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2000 AD => Announcements => Topic started by: Wake on 12 June, 2007, 04:15:52 PM

Title: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct
Post by: Wake on 12 June, 2007, 04:15:52 PM
I've just added a code of conduct to the site, as given to me by Rebellion. Most of it should be pretty obvious, but the most important bits are:

You may not use sexually explicit or ethnically offensive language

You may not defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others.

If you aren't sure about something that you want to post or want to complain about something someone else has posted please email/sendmail me.

Cheers,

Wake

Link: Read me

Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Buttonman on 12 June, 2007, 04:30:43 PM
This place in one week, once all the bans are implemented...

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Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Quirkafleeg on 12 June, 2007, 04:39:01 PM
I'm surprised this hasn't happened before now, tbh.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Buttonman on 12 June, 2007, 04:42:02 PM
11. You may not take 'personal grudges' to new threads in order to harass another user.

That'll account for a few in one fell swoop!
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Dunk! on 12 June, 2007, 04:44:36 PM
14. You may not conduct surveys, contests, pyramid schemes, chain letters, junk email...

Ploppies! Cancel the monthly comp!
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: IndigoPrime on 12 June, 2007, 04:47:43 PM
"Ploppies! Cancel the monthly comp!"

I think they're referring to for-profit competitions or ones with nothing to do with the board. I very much doubt the monthly art competition is the kind of thing rule 14 refers to.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: WoD on 12 June, 2007, 04:48:52 PM
Does this cover the competitions we've run ourselves in the past?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 12 June, 2007, 04:52:15 PM
Well, this should be interesting... :-)

A few initial queries spring to mind:

You may not use or distribute sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive language (including, by way of example, but not limited to, ethnic slurs and religious epithets).

What constitutes explicit, obscene, defamatory etc.?

Other than classifieds, you may not market, promote, advertise, or solicit products or services within the 2000 AD Message Board without prior consent.

So, any small presser has to contact Rebellion to get permission to mention their title on the board?

While using the Message Board, you will follow the instructions and guidelines of authorized Staff members at all times.

Who are? Wake? Anyone else?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: VampiraJen on 12 June, 2007, 04:52:50 PM
random thoughts as i read it...

2. You may not use...ethnically offensive language

you are big brother and i claim my five pounds.

3. You may not spam or flood with multiple posts while using the Message Board.

better watch yourself peter.

4. You may not impersonate any member of the 2000 AD Staff or other Rebellion employee, past or present.

is that including the fictional editor?

5. You may not violate any local, state, national, or international laws or regulations.

i keep stealing pens from work.  is that bad?

6. Other than classifieds, you may not market, promote, advertise, or solicit products or services within the 2000 AD Message Board without prior consent.

ebayers are screwed

8. You may not form or participate in groups whose ideology is based upon or resembles anti-religious...

aren't we all athiests?

hmm.  a long time coming, i think.  it might even be for the best.  other forums have rules of conduct.  everyone just smile as they type.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Smiley on 12 June, 2007, 04:56:12 PM
Most of it appears to be copied off this.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Dunk! on 12 June, 2007, 05:00:10 PM
Attempt at slight humour to lighten the mood, fails.

Sorry IndigoPrime, i wasn't serious.

Serious Tulkas
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Buttonman on 12 June, 2007, 05:04:56 PM
It's probably off the shelf legal gubbins. I agree it's not necessarily a bad thing, as long as it's not rigourously enforced. Maybe Wake could clarify if eBay pimping, Art (and letter!) contests and small press plugs will be tolerated, as they have been for as long as the board has existed?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: VampiraJen on 12 June, 2007, 05:06:47 PM
perhaps these rules could be clearly phrased so that  we know in which context they are okay/not.  like tulkas/indigoprime pointed out, is that including things like art comps, or are all things related to 2000ad okay, everything else not?  honestly i'm confused.  and what happens the minuted we step out of line, even by accident.  are we know walking a tightrope.

not attacking anyone or anything, these are just random thoughts that are popping into my head
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Wake on 12 June, 2007, 05:07:28 PM
I've checked with Rebellion and removed 'contests' from 14.

I imagine that there made be a few more edits over the next day or so.

Cheers,

Wake
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Smiley on 12 June, 2007, 05:10:08 PM
It's probably off the shelf legal gubbins

Yeah, but it says 10. You may not harass other players or 2000 AD Staff. Who are the players?

Could really do with some clarification. (Just being mercenary, y'see, 'cause I've won some neat stuff off boarders competitions in the past and don't want those to end.)
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: TordelBack on 12 June, 2007, 05:14:52 PM
I've checked with Rebellion and removed 'contests' from 14.

That's one of the things that makes this board great - a sensible, sensitive Admin in consructive dialogue with the Suits (or Polo Shirts, as it appears to be).  

I wouldn't worry too much, chaps, far from teh dawning of the Byrnian Era this is all par for the course, and essential boiler plate for Rebellion to have in place in case some mentalist (I forget, is that an official ethnic group now?) or troll (now I know that that's a race, they're in D&D) takes their umbrage offline.  After all, they're paying for the place, so any mental anguish suffered can be placed at their doorstep.  I hope this means we've seen the last of Rogue's goolies, but I fear it doesn't...
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Wils on 12 June, 2007, 05:19:45 PM
My only question is: Is swearage now a no-no? If it is, that's me, Logan and 54 pretty much muddyfunstered for a start.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: VampiraJen on 12 June, 2007, 05:25:16 PM
can we still swear coz that's a big issue for me.  mods on other boards keep deleting my posts coz of my vile language
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Quirkafleeg on 12 June, 2007, 05:26:26 PM
>14. You may not conduct surveys,

So what about the 'polls' function?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 12 June, 2007, 05:27:15 PM


     I f******  hope not !     I like swearing as long as its not gratuitous and not name calling or abuse then it should be ok.   I rely on swearing as it gets a lot of aggression out of my system.

     A bit of disgression and not too much  ?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Dudley on 12 June, 2007, 07:54:25 PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 12 June, 2007, 08:00:50 PM


     This place is very very civilised compared to what i have heard about.   I dont visit certain messageboard chatrooms  but all they do is argue and insult just because of differences of opinion.  Just like children.      Who can string the most swear words together wins the argument !  boring      I know someone who is a bit of a loser that goes to these places every day.       .pointless.     just like the person i am talking about.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Bico on 12 June, 2007, 08:10:16 PM
There are sweary filters that do all the work for you if you fancy modding the swears out of posts - although it does tend to keep censoring the word Scunthorpe, for some reason.

What about religeous slurs if you happen to be from that particular religeous group?  Or racial slurs in the same situation - I'd never drop the n-bomb, for instance, but can a black person do so?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: WoD on 12 June, 2007, 08:19:35 PM
Where does it stop, someone call me Taffy quick...

On a serious note, some of the swearing we've had on here in the past has been too strong for kids of any age, so I don't mind seeing it curtailed.  But it is a fairly 'adult' board and I wouldn't want to be treated as a kid.  In general the board runs quite smoothly and I'm interested if Wake feels there's any specific issues that need to be resolved, hence the code of conduct.

I would also add that we need to keep the pimping going on the board or we'll never keep up with what people are doing.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 12 June, 2007, 08:23:47 PM
What about religeous slurs if you happen to be from that particular religeous group? Or racial slurs in the same situation - I'd never drop the n-bomb, for instance, but can a black person do so?

I'd say no - even assuming you're of the opinion that a black person has special dispensation when it comes to using the word, how do you know who is who online?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 12 June, 2007, 08:28:32 PM

     i make an effort not to swear much when posting  unless it is necessary and even then just the odd f*** as it doesnt look good printed on screen.   I think i am safe on that score.

    I wont ever post the word c*** as i am yet to see it here so far. [even though i just did]

    you dont want to be in the same room as me sometimes if you dont like swearing.   thats anyone i mean.

     using too much swearing to insult someone is just boring.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Bico on 12 June, 2007, 08:35:39 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of what Wod pointed out - jocular but not malicious use of terms like taffy, mick, fenian, etc?  Or referring to female boarders as love or petal?

I suspect this has to do with some boarders slanging personal abuse of late, so I'm happy to see a bit of moderation coming into force, even if it means I now have to stop using some of my favourite words.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: -Dunk!- on 12 June, 2007, 08:57:38 PM
I'd gladly see the back of the N word, the F word, the MF word, the C word and the R word.

But occasional mild creative swearing like Arse Biscuits seems fair usage, lets a boarder's personality through and gives me a giggle.

LCD Tulkas.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 12 June, 2007, 09:14:08 PM

    Is posting swear words that  are like f*** instead of the printed word itself any better ?  I prefer it myself anyway to seeing it printed.

     can you do a series of   *!*!*@*!*!*!** instead ?      I have to let off steam somehow same as everyone else.

        Its difficult not to swear sometimes.  If i am with family etc, its alright to say  f***
but other words are not acceptable.  

   I suppose its different for everyone.

   Its a bit stupid ,the dont let the children hear you swearing because its everywhere.  just not too much and no C word.  Its not good to say that around children.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Wils on 12 June, 2007, 09:14:10 PM
Although considering that "fucker" has actually been in the prog, wouldn't it be a tad hypocritical to ban it from the messageboard?

Btw, what's the R word,as I can't figure out which one you mean? Rectal? Ringpiece? Ronnie Corbett? ;)
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 12 June, 2007, 09:19:02 PM


     It might be retard.     I love the word  "f*****]  one of the best !
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: VampiraJen on 12 June, 2007, 09:40:50 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of what Wod pointed out - jocular but not malicious use of terms like taffy, mick, fenian, etc? Or referring to female boarders as love or petal?

umm...

..you dont think it might be stuff like what one person said to another about them 'whoring their way through the message board' or such.  not naming names just sighting an example.


Is posting swear words that are like f*** instead of the printed word itself any better ?  

exactly.  they're still  going to hear the word in their head so its not like youre protecting them from anything.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: VampiraJen on 12 June, 2007, 09:43:30 PM
surely mother f***ing c*** would have to be a winner
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Smiley on 12 June, 2007, 09:44:11 PM
There's probably some captious argument about how things in the comic shouldn't be copied.

Tits to that. I want a Dredd story where he's policing the Swearing Olympics.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: monty-- on 12 June, 2007, 09:58:25 PM
Bah. A crackdown. I'm going to miss everyone spitting vitriol at each other with language that would make Kings Cross whore blush.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Quirkafleeg on 12 June, 2007, 10:00:08 PM
I think you'll find that should be 'sex worker'.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: monty-- on 12 June, 2007, 10:10:27 PM
Nope. Sex workers would pay tax.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: VampiraJen on 12 June, 2007, 10:24:08 PM
and what about the youtube gold thread.  is that technically advertising another website?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Art on 12 June, 2007, 10:25:20 PM
"partner surrogates"?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: -Dunk!- on 12 June, 2007, 10:34:19 PM
Russell Brand.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Matt Timson on 12 June, 2007, 10:43:56 PM
I'm confused- is this sort of thing still allowed?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: W. R. Logan on 12 June, 2007, 10:51:39 PM
>If it is, that's me, Logan and 54 pretty much muddyfunstered for a start.

dont bring me down to your level mother hubbard.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Wils on 12 June, 2007, 10:55:21 PM
Who you think you callin' mother hubbard, crispynoodlepants?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 12 June, 2007, 10:56:56 PM
excellent ! a applaud this thread, obviously.

now swearing & offensive language, is of course all about context, the system we've worked out with the kids at work is that its not the word, its wether it offends someone, or is meant to offend, and what they learn from this is that different places or people demand different levels of behavior modification. something which the likes of that delightful gordon ramsey would do well to pick up.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Large48 on 12 June, 2007, 11:01:36 PM
Fucking Mentalists...........
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Grant Goggans on 12 June, 2007, 11:41:45 PM
Peter asked, "can you do a series of *!*!*@*!*!*!** instead ? I have to let off steam somehow same as everyone else."

It was suggested in another thread that maybe starting a blog might be a good idea.  I'd have to second that.  The message board should be about discussing 2000 AD, not venting about anybody's bad day.  Perhaps if we take out our road rage, eBay frustrations and job woes somewhere else instead of the board, tempers here might not be so easily frayed...?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 12 June, 2007, 11:49:52 PM
Good work Wake. I've no idea what happened recently (and don't want to) though I noticed the air turn sour. There's bound to be exceptions as there are for all rules, and it's easy to make fun of that fact, but it's the spirit of the rules is the important thing.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 13 June, 2007, 12:17:05 AM

        I am trying to cut down on all that now unless something is relevant.  to suggest that i would carry on  like before would mean that i havent learnt a thing about protocol here.  That is completely wrong.   I dont need a blog.   It was just circumstances.  I dont need to explain it all again.       I was the main cause here of frayed tempers   but i was being taunted by other boarders here.   Of course i pissed everyone off.   I just wasnt thinking  but a simple post saying shut up  explaining what effect i was having would have helped a lot.      I wouldnt have objected at all   but everyone just seemed to let it all happen.      It was only very late on that other boarders stepped in and said stop but it should have happened much earlier.


     I am not in any way transferring blame and i take full responsibility for my actions.  I have had enough practice.  and i have explained and apologised god knows how many times as well and this is the last time i do it.

      I am very grateful for the second chance here as well.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Dog Deever on 13 June, 2007, 12:24:59 AM
Does this mean we canna say 'fud' anymore- but it was only in the prog last week! This is green fascism going too far...
I knew there was something fishy about Tharg's uniform.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: VampiraJen on 13 June, 2007, 12:30:05 AM
I dont need a blog.

aw, go on.

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Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 13 June, 2007, 12:53:26 AM


        Is that a yes ?    I think it is somehow


       on this messageboard?       a   thread ?


                Here ?


       If i do it will only be if it is worth posting. not some sort of daily diary  as sometimes it can be boring here as well  but not often.       I dont have some wierd compulsion to tell everyone everything that happens in my life although it may have seemed that way to everyone.

      Do you mean another thread that never ends ?       I dont want exclusivity if i do but i will have to talk about that with my agent first.


     If you mean a blogging thread then it should be open to everyone.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: VampiraJen on 13 June, 2007, 12:59:45 AM
no i mean go to blogger.com and create a blog.  its so easy you just click a few buttons even i could do it.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 13 June, 2007, 01:07:10 AM



      Hell,    Maybe i just might  go do that  !
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: VampiraJen on 13 June, 2007, 01:13:54 AM
my work here is done.

thank you and goodnight
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 13 June, 2007, 01:28:40 AM


     so soon ?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 13 June, 2007, 01:49:09 AM


    That was a trick !     and i fell for it as well.      I should have spotted that sooner !
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Floyd-the-k on 13 June, 2007, 01:56:22 AM
Good oh. I shall continue to try to be civil.  
  This code seems pretty unncecessary to me; the board has gotten by alright with the occasional banning by Wake and my magical ability to ignore annoying posters, but no doubt Rebellion have their reasons.  At least the code doesn't mention John Byrne, whom we are still allowed to be disrespectful to, albeit politely
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 13 June, 2007, 02:21:33 AM

       I cant say c***oxes now either !
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 13 June, 2007, 02:41:05 AM
Offencieve in my posts.

Does that include the nude picture of Judge Demarco I was thinking of putting it up here. But it looks so badly done. I don't think I will.

You see nude art isn't nessasarily offencive. It's not really pornography.

Although my personal interpetation of the lady with no cloths on might be considered offencive merely becuiuase of my drawing ability.

Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Keef Monkey on 13 June, 2007, 08:57:28 AM
I'd always assumed there was a code of conduct in place, seems strange there wouldn't be to be honest. I just didn't hunt it out or read it as I figured I'm generally not that offensive, figured if I was doing something wrong I'd get called on it and learn soon enough. Having a code in place to discourage all out war breaking out doesn't seem like a bad idea.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: W. R. Logan on 13 June, 2007, 09:21:57 AM
>Fucking Mentalists...........

will now be Funky Menthalists.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Matt Timson on 13 June, 2007, 09:33:25 AM
I'm just going to carry on as before and await my ban.  It will probably do me a favour in the long run...
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Dunk! on 13 June, 2007, 09:34:41 AM
How about treating swearing like spoilers?

Flip me! You're all a bunch of CuteHeroes.

MuddyFunsters!!!!

Then it's at the viewer's discretion.

Ain't that great :)
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Noisybast on 13 June, 2007, 09:50:24 AM
Wait - I've just thought of a really clever way of getting around this whole "code of conduct" thing.

I'm just not going to act like a massive twat towards other boarders...
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 13 June, 2007, 09:51:36 AM
It's crazy... but it might just work!
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Noisybast on 13 June, 2007, 09:57:04 AM
Yeah, I'll probably start tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 13 June, 2007, 09:58:55 AM
I'll see how it goes for you first before I decide.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Steve Green on 13 June, 2007, 09:59:21 AM
Except you wouldn't be able to use Tw@t, I would have thought.

Sledgehammer to crack a nut IMHO. Especially the rules on Religious Epithets and swearing, considering what has been in the prog and particularly the Meg.

So we can read someone saying "Jesus H whatever" in the prog, but not actually post it, according to that code of conduct?

Crazy. Or, mentally different if you prefer.

- Steve
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 13 June, 2007, 10:07:26 AM


    I am going to try this as well !    
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: W. R. Logan on 13 June, 2007, 10:35:44 AM
so will icons like this be allowed?

Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Steve Green on 13 June, 2007, 10:50:48 AM
How about this?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 13 June, 2007, 10:55:35 AM
that is disgusting ! it clearly perpetuates the rascial stereotype of baldie men being sexually violent.... and having wierd armpits.


Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 13 June, 2007, 10:55:42 AM
that is disgusting ! it clearly perpetuates the rascial stereotype of baldie men being sexually violent.... and having wierd armpits.


Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Matt Timson on 13 June, 2007, 11:03:47 AM
"I'm just not going to act like a massive twat towards other boarders..."

Oh just shut it- you big, gay looking, God bothering, twat*...








*most of this is made up for effect.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Noisybast on 13 June, 2007, 11:14:33 AM
Most of it.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Matt Timson on 13 June, 2007, 11:30:40 AM
I fed you that one.

;)
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Matt Timson on 13 June, 2007, 11:33:54 AM
Also, I'm not expecting any difficulty with my new boardname.  Although an appropriate icon might be somewhat problematic.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: johnnystress on 13 June, 2007, 11:34:52 AM
bravo :)
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: LARF on 13 June, 2007, 12:10:47 PM
Hmm I was toying with changing my name to Cunning Stunt... :-)

btw: do the new rules affect previous threads prior to the date created? If so there's an awful lot of editing to do, and what happens if someone re-invigorates an old thread that has lots of abusive language in it etc.

Finally are these rules in response to that picture of the Kingsley brothers and the obvious innuendoesque responses that came from  posting it on the board - so in turn is it a kick in the teeth to the boarders for dissing them?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Wake on 13 June, 2007, 12:27:43 PM
I'm not going to be editing old messages and this code of conduct isn't due to the Kingsley thread. I'm working on some revisions of the code of conduct and may be adding a '15 certificate' to the board so that we can keep vulgar (but not abusive) language.

In general the point of the code of conduct is not to change the personality of this message board, but just to give it some boundaries. If there is anything in the code of conduct which contradicts generally accepted practice on this site, then it is probably the code not the practice that needs to change. However, please wait until the next version of the code has been uploaded before telling me what you don't like about it.

Cheers,

Wake
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: WoD on 13 June, 2007, 12:51:07 PM
Stop being reasonable Wake...there's a fight to be had here!!
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: DavidXBrunt on 13 June, 2007, 01:03:49 PM
You turn your back for five minutes and all this happens. You obviously needed me more than I realised.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Noisybast on 13 June, 2007, 01:09:30 PM
Welcome back, David.
The board's been disbruntled for too long.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: johnnystress on 13 June, 2007, 01:15:37 PM
Wake- can we ban bad puns as well?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 13 June, 2007, 01:20:52 PM
oh if only they could be universally banned ! you have no idea how much i suffer.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: judge dreddd on 13 June, 2007, 01:31:08 PM
I have been busy elsewhere, what brought all this on then eh eh eh,be a PAL and fess up !
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: judge dreddd on 13 June, 2007, 01:32:03 PM
I have been busy elsewhere, what brought all this on then eh eh eh,be a PAL and fess up !
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 13 June, 2007, 01:43:53 PM
oh if only they could be universally banned ! you have no idea how much i suffer.


You are TREATED to EXTRAORDINARY puns!
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Wake on 13 June, 2007, 01:46:35 PM
The next version of the code is now up. Hopefully small pressers, etc. can now relax.

Cheers,

Wake
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 13 June, 2007, 01:48:04 PM
Small pressers 'relax'??

I frickin' WISH!

Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Proudhuff on 13 June, 2007, 02:19:41 PM
Rule six refers to the builders I used last year: Hacks, Cracks and Patches. Have you got a contact number for them?

as for slurs etc, does that mean no postings of that recent antijock Dredd story?

England Prevails!

PS. Good luck Wake
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Wils on 13 June, 2007, 02:25:14 PM
That makes much more sense, although there's no z in "authorisation". ;p
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Funt Solo on 13 June, 2007, 02:37:21 PM
"Authorization" is at least as correct as "authorisation".  I larnd it frome a web pyage.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Byron Virgo on 13 June, 2007, 02:43:46 PM
Wait, has Timson changed his name *again*...?!
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Tanky on 13 June, 2007, 03:08:15 PM
What the monkey-lovin' clagnuts has been going on around here?!*

I never like the idea of extra rules myself but I guess if the place won't stay nice on it's own any more then it's necessary. Damn shame.

Anyhoo, I think I'll return to my state of semi-lurkerdom and see how it all affects the place. Do try to be excellent to each other now.

xTGx


*Don't worry, I'm not actually expecting an answer to that :)
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: SamuelAWilkinson on 13 June, 2007, 07:30:00 PM
Time for my own oh-so-wacky take on the code, then:

You may not impersonate another Board Member, comic creator or Member of Staff.

Does that mean the running "I'm x and so is my wife" gag is out the window?

You may not violate any local, state, national, or international laws or regulations.

Now, it may just be my reading of it, but this rule appears to apply to any law anywhere. In which case, we're all in trouble with China.

Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Dog Deever on 13 June, 2007, 07:35:17 PM
And I'm a staunch presbytarian* and a offended by cockpouches who take the lords name in vain...








*a Lie
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 13 June, 2007, 08:16:53 PM


    I have just read the code of conduct in detail.

     Article 12  :       Thats the governments job not ours.        It would be like stealing work from them  to do that yourself.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Large48 on 13 June, 2007, 09:33:08 PM
And what about bad taste rules....

I'm sure one of the many FM's out there has brown shoes with a blue suit!!!!!!!

Or they wear brown suits in town - ouch!!!!

I'm sure there must be some group we can still take the piss out of??????

Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 13 June, 2007, 10:15:46 PM
"there must be some group we can still take the piss out of?????? "

well bullet for my chemical fall out funeral works for me.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: W. R. Logan on 13 June, 2007, 10:17:42 PM
>I'm sure one of the many FM's out there has brown shoes with a blue suit!!!!!!!

Brown shoes, that must be the death penalty!

Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: VampiraJen on 13 June, 2007, 11:32:41 PM
I'm working on some revisions of the code of conduct and may be adding a '15 certificate' to the board so that we can keep vulgar (but not abusive) language.


fucking yeah!
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: VampiraJen on 13 June, 2007, 11:54:29 PM
That was a trick ! and i fell for it as well. I should have spotted that sooner !

hmm...?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Trout on 14 June, 2007, 12:02:06 AM
Pah. I vanish for a wee while and Dredd takes over! ;-)

This is a great move and we've been badly in need of it for years.

Well done.

- Trout
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Matt Timson on 14 June, 2007, 12:13:00 AM
Not really.  By and large, people censor themselves and when they don't- Wake steps in.  I've never found him to be particularly heavy handed or unfair either.  I don't mind if we have a 'code of conduct' or not- but it's hardly something that the board has been "badly in need of for years".
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Trout on 14 June, 2007, 12:18:45 AM
It's just my opinion. IMO one of the causes of arguments escalating - and I really am talking in general here, and not about any one person or thread - is the process of arguing about who's in the wrong.

A board with a specific code of conduct removes that, to an extent, if anyone has breached it.

That said, parts of it are open to interpretation, as has been pointed out, so I don't expect it will cure all ills. Also, people on both sides of an argument are often in the wrong. (looks at his shoes nervously)

And you're right that people do censor themselves. Practically every member the board has ever had has proved to be sensible.

But I do feel happier seeing a code of conduct there, especially as it's come from the site owners, who are ultimately responsible for what goes on here. It matters to me, as a 2000AD fan, that the owners of the comic are seen to run their website professionally.

Or maybe I'm just a rules freak. ;-)

- Trout
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 14 June, 2007, 12:24:39 AM


    Well i cant back down now can i ?     Off the message board and straight onto a blog.      I have always heard about blogs but never imagined i would actually bother doing it.

    yet i am just about to.        Its all just very new all this and you sort of pushed me into doing it but in a good way.       We will have to see what happens then........



           I hope this explains.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Trout on 14 June, 2007, 12:24:53 AM

Italics hell!
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Matt Timson on 14 June, 2007, 12:27:14 AM
Rules freak!
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Matt Timson on 14 June, 2007, 12:29:41 AM
Also, to be fair, I always kind of assumed that there was already a set of rules of conduct that people were just ignoring when they felt like it.

Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Wake on 14 June, 2007, 10:54:25 AM
I've just added the age check so swearing in moderation is fine. If in doubt, try and think of the differences between a 15 and an 18 certificate for a film.

Cheers,

Wake
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Steve Green on 14 June, 2007, 12:27:19 PM
Hmmm, considering the 15 rated Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz both use the C-word - I'm not sure how it applies.

Ratings seem to be more lenient these days.

- Steve
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Wake on 14 June, 2007, 12:36:38 PM
Therefore you can use common swearwords like cunt, fuck, shit, bugger, etc. in moderation.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: judge dreddd on 14 June, 2007, 12:38:14 PM
I can see the day when you have to sign a form to go into a pub and beer glasses have 'warning:contains beer' on them.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Wake on 14 June, 2007, 12:40:21 PM
Shouldn't that be 'warning: may contain beer'. Mine usually contains cider.

Cheers,

Wake
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: judge dreddd on 14 June, 2007, 12:44:05 PM
...due to eec directive 339393/22 all drinks must be served in a specific shaped glass,with appropriate warnings, and a chart explaining these is on display behind the bar....

mmm...drinking vs smoking thread coming on...
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Goaty on 14 June, 2007, 12:50:09 PM
has it become pain in the ar**? as it there everytime i come to 2000adonline.com????
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Matt Timson on 14 June, 2007, 12:59:35 PM
"Therefore you can use common swearwords like cunt, fuck, shit, bugger, etc. in moderation."

There's something quite hysterically funny about that coming from you, Wake!
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Wake on 14 June, 2007, 01:14:43 PM
I know. I think I've just used up my annual allowance for a couple of those words.

You shouldn't need to re-certify your age every time you go onto the message board, unless you sign off (which you should do if you have under 15s that might use your computer).

Cheers,

Wake
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Wils on 14 June, 2007, 01:17:22 PM
Heh. It's like being at school and hearing your teacher swear. :)
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Tanky on 14 June, 2007, 04:13:24 PM
How does it know?! I don't remember ever having to enter my D.O.B to register. I could be 7 1/2...
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 14 June, 2007, 04:22:05 PM

     I was caned once for swearing at a teacher for swearing at him in front of the whole class .         I was given the option of detention or caning .i chose caning as it was over with quickly and it meant i could get away quicker and go and enjoy myself elsewhere.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Byron Virgo on 14 June, 2007, 04:40:48 PM
I don't think, in the four or so years that I've been here, I've ever heard Wake swear before - that actually has genuinely shocked me. But in a good way.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Noisybast on 14 June, 2007, 04:43:54 PM
Good point. Has he just violated his own Core Concept (TM)?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Wake on 14 June, 2007, 04:53:12 PM
You may not remember it, but you did. One of my cousins is exactly 4 years older than you.

The certification doesn't cross reference with the DoB you put on registration, since the message board can be viewed without registering. The point is that if you say you are 15+ when you aren't then you (or your parents) can't complain about the tone of the board not being fit for your age group.

Cheers,

Wake
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Tanky on 14 June, 2007, 05:01:32 PM
Aaahh! I get it. Frankly I can't remember what happened last Tuesday so it's no big surprise! There was me thinking the hive mind had evolved :)
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Dog Deever on 14 June, 2007, 06:07:41 PM
The point is that if you say you are 15+ when you aren't then you (or your parents) can't complain about the tone of the board not being fit for your age group.

Quite right- fuck them, lying bastards!
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: mechanix81 on 14 June, 2007, 09:49:13 PM
God, this is so fucking gay. 'anti-religious'? Does that mean generally, like 'there is no god',

or does that mean specific like 'had the winesses round the other day'?


Cos if it is, should one not be allowed to talk about one's own religion? I mean, look at most of the work of Pat Mills, with his takes on organised religion. If we can't do it in a contained e-space via a dialogical discourse, then surely he shouldn't be able to do it in a medium that is monological and has a larger effect threshold than a message board.

You can't have one rule for most and another for Pat, you know. Or look at the Megazine having reprinted Preacher.


This is just contradictory and fudged.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 14 June, 2007, 11:11:26 PM
I don't have a problem with this.

As long as Famke's Underwear thread remains safe.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Matt Timson on 14 June, 2007, 11:29:49 PM
Surely everything you've ever written violates the code?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 14 June, 2007, 11:44:19 PM
Nothing that could cause offence in any of my... oh, hang on.

I do worry when people get overly sensitive about things that people might find offensive. I did a gig on Tuesday night and actually used a punchline that involved a reference to little missing Madeleine.  There were a few tuts and intakes of breath but it was mostly laughs; people realised it was not mocking her situation in any way.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: VampiraJen on 15 June, 2007, 12:03:17 AM
I can see the day when you have to sign a form to go into a pub and beer glasses have 'warning:contains beer' on them.

soya milk says on it: allergy advice - contains soya
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 15 June, 2007, 12:12:31 AM



     I think that if i can keep my mouth shut  then this will all blow over and everything will be as it was before.


@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@



 Vampiejen   :      I replied to your    Hmmm ?   post by the way.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Art on 15 June, 2007, 12:27:39 AM
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: -Dunk!- on 15 June, 2007, 12:42:08 AM
Chesus, I'm done.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Matt Timson on 15 June, 2007, 12:42:15 AM
Any version of 'The Cross and the Switchblade' that doesn't have Eric Estrada in it isn't worth talking about.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: johnnystress on 15 June, 2007, 08:43:35 AM
Those Spire comics are great!

I have 'Hansi-The Girl Who Loved the Swastika' and 'The Johnny Cash Story'

quality stuff

with a message!
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 16 June, 2007, 07:58:23 AM
Code of conduct?

Bunch of fucking cunts, the lot of you ...

Cheers!

Jim
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 18 June, 2007, 09:47:52 PM


     Article 5 :      This article seems to apply to international law.       country to country.     Even while at sea.      Does this mean  that it only applys while using the messageboard or Internet ?    Or does it apply to all countries at all times including international waters even when not online ?        I just want to know before i go any further  with anything.


    [not being serious]
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct
Post by: TheEdge on 14 August, 2008, 04:21:39 PM
is now scared to post, so will post in secret. bum grapes


highlight if not easily offended only
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 03 May, 2009, 12:32:27 AM
Where in the name of Grud is the funting Code of drokking Conduct, anyway? The link in the original post only leads to the 2000ADonline front smegging page. All I can find is this load of dren:

Why did I receive a warning?
    Each board administrator has their own set of rules for their site. If you have broken a rule, you may be issued a warning. Please note that this is the board administrator's decision, and the phpBB Group has nothing to do with the warnings on the given site. Contact the board administrator if you are unsure about why you were issued a warning.

How can I report posts to a moderator?
    If the board administrator has allowed it, you should see a button for reporting posts next to the post you wish to report. Clicking this will walk you through the steps necessary to report the post.

and

Why does my post need to be approved?
    The board administrator may have decided that posts in the forum you are posting to require review before submission. It is also possible that the administrator has placed you in a group of users whose posts require review before submission. Please contact the board administrator for further details.


Now, don't take this the wrong way (as Gaia said to Jehovah), but does this mean that every snecking thing I've just spent the last Jovus knows how long reading on this mother-stroking thread (and my creative swearage) is now total frakkin' ballcocks, for fuck's sake? Or did I miss something?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct
Post by: Old Tankie on 03 May, 2009, 08:26:49 AM
What did you say  that was so bad?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 03 May, 2009, 03:41:49 PM
Sorry, I didn't say anything. (At least, I don't think I did.)

I was just rooting through the board last night and found this thread, which I enjoyed reading. Then I tried looking for the Code of Conduct and couldn't find it - hence my 'hilarious' post. Has the CoC been removed? Can we swear and be offensive at people now?

Of course, the link for the CoC may be staring me right in my stupid face. Um, could somebody point it out for me? Please?
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct
Post by: Old Tankie on 03 May, 2009, 05:26:01 PM
Sorry, Shark, I was half-a-kip when I read your post this morning, somehow I came to the conclusion that you'd been directed to the Code of Conduct by a moderator, maybe for something that you had posted, when, of course, you were just reading it out of interest.  That'll teach me to pay more attention (teachers were always telling me that!!)  Cheers.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 03 May, 2009, 07:20:23 PM
"The Cross and SwitchBlade"

When the young preacher says " You could cut me up in a thousand pieces......." I recall from television film of the same name. --Obviously a adaption--   This memories of watching this in one of my old high school's television rooms. I think it was for religous education.

I remember that fellow -- who was the latino cop frop "Chips"-- was the rebllious gang leader to whom that young preacher said those words.

Well, I thought it cool when we were aloud to watch anything at all on a television screen during school time.

Sort of like the time we also watched "The Scarlet and the Black" for some reason, I forgot the school subject for that one and 'Day of the Triffids" -- The serealised version - which I know was for english. As we were given that book to read for the semester.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 03 May, 2009, 07:25:25 PM
QuoteAny version of 'The Cross and the Switchblade' that doesn't have Eric Estrada in it isn't worth talking about.

Yep, thats the latino cop from Chips that I was talking about 8-)

Sorry, I didn't read your post before.
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct
Post by: Floyd-the-k on 02 June, 2009, 01:59:31 AM
we're not all atheists, Vampira Jen*.  Not that it matters.
  so did the code of conduct turn up?

yours vowing to be nice

Floyd




*referencing you from page 1 of this thread
Title: Re: 2000 AD Online Code of Conduct
Post by: Devons Daddy on 02 June, 2009, 03:43:40 AM
I am always nice!!!!
though pretty much everyone here is,

code of conduct good thing.
adds a layer of principle to our wonderful area of the net.