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Interstellar (2014)

Started by Goaty, 14 December, 2013, 04:11:55 PM

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Despite a few enjoyable films, it's been a bit of a dud year for the flicks for me- it's definitely contributed to building my anticipation for this.

Tiplodocus

Well I really enjoyed that.  As did Mrs and Tiny Tips.

It didn't seem like three hours in the cinema at all. Some very tense and exciting stuff. I loved the way it all looked like it had been shot as proper space missions with no flashy panning shops twirling around the craft. 

And nice to see [spoiler]Matt Damon crop up as he just [/spoiler] wasn't mentioned in trailers or publicity build up. Nice to have some surprises left in this world.

I can see why people wouldn't like it though.  I twigged very very early on that the ending [spoiler]would be pixie dust and love - like the worst of Nu Who - but I decided to go along for the ride, really enjoyed it and felt myself emotionally caught up in the resolution - like the best of Nu Who.[/spoiler]

Oh and cool robots.
Be excellent to each other. And party on!

Link Prime

Quote from: Tiplodocus on 17 November, 2014, 10:04:06 AM
I twigged very very early on that the ending [spoiler]would be pixie dust and love - like the worst of Nu Who - but I decided to go along for the ride, really enjoyed it and felt myself emotionally caught up in the resolution - like the best of Nu Who.[/spoiler]

There was plenty of [spoiler]pixie dust & love[/spoiler] but the resolution was actually quite satisfying for me; in a nutshell it was simply a [spoiler]time-travel paradox[/spoiler].
[spoiler]5th dimensional evolved humans from the far future use clever manipulation of gravity (and one of their ancestors) to ensure the survival of the human race- thus themselves[/spoiler].

[spoiler]Damon showing up[/spoiler] was surprised me too, I think his involvement was purposefully kept secret.

And yes, the robots were cool. At first, laughable in their chunkiness, later a revelation of functional, simple design and ingenious maneuverability.

I really enjoyed this film.

JamesC

More like Intersphincter.

It was undoubtedly utter bollocks story wise but it was pretty slick and impressive. My favourite thing was the robot design. I could pick holes in it all day but when all's said and done it was a pretty entertaining few hours and I suppose that's the main thing. I think I'd watch again if it was on telly but I might turn it off half way through and do something else.

Professor Bear

It was alright, but trod some very familiar territory to the point I was distracted trying to remember the names of the Star Trek episodes it was strip-mining for ideas.  I don't suppose it matters when movies are unoriginal anymore, though, as long as they look nice and pass the time, which this does.

Some clunky scenes, all the same, [spoiler]like the spaceship flying out to where the bloke is choking, which wasn't so much a plot hole as it just took so dang long - I mean, you could nitpick "how far did two dudes really walk on foot in spacesuits that it took a rocketship two minutes at top speed to catch up with them?" but really, the scene just went on too long for my liking, as did the bit with the fire in the cornfield and the woman just hanging around in her old bedroom, which seemed to go on forever and even when it seemed to end, five minutes later the film returned to it, though I do like that her plot arc with her brother is resolved in exactly the same way as the antagonism between brothers in the Lou Ferrigno post-apocalyptic movie[/spoiler] Desert Warrior.
[spoiler]I do think it's odd that five dimensional beings will construct a black hole just so they can spy on a little girl in her bedroom.  If someone came to me with a plan like that, I'd worry even if I was made of five dimensions.  Could they not have just written a message on the moon or something?  I can't see through time or anything, but it seems like that might be more practical.[/spoiler]

JamesC

[spoiler]The Ranger spacecraft required massive rockets at launch to escape Earth's atmosphere yet on the water planet, which had 130% the gravity of Earth the ship reached escape velocity using it's own boosters.

Also, at the end, Coop manipulated gravity in order to show himself the coordinates to the NASA base and then pushed the books off the shelf to send a message telling himself to stay. He could have just not given the coordinates in the first place.[/spoiler]

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Link Prime

Nolan is lined up as guest editor of Wired in December, definitely worth a look.

http://www.wired.com/2014/11/christopher-nolan-wired-guest-editor/

JPMaybe

I went into it thinking about how I haven't liked a Nolan film since The Prestige, and pretty much hate everything he's done after that, but balanced it against getting to see a space-opera on the big screen.  I wasn't prepared for *how much* I disliked it; so many of Nolan's most annoying directorial tics were present: the vague, dream-like quality, the constant exposition, the unbearably bombastic music, the bloatedness and lack of economy in plotting.

Worst of all for me was the same problem as with Prometheus- as with Prometheus' utter ignorance of biology despite its pretensions of weightiness, the physics in Interstellar were often garbage.  Which I obviously don't care about in Star Wars, say, but in a film so self-consciously trying to deal with really big philosophical themes, I'm a lot less forgiving.  Even less forgiving given its desperation to be 2001.
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Quote from: JamesC on 19 November, 2014, 06:59:51 AM
[spoiler]The Ranger spacecraft required massive rockets at launch to escape Earth's atmosphere yet on the water planet, which had 130% the gravity of Earth the ship reached escape velocity using it's own boosters.

Also, at the end, Coop manipulated gravity in order to show himself the coordinates to the NASA base and then pushed the books off the shelf to send a message telling himself to stay. He could have just not given the coordinates in the first place.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]It could be that the Ranger did have a powerful enough drive to escape from the high gravity planet under its own steam but when taking off from earth they had the opportunity to use a rocket to launch it and conserve the ranger's own fuel.[/spoiler]

Tiplodocus

Be excellent to each other. And party on!

JamesC

Stored where? Did you see the size of the fuel tanks on the rocket that took them into Earth orbit?

Professor Bear

[spoiler]The amount of thrust necessary to escape Earth's gravitational pull requires explosion-type energy releases, not some tiny engines stuck on the side of a hovercraft blowing really hard - note that shuttle launches require fuel tanks several times larger than the shuttle itself.  And that's just Earth, not super-gravity time-bending black hole planets.[/spoiler]

Although that was something that broke the logic for me - [spoiler]not specifically that they beat the gravity of the planet with tiny thrusters, but that they had a spaceship like out of Star Wars that did the kind of physics-defying stuff that Michael Caine's character back on Earth was simultaneously trying to come up with a formula for, which doesn't strike me as poor science so much as bad plotting.[/spoiler]

Spikes

It's all a bit pants, im afraid.

But reading the early draft script was fun. They should have made this version - http://leonardlangfordlexicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/INTERSTELLAR-Jonathan-Nolan.pdf


Apparently Spielberg was attached to the film at this point.