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Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
« Reply #15 on: 19 September, 2016, 11:14:41 pm »
Silvio Astarita


"Rave Macbeth is a loose adaptation of the Shakespeare play "MacBeth", except it's set in the world of the dance rave culture"

Cheers for that, Joséf.



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Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
« Reply #16 on: 19 September, 2016, 11:25:08 pm »
Silvio Astarita


"Rave Macbeth is a loose adaptation of the Shakespeare play "MacBeth", except it's set in the world of the dance rave culture"

Cheers for that, Joséf.

Is there some Shakespearean sub genre I was hitherto aware of?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Midsummer_Night%27s_Rave


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Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
« Reply #17 on: 19 September, 2016, 11:29:15 pm »
Some details about the 2 Canadian writers and where the Shoreline deal was headed from the book Comic Book Movies by David Hughes -






I think Rebellion were wise to hold out for something closer to home.






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Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
« Reply #18 on: 19 September, 2016, 11:44:49 pm »
The early synopses for the two films (you can see what mistakes were being repeated) -

JUDGE DREDD: DREDD RECKONING
In Pre-Production

Mega-City One, a vast American sprawl in the year 2070, is a city spiraling out of control and drowning in corruption. In the skies, on the streets and in the illegal mutant ghettoes of the ancient Under-City below ground, crime fades into the shadows of a forgotten world.

Policed by "the Judges," a breed of man genetically developed to impose the law and keep the peace, Judge Dredd is the toughest, meanest, and straightest Mega-city cop who operates as instant judge, jury and executioner. Cloned form the original Chief Judge's DNA, Judge Dredd is the definitive lawman. Dedicated to justice, his determination knows no limits. On his word alone any law-breaking citizen can be sentenced to twenty years in the Time Stretcher or a lifetime in the bleak penal colony of Titan.

Yet, after a lifetime on the streets, Judge Dredd, the grand man of the Justice Department, has started to lose faith in the system, which created him. The never-ending corruption, lawless inhabitants and immoral lifestyle are taking their toll. Fearing the Justice Department cannot afford to lose its most legendary figurehead, Chief Judge Silver reads Dredd's frustration and takes action. Ordering a 24-hour news blackout Silver sets Dredd up as the fall guy and has him sentenced to 20 years of solitary confinement in Titan.

Meanwhile, Cadet Judge Kraken, a clone taken from the same DNA as Dredd and every bit the equal of Dredd, is secretly ordered to take on Dredd's identity. As far as the citizens are to know, there will still be a Judge Dredd on the streets of Mega-City One.

Believing Judge Dredd to be guilty and yet filled with unrequited love for him. Dredd's long time female partner Judge Hershey wants to personally deliver Dredd to Titan. Hershey deports Dredd to a strange, alien world where colonists from earth scrape out a meager existence.

As the spaceship lands, a saboteur strikes on board and the ship is destroyed. Leaving Titan is now harder than ever and Titan is not an easy place to live. But if anyone can survive the hostile unchartered area known as the Wilderlands, it is Judge Dredd.

Meanwhile Kraken, under the guise of Judge Dredd, has been enjoying the benefits of corruption in the shady Under-City community. Using the ghettoes as a front for Umpty (illegal, addictive candy) factors and the mutants as free labour, Kraken is severely damaging Dredd's perfect reputation.

One hundred days later, still in the Wilderlands, Dredd and Hershey successfully set up small fighting units to defeat the countless attacks from sinister forces. Mending his relationship with Hershey, Dredd now finds a way for them to flee. Barely escaping with their lives, they return to Mega-City One where Dredd must now clean up the corrupt city and quickly face his most lethal foe. Himself.


Film Credits TBA



JUDGE DREDD: POSSESSION

In Pre-Production

Crushing crime in Mega-City One is Judge Dredd's obsession. As Judge, jury and executioner, Judge Dredd is empowered to dispense instant justice and the city is now running more successfully than ever before. But Dredd can't relax. Rumors are spreading that the sinister Judge Death has penetrated into Mega-City One.

Judge Death soon let's Dredd know of his demonic mission. He wants to destroy the illegal mutant ghettoes of the ancient Under-City. Declaring all life is a crime, the supernatural Death is hell-bent on destruction, believing that the supernatural life is more wondrous.

Judge Cassandra Anderson, a Psi Judge with heightened psychic awareness and powers, teams up with Dredd to drive Judge Death from Mega-City One. Together they work with the cities scientists to create teletronic security devices that create impenetrable security cells around their homes.

In an unusual battle, Dredd tracks down Death, determined to destroy him. But as Judge Death's life is taken from him, he succeeds in getting his evil spirit to possess Cassandra. An internal battle grips her as she is torn between wreaking havoc and upholding the law.

Never knowing whether Cassandra is a friend or foe, Dredd is faced with the dilemma of terminating his companion. Ready to do the deed, he is stopped at the last moment by Judge Silver who decides to encase Cassandra in a transparent prison, not living, not dead, a glass tomb from which neither she nor Judge Death's evil spirit can escape.

As Dredd navigates the prison he learns that Cassandra is carrying a child. Her punishment seems unjust. Doing the unspeakable, Dredd defies the Judges and breaks the law by freeing Cassandra from suspended animation.

Now on the run, he and Cassandra escape into the desert of the Cursed Earth. Not only is Dredd battling the insanity of what he has done, but also he now has to contend with the sinister supernatural entities of the scorched earth.

When Judge Death releases himself from Cassandra's body and tries to take possession of Judge Dredd, Dredd knows he has few options left. The very future of Mega-City is uncertain. Can our hero save himself and annihilate Judge Death once and for all?

Film Credits TBA





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Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
« Reply #19 on: 19 September, 2016, 11:49:38 pm »
It would be interesting to read the various drafts that came before Garland's take on the character.

I wonder if they were ever leaked.

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Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
« Reply #20 on: 19 September, 2016, 11:53:41 pm »
Those 1989 and 1993 Dredd scripts sure make interesting reading!

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Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
« Reply #21 on: 20 September, 2016, 12:01:00 am »
These are the 2 updated synopses - most likely related to the later scripts written by Micheal Bafaro & Christopher Donaldson -


JUDGE DREDD: DREDD RECKONING

In Pre-Production

After the Atomic War, the formation of the three Mega-City metropolises has created the need for a superior form of law enforcement: Judges. Empowered to immediately seize, judge, and execute any sentence, they are the only police force remaining within nine years of their initiation. By the year 2087, advances in cloning technology have made possible the introduction of a new generation of Judges, faster, smarter, meaner. One of the first is known as Judge Dredd . . .
Dredd is trained by the aging but ever-sharp Judge Callahan. The first day Dredd sees action, Callahan naturally accompanies him. Tragically, Dredd fails to save his mentor from falling to his doom as they dangle over the city and are riddled with bullets from a team of hovercrafts led by Max Voltek, head of a group of Mega-City assassins.

Eighteen years pass. Haunting the city's streets is the Phantom, a fearsome beast - half animal half mechanical. Dredd now is the most well-known--and feared--of the Judges, notorious for his merciless interpretation of the law. In another confrontation involving Max Voltek, one of Dredd's partners, the stunning Judge Hershey, is left comatose.

Meanwhile, the Senior Chief Judges of Mega-City debate the repressive nature of the existing law system. With a majority vote, Grand Chancellor Bullock vows to moderate the severity of the Judges' enforcement. Dredd tracks down the Phantom and accuses Bullock of being responsible for the Phantom's presence. Dredd in turn is arrested and stripped of his status as a Judge.

Faced with his demotion and the collusion of a high-ranking Chief Judge and the Phantom, Dredd must take matters into his own hands and even form an unlikely alliance with Max Voltek. Acting within the Law to which he is still faithful, will Dredd's determination for justice from outside the Justice Depermant be enough to nullify corruption of the vilest order from within?

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JUDGE DREDD: POSSESSION

In Pre-Production

Flashback: 2107, Mega-City One: A vast, futuristic metropolis in the first stages of mass decay, its crime-riddled streets patrolled by Judges, law enforcement authorized not only to arrest but to act as on-the-spot jury and, if necessary, executioner. To combat the depletion of healthy air, water, and food, a brilliant Mega-City professor has developed the Ripper, a device designed to rip a hole in time and space via a mysterious orb, making accessible uncontaminated natural resources from the past. Disastrously, a self-fashioned prophet, Phobia, interferes with the Ripper's first audition. Judge Dredd and his psychic partner Judge Anderson unsuccessfully attempt to subdue Phobia, instead accidentally killing the professor (in front of the professor's young son, Jackman), and loosing the orb into Phobia's possession.

The present, 17 Years Later: The city's environmental deterioration has accelerated. A comet can be seen in the night's sky, descending directly toward the planet. Worse, an alarming number of psychics have been mysteriously kidnapped. An otherwise routine seizure by Dredd and Anderson leads them again to Phobia, only this time she, with the help of the abducted psychics, has summoned the seemingly-invincible Judge DEATH, who considers life itself inherently criminal and is hell-bent on genocide of the human race.
Elsewhere, a bitter Jackman, now twenty-five, busies himself with hacking bank accounts until he discovers that the lost orb has again been activated. His curiosity results in him being pursued by Dredd out into the Cursed Earth, an irradiated desert zone outside Mega City One, occupied by lawless social outcasts, mutants, and worse. Dredd and Jackman are forced to co-operate when they attacked by Cursed Earth denizens, Phobia, and finally an army of the undead, led by two evil Dark Judges: Judge Fire and Judge Mortis.

Back in the heart of the city, Death's spirit has cunningly taken over the drugged body of Anderson, her superior psychic abilities uniting with his, rendering him ever more powerful. Dredd and Jackman return in a battle-scarred humvee, scarcely intact after warding off Fire and Mortis. With hordes of zombies at Death's command threatening to invade the city, Dredd manages to trap Death's spirit within a plastic seal, concomitantly leaving Anderson to suffocate. Suddenly Phobia appears, slashing the encasement to release Death from his synthetic prison.

Dredd and Jackman must now face a terrifying prospect: the only way to permanently annihilate Judge Death and his minions is to follow him into the Dead World through a vortex opened up by the orb. Will Dredd find a way to out-duel Death in his very element? And will Mega-City One survive even another night? Judge Dredd's resilience in the face of the ultimate supernatural evil is the world's last hope.






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Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
« Reply #22 on: 20 September, 2016, 12:06:02 am »
The early synopses for the two films (you can see what mistakes were being repeated) -





Uhgg, that Dredd Reckoning synopsis sounds almost like a rerun of the Stallone movie!


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Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
« Reply #23 on: 20 September, 2016, 12:09:42 am »
We should definitely be grateful for the 2012 Dredd movie we got, based upon the evidence!

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Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
« Reply #24 on: 20 September, 2016, 10:30:28 am »
On the initial ones, they sound like something from he-who-shall-not-be-named. Also, Silver apparently sets up Dredd and yet is still Chief in the sequel? O… K…

The rewrites seem better, but the first movie still has that major problem that afflicted Stallone's film: if Dredd is supposed to be a stern upholder of the law, having him stripped of his title before the audience fully understands who he is erodes the entire premise. If Dredd was a TV show and in the last episode, he was no longer a Judge, due to some kind of corruption, that might work. But after half an hour of him breaking heads? Not so much.

Possession also doesn't really work, overcomplicating the original Death strip but without really adding anything. (If you wanted to do a straight take on a Dredd strip with Death, use the basis for the original and then all four of the buggers coming back for the final act.)

One of the things Garland got bang-on was having a sense of focus. Dredd may have this amazing box of toys, but they've been gradually drip-fed to an audience over decades. You don't need to cram them all into a single movie – just take some of what makes Dredd Dredd and put that on the screen. People complained that Garland's take wasn't funny enough, but plenty of Dredd is pretty grim and there was some black humour in the manner Dredd went about his business ("Yeah.") and in the background (such as the mall clean-up). But then that's what you get when you hire a professional who also happens to click with the source material.

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Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
« Reply #25 on: 20 September, 2016, 01:41:35 pm »
Dredd is funny, in the blackest sense, "Drug bust.....perps we're uncooperative."
"Interesting", which got a laugh at every screening I went to see.

It just wasn't Rob Schneide funny, thank fuck!!!!!!

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Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
« Reply #26 on: 20 September, 2016, 01:55:10 pm »
*Schneider.

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Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
« Reply #27 on: 20 September, 2016, 04:40:08 pm »
The 'Figure a Bullet would do that for you" was a genuine belly laugh in the theater and is still one of my favorite lines in the movie.

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Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
« Reply #28 on: 20 September, 2016, 05:16:17 pm »
The 'Figure a Bullet would do that for you" was a genuine belly laugh in the theater and is still one of my favorite lines in the movie.

Yeah, and that one!  :)

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Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
« Reply #29 on: 20 September, 2016, 07:30:19 pm »
The lift scene where Anderson reports what Kay is thinking is genuinely hilarious, a classic of understated humour.