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Title: Ages of characters
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 12 March, 2008, 01:57:36 PM
Right, we all know Dredd is roughly 70 but it's hard to tell, and Anderson's about 50, but what about other characters?
Slaine must be pushing 40, what with his son being a grown man.
Johnny Alpha, according to a Colin McNeill star-scan, died when he was 30. But he always looks about 35. I suppose that's what growing up fighting in a rad-scorched wilderness will do to you.
I think John Smith said Revere was about 15, which was a bit dodgy given that we saw him having very graphic sex with his girlfriend.
I'd put Dante at about 33-35 now, while Sinister and Dexter probably about late 30s. They were 28 when the flashback story about their first meeting occurred.
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: Leigh S on 12 March, 2008, 02:09:47 PM
Alpha was born in 2150 and we first see him in 2180 as a 29/30 year old.

He meets Wulf in 2170 and Wulf dies 15 years later in 2185.  The Final solution is set 2 years after Wulfs death, but says its set in 2180 IIRC - another reason why FS didnt really happen! :)
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: ,Mr. Nice on 12 March, 2008, 05:21:52 PM
Dante's universe is currently in 2673 (although this could well be bumped to 2674 with his next story), the first story was 2666. The approx one year our time=one year his time link was broken post Tsar Wars when he stopped appearing in almost half the progs year in year out.
Have they pegged any of his childhood flashbacks to a specific year?
Anyway, personally I'd put Dante at about 30 now, making him 23 when it all started out.
Some what similarly, the paucity of SinDex's appearences in the last 6 years or so means I don't see any particluarly reason to push them beyond early 30's.
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 13 March, 2008, 04:39:03 AM
I thought Alpha would have been in early to mid twenties when he started in the comics. Though I was just guessing.

Slaine's abit more complicated tricky. I think he's a semi-imortal who no longer ages.

Proabaky a by prodcut of being warped or his strong ties withthe Earth Goodess. Then again that is perhaps completely wrong as it sounds unatural and such.

Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: ,Mr. Nice on 13 March, 2008, 09:36:11 AM
Well what with his tavelling through time then reincarnated back his original time period, his physical age could be reset without claiming that he no longer ages.
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: Mardroid on 13 March, 2008, 02:20:58 PM
Anderson't 50? Judging by the last story I saw her in, she looks very good for 50 doesn't she?

Or would that be the 22nd century rejuvenation treatment? Do all judges get that?
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: DavidXBrunt on 13 March, 2008, 02:26:21 PM
She was essentially in suspended animation for at least a portion of her life. What effects do Boing (c) have on the body?

Her reaching middle age was adressed in at least one Rasom drawn story recently.
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: Trout on 14 March, 2008, 12:34:37 AM
There was also an Anderson story where it was said Psis age more rapidly than other people.

I suspect it's an element that's been quietly dropped, like so many others.

- Trout
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 March, 2008, 12:39:50 AM
I'd say Ace Garp was mid thirties.
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 14 March, 2008, 05:23:05 PM
A grave stone stated Anderson was born in 2080.

And I'd argue that John 'Giant' Clay was 76 years old when he died.
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 15 March, 2008, 08:21:18 PM
I think i remember Alan Grant saying that other judges get anti-aging drugs but psis aren't allowed them. I doubt John Wagner would agree but there you go.

Anyway, i just remembered that Slaine knocked Niamh up when he was only about 15 or 16 so he could still be relatively young despite having an adult son. then again, i'd imagine life-expectancy wasn't the mae west back in his day
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: Cthulouis on 15 March, 2008, 09:07:10 PM
I think I read somewhere that the people of Danu are sometimes viewed as a sort of mythological race of god like beings said to have been in Ireland before humans got there.

That might give Slaine a bit of immortality.

And do we actually know how he came back to life before the secret commonwealth. I mean, I know there was that story where he walks out of the underworld, but that doesn't really explain anything...
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 March, 2008, 09:42:56 PM
***I think i remember Alan Grant saying that other judges get anti-aging drugs but psis aren't allowed them. I doubt John Wagner would agree but there you go. ***

What, you mean Judges get Stookie?
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: JudgePrager on 17 March, 2008, 03:03:36 PM
Anderson is my own personal bugbear - given that she was already PSI Div's best operator when she was introduced (27 years ago or thereabouts IIRC) she HAS to be at least 50. Boing can't really be sus-an since in all but that story people have been completely conscious while inside it. I assume she put herself in some kind of psychic coma/hibernation but even if we allow for that it still takes only three years off her age. Yet still she is consistently portrayed as being a sprightly thirty (and always, always right, but that's a different complaint entirely). Yet we've been getting stories about Dredd ageing for a good 15 years.
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: Rio De Fideldo on 17 March, 2008, 03:11:24 PM
She did have a kind of midlife crisis though didn't she when she went off into space to find herself and she got that horrible ying ying belt buckle.

Nasty.
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: TordelBack on 17 March, 2008, 03:23:10 PM
And didn't she recently have to undergo a fitness evaluation as she passed the big five-oh?  
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: ,Mr. Nice on 18 March, 2008, 08:37:48 AM
This weeks Dante confirms Jena as 30 (+/- 1 year depending on when her birthday falls), what with a dated flashback & her age at the time.
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 18 March, 2008, 09:56:43 PM
'What, you mean Judges get Stookie?'

Something like that, according to Grant. Not to mention lashings of caffeine and indeed a bit of whizz
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: Rio De Fideldo on 18 March, 2008, 11:41:17 PM
John Giant Clay wasn't 76 years old when he died. In the Meg 216 Clay as an old man reminicises about the time he spent with the Harlem Heroes 75 years previously. He must be at least one hundred when he dies.

Judge Giant Jnr is 29 currently because in the Meg 2.50 Giant from 1994 he states that he is 15 years old one of the youngest rookies to attempt to gain full judge status.
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: Steve Green on 19 March, 2008, 08:30:24 AM
As Rio said,

HH takes place in 2050ish and presumably Giant was in his late 20's you can place his birth around 2025 or just before.

So he's 74ish when Giant graduates, and pushing a 100 when he throws his last airstrike.
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 19 March, 2008, 09:06:55 AM
>> John Giant Clay wasn't 76 years old when he died. In the Meg 216 Clay as an old man reminicises about the time he spent with the Harlem Heroes 75 years previously. He must be at least one hundred when he dies.

>> HH takes place in 2050ish and presumably Giant was in his late 20's you can place his birth around 2025 or just before. So he's 74ish when Giant graduates, and pushing a 100 when he throws his last airstrike.

Most people assume that HARLEM HEROES is set in 2050 but it's just as likely it takes place in 2077. If their induction/graduation dates are anything to go by, Judge Giant senior was born c. 2079, his son Judge Giant junior was born c.2105.

The dates given in the first series of HARLEM HEROES are inconsistent. Prog 1 merely states that aeroball "has swept the world" by 2050, not that the story takes place at that particular year. When it was first published, 2000 AD's stories were often set one hundred years from the cover date. Furthermore, Giant's supposed tomb [INFERNO (Prog 72)] has the following inscription:

IN FOND MEMORY OF
JOHN 'GIANT' CLAY
2150 - 2178
DESTROYED IN HIS PRIME BY THE
HARLEM HELLCATS
R.I.P.

Assuming the above dates are typos and INFERNO (its early episodes stating the action is taking place during the 21st century) is set in 2078, this would make Giant senior twenty-nine years old when he fathers Giant junior [JUDGE DREDD 'The Academy of Law (Progs 27 - 28)]. Giant is therefore seventy-six when he dies in 2126 [WHATEVER HAPPENED TO . . . 'John "Giant" Clay?' (Meg 216)].
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: Steve Green on 19 March, 2008, 09:25:34 AM
I seem to recall it has the date has something like 2000 in one episode of HH as well.

If you went from the 2150 birthdate and dies at 76 he would be 49 in the Academy of Law, but he looks a hell of a lot older than that.

- Steve
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: Leigh S on 19 March, 2008, 09:37:32 AM
Aeroball plays havoc with your joints!
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: Rio De Fideldo on 19 March, 2008, 09:43:15 AM
I'm just basing my assumption on the dates given in WHATEVER HAPPENED TO . . . 'John "Giant" Clay?' (Meg 216)] as this is the only Judge Dredd story which gives any dates for Harlem Heroes.

Set in 2126 Clay thinks back seventy five years ago when he was in the Heroes.This makes him about 100 in WHT and also about 75 in Academy of Law which again based on his appearance is more realistic.
Title: Re: Ages of characters
Post by: Rio De Fideldo on 19 March, 2008, 11:30:45 AM
Rico Dredd 2 is probably about 28-29 in current Dredd continuity.

First shown as baby in Dredd Angel 1984-2106. If he assume he was then given accelerated aging to the age of 5 when we next see him in Blood Cadet 2000-2122 16 years later he would be about 21 when he got his full eagle.