Found this on Bleeding Cool...
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Fantastic stuff! How well drawn is that barnet!
I have to say,thats some low hanging fruit.:|
Quote from: Smith on 10 August, 2017, 06:32:35 PM
I have to say,thats some low hanging fruit.:|
Ah, it's nowt more than a bit of fun at the expense of a high ranking figure - 2000ADs been doing that for years!
You'd think Cliff would have a better grasp of basic anatomy than that. Those hands are totally out of proportion with an adult that size. ;)
Quote from: TordelBack on 10 August, 2017, 09:40:52 PM
You'd think Cliff would have a better grasp of basic anatomy than that. Those hands are totally out of proportion with an adult that size. ;)
And the hair is far too realistic.
Tut tut, Cliff.
I'm going to be honest, I'm not a fan as it suggests 2000 AD/Dredd is an alt right publication to inspire actual facists. Basicly, if you're on Trumps wave length, it reads like an ad for something you might enjoy.
I don't think that is actually the intent, rather I think it's suppose read like Trump is taking real world inspiration from childish fantasy. But do you really want to push the idea of 2000 AD being the home of the ideas of simpletons?
In short, the message is all over the place imo And doesn't paint 2000 AD in a good light via either interpretation.
Quote from: The Adventurer on 10 August, 2017, 10:05:27 PM...if you're on Trumps wave length, it reads like an ad for something you might enjoy.
That happens with Judge Dredd anyway. People either get the joke/commentary, or they don't.
Quote from: The Adventurer on 10 August, 2017, 10:05:27 PM
In short, the message is all over the place imo And doesn't paint 2000 AD in a good light via either interpretation.
Or... it could be commenting on the long-standing inability of the political right, and the American political right in particular, to grasp the fact that Dredd is satire. Also, a neat way to get your Sniper Elite 4 ad a lot of free coverage.
Quote from: The Adventurer on 10 August, 2017, 10:05:27 PM
I'm going to be honest, I'm not a fan as it suggests 2000 AD/Dredd is an alt right publication to inspire actual facists. Basicly, if you're on Trumps wave length, it reads like an ad for something you might enjoy.
I don't think that is actually the intent, rather I think it's suppose read like Trump is taking real world inspiration from childish fantasy. But do you really want to push the idea of 2000 AD being the home of the ideas of simpletons?
In short, the message is all over the place imo And doesn't paint 2000 AD in a good light via either interpretation.
No it doesn't. It suggest that what some see as satire other, less intelligent people, see as a guidebook.
Quote from: The Adventurer on 10 August, 2017, 10:05:27 PM
I'm going to be honest, I'm not a fan as it suggests 2000 AD/Dredd is an alt right publication to inspire actual facists. Basicly, if you're on Trumps wave length, it reads like an ad for something you might enjoy.
I don't think that is actually the intent, rather I think it's suppose read like Trump is taking real world inspiration from childish fantasy. But do you really want to push the idea of 2000 AD being the home of the ideas of simpletons?
In short, the message is all over the place imo And doesn't paint 2000 AD in a good light via either interpretation.
Nonsense.
It's pretty obvious that it's blatant satire, I don't know how you could interpret it any differently.
Especially given 2000AD's long history of exploring fascism and despotic regimes.
I'm having extreme difficulty seeing this as anything but a mildly cringeworthy gag, playing on the '2000AD predicts the future' theme, with added 'Dredd depicts a fascist dystopia, but Trumpkins probably think it's aspirational'. Unfortunate overtones I cannot detect.
That said, the alt-right and MRA allies have adopted 'snowflake' (popularised by Fight Club) and 'red pill' (from The Matrix), so who knows what they might take from our brand of altered reality...
Now, you see, part of me wants someone to send Trump a copy of The Day The Law Died so he thinks replacing Mike Pence with a goldfish is a smart move but on the other hand I don't want him to get the idea of opening the phone book and seeing who's listed first under 'A'. And for Grud's sake, don't nobody show him a copy of The Apocalypse War!
Quote from: Woolly on 10 August, 2017, 09:04:42 PM
Quote from: Smith on 10 August, 2017, 06:32:35 PM
I have to say,thats some low hanging fruit.:|
Ah, it's nowt more than a bit of fun at the expense of a high ranking figure - 2000ADs been doing that for years!
True,but making fun of a guy whos is already a living meme is kinda pointless.
Quote from: Smith on 11 August, 2017, 05:19:20 AM
True,but making fun of a guy whos is already a living meme is kinda pointless.
Making fun of those in power is never pointless.
As Krusty would say: Throwing a pie in the face is only funny if the face has some dignity.
Quote from: CalHab on 11 August, 2017, 06:18:32 AM
Quote from: Smith on 11 August, 2017, 05:19:20 AM
True,but making fun of a guy whos is already a living meme is kinda pointless.
Making fun of those in power is never pointless.
That's only true if they have a shred of self awareness. As humor can help keep them grounded. A humorless sot like Trump sees that kind of thing as justification of their paranoia. I'm not saying appease the man, but I think because of the man he is, irony serves little purpose.
So we're saying Trump is so appalling as to be beyond mockery? I wonder what Charlie Chaplin would say about that..
There's a giant inflatable Trump Chicken outside the Washington Monument. That's great, so is this.
The humour here isn't to unset Trump its to provide succor for those who oppose him in thought or action. It highlights quite how ridiculous those things he does are for all who see it and reminds people how cool 2000ad is...
... how is any of that a bad thing now?
If we're not taking pot shots at Trump, you can kiss good bye to satirical mags like Private Eye and programs like Have I Got News For You.
World leaders have long been subjects of ridicule and long may it continue, not forgetting that this form of satire is also directed at the people who would vote for these questionable individuals.
Quote from: dweezil2 on 11 August, 2017, 08:49:27 AM
If we're not taking pot shots at Trump, you can kiss good bye to satirical mags like Private Eye and programs like Have I Got News For You.
World leaders have long been subjects of ridicule and long may it continue, not forgetting that this form of satire is also directed at the people who would vote for these questionable individuals.
I'll just leave a few quotes here...
"Speak truth to power"
"Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence"
Dont you think your giving this cartoon a bit too much credit?
After a year or so of EVERYONE making fun of Trump,this is just...obligatory.
Made me chuckle, certainly.
I will say that I remember being utterly baffled that anyone could watch the film 'Starship Troopers' and fail to see it as anything other than a gleefully funny and biting satire of over-militarized / infantilized society - but then discovering that it has huge numbers of fans who just love it as a sincere story about pretty people killing evil bugs.
So I can sort of see Adventurer's point that a similar crowd might genuinely see this pic as a good reason to buy them some Judge Dredd. Which I guess would be a good things, saleswise?
Quote from: AlexF on 11 August, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
So I can sort of see Adventurer's point that a similar crowd might genuinely see this pic as a good reason to buy them some Judge Dredd. Which I guess would be a good things, saleswise?
This is the thing which has always confused me about the popularity of flag burning in some parts of the world.
Quote from: AlexF on 11 August, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
I will say that I remember being utterly baffled that anyone could watch the film 'Starship Troopers' and fail to see it as anything other than a gleefully funny and biting satire of over-militarized / infantilized society - but then discovering that it has huge numbers of fans who just love it as a sincere story about pretty people killing evil bugs.
Such as the author of the book it was based on (this is open to debate)?
Quote from: The Adventurer on 11 August, 2017, 06:50:53 AM
Quote from: CalHab on 11 August, 2017, 06:18:32 AM
Quote from: Smith on 11 August, 2017, 05:19:20 AM
True,but making fun of a guy whos is already a living meme is kinda pointless.
Making fun of those in power is never pointless.
That's only true if they have a shred of self awareness. As humor can help keep them grounded. A humorless sot like Trump sees that kind of thing as justification of their paranoia. I'm not saying appease the man, but I think because of the man he is, irony serves little purpose.
That logic only makes sense if the joke is meant exclusively for Trump and the intention of the gag is to shame some self awareness into him.
Jokes unify opposition as much as that prick the powerful.
Also, nothing wrong with a bit of low hanging fruit.