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Title: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: NapalmKev on 03 August, 2019, 02:33:07 PM
Cover by Tiernon Trevallion.

Thrill of the future - Slaine, The Web Of Weird.

Dredd continues to thrill and we have a bit of history concerning Judge Pin. Stunning artwork.

Indigo Prime gets a bit violent and has some lovely otherworld versions of cinematic monsters. Great series, hope it continues for many years to come!

Anderson is still going.

Thistlebone is all kinds of quality. Will be sad to see the end of it and judging by the way the story is going I'm guessing it will be a one and done kind of tale. The optimist in me is eagerly awaiting this series in a glorious hardcover featuring art prints.

Absalom... So long, farewell, Auf Wiedersehen, Goodbye! The old man gives one last flick of the V's and... no, I'll say no more. Just read it!

Outstanding Prog!

Cheers



Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Richard on 03 August, 2019, 02:48:53 PM
Excellent front and back covers, excellent ending for Absolom.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 03 August, 2019, 03:42:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/OIQTqcm.jpg)

Another slightly dodgy scan I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Pete Wells on 03 August, 2019, 04:02:07 PM
Quote from: Richard on 03 August, 2019, 02:48:53 PM
Excellent front and back covers, excellent ending for Absolom.

I'm tentatively calling this cover the year, it works beautifully with the back cover.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: glassstanley on 03 August, 2019, 06:28:04 PM
Excellent prog. Wonderful final ep for Absalom. A very human tale in the end.

The flashback in Dredd was excellent. Love that his helmet seems to small for his head again. Thistlebone is making more sense after a re-read. Enjoying seeing Karyn's story moving forwards in Anderson.

Indigo Prime? Still not got a clue and still  not in a good John Smith kind of way.

And yes, an outstanding cover.

<flicks the Vs>
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Woolly on 03 August, 2019, 08:19:43 PM
Damn shame that the subscriber prog comes with the back cover exposed...
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Leigh S on 03 August, 2019, 10:07:13 PM
Good prog, but interested in what people thought of Tharg's comment that 2000AD is an antidote to grim reality - I suppose an antidote isnt an escape, but does 2000AD innoculate you from the horror, or should it stir up the horror?
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: geronimo on 03 August, 2019, 10:33:53 PM
Quote from: Leigh S on 03 August, 2019, 10:07:13 PM
Good prog, but interested in what people thought of Tharg's comment that 2000AD is an antidote to grim reality - I suppose an antidote isnt an escape, but does 2000AD innoculate you from the horror, or should it stir up the horror?

What of the horror that is Brexit!!! :o
Has the mighty Tharg planned for this? how will we in neighbouring countries be able to receive our paper proggage if the harbours are closed, the trucks are trapped and the ships are stalled? For 42 years we have never had a crisis of thrillpower supply like this one! :crazy:
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2019, 11:17:03 PM
Quote from: geronimo on 03 August, 2019, 10:33:53 PMWhat of the horror that is Brexit!!! :o
Has the mighty Tharg planned for this? how will we in neighbouring countries be able to receive our paper proggage if the harbours are closed, the trucks are trapped and the ships are stalled? For 42 years we have never had a crisis of thrillpower supply like this one! :crazy:

Shipped to the north of Ireland and from there smuggled by drone across the porous border, then shipped to the rest of the planet.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: geronimo on 04 August, 2019, 08:24:17 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2019, 11:17:03 PM
Quote from: geronimo on 03 August, 2019, 10:33:53 PMWhat of the horror that is Brexit!!! :o
Has the mighty Tharg planned for this? how will we in neighbouring countries be able to receive our paper proggage if the harbours are closed, the trucks are trapped and the ships are stalled? For 42 years we have never had a crisis of thrillpower supply like this one! :crazy:

Shipped to the north of Ireland and from there smuggled by drone across the porous border, then shipped to the rest of the planet.

My mate has a drone so that's taken care of. So we just need to connect with Pat Mills in Spain and with his contacts in the French comic scene we could cover a lot of Europe.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: IndigoPrime on 04 August, 2019, 09:00:29 AM
On Brexit, in a serious sense, many graphic novels are printed in Malta and Spain. At the very least, expect prices to shoot up as sterling continues to tank.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: geronimo on 04 August, 2019, 09:22:29 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 04 August, 2019, 09:00:29 AM
On Brexit, in a serious sense, many graphic novels are printed in Malta and Spain. At the very least, expect prices to shoot up as sterling continues to tank.

Maybe Boris should do a trade deal with Amazon! ::)
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Magnetica on 04 August, 2019, 11:04:13 AM
Maybe I'm being thick but what is the deal with [spoiler]Harry's grand kids not having aged?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: IndigoPrime on 04 August, 2019, 11:17:58 AM
I'm not sure. Perhaps [spoiler]they were in a kind of stasis, rather than having lived out years in a horrific place – or perhaps it's a final twist of the knife[/spoiler].
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Richard on 04 August, 2019, 11:33:21 AM
QuoteDamn shame that the subscriber prog comes with the back cover exposed...

Not really. Firstly, it would be the same if you bought it in a shop. Secondly, I think it works very well [spoiler]as a nice bit of misdirection. You see it, you think Harry survives and gets a happy ending, then when you read the episode you discover that he actually died, and that final page means something else entirely.[/spoiler]

The bit about [spoiler]the grandkids not ageing[/spoiler] wasn't fully explained, but there was that comment about [spoiler]a final twist of the knife or whatever (when they were talking about the faked photos of them ageing),[/spoiler] so I just thought it was some nasty trick by the demons, so I didn't question it.

(It would have been even nastier if [spoiler]thry had aged rapidly instead and were Harry's age![/spoiler]

Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 04 August, 2019, 12:50:15 PM
I hope we get an Absalom epilogue at some point. This felt like a very hasty end to a marvellous series. Is something happening next prog that meant Harry's game had to wrap up in a hurry?

Also is there a word redacted from one of the speech bubbles? What sort of fidler shakes at a Brownie pack meeting?
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: moly on 04 August, 2019, 01:16:02 PM
Also is there a word redacted from one of the speech bubbles? What sort of fidler shakes at a Brownie pack meeting?

Kiddie
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: MumboJimbo on 04 August, 2019, 02:39:59 PM
I was ever-so-slightly disappointed by this week's prog. Once I'd had a flick though and saw that the prog was packed with content (no adverts! - except if you count the Slaine preview at the bottom of the Nerve Centre) I had incredibly high expectations, especially coming on the back of last week's excellent prog - so maybe it was inevitable I'd end up feeling a little underwhelmed after reading it.

Dredd was top notch, no complaints there.

Indigo Prime was the first episode that for me felt like it wasn't really sure where the series was going. We get a page spread of these three Super-Kaiju monsters only them to be dispatched by Redman fairly quickly. I guess it works as a means to demonstrate the powers of Christhulu, but it felt a bit like stalling to me. Still very much enjoying this series and I'm keeping the faith.

The last page of Anderson completely lost me. If I think I've got this right [spoiler]the cult members opened fire on Anderson and Karyn shielded her, so presumably she is impervious to bullets when she's a vampire. And then Karyn tries to kill in the cult members in revenge, but Anderson stops her and because of this Karyn switches her loyalty back to Theo.[/spoiler] If I've got that all right it's done in a confusingly small amount of panels and I'm struggling to understand Karyn's motivations. The Theo flashback didn't really make much sense to me either.

Thistlebone seems to be entering its final act, and the main protagonist meeting the main antagonist with a "I knew you'd come" reveal seems a bit seen-it-all-before. I was far more interested in the cat and mouse between Avril and Seema, and whether one or both of them are acting in bad faith. So this week seems like it could be turn for the worse, although I'll keep reading.

Finally the Absalom finale was satisfying in places, but there was simply not enough space to tie up the 5 or so loose ends all satisfactorily, and for me the reconnection with his grandkids definitely suffered the most. And they really needed to nail that considering the foreshadowing and how central to the plot it was.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Frank on 04 August, 2019, 06:41:02 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/olMZ2GY.png?1)


Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: ZenArcade on 05 August, 2019, 09:38:05 AM
Nice cover, By Christhulu, I miss John Smith. Z
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: U.S.S.R on 05 August, 2019, 03:32:06 PM
I loved the cover front and back, worked brilliantly I try think
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Richard on 05 August, 2019, 07:25:14 PM
I don't want an Absolom epilogue; it would detract from this week's ending, which was perfect.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: MacabreMagpie on 07 August, 2019, 08:54:44 AM
That ending to Absalom choked me up. Especially those last three panels (not including the back cover). Superbly done.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: broodblik on 07 August, 2019, 02:31:03 PM
Absalom comes to a satisfactory conclusion. His story has been told he achieved what he wanted and now it is time to rest. Rennie can always continue in the Cabalistic/Absalom-verse if he feels like.  Excellent cover and last page to end a great story. As Richard said please an epilogue is not needed.

The rest of the prog is great with an excellent Dredd story.

5/5 prog
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: norton canes on 08 August, 2019, 10:35:21 AM
Magnificent conclusion to Absalom, no epilogue required. Some people have said it felt a bit hasty but Gordon Rennie has been writing most of this chapter's installments as self-contained 6-page episodes so it feels entirely right this concluding part is done in the same way. To draw a comparison with another medium, too many TV shows these days feature protracted, emotionally-wrought codas which take up the last 20 minutes or so of the running time and add little to the essence of the story - I much prefer a pithy concise, ending. The back page merely makes a superb denouement even more wonderful and of course harks back to the way this chapter opened eight weeks ago. Farewell Harry.

Went back to Dredd after starting with Harry's exit and I have to say, the two strips make for spectacularly grim bookends! Have to admit that I only really skim-read the intervening three strips as they were nowhere near the stellar quality of the other two, though Thistlebone a least looks great.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Geoff on 08 August, 2019, 06:45:07 PM
The Cover and back cover are brilliantly done, as was the ending to Absalom.  I agree with Norton, it bucks the current trend of the overly long, overwrought ending.

Dredd is still great, oh that artwork, even though old Joe has once again been captured.  Hopefully he'll find his own way out of this predicament and bring the nefarious Pin to justice, rather than having to be rescued (again).

Thistlebone has reached it's penultimate episode with very little, other than some beautiful artwork, having happened.  Back in the day, all of what's happened so far would probably have happened in the opening episode.  The main characters probably wouldn't be so deathly dull too...

Indigo Prime, complete madness but for some reason I enjoy reading it and looking at it.

Anderson should really be in a fanzine, or not, but it shouldn't be in 2000ad.

A mixed bag then, but the good stuff is strong enough to keep it worthwhile.       
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: TordelBack on 08 August, 2019, 09:23:27 PM
Dredd looks utterly magnificent- highlight was the dead fatty in the Fairlyhyperman t-shirt. Story, ehhhn, it's probably not a great sign that I'm hoping the Sisters are involved somehow.  (I know they aren't).

Indigo Prime. It's entirely Lee Carter's fault that I'm even looking at this now, curse him. I'm biased against the strip's very existence, but at the same timr I'm a big Kek-W fan, so it should be a draw. But it's not. Stop soon, please.

Anderson. Like the art a lot, some great pages this week, and I just love the way Aneke's uniforms work. Something is off about the pacing though, it's somehow simultaneously bogged-down and jumping about, even taking on board Beeby's stylistic choices.

Thistlebone has won me over completely now, I'm entranced and dying to see the denouement. Lovely stuff, would make a great episode of Inside No. 9 or similar.

But Absalom is star baker this week, hasn't put a foot wrong this whole run, and a great cover and perfect ending. This is how you do it. I'll miss this strip a lot.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: BPP on 09 August, 2019, 08:27:44 AM
Absalom was superb. A real verve on the part of Rennie to end as it did... no sequels, no leaving the audience with a sweetheart deal. The story was told and told brilliantly. And the art - Trevallion was a beast in a series that highlighted his still for character, movement and dark humour. His work really sang.

And on top of that Dredd was great, hadn't seen Pins' origins coming and how fantastically it was rendered. That bit of red spot colouring.. wow. Williams writes Dredd perfectly for me, gritty, hard boiled, fleshed out supporting cast, multiple threads in the air and righteously angry and self destructively self righteous. I love that strays into Dredd clearly not following protocol not thru expediency but a sense that he is the law, the writer of primary rules and that such is his weakness. Williams Dredd seems to think himself as more the embodiment of the law than the Justice department - which he has learnt is prone to corruption and intransigence - and himself as right. He's a loose cannon and has been right back to the post Titan assessment by Gerhart to Hershey. If Williams was to direct the strips future I'd wager that's Dredd next epic - he's something so other to the rest of the department that it's not clear it's sustainable.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Greg M. on 09 August, 2019, 11:00:22 AM
Quote from: Geoff on 08 August, 2019, 06:45:07 PM
Dredd is still great, oh that artwork, even though old Joe has once again been captured.

Contemporary writers seem a little too inclined to kick the absolute shit out of Joe in almost every story (judicial corruption as the second inevitable square in modern Dredd bingo.) It's interesting to note how comparatively rarely John Wagner gives Dredd an absolute pasting to the same extent.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Geoff on 09 August, 2019, 12:44:21 PM
Yep, the norm should be Dredd on the front foot and crackin skulls. Him being captured, beaten up out-smarted etc should be an occasional thing.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Greg M. on 09 August, 2019, 12:53:01 PM
I was thinking about it, and Wagner seemed to mostly reserve that treatment for Joe during the mega-epics. 'Howler' stands out as a memorable non-epic-story example.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: TordelBack on 09 August, 2019, 12:55:48 PM
There's an added wobble to this week's Dredd in that Pin's origin is revealed as basically the same as Theo's was shown in Anderson last week. Not Williams'fault, but unfortunatel timing. 

I do like the identification of Chaos Day as Dredd's failure though: it really is, it was the city's biggest crisis and he outright lost.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Frank on 09 August, 2019, 01:00:48 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 09 August, 2019, 12:55:48 PM
There's an added wobble to this week's Dredd in that Pin's origin is revealed as basically the same as Theo's was shown in Anderson last week. Not Williams'fault, but unfortunatel timing.

Dredd and Thistlebone both feature sacrificial virgins lured to remote locations by serial killers who slit their victims' throats.


Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: TordelBack on 09 August, 2019, 03:45:41 PM
Quote from: Frank on 09 August, 2019, 01:00:48 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 09 August, 2019, 12:55:48 PM
There's an added wobble to this week's Dredd in that Pin's origin is revealed as basically the same as Theo's was shown in Anderson last week. Not Williams'fault, but unfortunatel timing.

Dredd and Thistlebone both feature sacrificial virgins lured to remote locations by serial killers who slit their victims' throats.

Yeah, but that's every 2000AD story, eventually.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Frank on 09 August, 2019, 05:48:00 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 09 August, 2019, 03:45:41 PM
Quote from: Frank on 09 August, 2019, 01:00:48 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 09 August, 2019, 12:55:48 PM
There's an added wobble to this week's Dredd in that Pin's origin is revealed as basically the same as Theo's was shown in Anderson last week. Not Williams'fault, but unfortunatel timing.

Dredd and Thistlebone both feature sacrificial virgins lured to remote locations by serial killers who slit their victims' throats.

Yeah, but that's every 2000AD story, eventually.

You're thinking of pirates. They all become pirates.


Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Geoff on 09 August, 2019, 06:07:50 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 09 August, 2019, 12:55:48 PM
I do like the identification of Chaos Day as Dredd's failure though: it really is, it was the city's biggest crisis and he outright lost.

There's no doubt that MC1 lost and therefore so did Dredd, but was Chaos day really Dredd's failure? It's often seen as such and Dredd certainly sees it that way.  It's right that it was in retaliation for Dredd's nuclear strike in AW and that Dredd wasn't able to save the city from the worst of the Chaos Bug.  I do remember a point though where Dredd strongly advises that a ground assault is the only way to be sure that the agents are eliminated and his advice is either ignored or over-ruled.  The airstrike does not work allowing the agents to escape. Had Dredd been listened to, then the disaster would likely have been averted at that stage.  (Note: I'm far from sure about this, but this is how I remember it...)   
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Woolly on 09 August, 2019, 06:55:11 PM
That sounds pretty spot-on to me.
Dredd didn't lose as such, but Justice Dept and Mega-City 1 did. And that's where the old man's heart lies.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Jacqusie on 09 August, 2019, 07:01:47 PM
 *Sob* ... g'bye Harry... a wonderful series which has enthralled and delighted in equal measure, a true all time great of 2000AD. Too many good ideas in Harry's (Cabalistics?) world over the years to leave them in finality surely?  :think:
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: TordelBack on 09 August, 2019, 07:25:28 PM
I'm not saying that Dredd was at fault in Day of Chaos - he generally made the right calls, even if Nadia had reduced his direct effectiveness. My point is that he failed to save his city, that the oppressive controlling nature of the Justice Department that he is the living symbol of meant it was unable to counter Borisenko's strategy, that the devil's bargain made in 'Twilight's Last Gleaming' finally collapsed. The Law oppresses and brutalises the citizens in order to protect them: it didn't. Dredd didn't.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: geronimo on 09 August, 2019, 07:27:42 PM
Quote from: Jacqusie on 09 August, 2019, 07:01:47 PM
*Sob* ... g'bye Harry... a wonderful series which has enthralled and delighted in equal measure, a true all time great of 2000AD. Too many good ideas in Harry's (Cabalistics?) world over the years to leave them in finality surely?  :think:

Would THE P.C. BRIGADE be a good idea for a spin-off? Jen and Daniel could still be pursuing the last of the Rathborne's, in fact there are still a few plot holes to be filled.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: TordelBack on 09 August, 2019, 07:30:10 PM
More of my waffle: in every other major crisis Joe comes riding out of the Curses Earth or the Undercity or Proteus at the last moment and saves the city, because he is a judge, steadfast and unbreakable. Day of Chaos ends with him corralling doomed victims in a stadium to die.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Greg M. on 09 August, 2019, 07:44:17 PM
Between that and then-contemporary events in Strontium Dog, John Wagner was really plumbing the black depths of nihilism in 2012. Day of Chaos is a remarkable work, but god, it's depressing.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Frank on 09 August, 2019, 08:06:05 PM
Quote from: Greg M. on 09 August, 2019, 07:44:17 PM
Between that and then-contemporary events in Strontium Dog, John Wagner was really plumbing the black depths of nihilism in 2012. Day of Chaos is a remarkable work, but god, it's depressing.

Spookily, the previous time Wagner quit 2000ad*, Johnny Alpha died (Final Solution) and both Dredd and MC1 were taken right up to the point of annihilation (Necropolis)


* Wagner's said he meant Day Of Chaos to be his final Dredd story.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Colin YNWA on 09 August, 2019, 09:03:13 PM
Late to the party as just back from a week away. What a lovely Prog to return to. In a typically brutal 2000ad way.

Dredd - The secret origin of Pin is suitably grim and dark. Its a chilling episode.

Indigo Prime - Just brilliantly entertaining. Godzillulhu fight. Kek-W is not John Smith but he does manage one glorious Smothesque trick, he makes all the mindbending stuff somehow make perfect sense... well maybe not perfect but story sense at least. Lee Carter somehow makes it all look real too! That's some talent.

Anderson - As it was I'm afraid.

Thistlebone - All it has to do is stick the landing. Its timed everything else to perfection so come on. Its built to this gripping penultimate episode which just hangs things perfectly.

Absalom - oh and speaking of sticking the landing - bingo - well done Grennie and Trevallion (and all other involved) - its may have not saved too many shocks just it does what it does perfectly and so touchingly. Looking forward to reading all this in one go one day. Suspect it will hang together very well.  Took me a while to get into this series the way others seemed to straightaway but feels like its built deftly from the start up.

Very strong 4 of 5 here and lets see how the shuffle holds up into 2150.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Frank on 09 August, 2019, 09:27:36 PM
Quote from: Frank on 09 August, 2019, 01:00:48 PM
Dredd and Thistlebone both feature sacrificial virgins lured to remote locations by serial killers who slit their victims' throats.

More George Lucas-style rhyming within the Dredd strip itself: together with The Samaritan, Dredd's spent 5 of the last 8 weeks immobile and needing rescuing by a supporting character. Both stories join the spate of recent tales where Dredd's laid-up  (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=45887.msg1008086#msg1008086) and weakened.

It's maybe the natural corollary of the regular doings (as Greg points out) the not-Wagners give Dredd, but there doesn't seem much point using story space to update us on all the magic ways Dredd's youth and vigour have been restored only to turn him into a damsel who hangs around waiting for the Ant Hill Mob to show up and rescue her.

I've speculated Dredd's regular poundings are the manifestation of unconscious frustration with feeling unable to do anything with the character*, but turning him into a passive victim negates the character's appeal, which one of this board's greatest members (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=43932.msg1009913#msg1009913) described as the paradoxical fun of watching a bully inflict cruelty and humiliation upon others.

RE virginity: Just realised Dredd's definitely been pumped at least once:


(https://i.imgur.com/kTnDz7C.jpg?2)


* both because any significant change is generally run by Wagner and because he's a difficult character to write
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Greg M. on 09 August, 2019, 09:32:59 PM
I'm not sure I like the only bolded full words there being 'Greg' and 'virginity'.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: TordelBack on 09 August, 2019, 10:19:03 PM
Quote from: Frank on 09 August, 2019, 09:27:36 PM

Quote...only to turn him into a damsel who hangs around waiting for the Ant Hill Mob to show up and rescue him

Interesting juxtaposition there...

(https://i.imgur.com/kTnDz7C.jpg?2)
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Frank on 09 August, 2019, 10:46:37 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 09 August, 2019, 10:19:03 PM
Quote from: Frank on 09 August, 2019, 09:27:36 PM
...only to turn him into a damsel who hangs around waiting for the Ant Hill Mob to show up and rescue him

Interesting juxtaposition there...

https://i.imgur.com/kTnDz7C.jpg?2 (https://i.imgur.com/kTnDz7C.jpg?2)


Bugger - now I have to post lots of Carlos Ezquerra art. Look what he's made me do, Greg:

(https://i.imgur.com/sX8FVEI.png?1)


Even when unable to do anything, Dredd dishes out more laldy in 3 panels than he's done in the last 8 weeks:

(https://i.imgur.com/uYeh06Q.png?1)


Only a madman would argue that The Starborn Thing is a great Dredd story, but Carlos classes it up as only he can. If Ezquerra had drawn The Space Girls, he'd have found some way to make it enjoyable and memorable:

(https://i.imgur.com/h7mlvmU.png?2)


Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: sheridan on 09 August, 2019, 11:31:22 PM
Quote from: Greg M. on 09 August, 2019, 09:32:59 PM
I'm not sure I like the only bolded full words there being 'Greg' and 'virginity'.


You missed out 're'.  Though that brings to mind the phrase "It's been so long since I've had sex that I think my virginity is growing back" so, er, as you were...
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: broodblik on 10 August, 2019, 04:25:14 AM
One thing everyone is forgetting is that Pin had all the cheat-codes available. She was playing the game on the easy setting and had Dredd at a disadvantage.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: TordelBack on 10 August, 2019, 08:13:12 AM
This is at least the third time someone has shut down Joe's peepers. An investigation into Med Div safeguards seems prudent. By someone other than the SJS.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Dandontdare on 10 August, 2019, 08:28:58 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 10 August, 2019, 08:13:12 AM
This is at least the third time someone has shut down Joe's peepers. An investigation into Med Div safeguards seems prudent. By someone other than the SJS.

I recall the time he was hit with an EMP and his cadet was killed so blind Dredd goes on a boot-knife frenzy (because I own that page), but what was the other?
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: broodblik on 10 August, 2019, 10:00:27 AM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 10 August, 2019, 08:28:58 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 10 August, 2019, 08:13:12 AM
This is at least the third time someone has shut down Joe's peepers. An investigation into Med Div safeguards seems prudent. By someone other than the SJS.

I recall the time he was hit with an EMP and his cadet was killed so blind Dredd goes on a boot-knife frenzy (because I own that page), but what was the other?

Which prog ?
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Richard on 10 August, 2019, 10:07:44 AM
1596-1599.

There was also a Dave Stone novel where that happened, Wetworks.
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 10 August, 2019, 10:38:11 AM
Quote from: Richard on 10 August, 2019, 10:07:44 AM
1596-1599.

That's the EMP one, isn't it? Like TB, I can't remember the other one...
Title: Re: Prog 2143 - The End
Post by: TordelBack on 10 August, 2019, 10:38:32 AM
Hmmm, I wasn't thinking of the Dave Stone novel, was there not another more recent instance since the Robbie Morrison one?  I'm trying to remember specifics, beyond thinking this week wasn't the first time since the first time, but it's not happening. 
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Post by: broodblik on 10 August, 2019, 10:40:25 AM
Quote from: Richard on 10 August, 2019, 10:07:44 AM
1596-1599.

There was also a Dave Stone novel where that happened, Wetworks.

Thx - Blindside by Robbie Morrison and Richard Elson
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Post by: Frank on 10 August, 2019, 11:07:30 AM

A legend walks the spaces between spaces, the places that are not here but are not there: they know him as Ian Anorak Hollingsworth.

From his secret lair, he corrects all bullshit being talked about 2000ad anywhere on the internet. As his emissary, I bring news that Dredd's vision was taken out by an EMP grenade in Al Ewing and John Higgins' Served Cold (1718-1725).


(https://i.imgur.com/LMV6U57.jpg?1)


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Post by: TordelBack on 10 August, 2019, 11:16:39 AM
Of course!  And one of my favourite 'recent' storylines too, oh the shame!  Cheers Ian and Frank!
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Post by: DrJomster on 16 August, 2019, 11:13:59 PM
Playing catch up and finally caught up.

After a little break, please oh mighty Tharg can we have a return to the Cabs/Absalom world? It's been absolutely flipping brilliant!