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Re: The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: THE TEMPEST
« Reply #15 on: 23 July, 2017, 09:51:50 am »
Very much looking forward to this one!

I recognise Mina and Orlando on the preview pic. Who's the third gal?

Emma Peel (of Avengers fame).

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Re: The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: THE TEMPEST
« Reply #16 on: 23 July, 2017, 11:24:17 am »
Very much looking forward to this one!

I recognise Mina and Orlando on the preview pic. Who's the third gal?

Emma Peel (of Avengers fame).

thanks! "emma night".  i remembered her being old. perhaps visiting the pool of youth then :)

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Re: The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: THE TEMPEST
« Reply #17 on: 23 July, 2017, 11:59:18 am »
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It's set in the year 3000, so she's Emma Peel's great-great-great granddaughter. In the Bustedverse we live underwater, so the Nemo clan should do well.

Interesting that Moore figures the genre fiction of the present day as dominated by superhero comics*, rather than bigger selling YA novels or - given his interest in porn - EL James.

* Those Kev O'Neill superheroes are (understandably) redolent of Marshal Law. The next series of Defoe looks like it's going to be Marshal Law by another name. Marshal Law seems sort of zeitgeist-y and more relevant than ever... maybe Tharg should give Mills and O'Neill a ton of cash to produce new Marshal Law material (and get the back catalogue into print).

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Re: The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: THE TEMPEST
« Reply #18 on: 23 July, 2017, 12:22:56 pm »
The ML version of Pat's discussions about Hollywood and the CIA/Military involvement?

Snuff movies on an MCU scale, never mind crowd sims and CGI, just find some city overseas and blow the shit out of it, with real superheroes in the middle of it.

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« Reply #19 on: 23 July, 2017, 01:31:37 pm »
.Interesting that Moore figures the genre fiction of the present day as dominated by superhero comics*, rather than bigger selling YA novels or - given his interest in porn - EL James.

With the incorporation of fictional and aesthetic elements of TV shows and films, Moore has taken LOEG beyond just the literary – in the literal sense of being confined to books – so I don't think he considers literary fiction to be dominated by superhero comics but does think the fictional gestalt is dominated by superhero films, and what they represent.

* Those Kev O'Neill superheroes are (understandably) redolent of Marshal Law. The next series of Defoe looks like it's going to be Marshal Law by another name. Marshal Law seems sort of zeitgeist-y and more relevant than ever... maybe Tharg should give Mills and O'Neill a ton of cash to produce new Marshal Law material (and get the back catalogue into print).

I believe they're thinking about it but it might be a while before The Tempest is completely finished. Zack Snyder's version of Bruce Wayne/Batman seems an even closer fit to Pat Mills' analogue, Scott Brennan/Private Eye
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Re: The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: THE TEMPEST
« Reply #20 on: 23 July, 2017, 04:01:13 pm »
I bought the Superheroes on the promo art are the ones we've seen before, the team Mina was a member of in the 60s? The Tempest takes place across three different time periods.
« Last Edit: 23 July, 2017, 04:05:08 pm by The Adventurer »

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Re: The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: THE TEMPEST
« Reply #21 on: 23 July, 2017, 06:39:24 pm »
The Tempest takes place across three different time periods.

I was making a crap joke about a novelty song that doesn't translate across cultures. Century ended with Emma headed for a dip in the pool, so her appearance isn't a guide to the time period depicted above.

And yes, Captain Underpants and the gang are the League Of Marvels. Orlando thinks Mina only managed them, but both of the girls in the group portrait sport costumes that cover their necks completely.

JOE SOUP: yeah, but Moore didn't choose Mr Tumble as the Antichrist, and it wasn't Peppa Pig who parted the heavens and turned him into pavement art. Whatever point Moore was making in the modern era books was about 'culture' in general*, but his solution seemed to be old books.


* Moore basically admits, through Orlando, he isn't sure whether he wants to argue that modern culture's terrible because it reflects the times we live in or vice versa. The only specific criticism he offers of Rowling's franchise is that it's bland and a retreat from reality, all of which I suppose applies equally to Disney, Warner, and their works.

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« Reply #22 on: 24 July, 2017, 12:17:58 am »
JOE SOUP: yeah, but Moore didn't choose Mr Tumble as the Antichrist, and it wasn't Peppa Pig who parted the heavens and turned him into pavement art. Whatever point Moore was making in the modern era books was about 'culture' in general*, but his solution seemed to be old books.


Endless film and TV franchises created from the pocket-universes of superhero comics are the dominant genre narratives; more than they were in Moore's heyday in comics and arguably to a far greater extent than YA novels and Twilight fan-fiction, so I presume the idea of their importance in LOEG Vol. IV is driven more by their larger cultural position than the popular 'literature' of today – although I wouldn't be surprised if a cyphered Christian Grey and Bella Swan turn-up shagging. Alan Moore might find the literary incestuousness of such and idea too hard to resist.

I'm not presupposing superheroes occupy the same position in The Tempest as Harry Potter does in Century but it's likely superheroes are part of the zeitgeist of the present era just as rockstars like Turner and his Purple Orchestra were in the 1960's LOEG.

A clue might be at the end of the synopsis: "A magnificent celebration of everything comics were, are and could be...". Since LOEG is primarily a comic, it's possible Moore is making yet another meta-statement on the state of the medium, which at least in Western publications, is still dominated by men in spandex.

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Re: The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: THE TEMPEST
« Reply #23 on: 24 July, 2017, 09:36:21 am »
" maybe Tharg should give Mills and O'Neill a ton of cash to produce new Marshal Law material (and get the back catalogue into print)."

DC own the publishing rights at the moment, DC wanted a new Marshal Law story according to Pat Mills where he teamed up with a certain billionaire superhero, but was not allowed to kick his ass

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« Reply #24 on: 24 July, 2017, 01:20:31 pm »
maybe Tharg should give Mills and O'Neill a ton of cash to produce new Marshal Law material (and get the back catalogue into print).

DC own the publishing rights at the moment, DC wanted a new Marshal Law story according to Pat Mills where he teamed up with a certain billionaire superhero, but was not allowed to kick his ass

Weird. Thanks for the info.



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Re: The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: THE TEMPEST
« Reply #25 on: 24 July, 2017, 01:25:06 pm »
" maybe Tharg should give Mills and O'Neill a ton of cash to produce new Marshal Law material (and get the back catalogue into print)."

DC own the publishing rights at the moment, DC wanted a new Marshal Law story according to Pat Mills where he teamed up with a certain billionaire superhero, but was not allowed to kick his ass

Come now, this is foolish talk. Everyone knows Batman would hand the Marshal his barbed-wire pants.

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Re: The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: THE TEMPEST
« Reply #26 on: 24 July, 2017, 02:39:12 pm »
" maybe Tharg should give Mills and O'Neill a ton of cash to produce new Marshal Law material (and get the back catalogue into print)."

DC own the publishing rights at the moment, DC wanted a new Marshal Law story according to Pat Mills where he teamed up with a certain billionaire superhero, but was not allowed to kick his ass


Really?  How did they manage that?  Seeing as ML has been published by Marvel, Dark Horse, Apocalypse (Toxic!) and Image, but never by DC.  I always thought it was creator owned, so it would be in Pat and Kev's hands.  Though Rebellion are mainly interested in publishing things they own IP for (hence buying Scarlet Traces before reprinting and continuing).

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Re: The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: THE TEMPEST
« Reply #27 on: 24 July, 2017, 02:40:18 pm »
" maybe Tharg should give Mills and O'Neill a ton of cash to produce new Marshal Law material (and get the back catalogue into print)."

DC own the publishing rights at the moment, DC wanted a new Marshal Law story according to Pat Mills where he teamed up with a certain billionaire superhero, but was not allowed to kick his ass


Really?  How did they manage that?  Seeing as ML has been published by Marvel, Dark Horse, Apocalypse (Toxic!) and Image, but never by DC.  I always thought it was creator owned, so it would be in Pat and Kev's hands.  Though Rebellion are mainly interested in publishing things they own IP for (hence buying Scarlet Traces before reprinting and continuing).

p.s. you're not thinking of Metalzoic, are you?

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Re: The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: THE TEMPEST
« Reply #28 on: 24 July, 2017, 02:48:00 pm »
DC published the recent-ish (2013) Marshal Law hardback collection that a load of us picked up for peanuts* due to an Amazon glitch.


*(Now priced at £44.99  :-\)

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Re: The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: THE TEMPEST
« Reply #29 on: 24 July, 2017, 03:57:33 pm »
DC own the publishing rights (to Marshal Law) at the moment ...

Really?  How did they manage that?  Seeing as ML has been published by Marvel, Dark Horse, Apocalypse (Toxic!) and Image, but never by DC.  I always thought it was creator owned ...

DC published the recent-ish (2013) Marshal Law hardback collection ...


...  and so, presumably, have some kind of limited period of influence over what else Mills and O'Neill do with their property. Bummer.