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Title: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: Magnetica on 18 August, 2019, 10:28:24 AM
Surprised there is no review thread for this yet(?).

This follows on where it left off last year for more of the same. The art by Simon Coleby is really good and suits it very well.

The additional Dr Sin tale really adds to the intrigue and there are some nice background pieces in the back. Loved the bit about Mary's watch too.

The main problem for me is this is currently being done at yearly intervals. At that rate I'm guessing it will be cancelled before it completes which will be a real shame. It needs to be at least quarterly IMO.
Title: Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: moly on 18 August, 2019, 11:11:06 AM
Enjoyed this one more than the previous issue, does need to be released on a more regular basis, maybe have it as an ongoing story in the megazine
Title: Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: broodblik on 18 August, 2019, 11:12:37 AM
The biggest problem as mentioned by Magnetica is the fact that this is a yearly edition. Enjoyed the art of Simon Coleby.
Title: Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: dweezil2 on 18 August, 2019, 11:52:59 AM
A far more cohesive read than the previous rather disjointed issue.
Very enjoyable, with fantastic art.

Greatly anticipating reading more!  :)
Title: Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: metcalfecarr on 20 August, 2019, 12:16:24 PM
Compared to last year this is a more traditional book.  I like the development of characters rather than them all being gung ho.  There's a few niggles in the story but if we can have a suspension of disbelief for a man flying  then I have to have a suspension of disbelief for people smoking in a club. 

The lettering, allegedly by Simon Bowland, is poor, which is why I say allegedly by Bowland who is normally so spot on, plus the baloon construction doesn't look like his.  The cross bar I comes and goesso much that it even happens in the same balloon.  This just pisses me off as sloppiness on behalf of editorial for not spending the time to check and get corrections.  It makes me think that it's actually Sam Gretton as it looks like his work on various special projects.

Simon Coleby's art is as lustrous as ever, hwe even makes Brum look interesting and for the most part accurate to the streets I know so well, and Will Sliney makes the most of his few pages.  On the downside, Jake Lynch's pages don't do anything for me.  At least he had a go, although I wish he hadn't but that's my personal opinion and Im sure some people like it.

I agree that it being a continuing series on an annual basis is a terrible idea and would like to see Vigilant more often, preferably monthly like they did with Sniper Elite, but I also appreciate that had a computer game to boost sales and the old IPC characters have a limited audience
Title: Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: Darren Stephens on 20 August, 2019, 08:45:46 PM
Really enjoyed this and, has been said, wish it was more frequent. My only gripe...? A fiver is a little steep for such a small book. Or maybe I'm just cheap? ;-)
Title: Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: maryanddavid on 21 August, 2019, 12:03:32 PM
I really enjoyed this, although I might be a bit biased, I got to write the text feature at the end of the comic!

So great to see all of the characters back on print, and see the older Fleetway characters like Archie and Cursitor Doom drawn into the Vigilant - verse.

I think the frequency critisim is valid, but taking into account the scale of what has been achieved, a new comic featuring featuring classic Fleetway characters on the newsagents shelves is remarkable. Hopefully sales will be enough to increase the frequency.

Why does this comic deserves support? Simple, its a bloody good comic!
Title: Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: Professor Bear on 21 August, 2019, 12:38:23 PM
This came as part of the Tammy/Jinty/Cor/Buster bundle, but I've no interest in it after the ++DIPLOMACY EMITTERS TO MAXIMUM++ underwhelming Death Man stories and never seeing the first issue anywhere for sale, so it's gone unread.
TBH I'm not fussed about the mashup format, despite loving these characters.  Glad others are getting something out of it, tho.
Title: Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: Magnetica on 21 August, 2019, 12:49:34 PM
Quote from: maryanddavid on 21 August, 2019, 12:03:32 PM
I think the frequency critisim is valid, but taking into account the scale of what has been achieved, a new comic featuring featuring classic Fleetway characters on the newsagents shelves is remarkable. Hopefully sales will be enough to increase the frequency.

Think of it more as an appeal to see this more frequently- I would like to support it by buying it and hope it does well.
Title: Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: Tjm86 on 21 August, 2019, 01:22:54 PM
Having sat down to read it properly, it works quite well.  The frequency certainly isn't helping but it is still head and shoulders above a lot of the insanely overpriced crap the main American publishers churn out

I'm still being nagged to death by my youngest daughter over the Tammy, Jinty, Buster stuff though.  She is desperate for more of that lot.  It would be interesting to see how much that reflects general attitudes and what sales were like but I do hope Rebellion doesn't miss the boat on this.  Considering the number of young, female comic readers there are at present it seems daft to miss this.
Title: Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: Professor Bear on 21 August, 2019, 01:57:13 PM
I'd like to see more of that, too, but have a suspicion that if given a choice between more girl comics and more blokey action nostalgia, Rebellion are going to stay in their lane publishing media aimed at aging blokes.
Title: Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: Proudhuff on 21 August, 2019, 02:48:25 PM
No sign of this in Edinbra FP, will have to hit TMO's shop....
Title: Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: IndigoPrime on 21 August, 2019, 03:29:19 PM
Quote from: Tjm86 on 21 August, 2019, 01:22:54 PMI'm still being nagged to death by my youngest daughter over the Tammy, Jinty, Buster stuff though.  She is desperate for more of that lot.  It would be interesting to see how much that reflects general attitudes and what sales were like but I do hope Rebellion doesn't miss the boat on this.
I hope it's selling well, but locally I've seen a LOT of copies on shelves. Reading WHSmith had at least a dozen. I hope that reflects a big order rather than them just sitting there (although they were faced appallingly). If Cor/Buster was a quarterly or monthly, I'd subscribe right away for mini-G. Tammy/Jinty... TBH, I'd probably subscribe for me. (The others could benefit from being released more often, but I'm not too fussed about the horror stuff being solely a Hallowe'en thing – just that it doesn't have a load of "to be continued". Put those strips in the Prog or Meg! And The Vigilant – I'm happy enough reading it, but it's not yet grabbed me to the point I'd definitely buy a monthly.)
Title: Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: broodblik on 21 August, 2019, 03:55:52 PM
I will buy a monthly Vigilant (but please keep Coleby on art duty).
Title: Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: Bolt-01 on 22 August, 2019, 09:42:01 AM
I thought this was a really solid comic - the plot was a lot more straightforward and it was lovely to actually recognise the bits of Brum on show.

Some of the lettering was below the std we expect here, especially from Simon, but there could well be good reasons for that.

It was great to see Will Sliney make his first appearance working for Rebellion (Did I tell you his first published work was in FutureQuake - Comic profile (https://www.futurequake.co.uk/futurequake/futurequake-08/) available on ComiXology or comicsy) and I'd be happy to see this become a regular title - monthly might be a bit much for the Coleby droid but a quarterly would be very welcome.
Title: Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: Mardroid on 26 August, 2019, 03:36:30 AM
I enjoyed this quite a bit, and it was an improvement on the first issue. I liked that too, but found it rather disjointed and a bit hard to follow. Also apart from The Leopard, (and the Nazi villain who enlarges stuff, to a lesser extent. Oh and that block of flats with the quirky computer) I wasn't well acquainted with the other characters so that threw me a bit.

This one had some of those issues, but was a much smoother easier read overall. It was also nice to see a bit of Billy's home life, [spoiler]and it was an interesting and sad little twist that he's now taking care of his uncle, his aunt now having passed on. And rather than being depicted as just a selfish a-hole, the uncle Charlie is actually quite a sad figure here.[/spoiler]

Overall, good stuff. I'd also like to see this a bit more frequently, maybe duo or tri-monthly, if monthly is too frequent to pull off. I'd also like to see more strips based on the individual characters. This need not be done in separate comics, although I wouldn't mind that either.
Title: Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: Robin Low on 27 August, 2019, 08:22:02 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 26 August, 2019, 03:36:30 AMIt was also nice to see a bit of Billy's home life, [spoiler]and it was an interesting and sad little twist that he's now taking care of his uncle, his aunt now having passed on. And rather than being depicted as just a selfish a-hole, the uncle Charlie is actually quite a sad figure here.[/spoiler]

I read the comic yesterday and was coming here to post pretty much exactly that. Having recently read the second Lime Street collection I found it surprisingly moving. Amazing what a good writer can do with six panels.

QuoteOverall, good stuff. I'd also like to see this a bit more frequently, maybe duo or tri-monthly, if monthly is too frequent to pull off. I'd also like to see more strips based on the individual characters. This need not be done in separate comics, although I wouldn't mind that either.

I'd be quite happy every six months, but I'll settle for once a year (even though this runs the kind of risks being discussed about the Megazine elsewhere). I like the way The Vigilant has been put together and I'd hate to see it dropped because it becomes impractical or inconvenient. As with this issue, a core story and one or two supporting ones would be nice.

It also makes me wish that even more of the reprints of older stories were as large hardbacks.

Regards,

Robin
Title: Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: DrJomster on 01 September, 2019, 10:15:08 PM
I'm going to echo the above comments, coming to this slightly late. A good step forward from last year. Still a little bit on the dense side but far less so than the first book. I'd like to see more as a few more issues like this would really help re-establish a really large roster of characters. Could it go quarterly maybe? Or perhaps termly like school terms. That could also work well for Tammy/Jinny too, not to mention Misty/Scream. I'd subscribe to a quarterly subscription package to all three in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
Post by: Robin Low on 04 September, 2019, 06:29:28 PM
Quote from: DrJomster on 01 September, 2019, 10:15:08 PMI'd like to see more as a few more issues like this would really help re-establish a really large roster of characters. Could it go quarterly maybe? Or perhaps termly like school terms.

Timed for release around the start of each major school holiday, perhaps?

Regards,

Robin