Title: No Moore
Post by: Quirkafleeg on 26 September, 2002, 05:46:09 AM
Post by: Quirkafleeg on 26 September, 2002, 05:46:09 AM
Well not quite, but the bearded wonder has announced he is planning to go into ?semi-retirement?
Link: Read all about it
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: paulvonscott on 26 September, 2002, 06:10:33 AM
Post by: paulvonscott on 26 September, 2002, 06:10:33 AM
To the tune of Tenacious D's 'Dio has rocked...'
Alan Moore has written for a long long time, now it's time for him to pass the torch...
He has written of heroes and robots
He has soared on the planes of the astral
It's time to pass the torch, you're told old for comics, no more comics for you!
We're taking you to a home,
But we will write a future shock about you...
And we make sure that you're very well taken care of, you'll tell us the secrets that you've learned!
You're sauce will mix with ours and we'll make a good ghoulash baby!
Moo-oore, Time to go-er.
You must give your cape and sceptre to me!
... and a smaller one for Garth E.
Alan Moore has written for a long long time, now it's time for him to pass the torch...
He has written of heroes and robots
He has soared on the planes of the astral
It's time to pass the torch, you're told old for comics, no more comics for you!
We're taking you to a home,
But we will write a future shock about you...
And we make sure that you're very well taken care of, you'll tell us the secrets that you've learned!
You're sauce will mix with ours and we'll make a good ghoulash baby!
Moo-oore, Time to go-er.
You must give your cape and sceptre to me!
... and a smaller one for Garth E.
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: almighty mat on 26 September, 2002, 03:07:45 PM
Post by: almighty mat on 26 September, 2002, 03:07:45 PM
Wait a minute...
taking news of something 2000ad related and then writing a song about it-gasp-PVS is Scojo!
These damn secret identities are everywhere!
mat
taking news of something 2000ad related and then writing a song about it-gasp-PVS is Scojo!
These damn secret identities are everywhere!
mat
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: Trough on 26 September, 2002, 03:25:28 PM
Post by: Trough on 26 September, 2002, 03:25:28 PM
You're right - I am also EggOnLegs, Oddboy, DevonsDaddy and Alan Barnes!
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: Oddboy on 26 September, 2002, 03:26:32 PM
Post by: Oddboy on 26 September, 2002, 03:26:32 PM
Am I?
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: Trough on 26 September, 2002, 03:38:46 PM
Post by: Trough on 26 September, 2002, 03:38:46 PM
Yes I am, and I can see what I'm playing with, so put it away.
Trough, AKA Driver 8
Trough, AKA Driver 8
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: paulvonscott on 26 September, 2002, 03:40:32 PM
Post by: paulvonscott on 26 September, 2002, 03:40:32 PM
"taking news of something 2000ad related and then writing a song about it-gasp-PVS is Scojo!"
Well, we both write shit scripts.
Hey, it's a special occasion, and Tenacious D are the best band in the world, ever! Although if you don't know the song it's probably only marginally more boring than if you do.
Strangely enough in my dream last night I was interviewing Alan Moore. I appreciate this only makes me look even moore (ho-ho!) disturbing, but there you go. It's not something I make a habit off. I asked him what he wanted to his legacy to be and he just pondered.
That's a shame because otherwise I could have sent it in to Comics International and claimed that I interviewed him in some distant mystical dimension.
Then I'd be King of England and have many fair maids do my bidding, and a castle in the sky flown on the back of a dragon!
Mad? I should scojo.
Well, we both write shit scripts.
Hey, it's a special occasion, and Tenacious D are the best band in the world, ever! Although if you don't know the song it's probably only marginally more boring than if you do.
Strangely enough in my dream last night I was interviewing Alan Moore. I appreciate this only makes me look even moore (ho-ho!) disturbing, but there you go. It's not something I make a habit off. I asked him what he wanted to his legacy to be and he just pondered.
That's a shame because otherwise I could have sent it in to Comics International and claimed that I interviewed him in some distant mystical dimension.
Then I'd be King of England and have many fair maids do my bidding, and a castle in the sky flown on the back of a dragon!
Mad? I should scojo.
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: paulvonscott on 26 September, 2002, 04:07:06 PM
Post by: paulvonscott on 26 September, 2002, 04:07:06 PM
Oh gawd, self depreciating comments aside, that was a cheap shot at an easy target, sorry Scojo.
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: Wood on 26 September, 2002, 04:08:25 PM
Post by: Wood on 26 September, 2002, 04:08:25 PM
*think balloon (one for the scriptdroids members there)*
Ha! No one has yet surmised that I am in fact Mark Millar!
Ha! No one has yet surmised that I am in fact Mark Millar!
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: O Lucky Stevie! on 26 September, 2002, 04:57:52 PM
Post by: O Lucky Stevie! on 26 September, 2002, 04:57:52 PM
>Ha! No one has yet surmised that I am in fact Mark Millar!
no, you foul charlatan, i am!
i've wet my knickers!
steven l'enfant terrible
no, you foul charlatan, i am!
i've wet my knickers!
steven l'enfant terrible
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: Slippery PD on 26 September, 2002, 05:17:04 PM
Post by: Slippery PD on 26 September, 2002, 05:17:04 PM
**APPOLOGISES**
>Ha! No one has yet surmised that I am in fact Mark Millar!
I am and so is my wife :-)
-yer brian
>Ha! No one has yet surmised that I am in fact Mark Millar!
I am and so is my wife :-)
-yer brian
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: Mudcrab on 26 September, 2002, 06:53:41 PM
Post by: Mudcrab on 26 September, 2002, 06:53:41 PM
I'll back you up there PVS, superb version of the Dio song there. It is a superb album!
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: O Lucky Stevie! on 26 September, 2002, 07:01:08 PM
Post by: O Lucky Stevie! on 26 September, 2002, 07:01:08 PM
one would be mistaking for believing that he had, considering the irregularity of abc's publishing schedule...
i've wet my knickers!
steven l'enfant terrible
i've wet my knickers!
steven l'enfant terrible
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: petemaskreplica on 27 September, 2002, 07:33:33 AM
Post by: petemaskreplica on 27 September, 2002, 07:33:33 AM
Has anyone else read "Voice of the Fire"? the first chapter is, by his own admission, virually unreadable, but if you can get past that, it's actually rather good, IMO.
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: petemaskreplica on 27 September, 2002, 07:34:51 AM
Post by: petemaskreplica on 27 September, 2002, 07:34:51 AM
sorry, that should read "virtually".
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: almighty mat on 27 September, 2002, 02:57:26 PM
Post by: almighty mat on 27 September, 2002, 02:57:26 PM
++Ha! No one has yet surmised that I am in fact Mark Millar!++
I'm still waiting for you to try and grow one of those funny little moustaches.
mat
I'm still waiting for you to try and grow one of those funny little moustaches.
mat
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: paulvonscott on 27 September, 2002, 03:11:12 PM
Post by: paulvonscott on 27 September, 2002, 03:11:12 PM
Petemask, I must have started it about three times. Still can't read the bastard thing.
On the other hand I found my copy of the killing joke, looked at the first few panels and had to sit down and read the whole thing (admittedly short).
It would be nice if Alan Moore had a go at truly breaking into everyday consciousness with graphic novels.
On the other hand I found my copy of the killing joke, looked at the first few panels and had to sit down and read the whole thing (admittedly short).
It would be nice if Alan Moore had a go at truly breaking into everyday consciousness with graphic novels.
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: sigu on 27 September, 2002, 03:15:55 PM
Post by: sigu on 27 September, 2002, 03:15:55 PM
'Voice of the Fire' is one of my all-time favourite books. The infamous first chapter is worth persevering with, and the rest of the book gets easier as it goes on.
SiG
SiG
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: almighty mat on 27 September, 2002, 03:34:41 PM
Post by: almighty mat on 27 September, 2002, 03:34:41 PM
Ha! I too saw an Alan Moore novel and went Wow, and I too fell off at the first chapter, despite having recently done modules on the history of English language and dialect in Uni and found it both easy and interesting.
That Alan's too damn clever for our own good!
mat
That Alan's too damn clever for our own good!
mat
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: O Lucky Stevie! on 27 September, 2002, 04:31:19 PM
Post by: O Lucky Stevie! on 27 September, 2002, 04:31:19 PM
i'm with sigu on this. 'voice of the fire' is brilliant. perhaps you could first read stephen baxter's 'origin' (which uses similar technique for some of it's first-person narratives, albeit in a more accessible fashion) to put you in the mood for moore's opening chapter.
i've wet my knickers!
steven l'enfant terrible
i've wet my knickers!
steven l'enfant terrible
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: GordonR on 27 September, 2002, 04:50:31 PM
Post by: GordonR on 27 September, 2002, 04:50:31 PM
It's out of print now, so I wish I'd bought a copy when I had the opportunity years ago.
I believe it goes for ebay for fairly extortionate sums of money now.
I believe it goes for ebay for fairly extortionate sums of money now.
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: almighty mat on 27 September, 2002, 08:14:55 PM
Post by: almighty mat on 27 September, 2002, 08:14:55 PM
I picked up my copy in one of those discount book stores (like The Works, but with a different name) a couple of days before last Christmas. It may be worth a quick scour of any of these places in your vicinity, you never know your luck!
mat
mat
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: paulvonscott on 27 September, 2002, 09:00:09 PM
Post by: paulvonscott on 27 September, 2002, 09:00:09 PM
I often find myself in all sorts of second hand book shops, charity shops and boot fairs, and am happy to look out for it.
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: Art on 27 September, 2002, 09:09:15 PM
Post by: Art on 27 September, 2002, 09:09:15 PM
Will this be before or after he buys Marvel?
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: MOONSHINE on 28 September, 2002, 06:29:03 AM
Post by: MOONSHINE on 28 September, 2002, 06:29:03 AM
So why did Moore never continue the Ballad of Halo Jones, especially since hes been back in 2000AD in recent times writing pretty generic fantasy scripts?
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 28 September, 2002, 11:35:28 AM
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 28 September, 2002, 11:35:28 AM
Uh, assuming you're not joking, you're mixing up Alan Moore with Steve Moore.
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: MOONSHINE on 28 September, 2002, 04:20:41 PM
Post by: MOONSHINE on 28 September, 2002, 04:20:41 PM
Whoops!
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: Oddboy on 30 September, 2002, 04:27:45 PM
Post by: Oddboy on 30 September, 2002, 04:27:45 PM
Seeing as he fell out with 2000AD a long time ago - effectively with a 'different' 2000AD seeing as the financial controllers & the editorial team have both changed - perhaps he could be coaxed back to the UK for 2K after his holiday... (a change is as good as a break)Failing that - Rebellion: Give them the copyright licence to work on new Halo books to be published wherever Moore fancies.
Seeing as he & Gibson have already planned out much of the plot for future Halo books I think it might still work.
Meanwhile Amazon still haven't given me my Halo GN, delivery estimate has now changed to 15th October.
Seeing as he & Gibson have already planned out much of the plot for future Halo books I think it might still work.
Meanwhile Amazon still haven't given me my Halo GN, delivery estimate has now changed to 15th October.
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: Art on 30 September, 2002, 04:43:52 PM
Post by: Art on 30 September, 2002, 04:43:52 PM
I think Moores stated conditions for returning to 2000ad would be that they return rights for all their characters over to the original creators. This includes characters such as Dredd and Rogue Trooper.
I like to think of it as a more poetic way of saying "When hell freezes over".
I like to think of it as a more poetic way of saying "When hell freezes over".
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: Oddboy on 30 September, 2002, 05:17:16 PM
Post by: Oddboy on 30 September, 2002, 05:17:16 PM
Seems a bit overtly insane to me...
Does he have a similar boycot of DC & Marvel or is he just being a git?
But for Halo's sake, couldn't Rebellion give the old nutter the rights to future HJ books to be published elsewhere? Bet he still wouldn't do it even then grrrr! Good storyteller, but you still have to hate him sometimes.
Does he have a similar boycot of DC & Marvel or is he just being a git?
But for Halo's sake, couldn't Rebellion give the old nutter the rights to future HJ books to be published elsewhere? Bet he still wouldn't do it even then grrrr! Good storyteller, but you still have to hate him sometimes.
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 30 September, 2002, 05:21:42 PM
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 30 September, 2002, 05:21:42 PM
Something just struck me the other day, and perhaps it's a long recognised thing but I've only just started reading The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen the other day and thought how ironic is was that Moore complains about creator rights what he has has written a story who's main characters are all established Victorian literary characters. I also had a quick look at the front of the book and was surprised to not notice an acknowledgement to H.G. Welles et al.
ADE
ADE
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: John Caliber on 30 September, 2002, 07:39:12 PM
Post by: John Caliber on 30 September, 2002, 07:39:12 PM
'But for Halo's sake, couldn't Rebellion give the old nutter the rights to future HJ books to be published elsewhere?'
If only so I don't have to read the damned thing.
- TCC
If only so I don't have to read the damned thing.
- TCC
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: W. R. Logan on 01 October, 2002, 03:01:05 PM
Post by: W. R. Logan on 01 October, 2002, 03:01:05 PM
>Does he have a similar boycot of DC & Marvel or is he just being a git?
Hasn't Moore boycotted most publishers at some point or other, said he wouldn't work for DC again but has since, although he argues he writes for an imprint owned by DC.
Money talks the bearded one writes. Not sure if I want to see him in 2000 again. We may blame Bisley for the clones that followed, but do we blame Moore for the leather jacketed pony tailed readers who like comics to be some fantastic medium that they can spout on about.
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
Hasn't Moore boycotted most publishers at some point or other, said he wouldn't work for DC again but has since, although he argues he writes for an imprint owned by DC.
Money talks the bearded one writes. Not sure if I want to see him in 2000 again. We may blame Bisley for the clones that followed, but do we blame Moore for the leather jacketed pony tailed readers who like comics to be some fantastic medium that they can spout on about.
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: Art on 01 October, 2002, 04:16:21 PM
Post by: Art on 01 October, 2002, 04:16:21 PM
although he argues he writes for an imprint owned by DC.
Well, he writes for an imprint that was bought by DC after he agreed to write for them. Theres a distinction there.
Well, he writes for an imprint that was bought by DC after he agreed to write for them. Theres a distinction there.
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: Art on 01 October, 2002, 04:17:34 PM
Post by: Art on 01 October, 2002, 04:17:34 PM
But for Halo's sake, couldn't Rebellion give the old nutter the rights to future HJ books to be published elsewhere?
From the rumours about Rebellion and creators rights I'm hearing that doesn't even seem remotely plausible.
From the rumours about Rebellion and creators rights I'm hearing that doesn't even seem remotely plausible.
Title: Re: No Moore
Post by: Art on 01 October, 2002, 04:19:23 PM
Post by: Art on 01 October, 2002, 04:19:23 PM
Something just struck me the other day, and perhaps it's a long recognised thing but I've only just started reading The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen the other day and thought how ironic is was that Moore complains about creator rights what he has has written a story who's main characters are all established Victorian literary characters. I also had a quick look at the front of the book and was surprised to not notice an acknowledgement to H.G. Welles et al.
Yeah, but they're all dead. So screw 'em. Screw the bloated corpse of Disney too.
Yeah, but they're all dead. So screw 'em. Screw the bloated corpse of Disney too.