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Prog / Re: Prog 2094 - The Order Meet The Edge - Walker
« Last post by Tiplodocus on Today at 06:18:08 pm »
Again, I right enjoyed all of that.

Narration and very long basil segments/speechifying in Dredd weren't enough to put me off it. But I can't help feeling the tale should have been more... "fun" and the degeneration should have been more integral to the plot.
Prog / Re: Thrill-Coma 2010
« Last post by Funt Solo on Today at 06:16:40 pm »
2012: 4th Quarter

In order of most favorite to least favorite thrills...

Brass Sun: The Wheel of Worlds (1800-1811)
Script: Ian Edginton
Art: I.N.J. Culbard
Letters: Ellie De Ville

In a seemingly impossible clockwork solar system, we find ourselves in the dark ages: the occupants of the planets are ignorant of the technology that built their worlds, and the brass sun is slowing down, so that outliers are freezing over and entropy threatens all.  Wren, our protagonist, holds the clues that might repair the slowing sun, but faces ignorance, prejudice and evil in her quest.

Beauty. Wonder. Terror. Humanity. Hope.  I'm not sure if I've been this excited, intrigued and awe-struck about a new story in 2000AD since The Ballad of Halo Jones.  It's got a female protagonist who isn't defined by her looks and solves problems with brain rather than brawn: so it easily passes the test as a comic I wouldn't be embarrassed for my daughter to read.

The Trifecta Arc
The Simping Detective: Jokers to the Right (1804-1811)
Script: Simon Spurrier
Art: Simon Coleby
Letters: Simon Bowland

Low Life: Saudade (1805-1811)
Script: Rob Williams
Art: D'Israeli
Letters: Ellie De Ville

Judge Dredd: The Cold Deck (1806-1811)
Script: Al Ewing
Art: Henry Flint
Colours: Chris Blythe
Letters: Annie Parkhouse

Judge Dredd / The Simping Detective / Low Life: Trifecta (1812)
Script: Al Ewing, Simon Spurrier, Rob Williams
Art: Carl Critchlow
Letters: Simon Bowland

Something unique in 2000AD, a three-thrill (three-writer) crossover piece that brought together Judge Dredd, Jack Point and Dirty Frank so that their disparate investigations all conclude in the 28-page Trifecta. 

The first few panels of The Cold Deck neatly summarize the plot. In the aftermath of Chaos Day the city is reeling from the worst disaster of its history and the Justice Department is unsure if Mega-City One can survive at all.  The extremists of a shadow organization see this as their chance to neatly take over: with a plan to brainwash the populace and instigate a police state that makes the Judges look like liberal-minded push-overs.

The experiment has to be applauded, and the various threads are compelling. Jack Point hadn't been in the comic since 2007, Low Life looked like it had ended and Judge Dredd had been suffering from some fairly lackluster post-Chaos Day offerings.  So: it was thrilling and exciting to have something vibrant to follow, and with top notch art from everyone on show this was all something of a treat.

On the down side, the end of the story is very Michael Bay, or Marvel.  Giant unlikely thing threatens Earth and is neatly defeated in short order (after lots of collateral damage).  Dirty Frank and Jack Point both suffer from a lot of self-awareness: we're too often reminded that there's a clever author between us and the character.  Jack's more obvious than Frank in this regard - with panels missing where the prose needs to push through.  Of course, Deadpool does this as well (and is popular, and funny), but it's difficult to immerse oneself in the story when the author is shouting "look at my amazing word-play" every second frame.  That's Point as in "I think I've made my", and "Don't belabor the".

Overall, a bravura experiment of the fun you can have when you give Wagner's toys to the newer generation; with the downside that the reader is being pulled out of the flotation tank and given a shake every few minutes, like with this Judgement Day reference:

The A.B.C. Warriors: Return to Earth (1800-1811)
Story: Pat Mills
Art: Clint Langley
Letters: Annie Parkhouse

Beautiful art accompanies us on a Pat Mills diatribe of a plot.  That really sums it up perfectly.  What we appear to be watching is a fantasy where a heavily armed robot guns down a corrupt world leader.   The fact that the robot is Hammerstein is incidental: he's just a vehicle for the author's fantasy rather than a character in a story. 

Apparently, the evil machinations of a shadowy elite can be defeated through targeted assassination.  Frankly, that seems a little too neat and smacks of overly simplistic conspiracy theorizing.  Couldn't Mills just have a blog where he trots out his manic ideas, and 2000AD could be for actual stories?  People who want over-simplified solutions to the world's problems (based on the ideas of a comic writer and not, say, an economist, or a historian, or a sociologist) could go read his blog, and the rest of us could be left in peace to read exciting sci-fi and fantasy.

At one point, Mills goes so far as to stop providing a comic at all, and just throwing up some highly questionable statistics: he states (as if fact) that 3-8 million Germans were "killed through allies ethnic cleansing of germany post-1945".  That's a bold (and highly contentious) statement to make without any data reference, and I don't understand why Rebellion allowed it.  Do your own research and come to your own conclusions.  For shame, Pat.

The author's allegorical solution to the world's problems:

Grey Area: This Island Earth (1800-1804)
Script: Dan Abnett
Art: Lee Carter
Letters: Ellie De Ville

An untrustworthy violent sadistic alien gets summarily executed by a decent white human.  Another pile of questionable politics on show here.  I'm glad these are short: because they're difficult to stomach.

(Also, having cups of tea and standing around in board rooms is not exciting.)

How should we deal with immigrants (the strip asks)?

Prog / Re: Prog 2094 - The Order Meet The Edge - Walker
« Last post by Frank on Today at 06:06:58 pm »
I don’t mind captions when they are used to set the scene and bring the reader up to speed, with the story progressing from that point on, which is how I recall it being used in PJ stories.

I don't want to derail the thread, so join me in the footnotes*

Where the PJ Maybe stories are relevant to the point you're making is that the diary device and the distinctive voice of the narrator are introduced at the start of each story, so when they reappear later, the reader is familiar with both.

In A Better Class Of Criminal, the third-person narrator arrives unheralded near the end of a four-part tale, taking over from previous caption boxes in parts two and three, which seemed like they might have been attributed to Dredd.

The narration's actually well-written, though, and I didn't have a problem with it. The defining criterion of a good Dredd story shouldn't be how well the writer copies John Wagner, but the Big Dog liked lashings of free indirect narration as well.

* The diary entry device is used liberally - not just at the start or end, but to introduce new information and advance the plot - throughout every PJ Maybe story except Ladykiller. Its absence in that story and its replacement by either traditional captions or PJ talking to a never-before-seen voice in his head led commenters here to wonder whether the figure we were watching really was Maybe, such was the ubiquity of the diary entry device and ackompanying karicturystick speling misstayks.
Off Topic / Re: Where the dust goes to gather - comics variant
« Last post by sheridan on Today at 05:40:24 pm »
That's the spirit, do you want to become the Jocks social organiser?  :lol: :lol:

The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. ;-)
Megazine / Re: Meg 399.
« Last post by SIP on Today at 05:39:12 pm »
Ha, yes I had that issue when sorting out the prog.
Other Reviews / Re: 2000 AD Sci-Fi Special 2018
« Last post by Tiplodocus on Today at 05:38:26 pm »
 I can see why people would splash out on that.
Megazine / Re: Meg 399.
« Last post by sheridan on Today at 05:37:05 pm »
Another great Meg with Strange Brigade and The Returners the highlights.

Just picked this up, and have noticed the next floppy (in #400) is another Dredd one. Thought it was supposed to be Return To Armageddon?
And, #400 is to be perfect bound. Whoop!
Rest of the Meg looks splendid this month too.


I thought it was supposed to be Mind Wars?  Another great Redondo strip.

That was also my understanding and I was looking forward to Mind Wars. I never read this strip so little bit disappointed with the floppy next month.

Makes sense for it to be a Dredd floppy in the 400th issue.....maximum Dredd I guess.

Having recently sorted out all of my megs, does the Megazine win any awards for most convoluted issue numbering in a comic? I ended up having to use the dates on the front to work out what was happening at one point.

At least there isn't a period of over a decade where one issue a year has an entirely different numbering system, which is then replicated in weekly succession...
Books & Comics / Re: Bargains/deals thread (?)
« Last post by IndigoPrime on Today at 05:22:48 pm »
Fans of Zenith should probably get over to 2000 AD's store pretty damn sharpish, if they fancy getting the entire run in hardback for under 40 quid.
Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« Last post by The Legendary Shark on Today at 04:48:44 pm »
Nicely put, Tordels.

Mad Max is quite a good example of this. He refuses to be intimidated into joining either side and joins the society of his choice for as long as it suits him and then goes his own way. The majority of the characters around him are bound to certain leaders through force but Max gives his allegiance on his own terms, following or leading as the situation requires.

Off Topic / Re: Threadjacking!
« Last post by Proudhuff on Today at 04:25:32 pm »
So when was the Last time you shouted 'Oddsbodkins' with pure glee?
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