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General / Re: Armageddon: The origins that wasn't Origins
« on: 24 June, 2018, 04:18:58 pm »
There were all sorts of fan theories about Armageddon, like the psychic girl – Lori LeMayne – being Anderson's ancestor – much like the one with Al Bestardi being Dredd's.

General / Re: Armageddon: The origins that wasn't Origins
« on: 24 June, 2018, 02:49:06 pm »

We have to go back...into the origins of the forum.


Film & TV / Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
« on: 22 June, 2018, 12:47:32 am »

Remember Supershadow? It's Supershadow all the way down now.

The hunkiest of insiders.

Film & TV / Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
« on: 22 June, 2018, 12:03:14 am »
They could do all sorts of stuff with an Obi Wan movie. Tattooine Western seems what people are after but he didn't have to spend the whole time there.

Just a pity McGregor is such a godawful actor.

I doubt the film is permanently on-hold but I can take or leave a Kenobi film; I'd watch it like any other SW film, and I'm sure it could be good, even great, but another outing with Ewan McGregor trying hard to be Alec Guinness didn't work too well in three Prequels, nevermind a fourth.

I think all spin-offs should be made for the future streaming service since that is the real arena where the big corporation game is being played with Disney seeking domnance over Netflix and why they're so set on buying 21CFOX.

Film & TV / Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
« on: 21 June, 2018, 04:45:34 pm »
I pray Disney calls their bluff. Never know, it could end up being the dark-side equivalent of Our RoboCop Remake

Film & TV / Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
« on: 21 June, 2018, 04:15:12 pm »
I can only assume this is a parody account; it's funny if it is...actually it's still funny if it's serious:



This is a campaign to provide Disney an opportunity to course correct with the Star Wars franchise.  The fans are completely divided and the core goal of Star Wars has been abandoned.  The goal is to not make one half of the fandom happy over the other, it is to make a film that the fandom in general as a whole enjoys.   
The hero archetype's of the original films is what made these so great, it made characters that everyone could relate to regardless of their background and beliefs.  No longer having this core element along with poor storytelling, has made the franchise divisive and in disarray.
The producers behind this have pledged to cover the budget, but you can pledge an amount to have your voice heard.  You DO NOT have to put financial or personal information in, just an email address and a pledge.


Film & TV / Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
« on: 21 June, 2018, 03:50:23 pm »
Of course that's probably what you meant anyway, SIP.

Expectations on China are huge for Western blockbusters; for one to fail in that market is a big financial gap.

Film & TV / Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
« on: 21 June, 2018, 03:37:04 pm »
That's an excellent point Joe and not one that I had considered. I feel like maybe we'll need to look back at this in 10 years time to see what the whole picture actually was.

There's no doubt it's a more complex picture now with 3-4 generations of fans with differing opinions on what Star Wars should/should not be. I doubt I represent much of a median: I like the Originals, the Prequel cartoons, the Sequels/spin-offs – and The Holiday Special.

I think the China thing is a red herring, not being popular in China certainly didn't impact on the box office of every other star wars film.

It's no red-herring: before 2015, Star Wars in China never really had a box-office (The Phantom Menace earned $4,100,273) and outside of the bootleg video market, the originals weren't seen for donkey's years.

Cue DM xenophobic headline: A long time afterwards, in a country far, far away… China shows Star Wars in cinemas for the first time nearly four decades after the rest of the world

When the Chinese government relaxed and allowed more foreign films to be released, The Force Awakens was the first time for the general audience in China to become familiar with Star Wars – which is why it had such a good turn-out, but also why they didn't return in such large numbers with each successive film: they realised didn't really like Star Wars. They don't have the cultural attachments to Luke, Han & Leia we do.

Film & TV / Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
« on: 21 June, 2018, 01:28:32 pm »
The implication would be, along with the subsequent blu ray sales...

It's an incomplete picture, though. Blu-Ray sales were 56% down from The Force Awakens –in the US– but that is not an accurate picture in itself since general sales of all physical discs have dropped approx. 10% every year since 2015 because of the rise in subscription streaming and digital purchase, so unless you get the worldwide total including all platforms, it's hard to know what the actual 'sales' drop-off is.

Film & TV / Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
« on: 21 June, 2018, 01:00:34 pm »
Darth Maul has 2 lines of dialogue in The Phantom Menace or 31 words.

Tatooine is sparsely populated. If the homing trace is correct, I will find them quickly, Master.
At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi. At last, we will have revenge.

Since Witwer was the one charged with turning him into an actual personality and the one fans would most identify the character with, bringing Serafinowitz back makes less sense. I found McGregor’s Kenobi impression much worse - but the best Kenobi outside the original is in Rebels: https://youtube.com/watch?v=no4SxdIIDBE

Film & TV / Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
« on: 21 June, 2018, 03:38:41 am »
Report: The Star Wars Story movies are being put on hold:


In other words: films that were never announced by Lucasfilm are still in development.

Film & TV / Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
« on: 21 June, 2018, 12:35:51 am »
But similarly they didn't go and make Fantasia 2, John Carter 2....etc.

None of those ever made any money and Disney wrote off the JC debt almost immediately. Star Wars has made way more for them than it has ever lost so the death knell of the franchise being rung in some quarters is greatly exaggerated because of the financial loss of a troubled non-sequel spin-off.

Solo was a contractual obligation for Lucasfilm since Lawrence Kasdan only agreed to sign-on to Force Awakens if he got to make Solo - after he and Lucas hatched the spin-off idea previous to the Disney buy-out. The choice of the next spin-off after Rogue One may have been different otherwise. The buzz before Solo was bad, middling or non-existent on the fan periphery, so it never really penetrated into the world of the norms.

Previously noted, as drop-offs go, The Last Jedi is not a shocker in Star Wars financial history and the fall in percentage points is slightly less than Attack of the Clones.

Prog / Re: Prog 2086 - Bet on Red!
« on: 19 June, 2018, 04:51:16 pm »

Thing is, I’d like to see Frank Miller draw an entire story in that style.

Film & TV / Re: The Trailer Thread
« on: 18 June, 2018, 11:09:08 am »
Not a bad idea but it looks like someone ‘remade’ Robert Downey Snr’s PUTNEY SWOPE


In an alternate present-day version of Oakland, telemarketer Cassius Green discovers a magical key to professional success, propelling him into a macabre universe.

Games / Re: A Couple of Ideas for Rebellion
« on: 16 June, 2018, 07:57:18 pm »
Where does this pessimistic assumption come from? The absence of an ambitious Dredd game isn't some kind of verification of anything.

Possibly the absence of that level of capital.

The Witcher 3, he notes, cost well over $85 million in the end (PLN 300 million), although he also emphasizes that only $25 million (PLN 90 million) were direct production costs, with other costs showing up as indirect expenses; CyberPunk is expected to be more expensive.


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