I'm a little out of touch . It's been a while since I drew a Dredd. About a decade or so by my reckoning.
What's the current Lawgiver model? Photo reff would be appreciated.
Thanks kindly
Simon Fraser.
There's a bit of a move amongst art droids to adopt the Carlos version, which I absolutely wouldn't discourage you from doing. Are you doing a new Dredd, then, Simon? Fucking fantastic if you are!
LINK (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=45334.msg987354#msg987354)
The original Carlos version? If so then I'm all for it.
Si.
The Carlosgiver is the only way to go.
The link in Jim's link (https://www.planetreplicas.com/product-page/carlos-ezquerra-s-lawgiver) has images of the 3D model from every angle, but here's how fellow droids have used it in recent strips:
Chris Weston (prog 2141):
(https://i.imgur.com/Xq0ToA2.jpg?2)
Chris Weston (prog 2142):
(https://i.imgur.com/ldJa26F.png?2)
Staz Johnson (prog 2136):
(https://i.imgur.com/lBqIVyf.jpg?2)
I can live without the gold eagle detail, but opinions are opinions.
Nice one.
This is very good news. Fraser Dredds are lamentably few in number but always perfectly formed.
(https://i.imgur.com/j5plink.jpg)
Quote from: Simon Fraser on 09 August, 2019, 06:18:48 PM
I'm a little out of touch . It's been a while since I drew a Dredd. About a decade or so by my reckoning.
What's the current Lawgiver model? Photo reff would be appreciated.
Thanks kindly
Simon Fraser.
Hi Simon,
I have the 3D model, so if you want any particular ref - just give me a shout.
Cheers
Steve
Thanks Steve. I haven't quite work out how to integrate 3D into my drawing process yet...or whether I want to. Seems like a slippery slope! However the Carlos Lawgiver is so deeply ingrained into me that I can draw it from childhood memory.
Si.
Carlos' more recent version, adopted of late by Chris Weston and Staz Johnson and shown above, is really just a satisfyingly chunky version of the classic.
Quote from: Simon Fraser on 13 August, 2019, 12:37:08 AM
Thanks Steve. I haven't quite work out how to integrate 3D into my drawing process yet...or whether I want to. Seems like a slippery slope! However the Carlos Lawgiver is so deeply ingrained into me that I can draw it from childhood memory.
Si.
No worries, yeah like Jim said, it's similar to the original but with a fatter muzzle, more like the silencer version in the Apocalypse War.
The dial on the side has been simplified I think, it's more like a safety now, and there's an indicator on the other side.
Yeah, don't draw the original design, or readers will mistake that for the kind of visual cues - a rounded helmet and stars on the shoulderpad - that are meant to communicate a strip is set in the past.
Heh, that Frank: a visual cue that was, I believe, first put to that very purpose by some scribbler called Simon Fraser...
(https://i.imgur.com/0n4JDvy.png?2)
MacNeil gave Rico stars on the shoulderpad* back when Fraser was drawing Lux & Alby, but I think Fraser was the first ink monkey to show us his rounded helmet.
Debate me!
* .. and a Carlos badge and rounded shoulderpad, too. Megazine 2.44, December 1993
Everyone knows Megs and Specials don't count...
:-[
Quote from: Frank on 13 August, 2019, 07:37:02 PM
I think Fraser was the first ink monkey to show us his rounded helmet.
I believe the forum's had this conversation before and, whilst I also thought it was Fraser, it turned out to be Ron Smith in 'A Case for Treatment'.
(https://i.imgur.com/t3pIy0p.png)
Quote from: TordelBack on 13 August, 2019, 07:39:55 PM
Everyone knows Megs and Specials don't count...
It's A Dreddful Life wasn't Wagner* either. Well done, Everyone Else, for being more clever than us.
* Robbie Morrison (https://i.imgur.com/fhmoqm3.png) and Jim Alexander, which made this as Scottish a Dredd as there'd been since the days of TB Grover and Cam Kennedy
Yea, I believe that I was the first to do that in 'Blood Cadets' back in Prog 1186.
Si.
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Guess I should have refreshed the page before replying. I didn't know Ron Smith had done it before me. Good old Ron was always my fave Dredd artist.
Also "Ink Monkey" ?! We're not Droids anymore? Is that a promotion?
I'm very old. Should be Wacom Monkey.
Damn you Greg!
May I wriggle a bit and suggest thst Simon was the first to apply the technique to a new story set in the 'past', rather than a reworking of an existing story (Cursed Earth) or indeed panel (Return of Rico)?
But yeah, being beaten to it by Ron Smith (and Colin!) is no disgrace at all.
is it tooo early to ask about Lilly MacKenzie ? :-X