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Title: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 10 May, 2017, 05:10:35 pm
Submitted without comment…

Judge Dredd TV series in development. (http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/10/judge-dredd-tv-show/)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 10 May, 2017, 05:12:05 pm
Well, I say 'without comment'… obviously, my actual comment was more like "Bloody hell! That's amazing!" :-)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pete Wells on 10 May, 2017, 05:12:24 pm
I'm available to play Dredd. Burdis could play Otto Sump.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Timothy on 10 May, 2017, 05:13:21 pm
I very much like the fact that the city gets a bigger billing than old chin-face.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: blackmocco on 10 May, 2017, 05:22:18 pm
Actually sounds like the perfect approach. Bring it on!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mike Carroll on 10 May, 2017, 05:26:26 pm
This is real!

(http://www.michaelowencarroll.com/pics/mc1postercropped.jpg)
Entertainment Weekly (http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/10/judge-dredd-tv-show/)

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Bolt-01 on 10 May, 2017, 05:30:13 pm
Woot!
Title: Re: On TV soon…
Post by: Goaty on 10 May, 2017, 05:31:44 pm
sorry I report this thread to have right title!

Is it cartoon or TV series?!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Bolt-01 on 10 May, 2017, 05:32:07 pm
I've just merged the threads...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 10 May, 2017, 05:33:52 pm
Oh my. I'd love this to be a continuation of the movie universe (with Urban popping up as Dredd), however remote that is. Either way, here's hoping it's good.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 10 May, 2017, 05:38:41 pm
Karl re-tweet 2000AD news about this :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: 2000ADWebDroid on 10 May, 2017, 05:39:52 pm
Sign-up for updates here: http://megacityone.co.uk/
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: metalmarc on 10 May, 2017, 05:41:03 pm
I'm excited, I...I..I am over the moon.

 :o
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 10 May, 2017, 05:42:51 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ei-BY6dYY&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ei-BY6dYY&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Heath C Ackley on 10 May, 2017, 05:45:51 pm
Just seen the announcement vid - Get in!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SpongeJosh on 10 May, 2017, 05:46:29 pm
Sweeet!  :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 10 May, 2017, 05:50:01 pm
It's live-action, not animated.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 10 May, 2017, 05:50:40 pm
I'm available to play Dredd. Burdis could play Otto Sump.

I think you should play Burdis. Burdis can play Anderson.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: DrRocka on 10 May, 2017, 05:52:40 pm
Yippee! Now please call Mr Urban IMMEDIATELY
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 10 May, 2017, 05:52:45 pm
It's live-action, not animated.

(http://i.imgur.com/CXzYK2N.gif)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 10 May, 2017, 05:53:04 pm
Article on BBC News.

To be filmed in UK.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Professor Bear on 10 May, 2017, 05:58:53 pm
Didn't they try this already? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U00p0LNZOpw)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 10 May, 2017, 06:01:15 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-39873020 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-39873020)

Would love to be involved, any time, any place, any part!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 10 May, 2017, 06:06:12 pm
Well this will break the formum in a floury of giddiness.

That's great news and the idea seems to be to focus on the City which is an absolute genius move I've whittered about before. While I'm normally a bit hurumphy about media adaptions from comics this surely can only be a GREAT thing for the source, Rebellion and one would hope all fans.

I've had a good day today. It's just got better.Well done all involved!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: TordelBack on 10 May, 2017, 06:19:14 pm
For grud's sake is this thing not on yet, it feels like it's been ages...

There's only two names I want to see attached to this. Much excitement!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 10 May, 2017, 06:19:56 pm
Know what is fucking great? It's filming in the UK!!!!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 10 May, 2017, 06:25:16 pm
My grud almighty! This well be an exciting time for squaxx and new fans alike!

In the words of Colin, my four colour goo is very much flowing!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: CalHab on 10 May, 2017, 06:26:48 pm
I really like the idea of focussing on the citizens, rather than Dredd.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: lawgiver2000 on 10 May, 2017, 06:36:34 pm
Great News  :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: von Boom on 10 May, 2017, 06:50:32 pm
I nearly dropped my phone when the email came through! Amazing news!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Zarjazzer on 10 May, 2017, 07:01:40 pm
Marvellous news. No codpieces though.  ;) It's fantabulous news and now we can speculate on who's playing Dreddy. is it me?

I hope it's Karl! or he can have a bit part as my comedy side kick. Ouch stop throwing things at me.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Buttonman on 10 May, 2017, 07:06:16 pm
Exciting! Wonder if it will be a network or Amazon or Netflix or once of the cable jobbies like Showtime or HBO? Hopefully some names attached will see a bidding frenzy!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 10 May, 2017, 07:09:05 pm
I chose the right time to come back to the Board, obviously. Maybe I knew. Ah, maybe I did. Maybe I'm in the running to play Judge Throbb, the devilishly handsome Sector Chief who has a secret, which won't be revealed until episode 12 of series one. Clue: I'm secretly possessed by Judge Fear.
Whatever, it's tremendous news. Let's hope our illustrious Minty/S&D team get a crack at an episode, at least.
SBT
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 10 May, 2017, 07:12:21 pm
Such great news.

If I can just see Karl's name attached to this I could die happy. Please let it happen!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mark Taylor on 10 May, 2017, 07:16:34 pm
"The plan is to make the series an ensemble drama about a team of Judges" - very cool, exactly what I was hoping for.

My advice to the producers: watch every damn episode of Hill Street Blues, and learn. Whilst I'm not saying they should be aiming to make "HSB with Judges", I'd really like to see them replicate that sense of barely controlled anarchy the show often portrayed so successfully. It's perfect for Mega-City one, particularly if they go with the movie concept: "Twelve serious crimes reported every minute. Seventeen thousand per day. We can respond to around six percent."
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 10 May, 2017, 07:21:07 pm
Bloody hell, Judge Dredd telly show AND Smallbluething back on the forum. What a beautiful day.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Beeks on 10 May, 2017, 07:24:36 pm
The day has finally arrived!

I'm so glad they are going to incorporate a little of the humour of the comic

Really hope Urban reprises the role :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pete Wells on 10 May, 2017, 07:26:48 pm
There's been an early production leak. I think it looks excellent:

(https://s18.postimg.org/lalb8q4dl/IMG_1752.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 10 May, 2017, 07:27:37 pm
At last it is Helmet too big!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Beeks on 10 May, 2017, 07:29:06 pm
There's been an early production leak. I think it looks excellent:

(https://s18.postimg.org/lalb8q4dl/IMG_1752.jpg)

Haha just remembered the reaction on here when the film Lawmaster pics were leaked  :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 10 May, 2017, 07:29:57 pm
Too many chain links, i'm out.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 10 May, 2017, 07:34:52 pm
If it is being filmed in the UK, chances are that it'll be in Belfast. HBO will have no further need for the massive studios they used for Game of Thrones. Besides, Belfast was already in the opening sequence of Dredd. The place is practically Mega City One at times.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mark Taylor on 10 May, 2017, 07:36:01 pm
There's been an early production leak. I think it looks excellent:

Why is he not arresting the guy with the T-shirt that says something about comics on it. He probably has a bagful of illegal comics. Get 'im, Dreddy!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Woolly on 10 May, 2017, 07:37:00 pm
Fanfuckingtastic!

This time, I'm going to be all over the thread like a rash and get MY board-name immortalised in MC-1!
Filming in the UK you say? Better still, I could get a part!
Judge Looks-A-Bit-Skinny-And-Rough. It could work, honest guv'!

Best news since we heard the 2012 film was in production. Bravo to all involved for getting this started  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: NapalmKev on 10 May, 2017, 07:37:14 pm
Fantastic news, to be honest!

Cheers*

*if you need a mutant, here I am! I'm from the West Country so I should qualify  ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Woolly on 10 May, 2017, 07:41:41 pm
*if you need a mutant, here I am! I'm from the West Country so I should qualify  ;)

And I'm from Sheffield. They shot Threads here for a reason, y'know...  ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mute77 on 10 May, 2017, 07:43:20 pm
Finally! I dont mind who plays dredd as long as its done well. Of course karl urban would be preferable!  Exciting stuff!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: marko10174 on 10 May, 2017, 07:46:48 pm
"The plan is to make the series an ensemble drama about a team of Judges" - very cool, exactly what I was hoping for.

My advice to the producers: watch every damn episode of Hill Street Blues, and learn. Whilst I'm not saying they should be aiming to make "HSB with Judges", I'd really like to see them replicate that sense of barely controlled anarchy the show often portrayed so successfully. It's perfect for Mega-City one, particularly if they go with the movie concept: "Twelve serious crimes reported every minute. Seventeen thousand per day. We can respond to around six percent."

 You have the same name as me, I too am Mark Taylor citizen! middle name being David.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 10 May, 2017, 07:46:58 pm
Karl Urban WAS Judge Dredd for me. I've got everything crossed that it will happen!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pete Wells on 10 May, 2017, 07:50:25 pm
Hope we get some news at SDCC...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 10 May, 2017, 07:57:16 pm
Urban would be nice, not sure about the logistics though.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 10 May, 2017, 08:02:13 pm
SO EXCITED THIS REQUIRES AN OLD-SKOOL GIF

(https://m.popkey.co/250e71/Dq6V_f-maxage-0.gif)

I'm sure it's already been said but "Film Discussion" should now become "Dredd Film & TV Discussion" surely?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 May, 2017, 08:07:05 pm
After the disappointment of no Dredd sequel, this more than makes up for it!

Grud has heard our prayers and deemed us worthy!

DROKK YEAH!!!   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JamesC on 10 May, 2017, 08:08:53 pm
Very exciting. Well done Rebellion!

*please be good* *please be successful*
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Woolly on 10 May, 2017, 08:09:42 pm
Urban would be nice, not sure about the logistics though.

I'm going to take a speculative guess that Dredd isn't going to be the main draw here.
He'll turn up for sure, definately in the first couple of episodes, but then we'll get a more The Pit style Judge procedural type thing, with Dredd appearing every now-and-then (which could help accommodate a certain someone's schedule, maybe).

Has it been confirmed if this is a follow-on from the 2012 film yet?

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JamesC on 10 May, 2017, 08:13:54 pm
Urban would be nice, not sure about the logistics though.

I'm going to take a speculative guess that Dredd isn't going to be the main draw here.
He'll turn up for sure, definately in the first couple of episodes, but then we'll get a more The Pit style Judge procedural type thing, with Dredd appearing every now-and-then (which could help accommodate a certain someone's schedule, maybe).

Has it been confirmed if this is a follow-on from the 2012 film yet?

The vibe I'm getting is 'Gotham' but in the Dreddverse (hopefully better though).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rara Avis on 10 May, 2017, 08:16:52 pm
After such an amazing job on the movie I don't think Rebellion are going to let anyone fuck this up.

This is very welcome and very exciting news.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mark Taylor on 10 May, 2017, 08:39:40 pm
You have the same name as me, I too am Mark Taylor citizen! middle name being David.

I've met a few! It's the curse of the common name. :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Woolly on 10 May, 2017, 08:45:52 pm
Just thinking... If IM Global are involved in this, then does that mean this is a continuation of the 2012 movie universe?

ISTR reading in another thread that IM Global had the rights to the designs from 2012.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Andy Lambert on 10 May, 2017, 08:46:48 pm
For real?!?
I just did a sex wee...!

WOO HOO!!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 10 May, 2017, 08:52:24 pm
Just thinking... If IM Global are involved in this, then does that mean this is a continuation of the 2012 movie universe?

ISTR reading in another thread that IM Global had the rights to the designs from 2012.

I don't know how it works, there were lots of different partners.

It could be they want to break from that to re-assert rights with the bonus that it would put a line under the bootleg 2012 stuff.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 10 May, 2017, 08:56:10 pm
Perhaps, out on the mean streets a Cops-style handheld camera style depicting the everyday misery that passes for life in the big bad Meg. More conventional TV direction when you move inside buildings so you can shoot that in the studio. Whatever style they go for I'm just happy it's a happenin'!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 May, 2017, 09:01:22 pm
Just thinking... If IM Global are involved in this, then does that mean this is a continuation of the 2012 movie universe?

ISTR reading in another thread that IM Global had the rights to the designs from 2012.

Consider the aesthetic of the promo image and what they say in the video.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Zarjazzer on 10 May, 2017, 09:17:12 pm
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a126/reptileking_/excited%20cat_zpssdv2c91o.png) (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/reptileking_/media/excited%20cat_zpssdv2c91o.png.html)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Trooper McFad on 10 May, 2017, 09:39:22 pm
SOOOOoooooo excited that this may/will happen I hope they do go down another characters main view of Megacity One with bit parts of the Main man and other big characters if and when the stories need them. I do hope they go for quality and not quantity. Watching 20 plus episodes each season of Flash/Arrow/Gotham and Shield I do struggle sometimes - unless they get Sh**hot writers to keep the audience on the edge of their seats.
It's a no brainier the the folk on here would put up with a few mediocre episodes but money talks and if it doesn't draw in a new audience it won't last too long.  :(
Anyway enough of the doom and gloom this could be awesome  :thumbsup: If it works for this what could be next out the catalogue?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mardroid on 10 May, 2017, 09:45:37 pm
GREAT NEWS!

I'm interested to see that the poster actually references four hundred million, rather than the eight hundred million citizens of the film.

So different reality? Or have the major disasters that affected the citizens in the comic happened between film and TV show? A bit more back-story to mine?

Whether a continuation from the film or not, I think I'll happy as long as it is done well. It would be nice if Karl Urban could return to do his stuff, though, but I wouldn't mind a uniform*  and some of the weirdness closer to the comics.

*Actually styles would work for me.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 10 May, 2017, 09:51:51 pm
Glad it got UK production. Hope they use wonderful stories and many great writers from 2000AD and directors as Duncan Jones and Edgar Wright.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mardroid on 10 May, 2017, 09:54:09 pm
*Actually styles would work for me.

Correction: Actually both styles work for me.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: A.Cow on 10 May, 2017, 09:54:54 pm
And, apparently, there's already a trailer out for it....

     https://youtu.be/fTN2YWyyE_E (https://youtu.be/fTN2YWyyE_E)

On a more serious note, we should be a tiny bit cautious.  Online research indicates that production partner Mark Stern (of IM Global) seems to have built a reputation in his time at SyFy for bigging-up projects, only for them to never make it out of the development stage...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 10 May, 2017, 10:00:42 pm
The Beeb are keen to spread the good news.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-39873020
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 10 May, 2017, 10:04:59 pm
"Thanks to the legions of fans..."

http://www.empireonline.com/movies/dredd/live-action-judge-dredd-tv-series-works/ (http://www.empireonline.com/movies/dredd/live-action-judge-dredd-tv-series-works/)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 10 May, 2017, 10:34:02 pm
Just heard about this and sounds quite promising and exciting.   I remember suggesting in the Dredd thread why not call any next film etc Mega City One so it's great to see that title being used (not that I'm suggesting I influenced anything of course.........mind you...you never know ;)). 

I hope they plough plenty of money into this and use stories from the comics.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SuperSurfer on 10 May, 2017, 10:36:51 pm
A tv series they say? Don't know what all the fuss is about. What would be the point of that? THUDD!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pete Wells on 10 May, 2017, 10:38:45 pm
Ha ha ha  Supersurfer!

I hope Alex Garland is involved in this, that'd be awesome!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 10 May, 2017, 10:43:12 pm
Very excited about this. Would love it to be Karl Urban, but we'll see.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 10 May, 2017, 10:45:38 pm
Great news! The #1 thing we'd want to see is happening, that's pretty damn cool. Sounds like they're going to be true to the comic as much as they can too, or drawing a lot more inspiration from it than we may have seen if other people handled it.

This is going to be epic!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 10 May, 2017, 10:56:18 pm
But folks!   No more 1980s vans! :)   Futuristic vehicles, robots n all that stuff.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mardroid on 10 May, 2017, 10:58:45 pm
The ad shows flying cars... which ultimately doesn't really mean anything as it could be completely different when it is broadcast. If they keep to that aesthetic though (i.e. movie style blocks, albeit not so spaced out, but the comic vehicles) that would not be a bad way to go.

I do like the big mushroom buildings, though.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Spikes on 10 May, 2017, 11:02:20 pm
Well, bugger me...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dodsy on 10 May, 2017, 11:09:49 pm
Absolutely amazing news. Very curious to see how far along in production the show is (I know it's only early days).
Can't help but think of all the potential storylines they could do....
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ZenArcade on 10 May, 2017, 11:15:23 pm
Nearly scared to post in this, so much is the high voltage joy, but: FUCKING YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!! Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 10 May, 2017, 11:17:29 pm
But folks!   No more 1980s vans! :)   Futuristic vehicles, robots n all that stuff.

Okay, Scott...  ::)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 10 May, 2017, 11:17:54 pm
For grud's sake is this thing not on yet, it feels like it's been ages...

There's only two names I want to see attached to this. Much excitement!


Karl and Urban?  Or Wagner and Ezquerra?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: NewDredd on 10 May, 2017, 11:20:10 pm
And, apparently, there's already a trailer out for it....

     https://youtu.be/fTN2YWyyE_E (https://youtu.be/fTN2YWyyE_E)

On a more serious note, we should be a tiny bit cautious.  Online research indicates that production partner Mark Stern (of IM Global) seems to have built a reputation in his time at SyFy for bigging-up projects, only for them to never make it out of the development stage...

Rest easy, last month IM Global will be expanding an unscripted and alternative development team. according to Deadline (http://deadline.com/2017/03/im-global-television-expands-development-team-jennifer-colbert-tim-rosenman-casey-kelly-1202052613/).

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"It’s exciting times here at IM Global Television as we begin assembling the first wave of a team with dedicated focus on formats and programs with global appeal,” said IM Global Television’s President of Unscripted & Alternative, Phil Gurin. “With their varied professional backgrounds and experiences, I am thrilled to welcome Jennifer Colbert, Tim Rosenman and Casey Kelly, whose creative energy and passion will help us create, collaborate on and identify the most exciting new programs for all platforms both at home and around the world.”
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ZenArcade on 10 May, 2017, 11:20:56 pm
Urban and TB Glover. :-) Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 10 May, 2017, 11:36:53 pm
Okay, Scott...  ::)

You kind of need to stop accusing random posters of being Scojo.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 10 May, 2017, 11:37:47 pm
If they need a long-haired simp type to play a Wally Squad Judge then I'm available. :P
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dash Decent on 10 May, 2017, 11:39:58 pm
Thoughts and comments:

1. Wow!

2. WOW!

3. The poster shows a more futuristic, prog-style MC1, so hopefully we're getting away from the "2 minutes into the future" skyscrapers of the last Dredd movie.

4. Molch-R says in his promo piece we won't see anything for at least two years!  I know that's par for the course with these things but we better put our waiting pants on.

5. Have a look at the announcement video with Jason Kingsley (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ei-BY6dYY).  Did they really SPELL THE NAME OF THEIR BOSS INCORRECTLY in the very first seconds of this video?  You know, the video saying how they're big enough to be good at making their own videos?  And, again, not just anyone but THE BOSS?  The one name you'd check three times before releasing it?  In an organisation that is also a print media publisher and therefore has editors and systems for checking spelling, etc?

[Clue guys, it's got a "G" in it.]

6. Check out Brian Jenkins in the same video.  There's the man to play Dredd right there!  He'd have to lose the beard of course, or otherwise he could just be seen from behind or in silhouette at the periphery of the action.

7. I remember how cruelly poor Bananaman was treated when he made his way from the pages of "Nutty" to the small screen.  Suddenly Eric had hair!  And then they changed the comic strip to match the TV show.  This could be a slippery slope for Dredd!  ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Andy Lambert on 10 May, 2017, 11:49:12 pm
C'mon, guys - lets not be fretting already - speculation is fine and good, but lets just bask in the glory of MORE Dredd on the way...! 2000ad's anniversary year continues to deliver the goods so lets enjoy...!:D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dash Decent on 10 May, 2017, 11:53:39 pm
I hope they correct this!

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x418/Dash_Decent/Pro_zpsdshzcspk.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Andy Lambert on 10 May, 2017, 11:57:15 pm
Quote
6. Check out Brian Jenkins in the same video.  There's the man to play Dredd right there!  He'd have to lose the beard of course, or otherwise he could just be seen from behind or in silhouette at the periphery of the action.

Don't know about Dredd but I'm definitely seeing Desperate Dan...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 11 May, 2017, 12:01:51 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-oxfordshire-39877455/dredd-tv-show-telling-good-story-is-key (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-oxfordshire-39877455/dredd-tv-show-telling-good-story-is-key)

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Cookyman on 11 May, 2017, 12:03:44 am
Having the series called Mega City One you could have episodes that focus more on the citizens with the Judges in the background of the stories being the bastards they are e.g. America, Chopper etc.  Other episodes could be more judge focussed, if done correctly you this has one hell of a lot of potential.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Andy Lambert on 11 May, 2017, 12:11:26 am
Just occurred to me my Desperate Dan comment could appear as mean which absolutely wasn't my intention - no malice intended, so if that came across as offensive, I sincerely apologise.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 11 May, 2017, 12:30:02 am
If it is being filmed in the UK, chances are that it'll be in Belfast. HBO will have no further need for the massive studios they used for Game of Thrones. Besides, Belfast was already in the opening sequence of Dredd. The place is practically Mega City One at times.


?  The producers of Game of Thrones are considering four different follow-up series to Game of Thrones (ideas on what these could be generally centre around prequels - Barratheon's rebellion, tales of the rise of the Targaryens, etc).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 11 May, 2017, 12:49:10 am
The vibe I'm getting is 'Gotham' but in the Dreddverse (hopefully better though).


Gotham - wasn't one of the producers on that Danny Cannon?  I wonder if he'd be free to develop the Dredd TV series? ;-)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 11 May, 2017, 12:57:44 am
6. Check out Brian Jenkins in the same video.  There's the man to play Dredd right there!  He'd have to lose the beard of course, or otherwise he could just be seen from behind or in silhouette at the periphery of the action.


Nah, it's fine - Dredd has a beard, see?


(https://i0.wp.com/www.comixasylum.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Judge-Dredd-Mega-City-Zero-Vol.3-TPB_Page_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 11 May, 2017, 01:00:11 am
This news just brought me back to the forum. Been waiting for this to happen, Yes! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dash Decent on 11 May, 2017, 01:26:04 am
For grud's sake is this thing not on yet, it feels like it's been ages...

There's only two names I want to see attached to this. Much excitement!


Karl and Urban?  Or Wagner and Ezquerra?

He means Ennis & Miller.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 11 May, 2017, 01:33:04 am
For grud's sake is this thing not on yet, it feels like it's been ages...

There's only two names I want to see attached to this. Much excitement!


Karl and Urban?  Or Wagner and Ezquerra?

He means Ennis & Miller.

Shame Fleischer never wrote Dredd...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 11 May, 2017, 02:30:50 am
The ad shows flying cars... which ultimately doesn't really mean anything as it could be completely different when it is broadcast. If they keep to that aesthetic though (i.e. movie style blocks, albeit not so spaced out, but the comic vehicles) that would not be a bad way to go.

I do like the big mushroom buildings, though.




If Mega City looks anything like that poster then that's a very good start.   I liked Dredd but the city to me just wasn't anywhere near as futuristic and crowded enough as it should be.

And of course the Lawmaster was another bone of contention.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 11 May, 2017, 02:34:27 am
Here's what the Lawmaster should look like........


http://www.mwctoys.com/images2/review_lawmaster_14.jpg


I've got me one of dem and it's bewtiful.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: A.Cow on 11 May, 2017, 03:48:24 am
Interesting signs in the poster:  "CALLING ALL DULTS!  MEGXIT NEEDS YOUR GUNS"

Cheeky "2016 AD" logo, too.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rogue Judge on 11 May, 2017, 04:25:07 am
Got the email this morning announcing this and it made my day! I thought of all the happy drokkers on this board and had to smile, I knew how pleased you would all be!

Its funny how all the comments on the YouTube announcement video say "Urban as Dredd or there will be blockwars!"
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Smith on 11 May, 2017, 05:37:00 am
It probably way too early,but any news on what network it could be?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Adventurer on 11 May, 2017, 06:00:14 am
It probably way too early,but any news on what network it could be?

I suspect they're in 'make a pilot to shop around' mode.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Magnetica on 11 May, 2017, 07:19:29 am
They said no network is on board yet.

Personally I'm hoping for Netflix.

Hope it's not Sky, as I don't have that and satellite dishes are frowned on where I live. But hey, Sky should be available via the Internet by the time this is out.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Muon on 11 May, 2017, 07:56:50 am
They said no network is on board yet.

Personally I'm hoping for Netflix.

Hope it's not Sky, as I don't have that and satellite dishes are frowned on where I live. But hey, Sky should be available via the Internet by the time this is out.

I heard there's an Internet streaming thingy called Now TV or something that allows you to watch Sky stuff for a monthly fee without entering into a contract. That's how I'm planning to watch the forthcoming Twin Peaks episodes.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dash Decent on 11 May, 2017, 08:05:14 am
It probably way too early,but any news on what network it could be?

Network 23, Live and Direct, and sponsored by the ZikZak Corporation.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Muon on 11 May, 2017, 08:05:42 am
A TV series that takes a wider look at Mega-city One is just about the best news there could have been. Firstly, it had the potential to be freakin' awesome, and secondly, having something like this would stop the gloaters from saying stuff like, "it's already been tried twice and both times it failed LOLOLOL".

If only I could go back in time and show the news to this infuriatingly supercilious git I was arguing with on the Guardian message board a couple of years back...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Tormunda on 11 May, 2017, 08:09:11 am
KARL URBAN
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Fungus on 11 May, 2017, 08:51:54 am
KARL URBAN

Well, yes, but being the better of 2 doesn't make him the best possible choice. There's a world of unemployed actors, and some are quite good? [Also, the helmet isn't coming off so it's a chin/voice?  ;)]

Good news, glad 'Dredd's in the title, 'Gotham' was fun for about one series but felt a bit Batman-lite. And I hope the city's as nuts as possible, focus on ... about 2105. Go from there. Do grim and gritty later, if it's necessary.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Smith on 11 May, 2017, 09:03:41 am
Dont get me started on Gotham...
As everybody here,I really hope this works out.It would also open the doors for some other 2000ad work and maybe bring in new readers.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Magnetica on 11 May, 2017, 09:24:38 am
They said no network is on board yet.

Personally I'm hoping for Netflix.

Hope it's not Sky, as I don't have that and satellite dishes are frowned on where I live. But hey, Sky should be available via the Internet by the time this is out.

I heard there's an Internet streaming thingy called Now TV or something that allows you to watch Sky stuff for a monthly fee without entering into a contract. That's how I'm planning to watch the forthcoming Twin Peaks episodes.

Yes but neither my set top box or telly support it.  :(

Sky did announce proper Sky via tinternet for two years hence a couple of months ago.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Muon on 11 May, 2017, 09:48:35 am
They said no network is on board yet.

Personally I'm hoping for Netflix.

Hope it's not Sky, as I don't have that and satellite dishes are frowned on where I live. But hey, Sky should be available via the Internet by the time this is out.

I heard there's an Internet streaming thingy called Now TV or something that allows you to watch Sky stuff for a monthly fee without entering into a contract. That's how I'm planning to watch the forthcoming Twin Peaks episodes.

Yes but neither my set top box or telly support it.  :(

Sky did announce proper Sky via tinternet for two years hence a couple of months ago.

I got the impression from this article that it's already available as a streamed viewing service:
http://vodzilla.co/blog/features/where-can-i-watch-twin-peaks-online-in-the-uk-legally-2017/

Admittedly, I haven't looked into it in any kind of detail so I'm likely to be wrong. And if I'm wrong I don't get to see Twin Peaks  :|

...Or Dredd if it's shown on Sky  :'(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Satanist on 11 May, 2017, 10:11:06 am
Please, please,please be good!

 ***crosses everything***
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dash Decent on 11 May, 2017, 10:18:17 am
Just think of the stories they could do with a vehicle like this - The Pit for starters, a sector house siege story, the Super Surf, and then throw in a bit of levity with something like "Finger of Suspicion" and the tenderness of "Bury My Knee at Wounded Heart".  It would really show people the range of the Dredd stories - action, police procedural, SF, human drama.

They could also throw in some back history and have Bad Bob Booth mentioned once or twice.  They could even make him look a bit like, oh, I don't know, say, some other President of the USA?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 May, 2017, 10:35:26 am
They say they have a team of writers already. Could any of them be Scribe Droids or those that have previously worked for 2000AD? I think David Bishop did some TV scripts for the Beeb show Doctors and I'm sure others have done Television production stuff. Would Rebellion or whoever is producing the storylines decide that toothy scribe droids might get the first crack at the screenplays? Or is it that the Production already has script writers who specialise in writing television storylines and toothy staff just get a look at their characters suggesting changes where they believe necessary?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Bad City Blue on 11 May, 2017, 10:52:11 am
Been soiling the old nerd pants for the last 24 hours.

Being made by the right people makes this so exciting!

Wish list:

Fatties
Sky Surfing (preferably Chopper and Supersurf)
Bat Gliders
Otto Sump
Simps
Wally Squad
No hover bikes

From the above I think it's obvious I want a focus on the citizens and the city, as Judges are not that interesting. Dredd works because of the madness he's dragged into.

Oh, and Karl Urban, which is more likely if Dredd isn't in it all the time (smaller fee, less time consumed)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Andy Lambert on 11 May, 2017, 11:10:25 am
SFX is pretty sure this won't star Karl Urban and won't be on Netflix. I know it's far too early for confirmed details, but they sound like they know something no-one else seems to - unless I've missed something...

http://www.gamesradar.com/a-judge-dredd-tv-show-is-coming-but-its-not-the-karl-urban-netflix-series-everyone-wanted/#comment-jump
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dash Decent on 11 May, 2017, 11:15:47 am
SFX is pretty sure this won't star Karl Urban and won't be on Netflix.

So it is Pete Wells!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 11 May, 2017, 11:19:32 am
The SFX story whiffs of conjecture. It might prove to be true, but it doesn't read like they have any inside info.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dash Decent on 11 May, 2017, 11:20:38 am
The SFX story whiffs of conjecture.

What about what Pete Wells whiffs of?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dash Decent on 11 May, 2017, 11:21:11 am
Enough Pete-bashing!

This is real!
(http://www.michaelowencarroll.com/pics/mc1postercropped.jpg)

Did you create that poster, Mike?

(PS, Glad to see it's the flat-headed belt buckle, rather than the stick-up-and-spear-you-in-the-belly design.)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 11 May, 2017, 11:21:50 am
SFX is pretty sure this won't star Karl Urban and won't be on Netflix. I know it's far too early for confirmed details, but they sound like they know something no-one else seems to - unless I've missed something...

http://www.gamesradar.com/a-judge-dredd-tv-show-is-coming-but-its-not-the-karl-urban-netflix-series-everyone-wanted/#comment-jump

How much regurgitated unsubstantiated rubbish have various sites posted over the years?

Unless it's coming from Rebellion or IM Global, it generally means jack shit one way or the other.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pyroxian on 11 May, 2017, 11:23:55 am
Yes but neither my set top box or telly support it.  :(

Chromecast does (little dongle you plug into your TVs HDMI port and control via an Android / iPhone or your PC.). It's how I'm planning on watching Game of Thrones S7.

I think Apple TV and the Amazon Fire stick support it as well.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Andy Lambert on 11 May, 2017, 11:26:44 am
Well, quite - I was just bemused that SFX seemed to have arrived at a conclusion no-one else seems to... so far.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Fungus on 11 May, 2017, 11:28:21 am
I was also wondering about tales to tell...
You approach Otto Sump, League of Fatties, Hunters Club (just examples that sprung to mind) in the right way, and this could really take off.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 11 May, 2017, 11:28:54 am
It's clickbait - they want an angle that isn't just repeating the press release.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: terryworld on 11 May, 2017, 11:40:46 am
DROKKING GOOD NEWS!!!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: jacob g on 11 May, 2017, 11:45:06 am
I hope this show will not lighten fascist reality of Meg1.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pyroxian on 11 May, 2017, 12:06:43 pm
I hope this show will not lighten fascist reality of Meg1.

I kinda hope it starts off with the Judges being the heroes - coming in to save innocent cits from perps, but then starts getting darker with the fascistic nature of the Judicial system being more exposed and then bringing in the pro-democracy storyline...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 11 May, 2017, 12:16:34 pm
Guessing of course, but if this has been given the go ahead on the strength of the loyal following of the 2012 Dredd movie, wouldn't it be a mistake to veer too far away from the look of that film?

The 2012 movie (for me) created a general aesthetic and city  that I actually now prefer to its comic counterpart. I don't think I want the city from 1995 Judge Dredd, I want 2012 Dredd.

The practical body armour was also spot on. And finally, if we are following on from the fan support of Dredd, Karl Urban would surely be the number 1 choice. I can only hope that it happens. I don't think any old actor will do just because it's only a chin and voice, that's seriously underplaying what karl urban brought to the role. He 100% nailed it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Molch-R on 11 May, 2017, 12:22:23 pm
SFX is pretty sure this won't star Karl Urban and won't be on Netflix. I know it's far too early for confirmed details, but they sound like they know something no-one else seems to - unless I've missed something...

http://www.gamesradar.com/a-judge-dredd-tv-show-is-coming-but-its-not-the-karl-urban-netflix-series-everyone-wanted/#comment-jump

Games Radar have nothing to do with SFX, the article is complete conjecture, and we've complained to editorial about it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ZenArcade on 11 May, 2017, 12:43:46 pm
I don't think any old actor will do just because it's only a chin and voice, that's seriously underplaying what karl urban brought to the role. He 100% nailed it.

What SIP said.

Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Andy Lambert on 11 May, 2017, 12:47:41 pm
Quote
Games Radar have nothing to do with SFX, the article is complete conjecture, and we've complained to editorial about it.

That'll teach me to pay more attention when searching the internet - a Google entry brought me to the following link...
http://www.gamesradar.com/sfx/

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Molch-R on 11 May, 2017, 01:04:09 pm
That'll teach me to pay more attention when searching the internet - a Google entry brought me to the following link...
http://www.gamesradar.com/sfx/

The old SFX website (run by SFX staff) was folded into Games Radar, SFX now has nothing to do with Games Radar beyond the latter occasionally posting a bit of regurgitated content from the former - and there's certainly no editorial control. We have an excellent relationship with the SFX guys, which is what makes this piece all the more disappointing.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Andy Lambert on 11 May, 2017, 01:16:19 pm
Thanks for the clarification, Molch-R - I only feel a little bit of a dork now.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: abelardsnazz on 11 May, 2017, 01:17:16 pm
I very excite.

It would be great if Karl Urban and Olivia Thirlby reprise their roles, schedules permitting. There have been dream casting lists ad infinitum, but now we seem to be a step closer, here's a few ideas:

Death - John Hawkes
Chopper - Rupert Grint
Otto Sump - Timothy Spall
Dirty Frank - Noel Fielding
Hershey - Julie Graham
Mean Machine - Vinnie Jones
Giant - John Boyega
Orlok - Mads Mikkelsen
PJ Maybe - Taron Egerton
Max Normal - Simon Pegg

The Pit would be a great initial series to adapt, showing staright away the day to day life of the city & what the Judges have to deal with, similarly Low Life. Maybe each series (wish wish) could end with one of the big stories (Cal, Apocalypse War, Day of Chaos) from the point of view of the citizens and the next series deal with how the city has changed.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Andy Lambert on 11 May, 2017, 01:25:59 pm
Doug Jones and Xavier Botet would get my vote to play the Dark Judges.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: James Stacey on 11 May, 2017, 01:33:00 pm
Well this is all rather marvelous news and gives us a few years of fevered conjecture to go on.  Would be good to have Mr Urban back and if his schedule allowed it I'm sure he'd be keen to throw his hat into the ring, the way he's championed the cause over the years. I'm disappointed Mr Wagner has had no involvement but it's early days and I'm sure he'll be called on in some capacity (if he even wants too).
Lets all get ready for the ride ... and no prejudging this time based on any leaked set photos :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 11 May, 2017, 02:22:38 pm
I don't think any old actor will do just because it's only a chin and voice, that's seriously underplaying what karl urban brought to the role. He 100% nailed it.


Agreed, and if the man's still tweeting about a role he did 6 years ago after going onto co star in Star Trek and Thor Ragnarok why wouldn't he take on Dredd again? He's proved he's perfect for the part to me, I'm sure he want's it more than anyone.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SuperSurfer on 11 May, 2017, 02:24:04 pm
One year and 364 days to go!*

*approximately
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 11 May, 2017, 02:32:41 pm
I don't think any old actor will do just because it's only a chin and voice, that's seriously underplaying what karl urban brought to the role. He 100% nailed it.


Agreed, and if the man's still tweeting about a role he did 6 years ago after going onto co star in Star Trek and Thor Ragnarok why wouldn't he take on Dredd again? He's proved he's perfect for the part to me, I'm sure he want's it more than anyone.

I agree - this is a man who clearly WANTS to play Dredd. And i really want him to as well.

Let's hope that they want to go in that direction, he's affordable and he's  available!

I feel the same way about Olivia Thirlby, perfect for the part......and i would love to see  oth of them, but it's Dredd who is pivotal rather than Anderson.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Smith on 11 May, 2017, 02:35:31 pm
Bit of a typecasting in the case of Vinnie Jones,isnt it? :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Sandman1 on 11 May, 2017, 02:36:59 pm
That is some really great news. I hope this has a snowball effect and initiates projects in other media.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 May, 2017, 02:44:48 pm
Oxford is about to become MC 1!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-oxfordshire-39877455/dredd-tv-show-telling-good-story-is-key
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: marko10174 on 11 May, 2017, 03:05:37 pm

 I think with todays social and political climate, they should really start with the democracy story lines and then introduce total war. Hell, Antifa basically are total war! There is plenty of scope for some great social commentary. "America" would be an awesome starting point. I'd love to see some"futsies" as well. Diary of a crazed citizen would make for an awesome episode. What is the name of that strip where a female citizen goes into a bar and literally beats a guy to death because she believes he stole her job? It then results in thousands of citizens going crazy as they all believe there'll be a new job opening. That strip would be great to show the bleakness of life in megacity one.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 11 May, 2017, 03:30:34 pm
Now in the Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/may/11/judge-dredd-mega-city-one-set-to-dispense-tv-justice (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/may/11/judge-dredd-mega-city-one-set-to-dispense-tv-justice)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 11 May, 2017, 05:44:03 pm
Well this is all rather marvelous news and gives us a few years of fevered conjecture to go on.  Would be good to have Mr Urban back and if his schedule allowed it I'm sure he'd be keen to throw his hat into the ring, the way he's championed the cause over the years. I'm disappointed Mr Wagner has had no involvement but it's early days and I'm sure he'll be called on in some capacity (if he even wants too).


Have I missed something, did it say Wagner had no involvement yet?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 11 May, 2017, 05:46:15 pm
I agree - this is a man who clearly WANTS to play Dredd. And i really want him to as well.

Let's hope that they want to go in that direction, he's affordable and he's  available!

I feel the same way about Olivia Thirlby, perfect for the part......and i would love to see  oth of them, but it's Dredd who is pivotal rather than Anderson.


Yep - in my ideal but realistic world Karl will continue to flourish in his film career, but will be able to slot JD: M-C1 into his schedule without breaking the fledgling show's budget.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 11 May, 2017, 05:46:31 pm

 I think with todays social and political climate, they should really start with the democracy story lines and then introduce total war. Hell, Antifa basically are total war! There is plenty of scope for some great social commentary. "America" would be an awesome starting point. I'd love to see some"futsies" as well. Diary of a crazed citizen would make for an awesome episode. What is the name of that strip where a female citizen goes into a bar and literally beats a guy to death because she believes he stole her job? It then results in thousands of citizens going crazy as they all believe there'll be a new job opening. That strip would be great to show the bleakness of life in megacity one.


Sunday Night Fever:


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Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 11 May, 2017, 05:54:17 pm
Another article

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/05/a-judge-dredd-tv-series-is-finally-going-to-happen/ (https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/05/a-judge-dredd-tv-series-is-finally-going-to-happen/)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 11 May, 2017, 07:03:53 pm
The Stallone Dredd had its good points and the Urban Dredd was a great film but neither was pure enough. I'd like to see a CGI Dredd so we can get proper big Ezquerran shoulder pads, kleggs, robots, Apocalypse wars and Karl Urban 'phoning in his lines from wherever he happens to be at the time.

Don't get me wrong, I'm extremely chuffed and excited about this but CGI would allow the extreme craziness of MC1 to shine in a way live action might find difficult.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: von Boom on 11 May, 2017, 07:27:52 pm
While CGI would give you the look you want Sharky, I think it might be taken as a mere cartoon if it was just CGI. For MC1 to be a real success it needs to be taken seriously by non-2000AD fans as well as 2000AD fans.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 May, 2017, 07:28:59 pm
I think a CGI version of Dredd would be a hard sell, especially for a presumably tonally adult show.

Live action is definitely the way to go.

And besides, is the way they are going, so the point's moot.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 11 May, 2017, 07:40:56 pm
I know, I know.

But one day somebody will make an adult CGI show that will be superb. I just wish this could be it, that's all.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 11 May, 2017, 07:42:32 pm
I wouldn't watch a cartoon. I want to see an adult show done in the style of the Battlestar Galactica remake or Game of Thrones.

Moving on, I understand the appeal of rehashing the comic stories, but if rather the writers just came up with new stories of their own. What matters is that they understand the character and his world, so I'd want them to read enough of the (Tharg not IDW) comic stories so that they "get it."
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 11 May, 2017, 07:42:52 pm
The Stallone Dredd had its good points and the Urban Dredd was a great film but neither was pure enough.

As obvious as its faults are (acting and story) it does have good points, and they're mostly design related (apart from the uniform of the main characters).  Even the costumes of all the supporting characters are excellent.  I've got the two books The Art of Judge Dredd and The Making of Judge Dredd and they're both ram-packed with superb concept sketches, set photos and stills.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 11 May, 2017, 07:45:18 pm
Moving on, I understand the appeal of rehashing the comic stories, but if rather the writers just came up with new stories of their own. What matters is that they understand the character and his world, so I'd want them to read enough of the (Tharg not IDW) comic stories so that they "get it."

I don't want to see a series of adaptations of stories from the comic either.  I want new situations, new characters (though with the odd one that we'll all recognise every now and then) and new stories.  As long as they don't focus over-long on the Cursed Earth, which the US comics seem to fixate on, or give Dredd a Santa beard (sorry Ulises).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 11 May, 2017, 09:17:26 pm
I'd like to see some of the classic material get adapted, or at least adapted in the sense of combining and remixing elements from a lot of them. When you have so many great stories to work with, might as well use them.

On an animated Dredd, I'd watch that too, but I prefer 2D animation over 3D CGI myself. Live action is even more exciting for Dredd though for me, and could still do stuff like Klegg and whatnot if they wanted to.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: A.Cow on 11 May, 2017, 10:20:07 pm
On an animated Dredd, I'd watch that too, but I prefer 2D animation over 3D CGI myself.

Personally I'd like to see them do Dredd in the same style as the old Paddington Bear TV series.

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Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 11 May, 2017, 10:50:37 pm
Guessing of course, but if this has been given the go ahead on the strength of the loyal following of the 2012 Dredd movie, wouldn't it be a mistake to veer too far away from the look of that film?

The 2012 movie (for me) created a general aesthetic and city  that I actually now prefer to its comic counterpart. I don't think I want the city from 1995 Judge Dredd, I want 2012 Dredd.

The practical body armour was also spot on. And finally, if we are following on from the fan support of Dredd, Karl Urban would surely be the number 1 choice. I can only hope that it happens. I don't think any old actor will do just because it's only a chin and voice, that's seriously underplaying what karl urban brought to the role. He 100% nailed it.



Have to disagree there.  Although I liked Dredd the city just didn't capture the feel of the comic Mega City to me and I thought that the Stallone film actually did the city much better (even though the film wasn't exactly a great Dredd film).

Same with the uniform.   It was ok but could have been much better and I thought it looked a bit cheapo.   Dredds uniform should look as cool and expensive as possible.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Beeks on 11 May, 2017, 10:51:06 pm
As has been mentioned

I think it's likely that the series won't be based on Dredd but based around Mega City One itself

That way if Urban does want to reprise Joe..he can appear sporadically..flitting in and out of the series

Hopefully this can help with his schedule

I like the idea of the 'Hill Street Blues' cop show as mentioned earlier

Based around a sector house with snapshots of their day..would really get a feel for the Big Meg and make the show more accessible to the casual viewer
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Beeks on 11 May, 2017, 10:54:35 pm
Guessing of course, but if this has been given the go ahead on the strength of the loyal following of the 2012 Dredd movie, wouldn't it be a mistake to veer too far away from the look of that film?

The 2012 movie (for me) created a general aesthetic and city  that I actually now prefer to its comic counterpart. I don't think I want the city from 1995 Judge Dredd, I want 2012 Dredd.

The practical body armour was also spot on. And finally, if we are following on from the fan support of Dredd, Karl Urban would surely be the number 1 choice. I can only hope that it happens. I don't think any old actor will do just because it's only a chin and voice, that's seriously underplaying what karl urban brought to the role. He 100% nailed it.



Have to disagree there.  Although I liked Dredd the city just didn't capture the feel of the comic Mega City to me and I thought that the Stallone film actually did the city much better (even though the film wasn't exactly a great Dredd film).

Same with the uniform.   It was ok but could have been much better and I thought it looked a bit cheapo.   Dredds uniform should look as cool and expensive as possible.

I agree the City in Stallones Dredd was impressive..but strongly disagree about the Uniform..Urban's Judge uniform was bang on IMO..practical and combat based..exactly what you would expect a future lawman to wear on the streets
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 11 May, 2017, 11:18:26 pm
Stallone's uniform was completely impractical, and not like anything law enforcement would actually wear (except as dress uniform maybe). Urban' saws designed to be something you could actually fight in, and it looked cool.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 May, 2017, 11:19:01 pm


I like the idea of the 'Hill Street Blues' cop show as mentioned earlier

Based around a sector house with snapshots of their day.


Basically an adaptation of The Pit then?

I think that would be a great way to grab the initial newbies and casual fans.

Work the more bizarre and eccentric elements of Mega-City One as the series progresses, working up to some multi-part epics for the first seasons climax.

Leave 'em wanting more!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 May, 2017, 11:22:25 pm
Stallone's uniform was completely impractical, and not like anything law enforcement would actually wear (except as dress uniform maybe). Urban' saws designed to be something you could actually fight in, and it looked cool.

The comic uniform works brilliantly in the strip, but I think the 2012 movie style works better on film, especially if it wants to be taken seriously by the uninitiated, which face it, is going to make up the majority of the audience.

For me the 2012 uniforn was the perfect combination of practicality and comic book cool.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 11 May, 2017, 11:30:57 pm
Stallone's uniform was completely impractical, and not like anything law enforcement would actually wear (except as dress uniform maybe). Urban' saws designed to be something you could actually fight in, and it looked cool.

Realism is overrated.

I don't mind the 2012 costume - but realism shouldn't be the be-all and end-all.

It can be a creative cul-de-sac, and you end up with everything looking SWAT if that's all you do.

I think there's room to get some more slight sculptural look to the pads without sacrificing practicality, get a bit of a distintive silhouette back.

More interested in the bike TBH, the costume would just be tinkering around the edges.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: jacob g on 11 May, 2017, 11:46:57 pm
Sorry but no, jest no. I love 2012 Dredd but I am tired how many comicbook inspired movies or tv series trying to distance themselves from campy design and made everything 'practical and tactical' in terms of design.

Fanmade Judge Minty showed us that you can work with classic design so wy not embrace it in future tv series.

If we have amazing sci-fi dystopy with strong symbolic visuals we should embrace it, cherish it, use it and not make it dull like some nolan wannabe bullshit.

And yes, Stallone Dredd was shit, but visuals aspects of film was the only thing I like to this day. Like I said, I love 2012 movie but this time I want more Meg crazines.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Beeks on 11 May, 2017, 11:52:13 pm
I think they will go with EXACTLY the same Aesthetic as the latest film Dredd..everything from Uniform to Lawmaster..and why not..it worked
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Stu101 on 12 May, 2017, 12:30:48 am
What's the betting on this thread overtaking the massive 879 page count of Goaty's 'Dredd (2012)' Thread?

As for the exciting news, it hasn't really sunk in yet, and the drip feed of info is going to be torture. I must ensure that I don't stumble across spoilers* in the clamour that is sure to follow every press release.

* The gif of the corrupt Judges executing Paramedic TJ sure stole the surprise when the moment came in the film!

At least this is something good to occupy some of our thoughts in these dark days of Brexit and Trump etc etc.

Any more news anyone... :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Krakajac on 12 May, 2017, 12:51:13 am
As a nod to fans, two versions of Dredd's uniform could be encorporated into the show.  A flashy, comic inspired uniform for formal dress occasions (like an Army officer might wear a mess kit to a formal event).  And a 'street' version - akin to the 2012 movie.  I can imagine a scene where Dredd is dressed in the former and getting pissed off and narky, impatient to change back into his practical street leathers and get back on the road.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 12 May, 2017, 12:53:29 am
Stallone's uniform was completely impractical, and not like anything law enforcement would actually wear (except as dress uniform maybe). Urban' saws designed to be something you could actually fight in, and it looked cool.

The comic uniform works brilliantly in the strip, but I think the 2012 movie style works better on film, especially if it wants to be taken seriously by the uninitiated, which face it, is going to make up the majority of the audience.

For me the 2012 uniforn was the perfect combination of practicality and comic book cool.

Sounds like part of the beauty of this adaptation is it doesn't need to be taken entirely seriously. They talk about how they thought the 2012 film didn't capture the satire as much as they want to here, and we have flying cars again, etc. Dredd having a stylized and impractical costume (with the full shoulder pads) is something I think they could pull off here.

Not a make or break either way, but it sounds like they're going to be trying to portray a more heightened world here, more like the comic. Which I think is best. And the viewers they'll be going for (clever ones with good taste) will still be able to take it seriously when they go serious, even if it has plenty of ridiculous elements. Awesome ridiculous elements.

Taste in costume design aside, since we're all fans of the comic here, don't we agree to some degree that we want more of what the comic is, on screen?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 May, 2017, 12:53:48 am
Certainly a very British, Pythonesque/Terry Gilliam surrealist approach to the material could be interesting.
Striking the right tonal balance, between the serious and more absurdly satirical elements will be a challenge.

Very excited to see what they cook up!  :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 12 May, 2017, 12:57:01 am
Certainly a very British, Pythonesque/Terry Gilliam surrealist approach to the material could be interesting.
Striking the right tonal balance, between the serious and more absurdly satirical elements will be a challenge.

Very excited to see what they cook up!  :)

Just rewatched Brazil a couple months ago too, Terry would a great influence to have for the look of this on film, for sure.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 12 May, 2017, 01:25:30 am
Just rewatched Brazil a couple months ago too, Terry would a great influence to have for the look of this on film, for sure.

One of my favourite films!
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Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 12 May, 2017, 01:26:27 am
What's the betting on this thread overtaking the massive 879 page count of Goaty's 'Dredd (2012)' Thread?

12 pages in a little over 24 hours, and two years to go?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Fungus on 12 May, 2017, 01:28:34 am
With 2 years to go and 500 opinions it might be wise to give this thread a wide berth. The Dredd movie thread seemed/seems interminable.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 May, 2017, 01:30:58 am
As a nod to fans, two versions of Dredd's uniform could be encorporated into the show.  A flashy, comic inspired uniform for formal dress occasions (like an Army officer might wear a mess kit to a formal event). 

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Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 12 May, 2017, 02:25:17 am
As a nod to fans, two versions of Dredd's uniform could be encorporated into the show.  A flashy, comic inspired uniform for formal dress occasions (like an Army officer might wear a mess kit to a formal event).  And a 'street' version - akin to the 2012 movie.  I can imagine a scene where Dredd is dressed in the former and getting pissed off and narky, impatient to change back into his practical street leathers and get back on the road.
I thought the same thing. No way do I want to see the Judges run around with exaggerated shoulder garment like the comics. If they are going for a proper grown up, plausible and violent show, then those would be ridiculous. By all means, the 2012 judges uniform can be tinkered with a little to give it a little bit more of a stylised look, but there's no way you should expect a street judge to perform his duty with a massive eagle and pad on each shoulder like in the comic. It'd work great as a ceremonial thing as that would work both as a little nod to the comic aesthetic as well as making some kind of real world sense. No jock strap, though.

The thing I'm more concerned about is the filming locations. If it is to be made in the UK, or near Rebellion's HQ, where will they film any outdoor sequences in the Big Meg? Surely you'd need some kind of city skyline for that like they did in Johannesburg and Cape Town?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Krakajac on 12 May, 2017, 02:55:46 am
"Surely you'd need some kind of city skyline for that like they did in Johannesburg and Cape Town?"

I guess like many sci-fi based TV series of the last decade or so - CGI will clearly play a large part in creating sweeping city vistas, etc.  Heck, it worked for the Stallone movie - and that was 22 years ago.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 May, 2017, 03:13:03 am
The thing I'm more concerned about is the filming locations. If it is to be made in the UK, or near Rebellion's HQ, where will they film any outdoor sequences in the Big Meg? Surely you'd need some kind of city skyline for that like they did in Johannesburg and Cape Town?

A small second-unit could spend a week shooting helicopter/drone shots in a foreign city that can be used as FX plates for futuristic skylines - enough to cover an entire season. They could even hire film-crews who all ready live in those cities to do it. There's piles of Vancouver stock footage since so many shows shoot there and it's a very modern looking city.

Doesn't matter where interiors are.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 12 May, 2017, 03:47:00 am
Guessing of course, but if this has been given the go ahead on the strength of the loyal following of the 2012 Dredd movie, wouldn't it be a mistake to veer too far away from the look of that film?

The 2012 movie (for me) created a general aesthetic and city  that I actually now prefer to its comic counterpart. I don't think I want the city from 1995 Judge Dredd, I want 2012 Dredd.

The practical body armour was also spot on. And finally, if we are following on from the fan support of Dredd, Karl Urban would surely be the number 1 choice. I can only hope that it happens. I don't think any old actor will do just because it's only a chin and voice, that's seriously underplaying what karl urban brought to the role. He 100% nailed it.



Have to disagree there.  Although I liked Dredd the city just didn't capture the feel of the comic Mega City to me and I thought that the Stallone film actually did the city much better (even though the film wasn't exactly a great Dredd film).

Same with the uniform.   It was ok but could have been much better and I thought it looked a bit cheapo.   Dredds uniform should look as cool and expensive as possible.

I agree the City in Stallones Dredd was impressive..but strongly disagree about the Uniform..Urban's Judge uniform was bang on IMO..practical and combat based..exactly what you would expect a future lawman to wear on the streets




I'm all for making the uniform something that could be worn as a real uniform but I thought it was too different from the comic.  Look at this photo here..........


https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/10/15612444/judge-dredd-television-show-im-global-2000-ad


I think it looks a bit cheap and ugly.   I know there's been many an argument about the helmet and uniform in general but I just don't think it was very well done.   The helmet looks odd (the cross is right in front of his eyes plus too thick and it looks further odd without the lighter band underneath the eyes) and those rounded shoulder pads look just wrong to me.   

I'm not the biggest Stallone film fan but apart from the codpiece I thought the uniform was more authentic to the comics.   They had the eagle shoulder pad but Stallones arm could move freely underneath it as it had movable segments so it was like a real uniform too.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 12 May, 2017, 03:58:18 am
Stallone's uniform was completely impractical, and not like anything law enforcement would actually wear (except as dress uniform maybe). Urban' saws designed to be something you could actually fight in, and it looked cool.

Realism is overrated.

I don't mind the 2012 costume - but realism shouldn't be the be-all and end-all.

It can be a creative cul-de-sac, and you end up with everything looking SWAT if that's all you do.

I think there's room to get some more slight sculptural look to the pads without sacrificing practicality, get a bit of a distintive silhouette back.

More interested in the bike TBH, the costume would just be tinkering around the edges.



Interesting points.  I think getting the uniform and Lawmaster are both highly important.   I've actually seen people saying that the main thing that matters is getting the character right and those things are secondary.   Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  They're ALL equally important!

What you say about the distinctive silhouette is bang on though.   The 2012 Dredd uniform just didn't have that distinctive powerful looking Judge uniform silhouette.   There was no eagle jutting out and the uniform looked baggy with round shoulders.   I really hope they don't use the same uniforms from Dredd if Urban comes back.   

I think this should definitely look more like the comics.  They can make the uniform realistic without changing it to much like they did in Dredd.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 12 May, 2017, 07:00:46 am
I'd definitely prefer a more Ezquerran look for the judges' uniforms. The design isn't just about practicality but about dominance. In MC1 the Law has practically become God so the uniforms must convey the power of the judges as well as being practical.

I agree that Stallone's uniform, codpiece and spandex aside, was a better Judge Dredd uniform than Urban's, which was more like S.W.A.T. 2120.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Magnetica on 12 May, 2017, 07:06:52 am
How about going for the original look from the very early Progs, for the eagle and shoulder pad? I.e. when they were much smaller than today. Would still be authentic to the comic and more practical than how it is now depicted.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 12 May, 2017, 07:13:36 am
How about going for the original look from the very early Progs, for the eagle and shoulder pad? I.e. when they were much smaller than today. Would still be authentic to the comic and more practical than how it is now depicted.

Quite a lot like the 2012 costume, you mean? All they really did was turn the eagle into a motif, added some (OK, a lot) of armour, and took away the badge chain which, even if easily detachable (which it's never been shown to be), is a bit of a daft thing to have in hand-to-hand combat.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 07:16:15 am
Wow, can't understand any of the negative comments on the 2012 costume. That thing was as near as perfect a modern realistic representation of a judges uniform you could get. It certainly didn't look cheap and there is a lot of detail in there. Lastly, it just looked complete bad ass. More of this please!!!

Puzzled!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Magnetica on 12 May, 2017, 07:25:31 am
How about going for the original look from the very early Progs, for the eagle and shoulder pad? I.e. when they were much smaller than today. Would still be authentic to the comic and more practical than how it is now depicted.

Quite a lot like the 2012 costume, you mean? All they really did was turn the eagle into a motif, added some (OK, a lot) of armour, and took away the badge chain which, even if easily detachable (which it's never been shown to be), is a bit of a daft thing to have in hand-to-hand combat.

Er...yeah...you could put it that way...just make the eagle stand out a bit more and you're there.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dredd Head on 12 May, 2017, 08:32:46 am
Actually can't wait for this   :o   My GF who isn't a fan of comics in any way loved dredd (2012) and she was quite excited about this when I told her about it. Hopefully other non comic fans feel the same.

Also in terms of the uniform I think Urban's uniform was perfect other than the lack of the shoulder eagle
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: James Stacey on 12 May, 2017, 09:04:26 am
...  I'm disappointed Mr Wagner has had no involvement but it's early days and I'm sure he'll be called on in some capacity (if he even wants too).

Have I missed something, did it say Wagner had no involvement yet?
John mentioned it on Facebook
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: jacob g on 12 May, 2017, 09:20:48 am
Wow, can't understand any of the negative comments on the 2012 costume. That thing was as near as perfect a modern realistic representation of a judges uniform you could get.

And that's the problem. Dredd loose too much of itself in being realistic just for the sake of modern cbm audience. They created tactical suits for movie, I get it, it works for this two hours, but I hoped that sequell would go in more brave directions (hoped, heh). They make him practical but not iconic, ok, Dredd was spot on action movie but this was a small part of what made JD interesting for me. There was little craziness in this movie, there was no dark humour, no serious political commentary, and I think that Dredd uniform is part of this - craziness and politics, his uniform screams "fascist sci-fi cop".

You know, Mad Max still can be crazy rolercoaster without trying to sacrifice his awesomeness for need of realism, damn, they are crazier as the Miller grows older. So, since JD is close to my heart as much as George Miller creation I hope that TV series will embrace inner fury road and just be bold and awesome and big in imaginery.

Just my small opinion, but whatever works, I know I trust Rebellion so I'll be content whatever road they choose probably.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Keef Monkey on 12 May, 2017, 09:31:21 am
I'm with the pro-2012 uniform folk too! I adore the look of that movie, and the uniform was perfect for the film and now feels iconic in its own right. It translates both ways too - when I read the Dredd sequel comics (Underbelly etc.) it always strikes me how great that look works in the comics. Love it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Magnetica on 12 May, 2017, 09:33:03 am
For me the most important thing is to get the tone right. The comic does everything from black comedy, to police procedural, to war, to political thriller, to horror.

It works in the comic so I guess it can work on the box, but I guess It is going to require a lot of skill to incorporate all of that and make it consistent.

If Karl Urban can commit to appearing in most episodes then great, but if not I would rather they went for some one else. But hey, bigger movie stars than him have done long runs in TV shows. Martin Sheen and Kevin Spacey come most readily to mind ( and Kiefer Sutherland).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 09:38:34 am
The comic uniform would just look daft if translated to the screen literally. Dredd would not be able to move. Why would we want to see a bunch of judges hapless ly lumbering around under the weight of their absurd knee pads and shoulder armour. Mad max does have absurdity in it, but it all works practically.

The 2012 dredd armour contains every element of the comic uniform, it's all there, but it's done with an excellent practical approach that, Imo, makes the uniform so much better. The mighty Jock worked on that, and that's good enough for me.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 09:57:05 am
....and in case anyone wants to argue the 1995 uniform - it looked daft! And they couldn't wait to get the armour off the judges because it was clearly restrictive. It's only the opening scene that really features any judges with all the shoulder armour on (and they looked restricted). Hershey and Dredd spend most of the rest of the film without the armour.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 12 May, 2017, 10:05:32 am
Although the 1995 film had some really nice production design elements (most notably Mean), I'm really not on board with the uniform being one of them. Although it in some ways echoed the comic book, I don't see it as having done so in a manner especially more in keeping with the original than the 2012 movie. Its primarily advantage over the Urban flick is the shoulder silhouette, which is quite nicely domineering, but that's really it. The helmet is off (although, to my mind, not inferior); the eagle is overly simplified (no body/legs) and only Dredd has one (and, ENTIRELY COINCIDENTALLY, another Judge he nicks the uniform off of later); it smacks of 'costume' rather than 'practicality'; it's lycra rather than something that looks tough; there are no below beds; it's absurdly shiny, including the boots and gloves; there's a fucking codpiece.

To my mind, the 2012 uniform was an interesting modern take that cleverly incorporated all of the major facets of the comic strip, including the eagle pad (which along with the other armour recalled Ezquerra's original Dredd design). Elsewhere, 1995 got the city kind of right (despite very obviously re-dressing the same chunk of set repeatedly) compared to 2012's much drabber 'ten minutes into the future' effort (although I did like the black humour within, such as the announcement about the food court reopening while the little robot cleans up the blood), and neither bike much resembled the comic's version.

But the feel, as others have said, is ultimately the most important thing. Something can look like the original, but unless it has strong, relevant writing, what's the point? 2012 nailed Dredd in that regard. (And while we can all argue it didn't have much of the wackiness in early Dredd, nor a great deal of humour, it was a 90-minute film. First, we saw what happened in 1995 when they tried to cram everything in. Secondly, Dredd in the comic has various kinds of approaches. That, judging by the Rebellion video posted online, is something that can more easily be addressed in a TV show with several episodes than a focussed 90-minute movie.)

EDIT: on 1995's movie, it's interesting to see some of the production design, which was closer in nature to where the 2012 film ended up:

(https://i1.wp.com/comics-x-aminer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/dredd8.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: TordelBack on 12 May, 2017, 10:16:02 am
Oh this is sure stirring up some ghosts for me.
She said "There's one thing you've got to learn
Is not to be afraid of it."
I said "No, I like it, I like it, it's good."
She said "You like it now
But you'll learn to love it later."
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 12 May, 2017, 10:20:26 am
the eagle is overly simplified (no body/legs) and only Dredd has one (and, ENTIRELY COINCIDENTALLY, another Judge he nicks the uniform off of later)

Originally, the eagle was supposed to indicate senior rank and it was decided quite late in the day that only Dredd was going to have one, in order to make him look more individual (rather missing the point… again).

You can actually see that there other judges with eagles at the end of the movie:

(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb36/jimcampbell2000/Dredd_Eagles_zpsf09363b3.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 12 May, 2017, 10:21:51 am
5 years later and we still talking about uniform and Mega City One buildings.

1995's Judge Dredd was shite!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 12 May, 2017, 10:36:07 am
The comic uniform would just look daft if translated to the screen literally.

Not really. Go to any convention and have a gander at the Planet Replicas judges walking about.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Spaceghost on 12 May, 2017, 10:54:35 am
The comic uniform would just look daft if translated to the screen literally.

Not really. Go to any convention and have a gander at the Planet Replicas judges walking about.

Walking about, yes, they look fantastic. 10 seconds into a fight with a futsed up street juve and both those pads would be lying on the floor and the Judge would be strangled by their own neck chain.

I really liked the 2012 movie uniform, but it wouldn't have been a bad idea to just beef up the shoulder pads a bit. It would have been perfect then.

As far as content for the new show, I'd LOVE to see Chopper as a regular character, showing his rise from frustrated scrawler to skysurfing hero of the people. Add in an ongoing 'America' storyline, random Mega City craziness a la The Graveyard Shift, chuck in Citizen Snork and Otto Sump for light relief, then end the season on a multi-part epic (The Cursed Earth or Block War) and I'll be in heaven.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pyroxian on 12 May, 2017, 10:59:32 am
I'd save Cursed Earth for a whole series (or at least 2/3rds of one). Possibly mixed in with The Dead Man, with it leading into Necropolis for the next series (having already introduced Death and The Dark Judges in smaller 2-3 episode arcs)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: pauljholden on 12 May, 2017, 11:18:03 am
The comic uniform would just look daft if translated to the screen literally.

Not really. Go to any convention and have a gander at the Planet Replicas judges walking about.

Walking about, yes, they look fantastic. 10 seconds into a fight with a futsed up street juve and both those pads would be lying on the floor and the Judge would be strangled by their own neck chain..

I mean, you know if they were to fight in those uniforms in a tv show it... it wouldn't be a real fight...?



-PJ
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 12 May, 2017, 11:26:51 am
I seem to recall comments by Karl Urban that the 2012 costumes are pretty restrictive as well.

I think there's a half/half solution - I'd beef up the pads a little and slim down the armour, no chain.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Spaceghost on 12 May, 2017, 11:29:51 am
The comic uniform would just look daft if translated to the screen literally.

Not really. Go to any convention and have a gander at the Planet Replicas judges walking about.

Walking about, yes, they look fantastic. 10 seconds into a fight with a futsed up street juve and both those pads would be lying on the floor and the Judge would be strangled by their own neck chain..

I mean, you know if they were to fight in those uniforms in a tv show it... it wouldn't be a real fight...?



-PJ

Yes PJ, I understand that *withering glare*, but what I mean is they look like they they wouldn't stand up to much punishment or look very convincing on-screen as suitable attire for law enforcement officers on the front line in the most violent, crime-ridden city on Earth, which the 2012 uniform very much did. Just get the shoulder pads pumped up and it'd be perfect.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 11:36:18 am
The comic uniform would just look daft if translated to the screen literally.

Not really. Go to any convention and have a gander at the Planet Replicas judges walking about.

I've been to a couple of conventions so far this year, and the 2012 Dredd cosplay looks much better.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: von Boom on 12 May, 2017, 11:37:38 am
I'm afraid I'm very much in the pro-Eagle camp. I know it looks daft in practical terms, but I think MC1 should have a bit of daftness about it. Too many programmes take themselves too seriously, too quickly and end up mired in their effort to continually come up with grimmer and more unsettling story lines. I'll forego some realism if I can have a lasting and entertaining Dredd show. I'd pay any network/service any money for that.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: jacob g on 12 May, 2017, 11:53:36 am
The comic uniform would just look daft if translated to the screen literally.

Like I said, uniforms in Judge Minty looked great.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 11:54:44 am
I think what I'm finding odd on this thread is that after 5 years of paying to see Dredd whenever possible on the cinema, buying multiple copies (still ongoing.....4k and mondo copy purchased) of the film, buying the book, buying the continuation of the film in comics (multiple times), buying all available merchandise, signing up for petitions....like we have all done....the huge support that the fanbase has given the 2012 film that has all helped contribute to make this TV series a reality, what results is a lot of comment that appears to add up to "yeah, but don't make it like the 2012 film". So, change the city, change the tone, change the vehicles, change the suit, doesn't matter who plays Dredd.......really??!

I love Dredd, and I love the 2012 Dredd film. I would hope that this series is close to the 2012 film in EVERY aspect. Didnt we want the Dredd continuation? That's why we have all been shouting for this since Dredd failed financially surely?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 12 May, 2017, 11:54:59 am
It's going to be a long two years.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 12 May, 2017, 11:57:00 am
I think what I'm finding odd on this thread is that after 5 years of paying to see Dredd whenever possible on the cinema, buying multiple copies (still ongoing.....4k and mondo copy purchased) of the film, buying the book, buying the continuation of the film in comics (multiple times), buying all available merchandise, signing up for petitions....like we have all done....the huge support that the fanbase has given the 2012 film that has all helped to make this TV series a reality, what results is a lot of comment that appears to add up to "yeah, but don't make it like the 2012 film". So, change the city, change the tone, change the vehicles, change the suit, doesn't matter who plays Dredd.......really??!

I love Dredd, and I love the 2012 Dredd film. I would hope that this series is close to the 2012 film in EVERY aspect. That's why we have all been shouting for this since Dredd failed financially surely?

That will be the film that bombed at the box office, yes?

I like 2012 Dredd, but I wouldn't say it couldn't be improved on - I have more love for the 40 years of comics than a single film.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: TordelBack on 12 May, 2017, 11:58:32 am
10 seconds into a fight with a futsed up street juve and both those pads would be lying on the floor and the Judge would be strangled by their own neck chain.

I think you're forgetting the superadhesive properties of spacevelcroTM, and the combat advantages of 15 years in the toughest school on Earth.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 11:59:42 am
The reason for its failure at the box office has been long debated, basically with the conclusion that it's financial failure was a travesty and not indicative of its quality. It is objectively an excellent film.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 12 May, 2017, 12:04:46 pm
The thing about the pads is, we're talking about the future. The pads could have the weight and flexibility of foam rubber. Now, if you think that's daft, composite metal foams (https://news.ncsu.edu/2016/04/metal-foam-tough-2016/) capable of turning an armour-piercing bullet into dust on impact already exist. By Dredd's time, shoulder pads as lightweight as foam rubber and tougher than kevlar could easily exist, allowing for properly attired judges to exist as well.

Another thing that needs addressing is the Lawgiver - another thing that doesn't make much sense. Having ammo clips stuffed with (at least) six different types of bullet is completely impractical. This is easily sci-fi-solved, however, by having every bullet in the ammo clip of the same basic type. A mechanism in the Lawgiver itself could instantly rearrange each bullet's molecular structure into any one of (at least) six pre-programmed configurations.

As for the badge chain - yes, that's silly but looks cool.

Urban's uniform was good enough for that particular film - which I love - but it's as "not Dredd" as Stallone's uniform, just in a different way.

We can have Ezquerran judges if we want - I really hope we get them!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: TordelBack on 12 May, 2017, 12:05:30 pm
The reason for its failure at the box office has been long debated, basically with the conclusion that it's financial failure was a travesty and not indicative of its quality. It is objectively an excellent film.

Something you couldn't really say about Buffy TVS or Stargate*, and those survived the transition from underperforming movie to successful TV sequeldom with few changes (flying vampires and gut parasites pretty much it..).



*Although I now see Stargate took $200m worldwide.  Blimey!  I remember it as a dud with only one nice practical creature effect and Kurt Russell to recommend it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 12 May, 2017, 12:07:23 pm
Everything SIP has said on this thread is spot on. I want the TV series to be stylistically as close to the 2012 film as possible (except with better vehicles, and some roads in the sky between the blocks).

I do understand why people want the eagle to be more prominent, but I recall reading that when they tried it it was too cumbersome. They want a uniform that you could fight and roll around in. If the pad was any bigger you couldn't even raise your arms above your shoulders.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 12 May, 2017, 12:08:29 pm
People didn't see the film because they didn't know it was on. It's a marketing issue. People who have seen it like it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: TordelBack on 12 May, 2017, 12:11:34 pm
A mechanism in the Lawgiver itself could instantly rearrange each bullet's molecular structure into any one of (at least) six pre-programmed configurations.

3D printer in the handgrip.  Sure while we're at it just have the rounds teleport into the chamber as needed... I didn't see much evidence of handheld on-the-fly molecular restructuring in the movie's transit-van-heavy near-future, but maybe in the MC-1 that poster hints at...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 12 May, 2017, 12:15:28 pm
Just a brief electromagnetic field to rearrange the molecules in the bullet. The printer idea's a good one - but maybe for large-scale cannons. (I may have to steal that idea!)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: CalHab on 12 May, 2017, 12:18:46 pm
A mechanism in the Lawgiver itself could instantly rearrange each bullet's molecular structure into any one of (at least) six pre-programmed configurations.

3D printer in the handgrip.  Sure while we're at it just have the rounds teleport into the chamber as needed... I didn't see much evidence of handheld on-the-fly molecular restructuring in the movie's transit-van-heavy near-future, but maybe in the MC-1 that poster hints at...

Do we really need an explanation for how the Lawgiver works? The comic seems to have got by for 40 years without one. I'd rather they devoted time to character and plot.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: WhizzBang on 12 May, 2017, 12:19:37 pm
People didn't see the film because they didn't know it was on. It's a marketing issue. People who have seen it like it.
I didn't see it and I knew it was on. Being a member of this board, I am obviously a fan of Dredd but I have yet to see the 2012 film because I just don't like the 'look' of it. I understand it to be very good from everyone's opinion but it just doesn't interest me. There must be many other people less aware of Dredd than myself who would similaraly glance at it and think it is not for them.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 12 May, 2017, 12:19:49 pm
2012 Dredd just like the first Judge Dredd story, it will grow and improve with uniform and Mega-City One (they got to fill up all those space!)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 12:21:26 pm
People didn't see the film because they didn't know it was on. It's a marketing issue. People who have seen it like it.
I didn't see it and I knew it was on. Being a member of this board, I am obviously a fan of Dredd but I have yet to see the 2012 film because I just don't like the 'look' of it. I understand it to be very good from everyone's opinion but it just doesn't interest me. There must be many other people less aware of Dredd than myself who would similaraly glance at it and think it is not for them.

Can't understand this at all.....it's baffling.

It's a fantastic Judge Dredd film, you are a Dredd fan. What's not to fancy??
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 12 May, 2017, 12:25:55 pm
This is why Pat Mills was right when he said creators and editors should ignore what the fans think and just do what they think is best.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 May, 2017, 12:29:40 pm
Certainly a very British, Pythonesque/Terry Gilliam surrealist approach to the material could be interesting.
Striking the right tonal balance, between the serious and more absurdly satirical elements will be a challenge.

Very excited to see what they cook up!  :)

Just rewatched Brazil a couple months ago too, Terry would a great influence to have for the look of this on film, for sure.

Yeah, Brazil was exactly what I was thinking of!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 12:29:57 pm
This is why Pat Mills was right when he said creators and editors should ignore what the fans think and just do what they think is best.

In the main, probably the right approach!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 May, 2017, 12:30:21 pm
Just rewatched Brazil a couple months ago too, Terry would a great influence to have for the look of this on film, for sure.

One of my favourite films!
(http://www.fanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/tuttle_3.jpg)

Yeah, it's a classic!  :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 12:31:03 pm
Certainly a very British, Pythonesque/Terry Gilliam surrealist approach to the material could be interesting.
Striking the right tonal balance, between the serious and more absurdly satirical elements will be a challenge.

Very excited to see what they cook up!  :)

Just rewatched Brazil a couple months ago too, Terry would a great influence to have for the look of this on film, for sure.

Yeah, Brazil was exactly what I was thinking of!  :thumbsup:

Eeesh, I really wouldn't want this!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 May, 2017, 12:39:56 pm
Certainly a very British, Pythonesque/Terry Gilliam surrealist approach to the material could be interesting.
Striking the right tonal balance, between the serious and more absurdly satirical elements will be a challenge.

Very excited to see what they cook up!  :)

Just rewatched Brazil a couple months ago too, Terry would a great influence to have for the look of this on film, for sure.

Yeah, Brazil was exactly what I was thinking of!  :thumbsup:

Eeesh, I really wouldn't want this!

I'm not talking the look necessarily more on the tone on how the film balanced humour, satire with Orwellian horror.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 May, 2017, 12:40:56 pm
People didn't see the film because they didn't know it was on. It's a marketing issue. People who have seen it like it.
I didn't see it and I knew it was on. Being a member of this board, I am obviously a fan of Dredd but I have yet to see the 2012 film because I just don't like the 'look' of it. I understand it to be very good from everyone's opinion but it just doesn't interest me. There must be many other people less aware of Dredd than myself who would similaraly glance at it and think it is not for them.

One of the most surprising comments I've read!

I can't see as a confessed Dredd fan you wouldn't want to watch it!
Perplexing, to say the least!
What if you don't like the "look" of the TV show, you going to skip that too?  :o
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 12 May, 2017, 12:41:59 pm
Do we really need an explanation for how the Lawgiver works?
Yes.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 12:42:44 pm
Certainly a very British, Pythonesque/Terry Gilliam surrealist approach to the material could be interesting.
Striking the right tonal balance, between the serious and more absurdly satirical elements will be a challenge.

Very excited to see what they cook up!  :)

Just rewatched Brazil a couple months ago too, Terry would a great influence to have for the look of this on film, for sure.

Yeah, Brazil was exactly what I was thinking of!  :thumbsup:

Eeesh, I really wouldn't want this!

I'm not talking the look necessarily more on the tone on how the film balanced humour, satire with Orwellian horror.

Admittedly, I do seem to be in a minority here, but I'm really not a fan of Brazil.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 May, 2017, 12:43:31 pm
Certainly a very British, Pythonesque/Terry Gilliam surrealist approach to the material could be interesting.
Striking the right tonal balance, between the serious and more absurdly satirical elements will be a challenge.

Very excited to see what they cook up!  :)

Just rewatched Brazil a couple months ago too, Terry would a great influence to have for the look of this on film, for sure.

Yeah, Brazil was exactly what I was thinking of!  :thumbsup:

Eeesh, I really wouldn't want this!

I'm not talking the look necessarily more on the tone on how the film balanced humour, satire with Orwellian horror.

Admittedly, I do seem to be in a minority here, but I'm really not a fan of Brazil.

Whoah Nelly!!!  :o
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Satanist on 12 May, 2017, 12:44:21 pm
Certainly a very British, Pythonesque/Terry Gilliam surrealist approach to the material could be interesting.
Striking the right tonal balance, between the serious and more absurdly satirical elements will be a challenge.

Very excited to see what they cook up!  :)

Just rewatched Brazil a couple months ago too, Terry would a great influence to have for the look of this on film, for sure.

Yeah, Brazil was exactly what I was thinking of!  :thumbsup:

Eeesh, I really wouldn't want this!

I'm not talking the look necessarily more on the tone on how the film balanced humour, satire with Orwellian horror.

Admittedly, I do seem to be in a minority here, but I'm really not a fan of Brazil.

Ban request!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 12:45:49 pm
I was preparing for backlash.......😊

Pretty much didn't like anything about the film 😂
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 01:00:54 pm
Brazil is one of those films that I've watched and wondered what I had missed that everyone else saw that often earns it the "best film ever made" comments......so I rewatch thinking it'll suddenly click with me. Still not taken to it at this point.

Oh, i also really don't like Taxi driver. Something I am also assured is "the best film ever!".

Anyway, Dredd TV series, awesome!!! 😊
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Magnetica on 12 May, 2017, 01:05:18 pm
I've posted it before (and got pelters ) and I'll repeat it here:

Brazil is my least favourite film. Of all time.

Please don't make Judge Dredd Mega City One like it. In anyway. Whatsoever.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 01:06:03 pm
I've posted it before (and got pelters ) and I'll repeat it here:

Brazil is my least favourite film. Of all time.

Please don't make Judge Dredd Mega City One like it. In anyway. Whatsoever.

Yay! It's not just me. Seconded.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Beeks on 12 May, 2017, 01:15:03 pm
People didn't see the film because they didn't know it was on. It's a marketing issue. People who have seen it like it.
I didn't see it and I knew it was on. Being a member of this board, I am obviously a fan of Dredd but I have yet to see the 2012 film because I just don't like the 'look' of it. I understand it to be very good from everyone's opinion but it just doesn't interest me. There must be many other people less aware of Dredd than myself who would similaraly glance at it and think it is not for them.

Im sorry but that's just plain weird

You're a Dredd/2000ad fan who has never seen the 2012 film because it doesn't interest you?!

Absolutely bizarre
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 12 May, 2017, 01:25:52 pm
Good to see the bickering is beginning to slowly bubble up. My only question is whats taking so long, its all still quite civil...

First I hope they made this, then I hope it gets picked up (not sure which way round this goes actually), then I hope I get to see it, then I hope I like it in whatever form it takes.

Most importantly I hope they sell more comics and books off the back of it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ming on 12 May, 2017, 01:39:52 pm
Amazing, grin-inducing news - very much looking forward to seeing where this goes from here!

As for the pros, cons, practicalities and restrictions versus realism of the various iterations of the Judge uniforms, the only way to be sure is to arrange for an all-in bundle at a convention somewhere, with a Stallone vs. 2012 vs. Planet Replica cosplayer Battle Royale.  Actually I'd probably pay good money to see that.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 12 May, 2017, 02:06:33 pm
People didn't see the film because they didn't know it was on. It's a marketing issue. People who have seen it like it.


I know plenty of people who did know it was on and did want to see it, but didn't because there was a woeful lack of 2d showings to view.  Even in a city whose metropolitan area (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_area#United_Kingdom) contains a quarter of the population of the country, I could only find one cinema which showed it in 2d (which I visited, twice, along with watching it at a few city centre cinemas).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 12 May, 2017, 02:07:45 pm
Brazil is one of those films that I've watched and wondered what I had missed that everyone else saw that often earns it the "best film ever made" comments......so I rewatch thinking it'll suddenly click with me. Still not taken to it at this point.

Oh, i also really don't like Taxi driver. Something I am also assured is "the best film ever!".

Anyway, Dredd TV series, awesome!!! 😊


Maybe you just don't like Robert de Niro?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 12 May, 2017, 02:13:37 pm
Not a huge fan of the 2012 film here either, though it has grown on me over subsequent viewings. I'm sure a compromise between the 2012 uniform and something a bit more like the comics could be found easily enough. It has to look practical, no question- but it doesn't have to BE practical. After all, no one troubles to break their piss laughing at the berk in the rubber bat suit, despite the fact that he can obviously barely move. It LOOKS like scary armour, and our suspension of disbelief does the rest.

Personally, I hope we get what is effectively Mega City NCIS, with an ensemble cast, futuristic crimes, and with Dredd in the Gibbs role- always there, but not necessarily the focus.

SBT
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 02:15:13 pm
Brazil is one of those films that I've watched and wondered what I had missed that everyone else saw that often earns it the "best film ever made" comments......so I rewatch thinking it'll suddenly click with me. Still not taken to it at this point.

Oh, i also really don't like Taxi driver. Something I am also assured is "the best film ever!".

Anyway, Dredd TV series, awesome!!! 😊


Maybe you just don't like Robert de Niro?

No, it's not that. I love De Niro in Casino, Goodfellas, Godfather 2, Heat etc ......though I prefer Al Pacino.

 I watched it Brazil quite recently and I would also say that it looks really cheap and has dated horribly in comparison to some similarly aged films. Blade Runner and Alien however both still look incredible.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 02:17:31 pm
Not a huge fan of the 2012 film here either, though it has grown on me over subsequent viewings. I'm sure a compromise between the 2012 uniform and something a bit more like the comics could be found easily enough. It has to look practical, no question- but it doesn't have to BE practical. After all, no one troubles to break their piss laughing at the berk in the rubber bat suit, despite the fact that he can obviously barely move. It LOOKS like scary armour, and our suspension of disbelief does the rest.

Personally, I hope we get what is effectively Mega City NCIS, with an ensemble cast, futuristic crimes, and with Dredd in the Gibbs role- always there, but not necessarily the focus.

SBT

I think that is exactly what 2012 Dredd did though. I don't think the actors found the outfits at all practical to work in, but they did LOOK practical.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 12 May, 2017, 02:19:44 pm
Brazil is one of those films that I've watched and wondered what I had missed that everyone else saw that often earns it the "best film ever made" comments......so I rewatch thinking it'll suddenly click with me. Still not taken to it at this point.

Oh, i also really don't like Taxi driver. Something I am also assured is "the best film ever!".

Anyway, Dredd TV series, awesome!!! 😊


Maybe you just don't like Robert de Niro?

No, it's not that. I love De Niro in Casino, Goodfellas, Godfather 2, Heat etc ......though I prefer Al Pacino.

 I watched it Brazil quite recently and I would also say that it looks really cheap and has dated horribly in comparison to some similarly aged films. Blade Runner and Alien however both still look incredible.

I suspect that's more budget constraints (or just... Ridley Scott).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 02:26:16 pm
Brazil is one of those films that I've watched and wondered what I had missed that everyone else saw that often earns it the "best film ever made" comments......so I rewatch thinking it'll suddenly click with me. Still not taken to it at this point.

Oh, i also really don't like Taxi driver. Something I am also assured is "the best film ever!".

Anyway, Dredd TV series, awesome!!! 😊


Maybe you just don't like Robert de Niro?

No, it's not that. I love De Niro in Casino, Goodfellas, Godfather 2, Heat etc ......though I prefer Al Pacino.

 I watched it Brazil quite recently and I would also say that it looks really cheap and has dated horribly in comparison to some similarly aged films. Blade Runner and Alien however both still look incredible.

I suspect that's more budget constraints (or just... Ridley Scott).

Brazil was more expensive than Alien, though allegedly cheaper than Blade Runner. Dredd was a relatively low budget production (by Hollywood sci fi film standards), but certainly doesn't look cheap.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 May, 2017, 02:29:45 pm
Brazil was more expensive than Alien, though allegedly cheaper than Blade Runner.

Brazil is a more complex film logistically with more locations/scenes/action than either Alien or Blade Runner. It's also a different style - as in Gilliam has a certain frenetic and anarchic attitude to FX that works better when looking a bit more traditional. He's the opposite of the realism of Ridley Scott.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 02:36:09 pm
Perhaps on reflection I should not have compared it to those other films. I should just have made the comment that it has dated horribly.

It would be fair to say that I'm not really a Gilliam as director fan full stop.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SuperSurfer on 12 May, 2017, 02:45:55 pm
Part of the excitement for me is waiting to see what the look of the show is, Judge attire included. Too boring to keep to the same 2012 look. Not criticising the 2012 uniform. It was an excellent interpretation. But it was very much super bike cop. On duty in a sector house I wonder if they need full bike gear. Minus the armour that just leaves leathers. Also, the 2012 uniform is seared into my memory as being worn by rather, er… rotund middle aged blokes at conventions. Time for a new look.

As for who will play Dredd, they already have Karl Urban's inside leg measurement so they might as well go with him and get on with making the uniform.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 May, 2017, 02:50:44 pm
If you're looking for the harder looking, designer sci-fi of Ridley Scott then you might think it's dated but while Brazil has its flaws, it's still more inventive than just about any Ridley Scott film - and that aspect hasn't really dated.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 May, 2017, 02:52:18 pm


I don't care what the Judges uniform looks like as long as it works.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 02:53:56 pm
If you're looking for the harder looking, designer sci-fi of Ridley Scott then you might think it's dated but while Brazil has its flaws, it's still more inventive than just about any Ridley Scott film - and that aspect hasn't really dated.

I can agree that is filed with invention, but I didn't enjoy it.
Each to their own!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 12 May, 2017, 02:58:50 pm
I don't really care about the uniform or city or stories either so long, as you say, as they work. I'd prefer an Ezquerran/Wagnerian approach, obviously, but I'm not going to moan and boycott the thing if I don't get what I want. Please Grud, just let it be good.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 12 May, 2017, 03:24:32 pm
Meh... This guy really loves Agents of SHIELD?

http://nerdist.com/judge-dredd-mega-city-one-tv-show-fancasting/ (http://nerdist.com/judge-dredd-mega-city-one-tv-show-fancasting/)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 12 May, 2017, 07:02:32 pm
Hoping it's a certain platform so we can have the headline 'Netflix and Thrill'
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 12 May, 2017, 08:36:25 pm
One big happy family...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOSuMnyD6E8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOSuMnyD6E8)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 May, 2017, 08:48:05 pm
One big happy family...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOSuMnyD6E8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOSuMnyD6E8)

Well done Steve, something for everyone!

Peace and harmony restored!!!  :lol: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ZenArcade on 12 May, 2017, 08:49:53 pm
Always interesting on here.  Corners well fought. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 12 May, 2017, 09:24:02 pm
Just had a scary thought, what if it's based on IDW's Dredd.

filippo
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 12 May, 2017, 09:28:32 pm
I never reading IDW's Dredd. How badly was it?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 12 May, 2017, 09:31:35 pm
Just had a scary thought, what if it's based on IDW's Dredd.

filippo

Why would it be?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 12 May, 2017, 09:32:10 pm
The comic uniform would just look daft if translated to the screen literally. Dredd would not be able to move. Why would we want to see a bunch of judges hapless ly lumbering around under the weight of their absurd knee pads and shoulder armour. Mad max does have absurdity in it, but it all works practically.

The 2012 dredd armour contains every element of the comic uniform, it's all there, but it's done with an excellent practical approach that, Imo, makes the uniform so much better. The mighty Jock worked on that, and that's good enough for me.




Obviously the uniform can't have the huge bulky shoulder pads etc he has in the comic but I still think they could do something more like the comic and still make it like a real uniform.

Again apart from the lack of a cross on the helmet, the shape of the helmet and the codpiece I thought the Stallone uniform was more along the lines of what the Dredd uniform should have been.

It was obvious they were trying to distance the 2012 film from the Stallone film but they went a bit too far imo.   I'm not totally knocking the Dredd uniform and it is a bit like the early comics but again I think it looks a bit cheap, bulky  (I really don't like the oversized neck ring) and slightly odd.

Maybe something like a cross between the Stallone and Urban uniform could work?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 09:40:07 pm
I would argue that it is the stallone uniform that looks very cheap and generally "a bit naff", the Dredd 2012 uniform looks like a real riot police/military/SWAT uniform, so much more relevant and convincing for a law enforcer in a future broken society.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 12 May, 2017, 09:41:04 pm
Why would it be?

Because obviously Rebellion would want to get involved with a venture to raise tens of millions in capital to promote someone else's version of the property. Makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 12 May, 2017, 09:44:08 pm
This is why Pat Mills was right when he said creators and editors should ignore what the fans think and just do what they think is best.


I think that's a bad idea.  Obviously they can't do everything the fans want but many fans do make some good points.   

For a start I'm not one to blow my own trumpet and I'm not for one minute saying nobody else has thought of it or that what I said influenced the decision but I said in the 2012 thread that maybe a new series or film should be titled Mega City One.   The best thing is to listen to themselves and the fans.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 09:48:54 pm
It isn't a good idea to listen to fans, at all. Ever.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 12 May, 2017, 09:50:04 pm
I would argue that it is the stallone uniform that looks very cheap and generally "a bit naff", the Dredd 2012 uniform looks like a real riot police/military/SWAT uniform, so much more relevant and convincing for a law enforcer in a future broken society.



I think they've both got their plus's and minus's.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 12 May, 2017, 09:51:57 pm
It isn't a good idea to listen to fans, at all. Ever.



I take it you're joking?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 12 May, 2017, 10:13:14 pm
Listening to fans just leads to draughty ears.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 10:19:01 pm
It isn't a good idea to listen to fans, at all. Ever.



I take it you're joking?

No, not at all.

Creators should create, they shouldn't pander to the views of extreme fandom, a small minority of people who actually consume creative output.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 10:21:04 pm
I couldn't think of anything worse than comics or films produced to appease the vocal fans.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 May, 2017, 10:25:29 pm
I couldn't think of anything worse than comics or films produced to appease the vocal fans.

Thankfully, Rebellion, run by the Kingsley's, are fans so we're in safe hands!  :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 10:26:03 pm
The 2012 Dredd film is a film that is entirely faithful and respectful to its source material, it is not an exercise in fan appeasement.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 10:28:04 pm
Read the last 19 pages back, if you tried to appease the fans here you would end up with an unholy mess. I have absolutely no problem with Rebellion, who have demonstrated at length a clear love and understanding of their characters and are dedicated to faithfully representing them in all available mediums.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 May, 2017, 10:30:17 pm
The 2012 Dredd film is a film that is entirely faithful and respectful to its source material, it is not an exercise in fan appeasement.

I absolutely loved the 2012 movie, but dialing up the satire this time wouldn't go amiss.  :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 12 May, 2017, 10:30:33 pm
The 2012 Dredd film is a film that is entirely faithful and respectful to its source material, it is not an exercise in fan appeasement.

You mean apart from having Sternhammer Block, Minty, Goaty, Radiator, Commando Forces, Joe Soap, Kenny Who? and Chopper namechecked in various bits of signage or graffiti?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 12 May, 2017, 10:31:55 pm
It isn't a good idea to listen to fans, at all. Ever.

I hear ya ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 10:34:34 pm
The 2012 Dredd film is a film that is entirely faithful and respectful to its source material, it is not an exercise in fan appeasement.

You mean apart from having Sternhammer Block, Minty, Goaty, Radiator, Commando Forces, Joe Soap, Kenny Who? and Chopper namechecked in various bits of signage or graffiti?

Really? Seems to me Dredd has been putting names on the side of buildings for 40 years......
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Art on 12 May, 2017, 10:35:08 pm
If the makers of Dredd listened to fans they would have shut down production shortly after the first bike and uniform images were released.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 10:36:10 pm
If the makers of Dredd listened to fans they would have shut down production shortly after the first bike and uniform images were released.

Isn't that the truth.  The backlash against early production  shots in that thread were ridiculous.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 12 May, 2017, 10:39:37 pm
Simple is be fan and give great supportable to the production, and wish them all the best!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 12 May, 2017, 10:40:24 pm
The 2012 Dredd film is a film that is entirely faithful and respectful to its source material, it is not an exercise in fan appeasement.

You mean apart from having Sternhammer Block, Minty, Goaty, Radiator, Commando Forces, Joe Soap, Kenny Who? and Chopper namechecked in various bits of signage or graffiti?

Really? Seems to me Dredd has been putting names on the side of buildings for 40 years......

I really don't understand your point there - you say that 2012 wasn't an exercise in fan appeasement, and I pointed out that *board members* had namechecks in the film.

That's a world of difference from throwaway gags about celebrity named blocks in the world of Dredd.

I'm not saying throwing bones to fans is a bad thing, more pointing out your statement about the 2012 Dredd and fan appeasement doesn't seem to be borne out by the sheer amount of fan nods in there.

The forum even gets a mention in the credits.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 10:43:02 pm
The 2012 Dredd film is a film that is entirely faithful and respectful to its source material, it is not an exercise in fan appeasement.

You mean apart from having Sternhammer Block, Minty, Goaty, Radiator, Commando Forces, Joe Soap, Kenny Who? and Chopper namechecked in various bits of signage or graffiti?

Really? Seems to me Dredd has been putting names on the side of buildings for 40 years......

I really don't understand your point there - you say that 2012 wasn't an exercise in fan appeasement, and I pointed out that *board members* had namechecks in the film.

That's a world of difference from throwaway gags about celebrity named blocks in the world of Dredd.

I'm not saying throwing bones to fans is a bad thing, more pointing out your statement about the 2012 Dredd and fan appeasement doesn't seem to be borne out by the sheer amount of fan nods in there.

The forum even gets a mention in the credits.

Because naming boarders in a film does not influence or change the substance of the film in any way. It's a fantastic nod to the support of the fanbase, but was added after the fact - no part of the production changed course based on the opinions of fans.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 12 May, 2017, 10:44:56 pm
The 2012 Dredd film is a film that is entirely faithful and respectful to its source material, it is not an exercise in fan appeasement.

You mean apart from having Sternhammer Block, Minty, Goaty, Radiator, Commando Forces, Joe Soap, Kenny Who? and Chopper namechecked in various bits of signage or graffiti?

Really? Seems to me Dredd has been putting names on the side of buildings for 40 years......

I really don't understand your point there - you say that 2012 wasn't an exercise in fan appeasement, and I pointed out that *board members* had namechecks in the film.

That's a world of difference from throwaway gags about celebrity named blocks in the world of Dredd.

I'm not saying throwing bones to fans is a bad thing, more pointing out your statement about the 2012 Dredd and fan appeasement doesn't seem to be borne out by the sheer amount of fan nods in there.

The forum even gets a mention in the credits.

I take fan appeasement as something that intrudes on the story being told - fan service, etc.  Blink and you miss them references that most viewers wouldn't catch unless they're specifically looking for them don't count, in my book.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 12 May, 2017, 10:45:51 pm
You've got me wanting to watch Judge Minty to see if there's any hidden references in it now!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 10:46:48 pm
The 2012 Dredd film is a film that is entirely faithful and respectful to its source material, it is not an exercise in fan appeasement.

You mean apart from having Sternhammer Block, Minty, Goaty, Radiator, Commando Forces, Joe Soap, Kenny Who? and Chopper namechecked in various bits of signage or graffiti?

Really? Seems to me Dredd has been putting names on the side of buildings for 40 years......

I really don't understand your point there - you say that 2012 wasn't an exercise in fan appeasement, and I pointed out that *board members* had namechecks in the film.

That's a world of difference from throwaway gags about celebrity named blocks in the world of Dredd.

I'm not saying throwing bones to fans is a bad thing, more pointing out your statement about the 2012 Dredd and fan appeasement doesn't seem to be borne out by the sheer amount of fan nods in there.

The forum even gets a mention in the credits.

I take fan appeasement as something that intrudes on the story being told - fan service, etc.  Blink and you miss them references that most viewers wouldn't catch unless they're specifically looking for them don't count, in my book.

Exactly!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Beeks on 12 May, 2017, 10:50:52 pm
They've already hinted in that interview regarding the more comedic side of Dredd's universe emerging in the series..which a few posters have alluded to wanting
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 10:52:45 pm
I thought that their was an excellent subtle use of humour in Dredd, sure it was grim (which worked in its favour), but it wasn't overly oppressive and had a good humour balance.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 12 May, 2017, 10:56:26 pm
The 2012 Dredd film is a film that is entirely faithful and respectful to its source material, it is not an exercise in fan appeasement.

You mean apart from having Sternhammer Block, Minty, Goaty, Radiator, Commando Forces, Joe Soap, Kenny Who? and Chopper namechecked in various bits of signage or graffiti?

Really? Seems to me Dredd has been putting names on the side of buildings for 40 years......

I really don't understand your point there - you say that 2012 wasn't an exercise in fan appeasement, and I pointed out that *board members* had namechecks in the film.

That's a world of difference from throwaway gags about celebrity named blocks in the world of Dredd.

I'm not saying throwing bones to fans is a bad thing, more pointing out your statement about the 2012 Dredd and fan appeasement doesn't seem to be borne out by the sheer amount of fan nods in there.

The forum even gets a mention in the credits.

I take fan appeasement as something that intrudes on the story being told - fan service, etc.  Blink and you miss them references that most viewers wouldn't catch unless they're specifically looking for them don't count, in my book.

Exactly!

Maybe you and I have different definitions then.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 May, 2017, 10:57:01 pm
Because naming boarders in a film does not influence or change the substance of the film in any way. It's a fantastic nod to the support of the fanbase, but was added after the fact - no part of the production changed course based on the opinions of fans.

"I read the 2000AD message boards through pre-production, shooting, and post-production.  I never posted, because I thought it would muddy the waters.  But I appreciated what I read here immensely, and paid close attention to your hopes and concerns, and found it extremely motivating.  The forum was also a brilliant resource.  I could always tell when a story had broken about the production, because the page count on the main thread would jump." – Alex Garland

http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=36741.0

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 12 May, 2017, 10:57:07 pm
They've already hinted in that interview regarding the more comedic side of Dredd's universe emerging in the series..which a few posters have alluded to wanting

Definitely, satire is a big part of the package. And since X-Files for example was able to pull off both comedy and complete seriousness, I think they'll be able to pull it off here too. And since people are on board with crazy stylized shows like American Gods, I think they'll be able to handle some eccentric stuff in the mix here.

On all the 2012 movie talk, it is a great movie, and it has been discussed a lot on it's subforum here over the years. This is a different adaptation by different people. And the 2012 one is largely a John Carpenter-esque crime thriller. I love those, but there are a lot of other tones and things to do with Mega City One on screen. If the show is as good as it could be, we'll later wonder why the movies weren't more like the show, since the show got it so completely right.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 11:01:33 pm
Because naming boarders in a film does not influence or change the substance of the film in any way. It's a fantastic nod to the support of the fanbase, but was added after the fact - no part of the production changed course based on the opinions of fans.

"I read the 2000AD message boards through pre-production, shooting, and post-production.  I never posted, because I thought it would muddy the waters.  But I appreciated what I read here immensely, and paid close attention to your hopes and concerns, and found it extremely motivating.  The forum was also a brilliant resource.  I could always tell when a story had broken about the production, because the page count on the main thread would jump." – Alex Garland

http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=36741.0

I get that Joe, but I don't think that it indicates that the script or the aesthetic of the movie was changed as a result of fan comment. Seriously, the lawmaster design, the modern vehicles etc were savaged on that thread, but  they still appeared in the film unchanged (thankfully).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Tiplodocus on 12 May, 2017, 11:02:42 pm
You quite often get vocal fans saying "It must be entirely faithful to the source". In which case we'd have had a ludicrous  Tom Bombadil sequence in Fellowship. Hence don't listen to your fans.

Which is a World away from stocking Commando Forces or Goaty's name on a background image that needed some random text.

Anyway, back in 2010 (!) I was worried any Dredd Tv  series might end up being a cheap "precinct show" but early words say no. So that's good.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 11:04:38 pm
The 2012 Dredd film is a film that is entirely faithful and respectful to its source material, it is not an exercise in fan appeasement.

You mean apart from having Sternhammer Block, Minty, Goaty, Radiator, Commando Forces, Joe Soap, Kenny Who? and Chopper namechecked in various bits of signage or graffiti?

Really? Seems to me Dredd has been putting names on the side of buildings for 40 years......

I really don't understand your point there - you say that 2012 wasn't an exercise in fan appeasement, and I pointed out that *board members* had namechecks in the film.

That's a world of difference from throwaway gags about celebrity named blocks in the world of Dredd.

I'm not saying throwing bones to fans is a bad thing, more pointing out your statement about the 2012 Dredd and fan appeasement doesn't seem to be borne out by the sheer amount of fan nods in there.

The forum even gets a mention in the credits.

I take fan appeasement as something that intrudes on the story being told - fan service, etc.  Blink and you miss them references that most viewers wouldn't catch unless they're specifically looking for them don't count, in my book.

Exactly!

Maybe you and I have different definitions then.

I don't really follow Steve, are you therefore indicating that Dredd 2012 was actually an exercise in fan appeasement?

This thread appears to indicate that the "fans" weren't appeased by the movie as opinion is so divided as to what should be included in the TV series.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 12 May, 2017, 11:08:23 pm
You quite often get vocal fans saying "It must be entirely faithful to the source". In which case we'd have had a ludicrous  Tom Bombadil sequence in Fellowship. Hence don't listen to your fans.

That sounds like approaching this topic a bit literally. From that promotional image and talk so far, they're telling us this is going to be more like the style of the comic, and that they felt the 2012 version didn't touch on the satire as much as they intend to here.

On listening to fans, if they happen to read something a fan says and they think "hmmm that makes sense", sure why not. But I think they already have an idea of what they consider to be special about Judge Dredd, and they are at work on making their vision of it a reality.

When people say they want something more like the comic costume, compared to the 2012 film, that doesn't mean just the comic come to life, like at a convention. Surely they'll have their costume people and props people put together stuff that looks incredible, with it's own style and spin on it, while possibly being more like the comics than other versions so far.

Either way, while I dig the 2012 movie, I don't think it needs to be a measuring stick for this version, and it does seem they intend to take a different approach to the material here. Which I think is good.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rogue Judge on 12 May, 2017, 11:08:39 pm
I don't know the details, but I think it was incredibly thoughtful to include the names of board members (i.e. Minty, Goaty, Radiator, Commando Forces, Joe Soap, etc.) in the film. How did that come about that they got their names included, was it a contest?

I hope they do something similar with the TV show, forum exclusive contests and such as a way for fans to be heard/included. Its great that the 2000 AD community seems so tight and involved (as demonstrated by the success of the 40th bash).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 12 May, 2017, 11:09:28 pm
Here we go again, much same as two years before Dredd 2012 release, kept positive and be happy it got green-lit!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 12 May, 2017, 11:09:45 pm
I am saying that there is some fan appeasement in there.

As in nods to fans which didn't really need to be in there.

Anyway, I've got better things to do than argue the toss over definitions.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 12 May, 2017, 11:14:47 pm
Here we go again, much same as two years before Dredd 2012 release, kept positive and be happy it got green-lit!

I also have goat in my name, and I'm also positive about this!  :cool:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 11:15:48 pm
I am saying that there is some fan appeasement in there.

As in nods to fans which didn't really need to be in there.

Anyway, I've got better things to do than argue the toss over definitions.

Them we certainly have different definition.  Appeasing the fans would indicate changing the film to keep fans happy, not name checking them, which is more fan recognition.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 May, 2017, 11:26:18 pm
I get that Joe, but I don't think that it indicates that the script or the aesthetic of the movie was changed as a result of fan comment. Seriously, the lawmaster design, the modern vehicles etc were savaged on that thread, but  they still appeared in the film unchanged (thankfully).


"I read the 2000AD message boards through pre-production, shooting, and post-production...But I appreciated what I read here immensely, and paid close attention to your hopes and concerns, and found it extremely motivating."

I think that more or less states that there was an influence all through production. Albeit one we were unaware of. To what degree something someone mentioned led to a small adjustment here or there, who knows, but this place did have some effect. Not total appeasement – rightly so – but influence.

The physical bikes came late in production and couldn't be changed anyway because it was too late and they needed to shoot the scenes. Not that a production should, would or could change something they've all ready spent money on because of the opinions of a few fans but the bikes didn't come out as well as the producers hoped for, either.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 11:32:10 pm
I get that Joe, but I don't think that it indicates that the script or the aesthetic of the movie was changed as a result of fan comment. Seriously, the lawmaster design, the modern vehicles etc were savaged on that thread, but  they still appeared in the film unchanged (thankfully).


"I read the 2000AD message boards through pre-production, shooting, and post-production...But I appreciated what I read here immensely, and paid close attention to your hopes and concerns, and found it extremely motivating."

I think that more or less states that there was an influence all through production. Albeit one we were unaware of. To what degree something someone mentioned led to a small adjustment here or there, who knows, but this place did have some influence.

The physical bikes came late in production and couldn't be changed anyway because it was too late and they needed to shoot the scenes. Not that a production should, would or could change something they've all ready spent money on because of the opinions of a few fans but the bikes didn't come out as well as the producers hoped for, either.

Fair enough, but reading the original script, looking at the film storyboards and the concept art indicates that if any "tweaks" actually took place, then, they must have been minor as that material faithfully portrays the film that we actually got.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 12 May, 2017, 11:36:49 pm
And to be fair, though it's a nod to the fans, he does mention that it was "motivating" rather than informing any decisions or amendments on what he was making.
 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 May, 2017, 11:57:00 pm
Originally, the eagle was supposed to indicate senior rank and it was decided quite late in the day that only Dredd was going to have one, in order to make him look more individual (rather missing the point… again).

You can actually see that there other judges with eagles at the end of the movie:

(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb36/jimcampbell2000/Dredd_Eagles_zpsf09363b3.jpg)


Disappointing, Jim – you missed one.

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/Eagle%20spot%201_zps0dn4xzjq.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 May, 2017, 12:00:13 am
And to be fair, though it's a nod to the fans, he does mention that it was "motivating" rather than informing any decisions or amendments on what he was making.

That depends on what he was 'motivated' to do as a result. ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 13 May, 2017, 12:01:45 am
And to be fair, though it's a nod to the fans, he does mention that it was "motivating" rather than informing any decisions or amendments on what he was making.

That depends on what he was 'motivated' to do as a result. ;)

Indeed........will we ever know? 🤔
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 13 May, 2017, 02:07:38 am
I couldn't think of anything worse than comics or films produced to appease the vocal fans.



Tell that to the makers of that awful Thunderbirds film (who ignored the fans and made Spy Kids instead)

Tell that to George Lucas who followed his own nose and produced the medicocre prequels aimed at 5 year olds instead of making something more like Empire Strikes Back which is a fan favourite.   

And of course Dredd was such a success in the cinema's wasn't it. :(   Nobody's saying that everything the fans say has to be taken into consideration or done or is always right........but ignore the fans at your peril.    Sometimes fans do make some good points believe it or not and everyone in this thread is a fan.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 13 May, 2017, 02:13:02 am
If the makers of Dredd listened to fans they would have shut down production shortly after the first bike and uniform images were released.


I don't think anybody would say they'd like it to have been shut down but many people would say they wished they had listened about the bike and uniform.   The Mezco toys Lawmaster is much more along the lines of how it should have looked.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 May, 2017, 02:25:07 am
I don't think anybody would say they'd like it to have been shut down but many people would say they wished they had listened about the bike and uniform. 

They couldn't change them even if they wanted to – the props were made. They weren't going to shut down production and re-design the things certain fans didn't like. Can't run an expensive production that way.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 13 May, 2017, 02:26:50 am
The 2012 Dredd film is a film that is entirely faithful and respectful to its source material, it is not an exercise in fan appeasement.


That's debateable.  A lot of it is yes.   I think everyone was pleased it was gritty and not some watered down crap.   Where many people think it was a bit of a let down was said bike, uniform, lack of satire, not futuristic enough and the sparse Mega City.   

Again I like the film but I'd like the series to address all these issues. 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 13 May, 2017, 02:30:25 am
I don't think anybody would say they'd like it to have been shut down but many people would say they wished they had listened about the bike and uniform. 

They couldn't change them even if they wanted to – the props were made. They weren't going to shut down production and re-design the things certain fans didn't like. Can't run an expensive production that way.



Ok but let's hope the makers of this series at least take the things some fans have been saying into consideration.  I think they've got the opportunity to please just about everyone with this.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 13 May, 2017, 04:41:30 am
Everything SIP has said on this thread is spot on. I want the TV series to be stylistically as close to the 2012 film as possible (except with better vehicles, and some roads in the sky between the blocks).

I do understand why people want the eagle to be more prominent, but I recall reading that when they tried it it was too cumbersome. They want a uniform that you could fight and roll around in. If the pad was any bigger you couldn't even raise your arms above your shoulders.
Agreed. Not meaning to keep beating that long beaten dead horse any further (we've got at least a year before we might even hear about any details regarding the thing, so why not anyway?), it literally does boil down to what looks right for screen, rather than what fans want to see, which is the big eagle and the other big shoulder pad, which does what exactly? I've no doubt that this TV show is only being made because of the cult status that Dredd 2012 has now received. 5 years on, it's washed away the awful memories of the '95 Stallone bollocks, and the last thing people want is to be reminded of that travesty by having judges prance about in a gritty, realistic setting (even if it is set in the future, its still going to be pretty grounded to look at for the most part) with what amounts to ridiculously camp shoulder bling.
Imagine the setting. A Judge getting ready to make a bust, he kicks a door through, storms into a room, only to have the protruding beak of the eagle snag on a curtain, spinning him round, throwing him off balance, then he gets shot about 50 times. Hilarious stuff. It just doesn't work. It's as simple as that.

The shoulder pads of the 2012 not only bulked out the frame of the Judges (like an American footballer kind of silhouette) and made their stature imposing, they also acted as battering rams for the shoulder. There's the scene just before Dredd enters MaMa's quarters, where you can see that in effect, and I think it actually dents in the eagle. Stuff like that's great. Battle scarred armour. Little details that brought that costume to life and made Dredd and the Judges all the more believable.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 13 May, 2017, 06:05:04 am
I think the point either way is, this is a new adaptation, which will have it's own look. It's cool that some like the 2012 one's look so much that they don't want anything else, but maybe after seeing what they have for the new show's look you'll like that too.

On gritty realistic setting, I don't know that this is what they'll be doing with the new show. It's not what the poster they have is doing. It could be a more stylized futuristic looking sci-fi, at least that's what the early promotional poster image suggests.

The 2012 movie is good stuff, but it's not the only way to adapt Dredd, let's see what they have planned for us this time.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: NapalmKev on 13 May, 2017, 06:39:07 am
I'm not too bothered about the uniform being exactly like the Comic. Some sort of combination of Prog and film uniform seems the best way to go - whatever they do some Drokker is going to moan!

Anyway, what I'd like to see - Futsies, Block-Wars, Democracy movement, SJS (and other Departments), foreign Judges, Bad Donald Trump Bob Booth, Rico going bad, Max Normal, Sugar busts, and a whole lot more!

Here's hoping!

Cheers
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 13 May, 2017, 07:25:28 am
I'd love to see something like Graveyard Shift, just Dredd and co. handling calls nonstop for an episode. Then he briefly goes in the sleep machine, and goes right back out onto the streets. Wouldn't be the first episode, but it'd be cool to see somewhere in there.

Not to get ahead of ourselves, but I'd love to see Judge Death! But that feels like a season 2 kind of thing, not that I'd complain if he showed up early. And I'd enjoy it if his first appearance is just one or two episodes, kind of like how it was a relatively brief story in the comics. And may not appear again for a year or two.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 13 May, 2017, 09:28:05 am
I couldn't think of anything worse than comics or films produced to appease the vocal fans.



Tell that to the makers of that awful Thunderbirds film (who ignored the fans and made Spy Kids instead)

Tell that to George Lucas who followed his own nose and produced the medicocre prequels aimed at 5 year olds instead of making something more like Empire Strikes Back which is a fan favourite.   

And of course Dredd was such a success in the cinema's wasn't it. :(   Nobody's saying that everything the fans say has to be taken into consideration or done or is always right........but ignore the fans at your peril.    Sometimes fans do make some good points believe it or not and everyone in this thread is a fan.

Thunderbird film was not faithful to the source material. It decided to do something different and failed as a result. It was not rubbish because it didn't listen to fans, it was rubbish because it wasn't thunderbirds.

I'm not a Star Wars prequel hater, so can't get on board with the Lucas bashing. Force Awakens was very much an exercise in fan appeasement and there has been a fair amount of criticism and backlash against it for that very reason. One of the prequels at least is a great star wars film (imo) and surpasses force awakens or the turgid Rogue One. I have nothing but respect for Lucas wanting to make the films that he actually wanted to rather than just churning out "more of the same". I think it's a shame that he isn't more involved in the Disney efforts.

Again, I found Dredd captured the spirit of Judge Dredd perfectly and it certainly did not fail for nonsense like "the bike didn't look right", when 99% of the prospective audience wouldn't have the first clue what Dredd, his bike or his city would look like in the first place.

If we have a television series because of the growing cult of Dredd 2012, then this show would be ill advised to veer too far from that or risk alienating the broader fan base of that film. Why jeopardise a hard earned ready-audience?  It just seems like a no brained to me.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Krakajac on 13 May, 2017, 09:40:36 am
In an effort to keep this thread positive...

Just imagine some years from now - having multiple seasons of a Judge Dredd TV series sitting on your bluray/DVD shelf.  Incredible times we live in.  Who would've thunk it?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: TordelBack on 13 May, 2017, 09:43:11 am
Quote from: ABCwarBOT

Tell that to George Lucas who followed his own nose and produced the medicocre prequels aimed at 5 year olds instead of making something more like Empire Strikes Back which is a fan favourite.   

I'm not a Star Wars prequel hater, so can't get on board with the Lucas bashing. Force Awakens was very much an exercise in fan appeasement and there has been a fair amount of criticism and backlash against it for that very reason. One of the prequels at least is a great star wars film (imo) and surpasses force awakens or the turgid Rogue One. I have nothing but respect for Lucas wanting to make the films that he actually wanted to rather than just churning out "more of the same". I think it's a shame that he isn't more involved in the Disney efforts.

Leaving aside that Empire Strikes Back had already been made and is still  available to watch for those that can't  get enough, the Lucas 'misstep' of the prequels took $2.5 billon worldwide, and that's just box-office, probably a drop in the overall ocean. He subsequently sold Lucasfilm for $4 billion. Like 'em or loathe 'em, the prequels were a success, but incidentally got progressively worse the more Lucas listened to the whining of so-called fans until he plainly couldn't give a monkey's by the end.

Fans are morons: if they were any judge of what they actually wanted and how to deliver it from a financial, technical and artistic standpoint they'd be making their own films themselves, instead of entitled rants on YouTube.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 13 May, 2017, 09:53:45 am
I'd love to see something like Graveyard Shift, just Dredd and co. handling calls nonstop for an episode. Then he briefly goes in the sleep machine, and goes right back out onto the streets. Wouldn't be the first episode, but it'd be cool to see somewhere in there.

Not to get ahead of ourselves, but I'd love to see Judge Death! But that feels like a season 2 kind of thing, not that I'd complain if he showed up early. And I'd enjoy it if his first appearance is just one or two episodes, kind of like how it was a relatively brief story in the comics. And may not appear again for a year or two.

Wasn't it the plan to leave Judge Death to the second Dredd 2012 film?  And I'm sure I've read somewhere in the past 22 years that there was a similar plan for the Judge Dredd 1995 film.  Seems like if you want to include Dark Judges then put them in from the beginning :-)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 13 May, 2017, 09:58:36 am
Not wanting to get mired in the 'comic uniform' versus 'realistic uniform' debate too much, but for those of you who cosplay at conventions, just how bulky are the uniforms you wear?  Do you feel you could run, jump, duck, squat or climb in them?  Leave the weight of the armour out of it for the moment, as with 82 years between the present day and 2099 I'd expect materials science to develop harder but lighter substances.  This question goes out to comic, 2012 and rubber chicken wearers (are there any 1995 cosplayers, I don't recall seeing any photos).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 13 May, 2017, 09:59:13 am
Not wanting to get mired in the 'comic uniform' versus 'realistic uniform' debate too much, but for those of you who cosplay at conventions, just how bulky are the uniforms you wear?  Do you feel you could run, jump, duck, squat or climb in them?  Leave the weight of the armour out of it for the moment, as with 82 years between the present day and 2099 I'd expect materials science to develop harder but lighter substances.  This question goes out to comic, 2012 and rubber chicken wearers (are there any 1995 cosplayers, I don't recall seeing any photos).

p.s. I do really like the wall judge at the beginning of 1995, and the Judge Hunters / SJS.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 May, 2017, 10:00:41 am
I'd love to see something like Graveyard Shift, just Dredd and co. handling calls nonstop for an episode. Then he briefly goes in the sleep machine, and goes right back out onto the streets. Wouldn't be the first episode, but it'd be cool to see somewhere in there.

Not to get ahead of ourselves, but I'd love to see Judge Death! But that feels like a season 2 kind of thing, not that I'd complain if he showed up early. And I'd enjoy it if his first appearance is just one or two episodes, kind of like how it was a relatively brief story in the comics. And may not appear again for a year or two.

Wasn't it the plan to leave Judge Death to the second Dredd 2012 film?  And I'm sure I've read somewhere in the past 22 years that there was a similar plan for the Judge Dredd 1995 film.  Seems like if you want to include Dark Judges then put them in from the beginning :-)

I'm pretty sure writer Alex Garland had a trilogy of Dredd films in mind in which Judge Death would form the basis for the third film.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 May, 2017, 10:06:02 am
In an effort to keep this thread positive...

Just imagine some years from now - having multiple seasons of a Judge Dredd TV series sitting on your bluray/DVD shelf.  Incredible times we live in.  Who would've thunk it?

I couldn't agree more with this statement!

A few years back any continuation of the Dredd mythos on film or TV seemed dead in the water and now we have the best news imaginable!

I couldn't be a more happier squax that our hopes have been realised and I wish nothing but the best for the production and I will devour any news eagerly. 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 13 May, 2017, 10:17:57 am
Not wanting to get mired in the 'comic uniform' versus 'realistic uniform' debate too much, but for those of you who cosplay at conventions, just how bulky are the uniforms you wear?  Do you feel you could run, jump, duck, squat or climb in them?  Leave the weight of the armour out of it for the moment, as with 82 years between the present day and 2099 I'd expect materials science to develop harder but lighter substances.  This question goes out to comic, 2012 and rubber chicken wearers (are there any 1995 cosplayers, I don't recall seeing any photos).

I don't wear them but have plenty of experience of shooting with them both on Minty and ref photos for Dark Justice.

Minty had a 2-piece costume as does the 2012 costume. The PR leathers are one piece leathers which are worse for bending down/squatting as there's little give in them, unless there's something elastic in places.

Running - most of the PR costumes tend to be bike boots which are terrible for running in, they're designed for riding on a bike, we chopped a pair up for Minty so they had more flex in them. That's not an either or thing just the quickest cheapest route to source boots.

The PR pads don't restrict arm movement much that I recall, possibly the plain pad can bump into the helmet. The Eagle doesn't have that problem because it's V-shaped from the top.

It's more the rigidity of the pads and the plain pad being straight which stops much rolling about in them.

The old PR pads were solid rubber, pretty stiff - the new set Dan is selling is lightweight foam - I guess you could roll about but they would just end up folding/bending.

We had John Burdis rolling along the floor after Minty comes off the bike - It's not ideal for stunts, but not as bad as the 1995 costume which is more of a single lump.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: moly on 13 May, 2017, 10:23:40 am
Really excited about this show but it looks like rebellion are putting the money into this and then selling it on via IM for distribution if it doesn't work out wouldn't their be a big financial loss at stake which could effect the company ?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 13 May, 2017, 10:48:03 am
Really excited about this show but it looks like rebellion are putting the money into this and then selling it on via IM for distribution if it doesn't work out wouldn't their be a big financial loss at stake which could effect the company ?

I'm pretty sure that's not how TV production works…
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: TordelBack on 13 May, 2017, 10:59:34 am
Nothing Rebellion has done to date makes me suspect they are anything other than supremely cautious when it comes to business. They're the bit of this project I'd be least worried about.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 13 May, 2017, 11:04:53 am
In an effort to keep this thread positive...

Just imagine some years from now - having multiple seasons of a Judge Dredd TV series sitting on your bluray/DVD shelf.  Incredible times we live in.  Who would've thunk it?

Ooh yeah...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 13 May, 2017, 11:17:53 am
In an effort to keep this thread positive...

Just imagine some years from now - having multiple seasons of a Judge Dredd TV series sitting on your bluray/DVD shelf.  Incredible times we live in.  Who would've thunk it?

Ooh yeah...

I couldn't be more positive about this! That's why I'm ranting on defending the 2012 Dredd, genuinely one of my favourite ever films. I'm so happy about this TV show its just possible that I may pop. 😊
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 May, 2017, 11:58:53 am
Really excited about this show but it looks like rebellion are putting the money into this and then selling it on via IM for distribution if it doesn't work out wouldn't their be a big financial loss at stake which could effect the company ?

Rebellion, and possibly their partners too, are paying for some of the initial development but they're still looking for someone to fund the series/presell it. I'm sure they've done their sums but whatever the outcome, it's unlikely to endanger the future of Rebellion or the comic.


Rebellion has teamed up with IM Global Television to look for big-budget commitments from networks in North America and Europe, with Kingsley aiming to be “well above” the £1m an hour budget a major TV show demands. “If everything goes according to plan, we’re going to make one of the most expensive TV shows the UK has ever seen.”


https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/may/11/judge-dredd-mega-city-one-set-to-dispense-tv-justice
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 13 May, 2017, 12:54:22 pm
Jeez, come on, already!

This is taking way too long!

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m97yhpjmYJ1rrc78e.gif)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dash Decent on 13 May, 2017, 01:02:04 pm

with Kingsley aiming to be “well above” the £1m an hour budget a major TV show demands. “If everything goes according to plan, we’re going to make one of the most expensive TV shows the UK has ever seen.”

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/may/11/judge-dredd-mega-city-one-set-to-dispense-tv-justice

I love that they're really thinking big with this one.  I hope it's a rip-roaring success.

As Malcolm McLaren says in The Great Rock & Roll Swindle, "Don't think in tens - think in hundreds!"
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 13 May, 2017, 01:47:55 pm
Not wanting to get mired in the 'comic uniform' versus 'realistic uniform' debate too much, but for those of you who cosplay at conventions, just how bulky are the uniforms you wear?  Do you feel you could run, jump, duck, squat or climb in them?  Leave the weight of the armour out of it for the moment, as with 82 years between the present day and 2099 I'd expect materials science to develop harder but lighter substances.  This question goes out to comic, 2012 and rubber chicken wearers (are there any 1995 cosplayers, I don't recall seeing any photos).

I don't wear them but have plenty of experience of shooting with them both on Minty and ref photos for Dark Justice.

{snip}

We had John Burdis rolling along the floor after Minty comes off the bike - It's not ideal for stunts, but not as bad as the 1995 costume which is more of a single lump.

Thanks Steve - just waiting for the pwls bot to tell us how active he could get in the rubber chicken jimp suit...




In other news - is the TV series out yet, it seems like we've been waiting the two years by now.  Must be soon, right?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dash Decent on 13 May, 2017, 02:35:08 pm
In other news - is the TV series out yet, it seems like we've been waiting the two years by now.  Must be soon, right?

It's on right now!  I'm sure this must be it - Penelope Keith's just moved out of her big posh house to a smaller place down the drive.  Dredd's bound to turn up any minute.




Any minute now.





....any minute....
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: von Boom on 13 May, 2017, 02:48:21 pm
In other news - is the TV series out yet, it seems like we've been waiting the two years by now.  Must be soon, right?

It's on right now!  I'm sure this must be it - Penelope Keith's just moved out of her big posh house to a smaller place down the drive.  Dredd's bound to turn up any minute.




Any minute now.





....any minute....

Just checked iTunes. It must be on pre-order by now.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: A.Cow on 13 May, 2017, 02:50:17 pm
In other news - is the TV series out yet, it seems like we've been waiting the two years by now.  Must be soon, right?
It's on right now!  I'm sure this must be it - Penelope Keith's just moved out of her big posh house to a smaller place down the drive.  Dredd's bound to turn up any minute.

Nah, you're watching the wrong channel.  If you switch over you'll see there's someone handing out iso-cube sentences all over the place like they're going out of fashion.  Must be from Wally squad because he's not in full regs.  Name's Pinder (or something like it; can't see his badge clearly).  Must be waiting for back-up -- Dredd'll turn up in a minute.

Any minute now ...

... any minute ...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 13 May, 2017, 03:49:17 pm
There's your bottle episode right there.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 13 May, 2017, 03:51:25 pm
In other news - is the TV series out yet, it seems like we've been waiting the two years by now.  Must be soon, right?
It's on right now!  I'm sure this must be it - Penelope Keith's just moved out of her big posh house to a smaller place down the drive.  Dredd's bound to turn up any minute.

Nah, you're watching the wrong channel.  If you switch over you'll see there's someone handing out iso-cube sentences all over the place like they're going out of fashion.  Must be from Wally squad because he's not in full regs.  Name's Pinder (or something like it; can't see his badge clearly).  Must be waiting for back-up -- Dredd'll turn up in a minute.

Any minute now ...

... any minute ...

Here it is - but bad news, he takes his helmet off :(

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Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 13 May, 2017, 04:37:10 pm
Regarding the poster. I know, it's really early days, but it's interesting that the poster exists, if only for the implications that it possibly presents. I mean, is it just an early concept design, and will that change? If it is the look that's being aimed for, then surely it's a more expensive one? Flying vehicles means more CG shots too. Then there's the Cursed Earth, which would mean they'd surely need a desert location to shoot from? I hope the production ends up being similar to Game of Thrones, but of course that would mean a big network like HBO picking it up and throwing money at it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 13 May, 2017, 04:58:52 pm
Almeria seems to be the nearest desert/western place outside the UK. The actor who plays Wulf in our thing is shooting over there at the moment.

If they must shoot in the UK, then it's basically quarries + CG to extend it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: CalHab on 13 May, 2017, 09:16:19 pm
Almeria seems to be the nearest desert/western place outside the UK. The actor who plays Wulf in our thing is shooting over there at the moment.

If they must shoot in the UK, then it's basically quarries + CG to extend it.

Where Alex Cox shot "Straight to Hell" with a cast including Shane MacGowan, inspiring the wonderful Pogues song "Fiesta".
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 13 May, 2017, 09:17:21 pm
Almeria seems to be the nearest desert/western place outside the UK. The actor who plays Wulf in our thing is shooting over there at the moment.

If they must shoot in the UK, then it's basically quarries + CG to extend it.

Where Alex Cox shot "Straight to Hell" with a cast including Shane MacGowan, inspiring the wonderful Pogues song "Fiesta".

That movie is pretty cool! And his classic Repo Man is one of my top favs. Get him to direct an episode of Judge Dredd maybe.  :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 May, 2017, 09:24:05 pm
Almeria seems to be the nearest desert/western place outside the UK. The actor who plays Wulf in our thing is shooting over there at the moment.

If they must shoot in the UK, then it's basically quarries + CG to extend it.

Where Alex Cox shot "Straight to Hell" with a cast including Shane MacGowan, inspiring the wonderful Pogues song "Fiesta".

That movie is pretty cool! And his classic Repo Man is one of my top favs. Get him to direct an episode of Judge Dredd maybe.  :)

Coincidently, I was watching Sid And Nancy the other night.
Love Gary Oldman's performance in it!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 13 May, 2017, 09:56:56 pm
Great movie! Gary Oldman should play a one-off villain in the series at some point. Or, going the other direction, he could play Max Normal.  :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: CalHab on 13 May, 2017, 10:31:06 pm
Alex Cox is a legend, for Moviedrome as well as his films. He seems to have fallen out with Hollywood quite spectacularly, which is a shame for us. I saw him do a talk a few years ago and I think he is now teaching film and doing some micro-budget features.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 13 May, 2017, 10:54:04 pm
What a great debate! And no one has called anyone a Nazi or a (banned word warning) yet! I don't recognise the Internet anymore!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 14 May, 2017, 01:55:48 am
I couldn't think of anything worse than comics or films produced to appease the vocal fans.



Tell that to the makers of that awful Thunderbirds film (who ignored the fans and made Spy Kids instead)

Tell that to George Lucas who followed his own nose and produced the medicocre prequels aimed at 5 year olds instead of making something more like Empire Strikes Back which is a fan favourite.   

And of course Dredd was such a success in the cinema's wasn't it. :(   Nobody's saying that everything the fans say has to be taken into consideration or done or is always right........but ignore the fans at your peril.    Sometimes fans do make some good points believe it or not and everyone in this thread is a fan.

Thunderbird film was not faithful to the source material. It decided to do something different and failed as a result. It was not rubbish because it didn't listen to fans, it was rubbish because it wasn't thunderbirds.

I'm not a Star Wars prequel hater, so can't get on board with the Lucas bashing. Force Awakens was very much an exercise in fan appeasement and there has been a fair amount of criticism and backlash against it for that very reason. One of the prequels at least is a great star wars film (imo) and surpasses force awakens or the turgid Rogue One. I have nothing but respect for Lucas wanting to make the films that he actually wanted to rather than just churning out "more of the same". I think it's a shame that he isn't more involved in the Disney efforts.

Again, I found Dredd captured the spirit of Judge Dredd perfectly and it certainly did not fail for nonsense like "the bike didn't look right", when 99% of the prospective audience wouldn't have the first clue what Dredd, his bike or his city would look like in the first place.

If we have a television series because of the growing cult of Dredd 2012, then this show would be ill advised to veer too far from that or risk alienating the broader fan base of that film. Why jeopardise a hard earned ready-audience?  It just seems like a no brained to me.


As soon as Thunderbirds fans found out about what they were doing they were vocal about it and the studios ignored them and Gerry Anderson.   As for Force Awakens well fans were asking for a good movie.......not a remake of A New Hope (which Force Awakens was to a large extent) and they've been vocal about that ever since too.   

On the other hand Rogue One (which I'm surprised you found turgid) was very well received by critics and fans alike.   And pleasing the fans was one of the definite aims of Rogue One.       

And you say --- nonsense like "the bike didn't look right", when 99% of the prospective audience wouldn't have the first clue what Dredd, his bike or his city would look like in the first place.

    A big chunk of the prospective audience are Judge Dredd fans and they most certainly will have a clue.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 14 May, 2017, 02:03:07 am
Quote from: ABCwarBOT

Tell that to George Lucas who followed his own nose and produced the medicocre prequels aimed at 5 year olds instead of making something more like Empire Strikes Back which is a fan favourite.   

I'm not a Star Wars prequel hater, so can't get on board with the Lucas bashing. Force Awakens was very much an exercise in fan appeasement and there has been a fair amount of criticism and backlash against it for that very reason. One of the prequels at least is a great star wars film (imo) and surpasses force awakens or the turgid Rogue One. I have nothing but respect for Lucas wanting to make the films that he actually wanted to rather than just churning out "more of the same". I think it's a shame that he isn't more involved in the Disney efforts.

Leaving aside that Empire Strikes Back had already been made and is still  available to watch for those that can't  get enough, the Lucas 'misstep' of the prequels took $2.5 billon worldwide, and that's just box-office, probably a drop in the overall ocean. He subsequently sold Lucasfilm for $4 billion. Like 'em or loathe 'em, the prequels were a success, but incidentally got progressively worse the more Lucas listened to the whining of so-called fans until he plainly couldn't give a monkey's by the end.

Fans are morons: if they were any judge of what they actually wanted and how to deliver it from a financial, technical and artistic standpoint they'd be making their own films themselves, instead of entitled rants on YouTube.



So are you a moron yourself then seeing as you're posting in a Dredd forum?   I don't agree with everything Star Wars fans say about the films (especially the whining about the Special Editions which improved some parts though made other parts worse) but many fans say the prequels became better as they went along as Lucas quite rightly dropped annoying things like Jar Jar Binks and did listen to the fans a bit. 

Revenge of the Sith is regarded by many as the best of the prequels and Lucas actually said he was making it for the fans.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 14 May, 2017, 02:10:59 am

with Kingsley aiming to be “well above” the £1m an hour budget a major TV show demands. “If everything goes according to plan, we’re going to make one of the most expensive TV shows the UK has ever seen.”

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/may/11/judge-dredd-mega-city-one-set-to-dispense-tv-justice

I love that they're really thinking big with this one.  I hope it's a rip-roaring success.

As Malcolm McLaren says in The Great Rock & Roll Swindle, "Don't think in tens - think in hundreds!"




Let's hope so.   I don't think there's any other choice with this than to think big and they can't do this on the cheap.   I'd imagine the first few episodes would look more epic then they'd do some smaller in scope episodes.   A mixture of both.

That poster's a good start to me.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: A.Cow on 14 May, 2017, 03:48:33 am
As soon as Thunderbirds fans found out about what they were doing they were vocal about it and the studios ignored them and Gerry Anderson.

To be fair on the producers, Gerry Anderson was only ever going to be useful as an endorsement rather than an advisor.  At that time it had been 18 years since his last successful TV series and he clearly didn't have a clue what modern audiences wanted -- he'd wasted 8 years of his life trying to foist Space Precinct on anybody who would have it (which, when finally picked up, flopped badly).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 14 May, 2017, 11:17:59 am
I couldn't think of anything worse than comics or films produced to appease the vocal fans.



Tell that to the makers of that awful Thunderbirds film (who ignored the fans and made Spy Kids instead)

Tell that to George Lucas who followed his own nose and produced the medicocre prequels aimed at 5 year olds instead of making something more like Empire Strikes Back which is a fan favourite.   

And of course Dredd was such a success in the cinema's wasn't it. :(   Nobody's saying that everything the fans say has to be taken into consideration or done or is always right........but ignore the fans at your peril.    Sometimes fans do make some good points believe it or not and everyone in this thread is a fan.

Thunderbird film was not faithful to the source material. It decided to do something different and failed as a result. It was not rubbish because it didn't listen to fans, it was rubbish because it wasn't thunderbirds.

I'm not a Star Wars prequel hater, so can't get on board with the Lucas bashing. Force Awakens was very much an exercise in fan appeasement and there has been a fair amount of criticism and backlash against it for that very reason. One of the prequels at least is a great star wars film (imo) and surpasses force awakens or the turgid Rogue One. I have nothing but respect for Lucas wanting to make the films that he actually wanted to rather than just churning out "more of the same". I think it's a shame that he isn't more involved in the Disney efforts.

Again, I found Dredd captured the spirit of Judge Dredd perfectly and it certainly did not fail for nonsense like "the bike didn't look right", when 99% of the prospective audience wouldn't have the first clue what Dredd, his bike or his city would look like in the first place.

If we have a television series because of the growing cult of Dredd 2012, then this show would be ill advised to veer too far from that or risk alienating the broader fan base of that film. Why jeopardise a hard earned ready-audience?  It just seems like a no brained to me.


As soon as Thunderbirds fans found out about what they were doing they were vocal about it and the studios ignored them and Gerry Anderson.   As for Force Awakens well fans were asking for a good movie.......not a remake of A New Hope (which Force Awakens was to a large extent) and they've been vocal about that ever since too.   

On the other hand Rogue One (which I'm surprised you found turgid) was very well received by critics and fans alike.   And pleasing the fans was one of the definite aims of Rogue One.       

And you say --- nonsense like "the bike didn't look right", when 99% of the prospective audience wouldn't have the first clue what Dredd, his bike or his city would look like in the first place.

    A big chunk of the prospective audience are Judge Dredd fans and they most certainly will have a clue.

ABCWARBOT, I'm sure I could be baited into this repetitive argument for page after page after page, but I've grown a little weary of going over the same ground. Think I've more than had my say now.

We will just have to agree to disagree. Fan appeasement = bad idea. Respect and acknowledgement of fanbase = good.

Creators should create and invent, not sure where we would get if the fans dictate what they should produce.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 14 May, 2017, 11:20:03 am
And it's incredibly naive to think a films audience are all fans of the character it features, I would be surprised if even 10% of the audience were well versed in Dredd.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 14 May, 2017, 01:29:13 pm
There are some similar discussions over on the rpg.net forums (https://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?803378-2000AD-Rebelion-A-Judge-Dredd-TV-show-seems-to-be-in-the-works).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 14 May, 2017, 04:34:36 pm
Mmm... Edger Wright just post that on Instagram with picture of you-know-know and no word...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUE1Z5sF4T4/?taken-by=edgar_wright&hl=en (https://www.instagram.com/p/BUE1Z5sF4T4/?taken-by=edgar_wright&hl=en)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 14 May, 2017, 04:48:54 pm
Mmm... Edger Wright just post that on Instagram with picture of you-know-know and no word...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUE1Z5sF4T4/?taken-by=edgar_wright&hl=en (https://www.instagram.com/p/BUE1Z5sF4T4/?taken-by=edgar_wright&hl=en)

I thought he was currently working on another property...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ZenArcade on 14 May, 2017, 04:51:59 pm
So has Scojo got script credits for the series yet?  Just throwing it out there. Z  :-\
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 14 May, 2017, 04:56:38 pm
Mmm... Edger Wright just post that on Instagram with picture of you-know-know and no word...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUE1Z5sF4T4/?taken-by=edgar_wright&hl=en (https://www.instagram.com/p/BUE1Z5sF4T4/?taken-by=edgar_wright&hl=en)

I thought he was currently working on another property...

He'd been linked to Grasshopper Jungle.

Doesn't mean he couldn't direct an episode of a Dredd TV series.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mister Pops on 14 May, 2017, 08:04:08 pm
This show will live or die on the relative sizes of the Lawmaster Wheels and Judges' shoulder pads
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 14 May, 2017, 09:02:37 pm
This show will live or die on the relative sizes of the Lawmaster Wheels and Judges' shoulder pads

So thank the heavens we've got a year or two to talk about it amnd set everyone straight!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mardroid on 14 May, 2017, 09:25:10 pm
Heh. I'm amused that we're pretty much talking about the same stuff we did when we knew the film was being produced. (Was it really 7 years ago? Feels like 2 or 3 years to me at most.)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 May, 2017, 09:39:10 pm
2012 so that makes it by my poor maths 5 years. Stil a long time.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 May, 2017, 09:46:26 pm
Heh. I'm amused that we're pretty much talking about the same stuff we did when we knew the film was being produced. (Was it really 7 years ago? Feels like 2 or 3 years to me at most.)

2012 so that makes it by my poor maths 5 years. Stil a long time.

5 years since release - but almost 9 years since first we heard it was being 'produced'.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 14 May, 2017, 11:41:56 pm
And you say --- nonsense like "the bike didn't look right", when 99% of the prospective audience wouldn't have the first clue what Dredd, his bike or his city would look like in the first place.

    A big chunk of the prospective audience are Judge Dredd fans and they most certainly will have a clue.

How big a chunk, exactly?  Not sure what the current readership of 2000ad is but I don't think it's a significant proportion of the 650,000 people who bought the dvd or blu-ray.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 15 May, 2017, 06:46:08 am
And you say --- nonsense like "the bike didn't look right", when 99% of the prospective audience wouldn't have the first clue what Dredd, his bike or his city would look like in the first place.

    A big chunk of the prospective audience are Judge Dredd fans and they most certainly will have a clue.

How big a chunk, exactly?  Not sure what the current readership of 2000ad is but I don't think it's a significant proportion of the 650,000 people who bought the dvd or blu-ray.

I would say those sales surpass a million, and the readership must only be a small fraction of that. 

On top of that, only a small fraction of the readership posts on this forum.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 15 May, 2017, 07:24:11 am
And you say --- nonsense like "the bike didn't look right", when 99% of the prospective audience wouldn't have the first clue what Dredd, his bike or his city would look like in the first place.

    A big chunk of the prospective audience are Judge Dredd fans and they most certainly will have a clue.

How big a chunk, exactly?  Not sure what the current readership of 2000ad is but I don't think it's a significant proportion of the 650,000 people who bought the dvd or blu-ray.

I would say those sales surpass a million, and the readership must only be a small fraction of that. 

On top of that, only a small fraction of the readership posts on this forum.



And not all Dredd fans buy or still buy 2000AD.  Apart from an issue here and there I haven't bought it regularly since the 70s.   I bet most of the people who bought the Dredd dvd are Dredd fans.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 15 May, 2017, 07:56:16 am
Apart from an issue here and there I haven't bought it regularly since the 70s.

And yet, here you are, spaffing on about the 'right' way to do Dredd. You're quite the authority.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 15 May, 2017, 08:48:52 am
I'm finding myself wondering whether I have articulated my comments clearly in the preceding pages of this thread.

I am a huge Judge Dredd fanboy.....I support 2000AD as much as anyone could. I've been a subscriber to 2000ad and the magazine for as long as I can remember and have been reading 2000ad regularly since the early 1980's when I first came across the mighty prog.  All I wanted to be in life from a young age (until I finally quit trying in my 30's) was a Judge Dredd artist.

The 2012 Dredd film was pure joy for me and I've thrown 100% support behind it. I'm thrilled that this TV series is in production, and I'm proud of the strong support by the fan community for their relentless promotion of Dredd since 2012 that has no doubt helped keep the momentum going to get this series to this stage.

Rebellion have demonstrated their complete understanding of Dredd and have done an incredible job here since taking over the Prog. They have also clearly demonstrated that they will not allow these characters to be poorly handled. I have total faith in them to make sure that this series is faithful to the source material. This in turn should keep all of us Dredd-heads happy.

I can't get on board with the "listen to what us fans want!" Rants.  Honestly, that's no way to make a quality show. If this thread makes anything clear it's that there isn't any consistent "wishlist" from this small cross section of the fan base. Let the talented creators, writers and Rebellion do what they do and it'll all be cool!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 15 May, 2017, 08:50:05 am
Let the talented creators, writers and Rebellion do what they do and it'll all be cool!

You've been on the internet before, right? :-)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 15 May, 2017, 08:51:58 am
Let the talented creators, writers and Rebellion do what they do and it'll all be cool!

You've been on the internet before, right? :-)

Ha ha, fair point. 😊
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: TordelBack on 15 May, 2017, 10:35:48 am

Let the talented creators, writers and Rebellion do what they do and it'll all be cool!

Damnit SiP now I have nothing whatsoever to add to a thread that will likely run for many years.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 15 May, 2017, 11:07:11 am
Sorry man! It'll all move on shortly and we can get back to debating chain link count 😊
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 15 May, 2017, 11:07:44 am
7.

😊
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 15 May, 2017, 02:12:39 pm
Sorry man! It'll all move on shortly and we can get back to debating chain link count 😊

7.  No more, no less ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: CalHab on 15 May, 2017, 02:14:53 pm
I, for one, will boycott the programme and picket Rebellion if the wrong number of links is used. I haven't decided what that number is but, be sure, it will be the definitive number.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: TordelBack on 15 May, 2017, 02:19:57 pm
I, for one, will boycott the programme and picket Rebellion if the wrong number of links is used. I haven't decided what that number is but, be sure, it will be the definitive number.

Simply put,  the correct number of links is the one that the chain has in the comic. How could you go wrong?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 15 May, 2017, 04:09:16 pm
I, for one, will boycott the programme and picket Rebellion if the wrong number of links is used. I haven't decided what that number is but, be sure, it will be the definitive number.

Simply put,  the correct number of links is the one that the chain has in the comic. How could you go wrong?

What if there is no chain???!!!!!  :o
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: James Stacey on 15 May, 2017, 04:13:00 pm
zero is a number
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 May, 2017, 04:14:00 pm
What if there is no chain???!!!!!  :o

Then it's Judge Harvey and the Mechanismos.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 15 May, 2017, 06:34:01 pm
What if there is no chain???!!!!!  :o

Then it's Judge Harvey and the Mechanismos.

There's a band name there!!!!!  :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pete Wells on 15 May, 2017, 07:18:07 pm


Thanks Steve - just waiting for the pwls bot to tell us how active he could get in the rubber chicken jimp suit...


Sorry guys, just catching up on the thread. I can tell you that the Poundshop version allowed enough movement so as not to impede pasty consumption, however, not enough movement to fight off a rampant Katy Perry.

There was lots of room around the groin area which is, unfortunately, the story of my life.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pete Wells on 15 May, 2017, 07:48:14 pm
Sorry for double posting but I just want to pop my very excited thoughts into the ring. It certainly does look like we're getting The Pit/Graveyard Shift which sounds jolly fabulous to me! It also sounds like we're getting a mix of story styles, which is ace and something that works so well with the character/city. What I wanted (and assumed we were getting) from the 2012 trilogy was our lovely tight action film, followed by a Mad Max style road movie in the Cursed Earth followed by all out horror in a Necropolis-style third part. Really showcasing the versatility of Dredd's world. Hopefully, we'll see these genre bending approaches to the series.

As it's an ensemble piece, I hoping (and sure it will be) written well enough that we absolutely care for the cast and lose some along the way. Judging is a dangerous business and it'd be great if there was the 'no one is safe' mentality that you got from Walking Dead when it was good.

Then, of course, elements from the comic I hope that make it are: Total War (mess with the sympathies of the viewer), the Hunter's Club (to terrify the viewer,) Chopper, PJ Maybe's murdrous rise to the top (right under Dredd's nose of course,) Mechanismo, Dark Judges (eventually,) Mean Machine and tension between street judges and SJS (I miss that!) There's lots more which I'll annoying populate this thread with over the next two loooong years. Also, I really, really hope it's Easter Egg heavy. It was great spotting all the snippets of Dredd-lore in the 2012 movie, I hope we get to do this weekly! I want to jump on this forum every time an episode airs and frantically, enthusiastically compare notes with my fellow squaxx!

Finally, here's hoping that Hot Toys or Sideshow pick up a licence to do high end toys. My heart will burst the day I have a 1/6 Dredd on a 1/6 Lawmaster!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 15 May, 2017, 10:00:58 pm
Apart from an issue here and there I haven't bought it regularly since the 70s.

And yet, here you are, spaffing on about the 'right' way to do Dredd. You're quite the authority.


I see so anybody who puts forward their point of view is 'spaffing' their authority?   I don't have to have read every issue to know quite a bit about Dredd.   I bought the comic right from the first issue in the 70s up until about the end of 79/80 and bought issues off an on from that.   

Maybe you think you're an authority on Dredd seeing as you don't seem to like other points of view?   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 15 May, 2017, 10:14:04 pm
I bought the comic right from the first issue in the 70s up until about the end of 79/80 and bought issues off an on from that.

Gosh! You bought the comic regularly for the first 2-3 years (during Dredd's formative phase, forty years ago) and then couldn't be bothered after that? You're just the sort of 'fan' every publisher needs!

Quote
Maybe you think you're an authority on Dredd seeing as you don't seem to like other points of view?

I haven't offered any opinion on what approach the TV series should take, so I'm clearly not setting myself up as an authority. I'm pointing out that the early years of Dredd were very much a work in progress, with a lot of shit thrown at the wall that didn't stick. The idea that you get to tell anyone what Dredd should or shouldn't be in this context is laughable.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 15 May, 2017, 10:40:46 pm

I see so anybody who puts forward their point of view is 'spaffing' their authority?   I don't have to have read every issue to know quite a bit about Dredd.   I bought the comic right from the first issue in the 70s up until about the end of 79/80 and bought issues off an on from that.   

Maybe you think you're an authority on Dredd seeing as you don't seem to like other points of view?

Wow... okay you the expert, how the Dredd series would be better?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: TordelBack on 16 May, 2017, 12:11:00 am
Woo-hoo, at least two years of this to go!

(http://www.rockshockpop.com/screencaps/Comics/jd2.jpg)

No two writers or artists portray Dredd the same way: there is no undisputed definitive Dredd to bring to the small screen.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 16 May, 2017, 03:38:12 am
I bought the comic right from the first issue in the 70s up until about the end of 79/80 and bought issues off an on from that.

Gosh! You bought the comic regularly for the first 2-3 years (during Dredd's formative phase, forty years ago) and then couldn't be bothered after that? You're just the sort of 'fan' every publisher needs!

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Maybe you think you're an authority on Dredd seeing as you don't seem to like other points of view?

I haven't offered any opinion on what approach the TV series should take, so I'm clearly not setting myself up as an authority. I'm pointing out that the early years of Dredd were very much a work in progress, with a lot of shit thrown at the wall that didn't stick. The idea that you get to tell anyone what Dredd should or shouldn't be in this context is laughable.



I've bought some just not on a regular weekly or monthly basis like I did in the 70s but I don't need to justify what I buy to you or anyone else.   

And whose saying I get to tell anyone what Dredd should or shouldn't be?   Ever heard of something called an opinion?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 16 May, 2017, 03:39:47 am

I see so anybody who puts forward their point of view is 'spaffing' their authority?   I don't have to have read every issue to know quite a bit about Dredd.   I bought the comic right from the first issue in the 70s up until about the end of 79/80 and bought issues off an on from that.   

Maybe you think you're an authority on Dredd seeing as you don't seem to like other points of view?

Wow... okay you the expert, how the Dredd series would be better?



What's that supposed to mean?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: A.Cow on 16 May, 2017, 04:04:12 am
And whose saying I get to tell anyone what Dredd should or shouldn't be?   Ever heard of something called an opinion?

Don't worry, ABCwarBOT -- you haven't done anything wrong.  Everybody here gets a bit tired & emotional when it comes to Dredd appearing on-screen.  Blows are exchanged and apologies usually handed-out afterwards.

(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/f6/f6b58d80f9bda9a43b6ee9c4698970102575ad4e2a5f0f542c2d4ff9a4db9362.jpg)  (https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 16 May, 2017, 06:57:49 am
And whose saying I get to tell anyone what Dredd should or shouldn't be?   Ever heard of something called an opinion?

Don't worry, ABCwarBOT -- you haven't done anything wrong.  Everybody here gets a bit tired & emotional when it comes to Dredd appearing on-screen.  Blows are exchanged and apologies usually handed-out afterwards.

(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/f6/f6b58d80f9bda9a43b6ee9c4698970102575ad4e2a5f0f542c2d4ff9a4db9362.jpg)  (https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png)

Probably not though. It's not that ABCwarBOT is not entitled to have an opinion, of course he is (assuming a "he"), it's the generally aggressive and condescending way that it's been communicated to other forum members that has been the problem.

You can also appreciate that it's obviously going to be inflammatory for a self confessed casual reader (and no offence is implied in that statement) to turn up and appear to start telling the 40-year crowd exactly how Dredd should be done right. It would be fair to say ABCWARBOT that you are preaching to an audience that include people who have pretty much read EVERY Dredd story ever published. It doesn't make us right, because there is no "right" (see my earlier Rants on not listening to fans!), but im sure that you can understand why it might get people's backs up.

Let's get back to the far more important chain links problem.......Ron Smith drew loads! 😊

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 16 May, 2017, 09:06:08 am
Probably not though. It's not that ABCwarBOT is not entitled to have an opinion, of course he is (assuming a "he"), it's the generally aggressive and condescending way that it's been communicated to other forum members that has been the problem.

Precisely. It's not the opinions, it's the, ummm, vigour with which they have been presented and then defended, particularly coming from a self-confessed 'casual' fan.

It seems a bit like me getting into a heated argument about the current management of Nottingham Forest on the basis that I went to a couple of home games when Cloughie was in charge.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: TordelBack on 16 May, 2017, 09:24:45 am
I take the point about attitude, but I imagine that it's the casual* fan that this series needs to snag, as well as the complete non-scrot.  The rest of us will tune in anyway, a still pic of Our Karl with looped dialogue would probably get our undivided attention.  So there is validity in listening to the views of the part-time Dreddheads, as much as the D-wing lifers.



*Are there ranks now?  Damned if I'm saluting Burdis!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 May, 2017, 09:30:55 am
We got this with Dredd, though, as well. I've seen quite a few people unhappy with that film because it's not the Dredd they know. Said Dredd is the one from the Daily Star strip days – the fascist who wouldn't dare contemplating anything beyond THE LAW, helped along by his tight boots. In more recent years, Judge Dredd (strip and character alike) has become more nuanced and less wacky, but you'd only know that if you still read it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: TordelBack on 16 May, 2017, 09:36:49 am
True.  I was pretty cool about Dredd (2012) prior to actually seeing it. I'm not a big fan of cross-media adaptations, and if I was getting one I wanted a 12s-cert film with fatties, hover cars, Chopper and Otto Sump, the Dredd of my childhood basically.  I was of course wrong, as the first five minutes amply demonstrated.  More importantly I realised that at my advanced age I can again enjoy multiple interpretations without them affecting each other - as long as they are done with skill and insight.  So I'm much more bullish about this project: as long as they make it work, it'll be fine. 

But I still want to see Two Tonne Tony Tubbs and Jacob Sardini.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 May, 2017, 10:10:19 am
For me, it's all about how something feels, rather than it attempting to be slavish. Hellboy worked in that regard, despite the many differences compared to the original. (I'd argue the second was more successful in dealing with the weirdness of the Hellboy universe, but the original film in many ways managed to improve the 'origins' and also Kroenen.)

With Dredd, it just felt like Dredd, going about his day job, kicking arse. Yes, there were differences from the comic, but it was recognisably Dredd, and both faithful and respectful. I hope the TV series will be too. (And, as per another post on this thread, I'm mostly interested in a kind of Dread continuation, on the basis that I wanted to see more of that universe, thought it was well designed and cast, and because _this_ Dredd is what seems to have in screen terms captured people's imaginations. But if that doesn't happen, I'll take whatever's served up, assuming the project comes to fruition at all.)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: TordelBack on 16 May, 2017, 10:29:10 am
Agree on all points, there.  With the possible very minor exception of the rather cold-blooded execution of Ma-Ma, I felt I was watching Judge Dredd throughout: turns out all the rest was just trappings.

For my money the Hellboy movies are more enjoyable than the comics they sort-of adapt (see also: Iron Man, Avengers etc), and I bet there are many people who feel the same way about Dredd.  Given the size of the readership, that's essential. 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Beeks on 16 May, 2017, 10:31:32 am
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Its not Dredd 2, but we hope that you'll be excited by the next announcement ; )

Rebellion just posted this on Twitter

Urban confirmed maybe?!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 16 May, 2017, 10:48:08 am
Urban confirmed maybe?!

This far out, without a shooting schedule or even scripts, I'd be amazed if Urban could commit even if he wanted to. I'd be delighted if he did, though…!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 16 May, 2017, 10:51:09 am
It says not Dredd 2...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Beeks on 16 May, 2017, 10:52:56 am
Urban confirmed maybe?!

This far out, without a shooting schedule or even scripts, I'd be amazed if Urban could commit even if he wanted to. I'd be delighted if he did, though…!

That was my initial thought too Jim..we can but hope!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Beeks on 16 May, 2017, 10:55:11 am
It says not Dredd 2...

I can read  ;)

But it also says we will be excited by the next announcement

I was speculating on whether Karl is on board for the tv series

If not..wonder what it can be?!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 16 May, 2017, 10:59:00 am
Edgar Wright has been angling to do Strontium Dog since before Shaun of the Dead, had a meeting with John and Carlos last year and posted a pic of the Dredd vs Death statue from the Rebellion office, as mentioned by Goaty.

So it could be that.


Or it could be connected to Rogue Trooper.

Jason has hinted that other IPs other than Dredd may be in the offing.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 May, 2017, 11:02:50 am
Agree on all points, there.  With the possible very minor exception of the rather cold-blooded execution of Ma-Ma, I felt I was watching Judge Dredd throughout: turns out all the rest was just trappings.
Even the Ma-Ma ending is in keeping with some versions of Dredd. There are plenty of times where in the past he's killed people in fairly brutal ways and snarling at them. (That tends to happen less these days, admittedly.)

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For my money the Hellboy movies are more enjoyable than the comics they sort-of adapt (see also: Iron Man, Avengers etc), and I bet there are many people who feel the same way about Dredd.  Given the size of the readership, that's essential.
I much prefer the Hellboy comics, which are probably my favourite run of any comics (to the point I double dipped on those ludicrously expensive Library editions), but I really liked the movies anyway (and from an entertainment perspective, they're more fun than the thoughtful nature of a lot of the main comics run). I even bought the two animations, which were pretty good as well. (I recall one hangs together a lot better than the other – but not which one's which!)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Beeks on 16 May, 2017, 11:03:34 am
Edgar Wright has been angling to do Strontium Dog since before Shaun of the Dead, had a meeting with John and Carlos last year and posted a pic of the Dredd vs Death statue from the Rebellion office, as mentioned by Goaty.

So it could be that.


Or it could be connected to Rogue Trooper.

Jason has hinted that other IPs other than Dredd may be in the offing.

Aw man if they did Strontium Dog my head would explode..literally
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 16 May, 2017, 11:09:29 am
You should see the Doc about that.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: DrRocka on 16 May, 2017, 12:16:49 pm
Some things I can't fix.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 16 May, 2017, 12:30:29 pm
Pat's Millsverse page has also posted about an announcement today, but I'd think that's more likely to be an autobiography.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 16 May, 2017, 01:02:04 pm
It says not Dredd 2...

I can read  ;)

But it also says we will be excited by the next announcement

I was speculating on whether Karl is on board for the tv series

If not..wonder what it can be?!

OK, could be reading this the wrong way - they seem to be saying it's not a sequel to the person who asked if it's a reboot or sequel.

So the next announcement could be anything, writers, maybe directors interested.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Beeks on 16 May, 2017, 01:20:58 pm
It says not Dredd 2...

I can read  ;)

But it also says we will be excited by the next announcement

I was speculating on whether Karl is on board for the tv series

If not..wonder what it can be?!

OK, could be reading this the wrong way - they seem to be saying it's not a sequel to the person who asked if it's a reboot or sequel.

So the next announcement could be anything, writers, maybe directors interested.

You could be right..we will soon find out!  :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 16 May, 2017, 03:45:38 pm
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Its not Dredd 2, but we hope that you'll be excited by the next announcement ; )

Rebellion just posted this on Twitter

Urban confirmed maybe?!

Maybe it on next 2000AD email which out tomorrow...?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: amines2058 on 16 May, 2017, 03:54:52 pm
Pat's Millsverse page has also posted about an announcement today, but I'd think that's more likely to be an autobiography.

His twitter feed is now posting not very cryptic images and text

Soon.....from Pat Mills

followed by

Be Pure.....from Pat Mills

So I can hopefully assume that whatever it is is connected to Nemesis.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 16 May, 2017, 04:10:33 pm
Damn.....I want Karl Urban news so bad it hurts.....
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 16 May, 2017, 04:39:47 pm
I just wish he'd get on with finishing Requiem Vampire Knight!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: hazy efc on 16 May, 2017, 05:20:02 pm
I've been super busy and have literally just heard the news on the new Judge Dredd TV show and I'm beyond exited :D I really hope Karl is back to play Dredd but from the poster It looks like there going in a different direction from the Dredd movie.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ZenArcade on 16 May, 2017, 05:27:13 pm
I gotta say I'm shocked by how 'casual' 'Mega-City One - TV show announced!' posters like hazy efc just appear on here after what.....nearly 28 pages posting about Urban.  Bah the cheek.  Z  ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Woolly on 16 May, 2017, 06:19:07 pm
Things I want:

I really hope we get to see Brit-Cit at some point, and a spin off Armitage series if we're especially lucky.

As for the uniform, as long as it looks imposing enough I'll be happy. I remember not being particularly impressed when I first saw the image of the 2012 uniform, but when I saw Karl acting in it - yup, that was Dredd! And it worked beautifully!

I'm hoping the series makes it's own version of the Dredd history we all know, whilst also making a point to be it's own thing and surprise us from time to time. An endless regurgitation of stories and characters I already know would begin to grate eventually.

Judge Giant needs to be in it.

Even if this isn't going to be a continuation of the 2012 film, I hope Karl and Olivia can reprise their roles.

And, most of all, I really want to see 'written by John Wagner' in the credits.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ZenArcade on 16 May, 2017, 06:34:59 pm
Maybe give John Smith a couple of episodes.... Now that'd be TV viewing! Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 16 May, 2017, 06:51:10 pm
It would take him ten years to write them.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ZenArcade on 16 May, 2017, 06:57:09 pm
Ahhhhh, sure brag him up; get him motivated, we could hone him down to 18 months....surely??  Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: NapalmKev on 16 May, 2017, 06:58:41 pm
I really hope this comes to fruition! If it does, and runs for a good while,  I'd like to see Mcgruder going from SJS to Chief Judge/Long Walk/Chief Judge again. In fact I'd like to see a whole lot more but I'm happy just to know that this venture could possibly happen.

Cheers
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: von Boom on 16 May, 2017, 07:13:03 pm
I think the best option, in the beginning at least, will be for them to produce something tangential to Dredd, but still encompassing it. This has two things going for it. First, it allows the creators a very free hand in producing a clear and coherent programme. And second, it means curmudgeonly 2000AD nerds will not be able to rend their shirts and exclaim 'THAT'S NOT HOW IT HAPPENED IN THE COMIC!'
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 16 May, 2017, 07:15:10 pm
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An endless regurgitation of stories and characters I already know would begin to grate eventually.

Yes, while I want the series to include and be true to the characters, they could do that and still come up with original stories.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 16 May, 2017, 07:29:19 pm
For all the faults of both the comic and the programme, I like the Walking Dead approach - lots of characters and plotlines in common, but their fates often play out quite differently in each.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 16 May, 2017, 07:40:13 pm
Lots of great plotlines which could be followed, such as Orlok infiltrating the city, Hershey in her last few months/years at the Academy, Cal's descent into madness, Call-Me-Kenneth's rise to dissatisfied sentience, oh Lordy!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pete Wells on 16 May, 2017, 09:02:53 pm
Lots of great plotlines which could be followed, such as Orlok infiltrating the city, Hershey in her last few months/years at the Academy, Cal's descent into madness, Call-Me-Kenneth's rise to dissatisfied sentience, oh Lordy!

I love ALL of those ideas Sharky!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 16 May, 2017, 09:12:54 pm
It should obviously be Karl Urban reading out the contents of the politics thread.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Woolly on 16 May, 2017, 09:15:29 pm
Cal's descent into madness

Much as I'd love to see all the greats on screen, this is the one I could live without. It'd have to be adapted to the point of being unrecognisable.
Personally, I'd prefer to see the Sinfield kind of corruption going on.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 16 May, 2017, 09:37:48 pm
Lots of great plotlines which could be followed, such as Orlok infiltrating the city, Hershey in her last few months/years at the Academy, Cal's descent into madness, Call-Me-Kenneth's rise to dissatisfied sentience, oh Lordy!

I love ALL of those ideas Sharky!

Note to producers: I'm available and cheap!

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: jackstarr on 16 May, 2017, 09:43:05 pm
Cal's descent into madness

Much as I'd love to see all the greats on screen, this is the one I could live without. It'd have to be adapted to the point of being unrecognisable.
Personally, I'd prefer to see the Sinfield kind of corruption going on.

But that'd mean no Judge Fish  :'(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 16 May, 2017, 09:54:48 pm
The thought of viewers only familiar with 2012 Dredd reacting to a goldfish deputy chief judge does have some appeal...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 16 May, 2017, 10:52:48 pm
Trying to adapt Judge Cal would kill the series.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 17 May, 2017, 01:08:54 am
Don't know if anyone's mentioned this but perhaps some smart writer could adapt City Of The Damned with an actual ending, as I understand it Wagner and Grant got fed up of writing that series and ended it prematurely. Also The Haunting of Sector House 9 was always a favourite of mine.
 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 17 May, 2017, 02:38:40 am
And whose saying I get to tell anyone what Dredd should or shouldn't be?   Ever heard of something called an opinion?

Don't worry, ABCwarBOT -- you haven't done anything wrong.  Everybody here gets a bit tired & emotional when it comes to Dredd appearing on-screen.  Blows are exchanged and apologies usually handed-out afterwards.

(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/f6/f6b58d80f9bda9a43b6ee9c4698970102575ad4e2a5f0f542c2d4ff9a4db9362.jpg)  (https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png)

Probably not though. It's not that ABCwarBOT is not entitled to have an opinion, of course he is (assuming a "he"), it's the generally aggressive and condescending way that it's been communicated to other forum members that has been the problem.

You can also appreciate that it's obviously going to be inflammatory for a self confessed casual reader (and no offence is implied in that statement) to turn up and appear to start telling the 40-year crowd exactly how Dredd should be done right. It would be fair to say ABCWARBOT that you are preaching to an audience that include people who have pretty much read EVERY Dredd story ever published. It doesn't make us right, because there is no "right" (see my earlier Rants on not listening to fans!), but im sure that you can understand why it might get people's backs up.

Let's get back to the far more important chain links problem.......Ron Smith drew loads! 😊



I don't remember being condascending and aggressive (you should have seen some peoples aggressive reactions to me when I first came on here).    I was accused of being 'you know who' because I said I wasn't fussed on the Lawmaster, uniform and a few other things.   Even though I've often said Dredd was still a good film.

As for being a casual fan well I've still bought many comics over the years and have issue 1 all the way up to 219 plus many issues after that.   I still know a lot about Dredd and that the character is still pretty much the same as when he started. 

And the early 70s comics are the main Dredd for me.   That's where it all started and that's what I mainly need.  I don't need to read every issue right up to the latest date in 2017.  I bet there's a lot of repetition and it's very hard to keep things original and fresh after so many issues.   Again I have bought issues right up until very recently -- just not every week or month.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 17 May, 2017, 02:45:14 am
And whose saying I get to tell anyone what Dredd should or shouldn't be?   Ever heard of something called an opinion?

Don't worry, ABCwarBOT -- you haven't done anything wrong.  Everybody here gets a bit tired & emotional when it comes to Dredd appearing on-screen.  Blows are exchanged and apologies usually handed-out afterwards.

(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/f6/f6b58d80f9bda9a43b6ee9c4698970102575ad4e2a5f0f542c2d4ff9a4db9362.jpg)  (https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png)


Thanks.   I suppose it's inevitable when people have ideas of what they want to see on screen.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 17 May, 2017, 02:52:16 am
Lots of great plotlines which could be followed, such as Orlok infiltrating the city, Hershey in her last few months/years at the Academy, Cal's descent into madness, Call-Me-Kenneth's rise to dissatisfied sentience, oh Lordy!

I love ALL of those ideas Sharky!



Yes interesting ideas.    The potential for this series could be very large and could other 2000AD characters end up in it too like Marvel's shared universe?   

I'd like to see Ro Busters in it also.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 17 May, 2017, 05:59:51 am
Trying to adapt Judge Cal would kill the series.

They could pull it off on a later season if they wanted, while changing things a bit. Would be pretty similar to Joffrey on Game of Thrones ruling in some ways, since that character is also inspired by Caligula.

That sort of thing where a huge arc encompasses much or all of a season probably wouldn't be what the first couple years would go for, but I'll take anything they want to do.  :) I like the ideas people posted about building up some things along the way.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 17 May, 2017, 06:41:42 am
I would include Cal from the beginning,  as a stomm-hot SJS judge on the fast track to promotion, his mental problems increasing along with his success. He wouldn't get to be Chief Judge until season six or seven...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pete Wells on 17 May, 2017, 07:05:13 am
Yeah, that's what I'd assumed. I hope the series does a Wagner by planting the seeds and playing the long game.

For example, in an earlier post, I said I'd love to see the rise of PJ Maybe but again, I'd want this to be slow. An innocuous, murdrous kid gets away with a few distinctive killings in an episode in S1, the audience know who the killer but the cast doesn't. Someone else does time for his crimes, much to his advantage.  Similar deaths alluded to across season 1 then in season 2 we see him a bit older, maybe studying politics at MCU, bumping a few classmates/political folk off. Again, the judges get tantalisingly close but fudge the investigation due to PJ's cunning.

So on and on until he's extremely powerful both socially and politically and can/does have a genuine effect on the running of the Justice Dept. I think the series needs ambition like this - I want to see a million click bait articles getting the public guessing about the motivations of such and such in Dredd. Generate that hype and ensure that seasons are renewed to continue the arcs of exciting bit players.

Gruddamn, we've been lucky as comic readers haven't we? The rise of PJ was just wonderfully handled by Mr Wagner. Right until the last couple of strips, I was even kinda rooting for the diabolical little prick! It's great on the rare occasions when someone gets one over on Dredd (Chopper, Sardini) and PJ's personal sacrifices in terms of his constant body swaps, surgery etc always made me just sympathetic enough to care a little for him.

I'd also said I want to see Mechanismo, but again, this would be a loooong way down the line.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pete Wells on 17 May, 2017, 07:27:33 am
Last thing, I promise!

 I hope they don't arrest Dredd possibly at all, if not a long way into it. It's a lazy trope that the Stallone movie blundered straight into and the first ever Big Finish audio drama kicked off with. Yes, we know Dredd is motivated by the law and by stripping him of that adds an element of drama, but it just makes the Justice dept look stupid.  I hope they can resist!

I would, however, love to see the SJS at work, maybe with a young schemer like Cal at the head. He/she could remove people that mean a lot to Dredd and the audience and be a real thorn in Dredd's side, pulling many strings in the background. Imagine the shock of seeing a popular, Giant-esque  character sentenced to Titan for something we all know they didn't do. Sinfield was great in this role, I'd like to see a similar interdepartment threat in the show...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: hazy efc on 17 May, 2017, 08:20:50 am
I gotta say I'm shocked by how 'casual' 'Mega-City One - TV show announced!' posters like hazy efc just appear on here after what.....nearly 28 pages posting about Urban.  Bah the cheek.  Z  ;)
To be fair mate I did hear something over the weekend about the new TV show but after the whole Dredd sequel headache I didn't even bother to check out whether the TV show was an actual thing my hopes have been dashed enough in the past😢, but the TV show is actually happening so all's good in the world 👍
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 17 May, 2017, 08:36:18 am
On arresting Dredd, quite a few things don't work unless you have the foundations set first. Fans often clamour for Death but he makes no sense without knowledge of Dredd, and nor do things like Mechanismo, Cal and 'doubts' about the system. As noted, this was the key problem with the Stallone film – there's no drama in Dredd being arrested within a few minutes. In season six of a TV show though...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Greg M. on 17 May, 2017, 08:57:06 am
Sinfield was great in this role, I'd like to see a similar interdepartment threat in the show...

I think Judge Edgar would be ideal for this sort of thing - an ambiguous nemesis who doesn't pose a physical threat but is ruthlessly manipulative.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 17 May, 2017, 09:12:18 am
On arresting Dredd, quite a few things don't work unless you have the foundations set first. Fans often clamour for Death but he makes no sense without knowledge of Dredd, and nor do things like Mechanismo, Cal and 'doubts' about the system. As noted, this was the key problem with the Stallone film – there's no drama in Dredd being arrested within a few minutes. In season six of a TV show though...

Death can work, since having out of nowhere crazy things happen is the status quo in the comics. I wouldn't put it near the beginning of the first season, but as a two parter that stands alone, would be memorable. Maybe season 2.

Since Judge Death wasn't intended to make conventional sense when he first appeared, he came out of nowhere and it was like nothing they had encountered. Though with the show they could add some more foreshadowing, maybe Anderson having a couple visions in prior episodes.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 17 May, 2017, 09:13:53 am
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...all the way up to 219

 :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 17 May, 2017, 09:16:26 am
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I bet there's a lot of repetition and it's very hard to keep things original and fresh after so many issues.
How would you know?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 May, 2017, 09:21:02 am
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I bet there's a lot of repetition and it's very hard to keep things original and fresh after so many issues.
How would you know?

Claire Voyance here!  :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 17 May, 2017, 09:29:26 am
I don't think they'll be any robots, mutants or aliens as they're expensive to make and this is a TV show. Budgets must limit the scale inevitably till it's judged a success. Still, that leaves plenty of storylines available to the creators and it's more than likely they have their own ideas since they'd hardly take on the expense of producing a TV series without some game plan in mind. 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 17 May, 2017, 09:39:08 am
 Quote : ABCWARBOT:
"I still know a lot about Dredd and that the character is still pretty much the same as when he started"

If you follow the John Wagner continuity of Dredd, I would argue that the character has changed over the decades as he has grown old. His views have softened, such as his views on mutants, democracy, the judge system etc. 

Though we do seem to be moving away from these aspects of the character (to the strips detriment in my opinion) over the last year or two, perhaps a result of the decrease in Wagner scripts.

The doubts Dredd has with the system would not be well served in a movie as it would need a longer run time to do justice, but a TV series could use it effectively.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 May, 2017, 09:43:46 am
Quote : ABCWARBOT:
"I still know a lot about Dredd and that the character is still pretty much the same as when he started"


Isn't this the person who's only read a few stories since the 70's?

Fair to say they won't be consulted on the development of the show.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ZenArcade on 17 May, 2017, 09:47:21 am
As others keep saying, take it step by step: develop the background of the City, Judges etc.  The big themes can wait.
Overload, risks killing this off.  Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 17 May, 2017, 12:53:56 pm
The advantage we have is 40 years of stories. Hundreds of seeds could potentially be planted, some to grow, some to wither and some as red-herrings or Easter eggs to wrong-foot or titillate the fans. You could even have the whole Harlem Heroes storyline playing out strictly in the background, incidentally on holoscreens or vidzines or in citizens' conversations, for example.

We've got the depth, let's use it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: James Stacey on 17 May, 2017, 01:04:50 pm
https://2000ad.com/post/1794

Jason Kingsley answers the Karl Urban question. It's not bad news.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 17 May, 2017, 01:38:15 pm
Death can work, since having out of nowhere crazy things happen is the status quo in the comics. I wouldn't put it near the beginning of the first season
That was my caveat too. Death works when you have something to compare him to. Shoving him in right at the start makes no sense. (I also liked the way he was introduced in the comic, like a bolt from the blue. I'm not sure you need any foreshadowing. Just drop him in one week and play.)

Quote : ABCWARBOT:
"I still know a lot about Dredd and that the character is still pretty much the same as when he started"
If you follow the John Wagner continuity of Dredd, I would argue that the character has changed over the decades as he has grown old. His views have softened, such as his views on mutants, democracy, the judge system etc.
What's the saying? Something like Judge Dredd changes like a glacier. From week to week, it's not obvious, but read a contemporary Dredd and it's a world away from the classic era, and especially from the Silver days. Dredd's gone from essentially being a yes-man for the system, to trying to reform it in his image of justice, to more recently recognising that changes might be coming (through the likes of America Jara). His stance on various issues, as SIP says, has very much softened. He's still a hard-arse for the most part, but I imagine if the Dredd of today somehow met his counterpart from 2100, he'd think him a bit of a dick.

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The doubts Dredd has with the system would not be well served in a movie as it would need a longer run time to do justice, but a TV series could use it effectively.
Doubts need a trigger, and a trigger only works when you have familiarity with the system. There's a sense of groundwork for that perhaps happening in the movie: Anderson in particular tries a more human approach. (There's also an accelerated take on the glacier, in Dredd's opinion of Anderson shifting as she proves her worth.)

It's interesting to think where this could all go if it sticks around for the long term. I just hope they manage to get it off the ground at all – lots of challenges and roadblocks ahead! 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 17 May, 2017, 01:39:53 pm
https://2000ad.com/post/1794

Jason Kingsley answers the Karl Urban question. It's not bad news.

Audio :(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 17 May, 2017, 01:40:24 pm
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Jason Kingsley answers the Karl Urban question.
I can't watch videos at work, what does he say?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Spaceghost on 17 May, 2017, 02:14:53 pm
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Jason Kingsley answers the Karl Urban question.
I can't watch videos at work, what does he say?

Basically that they really would like Karl Urban (and Olivia Thirlby) to return, and he's keen too, but it's too early to plan or confirm anything.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 17 May, 2017, 02:21:37 pm
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Jason Kingsley answers the Karl Urban question.
I can't watch videos at work, what does he say?

Basically that they really would like Karl Urban (and Olivia Thirlby) to return, and he's keen too, but it's too early to plan or confirm anything.

There is hope! 😊
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: hazy efc on 17 May, 2017, 02:27:44 pm
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Jason Kingsley answers the Karl Urban question.
I can't watch videos at work, what does he say?

Basically that they really would like Karl Urban (and Olivia Thirlby) to return, and he's keen too, but it's too early to plan or confirm anything.
But then brian Jenkins went on to say that this isn't going to be Dredd 2 which makes me think were getting new actors to play Dredd & Anderson and that's if Anderson shows up at all, but fingers crossed that Karl & Olivia reprise there rolls that'd be fantastic if they did.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 17 May, 2017, 02:33:17 pm
Do they explicitly say it's not in the same reality, or just that it's not a sequel to the film?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Spaceghost on 17 May, 2017, 02:41:22 pm
Do they explicitly say it's not in the same reality, or just that it's not a sequel to the film?

Explicitly not the same reality as the film.

They talk about wanting to take the best elements from the Stallone film (look of the city, wacky future elements) and the Urban film (gritty, hard) and create a hybrid.

Also discussed having a mix of screenwriters and actual 2000 AD script droids working on the storylines.

All sounds very exciting.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 17 May, 2017, 02:55:00 pm
Do they explicitly say it's not in the same reality, or just that it's not a sequel to the film?

Explicitly not the same reality as the film.

They talk about wanting to take the best elements from the Stallone film (look of the city, wacky future elements) and the Urban film (gritty, hard) and create a hybrid.

Also discussed having a mix of screenwriters and actual 2000 AD script droids working on the storylines.

All sounds very exciting.

Thats really deflating news for me, as I am firmly in the camp of wanting to see any continuation of the 2012 film.

I guess this news now  officially kills that ever happening, so i guess I'll go into mourning now.

No more "Dredd" :-(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Spaceghost on 17 May, 2017, 02:56:18 pm
Do they explicitly say it's not in the same reality, or just that it's not a sequel to the film?

Explicitly not the same reality as the film.

They talk about wanting to take the best elements from the Stallone film (look of the city, wacky future elements) and the Urban film (gritty, hard) and create a hybrid.

Also discussed having a mix of screenwriters and actual 2000 AD script droids working on the storylines.

All sounds very exciting.

Thats really deflating news for me, as I am firmly in the camp of wanting to see any continuation of the 2012 film.

I guess this news now  officially kills that ever happening, so i guess I'll go into mourning now.

No more "Dredd" :-(

There's every chance we'll end up with something even better. Don't give up hope!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ZenArcade on 17 May, 2017, 03:02:37 pm
Wait up SIP,  if they were or are actively thinking of taking on Urban and Thirlby then extremely strong elements of the 12 movie would have to pull through with that.  Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: James Stacey on 17 May, 2017, 03:15:19 pm
Basically they say if Urban and Thrilby want the jobs and are able to commit to the jobs the jobs are theirs. After that it just comes down to ascetics really.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 17 May, 2017, 03:19:40 pm
I think that's great news. No going "into mourning" for me, it's PaRtY TiMe!!!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 17 May, 2017, 03:24:01 pm
Wait up SIP,  if they were or are actively thinking of taking on Urban and Thirlby then extremely strong elements of the 12 movie would have to pull through with that.  Z

I'll have to hope for the best, but using the best elements from 1995 Judge Dredd is not what I was hoping for, the Dredd 2012 tone and city were really exciting and had an amazing oppressive, city on the brink of chaos feel. The city in Judge Dredd 1995 plays more to the light hearted, comedic elements of Dredd which I have less interest in nowadays.

I'm sure it'll be great, but what I have always been excited for is the continuation of Dredd 2012, rather than a new continuity, lighter, Judge Dredd series.

So, not party time for me. But happy for those who wanted a different direction.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 17 May, 2017, 03:26:25 pm
It doesn't sound like it's going to be lighter, they've said it will still be gritty. But one of the criticisms of the 2012 film was that it didn't look futuristic enough, and it sounds like they're going to address that. I'd be happy with a mix of the best elements of both films. Would be great if they kept Karl Urban.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 17 May, 2017, 03:32:19 pm
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Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 17 May, 2017, 03:33:28 pm
Wait up SIP,  if they were or are actively thinking of taking on Urban and Thirlby then extremely strong elements of the 12 movie would have to pull through with that.  Z

I don't think that follows at all.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 17 May, 2017, 03:36:34 pm
http://www.comicon.com/2017/05/17/the-judge-dredd-tv-show-may-be-both-dark-and-silly-what-brian-jenkins-and-jason-kingsley-have-to-say/ (http://www.comicon.com/2017/05/17/the-judge-dredd-tv-show-may-be-both-dark-and-silly-what-brian-jenkins-and-jason-kingsley-have-to-say/)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: TordelBack on 17 May, 2017, 03:41:47 pm
Again I'd reference Buffy TVS and Stargate: both series tweak their parent movies' setup to a greater or lesser degree to allow things to expand without really contradicting the foundations.  The last thing anyone going into writing a hopefully long-running TV series needs is to have their creative hands tied by adhering precisely to what appears in a 95 minute movie (or a 40 year comic strip, for that matter).  It needs to be its own TV format thing.

Also, it strikes me that in a city of 800 million people not every square inch is going to look like the streets (and even sector) around Peach Trees.  You can easily expand the SF crazy and dilute the transit vans without jettisoning the movie-style judge system and megablock grittiness.  Isn't that what we were hoping sequels would do anyway?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 17 May, 2017, 03:42:39 pm
Urban should guest occasionally as Fargo or play the original Rico for an episode or two. Best, I think, to move beyond him playing Dredd under the circumstances. He did a great job in the 2012 film but that's over with now so I think it's time to move on.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Spaceghost on 17 May, 2017, 03:45:03 pm
Urban should guest occasionally as Fargo or play the original Rico for an episode or two. Best, I think, to move beyond him playing Dredd under the circumstances. He did a great job in the 2012 film but that's over with now so I think it's time to move on.

Urban was pretty much the one element of Dredd 2012 that everyone agreed was perfect. If they can get him to reprise the role, they will.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: von Boom on 17 May, 2017, 03:47:23 pm
Any word on how many episodes to expect in a series/season?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 17 May, 2017, 04:02:27 pm
Standard online tellyboxing these days is, what, 10 or 13, depending on the network? (Well, aside from some terrestrial British stuff, which goes for movie-like threes, or short-run sixes.)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 17 May, 2017, 04:05:21 pm
I think they mention 13 hours a season in the podcast.

Of course that could change.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: A.Cow on 17 May, 2017, 04:06:50 pm
Quote : ABCWARBOT:
"I still know a lot about Dredd and that the character is still pretty much the same as when he started"
Isn't this the person who's only read a few stories since the 70's?

That's inaccurate to the original poster and unfair: you don't need to have read many Batman or Spider-man comics in the last 30 years to have a good idea of what those characters are about.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 17 May, 2017, 04:07:46 pm
I think they mention 13 hours a season in the podcast.


Same as most Netflix / Amazon series.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ZenArcade on 17 May, 2017, 04:14:19 pm
Tordel makes a good point (as ever).  The city can be utterly different in different places.  Like any large city there can be the utter hopelessness of Peach Trees and bright futuristic hubs.  Like SIP I'm down with the grit in many ways, but others want the weird Megalopolis, I hope the series finds a balance.  Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 17 May, 2017, 04:23:59 pm
When people talk about a sequel that follows the style of the 2012 film, bear in mind a mutated Satanus and the Angel Gang was on the cards if you believe Alex...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: James Stacey on 17 May, 2017, 05:06:12 pm
Tordel makes a good point (as ever).  The city can be utterly different in different places.  Like any large city there can be the utter hopelessness of Peach Trees and bright futuristic hubs. 
They mention this concept in the podcast too
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pete Wells on 17 May, 2017, 05:39:40 pm
I'm 20 minutes into the Megacast and I'm very happy with what I'm hearing. I've grinned like a Cheshire Cat several times. As I'm typing, they've just spoken about having a massive budget in terms of Telly.

They also talk about getting the right professionals in. I'd like to put Steve Green and Alex Ronald forward!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 17 May, 2017, 05:46:42 pm
LOL, I'm an OK generalist and getting something for nothing, but I can't imagine myself working on a big production.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Woolly on 17 May, 2017, 05:53:20 pm
LOL, I'm an OK generalist and getting something for nothing, but I can't imagine myself working on a big production.

Hoping you get to visit the set, at the very least.
Your cinematography and effects on Minty are certainly better than 'OK'!  :o
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pete Wells on 17 May, 2017, 05:58:49 pm
Yep and the Strontium Dog work takes it to another level. Don't sell yourself short Mr Green!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 17 May, 2017, 06:00:33 pm
You're very kind, there are far more talented specialists out there, and always wanting to up my game - more a matter of available time that restricts what I want to do.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 17 May, 2017, 06:29:34 pm
LOL, I'm an OK generalist and getting something for nothing, but I can't imagine myself working on a big production.
It is very thrilling.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pete Wells on 17 May, 2017, 07:25:20 pm
The guys on the Megacast said they are listening to the fans so the campaign begins here:

For the love of Grud, ditch the dweeb!

(https://s12.postimg.org/qpbygpljx/no_walter.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 17 May, 2017, 07:29:39 pm
???
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: M.I.K. on 17 May, 2017, 07:34:03 pm
WACIST!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 May, 2017, 07:36:13 pm
Quote : ABCWARBOT:
"I still know a lot about Dredd and that the character is still pretty much the same as when he started"
Isn't this the person who's only read a few stories since the 70's?

That's inaccurate to the original poster and unfair: you don't need to have read many Batman or Spider-man comics in the last 30 years to have a good idea of what those characters are about.

If you come across as a self-professed authority, I'd say you do.
Still, moving on.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 17 May, 2017, 07:49:02 pm
Heavy Metal Kid 'Call-me-Burdis' goes on the rampage and stomps towards Pete Wells Block.

To be played Godzilla style by CF in a robot suit smashing the crap out of miniature buildings.

+++CALL-ME-BURDIS WILL NOT BEHAVE+++
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 May, 2017, 07:52:58 pm
Heavy Metal Kid 'Call-me-Burdis' goes on the rampage and stomps towards Pete Wells Block.

To be played Godzilla style by CF in a robot suit smashing the crap out of miniature buildings.

+++CALL-ME-BURDIS WILL NOT BEHAVE+++

Trapped in the 'Cellar Of Dredd' with only a 1995 movie action figure for company!

"It puts the lotion in the basket or it gets the hose again!!!!"   :o
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2017, 10:02:24 pm
As I'm typing, they've just spoken about having a massive budget in terms of Telly.

They've yet to get a budget. They need to presell it first.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ZenArcade on 17 May, 2017, 10:08:43 pm
The Cellar of Dredd needs some potential expansion plans. Eh John?? Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Link Prime on 17 May, 2017, 10:49:49 pm
They've yet to get a budget.

Could maybe save a few quid hiring post-production editor Joseph J Soap.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2017, 11:04:43 pm
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Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 17 May, 2017, 11:43:05 pm
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No bog roll?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 18 May, 2017, 01:34:11 am
I don't think they'll be any robots, mutants or aliens as they're expensive to make and this is a TV show. Budgets must limit the scale inevitably till it's judged a success. Still, that leaves plenty of storylines available to the creators and it's more than likely they have their own ideas since they'd hardly take on the expense of producing a TV series without some game plan in mind.




I'm more for making the show grounded in a future reality as possible so I'm not so bothered about aliens and certainly supernatural stuff (sorry Judge Death fans.....I think he's a bit naff)  but I think robots and futuristic technology are a must.   They can do some through cgi and others with practical effects.    They should be able to do stuff like that these days in a tv show.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Andy Lambert on 18 May, 2017, 01:38:12 am
If shows like Doctor Who can knock out creatures and robots on a regular basis, I'm sure the supposedly big budget of this new Judge Dredd series will manage it too.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 18 May, 2017, 01:46:47 am
If shows like Doctor Who can knock out creatures and robots on a regular basis, I'm sure the supposedly big budget of this new Judge Dredd series will manage it too.


Definitely!    And there's been some great robots n stuff in the comics.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 18 May, 2017, 01:50:48 am
Wait up SIP,  if they were or are actively thinking of taking on Urban and Thirlby then extremely strong elements of the 12 movie would have to pull through with that.  Z

I'll have to hope for the best, but using the best elements from 1995 Judge Dredd is not what I was hoping for, the Dredd 2012 tone and city were really exciting and had an amazing oppressive, city on the brink of chaos feel. The city in Judge Dredd 1995 plays more to the light hearted, comedic elements of Dredd which I have less interest in nowadays.

I'm sure it'll be great, but what I have always been excited for is the continuation of Dredd 2012, rather than a new continuity, lighter, Judge Dredd series.

So, not party time for me. But happy for those who wanted a different direction.



You can have the overcrowded, high tech look of the 1995 film with highways in the clouds, flying cars etc but still have the gritty feel of the Dredd city.  Some parts of the city can be wealthy and cleaner and other parts can be shiteholes like in Dredd.   Doesn't have to be lighter. 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 18 May, 2017, 01:55:04 am
Do they explicitly say it's not in the same reality, or just that it's not a sequel to the film?

Explicitly not the same reality as the film.

They talk about wanting to take the best elements from the Stallone film (look of the city, wacky future elements) and the Urban film (gritty, hard) and create a hybrid.

Also discussed having a mix of screenwriters and actual 2000 AD script droids working on the storylines.

All sounds very exciting.



I think that sounds very promising and exciting too.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 18 May, 2017, 01:59:34 am
Quote : ABCWARBOT:
"I still know a lot about Dredd and that the character is still pretty much the same as when he started"
Isn't this the person who's only read a few stories since the 70's?

That's inaccurate to the original poster and unfair: you don't need to have read many Batman or Spider-man comics in the last 30 years to have a good idea of what those characters are about.


Exactly and thanks for pointing that out.   Maybe I didn't make myself clear enough but I've bought the comic right up until very recently just not every week or month like I did in the 70s etc.   I dip into it every so often.   Same with Marvel.   I'll be buying it again very shortly too.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 18 May, 2017, 02:07:47 am
The guys on the Megacast said they are listening to the fans so the campaign begins here:

For the love of Grud, ditch the dweeb!

(https://s12.postimg.org/qpbygpljx/no_walter.jpg)



I know some fans don't like Walter but they could have him in the show and drop the W bits.   He could just be called Walter the Robot.

And as well as Ro Busters I'd have Robohunter and his sidekick Boots in there too.   Again the potential for this show could be enormous with all the rich history of characters to delve into (even though Dredd should be the main character).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 18 May, 2017, 02:15:10 am
Max Normal too please! Any recurring fun character is something they could play around with.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 18 May, 2017, 02:29:04 am
Max Normal too please! Any recurring fun character is something they could play around with.



Definitely.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: A.Cow on 18 May, 2017, 05:40:33 am
The guys on the Megacast said they are listening to the fans so the campaign begins here:
For the love of Grud, ditch the dweeb!
I know some fans don't like Walter but they could have him in the show and drop the W bits.   He could just be called Walter the Robot.

IMHO I think Walter the Wobot presents an excellent opportunity to explore pathos in the series.  He doesn't have to be a one-dimensional Jar-Jar Binks comic relief job.

As a downtrodden droid, mistreated because of his speech impediment, he'd give a great opportunity to explore the relationship between citizens and their servile robots.  As in the comics, he could be a recurring character, popping up occasionally.  There are undoubtedly ways to do this well.  Hodor (from Game of Thrones) springs to mind.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pete Wells on 18 May, 2017, 07:01:37 am
Or, he could have a hover bus dropped on him in the first minute of episode one! He's dwokking wubbi-, I mean, drokking rubbish!

SCWAP THE PWAT!  :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 18 May, 2017, 07:17:31 am
I'm really hoping with the violent nature of Dredd that this series is going to be more pitched at a walking dead TV show level. . . . Walter is a character aimed at children under 10.

Walter (and Max Normal) I can live without. I get why long time readers have a nostalgic place in their hearts for them, but would they really work for general viewers? You'd need a very soft touch with them as they are marmite even for prog readers.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Spaceghost on 18 May, 2017, 08:09:50 am
I'm really hoping with the violent nature of Dredd that this series is going to be more pitched at a walking dead TV show level. . . . Walter is a character aimed at children under 10.

Walter (and Max Normal) I can live without. I get why long time readers have a nostalgic place in their hearts for them, but would they really work for general viewers? You'd need a very soft touch with them as they are marmite even for prog readers.

A little Walter cameo as a nod to the fans would be cool. I think an oddball informant for Dredd's team could work though.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: CalHab on 18 May, 2017, 08:42:28 am
The tone of the comic is all over the place, which is fine because its read over a long period and its what readers expect and enjoy. I don't think TV viewers would know what was happening if there was a comedy robot saga one week and a brutal drug bust the next.

Obviously there needs to be room for Sensitive Klegg, though.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 18 May, 2017, 09:43:15 am
The tone of the comic is all over the place, which is fine because its read over a long period and its what readers expect and enjoy. I don't think TV viewers would know what was happening if there was a comedy robot saga one week and a brutal drug bust the next.

Obviously there needs to be room for Sensitive Klegg, though.
Indeed. It could end up being like the X-Files reboot, in that it felt like fan service, but was just a shambles overall as it veered from the sinister, dark overtones of the original 90's series, to the "what the fuck is this shit?" whacky comedy schlock. It ended up being a sort of "pick'n'mix" of a mess. No anthology style, tone meandering. I think it needs to pick one tone, with sprinkles and nods to the comic here and there.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: TordelBack on 18 May, 2017, 09:49:21 am
The tone of X-Files was frequently over the place, but you can get away with that spread across 200 episodes... less so with just 6.  Personally I think potential Dredd-comparanda like the Netflix Marvel shows could use a bit more variation in tone and theme, where one episode tends to blend into another unless a guest star pops up.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 18 May, 2017, 10:48:10 am
I think there's also a certain nostalgia in the nature of people's memories of Dredd. Walter and quite a lot of other aspects of the strip are a very 1970s version of the future. Robots these days are often invisible (production ones, or those within devices) or terrifying (Boston Dynamics), and those seem to be more likely paths than a waddling drinks dispenser. I suppose that's in part why I liked Dredd so much: I could relate to it on the screen. It felt like it could be real. Early Dredd transplanted directly to screen would feel like a cartoon to me.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 18 May, 2017, 10:52:42 am
or terrifying (Boston Dynamics)

"They sent a slamhound on Turner's trail in New Delhi, slotted it to his pheromones and the color of his hair." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNZPRsrwumQ)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: CalHab on 18 May, 2017, 10:56:03 am
Early Dredd transplanted directly to screen would feel like a cartoon to me.

Absolutely. There's also a heavy nostalgia factor among readers for the early Dredds. When you read them fresh you soon realise that a lot of them haven't stood the test of time. There is a reason that new readers of Dredd are not advised to start with Case Files 1.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 18 May, 2017, 10:59:29 am
"They sent a slamhound on Turner's trail in New Delhi, slotted it to his pheromones and the color of his hair." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNZPRsrwumQ)
Even creepier: their Happy Holidays horror show (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDZu04v7_hc).

Absolutely. There's also a heavy nostalgia factor among readers for the early Dredds. When you read them fresh you soon realise that a lot of them haven't stood the test of time.
I enjoy reading old Dredds but they do feel relatively one-dimensional. Thing is, that's the Dredd a lot of people remember and clamour after. I can't imagine it'd hold up well on the telly across 13+ hours though.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 18 May, 2017, 11:07:05 am
Maybe the timeline will pick up after Dredd 2012 stories in Meg mags?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 18 May, 2017, 11:08:29 am
Maybe the timeline will pick up after Dredd 2012 stories in Meg mags?

So they're going to create a series in which only people who've seen the 2012 film and read the Megazine will properly understand? That'll work well…
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 18 May, 2017, 11:10:15 am
ok
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 18 May, 2017, 11:12:39 am
I could certainly see an episode in robot tech going haywire, a Big Dog robot auxillary having a proto-mechanismo moment - Although the comics have that with the lawmasters going apeshit, I think something like big dog would be creepier.

Coming from the micro-budget fan film end - I think smaller budget episodes in a restricted location would be interesting.

If you had a recurring set like an H-Wagon interior, it could be something that is more like a tank crew episode, and the exterior info is mostly related via screens or audio. H-Wagon down in gang territory for example.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 18 May, 2017, 11:20:24 am
Stories written for boys 40 years ago are hardly going to contain satirical revelations about today's society. Still, Lawmaster on the loose does stick in my memory as an episode that showed the Judges could be as dangerous as the crims. 'Thank God you Judges are here to protect us!' says one of the run over Citizens to an indiffernet
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 18 May, 2017, 11:22:49 am
Stories written for boys 40 years ago are hardly going to contain satirical revelations about today's society. Still, Lawmaster on the loose does stick in my memory as an episode that showed the Judges could be as dangerous as the crims. 'Thank God you Judges are here to protect us!' says one of the run over Citizens to an indifferent Judge Dredd which is for my money a little wry to say the least. Anyway back to the blind watchmakers trying to predict something that is two years away at least. Face changing machines anyone?   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 18 May, 2017, 11:26:49 am
I'm not sure on the bike - although they had it voice activated in the 2012 movie, it's a big difference between that and it full-on Herbie/Knight Rider.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Beeks on 18 May, 2017, 11:47:02 am
Block Mania!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 18 May, 2017, 11:50:41 am
Animated, with Mick drawing every frame.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 18 May, 2017, 12:14:36 pm
Just gimme some Oola Blint episodes...!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 18 May, 2017, 12:14:55 pm
After listening to the podcast I'm happy. They seem to be going in a direction I can follow without any major complaints or reservations. Of course I'd love to be involved with this project in some way (who amongst us wouldn't?) but that's not going to happen so it's the next best thing to know that the people who are involved love Dredd and his world as much as I do.

Maybe the likes of us can influence things a bit, though, and so here's a try at that: Naming blocks after real people may be problematic in our modern sue, sue, sue society - so how about throwing in a few named after fans? I'd love to see a Tordelback Block, a Hawkmumbler Underpass or a Roger Godpleton Public Toilet Complex...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Link Prime on 18 May, 2017, 12:45:11 pm
Just gimme some Oola Blint episodes...!

How's Charlize Theron's schedule for 2018?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 18 May, 2017, 01:02:43 pm
The most interesting Dredd's for me are the procedural episodes involving the resources of justice department and an investigating Dredd. These kind of storylines would also perhaps be the most accessible to a general audience.

Wobots, rampaging lawmasters, max normal, not the right way to go.

Pleased don't let this be "wacky" in any way. The tone should be serious with an undercurrent of nihilistic black humour.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Andy Lambert on 18 May, 2017, 01:11:52 pm
Nah, sorry - I'm one of those that want to see the muties, robots, Dark Judges and things that go bump in the night. They're as much a part of Dredd's history as the police procedurals and we shouldn't feel embarrassed by them.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 18 May, 2017, 01:13:27 pm
Awful lots of Do want it and Don't want it on here.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 18 May, 2017, 01:15:45 pm
I don't mind what they have or not on the productions but I do want one thing they got; excellent writers!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Andy Lambert on 18 May, 2017, 01:16:22 pm
What's wrong with that? It's a discussion group after all...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: NapalmKev on 18 May, 2017, 01:19:30 pm
I think there's room for all kinds of storylines in the show, just as there is in main strip. Although I'd prefer it if they didn't do the 'Judge Cal' storyline fully, maybe just mentioning it as a throwaway line.*

Cheers

*Lauded by many but I thought it a bit shit, tbh.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: NapalmKev on 18 May, 2017, 01:20:22 pm
Awful lots of Do want it and Don't want it on here.

Opinions are great - everybody should have one!

Cheers
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Andy Lambert on 18 May, 2017, 01:23:33 pm
Pretty sure none of us here are under any illusion that what we discuss here will influence the making of the show, but it's fun to speculate and fantasise. No harm in that.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 18 May, 2017, 01:23:55 pm
I think America would be great start to the Series? Get the new viewers familiar with the Mega-City One.

Karl did this;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JFgxnWVBL4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JFgxnWVBL4)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 18 May, 2017, 01:27:30 pm
Nah, sorry - I'm one of those that want to see the muties, robots, Dark Judges and things that go bump in the night. They're as much a part of Dredd's history as the police procedurals and we shouldn't feel embarrassed by them.

Hallelujah! My Mega-City One is a place of fatties, aliens, talking gorillas, sensitive kleggs, uglies, simps, and buisness men with shark heads.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Andy Lambert on 18 May, 2017, 01:29:56 pm
America is brilliant, but I'd say it would benefit more from appearing later - late series 1, or series 2 perhaps, so the poignancy of the story has the greatest impact. I guess the first few episodes should involve more "routine" cases allowing for the audience to get acquainted with Mega-City 1 and it's inhabitants.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Andy Lambert on 18 May, 2017, 01:32:28 pm
Nah, sorry - I'm one of those that want to see the muties, robots, Dark Judges and things that go bump in the night. They're as much a part of Dredd's history as the police procedurals and we shouldn't feel embarrassed by them.

Hallelujah! My Mega-City One is a place of fatties, aliens, talking gorillas, sensitive kleggs, uglies, simps, and buisness men with shark heads.

Amen to that! :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 18 May, 2017, 01:58:46 pm
Nah, sorry - I'm one of those that want to see the muties, robots, Dark Judges and things that go bump in the night. They're as much a part of Dredd's history as the police procedurals and we shouldn't feel embarrassed by them.

Hallelujah! My Mega-City One is a place of fatties, aliens, talking gorillas, sensitive kleggs, uglies, simps, and buisness men with shark heads.

I just think it would all turnoff the wider audience. It is all part of Dredd history, but the hard-core Dredd fans will not be enough viewers to ensure a series is successful. You have to sell this to a wider audience. Sensitive Kleggs and Walter might endanger that. Ground this in the core material first, much like the film did, then expand if the series succeeds.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2017, 02:07:04 pm
The tone should be serious with an undercurrent of nihilistic black humour.

I believe a monotone representation of MC-1 would limit stories, be quite boring, and ultimately wouldn't last very long. The key is in the title, it's Judge Dredd: MEGA-CITY ONE - with emphasis on the latter.

It's a mistake to presume a version Mega City-1 with a fuller range of moods and tones on-screen wouldn't work. It can't really be written-off just because no one has ever tried doing it. I think a broader idea of Dredd and his world would actually be the opposite of an audience turn-off.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 18 May, 2017, 02:11:12 pm
I'd hate to see this turn into C.S.I.-M.C.1 - the aliens, robots, nuclear warheads, radioactive plagues and mutants are mundane, run-of-the-mill things in MC1 and should be treated as such by both writers and characters.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 18 May, 2017, 02:30:46 pm
The tone should be serious with an undercurrent of nihilistic black humour.

I believe a monotone representation of MC-1 would limit stories, be quite boring, and ultimately wouldn't last very long. The key is in the title, it's Judge Dredd: MEGA-CITY ONE - with emphasis on the latter.

It's a mistake to presume a version Mega City-1 with a fuller range of moods and tones on-screen wouldn't work. It can't really be written-off just because no one has ever tried doing it. I think a broader idea of Dredd and his world would actually be the opposite of an audience turn-off.

What Joe said.

And, as I pointed out - a mutant T-Rex and the Angel Gang were on the cards for sequels, even if a sequel directed by Alex had happened, it sounds like it would have been more out-there than 2012 Dredd.

Mad Max 2 compared to Mad Max.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: von Boom on 18 May, 2017, 02:50:44 pm
I'd hate to see this turn into C.S.I.-M.C.1 - the aliens, robots, nuclear warheads, radioactive plagues and mutants are mundane, run-of-the-mill things in MC1 and should be treated as such by both writers and characters.

This. Oh so much this.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 18 May, 2017, 03:00:09 pm
The tone should be serious with an undercurrent of nihilistic black humour.

I believe a monotone representation of MC-1 would limit stories, be quite boring, and ultimately wouldn't last very long. The key is in the title, it's Judge Dredd: MEGA-CITY ONE - with emphasis on the latter.

It's a mistake to presume a version Mega City-1 with a fuller range of moods and tones on-screen wouldn't work. It can't really be written-off just because no one has ever tried doing it. I think a broader idea of Dredd and his world would actually be the opposite of an audience turn-off.

The walking dead TV show has been a grim monotone for series after series extremely successfully. So can't agree on that point. Similarly game of thrones also holds a fairly dark tone with some use of humour.  Many a dredd epic has done exactly this and have been considered amongst the favourites of readers. Day of chaos for example.

We absolutely disagree on the direction we would want, I think packing in 40 years of the more wacky elements of Dredd would be a mistake.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 18 May, 2017, 03:04:49 pm
I have a box set of s5 of TWD sat on the shelf, lasted about one episode.

GOT has enough fun, and the thought that it's a finite story which keeps me engaged.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 18 May, 2017, 03:09:05 pm
I have a box set of s5 of TWD sat on the shelf, lasted about one episode.

GOT has enough fun, and the thought that it's a finite story which keeps me engaged.

Walking Dead, with exception of the most recent series which fell a little flat, has pretty much been some of my favourite TV. Like it or not, you can't deny it's success and appeal to a large audience.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SuperSurfer on 18 May, 2017, 03:11:53 pm
Reading the differing opinions on this thread it is evident that there is no 'fan consensus', which is just as well.

Having said that (sorry Mr Wells) only one thing (well, two) will make this series appeal to a wider audience.

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x141/mycenaean/Various/walter_zpsgaoekweg.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/mycenaean/media/Various/walter_zpsgaoekweg.jpg.html)

"Judge Dwedd, my hewo!"
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: von Boom on 18 May, 2017, 03:39:05 pm
Is that Rob Schneider? You want Walter voiced by Rob Schneider? *shudder*
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Beeks on 18 May, 2017, 03:47:10 pm
Is that Rob Schneider? You want Walter voiced by Rob Schneider? *shudder*

Chris Eubank to voice Walter..you heard it here first  :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SuperSurfer on 18 May, 2017, 03:56:28 pm
Is that Rob Schneider? You want Walter voiced by Rob Schneider? *shudder*
And Maria. That could work. Opens up the chance of a spin-off series. Walter & Maria.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 18 May, 2017, 03:57:56 pm
I have a box set of s5 of TWD sat on the shelf, lasted about one episode.

GOT has enough fun, and the thought that it's a finite story which keeps me engaged.

Walking Dead, with exception of the most recent series which fell a little flat, has pretty much been some of my favourite TV. Like it or not, you can't deny it's success and appeal to a large audience.

For me it's become a boring miserython, biding time waiting for character deaths or finding new ways to mutilate/torture them. Worked OK for a couple of seasons, too fucking depressing long-term for me.

I'd argue the same about comic Dredd, and the 2012 movie - it can't be permanently DoC doom. Fall of Deadworld gets a pass because it's new, and out and out weird, and not just a psycho with a baseball bat.

But hey, if it works for you... the world's depressing enough without spending 13 hours to have fantasy depression as a replacement.

I'd like a bit of fun with my escapism.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 18 May, 2017, 04:07:38 pm
I have a box set of s5 of TWD sat on the shelf, lasted about one episode.

GOT has enough fun, and the thought that it's a finite story which keeps me engaged.

Walking Dead, with exception of the most recent series which fell a little flat, has pretty much been some of my favourite TV. Like it or not, you can't deny it's success and appeal to a large audience.

For me it's become a boring miserython, biding time waiting for character deaths or finding new ways to mutilate/torture them. Worked OK for a couple of seasons, too fucking depressing long-term for me.

I'd argue the same about comic Dredd, and the 2012 movie - it can't be permanently DoC doom. Fall of Deadworld gets a pass because it's new, and out and out weird, and not just a psycho with a baseball bat.

But hey, if it works for you... the world's depressing enough without spending 13 hours to have fantasy depression as a replacement.

I'd like a bit of fun with my escapism.

It does work for me, and clearly does so for a global audience!

I'm just arguing how I think you could make the series have more viewer appeal. Walking dead has been a massive success. I'm arguing a slow build approach that gains a stable viewer base allowing the inclusion of the more fantastical elements later on when you have hooked viewers. Walking dead has done this very successfully and has achieved a large female audience to boot.

Surely we all want a success here so that we can see further series. Dredd 2012 was hardly a barrell of laughs and I had thought (until recent discussions) that we all, pretty much universally, loved that film?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: von Boom on 18 May, 2017, 04:11:02 pm
I have a box set of s5 of TWD sat on the shelf, lasted about one episode.

GOT has enough fun, and the thought that it's a finite story which keeps me engaged.

Walking Dead, with exception of the most recent series which fell a little flat, has pretty much been some of my favourite TV. Like it or not, you can't deny it's success and appeal to a large audience.

For me it's become a boring miserython, biding time waiting for character deaths or finding new ways to mutilate/torture them. Worked OK for a couple of seasons, too fucking depressing long-term for me.

I'd argue the same about comic Dredd, and the 2012 movie - it can't be permanently DoC doom. Fall of Deadworld gets a pass because it's new, and out and out weird, and not just a psycho with a baseball bat.

But hey, if it works for you... the world's depressing enough without spending 13 hours to have fantasy depression as a replacement.

I'd like a bit of fun with my escapism.

This is what I hope for as well. I find this trend to darker and darker stories a bit oppressive. I love the 2012 film, but there were some very dry moments of humour. I would like to see that taken a bit further with the series to capture the lighter tones of the comic as well.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 18 May, 2017, 04:15:37 pm
Ah, I'm done for now.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: M.I.K. on 18 May, 2017, 04:21:04 pm

For me it's become a boring miserython

For me, it started off as that, which is why I've only ever watched two full episodes.

Dreary soap opera guff. It might as well be Eastenders.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 18 May, 2017, 04:36:23 pm
or terrifying (Boston Dynamics)

"They sent a slamhound on Turner's trail in New Delhi, slotted it to his pheromones and the color of his hair." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNZPRsrwumQ)
If people could stop kicking the potential indestructible robots with increasingly advanced AI, that would be nice, thanks.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Tiplodocus on 18 May, 2017, 05:20:41 pm
Stick too closely to the 2012 template and it wouldn't look too different from lots of other things on TV.

I think we have an opportunity here to have something the likes of which has never been tried on TV.

I know which I'd prefer.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Andy Lambert on 18 May, 2017, 05:31:34 pm
Nah, sorry - I'm one of those that want to see the muties, robots, Dark Judges and things that go bump in the night. They're as much a part of Dredd's history as the police procedurals and we shouldn't feel embarrassed by them.

Hallelujah! My Mega-City One is a place of fatties, aliens, talking gorillas, sensitive kleggs, uglies, simps, and buisness men with shark heads.

I just think it would all turnoff the wider audience. It is all part of Dredd history, but the hard-core Dredd fans will not be enough viewers to ensure a series is successful. You have to sell this to a wider audience. Sensitive Kleggs and Walter might endanger that. Ground this in the core material first, much like the film did, then expand if the series succeeds.

Have you considered the possibility that some of the more outlandish aspects of Judge Dredd might appeal and pull in an audience rather than push them away? How will we know if they're for or against it if you deny them a chance to experience it?
The 2012 was brilliant, but it displays a tiny portion of life in and around Mega-City 1. By limiting Judge Dredd's potential for fear of alienating an audience, you're not getting proper Dredd. You're getting Dredd-Lite.
If the series does turn out to be a futuristic crime drama, I'd be sorely disappointed and frustrated.
Just my tuppence worth...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: von Boom on 18 May, 2017, 05:41:17 pm

For me it's become a boring miserython

For me, it started off as that, which is why I've only ever watched two full episodes.

Dreary soap opera guff. It might as well be Eastenders.

Ooooh, snap!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 18 May, 2017, 05:48:05 pm
Stick too closely to the 2012 template and it wouldn't look too different from lots of other things on TV.

I think we have an opportunity here to have something the likes of which has never been tried on TV.

I know which I'd prefer.

Yes, but that is also an opportunity to sink Dredd without a trace from TV screens for the foreseeable future. It'll be interesting to see if you are right when it comes to getting a network on board. "Let's try something new" versus "let's build on that thing that everyone really liked (eventually) and wants to see more of".

As for a tv audience enjoying a different take on Dredd, people are seriously misconstruing my comments.
To clarify: Dredd was a sleeper hit that generated such momentum that people have poured support into making its sequel. Perhaps I'm being presumptuous, but surely it has been that relentless support that has helped to drive this project forward?

Surely it stands to reason that all those people who have supported the campaign for Dredd 2 now actually want to see something in the style of "Dredd". Changing the nature of the beast entirely would appear to be an odd and potentially suicidal choice.

I'm expecting the other 150,000 + Dredd 2 petition signers to turn up any minute and help me out..........any minute now.......all those people who battered the "dredd" thread religiously......where are you??

Anyway, I'm bowing out of the debate at this point as I seem to be very much in the minority here (to my surprise). When you are the only person crying out for something, perhaps you need to realise when to give it a rest :-)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ZenArcade on 18 May, 2017, 05:54:10 pm
SIP you haven't put a foot wrong in this thread and. I admire and support your views in your posting. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 18 May, 2017, 05:54:14 pm
It's all about tone. Including some of the more zany, or supernatural, elements of the comic in a gritty, grounded approach a'la 2012 Dredd would be fine. After all, we had Anderson and her mind reading abilities in that film, along with a very over the top drug. You could see humour working in that world as well as any, again, if the tone is right. I mean, if it worked for Dirty Harry...

If you look at how Marvel has handled stuff like Daredevil on Netflix, I think there's a lesson to be taken from their way of doing things. Like the scene from the first X-Men film where Wolverine first puts on the X-Men uniform and says "You actually go out in these things?" to which Cyclops sarcastically replies "What would you prefer? Yellow Spandex?" Humor, with a nod to the original comic aesthetic as a joke. It works for the screen and the audience who know.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pete Wells on 18 May, 2017, 05:59:35 pm
Reading the differing opinions on this thread it is evident that there is no 'fan consensus', which is just as well.

Having said that (sorry Mr Wells) only one thing (well, two) will make this series appeal to a wider audience.

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x141/mycenaean/Various/walter_zpsgaoekweg.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/mycenaean/media/Various/walter_zpsgaoekweg.jpg.html)

"Judge Dwedd, my hewo!"

MY EYES!!!!!

My tuppenceworth. The beauty of the long form TV series, and hopefully one hour episodes, is the many arcs going on. So, while Anderson is investigating a genuinely chilling and grisly set of supernatural murders, Giant can be knee deep in an innovative, imaginative tek crime while Dredd is begrudgingly protecting an hilarious Sensitive Klegg. It can work so many levels if it's written well enough.

The only thing that won't work, is Walter the Wobot and that is because Pete Wells fucking hates him.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 18 May, 2017, 06:03:05 pm
SIP you haven't put a foot wrong in this thread and. I admire and support your views in your posting. Z

Cheers sir! Really appreciate that.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Andy Lambert on 18 May, 2017, 06:13:11 pm
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Anyway, I'm bowing out of the debate at this point as I seem to be very much in the minority here (to my surprise). When you are the only person crying out for something, perhaps you need to realise when to give it a rest :-)

Hey, I may not agree with everything you say, but you're putting your views across eloquently and with consideration, so please don't feel you can't continue to do that. My last post may have appeared a bit garbled and brusque, I was on a train at the time and didn't have time to say what I wanted to say properly.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what we talk about here - it's very unlikely to influence the making of the tv series. Shouldn't stop us from from a little wishful thinking though... ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 18 May, 2017, 06:33:38 pm
No worries Andy, I haven't taken any offence from anyone at all. Just think that I appear to have a contrary view to most of the direction of current, so probably less inflammatory if I step out of the debate.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2017, 07:06:00 pm
The walking dead TV show has been a grim monotone for series after series extremely successfully. So can't agree on that point. Similarly game of thrones also holds a fairly dark tone with some use of humour.  Many a dredd epic has done exactly this and have been considered amongst the favourites of readers. Day of chaos for example.

We absolutely disagree on the direction we would want, I think packing in 40 years of the more wacky elements of Dredd would be a mistake.

But Judge Dredd isn't The Walking Dead or Game of Thrones and that goes not just for the TV series but also the original comics and books of those 2 series. Dredd has a different set of tones, settings, stakes and a different purpose of intent. It's perfectly OK for a single episode or film to take a more serious angle for its duration but when a whole series of Dredd is stripped down and back to just being about future cops in a violent city, it can very easily slide into being just police-state porn, so it needs some element of the absurd and irony to off-set the harshness - to lampoon to a certain degree - because too much harshness in a show about an oppressive, walled city-state, really will turn-off a broader audience.

There's a tendency when adapting comics to just shoehorn them into or make them cohere to all ready established, well worn tropes or genre beats. Dredd needs to be more than just a comic that's watered down to the tropes of a police procedural or Homeland Security TV show. It needs to be a lot more than that, otherwise it's not really being faithful to the inventiveness and uniqueness of the source, and there's less of a point in spending so much adapting it when it would be cheaper to just do a series about fascist cops in a modern day setting.

There doesn't need to be '40 years of whackiness' in every show but it will be elevated when it's a little more than just the odd sarcastic/sardonic quip from Dredd. You only need to look at the comical or absurd elements in the recent Judge Harvey story to see that it still works and is still relevant - and how diminished would PJ Maybe be without the absurdity of his escapades mixed with his personal banality?

Think of RoboCop and how it neatly toes the line between its variety of themes and tones: urban harshness, fatalistic-futurism, social commentary, pathos and absurd humour are all perfectly juggled in one film.

Despite what many in the press often proclaim, Judge Dredd isn't just Dirty Harry set in the future.



Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 18 May, 2017, 07:15:22 pm
Things I want:

I really hope we get to see Brit-Cit at some point, and a spin off Armitage series if we're especially lucky.
Brit-Cit would be good (as a spin-off, in a CSI:$insert-city-here manner).
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Judge Giant needs to be in it.

Yep, though which one?
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Even if this isn't going to be a continuation of the 2012 film, I hope Karl and Olivia can reprise their roles.
Even if they're not the same characters, I'd like to see them make an appearance (think Superman / Smallville / Supergirl / New Adventures, with actors from one making appearances in what comes after).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 18 May, 2017, 07:47:37 pm
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It's all about tone. Including some of the more zany, or supernatural, elements of the comic in a gritty, grounded approach a'la 2012 Dredd would be fine.

I agree. But most of the people on this thread seem to be arguing in favour of a wacky comedy approach, which would certainly alienate most non-fans, and would be so different from the 2012 film that it wouldn't make sense to do it, given that (as SIP says) it's that groundswell of support inspired by the film which has led to this project. Nobody clamoured for a sequel to the 1995 film or for a TV series based on it.

As someone else said recently, there were already some interesting SF elements in the 2012 film, you've just forgotten them because we tend to take Anderson's psi powers for granted. We could have more stuff like that, but still have a show that non-comics-fans actually want to watch. What we can't have is a nostalgia-fest for people who love the first three Case Files. That won't work.

I think Game of Thrones went about it the right way: although set in a fantasy world, it started out down to earth, let us get to know the human characters, and gradually built up the dragons, zombies and magic. Having Judge Death in the first episode would be a mistake. By all means have him turn up later on.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2017, 08:37:48 pm
What we can't have is a nostalgia-fest for people who love the first three Case Files. That won't work.

I think relatively few are hankering after that but you can pretty much go through every era of Dredd and find some outstandingly inventive absurdist elements. Even taking examples from the earliest stories – are the Aggro Dome, Smokatorium, The Taxidermist and even Get Ugly, not brilliantly absurd creations from the early days that can't work?

It really is a question of degree – while churning out a weekly comic for teenagers didn't give much opportunity for reflection on output, the TV series should have the benefit of 4 decades worth of hindsight, so there will be ample opportunity to strike a balance between all the elements that have made Judge Dredd a worthwhile, thoughtful and humorous read for 40 years. How all those elements are brought in and out of focus during the duration of the series is the structural throughline to making it all work.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 18 May, 2017, 09:02:05 pm

...most of the people on this thread seem to be arguing in favour of a wacky comedy approach...



I don't think that's the case. It seems to me that the actual desire is for the absurd elements to remain an integral part of the story because the world is absurd and growing more so with each passing year. Much of the absurdity also stems from the crushing boredom of 400 million largely unemployed citizens looking for something new to distract and engage them. When those absurdities turn out to be dangerous, the judges have to deal with them. Those absurdities aren't just light-hearted comedic high-jinx, they're serious comments on real-world absurdities and vital - vital, I say - to Dredd's world.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 18 May, 2017, 09:08:39 pm
On arresting Dredd, quite a few things don't work unless you have the foundations set first. Fans often clamour for Death but he makes no sense without knowledge of Dredd, and nor do things like Mechanismo, Cal and 'doubts' about the system.

I don't know about that - Cal was pretty early in the strip's history.  Remember we didn't even have a year of Dredd Mega-City One stories before he was packed off to Luna-City One.  He came back for one week, then went off to the Cursed Earth.  The day he returned from that was the day the Law Died.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 18 May, 2017, 09:14:31 pm
The advantage we have is 40 years of stories. Hundreds of seeds could potentially be planted, some to grow, some to wither and some as red-herrings or Easter eggs to wrong-foot or titillate the fans. You could even have the whole Harlem Heroes storyline playing out strictly in the background, incidentally on holoscreens or vidzines or in citizens' conversations, for example.

We've got the depth, let's use it.

I really love the idea of having things like Harlem Heroes play out solely in the background.  Like flavour text for casual viewers but a real easter egg for the likes of us.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 18 May, 2017, 09:24:47 pm
...most of the people on this thread seem to be arguing in favour of a wacky comedy approach...

I don't think that's the case. It seems to me that the actual desire is for the absurd elements to remain an integral part of the story because the world is absurd and growing more so with each passing year. Much of the absurdity also stems from the crushing boredom of 400 million largely unemployed citizens looking for something new to distract and engage them. When those absurdities turn out to be dangerous, the judges have to deal with them. Those absurdities aren't just light-hearted comedic high-jinx, they're serious comments on real-world absurdities and vital - vital, I say - to Dredd's world.

Yep. So much is made of the 'Dredd as hero' versus 'Dredd as villian' tropes, but of course there's a less mentioned third one, and by far and away my favourite - 'Dredd as straight man'. Contrast that granite visage and total lack of patience or humour with the idiotic citizenry and you've a recipe for gold, every time!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 18 May, 2017, 09:26:35 pm
WACIST!

Dwoidist!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 18 May, 2017, 09:28:28 pm
Heavy Metal Kid 'Call-me-Burdis' goes on the rampage and stomps towards Pete Wells Block.

To be played Godzilla style by CF in a robot suit smashing the crap out of miniature buildings.

+++CALL-ME-BURDIS WILL NOT BEHAVE+++

Trapped in the 'Cellar Of Dredd' with only a 1995 movie action figure for company!

"It puts the lotion in the basket or it gets the hose again!!!!"   :o

Judge Dredd-themed bathroom products?  Never gonna happen...

(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/11374212_1609034392681194_849730705_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTA4NTQ3MDkxMjc3NjA1MzI2OQ%3D%3D.2)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 18 May, 2017, 09:34:04 pm

...'Dredd as straight man'. Contrast that granite visage and total lack of patience or humour with the idiotic citizenry and you've a recipe for gold, every time!


Hear, hear!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 18 May, 2017, 09:38:24 pm
IMHO I think Walter the Wobot presents an excellent opportunity to explore pathos in the series.  He doesn't have to be a one-dimensional Jar-Jar Binks comic relief job.

As a downtrodden droid, mistreated because of his speech impediment, he'd give a great opportunity to explore the relationship between citizens and their servile robots.

I don't recall Walter being mistreated due to his rhoticism.  Really the main person to mistreat Walter is Dredd, and that's just because the Judge finds the robot annoying.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 18 May, 2017, 09:54:14 pm
Walter might find himself mistweated due to being given fweedom after his wole in the Wobot Webellion. Considered to have "ideas above his station" by humans and wobots alike and unable to find any place to fit in - perhaps ultimately being employed as a Justice Department Auxiliary in a sector house canteen after being found living wough on the stweets because his pwogwamming won't allow him to claim welf because it means fewer cwedits will be available to spend on humans, which violates the Wules of Wobotics. I hated Walter in the comics but he has the potential to be a weally intewesting twagi-comic character...

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 18 May, 2017, 09:56:44 pm
"They sent a slamhound on Turner's trail in New Delhi, slotted it to his pheromones and the color of his hair." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNZPRsrwumQ)
Even creepier: their Happy Holidays horror show (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDZu04v7_hc).

Those robo-reindeer are looking rather like the headless horses from IDW JD...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 18 May, 2017, 10:28:56 pm
The most interesting Dredd's for me are the procedural episodes involving the resources of justice department and an investigating Dredd. These kind of storylines would also perhaps be the most accessible to a general audience.

Wobots, rampaging lawmasters, max normal, not the right way to go.

Pleased don't let this be "wacky" in any way. The tone should be serious with an undercurrent of nihilistic black humour.




But the show doesn't have to be wacky and silly if characters like Walter and Max are in it.   That's all part of the satire of the comic.   Max was a weird freak and quite amusing.

There's nothing wrong with a bit of wry humour and satire in the show (as long as it doesn't end up like that awful Superfiend cartoon or Jar Jar fuckin Binks of course).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: TordelBack on 18 May, 2017, 10:42:27 pm
If The Big Bang Theory is anything to go by, making fun of speech impediments and immigrant accents is the bleeding edge of contemporary wit.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: marko10174 on 18 May, 2017, 11:14:05 pm

 The "goofy" factor of Dredd's universe has been playing on my mind a lot as well. The movie presented itself as a dark, serious, brutal action flick. If the tv show is trying to appeal to that kind of audience, then I do wonder... how will characters like Otto Sump, the fatties, the simps, Walter the wobot, the kleggs, fare in that kind of medium? honestly, I can't even imagine fantastic characters like Mean machine, Chopper, Judge death, or PJ Maybe fitting in to Urban's Dredd's world very well either. I look at Dredd 2012 and think of stories like "America"  "Total war" or "the pitt"
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 18 May, 2017, 11:47:52 pm
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Even taking examples from the earliest stories – are the Aggro Dome, Smokatorium, The Taxidermist and even Get Ugly, not brilliantly absurd creations from the early days that can't work?

Certainly a story about human taxidermy could definitely work, because it wouldn't have to be zany. You could do it in a serious, dark and intelligent way, and in fact that is how it was done in the original comic story -- the Jacob Sardini stories only became comedies in the sequels. The original would adapt very well to the screen.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2017, 11:59:12 pm
Certainly a story about human taxidermy could definitely work, because it wouldn't have to be zany. You could do it in a serious, dark and intelligent way, and in fact that is how it was done in the original comic story -- the Jacob Sardini stories only became comedies in the sequels. The original would adapt very well to the screen.

And, like a lot of Dredd stories, the original Taxidermist story is also very funny.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: blackmocco on 19 May, 2017, 12:04:46 am
Animated, with Mick drawing every frame.

Oh yeah. Sign me up. Then kill me. Haha!

(Actually, I'm not really sure where that leaves us with the animated project. I'm assuming we're probably maybe going to put it out to pasture but not sure. Still think animation's the perfect medium for Dredd if done properly, but hey, I'm a bit biased...)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 19 May, 2017, 12:05:23 am
Joe Soap: yes it is funny, but in the right kind of way.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: jacob g on 19 May, 2017, 12:16:36 am
Sensitive Klegg or bust!

No, seriously, I kind of sad seeing some of the opinios how this new TV series should stay away from styrical and humorous parts of MC-1, like you somewhat ashamed of what made this character and world so great. Gritty good, funny bad.

I get, all this non-nonsense cop stuff worked in movie, but we can go beyond, achieve more and show people how complex and rich meg-one is as a creation. I hope producers use the best parts of 2012 movie, but I also hope they add much more.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 19 May, 2017, 12:21:43 am
Nobody is saying there shouldn't be satire.

I'm not against humour either, done in an adult fashion. But half the people on this thread seem to want a kids' show.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 May, 2017, 12:25:10 am
Joe Soap: yes it is funny, but in the right kind of way.


In a way that hasn't been done before with any other Dredd adaptations and which is the way, I believe, most comic fans would want – not the 'zany' approach which I think has been somewhat misconstrued.

I think the different perspectives approach to telling stories within Mega-City One can allow all those particular aspects of serio-comic Dredd to shine brighter than they've previously been allowed to come through. It can also be a way of telling older stories from a perspective that will seem new to more mature eyes.

Nobody is saying there shouldn't be satire.


There are some who don't care about that aspect and just want a hard R version of Dredd. Fans who only know the 2012 film won't be as familiar with those aspects and don't expect it.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 19 May, 2017, 01:29:27 am
Just wondering what the title sequence will be like. What music would be used, etc. Personally, I'd just have a camera follow Dredd as he cruises the streets of MC1 at night, like a chase camera, as he surveys the citizens, prostitutes, druggies et al. Each time he glances at one, cut to flashes of potential crimes they've committed. Not really showing his face or badge. We just know its him. The camera pans out, wide shot of Mega City 1 in all its glory. Title.

Music wise, I'd have the instrumental guitar bit playing from Moby's 'A New Dawn Fades' from Heat.
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Post by: ABCwarBOT on 19 May, 2017, 03:51:51 am
Nobody is saying there shouldn't be satire.

I'm not against humour either, done in an adult fashion. But half the people on this thread seem to want a kids' show.



In what way?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Smith on 19 May, 2017, 05:42:57 am
Thing is...Judge Dredd is everything,its a police procedural,horror,political satire,drama...Just not all of those at the same time.The series could have a similar system.You could have a horror episode,then a political episode,then a Chopper episode(just examples).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 19 May, 2017, 06:29:13 am
Thing is...Judge Dredd is everything,its a police procedural,horror,political satire,drama...Just not all of those at the same time.The series could have a similar system.You could have a horror episode,then a political episode,then a Chopper episode(just examples).

Very true. And I like X-Files as an example, there's a show that was at it's core is very serious, but they throw in some well done comedy episodes and humor along the way as well. The audience can be willing to go along for different things when done well.
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Post by: Richard on 19 May, 2017, 09:19:40 am
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In what way?
Well you're the one who wants Max and Walter.

I think Smith has the right idea.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 19 May, 2017, 01:54:14 pm
Karl Urban has had talks according to this speel.

http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/dredd/49331/judge-dredd-tv-series-karl-urban-has-had-talks
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: jacob g on 19 May, 2017, 02:14:40 pm
Thing is...Judge Dredd is everything,its a police procedural,horror,political satire,drama...Just not all of those at the same time.The series could have a similar system.You could have a horror episode,then a political episode,then a Chopper episode(just examples).

And that's what I'm hoping for.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 19 May, 2017, 03:37:05 pm
Karl Urban has had talks according to this speel.

http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/dredd/49331/judge-dredd-tv-series-karl-urban-has-had-talks

I think they're qouting from the Thrillcast
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dash Decent on 19 May, 2017, 04:00:36 pm
tension between street judges and SJS (I miss that!)

As usual Pete, your mouth is full of pasties right.  I hope they walk the line between the Judges being protectors and heroes but also fascists.  Get the audience on the Judge's side, then show that the Judges are sometimes the bogey man.  And if the Judges are the bogey men, the SJS are the bogey men to the bogey men.

 I can imagine having a repeated scene where we see darkness, followed by the sight of a room through the eyes of a man as he suddenly and blearily wakes up.  The first time around it's a criminal waking up as the Judges bust in.  The second time around it's the Judges busting in again, but confounding viewer expectations it turns out to be a crime blitz, giving that hint of the extreme power of the Judges.  The third time around it's the SJS grabbing a Judge. No one is safe, this can happen to anyone.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 19 May, 2017, 04:28:16 pm
Get the audience on the Judge's side, then show that the Judges are sometimes the bogey man.  And if the Judges are the bogey men, the SJS are the bogey men to the bogey men.


Anyone remember this other Wagner / Grant TV adaptaion?  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395113/
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 19 May, 2017, 09:25:11 pm
Certainly a story about human taxidermy could definitely work, because it wouldn't have to be zany. You could do it in a serious, dark and intelligent way, and in fact that is how it was done in the original comic story -- the Jacob Sardini stories only became comedies in the sequels. The original would adapt very well to the screen.

It would but part of its appeal would be lost were 'The Taxidermist' to be adapted early on. The problem is the dignified Jacob Sardini gets away with it, something I can't recall anyone else doing in the ten years 2000 AD had been going by then. Being faithful to that so soon into a TV series would undermine the Judges all-pervasive authoritarianism and rob the story of its quiet power (and some of its humour), whereas changing the ending would make Sardini just another victim of the City.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 19 May, 2017, 10:28:08 pm
It would but part of its appeal would be lost were 'The Taxidermist' to be adapted early on. The problem is the dignified Jacob Sardini gets away with it, something I can't recall anyone else doing in the ten years 2000 AD had been going by then. Being faithful to that so soon into a TV series would undermine the Judges all-pervasive authoritarianism and rob the story of its quiet power (and some of its humour), whereas changing the ending would make Sardini just another victim of the City.

You've got me wondering about other characters who got away with it.  Arguments could be made for Satanus, Stan Lee, PJ Maybe...  Though of those, only Satanus completely escapes the law.
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Post by: TordelBack on 19 May, 2017, 10:34:31 pm
You've got me wondering about other characters who got away with it.

PJ spent two stints in pokey, lost his inheritance, lost his lover, lost his mayoral position and was (it appears) executed.  He may have got away with individual crimes, but he certainly didn't escape justice.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 19 May, 2017, 10:44:40 pm
You've got me wondering about other characters who got away with it.

PJ spent two stints in pokey, lost his inheritance, lost his lover, lost his mayoral position and was (it appears) executed.  He may have got away with individual crimes, but he certainly didn't escape justice.

.....or did he .........😊
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 19 May, 2017, 10:52:34 pm
Let's not go there...!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 19 May, 2017, 11:41:35 pm
According to Urban's IMDB, he doesn't seem to be appearing in anything significant beyond Thor Ragnarok, and any work he has done post that has already been wrapped up. Now could be a great time to get him on board. Olivia Thirlby seems to also be in a similar position. Her last film was a TV gig, so...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 19 May, 2017, 11:45:19 pm
You've got me wondering about other characters who got away with it.  Arguments could be made for Satanus, Stan Lee, PJ Maybe...  Though of those, only Satanus completely escapes the law.

I imagine a bull Tyrannosaur that's spent four decades in a radioactive desert prior to his encounter with Dredd probably wouldn't have any real comprehension of what a Judge is, less so recognize Dredd's assumed authority.

Stan Lee and PJ Maybe were both antagonists. They actively sought to defy the system whereas Sardini sought simply to save his neck from a lose-lose situation he found himself in through no fault of his own.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 19 May, 2017, 11:51:00 pm
. . . Thirlby . . .

Tsk. When will people (Olivia included!) learn to spell her surname properly. It's Thrilby, Thargnabbit.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 20 May, 2017, 12:14:46 am
She was so great in Dredd, it's sad that she hasn't been seen in more. A real shame.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 20 May, 2017, 04:26:26 am
Don't know about anyone else but I'd like to see a future London Mega City in this sometimes too.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Smith on 20 May, 2017, 05:28:12 am
I dont think Satanus got away.JD followed him onto hell(or anti-matter dimension or whatever) and made him eat his own heart.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 20 May, 2017, 08:36:01 am
It would but part of its appeal would be lost were 'The Taxidermist' to be adapted early on. The problem is the dignified Jacob Sardini gets away with it, something I can't recall anyone else doing in the ten years 2000 AD had been going by then. Being faithful to that so soon into a TV series would undermine the Judges all-pervasive authoritarianism and rob the story of its quiet power (and some of its humour), whereas changing the ending would make Sardini just another victim of the City.

You've got me wondering about other characters who got away with it.  Arguments could be made for Satanus, Stan Lee, PJ Maybe...  Though of those, only Satanus completely escapes the law.

Did the guy from the story Poor Johnny (subtitled Nevermind on the Meg 2.77 cover) get away with it? He did a PJ Maybe style identity switch and got away with it at the end of the story. I do hope he got caught later though!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 20 May, 2017, 10:37:17 am
Don't know about anyone else but I'd like to see a future London Mega City in this sometimes too.

Brit-Cit has been mentioned already!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 20 May, 2017, 03:47:09 pm
The perp in Poor Johnny got away with it! We haven't seen him since.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 20 May, 2017, 09:15:17 pm
Just re-read The Hunters Club in Case File 8, and thought it would make a great episode of the TV series, if they decide to adapt any of the comic stories.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 20 May, 2017, 11:14:41 pm
Don't know about anyone else but I'd like to see a future London Mega City in this sometimes too.

Brit-Cit has been mentioned already!


Good.   I think it would be a nice touch seeing as the show might be made here and it's a British comic anyway.   In fact I think it's a must and it could still involve Dredd himself.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Smith on 21 May, 2017, 05:47:04 am
Did we fancast Armitage already?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 21 May, 2017, 11:25:35 am
Did we fancast Armitage already?

Too late to get John Thaw in :(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 21 May, 2017, 11:55:59 am
Ray Winstone.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: NapalmKev on 21 May, 2017, 12:18:55 pm
Did we fancast Armitage already?

Dick Van Dyke does a good cockney accent... allegedly!

Cheers
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: A.Cow on 21 May, 2017, 08:18:59 pm
Did we fancast Armitage already?

Never mind that -- the most important one is...

HERSHEY!?!?!?

We need someone who can do stern & non-nonsense and is within budgetary reality.

I propose Rose Byrne.  She's got the look and (from clips I've seen) seems to have the acting chops (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8kAcy65QW8) to cover a range of storylines.

        (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/3e/db/1f/3edb1f9c067c7911a8e9667d285e3768.jpg)
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Post by: Smith on 21 May, 2017, 08:30:32 pm
Gina Carano?
(http://www.screengeek.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/2.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mister Pops on 21 May, 2017, 09:22:00 pm
Helen Mirren for Mcgruder. Get her a prosthetic beard, she'd still be dead sexy
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 21 May, 2017, 10:43:07 pm
McGruder: Michelle Fairley (Game of Thrones; 24)
(http://)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Proudhuff on 22 May, 2017, 11:55:33 am
Did we fancast Armitage already?

I'll do it!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: A.Cow on 22 May, 2017, 12:41:36 pm
Did we fancast Armitage already?
I'll do it!

I thought you'd already been cast as Fergee?  You can't do both.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 23 May, 2017, 09:07:04 pm
I just had the weirdest thought.

Sylvester Stallone as Judge Minty...?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 23 May, 2017, 11:59:58 pm
Definitely not.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 24 May, 2017, 06:42:56 am
Quote from: Richard
link=topic=44437.msg957973#msg957973
date=1495580398
Definitely not.

Why not? Apart from the obvious bars of his sixteen and a half trillion dollars an hour fee and possible aversion to stooping to doing telly, as a fantasy casting I think it would work.

He's old now and so would fit as an ageing judge at the end of his usefulness to the department and he can act when he wants to. Dropped into a single episode with, say, the counterpoint storyline of a cadet on final assessment, he might just have 15-20 minutes' worth of screen time, ending with him taking the Long Walk. His name would attract viewers and if he does well he'll redeem himself with the fans who hated his Judge Dredd.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 24 May, 2017, 07:14:43 am
I love sly, despite the 1995 film (which I can take as a mid 90's action film if not a dredd film). The problem with him appearing would be people's apparent dislike of the 95 film, which could lead to loss of viewers on any future sly related dredd appearances.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: James Stacey on 24 May, 2017, 08:56:46 am
Ha I think thats a pretty cool idea. It's not like he hasn't done adverts in the not too distant past. Hes not exactly an A lister any more.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 24 May, 2017, 09:34:29 am
I just had the weirdest thought.

Sylvester Stallone as Judge Minty...?

I would suggest that Stallone's negative association with the properity means emphatically no.

I like a lot of Stallone movies, but personally, I wouldn't want him anywhere near a Judge Dredd production-he had his chance in '95 and blew it!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Bolt-01 on 24 May, 2017, 09:45:09 am
Actually- I could see that working.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ZenArcade on 24 May, 2017, 09:50:22 am
Ditto!  Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Smith on 24 May, 2017, 09:59:57 am
Im thinking;we need Judge Manners as a recurring character.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 24 May, 2017, 10:26:30 am
I just had the weirdest thought.

Sylvester Stallone as Judge Minty...?

I would suggest that Stallone's negative association with the properity means emphatically no.

I like a lot of Stallone movies, but personally, I wouldn't want him anywhere near a Judge Dredd production-he had his chance in '95 and blew it!

Yep - Judge Dredd 1995 almost killed 2000AD and put the kibosh on any further screen appearances for 17 years.  If it wasn't for Dredd 2012 we wouldn't be talking on this thread now.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Proudhuff on 24 May, 2017, 11:51:36 am
Did we fancast Armitage already?
I'll do it!

I thought you'd already been cast as Fergee?  You can't do both.

Why you young whippersnapper!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 24 May, 2017, 12:01:37 pm
He meant Conrad Conn, Proudhuff.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 24 May, 2017, 01:04:36 pm
Neck-and-neck with the Strontium Dog fan film thread (http://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=41147) :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 May, 2017, 09:31:41 pm
Yep - Judge Dredd 1995 almost killed 2000AD

It was more IPC/Egmont who almost did that by spending money on a revamp and putting the price up by 25%. The film actually brought in some interest and boosted sales for a few months before it fell back to normal. Lawman of the Future sold well too – 1st issue shifted 80,000 copies- before it, like the film, ran out of steam.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 May, 2017, 09:41:06 pm
I just had the weirdest thought.

Sylvester Stallone as Judge Minty...?

I would suggest that Stallone's negative association with the properity means emphatically no.

I like a lot of Stallone movies, but personally, I wouldn't want him anywhere near a Judge Dredd production-he had his chance in '95 and blew it!

I love sly, despite the 1995 film (which I can take as a mid 90's action film if not a dredd film). The problem with him appearing would be people's apparent dislike of the 95 film, which could lead to loss of viewers on any future sly related dredd appearances.



You're all missing a golden opportunity – Stallone would make an ideal Fergee.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 25 May, 2017, 06:41:22 am
Hur, hur, hur!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 27 May, 2017, 01:30:31 am
Maybe Sly's codpiece could have a cameo?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 27 May, 2017, 02:15:22 am
A talking codpiece with a slanted lip.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 27 May, 2017, 11:22:31 am
There has to be a band named Chief Judge Fargo's Bogie as well...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: GrudgeJohnDeed on 30 May, 2017, 04:03:00 pm
So excited for this! I hope they don't hold back on the extremes of Dredd's world. An opinion formed as a kid that I still have is that megacity one is simultaneously the scariest, cruelest, grimmest place but also exciting, salacious and even fun! Hoping for an 18 cert then!

I wonder what channel/service it'll be on, seems like its going ahead regardless?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 30 May, 2017, 04:24:24 pm
I wonder what channel/service it'll be on, seems like its going ahead regardless?

I sincerely doubt that they're going to make a dozen multi-million dollar episodes before they have a confirmed deal on who will be showing it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 30 May, 2017, 04:36:37 pm
Selfishly. I'm hoping Netflix as it's the only streaming site I subscribe to and I don't really fancy shelling out for another, unless I really have to!

What streaming sites do distributers IM Global have past experience with?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: GrudgeJohnDeed on 30 May, 2017, 04:39:05 pm
yeah I thought that too Jim, it reminded me of a bit on the darkplace dvd extras hehe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr6ufGzlcwk&t=160

but it just seems really strange they haven't said which service it'll be aired on, that the carrier themselves aren't talking about it

I hope Netflix too, its a good fit but I wonder if thatd be a problem for marvel.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 30 May, 2017, 05:59:12 pm
I heard on Midnights Edge broadcast that he thought that the ScyFy channel might be interested as they wanted to upgrade their current crop of TV Progs away from the Sharknado tat. I guess if you're looking for something that is a little more sophisticated that might appeal to Adults Dredd might fit the bill but that's just his opinion nothing else.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: von Boom on 30 May, 2017, 06:44:42 pm
I think SyFy should be the last place for JD:MC1. While it's a good idea for Siffee (my pronunciation) to try and improve, I don't think Rebellion should risk something as valuable as MC1 in Siffee's attempts to recapture their market.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 30 May, 2017, 06:54:37 pm
I think SyFy should be the last place for JD:MC1. While it's a good idea for Siffee (my pronunciation) to try and improve, I don't think Rebellion should risk something as valuable as MC1 in Siffee's attempts to recapture their market.

Recently, SyFy have had Killjoys (stupid, but fun), Dark Matter (really quite good), 12 Monkeys (again, really quite good) and The Expanse (straight-up excellent).

Whilst I agree that if the MC1 producers could land a bigger channel/platform, they absolutely should, SyFy have been making some significant headway in improving their line-up.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: von Boom on 30 May, 2017, 07:20:12 pm
I think SyFy should be the last place for JD:MC1. While it's a good idea for Siffee (my pronunciation) to try and improve, I don't think Rebellion should risk something as valuable as MC1 in Siffee's attempts to recapture their market.

Recently, SyFy have had Killjoys (stupid, but fun), Dark Matter (really quite good), 12 Monkeys (again, really quite good) and The Expanse (straight-up excellent).

Whilst I agree that if the MC1 producers could land a bigger channel/platform, they absolutely should, SyFy have been making some significant headway in improving their line-up.

I've not seen any of those, but I've be prejudiced against SyFy for quite some time now. I don't think I'll ever watch The Expanse though after trying to read the first book. I'm part of the minority that found it too awful to finish.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 30 May, 2017, 07:41:00 pm
I've not seen any of those, but I've be prejudiced against SyFy for quite some time now. I don't think I'll ever watch The Expanse though after trying to read the first book. I'm part of the minority that found it too awful to finish.

I've heard that the books are pretty turgid, so I haven't attempted them. You don't have to have read them to enjoy the series which, again, is excellent.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: TordelBack on 30 May, 2017, 08:11:30 pm
Maybe Sly's codpiece could have a cameo?

Or vice versa.

(http://wavenewspapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Cameo-Tasty-West.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Tony Angelino on 30 May, 2017, 08:46:08 pm
Brilliant.

The perfect storm of someone innocently mentioning the words cameo and codpiece in the same sentence.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Fungus on 30 May, 2017, 09:52:28 pm
I assumed that was the pun...  ::)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Tony Angelino on 30 May, 2017, 09:54:33 pm
Never assume anything. That's one thing I've learned.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Bluearmada on 01 June, 2017, 07:21:12 pm
Hopefully this will happen. The last Dredd film was fantastic and deserved a sequel. I'm sure someone's said this before me, but let's have a 2000ad cinematic/tv universe. There's such a wealth of material to draw from and if done correctly could put Marvel to shame!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 13 June, 2017, 03:40:31 am
Maybe Sly's codpiece could have a cameo?

Or vice versa.

(http://wavenewspapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Cameo-Tasty-West.jpg)




Lol!   Who on earth are those guys?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 June, 2017, 04:21:06 am
Who on earth are those guys?

Cameo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZjAantupsA)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 June, 2017, 08:36:06 am
Who on earth are those guys?

Cameo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZjAantupsA)

Word up!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 13 June, 2017, 01:08:59 pm
Don't remember the guy in the kilt.  Looks like many a person at a Goth club!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mardroid on 13 June, 2017, 06:20:52 pm
Anyone recognise a young Levar Burton in that video? (Guy in the hat.  :lol: )

I've heard that song a few times, but this is the first time I've seen the video.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 13 June, 2017, 09:00:07 pm
Anyone recognise a young Levar Burton in that video? (Guy in the hat.  :lol: )

I've heard that song a few times, but this is the first time I've seen the video.

Love the song but the Gun version is awesome.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 14 June, 2017, 02:28:13 pm
Subject of possible actors for Dredd.

Just came across this pic of Josh Brolin training to play Cable in Deadpool 2. That chin and face suggests he should be auditioning for another comic book related role.

(http://cdn2-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2017/06/brolincablearms.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 14 June, 2017, 04:47:56 pm
He's already booked...

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p147/the_legendary_shark/Brolin_Rogue_zpsgaaiucfu.png)

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 14 June, 2017, 04:53:21 pm
Subject of possible actors for Dredd.

Just came across this pic of Josh Brolin training to play Cable in Deadpool 2. That chin and face suggests he should be auditioning for another comic book related role.

(http://cdn2-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2017/06/brolincablearms.jpg)

I can see him as Nelson Kreelman, Johnny Alpha's father.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 14 June, 2017, 07:19:27 pm
Subject of possible actors for Dredd.

Just came across this pic of Josh Brolin training to play Cable in Deadpool 2. That chin and face suggests he should be auditioning for another comic book related role.

(http://cdn2-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2017/06/brolincablearms.jpg)

I can see him as Nelson Kreelman, Johnny Alpha's father.
What about now?

(http://i.imgur.com/2RuNaaE.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 17 June, 2017, 12:47:09 am
Who on earth are those guys?

Cameo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZjAantupsA)


Can't believe I've never seen those guys before. :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: A.Cow on 17 June, 2017, 01:12:22 am
Who on earth are those guys?
Cameo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZjAantupsA)
Can't believe I've never seen those guys before. :)

That's because of the Cameo-flage....

I'll get m' coat.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Robin Low on 17 June, 2017, 08:51:56 am
Can't believe I've never seen those guys before. :)

For some of us of a certain age, this particular Top of the Pops performance is carved onto our souls:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itTuhQhLFqk

Regards,

Robin
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: CalHab on 18 June, 2017, 08:18:33 am
They were also the inspiration for Zombo's pants.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: von Boom on 19 June, 2017, 05:33:20 pm
Sound like they're headed in the right direction.

http://www.gamesradar.com/dredd-boss-says-the-tv-show-will-combine-the-macabre-with-the-insane-and-the-light-hearted/ (http://www.gamesradar.com/dredd-boss-says-the-tv-show-will-combine-the-macabre-with-the-insane-and-the-light-hearted/)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 21 June, 2017, 02:55:06 am
Can't believe I've never seen those guys before. :)

For some of us of a certain age, this particular Top of the Pops performance is carved onto our souls:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itTuhQhLFqk

Regards,

Robin



Jesus H.   Maybe it's just as well I never saw that as I would have had nightmares. :o 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 22 June, 2017, 03:11:44 am
Sound like they're headed in the right direction.

http://www.gamesradar.com/dredd-boss-says-the-tv-show-will-combine-the-macabre-with-the-insane-and-the-light-hearted/ (http://www.gamesradar.com/dredd-boss-says-the-tv-show-will-combine-the-macabre-with-the-insane-and-the-light-hearted/)


Sounds promising.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Michael Knight on 22 June, 2017, 07:20:01 pm
Had a few colleagues tell me about this series in the last week. Hardly any of them into 2000ad/Dredd (although believe me Tharg I'm working on it!).

Anyway I'm just so surprised at their enthusiasm for this, although its truly fantastic to see. I'm just hoping and praying this is marketed right with 'JUDGE DREDD' title having loud and proud top billing, unlike last movie advertising if you catch my drift.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 22 June, 2017, 09:51:14 pm
Subject of possible actors for Dredd.

Just came across this pic of Josh Brolin training to play Cable in Deadpool 2. That chin and face suggests he should be auditioning for another comic book related role.

(http://cdn2-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2017/06/brolincablearms.jpg)

I can see him as Nelson Kreelman, Johnny Alpha's father.
What about now?

(http://i.imgur.com/2RuNaaE.jpg)





They both look constipated.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mister Pops on 22 June, 2017, 10:04:50 pm
Naw, tight boots
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 23 June, 2017, 03:45:18 am
Naw, tight boots


Could be. :)  Or a combination of both?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 23 June, 2017, 08:46:25 pm
On a serious point though.   It might work in the comics but I thought Urban's grimace did look a bit forced at times so I hope they tone the grimace down slightly.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 24 June, 2017, 12:57:30 am
On a serious point though.   It might work in the comics but I thought Urban's grimace did look a bit forced at times so I hope they tone the grimace down slightly.

Sacrilege!!!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 24 June, 2017, 02:13:50 pm
On a serious point though.   It might work in the comics but I thought Urban's grimace did look a bit forced at times so I hope they tone the grimace down slightly.

Sacrilege!!!


 :)
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/image_64.jpeg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/image_64.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 24 June, 2017, 07:16:16 pm
 :o

Karl's performance was flawless!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 24 June, 2017, 08:09:36 pm
Karl's performance was flawless!

Even though it took me a couple of viewings to truly warm to DREDD, Karl's performance was the one thing I absolutely did love when I first saw it. Any issues I had with his portrayal were in the writing (I seem to recall there being two scenes I grumbled at but can only remember the headbutt being particularly contentious).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 24 June, 2017, 10:38:17 pm

Even though it took me a couple of viewings to truly warm to DREDD, Karl's performance was the one thing I absolutely did love when I first saw it. Any issues I had with his portrayal were in the writing (I seem to recall there being two scenes I grumbled at but can only remember the headbutt being particularly contentious).

I dislike the final forced Slo-Mo dose. It seems unnecessarily sadistic. It strikes me that it would have worked better if Ma-Ma had defiantly dosed herself -- confronted with her imminent death, she chose to extend her final moments as a means postponing death, if only for a few perceptually-stretched seconds. The same cinematic effect could have been achieved in a way that made sense for her character and didn't introduce a forced character-beat to Dredd.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 25 June, 2017, 07:25:44 am
I'm minded to agree with Jim on Dredd's force-feeding of slo-mo to Ma Ma. He'd just execute her, no frills or faffing about.

The other Dredd point I didn't like was stunning the juve - he'd have shot the kid's hand off. Again, no frills or faffing about.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 25 June, 2017, 08:49:45 am
Wasn't there a view that it was done to slow her heart beat o the pulse thingies kept going and she didn't blow everything up? Having watched it again the other day there's little to support that reading but I've heard it said (typed) here. Not sure what was included in the script...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 25 June, 2017, 10:43:50 am
Wasn't there a view that it was done to slow her heart beat o the pulse thingies kept going and she didn't blow everything up? Having watched it again the other day there's little to support that reading but I've heard it said (typed) here. Not sure what was included in the script...

That's my understanding; to keep her alive until she hits the bottom.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 25 June, 2017, 11:03:23 am
Hmm, interesting point but would it really make a difference? The fall wouldn't last very long in real time, whether she was slo-moed or not, so even if she had a fear-induced heart attack half way down (surely more likely on slo-mo anyway with the effect of the drug on the body coupled with more time (subjectively) to fall into a heart-stopping terror) her transmitter wouldn't send its signal until she was very close to the splatterpoint anyway...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: NapalmKev on 25 June, 2017, 12:38:55 pm
I thought it was mentioned in the film that the signal wouldn't pass all the way to the top* because of the amount of floors blocking the signal.

Cheers

*even though there is a massive gap leading all the way to the top of the tower. I may be misremembering.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 25 June, 2017, 01:04:22 pm
S'right.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 26 June, 2017, 01:13:59 pm
I thought it was mentioned in the film that the signal wouldn't pass all the way to the top* because of the amount of floors blocking the signal.

Cheers

*even though there is a massive gap leading all the way to the top of the tower. I may be misremembering.

I thought it was simply the distance between the bottom of the central shaft and the top, not anything blocking the signal.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 June, 2017, 05:26:14 pm


"think that signal can get through 200 floors of concrete? let's find out".

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 28 June, 2017, 02:11:14 am
Also consider that Dredd didn't really force MaMa to inhale the drug. He asks her "How do you plead?" and then she inhales it purposefully knowing that Dredd was about to execute her regardless. "Defense noted." Inhaling the Slo-mo would also prevent MaMa from removing the bracelet from her arm on the way down to trigger the bombs. By the time she thought of that, she'd have splatted already.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 28 June, 2017, 07:41:44 am
Wouldn't the slo-mo give her more subjective time to think of pulling the transmitter off?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steven Denton on 28 June, 2017, 11:00:45 am
I've never understood how throwing Mama out the window helps. if her pulse stops (either via death or dead signal) surely the bomb goes off? if not Dredd could just walk her out the door.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 28 June, 2017, 11:25:54 am
I've never understood how throwing Mama out the window helps. if her pulse stops (either via death or dead signal) surely the bomb goes off? if not Dredd could just walk her out the door.

It's an active trigger, i.e.: the bomb goes off when it gets a definite signal that she's dead, not a passive one that goes off when it stops getting a continuous signal that she's alive.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steven Denton on 28 June, 2017, 11:36:38 am
I've never understood how throwing Mama out the window helps. if her pulse stops (either via death or dead signal) surely the bomb goes off? if not Dredd could just walk her out the door.

It's an active trigger, i.e.: the bomb goes off when it gets a definite signal that she's dead, not a passive one that goes off when it stops getting a continuous signal that she's alive.

So he could just walk her out. seems like a poor choice of trigger.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 28 June, 2017, 11:56:35 am
seems like a poor choice of trigger.

Except that the passive trigger would detonate the bomb if the signal device got damaged, if she took it off, or if she walked into a room that interfered with radio signals.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steven Denton on 28 June, 2017, 12:07:19 pm
seems like a poor choice of trigger.

Except that the passive trigger would detonate the bomb if the signal device got damaged, if she took it off, or if she walked into a room that interfered with radio signals.

I thought that was the idea (except the interference, that's a risk but the plan is a last ditched high risk one) Dredd can't shoot it off and destroy it because that would cut the signal off and detonate the bomb, he can't take it off her by force because it would detonate the bomb and he can't remove her from the room because that would detonate the bomb.

It's either useless because she can just be removed from the room and killed out of signal range (as violently happened seconds after she reveals her device), or risky because it will detonate if it's Wi-Fi drops out.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 28 June, 2017, 12:23:08 pm
She has to die for her crimes to send a message to the rest of the block but she must also die out of range of the transmitter, so throwing her to the atrium kills two birds with one stone.

The bit that doesn't really fit, as Jim says, is giving her slo-mo as well (which may even be a crime - giving someone an illegal drug).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 28 June, 2017, 01:38:40 pm
She has to die for her crimes to send a message to the rest of the block but she must also die out of range of the transmitter, so throwing her to the atrium kills two birds with one stone.

The bit that doesn't really fit, as Jim says, is giving her slo-mo as well (which may even be a crime - giving someone an illegal drug).

That's how I always saw it - she was sentenced to death anyway; no matter how or where it was going to happen.  The Judges of the movie MC1 are a little bit more liberal, for want of a better word, with dealing out executions and torture than the Judges we grew up with.  The forced slo-mo inhalation does seem excessively vindictive, true, but this Dredd isn't quite the Dredd of the comics.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 29 June, 2017, 02:07:39 am
I'm an impatient git.  I wanna see some concept art.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 29 June, 2017, 02:50:09 pm
I'm an impatient git.  I wanna see some concept art.

Then reading 2000AD.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 29 June, 2017, 09:33:07 pm
I'm an impatient git.  I wanna see some concept art.

Then reading 2000AD.



Funnily enough I just picked up the latest issue but haven't looked at it yet.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Tjm86 on 30 June, 2017, 06:59:39 am
Funnily enough I just picked up the latest issue but haven't looked at it yet.   

You sure it was 2000ad you picked up then?   ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Smith on 30 June, 2017, 09:07:45 am
Prog,never an issue.Tharg scoffs at such earthly terms.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 01 July, 2017, 12:57:17 am
Funnily enough I just picked up the latest issue but haven't looked at it yet.   

You sure it was 2000ad you picked up then?   ;)



Damn!   I knew I should have looked closer when I picked it up,   It says Caravaning Monthly on the cover not 2000AD.  :o 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: A.Cow on 01 July, 2017, 08:15:39 am
Damn!   I knew I should have looked closer when I picked it up,   It says Caravaning Monthly on the cover not 2000AD.  :o

It's an easy mistake to make.  They both look very similar.

(https://image.ibb.co/jnTDA5/Prog.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 01 July, 2017, 07:09:56 pm
Damn!   I knew I should have looked closer when I picked it up,   It says Caravaning Monthly on the cover not 2000AD.  :o

It's an easy mistake to make.  They both look very similar.

(https://image.ibb.co/jnTDA5/Prog.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

That's the best thing I've seen all day.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 02 July, 2017, 03:26:26 am
Lol!   Brilliant stuff! :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 10 July, 2017, 02:58:36 pm
Pt 1 of a new interview with Brian and Jason about the series.

https://youtu.be/RhfLiJ2eAa8?t=764 (https://youtu.be/RhfLiJ2eAa8?t=764)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mardroid on 10 July, 2017, 03:16:49 pm
Thanks for posting Steve!

While I'm glad that the city will be the main character, and it won't be just about Dredd, I was a bit worried he would be mostly sidelined, with just a couple of appearances here and there.

That interview is promising, though, suggesting they'll have a good balance.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Spaceghost on 11 July, 2017, 08:35:53 am
Thanks for posting Steve!

While I'm glad that the city will be the main character, and it won't be just about Dredd, I was a bit worried he would be mostly sidelined, with just a couple of appearances here and there.

That interview is promising, though, suggesting they'll have a good balance.

I was concerned about this too, until it occurred to me that a lot of my favourite Dredd stories hardly feature the man himself.

The old 80s formula of following a crazy cit going about their ill fated business with Dredd showing up when it's all gone tits up to cube everyone could work on TV. Almost like an anthology format of future wackiness. With added long form plot strings woven in throughout of course.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 11 July, 2017, 09:59:51 am
Yeah there are plenty like that.

I'm curious as to whether (and how) they'd handle the clone side of things.

Would having a younger version of Dredd in the form of Rico MK2 just crowd things?

I really loved the Sector House story with the new recruit coming in and getting people's backs up.

It would be cool to see a Minty type story, not necessarily Minty/Dredd but an older mentor judge going soft and the new one coming in and basically bringing about his downfall, and the fallout from that.

We've had similar to that in later strips.


I'd love to see an H-wagon down episode - important perp, shot down and crashed in hostile territory, the outside world viewed through vid screens. Something claustrophobic. Shanty Town meets Assault on Precinct 13.

Also the sort of set that could be re-used.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 11 July, 2017, 10:03:35 am
Maybe clones, like twins, don't have to be identical...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 11 July, 2017, 10:09:55 am
I noo you'd say that.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 11 July, 2017, 10:23:39 am
Oh, ho? Now, give us a kiss...

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 11 July, 2017, 10:27:48 am
*rides off into sunset smiling*
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 11 July, 2017, 10:49:30 am
*cheers with the rest of them*

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: DaveGYNWA on 11 July, 2017, 12:32:31 pm
*stands up in cinema and exclaims "That was a load of f***ing sh**e!!"*

Sorry....flashbacks.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 11 July, 2017, 12:43:23 pm
Quote
Would having a younger version of Dredd in the form of Rico MK2 just crowd things?

Yes it would. There's no need for it, and you can still have a Sector House-style story about an annoying young rookie who isn't related to Dredd.

I think it's absolutely fine to have some episodes where Dredd is only in one or two scenes. It gives supporting characters a chance to shine. Not every Star Trek:Next Gen story was about Picard and not every Buffy was about Buffy.

Adding to the list of things I'd like to see: bite fights!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 11 July, 2017, 09:49:23 pm
With that latest interview I think we've got just enough material to do a proper Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dredd:_Mega-City_One)...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JLC on 11 July, 2017, 10:02:23 pm
Focusing on cadets would be a good way for viewers new to the world of Mega City 1
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 11 July, 2017, 10:05:23 pm
I don't agree with that; cadets are cooped up in the Academy most of the time. Focusing on the citizens would be the best way of showing us the city.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 11 July, 2017, 10:30:23 pm
I don't agree with that; cadets are cooped up in the Academy most of the time. Focusing on the citizens would be the best way of showing us the city.
I've always got Gotham (the TV series) in my head - based around the precinct, but we get to see the underworld, plus Bruce and Selina's lives.  Rather than full-on Academy, perhaps there could be final year cadets assigned to a Sector House, doing assignments, going on hot dog runs, etc? 

Though saying that, I don't like the Cursed Earth appearing too early in works based on JD - witness the 1995 film and IDW's forays.  It's basically taking one of the best characters (MC1) and ditching it for half an hour.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JLC on 11 July, 2017, 10:34:05 pm
I don't agree with that; cadets are cooped up in the Academy most of the time. Focusing on the citizens would be the best way of showing us the city.
I've always got Gotham (the TV series) in my head - based around the precinct, but we get to see the underworld, plus Bruce and Selina's lives.  Rather than full-on Academy, perhaps there could be final year cadets assigned to a Sector House, doing assignments, going on hot dog runs, etc? 

Though saying that, I don't like the Cursed Earth appearing too early in works based on JD - witness the 1995 film and IDW's forays.  It's basically taking one of the best characters (MC1) and ditching it for half an hour.
Yes, that's what I meant (& should have said). Cadets fresh out of the academy on their first assignment.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 11 July, 2017, 10:34:52 pm
Ok, but then why not just have regular judges doing all of that?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 11 July, 2017, 10:52:16 pm
I don't agree with that; cadets are cooped up in the Academy most of the time. Focusing on the citizens would be the best way of showing us the city.
I've always got Gotham (the TV series) in my head - based around the precinct, but we get to see the underworld, plus Bruce and Selina's lives.  Rather than full-on Academy, perhaps there could be final year cadets assigned to a Sector House, doing assignments, going on hot dog runs, etc? 

Though saying that, I don't like the Cursed Earth appearing too early in works based on JD - witness the 1995 film and IDW's forays.  It's basically taking one of the best characters (MC1) and ditching it for half an hour.
Yes, that's what I meant (& should have said). Cadets fresh out of the academy on their first assignment.

There's certainly scope - not too sure about what the canon says about newly-graduated cadets (I suspect little or nothing), but it would make sense for there to be some sort of probation period until they get in to the swing of things.  Having said that, I think the end of The Academy of Law (the story which introduced Judge Giant Senior) had the words "see you on the streets", suggesting the moment your graduate you're treated exactly like any other street judge.  Kraken's post-injection depiction was along the same lines (though obviously they had to pretend he was Dredd).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 11 July, 2017, 10:55:29 pm
Ok, but then why not just have regular judges doing all of that?
Because it's easier to introduce viewers to a series if the protagonist(s) are also knew to the area portrayed - which is why Jim Gordon transfers to the precinct in Gotham, why Alex Murphy does the same in RoboCop, (partially) why Lawson transfers to Badrock in Lawless, why King Monkey goes off to heaven, and any number of other examples from books, film, comics and television.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 11 July, 2017, 11:12:43 pm
Ok that makes sense, but it might make people think it's just a retread of the 2012 film plot, which (as you know) was about a rookie judge.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 12 July, 2017, 06:57:17 am
Or . . . they could introduce the Big Meg by way of a shopping trip. Thirteen episodes of it. To set up 'The Judge Child Quest' and 'The Apocalypse War' for Seasons Two and Three respectively (but remembering to go easy with the futuristic lingo by then).

Despite critical acclaim, there'll be no Season Four.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 12 July, 2017, 12:43:26 pm
They could always go the Colors (http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0094894/) route...

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 12 July, 2017, 04:07:33 pm
Part Two of the Mr H interview with Brian and Jason

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIF0J0waubA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIF0J0waubA)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Beeks on 12 July, 2017, 06:42:41 pm
Part Two of the Mr H interview with Brian and Jason

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIF0J0waubA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIF0J0waubA)

Genuinely excited now

Wonder who the character from the computer game is?

Nice to hear Urban is their first choice and that the Lawmaster is a priority!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 July, 2017, 07:03:48 pm
I could listen to Jason and Brian talking about the TV series all day-they make a great double act!  :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JLC on 12 July, 2017, 07:19:26 pm
Great interview. Really excited about this but also think Brian would be great as Fred Flinstone in a live action Flintstones tv show!  :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 13 July, 2017, 08:40:13 pm
Part Two of the Mr H interview with Brian and Jason

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIF0J0waubA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIF0J0waubA)

Genuinely excited now

Wonder who the character from the computer game is?

Nice to hear Urban is their first choice and that the Lawmaster is a priority!

Were there many characters in the computer game?  They said not the obvious one, so that rules out that they were talking about Dredd and Death.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 13 July, 2017, 09:05:56 pm
Dr Icarus?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 22 July, 2017, 06:27:31 pm
Spotted this on the news just now, it's part of a training centre for the fire service, but it's like having your own mini Pete Wells block in rural Gloucestershire...

http://www.fireservicecollege.ac.uk/facilities/incident-ground/commercial-building/ (http://www.fireservicecollege.ac.uk/facilities/incident-ground/commercial-building/)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 23 July, 2017, 03:32:09 am
Spotted this on the news just now, it's part of a training centre for the fire service, but it's like having your own mini Pete Wells block in rural Gloucestershire...

http://www.fireservicecollege.ac.uk/facilities/incident-ground/commercial-building/ (http://www.fireservicecollege.ac.uk/facilities/incident-ground/commercial-building/)

There's a similar training centre on the South bank of the Thames (can't remember precisely where it is, but probably out as far as Kent), used by the Met for urban exercises.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 23 July, 2017, 03:36:42 am
Spotted this on the news just now, it's part of a training centre for the fire service, but it's like having your own mini Pete Wells block in rural Gloucestershire...

http://www.fireservicecollege.ac.uk/facilities/incident-ground/commercial-building/ (http://www.fireservicecollege.ac.uk/facilities/incident-ground/commercial-building/)

There's a similar training centre on the South bank of the Thames (can't remember precisely where it is, but probably out as far as Kent), used by the Met for urban exercises.

Gravesend, Kent.  The top left corner of the estate (the bit that doesn't have car parks in it) has been used for riot training and the like.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3892/14287029607_dc3088784b_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 07 August, 2017, 09:08:59 pm
IM Global founder forced out.

He was also named as an exec producer on the Dredd show.

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/stuart-ford-im-global-1202517665/ (http://variety.com/2017/film/news/stuart-ford-im-global-1202517665/)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: DaveGYNWA on 07 August, 2017, 09:42:25 pm
Oooooooh I could crush a grape!!!

http://www.screengeek.net/2017/08/07/karl-urban-judge-dredd-mega-city-one-series/
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pete Wells on 07 August, 2017, 11:14:00 pm
Spotted this on the news just now, it's part of a training centre for the fire service, but it's like having your own mini Pete Wells block in rural Gloucestershire...

http://www.fireservicecollege.ac.uk/facilities/incident-ground/commercial-building/ (http://www.fireservicecollege.ac.uk/facilities/incident-ground/commercial-building/)

That's exactly what the Pete Wells Block toilets look like (and the penthouse suite.)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Frank on 08 August, 2017, 07:22:08 am
IM Global founder forced out.

He was also named as an exec producer on the Dredd show.

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/stuart-ford-im-global-1202517665/ (http://variety.com/2017/film/news/stuart-ford-im-global-1202517665/)

Bad news for all the outgoing CEO's pet projects.


Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: CalHab on 08 August, 2017, 09:36:06 am
Bad news for all the outgoing CEO's pet projects.

Quite. I believe the standard Hollywood tactic is to immediately cancel all your predecessors projects, since they'll get the credit if they are successes and you'll get the blame if they fail.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Tjm86 on 08 August, 2017, 03:40:43 pm
Good news for those who would like to see Urban back in the role if things pan out. (http://www.cbr.com/karl-urban-judge-dredd-tv-show/)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 08 August, 2017, 06:57:33 pm
That's a big if.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dreddzilla on 08 August, 2017, 07:24:34 pm
Bad news for all the outgoing CEO's pet projects.

Quite. I believe the standard Hollywood tactic is to immediately cancel all your predecessors projects, since they'll get the credit if they are successes and you'll get the blame if they fail.
So should we go ahead and and declare this show "Aborted" then?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 08 August, 2017, 07:59:17 pm
So should we go ahead and and declare this show "Aborted" then?

Or we could, y'know, wait for some actual news one way or the other?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JLC on 08 August, 2017, 08:40:20 pm
Bad news for all the outgoing CEO's pet projects.

Quite. I believe the standard Hollywood tactic is to immediately cancel all your predecessors projects, since they'll get the credit if they are successes and you'll get the blame if they fail.
So should we go ahead and and declare this show "Aborted" then?
Oh dear. Things not looking good now.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: SIP on 08 August, 2017, 08:57:23 pm
Ha ha, only on the Internet!

The world is ending! The world is ending!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: TordelBack on 08 August, 2017, 11:44:04 pm
The world is ending! The world is ending!

Mods: please move this to the Political Thread.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Tjm86 on 09 August, 2017, 09:51:20 am
So should we go ahead and and declare this show "Aborted" then?

Or we could, y'know, wait for some actual news one way or the other?

A calm, reasoned and rational response?  Oh look, a unicorn.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 09 August, 2017, 10:57:10 am
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/rob-friedman-oversee-im-global-open-road-films-as-ceo-tang-media-entertainment-1027671 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/rob-friedman-oversee-im-global-open-road-films-as-ceo-tang-media-entertainment-1027671)

Ex-Lionsgate, now CEO of newly formed Tang Media Partners which is overseeing IM Global's TV division amongst others.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JLC on 09 August, 2017, 06:09:28 pm
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/rob-friedman-oversee-im-global-open-road-films-as-ceo-tang-media-entertainment-1027671 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/rob-friedman-oversee-im-global-open-road-films-as-ceo-tang-media-entertainment-1027671)

Ex-Lionsgate, now CEO of newly formed Tang Media Partners which is overseeing IM Global's TV division amongst others.
Lionsgate distrbuted Dredd in North America.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 August, 2017, 11:26:34 am
Some Judge Dredd Concept art for the TV project here.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2017/08/11/judge-dredd-tv-show-exclusive-first-concept-art-images
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 11 August, 2017, 12:16:04 pm
Nice!

(http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2017/08/unnamed-11.jpg)

(http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2017/08/unnamed.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 11 August, 2017, 01:09:04 pm
Great images - the drip, drip, drip of information continues...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 11 August, 2017, 06:15:12 pm
Looks pretty much like the 2012 version, only more congested and built up like the comic. Perfect if you ask me. Still not sure about the flying cars, though. Now all we need are concepts of the Lawmaster and the uniform. 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JLC on 11 August, 2017, 06:18:21 pm
OK, it is just concept art but seems a bit too drab for me. I'd like a more vivid colourful vibrant MC1.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 11 August, 2017, 06:25:16 pm
OK, it is just concept art but seems a bit too drab for me. I'd like a more vivid colourful vibrant MC1.
Could be just the drab part of the city. One scene I loved in the recent film was when Dredd and Anderson were outside the building looking out of the city at night. It looked brilliant with all the neon contrasted against the night sky.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: 8-Ball on 11 August, 2017, 07:21:06 pm
OK, it is just concept art but seems a bit too drab for me. I'd like a more vivid colourful vibrant MC1.
Could be just the drab part of the city. One scene I loved in the recent film was when Dredd and Anderson were outside the building looking out of the city at night. It looked brilliant with all the neon contrasted against the night sky.
I hope so. This type of thing could be a deal-breaker for me. The version of MC-1 that I have in my head is straight from Colin MacNeil's art for America and Mechanismo. Chiefly crystal clear blue skies and blazing sunshine resulting from the machinations of Weather Control and a perfect example of the excessive reach of the Justice Department. I don't want MC-1 in this show to be yet another gloomy cookie-cutter dystopia. 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 11 August, 2017, 07:42:04 pm
What, even at night?

Honestly people are reading an awful lot into a couple of images.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 11 August, 2017, 07:51:04 pm
There will be all kinds of different areas in  MEGA City One because it's MEGA in size and MEGA in scope. The clue is in the name.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JLC on 11 August, 2017, 08:08:02 pm
OK, it is just concept art but seems a bit too drab for me. I'd like a more vivid colourful vibrant MC1.
Could be just the drab part of the city. One scene I loved in the recent film was when Dredd and Anderson were outside the building looking out of the city at night. It looked brilliant with all the neon contrasted against the night sky.
Yeah, a great scene.

OK, it is just concept art but seems a bit too drab for me. I'd like a more vivid colourful vibrant MC1.
Could be just the drab part of the city. One scene I loved in the recent film was when Dredd and Anderson were outside the building looking out of the city at night. It looked brilliant with all the neon contrasted against the night sky.
I hope so. This type of thing could be a deal-breaker for me. The version of MC-1 that I have in my head is straight from Colin MacNeil's art for America and Mechanismo. Chiefly crystal clear blue skies and blazing sunshine resulting from the machinations of Weather Control and a perfect example of the excessive reach of the Justice Department. I don't want MC-1 in this show to be yet another gloomy cookie-cutter dystopia.
Yes, there are too many of those.
What, even at night?

Honestly people are reading an awful lot into a couple of images.
Its concept art. Isn't the point of concept art for people to read into it how the show might look?!?

There will be all kinds of different areas in  MEGA City One because it's MEGA in size and MEGA in scope. The clue is in the name.
Yes I understand that, but thanks for letting me know, & putting the word MEGA in uppercase...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 11 August, 2017, 08:11:38 pm
You're WELCOME. :D

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 August, 2017, 08:20:09 pm
If these images were a song, they'd be called Sex Farm.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 11 August, 2017, 08:20:46 pm
What, even at night?

Honestly people are reading an awful lot into a couple of images.

yep here's to next two years.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 11 August, 2017, 08:29:58 pm
There will be all kinds of different areas in  MEGA City One because it's MEGA in size and MEGA in scope. The clue is in the name.


Yep - there's no reason that both images above can't exist in the same city as Dredd 2012.  Walk around any large city and you'll get suburbs (often called inner city, but I don't see why, as many are quite away from the centre) areas that are not dissimilar to Urban's Dredd.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pete Wells on 11 August, 2017, 08:40:12 pm
That first picture totally reminds me of one of my all time favourite covers - Prog 1450 by Jock. I love it!

(https://s28.postimg.org/on672mqel/IMG_1822.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 11 August, 2017, 08:55:00 pm
Its concept art. Isn't the point of concept art for people to read into it how the show might look?!?


It's the grand total of 2 images. Even then a lot can change between that and when it's on screen - *if* it gets on screen.

Concept art like this is mainly for people who are going to put money in, not us plebs - the date puts it at being drawn well over a year ago.

Releasing it to the public is seems like something to keep news churning after nothing of note about the show was released at SDCC.

Most people at least wait until a trailer before declaring it's a deal-breaker.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 12 August, 2017, 12:38:44 am
Cool concept art and that's perfectly along the lines of what I want to see.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 12 August, 2017, 12:41:27 am
OK, it is just concept art but seems a bit too drab for me. I'd like a more vivid colourful vibrant MC1.
Could be just the drab part of the city. One scene I loved in the recent film was when Dredd and Anderson were outside the building looking out of the city at night. It looked brilliant with all the neon contrasted against the night sky.
I hope so. This type of thing could be a deal-breaker for me. The version of MC-1 that I have in my head is straight from Colin MacNeil's art for America and Mechanismo. Chiefly crystal clear blue skies and blazing sunshine resulting from the machinations of Weather Control and a perfect example of the excessive reach of the Justice Department. I don't want MC-1 in this show to be yet another gloomy cookie-cutter dystopia.


As others have pointed out we can have both.   Some parts of the city look drab and really run down, other parts could look ultra high tech and gleaming and sometimes the city can be stormy and gloomy and other times blazing sunshine.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 12 August, 2017, 12:58:01 am
That first picture totally reminds me of one of my all time favourite covers - Prog 1450 by Jock. I love it!

(https://s28.postimg.org/on672mqel/IMG_1822.jpg)

Only problem with that picture is that the logo is slightly covered ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 12 August, 2017, 08:47:25 am
One of them is a specific event from the comic - it's the Democracy March, which doesn't end well.

A subdued palette suggests an oppressive atmosphere, as Justice Department ramps up the dirty tricks.

It could start out that brighter and more colourful, of course, with a sense of optimism from the citizens, but gradually get gloomier as the riot squads line up.

These are just snapshots.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: 8-Ball on 12 August, 2017, 12:53:25 pm
What, even at night?

Honestly people are reading an awful lot into a couple of images.

I'm not reading into anything. Just voicing my reservations about the potential look of MC-1 based on these two images. And I understand, over the years different artists have put their own spin on the big meg, I just hope that we don't end up with the easiest (and dullest) one. I would hate it for this show to merely copy and paste Blade Runner's iconography when it already has it's own unique look. It's a deal-breaker in the sense that my interest is diminished by looking at something I can see replicated in a squillion straight-to-video HMV shelf warmers. You can't fault me in wanting to see something different. If the next pieces of concept art to be released have some of that Judge Dredd uniqueness then I'll be as happy as a pig in poop. Until then...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 August, 2017, 02:18:55 pm
Two pieces of concept art, both seemingly depicting a nighttime scene.
I'm certainly not going to get my nickers in a bunch.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 12 August, 2017, 09:53:31 pm
I might be wrong but one unique thing that isn't in any other films is the elevated Megways.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 12 August, 2017, 10:00:09 pm
If the next pieces of concept art to be released have some of that Judge Dredd uniqueness then I'll be as happy as a pig in poop. Until then...
Like the Stallone version did? God, I hope not. It might be a very polarising thing on here, but for me, it has to retain a bit of actual real world semblance, similar to what we see today in cities, and similar to what the 2012 came across as.  Having buildings look all futuristic, with architecture and geometry that just makes no logical sense is a deal breaker as far as my perspective goes. I'm talking about the mushroom-domed structures of the comic. The same goes for the design of the vehicles and in particular the Lawmaster. It would just seem weird to see judges on screen riding a bike that resembles a 1970's LA cop's road bike, with the long chopper handlebars. That's not to say some kind of design like the comic book Lawmaster wouldn't fit in some way, but again its a similar situation to the armour: practicality matters more on screen, where things are more grounded than what they are on a page. I think most of how everything looks will rely entirely on the technology used within the series' universe. Will it be more Star Trek, or Terminator/Aliens?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 12 August, 2017, 10:02:33 pm
I might be wrong but one unique thing that isn't in any other films is the elevated Megways.
Metropolis and Akira, if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 12 August, 2017, 10:10:09 pm
Weird looking buildings aren't that unusual in modern cities.

Valencia has some that aren't a million miles from the likes of McMahon's.

(http://studyforabetterfuture.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/studyforabetterfuture1.jpg)

Or some of Zaha Hadid's buildings

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Wangjing_Soho_by_Zaha_Hadid.jpg/230px-Wangjing_Soho_by_Zaha_Hadid.jpg)

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 12 August, 2017, 10:19:09 pm
I suppose, but they are usually all within a certain height or 'designer' opulent buildings for rich folks.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JLC on 12 August, 2017, 10:39:39 pm
Its concept art. Isn't the point of concept art for people to read into it how the show might look?!?


It's the grand total of 2 images. Even then a lot can change between that and when it's on screen - *if* it gets on screen.

Concept art like this is mainly for people who are going to put money in, not us plebs - the date puts it at being drawn well over a year ago.

Releasing it to the public is seems like something to keep news churning after nothing of note about the show was released at SDCC.

Most people at least wait until a trailer before declaring it's a deal-breaker.
I never delared it a deal-breaker.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 12 August, 2017, 10:58:41 pm
I was referring to 8-ball's post on the deal-breaker point.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 13 August, 2017, 02:10:37 am
I might be wrong but one unique thing that isn't in any other films is the elevated Megways.
Metropolis and Akira, if I remember correctly.


Forgot about those but maybe the sheer number of megways will look fairly unique and the way they're really high up on buildings.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 13 August, 2017, 02:13:47 am
If the next pieces of concept art to be released have some of that Judge Dredd uniqueness then I'll be as happy as a pig in poop. Until then...
Like the Stallone version did? God, I hope not. It might be a very polarising thing on here, but for me, it has to retain a bit of actual real world semblance, similar to what we see today in cities, and similar to what the 2012 came across as.  Having buildings look all futuristic, with architecture and geometry that just makes no logical sense is a deal breaker as far as my perspective goes. I'm talking about the mushroom-domed structures of the comic. The same goes for the design of the vehicles and in particular the Lawmaster. It would just seem weird to see judges on screen riding a bike that resembles a 1970's LA cop's road bike, with the long chopper handlebars. That's not to say some kind of design like the comic book Lawmaster wouldn't fit in some way, but again its a similar situation to the armour: practicality matters more on screen, where things are more grounded than what they are on a page. I think most of how everything looks will rely entirely on the technology used within the series' universe. Will it be more Star Trek, or Terminator/Aliens?



The Mezco Lawmaster is a great updating of the design to me.   The handlebars are fairly long but it looks futuristic and not 70s chopper like.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mardroid on 13 August, 2017, 02:18:52 am
While I'm not adverse to buildings of a present day type (albeit much taller, in the case of the blocks, of course) for the sake of realism and continuity, I hope we see some of the comic style domes and mushrooms as well. I think they're a beautiful organic design, part and parcel of Megacity One, to me.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 13 August, 2017, 02:47:59 am
While I'm not adverse to buildings of a present day type (albeit much taller, in the case of the blocks, of course) for the sake of realism and continuity, I hope we see some of the comic style domes and mushrooms as well. I think they're a beautiful organic design, part and parcel of Megacity One, to me.


Again there's room for all sorts of things.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Woolly on 13 August, 2017, 05:00:22 pm
Those images are spankingly good, thank you very much. Not that it matters much at this stage.

If the scripts are up to scratch, and the performances capture the character of the comic, as per the 2012 film, then the actual design of the city can be nothing more than an added bonus.

And judging by the images released, that'll be one nice looking bonus  :thumbsup:
As others have said, it'd be nice to see a few McMahon-esque rounded domes shoved in with all the straight lines, but I still ain't complainin'.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 13 August, 2017, 07:41:31 pm

The Mezco Lawmaster is a great updating of the design to me.   The handlebars are fairly long but it looks futuristic and not 70s chopper like.
Yeah, it is. I'd personally have that a little more streamlined and rustic-looking. However, it's not really the overall aesthetic that the screen Lawmaster has to contend with. As you can see from the Mezo, those tires are massive. Normally when you have tires that wide, they are on very low profile choppers, and I'm not sure if I've even seen a bike with a front tire as wide as a back tire that's as big. To me, the fat tires are the defining trait of any Lawmaster. Unfortunately I just don't think those are feasible on a real world bike. 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 13 August, 2017, 07:47:59 pm
The Mezco more or less looks the same profile silhouette as the 2012 bike. Beef the 2012 one up a wee bit, add a couple of wide exhaust pipes ether side at the back, just for aesthetic reasons, and some square beams at the front. Job done, I reckon.
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Post by: Beeks on 14 August, 2017, 01:01:58 am
Dirty Frank and Lenny to get an outing?

Love Lenny..one of the few to get one over on Joe
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 14 August, 2017, 02:30:16 am

The Mezco Lawmaster is a great updating of the design to me.   The handlebars are fairly long but it looks futuristic and not 70s chopper like.
Yeah, it is. I'd personally have that a little more streamlined and rustic-looking. However, it's not really the overall aesthetic that the screen Lawmaster has to contend with. As you can see from the Mezo, those tires are massive. Normally when you have tires that wide, they are on very low profile choppers, and I'm not sure if I've even seen a bike with a front tire as wide as a back tire that's as big. To me, the fat tires are the defining trait of any Lawmaster. Unfortunately I just don't think those are feasible on a real world bike.



I don't know how wide tyres can be on a real bike before it becomes unridable or dangerous but in the future maybe huge tyres are feasible?   The back tyre could still be wider than the front tyre though.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 14 August, 2017, 02:36:46 am
The Mezco more or less looks the same profile silhouette as the 2012 bike. Beef the 2012 one up a wee bit, add a couple of wide exhaust pipes ether side at the back, just for aesthetic reasons, and some square beams at the front. Job done, I reckon.


Hmmm to be honest I'd rather they stayed away from the 2012 design.    I'm not saying it's terrible (though obviously many people didn't like it) but I'd like to see something closer to the comic design.   I think Dredd should have a bike where he has that chopper stance with his hands outstretched in front of him as it makes him and the bike look more powerful.   The 2012 bike just didn't have that and it didn't look big or powerful enough.   Dredds bike should be massive.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JLC on 14 August, 2017, 08:24:11 am
The Mezco more or less looks the same profile silhouette as the 2012 bike. Beef the 2012 one up a wee bit, add a couple of wide exhaust pipes ether side at the back, just for aesthetic reasons, and some square beams at the front. Job done, I reckon.
I'm wondering how close they are allowed to get to the designs of the 2012 film seeing as this is a show created by another team? For example the Judges' uniform in the movie is great, even though different from the comic but I'm guessing it will be totally redesigned.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mardroid on 14 August, 2017, 12:02:09 pm
I think a uniform and bike somewhere in between the comic and film equivalents would appeal to me.

While I think the riot cop look of the film was good, it may be nice if they'd adopt something less chunky and thick to accommodate the fact that future technology can manufacture thinner lighter material with the same or greater toughness of the material of yesteryear. Something that maybe looks a bit thicker and heavy duty than the tradition bike leathers.

Then again, the uniform and even the helmet isn't much cop when direct hits are concerned in both film and comics. I've seen judges even shot through the helmet! I think Ezquerra's idea behind the original uniform armour was to protect the Judge if they came off their bike (hence the shoulder and joint pads, yet very little protecting their vital organs). But it makes sense a bit of body armour would be utilised.

Lawmaster: this is an interesting one. The big beast motorbikes of the comics (both versions) look great and intimidating. The film version, cool though it was, much less so. However, even if you assume that the thicker tires would be practically doable, a smaller bike is more practical when you consider weaving through traffic and the narrower roads and alleys is concerned.

Yet for the judges an intimidating image is very important. And a series is hardly the real world either.

I hope they lean towards 'big' with the bike. Something long and sleek, but far less proportionally chunky in the wheel department. Something menacing, but you'd imagine to be maneuverable.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: 8-Ball on 14 August, 2017, 12:13:39 pm
If the next pieces of concept art to be released have some of that Judge Dredd uniqueness then I'll be as happy as a pig in poop. Until then...
Like the Stallone version did? God, I hope not. It might be a very polarising thing on here, but for me, it has to retain a bit of actual real world semblance,

No, it doesn't. Not really. Start taking away the crazy architecture and it stops being Judge Dredd. It just  becomes yet another generic futuristic cityscape. Ezquerra's, McMahon's and Flint's MC1. With McNeil's colour scheme. That's the way to go.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mardroid on 14 August, 2017, 12:20:52 pm
I thought the architecture was something the Stallone film got right, but you're right. It wasn't really a Judge Dredd film. (Well, not how we recognise him now, anyway. In the early days he was rather different, but Stallone didn't even do that right.)

Something in between the two films styles would work well for me. Or even districts in each style as others have mentioned.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JLC on 14 August, 2017, 12:41:34 pm
If the next pieces of concept art to be released have some of that Judge Dredd uniqueness then I'll be as happy as a pig in poop. Until then...
Like the Stallone version did? God, I hope not. It might be a very polarising thing on here, but for me, it has to retain a bit of actual real world semblance,

No, it doesn't. Not really. Start taking away the crazy architecture and it stops being Judge Dredd. It just  becomes yet another generic futuristic cityscape. Ezquerra's, McMahon's and Flint's MC1. With McNeil's colour scheme. That's the way to go.
I agree. The insanity of MC1 should be reflected in its architecture. Giant futuristic cities are very common in cinema so we need the unique craziness of the MC1 of the comic to make it stand out from the rest, particularly to new audiences.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Magnetica on 14 August, 2017, 01:02:35 pm
Then again, the uniform and even the helmet isn't much cop when direct hits are concerned in both film and comics. I've seen judges even shot through the helmet! I think Ezquerra's idea behind the original uniform armour was to protect the Judge if they came off their bike (hence the shoulder and joint pads, yet very little protecting their vital organs). But it makes sense a bit of body armour would be utilised.

I believe the uniform provides precisely the amount of protection (or lack thereof) that the script requires.
If the script says "Dredd gets shot the head and is absolutely fine a couple days later with a few bandages wrapped round it" then that is what happens.  :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 August, 2017, 02:13:08 pm
I thought the architecture was something the Stallone film got right
Aside from redressing that same set about 50 times!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JLC on 14 August, 2017, 02:23:20 pm
I thought the architecture was something the Stallone film got right
Aside from redressing that same set about 50 times!
The 2012 movie got over that by only having one set.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 14 August, 2017, 11:08:57 pm
If the next pieces of concept art to be released have some of that Judge Dredd uniqueness then I'll be as happy as a pig in poop. Until then...
Like the Stallone version did? God, I hope not. It might be a very polarising thing on here, but for me, it has to retain a bit of actual real world semblance,

No, it doesn't. Not really. Start taking away the crazy architecture and it stops being Judge Dredd. It just  becomes yet another generic futuristic cityscape. Ezquerra's, McMahon's and Flint's MC1. With McNeil's colour scheme. That's the way to go.
I think the 2012 film was pretty unique as far as the cityscape went. Believable too. But yeah, I agree, when I first seen it, I just chalked the lack of congestion that the comic version has as being down to a run down sector, or just being very early after the Atom War when the blocks were just first erected.  The concept image, I think, is a perfect blend of the realistic theme of Dredd 2012, only expanded upon to feature the spaghetti like pedways between the buildings.

As for the Lawmaster, I liked this concept. Looks like a offroad cruiser.

(http://cs407223.userapi.com/v407223123/26bf/cbz7lFcY9tc.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: GrudgeJohnDeed on 15 August, 2017, 01:22:34 am
Its not tons to go off, but the concept art looks pretty great! Starting to get my hopes up for something more faithful to the comics!

Not a dig at Dredd 2012, absolutely drokking loved it, but I do think comic book MC1 is ultimately much more interesting than 2012 MC1. Not only visually, but also I cant imagine all the weird sci-fi stuff and extreme sports and fads that occur in the comics happening in that more contemporary vision of the city. I want flying cars and fatties and boing! That wonderful clash of flamboyant towering buildings, outrageous technology and human filth. Where it seems like anything is possible yet the Judges are always around a corner to arrest you for doing it, however innocent. Most people have no job or purpose beyond entertaining themselves, life is cheap and crazy. A sprawling, glistening plasteen favela. Its such a rich world, I hope it doesn't get watered down too much. I'm rambling again!

Would be great to see Karl back in the role, it might be weird at first seeing him playing a different version of Dredd in a different version of MC1 but It'd normalise pretty quickly I'm sure. He gets it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 15 August, 2017, 01:25:58 am
If the next pieces of concept art to be released have some of that Judge Dredd uniqueness then I'll be as happy as a pig in poop. Until then...
Like the Stallone version did? God, I hope not. It might be a very polarising thing on here, but for me, it has to retain a bit of actual real world semblance,

No, it doesn't. Not really. Start taking away the crazy architecture and it stops being Judge Dredd. It just  becomes yet another generic futuristic cityscape. Ezquerra's, McMahon's and Flint's MC1. With McNeil's colour scheme. That's the way to go.
I think the 2012 film was pretty unique as far as the cityscape went. Believable too. But yeah, I agree, when I first seen it, I just chalked the lack of congestion that the comic version has as being down to a run down sector, or just being very early after the Atom War when the blocks were just first erected.  The concept image, I think, is a perfect blend of the realistic theme of Dredd 2012, only expanded upon to feature the spaghetti like pedways between the buildings.

As for the Lawmaster, I liked this concept. Looks like a offroad cruiser.

(http://cs407223.userapi.com/v407223123/26bf/cbz7lFcY9tc.jpg)



I think both the uniform and bike look better than the Dredd versions.  I'm surprised they didn't go with those.   However the bike still looks too small to me and not powerful enough.   Again I think the bike should be pretty big and much bigger than any modern bike.   Even if it's done by cgi like the Minty version.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 15 August, 2017, 01:31:01 am
Its not tons to go off, but the concept art looks pretty great! Starting to get my hopes up for something more faithful to the comics!

Not a dig at Dredd 2012, absolutely drokking loved it, but I do think comic book MC1 is ultimately much more interesting than 2012 MC1. Not only visually, but also I cant imagine all the weird sci-fi stuff and extreme sports and fads that occur in the comics happening in that more contemporary vision of the city. I want flying cars and fatties and boing! That wonderful clash of flamboyant towering buildings, outrageous technology and human filth. Where it seems like anything is possible yet the Judges are always around a corner to arrest you for doing it, however innocent. Most people have no job or purpose beyond entertaining themselves, life is cheap and crazy. A sprawling, glistening plasteen favela. Its such a rich world, I hope it doesn't get watered down too much. I'm rambling again!

Would be great to see Karl back in the role, it might be weird at first seeing him playing a different version of Dredd in a different version of MC1 but It'd normalise pretty quickly I'm sure. He gets it.


I liked Dredd 2012 too but agree with what you say.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: CalHab on 15 August, 2017, 08:19:56 am
Dirty Frank and Lenny to get an outing?

Love Lenny..one of the few to get one over on Joe

Lenny Zero is a very dated character, in my opinion.

Dirty Frank, on the other hand, would be brilliant.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mardroid on 15 August, 2017, 12:27:28 pm
I think both the uniform and bike look better than the Dredd versions.  I'm surprised they didn't go with those.   However the bike still looks too small to me and not powerful enough.   Again I think the bike should be pretty big and much bigger than any modern bike.   Even if it's done by cgi like the Minty version.

I really like the style of the bike, but I agree, something bigger would be better. Only a bit bigger though. Long but not too bulky.

The uniform is interesting. Not so keen on the shoulder pads lacking an Eagle, and I'd make the chest armour less thick, but that's pretty nice.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: 8-Ball on 15 August, 2017, 12:46:34 pm
Dirty Frank and Lenny to get an outing?

Love Lenny..one of the few to get one over on Joe

Lenny Zero is a very dated character, in my opinion.

Dirty Frank, on the other hand, would be brilliant.

Dirty Frank is definitely someone that I would like to see make an appearance at some point.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Tiplodocus on 15 August, 2017, 06:00:39 pm
but I agree, something bigger would be better. Only a bit bigger though. Long but not too bulky.

Yer maw!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 15 August, 2017, 07:22:03 pm
Yer maw!

Your're mom, shurley?

I'd like to see a bike that only Judges can ride. Make it one of the reasons why it takes some of those fifteen years to train up.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 15 August, 2017, 07:38:31 pm
A boot-holster. I wanna see that, too. And lotsa other stuff. But none of the stuff I don't wanna see.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: von Boom on 15 August, 2017, 07:49:22 pm
Not if the stuff you don't wanna see is the stuff I wanna see.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 15 August, 2017, 08:07:44 pm
Could be a problem, that. They should call off the whole thing.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: von Boom on 15 August, 2017, 08:26:51 pm
You're probably right. I mean, good luck getting two or more nerds to agree on every aspect of a show.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Pete Wells on 15 August, 2017, 09:14:50 pm
Well I think your both wrong!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 15 August, 2017, 09:57:14 pm
The boot holster is a ridiculous idea which would thoroughly alienate an American audience.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 15 August, 2017, 10:02:08 pm
It's not practical in live-action.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JLC on 15 August, 2017, 10:17:54 pm
It's not practical in live-action.
That's the key, a lot of stuff looks cool in the comic but doesn't translate well to live action.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 15 August, 2017, 11:18:46 pm
The boot holster is a ridiculous idea which would thoroughly alienate an American audience.

Possibly. What was said American audience's reaction to guns exploding due to unauthorized use?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 15 August, 2017, 11:21:54 pm
It's not practical in live-action.

Danny Bike cannon's range is limited. A Judge needs to be able to shoot all over the shop while riding pillion.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 15 August, 2017, 11:25:20 pm
That's the key, a lot of stuff looks cool in the comic but doesn't translate well to live action.

Even when live-action looks cool but makes bugger-all sense*?



* q.v. exploding guns
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Goaty on 15 August, 2017, 11:28:58 pm
https://www.iamlivingit.com/motorcycling/15-sexiest-concept-bikes-ever-designed (https://www.iamlivingit.com/motorcycling/15-sexiest-concept-bikes-ever-designed)

Lawmaster
In the 1995 Judge Dredd motion picture, a correct reproduction of the comic Lawmaster was made, however, there was just a single issue. It was excessively cumbersome, making it impossible to guide.

Along these lines, in the 2012 Dredd motion picture, the movie producers tweaked with the Lawmaster to make it more ergonomic.The Lawmaster in the 2012 film was based on Suzuki GSX 750s with amplified frame
.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Rusty on 16 August, 2017, 12:00:53 am
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c6/2c/c1/c62cc10861ab9654b77c682f5e4941a6--monster-bike-monster-trucks.jpg)

Sorted.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 16 August, 2017, 12:02:26 am
https://www.iamlivingit.com/motorcycling/15-sexiest-concept-bikes-ever-designed (https://www.iamlivingit.com/motorcycling/15-sexiest-concept-bikes-ever-designed)

'In the 1995 Judge Dredd motion picture, a correct reproduction of the comic Lawmaster was made, however, there was just a single issue. It was excessively cumbersome, making it impossible to guide.'

Yes. I've also read Jane Killick's THE MAKING OF JUDGE DREDD.

A major part of the strip's appeal (to me) is its ridiculousness. Practicality no doubt trumps ingenuity but the 2012 movie's downplaying the strip's ridiculousness was (I think) the main reason I didn't warm to it on first viewing.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 16 August, 2017, 12:04:22 am
Sorted.

Headlamp's too small.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: A.Cow on 16 August, 2017, 12:49:44 am
Sorted.
Headlamp's too small.

And he doesn't have a rear mudguard -- his bum's going to get soaked!  He'll be a man of constant sorrow.  :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 16 August, 2017, 01:00:12 am
The boot holster is a ridiculous idea which would thoroughly alienate an American audience.
Boot holsters make more sense if you're on a bike though (and holsters attached to the waist make a bit less sense).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 August, 2017, 01:26:04 am
Boot holsters make more sense if you're on a bike though (and holsters attached to the waist make a bit less sense).

That's why Lawmasters have a Law-Rod/Scatter-Gun up-front.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zPIoT8PBjVs/UUmcSS1_rAI/AAAAAAAAE3s/cFqPTf_pjKY/s1600/judgedreddyearone1cvr.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 16 August, 2017, 02:06:09 am
Boot holsters make more sense if you're on a bike though (and holsters attached to the waist make a bit less sense).

Which was the Squirrel's thinking exactly, IIRC. No reason a Judge's uniform couldn't also incorporate a hip-holster for performing those 59ds.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 16 August, 2017, 03:45:59 am
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c6/2c/c1/c62cc10861ab9654b77c682f5e4941a6--monster-bike-monster-trucks.jpg)

Sorted.


Lol!   Sorted indeed.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 16 August, 2017, 03:52:46 am
I think both the uniform and bike look better than the Dredd versions.  I'm surprised they didn't go with those.   However the bike still looks too small to me and not powerful enough.   Again I think the bike should be pretty big and much bigger than any modern bike.   Even if it's done by cgi like the Minty version.

I really like the style of the bike, but I agree, something bigger would be better. Only a bit bigger though. Long but not too bulky.

The uniform is interesting. Not so keen on the shoulder pads lacking an Eagle, and I'd make the chest armour less thick, but that's pretty nice.


Yes it's not the same without the eagle and agree about the chest armour.    The Dredd 2012 uniform was also too bulky [ and a bit ugly ] to me.   A cross between maybe that uniform and the comic uniform might be good.   I think the bike and uniform should look very cool, slick and expensive
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 16 August, 2017, 03:55:35 am
Yer maw!

Your're mom, shurley?

I'd like to see a bike that only Judges can ride. Make it one of the reasons why it takes some of those fifteen years to train up.


That might be a cool idea.    Something powerful that takes some training like an aircraft.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 16 August, 2017, 06:48:03 am
Holster with future manetivelcro. On foot, holster fututure maggnettovelcroes to hip; on bike, holster gets futury manetticalvelcroed to boot.

Zzzt.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 16 August, 2017, 07:59:40 am
Holster with future manetivelcro. On foot, holster fututure maggnettovelcroes to hip; on bike, holster gets futury manetticalvelcroed to boot.

I'm outside the Patent Office as I type.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 16 August, 2017, 11:37:38 am
Yes it's not the same without the eagle and agree about the chest armour.    The Dredd 2012 uniform was also too bulky [ and a bit ugly ] to me.   A cross between maybe that uniform and the comic uniform might be good.   I think the bike and uniform should look very cool, slick and expensive

Something more lightweight would certainly be more practical if it has to be worn in day-in, day-out - won't anybody think of the cosplayers?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 19 August, 2017, 11:23:30 am
I've just read The Mega-City Way of Death in Case Files 29, and it struck me that it would make a great episode of the TV series, assuming they don't all have to be action-packed.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Dan2000 on 31 August, 2017, 09:29:35 am
That's amazing, hope it will happen very soon.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: lincnashOZ on 31 August, 2017, 10:11:18 am
Was any one lucky enough to attend SDCC 2017 and pick up the exclusive TV : MC-1 shirt ?.
http://www.anenglishmaninsandiego.com/sdcc2017/sdcc-2017-exclusive-2000ad-judge-dredd-mega-city-one-t-shirt-citizen-edition
I would wear one proudly, but the price and distance killed that.
Hoping they start to show up on the after-market.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: lincnashOZ on 31 August, 2017, 11:02:13 am
Actually, this one suits my personality better  :P.
http://www.anenglishmaninsandiego.com/sdcc2017/sdcc-2017-exclusive-2000ad-judge-dredd-mega-city-one-t-shirt-perp-edition
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Smith on 21 September, 2017, 05:01:14 pm
Nick Offerman for Dirty Frank. :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: von Boom on 17 October, 2017, 02:28:38 pm
What will it take for Urban to reprise Dredd:

http://screenrant.com/karl-urban-judge-dredd-tv-series/ (http://screenrant.com/karl-urban-judge-dredd-tv-series/)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 17 October, 2017, 02:40:54 pm
Isn't that more or less a literal copy 'n' paste of what he said the last time someone asked him?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: von Boom on 17 October, 2017, 04:09:22 pm
Probably, but keeping up people's awareness of MC1 is a good idea I think.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Proudhuff on 17 October, 2017, 04:20:39 pm
Soooo without wading through this whole thread...  what's the current state of play with the TV series?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 17 October, 2017, 10:12:17 pm
Soooo without wading through this whole thread...  what's the current state of play with the TV series?


Hasn't been any news for a few weeks as far as I know.   The last news I've seen was the 2 concept pictures.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JLC on 17 October, 2017, 11:19:27 pm
Soooo without wading through this whole thread...  what's the current state of play with the TV series?


Hasn't been any news for a few weeks as far as I know.   The last news I've seen was the 2 concept pictures.
Oh dear. Ominously quiet?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Keef Monkey on 18 October, 2017, 09:40:54 am
To be fair, it was only announced it was going into development and they did stress at the time that it would be at least a couple of years before there was much to tell or show of it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Proudhuff on 18 October, 2017, 07:55:37 pm
Thanks chaps, Developmenthell awaits... :'(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Tiplodocus on 18 October, 2017, 08:07:21 pm
Not at all. Recentthrillcast from San Diego has a chap talking about how he really can't talk about it but it is in development  (minus the hell part).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Proudhuff on 27 October, 2017, 07:29:54 pm
Well he would say that....
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Zarjazzer on 29 October, 2017, 01:44:21 pm
As long as it's being developed in Hell or not. Two years though, there could be a nuclear war and survivors huddling in mega cities ruled by fascists overlords by then.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 29 October, 2017, 07:10:14 pm
As long as it's being developed in Hell or not. Two years though, there could be a nuclear war and survivors huddling in mega cities ruled by fascists overlords by then.
It'll save on FX budget...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 03 January, 2018, 04:06:27 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/meet-real-knight-youtube-millionaire-businessman-bringing-history/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/meet-real-knight-youtube-millionaire-businessman-bringing-history/)

"In 2019, a television series based on 2000AD is due to be shown on Netflix. It was with that production company, and using his personal wealth from Rebellion, that Modern History is being made."

Trying to cut down on salt, pinch ofs or otherwise.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Molch-R on 03 January, 2018, 04:12:29 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/meet-real-knight-youtube-millionaire-businessman-bringing-history/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/meet-real-knight-youtube-millionaire-businessman-bringing-history/)

"In 2019, a television series based on 2000AD is due to be shown on Netflix. It was with that production company, and using his personal wealth from Rebellion, that Modern History is being made."

Trying to cut down on salt, pinch ofs or otherwise.

Not true, I'm afraid. Not sure where the journalist has gotten this from, probably from the fan speculation earlier last year.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 January, 2018, 04:39:06 pm
Any potential news soon though, Molch-R?  ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 03 January, 2018, 04:40:10 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/meet-real-knight-youtube-millionaire-businessman-bringing-history/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/meet-real-knight-youtube-millionaire-businessman-bringing-history/)

"In 2019, a television series based on 2000AD is due to be shown on Netflix. It was with that production company, and using his personal wealth from Rebellion, that Modern History is being made."

Trying to cut down on salt, pinch ofs or otherwise.

Not true, I'm afraid. Not sure where the journalist has gotten this from, probably from the fan speculation earlier last year.

Thought it would be the case, knowing how these things get regurgitated.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Link Prime on 06 April, 2018, 12:30:46 am
Has Urban's recent casting as the lead in a new Amazon series Butcherd the chances he'll be on board for this?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: MattJW on 07 April, 2018, 01:29:24 am
Indeed!

After the initial rush of certainty and enthusiasm for DREDD on TV, things have gone very quiet...

And Urban's commitment to this other new project doesn't bode well....

Of course, this does not mean an excellent alternative actor cannot be found. Far from it......
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Bolt-01 on 07 April, 2018, 09:27:07 am
hmm... The way I understand it, the show is called Mega-City One so Dredd would only ever be a part of that. I would imagine that as much as we'd like to have Karl in every week- it just isn't 'that' show.

No news is sometimes just no news- I'd rather that the studio took their time and got the scripts and the 'feel' of the show right.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 07 April, 2018, 09:38:19 am
It’s pre-production. During this point, there’s rarely any news. Nice that Urban keeps the flame alive though regarding his potential involvement.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Cosier on 07 April, 2018, 02:39:03 pm
It's worth baring in mind that the first season of The Boys is slated to be 8 episodes. What we know of the Dredd series suggests it's going to be around 8-12 episodes a season, so it really isn't inconceivable that Karl Urban could do both as long as they shoot at opposite ends of the year.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 April, 2018, 02:55:38 pm
Karl Urban's casting in The Boys isn't conflicting with anything; if MC-1 was reaching close to production, it would, but that doesn't seem to be the case at the moment – so Karl Urban can't keep his calendar clear for something that might not happen for a long time, or possibly not happen at all if all stars don't align.

If The Boys is successful, and multiple seasons are commissioned alongside Karl Urban's regular film roster, then it might cause a scheduling problem when/if MC-1 achieves lift-off. Until then, things remain the same.

Not that the role should be beholden to any actor – it's not Indiana Jones. Much like Spider-Man and Batman aren't owned any actor, neither is Judge Dredd, so it's only an issue if they are in any way depending on Karl Urban's name for promotion or financing.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 07 April, 2018, 03:52:31 pm
Not that the role should be beholden to any actor – it's not Indiana Jones. Much like Spider-Man and Batman aren't owned any actor, neither is Judge Dredd, so it's only an issue if they are in any way depending on Karl Urban's name for promotion or financing.

There's also the Superman route - where actors from previous iterations tend to appear in the later (Smallville had cast from the most famous Superman films, Supergirl, Lois & Clark and possibly others).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Tjm86 on 07 April, 2018, 05:07:06 pm
Hmmmm.... would Mr Stallone be welcome?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Mardroid on 07 April, 2018, 08:19:45 pm
Not as Dredd, but I could see him as a character in that universe...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Proudhuff on 09 April, 2018, 02:50:29 pm
I knew you was going to say that ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: sheridan on 09 April, 2018, 09:09:16 pm
I knew you was going to say that ;)


For the double whammy, get Rob Schneider in as well!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 10 April, 2018, 03:57:12 pm
I thought Stallone would make a good Minty.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 11 April, 2018, 08:21:22 pm
Oh come now, we all know which MC-1 role Stallone was truly made to play...


(http://cache.coverbrowser.com/image/judge-dredd-2000-ad/297-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 April, 2018, 08:09:38 pm
For none Facebookers Mr H Reviews is going to meet Rebellion over Mega City 1 TV series.


https://www.facebook.com/1699054006998322/photos/a.1699060766997646.1073741828.1699054006998322/2085638775006508/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 April, 2018, 10:32:05 pm
For none Facebookers Mr H Reviews is going to meet Rebellion over Mega City 1 TV series.

He's back-referencing an older interview which is when that picture was taken.

https://twitter.com/MrHreviews/status/984343193813700609


Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 07 May, 2018, 05:48:57 pm
Apologies ic this has been posted before, but I've just found this article comparing the films, and he actually makes a good point: https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/judge-dredd-tv-show-mega-city-one-sylvester-stallone-karl-urban-sequel-gaze-into-the-fist/
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 07 May, 2018, 07:55:07 pm
I've read that before and take exception to a lot of it. Tonally, the Stallone movie was just flat-out wrong, and everything stems from that; conversely, Dredd was tonally accurate to the comics – the problem is people forget the range in tone Judge Dredd has, and expected the movie to be all things to everyone. (Arguably, that's something the Stallone flick tried to do – what with all the names and cameos – and utterly failed.)

Some specifics, though:

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"Dredd" […] nails the lead character of Dredd himself, but for me […] misses the mark everywhere else
Fortunately, there's a really important qualifier in that sentence, and that frames the entire piece: "for me". So this is inherently a subjective piece. Still, it's hard to objectively state that aside from Urban, the Dredd film got everything else wrong, or missed the mark. I find that a baffling assertion. Moreover, I can think of few things the Stallone flick got right, which this article argues is:

Quote
more right than you might remember.

It continues:

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It had enough cash to realise the visuals properly, and absolutely nailed the look of Mega City One.
I get why people liked this element of the production design, but it never felt like MC1 to me. It was so shiny. It felt like generic 1990s futuristic movie, and had no character. MC1 has character. Stallone-City One was just bland.

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The sets, costumes and vehicles were fantastic.
I will never ever understand the praise for the 1995 film's costume. It's bloody awful. Yes, you get a version of the shoulder silhouette, although one that's in no way comics-accurate. But it just looks crap on screen, not least the jumpsuit bit. It doesn't feel like Dredd could actually go to work and not come back basically stripped to the bone. And that codpiece. Seriously? The vehicles also didn't click for me, with the again bland Lawmaster. They weren't offensive – they just weren't that exciting. (Not that Dredd did any better there though.)

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And the opening scene, in which returning citizens descend from a soaring sci-fi megalopolis to teeming, war-torn streets, was as succinct an introduction to Dredd's turf as you'll ever see.
This is a fair comment. The opening to that movie is pretty good, as is the 'eat recycled food' quip. But as soon as Fergie shows up, it's all ruined.

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But it's not just about budget. The '95 movie drew more more shrewdly on the comic's abundant history than the 2012 version. From undead dark judges to mutated gorilla gangsters, from Soviet assassin Orlok to face-changing serial killer PJ Maybe, the comic has been stuffed with some of the most colourful, imaginative and complex villains seen in comics. What did the 2012 movie give us? A tower block full of scruffy junkies.
It gave us a tense, dark movie with a new villain (who was fucking scary), and plenty of nods if you knew where to look. But if you weren't grounded in 30 years of Dredd, you weren't lost, and I didn't feel any suspension of disbelief. Dropping the Dark Judges into a movie would just make the audience go BWUH? Death is a mirror to Dredd. Without knowing Dredd, Death makes no sense. Similarly, until you get a sense of Dredd's devotion to duty, him no longer being a Judge is not a shock.

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Frankly, the 2012 movie has nothing on the '95 movie's looming ABC warrior and grotesque Angel Gang, both triumphs of pre-CGI physical effects.
There's a point here, although Judge Dredd does with those two examples feel very much of an era that was Tim Burton's Batman. Perhaps that would have worked had we got Dredd sequels that gradually got the space to become weirder.

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The other thing the 2012 movie lacks is humour. Stallone clashed with the '95 film's director Danny Cannon over the comedy elements of the film, and it was horribly cartoonish. But looking at the humourless 2012 model, with its effing-and-blinding and grimly lingering close-ups of exit wounds fountaining blood and bone, Sly might have had a point.
We must have watched different films, then. Dredd isn't a comedy by any stretch, but it has plenty of jet black humour. There are some superb lines, mostly from Dredd. As for arguing Sly might have had a point. No. No, he really didn't. He seemed confused that a comic adaptation wasn't funny – an actual comedy. The thing is, Judge Dredd just comes across as ham-fisted and goofy. It has no gravitas. What makes MC1 in the comic is a mixture of satire, black humour, and futuristic madness. The last of those is absent from Dredd, but it has the first in spades and enough black humour to work. Judge Dredd is bereft of all of those things for the most part.

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2000AD #818, the first issue I ever bought.
Brave that he continued.

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Speaking of ludicrousness: The '95 movie had Ian Dury in it, the costumes were by Gianni Versace, and The Cure did the theme song. Those are the kind of bonkers choices that made "The Fifth Element" so gloriously memorable two years later, and it's the kind of absurdity that the 2012 Dredd movie sorely lacks.
Ian Dury: a great cameo. Agreed. The Versace costumes were crap, although could have been worse (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/08/11/these-judge-dredd-95-costume-concepts-by-versace-wont-convince-you-to-give-the-film-another-chance/). The Cure? Really? Hell, I like The Cure, but a song playing during the credits is broadly meaningless. Had they done the OST, fine. (As for Dredd, it doesn't quite hit the highs of a Clint Mansell for me, but Paul Leonard-Morgan's score is one I've bought and since played quite a number of times.)

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Ultimately, the 2012 movie gets Dredd himself right, and Mega City One wrong. The '95 movie got Dredd wrong, and everything else right. The new TV show needs to draw on both if it's going to be a law unto itself.
I'd say the series should use Dredd as the basic framework, inject more of the comic as required for any particular script, and pretend the Stallone film never happened.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 07 May, 2018, 09:20:17 pm
That's a compelling argument! You've changed my mind (except about the first view of the city -- I liked the gleaming towers at the top and the contrast with the grotty city bottom). Let's hope the tv people agree with you.
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Post by: radiator on 08 May, 2018, 01:28:52 am
Definitely in agreement with IP here (on all points).  I also strongly disagree with the common opinion that the Stallone version 'got the city right'. While there a handful of nice individual shots in the '95 movie - some of the matte paintings, like a sweeping view of the West Wall - vividly recall the comics and hint at a grandeur the production strived for, on the whole it's a totally generic, plasticy looking sci-fi dystopia - very little of it resembles the Mega City One that I know. What's more, the entire movie has that very dated 80s/90s soundstagey aesthetic.

The 2012 version of MC-1, while obviously a starkly different, stripped down interpretation;
a) feels far more coherent and consistent from a design point of view
b) feels like a real, lived in place rather than a soundstage
c) translates the general structure of MC-1 (the Mega Blocks in particular and the role of the judges themselves) infinitely more successfully than the 95 movie does.

With almost 6 years distance from the 2012 version, I have a little more perspective on it, and I certainly think there are some valid criticisms of it;

I still don't love the bike design. I think the humour and social commentary probably should have been a touch less dry and slightly more on the nose (as it was, it went totally over a lot of people's heads).
I think the colour grading is a little overcooked and at times it makes the movie look a little ugly.

On the acting front, while the leads are uniformly great, the supporting cast are a real mixed bag and there are some quite dodgy accents and line readings going on. And perhaps most of all, I really think that the movie would have benefitted from having one or two more action set-pieces - there are some sequences in the original script that it's a shame didn't make it into the final film, for instance, and it's a shame that the film really lacked a few more big moments that would have helped to sell itself in a trailer. As it is, it's really hard to pinpoint the standout action scene (which isn't great considering it's an action movie).

I still think it's a great movie though, and kicks the Stallone movie in the gonads in every single way.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JamesC on 08 May, 2018, 08:22:14 am
I agree that Judge Dredd 95 feels a bit ‘Tim Burton’s Batman’. The possible advantage of this was that the world feels a lot more open than Dredd 3D in terms of the more fantastic side of Dredd. If subsequent Stallone Dredd’s had been made it would have felt natural for him to go to space in search of Owen Chrysler or to meet Tweek or go to Luna 1. I think a lower age rating would have helped Judge Dredd financially - it feels more like a family adventure film than the ‘R / 15’ film it was rated as.
Dredd 3D is more ‘Batman Begins’ in that it feels more based in our own reality. I don’t think the world of Dredd 3D could incorporate those more fantastic elements. Ideally I’d like the TV version to be somewhere in between.
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Post by: ZenArcade on 08 May, 2018, 04:55:41 pm
Totally with IP and Radiator on this one.  The reason the series is in pre-production and hopefully due to hit the screens in 2 years hence, is because of the extremly positive reaction to the 2012 movie and the ensuing clamour for more.  There was a crypt-like silence after the '95 movie (the feeling I had when walking out of the cinema was bad to put it mildly).
To ignore this groundswell, and to ignore what made the 2012 movie so real and impactive to so many people would be asinine in the extreme. Z
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Post by: Proudhuff on 08 May, 2018, 06:32:15 pm
I liked Tim Burton's Batman, my fav of all of the movies actually.

I like that the 2012 Dredd didn't have the whole Boss fight thing that ruins every other action movie and a lot of Marvel ones too IMHO.

Most movies now have a big fight, an even bigger fight then a huge fight...yawnnn

I think Dredd got it right with the tension, humour and social... bring on the TV series!!
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Post by: Woolly on 08 May, 2018, 06:35:48 pm
I think the colour grading is a little overcooked and at times it makes the movie look a little ugly.

Kinda see what you mean, but I think the biggest problem is that alot of the 2012 film appears to have been shot way too dark, and then brightened in post. Highlights alot of digital noise, and looks pretty ugly, as you said.
Thankfully its only at it's worst in a handful of shots/scenes.

Fully agree that the new series needs to meet a middle ground between the two previous versions.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 08 May, 2018, 07:33:18 pm
b) feels like a real, lived in place rather than a soundstage
That's one of the things I really disliked about the Stallone film – there was just no suspension of disbelief. Even back then, the way it was done made it look like people acting in a big shed or in front of a blue screen. Many other films of the time just don't have that. (And is my memory playing up, or are there a couple of prominent landscape components in Judge Dredd that crop up in several supposedly different locations, because they re-dressed the set, but left in a couple of bits?)

I think a lower age rating would have helped Judge Dredd financially - it feels more like a family adventure film than the ‘R / 15’ film it was rated as.
Didn't they shoot for a lower rating, but – for whatever reason – not get it? Hard to know why, really – even back then, it felt like a kiddy film.

There was a crypt-like silence after the '95 movie (the feeling I had when walking out of the cinema was bad to put it mildly).
A friend of mine saw it the week it came out and I recall him coming over to talk about it when we were on our way back from some gathering or other. "So… how bad was it?" I asked. The look he gave me said it all.

I liked Tim Burton's Batman, my fav of all of the movies actually.
For what it's worth, I liked that movie at the time, and suspect I would now if I watched it again. It was bonkers and gothic and smart. Similarly, I'm fond of Fifth Element, which is in the same kind of territory in many ways. Stallone's Dredd feels part of that era in style, but it's just not a patch on the two flicks in terms of performances, writing, coherence, production, design, direction… Hell, Fifth Element's New York City feels like a better Mega-City One than the one in Judge Dredd.
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Post by: Richard on 08 May, 2018, 08:38:44 pm
There are several films that feel like they could/should have been Judge Dredd films, for one reason or another, and The Fifth Element is one of them, along with Robocop (1987) and Mad Max: Fury Road. There may be others.
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Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 May, 2018, 09:37:07 pm
Didn't they shoot for a lower rating, but – for whatever reason – not get it? Hard to know why, really – even back then, it felt like a kiddy film.

Kinda but not really.

Interview with Co-Writer Steven de Souza:

Judge Dredd was actually supposed to be a PG-13 movie. The production company at the time, Cynergy, they were having some financial troubles, so they didn't have any UK executives on location in England. And in their absence, the director (Danny Cannon), wanting to make it true to the comic book, was making everything more and more and more violent. So when the movie was delivered to be cut, it was rated X. It was rated X four times!

They say you can’t appeal after four. Four is all you get. Somehow, the producer, Ed Pressman managed to get it one more time to get it rated R. Which actually wasn’t a victory, because this was supposed to be PG-13. They had made a deal with Burger King, I think, and a toy company and you can’t advertise toys for an R-Rated movie, and no hamburger place wants toys for an R-Rated movie. So the hamburger people and the toy people turned around and sued Disney, the distributor!

Well, Disney then said, we’ll take this out of the director’s hide, because he signed a piece of paper saying he would deliver a PG-13. But Cynergy, who was releasing it THROUGH Disney, at that point had never done anything BUT an R-Rated movie. Nobody in the entire company had ever had the experience of putting that piece of paper in front of a director...so they had to pay him. They couldn’t withhold his salary for violating a legal promise they never asked him to make.

So at the eleventh hour, in a total state of panic, they decided that the advertising campaign should be cartoon panels. Keep in mind that this movie was about five frames away from being an x-rated movie. Their ad campaign was now comic panels of Stallone with word balloons. It’s complete cognitive dissonance!

Now, I’m innocent in this. I wrote a PG-13 script! Obviously, I knew how to do it! I did 8 o'clock network TV shows, for god's sake! In the script I wrote that the villain, Armand Assante says “Pull his arms and legs off, save his head for last, I want to hear him scream.” I wrote in the script that all you would see are the shadows and hear screams. What the director did, without any supervision since nobody from the studio was there, he had his prop people build an audio animatronic puppet, lifelike in every detail, with breakable limbs, and he actually shot the robot ripping the guy’s arms and legs off while the guy is screaming!

At the time, I lived around the corner from the studio, and they called me up when they got the dailies. It was the scene where they whack a newspaper reporter and his wife. In the script, I said it would look like your grandparent’s house, but decorated with stuff from now, since the movie is in the future. You were supposed to just see through the curtains a flash of the machine gun and screaming, and maybe one bullet hits the window. That’s what I wrote. When they showed me the scene in the dailies, this old couple dies like Bonnie and Clyde. Blown to bits in slow motion. I said, “Oh my God, this movie is supposed to be PG-13!” And they said, “No, it’s fine! the director knows all the ratings angles. Run it again!” And I’m like, “No! Once was enough! What did I miss?” He said, “They’re dry squibs! That’s PG-13! You don’t get an R-rating unless there’s blood.” I said, "There's no such rule! Who the fuck told you that?”

When they put the movie together, there were no alternative takes. The only thing they could do with that scene was to take away the slow-motion and kill them faster, and cut the time of the violence down a little. The payoff is that a few years later, Stephen J. Cannell pitched me to be the writer on his Greatest American Hero movie at Disney. When I pitched at the meeting, everything went great. After I left, Stephen called me up, and he said, “I don’t understand. It was all going great, but the minute you left they said: there’s no way that sonuvabitch is ever gonna write a movie at Disney. He fucked us so bad, we were sued by Burger King and the toy company for Judge Dredd. He wrote an x-rated movie for this studio!" I was persona non grata at Disney because of Judge Dredd!



Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JamesC on 09 May, 2018, 06:01:34 am
That’s really interesting, thanks Joe.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 09 May, 2018, 06:55:37 am
Sounds to me like there’s the potential for a much more interesting* cut of Judge Dredd lurking somewhere! Makes me wonder whether the late excision of the climactic clone battle was less to do with the clones ‘looking like shit’ (which I seem to have heard/read in a couple of places) and more the product of a desperate scouring of the movie for violence they could cut to try and get the rating down.


*Violent
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JamesC on 09 May, 2018, 08:39:39 am
To be fair to the director, he's not the only one to have struggled with hitting a PG rating on a blockbuster action film.
Batman (89) was the first film to be given a 12 certificate because it was too violent for a PG but they couldn't stand the idea of bumping it up to a 15 and losing so much potential income. Jurrassic Park was a PG with a special advisory that it wasn't really a PG but, hey, kids love dinosaurs. I think Spider-Man had a similar advisory on its 12 certificate (mainly because of the very violent final battle).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Richard on 09 May, 2018, 09:04:42 am
The funniest thing about that interview is where he says Danny Cannon wanted to make the film more true to the comic!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 May, 2018, 09:21:42 am
I think it much more disappointing we missed out on the stupendous irony of a potential Judge Dredd toy set being given out with the kids meals at Burger King.

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/judge-dredd/images/2/2f/Burger_kingg.png/revision/latest?cb=20160722043749)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 09 May, 2018, 09:30:08 am
We'll always have the Honey Monster ad.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 09 May, 2018, 09:46:16 am
The funniest thing about that interview is where he says Danny Cannon wanted to make the film more true to the comic!
I get the impression that film was a tug-of-war between a massive (if fading) Hollywood star and an inexperienced director. And it was a battle everyone lost. Bar the opening and some bits of production design, nothing good came out of that film. It's not even cheesy and bad enough to be good (if you know what I mean) – Demolition Man at least managed that to some extent.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Keef Monkey on 09 May, 2018, 10:05:41 am
To be fair to the director, he's not the only one to have struggled with hitting a PG rating on a blockbuster action film.
Batman (89) was the first film to be given a 12 certificate because it was too violent for a PG but they couldn't stand the idea of bumping it up to a 15 and losing so much potential income. Jurrassic Park was a PG with a special advisory that it wasn't really a PG but, hey, kids love dinosaurs. I think Spider-Man had a similar advisory on its 12 certificate (mainly because of the very violent final battle).

Spiderman was the first 12A, and the point where the 12 rating switched from being 'nobody under 12 allowed' to 'nobody under 12 allowed without an adult'. A combination of parents unhappy they couldn't take their kids to a Spiderman movie and cinema chains upset they would be losing the family audiences caused the change if I remember right. There have been plenty of times I've had a 12 movie cinema experience ruined by parents bringing in really young noisy kids, so from a grumpy old bastard standpoint I often wish they'd kept it as 'nobody under 12 allowed'!

I remember Batman being in a weird limbo where the 12 certificate had been introduced for cinema releases but not for home video, so the video was a 15 despite it being the same cut of the film (I think). First 12 I ever went to see was Young Guns 2 (I'm getting nostalgic now)!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 09 May, 2018, 10:41:52 am
UK censorship has certainly been a bit mixed in some respects - I guess there's the argument that it's a lot harder to control audience access to video than film, and it tended to be more restrictive on video than film, where it could also be replayed endlessly.

Then there's the whole thing about what can be imitated, like butts, ear claps, microwaving aerosols, and  a hard line on nunchuks, which scuppered the TMNT back in the day.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: radiator on 09 May, 2018, 05:51:11 pm
I think the colour grading is a little overcooked and at times it makes the movie look a little ugly.

Kinda see what you mean, but I think the biggest problem is that alot of the 2012 film appears to have been shot way too dark, and then brightened in post. Highlights alot of digital noise, and looks pretty ugly, as you said.
Thankfully its only at it's worst in a handful of shots/scenes.

It's partially that, yes, but what I'm getting at is more the actual colour grade - it feels a tad overdone to me, borderline garish at times, as it's been fussed with a little too much in post. I'd have gone with a more muted aesthetic.

It's been a while since I've seen the movie, but I seem to recall that there's also a fair bit of the dreaded 'orange and teal' colour scheme going on in certain scenes - that gross, overdone look that makes everyone's skin bright orange and that will look every bit as dated in a few years time as grainy 1970s film footage does to us now.

As I say, it's been quite some time since I've actually seen the movie, could be misremembering or exaggerating.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: radiator on 09 May, 2018, 05:52:49 pm
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UK censorship has certainly been a bit mixed in some respects - I guess there's the argument that it's a lot harder to control audience access to video than film, and it tended to be more restrictive on video than film, where it could also be replayed endlessly.

Yeah - I remember films like Con Air and Starship Troopers being 15 in the cinema but 18 on home video.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: JLC on 02 June, 2018, 11:26:13 pm
Any updates? All been a bit quiet?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 03 June, 2018, 10:34:31 am
Still in pre-production, isn't it? That can go on for years until there's something concrete to announce.
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Post by: Steve Green on 03 June, 2018, 10:58:35 am
Yeah.

You get the odd bit of unsubstantiated 'I've got inside info, news soon' or Rebellion said they're busy working on it on twitter on the Dredd facebook groups. But it's just fluff.

I think the last thing officially shown was the concept art.

Maybe something will be mentioned at SDCC in July, but it could still be 'we're working on it' rather than anything earth-shattering.
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Post by: sheridan on 03 June, 2018, 12:35:53 pm
I think the last thing officially shown was the concept art.

Amounts to the same thing, but the last thing I received was a GDPR email.  I could swear they've added a few hovercars since the last viewing of the cityscape in the background, but could be mistaken.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: Mega-City One - TV show announced!
Post by: Steve Green on 03 June, 2018, 01:24:29 pm
I didn't sign up to the mailing list, so wouldn't know...
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Post by: A.Cow on 04 June, 2018, 05:06:12 am
I could swear they've added a few hovercars since the last viewing of the cityscape in the background, but could be mistaken.

More hovercars you say?  Sounds like incontrovertible & definite proof that they'll be recreating that scene from the Stallone Dredd movie where he blows up the illegally parked vehicle!  It's an outrage!  Somebody get a petition going!  Down with this sort of thing!
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Post by: dweezil2 on 04 June, 2018, 11:53:21 am
I could swear they've added a few hovercars since the last viewing of the cityscape in the background, but could be mistaken.

More hovercars you say?  Sounds like incontrovertible & definite proof that they'll be recreating that scene from the Stallone Dredd movie where he blows up the illegally parked vehicle!  It's an outrage!  Somebody get a petition going!  Down with this sort of thing!

Bring back the transit vans I say!!!!  ;)
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Post by: BMCCOLL on 11 June, 2018, 10:03:01 pm
Given that the abomination that was Stallone's Judge Dredd took nigh on 7 years to finally reach the screen, the longer this drags on the better it is to kick it into touch now!
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Post by: Steve Green on 11 June, 2018, 10:07:49 pm
That's the spirit.  ::)
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Post by: BMCCOLL on 11 June, 2018, 10:15:14 pm
That's the spirit.  ::)

You can see the Hollywood meetings...
Yeh let's make a TV series about the life in Jadge Dreed's MC1!
Lets go fer it!
Yeh but we have to include this...
Lets go fer it!
And exclude that...
Lets go fer it!
And don't ferget those...
Lets go fer it!
But we can't upset these...
Lets go fer it!

...well you get the picture...
Lets go fer it?
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Post by: The Legendary Shark on 11 June, 2018, 11:08:38 pm

It's gonna be great.