Here is an exclusive mega-short clip from the upcoming series by Marvel on ABC :o
AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFZE3W1SF_Q)
I shall line this up for a series link!
"Coulson Lives" - that totally ruins that tear jerking bloody trading cards bit in 'The Avengers'.
Quote from: Buttonman on 12 May, 2013, 11:06:08 PM
"Coulson Lives" - that totally ruins that tear jerking bloody trading cards bit in 'The Avengers'.
One of Whedon's biggest flaws IMHO. I'll never forget the annoyance of seeing Spike die heroically in
Buffy's finale only to have him show up in
Angel five minutes later. See also: Darla.
Oh c'mon - it's an adaptation of a comic book - resurrections are the norm.
Sounds like they're going to use his resurrection as a plot thread anyway.
Any sign of Samel L ? (or any other black face for that matter)
We didn't see a corpse...
Fury does often lie...
I half expected an injured Coulson at the end of Avengers, so in my head. Fury lied, smeared the cards in blood himself & Coulson was in intensive care while the team thought he was in the morgue.
Simples.
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 May, 2013, 08:55:16 AM
Oh c'mon - it's an adaptation of a comic book - resurrections are the norm.
Sure, but in comics it usually undermines whatever was good or dramatic about the death in the first place, and Coulson's death in particular is at the schmaltzy heart of
The Avengers movie. None of which means I won't enjoy seeing Clark Gregg doing his thing again.
Looking forward to
Minty: The Return now!
Or it could be before The Avengers film?
And is that Luke Cage at the start of the trailer??
Saw a longer, better clip of this earlier but can't find it now gggrrrrr!
Quote from: TordelBack on 12 May, 2013, 11:14:11 PM
Quote from: Buttonman on 12 May, 2013, 11:06:08 PM
"Coulson Lives" - that totally ruins that tear jerking bloody trading cards bit in 'The Avengers'.
One of Whedon's biggest flaws IMHO. I'll never forget the annoyance of seeing Spike die heroically in Buffy's finale only to have him show up in Angel five minutes later. See also: Darla.
At least Buffy's mum stayed dead.
Quote from: Proudhuff on 13 May, 2013, 11:58:49 AM
Saw a longer, better clip of this earlier but can't find it now gggrrrrr!
You means this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ySsw-6aetys (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ySsw-6aetys)
"Don't touch Lola" :lol:
From what I've read it's set after the Avengers.
It doesn't bother me, I can still enjoy Aliens despite the events of Alien 3 making it pointless.
Quote from: The Cosh on 13 May, 2013, 11:59:31 AM
At least Buffy's mum stayed dead.
Apart from that one time. Which was very cool.
Should clarify that I think Whedon is a living god, and any criticisms I have are those of a devout worshipper. It just seems odd for a creator who makes great dramatic mileage out of sudden and unexpected death among his beloved casts to be going about resurrecting them (See also: Jehovah). Basically what I'm saying is WHY NOT ANYA OR WASH, YOU BASTARD.
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 May, 2013, 08:55:16 AM
Oh c'mon - it's an adaptation of a comic book - resurrections are the norm.
Lots of things are the norm in comics, like alienating female audience members, poor characters and dodgy racial politics - doesn't mean we should endorse them in other media.
Of course, Coulson is a brand character now, appearing in the comics, videogames and cartoons, so Marvel naturally want their mileage out of him.
Quote from: Goaty on 13 May, 2013, 12:01:35 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 13 May, 2013, 11:58:49 AM
Saw a longer, better clip of this earlier but can't find it now gggrrrrr!
You means this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ySsw-6aetys (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ySsw-6aetys)
"Don't touch Lola" :lol:
That's the one, cheers goaty
Coulson Lives - well, this is Marvel based so they could just pitch it as being in some alternate universe. That solves most problems of this type. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Professor James T Bear on 13 May, 2013, 01:35:16 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 May, 2013, 08:55:16 AM
Oh c'mon - it's an adaptation of a comic book - resurrections are the norm.
Lots of things are the norm in comics, like alienating female audience members, poor characters and dodgy racial politics - doesn't mean we should endorse them in other media.
Of course, Coulson is a brand character now, appearing in the comics, videogames and cartoons, so Marvel naturally want their mileage out of him.
Hardly the same, and we are talking about a franchise which has a God and his magic hammer knocking around.
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 May, 2013, 02:16:14 PM
Hardly the same, and we are talking about a franchise which has a God and his magic hammer knocking around.
And a man sleep for 70 years...
And a little man with bad skin of green that knock biggest alien monsters!
Quite.
Although I do wonder if he's being brought back to kill him again.
I like the look of that.
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 May, 2013, 02:16:14 PMHardly the same, and we are talking about a franchise which has a God and his magic hammer knocking around.
It's not meant to be a direct equivalent, no, but it is meant to suggest that not all things in various mediums are going to work - or should be encouraged or endorsed - in others. If death has no meaning, where's the dramatic tension?
Quote from: Professor James T Bear on 13 May, 2013, 04:27:11 PMIf death has no meaning, where's the dramatic tension?
Oh grave where is thy victory? The sting of Death is sin, and the power of sin is the Law. (1 Cor. 15:55; but see also Hosea 13:14). Always amazed that one hasn't cropped up in Dredd or Anderson.
Quote from: TordelBack on 13 May, 2013, 12:37:19 PM
Should clarify that I think Whedon is a living god, and any criticisms I have are those of a devout worshipper. It just seems odd for a creator who makes great dramatic mileage out of sudden and unexpected death among his beloved casts to be going about resurrecting them (See also: Jehovah). Basically what I'm saying is WHY NOT ANYA OR WASH, YOU BASTARD.
Why not ask him, he is now on twitter!
@JossActual
Quote from: Goaty on 13 May, 2013, 11:43:51 PM
Why not ask him, he is now on twitter!
Twitter is the tool of Satan! Truly you are the Goat of Mendes.
Quote from: TordelBack on 14 May, 2013, 01:09:06 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 13 May, 2013, 11:43:51 PM
Why not ask him, he is now on twitter!
Twitter is the tool of Satan! Truly you are the Goaty of Mendes.
Fixed.
I have to grudgingly admit that twitter is pretty great, it's just so damned
high maintenance that I can see people getting overwhelmed by it.
Quote from: Professor James T Bear on 14 May, 2013, 01:40:37 AM...it's just so damned high maintenance that I can see people getting overwhelmed by it.
Yeah, I've been with women like that*.
*Not really.
:lol:
Finally got around to watching the trailer and have to say it looked mighty fun. Okay so its all a bit shiny and glossy but that shouldn't be a surprise I guess but yeah looked fun. And damn I know people think Agent Coulson should stay dead and I can see why but he's such a fine character I'll got over that.
Remember this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAMgkpQYOSQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAMgkpQYOSQ)
Also is that meant to be Luke Cage in the trailer? Do we know yet?
Full trailer is now online and LEVEL 7 reveals all.
Trailer is here! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PerIAuv27SQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 15 May, 2013, 07:58:50 AM
Also is that meant to be Luke Cage in the trailer? Do we know yet?
No info on if he Luke Cage or not, but check out this image; it nice to see
J. August Richards of
Angel!
(http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/shield-richards.jpg)
That there is one of Whedon's best qualities: like the Raimis, he looks after his people.
It will be featured on Channel 4 in UK.
No infos on when.
Channel 4 Acquires 'Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' from Disney UK & Ireland.
Channel 4 has acquired the UK premiere broadcast rights to '"Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.", the hotly anticipated new series from Marvel Television and ABC Studios. The series will premiere on Channel 4 in Autumn, soon after its launch on the ABC network in the US.
From those guys at geeksyndicate:
http://geeksyndicate.co.uk/2013/08/22/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-to-air-on-channel-4-this-autumn/ (http://geeksyndicate.co.uk/2013/08/22/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-to-air-on-channel-4-this-autumn/)
Well done Proudhuff, gets the info that's required ;)
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 15 May, 2013, 07:58:50 AM
Remember this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAMgkpQYOSQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAMgkpQYOSQ)
Nope, that was my first time seeing that! Great stuff, thanks for posting.
Great trailer too. I'm glad this show looks like it's keeping the typical Whedon humour.
Fucking ell' Sky don't get a premium show for a change and about time. Looking forward to enjoying this on the telly channels.
Ah, but CHANNEL 4 have it. That means Sky will have it exclusivel from season 2 onward.
ZING!
It also means that the show will be introduced in a hilariously whacky manner where the presenter goes all "hoho, look at this, it's a show with lasers and that in it, must be nerds about - let's circle the wagons and put some Hollyoaks on E4+1!"
I always thought Coulsen's death was faked by Fury to motivate The Avengers to do what he wanted them to (like the manipulative dick he is. Praise be his name!). Honestly, as the Whedon-verse is one long continuity rollercoaster I can let it go with ease.
Just saw trailer on Channel 4, looks good, it's out on Friday 27th September.
Quote from: Goaty on 07 September, 2013, 09:03:48 PM
Just saw trailer on Channel 4, looks good, it's out on Friday 27th September.
Best, birthday present, ever.
20:00 this Friday folks :D
Yep! Also like to know what really happens to Agent Coulsen?
So I watched it... enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would actually.
Definite split between the older characters who are all really good and the pretty models who... to be fair aren't THAT bad. Wasn't keen on the main focus of the episode though and have a bad feeling he's set up to be a regular
Every time Coulson is on screen though it jumps right up and he has all the best lines. Will be watching it next week
I enjoyed it - it achieved quite a lot in 45 minutes - telling a relatively complete story while setting up a bigger one yet neatly integrating the ideas of Iron Man 3 and Avengers without feeling too forced.
Shepard Book's in it too.
Best thing I've seen in a while. Whedon and co. are going from strength to strength.
Quote from: bluemeanie on 25 September, 2013, 10:06:41 PM
So I watched it... enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would actually.
Definite split between the older characters who are all really good and the pretty models who... to be fair aren't THAT bad. Wasn't keen on the main focus of the episode though and have a bad feeling he's set up to be a regular
Every time Coulson is on screen though it jumps right up and he has all the best lines. Will be watching it next week
How have you seen it when it isn't on till Friday???
It was on in America and he watched it there ;)
Totally rotten. Like a nice wrap of all those cringy things non-comics readers jump to when you tell them you love comics. A series totally dominated by flat smug 2d acting spouting lines Whedon is recycling for the nth time. All these impossibly pretty people failing to deliver anything other than mistimed 'quips'. If this was a comic it would be one nobody here would read.
but did you like it?
:lol:
well its on here next week i think so I'll give it a chance, surely cant be any lamer than The Dome was?
CU Radbacker
I liked it quite a bit.
If it was a comic it would be OK not great. However in a comic I would be prepared for say, a giant embodiment of all that is wrong to tear apart the multiverse and unleash the spectres of the abyss on this fragile world before being defeated by an alliance of heroes from across reality, who foil his evil plans at a terrible cost where even those with the power of gods fall, and ultimately all that we once knew is changed forever and the terrible cost that was paid is lost to an altered reality.
Or you know, at the very least, Nick Fury would pop up and they'd fight an army of Hydra goons.
So as a TV show rather than a comic, it was good. Enjoyable. Not mindblowing but nothing really to complain about.
I'm watching episode 1 on TV right now.
So far I'm really enjoying it - it's very fun. I love these 'putting the team together' type stories.
Agent Coulson's gotta be a Life Model Decoy right?
Well that was bloody brilliant.
That was a lot of fun, very much in the spirit of 'Avengers'. I'd say that Clark Gregg stole the show, but given that it's very much his show to start with, best just to say he lived up to expectations. Bet you anything this 'Centipede' stuff is connected to HYDRA - the line about 'cutting off the head' seemed a bit of a nod. Re: Coulson's status - I have a feeling it's going to be a bit more than him being an LMD, though that does seem the obvious route, and the existence of such things has already been flagged up in the cinematic universe.
An enjoyable, easy going hour of TV- perfect Friday night viewing, and over at 9pm in case you're off to the pub, cinema etc.
Quote from: Greg M. on 27 September, 2013, 09:00:31 PM
Re: Coulson's status - I have a feeling it's going to be a bit more than him being an LMD
As do I.
My bet; Coulsons brain inside an android body (or something along those lines).
HYDRA are just fun loving, market driven entrepreneurs versus the government agents Bolshevism.
Good fun first episode. Some things a bit telegraphed the eventual use of the Brit "science" nerds non-lethal gun but that was very well done, cracking first episode.
That was really good fun. Very enjoyable. Definitely watching next week.
Missed it from working late, but I see it on RTE here in the Emerald Isle on Sunday, will have a look then.
Just wished they'd [spoiler]shot the guy at the end about 10 seconds earlier before he got too soapboxy[/spoiler]
Seeing as the show is written by rich white people, I really liked that the guy at the end went off on a rant about the poor and working classes in America and did so without ever at any point being political or referring to anything specific beyond "I can't have this or that." Some would call this an unmitigated level of gall at best, or at worst an attempt to paint a massively powerful, unelected, self-governing and invasive national security agency with martial powers as plucky underdogs up against reds under the bed and fifth columnists in a post-Snowden era, but not me - I just liked when the pretty people said witty and precious things like it was still high school. I certainly have no concerns about the plot essentially being white people hunting and then dogpiling a black guy, either, certainly not topped as it is by what looks to the general population like a man being executed by the police in a train station like he was a Brazilian sparky.
I do have a couple of criticisms, though: it was a pilot episode, so they really should have tried hard to put some expository dialogue in the mouths of characters for at least the first twenty minutes of running time, and every nerd likes characters played by Summer Glau ten years ago, so they could have maybe have had a minimum of four of these characters in the cast, one with an accent maybe for variety.
Marvel hasn't been radical since Steve Englehart stopped writing Captain America in 1975 and the most enjoyable propaganda is always intended for someone else.
It's on 4oD where I just watched it. It's on for one more week. Probably only works in the UK.
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/marvels-agents-of-shield/4od
I enjoyed it. Didn't think I would as I really didn't like Iron Man or the Avengers. Haven't bothered with any other Marvel films as just not my kind of thing.
Thought it got way too schmaltzy at the end though.
If I wanted to be preached at I'd get religion
Felt heavy handed and like the show paused for the message of the day.
I have a rule of watching only a couple of US dramas at any given point, otherwise my brain melts from my ears. I quite enjoyed this, but then, I'm easily pleased when it comes to the Marvel movie universe as I liked all the films from Iron Man onwards. Sure, it was a typical American drama show which followed most of the accepted formula for these things, but I shall be back next week for more. It's a good Friday night romp.
I wonder if any of the movie superheroes will make small appearances down the line (hopefully not too long an appearance, as it's a show about SHIELD) but it would be nice if they dropped in and out along the way...
What interested me was that the creators said they had access to far more of the Marvel Universe's characters than they thought they were going to. Some were obviously off limits due to use in films, but irrespective of whether the Avengers turn up, I got the impression there will be some recognisable characters appearing over the course of the series.
mmmm...I'm pretty disappointed.
The first 45 minutes of plot could have been done away with if someone had just invented [spoiler]existing facial recognition technology[/spoiler], rather than [spoiler]magic guns which we happened to mention in passing earlier [/spoiler], [spoiler]flying robots which save people from having to look around a room[/spoiler], or [spoiler]Doc Brown's car[/spoiler].
Temponaut. The flying car is straight out of the sixties Steranko comics. Fury drove it.
I got bored long before the end - I was expecing second string heroes like Luke Cage, Black Panther or The Vision to show up but instead all we got was a bloke with super strength, the same issue as the last Iron Man (Extremis) and a lot of wooden acting. The pilot always has the issue of introducing lots of stuff whilst also having a story behind it in this case the latter failed as the story was one dimentional and took some over elaborate turns to resolve. May dip in later but for now it's off my list, which is presently :
Homeland (starts 29/09)
Arrow (10/10)
The Walking Dead (13/10)
Grimm (25/10)
Boardwalk Empire (started on 08/09)
Sleep Hollow (Started 16/09 - yet to see but trailers in US looked poor)
The Black List (New James Spader show, still to see)
Bates Motel (2014)
Also liking Orange is the New Black on Netflix and It's always sunny in Philadelphia.
I hate the way every character acts exactly the same and spouts the same sarcy jokes, every character is essentially the same person; all quirky, smart and good looking.
Stereotypical black guy that's down and out of work and trying to do good for his son, ass kicking asian, women that look like they would be more comfortable on a cat walk instead are naturally a scientist and hacker, hunk with a heart for the ladies. Whedon was really writing this shit on auto pilot.
This kinda thing epitomises why I dislike so much of these american tv junk food. Though my kids liked it, so hits it target audience.
Quote from: sheldipez on 28 September, 2013, 02:55:17 PM
I hate the way every character acts exactly the same and spouts the same sarcy jokes, every character is essentially the same person; all quirky, smart and good looking.
Well that essentially
is the filmic Marvel Universe. If it's not your thing then I'm not surprised the TV show failed to impress.
Quote from: sheldipez on 28 September, 2013, 02:55:17 PM
Stereotypical black guy that's down and out of work and trying to do good for his son
Blue collar worker trying to do right by his family is a black stereotype now?
I can entirely understand you not liking it, but I think you might be trying a little
too hard to dislike it.
Cheers
Jim
Its a staple of the Blaxploitation genre. So I can see where he's coming from personally.
Quote from: Mister Pops on 28 September, 2013, 06:48:25 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 28 September, 2013, 06:39:57 PM
Its a staple of fiction generally.
FTFY
Precisely. Blue collar schlub getting ground down by The Man is a pretty common trope — there's nothing about this character that specifically reads
black stereotype to me.
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 28 September, 2013, 06:56:12 PM
Quote from: Mister Pops on 28 September, 2013, 06:48:25 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 28 September, 2013, 06:39:57 PM
Its a staple of fiction generally.
FTFY
Precisely. Blue collar schlub getting ground down by The Man is a pretty common trope — there's nothing about this character that specifically reads black stereotype to me.
Cheers
Jim
Indeed. British drama would be none existent without it...
Quote from: Professor James T Bear on 28 September, 2013, 01:45:56 AM
Seeing as the show is written by rich white people, I really liked that the guy at the end went off on a rant about the poor and working classes in America and did so without ever at any point being political or referring to anything specific beyond "I can't have this or that."
Except he didn't say anything like that. I thought the speech made it pretty clear his problems were more existential than political, in any case. Essentially, that life now seems meaningless, because there are actual gods walking the Earth, and how can he as any ordinary man compete with that?
I agree that shooting him in the head as a solution was possibly not in the best taste, though.
Quote from: Goosegash on 28 September, 2013, 07:31:26 PM
Except he didn't say anything like that. I thought the speech made it pretty clear his problems were more existential than political, in any case. Essentially, that life now seems meaningless, because there are actual gods walking the Earth, and how can he as any ordinary man compete with that?
His lead up was all about
'I did what you told me to do but you robbed me and I'm still stuck on the breadline, why did you not give me what you promised?'. He had a bit of an addendum about gods and stuff after that but it seemed like first he was supposed to be railing against authority but now there's gods walking the earth why can't he be like them too.
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 28 September, 2013, 02:25:18 AM
It's on 4oD where I just watched it. It's on for one more week. Probably only works in the UK.
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/marvels-agents-of-shield/4od
I enjoyed it. Didn't think I would as I really didn't like Iron Man or the Avengers. Haven't bothered with any other Marvel films as just not my kind of thing.
Thanks for the link. Yep I liked it too. And I liked the humour, particularly the dark corner gag.
A few more less attractive people would be nice but that sort of thing is to be expected.
And I confess, I do like looking at attractive women.
Enjoyed it. Will probably review but not tomorrow.
I started watching it on 4OD last night. Serious number of adverts on there. A bit off putting so think I'll wait till it comes out on Lovefilm or something. Looked quite expensive though!
Gunn/Richards (superdad) speech is heavily cribbed from the Kurt Busiek/Alex Ross epic, Marvels, when J.Jonah Jameson and the protagonist start to freak out about the presence of flaming men, atlantean demi-gods and all the other weird stuff that kicks off in the Marvel universe around World War 2. Particularly the reasons that Phil (protagonist) gives when he tells his fiancee he can't marry her anymore.
Highly recommend that book! Probably a good place for many people to get little hints of things spread through Agents of Shield too, all the easter eggs. It's basically 50 years of comics condensed into the key moments with some stunning artwork by Ross.
Well that was pretty underwhelming, a few humorous gags aside.
I'll give it a few more episodes to improve and at least Orphan Black followed after on BBC 3, so not entirely an evening wasted.
And they've all got the 'perfect hair' superpower right? ;)
Quote from: dweezil2 on 29 September, 2013, 01:42:38 PM
they've all got the 'perfect hair' superpower right?
Apart from the slaphead from the films. It seems horribly dated; an awful lot's happened in telly since the mostly awful
Angel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwgxne3tzZw).
Well I'll sit and watch the next episode which is as good a recommendation as I give anything these days.
It was pretty good, as you'd expect from a Whedon show - a good few quips, nice set up for future stories and a nice pay off with the car.
Thumbs up from me.
i watched it and thought it was just more of the same old boring generic US scifi tv dribble. But then, i've never really been interested in thor, iron man, or the hulk. So the idea of a spin off... I guess im not the target market.
I want something really subversive and dark - american scifi is too bright and shiny!!
Dave
Quote from: Proteus4 on 29 September, 2013, 06:43:01 PM
I want something really subversive and dark - american scifi is too bright and shiny!!
Dave
American Horror Story: Coven starts in a few weeks. Doesn't get darker than that.
Here's my in-depth Review of the Pilot episode!
http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/09/review-agents-of-shield-1x01-pilot.html (http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/09/review-agents-of-shield-1x01-pilot.html)
But, if you prefer the shorter version:
It was an okay pilot, but the next few episodes need to develop their characters, introduce some interesting threats, preferably a recurring enemy (maybe Hydra?) if it hopes to keep up the hype. Due to its link to the Marvel Universe, it's probably got a second season already, but it'll need to keep audiences entertained otherwise it'll end up haemorrhaging viewers quickly.
I hope they lay out some intriguing mysteries and build a season-arc, as well as using some of the obscure Marvel heroes/villains that would normally not make it to screen.
Quote from: Proteus4 on 29 September, 2013, 06:43:01 PM
I want something really subversive and dark - american scifi is too bright and shiny!
I wouldn't say Marvel comics were ever Sci-Fi (although there's mucho fiction in that science) but the last thing I want to see is another dark superhero. I'd prefer thay all had the tone of 60's/70's Marvel or Moore's ABC comics. You can still be subversive within those parameters without being morose.
Yeah, but then modern audiences will think it's "childish" if it tries to be colourful or outright fun, as those tend to be qualities viewed as synonymous with camp, and camp=gay and gay=evil.
I'm calling it that we'll see one or more character under a bus before the end of the season for a bit of gravitas, or someone will have a sexual assault/torture backstory, if not an entire episode dedicated to it.
So Agent Couldson is back from the dead, remarkably, through some method he should never be told. Cor blimey! Is it time for some sci-fi trope to be rolled out? I reckon he's a clone, or a robot. I doubt it'll be any more imaginative than that.
How come all the secret agents of enemy/revolutionary/subversive sects are perky brunettes these days?
All in all, vaguely entertaining guff, but the last episode of The IT Crowd that followed it was the main event that night, if you ask me.
Attached pic shows how you make it 100% more awesome
Anyway, watched it a second time now as the wife wanted to see it, enjoyed it more actually. Yeah, everyone is pretty but thats US television isnt it? Gotta sell it to the MTV crowd... and that's new non music MTV not the stuff we used to watch
Also while it is all a bit light, fluffy and... well, Buffy there's nothing wrong with that. Don't get me wrong, Im 100 times more excited for the proposed Gotham Central show and hope that's aimed at an older, darker and more cynical audience and takes it's tonal cues from the awesome Hannibal show, but an Avengers movie tie in should be a bit cartoony. It's never gonna make my list of top tv shows but as a bit of nerdy comic related background while I'm having my tea it'll do the job
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 30 September, 2013, 10:21:57 AM
So Agent Couldson is back from the dead, remarkably, through some method he should never be told. Cor blimey! Is it time for some sci-fi trope to be rolled out? I reckon he's a clone, or a robot. I doubt it'll be any more imaginative than that.
How come all the secret agents of enemy/revolutionary/subversive sects are perky brunettes these days?
All in all, vaguely entertaining guff, but the last episode of The IT Crowd that followed it was the main event that night, if you ask me.
^^ this.
Playing devil's advocate here but I do have to wonder when we all got so jaded that clones and robots became boring. Fuck, this show is all led by Whedon. The clever move would be to have him be an AI and feed that into the next Avengers movie and Ultron in some way
Safe money is on a Life Model Decoy as they're a standard of the SHIELD comic universe.
Sad thing is they've brought him back as a link to the movies but I guarantee anything they do to explain it will be ripped for either being so out there it's stupid or for not being out there enough.
Personally I think the show is better for him and they could just have Joss Whedon walk in front of camera at the start and say "Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey HE'S BACK"
Quote from: bluemeanie on 30 September, 2013, 01:27:30 PM
Sad thing is they've brought him back as a link to the movies but I guarantee anything they do to explain it will be ripped for either being so out there it's stupid or for not being out there enough.
Yeah... someone on FB was moaning about the "Back to the Future" flying car, until I pointed out that SHIELD's flying cars pre-date BTTF by more than twenty years...
Cheers
Jim
I just wish Coulson had said "Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads".
So, I caught this at the weekend and whilst I didn't hate it, I thought it was decidedly 'meh'. The whole thing just came across as a very generic US series - I could have been watching Nikita or Continuum or Fringe etc.... It might improve over the next few episodes but so far I have not seen much to get me hooked. Best thing in it was Coulson.
Quote from: bluemeanie on 30 September, 2013, 01:27:30 PM
Playing devil's advocate here ... this show is all led by Whedon.
There's no reason Joss Whedon gigs can't be silly froth
and something quite dark and complex. I only saw a few of the later Philip K Dick/Apocalypse Now episodes of
Dollhouse, but (as far I can tell) that show started off as something quite different. The concept of SHIELD as an organisation is politically dubious enough to legitimate
Homeland levels of twitchy paranoia while embracing the fun aesthetic of
The Man From UNCLE.
Well there is in this case because he's obviously been told "Make something for the kids who love Avengers but with as little expensive superhero stuff as possible"
Not saying it all has to be bubblegum but the first episode at least has to be aimed at a wider audience and is probably required to shift a few toys as well
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 30 September, 2013, 10:21:57 AM
All in all, vaguely entertaining guff, but the last episode of The IT Crowd that followed it was the main event that night, if you ask me.
:thumbsup:
Agents of Shield. More like Agents of Mild.
Quote from: Recrewt on 30 September, 2013, 01:59:46 PM
I just wish Coulson had said "Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads".
Thank God he didn't. Endless referencing of pop culture by other bits of pop culture is about the worst thing I can think of. It's funny, this is the only piece of US drama I've had any interest in for years and years. I know others on the forum rave about their Wires and their Breaking Bads and their Mad Mens and whatnot, but these shows hold zero interest for me, however excellent I expect they probably are. I really hope 'Agents of SHIELD' steers well clear of dark and cynical and goes for glossy fun with recognisable Marvelly bits.
Quote from: von Boom on 30 September, 2013, 06:07:52 PM
Agents of Shield. More like Agents of Mild.
Agents of SHITE. Missed a sitter there.
I enjoyed this quite a lot. Yes it's full of US TV clichés (that country seems full of scientific genii who are all hot women in their twenties), but it's a passable US action show that is elevated by the Marvel superhero stuff. I did chuckle at the "with great power..." line.
Can't wait to see where this is going.
(but the IT crowd was better!)
Well I was very disappointed the second time around. Not enough weird.
This is MARVEL COMICS. There is plenty of weird to have much better macguffins than that.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 30 September, 2013, 01:34:17 PM
Quote from: bluemeanie on 30 September, 2013, 01:27:30 PM
Sad thing is they've brought him back as a link to the movies but I guarantee anything they do to explain it will be ripped for either being so out there it's stupid or for not being out there enough.
Yeah... someone on FB was moaning about the "Back to the Future" flying car, until I pointed out that SHIELD's flying cars pre-date BTTF by more than twenty years...
Cheers
Jim
This is a great point Jim. I've heard similarly ill educated comments before that something older copied something newer...
I've heard people talk about the multiple viewpoints in the Song of Fire and Ice books for example as though George R R Martin invented that style. Which i# find even more worrying than people not knowing about Nick Fury's car...
Quote from: The Enigmatic Dr X on 29 September, 2013, 07:37:42 PM
Quote from: Proteus4 on 29 September, 2013, 06:43:01 PM
I want something really subversive and dark - american scifi is too bright and shiny!!
Dave
American Horror Story: Coven starts in a few weeks. Doesn't get darker than that.
Don't worry - I'm counting down the days! It's dark, subversive and a whole lot of fun!! Not like agents of SHIELD.
Finally watched this last night:
Childish & confused storytelling & tone, uneven characterisation, odd plot, bizarre ending. Some good lines though. And flying cars are fine with me.
Ratings drop 34% for the second episode, so a lot of people also felt the 'meh'!
http://screenrant.com/agents-of-shield-ratings-drop-episode-2/?kw=sideshared
The pity is it could have been the best show on TV. And that's clearly not going to happen now. It all felt very rushed and cheap and complacent. Committee driven storytelling. Which doesn't cut it these days. Not with Vince Gilligan et all writing such visceral, personal work.
Just saw the second one, REALLY enjoyed it
More of a spy thing that a superhero one. Hell it was borderline A-Team at one point. Actually works better for me tbh. This was normal people with a comic book maguffin to work around.... so, you know, Agents of Shield. Glad it's not gonna be "generic super villain of the week" as that'd really start to show the budgetary restrictions quickly.
Was onboard for the second episode, am now really looking forward to the third
I just watched the first and while it wasn't the greatest hour I've TV I've ever seen I will give it another couple of episodes. I think it could have used a guest appearance from one of the A-list hero's or even feature some of the lesser knowns though.
Am I the only one getting really tired of the super hero hitting the ground really fast and leaving a small crater in the tarmac and then standing there for a few seconds (or getting up from a crouched fist against the floor pose) routine?
Quote from: Rog69 on 03 October, 2013, 11:34:13 PM
Am I the only one getting really tired of the super hero hitting the ground really fast and leaving a small crater in the tarmac and then standing there for a few seconds (or getting up from a crouched fist against the floor pose) routine?
Agreed. If cities had to continually repair the damage created by superheroes they'd soon be bankrupt and the heroes would be run out of town by the angry population have to pay ever rocketing property taxes.
Ah Marvel's Damage Control all over. That was a great idea.
Quote from: von Boom on 04 October, 2013, 01:09:46 PM
Quote from: Rog69 on 03 October, 2013, 11:34:13 PM
Am I the only one getting really tired of the super hero hitting the ground really fast and leaving a small crater in the tarmac and then standing there for a few seconds (or getting up from a crouched fist against the floor pose) routine?
Agreed. If cities had to continually repair the damage created by superheroes they'd soon be bankrupt and the heroes would be run out of town by the angry population have to pay ever rocketing property taxes.
Man of Steel anyone?
well I enjoyed ep2. Don't understand people complaining it isn't dark... have you never seen a Marvel movie? And it also had a nice cameo [spoiler]to stop the people complaining[/spoiler]. Although that will not happen.
Yeah, that was fun. I enjoyed it more than the first one, TBH... the show seems to be getting a lot of flak for not being something it's not affecting to be. Dammit, what's wrong with some fun, eh?
Cheers!
Jim
Enjoyed it again this week. Love that plane too!
My only real objective whinge would be that I'm utterly fucking sick of seeing in medias res openings on tv shows now - I mean sick to the back teeth of seeing "X hours earlier" appear onscreen. At one point every single show I was watching for like a month opened in this way.
Anyway - I dunno why people want it dark beyond that was what Battlestar did and so they want everything to be that po-faced and lacking in awareness now, but AoS is a perfectly good SyFy Channel show from ten years ago about pretty people chasing fantasy-oriented McGuffins. You can take that as a slag if you want, but I grew up with SyFy Channel shows and that is all I need to distract me from thinking about the unavoidable finality of death that awaits us all. No wheels have been reinvented for the show, but then why would they do that? I imagine if the makers have any A material they'd keep it for the films or for more personal projects. It's a decent distraction is all.
Quote from: Professor James T Bear on 05 October, 2013, 01:02:58 AM
My only real objective whinge would be that I'm utterly fucking sick of seeing in medias res openings on tv shows now - I mean sick to the back teeth of seeing "X hours earlier" appear onscreen.
The
teaser, as they call it, has unfortunately become ingrained in telly, from docs and game-shows to weekly dramas, and the reason why is simple: a short burst of emotive drama shorn of context has proven to grab the short attention span of viewers and make them watch or cofused enough not to switch channel. I hate it when it's on everything but it's generally an executive decision. They don't even need the
few hours earlier slug as it's obvious what it is after the main title has broken things up. They should ditch the reflective voice-over as well especially when it's from the P.O.V. of a less strong character.
This week's ep. was all right; a lot sloppier in places than the pilot but like the pilot things improved after the first 15-20 minutes and I hope some acting lesson vouchers are on-hand for at least one of the cast. The tone fits well enough but it looks far cheaper than it should suggesting the production turn-a-round is pretty quick- maybe shot 2-3 weeks before broadcast. The
Avengers-lite back and forth bickering doesn't work well enough to stop it from registering as just noise but these things are easily ironed-out if they decide to put flesh on these characters.
If it makes the break from relying on the plot points established in the films it can develop its own identity- I doubt we'll see most of the third-tier Marvel characters in the films so this is probably the best chance to ever see a live-action M.O.D.O.K.
I just thought episode 2 was boring. A cheap spy thriller, more in tune with Relic Hunter or some other dross than anything worth watching. The Marvel Universe connection was extremely thin. "It's a hydra laser!" does not sustain me. I felt dizzy after getting hit around the head so many times with the team-spirit bat this time.
I don't really like the plane. I don't want dark, I'm happy for fun - this just wasn't fun either. So much material to mine in the Marvel universe and this could literally have been the A-Team. Lots of techno gibberish diminished (and this was not of the Fringe style mad science but of the Star Trek writing team style of finding a complicated way of saying something very simple) any of the impact of the threat.
Just hope next episode has a better mcguffin or feels less obsessed with forcing teambuilding situations down my throat.
Quite liked that. I suspect it's a show aimed at young teens with just enough thrown in to keep the adults happy raather than other way round.
Well I enjoy both episodes!:)
I like the plane! Very Firefly!
Episode 2 - "0-8-4"
It was nice to see a change in pace, with a macguffin device, as opposed to using a non-Marvel hero/villain of the week. Although, next week is rumoured to have Marvel villain, Graviton, in it, although he may not be named, as such. It seems to be getting there, but it's just lacking that spark and sense of direction that a lot of serial dramas seem to have. Maybe establishing a 'big bad' or some stronger over-arching storyline will give it a bit more oomph!
More detailed review here > http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/10/review-agents-of-shield-1x02-0-8-4.html (http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/10/review-agents-of-shield-1x02-0-8-4.html)
I'm not overly impressed with it so far, found it kinda boring. Hopefully it will pick up but I have doubts.
I think if it wasn't for the main character this would fall flat, (Superhero CSI?) however he adds the spark to it, glad to see some non Neo-Con views expressed too. So I'm happy to keep watching.
Altho I missed the explaination about the macguffin's origin? was it german or ancient?
I took it to be German - bought over by an excaping scientist at the end of WWII and went wrong and buried itself in the temple.
But why would that cause consternation? Surely people find new things in old temples all the time; after all people visit them.
I lost my car keys at Skara Brae - I'm pretty sure that wasn't taken as evidence that they had access to Fiat Multiplas back in 5000BC.
cheers tips, took a phone call right at the Basil bit so was left wondering.
Saw the first episode and thought it ok. Saw the second episode and thought "what load of boring tripe".
Will watch a few more to see if it gets any better, but I'm not confident.
Cheers
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 07 October, 2013, 12:21:51 PM
But why would that cause consternation? Surely people find new things in old temples all the time; after all people visit them. I lost my car keys at Skara Brae - I'm pretty sure that wasn't taken as evidence that they had access to Fiat Multiplas back in 5000BC.
It would have done if they were found deeply embedded in rock in a previously undisturbed chamber deep below a previously unknown pyramid.
I have just watched the first over the weekend, can't say as I thought that much of it, but then I'm likely now using Breaking Bad as a bench mark ...
watched the 2nd one with my flatmate and it didn't take long to get him up to speed: "That's the hot computer hacker journalist - she's sassy! Those are the hot science nerds - they're geeky and/or British. She's the hot ninja chick who has given up the killing business but been brought back for One Last Mission. He's the hot macho action man who doesn't get on with any of the hot science types and that one is the team leader with Secrets. Those are CSI-bots. Oh and that car flies".
Eventually these clichés will be codified so that we can save time by saying "it's a sci fi show with a 7b, two 4js and a 16c"
So it seems Coulson has dealings with the secret services of South America, his main contact of whom is... a perky brunette. *sigh*
I'm all for strong female characters in film or TV, but do they all have to be so hideously typecast?
As for the episode itself, I fell asleep halfway through, which is a very bad sign.
I'm probably not going to bother with the rest of this series.
Ah well, I tried.
I thought the first one was quite fun and entertaining enough over its 40-odd minutes. I thought the second one was quite fun and entertaining enough over its 40-odd minutes. I suspect without Coulson it would have been less watchable (and I don't like the way it diminishes his actions in the movie), but it's quite fun and entertaining enough. (There might be a theme building in this message.)
That said, I imagine Shield's arrived at a good time. I'm quite often too knackered to think in the evenings these days and want something amusing to watch; I'm not really about to get into Dexter or Breaking Bad again just yet, and Shield-flavoured fluff's no worse than some of the other guff Mrs G and I have been ploughing through of late (Warehouse 13; Fringe).
So far I don't care if any of them live or die. In fact I'd prefer a major death already so they can perhaps swing things in a different direction. I vote for Mr. Lone Wolf guy. He's about as one dimensional as it gets. The two super scientists should be close behind.
Or they should just kill Coulson in every episode and have him show up in the next, saying how great Tahiti is.
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 07 October, 2013, 06:07:22 PMAs for the episode itself, I fell asleep halfway through, which is a very bad sign.
I fell asleep during the first one :lol: but I still recorded this one, so I'll keep trying but if it happens again, then I'm out!
Quote from: Dudley on 07 October, 2013, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 07 October, 2013, 12:21:51 PM
But why would that cause consternation? Surely people find new things in old temples all the time; after all people visit them. I lost my car keys at Skara Brae - I'm pretty sure that wasn't taken as evidence that they had access to Fiat Multiplas back in 5000BC.
It would have done if they were found deeply embedded in rock in a previously undisturbed chamber deep below a previously unknown pyramid.
S'pose. But my first thought would still have been "Somebody else has been here first."
I think you lot are being unduly harsh on this.
Needs death? It's a family genre show and has people that don't normally watch family genre shows watching. We may all (profess to) have seen it all before but not everybody has.
Well Fringe got worlds better after getting past its X-files ripoff phase. Hopefully this'll do the same.
I haven't seen this yet, but I can't seem to avoid the internet chatter, which seems as ever to crave and yearn for the elusive 'dark'.
Do people really want it to be Marvel's The Dark Knight, or The Wire with superhero trimmings? Wouldn't a lighter family show be nice too? Shouldn't comics-stuff be for kids too?
Anyhow, if Whedon has one constant in his work is that light'n'fluffy silliness will abruptly and without warning end in tears.
second what Tips says, there is room for a bit fluff in the wide spectrum of telly, the 'team' IS very Sci-fi by numbers as DDD says ( TV Sfi-Fi bingo anyone?)
but its all short hand so they can crack on with the story, the whole 'Post-Life crisis' is enjoyable too, as I say its the Coulson character that lifts this above the humdrum, as he's the only bit of the team that isn't by numbers.
Yeah, not sure why folks are expecting dark when this is basically an Avengers movie spin-off and that was not dark.
Second ep was OK - I enjoyed the cameo at the end and laughed at the fish tank quip. Like others have already mentioned - this just seems a bit 'cheap' but I'm not sure why - I suspect it has a healthy budget. Also, yeah - Coulson is the best in it so far - probably because I am most familiar with his character. So far the others are a bit unimpressive, this might improve as they get more screen time but you have to wonder with all the young actors out there if these really are the best they could get.
I didn't fall asleep this time ;) but it's just by the numbers TV, which has a place for its, 'target audience'. You could even have a little Marvel Bingo card on your lap and play along as the episode unfolds.
It's a 21st century A-Team show. And there's nowt wrong with that. If you want dark, watch a swedish crime drama.
Quote from: Daveycandlish on 08 October, 2013, 05:36:21 PM
It's a 21st century A-Team show. And there's nowt wrong with that. If you want dark, watch a swedish crime drama.
^^this.
I don't want it to be dark, just a little less predictably formulaic. Joss Whedon usually manages to subvert the genre to soem extent and do something new but this time he just seems to be cranking the handle and churning out 2D characters and clichéd plots.
Can't remember what put me onto this, as not into Marvel or any recent superhero movies - but thought
this was pretty great (a bit sillier in the 2nd episode but OK).
The dialogue's the thing, sounds sharper than the usual and wouldn't be surprised if it's a team of writers
knocking those out as is the US way.
No-one's mentioned the music, though. It's loud and incessant. It thumps over a lot of the dialogue and
causes me some rewinding... does it have to think it's a film? There's a plane with a hole in it - I know that's
tense. Don't shout at me :o
I don't want 'dark'; I just want 'better".
For a Joss Whedon created show, it doesn't half feature some dull, dull characters, other than Coulson, who pre-existed anyway. The male lead's a plank of wood and the Scottish and Englih babbling boffin pair are already just irritating.
Plot-wise, all we've had so far are low-stakes missions against under-powered antagonists. (As a friend of mine said about the pilot, "I was on the edge of my seat, wondering how a heavily armed team with unlimited resources were going to take down a single unarmed guy with the strength of two or three people."
Still, it's good of Joss to give his lesser-talented brother and sister-in-law a bumper payday gig like this.
At least it wasn't Zack, writer of The Shepherd's Tale. *shudder*
"Zack Whedon, what quality of yours do you think got you that lucky break when you landed your first TV job as production assistant on Angel? And how difficult was it for you to convince editors that you were the guy they should hire to write comics based on Firefly and Doctor Horrible?"
Fab series so far it's really bedding in now. Episode 3 is spot on. All hail the Whedon :-) oh! And I hope the rumour of Coulson being the Vision is true.
3rd episode was quite good, but would it really have took that much to do a tiny bit of research - Malta is in the EU, it say so on their Wikipedia page. >:(
Yeah, the Malta thing had Mrs G and I making puzzled faces. It smacked of the laziness that permeates throughout the entire show. And as much as I quite liked the first couple of episodes and wanted to give the show a pass, I admit that three episodes in, it's not doing much for me. There's just no spark, little wit, and it lacks the quirkiness and intrigue usually associated with Whedon (at least in Buffy/Angel/Firefly—I've not seen Dollhouse).
I initially thought it compared favourably to the other US tat Mrs G and I had been trawling through, but I think on reflection, I'd sooner spend an hour getting further into Fringe. That might be formulaic, but at least it has some interesting characters and ideas. Still, perhaps Shield will pick up. I'll probably give it another two weeks, but it's all a bit too grey right now.
The characters are not interesting, the plots are boring and predictable, they already wanked coulsons super secret within 3 seconds of the opening credits.
This will thankfully be cancelled after one season. On the plus side Sleepy Hollow and Blacklist are surprisngly good and will also be cancelled after one season. probably
If you want to watch a marvel tv show that is fun and entertaining then there is only
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E78EKj5kAt8
Urgh, I can't stand the current spiderman cartoon. Especially since it took over from Earth's Mightiest Heroes, which was the closest Marvel ever came to DC's level of animated goodness (well, DC's old level of animated goodness. Nothing beats Batman.)
Can't believe the Malta gaffe. Maybe it's not in the EU in the marvel universe due to an assasination by Baitroc ze leaper on the behest of Victor Von Doom.
QuoteI initially thought it compared favourably to the other US tat Mrs G and I had been trawling through, but I think on reflection, I'd sooner spend an hour getting further into Fringe.
Fringe soon abandons the formula and writes a few of its own, as befits a mad science show.
well that was... okay, the Malta gaffe was typical of US telly, but I was mega inpressed by the guard's triple back flip into the pool after getting trashed by Mr Woodenplank.
As a show it needs some panazz and something seriously leftfield in the next couple of episodes to keep me watching
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 14 October, 2013, 10:27:35 AM
Urgh, I can't stand the current spiderman cartoon. Especially since it took over from Earth's Mightiest Heroes, which was the closest Marvel ever came to DC's level of animated goodness (well, DC's old level of animated goodness. Nothing beats Batman.)
My son watches it sometimes and I want to punch myself in the ears as soon as I hear this version's Peter Parker's voice, Parker is one of the few genuinely likeable people within Marvel IMO and they give a voice that would be at home as a Spongebob Squarepants character.
Such a great premise failing to live up to its potential. So far this show is taking a very steep nosedive. Hopefully they'll pull out of it soon.
Quote from: sheldipez on 14 October, 2013, 10:57:12 AM
Parker is one of the few genuinely likeable people within Marvel IMO and they give a voice that would be at home as a Spongebob Squarepants character.
Sandy, Patrick, Squidward or Mr Krabs? Surely not Plankton?!?
As mentioned by a customer in the Our Valued Customers comic store: While discussing AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D.... (http://ourvaluedcustomers.blogspot.ie/2013/10/while-discussing-agents-of-shield.html)
Quote from: Ancient Otter on 16 October, 2013, 09:46:58 PM
As mentioned by a customer in the Our Valued Customers comic store: While discussing AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D.... (http://ourvaluedcustomers.blogspot.ie/2013/10/while-discussing-agents-of-shield.html)
for you;
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I like the person who links Shield with Friends—that's pretty good.
Here's my take on Episode 3:
http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/10/review-agents-of-shield-1x03-asset.html
A slight upturn in the quality, although they need to work on fleshing out some of the other characters now - May, Fitz and Simmons, in particular!
I've snuck a look at the synopses for the next few episodes, and there's nothing particularly mind-blowing about them, but hopefully it can take some average-sounding premises and build an intriguing approach to them.
Not sure if anyone is still watching this, but it has been steadily improving with this week's episode taking another step up in quality, without relying on a Marvel Universe cameo (or Samuel L. Jackson)
Definitely worth a watch on 4oD, if you have it!
Here's my detailed review [with episode SPOILERS]
http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/10/review-agents-of-shield-1x04-eye-spy.html (http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/10/review-agents-of-shield-1x04-eye-spy.html)
I can't remember what happened in the latest episode but when it did I stopped watching it, deleated that episode and cancelled the series link. Whatever it was, it infuriated me!
What, during the episode where the rogue agent has a[spoiler] camera-death device in her eyeball[/spoiler]?
That was the best episode yet, I thought.
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 23 October, 2013, 10:03:37 AM
What, during the episode where the rogue agent has a[spoiler] camera-death device in her eyeball[/spoiler]?
That was the best episode yet, I thought.
Yes I enjoy that too!
Love that moment when [spoiler]"Seduce Him" text message appears[/spoiler]
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 23 October, 2013, 10:03:37 AM
That was the best episode yet, I thought.
Yeah. I got a Man From UNCLE/ Mission: Impossible vibe from this episode that was very welcome. I'd be quite happy for them to push in this direction with SF tech and the occasional superpower thrown in to mix it up a bit.
Cheers!
Jim
I'm still enjoying this series. i usually go to the pub on a Friday night and this makes for a nice easy watch on Saturday morning.
Quote from: JamesC on 23 October, 2013, 12:31:20 PM
I'm still enjoying this series. i usually go to the pub on a Friday night and this makes for a nice easy watch on Saturday morning.
Ditto!
Quote from: Goaty on 23 October, 2013, 12:42:22 PM
Quote from: JamesC on 23 October, 2013, 12:31:20 PM
I'm still enjoying this series. i usually go to the pub on a Friday night and this makes for a nice easy watch on Saturday morning.
Ditto!
Watch with a severely impairing hangover. Gotcha. Thanks for the tip.
After being disappointed by the first episode, I tuned in accidentally this weekend to see if it had improved. It hadn't. Still a cast of unlikable no-marks in a dull spy series that bears precious little similarity to any SHIELD comic I've read or the Marvel movies from which it ejaculated, like a half teaspoon of thin grey seminal fluid brought about by a halfhearted and forgettable wank.
It just doesn't feel like the same thing as the movies. Not like Avengers Assemble or Thor or Cap, anyway. It might be reminiscent of the weaker Xmen films, I suppose- but I don't really bother with or care about them. This week's, about a Japanese Human Torch (was it?) wasn't interesting enough to drag me away from Facebook and eBay- which says about all you need to know. Pulled and "Re-imagined" after one series, is my guess.
SBT
i wish i'd never posted in this thread. everytime i check for replies to my posts this thread pops up and i have no interest in it whatsoever. can we all just agree to stop talking about it coz it's poo? i would like that.
thanks in advance for your consideration of my humble request
much love
Dave
Quote from: Proteus4 on 31 October, 2013, 01:04:22 AM
i wish i'd never posted in this thread. everytime i check for replies to my posts this thread pops up and i have no interest in it whatsoever. can we all just agree to stop talking about it coz it's poo? i would like that.
thanks in advance for your consideration of my humble request
much love
Dave
Ha I feel the same - where's unsubscribe when you need it. I gave up after 1st ep. No interest in this and my kids haven't asked to watch any more either.
Sorry to annoy those who've no interest in the show, but here's my review for episode 5, which is actually pretty good. I have a feeling that this show, if it continues its upturn might win back some of its lost viewers towards the tail-end of the season (or in the second season)
This felt like a sequel to the pilot, and developed several story-lines further, giving the sense of an ongoing mystery rather than lots of self-contained adventures.
http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/10/review-agents-of-shield-1x05-girl-in.html (http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/10/review-agents-of-shield-1x05-girl-in.html)
wonder why there's no episode this week? Ep 5 not on till 8th November.
Broadcast break in the US as well (as happens quite a lot out there)—ep. 6 is broadcast on the 5th.
Yeah I've just put channel 4 on to watch this and found some bloke waving his cock about - I thought "this has changed it's target audience"! Stupid embarassing bodies >:(
Snigger.
I forgot this was skipping a week. I for one like this show, although judging from other threads I seem to like a lot of stuff many consider dross.
Can't wait for Ep 6 the weeks break is wetting my appetite further.
This was probably the first episode that made me give a damn about the main characters. I loved the one with the Speyeball but this was great too. Lets hope it sticks
Watch ep 6 great all round family entertainment. Disney and ABC definitely know what they're doing. Hints in the TV episodes indicate links to up and coming phase two movies. This is a first for Marvel using the kind of arc's you get in comics and utilising them from TV to movies :-)
I caught a bit of this for the first time yesterday. Is that posh English scientist girl in it much? Because she was on screen for the whole 10 minutes I managed to watch, and frankly that was all I could stand of her, and by extension, it.
I stopped watching after episode 2 - glad people are enjoying it, but with all the solo Marvel films, plus the Avengers plus the announced netflix series it feels too much of a chore to keep up with them.
Ever since MOONRAKER, I have a soft spot for any film or programme [spoiler]where somebody throws themselves out of a perfectly good plane without a parachute attached.[/spoiler]
Still enjoying this despite the fact that it's nowehere near as good as it could/should be.
Rewatching the Captain America: Winter Soldier trailer - particularly the bits with the Helicarrier - the SHIELD tv show really does come across as short-changing me somewhat.
Quote from: TordelBack on 09 November, 2013, 11:16:23 PM
I caught a bit of this for the first time yesterday. Is that posh English scientist girl in it much? Because she was on screen for the whole 10 minutes I managed to watch, and frankly that was all I could stand of her, and by extension, it.
She's in it every week.
That's. Every. Week.
Her and the babbling Scots guy form a hilarious wacky-boffin partnership that, if it were put to a popular vote, would probably see the pair of them thrown into the SHIELD jet's turbine engines.
I had high hopes this might be cool and fun, but it's just dreary and irritating, and I'm stopping watching.
Yeah, they're both pretty annoying.
The flipside though, is Coulson - I really enjoy the bits that he is in. He is very understated and is great to watch. Ideally, all the pretty young things should fall off the plane next week and we can just follow Coulson around for an hour, with the odd cameo from Samuel L Jackson. :thumbsup:
Quote from: GordonR on 11 November, 2013, 01:19:44 PM
Her and the babbling Scots guy form a hilarious wacky-boffin partnership that, if it were put to a popular vote, would probably see the pair of them thrown into the SHIELD jet's turbine engines.
yes another series with a Moonlighting will they/won't they partnership is the last thing we need, given the pilot/Coulson thing AND the hacker/Plankman on/off romances.
I had hoped for a HULK SMASH! type guest each week, as it is, its Glee meets CSI in a plane.
Well I did enjoy last Friday's episode. It pick up, I am sure it get better, and I am still watching it.
Quote from: Proudhuff on 11 November, 2013, 01:47:30 PM
as it is, its Glee meets CSI in a plane.
My thoughts too, the reason I bailed a few weeks ago.
If reviews are strong enough at a later stage, I'll pick up the box-set.
To me, even though I do enjoy it as a moment of escapism every week, it seems too light and frivolous. It all seems a little too disconnected from the worlds of the movies. Plus they seem very slow in introducing the series long story arc that should hopefully engage us more. There has been too little of Centipede (Hydra?), which I personally think should take more of a front row position in the storytelling.
It does waste an hour on a Friday night quite nicely though!
Here's my Review of Episode 6 - "FZZT"
http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/11/review-agents-of-shield-1x06-fzzt.html (http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/11/review-agents-of-shield-1x06-fzzt.html)
Nice episode, with some real drama in the second half, giving the sense of actual peril for these characters for the first time. If they continue to deliver solid episodes like this, it may actually win back some of the fans it lost with the initial couple. I have a feeling that considering the backlash against some of the cast, there might be some causalities at the close of the season, which I'd like. I think a rotating central cast would work better for a high-stakes global spy drama, rather than six spies in a plane.
I'm enjoying my Friday night escapism.
Yes I'd like a wee tweak with the dynamics. I prefer Fitz/Simmons to Skye n Ward,I'd rather they cooled that one. The long slow reveal about Melinda is good.
I have an alarmingly intricate idea about Coulson that is so crazy I won't say...
OK here it is... [spoiler]Scarlet Witch is in Avengers 2. Antman has a movie first & is also in Avengers 2. Antman is Henry Pym& Henry Pym created Ultron. Ultron is in Avengers 2. Ultron invented Vision and Vision isn't in Avengers 2 but Vision is the love interest for Scarlet Witch... Coulson is dead,the Coulsonin Agents of Shield thinks it is Coulson but it is the fleshy-android Vision...[/spoiler]
See, it is mad fan-boy stuff... sorry... I didn't *want* that theory...
Maybe, but in episode last Friday that [spoiler]he got scar on his chest from Avengers[/spoiler], and few weeks ago he was [spoiler]bleed[/spoiler].
Just hear that next week episode will be follow up tie to Thor: The Dark World. Maybe it was [spoiler]some Dark Elf stuff left around? [/spoiler]
Quote from: Bat King on 12 November, 2013, 11:27:05 PM
I have an alarmingly intricate idea about Coulson that is so crazy I won't say...
OK here it is... [spoiler]Scarlet Witch is in Avengers 2. Antman has a movie first & is also in Avengers 2. Antman is Henry Pym& Henry Pym created Ultron. Ultron is in Avengers 2. Ultron invented Vision and Vision isn't in Avengers 2 but Vision is the love interest for Scarlet Witch... Coulson is dead,the Coulsonin Agents of Shield thinks it is Coulson but it is the fleshy-android Vision...[/spoiler]
See, it is mad fan-boy stuff... sorry... I didn't *want* that theory...
I've heard that [spoiler]Ultron is not Pym's creation, but Jarvis, Tony Stark's A.I butler.[/spoiler] My theory is [spoiler]S.H.I.E.L.D have made a copy of Jarvis and have started dicking around with it.[/spoiler]
As for Coulson? He's so calm all the time isn't he? Wouldn't it be cool if he [spoiler]HULKED OUT! They saved him using Dr. Banner's blood or something.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Mister Pops on 12 November, 2013, 11:38:26 PM
As for Coulson? He's so calm all the time isn't he? Wouldn't it be cool if he [spoiler]HULKED OUT! They saved him using Dr. Banner's blood or something.[/spoiler]
Or [spoiler]Khan's[/spoiler].
Yup
I reckon the Coulson sub-plot in Friday's episode was designed to rule out any Robot / LMD / Vision talk, leaving the possibility that he is either an alternate version from another Universe (Ultimate Universe, perhaps), somehow resurrected by some "alien tech" which will have consequences or a clone.
I quite like the idea of him being from an alternate universe - possibly one where Loki and the Chitauri won?
Hopefully there will be more clues than him just feeling "different"
hopefully he'll cross to the dark side because of this alien tech/ loose chip and run amok on the plane...
The Film Universe is pretty much Ultimate Universe... Same Nick Fury for example & no Peter Parker... OK no Spider-Man at all... but certainly no Peter Parker.
...or X-men...
I don't know if it's been mentioned but this has been confirmed for a full 22 episode first season now.
Quote from: Bat King on 14 November, 2013, 12:44:02 AM
The Film Universe is pretty much Ultimate Universe... Same Nick Fury for example & no Peter Parker... OK no Spider-Man at all... but certainly no Peter Parker.
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 14 November, 2013, 04:33:25 PM
...or X-men...
There's actually nothing to stop Marvel putting Spidey in a TV series since - in this specific case - they hold both animated and live-action TV rights to the character; Sony only own theatrical feature rights. I presume Marvel will hold out while their relationship with Sony seems relatively good but like the X-Men & Fantastic 4 they do want their flagship character back in the fold and if Sony shows no signs of ever sharing or selling cinema rights I can see Marvel exploiting the character elsewhere.
Pretty much sums it up:
(http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i-hhJBQRK/0/950x10000/i-hhJBQRK-950x10000.jpg)
Blimey I haven't seen Penny Arcade for years - the art style is massively different!
Episode 7, ... Bloody lovely and the plot thickens regarding Coulsons death:-) Any guesses at who's Sky's Shield parent is ?
Watched this for the first time the other night. Don't think I'll bother next time. Seemed like....Hollyoaks meets MI High. Not for me.
Quote from: dracula1 on 17 November, 2013, 04:45:14 PM
Episode 7, ... Bloody lovely and the plot thickens regarding Coulsons death:-) Any guesses at who's Sky's Shield parent is ?
Probably nobody from the Marvel universe....
A few theories me and some pals came up with regarding these plot threads ,...
Sky's parents could possibly be Hawkeye and Black Widow. I like the idea of Coulson turning out to be a Vision like android as recent rumours hinted at.
Yes. Don't let the fact that Scarlett Johansson is only 5 years older than Cloe Bennet dissuade you from the theory that the characters they play could be mother and daughter...
Quote from: GordonR on 17 November, 2013, 07:05:59 PM
Yes. Don't let the fact that Scarlett Johansson is only 5 years older than Cloe Bennet dissuade you from the theory that the characters they play could be mother and daughter...
And both be equally boring.
Teenage pregnancy fella's :-)-
The actress who plays the character was mentioned somewhere as being half-Chinese, so I suspect the eventual reveal might be a lot more boring than theories floated on the thread so far.
Quote from: Professor Bear on 17 November, 2013, 08:25:50 PM
The actress who plays the character was mentioned somewhere as being half-Chinese, so I suspect the eventual reveal might be a lot more boring than theories floated on the thread so far.
Not the pilot's but The (real) Mandarin's daughter.
If anything this new series loved and hated in equal measures on our forum is getting us talking.
I've forgot what FRiday's episode was about... which about sums things up.
A sandwich, mostly
A WMD in Madeupistan.
Quote from: JohnMcF on 18 November, 2013, 10:33:02 AM
A WMD in Madeupistan.
I'm still enjoying this show - it's good light-hearted fun.
As for Sky's parentage, I'm guessing it's going to be a super villain of some description - maybe someone like Viper?
I wouldn't discount Black Widow entirely though. Despite the ages of the actresses they could easily get away with saying BW is mid thirties while Sky is 19-20 (going by castings in other US TV shows).
You know what? I caught this last episode and bloomin well loved it. Yeah, it was corny and you could see where it was going but I laughed loads through it - I laughed when the hacker girl was not allowed in the hub, laughed when the english girl was trying to hack the panel and stunned that bloke and laughed when the lab geek went on the mission and kicked that bloke in the head.
It's not too clever and there are some issues with it but I have realised that I keep tuning in every Friday and at least it means I don't have to watch something like Coronation Street. :thumbsup:
As for Coulson, my money is on him being an alien cyborg from a future alternate dimension. Beat that!
It will be revealed this week that Coulson is now one of the Kursed as part of the Dark World tie in.
Quote from: JohnMcF on 18 November, 2013, 10:33:02 AM
A WMD in Madeupistan.
oh yeah, member it now, Jock and Mr Plank go on a field trip, English rose wimpers
Quote from: Proudhuff on 18 November, 2013, 03:36:45 PM
oh yeah, member it now, Jock and Mr Plank go on a field trip, English rose wimpers
So, presumably, somebody is tying you to a chair and holding your eyes open while it's on?
Cheers
Jim
no, I live in hope, not of the chair thing, but that it will deliver. However this seems to be receeding faster than Phil Collins hairline.
There is so much there, and if rearranged in the correct way would make it a cracking series.
Only two more sleeps till episode 8-)
My favorite part of the last episode was the fact that they couldn't afford a matte effect, which is something that media students knock out in their lunch hour, so they had a big cgi effect of their plane hovering - which I don't recall it doing in the series before - in one shot, and then it cuts to stunt actors being blown with hairdryers in another shot. Within the context of the fiction, it does raise the question why guards stop and wait to be blown over by a plane rather than shooting at it before or after they've been knocked over, or why moving the engines to a different angle doesn't make the plane move in the opposite direction like in that thing in school they teach to children - fizziks I think it was called - or why two people laying in the middle of a road side by side waiting to grab onto traffic as it drives over them might be a bad idea, or why an EMP just turns the electric off rather than destroys electrical equipment entirely, etc...
In an alternate universe version, the two 'heroes' had their arms ripped off my that road stunt and bled to death. Annoying English scientist then hurled herself out of the plane, but there was no-one there to go after her this time. That left the three somewhat bearable characters on the plane, and they all went to Tahiti for a holiday.
The end.
Some of you guys take a bit of fun light entertainment far to seriously. There's another thread for serious debate about the size of Dredds helmet in the movie.
What happened to "getting us talking"?
Quote from: Professor Bear on 18 November, 2013, 06:43:52 PM
What happened to "getting us talking"?
You talked. I got bored. ;-P
Cheers
Jim
SO IS YOURE FACE
I'm llking it too.
Particularly liked the magic window gag. Heh. Come on, that was funny!
I don't think the Fitz and Ward held onto the car as it passed over them, the 'sleeping bag' they were in was magnetic so it picked them up when the truck passed overhead. Although I'm sure there's just as many continuity holes in that approach too!!
I'm really enjoying it - It's advanced leaps and bounds from the initial two episodes and is beginning to develop nicely with some ongoing mysteries and recurring enemies.
Here's my detailed review of the latest episode:
http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/11/review-agents-of-shield-1x07-hub.html (http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/11/review-agents-of-shield-1x07-hub.html)
Wow! episode 8.... Great tie into Thor 2. Keep watching true believers.
So what if you haven't watched Thor 2, but will probably get round to it on rental? Is this new episode full of spoilers? Does it even make sense?
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 21 November, 2013, 10:32:29 AM
So what if you haven't watched Thor 2, but will probably get round to it on rental? Is this new episode full of spoilers? Does it even make sense?
Yes, it makes sense. No, there are no spoilers for Thor 2.
Cheers
Jim
My problem with the show is that I don't mind the actual agents like many of you guys do. It's their agency that leaves me cold. SHIELD really is an evil, manipulative, awful organization. It's so wrong-headed, since the original comic was actually named to cash-in on UNCLE but there's none of the fun or lightness or sense of "hey, these are the good guys" with SHIELD itself that I want to see. This is "hey, we're SHIELD and we'll do whatever we want and that includes sacrificing two of the lead characters with no extraction plan because we're THAT badass and bloodthirsty."
My own extraction plan is to wait until one of the four competing ongoing subplots finally gets resolved and decide then. We watch it on demand because it's not on at a convenient time for us; it's very easy to forget to do that.
Quote from: Grant Goggans on 21 November, 2013, 07:46:24 PM
My problem with the show is that I don't mind the actual agents like many of you guys do. It's their agency that leaves me cold. SHIELD really is an evil, manipulative, awful organization. It's so wrong-headed, since the original comic was actually named to cash-in on UNCLE but there's none of the fun or lightness or sense of "hey, these are the good guys" with SHIELD itself that I want to see. This is "hey, we're SHIELD and we'll do whatever we want and that includes sacrificing two of the lead characters with no extraction plan because we're THAT badass and bloodthirsty."
My own extraction plan is to wait until one of the four competing ongoing subplots finally gets resolved and decide then. We watch it on demand because it's not on at a convenient time for us; it's very easy to forget to do that.
That's what they're like in the comics! They are pretty bloody cold. Nick Fury is sly and manipulative, and shield are constantly using and abusing their assets. If that's an issue, then it's also an issue with the source material!
Will
That's not a problem with the show specifically as much as it is an enduring cliche of the genre. Sure, it was popularised in the 1990s by X-Files, but it's still ingrained in the genre because sci-fi is notoriously conservative, reactionary, and slow to embrace new ideas.
Doesn't matter if it's the FBI, the CIA, or even the Girl Scouts of America, the writing approach is to immediately adopt the attitude of a floppy-haired 14 year-old hipster about it: "ugh, more than one person working towards a common goal, that's so conformist and mainstream and crypto-fascist."
Quote from: willthemightyW on 24 November, 2013, 05:51:50 PM
That's what they're like in the comics! They are pretty bloody cold. Nick Fury is sly and manipulative, and shield are constantly using and abusing their assets. If that's an issue, then it's also an issue with the source material!
Will
Only since Bendis started writing em that way. Previously SHIELD was a "No matter what the cost but NEVER leave a man behind" badass spy network. People were sacrificed but only in the noble heroic way (which granted could be a little grim in Kirby's extreme square jawed fashion).
Now Jim that's what i was wanting more of! Loki's staff and fisticuffs, dark secrets etc. promising promising.
Yeah I thought this latest one was definitely alright, mainly due to the angry superpowered people and the professor.
you mean I've watched all that dross and then missed the one good episode immediately after giving up on it? Bollox. I'll have to try 4OD
I personally prefered the Spy-in-the-eye episode. That's my highpoint so far.
Looks like the show has got a stride now. Needs another cameo soon though. Would love to see Stark or Cap.
Quote from: dracula1 on 25 November, 2013, 06:48:51 PM
Looks like the show has got a stride now. Needs another cameo soon though. Would love to see Stark or Cap.
Black Widow would increase the number of viewers more. :)
Quote from: Proudhuff on 25 November, 2013, 03:06:26 PM
Now Jim that's what i was wanting more of! Loki's staff and fisticuffs, dark secrets etc. promising promising.
Anyone know why all the signs in Norway were in English?
This is the first episode I've watched a decent amount of (suckered in by the clips from the
Thors), and I thought it was pretty terrible - bit worrying to hear it's the best one so far. Like one of those cheap CSI knock-offs crossed with Supah Ninjas, with Clark Gregg in the George Takei role. Actually that'd probably be better than what I saw before I gave up at the halfway point.
I forgot about the Black Widow. Scrap Cap and Stark I'm up for that cameo too ;)
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 24 November, 2013, 11:42:43 PM
Quote from: willthemightyW on 24 November, 2013, 05:51:50 PM
That's what they're like in the comics! They are pretty bloody cold. Nick Fury is sly and manipulative, and shield are constantly using and abusing their assets. If that's an issue, then it's also an issue with the source material!
Will
Only since Bendis started writing em that way. Previously SHIELD was a "No matter what the cost but NEVER leave a man behind" badass spy network. People were sacrificed but only in the noble heroic way (which granted could be a little grim in Kirby's extreme square jawed fashion).
Exactly.
I've got collections of the Kirby / Steranko / Lee stuff and it's super-cool, *fun* spy-fi. I'd love to work for *that* SHIELD; they have jetpacks and crazy tech and wild gadgets and secret bases under barber shops. I wouldn't dare work for the TV SHIELD. I'd get left behind and disavowed for the "greater good."
Quote from: Dandontdare on 25 November, 2013, 06:23:08 PM
you mean I've watched all that dross and then missed the one good episode immediately after giving up on it? Bollox. I'll have to try 4OD
yes.
Here's my thoughts on the episode:
http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/11/review-agents-of-shield-1x08-well.html (http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/11/review-agents-of-shield-1x08-well.html)
It was a good little cross-over that felt like a low-budget version of 'Fear Itself', the recent Marvel Comics event. Lots of nice little twists and turns, especially with Peter MacNicol's character.
While some might be annoyed that it didn't cross over enough with the Thor: The Dark World movie, it managed to hit the right balance, not alienating anyone who hadn't seen the film yet.
well this is now a real disappointment for me, so much potential and so little realisation of it. There's a whole Marvel universe out there to explore and instead we just get poor X Files/Fringe rip off's, the latest episode really was the pits, telekinesis yeah, oh no it wasn't phsych!!!!
I'm still gonna watch it but really just disappoints week after week.
CU Radbacker
Well, that episode was pretty good, not the best of them, but they are steadily increasing in quality, and I have really started to enjoy this!
Will
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but my local Waterstones has a new, nice, fat collection of Steranko Nick Fury stories (from the comic he shared with Dr Strange- Strange Adventures was it? and Nick Fury Agent of SHIELD) and, even squatting on the floor of the bookshop, crammed in a gaggle of teenage manga-readers yet to discover deodorant, the few pages I read gave me more pleasure than any of the tv version I have yet caught (which amounts to one episode and some bits).
The character of Fury never did a thing for me, until Mark Millar rethought him in The Ultimates- he was always decidedly second-string, but those Steranko issues- which I'd not seen before- were exceptional, and I'd happily pick up a copy when I find it cheaper.
SBT
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 01 December, 2013, 11:17:50 AM
...those Steranko issues- which I'd not seen before- were exceptional, and I'd happily pick up a copy when I find it cheaper.
SBT
Some of those were reprinted in colour in the 70s in the Marvel UK Captain Britain weekly. Stunning artwork.
Ep 9. Scared the pants off of me. Not a Ghost in the end but a inter dimensional time jumper? Is this how Night Crawler does it? Also what was the world we glimpsed in the middle of the explosion, one of the 9 realms or the world of Thanos? The plot thickens.
I dig the show, fun stuff. Though Skye is pretty much my main reason for watching, with respect to Coulson.
http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/11/review-agents-of-shield-1x09-repairs.html (http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/11/review-agents-of-shield-1x09-repairs.html)
I liked the constant shifting of the goal-posts on this one. Is it telekinesis, is it a ghost, no wait, it's a [spoiler]bloke who teleports a lot[/spoiler]
Little bit disappointed we didn't get more from Agent May, who gets out-acted by whichever vehicle she happens to be driving in her scenes. The cryptic clues dropped by Coulson seem to suggest further revelations will be on their way - probably linked to Skye's parents.
I'm not looking forward to this week's episode, which seems to be revisiting the worst aspects of the pilot - namely, Mike Petersen, the Luke Cage avatar since that character's been bought by NetFlix.
Episode 1x10 - The Bridge
I liked the way plot threads from the majority of the episodes so far were utilised in this mid-season finale, which capped off with a decent cliff-hanger, although I'm more interested to find out what Coulson's resurrection entailed than the fates of Ward & Petersen. Judging by Centipede's interest, I have a feeling it'll be something they can attempt to reverse-engineer, like with Scorch.
Link to full review:
http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/12/review-agents-of-shield-1x10-bridge.html (http://popculturebandit.blogspot.com/2013/12/review-agents-of-shield-1x10-bridge.html)
Totally stoked for ep's 11 and 12 early next year. I hope the Vision rumour relating to Coulson has some truth in it :P
I seem to be out of sync with this now. There was a two-week downtime in December and then I missed the episode just before Christmas. Does anyone know when this is back on our screens?
Febuary (UK)-wise), I believe (though not confirmed / official)!!!
Quote from: Batman's Superior Cousin on 07 January, 2014, 05:22:19 PM
Febuary (UK)-wise), I believe (though not confirmed / official)!!!
Ahhhhh, OK. Cheers.
I've so far only seen the first one, is it worth sticking with?
Quote from: Judge Olde on 07 January, 2014, 06:30:40 PM
I've so far only seen the first one, is it worth sticking with?
Thats a long drawnout discussion, best read this thread from the start to find out :D
I'm following it and even I don't know the answer to that yet although the announcement that Stan Lee is going to play a "big role" (http://io9.com/stan-lee-will-have-a-big-role-on-agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-1496432322) is an interesting one:
It was back last night in the US.
So the explanation for Coulson's 'resurrection' was as underwhelming as the rest of the show then. Bah.
Spoiler tags Nero sir!
Sorry, it's just [spoiler]that he's very much alive these days.[/spoiler] That's all I meant by it. Apologies if it's spoilerific.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. to air remaining episodes in the UK in March (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/01/08/agents-of-shield-to-return-to-uk-screens-in-march-exact-date-tbc/)
Agents of Shield Ep. 8: The Well
Monitor screen: "Breaking News– Violence breaks out on the streets of Oslo"*.
*except we only have footage of O'Connell St. in Dublin with the biggest gold harp in shot:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img11/3425/luznv.jpg)
Episode 11 and the bar has been raised. Great to see Coulsons death story finally unfolding.
Seen it now - agree Monty if it really is [spoiler]that yes he's just resurrected with no real consequences beyond trauma.... YOU HAD BECOME UNGODLY. Really? That's it - ? He wasn't a life model decoy or a clone or anything? Anticlimax to the max[/spoiler] but knowing this show they'll find another half-baked twist to plug in further down the line.
There was a point where all the "team" were standing there in the desert looking like Liberty X and Geoffery said to me "which one's Darius?" and we realised to our horror that not only was Darius not in Liberty X - but that they were all Darius. And he wasn't even in Liberty X.
Again: Another damp squib from the SHIELD canon - with most of the actors chewing scenery throughout. Ruth Negga is particularly excruciating but maybe she wobbles her head so much because she's a lizard (http://marvel.wikia.com/Raina_(Earth-616)).
I sense a pattern: writer's underperform, viewers imagine the rest! (see Sherlock.)
Looks like a tie in with Winter Soldier is in the offing. Great family entertainment for none fans and marvelites alike.
P.s. Watch your comments because Joss Whedon is stalking our forum !
Quote from: dracula1 on 09 January, 2014, 05:32:17 PM
P.s. Watch your comments because Joss Whedon is stalking our forum !
Oh that would be Mr Soap.
Dracula1 what on earth gives you that idea?!
I doubt he stalks the thousands of forums dedicated to his own works let alone one dedicated to something he's never expressed an interest in (not that I'm aware of anyway).
Managing the Marvel cinematic universe and an incredibly lacklustre spy show reportedly also set in it probably takes up a lot of his time I should think!
Dracula1 is Joss Whedon and I claim my fiver.
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 09 January, 2014, 02:10:58 AM
Seen it now - agree Monty if it really is [spoiler]that yes he's just resurrected with no real consequences beyond trauma.... YOU HAD BECOME UNGODLY. Really? That's it - ? He wasn't a life model decoy or a clone or anything? Anticlimax to the max[/spoiler] but knowing this show they'll find another half-baked twist to plug in further down the line.
There's probably no 'good' way to answer it as the partial answer they gave is not much better than him being either [spoiler]a life model decoy or a clone[/spoiler],
all options are equally lame.
Quote from: Montynero on 09 January, 2014, 08:06:47 AM
I sense a pattern: writer's underperform, viewers imagine the rest! (see Sherlock.)
More pertinently, see Dollhouse.
I do wish they would try using guns a bit more. Its a bit ridiculous watching two of them jumping into a room full of people to beat them all unconscious, particularly when need the geek team to pull little tricks to slow down the one bad guy who remembered to bring a gun to the party.
And does no one on the show laugh when they read someone confirming that Skye will be of absolutely no use on the mission.
Yeah, I'm pretty much done with this shit.
I never liked Buffy, I thought Firefly was just ok, but after enjoying Avengers immensely, I was willing to give Whedon another chance. I stuck it out this long, but the pay off in last night's episode was just pathetic, and the show's just full of plot holes you could fly a giant aerodynamically impossible plane through.
Yep. I am fairly tolerant with this kind of thing - I thought there was going to be some continuity cake - but yeah, by episode twelve we really are clambering over and stepping on proper intolerance levels. Lots of soapy wank - lots of needless horsehit. Shield really is treading the bland waters and saying literally nothing new. It's standard American drama 101.
Which - it's doing ok at I suppose. I made the mistake of expecting more I think - that the most mainstream comics manufacturer in the US might, with its bright and colourful canon, translate well onto the small screen. INFINITE POSSIBILITIES.
It's not just me, a relatively casual Marvel fan, that feels slighted though - most critics are saying "who cares". Who are these people? Why are the producers forging this incredibly boring new universe when the Marvel one is so interesting?
When we talk of TV as it was in the early tentacles when we live in a hyper-ridiculous future in two decades time - people will be talking about the revolutionary dramas - the genre-busting visual novels forged by HBO. Not this half-baked backwards cliche arse.
That's it - I've thought far too much about this. I'm well out. Sod Agents of SHIELD and all that sail in her.
Now, comics, let's talk about them!
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 January, 2014, 11:39:36 PM
Agents of Shield Ep. 8: The Well
Monitor screen: "Breaking News– Violence breaks out on the streets of Oslo"*.
*except we only have footage of O'Connell St. in Dublin with the biggest gold harp in shot:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img11/3425/luznv.jpg)
Tisk, that is the statue commemorating the exact spot where Jack the Giantkiller desended from the Beanstock giant golden harp under arm,I read it on the tinternet so it must be true.
I'll be waitng for SHIELD to return to steam telly, but not with much hope judging by the comments above
Ahem. My post above could easily be in the "posting drunk" thread (or its hopefully-never-made sister thread: "posting incredibly drunk") :S
But I stand by my slurred typings really - one watch under the influence and my sober acceptance of it kind of washed away. There was just so... much... melodrama there - and I for one don't want to waste another 40 minutes of my time desperately waiting for something interesting to happen. I'm not one to give up on a new thing and maybe the fabled season 2 will be worth a watch but maaan I'm happy just reading about it.
In cider veritas
Episode 12 was fab. The pace is picking up now and the introduction of various villains on the show that may well appear in up and coming Marvel blockbusters is a great idea. I think what the Shield series may enable is the wider Marvel universe to expand into the movies. Limited screen time in movies like Cap 2 and Ultron won't have time to introduce these characters but filtering them through TV shows will ( two birds with one stone, Disney know what they're doing). Just to clarify, I'm not drunk while writing this and I'm not Whedon stalking the forum ;-)-
QuoteWhen we talk of TV as it was in the early tentacles when we live in a hyper-ridiculous future in two decades time
Completely lucid apart from this one :)
Quote from: dracula1 on 16 January, 2014, 10:16:34 PM
Episode 12 was fab. The pace is picking up now
After only 12 episodes? That's reassuring.
Looks like Mr. Stan Lee is in ep. 13 . . . a possible Shield Agent or Centipede villian? :lol:
It'll likely be cancelled at the end of next season, coinciding with the events of The Winter Soldier, and replaced by Peggy Carter.
Jed Whedon & Maurissa Tancharoen (the Actual show runners) have stated that they have a two year Myth Arc in place!!!
This wouldn't be the first Whedon show to get canceled with its "myth arc" in place.
I don't know what 'myth arc' means but it sounds wanky as hell.
Quote from TVTropes
QuoteLike a Story Arc, but longer — spanning the entire series.
A Story Arc is "an ongoing storyline", according to TVTropes!!!
Lady Sith will be in episode 16.
Stan the Man and now Wonder Woman wannabe Sith to star in up and coming episodes, this gets better by the Week for Marvel. And on the other hand Warner drags its feet and delays Superman vs Batfleck :-(
Sif.
Bless you.
https://twitter.com/Marvel/statuses/424239349962514433?screen_name=Marvel (https://twitter.com/Marvel/statuses/424239349962514433?screen_name=Marvel)
The "Clairvoyant" revealed in episode 14!!!
Quote from: Batman's Superior Cousin on 20 January, 2014, 12:08:52 PM
https://twitter.com/Marvel/statuses/424239349962514433?screen_name=Marvel (https://twitter.com/Marvel/statuses/424239349962514433?screen_name=Marvel)
The "Clairvoyant" revealed in episode 14!!!
Nope - the identity will be revealed "in the last 9 episodes of Season One!"
Lady Sif of Thor will appears in Episode 15...
(http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/04/jaimie-alexander-sif-thor-dark-world1.jpg)
Quote from: Dudley on 20 January, 2014, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: Batman's Superior Cousin on 20 January, 2014, 12:08:52 PM
https://twitter.com/Marvel/statuses/424239349962514433?screen_name=Marvel (https://twitter.com/Marvel/statuses/424239349962514433?screen_name=Marvel)
The "Clairvoyant" revealed in episode 14!!!
Nope - the identity will be revealed "in the last 9 episodes of Season One!"
Sigh :-[
Major SPOILERS (http://www.superherohype.com/news/288657-marvels-agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-makes-deathlok-plans)!!!!!
Wonder if this means anyones going to give the series another shot. :lol:
Agents on a Train - just me, or were there huge and pointless continuity errors through the whole thing? And characterization errors? And terrible dialogue?
Nice films of Italian-ish scenery, but that's not really what I look to Marvel to provide.
Great Episode. Stan Lee as a Heffner type character with two beauties on each arm was a right laugh. :lol:
They were Stan's nurses. He can't walk on his own and they have to hold him up.
That's going to be a cosplay at the next con. Carrying a Stan Lee dummy around.
Just a heads up that AoS continues after it's mid-series break on terrestrial channel 4 , this Friday at 8pm
Quote from: strontium71 on 09 March, 2014, 09:29:53 PM
Just a heads up that AoS continues after it's mid-series break on terrestrial channel 4 , this Friday at 8pm
video set to stun!
but I did miss Falling Skies on Saturday...and can't find it on catch up :(
If only there was some other way. Though might get you 2 years in the cubes...
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 10 March, 2014, 12:53:19 PM
If only there was some other way. Though might get you 2 years in the cubes...
managed to find it on C5 webpage eventually, but not without seeing masses of spoilers
Just tried to watch the first episode after the mid season break and the recording messed up with 15 mins to go :'(
Take it they rescued Coulson. Was there a reveal about how he came back to life?
Quote from: Magnetica on 01 April, 2014, 09:16:15 PM
Take it they rescued Coulson. Was there a reveal about how he came back to life?
Sort of, more of a tease, but an intriguing one.
I rather liked this episode, first time I've said that about this series.
I gotta to say, that episodes after Season break got better and enjoyable.
[spoiler]Deathlok [/spoiler]ooh...
Quote from: Goaty on 01 April, 2014, 10:39:12 PM
I gotta to say, that episodes after Season break got better and enjoyable.
Nah. It's sill a huge bucket of stomm.
Quote from: TordelBack on 01 April, 2014, 10:30:41 PM
Quote from: Magnetica on 01 April, 2014, 09:16:15 PM
Take it they rescued Coulson. Was there a reveal about how he came back to life?
Sort of, more of a tease, but an intriguing one.
I rather liked this episode, first time I've said that about this series.
Ok so any chance of telling me what it was? I managed to see the bit in the next episode's "previously" bit that [spoiler]SHIELD planted a false memory in his head about his recovery[/spoiler] but was that it?
Spoiler question:
[spoiler]If this series is linked to the ongoing Disney/Marvel movie continuity what's it gonna be called after the events of Winter Soldier?[/spoiler]
Keep watching this series it picks up pace and is so good to watch. Episode 16's full reveal of the Deathlok Cyborg and it's tie in with the Winter Soldier is immense :-)
Quote from: dracula1 on 02 April, 2014, 10:18:54 PM
Keep watching this series it picks up pace and is so good to watch. [spoiler]Episode 16's full reveal of the Deathlok Cyborg and it's tie in with the Winter Soldier is immense :-)[/spoiler]
ahem
Excuse me in my excited review I may have given bits away :( keep watching c4 as it gets better and better per episode :-)
Great episode, so Coulson get the drug from [spoiler]G.I Trooper[/spoiler]? ;)
The drug in question, a reoccurring theme in past Marvel movies ?!
Nope
Kree blood perhaps ?
It's blood, but we're not sure whether the alien in question was Kree!!!
Well this mystery along with many others boiling in AoS are keeping fans of the series talking.
There's now rumours of [spoiler]a traitor within their mist[/spoiler]!!! :o
Nope
:D
Well I'm glad I haven't missed much here :lol:
Traitor mystery with tie in to Cap 2. Very clever how they have linked the movie and TV series together :-)
Please stop spoiling future episodes with these "reveals", Drac.
I come to this thread to see discussions about episodes that have just aired.
Anyway, we are still watching this in The Tips Household. Just. I'm sure here are things that make the fan boys grin with glee but , not having much knowledge of Marvel, most of it just whizzes by. Still, Bill Paxton is always welcome on my telly.
I will now hold my tongue, .... enjoy the ride catching up on C4 :-)
Holy Sh*t. Just saw episode 17, and all that I can say is that this has gone from entertaining to very good to must see TV. What an outstanding episode, although it does give massive spoilers on the new Captain America movie, which unfortunately I have not seen yet. You guys watching on C4 are in for a hell of a ride over the next few weeks!!
I'm hooked now, enjoying this, especially RT's token appearance in a giant test tube!
Agree, enjoy this episode, lovely to see Sif.
[spoiler]So here the list of blue aliens; Mentadites, Levians, Fairgots, KREE, Saks, Centurions, and Frost Giants[/spoiler]
you missed out RT!!
I watched the first seven episodes, gave up, watched Captain America (loved it!) and tried again with episode 17 since some friends on Facebook went into warp spasms over it.
Must-see-TV my eye.
Seriously, what happens sounds good on paper, but it still requires that you care about the characters. Nothing happened that persuaded me that I was wrong to dump it in November. Unlikable characters, poor acting, cheap cinderblock sets. I think all the budget went into the fight choreography, and to their credit, Ward's fistfight with the wall o' agents really was impressive, but that was it.
Quote from: Grant Goggans on 14 April, 2014, 04:20:45 PM
I watched the first seven episodes, gave up, watched Captain America (loved it!) and tried again with episode 17 since some friends on Facebook went into warp spasms over it.
Must-see-TV my eye.
Seriously, what happens sounds good on paper, but it still requires that you care about the characters. Nothing happened that persuaded me that I was wrong to dump it in November. Unlikable characters, poor acting, cheap cinderblock sets. I think all the budget went into the fight choreography, and to their credit, Ward's fistfight with the wall o' agents really was impressive, but that was it.
I think the problem you may have is the fact that you have missed episodes 8-16 because they concentrate heavily on the character building and the laying of the foundations for the main story arc (e.g. Tahiti, Peterson's development and episode 17' s big reveals) This is especially true of episodes 14-16, which is why the events of episode 17 had a greater impact for me than they did for you.
Or maybe I am just a sucker for this kind of thing?? ;)
I think that "sucker" is an appropriate word, yes. :lol:
I don't know if y'all ever got Spy Game in the UK. That was a broadly similar action/espionage show made for the same network in 1997 or so. It was one of Patrick Macnee's last recurring roles before he retired, and the reaction I had was very similar. People would say "Wow! Patrick Macnee and Peter Lupus are on Spy Game!" just like people say "Wow! Deathlok is on Agents of SHIELD!" today, and you're making allowances for dull, dull, unengaging TV just because it checks an old nerd box. If this had nothing to do with Marvel Comics, and was "Agents of THUMB" or something, it would've been canceled after about four weeks. Like Spy Game was.
The really funny thing is that you'd think that this show has all the goodwill in the world, because it's a SAINT JOSS WHEDON show set in the MARVEL UNIVERSE, and the tie-in episode aired right the heck after the number one movie on the planet opened got the lowest ratings the show has ever had, unless the DVR numbers prove to be miraculous. But I'm sure we'll have the Whedon fanboys whining how ABC never gave it a chance once they ax it.
Indeed. Watching from a fairly uneducated point of view when it comes to Marvel characters, none of teh big reveals work in the Tips' household. We all just go "Death who?" "Lorelei? Who's she?" "Oh I vaguely remember that character who had no lines from Thor".
The dynamics between the characters of the Shield Agents are non-existent.
Firefly hit the ground running with engaging, liekable but flawed, characters with conflicting agendas. Shield seems like it's plot and tie-in driven and the plots aren't good enough for me and the tie-ins don't hit the mark with us.
We are still watching - but only just - and when we have a choice of different stuff on catch-Up, it comes a far fourth after TOMORROW PEOPLE, MUSKETEERS (yes, even that!) and GARDENER'S WORLD.
I'm probably just being overly-critical, but I'm fairly sure that 17 episodes in, I shouldn't be thinking "they'll find their feet any day now." I care not a jot about any of these characters, the plots are really generic, the cast is really, really flat - seriously, I know he's been in the films, but away from the deadpan schtick of the humourless G-man of the Iron Mans, Caulson has zero charisma as a lead - and there might be someone somewhere who didn't see the heel turn of the least-developed cast member who had been replaced in that very episode with an identical character, but they weren't in this house at the time.
Based on how persistently unexceptional and dull the show is, I haven't a clue how Joss Whedon's brother keeps getting high-profile work like this. It's a real puzzler.
I'm gonna stick with it in the hope that it does truly get better as we approach the teens, but not hugely impressed so far.
And Tips - TOMORROW PEOPLE? Really? I've watched a couple of these and it's not only a crap retread of the'good looking teens pursued by shadowy black-ops organisation' cliche, it insults the memory of one of my favourite childhood shows.
There have been some episodes that have been very enjoyable and others that have fallen flat. I don't think it has found its feet yet and hopefully it can before it gets cancelled. Coulson is great in this and is more than just a po-faced character. Melinda May is starting to develop and there have been some good moments with her dry wit style. I even like the comedy duo - Fitz and Simmons. However, Ward and Skye are still not working and as wooden as ever. I don't know if this is down to the actors or the scripts they are given but something needs to improve with these two.
Beyond that, it does sometimes look like the special effects are cheap and it seems to assume that everyone is familiar with every minor detail of the Marvel universe. Yeah, we have all got internet access nowadays so its only a google away but I think this reflects the dual-personality of the series - is this a family friendly action TV show for the kids or just fan service for middle-aged men? I would like to think it was the former but it keeps portraying itself as the latter.
It's not the special effects being cheap that aggravates me - every interior set is identical, a low-lit concrete room with no windows. It's all dark hallways, dark labs, dark control rooms. Compare the interiors of The Hub to the interiors of that 40-story building in the Captain America movie. One looks like the real world, the other looks like the sets chosen for a college film project. It's like they spent all their money on Bill Paxton or something.
really loving this and really loving Paxton in it, its finally linking to the Marvel movie universe proper finally and maybe it'll start to fulfil it's promise of being a weekly ink to the MArvel movie universe now.
Beaqr is right though, Coulson just is not that interesting away from the movies and would rather see more of The cavalry and Sky (I know lots of people hate hher but could be interesting where they go). Oh and I believe it's possibly a Kree in the tube which may just have a link in with the Guardians of the Galaxy movie due out soon.
CU Radbacker
Quote from: Dandontdare on 15 April, 2014, 01:11:37 PM
And Tips - TOMORROW PEOPLE? Really? I've watched a couple of these and it's not only a crap retread of the'good looking teens pursued by shadowy black-ops organisation' cliche, it insults the memory of one of my favourite childhood shows.
It's Tiny Tips' choice but neither he nor I have seen (m)any "good looking teens pursued by black-ops" shows and he was too young (and UI never watched) the original to have a memory insulted.
Plus I genuinely think it has more character drama than Shield does.
But Bill Paxton was great.
Just saw episode from last Friday. That was good!
Quality surge as SHIELD ties in with Cap 2.
I think [spoiler]Ward's betrayal[/spoiler] seems out of place given in the same episode its revealed, he shoots a bunch of Hydra guys (though I think they may be their special stun bullets?) however it has made the show interesting. As Jim Steranko said this show needed tension and danger, suddenly it has some.
Plus I can't believe I'm seeing Deadlok on screen even if I wanted something less tragic for Gunn Petersen.
The quality of AoS is being maintained now with the last 4 episodes to go :D
Not sure which episode number we saw last night [spoiler](it had Deathlock and Brad Dourif as the Clairvoyant (or was he?)[/spoiler] but that was a bit more like it. The plot has got slightly
The main characters are still as ever (Coulson, Ward and May just blank slates, Fitz, Simmons and Skye just annoying) but the secondary characters liven things up no end. Bill Paxton should be leading the series with his brilliant "wolrd weary/seen it/done it all but still cracking smiles" attitude. And Tripplett has an easy charm missing from the other Agents. Nice touch with the other agent (McCarthy?) being [spoiler]smart enough to put a tracer on Deathlock rather than just being [/spoiler] cannon fodder.
But now that somebody has pointed out how dreary the locations are, I can't help noticing that.
Mrs Tips thinks that me and Tiny Tips are being too harsh on it. Probably true.
Now watch this UK episode tonight, it link to the Winter Soldier, could be interesting to watch of what happens after?
What? Agent Hand[spoiler] is not Hydra? [/spoiler] only 30 mins to go, this episode is excellent!
I know the series was slowest burning but worth it to the end. Brilliant!
Whoa!
That was so brilliant episode! So [spoiler]is he or he was? [/spoiler] And [spoiler]Bill Paxton[/spoiler] is damn great casting in the series!
And I like that [spoiler]SHIELD logo just change into HYDRA logo! [/spoiler]
Please don't click on it if you hadn't see UK episode yet!
Great final image!
http://i.imgur.com/5ud3mHY.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/5ud3mHY.jpg)
Nice! 8-)
The last episode had [spoiler]so many twists and turns, huge reveals and world changing events[/spoiler]...and yet...it all felt so pedestrian.
In my opinion.
Not sure how that works.
I agree, but expectations for this show from fans have been so high. As the producers stated we cant expect a Marvel movie each episode. I personally have enjoyed the whole series so far, pretty good family entertainment.
On a final note, .... [spoiler]Swamp Thing! [/spoiler]
In my last post I meant to say, . . . [spoiler]ManThing![/spoiler] :-[
Promising opening, nice to see it with [spoiler]aftermath of the Winter Soldier[/spoiler].
Great news as thanks to 2nd half of the season, it getting official renewal for season 2. :)
Flipping hurrar! Until we see Dredd2 this is my fav thing to watch :)
I would never have guessed that I would ever say the same thing after the first few episodes convinced it was always going to be nothing but fluff with a mild connection that compelled me to watch.
However everything since episode 16 has been really good. Particularly when making use of Bill Paxton.
Yeah. I was one who drunkenly huffed off this thread earlier in frustration but the missus insist we carry on (or rather - I just didn't leave the room when she watched it because I'm lazy) and it slowly has gotten a lot stronger. That one recently where [spoiler]Skye is trapped in the secret base[/spoiler] really illustrates the problem though - that [spoiler]B-plot where the rest of them were all fannying about with Coulson's love interest[/spoiler] was cheesy as hell and reeallly horrible but the Skye section was enthralling and tense.
Yet the next episode after that (and to the end of the series) they've been right on target and not meandering and there's continuity cake and good action bits - [spoiler]when the flying car thing happened I squealed like a hog[/spoiler] and I started to think "maybe, despite what I originally thought this has been worth all the crap". But I mean - there was A LOT of crap and it kind of irritates me that BY sharpening it up now they're showing they intentionally weren't doing it earlier - which is risky business. Were it not for the multi-million movie franchise and DisneyMarvel Money they'd be toast. Dead toast.
If you ignore the network telly cheese and just look at it as an achievement though it's pretty damned impressive. Can't imagine it happening in any other decade - several major blockbuster movies also tying into an on-going TV series? That's pretty amazing. I have to say I've been turned around and I did think right at the start "hopefully this is going to be one of those 'the first season is kind of flat but stick with it' type shows"
UNLESS IT ISN'T.
Agent Carter series announced!
Hayley Atwell in 40's garb? *sigh* if one must.
I mumped my gums at the start too, but i now like how they have went[spoiler] for the full throttle destruct mode[/spoiler], yes there's bit that annoy (take the flying car don't walk!) but given who turns out to be the[spoiler] double agent [/spoiler] and the tie ins its all good telly.
Been a bit cautious about coming onto this thread as we're watching it on Channel 4 so might be a little behind some folk, but the last couple of weeks we've been loving it round my bit. It's been coasting for a while, but always a fun enough little diversion every week, but me and Amy were really excited when the big reveals started happening and I have to say getting together on the couch to sit and watch the show weekly has been lovely. With everything else we watch being Netflix we're pretty wishy washy about when we watch stuff so having something that's the same time every week that we're both excited to see is really nice, and regardless of the quality of the episodes is a bit of a highlight of my week.
Bit mushy, but there you go.
With the eteranl optimism of the perennially disappointed I say to you "YAY! Agent Carter - the Agents of Shield series we all wanted in the first place!!"
This will ROCK!!
Of course, [spoiler]who else Fury pick to be project leader for TAHITI![/spoiler]
That's nice twist! Great Episode and love the car scene!
Quote from: Goaty on 16 May, 2014, 08:56:31 PM
Of course, [spoiler]who else Fury pick to be project leader for TAHITI![/spoiler]
That's nice twist! Great Episode and love the car scene!
Inded very enjoyable
I only ever watched the first episode - you mean I have to watch it now?? I just watched Cap America:winter soldier - it was great. I'm guessing it will have to have an impact on this series, though?
Cheers
Dave
Yep—direct crossover. SHIELD's actually quite good now. Quite the surprise.
Gag Reel exclusive from SDCC (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AChRDc6t2g)
New billboard for Season 2.
(http://i.imgur.com/19tk7Kt.jpg)
WOW, awesome!
It would be very clever if the climax of Coulson's mental issues are instrumental in the build-up to the new avengers film...
You could be right, Bolt-01.
I avoided this thread because I was typically a couple of weeks behind on the show, but the way it found its feet and tied into Winter Soldier in very, very cool and surprising ways was great telly.
The finale was great too, I know a lot of people who ditched this mid-season which is a shame because it really came together.
I agree with Keef, lucky I stay with the show, and it went so brilliant after Winter Soldier.
The highlight was the the Bill Paxton. [spoiler]His last scene was soooooooo funny![/spoiler]
It was truly dire to begin with but became extremely watchable as the events of the Winter Soldier entirely changed the team's staid, boring dynamics.
New poster for Series 2;
(http://i.imgur.com/vYnmTzY.jpg)
Yes, starts tonight!! :D
TV is starting to look good again. Shield, The Strain, Gotham, The Flash (possibly), Constantine, Walking Dead. Plus probably loads more that I have already forgotten!
Quote from: Goaty on 22 September, 2014, 08:50:10 PM
New poster for Series 2;
(http://i.imgur.com/vYnmTzY.jpg)
Jock and Andy Diggle should sue!
Very solid start.
A NAMED MARVEL VILLAIN APPEARS AS WELL AND IT'S ONLY FUCKING [spoiler]CRUSHER CREEL[/spoiler]
Lots of ham and silliness as per but there's an undeniably dark current right from the off that's very edible. Hope it continues in this vein!
Veiny ham with dark currants? Yum?
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 28 September, 2014, 03:58:30 PM
Very solid start.
A NAMED MARVEL VILLAIN APPEARS AS WELL AND IT'S ONLY FUCKING [spoiler]CRUSHER CREEL[/spoiler]
Lots of ham and silliness as per but there's an undeniably dark current right from the off that's very edible. Hope it continues in this vein!
[spoiler]The Absorbing Man?[/spoiler]
Hurry up C4 for it be here!
Solid return for the show's second season, although apparently the ratings haven't been quite as high as they would have liked. Shame, as I feel there is definitely room for improvement as it becomes more established.
Here are the reviews from my blog:
Episode 2x01 - "Shadows"
http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/09/review-agents-of-shield-2x01-shadows.html (http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/09/review-agents-of-shield-2x01-shadows.html)
Episode 2x02 - "Heavy is the Head"
http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/10/review-agents-of-shield-2x02-heavy-is.html (http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/10/review-agents-of-shield-2x02-heavy-is.html)
Cheers,
Pop Culture Bandit
Bah humbug - ! Shame it's losing ratings as this series has been what it should have been at the start of last year (although - obviously the strength of the start of this 'un is entirely due to the character-building of the first season). We're getting named Marvel characters, a whole-load of "where is this going I wonder" and a whallop of solid acting (particularly Iain De Caestecker's Fitz who was always engaging before but is now amazing).
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 13 October, 2014, 09:34:36 PM
Iain De Caestecker's Fitz who was always engaging before but is now amazing).
Thought his reaction to [spoiler]meeting Ward again[/spoiler] was a superb piece of acting.
Dunk!
First two episodes ten times better than 90% of what came before.
Quote from: T.a.H. link=topic=38531.msg848531#msg848531 date=1413271483
Thought his reaction to [spoilermeeting Ward again[/spoiler] was a superb piece of acting.
Arr not just that which was astonishing but his whole [spoiler]ailment[/spoiler] is pitched tremendously well - the guy has serious chops.
Do'h! C4 Friday 24th October for us streamdriven TV types :(
Must avoid this thread til then
Here's my latest review:
Episode 2x03 - "Making Friends and Influencing People"
http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/10/review-agents-of-shield-2x03-making.html (http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/10/review-agents-of-shield-2x03-making.html)
I totally agree with CrazyFoxMachine and T.a.H - really enjoying Iain De Caestecker's new take on Fitz, especially in this episode when he [spoiler]met Ward. In fact, Brett Dalton's Ward has improved dramatically as well.[/spoiler]
Another superb episode, possibly the best one yet out of the twenty-five aired so far!
Even that arcetypal Mary-Sue Skye has improved a little - !
Although the most recent episode (4) [spoiler]was a bit of a duffer where we spent the majority of the episode watching Agent May in ever decreasing clothing for whatever reason - I can't see myself getting bored of the Hydra/SHIELD cat-and-mouse yet though, and there were moments in this episode that were genuinely very funny.[/spoiler] A really surprisingly solid season so far.. but the ratings are still going down...
Here's my latest review:
Episode 2x04 - "Face My Enemy"
http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/10/review-agents-of-shield-2x04-face-my.html (http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/10/review-agents-of-shield-2x04-face-my.html)
Pretty fun episode, which reminded me of 'Chuck' in some places with its frothy, lightweight look at undercover spies. Some pretty excellent fight scenes too - plus the afore-mentioned [spoiler]under-dressed Agent May[/spoiler]
I am in total MCU viewing mode at the moment. Over the last two weeks I have screened all the movies and One-Shots in chronological order (starting with Captain America: The First Avenger due to it being set in the 1940s) up to season one of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. with breaks for Thor: The Dark World and Captain America: The Winter Soldier in between episodes. Maybe I am suffering the onset of Coulson-blindness but this show rocks, I don't care that they had to spin their wheels until CA:TWS had done its business. I am genuinely loving the shit out of AoS right now and season two looks even better. I just wonder what they have in store next year to build up to Avengers: Age Of Ultron.
Was nice to see the face-changing tech in Cap 2 get a callback, even if the Agents seemed entirely surprised at its existence. This show is much better now but there are some holes, perhaps Age of Ultron can fill them with a line of dialogue (i.e. where are the Avengers when supervillains cause destruction? Easily explained but this is the stuff Cap would be doing.)
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 27 October, 2014, 10:09:23 AM
Was nice to see the face-changing tech in Cap 2 get a callback, even if the Agents seemed entirely surprised at its existence. This show is much better now but there are some holes, perhaps Age of Ultron can fill them with a line of dialogue (i.e. where are the Avengers when supervillains cause destruction? Easily explained but this is the stuff Cap would be doing.)
Fighting other (more expensive) supervillians? :D
Thor v Crusher Creel... that's all I wanted!
Quote from: Proudhuff on 15 October, 2014, 10:21:01 AM
Do'h! C4 Friday 24th October for us streamdriven TV types :(
Must avoid this thread til then
eeek! missed this due to a hectic social life, (well one night out) will catchup asap...
just discovered (late as usual) Agent Peggy Carter to get her own series and a pop up in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D:
Peggy Carter will again show her face with the present day 'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' before her 2015 debut. Find out what brings Peggy back into the mix for November 18 'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' episode, "The Things We Bury!"
Per Marvel's official press release from the November 18 hour ('Agents' will sit out this week for the 75-year retrospective, returning with November 11′s "The Writing on the Wall"), Agent Carter herself will pop up, we'd expect as another flashback to introduce aspects of the Hydra mystery, as well as preview the forthcoming series. Also worth noting is that "The Things We Bury" seems to bring in Lou Ferrigno Jr. for a minor role, as well as 'Dollhouse' vet Dichen Lachman.
Read More: 'Agents of SHIELD': Peggy Carter Returns November 18 | http://screencrush.com/agents-of-shield-peggy-carter-hayley-atwell-things-we-bury-november-18/?trackback=tsmclip
Hmm. Just realised we know Peggy survives till 2014 thanks to Cap 2. Always feel it takes some of the bite out of things when you're dead certain about something like that (though obviously we all know Dredd will make it to next issue etc, it's a little different in my head).
And Peggy will be in Avengers 2...
Quote from: Pop Culture Bandit on 17 October, 2014, 04:18:51 PM
Here's my latest review:
Episode 2x03 - "Making Friends and Influencing People"
http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/10/review-agents-of-shield-2x03-making.html (http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/10/review-agents-of-shield-2x03-making.html)
I totally agree with CrazyFoxMachine and T.a.H - really enjoying Iain De Caestecker's new take on Fitz, especially in this episode when he [spoiler]met Ward. In fact, Brett Dalton's Ward has improved dramatically as well.[/spoiler]
Another superb episode, possibly the best one yet out of the twenty-five aired so far!
Well this is as far as cooncil TV has got and you know what? I enjoyed this more than Dr Who this weekend, lower expectations? possibly, but there is a feeling this has been thought through rather than throwing everything at the wall and hope some s*** sticks.
Sneak peeks at this thread show that this quailty continues too.
Season 1 on Netflix US now, worth to watch 2nd half of it, better from Episode 14, "T.A.H.I.T.I."
That weird aliens drawings? It is [spoiler]a map[/spoiler]!
I think the drawings may be connected the the Inhumans.
It's the city-plan from Stickleback by the looks of it!
There's a crossover I would love to see suddenly arrive out of nowhere
Funny thing, I think HYRDA does saved the Agents of SHIELD TV series!
Quote from: Dandontdare on 21 November, 2014, 04:38:57 PM
It's the city-plan from Stickleback by the looks of it!
Funny that crossed mind mind too.
New Review
Episode 2x05 - "A Hen in the Wolfhouse"
http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/10/review-agents-of-shield-2x05-hen-in.html (http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/10/review-agents-of-shield-2x05-hen-in.html)
This episode sees another Marvel Comics import in the form of [spoiler]Mockingbird[/spoiler], although it's a bit early to decide whether I like [spoiler]her[/spoiler] or not. I think as a season this series seems to be cohesive than the previous one which definitely felt split into two halves of differing quality. I'm quite liking how the various season-long arcs are mixing together with [spoiler]Skye's Father joining up with Hydra to possess the alien artifact[/spoiler].
some great foreshadowing here, enjoyable tosh.
After largely abandoning this half way through the first series like everyone else, and then picking it back up right at the end, I'm starting to get back into Agents of SHIELD, and I enjoyed this episode. The arrival of [spoiler]Mockingbird[/spoiler] will hopefully be a shot in the arm for the show - it's good to have a proper [spoiler]Avenger[/spoiler] in the series, and [spoiler]she cuts a statuesque figure, towering over Coulson.[/spoiler]
So, is Skye's father an existing Marvel character? Much as I'd like him to be [spoiler]Maximus the Mad[/spoiler], I suspect they're saving him for the [spoiler]Inhumans[/spoiler] movie.
New Review
Episode 2x06 - "A Fractured House"
http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/11/review-agents-of-shield-2x06-fractured.html (http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/11/review-agents-of-shield-2x06-fractured.html)
I don't believe for a second that [spoiler]Senator Ward[/spoiler] is a good guy and actually suspect [spoiler]him as being responsible for the attack on the United Nations to discredit SHIELD[/spoiler]. It's nice to see Ward doing something different, instead of languishing in a prison cell doing his best Hannibal Lecter impression with Skye. For the keen-eyed viewer, there was another Marvel Comics cameo from the original [spoiler]Whiplash[/spoiler].
New Reviews!
Episode 2x07 - "The Writing on the Wall"
http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/11/review-agents-of-shield-2x07-writing-on.html (http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/11/review-agents-of-shield-2x07-writing-on.html)
Episode 2x08 - "The Things We Bury"
http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/11/review-agents-of-shield-2x08-things-we.html (http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/11/review-agents-of-shield-2x08-things-we.html)
Episode 2x09 - "...Ye Who Enter Here"
http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/12/review-agents-of-shield-2x09-ye-who.html (http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/12/review-agents-of-shield-2x09-ye-who.html)
Things seem to be moving quickly towards the mid-season finale, especially with the revelation that the [spoiler]alien symbols[/spoiler] are actually a [spoiler]map to a secret city[/spoiler], presumably [spoiler]Attilan[/spoiler]. I'm guessing things are heading towards [spoiler]Inhuman[/spoiler] territory, which should see more super-powered threats pop up in the near future.
And the mid-season finale...
Episode 2x10 - "What They Become"
http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/12/review-agents-of-shield-2x10-what-they.html (http://www.popculturebandit.co.uk/2014/12/review-agents-of-shield-2x10-what-they.html)
This episode lived up to the hype and delivered some nice status quo changing surprises, namely the reveal that [spoiler]Skye and her Father were Daisy Johnson (Quake) and Calvin Zabo (Mister Hyde)[/spoiler] as well as the [spoiler]shock death of Daniel Whitehall[/spoiler]. While it was light on the special effects and action sequences, the sheer weight of the reveals here really did this mid-season finale justice and whetted the appetite for the show's return in March next year.
My bet is Whitehall has hidden gifts. And that Hyde will finally back up the big mouth (thus far limited to sounding threatening but being totally ineffectual, to the point that just carrying a gun would be a big step up).
I do quite like the ineffectual nature of Mister Hyde, but yeah, if he is going to become the villain of the season, they need to show him "hulking out" somewhat.
I think Whitehall is gone though, but hopefully, this will lead towards Ward taking his place as a high-ranking Hydra leader...although things haven't gone over all that well for the previous two men in that role.
It was great first half of season!
But dumb question, after all Marvels powers and suits, what is [spoiler]inhumans[/spoiler]?
Goaty- from the top of my head and possibly full of wrong.
The Inhumans are a group of Homo-sap that have Kree blood in them. They use a deus ex called the terragen mists to trigger meta-human abilities in themselves.
The Inhumans were created by Stan & Jack for the FF, I believe and after initially living in the himalayas they moved to the moon.
The reason we are getting them in SHIELD is to do with the whole 'no mutants' deal as mutants are with the X-men.
[spoiler]Was Skye's Dad Mr Hyde in the comics?[/spoiler] [spoiler]And no live for poor Triplet? His death was nasty.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 30 December, 2014, 10:13:19 AM
[spoiler]Was Skye's Dad Mr Hyde in the comics?[/spoiler]
Skye appears to be [spoiler]Daisy Johnson / Quake, who is indeed Mr Hyde's daughter in the comics.[/spoiler]
Re: The Inhumans - as Bolt says, Marvel can't use mutants in tv / films, as Fox owns the rights, so using the Inhumans has become a kind of backdoor way to do a similar concept. Although the Inhumans originated in the FF (whose cinematic rights are also owned by Fox) they've headlined their own series several times, which seems to establish them as a separate entity.
Quote from: Greg M. on 30 December, 2014, 10:46:07 AM
Re: The Inhumans - as Bolt says, Marvel can't use mutants in tv / films, as Fox owns the rights, so using the Inhumans has become a kind of backdoor way to do a similar concept. Although the Inhumans originated in the FF (whose cinematic rights are also owned by Fox) they've headlined their own series several times, which seems to establish them as a separate entity.
No matter how hard Marvel push
The Inhumans I'll just never take to them. *
They're just an inherently inferior concept to the X-Men- they don't have the characters, the history, the decades long popularity.
Even in the context of 'The Marvel Universe' they just seemed a bit, for lack of a better word, goofy.
Give me the X-Men
any day over The Inhumans- and I don't even read X-Men comics anymore (that will probably change when Bendis jogs on).
* The Paul Jenkins / Jae Lee Marvel Knights series from '98 obviously not included in my sweeping negativity.
Quote from: Link Prime on 30 December, 2014, 12:13:23 PM
No matter how hard Marvel push The Inhumans I'll just never take to them. *
They're just an inherently inferior concept to the X-Men- they don't have the characters, the history, the decades long popularity.
Even in the context of 'The Marvel Universe' they just seemed a bit, for lack of a better word, goofy.
I like the Inhumans in their original incarnation - a bunch of weird Kirby characters who form the royal family of a society of outcasts. One of the first Marvel stories I ever read as a kid involved Hulk hanging out with a bunch of rebel Inhumans in Attilan, so I'll always have a soft spot for 'em.
But... as a replacement for the X-Men - hell, no. I'm sure Marvel would be disposing of the X-Men outright (as if having Bendis write 'em wasn't effectively the same thing!) if they thought they could (see: Fantastic Four), but I suspect they still sell too many comics and have too much fan fondness for them to be entirely flushed. Instead, they've been downgraded and homogenized.
Quote from: Greg M. on 30 December, 2014, 12:24:24 PM
I like the Inhumans in their original incarnation - a bunch of weird Kirby characters who form the royal family of a society of outcasts. One of the first Marvel stories I ever read as a kid involved Hulk hanging out with a bunch of rebel Inhumans in Attilan, so I'll always have a soft spot for 'em.
No such nostalgia for me Greg, by the time I read any comics (significantly) featuring the Inhumans I was already a sneery teenager.
Series 2 resumes this Friday on C4 in the UK.
Quote from: Pyroxian on 23 March, 2015, 10:07:21 AM
Series 2 resumes this Friday on C4 in the UK.
Thanks for posting that - totally forgotten that the last episode wasn't actually an end-season finale.
The Inhumans have too much mythological baggage to be effective mutant replacements. No spontaneous burning down of your school by accident if you need terrigen mists.
I'm going to miss tonight's ep, anyone know when the repeat is on? The C4 website is a carcrash - impossible to find simple scheduling info.
Sunday morning , 1 AM , Channel 4, if memory serves me well
Quote from: Dandontdare on 10 April, 2015, 06:51:35 PM
I'm going to miss tonight's ep, anyone know when the repeat is on?
Could you not programme your VCR to record said show at the appropriate time? I hear all the smart kids are favouring Betamax cassettes these days...
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 11 April, 2015, 09:46:33 AM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 10 April, 2015, 06:51:35 PM
I'm going to miss tonight's ep, anyone know when the repeat is on?
Could you not programme your VCR to record said show at the appropriate time? I hear all the smart kids are favouring Betamax cassettes these days...
Cheers
Jim
sarky cunt!. Unfortunately, my digital recorder won't record things if I'm not in the house to programme it. I wasn't getting home till later last night, so this wasn't an option.
So recording the series?
Quote from: Goaty on 11 April, 2015, 11:26:33 AM
So recording the series?
Yes, so I can watch it while Family is asleep!!!
Wow that was great first half of Season 3 after the midseason finale.
Nice touch about HYDRA, [spoiler]that it wasn't start by Red Skull, it was 2,000 years old as start of worship for evil Inhuman! [/spoiler]
Just to pop back on here to say the last episode aired 'Parting Shot' featured the most hilariously crow-barred in set up for a spin-off I've ever seen. It's like that episode of Golden Girls where they turned it into a pilot for 'Empty Nests' (DON'T PRETEND THAT'S NOT A REFERENCE EVERYBODY GETS. I FUCKING LOVE THE GOLDEN GIRLS). It was almost poetically beautiful in how completely dumb it was.
[spoiler]A requisite for Hunter & Mockingbird escaping imprisonment and death for appearing to have killed members of the Russian government was simply that they were NEVER TO COMMUNICATE WITH SHIELD AGAIN (to presumably cut down on crossover cameos in their new show) but their final farewell scene involved them sitting in a bar and being delivered shots by all the members of SHIELD who are sat in the shadows drinking alone. They all raise their glasses at the same time. Then get up and leave. AT THE SAME TIME. The chokingly emotional tone of the scene combined with the maddeningly illogical stupidity of it is American syndicated TV in a nutshell and was utterly stunning to witness.[/spoiler]
Empty Nest had a spin-off called Golden Girls?
Hunter and Mockingbird are okay as part of the SHIELD ensemble, but this episode showed that when they're center-screen for prolonged periods of time they are fucking unbearable - which is ideally something you don't want to draw attention to just before you give them their own spin-off replacing a much-loved (if not much-watched) show like Agent Carter. It is - I believe the kids say - tay sucks-oars.
Well - I don't think it's even been commissioned for a series yet :S We'll just see them sheepishly pop back into Agents if it doesn't work out, I'm sure ::)
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 26 March, 2016, 12:12:17 PM
It's like that episode of Golden Girls where they turned it into a pilot for 'Empty Nests' (DON'T PRETEND THAT'S NOT A REFERENCE EVERYBODY GETS. I FUCKING LOVE THE GOLDEN GIRLS).
None of THESE (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=golden+girls+tattoo&espv=2&biw=1390&bih=1027&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjW9oLiv97LAhWBrhQKHWFdDSsQ_AUIBigB) is you is it?
I might have said this somewhere before in this thread but, out of all the comic book TV shows that are clogging up the schedules, AoS remains my very favourite.
So ... nobody has found anything to say about the 18 or so episodes of Season 4?
Tonight after far too long I've decided to pack it in - probably should have done in the first year tbh! The whole season has been building to a [spoiler]"What If" scenario and by fuck if it isn't the most boring thing I've ever seen. How does a show make a mirror episode it's lowest ebb? Criminal behavior really - and they've made the decision to 'desaturate' the evil universe, so it's hoorrrible looking like a modern DC movie. Everything is a pallid Gollum's-skin tone and nothing's really happening and I'm like[/spoiler]... bleh.
It's cheap, it's schlocky but my god Legends of Tomorrow makes Agents look like an absolute waste of space. With their budget they've already had colossal superhero battles and universe-bending paradoxes, they even had a "what if" episode the other-week and it had a massive explosive finale. It was dumb as balls but my god at least it was fun. Agents - you set yourself up an entire [spoiler]constructed universe WHERE ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN and you made it both dumb AND BORING[/spoiler] and that's a cannable offense. Thanks for the memories. Those I can remember.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UMzNCRFfhss/VvTagyy8GBI/AAAAAAAAMw0/FMnwJ-L58B4qVCbSm6LVF0I82RQfVNYkw/s1600/partingshot2.gif)
I have not watched it since Season 3, but that & season 2 was certainly the most I have ever enjoyed an Inhumans storyline that wasn't just Lockjaw messing around with the Power Pack or the FF.
Two episodes of Flaming Skulls and I had had enough CrazyFox is spot on... I enjoyed the whole dark evil matter stuff, but to re-jig everything for Ghostrider, or whatever was a crime.