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Spoilers => Megazine => Topic started by: roystead on 22 October, 2002, 11:16:06 PM

Title: Megazine 4.17
Post by: roystead on 22 October, 2002, 11:16:06 PM
Just read it. Astounding. Not a foot put wrong, cover to cover. Art, writing (dialog and scripting) all superb. Astonished. Can't talk more - must lie down...

Roy

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By the way - was that really TinTin?
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: Matt on 23 October, 2002, 12:05:11 AM
Megazine is riding a high at the moment. I don't think it has ever been as consistantly good as it is now.
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: Slippery PD on 23 October, 2002, 12:07:27 AM
Agree totally and doesnt Cinnebar answer questions about rogues **ahem** nads???

Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: Marbles on 23 October, 2002, 12:22:24 AM
What was that real 'Durham Red ' photo at the end of the Meg all about?- in my wildest fanboy fantasies I'm thinking of a DR photo story...
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: Matt on 23 October, 2002, 12:35:23 AM
Hope next months issue comes with a free bagged pack of pocket hankies if that photo is anything to go by.
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: McNulty on 23 October, 2002, 02:07:36 AM
You guys are disgusting :}

Anyway, I realy enjoyed the Durham Red story that featured another old vampire story in 2000AD, The Fiends of the Eastern Front. It was great to see both of these creations of Ezquerra drawn by the great man once more.

Link: The A-Z of Cal-Hab

Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: Mangamax on 23 October, 2002, 02:50:26 AM
I'll second a Durham photo strip - just as long as its not as dire as that Nemisis vs Torquemada one - remember that?
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: judge dreddd on 24 October, 2002, 01:46:39 AM
Perfect issue and they published my email...oo.. postcards on their way.

Email saying they are desperate and they put it opposite a pic of breasts..

mmm

glad someone else picked up on the vampire soldiers, i was sure i had seen em somewhere else before.
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: HiEx on 28 October, 2002, 05:00:41 PM
4.17 was good, but not perfect, not by a long shot.

Bendatti Vendetta - Thank grud this is ending next month. Who are these people? More to the point, who cares? This story has had zero character development. I don't know who the characters are and I don't care. I'm not a big fan of modern day thrillers, Button Man being the exception due to the bloddy fantastic writing and art, but sorry, the writting in Bendatti is just dull and uninteresting. And another thing, the shooting down of the AH-64 in this months episode is highly unrealistic. The cockpit glasss of an AH-64 Aphach attack helicopter is armoured to withstand multiple strikes from a 12.7mm calibre heavy machine gun. You would need much more than an MP5 sub-machine gun firing the relatively puny 9x19mm round to penetrate it.

Durham Red - The Ezquerra Durham Red /Fiends story was sheer bloody genius, although it could have been a bit longer.

Dredd - Okay, but nothing special.

Rogue - Good.

Crimson Traces. Fan-bloody-tastic, but why is it ending so soon? Let's have more of this please.

HiEx



Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: Trout on 28 October, 2002, 08:09:57 PM
"Bendatti Vendetta - Thank grud this is ending next month."

F*cking enthusiastic Royal assent to that.

Nice art tho. Foxy young lady.

- Trout
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: Matt on 29 October, 2002, 12:30:12 AM
I liked the Bendatti Vendetta.
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: Slippery PD on 29 October, 2002, 01:05:37 AM
Matt, Ive liked it to.  It does read like an intro though.  **This is what these people do** and here are some of the players, nothing too in depth.    

Having said that its not the best story, but its certainly no where near the worst.  Also my knowledge of military hardware is exceptionally limited so knowing that that gun cant shoot through that windscreen, hasnt annoyed me.  Am I the only person on the board, who doesnt get too hung up about things like that?

Or other things that have been mentioned on the board:
MK1 or MK2 lawgivers, shape of helmets, etc.

I mean I like continuity to be basically adhered to, but not at the expense of a good story.

 
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: Trout on 29 October, 2002, 07:44:42 PM
" Am I the only person on the board, who doesnt get too hung up about things like that?"

Very possibly. :-)

- Trout
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: Art on 29 October, 2002, 08:14:22 PM
My favorite gun of the moment is the Steyr TMP with this well wicked folding stock. Dinky.

Link: http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/

Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: roystead on 30 October, 2002, 12:37:26 AM
"My favorite gun of the moment is..."

You have a favourite gun? Scary...
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: paulvonscott on 30 October, 2002, 05:21:23 PM
Really enjoyed the first episode of bendatti, but it sort of wandered off.  In the end 'Crisis Story' is all I can be bothered to say.

A good TPO this month, this is what we want, watching it all go to hell.

Really enjoyed Radlander and Durham Red (nice surprise).

The rest I'm saving for later.

But that cover next week... I think Mr Barnes is taking the piss here :)  Just as well people didn't complain too much about the size of Dredd's package on the cgi issue, or heaven help us what the cover could have been.
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: Tu-plang on 30 October, 2002, 06:40:08 PM
where's TPO up to, history wise?

In Oz we just got 4.15 (?) going up to prog 500ish.
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: paulvonscott on 30 October, 2002, 08:19:35 PM
Hi Tuplang, we are now in the late 700's onwards territory.  That's Junker country.  Basically, the bad times and perversely the bit we all wanted to hear about.  

The drawers of mud is a revelation to look forward to ;)
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: HiEx on 31 October, 2002, 03:11:17 PM
"My favorite gun of the moment is..."

You have a favourite gun? Scary...

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And what's scary about having a favorite gun then?

As a sports shooter, I resent the implication that there is anything scary or wrong about having an interest in firearms.

HiEx
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: almighty mat on 31 October, 2002, 03:32:10 PM
++As a sports shooter, I resent the implication that there is anything scary or wrong about having an interest in firearms++

Me too, and if I could get my hands on some firearms I'd probably start with people who play lacrosse, before moving on to cricket and curling.

mat
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: Art on 31 October, 2002, 04:24:41 PM
As a gun fetishist who frequently reads articles about elite special forces "slotting" people and gets all excited about specialist assault weaponry (hopefully with folding stocks, silencers, and all kinds of other complicated looking accessories) I resent the implication that I'm some kind of nut.
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: GordonR on 31 October, 2002, 04:37:20 PM
On the sad subject of guns, and knowing how much of a rather worrying military hardware buff you are, arthur, I couldn't pick your brains for some realistic-sounding ballistics dialogue, could I?

What kind of handgun bullet would make a nice big bloody hole in someone?  The more technical jargon, the better.  Something along the lines of, y'know, "9mm parabellum slug, with full metal jacket and something-or-other grain load".
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: stodge on 31 October, 2002, 05:03:00 PM
try a controlled expansion, jacketed hollow point bullet, loaded to maximum velocity for the particular handgun you are using.  that should produce a nice mushroom effect on impact which would basically blow someones back off.....
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: Matt on 31 October, 2002, 05:19:41 PM
...failing that, we could all put our handguns down and try to work through the situation as responsible and mature adults.

Shit, watched way too much Trisha.
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: stodge on 31 October, 2002, 05:45:40 PM
Heh!

I know what your thinking.  is that a large handgun in my pocket or am i just pleased to see you!!
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: Art on 31 October, 2002, 05:48:59 PM
The big debate amongst American troops at the moment is whether or not the 9mmm hardball ammunition their handguns use is just too wimpy. Apparently it takes a couple of shots to down a mujahadeen, so many troops have taken to bringing along their own .45 handguns.

Americans gun nuts complain about calibre a lot, and I suspect its something to do with the gun-as-penis-extension. I also think a dislike of the metric system may be behind it, but I may be over interpreting there.

The fact that the military are restricted to hardball ammunition may be the cause of their complaint: It doesn't do any of that expanding-inside-the-body-to-the-size-of-a-dinner plate type stuff that controlled expansion rounds would do, the theory being that the aim of modern warfare is to wound and incapacitate people rather than knock huge holes in them.

More info H&K PDW (http://www.heckler-koch.de/html/english/behoerden/02_submachineguns/02_01_inhalt.html%22%20targte=%22_blank) or the FNP90 seem to be going for smaller, proprietry high velocity rounds which easly cut through body armour.
Title: Re: Megazine 4.17
Post by: stodge on 31 October, 2002, 07:56:19 PM
the intention of modern military ammunition is indeed to wound and not kill, therefore, tying up logistic supply routes in the rear looking after and transporting casualties.  this is why NATO dropped from a standard 7.62mm to 5.56mm Ball ammunition in the late 70's and early 80's.

it is true that the standard ball 9mm parabellum round is inadequate for stopping most targets dead in their tracks and i basically a trade off.  

current thinking is to issue fighter pilots with the H&K PDW (which i have fired incidentally and it's great!!) so that they have an effective combat weapon with a good supply of ammunition (it is small and lightweight compared to 5.56mm) in the event that they get shot down.  the common philosphy with the baretta and Sig pistols used in the Gulf War was to throw it at the advancing enemy in the hope it would distract them long enough for you to run away.  no practical use was really expected in detering possible captors....

Firearms lecture and NATO Policy statement over...