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Title: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 September, 2011, 11:51:16 PM
it will be 12 months next Monday,

With a new fan poster I created, with Jock style of Dredd, been email Jock the poster first, then got his reply "Ha, thats brilliant goaty. Cheers!" :-)

(http://i.imgur.com/h9Hh0.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 September, 2011, 12:32:02 AM
Send it to Danny Cannon and Stallone too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ED GRIMREAPER on 07 September, 2011, 02:42:14 PM
Very cool :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 07 September, 2011, 05:15:10 PM
 12 months, that's almost a year! Great poster Goaty :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Really kicks ass! :D

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 07 September, 2011, 05:19:39 PM
outstanding i hate that shit house film lol :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Judge Palmer on 09 September, 2011, 04:50:36 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 September, 2011, 11:51:16 PM
it will be 12 months next Monday,

With a new fan poster I created, with Jock style of Dredd, been email Jock the poster first, then got his reply "Ha, thats brilliant goaty. Cheers!" :-)

(http://i.imgur.com/h9Hh0.jpg)

Loving the poster Goaty, so good I thought I would post it up again  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2011, 05:20:33 PM
Cool poster!

I know this film isn't out yet, but I already hope it gets a sequel. I would really like to see Lance Henriksen as Dredd though. He has a booming voice but isn't in a lot of good movies these days. Perhaps if it was set when dredd is much older and meaner, it would justify using a different actor.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 09 September, 2011, 08:46:48 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2011, 05:20:33 PM
Cool poster!

I know this film isn't out yet, but I already hope it gets a sequel. I would really like to see Lance Henriksen as Dredd though. He has a booming voice but isn't in a lot of good movies these days. Perhaps if it was set when dredd is much older and meaner, it would justify using a different actor.

Don't you want to see how Karl's Dredd works first? I've seen it, it's not bad at all.. I too am hoping for a sequel :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 September, 2011, 01:42:32 AM
Yeah, I want to see how Karl Urban's dredd is, and I think/hope it will be cool. But if there were to be a sequel, how many dredd movies are there gonna be? Different actors every time I say.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 September, 2011, 01:51:16 AM
3 films have been tentatively planned.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 10 September, 2011, 04:53:54 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 September, 2011, 01:51:16 AM
3 films have been tentatively planned.

Allon Reich, one of Dredd's producers, is on record in an interview with Variety  magazine, wherein he stated they were aiming for a potential "three-picture" franchise, and also, Andrew MacDonald, another of Dredd's producers has stated that writer Alex Garland already had a number of ideas for sequels (if they happen), taken together, it certainly sounds like the Dredd production team are probably already thinking seriously about potential sequel storylines, my vote is still on Judge Death in either the second or third film, and probably a Block War in the second, but let's not get ahead of ourselves, roll on 21/9/12...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fuzzed on 10 September, 2011, 11:56:26 AM
A different actor every time? So everyone can angst and whine about it every single bloody time? Seriously? Yeah, no thanks. I know I know I know, what's a forum for but to angst and whine, you say. Fine. *grumps* Just putting forth my tuppenny.

Also, I'm pretty sure it's the norm to operate under a trilogy 'contract' these days, ie, actors agreeing to return should there be more and so on. Read that somewhere, or saw an interview, or both. Might even have been here. Doesn't really guarantee sequels.

I was reading up about box office and finance etc on one of the comic sites and it's quite frightening how well a film has to do to get a sequel. Makes it even more amazing that there was a Serenity movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 September, 2011, 07:29:39 PM
Well if anyone interesting, as the new Dredd's director, his first film (well he did many tv programmes!) called Vantage Point, it is on Five at 8.05pm tonight, it not bad, but well action.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 11 September, 2011, 08:25:13 PM
Well I hope a sequel follows. The Spiderman reboot already has a sequel penned apparently.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 September, 2011, 08:46:51 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 September, 2011, 07:29:39 PM
Well if anyone interesting, as the new Dredd's director, his first film (well he did many tv programmes!) called Vantage Point, it is on Five at 8.05pm tonight, it not bad, but well action.


His first film is really Omagh, although a feature film produced for TV, is much better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 12 September, 2011, 10:45:09 AM
20 elite Indonesian cops work their way up a 30 floor drug factory controlled by a crime lord who's monitoring events on cctv. Carnage ensues. This looks looks like fun.

The Raid (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51147)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 12 September, 2011, 01:23:04 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 September, 2011, 10:45:09 AM
20 elite Indonesian cops work their way up a 30 floor drug factory controlled by a crime lord who's monitoring events on cctv. Carnage ensues. This looks looks like fun.

The Raid (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51147)

Yeah I caught that trailer. It looks very Elite Squad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb-rUfBTQ1g

The director of which I think is doing the new Robocop. I think maybe the producers of Dredd may have seen Elite Squad too, which could have influenced the direction they're going with the movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 12 September, 2011, 05:33:40 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 September, 2011, 10:45:09 AM
20 elite Indonesian cops work their way up a 30 floor drug factory controlled by a crime lord who's monitoring events on cctv. Carnage ensues. This looks looks like fun.

The Raid (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51147)
Hmmmmm, coincidences happen but has someone been a bit naughty here.I remember reading about how Tarantino got the plot for Reservour Dogs from some Hong Kong flick -well at the end of the day everybody borrows ideas don't they
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 September, 2011, 05:35:50 PM
CraveNoir you really should look at the movie and tv thread once in a while, as you'd see that was mentioned a few days ago  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 September, 2011, 05:56:08 PM
I don't see why either camp should feel the need to rip off either side especially when both where in production round about the same time.


Having said that Attack the Block has beaten them to the use of the same conceptual setting.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 12 September, 2011, 06:00:33 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 September, 2011, 05:35:50 PM
CraveNoir you really should look at the movie and tv thread once in a while, as you'd see that was mentioned a few days ago  :o

:) Normally I do a search, but it's disabled!  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 12 September, 2011, 06:12:57 PM
Bah, that's nothing. I remember an old stallone film from around 1995, of which this 'dredd' is CLEARLY a rip off.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 September, 2011, 02:22:33 PM
I know it odd subject to bring up in this topic, as I am on break in Newquay all week enjoy the sun and strong winds!
As it was 8 hours train to there last Sunday, I was watch dvds, one is Star Trek (still brilliant film!) which I hadnt see in while. And can see that Karl Urban as McCoy, as watch him talks and acting with imagine the Judge Helmet on him, that a Dredd there! Looking forward to Dredd in a year!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 September, 2011, 02:28:05 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 13 September, 2011, 02:22:33 PMAnd can see that Karl Urban as McCoy, as watch him talks and acting with imagine the Judge Helmet on him, that a Dredd there! Looking forward to Dredd in a year!


True, it's possible, he does have Dredd-traits but we'll have to wait and see...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 15 September, 2011, 12:12:49 PM
Re: The Raid - I read the comment from The Sherman Kid but I'm a bit confused about who might have been naughty. The Raid looks good - is the suggestion that it is copying something, or that Dredd is copying it or something?

Thanks, Glenn.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 16 September, 2011, 09:52:22 AM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 15 September, 2011, 12:12:49 PM
Re: The Raid - I read the comment from The Sherman Kid but I'm a bit confused about who might have been naughty. The Raid looks good - is the suggestion that it is copying something, or that Dredd is copying it or something?

Thanks, Glenn.
I have read the Dredd script I have seen the Raid trailer -I will say no more.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MarsHottentot on 26 September, 2011, 03:46:02 PM
Scale will be key here!  Besides, if The Raid does well (which seems to be a forgone conclusion) and Dredd feels anything like it that will end up as a part of the critical short hand; certainly lazy, but ultimately beneficial.  As to whether or not they are really that much alike, I doubt it - the sensibility is very different; I don't expect to see much in the way of street martial arts in Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 29 September, 2011, 05:57:55 AM
I was watching Death Wish 3 the other day (awesome film) and it got me thinking, I think Dredd would quite suite the 70s action Grindhouse feel. It could justify having countless instalments too!

It was this scene that really did it for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFY5xMih3fo
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: weehawk on 01 October, 2011, 04:20:49 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 29 September, 2011, 05:57:55 AM
I was watching Death Wish 3 the other day (awesome film) and it got me thinking, I think Dredd would quite suite the 70s action Grindhouse feel. It could justify having countless instalments too!

Death Race 2000 comes to mind for that. ;)  John Carpenter's Assault On Precinct 13 does too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 01 October, 2011, 12:40:46 PM
Have a look at the car from the new Total Recall Film. The United Federation of Britain? Great we're the bad guys in Cinema again! Have to admit Dredd's trucks aren't as cool looking as this but they are different Films after all.

http://youtu.be/SBQmBY_ZF3c
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 05 October, 2011, 01:00:55 AM
Quote from: Fuzzed on 10 September, 2011, 11:56:26 AMAlso, I'm pretty sure it's the norm to operate under a trilogy 'contract' these days, ie, actors agreeing to return should there be more and so on. Read that somewhere, or saw an interview, or both. Might even have been here. Doesn't really guarantee sequels.

Indeed. Though if I recall correctly Chris Evans broke the record with a nine movie deal for Cap.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 05 October, 2011, 01:02:17 AM
Or maybe it was six. In either case it was a larger deal than I've ever heard of.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 October, 2011, 03:24:42 PM
11 months to go, no Teaser trailer or more photos? Mmmmm....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 07 October, 2011, 05:25:17 PM
Patience dear Goaty.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 07 October, 2011, 06:12:48 PM
Slightly worrying news from the rumour mill!

Please, not again!!!!! >:(


http://collider.com/dredd-director-editing-problems/119348/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 07 October, 2011, 07:07:20 PM
Hm.. Well..  :-X
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 07 October, 2011, 07:11:56 PM
Directors Cut anyone  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 07 October, 2011, 08:07:14 PM
At least there's the knowledge that for every Supernova there's a Superman II!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 07 October, 2011, 08:12:37 PM
Shit, that doesn't sound good. Could turn out to be a load of fuss over nothing, though - the situation could be more amicable than the article suggests.

Got to say, I was always a little dubious over the choice of Travis as director.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 October, 2011, 08:42:19 PM
Quote from: radiator on 07 October, 2011, 08:12:37 PM
Shit, that doesn't sound good. Could turn out to be a load of fuss over nothing, though - the situation could be more amicable than the article suggests.


Doubt it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fuzzed on 07 October, 2011, 08:58:16 PM
Thinking it over now I've calmed down from the initial flip out - and it was a doozy, palpitations and deer-in-headlights - I'm not going to panic since I think more of Garland than Travis. Wish there were no tensions, but if this is for real, then I'd prefer the control landing in Garland's lap. With the crew behind him, I'm sure he'll direct fine.

*will be upbeat no matter what*

Hate the bad press though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 October, 2011, 09:16:00 PM
Well it in Dark Horizons as producers wasn't happy with director's vision.

I guess it was the helmets too big?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: weehawk on 07 October, 2011, 09:29:42 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 07 October, 2011, 08:07:14 PM
At least there's the knowledge that for every Supernova there's a Superman II!

.....as well as The Adventures of Baron Munchausen. Despite all the craziness during production and post-production, it was well-recieved critically.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 October, 2011, 09:31:21 PM
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/22037/-dredd-director-forced-off-production (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/22037/-dredd-director-forced-off-production)

But it was maybe a good choice? As I means there too many shit films, and how can they let it out like that?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 October, 2011, 09:52:21 PM
Quote from: weehawk on 07 October, 2011, 09:29:42 PM.....as well as The Adventures of Baron Munchausen. Despite all the craziness during production and post-production, it was well-recieved critically.


Yeah but the director didn't get fucked off it and it was entirely Gilliam's film from start to finish. For this to happen on a film is a pretty huge deal and not at all common. It happened on the '95 film too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 07 October, 2011, 10:25:12 PM
This is terrible news for the movie, sadly. The '95 movie has already damaged the property in the eyes of the general public and this is just more of the same. Going to be a real uphill battle to get people into theaters to see it with this tag around its neck. Fuck.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 07 October, 2011, 10:34:23 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 07 October, 2011, 08:07:14 PM
At least there's the knowledge that for every Supernova there's a Superman II!

The sad part being Superman II would have been a better movie with Donner in charge.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 07 October, 2011, 10:39:44 PM
Genuinely gutted at this news. Been following this production like a hawk and have been talking it up to anyone who'll listen, confident that with the level of talent involved, the end product would be something impressive that would surprise a lot of people.

While I'm still pretty confident that Dredd 2012 wont be an absolute travesty like the Stallone version (this time they at least had a finished, solid script) the echoes of '95 are hard to ignore.

Hope the whistleblowers get slung out on their arse, though. It's monumentally unprofessional to leak something like this to the press. Feel bad for the producers. I often have to work under ndas and wouldn't dream of breaching them in a million years.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 October, 2011, 10:41:41 PM
This type of thing can end careers, don't know who's in the wrong, if anyone really is or the context of the footage dispute but it's fairly up-in-the-air now as to how the film will turn-out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 October, 2011, 10:45:26 PM
Quote from: radiator on 07 October, 2011, 10:39:44 PMHope the whistleblowers get slung out on their arse, though. It's monumentally unprofessional to leak something like this to the press. Feel bad for the producers.

It's human nature and who knows maybe they too got fucked over. I wouldn't sweat it too much, it's a miracle any film turns out good considering the amount of stars that have to align.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 07 October, 2011, 11:21:05 PM
At least it wasn't me this time  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 October, 2011, 11:34:47 PM
Time to spill the beans...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 October, 2011, 11:44:58 PM
That post-hypnotic suggestion you planted worked then, Michael?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 October, 2011, 01:05:51 AM
Uh oh.  Hey, but maybe it is better the writer has more control?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 08 October, 2011, 01:24:18 AM
Writers write. Directors direct.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2011, 01:51:46 AM
Time to bring in Uwe Boll.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 08 October, 2011, 01:54:20 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 07 October, 2011, 06:12:48 PM
Slightly worrying news from the rumour mill!

Please, not again!!!!! >:(


http://collider.com/dredd-director-editing-problems/119348/
Let's hope this will be the only major setback.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 October, 2011, 01:57:32 AM
This is disappointing. :/ I wonder if it has anything to do with the late release date? People on here made some valid aguements for that, which I happened to agree with, but you have to wonder...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2011, 01:57:38 AM
If there is truth to Garland actively seeking co-director credit with the possibility of reshoots, Dredd is in a fucked-up state at the moment.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 08 October, 2011, 02:07:38 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2011, 01:57:38 AM
If there is truth to Garland actively seeking co-director credit with the possibility of reshoots, Dredd is in a fucked-up state at the moment.
How bad was the movie that the producers decided to kick Pete Travis off of it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 October, 2011, 02:16:18 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2011, 01:57:38 AM
If there is truth to Garland actively seeking co-director credit with the possibility of reshoots, Dredd is in a fucked-up state at the moment.

Good point. I'm trying to avoid the whole knee-jerk reaction thing but I have a horrible feeling that ego is the main driver behind this. It may even be for a good reason but it still worries me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 October, 2011, 03:42:33 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 08 October, 2011, 01:24:18 AM
Writers write. Directors direct.

Well, yes, but people can write and direct a film. This way, the vision is now clear and there shouldn't be any more confusion and people not seeing eye to eye.

Still though, the fact that the director could have screwed the film up so badly that they kicked him out of the editing room is quite worrying. I am still hopeful though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 October, 2011, 08:51:30 AM
Is this another publicity ploy? Like with the first DREDD still there was a lot of neg- reaction. It got everyone talking then POW! Empire appears and all bodes well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rex The Runt on 08 October, 2011, 09:06:36 AM
Maybe the execs saw this forum and figured all the fans railing about tyre thickness and shoulder pads and figured the director totally muffed it.

Hopefully we'll get a comic relief oaf and a codpiece again!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 October, 2011, 09:20:04 AM
I think you overestimate our importance greatly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SpetsnaZ99 on 08 October, 2011, 09:24:52 AM
sounds like another Halo miss to me

get in....back of the net
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 08 October, 2011, 09:45:43 AM
Oh ffs, just heard about this. I'm totally gutted. I just want the Dredd property to have the respect it deserves. I NEED this film to be good...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 October, 2011, 09:58:01 AM
The thing is, there's a lot more at stake here than just the success of a film. A good dredd film that performs well could guarantee further films based on 2000ad characters, more revenue for Rebellion and ensure the long-term survival of 2000ad as a comic.

If it crashes and burns, we can wave goodbye to all that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 October, 2011, 10:24:59 AM
Curious to know what the creative differences actually are

(http://27.media.tumblr.com/HP9kjxCUnpg9da2n6w7ZaoONo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 08 October, 2011, 10:27:39 AM
Cheers Radiator, that's what I was trying to say but I was too cheesed off when I was writing it. I feel so lucky that we've been given a second chance, it'll be devistating if it goes wrong...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 08 October, 2011, 10:43:30 AM
http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/119/1198972p1.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 October, 2011, 10:49:19 AM
Well this is hardly good news but I believe the Producers of Bladerunner threw out Ridley Scott due to 'creative differences.' Not what we wanted to hear though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 October, 2011, 11:20:44 AM
Quote from: Futurefuzz on 08 October, 2011, 10:43:30 AM
http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/119/1198972p1.html

What the Hell does 'titular judge' mean in this article? Does it mean Urban's got man boobs?


:-*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 October, 2011, 11:31:53 AM
The character's name is in the title.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 October, 2011, 11:48:29 AM
Thanks Steven l'm now enlightened.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2011, 12:10:38 PM
Considering the older report of the writer, Garland, being present everyday on set wasn't a sign of good relations.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 08 October, 2011, 12:21:45 PM
This news doesn't make me concerned for the production. (And bear in mind I've expressed no views on any other aspect of it!)

It was always Garland, Reich and Macdonald's project. They've consistently stated their aim for the film to be a violent hard R-rated film that's true to the character. It's not like this is studio intervention. It's been their vision from the start.

There were some indications of... frustrations while shooting, especially after the Xmas break, so whatever the concerns might be, they were being addressed then. Garland, Reich and Macdonald were on set, and in spite of the hyperbole on news sites, and reading between the lines, it looks like Travis' services were no longer required after principal photography wrapped in February (maybe March. I know the second unit carried on for a bit longer). That's nearly eight months ago, with another 11 to come.

If they think it'll make the film truer to what they set out to do then I hope they do go ahead with some reshoots as clearly they didn't get some of what they wanted, and that's a surprise as Travis has good form.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 October, 2011, 12:35:39 PM
Some sort of falling out has occurred on the DREDD Film for whatever reason and none of us [except maybe Michaelvk ] were on the Film's set so your guess is as good as mine why this has happened.  :(

If there are to be re-shoots I hope it's in England. Leavesden Studio is not too far away so if their looking extras I'm available. Ugly, drunken inhabitants of MC1 would be my speciality though Useless Thug Henchmen I could manage as well. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 October, 2011, 12:39:12 PM
Makes sense CN. Let's consider classics like Blade Runner and Apocalypse Now had major problems creatively, but turned out perfect. In some cases the movie making trauma spawned books and dvd extras pulling in more revenue after movie release.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 October, 2011, 12:42:46 PM
QuoteIt's not like this is studio intervention. It's been their vision from the start.

Yes, good point.

In a lot of ways this is very different to the circumstances of the '95 film shoot. The problems with the Stallone vehicle were many - not least that the whole production was rushed, and they didn't have a solid script locked down - hence all the last-minute changes to the film's story - the tacked-on Hershey romance, Fergee surviving etc. I'm pretty sure that this is nothing like that, from the sounds of it the producers clearly didn't think that Travis was doing the material justice.

Perhaps it was Garland, Macdonald and Reich having such a clear vision of what they want the film to be is at the heart of the problem? Travis wanted to bring his own ideas into the mix and that lead to a falling out?

No matter how you dress it up, though, this is bad news.

I was hoping Dredd would be 2012's District 9. Really hope that it doesn't turn out to be 2012's Conan the Barbarian...

Hopefully we'll get an official statement/denial from the producers to clear up this mess, but I'm not holding my breath...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 October, 2011, 12:52:22 PM
No statements. I suspect the Films Producers will not want to wash their dirty linen in Public. It will be allowed to fade and be forgotten till after the Film comes out. I assume Peter Travis signed a non disclosure agreement before he made the Film so it will be All Quiet on the DREDD front.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 October, 2011, 01:00:57 PM
Surely they need to do something, though. It's been nothing but bad press from day one for this film.

As I said, I feel gutted for the producers - they seem really genuine in their attempt to make a worthwhile Dredd film, and their efforts are just being met with scorn all across the internet.

Here's hoping for a kick-ass trailer, and soon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2011, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 08 October, 2011, 12:21:45 PMIt was always Garland, Reich and Macdonald's project. They've consistently stated their aim for the film to be a violent hard R-rated film that's true to the character. It's not like this is studio intervention. It's been their vision from the start.


but that doesn't address the nature of the current problems, Travis still 'directed' the film so it will be mostly his decisions on how it was shot that now exist and if the rumours of re-shoots are true, Garland seeking co-directing credit may hint at how extensive they need to be. Asking for a share of the credit is something that really is not called for and dangerous if the material is all mostly there. You don't hire a director, sit on his back, and expect him to fuck off after the shoot. If you want it made your way, do it yourself.

No matter what way it's spun, it's not good for the film and don't be surprised if it ends up, maybe not crap, but disjointed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 October, 2011, 01:10:48 PM
It now seems rather telling that Travis was not quoted at all in the Empire magazine feature...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2011, 01:13:15 PM
Quote from: radiator on 08 October, 2011, 12:42:46 PMI was hoping Dredd would be 2012's District 9.


I never expected that much of it, Dredd as a film/concept would always be less of a surprise than D9. A Dredd film can be a great Dredd but massive cultural impact is out of it's hands.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2011, 01:15:46 PM
Quote from: radiator on 08 October, 2011, 01:10:48 PM
It now seems rather telling that Travis was not quoted at all in the Empire magazine feature...

...or even before. I'm not taking sides but there is the possibility it's not Travis but more the fault of the other side. Truth will out...eventually.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 October, 2011, 01:17:17 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 08 October, 2011, 11:20:44 AM
Quote from: Futurefuzz on 08 October, 2011, 10:43:30 AM
http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/119/1198972p1.html

What the Hell does 'titular judge' mean in this article? Does it mean Urban's got man boobs?


:-*

I think they meant titillating.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 October, 2011, 01:27:48 PM
Quote from: Stan on 08 October, 2011, 01:17:17 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 08 October, 2011, 11:20:44 AM
Quote from: Futurefuzz on 08 October, 2011, 10:43:30 AM
http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/119/1198972p1.html

What the Hell does 'titular judge' mean in this article? Does it mean Urban's got man boobs?


:-*
Hey if this all goes tits up, excuse the pun...maybe they could use all the crap out takes and
and make 'Carry on Dredd' instead ;-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2011, 01:31:21 PM
To me the rumors seem to have an anti-Garland slant so it may be some disgruntled sources leaking this. I assume Travis is still under contract to deliver the film so I'd say he's rather pissed off, not to say he's the source. This also doesn't bode well for sequels if this is the kind of influence Garland & Co have over production, why would any director worth their salt sign up to that?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 October, 2011, 01:36:24 PM
QuoteThis also doesn't bode well for sequels if this is the kind of influence Garland & Co have over production, why would any director worth their salt sign up to that?

Frankly the idea of them even having to cross that bridge seems unlikely at this point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 08 October, 2011, 01:41:14 PM
I'm not sure how valid the claims that Travis hasn't been pushed aside will turn out to be.
"Keeping up with progress via the Internet"? I'm doing that!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2011, 01:56:08 PM
As the director, if you're not in the edit-suite, you're not on the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 October, 2011, 02:11:41 PM
I think it's a bad sign that the Director they hired to direct the Film is then cut out of the editing room. Your Director has his own image of the Film he's been commissioned to shoot while on the other side the writer and Producers have THEIR own version of the Movie. That's the problem.

The Producers tend to have a monetary view of the Production ie:Box office receipts while the writer or Director may have more Artistic goals set. You can see that some sort of conflict is inevitable but usually they can sort something out but it seems this has ended in the Nuclear option-Fire the Director.

Either Peter Travis didn't understand the world of Judge Dredd at all, something I find hard to believe since he doesn't strike me as someone who'd just do the first Film offered to him and think of the Pay check or they really had totally different views of the material to begin with. How come it took them so long to figure out they weren't 'right' for each other? Either some very poor communications were taking place or they really didn't get on and that does not bode well for the DREDD Film. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MattJW on 08 October, 2011, 03:10:40 PM
But, creative differences or not, we have heard lots of good things about this Dredd film. The footage is in the can and it just needs to be pieced together. It's not like the director was fired halfway through, with someone else coming in to carry on shooting, a la Superman II (still a good film) and The Wolf Man.

As already noted, Blade Runner was tinkered with by the studio but I love the theatrical cut.

As long as Travis's work has created good scenes and visuals, things should be alright, providing the producers etc cut it in such a way that the movie retains artistic merit.

There is always the chance that a good director will come in to film a few bits and pieces to add to the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 08 October, 2011, 03:29:35 PM
Oh dear.

Is this a case of a director trying to fix a bad script or producers trying to fix a bad director?  Or a bit of both?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: weehawk on 08 October, 2011, 05:56:26 PM
Quote from: radiator on 08 October, 2011, 12:42:46 PM
QuoteIt's not like this is studio intervention. It's been their vision from the start.

I was hoping Dredd would be 2012's District 9. Really hope that it doesn't turn out to be 2012's Conan the Barbarian[/i]...


Well, I actually very much liked this year's Conan The Barbarian. Maybe not a "great" film, but not the abomination it was made out to be, either. I feel certain a director's or extended cut will make more justice to it. The film felt like an 80's Marvel comic of Savage Sword of Conan written by Roy Thomas or Michael Fleischer. That's how the film worked for me.

So, anyway, I, personally, could think of worse for Dredd than to turn out like CTB(2011).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2011, 06:10:52 PM
Quote from: weehawk on 08 October, 2011, 05:56:26 PMSo, anyway, I, personally, could think of worse for Dredd than to turn out like CTB(2011).


There's optimism for ya.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 October, 2011, 06:28:11 PM
I still feel that the more control Alex Garland has the better the film will turn out. He has a good track record and is clearly eager to make a good film.

Pete Travis' previous films are shit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: clavell on 08 October, 2011, 06:33:10 PM
This is always a bad sign, especially if they end up doing reshoots, but there's a bit of hope. It usually means the direstor hasn't covered all the "marketable points" they want - like a comedy sidekick, a love interest, and a heart warming message. That would mean there is actually a good film to be had from what was shot. We'll just have to wait for the bland theatrical cut to fail, then get a rushed DVD, then finally a "director's cut". Either way, it does't look like they expect a good box office, and are trying to "fix" the film.

- C
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 October, 2011, 06:34:31 PM
QuoteI still feel that the more control Alex Garland has the better the film will turn out. He has a good track record and is clearly eager to make a good film.

Pete Travis' previous films are shit.

Agreed. I'd be a damn sight more worried if it were Garland, Macdonald and Reich (who between them have created some of my favourite films) getting sidelined.

I haven't seen anything Travis has worked on previously (except for the episodes of Cold Feet he directed), so can't comment on his work, though a lot of people seem to really hate Vantage Point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2011, 06:36:03 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 October, 2011, 06:28:11 PMPete Travis' previous films are shit.


Omagh is not a shit film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 October, 2011, 06:38:41 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2011, 06:36:03 PM


Omagh is not a shit film.
[/quote]

OK, granted, I haven't seen that one, but Vantage Point and Endgame are awful. So considering his best film is a tv movie (according to IMDb) I stand by my previous point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2011, 06:41:07 PM
Quote from: clavell on 08 October, 2011, 06:33:10 PM
This is always a bad sign, especially if they end up doing reshoots, but there's a bit of hope. It usually means the direstor hasn't covered all the "marketable points" they want - like a comedy sidekick, a love interest, and a heart warming message.

That doesn't apply to this film and the director doesn't 'cover' those points, the script does which would be Garland's job. The problems are probably the style and tone of what Travis was shooting in accordance with the script and how he intended for it to cut but that was what he was hired to do.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2011, 06:44:53 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 October, 2011, 06:38:41 PM
OK, granted, I haven't seen that one, but Vantage Point and Endgame are awful. So considering his best film is a tv movie (according to IMDb) I stand by my previous point.


Not really, TV movie or not it's only a matter of budget that separates them -it got a cinema release internationally- Omagh is a better feature script to work from than the others so maybe the problems are down to Garland?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 October, 2011, 08:33:42 PM
Really enjoyed Vantage Point,...Travis handles high octane action really well. Hope they let him complete his job and vision on DREDD.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 October, 2011, 08:52:14 PM
According to some online Wiki reports Pete Travis originally wanted to be a Social worker. Not the best man perhaps to shoot a Movie about a violent Authority figure then. His other Films [Vantage Point,End Game] are Political thrillers with some underlying conspiracy at their heart.

Pete Travis seems to be more a real world, Politically motivated Film maker rather than someone who would take to Militarized Science Fiction. You could argue that Judge Dredd is a Fascist and therefore has some sort of political backdrop to the story ie: Authority v's Freedom but  Politics isn't the first thing that springs to mind when you think about old stony face.

A Film version of America would have been more to his liking. Perhaps DNA and Pete Travis really didn't understand one and other and it was just that their schedules happened to coincide.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2011, 09:09:11 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 October, 2011, 08:52:14 PM
According to some online Wiki reports Pete Travis originally wanted to be a Social worker. Not the best man perhaps to shoot a Movie about a violent Authority figure then.

We've all had different roles in our lives, they don't all define us.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 October, 2011, 09:17:05 PM
Amen to That Mr. Soap.

Heads up to the Star Trek reboot on the box, Urban nails Bones,...shame about Pegg though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 08 October, 2011, 09:23:14 PM
Don't Panic!Don't Panic! (Watch Dad Army for guidance)
There is a LONG time before the release date, so plenty of space to correct what is required.Garland says he grew up with Dredd ,so frankly I have far more faith in his view and the other producers than I do of Pete Travis.There is a passion from them to get this right  ,which was apparent from the start in their interviews, so I don't think they will make the mistake of making a disjointed film.Fingers crossed
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2011, 09:27:40 PM
It all depends on what Travis' contract says. Was he required to stick around for post-prod or solely hired for the shoot?

As for there being a long time before it's released, it all depends on how any reshoots conflict with Urban's schedule if he's needed elsewhere like he is on Star Trek next year.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 08 October, 2011, 10:02:46 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 08 October, 2011, 09:23:14 PM
Don't Panic!Don't Panic! (Watch Dad Army for guidance)
There is a LONG time before the release date, so plenty of space to correct what is required.Garland says he grew up with Dredd ,so frankly I have far more faith in his view and the other producers than I do of Pete Travis.There is a passion from them to get this right  ,which was apparent from the start in their interviews, so I don't think they will make the mistake of making a disjointed film.Fingers crossed

Agreed
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 October, 2011, 11:04:59 PM
Quote from: clavell on 08 October, 2011, 06:33:10 PM
This is always a bad sign, especially if they end up doing reshoots, but there's a bit of hope. It usually means the direstor hasn't covered all the "marketable points" they want - like a comedy sidekick, a love interest, and a heart warming message. That would mean there is actually a good film to be had from what was shot. We'll just have to wait for the bland theatrical cut to fail, then get a rushed DVD, then finally a "director's cut". Either way, it does't look like they expect a good box office, and are trying to "fix" the film.

- C

If there would be reshoots, I'd know about it, especially if it came down here. Haven't heard anything about any reshoots.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 08 October, 2011, 11:27:03 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 08 October, 2011, 11:04:59 PM
Quote from: clavell on 08 October, 2011, 06:33:10 PM
This is always a bad sign, especially if they end up doing reshoots, but there's a bit of hope. It usually means the direstor hasn't covered all the "marketable points" they want - like a comedy sidekick, a love interest, and a heart warming message. That would mean there is actually a good film to be had from what was shot. We'll just have to wait for the bland theatrical cut to fail, then get a rushed DVD, then finally a "director's cut". Either way, it does't look like they expect a good box office, and are trying to "fix" the film.

- C

If there would be reshoots, I'd know about it, especially if it came down here. Haven't heard anything about any reshoots.

Probably way too early to even think about them yet. No doubt actors' schedules need to be looked at.

So curious to know what went wrong when they started looking at the movie put together. I know looking at dailies there's no real way to judge how the movie's going to look.

Was it the performances? Not enough intensity to the action scenes? The tone the producers wanted not coming through properly?

I didn't think much of Vantage Point myself, but it was more down to script stuff than Travis' abilities. He seems more than capable of dealing with the action elements.

I would hope they'll all get back on the same page and either bring Travis back to finish what he started or at the very least bring someone else in as a directing consultant to steady the ship. As good a writer as Garland is and as clearly enthusiastic as he is about Dredd, I get bad chills thinking about leaving this tidy-up to someone with no directorial experience. Even seasoned professionals would tell you how unpleasant it is to have to try address creative differences after a movie's wrapped shooting.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 09 October, 2011, 11:29:59 AM
If there's going to be re-shoots I demand a place as an extra.

I'm ready for my close up Mr/Mrs-insert name of director here-

and my lines;-

"Drokk!"

"Aaaarghh!"

Ultimately there's nothing any of us can do about it. Hollywood isn't going to be worried about a few nervous types on a forum.

Travis has probably fallen out with the money men and they say what goes cos making films is a business not art as so many europeans wrongly think, which is why the US still has a film industry and we don't.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 09 October, 2011, 11:39:24 AM
Pete is a very soft spoken nice bloke, and is no doubt is very good at what he does. However somehow it strikes me that he was there because they technically needed a director, because the producers were so passionate about the project. Now this, at least in my experience in SA, is unique. Usually the producers I've seen just hum and har about the money being spent.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 October, 2011, 12:20:53 PM

You're right Mick, Travis was hired as a technical craftsman, tell the crew how to set up, when to go, gather the required footage. His contract may not have strictly required him to be there for the edit, if it did he was only fulfilling his obligation while Garland & Co. are pushing for something other.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fuzzed on 09 October, 2011, 12:40:44 PM
So you're saying it might not be in Travis' contract to do post edit? So this hullaballoo could be absolutely nothing - simply some people not in the know, who noticed Travis wasn't around, and decided it was DRAMA! and took it to the press?

That's quite reassuring.

I don't know much about the film world and always assumed the director was involved in everything. Never knew he could be just asked to shoot and not put together. That could also explain earlier lack of talk from him re Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 October, 2011, 01:34:29 PM
Why would they then announce it in such a way that it sounds like Pete Travis has been thrown off the Project because he wasn't seeing eye to eye with the writer or Producers?

I guess any publicity is better than none but it seems a bit too weird to hire a Director purely to shoot the Film and then cut him out of the post production stage.

I'm sure there's far more going on behind the scenes than we know. Let's hope this will all blow over and everyone connected with the Film get's too work on the DREDD post production stage with gusto and gumpf! Soon, perhaps early next year will see the first Trailer coming along.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 09 October, 2011, 02:18:03 PM
Quote from: Zarjazzer on 09 October, 2011, 11:29:59 AM

Travis has probably fallen out with the money men and they say what goes cos making films is a business not art as so many europeans wrongly think, which is why the US still has a film industry and we don't.

Nonsense. It's both those things. In regards to cinema, you can't have one without the other.

And Europe doesn't have a film industry like the US because one is a country and the other is a continent. France has a rather lively and profitable film industry, for example. Britain (in my opinion) has made the mistake of attempting to replicate the US system and they can't for a multitude of reasons, like money, size, locations, funding, distribution (though Britain, relative to the US, probably has more talent in terms of writers, directors, actors etc!)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 09 October, 2011, 02:40:09 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 09 October, 2011, 02:18:03 PM
Quote from: Zarjazzer on 09 October, 2011, 11:29:59 AM

Travis has probably fallen out with the money men and they say what goes cos making films is a business not art as so many europeans wrongly think, which is why the US still has a film industry and we don't.

Nonsense. It's both those things. In regards to cinema, you can't have one without the other.

And Europe doesn't have a film industry like the US because one is a country and the other is a continent. France has a rather lively and profitable film industry, for example. Britain (in my opinion) has made the mistake of attempting to replicate the US system and they can't for a multitude of reasons, like money, size, locations, funding, distribution (though Britain, relative to the US, probably has more talent in terms of writers, directors, actors etc!)

Art is money. Or at least has become so now. France may indeed have a lively film industry but even with the best will and I like many French films, can't keep pace with the Fordism of Hollywood.  Britain did once have a film industry but alas it is now just handmaiden to the US of A.(as in so many other things).

After that I still hope the Dredd film does well and is as faithful as it can be to the source. Whoever directs/edits it I wish them all the best.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 09 October, 2011, 03:27:11 PM
Hmm. Well I don't think it's as clear-cut as saying 'art is money'. One requires the other and vice versa. It's a symbiotic relationship more than a parasitic one; Art and commerce make for interesting bedfellows. People would still make art even without money (though obviously there'd be a lot less of it!). Hell, just look at all the musicians in the world!  ;)

I think Hollywood is probably less stable now than it's ever been. It's all gone boom-or-bust, and it's getting to the point where a single film/investment can take down an entire studio if it doesn't succeed. I think there are often two or three parallel film 'industries' in any country which sometimes crossover. You have mainstream, Hollywood-type films, "independent" film and actual independent/underground film!

As for Dredd: this is not good news. Someone has clearly fucked up here and they have to come in and do damage control with editing/re-shoots. This will also mean the film is going to carry around a 'stink' when it comes to publicity, as people are going to be more interested in the backroom machinations than the film itself. It's more than likely going to be mentioned in every review/article on the film.

If they do have to do re-shoots, I recommend having Dredd shave!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 09 October, 2011, 03:34:37 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 09 October, 2011, 03:27:11 PMThis will also mean the film is going to carry around a 'stink' when it comes to publicity, as people are going to be more interested in the backroom machinations than the film itself. It's more than likely going to be mentioned in every review/article on the film.

This is a good point.. It might make any reference to the film start with "the troubled.."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 09 October, 2011, 04:02:40 PM
I have more faith in Alex Garland and the producers on this particular project than I do in Pete Travis even though I respect him as a director.

Vantage point didn't blow me away, But I put that down more to the nature of that script and the multiple viewpoints than anything else. The action scenes were quite good.

Andrew MacDonald and Alex Garland obviously have knowledge of the way Judge Dredd should be portrayed and I get the impression that they are seriously aiming to build a franchise on the strength of the first film. So I'm sure for them it has to be true to the comic and therefore unwatered down.

Having read Garlands script for Dredd and not hearing word one on the subject from Travis, I'm still confident that the film will work..


Bring on the re-shoots if that's what it'll take.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 09 October, 2011, 05:18:21 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 09 October, 2011, 04:02:40 PM
I have more faith in Alex Garland and the producers on this particular project than I do in Pete Travis even though I respect him as a director.

Fair enough. But it's these same producers who made the decisions that led to this situation. If Travis wasn't right for the project, they shouldn't have hired him in the first place. To let it get to this stage in the process and shake things up to this degree kind of shows that the producers are the ones at fault here more than anyone else. They don't have control of the film that they've invested millions into.

Saying that, Garland may indeed be the right man to take over. Maybe he'll seek some directorial advice from his ol' buddy Danny Boyle. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 09 October, 2011, 05:43:50 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 October, 2011, 08:52:14 PM
According to some online Wiki reports Pete Travis originally wanted to be a Social worker. Not the best man perhaps to shoot a Movie about a violent Authority figure then.
Holy shit! I originally wanted to be a cosmonaut. Does that make my object modelling rubbish?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 09 October, 2011, 06:41:34 PM
Just because Pete Travis has now gone- doesnt mean to say that what he worked on was rubbish (quality wise)
If Alex and Andrew were on set everyday, then if Pete was turning in something not up to par he wouldn't have lasted the shoot- let alone up until now. I doubt its the footage thats the problem.

What it could mean is something someone touched upon a page or so back- Pete may be working the edit to be one sort of movie, whereas Alex may want something more from it- it might just be a difference of pace, for instance. Pete may have wanted a bit more depth, Alex may be wanting a more full on Bourne.

Its a surprise- and certainly opens up the event to lots of speculation. ....




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 09 October, 2011, 06:47:17 PM
If anything it's got people talking again..

..waaaaaiiiit a sec..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 09 October, 2011, 07:10:21 PM
They should have a shoot out ala War Games Prog 51 and see who wins.   ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 October, 2011, 07:25:47 PM
It could all be part of some elaborate conspiracy by the Film makers to get everyone gossiping about the Film but I doubt it. They've had a severe difference of opinion. What can we do to influence that -zilch. Whoever is going to get the Final edit of the Film has it tough enough already.

I assume we'll know if it's a very serious falling out when some Law suit is filed in Court.  I hope relationships didn't get that bad between all the creators involved.

The Law, ironically might eventually decide whats going to happen in the end.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 09 October, 2011, 09:12:48 PM
Has anyone thought the because DREDD is going to be so fucking arsom that Garland want co producer in the credits.






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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 09 October, 2011, 09:46:32 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 09 October, 2011, 09:12:48 PM
Has anyone thought the because DREDD is going to be so fucking arsom that Garland want co producer in the credits.






V

No. But I do now. But that's because I'm a "the glass is half -what? " kind of a goblin. Chances are it will be ultra-arsom.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: brendan1 on 09 October, 2011, 09:59:58 PM
This is really terrible news. Usually this type of "Director removed from edit" results in a hideous, bloody cinematic abortion that nobody wants to take parental responsibility for.

I fear the worst. Mind you, having read the script, I was never "fearing the best".

Oh please, just give me a great Dredd movie that makes LOTS of money for all concerned, esp Rebellion.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 09 October, 2011, 10:06:58 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 09 October, 2011, 09:12:48 PM
Has anyone thought the because DREDD is going to be so fucking arsom that Garland want co producer in the credits.






V

From my understanding he is co-producer..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 09 October, 2011, 10:18:55 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 09 October, 2011, 10:06:58 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 09 October, 2011, 09:12:48 PM
Has anyone thought the because DREDD is going to be so fucking arsom that Garland want co producer in the credits.

From my understanding he is co-producer..
GAAAHHHH. I meant co-director.




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 October, 2011, 10:24:35 PM
Quote from: brendan1 on 09 October, 2011, 09:59:58 PM

I fear the worst. Mind you, having read the script, I was never "fearing the best".

Oh please, just give me a great Dredd movie that makes LOTS of money for all concerned, esp Rebellion.

I thought the script was pretty spot on.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 09 October, 2011, 10:38:33 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 October, 2011, 07:25:47 PM
It could all be part of some elaborate conspiracy by the Film makers to get everyone gossiping about the Film but I doubt it. They've had a severe difference of opinion. What can we do to influence that -zilch. Whoever is going to get the Final edit of the Film has it tough enough already.

I assume we'll know if it's a very serious falling out when some Law suit is filed in Court.  I hope relationships didn't get that bad between all the creators involved.

The Law, ironically might eventually decide whats going to happen in the end.

This is NOT what anyone wants as publicity for their movie...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 09 October, 2011, 11:44:08 PM
So last week my home IP# gets banned for some reason and then THIS happens.

Coincidence?

Or Sc*j*?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 10 October, 2011, 09:26:02 AM
QuoteHas anyone thought the because DREDD is going to be so fucking arsom that Garland want co producer in the credits.

Lots of films look like they're going to be fucking arsom. Somehow, though, on none of them do you see writers and others trying to attach their names to them as co-director.

Seriously, there's no way - despite some utter bollocks-spouting attempts here - that you can spin this into looking like anything other than a Very bad Thing for the film's prospects.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 10 October, 2011, 09:28:58 AM
Still you have to find a silver lining somewhere otherwise you may as well write it off now.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 October, 2011, 09:29:50 AM
Anyone knows what Sc*j*'s comments on it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 10 October, 2011, 09:36:59 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 10 October, 2011, 09:29:50 AM
Anyone knows what Sc*j*'s comments on it?

He's crowing about it on the scojo-destroyed wasteland that is alt.comics.2000ad. Naturally, it's all the fault of the script, and the producers should have used a proper Dredd script (i.e. his) instead.

I'm also fairly sure he's 'bleedcool' on the comments section of the Bleeding Cool story on this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 10 October, 2011, 09:56:04 AM
Over on gallifreybase, after spamming the movie threads for months with his photoshop abominations, he's now taking a somewhat gleeful approach to this turn of events.

Sadly, such is his impact, that talk of the mooted Rogue Trooper movie immediately turned into a discussion about how soon the thread would get clogged with bad photshoppery and discussions about helmets.

He haunts the prog thread, in his usual manner and is 'the face of fandom' it seems to the site's tens of thousands of users.

Equally sadly, over there putting endless photoshops up is fine, slagging him off is not. Many times people have been modded for having a go, while he continues ever onward.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 10 October, 2011, 10:38:08 AM
Chin up! Only eleven months until we find out for sure. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Meathook on 10 October, 2011, 10:39:19 AM
Mein Gott! It's Alan Smithee all over again.................Drokk!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 10 October, 2011, 10:52:13 AM
God, I'm really depressed about this.

After staying resolutely optimistic about this film throughout all the naysaying about the helmet, shoulder pads, Lawnmaster shots, Justice Department vans and everything else, I've finally admitted to myself; It's going to be shit isn't it?

Again.

For fuck's sake, can't we Dredd fans catch a break?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 October, 2011, 11:06:45 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/kWSRO.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 10 October, 2011, 11:15:18 AM
Cool piccy Goaty

Oh! These negative waves!

Think of how beautiful and great and arsom the film might be. It's not a fatal blow like they've run out of dosh or the distributors have gone belly up.

None of us know yet unless someone has gone to the future and seen it.

It may indeed be three Tigers versus one Sherman but the Shermans ultimately won.

This positivity is brought to you by the cosmic overmind maahnnn*



*Cosmic overmind does not guarantee no movie suck.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 10 October, 2011, 11:40:43 AM
Quote from: GordonR on 10 October, 2011, 09:26:02 AM
QuoteHas anyone thought the because DREDD is going to be so fucking arsom that Garland want co producer in the credits.

Lots of films look like they're going to be fucking arsom. Somehow, though, on none of them do you see writers and others trying to attach their names to them as co-director.

Seriously, there's no way - despite some utter bollocks-spouting attempts here - that you can spin this into looking like anything other than a Very bad Thing for the film's prospects.

Gone With the Wind,
Blade Runner,
Brazil,
Apocalypse Now,
American History X

All had problems during production/ post production,  but  turned out to be great films. The list goes on and on, its sometimes just part of the process.

I'm not going to make  up my mind until I see some solid evidence i.e a trailer...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 10 October, 2011, 12:08:09 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 10 October, 2011, 11:40:43 AM


I'm not going to make  up my mind until I see some solid evidence i.e a trailer...

Hey! We'll have less if that logical, reasoned and common sense approach around here, thank you very much!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 10 October, 2011, 12:18:31 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 10 October, 2011, 12:08:09 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 10 October, 2011, 11:40:43 AM


I'm not going to make  up my mind until I see some solid evidence i.e a trailer...

Hey! We'll have less if that logical, reasoned and common sense approach around here, thank you very much!

We're all doomed I tell you! DOOOOOOOOMED!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 10 October, 2011, 12:23:12 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 10 October, 2011, 12:18:31 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 10 October, 2011, 12:08:09 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 10 October, 2011, 11:40:43 AM


I'm not going to make  up my mind until I see some solid evidence i.e a trailer...

Hey! We'll have less if that logical, reasoned and common sense approach around here, thank you very much!

We're all doomed I tell you! DOOOOOOOOMED!!!
That's more like it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 October, 2011, 12:31:12 PM
Interesting to note that Empire have still yet to report the news...

Are they deliberately avoiding it as to not piss off Macdonald and co (who they seem to be on good terms with) or to save face following their big exclusive?

Or are they waiting on an official response from the producers, put out something proper rather than just rehash some rumours? I'm keeping my eyes on the site in any case...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 10 October, 2011, 12:43:49 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 10 October, 2011, 12:08:09 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 10 October, 2011, 11:40:43 AM


I'm not going to make  up my mind until I see some solid evidence i.e a trailer...

Hey! We'll have less if that logical, reasoned and common sense approach around here, thank you very much!

But he forgot to mention Star Wars (none of the cast understood the script, and the early special effects were a disaster), Jaws (the robot shark didn't work, and shooting went months over-schedule), Aliens (Cameron and his British crew developed a strong relationship of mutual loathing) and The Godfather (the studio came close several times to firing Coppolla off the movie).

There is also a far larger and considerably more ignominious list of films that parted company with their directors well into production, and suffered accordingly.

Which is Dredd? I guess we'll find out next year, but my point was that it's fairly idiotic to try and spin what's happened as a Good Thing, when it's quite clearly not.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 10 October, 2011, 12:51:53 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 October, 2011, 12:31:12 PM
Interesting to note that Empire have still yet to report the news...

Are they deliberately avoiding it as to not piss off Macdonald and co (who they seem to be on good terms with) or to save face following their big exclusive?

Or are they waiting on an official response from the producers, put out something proper rather than just rehash some rumours? I'm keeping my eyes on the site in any case...

The LA Times Hollywood section seems to have been the first reputable source to run the story.

In journalistic terms, LA Times > Empire.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2011/10/director-drama-heats-up-on-dredd.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2011/10/director-drama-heats-up-on-dredd.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buddy on 10 October, 2011, 12:55:22 PM
I think it's now pretty clear as to why the film has such a late release date.

I never did believe the official line of 'waiting for the right time to release'... that's all well and good but to wait almost 18 months after the film finished shooting is taking the piss.

As I said at the time, if a studio is putting back the release date of a film 9 times outta 10 it's because they are not happy with what they have got and re shoots/re writes are required to 'fix' it.

No studio shelves a film when it could be out there making money. Especially with the ever increasing fall out with 3D, leaving the Dredd release date until late next year could further decrease the films popularity in the cinema.

This film needs released as soon as possible, fix what needs to be fixed and get it out there.

Lets hope they do manage to fix it and it doesn't go straight to DVD.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 10 October, 2011, 01:06:42 PM
maybe Garland didn't like the more near future take of Travis and wanted more flying cars put in. The extra time is needed in FX to spice it up a bit..
we can hope :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 10 October, 2011, 01:25:58 PM
There will be no flying Cars in this DREDD movie. Too expensive and it's the early DREDD when Justice Department has just been established so it's not to far from where we are today. Bikes, Cars will be firmly grounded.

Grounded appears to be the fate of the Movie at this moment but let's try to look on the bright side.

They've recognized there is a problem that has led to the departure of Pete Travis. We have no idea what that problem is or was but better to find out now rather than 2 weeks before the Films release date.

That gives the Producers and Alex Garland according to some press releases just less than a year to do whatever they believe is necessary to make the Film work or make it more faithful to their idea of what DREDD is about. If it's re shoots then that's how it has to be.

Pretty depressing when it seemed to be going so well and looked very impressive from the few stills we've seen from the set. Let's hope like other Movies that seem to go all pear shaped [Casablanca was one such Film] that something worthwhile comes out of this unhappy time. 

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 10 October, 2011, 01:28:45 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 10 October, 2011, 01:25:58 PM
There will be no flying Cars in this DREDD movie. Too expensive and it's the early DREDD when Justice Department has just been established so it's not to far from where we are today. Bikes, Cars will be firmly grounded.
That was kinda the point ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 10 October, 2011, 01:28:57 PM
Quote from: GordonR on 10 October, 2011, 12:43:49 PM

I guess we'll find out next year, but my point was that it's fairly idiotic to try and spin what's happened as a Good Thing, when it's quite clearly not.
[/quote]

Don't think anybody is really saying it's a good thing ,just trying to take some crumbs of comfort and any signs of hope whilst possibly watching our dreams being nuked.The producers are quality and if anybody can turn this around ,they can.I believe...!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 October, 2011, 02:17:03 PM
QuoteThe LA Times Hollywood section seems to have been the first reputable source to run the story.

In journalistic terms, LA Times > Empire.

Not really sure what point you're making - I was merely pointing out that it seemed curious that Empire (probably the biggest UK movie news site out there, and one with unique links to Dredd) have yet to mention this news story and speculating why that might be.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 October, 2011, 02:18:46 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 October, 2011, 02:17:03 PM
Not really sure what point you're making - I was merely pointing out that it seemed curious that Empire (probably the biggest UK movie news site out there, and one with unique links to Dredd) have yet to mention this news story and speculating why that might be.

Maybe in next mag? Or everythings that happens last few days was just a rumour, no Fact?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 10 October, 2011, 01:06:42 PM
maybe Garland didn't like the more near future take of Travis and wanted more flying cars put in. The extra time is needed in FX to spice it up a bit..
we can hope :)


No, all the major aesthetic decisions would have been made in pre-production and part of Garland's intentions for the look.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 02:23:26 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 October, 2011, 02:17:03 PM
I was merely pointing out that it seemed curious that Empire (probably the biggest UK movie news site out there, and one with unique links to Dredd) have yet to mention this news story and speculating why that might be.


I don't think Empire matters a jot at this point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 10 October, 2011, 04:44:45 PM
From one of the stories on the Dredd movie:

QuoteIn related news, The LA Times also reveal that Jim Sheridan requested his name be removed from the credits of flop horror Dream House. The Oscar-nominated director reportedly approached the Directors Guild of America this summer, as he was so displeased with the Daniel Craig-starring thriller. The studio, Morgan Creek, released their own edit of the film following reshoots. The film opened to poor reviews, following a baffling promo campaign which included a spoiler-filled trailer. It opens in the UK this November.

Maybe Alex Garland can put his name on the director credit for that one instead (or as well)...

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fuzzed on 10 October, 2011, 06:25:33 PM
It seems terribly unfair to start laying blame or start badmouthing any of the people involved when all we have is a very vague report. It may be a reputable paper, but it's still vague and uncollaborated.

Once we get a statement from the folks concerned or any form of confirmation then giddyup, fire and brimstone, but until then, we really don't have a clue who to tar and feather, do we? Intelligent guessing is still guessing.

I like Garland's work. There's intelligence and humour in his scripts (and no, I haven't seen the leaked Dredd script and don't want to) so in my opinion, this alleged situation, if true, could be so much worse than him landing the directorship.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 10 October, 2011, 07:50:57 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2011/10/director-drama-heats-up-on-dredd.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2011/10/director-drama-heats-up-on-dredd.html)

There's the link to the LA times article. Mentioning films like Prince of Persia and G.I. Joe as recent examples where this happened. And using a pic from the 1995 film to boot :-X
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 10 October, 2011, 08:03:26 PM
They seem as almost as dissapointed at said events as the rest of us.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 10 October, 2011, 08:15:03 PM
I'd not put toooo much weight on the article.. Considering they also refer to it as a remake of the 95 movie..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 08:15:15 PM
This was always Garland's vehicle, Travis was only brought in as a technical director to facilitate Garland with footage gathering. If the rumours are true, maybe those 'boundaries' became blurred as Travis realised he may get shafted, for whatever reasons. If it fails, a lot of the blame should lie with Garland. The 'leak' feels as though it was deliberately released to provoke and no official statement has come forth.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 October, 2011, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 08:15:15 PM
This was always Garland's vehicle, Travis was only brought in as a technical director to facilitate Garland with footage gathering. If the rumours are true, maybe those 'boundaries' became blurred as Travis realised he may get shafted, for whatever reasons. If it fails, a lot of the blame should lie with Garland. The 'leak' feels as though it was deliberately released to provoke and no official statement has come forth.

Interesting, as most of your posts on this thread just blame on Garland? You dont like him?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 08:25:27 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 10 October, 2011, 08:20:44 PMInteresting, as most of your posts on this thread just blame on Garland? You dont like him?


I don't know him or care much but if the rumours of seeking a co-directing credit are true, he's pretty much an ego-maniac, especially if he only sought for his director to act like a stooge thorugh the shoot and post-prod.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 10 October, 2011, 08:33:28 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 08:25:27 PM

I don't know him or care much but if the rumours of seeking a co-directing credit are true, he's pretty much an ego-maniac, especially if he only sought for his director to act like a stooge thorugh the shoot and post-prod.

I think the magic word there is 'rumours'.

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 08:40:37 PM
Quote from: SKD on 10 October, 2011, 08:33:28 PMI think the magic word there is 'rumours'.

Stew.

and if you read my previous post I think you'll find I emphasised that in the first place.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 10 October, 2011, 09:06:54 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 08:25:27 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 10 October, 2011, 08:20:44 PMInteresting, as most of your posts on this thread just blame on Garland? You dont like him?


I don't know him or care much but if the rumours of seeking a co-directing credit are true, he's pretty much an ego-maniac, especially if he only sought for his director to act like a stooge thorugh the shoot and post-prod.

The updated statement on the link says specifically that Garland is NOT seeking a co-director credit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 09:26:11 PM
I don't think he would legally be allowed to claim it even if he did want it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 09:28:29 PM
Update, 12:23 pm. Monday: Travis and Garland released a joint statement that read, "During all stages of the filmmaking, 'Dredd' has been a collaboration between a number of dedicated creative parties.  From the outset we decided on an unorthodox collaboration to make the film.  This situation has been misinterpreted.  To set the record straight, Pete was not fired and remains a central part of the collaboration, and Alex is not seeking a co-director credit.  We are all extremely proud of the film we have made, and respectfully suggest that it is judged on viewing when its released next year."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 October, 2011, 09:31:31 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 09:28:29 PM
Update, 12:23 pm. Monday: Travis and Garland released a joint statement that read, "During all stages of the filmmaking, 'Dredd' has been a collaboration between a number of dedicated creative parties.  From the outset we decided on an unorthodox collaboration to make the film.  This situation has been misinterpreted.  To set the record straight, Pete was not fired and remains a central part of the collaboration, and Alex is not seeking a co-director credit.  We are all extremely proud of the film we have made, and respectfully suggest that it is judged on viewing when its released next year."

Then it still ok! :) relax everyone! No panic!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 10 October, 2011, 09:32:00 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 09:28:29 PM
Update, 12:23 pm. Monday: Travis and Garland released a joint statement that read, "During all stages of the filmmaking, 'Dredd' has been a collaboration between a number of dedicated creative parties.  From the outset we decided on an unorthodox collaboration to make the film.  This situation has been misinterpreted.  To set the record straight, Pete was not fired and remains a central part of the collaboration, and Alex is not seeking a co-director credit.  We are all extremely proud of the film we have made, and respectfully suggest that it is judged on viewing when its released next year."
What do you think? Damage control or the truth?
I can buy it to a certain degree and maybe Alex is still involved in a reduced capacity and that was the plan all along.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 10 October, 2011, 09:33:57 PM
I kept the faith from the start and will keep doing until the date of the release and proof will then be in the pudding.
At least it got us nuts sounding off and gave us something to feed on.






V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 09:36:12 PM
It doesn't reveal anything but Alex & DNA are the driving force behind this film, final cut is theirs since they are producing it, not Pete's. If Pete had a co-producer credit on the film it would be different. Producers hold the power.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 10 October, 2011, 09:36:49 PM
I suppose it's not much different than being a producer on a TV show and hiring directors to helm your episodes. Work-for-hire, do your job and then let the people in charge do what they want with what you've shot. Very much how it happens here on FG, for example but wasn't aware it happens on features that much.

I think I'm more confused by the joint statement than anything else I've read so far. Hard to tell if it's just a saving face damage limitation or whether it is as they say. I take some heart from it if that's the arrangement they made between themselves though.

In saying that though it's a shame this sorry affair was made public in the first place. Nobody cares about clarifications after the headlines come out...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 10 October, 2011, 09:47:47 PM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 10 October, 2011, 09:32:00 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 09:28:29 PM
Update, 12:23 pm. Monday: Travis and Garland released a joint statement that read, "During all stages of the filmmaking, 'Dredd' has been a collaboration between a number of dedicated creative parties.  From the outset we decided on an unorthodox collaboration to make the film.  This situation has been misinterpreted.  To set the record straight, Pete was not fired and remains a central part of the collaboration, and Alex is not seeking a co-director credit.  We are all extremely proud of the film we have made, and respectfully suggest that it is judged on viewing when its released next year."
What do you think? Damage control or the truth?
I can buy it to a certain degree and maybe Alex is still involved in a reduced capacity and that was the plan all along.

I'm thinking the traditional stanzas of film-making are shifting constantly. It's been a lot about pastiches since the 60's. Now , maybe the environment with Dredd is a new NEW approach. With minds like Garland AND Travis wanting to experiment with the medium and finding Dredd the perfect property on which to do so. It's low budget, the company men are seeing what the like going into their pockets and the rest is up to the creative team at their loss. It's very much in the same vein as 2000ad itself. We've got the likes of Vaughn, who self-produced Kick Ass having the same independent attitude. Even with all the post public viewing and intake remarks from people who stick by the big bucks marketeers philosophy, there's no denying there're a definite group of Idealist Realist film makers out there who want a go at showing a new vision of the medium they love. No harm in that. The only downside is another shit self indulgent film pandering to the a; corporative mega-glyphs. Or b; the creative team and their ideologies.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 10 October, 2011, 09:48:50 PM
 So we got all riled up for nowt?  What a palarva.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 09:51:26 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 10 October, 2011, 09:36:49 PM
I suppose it's not much different than being a producer on a TV show and hiring directors to helm your episodes. Work-for-hire, do your job and then let the people in charge do what they want with what you've shot. Very much how it happens here on FG, for example but wasn't aware it happens on features that much.




It happens more than you think. Usually with big directors like Cameron, Spielberg, Nolan et al. they are co-producers and have contributed money to their productions which allows them more power over the outcome. Producers rule Hollywood and the films you see brought to screen are the ones producers have interest in seeing out there with their name on it but they have no interest in acutally slogging it out for 12 hours a day on a set with the grunts. Producers are morepowerful than directors and can have the ego to match, some consider themselves artists too. Bruckheimer & Simpson were the epitome of this grand-standing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 10 October, 2011, 09:53:35 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 09:51:26 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 10 October, 2011, 09:36:49 PM
I suppose it's not much different than being a producer on a TV show and hiring directors to helm your episodes. Work-for-hire, do your job and then let the people in charge do what they want with what you've shot. Very much how it happens here on FG, for example but wasn't aware it happens on features that much.




It happens more than you think. Usually with big directors like Cameron, Spielberg, Nolan et al. they are co-producers and have contributed money to their productions which allows them more power over the outcome. Producers rule Hollywood and the films you see brought to screen are the ones producers have interest in seeing out there with their name on it but they have no interest in acutally slogging it out for 12 hours a day on a set with the grunts. Producers are morepowerful than directors and can have the ego to match, some consider themselves artists too. Bruckheimer & Simpson were the epitome of this grand-standing.

Its what could be said is happening with The Walking Dead and the entire backlog of ABC's stuff.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 10 October, 2011, 09:54:40 PM
I think the real statement is plain to see:

Quote
Update, 12:23 pm. Monday: Travis and Garland released a joint statement that read, "During all stages of the filmmaking, 'Dredd' has been a collaboration between a number of dedicated creative parties.  From the outset we decided on an unorthodox collaboration to make the film.  This situation has been misinterpreted.  To set the record straight, Pete was not fired and remains a central part of the collaboration, and Alex is not seeking a co-director credit.  We are all extremely proud of the film we have made, and respectfully suggest that it is judged on viewing when tits released next year."

:D

SBT








Note: I am JOKING. I'm sure all is fine!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 October, 2011, 10:03:37 PM
"Help its all gone tits"?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 10:05:09 PM
Quote from: Futurefuzz on 10 October, 2011, 09:53:35 PMIts what could be said is happening with The Walking Dead and the entire backlog of ABC's stuff.


It's always been that way in telly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 10 October, 2011, 10:05:47 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 10 October, 2011, 10:03:37 PM
"Help its all gone tits"?

:thumbsup:

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 10:09:49 PM
Use a different colour than black next time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fuzzed on 10 October, 2011, 10:12:12 PM
I, for one, am thoroughly relieved and reassured. Going to take that joint statement at face value, because frankly, it sounds totally plausible and that hint of annoyance at the end with the 'respectfully' rings very true.

And that 'very proud of this film' just makes me very happy. I'm going to love this movie, I'm confident.

Read this article today about scientists discovering that a too optimistic brain is actually a faulty brain, but you know what? If my brain is faulty, I like it this way. Much better than sinking in dooooooooom.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 10 October, 2011, 10:15:26 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 08:40:37 PM
Quote from: SKD on 10 October, 2011, 08:33:28 PMI think the magic word there is 'rumours'.

Stew.

and if you read my previous post I think you'll find I emphasised that in the first place.

Sorry Joe, I was just reiterating the 'rumour' aspect of your statement. It was a rumour after all, that Garland was after a co-director credit. As you pointed out, there had been no official statement to either confirm or deny the stories. The rumour mill had gone into overdrive and there were people on the net writing this film off, because the director may have been excluded from part of the film making process. Now i'm not too savvy with how films are made, I don't know what sort of effect this would have on the finished movie (bad or good) Or the effect the negative conjecture would have on ticket sales in eleven months time. What I do know is, come opening weekend, I'll be there with my bucket of popcorn hoping for the best and wanting to be entertained.

Stew.

P.S. Fuck. The world has turned and 16 new replies and a statement in the time it's took me to compose my post. I'll change the tense to past n post anyway.     
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 10 October, 2011, 10:19:07 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 10:09:49 PM
Use a different colour than black next time.

Time for new eyes, Joe. The old ones are wearing out.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 October, 2011, 10:29:56 PM
I still have a couple of doubts ("Well, they would say that" did cross my mind), but the joint statement does go some way towards easing my worries.

I have spent the last few days wondering why - with so many extremely talented and experienced people on board for this movie and the evident confidence they appear to have in the end product - things could have been allowed to deteriorate to the level implied by the LA Times article.

Also may explain why Empire didn't run the 'story'.

Faith partially restored.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 October, 2011, 11:17:30 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 09:28:29 PM
Update, 12:23 pm. Monday: Travis and Garland released a joint statement that read, "During all stages of the filmmaking, 'Dredd' has been a collaboration between a number of dedicated creative parties.  From the outset we decided on an unorthodox collaboration to make the film.  This situation has been misinterpreted.  To set the record straight, Pete was not fired and remains a central part of the collaboration, and Alex is not seeking a co-director credit.  We are all extremely proud of the film we have made, and respectfully suggest that it is judged on viewing when its released next year."


Well, thank fuck for that!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 October, 2011, 11:18:40 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 10 October, 2011, 11:17:30 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 09:28:29 PM
Update, 12:23 pm. Monday: Travis and Garland released a joint statement that read, "During all stages of the filmmaking, 'Dredd' has been a collaboration between a number of dedicated creative parties.  From the outset we decided on an unorthodox collaboration to make the film.  This situation has been misinterpreted.  To set the record straight, Pete was not fired and remains a central part of the collaboration, and Alex is not seeking a co-director credit.  We are all extremely proud of the film we have made, and respectfully suggest that it is judged on viewing when its released next year."


Well, thank fuck for that!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 October, 2011, 11:22:36 PM
Makes you wonder why someone would spread such a malicious rumour though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 October, 2011, 11:52:17 PM
This is a relief.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 October, 2011, 03:43:12 AM
I know it's a bit late to be discussing good people to play dredd, but just throught Nick Nolte. He's got the chin, he's got the voice. Damn, I really wish he was now. Still, Urban looks good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SpetsnaZ99 on 11 October, 2011, 08:49:26 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2011, 09:28:29 PM
Update, 12:23 pm. Monday: Travis and Garland released a joint

share the love.... ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2011, 09:13:26 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 October, 2011, 03:43:12 AM
I know it's a bit late to be discussing good people to play dredd, but just throught Nick Nolte. He's got the chin, he's got the voice. Damn, I really wish he was now. Still, Urban looks good.


but he doesn't have the youth/health to run around a hot film set in a leather suit and helmet for 12 hours a day for a few months.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 09:27:31 AM
Finally on Empireonline;

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32186 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32186)

Judge Dredd Director Denies Firing
Pete Travis is still the law

Rumblings started coming from the LA Times last week that director Pete Travis was facing some issues in the Judge Dredd editing room and had been "asked to step aside". The news was leapt upon with glee by the fanboys who are perversely desparate for the film to fail, but Travis and screenwriter Alex Garland have now released a joint statement scotching the reports of Dredd's demise. Nothing to see here, peeps. Move along.

Anonymous LA Times sources "close to the production" had reported that there were tensions and "creative disagreements" between the producers and executives in charge of rescuing Joe Dredd from the ignominy of the Stallone film. According to the story, writer/producer Garland (28 Days Later, Sunshine) was running post-production alone, and seeking a co-director credit for his efforts. Potential reshoots were also mentioned, with a question mark over who'd man the cameras for them.

But, say Travis and Garland now, "During all stages of the filmmaking, Dredd has been a collaboration between a number of dedicated creative parties. From the outset we decided on an unorthodox collaboration to make the film. This situation has been misinterpreted. To set the record straight, Pete was not fired and remains a central part of the collaboration, and Alex is not seeking a co-director credit. We are all extremely proud of the film we have made, and respectfully suggest that it is judged on viewing when it's released next year."

The truth, or damage limitation? Are Travis and Garland the Reynolds and Costner of the 21st Century, or are they really the best of pals being misrepresented? We'll keep you updated on the drama.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 October, 2011, 09:35:55 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 09:27:31 AM
Finally on Empireonline;

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32186 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32186)

The news was leapt upon with glee by the fanboys who are perversely desparate for the film to fail, but Travis and screenwriter Alex Garland have now released a joint statement scotching the reports of Dredd's demise.


I don't understand this part, is a fan boy just a fan? Why would they think fans are desperate for the film to fail?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 11 October, 2011, 09:45:47 AM
Well, my mind has officially been put to rest. I wonder who started these rumours in the first place though...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 11 October, 2011, 09:46:45 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 October, 2011, 09:35:55 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 09:27:31 AM
Finally on Empireonline;

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32186 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32186)

The news was leapt upon with glee by the fanboys who are perversely desparate for the film to fail, but Travis and screenwriter Alex Garland have now released a joint statement scotching the reports of Dredd's demise.


I don't understand this part, is a fan boy just a fan? Why would they think fans are desperate for the film to fail?
I think there are one or two out there not vacating the board here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 09:51:08 AM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 11 October, 2011, 09:45:47 AM
Well, my mind has officially been put to rest. I wonder who started these rumours in the first place though...

Does the media think Scojo leader of the 2000AD fans?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 11 October, 2011, 09:51:38 AM
Quote from: Futurefuzz on 11 October, 2011, 09:46:45 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 October, 2011, 09:35:55 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 09:27:31 AM
Finally on Empireonline;

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32186 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32186)

The news was leapt upon with glee by the fanboys who are perversely desparate for the film to fail, but Travis and screenwriter Alex Garland have now released a joint statement scotching the reports of Dredd's demise.


I don't understand this part, is a fan boy just a fan? Why would they think fans are desperate for the film to fail?
I think there are one or two out there not vacating the board here.

I think this might just be Sc*j*'s single handed idiotic hate campaign. He's on every frigging movie website on the internet under different names slagging the film off to all and sundry.

The fucking tool.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 10:03:14 AM
Notice one of his posts;

I love JD as much as the next fan - and we've got that crappy film coming out next year (can't wait hee hee) - but I know 100 percent what is wrong with Judge Dredd

WHAT THE W**KER!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 11 October, 2011, 10:05:02 AM
its unfortunate if Empire are seeing that cunt as the voice of fandom. Can we petition them to show them it aint so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 October, 2011, 10:10:08 AM
Can you put up a link to his stuff as I can't find it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 10:11:23 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 October, 2011, 10:10:08 AM
Can you put up a link to his stuff as I can't find it.

http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/5238611/scojo_suggestion_judge_dredd_should_be_killed_off (http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/5238611/scojo_suggestion_judge_dredd_should_be_killed_off)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 11 October, 2011, 10:18:17 AM
I'm liking that you used freak search :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 October, 2011, 10:19:51 AM
Dear God, it's quite sad really.
Now that's what you get with care in the community!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 10:28:40 AM
Found his reply on the news of Director Forced off;

If this is genuine - major (if shocking) news

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/22037/-dredd-director-forced-off-production

This means the film is in major trouble. Huge creative differences similar to the 1995 film.

"Those in charge of the production apparently "did not see eye-to-eye on footage Travis was delivering".

I'm not going to gloat because I love Judge Dredd but it's people making a film with no clear vision. It's sad. I wish Rebellion had never allowed Garland's bland screenplay to have been used. Talk about uninspired. I guess the problems with the film do stem back to the screenplay and Travis wanting to stick to it or to change it and DNA and Rebellion not sure if his approach is right.

Whatever the reason the film will most likely be crappy and underperform at the box office. It's a great pity because a proper Judge Dredd film - one that embraces the material and is not embarrassed by it (and it's clear DNA Films is embarrassed by the comic character hence the changes to the uniform, removing the word Judge from the title) could be incredibl

. Sadly, Dredd is not going to be incredible. It may not even end up being mediocre.

Rebellion should have given my screenplays a chance. They were more faithful in spirit than Garland's generic Die Hard in a MC-1 block storyline. Jock emailed me not that long ago, we had a chat, and I reckon he would have been happy to have storyboarded a section of it (for a moderate fee, of course) had Rebellion given my screenplays a chance. Anyway, never mind. It wasn't to be. But it's sad to see another Judge Dredd film being ruined by people with no clear vision. Ultimately it comes down to that - a clear vision. Without that clear vision the film will end up a mess. And that seems to the case with Dredd 2012.

:(

scojo
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 11 October, 2011, 10:30:19 AM
Good on Empire for not reporting this until they actually HAD something to report. They've gone up in my estimations. Sad though how every two-bit blog that regurgitated the original rumours exaggerated it yet further.

Does kinda make you wonder why the producers didn't deny the story when the LA Times asked for a comment, though...

It's worth remembering that a movie set is a place of work, and as such there are bound to be all the usual office politics and petty disputes, sounds to me like this is one such situation that got a bit out of hand and became blown out of proportion. As others have said, it sounds like this 'story' was 'leaked' by a disgruntled crew member who has their own axe to grind.

A few years ago, my girlfriend worked on the set of an animated film which had a similar budget to Dredd. The film was made in similarly unorthodox fashion - apparently the director wasn't on-set all of the time, and often essentially directed the it from abroad, tracking progress at the set online. Needless to say, there were those among the crew who had gripes about this, leading to a senior crew member shooting his mouth off in the press. It caused a bit of a stink, but at the end of the day, the film turned out to be great and showed no signs of being a 'troubled' production.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 11 October, 2011, 10:39:13 AM
Quote from: radiator on 11 October, 2011, 10:30:19 AM
it sounds like this 'story' was 'leaked' by a disgruntled crew member who has their own axe to grind.

Erm, that sounds like someone we know...




Just kidding Michael  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 11:41:06 AM
It's sad that someone like that!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fuzzed on 11 October, 2011, 11:44:48 AM
Quote from: radiator on 11 October, 2011, 10:30:19 AM


Does kinda make you wonder why the producers didn't deny the story when the LA Times asked for a comment, though...



It was basically just a day or so, you know, despite how it seemed like forever to us who were on tenterhooks.

And frankly, once a rumour's out, no amount of denial can really shut it down. As we're seeing now. And the darker the rumour, the more staying power it seems to have.

The leakers don't even have to have malicious intent. Some people get a kick out of thinking they're in the know, even if they're fringe at best, and the thought of being 'sourced' on an major paper probably gave them happy times. Asses.

To be perfectly honest, I don't even care anymore about how good it is. I think I'm all anxioused out. Just the fact I can look forward to seeing a Dredd on the big screen next year is the happy I'm determined to cling to for dear life.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 11 October, 2011, 11:48:19 AM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 11 October, 2011, 10:39:13 AM
Quote from: radiator on 11 October, 2011, 10:30:19 AM
it sounds like this 'story' was 'leaked' by a disgruntled crew member who has their own axe to grind.

Erm, that sounds like someone we know...




Just kidding Michael  :lol:

Psh..   ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 11 October, 2011, 11:54:25 AM
I saw this comment over on Slashfilm - I pretty agree with this guy's take on the situation.

QuoteMy totally unfounded guess at what's happening:
This is Producer/Screenwriter Garland's baby, and he hired Pete Travis to shoot it since he hadn't directed a movie before. He wrote the script, he's the shot caller in the editing room.
There, not so complex right?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 October, 2011, 12:00:14 PM
Radiator - Fantastic Mr Fox?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 11 October, 2011, 12:04:37 PM
Quote from: radiator on 11 October, 2011, 11:54:25 AM
I saw this comment over on Slashfilm - I pretty agree with this guy's take on the situation.

QuoteMy totally unfounded guess at what's happening:
This is Producer/Screenwriter Garland's baby, and he hired Pete Travis to shoot it since he hadn't directed a movie before. He wrote the script, he's the shot caller in the editing room.
There, not so complex right?

+1 on that one..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: clavell on 11 October, 2011, 12:09:11 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 10:28:40 AM
Rebellion should have given my screenplays a chance. They were more faithful in spirit than Garland's generic Die Hard in a MC-1 block storyline. Jock emailed me not that long ago, we had a chat, and I reckon he would have been happy to have storyboarded a section of it (for a moderate fee, of course) had Rebellion given my screenplays a chance. Anyway, never mind. It wasn't to be. But it's sad to see another Judge Dredd film being ruined by people with no clear vision. Ultimately it comes down to that - a clear vision. Without that clear vision the film will end up a mess. And that seems to the case with Dredd 2012.

:(

scojo

I'd like to read that script of his. Anyone have a copy ?

- C
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 11 October, 2011, 12:21:48 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 11 October, 2011, 12:04:37 PM
Quote from: radiator on 11 October, 2011, 11:54:25 AM
I saw this comment over on Slashfilm - I pretty agree with this guy's take on the situation.

QuoteMy totally unfounded guess at what's happening:
This is Producer/Screenwriter Garland's baby, and he hired Pete Travis to shoot it since he hadn't directed a movie before. He wrote the script, he's the shot caller in the editing room.
There, not so complex right?

+1 on that one..



That sounds about right to me. I'm just happy there's somebody on the project that  has a clear vision of how the movie should be made.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fuzzed on 11 October, 2011, 12:28:53 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 11 October, 2011, 12:21:48 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 11 October, 2011, 12:04:37 PM
Quote from: radiator on 11 October, 2011, 11:54:25 AM
I saw this comment over on Slashfilm - I pretty agree with this guy's take on the situation.

QuoteMy totally unfounded guess at what's happening:
This is Producer/Screenwriter Garland's baby, and he hired Pete Travis to shoot it since he hadn't directed a movie before. He wrote the script, he's the shot caller in the editing room.
There, not so complex right?

+1 on that one..



That sounds about right to me. I'm just happy there's somebody on the project that  has a clear vision of how the movie should be made.

+2 and ditto.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buddy on 11 October, 2011, 12:53:03 PM
Quote from: clavell on 11 October, 2011, 12:09:11 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 10:28:40 AM
Rebellion should have given my screenplays a chance. They were more faithful in spirit than Garland's generic Die Hard in a MC-1 block storyline. Jock emailed me not that long ago, we had a chat, and I reckon he would have been happy to have storyboarded a section of it (for a moderate fee, of course) had Rebellion given my screenplays a chance. Anyway, never mind. It wasn't to be. But it's sad to see another Judge Dredd film being ruined by people with no clear vision. Ultimately it comes down to that - a clear vision. Without that clear vision the film will end up a mess. And that seems to the case with Dredd 2012.

:(

scojo

I'd like to read that script of his. Anyone have a copy ?

- C

It's the 'had a chat with Jock' bit that gets me... 'happy to storyboard'... etc.....
I'd really like to hear Jocks take on that chat.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 11 October, 2011, 01:20:39 PM
Buddy - 'Jock' is just the name of one of his many imaginary friends, also the name of his pet hamster -Which one he was talking to remains unclear at this time.......
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 October, 2011, 01:28:39 PM
I tweeted a link to reply #213 to Jock and his reply was
Quotemental
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 01:30:12 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 October, 2011, 01:28:39 PM
I tweeted a link to reply #213 to Jock and his reply was
Quotemental

Love that! Like when US Commander reply to German Commander "Nuts!"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: johnnystress on 11 October, 2011, 01:50:08 PM
has this been posted?

Here is the official statement from the Alex garland and Pete Travis - "During all stages of the filmmaking, Dredd has been a collaboration between a number of dedicated creative parties. From the outset we decided on an unorthodox collaboration to make the film. This situation has been misinterpreted. To set the record straight, Pete was not fired and remains a central part of the collaboration, and Alex is not seeking a co-director credit. We are all extremely proud of the film we have made, and respectfully suggest that it is judged on viewing when its released next yea
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 02:03:07 PM
Oh for god sake, Scojo or Scott Nestel is Dreddhead123 making a comment in Empireonline report today!

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32186 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32186)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 02:16:55 PM
http://www.empireonline.com/Forum/tm.asp?m=3215267&mpage=1&key=&NID=0#3217220 (http://www.empireonline.com/Forum/tm.asp?m=3215267&mpage=1&key=&NID=0#3217220)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 11 October, 2011, 02:17:52 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 02:03:07 PM
Oh for god sake, Scojo or Scott Nestel is Dreddhead123 making a comment in Empireonline report today!

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32186 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32186)

Ha Ha! Nice going Goaty and James! You showed that loser who the real fans are.

I'm going to sign up and stick it to him as well.

Let's have a Sc*j* watch. If anyone spots any of his demented burblings on a website, let us know on here and we can all sign up and out him as the raving lunatic that he is.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 11 October, 2011, 02:29:29 PM
We should have some kind of agreed username, and prewritten text that we automatically just post in reply to his bollocks, whenever he pops up somewhere, along with an explanation of why this is necessary.

But written in such a way so as not to open this board up for accusations of cyberbullying.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 11 October, 2011, 02:42:54 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 11 October, 2011, 02:29:29 PM
We should have some kind of agreed username, and prewritten text that we automatically just post in reply to his bollocks, whenever he pops up somewhere, along with an explanation of why this is necessary.

But written in such a way so as not to open this board up for accusations of cyberbullying.

SBT

Yes, I suppose we need to be careful of that.

I get so annoyed with him though. He keeps regurgetating the same old crap over and over again and he's so prolific that not only is he seemingly viewed as 'The Voice of Dredd Fans', he's also negatively colouring the opinion of casual punters about the new film.

Maybe, instead of drawing attention to him, we should just flood sites that he frequents with reasonable comments. At least then he'll look like he's in the minority.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 11 October, 2011, 03:14:19 PM
Bloody nora.. I did a bit of googling, and this individual has been around for quite a bit.. Found stuff going back to him being a toss way back in 2004.. Apparently he smells like cabbage. I found that entertaining.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buddy on 11 October, 2011, 03:58:38 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 October, 2011, 01:28:39 PM
I tweeted a link to reply #213 to Jock and his reply was
Quotemental

Yes... he really is.

I used to think he was just... you know.... mental in a kinda 'he's mental' kinda way.

But it's clear now he really is mental.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 11 October, 2011, 04:31:35 PM
(http://www.2000adreview.co.uk/features/interviews/2005/grant/mental.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 11 October, 2011, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 11 October, 2011, 02:29:29 PM
We should have some kind of agreed username, and prewritten text that we automatically just post in reply to his bollocks, whenever he pops up somewhere, along with an explanation of why this is necessary.

But written in such a way so as not to open this board up for accusations of cyberbullying.

SBT



Let's unite to form the SCOJO TERROR DEFENSE team - or STD for short.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 11 October, 2011, 04:54:26 PM
Well I've always been approaching the movie like any good Irishman should: Assume it's going to be pants, lowering any expectation whatsoever so I can't be disappointed with what I get. (Mind you, I tried that approach with Conan and it didn't help.)

This update from Garland and Travis isn't going to do anything to change my thinking. Still think it's just damage-control in the end. Of all the movies that get made every single year that no doubt have blazing disagreements between producers, screenwriters, directors and actors most of those stories don't leak out to the public without elements of truth attached.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 05:06:26 PM
in Darkhorizons; http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/22055/denial-issued-over-dredd-controversy (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/22055/denial-issued-over-dredd-controversy)

On Friday came the news via The LA Times that suggested that director Pete Travis looked to have been removed from the production of "Dredd" during the midst of post-production due to a disagreement with the producers.

At the time writer/producer Alex Garland reportedly had stepped in as his replacement. Today though, Travis and Garland have issued a joint official statement to 24 Frames:

"During all stages of the filmmaking, 'Dredd' has been a collaboration between a number of dedicated creative parties. From the outset we decided on an unorthodox collaboration to make the film. This situation has been misinterpreted.

To set the record straight, Pete was not fired and remains a central part of the collaboration, and Alex is not seeking a co-director credit. We are all extremely proud of the film we have made, and respectfully suggest that it is judged on viewing when its released next year."

A fairly blatant attempt at spin with the details kept decidedly vague and not flat out denying the claim but rather saying some of its details were misinterpreted or over exaggerated, which is a fair enough claim.

No doubt a more prepared and detailed statement explaining events will be forthcoming during publicity rounds closer to the film's release. "Dredd" remains on target for a September 21st 2012 release in North America.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 October, 2011, 05:22:34 PM
OK, I think I am beginning to get an idea why people think the 'fan boys' want it to fail. By the sounds of things this scojo is a real bastard. Can he not just be band from the forums if enough people don't like him?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 11 October, 2011, 05:33:14 PM
By the sounds of things it's borderline a beating up around the back of the next comic convention, let alone being banned..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 11 October, 2011, 05:52:07 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 11 October, 2011, 02:17:52 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 02:03:07 PM
Oh for god sake, Scojo or Scott Nestel is Dreddhead123 making a comment in Empireonline report today!

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32186 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32186)

Ha Ha! Nice going Goaty and James! You showed that loser who the real fans are.

I'm going to sign up and stick it to him as well.

Let's have a Sc*j* watch. If anyone spots any of his demented burblings on a website, let us know on here and we can all sign up and out him as the raving lunatic that he is.


Anyone so inclined might want to noise him up on the Bleeding Cool comments section, where he's posting as 'bleedcool'.  He does get around.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/forums/showthread.php?47942-Judge-Dredd-Filmmakers-Release-Official-Statement-So-What-s-Going-On (http://www.bleedingcool.com/forums/showthread.php?47942-Judge-Dredd-Filmmakers-Release-Official-Statement-So-What-s-Going-On)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 11 October, 2011, 06:01:03 PM
If an individual is particularly unpleasant, mentally unstable and damaging to 2000AD and it's fans, do they win the Krill Tro Scojo Award?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2011, 06:39:54 PM
You just want every reward Pete.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2011, 06:51:44 PM
Quote from: radiator on 11 October, 2011, 11:54:25 AM
I saw this comment over on Slashfilm - I pretty agree with this guy's take on the situation.

QuoteMy totally unfounded guess at what's happening:
This is Producer/Screenwriter Garland's baby, and he hired Pete Travis to shoot it since he hadn't directed a movie before. He wrote the script, he's the shot caller in the editing room.
There, not so complex right?


As I've written on this thread previously a producer credit can usurp a director credit, unless of course Travis had a co-producer credit himself ala Nolan, Cameron, Spielberg et al. If you have nothing to do with the financing/producing of the film, you generally have little in the way of final say in the edit unless it's a very gracious studio which is rare. The production was well under way with Garland and DNA as they were the progenitors of the project, everything was organized, the shoot schedule script etc. but they lack a technical a director to facilitate the shoot which is why Travis was brought in.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 11 October, 2011, 07:12:38 PM
Yeah - it's why Duncan Jones turned down the opportunity to direct - he's a big fan of 2000ad, and had a very specific vision of how he wanted to do a Dredd movie, visually and script-wise - which as you say had by that point already been set in stone by DNA.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 October, 2011, 07:40:17 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 11 October, 2011, 06:01:03 PM
If an individual is particularly unpleasant, mentally unstable and damaging to 2000AD and it's fans, do they win the Krill Tro Scojo Award?

I think you'd have to go some to equal him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 October, 2011, 08:38:57 PM
Man, i'm quite annoyed about this now. Was looking for news to see if anything new had come up, and there are so many news websites just writing the film off as a flop already. A trailer hasn't even been released yet!

If the film does turn out good, all this won't really matter, but it's still annoying to see.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 11 October, 2011, 08:44:25 PM
It's amazing how one person can cause so much shit and how people get suckered into him.




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 11 October, 2011, 08:44:45 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 October, 2011, 08:38:57 PM
Man, i'm quite annoyed about this now. Was looking for news to see if anything new had come up, and there are so many news websites just writing the film off as a flop already. A trailer hasn't even been released yet!

If the film does turn out good, all this won't really matter, but it's still annoying to see.


Unfortunately, you get one headline with every movie. Either it's positive or it's negative and that one headline can have horrific repercussions for the final product, regardless of how well it turns out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 11 October, 2011, 08:46:37 PM
There's about 12 months till release. A decent teaser or trailer will assuage a lot of fears.

It was a pity that so many blogs/sites jumped on speculating about rumours without any facts/confirmations from the offical people involved. That co-director stuff was pure nonsense. Fair play to Empire for sticking to the facts, in this case.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 08:48:33 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 11 October, 2011, 08:46:37 PM
There's about 12 months till release. A decent teaser or trailer will assuage a lot of fears.

11 Months. Chill out everyone, it will be okay!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 11 October, 2011, 08:49:52 PM
People love bad news. How many main tabloid headlines are good for the soul. Shit sells I'm afraid.




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 11 October, 2011, 09:10:07 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 11 October, 2011, 08:49:52 PM
Shit sells I'm afraid.


Which explains how 10000BC made so much money..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2011, 09:23:11 PM
Then Jimp Stallone '95 should've made billions.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 October, 2011, 09:58:11 PM
I don't think the majority of the cinema going public frequent sites like Aintitcool or Bleedingcool or listen to trolls who post on such sites as if they did films such as Captain America or Thor which were panned and ridiculed on these sites wouldn't of enjoyed the box office success they had.

A cool trailer and good reviews will have much more impact than gossip and conjecture from a few internet trolls and fuckwits like Scojo.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2011, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 11 October, 2011, 09:58:11 PM
I don't think the majority of the cinema going public frequent sites like Aintitcool or Bleedingcool or listen to trolls who post on such sites


No, but the majority of the demographic Dredd is aimed at do.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 October, 2011, 10:13:51 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2011, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 11 October, 2011, 09:58:11 PM
I don't think the majority of the cinema going public frequent sites like Aintitcool or Bleedingcool or listen to trolls who post on such sites


No, but the majority of the demographic Dredd is aimed at do.

So that's about 0.5% of the potential cinema audience?

Seriously, if anyone's influenced by the internet in their decision making process than they need their heads tested and there's little hope for humanity!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 11 October, 2011, 10:18:22 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 11 October, 2011, 09:58:11 PM
I don't think the majority of the cinema going public frequent sites like Aintitcool or Bleedingcool or listen to trolls who post on such sites as if they did films such as Captain America or Thor which were panned and ridiculed on these sites wouldn't of enjoyed the box office success they had.

A cool trailer and good reviews will have much more impact than gossip and conjecture from a few internet trolls and fuckwits like Scojo.

Yep that's true but as they're the only people discussing subjects like these, that's all the general public gets to hear so it's the same result. Thor and Captain America weren't universally panned leading up to their releases though. Anything I read seemed 50-50 in regards to pre-publicity. They had enough good word-of-mouth which the trailers reinforced.

Plus, they didn't have to deal with "creative disagreements" rumors breaking out almost a year before the release.

The reviews are going to have to knock Dredd out of the park. If not, every review is going to focus on this recent rumor...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 11 October, 2011, 10:21:01 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 11 October, 2011, 10:13:51 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2011, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 11 October, 2011, 09:58:11 PM
I don't think the majority of the cinema going public frequent sites like Aintitcool or Bleedingcool or listen to trolls who post on such sites


No, but the majority of the demographic Dredd is aimed at do.

So that's about 0.5% of the potential cinema audience?

Seriously, if anyone's influenced by the internet in their decision making process than they need their heads tested and there's little hope for humanity!

Of course people are influenced by the internet. Rottentomatoes, anyone? I sure as fuck use it before I go see a movie. Not saying it'll stop me seeing a movie I think looks interesting but it'll certainly prepare me a bit.

Also, there's no point talking about tiny percentages of the general public and their cinema-going habits. Dredd's only going to appeal to a tiny percentage of that public, even if it's fucking fantastic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2011, 10:21:35 PM
Potential cinema audience? If you take the extreme end being an Avatar style mass audience where nuclear families en masse will see it and the other being a Red State non-entity that'll attract a few die-hards. I'd say Dredd will be sliding at least some distance closer to the latter so yes that demographic will be more important than the general audience.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2011, 10:22:44 PM
It's those sites that've contributed greatly to a small film like Drive being a genre success.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 October, 2011, 10:25:20 PM
I am pretty sure Empire will stay supportive of this movie during it's build up, so that's a good thing. They have a lot of readers and I generally agree with their reviews.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2011, 10:26:10 PM
That's mainly because it's a British mag, no point shitting on your own doorstep.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 October, 2011, 10:35:04 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 11 October, 2011, 10:21:01 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 11 October, 2011, 10:13:51 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2011, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 11 October, 2011, 09:58:11 PM
I don't think the majority of the cinema going public frequent sites like Aintitcool or Bleedingcool or listen to trolls who post on such sites


No, but the majority of the demographic Dredd is aimed at do.

So that's about 0.5% of the potential cinema audience?

Seriously, if anyone's influenced by the internet in their decision making process than they need their heads tested and there's little hope for humanity!

Of course people are influenced by the internet. Rottentomatoes, anyone? I sure as fuck use it before I go see a movie. Not saying it'll stop me seeing a movie I think looks interesting but it'll certainly prepare me a bit.

Also, there's no point talking about tiny percentages of the general public and their cinema-going habits. Dredd's only going to appeal to a tiny percentage of that public, even if it's fucking fantastic.

And that's why I said a good review will have more impact. Rotten tomatoes just compiles all the reviews from critics and makes an average percentage to create an overal figure.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 October, 2011, 10:38:51 PM
And you obviously weren't reading Aintitcool during pre-production of Thor or Captain America because the responce from leaked photos (sound familiar?) were universally derided by the resident trolls.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 October, 2011, 10:50:23 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2011, 10:21:35 PM
Potential cinema audience? If you take the extreme end being an Avatar style mass audience where nuclear families en masse will see it and the other being a Red State non-entity that'll attract a few die-hards. I'd say Dredd will be sliding at least some distance closer to the latter so yes that demographic will be more important than the general audience.



Dredd has far more in common with other action fare like the Lionsgate movie Expendables- that did very respectable box office,  than a niche movie like Red State in my opinion.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2011, 11:15:13 PM
It has more in common with the new Ghost Rider flick -looking pretty good- than most other stuff and that is hardcore comic genre audience.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2011, 11:18:01 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 11 October, 2011, 10:50:23 PM
Dredd has far more in common with other action fare like the Lionsgate movie Expendables- that did very respectable box office,  than a niche movie like Red State in my opinion.

My point was it is closer to cult than mass audience and cults congregate in unholy quorum on such sites.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 October, 2011, 11:22:31 PM
I think this film will attract enough initial cinema goers to be a success. You've got some respected names (garland, urban), sexy woman (Headey and Thirlby) an already established die-hard fan base (2000ad), action fans in general will probably check it out (especially if it's a R), empire and bleeding cool seem very supportive so you have their readers too, and we're still yet to have a trailer.

And as long as it is good, it will probably receive more praise when taking into account rumours of troubled production and the previous dredd film. ( I'm basing that last bit on the reviews of predators which was higher then they should have been mostly due to the fact it was compared to the more recent previous instalments like the AVP fiascos and predator 2)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 11 October, 2011, 11:53:53 PM
Quote from: GordonR on 11 October, 2011, 05:52:07 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 11 October, 2011, 02:17:52 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 October, 2011, 02:03:07 PM
Oh for god sake, Scojo or Scott Nestel is Dreddhead123 making a comment in Empireonline report today!

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32186 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=32186)

Ha Ha! Nice going Goaty and James! You showed that loser who the real fans are.

I'm going to sign up and stick it to him as well.

Let's have a Sc*j* watch. If anyone spots any of his demented burblings on a website, let us know on here and we can all sign up and out him as the raving lunatic that he is.


Anyone so inclined might want to noise him up on the Bleeding Cool comments section, where he's posting as 'bleedcool'.  He does get around.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/forums/showthread.php?47942-Judge-Dredd-Filmmakers-Release-Official-Statement-So-What-s-Going-On (http://www.bleedingcool.com/forums/showthread.php?47942-Judge-Dredd-Filmmakers-Release-Official-Statement-So-What-s-Going-On)

He's just admitted who he is on the Empire thread.

"ORIGINAL: dreddhead123

"Apparently he thought they should have chosen his screenplay over the guy who did 28 Days Later, Sunshine, Never Let Me Go etc... ah, the internet."

Well I'm happy to put it to the test. If anyone can name a good site where you can host screenplays, tell me. I'll host the two screenplays I wrote and people can read them."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2011, 11:58:55 PM
He never hides himself well, you can usually guess on the first post.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: weehawk on 12 October, 2011, 02:34:01 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 October, 2011, 11:22:31 PM
I think this film will attract enough initial cinema goers to be a success. You've got some respected names (garland, urban), sexy woman (Headey and Thirlby) an already established die-hard fan base (2000ad), action fans in general will probably check it out (especially if it's a R), empire and bleeding cool seem very supportive so you have their readers too, and we're still yet to have a trailer.

And as long as it is good, it will probably receive more praise when taking into account rumours of troubled production and the previous dredd film. ( I'm basing that last bit on the reviews of predators which was higher then they should have been mostly due to the fact it was compared to the more recent previous instalments like the AVP fiascos and predator 2)

I just hope Dredd doesn't fall prey to the type misconception on the part of the media(and audience) that very much plagued Conan The Barbarian, by being percieved as a remake.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 October, 2011, 08:49:49 AM
Quote from: weehawk on 12 October, 2011, 02:34:01 AMI just hope Dredd doesn't fall prey to the type misconception on the part of the media(and audience) that very much plagued Conan The Barbarian, by being percieved as a remake.


What plagued Conan was that it was a bad film. No one cared about misconceptions.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fuzzed on 12 October, 2011, 09:36:42 AM
I agree that it's more action flick fare than Ghost Rider/ Conan, so yeah, definitely more attractive to a wider audience.

Also, all the women I know are going for Urban alone, the deal sweetened by the kickass women characters. You're thinking a handful of women in my circle, true, but these women have their own women circles and if you ever heard them talk, you'd know why I'm confident. They went to Priest, and even after seeing it, buying the dvd... Nuff said.

And he won a lot of Trekkers over with his McCoy, and they're quite numerous and supportive. Can't discount their turnout. Since I'm quite a lover of Trek myself, I'm not just talking out my arse.

And there's Garland. Would you go see a film just based on the writer/producer/director/insertnameofchoiceinwhatevercapacity? I do. I'd go see Tintin even if the only name I recognised was Steven Moffat.

In short, I just think there's more reasons to be hopeful than not.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 October, 2011, 10:07:24 AM
Found Scojo in Dredd 2012 Imdb as My_Name_Is_Top_Secret;

one of his reply on "Worse than Conan"; Can guess Net Geek is himself as well! ARSEHOLE!

Well the positive view is:

Don't judge a book by its cover (or a film by its poster). What I mean is, the film is still in post production, no actual footage has been released. Who knows, even if the film needs reshooting or re-editing the action could be great. Have faith.

The negative view is:

These people are utterly clueless. The screenplay - WHICH WAS LEAKED! (who leaked it?) - wasn't that great and nothing we've seen suggests the finished film will be good. And all the bad press at the moment is the kiss of death for the film's box office chances.

And the alternate view is:

I think Net Geek's two Judge Dredd screenplays were much better than Garland's effort and should have been considered.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 October, 2011, 10:12:11 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 October, 2011, 10:07:24 AM
Found Scojo in Dredd 2012 Imdb as My_Name_Is_Top_Secret;


I think Net Geek's two Judge Dredd screenplays were much better than Garland's effort and should have been considered. [/b]

I thought the leaked script was pretty good, don't know why he keeps going on about that. And considering they surely know it had been leaked, and there were still some spelling errors in it, it's probably going to change a bit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 October, 2011, 10:12:32 AM
At the end of the day no one has a clue how it will do at the box office. Even if it gets great reviews across the board it could still flop, sadly. Quality is by no means an indication of how well a movie will perform - hence the likes of Pirates of the Caribbean making a shitload of money. Even positive early buzz is no indication of success - just ask the makers of Kick-Ass and Scott Pilgrim.

My guess would be the same as Michael VKs - it will do Ok, but not great at the box office, but will do quite well on DVD/home formats. I imagine that it will build up a cult audience over time, perhaps enough to warrant a sequel, perhaps not.

I do agree that it's going to be marketed more as a hardcore, balls-out action film than a superhero or Sci-fi one - probably pitching to the same audience as the aforementioned The Expendables and the likes of Gamer, 300, The Transporter, Crank etc. In that respect tweaking the subject matter to near-future rather than overtly sci-fi makes a lot of sense.

Though 3D has become a bit of a dirty word, it's a feature of Dredd that may help the film's prospects. From what I've heard, they've done some pretty cool things with the 3D (building new camera rigs, shooting in 3D rather than doing a shoddy post-convert) and it could really help if it builds a rep as a 3D experience that's actually worth going to see.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 12 October, 2011, 10:30:14 AM
You're kidding, surely? I don't think Karl Urban's starred in a hit film yet. (And that's starred - i.e. him as the lead actor playing the lead character, so no Star Trek, Red or Lord of the Rings.)  Doom, Pathfinder and Priest (although he was second fiddle in that) were all attempts to launch him as an action star, and all of them were flops.

On the basis of available evidence so far, he's pretty solid in second banana parts (his McCoy was good - although you could have taken that character out the film and it wouldn't have made the slightest difference to anything) and he makes a great villain (Red, Bourne Supremacy and maybe Chronicles of Riddick) but he's yet to prove he can open a film on his own, as lead actor.

The logic that Trekkers are going to go and see Dredd because he played McCoy doesn't hold up. They didn't go and see Chris Pine in the big budget flop Unstoppable - and he's only Captain friggin' Kirk,  - so why would this work for the guy who plays McCoy?

And all these women fans of his, who still couldn't make his other starring vehicles a success  - they're going to go and see him in a film where his face is covered up the entire time?

I like Karl Urban - I do - but it's a big jump to assume he's going to be an major audience draw.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 October, 2011, 10:34:23 AM
Quote from: GordonR on 12 October, 2011, 10:30:14 AM
You're kidding, surely? I don't think Karl Urban's starred in a hit film yet. (And that's starred - i.e. him as the lead actor playing the lead character, so no Star Trek, Red or Lord of the Rings.)  Doom, Pathfinder and Priest (although he was second fiddle in that) were all attempts to launch him as an action star, and all of them were flops.

On the basis of available evidence so far, he's pretty solid in second banana parts (his McCoy was good - although you could have taken that character out the film and it wouldn't have made the slightest difference to anything) and he makes a great villain (Red, Bourne Supremacy and maybe Chronicles of Riddick) but he's yet to prove he can open a film on his own, as lead actor.

The logic that Trekkers are going to go and see Dredd because he played McCoy doesn't hold up. They didn't go and see Chris Pine in the big budget flop Unstoppable - and he's only Captain friggin' Kirk,  - so why would this work for the guy who plays McCoy?

And all these women fans of his, who still couldn't make his other starring vehicles a success  - they're going to go and see him in a film where his face is covered up the entire time?

I like Karl Urban - I do - but it's a big jump to assume he's going to be an major audience draw.

Well he was really good in Out of the Blue.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SpetsnaZ99 on 12 October, 2011, 10:44:34 AM
I thought he was great in Bourne Supremacy
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 12 October, 2011, 10:50:42 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 October, 2011, 10:34:23 AM
Well he was really good in Out of the Blue.

You mean the film that - according to imdb - made $728 at the US box office?

The issue isn't whether he's good, it's whether he's got box office appeal as a lead actor, and will bring people to the Dredd movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SpetsnaZ99 on 12 October, 2011, 11:12:19 AM
Which on is he?

http://www.ootb.org.uk/ (http://www.ootb.org.uk/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 October, 2011, 11:13:19 AM
Quote from: SpetsnaZ99 on 12 October, 2011, 11:12:19 AM
Which on is he?

http://www.ootb.org.uk/ (http://www.ootb.org.uk/)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_the_Blue_(2006_film) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_the_Blue_(2006_film))
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fuzzed on 12 October, 2011, 11:14:09 AM
I'm just saying Urban has his own appeal, and yes, even with his face covered up they are going. Some are wailing and rending their clothes over it, but they are still going.

As for Trekkers, even those who hated nuTrek were mostly won over by his McCoy, and liked him over even Captain friggin' Kirk himself. Myself, I thought Chris Pine did a fantastic job. Very impressed.

No, I'm not saying he will draw the masses in and make Dredd a success, although good for him - and us -  if it does; I'm just saying Dredd will appeal to a wider audience than die-hard fanboys who haunt the net/comic fans/ sword and sorcery fans/ sci-fi fans. Dredd doesn't appear niche or cult - comic Dredd, yes, but not this film Dredd.

I actually liked Pathfinder and Doom and Riddick (which is getting a sequel and he will be back for it), all could be better but still, far from terrible fare. Priest, not so much, at all, which was a shame because the imagery was, as mentioned by others before, pretty good post apocalyptic Dreddesque. The scriptwriter needs a good spanking.

All in all, I'm saying we have a good cast, a good scriptwriter, a good director even if only hired for his technical skills, and a strong assurance that they care for Dredd - and a film that should appeal to a wide audience rather than niche. Frankly, optimism makes more sense than this pervading sense of doom that's colouring some opinions now.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 12 October, 2011, 11:24:48 AM
Quote from: GordonR on 12 October, 2011, 10:30:14 AM
You're kidding, surely? I don't think Karl Urban's starred in a hit film yet. (And that's starred - i.e. him as the lead actor playing the lead character, so no Star Trek, Red or Lord of the Rings.)  Doom, Pathfinder and Priest (although he was second fiddle in that) were all attempts to launch him as an action star, and all of them were flops.

On the basis of available evidence so far, he's pretty solid in second banana parts (his McCoy was good - although you could have taken that character out the film and it wouldn't have made the slightest difference to anything) and he makes a great villain (Red, Bourne Supremacy and maybe Chronicles of Riddick) but he's yet to prove he can open a film on his own, as lead actor.

The logic that Trekkers are going to go and see Dredd because he played McCoy doesn't hold up. They didn't go and see Chris Pine in the big budget flop Unstoppable - and he's only Captain friggin' Kirk,  - so why would this work for the guy who plays McCoy?

And all these women fans of his, who still couldn't make his other starring vehicles a success  - they're going to go and see him in a film where his face is covered up the entire time?

I like Karl Urban - I do - but it's a big jump to assume he's going to be an major audience draw.



Glass half full much?


The only real thing any of us can hope for in the way of the film doing well enough to deserve a sequel is for it to be entertaining. There are too many factors that make no rational sense when it comes to box office takings, so as long as it's good, it will find an audience somewhere. Remember Dredd is known and loved outside of America, and many films today are made hits by their performance in foreign territories. The beauty of it being so low budget is that it could easily do that.

At this point no one can  tell what will happen, but I find it pointless throwing in the towel and giving up at such an early stage, because a success definitely doesnt come from such defeatest talk. The more people like sc*j* do that without seeing the finished product, the more likely it is that lazy journalists will pick up on  a negative buzz.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 12 October, 2011, 11:32:09 AM
Speaking as Joe Bloggs movie goer here, I reckon with the impending 18 mark to the rating, it's got cult film written all over it.. You won't be taking your whole family to see it, unless you want the missus to throw up in her popcorn bucket (though, that said, women these days..).. So having a bloke like Karl won't really sway the box office much. He's reasonably well known enough to get the numbers, but not big enough to be too hurt by modest box office sales. Again, this one will find it's home in the dvd and bluray sales..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fuzzed on 12 October, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 12 October, 2011, 11:24:48 AM
Quote from: GordonR on 12 October, 2011, 10:30:14 AM
You're kidding, surely? I don't think Karl Urban's starred in a hit film yet.

The only real thing any of us can hope for in the way of the film doing well enough to deserve a sequel is for it to be entertaining. There are too many factors that make no rational sense when it comes to box office takings, so as long as it's good, it will find an audience somewhere. Remember Dredd is known and loved outside of America, and many films today are made hits by their performance in foreign territories. The beauty of it being so low budget is that it could easily do that.

At this point no one can  tell what will happen, but I find it pointless throwing in the towel and giving up at such an early stage, because a success definitely doesnt come from such defeatest talk. The more people like sc*j* do that without seeing the finished product, the more likely it is that lazy journalists will pick up on  a negative buzz.

Well put. This is what I was trying to say and failing to do so.

Some big movies with big names and budgets have done badly, all expectations and net buzz and critics meaning sweet FA. It's in no way predictable. Smurfs and Cowboys and Aliens come to mind.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 October, 2011, 12:55:42 PM
If you've nothing to say, don't say anything especially if you have to resort to quoting the likes of him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 October, 2011, 12:57:58 PM
Okay, Dredd like this, wouldnt be blockbuster, but can be sleeper hit, if PR campaign would kept it good... as 2000Ad start it books out in USA last week?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 October, 2011, 01:01:32 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 October, 2011, 12:57:58 PM
Okay, Dredd like this, wouldnt be blockbuster, but can be sleeper hit, if PR campaign would kept it good... as 2000Ad start it books out in USA last week?

As wiki says; Typically the sleeper hit relies instead on positive "word of mouth" as well as the publicity generated by awards and good reviews.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 12 October, 2011, 01:56:40 PM
Quote from: Fuzzed on 12 October, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Smurfs and Cowboys and Aliens...

:lol: Now there's a sequel I'd like to see.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fuzzed on 12 October, 2011, 02:02:08 PM
*g* So would I.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: weehawk on 12 October, 2011, 07:04:33 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 October, 2011, 08:49:49 AM
Quote from: weehawk on 12 October, 2011, 02:34:01 AMI just hope Dredd doesn't fall prey to the type misconception on the part of the media(and audience) that very much plagued Conan The Barbarian, by being percieved as a remake.


What plagued Conan was that it was a bad film. No one cared about misconceptions.

We can discuss several possible reasons why the film failed at the box office. Still, there have been other films that have gotten worse receptions by critics than Conan did, such as Underworld:Evolution, and were commercially successful. Just saying.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cactus on 13 October, 2011, 12:00:22 AM
Quote from: GordonR on 10 October, 2011, 12:51:53 PMThe LA Times Hollywood section seems to have been the first reputable source to run the story.

In journalistic terms, LA Times > Empire.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2011/10/director-drama-heats-up-on-dredd.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2011/10/director-drama-heats-up-on-dredd.html)

I haven't caught up with the last ten pages yet but I just wanted to say that describing Dredd as a "remake" of the Stallone film (as the LA Times does) is probably more damaging, at least to the general public.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 13 October, 2011, 07:15:28 AM
It shows how dubiously informed internet journalism is. LA Times peaking this example.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 13 October, 2011, 01:15:10 PM
Here's a question for you types that actually work on films.

You get the chance to work on a property that you know and love.

Do you read the whole script and get it spoilered for you or can you work in blinkered isolation just reading the bits that are relevant to what you work* on but not spoiling the whole thing for you?

*if it's anything like wehere I work, then this can be done but almost always leads to problems later on as people that work in silos miss out on contributing to the bigger picture?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Meathook on 13 October, 2011, 01:59:03 PM
Working for the Yankee Dollar not the GBP!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 13 October, 2011, 08:34:37 PM
Relieved. Even if it's not entirely true.

I think a great way to distract from this debacle would be to release some mind-blowing cool movie imagery. But that's just my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 October, 2011, 08:46:34 PM
Quote from: Stan on 13 October, 2011, 08:34:37 PM
Relieved. Even if it's not entirely true.

I think a great way to distract from this debacle would be to release some mind-blowing cool movie imagery. But that's just my humble opinion.

yeah, they should have released some cool new pics with the joint statement.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 October, 2011, 08:49:27 PM
Sounds like if any latest photos still exclusive to Empire?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 October, 2011, 12:45:07 PM
Back to the waiting game for us boarders.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 15 October, 2011, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 October, 2011, 12:45:07 PM
Back to the waiting game for us boarders.
At least it kept us busy for a week or so.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 15 October, 2011, 08:24:59 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 15 October, 2011, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 October, 2011, 12:45:07 PM
Back to the waiting game for us boarders.
At least it kept us busy for a week or so.




V

Yep, now back in the box till someone gets the pokey stick out again.

Stew. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 18 October, 2011, 12:42:38 AM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 12 October, 2011, 11:24:48 AM
Quote from: GordonR on 12 October, 2011, 10:30:14 AM
You're kidding, surely? I don't think Karl Urban's starred in a hit film yet. (And that's starred - i.e. him as the lead actor playing the lead character, so no Star Trek, Red or Lord of the Rings.)  Doom, Pathfinder and Priest (although he was second fiddle in that) were all attempts to launch him as an action star, and all of them were flops.

On the basis of available evidence so far, he's pretty solid in second banana parts (his McCoy was good - although you could have taken that character out the film and it wouldn't have made the slightest difference to anything) and he makes a great villain (Red, Bourne Supremacy and maybe Chronicles of Riddick) but he's yet to prove he can open a film on his own, as lead actor.

The logic that Trekkers are going to go and see Dredd because he played McCoy doesn't hold up. They didn't go and see Chris Pine in the big budget flop Unstoppable - and he's only Captain friggin' Kirk,  - so why would this work for the guy who plays McCoy?

And all these women fans of his, who still couldn't make his other starring vehicles a success  - they're going to go and see him in a film where his face is covered up the entire time?

I like Karl Urban - I do - but it's a big jump to assume he's going to be an major audience draw.



Glass half full much?


The only real thing any of us can hope for in the way of the film doing well enough to deserve a sequel is for it to be entertaining. There are too many factors that make no rational sense when it comes to box office takings, so as long as it's good, it will find an audience somewhere. Remember Dredd is known and loved outside of America, and many films today are made hits by their performance in foreign territories. The beauty of it being so low budget is that it could easily do that.

At this point no one can  tell what will happen, but I find it pointless throwing in the towel and giving up at such an early stage, because a success definitely doesnt come from such defeatest talk. The more people like sc*j* do that without seeing the finished product, the more likely it is that lazy journalists will pick up on  a negative buzz.



Thing is in all respects he should be playing alongside Mega-City One. So more of a supporting role.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 18 October, 2011, 02:39:21 AM
I think an interesting point has been raised here. This movie isn't just relying on how well Dredd can be adapted to the big screen on a limited budget, it's also relying on how well Urban can carry a leading role. I enjoyed him as McCoy and he did a good turn in Lord of the Rings. This forum will no doubt put his upcoming performance through a wringer of intense scrutiny. I look forward to it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 October, 2011, 05:07:01 PM
Anthony Dod Mantle (cinematographer) talks a small bit about shooting Dredd around the 4:30 mark in the video below:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXtL9a-WEUw
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 November, 2011, 11:02:20 AM
Oh lovely, as Total Film got new feature about 50 Performances that ruined movies, guess what? Stallone as Judge Dredd is there!

But like this;

The Performance: What should have been the meanest mofo of Mega City One is reduced to a cuddly kids cartoon character in the hands of Stallone. He even takes his helmet off – pretty much the biggest Dredd no-no there is.

How It Could've Been Rescued: By revealing at the end of the movie that Stallone's Dredd was actually an imposter - and he's about to get the shit kicked out of him by the real Dredd.

http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-performances-that-ruined-movies/sylvester-stallone-judge-dredd-1995 (http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-performances-that-ruined-movies/sylvester-stallone-judge-dredd-1995)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 02 November, 2011, 05:18:55 PM
A little word from the man himself, John Wagner... taken from Laura Sneddon's rather good series of articles 'Comic Studies' on CBR, the whole things worth a read and there's a lot more from Wagner about 2000AD and Dredd etc.! || http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=35243 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=35243)

On Dredd ::
QuoteWagner was unable to say much about the upcoming new Dredd film, explaining, "the trouble about this is, I've signed a non-disclosure. I would tell you a lot, but I'm never sure what I'm allowed to say." After some thought, he added, "I think the story is better. I wish, perhaps, that the budget had been a little greater. I'm going up to see the final cut next week and I'm hoping that they've corrected some of the problems that existed in the first cut. I can't really say more than that, but in terms of the plot, the structure of the story, it's much more representative of Dredd as he is"

Hmmm... so it appears Wagner also had problems with the first cut...

Quote
Asked whether Wagner dreams of retiring, the creator responded with a laugh, "I would like to! I would like to retire, but at the moment I can't afford to. I'm still enjoying it, but things take longer. I've done so many Dredds now, what do I do that's new? Yes, I'd like to quit, but I probably won't."

On the Button Man film ::
Quote
"I hope to be dead when they have to decide [ho Dredd's story ends]," Wagner deadpanned. "When we started the comic, our idea in the way of DC Thompson's comics, [was] that no character should feature permanently...but it was the IPC way, if you've got a winner, keep it going. So when Dredd was created, I never envisioned there would be a problem with the year on year aging. And in actual fact, in terms of writing, I prefer it that way, because much of the character development [that] has come in Dredd has been through his aging and through his maturing as he's getting near retirement, I suppose. It won't happen in my lifetime."

Asked about the possibility of a Button Man film, Wagner responded, "Well, Button Man has been optioned to DreamWorks for 4 or 5 years now, and they've had trouble getting the script. I think they have difficulty getting out of the Hollywood cliché machine. The good thing about Spielberg is that he won't accept that, he's kept it on, he's determined to get something that reflects the darkness of the book and I'm glad of that, but I think this may be the last renewal. But there are several other people who want to run it. In fact, DNA, the people who are doing the Judge Dredd film, would like to do Button Man as well. Eventually it will come, when we get the right script."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 03 November, 2011, 08:25:13 AM
John Wagner didn't actually say he had a problem with the early cut he saw, he just said he hoped they'd corrected some of the problems in the early rough cut, well almost every rough cut has problems, that's why the editing process lasts for several months on average, and it takes time to iron those problems out and settle on a final cut that pleases the production team... the most encouraging thing about John Wagner's comments are that he's going up to see "the final cut" next week, meaning NO RESHOOTS (sorry Michaelvk), which by extension means those (completely unsubstantiated) media reports last month of less-than-thrilling footage being turned in are clearly inaccurate, I'm pretty excited now I know the footage shot is just fine and that the post-production is pretty much done, wonder if this means we'll get a teaser trailer by Christmas...!? 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 03 November, 2011, 09:24:26 AM
It's also good he clearly still has a voice in the process. I doubt he saw 95 Dredd before it was released. If he is being shown rough cuts to comment on we should hopefully end up with something fine tuned to be very Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 November, 2011, 09:31:28 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 03 November, 2011, 08:25:13 AM
I'm pretty excited now I know the footage shot is just fine and that the post-production is pretty much done,


'Final Cut' doesn't mean post-production is done. It just means, the assembly cut has been tuned to a point where the film content is fully structured/edited and the story/acting is full and complete. There could still be a good few months of FX work on certain shots to be done on the plus mixing and scoring.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 November, 2011, 11:53:39 PM
'nother Domhnall Gleeson snippet in print:



CLICK: If we can talk about Dredd for a minute – you shot earlier this year for a 2012 release. Can you talk about your character in that at all? I couldn't find much about it at all!
DG: Yea, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say anything, I think I signed some stuff! I only did two weeks on Dredd – it's not a huge role but I feel in some way he could represent the troubled heart of that kind of world. This awful society where Dredd's a figure of hope is really interesting. So I was really proud of working on this. I love Alex Garland [screenwriter on Dredd] as well. So my character is very important actually. Also I've got mad makeup and things.



Not this Dredd...


CLICK: And do you get to do any action?
DG: No not action stuff. I got to be dragged around and tortured a little bit basically but that's about it. I had a ball on it because the cinematographer was Anthony Dod Mantle [28 Days Later, 127 Hours] who is just gifted.

CLICK: I understand the film is shot in 3D – what was that process like on set – as an actor and possibly a future filmmaker?
DG: Yea I think 3D is really integral to how we're telling this story, it's actually really important in terms of the nature of the story – I think it will become clear when it comes out. And also because you've not just got a guy who know how to use 3D but you've got Anthony Dod Mantle in doing it. And the scope of his movies is just amazing, he's just really interested by light. Having an artist behind the camera is really important. It was kind of wonderful, it was really freeing. And I've just been working with Seamus McGarvey [Anna Karenina] and I've also worked with Roger Deakins! [True Grit] It's kind of amazing. So that's been really, really exciting working with all those guys.



http://www.clickonline.com/movies/interview-domhnall-gleeson/4000/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 04 November, 2011, 04:06:01 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 03 November, 2011, 09:31:28 AM
'Final Cut' doesn't mean post-production is done. It just means, the assembly cut has been tuned to a point where the film content is fully structured/edited and the story/acting is full and complete. There could still be a good few months of FX work on certain shots to be done on the plus mixing and scoring.

You're right Joe, although considering the actual script content, it's pretty likely - likely, not certain - they're near the end now in the visual effects process (it's not on an Avatar scale of effects work, after all) now, although the sound mixing and scoring you're probably totally correct on, plus perfecting the final 3-D presentation may take a little more time as well, but that's okay with me, the more time to get it right, the better the final product... and that's what REALLY matters, after all!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: brendan1 on 04 November, 2011, 11:13:40 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 03 November, 2011, 08:25:13 AM

John Wagner didn't actually say he had a problem with the early cut he saw, he just said he hoped they'd corrected some of the problems in the early rough cut


So he identified that there were some problems in the first cut he saw, and hopes that they are corrected.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 05 November, 2011, 03:13:59 AM
Kinda splitting hairs there really, John Wagner admitting there were some problems IN the early cut is different to having a problem WITH the early cut, and John seems to be more the former than the latter, but I get and acknowledge your point Brendan...

To give an example, the first cut of Star Wars was a complete and total disaster, leading to George Lucas and team firing the British editor and shipping the filmed footage in it's entirety to California to edit it properly with new editors, the problem there was WITH the early cut of the movie.  Nearly a year of post-production followed, wherein there were still problems IN the final cut that were continuously ironed out before they settled on the final theatrically released movie (and if only George had left it alone after that, say no more...), sorry if I'm belabouring the point, just felt I needed to clarify exactly what I meant in the original post.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 30 December, 2011, 07:10:32 PM
Sorry if this has been asked/answered already...

Anyone any idea when we might see a teaser/trailer for Dredd?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 December, 2011, 07:13:15 PM
Whenever they decide, maybe mid-late Spring, online most likely or possibly tied to the Hunger Games in late March.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 31 December, 2011, 06:52:41 PM
Still no word on merchandising for the film? will there be any at all? A few action figs wouldn't go amiss if anyone's reading.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 December, 2011, 08:14:36 PM
Doubt there'll be anything other than a few boutique items and books.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JUDGE BURNS on 31 December, 2011, 08:37:10 PM
JUST 38 WEEKS TO GO................ :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mike Carroll on 01 January, 2012, 12:13:32 AM
Yay! The Dredd movie is happening this year!

- Mike
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 01 January, 2012, 01:20:00 AM
Little write up on Empire
http://www.empireonline.com/features/2012-movie-preview/default.asp
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buttonman on 01 January, 2012, 01:22:05 AM

It was one of Alex Zane's '12 for 2012' in The Sun (I saw it at my folks') so if that isn't the definition of greatness I've no idea what is.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 01 January, 2012, 01:40:07 AM
But there was a crap pic and no detail, whereas all the other films had something about them.
Because there's no info every time you see a mention of the Dredd film it just goes on about Stallone and 1995.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 January, 2012, 01:50:51 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 01 January, 2012, 01:20:00 AM
Little write up on Empire
http://www.empireonline.com/features/2012-movie-preview/default.asp


Bad research for a start. The usual lazy mistake concerning the oft-quoted "Danny Boyle's production company DNA"; it's not his company, he doesn't own DNA nor does he have anything to do with them -or Dredd- other than he directed a few films for them before he made it to 'Hollywood'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 01 January, 2012, 04:13:39 AM
Have they confused Andrew MacDonald for Danny Boyle? Or Is it because of the history of working together on many projects that've simply lumped them as one?
Does seem to be an obvious mistake on the writers part and everyone who has written regarding DNA films.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 January, 2012, 05:01:07 AM
It's down to cutting & pasting bits of older articles into something that looks kinda new to fill magazine space.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 01 January, 2012, 11:49:08 AM
The Scottish Sunday Mail  only had the usual Hollywood Blockbusters particularly the new Batman flick.

At least EMPIRE  and The Sun are still waving the flag.     
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 01 January, 2012, 12:58:05 PM
Quote from: W. R. Logan on 01 January, 2012, 01:40:07 AM
But there was a crap pic and no detail, whereas all the other films had something about them.
Because there's no info every time you see a mention of the Dredd film it just goes on about Stallone and 1995.

Yup -and New Year window of opportunity closed now.Still, I'm sure they know what there doing....... :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 01 January, 2012, 01:38:03 PM
Went to find the DNA Film website [via Wikipedia ] to get the latest info and the Website appears to be 'under construction' . Whether that's a good sign- or a very bad one we'll have to see. Hope it's good sign. New Year folks so let's try to be positive.

Maybe their going to surprise us with some DREDD related feedback sooner than we thought.

http://www.dnafilms.com/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 January, 2012, 02:22:28 PM
That under construction placeholder has been there for over a year. Notthat it really matters.



Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 January, 2012, 12:58:05 PMYup -and New Year window of opportunity closed now.Still, I'm sure they know what there doing....... :o


?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 01 January, 2012, 03:03:16 PM
Dredd didn't make the top 50 2012 films for the Guardian or a mention in the Daily Mail guide.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 January, 2012, 03:31:01 PM
Why does that matter?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 01 January, 2012, 03:41:27 PM
Even CBR didnt mention it on there ones to watch for 2012
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Greg M. on 01 January, 2012, 03:45:59 PM
At least Newsarama did in their '10 To Watch in 2012: Comic Book Characters':

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/10-to-watch-in-2012-characters-111228-1.html (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/10-to-watch-in-2012-characters-111228-1.html)

Dredd's number 8.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 January, 2012, 03:56:09 PM
None of this will matter a jot when a trailer arrives. Then the chips will fall as they may.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 01 January, 2012, 04:23:06 PM
Wonder if we will get a teaser first or just the theatrical in June or thereabouts.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 01 January, 2012, 04:41:38 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 01 January, 2012, 03:31:01 PM
Why does that matter?

Because Dredd simply isn't registering enough.When films like the  Abraham Lincoln :Vampire Hunter are getting more press you know something isn't right.I've seen lots of films without watching ANY trailer but simply because of what I saw or read ,even months before.

Movies need HYPE -simples
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 January, 2012, 04:46:55 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 January, 2012, 03:03:16 PM
Dredd didn't make the top 50 2012 films for the Guardian or a mention in the Daily Mail guide.

They had the abominable-looking 3 stooges remake in their list, so I'm dubious about what their criteria actually was.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 01 January, 2012, 05:22:25 PM
i hope we have a sleeper hit but to tell you the truth i have a bad feeling about this the silence is deafening! JOE SOAP is the only one keeping the film out there! the build up to this film is nonexistent, come on what would it take to set up a site-facebook page bet most of you folk could give them a hand as money seems to be a issue! this must be as frustrating for Tharg and Molch-R and the rest of the nerve centre!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 01 January, 2012, 05:42:02 PM
Quote from: Psidude on 01 January, 2012, 05:22:25 PM
this must be as frustrating for Tharg and Molch-R and the rest of the nerve centre!

I think everything is going to plan according to their POV. There'll be trailers and other promotional soon enough.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 01 January, 2012, 07:49:47 PM
Bound to be something within the next few months simply due to the amount of time left,should have started sooner but whatever,not long now.

Do need to raise the profile soon though,AICN left it off their 'movies to look forward to in 2012' list,everything but the kitchen sink was on but Dredd.

All come out in the wash.

Happy New Year citizens.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 January, 2012, 08:03:50 PM
SFX put it in their 'Sci-Fi TV & Film Highlights For 2012'

HERE! (http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/01/01/20-for-%e2%80%9912-sci-fi-tv-film-highlights-for-2012/)

That is all  :-X
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 01 January, 2012, 08:14:51 PM
Lovely :)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 01 January, 2012, 08:40:48 PM
sweet cheers :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 01 January, 2012, 09:06:16 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 January, 2012, 08:03:50 PM
SFX put it in their 'Sci-Fi TV & Film Highlights For 2012'

HERE! (http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/01/01/20-for-%e2%80%9912-sci-fi-tv-film-highlights-for-2012/)

That is all  :-X
I thought this was just a one man campain not the general concensus.
Quotewith fans hating the costumes





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Greg M. on 01 January, 2012, 09:13:31 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 01 January, 2012, 09:06:16 PM
I thought this was just a one man campain not the general concensus.
Quotewith fans hating the costumes

Yeah, the 'one man campaign' thing was very much what the article made me think of. Whilst some on the board like the outfit and some don't, in no way do I get the impression that reaction has on average been overly negative. More cautiously optimistic in general.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 January, 2012, 09:31:59 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 January, 2012, 04:41:38 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 01 January, 2012, 03:31:01 PM
Why does that matter?

Because Dredd simply isn't registering enough.When films like the  Abraham Lincoln :Vampire Hunter are getting more press you know something isn't right.I've seen lots of films without watching ANY trailer but simply because of what I saw or read ,even months before.

Movies need HYPE -simples


These things -especially lists on websites are highly subjective and editorialised, focus can change within days and weeks, it's a very, very fickle industry, especially on the web -simple enough?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 January, 2012, 10:05:38 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 01 January, 2012, 07:49:47 PMDo need to raise the profile soon though,AICN left it off their 'movies to look forward to in 2012' list,everything but the kitchen sink was on but Dredd.


Really, they left out quite a bit: Wrath of the Titans, MiB3, John Carter, Dredd, Total recall, Jack the Giant Killer, Dark Shadows, Expendables 2, Ghost Rider 2, the Hunger Games to name a few?

As I said these are very subjective lists created by individuals with their own agendas/interests. If they aren't familiar yet or aren't fans of Dredd they won't bother including it in their 'hope list'. We shouldn't compare what one fan on a film website wants to see with what ultimately is considered a success.

A comparison film, genre-wise, is Total Recall, a remake/reboot that has had very little coverage; not a trailer nor even a teaser yet but only a place-holder webpage: http://www.totalrecall-movie.com. It's release date is nearly 2 months before Dredd and has a $200 million dollar budget, so will it fail beacause they haven't fully promoted/teased it yet? No, cos in the end none of us know how these things pan out. It's a black-art and if you don't hit the right notes at the right time -a lottery not a science- no amount of marketing will save a bad film from being rejected.

Dredd has a certain appeal to a certain audience, it isn't broad like Avatar or Dark Knight, films which can bludgeon people with massively sponsored 3D/IMAX marketing and the promise of galactic/global eye-candy or even the global-oestrogen-synchronicity of Sex & the City. If Dredd's a success it'll be down to luck, tight-punches and an appreciative audience. It has 9 months to do it. If it's great, shite or mediocre we'll know when it's time to know.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 January, 2012, 10:07:14 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 January, 2012, 08:03:50 PM
SFX put it in their 'Sci-Fi TV & Film Highlights For 2012'

HERE! (http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/01/01/20-for-%e2%80%9912-sci-fi-tv-film-highlights-for-2012/)

That is all  :-X

Brilliant! But it's said;

Gotta admit, I'm sticking my neck out with this choice. Certainly the internet buzz so far has been more negative than positive, with fans hating the costumes and suspicious of the idea that it's a small-scale "day-in-the-life"-style story. The news that the director, Pete Travis, parted company with the project during post production didn't help (though the split was amicable, apparently). But I still believe this might turn out to surprise us all. Sctrptwriter Alex Garland has a very good pedigree (28 Days Later, Sunshine) and the intention seems to be to make an intense, gritty, claustrophobic, dark sci-fi thriller rather than a bloated, gaudy blockbuster, and to me that feels a better fit for the character. Plus, the cinematographer, Anthony Dod Mantle, reckons, "If we get it right, it will be a cross between Blade Runner and Clockwork Orange." Now, that's a good ambition to strive for.

Wish they would check in 2000AD Forum, not other different forums where there is negatives!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 January, 2012, 10:07:32 PM
I'm not particularly fussed over a trailer yet, although a teaser would be nice.

I do wish they'd get a few more photos out there, it's a bit weird that if you go to this link

http://www.sfx.co.uk/tag/dredd/ (http://www.sfx.co.uk/tag/dredd/), they're using Planet Replicas pics for a couple of stories...

http://www.sfx.co.uk/2011/10/11/dredd-producer-oficially-refutes-director-was-sacked/#comment-window (http://www.sfx.co.uk/2011/10/11/dredd-producer-oficially-refutes-director-was-sacked/#comment-window)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 January, 2012, 10:10:28 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 01 January, 2012, 10:07:14 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 January, 2012, 08:03:50 PM
SFX put it in their 'Sci-Fi TV & Film Highlights For 2012'

HERE! (http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/01/01/20-for-%e2%80%9912-sci-fi-tv-film-highlights-for-2012/)

That is all  :-X

Brilliant! But it's said;

Gotta admit, I'm sticking my neck out with this choice. Certainly the internet buzz so far has been more negative than positive, with fans hating the costumes and suspicious of the idea that it's a small-scale "day-in-the-life"-style story. The news that the director, Pete Travis, parted company with the project during post production didn't help (though the split was amicable, apparently). But I still believe this might turn out to surprise us all. Sctrptwriter Alex Garland has a very good pedigree (28 Days Later, Sunshine) and the intention seems to be to make an intense, gritty, claustrophobic, dark sci-fi thriller rather than a bloated, gaudy blockbuster, and to me that feels a better fit for the character. Plus, the cinematographer, Anthony Dod Mantle, reckons, "If we get it right, it will be a cross between Blade Runner and Clockwork Orange." Now, that's a good ambition to strive for.

Wish they would check in 2000AD Forum, not other different forums where there is negatives!

It is mainly just one notable person under various pseudonyms banging on about the uniform, the actor, the script, the fucking catering...

Most of the other gripes have purely been about the size of the helmet, rather than the costume overall.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 January, 2012, 10:15:53 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 01 January, 2012, 10:10:28 PMIt is mainly just one notable person under various pseudonyms banging on about the uniform, the actor, the script, the fucking catering...

This is the point, you can't trust film-nerds with gripes who project their bias as the opinion of all fans.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 January, 2012, 10:20:07 PM
You could probably have finished that sentence after nerds...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 January, 2012, 10:23:06 PM
Aye.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 01 January, 2012, 10:24:39 PM
Because nerds don't comment on comic book websites?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 January, 2012, 10:34:15 PM
as all ready said it's a matter of trust and you really can't.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 January, 2012, 10:35:33 PM
Because there's an inordinate amount of nerdrage on sites like AICN, anyone who makes marketing decisions based on who shouts loudest on internet forums would seem bizarre.

It's fine to voice an opinion, but I wouldn't give it too much weight.

I'm a nerd, but I certainly don't expect what I say to have any bearing on what Rebellion/DNA/IMGlobal etc do, and to do so is delusional IMHO.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 01 January, 2012, 10:41:35 PM
We are all nerds,that was my point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 January, 2012, 10:42:47 PM
The emotional tide of world events can have more of an effect on what people see at the cinema than ad-campaigns. It's a volatile media glut that we live with. I also think there'll be many box-office casualties next year because of the sheer saturation of genre product, people will be very selective in what they'll see at the nickelodeon knowing that they they can download what they don't soon after.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 January, 2012, 10:43:59 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 01 January, 2012, 10:41:35 PM
We are all nerds,that was my point.


and we're not to be trusted especially those of us who have sites to run and pixel-space to fill.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 01 January, 2012, 11:03:30 PM
Thanks for laying down the law.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 02 January, 2012, 03:55:34 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 01 January, 2012, 10:15:53 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 01 January, 2012, 10:10:28 PMIt is mainly just one notable person under various pseudonyms banging on about the uniform, the actor, the script, the fucking catering...

This is the point, you can't trust film-nerds with gripes who project their bias as the opinion of all fans.

That's really a shame... It's always the ones who shouts the loudest gets heard, Scojo's guerilla style negativity has done the business, he has been ranting and raving for months on imdb for sometime, banned numerously times yet the git's nasty streak is making on impact out there.
Even Jock had to email him to lay off the project. I believe like everyone else that the majority of fans like the look. We'll just wait and see and weather Scojo's hate brigade.  >:(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 02 January, 2012, 04:29:50 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 January, 2012, 03:03:16 PM
Dredd didn't make the top 50 2012 films for the Guardian or a mention in the Daily Mail guide.

Gimme a break, the Guardian ?  When have they ever been the gold-standard for the public pulse, you'd be better off with Pravda , not that there's much difference between the two ::)...

If Sc**jo is causing so much havoc for the good name and reputation of Dredd, can IM Global not impress on the sites he's trolling on to ban him outright, I mean, they shut down CraveNoir's wonderful Judge Dredd Movie News blog and THAT was a highly positive piece of free publicity for the project (it's how I found out a new JD movie was being made), short of that, I would suggest a baseball bat and a shovel to take care of him, but he'd probably rise from the ground and start trolling again, how about a stake through the heart...!?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 02 January, 2012, 09:05:48 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 02 January, 2012, 04:29:50 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 January, 2012, 03:03:16 PM
Dredd didn't make the top 50 2012 films for the Guardian or a mention in the Daily Mail guide.

Gimme a break, the Guardian ?  When have they ever been the gold-standard for the public pulse, you'd be better off with Pravda , not that there's much difference between the two ::)...

If Sc**jo is causing so much havoc for the good name and reputation of Dredd, can IM Global not impress on the sites he's trolling on to ban him outright, I mean, they shut down CraveNoir's wonderful Judge Dredd Movie News blog and THAT was a highly positive piece of free publicity for the project (it's how I found out a new JD movie was being made), short of that, I would suggest a baseball bat and a shovel to take care of him, but he'd probably rise from the ground and start trolling again, how about a stake through the heart...!?


Has anyone informed Harry at Aintitcoolnews and whoever runs the Empire forum about who this guy is. He's trolling the hell out of those sites under different pseudonyms and causing untold damage.i.e. whenever we get lazy journalism from the cut and paste brigade, they always quote that fans on the net hate what's going on with the film.

This bad publicity is spreading and becoming part of established fact in relation to the Dredd film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 02 January, 2012, 09:40:16 AM
yes i have seen the hate on the empire site and total film.you can see the shit a mile off i hope his next shits a hedgehog followed by a over growing porcupine! I think the cast look and feel of the dredd film is spot on its just the lack of information thats worrying  :) 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge macbrayne on 02 January, 2012, 11:51:22 AM
Got to agree with psidude here .
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 January, 2012, 04:16:44 PM
Now it is in Darkhorizons feature of The Notable Films of 2012

http://www.darkhorizons.com/features/1604/the-notable-films-of-2012-volume-three (http://www.darkhorizons.com/features/1604/the-notable-films-of-2012-volume-three)

Dredd
Opens: September 21st 2012
Cast: Karl Urban, Olivia Thirlby, Lena Headey, Jason Cope, Domhnall Gleeson
Director: Pete Travis

Analysis: Sylvester Stallone's often derided 1995 effort "Judge Dredd" bore little relation to John Wagner's British comic character, and now the 'Judge' gets another shot at the big screen. Gone is the big visual effects and decidedly clean looking Megacity One. Instead we have a leaner, darker and grittier $45 million 3D interpretation shot in South Africa back in late 2010.

Star Urban describes this as a setup film mixing together various stories from the comics and following a day in the life of Dredd as he puts his rookie through the paces to see if she is worthy or not of becoming a Judge. The character is much more a figure of fear and intimidation in this, while Urban has confirmed he never removes his helmet - leaving his face obscured throughout.

One element of concern happened this year when director Pete Travis had "creative disagreements between producers and executives" leading to the film's scribe Alex Garland taking over the editing process. The pair released a joint statement saying they had agreed on an "unorthodox collaboration" before production began and Travis was still involved, but there's definitely more to this story which we probably won't find out about until closer to release.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 02 January, 2012, 06:09:36 PM
Although it's stuff we kind of know already, that second paragraph is promising.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 03 January, 2012, 01:07:45 AM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 02 January, 2012, 09:05:48 AM
Has anyone informed Harry at Aintitcoolnews and whoever runs the Empire forum about who this guy is. He's trolling the hell out of those sites under different pseudonyms and causing untold damage

I called him out on the Empire forums not too long back and he pretty much admitted who he was (at first denying all knowledge of what I was talking about, then in the next post contradicting himself) and went on about how the script he wrote would have been better (?!). Still, I don't think they can ban him since he's just expressing his opinion, regardless of how irrational it might be.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Emperor on 03 January, 2012, 05:24:25 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 03 January, 2012, 01:07:45 AM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 02 January, 2012, 09:05:48 AM
Has anyone informed Harry at Aintitcoolnews and whoever runs the Empire forum about who this guy is. He's trolling the hell out of those sites under different pseudonyms and causing untold damage

I called him out on the Empire forums not too long back and he pretty much admitted who he was (at first denying all knowledge of what I was talking about, then in the next post contradicting himself) and went on about how the script he wrote would have been better (?!). Still, I don't think they can ban him since he's just expressing his opinion, regardless of how irrational it might be.

Oh I don't know, his monomania is flamebait (albeit presumably unintentional) and can be disruptive on a forum who tries to have (even moderately) reasoned discussion. They'd be advised to try and get rid of him if they can.

The main problem is he is quite difficult to ban and keep banned. However, if anyone from Empire or SFX's forums (or anywhere else with an infestation) wants help getting rid of him we have a reasonable grasp on his wily ways so they should contact the site and we can see what we can do to help them out.

All you can really do is call him on it and expose him for the sockpuppet-abusing sadsack that he is. Although sometimes the best way to stop a fire is to starve it off oxygen, I suspect getting in and giving things a more positive spin is the best approach, just don't get dragged into his nonsense.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: locustsofdeath! on 03 January, 2012, 07:52:15 AM
The culmination of a massive scojo fallout on imdb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/nest/192070887?p=1
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 03 January, 2012, 09:13:39 AM
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 03 January, 2012, 07:52:15 AM
The culmination of a massive scojo fallout on imdb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/nest/192070887?p=1

Ouch!  The best bit in that very long sequence was Goaty's "Do you think John Wagner gives a sh_t?", which had me giggling into my coffee.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 03 January, 2012, 09:34:58 AM
Scojo has united all true 2000ad fans, Artists, writers and the nerve centre in there dislike of his vindictive ways! the sad thing is even me writing this is feeding his twisted ego! think the best action is to blank him and leave him to rot in his brown and cream Y front all in one set! Well done to goaty very funny! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 January, 2012, 09:45:06 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 03 January, 2012, 09:13:39 AM
Ouch!  The best bit in that very long sequence was Goaty's "Do you think John Wagner gives a sh_t?", which had me giggling into my coffee.

Oh should says "Do you think John Wagner gives an sh_t?"  :D

Problems is that, Scojo can still reading anythings on this forum.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 January, 2012, 09:46:32 AM
Oh thought S is part of vowel! Slow brain today!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mygrimmbrother on 03 January, 2012, 10:57:14 AM
I followed that link and had to read the whole thing, in the same way you wouldn't be able to tear your eyes away from a slow-motion car crash resulting in several fatalities. Ouch.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 January, 2012, 05:03:43 AM
I had a look at the Christmas issue of Empire and took a pic of what it said about Dredd, I wasn't gonna pay for a couple of paragraphs. Anyway it actually makes a change to see a positive piece and here it is -

QuoteJudge Dredd is without doubt the greatest British comic-book creation, and yet there's only been one movie. The Stallone one. Which was, as a citizen of Mega-City One might put it, utter stomm.

"I'm very aware of how film has fucked over comic-book creators in the past." says Alex Garland, writer and co-producer of this latest version. Keen to get it right, he and producers Andrew MacDonald and Allon Reich included Dredd creator John Wagner in the creative process. "We wanted to be sure we listened to him, that we understood what it was that we needed to protect."

The result promises to be a raw, stripped-down take, with Karl Urban a lither, less compromising (and compromised) Dredd than Sly's. Not that there's anything slight about this; the shoot wrapped in February 2011, and the film is still in VFX-heavy post. The hope remains it will prove that rare thing: a true Brit blockbuster. It was even shot in 3D, with Oscar-winning DP Anthony Dod Mantle intriguingly experimenting with the format: using negative space, emphasising facial close-ups, he tells Empire on set. "It becomes a weird landscape when you get up relly close..."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 06 January, 2012, 04:16:42 PM
Just  did a small wee in me y-fronts with excitement reading this.  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 06 January, 2012, 08:04:31 PM
The VFX company looks promising. Heres one of their many showreels.

http://www.primefocusworld.com/work/showreels/rd-showreel (http://www.primefocusworld.com/work/showreels/rd-showreel)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 January, 2012, 09:13:16 PM
There's several FX companies involved including the Mill.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 07 January, 2012, 02:39:25 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 January, 2012, 09:13:16 PM
There's several FX companies involved including the Mill.

You mean the same The Mill vfx company that worked on Gladiator ?  I thought I read a few years back they had folded, or maybe it was significantly downsized, something like that...

By the way, just saw the Crumley/Hunter script you sent in the inbox, thanks again Joe :D !
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: clavell on 07 January, 2012, 01:01:05 PM
Just finished reading that Crumley/Hunter script - thanks Joe :D

It's seems like more of a parody of Dredd than an adaptation. And as weak as it is, it wouldn't have been any worse than the Stallone one.

- C
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: maryanddavid on 09 January, 2012, 07:19:11 PM
Small metion of Dredd here, sorry if allready posted.
http://entertainment.ie.msn.com/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=160218969&page=19

David
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 January, 2012, 07:31:38 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 01 January, 2012, 01:50:51 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 01 January, 2012, 01:20:00 AM
Little write up on Empire
http://www.empireonline.com/features/2012-movie-preview/default.asp


Bad research for a start. The usual lazy mistake concerning the oft-quoted "Danny Boyle's production company DNA"; it's not his company, he doesn't own DNA nor does he have anything to do with them -or Dredd- other than he directed a few films for them before he made it to 'Hollywood'.


Quote from: maryanddavid on 09 January, 2012, 07:19:11 PM
Small metion of Dredd here, sorry if allready posted.
http://entertainment.ie.msn.com/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=160218969&page=19



QuoteThe involvement of producer Danny Boyle



Again the same old copy & paste routine with wrong info, lazy fucks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 09 January, 2012, 08:31:04 PM
Io9 seem relatively excited. Dredd's on their list of sci-fi movies to watch out for in 2012:

"Dredd (Sept. 21)
Mega City One's greatest lawman finally gets a serious film, with Karl Urban as a Dredd who never takes his helmet off. Sarah Connor and Cersei Lannister, aka Lena Headey, is the villain.
Outlook: The draft script was fun but nothing special. But the look of the film is picture-perfect, and script drafts can change."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cactus on 10 January, 2012, 10:27:19 PM
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 03 January, 2012, 07:52:15 AM
The culmination of a massive scojo fallout on imdb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/nest/192070887?p=1

I actually quite like the 'Fargo's son' idea. Does that make me a bad person?  :-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Grimmyx22 on 10 January, 2012, 11:24:59 PM
Shame on me, I think Scott is the most entertaining c**t i have yet to see on the internet. And i realize thats saying a lot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 11 January, 2012, 12:04:03 AM
The point about scripts changing is a valid one. I can remember reading somewhere that Garland's original script for 28 Days Later was pretty out there (istr a set-piece featuring zombies hanging off a jumbo jet as it takes off) and very different from what ended up on film. It also had drastically different endings at different stages.

I wonder if any changes were made to Dredd following feedback from John Wagner and Matt Smith?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 January, 2012, 12:21:54 AM
I believe that 'Peach Trees' was close to a shooting script and after Wagner's consultations with subsequent rewrites. It would make sense since it would be the one most widely distributed to actors/production and the one most likely to leak. I can't see anything major being changed other than a few minor incidentals and on-set rewrites and whatever else is changed in the edit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 January, 2012, 12:58:20 PM

This jerk try to urge all film fans to boycott Dredd film;

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1614923 (http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1614923)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 16 January, 2012, 01:19:30 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 16 January, 2012, 12:58:20 PM

This jerk try to urge all film fans to boycott Dredd film;

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1614923 (http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1614923)

He's being rightfully ridiculed for his over the top protests, which is nice.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 January, 2012, 01:56:34 PM
He really is locked in the 80s isn't he?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JamesC on 16 January, 2012, 06:18:43 PM
actually gives Kay, the perp, a sucky wucky on the willy.


:D Is that how it's described in the script? :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 January, 2012, 08:28:57 PM
On Scott, I'm slightly surprised Rebellion hasn't initiated legal action against him at some point. He's a one-man anti-PR disaster zone.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 16 January, 2012, 09:54:13 PM
It's awful but I genuinely wish someone would give that boy a good kicking. He's such a nasty little prick. How can he possibly claim to be a fan when all he tries to do is destroy every Dredd product that comes out.

Grrrrr.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 January, 2012, 10:20:18 PM
I think he's brilliant, it just goes to show you what a dedicated individual can do for a product. Perhaps Rebellion should employ him and then reboot him and set him loose with positive vibes  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 17 January, 2012, 06:06:41 AM
Hang on - is there or isn't there going to be a nude scene with Thirlby and Headly?

Because if there is, I'm totally going to boycott the movie.

If 'boycott' is slang for masturbate, that is.

I'll boycott that until my cott is raw.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 17 January, 2012, 09:28:12 AM
Quote from: Angry Vince on 17 January, 2012, 06:06:41 AM
Hang on - is there or isn't there going to be a nude scene with Thirlby and Headly?

Because if there is, I'm totally going to boycott the movie.

If 'boycott' is slang for masturbate, that is.

I'll boycott that until my cott is raw.

If there is I think we should all shun it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 January, 2012, 11:56:25 AM
As a gesture of solidarity with our esteemed colleague Scott if Dredd contains any nudity what so ever (even implied) I will not only boycott this film but every other film ever made.

Outraged from Tunbridge Wells

::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 17 January, 2012, 03:03:03 PM
Scott is a shit stain on the underpants of life,i cannot help but think of the ending too jay and silent bob strike back ,i would love to track this filth down,old joes been apart of my life for the last 28 years its like he is slagging off family >:(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ICONIC_TM on 17 January, 2012, 03:08:41 PM
Joe,s been apart of my life for the last 28 years its like he is slagging off family!

INDEED!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 17 January, 2012, 06:58:17 PM
I'll boycott this film if there's any so called porn in it -

after I've watched it. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 17 January, 2012, 07:32:56 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 17 January, 2012, 06:58:17 PM
I'll boycott this film if there's any so called porn in it -

after I've watched it. :lol:
hope my tattoo offends him! But come on a so called 2000ad fan that is upset to see judge Anderson naked :eh: :crazy: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 17 January, 2012, 08:47:33 PM
Quote from: Angry Vince on 17 January, 2012, 06:06:41 AM
Hang on - is there or isn't there going to be a nude scene with Thirlby and Headly?

Because if there is, I'm totally going to boycott the movie.

If 'boycott' is slang for masturbate, that is.

I'll boycott that until my cott is raw.



:lol: apparently  Mr 'S' is the only man in the world that doesn't like blow jobs
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 January, 2012, 08:48:41 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 17 January, 2012, 08:47:33 PM

:lol: apparently  Mr 'S' is the only man in the world that doesn't like blow jobs

Or Never been! ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 17 January, 2012, 09:05:51 PM
He has probably had the OP where you have some of your ribs removed to enable you to give yourself a blow job.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rib_removal
http://prince.org/msg/7/207639




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 17 January, 2012, 10:16:18 PM
Sc*j* is such an r-sole that if he gave himself a blowjob he wouldn't even swallow.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 17 January, 2012, 10:19:42 PM
Quote from: Angry Vince on 17 January, 2012, 10:16:18 PM
Sc*j* is such an r-sole that if he gave himself a blowjob he wouldn't even swallow.

I take that back - he probably gives himself a snowball.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 January, 2012, 10:53:30 PM
Quote from: JamesC on 16 January, 2012, 06:18:43 PM
actually gives Kay, the perp, a sucky wucky on the willy.


:D Is that how it's described in the script? :lol:

Yes
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 18 January, 2012, 06:36:34 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 January, 2012, 10:53:30 PM
Quote from: JamesC on 16 January, 2012, 06:18:43 PM
actually gives Kay, the perp, a sucky wucky on the willy.


:D Is that how it's described in the script? :lol:

Yes

Challenge for the day: I challenge everyone out there to ask their girlfriend/wife/partner/SO for a "sucky wucky on the willy".
Extra points for:
1. Asking with a straight face.
2. Not getting laughed out of bed.
3. Not getting slapped.
4. Not getting divorced.
5. Not getting compulsory therapy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 18 January, 2012, 12:40:18 PM
Anyone know why he appears to have been booted off the Empire forums? The offending post has been edited by mods. Something about privacy!?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Emperor on 18 January, 2012, 03:15:03 PM
Quote from: Angry Vince on 18 January, 2012, 06:36:34 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 January, 2012, 10:53:30 PM
Quote from: JamesC on 16 January, 2012, 06:18:43 PM
actually gives Kay, the perp, a sucky wucky on the willy.


:D Is that how it's described in the script? :lol:

Yes

Challenge for the day: I challenge everyone out there to ask their girlfriend/wife/partner/SO for a "sucky wucky on the willy".
Extra points for:
1. Asking with a straight face.
2. Not getting laughed out of bed.
3. Not getting slapped.
4. Not getting divorced.
5. Not getting compulsory therapy.

Now would be the perfect time for Russell Brand to delurk.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 January, 2012, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 18 January, 2012, 12:40:18 PM
Anyone know why he appears to have been booted off the Empire forums? The offending post has been edited by mods. Something about privacy!?!

Well, if he's pointing to the script to an unreleased film, it's not his to distribute, presumably Empire want to keep Lionsgate/IMG happy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 18 January, 2012, 08:28:06 PM
I was thinking that Emperor :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 18 January, 2012, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 18 January, 2012, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 18 January, 2012, 12:40:18 PM
Anyone know why he appears to have been booted off the Empire forums? The offending post has been edited by mods. Something about privacy!?!

Well, if he's pointing to the script to an unreleased film, it's not his to distribute, presumably Empire want to keep Lionsgate/IMG happy.

Don't think that was the problem. Privacy of 'other users' was mentioned. The script fragments are still there anyway (not that anyone can prove that they are genuine!)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 January, 2012, 08:51:07 PM
Why he kept want to bring up the script? Does anyone interesting in it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 18 January, 2012, 09:23:32 PM
He got kicked off because he is a cunt.




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 18 January, 2012, 09:29:19 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 18 January, 2012, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 18 January, 2012, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 18 January, 2012, 12:40:18 PM
Anyone know why he appears to have been booted off the Empire forums? The offending post has been edited by mods. Something about privacy!?!

Well, if he's pointing to the script to an unreleased film, it's not his to distribute, presumably Empire want to keep Lionsgate/IMG happy.
'He' kept implying one of the forumites was John Wagner.

Don't think that was the problem. Privacy of 'other users' was mentioned. The script fragments are still there anyway (not that anyone can prove that they are genuine!)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 19 January, 2012, 12:39:45 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ
'He' kept implying one of the forumites was John Wagner.
/quote]

haha which one?!  That's brilliant. And incredibly paranoid.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 19 January, 2012, 05:21:26 PM
Sauchieboy i think, began with an S.Mods were quite understanding at first but soon got sick.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 January, 2012, 07:47:44 PM
Sounds familiar...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 January, 2012, 07:49:04 PM
Indeed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 January, 2012, 07:55:44 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 19 January, 2012, 05:21:26 PM
Sauchieboy i think, began with an S.Mods were quite understanding at first but soon got sick.

Sorry I am confused?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 January, 2012, 08:27:20 PM
There was a similar thread on the IMDB boards accusing someone called Sauchieboy of being John Wagner, where that poster strung him along for a while.

Not sure where the personal information fits in, but since the thread has been pulled I don't really care...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 19 January, 2012, 08:30:50 PM
When did twatto become the main talking point to a Dredd film thread?
I know I am guilty of adding to it but still...





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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 19 January, 2012, 09:32:40 PM
There's not much else to talk about at this point. Best to nip this in the bud now anyway before everyone has to put up with his insanity when the good juicy stuff starts being released!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 19 January, 2012, 10:11:30 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 19 January, 2012, 08:30:50 PM
When did twatto become the main talking point to a Dredd film thread?
I know I am guilty of adding to it but still...

Because we are still languishing in the desert of the Dredd PR wilderness .......... :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 19 January, 2012, 10:28:12 PM
LA Times John Wagner interview, regarding DREDD.

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/01/19/judge-dredd-creator-three-reasons-im-excited-about-new-film/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 January, 2012, 10:34:49 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 19 January, 2012, 10:28:12 PM
LA Times John Wagner interview, regarding DREDD.

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/01/19/judge-dredd-creator-three-reasons-im-excited-about-new-film/

That is good interview, and LA Times reporter is good one, and like that they pick one of best Judge Dredd images (of Judgement Day)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 19 January, 2012, 11:00:40 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 19 January, 2012, 10:28:12 PM
LA Times John Wagner interview, regarding DREDD.

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/01/19/judge-dredd-creator-three-reasons-im-excited-about-new-film/

Thanks for that, very interesting.The only thing that troubled me was when John said he envied the budget of the 95' Dredd movie which echoed a similar comment he made a couple of months ago.Perhaps what he didnt actually 'see' on set is made up by state-of-the-art effects ,which these days do have the ability to blow you away.Heres hoping.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 19 January, 2012, 11:07:31 PM
QuoteTo get an early verdict on the revival prospects, we caught up with Wagner, who still works on Dredd adventures on the page but now rarely does interviews.

HEH. Adventures.






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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 January, 2012, 11:22:33 PM

Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 19 January, 2012, 11:00:40 PM
Thanks for that, very interesting.The only thing that troubled me was when John said he envied the budget of the 95' Dredd movie which echoed a similar comment he made a couple of months ago.Perhaps what he didnt actually 'see' on set is made up by state-of-the-art effects ,which these days do have the ability to blow you away.Heres hoping.


He's seen close to the final cut; the FX, as far as I know, were more or less completed last October and pick-ups shot soon after that. Why wouldn't he envy the earlier budget?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 19 January, 2012, 11:52:44 PM
Just checked -they made THAT for $70 mill  :-[Well as I live and breath, I didnt know (or even imagine) it was that high.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 19 January, 2012, 11:57:47 PM
Wasn't it the La Times that was responsible for spreading the 'creative differences' rumour/story?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 January, 2012, 12:03:07 AM
Stallone took a guestimate of $10-20 million of that budget -his fee at the time- which was actually over $90 million. Who knows how much Versace and the other over-paid studio honchos took, certainly more than Wagner & Ezquerra.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dredd_(film)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 January, 2012, 12:09:35 AM
Quote from: radiator on 19 January, 2012, 11:57:47 PM
Wasn't it the La Times that was responsible for spreading the 'creative differences' rumour/story?


They're two different blogs under the LA Times -one for films general, other more nerd orientated- I wouldn't say they know what the other's doing half the time. Not that it would matter, news is news.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 20 January, 2012, 04:38:23 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 January, 2012, 12:03:07 AM
Stallone took a guestimate of $10-20 million of that budget -his fee at the time- which was actually over $90 million. Who knows how much Versace and the other over-paid studio honchos took, certainly more than Wagner & Ezquerra.

I hate to correct anyone here, but the 1995 movie cost just over $80m, with Stallone pocketing $15m of that himself (an obscenity of a fee), I know this because someone actually asked Danny Cannon during an interview at the time of it's release - I remember it well - how much it cost, and he plainly stated "a little over $80m", or words to that effect, and if you go to the Variety  magazine website and type in 'Judge Dredd', they'll pull up a vintage article on the film that plainly states the film has a budget of $65m (with Sly's mega-salary making up the difference), but I'll bet the upcoming new movie will look just as epic on a smaller budget, digital effects technology are night-and-day both more advanced and affordable than those available in 1994/5...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 20 January, 2012, 06:58:48 AM
... here's the link for anyone interested - http://www.variety.com/article/VR117731 - it says an early '94 start but that probably means actual set construction rather than beginning of production, the movie didn't actually start filming until that July...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 20 January, 2012, 12:47:54 PM
How much did it gross at the box office? Anyone....?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 20 January, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
http://wwwl.the-numbers.com/movies/1995/0JDDR.php

Theatrical Performance
Domestic Box Office    $34,687,912
International Box Office    $78,800,000
Worldwide Box Office    $113,487,912

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 20 January, 2012, 01:08:17 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 20 January, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
http://wwwl.the-numbers.com/movies/1995/0JDDR.php

Theatrical Performance
Domestic Box Office    $34,687,912
International Box Office    $78,800,000
Worldwide Box Office    $113,487,912

Forgot to say thats not including DVD sales, which I would imagine were pretty good too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 January, 2012, 03:34:33 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 20 January, 2012, 01:08:17 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 20 January, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
http://wwwl.the-numbers.com/movies/1995/0JDDR.php

Theatrical Performance
Domestic Box Office    $34,687,912
International Box Office    $78,800,000
Worldwide Box Office    $113,487,912

Forgot to say thats not including DVD sales, which I would imagine were pretty good too.


Those are actually considered pathetic figures. A film of this budget is expected to make at the very least 2-3 times what it cost to make to be considered moderately successful or worthwhile, a great success would be multiple times that as in district 9:

Budget: $30 million
Box office: $210,816,205

and Avatar being a rare phenomenon:

Budget: $237 million

Box office: $2,782,275,172


Breaking even is more or less seen as a waste of effort and lost oppurtunity. It'll never get you a sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 20 January, 2012, 03:41:59 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 19 January, 2012, 07:55:44 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 19 January, 2012, 05:21:26 PM
Sauchieboy i think, began with an S.Mods were quite understanding at first but soon got sick.

Sorry I am confused?
He (Dreddhead) was implying Sauchieboy(think that was the name) was John Wagner untill the mods stepped in...

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 20 January, 2012, 03:56:23 PM
As I understand it, these days the big studios make most of their money from the US opening weekend.

They don't get as big a cut of the takings from subsequent showings and especially the international box office - that's why a film like The Golden Compass - which did poorly in the US but was a hit internationally - is considered a failure and wasn't granted a sequel.

Not sure how this stacks up for Dredd, with it being an independent UK/Indian-financed production (Lionsgate are only the US distributor IIRC).

With the best will in the world - and believe me I really, really want it to succeed - I just can't imagine Dredd taking the $200m+ needed to guarantee a franchise, even if it gets strong reviews/word of mouth.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 20 January, 2012, 03:59:51 PM
Also worth noting that studios generally don't include marketing costs when citing a production budget for a movie - and the advertising and promotion can cost over half the film's budget again.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 20 January, 2012, 04:05:35 PM
With product placement, overseas distribution rights, merchandising and all that other businness-ey stuff, don't a lot of films recoup a substantial bit of money before they even hit theaters nowadays? Or are those just the really big films like Green Lantern, which can fool people into thinking it's going to be a hit well in advance of people seeing it and realising it's an absolute travesty?

Lionsgate generally release kind of middle-tier genre stuff. I hope Dredd does well enough to warrant a sequel though I worry that the 3D thing is going to go against it by the time it's released. Audiences are sick of 3D and (rightfully) don't want want to pay extra for such a gimmick. I can't stand it either and only choose the regular option but unfortunately sometimes there is no choice. In which case I go see something else  :D

I'll suffer through it for Dredd if I have to.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 January, 2012, 04:11:31 PM
District 9?

The film was produced for $30 million and shot on location in Chiawelo, Soweto, presenting fictional interviews, news footage, and video from surveillance cameras in a part-mock documentary style format. A viral marketing campaign began in 2008, at the San Diego Comic-Con, while the theatrical trailer appeared in July 2009. Released by TriStar Pictures, the film opened to critical acclaim on August 14, 2009, in North America and earned $37 million in its opening weekend. Many saw the film as a sleeper hit for its relatively unknown cast and modest-budget production, while achieving success and popularity during its theatrical run.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 20 January, 2012, 04:32:14 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 19 January, 2012, 10:28:12 PM
LA Times John Wagner interview, regarding DREDD.

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/01/19/judge-dredd-creator-three-reasons-im-excited-about-new-film/

Always nice to see an interview you set up six months ago finally emerge! ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: spireite68 on 20 January, 2012, 04:33:53 PM
Just posted something similar Molch you just beat me to it  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 January, 2012, 05:27:17 PM
Quote from: radiator on 20 January, 2012, 03:59:51 PM
Also worth noting that studios generally don't include marketing costs when citing a production budget for a movie - and the advertising and promotion can cost over half the film's budget again.



Which is why the cost of Judge Dredd '95 was nearly $100 million -according to the producers- despite Cannon shooting it within the initial $70 million; Stallone also shot pick-ups in Vancouver without Cannon being involved.

The new Spider-Man film apparently cost $220 million but they've spent $150 million on marketing -I'd love to know where that marketing is- so it's total budget is creeping towards $400 million.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 21 January, 2012, 07:50:10 AM
Mega-bucks! Nearly as big as a banker's bonus or M.P.'s expenses. Astronomical sums totally divorced from the reality of most of us. So if Dredd flops, the money lost is pretty goddammed damaging for the film makers.

Look on the bright side, the omens are good - no Rob Schnieder, no taking the helmet off and no kissing. A winner with 2000ad fans surely. I wouldn't mind room in the film for a Judge Bitch though, maybe for the sequel?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 21 January, 2012, 05:56:23 PM
'He's' at it again on Empire   ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 January, 2012, 07:39:57 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 21 January, 2012, 05:56:23 PM
'He's' at it again on Empire   ::)

Seriously, why he kept posts same topics in many forums? Many media would still see him as the head fan of "Dredd club" whose not happy with new film!  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 January, 2012, 09:22:59 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 21 January, 2012, 07:50:10 AM
So if Dredd flops, the money lost is pretty goddammed damaging for the film makers.



The film-makers won't lose a penny, only those investors who funded it, which I don't think will happen. Dredd hasn't got a huge amount of money behind it so it won't be hard to make it back at least 3 times over.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 21 January, 2012, 09:44:18 PM
Well they can pan it as much as they like before it's relased but speaking from a fans point of view I'm looking forward to seeing it. in 3D! :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 21 January, 2012, 10:16:15 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 21 January, 2012, 07:39:57 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 21 January, 2012, 05:56:23 PM
'He's' at it again on Empire   ::)

Seriously, why he kept posts same topics in many forums? Many media would still see him as the head fan of "Dredd club" whose not happy with new film!  :-[

Took the time to read his posts after your post expecting the same bats**t crazy stuff I read of his from years back, but I think his meds have kicked in because there are some valid points he makes albeit in his own inimitable way.The chief villian being a hardened prostitute thereby missing a physical threat (without weaponry that is), the other main character -Mega City One that is ,not getting a big enough look in missing all it's absurdities and craziness ,but being portrayed (hopefully not) as purely a slum city, concentrating on uber-violence (again hopefully not), the lack of satire if not humour -are all valid points.The 'sex scene' I have no problem with (if handled right) ,nor the R rating ,same proviso.
Couple of questions spung to mind after reading

#Who the hell is saucieboy?

#If John Wagner has actually seen the final cut was hasnt he just said he loved it ,was pleased with it or even liked it.Not saying any of the above is a bit of a worry.I think (I may be wrong) to date, he has purely couched his response in terms of what the film got right -'good actors, right direction ,a day in the life of Dredd et al ' which as fence-sitting goes is pretty high on the splinter factor.Has he actually seen the films final version?

:-*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 January, 2012, 10:22:47 PM
Scojo's arguments/rants are always based out-of-context, in the end he fails to make any sense.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 22 January, 2012, 02:59:55 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 21 January, 2012, 10:16:15 PM
Took the time to read his posts after your post expecting the same bats**t crazy stuff I read of his from years back, but I think his meds have kicked in because there are some valid points he makes albeit in his own inimitable way.The chief villian being a hardened prostitute thereby missing a physical threat (without weaponry that is), the other main character -Mega City One that is ,not getting a big enough look in missing all it's absurdities and craziness ,but being portrayed (hopefully not) as purely a slum city, concentrating on uber-violence (again hopefully not), the lack of satire if not humour -are all valid points.The 'sex scene' I have no problem with (if handled right) ,nor the R rating ,same proviso.
Couple of questions spung to mind after reading

I wouldn't take anything Sc**o says seriously, unless he's somehow seen the final cut with finished visual effect shots included, and I'm pretty darn sure he hasn't.  He doesn't know what Mega-City One is going to look like, and he certainly hasn't seen any footage of Lena Headey's performance as Ma-Ma in the film, so I don't think he can make any assumptions about either yet!  As far as the scope and scale of Mega-City One featured in the new film, the budget is $45m not $145m, but even that notwithstanding, Alex Garland has done EXACTLY the right thing in having the main body of the film take place in a residential block, it creates claustrophobia, tension, and suspense... a bit like that obscure little independent flick that nobody's seen, what's it called again, oh yeah, Die Hard !
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 January, 2012, 03:11:53 AM
The city-block is Mega-City in miniature. In Mega-City everyone's looking for a release, an escape of some kind, either from the tedium or the Law; eveyone's a prisoner and this is condensed in the Peach Trees lock-down. It's the Judges Vs the Perps.



On a side note, just found out the Avengers has a marketing budget of $1 billion, it cost $200 million to produce the film- though I'm sure that's a lie.


(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/6646/slide1nf.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 22 January, 2012, 07:49:26 AM
So there's a Dredd basher on the Empire forum?
Why doesn't he post on here, or would he be banned?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Sector Chief on 22 January, 2012, 07:51:44 AM
I think it would be great if 2000AD and the Megazine ran a competition to win tickets to the premiere of DREDD, anyone know if anything like that is planned?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 22 January, 2012, 08:47:07 AM
Scott is a classic thrill sucker,hope when the dredd trailer comes out he gets that worked up he suffers spontaneous combustion :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 22 January, 2012, 09:08:39 AM
as this is the main resource for the Dredd movie, is it really worthwhile spamming* it with how much of Douche Scojo is.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 22 January, 2012, 09:12:19 AM
^

should we not set up a Scojo's a knobber, split this thread and leave this to the film discussion?

normally i wouldn't mind but i check on this every morning and get excited that theirs something new.. but no it's about people trawling the internet trying to find a nobodies comments, so they can be offended by it.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 22 January, 2012, 10:24:39 AM
Changing the subject from that annoyance.

I don't recall anyone mentioning Michael Biehn autioned for the lead in Dredd.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/trivia?tab=tr&item=tr1414182 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/trivia?tab=tr&item=tr1414182)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 22 January, 2012, 10:28:32 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 22 January, 2012, 10:24:39 AM
Changing the subject from that annoyance.

I don't recall anyone mentioning Michael Biehn autioned for the lead in Dredd.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/trivia?tab=tr&item=tr1414182 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/trivia?tab=tr&item=tr1414182)
AUDITIONED- Why is there no edit facility in this!  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 22 January, 2012, 10:31:04 AM
Quote from: Sector Chief on 22 January, 2012, 07:51:44 AM
I think it would be great if 2000AD and the Megazine ran a competition to win tickets to the premiere of DREDD, anyone know if anything like that is planned?

I hope so it sounds like a good idea actually.

You win tickets to the premiere if you can guess the correct identity of the DREDD basher!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fuzzed on 22 January, 2012, 12:49:52 PM
Quote from: NSFTM on 22 January, 2012, 09:12:19 AM
^

normally i wouldn't mind but i check on this every morning and get excited that theirs something new.. but no it's about people trawling the internet trying to find a nobodies comments, so they can be offended by it.

Ditto. So much.

But I think it's a lost cause because as soon as someone tries to bring it back on track, someone else veers it off to nutter land again.

Quote from: SneakeeX on 22 January, 2012, 10:28:32 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 22 January, 2012, 10:24:39 AM
Changing the subject from that annoyance.

I don't recall anyone mentioning Michael Biehn autioned for the lead in Dredd.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/trivia?tab=tr&item=tr1414182 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/trivia?tab=tr&item=tr1414182)
AUDITIONED- Why is there no edit facility in this!  :-[

I quite like Biehn (in Alien, Terminator, even that Mag7 tv series where he played Chris), but he's getting on and I think Dredd was intended to start off the story when Joe was still youngish. Still, prefer Urban if it came to a tie - saw Red and Doom recently and I'm still happy with him as Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 22 January, 2012, 02:19:11 PM
Beihn would have been decent as an older Dredd certainly. As long as he was willing to keep the pot on his noggin, obviously.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 22 January, 2012, 03:44:39 PM
So who would you guys like to see play Judge Dredd in the sequel, if there is one?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 22 January, 2012, 04:03:44 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 22 January, 2012, 03:44:39 PM
So who would you guys like to see play Judge Dredd in the sequel, if there is one?

If Urban does it well, then I say keep him in the role.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: malkymac on 22 January, 2012, 05:15:29 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 22 January, 2012, 03:44:39 PM
So who would you guys like to see play Judge Dredd in the sequel, if there is one?

I think Stephen Lang would make a good older Dredd - got the build and the look for it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 January, 2012, 05:53:00 PM
I remember when the movie was first announced, a lot of people on the forum were suggesting Adam Baldwin. Having now seen him in action in Firefly, I would agree that he'd make a good Dredd.

But I'm perfectly happy with Urban - I think he'll be great.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 January, 2012, 06:24:58 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 22 January, 2012, 04:03:44 PM
If Urban does it well, then I say keep him in the role.

As to see Urban as seriously, here the clip of him in Riddick and Bourne Supremacy (sorry for music!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXVMA78dV50 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXVMA78dV50)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 22 January, 2012, 06:53:38 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 22 January, 2012, 03:44:39 PM
So who would you guys like to see play Judge Dredd in the sequel, if there is one?


I'm sure Urban has signed for a sequel if the first film is a success.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 22 January, 2012, 07:58:57 PM
Just to hark back to movies Dredd and 2000ad might have influenced for a second: Went to a screening of the Mad Max trilogy last night which had a Q & A with Mel Gibson and was nice to hear Dredd get a mention as an influence on the style of the movies. George Miller was reading a ton of comics while he was making the movies and Dredd got a nice mention from the moderator when he was asking Mel about influences. Naturally, I clapped (like a fucking gobshite) and the moderator was like "Oh. There's one Judge Dredd fan here. Not talking about the movie." Like I needed him to tell me that! Anyways, good stuff...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 22 January, 2012, 08:34:52 PM
Cool anecdote!

Did Mel confirm whether he'd make an appearance in the new Max film?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 22 January, 2012, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 22 January, 2012, 06:24:58 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 22 January, 2012, 04:03:44 PM
If Urban does it well, then I say keep him in the role.

As to see Urban as seriously, here the clip of him in Riddick and Bourne Supremacy (sorry for music!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXVMA78dV50 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXVMA78dV50)

Cheers for that!

How many sequels would you like to see Dredd run to? As many as Bat Man, or Star Trek. Myself I'd love a T.V. srerial Animated or otherwise.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 January, 2012, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 22 January, 2012, 07:58:57 PM
Just to hark back to movies Dredd and 2000ad might have influenced for a second: Went to a screening of the Mad Max trilogy last night which had a Q & A with Mel Gibson and was nice to hear Dredd get a mention as an influence on the style of the movies.



It wore its influence  on its sleeve, or on its poster at least:


(http://www.moviegoods.com//Assets/product_images/1020/466403.1020.A.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 22 January, 2012, 10:05:17 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 22 January, 2012, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 22 January, 2012, 06:24:58 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 22 January, 2012, 04:03:44 PM
If Urban does it well, then I say keep him in the role.

As to see Urban as seriously, here the clip of him in Riddick and Bourne Supremacy (sorry for music!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXVMA78dV50 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXVMA78dV50)

Cheers for that!

How many sequels would you like to see Dredd run to? As many as Bat Man, or Star Trek. Myself I'd love a T.V. srerial Animated or otherwise.

IF there will be sequels, it'll be 2, as these things go.. Then it'll be 5 years after the third one for another reboot..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 22 January, 2012, 10:07:41 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 22 January, 2012, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 22 January, 2012, 07:58:57 PM
Just to hark back to movies Dredd and 2000ad might have influenced for a second: Went to a screening of the Mad Max trilogy last night which had a Q & A with Mel Gibson and was nice to hear Dredd get a mention as an influence on the style of the movies.



It wore its influence  on its sleeve, or on its poster at least:


(http://www.moviegoods.com//Assets/product_images/1020/466403.1020.A.jpg)


And on its shoulder pads!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 22 January, 2012, 10:17:46 PM
I've always seen the influence in Mad Max, particularly the second one, myself. Just never heard it mentioned directly from anyone on the production. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 January, 2012, 10:21:02 PM
It always seemed it was only the first Mad Max that carried the Dredd influences. The series became its own thing with the Road Warrior.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 22 January, 2012, 10:28:08 PM



(http://www.moviegoods.com//Assets/product_images/1020/466403.1020.A.jpg)
[/quote]

That is how Dredd should have looked, IMO.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 January, 2012, 10:30:31 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 22 January, 2012, 10:28:08 PMThat is how Dredd should have looked, IMO.


He kinda does in the new film, there's a good balance berween the comic and bike gear. I think it's too austere for Dredd to be as stripped-down as that image though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 January, 2012, 10:34:41 PM
Plus it looks pretty much like Fargo's proto-judge look in Origins
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 23 January, 2012, 01:51:07 AM
Hey Joe dude, I read on this newly-fangled interweb contraption that there's only 113 visual effect shots in Dredd, and not the 800 previously reported (the 800 shots mentioned are the stereoscopic 3-D shots), and that the work on the effects wrapped in October, you seem to be clued in to what's going on with Dredd, is this true, and do you have any related links for it...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 January, 2012, 02:07:33 AM
Yes it's true, at least in the context of work performed by someone who worked on the film last year:

Shahid Malik

FX Supervisor on Dredd
Prime Focus Film
Public Company; 1001-5000 employees; PFOCUS; Entertainment industry
February 2011 – October 2011 (9 months) London, United Kingdom

Created and/or specified all the 113 FX shots on Judge Dredd feature film reboot. Managed a total team of 10 FX artists.



http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/shahid-malik/22/b5/807



I don't see anything to be concerned about though, there were around 200 FX shots in the '95 Dredd which is a bigger film with more varied locations. The new Dredd was a fairly practical shoot -in one location- that doesn't use CGI as a visual crutch. I expect the CGI will be mostly backgrounds/exteriors of the city/blocks and specific incidents within the city-block itself, nothing huge. Don't forget the work of the talented cinematographer Anthiny Dod Mantle who will add so much to how it will look.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 January, 2012, 02:11:26 AM
There are also other companies besides Prime Focus that are handling FX shots such as Base Black and the Mill. Whether their work is included in this count is unknown.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 January, 2012, 02:22:57 AM
Remember there's no contextual confirmation on any of these numbers. The average modern film can have around 2000-5000 cuts these days so there could well be 800 FX shots in Dredd but it depends on the nature of the FX and whether any 3D conversion for certain shots is included in that number.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 23 January, 2012, 07:40:19 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 22 January, 2012, 10:05:17 PM
IF there will be sequels, it'll be 2, as these things go.. Then it'll be 5 years after the third one for another reboot..

Yeah that would sound about right, if we're lucky. I know from 1995 to the present day seems a long while to wait though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 23 January, 2012, 09:27:39 AM
That's not visual effects as opposed to digital effects or is the distinction no longer made ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 23 January, 2012, 10:13:31 AM
Primarily visual effects tended to be anything that wasn't on set, e.g. models/miniatures, laser blasts etc.

So visual could still include miniatures/models if they're used - not sure where something done in camera like the Lord of the Rings would sit...

Pretty sure special effects would be more on-set pyrotechnics, that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 January, 2012, 12:29:41 PM
Mmmm lots of talks about the budget, the 1995 film, effects etc...

Well To Budget, or Not To Budget, That is the Question. SO WHAT? It is good budget for new Dredd, and not over budget of "200 milions" like many blockbusters films as too many on productions, nothing on scripts! like Pirates, Transformers, Green Lantern etc.

The fact is that the film will be out in 8 MONTHS! Fuck the 1995 film, Fuck the Scott/Scojo's most saddest person in the world, Fuck the moans about lack of info of the film, just patience and wait, and it will coming.

Just very excited about film on way in Sept, I will be see it, no matters what people says or moans about the film.

And Joe Soap, you are a great person on here for update the information, thank you, and kept doing it :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 23 January, 2012, 12:55:06 PM
Hear! Hear! Goaty. I've said it once and I'll probably say it again before September. I'm really looking forward to watching this film :o with me 3d specs on!

How many times to you guys reckon you will go and see it on the big screen? Speaking for myself, I'll need to see it about 3-4 times to get my Dredd hunger fed!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 23 January, 2012, 01:38:26 PM
At least twice. Once in regular and once in 3D.






V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buddy on 23 January, 2012, 01:50:26 PM
Will go a few times if it's good.

Once if it's shit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 23 January, 2012, 01:54:09 PM
I'll probably end up going three times, even if it is shit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 23 January, 2012, 02:22:16 PM
I already told my mates I'm sitting in a posh brown chair on day of release.  I'm avoiding spoilers, don't mind seeing the odd image.

It could let me down but I'm going to give the film a very fair chance at giving me what it has got - I'll decide what I think about it afterwards.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 23 January, 2012, 02:31:31 PM
It's Dredd. It can't be shit!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 23 January, 2012, 02:40:16 PM
The last one was.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 23 January, 2012, 02:51:49 PM
Yeah I agree. Not so shit I didn't watch it 3 times. Got the dvd here too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 23 January, 2012, 03:40:56 PM
Once at the swanky digi screen at Manchesters Printworks and 2 or 3 at my local fleapit.
My guess it won't be at the flicks for ages like most BIG films so i can see two weeks of excessive motorbike trips too and from.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 23 January, 2012, 04:17:16 PM
Seeing as there's next to no chance of it playing first run at my local odeon, and only a scant possibility of it playing evenings for a week second run, id imagine i'll rent it on dvd about xmastime.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 23 January, 2012, 04:23:33 PM
Yeah, I'll have to pay for transport to get to the nearest cinema, it also depends on the price of the tickets.

How much did it cost to see avatar in 3d...does anyone know?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 23 January, 2012, 04:26:37 PM
Weirdly, there's a chance that I might be living in America by the time Dredd comes out!

Hope there'll be somewhere showing it close by...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 23 January, 2012, 04:30:11 PM
Why's that radiator, work, or are you emigrating?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 January, 2012, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: radiator on 23 January, 2012, 04:26:37 PM
Weirdly, there's a chance that I might be living in America by the time Dredd comes out!


Extradition huh.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buddy on 23 January, 2012, 07:28:55 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 23 January, 2012, 04:17:16 PM
Seeing as there's next to no chance of it playing first run at my local odeon, and only a scant possibility of it playing evenings for a week second run, id imagine i'll rent it on dvd about xmastime.

SBT

There's a thought... will it be out on DVD/Bluray by Xmas.

With a September theatrical release date I'd doubt it would be.

Anyone know if a DVD date has been set yet?? (assuming it isn't straight to DVD!!)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 23 January, 2012, 08:38:56 PM
Why do people keep saying straight to DVD. Have you got cloth in your ears or something.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 January, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
Word from John Wagner:



The reshoots went well and the editing, I'm told, is now complete. VFX are looking cool. They expect to have the score, sound and other technical stuff finished in February.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 23 January, 2012, 09:12:27 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 January, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
Word from John Wagner:



The reshoots went well and the editing, I'm told, is now complete. VFX are looking cool. They expect to have the score, sound and other technical stuff finished in February.

This is great news and explains a lot.No way would John Wagner give his verdict on a film that wasnt completely finished ,so thats reassuring why he hasnt done so to date.Glad to see he thinks he FX are cool as well :cool:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 23 January, 2012, 10:42:44 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 January, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
Word from John Wagner:



The reshoots went well and the editing, I'm told, is now complete. VFX are looking cool. They expect to have the score, sound and other technical stuff finished in February.


Frikkin A!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fuzzed on 23 January, 2012, 10:51:32 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 January, 2012, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: radiator on 23 January, 2012, 04:26:37 PM
Weirdly, there's a chance that I might be living in America by the time Dredd comes out!


Extradition huh.

*g*

Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 23 January, 2012, 09:12:27 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 January, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
Word from John Wagner:



The reshoots went well and the editing, I'm told, is now complete. VFX are looking cool. They expect to have the score, sound and other technical stuff finished in February.

This is great news and explains a lot.No way would John Wagner give his verdict on a film that wasnt completely finished ,so thats reassuring why he hasnt done so to date.Glad to see he thinks he FX are cool as well :cool:

So, bearing all that in mind, what's the guestimate now on when a trailer is likely? I'm not badgering, just curious - all this industry talk is totally new to me, and it's interesting.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 January, 2012, 10:59:02 PM
March or after but maybe more stills inbetween.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 23 January, 2012, 11:11:36 PM
That all sounds very encouraging especially if Mr Wagner sounds content. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 24 January, 2012, 12:48:09 AM
Once.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 24 January, 2012, 03:23:00 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 January, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
Word from John Wagner:
The reshoots went well and the editing, I'm told, is now complete. VFX are looking cool. They expect to have the score, sound and other technical stuff finished in February.[/i]

Firstly, cheers again for the info Joe, you're a diamond geezer :thumbsup:, but what I will also say is that's a great update from John Wagner, he genuinely seems enthused and well pleased with the film (and that's the only seal of approval on Dredd I'll rely one in advance), but if all post-production wraps in February (I think a teaser trailer will be released in time for 2000 AD's 35th anniversary in March), we still have to wait another SEVEN FLIPPIN' MONTHS to see the finished film, aw c'mon :D...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 24 January, 2012, 03:58:29 AM
Quote from: Buddy on 23 January, 2012, 07:28:55 PM
There's a thought... will it be out on DVD/Bluray by Xmas.
With a September theatrical release date I'd doubt it would be.
Anyone know if a DVD date has been set yet?? (assuming it isn't straight to DVD!!)

If Dredd is released in late September, which it is, the DVD and Bluray release will likely be January, or maybe just before Christmas to capitalise on the pressies-buying season.  What special features would you lot hope to be included on the home release formats; audio commentary, 'making of' doc (then we can all see what Michaelvk looks like in the flesh :lol:), featurettes on costumes/visual effects/fight and weapons training/production design/the look of MC-1/etc, a documentary on the origins, development, and influence of the comic-book, y'know, things like that... also hope it's a two-disc set so all memory capacity on the disc with the actual film on it is concentrated on presenting the very best picture and sound quality that technology can produce...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 24 January, 2012, 07:02:36 AM
Quote
If DreddWhat special features would you lot hope to be included on the home release

A commentary by Scojo 8-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 24 January, 2012, 07:11:44 AM
Ace to base.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 January, 2012, 08:41:38 AM

What would ruined the future sequels of this film? The illegal download of the movie.  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 24 January, 2012, 09:39:09 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 24 January, 2012, 08:41:38 AM

What would ruined the future sequels of this film?

Scojo swapping the reels for his own fan film!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 24 January, 2012, 10:13:00 AM
Apparently Dredd has some new competition:

Relativity also pushed back the Jennifer Lawrence-starrer House at the End of the Street from April 20th to September 21st. The horror thriller will go up against Dredd and Hotel Transylvania on the new release date.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=86242 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=86242)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 January, 2012, 10:44:50 AM
I wouldn't call that competition.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 24 January, 2012, 11:00:42 AM
Thanks Joe.

I was going to say something like that but didn't want to be accused of being shallow. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fuzzed on 24 January, 2012, 11:48:29 AM
Jennifer Lawrence? I have no idea who that is.

Hotel Transylvania? Again, no idea, except it sounds vampish and oh my lord, will they not die already?!! I have had it up to - here - with vamps. Despite the fact I didn't like Priest much, it was still the best vamp movie just for the post-apocalyptic vibe, the barren desserts, walled cities, steampunkish gear and, more importantly, total downlow on smouldering vamps in silk and whatnots.

I hope the dvd release is packed with specials ala LOTR style. I doubt it but I'm hoping desperately for it. I want to see at least an hour spent on Dredd's helmet alone. Commentary of course, but a choice with the option to hear the director/prods/Anthony Dod etc, another with the actors. Wagner and others behind the comic would be good too, but failing that, a special on them alone.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fuzzed on 24 January, 2012, 11:51:22 AM
Deserts!

*joins the edit-button-pitchfork-posse*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 24 January, 2012, 12:03:37 PM
Quote from: Fuzzed on 24 January, 2012, 11:48:29 AM
Jennifer Lawrence? I have no idea who that is.

The young Mystique from X-Men: First Class.  She purdy.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 January, 2012, 01:09:54 PM
Jennifer Lawrence, of X-Men First Class, but House at the End of the Street is not competition for Dredd!

Joe Soap, cant believe what I read on Empire Forum about Dredd today, how still annoyed was Scojo!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 24 January, 2012, 02:39:40 PM
While Wagner has been positive about the film, the most recent statements from him seem to me somewhat lukewarm - cautiously optimistic rather than high praise. It's hard to tell, as Wagner tends to talk in a very even-handed way - it can be hard to discern, but the I didn't find as much to get excited about in the LA Times interview as many others.

The confirmation of reshoots is a little worrying also (and might lend a bit of credence to the 'creative differences' rumours - I assumed they were just filming pickups in London rater than reshoots. I wonder if Travis was involved?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 24 January, 2012, 03:22:45 PM
'Reshoots' doesnt actually mean they have ditched a whole setup, no matter how good your storyboard and DOP etc etc there is always a chance of something missed, and not an indication of anything negative going on.

To me it shows they are polishing rather than just working with what they have got .....

Anyone reflecting on the rather lukewarm comments about the behind the scenes 'news' ought to watch 'The Making Of RoboCop' as an example of on set problems etc often meaning sod all to the success of the finished film.

Over budget, over deadline, and the first action film by a 'new' director, the set was frequented by the financers worried over their investment, and a horrid place to work, esp in the 110 odd degrees heat of the set.

The suit was taken one direction only to be redesigned at the last minute, a result of which meant the SFX artist (Rob Bottin) behind it wouldnt even speak to the Director. The suit itself only arrived on set the day of the first day of filming- and took a further 11 hours to finish fit over Peter Weller. He'd trained his robot movements with a choreographer for months only to find that with the suit on all the training wouldnt work.
The suit was considered pivotal point of the film, dont forget.

Oh- and dont forget the reshoots and delays The Predator went through when the original design of suit failed to perform on site..

Read Luc Besson's The Fifth Element book and you would think he hated every moment on set ( he prob did)

Most of the crew hated Ridley Scott while shooting Blade Runner

None of them turned out as bad movies....



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 24 January, 2012, 03:44:54 PM
I think people have got a tendency to fear the worst at the drop of a hat about the new Dredd film. I didn't read any negativity into John Wagner's comments at all. I'm trying to remain cautiously optimistic about it all.

Quote from: Teivion on 24 January, 2012, 03:22:45 PM
None of them turned out as bad movies....

...except the Fifth Element, that was a pile of shit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 24 January, 2012, 03:49:53 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 24 January, 2012, 03:44:54 PM
...except the Fifth Element, that was a pile of shit.

Report to Mek-Quake for 'reconditioning', earthlet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 24 January, 2012, 03:51:15 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 24 January, 2012, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 24 January, 2012, 03:22:45 PM
None of them turned out as bad movies....

...except the Fifth Element, that was a pile of shit.

Just goes to show how its all subjective.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 January, 2012, 03:52:44 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 24 January, 2012, 03:44:54 PM
...except the Fifth Element, that was a pile of shit.

Nah, it's awsome! Very simple of Mega-City and Police uniforms to Judges!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 24 January, 2012, 04:00:17 PM
Oh yeah, I think some of the design work is great. The city, vehicles, costumes are all cool.

The story though; crap. It's nerdy wish fulfilment, sub - 'magical girlfriend anime' wank fantasy.

The alien grunts; crap. The Saturday Morning Cartoon baddies; crap, Chris Tucker; The Worst Thing Ever Commited To Film, the comedy monks; crap. That's all I can remember about it now. I've purged my brain of the rest of the awfulness.

Of course, this is all just my opinion. If you dig it, fair do's.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 24 January, 2012, 04:06:38 PM
Hotel Transylvania is a 3D animation, appealing to families.

House at the End of the Street looks like the date movie of the weekend. It's low budget with a female lead, and a cynical guess would be that it's not expected to do well and has been pushed closer to the Halloween flicks to get some business.

I'd be more concerned about the previous week's Argo -- the true story of a rescue during the Iranian Hostage Crisis. That's going to get a lot of attention in America. Also the Bruce Willis helmed Looper sounds like it'll crush Dredd's second weekend.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fuzzed on 24 January, 2012, 04:57:20 PM
It really is all subjective; I absolutely loved Fifth Element, thought it was funny as hell, fell in love with Milla, fell in love with Gary Oldman all over again and adored Ian Holm. And I liked Tucker too.

Whereas Argo? I'd run the other way.

Looper, I'd see that, but I think crushing is a bit extreme. There's a likely overlap of target audience there, so I'm still optimistic. I can't be the only one who'll see both.

And re Wagner - the man's been burnt once already. If I were him, I'd definitely be cautious too. I'm trying to imagine myself in his shoes - dream come true, something you create is getting the big movie treatment, and what happens? In your face codpiece. Gutted.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 24 January, 2012, 07:55:18 PM
Do you think there will be a 1 minute documentary on the PR of the dredd film when we get a dvd blu-ray? ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 24 January, 2012, 08:43:06 PM
Quote from: Psidude on 24 January, 2012, 07:55:18 PM
Do you think there will be a 1 minute documentary on the PR of the dredd film when we get a dvd blu-ray? ;)

Now you are just being silly...


...it won't be that long.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 January, 2012, 08:44:03 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 24 January, 2012, 08:43:06 PM
Quote from: Psidude on 24 January, 2012, 07:55:18 PM
Do you think there will be a 1 minute documentary on the PR of the dredd film when we get a dvd blu-ray? ;)

Now you are just being silly...


...it won't be that long.

well there is 24 frames in one second? So... about 12 frames worth of Documentary?  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 24 January, 2012, 08:49:14 PM
very good guys :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 24 January, 2012, 11:13:23 PM

Just seen The Darkest Hour with Olivia Thirlby in it.This movie is slated by so-called critics on IMBD but I
actually enjoyed it.The premise was very interesting , the effects were good and it had some unique action scenes (that alone puts it above a lot of films).It lacked a high quality script and characterisation and included a fair number of dubious if not dumb  choices made by the characters, but they were teenagers after all (those who perennially chose to investigate a 'strange noise' outside ,armed only with a flashlight and lots of testostrone).
Given what she had to work with, which is what you can only judge someone on, I think Olivia Thirlby was great in it, I now have higher expectations for her as Anderson and that she will deliver. :) 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 25 January, 2012, 01:34:28 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 24 January, 2012, 11:13:23 PMI think Olivia Thirlby was great in it,

I have to agree, that film wasn't too bad considering it's budget but she was just about the only memorable thing in the movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 25 January, 2012, 06:56:34 AM
You can never trust film reviews. I've read lots that have panned a film only to find out later when I got round to viewing it that it was really good, and vice versa. It seems a lot of these so called reviews are politically motivated by those in the film industry. My guess is the critics are going to give DREDD about 2 ## out of ##### , but that the film itself for a general audience would be much in the way you've described The Darkest hour, and that 2000ad fans will love it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 25 January, 2012, 03:21:02 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 24 January, 2012, 11:13:23 PM[It] included a fair number of dubious if not dumb  choices made by the characters, but they were teenagers after all (those who perennially chose to investigate a 'strange noise' outside ,armed only with a flashlight and lots of testostrone).

That's also one of the more annoying criticisms levelled at horror films. I'd hazard a guess most people in real life do indeed investigate strange noises because, y'know. The whole killer lying-in-wait thing? That sort only happens to other people. Or those idiots wot populate all those stupid horror films.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 25 January, 2012, 03:52:08 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 25 January, 2012, 06:56:34 AM
You can never trust film reviews. I've read lots that have panned a film only to find out later when I got round to viewing it that it was really good, and vice versa. It seems a lot of these so called reviews are politically motivated by those in the film industry.

Very true. I've had the same experience. The film will be fine no matter what as a kind of a pantomime homage to the comic. Although Hollywood would love us all to think film is the higher medium, it's not, the comic cannot be surpassed in this case. Like great books, the medium and story are one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Third Estate Ned on 25 January, 2012, 06:38:38 PM
I agree with the S. Moore about the comic being the primary medium for the character, regardless of how the film is. It reminded me of another Moore's comment, when he was discussing Watchmen the film vs. the comic.

"When it's just lines on paper, the reader is in control of the experience – it's a tableau vivant. And that gives it the necessary distance. It's not the same when you're being dragged through it at 24 frames per second."

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/mar/16/alan-moore-watchmen-lost-girls (http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/mar/16/alan-moore-watchmen-lost-girls)

I love daydreaming about MC1 when I see better examples of the artwork. Recent examples I liked were in Mandroid and the Henry Flint collection. If the film doesn't work out the way we want, it's just one party's vision of what everyone else has their own mental version of. Alternatively, even if the comic can't be surpassed, the film might provide a new way of considering what we see on the page and could improve the experience.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 25 January, 2012, 06:40:12 PM
Regarding the documentary side of things.. I got interviewed for a bit longer than a second on what I was up to.. Unless it gets cut out because of you-know-what..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: weehawk on 25 January, 2012, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 24 January, 2012, 03:22:45 PM
'Reshoots' doesnt actually mean they have ditched a whole setup, no matter how good your storyboard and DOP etc etc there is always a chance of something missed, and not an indication of anything negative going on.

To me it shows they are polishing rather than just working with what they have got .....

Anyone reflecting on the rather lukewarm comments about the behind the scenes 'news' ought to watch 'The Making Of RoboCop' as an example of on set problems etc often meaning sod all to the success of the finished film.

Over budget, over deadline, and the first action film by a 'new' director, the set was frequented by the financers worried over their investment, and a horrid place to work, esp in the 110 odd degrees heat of the set.

The suit was taken one direction only to be redesigned at the last minute, a result of which meant the SFX artist (Rob Bottin) behind it wouldnt even speak to the Director. The suit itself only arrived on set the day of the first day of filming- and took a further 11 hours to finish fit over Peter Weller. He'd trained his robot movements with a choreographer for months only to find that with the suit on all the training wouldnt work.
The suit was considered pivotal point of the film, dont forget.

Oh- and dont forget the reshoots and delays The Predator went through when the original design of suit failed to perform on site..

Read Luc Besson's The Fifth Element book and you would think he hated every moment on set ( he prob did)

Most of the crew hated Ridley Scott while shooting Blade Runner

None of them turned out as bad movies....

  ...and don't forget James Cameron with The Terminator.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: clavell on 25 January, 2012, 07:17:14 PM
Quote from: weehawk on 25 January, 2012, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 24 January, 2012, 03:22:45 PM
'Reshoots' doesnt actually mean they have ditched a whole setup, no matter how good your storyboard and DOP etc etc there is always a chance of something missed, and not an indication of anything negative going on.

To me it shows they are polishing rather than just working with what they have got .....

Anyone reflecting on the rather lukewarm comments about the behind the scenes 'news' ought to watch 'The Making Of RoboCop' as an example of on set problems etc often meaning sod all to the success of the finished film.

Over budget, over deadline, and the first action film by a 'new' director, the set was frequented by the financers worried over their investment, and a horrid place to work, esp in the 110 odd degrees heat of the set.

The suit was taken one direction only to be redesigned at the last minute, a result of which meant the SFX artist (Rob Bottin) behind it wouldnt even speak to the Director. The suit itself only arrived on set the day of the first day of filming- and took a further 11 hours to finish fit over Peter Weller. He'd trained his robot movements with a choreographer for months only to find that with the suit on all the training wouldnt work.
The suit was considered pivotal point of the film, dont forget.

Oh- and dont forget the reshoots and delays The Predator went through when the original design of suit failed to perform on site..

Read Luc Besson's The Fifth Element book and you would think he hated every moment on set ( he prob did)

Most of the crew hated Ridley Scott while shooting Blade Runner

None of them turned out as bad movies....

  ...and don't forget James Cameron with The Terminator.

And on "Aliens" as well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 25 January, 2012, 07:41:58 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 25 January, 2012, 06:56:34 AM
You can never trust film reviews. I've read lots that have panned a film only to find out later when I got round to viewing it that it was really good, and vice versa. It seems a lot of these so called reviews are politically motivated by those in the film industry. My guess is the critics are going to give DREDD about 2 ## out of ##### , but that the film itself for a general audience would be much in the way you've described The Darkest hour, and that 2000ad fans will love it.
The thing is with reviewers is that if a film that they have been sent to watch is not their cup of tea then they will mark it down. I have never been influenced a film on a review alone. Someones goose is anothers gander.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 January, 2012, 08:50:01 PM
Quote from: clavell on 25 January, 2012, 07:17:14 PM
Quote from: weehawk on 25 January, 2012, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 24 January, 2012, 03:22:45 PM

Most of the crew hated Ridley Scott while shooting Blade Runner

None of them turned out as bad movies....

  ...and don't forget James Cameron with The Terminator.



And on "Aliens" as well.

And he was shooting at people on Titanic!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 January, 2012, 08:50:57 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 25 January, 2012, 08:50:01 PM
And he was shooting at people on Titanic!

Oop sorry that was French and Saunders Spoof on (Making of) Titanic! Lol  :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pakvWy8I59A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pakvWy8I59A)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 25 January, 2012, 08:52:30 PM
Dear vzzbxxx

I know that, you know that, but do the...

Thing is, if a film gets a load of bad reviews it gets a bad reputation as being a turkey, (Dredd1) which is bad for the morale of the true fans.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 January, 2012, 08:59:37 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 25 January, 2012, 08:52:30 PM
Thing is, if a film gets a load of bad reviews it gets a bad reputation as being a turkey, (Dredd1) which is bad for the morale of the true fans.


...but that film deservedly got bad reviews and was rightly buried.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 25 January, 2012, 09:01:07 PM
Quote from: Stewart Kenneth Moore on 25 January, 2012, 03:52:08 PM


Very true. I've had the same experience. The film will be fine no matter what as a kind of a pantomime homage to the comic. Although Hollywood would love us all to think film is the higher medium, it's not, the comic cannot be surpassed in this case. Like great books, the medium and story are one.

Asterix the Gaul is another example of this. A wonderful strip that just got turned into a very bad film. There is a new version of Tin Tin coming, will that live up to the books' standards? O.K. it's a hard job to cram a few years worth of storytelling into a 2 hour long film, but they always seem to fall far short of expectations. The Great Gatsby was another disaster. I'd like to see Dredd as an half hour series for T.V., this worked with The Xmen I thought. Why not Dredd?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 January, 2012, 09:08:04 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 25 January, 2012, 09:01:07 PM
There is a new version of Tin Tin coming, will that live up to the books' standards?


Coming? It's been and gone since last year.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 25 January, 2012, 09:09:45 PM
QuoteI'd like to see Dredd as an half hour series for T.V., this worked with The Xmen I thought. Why not Dredd?

1. Because Dredd is unknown in the US - the biggest market for that sort of thing.

2. Because Dredd, by it's nature, is violent and controversial and would never, ever be greenlit for a kid's cartoon for these reasons. Strip out the violence and the satire and you're left with Lawman of the Future, and we all know how that turned out.

3. Dredd is totally obscure compared to a tried and tested property like X Men.

Dredd made as a proper grown up drama by one of the big US networks - something like The Pit, like Hill Street Blues set in the future - would be mind-blowingly good. It's never gonna happen though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 25 January, 2012, 09:15:03 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 25 January, 2012, 09:01:07 PMI'd like to see Dredd as an half hour series for T.V., this worked with The Xmen I thought. Why not Dredd?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IzSGvXc_PM
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IzSGvXc_PM)
Really?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 25 January, 2012, 09:39:34 PM
I wouldn't rule out Dredd working as on T.V at all as long as it is treated with some respect. I would much prefer to see an anime version along the lines of Gungrave or Ghost in the Shell with intelligent writing and a proper story arc, aimed at an adult audience. Otherwise if you're talking about the Saturday morning cartoon stuff I say don't even bother.

Above all I want to see it done properly on film first.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 25 January, 2012, 09:40:49 PM
I think Dredd is probably as well known as stuff like Green Lantern or Iron Man, to be honest. People are familiar with the idea, if not the details. Even if they're familiar with the character primarily from the Stallone film, they're still aware of the concept and open to seeing a 'grim and gritty' take on it.

Do people even need to be familiar with the concept anyway? Positive word of mouth works better than anything else, in my opinion. Worked for District 9.

Also I do think there is a distinction between a film reviewer and film critic. The former is more heavily based on subjective opinion/prejudice (I don't like westerns etc.) while the latter is more concerned about taking a film at face value and finding out if it succeeds or fails in its intended goals, whether they be genre-based or what-have-you.

The only kind of film that is entirely subjective is comedy.  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 25 January, 2012, 11:37:35 PM
Green Lantern and Ironman are probably a heck of a lot more well known in USA than Dredd.

Quote from: radiator on 25 January, 2012, 09:09:45 PM

QuoteI'd like to see Dredd as an half hour series for T.V., this worked with The Xmen I thought. Why not Dredd?

1. Because Dredd is unknown in the US - the biggest market for that sort of thing.

2. Because Dredd, by it's nature, is violent and controversial and would never, ever be greenlit for a kid's cartoon for these reasons. Strip out the violence and the satire and you're left with Lawman of the Future, and we all know how that turned out.

3. Dredd is totally obscure compared to a tried and tested property like X Men.

Dredd made as a proper grown up drama by one of the big US networks - something like The Pit, like Hill Street Blues set in the future - would be mind-blowingly good. It's never gonna happen though.

What Radiator said, enumeration & final summary.  It 'could' be down brilliantly as a TV series but sadly that isn't likely either side of the pond.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jared Katooie on 25 January, 2012, 11:38:21 PM
Can we please call this film by its correct title?

It's not 'Dredd', it's DR3DD.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 25 January, 2012, 11:46:03 PM
Says who? Still billed as Dredd on IMDB.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 26 January, 2012, 12:12:03 AM
Quote from: Bat King on 25 January, 2012, 11:37:35 PM
Green Lantern and Ironman are probably a heck of a lot more well known in USA than Dredd.

Iron Man, maybe. But before the film came out, I don't think GL was very well known. Probably why it spent SO much time trying to explain every nuance of continuity throughout that awful, awful film.

Again, i think JD and the idea is at least as well known as that character based purely on the fact there was already a big budget blockbuster made 15 years ago. Poeple still talk about how terrible it is :P

Hell I'm pretty sure I saw it referenced in an episode of Community not too long ago!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 January, 2012, 12:58:00 AM
Hey I don't know if anyone has brought this up before, but I was watching Magnum Force (Dirty Harry) the other day and realised that the intro is the same as the intro for the leaked script. Thought it was pretty clever of Garland considering Judge Dredd was partially  inspired by Dirty Harry.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 January, 2012, 01:18:48 AM
It's one shot that's similar in the intro to Dredd the character.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 26 January, 2012, 07:13:37 AM
I'd still like to see a series of ~Judge Dredd. After the 9.00 watershed of course, although that's lost it's relevance nowadays.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 26 January, 2012, 11:03:42 AM
Green Lantern and Iron Man are INFINITELY more popular and well known than Dredd, especially in the US.

It still surprises me just how much fans of Dredd overestimate the popularity and marketability of the property.

In terms of broad awareness I'd say it's more on the level of something like Jonah Hex.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 26 January, 2012, 11:06:16 AM
Conversely I'd say a lot of us underestimate the cultural impact he has had in the UK. It often surprises me when he's mentioned in mainstream press or caricatured but it really shouldn't.   
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 26 January, 2012, 11:20:59 AM
QuoteConversely I'd say a lot of us underestimate the cultural impact he has had in the UK.

Yeah, in the UK. Even so, I'd be willing to bet that most people would be surprised to learn that Dredd/2000ad is still going. But everywhere else, he is known - pretty much exclusively - for the Stallone film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 26 January, 2012, 11:50:01 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 26 January, 2012, 12:12:03 AM
Quote from: Bat King on 25 January, 2012, 11:37:35 PM
Green Lantern and Ironman are probably a heck of a lot more well known in USA than Dredd.

Iron Man, maybe. But before the film came out, I don't think GL was very well known. Probably why it spent SO much time trying to explain every nuance of continuity throughout that awful, awful film.

Again, i think JD and the idea is at least as well known as that character based purely on the fact there was already a big budget blockbuster made 15 years ago. Poeple still talk about how terrible it is :P

Hell I'm pretty sure I saw it referenced in an episode of Community not too long ago!

Quote from: radiator on 26 January, 2012, 11:03:42 AM
Green Lantern and Iron Man are INFINITELY more popular and well known than Dredd, especially in the US.

It still surprises me just how much fans of Dredd overestimate the popularity and marketability of the property.

In terms of broad awareness I'd say it's more on the level of something like Jonah Hex.

Look here, http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2011/2011-12.html, as Radiator says, Green Lantern is pure and simply way ahead of any 2000AD character in USA.  Quite why anyone thinks that one of the top DC characters can be less well known in USA than Judge Dredd is beyond me.

Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Green Arrow. In other words the central characters of Justice League since Silver Age...  They outsell Marvel.

Don't misunderstand how well the UK market knows US products with how well USA know UK products - in almost any market.  US Comics, TV & Film have constantly been imported to UK.  USA mostly watch and buy domestic products.

Of course as a Dredd fan I know they are missing out.  If they give 2000AD a far crack it should be a huge market force.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 26 January, 2012, 11:50:56 AM
Quote from: radiator on 26 January, 2012, 11:20:59 AM
QuoteConversely I'd say a lot of us underestimate the cultural impact he has had in the UK.

Yeah, in the UK. Even so, I'd be willing to bet that most people would be surprised to learn that Dredd/2000ad is still going. But everywhere else, he is known - pretty much exclusively - for the Stallone film.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 26 January, 2012, 12:41:14 PM
I accept it's only wishful thinking on my part. I never really thought of Dredd being a cult thing though. Well not in the U.K.. Him becoming a cult figure would be as bad as him becoming Disneyfied by the American markets.... "buy your Judge Dredd pencil case.." :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 26 January, 2012, 12:49:24 PM
Mega City One Theme Park.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 26 January, 2012, 03:55:24 PM
Hate to say it but beyond a hardcore bunch of comic fans, Dredd isn't well-known at all over here in Los Angeles. Even finding Dredd material in the well-known comic stores is a tough slog. People may not know the ins and outs of Green Lantern but they are at the very least aware he's a comic property in the same way they know that with Thor and Iron Man. Dredd is associated first and foremost as a movie Stallone was in that cost way too much and everyone laughed at as his career flew into a mountain. And everyone mixes it up with Demolition Man. So that's great.

To be honest, as we get closer to September, I'm starting to get a little concerned about what kind of reception it'll get. I don't know what Priest brought in box office wise but I can't help but think it'll be treated, marketed and received similarly as in an extreme niche release.

Also, I know we've been through the whole "director locked out of Dredd" nonsense and come through the other side but that story really seems to have stuck in people's consciousness. It made pretty big news here when it came out and I'm willing to (sadly) take bets that practically every review will begin with that story.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 26 January, 2012, 04:51:44 PM
If it's a good Dredd film that sticks to the feel and badassitude of the comic then I think the yanks will be in for a shock.

If.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 January, 2012, 07:06:33 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 26 January, 2012, 03:55:24 PM
Hate to say it but beyond a hardcore bunch of comic fans, Dredd isn't well-known at all over here in Los Angeles...
Also, I know we've been through the whole "director locked out of Dredd" nonsense and come through the other side but that story really seems to have stuck in people's consciousness. It made pretty big news here when it came out and I'm willing to (sadly) take bets that practically every review will begin with that story.


Was it pretty big news to people who never heard or Dredd?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 26 January, 2012, 07:12:55 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 26 January, 2012, 04:51:44 PM
If it's a good Dredd film that sticks to the feel and badassitude of the comic then I think the yanks will be in for a shock.

If.

Only another eight or so months and we can find out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 26 January, 2012, 07:16:17 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 January, 2012, 07:06:33 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 26 January, 2012, 03:55:24 PM
Hate to say it but beyond a hardcore bunch of comic fans, Dredd isn't well-known at all over here in Los Angeles...
Also, I know we've been through the whole "director locked out of Dredd" nonsense and come through the other side but that story really seems to have stuck in people's consciousness. It made pretty big news here when it came out and I'm willing to (sadly) take bets that practically every review will begin with that story.


Was it pretty big news to people who never heard or Dredd?

Y'know, it kinda was.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 27 January, 2012, 12:43:02 AM
Quote from: Bat King on 26 January, 2012, 11:50:01 AM
Look here, http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2011/2011-12.html, as Radiator says, Green Lantern is pure and simply way ahead of any 2000AD character in USA.  Quite why anyone thinks that one of the top DC characters can be less well known in USA than Judge Dredd is beyond me.

Those are comic book fans. I'm talking about normal people  :D

Quote from: blackmocco on 26 January, 2012, 03:55:24 PM
Dredd is associated first and foremost as a movie Stallone was in that cost way too much and everyone laughed at as his career flew into a mountain.

This is my point: people are aware of the character/property even if it is a negative association.

I don't think it's all that important anyway, frankly. Did it help the likes of Ghost Rider or Green Lantern? Or Watchmen?!

If the films good, it'll help spread good word of mouth. It's the kind of film, like District 9, that can build buzz and 'come out of nowhere'. Alternatively it'll suck and flop  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 27 January, 2012, 03:31:20 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 26 January, 2012, 03:55:24 PM
Hate to say it but beyond a hardcore bunch of comic fans, Dredd isn't well-known at all over here in Los Angeles. Even finding Dredd material in the well-known comic stores is a tough slog. People may not know the ins and outs of Green Lantern but they are at the very least aware he's a comic property in the same way they know that with Thor and Iron Man. Dredd is associated first and foremost as a movie Stallone was in that cost way too much and everyone laughed at as his career flew into a mountain. And everyone mixes it up with Demolition Man. So that's great.
To be honest, as we get closer to September, I'm starting to get a little concerned about what kind of reception it'll get. I don't know what Priest brought in box office wise but I can't help but think it'll be treated, marketed and received similarly as in an extreme niche release.
Also, I know we've been through the whole "director locked out of Dredd" nonsense and come through the other side but that story really seems to have stuck in people's consciousness. It made pretty big news here when it came out and I'm willing to (sadly) take bets that practically every review will begin with that story.

Would I be naive in believing if Dredd turns out to be something of a corker, all the negative memories of That-1995-Movie and the (completely unsubstantiated) rumours of discontent between Pete Travis and the Dredd producers will be forgotten about, and Dredd will be both redeemed and accepted as a viable cinematic property... I certainly hope so, I really - no, make that REALLY - wanna see a sequel with you-know-who in it, and with the DNA Films' guys handling the property right now, I think it's at least a 60/40 shot in favour of a Dredd sequel (around the $65-$70m range) getting a greenlight...!?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: klute on 27 January, 2012, 09:34:52 AM
Has there been any indication when they will start with publicity for Dredd if so and i've missed it apology's.

By publicity i mean aside from the odd interview and picture here and there?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 27 January, 2012, 12:34:25 PM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 27 January, 2012, 03:31:20 AM
Would I be naive in believing if Dredd turns out to be something of a corker, all the negative memories of That-1995-Movie and the (completely unsubstantiated) rumours of discontent between Pete Travis and the Dredd producers will be forgotten about, and Dredd will be both redeemed and accepted as a viable cinematic property
The quality of the film is largely irrelevant—it's the US box office that will be the most important thing, with the second most important thing being the overall box office. Judging by other relatively niche properties, it really needs to bring in at least 1.5x its budget (and preferably 2x) to have any realistic chance of a sequel. So for a Dredd II, I'm guessing we'd need a box take in the $70m–$90m range. The upper end of that is what Hellboy managed back in 2004, so it is achievable, assuming it's a film that is well and appropriately marketed. If we're extremely lucky, we'll see a take like District 9 ($210m!); if not, we'll see something like Serenity (matching its budget, and thereby making a loss at the cinema) or the depressingly dismal take of the wonderful Attack the Block (under $6m, taking about half its budget).

Sometimes sequels can also be green-lit off the back of massive clean-up in terms of downloads/rentals/shiny disc sales, but that didn't help, say, Serenity.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 27 January, 2012, 01:04:08 PM
I'd imagine there are other factors too - for instance I expect Guillermo Del Toro has a fair bit of clout in Hollywood, having a smash like Blade II under his belt probably helped persuade the studio to bankroll Hellboy II, despite the first one not really doing that well at the cinema.

I suspect that Dredd is likely to do better internationally than in the US (taking into account the takings of the 1995 movie and the general popularity/awareness of the character). I'm guessing that US box office won't be as critical as with most releases due to it not being a US production. I also think it's likely to fare better on home formats/VOD than it does at the cinema.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 27 January, 2012, 01:16:55 PM
Quite so, this isn't a US film, not US money.  So US ratings, while very important, aren't the only thing to watch.  If that was the case a heck of a lot of British, French, Bosnian (you get the idea) films wouldn't be made.

'International' box office figures are the key here, which as it is a UK film includes USA.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 January, 2012, 02:26:11 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 27 January, 2012, 12:34:25 PM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 27 January, 2012, 03:31:20 AM
or the depressingly dismal take of the wonderful Attack the Block (under $6m, taking about half its budget).


I think Attack the Block's parochial sensibilities didn't appeal to the Yanks -and distributor disinterest- despite it's Carpenteresque aspirations.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 27 January, 2012, 03:25:20 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 January, 2012, 02:26:11 PMI think Attack the Block's parochial sensibilities didn't appeal to the Yanks -and distributor disinterest- despite it's Carpenteresque aspirations.
The UK take was also disappointing. I don't think people gave the film a chance, and were terribly confused by its very much 'grey' thinking. People too often like to know who's good and who's bad.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 27 January, 2012, 03:38:17 PM
Yes...  a US remake would be a very different film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 27 January, 2012, 05:05:06 PM
Who knows, if it doesn't make a lot of money at the box office it may still get a sequel eventually. I find it weird that sequels always seem to be confirmed straight away now. What's wrong with a couple of years gap?

Alien was released in 1979 then Aliens wasn't released until 1986. I ain't saying Dredd will be a hit like alien was, but just using it as an example of length between sequels. Give it some time and see if enough people want a Dredd sequel and then even if the first one didn't make enough money, the sequel potentially could as there would now be a bigger awareness.

I just hope it's good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 January, 2012, 05:09:36 PM

Yeah but problems with last 15 years, lots of original films was about to release, then before it does, sequels will be confirmed, but without SCRIPTS!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 27 January, 2012, 05:35:58 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 26 January, 2012, 11:50:01 AM
Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Green Arrow. In other words the central characters of Justice League since Silver Age...  They outsell Marvel.

Those individual characters may have the top of the market ... but overall Marvel have whipped DC for the last 30 years.  That was the whole reason for the "New 52" re-launch.

What is most interesting is that DC felt they had to re-boot many of these "top" characters too.  Maybe they realised that their "top-ness" is now under threat.

These historical graphs tell a very clear story:

(http://www.comichron.com/vitalstatistics/graphs/AM1Units.jpg)

(http://enterthestory.com/images/sales.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 27 January, 2012, 06:03:39 PM
My worst fear is that Dredd will do OKish, and then we end up with one or two crappy, lazy, low-rent, straight to DVD sequels that involve few of the original cast and crew.

In that case I think I'd prefer no sequels at all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 27 January, 2012, 07:42:05 PM
Quote from: radiator on 27 January, 2012, 06:03:39 PM
My worst fear is that Dredd will do OKish, and then we end up with one or two crappy, lazy, low-rent, straight to DVD sequels that involve few of the original cast and crew.

In that case I think I'd prefer no sequels at all.



(http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp42/dr_cyclopz/defeat.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 January, 2012, 08:57:21 PM
Quote from: radiator on 27 January, 2012, 06:03:39 PM
My worst fear is that Dredd will do OKish, and then we end up with one or two crappy, lazy, low-rent, straight to DVD sequels that involve few of the original cast and crew.

In that case I think I'd prefer no sequels at all.


Wouldn't Rebellion -and maybe Wagner at least informally- have to agree to that? Not sure they wish to go down that path.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 27 January, 2012, 10:33:31 PM
It will kick f**k ass bitch!!!! BELIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 January, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
Can it not just be good?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 27 January, 2012, 11:05:42 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 27 January, 2012, 05:35:58 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 26 January, 2012, 11:50:01 AM
Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Green Arrow. In other words the central characters of Justice League since Silver Age...  They outsell Marvel.

Those individual characters may have the top of the market ... but overall Marvel have whipped DC for the last 30 years.  That was the whole reason for the "New 52" re-launch.

What is most interesting is that DC felt they had to re-boot many of these "top" characters too.  Maybe they realised that their "top-ness" is now under threat.

These historical graphs tell a very clear story:

((images removed to not clog up the thread... - Bat King))

So?

I think my point was perfectly clear the idea that Judge Dredd is more well known in USA than Green Lantern was beyond laughable. Green Lantern outsells Marvel characters.

I wasn't giving a big up to DC or putting down Marvel...

'Nuff said', I don't think you win a 'no prize' for this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 28 January, 2012, 04:30:54 AM
Quote from: Bat King on 27 January, 2012, 11:05:42 PM
I think my point was perfectly clear the idea that Judge Dredd is more well known in USA than Green Lantern was beyond laughable. Green Lantern outsells Marvel characters.

I wasn't giving a big up to DC or putting down Marvel...

'Nuff said', I don't think you win a 'no prize' for this.

Apologies ... got totally the wrong angle on your point, which -- as you say -- is pretty clear on re-reading.

"I'll get m' coat..."  (Shuffles off in embarrassment)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 28 January, 2012, 05:26:16 AM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 27 January, 2012, 07:42:05 PM
Quote from: radiator on 27 January, 2012, 06:03:39 PM
My worst fear is that Dredd will do OKish, and then we end up with one or two crappy, lazy, low-rent, straight to DVD sequels that involve few of the original cast and crew.
In that case I think I'd prefer no sequels at all.
(http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp42/dr_cyclopz/defeat.jpg)

I second that motion your honour, we'll have none of that negativity on this site (unless your name is Scott Nestle, in which case, BUGGER OFF SCOTT!), Dredd is going to be awesome, I predict right here (and y'all can hold me to it) that it will do Watchmen numbers in worldwide box-office takings - around the $180m (give or take a few million either way) mark - and we more-likely-than-not will see a sequel around 2015... and I stand by every word (which I'll probably end up regretting, but my faith in DNA Films is absolute and steadfast)!!!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 28 January, 2012, 09:31:00 AM
Agreed....I'm more optimistic than I was at first and am even starting to prefer the uniform redesign.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 January, 2012, 12:02:44 PM

Just watch The Chronicles of Riddick at Sky Movies at moment, (Love that film!)
Karl Urban is good in it :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 28 January, 2012, 12:44:50 PM
True dat!! He'll be a top Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 28 January, 2012, 03:24:00 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 28 January, 2012, 04:30:54 AM
Quote from: Bat King on 27 January, 2012, 11:05:42 PM
I think my point was perfectly clear the idea that Judge Dredd is more well known in USA than Green Lantern was beyond laughable. Green Lantern outsells Marvel characters.

I wasn't giving a big up to DC or putting down Marvel...

'Nuff said', I don't think you win a 'no prize' for this.

Apologies ... got totally the wrong angle on your point, which -- as you say -- is pretty clear on re-reading.

"I'll get m' coat..."  (Shuffles off in embarrassment)

Was I a bit blunt?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 31 January, 2012, 01:16:03 PM
<a href="http://www.movieinsider.com/photos/37358/"><img src="http://e.movie.as/p/600/37358.jpg" alt="Dredd photo" style="border:0" /></a>

There's a lot of Judges in this Movie or the two lead characters sweated so much they had to change Helmets [oh er missus] regularly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 January, 2012, 01:20:49 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 31 January, 2012, 01:16:03 PM
(http://e.movie.as/p/600/37358.jpg)

There's a lot of Judges in this Movie or the two lead characters sweated so much they had to change Helmets [oh er missus] regularly.

Fixed it for you.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 31 January, 2012, 01:30:06 PM
Cool! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 31 January, 2012, 03:54:16 PM
New Dredd pic in this months Total Film.....
Looks great but I wish they would pic a new angle to take the photo from.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=53783
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 January, 2012, 03:59:06 PM
http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/33503/DREDD%202012_Karl%20Urban.jpg (http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/33503/DREDD%202012_Karl%20Urban.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 31 January, 2012, 04:04:03 PM
Is that actually a new shot? Seems identical to one of the Empire ones.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 January, 2012, 04:08:01 PM
(http://i53.tinypic.com/k159pk.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 January, 2012, 04:08:17 PM
It's been out before and here they both are  :o

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/2000ad%20Sites/UrbanDredd.jpg)(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/2000ad%20Sites/JudgeJuryExecutioner.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 31 January, 2012, 04:10:37 PM
Ah, spot colour - the true sign of amateur photoshoppery.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 31 January, 2012, 04:34:21 PM
With only 7 months to go till D-day . . .The Dredd movie promo' machine rolls on!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 31 January, 2012, 04:40:26 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 31 January, 2012, 04:34:21 PM
With only 7 months to go till D-day . . .The Dredd movie promo' machine rolls on!
It's all getting a bit frantic for sure.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklambo on 31 January, 2012, 07:19:09 PM
The helmet only makes sense to me to be that size with the respirator dropping down....( pointed this out on the day the first pic came out but think it might be worth repeating..!) :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 31 January, 2012, 07:26:55 PM
That looks like Judge Dredd alright. Disagree with the essential reading for Dredd I can just about make out there. I'd would have said "The Day the Law Died." Which would be a good sequel, probably 3rd in the series of Dredd films after he's character has emerged on the big screen a bit more. Getting ahead of myself here, but I reckon it'l be a great film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 31 January, 2012, 08:27:06 PM
I'm hoping it is good enough for both sequels & other 2000AD movies.

Rogue Trooper would be a great movie, Flesh has legs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jared Katooie on 31 January, 2012, 08:30:01 PM
Urban could live in that helmet.

And raise a family there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 31 January, 2012, 11:53:27 PM
Quote from: Jared Katooie on 31 January, 2012, 08:30:01 PM
Urban could live in that helmet.

And raise a family there.


At least he's keeping the Drokking thing on!

Isn't that enough?  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 February, 2012, 01:06:58 AM
Why are there still complaints about the size of the helmet? It's a motorcycle helmet, it needs to be big.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 01 February, 2012, 01:46:40 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 01 February, 2012, 01:06:58 AM
Why are there still complaints about the size of the helmet? It's a motorcycle helmet, it needs to be big.

Helmet envy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 01 February, 2012, 02:09:08 AM
After the stink i raised on the political thread, I was going to keep my head down for a while, but imagine my excitement when I logged on to see a potential new Dredd photo... imagine my disappointment when it turned out to be THE SAME DARN PHOTO SEEN IN 'EMPIRE' LAST JULY!!!  I'm not criticising DNA Films or IM Global or Lionsgate, how could I, they're putting up 45 million big 'uns to actually make a new JD movie - and after the last one, that deserves a serious round of applause - and they know what they're doing in relation to the whole publicity side of things, so you'll excuse me if say;

NO MORE PHOTOS... TRAILER, NOW!!!

That's it, I'm done now...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 01 February, 2012, 07:03:06 AM
Sorry to disappoint you Beaky you political thread stinker. Here's that same darned photo again!

(http://i53.tinypic.com/k159pk.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 01 February, 2012, 08:31:59 AM
I honestly don't understand why people keep saying the helmet's too big. It looks absolutely fine to me. On the first photo we saw, yes, it looked weirdly bulky but that was revealed to be an unfortunate accident with part of the backround. Every shot since has looked like pure Dredd to me.

Dredd isn't a super-hero and he doesn't wear a 'costume'. This is a uniform and needs to be practical. I like the film uniform more than the comic one these days.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 01 February, 2012, 08:54:09 AM
I have no probs with the uniform, the only thing that annoys the fanboy in me is that he's not shaved 8-?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 01 February, 2012, 08:59:26 AM
He's been in action Logan. Judges only get 10 minutes in the sleep machine. Dredd looked pretty scruffy in the last few episodes of the cursed earth, and compared to his appearance at the end of of the Sov. Atomic War he looks quite fresh. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 01 February, 2012, 09:13:26 AM
It's not just one or two of us on this forum who have pointed out that the helmet looks a bit big - I've seen many blog posts and online commenters openly laughing at it:

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2011/07/judge-dredd-visibly-upset-store-had-only.php (http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2011/07/judge-dredd-visibly-upset-store-had-only.php)

You can use the 'it's a bike helmet/it's a practical uniform' justification til you're blue in the face, but if even just a small percentage of people make the same observation, then there is a problem. If people's first reaction to your hardnut antihero is derisive laughter, something is wrong. At the end of the day, it's a movie - first and foremost it should look cool.

For now, I'm a bit concerned about it - imo it looks fine in the Total Film picture posted above - and will reserve judgement until I see it in the proper context. I'm crossing my fingers pretty hard.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 February, 2012, 09:37:42 AM
Once he fires that Lawgiver/bike cannon it won't matter. It looks a lot less ridiculous than this and no one complained:

(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp277/raultumba/Magneto/magnetomarvelperu033.jpg)



I think it's mostly people who are not particularly familiar with Dredd, or care, are nitpicking/trolling about the helmet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 01 February, 2012, 09:47:30 AM
Well, im familiar with the character, and im not trolling, and i think in that teaser poster (the 'judge, jury, executioner' one) it looks comedically massive., and just swamps him. Especially with the mini pads. We'll see how it all turns out, i guess.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 February, 2012, 09:47:46 AM
At least this 2012 Helmet looks much better, than this shite;

(http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/sylvester-stallone-as-judge-dredd.jpg?w=600&h=337)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 01 February, 2012, 10:15:15 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 01 February, 2012, 09:47:30 AM
Well, im familiar with the character, and im not trolling, and i think in that teaser poster (the 'judge, jury, executioner' one) it looks comedically massive., and just swamps him. Especially with the mini pads. We'll see how it all turns out, i guess.

SBT

Yeah, I'll admit that it doesn't look too great in that particular shot but I think that's mainly due to it being in heavy shadow. You can't even tell where his face ends and the helmet begins.

It doesn't look too big in all the Empire photos, especially the full body shots of him kicking the door in and running down the corridor.

And Goaty, NOOOOOO! The 95 helmet was and is bloody awful. The new one is much better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 01 February, 2012, 11:10:38 AM
I don't have a problem with the 95 style visor - it's a bit too overtly 'comic book' and plasticy, but that suits the tone they were going for. It's still recognisably Dredd, though the utilitarian, 'lived-in' look of the 2012 gear is infinitely better.

I think part of the problem in the new one is the padding either side of the wearer's face - it makes their head look smaller than it is - especially in pictures that are heavily in shadow. Hopefully when we see it in properly lit footage it will all click and make sense. I also think increasing the size of the shoulder pads
would help things proportionally - or it might have just made Urban look even more swamped, who knows?

Though I have my concerns, there's some serious talent behind the scenes of this film, and I can't bring myself to believe that if it really did look silly, then no one would have stepped in and done something about it. We'll see. I'll say again that everything I've seen/heard about the art direction and cinematography leads me to believe that this will be a cracking looking film, and overall I think the new uniform rocks - it's actually far closer to the comic version than would appear on first glance. Pretty much all the elements are present and correct - even down to the (muted) green gloves and boots, lawgiver, the belt buckle, utility belt, even the little rounded bits on the knuckles.

Re: Magneto - I actually really liked that - they just went all out, and I'm hoping the sequel to First Class will go even further down that road into full-on Silver Age psychedelic gaudiness and colour. I love grim and gritty as much as the next guy, but surely it's time for a reaction against that? Sebastian Shaw's proto-Magneto helmet in FC looked kind of goofy at first - mostly in the pre-release stills, but I don't even notice it when I watch the film now - I enjoy the film so much that I just accept it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 01 February, 2012, 01:38:50 PM
I think John Wagner mentioned he 'd seen part of the DR3DD Film with post production effects completed so that has to be good news.

Re shoots and post production problems aside I assume their about a third of the way through putting it all together. Perhaps after this months celebrations of 35 years of 2000AD we might get a few pointers to when the first Trailer/Poster might be appearing.

Or when it's going straight to DVD of course! ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 01 February, 2012, 01:46:25 PM
QuoteRe shoots and post production problems aside I assume their about a third of the way through putting it all together.

According to Wagner it's pretty much done - or will be by the end of the month. Edit is complete, they're currently doing the audio. Probably a bit of tweaking to do after that, but other than that it's pretty much done as far as I know.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 01 February, 2012, 03:18:50 PM
As mentioned above, the real issue of concern here is that damn beard!

That ain't Joe. No sir.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 01 February, 2012, 04:34:30 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 01 February, 2012, 03:18:50 PM
As mentioned above, the real issue of concern here is that damn beard!

That ain't Joe. No sir.

Yeah, there is a find line between a bit of stubble to look meaner and too much, and those total films pics it looked too much. But the empire subscriber cover was about right.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 February, 2012, 05:14:31 PM
Unshaved looks is very popular!  :lol:

As with new photo of James Bond out today...

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/01/article-2094808-118C0CA5000005DC-55_634x498.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 01 February, 2012, 05:18:37 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 01 February, 2012, 09:47:46 AM
At least this 2012 Helmet looks much better, than this shite;

(http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/sylvester-stallone-as-judge-dredd.jpg?w=600&h=337)
Quote from: Lee Bates on 01 February, 2012, 10:15:15 AM

And Goaty, NOOOOOO! The 95 helmet was and is bloody awful. The new one is much better.


It was pretty bad for a Dredd helmet. It was more in the style of early Ian Gibson depictions, if any. Certainly the whole film was evocative of early Dredd episodes  : the gunfight at the beginning reminded me of the "Judge Whitey" episode, there is that bit from the "Muggers Moon" story where he shoots and blows up the yuppie's car. Than there is the "Crime and Punishment" episode part of the film when Dredd is falsely accussed of gunning down innocent people, then you get the Angel Gang, Rico and anything else you care to notice. On the whole the film is a pastiche.

This is I think why the decision to remove the helmet came about ,(apart from Sly's ego). Was because during the '90's pastiche films were fashionable - David Lynch being one example. Dredd gets to take his helmet off because it reveals the way in which the story is constructed. Along with all the Dredd stories mentioned above, the taking off of the helmet focuses the film attention more on how a story/film is told, rather than the actual telling of the story. It shows how narratives are produced, rather than presenting a narrative as one that is told and complete in itself. As I said, this technique was popular in the '90's with a lot of film makers. To Dredd fans like ourselves, Dredd without his helmet on his head is a bit like Jimi Hendrix without the guitar.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 01 February, 2012, 05:53:54 PM
I'm still staggered how many nutters on film news talkbacks are complaining about the nose cross-piece.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 01 February, 2012, 09:25:58 PM
Good point! It's only a minor detail. :lol:

Getting back to the 1995 Dredd, the helmet was important because the removal of it subverted the character of Dredd. It changed the parameters of the film. Instead of the celebration of the 2000ad Judge Dredd character through the medium of film; we ended up with a celebration of film through the medium of the 2000ad Judge Dredd character.

That's why details like the helmet are important; change that too radically and you're not just questioning Dredd but the whole gamut of fiction and storytelling. Film remains a powerful medium.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: locustsofdeath! on 01 February, 2012, 09:32:39 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 01 February, 2012, 09:25:58 PM
That's why details like the helmet are important; change that too radically and you're not just questioning Dredd but the whole gamut of fiction and storytelling. Film remains a powerful medium.

I think quality of script/story are far more important than Dredd's helmet. If the film is quality, I mean really quality...is something as superficial as the nose cross-piece going to ruin "the whole gamut of fiction and storytelling"? If so, don't waste your time or money.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 01 February, 2012, 10:04:06 PM
IIRC, The decision to remove the helmet was due to casting Stallone as Judge Dreddish, to paraphrase Danny Cannon (from memory) - "you don't spend $15,000,000 on a star like Stallone and not show his face".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: locustsofdeath! on 01 February, 2012, 10:13:56 PM
Quote from: Angry Vince on 01 February, 2012, 10:04:06 PM
IIRC, The decision to remove the helmet was due to casting Stallone as Judge Dreddish, to paraphrase Danny Cannon (from memory) - "you don't spend $15,000,000 on a star like Stallone and not show his face".

I always felt Stallone could have played Rico AND Dredd - keeping his helmet on as Dredd and mugging for the camera as Rico. To be completely honest, Stallone certainly has the chin for Dredd...if nothing else.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 01 February, 2012, 11:04:13 PM
QuoteTo be completely honest, Stallone certainly has the chin for Dredd...if nothing else.

Sadly, his mouth is above it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 01 February, 2012, 11:24:39 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 01 February, 2012, 11:04:13 PM
QuoteTo be completely honest, Stallone certainly has the chin for Dredd...if nothing else.

Sadly, his mouth is above it.

Excellent!

I'm not sure about the size of the helmet.  Need to see them moving around and more Judges to be certain.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 February, 2012, 12:00:00 AM
Quote from: Angry Vince on 01 February, 2012, 10:04:06 PM
IIRC, The decision to remove the helmet was due to casting Stallone as Judge Dreddish, to paraphrase Danny Cannon (from memory) - "you don't spend $15,000,000 on a star like Stallone and not show his face".



Casting Stallone was the reason it got made.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 02 February, 2012, 12:31:32 AM
Quote from: dracula1 on 31 January, 2012, 04:34:21 PM
With only 7 months to go till D-day . . .The Dredd movie promo' machine rolls on!
Hmm. I bet there will be absolutely no other films released in the second half of the year which I've not heard of yet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 02 February, 2012, 04:28:32 AM
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 01 February, 2012, 10:13:56 PM
I always felt Stallone could have played Rico AND Dredd - keeping his helmet on as Dredd and mugging for the camera as Rico. To be completely honest, Stallone certainly has the chin for Dredd...if nothing else.

Now THERE'S an idea that could've solved the problem(s) of Dredd not removing his helmet, the fact he and Rico are supposed to be clones of each other, not to mention having ol' Sly's obscene $15m salary justified by showing his mug throughout the film's duration... where were you in 1994, Locusts dude, when we needed you!?  You could've even had Rico's face scarred like in the source comic-book story, The Return of Rico , and that way you could've ha-... alright, that's it, I can't talk about this film anymore, how in heaven's name can such a hamfistedly and cackhandedly executed film generate such debate 17 years after it flopped and is universally derided by one and all, I really need to get a life (quiet in the back there!) about THAT BLOODY FILM, I'm off for a nice lie down now, I feel a little faint :crazy:...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 02 February, 2012, 07:19:06 AM
Quote from: The Cosh on 02 February, 2012, 12:31:32 AM
Quote from: dracula1 on 31 January, 2012, 04:34:21 PM
With only 7 months to go till D-day . . .The Dredd movie promo' machine rolls on!
Hmm. I bet there will be absolutely no other films released in the second half of the year which I've not heard of yet.

The worry that i have about the promotion of the film is that the companies involved already have an infrastructure in place to market it. but still nothing substantial on the promotional front

They have a website, a dedicate magazine, a publishing arm, a games company,  they really should be utilizing them better
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 02 February, 2012, 07:48:54 AM
Quote from: NSFTM on 02 February, 2012, 07:19:06 AM
The worry that i have about the promotion of the film is that the companies involved already have an infrastructure in place to market it. but still nothing substantial on the promotional front
They have a website, a dedicate magazine, a publishing arm, a games company,  they really should be utilizing them better

I understand your concern (and possible frustration) at the lack of promotion thus far on Dredd, but you have to give IM Global and Lionsgate some room on this, it's in their own financial interests to promote the film properly, and I am certain they have a game-plan for it, be patient, just a little while longer, it's still a whole seven-and-a-half months until Dredd's release, plenty of time left to create maximum awareness and interest in the movie, I guarantee the teaser trailer will be released before March is out, have faith brother...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 02 February, 2012, 07:52:12 AM
... well, just under eight months until release, to be more accurate, but you get my drift...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 02 February, 2012, 08:15:13 AM
Quote from: NSFTM on 02 February, 2012, 07:19:06 AM
They have a website, a dedicate magazine, a publishing arm, a games company,  they really should be utilizing them better

Thing is, with the Stallone Dredd we were bombarded with ghastly photo-covers and breathless features shoving that golden codpiece down our throats for what seemed like years in advance, and I hated it even before I saw the bloody thing.  Ditto the Dredd vs Death promotion, with its ugly sprite or model or whatever it is they call those things these days (although I subsequently enjoyed the game a lot).  TBH, I'm pleasantly surprised that I haven't yet been beaten into apathy by cross-media advertising on this one.       

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 02 February, 2012, 08:15:44 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 02 February, 2012, 08:15:13 AM
Quote from: NSFTM on 02 February, 2012, 07:19:06 AM
They have a website, a dedicate magazine, a publishing arm, a games company,  they really should be utilizing them better

Thing is, with the Stallone Dredd we were bombarded with ghastly photo-covers and breathless features shoving that golden codpiece down our throats for what seemed like years in advance, and I hated it even before I saw the bloody thing.  Ditto the Dredd vs Death promotion, with its ugly sprite or model or whatever it is they call those things these days cacking up the cover (although I subsequently enjoyed the game a lot).  TBH, I'm pleasantly surprised that I haven't yet been beaten into apathy by cross-media advertising on this one.       
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 02 February, 2012, 08:16:52 AM
Ah Jeebus wept, an edit function'd be nice.  Passing mod delete double, pretty please?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 02 February, 2012, 08:48:40 AM
Also, if Dredd had kept his helmet on he'd of looked bloody daft sat in the prison Shuttle.

I 'spose they could have done a nice 'block his face with bits of the scenery' parody.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 February, 2012, 09:01:45 AM
Also, it isn't Rebellion's job to promote the movie. (Purely conjecture on my part) it appears that no one is allowed to do or say much to do with the film without the say so of the higher ups - Lionsgate in particular are infamously  hawk-like and litigious in regards to the promotion and rights of their properties.

They are obviously going for a concentrated marketing blitz closer to release - and they probably don't have the budget for a sustained, 18 month campaign in any case.

Again going back to District 9 - a film with similar budget and ambition as Dredd - I consider myself pretty on the ball when it comes to films, but D9 wasn't even on my radar until I started picking up on the good early reviews it was getting just before it came out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 02 February, 2012, 10:21:35 AM
I remember seeing a teaser for District 9 quite some time before it came out. They were getting word on the film out to  the public in a small way at least for a few months with viral marketing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 02 February, 2012, 11:21:05 AM
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 01 February, 2012, 09:32:39 PM
I think quality of script/story are far more important than Dredd's helmet. If the film is quality, I mean really quality...is something as superficial as the nose cross-piece going to ruin "the whole gamut of fiction and storytelling"? If so, don't waste your time or money.


Not quite. Dredd without helmet is not Dredd. When Sylvester removed Dredd's helmet we were no longer watching Dredd but also Rambo, Rocky, Demolition Man and a lot of other action movies. The film was made into a pastiche of action movies. Sly used Dredd to sell his merchandise not the other way around.

The same thing is happening with Sherlock Holmes. The audience can just about cope with it being set in the 21st century rather than the late 19th, but remove elements from the story such as Dr Watson and the audience starts questioning the storytelling.

Sherlock could probably survive as a narrative without the Dr Watson character better than the Dredd narrative could survive without the famous helmet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 02 February, 2012, 12:00:16 PM
Going by this Dredd's uniform should look good.

(http://i.imgur.com/dNTRJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 February, 2012, 12:12:07 PM
QuoteDredd without helmet is not Dredd.

I've never bought this argument. A good Dredd film is not 100% dependent on him not showing his face. I'm pleased as a fan that the makers of Dredd 2012 have decided to keep the helmet on for the duration, but I'm also questioning whether this was a good idea cinematically, as the nearest examples I can think of - V in the godawful V for Vendetta adaptaion, and a few scenes in the first Spider-man movie where a masked Spidey is talking to a masked Green Goblin - were, imo, quite strange and unnatural to watch.

Having a hugely famous movie star in the role and having him show his face for much of the duration - as was the case with the 1995 movie - is a different matter entirely, and yes, that harmed the film as a Dredd adaptation beyond repair, but I am not 100% against a movie Dredd showing his face - there are more important things than this - to me it's just a detail. It's far more important that they get the character and tone right.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 02 February, 2012, 03:35:43 PM
Yes radiator, the medium of film is completely different to the comic.  A huge star like Urban is going to raise Dredd's profile and if this means deviating from the comic version Dredd in order to reach a wider audience, it's all for the good and I'm willing to swallow it. It's just that Stallone's Dredd tried this and went too far.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 02 February, 2012, 03:44:01 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 02 February, 2012, 03:35:43 PM
Yes radiator, the medium of film is completely different to the comic.  A huge star like Urban is going to raise Dredd's profile and if this means deviating from the comic version Dredd in order to reach a wider audience, it's all for the good and I'm willing to swallow it. It's just that Stallone's Dredd tried this and went too far.

Karl Urban isn't a 'huge star'. I don't think I've ever met anyone who knows who he is by name. Even prompting people with "You know, he was McCoy in the new Star Trek film..." is met with blank stares.

If he took his helmet off momentarily and it wasn't a big deal and he kept it on for most of the film, I'd be happy. The fact that he won't be taking it off is brilliant.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 February, 2012, 04:06:08 PM
Found this bit of hearsay on the Dredd IMDB forum:


The following is from a conversation i have been having with a colleague over at Bluray.com regarding the new Dredd film. Mr Walker knows one of the top bods at DNA and was informing me of the film's developement:

"I don't know if I posted this already but I talked to someone last year who'd seen a rough cut and they said DREDD was "extremely violent" and looked fairly concerned. Next thing I heard was that Travis was off the picture."

I suggested that DNA had been watching the rushes since Day One and that the film would keep it's hardcore level of violence, the actual 'level' spoken of by Mike Van Kesteren, who worked on the film. His response:

"My concern - and this is simply going from the worried expression of this person, who works at a high level for the production company - is that they've pulled back majorly on the violence, and that this might be why Travis was locked out. They're looking at an expensive product and I'd be surprised if they'll settle for more than a 15 here in the UK. £30 million is a huge budget for a British film. And you can believe me or not but this was one of the main bods at DNA and I'm telling you: they were worried!

People on this forum (Bluray.com) tend to forget: these films can't make a profit on the geek crowd alone. They need to break out to the wider public. I'm afraid when it comes to comic-book movies that means kid-friendly."

So have DNA 'overcooked it' and had to go back and do reshoots to tone down the violence? a '15' rated film in the UK is preferable to an 18. I mean, i really don't think we are going to see a PG13 Dredd film, seriously, but pulling it back to a 15 may be thier aim.



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/flat/194349075?p=1
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 February, 2012, 04:10:21 PM
Quote from: radiator on 02 February, 2012, 09:01:45 AM
Also, it isn't Rebellion's job to promote the movie.


No, IM GLOBAL are but I feel they're waiting for all the heavy Summer promotion to die down before they reall give Dredd the push.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: locustsofdeath! on 02 February, 2012, 04:21:12 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 02 February, 2012, 03:35:43 PM
Yes radiator, the medium of film is completely different to the comic.  A huge star like Urban is going to raise Dredd's profile and if this means deviating from the comic version Dredd in order to reach a wider audience, it's all for the good and I'm willing to swallow it. It's just that Stallone's Dredd tried this and went too far.

So in the span of two posts you went from vehemently opposing my view to accepting it after Radiator agrees?  ::)

I'm happy Dredd is keeping the helmet on. But if it were a brilliant film from top to bottom, well-written and well-acted...but Dredd takes his helmet off, I can ignore that and I'm happy. Seems you're on that wagon, too, now that someone else is on board.  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 02 February, 2012, 04:23:25 PM
What rating was District 9? . . .  my brain cells are on the wain since I hit my forties.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 02 February, 2012, 04:33:31 PM
I am still of the opinion that if Dredd takes his helmet off, it is no longer Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 02 February, 2012, 04:52:45 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 February, 2012, 04:06:08 PM
Found this bit of hearsay on the Dredd IMDB forum:



So have DNA 'overcooked it' and had to go back and do reshoots to tone down the violence? a '15' rated film in the UK is preferable to an 18. . [/i]


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/flat/194349075?p=1



I can't believe you guys are still talking about the helmet . This is to me huge news!
Having read and loved the tone of the Peach Trees script I would have loved to see an uncut version in the cinema, looks like I may have to wait for the DVD.

I hope its not toned down too much, but I have to accept that they cant take too many chances if they really want a successful franchise.

Sheesh 'Hollywood' Today. I'm sure we didn't used to get this cop out talk back in the days of Total Recall and Robocop. This diet of Avatar Harry Potter and Twilight has skewed things TOO far in the wrong direction in my opinion, the lame direction.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 02 February, 2012, 04:58:31 PM
"So have DNA 'overcooked it' and had to go back and do reshoots to tone down the violence? a '15' rated film in the UK is preferable to an 18. I mean, i really don't think we are going to see a PG13 Dredd film, seriously, but pulling it back to a 15 may be thier aim."

Id rather hear they went for shooting in rain macs to catch the blood spatter than see everyone survives a shoot out in some silly 80's 'A-Team' show.

Its quite common for the gore to be trimmed down for the censors.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 02 February, 2012, 05:00:05 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 02 February, 2012, 04:58:31 PM
"So have DNA 'overcooked it' and had to go back and do reshoots to tone down the violence? a '15' rated film in the UK is preferable to an 18. I mean, i really don't think we are going to see a PG13 Dredd film, seriously, but pulling it back to a 15 may be thier aim."

Id rather hear they went for shooting in rain macs to catch the blood spatter than see everyone survives a shoot out in some silly 80's 'A-Team' show.

Its quite common for the gore to be trimmed down for the censors.

'LIKE IN' some silly 80's A-Team Show. Curse the lack of edit button.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 02 February, 2012, 05:03:47 PM
By the way having never seen the film and even at this early stage I think a big enough noise should be made about this to show there is a demand so we do eventually get to see an unrated version.

I like a well told story as much as the next man and Dredd is Not all about violence,  I think Dod Mantle did mention that the violence was almost a parody on violent films, but  obviously somebody upstairs thinks that the audience is too dumb to get this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 February, 2012, 05:06:31 PM
I don't think parody may be the right word. Heightened might be better to make a point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 February, 2012, 05:12:08 PM
Hmm, I'll take that rumour with a huge dose of salt.

Since day one DNA have been very frank that they were making a dark, violent film. For them to do a U Turn so late in the day - even to lock out the director solely for this reason - seems extremely unlikely to me.

Doubt very much that this - if true - would necessitate reshoots - surely they could have just cut/edited the offending material? And exactly how far do you have to go these days to get an 18? My understanding was that only in severe cases - aggressive sexual violence say - would you get a guaranteed 18/NC-17 certificate. I was expecting something on the level of District 9 or Kick-Ass (both a 15 rating in the UK) - they're pretty full-on - people exploding and on fire, limbs chopped off etc etc.

QuoteId rather hear they went for shooting in rain macs to catch the blood spatter than see everyone survives a shoot out in some silly 80's 'A-Team' show.

I agree - I feel a little uncomfortable with bloodless film violence (like the sort we got in Inception and The Dark Knight) - it's a little irresponsible on the filmmakers part to revel in violence and not portray the true consequences - it smacks a little of having their cake and eating it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 February, 2012, 05:35:37 PM
Quote from: radiator on 02 February, 2012, 05:12:08 PM
Doubt very much that this - if true - would necessitate reshoots - surely they could have just cut/edited the offending material?



Not necessarily, depends on how the scenes were directed, the violence may have been hard to cut around. With 3D there's generally less cuts in scenes. Cutting scenes, dimisihing them may have made them unusable or left gaps in pacing depending on their nature. We can never know.

Things can change when seen iin the cold light of day.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 02 February, 2012, 05:45:58 PM
Yeah, you would have to go some... Shaun of the Dead has a character being torn apart and that still only got a 15.

I'm guessing they're dealing with something along the lines of the last Rambo in the level of violence, and I did wonder why they'd gone that far with the violence when it wasn't strictly necessary for a Dredd story.

I wonder if it's coming from IMGlobal and DNA are getting cold feet over the direction they were taking...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 February, 2012, 06:01:18 PM
It could be that the producers/financiers got spooked when Watchmen and Kick-Ass - perhaps the two highest-profile overtly violent comic book adaptations - didn't do too well at the box office.

QuoteI'm guessing they're dealing with something along the lines of the last Rambo in the level of violence, and I did wonder why they'd gone that far with the violence when it wasn't strictly necessary for a Dredd story.

Yeah - they may have been scuppered by their efforts to distance themselves form the Stallone Dredd movie by going too far in the other direction.

I don't really think of Dredd as an especially violent comic myself, but perhaps I've just been reading it so long that I've become desensitised to the base level violence and carefree attitude to bodycounts that's always been a constant pretty much since it began.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 February, 2012, 06:03:35 PM
QuoteI wonder if it's coming from IMGlobal and DNA are getting cold feet over the direction they were taking...

Dig at Pete Travis?  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 02 February, 2012, 06:22:23 PM
Slip of the tongue...

I don't really think of Dredd being gratuitously violent as a default, just seems to depend more on the artist - I wonder if more of the satire of the strip might have helped with a rating because of violence...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 02 February, 2012, 07:14:23 PM
 If this rumour turns out to be true won't it affect the release date of the Film? They've scheduled it for Autumn but frankly I'm thinking early next year now :(.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 February, 2012, 07:41:02 PM
QuoteIf this rumour turns out to be true won't it affect the release date of the Film?

No - it's already edited and almost complete. It may, however, explain the initial delay - by the time Dredd comes out it will have been nearly four years since the original announcement and commencement of preproduction.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 February, 2012, 08:40:15 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 02 February, 2012, 07:14:23 PM
If this rumour turns out to be true won't it affect the release date of the Film? They've scheduled it for Autumn but frankly I'm thinking early next year now :(.


Why? These concerns seem to be old ones.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 02 February, 2012, 08:43:01 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 02 February, 2012, 03:44:01 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 02 February, 2012, 03:35:43 PM
Yes radiator, the medium of film is completely different to the comic.  A huge star like Urban is going to raise Dredd's profile and if this means deviating from the comic version Dredd in order to reach a wider audience, it's all for the good and I'm willing to swallow it. It's just that Stallone's Dredd tried this and went too far.

Karl Urban isn't a 'huge star'. I don't think I've ever met anyone who knows who he is by name. Even prompting people with "You know, he was McCoy in the new Star Trek film..." is met with blank stares.

If he took his helmet off momentarily and it wasn't a big deal and he kept it on for most of the film, I'd be happy. The fact that he won't be taking it off is brilliant.


It depends on your criteria for judging I suppose, this is a Hollywood film we're talking about with millions to spend on promotion, and not some unknown film company with jack shit to promote their film.  One thing is for sure, it won't be anything like the last, so that is a reason for us to be cheerful.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 02 February, 2012, 08:47:56 PM
Crickey.  Forum seems to be going into overdrive with panic and counter panic... (OK I'm exagerating some of you are not panicking so much)

I'm quite glad we haven't been flooded in hype like we were with the Stallone debacle.

That said, I'd like a few more teasers, but no spoilers.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 February, 2012, 08:51:52 PM


CHILL OUT everyone, I am for one, that would really looking forward to this release of new Dredd, I like everything about that! Like that Judge uniforms, helmet, Karl Urban, looks of the film, with its photos.

Just simple ignore those rumours, and counts the days/weeks/months till the film came out!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 02 February, 2012, 08:55:09 PM
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 02 February, 2012, 04:21:12 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 02 February, 2012, 03:35:43 PM
Yes radiator, the medium of film is completely different to the comic.  A huge star like Urban is going to raise Dredd's profile and if this means deviating from the comic version Dredd in order to reach a wider audience, it's all for the good and I'm willing to swallow it. It's just that Stallone's Dredd tried this and went too far.

So in the span of two posts you went from vehemently opposing my view to accepting it after Radiator agrees?  ::)

I'm happy Dredd is keeping the helmet on. But if it were a brilliant film from top to bottom, well-written and well-acted...but Dredd takes his helmet off, I can ignore that and I'm happy. Seems you're on that wagon, too, now that someone else is on board.  :D


I'm not vehemently opposed to anyone's views, that's why I can see both sides of the argument. In translating a comic strip to film there are bound to be changes from the original story. The comic is aimed at a very specific group, the film a much, much, wider audience. Not everyone "gets" the thing about Dredd's helmet. It's inevitable that a director or actor isn't going to be too happy with the lead role having his face obscured throughout the film. For the sake of cinema I'm prepared to swallow some alterations to the Dredd theme, like any rational adult would. My point is if this goes too far as in the last Dredd film, then what is left is a pastiche superhero film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 February, 2012, 09:26:17 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 02 February, 2012, 08:43:01 PM
It depends on your criteria for judging I suppose, this is a Hollywood film we're talking about with millions to spend on promotion, and not some unknown film company with jack shit to promote their film.  One thing is for sure, it won't be anything like the last, so that is a reason for us to be cheerful.


It's not a Hollywood film, it's an indie with an average budget.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 02 February, 2012, 09:28:57 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 02 February, 2012, 08:47:56 PM
Crickey.  Forum seems to be going into overdrive with panic and counter panic... (OK I'm exagerating some of you are not panicking so much)

I'm quite glad we haven't been flooded in hype like we were with the Stallone debacle.

That said, I'd like a few more teasers, but no spoilers.
Im not panicking so much with John Wagner giving a thumbs up and Carlos Ezquerra being involved Im confodent its going to be a decent film.
Too much over analysing methinks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 02 February, 2012, 11:28:26 PM
Well it must be true.. someone on a forum on some site knows someone who talked to someone on another site about a.rumour that something may have been Changed.

Another reason why the lack of news about the film is dangerous..people fill the silence with half truths, rumour and speculation.  and before you know it what was rumour becomes the perceived truth
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 02 February, 2012, 11:29:54 PM
Quote from: NSFTM on 02 February, 2012, 11:28:26 PM
Well it must be true.. someone on a forum on some site knows someone who talked to someone on another site about a.rumour that something may have been Changed.

Another reason why the lack of news about the film is dangerous..people fill the silence with half truths, rumour and speculation.  and before you know it what was rumour becomes the perceived truth
j

Sorry came across all yoda towards the end
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 03 February, 2012, 05:05:13 AM
Ever'yone needs to cool it a little with this so-called 'revelation' about Dredd's alleged behind-the-scenes shenanigans - alleged being the operative word here - I agree with NSTFM, that whole "I know something because someone who knows someone who..." is par the course on the interweb, and I would take it not so much with a pinch of salt, but a veritable pillar of salt... nothing's proven until it's proven, period!

If, however, it turns out to be canon, then it is what it is, and nothing we can do about it, let's just hope we get an unrated 'director's cut' version on the home release... hold on a minute- behind the scenes disagreements, reshoots of footage, mandated cuts to tone down excessive violence, hopes of a 'director's cut' home release, haven't we been here before, it all sounds awfully familiar :-X...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 03 February, 2012, 06:07:58 AM
Upon further consideration on this subject, this might be (if true, that is) about the U.S. rating for Dredd rather than general concern over the ultra-violence in the actual film, the same thing happened with RoboCop in 1987, when the MPAA threatened that film with the dreaded NC-17 rating (putting it on a par with hardcore porn, and meaning they couldn't advertise) unless Paul Verhoeven cut the extreme violence back, he cut a few shots and got the R-rating they wanted, the same thing may apply to Dredd, with the DNA Films upper echelons' worried about the MPAA and how they would rate the movie, possibly leading them to re-shoot individual shots to just trim down the extreme violence a tad, the film won't be any less, just a few frames less gorier than originally shot, of course, I may be wrong about all this, but it was just an afterthought after I posted the above...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 03 February, 2012, 07:44:59 AM
Quote from: NSFTM on 02 February, 2012, 11:29:54 PM
Quote from: NSFTM on 02 February, 2012, 11:28:26 PM
Well it must be true.. someone on a forum on some site knows someone who talked to someone on another site about a.rumour that something may have been Changed.

Another reason why the lack of news about the film is dangerous..people fill the silence with half truths, rumour and speculation.  and before you know it what was rumour becomes the perceived truth
j

Sorry came across all yoda towards the end

What? You went over my helmet.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZMLPD.jpg)


...start worrying, this guy's been seen wandering around on set of the new Dredd flick.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 03 February, 2012, 10:56:34 AM
One thing that's probably worth noting if this rumour of a rumour has any hint of truth at its foundation: cuts don't mean entire scenes; often, violent movies can appease ratings bodies by cutting seconds or even fractions of seconds from certain shots.

As for a lack of news, I'll be worried if the situation's the same in, say, August (it won't be), but for the level of film Dredd is, the amount of stuff we've seen to date seems about right. This is, in the scheme of modern films, a low-budget effort. It's not Spider-Man and it's not Iron Man. Dredd won't have the marketing budget for a huge and extended campaign, and so I suspect we'll see a few more dribs and drabs before things ramp up in the few months before the release date.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 February, 2012, 11:04:19 AM
In a way, there's something a little reassuring about the rumours, as they seem to suggest the reason for the behind the scenes troubles and reshoots were down to studio pressure regarding the violence/tone in the film, rather than concerns about overall quality or lack thereof.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 February, 2012, 11:25:10 AM
If this is the case, I think it's more like the Robocop situation where the only 2 scenes which really got cut back were Murphy's death, which was pretty sustained in the unrated one - and Kinney's death by ED-209, which became almost comical in the extended cut.

Compare that to Eraser which got very heavily edited, almost to the level of an airline version.

If it's the former, I don't think it will hurt the film that much...

A lot of 'ifs' though
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 February, 2012, 11:39:56 AM
Everything I've heard about the film so far is that it's extremely intense and high octane from the word go.

If that's the case, and the problem is with the overall intensity, then yeah, there might be a problem.

If it were just the one or two problematic scenes, I doubt that would be a problem at all.

Didn't MichaelVK say something about DREDD having some firsts in terms of movie gore? Sounds like it could be quite spectacular - really, really hoping we get a directors cut Blu Ray if this all palaver turns out to have some basis in truth.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 03 February, 2012, 02:04:51 PM
With regards to ratings, advertising budgets etc etc, you can have a look at lots of stats etc here:

http://www.bfi.org.uk/filmtvinfo/stats/BFI-Statistical-Yearbook-2011.pdf

Page 29 onwards being the most relevant.

Pretty interesting to reflect on in relation to the talk on here about Dredd's budget, ratings, advertising spend, distribution etc etc
( sorry but my brain is unwilling to put the comments together with stats to make a summary. Lunch breaks are too short for such concentration !)



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fuzzed on 03 February, 2012, 02:13:04 PM
I don't want gore. I'd like a Dredd that can handle combat with the minimum of fuss and max effect, and if that means blood spurting, fine, but I'm actually after great technique. If they want guts floating towards the screen cut out, they'll get no complaints from me.

It's Feb and I'm actually at the stage now where I'm all zen about it all. I really don't think there is anything to worry about re Dredd. Not anymore anyway. Whatever the holdup was, it all seems to be sorted. Some posts back, there was an estimate for a trailer around March (Joe Soap's estimate, I think) and I'm happily, and calmly, waiting for that to happen.

Besides, been rewatching a lot of the Garland works, and he can tell a good story, and I love me a good story. I can take a helluva lot of probs elsewhere if the story sucks me in.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 03 February, 2012, 02:43:00 PM
It can be pretty difficult getting an 18 rating these days. Most of the 18 rated films of the 80s have since been reclassified to lower ratings on DVD.

I don't really care about the rating. People place far too much emphasis on it, particularly the US version which, if you've ever seen the doc This Film is Not Yet Rated, is pretty random. The UK board is much fairer and accurate.

I expect Dredd to have a similar 'feel' and tone to stuff like 28 Days Later mixed with District 9. If that's a high rating, so be it. If it's lower, that's fine too. As long as it's good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 03 February, 2012, 03:03:24 PM
Quote from: Fuzzed on 03 February, 2012, 02:13:04 PM
I don't want gore.

:lol:   

....Sorry, Point taken though.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fuzzed on 03 February, 2012, 04:16:15 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 03 February, 2012, 03:03:24 PM
Quote from: Fuzzed on 03 February, 2012, 02:13:04 PM
I don't want gore.

:lol:   

....Sorry, Point taken though.



Laugh it up, fuzzball.

No, seriously though, I couldn't care less whether I see blood and guts splatter on the screen. 'Gore' is not the same as 'violent' and film-makers can scare and sicken you with the brutality of it all, without gore, and still be realistic.

That said, if Dredd is gory, I'll still be happy.

Basically, I have no point except yay Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 03 February, 2012, 04:52:31 PM
I want Dredd snapping limbs and bouncing perps heads off walls with his brutal hand to hand scrapping skills and not just endless shooting.

 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 03 February, 2012, 05:47:08 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 03 February, 2012, 04:52:31 PM
I want Dredd snapping limbs and bouncing perps heads off walls with his brutal hand to hand scrapping skills and not just endless shooting.


Kinda like the martial art style Batman uses in the newer films; designed to take the enemy out quickly and effectively, with little risk of them getting back up to give him any more shit. That combined with a bit of Dredd over the top brutality would be great, thanks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 03 February, 2012, 08:58:21 PM
With a side order of batton clubbing
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 03 February, 2012, 09:30:25 PM
The difference with Dredd to Batman is that he doesn't care if lethal force is used.





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 February, 2012, 09:33:07 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 03 February, 2012, 09:30:25 PM
The difference with Dredd to Batman is that he doesn't care if lethal force is used.


Too right, even he killed an offender for theft the TV set!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 03 February, 2012, 11:03:10 PM
Just trying to think of the goriest Dredd story... and I think it may be the Otto Sump Ugly Clinic story. In that a gangster gets cut to ribbons in a hospital by a damaged RoboSurgeon, blood and guts flying all over the place.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 04 February, 2012, 04:15:06 AM
The gory violence in Dredd isn't the problem, more than likely, it's the reaction the MPAA will have to it that's causing the DNA guys anxiety, solution is submit the maximum-blood-n'-guts version to them, if they threaten to slap it with an NC-17, give 'em the version with the reshot scenes, meanwhile the rest of us can enjoy the uncut version of Dredd with a nice '18' rating and the Yanks (and Canucks, sorry Canada :D) can enjoy it later on the unrated DVD/Bluray... there, problem solved, thank you DNA Films you're welcome, that'll be £200 please (or ten boxes of Carlsberg)...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 04 February, 2012, 06:08:11 AM
There is no evidence to.suggest anyone has an issue with the violence in the unfinished unseen unreleased movie
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 04 February, 2012, 01:15:30 PM
Apart from jittery folk on Forums...

It'll be interesting how things get the longer no official preview or trailer...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 04 February, 2012, 01:42:45 PM
The PR on this so far has been poor.  The Empire stuff was more like it but its timing had me puzzled. As already stated the longer it is left with no official endorsed trailer and images released the more this movie will be unoffically promoted by negative rumour and conjecture. An official DREDD movie web site would do alot to quell this keeping everybody happy  till the big stuff is released nearer September.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 04 February, 2012, 01:54:57 PM
This is of course being discussed today at SFX Weekend - Twitter Droid keeping us up to date!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 04 February, 2012, 01:58:04 PM
Unfortunately I believe that the Empire feature was scheduled when DREDD was still due for a Q1 2012 release, so the timing is bad now that it's been postponed til September, meaning it'll be well over a year between the cover feature and the film being released - fine for a mega budget blockbuster, but not for a lower profile movie like DREDD.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 04 February, 2012, 04:17:54 PM
Agreed Mr.  Radiator ... it's  clearer now that you've explained why the Empire feature was ill timed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 05 February, 2012, 12:45:47 AM
Same thing happened with Hellboy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MattJW on 05 February, 2012, 01:41:56 AM
I would have thought that it's very advantageous to get a major movie magazine article published, some ten months before cinematic release. Creates some early buzz, surely.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 05 February, 2012, 02:01:00 AM
Quote from: dracula1 on 04 February, 2012, 04:17:54 PM
Agreed Mr.  Radiator ... it's  clearer now that you've explained why the Empire feature was ill timed.

It may have been ill-timed, but in defense of IM Global and co., they didn't know it was going to be pushed back to September (does anyone know exactly WHY specifically it was postponed?) when they agreed to have Empire  visit the set and do the write-up, these things are worked out in advance, but the continued silence on the whole publicity for Dredd is becoming an emerging problem for it's reputation, however, and one they need to rectify pronto, or by the time the film is released, it's gonna be tarred with the whole 'troubled production' brush, and they'll find it very difficult to shake that off... no matter how good the eventual film turns out!

Quote from: IndigoPrime on 05 February, 2012, 12:45:47 AM
Same thing happened with Hellboy.

What happened with Hellboy then, never heard of any problems there...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 05 February, 2012, 01:00:50 PM
Quote from: MattJW on 05 February, 2012, 01:41:56 AM
I would have thought that it's very advantageous to get a major movie magazine article published, some ten months before cinematic release. Creates some early buzz, surely.

I guess it depends on whether you've got much to follow it up with - it didn't help that the next story that emerges is about the director being locked out of the edit (whether true or false) and you end up with a lack of information/pics/trailers from the makers and that void seems to be filled with more negative stories or you lose momentum on the promotion...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 05 February, 2012, 01:13:27 PM
These are all valid points that every one is airing so far.  Surely it would be better for everyone to be distracted by and discussing the merits of an official teaser trailer? This can't be far off especially with some major conventions looming.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 05 February, 2012, 01:29:42 PM
I suppose it's all down to whether they want to hold off until SDCC (which seems to be cutting it fine for a September release) or not, or if they think it being a British character, Kapow would be a better bet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 05 February, 2012, 01:50:55 PM
what American events could it possibly get exposure at?  Would something like the Super bowl be asking to much  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 February, 2012, 02:06:40 PM
Well it won't be on Sugar Puffs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 February, 2012, 02:10:08 PM
Best use of a Lawmaster at 0:49 and wasn't in the film:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mTt1kPcwTY
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 05 February, 2012, 02:13:11 PM
I doubt it, Dredd seems too niche, but I don't know how many spots they have for the non-blockbuster films.

There is one for The Dictator, but that's got a wider appeal than Dredd...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 05 February, 2012, 02:15:02 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 05 February, 2012, 02:10:08 PM
Best use of a Lawmaster at 0:49 and wasn't in the film:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mTt1kPcwTY

Hah! I'd not seen that one before...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 February, 2012, 02:20:04 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 05 February, 2012, 02:13:11 PM
I doubt it, Dredd seems too niche, but I don't know how many spots they have for the non-blockbuster films.


I don't think niche is the problem, if they had spare spondoolicks to throw on a spot during the Superbowl ads, they'd jump at that kind of mass exposure.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 February, 2012, 02:23:48 PM
A 30 second spot would cost about $3 million.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 February, 2012, 02:37:04 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 05 February, 2012, 02:23:48 PM
A 30 second spot would cost about $3 million.

Yes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 February, 2012, 02:42:12 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 05 February, 2012, 02:37:04 PM
Yes.


Thanks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 05 February, 2012, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 05 February, 2012, 02:01:00 AMWhat happened with Hellboy then, never heard of any problems there...?
Expected release date and a massive article in one of the UK monthlies, and then the UK release date was put pack six months. So not quite the same thing (since the US release of Hellboy remained intact) but in this country it has the same overall result (in the sense of an 'early' major feature that the magazine would not and could not later repeat).

The thing is, I don't know how much of this matters as far as Dredd is concerned. As long as we see a robust and relevant marketing campaign in the few months prior to the release, nothing else really matters on that score.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 05 February, 2012, 02:46:52 PM
Just spike the popcorn with slomo and make it last a frame...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 05 February, 2012, 03:02:09 PM
My concern is that a campaign promoting Dredd to late on will get washed away in the wake of the big summer blockbusters.  Better to start early. As for the Super Bowl slot lets have a whip round on the forum to get some cash.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 February, 2012, 03:17:49 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 05 February, 2012, 03:02:09 PM
My concern is that a campaign promoting Dredd to late on will get washed away in the wake of the big summer blockbusters.  Better to start early.


...but the converse can be true also, a campaign started before those films come out will be trounced even more by the intense marketing of said bigger films so a more focused campaign afterwards -or attached to those films- is really more appropriate.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 05 February, 2012, 03:33:30 PM
That's also true Monsieur Soap, looks like it's a rock and a hard place scenario for the studio.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 05 February, 2012, 03:48:05 PM
Maybe, just maybe, the fact the film makers do this for a living - they might know what they are doing.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 05 February, 2012, 03:53:43 PM
This argument does crop up occasionally...

It doesn't really mean much one way or the other.

There are plenty of people who do something for a living who are not particularly good at it, or fuck up spectactularly.

This isn't aimed at the film-makers, just that particular rationale...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 05 February, 2012, 04:51:56 PM
That is why I put a few safeguarding 'maybes' I have known lots of people that are useless at what I do...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 05 February, 2012, 04:57:41 PM
In IM Global we trust.  What do we know anyway we're only the paying public.  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 05 February, 2012, 05:07:35 PM
There's the spirit... almost... ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 05 February, 2012, 05:40:00 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 05 February, 2012, 03:48:05 PM
Maybe, just maybe, the fact the film makers do this for a living - they might know what they are doing.  Just a thought.
Quite. Dredd is being made by people who have a lot of experience in working with relatively unknown properties and yet—more often than not—ending up with films that perform quite well at the box office. It's worth noting that whatever they do, Dredd will be somewhat drowned out by the marketing hundreds of millions from massive productions. That's why the timing will be key, and I'd sooner see a blitz or steady campaign nearer the time than money wasted now on marketing that people will forget.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 February, 2012, 05:45:16 PM
Funny why people have a hard time accepting this idea. Their default mode then being: 'the film is shite'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 05 February, 2012, 06:23:45 PM
That seems to be the problem. Folks want to make their judgements about the film before it's been watched by anybody. "If I could see a clip then I can see how rubbish it is" ...seems to be the mind set towards the film at the moment.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 05 February, 2012, 08:55:44 PM
Like 99.999999999% of the twats who're self proclaimed experts on the IMDB boards? The "This movie sux just cuz, lolz" brigade.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 February, 2012, 08:59:28 PM
I've seen it and its drokkin' brilliant  :D

Shit, my post from September seems to have travelled through a timey wimey thing and been posted in February  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 05 February, 2012, 09:13:07 PM
Just remember there are going to be quite a few summer block busters carrying the Dredd trailer. This can only be a good thing.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: clavell on 05 February, 2012, 09:51:28 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 05 February, 2012, 09:13:07 PM
Just remember there are going to be quite a few summer block busters carrying the Dredd trailer. This can only be a good thing.




V

Good point. And we're talking about the general movie going public here. They quickly forget. If they remember anything at all.

- C
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 06 February, 2012, 07:25:22 AM
Do you think the Dredd Trailer will be attached to Prometheus? Because THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 06 February, 2012, 08:59:05 AM
I would say, personally, that all SCI-FI/Comic book adaptions would carry it over the summer.





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 06 February, 2012, 01:25:15 PM
It would have to be advertised after Nine o'clock on British TV. If  they went for a TV campaign that is.

How expensive would that be? Superbowl Ads cost squillions but British TV Advertising? Bit cheaper surely?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 01:26:34 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 06 February, 2012, 01:25:15 PM
It would have to be advertised after Nine o'clock on British TV. If  they went for a TV campaign that is.

How expensive would that be? Superbowl Ads cost squillions but British TV Advertising? Bit cheaper surely?

Advert during the C4 The Coppers? ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 February, 2012, 03:52:09 PM
I looked through the last few pages and didn't see anything on them so I will post them. Some new pics on Dredd, they are watermarked by the site that posted them to me, but dunno weather there are originals none watermarked or not.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/160o7sg.jpg)

(http://i39.tinypic.com/f25uko.jpg)

(http://i40.tinypic.com/wlc6j6.jpg)

There are two more on the site, but one in particular may be a bit spoilerish.

http://karlurbankiwi.creatuforo.com/dredd2012filming-promotion-still-temas16703.html#16703


I am not sure what to make of these, not too fond of the picture of Dredd where he looks as though he is crying.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 03:58:45 PM

Fuck! THAT BRILLIANT! It not been on before, MR Eliminator!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 04:07:29 PM
Honest, very excited! As Karl Urban looks perfectly as Dredd! Great chin! Great uniform and helmet! None lack about it!

Anderson looks so perfect as well!

Like that lawgiver!

That was so spoiler scene, but very violent of course for Dredd!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 February, 2012, 04:14:07 PM
I really like the picture of Anderson and Dredd together, and Dredd shooting something. The middle one was probably just a bad timing shot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 February, 2012, 04:17:56 PM
Don't think it's a shot in the film anyways, as you can see the reflection of a city in his visor and it doesn't look like Mega City.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 06 February, 2012, 04:18:23 PM
Those pics are amazing.

Or at least that's what I would be saying if the helmet in that first picture didn't look comically huge.  :o

Weirdly, it looks fine in the ones below...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mike Carroll on 06 February, 2012, 04:33:27 PM
Two more from the
same site (http://karlurbankiwi.creatuforo.com/dredd2012filming-promotion-still-temas16703.html#16703):

(http://www.michaelowencarroll.com/pics/d4-1.jpg)
(http://www.michaelowencarroll.com/pics/d5-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 06 February, 2012, 04:35:16 PM
Oh fuck me, I can't wait for this. Middle pic's my favorite, to be honest. Looks perfect. BRING IT ON!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 06 February, 2012, 04:37:48 PM
WOW.  Look, it's Judge Dredd! 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buddy on 06 February, 2012, 04:38:25 PM
Is this the first decent image of the eagle?

I think the costume designers did a top job here... that eagle looks fantastic.

All lookin good so far.. roll on September.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 06 February, 2012, 04:40:40 PM
This Karl Urban fan site may be the source.
Less compression artifacts and crushed blacks.

http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1237/dredd-extras-behind-the-scenes-on-set-making-offs/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 06 February, 2012, 04:49:48 PM
Great pics, gives us a real feel for this movie now and long overdue. Im liking the eagle embellishment on the plating works for me now.

And gore too! Nice to see Justice being dispensed by Cassandra :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 February, 2012, 04:52:30 PM
I played a bit with the exposure and I actually really like this image now.

(http://i42.tinypic.com/2aaftbp.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 06 February, 2012, 04:54:38 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 06 February, 2012, 04:49:48 PM
And gore too! Nice to see Justice being dispensed by Cassandra :)

"PG-13 this!" <Blam!!!>
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: weehawk on 06 February, 2012, 04:59:50 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 February, 2012, 04:52:30 PM
I played a bit with the exposure and I actually really like this image now.

(http://i42.tinypic.com/2aaftbp.jpg)

He kinda' reminds me of Brian Thompson here! He looks great!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 05:01:08 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 06 February, 2012, 04:54:38 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 06 February, 2012, 04:49:48 PM
And gore too! Nice to see Justice being dispensed by Cassandra :)

"PG-13 this!" <Blam!!!>

Too Right! So the violent edit rumour were shit!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 06 February, 2012, 05:07:25 PM
Amazing pics,love the one of Dredd face on.

PERFECT.

Nice bit of claret in the headshot pic...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 06 February, 2012, 05:12:03 PM
Looks great, a bit like Dredd meets Mad Max. MC-1 is clearly a much nastier, low-tech place than it is in the comics, but if the feel of Dredd is maintained, this could be a fantastic action flick. And I think the helmet looks fine in context.

Mind you, one thing they've happily kept from the comics: female judges tend to lose their hats a lot!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 06 February, 2012, 05:18:46 PM
QuoteMind you, one thing they've happily kept from the comics: female judges tend to lose their hats a lot!

Without getting too spoilery about it, [spoiler]this is acknowledged in the script in a rather clever way.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 06 February, 2012, 05:28:55 PM
As for the reflection bit , it reminds when in the '95 film , when the SJS come to arrest Dredd , there's a bit when you can plainly see the reflection of the stage buildings and the fact they are only two stories high in the image. This could be similar.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 February, 2012, 05:36:31 PM
It's weird how these pics came from Spanish Karl Urban fan sites.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 06 February, 2012, 05:43:49 PM
I very much doubt these are stills from the actual film, they look like snaps taken on-set. I wouldn't read anything into that reflection, it's probably just Cape Town.

Still can't quite believe how jarring that helmet looks in that first picture. It blows my mind that something wasn't done about it - surely someone in the cast or crew would have flagged it as a problem?

Bizarrely, it actually appears to be smaller in the close up where it looks fine. Does it just look massive from certain angles or something?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 06 February, 2012, 05:47:05 PM
Quote from: radiator on 06 February, 2012, 05:43:49 PM
Does it just look massive from certain angles or something?

I usually find that... ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 06 February, 2012, 05:48:41 PM
How things look depends on the lens used.

It's why portrait photographers use a longer lens as it's more flattering, where a wider angle close up tends to distort the features.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 06 February, 2012, 05:50:51 PM
Looks fantastic, finally we are getting a proper Dredd film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 February, 2012, 05:55:50 PM
Quote from: radiator on 06 February, 2012, 05:43:49 PM

Still can't quite believe how jarring that helmet looks in that first picture. It blows my mind that something wasn't done about it - surely someone in the cast or crew would have flagged it as a problem?

Bizarrely, it actually appears to be smaller in the close up where it looks fine. Does it just look massive from certain angles or something?

I think it's because his head is tilted down so it casts more of his face in shadow making it seem smaller.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: LARF on 06 February, 2012, 05:56:27 PM
WOW!

I love that shot of Anderson blowing the back of Iain M Banks head off!

This looks like it's going to be a great film!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 06 February, 2012, 06:05:37 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 06 February, 2012, 04:49:48 PM
Great pics, gives us a real feel for this movie now and long overdue. Im liking the eagle embellishment on the plating works for me now.

And gore too! Nice to see Justice being dispensed by Cassandra :)

[spoiler]Is she Shooting?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 06 February, 2012, 06:08:21 PM
I promised myself I wouldn't get drawn into doing photoshops of movie images, but couldn't resist this time.

It's a fine line between badass and bobblehead...

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/radiator_2006/Dredd.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 06 February, 2012, 06:39:51 PM
On the head shot I just noticed the secondary eagle wing under the main pauldron. If you look at the shot of Judge Lex in the Empire article there appears to be another set of eagle tail feathers moulded on the arm of his leathers. I did wonder if Dredd Anderson would be unclipping those Austrialpine Cobras. and slinking out of that bulky vest.

Quote from: radiator on 06 February, 2012, 05:43:49 PM
I very much doubt these are stills from the actual film, they look like snaps taken on-set. I wouldn't read anything into that reflection, its probably just Cape Town.

The big red blob behind him is a display screen outside the entrance to Cape Town Civic Centre. From the cheek wound, and the distressed costume it looks like it was taken when they were shooting the end of the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 06 February, 2012, 06:42:17 PM
Is there anything in the script explaining why Anderson never gets to wear a helmet even in shoot-outs? (Of course we know the true reason is because she's pretty).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 06 February, 2012, 06:49:14 PM
QuoteIs there anything in the script explaining why Anderson never gets to wear a helmet even in shoot-outs? (Of course we know the true reason is because she's pretty).

In short - yes.

[spoiler]They are about to storm an apartment, and the following exchange occurs:

Dredd: "I was wondering when you'd remember that you left your helmet back at base"
Anderson: "Wearing it inteferes with my (psychic) abilities."
Dredd: "Not as much as a bullet would".[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 06 February, 2012, 06:56:09 PM
Fuck yeah! I'm VERY happy with those pics!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 06 February, 2012, 07:04:38 PM
Tantalising, could do with more. Looks like the doom mongers are wrong.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 06 February, 2012, 07:22:06 PM
Quote from: radiator on 06 February, 2012, 06:49:14 PM
In short - yes.

[spoiler]They are about to storm an apartment, and the following exchange occurs:

Dredd: "I was wondering when you'd remember that you left your helmet back at base"
Anderson: "Wearing it inteferes with my (psychic) abilities."
Dredd: "Not as much as a bullet would".[/spoiler]

Which is a perfectly good rationale for her not wearing it and a nice bit of Wagneresque deadpan Dredd!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 06 February, 2012, 07:32:33 PM
Yep. My abiding impression from the script - of which I have only read the first 10-12 pages, and very lightly skimmed the rest - is that it utterly nails the character and attitude of Dredd, and that to me is the most important thing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 06 February, 2012, 07:36:14 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 06 February, 2012, 06:39:51 PM
On the head shot I just noticed the secondary eagle wing under the main pauldron. If you look at the shot of Judge Lex in the Empire article there appears to be another set of eagle tail feathers moulded on the arm of his leathers. I did wonder if Dredd Anderson would be unclipping those Austrialpine Cobras. and slinking out of that bulky vest.

Have two (probably stupid) theories about that. Didn't Wagner make a suggestion early on about the costumes being altered to match the comic a little better? Wonder if the vests and pads are part of that and they cover up what the original costume had in place?

Also, think how much BIGGER those helmets would look on someone's head without that added padding and armor. I think it looks fucking excellent as it is but wonder what the first pass at the costumes looked like.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 06 February, 2012, 08:11:12 PM
These appear to be promo shots rather than actual stills taken from the finished film.

But either way they look great!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 08:19:42 PM
What is the significance of the indented recess moulding on the left gauntlet? It ain't on the right gauntlet:


(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6985/d11c.jpg)




Ben Wilsher has started drawing it on both sides; that'll teach him, jumpin' the gun lke that:


(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vnhVP0WJTgs/TymD2v1nl9I/AAAAAAAADl0/D_v4zDWg0po/s400/boris%2B5.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 06 February, 2012, 08:26:48 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 06 February, 2012, 05:12:03 PM
Mind you, one thing they've happily kept from the comics: female judges tend to lose their hats a lot!

That's Helmets not hats. Come on get with the programme.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 06 February, 2012, 08:28:19 PM
Like the new images. Nice, gory head shot which is what we want. The slight bubblehead I can live with.

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 08:19:42 PM
What is the significance of the indented recess moulding on the left gauntlet? It ain't on the right gauntlet:

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6985/d11c.jpg)


No idea. Can't figure it out either.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 06 February, 2012, 08:29:26 PM
Forgot to add. Fuck fuck fucketty fuck. Even more exited about the film now.
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 06 February, 2012, 06:05:37 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 06 February, 2012, 04:49:48 PM
Great pics, gives us a real feel for this movie now and long overdue. Im liking the eagle embellishment on the plating works for me now.

And gore too! Nice to see Justice being dispensed by Cassandra :)

[spoiler]Is she Shooting?[/spoiler]
The armoury would be pretty stupid to let her fire a blank that close to another actors face.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklambo on 06 February, 2012, 08:34:51 PM
Seeing those pictures I guarantee that the size of the helmet is down to the fact that they had to make it like that so that the respirator can come down and cover the face (maybe join up with the front of the helmet....you can see in the picture taken from above that the respirator section is much bigger than in the comics...forming part of the top of the helmet....)....Oh....And I think it is all getting pretty exciting now....!!..Love the Eagle shoulder pad....and yes..it looks like there is a smaller Eagle underneath the body armour... :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 06 February, 2012, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 06 February, 2012, 08:26:48 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 06 February, 2012, 05:12:03 PM
Mind you, one thing they've happily kept from the comics: female judges tend to lose their hats a lot!

That's Helmets not hats. Come on get with the programme.




V

Every time anyone writes a post including the world 'helmet', someone  else imaginatively and hilariously makes the witty and clever observation that the word is slang for the end of a cock. Guessing that's why he used 'hat' instead.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 08:40:15 PM
I've seen mask used a few times which really sounds poxy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 06 February, 2012, 08:41:38 PM
Just caught these pics over on Facebook, Great stuff! I know the release date is an age away, but i wish theyd release more stuff like this. Guess everyone is now excited all over again....
That pic of Anderson............ :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 06 February, 2012, 08:43:33 PM
I recommend 'lid' and 'headgear' as moron-proof alternatives.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 06 February, 2012, 08:43:44 PM
Quote


(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6985/d11c.jpg)

Mini commlink screen?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 08:44:44 PM
Quote from: The return of Judge Jack on 06 February, 2012, 08:41:38 PM
I know the release date is an age away, but i wish theyd release more stuff like this. Guess everyone is now excited all over again....




Y'see, doesn't matter what they release or when, you all want more and for it to be here yesterday. I'm enjoying the slow release and glad it's not out in Spring and that it's still several months away.


Won't clash with the RAID in March either.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 08:45:36 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 06 February, 2012, 08:43:44 PM
Quote


(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6985/d11c.jpg)

Mini commlink screen?



That's what I'd surmised but wasn't willing to say. It'll be CGI then if so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 06 February, 2012, 08:49:02 PM
Lovely set of stills complimenting and expanding on the Empire pictures released earlier. Looks like a slow trickle awareness campaign for DREDD is underway ... thank grud.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 06 February, 2012, 08:51:45 PM

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 08:45:36 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 06 February, 2012, 08:43:44 PM
Quote

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6985/d11c.jpg)
Mini commlink screen?
That's what I'd surmised but wasn't willing to say. It'll be CGI then if so.

Surely Dredd communicates via his helmet Visored Helm?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 08:52:50 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 06 February, 2012, 08:51:45 PM
Surely Dredd communicates via his helmet Visored Helm?



Why?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 09:03:33 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 08:19:42 PM
What is the significance of the indented recess moulding on the left gauntlet? It ain't on the right gauntlet:

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6985/d11c.jpg)


Sorry but what are you on about?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 06 February, 2012, 09:04:16 PM
AHA! They've changed it from the comic strip! Looks better visually rather than talking on his helmet Mike.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 06 February, 2012, 09:08:14 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 08:44:44 PM
Quote from: The return of Judge Jack on 06 February, 2012, 08:41:38 PM
I know the release date is an age away, but i wish theyd release more stuff like this. Guess everyone is now excited all over again....

Y'see, doesn't matter what they release or when, you all want more and for it to be here yesterday. I'm enjoying the slow release and glad it's not out in Spring and that it's still several months away.

Oh i agree Joe, just a bit excited, is all. Not after a deluge, just a bit more than the nearly dried up trickle of late. At this stage, slow is the way to go - September is a loooong way off yet, but after the negitive rumours circulating - directors being let go, alleged cuts to tone down violence etc, something like these photos gets everyone smiling again. This boy can wait, honest.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 09:09:44 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 09:03:33 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 08:19:42 PM
What is the significance of the indented recess moulding on the left gauntlet? It ain't on the right gauntlet:

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6985/d11c.jpg)


Sorry but what are you on about?



What's the difference between the left & right glove?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 09:11:53 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 09:09:44 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 09:03:33 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 08:19:42 PM
What is the significance of the indented recess moulding on the left gauntlet? It ain't on the right gauntlet:

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6985/d11c.jpg)


Sorry but what are you on about?



What's the difference between the left & right glove?

A patch on left arm? AND?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 09:12:46 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 09:11:53 PM

A patch on left arm? AND?



What. Is. It.?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 09:16:03 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 09:12:46 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 09:11:53 PM

A patch on left arm? AND?



What. Is. It.?

Wait. Till. The. Film. Out?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 09:18:03 PM
Why bother asking me what I asked?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 06 February, 2012, 09:20:08 PM
new piccys look good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 February, 2012, 09:22:19 PM
It looks like something can be slipped in there, like on pilots flight suits.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 09:22:31 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 09:12:46 PM
What. Is. It.?

Could it be;

Video link?
Access patch?
Could be something that need on his left arm when he is right hand for hand weapons?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 06 February, 2012, 09:30:13 PM
Where did this Spanish Karl Urban website get these pics? Who sent them ?

Most look official though I feel the Karl Urban pic with the building reflected in the Visor seems more Ad hoc. Good photo though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: LARF on 06 February, 2012, 09:30:50 PM
[spoiler]It's where the birdie/comm unit goes, IIRC from the script doesn't it get lost?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 06 February, 2012, 09:34:27 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 09:22:31 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 09:12:46 PM
What. Is. It.?

Could it be;

Video link?
Access patch?
Could be something that need on his left arm when he is right hand for hand weapons?

That's some good nit picking there lads. Keep it up. ;-p

Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 February, 2012, 09:22:19 PM
It looks like something can be slipped in there....

Ooo-er missus
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 06 February, 2012, 09:54:07 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 09:22:31 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 09:12:46 PM
What. Is. It.?

Could it be;

Video link?
Access patch?
Could be something that need on his left arm when he is right hand for hand weapons?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/defyitall/Clone%20Wars%20Armor%20Project/Compad/Reference/Compad6.png)

-Walks away quickly whistling innocently-
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 09:56:19 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 06 February, 2012, 09:54:07 PM
-Walks away quickly whistling innocently-

*whisper* thanks mate!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 09:58:29 PM
It's where the bio-chip goes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 06 February, 2012, 10:41:59 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 09:22:31 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 09:12:46 PM
What. Is. It.?

Could it be;

Video link?
Access patch?
Could be something that need on his left arm when he is right hand for hand weapons?

Motorcycle cop.. Which side is your throttle on?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 06 February, 2012, 10:42:57 PM
..I know what it is..  :-X

Anywho, pics and stuff here too: http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/02/new-dredd-photos-show-exploding-brain-ol.php
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 11:06:25 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 06 February, 2012, 10:42:57 PM
..I know what it is..  :-X



Yeah but you can't say. Scaredy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 06 February, 2012, 11:12:51 PM
Scaredy or not.. I still know what it is  :D

(http://forladiesbyladies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/buzz.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 11:14:41 PM
Ooops, 50 lashes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 06 February, 2012, 11:16:08 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 06 February, 2012, 11:12:51 PM
Scaredy or not.. I still know what it is  :D

(http://forladiesbyladies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/buzz.jpg)

It's a sticker?  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 11:16:17 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 11:06:25 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 06 February, 2012, 10:42:57 PM
..I know what it is..  :-X



Yeah but you can't say. Scaredy.

Oh no could it be...?

(http://mimg.ugo.com/201004/42069/predator2-sef-destruct.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: clavell on 06 February, 2012, 11:17:27 PM
Looking good :)

- C
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 06 February, 2012, 11:18:52 PM
I can't wait to hear him talk, he looks like he's going to come out with some real satirical lines. Face on him!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 06 February, 2012, 11:21:01 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 11:14:41 PM
Ooops, 50 lashes.

I'll just blame you :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 06 February, 2012, 11:24:03 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 09:12:46 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 09:11:53 PM
A patch on left arm? AND?
What. Is. It.?
Looks like an ordinary pocket to me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 11:25:55 PM
It isn't now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 07 February, 2012, 12:04:44 AM
just watching Escape from New York on the box ... the new DREDD pictures have a similar look. The green lighting / tints and desolate backdrops especially.  The crazies taking on Snake look abit more menacing than the ones in the DREDD pic's though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 07 February, 2012, 12:12:09 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 04:07:29 PM

Like that lawgiver!


You I'll keep..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 February, 2012, 12:13:29 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 07 February, 2012, 12:12:09 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 February, 2012, 04:07:29 PM

Like that lawgiver!


You I'll keep..

Keep for what?  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 07 February, 2012, 02:29:51 AM
I hadn't even noticed the second eagle before but it is blatantly obvious in the glowy red ight pic. Strange.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 07 February, 2012, 04:26:04 AM
OH BABY!!!  Ahem, sorry about that, just logged on and saw these awesome new pics (late to the party as usual), if anyone has anything negative to say (Scott?) then speak now or forever hold your peace, 'cause any doubts about this movie should be well and truly dispelled, they look fantastic (is it me or does Anderson look so vulnerable, you just wanna give 'er a hug, sorry but true :-[), and I agree with dracula1, I too was watching the awesome Escape from New York on ITV4, and Dredd really does have that kind of vibe to it- a very good thing, in my book!

I wonder if the pics were released to counter some of the negative tittle-tattle on some forums (no names of course ;)), if they did, I think they just righted the good ship Dredd in fine fashion, the first trailer may not be released yet, but these will do fine, kudos DNA Films, and kudos Michaelvk (the props look great), those pics will do just nicely for now...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Waltev on 07 February, 2012, 05:52:25 AM
I like the new images a lot. Anderson's (Thirlby's) shooting stance looks a bit off to me, though... I've never seen anyone fire a weapon with their back and legs that straight and legs / feet so level.

Well, promo shots (:)) I guess.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 07 February, 2012, 06:08:10 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 06 February, 2012, 08:28:19 PM
Like the new images. Nice, gory head shot which is what we want. The slight bubblehead I can live with.

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2012, 08:19:42 PM
What is the significance of the indented recess moulding on the left gauntlet? It ain't on the right gauntlet:

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6985/d11c.jpg)

My first thought were that they are magnets for fixing ammo mags too when hes in a rush,under fire etc

Just a guess?
No idea. Can't figure it out either.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 07 February, 2012, 07:36:14 AM
Quote from: Waltev on 07 February, 2012, 05:52:25 AM
I like the new images a lot. Anderson's (Thirlby's) shooting stance looks a bit off to me, though... I've never seen anyone fire a weapon with their back and legs that straight and legs / feet so level.

Well, promo shots (:)) I guess.

[spoiler]Hmm... could it be that she isn't shooting?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 07 February, 2012, 10:16:17 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/RZxTU.jpg)

Looks like she's firing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 07 February, 2012, 11:00:01 AM
Quote from: Waltev on 07 February, 2012, 05:52:25 AM
I like the new images a lot. Anderson's (Thirlby's) shooting stance looks a bit off to me, though... I've never seen anyone fire a weapon with their back and legs that straight and legs / feet so level.

Well, promo shots (:)) I guess.

She's new at dispensing justice and doing it with vunerbility ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dash Decent on 07 February, 2012, 11:01:23 AM
If she was shooting downward (towards the perp), wouldn't the stuff spraying out the back of his head be spraying more downwards rather than upwards?  It could be she's got the gun trained on him and someone else shoots him.  Or it could just be the timing of the photo, or something completely unnoticeable in the split second it appears on screen.

Quote from: vzzbux on 06 February, 2012, 08:26:48 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 06 February, 2012, 05:12:03 PM
Mind you, one thing they've happily kept from the comics: female judges tend to lose their hats a lot!

That's Helmets not hats. Come on get with the programme.

C'mon, how many female Judges have you seen with hats?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dash Decent on 07 February, 2012, 11:02:33 AM
Quote from: Dash Decent on 07 February, 2012, 11:01:23 AM
If she was shooting downward (towards the perp), wouldn't the stuff spraying out the back of his head be spraying more downwards rather than upwards?  It could be she's got the gun trained on him and someone else shoots him.  Or it could just be the timing of the photo, or something completely unnoticeable in the split second it appears on screen.

Quote from: vzzbux on 06 February, 2012, 08:26:48 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 06 February, 2012, 05:12:03 PM
Mind you, one thing they've happily kept from the comics: female judges tend to lose their hats a lot!

That's Helmets not hats. Come on get with the programme.

C'mon, how many female Judges have you seen with hats? Q.E.D.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dash Decent on 07 February, 2012, 11:04:15 AM
I swear that 'Modify' button disappeared and turned into 'Quote' in the micro second it took to click on it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 February, 2012, 11:06:37 AM
Now it's at Total Film; http://www.totalfilm.com/news/new-dredd-images-arrive (http://www.totalfilm.com/news/new-dredd-images-arrive)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 07 February, 2012, 12:01:35 PM
Tremendous new pictures. Looks fantastic. Dredd looks well good offing the scum with his Lawgiver!

I still think the helmet looks fine. Bigger than we're used to but still fine.

Roll on September!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 07 February, 2012, 12:03:28 PM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 07 February, 2012, 04:26:04 AMis it me or does Anderson look so vulnerable, you just wanna give 'er a hug
Judge assault—ten years, creep!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 07 February, 2012, 01:46:29 PM
The new pics are great, and Olivia Thirlby looks perfect as Anderson.The only concern for me from the pics though is the distinct lack of any future tech.I can see they have gone for a dark and gritty look, just hope we get to see at least some of the Mega City that we know and love -fingerds crossed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 07 February, 2012, 02:12:45 PM
Actual footage from Judge Dredd cartoon

http://youtu.be/CFVq7vPtWno (http://youtu.be/CFVq7vPtWno)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 07 February, 2012, 02:35:21 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 07 February, 2012, 02:12:45 PM
Actual footage from Judge Dredd cartoon

http://youtu.be/CFVq7vPtWno (http://youtu.be/CFVq7vPtWno)

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 07 February, 2012, 03:07:35 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 07 February, 2012, 02:12:45 PM
Actual footage from Judge Dredd cartoon

http://youtu.be/CFVq7vPtWno (http://youtu.be/CFVq7vPtWno)
'kin brilliant. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 February, 2012, 04:00:28 PM
I think this film is getting pretty well hyped considering how little has been revealed. 4 Pictures has kick started a whole lot of discussion and i've seen tons of film news sites re-post those pics too.

Though I don't think the film production actually intended those pics to be leaked, they don't seem very official.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 07 February, 2012, 04:43:20 PM
Well, we saw 'em here first. It's pretty mouth watering stuff, a small trickle of new pics we soon turn into a flood. I'm also curious to find out how the rest of the scenery is going to look. No hint of what the Law Masters will look like.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 07 February, 2012, 04:49:59 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 07 February, 2012, 03:07:35 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 07 February, 2012, 02:12:45 PM
Actual footage from Judge Dredd cartoon

http://youtu.be/CFVq7vPtWno (http://youtu.be/CFVq7vPtWno)
'kin brilliant.

Loving this short.  They should have it on before the Dredd film in 3D  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 07 February, 2012, 05:41:36 PM
The angle of the brain shot looks about right. Even from point blank you can get a ricochet from the skull. Entrance wound and exit wound dont always tally up.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 07 February, 2012, 06:04:59 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 07 February, 2012, 05:41:36 PM
The angle of the brain shot looks about right.
V
:| :eh:


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 07 February, 2012, 06:45:31 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 07 February, 2012, 02:12:45 PM
Actual footage from Judge Dredd cartoon

http://youtu.be/CFVq7vPtWno (http://youtu.be/CFVq7vPtWno)

:lol: Brilliant! Should have had Mrs Gunderson as Aunt Flo!

Also, Anderson's looking better and better, liking the shoulder eagle too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 07 February, 2012, 09:04:40 PM
Great new pics. (And love the cartoon.) Interesting how they combine the badge/respirator motif in the shoulder eagle design.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 07 February, 2012, 09:14:44 PM
I want that Bod episode in the cinema before the feature!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 07 February, 2012, 09:46:34 PM
I have been trawling through the comment threads on several news sites to engage feedback from these photos and the American public just dont get Dredd without tieing him in with a certain Stallone movie.

I had to comment on a few to put them right. Anyone else see the shite comments from so called Dredd affecinados ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 07 February, 2012, 09:50:13 PM
Dredd (2012) to Judge Dredd is what Batman Begins is to Batman & Robin.

If they can figure out what The Amazing Spider-Man is in terms of prequel/reboot/whatever (I sure don't know), they can sure as hell understand what Dredd is.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 07 February, 2012, 11:13:12 PM
Just a query....would Dredd's stubble be the result of being stuck fighting perps in the block for several days?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 February, 2012, 11:21:54 PM
[spoiler]just one day[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 07 February, 2012, 11:42:21 PM
Ah...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 February, 2012, 01:52:57 AM
I expect this has been said before but i cant be a$$ed trawling through multiple pages. What are the ages of Anderson and Dredd in this movie ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 08 February, 2012, 03:15:41 AM
IIRC, the ages aren't mentioned in the (leaked) script draft you can read online, Kowalsky dude, but Anderson is a young rookie, so probably around the same ages the characters' actors are; Karl Urban- 38, Olivia Thirlby- 24...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 08 February, 2012, 03:19:55 AM
... sorry, correction; Karl Urban- 39, Olivia Thirlby- 25, never was good at mathmatics ::)...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 08 February, 2012, 05:24:27 AM
Well, I'm doing my best to spread the word.

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=5428049&fpart=1

Getting good reactions.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 February, 2012, 08:22:04 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 February, 2012, 01:52:57 AM
I expect this has been said before but i cant be a$$ed trawling through multiple pages. What are the ages of Anderson and Dredd in this movie ?



I'm assuming Anderson is 20, if you accept that she's a rookie -enrolled at the age of 5- who's gone through 15 years at the academy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 08 February, 2012, 08:25:59 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 February, 2012, 08:22:04 AM
I'm assuming Anderson is 20....

"...your Honour".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 February, 2012, 08:31:36 AM
If she's old enough to be a Judge in leather.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 08 February, 2012, 08:38:54 AM
Full eagle means fully legal?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 08 February, 2012, 11:08:07 AM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 07 February, 2012, 11:13:12 PM
Just a query....would Dredd's stubble be the result of being stuck fighting perps in the block for several days?
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 February, 2012, 11:21:54 PM
[spoiler]just one day[/spoiler]
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 07 February, 2012, 11:42:21 PM
Ah...

I'm glad this film is shot in just 3D and not also in Smell-o-vision.

Seriously though, you can't expect Dredd not to get some blood spattered on his uniform during a typical day in Mega City One.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 08 February, 2012, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 08 February, 2012, 08:38:54 AM
Full eagle means fully legal?

:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 08 February, 2012, 01:43:38 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 08 February, 2012, 08:38:54 AM
Full eagle means fully legal?

i just spat my tea out 8-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 08 February, 2012, 09:29:33 PM
Is this it...

T
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 08 February, 2012, 09:42:28 PM
Is what it?




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: golledge100 on 08 February, 2012, 09:45:35 PM
Is this what?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 08 February, 2012, 10:40:49 PM
The T that's been spat out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 08 February, 2012, 11:46:47 PM
there it is again....


T
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 08 February, 2012, 11:57:17 PM
Its growing...

One day it may pose a threat to the city, mark my words  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 08 February, 2012, 11:58:22 PM
TTTT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 09 February, 2012, 01:54:07 PM
(http://2000ad.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/dredd.jpg)

If this is some kind of stumm gas is Dredd using his helmet respirator it not?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 February, 2012, 02:03:58 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 09 February, 2012, 01:54:07 PM
If this is some kind of stumm gas is Dredd using his helmet respirator it not?

Could it aftermath of heavy gunfight?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: klute on 09 February, 2012, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 09 February, 2012, 02:03:58 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 09 February, 2012, 01:54:07 PM
If this is some kind of stumm gas is Dredd using his helmet respirator it not?

Could it aftermath of heavy gunfight?

Could it be gas from a perp's arse after seeing Dredd dispense some justice?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 09 February, 2012, 08:03:04 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 09 February, 2012, 01:54:07 PM
(http://2000ad.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/dredd.jpg)

If this is some kind of stumm gas is Dredd using his helmet respirator it not?

Respirator doesn't seem to be down.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mogzilla on 09 February, 2012, 08:50:19 PM
well, i'm blown away! not as much as the perp with the migraine but still, :D

looks fandabbydoozy!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 09 February, 2012, 11:55:12 PM
Had a horrible thought - what is the bet that some wanker re-releases a certain movie from 1995 to cash on the publicity from Dredd?
<shudder>
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SpetsnaZ99 on 10 February, 2012, 08:52:53 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 08 February, 2012, 08:38:54 AM
Full eagle means fully legal?

LOL. Perhaps this should have been posted in the 'Things that went over your head... ' thread

ahem..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: malkymac on 10 February, 2012, 09:40:57 AM
Quote from: Angry Vince on 09 February, 2012, 11:55:12 PM
Had a horrible thought - what is the bet that some wanker re-releases a certain movie from 1995 to cash on the publicity from Dredd?
<shudder>

What publicity would that be? :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 10 February, 2012, 12:03:03 PM
FOOTAGE!

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz0g8ua2Y91qafqw8o1_500.gif)

FROM
http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1237/dredd-extras-behind-the-scenes-on-set-making-offs/15/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 February, 2012, 12:07:22 PM
Quote from: malkymac on 10 February, 2012, 09:40:57 AM
What publicity would that be? :P

like this?

(http://i43.tinypic.com/29bk8dv.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 10 February, 2012, 12:07:57 PM
Jovus!   :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 February, 2012, 12:13:55 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 10 February, 2012, 12:03:03 PM
FOOTAGE!

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz0g8ua2Y91qafqw8o1_500.gif)

FROM
http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1237/dredd-extras-behind-the-scenes-on-set-making-offs/15/

WOO! WHere that from???? Like the dark noir about that! They just executing him like that????
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 10 February, 2012, 12:17:05 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 10 February, 2012, 12:13:55 PM
They just executing him like that????

You've read the comic book, yes? ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 February, 2012, 12:19:08 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 10 February, 2012, 12:17:05 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 10 February, 2012, 12:13:55 PM
They just executing him like that????

You've read the comic book, yes? ;)

Yes but not that I expected!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 10 February, 2012, 12:21:24 PM
Standard execution!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 February, 2012, 12:25:23 PM
SPOILERS! Jeez...

Helmets actually look fine in that micro-snippet - woohoo!

QuoteHad a horrible thought - what is the bet that some wanker re-releases a certain movie from 1995 to cash on the publicity from Dredd?
<shudder>

I'm actually quite looking forward to them releasing Dredd '95 on Blu ray - which is surely going to happen between now and September...

I know you can get it from Amazon Germany, but I'm holding out for a proper UK release - I've never owned a copy of the Stallone Dredd on any format...

QuoteThey just executing him like that????

[spoiler]They're bent judges...[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 10 February, 2012, 12:26:49 PM
Thanks for the massive spoiler there.

BTW - who's in favour of not just adding every new image, clip and news item to this thread? I hate message boards at the best of times, but message boards boards 60+ pages of replies are loathsome.

I think this last update would have really benefited from a new thread with the subject: Short animated GIF from DREDD - SPOILER ALERT.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 10 February, 2012, 12:28:40 PM
"Animated gif of some masked white folk shooting a black dude in the head sends Internet into meltdown. More news at one."

That's unexpected- and as has been the case with all the promo/ leaked gubbins so far, massively contradictory. Judge on the left- hat looks great! Judge in the middle- huge inflata-hat!

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 10 February, 2012, 12:30:43 PM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 10 February, 2012, 12:26:49 PMI hate message boards at the best of times...

And yet you want this one to accommodate your specific wishes.

However, I do sort-of agree: while I think any sane person would expect spoilers on this thread, maybe a 'clips' thread would be a good idea.  It is a big step forward.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 February, 2012, 12:31:29 PM
I really don't know what they're thinking of the way these things are leaked, some animated gif on a celeb fan site?

It's one thing to get spy pics, another to have access to actual footage...


[spoiler]
it's a fairly major plot point if you've read the script...[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 February, 2012, 12:32:29 PM
According to this website, Judge Dredd (1995) is down for a unspecified 2012 Blu Ray release.

Interestingly, the distributor appears to be Disney/Buena Vista - ISTR hearing that Disney now own the rights to US movie Dredd...

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/releasedates.html (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/releasedates.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 February, 2012, 12:33:40 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 10 February, 2012, 12:30:43 PM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 10 February, 2012, 12:26:49 PMI hate message boards at the best of times...

And yet you want this one to accommodate your specific wishes.

However, I do sort-of agree: while I think any sane person would expect spoilers on this thread, maybe a 'clips' thread would be a good idea.  It is a big step forward.

Presumably that's the whole point of this board having spoiler tags, yeah?

So for those people who don't want things spoilt it's a bit difficult if it's an animated gif...

Not entirely unreasonable...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 10 February, 2012, 12:35:44 PM
Gun's cycling nicely  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 10 February, 2012, 12:36:53 PM
Radiator- I'd suggest keeping a close eye on the BBFC website. There's nothing post-1997 on there at the moment, which suggests that even if the Stallone film is up for rerelease, the distributor has done nothing about it as yet- certainly no new extras or wotnot. It also tells us no trailer or promo material has been submitted for the 2012 version yet.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 10 February, 2012, 12:41:42 PM
It's only really a spoiler if you've read the script. So surely drawing attention to the fact it's a spoiler merely increases the spoiling? I haven't read the script, so didn't know.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 February, 2012, 12:42:20 PM
I can't imagine there will be anything substantial in the way of extras, the German BR doesn't have much, and I'm guessing the French one is the same.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 10 February, 2012, 12:46:31 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 10 February, 2012, 12:42:20 PM
I can't imagine there will be anything substantial in the way of extras, the German BR doesn't have much, and I'm guessing the French one is the same.

Yeah, but one must always hope. Personally, the film I'm REALLY looking forward to is any possible ASYLUM Dredd rip-off. 'Future Cop Grimm", or similar.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 February, 2012, 12:50:03 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 10 February, 2012, 12:41:42 PM
It's only really a spoiler if you've read the script. So surely drawing attention to the fact it's a spoiler merely increases the spoiling? I haven't read the script, so didn't know.

[spoiler]Or make you wonder why 3 judges are gunning down somebody who seems to be no threat?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 10 February, 2012, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 10 February, 2012, 12:50:03 PM
[spoiler]Or make you wonder why 3 judges are gunning down somebody who seems to be no threat?[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I've clearly become too inured to the random brutality of the judges system ;) [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 10 February, 2012, 01:06:53 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 10 February, 2012, 12:28:40 PM
"Animated gif of some masked white folk shooting a black dude in the head sends Internet into meltdown. More news at one."

That's unexpected- and as has been the case with all the promo/ leaked gubbins so far, massively contradictory. Judge on the left- hat looks great! Judge in the middle- huge inflata-hat!

SBT

Reminds me of a scene in the film The Man Who Would Be King, with the natives playing polo using enemys head as the ball after a battle..Big head =Big ball.

So, big Judge head= big judge helmet,I dont see a problem.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 February, 2012, 01:13:25 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 10 February, 2012, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 10 February, 2012, 12:50:03 PM
[spoiler]Or make you wonder why 3 judges are gunning down somebody who seems to be no threat?[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I've clearly become too inured to the random brutality of the judges system ;) [/spoiler]

[spoiler]Or the random brutality of Tharg... :)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 10 February, 2012, 01:14:09 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 10 February, 2012, 01:13:25 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 10 February, 2012, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 10 February, 2012, 12:50:03 PM
[spoiler]Or make you wonder why 3 judges are gunning down somebody who seems to be no threat?[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I've clearly become too inured to the random brutality of the judges system ;) [/spoiler]

[spoiler]Or the random brutality of Tharg... :)[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Weeps at the memories[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 10 February, 2012, 01:17:21 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 10 February, 2012, 12:35:44 PM
Gun's cycling nicely  :)
:D 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 10 February, 2012, 01:19:25 PM
Ka-blam!  who'd have thought a gif file on a Spanish site.  Amazing gif and liking the subversive back door promo the new DREDD film is starting to take.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 10 February, 2012, 01:24:20 PM
Looks Mega. That's not exactly high resolution but it's got me thinking happy thoughts about someone having their head blown off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 10 February, 2012, 01:29:42 PM
Great stuff indeed. Was wondering when some footage would appear, and now we have some.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 10 February, 2012, 01:42:25 PM
The lid differences are great. And the way the executed dude drops away to reveal another semi-silhouetted Judge figure is ghafflebetasmic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 10 February, 2012, 01:43:05 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 10 February, 2012, 01:24:20 PM
Looks Mega. That's not exactly high resolution but it's got me thinking happy thoughts about someone having their head blown off.

Er perhaps I should have re phrased that as I really like the footage rather than I  like people being shot in the head. Sorry if it came across as a little crass.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 10 February, 2012, 01:45:32 PM
Quote

Er perhaps I should have re phrased that as I really like the footage rather than I  like people being shot in the head. Sorry if it came across as a little crass.

Don't worry, we understand.  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 10 February, 2012, 02:12:58 PM
Looking good... had a bit of zarjazasm over it...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 10 February, 2012, 02:20:47 PM
Hope you had your hat ready.....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 10 February, 2012, 02:37:34 PM
Brilliant!

"That was so arsom I shunned it into a hat".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 February, 2012, 02:48:32 PM


Just a simple image;
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz0g8ua2Y91qafqw8o1_500.gif)

to destory any link to 1995 version!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 February, 2012, 02:49:23 PM
Seriously! How does a Karl Urban fansite get access to this stuff? Unless it's Karl Urban himself?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 10 February, 2012, 02:51:54 PM
Looks like this new film might be a bit of a white knuckle ride. We're definitely in for a few surprises by the look of it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 10 February, 2012, 02:58:15 PM
Looking grittier and darker by the minute. Top find! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: clavell on 10 February, 2012, 03:52:23 PM
holy grud.

footage  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 10 February, 2012, 03:56:32 PM
Brutal, dark and grim (no not the boarders) this looks great. The Judges, menacing figures in an urban hell.

It is Mega city One.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 10 February, 2012, 04:10:56 PM
Quote from: Zarjazzer on 10 February, 2012, 03:56:32 PM
Brutal, dark and grim

All rejected names for the clones of Fargo.  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 10 February, 2012, 04:12:04 PM
To borrow a meme, BOOM, Headshot!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 10 February, 2012, 04:13:14 PM
 WOW!! :o That footage is hypnotic.  Mickaelvk, is the smoke produced by a gas canister? They wouldn't fire a blank that close to an actors head would they?
Helmets look fine..... It seems to me that they look larger when shot stright on, the black padding inside the helmet gives the impression of a deep shadow, making the head appear smaller/ helmet bigger.
Looking forward to this film even more now.

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 February, 2012, 04:20:50 PM
I have to say one thing, The Lawgiver looks fab!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 February, 2012, 04:27:35 PM
This is all so weird - really curious to know where these photos and the gif came from. The stills seemed pretty official-looking, but the gif? Very strange indeed...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 10 February, 2012, 04:42:00 PM
Everything I hoped it would look like,I'm surprised.

F=ck you Avengers.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 10 February, 2012, 05:38:46 PM
Never in my wildest dream..dark Dredd violence on the big screen..the judges looking more oppressive than I ever thought we would see on the silver screen

I'm beyond excited at the moment

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 10 February, 2012, 05:43:22 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 February, 2012, 04:27:35 PM
This is all so weird - really curious to know where these photos and the gif came from. The stills seemed pretty official-looking, but the gif? Very strange indeed...

Seconded -exactly what I am thinking...Curiouser and Curiouser. :eh:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 February, 2012, 05:53:40 PM
Trying to work out if the judge in the BG is carrying some sort of shotgun...?

There are notable differences (the visor comes down a lot further for one), but for some reason the movie helmets really remind me of this Kev Walker image:

(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/hires/985.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 10 February, 2012, 06:53:03 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 10 February, 2012, 12:03:03 PM
FOOTAGE!

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz0g8ua2Y91qafqw8o1_500.gif)

FROM
http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1237/dredd-extras-behind-the-scenes-on-set-making-offs/15/

The helmets seem to make sense when see them in live action.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 February, 2012, 07:18:13 PM

Sorry for being geek and slowing down the gif...

Yes looks like shotgun with Judge in background.

(http://i.imgur.com/9vTKG.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 10 February, 2012, 07:19:35 PM
Definate shotgun im sure of it. Also this is the perp who appeared in the fifth photo released ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 10 February, 2012, 07:53:46 PM
Nothin' but people getting their heads blown off! Haha! Fucking love it! The thing I'm most excited about is the violence we've seen snippets of so far already distinguishes this from every other comic-movie adaptation out there. Everyone else tries to appeal to the lowest common denominator when it comes to marketing their comic book movie to get everyone's bum on a seat and this is the exact opposite: Here's the level of violence and tone you can expect. Either you're in or you're out. Can't fucking wait for a trailer now...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 10 February, 2012, 08:02:26 PM
Excitement level rising.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklambo on 10 February, 2012, 08:32:14 PM
EEEEKKKK....!!!! :o :o :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 10 February, 2012, 08:53:40 PM
BOOOOM!!!! AVE THAT!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 10 February, 2012, 09:04:28 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 10 February, 2012, 07:18:13 PM
Sorry for being geek and slowing down the gif...
Yes looks like shotgun with Judge in background.
(http://i.imgur.com/9vTKG.gif)

Perp alert! Goaty's been taking the illegal drug Slo mo!

You can see from the 'Public Information Message' how Justice Department deals with offenders. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 10 February, 2012, 09:12:04 PM
I think these are Judges on the wrong side of the law.

Someone involved closely with the film must have posted this on the internet first.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 10 February, 2012, 09:15:40 PM
Love to see this @ its proper speed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 February, 2012, 09:23:18 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 10 February, 2012, 09:04:28 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 10 February, 2012, 07:18:13 PM
Sorry for being geek and slowing down the gif...
Yes looks like shotgun with Judge in background.
(http://i.imgur.com/9vTKG.gif)

Perp alert! Goaty's been taking the illegal drug Slo mo!

You can see from the 'Public Information Message' how Justice Department deals with offenders. ;)

Shh!!!!

Oh fuck they gonna to getting me! I am so happy with the footage as that the way I like the new Dredd will be!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 10 February, 2012, 09:39:46 PM
Silly old goat.

Maybe they'll just think you are a serial confessor... oh wait, they'll cube you for that too!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 10 February, 2012, 09:42:02 PM
[spoiler]4 Judges for Titan? [/spoiler]

This is of course a blurred snippet of the Film and who knows how long before the long arm of the Law [yes Lawyers!] issues something nasty the old Cease and Desist order. The Empire Dredd photos suddenly seem a long time ago.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Woolly on 10 February, 2012, 09:59:32 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 February, 2012, 05:53:40 PM
Trying to work out if the judge in the BG is carrying some sort of shotgun...?

There are notable differences (the visor comes down a lot further for one), but for some reason the movie helmets really remind me of this Kev Walker image:

(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/hires/985.jpg)

Yeah, they definately seem to be Walker influenced designs around the visor. I'd go as far as saying based on his work on Sin City*

As for the very welcome, yet a bit strange gif - absolute arsomness! As Goaty said, this instantly seperates it from the '95 effort.


*the Dredd one, obviously!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 10 February, 2012, 10:11:05 PM

Quote from: CraveNoir on 10 February, 2012, 12:03:03 PM
FOOTAGE!

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz0g8ua2Y91qafqw8o1_500.gif)

FROM
http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1237/dredd-extras-behind-the-scenes-on-set-making-offs/15/

Background looks good, not much to see but doesn't stand out as being in any way less than fitting in with the overall tone we've seen so far.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 February, 2012, 10:20:58 PM
See, the chunky helmet/uniform design works.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 February, 2012, 10:29:57 PM
Now that's a thing of dark beauty!

The only trouble is I want more!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 February, 2012, 10:34:50 PM
And who said the helmets didn't look right? Duh!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 February, 2012, 01:19:23 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 February, 2012, 10:20:58 PM
See, the chunky helmet/uniform design works.

Too early to tell from that IMHO - although it looks promising.

a) it's not Urban wearing the helmet - from the empire stills it looked like Lex(?) seemed to fill the helmet better.

b) It's a blurry dark animated gif, you can't see much more than a tiny bit of head and shoulders...

More interested in what's going on behind the scenes with this - whether it's being deliberately leaked by someone over the violence thing...

Considering 1 still and 1 bit of footage have both included headshots, it seems a bit like someone's trying to prove a point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 11 February, 2012, 01:38:53 AM
Interesting theory, that hadn't occurred to me. Maybe trying to gauge reaction?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 11 February, 2012, 02:17:42 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 11 February, 2012, 01:19:23 AM


Considering 1 still and 1 bit of footage have both included headshots, it seems a bit like someone's trying to prove a point.

This occurred to me too, its all very convenient. But if whoever the leak is really wanted to do something about the reaction about the helmet, they should have found a clip with Dredd in it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 11 February, 2012, 02:23:24 AM
I do think the helmets work though. Just as much as a London copper's hat works if that's any comparison.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 11 February, 2012, 04:29:07 AM
Quote from: radiator on 11 February, 2012, 01:38:53 AM
Interesting theory, that hadn't occurred to me. Maybe trying to gauge reaction?

I thought that about those pics released earlier this week, but also valid about this (AWESOME) bit of footage; dark, gritty, noirish, and unapologetically grim and violent... looks seriously fantastic and hardcore!  And judging by the general response from fellow posters here, both DNA Films and IM Global should be encouraged, I wonder if this bit of footage is a heads-up for an imminent teaser trailer...!?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 11 February, 2012, 04:39:42 AM
Quote from: Angry Vince on 09 February, 2012, 11:55:12 PM
Had a horrible thought - what is the bet that some wanker re-releases a certain movie from 1995 to cash on the publicity from Dredd?
<shudder>

Not if they finally release Danny Cannon's 'director's cut' version, for it does surely exist somewhere in the Buena Vista vaults, and would certainly shift a few copies on pure morbid interest alone... sadly unlikely though!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Radbacker on 11 February, 2012, 04:46:43 AM
Fraken Arsom, I like the small glimpse we have of MC1 in the background. Grey, opressive, monolithic public housing looking buildings all in keeping with the more realistic grittier approach they seem to have taken.  Cant wait to see more, teaser cant be too far away surely?

More please.

CU Radbacker
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 11 February, 2012, 12:02:30 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 11 February, 2012, 01:19:23 AM
More interested in what's going on behind the scenes with this - whether it's being deliberately leaked by someone over the violence thing...

Considering 1 still and 1 bit of footage have both included headshots, it seems a bit like someone's trying to prove a point.

what violence thing? is this referencing back to the 'my mate down the pub spoke to a magical dog who can travel through time that said that he's next door neighbours dog spoke to his owner whose mate read on a message board that someone wasn't happy with the violence thing'..actually thats not a bad idea for the 2000ad kids comic thread.. Time Traveling Toto and the Future Forum

anyway the source for the animated 'clip' i kinda thought it would have come from the 'making of' documentary.. as they are sometimes produced by outside companies and the security would not be as stringent
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 11 February, 2012, 12:30:59 PM
That's a reasonable assumption, but you're still just surmising like Toto down the pub and just adding to the rumours circulating. I think it's been leaked deliberately by someone involved with the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 01:01:55 PM
He blew his f##kin 'ed off man! BOOM!!! Just like that. No warnin. Nothin. Just BAM!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 February, 2012, 01:13:41 PM
Quote from: NSFTM on 11 February, 2012, 12:02:30 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 11 February, 2012, 01:19:23 AM
More interested in what's going on behind the scenes with this - whether it's being deliberately leaked by someone over the violence thing...

Considering 1 still and 1 bit of footage have both included headshots, it seems a bit like someone's trying to prove a point.

what violence thing? is this referencing back to the 'my mate down the pub spoke to a magical dog who can travel through time that said that he's next door neighbours dog spoke to his owner whose mate read on a message board that someone wasn't happy with the violence thing'..actually thats not a bad idea for the 2000ad kids comic thread.. Time Traveling Toto and the Future Forum

anyway the source for the animated 'clip' i kinda thought it would have come from the 'making of' documentary.. as they are sometimes produced by outside companies and the security would not be as stringent


Partially, but more snippets picked up from elsewhere and it just seeming a bit 'odd'.

Leaking footage from a 'making of' seems unlikely, without tacit approval from LG or DNA.

And why to some spanish celeb fan-site?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 11 February, 2012, 01:36:46 PM
Time to get Mulder and Scully in ...a conspiracy theory is emerging!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 February, 2012, 01:39:34 PM
Judge Dredd is a violent anti hero like Max in the Mad Max series of Films.

As I recall the DR3DD film was pitched as a jet black 18 certificate Movie about a future dystopia were only extreme Law enforcement methods can keep society in some sort of order. That means Adult themes and situations.

Now some rumours are circulating about it being too violent, too dark. Perhaps their thinking that they like what they've got but with a few adjustments they can pitch it too the 15+ crowd whose numbers are probably larger than the 18+ certificate the Film was originally made for. They make more money that way.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 01:44:21 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 February, 2012, 01:39:34 PM
Judge Dredd is a violent anti hero like Max in the Mad Max series of Films.


You mean Max is a violent anti-hero like Judge Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mogzilla on 11 February, 2012, 01:57:18 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 10 February, 2012, 12:41:42 PM
It's only really a spoiler if you've read the script. So surely drawing attention to the fact it's a spoiler merely increases the spoiling? I haven't read the script, so didn't know.
what he said...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SpetsnaZ99 on 11 February, 2012, 03:00:26 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 01:01:55 PM
He blew his f##kin 'ed off man! BOOM!!! Just like that. No warnin. Nothin. Just BAM!!

yeah, but, he was only supposed to blow the f##kin doors off
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 February, 2012, 03:13:29 PM
Maybe it was Stunning mode?




I'll get my coat.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 11 February, 2012, 03:21:24 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 February, 2012, 03:13:29 PM
Maybe it was Stunning mode?

He could have hit him with the butt for that. Definitely a case of cold blooded murder for kicks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 03:35:31 PM
Hope we get a bit of that, not so distant future Detroit City, Look and vibe for our new Mega City One. From that small clip and what we've been told about the graphic nature of the violence I'm hopin for a massive nod towards Verhoeven. 'Can you Fly Bobby'. Still great! Lol. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 11 February, 2012, 04:01:49 PM
There's a scene early in the leaked script that I interpreted as a direct homage to the first Robocop movie - [spoiler]Dredd shoots through an innocent bystander in order to kill a perp who is escaping into a crowd, then dispassionately informs the terrified victim that he aimed so as to miss any of their vital organs and an ambulance is on it's way.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 04:31:09 PM
Madame, you have suffered an emotional shock. I will notify a rape crisis center. Lol.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 04:37:26 PM
No point for spoiler tabs now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 February, 2012, 04:52:37 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 04:37:26 PM
No point for spoiler tabs now.

Yes cos some like me never read the script!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Darren Stephens on 11 February, 2012, 05:27:06 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 February, 2012, 04:52:37 PM
Yes cos some like me never read the script!

Me neither. I would rather avoid them, if possible thanks.  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 11 February, 2012, 05:39:03 PM
Quote from: Darren Stephens on 11 February, 2012, 05:27:06 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 February, 2012, 04:52:37 PM
Yes cos some like me never read the script!

Me neither. I would rather avoid them, if possible thanks.  ;)

Make that three of us..I started reading the beginning and then thought 'What Am I Doing!'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 11 February, 2012, 05:48:26 PM
If spoilers are to be discussed please let me know so I can leave this thread and never return  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 06:07:23 PM
Can't wait to see that bad boy 'Law Master' rippin up the 'Rockcrete' as Dredd floors it down the 'Skedway'. :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 06:20:01 PM
Ok but just don't spoil anymore spoilered quotes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 11 February, 2012, 06:25:36 PM
Quote from: radiator on 11 February, 2012, 04:01:49 PM
There's a scene early in the leaked script that I interpreted as a direct homage to the first Robocop movie - [spoiler]Dredd shoots through an innocent bystander in order to kill a perp who is escaping into a crowd, then dispassionately informs the terrified victim that he aimed so as to miss any of their vital organs and an ambulance is on it's way.[/spoiler]

Great stuff! That's just the sort of OTT, tongue placed firmly in cheek, Dredd/Mega City One we all know and love. It seems the film is staying close to the spirit of the comic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 February, 2012, 06:25:45 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 06:20:01 PM
Ok but just don't spoil anymore spoilered quotes.

Thank you  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 11 February, 2012, 07:19:18 PM
QuoteThat's just the sort of OTT, tongue placed firmly in cheek, Dredd/Mega City One we all know and love. It seems the film is staying close to the spirit of the comic.

Hard to say. From what I've seen/heard, it looks like the humour will be blacker and less whimsical than the comics - more Verhoeven than Wagner. There definitely is humour in the script, despite what many people say - but it's very dry and perhaps doesn't read that funny on the page - there's one or two scenes that should get a big laugh in the cinema provided they're handled well. I should stress again that I've only read the first 12 or so pages of the script so I'm speculating.

Dredd's dialogue - what I read of it - is spot on Wagner though; gruff, terse, cynical - note perfect. He sure as shit ain't gonna be getting all teared up in the locker room about his poor old bro - "I judged him"....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 07:31:39 PM
'Baby Dredd'. Lol. Diane Lane looks good in Lycra though. Word! lol.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 11 February, 2012, 07:48:42 PM
http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/footage3.gif

Don't know how to show it but here's what looks like some more footage.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 February, 2012, 07:50:55 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 07:31:39 PM
'Baby Dredd'. Lol. Diane Lane looks good in Lycra though. Word! lol.

What? You posts so strange messages today?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 February, 2012, 07:51:25 PM
Quote from: Zarjazzer on 11 February, 2012, 07:48:42 PM
http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/footage3.gif

Don't know how to show it but here's what looks like some more footage.

Fix it;

(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/footage3.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 February, 2012, 07:52:36 PM
Well done Goaty.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 February, 2012, 07:54:17 PM

That does looks like FX effect test work?

(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/footage3.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 February, 2012, 07:56:20 PM
Yeah I think it must be the compositor showing his work. You can see a  whitish line and some lights of a far off building pop up behind the store on the pictures right.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 11 February, 2012, 07:59:27 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 February, 2012, 07:54:17 PM

That does looks like FX effect test work?

(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/footage3.gif)

Cheers Goaty.  I can't tell if any of these Judges actually are Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 11 February, 2012, 08:00:35 PM
Knowing how Lionsgate operate, I'd say someone is going to be in some serious shit over this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 08:03:53 PM
Quote from: Zarjazzer on 11 February, 2012, 07:59:27 PMI can't tell if any of these Judges actually are Dredd.



Quite clear from the staging none of them are and definitely not the short one.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 February, 2012, 08:04:43 PM

As I was look at Karl Urban Spanish fan site, where the gifs from.
I found this, it is Ephraim Mwakandu - Compositor - Showreel, that where the first gif is from!!!!

http://vimeo.com/36139526 (http://vimeo.com/36139526) - you can see it at timeline 02:00.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 08:07:01 PM
There's some Mega City One chase stuff in this:


http://vimeo.com/36605186


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 11 February, 2012, 08:15:36 PM
Good find!!

Like the judges outside that building!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 11 February, 2012, 08:17:27 PM
Joes link has more!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 February, 2012, 08:18:05 PM
Good spot, Joe Soap.

From it all, it looks great!
So it wasn't leaked or something, that guy was used it for his FX Showreel, even the film not out yet! Silly mistake! BUT how would that Spanish fan site found it?? 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 08:19:34 PM
BOYYYY!!!! Doin It!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 08:21:29 PM
Get on that 'Smog' filled 'Ped Way'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 February, 2012, 08:22:16 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 08:21:29 PM
Get on that 'Smog' filled 'Ped Way'
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 08:19:34 PM
BOYYYY!!!! Doin It!

What?  :-*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 08:31:05 PM
F##K me!!! Underpass. Oversked!!! GONNA BE THE BOLLOCKS!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 08:42:34 PM
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/7310/medcentre.jpg)


(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8766/standi.jpg)


(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/7182/shotee.jpg)


(http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/3374/skedway.jpg)


(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/9867/chaseo.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 11 February, 2012, 08:44:18 PM
Great find Joe, what a Saturday night treat!  Lawmaster in action! The judges look great en masse, and that chase sequence looks like its going to be good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 11 February, 2012, 08:51:53 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 08:07:01 PM
There's some Mega City One chase stuff in this:


http://vimeo.com/36605186

Its so near future it could be next Tuesday, but yeah looking good none the less. Interesting choice of music - prophetic?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 11 February, 2012, 08:55:29 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 07:31:39 PM
'Baby Dredd'. Lol. Diane Lane looks good in Lycra though. Word! lol.

Mmmmm..... H-e-r-s-h-e-y...... L-y-c-r-a......
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 11 February, 2012, 09:01:24 PM
Subtle CGI,i like it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 February, 2012, 09:02:00 PM
I really wouldn't want to be in that guy's shoes...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 09:03:02 PM
I expect the video will be withdrawn soon, I know the 'stills' showreel was.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 11 February, 2012, 09:06:04 PM
Are these officially released publicity images?

If not the images should be in spoiler tags, please.  Some of us like surprises at the cinema.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 11 February, 2012, 09:08:46 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 11 February, 2012, 09:06:04 PM
Are these officially released publicity images?

If not the images should be in spoiler tags, please.  Some of us like surprises at the cinema.

I know nothing about the film other than a really rough idea of the plot..how you can glean anything from those shots is beyond me?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 February, 2012, 09:09:23 PM
No, they're images from a compositor's showreel who has broken a cardinal rule and put their work up for an unreleased film.

There's nothing particularly spoiler-y apart from the first one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 February, 2012, 09:10:02 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 11 February, 2012, 09:06:04 PM
Are these officially released publicity images?

If not the images should be in spoiler tags, please.  Some of us like surprises at the cinema.

You cant cover the images with spoiler tags. If you dont like, dont look at this thread.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 09:10:08 PM
I wouldn't consider the images any more as spoilers than the other pictures released. Nothing since the Empire pictures have been official. Story details are spoilers. These still grabs don't really give much of a hint to the plot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 February, 2012, 09:16:59 PM
I've just found the official teaser poster  :o

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/2000ad%20Sites/P1290569.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 11 February, 2012, 09:19:11 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 February, 2012, 09:10:02 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 11 February, 2012, 09:06:04 PM
Are these officially released publicity images?

If not the images should be in spoiler tags, please.  Some of us like surprises at the cinema.

You cant cover the images with spoiler tags. If you dont like, dont look at this thread.

Telling someone not to look at a thread isn't a valid argument against spoilers.  Spoilers are bad netiquette, if a thread is FOR spoilers the title should say so, that way people can avoid the thread, and spoilers.

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 09:10:08 PM
I wouldn't consider the images any more as spoilers than the other pictures released. Nothing since the Empire pictures have been official. Story details are spoilers. These still grabs don't really give much of a hint to the plot.

Images are spoilers.  Showing what anything looks like when someone else doesn't know is showing them film content that they should first see in the cinema. Hence it could spoil the effect of the images on screen.

Quote from: Steve Green on 11 February, 2012, 09:09:23 PM
No, they're images from a compositor's showreel who has broken a cardinal rule and put their work up for an unreleased film.

There's nothing particularly spoiler-y apart from the first one.

Potentially ruining their career... silly person.

Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 February, 2012, 09:16:59 PM
I've just found the official teaser poster  :o


LMAO - Did Mrs CF take that...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: clavell on 11 February, 2012, 09:21:03 PM
There's not really any spoiler material in the showreel clips - which are SO GOOD - except the headshot one, but that's not really giving anything away.

- C
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 February, 2012, 09:22:08 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 11 February, 2012, 09:19:11 PM
LMAO - Did Mrs CF take that...?

Yes I forced her to do it  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 09:23:38 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 11 February, 2012, 09:19:11 PM

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 09:10:08 PM
I wouldn't consider the images any more as spoilers than the other pictures released. Nothing since the Empire pictures have been official. Story details are spoilers. These still grabs don't really give much of a hint to the plot.

Images are spoilers.  Showing what anything looks like when someone else doesn't know is showing them film content that they should first see in the cinema. Hence it could spoil the effect of the images on screen.



Well then you really shouldn't look at this thread or any promotional material/press photography of any scenes, which you've all ready seen, cos this is where images -not script details- will be and have been presented. I don't believe anything I've posted has had any character/plot spoilers.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 09:25:38 PM
The Bat King surely can't see too well anyway?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 09:27:53 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 February, 2012, 09:16:59 PM
I've just found the official teaser poster  :o



We all know Dredd doesn't shower, he bathes...



(http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr83/monkeyrobot01/Joe%20Dredd%20at%20Tumblr/0626-JimBaikie-IntheBath.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 February, 2012, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 09:25:38 PM
The Bat King surely can't see too well anyway?

Good material for my SillyWorld!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 11 February, 2012, 09:30:19 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 09:23:38 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 11 February, 2012, 09:19:11 PM

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 09:10:08 PM
I wouldn't consider the images any more as spoilers than the other pictures released. Nothing since the Empire pictures have been official. Story details are spoilers. These still grabs don't really give much of a hint to the plot.

Images are spoilers.  Showing what anything looks like when someone else doesn't know is showing them film content that they should first see in the cinema. Hence it could spoil the effect of the images on screen.



Well then you really shouldn't look at this thread or any promotional material/press photography of any scenes, which you've all ready seen, cos this is where images -not script details- will be and have been presented. I don't believe anything I've posted has had any character/plot spoilers.

Promotional material is a minor issue, I do indeed avoid a lot of that. But sharing official images is only sharing what someone might ordinarily come across, for example in WHSmiths or at the sceening of another film.

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 09:25:38 PM

The Bat King surely can't see too well anyway?

Digitally enhanced visual display unit.  It makes things much clearer.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 11 February, 2012, 09:32:08 PM
I do believe you are wrong Joe.
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff200/vzzbuxblx/face010a.jpg)




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 11 February, 2012, 09:34:38 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 February, 2012, 09:16:59 PM
I've just found the official teaser poster  :o
Image snipped for my sanity.

OH MY EYES! MY FUCKING EYES!

Cheers, CF, but some of us do have to sleep tonight you know! And no, we DO NOT want to see the rest of that particular series, however many she took. Oh Grud, has anyone got any bleach I can rub into my eyes?

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 February, 2012, 09:34:49 PM
Don't encourage CF to recreate that strip...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 11 February, 2012, 09:40:27 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 11 February, 2012, 09:34:49 PM
Don't encourage CF to recreate that strip...

CF..taking cosplay to a whole new level..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 09:43:50 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 11 February, 2012, 09:30:19 PMPromotional material is a minor issue, I do indeed avoid a lot of that. But sharing official images is only sharing what someone might ordinarily come across, for example in WHSmiths or at the sceening of another film.

Cluthing at straws.

You're not convincing me that I've posted anything that would spoil the film in accordance within the degrees of promotional material. If you can glean the content of what's going on in those images, you've a talent that is needed elsewhere. This thread has over 60 pages discussing this stuff, it's a bit late in the day for complaining.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 09:51:41 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 11 February, 2012, 09:32:08 PM
I do believe you are wrong Joe.
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff200/vzzbuxblx/face010a.jpg)



Sorry Vizzy but we all know that's a non-Wagner Dredd (Alan Grant -The ballad of Devil Angel) therefore is non-canonical.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 10:12:27 PM
So F##Kin GAY!! . Think Dredd would  rather be bummed than be the 'Bum' ed.IMO.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 10:14:02 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 10:12:27 PM
So F##Kin GAY!!


No you are.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 10:16:46 PM
True Dat! I'm cool with it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 10:18:40 PM
The resident tea-bagger will be round later to chastise you.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 10:22:12 PM
Who be the 'Tea bagger'? And how the flip u know wat 'T baggin' B!!! Lol ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 February, 2012, 10:24:12 PM
More sexy Mega-City footage! Hubba, hubba!

And no, that wasn't directed at you Burdis!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 February, 2012, 10:24:27 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 10:22:12 PM
Who be the 'Tea bagger'? And how the flip u know wat 'T baggin' B!!! Lol ;)

Eh? What drug are you on?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 11 February, 2012, 10:25:37 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 10:22:12 PM
Who be the 'Tea bagger'? And how the flip u know wat 'T baggin' B!!! Lol ;)
:lol:
That blokes a nutter.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 10:31:44 PM
Gin+ Juice and high grade weed!! The stuff u get from Moss Side. Claremont Rd. Brapp, Brapp. Lol. x
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 11 February, 2012, 10:34:37 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 10:31:44 PM
Gin+ Juice and high grade weed!! The stuff u get from Moss Side. Claremont Rd. Brapp, Brapp. Lol. x
:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 11 February, 2012, 10:37:29 PM
QuoteBrapp, Brapp

That is a bad case of wind you have there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 11 February, 2012, 10:46:00 PM
It B the stuff! High Grade! Offa  my mate CoCo. I'm Rick James Bitch!!! Lol
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 11 February, 2012, 11:02:07 PM
Quote from: radiator on 11 February, 2012, 07:19:18 PM
QuoteThat's just the sort of OTT, tongue placed firmly in cheek, Dredd/Mega City One we all know and love. It seems the film is staying close to the spirit of the comic.

Hard to say. From what I've seen/heard, it looks like the humour will be blacker and less whimsical than the comics - more Verhoeven than Wagner. There definitely is humour in the script, despite what many people say - but it's very dry and perhaps doesn't read that funny on the page - there's one or two scenes that should get a big laugh in the cinema provided they're handled well. I should stress again that I've only read the first 12 or so pages of the script so I'm speculating.

Dredd's dialogue - what I read of it - is spot on Wagner though; gruff, terse, cynical - note perfect. He sure as shit ain't gonna be getting all teared up in the locker room about his poor old bro - "I judged him"....

I see what you mean looking at these latest leaks, mean as hell and looking short on humour. Must say, you expect some gallows humour with Dredd.

I hope no heads will roll over these exclusives because it's wetting my appetite for the film. Don't know what people are complaining about, these little tidbits don't give much away, if anything they're making us more uncertain what to expect.

Bigjobs, I think Roger's the teabagger.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 11:06:57 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 11 February, 2012, 11:02:07 PMBigjobs, I think Roger's the teabagger.


Rog may like a good face-brew now'n then but he's not the tea-bagger, different context.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 11 February, 2012, 11:08:44 PM
Thanks Joe, I wouldn't know anyway. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 11 February, 2012, 11:16:29 PM
A huge part of me says I should be disappointed the vehicles look twenty years old for a story that's supposedly set in the near-future but it really is evoking the first Mad Max/Escape From New York for me and it all works in my head when I think about it. Great stuff. Going to be a real interesting take on Dredd. Might be too stripped-down for the die-hard fans.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 11 February, 2012, 11:25:09 PM
Who knows? We haven't seen enough to make any final "judgements". It looks like it may be a film that could capture the current zietgeist.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 February, 2012, 11:25:51 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 11 February, 2012, 11:16:29 PM
A huge part of me says I should be disappointed the vehicles look twenty years old for a story that's supposedly set in the near-future but it really is evoking the first Mad Max/Escape From New York for me and it all works in my head when I think about it. Great stuff. Going to be a real interesting take on Dredd. Might be too stripped-down for the die-hard fans.

Well I consider myself a die-hard fan and what I've seen so far looks fookin' great!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 11:29:30 PM
Once justice is being done any misgivings will soon be washed away. It looks future and utilitarian enough  for me.

On a side note, the 1981 novelisation of Escape from New York has a bit of backstory that's very reminiscent of the Judges and their takeover. In it the USPF (United States Police Force) assume control of America after economic collapse and WWIII. With so much crime and little money, the country didn't have the machinery to deal with a legal system. There are no more trials and they have the power of Judge, Jury & Executioner.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 11 February, 2012, 11:32:17 PM
Does this make them fascists?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 11:34:35 PM
They still have elections but when did that ever matter.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 11 February, 2012, 11:44:06 PM
Just to be clear: I'm not bagging on anything we've seen so far. Apologies if that's how my post read. On the contrary, I love the choices they've made so far. Seeing a glimpse of the lawmaster in that chase clip gave me goosebumps. Very excited to see how this turns out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 11 February, 2012, 11:46:47 PM
Could be a spoiler in that .GIF

[spoiler]Isn't the Death sentence mainly reserved for Judge killers? The summary execution shown could be that sentence being carried out. Is yer man a Judge killer?[/spoiler]

It depends on how faithful they're being to the Dreddverse legal system.

Regardless, it looks pretty sweet, the most exciting titbit I've seen so far.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 11 February, 2012, 11:48:15 PM
Don't worry, only another 7 months to wait blackmocco then all our doubts will be gone...erm.. are we gonna see any aliens or spacecraft in the film? What about droids?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 11:49:51 PM
Nope, why would the complicate it aliens?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 11:50:46 PM
At least the Lawmasters can turn corners this time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 11:51:33 PM
Post above should read: Nope, why would they complicate it with aliens?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 11 February, 2012, 11:51:48 PM
No aliens? no droids? c'mon this is Dredd. There must at least be some mutants in it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 11:52:42 PM
Quote from: pops1983 on 11 February, 2012, 11:46:47 PMIt depends on how faithful they're being to the Dreddverse legal system.



If they aren't what would be the point?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 11 February, 2012, 11:52:51 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 11 February, 2012, 11:48:15 PM
Don't worry, only another 7 months to wait blackmocco then all our doubts will be gone...erm.. are we gonna see any aliens or spacecraft in the film? What about droids?

They're saving that for the sequel ;-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 11 February, 2012, 11:53:20 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 11 February, 2012, 11:51:48 PM
No aliens? no droids? c'mon this is Dredd. There must at least be some mutants in it?

[spoiler]Anderson is a mutant in the movie.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 11 February, 2012, 11:54:51 PM
Quote from: pops1983 on 11 February, 2012, 11:46:47 PM
Could be a spoiler in that .GIF

[spoiler]Isn't the Death sentence mainly reserved for Judge killers? The summary execution shown could be that sentence being carried out. Is yer man a Judge killer?[/spoiler]

It depends on how faithful they're being to the Dreddverse legal system.

Regardless, it looks pretty sweet, the most exciting titbit I've seen so far.

[spoiler]I think these are rogue Judges, so they are acting above whatever law is in place in the movie setting.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 11:54:53 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 11 February, 2012, 11:51:48 PM
No aliens? no droids? c'mon this is Dredd. There must at least be some mutants in it?


This film isn't about those things. They aren't making that type of Dredd. It's exclusively about the job. The Cursed Earth is mentioned but not delved into. [spoiler]Anderson is a mutant if you like[/spoiler].
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 11 February, 2012, 11:58:31 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 11 February, 2012, 11:53:20 PM

[spoiler]Anderson is a mutant in the movie.[/spoiler]
That don't count!  :lol: I meant some real freaks. [spoiler]like Roger.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 12 February, 2012, 01:53:04 AM
As long as it feels like Dredd, I don't really care if we're looking at a film that could be set in the 2100s, or 2030, or, like Children of Men, a brutal near future. It's an adaptation of Dredd. On those shots, MC-1 looks horrible—an absolute shit-hole. There's a real 'on the brink' vibe coming off the snippets we've seen, which I'm really intrigued to see as a film. That certainly beats the '90s gloss of the last one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 12 February, 2012, 02:01:19 AM
More footage on Bleeding Cool, including some audio (and terrible music)!

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/02/11/more-dredd-footage-shows-fx-beforeandafter (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/02/11/more-dredd-footage-shows-fx-beforeandafter)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 02:09:33 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 12 February, 2012, 02:01:19 AM
More footage on Bleeding Cool, including some audio (and terrible music)!




This has all ready been posted from the original FX showreel. You're linking to a Scojo version there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 12 February, 2012, 02:18:57 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 February, 2012, 11:54:53 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 11 February, 2012, 11:51:48 PM
No aliens? no droids? c'mon this is Dredd. There must at least be some mutants in it?


This film isn't about those things. They aren't making that type of Dredd. It's exclusively about the job. The Cursed Earth is mentioned but not delved into. [spoiler]Anderson is a mutant if you like[/spoiler].

Quite so. We don't need a film about mutants and aliens. Most Dredd stories aren't about either. A Judge and a few perps is a better way to go.

No Dark Judges required either.

Sequels can give us those things if this film brings in enough.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 12 February, 2012, 03:07:02 AM
What an interesting few days its been, can't believe the amount of stuff slipping through, beginning to think that the September release is too far away. I suspected it was going to be near future and to be honest, it worls for me, going by the chase footage, the skyline is'nt as crowded with grim slum blocks as I thought it would be. Anyway, it's looking good so far.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 12 February, 2012, 03:08:41 AM
It is a shotty of sorts..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 03:34:30 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 12 February, 2012, 03:07:02 AM
going by the chase footage, the skyline is'nt as crowded with grim slum blocks as I thought it would be.


It's 3 seconds of one shot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 12 February, 2012, 03:38:35 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 03:34:30 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 12 February, 2012, 03:07:02 AM
going by the chase footage, the skyline is'nt as crowded with grim slum blocks as I thought it would be.


It's 3 seconds of one shot.

Well, if you believe some people that's enough to prove that the film's shit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 12 February, 2012, 03:51:38 AM
The aintitcoolnews brigade are on top form with this footage, as usual. Arseholes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 12 February, 2012, 04:29:21 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 12 February, 2012, 01:53:04 AM
As long as it feels like Dredd, I don't really care if we're looking at a film that could be set in the 2100s, or 2030, or, like Children of Men, a brutal near future. It's an adaptation of Dredd. On those shots, MC-1 looks horrible—an absolute shit-hole. There's a real 'on the brink' vibe coming off the snippets we've seen, which I'm really intrigued to see as a film. That certainly beats the '90s gloss of the last one.

Too right, I do love that Children of Men comparison (one of the finest and most original recent sci-fi outings), didn't someone on here mention a while back about knowing some guy who did matte work on Dredd, and they described what they saw of the film as "RoboCop meets Children of Men", or something similar, which certainly bears out in the leaked footage (somewhere, an IM Global and/or Lionsgate official is going ABSOLUTELY BALLISTIC) we've seen thus far... one thing though, where's the Lawmaster in that chase shot, it must be me, I can't quite make it out :-[ !?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 12 February, 2012, 04:36:34 AM
You can't see anything of it, just a brief shape turning into the alley behind the van...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 12 February, 2012, 04:40:16 AM
Yup, there it is, gotcha... and I think the footage of the multiple Judges walking through an entrance is [spoiler]the corrupt Judges arriving at the Peach Trees Block[/spoiler], could be wrong though...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 12 February, 2012, 04:42:55 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 12 February, 2012, 04:29:21 AMsomewhere, an IM Global and/or Lionsgate official is going ABSOLUTELY BALLISTIC)

Yeah..  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 12 February, 2012, 04:53:41 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 12 February, 2012, 03:51:38 AM
The aintitcoolnews brigade are on top form with this footage, as usual. Arseholes.

Nothing out of the ordinary there then!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 12 February, 2012, 07:57:36 AM
That's true. I'll just have to resolve myself to not seeing "The Stupid Gun" in this version of Dredd.
So apart from weaponry and uniform, and Anderson's psi powers, what other science fiction elements can we expect?
I mean, finding out someone's full identity details and movements via technology is no longer the stuff of SF writers imaginations is it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 12 February, 2012, 08:04:36 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 12 February, 2012, 03:38:35 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 03:34:30 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 12 February, 2012, 03:07:02 AM
going by the chase footage, the skyline is'nt as crowded with grim slum blocks as I thought it would be.


It's 3 seconds of one shot.

Well, if you believe some people that's enough to prove that the film's shit.
My point would be depending if they are going for a heavily populated city and space is at a premium, the skyline would be thick and obscured with buildings. I'd imagine there would be little or sky to see.
Look Soap, everyone is analysing the shots to see where the film is going and obviously still very early in terms of FX and maybe the movie makers take on Mega City One is different to what I'm expecting. (I've avoided reading the script).
Sady Michael, that's from what I'm picking up from other news sites not helped by our so called
"Dredd fan :p" spreading his hate campaign and fuelling the negativity.
The real fans and myself here are now 100% behind the movie, there maybe some minor niggles from some  but the majority are generally behind it. It's however the people who don't or barely know the Dredd property are the danger. Their negativity is being driven from the so called "Dredd fans" repersenting us and validating their opinions that the movie is shit straight up.
I think the van/bike scene is very Batman Begins to me for some reason but that's just me, the style or something, can't put my finger on it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 12 February, 2012, 08:16:54 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 12 February, 2012, 03:38:35 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 03:34:30 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 12 February, 2012, 03:07:02 AM
going by the chase footage, the skyline is'nt as crowded with grim slum blocks as I thought it would be.


It's 3 seconds of one shot.

Well, if you believe some people that's enough to prove that the film's shit.

I was going to comment on this exchange- but I see SneakeeX has beaten me to it. Joe- you are so bloody spikey about any and all perceived criticism, it's becoming annoying. Even if SneakeeX had inferred some criticism in his post, rather than merely mentioning it as a valid point- why do you feel the need to immediately jump in with one of your one line putdowns? Some people aren't going to like what they see here. I don't. I think the whole thing- from the leaked script to the uniforms, to the tone we're seeing in these clips, to the 70s Starskey & Hutch vibe of that car chase looks absolutely crap. And I can't believe you're forcing me to make that obvious- I'd long ago decided not to put any criticism on this thread, preferring instead to just not go to see the bloody thing, and wait til it's three quid in a bargain bin. But there you go- this is as far removed from any Dredd I recognise or like as to look like it might as well be an Asylum knock off.

So now you can direct your ire at me, rather than people who just pop up with reasonable observations based on their perception of the clips, and don't meet your high standard of film theory and production knowledge.

And that's my last fucking post in this thread, and my last word on a movie I doubt I'll ever see.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Devons Daddy on 12 February, 2012, 08:22:04 AM
BOARD this is when we must stand united.
POSITIVE COMMENTS, PUSHING ON EVERY SOCAIL MEDIA SITE.

we need to support the team here, if we can offer a small groundswell of positive attitude to this OUR MOVIE!!(as we are with Judge Minty) then that can only help it be a success.

we have such a scope between us.If we push it can grow and 2000ad,Rebellion and the team whom have entertained us for so many years will reap their rewards and we will be secure for another 35 years.

my stand. THIS IS A MEGA-NIFCENT MOVIE.
on every site i play, i will say so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 12 February, 2012, 08:30:21 AM
I gotta say I feel a little disappointed the Mega-City One skyline isn't filled with high-rise blocks, there seems to be an awful lot of empty sky there for an overpopulated futuristic metropolis :-\... holding out hope that's not a finished shot, but if it is, that's one thing I could nitpick compared to everything else we've seen so far that's absolutely bang-on, it'll all look amazing in high-definition regardless, though... and I agree, LET'S STAY POSITIVE people, we can exchange individual opinions and POV's, but let's not bash what a lot of people have worked darn hard to create before we see the final product, all together now - :D - that's better!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 12 February, 2012, 08:43:54 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 12 February, 2012, 08:16:54 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 12 February, 2012, 03:38:35 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 03:34:30 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 12 February, 2012, 03:07:02 AM
going by the chase footage, the skyline is'nt as crowded with grim slum blocks as I thought it would be.


It's 3 seconds of one shot.

Well, if you believe some people that's enough to prove that the film's shit.

I was going to comment on this exchange- but I see SneakeeX has beaten me to it. Joe- you are so bloody spikey about any and all perceived criticism, it's becoming annoying. Even if SneakeeX had inferred some criticism in his post, rather than merely mentioning it as a valid point- why do you feel the need to immediately jump in with one of your one line putdowns? Some people aren't going to like what they see here. I don't. I think the whole thing- from the leaked script to the uniforms, to the tone we're seeing in these clips, to the 70s Starskey & Hutch vibe of that car chase looks absolutely crap. And I can't believe you're forcing me to make that obvious- I'd long ago decided not to put any criticism on this thread, preferring instead to just not go to see the bloody thing, and wait til it's three quid in a bargain bin. But there you go- this is as far removed from any Dredd I recognise or like as to look like it might as well be an Asylum knock off.

So now you can direct your ire at me, rather than people who just pop up with reasonable observations based on their perception of the clips, and don't meet your high standard of film theory and production knowledge.

And that's my last fucking post in this thread, and my last word on a movie I doubt I'll ever see.

SBT

I mean no offence when I say this SBT

But talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face

I just can't get my head round the fact that anyone who has a close affiliation with Dredd like every one of us on this board obviously does..would not be 100% behind this movie..or for that matter..anything 2000ad related/endorsed

I find it frankly mind boggling that you don't put your weight of support behind it..so what if it's not your vision of Dredd..you're that way off missing the point it's shocking
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 12 February, 2012, 08:54:40 AM
Blimey, I've just been to aintitcool, what a bunch of clever people they are! To know so much about a film from 27 seconds of unfinished footage is amazing!

I stupidly then went to land of he-who-shall-not-be-named who, last night had a 'nerdgasm' over the footage, but this morning has posted THREE threads and 11 posts about how shit the film will be and how unfair the world is because Dredd is chasing a van.

Why do I do this to myself?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DrJomster on 12 February, 2012, 09:20:56 AM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 12 February, 2012, 08:54:40 AM
Why do I do this to myself?

To make us smile? :)

Am SO going to see this film, btw. Surprise, eh?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Waltev on 12 February, 2012, 09:23:14 AM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 12 February, 2012, 08:54:40 AM
I stupidly then went to land of he-who-shall-not-be-named who, last night had a 'nerdgasm' over the footage,

What land might that be - I'm in the mood for some amusement...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 12 February, 2012, 09:43:39 AM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 12 February, 2012, 08:54:40 AM
Blimey, I've just been to aintitcool, what a bunch of clever people they are! To know so much about a film from 27 seconds of unfinished footage is amazing!

I stupidly then went to land of he-who-shall-not-be-named who, last night had a 'nerdgasm' over the footage, but this morning has posted THREE threads and 11 posts about how shit the film will be and how unfair the world is because Dredd is chasing a van.

Why do I do this to myself?
Sadomasochism I belive is the term.....  :lol:
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 12 February, 2012, 08:16:54 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 12 February, 2012, 03:38:35 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 03:34:30 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 12 February, 2012, 03:07:02 AM
going by the chase footage, the skyline is'nt as crowded with grim slum blocks as I thought it would be.


It's 3 seconds of one shot.

Well, if you believe some people that's enough to prove that the film's shit.

I was going to comment on this exchange- but I see SneakeeX has beaten me to it. Joe- you are so bloody spikey about any and all perceived criticism, it's becoming annoying. Even if SneakeeX had inferred some criticism in his post, rather than merely mentioning it as a valid point- why do you feel the need to immediately jump in with one of your one line putdowns? Some people aren't going to like what they see here. I don't. I think the whole thing- from the leaked script to the uniforms, to the tone we're seeing in these clips, to the 70s Starskey & Hutch vibe of that car chase looks absolutely crap. And I can't believe you're forcing me to make that obvious- I'd long ago decided not to put any criticism on this thread, preferring instead to just not go to see the bloody thing, and wait til it's three quid in a bargain bin. But there you go- this is as far removed from any Dredd I recognise or like as to look like it might as well be an Asylum knock off.

So now you can direct your ire at me, rather than people who just pop up with reasonable observations based on their perception of the clips, and don't meet your high standard of film theory and production knowledge.

And that's my last fucking post in this thread, and my last word on a movie I doubt I'll ever see.

SBT
While I wouldn't support SBT's view completely, this is forum for open discussion and including critism of the movie. I believe what I said was more observation related rather than critical and was pretty valid.
Look at the end of the day, this is what makes the forum here great is everyone's opinion is respected as long as its backed up with reason. This movie may not be to everyone's liking.
I think the fan reaction has been very positive, it's the general public that has me really worried.  :-\

Just in a barely related note regarding Armande Assante who presented an IFTA award last night.

[urlhttp://www.irishfilmboard.ie/irish_film_industry/news/?id=1855][/url]
QuotePresenting another top IFTA at the 2012 Awards is four-time Golden Globe nominated and Primetime Emmy winning actor Armand Assante, who is known for his portrayal of a chilling mafia don in the 1996 classic Gotti; his starring turn in sci-fi feature film Judge Dredd alongside Sly Stallone; and his performance in Ridley Scott's award winning crime feature American Gangster.  Assante is an Irish/American actor whose late mother's family came from Co. Cork. Speaking about his visit to Ireland Armand said

"My Mother's family hails from County Cork and she came from a large family that mostly still reside in New York. The fact that she just passed away just a few months ago at 90 makes this trip to Ireland very personal for me, in fact I am wondering if she arranged for me to be there, as she absolutely was mad for Ireland and had very deep and lasting relationships with her friends from there."


Didn't realise his half Cork boi! He's a pure feen yu kno! Thas Cork speak like if youre wunderin'.   :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 12 February, 2012, 09:50:42 AM
Here you go Waltev, prepare to be bemused:

https://groups.google.com/group/alt.comics.2000ad/topics?hl=en (https://groups.google.com/group/alt.comics.2000ad/topics?hl=en)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 12 February, 2012, 09:56:10 AM
At least twatto is right about one thing. He does need a life.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 10:23:34 AM
I don't have a problem with the night-time shots, but from what I've seen the daytime lawmaster chase is a missed opportunity IMHO.

I've skimmed the script, and that sounded grander in scale than what's depicted here.

I wasn't expecting anything even close to the comic Megacity, but sticking a couple of high-rises in the background with plenty of sky visible isn't really selling the overcrowded warzone look.

It needs a couple more layers of flyovers, and hardly any sky.

I'm guessing they didn't have the choice to shoot it at night either? Even that would have made a big difference.

Still, the judges en-masse look pretty good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 10:24:55 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 12 February, 2012, 08:16:54 AM

So now you can direct your ire at me, rather than people who just pop up with reasonable observations based on their perception of the clips, and don't meet your high standard of film theory and production knowledge.

I was merely pointing out that it's one shot: It's 3 seconds of one shot. One shot that's unfinished.

I think my observation is reasonable when looking at something that's not intended for the general public or even finished to any degree, this has clearly been pointed out before, nothing's official.


Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 12 February, 2012, 08:16:54 AM
And that's my last fucking post in this thread, and my last word on a movie I doubt I'll ever see.

There's more ire in that statement than even I could muster for anyone. I don't really see the point in letting us all know how you don't post on a thread for a film you think is crap and clearly have every intention of hating and then tell us how you're running away in a huff about it. Not that I can't say it's nice knowing how you really feel about it but you can come back.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 12 February, 2012, 10:31:16 AM
Looks to me like just the start of the chase scene. Bet it rocks once it gets goin. keep sayin this but lovin that whole gritty Verhoeven 8O's vibe which I'm hope runs through the whole film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Darren Stephens on 12 February, 2012, 11:04:24 AM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 12 February, 2012, 10:31:16 AM
Looks to me like just the start of the chase scene. Bet it rocks once it gets goin. keep sayin this but lovin that whole gritty Verhoeven 8O's vibe which I'm hope runs through the whole film.
Yessirree!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 12 February, 2012, 11:08:35 AM
True Dat!!! Lol.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 12 February, 2012, 11:22:02 AM
It's not surprising that Joe Soap and SBT would have vastly different opinions on the film, since they are probably two of our most knowledgeable and sophisticated cineastes.  But it would be unfortunate if either took umbrage at the other's contributions.  I don't see anything unreasonable in Joe's measured observations on the tiny amount of footage and imagery we have to date (I also have no doubt that if the film fails to deliver Joe will rip the guts out of it), and I don't see anything unreasonable in Steev's instant dislike of the style and tone that the material seen so far conveys.

My only real interest in a film adaptation is how it plays into the fortunes of Rebellion and 2000AD - as a reader I care about the comic's future a lot , it turns out, but as a viewer a Dredd film is just (hopefully) a bit of fun.

Anyway, on the subject of citi-blocks, the visibly high density of MC-1 had never squared with its vast area (even when trimmed of the southern sectors, as many a Space Maths thread has attested.  If you're going to have huge self-contained blocks, they are going to be well spaced, or clustered with lots of space between clusters.  I'd imagine that space would largely be filled with low-rise urban wasteland (where not used for necessary support services and industry) - a concreted-over New York doesn't make any sense either. 

So if you are going the 'realistic' route, as this adaptation clearly is, a truly crazy packed skyline would mean a much smaller Tokyo/Manhattan/Hong Kong MC-1.  A grim sprawl interspersed with towering residential blocks to accommodate the influx and increase of the post-apocalyptic population makes good visual sense (and it looks like Cam Kennedy's city to me too, so that gets three thumbs up here).  It also allows the movie exteriors to be shot in real-world locations with lightly composited background, which is what makes it feasible at all.

That isn't to say that I wouldn't much rather see a zany high-tech illogical alien-rich MC-1, but that clearly wasn't going to happen - the Stallone abomination was what happened when they employed a budget that would allow something close to that, and I wouldn't personally be troubling the box office if that was what was coming.   
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 12 February, 2012, 11:25:32 AM
Got to say it is a shame to see people actually arguing on the board. People's opinions differ, that is a simple fact of life. Sine 2000ad fans wI'll love this film and some won't.

Given the Stallone debacle I can't blame anyone for feeling nervous about this one.

I am nervous, but nervous excited. Station's film didn't,t do that for me. I didn't like the publicity & I didn't go see it. When I watched it on tv I gave it every chance, watched open minded. It stank (as a Dredd film). Some people like that film, some big Dredd fans.

My friends are enjoying ribbing me about the upcoming film. Saying everything they know wI'll get a reaction. I can shout n Abel n sulk with my friends because we have been friends so long. We don't only have text to go by when reacting to what someone has said. I will have to ensure if they go to the cinema with me that one of them isn't next to me or he'll pass comment under his breath just to annoy me.

But that is friends. People I know from years of shared lifetime experience. People my kids see as family, they are closer to one than they are to my brother.

This is a forum of people that like the sane comic. We don't all know each other, though some if you do obviously know some better than others and sine have met up (it seems in some cases many times). This should be a place for sharing enjoyment, not breeding discord.

And I am sick of hearing about someone not in thud board and how it is great he isn't here. Seems he has won if he gets so much inchage in print.

Anyway. I am nervously positive about this film. I will be at first showing locally if possible. I think I would rather see 2d first, nit bug in 3d now I have seen a few. Probably it wI'll only be in 3d on day one, that is what my local cinema usually do. Either way, day one I plan to be there and I hope to come out having enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 12 February, 2012, 11:33:07 AM
 I'm gonna go all out.IMAX. Manchester. Slap bang in the middle but right @ the back in those posh seats. A little bit pissed and a little bit high and yeah, in 3D. (Not a big fan but It's filmed in it, soooo). :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 12 February, 2012, 11:36:26 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 12 February, 2012, 01:53:04 AM
As long as it feels like Dredd, I don't really care if we're looking at a film that could be set in the 2100s, or 2030, or, like Children of Men, a brutal near future. It's an adaptation of Dredd. On those shots, MC-1 looks horrible—an absolute shit-hole. There's a real 'on the brink' vibe coming off the snippets we've seen, which I'm really intrigued to see as a film. That certainly beats the '90s gloss of the last one.

My perception of Mega-City One has always been of a gargantuan insane asylum run by lunatics. A place exotic and dangerous as a tropical rainforest. This looks, so far, more like 1984, with a subdued terrorized population living in a squalid enviroment being ruled over by government thugs.

As Joe has pointed out already, and I'll reiterate, it's 3 seconds of one shot. Not much to make judgements on. Even so, it seems to be a film that's coming out of Bagdhad or Afghanistan, and it fits with the current economic disaster as well. So if the film makers are trying to tap into this it looks like they have succeeded.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 12 February, 2012, 11:46:10 AM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 12 February, 2012, 11:33:07 AM
I'm gonna go all out.IMAX. Manchester. Slap bang in the middle but right @ the back in those posh seats. A little bit pissed and a little bit high and yeah, in 3D. (Not a big fan but It's filmed in it, soooo). :thumbsup:

I hadn't even considered our local Imax might be showing it...

Now I gotta wait to find out!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 12 February, 2012, 11:52:42 AM
Not entirely sure it'll been shown on the one in Manchester? But if it is, that's how I'm gonna see it.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 12 February, 2012, 12:05:03 PM
You can see 3D in I-MAX ? I thought it was one or the other?
Myself  2D at the digital screen in Mannys Filmworks,won't be pissed though ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 12 February, 2012, 12:11:21 PM
Regarding the 20th century van in the chase clip-perhaps it's a stand in van,pre-fx,much like the motorcycles in this behind the scenes clip from Terminator Salvation`?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjrbYD32toM
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 12:12:01 PM
No, you can have both, but IMAX is a bit of vague term anyway.

A lot of IMAX showings are just blown up to fill the screen, not filmed in IMAX. Exceptions to this are segments of The Dark Knight and Mission Impossible : Ghost Protocol

Dredd wasn't filmed in IMAX, so it will just be a larger screen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 12:14:46 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 12 February, 2012, 12:11:21 PM
Regarding the 20th century van in the chase clip-perhaps it's a stand in van,pre-fx,much like the motorcycles in this behind the scenes clip from Terminator Salvation`?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjrbYD32toM

No.

We've seen stills of Justice Dept vans, and they're contemporary.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 12:20:30 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 12 February, 2012, 11:25:32 AM
Got to say it is a shame to see people actually arguing on the board.


Don't think anyone was really arguing, SBT (a man I have never had anything against or dislike -apart from his SW prequel love- and still respect) seemed more to be off-loading some film hate since most of his post was directed at it rather than attacking me, whom seemed merely a pretextual opener to said rant. I just thought it was funny that he ran off in a huff with such zeal all the while telling us he was doing so. He likes a show.


I really don't think it's a bad thing to point out now and again, simply, that we aren't looking at even finished shots or even full sequences let alone scenes.


As to the look of the film if you really want to rationalise their direction:

If there was a large THERMONUCLEAR WAR things may well look this way in a very best case scenario. With half the world a nuclear wasteland, resources would be limited and hard to find, production/manufacturing would be utilitarian, regulated with a high incidence of re-using old tech/old factories. A war like that could easily set a resource strangled city-state/world back a century, especially when the remains of the US are packed into a handful of over-populated city-states on the brink of chaos. That's why it needs to be run by the Judges.

There wasn't a whole heap of mass, advanced tech-innovation/manufacturing between the fall of the Roman Empire and the Industrial Revolution and certainly not of the exponential degree since the discovery of oil. THERMONUCLEAR WAR could set the world back to a new middle-ages -which is what Dredd's world basically is- a world of walled/protected city-states ruled by an elite and very reminiscient of how cities were constructed/governed in the middle-ages.


Quote from: TordelBack on 12 February, 2012, 11:22:02 AM
(I also have no doubt that if the film fails to deliver Joe will rip the guts out of it)

Those knives are being beveled as we speak.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 12:26:17 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 12 February, 2012, 12:11:21 PM
Regarding the 20th century van in the chase clip-perhaps it's a stand in van,pre-fx,much like the motorcycles in this behind the scenes clip from Terminator Salvation`?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjrbYD32toM


As you can see in the T-S clip the bikes have FX/green tracking markers. There's nothing like that -at least visible- in the Dredd shots.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 12 February, 2012, 12:31:40 PM
Hmm...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 12 February, 2012, 12:32:12 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 12:12:01 PM
No, you can have both, but IMAX is a bit of vague term anyway.

A lot of IMAX showings are just blown up to fill the screen, not filmed in IMAX. Exceptions to this are segments of The Dark Knight and Mission Impossible : Ghost Protocol

Dredd wasn't filmed in IMAX, so it will just be a larger screen.
Ah,never knew that. Still going for the 2D though I think, imax almost square which i can't stand and 3D gives me a headache.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 12:50:06 PM
It depends on what's being shown - the main IMAX screens are square(ish) but unless the film has space to fill that, they'll usually show non-IMAX with space at the top and bottom.

I'm pretty sure the chain-IMAX screens are roughly 16:9 and they letterbox 2:35:1 films.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 12 February, 2012, 01:10:45 PM
TBH the IMAX screen at Manchesters filmworks didn't seem any larger than the digi screen when I watched Batman and Watchmen and I'm that age where i can be arsed going up 3 sets of stairs even if they are escalators.

2D with a bucket of Ben n Jerrys chocolate macadamia and I'm a happy bunny.

I will say though this is one of the few exceptions where I'm willing to see it twice in one day,IF it washes the Stallone stench from my Dredd memory banks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 12 February, 2012, 02:02:25 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 12:14:46 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 12 February, 2012, 12:11:21 PM
Regarding the 20th century van in the chase clip-perhaps it's a stand in van,pre-fx,much like the motorcycles in this behind the scenes clip from Terminator Salvation`?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjrbYD32toM

No.

We've seen stills of Justice Dept vans, and they're contemporary.

They were different again to that white van, though weren't they? I.e. they were contemporary, but I could just about buy them in a near future scenario, although a bit of add on stuff would help. They're suitably shiny and utilitarian and fit law-enforcement very well.

I'm largely optimistic about this film. I like the judge uniforms, and while I'd like to see a city sprawl something like the comics (something the first film actually got right)  I'd accept a grimmer concrete block landscape over the lovely curves and phallic imagery we usually get, although I hope that's not done away with entirely.

That footage of the van chase did take me out of it though. What we're seeing may not be the finished product - and I hope they add more blocks in the background - but that white van looks old even in our time period. I'm not against 20th/21st century vehicles being used in that environment. People still drive older vehicles nowadays, and it makes sense that in a post war scenario (assuming the war is much more recent in the film time period than the comics) they'd utilise resources from the past rather than churning out new technology en masse, but I'd like to see a mixture of both and I think they could have come up with something better than that van. I hope it's just a stand in, although I take Joe's point:

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 12:26:17 PM
As you can see in the T-S clip the bikes have FX/green tracking markers. There's nothing like that -at least visible- in the Dredd shots.

It could be rehearsal footage that had slipped over the wall, so to speak, rather final footage, but we'll see.

Misgivings aside, I'd like to add: in the end, context is everything. We really don't know how any of it will work until we see the final product. I'm still very much looking forward to that experience.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 02:17:49 PM
Yes, because that's they are the Justice Department, which are supposed to be the high end of the tech available in the near-future world they're going for in their version of Dredd.

Honestly, it is what it is.

People are kidding themselves if they think the van is going to be any different. They would not go to the effort of tracking in Digital Mattes and roto the background for rehearsals.

Shots do change, but all that may change IMO are tweaks to the background.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 February, 2012, 02:28:34 PM
I long ago made peace with the fact that this wouldn't be my ideal Dredd movie and it would likely be a fairly loose adaptation of the comic, but even I was a little taken aback at seeing that chase footage. I had assumed the reasoning for setting much of the film in a single location was so that we would only get to see glimpses of the amazing cityscape, and more use would be made of the futuristic setting in any potential (higher budget) sequels, but it looks like it really won't look very sci-fi or fantastical at all. As others have said i was expecting at least another couple of layers of detail. Looks more Beggar City than Mega City.

As for it looking 'cheap', it's too early to tell, but it's fair to say that it most definitely WOULD look cheap had the filmmakers tried to put a literal representation of MC1 up on screen on the budget they had. My hope is that by having modest ambitions of what could be achieved, the finished film will look thoroughly polished and accomplished, and so slick that it will instantly silence the moaners. I still think its going to be a really solid movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 02:33:55 PM
It would take more time, work and money to replace/rotoscope the van or any other vehicles for a whole chase scene in post than to just mock-up base futurist versions for the shoot. There'll be variant levels of tech and architecture in this film, a hodge-podge post war setting.


As Steve said: it is what it is. Get used to it. There'll be more FX layers to the shots but the basic look will be of the same tone. I'm hoping it'll be very a atmospheric and consistent look with variant levels of tech and architecture in this film, a hodge-podge post war setting, but it won't be Mo-Pads and flying Weather Stations at least not in this sector of the city.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 12 February, 2012, 02:37:56 PM
If SBT has no interest in this film and has no intention of going to see it, why the ruddy hell is he commenting on this thread and watching half finished footage of it? If I wasn't interested in it I certainly wouldn't be following all these links to catch little glimpses of it.

I like SBT but I get the distinct feeling sometimes that he purposely adopts the most contrary, controversial opinion possible and then revels in the resulting furore. I'm sure he wouldn't agree with me.

I, for one, think the battered, near future look is fantastic. To be honest, there are so many contradictory elements that make very little sense in the comic version that we fans just gloss over, it just couldn't possible be taken seriously on screen. I'm still very excited.

I bet SBT will go see it too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 February, 2012, 02:40:57 PM
There's always the chance that things could be pushed a bit more sci fi in any hypothetical sequels. Just look at Batman Begins and The Dark Knight - starkly different films in a visual sense - BB Gotham looks nothing at all like TDK Gotham, but it somehow works.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 12 February, 2012, 02:42:13 PM
Looks like the footage is being pulled.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 02:43:27 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 12 February, 2012, 02:42:13 PM
Looks like the footage is being pulled.


Not surprised, I hope that bloke just gets a rap on the knuckles.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 12 February, 2012, 02:44:56 PM
The vids are gone but the gifs remain for now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 12 February, 2012, 02:47:15 PM
Dreddheads remix is still up....lawyers paying him a visit in 3....2....1
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 12 February, 2012, 03:03:57 PM
Got to say the clip with the 'van chase' was immensely disappointing.Having already seen photos of the Justice Dept vehicles and the Lawmaster, I did fear the worse, but adding this old van to the mix too has me worried.This is not 1984, this is meant to be Dredd, we are supposed to see at least some high-tech stuff ,but it feels very lacking at the moment.How can a battered old van out run a Lawmaster, as we know it, unless the terms have changed drastically.
I cant remember the number of sci-fi films I've seen where the vehicles used really add substance and excitement to the film.The vehicles shown so far sadly leave me stone cold.
I also agree with Radiator, hoping to see some glimpses of a high-tech city, for that is looking unlikely as things currently stand.
The uniforms great, cast great, lot of top people on the project and I will see the finished product at least ten times whether it is good or not in the hope of another being made -BUT I really hope there is enough of Dredds world there for it to be worth it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 February, 2012, 03:29:46 PM


Er... how long was that "van chase" footage? Few secs? And some of gives your views of the film based on the unfinished FX footage! Oh take a chill pill.

There no Official yet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 12 February, 2012, 03:33:29 PM
The van argument... vans haven't  really evolved really.. and wheels are a pretty effective way.of moving around .. although  i don't  think a world that is emerging from a nuclear holocaust the practical easy design.

My only concern is that the footage is quite dark..the 3D will probably make it darker

Also in response to why  the exclusive appearing on a Spanish fan site is probably because they would get a more positive  response than posting it  on here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 12 February, 2012, 03:38:16 PM
As the shot came from an FX showreel, I think it's likely that what were seeing is the finished product. The background buildings and flyover have been already been added in: if there were going to be more skyscrapers it would make sense to put them in at the same time.

The original photos of the set and Justice Dept vehicles, combined with that 'crappy-old-van' clip, suggest that the art direction is committed to a 'third-world' vibe to the Big Meg. This is not the cluttered and crazily  teeming techno-hive that is described in the comics, ( and that was so well-realised in the opening of the Danny Cannon film ) but it does make sense in terms of a believable Justice Dept: it helps create the sense of a society that is not just a technological frog-leap ahead of ours, so much a society like ours might look as it plunges into a spiral of decay. This is, of course, a deviation from the world of Dredd we love and know but it makes much better sense of the Judge system when you think about it: Desperate times calling for desperate measures and all that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 February, 2012, 03:43:20 PM
The cars and vehicles are not going to look futuristic in the sense of Blade runner etc but more like RoboCop which had ordinary looking vehicles despite being set in a Future Detroit. I can live with that.

We're used to the strip being full of fantastical designs like Mo-Pads but these would cost money even if designed using CGI computer only and DR3DD is a mid budget production. 

The Film seems to be set just after the first of the Mega Cities were built so perhaps no mile high skyscrapers either. As always we'll have to wait till something official turns up rather than the digi nuggets we've seen so far.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 12 February, 2012, 03:45:02 PM
So the new film version of Mega City One is going to vary in style from the teeming techno hive from the comics as much as the world of Torquemada in Nemesis Book1 differed from the one in Book9?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 03:47:04 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 12 February, 2012, 03:38:16 PM
As the shot came from an FX showreel, I think it's likely that what were seeing is the finished product.


No, not really. It's a showreel of one compositor's work and that's all that can be shown. Not the finished image. Other work can be done to it before it reaches us.


Put simply and bluntly: [spoiler]Nowhere in the script is a date given to when it's set, only that the city exists within an irradiated wasteland. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 February, 2012, 03:47:22 PM
SBT has been invited to watch the DREDD film on Bluray at my house and hopefully by then there will be a special extended edition of Stallone's version out on Bluray as well. We'll have a double bill of excellence and horror at the same time  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 03:51:39 PM
Quote from: NSFTM on 12 February, 2012, 03:33:29 PM
Also in response to why the exclusive appearing on a Spanish fan site is probably because they would get a more positive response than posting it on here.


It wasn't an exclusive, the Spanish site just nicked it from the showreel which has since been pulled cos it's unofficial.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 03:52:46 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 February, 2012, 03:47:22 PM
We'll have a double bill of excellence and horror at the same time  :thumbsup:[/color]


Don't tell me you'll both be showering your helmets together.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 12 February, 2012, 03:53:46 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 February, 2012, 03:29:46 PM


Er... how long was that "van chase" footage? Few secs? And some of gives your views of the film based on the unfinished FX footage! Oh take a chill pill.

There no Official yet.

Hold on a second there Goaty - it's an old van being chased, a sentence that speaks for itself however long or short said chase may be.
Losing  too much future tech,  would be very disapppointing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 03:55:02 PM
This has been an apparent feature since the get-go.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 12 February, 2012, 03:56:28 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 03:47:04 PM
Put simply and bluntly: [spoiler]Nowhere in the script is a date given to when it's set, only that the city exists within an irradiated wasteland. [/spoiler]

Hhmm.[spoiler]A barren and infertile wasteland[/spoiler] then, is easier to portray than a metropolis. Should've called it [spoiler]The Cursed Earth[/spoiler]. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 03:58:18 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 12 February, 2012, 03:56:28 PM

Should've called it [spoiler]The Cursed Earth[/spoiler]


It's called that too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 12 February, 2012, 03:58:31 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 03:52:46 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 February, 2012, 03:47:22 PM
We'll have a double bill of excellence and horror at the same time  :thumbsup:[/color]


Don't tell me you'll both be showering your helmets together.
:lol:
From what I can gather they could do with a wash!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 12 February, 2012, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 12 February, 2012, 03:53:46 PM

Losing  too much future tech,  would be very disapppointing.

It might Sherman. But then again, a stripped down version of Dredd could make a welcome change. More action.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 February, 2012, 04:04:14 PM
Personally I am really liking the use of 20th century style vehicles. It feels very Mad Max which I love. And I think it gives it the grim future feel better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 12 February, 2012, 04:04:26 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 03:55:02 PM
This has been an apparent feature since the get-go.

Erm No it hasnt.When the other vehicles were critisised on here there were innumerable posts citing that they may just be background vehicles, SFX had to be added etc etc and to just wait.Only now are we getting a better picture.
It can still be a great film and as I said I will see it many times regardless.Nevertheless, I still dearly wish it is recognisable (beyond the uniforms) as Dredds world, but the distinct lack of future tech is currently pointing away from that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 04:24:30 PM
It was apparent to anyone who wasn't deluding themselves and clinging on to a faint hope that there'd be something more futuristic...

The catch wagons were all contemporary, why on earth would they have anything marginally more high-tech elsewhere? Doesn't matter if they were background vehicles or not, they've still got to convincingly sit in the same world as the rest.

The ambulance is more retro, so I can't imagine why people are that surprised that the criminals are driving an old piece of crap as well...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 February, 2012, 04:34:08 PM
Yeah, I'd actually forgotten about the ambulance. I remember thinking at the time those pictures leaked that everything looked very late 70s/early 80s - like a retro idea of what the future might be like, going back to the roots of Judge Dredd.

Didn't someone recently say that the first scene in DREDD is [spoiler]almost shot for shot identical to the one from on of the Dirty Harry movies?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 12 February, 2012, 04:35:10 PM
There have been loads of examples of 'old' vehicles in MC-1.
Someone with more get up and go them me could, if they wanted, post an example. I have seen vehivles that look like something from the 1030s in MC-1 in the comic, but as was pointed out earlier, folks seem to have selective amnesia.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 February, 2012, 04:35:33 PM
Even though I'm still holding out for something more sci-fi (robots/aliens/spaceships etc) I also like the Verhoevian approach.

If they're still making Robocop they should probably stop now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 February, 2012, 04:37:10 PM
Though I'll settle for mutants in place of aliens.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 12 February, 2012, 04:39:11 PM
If you're hoping to stay relatively unspoiled, don't read the comments on the Ain't It Cool article.
I now know how the movie ends. Bum...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 12 February, 2012, 04:40:04 PM
I don't care, as long as there's tits
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 February, 2012, 04:42:52 PM
Don't ever, ever read the comments under any AICN article under any circumstances if you want to keep your faith in humanity intact.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 12 February, 2012, 04:43:11 PM
Aye, what Steve said.

What's interesting for me about this approach is its relationship to the genesis of the strip.  The story we have for its origins is that Dredd was going to be a fairly near-future violent-cop-in-New-York, until Carlos' sweeping cityscape appeared on paper.  So in every way film this is a return to the beginnings of the strip. 

Only problem is, pretty much everyone acknowledges that it was Carlos' fantastical spin that transformed a potentially mundane cop drama into something with enough legs for 35+ years of stories,  2 movie adaptations and sundry toys and games.  But we'll see - I think the footage looks great for what it is, properly gritty, and I'll take a believable Dredd and some real heart over another SFX bonanza any day.  Naturally I'd prefer both, but as Santa always says, wish in one hand, shit in the other: see which one fills up first.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 12 February, 2012, 04:44:25 PM
Quote from: radiator on 12 February, 2012, 04:42:52 PM
Don't ever, ever read the comments under any AICN article under any circumstances if you want to keep your faith in humanity intact.

See also: YouTube
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 04:45:01 PM
Quote from: radiator on 12 February, 2012, 04:42:52 PM
Don't ever, ever read the comments under any AICN article under any circumstances if you want to keep your faith in humanity intact.

^^^ This ^^^
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 February, 2012, 04:48:49 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 12 February, 2012, 04:44:25 PM
Quote from: radiator on 12 February, 2012, 04:42:52 PM
Don't ever, ever read the comments under any AICN article under any circumstances if you want to keep your faith in humanity intact.

See also: YouTube

Indeed. Though Youtube comments are actually useful by comparison. There's a number of times I've found a vid's soundtrack without waiting six months for a reply.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 February, 2012, 04:55:19 PM
I personally think that the comments sections on any and all websites should be canned permanently. No good ever seems to come of it, and any rational voices inevitably get drowned out by the losers and loons.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 February, 2012, 04:59:14 PM
Quote from: radiator on 12 February, 2012, 04:42:52 PM
Don't ever, ever read the comments under any AICN article under any circumstances if you want to keep your faith in humanity intact.

Coolfan123? That's fucking Scojo! Thank you for ruining anything interesting to the new film, you're a loser!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 12 February, 2012, 05:10:08 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 04:24:30 PM
It was apparent to anyone who wasn't deluding themselves and clinging on to a faint hope that there'd be something more futuristic...

The catch wagons were all contemporary, why on earth would they have anything marginally more high-tech elsewhere? Doesn't matter if they were background vehicles or not, they've still got to convincingly sit in the same world as the rest.

The ambulance is more retro, so I can't imagine why people are that surprised that the criminals are driving an old piece of crap as well...

Hold on, (thats twice I've had to say that today) Steve.The majority of the film is set INDOORS.Some ,including YOU posted they hoped they would just be background/filler vehicles with more meatier SFX vehicles up front.Michael himself said to wait as VFX effects needed to be added yet.So I am not 'deluded' thank you, I did fear the worst but hoped for the best.

As I said ,it's important that it bears a strong enough relationship to Dredds world or Dredd just becomes a generic future cop.Lets hope that doesnt happen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 05:31:23 PM
You'll have to point me to what exactly I said - I'm not prepared to trawl through the whole threads trying to find it...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 12 February, 2012, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 05:31:23 PM
You'll have to point me to what exactly I said - I'm not prepared to trawl through the whole threads trying to find it...

You said they looked like Potman Pat wagons ( :lol:), hoped they would be background/filler vehicles and that the real meatier futuristic vehicles would be up front.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 05:49:29 PM
Yeah, that was an off-the-cuff pun - after searching for Postman Pat

What I actually said a few posts later was

"What I'm hoping for is they have some meatier vehicles done in post - nothing too outlandish, but something more imposing.

Hopefully these are just background/filler vehicles - they honestly look too small for a catch wagon."

I never thought there was going to be anything more futuristic, just hoped they mightcomp some 3D models of something a bit meatier if they couldn't find practical ones for some wider shots.

e.g. (http://www.paulightarmouring.co.uk/images/upload/1F4861XP.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 February, 2012, 05:58:19 PM
I thought they might have a few ARV's or similar but I don't think they had the budget or the inclination.

They'll be no Futuristic looking vehicles in DREDD. They will all be contemporary with little different decor added. It's cheaper and I think they want it too look similar to the war zones we see in the News.

Since most of the Film takes place inside a Block vehicles are simply not that important. If your thinking that's not good enough or you prefer the comic version with it's massive skylines and flying vehicles then that's your preferred version. It's mine too but perhaps we all have our personal 'vision' of MC1.

DREDD is not a multi million pound epic like Avengers or the new Total Recall. Cool, stylish looking Vehicles are not what this Film is about. I thought they'd be a lot more Futuristic too but DNA and Co are making the Film so that's that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 12 February, 2012, 06:19:09 PM
I wonder how the film begins? Is there going to be a narrative voice at the start, like in the Stallone version, outlining Dredd's world? Or are the viewers left to infer this through the dialogue of the characters? I wonder if any futuristic slang or jargon is used?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 12 February, 2012, 06:38:14 PM
I was musing over the Dialogue and pondering if there would be subtitles for the acronyms and megacity speak.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 February, 2012, 06:39:30 PM
No Mega-speak, but lots of f-bombs if the leaked script is anything to go by.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 12 February, 2012, 06:46:02 PM
Sounds like Black Hawk Down meets Judge Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 February, 2012, 06:47:05 PM
Someone (not that ScoJo) post this very good point in Empire Forum;

I really like the idea of using old vans and retrofitted stuff in this MC1. Like everything from the old world has just been salvaged and cannibalised. Not like the frikking spaceships and flying bikes from the Stallone film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 12 February, 2012, 06:53:00 PM
I look at it as being set 50 years in the future after a nuclear war that set  whats left of humanity back 50 years if ya catch my drift.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 February, 2012, 07:02:08 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 12 February, 2012, 06:53:00 PM
I look at it as being set 50 years in the future after a nuclear war that set  whats left of humanity back 50 years if ya catch my drift.

Must admit I hadn't thought of that DanboJohnJ.

The more people discuss this the more appropriate the contemporary DREDD future looks. It's starting to make a lot more sense to me now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 12 February, 2012, 07:19:45 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 03:47:04 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 12 February, 2012, 03:38:16 PM
As the shot came from an FX showreel, I think it's likely that what were seeing is the finished product.


No, not really. It's a showreel of one compositor's work and that's all that can be shown. Not the finished image. Other work can be done to it before it reaches us.


Apologies, Joe - you're quite right about that, calling it 'the finished product' was the wrong way to put it.  I just meant that the contentious points (crappy van & composite skyline ) would be unlikely to differ much in the ultimate cut.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 12 February, 2012, 07:20:19 PM
It's clearly set in the mid to late 80's. And all the better for it too. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Darren Stephens on 12 February, 2012, 07:47:56 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 12 February, 2012, 07:20:19 PM
It's clearly set in the mid to late 80's. And all the better for it too. :lol:
So that's why the helmets are so big? To cover the judges mullets?  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 12 February, 2012, 08:15:54 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 12 February, 2012, 07:20:19 PM
It's clearly set in the mid to late 80's. And all the better for it too. :lol:

Yeah seems like they took one look at that budget and said fukkit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge macbrayne on 12 February, 2012, 09:07:22 PM
http://www.facebook.com/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 February, 2012, 09:22:07 PM
Quote from: judge macbrayne on 12 February, 2012, 09:07:22 PM
http://www.facebook.com/

What?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 09:23:21 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 12 February, 2012, 04:04:26 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 03:55:02 PM
This has been an apparent feature since the get-go.

Erm No it hasnt.When the other vehicles were critisised on here there were innumerable posts citing that they may just be background vehicles,


You didn't hear that from me and suppositions from this forum shouldn't be taken as official anyway. I think it was pretty apparent early on that this wasn't going to be comic Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 12 February, 2012, 09:26:51 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 February, 2012, 07:02:08 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 12 February, 2012, 06:53:00 PM
I look at it as being set 50 years in the future after a nuclear war that set  whats left of humanity back 50 years if ya catch my drift.

Must admit I hadn't thought of that DanboJohnJ.

The more people discuss this the more appropriate the contemporary DREDD future looks. It's starting to make a lot more sense to me now.

And me, the more I think about it the more I'm getting to like the sound of it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 09:29:30 PM
Quote from: Stan on 12 February, 2012, 04:35:33 PM
Even though I'm still holding out for something more sci-fi (robots/aliens/spaceships etc)


I think you'd best jettison those ideas as soon as you can. They ain't comin'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 February, 2012, 09:37:11 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 09:29:30 PM
Quote from: Stan on 12 February, 2012, 04:35:33 PM
Even though I'm still holding out for something more sci-fi (robots/aliens/spaceships etc)


I think you'd best jettison those ideas as soon as you can. They ain't comin'.

That sounds like a bet!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 09:38:43 PM
The script is online.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 12 February, 2012, 10:01:44 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 12 February, 2012, 01:10:45 PM
TBH the IMAX screen at Manchesters filmworks didn't seem any larger than the digi screen when I watched Batman and Watchmen

Unfortunately, the IMAX brand became useful enough that they started licensing smaller screens.

True IMAX is the size of a house and tends to make you go "woah!"

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAX (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAX), section "IMAX Digital Theatre System and Screen Size Controversy".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 12 February, 2012, 10:25:41 PM
Now, I'm gonna say this as a movie watcher as opposed to a movie maker.. Everything I've seen so far sets stuff up for expansion on the universe in a sequel, depending on how well this one does. It's been done before. Star Wars started out on a few key interior sets, then expanded out into multiple worlds, sets and characters, and that worked.

While I'm also a little skeptical about a few choices made in vehicles, I'm quite sure that in the grand scheme of things it'll all be blended in. It's hard to not focus on a single element if that's all you're seeing. Imagine only seeing Cindy Crawford's mole, and never seeing the bigger picture. Who'd want to climb on top of that? Nobody.. Step back a little, see the bigger picture within its context and you'll have to be beaten off with a crowbar..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 12 February, 2012, 10:29:54 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 12 February, 2012, 10:25:41 PM
Now, I'm gonna say this as a movie watcher as opposed to a movie maker.. Everything I've seen so far sets stuff up for expansion on the universe in a sequel, depending on how well this one does. It's been done before. Star Wars started out on a few key interior sets, then expanded out into multiple worlds, sets and characters, and that worked.

While I'm also a little skeptical about a few choices made in vehicles, I'm quite sure that in the grand scheme of things it'll all be blended in. It's hard to not focus on a single element if that's all you're seeing. Imagine only seeing Cindy Crawford's mole, and never seeing the bigger picture. Who'd want to climb on top of that? Nobody.. Step back a little, see the bigger picture within its context and you'll have to be beaten off with a crowbar..

Indeed.

Maybe we will witness what will be the transition between old New York and the new Mega City?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 10:36:16 PM




Exactly Mick, I prefer Dredd the fighting underdog than Dredd the pompous dandy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 12 February, 2012, 11:16:43 PM
Quote from: Stan on 12 February, 2012, 09:37:11 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 09:29:30 PM
Quote from: Stan on 12 February, 2012, 04:35:33 PM
Even though I'm still holding out for something more sci-fi (robots/aliens/spaceships etc)


I think you'd best jettison those ideas as soon as you can. They ain't comin'.

That sounds like a bet!

What about heatseeking and ricochet bullets? Maybe a jet pack or two? :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jock on 12 February, 2012, 11:23:54 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 12:14:46 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 12 February, 2012, 12:11:21 PM
Regarding the 20th century van in the chase clip-perhaps it's a stand in van,pre-fx,much like the motorcycles in this behind the scenes clip from Terminator Salvation`?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjrbYD32toM

No.


Yes
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 12 February, 2012, 11:25:46 PM
Tidy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 11:36:46 PM
Quote from: James on 12 February, 2012, 11:25:46 PM
Tidy.


Depends who he's agreeing with.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jock on 12 February, 2012, 11:38:10 PM
Not Steve!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 12 February, 2012, 11:40:32 PM
Quote from: jock on 12 February, 2012, 11:38:10 PM
Not Steve!

Boom!!

Now we are talking

Nice one Jock
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 February, 2012, 11:41:28 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 12 February, 2012, 10:25:41 PM
Now, I'm gonna say this as a movie watcher as opposed to a movie maker.. Everything I've seen so far sets stuff up for expansion on the universe in a sequel, depending on how well this one does. It's been done before. Star Wars started out on a few key interior sets, then expanded out into multiple worlds, sets and characters, and that worked.

While I'm also a little skeptical about a few choices made in vehicles, I'm quite sure that in the grand scheme of things it'll all be blended in. It's hard to not focus on a single element if that's all you're seeing. Imagine only seeing Cindy Crawford's mole, and never seeing the bigger picture. Who'd want to climb on top of that? Nobody.. Step back a little, see the bigger picture within its context and you'll have to be beaten off with a crowbar..

I was about to say, I was speaking in terms of the franchise. Assuming it becomes one. I understand the first film sets the rules but the plot they've gone with should give them greater leeway when it comes to introducing other ideas seemingly out of the blue.

Quote from: Goaty on 12 February, 2012, 09:22:07 PM
Quote from: judge macbrayne on 12 February, 2012, 09:07:22 PM
http://www.facebook.com/

What?

It's a new-fangling social networking site the kids seem to love.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 12 February, 2012, 11:44:12 PM
Cheers for chipping in Jock!

So leaked images (that I didn't like seeing but I'm letting it go...) aren't even the finished ones.  Cos Jock said 'Yes'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2012, 11:44:26 PM
Quote from: jock on 12 February, 2012, 11:38:10 PM
Not Steve!


You little tease.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 11:49:52 PM
Stunned.

Why bother?

You may as well shoot a plate without the van and save yourself the effort of having to remove it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 12 February, 2012, 11:55:59 PM
All good so far. Some lovely guerilla style promo utilising GIF files and showreel footage and positive words from two big names in the know. Thanks Michael and Jock.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 12 February, 2012, 11:58:39 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 11:49:52 PM
Stunned.

Why bother?

You may as well shoot a plate without the van and save yourself the effort of having to remove it.

I'm not knowledgeable in these thing, but maybe it's just to provide a focus for the stunt guys on the bike, or pedestrians making it easier to act/react, rather than just doing it to nothing.  Or maybe it's due to it's effect on the environment, dust flying up, etc.

Probably more the former than the latter as dust effects can be done pretty well nowadays post production.

Anyway, I'm glad they're replacing the van. Near contemporary setting or not, that was just a bit much.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 February, 2012, 12:01:04 AM
Quote from: Mardroid on 12 February, 2012, 11:58:39 PMI'm not knowledgeable in these thing, but maybe it's just to provide a focus for the stunt guys on the bike, or pedestrians making it easier to act/react, rather than just doing it to nothing.


There's other ways of doing that so that save you the hassle of rotoscoping.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 February, 2012, 12:05:20 AM
Quote from: dracula1 on 12 February, 2012, 11:55:59 PM
All good so far. Some lovely guerilla style promo utilising GIF files and showreel footage


I don't think there was any steering mastermind behind the release of the footage, sheer leakage. It's been pulled.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 February, 2012, 12:06:22 AM
Big? That's very kind, but I'd hardly say I'm a big name..  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 13 February, 2012, 12:10:03 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 February, 2012, 12:06:22 AM
Big? That's very kind, but I'd hardly say I'm a big name..  :-[
[/quote

You are now to 2000ad fans.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 13 February, 2012, 12:12:31 AM
I think he was talking about Joe.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 13 February, 2012, 12:14:25 AM
A pun which would've worked had Michael not been mentioned by name.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 February, 2012, 12:16:45 AM
Quote from: Mardroid on 12 February, 2012, 11:58:39 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 11:49:52 PM
Stunned.

Why bother?

You may as well shoot a plate without the van and save yourself the effort of having to remove it.

I'm not knowledgeable in these thing, but maybe it's just to provide a focus for the stunt guys on the bike, or pedestrians making it easier to act/react, rather than just doing it to nothing.  Or maybe it's due to it's effect on the environment, dust flying up, etc.

Probably more the former than the latter as dust effects can be done pretty well nowadays post production.

Anyway, I'm glad they're replacing the van. Near contemporary setting or not, that was just a bit much.

That comp already had some dust added to it by the looks of things. It's a bit weird that it's already gone through one stage of comping with having the background added etc, but not had the main vehicle put in.

Unless with a second revision they thought that the chase needed the van replacing - I really don't see why though, from all the other vehicle stuff I just don't really see the point, unless they're replacing the ambulance etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 February, 2012, 12:21:30 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 February, 2012, 12:16:45 AM

Unless with a second revision they thought that the chase needed the van replacing - I really don't see why though, from all the other vehicle stuff I just don't really see the point, unless they're replacing the ambulance etc.



It had crossed my mind but I don't want to go down that road.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 13 February, 2012, 12:32:21 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 February, 2012, 12:05:20 AM
Quote from: dracula1 on 12 February, 2012, 11:55:59 PM
All good so far. Some lovely guerilla style promo utilising GIF files and showreel footage


I don't think there was any steering mastermind behind the release of the footage, sheer leakage. It's been pulled.

Possibly ... but any promo is good for increasing  public awareness.  Some Films with a bit of  pre-release notoriety have gone on to do well in the past.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 13 February, 2012, 01:27:18 AM
Quote from: jock on 12 February, 2012, 11:23:54 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 12:14:46 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 12 February, 2012, 12:11:21 PM
Regarding the 20th century van in the chase clip-perhaps it's a stand in van,pre-fx,much like the motorcycles in this behind the scenes clip from Terminator Salvation`?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjrbYD32toM

No.


Yes

Thank Grud for that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 13 February, 2012, 02:08:30 AM
Quote from: jock on 12 February, 2012, 11:23:54 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 12:14:46 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 12 February, 2012, 12:11:21 PM
Regarding the 20th century van in the chase clip-perhaps it's a stand in van,pre-fx,much like the motorcycles in this behind the scenes clip from Terminator Salvation`?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjrbYD32toM

No.


Yes

Wonder if they'll do the same for the lawmasters. ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 February, 2012, 02:09:41 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 13 February, 2012, 01:27:18 AM
Quote from: jock on 12 February, 2012, 11:23:54 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 12:14:46 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 12 February, 2012, 12:11:21 PM
Regarding the 20th century van in the chase clip-perhaps it's a stand in van,pre-fx,much like the motorcycles in this behind the scenes clip from Terminator Salvation`?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjrbYD32toM
Hmmm brains a bit scrambled, so just to be clear the VAN will appear or wont appear in the movie ?
Not that ive got anything about vans mind :)
No.


Yes

Thank Grud for that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 February, 2012, 02:10:55 AM
Crapcakes, my text didnt come out.

So just to make it clear for unintelligable (In this case me) will the van appear or not ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 13 February, 2012, 02:50:11 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 February, 2012, 02:10:55 AM
Crapcakes, my text didnt come out.

So just to make it clear for unintelligable (In this case me) will the van appear or not ?

I gather from what has been said, no.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 13 February, 2012, 03:53:07 AM
Quote from: jock on 12 February, 2012, 11:23:54 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 12:14:46 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 12 February, 2012, 12:11:21 PM
Regarding the 20th century van in the chase clip-perhaps it's a stand in van,pre-fx,much like the motorcycles in this behind the scenes clip from Terminator Salvation`?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjrbYD32toM
No.
Yes

Go Jock, straight from the horse's mouth (as someone who's ACTUALLY SEEN finished footage of the film), and no small relief, it has to be said!  In regards to 'the van shot' in question, including the somewhat sparse skyline, people (including myself, in a moment of doubt, sorry DNA guys) need to realise that whilst it may only have a budget of some $45m, it was shot in South Africa, meaning that $45m is going to be look more like $90m-plus when all is said and done, and considering Michaelvk once described on here the new Mega-City one as looking like "London's Canary Wharf on steroids", and that it looked "amazing", plus the fact Alex Garland himself stated they wanted to achieve "all the scale and spectacle" of the Big Meg onscreen, not to mention the fact John Wagner, Carlos Ezquerra, Jock, and Dave Gibbons have all expressed unabashed approval of what they've seen so far, I think I'll side with Joe on this one, that shot is not the finished article, and the final movie is going to be a visual tour-de-force (with a darker and more neo-noirish tone, not the out-and-out spectacle of the 1995 debacle), my faith is restored, roll on the teaser trailer...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 13 February, 2012, 09:00:05 AM
Quote from: jock on 12 February, 2012, 11:23:54 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 February, 2012, 12:14:46 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 12 February, 2012, 12:11:21 PM
Regarding the 20th century van in the chase clip-perhaps it's a stand in van,pre-fx,much like the motorcycles in this behind the scenes clip from Terminator Salvation`?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjrbYD32toM

No.





Yes



YES!!!I KNEW it!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 13 February, 2012, 10:42:20 AM
Could the thought be to lower expectation initially? (why not use stuff from the films development stages to promote it and increase awareness)  . . .  then BAM! all the juicy refined stuff appears nearer the time to cause a pre-release frenzy! :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 February, 2012, 10:47:52 AM
a) that would be a terrible strategy for promoting a film.

b) These leaks aren't official - they were put on a compositor's showreel, and have now been taken down, presumably by order of the filmmaker's lawyers.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 February, 2012, 10:51:07 AM
I think that's reading too much into it.

The simple answer seems to be that a compositor (who can't tell the difference between Batman and Superman, and has worked on Harry 'Porter' according to his reel) didn't know that you shouldn't put unreleased work on your reel.

I don't think it's part of some grand plan. Just events.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 13 February, 2012, 11:12:19 AM
Whatever the promo method used there is definitely a buzz round DREDD at the moment.  Friends of mine that didn't really know this film was in the offing are now chatting about it on Facebook.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: norse_sage on 13 February, 2012, 11:44:15 AM
I'm thinking viral marketing here too.

Just seems a bit too co-incidental. Somehow hwo has worked on all those movies in the reel would surely know better.

Nice way to get early some buzz out, prior to a teaser wich most be attached to the right movie, and the more graphic pictures have successfully generated more positive hype and awareness beyond the existing fanbase than any other picture, interview or announcement so far.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 February, 2012, 11:50:31 AM
Nice to see you taking some leave from fighting the good fight at IMDB, Norse..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 February, 2012, 12:00:28 PM
Quote from: norse_sage on 13 February, 2012, 11:44:15 AM
I'm thinking viral marketing here too.

Just seems a bit too co-incidental. Somehow hwo has worked on all those movies in the reel would surely know better.



If they knew better they wouldn't have put incomplete shots up that are unrepresentative of the final product.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 13 February, 2012, 01:41:25 PM
No. No way is an internet forum the way to promote your new product.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: norse_sage on 13 February, 2012, 02:50:37 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 February, 2012, 12:00:28 PM
Quote from: norse_sage on 13 February, 2012, 11:44:15 AM
I'm thinking viral marketing here too.

Just seems a bit too co-incidental. Somehow hwo has worked on all those movies in the reel would surely know better.



If they knew better they wouldn't have put incomplete shots up that are unrepresentative of the final product.

For an official campaign geared toward the general audience, true, there's no way they would do that.
But as a way of spreading the word that the movie won't pull any punches to the niche audience discussing movies on various online webforum, why not?

Unoffical spyshots and what not have a way of getting out, and so those that have made the rounds (like the fat stuntguy on the less than well recieved lawmaster) haven't done the movie any favours. But I would say that these new pictures and even clips have.

They've been making the rounds in all the usual places, Anderson looks good in all of them, Dredd looks good in at least one of them, and we've got two headshots. The movie is being discussed all over the place, not all good mind you, but it isn't being universally smalled either. For a movie with the history this one has, that is really as good as it gets.

I would say that the recent pictures and gifs have created more awareness and hype with niche audiences beyond the 2000AD crowd than any previously released still, interview or announcement combined. They've even turned some of the Stallone fans formerly trolling the Dredd imdb board into converts!

If indeed this was a random leak, it couldn't have worked out better for them even if they had planned it.
Which leads me to speculate that that was just what they did.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 13 February, 2012, 03:04:40 PM
Here!  here!  Sire!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 February, 2012, 03:17:35 PM
So, let me get this straight - you think that the compositor was given the tacit OK by Lionsgate to stick a crappy quality letterboxed version of an unfinished shot on his reel, in the hope that it would get picked up?

And then he would have to explain to any new potential employer that he doesn't really make a habit of sticking unfinished, unreleased work on his reel and he can be trusted?

Isn't a more plausible explanation that he's just naive, rather than some elaborate viral?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 13 February, 2012, 03:24:13 PM
Quote from: norse_sage on 13 February, 2012, 02:50:37 PMFor an official campaign geared toward the general audience, true, there's no way they would do that.
But as a way of spreading the word that the movie won't pull any punches to the niche audience discussing movies on various online webforum, why not?

Unoffical spyshots and what not have a way of getting out, and so those that have made the rounds (like the fat stuntguy on the less than well recieved lawmaster) haven't done the movie any favours. But I would say that these new pictures and even clips have.

They've been making the rounds in all the usual places, Anderson looks good in all of them, Dredd looks good in at least one of them, and we've got two headshots. The movie is being discussed all over the place, not all good mind you, but it isn't being universally smalled either. For a movie with the history this one has, that is really as good as it gets.

I would say that the recent pictures and gifs have created more awareness and hype with niche audiences beyond the 2000AD crowd than any previously released still, interview or announcement combined. They've even turned some of the Stallone fans formerly trolling the Dredd imdb board into converts!

If indeed this was a random leak, it couldn't have worked out better for them even if they had planned it.
Which leads me to speculate that that was just what they did.

Well if that's their tactics it's backfired on them, because most of the comments so far on this forum have been mainly one of indifference and negativity to the new film. Just ask SmallBlueThing what he thinks of the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 February, 2012, 03:32:25 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 February, 2012, 03:17:35 PM
So, let me get this straight - you think that the compositor was given the tacit OK by Lionsgate to stick a crappy quality letterboxed version of an unfinished shot on his reel, in the hope that it would get picked up?

And then he would have to explain to any new potential employer that he doesn't really make a habit of sticking unfinished, unreleased work on his reel and he can be trusted?

Isn't a more plausible explanation that he's just naive, rather than some elaborate viral?

No, it very likely he used some footage without their knowledge for the showreel.

As says many times on here, it not official.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 February, 2012, 03:38:30 PM
Yes, I know. I was just astonished that people thought it might be a viral.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 February, 2012, 03:39:14 PM
Any publicity is good publicity isnt it ? The shots that we have seen in this video arent lame by any standards, shows the grittyness, darkness and gutsier Dredd WE all want.

Regardless of what the "STALLONESMYDREDD-WANNABEES" want or say we will have our vision of DREDD and or near close to it im sure of that.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 February, 2012, 03:42:57 PM
The idea that they would deliberately leak that shot of the van - a vehicle which according to some may not actually be in the final film - and is by all accounts unfinshed - is utterly ridiculous.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 13 February, 2012, 03:45:20 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 13 February, 2012, 03:24:13 PM

Well if that's their tactics it's backfired on them, because most of the comments so far on this forum have been mainly one of indifference and negativity to the new film. Just ask SmallBlueThing what he thinks of the film.

From the last 20 pages in this thread. The freshly leaked photo's and footage has been mainly positive. Even swaying the on the fence boarders to some degree.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 13 February, 2012, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 February, 2012, 03:17:35 PMIsn't a more plausible explanation that he's just naive, rather than some elaborate viral?
I never considered any other possibility. There's no way in hell this is a viral—it's just some idiot who's made himself less employable.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 February, 2012, 03:53:05 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 13 February, 2012, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 February, 2012, 03:17:35 PMIsn't a more plausible explanation that he's just naive, rather than some elaborate viral?
I never considered any other possibility. There's no way in hell this is a viral—it's just some idiot who's made himself less employable.

Exactly!...He just boosted his portfolio by showing everybody in the business that he can't be trusted.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 February, 2012, 04:15:25 PM

That unoffical unfinished drawing for next 2000AD Dredd story here;
(http://i43.tinypic.com/rm02zk.jpg)

So that is example of you don't having to based your views of the Dredd film on untested and unfinished unoffical footage with few secs even old van. Again, just take chill pill!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 13 February, 2012, 04:22:14 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 13 February, 2012, 04:15:25 PM

That unoffical unfinished drawing for next 2000AD Dredd story here;
(http://i43.tinypic.com/rm02zk.jpg)



The helmet's too big and the pads are too small. This is going to be rubbish.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 13 February, 2012, 04:23:01 PM
ooh is Buttonman working on a new Dredd  ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Toni Scandella on 13 February, 2012, 05:59:08 PM
While I tentatively welcome that teaser piscure for the next Dredd story, I have to ask...

Is he returning to a Mk 1 Lawgiver, then?  I knew it mightn't as far in the future as we'd hoped, but such an old gun (designed in the 1970's!) being used in the next Dredd story is a taking things a bit too far!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: weehawk on 13 February, 2012, 06:01:42 PM
Ok, so, in the footage, is that Urban's voice or is it a soundbyte from Dredd VS Death?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 13 February, 2012, 06:10:18 PM
This is gonna sound mad but I'm a little disapointed to hear this. Hope its not too far removed from the 'Crappy' van used. And I REALLY hope that it's not a 'Hover' type vehicle like some kinda 'Batwing' thing.:-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 February, 2012, 06:15:55 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 13 February, 2012, 06:10:18 PM
This is gonna sound mad but I'm a little disapointed to hear this. Hope its not too far removed from the 'Crappy' van used. And I REALLY hope that it's not a 'Hover' type vehicle like some kinda 'Batwing' thing.:-\

Same here.

Regarding the guy who leaked it, I don't think there are many films where fans would be able to find that gif on some guys portfolio show reel in such a short space of time after uploading. It's actually pretty impressive! But unfortunate for him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 February, 2012, 06:22:48 PM
Quote from: weehawk on 13 February, 2012, 06:01:42 PM
Ok, so, in the footage, is that Urban's voice or is it a soundbyte from Dredd VS Death?

Don't panic! It's from the video game.

In the movie Dredd will sound like Paul Hogan!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 13 February, 2012, 06:26:24 PM
And further more I want that van to be packed to the roof with stolen Commodore 64s, Walkmans and Gameboys, all ready to be flogged on the mean (and neon lit) streets of Mega City 1 by the ruthless 'Creeps' what stole them. :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 13 February, 2012, 06:29:54 PM
I bet they just CG erase the vans wheels and turn it in top a hover van.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 13 February, 2012, 06:32:32 PM
Man I hope not. They can CGI the commodores and shit. I don't mind that! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 13 February, 2012, 06:38:12 PM
lol
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: weehawk on 13 February, 2012, 07:01:48 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 13 February, 2012, 06:22:48 PM
Quote from: weehawk on 13 February, 2012, 06:01:42 PM
Ok, so, in the footage, is that Urban's voice or is it a soundbyte from Dredd VS Death?

Don't panic! It's from the video game.

In the movie Dredd will sound like Paul Hogan!

:lol:

Well, I'm hoping he uses that eerie voice he had in Priest.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 13 February, 2012, 07:19:59 PM
So then Dredd,Yeah! He fuckin clocks the 'Commodore Gang' (or the 64ers as they're sometimes known) and gives chase.
They barrel it but he shoots their tyres out whilst doin a tun on the 'Skedway' and all hell breaks lose.
The van is a rite old piece of shit and pretty much just vaporizes there and then.
Shits flyin everywhere.
Walkmans, Gameboys, the lot.
Dredd thinks 'Yeah bitches. U Dead, but, a headphones cable offa a Walkman gets caught in the Lawmasters 'Beast' front wheel.
Dredd goes arse over tit and lands 'SMACK!' head first on the 'Sked'.
But do you know what saves him?
Thats rite. :D
His massive helmet.
Pretty sure you'll find thats how it plays out?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 13 February, 2012, 07:25:33 PM
Shits flyin everywhere.
Walkmans, Gameboys, the lot.

LMAO
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 13 February, 2012, 07:27:53 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: satchmo on 13 February, 2012, 07:28:33 PM
It's no joke, think what Filmore Faro would pay for a Commodore 64. He'd cap all our asses for a rusty tin of beans...  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 13 February, 2012, 07:36:19 PM
It used to drive me up the fuckin wall when the thing crashed. A fuckin cassette tape!!! My stars! U just can't imagine that now can ya.
Bashed that 'Anti-Rad' game though.
Loved it. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: satchmo on 13 February, 2012, 07:42:20 PM
Sacred Armour of Antiriad? What a game that was...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 13 February, 2012, 07:49:32 PM
TRUE DAT!! :D U ever complete it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: satchmo on 13 February, 2012, 08:01:39 PM
Nowhere near  :D Got it for my emulator so I will one day. Probably the same way I eventually finished Cobra- [spoiler]BY CHEATING.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 February, 2012, 08:06:26 PM
There is a little film called DREDD, used be talked about on this thread.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 13 February, 2012, 08:09:59 PM
I got that rock slinging ,cave dwellin, mono browed ape dude suited and booted and all the way out the top of that exploding mutherfukin moutain @ least twice.
Stick with man + no cheats. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: satchmo on 13 February, 2012, 08:17:13 PM
Soz Goaty, Dredd's helmet is [spoiler]too big/ too small/ just right[/spoiler] and the film itself looks [spoiler]arsom/ canny good/ rubbish[/spoiler]. That's my final word on the subject I'm busy playing Chuckie Egg 2.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 13 February, 2012, 08:31:00 PM
I'm gonna go watch Alien (directors cut). L8trs. :wave:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 13 February, 2012, 08:33:53 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 13 February, 2012, 08:31:00 PM
I'm gonna go watch Alien (directors cut). L8trs. :wave:
Why comment that on this thread?




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 February, 2012, 08:41:12 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 13 February, 2012, 07:19:59 PM
So then Dredd,Yeah! He fuckin clocks the 'Commodore Gang' (or the 64ers as they're sometimes known) and gives chase.
They barrel it but he shoots their tyres out whilst doin a tun on the 'Skedway' and all hell breaks lose.
The van is a rite old piece of shit and pretty much just vaporizes there and then.
Shits flyin everywhere.
Walkmans, Gameboys, the lot.
Dredd thinks 'Yeah bitches. U Dead, but, a headphones cable offa a Walkman gets caught in the Lawmasters 'Beast' front wheel.
Dredd goes arse over tit and lands 'SMACK!' head first on the 'Sked'.
But do you know what saves him?
Thats rite. :D
His massive helmet.
Pretty sure you'll find thats how it plays out?

You missed abit, so ive edited it for you. :)

So then Dredd,Yeah! He fuckin clocks the 'Commodore Gang' (or the 64ers as they're sometimes known) and gives chase.
They barrel it but he shoots their tyres out whilst doin a tun on the 'Skedway' and all hell breaks lose.
The van is a rite old piece of shit and pretty much just vaporizes there and then.
Shits flyin everywhere.
Walkmans, Gameboys, the lot.
Dredd thinks 'Yeah bitches. U Dead, but, a headphones cable offa a Walkman gets caught in the Lawmasters 'Beast' front wheel.
From the inside the cab, passenger side you hear...
"You plonker ROdney, floor it ya muppet"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 February, 2012, 09:04:07 PM
Am I on twitter?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 13 February, 2012, 09:05:32 PM
PSSHAWWW

Not one mention of a Dreamcast, this movie's gonna suck.

Suck like Big the Cat
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 February, 2012, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: weehawk on 13 February, 2012, 07:01:48 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 13 February, 2012, 06:22:48 PM
Quote from: weehawk on 13 February, 2012, 06:01:42 PM
Ok, so, in the footage, is that Urban's voice or is it a soundbyte from Dredd VS Death?

Don't panic! It's from the video game.

In the movie Dredd will sound like Paul Hogan!

:lol:

Well, I'm hoping he uses that eerie voice he had in Priest.


Actually my Paul Hogan comment was more a reaction to speculation fatigue, but now I think about it Hogan has got a "Dead Man" era Dredd face. Save a bundle on makeup too!

I'm sure Urban will do a bang up Job though and he was indeed the best thing in Priest.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 February, 2012, 09:38:50 PM

After read those in this thread last few hours make me feelings like this below;

(http://i43.tinypic.com/24v8jt2.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 13 February, 2012, 09:44:15 PM
Nicely done
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 February, 2012, 09:51:32 PM
Heh.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 13 February, 2012, 09:53:15 PM
Good 'un Goaty.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: LARF on 13 February, 2012, 09:53:50 PM
Class.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 13 February, 2012, 09:59:49 PM
Zarjaz!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 13 February, 2012, 10:04:04 PM
Nice one goaty.

Is that the final cut or are you adding splattered brains later :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 13 February, 2012, 10:04:44 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 13 February, 2012, 09:38:50 PM

After read those in this thread last few hours make me feelings like this below;

(http://i43.tinypic.com/24v8jt2.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 February, 2012, 10:14:49 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 13 February, 2012, 10:04:04 PM
Nice one goaty.

Is that the final cut or are you adding splattered brains later :lol:

No, that for another FX company  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 13 February, 2012, 10:22:03 PM
Can't you find a pic of S**** and put HIS head on there?? :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 February, 2012, 10:24:22 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 13 February, 2012, 10:22:03 PM
Can't you find a pic of S**** and put HIS head on there?? :lol:

Nice idea :) Great animation btw Goaty
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 February, 2012, 10:25:29 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 13 February, 2012, 10:22:03 PM
Can't you find a pic of S**** and put HIS head on there?? :lol:

I did but it on cutting room floor.  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 13 February, 2012, 11:10:15 PM
(forum ate my post)

bit concerned about this .. Goaty's glasses are too big and his t shirt is not really in keeping with the traditional 'style' of top i would expect.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 13 February, 2012, 11:41:54 PM
Nothing new *and maybe this is not so bad...* but have "one" old unsolved thing. I need someone analysing it. (design pics). If it is nothing, I am sorry.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3585551/mediaindex
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 February, 2012, 11:44:05 PM
It's some commercial work from a concept designer who worked on Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 13 February, 2012, 11:54:26 PM
I don't think it's even commercial work. It seems to be something he's done in his own time for his own amusement.

http://web.me.com/iweightman/Ivan_Weightman,_Art_Direction,_Portfolio,_Concept,_Design,_Tv,_Film,_Blog_site/Blog/Blog.html (http://web.me.com/iweightman/Ivan_Weightman,_Art_Direction,_Portfolio,_Concept,_Design,_Tv,_Film,_Blog_site/Blog/Blog.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 February, 2012, 11:56:04 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 13 February, 2012, 11:41:54 PM
Nothing new *and maybe this is not so bad...* but have "one" old unsolved thing. I need someone analysing it. (design pics). If it is nothing, I am sorry.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3585551/mediaindex

Looks pretty cool tho :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 14 February, 2012, 12:01:02 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 February, 2012, 03:39:14 PM
Any publicity is good publicity isnt it ?

Tell that to Gary Glitter.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 14 February, 2012, 03:06:52 AM
Quote from: M.I.K. on 13 February, 2012, 11:54:26 PM
I don't think it's even commercial work. It seems to be something he's done in his own time for his own amusement.

Correction : Street racer picture was done in his spare time, robot designs look like they're for this advert... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H0AivBp9Dc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H0AivBp9Dc)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 14 February, 2012, 04:53:19 AM
Ahhhh! Excellent. Thank you very much. (keeping an eye on that talented man)

Bonus Pic for enjoyment: A third photo from the Dredd Wrap Party :)
http://img258.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-6290/loc214/194624296_262_122_214lo.jpg
(can name names, location, source, if needed)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 14 February, 2012, 04:59:15 AM
http://img258.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=194624296_262_122_214lo.jpg
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 14 February, 2012, 09:19:22 AM
Mr. Urban Int. is that Lena in the hot tub?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 14 February, 2012, 11:11:34 AM
Quote from: radiator on 11 February, 2012, 07:19:18 PM
From what I've seen/heard, it looks like the humour will be blacker and less whimsical than the comics - more Verhoeven than Wagner. There definitely is humour in the script, despite what many people say - but it's very dry and perhaps doesn't read that funny on the page - there's one or two scenes that should get a big laugh in the cinema provided they're handled well. I should stress again that I've only read the first 12 or so pages of the script so I'm speculating.

Dredd's dialogue - what I read of it - is spot on Wagner though; gruff, terse, cynical - note perfect. He sure as shit ain't gonna be getting all teared up in the locker room about his poor old bro - "I judged him"....

So a lack of humour is quite a deviation from comic strip Dredd; so is a lack of fantastical elements like vampires, zombies aliens and downright weird MC-1 freaks. I've just read a strip were an ourangatan is elected for Mayor of Mega City One. For those of us who have been lucky enough to see some stills from the film, it looks as though the film is focussing on the more murderous aspects of Dredd and his Mega City. Might this put some fans off?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 14 February, 2012, 11:14:34 AM
putting some fans off V's potentially creating a new large fanbase ? The fans you put off will still watch it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 14 February, 2012, 11:58:26 AM
The strip itself has toned down those elements, I guess since around the time of the Pit - they're still in the background, but the strip has evolved as well.

I think there's room for some of the aspects like Resyk, Vi-zines, Euthanasiums etc. but since it looks like the movie version is a city on the edge of collapse, there's not much call for the outlandish, they would just be out of place in their version.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 14 February, 2012, 12:37:30 PM
yes I know but do you think this may put some people off?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 14 February, 2012, 12:41:45 PM
No I don't think so.

I think fans of the strip would prefer some satirical elements, but I doubt it has much influence on the rest of the audience.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 14 February, 2012, 12:46:53 PM
I've always tended to associate Dredd with satire, even the most violent parts. It seems the film is going to be different, darker. I am looking forward to see if they manage to pull it off on screen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 February, 2012, 01:13:38 PM
Alex Garland was quoted in the Empire article as saying they have conciously played down the satirical/humourous elements for the movie, as the 'hyper-violent future cop' angle was what most appealed to him reading Judge Dredd comics as a kid, and he wanted to make first and foremost a hi-octane action film.

Seems somewhat of a mistake to me - Wagner and Grant's absurd sense of humour is - even now - what gives the strip a strong sense of identity - but we'll see how it turns out.

Tharg has stated that there is an effort being made to 'do that stuff in the background' - put little gags and weird stuff in for the fans - and you can see evidence of this already - some of the set spy-shots showed Chopper's infamous graffiti tag, and the 'No Creds = No Meds' sign in the leaked clip.

A couple of years ago, John Wagner invited fans via his facebook page to suggest little background details or humourous incidental skits that could be used for this purpose, which he could then pitch to the producers for inclusion in the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 14 February, 2012, 02:27:42 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 14 February, 2012, 09:19:22 AM
Mr. Urban Int. is that Lena in the hot tub?

Nah, those are the stunt(doubles) girls.. Didn't see Lena at the party. Olivia was there though..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 14 February, 2012, 02:35:43 PM
Never really thought of Dredd as a 'hyper-violent future cop', I mean , he may wipe out half a billion folk one afternoon, when he has a mind to , but they had been very very naughty.Dredd is a very very nice man  :D

Seriously though, the satire in Dredd and the humour has always stood out far more for me.I can understand them concentrating on the violence and dark side as a starting point though, that will appeal to many.
Having watched the Lethal Weapon series this week, with lots of violence mixed with humour -would they be a good balance/template for any future Dredd movie?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 14 February, 2012, 02:44:16 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 14 February, 2012, 02:27:42 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 14 February, 2012, 09:19:22 AM
Mr. Urban Int. is that Lena in the hot tub?

Nah, those are the stunt(doubles) girls.. Didn't see Lena at the party. Olivia was there though..

Thanks Michael.

Karl looks like he's having fun. Did you get in the hot tub too? :-)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 14 February, 2012, 03:17:32 PM
The thing with Dredd is that the strip CAN be full of wacky humour and satire but there are numerous great stories where these elements are played down or totally absent. One of my favourite Dredd stories of the last 10 years is Mandroid and there aren't many laughs to be found in that. In fact, it's unrelentingly grim and depressing.

I suppose, ideally, the film should try to present a definitive version of Dredd but that's been tried already and it was a mess. From what I've seen so far, the black humour is there, just not at the forefront.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 February, 2012, 03:25:01 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 14 February, 2012, 03:17:32 PM
The thing with Dredd is that the strip CAN be full of wacky humour and satire but there are numerous great stories where these elements are played down or totally absent. One of my favourite Dredd stories of the last 10 years is Mandroid and there aren't many laughs to be found in that. In fact, it's unrelentingly grim and depressing.

I suppose, ideally, the film should try to present a definitive version of Dredd but that's been tried already and it was a mess. From what I've seen so far, the black humour is there, just not at the forefront.

And one of best stories, America.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 14 February, 2012, 03:32:33 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 14 February, 2012, 11:11:34 AMa lack of humour is quite a deviation from comic strip Dredd; so is a lack of fantastical elements like vampires, zombies aliens and downright weird MC-1 freaks.

Humour, yes; not so vampires, zombies, and aliens. They add flavour, sure, but they haven't ever been essential. The Cam Kennedy-drawn 'Back on the Streets' from Prog 435 is likely the best depiction of Mega-City One in microcosm.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 February, 2012, 03:39:35 PM
QuoteThe thing with Dredd is that the strip CAN be full of wacky humour and satire but there are numerous great stories where these elements are played down or totally absent. One of my favourite Dredd stories of the last 10 years is Mandroid and there aren't many laughs to be found in that. In fact, it's unrelentingly grim and depressing.

I'd say the vast majority of Dredd stories do have a strong element of the absurd or eccentric about them. It's absolutely key to the appeal and longevity of the series. The undercurrent of humour and weirdness is always there - even in more serious stories like America and Day of Chaos.

The city is such a key element of the comic strip - I hesitate to say it's the real main character of Dredd as some tend to do - and to have it reimagined as a desolate slum, verging on collapse seems a missed opportunity to me. Parts of MC1 no doubt are depressing shitholes, but there's so much more to it than that - it has this larger than life playground quality to it and has been so explored and expanded over the years it really feels like a tangible, fully-realised location.

Take that charm and sense of wonder away, and I'm not sure what is there to distinguish out from all the other dystopian future cities.

Still, I have great faith in Garland as a writer - I'd be pumped for this film even if I wasn't a massive Dredd nerd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 February, 2012, 03:49:59 PM
Going back to an earlier discussion about how best to implement Judge Death in the grittier, more realistic version of Dredd 2012...

How about fusing the character with that of Cal?

An insane - possibly mutant with latent powers comaparable with Anderson's - head of the SJS, stages an internal coup within Justice Department and begins a policy of executing mass swathes of the population, gaining the nickname Death, while Dredd and Anderson lead a counter-insurgency...

As the baddies would be a twisted version of the SJS, these 'Dark Judges' would all have Judge Death-like skull insignia on their judge uniforms.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 14 February, 2012, 03:50:29 PM
Quote from: radiator on 14 February, 2012, 03:39:35 PM
QuoteThe thing with Dredd is that the strip CAN be full of wacky humour and satire but there are numerous great stories where these elements are played down or totally absent. One of my favourite Dredd stories of the last 10 years is Mandroid and there aren't many laughs to be found in that. In fact, it's unrelentingly grim and depressing.

I'd say the vast majority of Dredd stories do have a strong element of the absurd or eccentric about them. It's absolutely key to the appeal and longevity of the series. The undercurrent of humour and weirdness is always there - even in more serious stories like America and Day of Chaos.

The city is such a key element of the comic strip - I hesitate to say it's the real main character of Dredd as some tend to do - and to have it reimagined as a desolate slum, verging on collapse seems a missed opportunity to me. Parts of MC1 no doubt are depressing shitholes, but there's so much more to it than that - it has this larger than life playground quality to it and has been so explored and expanded over the years it really feels like a tangible, fully-realised location.

Take that charm and sense of wonder away, and I'm not sure what is there to distinguish out from all the other dystopian future cities.

Still, I have great faith in Garland as a writer - I'd be pumped for this film even if I wasn't a massive Dredd nerd.

Someone commented that the original film tried to do too much and became a total dog's dinner, which I believe nails it. As Garland has said, this is a striped-down version of Dredd's world that focuses on his role as judge, jury and executioner in a dystopian future. As much as we all enjoy the satire and silliness, on the big screen such things can so easily come across as camp. Plus, *any* comparison with Stallone's awful version of the character will not only sink this movie but also the hope of ever seeing Dredd on the big screen again.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 February, 2012, 04:06:08 PM
Oh, absolutely - I'm certainly not one of those flat-earther types who insist the only Dredd they want to see on screen be an exact facsimile of the comic version (complete with Walter the Wobot, synthi-sausages, and Dredd shouting "Hi-Ex!" and "Boot-Knife!" every five seconds) - I'm well aware that changes are absolutely necessary to adapt something like Dredd, and I'm very much in favour of stripping out the more outlandish or sillier elements of Dredd's world...

I just worry that in going all out for gritty, dark, brutal action, we might lose a key part of appeal of the comics and it might end up being a little generic dystopian sci-fi.

As I said though, I'm a huge fan of Garland's work - delighted that it's in his hands - and am very much looking forward to seeing what the tone of the finished film is like.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 14 February, 2012, 04:07:50 PM
he better bloody shout boot knife at some point. Preferably whist shoving his knife through a perps neck, complete with arterial spray. Now thats gritty.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 14 February, 2012, 04:41:11 PM
As long as he doesn't mumble 'full auto rapid fire' or 'Double whammy' whilst dribbling down his chin then I'm happy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 February, 2012, 04:44:19 PM

I am sure the new Dredd would be better without "I knew you'd say that!"  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 February, 2012, 04:59:47 PM
I love the ECTB2000AD podcast review/dissection of the Stallone Dredd movie - I've listened to it at least three times now. Alec Worley is so great on it, he sounds like he's in physical pain just talking about the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 14 February, 2012, 05:17:47 PM
Just a quick question, apologies if it's been asked before (probably has) -the begining of Dredd, does it has a scroll or voice over to explain things ,or is it just left open?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 14 February, 2012, 05:19:12 PM
Quote from: radiator on 14 February, 2012, 03:39:35 PM
The city is such a key element of the comic strip - I hesitate to say it's the real main character of Dredd as some tend to do - and to have it reimagined as a desolate slum, verging on collapse seems a missed opportunity to me. Parts of MC1 no doubt are depressing shitholes, but there's so much more to it than that - it has this larger than life playground quality to it and has been so explored and expanded over the years it really feels like a tangible, fully-realised location.

Well let's face it: the Judges are going to have more work to do in the run-down areas anyway, even in the comic's version, so makes sense that's what the movie's going to focus on. Doesn't mean the other aspects of MC-1 aren't there in this version though. We just may not get to see them this time out.

I've always imagined MC-1 to be a fucking nightmare anyway. The humor and satire have always just lightened up some really depressing and frightening concepts over the years. League Of Fatties, Otto Sump, etc are really pretty bleak ideas when you look at them.

Also, I think MC-1 being portrayed as a civilization on the edge just works better from a dramatic standpoint. The Judges rarely seem too stretched when it comes to upholding their laws in the strip. The people always lose because the presence of The Law is so overwhelming in their lives. Turning that on its head for the movie adds some real danger and, dare I say it, some relevant social commentary for the world we're living in now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 14 February, 2012, 05:31:10 PM
I think it's also something that John Wagner has addressed over the years, to make them fallible, under strength because of various catastrophes, prone to corruption within etc. so they're not some perfect organisation who can easily deal with any crime.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 14 February, 2012, 05:36:00 PM
So Dredd,Yeah. Sees this guy on the 'Pedway' acting like 'Ten men'. Give'n it 'All that' to randoms as they pass by for no good reason.
So he goes, 'Oy! Dick'ed! Any more of that shit an I'll come over there and fuckin knock u out'.
Guy goes, 'Fuckoff! U fink ur a fuckin Bad Man with all that leather an ya big daft fuckin 'at'.
So Dredd,Yeah, Proper sees is arse and goes 'Right twat,It's fuckin 'On' now'.
Steams over to him and fuckin 'Blaps' him one right in the temple with his fist.
OOOF!!!.
Guys like 'WTF!!!'.
Dredds like, 'That'll fukin learn ya'.
Guys only got a massive piece of 'Rockcret' on him and dashes it up the side of Dredds ed.
But u know what saves him?
Thats right.
His big massive helmet!
Pretty sure you'll find it plays out something like that. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 February, 2012, 05:36:44 PM
I can totally understand it from a narrative point of view - recasting MC1 as a hellish slum and the judges as far less powerful and Orwellian is shorthand - you don't have to explain or justify why Dredd and the judges are necessary. If things were presented exactly as they are in the comics, the audience would probably come away thinking Dredd was the just as bad as the villains - fine if that's the sort of story you're going for, but perhaps unwise for the first film.

The vibe they're going for appears to be that the judges just barely keep a lid of things and are somewhat understaffed and desperate.

Quotethe begining of Dredd, does it has a scroll or voice over to explain things ,or is it just left open?

The script starts with [spoiler]a view of the Cursed Earth and a passage explaining the setup - don't know whether this will be done as a v/o or text crawl - text I'd imagine.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 14 February, 2012, 06:49:59 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 14 February, 2012, 05:36:00 PM
So Dredd,Yeah. Sees this guy on the 'Pedway' acting like 'Ten men'. Give'n it 'All that' to randoms as they pass by for no good reason.
So he goes, 'Oy! Dick'ed! Any more of that shit an I'll come over there and fuckin knock u out'.
Guy goes, 'Fuckoff! U fink ur a fuckin Bad Man with all that leather an ya big daft fuckin 'at'.
So Dredd,Yeah, Proper sees is arse and goes 'Right twat,It's fuckin 'On' now'.
Steams over to him and fuckin 'Blaps' him one right in the temple with his fist.
OOOF!!!.
Guys like 'WTF!!!'.
Dredds like, 'That'll fukin learn ya'.
Guys only got a massive piece of 'Rockcret' on him and dashes it up the side of Dredds ed.
But u know what saves him?
Thats right.
His big massive helmet!
Pretty sure you'll find it plays out something like that. :)

Are you on some kind of experimental medication? :|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 14 February, 2012, 06:52:41 PM
Hey moderator, Radiator was giving me the answer.No detail required but scroll or voice over cant really be a secret can it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 February, 2012, 06:59:05 PM
I put the spoiler on - tend to be cautious because some people really don't want to know info like that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 14 February, 2012, 07:09:05 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 14 February, 2012, 06:49:59 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 14 February, 2012, 05:36:00 PM
So Dredd,Yeah. Sees this guy on the 'Pedway' acting like 'Ten men'. Give'n it 'All that' to randoms as they pass by for no good reason.
So he goes, 'Oy! Dick'ed! Any more of that shit an I'll come over there and fuckin knock u out'.
Guy goes, 'Fuckoff! U fink ur a fuckin Bad Man with all that leather an ya big daft fuckin 'at'.
So Dredd,Yeah, Proper sees is arse and goes 'Right twat,It's fuckin 'On' now'.
Steams over to him and fuckin 'Blaps' him one right in the temple with his fist.
OOOF!!!.
Guys like 'WTF!!!'.
Dredds like, 'That'll fukin learn ya'.
Guys only got a massive piece of 'Rockcret' on him and dashes it up the side of Dredds ed.
But u know what saves him?
Thats right.
His big massive helmet!
Pretty sure you'll find it plays out something like that. :)

Are you on some kind of experimental medication? :|

Lol. Helps me avoid 'The One Show' ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 14 February, 2012, 07:21:16 PM
 :D ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 14 February, 2012, 07:33:26 PM
Havin said that! Tonights episode does have a dog who can use a cash point on it. Either that or I'm trippin my arse off again! ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 14 February, 2012, 07:34:30 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 14 February, 2012, 04:59:15 AM
http://img258.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=194624296_262_122_214lo.jpg
Could someone kill the link with the hot tub. Some live link sex chat is piggybacking it. The image has been here before with the same results.
Its livejasmin.com I got some tanned babe gyrating her groin at my monitor. Luckily the kids are in bed.




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 14 February, 2012, 07:48:25 PM
Brilliant!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 14 February, 2012, 07:55:27 PM
I am not kidding. I would have been pissed off if Robbie had been with me. I did watch for five mins just to make sure.




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 14 February, 2012, 08:03:14 PM
Is this more leaked showreel stuff from the movie then!  :o :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 February, 2012, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: radiator on 14 February, 2012, 05:36:44 PM
I can totally understand it from a narrative point of view - recasting MC1 as a hellish slum and the judges as far less powerful and Orwellian is shorthand

[spoiler]As far as I know there are references in the script to other parts of the city that aren't particularly slums -there might be a Resyk too-[/spoiler] so it may not be that different from the comic Mega-City-One and, as a post-nuke city, it's less of a stretch of believability by revealing this side more prominently in the first film.



Quote from: wonkychop on 14 February, 2012, 12:46:53 PM
I've always tended to associate Dredd with satire, even the most violent parts. It seems the film is going to be different, darker.


Satire ain't only about being funny or the ridiculous, it can can contain exaggeration, juxtaposition, comparison, analogy etc. The whole set-up in Dredd could easily be seen as a satire on certain cryptofascist/authoritarian tendencies that dwell within the American/British establishment, or anywhere else if you like.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 14 February, 2012, 08:29:46 PM
Just had my ear to the BBC radio1 and caught the tail end of an interview Zane Lowe was doing. Did'nt get the band name only that they were involved in a 2000ad related sound track 'Drokk!' I think the band are called the Quarkers but I might be wrong. Any possible relation to the Movie ?!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 February, 2012, 08:37:45 PM
It's the bloke from Portishead's side project. Nothing to do with the film afaik.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 February, 2012, 08:38:08 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 14 February, 2012, 08:29:46 PM
Just had my ear to the BBC radio1 and caught the tail end of an interview Zane Lowe was doing. Did'nt get the band name only that they were involved in a 2000ad related sound track 'Drokk!' I think the band are called the Quarkers but I might be wrong. Any possible relation to the Movie ?!!


No it's a side project by Geoff Barrow of Portishead influenced by Mega-City-one:

http://www.invada.co.uk/geoff-barrow-2012-compilation
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 14 February, 2012, 08:42:35 PM
Cheers chaps . . . I'am now enlightened. I was a fan of Portishead way back and will have to checkout  some of the their new stuff based on this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 February, 2012, 09:02:21 PM
Their most recent album, Third, is very good actually. Has a very bleak sound to it - a sort of haunting, World in Action theme tune vibe, especially the closing minutes of Machine Gun.

Funnily enough, I've been listening to the track We Carry On recently, thinking an instrumental version of it would probably suit the new Dredd film quite well - very grungy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft8-_W2Jc6M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft8-_W2Jc6M)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 February, 2012, 09:15:30 PM
Quote from: radiator on 14 February, 2012, 09:02:21 PMFunnily enough, I've been listening to the track We Carry On recently, thinking an instrumental version of it would probably suit the new Dredd film quite well - very grungy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft8-_W2Jc6M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft8-_W2Jc6M)


It's a bit too undynamic and upfront sounding for incidental music, it could be quite irritating and wouldn't go well under scenes except as background music in a club scene. Has a bit of an early Joy Division sound to the guitar.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 14 February, 2012, 09:16:46 PM
Listen to the 'Threads' mate. It's got this amazin bit right @ the end. Would love to hear that live. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 14 February, 2012, 09:50:57 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 14 February, 2012, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 14 February, 2012, 12:46:53 PM
I've always tended to associate Dredd with satire, even the most violent parts. It seems the film is going to be different, darker.

Satire ain't only about being funny or the ridiculous, it can can contain exaggeration, juxtaposition, comparison, analogy etc. The whole set-up in Dredd could easily be seen as a satire on certain cryptofascist/authoritarian tendencies that dwell within the American/British establishment, or anywhere else if you like.

I know. Gullivers Travels is a great example of satire. Some, but not all, of comic Dredd, puts the word laughter into slaughter. To do this on the big screen takes guts. The film is going to be altogether more sombre in atmosphere; a couple of guys on here have referenced the Mandroid and America stories as being serious unironic Dredd, are there other stories which have divested themselves of the more frivolous aspects of a Dredd narrative?



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 14 February, 2012, 09:52:29 PM
The Chief Judge's man?

Not many laughs in that as I recall.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 14 February, 2012, 10:00:11 PM
Whats the one where Dredd ends up defending that block full of Muties?
It's relentless all the way.
he just marches through it wastin every motherfucker who's attackin it.
Runnin out of rounds until he has to use daft stuff like 'incendries'.
Then after it's over he gets on his bike with a smoldering half toppled block behind him and control patch through that some knob head has stuff himself into a garbage grinder.
And he just fucks off to deal with it.
Absolute class.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 14 February, 2012, 10:40:01 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 14 February, 2012, 09:50:57 PM
a couple of guys on here have referenced the Mandroid and America stories as being serious unironic Dredd, are there other stories which have divested themselves of the more frivolous aspects of a Dredd narrative?

It might have laced comedy but I don't think America lacked irony!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 14 February, 2012, 11:01:54 PM
Quote from: radiator on 14 February, 2012, 03:49:59 PM
Going back to an earlier discussion about how best to implement Judge Death in the grittier, more realistic version of Dredd 2012...

How about fusing the character with that of Cal?

An insane - possibly mutant with latent powers comaparable with Anderson's - head of the SJS, stages an internal coup within Justice Department and begins a policy of executing mass swathes of the population, gaining the nickname Death, while Dredd and Anderson lead a counter-insurgency...

As the baddies would be a twisted version of the SJS, these 'Dark Judges' would all have Judge Death-like skull insignia on their judge uniforms.


That would make a fantastic plot for a sequel. Most definitely; costume and scenery could be a little more elaborate to evoke the sense of doom and madness. It would contrast well with this first film whose emphasis seems to be on urban warfare.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 14 February, 2012, 11:21:44 PM
I was thinking about a sequel the other day, and I must admit I would love for it to be set in the cursed earth.

Whereas Anderson is Dredd's opposite in this film, I was thinking Koburn could be his opposite in the sequel.

Base the plot on Pat Mills' cursed earth story and bits of Origins, and this would make up for the lack of 'real' mutants in the reboot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 February, 2012, 11:25:42 PM
Judging by the background vehicles, I guess this is from the last scene in the film, affirmatively ending with the ^above^ 80's freeze-frame as Sweet Freedom by Michael mcDonald swells in the background.



(http://img258.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-22968/loc214/194624296_262_122_214lo.jpg)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 14 February, 2012, 11:53:47 PM
Image is not showing, Joe.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 February, 2012, 11:55:51 PM
I gots no problem.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 15 February, 2012, 12:04:20 AM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 14 February, 2012, 10:00:11 PM
Whats the one where Dredd ends up defending that block full of Muties?
It's relentless all the way.
he just marches through it wastin every motherfucker who's attackin it.
Runnin out of rounds until he has to use daft stuff like 'incendries'.
Then after it's over he gets on his bike with a smoldering half toppled block behind him and control patch through that some knob head has stuff himself into a garbage grinder.
And he just fucks off to deal with it.
Absolute class.

Mutopia or was that the hostage one. Hmm.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 12:09:27 AM
"Mutie Block" John Wagner.


"Mutopia" Al Ewing.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 15 February, 2012, 12:19:25 AM
Thanks for that JOE :) I got the Mutie bit right !  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 15 February, 2012, 02:11:12 AM
Looks like its doing the rounds again.

[spoiler]SCOJ0S[/spoiler] MOVIE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PtjafkaxM04)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 15 February, 2012, 02:14:40 AM
Cant edit my posts! Sheesh

HE WHO WILL NOT BE NAMED - HIS MOVIE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtjafkaxM04&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 15 February, 2012, 02:19:39 AM
Quote from: wonkychop on 14 February, 2012, 11:01:54 PM
Quote from: radiator on 14 February, 2012, 03:49:59 PM
Going back to an earlier discussion about how best to implement Judge Death in the grittier, more realistic version of Dredd 2012...

How about fusing the character with that of Cal?

An insane - possibly mutant with latent powers comaparable with Anderson's - head of the SJS, stages an internal coup within Justice Department and begins a policy of executing mass swathes of the population, gaining the nickname Death, while Dredd and Anderson lead a counter-insurgency...

As the baddies would be a twisted version of the SJS, these 'Dark Judges' would all have Judge Death-like skull insignia on their judge uniforms.


That would make a fantastic plot for a sequel. Most definitely; costume and scenery could be a little more elaborate to evoke the sense of doom and madness. It would contrast well with this first film whose emphasis seems to be on urban warfare.

Sounds completely wank.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 15 February, 2012, 04:36:55 AM
Quote from: radiator on 14 February, 2012, 04:59:47 PM
I love the ECTB2000AD podcast review/dissection of the Stallone Dredd movie - I've listened to it at least three times now. Alec Worley is so great on it, he sounds like he's in physical pain just talking about the film.

Got a link to that radiator dude, I'd love to give it a butchers meself...?

Quote from: Misanthrope on 14 February, 2012, 11:21:44 PM
I was thinking about a sequel the other day, and I must admit I would love for it to be set in the cursed earth.
Whereas Anderson is Dredd's opposite in this film, I was thinking Koburn could be his opposite in the sequel.
Base the plot on Pat Mills' cursed earth story and bits of Origins, and this would make up for the lack of 'real' mutants in the reboot.

I hope Alex Garland goes with his original inception for Dredd for the sequel, and have Judge Death in it, but don't ask me how they'll present him in a credible and convincing way - one idea I had was have Death travel back through time (rather than another dimension) from a desolate and ravaged MC-1 in the future, proclaiming the city is to be judged now rather than continue to it's inevitable downfall years later - whilst the third Dredd movie would be an adaptation of The Apocalypse War , wherein the Big Meg is threatened with annihilation (the very destruction Death was referencing in the second movie, thereby tying the films together) by another mega-city, with Dredd leading the counter-attack through the Cursed Earth, with Mean Machine Angel employed as their guide through the wasteland, but Mean's family are also tracking Dredd's team with the intent of rescuing their bro' and killing the lawmen...just an idea...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 15 February, 2012, 08:13:08 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 12:09:27 AM
"Mutie Block" John Wagner.


Thats the one. Cheers Joe. Doesn't hurt that its all Kev Walker art too. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 15 February, 2012, 09:25:12 AM
Quote from: W. R. Logan on 15 February, 2012, 02:19:39 AM
Quote from: wonkychop on 14 February, 2012, 11:01:54 PM
Quote from: radiator on 14 February, 2012, 03:49:59 PM
Going back to an earlier discussion about how best to implement Judge Death in the grittier, more realistic version of Dredd 2012...

How about fusing the character with that of Cal?

An insane - possibly mutant with latent powers comaparable with Anderson's - head of the SJS, stages an internal coup within Justice Department and begins a policy of executing mass swathes of the population, gaining the nickname Death, while Dredd and Anderson lead a counter-insurgency...

As the baddies would be a twisted version of the SJS, these 'Dark Judges' would all have Judge Death-like skull insignia on their judge uniforms.


That would make a fantastic plot for a sequel. Most definitely; costume and scenery could be a little more elaborate to evoke the sense of doom and madness. It would contrast well with this first film whose emphasis seems to be on urban warfare.

Sounds completely wank.

eh?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 February, 2012, 09:45:21 AM
QuoteGot a link to that radiator dude, I'd love to give it a butchers meself...?

You should be able to find it on ITunes fairly easily. Just try a few searches in the podcast section in the iTunes store - try 'everything comes back to 2000ad'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 February, 2012, 09:53:51 AM
Beaky Smoooch you'll find it here:  http://ecbt2000ad.libsyn.com/webpage/page/3   
It's Podcast number 51 and it's about 2 hrs long.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 15 February, 2012, 10:04:49 AM
The trouble with Judge Death and time travel Beaky is that you're getting into the realms of pure fairy tale.
Works well in a comic, on film, looks a bit old hat.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 February, 2012, 11:30:10 AM
I dunno.. Worked for back to the future..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 15 February, 2012, 11:45:31 AM
it may be old hat but its still popular

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/time-travel/?sort=release_date&start=1000
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 15 February, 2012, 12:23:25 PM
Is anyone else finding it pretty contradictory how people*, are saying everything has to be canon in the 2012 Dredd, moan that its not, but then a few pages later are also deciding that time travel and Death (for instance) should have no place in the movie ?

* I'm generalising btw, not aimed at individuals before someone goes off on one ;-)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 15 February, 2012, 12:40:04 PM
I'll reiterate. In the comic strip there is room for ghosts one week, time travel the next. For a film being released to a general audience it has to make up it's mind whether it's going to be a story about future criminality and the methods of the state to repress this, or a fantasy about time travel/ghosts. Too much mixing of genres is going to confuse a general audience as to the premise of the film; that's what's wrong with the first one, it's too much of a mish mash of ideas.

Science Fiction films as a whole are starting to look out of date. Why? Monitoring and surveillance of citizens is a fact. So is genetic engineering and control through drugs and mass media. Also the weaponry used by the state. Communications have become science fact. The only thing they haven't come up with is a cure for kansyr.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 15 February, 2012, 12:43:07 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 15 February, 2012, 12:23:25 PM
Is anyone else finding it pretty contradictory how people*, are saying everything has to be canon in the 2012 Dredd, moan that its not, but then a few pages later are also deciding that time travel and Death (for instance) should have no place in the movie ?

* I'm generalising btw, not aimed at individuals before someone goes off on one ;-)

So individuals are not allowed to recant or change their views after rational debate on a subject?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 15 February, 2012, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 15 February, 2012, 12:23:25 PM
Is anyone else finding it pretty contradictory how people*, are saying everything has to be canon in the 2012 Dredd, moan that its not, but then a few pages later are also deciding that time travel and Death (for instance) should have no place in the movie ?

* I'm generalising btw, not aimed at individuals before someone goes off on one ;-)
Quote from: wonkychop on 14 February, 2012, 11:01:54 PM
Quote from: radiator on 14 February, 2012, 03:49:59 PM
Going back to an earlier discussion about how best to implement Judge Death in the grittier, more realistic version of Dredd 2012...

How about fusing the character with that of Cal?

An insane - possibly mutant with latent powers comaparable with Anderson's - head of the SJS, stages an internal coup within Justice Department and begins a policy of executing mass swathes of the population, gaining the nickname Death, while Dredd and Anderson lead a counter-insurgency...

As the baddies would be a twisted version of the SJS, these 'Dark Judges' would all have Judge Death-like skull insignia on their judge uniforms.


That would make a fantastic plot for a sequel. Most definitely; costume and scenery could be a little more elaborate to evoke the sense of doom and madness. It would contrast well with this first film whose emphasis seems to be on urban warfare.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 15 February, 2012, 12:53:32 PM
Well, as far as I'm concerned it would only take one scene of Dredd walking into the vaults of Justice Dept and visiting a PSi tech lab experimenting on dimensional shifts to introduce a supernatural/ time travel element to the world.
Bond gets away with it every time he visits Q, doesn't he?

Isnt the greatness of Dredd the fact that it IS a multi-verse world anyway? get rid of that wealth of material, and you are left with a cops-n-robber film, period.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 15 February, 2012, 01:01:35 PM
I think thats great for people who know Dredd but for those who see Dredd for the first couple of movies (grud willing there will be more after this) then a sequential shift into the more outlandish areas from the comic would have to come later.

Establish the anti hero, his world, the system, the inhabitants of that world in the first two movies and then divert into other realms.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 15 February, 2012, 01:02:53 PM
In the comics the multiveresal Dredd works very well. A film is only two hours long, it has to be condensed radically from the comic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 15 February, 2012, 01:03:17 PM
Oh and personally if I had a wish list if there were going to be time travel or dimensional shift inspired films Id like to see a Batman - Dredd crossover.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 15 February, 2012, 01:05:05 PM
It's nice we are all talking about a sequel and are all positive about DREDD making enough for this to happen.  So down to the nuts and bolts of Death appearing in Dredd2 or 3.  Would it be full CGI for this or Peter Crouch made up heavily in prosthetic's ;-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buddy on 15 February, 2012, 02:09:05 PM
No... It will be Hugo Weaving for Death... to fulfill his 'appear in every film ever made' mission.

"Mrs. Anderssssooon... we've missssssed you....."

I can't see supernatural elements fitting into this vision of Dredd... lets hope there is a follow up to DREDD to find out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 February, 2012, 02:15:01 PM

Just hope the sequel will be remake of 1995 "Judge Dredd" plot?



*Quickly get my coat, ran off*  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 15 February, 2012, 02:26:14 PM
A Rico plot done properly would be very welcome.  More than a Dark Judges one.

I'd like Urban to play Rico in the flashbacks might not matter once he is post Titan...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 February, 2012, 02:30:56 PM
What about Peter Stormare as Death?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 February, 2012, 02:31:58 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 15 February, 2012, 02:30:56 PM
What about Peter Stormare as Death?

He is best Devil ever!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 15 February, 2012, 02:33:24 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 15 February, 2012, 01:05:05 PM
It's nice we are all talking about a sequel and are all positive about DREDD making enough for this to happen.  So down to the nuts and bolts of Death appearing in Dredd2 or 3.  Would it be full CGI for this or Peter Crouch made up heavily in prosthetic's ;-)

I see GREG STAPLES has commented on his FBook page that there is a (proposed?) Frankenstein film, where The Monster is pegged to be Motion-capture. It'd be a great shame not to use an actor for Death- in whatever form of plot- as I think its one character where full CGI would be a shame. Two Faces makeup would be a good example of a good blend of methods, however.
Maybe 'Death' as we know and love him could be a result of a dimension jump gone wrong for instance.


The longer the supernatural side of Dredd's world is put off though, the harder it would be to introduce. I recon anybody willing to go and see Dredd would be happy to accept Dredds world for what it is- it just needs a decent script.
Get it wrong and yes, you will have a Bobby Ewing in the shower feeling over it all, get it right and you are well away.

I think two good ways to discuss the reality Vs comic world of Dredd is to consider how, or if, they should use 'Boing' in the film(s).
Not to mention good' ol Chopper on a Hover board- esp if they have already used his tag.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 15 February, 2012, 02:33:48 PM
Quote from: Buddy on 15 February, 2012, 02:09:05 PM
No... It will be Hugo Weaving for Death... to fulfill his 'appear in every film ever made' mission.

"Mrs. Anderssssooon... we've missssssed you....."

I can't see supernatural elements fitting into this vision of Dredd... lets hope there is a follow up to DREDD to find out.
:-)
I'll admit Weaving does look good wearing a skull a-la the red skull,  so he's halfway there for representing Death.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 15 February, 2012, 02:39:10 PM
I think Radiator had a good idea when he seggested condensing Cal and Death into one character. Then you could incorporate the madness of Cal with JUdge Death. Maybe by having Cal somehow or other physically deformed so he resembles Judge Death in physical appearance, add a few touches of decay and decadence to Mega City and the characters in it.....who knows.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 February, 2012, 02:42:24 PM

Better way is rogue PSI judge gone bit crazy so became "Judge Death"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 February, 2012, 02:45:30 PM
Quote from: Buddy on 15 February, 2012, 02:09:05 PM
"Mrs. Anderssssooon... we've missssssed you....."


That's MS. thank-you-very-much..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 February, 2012, 02:47:08 PM
I remember someone suggesting Iggy Pop for the role of Judge Death, which would be amazing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 15 February, 2012, 02:50:33 PM
All spot on suggestions so far and l would be happy to see any of them in a sequel
but hasn't Garland set up a way of introducing Death in DREDD.  I haven't read the script and heard mention from a source that escapes me  that a ....

*****potential SPOILER ALERT!*****

a Cult of Death is introduced in the new movie? !
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 February, 2012, 02:57:00 PM
As for the version of 'reality' that exists in the movie Dredd world, I get the impression that the supernatural/technological/extraterrestrial elements are being played down (much as they were in the 1995 film), but it all depends on what the tone of the final film is like.

They could just introduce Death as an alien superfiend, and it could work fine - who knows? They already have a psychic mutant in this film (Anderson), so there certainly are some supernatural elements present in this world.

I remember the director Jon Favreau expressing concern/skepticism when they announced the plans for The Avengers, because he had seen the world that his Iron Man is set in as not too far removed from our own, and hadn't conceived of things like aliens and Norse Gods sharing the screen with his version of Tony Stark.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 15 February, 2012, 03:00:32 PM
No reason this film can't go for gritty realism and a later one have an undead dimension hopper in it.

If Death ever is in a sequel I want him to be as per the comic.  An undead dimension hopping nutter.  I don't want to see him in the first sequel, Dredd 3 or later.

Two or mor films after bring him back with his buddies - or (getting way ahead of myself) a Judge Death spin off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 February, 2012, 03:03:37 PM
I just hope that if that's what they do, they don't start piling on the villains a la Spiderman.. That ruins it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 15 February, 2012, 03:07:04 PM
An undead dimension hopper? It would be like Dredd meets Dr Who meets flesheating zombies. Good on paper, difficult to pull off on the big screen without it looking like a Mel Brooks production.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 15 February, 2012, 03:14:06 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 15 February, 2012, 03:03:37 PM
I just hope that if that's what they do, they don't start piling on the villains a la Spiderman.. That ruins it.
Fully agree, that is exactly why I wouldn't want it in the next film. Just some naughty Cits or Mutants or Rico, etc.

I'd rather see a film version of Cursed Earth to Judge Death (unless it was a spin off and they can do Death fully hardcore Deathy).  Obviously a Cursed Earth film would have almost none of the comic version in - or it would be 26 films long...  But plot that would work:
Bio-plague released in Mega City 2 by terrorists.
Dredd leads a rescue mission.
Spikes Harvey Rotten (who was in Film 2... lol) is recruited as a guide.
Meet Tweak - Alien Slavers.
Attacked by wardroids from Judges Vs President.

Quote from: wonkychop on 15 February, 2012, 03:07:04 PM
An undead dimension hopper? It would be like Dredd meets Dr Who meets flesheating zombies. Good on paper, difficult to pull off on the big screen without it looking like a Mel Brooks production.

But that is what he is.  Do, or do not.  No point rewriting Death as anything else.  If they don't think it will work I'd rather they never touched on Judge Death at all.

That would make a film that has lots of elements from the original but remains possible in a real world, so long as it has homicidal robots & aliens.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 15 February, 2012, 03:24:01 PM
It's too over the top for the big screen BatKing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 15 February, 2012, 03:26:10 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 15 February, 2012, 03:24:01 PM
It's too over the top for the big screen BatKing.
Why? Things like Suckerpunch get made.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 15 February, 2012, 03:27:27 PM
If they think they won't make it. Simple.  I'm not saying they have to do it, just that if they don't respect the source material simply don't use the character.

I don't particularly want a film with Judge Death in.  I want it less if it isn't done right.

Quote from: James Stacey on 15 February, 2012, 03:26:10 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 15 February, 2012, 03:24:01 PM
It's too over the top for the big screen BatKing.
Why? Things like Suckerpunch get made.

And many other films...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 February, 2012, 03:28:44 PM
I can totally understand the 'Do it like the comic or don't bother' but there are aspects of Death which would look a bit hokey on film (even more so in the DNA world)

I could see it working if they go along the possession line - so you have some CERN/Dimension Lab monkeying about and something comes back, possessing a judge.

No Pterodactyls on shoulders, but physical manifestation of possession on the host, capable of immense strength, punching through bodies etc, maybe infecting citizens to be murderous/suicidal, in a similar vein to Day of Chaos.

Could possibly have subliminal flashes of something closer to the comic death when he takes someone over...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 15 February, 2012, 03:32:46 PM
sequel  based on the apocalypse war,

then if it gets to a third film, Judge death, a  PSI Judge traumatized by the war and becomes  disfigured/mutated by the nuclear fallout and goes on sentencing those who survive(some sort survivors guilt or something)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 15 February, 2012, 03:32:52 PM
Judge Dredd is a niche market anyway. Having Judge Death is only going to appeal to 2000ad fans, a general audience would find it a bit too avant garde if not downright silly for Dredd to be chasing apparitions for two hours. Like I've said, Radiator's was the best idea - conflate the characters Judge Cal and Judge Death into one. Add in the themes of power, madness and mass murder, something a general audience can believe in.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 15 February, 2012, 03:37:06 PM
A film version would clearly have to drop something... No film adaptation is likely to ever be completely loyal to source.  But the basics need to be there or it is pointless.  So yeah, uniform isn't essential.  But a possesiony spirit thing is.  But spirits don't fit into 'gritty realism' in the first place for most people.

Quote from: wonkychop on 15 February, 2012, 03:32:52 PM
Judge Dredd is a niche market anyway. Having Judge Death is only going to appeal to 2000ad fans, a general audience would find it a bit too avant garde if not downright silly for Dredd to be chasing apparitions for two hours. Like I've said, Radiator's was the best idea - conflate the characters Judge Cal and Judge Death into one. Add in the themes of power, madness and mass murder, something a general audience can believe in.

I've said many times... earlier in this thread I am sure as well as today...  I don't particularly want Judge Death...  You are preaching to the choir not convincing me.  You don't seem to be reading the full intent of my posts.

I'm being cautionary saying 'not before 3' not saying 'Oh boy I want Death in 3!!!' - Can't see how that meaning could even be read into what I've said.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 February, 2012, 03:37:49 PM
Honest, the Dredd film aimed for a darker and more realistic tone, with humanity and realism being the basis of the film, with Mega-City in Cursed Earth. Better for film if stick to realistic, and give it very interesting. Just leave the Sci-fi, Aliens, fantasy to the comics.

As my best stories of Dredd so far?

Block Mania
The Apocalypse war
America
The Pit
Total War
Mandroid

and those were realistic-style stories!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 15 February, 2012, 03:39:48 PM
Can see those working.

Of course the best way to go might be original! Write stories that simply fit the character and setting. That is easy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 February, 2012, 03:43:03 PM
QuoteI can totally understand the 'Do it like the comic or don't bother' but there are aspects of Death which would look a bit hokey on film (even more so in the DNA world)

Yes, I agree with that. Not many are saying that Nolan shouldn't make any more Batman films because he deviates from the source material (no aliens, nothing supernatural, no Robin or Batgirl etc etc). It's perfectly possible to remain faithful to the spirit of the comics while doing your own thing with it - the 'like the comics or nothing' brigade seem quite naive/blinkered to me.


QuoteCould possibly have subliminal flashes of something closer to the comic death when he takes someone over...

Yeah, I thought perhaps something similar to how the Scarecrow gas works visually in Batman Begins - the character of Death psychically projects an image which looks closer to the comic version of the character. They could do some really cool Chris Cunningham/Aphex Twin style visuals with it.

Quote
I've said many times... earlier in this thread I am sure as well as today...  I don't particularly want Judge Death...  You are preaching to the choir not convincing me.  You don't seem to be reading the full intent of my posts.

Same here - personally I think there's far more interesting avenues to explore than the Judge Death storyline, but

a) He's by far Dredd's most famous villain - he's basically Joker to Dredd's Batman for better or worse.

b) That seems to be the direction they're going in, so I'm just specualting as to how they might do it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 15 February, 2012, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: radiator on 15 February, 2012, 03:43:03 PM
QuoteI can totally understand the 'Do it like the comic or don't bother' but there are aspects of Death which would look a bit hokey on film (even more so in the DNA world)

Yes, I agree with that. Not many are saying that Nolan shouldn't make any more Batman films because he deviates from the source material (no aliens, nothing supernatural, no Robin or Batgirl etc etc). It's perfectly possible to remain faithful to the spirit of the comics while doing your own thing with it - the 'like the comics or nothing' brigade seem quite naive/blinkered to me.


QuoteCould possibly have subliminal flashes of something closer to the comic death when he takes someone over...

Yeah, I thought perhaps something similar to how the Scarecrow gas works visually in Batman Begins - the character of Death psychically projects an image which looks closer to the comic version of the character. They could do some really cool Chris Cunningham/Aphex Twin style visuals with it.

Quote
I've said many times... earlier in this thread I am sure as well as today...  I don't particularly want Judge Death...  You are preaching to the choir not convincing me.  You don't seem to be reading the full intent of my posts.

Same here - personally I think there's far more interesting avenues to explore than the Judge Death storyline, but

a) He's by far Dredd's most famous villain - he's basically Joker to Dredd's Batman for better or worse.

b) That seems to be the direction they're going in, so I'm just specualting as to how they might do it.

Well put throughout, Radiator.

And your final point is exactly why I post about the possibility of Death being in. My preference would be - don't use Judge Death in Judge Dredd.  However Judge Death as a spin off, never used in the Dredd titles, that works.  They can do it anywhere between Gritty and Wacky.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 February, 2012, 03:51:31 PM
He's also a villain that hasn't been done in the Stallone film.

I don't think the possession aspect is too much of a leap, no more than a psychic is.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 February, 2012, 03:55:21 PM
Apparently Death was due to appear in the proposed sequel to the Stallone film, which again I find weird. It would have jarred, tonally, for me to introduce that sort of thing when there's nothing remotely like that in the original.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 15 February, 2012, 04:01:37 PM
Quotewhen there's nothing remotely like that in the original.

I dunno, that codpiece was pretty scary.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 15 February, 2012, 04:31:07 PM
Supernatural elements can, (if you know what you're doing), work better against a realistic backdrop and film-makers usually completely mess things up when they attempt to rationalize or play down the more outlandish elements of a story when adapting it.

Making him a creature from another dimension "where the laws of physics are different to our own" or somesuch would be good enough for me. You could also then have Dredd being all in-charactery sceptical/skeptical about Anderson's completely mental sounding 'ghosts turning people into zombie' visions 'til he sees it for himself.

Pterodactyl is a bit much, but that could easily be dealt with by toning it down into a design on a shoulder pad much like film Dredd's.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 15 February, 2012, 04:50:19 PM
Death would work better in a cartoon spinoff ,It would be a huge gamble.They would have to commit 100% and not wimp out,play it straight,dark,full on horror with the dimension hopping.
I just think Death would look a bit daft done live

The terror angle would work better.

Midnight Surfer and Total War or America mixture would be cool.
Chopper as the face of freedom with Dredd as his polar opposite and Total War going nuts in the middle causing all sorts of shit to the back drop of Supersurf 7.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 15 February, 2012, 04:58:28 PM
I'm still holding out for a sequel featuring Karl Heinz Pilchards-in-Tomato-Sauce Clayderman.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 15 February, 2012, 05:05:02 PM
Thinkin the inclusion of Anderson in the film is possibly to give a sequel a way to do a plausible introduction to Death?
Hopefully a sequel with a bigger budget would allow a 'Motion Capture' Death as proposed earlier.
That would be a great way to do Death IMO.
Maybe in a Ridley Scott 'Alien-esq' way.
Can just imagine those 'Tomb Stone' teeth being revealed as his his lips peel back into that terrifying rictus grin
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 February, 2012, 05:18:40 PM
Just on the notion of America ever being filmed:

The problem with 'America' as a film is that, although it is one of the more mature stories, it is bound completely to the strengths of the medium of comics. The ambiguity (of the gender) of the narrative voice, ( which in the comic is read rather than heard) is key to the story's success. The 'reveal' is dependent upon that voice speaking to an audience in a way that is neutral: neither male nor female nor freakily in between. Despite it's maturity, I reckon that 'America', of all the Dredd stories, is the one that would transfer least well... it's also practically a musical! 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 February, 2012, 05:20:32 PM
QuoteThey would have to commit 100% and not wimp out,play it straight,dark,full on horror with the dimension hopping.

I don't agree. Look at Ras Al Ghul in the Batman comics vs Batman Begins. In the comics he's very camp-looking and immortal - in the film a suave and effective villain, and is done without a hint of the supernatural.

Shows that a character can very successfully be toned down to suit a grittier, more realistic tone.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 15 February, 2012, 05:22:07 PM
Whenever Judge Death and the more unusual elements of the Dredd universe are brought up we get the "It'll never work" comments. The truth is depending on the version of reality that's established in the first movie at this point its all up for grabs. [spoiler]By the way  Anderson being a Psychic can in the script to my recollection enter anyone's mind and create any random visualisation. Which opens up the possibility that[/spoiler] if Judge Death is in  the sequel represented as a character like Judge Cal as was suggested earlier, The Judge death that we all know will only exist in the minds of his victims. A possibility but I think maybe too close to Batman Begins and the scarecrow.

Like it or not Judge Death very probably going to be the subject of the sequel. I remember hearing in the early 2000s that rebellion were planning two Dredd movies and Death was always going to be in the sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 February, 2012, 05:23:45 PM
QuoteJust on the notion of America ever being filmed:

The problem with 'America' as a film is that, although it is one of the more mature stories, it is bound completely to the strengths of the medium of comics. The ambiguity (of the gender) of the narrative voice, ( which in the comic is read rather than heard) is key to the story's success. The 'reveal' is dependent upon that voice speaking to an audience in a way that is neutral: neither male nor female nor freakily in between. Despite it's maturity, I reckon that 'America', of all the Dredd stories, is the one that would transfer least well... it's also practically a musical! 

You're assuming that they would be filming an incredibly literal adaptation of America, which wouldn't happen for multiple reasons - the most obvious being that Dredd is hardly in it!

There's nothing to stop them loosely basing a film around it, or lifting elements from the story.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 February, 2012, 05:26:32 PM
Indeed. But the strength of that particular story, for me, has always been in the way it was told.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 15 February, 2012, 05:27:04 PM
Quote from: radiator on 15 February, 2012, 05:23:45 PM
QuoteJust on the notion of America ever being filmed:

The problem with 'America' as a film is that, although it is one of the more mature stories, it is bound completely to the strengths of the medium of comics. The ambiguity (of the gender) of the narrative voice, ( which in the comic is read rather than heard) is key to the story's success. The 'reveal' is dependent upon that voice speaking to an audience in a way that is neutral: neither male nor female nor freakily in between. Despite it's maturity, I reckon that 'America', of all the Dredd stories, is the one that would transfer least well... it's also practically a musical! 

You're assuming that they would be filming an incredibly literal adaptation of America, which wouldn't happen for multiple reasons - the most obvious being that Dredd is hardly in it!

There's nothing to stop them loosely basing a film around it, or lifting elements from the story.

Total war would work much Better in a franchise because its more action based but has similar subject matter.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 15 February, 2012, 05:31:19 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 15 February, 2012, 04:58:28 PM
I'm still holding out for a sequel featuring Karl Heinz Pilchards-in-Tomato-Sauce Clayderman.
LMAO!! and what a sequel that would make!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 February, 2012, 05:35:59 PM

I think Judge Death's  Dimension jumping brings too much futuristic tech into a parred down DREDD world. Maybe if they had him as the ultimate Judge, built by Justice dept to be an almost invulnerable street Judge before they perfected the cloning technique that brought more stable clones like Judge Dredd

After all Judge Death's dark justice is merely Judge Dredd's Law brought to it's logical conclusion.

Someone like Judge Orlok or a Criminal Syndicate of  Mega Cities organized crime gangs might be more appropriate. But let's see how the first Movie does before we start writing the sequels.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 15 February, 2012, 05:38:43 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 February, 2012, 05:35:59 PM
let's see how the first Movie does before we start writing the sequels.

I've almost finished writing mine.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 February, 2012, 06:36:25 PM
At the end of it all, reaction to the first film will largely determine how far they could go with a character like Death. If it's well recieved then they'll have a built-in audience who're at least partially aware of the character and pre-conditioned to accept the more wackier elements that come with him. I'd be surprised if he wasn't the number one villain on people's lips and I can't see there being much danger of jumping the shark.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 February, 2012, 06:47:51 PM
What frustrates me about movies sometimes are the wasted opportunities. I'm sure there are many people who would kill to have villains like the dark judges to play around with.

Not that some changes don't work for the better. It's just a little irritating when something unique gets watered down beyond all recognition.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 February, 2012, 07:04:38 PM
Quote from: Stan on 15 February, 2012, 06:47:51 PM
It's just a little irritating when something unique gets watered down beyond all recognition.

Its really just to appeal to a larger audience than the niche that still dwells in mothers basements. $$$$$$
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 15 February, 2012, 07:42:01 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 15 February, 2012, 03:37:49 PM
Honest, the Dredd film aimed for a darker and more realistic tone, with humanity and realism being the basis of the film, with Mega-City in Cursed Earth. Better for film if stick to realistic, and give it very interesting. Just leave the Sci-fi, Aliens, fantasy to the comics.

Yes. I think it will be an interesting take on Dredd, without the off the wall, avant garde, comic strip thrills. Looking forward to it.

Quote from: Lee Bates on 15 February, 2012, 04:58:28 PM
I'm still holding out for a sequel featuring Karl Heinz Pilchards-in-Tomato-Sauce Clayderman.
LMAO!! and what a sequel that would make![/quote]

Who'd write the film score for it though? Andrew Lloydd Webber? :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 February, 2012, 07:46:12 PM
Wow! Saucer of cream for table Michealvk!

Failure in life and obsession with a fictional character may often be found together, but they are by no means siamese twins. I cant speak for other Dredd obsessives, but I thought that the thing, perhaps the only thing, that we people on this here board got in common is a fascination and familiarity with these stories, these stories that in our childish imaginations were imprinted with a colour and depth that create an extra level of investment, an extra attachment to the hopes, fears and expectations of the upcoming film, ( that you worked on ) because the last celluloid outing was, for us, as someone on ecbt2000ad put it: "Like waking up on Christmas morning to find a Santa-suit with your father's corpse in it..."

I know I'm part of a niche, but I'm sure that most of this niche dwell overground: they're just a bit more into Judge Dredd than is explainable to those what aintsomuch.

I'm very greatful for your input, and if I took you up wrong,- I apologise.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 15 February, 2012, 08:09:05 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 15 February, 2012, 04:50:19 PM
The terror angle would work better.

Midnight Surfer and Total War or America mixture would be cool.
Chopper as the face of freedom with Dredd as his polar opposite and Total War going nuts in the middle causing all sorts of shit to the back drop of Supersurf 7.

Now that's the film I want to see! I don't want Judge Death for the reasons many have stated and I certainly don't want a corrupt/crazy chief judge (again.) Taking Dredd away from the justice dept always seems a  bit lazy to me, it's like some execs sit in an office and say:

Exec 1: "So, whut's this Dredd fella's motivation, what makes him tick?"
Exec 2: "The law, I think..."
Exec 1: "Well whuf if... That was all taken offa him..."

I like that the first film seems quite procedural and is focussing on one particular kind of futuristic crime. Good sci-fi doesn't always have to be too out there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Grimmyx22 on 15 February, 2012, 08:09:35 PM
Judge Death, hmmm. The outstanding element in the original Death stories was the fantastic interpretations of Mr Bolland. All subsequent tales have lacked the impact of the first two. Death as a character and concept seems to me to have worked so well simply as an outlandish branching off of the main thread of Dredd stories up until that date. A breath of fresh (foetid?) air from the norm. He has always been a very unlikely addition to the Dreddiverse and in my 'umble should be left WELL alone regards a movie version of mega city one. So much of the social and political examination of our future society has yet to be explored and to my mind provide a much more fruitfull and relevant storehouse of ideas than a simple 'anti-Dredd' character. Dredd has always seemed to me very much a cautionary tale regarding the forward-march of our own society. This seems to me to be the most logical and fertile territory for future Dredd movies. (Assuming we get so lucky).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 15 February, 2012, 08:14:40 PM
I have no real interest in seeing Bizarro Dredd on screen.

But Supersurf?!!? Oh by grud, yes please! 

That might actually make the 3D somewhat bearable  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 15 February, 2012, 08:18:41 PM
No hints as to what might come next @ the end of the leaked script?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 February, 2012, 08:20:19 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 15 February, 2012, 07:04:38 PM
Quote from: Stan on 15 February, 2012, 06:47:51 PM
It's just a little irritating when something unique gets watered down beyond all recognition.

Its really just to appeal to a larger audience than the niche that still dwells in mothers basements. $$$$$$

I'm on daylight strike until I see Necropolis transferred panel for panel to the silverscreen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Grimmyx22 on 15 February, 2012, 08:23:18 PM
I dont want to see movie versions of comics ive read, i want new, fresh explorations of all the avenues Mr Wagner has opened up for us. Long live Dredd!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 15 February, 2012, 08:31:01 PM
And yeah, so you do the Judge Death story... brilliant! That's the first ten minutes of the movie filled up! What's next?
The Dark Judges too? There's another hour tops, if you're lucky.

Death just isn't a strong enough or dare I say it, interesting enough, character to use in a movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 February, 2012, 08:34:22 PM
Hear! Hear!It was Bolland made him beautiful.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 08:42:07 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 15 February, 2012, 05:18:40 PM
Just on the notion of America ever being filmed:

The problem with 'America' as a film is that, although it is one of the more mature stories, it is bound completely to the strengths of the medium of comics. The ambiguity (of the gender) of the narrative voice, ( which in the comic is read rather than heard) is key to the story's success. The 'reveal' is dependent upon that voice speaking to an audience in a way that is neutral: neither male nor female nor freakily in between. Despite it's maturity, I reckon that 'America', of all the Dredd stories, is the one that would transfer least well... it's also practically a musical!


It would only conflict with the story if told from the aspect of a narrator which probably wouldn't be a 'device' adopted for a Dredd film anyway, at least not throughout. The story could equally be told from a different perspective and work just as powerfully.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 15 February, 2012, 08:43:26 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 15 February, 2012, 07:42:01 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 15 February, 2012, 03:37:49 PM
Honest, the Dredd film aimed for a darker and more realistic tone, with humanity and realism being the basis of the film, with Mega-City in Cursed Earth. Better for film if stick to realistic, and give it very interesting. Just leave the Sci-fi, Aliens, fantasy to the comics.

Yes. I think it will be an interesting take on Dredd, without the off the wall, avant garde, comic strip thrills. Looking forward to it.

Who'd write the film score for it though? Andrew Lloydd Webber? :D


Yes and while we're at it lets burn all copies of these films:

Superman
Alien, Aliens
Blade Runner
Big Trouble in Little China
The Thing
Terminator
Total Recall
Predator
Raiders of the lost Ark
Blade etc.. etc..

Because Fantastical Stuff taken seriously and executed professionally never - NEVER works on screen. Every film based on a comic franchise or a work of Sci-Fi fiction must explain everything away totally scientifically and leave no room for today's dumb-ass/ cynical audience to say "hey that doesn't happen in the real World".

All adaptations begin and end with The Dark Knight and there is no other way any other film could work if not made in the same 'real world'. There is no film maker more visionary than Christopher Nolan, who has perfected the art of Story telling on screen beyond any other Human being alive or dead.

:thumbsup:

 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Grimmyx22 on 15 February, 2012, 08:54:29 PM
The basic exaggerations and contrasts (similarities) of megacity with regards to 21st century civilisation, contain all that is needed to form a classic science fiction story in the true 2000ad style without resorting to strip derived gimmickary (mimicry) and dilution. Dredds world is an exiting and vibrant parody of modern living enough to make a slew of sequals with enough visual impact and social satire to make Robocop look like an episode of corrie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 February, 2012, 08:59:00 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 08:42:07 PM



It would only conflict with the story if told from the aspect of a narrator which probably wouldn't be a 'device' adopted for a Dredd film anyway, at least not throughout. The story could equally be told from a different perspective and work just as powerfully.

I cannot agree: again, for me, the power of that story comes from the way it's told: America, more than any other Dredd tale is pretty much dependant upon its narrator. That's the whole point of that story.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 February, 2012, 09:01:38 PM
QuoteYes and while we're at it lets burn all copies of these films:

Superman
Alien, Aliens
Blade Runner
Big Trouble in Little China
The Thing
Terminator
Total Recall
Predator
Raiders of the lost Ark
Blade etc.. etc..

Because Fantastical Stuff taken seriously and executed professionally never - NEVER works on screen. Every film based on a comic franchise or a work of Sci-Fi fiction must explain everything away totally scientifically and leave no room for today's dumb-ass/ cynical audience to say "hey that doesn't happen in the real World".

All adaptations begin and end with The Dark Knight and there is no other way any other film could work if not made in the same 'real world'. There is no film maker more visionary than Christopher Nolan, who has perfected the art of Story telling on screen beyond any other Human being alive or dead.

You're misreading the situation.

I think the majority of us would agree that it would be perfectly possible to put the wackier elements of Dredd's world up on screen, so long as it was consistent with the tone the filmmakers were trying to achieve.

If, for instance, they were making Dredd as a much more stylised film, with heavy use of cgi and prosthetics, you could go nuts with it - Judge Death, League of Fatties, whatever you wanted. That such a film would require a massive budget and would most likely tank at the box office is beside the point.

However, it's clear that they are going the dark, gritty, semi-realistic route, so those elements probably won't work in that context.

Also, your argument is flawed in any case because most of the films you mention have only one, perhaps two, outlandish elements so don't demand a big a suspension of disbelief, whereas with Dredd as it is in the comics, you're asking the audience to swallow a hell of a lot in one go - mutants, psychics, robots, all manner of aliens and supernatural phenomena.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 09:03:01 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 15 February, 2012, 08:31:01 PM
Death just isn't a strong enough or dare I say it, interesting enough, character to use in a movie.

That is the biggest problem, Death himself is empty, he is a one dimensional character from another dimension. The whole crux of why he exists as a foe for Dredd is metaphysical he represents Dredd's Law in extremis, the logical solution/conclusion to the crime problem forever and that's it, you get little else with Death. Fun for 20 minutes but not much meat on his cadaver. They would need to change the nature of the character somewhat to make hime interesting but with all the ready-made fully-developed characters in Dredd, why bother?

Considering the fact that Death hasn't been a significant presence or really any potent presence in a Dredd/2000AD story since Necropolis 21 years ago, I don't really see that Death is a necessary inclusion any more than the Angel Gang are. Many more long-lasting characters have superceded Death in Dredd & the big Meg. You could  argue P.J. Maybe is now Dredd's 'nemesis' -a serial killing ex-Mayor- since his story is far more interesting, long-lasting and current.

The point I believe is Dredd isn't Batman so really there's no need for him to have an arch-nemesis like the Joker. The Judges, the city and the citizens who dwell within it, are the interest.




The purposeful introduction/set-up of Anderson and PSI-powers in the first film may have an arc yet to be disclosed. If Anderson's a popular character, she'll likely be back, whether as a vessel for Death or as an instrument for the most intimate/invasive surveillance of the Mega-citizens -their minds- leading to Anderson's emotional upheaval. Either path is up for grabs.


Involving Anderson in an aspect of the infiltration of the democratic uprising including the inherent conflict of emotions she would endure from the empathic crushed ideals of the citizens and maybe going native as Dredd concurrently proceeds with his merciless crackdown on the Dems as portrayed in Letter from a Democrat, Revolution etc. would be an interesting way to go.

As pure fan-tasy it could lead to either of these ultimate conclusions: a combo of Twilights Last Gleaming/Total War/America, and the even crazier still option with unlimited budget: the Dead Man/Necropolis -including the return of Anderson and fuck the audience.

I do have a hankering for some Bloodline content in a film though and the Apocalypse War could be well tweaked to work for a current audience.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 09:11:26 PM
Having said all that, keep things on the level of the the Pit, Sin City or Mandroid and I'd be wel happy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 15 February, 2012, 09:12:01 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 09:03:01 PM
Considering the fact that Death hasn't been a significant presence or really any potent presence in a Dredd/2000AD story since Necropolis 21 years ago,

Fuck! Way to make me feel old.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 15 February, 2012, 09:12:06 PM
Quote from: radiator on 15 February, 2012, 09:01:38 PM


If, for instance, they were making Dredd as a much more stylised film, with heavy use of cgi and prosthetics, you could go nuts with it - Judge Death, League of Fatties, whatever you wanted. That such a film would require a massive budget and would most likely tank at the box office is beside the point.



I used these examples to illustrate my point, which is that you could retain the realism and grittiness while still integrating a hard Sci-Fi element. Trying to implement every aspect of the comic would be box office suicide. But to absolutely ignore this  aspect of the source material would be a huge missed opportunity. And I'm not accusing the makers of Dredd 2012 of doing this because I havent seen the film yet.

Another Little fact - two recent films Chronicle and District 9 both filmed in South Africa with smaller budgets than Dredd managed to 1) Have very Strong Sci-Fi elements  2) Not explain every little thing - adding to the mystery and 3) Be successful box office draws.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 09:18:33 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 15 February, 2012, 08:59:00 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 08:42:07 PM



It would only conflict with the story if told from the aspect of a narrator which probably wouldn't be a 'device' adopted for a Dredd film anyway, at least not throughout. The story could equally be told from a different perspective and work just as powerfully.

I cannot agree: again, for me, the power of that story comes from the way it's told: America, more than any other Dredd tale is pretty much dependant upon its narrator. That's the whole point of that story.

Cinema can do certian things better and more powerfully than comics -and vice-versa- exploiting these certain things/techniques comics can't do and using them to tell the stories in a new way when adapting these kinds of stories can make them equally as powerful. Imagination, faitfulness to the spirit of the source and the will to do so is the key to doing it. This can compliment and give a different but equally profound perspective on the the original story. Not repeating the same mistakes films such as Watchmen make.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 15 February, 2012, 09:40:10 PM
Whilst a semi enjoyable romp in comic form..I hope we never see Death in a Dredd film

He's just far too cliched bless him

Skully looking guy who's name is..wait for it..Judge Death

I mean come on..ok we get it..to a point

But cinema goers will think someone is taking the piss

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing some of the more believable characters

Cal..maybe another appearance of the Angel Gang? (possibly the only redeeming feature of the 95 film)

Uncle Ump?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 15 February, 2012, 09:43:35 PM
PS. Chopper would be arsom
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 February, 2012, 09:48:19 PM
QuoteThe point I believe is Dredd isn't Batman so really there's no need for him to have an arch-nemesis like the Joker.

And I agree, but that's how the majority of people see it - I've been following the Dredd film story on many different websites and the most common comment people make (other than "He better not take the helmet off") is "Will Judge Death be in it?".

I'd go so far as to say that the Bolland Judge Death strips are probably the most popular and widest-read Dredd stories of all time.

It's already been stated that Garland initially wanted Death in this film, but decided to hold onto him for the proposed sequel.

While I agree he isn't the most interesting character (and I hate to bring up Nolan yet again), but you could argue that there's nothing particularly interesting about the Joker. He doesn't have a backstory, doesn't have an arc - all he is is an agent of chaos, and that approach worked superbly in The Dark Knight.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 15 February, 2012, 09:50:12 PM
TBH there aren't many believable characters in Dredd when you think about it. Probably why it's such a challenge for film makers to get right without producing a film which is just too damn weird for your average filmgoer.

Mean Machine and his ilk is inventive storytelling, but imagine trying to seriously portray a psychopathic (head) nutter like him. An audience would either laugh outright or just be plain disgusted. You can say that for most Dredd characters.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 15 February, 2012, 09:53:08 PM
Regarding Judge Death as a realistic enemy, could he not just be a psychopath who thinks life is a crime? Perhaps  a mutant too, giving an excuse for a horribly disfigured face and physic powers like Anderson.

I think that would be the most effective way to incorporate him into this gritty realistic universe. Coming from a different dimension would be too much.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 15 February, 2012, 09:59:48 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 15 February, 2012, 09:50:12 PM
TBH there aren't many believable characters in Dredd when you think about it. Probably why it's such a challenge for film makers to get right without producing a film which is just too damn weird for your average filmgoer.

Mean Machine and his ilk is inventive storytelling, but imagine trying to seriously portray a psychopathic (head) nutter like him. An audience would either laugh outright or just be plain disgusted. You can say that for most Dredd characters.

I agree to a point..I just think that the Dark Judges..whilst fun in a comic..are just parodies of the four horsemen of the apocalypse..I mean how the f**k are you supposed to work that into a film?

Let's not forget who Dredd is..at the end of the day he's a future lawman..the humour in the comic has always been core to what makes the strip so good..but at the same time I think Death and friends is well..a little too out of place..maybe even..dare I say it..childish for an adult movie?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 February, 2012, 10:05:56 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 09:18:33 PM


Cinema can do certian things better and more powerfully than comics -and vice-versa- exploiting these certain things/techniques comics can't do and using them to tell the stories in a new way when adapting these kinds of stories can make them equally as powerful. Imagination, faitfulness to the spirit of the source and the will to do so is the key to doing it. This can compliment and give a different but equally profound perspective on the the original story. Not repeating the same mistakes films such as Watchmen make.

Watchmen, with it's crossover to pirate comics and its complimentary reading material ( autobiog excerpts, psychiatric reports, interveiws e.t.c.) is a clear case of strong-on-paper but emasculated on film. Imagination and understanding are indeed magical properties but sometimes things are so bound in their original medium that even with the best will in the world they cannot translate.

Seriously: America? Really? How would you do it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 15 February, 2012, 10:07:22 PM
Ok I am very pro Death, and I agree with Andersons Shame. If death is a one dimensional character, then that's the very reason he would work on screen. He doesn't need an elaborate intro, backstory etc, he is an instant character the audience can pick up on. Introducing Fear,fire and Mortis would be a great piece of story telling, much like the cenobites in hellraiser. You can fx him up to the eyeballs or make him as traditional as Jason V.
I can't agree with comics not working in film. It's up to the story teller to make the audience suspend their disbelief, and absorb the story, whether in a written , artistic or moving media.
Pj maybe doesn't do that much for me, he's a bit like moriarty, a bond baddy, one of many villains.
Death is as unique a character as Dredd's world can offer, esp for a 90 min film, and offers far more 'entertainment' 'action' 'horror/gore''humour' etc etc as any plot I can think of that would appeal to a mass audience. The fact we are still talking of him 21 years later is proof of this.
I agree mc1 is a great ace in the pack for dredd but again , a post nuclear city isn't, now, a great sell .
I know I am prob in the minority here but this I'd my take on Death .
   
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 10:11:53 PM
Quote from: radiator on 15 February, 2012, 09:48:19 PM
QuoteThe point I believe is Dredd isn't Batman so really there's no need for him to have an arch-nemesis like the Joker.

And I agree, but that's how the majority of people see it - I've been following the Dredd film story on many different websites and the most common comment people make (other than "He better not take the helmet off") is "Will Judge Death be in it?".


That majority of people wouldn't be that huge and really they're a majority of what exactly?, if they even are one. I don't think Dredd is particularly aimed at them in particular, they ain't a huge part of the cinematic pie.


but he has a backstory mystery that's hinted at...then again I've only watched the film once -TDK- as I find it quite an empty faux-academic exercise that doesn't gel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 10:14:27 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 10:11:53 PM
Quote from: radiator on 15 February, 2012, 09:48:19 PM
QuoteThe point I believe is Dredd isn't Batman so really there's no need for him to have an arch-nemesis like the Joker.

And I agree, but that's how the majority of people see it - I've been following the Dredd film story on many different websites and the most common comment people make (other than "He better not take the helmet off") is "Will Judge Death be in it?".


That majority of people wouldn't be that huge and really they're a majority of what exactly?, if they even are one. I don't think Dredd is particularly aimed at them in particular, they ain't a huge part of the cinematic pie.

Edit to above post:

QuoteWhile I agree he isn't the most interesting character (and I hate to bring up Nolan yet again), but you could argue that there's nothing particularly interesting about the Joker. He doesn't have a backstory, doesn't have an arc - all he is is an agent of chaos, and that approach worked superbly in The Dark Knight.

but he has a backstory mystery that's hinted at...then again I've only watched the film once -TDK- as I find it quite an empty faux-academic exercise that doesn't gel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 10:20:32 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 15 February, 2012, 10:07:22 PM
Ok I am very pro Death, and I agree with Andersons Shame. If death is a one dimensional character, then that's the very reason he would work on screen. He doesn't need an elaborate intro, backstory etc, he is an instant character the audience can pick up on. Introducing Fear,fire and Mortis would be a great piece of story telling, much like the cenobites in hellraiser. You can fx him up to the eyeballs or make him as traditional as Jason V.
I can't agree with comics not working in film. It's up to the story teller to make the audience suspend their disbelief, and absorb the story, whether in a written , artistic or moving media.
Pj maybe doesn't do that much for me, he's a bit like moriarty, a bond baddy, one of many villains.
Death is as unique a character as Dredd's world can offer, esp for a 90 min film, and offers far more 'entertainment' 'action' 'horror/gore''humour' etc etc as any plot I can think of that would appeal to a mass audience. The fact we are still talking of him 21 years later is proof of this.
I agree mc1 is a great ace in the pack for dredd but again , a post nuclear city isn't, now, a great sell .
I know I am prob in the minority here but this I'd my take on Death .
   


My point is that while a Judge Death film would be fun, why not spend these quite large sums of money on Dredd's stronger stories and characters. We're only going to get a limited number of Dredd films if the new one even manages to be a success, not seven or eight installments like Harry Potter.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 15 February, 2012, 10:27:22 PM
I hate to be the one constantly defending this point because in reality judge death to me would not be the best way to go in any sequels. But if it had to be done I can see how it could be done right. That would be not to do a literal interpretation of the comic but to make the concept of dark judges work within the parameters of this established reality.Adding an psychic death cult aspect would not be a huge leap considering Anderson is already in the film.

In short as a lot of us are getting at anyway is the story could be streamlined in some ways and made to incorporate elements from other stories. But as a student of film I would never out right say that some things could not work, or are too much for the general audience to take.

If a story is believable within the parameters that the film maker sets then anything is possible. The dark judge idea would need a lot of thought but there are ways that it could work and even be more interesting than some think it might be.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 15 February, 2012, 10:32:38 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 15 February, 2012, 08:43:26 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 15 February, 2012, 07:42:01 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 15 February, 2012, 03:37:49 PM
Honest, the Dredd film aimed for a darker and more realistic tone, with humanity and realism being the basis of the film, with Mega-City in Cursed Earth. Better for film if stick to realistic, and give it very interesting. Just leave the Sci-fi, Aliens, fantasy to the comics.

Yes. I think it will be an interesting take on Dredd, without the off the wall, avant garde, comic strip thrills. Looking forward to it.

Who'd write the film score for it though? Andrew Lloydd Webber? :D


Yes and while we're at it lets burn all copies of these films:

Superman
Alien, Aliens
Blade Runner
Big Trouble in Little China
The Thing
Terminator
Total Recall
Predator
Raiders of the lost Ark
Blade etc.. etc..

Because Fantastical Stuff taken seriously and executed professionally never - NEVER works on screen. Every film based on a comic franchise or a work of Sci-Fi fiction must explain everything away totally scientifically and leave no room for today's dumb-ass/ cynical audience to say "hey that doesn't happen in the real World".

All adaptations begin and end with The Dark Knight and there is no other way any other film could work if not made in the same 'real world'. There is no film maker more visionary than Christopher Nolan, who has perfected the art of Story telling on screen beyond any other Human being alive or dead.

:thumbsup:



No. For the new Dredd film to make an impact it is necessary to challnge previous SF conventions. Dredd is well known for SF effects, take the emphasis off them and do something innovative with the character, something different so the bored, apathetic audience doesn't go
"durr! annver sci fi film, I wonder if its gonna be like BladeRunner". Challenge these lazy expectations.

What you want from a Dredd film is the story "City of the Damned". It has all the elements you're hankering for : zombies, vampires, time travel, mutants, robots, paradoxical alternative time streams, e.s.p, Judge Anderson and a reference to Judge Death...all in one story. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 15 February, 2012, 10:33:33 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 15 February, 2012, 09:40:10 PM
Whilst a semi enjoyable romp in comic form..I hope we never see Death in a Dredd film

He's just far too cliched bless him

Skully looking guy who's name is..wait for it..Judge Death

I mean come on..ok we get it..to a point

As opposed to the most-feared cop in Mega-City One being called Judge . . . Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 10:34:05 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 15 February, 2012, 10:32:38 PM

What you want from a Dredd film is the story "City of the Damned". It has all the elements you're hankering for : zombies, vampires, time travel, mutants, robots, paradoxical alternative time streams, e.s.p, Judge Anderson and a reference to Judge Death...all in one story.


Nah.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 15 February, 2012, 10:36:28 PM
Quote from: Eric Plumrose on 15 February, 2012, 10:33:33 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 15 February, 2012, 09:40:10 PM
Whilst a semi enjoyable romp in comic form..I hope we never see Death in a Dredd film

He's just far too cliched bless him

Skully looking guy who's name is..wait for it..Judge Death

I mean come on..ok we get it..to a point

As opposed to the most-feared cop in Mega-City One being called Judge . . . Dredd.

Yeah but let's face it..Joseph Dredd is a tad more subtle

You're just being pedantic anyway  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 15 February, 2012, 10:37:47 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 10:34:05 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 15 February, 2012, 10:32:38 PM

What you want from a Dredd film is the story "City of the Damned". It has all the elements you're hankering for : zombies, vampires, time travel, mutants, robots, paradoxical alternative time streams, e.s.p, Judge Anderson and a reference to Judge Death...all in one story.


Nah.


Wrong read above.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Grimmyx22 on 15 February, 2012, 10:41:52 PM
I have some posts missing. A little worrying. Check tomoro.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 10:43:44 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 15 February, 2012, 10:27:22 PM

In short as a lot of us are getting at anyway is the story could be streamlined in some ways and made to incorporate elements from other stories. But as a student of film I would never out right say that some things could not work, or are too much for the general audience to take.




The Death cult idea has always lurked in the background of Dredd but I think Death himself would physically have to manifest through some host at some stage to do the character justice rather than be a mere transient phantasm infecting the minds of the Mega-Cits. Manifesting the rest of the Dark Judges would be a struggle though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 10:44:47 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 15 February, 2012, 10:37:47 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 10:34:05 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 15 February, 2012, 10:32:38 PM

What you want from a Dredd film is the story "City of the Damned". It has all the elements you're hankering for : zombies, vampires, time travel, mutants, robots, paradoxical alternative time streams, e.s.p, Judge Anderson and a reference to Judge Death...all in one story.


Nah.


Wrong read above.


Nope. Even T.B. Grover got tired of that tale before it finished.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 15 February, 2012, 10:46:37 PM
That's my point Joe. It's fucking tiresome. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 15 February, 2012, 10:49:26 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 15 February, 2012, 10:46:37 PM
That's my point Joe. It's fucking tiresome. :lol:

Also my point.  That was overkill and obviously ridiculous.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 15 February, 2012, 10:49:39 PM
How about four Judges are sent in space on a science mission and are exposed to cosmic rays....... Oh wait.
At least you have a johnny storm character. (Flame on (permanently))




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 15 February, 2012, 10:50:32 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 10:43:44 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 15 February, 2012, 10:27:22 PM

In short as a lot of us are getting at anyway is the story could be streamlined in some ways and made to incorporate elements from other stories. But as a student of film I would never out right say that some things could not work, or are too much for the general audience to take.




The Death cult idea has always lurked in the background of Dredd but I think Death himself would physically have to manifest through some host at some stage to do the character justice rather than be a mere transient phantasm infecting the minds of the Mega-Cits. Manifesting the rest of the Dark Judges would be a struggle though.

Now this would be far more palatable

Maybe a Thugee type death cult in Mega City One

Giant statue of Death in an underground temple..maybe the leader of the cult has disfigured himself to look like the deity..possession etc etc..

I'm thinking Indiana Jones..Temple Of Doom haha
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 February, 2012, 10:51:25 PM
City of the Damned would be a weak choice. It's a hokey, superhero-style concept, a messy, convoluted and continuity-heavy narrative and a rather obscure, unpopular one at that. And it would require a massive budget.

Plus it takes Dredd out of his usual surroundings and setup. We'll barely get a glimpse of the city in the first film as it is.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 10:55:10 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 15 February, 2012, 10:05:56 PM
Watchmen, with it's crossover to pirate comics and its complimentary reading material ( autobiog excerpts, psychiatric reports, interveiws e.t.c.) is a clear case of strong-on-paper but emasculated on film.

That was my point.

Quote from: darnmarr on 15 February, 2012, 10:05:56 PM
Imagination and understanding are indeed magical properties but sometimes things are so bound in their original medium that even with the best will in the world they cannot translate.



Stating things like that is more or less saying that excellent 'unfilmable book' adaptations like L.A. Confidential, Lord of the Rings and many others don't exist and that more good cinematic adaptations can't. It's not true.



Quote from: darnmarr on 15 February, 2012, 10:05:56 PM
Seriously: America? Really? How would you do it?


Thee are a number of ways, the voice-over and structure are not impediments to the story working on-screen. Other elements about the political struggle and Dredd could be elaborated upon to heighten the drama, acting as counterpoints to the America story-line but as with any film it still relies on good acting, good script, good directing, good cinematography, good Editing etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 15 February, 2012, 10:56:41 PM
Quote from: radiator on 15 February, 2012, 10:51:25 PM
City of the Damned would be a weak choice. It's a hokey, superhero-style concept, a messy, convoluted and continuity-heavy narrative and a rather obscure, unpopular one at that. And it would require a massive budget.

i think that was Wonky's point.  It has everything that people are asking for, and it's a mess that even bored its writers.  See also:  Judgement Day.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 15 February, 2012, 10:58:34 PM
QuoteStating things like that is more or less saying that excellent 'unfilmable book' adaptations like L.A. Confidential, Lord of the Rings and many others don't exist and that more good cinematic adaptations can't. It's not true.

Indeed
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 15 February, 2012, 10:58:55 PM
At least we got some decent art duties on Judgment Day and City of the Damned.




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Grimmyx22 on 15 February, 2012, 11:00:24 PM
Posts at alt.2000ad. many apols... many drinkshhh... hic. soz
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Grimmyx22 on 15 February, 2012, 11:13:45 PM
Feel a prick starting a page like that. How about- "Why the judges exist anyway?" and how this relates to a Judge Dredd movie? Surely this is the crux of the matter to an uninitiated (paying) moviegoer?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cactus on 15 February, 2012, 11:49:03 PM
Ok, this thread has doubled in size since I last read it. Has anything happened or are we all still just waiting for a teaser trailer?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 11:50:36 PM
Oh, you missed it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 15 February, 2012, 11:53:48 PM
I missed out from that list cloning and teleportation. Every fantasy trope is in "City of the Damned". It's an enjoyable read don't get me wrong Andersonshame. You'd be hard put to find a story with all those different elements in it.

Quote from: Grimmyx22 on 15 February, 2012, 11:13:45 PM
Feel a prick starting a page like that. How about- "Why the judges exist anyway?" and how this relates to a Judge Dredd movie? Surely this is the crux of the matter to an uninitiated (paying) moviegoer?

I think this is the premise of the new film grimmy. It demonstrates the need for iron justice in a predatory dangerous city. As far as I know! Roll on September. When are we going to see some more pictures/film clips?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 15 February, 2012, 11:55:16 PM
Quote from: Cactus on 15 February, 2012, 11:49:03 PM
Ok, this thread has doubled in size since I last read it. Has anything happened or are we all still just waiting for a teaser trailer?
Sure am goood buddy!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Grimmyx22 on 16 February, 2012, 12:04:17 AM
With baited breath- june/july? Genuinely pyschotic with expectation.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 16 February, 2012, 12:05:33 AM
How about the Anderson angle bringing in Satan? Maybe with an army of Dune Sharks?  :lol:

Also chuckling at the thought of Jason Statham as Mean Machine  :D

Seriously though, can't see the apparent tone of the film lending itself too well to any of the more fantastical characters/stories. America though, or any of the more recent serious-tone Wagner, yes. Block Mania/Apocalypse War maybe, but that might seem a tad ambitious. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 16 February, 2012, 12:26:17 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2012, 10:55:10 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 15 February, 2012, 10:05:56 PM
Imagination and understanding are indeed magical properties but sometimes things are so bound in their original medium that even with the best will in the world they cannot translate.



Stating things like that is more or less saying that excellent 'unfilmable book' adaptations like L.A. Confidential, Lord of the Rings and many others don't exist and that more good cinematic adaptations can't. It's not true.


Sorry Joe: I wasn't saying anything more or less of the kind. I just happen to think that the strength of some (not all) stories lies in the context of how they are imparted and America in particular happens to be one such story:  removing the narrative twist from that story would be like doing a version of the Usual Suspects where you never find out the identity of Keyser Söze... you could in theory tell the exact same series of events, but without the twist-in-the-tale, it does kind of lose the point a tad. No?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 February, 2012, 12:29:31 AM
But you wouldn't need to remove the narrative twist.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 16 February, 2012, 12:31:53 AM
Well I'm personally buggered if I can think of a way one might include it: what do you suggest?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 16 February, 2012, 12:33:26 AM
Quote from: wonkychop on 15 February, 2012, 11:53:48 PM
I missed out from that list cloning and teleportation. Every fantasy trope is in "City of the Damned". It's an enjoyable read don't get me wrong Andersonshame. You'd be hard put to find a story with all those different elements in it.

Quote from: Grimmyx22 on 15 February, 2012, 11:13:45 PM
Feel a prick starting a page like that. How about- "Why the judges exist anyway?" and how this relates to a Judge Dredd movie? Surely this is the crux of the matter to an uninitiated (paying) moviegoer?


I think this is the premise of the new film grimmy. It demonstrates the need for iron justice in a predatory dangerous city. As far as I know! Roll on September. When are we going to see some more pictures/film clips?

What are you on about. I did not once say that I would like to see City of the Damned up there on the big screen. I did say that would be overkill. My point is that if Dark judges or any one element from the comics that could be deemed out of the ordinary had to be done, it could be done in a way that would work believably. E.g the above mentioned unfilmable works of fiction. If you want to see all the crap from City of the Damned be my guest.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 February, 2012, 12:47:03 AM
Well if it were to be played as is, structurally, and for simplicity's sake let's say it will be and dealing with just the basics: it starts with present-day Mega-City One, we see America getting ready to sing her song therefore we know she's alive in the present -this does not need to be stated with a voice-over- and the impetus to flash-back can be constructed dramatically with cues visually and/or using dialogue within the set-up scenes of the story. The story can still flash-back to tell the tale as per source with the characters growing-up, splitting apart etc. and at the end we discover she's actually dead and it's Beeny in her body so the question is: why can it not be told? They're both visual story mediums.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Grimmyx22 on 16 February, 2012, 12:57:53 AM
I for one dont think city of the damned would work on screen, or any of the prog-centric stories for that matter, i think the central idea of why the world needs judges in the first place would be the place to visit, and has always been the most engaging element of Dredd for myself. Dredd needs to be justified if he is to be presented as anything other than just another anti-hero. That has always been the strength of the comic, and right or wrong this is where the heart of the entire concept lies. "In a world... " just dont cut it for me. Lets have a proper exploration of why Dredd exists. Because he does, metaphorically and literally he represents something, lets try to find out what that is and if it means anything to us. Much more satifying than Judge Death dont yo think?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 February, 2012, 12:58:23 AM
Here's my hope for a second Dredd film storyline, if the first is successful: a new, original script not heavily based on anything from the comic, yet retaining the general feel of Dredd. That's it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 16 February, 2012, 01:02:18 AM
Joe I apologise for harping on, it's probably just a personal strait-jacketed way of thinking: but that story, to me, is all about the voice that tells it, anyhoo: Goodnight folks and here's to new footage or pics or something on the morrow.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 February, 2012, 01:07:21 AM



Quote from: darnmarr on 16 February, 2012, 01:02:18 AM
Joe I apologise for harping on, it's probably just a personal strait-jacketed way of thinking: but that story, to me, is all about the voice that tells it


To me that story is not just the voice and that's why it can be done differently yet still retain that story.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 February, 2012, 01:07:43 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 16 February, 2012, 12:58:23 AM
Here's my hope for a second Dredd film storyline, if the first is successful: a new, original script not heavily based on anything from the comic, yet retaining the general feel of Dredd. That's it.


Tell Alex Garland: No Death.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Grimmyx22 on 16 February, 2012, 01:15:00 AM
To Alex Garland- no anything, get your thinking cap on.
Thoroughly approve of whats revealed so far.
Long live the new Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 16 February, 2012, 04:08:52 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 15 February, 2012, 09:53:51 AM
Beaky Smoooch you'll find it here:  http://ecbt2000ad.libsyn.com/webpage/page/3   
It's Podcast number 51 and it's about 2 hrs long.

Cheers dude :thumbsup:...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 16 February, 2012, 04:29:12 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 16 February, 2012, 12:58:23 AM
Here's my hope for a second Dredd film storyline, if the first is successful: a new, original script not heavily based on anything from the comic, yet retaining the general feel of Dredd. That's it.

I wholeheartedly second that motion your hon'r, but didn't Andrew McDonald, one of Dredd's producers, say that Alex Garland already has a couple of ideas for potential sequels, and considering Anderson's inclusion in the new adaptation, plus the fact a character in the online leaked script draft (if it's still in the final film) [spoiler]has a Judge Death tattoo[/spoiler], thereby possibly setting up an appearance in a later instalment, not to mention Alex Garland's original concept of Dredd being a face-off with Mr D'eath esq, I think the chances are good that ol' boney face will take on ol' stoney face in a Dredd sequel (whether we would rather it not so or otherwise)... if we get one, that is, fingers crossed!

Oh, just one last thought before I go, when deciding upon a storyline for a Dredd movie adaptation, you have to boil the whole JD saga down to it's essential elements, what is Judge Dredd exactly?  For my part, Judge Dredd is Dirty Harry in Fritz Lang's Metropolis, once you have that foundation laid down, you can use it as a springboard for possible storylines; an uncompromising law enforcer in a vast, sprawling, and insanely crime-plagued futuristic megalopolis, take it away guys!

Quote from: Grimmyx22 on 16 February, 2012, 01:15:00 AM
To Alex Garland- no anything, get your thinking cap on.
Thoroughly approve of whats revealed so far.
Long live the new Dredd.

Amen to that and goodnight gracie :wave:.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 16 February, 2012, 05:57:57 AM
Quote from: radiator on 15 February, 2012, 05:20:32 PM
QuoteThey would have to commit 100% and not wimp out,play it straight,dark,full on horror with the dimension hopping.

I don't agree. Look at Ras Al Ghul in the Batman comics vs Batman Begins. In the comics he's very camp-looking and immortal - in the film a suave and effective villain, and is done without a hint of the supernatural.

Shows that a character can very successfully be toned down to suit a grittier, more realistic tone.
Thats what I meant by playing him straight....as if real.
  Would still prefer Fink though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 16 February, 2012, 07:58:10 AM
I wonder if I can get to the top of page 100 ??

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 February, 2012, 09:05:17 AM

Oh, my thread got to 100 pages??

Well, gotta to say, for one thing, I am glad this film get made, and for one, I cant wait to see it in September, no matter how badly it is (it wouldn't as never read the script or listen to one biggest moaner)  I trust in them to made it, not long to go!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 16 February, 2012, 10:30:35 AM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 16 February, 2012, 12:33:26 AM
Quote from: wonkychop on 15 February, 2012, 11:53:48 PM
I missed out from that list cloning and teleportation. Every fantasy trope is in "City of the Damned". It's an enjoyable read don't get me wrong Andersonshame. You'd be hard put to find a story with all those different elements in it.


What are you on about. I did not once say that I would like to see City of the Damned up there on the big screen. I did say that would be overkill. My point is that if Dark judges or any one element from the comics that could be deemed out of the ordinary had to be done, it could be done in a way that would work believably. E.g the above mentioned unfilmable works of fiction. If you want to see all the crap from City of the Damned be my guest.

What i'm trying to say, it is possibly the quintessential sci-fi story of all time, it has every sci-fi trick in the book in it. All condensed in a few pages. Also it's the first time in the Dredd strip that Judge Anderson comes across as being sexy. :D

Seriously, if the new films were going to incorporate full blown fantasy in them City of the Damned would be the one because it seems like a commmentary on the SF/Horror genre as a whole to me.

Unfilmable works of fiction? I thought that accolade went to the Naked Lunch?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 16 February, 2012, 12:11:22 PM
The only thing it doesn't have in it is a talking ape. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 February, 2012, 12:15:29 PM
Wonky, why you kept want to dumb down the Dredd films?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 16 February, 2012, 12:24:33 PM
Doesn't matter what I want Goaty. The Dredd film is being made in a way by people who own the rights to do this, I don't have control over direction I'm, just a passenger. As a punter I have no say in what the film should be like, I am going to get this version of Judge Dredd whether I like it or not. I am a consumer not a producer.

I like to discuss Dredd as a fan/pundit why do you think it's in my power to "dumb it down" ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: malkymac on 16 February, 2012, 03:03:01 PM
IF we were to get a sequel and the movie was going to stay in the gritty realistic vein then perhaps a basis for the story could be the democracy movement combined with the more recent plots involving Total War taking the more extremist route?

It could involve seeing aspects of how the judges subvert the democratic movement whilst trying to stop Total War setting off a warhead (you could maybe even involve Orlok who could be there supplying the hardware for Total War). I think this this could be action packed and also give us a chance to see more of megacity and it's citizens.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 16 February, 2012, 04:32:03 PM
Orlok egging Total War on without them knowing who he really is would be cool,all leading to Block War and then (budget permitting) Apocalypse War.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 16 February, 2012, 04:51:46 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 16 February, 2012, 04:32:03 PM
Orlok egging Total War on without them knowing who he really is would be cool,all leading to Block War and then (budget permitting) Apocalypse War.

Total War < Block War < Apocalypse War.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 16 February, 2012, 05:54:17 PM
Yeah,all in reverse....with Chopper in the first one and nukes galore in the sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cactus on 16 February, 2012, 08:07:51 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 15 February, 2012, 11:55:16 PM
Quote from: Cactus on 15 February, 2012, 11:49:03 PM
Ok, this thread has doubled in size since I last read it. Has anything happened or are we all still just waiting for a teaser trailer?
Sure am goood buddy!
Thanks wonkychop.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 16 February, 2012, 08:22:41 PM
Dunno why people think The Apocalypse War would work well as a sequel.

Why bother going to all the trouble of establishing Dredd as 'judge, jury and executioner' only to throw that all out the window and have him fighting a guerilla war against some very dated Cold War villains?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 16 February, 2012, 08:26:54 PM
TV Series spin off can cover everything, it'll jar with the movie continuity of course but you can't have everything...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 16 February, 2012, 09:36:43 PM
Yes a T.V. serial would be nice. The thing is with that idea though, Judge Dredd is already serialised in the comics, could be a case of overkill. Not that Dredd is a stranger to a bit of overkill!

The "Hunter's Club" episodes would be suited for adaption to film. Just change the conspiracy to murder  to some big MC1 figure instead of an anonymous victim, and have Dredd chasing the assassins through  the film, build up plenty of tension with a string of assinations, can Dredd stop them in time?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 16 February, 2012, 09:47:11 PM
Tons of stuff that would make the transition with this movie version:

Hotdog Run
Graveyard Shift
Angel Gang and Fink
Shanty Town
The Pit
Captain Skank
Diary Of A Mad Citizen
Block Mania (Not so sure about Apocalypse War, to be honest but Orlok spreading chaos throughout the city...? Hell yeah.)
Rico (Exile on Titan might be too much but no reason forced labor camps in the Cursed Earth can't explain Rico's physical makeover, no...?)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 16 February, 2012, 09:48:20 PM
You've just described the plot of Deadpool
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 16 February, 2012, 11:07:01 PM
Cogan's Trade starring Brad Pitt announced for September 21st release.

Plot: Jackie Cogan is a professional enforcer who investigates a heist that went down during a mob-protected poker game.
Genre: Crime, Thriller

"The September 21st date will set the film against the Judge Dredd reboot, Dredd, the animated family comedy Hotel Transylvania, and the thriller The House at the End of the Street."

http://collider.com/cogans-trade-scary-movie-5-butter-release-date/146106/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 February, 2012, 11:11:25 PM
Not really genre competition though, more like, there's another film out at the same time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 16 February, 2012, 11:22:15 PM
The publicity machine must be working ,Judge Dredd just got a namecheck on Question Time. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 February, 2012, 11:28:28 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 16 February, 2012, 11:22:15 PM
The publicity machine must be working ,Judge Dredd just got a namecheck on Question Time. ;)

Yeah but it link the 2000AD Comic Judge Dredd not film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 February, 2012, 11:37:03 PM
I can't wait till September! I think Aliens: Colonial Marines will be out around then too, so it's gonna be a great time in my life.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 17 February, 2012, 05:16:16 AM
Gettin' a little worried about the September 21st release date, it's getting a bit crowded - http://collider.com/cogans-trade-scary-movie-5-butter-release-date/146106/ - I just hope it doesn't hurt Dredd's chances at the box-office, although there is no real other notable genre film released that week, so maybe that'll help bring in the CBM and geek audience demographic and work in Dredd's favour... still hopefully cautiously optimistic!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 February, 2012, 09:41:29 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 17 February, 2012, 05:16:16 AM
Gettin' a little worried about the September 21st release date, it's getting a bit crowded


It's a bit like being worried that it might rain that day. I don't think we should concern ourselves with the fact that other films will be sharing the multiplex theatres when it comes out. If Dredd can't compete with those films there's nothing can be done about it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 17 February, 2012, 10:22:43 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 16 February, 2012, 11:22:15 PM
The publicity machine must be working ,Judge Dredd just got a namecheck on Question Time. ;)

Every town should have a cardboard cut out Dredd; it will deter criminals.

(http://i.imgur.com/NnP3H.jpg)

Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 17 February, 2012, 05:16:16 AM
Gettin' a little worried about the September 21st release date, it's getting a bit crowded - http://collider.com/cogans-trade-scary-movie-5-butter-release-date/146106/ - I just hope it doesn't hurt Dredd's chances at the box-office, although there is no real other notable genre film released that week, so maybe that'll help bring in the CBM and geek audience demographic and work in Dredd's favour... still hopefully cautiously optimistic!

I think the latter possibility is more likely Beaky. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 17 February, 2012, 11:09:46 AM
QuoteIt's a bit like being worried that it might rain that day. I don't think we should concern ourselves with the fact that other films will be sharing the multiplex theatres when it comes out. If Dredd can't compete with those films there's nothing can be done about it.

I agree - obviously releasing Dredd in the Summer, going up against the likes of The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus would be unwise, but pretty much any weekend either side of blockbuster season it's going to have competition of some kind.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 17 February, 2012, 12:23:05 PM
It'll be very special for me as it's on my sisters birthday and my birthday is always exactly a week before. So that week will be one hill of a countdown.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 17 February, 2012, 01:36:28 PM
Quote from: George Dread on 17 February, 2012, 12:23:05 PM
It'll be very special for me as it's on my sisters birthday and my birthday is always exactly a week before. So that week will be one hill of a countdown.

'Always' eh?Doesn't move about then like most peoples - :lol:

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Grimmyx22 on 17 February, 2012, 01:59:33 PM
Not being too knowledgable about these things- do new movie trailers always appear online first these days?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 17 February, 2012, 02:06:48 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 17 February, 2012, 01:36:28 PM
Quote from: George Dread on 17 February, 2012, 12:23:05 PM
It'll be very special for me as it's on my sisters birthday and my birthday is always exactly a week before. So that week will be one hill of a countdown.

'Always' eh?Doesn't move about then like most peoples - :lol:



Always as a pose to there not being a rare film about  Dredd on on that particular day, dear lad.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 17 February, 2012, 03:05:06 PM
It might not do that well at the cinema, but will probably make for it in dvd sales. Machete didn't do to well at the box office but made a lot on dvd/blu-ray. Enough to get two sequels.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 February, 2012, 03:15:48 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 17 February, 2012, 03:05:06 PM
It might not do that well at the cinema, but will probably make for it in dvd sales. Machete didn't do to well at the box office but made a lot on dvd/blu-ray. Enough to get two sequels.

Who says it might not do well at the cinema?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 17 February, 2012, 03:16:44 PM
No one, just that people saying about competition and stuff, I should have said 'even if it doesn't do well'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 17 February, 2012, 04:09:10 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 17 February, 2012, 03:16:44 PM
No one, just that people saying about competition and stuff, I should have said 'even if it doesn't do well'

Yes you should have young man. Now kindly march your ass to the headmasters office.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 17 February, 2012, 04:56:43 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 17 February, 2012, 03:15:48 PM
Who says it might not do well at the cinema?

Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 17 February, 2012, 05:16:16 AM
Gettin' a little worried about the September 21st release date, it's getting a bit crowded - http://collider.com/cogans-trade-scary-movie-5-butter-release-date/146106/ - I just hope it doesn't hurt Dredd's chances at the box-office, although there is no real other notable genre film released that week, so maybe that'll help bring in the CBM and geek audience demographic and work in Dredd's favour... still hopefully cautiously optimistic!

Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 17 February, 2012, 03:05:06 PM
It might not do that well at the cinema, but will probably make for it in dvd sales. Machete didn't do to well at the box office but made a lot on dvd/blu-ray. Enough to get two sequels.

My perspective is that it should be o.k. at the flicks performance wise; what's probably more important is whether 2000ad fans wil reject or love the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 17 February, 2012, 05:58:40 PM
Quote
-what's probably more important is whether 2000ad fans wil reject or love the film.

Our opinion is merely subjective. 100 people all see the same incident different ways. I liked the recent version of Captain America yet I thought the much praised JJ Abrams Movie Super 8 wasn't that astounding, a pale ghost of Spielberg. But that's just my opinion that alters nothing about the Movies or their subsequent success at the Box Office or their DVD sales.

DREDD to the Film's makers is just another product. So long as the Film earns a reasonable return that's all the Films Producers really care about.

Mercenary but that's show business!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 17 February, 2012, 07:00:28 PM
I share your cynicism iamthesystem but would formulate it a different way.

For us the film is just another product, the Film's Makers want DREDD to be something we really care about so it earns them a reasonable return.

Mercenary but that's entertainment!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 17 February, 2012, 08:46:27 PM
So Dredd Yeah. Finds himself pinned down by pure fuckin mad machine gun fire (could be an Uzi 9mm or some shit) inna Hab in Peach Tree with Judge Anderson next to him. So he pipes up. 'Hey Cass. Do ya mind if I call ya Cass?' and she shoots him a look as if to say 'You already av you dirty bastard'. And he goes 'Well, it looks like we're for the fuckin chop ere and I know there's all this bollocks about us Judges not shaggin and that, but seein as we're about to pop it do ya fancy givin us a quick 'Gamm'. Now Anderson is just about to give Dredd a fuckin good wollop round his head but just before she does he drops his keks. And do you know what saves him? That's right.
His massive fuckin helmet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 17 February, 2012, 08:53:02 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 17 February, 2012, 08:46:27 PM
So Dredd Yeah. Finds himself pinned down by pure fuckin mad machine gun fire (could be an Uzi 9mm or some shit) inna Hab in Peach Tree with Judge Anderson next to him. So he pipes up. 'Hey Cass. Do ya mind if I call ya Cass?' and she shoots him a look as if to say 'You already av you dirty bastard'. And he goes 'Well, it looks like we're for the fuckin chop ere and I know there's all this bollocks about us Judges not shaggin and that, but seein as we're about to pop it do ya fancy givin us a quick 'Gamm'. Now Anderson is just about to give Dredd a fuckin good wollop round his head but just before she does he drops his keks. And do you know what saves him? That's right.
His massive fuckin helmet.

Step away from the weed and ring your local drugs counsellor
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 17 February, 2012, 08:59:47 PM
Just Gin and Juice tonight boy.But don't worry. I'll be sortin some high grade for later. Lol.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 17 February, 2012, 09:00:38 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 17 February, 2012, 08:46:27 PM
So Dredd Yeah. Finds himself pinned down by pure fuckin mad machine gun fire (could be an Uzi 9mm or some shit) inna Hab in Peach Tree with Judge Anderson next to him. So he pipes up. 'Hey Cass. Do ya mind if I call ya Cass?' and she shoots him a look as if to say 'You already av you dirty bastard'. And he goes 'Well, it looks like we're for the fuckin chop ere and I know there's all this bollocks about us Judges not shaggin and that, but seein as we're about to pop it do ya fancy givin us a quick 'Gamm'. Now Anderson is just about to give Dredd a fuckin good wollop round his head but just before she does he drops his keks. And do you know what saves him? That's right.
His massive fuckin helmet.
:lol:This must be some of that erotic fan-fiction I've heard about...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 17 February, 2012, 09:03:01 PM
Nah mate. That'd Giant instead Cass. It looks to me as if the the big man veers this way.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 17 February, 2012, 09:06:32 PM
So Santi Scinelli is cast as Resyc Man, So I wonder if We'll actually see Resyc in the film. But Who does Jason Cope play? Bad Guy number 1 maybe?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 17 February, 2012, 09:11:40 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 17 February, 2012, 08:46:27 PM
So Dredd Yeah. Finds himself pinned down by pure fuckin mad machine gun fire (could be an Uzi 9mm or some shit) inna Hab in Peach Tree with Judge Anderson next to him. So he pipes up. 'Hey Cass. Do ya mind if I call ya Cass?' and she shoots him a look as if to say 'You already av you dirty bastard'. And he goes 'Well, it looks like we're for the fuckin chop ere and I know there's all this bollocks about us Judges not shaggin and that, but seein as we're about to pop it do ya fancy givin us a quick 'Gamm'. Now Anderson is just about to give Dredd a fuckin good wollop round his head but just before she does he drops his keks. And do you know what saves him? That's right.
His massive fuckin helmet.

Are you Roy Chubby Brown's joke writer in disguise bigjobs? :lol:

Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 17 February, 2012, 09:06:32 PM
So Santi Scinelli is cast as Resyc Man, So I wonder if We'll actually see Resyc in the film. But Who does Jason Cope play? Bad Guy number 1 maybe?



I should think a resyc set wouldn't be too challenging to build, just a dark tunnel with a conveyor belt and lots of bodies.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 17 February, 2012, 09:17:17 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 17 February, 2012, 09:11:40 PM
I should think a resyc set wouldn't be too challenging to build, just a dark tunnel with a conveyor belt and lots of bodies.

The no imagination version, yes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 17 February, 2012, 09:23:09 PM
Mate. I'm only sharin what I've read of the leaked film script. Just wait till the film comes out and then you'll see.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 17 February, 2012, 09:25:56 PM
I know bubba, I've heard all about Dredd's oversized helmet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 17 February, 2012, 09:28:21 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 17 February, 2012, 09:17:17 PM
Quote from: wonkychop on 17 February, 2012, 09:11:40 PM
I should think a resyc set wouldn't be too challenging to build, just a dark tunnel with a conveyor belt and lots of bodies.

The no imagination version, yes.

No, the plenty of imagination, just no money, version.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jared Katooie on 17 February, 2012, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: bigjobs67 on 17 February, 2012, 09:23:09 PM
Mate. I'm only sharin what I've read of the leaked film script. Just wait till the film comes out and then you'll see.

No spoilers please bigjobs. No implied spoilers. No hinted spoilers. No no no none.

Otherwise, keep up the good work!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 17 February, 2012, 10:01:00 PM
Wilco.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge macbrayne on 17 February, 2012, 10:49:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2bsviGmkCo&feature=player_detailpage
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 17 February, 2012, 10:57:47 PM
McBrayne in da house!!! Got the Bass turned up one that one boy. lol
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 18 February, 2012, 01:24:28 AM
QuoteOlivia Thirlby Talks 'Dredd'

The co-star of the upcoming Judge Dredd movie on sequels, psychic powers and last year's controversy.
By Fred Topel
February 17, 2012
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I had a chance to sit in a roundtable interview with Olivia Thirlby for her new drama Being Flynn, which she actually shot immediately after Dredd, the new Judge Dredd movie. When conversation turned to Dredd, Thirlby confirmed in detail just how much ass she'll kick alongside Karl Urban.

"I do, I kick major butt in Dredd," Thirlby said. "I get to kill people. I break a guy's neck by roundhouse kicking him in the face. It was me, I did it. I learned how to roundhouse kick. I also do it with my hands cuffed behind my back so it's pretty cool I have to say. Yeah, leather body suit, blonde hair, the whole thing."

No helmet though. "No, actually. The helmet, you know what, I'm not going to say anything."

Thirlby does not reprise Diane Lane's character from the 1995 Stallone version. Rather she plays a character from the comic books. "Her name is Judge Anderson. She actually got her own little spinoff because she has psychic abilities. That was kind of my prep for the character although she was written by several different people, so depending on what comic you read, her persona is very different. Sometimes she's very sassy, she's got a lot of one-liners, she's very cool. Sometimes she's a lot more tortured. She's had some dark things happen to her so sometimes she can be a very tortured person."

The version of Anderson in Dredd seems to favor the more intense incarnations. "The character that Alex Garland wrote was just amazing. Probably the best action related script that I've read because it was really about the characters, really about this girl going through something intense. He wrote and was a very, very big part of it."

We're still waiting to see an official trailer, but Thirlby has seen a lot of the film finished. "I've done a lot of ADR so I've gotten to see a good portion of the film and I'm very happy with it. I'm very excited to see the final cut."

As to rumors that director Pete Travis was taken off the film, Thirlby says the movie that's coming together is still the film she signed up for. "Yeah, absolutely. Any filmmaking, any film is a collaborative process. There's always a lot of people working on things together. The whole filming process was wonderful and I think everything's going really well."

That's a little vague. So is Travis still on the film? "Mm hmm." Thirlby assures.

She is also diplomatic about the Stallone Judge Dredd movie. She says the rest of the Dredd production made little mention of it. "There were some jokes about gold codpieces but no, in general I think we appreciate the last Dredd but we're trying to make something very different."

It's still early, but Thirlby wants to do a sequel to Dredd. That makes it fair to assume Judge Anderson is still standing at the end. "It would be a dream to be able to play Anderson again because I really am quite fond of her."

Dredd, shot in 3D, opens in September.

Taken from http://www.craveonline.com/film/interviews/183331-olivia-thirlby-talks-dredd (http://www.craveonline.com/film/interviews/183331-olivia-thirlby-talks-dredd)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 18 February, 2012, 01:28:28 AM
I think I am in love with Olivia Thirlby.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 18 February, 2012, 01:32:25 AM
SHort INterview with Olivia Thirlby talking about Judge Anderson (http://www.hollywoodoutbreak.com/wp-content/uploads/olivia-thirlby-on-her-character-in-dredd.mp3)

Enjoy :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 18 February, 2012, 07:34:30 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 18 February, 2012, 01:24:28 AM
QuoteOlivia Thirlby Talks 'Dredd'

The co-star of the upcoming Judge Dredd movie on sequels, psychic powers and last year's controversy.
By Fred Topel
February 17, 2012

No helmet though. "No, actually. The helmet, you know what, I'm not going to say anything."

It's still early, but Thirlby wants to do a sequel to Dredd. That makes it fair to assume Judge Anderson is still standing at the end. "It would be a dream to be able to play Anderson again because I really am quite fond of her."

Taken from http://www.craveonline.com/film/interviews/183331-olivia-thirlby-talks-dredd (http://www.craveonline.com/film/interviews/183331-olivia-thirlby-talks-dredd)

That gives a fair bit away if we know she survives at the end of the film. I hope her and Dredd don't ride of into the sunset at the end as in the 1995 version.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 18 February, 2012, 12:34:16 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 18 February, 2012, 01:32:25 AM
SHort INterview with Olivia Thirlby talking about Judge Anderson (http://www.hollywoodoutbreak.com/wp-content/uploads/olivia-thirlby-on-her-character-in-dredd.mp3)
Enjoy :)

She seems fairly positive about her DREDD experience. Goody.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 18 February, 2012, 03:02:38 PM
Some great nuggets there!

Now lets hope we get a sequel!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 18 February, 2012, 04:08:58 PM
Apologies I should have edited that with some spolier inserts.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 18 February, 2012, 04:14:51 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 18 February, 2012, 04:08:58 PM
Apologies I should have edited that with some spolier inserts.

To be fair, it was a pretty forgone conclusion that Anderson made it to the end.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 18 February, 2012, 04:20:16 PM
Anderson makes it to the end  :o ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 18 February, 2012, 05:00:09 PM
Anderson is in this film?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 18 February, 2012, 05:03:55 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 18 February, 2012, 04:20:16 PM
Anderson makes it to the end  :o ?

Um, err, I meant to the end of the Sked-way of course!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 18 February, 2012, 06:44:56 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 18 February, 2012, 12:34:16 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 18 February, 2012, 01:32:25 AM
SHort INterview with Olivia Thirlby talking about Judge Anderson (http://www.hollywoodoutbreak.com/wp-content/uploads/olivia-thirlby-on-her-character-in-dredd.mp3)
Enjoy :)

She seems fairly positive about her DREDD experience. Goody.

Yes sounds as though she's pleased with the results. It sounds as if Judge Anderson has quite a substantial presence in the film and it's not all Dredd in the action scenes, so it's a good job Olivia Thirlby as Judge Anderson is pleasing to the eye, in contrast with Dredd's grim demeanour.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 18 February, 2012, 08:20:42 PM
Having again watched 'The Chronicles of Riddick' last night, Karl Urban is definitely going to give good Dredd.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 18 February, 2012, 11:49:03 PM
Seems like they have nailed the action ,provide good depth of characterisation with Anderson and a dark gritty tone that will appeal to many.
The dystopian future is also there and the cinematography ,given the production team on board ,will also no doubt be first class.
The big question remains over what will be the  'future vision ' itself.We have been promised that it will show the 'size and spectacle of Mega City', but so far have only seen near or contempary tech ,which, if it encompasses the whole film will be very disappointing.Hopefully the film is just set in a seedy sector, which is fine, so long as we do in fact see glimpses of the Mega City that we know.

A single image of Mega City would be great way to get a lot of people on board and create a buzz for the film.As other  posters have said it is perhaps the MAIN character to Dredd - so ..........

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 19 February, 2012, 12:26:25 AM
Personally, the ambulance and vehicles ( were they to be portrayed in the film as they have been seen in on set so far) wouldn't bother me, the crap out-dated van doesn't bother me, a 'less-than-mega-city-mega-city-one' doesn't bother me, all of this stuff is like the skin of an apple: perhaps nice , perhaps shiny, perhaps appealing but we Dredd aficionados have already been through the experience of biting into a shiny apple (various well-chosen stills of the Danny Cannon version would have pleased any ardent Dredd fan hoping to see his dreams on screen) and finding a worm in it, no...actually, finding half a worm in it... but what I'm after, this time round, is substance not surface, and Garland's script is good.
Publicity pics bedamned, trailer bedamned, I don't care if the apple we get is as ugly as a potato, because if this story is just simply well-told  that same apple will taste delicious.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 February, 2012, 12:59:26 AM
The only well chosen pics from the Danny twatting Cannon debacle that pleased the fans would probably have been the Angel Gang, the ABC warrior and the cityscape. Once the first pic of Stallone was revealed we all rolled our eyes and then plucked them out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 19 February, 2012, 01:05:03 AM
Film stills not well-done elements.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 19 February, 2012, 01:29:18 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 February, 2012, 12:59:26 AM
The only well chosen pics from the Danny twatting Cannon debacle that pleased the fans would probably have been the Angel Gang, the ABC warrior and the cityscape. Once the first pic of Stallone was revealed we all rolled our eyes and then plucked them out.

Even I knew that, and this was before I became part of the 2000ad crowd..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 February, 2012, 01:38:57 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 February, 2012, 12:59:26 AM
The only well chosen pics from the Danny twatting Cannon debacle that pleased the fans would probably have been the Angel Gang, the ABC warrior and the cityscape. Once the first pic of Stallone was revealed we all rolled our eyes and then plucked them out.

The angel gang imho were pretty nicely cast. looked the part, Pa looked good so did Junior, and Mean, link I cant remember so wont comment. Was fink in there too ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 February, 2012, 01:40:29 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 February, 2012, 01:38:57 AM
Was fink in there too ?


Nope.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Electromud on 19 February, 2012, 02:24:21 AM
I thought Fargo's long walk sequence was pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 19 February, 2012, 04:34:37 AM
I wholeheartedly agree, Fargo's 'long walk' sequence was truly epic and powerful, and gives you a glimpse into the film that Danny Cannon really wanted to make, had he been able to.  That sequence, plus the opening twenty minutes, and the final shot of Dredd atop his Lawmaster (such as it is) being the only things in that film that actually remotely qualify as a Judge Dredd film per se, and that amounts to about 22 minutes of an overall 96 minutes in total... which really says it all about that film!

But, for those with a pathological need to inflict pain upon oneself, here's the whole sorry mess in HD quality - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CNgHHjN-4k - I tried to sit through it and got no further than the trial sequence before I simply had to turn it off, which is the first time I've actually done that with this movie... and the great thing about that is I realised it's finally let go of me, it's finally flushed out of my system, I'm finally rid of it, I'M FREE, praise the Lord, I'M FINALLY FREE :D :D :D :D :D :D...!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 19 February, 2012, 06:54:07 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 19 February, 2012, 04:34:37 AM
I wholeheartedly agree, Fargo's 'long walk' sequence was truly epic and powerful, and gives you a glimpse into the film that Danny Cannon really wanted to make, had he been able to.  That sequence, plus the opening twenty minutes, and the final shot of Dredd atop his Lawmaster (such as it is) being the only things in that film that actually remotely qualify as a Judge Dredd film per se, and that amounts to about 22 minutes of an overall 96 minutes in total... which really says it all about that film!

But, for those with a pathological need to inflict pain upon oneself, here's the whole sorry mess in HD quality - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CNgHHjN-4k - I tried to sit through it and got no further than the trial sequence before I simply had to turn it off, which is the first time I've actually done that with this movie... and the great thing about that is I realised it's finally let go of me, it's finally flushed out of my system, I'm finally rid of it, I'M FREE, praise the Lord, I'M FINALLY FREE :D :D :D :D :D :D...!!!
I know what you mean,just done the same thing with Star Wars,I was into that almost as much as Mr Commando is in to his 2000ad stuff,I have a room full........but no more will I blindly swallow Lucas's filth.
Part of the reason I tuned back into the Dreddverse.
Wheel of time helped ALOT too.

I'm going to be subscribing to 2000ad again soon as I move house.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 19 February, 2012, 06:58:03 AM
A bit harsh Beaky, though I mainly agree. I thought Rico was quite watchable as a villian even though he was not the 2000ad version.

When the new DREDD is out in September I doubt we will ever hear anything said again about the 1995 version. Like darnmarr I'm more into substance rather than surface and so I remain philosophical about the alleged low tech character of the ambulance and vehicles and lack of stock characters like Judge Death or Angel Gang.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 19 February, 2012, 07:00:33 AM
....and why the fudge do they need words scrolling onscreen AND a bloody voice over.

Hope the new Dredds successful enough so that Cannon is allowed to go back and give a directors cut.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Electromud on 19 February, 2012, 07:21:32 AM
I think I remember reading an old Stallone interview where he mentions additional footage featuring the fully matured clones.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 19 February, 2012, 08:06:20 AM
I read it was more violent,would like to see at least the US version in the UK.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 February, 2012, 09:10:10 AM
It was cut down to avoid an R, which I think it got anyway. Not sure why they didn't just reinstate the footage if the MPAA were being dicks over it.

I suspect the ridiculous pinball table noises of the lawgiver was part of the ratings thing as well...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 February, 2012, 09:13:51 AM
don't say that you haven't seen the pics of Stallone blasting the clones with the shotgun  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 19 February, 2012, 09:37:57 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 February, 2012, 01:40:29 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 February, 2012, 01:38:57 AM
Was fink in there too ?


Nope.

Yet he is named in the credits thought , oddly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 19 February, 2012, 10:08:49 AM
Yeah its a disappointing film to say the very least but I've sat and watched umpteen times. Went to see it on its release. Bought it VHS. Bought it on DVD and will now promptly buy it again on Blue Ray with hopefully lots of extras like an extended cut and making of.
Don't know what that say's about me other than I was so in love with Dredd @ that time and subsequently (not in gay way. Well not entirely) that I just couldn't help myself.
Having said that there's so much to commend about this film in a 'If only' kinda way.
It does have this 'Roman epic' vibe running through it which Cannon was tryin to achieve and some fantastic Kev Walker and Chris Cunningham designed props and characters (Mean Machine chief amongst them) and I love that the absolutely bonkers Armand Assante is in it and lets not forget Jurgen Prochnow and the mighty Max Von Sydow.And a final film performance from Ian Dury not long before he died. DANG!!! Think I might dig it out and watch it for the, what comes after umpteen?

All together now....."Status? Bodyguard. Commander? Rico. Mission? Mission,We're going to war. WARRRR..." Lol.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 19 February, 2012, 10:35:35 AM
There were some great visuals in there,would be easy to cut a decent 'trailer' making it look like the best film ever...it just falsl apart as soon as any 'acting' by Sly or Rob takes place,that and the helmet removal just killed it stone dead for me.

The bit where Dredd pops around the door lawgiver blazing on rapid fire fucking nails it.

Not seen Sly blasting clones but I'm sure I saw Mean headbutt somebody(Dredd i think) but thats not on my DVD.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 February, 2012, 10:40:20 AM
Quote from: strontium71 on 19 February, 2012, 09:37:57 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 February, 2012, 01:40:29 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 February, 2012, 01:38:57 AM
Was fink in there too ?


Nope.

Yet he is named in the credits thought , oddly.


It's a mistake, they credited Phil Smeeton as Fink when it shoulda been Link.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 February, 2012, 10:44:36 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 19 February, 2012, 10:35:35 AM
There were some great visuals in there,would be easy to cut a decent 'trailer' making it look like the best film ever...it just falsl apart as soon as any 'acting' by Sly or Rob takes place,that and the helmet removal just killed it stone dead for me.

The bit where Dredd pops around the door lawgiver blazing on rapid fire fucking nails it.

Not seen Sly blasting clones but I'm sure I saw Mean headbutt somebody(Dredd i think) but thats not on my DVD.

Headbutts tended to be cut on UK releases, not sure what the current position is but the BBFC took a dim view on them in case kids copied them.

Earclaps are or were another no-no.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 February, 2012, 10:52:58 AM
BBC were never bothered about Yosser in Boys from the Blackstuff.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 February, 2012, 11:44:30 AM
Not exactly the same thing...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 19 February, 2012, 12:07:38 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 19 February, 2012, 10:44:36 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 19 February, 2012, 10:35:35 AM
There were some great visuals in there,would be easy to cut a decent 'trailer' making it look like the best film ever...it just falsl apart as soon as any 'acting' by Sly or Rob takes place,that and the helmet removal just killed it stone dead for me.

The bit where Dredd pops around the door lawgiver blazing on rapid fire fucking nails it.

Not seen Sly blasting clones but I'm sure I saw Mean headbutt somebody(Dredd i think) but thats not on my DVD.

Headbutts tended to be cut on UK releases, not sure what the current position is but the BBFC took a dim view on them in case kids copied them.

Earclaps are or were another no-no.
Having been on the receiving end of a level 4 corker that made me look like Otto Sump for 2 weeks I can see why.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 19 February, 2012, 12:24:31 PM
And yet mutilations are allowed in films like Saw anf Human Centipede... (seen none of those by the way)

Censors are pretty inconsistent.  I know that Stallone film wasn't an 18.  But shooting is OK, stabbing is ok, headbutt is cut...

I censor films myself, by not going to see something I know I won't like, Sucvh as Human Centipede and Stallone's Dredd.

OK I saw Stallone's Dredd on DVD, even own the sucker, but that's beside the point, I didn't go to cinema as I already knew there was too much in it I wouldn't like.  Over saturated media spin...

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 February, 2012, 12:44:13 PM
They did go a bit nuts in the 90s - for them it's all about imitable content.

They're obviously worried about kids going round headbutting or earclapping each other.

Setting up elaborate torture mechanisms or stitching multiple a2m victims is probably too much effort for kids these days.

Oh and Human Centipede 2 got cut for UK release even at 18.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 19 February, 2012, 01:04:41 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 19 February, 2012, 10:44:36 AMHeadbutts tended to be cut on UK releases

Trading multiple headbutts are cut only if distributors want a lower rating, IIRC. That's why THE MATRIX was snipped for its UK release even though Warner Bros. was offered an 18 uncut.

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 February, 2012, 10:52:58 AMBBC were never bothered about Yosser in Boys from the Blackstuff.

Auntie isn't regulated by the BBFC. The BBFC can only dictate cuts for cinema/video/DvD/Blu Ray releases, not TV broadcasts. Again, the issue would only be if Yosser was depicted trading multiple headbutts and the BBC wanted a certificate lower than an '18'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 February, 2012, 01:10:54 PM
Quote from: Eric Plumrose on 19 February, 2012, 01:04:41 PM

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 February, 2012, 10:52:58 AMBBC were never bothered about Yosser in Boys from the Blackstuff.

Auntie isn't regulated by the BBFC. The BBFC can only dictate cuts for cinema/video/DvD/Blu Ray releases, not TV broadcasts. Again, the issue would only be if Yosser was depicted trading multiple headbutts and the BBC wanted a certificate lower than an '18'.


I know all that, but it's just silly. There were plenty of punches in Dredd, is punching not considered imitable too?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 19 February, 2012, 02:11:44 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 February, 2012, 01:10:54 PMI know all that

I would've been surprised if you didn't but I think it's worth mentioning, nonetheless.

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 February, 2012, 01:10:54 PMThere were plenty of punches in Dredd, is punching not considered imitable too?

I suspect it's because a headbutt is more novel; it's therefore perceived as being more cool than a punch and thus more likely to be imitated. Also, a punch can be directed anywhere whereas headbutts are invariably delivered to someone else's head; IIRC, the BBFC's concern is not only the injury sustained to the nuttee but also that likely sustained by the nutter. Hence, the real-world damage is factored in: a head injury to either party, in the BBFC's opinion, is worse than that to someone administering a punch never mind the poor sod receiving it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 19 February, 2012, 02:21:41 PM
Didn't the bbfc used to ban/censor everything with nun-chucks in?

Istr some pretty innocuous films running into trouble for this reason.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 February, 2012, 02:27:32 PM
Pretty much, I seem to recall even one of the TMNT films had a chain of sausages cut because it resembled them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ferman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ferman)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 19 February, 2012, 02:37:39 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 19 February, 2012, 12:44:13 PM
They did go a bit nuts in the 90s - for them it's all about imitable content.

They're obviously worried about kids going round headbutting or earclapping each other.

Setting up elaborate torture mechanisms or stitching multiple a2m victims is probably too much effort for kids these days.

Oh and Human Centipede 2 got cut for UK release even at 18.
But is still a tad more violent and objectionable than a head butt...

Also, I'm agreeing with Joe Soap.  Everything he said in his last few posts on this thread, he's right.

I now want the Angel Gang in the Dredd sequel with Mean going up to 4!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 19 February, 2012, 02:53:10 PM
The 'cool-factor' of the nunchaku and its use by gangs so-say inspired by the kung fu craze was what led James Ferman in particular to make the decision. Not only TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES (as mentioned) but DRAGNET, also. A conversation between Dan Ackroyd and Tom Hanks was excised simply because there was, behind them, a poster of Bruce Lee holding the dreaded chain-sticks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 19 February, 2012, 03:42:43 PM
If they portrayed Mean as he is envisaged between the pages of 2000ad as a retarded sub species then I can't see how anyone would want to set out to imitate a character so moronic as him : "Duurrr Pa ! Look! It's Judge Dredd! Let me go up on 4 at him!"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 19 February, 2012, 04:12:00 PM
Quote from: fonky on 19 February, 2012, 03:42:43 PMIf they portrayed Mean as he is envisaged between the pages of 2000ad as a retarded sub species then I can't see how anyone would want to set out to imitate a character so moronic as him : "Duurrr Pa ! Look! It's Judge Dredd! Let me go up on 4 at him!"

If someone's so inclined to repeat what's seen on-screen I somehow doubt a movie character's intelligence will make them think twice.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goosegash on 19 February, 2012, 04:46:55 PM
Quote from: Eric Plumrose on 19 February, 2012, 02:11:44 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 February, 2012, 01:10:54 PMI know all that

I would've been surprised if you didn't but I think it's worth mentioning, nonetheless.

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 February, 2012, 01:10:54 PMThere were plenty of punches in Dredd, is punching not considered imitable too?

I suspect it's because a headbutt is more novel; it's therefore perceived as being more cool than a punch and thus more likely to be imitated. Also, a punch can be directed anywhere whereas headbutts are invariably delivered to someone else's head; IIRC, the BBFC's concern is not only the injury sustained to the nuttee but also that likely sustained by the nutter. Hence, the real-world damage is factored in: a head injury to either party, in the BBFC's opinion, is worse than that to someone administering a punch never mind the poor sod receiving it.

I think headbutts were still considered contentious up until the early 2000s at least - I seem to recall an episode of Farscape ended up getting an 18 certificate on DVD on the strength of a single headbutt.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 19 February, 2012, 05:18:12 PM
I read the other day that 90s kids tv series Alex Mack has got a 15 on DVD because of an episode where a child gets into a tumble dryer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 19 February, 2012, 08:28:06 PM
Whilst lovingly studying the up and coming DREDD pic's (with much anticipation for the movie) l noticed what looks like a shopping trolley in the background shot of Anderson blowing the perps head off.  I'm due my eye test at specsavers so this observation might be wrong.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 February, 2012, 08:37:23 PM

I know it silly but just saw Michael Fassbender on Top Gear, thought he perfect for Cal!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 19 February, 2012, 08:40:15 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 19 February, 2012, 08:37:23 PM

I know it silly but just saw Michael Fassbender on Top Gear, thought he perfect for Cal!

Good call Goaty.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 February, 2012, 08:45:52 PM
He'd be better as Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 19 February, 2012, 09:24:07 PM
Quote from: Eric Plumrose on 19 February, 2012, 04:12:00 PM
Quote from: fonky on 19 February, 2012, 03:42:43 PMIf they portrayed Mean as he is envisaged between the pages of 2000ad as a retarded sub species then I can't see how anyone would want to set out to imitate a character so moronic as him : "Duurrr Pa ! Look! It's Judge Dredd! Let me go up on 4 at him!"

If someone's so inclined to repeat what's seen on-screen I somehow doubt a movie character's intelligence will make them think twice.

People are more likely to act out a story that they read in the papers or see on the news, because it is presented as FACT, than they would with a film or book that is presented to them as being made up, fiction.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 February, 2012, 09:25:25 PM
Are they? Seems as mad as saying the films and games did it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 19 February, 2012, 09:49:03 PM
Not sure on that score? Think Goaty has got That down pat.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 19 February, 2012, 10:04:36 PM
I can't believe a discussion of censorship now seems to show some people on the forum really give solid credence to the 'a film/game/comic' made him want to do it crowd...

Whilst a small proportion of quite bad things perpetrated by people have been put down to this subject it is a very small factor in most cases and a very low amount of crimes in the first place.

Film censors shift greatly over years on what they allow and do not allow.  They are stricter than TV most of the time.

Given the level of knife crime in the UK and gun crime in many parts of the UK... a head butt scene being censored but the other violence getting through is a little reactionary.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 19 February, 2012, 10:18:20 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 19 February, 2012, 10:04:36 PMI can't believe a discussion of censorship now seems to show some people on the forum really give solid credence to the 'a film/game/comic' made him want to do it crowd...

Some people? Bigjobs is the only person who's come close to doing that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 19 February, 2012, 10:31:02 PM
So Dredd Yeah. He's checkin himself out in his Rowedy Yates block |Hab front room mirror (Inna Will 'The fukin ledge' Simpson stylee) Thinkin, "Thank fuck I'm not in that massive bummer 'Jenny Paul Gaultqueers' spandax outfit this time round" When all of a sudden up pops Mean (The Chris Cunningham designed)Machine Angel.
He's some how in the Hab and Garland can't explain why...and oooofff! He plants an outstanding Glasgow Kiss right in the middle of Dredds head.
And do you Know what saves him......?
His massive fuckin helmet.
Thats how it plays Bitches. Believe.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 19 February, 2012, 10:34:59 PM
You're the worst character ever, Towelie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 19 February, 2012, 10:43:29 PM
I'm sure Judge Dredd would easily pass with a 15 uncut on Blu/DVD these days if Disney, or who every owns the rights these days can be bothered to re-submit it to the BBFC.
Boring story: I met James Ferman once during a test screening of Batman Forever, just before the BBFC butchered it by around 2 minutes. Said it was a boring story.

Anyway the history of Judge Dredd and the censors is a fairly interesting one for those interested in censorship.

Hollywood Pictures were crying out for a PG-13 from the MPAA when it was submitted originally. The MPAA however slapped it with an R rating. The film was re-submitted with some edits for violence but it was still given an R.

Probably realising the writing was on the wall and that Dredd would get an R whatever was trimmed, the offending material was re-instated and the film was released as an R in the States.

In the U.K. the same version was given a 15 uncut rating at the cinema. Those pesky Mean Machine headbutts were trimmed for the eventual video and DVD release in the U.K, resulting in 2 seconds of cuts,  while every other territory got the uncut U.S version (pick up the German Blu-Ray if you want it in its uncut "glory."

Of course there's still all that cut footage, amounting to 30 minutes worth of material if some reports are to believed, that may never see the light of day and couls result in a radically different film to the one we got!

Phew!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 19 February, 2012, 10:47:43 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 19 February, 2012, 08:28:06 PM
Whilst lovingly studying the up and coming DREDD pic's (with much anticipation for the movie) l noticed what looks like a shopping trolley in the background shot of Anderson blowing the perps head off.  I'm due my eye test at specsavers so this observation might be wrong.

Well FFS don't tell Sc*j*, he spent one week arguing with himself about the van (he was wrong) and he has spent this week arguing with himself about a skip (again, he's wrong.) If he thinks there's a shopping trolley in a shot he'll implode!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 February, 2012, 10:48:30 PM
I like the trolley and the yellow-carrier bags spilling out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 February, 2012, 11:06:44 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 19 February, 2012, 10:47:43 PM

Well FFS don't tell Sc*j*, he spent one week arguing with himself about the van (he was wrong) and he has spent this week arguing with himself about a skip (again, he's wrong.) If he thinks there's a shopping trolley in a shot he'll implode!

When does he ever right?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 19 February, 2012, 11:06:59 PM
The shopping trolley will be replaced by a CGI Mechanismo robot!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 19 February, 2012, 11:13:53 PM
I wonder if they shipped that trolley in from the U. K.  ? ...  or if it's CGI?  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 19 February, 2012, 11:17:47 PM
No Fukin way! I want shoppin trolleys scatterin all over the place.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jared Katooie on 20 February, 2012, 12:05:11 AM
bigjobs67, you're my new favourite person.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 20 February, 2012, 01:46:48 AM
Quote from: dracula1 on 19 February, 2012, 11:13:53 PM
I wonder if they shipped that trolley in from the U. K.  ? ...  or if it's CGI?  :)

Not only is that trolley cgi but the composite artist has left the cred in the slot
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 20 February, 2012, 03:00:47 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 19 February, 2012, 10:43:29 PM
Hollywood Pictures were crying out for a PG-13 from the MPAA when it was submitted originally. The MPAA however slapped it with an R rating. The film was re-submitted with some edits for violence but it was still given an R.
Probably realising the writing was on the wall and that Dredd would get an R whatever was trimmed, the offending material was re-instated and the film was released as an R in the States.
Of course there's still all that cut footage, amounting to 30 minutes worth of material if some reports are to believed, that may never see the light of day and couls result in a radically different film to the one we got!

Well, if that's true (it certainly sounds it), then the editing was worse than we thought, the entire climactic sequence featuring the hatched clones looks like it's been edited with a machete, if they reinstated the cut footage, then where's the shot(s) of Sly blasting the heck outta the clones, amongst others?

As far as deleted footage, I think I heard somewhere that the first assembly cut ran about 130 minutes - whether that included the reshoots footage or not, I don't know - and Danny Cannon did indeed edit together his preferred version into an actual cut, but Sly exerted his star-power, shot new footage himself, and basically controlled the final cut, although Danny Cannon had hoped for his version to be released on a Laserdisc 'director's cut' release, but it never panned out unfortunately, although now would be the perfect time to release that version, what with the new adaptation hitting cinemas, and the fact Danny Cannon basically works for Disney now, with his involvement in the CSI franchise, so it wouldn't be much of a stretch.  Mind you, I think Cannon's cut would be more a case of HOW the film's edited rather than just a plethora of previously unseen footage, but if Buena Vista did release a 'director's cut' version of that movie, I would definitely be tempted to take another dip...

It wasn't even the story, casting, or the fact they tried to reach a broad audience (which I completely understand and agree with) I had a problem with, it was the fact that what that movie could have been was severely sabotaged by an egomaniacal, overpampered, and grossly overpaid lead star who refused to serve the material, rather forcing the material to serve him, and instead of giving Danny Cannon the benefit of advice from his long experience and considerable talent as a director himself, he treated the young British filmmaker as a glorified floor manager, cutting him out of the final creative process, and ensuring the final film would be a confused mess and a box-office bomb (effectively sabotaging Cannon's burgeoning film career as a result) and even badmouthing the finished product at the time of it's release, bad form doesn't even come close to describing Stallone's behaviour on that whole project... and that's not even getting started on Steven DeSouza's utter mangling of what I've heard was a pretty darn good first draft of the script written by William Wisher and veteran screenwriter Walon Green (which I'd sure love to read)!

Sorry for the sheer length of this post everybody, but I just wanted to be sure I got everything out before I sign off on this film permanently, in other words, short of a 'director's cut' release, this will absolutely, positively, wholeheartedly, unreservedly, emphatically, and unanimously be MY FINAL COMMENTS on this movie forevermore... full stop, period, end of subject (for me anyway), turn the page, end transmission, 'nuff said :-X.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 20 February, 2012, 06:32:49 AM
Quote from: Bat King on 19 February, 2012, 10:04:36 PM
I can't believe a discussion of censorship now seems to show some people on the forum really give solid credence to the 'a film/game/comic' made him want to do it crowd...

Whilst a small proportion of quite bad things perpetrated by people have been put down to this subject it is a very small factor in most cases and a very low amount of crimes in the first place.

Film censors shift greatly over years on what they allow and do not allow.  They are stricter than TV most of the time.

Given the level of knife crime in the UK and gun crime in many parts of the UK... a head butt scene being censored but the other violence getting through is a little reactionary.


I've always thought that someone is more likely to learn how to become a criminal through the day to day constant flow of newspapers and television reporting such things, than through reading "Crime and Punishment" or by playing Grand Auto Theft.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 20 February, 2012, 06:39:35 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 20 February, 2012, 03:00:47 AM
Sorry for the sheer length of this post everybody, but I just wanted to be sure I got everything out before I sign off on this film permanently, in other words, short of a 'director's cut' release, this will absolutely, positively, wholeheartedly, unreservedly, emphatically, and unanimously be MY FINAL COMMENTS on this movie forevermore... full stop, period, end of subject (for me anyway), turn the page, end transmission, 'nuff said :-X.

Fingers crossed then Beaky, that you won't be back in 7 months time saying how bad the next Dredd film is. Or do you already know something? Do you have inside information? Mmmm?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 20 February, 2012, 08:18:55 AM
Quote from: Jared Katooie on 20 February, 2012, 12:05:11 AM
bigjobs67, you're my new favourite person.

Cheers mate.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 20 February, 2012, 01:55:03 PM
Re: the shopping trolley. Alex Garland has a thing for them. Remember the tower block in 28 Days Later with the blocked up stairwell?

BTW Didn't realise he wrote Never Let Me Go - I was very impressed when I saw that the other day.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 20 February, 2012, 02:15:13 PM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 20 February, 2012, 01:55:03 PM
Re: the shopping trolley. Alex Garland has a thing for them. Remember the tower block in 28 Days Later with the blocked up stairwell?

BTW Didn't realise he wrote Never Let Me Go - I was very impressed when I saw that the other day.
Nice observation Glen ... looks like the vision of this film is very future present.  I kind of understand the comparisons they've made with Clock work Orange now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 20 February, 2012, 02:29:33 PM
Quote from: Eric Plumrose on 19 February, 2012, 10:18:20 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 19 February, 2012, 10:04:36 PMI can't believe a discussion of censorship now seems to show some people on the forum really give solid credence to the 'a film/game/comic' made him want to do it crowd...

Some people? Bigjobs is the only person who's come close to doing that.

I guess so... but it generated a conversation, instead of being ignored (or rebuffed).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Emperor on 20 February, 2012, 03:38:48 PM
Quote from: Jared Katooie on 20 February, 2012, 12:05:11 AMbigjobs67, you're my new favourite person.

As the first person to express an interest, you have won him. He is parcelled up and winging his way to the Katooie Mansion and Singing Pub as I type this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 20 February, 2012, 04:18:09 PM
How much did you pay?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 20 February, 2012, 06:47:57 PM
What ever it was he was robbed. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 20 February, 2012, 08:07:14 PM
Fonky. How the fuck did you get more stars than me? If we had started work together in a Macky D's back in the 80's this would mean that you were now deemed well trained enough to cook those fuckin lovely burgers they do so well whilst I on the other hand would still be fryin chips. No fair.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 20 February, 2012, 08:10:59 PM
Bigjobs67 its because you don't spout as much shit as Fonky  ;)





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 February, 2012, 08:15:05 PM
Depends on who you ask vizzy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 20 February, 2012, 08:25:10 PM
I suppose Quality shit and Quantity shit even out.
I mean there is enough Floating around this board. Guilty as charged.





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 20 February, 2012, 08:37:43 PM
Don't be down on Fonky. He's fam' innit. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 February, 2012, 08:52:30 PM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 20 February, 2012, 03:00:47 AM

It wasn't even the story, casting, or the fact they tried to reach a broad audience (which I completely understand and agree with) I had a problem with, it was the fact that what that movie could have been was severely sabotaged by an egomaniacal, overpampered, and grossly overpaid lead star who refused to serve the material, rather forcing the material to serve him, and instead of giving Danny Cannon the benefit of advice from his long experience and considerable talent as a director himself, he treated the young British filmmaker as a glorified floor manager, cutting him out of the final creative process, and ensuring the final film would be a confused mess and a box-office bomb (effectively sabotaging Cannon's burgeoning film career as a result) and even badmouthing the finished product at the time of it's release, bad form doesn't even come close to describing Stallone's behaviour on that whole project... and that's not even getting started on Steven DeSouza's utter mangling of what I've heard was a pretty darn good first draft of the script written by William Wisher and veteran screenwriter Walon Green (which I'd sure love to read)


If Stallone hadn't signed on there'd be no film -unfortunately there is and it was more or less his production- but the blame should be shared between all involved at that level.


Walon Green is not creditied on Wisher's original draft.


The main beats of the Wisher '93 Dredd script:


First shot is a track moving up from the base of the Statue of Liberty bearing the inscription "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free.." to reveal the Statue of Judgment towering above it. The city is revealed as the shot pans around.


Title: Mega-City-One 2115



The story starts with the block war (block militias) Fergie (under parole) and one member of the League of Fatties. The block war goes on a lot longer and is more fleshed out as Dredd, Hershey and fellow Judges storm the blocks. Fergie is arrested.


A disillusioned Chief Judge Fargo retires early on due to old age and his desponency with the increasing uncontrollability of city crime rather than Dredd's murder conviction. The egotistical Griffin naturally succeeds as Chief Judge rather than from a particularly overt coup using Rico as muscle. Fargo takes the Long Walk in a duster coat and wide-brimmed hat.


As Griffin assumes his chiefdom, the prison warden in Aspen blackmails him to bring him back to the city and give him a seat on the Council of Five by using the threat of the truth of his past and releasing Rico (known as Joe Rico and believed dead) from prison. Griffin agrees as long as he brings Rico's head back to the city with him.


Citizens' representative Vardis Hammond accuses Dredd of heavy-handed tyrannical behaviour at the Block War. Griffin defends Dredd and a harsher regime under Griffin ensues: curfews, stricter laws etc.


Rico in Aspen -now mutated and more muscular from years of working in the Radioactive Ore mines that powers the city- breaks out after the prison warden tries to take his head. Rico declares his mission to take back what he sees is his...the title of Chief Judge. Rico escapes to the city with a gang of other mutant prisoners and makes it back to the city hidden in an Ore train.

Dredd continues to dispense justice on the streets of the Meg.

Back in the Meg, Rico begins threatening Griffin who fears him for what he knows about his past and the "Apollo" project.

Unbeknownst to Dredd, Rico is back and alive. Rico kills Vardis Hammond and Dredd is framed from the DNA at the scene.

Dredd is sent to Aspen on a shuttle with Fergie. Dredd realises he's been wronged and must return to the city. Stages a mutiny with Fergie and turns the ship around. With not enough fuel they crash land in the Cursed Earth. Making their way back to the Meg on foot they reach a village under an old freeway system where they discover the inhabitants are all dead from arrows. The reason for the killings are.....GILA MUNJA not the ANGEL GANG. Dredd and Fergie are attacked by the band of Gila Munja, dispatch a few of them but they are outnumbered. Fargo pops up and saves them before getting a final arrow through the chest.

A dying Fargo tells Dredd the truth about his clone-hood in the "Apollo" project, how it was Griffin's idea to clone Fargo to create the perfect Judge. It is also explained that Griffin secretly cloned Rico as a back-up to Dredd and that the clones had been tweaked to look different to hide this fact from Fargo. Rico performs better than Dredd but runs amok. Dredd arrrests him....you know the rest.

A doubting but soon reborn Dredd returns to the city wearing Fargo's duster coat, hat and badge. He and Fergie gain entrance to the city by Dredd posing as Fargo, returning Fergie as his prisoner from the shuttle crash.

Dredd and Fergie find the city in chaos under Griffin's inept yet still tyrannical regime. Rico and his gang of mutants seize the moment and begin their revolution by inciting a rebellion against Judges in the process of arresting the manager of an "Otto Sump Gungeteria" where a League of Fatties stuff their faces. Rico promises to liberate the citizens from Griffin and calls on all the cits and civillian defence corps to give him their weapons and stockpile them for a new militia.

Rico's army grows, taking sector by sector as the citizens overwhelm the Judges. Rico becomes more tyrannical than Griffin and takes over half the city while adorning himself with a new Nazi style Judge uniform. Dredd and Fergie decide to infiltrate Rico's militia by joining up. Meanwhile, within the embattled and cowering Council of Five, Griffin is forced to meet with Rico at an old location outside the Hall of Justice to discuss Rico's future as Chief Judge.

The meet is arranged.

Griffin is escorted by judges to the location (the old derelict cloning lab where the Apollo project took place) where Rico and his Militia arrive while a hit team consisting of Hershey and othe Judges scale the building taking positions to assassinate Rico. Dredd makes his way in. A shoot-out ensues after Rico tells Griffin what he wants and Griffin complies. Dredd, Hershey and Fergie escape during the bullet-fest into the uderground sewers as Rico, his army of perps and cits make their way to the Hall of Justice with Griffin at gunpoint.


In the sewers Dredd, Hershey and Fergie meet Fergie's old gang and a bunch of cadets who've hidden themselves from the chaos above. By burning torch-light they climb from the sewers into the "Museum of Justice" where they raid the old gun collection and Dredd adorns a display uniform; a cadet scratches "Dredd" upon the badge.


Dredd and his cadet/urchin army march with their torches on the Hall of Justice as embittered citizens swell their numbers with tire-irons and guns. They storm the gates battling Rico's army on the steps and make their way in as Rico attains the chains of office with the Council of Five at gun-point. Dredd and his army burst into the chamber, shoot the place up and by blowing a hole in the wall, Rico escapes and acquires a Lawmaster; Dredd follows likewise. They make it to the Statue of Judgement. They both climb it's inner structure, brawl, a hole is blown in the side and they fight on the top of the huge badge. They fall over on to the belt buckle below. Dredd blows Rico away and he falls into the torch of Liberty below where his body burns.


Fergie runs off with his gang and a dispensation. Hershey is made Chief Judge. Dredd returns to the streets.


No kiss but there is a smile.



It is a different script but it still ain't what a Dredd film should be and Dredd is still not Dredd, he's again portrayed as being a bit dumb; not nearly intimidating/authoritarian enough and they do try to humanise him but it is at least better than the complete mess that ended up as the film. Fergie's not wise-cracking as much, there's no Angel Gang, Joan Chen, ABC Warrior or clone army sub-plot either.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: bigjobs67 on 20 February, 2012, 09:02:38 PM
But his shoulder pads are like well gold and shit (and his ass is kina cute lookin in thoses tight lycra trousers. Don't pretend you've never noticed) ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 20 February, 2012, 09:10:37 PM
What might have been eh?

Don't care for the pointless GILA MUNJA episode but like the bit about Judge Dredd returning to the city wearing Fargo's Hat and coat ala  Dead man style.

The big climatic battle between Rico and Joe Dredd seems similar to the one in the Stallone [a]version but the citz and muties clashing would have been a Mega city rumble to die for!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 20 February, 2012, 09:13:13 PM
That sounds better than what we got, but a bit overblown and still sounds a bit too much like the old dynastic power struggle which was always the wrong tack to take for a Dredd film.

Why should the audience care who's in charge of mega city when they barely know the place?

Like the tip of the hat to Necropolis/Dead Man though, that would have been sweet, and it at least sounds a little closer to the comics with the fatties etc. would have been cool to see a mutated, freaky Rico too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 February, 2012, 09:33:20 PM
Quote from: radiator on 20 February, 2012, 09:13:13 PM
That sounds better than what we got, but a bit overblown and still sounds a bit too much like the old dynastic power struggle which was always the wrong tack to take for a Dredd film.

Why should the audience care who's in charge of mega city when they barely know the place?


It was either this or the Briggs brothers Death script, both intended for Arnie. Pressman wanted Death, Lippincott wanted Rico. Arnie was to choose which one he liked best and that would be filmed first. The biggest cock-block was always the desire of the producers for Dredd to have the broadest appeal starting from the youngest upwards. Pressman's desire to do Death was another mistake, as was Lippincott's Rico; the next was hiring Stallone after Arnie's drop-out. It should've died right there.


Quote from: radiator on 20 February, 2012, 09:13:13 PM
Like the tip of the hat to Necropolis/Dead Man though, that would have been sweet


...and the kids in the Undercity.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 February, 2012, 09:34:02 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 February, 2012, 09:33:20 PM
Quote from: radiator on 20 February, 2012, 09:13:13 PM
That sounds better than what we got, but a bit overblown and still sounds a bit too much like the old dynastic power struggle which was always the wrong tack to take for a Dredd film.



It was either this or the Briggs brothers Death script, both intended for Arnie. Pressman wanted Death, Lippincott wanted Rico. Arnie was to choose which one he liked best and that would be filmed first. The biggest cock-block was always the desire of the producers for Dredd to have the broadest appeal starting from the youngest upwards. Pressman's desire to do Death was another mistake, as was Lippincott's Rico; the next was hiring Stallone after Arnie's drop-out. It should've died right there.


Quote from: radiator on 20 February, 2012, 09:13:13 PM
Like the tip of the hat to Necropolis/Dead Man though, that would have been sweet


...and the kids in the Undercity.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 20 February, 2012, 09:45:33 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 February, 2012, 08:52:30 PM
If Stallone hadn't signed on there'd be no film -unfortunately there is and it was more or less his production- but the blame should be shared between all involved at that level.


Walon Green is not creditied on Wisher's original draft.


The main beats of the Wisher '93 Dredd script:


First shot is a track moving up from the base of the Statue of Liberty bearing the inscription "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free.." to reveal the Statue of Judgment towering above it. The city is revealed as the shot pans around.


Title: Mega-City-One 2115



The story starts with the block war (block militias) Fergie (under parole) and one member of the League of Fatties. The block war goes on a lot longer and is more fleshed out as Dredd, Hershey and fellow Judges storm the blocks. Fergie is arrested.


A disillusioned Chief Judge Fargo retires early on due to old age and his desponency with the increasing uncontrollability of city crime rather than Dredd's murder conviction. The egotistical Griffin naturally succeeds as Chief Judge rather than from a particularly overt coup using Rico as muscle. Fargo takes the Long Walk in a duster coat and wide-brimmed hat.


As Griffin assumes his chiefdom, the prison warden in Aspen blackmails him to bring him back to the city and give him a seat on the Council of Five by using the threat of the truth of his past and releasing Rico (known as Joe Rico and believed dead) from prison. Griffin agrees as long as he brings Rico's head back to the city with him.


Citizens' representative Vardis Hammond accuses Dredd of heavy-handed tyrannical behaviour at the Block War. Griffin defends Dredd and a harsher regime under Griffin ensues: curfews, stricter laws etc.


Rico in Aspen -now mutated and more muscular from years of working in the Radioactive Ore mines that powers the city- breaks out after the prison warden tries to take his head. Rico declares his mission to take back what he sees is his...the title of Chief Judge. Rico escapes to the city with a gang of other mutant prisoners and makes it back to the city hidden in an Ore train.

Dredd continues to dispense justice on the streets of the Meg.

Back in the Meg, Rico begins threatening Griffin who fears him for what he knows about his past and the "Apollo" project.

Unbeknownst to Dredd, Rico is back and alive. Rico kills Vardis Hammond and Dredd is framed from the DNA at the scene.

Dredd is sent to Aspen on a shuttle with Fergie. Dredd realises he's been wronged and must return to the city. Stages a mutiny with Fergie and turns the ship around. With not enough fuel they crash land in the Cursed Earth. Making their way back to the Meg on foot they reach a village under an old freeway system where they discover the inhabitants are all dead from arrows. The reason for the killings are.....GILA MUNJA not the ANGEL GANG. Dredd and Fergie are attacked by the band of Gila Munja, dispatch a few of them but they are outnumbered. Fargo pops up and saves them before getting a final arrow through the chest.

A dying Fargo tells Dredd the truth about his clone-hood in the "Apollo" project, how it was Griffin's idea to clone Fargo to create the perfect Judge. It is also explained that Griffin secretly cloned Rico as a back-up to Dredd and that the clones had been tweaked to look different to hide this fact from Fargo. Rico performs better than Dredd but runs amok. Dredd arrrests him....you know the rest.

A doubting but soon reborn Dredd returns to the city wearing Fargo's duster coat, hat and badge. He and Fergie gain entrance to the city by Dredd posing as Fargo, returning Fergie as his prisoner from the shuttle crash.

Dredd and Fergie find the city in chaos under Griffin's inept yet still tyrannical regime. Rico and his gang of mutants seize the moment and begin their revolution by inciting a rebellion against Judges in the process of arresting the manager of an "Otto Sump Gungeteria" where a League of Fatties stuff their faces. Rico promises to liberate the citizens from Griffin and calls on all the cits and civillian defence corps to give him their weapons and stockpile them for a new militia.

Rico's army grows, taking sector by sector as the citizens overwhelm the Judges. Rico becomes more tyrannical than Griffin and takes over half the city while adorning himself with a new Nazi style Judge uniform. Dredd and Fergie decide to infiltrate Rico's militia by joining up. Meanwhile, within the embattled and cowering Council of Five, Griffin is forced to meet with Rico at an old location outside the Hall of Justice to discuss Rico's future as Chief Judge.

The meet is arranged.

Griffin is escorted by judges to the location (the old derelict cloning lab where the Apollo project took place) where Rico and his Militia arrive while a hit team consisting of Hershey and othe Judges scale the building taking positions to assassinate Rico. Dredd makes his way in. A shoot-out ensues after Rico tells Griffin what he wants and Griffin complies. Dredd, Hershey and Fergie escape during the bullet-fest into the uderground sewers as Rico, his army of perps and cits make their way to the Hall of Justice with Griffin at gunpoint.


In the sewers Dredd, Hershey and Fergie meet Fergie's old gang and a bunch of cadets who've hidden themselves from the chaos above. By burning torch-light they climb from the sewers into the "Museum of Justice" where they raid the old gun collection and Dredd adorns a display uniform; a cadet scratches "Dredd" upon the badge.


Dredd and his cadet/urchin army march with their torches on the Hall of Justice as embittered citizens swell their numbers with tire-irons and guns. They storm the gates battling Rico's army on the steps and make their way in as Rico attains the chains of office with the Council of Five at gun-point. Dredd and his army burst into the chamber, shoot the place up and by blowing a hole in the wall, Rico escapes and acquires a Lawmaster; Dredd follows likewise. They make it to the Statue of Judgement. They both climb it's inner structure, brawl, a hole is blown in the side and they fight on the top of the huge badge. They fall over on to the belt buckle below. Dredd blows Rico away and he falls into the torch of Liberty below where his body burns.


Fergie runs off with his gang and a dispensation. Hershey is made Chief Judge. Dredd returns to the streets.


No kiss but there is a smile.



It is a different script but it still ain't what a Dredd film should be and Dredd is still not Dredd, he's again portrayed as being a bit dumb; not nearly intimidating/authoritarian enough and they do try to humanise him but it is at least better than the complete mess that ended up as the film. Fergie's not wise-cracking as much, there's no Angel Gang, Joan Chen, ABC Warrior or clone army sub-plot either.



That wouldn't be a too bad a template for a sequel to Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 20 February, 2012, 10:18:08 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 20 February, 2012, 08:25:10 PM
I suppose Quality shit and Quantity shit even out.
I mean there is enough Floating around this board. Guilty as charged.





V

Tentatively  holds his hand up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 21 February, 2012, 02:58:40 AM
Quote from: fonky on 20 February, 2012, 06:39:35 AM
Fingers crossed then Beaky, that you won't be back in 7 months time saying how bad the next Dredd film is. Or do you already know something? Do you have inside information? Mmmm?

I'm only not commenting further on the 1995 movie, fonky dude, I've been nothing but enthusiastic - not to mention more than a little giddy with excitement - about the upcoming new film, and have stated as such on this forum many times, everything I've read and/or seen about Dredd leads me to believe it's going to be gangbusters...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 21 February, 2012, 03:27:23 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 February, 2012, 08:52:30 PM
Walon Green is not creditied on Wisher's original draft.

No, you're right there Joe, but I know for a fact he did work on the revised first draft, he pretty much streamlined Wisher's initial script, tightened it up, and changed some details around (as you can read by the differences between that early script and what ended up onscreen), his name was also credited alongside Wisher's on the revised second draft that DeSouza mangled wrote (the beginning of that project's fatal mistakes, IMHO).  I'll say this though, that Wisher script was clearly the script that Cannon signed up to do, and had they retained the core narrative of that draft (subsequent revisions notwithstanding), it would have been infinitely better than what ended up onscreen, and more than likely could've been better received upon release, it still may not have been the Judge Dredd film we wanted, but alas...

And just before I sign off on that film once and for all (and I mean it this time ::)), any chance you could mail me Wisher's script Joe, I would be eternally grateful, if you don't mind, that is...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: weehawk on 21 February, 2012, 04:26:29 AM
You know, once Dredd comes out and(hopefully)is recieved much better critically than the '95 film, it's going to be pretty interesting to see what Stallone has to say about it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 21 February, 2012, 06:59:55 AM
My guess is after 17 years he has more than likely forgotten about it. It's only us obsessives on the forum who are really bothered about the old version, which as films go was pretty unmemorable.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 February, 2012, 07:39:00 AM
Quote from: fonky on 21 February, 2012, 06:59:55 AM
My guess is after 17 years he has more than likely forgotten about it. It's only us obsessives on the forum who are really bothered about the old version, which as films go was pretty unmemorable.

Just you.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 21 February, 2012, 09:08:13 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 21 February, 2012, 07:39:00 AM
Quote from: fonky on 21 February, 2012, 06:59:55 AM
My guess is after 17 years he has more than likely forgotten about it. It's only us obsessives on the forum who are really bothered about the old version, which as films go was pretty unmemorable.

Just you.

Not at all. Some time ago, a couple of months before Christmas myself and the whole family were together wathcing our new T.V. . I suggested that we watched Stallones Judge Dredd on the DVD player as I thought it would look better on the new large LED tv we had just bought. Needless to say after ten minutes the rest of my family had left the room and found something else to do.

And I'd like to point out to you Goaty that the members of my family are intelligent enough to spot a turkey of a film when they see one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 21 February, 2012, 09:38:12 AM
Still a lot I wouldn't have liked in that script, also in the one we got:
* Dredd knowing Rico is his clone is central to the story.
* Altering Dredd & Griffin too much.
* Fergie... changing a character so much... Just make up a new character!!!

Some of the rest sounded better. Rico getting a mob together bears there clone army. Gila Ninja would have been interesting but losses the best bit we actually got, Angel Gang.

Use Rico by all means, but add he was. Dredd's better clone Gerhardt went bad. Vienna's father. Show Joe has a heart but have him blow his brother away anyway. Because that is the law. Also, play 'he ain't heavy, he's my brother quietly in there background...

Use fergie - he isn't a Trog so shouldn't upset the gritty realism. But he is big, has learning difficulties and is a hero. Though I have nothing against Toughs anyway.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 21 February, 2012, 04:26:43 PM
I really hope they use 2000ads birthday to reveal more on the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 21 February, 2012, 04:41:18 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 21 February, 2012, 04:26:43 PM
I really hope they use 2000ads birthday to reveal more on the film.
Wasn't that a few days ago ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: weehawk on 21 February, 2012, 04:48:41 PM
Quote from: fonky on 21 February, 2012, 06:59:55 AM
My guess is after 17 years he has more than likely forgotten about it. It's only us obsessives on the forum who are really bothered about the old version, which as films go was pretty unmemorable.

I guess what I mean is that if Stallone gets to watch Dredd, will he maybe think something like "you know, maybe that's the movie we should have done 17 years ago. And maybe if I had resisted the urge to feed my ego, I would have kept the helmet througout the movie like this guy Urban did."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 21 February, 2012, 05:23:45 PM
i know what you mean weehawk. But I doubt Stallone with his big ego, has many regrets over what he did to the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 21 February, 2012, 07:04:52 PM
Quote from: weehawk on 21 February, 2012, 04:48:41 PM
Quote from: fonky on 21 February, 2012, 06:59:55 AM
My guess is after 17 years he has more than likely forgotten about it. It's only us obsessives on the forum who are really bothered about the old version, which as films go was pretty unmemorable.

I guess what I mean is that if Stallone gets to watch Dredd, will he maybe think something like "you know, maybe that's the movie we should have done 17 years ago. And maybe if I had resisted the urge to feed my ego, I would have kept the helmet througout the movie like this guy Urban did."

The funny thing is that in some ways 2012 Dredd could be seen as the equivalent to John Rambo and Rocky Balboa, in terms of ditching some of the cheese which came before them. So in that respect you may be right.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 21 February, 2012, 07:49:52 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 21 February, 2012, 04:41:18 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 21 February, 2012, 04:26:43 PM
I really hope they use 2000ads birthday to reveal more on the film.
Wasn't that a few days ago ?

26th Feb is official birthday...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 21 February, 2012, 08:05:44 PM
And they are at that comic con in London on the same day,if they did have something up their sleeves it would be a great time to show us although I'm not expecting owt.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 21 February, 2012, 08:09:01 PM
I remember asking about this somewhere and MolchR or one of the Mods said definitely NO Trailer at the celebration meeting.

But you never know.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 21 February, 2012, 08:09:04 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 21 February, 2012, 08:05:44 PM
I'm not expecting owt.

I can't stress this strongly enough - if we were, you'd have heard about it by now!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 February, 2012, 08:17:06 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 21 February, 2012, 07:49:52 PM
26th Feb is official birthday...

Aww that's my dad's birthday!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 21 February, 2012, 08:17:20 PM
Not a shy and retiring droid that Molch-R
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 21 February, 2012, 08:54:51 PM
Long vigil till we sit in awe at the trailer.

Hope it's a good awe rather than shock and awe of this-Movie-is-straight to DVD rather than ass whooping Blockbuster.

Do you think they'll put a codpiece in the Movie Trailer just to frighten us? ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 February, 2012, 09:05:24 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 21 February, 2012, 08:54:51 PM
Do you think they'll put a codpiece in the Movie Trailer just to frighten us? ;)

well, I post that about 60 pages ago!

(http://i43.tinypic.com/29bk8dv.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 21 February, 2012, 09:27:47 PM
Lets hope the powers that be use the London con and birthday to their advantage. If not it is a missed opportunity for good Promo and may indicate the film company distancing itself from the source material and fans completely :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 21 February, 2012, 09:32:31 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 21 February, 2012, 09:27:47 PM
may indicate the film company distancing itself from the source material and fans completely :(

That's utter rubbish, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 21 February, 2012, 09:33:22 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 21 February, 2012, 09:05:24 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 21 February, 2012, 08:54:51 PM
Do you think they'll put a codpiece in the Movie Trailer just to frighten us? ;)
well, I post that about 60 pages ago!

We're endlessly circling the DREDD Film Motorway hoping for an eventual exit road. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 21 February, 2012, 10:04:50 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 21 February, 2012, 09:27:47 PM
Lets hope the powers that be use the London con and birthday to their advantage. If not it is a missed opportunity for good Promo and may indicate the film company distancing itself from the source material and fans completely :(

Or it may not.

It's a new con, MCM Expo at the same venue was pretty heaving, but I don't know what this one will be like seeing that it might not have the same demographic as that, such as the anime and manga fans, the movie mob etc.

If they were going to show anything new at a British convention, I'd expect it would be more likely to be at Kapow, even if it is still only going to be its second show.

But that is also just a guess, as is most of this thread.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 21 February, 2012, 10:30:41 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 21 February, 2012, 10:04:50 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 21 February, 2012, 09:27:47 PM
Lets hope the powers that be use the London con and birthday to their advantage. If not it is a missed opportunity for good Promo and may indicate the film company distancing itself from the source material and fans completely :(

Or it may not.

It's a new con, MCM Expo at the same venue was pretty heaving, but I don't know what this one will be like seeing that it might not have the same demographic as that, such as the anime and manga fans, the movie mob etc.

If they were going to show anything new at a British convention, I'd expect it would be more likely to be at Kapow, even if it is still only going to be its second show.

But that is also just a guess, as is most of this thread.


Yeah, probably true. For better or worse, there's a lot more media hype and buzz surrounding Kapow.

As for the impatience regarding the trailer's relaease. Isn't it more sensible for DNA/Lionsgate to get the trailer right rather than rush something out that isn't representative of the finished film?

A decent trailer can make or break a film's success-especially one with as much baggage as Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 22 February, 2012, 12:31:31 AM
I imagine we're only going to get a short teaser first. Which won't necessarily contain footage. Isn't that how it usually works? Which means the trailer won't be for another while yet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 22 February, 2012, 05:54:46 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 22 February, 2012, 12:31:31 AM
I imagine we're only going to get a short teaser first. Which won't necessarily contain footage. Isn't that how it usually works? Which means the trailer won't be for another while yet.

It will likely contain some footage, some teaser trailers show more actual footage than others, but it's the full theatrical trailer that will be going for the wow factor - in Dredd's case it will be action-heavy, and with some great shots of Mega-City One - but I wouldn't expect the Dredd theatrical trailer until mid-July (in time to capitalise on The Dark Knight Rises theatrical release) at earliest...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 22 February, 2012, 06:30:29 AM
Something more is bound to slip out between now and July. Mark my words.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 22 February, 2012, 01:33:00 PM
Just as a heads up; Simon Pegg just posted a 'Happy Birthday 2000 AD' message on Twitter, stating that there'll be a video message to follow featuring a 'special guest'.

Considering Peggy is currently filming Star Trek 2, could the 'special guest' be you-know-who?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 February, 2012, 01:36:56 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 22 February, 2012, 01:33:00 PM
Just as a heads up; Simon Pegg just posted a 'Happy Birthday 2000 AD' message on Twitter, stating that there'll be a video message to follow featuring a 'special guest'.

Considering Peggy is currently filming Star Trek 2, could the 'special guest' be you-know-who?

Saw that too... One can hope, ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 February, 2012, 02:41:36 PM
Even Jock tweet this;

could @simonpegg's special guest for the b'day message to @2000AD be DREDD himself Mr. Karl Urban? they're both filming Trek 2 right now...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 February, 2012, 10:05:38 PM
That would be awesome!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 February, 2012, 10:21:58 PM
The special guest...should be Stallone.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 22 February, 2012, 10:33:10 PM
"I knew you'd say that."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 February, 2012, 10:46:18 PM
The tweet droid just posted stand by, maybe this is it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 February, 2012, 10:58:25 PM
It's here all right:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmeQVFKe8c&feature=g-all-u&context=G2cc657dFAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 February, 2012, 10:59:56 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 22 February, 2012, 10:58:25 PM
It's here all right:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmeQVFKe8c&feature=g-all-u&context=G2cc657dFAAAAAAAAAAA

He the Man! But Sorry, what Simon and the Man says? (Deaf!)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 February, 2012, 11:00:52 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 22 February, 2012, 10:59:56 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 22 February, 2012, 10:58:25 PM
It's here all right:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmeQVFKe8c&feature=g-all-u&context=G2cc657dFAAAAAAAAAAA

He the Man! But Sorry, what Simon and the Man says? (Deaf!)

Ahhh I lip-reading Karl, he says "Happy Birthday You Creep!" Am I right?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 22 February, 2012, 11:03:37 PM
Thats pretty neat I have to say. Hes a good sport for doing that Karl and as for Pegg hes just class anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 February, 2012, 11:04:50 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 22 February, 2012, 11:00:52 PM
Ahhh I lip-reading Karl, he says "Happy Birthday You Creep!" Am I right?


Happy Brithday...creeps.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 February, 2012, 11:05:29 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 22 February, 2012, 11:04:50 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 22 February, 2012, 11:00:52 PM
Ahhh I lip-reading Karl, he says "Happy Birthday You Creep!" Am I right?


Happy Brithday...creeps.

Thanks Joe  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 February, 2012, 11:07:39 PM
That was cool! The word creep needs to be in the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 February, 2012, 11:08:37 PM

No question, that is the Dredd chin!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 22 February, 2012, 11:09:00 PM
Excellent!!!

By the way Lauren, the model for the Planet Replicas Anderson, is sad she only made the back cover of 1771. :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 February, 2012, 11:09:07 PM
Though was that an cockney accent?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 22 February, 2012, 11:12:27 PM
Heheeey!!! That was the proper Dredd voice too!   :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 February, 2012, 11:13:00 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 22 February, 2012, 11:09:00 PM
Excellent!!!

By the way Lauren, the model for the Planet Replicas Anderson, is sad she only made the back cover of 1771. :(

Erm, it was for an ad - why would an ad be on the front cover?

You could always start a petition...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 February, 2012, 11:13:56 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 22 February, 2012, 11:12:27 PM
Heheeey!!! That was the proper Dredd voice too!   :D

Nice one to all involved BTW...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 22 February, 2012, 11:15:30 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 22 February, 2012, 11:13:00 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 22 February, 2012, 11:09:00 PM
Excellent!!!

By the way Lauren, the model for the Planet Replicas Anderson, is sad she only made the back cover of 1771. :(

Erm, it was for an ad - why would an ad be on the front cover?

You could always start a petition...

LOL - she didn't want that pic on the FRONT...

I already told her that her being on the cover gets my vote ;)

Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 February, 2012, 11:09:07 PM
Though was that an cockney accent?

Probably a NZ one...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 22 February, 2012, 11:19:01 PM
Yeah! Waited until it was just chin on screen to say the phrase. Those broken teeth are great! And Simon Pegg looked appropriately beat up. Happy Birthday purveyors of 2000ad everywhere!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 February, 2012, 11:23:01 PM
Quality! Nice one to Pegg and the special guest!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 22 February, 2012, 11:35:43 PM
Cool beans!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 22 February, 2012, 11:50:42 PM
NICE CHIN.

So Karl's doing a Clint Eastwood Dirty Harry style Dredd voice.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 23 February, 2012, 12:24:22 AM
One majorly happy fan here!  That was spot on ... thanks to Mr.  Pegg  and Judge Urban for the birthday surprise . Happy birthday to the galaxies greatest :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 23 February, 2012, 12:33:59 AM
35 years old today! Wish I could say the same thing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 23 February, 2012, 02:37:15 AM
Pegg, you the man for setting that up! Urban, you the muthadrokkin' Judge Dredd-Accept no substitutes, crack skulls and take no prisoners...roll on September 2012
2000ad, to another 35 years and let the Golden Age continue...  :) Kudos to Tharg and all the hard working droids involved!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 23 February, 2012, 06:10:46 AM
Very Clint Eastwoodesque...nowt wrong wi that.

37 year old men like moi should not be this excited,I'm sure it's illegal.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Electromud on 23 February, 2012, 07:06:24 AM
Very cool! I just got goosebumps!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 23 February, 2012, 11:07:44 AM
Thank you very much Simon Pegg and Karl Urban for taking time out from a probably hectic S.T 2 filming schedule to wish 2000Ad a happy thirty fifth birthday!

Cheers, means a lot to the starved Forum dwellers. :thumbsup:

And blimey Karl Urban is Judge Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 23 February, 2012, 12:51:38 PM
But... but... you can see his face!   :o

Great stuff, 2 very thoughtful and thoroughly bloody nice blokes  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 23 February, 2012, 01:28:29 PM
Lovely Video of Karl and Simon for the birthday. :)
Thank you 2000AD and Happy Birthday.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: weehawk on 23 February, 2012, 04:52:33 PM
Urban's voice is excellent!!

Happy Birthday, 2000AD!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Grimmyx22 on 23 February, 2012, 06:12:06 PM
Heres to 35 years of thrill power! Huzzar! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: weehawk on 23 February, 2012, 06:22:17 PM
Quote from: weehawk on 23 February, 2012, 04:52:33 PM
Urban's voice is excellent!!

Happy Birthday, 2000AD!!

I forgot to add this little something I did on spare time:

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l296/shazam-kree/JudgeDreddsketch.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 23 February, 2012, 10:18:28 PM
Simon and Karl ,thanks for that you are class.

Clearly Karl is a method actor and has been gargling with gravel every morning to get the voice spot on.
Theres dedication for you ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 February, 2012, 06:30:38 PM
Jock on twitter says the Dredd footage is looking very, very good

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 24 February, 2012, 06:49:25 PM
Two very's ...

I'm very very very excited.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 24 February, 2012, 07:20:12 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 24 February, 2012, 06:30:38 PM
Jock on twitter says the Dredd footage is looking very, very good

:D :D :D

Just seen that!

Now it's on..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 24 February, 2012, 07:34:28 PM
Its worse than pulling teeth waiting to catch a snippet, image or two or the odd quote. Jeeeez come on with a teaser trailer id be happy for just a black screen with sound then the badge. Anything will do!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 February, 2012, 07:37:17 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 24 February, 2012, 07:34:28 PM
Its worse than pulling teeth waiting to catch a snippet, image or two or the odd quote. Jeeeez come on with a teaser trailer id be happy for just a black screen with sound then the badge. Anything will do!!!

You got Dredd's voice AND Jock's two Verys?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 24 February, 2012, 07:41:16 PM
Wonder if the footage he has seen is the teaser trailer?
Straws firmly clutched
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 February, 2012, 08:17:50 PM
Don't know, he was mention that he is at comic con tomorrow talk about Dredd film extra
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 24 February, 2012, 08:21:11 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 24 February, 2012, 07:37:17 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 24 February, 2012, 07:34:28 PM
Its worse than pulling teeth waiting to catch a snippet, image or two or the odd quote. Jeeeez come on with a teaser trailer id be happy for just a black screen with sound then the badge. Anything will do!!!

You got Dredd's voice AND Jock's two Verys?

Ermm that would be a no Goaty, so im guessing things are looking pretty damn good if Jock gave it TWO verys ? :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 February, 2012, 08:51:59 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 24 February, 2012, 08:21:11 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 24 February, 2012, 07:37:17 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 24 February, 2012, 07:34:28 PM
Its worse than pulling teeth waiting to catch a snippet, image or two or the odd quote. Jeeeez come on with a teaser trailer id be happy for just a black screen with sound then the badge. Anything will do!!!

You got Dredd's voice AND Jock's two Verys?

Ermm that would be a no Goaty, so im guessing things are looking pretty damn good if Jock gave it TWO verys ? :)

Trust the Jock! He knew the true shit!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 24 February, 2012, 10:29:44 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 24 February, 2012, 06:30:38 PM
Jock on twitter says the Dredd footage is looking very, very good

:D :D :D


That quote makes me very, VERY happy!

Nice one Jock!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 24 February, 2012, 10:42:31 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 24 February, 2012, 10:29:44 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 24 February, 2012, 06:30:38 PM
Jock on twitter says the Dredd footage is looking very, very good

:D :D :D




Thank grud! for that.  Could ar' Jock expand on this with a comparison perhaps? ...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 25 February, 2012, 04:48:38 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 24 February, 2012, 07:37:17 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 24 February, 2012, 07:34:28 PM
Its worse than pulling teeth waiting to catch a snippet, image or two or the odd quote. Jeeeez come on with a teaser trailer id be happy for just a black screen with sound then the badge. Anything will do!!!
You got Dredd's voice AND Jock's two Verys?

Yeah, between finally hearing the big JD's onscreen voice, not to mention having Jock give a ringing endorsement to the footage he's seen, who says it hasn't been a productive week... BTW, teaser trailer on its way, can say no more :-X !
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 25 February, 2012, 07:41:20 AM
Hurrah! Hurrah!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 25 February, 2012, 08:42:18 AM
 BTW, teaser trailer on its way, can say no more :-X !
[/quote]

:o

Erm,how long can't you say anything for,will it be days or weeks before ..... hang on ,have you seen it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 February, 2012, 11:42:46 AM
From Wagner's Facebook:

Barry Clarke
Will Judge Death feature in the new movie?
Like ·  · 15 hours ago ·

Matty Golledge No
about an hour ago · Like

John Wagner He might be in the next one.
about an hour ago · Like
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 25 February, 2012, 12:01:29 PM
Brave choice,from the tone they seem to be going for that would be like having Man-bat or Killer Croc in Nolans Batman.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DrRocka on 25 February, 2012, 12:20:17 PM
from what I remember from reading that script around a year or so ago, there is a hint of a [spoiler]death cult tattoo on some members of the bad guys. Setting up the sequel?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 25 February, 2012, 01:13:04 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 February, 2012, 11:42:46 AM
From Wagner's Facebook:

Barry Clarke
Will Judge Death feature in the new movie?
Like ·  · 15 hours ago ·

Matty Golledge No
about an hour ago · Like

John Wagner He might be in the next one.
about an hour ago · Like

That's priceless. We should go back to using pigeon post it would be quicker. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 25 February, 2012, 02:15:36 PM
Quote from: fonky on 25 February, 2012, 01:13:04 PM
That's priceless. We should go back to using pigeon post it would be quicker. :lol:

Yeah, 15 hours for Johnny Spode to get a response from one of the greatest living comics creators.  It's a disgrace. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 25 February, 2012, 02:34:36 PM
It's looking like I'll be in Thailand when this film comes out.  Does anyone know if they have English-language cinemas there?  If not I'll be flying somewhere else to watch it, for definite
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 25 February, 2012, 02:53:40 PM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 25 February, 2012, 02:34:36 PM
It's looking like I'll be in Thailand when this film comes out.  Does anyone know if they have English-language cinemas there?  If not I'll be flying somewhere else to watch it, for definite
I'd imagine it depends where about in Thailand. Bangkok, no problem. Somewhere up near the Burmese border, unlikely.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 25 February, 2012, 02:54:01 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 February, 2012, 11:42:46 AM
From Wagner's Facebook:

Barry Clarke
Will Judge Death feature in the new movie?
Like ·  · 15 hours ago ·

Matty Golledge No
about an hour ago · Like

John Wagner He might be in the next one.
about an hour ago · Like

Might be doesent mean it will be. A hint possibly of Judge Death in the film perhaps leading to a full on third film ?

What i like more than anything about this post is the "next one" statement thats optimisim that things are going really well, coupled with Jocks "very, very good" it is really promising.

Of course im reading between the lines here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 25 February, 2012, 07:23:01 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 25 February, 2012, 02:53:40 PM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 25 February, 2012, 02:34:36 PM
It's looking like I'll be in Thailand when this film comes out.  Does anyone know if they have English-language cinemas there?  If not I'll be flying somewhere else to watch it, for definite
I'd imagine it depends where about in Thailand. Bangkok, no problem. Somewhere up near the Burmese border, unlikely.

Cheers, cosh!  Dredd in Bangkok it is!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Woolly on 26 February, 2012, 12:19:45 AM
When The Mighty Jock says (tweets?) something, we should believe him!

Don't know what i'm looking forward too the most - the film, or Jock's comic tie-in*...





*am i right in saying this has already been done?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 26 February, 2012, 04:56:11 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 25 February, 2012, 08:42:18 AM
:o
Erm,how long can't you say anything for,will it be days or weeks before ..... hang on ,have you seen it?

I haven't seen it, I don't know what's in it, but it is on the way... if you ever trust anything I've ever, or will ever say on this forum, trust me on this, 'nuff said (by necessity not by intent) :-X !

Quote from: Woolly on 26 February, 2012, 12:19:45 AM
When The Mighty Jock says (tweets?) something, we should believe him!
Don't know what i'm looking forward too the most - the film, or Jock's comic tie-in*...
*am i right in saying this has already been done?

The mighty Jock said back around the time the first photo of the new Judge outfit was released in late 2010 that the comic adaptation has already been done...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 26 February, 2012, 05:28:33 AM
His exact words were...

Quote from: jock on 10 September, 2010, 03:58:30 PM
my first job for DNA was adapting the script in comic form... somewhere between story boards and a strip. very rough style tho - not really publishable. but a 102 page comic of DREDD already exists!

(emphasis mine)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 26 February, 2012, 06:39:20 AM
That's the one...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 26 February, 2012, 07:42:58 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 26 February, 2012, 04:56:11 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 25 February, 2012, 08:42:18 AM
:o
Erm,how long can't you say anything for,will it be days or weeks before ..... hang on ,have you seen it?

I haven't seen it, I don't know what's in it, but it is on the way... if you ever trust anything I've ever, or will ever say on this forum, trust me on this
Will do/am  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: golledge100 on 26 February, 2012, 10:21:20 AM
QuoteI haven't seen it, I don't know what's in it, but it is on the way... if you ever trust anything I've ever, or will ever say on this forum, trust me on this, 'nuff said (by necessity not by intent)  !     

I can back beacky smoochies up on this. A trailer is definately on its way within the next 6 months. If  never trusted anything I've said on this forum before, trust me on this one :-X
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 26 February, 2012, 10:57:47 AM
Quote from: golledge100 on 26 February, 2012, 10:21:20 AM
QuoteI haven't seen it, I don't know what's in it, but it is on the way... if you ever trust anything I've ever, or will ever say on this forum, trust me on this, 'nuff said (by necessity not by intent)  !     

I can back beacky smoochies up on this. A trailer is definately on its way within the next 6 months. If  never trusted anything I've said on this forum before, trust me on this one :-X

Yes, I think we can definitely say that a trailer will be forthcoming before the release of the actual movie...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 26 February, 2012, 11:23:44 AM
After May Day holiday maybe? Not to long nor to short an Ad campaign.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: clavell on 26 February, 2012, 11:34:41 AM
Didn't somebody say there might be a trailer with the Dark Knight Rises ?

- C
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 February, 2012, 11:50:34 AM
Quote from: clavell on 26 February, 2012, 11:34:41 AM
Didn't somebody say there might be a trailer with the Dark Knight Rises ?

- C

No
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 26 February, 2012, 01:14:52 PM
I'd imagine that it'll be leaked on the internet before it's ever trailered before an actual movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 26 February, 2012, 01:22:43 PM
I'm waiting for the  bootleg camera phone one,thought we might have got it from a comic con or something by now
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 26 February, 2012, 01:25:02 PM
Yeah, it'll come out in dribs and drabs on the internet first; a bit like Jack the Ripper sending bits of his victims bodies to the coppers tp tease them with ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 26 February, 2012, 01:47:29 PM
'Dear Boss

I'm sending you a clip of Dredd blowing some punk away. T'other clip I ate. Yum yum.

Yours , SCOJO The Ripper'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 26 February, 2012, 01:52:44 PM
Quote from: fonky on 26 February, 2012, 01:25:02 PM
Yeah, it'll come out in dribs and drabs on the internet first; a bit like Jack the Ripper sending bits of his victims bodies to the coppers tp tease them with ;)

:-) That's a great analogy!  .... you've both got a point the trailer would have got lots of exposure at a big con but will probably be leaked on a European website
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 26 February, 2012, 01:55:37 PM
....as shredded up gif files :-/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 26 February, 2012, 02:01:46 PM
When is The Hunger Games coming out? That's Lionsgate's biggest release of the year - trailer could be attached to that, though I'm not sure they'll beach crossover between their audiences...

I expected the trailer to come out with The Expendables, but I think that's coming out only a month before Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 26 February, 2012, 02:33:24 PM
Hunger Games is out on  Friday 23rd March.
Prime candidate I think.

http://www.launchingfilms.com/release-schedule
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 26 February, 2012, 02:33:30 PM
March 23 in the US not sure about UK, Will try and find out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 26 February, 2012, 02:38:46 PM
Same for the UK.Lionsgate also has 2 films per month in April,May and June then  skip to August,bet we get the full trailer then.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 26 February, 2012, 02:42:45 PM
Just noticed that Lionsgate is not handling distribution in the UK,Entertainment Films is.There next film,Gone is out 30th March.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 February, 2012, 02:54:11 PM
So not too long then! That sounds like the most likely time they would release the trailer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 26 February, 2012, 02:56:04 PM
Needs and edit function.... ^ their ^
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 26 February, 2012, 03:05:05 PM
Judge Dredd fans should get a meddle for being the most patient group on the internet. I just feel like tearing this place up!

Two years we have to wait since the film was made, two years.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 26 February, 2012, 04:20:55 PM
Never a truer word said.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 26 February, 2012, 06:11:56 PM
I hope you like it then Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahnderson's Shame.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 26 February, 2012, 08:48:58 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 26 February, 2012, 03:05:05 PM
Judge Dredd fans should get a meddle

Oooh, I say.  SAUCY!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 26 February, 2012, 09:00:02 PM
Patient? You've got to be kidding.
Just go through these very film threads. You would hardly call alot of us on the board patient.
I for one am quite happy to sit back and wait for the film. The actors had done their acting and post production is well under way. Just put your feet up and let the little Piccy's and gifs filter through T'internet to whet your appetites.





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 February, 2012, 09:04:45 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 26 February, 2012, 09:00:02 PM
Patient? You've got to be kidding.
Just go through these very film threads. You would hardly call alot of us on the board patient.
I for one am quite happy to sit back and wait for the film. The actors had done their acting and post production is well under way. Just put your feet up and let the little Piccy's and gifs filter through T'internet to whet your appetites.


This I agree. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: golledge100 on 26 February, 2012, 10:04:05 PM
Quote. Yes, I think we can definitely say that a trailer will be forthcoming before the release of the actual movie...     

You clearly have the same insider knowledge that Beaky Smoochies has Mr Clements or else how would you know this?
Are you in fact John Wagner?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 26 February, 2012, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: golledge100 on 26 February, 2012, 10:04:05 PM
Quote. Yes, I think we can definitely say that a trailer will be forthcoming before the release of the actual movie...     

You clearly have the same insider knowledge that Beaky Smoochies has Mr Clements or else how would you know this?
Are you in fact John Wagner?

I can neither confirm or deny that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 26 February, 2012, 10:18:45 PM
Quote from: A.Cow link=topic=34200.msg :lol:655995#msg655995 date=1330289338
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 26 February, 2012, 03:05:05 PM
Judge Dredd fans should get a meddle

Oooh, I say.  SAUCY!

We should also get an edit function.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 February, 2012, 10:33:32 PM
Quote from: golledge100 on 26 February, 2012, 10:04:05 PM
Quote. Yes, I think we can definitely say that a trailer will be forthcoming before the release of the actual movie...     

You clearly have the same insider knowledge that Beaky Smoochies has Mr Clements or else how would you know this?
Are you in fact John Wagner?

Hello Scojo?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 26 February, 2012, 11:15:04 PM
I'm John Wagner and so's my wife!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 26 February, 2012, 11:19:27 PM
I'm not John Wagner..

I'm Spartacus
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 26 February, 2012, 11:32:05 PM
mo im spartacus and so is john wagners wife :/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 27 February, 2012, 01:49:39 AM
Now I'm confused.

I know that the plural of John Wagner is Johns Wagner, but if you have more than one Spartacus is that Spartacii or Spartaca?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 27 February, 2012, 02:03:47 AM
More than two is a "Spartaqueue", (not to be confused with a "Spartacue", which is an ancient Greek method of undercooking food in an outdoor environment).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 27 February, 2012, 01:49:13 PM
And while the ancient Greeks were enjoying their Sparteque and wine they would remove their garments and hope the sun would give their bodies a nice, brown Spartan.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 27 February, 2012, 07:04:16 PM
Is this the dedicated 'off topic' thread now?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 27 February, 2012, 07:13:26 PM
No, it's the "dedicated Dredd fans waiting (un) patiently for another measly snippet from the film" thread.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 27 February, 2012, 07:20:19 PM
Quote from: fonky on 27 February, 2012, 07:13:26 PM
No, it's the "dedicated Dredd fans waiting (in) patiently for another measly snippet from the film" thread.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 27 February, 2012, 07:22:40 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 27 February, 2012, 07:20:19 PM
Quote from: fonky on 27 February, 2012, 07:13:26 PM
No, it's the "dedicated Dredd fans waiting (im) patiently for another measly snippet from the film" thread.

Fixed.

Fixed for spelling  :lol:

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 27 February, 2012, 07:41:05 PM
The first time in a long time someone actually responds to one of my posts and it is to point out a spelling mistake.

Fucking typical.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 27 February, 2012, 08:14:42 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 27 February, 2012, 07:41:05 PM
The first time in a long time someone actually responds to one of my posts

Sigh. I know the feeling , pal!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 27 February, 2012, 08:34:13 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 27 February, 2012, 07:41:05 PM
The first time in a long time someone actually responds to one of my posts and it is to point out a spelling mistake.

Fucking typical.

I apologise.... :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 February, 2012, 08:48:12 PM
so yeah...how 'bout that Dredd film?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 February, 2012, 08:48:42 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 February, 2012, 08:48:12 PM
so yeah...how 'bout that Dredd film?

:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: golledge100 on 27 February, 2012, 08:56:59 PM
Quote
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The first time in a long time someone actually responds to one of my posts and it is to point out a spelling mistake.

Fucking typical.
 


Ahem!

http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,35415.msg654476.html#msg654476

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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 27 February, 2012, 09:07:11 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 February, 2012, 08:48:12 PM
so yeah...how 'bout that Dredd film?

That's the film no one can decide whether it's going to be good or not, or what certificate it's going to get?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 27 February, 2012, 09:21:16 PM
Back on subject then, what do you expect to see on the Official Dredd Website ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 February, 2012, 09:23:03 PM
Quote from: fonky on 27 February, 2012, 09:07:11 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 February, 2012, 08:48:12 PM
so yeah...how 'bout that Dredd film?

That's the film no one can decide whether it's going to be good or not, or what certificate it's going to get?


at least you're talking about it.


Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 27 February, 2012, 09:21:16 PM
Back on subject then, what do you expect to see on the Official Dredd Website ?


Judges. Dates. Wallpaper.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 27 February, 2012, 09:24:47 PM
well what i was thinking if they have a proper domain such as dredd.com or similar will have it a history of the main man ? could it be expanded in some way ? will it have its own forums and if so who should moderate that
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 February, 2012, 09:26:40 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 27 February, 2012, 09:24:47 PM
will it have its own forums and if so who should moderate that


Roger Godpleton.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 27 February, 2012, 09:54:55 PM
I assume the Film Company have a plan and our working on it. Nowt we can do to hurry it along.

So breathe in, hold it, count to 10, breathe out and relax...

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 28 February, 2012, 01:09:33 AM
Its a shame really that a exterior source is going to create it and not have any input from anyone on these boards and or fans. Which I guess is the nature of the beast. I expect them to turn out a generic website solely based on the film only.

So much potential, there was.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 February, 2012, 01:13:18 AM
A forum all ready exists, this one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 28 February, 2012, 11:50:54 AM
Hmm. This film seems uncomfortably close in tone and plot to DREDD.

Hope it doesn't steal any of Joe's thunder.

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/1262585/new_poster_for_the_raid_redemption.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 28 February, 2012, 03:02:02 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 28 February, 2012, 01:09:33 AM
Its a shame really that a exterior source is going to create it and not have any input from anyone on these boards and or fans. Which I guess is the nature of the beast. I expect them to turn out a generic website solely based on the film only.

So much potential, there was.

Serious question: why in the world would you think that fans should have any input into the marketing of a movie? I think they has people to do that already.
I don't think Marvel are opening up the marketing strategy for The Avengers to a handful of people who happen to opine on a website, so why should the makers of the Dredd movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 February, 2012, 03:05:49 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 28 February, 2012, 03:02:02 PM
Serious question: why in the world would you think that fans should have any input into the marketing of a movie? I think they has people to do that already.
I don't think Marvel are opening up the marketing strategy for The Avengers to a handful of people who happen to opine on a website, so why should the makers of the Dredd movie.

Excellent point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 February, 2012, 04:26:23 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 28 February, 2012, 11:50:54 AM
Hmm. This film seems uncomfortably close in tone and plot to DREDD.

Hope it doesn't steal any of Joe's thunder.

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/1262585/new_poster_for_the_raid_redemption.html

Yeah I saw the trailer the other day, couldn't believe it, the plot is almost exactly the same!

Action wise I think that is going to be superior too, look at all the shit going on in the trailer! But on the other hand Dredd is a badass.

Both these films look amazing, but I really hope Dredd doesn't get accused of being a hollywood copy cat of this! (I know they're both independent, but a lot of people won't)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 February, 2012, 04:29:15 PM
You lot want to get with the programme, we talked about The Raid ages ago  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 28 February, 2012, 04:59:55 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 28 February, 2012, 03:02:02 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 28 February, 2012, 01:09:33 AM
Its a shame really that a exterior source is going to create it and not have any input from anyone on these boards and or fans. Which I guess is the nature of the beast. I expect them to turn out a generic website solely based on the film only.

So much potential, there was.

Serious question: why in the world would you think that fans should have any input into the marketing of a movie? I think they has people to do that already.
I don't think Marvel are opening up the marketing strategy for The Avengers to a handful of people who happen to opine on a website, so why should the makers of the Dredd movie.

Fair enough point. What ideally I would like is for a website which would last longer than the movie release and be of some depth rather than just the generic representation of whats in the movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 28 February, 2012, 06:14:36 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 28 February, 2012, 03:02:02 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 28 February, 2012, 01:09:33 AM
Its a shame really that a exterior source is going to create it and not have any input from anyone on these boards and or fans. Which I guess is the nature of the beast. I expect them to turn out a generic website solely based on the film only.

So much potential, there was.

Serious question: why in the world would you think that fans should have any input into the marketing of a movie? I think they has people to do that already.
I don't think Marvel are opening up the marketing strategy for The Avengers to a handful of people who happen to opine on a website, so why should the makers of the Dredd movie.

Nah, they've just let their toddlers have a go instead :)

(http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/a/avengers-assemble-the-avengers-gets-new-title-and-official-poster-81282-470-75.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 28 February, 2012, 06:38:44 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 28 February, 2012, 04:59:55 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 28 February, 2012, 03:02:02 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 28 February, 2012, 01:09:33 AM
Its a shame really that a exterior source is going to create it and not have any input from anyone on these boards and or fans. Which I guess is the nature of the beast. I expect them to turn out a generic website solely based on the film only.

So much potential, there was.

Why? That's not the function of a movie site, and I don't know of any that fulfill this remit. What you are describing sounds suspiciously like the site you're posting on at the moment however.

Serious question: why in the world would you think that fans should have any input into the marketing of a movie? I think they has people to do that already.
I don't think Marvel are opening up the marketing strategy for The Avengers to a handful of people who happen to opine on a website, so why should the makers of the Dredd movie.

Fair enough point. What ideally I would like is for a website which would last longer than the movie release and be of some depth rather than just the generic representation of whats in the movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 28 February, 2012, 06:49:36 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 28 February, 2012, 06:14:36 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 28 February, 2012, 03:02:02 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 28 February, 2012, 01:09:33 AM
Its a shame really that a exterior source is going to create it and not have any input from anyone on these boards and or fans. Which I guess is the nature of the beast. I expect them to turn out a generic website solely based on the film only.

So much potential, there was.

Bad photoshop really poor. Theres more talent on here that would do a better job re my point earlier.

Serious question: why in the world would you think that fans should have any input into the marketing of a movie? I think they has people to do that already.
I don't think Marvel are opening up the marketing strategy for The Avengers to a handful of people who happen to opine on a website, so why should the makers of the Dredd movie.

Nah, they've just let their toddlers have a go instead :)

(http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/a/avengers-assemble-the-avengers-gets-new-title-and-official-poster-81282-470-75.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 28 February, 2012, 06:51:16 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 28 February, 2012, 06:49:36 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 28 February, 2012, 06:14:36 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 28 February, 2012, 03:02:02 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 28 February, 2012, 01:09:33 AM
Its a shame really that a exterior source is going to create it and not have any input from anyone on these boards and or fans. Which I guess is the nature of the beast. I expect them to turn out a generic website solely based on the film only.

So much potential, there was.

Serious question: why in the world would you think that fans should have any input into the marketing of a movie? I think they has people to do that already.
I don't think Marvel are opening up the marketing strategy for The Avengers to a handful of people who happen to opine on a website, so why should the makers of the Dredd movie.

Nah, they've just let their toddlers have a go instead :)

(http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/a/avengers-assemble-the-avengers-gets-new-title-and-official-poster-81282-470-75.jpg)


Bad photoshop really poor. Theres more talent on here that would do a better job re part of my point earlier. You can pay a monkey to make something but if theres no empathy with the subject matter your going to end with a bucket of shite.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 February, 2012, 08:11:24 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 28 February, 2012, 11:50:54 AM
Hmm. This film seems uncomfortably close in tone and plot to DREDD.
Hope it doesn't steal any of Joe's thunder.
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/1262585/new_poster_for_the_raid_redemption.html

Similar plot but very different characters. No ladies in this Action flick though it does look very good a hyper kinetic kill all bad guys blast athon.

RAID looks like it's for 18+'s only and if I remember they were allegedly thinking about cutting some parts of DREDD for a 15 title.  Whether they do or not we'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 28 February, 2012, 08:23:17 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 February, 2012, 08:11:24 PM

RAID looks like it's for 18+'s only and if I remember they were allegedly thinking about cutting some parts of DREDD for a 15 title.  Whether they do or not we'll have to wait and see.

there we go

an unsubstantiated rumour started here has now  (nearly) become 'Fact'

on the offical film website i did a load of Whois lookups on 'Dredd' and it's variants..lots of domains bought but they had nothing to indicate who bought them(i would imagine rebellion owns most of them)



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 February, 2012, 08:40:49 PM
dr3dd.com is available.

dr3ddxxx.com is available also just in case Rebellion are interested in the 'Adult' version of their multi million pound Movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 28 February, 2012, 08:57:53 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 February, 2012, 08:40:49 PM
dr3ddxxx.com is available also just in case Rebellion are interested in the 'Adult' version of their multi million pound Movie.




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 February, 2012, 08:27:48 AM
Feature on Total Film, about 50 Greatest Villains Of 2012

In list number 30, it is Madeline Madrigal (Ma-Ma) by Lena Headey.

http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-greatest-villains-of-2012/madeline-madrigal (http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-greatest-villains-of-2012/madeline-madrigal)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 29 February, 2012, 08:42:07 AM
Is it wrong to be a little in love with Lena Headey?  She'd snap me into line in no time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 February, 2012, 08:51:27 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 29 February, 2012, 08:42:07 AM
Is it wrong to be a little in love with Lena Headey?  She'd snap me into line in no time.

No.... ;)

(http://www.fhm.com/imgs/307/409/0/original/Main200902241453257160242_lena_headey.jpgx)

(http://www.superrobotmayhem.com/images/comic-book-movies/judge-dredd-movie/lena-headley-cast-ma-man/t_lena-headey-joins-dredd-movie-as-ma-ma_688.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 29 February, 2012, 10:47:15 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 29 February, 2012, 08:42:07 AM
Is it wrong to be a little in love with Lena Headey?  She'd snap me into line in no time.

definitely not. Hur hur huuuuuuuur a hyuk hyuk...

(http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae177/spaceghost71/lena_headey_1.jpg)

She puuurdy...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 29 February, 2012, 12:17:13 PM
 :D dirty boy...naughty boy!  ::) could you post any more?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 29 February, 2012, 01:31:22 PM
To the underware [sic] thread!  http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,5066.msg656758.html#msg656758 (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,5066.msg656758.html#msg656758)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 29 February, 2012, 01:45:24 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 29 February, 2012, 12:17:13 PM
:D dirty boy...naughty boy!  ::) could you post any more?!

Oh, all right then. It looks like she's done her back in on this one, poor lass.

(http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae177/spaceghost71/lena_headey_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 29 February, 2012, 04:23:56 PM
Stop with the photos now Lee ... l'm getting a bit hot under the collar!  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 29 February, 2012, 06:32:25 PM
But is it wrong to want to undo the stitches in her face and... actually, never mind.  It is.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 29 February, 2012, 06:44:09 PM
Shes such a hotty hot hot thang! Thanks for sharing Lee :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 01 March, 2012, 12:06:53 AM
I dunno.. She scared us.. Properly scared us.  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 01 March, 2012, 12:49:15 AM
Always liked this pic, couldn't possibly imagine why...

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_locvjsnDga1qzoaqio1_r1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 01 March, 2012, 01:12:58 AM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 29 February, 2012, 06:32:25 PM
But is it wrong to want to undo the stitches in her face and... actually, never mind.  It is.


Someone's been watching Cronenberg's Crash? :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 01 March, 2012, 01:20:17 PM
First image in the Movie? I reckon either the shadow of a Judge/Judges on a wall beside which lay the bullet ridden bodies of perps and juvies.

Please include Barney the Dinosaur/a codpiece/ Politicians of all devices in the massacre please DNA.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 01 March, 2012, 01:22:49 PM
Haven't read the script, but am aware there's a chase near the start - so possibly a zoom in from a wide angle of the city to the fleeing van and the perps inside? 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 01 March, 2012, 01:25:31 PM
That'll do nicely!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 01 March, 2012, 01:38:43 PM
I'm hoping for something a bit more imagination than the first action film cliché that popped in to my head!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 March, 2012, 01:42:37 PM

Thank you all for not spoilers any from script, as not read it, and wont!

But sorry as there is 1995 Judge Dredd moment, thought the opening scene to it was OK as it start with the info on screen then the Cursed Earth in background with Judge guard from left side, as winds blew into him, then a big hover ship appears next to his face! Then film gone shite!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 01 March, 2012, 01:54:05 PM
I never know if people are asking because they acvtually want to know, or are just speculating. Anyway, here's what'll happen, in spoilers, for those that want to read it. Obviously, don't read it if you don't want to spoil the surprise. I kind of wish I hadn't read the script but when I heard it was online all those months ago, I couldn't help myself.

[spoiler]The opening shot is of the Cursed Earth, zooming gradually in on MC1 as a scrawl/voice over gives us a synopsis of what events have taken place in the forming of this new world.

We see the huge towering Blocks in the distance but we are unaware of their huge scale. They are surrounded by smaller structures which appear to be low rise buildings in comparison to these huge Mega Blocks.

As we get closer, we begin to realise that the small, low rise blocks are in fact modern day skyscrapers and the huge buildings which dwarf them are the Mega Blocks.

We zoom in on the Grand Hall of Justice and then to a shot of Dredd (without his helmet!!!!), in heavy shadow, strapping on his armour, boots, gauntlets and putting on his helmet (at which point we get the 'DREDD' logo).

We then see Dredd priming his Lawgiver and see it recognising him as the authorised user. He then mounts his Lawmaster and sets of into the city where the chase scene will take place...[/spoiler]

I think that sounds really cool. If you do read it, let me know what you think in spoilers.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 01 March, 2012, 02:10:20 PM
Sounds terrific for an opening sequence. Just reading that I can visualise it so clearly and feel the atmosphere. Yeah, I think they've nailed it on the head there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 01 March, 2012, 02:17:55 PM
Concienciously avoided spoilers as far as possible... so thanks Lee.

You might find there is enough different from the script in the finished film to give surprises.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 01 March, 2012, 07:01:55 PM
Yawwwwn.
Still no poster, trailer, teaser, web site ..the Dredd PR machine rumbles on.

Wake me up when anything remotely interesting happens in connection to this movie.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 01 March, 2012, 07:05:48 PM
Wake me up when people stop whinging about there being no news.

The fact is, a couple of weeks ago we got new stills, new interviews and leaked footage all within a few days....

and within a couple of hours, the usual brigade were all clamouring for more info and whinging again about the lack of news!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 March, 2012, 07:14:19 PM
Quote from: radiator on 01 March, 2012, 07:05:48 PM
Wake me up when people stop whinging about there being no news.

The fact is, a couple of weeks ago we got new stills, new interviews and leaked footage all within a few days....

and within a couple of hours, the usual brigade were all clamouring for more info and whinging again about the lack of news!

Ditto
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 01 March, 2012, 07:15:14 PM
That was hardly anything though Radiator. Two or three new pics and a second of film clip, and 30 seconds of radio interveiw with Thirlby. Pppff.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 01 March, 2012, 07:32:39 PM
It was more like 8/9 new stills (in two batches a few days apart), two interviews with Thirlby, 10 seconds of footage (van chase, bloke getting shot, judge gang, med center etc) and the Simon Pegg vid where Urban gives a sneak preview of the Dredd voice - all within a few weeks.

Face it - even if they released the trailer tomorrow morning, there'd be people whinging again the following day. Some people just won't be happy until the film is out!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 01 March, 2012, 07:46:18 PM
Some people just like a good whinge either way.

I think its a positive thing that people are so eager for news,certainly be more worrying if nobody gave a ...SWEARING WARNING...   shit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 01 March, 2012, 07:49:08 PM
Still over 6 months to go...  Loads of films don't have tralers out yet that will be out same time.

Yeah OK Prometheus does, but that is out in June.  Plus it is from a big company that always advertises summer blockbusters far too much.  After all I knew I'd go as soon as it was released - and I bet most people that like Aliens, Predator and/or AvP will have already known too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 01 March, 2012, 08:10:04 PM
Quote from: radiator on 01 March, 2012, 07:32:39 PM
It was more like 8/9 new stills (in two batches a few days apart), two interviews with Thirlby, 10 seconds of footage (van chase, bloke getting shot, judge gang, med center etc) and the Simon Pegg vid where Urban gives a sneak preview of the Dredd voice - all within a few weeks.

Face it - even if they released the trailer tomorrow morning, there'd be people whinging again the following day. Some people just won't be happy until the film is out!

Radiator oh come on -when you're quoting LEAKED footage ,a Simon Pegg tribute (brilliant and appreciated as it was) and a couple of photos as evidence of a great PR campaign I can't take you seriously.Movies are about hype to get bums on seats, I'm totally underwhelmed by their OFFICIAL efforts so far, and lets face it with ony 6 months left they really are going to have to pull their finger out soon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 01 March, 2012, 08:18:05 PM
SOOOO. Films of Dredds budget, can someone put up figures of when the PR really kicked in so we can compare and then all the moaners can either have their whinges backed up or just shut the fuck up and start moaning at the time the PR should finally kick off.
@ Sherman. If you think they should start the PR ball rolling why don't you contact the relevant parties offering your services and expertise. I am sure the would welcome your help as they clearly don't know what they are doing.



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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 01 March, 2012, 08:20:31 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 March, 2012, 08:10:04 PM
Movies are about hype to get bums on seats, I'm totally underwhelmed by their OFFICIAL efforts so far, and lets face it with ony 6 months left they really are going to have to pull their finger out soon.

...and here was me thinking movies were about telling a story.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 01 March, 2012, 08:28:51 PM
Getting fed up of pointing this out now, but Dredd isn't Prometheus, it isn't The Avengers. It's not an 'event' film. Those films probably have marketing budgets that could pay for the entire production of Dredd many times over.

We'll most likely get a trailer/website/mini marketing blitz a month or two before the film comes out, same as any other film release.

QuoteFilms of Dredds budget, can someone put up figures of when the PR really kicked in

I'll bring up the District 9 comparison again - a similar production in many ways (similar budget independent movies, both shot in SA, some of the same cast and crew...). I don't think I'd even heard of that film at all up until a few weeks before it came out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 01 March, 2012, 08:31:13 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 01 March, 2012, 07:49:08 PM
Still over 6 months to go...  Loads of films don't have tralers out yet that will be out same time.

Yeah OK Prometheus does, but that is out in June.  Plus it is from a big company that always advertises summer blockbusters far too much.  After all I knew I'd go as soon as it was released - and I bet most people that like Aliens, Predator and/or AvP will have already known too.

What I said...

Quote from: M.I.K. on 01 March, 2012, 08:20:31 PM


...and here was me thinking movies were about telling a story.

What he said...

Quote from: radiator on 01 March, 2012, 08:28:51 PM
Getting fed up of pointing this out now, but Dredd isn't Prometheus, it isn't The Avengers. It's not an 'event' film. Those films probably have marketing budgets that could pay for the entire production of Dredd many times over.

We'll most likely get a trailer/website/mini marketing blitz a month or two before the film comes out, same as any other film release.

QuoteFilms of Dredds budget, can someone put up figures of when the PR really kicked in

I'll bring up the District 9 comparison again - a similar production in many ways (similar budget independent movies, both shot in SA, some of the same cast and crew...). I don't think I'd even heard of that film at all up until a few weeks before it came out.

And also what he said...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 01 March, 2012, 09:04:30 PM
Please can we not have this same fucking discussion YET AGAIN.

(Notice there was no question mark at the end of that sentence. Though it was phrased as if a question, it was not.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 01 March, 2012, 09:11:25 PM
So if Dredds 40 and Anderssssssons 20 something who would be Chief Judge ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 01 March, 2012, 09:14:03 PM
#Vzzbux -I'm busy.As for, 'they know what they are doing' ,they haven't got a good track record, the distributors, when it comes to promotion
#MIK -If you don't even know about the story you wont go and see it (silly  ;))
#Radiator-Stop labouring on cost.One man and his computer trained dog can set up and run a website for next to nowt, a poster isn't a big expense, nor is viral stuff, lots of cheap stuff they could be doing (how about releasing an artistic rendering of the city used for the film to generate buzz).As for District 9 ,they ran a very unique viral marketing campaign on and off the web which suited that particular film, you can't expect that for this film (especially from this distributor)
#Bat King - The above ( :D)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 March, 2012, 09:14:24 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 01 March, 2012, 09:11:25 PM
So if Dredds 40 and Anderssssssons 20 something who would be Chief Judge ?

What?

It's Rakie Ayola; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0043931/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0043931/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 01 March, 2012, 09:18:20 PM
You'd have to say that Clarence Goodman has never looked finer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 01 March, 2012, 09:27:48 PM
I thought he was sexier bleeding out on the slab. 
Very sorry, I'm on the main tourist street of Bangkok, it does things to you
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 01 March, 2012, 09:28:19 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 March, 2012, 09:14:03 PM
#Vzzbux -I'm busy.As for, 'they know what they are doing' ,they haven't got a good track record, the distributors, when it comes to promotion
#MIK -If you don't even know about the story you wont go and see it (silly  ;))
#Radiator-Stop labouring on cost.One man and his computer trained dog can set up and run a website for next to nowt, a poster isn't a big expense, nor is viral stuff, lots of cheap stuff they could be doing (how about releasing an artistic rendering of the city used for the film to generate buzz).As for District 9 ,they ran a very unique viral marketing campaign on and off the web which suited that particular film, you can't expect that for this film (especially from this distributor)
#Bat King - The above ( :D)

PLease stop - you have no bloody idea what you're talking about, so stop repeating the same old tired mantra.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 01 March, 2012, 09:34:34 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 01 March, 2012, 09:14:24 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 01 March, 2012, 09:11:25 PM
So if Dredds 40 and Anderssssssons 20 something who would be Chief Judge ?

What?

It's Rakie Ayola; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0043931/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0043931/)

I know whos playing the part Goaty :) I was just wondering who the Chief Judge would be.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 01 March, 2012, 09:44:35 PM
The chief judge is [spoiler]credited as 'the chief judge', and a woman in her 40s/50s. No other detail is given, nor is any more than that relevant to the story.

If the CJ is to be a significant character in any sequels, they can elaborate, or recast and use one of the ones from the comics.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 01 March, 2012, 09:46:24 PM
I do wonder though if the chief will wear the full judge's uniform - would seem slightly ridiculous for what is essentially an administrator to be decked out in full riot-style body armour. Fine in the comics, a bit silly on screen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 01 March, 2012, 09:46:41 PM
 I can't believe how cagey they are being with information over this film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 01 March, 2012, 09:46:51 PM
Missed you previous post RC.As for the rest ,I actually work in marketing .........

Cue wait for something official to happen.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 01 March, 2012, 09:54:28 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 March, 2012, 09:46:51 PM
Missed you previous post RC.As for the rest ,I actually work in marketing .........

Cue wait for something official to happen.

I then refer you to m'learned friend Mr Bill Hicks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 01 March, 2012, 09:59:10 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 01 March, 2012, 09:54:28 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 March, 2012, 09:46:51 PM
Missed you previous post RC.As for the rest ,I actually work in marketing .........

Cue wait for something official to happen.

I then refer you to m'learned friend Mr Bill Hicks.

OOOOOOOOOOOooooooo!   :lol: Jim Campbell's spirit lives on
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 01 March, 2012, 10:05:19 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 01 March, 2012, 09:54:28 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 March, 2012, 09:46:51 PM
Missed you previous post RC.As for the rest ,I actually work in marketing .........

Cue wait for something official to happen.

I then refer you to m'learned friend Mr Bill Hicks.
:thumbsup: Just looked up that clip. Never seen it before. Brilliant.




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 01 March, 2012, 10:11:50 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 March, 2012, 09:14:03 PM
#MIK -If you don't even know about the story you wont go and see it (silly  ;))

I already know more than enough about it. I don't need to know any more 'til shortly before it's available to watch. I tend not to plan trips to the pictures several months in advance. I do not need to know right now, in the same way I would not need to know, a year beforehand, about a new flavour of crisp that was coming out, or a new brand of absorbent toilet paper.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 March, 2012, 10:13:22 PM
Really? Probably one of his most well-known bits, that and the crucifix/rifle thing...

I quite like Bill Hicks, just wish I found him funny.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 01 March, 2012, 10:22:40 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 01 March, 2012, 10:13:22 PM
Really? Probably one of his most well-known bits, that and the crucifix/rifle thing...

I quite like Bill Hicks, just wish I found him funny.

Oddly enough, I agree totally.  A very interesting and charismatic guy, no doubt about it, and I would hope his intelligent anti-establishment message has made a profound impact.  But funny? Not to me, I'm afraid. Anyway, massive tangent - looking forward to the Dredd film, me
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 01 March, 2012, 10:24:46 PM
QuoteI quite like Bill Hicks, just wish I found him funny.

I'm in the same boat.

Used to own a Hicks video, some of his material is quite funny, but it is delivered in such an abrasive, toe-curling way I could never really get into it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 March, 2012, 10:29:42 PM

Sorry as I was not know about Bill Hicks, or not hear him, (bit trick as youtube not got subtitles to see what he says)

But I found about him in Preacher graphic books.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 01 March, 2012, 10:36:16 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 01 March, 2012, 10:29:42 PM

Sorry as I was not know about Bill Hicks, or not hear him, (bit trick as youtube not got subtitles to see what he says)

But I found about him in Preacher graphic books.

I was just thinking about that - never been a fan either of Garth Ennis's tendency towards the whole 2 MEN + SHARED LIKE OF PARTICULAR ASPECT OF POP CULTURE = BONDING thing.  Still like his stuff all the same
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 01 March, 2012, 11:51:22 PM
Thanks for clearing that up Radiator.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 March, 2012, 12:47:13 AM
Quote from: radiator on 01 March, 2012, 09:46:24 PM
I do wonder though if the chief will wear the full judge's uniform - would seem slightly ridiculous for what is essentially an administrator to be decked out in full riot-style body armour. Fine in the comics, a bit silly on screen.


She has a uniform with small epaulets.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 March, 2012, 01:02:03 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 March, 2012, 09:14:03 PM
#Vzzbux -I'm busy.As for, 'they know what they are doing' ,they haven't got a good track record, the distributors, when it comes to promotion
#MIK -If you don't even know about the story you wont go and see it (silly  ;))
#Radiator-Stop labouring on cost.One man and his computer trained dog can set up and run a website for next to nowt, a poster isn't a big expense, nor is viral stuff, lots of cheap stuff they could be doing (how about releasing an artistic rendering of the city used for the film to generate buzz).As for District 9 ,they ran a very unique viral marketing campaign on and off the web which suited that particular film, you can't expect that for this film (especially from this distributor)
#Bat King - The above ( :D)



Whateva. It's a simplistic argument.

Total Recall will be released nearly 2 months before Dredd -has 6 times Dredd's budget- and there's still no trailer nor even a website for it either and I've yet to hear anyone complain or criticise. Why would anyone in their right mind release a trailer for Dredd now, at this time, with recent massive trailers for Avengers & Spider-Man swamping any competition and with very apparent similarities to the Raid -released in March- it would be incredibly foolish for them to play their hand. We ain't gonna see anything substantial till a lot of this stuff dies down.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Radbacker on 02 March, 2012, 02:49:26 AM
QuoteI do wonder though if the chief will wear the full judge's uniform - would seem slightly ridiculous for what is essentially an administrator to be decked out in full riot-style body armour. Fine in the comics, a bit silly on screen.
I absolutly love the new street judge uniforms for the new movie but wouldn't it be cool if they also had some kind of blingy parade/dress uniform (and the Chief Judge wears it all the time as she doesn't have to get out on the streets) a little bit more akin to the Big Shoulder pads in the comic now?  Then the people complaining about the plainer riot gear look of the street uniform can be satisfied with a more stylised Dress uniform.  (this point may have been made somewhere on this thread sorry if I missed it).
We'll get a trailer when they're good and ready, prbly couple of months before release like most modest budgeted movies it really is only the blockbusters that get maketed so far before release.

CU Radbacker
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 02 March, 2012, 03:05:58 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 01 March, 2012, 09:54:28 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 March, 2012, 09:46:51 PM
Missed you previous post RC.As for the rest ,I actually work in marketing .........

Cue wait for something official to happen.

I then refer you to m'learned friend Mr Bill Hicks.

Very good -not seen that before  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 02 March, 2012, 07:01:21 AM
 ::) :-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 02 March, 2012, 10:01:04 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 March, 2012, 09:14:03 PM
#Radiator-Stop labouring on cost.One man and his computer trained dog can set up and run a website for next to nowt
Spoken like someone who has no idea.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 02 March, 2012, 10:31:39 AM
Quote from: radiator on 01 March, 2012, 09:46:24 PM
I do wonder though if the chief will wear the full judge's uniform - would seem slightly ridiculous for what is essentially an administrator to be decked out in full riot-style body armour. Fine in the comics, a bit silly on screen.

I wondered if we might see a uniform more true to the comics (with bigger eagle, chain etc.) make an appearance as a dress uniform. I'm pretty sure most services (from police and fire up to the military) use this system.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 02 March, 2012, 10:32:41 AM
Ah, I see Radbacker made exactly the same point I did...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 March, 2012, 11:18:27 AM
She has a simpler uniform with small epaulets.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 02 March, 2012, 11:40:29 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 March, 2012, 11:18:27 AM
She has a simpler uniform with small epaulets.

Have you seen a pic?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 02 March, 2012, 02:05:48 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 March, 2012, 11:18:27 AM
She has a simpler uniform with small epaulets.
Embarassed to say that I had to look up what an epaulet was in the first place.  :-[
Once there is no ceremorial type cape on her uniform, always thought they were cheesey in some artist depictions of any of the Chief Judges along with the Judges in high heels.  :-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 02 March, 2012, 02:30:57 PM
Oh I dunno,there is something about a Judge in high heels  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 March, 2012, 02:39:42 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 02 March, 2012, 02:30:57 PM
Oh I dunno,there is something about a Judge in high heels  :o

No, cant see it...

(http://cdn2.mamapop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/sexy-judge.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 02 March, 2012, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 02 March, 2012, 10:01:04 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 March, 2012, 09:14:03 PM
#Radiator-Stop labouring on cost.One man and his computer trained dog can set up and run a website for next to nowt
Spoken like someone who has no idea.

Oh please ,   ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 02 March, 2012, 05:44:23 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 02 March, 2012, 11:40:29 AM
Have you seen a pic?

She mentioned a choice between big and small epaulettes in a radio interview a year ago. And confirned she was playing the Chief Judge.

http://www.dtrn.co.uk/episode/finale-nana-visitor-ds9

She's on at the 43min40sec mark according to my notes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 02 March, 2012, 06:09:20 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 02 March, 2012, 02:39:42 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 02 March, 2012, 02:30:57 PM
Oh I dunno,there is something about a Judge in high heels  :o

No, cant see it...

(http://cdn2.mamapop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/sexy-judge.jpg)
:o
She out of that  exotic film,Justice Fingers?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 02 March, 2012, 07:48:58 PM
Speaking of trailers, has any one noticed that for all the big blockbusters this year they seem very similar. It's hard to describe in text but if you watch the prometheus trailer and the avengers trailer it's like..

"durn" flash of image "durn" flash of image etc.

I would like the dredd trailer to have a cheesy 70s voice over like the magnum force trailer. But that's just me I think.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 02 March, 2012, 10:47:27 PM
My experience too, they're all kind of blurring into each other. I wonder why? Dredd's the only one I'm interested in, hopefully it will be different to the crop of other films this year (yawn)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 03 March, 2012, 12:38:58 AM
In the absence of anything juicy and informative, I'd like to share a fear that haunts me about the whole notion of a new incarnation of our beloved Joseph in celluloid form: is it possible, do you think, that everything that made him so important and different and engaging and iconic belongs to an earlier 'zeitgeist'?

I mean, Robocop was clearly a Judge Dredd film, so much so, that the creators of the Stallone debacle were hamstrung from the outset with the doubly difficult brief of not only making a Dredd film but also making something new, and that maybe this was a contributing factor to the final product being neither? 

Criticisms of the Stallone film to this day include accusations of 'ripping off' Robocop and that's because  so many of the ideas that made the strip great were already 'out there' as a result of that film, and thatfilm came out a long time ago.

Perhaps the world-rocking elements of Dredd as we experienced have seeped into the general conscience by now, ( via Robocop and other creators and products heavily influenced by the 2000ad 'Golden age' ) that even the most faithful representation might seem unimpressive to those who weren't 'there-at-the-time?'.
I love Garland's script I love the casting, I love the uniform, and even though the vehicles and block interiors we've seen remind me of Paradise Towers in Dr Who I love them too: It's just a personal fear, borne of love of the strip, that even in the very best incarnation, that even in the most faithful-in-spirit Dredd film we could have... that other folks  wont  ' get it ?'

Because ( for them ) it will be nothing new?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 03 March, 2012, 02:05:10 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 03 March, 2012, 12:38:58 AM
In the absence of anything juicy and informative, I'd like to share a fear that haunts me about the whole notion of a new incarnation of our beloved Joseph in celluloid form: is it possible, do you think, that everything that made him so important and different and engaging and iconic belongs to an earlier 'zeitgeist'?

I mean, Robocop was clearly a Judge Dredd film, so much so, that the creators of the Stallone debacle were hamstrung from the outset with the doubly difficult brief of not only making a Dredd film but also making something new, and that maybe this was a contributing factor to the final product being neither? 

Criticisms of the Stallone film to this day include accusations of 'ripping off' Robocop and that's because  so many of the ideas that made the strip great were already 'out there' as a result of that film, and thatfilm came out a long time ago.

Perhaps the world-rocking elements of Dredd as we experienced have seeped into the general conscience by now, ( via Robocop and other creators and products heavily influenced by the 2000ad 'Golden age' ) that even the most faithful representation might seem unimpressive to those who weren't 'there-at-the-time?'.
I love Garland's script I love the casting, I love the uniform, and even though the vehicles and block interiors we've seen remind me of Paradise Towers in Dr Who I love them too: It's just a personal fear, borne of love of the strip, that even in the very best incarnation, that even in the most faithful-in-spirit Dredd film we could have... that other folks  wont  ' get it ?'

Because ( for them ) it will be nothing new?

Thats a fair point darnmarr,there are many traits that are specific to Dredd and his world which add depth to the character and story in this particular film that will seperate him from Robocop. Similarities there will always be but im confident this film will set some distance between Dredd and the former.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 03 March, 2012, 08:56:50 AM
Yeah, I think it will do well, but mainly appeal to Dredd fans; unlike Stallone's version which didn't do either.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 03 March, 2012, 09:21:30 AM
I hope the masses see Dredd as the antidote to lycra clad goodie goodie superheroes.
I think  Dredd can fit in the same niche as Blade.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: LARF on 03 March, 2012, 09:58:02 AM
Never got the Dredd is Robocop thing, or vice versa. Robocop is nothing like Dredd
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 03 March, 2012, 11:49:25 AM
RoboCop is a satire on capitalism. 'We had exclusive Military contract with Ed 209...who cares if it worked or not!'

Judge Dredd [the comic] is a satire on life. Everything is awful in Judge Dredd from the food you eat to the insane inhabitants of Mega City 1 etc everything is going crazy.

How close are we to the Superhero's of Marvel and DC who are basically Gods moving amongst the little people? We're not even close. Most of us will live shitty lives doing shitty jobs and not even one our shitty dreams will come true.

We're a lot closer to Mega City 1 with it's concrete sprawl,dis functional self absorbed citizens and endless urban decay. We're virtually there already. Just a few decades and will be living it if not already since I'm a country boy.

That's why for me Dredd is the best by reflecting just how terrible human nature really is. You might be a genetically enhanced superman but your just a another bastard underneath it all. Truly awful! That's more like it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 03 March, 2012, 12:23:46 PM
Quote from: fonky on 03 March, 2012, 08:56:50 AMYeah, I think it will do well, but mainly appeal to Dredd fans
Given the relatively tiny number of people who know or care about Dredd, my hope is that the movie has some seriously widespread appeal, and isn't just something that will mainly appeal to Dredd fans. Beyond it being a total flop, a worst-case scenario is what happened to Serenity—never managing to break out beyond its core audience (which, I suspect, was probably a larger demographic than Dredd fans).

But from what I'm seeing so far, Dredd in movie form is positioning itself outside of a really tight niche. It's a no-excuses action flick, which ticks many boxes; it's seemingly pretty accessible, which ticks more; and it has an edgy near-future sci-fi vibe, which is pretty in vogue, thereby ticking more. Ultimately, people will flock to Dredd if its a visceral, exciting, thrilling, engaging movie, not because it's a version of a relatively niche British comic-book character. From what I've seen so far, I'm hopeful—and certainly more so than when I saw the shiny 1990s bollocks of the Stallone flick.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 03 March, 2012, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 03 March, 2012, 12:23:46 PM
.... shiny 1990s bollocks ...
that whole film in three words :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 March, 2012, 02:42:56 PM
I would also imagine that overall it's a relatively less risky venture than the bloated, massively expensive Stallone version.

Dredd is pretty big-budget for a non-Hollywood, independent film, but it doesn't have to bring in summer blockbuster numbers to succeed. I very much doubt that Dredd could ever carry a massive blockbuster crowd-pleaser.

Slick, subversive, dark low-ish budget action movie suits the character much better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 03 March, 2012, 09:27:43 PM
I feel that often people over rate the importance of being original. I saw a great independent action movie a while ago called Hanna. The plot didn't jump out at me, a female assassin trained from a young age with some agency trying to kill her, it seemed pretty basic. But the style of the film and the incredible soundtrack by the chemical brothers made it a really great movie with one scene in particular that was truly fantastic.

There's a great quote from independent film maker Jim Jarmusch -

"Nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings, photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows. Select only things to steal from that speak directly to your soul. If you do this, your work (and theft) will be authentic. Authenticity is invaluable; originality is non-existent. And don't bother concealing your thievery - celebrate it if you feel like it. In any case, always remember what Jean-Luc Godard said: "It's not where you take things from - it's where you take them to."


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 04 March, 2012, 07:41:52 AM
I like that quote.

Stay tuned for the'' Adventures of the Grumpy 'take no shit' future Supercop JUSTICEMAN '' soon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 04 March, 2012, 11:05:26 AM
Quote...the shiny 1990s bollocks of the Stallone flick.

Just how literally do you mean that?

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r153/brnwlsh/dreddstallone11.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 04 March, 2012, 11:07:27 AM
It sends chills up my spine every time I see that image.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 04 March, 2012, 11:42:17 AM
The new uniform if a massive improvement.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 04 March, 2012, 01:56:14 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 04 March, 2012, 07:41:52 AM
I like that quote.

Stay tuned for the'' Adventures of the Grumpy 'take no shit' future Supercop JUSTICEMAN '' soon.

lol  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 04 March, 2012, 03:11:33 PM
Dredd's in this list. After Twighlight and before American Reunion 




http://www.virginmedia.com/movies/features/most-exciting-movies-of-2012.php?page=12
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 04 March, 2012, 03:13:01 PM
Sorry wrong link!

My old comuter so I forgot how crap it could be.

Moderators please delete the above link.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 04 March, 2012, 04:02:25 PM
All fixed now!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 04 March, 2012, 04:04:29 PM
Amazing! The Mods are Cyber Gods!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 04 March, 2012, 04:08:37 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CHvWky08Fkg/TUiMjdNZDDI/AAAAAAAAAAo/sRTZXcsc318/s1600/vintage-mods.jpg)

Ahhh, the old ones are the best.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 04 March, 2012, 05:00:45 PM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 04 March, 2012, 04:08:37 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CHvWky08Fkg/TUiMjdNZDDI/AAAAAAAAAAo/sRTZXcsc318/s1600/vintage-mods.jpg)

Ahhh, the old ones are the best.
That lawmaster looks a little retro to me.  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 04 March, 2012, 05:07:57 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 04 March, 2012, 05:00:45 PM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 04 March, 2012, 04:08:37 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CHvWky08Fkg/TUiMjdNZDDI/AAAAAAAAAAo/sRTZXcsc318/s1600/vintage-mods.jpg)

Ahhh, the old ones are the best.
That lawmaster looks a little retro to me.  :o

Helmet's too big, wheels are too small, the shoulder pads are barely visible and he sounds too much like Bale's batman
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 04 March, 2012, 06:13:43 PM
But at least he's not got a ludicrous cod piece on.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 06 March, 2012, 12:07:57 AM
Wow, This thread is long! (is there a limit?)
I haven't checked the forum for a while, & when I did there was a leaked gif from the film!
How excited was I!!!! Looks great for the few seconds that were shown even in poor quality.
Provoked quite some discussions didn't it! And now we are on to penning the sequels...(for my 2pence I'd like to see World Judges Hondo/Brit-Cit/Sov)
I've always figured that a AKIRA style cartoon would be ideal for Dredd (and MC1) and could surely be made relatively cheaply, just ask Kenny Who.

For all those moaning about a lack of official news about the film I remember before the internet where one had to watch some late night film show, (on one of my 4 available channels) or buy some overpriced magazine for a few paragraphs about my all time fav comic character coming to the big screen.
Which made the disappointment worse I suppose because the idea it was going to be great lasted until I saw it...  :(
Talking of which, something I need to get off my chest: Everytime 'that film' is on tv the RadioTimes trotts out the same old review which gives it 4 out of 5 stars!!! >:( Grrrrrr

Anyway, just like to say that there seems to be some really rather intelligent/witty/stubborn/knowing/creative people on here and have enjoyed visiting and reading posts.

x

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 06 March, 2012, 01:35:07 AM
Welcome to the forum Stu.

We all want the best for the Dredd movie and opinions can be at times strong because so many of us have been with Dredd for the full 35 years! A long time invested.The prospects look good with the production team on-board but the division is how close to Dredds world it will represent and how well it's publicised -time will tell and fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 06 March, 2012, 02:36:31 AM
Stu
If there is a place for that inexplicable enthusiasm  for a ( originally-two-dimesional, and subsequently multi-dimensional) character, you have found it: pull up a chair, and get enthusiastic!
From what I can gather, we love our Joseph round these parts: principally in graphical form, but with high hopes for what is to come, we anticipte, not our Dredd, but a Dredd that is Dredd enough to illustrate the difference between 'shiny 1990's bollox' and a solid, shit-cool, story-rich, starter for a franchise with shitloads to work from.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 07 March, 2012, 09:41:17 AM
What are the Post Production people doing now? Com positing the final shots?  Giving Ma Ma more scars?

Pixellating Karl Urbans chin?

Oh the possibilities!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 07 March, 2012, 10:43:40 AM
Probably tweaking fx and colour grading etc. Also, the soundtrack is probably being completed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 March, 2012, 10:51:41 AM
The film's done. The final mix was 2 weeks ago at AIR studios and there was a screening at Pinewood.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 07 March, 2012, 11:03:02 AM
That means someone seen the completed  Movie!

Don't keep quite about it whoever you are?! ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 07 March, 2012, 11:33:18 AM
Quote from: radiator on 07 March, 2012, 10:43:40 AM
Probably tweaking fx and colour grading etc. Also, the soundtrack is probably being completed.
Please no teal/orange grading.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 March, 2012, 11:42:16 AM
It's yellow & green.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 07 March, 2012, 01:08:08 PM

Analogous colour scheme. Escape from New York has some fine green moments in it.

http://youtu.be/KbzhF_G8aXs
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 07 March, 2012, 11:04:49 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 March, 2012, 10:51:41 AM
The film's done. The final mix was 2 weeks ago at AIR studios and there was a screening at Pinewood.

Adopts faux German accent, "very interesting Joe."

Hopefully that droid Jock was present and he'll be dropping by soon to give us some juicy info!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 March, 2012, 12:48:41 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 07 March, 2012, 11:04:49 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 March, 2012, 10:51:41 AM
The film's done. The final mix was 2 weeks ago at AIR studios and there was a screening at Pinewood.


Hopefully that droid Jock was present and he'll be dropping by soon to give us some juicy info!



It was only for the finalising of the dub.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 08 March, 2012, 11:00:44 AM
I finalised your mom's dub.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 March, 2012, 11:23:54 AM
Does this mean we are getting a Dub sound track for DREDD?!  . . . abit of Yellow man or Aswad would be ace!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 08 March, 2012, 11:34:40 AM
No, it means wall-to-wall Skrillex.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 March, 2012, 11:40:27 AM
 :D  . . .  it might work, dub step seems to be the flavour of the moment!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 March, 2012, 11:55:48 AM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 08 March, 2012, 11:00:44 AM
I finalised your mom's dub.



You couldn't handle a Dub.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 08 March, 2012, 12:01:19 PM
We've all handled Rogers moms dub.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 March, 2012, 12:46:48 PM
This conversation is starting to sound abit 'American Pie'!   :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 08 March, 2012, 01:51:48 PM
so the soundtrack's been recorded in Dubly? 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 March, 2012, 02:30:10 PM
Someone on IMDB claims to have been at a promo screening:


I've just seen a 6min promo at a cinema in london. I'll lay my cards on the table. I thought the 1995 version was a mess. Some of the lighting and sets were very good but that was about it. I'm not a fan of the comics either.

The new version looked amazing. Huge sets but none of it looked studio bound. Imaging Bladerunner during daylight hours. There seemed to be alot of slow mo and a huge amount of violence. Very graphic violence. I haven't seen a mainstraem film this violent in some time. One scene had a man's head being blown apart in slow mo. This will be an R in the US and easily an 18 in the UK.

Wasn't looking forward to seeing it but am now.



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/thread/195926171
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 March, 2012, 02:32:54 PM
Quote from: fonky on 08 March, 2012, 01:51:48 PM
so the soundtrack's been recorded in Dubly?

Fecking ace! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 March, 2012, 02:36:02 PM
The last post by Joe sounds promising. Back to 80's style movie violence ... :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 March, 2012, 02:39:45 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 March, 2012, 02:30:10 PM
Someone on IMDB claims to have been at a promo screening:


I've just seen a 6min promo at a cinema in london. I'll lay my cards on the table. I thought the 1995 version was a mess. Some of the lighting and sets were very good but that was about it. I'm not a fan of the comics either.

The new version looked amazing. Huge sets but none of it looked studio bound. Imaging Bladerunner during daylight hours. There seemed to be alot of slow mo and a huge amount of violence. Very graphic violence. I haven't seen a mainstraem film this violent in some time. One scene had a man's head being blown apart in slow mo. This will be an R in the US and easily an 18 in the UK.

Wasn't looking forward to seeing it but am now.






http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/thread/195926171


Of course it could be a "plant" with bad spelling. Seems a bit pandering to the cinema "swing voters".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 March, 2012, 02:41:54 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 March, 2012, 02:39:45 PM
Someone on IMDB claims to have been at a promo screening:


I've just seen a 6min promo at a cinema in london. I'll lay my cards on the table. I thought the 1995 version was a mess. Some of the lighting and sets were very good but that was about it. I'm not a fan of the comics either.

The new version looked amazing. Huge sets but none of it looked studio bound. Imaging Bladerunner during daylight hours. There seemed to be alot of slow mo and a huge amount of violence. Very graphic violence. I haven't seen a mainstraem film this violent in some time. One scene had a man's head being blown apart in slow mo. This will be an R in the US and easily an 18 in the UK.

Wasn't looking forward to seeing it but am now.






http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/thread/195926171

That IMDB user been at James Bond films IMDBs a lot... remind me of someone... but strange as this post is positive, so 6 mins promo... Where they could show it in London?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 March, 2012, 02:46:49 PM
Can any of our men in the know validate this?  ...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 08 March, 2012, 02:55:10 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 March, 2012, 02:30:10 PM
Someone on IMDB claims to have been at a promo screening:


I've just seen a 6min promo at a cinema in london. I'll lay my cards on the table. I thought the 1995 version was a mess. Some of the lighting and sets were very good but that was about it. I'm not a fan of the comics either.

The new version looked amazing. Huge sets but none of it looked studio bound. Imaging Bladerunner during daylight hours. There seemed to be alot of slow mo and a huge amount of violence. Very graphic violence. I haven't seen a mainstraem film this violent in some time. One scene had a man's head being blown apart in slow mo. This will be an R in the US and easily an 18 in the UK.

Wasn't looking forward to seeing it but am now.



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/thread/195926171

Speechless..sounds like my prayers have been answered
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 March, 2012, 03:07:30 PM
QuoteOf course it could be a "plant" with bad spelling. Seems a bit pandering to the cinema "swing voters".

Do film studios really do this sort of thing, though? Wouldn't have thought it would make any difference whatsoever in terms of box office. And would they do it six months ahead of release?

Why would the filmmakers be screening a six-minute clip now? Is this common practice?

If this is true, then I expect we will be hearing more about it shortly.....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 March, 2012, 03:30:23 PM
Quote from: radiator on 08 March, 2012, 03:07:30 PM
QuoteOf course it could be a "plant" with bad spelling. Seems a bit pandering to the cinema "swing voters".

Do film studios really do this sort of thing, though? Wouldn't have thought it would make any difference whatsoever in terms of box office. And would they do it six months ahead of release?


Yep. They sometimes do and appear on filmsites, they're easy to spot too.


Quote from: radiator on 08 March, 2012, 03:07:30 PM


Why would the filmmakers be screening a six-minute clip now? Is this common practice?




Could be for any reason, investors or gearing for promotions, exhibitors etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 08 March, 2012, 04:29:15 PM
An exploding head movie? Everyone loves an exploding head movie. Cor! :lol:

I agree with Radiator it seems a bit strange they're air a six minute promo clip now. I'd put it down to the amount of expectation there is surrounding this film... is it gonna be good or like the last one? If it's true then all this curiosity surrounding it bodes well for the film methinks.

Let's hope this insider information is reliable and not just a plant.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 March, 2012, 04:47:24 PM
Quote from: fonky on 08 March, 2012, 04:29:15 PM
An exploding head movie? Everyone loves an exploding head movie. Cor! :lol:


Remember 'Scanners' ... that had heads popping all over the show!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 08 March, 2012, 05:35:47 PM
Quote[quote author=JOE SOAP link=topic=34200.msg658803#msg658803

The new version looked amazing. Huge sets but none of it looked studio bound. Imaging Bladerunner during daylight hours. There seemed to be alot of slow mo and a huge amount of violence. Very graphic violence. I haven't seen a mainstraem film this violent in some time. One scene had a man's head being blown apart in slow mo. This will be an R in the US and easily an 18 in the UK.

Wasn't looking forward to seeing it but am now.[/i]


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/thread/195926171



Very nice to hear if true. And from a non fan.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 March, 2012, 05:55:42 PM
Quote from: fonky on 08 March, 2012, 04:29:15 PM
I agree with Radiator it seems a bit strange they're air a six minute promo clip now.


Why, what's strange about it? It all depends on who they're showing it to. This stuff goes on all the time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 March, 2012, 06:01:09 PM
Whether its a bit of spin from the studio or a genuine post, I don't think it's bullshit - everything in it rings true.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 March, 2012, 06:02:24 PM
It wasn't a public screening that's for sure, maybe early press, wait and see.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 March, 2012, 06:43:23 PM
Quote from: radiator on 08 March, 2012, 06:01:09 PM
Whether its a bit of spin from the studio or a genuine post, I don't think it's bullshit - everything in it rings true.

Everything in it is public domain though, Anderson blowing a creeps head off and the [spoiler]script featuring the "slo-mo" scenes[/spoiler].

If it is a genuine critique then all good :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 08 March, 2012, 07:06:04 PM
Was a bit worried about the slow-mo until I remembered that it's actually intergral to the plot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 08 March, 2012, 07:12:07 PM
Grud on a greenie!

What brilliant news! Anticipation mode set to maximum! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 March, 2012, 10:03:20 PM
The IMDB post has been deleted...  :-*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 08 March, 2012, 10:41:01 PM
That was quick. Make of it what you will. If the post wasn't genuine would anyone have bothered to delete it?

Just to echo an earlier comment, glad to hear a non fan is comparing it to Bladerunner. A good sign.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 08 March, 2012, 11:27:47 PM
Seems MichaelvK's confirmation of violence levels akin to Rambo is coming through. Hope it doesn't detract it too much from the story itself. Good to hear some positive vibes coming through.   
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 March, 2012, 11:36:37 PM
Arghhh!!! Need trailer!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 08 March, 2012, 11:41:23 PM
I'm just glad to hear that they're not going to tone it down. This film will hopefully be in stark contrast to all the other homogenised comic book movies coming out this year.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 09 March, 2012, 03:10:37 AM
Quote from: radiator on 08 March, 2012, 10:03:20 PM
The IMDB post has been deleted...  :-*

Presumably because people seeing this kind of promo are required to sign non-disclosure agreements.  It wouldn't be unreasonable for the film company to request a take-down.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 09 March, 2012, 05:05:44 AM
Oooohhhhh... if this IMDB post is on the money, this is not only great news - no, make that GREAT news - then it pretty much kills the recent other IMDB post about the ultra-violence being toned down, I hope it's not, a nice bit of bloody mayhem in an onscreen Big Meg (interesting the Blade Runner  comparison has once again been made) is something to be relished, fingers crossed it's kosher.

And despite some snarky comments about my recent posts about an imminent Dredd trailer, I'm telling y'all one is imminent, and I mean it....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: norse_sage on 09 March, 2012, 09:57:48 AM
I have no doubt that a trailer, or rather a teaser, is iminent.

LGF's heavy hitter this side of summer is "The Hunger Games", which opens in two weeks. As such, a "Dredd" teaser being attached to it wouldn't be too surprising, even if the respective audiences might not overlap all that much. Also, teasers and trailers tend to be released a few days prior to them appearing in cinemas - so I would think we might see the official Dredd footage maybe as early as next week.

I'm however more curios about the reaction to the screening of the finished movie for Rebellion...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 09 March, 2012, 10:12:00 AM
QuotePresumably because people seeing this kind of promo are required to sign non-disclosure agreements.  It wouldn't be unreasonable for the film company to request a take-down.

Yeah I know. If anything, the post being deleted makes it slightly more likely to be genuine.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 March, 2012, 11:14:36 AM
I doubt any Trailer is imminent. Even if it was releasing a Trailer in the ships wake of Hunger games is surely the wrong thing.

Hunger games is rated a PG13, DREDD's target audience will be 18+ if the Vorhoeven levels of blood letting are to be believed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 March, 2012, 11:18:54 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 March, 2012, 11:14:36 AM
I doubt any Trailer is imminent. Even if it was releasing a Trailer in the ships wake of Hunger games is surely the wrong thing.

Hunger games is rated a PG13, DREDD's target audience will be 18+ if the Vorhoeven levels of blood letting are to be believed.

Yes, but what films you think Dredd Trailer will be suitable to?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 March, 2012, 11:24:51 AM
Precisely!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 09 March, 2012, 12:11:24 PM
A trailer stripping out any graphic violence could quite easily be attached to a 12 cert movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 March, 2012, 12:37:10 PM

So Lionsgate are promoting both the Hunger Games and DREDD? Now it makes sense.

Since we're too small an audience at the 2000ad website [we are >sniff<]and the younger people  are much more on the social media sites etc promoting the Film besides their 'big' Movie release they'll hope the twitter/Facebook brigades will twiddle their thumbs and do their promoting for them!

Oh the evil of Capitalism!.   saw new HG Film -cool! + something about a Future cop -scary.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 March, 2012, 02:20:29 PM
They should release a red band trailer on the internet. People love red band trailers.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 09 March, 2012, 04:39:58 PM
I would bet my arse on there being a red band,only to underscore to the people who are familiar with Slys Dredd that this is a whole different kettle of fish.

And my moneys still on a Kapow debut.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 09 March, 2012, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 09 March, 2012, 11:18:54 AM
Yes, but what films you think Dredd Trailer will be suitable to?

The Jason Statham film, SAFE (April 27th), or even The Cabin in the Woods (April 13th). Having said that, even a June trailer wouldn't be inconsistant with Lionsgate's ad campaigns from the past couple of years irrespective of whether the film's expected to do well or not.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 March, 2012, 06:35:20 PM
How about The Raid: Redemption (US: 23 March, UK 18 May)?


:-\




*grab the coat and ran so far!*

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: golledge100 on 09 March, 2012, 07:04:27 PM
QuoteAnd despite some snarky comments about my recent posts about an imminent Dredd trailer, I'm telling y'all one is imminent, and I mean it....

Can you clarify how long your "imminent" piece of string is Beaky? 1 week? 1 month? 2 months?
If you can't, then your statement is both pointless and obvious. The thing that's both irritating and amusing in equal measure is the fact that your posts suggest you know something we don't, when in fact you know as little as we do.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 09 March, 2012, 07:09:00 PM
We'll get a poster before a trailer, shirley?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 09 March, 2012, 08:42:04 PM
I would have thought so Roger.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 10 March, 2012, 02:18:03 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 09 March, 2012, 07:09:00 PM
We'll get a poster before a trailer, shirley?

Don't call me Shirley.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 10 March, 2012, 04:39:25 AM
Quote from: golledge100 on 09 March, 2012, 07:04:27 PM
Can you clarify how long your "imminent" piece of string is Beaky? 1 week? 1 month? 2 months?
If you can't, then your statement is both pointless and obvious. The thing that's both irritating and amusing in equal measure is the fact that your posts suggest you know something we don't, when in fact you know as little as we do.

I'm fully aware how it looks, and maybe I was wrong to have even mentioned it in hindsight (unbridled enthusiasm trumping discretion), but this person has been bang-on right in the past on these matters, I trust them, and he/she simply stated the Dredd trailer was "imminent", and that was about it, if I knew ANYTHING else (which I most certainly don't), I would not be posting in cloak-and-dagger terms, although it's not only this person, the whole Dredd project has been leaking like a sieve since it's inception - the entire script, props, the Lawmaster, post-production work, etc. - and that's not even including the recent unsubstantiated media reports of behind-the-scenes disagreements, DNA Films' supposed concern over the ultra-violent content, and even the IMDB report of a recent 6-minute exhibition preview screening of footage (if that report is true and that person may be who I think it is, which they most likely aren't, it probably is accurate), so it's not only from me that unsubstantiated news is coming from, but like I said, I was probably wrong to post the initial 'scoop' in the first place, but I firmly believe it to be kosher, and if it isn't, then I'll be the fool, and not for the first or last time either... apologies for how it appeared, golledge dude (or anyone else), to gratuitously tantalise was not the intent, I'll get me coat!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 10 March, 2012, 08:14:52 AM
Your ok by me Beaky.  Free forum and free speech, everybodies opinion and thoughts are equal. Just air them and move on no explaination required.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: golledge100 on 10 March, 2012, 10:13:26 AM
Quote. I'll get me coat!
Sheesh! Now I feel guilty. Sorry Beaky.  My intent was to defend my previous sarcky comment rather than sound like I was actually having a go! Put your coat down.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 10 March, 2012, 05:20:06 PM
Well Beaky has been making lots of hints and not backing them up with any evidence, suggesting to the forum to have inside knowledge.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 10 March, 2012, 07:23:24 PM
If Beaky "feels" its imminent its his entitlement to think so. Personally I dont think we will get a sniff till May at the earliest, just my own feelings.

But on the positive side with Jocks comments about it looking "VERY VERY GOOD" we should ease up a little and just wait for hopefully more good news to come.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 March, 2012, 03:55:28 AM
I don't think I can take this much longer! I need a trailer! Just something! Arghhhhh!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 11 March, 2012, 04:14:13 AM
Quote from: golledge100 on 10 March, 2012, 10:13:26 AM
Sheesh! Now I feel guilty. Sorry Beaky.  My intent was to defend my previous sarcky comment rather than sound like I was actually having a go! Put your coat down.

Absolutely none required nor needed, golledge dude :thumbsup:, I've learnt my lesson, from here on in, it's strictly official Dredd news that gets relayed/mentioned/commented on at Smoochies H.Q...

Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 March, 2012, 03:55:28 AM
I don't think I can take this much longer! I need a trailer! Just something! Arghhhhh!!!!!!

I second that motion your hon'r... mind you, we HAVE had quite a few zarjaz pics thus far!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 11 March, 2012, 06:14:12 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 11 March, 2012, 04:14:13 AM
Absolutely none required nor needed, golledge dude :thumbsup:, I've learnt my lesson, from here on in, it's strictly official Dredd news that gets relayed/mentioned/commented on at Smoochies H.Q...

When I said "none required nor needed" in the above post, I meant to be more specific and say that no apology was needed nor required from your good self, golledge dude, but for some reason THE 'MODIFY' BUTTON HAS GONE BYE-BYE, but I felt compelled to just make that clear, in case of any potential misunderstanding there...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 March, 2012, 10:45:37 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 March, 2012, 03:55:28 AM
I don't think I can take this much longer! I need a trailer! Just something! Arghhhhh!!!!!!

All good things come to those that wait.

And wait and wait and wait and wait...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 11 March, 2012, 12:41:35 PM
17 years is a long time. I wonder why everyone on here is so impatient?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 11 March, 2012, 12:49:40 PM
The big wait for this is like being on the torture rack in the tower of London!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 11 March, 2012, 01:14:39 PM
Its not so much the wait,it's the fear I get after the Sly debacle that they will get it wrong again.Sooner I see a trailer or clip then sooner I can hopefully put this fear to bed.
Dredd deserves to be much bigger than he is(always thought he was as a kid).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 11 March, 2012, 01:18:46 PM
You summed it up perfectly Danbo ... well a few months more and the cards are on the table.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 March, 2012, 01:24:24 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 11 March, 2012, 01:14:39 PM
Dredd deserves to be much bigger than he is(always thought he was as a kid).


That, as always, is for an audience to decide.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 11 March, 2012, 01:38:22 PM
I meant the character not the film.He deserves a larger fan base is more what i was going for.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 March, 2012, 01:45:46 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 11 March, 2012, 01:38:22 PM
I meant the character not the film.He deserves a larger fan base is more what i was going for.


The same answer applies. The comics are there, if people want them, they can buy them.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 March, 2012, 01:48:21 PM
Jock's concept folder:


(http://distilleryimage5.instagram.com/ea50ce36693711e1abb01231381b65e3_7.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 11 March, 2012, 01:53:39 PM
I wonder if that's the official movie font/logo...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 11 March, 2012, 01:54:03 PM
Your right but I've not seen 2000ad 0r the Dredd mag on shelves in newsagents for years but that a different problem.I can't figure not why Americans would rather read Aquaman or Green Lantern over Dredd?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 11 March, 2012, 01:54:59 PM
Nice,looks real enough.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 11 March, 2012, 02:03:16 PM
Well going by the last leak it should be a good rendition of Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 March, 2012, 02:05:39 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 11 March, 2012, 01:54:03 PM
I can't figure not why Americans would rather read Aquaman or Green Lantern over Dredd?


That's part of their culture. It's hard to break those bonds. I grew up with 2000AD/Dredd, I don't read US comics apart from indies that appeal to me and I don't see that ever changing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 11 March, 2012, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 11 March, 2012, 01:54:03 PM
Your right but I've not seen 2000ad 0r the Dredd mag on shelves in newsagents for years but that a different problem.

Why is it that? I go into some WH Smith stores and there are loads of copies of 2000ad and the Meg yet others don't stock them at all?I wouldn't have thought it was up to individual store managers what lines they run ....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 11 March, 2012, 02:32:25 PM
We have a new Smiths uptown but all you get are Xmen and Bats,a few US graphic novels.
Tragic.
I like the odd US comic,got loads but even as a kid I preferred 2000ad,more headshots and less lycra.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 11 March, 2012, 02:58:51 PM
Just popping in to not comment on the movie.

Within twenty minutes walk of my house are seven newsagents which stick 2000AD on the shelves every week.

If i extend that to the ones i know of as far away as silverhill- ten minute walk then a ten minute busride- that number grows to 12. And the Meg is stocked by about half of those.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 11 March, 2012, 03:16:54 PM
Good to hear,none in Clitheroe although they will 'get it in for me'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 11 March, 2012, 03:20:31 PM
My local smiths had the meg and the prog tucked behind US imports right at the back, week in week out id rearrange the trash to the back and put the progs pride of place at the front :) Muahahahhaaa *cough*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 March, 2012, 03:24:05 PM
Never had a problem getting 2000ad or The Meg in my local WHSmiths.

Strange you have so much trouble DanboJohnJ.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 11 March, 2012, 03:24:24 PM
That Jock pic is what he submitted for the 2000AD Advent calendar 2010!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 11 March, 2012, 03:30:09 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 11 March, 2012, 03:24:05 PM
Never had a problem getting 2000ad or The Meg in my local WHSmiths.

Strange you have so much trouble DanboJohnJ.
Might do a victor Meldrew and go in for a whinge  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 March, 2012, 03:34:31 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 11 March, 2012, 03:24:24 PM
That Jock pic is what he submitted for the 2000AD Advent calendar 2010!

reuse/recycle

(http://primefocusworld.com/sites/default/files/Dredd-Recruitment-Flyer-NoB.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 11 March, 2012, 03:38:06 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 March, 2012, 03:34:31 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 11 March, 2012, 03:24:24 PM
That Jock pic is what he submitted for the 2000AD Advent calendar 2010!

reuse/recycle

(http://primefocusworld.com/sites/default/files/Dredd-Recruitment-Flyer-NoB.jpg)

Resyk...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 March, 2012, 04:06:21 PM
I am beginning to think a trailer won't be appearing too soon. I was looking on the film classification websites for both the us and uk for 'Dredd' as the trailer needs to be rated and you can see what trailers are coming soon through there. But it wasn't even on there and the upcoming Prometheus trailer (this coming saturday it will be debuted) has been on there for a while, there must be some processing time needed.

Hence the fact it isn't even on there suggests nothing has even been submitted yet!

Though of course maybe I am wrong.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 March, 2012, 04:07:49 PM
And I suppose if they do release the trailer online first then they can have 'not yet rated' trailer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 March, 2012, 04:16:52 PM
Prometheus is out in June, Dredd is out in September, so chill out and be patience :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 12 March, 2012, 04:26:58 PM
I don't think it's case of chilling out, just pointing out that there might not be an 'imminent' trailer inbound.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 March, 2012, 04:27:46 PM
Yeah I know, I know, but still this is just the trailer I am talking about. I am just saying it should be up on that site a while before it is released. Theoretically.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 12 March, 2012, 05:17:27 PM
I just got the latest odds from BetDredd and a June Trailer is now at evens.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 12 March, 2012, 05:35:46 PM
I've bet my arse on a Kapow debut.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 13 March, 2012, 12:45:56 PM

...and wait and wait and wait...

Yes Kapow gives them a few months to then atom tan the media with DREDD related advertising. Go get 'em Production team!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 13 March, 2012, 05:52:20 PM
It would give them shed loads of free exposure with all the movie/geek media that will be reporting on it too.
Seems like a no brainer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 March, 2012, 06:01:07 PM
Heard today that apparently it's finished and everyone's really happy with it..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 13 March, 2012, 06:08:38 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 March, 2012, 06:01:07 PM
Heard today that apparently it's finished and everyone's really happy with it..

And.....................................please don't make me beg. :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 13 March, 2012, 06:15:39 PM
Excellent news.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 13 March, 2012, 07:06:35 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 March, 2012, 06:01:07 PM
Heard today that apparently it's finished and everyone's really happy with it..

Well, is there any chance of someone passing a little bit of that happiness onto us? ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Toni Scandella on 13 March, 2012, 07:17:13 PM
Surely someone should leak the entire movie on here for a day or two?  Just so we have a taster?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 March, 2012, 07:21:01 PM
Quote from: Toni Scandella on 13 March, 2012, 07:17:13 PM
Surely someone should leak the entire movie on here for a day or two?  Just so we have a taster?

Why?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 13 March, 2012, 07:39:03 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 March, 2012, 06:01:07 PM
Heard today that apparently it's finished and everyone's really happy with it..

'Show-me -the -money!' :D

Hope. I'm beginning to hope again which is always dangerous. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 13 March, 2012, 08:33:42 PM
Thats more postive feedback from our two main men in the know, . . . it makes the remaining months wait easier!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 13 March, 2012, 10:20:30 PM
It seems the early 2012 spring release that they originally went for was realistic.
That's a long 5-6 months to sit on it, hope they secure it in a big safe and make sure that any copy doesn't get leaked out.
Thought they would have used the extra time to work on it for sometime more.
But anyway good news with the feedback.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 13 March, 2012, 10:31:57 PM
You do all realise that the vast majority of cinemagoers simply turn up on Friday night and see whatever's starting in the next thirty minutes which they can convince their bird/bloke/significant other to go to? The decision may well be informed by a half-remembered trailer from a week or two previously but the deciding factor is just as likely to be whether it was a romcom or a shooty thing they went to last time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 March, 2012, 10:41:40 PM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 13 March, 2012, 10:20:30 PM
Thought they would have used the extra time to work on it for sometime more.
But anyway good news with the feedback.


That would cost more money though. With films you can fiddle around forever as long as you have the time... and money.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MattJW on 13 March, 2012, 10:59:10 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 March, 2012, 06:01:07 PM
Heard today that apparently it's finished and everyone's really happy with it..

The film itself or just the trailer, mate?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 March, 2012, 11:00:58 PM
Da film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 14 March, 2012, 03:11:27 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 March, 2012, 10:41:40 PM
With films you can fiddle around forever as long as you have the time... and money.

We're looking at YOU, Mr Luca$...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 14 March, 2012, 10:42:37 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 13 March, 2012, 06:08:38 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 March, 2012, 06:01:07 PM
Heard today that apparently it's finished and everyone's really happy with it..

And.....................................please don't make me beg. :-[

That's all I know.. I'm as much in the loop as you guys are now..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 14 March, 2012, 11:27:40 AM
Cheers for all your insights so far it has made the wait more interesting and bearable.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 14 March, 2012, 11:30:50 AM
Yeah, it's nice to know that the film is all done and dusted, everyone who's seen it is happy with it, and we can all go home now and wait until June for the trailer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 March, 2012, 01:59:14 PM
Good to hear. I was also heartened to see that Matt Smith said he thought it was going to be 'really good' in an interview. Up until now he'd appeared slightly cagey in interviews I'd read - only saying that it was dark and violent when asked his thoughts on it.

I've been bigging up/defending this film to friends for a long time now, saying give it a chance, there's some serious talent involved, it's going to surprise people etc etc in the face of some pretty negative buzz. Hope it doesn't let me down.

Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 14 March, 2012, 02:05:36 PM
We are mere fans fonky, . . . and as seen thus far have had no special privilege to this project (bar the excellent Pegg and Urban short). Some of our learned members on the forum have clarified this so we are going to have to sit it out till autumn :-/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 March, 2012, 02:13:39 PM
It's probably worth noting that it's commonplace for films to sit there for months before they're released, in order to ensure the best possible chance of success. Six months or so won't make any odds.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 March, 2012, 02:18:57 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 14 March, 2012, 02:05:36 PM
We are mere fans fonky, . . . and as seen thus far have had no special privilege to this project


Nor should being a 'fan' be seen as a right to entitlement. They really can't and shouldn't be expected to please everyone.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 March, 2012, 02:34:19 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 14 March, 2012, 02:13:39 PM
It's probably worth noting that it's commonplace for films to sit there for months before they're released, in order to ensure the best possible chance of success. Six months or so won't make any odds.


It's worse when films are rushed into production to meet release dates which accounts for the mediocre quality of some of the Marvel films, the Iron Man films especially, which had films posters and release dates before screenplays had pens on paper. Dredd is fully finished in good time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 14 March, 2012, 04:27:16 PM
I was speaking in an ironic tone that is hard to convey on an internet forum.

Myself, I'm glad that everyone who has seen it is pleased with the end results. If we do not mention another word on the subject or see another sneak preview of a bit of it until the trailer in June or September I'm more than happy to let sleeping dogs lie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Toni Scandella on 14 March, 2012, 05:50:01 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 13 March, 2012, 07:21:01 PM
Quote from: Toni Scandella on 13 March, 2012, 07:17:13 PM
Surely someone should leak the entire movie on here for a day or two?  Just so we have a taster?

Why?

I was being silly :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 14 March, 2012, 07:33:11 PM
There is however a chance that this may be leaked prior to release. The piratebay seems to acquire a lot of torrents that way, how and who does it is beyond me. Some say (musings on torrent sites) companies deliberately put a R5 realease (is a copy of a movie made with a telecine machine from an analog source and is typically of a lower quality than other region releases) out to boost potential box office sales.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 14 March, 2012, 07:35:33 PM
2000ad just posted on FB about a major announcement this Friday,wonder if its film related?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 14 March, 2012, 08:21:36 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 14 March, 2012, 07:35:33 PM
2000ad just posted on FB about a major announcement this Friday,wonder if its film related?

Been tweeted too..stand by your beds Earthlets!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 14 March, 2012, 08:32:25 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 14 March, 2012, 08:21:36 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 14 March, 2012, 07:35:33 PM
2000ad just posted on FB about a major announcement this Friday,wonder if its film related?

Been tweeted too..stand by your beds Earthlets!

Major ? Ooooh lets hope so!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: klute on 14 March, 2012, 08:39:43 PM
Fingers crossed
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 14 March, 2012, 09:03:42 PM
http://thefindmag.com/?p=16873 (http://thefindmag.com/?p=16873) Wonder if any of these tracks will be suitable to use in the film.


Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 14 March, 2012, 07:35:33 PM
2000ad just posted on FB about a major announcement this Friday,wonder if its film related?

Hmmm....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 14 March, 2012, 10:09:01 PM
..cheers...

Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 14 March, 2012, 07:33:11 PM
There is however a chance that this may be leaked prior to release. The piratebay seems to acquire a lot of torrents that way, how and who does it is beyond me. Some say (musings on torrent sites) companies deliberately put a R5 realease (is a copy of a movie made with a telecine machine from an analog source and is typically of a lower quality than other region releases) out to boost potential box office sales.


It's probably more by accident than design that these things are "leaked", shall we say.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 15 March, 2012, 12:40:51 AM
Sit back and relax till June/July for the trailer knowing that we won't be shamed.I put word out to the brothers who attended the 95 mess with me when we were teens,also made this my one movie to watch for 2012 with my friends while they went for the obvious alien and prequel and batman final act.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Electromud on 15 March, 2012, 06:17:57 AM
Please oh please oh please let it be the teaser.....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 March, 2012, 09:03:05 AM
I'm not sure 2000AD would be breaking the news about a film teaser since they aren't involved with the marketing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 March, 2012, 09:06:08 AM
Yeah, I think it's something else...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 March, 2012, 09:19:38 AM

New game app?

New comic?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 March, 2012, 09:42:36 AM
It would be interesting if a Dredd trailer is attached to the Hunger Games release next week as it's all ready sold out with presales while more after midnight screenings are being scheduled but I don't really see it happening.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 March, 2012, 01:26:40 PM
Dunno about that.. Apparently Hunger games has a 12A rating, and generally they screen appropriate trailers?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 March, 2012, 01:59:26 PM
How does it usually work?

Would they even trail an 18-rated film in a 12A over here? Normally it's all trailers are suitable for this presentation, but 12A seems such a fuzzy rating, I guess they could trail a 15-rated film, in a 12A rated trailer...

Maybe you're allowed to trail a certificate above, as along as the trailer's the same cert as the feature?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 15 March, 2012, 02:00:30 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 15 March, 2012, 01:26:40 PM
Dunno about that.. Apparently Hunger games has a 12A rating, and generally they screen appropriate trailers?

I don't think it was so unsual, say, back in the '80s. I remember THE TERMINATOR being trailed before GHOSTBUSTERS with something along the lines of 'This is a PG trailer for an 18 film'.

These days, however (in the UK, at least), it's rare. That's assuming I'm not misremembering my being surprised by a coupla things being trailed prior to the film I was there to watch.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 March, 2012, 02:05:41 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 15 March, 2012, 01:26:40 PM
Dunno about that.. Apparently Hunger games has a 12A rating, and generally they screen appropriate trailers?

They'll issue a violence lite version. You know the sort lots of glimpses of Action like in the Trailer for Priest or Drive etc.

Any way I doubt their going to release a Trailer on Friday BUT-you never know.

A Film about Teenagers killing one anotherThe Hunger Games might have a promo for DREDD a Film about Future Law enforcer killing teenagers and anyone else!

Anti Youth sadism rocks Cinema!



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 March, 2012, 02:15:39 PM
Yeah, I'm sure they'll have a blood-free version and a red-band, like the Rambo trailers... was just wondering if there was any regulations these days on what is shown with what films.

Cheers
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 15 March, 2012, 02:22:16 PM
They tend to show trailers for films which have a similar rating to the one you've gone to see. There'd be no point putting a kid friendly trailer on of something that the majority of the audience aren't going to be able to see anyway. They'll try to target a film which would pull in a similar audience.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 March, 2012, 02:39:24 PM
Yeah, my point is - I can't remember if there have been 18-rated films trailed in a 12A or not. My instinct was that it had to be at least a 15 to trail an 18 film.

But we don't know for sure whether Dredd is going to be an 18 or may scrape a 15.

I guess we'll find out soon enough.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 15 March, 2012, 06:25:01 PM
Steve McQueen's 18 rated film on sex addiction had a 12a trailer and I'm positive I watched this before a 12a rated film-may of been Another Earth.

Also Hunger Games and Dredd are of a similar genre, so it would not be improbable to see a trailer before Hunger Games.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 March, 2012, 07:41:34 PM
Cheers,

must be a different convention for more indie films, than the mainstream...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 15 March, 2012, 07:57:44 PM
The BBFC have not yet rated ANYTHING called 'Dredd'- for film or 'video'- according to their very up-to-the-minute website. Although on Tuesday they DID rate 'Shadow Dancer', which is not due until the 6th September- so these things are not impossible.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 March, 2012, 08:10:34 PM
They can still release teaser trailers for 'not yet rated' films.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 March, 2012, 08:13:42 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 March, 2012, 08:10:34 PM
They can still release teaser trailers for 'not yet rated' films.

Correct.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Toni Scandella on 16 March, 2012, 02:03:10 PM
Not sure why they would put out teasers for a film that's not due till September out now - unless they had a fortune in thier promotional budget I'd imaging they'd wait till late July at the very least for adverts they have to pay money out to show.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 16 March, 2012, 02:08:24 PM
Lets hoping it will be so good that it will go viral fo rmonths on end and become a mahoosive interweb phenonomenenenenen. (Heres hoping).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 March, 2012, 02:34:24 PM
Quote from: Toni Scandella on 16 March, 2012, 02:03:10 PM
Not sure why they would put out teasers for a film that's not due till September out now - unless they had a fortune in thier promotional budget I'd imaging they'd wait till late July at the very least for adverts they have to pay money out to show.


I think that's up to Lionsgate's discretion now, not strictly part of the DNA coffers, and if Lionsgate wanted to trail their later films along with their current releases, they could do it, it's why they secured the rights. Kapow 2012 scheduled in May is the next real stop anyway for anything substantial.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 March, 2012, 04:35:45 PM
Liongate got a film out in few weeks, and reviews looks positives, Cabin in the Woods. It's violent likeable so trailer of Dredd could be with it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 16 March, 2012, 05:13:55 PM
From Facebook:"Look to the west, Earthlets. A new dawn is rising in the land of opportunity. What will the day bring?"

Are we to surmise from that cryptic post that we are getting a trailer, but we have a to wait a few hours for the Yanks to wake up properly?? :-\ :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 16 March, 2012, 05:18:06 PM
US releases of more collections, I'd bet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: weehawk on 16 March, 2012, 05:22:19 PM
Quote from: Toni Scandella on 16 March, 2012, 02:03:10 PM
Not sure why they would put out teasers for a film that's not due till September out now - unless they had a fortune in thier promotional budget I'd imaging they'd wait till late July at the very least for adverts they have to pay money out to show.

It wouldn't be out of the question, really. Machete's first trailer debuted in March 2010, and the film opened on September 2010.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 16 March, 2012, 06:43:45 PM
Although there's already been a German Blu-ray of the 1995 film, it's just been announced that a Region 1 release is planned for the autumn.

http://www.masslive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2012/03/walt_disney_studios_to_expand.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 March, 2012, 06:48:24 PM
Predictable:


In the fall, a perfect mix of feel-good films, anniversary releases and nostalgic favorites will debut,including "Adventures in Babysitting," "Grosse Pointe Blank," "Romy and Michele's High "School Reunion," "The Rescuers," "High Fidelity," "Ed Wood," "Judge Dredd,"


Fuck you Walt.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 16 March, 2012, 08:14:17 PM
Nice one Joe  :D. Would his frozen head be offended by this remark I wonder?  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 16 March, 2012, 08:25:19 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 March, 2012, 06:48:24 PM
Fuck you Walt.

Like it or not at this point Judge Dredd '95 is considered a cult classic to a lot of people.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 16 March, 2012, 08:27:17 PM
Also its a nice cash in.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 16 March, 2012, 08:28:00 PM
"Yes, that's the big one - IDW are producing a BRAND NEW Judge Dredd monthly series!!" ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 March, 2012, 08:29:32 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 16 March, 2012, 08:25:19 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 March, 2012, 06:48:24 PM
Fuck you Walt.

Like it or not at this point Judge Dredd '95 is considered a cult classic to a lot of people.


Scientology's a cult too but classic is going too far.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: trapperconnor on 16 March, 2012, 11:24:38 PM
Sorry, did anybody notice this on Youtube, its actual footage from the movie, I kid you not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=KdWoJgDk60Y&feature=endscreen
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 March, 2012, 11:29:09 PM
Quote from: trapperconnor on 16 March, 2012, 11:24:38 PM
Sorry, did anybody notice this on Youtube, its actual footage from the movie, I kid you not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=KdWoJgDk60Y&feature=endscreen

Nothing new, it was on that guy FX showreel ages ago before it deleted, nice to see it again.

Oh Scojo still there on the YouTube comments!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 March, 2012, 12:36:52 AM
Is 'He' that tubeman character? I doubt the twat's even been to the Cape, let alone identify a random street (which may have actually been Joburg..)..

What a cock.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 March, 2012, 12:44:57 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 March, 2012, 12:36:52 AM
Is 'He' that tubeman character? I doubt the twat's even been to the Cape, let alone identify a random street (which may have actually been Joburg..)..

What a cock.

Yes, post same crap as in other forums.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 17 March, 2012, 07:54:37 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 March, 2012, 08:10:34 PM
They can still release teaser trailers for 'not yet rated' films.

Like the just-released Prometheus trailer, great big 'Not Yet Rated' at the end, gives some hope for a Dredd one very soon...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 17 March, 2012, 12:43:25 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 16 March, 2012, 05:13:55 PM
From Facebook:"Look to the west, Earthlets. A new dawn is rising in the land of opportunity. What will the day bring?"

Are we to surmise from that cryptic post that we are getting a trailer, but we have a to wait a few hours for the Yanks to wake up properly?? :-\ :lol:

Very cryptic - it must mean Gandalf is returning. :lol:



Really though ,does anyone know what the news is?



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 March, 2012, 12:46:35 PM
Where the fuck've you been?


http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,35620.0/topicseen.html



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 17 March, 2012, 02:09:07 PM
Ahhh.Sorry I thought it was film related.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 17 March, 2012, 03:40:09 PM
Sherman you dont need to apologise fella. Not everyone spends their time 24/7 on here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 March, 2012, 01:48:11 PM

Just 6 months to go  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: weehawk on 20 March, 2012, 10:04:53 PM

I recently saw the trailer for Lockout. I wonder if that will be more or less the feel of Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 March, 2012, 11:02:09 PM
Quote from: weehawk on 20 March, 2012, 10:04:53 PM

I recently saw the trailer for Lockout. I wonder if that will be more or less the feel of Dredd.



Maybe, but I don't think it will look particularly like that.


Here's a few nice snaps of Anthony Dod Mantle shooting Dredd to tide us over:

(http://multimedia.pol.dk/archive/00530/filmAnthony02_24-03_530454a.jpg)



and the first photo of the director Pete Travis on-set:




(http://multimedia.pol.dk/archive/00530/filmAnthony01_24-03_530453a.jpg)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 20 March, 2012, 11:29:00 PM
And it was a barren and arid time...so much so that a plague of locusts did fly devouring the smallest morsels in their path!

An Ode to waiting for more Dredd news.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge macbrayne on 21 March, 2012, 03:46:03 AM
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DPtjafkaxM04%26feature%3Dshare&h=zAQHrVdTIAQHugidz0Yny2heW3jP56RQHhcNktFBeTSe5Gg
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 21 March, 2012, 03:50:36 AM
A wank, I think.  But is that Karl Urban speaking or Toby Longworth?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 21 March, 2012, 09:31:53 PM
CyberPunk shades or what.

Is that one of the 3D cameras?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 March, 2012, 09:36:05 PM
3D shades


2 RED cameras in 3D configuration.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 21 March, 2012, 10:12:22 PM
I'm reminded of this...

(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af68/strontium71/willy.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 22 March, 2012, 01:02:23 AM
So how does it all feel? This strangely adventurous style of promotion? I'm kind of uncomfortable with the way a soundtrack has ushered in a raised bar of promotional items towards the ensuing film. It could, in a very narrow way, be cause for embarrassment on the whole,if the film itself is unpalatable in a finite respect. But then there is the IDW American audience gamble that may suffer from a low pay off too. Saying that, it is very bold and all patrons are quietly confident of the film.

As Film 2012 on the bbc showed it's love for The Raid as part of blockbuster season, it occurred to me the eventuality of this could leave Dredd looking like a similar plot over-exposing the storyline to viewers in a negative equity light.

It's all making me quite nervous. Anyone want to help me rationalise these fears?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 22 March, 2012, 01:20:47 AM
Quote from: George Dread on 22 March, 2012, 01:02:23 AM
It's all making me quite nervous. Anyone want to help me rationalise these fears?
Stop smoking so much dope on a school night?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 March, 2012, 01:21:12 AM
Quote from: George Dread on 22 March, 2012, 01:02:23 AM
So how does it all feel? This strangely adventurous style of promotion? I'm kind of uncomfortable with the way a soundtrack has ushered in a raised bar of promotional items towards the ensuing film.



There hasn't been any film promotion material yet and these other peripheral products are all separate entities. There's the book publishing which will be a slightly expanded version of the norm. The Drokk album which is akin to a fan project and not connected with the film. These things could happen without the dawning of a new Dredd film, in any year, and often has in 2000AD's history.


Whatever way the chips fall with Dredd, whether it's a brilliant, ok or shite film, the fall-out won't be as severe as what happened in '95, which was a clusterfuck of bad idea after bad idea, compounded and rammed up Tharg's green-star. The comic will endure as it's been running on a full cylinder for years now, it wasn't in '95 and there was a lot more at stake and not just a tone of money but a bad management structure waitng to liquidate the whole shebang on a whim.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 22 March, 2012, 01:48:09 AM
Quote from: The Cosh on 22 March, 2012, 01:20:47 AM
Quote from: George Dread on 22 March, 2012, 01:02:23 AM
It's all making me quite nervous. Anyone want to help me rationalise these fears?
Stop smoking so much dope on a school night?

Do you mean Stop Worrying the small stuff?


QuoteThere hasn't been any film promotion material yet and these other peripheral products are all separate entities.

They still seem to be exciting interest around the buzz of the film as it is now though. But you're right, and have put me at ease with;

QuoteThere's the book publishing which will be a slightly expanded version of the norm. The Drokk album which is akin to a fan project and not connected with the film. These things could happen without the dawning of a new Dredd film, in any year, and often has in 2000AD's history.


Whatever way the chips fall with Dredd, whether it's a brilliant, ok or shite film, the fall-out won't be as severe as what happened in '95, which was a clusterfuck of bad idea after bad idea, compounded and rammed up Tharg's green-star. The comic will endure as it's been running on a full cylinder for years now, it wasn't in '95 and there was a lot more at stake and not just a tone of money but a bad management structure waitng to liquidate the whole shebang on a whim.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 22 March, 2012, 04:35:02 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 March, 2012, 11:02:09 PM
Here's a few nice snaps of Anthony Dod Mantle shooting Dredd to tide us over

Great find, where'd you get those pics Joe...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 23 March, 2012, 12:56:47 PM
The Hunger Games comes out today.

Don't think there will be anything DREDD related but Lionsgate is distributing both Films.

The reviews seem very positive for Hunger Games unlike John Carter which is receiving a critical slaying.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 March, 2012, 01:18:45 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 23 March, 2012, 12:56:47 PM
The Hunger Games comes out today.

Don't think there will be anything DREDD related but Lionsgate is distributing both Films.

The reviews seem very positive for Hunger Games unlike John Carter which is receiving a critical slaying.



Also Cabin in the Woods which is out in few weeks...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Waltev on 27 March, 2012, 06:46:46 AM
Wouldn't want to raise any false hopes / conspiracy theories, but I just received a Google alert last night that pointed to Youtube with a link that said "Dredd movie trailer 2012 - YouTube".

I treated this as just another 1995 disaster re-edit by a fan (or he, who shall not be named) but surprise, surprise - when I clicked the link I was presented with the page that said the account had been terminated (see attachment).

So, here goes what's usually called "jumping to conclusions":

1. There IS a trailer
2. Somebody in the know has nicked it and tried to leak it on YouTube
3. ... but wasn't counting on the fact that Lionsgate obviously also know how to use Google Alert...  :lol:


Just a theory guys, but one that - yet again - gives me ungrounded hope  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 27 March, 2012, 07:08:45 AM
When you google it, the description is 'fan edit' - so don't get your hopes up, sounds like someone has cobbled together various clips and pics.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Waltev on 27 March, 2012, 07:36:51 AM
Quote from: Angry Vince on 27 March, 2012, 07:08:45 AM
When you google it, the description is 'fan edit' - so don't get your hopes up, sounds like someone has cobbled together various clips and pics.


Damn!!!

Serves me right... That's what I get for letting a glimmer of hope to emerge.

Well, off to the Valley of Despair again, then...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 27 March, 2012, 10:50:00 AM
'S alright. Everyone here is in a constant state of nervous anticipation waiting for some tiny snippet of information. On the day the real trailer gets released the UK will be under a white out as the combined fannage* of Dredd blow their loads...




*It's new word, just made up for the occasion. If you too would like words made up for your special occasion we have the following custom made words available for sale now:
-grimpness
-embuggary
-squelchaphilia
-enflagulate**


** may be shop soiled.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 27 March, 2012, 10:32:52 PM
I noticed someone has put a 12-part 'Dredd' 2012 on youtube which consists of stills of other films. Not sure what the point of someone going to that effort is... I'd guessed they're trying to get some kind of revenue, by posting links to the full film, which they don't have either.

It's a baffling business model.

Similarly there was a fake torrent which turned out to be some piece of crap Syfy film...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 28 March, 2012, 12:22:49 AM
Teach you to look for one... lol
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 March, 2012, 12:26:28 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 27 March, 2012, 10:32:52 PM
Similarly there was a fake torrent which turned out to be some piece of crap Syfy film...


Was Sylvester Stallone in it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 28 March, 2012, 12:26:57 AM
Slyfy?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 28 March, 2012, 04:23:23 AM
Mockbuster like Transmorfers? Drudge Jedd?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 28 March, 2012, 11:41:02 AM
Wasn't looking for it, but was searching twitter for Dredd mentions and it cropped up.

Can't remember who was in it, but it was something along the lines of mega shark...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 28 March, 2012, 11:53:18 AM
This I'll have to see! A mockbuster of Dredd 2012 would make Dredd 1995 look like Citizen Kane.
Or have I got that the wrong way around?

Either way, could be good for a larf.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 28 March, 2012, 07:54:18 PM
Probably will call the mock up Dread the future clone cop.






V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 28 March, 2012, 09:56:25 PM
l've never seen a thread dry up as quickly.  We have had energetic discussion for over a year and now with five months to go we've run out of steam ( there's nothing out there not even a decent poster!? ). l think the film people should put the cards on the table now and start promoting the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 March, 2012, 09:57:31 PM
Let us to having break and enjoy the sunny! we all need energies for lots of talks when any trailers came up...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 March, 2012, 10:05:23 PM
Nothing will happen till after the Raid is has left the building so-to-speak. Wouldn't be good to advertise two films with the same plot at the same time. Kapow in May is the next stop I'd say
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 March, 2012, 10:08:56 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 March, 2012, 10:05:23 PM
Nothing will happen till after the Raid is has left the building so-to-speak. Wouldn't be good to advertise two films with the same plot at the same time. Kapow in May is the next stop I'd say

I agree, some workmates at office was mentioned that the Raid looks good and will see it at cinema, good idea if Dredd trailers not out soon. May is good I thought.

As Joe Soap was says about Total Recall, the trailer just out, and the poster too, but it not looks official does it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 28 March, 2012, 10:54:20 PM
I was talking films with a friend last night, and he remarked that Dredd seems to have disappeared of the face of the earth - no coverage in magazines, no trailer etc - and was curious if it was still scheduled for release this year, indeed if it was still even being released at all. Had to give him the old assurances!

I'm gonna look a right mug if it turns out crap!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 March, 2012, 11:16:32 PM
We were gonna blame it in you anyway. Thanks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 March, 2012, 11:35:26 PM
I have bad feeling Dredd is going to be seen as a rip off of the Raid by most movie goers. Add in the people who just love complaining about hollywood remaking everything and finally the original Judge Dredd and that's a pretty steep hill to climb.

And they STILL aren't even advertising it yet!!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 28 March, 2012, 11:44:06 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 March, 2012, 11:16:32 PM
We were gonna blame it in you anyway. Thanks.

Ok, but that means I get to take the credit if it turns out to be good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 March, 2012, 12:17:17 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 March, 2012, 11:35:26 PM
I have bad feeling Dredd is going to be seen as a rip off of the Raid by most movie goers. Add in the people who just love complaining about hollywood remaking everything and finally the original Judge Dredd and that's a pretty steep hill to climb.

And they STILL aren't even advertising it yet!!


Depends how many people see the Raid. It's a fairly small R-rated film -$1 million as opposed to Dredd's $35 million- and it opened last week in a measly 14 US theatres so it's not a wide release by any stretch of the imagination. Most movie-goers won't even see it there. It has a staggered release through Europe in the next few months and will do well, but it'll make its money on DVD.

Although it may have audience overlap with Dredd, they each have a different pull.



Quote from: radiator on 28 March, 2012, 11:44:06 PM

Ok, but that means I get to take the credit if it turns out to be good.



Only if you sign my helmet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 29 March, 2012, 08:42:41 AM
Isn't The Raid more of a martial arts film?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 March, 2012, 09:00:31 AM
Yep.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 29 March, 2012, 10:14:29 AM
Quote from: radiator on 29 March, 2012, 08:42:41 AM
Isn't The Raid more of a martial arts film?

And it's a foreign language film which will limit its appeal, though I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 29 March, 2012, 11:10:49 AM
Quote from: dracula1 on 28 March, 2012, 09:56:25 PM
l've never seen a thread dry up as quickly.  We have had energetic discussion for over a year and now with five months to go we've run out of steam ( there's nothing out there not even a decent poster!? ). l think the film people should put the cards on the table now and start promoting the film.

If it wasn't for our not-so-secret undercover agent and our Internet Ace Detective (Michael and Joe Soap respectively) this thread would be half it's length such has been the dearth of info on this film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 29 March, 2012, 12:29:08 PM
I still reckon May/June before we see anything.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 30 March, 2012, 12:04:39 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if a trailer was released near the end of April. That's when Jason Statham's movie SAFE comes out in the US. It's an IM GLOBAL film, just like DREDD.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Onlyverysmall on 30 March, 2012, 12:34:26 AM
I reckon the film's splurge should be: "Do you remember Robocop? Well, they ripped us off, and they admitted it; do you remember 1995s Judge Dredd? Well it was better than Batman Forever yes it was. Watch this."
If that doesn't work I'll eat my penis.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 March, 2012, 01:35:06 PM
Hold the press!!! I could have a scoop and soon!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 March, 2012, 01:42:28 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 March, 2012, 01:35:06 PM
Hold the press!!! I could have a scoop and soon!

What?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 March, 2012, 01:43:19 PM
Just getting some advice first about how best to proceed but it involves one of the actors from the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 30 March, 2012, 03:53:41 PM
Well...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 March, 2012, 03:55:55 PM

Be carefully, as it could be another false one from you-know-who, you could looks sheepish from it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 March, 2012, 05:09:18 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 30 March, 2012, 03:55:55 PM

Be carefully, as it could be another false one from you-know-who, you could looks sheepish from it?

No its the real deal, but I have left it in the capable hands of Thargs advisors as I fear the Rigellian Hotshots coming my way should I post.

So out of my hands now. (Now I look dumb for posting!). Doh!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 30 March, 2012, 06:51:23 PM
You should have just posted it. What is the worst that could have happened?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 March, 2012, 08:07:05 PM
(http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads//2012/02/dredd-gif.gif?942405)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 30 March, 2012, 08:43:23 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 30 March, 2012, 06:51:23 PM
What is the worst that could have happened?

(http://content6.flixster.com/rtactor/42/18/42180_pro.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 30 March, 2012, 09:10:19 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 March, 2012, 05:09:18 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 30 March, 2012, 03:55:55 PM
Be carefully, as it could be another false one from you-know-who, you could looks sheepish from it?
No its the real deal, but I have left it in the capable hands of Thargs advisors as I fear the Rigellian Hotshots coming my way should I post.
So out of my hands now. (Now I look dumb for posting!). Doh!

Don't feel bad Kowalsky. It's good to know that there's some more Film related info possibly heading our way.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 March, 2012, 10:21:26 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 30 March, 2012, 09:10:19 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 March, 2012, 05:09:18 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 30 March, 2012, 03:55:55 PM
Be carefully, as it could be another false one from you-know-who, you could looks sheepish from it?
No its the real deal, but I have left it in the capable hands of Thargs advisors as I fear the Rigellian Hotshots coming my way should I post.
So out of my hands now. (Now I look dumb for posting!). Doh!

Don't feel bad Kowalsky. It's good to know that there's some more Film related info possibly heading our way.

Cheers IAMTS hopefully come from the powers that be soon  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 31 March, 2012, 12:44:08 AM
I wasn't even aware of The Raid until it was mentioned here. (http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/6815/fergee.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 31 March, 2012, 12:45:06 AM
Just sayin'. (http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/6815/fergee.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 31 March, 2012, 12:59:00 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 March, 2012, 01:43:19 PM
Just getting some advice first about how best to proceed but it involves one of the actors from the film.

If it's Karl, tell him I want my PS3 games back off of his minder..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 31 March, 2012, 01:32:22 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 30 March, 2012, 03:55:55 PM
Be carefully, as it could be another false one from you-know-who, you could looks sheepish from it?

If that's a reference to me, guilty as charged, and whilst I've learned my lesson about passing on completely unsubstantiated scoops from previously-reliable sources, I nonetheless hold out that the trailer will be in the next few weeks, nothing to do with saving face on my part, I just want the damn trailer out pronto (as do we all, it's safe to say)...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 31 March, 2012, 04:30:26 PM
Here! here! Beaky.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 April, 2012, 01:26:10 AM
Leaked trailer on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSZ_fV3fmXk&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSZ_fV3fmXk&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 01 April, 2012, 01:29:24 AM
Silly world 101.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 01 April, 2012, 05:41:11 AM
*** MASSIVE NEWS UPDATE ***

The producers of Dredd have announced the sequel has been greenlit, will begin filming in South Africa in early 2014 with a budget of $65m, with a September 2015 release tentatively scheduled, and as expected, Judge Death will be the main villain, with Bruce Forsythe in advanced negotiations to don the portcullis-fronted helmet, and an all-singing-all-dancing musical number featuring a full brass band has also been confirmed for the film, more news as we get it...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: golledge100 on 01 April, 2012, 08:48:34 AM
For once I believe you Beacky. Seems entirely plausible to me ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Third Estate Ned on 01 April, 2012, 09:37:42 AM
I've only just worked out what day it is.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 01 April, 2012, 07:11:06 PM
Indeed. I was totally sucked in until the Bruce Forsythe thing. Like they could afford him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 02 April, 2012, 12:00:49 AM
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd182/trench_ant/bruciecoffin.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 02 April, 2012, 01:55:30 AM
"Niccceee to ssseee you, to ssseee you niccceee"...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 02 April, 2012, 02:01:31 AM
That is just too funny.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 02 April, 2012, 06:46:17 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Mpg9M1rVoVs/T3k72VaCC6I/AAAAAAAAB64/Jy_5OnlE0Gs/s400/bruciesdeadworld1.JPG)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 04 April, 2012, 10:36:31 PM
Check out that chin! Forget Judge Death, Brucie should play Dredd! Okay the voice might be a problem, but one that's easily solved by getting Whoopi Goldberg to redub his lines.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 04 April, 2012, 11:21:24 PM
'' Standard Execution! ''
'' ...wait - shall I go higher or lower? ''
[ ''LOWER'' ]
'' Awwww - you got Double Whammy! ''
'' But wait...you get nothing for a pair! ''
[ ''NOT IN THIS MEG'' ]
BLAAAAM!!!
'' You've been a lovely perp. Sooo much better than last weeks  ::) ''
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Onlyverysmall on 05 April, 2012, 01:03:22 AM
Darnmarr, you deserve some kind of badge, well done sir. I chuckled.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: clavell on 05 April, 2012, 11:56:41 AM
Quote from: strontium71 on 04 April, 2012, 11:21:24 PM
'' Standard Execution! ''
'' ...wait - shall I go higher or lower? ''
[ ''LOWER'' ]
'' Awwww - you got Double Whammy! ''
'' But wait...you get nothing for a pair! ''
[ ''NOT IN THIS MEG'' ]
BLAAAAM!!!
'' You've been a lovely perp. Sooo much better than last weeks  ::) ''

:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 05 April, 2012, 11:19:38 PM
Watching some Xena the other day.
He actually played 3 different roles.

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwajx1pQFD1qi5uyeo1_500.jpg)




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 April, 2012, 11:21:52 PM
Wow, he played Cal!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 05 April, 2012, 11:26:09 PM
Cringe at Cupid (Bloody Mutant)

(http://fanzone50.com/KarlUrban/Cupid_jpg/Cupid_159.jpg)




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 05 April, 2012, 11:28:35 PM
Marvel at Mael.

(http://fanzone50.com/KarlUrban/Mael_jpg/Mael_093.jpg)




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 06 April, 2012, 12:01:54 AM
I don't know which has the worst acting. Shortland Street or Xena.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 April, 2012, 12:02:25 AM
or which was gayer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 06 April, 2012, 12:58:38 PM
I think Xena's Amazonianess and kinky boots kept me straight at least (her sidekick was decent too). Not that I have a problem with Karl's antics. The whole Cupid thing is none of my business really.

That actually makes me wonder about the Meg's public indecency laws. I'm sure there must be a zillion of them. Each one harsher than the last.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 07 April, 2012, 03:34:21 PM
Why does he have a wookie on his breast plate ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 07 April, 2012, 04:46:18 PM
Because Han fired first?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 07 April, 2012, 05:18:36 PM
Kowalsky -any further news on the scoop?Please , we are clearly desperate, we're not at the bottom of the barrell, we're beyond that ,in fact we've eaten the barrell  :o :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 07 April, 2012, 05:56:15 PM
I had mine with chips.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: EddieHitler on 07 April, 2012, 07:39:47 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 09 September, 2011, 08:46:48 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2011, 05:20:33 PM
Don't you want to see how Karl's Dredd works first? I've seen it, it's not bad at all.. I too am hoping for a sequel :)

Hang on a mo I nearly missed that!

Tell us more!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: EddieHitler on 07 April, 2012, 07:42:21 PM
Can I modify my last post please as that question has already been answered I suspect....note to me......remember to check post date!![spoiler][/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 08 April, 2012, 05:37:20 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 07 April, 2012, 05:18:36 PM
Kowalsky -any further news on the scoop?Please , we are clearly desperate, we're not at the bottom of the barrell, we're beyond that ,in fact we've eaten the barrell  :o :lol:

Yeah, I second that, do tell on that scoop regarding one of the actors on Dredd - although if it's the fact that Olivia Thirlby, uh (how do I put this), bats for both teams, that's not new info dude :D...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 08 April, 2012, 09:46:10 AM
It's up!  The Dredd trailer is up on YouTube!

http://youtu.be/fTN2YWyyE_E (http://youtu.be/fTN2YWyyE_E)

Definitely the real deal.  Not any fan-made nonsense.  Looks pretty legit to me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 08 April, 2012, 09:49:27 AM
 :lol: Udder dwad.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 08 April, 2012, 10:01:50 AM
That's a moother fracker of a trailer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 April, 2012, 10:10:23 AM
I think that qualifies as trolling, but in a good 'Piratebay comment section' sort of way. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 April, 2012, 11:06:17 AM
It's too violent and the helmet's too big.

Otherwise- genius! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 08 April, 2012, 11:07:47 AM
It started off quite well actually! I can just imagine that music in the real trailer now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 08 April, 2012, 11:46:05 AM
 :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 08 April, 2012, 12:30:43 PM
'course what'll happen eventually is that someone will post the actual trailer on here , and no-one will go and look  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 08 April, 2012, 12:48:01 PM
Riiiiggghhht!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 08 April, 2012, 06:38:58 PM
   :lol: Somebody has far too much time on their hands.... Nice one :D

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 April, 2012, 10:53:03 PM

Sorry IF anyone been post this picture, I dont recall see this photo on here before...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/526433_217261605040533_124238977676130_303306_1904595547_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 April, 2012, 11:00:36 PM
We are all  aware of how dry it is on DREDD movie news on this thread at the moment.  I was watching a little known horror gem called Ghost Ship which starred none other than Karl Urban and managed to get a small fix of potential Dredd acting. I'd recommend this film as  it was an enjoyable horror romp!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 April, 2012, 11:16:46 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 08 April, 2012, 10:53:03 PM

Sorry IF anyone been post this picture, I dont recall see this photo on here before...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/526433_217261605040533_124238977676130_303306_1904595547_n.jpg)


It's from Empire mag, contents page, should be much wider though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 April, 2012, 10:07:07 AM
DREDD's got knuckledusters on his gloves for C.Q.C![er Close Quarter Combat I think they call it.]

Perhaps not but the Movie Uniform certainly is a well crafted piece of work. It looks functional like a Para Military Police uniform, Urban Combat role.

Saw 'Global Weirding' on the BBC i-Player with it's literately chilling view of the future where Frost Fairs and the Thames freezing over will properly return. How soon that is they couldn't really say but even so you'd have to be an eternal optimist not to think that something so devastating to the environment wouldn't trigger an awful lot of conflict over finite resources. Such catastrophes are unlikely to be solved by any peaceful means.

Grim.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 09 April, 2012, 10:17:57 AM
Military terms it's C.Q.B. (Close Quarter Battle).




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 09 April, 2012, 10:38:00 AM
It's called Fuk-yu up North,bit like Kung-fu but with more headbutts.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 April, 2012, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 09 April, 2012, 10:38:00 AM
It's called Fuk-yu up North,bit like Kung-fu but with more headbutts.

Aren't you all Socialist up North? Thought they we're all for Peace etc!

Or is that a southern, softie generalization? ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 09 April, 2012, 11:56:01 AM
I'm a Northen muppet but I ain't a commie. Bit fed up with the lot of them at the moment tbh....middle rightish when I took the politics test,not far off Nicolas Zarkosy  :o or so it said?

http://www.politicalcompass.org/


Still you were right about the soft sourthern shandy drinking jessies part  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 09 April, 2012, 11:57:44 AM
Bad spelling free of charge.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 April, 2012, 03:14:01 PM
Disgraceful!

I'm a leftie, Libertarian according to this test!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 09 April, 2012, 03:24:37 PM
I feel a seperate thread coming...

Being further up north, you'd be right it seems, at least for me, coming somewhere between Nelson Mandela and The Dalai Lama  :lol:

The cynic in me notes how left wing, libertarian "scores" are negative  ::) Some proper wtf questions in there too, very obviously from the US.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 09 April, 2012, 03:25:43 PM
Socialist libertarian authoritarian....bloody still hate Gordum Brown though
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 09 April, 2012, 03:36:05 PM
I'm Gandhi  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 09 April, 2012, 09:35:09 PM
I'm still a leftie (as in left of Joseph Stalin), I'm surprised I thought I'd gone more right (of Genghis Khan).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 09 April, 2012, 10:35:32 PM
I'm so far to the bottom left I'm in danger of falling off the page! Ghandi looks like a nazi compared to me, apparently.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 09 April, 2012, 11:21:06 PM
Slightly Libertarian, slightly Right. Must be getting mellow in my old age.

Mellow Vince - doesn't have the same ring to it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 09 April, 2012, 11:33:01 PM
found this dredd movie clip on  YT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtjafkaxM04
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 10 April, 2012, 01:04:25 AM
That political test is certainly an interesting little diversion, but I don't need a test to know where I fall on the socio-political spectrum; I'm an unapologetically right-wing Christian evangelical Zionist social and economic conservative with libertarian leanings (meaning I hold personal opinions about some matters but that doesn't necessarily mean I want the government to legislate/fund/insert themselves on those matters; like marriage, healthcare, the arts, etc), I feel a couple of Thomas Jefferson quotes coming on;

"That government is best which governs least"
"If it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg, what is that to me?"

Couldn't have put it better myself...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 10 April, 2012, 01:07:27 AM
2003 called and it wants its website back.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 April, 2012, 01:08:21 AM
We all have our cross I suppose.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 10 April, 2012, 02:09:24 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 10 April, 2012, 01:04:25 AM
I feel a couple of Thomas Jefferson quotes coming on;

Yes, I always find that pre-Industrial Revolution, slave-owning, dead US Presidents provide tremendous insight into the social & political issues of the 21st Century.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 10 April, 2012, 02:46:01 AM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 10 April, 2012, 01:07:27 AM
2003 called and it wants its website back.

I don't get it...

Quote from: A.Cow on 10 April, 2012, 02:09:24 AM
Yes, I always find that pre-Industrial Revolution, slave-owning, dead US Presidents provide tremendous insight into the social & political issues of the 21st Century.

It's not specific issues that I quoted Jefferson about, it was certain broadstroke truths he espoused that have relevance to this day (the dangers of a central bank, pitfalls of foreign intervention, the primacy of individual liberty, the dangers of an unelected-therefore-unaccountable judiciary acting as proxy legislators, etc) and as far as owning slaves goes, it was just the mindset back then, and the U.S. Founding Fathers had very real reservations about the issue of slavery, which is why the three-fifths clause was inserted in the Constitution, to limit the influence and over-representation of slave states in Congress relative to their population demographics... and I would take Jefferson or any of the Founders over ANY Euro-trash leader any day of the week and twice on Sundays, never has a more enlightened group of scholarly, learned, and genuinely wise men ever been involved in the founding a nation state, period!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 April, 2012, 02:50:29 AM
Sadly it all went down-hill from 1787.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 April, 2012, 07:41:36 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 April, 2012, 02:50:29 AM
Sadly it all went down-hill from 1787.

It's went down-hill when I post hot photos of Lena Headey?

Yeah I agree
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: malkymac on 10 April, 2012, 09:46:54 AM
Quote from: Zarjazzer on 09 April, 2012, 09:35:09 PM
I'm still a leftie (as in left of Joseph Stalin), I'm surprised I thought I'd gone more right (of Genghis Khan).

Ghengis Khan was actually a bit of a leftie - you did not have to pay tax if you were a doctor or a teacher was amongst other quite liberal laws that he came up with such as freedom of religious expression and you could progress in Mongol society no matter where you born born or what colour you were.

History treats him a bit unfairly I think.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JamesC on 10 April, 2012, 01:07:21 PM
Quote from: malkymac on 10 April, 2012, 09:46:54 AM
Quote from: Zarjazzer on 09 April, 2012, 09:35:09 PM
I'm still a leftie (as in left of Joseph Stalin), I'm surprised I thought I'd gone more right (of Genghis Khan).

History treats him a bit unfairly I think.

Probably coz of all those people he chopped up. :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 10 April, 2012, 03:24:18 PM
History's not too keen on Stalin either, for similar reasons.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 10 April, 2012, 05:28:32 PM
Yet history treats Stalin better than Hitler.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 10 April, 2012, 06:33:38 PM
Stalin had a better moustache.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 10 April, 2012, 07:16:15 PM
No offence intended but can you stop talking bollox on here?

I get excited when I see a bump (Ooh Matron)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 10 April, 2012, 08:45:04 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 10 April, 2012, 05:28:32 PM
Yet history treats Stalin better than Hitler.
Stalin has a higher death toll under his mantle the Hitler. Every now and then a mass grave is uncovered in the former Soviet Union, the fruits of his dictatorship.





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 April, 2012, 08:52:42 PM
Dredd has a higher death toll, East-Meg-One for starters.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 10 April, 2012, 08:59:31 PM
Dredd was a victim of circumstance and did what needed to be done.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 April, 2012, 09:03:18 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 April, 2012, 08:52:42 PM
Dredd has a higher death toll, East-Meg-One for starters.

With billion of deaths in his name? That why he is the dangerous man alive in Mega City...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 11 April, 2012, 12:51:05 AM
Quote from: Beeks on 10 April, 2012, 07:16:15 PM
No offence intended but can you stop talking bollox on here?

Speaking as someone who contributed more than his fair share of "bollox" here (I'll admit it), I agree with Beeks on this one, but it's the lack of any new Dredd news and/or a trailer that's driving us all a bit mad at the mo'...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 April, 2012, 01:11:38 AM
Quote from: vzzbux on 10 April, 2012, 08:59:31 PM
Dredd was a victim of circumstance and did what needed to be done.


Still a killer no matter how you swing it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 11 April, 2012, 02:04:13 AM
Joe or CraveNoir dudes, any idea what the countdown clock that pops up when you access the 2000 AD Online site is, anything to do with Dredd, or is it a launch for the recently-agreed U.S. deal...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 11 April, 2012, 02:07:51 AM
Scrub that last question, it clearly isn't Dredd-related, never mind...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 11 April, 2012, 03:03:51 AM
I think we'll know when the publicity for the film gets into full swing...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 11 April, 2012, 03:04:40 AM
As in I don't think it'll be as subtle as the 'They are coming' propoganda...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 11 April, 2012, 04:19:06 AM
Kinda cool the production gave something back to the place it was filmed...

http://www.bizcommunity.com/Article/196/98/73524.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 12 April, 2012, 12:50:56 AM
Going back a bit in the discussion, The Raid: Redemption seems to be doing much bigger box office than anyone here credited.

It's reached number 14 in the US weekend box office takings, giving with $1.4M so far, and (according to CHUD.com) will be opening in 500 extra movie theatres, giving it a "wide" release.  That's not bad for a $1M foreign language film in the Good Ol' US of StatesTM.  Glancing at Box Office Mojo, only 5% of the top 100 foreign language movies play >500 US theatres, and nearly all made $10M+.

Looks all the more likely that comparisons will be made when Dredd finally arrives...


By the way, can anybody hazard a guess whether Liongate are likely to make the (poor) decision to screen in 3D only (like John Carter did in so many places)?  That could damage box office further.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 April, 2012, 01:02:05 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 12 April, 2012, 12:50:56 AM
By the way, can anybody hazard a guess whether Liongate are likely to make the (poor) decision to screen in 3D only (like John Carter did in so many places)?  That could damage box office further.



Well Lionsgate are only handling the US, Entertainment Film are doing it for the UK and they have a good rep.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 12 April, 2012, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 12 April, 2012, 12:50:56 AM

Looks all the more likely that comparisons will be made when Dredd finally arrives...


Why, because it's set in a certain setting with a certain group of people against another group? I'm trying not to be spoilt for either so haven't read any in-depth reviews, but I keep hearing people saying a comparison is inevitable. Anyone seen it and can say, without spoiling too much, if there are more reasons?

Cuz if that's it, an action film with a similar setting to other action films, then how is that so unusual or threatening to Dredd?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 April, 2012, 11:13:25 AM
THE RAID seems to have been very well received with good reviews. But DREDD isn't released for another 5 months or so and THE RAID appears to be very Martial Arts orientated type of pic, Bruce Lee with machine guns.

DREDD should have enough that's different about it, a Futuristic Action thriller rather than a contemporary Cops vs Robbers story to distinguish it on it's own.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 12 April, 2012, 12:16:22 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 12 April, 2012, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 12 April, 2012, 12:50:56 AM

Looks all the more likely that comparisons will be made when Dredd finally arrives...


Why, because it's set in a certain setting with a certain group of people against another group? I'm trying not to be spoilt for either so haven't read any in-depth reviews, but I keep hearing people saying a comparison is inevitable. Anyone seen it and can say, without spoiling too much, if there are more reasons?

Cuz if that's it, an action film with a similar setting to other action films, then how is that so unusual or threatening to Dredd?

It depends how spoilery you consider certain information. I'll put it in 'spoilers' just to be safe.

[spoiler]Both films are about law enforcers fighting their way through a load of gangsters, advancing up the levels of a city block towards a confrontation with the gang boss.[/spoiler]

That's in very broad terms.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 April, 2012, 12:57:52 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 12 April, 2012, 12:16:22 PM


[spoiler]Both films are about law enforcers fighting their way through a load of gangsters, advancing up the levels of a city block towards a confrontation with the gang boss.[/spoiler]

That's in very broad terms.


It's closer than that: [spoiler]both films are about elite law enforcers ascending a city block that contains a drug factory and a drug Baron that must be taken down.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 12 April, 2012, 08:54:45 PM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 10 April, 2012, 01:04:25 AM
I'm an unapologetically right-wing Christian evangelical Zionist social and economic conservative with libertarian leanings

aaaaand ... ignored
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 April, 2012, 10:04:03 PM
A right-wing christian, there's enough contradiction there without the added criteria.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 13 April, 2012, 01:00:47 AM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 12 April, 2012, 08:54:45 PM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 10 April, 2012, 01:04:25 AM
I'm an unapologetically right-wing Christian evangelical Zionist social and economic conservative with libertarian leanings
aaaaand ... ignored

It wasn't ignored as there were some comments after I posted it, and even if it was, why are you commenting on it now, get a life dude ::)...

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 April, 2012, 10:04:03 PM
A right-wing christian, there's enough contradiction there without the added criteria.

I'd love to comment further on that somewhat ill-informed statement, Joe dude, but as someone RIGHTLY pointed out a few posts back, this ain't the Political thread, but of course, never mind the fact I didn't bring up the whole socio-political orientation on this thread but merely commented on it (as did others), if you're a Christian and/or conservative in your opinions, then you're fair game on here it would seem (so much for liberal 'tolerance' - now THERE'S a contradiction if ever there were one!), so drop your anti-Christian bigotry,  your self-righteous indignation, not to mention your snarky everyone's-wrong-but-me attitude, and we'll get on just fine dude, sorry to sound confrontational, but I've had enough of your attitude and am calling you on it, and if you're offended, well  :'(...

... now back to Dredd, if you don't mind...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 13 April, 2012, 01:05:39 AM
Did you feel a great disturbance in the force when Thomas Kinkade's liver gave out?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 April, 2012, 01:18:31 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 13 April, 2012, 01:00:47 AM
and if you're offended, well  :'(...


I don't get offended, it's too whiney. I never said I was liberal, if you want you could point out where I said that.

You posted: "I'm an unapologetically right-wing Christian evangelical Zionist social and economic conservative with libertarian leanings" and if that's not a statement of one's political dick I don't know what is. I tolerate the fact you can post that statement so maybe, if you feel like it, you could tolerate my opinion that I find it a mass of contradictions. Simple as. No offence but take it on the chin.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 13 April, 2012, 02:17:47 AM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 13 April, 2012, 01:05:39 AM
Did you feel a great disturbance in the force when Thomas Kinkade's liver gave out?

I had never even heard of that gentleman until you mentioned him here, so I'm not sure what you're getting at...

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 April, 2012, 01:18:31 AM
I don't get offended, it's too whiney. I never said I was liberal, if you want you could point out where I said that.
You posted: "I'm an unapologetically right-wing Christian evangelical Zionist social and economic conservative with libertarian leanings" and if that's not a statement of one's political dick I don't know what is. I tolerate the fact you can post that statement so maybe, if you feel like it, you could tolerate my opinion that I find it a mass of contradictions. Simple as. No offence but take it on the chin.

I never stated you WERE a liberal, Joe dude, I merely stated it's only after I happen to express my own personal socio-religio-political viewpoints on this thread and others, that the derogatory and derisory comments start flying, and as far as my "...unapologetically..." post goes, I was only stating my own personal viewpoint in the same way others had before me, I more than tolerate dissenting opinions, I actively encourage them, the more the merrier, it's the seemingly inbuilt condescension and knee-jerk visceral reaction from some that occurs once you actually express said views that I was talking about, but whatever...

I'm done with this subject now, back to Dredd... now would be a very good time for the trailer, methinks!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: clavell on 13 April, 2012, 02:21:20 AM
Calm down, you two.

Now, who knows how they're going to do those flashes on Dredd's - and the other Judges' - helmet visors ? After the cross-piece on the nose, and the respirator "badge", they're part of the signature of Dredd's look, so they ahve to be there, right ?

- C
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 13 April, 2012, 04:35:14 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 10 April, 2012, 02:46:01 AM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 10 April, 2012, 01:07:27 AM
2003 called and it wants its website back.

I don't get it...

Quote from: A.Cow on 10 April, 2012, 02:09:24 AM
Yes, I always find that pre-Industrial Revolution, slave-owning, dead US Presidents provide tremendous insight into the social & political issues of the 21st Century.

It's not specific issues that I quoted Jefferson about, it was certain broadstroke truths he espoused that have relevance to this day (the dangers of a central bank, pitfalls of foreign intervention, the primacy of individual liberty, the dangers of an unelected-therefore-unaccountable judiciary acting as proxy legislators, etc) and as far as owning slaves goes, it was just the mindset back then, and the U.S. Founding Fathers had very real reservations about the issue of slavery, which is why the three-fifths clause was inserted in the Constitution, to limit the influence and over-representation of slave states in Congress relative to their population demographics... and I would take Jefferson or any of the Founders over ANY Euro-trash leader any day of the week and twice on Sundays, never has a more enlightened group of scholarly, learned, and genuinely wise men ever been involved in the founding a nation state, period!

Whoooaahh Beaky have you been at the lemonade WTF.Please have a seat I have bad news , first God doesn't exist.I know you believe you have firm evidence from the talking snake and folk who wrote the gospels decades after the event but put a bit a thought into what you believe.Lets discount the 'anomalies' like the Earth is only a few thousand years old,God is a man ??, Moses was hundreds of years old (I won't bring Methusalah up), the inbreeding required from Adam and Eve, Jonah living in a fish,the Dinosaurs , the Ten Commandments that focus heavily on God (not, dont torture, rape, molest children  etc etc etc), the dire warnings to believe 'or else', the wierd contradiction of Hell (the bad guy punishes bad guys??) the wierd God sent himself on a suicide mission saga, the repudiation of evolution-I could go on but I won't.Lets also discount the fact that modern man ie homo sapien sapien existed for literally hundreds of thousands of years before Christ showed up, or that millions upon millions of humans have lived and died even after Christianity completely unaware of it.Lets just look at the pure fact that humans have a rational mind and what you believe makes no sense, so.........(for the sake of argument) come the Pearly Gates everyone can just say 'you expected us to believe THAT oh come on??Before you dismiss this argument look at the tenets of Scientology or Mormonism  which are even more bizarre and how many followers they have (simply believe doesn't cut it)

Next you diss all Euro leaders as trash -well to be fair you have a point there are a fair few in that catergory.Yet its the Greeks that came up with Democracy and us poor Brits that came up with Paliamentary democracy, so really you do owe us big time.As for the founding fathers -'slavery was a 'mindset', oh please, they had a choice like anyone else.Last piece of bad news -most of your 'founding fathers were ATHEISTS and some hated Christianity.

Benjamin Franklin 'Lighthouses are more useful than churches'

Wise men as you say.

Right wing Christian Zionists are ,in my view a huge threat to World security.Correct me if I'm wrong but the Zionist bit refers to the biblical prediction that the 'end times' will come with the fall of the temple mount  and the battle of Meggido which necessitates the existence of the state of Israel.Basically this gives unqualified support to Isreal from US Christian conservatives which undermines Middle East peace as witnessed over the last 60 years.

I still think you're a good bloke Beaky ,this is just a retort to something you brought up (can you tell it's a pet hate of mine  :lol:).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 13 April, 2012, 06:56:13 AM
I liked this thread way more when we were discussing Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 13 April, 2012, 07:36:54 AM
Curse you Sherman Kid, with a single post you've completely shattered my world view.  Now I'm fightin' with Beaky Smoochies block!   

This isn't the place for this sort of thing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 13 April, 2012, 08:53:24 AM
Holy shit - I just read on the internet that they're making a film of Judge Dredd!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 13 April, 2012, 09:02:31 AM
So,lawmaster..... Wonder if he will use its bike cannons?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 13 April, 2012, 09:14:58 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 April, 2012, 12:57:52 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 12 April, 2012, 12:16:22 PM


[spoiler]Both films are about law enforcers fighting their way through a load of gangsters, advancing up the levels of a city block towards a confrontation with the gang boss.[/spoiler]



It's closer than that: [spoiler]both films are about elite law enforcers ascending a city block that contains a drug factory and a drug Baron that must be taken down.[/spoiler]

Yeah, no, still don't see a problem. Lucky me.

Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 April, 2012, 11:13:25 AMTHE RAID appears to be very Martial Arts orientated type of pic, Bruce Lee with machine guns.

DREDD should have enough that's different about it, a Futuristic Action thriller rather than a contemporary Cops vs Robbers story to distinguish it on it's own.

That's what I'm thinking too.

Dredd has a huge story/fantastical world behind it and I'm itching to see how they realise it. I love action movies, nothing wrong with whambamthankyoumam flick with action and not much else and I'm sure I'll enjoy the Raid, but in Dredd's case, we get the whole shebang, story and setting and characters and action galore. Awesomecakes :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 13 April, 2012, 10:36:07 AM
Right wing Christian zionists are the closest thing there is to pure evil. They want to stifle, trample, control, enforce, destroy and crush. Fuck them and their simplistic, harmful beliefs.

More importantly, [spoiler]yes, Dredd uses the bike cannons. He even shouts "BIKE CANNON!" if I remember rightly from reading the script.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: klute on 13 April, 2012, 11:02:52 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 13 April, 2012, 06:56:13 AM
I liked this thread way more when we were discussing Dredd.
Same here can we keep the religious and political stuff in the other thread?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 13 April, 2012, 11:06:45 AM
Okay, right now I'm torn between two of my favourite things -
1. Telling people to shut the fuck up
2. Jumping feet first into an religious argument.

And.... since we're here (nominally) for Dredd, I'll call down a 'Shut The Fuck Up' for all this shit about religion and politics. Those of you who read my blog know where I stand on those things and are any and all are happy to bash my head in there.

So what happened to this big announcement that was supposed to relate to one of the crew/actors? Or was that all just a feed-line for some poor April Fools Day jokes?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 13 April, 2012, 11:14:44 AM
Step away from the religious arguement - or at least take it to another thread.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 13 April, 2012, 11:16:35 AM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 13 April, 2012, 10:36:07 AM
Right wing Christian zionists are the closest thing there is to pure evil. They want to stifle, trample, control, enforce, destroy and crush. Fuck them and their simplistic, harmful beliefs.


And that's a simplistic generalisation.

It's clear the extreme, radical wings of many religions/beliefs are pretty equal when it comes to evil. And I'm not talking of just the rightwing side; I'm liberal and I know damn well how ugly liberals can be. Eg I wonder if Archbishop Rowan, and other male 'leaders', would be so open to sharia if they were the ones who had to wear a burkha. Yeah, no, I don't have to wonder.

... And I was doing so well resisting getting drawn in. DREDD. FILM. DISCUSSION. Come on, now!

I saw the trailer for Looper is out, which is due in September too, so fingers crossed we shouldn't have to wait too long for Dredd's.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 13 April, 2012, 11:18:45 AM
Quote from: Angry Vince on 13 April, 2012, 11:06:45 AM
And.... since we're here (nominally) for Dredd, I'll call down a 'Shut The Fuck Up' for all this shit about religion and politics.

No, you shut the fuck up. There...I win.

You're right though. It's a fools game talking about that shit. Back to Dredd...

Quote from: Angry Vince on 13 April, 2012, 11:06:45 AM
So what happened to this big announcement that was supposed to relate to one of the crew/actors? Or was that all just a feed-line for some poor April Fools Day jokes?

I didn't hear about that, what was said?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 13 April, 2012, 11:28:17 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 March, 2012, 05:09:18 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 30 March, 2012, 03:55:55 PM
Be carefully, as it could be another false one from you-know-who, you could looks sheepish from it?
No its the real deal, but I have left it in the capable hands of Thargs advisors as I fear the Rigellian Hotshots coming my way should I post.
So out of my hands now. (Now I look dumb for posting!). Doh!

Think Judge Kowolsky had a bit of info 0n one of the DREDD actors Lee.

THARG's got 'im doing twenty to life on Titan. :-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 April, 2012, 12:27:50 PM
I notice on twitter today, that Total Film got it new mag out today, but one feature says Total Film bring you 12 surprise movies that should headline your list of ones to watch in 2012.

Anyone read Total Film today and see if Dredd is featured?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 13 April, 2012, 12:50:27 PM
He shouts [spoiler]Bike cannon[/spoiler]

Great stuff,reminds me of watching the old 60's Batman last week, his bat mobile broke down so he went for ( I shit you not) a bat walk.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 April, 2012, 04:14:53 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 13 April, 2012, 11:28:17 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 March, 2012, 05:09:18 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 30 March, 2012, 03:55:55 PM
Be carefully, as it could be another false one from you-know-who, you could looks sheepish from it?
No its the real deal, but I have left it in the capable hands of Thargs advisors as I fear the Rigellian Hotshots coming my way should I post.
So out of my hands now. (Now I look dumb for posting!). Doh!

I should be off TITAN in 15 with a bit of luck. All information has been passed on the Molch-R Droid saves me doing 5 ;)

Think Judge Kowolsky had a bit of info 0n one of the DREDD actors Lee.

THARG's got 'im doing twenty to life on Titan. :-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 April, 2012, 04:15:44 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 April, 2012, 04:14:53 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 13 April, 2012, 11:28:17 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 March, 2012, 05:09:18 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 30 March, 2012, 03:55:55 PM
Be carefully, as it could be another false one from you-know-who, you could looks sheepish from it?
No its the real deal, but I have left it in the capable hands of Thargs advisors as I fear the Rigellian Hotshots coming my way should I post.
So out of my hands now. (Now I look dumb for posting!). Doh!



Think Judge Kowolsky had a bit of info 0n one of the DREDD actors Lee.

THARG's got 'im doing twenty to life on Titan. :-\


I should be off TITAN in 15 with a bit of luck. All information has been passed on the Molch-R Droid saves me doing 5 ;)

*Cant edit post.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 13 April, 2012, 05:17:51 PM
There so generous! :)

Hail our fascist overlords everybody.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 13 April, 2012, 11:56:39 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 13 April, 2012, 12:27:50 PM
I notice on twitter today, that Total Film got it new mag out today, but one feature says Total Film bring you 12 surprise movies that should headline your list of ones to watch in 2012.

Anyone read Total Film today and see if Dredd is featured?

Not seen Total Film yet, but read SFX which has an article on Dredd, but nothing new at all just recycling stuff already out.

(PS Note to self -never post after a night out , at least I didn't slllurrrr my text  :|)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 14 April, 2012, 03:39:38 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 13 April, 2012, 04:35:14 AM
I still think you're a good bloke Beaky ,this is just a retort to something you brought up (can you tell it's a pet hate of mine  :lol:).

Ssshhh, don't be telling everyone that, I have a reputation as the token tea-bagger/religious moonbat of this forum to protect dude, although I can unequivocally state that I won't utter another word here about the whole religion/politics issue, I didn't learn my lesson after causing an almighty ruckus on the Political thread a while back, but I've learnt it now, from here on in, it's strictly Dredd and Dredd alone...

...speaking of which, does anyone have any idea if the new movie's Lawmaster tyres are going to be wide and fat, I seem to remember someone on the Altered States VFX (the company behind the props on Dredd) Facebook page asking the same question around late 2010, and those leaked photos of the Lawmaster are hard to discern at that angle, care to clarify the tyres issue Mr van Kesteren,  I so hope they're not skinny and ridiculous moped tyres like in the Stallone debacle ::)...!?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 14 April, 2012, 04:41:06 AM
Quote


...speaking of which, does anyone have any idea if the new movie's Lawmaster tyres are going to be wide and fat, I seem to remember someone on the Altered States VFX (the company behind the props on Dredd) Facebook page asking the same question around late 2010, and those leaked photos of the Lawmaster are hard to discern at that angle, care to clarify the tyres issue Mr van Kesteren,  I so hope they're not skinny and ridiculous moped tyres like in the Stallone debacle ::)...!?

I'm hoping that just like the van, they will replace them in post-production.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 April, 2012, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 14 April, 2012, 04:41:06 AM
Quote...speaking of which, does anyone have any idea if the new movie's Lawmaster tyres are going to be wide and fat, I seem to remember someone on the Altered States VFX (the company behind the props on Dredd) Facebook page asking the same question around late 2010, and those leaked photos of the Lawmaster are hard to discern at that angle, care to clarify the tyres issue Mr van Kesteren,  I so hope they're not skinny and ridiculous moped tyres like in the Stallone debacle ::)...!?
'm hoping that just like the van, they will replace them in post-production.

I think what you saw is what you're going to get. DREDD is set in a near Future so I doubt they'll jazz anything up in P.P.

RoboCop has very old style vehicles with very little that was Futuristic about them and since DREDD is a mid budget Flick it has to save money some where.  This isn't a road Movie it's set inside one Block so not much point in spending lots of cash on vehicles your only going to see very briefly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 14 April, 2012, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 13 April, 2012, 12:50:27 PM
He shouts [spoiler]Bike cannon[/spoiler]


Do we actually know they stuck to the leaked script? Just curious. It seems like script changes can happen easily, and I'm thinking here of LOTR where they said it could happen every day.

I don't care whether he shouts it, to be honest, and prefer not if they're going for comic effect - and no, being reminded of 60s Batman is not good. Nowhere in the realm of good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 April, 2012, 11:39:40 AM
Rumour about the DREDD Movie possibly being shown at KAPOW Uk Convention. Rumour mind. Link below.

http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1874/rumor-dredd-and-karl-possibly-on-kapow-uk-convention/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 April, 2012, 11:41:36 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 April, 2012, 11:39:40 AM
Rumour about the DREDD Movie possibly being shown at KAPOW Uk Convention. Rumour mind. Link below.
http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1874/rumor-dredd-and-karl-possibly-on-kapow-uk-convention/

Er not shown more sort of Talked about. Sorry for the double post Mods. Not Titan, p-p--le-e-assee!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 14 April, 2012, 11:59:39 AM
Hmmmmm, Millar's PR machine implied there would be some Dredd news last year and, other than a few titbits from Jock, there was fuck all. It was hilarious when Burdis cornered Millar, towered over him and gave him a real piece of his mind!

So, I ain't gonna believe it until I see something concrete.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 14 April, 2012, 12:15:02 PM
Once bitten, twice-shy... not even sure I can be bothered with Kapow this year.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 14 April, 2012, 12:22:14 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 14 April, 2012, 11:59:39 AM
It was hilarious when Burdis cornered Millar, towered over him and gave him a real piece of his mind!

Oh how I would have loved to have seen that.  :lol:

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 April, 2012, 12:37:05 PM
I doubt they'll preview Dredd 4 months before release.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 April, 2012, 12:53:12 PM
Promotion opportunity maybe?

Launch the Movies Trailer with a bit of a fanfare at a Comic Fan Fair might be a good idea from the Promoters point of view.   
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 14 April, 2012, 01:05:51 PM
Oh for Christ's sake, can we finish cuddling and just get to the damn sex!

Sorry, was thinking of something else...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 14 April, 2012, 01:18:09 PM
You guys are gonna be really pissed when they put out a mere 30 second teaser with no actual footage  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 April, 2012, 02:17:26 PM
A font would do at this stage.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 14 April, 2012, 03:39:51 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 14 April, 2012, 02:17:26 PM
A font would do at this stage.

Exactly! Just a teaser poster that said Dredd and had nothing else on it would be enough just to let people know this movie is coming out and when!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 14 April, 2012, 03:58:07 PM
A FONT you say? A TEASER POSTER you say?

How's this? Just for yous guys!

(http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q599/SteevTH/dredd_teaser.jpg)

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 April, 2012, 04:13:06 PM
There some better posters on here; http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,35211.0.html (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,35211.0.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 14 April, 2012, 05:48:49 PM

Quote

I think what you saw is what you're going to get. DREDD is set in a near Future so I doubt they'll jazz anything up in P.P.

RoboCop has very old style vehicles with very little that was Futuristic about them and since DREDD is a mid budget Flick it has to save money some where.  This isn't a road Movie it's set inside one Block so not much point in spending lots of cash on vehicles your only going to see very briefly.

Jock stated that they will be replacing the van.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 14 April, 2012, 07:15:07 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 14 April, 2012, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 13 April, 2012, 12:50:27 PM
He shouts [spoiler]Bike cannon[/spoiler]


Do we actually know they stuck to the leaked script? Just curious. It seems like script changes can happen easily, and I'm thinking here of LOTR where they said it could happen every day.

I don't care whether he shouts it, to be honest, and prefer not if they're going for comic effect - and no, being reminded of 60s Batman is not good. Nowhere in the realm of good.

Well, they've changed the appearance of Ma-ma - I doubt it would be in there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 15 April, 2012, 03:27:13 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 April, 2012, 11:39:40 AM
Rumour about the DREDD Movie possibly being shown at KAPOW Uk Convention. Rumour mind.

If - and it's certainly a pretty massive IF - Dredd will be either previewed in it's entirety or just the unveiling of the trailer at KapowCon, it would make a lot of sense, and could possibly explain why no trailer has been forthcoming thus far... and as for not previewing it four months in advance, why not, firstly it's complete and finished, plus if the film is the bollox, the amount of great (and free) publicity would be enormous, and would most certainly create a considerable level of expectation leading up to September's release, but I think it will be the trailer, personally... hope I'm wrong though!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 15 April, 2012, 10:40:23 AM
My Huss is a sizzle reel then the trailer/teaser will drop a few weeks later online...will urban or the director be there? Possible,would be a missed op either way if they don't.britians biggest comic character at Britains biggest comics convention, seems like a no brainer which means it (sods law) we prons won't see a bloody thing....either way we are that close now I can wait until release anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 15 April, 2012, 11:44:05 AM
Would be really nice if the UK Convention would show a little teaser, with Karl on the stage. Maybe a little Q/A...or together with Simon Pegg ;). Just a fantasy, but it would be nice.

Or..maybe they will do something on Comic-Con in San Diego...maybe Star Trek too. The timing would be nice too.

Anyway, just hoping, and keeping an eye on the time schcedules and waiting. Nothing more we can do.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 April, 2012, 11:56:24 AM
Could they be saving their promotion for the  American Convention season?

More events in the USA I guess and bigger audiences so with a limited budget it might be worth pitching the Film over there since JUDGE DREDD is an American technically speaking. I'm sure they'll mention something at the UK KAPOW event but it might just be 'yes, we've made a Judge Dredd Film ' type of blurb that tells us nothing.

Pitching it in American does make more economic sense even if we do feel a little left out here in Blighty land.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 15 April, 2012, 11:56:53 AM
PS: And with waiting I mean really long waiting... In Germany the movie will be released on 28th november... *dying* This is so unfair ;__;
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 April, 2012, 12:16:08 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 15 April, 2012, 11:56:53 AM
PS: And with waiting I mean really long waiting... In Germany the movie will be released on 28th november... *dying* This is so unfair ;__;

Blimey that's two whole months after we've seen it. We'll tell you whether it's worth going to see or whether you should live forever in blissful ignorance of it's c***ness!

At least there's no Cod Piece to embarrass everyone.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 15 April, 2012, 12:21:02 PM
@ I am the system: Not gonna happen.  :)  Karl will get support in any form a fan can provide. Come what may come. I do not think the fans of Dredd or Karl will leave them alone in the hollywood world.  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 15 April, 2012, 12:24:34 PM
I had no idea film distributors hated the Germans so much, making them wait like that.You think Hollywood would be grateful as the Germans past history makes for perfect film and TV  baddies. "Just add Nazis" being a well worn trope.

And the new film will I'm sure be grand.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 April, 2012, 12:26:07 PM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 15 April, 2012, 03:27:13 AM
... and as for not previewing it four months in advance, why not




In regards to how they might market it, nothing so far has indicated a philosophy of let it all out there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 15 April, 2012, 12:27:38 PM
I just checked the date again. They "moved" the movie a bit to 15. november....
http://wdsmp-content.de/JUDGEDREDD3D/index.html

Question to Hollywood: What is complicated to make one world wide release? It is not the dub-thing. (f.e. "This means War" was out a week before the US)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 April, 2012, 12:29:05 PM
It all depends on the distributor for Germany, each territory will have a different one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 April, 2012, 12:31:50 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 15 April, 2012, 12:27:38 PM
I just checked the date again. They "moved" the movie a bit to 15. november....
http://wdsmp-content.de/JUDGEDREDD3D/index.html
Question to Hollywood: What is complicated to make one world wide release? It is not the dub-thing. (f.e. "This means War" was out a week before the US)

Expense I assume. You might not want to dub a Film that 'dies' at the Box Office. Bit mean but Hollywood's all about the dollar and making money.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 15 April, 2012, 12:32:20 PM
Yeah...maybe it is the Disney-kind-of-thing-reason.... Anyway... I am really looking forward to the movie. Really Really Really :) *positive thinking*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 April, 2012, 12:34:17 PM
Would you not prefer subtitles? I hate dubbed films.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 15 April, 2012, 01:03:22 PM
Subtitiles? Yes. Love english dub and english sub. But the cinemas only show dub. Later on the DVD and Bluray, subtitles are not a problem, most of the time. But in the last years, more and more DVds do not cover english subtitles (f.e. Margin Call...such a big disappointment). So you have to import the UK or USA DVDs and BluRays and click on the button for "hearing deaf".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 15 April, 2012, 03:06:19 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 15 April, 2012, 12:27:38 PM
Question to Hollywood: What is complicated to make one world wide release? It is not the dub-thing.

Your lead actor can only physically be in one country at a time to promote it.  If a company can stagger the release dates then they can stagger the chat show appearances too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 15 April, 2012, 03:27:39 PM
Hm. Let`s see how many time Karl has later in this year. "Red 2" is on the shooting-plan. But well, waiting and hoping :).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 April, 2012, 03:32:18 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 15 April, 2012, 03:27:39 PM
Hm. Let`s see how many time Karl has later in this year. "Red 2" is on the shooting-plan. But well, waiting and hoping :).

Star Trek 2
Riddick 3
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 15 April, 2012, 03:35:42 PM
Yeah. Not many time to promote Dredd this year.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rex The Runt on 16 April, 2012, 01:36:54 AM
Hey guys. 
What do y'all think about if/when a trailer is released actually NOT watching it?

I decided on this line of action a while ago when I felt trailers were giving away WAY too much and leaving nothing new for when I actually watched the movie.  They tend to throw all the big ooh-aah money shots in them so you tend to feel them coming up and there's absolutely NO surprise on the day.

Consequently apart from some still pics, I've seen not a single second of footage from Prometheus, TDKR, Hobbit, and Dredd will be the same.  So every time a shot comes up that'll be the first time I see it, as the filmmakers intended, not the marketing machine.

I regard trailers nowadays as spoilers!

As a longtime fan of the comics I really don't need a trailer to tell me I want to see a Dredd film, but when I do it will be fresh!  Anyone concur?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 April, 2012, 01:38:19 AM
Better stay off this thread so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 16 April, 2012, 09:11:16 AM
You have a point, Runty my boy- unfortunately Joe Has a point too: I concur in principle, I'm a life-long 'trailer-avoiderer' (for the exact reasons you mention). However, I must admit that curiosity will probably get the better of me on this one...
Can't help meself I s'pose.
If you want to keep your brain clear for a viewing experience it probably is good advice to steer clear of this thread, ( mind you there's so little coming down the line at the moment that we've already digressed into politics/religion and the suitability of Bruce Forsythe in the title role).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 16 April, 2012, 09:19:32 AM
QuoteWhat do y'all think about if/when a trailer is released actually NOT watching it?

Oh, absolutely. I try and avoid trailers as much as possible - I didn't watch any of the Inception trailers and enjoyed the film all the more for it, and try to limit myself only to teasers for most other films like The Avengers and Prometheus.

Dredd, though.... I haven't been so excited for a film since The Phantom Menace and I just know I'm going to devour every morsel of info that is released, and will inevitably watch any and all trailers dozens of times.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 16 April, 2012, 09:53:34 AM
The whole internet is a spoiler bag.
*throwing a quote from Karl in here, you can read it likewise in terms of Dredd*

KU: Any advice for men to live by? Hmmm. Wow. Yes. I think pretty well one of the most important philosophies to live by is "don't do today what you can put off doing until tomorrow."

SM: That's an interesting one.

KU: Hah. I'm joking. The most important piece of advice is I think if there is a football match, or a basketball match or some sporting fixture you've recorded, don't go online, don't read the papers, don't answer the phone until you've watched it. Nothing worse than having the score blown before you've seen the game.

Read more: http://www.shavemagazine.com/entertainment/interview-karl-urban/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 16 April, 2012, 10:14:18 AM
Quote from: radiator on 16 April, 2012, 09:19:32 AM
Dredd, though.... I haven't been so excited for a film since The Phantom Menace and I just know I'm going to devour every morsel of info that is released, and will inevitably watch any and all trailers dozens of times.

Not the best film to compare Dredd with!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 16 April, 2012, 11:57:24 AM
Quote from: radiator on 16 April, 2012, 09:19:32 AMI haven't been so excited for a film since The Phantom Menace

Brilliant!   :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 April, 2012, 11:04:26 AM
Five months to go... :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 April, 2012, 11:37:30 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 17 April, 2012, 11:04:26 AM
Five months to go... :)

Bit premature there Goaty! Release date is 21/09/12 if I'm not mistaken?

I can understand your enthusiasm though! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 April, 2012, 11:42:10 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 17 April, 2012, 11:37:30 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 17 April, 2012, 11:04:26 AM
Five months to go... :)

Bit premature there Goaty! Release date is 21/09/12 if I'm not mistaken?

I can understand your enthusiasm though! :)

Well, gotta to as lots negatives on here! It only quiet month, as with The Raid out, as can easy confused people, but really looking forward to Dredd film in September. No News is good News.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 April, 2012, 12:10:15 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 17 April, 2012, 11:04:26 AM
Five months to go... :)


Only two weeks to Chaos though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 April, 2012, 12:13:36 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 April, 2012, 12:10:15 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 17 April, 2012, 11:04:26 AM
Five months to go... :)


Only two weeks to Chaos though.

Thanks for not spolier any, always get Prog on Wednesday, as people here talks about what happens in Chaos this week... (wonder what it is, but gotta wait till tomorrow morning!)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 17 April, 2012, 12:52:20 PM
Jock created the poster for Dredd is that right ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 17 April, 2012, 01:17:13 PM
Jock has created a poster for Dredd, yes. Perhaps not the poster though.

Perhaps I'm being a little unfair, but I always associate Entertainment - the UK distributors of Dredd - with really naff, dated-looking design on their posters/DVD covers etc, but looking at their website it seems they have improved somewhat in recent years.

I can remember them still rocking this monstrosity as their logo in the mid-noughties:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Entertainment_in_video_logo.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 April, 2012, 01:21:31 PM
Quote from: radiator on 17 April, 2012, 01:17:13 PM
Jock has created a poster for Dredd, yes. Perhaps not the poster though.

Perhaps I'm being a little unfair, but I always associate Entertainment - the UK distributors of Dredd - with really naff, dated-looking design on their posters/DVD covers etc, but looking at their website it seems they have improved somewhat in recent years.

I can remember them still rocking this monstrosity as their logo in the mid-noughties:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Entertainment_in_video_logo.jpg)

Oh I hate Entertainment In Video, they never produced subtitles for their films they distributed in VHS and DVD!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 April, 2012, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: radiator on 17 April, 2012, 01:17:13 PM


Perhaps I'm being a little unfair, but I always associate Entertainment - the UK distributors of Dredd - with really naff, dated-looking design on their posters/DVD covers etc, but looking at their website it seems they have improved somewhat in recent years.



They distributed Lord of the Rings.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 17 April, 2012, 06:05:39 PM
Yeah I know, they were still using that logo when the first one came out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 April, 2012, 08:47:05 AM
Someone post it at Dredd IMDB, as you see the image before in last year's Empire, but here it's High-Def image...

(http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/dredd-535x359.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 April, 2012, 09:14:26 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 18 April, 2012, 08:47:05 AM
Someone post it at Dredd IMDB, as you see the image before in last year's Empire, but here it's High-Def image...

(http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/dredd-535x359.jpg)


It's too small for 'hi-def' but it's been ripped from the ipad edition of last year's Empire. Just like this one:


(http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/dredd_2.jpg)



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 April, 2012, 09:17:10 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 April, 2012, 09:14:26 AM

It's too small for 'hi-def' but it's been ripped from the ipad edition of last year's Empire. Just like this one:


Well cheers, better than scanned images??
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 18 April, 2012, 01:58:27 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 April, 2012, 12:10:15 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 17 April, 2012, 11:04:26 AM
Five months to go... :)


Only two weeks to Chaos though.

How do you know that?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 April, 2012, 02:16:22 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 18 April, 2012, 01:58:27 PM
Only two weeks to Chaos though.

How do you know that?



There's a [spoiler]big countdown clock on the front of the site[/spoiler].
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 18 April, 2012, 03:07:32 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 April, 2012, 02:16:22 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 18 April, 2012, 01:58:27 PM
Only two weeks to Chaos though.

How do you know that?



There's a [spoiler]big countdown clock on the front of the site[/spoiler].

Hmmm, didn't know what that was for, then after reading the prog today assumed it was for the [spoiler]return of the dark judges[/spoiler].Didn't assume that coincided with the start of the Day of Chaos, seeing as so many unpredictable things have happened already, but you're probably right.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 18 April, 2012, 03:37:04 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 18 April, 2012, 03:07:32 PMHmmm, didn't know what that was for, then after reading the prog today assumed it was for the [spoiler]return of the dark judges[/spoiler].Didn't assume that coincided with the start of the Day of Chaos, seeing as so many unpredictable things have happened already, but you're probably right.

If you haven't been checking in with the "Rebellion teases three mysterious images" thread, the teasers they've been releasing over on the CBR site all have the date May 2nd on them.  (You can see the full set - now nine images, and spoilery for prog 1779 - here (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=38197).)  Since they're making such a big deal of promoting that specific date to outside audiences, and the [spoiler]return of the Dark Judges[/spoiler] is already hinted at in this week's prog, it seems pretty likely that the May 2nd prog will be the start of the next storyline rather than Eve of Destruction part 17.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 18 April, 2012, 09:01:24 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 April, 2012, 09:14:26 AM
It's too small for 'hi-def' but it's been ripped from the ipad edition of last year's Empire. Just like this one:
(http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/dredd_2.jpg)

What a Dreddy moment that is. Who needs to knock when you can kick the door down?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 19 April, 2012, 03:09:09 AM
Please stop showing those gobsmackingly awesome pics, if you don't mind, it's not exactly making this insufferable wait any more bearable... I don't think I can take much more of this...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 April, 2012, 03:55:29 AM
I wonder if the film will have a premiere in London with a little judicial glitz thrown in for good measure,
like a few judges taking on crowd control duties. :)

Either way would be good for exposure, that is if an R rated film counts for a premiere of this sort.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 19 April, 2012, 05:14:08 AM
I can see it now,Judges clubbing anti capitalists/students/anyone on the front of the Daily Mail outside the theater with the headline 'Cameron gets tough with the hippies/workshy/pensioners' or something...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 19 April, 2012, 09:40:48 AM
Wouldn't put it past Judge Burris to be there...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 20 April, 2012, 04:57:23 AM
Does anybody know the source of this picture?
This is the first time I've seen it.

(http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/still/dredd07.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 20 April, 2012, 05:18:23 AM
Empire mag about six months ago if I remember.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 20 April, 2012, 05:28:35 AM
Scratch that, they popped up on the Karlurban fansite I think,but it's early and I've been wrong before( see above)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 April, 2012, 08:14:57 AM
It was part of a collection of photos taken from a photographer's showreel:


http://www.filmofilia.com/new-dredd-images-online-89600/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Radbacker on 20 April, 2012, 08:25:43 AM
I really like the way they incorperated the Eagle on the shoulder pad, makes so much more sense than some big huge lump of metal just balanced there from the last movie.
Come on I need a preview, it cant be too far away.

Cu Radabcker
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 April, 2012, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: Radbacker on 20 April, 2012, 08:25:43 AM
makes so much more sense than some big huge lump of metal


or sprayed plastic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 April, 2012, 08:58:54 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 20 April, 2012, 04:57:23 AM
Does anybody know the source of this picture?
This is the first time I've seen it.

Be thanks, you dont see Scojo's alternative pictures first...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 20 April, 2012, 09:00:29 AM
I know comparisons between this and the Stallone movie ate inevitable and have been going on since this was announced...

But closer we get to release I wish comparisons would go away...

Not a remake or reboot. Just not connected at all

I know... I am moaning again...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 20 April, 2012, 10:32:01 AM
I'd seen it before but must have had a brain freeze - only just realised how they'd done the eagle outstretched shoulder pads. Very clever design.

Alright, trying to be a good and patient fan, but if May comes and goes without even a teaser vid, or hell, a teaser poster, I'm going to join the table-thumping lot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 20 April, 2012, 11:39:15 AM
Kapow meeting is next month [a month today in fact] on the 19 and 20th of May.

Perhaps then we'll get the unveiling of the DREDD Movie Poster or some words on when to expect the Movies Trailer. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 April, 2012, 01:31:26 PM
My brother was text me today about check out the new film The Raid, I says it looks good, and new Dredd got sort of simliar plot. He reply, but this got KUNG FOO! I just reply him with link of;

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DN3K27BLmOw/TzZzQzKA84I/AAAAAAAAF8I/QfmgNbbbGek/s1600/tumblr_lz0g8ua2Y91qafqw8o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 20 April, 2012, 07:54:17 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 20 April, 2012, 04:57:23 AM
Does anybody know the source of this picture?
This is the first time I've seen it.

(http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/still/dredd07.jpg)

I think it's from the new Judge Dredd movie.

:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 20 April, 2012, 11:20:05 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 20 April, 2012, 07:54:17 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 20 April, 2012, 04:57:23 AM
Does anybody know the source of this picture?
This is the first time I've seen it.
I think it's from the new Judge Dredd movie.

Bloody hell!  There's a new Judge Dredd movie?  Somebody should release a trailer or something*.

(* Preferably featuring a dancing cow)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 20 April, 2012, 11:31:58 PM
You'd think we'd know if there was a new Dredd movie....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 21 April, 2012, 02:11:01 AM
Quote from: Radbacker on 20 April, 2012, 08:25:43 AM
I really like the way they incorperated the Eagle on the shoulder pad, makes so much more sense than some big huge lump of metal just balanced there from the last movie.
Come on I need a preview, it cant be too far away.

Cu Radabcker

Yeah, I think they took the smart route with the eagle. I really like the slimmed-down design.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 22 April, 2012, 06:42:00 AM
I'm pretty impressed with everything I've seen concerning the new Judge outfits, they look less like costumes, per se, and more like practical, functional, and credible appliances for law-enforcing in a lawless city; full protective body armour rather than a camp piece of kit designed for purely aesthetic reasons (Stallone debacle, we're looking at you) and which no Judge would last more than five minutes out on the streets of the Big Meg in, kudos to Dredd costume designer Andrew O'Connor (did I get his name right?)...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 22 April, 2012, 07:02:34 AM
... and after just checking, turns out I DID NOT get it right, it's Michael O'Connor, not what I wrote, kudos to him then for the Dredd costume designs, sorry dude...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 22 April, 2012, 09:10:42 AM
Yeah it was different at first but now I love it too,I really need to see what it would look like drawn by the regular 2000ad artists to see how it translates back.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 22 April, 2012, 02:22:12 PM
I just want to see the uniform under the body armour.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 22 April, 2012, 02:31:49 PM
I hear those eagle symbol Y-Fronts are all the rage.... :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 22 April, 2012, 03:49:07 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 22 April, 2012, 09:10:42 AM
Yeah it was different at first but now I love it too,I really need to see what it would look like drawn by the regular 2000ad artists to see how it translates back.

Any Art Droids got your ears on?

Would be interesting to see Dredd n other recognisable Prog Judges in the Movie gear.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 22 April, 2012, 04:21:03 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 22 April, 2012, 02:22:12 PM
I just want to see the uniform under the body armour.


We're starting to devour our young now  :o, a  scrap or mere morsel from the Dredd PR machine table needs to be released soon- Dredd forum thread now on lifesupport. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: auxlen on 22 April, 2012, 05:21:04 PM
I'm just hoping Dredd's an absolute cold blooded shit. In reality judges are a horrific idea and although they are the 'heroes' i want them to be ruthless etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 22 April, 2012, 08:42:56 PM
still not a trailer to be seen :( good job the prog is white hot ,the hell that is taking over mega city one has my  thrill senses on over ride! no film will live up to the latest dredd epic outstanding!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 22 April, 2012, 11:35:19 PM
Still nothing, eh?

Saw a copy of SFX at Tesco and found an article on Dredd.. Nothing new, same old image from waaaaay back in the day..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 April, 2012, 11:47:10 PM
I check this topic pretty much every day.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 23 April, 2012, 01:24:01 AM
The length of time that we've been waiting since the announcement that the film was  greenlit to the release date is much longer in comparison to other comic book movies. I seem to remember that xmen first class began shooting at a similar time to Dredd but that came out about a year ago.

I guess we just have to put up with a little more waiting until this summers heavy hitters  have all disappeared from the cinemas.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 23 April, 2012, 01:40:47 AM
If the trailer doesn't hit this week, I'm going to be surprised.

Statham's new movie SAFE was financed by the same companies, will be distributed by the same studio (in the US), and will probably have the same rating. Even their budgets are similar.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 April, 2012, 01:45:17 AM
Shall we all just wait till around July 12-15 and see what happens then!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 23 April, 2012, 04:44:50 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 23 April, 2012, 01:24:01 AM
I seem to remember that xmen first class began shooting at a similar time to Dredd but that came out about a year ago.

Now there's a film that could have used some extra time!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 23 April, 2012, 10:16:51 PM
Quote from: wadew1 on 23 April, 2012, 01:40:47 AM
If the trailer doesn't hit this week, I'm going to be surprised.

Statham's new movie SAFE was financed by the same companies, will be distributed by the same studio (in the US), and will probably have the same rating. Even their budgets are similar.

I love Statham, but can we all agree that Dredd (2012)'s almost certainly going to be a bit better than Safe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3an3bwdVRsU)? Or Mercury Rising 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6ir_4nPYvU), as it could easily be subtitled.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 April, 2012, 10:32:34 PM
I don't make bets.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 April, 2012, 10:42:12 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 April, 2012, 10:32:34 PM
I don't make bets.

Joe Soap is 2000adonline forums's Dredd, his words is the limits.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 April, 2012, 10:50:54 PM
There was New Zealand news article about one of their NZ actors... Karl Urban, included in a little film called Dredd or something...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10795865 (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10795865)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 24 April, 2012, 10:09:40 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 23 April, 2012, 10:50:54 PM
There was New Zealand news article about one of their NZ actors... Karl Urban, included in a little film called Dredd or something...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10795865 (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10795865)

Same photo ,same quotes, nothing remotely new -the Dredd PR machine rumbles on...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 24 April, 2012, 10:25:14 AM
Yes, we really should be seeing trailers, posters, interviews and merchandise FIVE MONTHS BEFORE THE FILM IS DUE TO COME OUT.

Jesus Christ, what do you expect? It's a relatively low budget film based on a largely not very well known British comic character. It might seem like the most important thing in the world to you but most people aren't aware that the film is even coming out.

Releasing a trailer or any promotional material now, months before it's released, would be stupid, confusing, pointless and self defeating as there would then be a huge gap until the film is available to see.

I would suggest, and this is a guess, that we'll start to see some promotion about two months before the release date. This would seem sensible and realistic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 24 April, 2012, 11:44:26 AM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 24 April, 2012, 10:25:14 AM
Yes, we really should be seeing trailers, posters, interviews and merchandise FIVE MONTHS BEFORE THE FILM IS DUE TO COME OUT.

Jesus Christ, what do you expect? It's a relatively low budget film based on a largely not very well known British comic character. It might seem like the most important thing in the world to you but most people aren't aware that the film is even coming out.

Releasing a trailer or any promotional material now, months before it's released, would be stupid, confusing, pointless and self defeating as there would then be a huge gap until the film is available to see.

I would suggest, and this is a guess, that we'll start to see some promotion about two months before the release date. This would seem sensible and realistic.

It's not that unheard of to start advertising now.

And what about the Empire thing they did ages ago?

I think the above are all reasons for advertising now as it is not well known that this film is coming out. If they release a trailer two months before hand a lot of people still won't know about it's existence when it hits cinemas.

And I don't see what budget has to do with it when there's a lot of ways to promote for free now with the internet.

The sooner they start pushing it the longer they have to build hype.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 24 April, 2012, 11:55:05 AM
The Kapow Comic convention [19-20th May 2012 ] has some Hollywood Panels to be revealed on May the 3rd.

Perhaps one of these 'Hollywood Panels' might be DREDD related? Good place to kick off your promotion since a lot of other industry people will be there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 April, 2012, 12:21:34 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 24 April, 2012, 11:44:26 AM

And what about the Empire thing they did ages ago?

The Empire special was released when the original Spring release date was still the intention.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SpetsnaZ99 on 24 April, 2012, 12:40:39 PM
Dark Knight Rises trailers have been out for months and its not released until July
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 24 April, 2012, 12:41:45 PM
Seriously, do we HAVE to have this conversation all over again?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 April, 2012, 12:42:01 PM
Quote from: SpetsnaZ99 on 24 April, 2012, 12:40:39 PM
Dark Knight Rises trailers have been out for months and its not released until July

But that was big budget film...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Trout on 24 April, 2012, 12:43:17 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 24 April, 2012, 12:41:45 PM
Seriously, do we HAVE to have this conversation all over again?

That's a far more polite version of what I thought, after stumbling briefly into this thread. I'll just go away again.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 24 April, 2012, 12:44:53 PM
Moderators, I think this thread is broken.  It seems to keep recycling the same few comments again and again but putting today's date on them.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 24 April, 2012, 12:49:22 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 24 April, 2012, 12:44:53 PM
Moderators, I think this thread is broken.  It seems to keep recycling the same few comments again and again but putting today's date on them.

Maybe the thread needs "Big JOBS" ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 April, 2012, 12:54:55 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 24 April, 2012, 12:41:45 PM
Seriously, do we HAVE to have this conversation all over again?



Some people think if they say it enough times, it'll happen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Third Estate Ned on 24 April, 2012, 01:17:29 PM
Well, if it cycles round like this until September, it will happen eventually.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 24 April, 2012, 01:30:19 PM
QuoteAnd I don't see what budget has to do with it when there's a lot of ways to promote for free now with the internet.

Indeed. Everyone knows 'they' don't have to pay anyone to do their PR when it's through the medium of the internet...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 24 April, 2012, 02:33:41 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 24 April, 2012, 12:41:45 PM
Seriously, do we HAVE to have this conversation all over again?

Be thankful we're not talking about the size of Karl's helmet...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 24 April, 2012, 03:02:22 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 24 April, 2012, 02:33:41 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 24 April, 2012, 12:41:45 PM
Seriously, do we HAVE to have this conversation all over again?

Be thankful we're not talking about the size of Karl's helmet...

Why do you think its too big ?  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 24 April, 2012, 05:03:35 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 24 April, 2012, 03:02:22 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 24 April, 2012, 02:33:41 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 24 April, 2012, 12:41:45 PM
Seriously, do we HAVE to have this conversation all over again?

Be thankful we're not talking about the size of Karl's helmet...

Why do you think its too big ?  :lol:

Maybe that's why Stallone wore a codpiece.

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 24 April, 2012, 05:25:32 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 23 April, 2012, 10:50:54 PM
There was New Zealand news article about one of their NZ actors... Karl Urban, included in a little film called Dredd or something...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10795865 (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10795865)

.
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 24 April, 2012, 12:44:53 PM
Moderators, I think this thread is broken.  It seems to keep recycling the same few comments again and again but putting today's date on them.

Yup
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 24 April, 2012, 06:08:13 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 24 April, 2012, 11:44:26 AM
It's not that unheard of to start advertising now.

And what about the Empire thing they did ages ago?

I think the above are all reasons for advertising now as it is not well known that this film is coming out. If they release a trailer two months before hand a lot of people still won't know about it's existence when it hits cinemas.

The sooner they start pushing it the longer they have to build hype.


The kind of forum-monkeys who wet their knickers about action/sci-fi/comic book films- whose attention Dredd (2012)'s going to have to grab for word-of-mouth- are convulsed by a three or four month ejaculatory ecstacy of Avengers/Batman/Spiderman/Hobbit spunky fun.

Trying to interrupt that nerdgasm  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKMjmzkNfxs) would be futile. Trying to grab the attention of mainstream movie-goers, who don't- generally speaking- cream over trailers or hang around forums, will be a different challenge altogether.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 24 April, 2012, 06:21:09 PM
It'll be here when it arrives...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Trout on 24 April, 2012, 07:04:32 PM
People who come to this forum just to post about the Dredd film: please buy the bloody comic. It's really good.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 25 April, 2012, 12:10:08 AM
some upcoming films have been rated in the US and DREDD is one of them

It will be rated R  for "strong bloody violence, language, drug use and some sexual content"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 25 April, 2012, 12:31:44 AM
Quote from: wadew1 on 25 April, 2012, 12:10:08 AM
some upcoming films have been rated in the US and DREDD is one of them

It will be rated R  for "strong bloody violence, language, drug use and some sexual content"

Ace!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 25 April, 2012, 12:39:19 AM
Quotesome sexual content"

That will be the helmet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 01:18:59 AM
The Dictator got an R-rating too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 25 April, 2012, 02:34:17 AM
Quote from: wadew1 on 25 April, 2012, 12:10:08 AM
some upcoming films have been rated in the US and DREDD is one of them
It will be rated R  for "strong bloody violence, language, drug use and some sexual content"

Ooohhh, it's been rated already?  With that "sexual content" bit, I guess it means THAT scene from the leaked script draft has evidently made the final cut, does the rating also state the running time as well, perchance...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 25 April, 2012, 05:12:50 AM
Good news,thought they might have  gone for a 15
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 25 April, 2012, 05:54:59 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 25 April, 2012, 05:12:50 AM
Good news,thought they might have  gone for a 15

Er..., a fair proportion of 'R' ratings end up as 15 the UK.  So it could still be a 15.

Apologies if I sound patronising (that means "talking down to people", by the way  ;)), but they don't have a 15 certificate in the US.  Anything higher than PG13 (i.e. UK 12A) gets 'R' (which means that an under-17 can see it if accompanied by an adult).

So, some 'R' stuff ends up in the UK as 15 and some as 18.  I'd guess it's probably a 50:50 split.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 25 April, 2012, 07:54:02 AM
Quote from: wadew1 on 25 April, 2012, 12:10:08 AM
some upcoming films have been rated in the US and DREDD is one of them

It will be rated R  for "strong bloody violence, language, drug use and some sexual content"

You sure?No sign of it here:http://mpaa.org/search/dredd
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 25 April, 2012, 07:55:09 AM
Ignore me,just found elsewhere!Good news!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 25 April, 2012, 08:11:24 AM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 25 April, 2012, 07:55:09 AM
Ignore me,just found elsewhere!Good news!

Am I the only person that keeps reading chuffsteruk as clusterfuck?

Maybe I've got dyslexia and tourettes. It would explain a lot...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 25 April, 2012, 08:47:58 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 25 April, 2012, 05:54:59 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 25 April, 2012, 05:12:50 AM
Good news,thought they might have  gone for a 15

Er..., a fair proportion of 'R' ratings end up as 15 the UK.  So it could still be a 15.

Apologies if I sound patronising (that means "talking down to people", by the way  ;)), but they don't have a 15 certificate in the US.  Anything higher than PG13 (i.e. UK 12A) gets 'R' (which means that an under-17 can see it if accompanied by an adult).

So, some 'R' stuff ends up in the UK as 15 and some as 18.  I'd guess it's probably a 50:50 split.
Always thought R was the US version of an 18? You live and learn.
And I didn't find your comment patronising at all honest,thanks you for including the definition though, saved me a job looking it up,I'm awful wiv big wurds.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 09:00:15 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 25 April, 2012, 08:47:58 AM
Always thought R was the US version of an 18? You live and learn.



The US version of 18 is Rated NC-17: No Children Under 17 Admitted. It replaced the old X-rating.


Rated R: Restricted – Under 17 Requires Accompanying Parent or Adult Guardian.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 April, 2012, 09:03:13 AM
Link from Jock's tweet.

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/1336605/dredd_gets_its_promised_rrating.html (http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/1336605/dredd_gets_its_promised_rrating.html)

And a link inside that link; http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=mpaa&p=.htm (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=mpaa&p=.htm)

But when you click on Dredd title, it says "Action Remake"  :-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 25 April, 2012, 09:16:56 AM
I am expecting a 15 certificate here in UK.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 25 April, 2012, 09:43:53 AM
I was epecting a 15, but the news of the 'nudity' part of the R leads me to think theyve maybe left THAT SCENE in (unless there's a bunch of tits-oot cits for no reason). I look forward to people excusing and praising that, while at the same time gnashing their teeth over a bit of underwear and cleavage in Flesh.

Im really glad ive promised myself not to bother with Dredd.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 25 April, 2012, 09:58:10 AM
Why would they? I don't recall many excusing and praising it so far.

If it was nudity I think it would have said - it probably is that scene but we'll have to see how it's played.

I still think it's gratuitous but I don't think it's going to be particularly explicit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 10:50:39 AM
I don't have a problem with nudity in the comic or on-screen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 25 April, 2012, 10:55:20 AM
Quote from: Angry Vince on 25 April, 2012, 08:11:24 AM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 25 April, 2012, 07:55:09 AM
Ignore me,just found elsewhere!Good news!

Am I the only person that keeps reading chuffsteruk as clusterfuck?

Maybe I've got dyslexia and tourettes. It would explain a lot...

That sums up my life down to a tee...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 25 April, 2012, 11:32:18 AM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 25 April, 2012, 10:55:20 AM
Quote from: Angry Vince on 25 April, 2012, 08:11:24 AM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 25 April, 2012, 07:55:09 AM
Ignore me,just found elsewhere!Good news!

Am I the only person that keeps reading chuffsteruk as clusterfuck?

Maybe I've got dyslexia and tourettes. It would explain a lot...

That sums up my life down to a tee...

Cheer up, it's not that bad. For example, if I realised that I was going to spend my birthday chatting online with a Mister Men character, I would have started drinking a lot earlier...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 25 April, 2012, 11:43:22 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 25 April, 2012, 09:43:53 AM
I was epecting a 15, but the news of the 'nudity' part of the R leads me to think theyve maybe left THAT SCENE in (unless there's a bunch of tits-oot cits for no reason). I look forward to people excusing and praising that, while at the same time gnashing their teeth over a bit of underwear and cleavage in Flesh.

Im really glad ive promised myself not to bother with Dredd.

SBT

I don't have a problem with nudity in the prog, I have a problem with Carter acting like she's in a reader's letter in Fiesta magazine, using her tits and fanny to buy her way out of trouble.

And why have you "promised myself not to bother with Dredd."? Seems utterly ridiculous to me, especially considering (with all due respect) all the other utter tosh you like to watch. As a Dredd fan, surely you want to see it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 April, 2012, 11:50:32 AM
I am glad it's Rated R, and not released trailer soon, as you dont want unfinished trailer?? As that done badly for many movies when they released trailers of unfinished features...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 25 April, 2012, 12:04:11 PM
The film is finished.

It's not like occasions where they release trailers with unfinished effect shots.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 25 April, 2012, 12:06:05 PM
By the way, I just read my last post and it sounds a bit sniffy. Please be assured SBT, I didn't mean to sound disparaging of your tastes. I watch and enjoy a tremendous amount of 'utter tosh' myself.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 April, 2012, 12:14:19 PM
Give them a time, I trust in them...

Cant wait to see it in September.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 12:15:03 PM
Once it's rated trailers can be released and attached to whatever similar films are playing above and below the same rating.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 April, 2012, 12:18:49 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 12:15:03 PM
Once it's rated trailers can be released and attached to whatever similar films are playing above and below the same rating.

That's right.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 25 April, 2012, 12:32:21 PM
Ah,  but the 'tosh' i tend to watch tends to be the type of film i enjoy. Dredd seems to a straightforward action movie that's embarrassed about its sci fi roots. Im not in the least interested in action shooty movies, and have never even seen Die Hard.

And im not specifically a fan of dredd- it's not my favourite prog strip by a long chalk, and much of my fondness for it is based on repetition and familiarity, having read it every week for thirty five years. I dont feel any compulsion to see the movie, much as i dont need to play a dredd videogame or read a dredd novel- though i might do so from time to time. I think the only 2000AD strip id be compelled to see at the cinema if they made a movie, would be Slaine.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 25 April, 2012, 12:40:31 PM
I'm a bit disappointed with a high certificate myself.

Yes Dredd is violent, often amusingly so, but that always tended to be an additional extra for me.

I could quite happily live with a 12A Dredd which could be violent (just not relentlessly so) and could get away with some gore (just not tons - e.g. a Terminator punching [spoiler]a hole through someone's chest to reach a steering wheel and drive a car as seen in [/spoiler] Terminator 3).

Some saucy ladies and beefcake also always welcome in a Dredd strip but complete nudity and/or sex? Again, these were never an essential ingredrient to a Dredd story for me.

Are they using the "adult" content (violence, gore, nudity) to distance themselves from the "comic book movies are for kids"? 

Surely by now, most people are aware that a comic book movie can also be mature and grim (a la Dark Knight*) or relatively mature and fun (a la most recent Marvel output)?

I just don't see the point of excluding a massive potential audience with a high rating.


* Yes, I know there are other examples and the world of superhero movies doesn't begin and end with Nolan but who wouldn't kill for Dark Knight's box office and critical reception.

I'm also disappointed with myself for joining in properly on this thread. I'd previously sworn just to skim read it, laugh and post sarcastic comments as people work themselves up into a frenzy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 25 April, 2012, 12:49:10 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 25 April, 2012, 12:32:21 PM
Ah,  but the 'tosh' i tend to watch tends to be the type of film i enjoy. Dredd seems to a straightforward action movie that's embarrassed about its sci fi roots.

I've not got that impression from any of the magazine articles I've read and images from the film I've seen. Sci-Fi is a broad church and takes in all extremes of the genre and everything in between from stuff like Escape From New York at one end and Solaris at the other.

The comic strip is pretty much dominated by action so I don't see any contradiction in the film's depiction.

Still, the R rating is good news-so roll on the trailer and the eventual movie!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 25 April, 2012, 01:03:53 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 25 April, 2012, 12:40:31 PM
I'm a bit disappointed with a high certificate myself.


I could quite happily live with a 12A Dredd which could be violent (just not relentlessly so) and could get away with some gore (just not tons - e.g. a Terminator punching [spoiler]a hole through someone's chest to reach a steering wheel and drive a car as seen in [/spoi



Surely by now, most people are aware that a comic book movie can also be mature and grim (a la Dark Knight*) or relatively mature and fun (a la most recent Marvel output)?

I just don't see the point of excluding a massive potential audience with a high rating.




The days of Terminator getting a 12A are long gone and that rating seems to be something of a glaring anomaly-considering T3 was an R in the states.
The BBFC seem to be far more conservative of late snipping footage from several high profile movies to receive a 12A- The Hunger Games and The Woman In Black.
There was a lot of contention with The Dark Knight's 12A rating and 'Rises' could face pressure to be cut.

I'd rather the UK gets an uncut 15 certificate than face being butchered at the hands of the BBFC- it was bad enough with the pointless cuts made to the first Judge Dredd film.
I'd rather see the film as it was intended to be seen and I don't see a 15 cert as anyway damaging (if that's what it gets in the UK)-in fact the kudos gained from being one of the few R/15 movies in a sea of 12A/PG-13 superhero movies could work to its advantage and attract an audience it wouldn't of otherwise.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 25 April, 2012, 01:04:29 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 25 April, 2012, 12:40:31 PM
I'm a bit disappointed with a high certificate myself.

If the 'R' rating translates to a 15 rather than an 18 this side of the pond, I'd be happy with that. 15 rated films nowadays can well cover the brutality and nastiness required for a film such as this while still providing a limit to prevent it going overboard- a good thing to me. (Not that I'd complain at an 18 cert. either.)

Come to think of it, a good proportion of 15 rated films nowadays would get an 18 in past years.

That being said as long as the story is good and it keeps the required level of action, I'd be happy enough with a 12a too. You don't need excessive gore for a good sci-fi action film. I suspect, if nothing else, the themes of [spoiler]drug abuse[/spoiler] would keep the certification pretty high though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 25 April, 2012, 01:09:29 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 25 April, 2012, 01:03:53 PM
The days of Terminator getting a 12A are long gone and that rating seems to be something of a glaring anomaly-considering T3 was an R in the states.

I was quite shocked at watching X-Men:First Class the other day seeing that [spoiler]Wolverine cameo. Hearing him tell Magneto and Xavier to "Go Drokk themselves."[/spoiler]*  It was a very funny but in a 12A film?

Mind you, pretty much everything else in the film is well within that certification.

*Another word might have been used.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 April, 2012, 01:13:39 PM
12A??

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/usSn30h9XWg/0.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 25 April, 2012, 01:15:47 PM
These are questions for anyone who read the script...

[spoiler]Isn't the 'drug use' in the ratings a fake drug, and wasn't it like an asthma inhaler?[/spoiler]Isn't the 'drug use' in the ratings a fake drug, and wasn't it like an asthma inhaler?

[spoiler]I'm assuming the 'sexual content' is the bit where we see inside anderson's head and she has that mental battle with the prisoner they have? Personally I though that was a really shit scene. Also I didn't like the kiss at the end, seemed a bit soppy for dredd[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 25 April, 2012, 01:16:41 PM
Woops!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 25 April, 2012, 01:35:11 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 25 April, 2012, 01:09:29 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 25 April, 2012, 01:03:53 PM
The days of Terminator getting a 12A are long gone and that rating seems to be something of a glaring anomaly-considering T3 was an R in the states.

I was quite shocked at watching X-Men:First Class the other day seeing that [spoiler]Wolverine cameo. Hearing him tell Magneto and Xavier to "Go Drokk themselves."[/spoiler]*  It was a very funny but in a 12A film?

Mind you, pretty much everything else in the film is well within that certification.

*Another word might have been used.

A 12A film is generally allowed one "Fuck" in the UK (especially if used in a humerous context) and at a push two. Of course if you're The King's Speach you're allowed a fuck about every two minutes! In the verbal sense obviously.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 25 April, 2012, 01:47:14 PM
QuoteDredd seems to a straightforward action movie that's embarrassed about its sci fi roots.

I'm calling bullshit on that - from what I've seen and heard, DREDD isn't shying away from it's sci-fi roots at all. The film features [spoiler]futuristic city blocks, mutants with psychic powers and fictional, time-distorting drugs[/spoiler].

It may have scaled back the city and dropped several other sci-fi tropes but this is more than likely down to budgetary concerns than anything else. The makers of DREDD have also evidently stripped away the more esoteric/eccentric aspects of the source material, but name a comic movie adaptation that hasn't done this.

And you know full well that you'll be going to see this at the cinema just like the rest of us.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 25 April, 2012, 01:54:25 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 25 April, 2012, 01:13:39 PM
12A??

I didn't say I expected it to be 12A (it's pretty clear with the R rating it won't be). Just that it wouldn't be a bad thing if it was.

As I said 15 would be preferable for me. But as long as it's a well told well presented story which gets the original comic... I don't much care about the certification.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 April, 2012, 02:12:21 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 25 April, 2012, 01:54:25 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 25 April, 2012, 01:13:39 PM
12A??

I didn't say I expected it to be 12A (it's pretty clear with the R rating it won't be). Just that it wouldn't be a bad thing if it was.

As I said 15 would be preferable for me. But as long as it's a well told well presented story which gets the original comic... I don't much care about the certification.

No worries, it just like edited version of Predator or Terminator for kids.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 02:19:02 PM
A real Dredd film can never be a 12A, he's lawman with a gun that fires 6 types of bullets that eventually end up in perps bodies or blowing things up. 15/R-rating is as it should be according to the censor terms. It's not even an 18/NC17 and a few scenes with only a few people getting plugged and some blood can stop a 12A.

If 70's/80's Dredd stories were directly translated to film from the comics -without changes to violence levels- they'd be 15s. We got away with reading them because it was a comic set in the distant future -more attention was focused on video nasties anyway- and that excuse doesn't wash with film censors.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 25 April, 2012, 02:24:16 PM
QuoteA real Dredd film can never be a 12A.

Strongly agree. I think it's mental that some people think such a thing as a kid-friendly Dredd film would be possible. Superhero films like X Men First Class and The Dark Knight get away with a lot of violence because there are clear moral lines drawn - the heroes of the film almost never kill anyone. A Dredd who isn't judge, jury and executioner isn't Dredd in my book. You'd end up with something like Lawman of the Future - a watered down pastiche.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 02:24:58 PM
One way around these issues -depending on film content- would be to have a version cut for kids shown only during the day and an uncut version shown in the evening. This would also allow more people to see films they otherwise couldn't.

Obviously this would only be done for certain crossover films, even a film like Prometheus could get a lower rating but not films like Irreversible or Ichi the Killer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 25 April, 2012, 02:33:59 PM
Quote from: radiator on 25 April, 2012, 02:24:16 PM
QuoteA real Dredd film can never be a 12A.

Strongly agree. I think it's mental that some people think such a thing as a kid-friendly Dredd film would be possible. Superhero films like X Men First Class and The Dark Knight get away with a lot of violence because there are clear moral lines drawn - the heroes of the film almost never kill anyone. A Dredd who isn't judge, jury and executioner isn't Dredd in my book. You'd end up with something like Lawman of the Future - a watered down pastiche.

Hmmm - Xmen 2 seemed to have wolverine getting pretty stabby on those special forces that raid the school.

How many people does Indiana Jones off?

Not saying I disagree about a 15 rating, but I don't think it's quite as clear-cut and for a long while, Dredd was pulled back from being an executioner because it was unpalatable in a kids comic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 April, 2012, 02:35:16 PM
Quote from: radiator on 25 April, 2012, 02:24:16 PM
QuoteA real Dredd film can never be a 12A.

Strongly agree. I think it's mental that some people think such a thing as a kid-friendly Dredd film would be possible. Superhero films like X Men First Class and The Dark Knight get away with a lot of violence because there are clear moral lines drawn - the heroes of the film almost never kill anyone. A Dredd who isn't judge, jury and executioner isn't Dredd in my book. You'd end up with something like Lawman of the Future - a watered down pastiche.

Good example, RoboCop: The Series, lack of violence that in first two RoboCop films.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 25 April, 2012, 02:42:51 PM
I think people can get killed a lot in 12a but it's if the kills are gory then it is a higher rating. The above mentioned wolverine in x-men 2 all his kills had no blood.

Another example is the recent Prometheus trailers. The US version when Noomi Rapace is staggering around in her under garments she is covered in blue stuff, but in the UK trailer she is covered in blood. Which leaves me to believe that Prometheus UK will be a gorier cut then the US.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 02:44:41 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 25 April, 2012, 02:33:59 PM
Not saying I disagree about a 15 rating, but I don't think it's quite as clear-cut and for a long while, Dredd was pulled back from being an executioner because it was unpalatable in a kids comic.

He still shot people though, the exectutioner role was played down but he still pursued perps and shot them.

I think it's also who Dredd is and what he represents combined with shooting people is part of the dilemma. I also couldn't imagine a 12A Judge Death squeezing people's hearts. Wasn't Temple of Doom later cut?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 02:48:57 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 25 April, 2012, 02:42:51 PM
I think people can get killed a lot in 12a but it's if the kills are gory then it is a higher rating. The above mentioned wolverine in x-men 2 all his kills had no blood.


They couldn't even show blood spurting from the Ringwraith's steed getting it's neck chopped in LOTR and that was a fictional creature.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 25 April, 2012, 03:03:36 PM
QuoteXmen 2 seemed to have wolverine getting pretty stabby

That's why I said almost never, and a lot depends on tone and context.

In that context, Wolverine was defending children from evil, faceless troopers. That's a very different proposition than Dredd blowing a jaywalker's kneecaps off. Dredd's a violent, fascist thug who kills dozens of people every day and his actions aren't always easy to defend - I don't think the filmmakers could square that circle without making huge compromises to what the character is.

I have a problem in general with explicit though bloodless violence (as in The Dark Knight and Inception) - find it a bit weird and creepier than showing blood, but that's another discussion I guess.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 03:07:52 PM
Consider how tame Dredd '95 actually is -some would say it's at the level a Dredd film should be, I don't- and that got an R-rating despite its best efforts not to. Straddling the 12a/15 appeal was completely detrimental to an all ready shizoid film that couldn't decide what Dredd the character was supposed to be.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 25 April, 2012, 03:28:30 PM
It's not just about gore though, it's also about imitability - I would say that stabbings are more problematic than shootings. I've been constantly surprised how much the big studios get away with at 12A- the pencil in the eye in TDK for example.

The Temple of Doom stuff got cut a lot more over here - not sure if it was ever cut for the US. The sacrificed guy burning goes on a lot longer.

Obviously Spielberg gets away with a lot. Raiders has impalements, headshots, minced by propellors, head explosions/melting.

Anyway, I don't see much point in pandering to the 12A bunch, but I don't really see the point of purposely aiming for an R or 18 either.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 03:45:33 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 25 April, 2012, 03:28:30 PM
I don't see much point in pandering to the 12A bunch, but I don't really see the point of purposely aiming for an R or 18 either.


It'll be either one or the other regardless, that's why I think R/15 is perfect for Dredd, there's just enough leeway to get away with enough and that's seems to be what they've done.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 25 April, 2012, 03:58:02 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 02:44:41 PMHe still shot people though, the exectutioner role was played down but he still pursued perps and shot them.
Wasn't there something in Lawman of the Future that stated there was no death penalty in MC-1, or am I misremembering? I recall the comic somewhat relaxed that stance towards the end of the run, but early issues were very careful regarding violence and morals.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 25 April, 2012, 04:39:13 PM
If it's been given an 'R' for reasons including "sexuality", then are we agreeing its safe to assume "that scene" has been shot and included in the cut? I cant offhand remember anything else in the script that would warrant it. If "that scene" is in it, it will get an '18' from the BBFC, simply due to the tone of that specific sequence. Or it'll be removed/trimmed back for a '15'. The volume of drug alone guarantees the lower of the two ratings.
It's hard to talk about this without treading on spoiler toes isnt it?

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 April, 2012, 04:46:47 PM
Yes to kept it spoilers here, as I DONT READ the script, I am sure many others as well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 25 April, 2012, 04:39:13 PM
If it's been given an 'R' for reasons including "sexuality", then are we agreeing its safe to assume "that scene" has been shot and included in the cut?


You'll just have to go and see it to find out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 April, 2012, 05:04:22 PM
Looks like a tie-in with McDonalds or Burger King is out of the picture then  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 25 April, 2012, 05:21:27 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 April, 2012, 05:04:22 PM
Looks like a tie-in with McDonalds or Burger King is out of the picture then  :'(

Yeah, but what about Sugar Puffs?  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 April, 2012, 05:31:30 PM
I haven't eaten them since  :sick:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 25 April, 2012, 05:34:35 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 April, 2012, 05:31:30 PM
I haven't eaten them since  :sick:

:lol:

I never ate them! Not even when collecting the stickers!

Now an Umpty candy bar? I'll have some of them!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 25 April, 2012, 05:35:07 PM
Wonder if product placement would feature though. Be good to see a few Otto Sump adverts around the place [spoiler]not that were likely to see much of the meg by all accounts[/spoiler].
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 25 April, 2012, 05:42:09 PM
There's some graffiti in the film that references the comic, if I'm not mistaken. There was some pictures reproduced in one of the threads somewhere.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 25 April, 2012, 06:02:25 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 25 April, 2012, 05:21:27 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 April, 2012, 05:04:22 PM
Looks like a tie-in with McDonalds or Burger King is out of the picture then  :'(

Yeah, but what about Sugar Puffs?  ;)

You never know... That Clown will do anything for money...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 25 April, 2012, 06:30:48 PM
There was a picture of a Hondo-style noodle stand, as I recall.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 25 April, 2012, 06:31:16 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 25 April, 2012, 06:02:25 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 25 April, 2012, 05:21:27 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 April, 2012, 05:04:22 PM
Looks like a tie-in with McDonalds or Burger King is out of the picture then  :'(

Yeah, but what about Sugar Puffs?  ;)

You never know... That Clown will do anything for money...

Actually Dredd versus The Honey Monster in the Cursed Earth has got potential!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 25 April, 2012, 06:42:02 PM
http://hiexcomics.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12/more-dredd-set-pics.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 25 April, 2012, 06:45:36 PM
I bloody love sugar puffs, me. Except i dont have the proper ones, but the morrisons cheaper knock-offs- 'salty queens' or whatever they're called.

Oh, and i feel i must clarify: i will see dredd- when it's less than a fiver in hmv or tesco. And i dont mean that snarkily- that's my criteria for buying anything these days. Seeing as im a comic-geek with a morbid fascination for movie adaptations, who will givany old shit a go just to see what they did to it, i do wonder though just how cheap Superman Returns, Elektra, Catwoman, Jonah Hex and Green Lantern have to get before i'll buy them seeing as i could pick them all up for one-fifty each (or five for a fiver) in town right now...

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 25 April, 2012, 07:01:55 PM
Much as I hate Superman Returns, it actually has a lot to recommend it, it just goes out of its way to paint Superman as a stalker, date rapist, and deadbeat dad.  Based on your past form, SBT, I can see you enjoying Elektra, though: it's cheap and daft, but utterly single-minded, plus the 'making of' featurette is unintentionally hilarious when the actress playing the female antagonist - who is definitely not a truly terrible Typhoid Mary knock-off - opens her mouth to talk about her character.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 April, 2012, 07:11:02 PM
He'll be round my house to watch it on Blu-ray  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 07:38:43 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 25 April, 2012, 07:01:55 PM
Much as I hate Superman Returns, it actually has a lot to recommend it, it just goes out of its way to paint Superman as a stalker, date rapist, and deadbeat dad.


If all that was really in it, I'd watch it again. Though I must admit, in that excised Return to Krypton scene, I was rather thrown by Singer's direction as the camera tracked over Routh's splayed nylon arse-cheeks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 08:02:38 PM
Dredd will be released Friday 7th September rather than the 21st in the UK.


http://www.filmdates.co.uk/films/2146-dredd/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 April, 2012, 08:05:45 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 08:02:38 PM
Dredd will be released Friday 7th September rather than the 21st in the UK.


http://www.filmdates.co.uk/films/2146-dredd/

So we watch it before the Americans? And it come here soon than before!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 25 April, 2012, 08:27:31 PM
QuoteA real Dredd film can never be a 12A

I think you could do it. Like I say, the violence is only one aspect of Dredd and is certainly not a MUST HAVE requirement for making a good Dredd story.  Kneecapping Jaywalkers is funny - it doesn't need the blood to make the joke work.

Also Bond also routinely mows down and inventively kills (then puns) dozens of bad guys (to death!) and he's hardly ever troubled the 15 rating ("License to Kill" aside - and that looks tame these days).

I'd rather have good inventive bloodless fights (end of Fellowship of the Ring) rather than exploding heads any day of the week. 

And that's not pandering to anybody - I genuinely don't think GORE and VIOLENCE are what has kept Dredd going all this time and certainly aren't what make John Wagner sit down at his typewriter everyday (but I'm prepared to be corrected on that).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 08:34:35 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 25 April, 2012, 08:27:31 PM
QuoteA real Dredd film can never be a 12A

I think you could do it.


but why should you need to?

There may be ways and means of hiding things but I don't ever remember the comic version of Dredd feeling the need to hide violence, shooting people -or the odd nudity- so why should the film be less explicit? The type of film you're talking about would be less violent that the Stallone film -also R-rated- and that wasn't particularly violent- less so than the comic even.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 25 April, 2012, 09:03:54 PM
Bond, LoTR - they're not suitable comparisons imo - much more fantastical tonally.

I just think a Dredd film that reflects the subject matter with any degree of accuracy is going to be landed with a mature certificate no matter what. I agree that there are far more violent comics out there than Dredd (I don't actually think of Dredd as an especially violent comic), but I also just think there's something about the premise that isn't compatible with a PG/12A rated movie.

I'm intrigued to see what sort of tone they are going for with the new Robocop movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 09:06:32 PM
Quote from: radiator on 25 April, 2012, 09:03:54 PMI'm intrigued to see what sort of tone they are going for with the new Robocop movie.


Probably going more for volume than tone.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Leigh S on 25 April, 2012, 09:14:34 PM
Quote from: radiator on 25 April, 2012, 09:03:54 PM
Bond, LoTR - they're not suitable comparisons imo - much more fantastical tonally.

I just think a Dredd film that reflects the subject matter with any degree of accuracy is going to be landed with a mature certificate no matter what. I agree that there are far more violent comics out there than Dredd (I don't actually think of Dredd as an especially violent comic), but I also just think there's something about the premise that isn't compatible with a PG/12A rated movie.

I'm intrigued to see what sort of tone they are going for with the new Robocop movie.

Dredd is way more fantastical than Bond or LOTRs.  It isnt always, but on the whole, the setting is way out there - it has aliens, uglys, mutants, robots, crazes....     

I can see where youre coming from in terms of the subject matter, but it didnt overly trouble what was a kids comic with fairly strict and trigger happy managers for the first 10 years.  I suppose putting some of that onto the screen removes a layer of security, but I do wonder if this Dredd is for me.  I suppose it will have to pass a few tests - is Dredd the Dredd from the comic?  Is MegaCity recognisable?  Is it a good film in its own right even if none of the above apply?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 09:19:39 PM
Quote from: Leigh S on 25 April, 2012, 09:14:34 PM
I can see where youre coming from in terms of the subject matter, but it didnt overly trouble what was a kids comic with fairly strict and trigger happy managers for the first 10 years.


I don't believe 80's comics and contemporary film censors are equivalent.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 25 April, 2012, 09:24:58 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 07:38:43 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 25 April, 2012, 07:01:55 PM
Much as I hate Superman Returns, it actually has a lot to recommend it, it just goes out of its way to paint Superman as a stalker, date rapist, and deadbeat dad.


If all that was really in it, I'd watch it again. Though I must admit, in that excised Return to Krypton scene, I was rather thrown by Singer's direction as the camera tracked over Routh's splayed nylon arse-cheeks.

I have not seen this arse-ogling of which you speak, though may have to track it down in the name of science.  The rest is in there, though: Supes shags Lois, then wipes her memory of their sexual encounter and fucks off for five years while Lois finds herself pregnant but doesn't know how it happened.  Later Supes comes home and listens to Lois and her family (which he later breaks up) talking about him with his super-powers, then sneaks into her son's bedroom for some alone time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 09:29:27 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 25 April, 2012, 09:24:58 PM

I have not seen this arse-ogling of which you speak, though may have to track it down in the name of science. 


Super-flue as 05:11


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L254X_Mt5YA



Quote from: Professah Byah on 25 April, 2012, 09:24:58 PM
Supes shags Lois, then wipes her memory of their sexual encounter and fucks off for five years while Lois finds herself pregnant but doesn't know how it happened.  Later Supes comes home and listens to Lois and her family (which he later breaks up) talking about him with his super-powers, then sneaks into her son's bedroom for some alone time.


Well, he isn't human.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 25 April, 2012, 09:36:29 PM
Quotebut why should you need to?

I'm thinking it from the other angle: Why does a Dredd movie NEED to be a 15 or 18? Plenty of brilliant, brilliant parts of the comic aren't. It's not an essential element.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 09:42:29 PM
I'd say because first and foremost Dredd's a lawman with a fairly nifty gun that fires variant ammo, a bike that has cannons, a day-stick, a boot-knife etc. and therefore is essential but also, even though all these things are all ready present in the comic, a film should push certain things comics can't and people do expect something a little more with Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 09:45:24 PM
To not have him use his 'tools' in the intended way and to try and hide their 'effects' for no reason other than a silly rating would be like stopping a superheroes from using their powers.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 25 April, 2012, 09:47:38 PM
12A is possible... But 15 makes it more likely to contain a good mix of things that are in the comic that would seem very A-Team (TV, not seen movie re-hash) in 12A.

Remember A-Team, all that shooting, cars crashed and we always saw bad guys crawling out the wrecks dusting themselves down.  They did that so it could be shown at family viewing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 25 April, 2012, 10:10:29 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 25 April, 2012, 08:27:31 PM
License to Kill" aside - and that looks tame these days

http://youtu.be/Aj4A_l6hJyw (http://youtu.be/Aj4A_l6hJyw)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 25 April, 2012, 10:52:51 PM
This needs to be and should be a pure R rated movie. Not really up on U. K.  rating standards but a 12 or 15 is iffy!!! An old school (R)  restricted that gets banned by its own director is what's needed!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 25 April, 2012, 11:06:54 PM
To not have him use his 'tools' in the intended way and to try and hide their 'effects' for no reason other than a silly rating would be like stopping a superheroes from using their power

No it's nothing like that at all. And it's not a silly rating - not if the comic has plenty of brilliant stories where graphic violence isn't the be all and end all of it and could be filmed at that rating.

Anyways, I was just asking. Y'all seem hung up on it needing to be violent. Being violent and 18 won't automatically make it better but it will automatically reduce the potential audience.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 11:16:49 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 25 April, 2012, 11:06:54 PM
No it's nothing like that at all. And it's not a silly rating - not if the comic has plenty of brilliant stories where graphic violence isn't the be all and end all of it and could be filmed at that rating.

Anyways, I was just asking. Y'all seem hung up on it needing to be violent. Being violent and 18 won't automatically make it better but it will automatically reduce the potential audience.


Most Dredd stories aren't suitable to be films and it's generally the ones that contain Dredd in his role as Judge, Jury and Executioner that draw interest as potential films, not Otto Sump or the Diary of Adrian Cockroach.

It's not 18's, it's R-rated: Under 17 Requires Accompanying Parent or Adult Guardian or the equivalent of 15s.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 25 April, 2012, 11:20:04 PM
Quote from: Trout on 24 April, 2012, 07:04:32 PM
People who come to this forum just to post about the Dredd film: please buy the bloody comic. It's really good.

Thanks.
Oh. Is it still going?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 25 April, 2012, 11:24:27 PM
Gore won't make the story any smarter, it'll just appeal to a more easily-pleased punter, and of all the great PG films in existence, I'm not sure which ones could have been improved by the addition of graphic gunshot wounds.
A good story will survive not having any F-bombs or disembowelings in it - a bad one not so much.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 11:32:12 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 25 April, 2012, 11:24:27 PM
Gore won't make the story any smarter, it'll just appeal to a more easily-pleased punter, and of all the great PG films in existence, I'm not sure which ones could have been improved by the addition of graphic gunshot wounds.
A good story will survive not having any F-bombs or disembowelings in it - a bad one not so much.


There is a certain expectation with a character like Dredd -as there is with RoboCop- who is a state sponsored fascist with an iconic gun and armoured bike, that there'l be at least some level of violence that isn't bloodless. I'm not a splatter/gore fan at all but I believe Dredd's appeal at its base level is cracking the heads of the lawless and if a certain quotient wasn't there, at least in the first film, something would be amiss.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 April, 2012, 11:46:03 PM
Don't know why you want it be kids-friendly film. I remember I read that Matt Damon wasn't happy that Bourne films in 12A as it represent violence in it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 26 April, 2012, 12:04:54 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 11:32:12 PMThere is a certain expectation with a character like Dredd -as there is with RoboCop- who is a state sponsored fascist with an iconic gun and armoured bike, that there'l be at least some level of violence that isn't bloodless.

Rooster Cogburn is a mean SOB in both versions of True Grit and the addition of more graphic violence in the second version didn't make him any tougher.  Likewise, the lack of gore isn't what made Robocop: The Series so bad, and the violence-free Lawman of the Future wasn't a gash comic because Dredd didn't splatter people in it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm old enough to be able to watch whatever version they come up with, but I don't buy that it has to be a gorefest.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 April, 2012, 12:07:37 AM
Dredd is the meanest mother who ever lived and has no problem with shooting criminals. 12a could never be an option.

In fact, I am pretty sure right from the get go they said this was going to be a hard R.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 26 April, 2012, 12:09:15 AM
Rooster Cogburn. HEH.

(http://cdn.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_32801/subcat_101615/acetruck469.jpg)





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 April, 2012, 12:11:54 AM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 26 April, 2012, 12:04:54 AM
but I don't buy that it has to be a gorefest.


It doesn't have to be a gore-fest to get an R either.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 April, 2012, 12:13:21 AM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 26 April, 2012, 12:04:54 AM
Rooster Cogburn is a mean SOB in both versions of True Grit and the addition of more graphic violence in the second version didn't make him any tougher.


Rooster Cogburn doesn't live in Mega-City-One.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 26 April, 2012, 01:51:54 AM
That's why it has a crime problem.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 26 April, 2012, 04:38:40 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2012, 08:02:38 PM
Dredd will be released Friday 7th September rather than the 21st in the UK.
http://www.filmdates.co.uk/films/2146-dredd/

Hope that's official, good scoop Joe dude :thumbsup:...

Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 April, 2012, 12:07:37 AM
Dredd is the meanest mother who ever lived and has no problem with shooting criminals. 12a could never be an option.
In fact, I am pretty sure right from the get go they said this was going to be a hard R.

Indeed they did, and kudos to DNA Films for staying true to their word concerning the level of violence in Dredd, you simply CANNOT do the character justice (no pun intended) onscreen by toning down the violence, it's what gives JD that visceral edge that I thought was just the coolest thing ever when I started reading the comic back in the mid-1980's, always felt should be part of any movie adaptation, and thankfully is for this one...

Learn the lesson(s) of the RoboCop  and Conan the Barbarian  franchises; classic first installments, were extremely violent and very much R-rated...  followed by crappy sequels/spin-offs that toned down violence for PG-13 ratings (RoboCop 2 's R-rating notwithstanding, but still crappy), thereby emasculating the character(s), blunting the edginess of those worlds, and pretty much killing off any further installments, 'nuff said...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: malkymac on 26 April, 2012, 07:44:06 AM
There were not many Garth Ennis Dredds that i really enjoyed but there was one called 'Firepower' drawn by Colin MacNeill that concerned Dredd taking out a gang of mutants in 3 minutes.

If that story had not shown graphically the effects of the bullets and bike cannon then it would have been a waste of time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 26 April, 2012, 11:50:54 AM
There's a certain bleakness about Dredd - a flippancy to it's attitude regarding life and death and a black streak in it's humour - and it's been that way since day one. Quite often, those on the receiving end of Dredd's instant justice don't 'deserve' what they get - it's all integral to the appeal of the character. Fine in a comic - more problematic to portray in a live-action movie.

I'll say again - I agree that a Dredd film doesn't need to be ultra-violent, but I do believe that even if the filmmakers tried to play it safe and aim for a bloodless 12A/PG13 rating, they could well end up overshooting it simply because of the concept - as was the case with the Stallone version - that film very much pulled it's punches but still got lumbered with an R/15 rating. With that in mind, the producers may as well go all out and have a bit of fun with it (and as most of Garland's films have some pretty inventively nasty gore, I'm keen to see what he's come up with for this!).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 26 April, 2012, 01:51:16 PM
Whenever Dredd gets too violent in the comics, I close my eyes.  :|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 26 April, 2012, 01:53:29 PM
Saw Lockout last night at the flicks, I'd never even heard of it but there was Guy Pierce on the poster and Luc Bessons name too so we'd thought we'd give it a try.

As films go it was definately a Meh rating,a good plot idea (reminded me of Harry 20), some very good lines in it ,but poorly executed.The reason I bring it up is that I had a look at it's budget which came in at $30 mill ($10 mill less than Dredd), but despite this the set designs were good (but limited in scope and number) and most (not all) the SFX were pretty solid.Dredd having $10 mill more and making it go farer in South Africa should put on a better display (hopefully with a better sfx company too), but I though that it gave me a benchmark of what to expect with Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 April, 2012, 06:59:07 PM
Posters for The Expendables 2 is out today, it's Lionsgate film, as it out in Summer, so Dredd's would be soon...

http://www.impawards.com/2012/expendables_two_ver6.html (http://www.impawards.com/2012/expendables_two_ver6.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 26 April, 2012, 07:50:23 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 26 April, 2012, 01:51:16 PM
Whenever Dredd gets too violent in the comics, I close my eyes.  :|

LMAO

I just read faster... Then go back a page or two to check I read it right.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 27 April, 2012, 01:32:16 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 26 April, 2012, 01:53:29 PM
The reason I bring it up is that I had a look at it's budget which came in at $30 mill ($10 mill less than Dredd), but despite this the set designs were good (but limited in scope and number) and most (not all) the SFX were pretty solid.Dredd having $10 mill more and making it go farer in South Africa should put on a better display (hopefully with a better sfx company too), but I though that it gave me a benchmark of what to expect with Dredd.

Dredd has a $45m budget, Sherman dude, so that's a whole $15m more, and considering most of Dredd is set in a residential block, plus the fact it was cost-effectively shot in South Africa, I think it's fair to predict we're going to get not just a great looking movie, but a fantastic looking JUDGE DREDD movie...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 27 April, 2012, 01:46:20 AM
... forget to mention one more thing, if Dredd has been alredy rated by the MPAA, anyone got an inkling when we ahould see a similar classification from the BBFC?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 27 April, 2012, 07:23:04 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 27 April, 2012, 01:46:20 AM
... forget to mention one more thing, if Dredd has been alredy rated by the MPAA, anyone got an inkling when we ahould see a similar classification from the BBFC?

Thanks Beaky.Out of interest and I think someone mentioned it earlier, when does the running time normally come out for a film.If it's got a rating surely that means a final cut has been made and a running time firmly established (or could that still change?)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dudley on 27 April, 2012, 08:17:28 AM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 25 April, 2012, 11:24:27 PM
Gore won't make the story any smarter, it'll just appeal to a more easily-pleased punter, and of all the great PG films in existence, I'm not sure which ones could have been improved by the addition of graphic gunshot wounds.

Beethoven?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 27 April, 2012, 09:33:12 AM
Quote from: Dudley on 27 April, 2012, 08:17:28 AM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 25 April, 2012, 11:24:27 PM
Gore won't make the story any smarter, it'll just appeal to a more easily-pleased punter, and of all the great PG films in existence, I'm not sure which ones could have been improved by the addition of graphic gunshot wounds.

Beethoven?

You're thinking of Cujo!

Oh, and anything with Adam Sandler in it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 April, 2012, 03:11:43 AM
It's a shame they didn't keep Superbutt's return to Krypton and excise Lois's entire family from the film (along with emo Lois). It would've been much better, I think. There was so much wasted potential there.

And yaaaaay for R ratings. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 29 April, 2012, 05:39:52 AM
Does anyone else here think that should Dredd do gangbusters business at the box-office, and they get to do the two sequels they're hoping to do, that they should concentrate exclusively on Mega-City One as the setting(s) and pretty much ignore the Cursed Earth?  I always thought the Cursed Earth-based stories were always far less interesting compared to the Big Meg-based ones (especially those dealing with the general day-to-day of life in MC-1), and should Dredd get a sequel(s), would be infinitely preferable to focus on life in the sprawling, crime-plagued, and just plain batpoop-crazy megalopolis... I think the general narrative thrust of something like Block Mania  or Graveyard Shift  would be ideal for one of the sequels (gritty, relatively realistic, able to show a representative strata of Mega-City life), but still hoping for Death in any potential Dredd sequel...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 29 April, 2012, 10:33:38 AM
 Ah, we're back to sequels. :D
I agree with Beaky on the Cursed Earth, there are enough stories to be told within the city walls without involving the outside (Dredd) world.
I'm not sure if the Block Mania storyline would work on the big screen, stripped down it is basically lots of people fighting because the water supply has been tampered with by an outside force, the judges are just caught in the middle. If the outside force was just a 'Joe Cit' gone futsie, :think: ok. But to have the assailant as a sov assassin and lead into The Apocalypse War (which might be great for us fans) But could confuse the greater cinema audience, Is Dredd a cop or a soldier?
The Graveyard Shift could work as the basis for a sequel. Following Dredd over a single night, painting a fuller picture of Mega City, showing different crimes in plot threads that intermingle to a climactic conclusion. If I remember rightly Mrs Anderson's little girl is in there somewhere too.
As for Judge Death, I've said that I'd love to see him in this thread before (vote Pygram). But I don't think we'll get the alien superfiend we all know and love in this 'real word' version of Dredd.

Stew.
     
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 29 April, 2012, 11:47:38 AM
Quote from: SKD on 29 April, 2012, 10:33:38 AMI'm not sure if the Block Mania storyline would work on the big screen . . . The Graveyard Shift could work as the basis for a sequel. Following Dredd over a single night, painting a fuller picture of Mega City, showing different crimes in plot threads that intermingle to a climactic conclusion.

By itself, I don't think 'The Graveyard Shift' could sustain a whole film although it might work if conflated with 'Block Mania'. Bringing in the Sov Bloc for a further sequel I'd say would still have the same issue as a Cursed Earth setting (i.e. it's too soon to be exploring life beyond Mega-City One); in which case, a pared-down version of 'The Apocalypse War' might work better if the threat comes from within, perhaps a conflation with AMERICA and 'Total War', the antagonists instead being terrorists.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 29 April, 2012, 05:00:40 PM
I think an original story would be far more effective than borrowing anything directly from the comics for a sequel. The Cursed Earth will probably need to be shown in some fashion if only to show an audience why people would choose to live in a hellhole like a Mega City in the first place.

An updated version of the 2T(Fru)T plague/Block Mania gripping Dredd's city would be more than enough as a concept. Still feel like the more high concept aspects of the strip aren't going to work in this stripped down incarnation. Judge Death's just going to look ridiculous.

[spoiler]Perhaps a sequel in the vein of Magnum Force is alluded to in the leaked script...? Disillusioned and corrupt Judges trying to bend the city to their own form of justice?[/spoiler]

Just a thought...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 29 April, 2012, 07:18:00 PM
Block Mania would be too like this one IMO

City-Def is done

I reckon the sequel should be relating to Chopper
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 29 April, 2012, 07:25:23 PM
For goodness sakes SPOILER TAGS!!!

Some people haven't read the script, some including me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 April, 2012, 07:26:24 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 29 April, 2012, 07:18:00 PM


I reckon the sequel should be relating to Chopper


He could only be a secondary character, wouldn't be enough on his own or with his own story, too slight.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 29 April, 2012, 07:27:41 PM
agreed, Joe.  There would need to be a major antagonist, but having Chopper scrawling as a side story would be cool.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 29 April, 2012, 07:31:20 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 29 April, 2012, 07:25:23 PM
For goodness sakes SPOILER TAGS!!!

Some people haven't read the script, some including me.

If that's in reference to me..I havn't read the script either..but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work it out and my post is hardly a spoiler..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 29 April, 2012, 07:42:45 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 29 April, 2012, 07:27:41 PM
agreed, Joe.  There would need to be a major antagonist, but having Chopper scrawling as a side story would be cool.

I guess they could actually do the Oz story, just without, er, actually going to Oz.  Combine it with the original Midnight Surfer story and have the Supersurf taking place inside Mega-City One, with Judd and his clone troop invasion as main threat.  Which has the bonus of being useful background setup for Necropolis and/or other clone-related plots in a potential third film.

...Man, the Dead Man reveal could be awesome in a film version.  Everybody who comes into the comics late kind of has to have the twist spoiled for them so they know to pick up the Dead Man TPB, but for the movie audience you could play it as a genuine surprise.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 29 April, 2012, 07:48:22 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 29 April, 2012, 07:31:20 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 29 April, 2012, 07:25:23 PM
For goodness sakes SPOILER TAGS!!!

Some people haven't read the script, some including me.

If that's in reference to me..I havn't read the script either..but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work it out and my post is hardly a spoiler..

OK far comment if you haven't read the script but it doesn't sound like speculation.  It sounds like you know Cit Def are in it.  If you know they are in and say it, that is a spoiler.

Unless the thread is marked as a spoiler thread there really shouldn't be any spoilers.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 30 April, 2012, 01:55:50 AM
Quote from: SKD on 29 April, 2012, 10:33:38 AM
The Graveyard Shift could work as the basis for a sequel. Following Dredd over a single night, painting a fuller picture of Mega City, showing different crimes in plot threads that intermingle to a climactic conclusion. If I remember rightly Mrs Anderson's little girl is in there somewhere too.

That's EXACTLY what I had in mind, SKD dude, where the upcoming film largely represents a microcosm of the larger MC-1 society vis-a-vis a residential block, the potential sequel (with a larger budget, in real terms) could show the actual full strata of MC-1 society as Dredd, Anderson, and possibly even Hershey and Giant, take on the night shift from hell (that might or might not include Mr Death) that makes the Peach Trees incident look like a Sunday afternoon picnic by comparison... if I may make a comparison to clarify my point; take Night of the Living Dead, which was largely a microcosm of the emerging zombie plague set in a rural farmhouse, whilst Dawn of The Dead showed the full strata of that society crumbling under the relentless zombie plague, from the inner city chaos to the rural backwoods' redneck hunting partys and national guard patrols and onto a certain enclosed shopping mall (with even a roving biker gang thrown in for good measure)...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 02 May, 2012, 12:46:48 PM
Quick interview with Stuart Ford (Dredd Exec Prod)
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=58904

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 02 May, 2012, 02:58:40 PM
He seemed quietly confident.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 02 May, 2012, 03:01:43 PM
Ah. Turns out that Drokk album was slated to be the soundtrack for the movie at one point. (Not anymore.) Good interview here.

http://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/features/301804-geoff_barrow_talks_drokk_2000ad_as_important_me_public_enemy

- So, just to be clear, there's no connection between DROKK and the forthcoming movie Dredd, with Karl Urban?

- "No, there's no connection now, no."

- That was the first thing that struck us, listening to DROKK – how powerful the music you and Ben created would be, if twinned with the right visual, artistic interpretation of the Judge Dredd universe. Was there any point at which you were tempted to try and get in touch with the filmmakers, and see if anything could be done to join the two projects?

- "Well, basically, that was the film we were working on. It didn't work out, for lots of different reasons. Because the film's still in production, and there's massive secrecy around the project, I'd rather not go into it. One thing I can say is that it was an absolutely brilliant experience: I became good friends with [Dredd script writer] Alex Garland. The film is going to be fucking brilliant. Categorically, there is absolutely no bad feeling between us and any of the filmmakers. It was just a project which didn't work out, but Ben and I decided to carry on with the project in a different form. But the relationship with the film-makers and with Alex is so good, that there's no way I would want people to think there was any kind of problem between us."

- Is there any small part of you that secretly hopes that, once the film's out, someone might take it and remix it, using the music you created for DROKK?

- "No, not at all! It's not that kind of feeling that I have towards the film, y'know what I mean? The only feelings I have towards the film are massively positive. It's not like they didn't use our music, and we're angry or disappointed, it's not that kind of vibe. At all. That's all I can really say about it. But I am massively looking forward to the film."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 May, 2012, 03:15:09 PM
Called it:

Quote
Re: DROKK
« Reply #80 on: 11 March, 2012, 02:28:10 PM »

Just a thought - but I read an article that mentioned that the duo behind DROKK were originally working on a film soundtrack that never came to fruition.

Perhaps they were originally slated to work on the actual DREDD soundtrack, but it never happened for some reason, and DROKK is the result of their work?

Good that there's no bad feeling though, and this quote:

Quote"The film is going to be fucking brilliant."

...makes me very happy!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 02 May, 2012, 03:16:13 PM
I get the feeling anyone withing 20 miles of the Dredd production had to sign a NDA so watertight that a ducks arse would seem leaky by comparison.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 02 May, 2012, 06:20:04 PM
For those whose interweb has Youtubeaphobia...

'Dredd' is dark and gritty, says executive producer
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a379416/dredd-is-dark-and-gritty-says-executive-producer.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 02 May, 2012, 10:41:14 PM
It's funny how they keep saying they are being true to the character by him keeping his hemlet on, but in the leaked script [spoiler]He gives Anderson the kiss of life, which doesn't seem very Dredd like, and he doesn't use the word creep. [/spoiler] That aside it was pretty spot on though!


I wouldn't say Karl Urbans jaw is 'sqaure' either.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 May, 2012, 10:48:01 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 02 May, 2012, 10:41:14 PM
It's funny how they keep saying they are being true to the character by him keeping his hemlet on, but in the leaked script [spoiler]He gives Anderson the kiss of life, which doesn't seem very Dredd like, and he doesn't use the word creep. [/spoiler] That aside it was pretty spot on though!



[spoiler]So you think he'd let her die? It hasn't cropped up in the progs but doesn't mean it couldn't happen, if he had to, nor do I see it as out-of-character for a fellow judge at least.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 May, 2012, 11:10:35 PM
Post release, I hope we get DVD extras that include different actors audtioning for Dredd -if it exists- then  their reactions to being told the helmet stays put.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 03 May, 2012, 08:17:55 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 02 May, 2012, 03:16:13 PM
I get the feeling anyone withing 20 miles of the Dredd production had to sign a NDA so watertight that a ducks arse would seem leaky by comparison.

Hasn't done much good, secrecy wise, the movie has been leaking like the Titanic since almost day one; the entire script, the Lawmaster, on-set props (we're looking at YOU, Mr van Kesteren :D), post-production footage, etc.  If Dredd does get a sequel, they'll be doing it different next time out, I think they'll just plain shoot any potential leakers (which is fine by me, I don't want to see conceptual drawings and/or unfinished post-production work of Judge Death until DNA Films want us to see him)...

Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 02 May, 2012, 10:41:14 PM
It's funny how they keep saying they are being true to the character by him keeping his hemlet on, but in the leaked script [spoiler]He gives Anderson the kiss of life, which doesn't seem very Dredd like, and he doesn't use the word creep. [/spoiler] That aside it was pretty spot on though!
I wouldn't say Karl Urbans jaw is 'sqaure' either.

Aw c'mon dude, that's very different to THAT kiss in the Stallone debacle, and besides, I think it was Michaelvk that said he doesn't remember reading that scene in the shooting script, so it's entirely likely it was removed during the honing and refining scriptwriting process.  And who cares if Karl Urban's jaw isn't exactly square, I personally think he looks every bit the part from the photos we've seen, and I believe he's just going to own that character once we get to see the actual film, give him a chance dude...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 03 May, 2012, 10:52:46 AM
Re desperation for poster/trailer soon soon soon, I've actually done a 180 and I don't mind waiting now.

When some of you said big movies coming out sooner will be hogging the limelight, you were absolutely right in my case - the latest trailer for Dark Knight for example, has me bouncing with anticipation. And then there's Safe, MIB3, Raid, Ice Age and Prometheus.

And recently, seen Avengers (not big wow, but fun enough) so I'm pretty sated for a while.

Not only don't I mind waiting, but I think they're right to wait. Unless people are Dredd fans, or fans of the actors involved, early promo will get lost among all the better known property.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 May, 2012, 11:11:16 AM
Doesn't Safe (same financiers/distributors as DREDD) come out tomorrow? Slim chance of a teaser with that...?

Otherwise, I expect it'll be late May, or June/July.

In any case, not long to wait now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 May, 2012, 11:14:50 AM
Quote from: radiator on 03 May, 2012, 11:11:16 AM
Doesn't Safe (same financiers/distributors as DREDD) come out tomorrow? Slim chance of a teaser with that...?

Otherwise, I expect it'll be late May, or June/July.

In any case, not long to wait now.

So was Hunger Games and The Cabin in the Woods, but nothing happens, it very unlikely trailer would be with Safe.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 May, 2012, 11:28:03 AM
Hunger Games and Cabin... only share a distributor. Safe and DREDD are both being financed/produced by the same company - IM Global.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 May, 2012, 11:34:34 AM
Quote from: radiator on 03 May, 2012, 11:28:03 AM
Hunger Games and Cabin... only share a distributor. Safe and DREDD are both being financed/produced by the same company - IM Global.

Ooop! Sorry mate. Oh very interesting... mmm....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 May, 2012, 11:43:29 AM
I'm sure the tinternet will be the first place to host a trailer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 03 May, 2012, 01:47:59 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 03 May, 2012, 11:43:29 AM
I'm sure the tinternet will be the first place to host a trailer.

Yup trailers generally come out on the net first these days.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 03 May, 2012, 02:13:43 PM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 03 May, 2012, 08:17:55 AM

And who cares if Karl Urban's jaw isn't exactly square, I personally think he looks every bit the part from the photos we've seen, and I believe he's just going to own that character once we get to see the actual film, give him a chance dude...

I still think he looks good in the pictures, just saying you can't really call his jaw square.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 03 May, 2012, 09:55:29 PM
cant see the harm in a teaser trailer coming out this month! good job we have had the avengers and the dark knight rises trailer and prometheus to get bye!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: weehawk on 04 May, 2012, 04:08:08 AM
...not to mention the new Amazing Spider-Man and the new Expendables 2 trailers!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 04 May, 2012, 07:16:22 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 May, 2012, 11:10:35 PM
Post release, I hope we get DVD extras that include different actors audtioning for Dredd -if it exists- then  their reactions to being told the helmet stays put.

According to IMBd Michael Biehn had auditioned for the lead role.

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 04 May, 2012, 07:45:43 AM
That would have been supercool,hes a little short though but still....geek royalty.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 May, 2012, 08:20:26 AM
He's also had heart-surgery.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 04 May, 2012, 08:32:43 AM
I'm not sure about the validity of that Michael Biehn thing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 04 May, 2012, 09:43:31 AM
Quote from: radiator on 04 May, 2012, 08:32:43 AM
I'm not sure about the validity of that Michael Biehn thing.

http://www.lena-headey.com/career/films/2012_Dredd.php

Lena site says it's so. She wouldn't lie to nerds like us would she?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 04 May, 2012, 09:45:41 AM
That site also lists Carlos Ezquerra as screenwriter.

As it happens, I think Biehn would have been a solid choice - 15-20 years ago - but he's got to be pushing 50 now hasn't he?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 04 May, 2012, 12:07:52 PM
Quote from: radiator on 04 May, 2012, 09:45:41 AM
As it happens, I think Biehn would have been a solid choice - 15-20 years ago - but he's got to be pushing 50 now hasn't he?

Wasnt Stallone pushing 50 when he did Dredd? He seemed to manage ok............
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 04 May, 2012, 12:32:53 PM
Quote from: radiator on 04 May, 2012, 09:45:41 AM
That site also lists Carlos Ezquerra as screenwriter.

Yep, that's why I said "According to IMBd..." You never can be sure. :D

I've not read the script but on the IMBd (them again) cast list, one of the actors is listed as [spoiler]Resyck Man.[/spoiler] I wonder if they mean [spoiler]Resyk[/spoiler]?

Stew. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 04 May, 2012, 12:47:57 PM
That site linked a few pages ago with the new release date had Carlos listed as a writer too. Hell, even if it was a just a single line of dialogue or a storyboard type suggestion (which I guess is more likely), he deserves the name drop anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 05 May, 2012, 12:33:40 AM
I'm basically expecting a teaser one week prior to release. It helps avoid disappointment that way. Plus I've kinda gotten used to the fact they're holding back. It'd be nice to see other promotional material though or merchandise though.

And that Biehn thing sounds off. I don't really see him auditioning for Dredd. He seems like a person they'd either want or they don't.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 May, 2012, 12:49:21 AM
Quote from: SKD on 04 May, 2012, 12:32:53 PM
Quote from: radiator on 04 May, 2012, 09:45:41 AM
That site also lists Carlos Ezquerra as screenwriter.

Yep, that's why I said "According to IMBd..." You never can be sure.



Quote from: Mudcrab on 04 May, 2012, 12:47:57 PM
That site linked a few pages ago with the new release date had Carlos listed as a writer too. Hell, even if it was a just a single line of dialogue or a storyboard type suggestion (which I guess is more likely), he deserves the name drop anyway.




Ezquerra is credited with Wagner as "character creator" under the heading of writers on IMDB with Garland solely credited for screenplay. Not even Wagner is credited ar a writer, consultant, yes. Just an example of one site misinterpreting the info from another.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 May, 2012, 12:14:17 AM
I think he would have made a good dredd. The age would help too I think.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 09 May, 2012, 06:47:12 AM
I had a dream I watched it last night, and it was fucking shite.  Dredd with an East European accent and a bottle of red wine beside his bed, Anderson only introduced at the end as a child in a sort of Minority Report multi-mind group, the whole plot amounting to little more than corruption in the Department resulting in a gratuitous fight to the death with no depth or intelligence whatsoever.  Just as bad as the Stallone one, was the general consensus of the critis who people my imagination.
All I can say is, I'm deeply disappointed that my subconscious has managed to screw up what could have been a great franchise yet again, and if this is the best my subliminal thoughts have to offer I won't be surprised if figmental sales of 2000ad within my id go into serious decline.   
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 May, 2012, 12:06:19 PM
I'll scry the Blu-Ray.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 May, 2012, 12:12:39 PM
Found this odd little variation of that press-pose photograph, some of it looks maybe shopped but it still looks like a different photo from the hard key-lighting, facial expression and position.


(http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2012/05/newjudge_a.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 May, 2012, 12:18:06 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 09 May, 2012, 12:12:39 PM
Found this odd little variation of that press-pose photograph, some of it looks maybe shopped but it still looks like a different photo from the hard key-lighting, facial expression and position.

(http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2012/05/newjudge_a.jpg)

That does looks new! looks like someone take extra photo from this below...

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5PZjY8Ji_SU/TuxzdmjK8RI/AAAAAAAAt6M/aMlPlaquOZE/s400/dredd_urban.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 09 May, 2012, 12:22:28 PM
I don't think those 2 photos were taken in the same location. I imagine Dredd will be adopting that pose almost constantly throughout the film so we'll see many similar pictures.

I like the strong colours on the new shot but his helmet looks a bit too high up on his head, especially compared with the first pic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 May, 2012, 12:24:20 PM
Total Film just release new feature about "New" photos (old photos from months ago) And ask about the trailer.

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/dredd-releases-another-batch-of-images (http://www.totalfilm.com/news/dredd-releases-another-batch-of-images)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 May, 2012, 12:26:45 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 09 May, 2012, 12:24:20 PM
Total Film just release new feature about "New" photos (old photos from months ago) And ask about the trailer.

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/dredd-releases-another-batch-of-images (http://www.totalfilm.com/news/dredd-releases-another-batch-of-images)

Damn where the edit! "New" photos was from Empire Exclusive of Dredd feature last year!! So the exclusive permission finishing?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 May, 2012, 12:39:39 PM
Nice old-fashioned accordion style lift.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 09 May, 2012, 02:28:28 PM
Pic looks great. Getting the feeling that the collar's the problem with the helmet riding too high. Nonetheless, looks fearsome.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 09 May, 2012, 03:47:24 PM
Just a thought.

Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes was released last August,had twice the budget and only had its first trailer in April!Look how well THAT did.

Nothing to worry about folks  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 May, 2012, 04:06:09 PM
That one does look new! Really different style lighting to the others. They do to release some pics with different poses though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 May, 2012, 04:23:28 PM
Does anyone have a hd quality one of the empire subscribers only cover? That is my favourite pic so far.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 May, 2012, 04:30:07 PM
Sorry for multi-posting so much. Is there supposed to be an article or something with that new image? I just saw it on the Hollywood reporter site which I think is the source but it is just a pic and no words, not sure if the page isn't loading correctly or something as my internet is being weird today?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/image/2012-17-biz-executive-dredd-karl-urban-h
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 09 May, 2012, 04:37:52 PM
@ HR pic: Could be new, could be a mix-up of all the four similiar pictures which we have seen before. But thinking positive, the press slowly starts to roll.... :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 09 May, 2012, 04:39:02 PM
Cool pic
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: auxlen on 09 May, 2012, 05:31:52 PM
waaah trailer waah i want it now etc. :-[ there's not much that excites me but this film comes a close second to a well presented bacon and sausage barm!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 09 May, 2012, 06:30:58 PM
Thats a nice pic similar pose but not the same, where did this come from Joe ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 09 May, 2012, 06:32:58 PM
yay! looking good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 09 May, 2012, 07:23:10 PM
He looks to have less stubble and is that a lift behind him with the floors listed as 149(119/199?..blurry?)






Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 09 May, 2012, 07:44:39 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 09 May, 2012, 12:22:28 PM
I don't think those 2 photos were taken in the same location. I imagine Dredd will be adopting that pose almost constantly throughout the film so we'll see many similar pictures.

I like the strong colours on the new shot but his helmet looks a bit too high up on his head, especially compared with the first pic.

I don't really like the bright colours myself but definitely agree on the helmets looking a bit naff when they're positioned too high. The original pic looks great and there appears to be only a couple of centimetres difference in positioning.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 09 May, 2012, 09:10:11 PM
I think I can see a subtle pattern emerging...

(http://www.johnkingworld.com/cow/pattern.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 May, 2012, 09:32:55 PM
Someone in IMDB found it, not sure I been see biggest of this photo...

(http://bestmoviesevernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Karl-Urban-in-Dredd-2012-Movie-Image1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 09 May, 2012, 09:34:09 PM
And they all look like Judge Dredd.  Nice.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 09 May, 2012, 09:39:53 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 09 May, 2012, 02:28:28 PM
Pic looks great. Getting the feeling that the collar's the problem with the helmet riding too high. Nonetheless, looks fearsome.

Yes, pics do look great. Maybe the helmet looks/sits a bit awkward in certain positions/poses? hard to say, until we see a good chunk o' footage.
but looking good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 09 May, 2012, 09:42:00 PM
Wait... There a Dredd movie coming?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 May, 2012, 09:46:34 PM
Quote from: Dark Bat King on 09 May, 2012, 09:42:00 PM
Wait... There a Dredd movie coming?

the joke wear thin than my sillyworld strips...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 09 May, 2012, 10:20:25 PM
Yup indeed, that is why I said it.

Thread is down to discussing similarities between publicity shots & early production stills.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 May, 2012, 10:24:08 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 09 May, 2012, 06:30:58 PM
Thats a nice pic similar pose but not the same, where did this come from Joe ?


I found it casting round on the Hollywood Reporter website, it's not attached to anything or part of any article, it was just posted this morning.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 May, 2012, 10:26:35 PM
Quote from: Dark Bat King on 09 May, 2012, 10:20:25 PM
Thread is down to discussing similarities between publicity shots & early production stills.


...and elevators in the background.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 09 May, 2012, 10:31:22 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 09 May, 2012, 10:26:35 PM
Quote from: Dark Bat King on 09 May, 2012, 10:20:25 PM
Thread is down to discussing similarities between publicity shots & early production stills.


...and elevators in the background.

I'd call it a lift.

Now, is that writing on the wall near the end of Joe's gun? It could be a SECRET CLUE.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 09 May, 2012, 10:36:26 PM
Whoa... Lee hit something there!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 May, 2012, 10:40:08 PM
Illegible marks are not clues.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mike Carroll on 09 May, 2012, 11:18:22 PM
I've run the new pic through my "Enhance Detail" algorithm to see if we can make any sense of the text.

(http://www.michaelowencarroll.com/pics/dredd-enhanced.jpg)

-- Mike
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 May, 2012, 11:24:46 PM
Using the Atomic-Carrolloscope again?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 09 May, 2012, 11:33:39 PM
So that proves Dark Judges are in the sequel...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 10 May, 2012, 02:47:57 AM
That new pic is mighty sweet, great find Joe :thumbsup:, I actually really like the strong colours and overall look of the cinematography we've seen thus far, it looks like Mr Dod Mantle is in fine form with Dredd, and the sets look just fantastic - grungy, pungent, but still recognizably Big Meg - I have no problem with the helmet, I suspect the producers are deliberately making the Judge helmets to look a little ill-fitting to accentuate the production-line feel of the Justice Department in this one; their built for purpose not for aesthetic reasons.  All in all, I'm extremely pleased at what we've seen thus far, it looks like the DNA Films guys have yet to put a foot wrong, dare I actually give in to anticipation and excitement this time...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 10 May, 2012, 03:52:59 AM
Quote from: Mike Carroll on 09 May, 2012, 11:18:22 PM
I've run the new pic through my "Enhance Detail" algorithm to see if we can make any sense of the text.

(http://www.michaelowencarroll.com/pics/dredd-enhanced.jpg)

-- Mike

Say thats an incredible piece of kit you got there Mike, not the Astley300 is it ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 10 May, 2012, 09:03:33 AM
Quote from: Mike Carroll on 09 May, 2012, 11:18:22 PM
I've run the new pic through my "Enhance Detail" algorithm to see if we can make any sense of the text.

(http://www.michaelowencarroll.com/pics/dredd-enhanced.jpg)

-- Mike

See Mr. SOAP? You just need to clutch at those straws a tad more desperately.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 10 May, 2012, 09:57:23 AM
Rick rolled by Dredd?

The helmet does seem to change size a bit. Maybe it's too help Urban see. I remember from some documentary on Star Wars the Imperial Stormtroopers kept falling over things due to the poor vision they had from inside their visors.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 10 May, 2012, 10:00:52 AM
Drokkrolled!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 10 May, 2012, 11:35:44 AM
It's supposed to go across the bridge of his bloody nose though!!!!

Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Film will be ace.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 10 May, 2012, 12:18:23 PM
 :lol:
Quote from: Mike Carroll on 09 May, 2012, 11:18:22 PM
I've run the new pic through my "Enhance Detail" algorithm to see if we can make any sense of the text.

(http://www.michaelowencarroll.com/pics/dredd-enhanced.jpg)

-- Mike
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 10 May, 2012, 01:46:49 PM
Quote from: Dark Bat King on 09 May, 2012, 10:20:25 PM
Yup indeed, that is why I said it.

Thread is down to discussing similarities between publicity shots & early production stills.

Who knew there was another step beyond that. :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mr.Fastrope on 10 May, 2012, 02:04:32 PM
When they will put trailers and promotional videos. It's May for Grudsake :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 10 May, 2012, 03:06:13 PM
Props to Mike by the way, hilarious.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mr.Fastrope on 10 May, 2012, 05:18:17 PM
The helmet seems different. Previous pic's helmet was too large :) I think. At least
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 10 May, 2012, 06:19:51 PM
I am clicking far to often on this link each day after work when coming home.
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 10 May, 2012, 08:25:06 PM
Thats another daily link for me then, I seem to be in a mindset to google news for dredd movie, check the forums, check IMDB ....*sigh* it is like pulling teeth trying to get a little media coverage.

Thankfully Joe and Mike have supplied this week thought still unsure of the mysterious wording on that wall.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 10 May, 2012, 08:35:22 PM
There are other things to do with your time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 10 May, 2012, 08:36:12 PM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 10 May, 2012, 08:35:22 PM
There are other things to do with your time.

Bookings slow today?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 May, 2012, 08:55:00 PM
take a chill pill people, it only time, as I am wait for digital copy of this week Prog. No rush.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mr.Fastrope on 10 May, 2012, 09:14:52 PM
saved that link thanks :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 May, 2012, 09:21:39 PM
We'll know about it before it ever ends up on iTunes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 11 May, 2012, 06:27:47 AM
@ Joe: Faster as Itunes? http://movies.yahoo.com/coming-soon/ ?  http://www.imglobalfilm.com/opus/dredd  ?    ....  Ahhh I got it.  http://forums.2000adonline.com/ :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 May, 2012, 09:07:26 AM
Or you just simple set up iGoogle Alert...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 11 May, 2012, 12:33:10 PM
for grud sake starting to think this is just a very long running  joke!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 11 May, 2012, 12:48:50 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


Ha.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 May, 2012, 12:59:18 PM
Prometheus comes out in June, The Dark Knight Rises in July so it might be difficult to promote an R Rated Movie against these two behemoths.

We're still in the shadow of The Avengers blockbuster so perhaps the Film makers decided to opt for a long game of keeping their Promotional powder dry until they think the air has cleared enough to take a shot.

DREDD is a mid budget Movie so it's resources are limited compared to the Batman's franchise so I wouldn't expect anything yet.

The KAPOW meeting on 19th/20th of this month might have a Poster say but not a Trailer. Too early for that I think.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 May, 2012, 01:06:15 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 May, 2012, 12:59:18 PM
The KAPOW meeting on 19th/20th of this month might have a Poster say but not a Trailer. Too early for that I think.

There are three "Hollywood Movie panels" also "Surprise Panel"

(http://kapowcomicconvention.com/sites/default/files/events%20guide%20Momentum.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 May, 2012, 01:35:48 PM
'Movie X?'

Curiouser and curiouser ?

'Hollywood Panel?' What wooden acting award or what?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 11 May, 2012, 01:41:00 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 May, 2012, 12:59:18 PM
Prometheus comes out in June, The Dark Knight Rises in July so it might be difficult to promote an R Rated Movie against these two behemoths.

We're still in the shadow of The Avengers blockbuster so perhaps the Film makers decided to opt for a long game of keeping their Promotional powder dry until they think the air has cleared enough to take a shot.

DREDD is a mid budget Movie so it's resources are limited compared to the Batman's franchise so I wouldn't expect anything yet.

The KAPOW meeting on 19th/20th of this month might have a Poster say but not a Trailer. Too early for that I think.

You're talking absolute sense but I fear you're wasting your breath.

It's all been said hundreds of times already on this thread but still we get the "Why don't they release the trailer 14 months before the film is due out to maximise publicity" comments from people who cannot grasp reality.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 May, 2012, 04:02:55 PM
I am pretty sure people can be excited about more then one film at once. I know I am.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 11 May, 2012, 04:45:30 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 May, 2012, 04:02:55 PM
I am pretty sure people can be excited about more then one film at once. I know I am.

Slut.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 May, 2012, 06:13:20 PM
Forget KAPOW and think more along the lines of San Diego. My money is on that convention.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 11 May, 2012, 07:25:18 PM
@ Joe: good idea.  :)

@kapow: kinda disappointed, but san diego sounds also good. betting fictional money too on that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 May, 2012, 07:58:03 PM
I hope they don't join the recent trend of having trailers for trailers!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 May, 2012, 07:59:53 PM
Yeah, I'm not expecting anything until San Diego, although missing trailing it with Prometheus would seem to be a bit of shame...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 May, 2012, 08:30:10 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 11 May, 2012, 07:59:53 PM
Yeah, I'm not expecting anything until San Diego, although missing trailing it with Prometheus would seem to be a bit of shame...

Would be a bit of a missed opportunity for sure bearing in mind that Prometheus is a very high profile R\15 certificate movie in 3D and aimed at the same target market. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 12 May, 2012, 12:45:52 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 May, 2012, 01:06:15 PM
There are three "Hollywood Movie panels" also "Surprise Panel"
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 May, 2012, 01:35:48 PM
'Movie X?'
Curiouser and curiouser ?

I can put that aspiration to bed right now, Jock said on his Twitter feed that the mystery movie WAS NOT Dredd, sorry to be bearer of bad tidings...

Quote from: dweezil2 on 11 May, 2012, 08:30:10 PM
Would be a bit of a missed opportunity for sure bearing in mind that Prometheus is a very high profile R\15 certificate movie in 3D and aimed at the same target market. Time will tell.

Yeah, a likely 15-rated piece of adult sci-fi in 3-D, you could be describing either Dredd or Prometheus, but I think IM Global and co are waiting for the smoke to clear on the humungous summer releases before they roll out promotion on Dredd... and I too agree than ComicCon in San Diego will be the event to unveil Dredd and get the marketing ball rolling in the run-up to September...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 May, 2012, 05:48:46 PM
Garteh Evans -director of the Raid- will doing a Q & A at Kapow! The Raid is released in the UK & Ireland the same weekend; it'd be ironic if the Raid was movie X.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 12 May, 2012, 08:51:36 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 May, 2012, 07:58:03 PM
I hope they don't join the recent trend of having trailers for trailers!

Hopefully not. A smaller promotional budget, i guess, might mean things are a bit more traditional?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 13 May, 2012, 12:16:54 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 May, 2012, 07:58:03 PM
I hope they don't join the recent trend of having trailers for trailers!

They used to call them teaser trailers.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 13 May, 2012, 06:44:36 AM
Teaser trailers are something different, they're just short little trailers (around thirty to ninety seconds) for a film yet to be released for another six months or so - sometimes longer, with big releases - these trailers for trailers is a new and decidedly absurd phenomenon however, the film industry is really going to the dogs, in my opinion, when we feel the need to advertise trailers... trailers for goodness' sakes!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 13 May, 2012, 08:57:53 AM
Don't agree.  Trailers are a form of entertainment all their own that have really found their medium in the internet. 

The first piece of video I ever downloaded was the first trailer for Phantom Menace.  It took half the night over my phone line, and it was a fuzzy mess about the size of a playing card, but it was the most excited I'd been since I first fumbled at a bra-strap.  It's an accepted truth that that trailer delivered infinitely better fun than the film (and I'm a fan), but even taking that as an outlier trailers can frequently be their own pleasure. 

As a broke parent I'd say my ratio of online trailer-watching to movie-going is over 50 to 1.  I go to the cinema 2-5 times a year, mainly kids' films, so while there I see a maximum of 20 trailers on the big screen, most of them apparently for sequels to Ice Age.  I don't really watch TV.  On the internet I sometimes watch that many a week, and I get to choose what I watch. 

Trailers for teasers for trailers are something I want to see, beacause the teaser/trailer is a bigger part of my entertainment intake than movies themselves - I want to be built-up, I want to be kept informed.  Unless it's for Ice Age 17: The Quantum of Slothness.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jock on 13 May, 2012, 10:26:35 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 12 May, 2012, 12:45:52 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 May, 2012, 01:06:15 PM
There are three "Hollywood Movie panels" also "Surprise Panel"
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 May, 2012, 01:35:48 PM
'Movie X?'
Curiouser and curiouser ?

I can put that aspiration to bed right now, Jock said on his Twitter feed that the mystery movie WAS NOT Dredd, sorry to be bearer of bad tidings...

Quote from: dweezil2 on 11 May, 2012, 08:30:10 PM
Would be a bit of a missed opportunity for sure bearing in mind that Prometheus is a very high profile R\15 certificate movie in 3D and aimed at the same target market. Time will tell.

Yeah, a likely 15-rated piece of adult sci-fi in 3-D, you could be describing either Dredd or Prometheus, but I think IM Global and co are waiting for the smoke to clear on the humungous summer releases before they roll out promotion on Dredd... and I too agree than ComicCon in San Diego will be the event to unveil Dredd and get the marketing ball rolling in the run-up to September...
I've never said anything about movie x on twitter (I don't think....) but I doubt it's dredd. I have no idea what it is.

Where did you get the idea I did?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 13 May, 2012, 11:24:36 AM
#Jock -Why do you doubt it's Dredd?

When do you expect something to appear and how's that poster coming along  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 13 May, 2012, 11:30:33 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 13 May, 2012, 08:57:53 AM
Don't agree.  Trailers are a form of entertainment all their own that have really found their medium in the internet. 

The first piece of video I ever downloaded was the first trailer for Phantom Menace.  It took half the night over my phone line, and it was a fuzzy mess about the size of a playing card, but it was the most excited I'd been since I first fumbled at a bra-strap.  It's an accepted truth that that trailer delivered infinitely better fun than the film (and I'm a fan), but even taking that as an outlier trailers can frequently be their own pleasure. 

As a broke parent I'd say my ratio of online trailer-watching to movie-going is over 50 to 1.  I go to the cinema 2-5 times a year, mainly kids' films, so while there I see a maximum of 20 trailers on the big screen, most of them apparently for sequels to Ice Age.  I don't really watch TV.  On the internet I sometimes watch that many a week, and I get to choose what I watch. 

Trailers for teasers for trailers are something I want to see, beacause the teaser/trailer is a bigger part of my entertainment intake than movies themselves - I want to be built-up, I want to be kept informed.  Unless it's for Ice Age 17: The Quantum of Slothness.
THIS...The chase is half the fun of being a movie fan.
And ditto on the Phantom M...still the greatest trailer ever,shame the film was a letdown.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 13 May, 2012, 06:26:25 PM
Ha! Does anyone remember the Star Trek V trailer? It made the film look awesome, hilarious etc.  It turned out all the exciting/funny parts had been crammed into the trailer, leaving a dreadful film in its wake.

The only trailer I've seen which has gotten me exited since the aforementioned Phantom Menace is Prometheus.  That trailer has made me desperate to see it! 

As for Dredd, the sooner we have a trailer the better! Simon Peggs birthday greetings with Karl's chin and gruff voice was quite simply not enough!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rex The Runt on 13 May, 2012, 11:47:32 PM
Really? 

"A sci fi film by Ridley Scott, somehow related to Alien"

That's all I need to know.
Take my ticket money.

Spare me the three minute spoiler.
I'll see every moment fresh in the cinema.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rex The Runt on 13 May, 2012, 11:49:30 PM
Likewise - "a new Dredd film."

That's all I need to know too.

Loving the pics and discussion about fat tyres, but pass on the trailer!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 May, 2012, 11:55:01 PM
Right with you on Prometheus, Rex.. It's comical how I fumble with the remote every time the trailer's on telly..

Speaking of trailers on telly.. Saw one for The Raid..

Oh dear..

My guess is we won't be seeing anything until that's out of the way..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 14 May, 2012, 12:06:36 AM
Quote from: Rex The Runt on 13 May, 2012, 11:47:32 PM
Really? 

"A sci fi film by Ridley Scott, somehow related to Alien"

That's all I need to know.
Take my ticket money.

Spare me the three minute spoiler.
I'll see every moment fresh in the cinema.

Yeah, point taken. Same with Dredd - a no-brainer.  Yet I still want something to feast on until it's released!  :P

You know, re Prometheus, this is going to make me sound like a right dill, but I had no idea it was related to Alien until I saw the trailer.  And then my eyes bugged out of my head!  I'd somehow missed ALL the hype, and it was a complete shocker to me!

Now I'm aware of it, I look around at all the adverts and media and think 'how could I have not known?!'

But yeah, Dredd, bring it on! 

One thing I'm really glad of is that i found out about the leaked script after Megadownload or whatever it was called got taken down.  I know myself too well - I would have read that script from cover to cover.  I would not have been able to resist, and completely spoiled it for myself.  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 May, 2012, 12:18:58 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 May, 2012, 11:55:01 PM
Speaking of trailers on telly.. Saw one for The Raid..

Oh dear..

My guess is we won't be seeing anything until that's out of the way..


Agree. That's been the main reason why I believe we've seen no Dredd trailer.

The Raid is released this coming Friday in Ireland & the UK and I wouldn't be surprised if that's the secret film at Kapow!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 14 May, 2012, 02:55:57 AM
Quote from: jock on 13 May, 2012, 10:26:35 AM
I've never said anything about movie x on twitter (I don't think....) but I doubt it's dredd. I have no idea what it is.
Where did you get the idea I did?

Sorry if I got this wrong, Jock dude, but you posted "it's not DREDD, by the way" on Apr 19 on your Twitter account, it was about the same time that Kapow was announced and the speculation over 'movie x' was starting up, if you were referring to something else entirely, many apologies, my bad... looking forward to seeing what you came up with for the Dredd one-sheet, though...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 14 May, 2012, 04:03:14 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 14 May, 2012, 02:55:57 AM
Sorry if I got this wrong, Jock dude, but you posted "it's not DREDD, by the way" on Apr 19 on your Twitter account, it was about the same time that Kapow was announced and the speculation over 'movie x' was starting up, if you were referring to something else entirely, many apologies, my bad... looking forward to seeing what you came up with for the Dredd one-sheet, though...

Not on Twitter but just scrolled through Jock's feed  for half a minute and the tweet immediately prior to "it's not Dredd" was regarding a one sheet movie poster he was working on.

*whispers* : ( I think it might have been for The Raid ).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 14 May, 2012, 05:15:44 AM
Quote from: Rex The Runt on 13 May, 2012, 11:49:30 PM
Likewise - "a new Dredd film."

That's all I need to know too.

Loving the pics and discussion about fat tyres, but pass on the trailer!
In this case its been waiting that long I can keep going for Dredd...six of one...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: brendan1 on 14 May, 2012, 09:59:18 AM
Some of the speculation about the helmet is truly fantastic.

" I suspect the producers are deliberately making the Judge helmets to look a little ill-fitting to accentuate the production-line feel of the Justice Department in this one"

Ahahahahahaha!

I think the truth is rather more prosaic: he needs to be able to fucking see out of it.
In all honesty, the Stallone helmet iteration made a lot of sense from a visibility stance.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 May, 2012, 10:31:15 AM
Quote from: brendan1 on 14 May, 2012, 09:59:18 AM
In all honesty, the Stallone helmet iteration made a lot of sense from a visibility stance.

but looked shite.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 May, 2012, 10:34:54 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 14 May, 2012, 10:31:15 AM

but looked shite.

I agreed, Urban's Helmet looks better.

(http://www.shadowlocked.com/images/stories/news/010_November_2010/23/judge_dredd_urban.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: brendan1 on 14 May, 2012, 10:40:24 AM
Oh yeah, it looks way better.

But if the film had adopted an early McMahon/ Bolland/ Ezquerra model it would look even better, but the lack of visibility would have meant Urban required actual bionic eyes, because that's the only way you'd be able to see anything through those tiny, black slits.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 May, 2012, 11:19:08 AM
Interesting juxtaposition of those two shots, too. The one on the left looks like a slightly naff dress uniform; the one on the right looks like a riot cop.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 14 May, 2012, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: brendan1 on 14 May, 2012, 10:40:24 AM
Oh yeah, it looks way better.

But if the film had adopted an early McMahon/ Bolland/ Ezquerra model it would look even better, but the lack of visibility would have meant Urban required actual bionic eyes, because that's the only way you'd be able to see anything through those tiny, black slits.

It doesn't really matter if he can or can't see out of the helmet, as long as he acts like he can see out. It's a film. I bet Robert Downey Jr. can't see out of his Iron Man mask either.

Personally, I think it looks great and I can attest from experience (as can be seen in my avatar) that visibility is fine with the comics accurate helmet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 May, 2012, 11:34:50 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 14 May, 2012, 11:19:08 AM
Interesting juxtaposition of those two shots, too. The one on the left looks like a slightly naff dress uniform; the one on the right looks like a riot cop.

Too right, if as Judge doing graveyard shift, which uniform you would pick?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 14 May, 2012, 01:39:09 PM
Sorry if anyone's picked up on this on another thread , and slightly off tangent , but Goaty now blinks!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 May, 2012, 10:31:11 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 14 May, 2012, 01:39:09 PM
Sorry if anyone's picked up on this on another thread , and slightly off tangent , but Goaty now blinks!

Yeah I am watching you...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 15 May, 2012, 02:18:51 AM
Quote from: strontium71 on 14 May, 2012, 01:39:09 PM
Sorry if anyone's picked up on this on another thread , and slightly off tangent , but Goaty now blinks!

Oh that's just great, George Lucas ruins another masterpiece with his digital 'improvements'... Goaty's avatar: the Special Edition!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 15 May, 2012, 06:02:11 PM
Quote from: brendan1 on 14 May, 2012, 09:59:18 AM
In all honesty, the Stallone helmet iteration made a lot of sense from a visibility stance.

What, not wearing one?   :lol:


I'm ignoring most of the discussion about the film as the bottom line is that, come September, I'll be banging on the cinema doors, demanding to see it.

Trailers, or lack of, at this point bothers me not one bit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 May, 2012, 06:50:19 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 May, 2012, 11:55:01 PM

...Speaking of trailers on telly.. Saw one for The Raid..

Oh dear...


Wouldn't worry: 'Battle Royale' doesn't seem to have affected 'The Hunger Games' much.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 May, 2012, 08:10:14 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 15 May, 2012, 06:50:19 PM
Wouldn't worry: 'Battle Royale' doesn't seem to have affected 'The Hunger Games' much.


They weren't released in the same year.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 15 May, 2012, 08:35:31 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 May, 2012, 08:10:14 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 15 May, 2012, 06:50:19 PM
Wouldn't worry: 'Battle Royale' doesn't seem to have affected 'The Hunger Games' much.


They weren't released in the same year.

And most of my mates didn't bother with the Hunger games because we all agreed that it just looked like a Battle Royale knock-off. But we're a bunch of snobs :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 15 May, 2012, 11:19:37 PM
Saw The Raid tonight and it was a very impressive film for the budget, but I really don't think Dredd has got anything to worry about. There are enough differences with the Dredd story to make it a significantly different experience to The Raid (much less martial arts for starters).

As for The Hungar Games, what a hugely overrated film that was. Poor direction, for the most part, and a weak script. Just shows what effective hype and Twighlight fans hungry for more can achieve! And it's not a tenth of the film Battle Royale was.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 16 May, 2012, 12:18:56 PM
Slightly of topic, but interesting none the less.  I have just caught a glimpse of the house of Commons debate on modern policing. In summary it calls for quicker justice through front line police being able to charge a criminal at source. Looks like Dredds world is just round the corner and the government has been reading back issues of case files!  :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 May, 2012, 12:21:36 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 16 May, 2012, 12:18:56 PM
Slightly of topic, but interesting none the less.  I have just caught a glimpse of the house of Commons debate on modern policing. In summary it calls for quicker justice through front line police being able to charge a criminal at source. Looks like Dredds world is just round the corner and the government has been reading back issues of case files!  :-)

dracula1, The Politic Thread could be best place to post it?
http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,28209.2220.html (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,28209.2220.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 16 May, 2012, 12:31:35 PM
Cheers Goaty l did know that existed l will look in on it now. I am usually looking in on Dredd and film threads only , sound like there is lots of interesting discussion going on elsewhere too. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 16 May, 2012, 06:01:05 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 16 May, 2012, 12:31:35 PM
sound like there is lots of interesting discussion going on elsewhere too.

You'd think  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 May, 2012, 06:25:11 PM
Here's update from Kapow! No Dredd Movie cos the director of The Raid on it...

(http://kapowcomicconvention.com/sites/default/files/Final%20events%20guide.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 May, 2012, 07:09:08 PM
Shucks!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 May, 2012, 07:13:07 PM
I'm absolutely stunned and there was me thinking San Diego all along  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 16 May, 2012, 07:16:16 PM
Now this is going to come across as bitter and twisted ... What had Raid got to do with Kapow?! Is it a Sci fi
Or comic inspired movie?  :-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 16 May, 2012, 07:18:07 PM
QuoteNo Dredd Movie cos the director of The Raid on it...
And you know this how?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 16 May, 2012, 08:44:15 PM
Hey chaps.. Not long now apparently. The final grade is allegedly being tweaked..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 16 May, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 16 May, 2012, 08:44:15 PM
Hey chaps.. Not long now apparently. The final grade is allegedly being tweaked..
EEEEEEE. A little bit of sex wee there.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 May, 2012, 08:47:01 PM
You've bloody gone and done it now. This means we can have anpther 100 pages of talking about nothing  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 May, 2012, 08:47:31 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 16 May, 2012, 07:18:07 PM
QuoteNo Dredd Movie cos the director of The Raid on it...
And you know this how?

Sorry there was Q&A with Gareth Evans's The Raid on first panel, and there no announced of it for this weekend, I hope I am wrong, and it would be nice surprise for people at Kapow! if there Dredd happens??
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2012, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 May, 2012, 07:13:07 PM
I'm absolutely stunned and there was me thinking San Diego all along  ::)


Well Matt Smith did tell us so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 May, 2012, 08:52:16 PM
Dr Who never told me. I've always believed this since last KAPOW  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 16 May, 2012, 09:20:54 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 16 May, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 16 May, 2012, 08:44:15 PM
Hey chaps.. Not long now apparently. The final grade is allegedly being tweaked..
EEEEEEE. A little bit of sex wee there.




V


Yes! White wee time here too!

Does that mean we can resurrect that fascinating green/teal film grading debate?

That should sustain us until the trailer hits!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 16 May, 2012, 09:45:41 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 16 May, 2012, 08:44:15 PM
Hey chaps.. Not long now apparently. The final grade is allegedly being tweaked..

Hail to the Tweak! That sounds like good news for once.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 16 May, 2012, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 16 May, 2012, 08:44:15 PM
Hey chaps.. Not long now apparently. The final grade is allegedly being tweaked..
What's final Grade in movies mean?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 May, 2012, 09:57:29 PM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 16 May, 2012, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 16 May, 2012, 08:44:15 PM
Hey chaps.. Not long now apparently. The final grade is allegedly being tweaked..
What's final Grade in movies mean?

Think he means this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_grading (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_grading)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2012, 10:01:34 PM
Giving the film a look by altering/enhancing the colour/grain/highlights/shadows/fields/resolution of the shots and balancing the look of every scene so that they all match and fit the visual style of the film.

Mostly done in a digital suite these days.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 16 May, 2012, 10:37:40 PM
Bet no one wins oscars for that kind of work   :lol:
Is this the final process, or would there be additional work like end credits to be put on afterwards.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2012, 10:43:14 PM
The grade/online is the end of the chain.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 May, 2012, 12:23:11 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 15 May, 2012, 11:19:37 PM
Saw The Raid tonight and it was a very impressive film for the budget, but I really don't think Dredd has got anything to worry about. There are enough differences with the Dredd story to make it a significantly different experience to The Raid (much less martial arts for starters).

Regardless of all the hype, whenever the trailer's been on TV I've never once thought about checking it out before the DVD's available. It reminds me of those adverts flogging albums by musicians you've never heard of. My sceptic sense is immediately triggered when these things just appear from nowhere.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 May, 2012, 12:27:57 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 16 May, 2012, 08:44:15 PM
Hey chaps.. Not long now apparently. The final grade is allegedly being tweaked..

Cool beanz. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 17 May, 2012, 01:19:50 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 16 May, 2012, 08:44:15 PM
Hey chaps.. Not long now apparently. The final grade is allegedly being tweaked..

Hope this means the trailer is DEFINITELY on the way now...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 17 May, 2012, 05:29:59 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 17 May, 2012, 01:19:50 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 16 May, 2012, 08:44:15 PM
Hey chaps.. Not long now apparently. The final grade is allegedly being tweaked..

Hope this means the trailer is DEFINITELY on the way now...

Of course it is on the way, but then, so is Christmas...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 17 May, 2012, 06:13:22 AM
Quote from: Angry Vince on 17 May, 2012, 05:29:59 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 17 May, 2012, 01:19:50 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 16 May, 2012, 08:44:15 PM
Hey chaps.. Not long now apparently. The final grade is allegedly being tweaked..
Hope this means the trailer is DEFINITELY on the way now...
Of course it is on the way, but then, so is Christmas...

I meant "on the way" in the imminent sense, a few weeks perhaps, sometime in June or early Jul- oh f**k it, never mind... 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 17 May, 2012, 07:24:48 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2012, 10:01:34 PM
Giving the film a look by altering/enhancing the colour/grain/highlights/shadows/fields/resolution of the shots and balancing the look of every scene so that they all match and fit the visual style of the film.

Mostly done in a digital suite these days.

So how long would it take to do physically, one wonders?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 May, 2012, 09:00:13 AM
Quote from: George Dread on 17 May, 2012, 07:24:48 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2012, 10:01:34 PM
Giving the film a look by altering/enhancing the colour/grain/highlights/shadows/fields/resolution of the shots and balancing the look of every scene so that they all match and fit the visual style of the film.

Mostly done in a digital suite these days.

So how long would it take to do physically, one wonders?

With rendering work, can take while...

Sorry off-topic with rendering fact, Avatar; each frame (1/24 of a second) of the CGI scenes took an average of 47 hours to render. Amazing mad is it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 17 May, 2012, 09:03:59 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 17 May, 2012, 09:00:13 AMAmazing mad is it?

Amazingly bland, as it turned out. 

- Tordlegrump.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 17 May, 2012, 09:04:37 AM
Sorry Goaty. Nice factoid like, but I really meant before digital.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 May, 2012, 09:11:59 AM
Quote from: George Dread on 17 May, 2012, 09:04:37 AM
Sorry Goaty. Nice factoid like, but I really meant before digital.

Ahh sorry, dont know, ask the secret insider Michael ;-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 09:28:19 AM
Dredd is being screened at Cannes:


There are still plenty of 3D titles cramming the halls of Cannes' Marche du Film. The Weinstein Company has Escape from Planet Earth, a 3D animation film featuring the voice talent of Jessica Alba and Brendan Frasier, as well as the horror parody Piranha 3DD; IM Global has Dredd, its 3D reboot of the sci-fi franchise with Karl Urban reprising the role of the vengeful titular judge


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cannes-3d-madagascar-324529
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 17 May, 2012, 09:34:51 AM
To the Strat-Bat!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 17 May, 2012, 09:35:09 AM
Lets hope its not being teal and oranged then :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 17 May, 2012, 09:35:51 AM
Sin City 2 is in 3D?

Initially I recoiled at that, but it could actually be pretty cool.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 May, 2012, 09:43:41 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 09:28:19 AM
Dredd is being screened at Cannes:


There are still plenty of 3D titles cramming the halls of Cannes' Marche du Film. The Weinstein Company has Escape from Planet Earth, a 3D animation film featuring the voice talent of Jessica Alba and Brendan Frasier, as well as the horror parody Piranha 3DD; IM Global has Dredd, its 3D reboot of the sci-fi franchise with Karl Urban reprising the role of the vengeful titular judge


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cannes-3d-madagascar-324529

Nice!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 17 May, 2012, 09:58:28 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 09:28:19 AM
Dredd is being screened at Cannes:


There are still plenty of 3D titles cramming the halls of Cannes' Marche du Film. The Weinstein Company has Escape from Planet Earth, a 3D animation film featuring the voice talent of Jessica Alba and Brendan Frasier, as well as the horror parody Piranha 3DD; IM Global has Dredd, its 3D reboot of the sci-fi franchise with Karl Urban reprising the role of the vengeful titular judge


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cannes-3d-madagascar-324529

Ugh, much to be niggled by in so short a sentence. Aside from the "reboot" bit which we're getting used to, "vengeful"?????
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 17 May, 2012, 10:17:32 AM
....and :o titular!  Sounds like something you'd have in a porn movie and not an action flick.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 17 May, 2012, 10:39:49 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 09:28:19 AM
Dredd is being screened at Cannes:


There are still plenty of 3D titles cramming the halls of Cannes' Marche du Film. The Weinstein Company has Escape from Planet Earth, a 3D animation film featuring the voice talent of Jessica Alba and Brendan Frasier, as well as the horror parody Piranha 3DD; IM Global has Dredd, its 3D reboot of the sci-fi franchise with Karl Urban reprising the role of the vengeful titular judge


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cannes-3d-madagascar-324529

Don't think this is right.Dredd is not being screened at Cannes 2012 as far as I can tell.There is no listing for them being screened-they may have a prescence there but if they do I can't find it   :|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 17 May, 2012, 10:45:44 AM
Well he HAS been a vengeful and titular Judge enough for many journos to regard him as such a few times. Maybe they just c and peed its usage in an article they found on their research.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 17 May, 2012, 10:48:30 AM
don't think he has any choice in being titular unless they change the title :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 17 May, 2012, 11:05:48 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 17 May, 2012, 10:39:49 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 09:28:19 AM
Dredd is being screened at Cannes:


There are still plenty of 3D titles cramming the halls of Cannes' Marche du Film. The Weinstein Company has Escape from Planet Earth, a 3D animation film featuring the voice talent of Jessica Alba and Brendan Frasier, as well as the horror parody Piranha 3DD; IM Global has Dredd, its 3D reboot of the sci-fi franchise with Karl Urban reprising the role of the vengeful titular judge


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cannes-3d-madagascar-324529

Don't think this is right.Dredd is not being screened at Cannes 2012 as far as I can tell.There is no listing for them being screened-they may have a prescence there but if they do I can't find it   :|

It's in the Marché du Film (http://www.festival-cannes.com/en/article/57922.html), the big film marketing event going on at the same time as the main Cannes festival where companies try to sell their films to international distributors.  Many of them are screened or have excerpts screened, but I don't think it's necessarily guaranteed.  (I pretend to know what I'm talking about, having Googled this about fifteen minutes ago.)

I did have a poke through the Pocket Guide linked here (http://www.marchedufilm.com/en) (rather absurdly named, it's massive) but couldn't find any mention of Dredd, so it's possible it's being presented but not screened.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 12:52:15 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 17 May, 2012, 10:39:49 AM

Don't think this is right.Dredd is not being screened at Cannes 2012 as far as I can tell.There is no listing for them being screened-they may have a prescence there but if they do I can't find it   :|


The films listed are not in 'competition'. Cannes is a market too and there are many screenings.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 12:54:13 PM
They have stands where they can schedule meetings and book screenings to show completed films or extracts of films that are in the process of being produced.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 17 May, 2012, 01:59:18 PM
Good Grud! Listen to this :o

At work I feed a big, strapping, sometimes violent lad at lunchtime. Like every other day, I was sitting opposite his teacher, the lovely Mrs Aidee, making small talk. She says "Oh, I showed my sister Tina the Judge Dredd page you put on Facebook."

I asked her why, wondering if she was into comics.

"Oh, she's just edited the new film!"

"Wha-buh-huh!?!" I asked what she thought of it and she said it was "Dead gory!" I also asked which other films she's worked on, she said Sunshine and Pride and Prejudice.

Mrs Aidee used to be Miss Richardson and sure enough, on IMDB there's a visual FX editor called Tina Richardson. I've asked for gossip (and pathetically sent her a FB friend request) and will keep you posted! I can't frigging believe she never thought to mention this before!

It's a small world, but I wouldn't like to paint it...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 May, 2012, 02:03:39 PM
Don't tell anyone else Pete, just ring me with the info and I won't blow your Block up  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 17 May, 2012, 03:01:08 PM
Well we're going to have some reviews real soon, in that case. Can't imagine they'll show the entire movie, would they? Maybe an extended excerpt? (That'll end up on youtube for five minutes...)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 17 May, 2012, 03:23:48 PM
Quite a week you're having Pete.All that remains is for Mrs Aidee to tell you she fancies you and would you mind at all if her sister joins in... ;) :D Buy a lottery ticket this week you lucky bleeder you're on a roll :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 17 May, 2012, 03:58:53 PM
Can he not be Eponymous, instead?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 17 May, 2012, 03:59:24 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 17 May, 2012, 03:23:48 PM
Quite a week you're having Pete.All that remains is for Mrs Aidee to tell you she fancies you and would you mind at all if her sister joins in... ;) :D Buy a lottery ticket this week you lucky bleeder you're on a roll :thumbsup:

Ha ha ha!!!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 17 May, 2012, 04:05:57 PM
Can't see it on the listings. Only this so far.... http://www.cinando.com/DefaultController.aspx?PageID=FicheFilm&IdC=8368&IdF=97568 someone may have put it up already.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 17 May, 2012, 05:49:27 PM
NUTS are doing a 'vote' for the films that are out this year,one of the choices is Dredd.Feature a better shot of the Judges,same pic that was in Empire but more of it,pretty cool.

http://www.nuts.co.uk/207902/biggest-film-this-year/item/207913
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 17 May, 2012, 05:50:20 PM
Its a new one I think albeit very similar...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 17 May, 2012, 05:53:23 PM
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k192/danbo1138/dredd_3d_.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 17 May, 2012, 06:03:08 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 17 May, 2012, 05:53:23 PM
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k192/danbo1138/dredd_3d_.jpg)

That looks arsom!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 17 May, 2012, 06:04:19 PM
Who's the short-arse??
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 17 May, 2012, 06:13:12 PM
People are more exited to see the Cunt Lemon film than they are Dredd? What is the world coming to?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 17 May, 2012, 06:19:06 PM
Men in Black 3 shocked me,nobody seen MIB2?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 17 May, 2012, 07:11:40 PM
That short guy in the middle needs a new tailor.  He looks like those scruts that perch baseball caps precariously atop their noggin.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklambo on 17 May, 2012, 07:19:15 PM
Lex is the only Judge that seems to have a helmet and uniform that actually fit...Think he looks absolutely drokkin awesome!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 17 May, 2012, 07:42:56 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 17 May, 2012, 07:11:40 PM
That short guy in the middle needs a new tailor.  He looks like those scruts that perch baseball caps precariously atop their noggin.

I think that short 'guy' is actually a 'gal'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 17 May, 2012, 08:08:11 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 17 May, 2012, 07:42:56 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 17 May, 2012, 07:11:40 PM
That short guy in the middle needs a new tailor.  He looks like those scruts that perch baseball caps precariously atop their noggin.
I think that short 'guy' is actually a 'gal'

Looks like a Female Judge. As for the Helmet well your some bit part actress working hard for a few pennies when a chance comes along to be in a mid budget Sci fi Action flick!

Then they they want you to wear a Helmet that covers your face! Why not push the visor a few centimeters upwards so at least you can see and be seen a bit more.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 09:58:38 PM
This pic is from the ipad version of Empire magazine released last September which allows you to view their printed pictures in two different formats, generally.


Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 17 May, 2012, 05:53:23 PM
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k192/danbo1138/dredd_3d_.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 17 May, 2012, 10:05:05 PM
I recall John Wagner mentioning he had seen some of the concept stuff and maybe even early finished uniforms early on in the developmental stages and suggested changing some aspects of the uniform...I have my suspicions that the helmet was one of those suggestions.
Just the way the helmet is sitting very close to the neck collar and maybe they didn't really test the new changes made afterwards and not taking into account the different body types of the people wearing them.
I still think it looks fantastic when its sitting right on the actors. Would be cool to find out this stuff once the dust has settled after the release of the movie.
Definately one question I'll be asking him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 10:13:28 PM
...and Dredd gets its first public screening:



Of today's Dredd screening, IM Global's Stuart Ford says, "The reaction was great. It was as packed as any screening I've seen in Cannes. There were people sitting on the floor in the front and the back of the room." (And that was after the air-conditioning had gone on the blink just ahead of the movie; Ford says there were no walkouts, "even though it was about a hundred degrees.") Dredd, directed by Pete Travis, stars Karl Urban, Olivia Thirlby and Lena Headey. It's a project that would also normally have been set up at a studio, but instead, Reliance Big Entertainment and IM Global financed DNA Films' $40M adaptation of the UK comic created by John Wagner and illustrated by Carlos Ezquerra. Today's screening allowed "people who bought it for a lot of money 18 months ago" to get a look at what Ford says is "an edgy, cool film with a rocking soundtrack." Compared to other superhero pictures coming down the pike, Ford says it "appears very fresh and distinctive. It's Dirty Harry meets District 9." Lionsgate is releasing in the U.S. on September 21 and there are two territories remaining that Ford expects to close possibly "before the evening is out."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 10:13:40 PM
http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/cloud-atlas-dredd-looper-magic-mike-cannes-screenings/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 17 May, 2012, 10:14:17 PM
http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/cloud-atlas-dredd-looper-magic-mike-cannes-screenings/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 17 May, 2012, 10:14:55 PM
Bugger  :'(
Second
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 17 May, 2012, 10:15:20 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 10:13:28 PM
...and Dredd gets its first public screening:



Of today's Dredd screening, IM Global's Stuart Ford says, "The reaction was great. It was as packed as any screening I've seen in Cannes. There were people sitting on the floor in the front and the back of the room." (And that was after the air-conditioning had gone on the blink just ahead of the movie; Ford says there were no walkouts, "even though it was about a hundred degrees.") Dredd, directed by Pete Travis, stars Karl Urban, Olivia Thirlby and Lena Headey. It's a project that would also normally have been set up at a studio, but instead, Reliance Big Entertainment and IM Global financed DNA Films' $40M adaptation of the UK comic created by John Wagner and illustrated by Carlos Ezquerra. Today's screening allowed "people who bought it for a lot of money 18 months ago" to get a look at what Ford says is "an edgy, cool film with a rocking soundtrack." Compared to other superhero pictures coming down the pike, Ford says it "appears very fresh and distinctive. It's Dirty Harry meets District 9." Lionsgate is releasing in the U.S. on September 21 and there are two territories remaining that Ford expects to close possibly "before the evening is out."

Sounds very promising indeed
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 10:19:15 PM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 17 May, 2012, 10:05:05 PM
I recall John Wagner mentioning he had seen some of the concept stuff and maybe even early finished uniforms early on in the developmental stages and suggested changing some aspects of the uniform...I have my suspicions that the helmet was one of those suggestions.
Just the way the helmet is sitting very close to the neck collar and maybe they didn't really test the new changes made afterwards and not taking into account the different body types of the people wearing them.
I still think it looks fantastic when its sitting right on the actors. Would be cool to find out this stuff once the dust has settled after the release of the movie.
Definately one question I'll be asking him.


Apparently the helmet design is sacrosanct, couldn't be changed and was one of the strict stipulations   laid down by Rebellion, along with it not being removed. I believe the changes were more to do with the rest of the uniform. uniform.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 17 May, 2012, 10:20:48 PM
Excellent news considering the conditions the viewers had to endure whilst still enjoying it.
Roll on September...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 17 May, 2012, 10:24:36 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 10:19:15 PM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 17 May, 2012, 10:05:05 PM
I recall John Wagner mentioning he had seen some of the concept stuff and maybe even early finished uniforms early on in the developmental stages and suggested changing some aspects of the uniform...I have my suspicions that the helmet was one of those suggestions.
Just the way the helmet is sitting very close to the neck collar and maybe they didn't really test the new changes made afterwards and not taking into account the different body types of the people wearing them.
I still think it looks fantastic when its sitting right on the actors. Would be cool to find out this stuff once the dust has settled after the release of the movie.
Definately one question I'll be asking him.


Apparently the helmet design is sacrosanct, couldn't be changed and was one of the strict stipulations   laid down by Rebellion, along with it not being removed. I believe the changes were more to do with the rest of the uniform. uniform.
Eagle on the shoulder?
What would you put yout money if you were to guess Joe?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 10:26:11 PM
(http://www.lyricis.fr/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Dredd-3D-2-Cannes-2012.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 May, 2012, 10:56:12 PM
Wow, thanks Joe!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 17 May, 2012, 10:59:38 PM
It seems to me that the Dredd (2012) ball is rolling a little bit faster now.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 May, 2012, 11:00:45 PM
That's some real tasty news!  :D

Wonder if we'll get some audience reaction to the film soon!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 17 May, 2012, 11:01:20 PM
http://www.lyricis.fr/festival-de-cannes/les-affiches-de-cannes-2012-avec-the-amazing-spider-man-total-recall-memoires-programmees-django-unchainded-one-shot-et-dredd-66449/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 17 May, 2012, 11:06:27 PM
On a geeky note, check that fucking typeface! Jan Shepard-tastic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 17 May, 2012, 11:06:27 PM
On a geeky note, check that fucking typeface! Jan Shepard-tastic.



I hope it's available on the Spectrum.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 17 May, 2012, 11:36:58 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 17 May, 2012, 11:06:27 PM
On a geeky note, check that fucking typeface! Jan Shepard-tastic.
I hope it's available on the Spectrum.


Looks like the alternate logo used in the early days.

(http://2000ad.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/cursed-earth.jpg)

If that was the facing page of a Bolland or McMahon centre spread, the opposite page would have the word 'JUDGE' running down the left gutter and a big drawing of whatever's causing Dredd to run away (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W_u4UTvk9w).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 17 May, 2012, 11:43:40 PM
I'm afraid I've just cum... :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 May, 2012, 11:44:48 PM
Just notice it looks like Robocop font.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 11:47:02 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 17 May, 2012, 11:43:40 PM
I'm afraid I've just cum... :o


First time for everything.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 17 May, 2012, 11:56:29 PM
OK just when I was starting to get used to the idea of not seeing a trailer I hear how awesome it is and now am way too excited again!

Does anyone have an unwatermarked version of that judges pic? Looks badass!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 11:58:22 PM
If you manage to jailbreak an ipad, you can rip it off last September's Empire.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 18 May, 2012, 12:03:11 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 11:47:02 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 17 May, 2012, 11:43:40 PM
I'm afraid I've just cum... :o


First time for everything.

:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 18 May, 2012, 12:05:37 AM
Is that image of hollywood reporter issue  not out yet?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 18 May, 2012, 12:09:37 AM
Oh it's a poster for the screening?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: djangoesque on 18 May, 2012, 12:20:46 AM
Wonder if this makes it a likely candidate for "Movie X" at Kapow! this weekend?.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2012, 12:26:58 AM
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/7379/cannesdredd.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 18 May, 2012, 12:28:27 AM
I hadn't really considered the huge collar restricting movement in such a way that it forces the helmet right up over the nose. That's a slightly annoying screw up if true. Hopefully it only affects background characters and isn't very noticable.

BUT...great news that it's finished and was recieved well. Allegedly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2012, 12:30:51 AM
Quote from: Stan on 18 May, 2012, 12:28:27 AM
I hadn't really considered the huge collar restricting movement in such a way that it forces the helmet right up over the nose. That's a slightly annoying screw up if true.


I haven't seen the neck-brace touching the helmet at all in any of the photos.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 18 May, 2012, 12:31:47 AM
My heart skipped a beat when I followed the deadline link....

Only to sink again when I realised all the 'praise' was all coming from the film's producer...

Crossing my fingers for the unbiased opinions as and when they come....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 18 May, 2012, 12:35:44 AM
Oh, and I hope that's not the official movie logo, looks a bit... naff.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 18 May, 2012, 12:58:26 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2012, 12:30:51 AM
Quote from: Stan on 18 May, 2012, 12:28:27 AM
I hadn't really considered the huge collar restricting movement in such a way that it forces the helmet right up over the nose. That's a slightly annoying screw up if true.


I haven't seen the neck-brace touching the helmet at all in any of the photos.

I haven't either. Just wondering if certain scenes have caused some to fiddle with the helmet's positioning. To be honest though, I don't even recall thinking about it when viewing the showreel footage. Maybe it's just one of those things that is only visible in stills.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 18 May, 2012, 12:59:47 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2012, 12:26:58 AM
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/7379/cannesdredd.jpg

And there was me posting the crappy version on Facebook. Ta.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 18 May, 2012, 01:29:13 AM
I like the retro vibe of the logo, but it does seem quite a sloppy job in general.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2012, 01:41:56 AM
It is more likely created by the Hollywood Reporter for the cover of their magazine. The whole image is photoshopped to fuck.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 18 May, 2012, 02:02:50 AM
Ypou've been quite the busy beaver today, Joe, and long may you continue, sterling work :thumbsup: !  Great news all round regarding Dredd's first public screening, but is that pic on the 'Hollywood Reporter' a photo or drawing... it wouldn't perhaps be work Jock did for the movie!?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 18 May, 2012, 02:42:11 AM
It's a good thing it's on the cover of Hollywood Reporter, right? Or am I just clutching at straws?

I mean, they could have gone for Looper or something with more well-known stars/material. Right?

Or does each film have their own 'daily' leaflet/mag/poster thing?

Regardless, very happy-making just to get something new :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 18 May, 2012, 02:55:07 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2012, 01:41:56 AM
It is more likely created by the Hollywood Reporter for the cover of their magazine. The whole image is photoshopped to fuck.

I did wonder what those blobby spark things were meant to be.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 18 May, 2012, 03:18:04 AM
Nice find Joe! Those Judges in that pic on the previous page correct me if im wrong but arent Judges supposed to be a certain regulation height ? Because by the look of them they look like jimps to me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 18 May, 2012, 05:03:54 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2012, 09:58:38 PM
This pic is from the ipad version of Empire magazine released last September which allows you to view their printed pictures in two different formats, generally.


Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 17 May, 2012, 05:53:23 PM
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k192/danbo1138/dredd_3d_.jpg)
Thats why I was a little hesitant,felt familiar although I had never seen it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 18 May, 2012, 05:40:42 AM
Seems like Dredd is doing great in Cannes. (maybe november coming soon)

http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/cloud-atlas-dredd-looper-magic-mike-cannes-screenings/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 18 May, 2012, 08:23:08 AM
I'm really excited about this film, and can't wait to see the whole thing for myself. The advance press about its gritty look, etc, is intriguing.

Judge Lex looks fantastic. But - and I really hate to say this - the way the helmets of the other three judges are sitting, particularly the two foremost ones, look ridiculous. I'm kinda perturbed that outfits that characters looking that silly are showing up in the promo shots. Am I alone in this?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2012, 09:08:32 AM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 18 May, 2012, 02:42:11 AMI mean, they could have gone for Looper or something with more well-known stars/material. Right?


It's a daily magazine for each day of Cannes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 May, 2012, 09:14:38 AM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 18 May, 2012, 05:40:42 AM
Seems like Dredd is doing great in Cannes. (maybe november coming soon)

http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/cloud-atlas-dredd-looper-magic-mike-cannes-screenings/

Of today's Dredd screening, IM Global's Stuart Ford says, "The reaction was great. It was as packed as any screening I've seen in Cannes. There were people sitting on the floor in the front and the back of the room." (And that was after the air-conditioning had gone on the blink just ahead of the movie; Ford says there were no walkouts, "even though it was about a hundred degrees.") Dredd, directed by Pete Travis, stars Karl Urban, Olivia Thirlby and Lena Headey. It's a project that would also normally have been set up at a studio, but instead, Reliance Big Entertainment and IM Global financed DNA Films' $40M adaptation of the UK comic created by John Wagner and illustrated by Carlos Ezquerra. Today's screening allowed "people who bought it for a lot of money 18 months ago" to get a look at what Ford says is "an edgy, cool film with a rocking soundtrack." Compared to other superhero pictures coming down the pike, Ford says it "appears very fresh and distinctive. It's Dirty Harry meets District 9." Lionsgate is releasing in the U.S. on September 21 and there are two territories remaining that Ford expects to close possibly "before the evening is out."

Nice!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Radbacker on 18 May, 2012, 09:45:32 AM
QuoteLionsgate is releasing in the U.S. on September 21 and there are two territories remaining that Ford expects to close possibly "before the evening is out."
Okay that terrifies me, does this mean that Dredd only has distributuion in the US and UK at the moment?  I really need an answer if anyone official can just put my mind at rest, this is gonna get an Australian Cinema release isn't it? this talk of territories worries me that us being a smaller market on the other side of the world may just not be an important enough market for anyone to bother releasing it, please someone tell me i'm just being paranoid!

CU Radabcker
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 18 May, 2012, 09:49:16 AM
If there are only 2 territories remaining and they are expected to be closed by the end of the day, you needn't worry either way shirly?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 18 May, 2012, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 18 May, 2012, 09:14:38 AMDNA Films' $40M adaptation of the UK comic created by John Wagner and illustrated by Carlos Ezquerra.

Isn't it nice to hear it called that instead of "reboot of the 1995 Stallone film" for a change? :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 18 May, 2012, 10:30:02 AM
All good news. To be fair, apart from the one piece of negative news that could be explained away as simply a negative spin on something innocent, and the forum eating itself over every snippet of info, pretty much everything about this film has been positive. OK a lot of it has been from people with a vested interest in it, but we are starting to get very positive feedback from individuals too which is all very encouraging.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 18 May, 2012, 10:31:54 AM
Quote from: a chosen rider on 18 May, 2012, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 18 May, 2012, 09:14:38 AMDNA Films' $40M adaptation of the UK comic created by John Wagner and illustrated by Carlos Ezquerra.

Isn't it nice to hear it called that instead of "reboot of the 1995 Stallone film" for a change? :D

Yeah, but they spoil it by referring to it as a superhero film...

Quotewe are starting to get very positive feedback from individuals too which is all very encouraging.

Where/when?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 18 May, 2012, 10:33:28 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 18 May, 2012, 09:49:16 AMIf there are only 2 territories remaining and they are expected to be closed by the end of the day, you needn't worry either way shirly?
As I recall, Dredd was sold remarkably early to most territories, and so my reading of that is only a couple remain, and those were likely to be sorted during Cannes.

On the helmets, I'm not sure what's going on there, but it's probably a disconnect between the comic-book design and an attempt to create a proper, working helmet. Odd, really, because it's the one aspect of the movie uniform I'm not convinced by. Perhaps they should have had the option to rework it a little more, in the same manner as the shoulder eagle, which looks great. Still, slightly high helmets or not, I'm still hopeful about this film, which is more than can be said in the mid-1990s about the last one.

And, yeah, great for someone to finally say adaptation rather than reboot. The latter suggests a conscious effort to rework a series (i.e. Spider-Man, Battlestar Galactica), but the former is certainly more suitable for another studio adapting the same original property. Dredd is no more a reboot than Bay's Transformers is a 'reboot' of the 1986 animation.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 18 May, 2012, 10:37:18 AM
Quote from: radiator on 18 May, 2012, 10:31:54 AM
Quotewe are starting to get very positive feedback from individuals too which is all very encouraging.

Where/when?
Well not directly but if indeed the screenings were well received this is good. Admittedly we'd need comments directly from the people in there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 18 May, 2012, 10:39:55 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2012, 01:41:56 AM
It is more likely created by the Hollywood Reporter for the cover of their magazine. The whole image is photoshopped to fuck.

Yes, but why did they need to do that?Why weren't they handed something better by the PR dept (if one exists), and given a top notch image to use, preferably something new?Not seen any official promo material whatsoever and this is Cannes!(Apologies Joe Soap for doubting you on the screening by the way).Surely an official poster should have been done by now for events like this or at least a movie board.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 18 May, 2012, 10:50:23 AM
QuoteWell not directly but if indeed the screenings were well received this is good. Admittedly we'd need comments directly from the people in there.

Precisely. All we have so far is the word of the guy who bankrolled the film, who is bound to say positive things about it. The 'positive buzz' is only being reported by sites too amateurish to actually read and analyse exactly what they are reporting.

By the sounds of it the screening was for exhibitors, distributors and other industry types, not a press screening so we're unlikely to hear any unbiased impressions about it for the time being...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 18 May, 2012, 11:28:11 AM
Quote from: radiator on 18 May, 2012, 10:50:23 AM
By the sounds of it the screening was for exhibitors, distributors and other industry types, not a press screening so we're unlikely to hear any unbiased impressions about it for the time being...

Well.. Considering there were no (reported) walk outs, despite the heat, then clearly none of the industry chaps thought is wasn't worth their time, and thus money.. I reckon that's a pretty good sign.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 18 May, 2012, 11:56:06 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 May, 2012, 02:03:39 PM
Don't tell anyone else Pete, just ring me with the info and I won't blow your Block up  ;)

Am I the only one to have read that as.. "...ring me with the info and I won't blow your cock off"?

:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 18 May, 2012, 01:02:42 PM
Also, the fact people were sitting on the floor to watch it is comforting.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 18 May, 2012, 01:28:38 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 18 May, 2012, 01:02:42 PM
Also, the fact people were sitting on the floor to watch it is comforting.


"IM Global's Stuart Ford says...".  No vested interests in that report whatsoever, nosiree.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 18 May, 2012, 01:40:07 PM
There's nothing Dredd related inside that Hollywood Reporter mag with the Dredd cover. The covers of the Cannes daily editions are advertising space, and that Photocrap picture is purely to promote the film.

I hope the official publicity campaign provides prettier photos than we've seen thus far.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 May, 2012, 01:51:03 PM
You'd hope so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 18 May, 2012, 03:52:11 PM
The Hollywood Reporter cover is like some Photoshop abomination from the 80's 8-x
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Large48 on 18 May, 2012, 07:04:37 PM
Release date was said to be 7th September not 21st? of have I missed that discussion?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 May, 2012, 07:06:06 PM
Quote from: Large48 on 18 May, 2012, 07:04:37 PM
Release date was said to be 7th September not 21st? of have I missed that discussion?

Yes. 7th is for UK, 21st for US.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mr.Fastrope on 18 May, 2012, 07:39:23 PM
what about rest of the europe?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 18 May, 2012, 10:26:58 PM
The rest of Europe will see it when we do probably .... bar Greece and Spain as their euro's will be worthless and won't cover the cost of admission into the cinema.  :-X
 
Oops!  Political thread!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 18 May, 2012, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 18 May, 2012, 10:26:58 PM
The rest of Europe will see it when we do probably .... bar Greece and Spain as their euro's will be worthless and won't cover the cost of admission into the cinema.  :-X
 
Oops!  Political thread!

Who are you? Ben Elton?  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 18 May, 2012, 10:35:54 PM
No walk outs, even with a banged aircon, even sitting people on the floor with the numbers of 1 or 40 or whatever, some ppl had to sit on the floor, and yes, even all ppl in there being bankroller, and yeah, even the IMGlobal boss speaking for all, it all indicates one for me: They really really wanted to see the movie, nothing could them stop. And for me this means: We will also :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2012, 11:04:43 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 18 May, 2012, 10:35:54 PM
No walk outs, even with a banged aircon, even sitting people on the floor with the numbers of 1 or 40 or whatever, some ppl had to sit on the floor


They were locked in.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 18 May, 2012, 11:16:39 PM
*snort* Oh boys.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 18 May, 2012, 11:41:11 PM
Just re-read what I wrote in my previous post.. Makes no sense..

I wonder if the ushers were armed to persuade people nicely to stay and watch.?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 18 May, 2012, 11:47:06 PM
In Judge Costumes? yum yum
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 19 May, 2012, 03:22:27 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 18 May, 2012, 09:14:38 AM
It's a project that would also normally have been set up at a studio, but instead, Reliance Big Entertainment and IM Global financed DNA Films' $40M adaptation of the UK comic created by John Wagner and illustrated by Carlos Ezquerra.

Thought it was $45m, according to every report since it got greenlit?  I'll say one thing though, after seeing that pic of the three Judges, I'm darn glad it's a British production company doing this adaptation, there's no way an American production would have designed them that way, they would have them looking more like Batman without the cape (and bat-ears), not the fascist stormtroopers they should look like, and indeed do on this film... roll on September 7th...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 19 May, 2012, 03:26:31 AM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 18 May, 2012, 11:16:39 PM
*snort* Oh boys.

We've been here before, KUI, and had nothing but ghastly photocovers and misguided logos to show for it.  Fool me once....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 19 May, 2012, 03:36:40 AM
@tordel: I do not understand what you mean *english is not my main language* but I am on yours side. There`s nothing better as fine first source material. Clean and HQ and official. And all wrapped in positive hope. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 19 May, 2012, 03:37:13 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 19 May, 2012, 03:22:27 AM
I'll say one thing though, after seeing that pic of the three Judges, I'm darn glad it's a British production company doing this adaptation

Woops, upon closer inspection, it's actually FOUR Judges, missed that one in the back... "aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?" indeed...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 19 May, 2012, 07:42:07 AM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 19 May, 2012, 03:36:40 AM
@tordel: I do not understand what you mean *english is not my main language* but I am on yours side. There`s nothing better as fine first source material. Clean and HQ and official. And all wrapped in positive hope. :)

Don't worry KUF. It's not his first language either.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 19 May, 2012, 08:00:06 AM
Quote from: George Dread on 19 May, 2012, 07:42:07 AM
Don't worry KUF. It's not his first language either.

True, my native tongue is the language of luurrve.  I admire and partly share your optimism, KUF, I just can't help thinking about the disappointments of the past.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 19 May, 2012, 08:03:59 AM
Why are we calling KUI, KUF? I mean, I know why I am but what are you up to? Sorry KUI.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 19 May, 2012, 08:09:51 AM
Quote from: George Dread on 19 May, 2012, 08:03:59 AM
Why are we calling KUI, KUF? I mean, I know why I am but what are you up to?

Grotesque hangover and 2 hours sleep are my only excuses.  Apologies, KUI.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 19 May, 2012, 04:06:17 PM
Hollywood reporters slightly different Dredd Cover. Similar to one we've seen already but thought you'd all might want to see.

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg86/ToadyCat/cannesdredd.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 19 May, 2012, 04:45:34 PM
Wants the boots and gloves for my motorbike.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 19 May, 2012, 05:50:29 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 19 May, 2012, 04:45:34 PM
Wants the boots and gloves for my motorbike.

Your motorbike has hands and feet?

:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 19 May, 2012, 05:54:55 PM
Haha I walked into that one...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mr.Fastrope on 19 May, 2012, 09:00:34 PM
Also you need knee pads. Just in case :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 19 May, 2012, 09:12:38 PM
Probably best to get the elbows too,y'know for symmetry and all that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mr.Fastrope on 19 May, 2012, 10:27:23 PM
I'm talking about safety :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 May, 2012, 10:28:03 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 19 May, 2012, 04:06:17 PM
Hollywood reporters slightly different Dredd Cover. Similar to one we've seen already but thought you'd all might want to see.


In what way is it different? Looks the same as the one I put up yesterday:


http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,34200.2685.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mr.Fastrope on 19 May, 2012, 10:31:05 PM
nope your pic is a little bit big :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 May, 2012, 10:54:55 PM
Quote from: Mr.Fastrope on 19 May, 2012, 10:31:05 PM
nope your pic is a little bit big :)


or your screen is too small.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: minus on 19 May, 2012, 11:28:35 PM
Well done the Hollywood Reporter! Great piece of design work. Loving the Star Wars-esque perspective on the COMING FALL 2012 font. This has really got me excited.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 May, 2012, 11:55:10 PM
Quote from: minus on 19 May, 2012, 11:28:35 PM
Well done the Hollywood Reporter! Great piece of design work. Loving the Star Wars-esque perspective on the COMING FALL 2012 font. This has really got me excited.

[ sarcasm]Yes they must have worked so hard getting the depth, lighting, kerning just right on those fonts. A graphical masterpiece if im not mistaken.[ /sarcasm]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 20 May, 2012, 12:02:07 AM
It actually looks more like someone just made a good image really bad by messing with it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 May, 2012, 12:46:09 AM
Be thankful they not use Scojo's verison!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 20 May, 2012, 12:59:21 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 20 May, 2012, 12:02:07 AM
It actually looks more like someone just made a good image really bad by messing with it.

Like half the CGI in the prequels. True to the source then..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 20 May, 2012, 09:19:48 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 September, 2011, 11:51:16 PM
it will be 12 months next Monday,

With a new fan poster I created, with Jock style of Dredd, been email Jock the poster first, then got his reply "Ha, thats brilliant goaty. Cheers!" :-)

(http://i.imgur.com/h9Hh0.jpg)
This poster is so much better :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 20 May, 2012, 10:14:04 AM
Quote from: Psidude on 20 May, 2012, 09:19:48 AMThis poster is so much better :D

Agreed!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 20 May, 2012, 10:17:56 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 20 May, 2012, 10:14:04 AM
Quote from: Psidude on 20 May, 2012, 09:19:48 AMThis poster is so much better :D

Agreed!

Seconded!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 20 May, 2012, 11:17:29 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 May, 2012, 10:28:03 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 19 May, 2012, 04:06:17 PM
Hollywood reporters slightly different Dredd Cover. Similar to one we've seen already but thought you'd all might want to see.
In what way is it different? Looks the same as the one I put up yesterday:
http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,34200.2685.html

Ah didn't see this Joe! I'm so behind the times. Forget how quickly this thread can move!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 20 May, 2012, 08:04:40 PM
I'm being patient, I swear I'm not going back on being patient until TPTB give us something, but I have to say - the secrecy on this is incredible! I mean, a screening took place! - and what? We have one insider report and one photoshopped cover to show for it.

That's just incredible. Were all involved threatened with the wrath of god or something?

I know TPTB here have hinted at holding back stuff, but even if they do, you'd think others out there would let something slip, accidental or otherwise. Just one wee slip.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 May, 2012, 08:16:04 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 20 May, 2012, 08:04:40 PM
I'm being patient, I swear I'm not going back on being patient until TPTB give us something, but I have to say - the secrecy on this is incredible! I mean, a screening took place! - and what? We have one insider report and one photoshopped cover to show for it.

That's just incredible. Were all involved threatened with the wrath of god or something?

I know TPTB here have hinted at holding back stuff, but even if they do, you'd think others out there would let something slip, accidental or otherwise. Just one wee slip.

Is that you, Scojo?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 May, 2012, 09:20:56 PM
No.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 20 May, 2012, 09:40:24 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 20 May, 2012, 08:16:04 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 20 May, 2012, 08:04:40 PM
I'm being patient, I swear I'm not going back on being patient until TPTB give us something, but I have to say - the secrecy on this is incredible! I mean, a screening took place! - and what? We have one insider report and one photoshopped cover to show for it.

That's just incredible. Were all involved threatened with the wrath of god or something?

I know TPTB here have hinted at holding back stuff, but even if they do, you'd think others out there would let something slip, accidental or otherwise. Just one wee slip.

Is that you, Scojo?

To be fair, there's nothing negative about the film itself in that post. Just a comment on the lack of publicity concerning the film which many share. Largely those whose views are actually positive about the film. (Personally I'm not that bothered, although I'll lap up the trailers when they appear.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 20 May, 2012, 09:42:37 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 20 May, 2012, 09:40:24 PM
Largely those whose views are actually positive about the film.

That should read, "Largely by those whose views are actually positive concerning the film".

Come back Modify button!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 20 May, 2012, 09:56:31 PM
At this rate we could start a bet on when the trailer hits.

I'm going to say... this Wednesday!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 20 May, 2012, 10:56:10 PM
I wonder why they didn't start building anticipation with a viral campaign like 'David 8' or the Weyland Ind. site....or even interviews, a site even. It's not new to Ridley Scott. VW did a great viral years ago, a lot of people fell for it at first, thought it real, it featured an amateur roboticist.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 May, 2012, 11:04:28 PM
Thanks Psidude, TordelBack and Judge Jack

as was create that poster for laughs, as did this fan poster too as in another thread

http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,35211.0.html (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,35211.0.html)

(http://i.imgur.com/e7hqx.jpg)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 20 May, 2012, 11:37:19 PM
I quite liked this fan poster. Simple, but effective.

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2wo8yf8.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 21 May, 2012, 01:54:10 AM
That was actually real curiosity on my part, re the seriously good job they're doing keeping everyone from talking. I'm not in the industry, pretty clueless how they do things, so I was hoping someone would chirp in with some info.

And I'm totally in agreement with PR waiting until all the big ones have left the stage. Once I take the desperately keen fan in me out of the equation, it makes perfect sense.

As for that S-word, stop bringing it up, Goaty.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 21 May, 2012, 02:33:20 AM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 20 May, 2012, 08:04:40 PM
Were all involved threatened with the wrath of god or something?

I suspect that the thrill of "telling people now what they'll know anyway in three months' time" doesn't really balance well with "losing your hard-earned career in the movie industry and plunging your family into poverty".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 21 May, 2012, 02:48:14 AM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 21 May, 2012, 01:54:10 AMAs for that S-word, stop bringing it up, Goaty.

I think thoust protesteth too mucheth. :witchhunt:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 21 May, 2012, 07:20:52 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 20 May, 2012, 11:37:19 PM
I quite liked this fan poster. Simple, but effective.

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2wo8yf8.jpg)

Nice one...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 21 May, 2012, 07:57:28 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 21 May, 2012, 02:33:20 AM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 20 May, 2012, 08:04:40 PM
Were all involved threatened with the wrath of god or something?
"losing your hard-earned career in the movie industry and plunging your family into poverty".

So, that's a yes. Well, colour me still impressed that not even a word or three - 'awesome!' or 'sucks donkey balls' - escaped.

Quote from: Stan on 21 May, 2012, 02:48:14 AM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 21 May, 2012, 01:54:10 AMAs for that S-word, stop bringing it up, Goaty.

I think thoust protesteth too mucheth. :witchhunt:

I'll witchhunteth you, Stan, oh yesseth I willeth.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 21 May, 2012, 01:19:19 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 21 May, 2012, 01:54:10 AM
re the seriously good job they're doing keeping everyone from talking.



To be fair though, although now they are keeping things pretty tight, the majority of pictures that we have seen are leaked, and there was those snippets of footage, and the script.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 21 May, 2012, 04:08:00 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 21 May, 2012, 07:57:28 AM
I'll witchhunteth you, Stan, oh yesseth I willeth.

:D :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 21 May, 2012, 08:08:04 PM
(http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/7909792/1024/various/Judge-Dredd-film-poster.jpg)

Just had a little googleothon regarding Dredd Movie and found this!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 21 May, 2012, 08:09:33 PM
This is the site and gallery where it came from.

http://namer123.picturepush.com/album/192818/7909792/various/Judge-Dredd-film-poster.html#column2::/album/192818/detail/7998506 (http://namer123.picturepush.com/album/192818/7909792/various/Judge-Dredd-film-poster.html#column2::/album/192818/detail/7998506)

If nothing else keeps the thread alive for a while :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 21 May, 2012, 08:15:03 PM
Looks remarkably like the JTPegg picture from the Comp! Maybe old JT was working for THARG all along!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 May, 2012, 08:16:31 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 21 May, 2012, 08:09:33 PM
This is the site and gallery where it came from.

http://namer123.picturepush.com/album/192818/7909792/various/Judge-Dredd-film-poster.html#column2::/album/192818/detail/7998506 (http://namer123.picturepush.com/album/192818/7909792/various/Judge-Dredd-film-poster.html#column2::/album/192818/detail/7998506)

If nothing else keeps the thread alive for a while :)

Oh I hate those, it from You-Know-Who  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 21 May, 2012, 08:27:57 PM
JT Peggs memorable entry. Still looks great.

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg86/ToadyCat/JDPOSTERcolourupJTPEGG.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 21 May, 2012, 08:52:50 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 21 May, 2012, 08:08:04 PM
(http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/7909792/1024/various/Judge-Dredd-film-poster.jpg)

Just had a little googleothon regarding Dredd Movie and found this!

Work of the dreaded Sco*o.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 21 May, 2012, 09:08:56 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 21 May, 2012, 08:27:57 PM
JT Peggs memorable entry. Still looks great.

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg86/ToadyCat/JDPOSTERcolourupJTPEGG.jpg)

That looks AWESOME!If we get something like that that would be great.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 21 May, 2012, 09:44:15 PM
HEY! That's not my Lawgiver!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 21 May, 2012, 10:05:16 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 21 May, 2012, 09:44:15 PM
HEY! That's not my Lawgiver!!!

...as Judge Dredd said to Anderson as they fumbled in the dark.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 21 May, 2012, 10:08:11 PM
Why is it that when you bugger up a quote and a comment , the modify button isn't there. One of lifes little mysteries...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 21 May, 2012, 10:30:44 PM
Jeez if I knew it was from hewhoshallnotbenamed I wouldnt have posted it :/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 21 May, 2012, 10:35:35 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 21 May, 2012, 10:30:44 PM
Jeez if I knew it was from hewhoshallnotbenamed I wouldnt have posted it :/

It's okay, just wash your hands a few times and you should be fine.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 21 May, 2012, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 21 May, 2012, 10:35:35 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 21 May, 2012, 10:30:44 PM
Jeez if I knew it was from hewhoshallnotbenamed I wouldnt have posted it :/

It's okay, just wash your hands a few times and you should be fine.

Yeah, if you just go with Judge Vass here he has a hover-transport waiting to take you to the, errr, decontamination area.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 22 May, 2012, 08:39:30 AM
No doubt this has been mentioned but it Looks like a hip holster, not a boot holster, in the film stills.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 22 May, 2012, 10:05:32 AM
http://youtu.be/r3RxfuDbhTc

has this been posted yet ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 22 May, 2012, 10:16:56 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 22 May, 2012, 10:05:32 AM
http://youtu.be/r3RxfuDbhTc

has this been posted yet ?

Yes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 22 May, 2012, 11:53:20 AM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 22 May, 2012, 10:16:56 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 22 May, 2012, 10:05:32 AM
http://youtu.be/r3RxfuDbhTc

has this been posted yet ?

Yes.

Be that as it may, I hadn't seen it, so thanks!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 22 May, 2012, 01:30:41 PM
Ditto! not seen this interview, . . . thankyou. Very interesting as it reinforces everything we all ready know. The modern musical score sounds great (hope there is a bit of Linkin Park in there somewhere).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 May, 2012, 01:39:43 PM
Quotehope there is a bit of Linkin Park in there somewhere

I certainly don't. Linkin Park suck.

The soundtrack is being composed by Paul Leonard-Morgan, and apparently it's going to be quite synth-heavy - with any luck it'll sound quite similar to DROKK.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 22 May, 2012, 01:53:55 PM
C'mon you cant knock Linkin park .. you know the one that goes tinkle tinkle on the piano, whisper whisper, tinkle tinkle shout. ... oh wait. That's all of them. Looks like you are right radiator.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 22 May, 2012, 02:32:56 PM
Hip holster makes more sense if you are stood up...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 22 May, 2012, 02:41:00 PM
I've never been stood up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 22 May, 2012, 03:09:17 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 22 May, 2012, 10:05:32 AM
http://youtu.be/r3RxfuDbhTc


'Deadpan'  - I love that. Please be deadpan. If that turns out to be a lie, I'm going to come back here after the movie and whine like you wouldn't believe. Fear me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 22 May, 2012, 03:27:59 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 22 May, 2012, 10:16:56 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 22 May, 2012, 10:05:32 AM
http://youtu.be/r3RxfuDbhTc

has this been posted yet ?

Yes.

Is this the same producer who gave that quote from the Cannes screening?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 22 May, 2012, 03:42:24 PM
Burn it down by Linking Park as part of the rocking score described in the interview would be awesome.  If it sounds anything like DROKK...then oh! dear!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 May, 2012, 04:21:08 PM
He said 'contemporary', not 'dated, tedious nu-metal cack'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 May, 2012, 04:24:36 PM
If this is the song you mean, then sorry but it would be more at home on an episode of 90210 or One Tree Hill than a Dredd movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm1WOBqT0hA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm1WOBqT0hA)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 22 May, 2012, 04:29:57 PM
wasnt that track played over the credits of the last Dredd film :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 May, 2012, 05:01:03 PM
Linking Park would ruin this film completely.

I like the sound of Drokk too, sounded a lot like early John Carpenter soundtracks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 22 May, 2012, 05:01:47 PM
Gotta agree with radiator - that reminds me too much of Robert Miles and Sash.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 22 May, 2012, 05:09:45 PM
Just listened to DROKK, lawmaster/pursuit one, and I don't like that either - too TRONesque.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 22 May, 2012, 05:22:35 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 22 May, 2012, 03:27:59 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 22 May, 2012, 10:16:56 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 22 May, 2012, 10:05:32 AM
http://youtu.be/r3RxfuDbhTc

has this been posted yet ?

Yes.

Does nobody know?

Is this the same producer who gave that quote from the Cannes screening?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 22 May, 2012, 05:25:10 PM
Drokk are shite..sorry
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 May, 2012, 05:45:30 PM
DROKK is an album, not a band.

While it took a little time to grow on me, I actually think its kinda brilliant, would've really suited the tone of the film DREDD is going to be. It reminds me of the best recent movie soundtracks, such as Attack the Block, Sunshine, Drive and, yes, Tron: Legacy.

And yes the bloke in the linked interview is Stuart Ford, the same guy behind the Cannes quotes. While he is obviously going to say positive things about the film (his company paid for it), he at least seems to know exactly what he's talking about. Deadpan' is a good choice of word to describe Dredd - and he seems to understand the whole appeal of the character - he may not be 'likable', but there's no one you'd rather have on your side in a tight spot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 22 May, 2012, 05:51:10 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 22 May, 2012, 05:25:10 PM
Drokk are shite..sorry

To quote Geoff Barrow of DROKK; you either get it or you don't. You don't.

It's definitely not 'shite'. I don't know if it would be right for the film though, as it certainly wears it's retro influences on it's sleeve. I suspect we'll be hearing a much more modern sounding electronic soundtrack.

For the love of grud, please, no heavy metal. Especially not Anthrax or Linkin (I don't like them but at least I can spell their name) Park.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 22 May, 2012, 06:01:11 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 21 May, 2012, 10:08:11 PM
Why is it that when you bugger up a quote and a comment , the modify button isn't there. One of lifes little mysteries...

Yeah, that's really annoying. My spleling is always crap the first time round.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 22 May, 2012, 06:05:13 PM
What about Cliff Martinez? That Drive soundtrack was arsom
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 May, 2012, 06:21:16 PM
It all depends on the tone they are going for -for a more humorous, Bisley-styled cgi-heavy, Sin City/300 take on the character a rock soundtrack would probably work quite well - but for the type of film they have actually made, ambient/moody electronica seems by far the best fit IMO.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 May, 2012, 06:44:33 PM
Greg Staples said this on his facebook:

I love the new design, it's really grown on me. He's obviously wearing some kind of riot gear covering his leathers. I'm hearing good things from the inside and believe me after the Stallone one they wouldn't go easy on it.I think it will feel very '2000ad'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 May, 2012, 07:38:33 PM
I think the soundtrack should definitely be electronic and synth based, to give it a cool futuristic, yet at the same time, retro feel.

One of the things I have really liked about what I have seen so far is it looks like a film set in the future, but made in the 70s/80s.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 22 May, 2012, 08:01:56 PM
I was thinking along the lines of that techno number from Shogun Assassin
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 22 May, 2012, 08:05:46 PM
Escape from New York springs to mind.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 22 May, 2012, 08:31:20 PM
Still think a track along the lines of this would fit in nicely.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTzfdgAIX5I&feature=share (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTzfdgAIX5I&feature=share)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 22 May, 2012, 08:33:55 PM
...or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdXrvhMEQeU&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdXrvhMEQeU&feature=relmfu)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 22 May, 2012, 09:31:57 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 22 May, 2012, 06:44:33 PM
Greg Staples said this on his facebook:

I love the new design, it's really grown on me. He's obviously wearing some kind of riot gear covering his leathers. I'm hearing good things from the inside and believe me after the Stallone one they wouldn't go easy on it.I think it will feel very '2000ad'.

|That is a great quote!If it 'feels' even close to 2000ad we'll be very happy.

Pop Quiz Joe Soap -is the video interview with one of the producers the same producer who gave the quote at Cannes?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 May, 2012, 09:45:43 PM
Yes it is.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 May, 2012, 10:07:16 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 22 May, 2012, 08:31:20 PM
Still think a track along the lines of this would fit in nicely.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTzfdgAIX5I&feature=share (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTzfdgAIX5I&feature=share)



Not really feelin' it. Folksy Dredd don't jibe.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 22 May, 2012, 10:58:57 PM
Radiohead are a bit ..dare i say it ..bland for sound track album

these boys though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGLCPTxFk-g&feature=fvst

or this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd5jGcrFqAI
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 May, 2012, 11:03:06 PM
They have too much of a traditional timbre or sound palette for Dredd.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 22 May, 2012, 11:07:36 PM
I agree with Jim Campbell:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvu-ps2hiQs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvu-ps2hiQs)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 May, 2012, 11:14:18 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 22 May, 2012, 11:07:36 PM
I agree with Jim Campbell:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvu-ps2hiQs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvu-ps2hiQs)


Suitable all right...................if Michael Bay made a Dredd film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 22 May, 2012, 11:55:38 PM
So long as John Murphy's "In the House In a Heartbeat" doesn't feature. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSYYEDXaGo0

Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic piece of music used to great effect in "28 Days Later".  When it was regurgitated in "28 Weeks Later" I felt the power of the song was dilluted, and when it turned up in "Kick Ass" it only infuriated me.  In what was a pivotal scene, I felt distracted, thinking as I was "oh, that's the music from '28 Days Later'".  I don't want to be thinking about other films when I watch "Dredd"!

Enough about what I don't want, how about something like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSYYEDXaGo0
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 23 May, 2012, 01:46:16 AM
Quote from: The Bissler on 22 May, 2012, 11:55:38 PM
So long as John Murphy's "In the House In a Heartbeat" doesn't feature. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSYYEDXaGo0

Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic piece of music used to great effect in "28 Days Later".  When it was regurgitated in "28 Weeks Later" I felt the power of the song was dilluted, and when it turned up in "Kick Ass" it only infuriated me.  In what was a pivotal scene, I felt distracted, thinking as I was "oh, that's the music from '28 Days Later'".  I don't want to be thinking about other films when I watch "Dredd"!

Enough about what I don't want, how about something like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSYYEDXaGo0

I always thought that was Godspeed You Black Emperor sampled.

Oh wait it is! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/28_Days_Later:_The_Soundtrack_Album (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/28_Days_Later:_The_Soundtrack_Album)

"The second movement of "East Hastings" by the Canadian post-rock band Godspeed You! Black Emperor, albeit condensed, appeared in the movie but not on the soundtrack album."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mr.Fastrope on 23 May, 2012, 08:55:19 AM
Someone is put a comment in Judge Dredd Movie News Video..

'Wait. Never removes his helmet????'     LoL :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 23 May, 2012, 02:58:42 PM
Does anyone else think that when they finally do get round to putting out a trailer, they should do it likes this?

Cool voice over, and some fat funk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrJupVEG2Ks
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 23 May, 2012, 02:59:56 PM
And also show the whole story!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 May, 2012, 05:49:11 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 20 May, 2012, 09:56:31 PM
At this rate we could start a bet on when the trailer hits.

I'm going to say... this Wednesday!

I think I can says, you lost your bet  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 23 May, 2012, 06:08:56 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 23 May, 2012, 01:46:16 AM
Quote from: The Bissler on 22 May, 2012, 11:55:38 PM
So long as John Murphy's "In the House In a Heartbeat" doesn't feature. 

I always thought that was Godspeed You Black Emperor sampled.

Oh wait it is! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/28_Days_Later:_The_Soundtrack_Album (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/28_Days_Later:_The_Soundtrack_Album)

"The second movement of "East Hastings" by the Canadian post-rock band Godspeed You! Black Emperor, albeit condensed, appeared in the movie but not on the soundtrack album."

Well, actually they're two different pieces which both feature in the film. As much as In the House In a Heartbeat has become a bit of a cliche, I'll never forget the impact it made on me as that film came to its conclusion.

A mixture of Drive and 28 Days would suit Dredd well I think (from what I've seen of how the film looks). I hope it's not overly orchestrated.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 23 May, 2012, 06:21:58 PM
I know that trailers are linked to movies of the same distributor, but what're the odds we'll see it in front of prometheus?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 May, 2012, 06:23:28 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 23 May, 2012, 06:21:58 PM
I know that trailers are linked to movies of the same distributor, but what're the odds we'll see it in front of prometheus?

That what I thought too.... hope so...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 23 May, 2012, 06:44:10 PM
Sounds more likely then 'What to expect when you're expecting'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 May, 2012, 07:20:47 PM


You're all suffering from market parallax error by focusing on Lionsgate and what films a Dredd trailer will run with over here. Lionsgate didn't make the film and they have nothing to do with distribution/trailer-running in this part of the world, only in the U.S.

For us, Entertainment Films will be in charge of making the deals as to what films a Dredd trailer will play with.

Besides, we'll probably see it on the web beforehand.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 May, 2012, 07:24:02 PM
To clarify:


For us it's IMGLOBAL, DNA & ENTERTAINMENT FILMS http://www.entertainmentfilms.co.uk/


U.S.: Lionsgate.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 May, 2012, 07:24:52 PM
Well, I still bet on Prometheus!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 23 May, 2012, 08:12:59 PM
I'd like to think so, but I doubt it - my bet is not before San Diego.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 23 May, 2012, 09:48:46 PM
Ugh.. Lame. Why bother at all then?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 23 May, 2012, 10:10:08 PM
They don't have many upcoming films on their website.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 23 May, 2012, 10:11:19 PM
Ha, and none on their coming soon list!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 23 May, 2012, 10:13:57 PM
....and the DREDD PR machine rolls on!  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 23 May, 2012, 10:15:53 PM
I think it will be debuted on the internet as well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 23 May, 2012, 10:22:09 PM
Although I would love to see a trailer, I would be happy with a batch of nice hq images that have actually been intentionally released.

P.S sorry for all the multi-posting, but you know, no edit button.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 23 May, 2012, 10:58:15 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 23 May, 2012, 05:49:11 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 20 May, 2012, 09:56:31 PM
At this rate we could start a bet on when the trailer hits.

I'm going to say... this Wednesday!

I think I can says, you lost your bet  :D

There's still time!!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 May, 2012, 11:02:54 PM
Seeing how GI JOE II has just been yanked from release a month before its due date and delayed for another 9 months*, I reckon Dredd is in a pretty good position market and quality-wise.



http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/paramount-bumps-gi-joe-retaliation-328758







*The excuse given is that tthe studio all of a sudden has manifested a desire to convert the film to 3D, but, it's a finished sequel to a film that earned $300 million worldwide that's getting pulled one month before release?

I'd say the version of GIJII we see next March will be very different than the all ready completed film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 May, 2012, 11:26:02 PM
WTF of GI Joe 2? It's looks fine? Oh I blamed the 3D The Avengers!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 May, 2012, 11:33:02 PM
If they're willing to pull a finished film, a month from release, delay it for nearly a year and now spend another huge chunk of money on it, it isn't a great indication of quality. I think the 3D excuse is bullshit as they've completely lost the momentum built up by the trailer.

Maybe they audience tested it and it wan't going down well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 May, 2012, 11:47:56 PM
Agree with you, Mr Soap.

Did they learn about changes into 3D curse equals fail as Clash Of The Titans etc?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 May, 2012, 11:56:45 PM
The cosequences of the studio's actions are huge, apart from their own marketing spend, it means that all the distributor bookings, done-deal ancillary tie-ins like toys, lunch boxes, fast-food et al. have been fucked over and will lose a shite load of money.

They must really have no confidence in the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 24 May, 2012, 12:44:59 AM
First I've heard of that. It looked decent, in as far as a GI Joe sequel could look decent.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 24 May, 2012, 01:34:20 AM
According to someone on AICN's GI Joe forum the Dredd trailer's in front of Prometheus next week. Take that with as big a pinch of salt as you need...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 24 May, 2012, 01:44:24 AM
That would just be the icing on the cake - Prometheus AND first look at Dredd?  I think I just wee'd myself a little just at the mere potential for that rumour to be true!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 24 May, 2012, 01:46:46 AM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/thread/199475064

Up on IMDB as well...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 24 May, 2012, 02:33:05 AM
I completely forgot Prometheus was out at the beginning of next month. So little money and so many things to spend it on.

Though I suppose the cat doesn't really need Frontguard. Or food..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 24 May, 2012, 03:13:50 AM
Oh man, I really hope that's true!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 24 May, 2012, 04:05:27 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 24 May, 2012, 01:34:20 AM
According to someone on AICN's GI Joe forum the Dredd trailer's in front of Prometheus next week. Take that with as big a pinch of salt as you need...
Quote from: blackmocco on 24 May, 2012, 01:46:46 AM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/thread/199475064
Up on IMDB as well...

OH BABY... HERE WE GO!  I really hope that's the case, it certainly makes a lot of sense if it is, I was actually thinking about this sitting on the bog tonight :-[, and realized it's exactly two months between the release of Prometheus and the U.K. release of Dredd, and most trailers are issued around that time prior to release so the timing's right, plus the fact both films are adult-oriented sci-fi movies (in 3-D) also gives credence to this little scoop... is it just me or does anyone else here feel a little giddy right now at the prospect of FINALLY seeing some major Dredd footage of Karl and Olivia giving Lena what for?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 24 May, 2012, 04:34:00 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 24 May, 2012, 01:34:20 AM
According to someone on AICN's GI Joe forum the Dredd trailer's in front of Prometheus next week. Take that with as big a pinch of salt as you need...

Just back from the AICN board, and that's He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named posting under another of his many pseudonyms, but the 'scoop' didn't originate with him and I still believe/hope this news is correct...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 24 May, 2012, 04:58:49 AM
Yeah, was afraid of that on AICN that it was him. However in his defense, if we can venture that far, he's explosively excited about it. He posted on the Robocop remake one as well and it was all exclamation points and caps. Guess his negativity only goes as far...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 24 May, 2012, 05:02:22 AM
Dredd and Prometheus is too much awesome for my inner geek to comprehend,I may explode or something like scanners.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 24 May, 2012, 05:06:46 AM
@Blackmocco   He came round to the new Dredd about 6 months ago over on the Empire forum,,,slowly and begrudgingly but he did.Got all in a tizz about the Dreddy photos with the eagle...

Hes harmless anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Radbacker on 24 May, 2012, 06:46:36 AM
It would be nice if it was in front of Prometheus however i think this is just a case of the internet eating itself again as the only other place that i can find that mentions that fact is this thread a couple of pages back?  damn we need something people.

CU Radbacker
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 24 May, 2012, 07:31:14 AM
It would be nice if true.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 24 May, 2012, 08:40:33 AM
I was actually thinking about this sitting on the bog tonight :-[,  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 24 May, 2012, 08:43:41 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 24 May, 2012, 04:05:27 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 24 May, 2012, 01:34:20 AM
According to someone on AICN's GI Joe forum the Dredd trailer's in front of Prometheus next week. Take that with as big a pinch of salt as you need...
Quote from: blackmocco on 24 May, 2012, 01:46:46 AM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/thread/199475064
Up on IMDB as well...

I was actually thinking about this sitting on the bog tonight :-[,
:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 24 May, 2012, 09:53:40 AM
Very cool if true, though for me it will be a repeat of seeing the first Harry Potter in the cinema. I was mildly excited about the film, but the trailer for Fellowship of the Ring that played before it blew me away, so much that it sort of spoiled the Potter movie.

I'm going to see Prometheus in IMAX, wonder if they'll show it there...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 May, 2012, 12:00:44 PM
Quote from: radiator on 24 May, 2012, 09:53:40 AM
Very cool if true, though for me it will be a repeat of seeing the first Harry Potter in the cinema. I was mildly excited about the film, but the trailer for Fellowship of the Ring that played before it blew me away, so much that it sort of spoiled the Potter movie.

I'm going to see Prometheus in IMAX, wonder if they'll show it there...?

Watch the Dredd trailer in IMAX? Wow....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 24 May, 2012, 12:34:45 PM
Gaaah!  I wish a reputable source would give us an actual fact about the trailer!  The will it/won't it suspense is funting killing me !!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 24 May, 2012, 12:45:07 PM
It varies - I remember seeing some IMAX presentations (not the IMAX branches in the Odeon) which didn't have many trailers.

Unless it's actually shot in IMAX it's just a nice screen. The Dark Knight looked great in its IMAX sequences, although a lot of people I saw it with didn't notice the switch between that and the 35mm footage.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 24 May, 2012, 12:53:59 PM
Why do people feel the need to know in advance when the trailer will be out?

I'd be more excited itf I saw it blind, sat waiting for a film and BLAM! there is a Dredd trailer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 May, 2012, 12:59:00 PM
Quote from: Dark Bat King on 24 May, 2012, 12:53:59 PM
Why do people feel the need to know in advance when the trailer will be out?

I'd be more excited itf I saw it blind, sat waiting for a film and BLAM! there is a Dredd trailer.

Yes cos you're bat :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 24 May, 2012, 01:16:53 PM
QuoteWhy do people feel the need to know in advance when the trailer will be out?

I'd be more excited itf I saw it blind, sat waiting for a film and BLAM! there is a Dredd trailer.

Because they're excited to see it?

Why are you looking on a Dredd movie thread - presumably for a bit of news or rumours? Wouldn't it be better etc etc....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 24 May, 2012, 01:47:33 PM
I hope this is true. It would be too amazing!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 24 May, 2012, 02:39:52 PM
And let's remember that when the trailer isn't in front of Prometheus, we don't complain about it.
Y'all seemed to have convinced yourselves it's going to be there and are getting overexcited..!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 May, 2012, 04:09:16 PM
Honest I am excited to see Prometheus, as so far it looks great and creepy, with full-blown Science Fiction.

If Dredd trailer is include, that is fine, if not well, that's life.  :)

Cant wait for Prometheus, hope the subtitled version out near to 9th June so it would be nice birthday!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 24 May, 2012, 04:13:44 PM
Somebody shouted at me/other guys for going on about the trailerz and told us to go back to sleep until mid Julyish so I'm not expecting owt bar maybe a few piccys if we're lucky.New COD maps and Wheel of Time books are keeping me going.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 24 May, 2012, 06:47:29 PM
think dredd trailer will be on before the new spiderman july 3rd empire has dredd release as tbc?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 24 May, 2012, 07:36:57 PM
Rumour has it that the first screening of the DREDD teaser will be at Thought Bubble later this year.







:-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 May, 2012, 07:43:12 PM
I'm showing the trailer right now in my cellar  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 24 May, 2012, 07:50:59 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 May, 2012, 07:43:12 PM
I'm showing the trailer right now in my cellar  ;)
Gather the SWAT force! Converge!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 24 May, 2012, 10:30:55 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 24 May, 2012, 02:39:52 PM
And let's remember that when the trailer isn't in front of Prometheus, we don't complain about it.
Y'all seemed to have convinced yourselves it's going to be there and are getting overexcited..!

This here is a great point...
Quote from: radiator on 24 May, 2012, 01:16:53 PM
QuoteWhy do people feel the need to know in advance when the trailer will be out?

I'd be more excited if I saw it blind, sat waiting for a film and BLAM! there is a Dredd trailer.

Because they're excited to see it?

Why are you looking on a Dredd movie thread - presumably for a bit of news or rumours? Wouldn't it be better etc etc....

Well obviously... but if I saw the trailer in the cinema unexpectedly that'd be more exciting to me. Just an opinion, and really my question was rhetorical and only to lead to my point.

I'll probably check the trailer as soon as it comes out though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 24 May, 2012, 11:02:10 PM
That's how I saw the '95 trailer - completely by accident. Just sat there watching the trailers and up it pops! Couldn't bloody concentrate on the main film after that!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 25 May, 2012, 01:50:19 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 24 May, 2012, 04:05:27 AM
realized it's exactly two months between the release of Prometheus and the U.K. release of Dredd

Think it's prudent to point out here I got the above wrong, it's actually THREE months between the releases of Prometheus and Dredd, damn my numerical deficiencies ::), that humble admission aside, I don't think it likely that the Dredd trailer will be released a whole three months in advance of release, I'm no longer going to make predictions about the trailer, I'll just clam up and wait for it in good and due course, when it arrives it arrives, good enough for me...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 25 May, 2012, 08:04:15 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 25 May, 2012, 01:50:19 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 24 May, 2012, 04:05:27 AM
realized it's exactly two months between the release of Prometheus and the U.K. release of Dredd

Think it's prudent to point out here I got the above wrong, it's actually THREE months between the releases of Prometheus and Dredd, damn my numerical deficiencies ::), that humble admission aside, I don't think it likely that the Dredd trailer will be released a whole three months in advance of release, I'm no longer going to make predictions about the trailer, I'll just clam up and wait for it in good and due course, when it arrives it arrives, good enough for me...

I don't think it unreasonable to assume that the trailer could be released three months ahead of advance.  The Bond trailer is already out and that film isn't due out until the end of October.  Given that it is also a Sci-fi film (and a reimagining of a previous film), perhaps a better point of reference would be the new Total Recall film.  The trailer came out roughly three months ahead of release so wouldn't it be fair to expect that Dredd might do the same?  Total Recall is reported to have a $200 million budget so I'd accept that comparisons aren't completely fair, but the release date of the trailer shouldn't really have much bearing on budgetary concerns.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 25 May, 2012, 10:30:14 AM
The Bond thing is a teaser for a massively successful series with a colossal marketing budget.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 25 May, 2012, 01:46:38 PM
If they are playing their cards close to their chest its for good reasons, esp with the current climate.

Check out the latest GI Joe film- 5 weeks (!) before scheduled and advertised release, including Superbowl ads, virals etc,  etc etc etc- its pulled back to release next year ' To add 3D'.

http://entertainment.time.com/2012/05/24/3500091/

Go figure.

That extra work and wasted marketing alone will probably cost them the total budget of Dredd-  especially so late in post.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 25 May, 2012, 01:53:10 PM
I think they saw how The Avengers completely destroyed Battleship at the US box office, and figured The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus were going to do the same for GIJ2.

Tbh I don't think Dredd is competing in the same playing field as those types of films - it doesn't need to make such an insane amount of money to break even.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 25 May, 2012, 01:57:17 PM
My hope is Dredd will do a Hellboy. If it can rake in ~$70m, it'll be laughing. My hope is it doesn't do a Serenity—or worse.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 25 May, 2012, 02:40:20 PM
Quietly confident that although Dredd will start slow in reaping a fanbase and cash,  it will accrue a cult following akin to how DonnieDarko grew with its fanbase. Thats my hopes for it and if it replicates that similar vein ill be happy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 May, 2012, 02:42:47 PM
Quote from: radiator on 25 May, 2012, 01:53:10 PM
I think they saw how The Avengers completely destroyed Battleship at the US box office, and figured The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus were going to do the same for GIJ2.


From screenings the whole thing was reported, apparently,  to be a mess, if it'd been a solid film they would've just put it out or delayed it till September/October/November. Delaying it for 9 months suggests there'll be extensive re-shoots and patching up. It's unprecedented to pull a finished film a month before release.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 25 May, 2012, 02:55:19 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 25 May, 2012, 01:57:17 PM
My hope is Dredd will do a Hellboy. If it can rake in ~$70m, it'll be laughing. My hope is it doesn't do a Serenity—or worse.

Didn't Serenity have massive DVD sales, enough to warrant a sequel, but it didn't happen anyway?

Reading that article was interesting.I thought the gap between 2D and 3D wasn't that big anymore in terms of raising interest in a particular film ,but apparently it is.Also 3D ticket prices make a big difference in terms of generating revenue -I thought that was marginal ,and cancelled out largely anyway by the fact that fewer cinemas could show a 3D film.This bodes well for the Dredd film then.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 25 May, 2012, 03:06:08 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 May, 2012, 02:42:47 PM
Quote from: radiator on 25 May, 2012, 01:53:10 PM
I think they saw how The Avengers completely destroyed Battleship at the US box office, and figured The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus were going to do the same for GIJ2.


From screenings the whole thing was reported, apparently,  to be a mess, if it'd been a solid film they would've just put it out or delayed it till September/October/November. Delaying it for 9 months suggests there'll be extensive re-shoots and patching up. It's unprecedented to pull a finished film a month before release.

Also, apparently the preview screenings had test cards asking all about Channing Tatum and his character so the rumors are they're going to reshoot and center the movie more around him. Seeing as he's the next big thing'n'all...

Well, Serenity's biggest problem was it was essentially an entire season of a show that, despite having a pretty rabid fanbase, wasn't very well known squished into a two hour movie. If you hadn't seen the show and watched the movie (as plenty of people I know have done) you're seriously at a disadvantage...

Just also like to point out I didn't say Dredd's trailer would be in front of Prometheus. Just that two forum jockeys did. And one of them turned out to be you-know-who. So it's probably not...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 May, 2012, 03:09:07 PM
The extra cost of shooting a film in 3D- rather than post conversion- which amounts to around 18% of budget is usually made back by higher ticket prices, so I wouldn't say it adds a huge amount of profit to most films but it would to something like Avengers.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 May, 2012, 03:13:13 PM
Serenity only got made cos they canceled Firefly and it didn't really have anywhere else to go after the story arc had concluded.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 25 May, 2012, 03:33:39 PM
I know plenty of people who watched Serenity and hadn't seen Firefly. They misread a couple of things, but it was far from impenetrable. My point, though, was purely about numbers. On box office, Serenity barely made back its budget, and thereby fell significantly short of breaking even. Reportedly, it broke even on shiny disc sales, but that's not enough to guarantee further films. By contrast, Hellboy, despite Sony's oddball release schedule, did well enough to justify the rather spiffy sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 25 May, 2012, 05:54:10 PM
From John Wagner on Facebook

QuoteI went up to London yesterday to see the completed Dredd film. I've had reservations about certain aspects of it, and made them plain to the team at DNA. All but one of them - a little quibble at the beginning - have been addressed. And what a lot they've added. Music is on the button. SFX are excellent. Filming is impressive. I've not seen a modern 3-D movie before but I like it. I found myself reaching out trying to touch things that were dancing before my eyes. Karl is a great Dredd and Olivia gets Anderson completely. This is Dredd as it should be done - true to character, visceral, unrelentingly violent (but not off-puttingly so). It will open, I believe, sometime in September. No doubt you'll let me know what you think when you've seen it, but this has my recommendation.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 25 May, 2012, 06:14:57 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 25 May, 2012, 05:54:10 PM
From John Wagner on Facebook

QuoteI went up to London yesterday to see the completed Dredd film. I've had reservations about certain aspects of it, and made them plain to the team at DNA. All but one of them - a little quibble at the beginning - have been addressed. And what a lot they've added. Music is on the button. SFX are excellent. Filming is impressive. I've not seen a modern 3-D movie before but I like it. I found myself reaching out trying to touch things that were dancing before my eyes. Karl is a great Dredd and Olivia gets Anderson completely. This is Dredd as it should be done - true to character, visceral, unrelentingly violent (but not off-puttingly so). It will open, I believe, sometime in September. No doubt you'll let me know what you think when you've seen it, but this has my recommendation.

The seal of approval on the finishes product

Arsom
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 25 May, 2012, 06:25:10 PM
Doesn't get much better than that....I'm now officially REALLY excited.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 25 May, 2012, 06:44:42 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 25 May, 2012, 06:25:10 PM
Doesn't get much better than that....I'm now officially REALLY excited.

Oh my GRUD, I'm going to EXpLoDE!!!  The Wagner seal of approval!  There's no words!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 25 May, 2012, 08:46:10 PM
At last the first bit of real DREDD PR next to the Empire  pics from way back. Mr. Wagner you are  the Law!  :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 26 May, 2012, 04:00:48 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 25 May, 2012, 01:57:17 PM
My hope is Dredd will do a Hellboy. If it can rake in ~$70m, it'll be laughing. My hope is it doesn't do a Serenity—or worse.

Do you mean $70m worldwide, Indigo dude, if so, I certainly hope it does a heckuva lot more than that, or we'll not get a sequel, personally if it's as good as John Wagner himself thinks it is, and the trailer/advertising/marketing attracts a good crowd out to see it, plus taking into account the likely restricted rating it will receive in most territories, I think it stands a good chance of doing Watchmen  numbers at the box-office worldwide, around $180m or thereabouts, if it becomes a sleeper hit, then $200m-plus is not unreasonable (like District 9  ended up doing), in either case, we'll definitely get a sequel two or three years later with a substantially increased budget... and a certain skeletal ghoul in it hopefully!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 May, 2012, 05:29:12 AM
Ok, I ran a judge dredd facebook page, and now it's stolen? I don' think that's fair!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 26 May, 2012, 11:44:57 AM
How do you mean "Stolen" ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 May, 2012, 12:41:55 PM
Not sure if deleted or not, but I no longer have access to it. What the hell!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 May, 2012, 12:45:18 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 May, 2012, 12:41:55 PM
Not sure if deleted or not, but I no longer have access to it. What the hell!

If you created it, they would email you if any changes to it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 26 May, 2012, 12:46:18 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 May, 2012, 12:41:55 PM
Not sure if deleted or not, but I no longer have access to it. What the hell!

Very strange. What's wrong with putting up a fan site? Which of their creepy wires could you have tripped?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 12:59:57 PM
A previous site run by a boarder got a cease & desist order from the makers/financiers a year or so ago.

I'd be surprised if it was done without any contact though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 May, 2012, 01:01:18 PM
It was 'claimed by someone who is authorised to represent it'



So does that mean that the dredd publicity is finally coming?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 01:02:39 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 May, 2012, 01:01:18 PM
It was 'claimed by someone who is authorised to represent it'



So does that mean that the dredd publicity is finally coming?


Itmeans you were infringing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 01:10:25 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 May, 2012, 01:01:18 PM
It was 'claimed by someone who is authorised to represent it'



So does that mean that the dredd publicity is finally coming?

What did you have on there?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 May, 2012, 01:11:43 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 May, 2012, 01:01:18 PM
It was 'claimed by someone who is authorised to represent it'



So does that mean that the dredd publicity is finally coming?

Your stuff got owned, bitch
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 May, 2012, 01:12:09 PM
Just stills of the film, same ones everyone has seen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 May, 2012, 01:14:24 PM
Just tried searching for other fan pages, I think they have all been taken down. What's the big deal?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 May, 2012, 01:16:28 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 May, 2012, 01:14:24 PM
Just tried searching for other fan pages, I think they have all been taken down. What's the big deal?

THEY ARE COME
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 01:16:34 PM
Your page was called Dredd 2012? That may have been the problem.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 May, 2012, 01:20:33 PM
My one was just called 'Judge Dredd' but I used pics from the film, dredd 2012 has been taken down, and judge dredd 2012.

I am pretty certain it is because they are making their own, why else would they delete all these fan pages?

At first I just thought they wanted the username.

I don't know why they had to delete everyone elses fan pages though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 01:23:39 PM
They've paid to use the IP - so it's a case of removing any sites that infringe on that. Just look at how strict the Olympics are regulated.

Shame they can't be a bit nicer about it though, but since it's a combination of marketing and legal, I'd not expect that any time soon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 26 May, 2012, 01:31:56 PM
I guess it's a case of 'All your page are belong to us' eh?  Shame, but not surprising really.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 May, 2012, 01:45:33 PM
Interesting, my daft theory is this;

Dredd fan pages pulled as there could be official Dredd film website on way?

Official film website could happens when the trailer appears?

You could get new people to the website by the trailer? It could happens if you attaching a trailer to one of biggest films this summer?

Wow, THEY ARE COME, again! Silly theory again...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 26 May, 2012, 02:22:13 PM
Good job the film doesn't mention a cellar at any point  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 02:23:12 PM
Does the Peach Trees Block have a cellar?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 26 May, 2012, 03:05:25 PM
Im just imagining the size of the "FUCK YOU!" subsequent military-carnage, were they to try to bring down the cellar... :o

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 03:06:54 PM
The Tea-Time of Chaos
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 03:28:18 PM
As part of the funding deal Pete Wells is also now property of IMGlobal after appearing as a block.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 03:30:40 PM
Pete Wells: corporate whore-bag.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 26 May, 2012, 03:59:53 PM
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dredd-2012-Movie-Fan-Page-for-Judge-Dredd/114524515346366 that one's still there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 26 May, 2012, 04:33:34 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 03:30:40 PM
Pete Wells: corporate whore-bag.

Just a whore-bag, to be honest!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 26 May, 2012, 05:30:33 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 May, 2012, 01:20:33 PM
My one was just called 'Judge Dredd' but I used pics from the film, dredd 2012 has been taken down, and judge dredd 2012.

I am pretty certain it is because they are making their own, why else would they delete all these fan pages?

At first I just thought they wanted the username.

I don't know why they had to delete everyone elses fan pages though.

Yeah, it's a strange thing to do. Many movie sites offer fan-site material since they want people to make them. Free marketing. I don't understand why the people making Dredd would have a problem with that. Especially since it's probably got a limited marketing budget.

What I find even stranger, is that there isn't even an official teaser site for Dredd. Not even a simple image of his badge with a "coming in september" caption. There was also rumours about the director being shut out of post-production, so I think it's fair to say there has been problems. Let's just hope they've managed to pull through. Wagner's post is most certainly a good sign.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 26 May, 2012, 05:50:13 PM
I think its a bit off they way they pull these sites. A simple email explaining why would go a long way to improving relations instead of just cutting the fan pages dead and redirecting to an official one.

Isnt this called "lucasartsism" ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 06:19:50 PM
Lucasfilm seem to have a fairly good relationship with the fan community, judging by the costuming groups, fan films etc.

Same with Paramount and Trek.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 26 May, 2012, 06:42:03 PM
Now yes but not so 15 years or so ago when anything fan based appeared on the net LA had a cease and decist on anything which looked like a Star Wars site which could be construde as either profiteering off the name or relaying information which wasnt to LA interests.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 06:42:28 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 26 May, 2012, 05:30:33 PMWhat I find even stranger, is that there isn't even an official teaser site for Dredd. Not even a simple image of his badge with a "coming in september" caption. There was also rumours about the director being shut out of post-production, so I think it's fair to say there has been problems. Let's just hope they've managed to pull through.


That's conflating two separate things and calling them both problems.

As to the first issue: has their plan to market the film been a problem?

Since the date of release moved from Spring to September I think that's a call that can't be made until the campaign starts -which looks to be soon- and how successful the film becomes when it gets released. I certainly don't think any campaign could've competed with any of the Summer films and would've been lost amid the more monied flicks. I don't think putting up a place-holding site would really do anything either since people would have to know what they're looking for to find it in the first place, unless you pay for other sites to host banners, which cost money that could be spent when the time comes to push the film closer to its release.

A more concentrated impact is better than a diluted one drip-fed throughout the year. If anything the secrecy and John Wagner's endorsement has made people a lot more curious than they otherwise have been.


The issue of the director being shut out we know nothing about and I'd say most punters don't even know that anything happened at all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 06:48:34 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 06:19:50 PM
Lucasfilm seem to have a fairly good relationship with the fan community, judging by the costuming groups, fan films etc.

Same with Paramount and Trek.


There's not enough of a relationship built up between Dredd the film and Dredd the film-fans yet. With Star Wars that relationship evolved over 3 decades. With Dredd, there's us and the yet to be seen film, and we don't even know what kind of film it really is in relation to the Dredd we know so it'd be hard to advertise one using the other, at the mo.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 26 May, 2012, 06:50:25 PM
As the marketing budget is evidently lower than most, I have to agree with Joe that a marketing blitz around late July / August would be more prudent and logical.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 07:10:50 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 06:48:34 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 06:19:50 PM
Lucasfilm seem to have a fairly good relationship with the fan community, judging by the costuming groups, fan films etc.

Same with Paramount and Trek.


There's not enough of a relationship built up between Dredd the film and Dredd the film-fans yet. With Star Wars that relationship evolved over 3 decades. With Dredd, there's us and the yet to be seen film, and we don't even know what kind of film it really is in relation to the Dredd we know so it'd be hard to advertise one using the other, at the mo.

Yes, it was more a comment that there can be a relationship between the two, rather than hamfistedly shutting things down.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 26 May, 2012, 07:30:14 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 06:42:28 PM
That's conflating two separate things and calling them both problems.

As to the first issue: has their plan to market the film been a problem?

Since the date of release moved from Spring to September I think that's a call that can't be made until the campaign starts -which looks to be soon- and how successful the film becomes when it gets released. I certainly don't think any campaign could've competed with any of the Summer films and would've been lost amid the more monied flicks. I don't think putting up a place-holding site would really do anything either since people would have to know what they're looking for to find it in the first place, unless you pay for other sites to host banners, which cost money that could be spent when the time comes to push the film closer to its release.

A more concentrated impact is better than a diluted one drip-fed throughout the year. If anything the secrecy and John Wagner's endorsement has made people a lot more curious than they otherwise have been.


The issue of the director being shut out we know nothing about and I'd say most punters don't even know that anything happened at all.

Are you seriously suggesting that an official site, no matter how sparse, wouldn't really accomplish anything since "people would have to know what they're looking for in the first place"? And what do banners have to do with it? All they needed to do was link from Lionsgate and post on a few of the biggest forums. I'm sorry, your arguments make no sense at all.

The problem with not advertising a movie, at all, in this day and age, can even make people think it isn't even for real. Hell, the very reason I joined this forum was to find out more about the movie in the first place since there's hardly any info available. Also, a site advertising the movie wouldn't cost much at all. Could even be Facebook for goodness sake.

And for the issue with the director, The Los Angeles Times seem to know something about it. (http://www.thedeadbolt.com/100302350-judge-dredd-director-shut-out-of-post-production.html)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 26 May, 2012, 07:59:45 PM
I'd guess they'd rather go for the 'short, sharp shock' type of marketing for this film and it makes more sense in my opinion.

The fact that so little info has been released and that led you to actually go in search of it means that, you know, not releasing loads of info is an effective means of sustaining some peoples interest.

You're also battling for media attention from current/soon-to-be-released juggernauts like Avengers, Batman, Prometheus and new trailers for franchises like Bond. Best to keep your head down and wait for those to die down a bit.

Maybe they'll try and parallel some of the forthcoming media storm from DKR. Another 'superhero'/comic book film that's real-world, dark and gritty and somewhat nihilistic. And the two characters have shared the page before (emphasised by the new Judge Dredd/Batman collection coming out soon).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 08:04:52 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 07:10:50 PM

Yes, it was more a comment that there can be a relationship between the two, rather than hamfistedly shutting things down.


It'd be nice if there was some hands across the water but it's probably the lawyers rather than the producers themselves handling the routing of the net. I'd say they're also a bit cautious in the lead up to the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 26 May, 2012, 08:14:07 PM
1. I wasn't expecting "loads of info", merely an official site or something at Lionsgate.

2. Only the most hardcore geeks (like me) spend time googling for it. An official site, no matter how sparse (badge and date) would have helped tremendously. Also quenching any bad rumours.

3. Dredd will have to battle with the big names no matter what. I agree that a short, focused campaign might be a good idea when funds are limited. But before entering into the advertising phase that costs money, you can create a lot of good promo on a shoestring budget. We got teh internet. ;)

I don't want this movie to do well, I want it to do great. I want it to be great. I'm just curious/surprised/worried about the non existant online presence.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 08:20:00 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 26 May, 2012, 07:30:14 PM

Are you seriously suggesting that an official site, no matter how sparse, wouldn't really accomplish anything since "people would have to know what they're looking for in the first place"? And what do banners have to do with it? All they needed to do was link from Lionsgate and post on a few of the biggest forums. I'm sorry, your arguments make no sense at all.


and neither do yours. In case you haven't noticed there is such a page with the kind of sparse info you refer to, it's been there since the start of this year:

http://www.imglobalfilm.com/opus/dredd



Quote from: HunterZolomon on 26 May, 2012, 07:30:14 PM
The problem with not advertising a movie, at all, in this day and age, can even make people think it isn't even for real. Hell, the very reason I joined this forum was to find out more about the movie in the first place since there's hardly any info available. Also, a site advertising the movie wouldn't cost much at all.

Would it make that much difference it it was done now or 6 months ago? I doubt it. Long-term campaigns involving web-sites etc. need to be sustained to have any real effect, that's why the large budget films do it and release something new every few weeks otherwise there's little point. The Dredd marketing budget doesn't stretch that far for it to be properly effective in -as you say- this day and age of constant content demand. A place-holder site means nothing unless you constantly fill it with something.





Quote from: HunterZolomon on 26 May, 2012, 07:30:14 PM
And for the issue with the director, The Los Angeles Times seem to know something about it. (http://www.thedeadbolt.com/100302350-judge-dredd-director-shut-out-of-post-production.html)


It's old news and it's the only news that was ever reported about it, half of it being hearsay and unsourced. I doubt The LA Times know much more. It was well raked over at the time and nothing more ever came of itother than a sparse retraction.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 08:27:42 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 26 May, 2012, 08:14:07 PM
1. I wasn't expecting "loads of info", merely an official site or something at Lionsgate.


Lionsgate are only concerned with distribution in the US, Entertainment FIlms handle Ireland & the UK. I doubt Lionsgate's campaign will be any more than they give for stuff they haven't produced themselves.

IM Global/DNA are really the ones responsible for the real content.


Quote from: HunterZolomon on 26 May, 2012, 08:14:07 PM
3. Dredd will have to battle with the big names no matter what.


Not of the same genre in September. Looper is about the only one.


Quote from: HunterZolomon on 26 May, 2012, 08:14:07 PMI agree that a short, focused campaign might be a good idea when funds are limited. But before entering into the advertising phase that costs money, you can create a lot of good promo on a shoestring budget. We got teh internet. ;)

It all comes form the same pot of money and a functional net presence needs to be sustained and changing for it to make any real effect.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 26 May, 2012, 08:36:00 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 08:20:00 PM
and neither do yours. In case you haven't noticed there is such a page with the kind of sparse info you refer to, it's been there since the start of this year:

http://www.imglobalfilm.com/opus/dredd

Would it make that much difference it it was done now or 6 months ago? I doubt it. Long-term campaigns involving web-sites etc. need to be sustained to have any real effect, that's why the large budget films do it and release something new every few weeks otherwise there's little point. The Dredd marketing budget doesn't stretch that far for it to be properly effective in -as you say- this day and age of constant content demand. A place-holder site means nothing unless you constantly fill it with something.

It's old news and it's the only news that was ever reported about it, half of it being hearsay and unsourced. I doubt The LA Times know much more. It was well raked over at the time and nothing more ever came of itother than a sparse retraction.

1. No, not the kind of site I meant. That's basically IMDB info, not marketing, not something for the fans. I'm talking about an official movie site, and I suspect you know what I mean.

2. Dredd probably doesn't have the budget to sustain an advanced site. But updating a simple one, with a few photos, interviews and whatnot is neither costly nor difficult. And yes, it does make a difference. They should have launched it as soon as they had a date set.

3. I did use the word "rumour" remember, since that's what it is. It's the combination of that rumour and next to no online presence and the deafening silence about Dredd that makes me suspect there were some issues.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 08:43:10 PM
I'd settle for anything which doesn't use that underexposed, blurry, shocker of a photo that was the first one to come out of the production.

I can't believe IMGlobal still have it on their site.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 26 May, 2012, 08:54:22 PM
Quick question - there are reports coming out of Cannes from movie folk and critics. Am I right in thinking that Dredd was only shown to industry insiders rather than those kind of 'public'?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 08:56:08 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 26 May, 2012, 08:36:00 PM

1. No, not the kind of site I meant. That's basically IMDB info, not marketing, not something for the fans. I'm talking about an official movie site, and I suspect you know what I mean.

It wouldn't be much more than that page so I don't see the effect of anything which was only a bit more than that. Plenty of films have those types of sites that are just one or two pages, I've never visited a single one or read them.

Quote from: HunterZolomon on 26 May, 2012, 08:36:00 PM
2. Dredd probably doesn't have the budget to sustain an advanced site. But updating a simple one, with a few photos, interviews and whatnot is neither costly nor difficult. And yes, it does make a difference. They should have launched it as soon as they had a date set.

That all depends on what is planned in the next few months. All the promotion in the world didn't help Ghost Rider 2, Battleship or John Carter, whatever way it was put together, and they had millions to spend. First of all promotion needs to be done well if done at all and secondly, it's down to luck.

Quote from: HunterZolomon on 26 May, 2012, 08:36:00 PM
3. I did use the word "rumour" remember, since that's what it is. It's the combination of that rumour and next to no online presence and the deafening silence about Dredd that makes me suspect there were some issues.



Nothing anyone could have said would've satisfied rumour mongering. Even the official statement that was released in response was met with suspicion so I don't see how anyone can really come back from that without spending money on trying to satiate people with content which wasn't ready. There were issues but none of us know what the source of the issue was and that, really, is it. It never raised its head again which suggests it wasn't anything that damaged the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 08:58:20 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 26 May, 2012, 08:54:22 PM
Quick question - there are reports coming out of Cannes from movie folk and critics. Am I right in thinking that Dredd was only shown to industry insiders rather than those kind of 'public'?


It wasn't a press screening, it would've mostly consisited of distributors.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 09:14:59 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 08:43:10 PM
I'd settle for anything which doesn't use that underexposed, blurry, shocker of a photo that was the first one to come out of the production.

I can't believe IMGlobal still have it on their site.

It's the 'grittiness' Steve, the grittiness. Wouldn't it be hilarious if it ended up being the poster.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 26 May, 2012, 09:15:46 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 08:56:08 PM
It wouldn't be much more than that page so I don't see the effect of anything which was only a bit more than that. Plenty of films have those types of sites that are just one or two pages, I've never visited a single one or read them.

That all depends on what is planned in the next few months. All the promotion in the world didn't help Ghost Rider 2, Battleship or John Carter, whatever way it was put together, and they had millions to spend. First of all promotion needs to be done well if done at all and secondly, it's down to luck.

Nothing anyone could have said would've satisfied rumour mongering. Even the official statement that was released in response was met with suspicion so I don't see how anyone can really come back from that without spending money on trying to satiate people with content which wasn't ready. There were issues but none of us know what the source of the issue was and that, really, is it. It never raised its head again which suggests it wasn't anything that damaged the film.

If you cannot see the difference between those types of sites I'm sorry, can't help you.

So, what exactly are you arguing? Marketing doesn't matter if the movie is shit? Or bad marketing and/or bad luck might ruin any attempt no matter what the budget? Are you suggesting those are good reasons not to promote Dredd?

Steve's comment about the image at IMGlobal and only showing the finished movie to distributors in Cannes is exactly what I'm talking about. No official interviews at all, nothing. If you look at forums outside of 2000AD discussing Dredd a lot of people are wondering the same.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 09:21:30 PM
I'm talking about timing. It won't make a huge difference if the marketing starts now or 6 months ago. The only difference is money and how thinly you spread it. Once a trailer arrives anything that went before won't matter a jot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 09:23:17 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 09:14:59 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 08:43:10 PM
I'd settle for anything which doesn't use that underexposed, blurry, shocker of a photo that was the first one to come out of the production.

I can't believe IMGlobal still have it on their site.

It's the 'grittiness' Steve, the grittiness. Wouldn't it be hilarious if it ended up being the poster.

I wouldn't go and see the fucking thing if they did that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 09:24:54 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 09:23:17 PM
I wouldn't go and see the fucking thing if they did that.


WHat if there was a little blue van on it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 09:28:06 PM
I'm not bothered about the van - As long as it was shot OK it could go on the poster.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 26 May, 2012, 10:20:51 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 09:21:30 PM
I'm talking about timing. It won't make a huge difference if the marketing starts now or 6 months ago. The only difference is money and how thinly you spread it. Once a trailer arrives anything that went before won't matter a jot.

That must be why Peter Jackson is taking the time and effort to create clips, buzz and promo material for his Hobbit blog more than a year before the premiere and long before any trailer. Because that won't matter a jot.  ;)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 10:26:47 PM
It's all relative to budget and if you're seriously comparing Dredd to the Hobbit your economies of scale (concerning time and content) are way out of whack.

All anyone on any of the discussion fora ask when it comes to Dredd is "where's the trailer" cos that's what most people make a decision on regardless of what other web-based pamphleteering that goes on. After that is whatever poster looks best in the lobby of the cinema.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 26 May, 2012, 10:30:45 PM
I don't think The Hobbit and Dredd are in the same ballpark in the hierarchy of upcoming movies.

They've released a couple of shots and info and it's all been reported on the net and in mainstream film magazines. There's still 3 1/2 months until the film's release. We're expecting a trailer any day now and from the sounds of it, we will be getting one pretty soon.

I'm not sure a film like Dredd even bothers with stuff like teasers. I think perhaps some fans (myself included) have a tendency to conflate Dredd as some massive film in the same league as Batman or Avengers and the fact of the matter is, it isn't (even though I'm sure it deserves to be!)

We're still a couple of months away. I would assume any big-time marketing they have planned will be for closer to the film's release date.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 26 May, 2012, 10:49:36 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 26 May, 2012, 10:30:45 PM
I don't think The Hobbit and Dredd are in the same ballpark in the hierarchy of upcoming movies.

They've released a couple of shots and info and it's all been reported on the net and in mainstream film magazines. There's still 3 1/2 months until the film's release. We're expecting a trailer any day now and from the sounds of it, we will be getting one pretty soon.

I'm not sure a film like Dredd even bothers with stuff like teasers. I think perhaps some fans (myself included) have a tendency to conflate Dredd as some massive film in the same league as Batman or Avengers and the fact of the matter is, it isn't (even though I'm sure it deserves to be!)

We're still a couple of months away. I would assume any big-time marketing they have planned will be for closer to the film's release date.

Of course it's not a reasonable comparison in that sense, hence the ;)

They could learn to do something at least. No promo/info at all is still unsettling. I do hope you're right that this is all part of a plan, even though it's quite unconventional.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 11:04:46 PM
I think we only see it as unconventional because we're use to seeing comic adaptations get big treatments when a lot of mid-budget films don't get that and that's what Dredd is.

I think things had actually started with last Spetember's Empire feature and marketing would've continued through to its release in the Spring -the release date as quoted in the article- but then the film was pushed back to the Autumn which meant any marketing would clash with the big Summer films and was too long to sustain, so they now wait til nearer the time of release.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 26 May, 2012, 11:23:04 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 26 May, 2012, 10:49:36 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 26 May, 2012, 10:30:45 PM


They could learn to do something at least. No promo/info at all is still unsettling. I do hope you're right that this is all part of a plan, even though it's quite unconventional.

There has been some promo/info though. Dredd was on the cover of Empire not too long ago, if memory serves. Even the R rating got coverage from a lot of places.

I wouldn't say it's unconvential. I'd place Dredd in a similar place to the likes of the recent Chronicle of even The Punisher films (crap as they were).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 27 May, 2012, 12:02:44 AM
I predict that,once this thread reaches 200 pages, news of a trailer will hit  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 27 May, 2012, 01:42:08 AM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 26 May, 2012, 03:59:53 PM
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dredd-2012-Movie-Fan-Page-for-Judge-Dredd/114524515346366 that one's still there.

I'm sure the title explains why. I saw one a week ago and couldn't tell wether it was supposed to be official or not. Even if they don't have their own page planned they may not want other people confusing matters, which is understandable. There may be a very thin line between marketing success and disaster for this one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 27 May, 2012, 04:18:18 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 06:19:50 PM
Lucasfilm seem to have a fairly good relationship with the fan community

The same Lucasfilm that ignored then treated with utter contempt the literally millions of Star Wars  fans, myself included, who went to see at the cinema then bought on VHS the 'special edition' versions of the Trilogy, but when we simply wanted the choice to also watch the (superior) theatrical versions of said Trilogy, were spun the outright lies that "they no longer exist" (the original separation masters, usable prints, the 1993 Laserdisc masters, the 1995 remastered versions?) and then proved they clearly did by releasing sub-standard presentations of them on DVD in 2006, completely unremastered and non-anamorphic in presentation... THAT Lucasfilm, you mean?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 08:46:52 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 11:04:46 PM
I think we only see it as unconventional because we're use to seeing comic adaptations get big treatments when a lot of mid-budget films don't get that and that's what Dredd is.

I think things had actually started with last Spetember's Empire feature and marketing would've continued through to its release in the Spring -the release date as quoted in the article- but then the film was pushed back to the Autumn which meant any marketing would clash with the big Summer films and was too long to sustain, so they now wait til nearer the time of release.

I don't compare it to any of the big ones at all. I compare it to movies like Priest for example, similar budget. Priest had a trailer up in Sept 2010, with release in May 2011. That is conventional. If Dredd was planned for spring, then the trailer should probably have coincided with the Empire feature. If they wanted to push it back, a trailer would conventionally hit in Feb/March at the latest.

It makes sense to push it back because of The Avengers etc. but not showing anything, not saying anything. I don't know about that...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 May, 2012, 11:28:39 AM
There are no should've in
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 08:46:52 AMI don't compare it to any of the big ones at all. I compare it to movies like Priest for example, similar budget. Priest had a trailer up in Sept 2010, with release in May 2011. That is conventional. If Dredd was planned for spring, then the trailer should probably have coincided with the Empire feature. If they wanted to push it back, a trailer would conventionally hit in Feb/March at the latest.

Hindsight is always easy but not the reality.

Their decision to hold the film back till September 2012 was announced in July 2011, the article in the 'September' issue of Empire was written months before when Spring was the release date and obviously Empire had printed up its September lot of mags so couldn't change what was all ready printed so those things did not coincide.


A trailer in March wouldn't be as strong as a trailer now after those other films. There's little point comparing films as to when they show trailers, Priest's marketing didn't work, it failed to even recoup its budget.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 27 May, 2012, 12:26:40 PM
Think of the DREDD film as a piece of art you have created.  Do you lock it up in a closet once completed for a long time so nobody can appreciate your efforts ... Or expose to the world in all its  glory be it good or bad!?  :-*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 May, 2012, 11:28:39 AM

Hindsight is always easy but not the reality.

Their decision to hold the film back till September 2012 was announced in July 2011, the article in the 'September' issue of Empire was written months before when Spring was the release date and obviously Empire had printed up its September lot of mags so couldn't change what was all ready printed so those things did not coincide.


A trailer in March wouldn't be as strong as a trailer now after those other films. There's little point comparing films as to when they show trailers, Priest's marketing didn't work, it failed to even recoup its budget.

It's not just about the trailer, even though a lot of people (myself included) find it strange it hasn't been released yet. The lack of an official site, teaser, trailer, interviews, no press screening in Cannes, all of that is what is strange.

You seem to go out of your way to defend the non-existant marketing of Dredd. Do you really think they are handling this in the best possible way? Where would the harm be in showing Dredd trailers during the summer blockbusters? Why not a site to confirm and promote the movie? It is after all the comic book audience they're aiming for. A very internet savvy group who go to see the comic book movie summer blockbusters.

By the way, concerning the LA Times article you said "It was well raked over at the time and nothing more ever came of itother than a sparse retraction." Do you have any links or references to that at all? The retraction?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 27 May, 2012, 12:51:05 PM
Reveal the creative process of the film it shows confidence in what you are creating ... Instead of secrecy which seems to be nurturing doubt about the final product. Minty is a good example of revealing with confidence your creative ability with good positive feedback as a result.  Take note Global for DREDD 2. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 27 May, 2012, 12:53:16 PM
Shit l hoping I would get the 200th post :( with that last one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 27 May, 2012, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 27 May, 2012, 12:51:05 PM
Reveal the creative process of the film it shows confidence in what you are creating ... Instead of secrecy which seems to be nurturing doubt about the final product. Minty is a good example of revealing with confidence your creative ability with good positive feedback as a result.  Take note Global for DREDD 2.

From what ive seen of Minty so far I would happily buy that on DVD, fantastic effort put into that and best off all its a fanpic. Dredd could and should take note Dracula1 your right.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 27 May, 2012, 01:05:44 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
It's not just about the trailer, even though a lot of people (myself included) find it strange it hasn't been released yet. [...] Where would the harm be in showing Dredd trailers during the summer blockbusters?

Er .... 'cos it costs MONEY.

Advertising is wasted if people will have forgotten it by the time the film comes out.  That's money pissed down the drain.

Other films' big advertising bucks can create a prologed, sustained run of multiple trailers and stepped promotion but it all costs $$$.  My (very quick) research suggests that on average a Hollywood movie costing $30m will typically spend a further $15m on advertising.  (And that's an average.  A lot of the $100m+ movies exceed the cost of the movie in advertising alone.)

Additionally, I'd presume there's a higher premium incurred attaching a trailer to a big movie ('cos movie distribution is a business, after all).

Quote from: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
The lack of an official site, teaser, trailer, interviews, no press screening in Cannes, all of that is what is strange.

And who is going to pay for all that?  You think flying actors to Cannes is free?

Also, do you think that the average punter is going to notice?  Walk down the street, stop somebody and ask them to name three movies shown at Cannes that they've heard about in the press.  (Certainly in the UK, a handful would say the Kylie Minogue thing and that's about it.)  Press screenings only generate buzz for blockbusters or films that would otherwise be ignored.

Quote from: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
It is after all the comic book audience they're aiming for. A very internet savvy group who go to see the comic book movie summer blockbusters.

Why waste money targetting a very small demographic group of comic book fans?  You're talking around 0.05% of the population.  (UK comics sales max 20k of 60m population; US comics sales max 150k of 370m population).  Especially a group that fails to evangelise your product, preferring instead to gripe about continuity errors.

Quote from: dracula1 on 27 May, 2012, 12:51:05 PM
Minty is a good example of revealing with confidence your creative ability with good positive feedback as a result.

And it's left this punter pissed-off with having to wait for the final product to appear.  That's negative publicity in the long run.


I'm guessing that the DR3DDTM promotion will come in a short, sharp shock when the time is right for maximum efficiency with a small budget, which is probably around 2-3 weeks before release.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 27 May, 2012, 01:06:48 PM
I think with mega budget films like DKR coming to a Emporium soon it's surely best to wait till their mighty wake has faded from the Cinema?

Be good if they got the Trailer to go with DKR but let's be realistic. A mid budget flick is not able to muster the same amount of Ad campaign a Major Movie release can.

Keep your powder dry and fire when necessary will be DNA's/ IM Globals motto.

It will turn up when they believe the time is right and not before.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 27 May, 2012, 01:09:21 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 27 May, 2012, 12:53:16 PM
Shit l hoping I would get the 200th post :( with that last one.

You won the runners up prize of having 666 posts to your name instead.

Yes, some kind o' trailer would be nice, though im not expecting one soon. September still seems like a long way off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 27 May, 2012, 01:15:26 PM
It strikes me that if it costs 100m to make a movie, and then another 100m to entice people in to see it, you'd probably be better off not bothering to make it in the first place and instead making something that people actually want to see.

Dredd's budget seems about right- perhaps a bit high (ah, who am i kidding? I'd cap all movie budgets at 2m and legally oblige any film that overspends to double the total cost of production in charitable donations), and the 'slow' advertising completely understandable. Id expect some low-level advertising in the next month, a few posters, a trailer, then the movie in cinemas for a couple of weeks before it all repeats for dvd release after xmas.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 May, 2012, 01:17:03 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 12:35:04 PMYou seem to go out of your way to defend the non-existant marketing of Dredd. Do you really think they are handling this in the best possible way? Where would the harm be in showing Dredd trailers during the summer blockbusters? Why not a site to confirm and promote the movie? It is after all the comic book audience they're aiming for. A very internet savvy group who go to see the comic book movie summer blockbusters.


I could ask why you're going out of your way to criticise it but that's an equally trivial and unimportant question, it's just an opinion and nothing more, who cares what I think. I also work within  productions for TV so I do have an interest in how these things get made and sold.


If you haven't gotten my point of view by now, I can't really tell you anymore than when the marketing starts, it'll be according to whatever plan they've had and have waited to implement after the Summer juggernauts. I don't believe anything they could've done would have been particularly effective in the wake of big studio comic-book fare and would make it seem Dredd was in competition with them, which it clearly isn't, as it's not entirely that particular audience. Dredd will be aiming for a broader, mostly older male, crossover audience than simply the comic-book crowd.







Quote from: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
By the way, concerning the LA Times article you said "It was well raked over at the time and nothing more ever came of itother than a sparse retraction." Do you have any links or references to that at all? The retraction?


The response was updated to the original latimesblog article:

[Update, 12:23 pm. Monday: Travis and Garland released a joint statement that read, "During all stages of the filmmaking, 'Dredd' has been a collaboration between a number of dedicated creative parties.  From the outset we decided on an unorthodox collaboration to make the film.  This situation has been misinterpreted.  To set the record straight, Pete was not fired and remains a central part of the collaboration, and Alex is not seeking a co-director credit.  We are all extremely proud of the film we have made, and respectfully suggest that it is judged on viewing when its released next year."]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 27 May, 2012, 01:05:44 PM

Er .... 'cos it costs MONEY.

And who is going to pay for all that?  You think flying actors to Cannes is free?


Well, there are plenty of ways to promote a movie like Dredd on a shoe-string budget. A medium budget movie would do well to use the internet to promote it. A directors blog for example would have been awesome. An official site with badge and date. I'm not asking for Avengers level promotion, just something that shows a bit of confidence and starts a good buzz.


Quote from: A.Cow on 27 May, 2012, 01:05:44 PM

Why waste money targetting a very small demographic group of comic book fans?


That "very small" group (not so small anymore I might add) will be the group that creates the buzz about the movie. Why do you think a lot of movies, big and small, show up at ComicCon nowadays?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 27 May, 2012, 01:21:14 PM
Yes! 200 pages!  I WIN at posting!

... BUGGER.  Wrong post.



Quote from: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 27 May, 2012, 01:05:44 PM
Er .... 'cos it costs MONEY.
Well, there are plenty of ways to promote a movie like Dredd on a shoe-string budget. A medium budget movie would do well to use the internet to promote it. A directors blog for example would have been awesome. An official site with badge and date. I'm not asking for Avengers level promotion, just something that shows a bit of confidence and starts a good buzz.

Fair point, well made.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 01:22:24 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 May, 2012, 01:17:03 PM
I could ask why you're going out of your way to criticise it but that's an equally trivial and unimportant question, it's just an opinion and nothing more, who cares what I think. I also work within  productions for TV so I do have an interest in how these things get made and sold.

If you haven't gotten my point of view by now, I can't really tell you anymore than when the marketing starts, it'll be according to whatever plan they've had and have waited to implement after the Summer juggernauts. I don't believe anything they could've done would have been particularly effective in the wake of big studio comic-book fare and would make it seem Dredd was in competition with them, which it clearly isn't, as it's not entirely that particular audience. Dredd will be aiming for a broader, mostly older male, crossover audience than simply the comic-book crowd.

Quote from: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
By the way, concerning the LA Times article you said "It was well raked over at the time and nothing more ever came of itother than a sparse retraction." Do you have any links or references to that at all? The retraction?


The response was updated to the original latimesblog article:

[Update, 12:23 pm. Monday: Travis and Garland released a joint statement that read, "During all stages of the filmmaking, 'Dredd' has been a collaboration between a number of dedicated creative parties.  From the outset we decided on an unorthodox collaboration to make the film.  This situation has been misinterpreted.  To set the record straight, Pete was not fired and remains a central part of the collaboration, and Alex is not seeking a co-director credit.  We are all extremely proud of the film we have made, and respectfully suggest that it is judged on viewing when its released next year."]

Excellent, thanks for the quote.

Also, I have VERY high hopes for Dredd. Consider my posts a fanboy's concern. Good buzz among the geek community is worth quite a lot, and I think Dredd could do much better in that department.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 May, 2012, 01:26:09 PM


Well, it only few months till Dredd film! I am happy with what they doing it well.




Hope I get to 200 pages?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 May, 2012, 01:26:27 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 27 May, 2012, 01:05:44 PM


Well, there are plenty of ways to promote a movie like Dredd on a shoe-string budget. A medium budget movie would do well to use the internet to promote it. A directors blog for example would have been awesome. An official site with badge and date. I'm not asking for Avengers level promotion, just something that shows a bit of confidence and starts a good buzz.






Y'know I've just discovered there's a director's blog for the Raid. The film was released 2 weeks ago. You need to promote these things to have any real effectiveness outside the very curious on the web-o-tron.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 27 May, 2012, 01:29:57 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 27 May, 2012, 01:26:09 PM
Well, it only few months till Dredd film! I am happy with what they doing it well.
Hope I get to 200 pages?

Happy 200th Goaty!

I know it's a struggle folks but there's unlikely to be any Trailer or Poster till after the third Batman film is launched.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 May, 2012, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 01:22:24 PM

Also, I have VERY high hopes for Dredd. Consider my posts a fanboy's concern. Good buzz among the geek community is worth quite a lot, and I think Dredd could do much better in that department.


In my experience the geek community's a double edged sword that is too quick to condemn without something substantial like a very convincing trailer. Giving them that 6 months ago would've been a little pointless, timing-wise.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 01:36:46 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 May, 2012, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 01:22:24 PM

Also, I have VERY high hopes for Dredd. Consider my posts a fanboy's concern. Good buzz among the geek community is worth quite a lot, and I think Dredd could do much better in that department.


In my experience the geek community's a double edged sword that is too quick to condemn without something substantial like a very convincing trailer. Giving them that 6 months ago would've been a little pointless, timing-wise.

Indeed it is. But not doing or showing anything tends to invite condemnation with more certainty. In my experience, movies with problems tend to be the ones that keep things quiet. I dearly hope I'm wrong about this one...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 May, 2012, 01:39:24 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 01:36:46 PM
Indeed it is. But not doing or showing anything tends to invite condemnation with more certainty.


Of the things that were revealed the knives came out anyway, you can't win.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 01:49:25 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 May, 2012, 01:39:24 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 01:36:46 PM
Indeed it is. But not doing or showing anything tends to invite condemnation with more certainty.


Of the things that were revealed the knives came out anyway, you can't win.

But it was hardly condemnation was it. You will always get the "helmet-too-big" crowd, but I saw quite a bit of praise as well. From what I've seen it is the lack of info people are mostly concerned with.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 May, 2012, 01:52:29 PM
...and then they got distracted by the Avengers, Spider-Man, TDKR, Prometheus...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 27 May, 2012, 03:03:20 PM
Well the proof will ,in the end ,be in the pudding.If the film is great and does poorly at the box office, then blame can rightly be placed at those marketing it.I disagree with what they have done so far, which is almost zero, but if they come up with a great late campaign that pulls it up ,creating lots of media interest and generates good box office, then fair play to them.

I'll see it numerous times ,good or bad, just to support it and hope it gets a sequel.John Wagner's recommendation is mustard and the best PR to date.It is a pity about the vehicles, which do look terrible, lets make no bones about it -great vehicles have been the a big part of too many films to mention so would have been a big help.As they are a small part of the movie, hopefully it won't mar the film -if we see a Lawmaster 'chasing' a beaten up old van though that will really jar for me.We'll see.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 27 May, 2012, 03:32:21 PM

[/quote]

And it's left this punter pissed-off with having to wait for the final product to appear.  That's negative publicity in the long run.

[/quote]

You're pissed off that something you're getting for free is taking too long? And you would have done it differently how? Not said a peep? Not shown anything?

The only reason the teaser trailer appeared when it did was because Scojo took it on himself to rob a couple of shots from my reel that I updated after I got made redundant. It forced our hand to put something official out there.

When you're doing something for free, there's obviously a limit on what you can achieve and how long it takes - People have jobs, families etc.

I'm currently at work in the office on a Sunday afternoon waiting for renders, and before that this morning I was working on tracking effects into Minty.

All in all I'd much rather be enjoying the sunshine.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 27 May, 2012, 03:44:12 PM
Its out in just over 3 months and none of us have been spoiled bar a few photos.
For all my whingeing I'm glad I've not seen a bean,It's that close I now want to go in cold,sure I want to see the trailer but I'm going to try and hold off.


Try,I'm not bloody Yoda.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 27 May, 2012, 04:17:53 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see both trailer and poster in the next couple of weeks.

Paul Hampshire was Karl Urban's stunt double during filming. The photos here are new to most people as the high res versions have been inaccessible until a few days ago... as was most of the site!

http://www.paulhampshire.com/2011/06/09/judge-dredd-2011/

The photos are of the weapons training (run by Dan Hirst I think), and there's a location photo taken beneath the Civic Centre which rewards careful study.
The woman is Olivia Thirlby's stunt double, Fleur van Eeden, and the man holding the sandbag is Adam Horton of Hooligan Stunts.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 27 May, 2012, 04:19:09 PM
All that can be said is the wait has been long more so than other comparable movies. It better be good or Global will get a public roasting unfortunately and there goes the franchise!   :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 27 May, 2012, 05:16:29 PM
Seems unlikely that a 'non-good' film would start a franchise: no matter what folk of Global.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 27 May, 2012, 05:17:46 PM
OOps!-please insert the word 'think' into the above sentence somewhere...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 27 May, 2012, 05:26:44 PM
*flails* Karl and big guns!!! Yes!!! Thank you for the photos.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 May, 2012, 05:27:50 PM
To those moaners about lack of film info or trailer, please read this A.Cow post, it is perfect, and with his last comment, it very worth right!

Quote from: A.Cow on 27 May, 2012, 01:05:44 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
It's not just about the trailer, even though a lot of people (myself included) find it strange it hasn't been released yet. [...] Where would the harm be in showing Dredd trailers during the summer blockbusters?

Er .... 'cos it costs MONEY.

Advertising is wasted if people will have forgotten it by the time the film comes out.  That's money pissed down the drain.

Other films' big advertising bucks can create a prologed, sustained run of multiple trailers and stepped promotion but it all costs $$$.  My (very quick) research suggests that on average a Hollywood movie costing $30m will typically spend a further $15m on advertising.  (And that's an average.  A lot of the $100m+ movies exceed the cost of the movie in advertising alone.)

Additionally, I'd presume there's a higher premium incurred attaching a trailer to a big movie ('cos movie distribution is a business, after all).

Quote from: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
The lack of an official site, teaser, trailer, interviews, no press screening in Cannes, all of that is what is strange.

And who is going to pay for all that?  You think flying actors to Cannes is free?

Also, do you think that the average punter is going to notice?  Walk down the street, stop somebody and ask them to name three movies shown at Cannes that they've heard about in the press.  (Certainly in the UK, a handful would say the Kylie Minogue thing and that's about it.)  Press screenings only generate buzz for blockbusters or films that would otherwise be ignored.

Quote from: HunterZolomon on 27 May, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
It is after all the comic book audience they're aiming for. A very internet savvy group who go to see the comic book movie summer blockbusters.

Why waste money targetting a very small demographic group of comic book fans?  You're talking around 0.05% of the population.  (UK comics sales max 20k of 60m population; US comics sales max 150k of 370m population).  Especially a group that fails to evangelise your product, preferring instead to gripe about continuity errors.

Quote from: dracula1 on 27 May, 2012, 12:51:05 PM
Minty is a good example of revealing with confidence your creative ability with good positive feedback as a result.

And it's left this punter pissed-off with having to wait for the final product to appear.  That's negative publicity in the long run.


I'm guessing that the DR3DDTM promotion will come in a short, sharp shock when the time is right for maximum efficiency with a small budget, which is probably around 2-3 weeks before release.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 27 May, 2012, 06:27:02 PM
Well the short Sharpe shock tactic of promoting the movie better capture the attention of the big buck cinema goers in the US otherwise this  will bomb badly.  Two to three weeks is laughable.  Cinema goers will still be discussing the big events of the summer block busters to notice this short Sharpe promo campaign.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 27 May, 2012, 06:33:08 PM
It's still 3 1/2 months away. Calm down, people.

They're not actually sticking to calling it DR3DD are they?! Awful idea if so. Dredd is Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 27 May, 2012, 06:50:36 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 27 May, 2012, 06:27:02 PM
Well the short Sharpe shock tactic of promoting the movie better capture the attention of the big buck cinema goers in the US otherwise this  will bomb badly.  Two to three weeks is laughable.  Cinema goers will still be discussing the big events of the summer block busters to notice this short Sharpe promo campaign.

What he says -but without the spelling mistakes  :) ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 27 May, 2012, 06:55:12 PM
I'll wager they're going to really kick things off around the time of the next Batman film's release. My wagering has gone really well so far.

It's great that they actually addressed most of Wagner's concerns too. I wonder if Ezquerra has seen it? :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 27 May, 2012, 08:08:09 PM
While, yes, a theatre trailer and poster campaign costs bucketloads of money, a teaser on youtube costs nowt..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 27 May, 2012, 08:28:00 PM
Michael you are once again the voice of reason on the forum and one of the big two people really in the know.


P. S.  Can l have yours and Jocks autographs. ;-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 27 May, 2012, 08:31:54 PM
Why? The check is almost positively going to bounce..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 28 May, 2012, 12:06:00 AM
All I can say is that DREDD and KILLING ME SOFTLY are the only September releases that haven't released a trailer or a teaser. And no, September isn't filled with MEGABUDGET movies. I'd also say if it's less than two months before September 21st and there isn't a trailer, be worried because the movie will probably be pushed back. Releasing your first trailer and starting your advertising with less than two months to go rarely ever happens.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 28 May, 2012, 12:25:47 AM
Movie's done.. Finished.. It's a question of duplication for distribution and marketing now. If anything the release date is the most accurate thing Wu know about it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 28 May, 2012, 12:27:08 AM
Wu? Stoopid phone.. WE..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 28 May, 2012, 12:43:45 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 27 May, 2012, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 27 May, 2012, 01:05:44 PM
And it's left this punter pissed-off with having to wait for the final product to appear.
You're pissed off that something you're getting for free is taking too long? And you would have done it differently how? Not said a peep? Not shown anything?

Please accept my sincere apology -- I appreciate that you've put a heck of a lot of work into the project in your own time, and that we're all benefitting from it.  I wouldn't dare suggest I could do any better.

"Pissed-off" was a stupid thing to say.  "Frustrated" is more accurate, and it's a frustration borne of how-things-have-to-be, rather than anything aimed at the Minty crew personally.

Quote from: Steve Green on 27 May, 2012, 03:32:21 PM
The only reason the teaser trailer appeared when it did was because Scojo took it on himself to rob a couple of shots from my reel that I updated after I got made redundant. It forced our hand to put something official out there.

My suggestion was that a long empty gap between teaser and final product can have negative effects, which seems to be re-enforced by the fact that you didn't want to release one so early, and would have left it to a later stage if Twatjo had stayed out of things.


Anyway, sorry for sounding like a twonk.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 May, 2012, 03:46:21 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 27 May, 2012, 04:17:53 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see both trailer and poster in the next couple of weeks.

Paul Hampshire was Karl Urban's stunt double during filming. The photos here are new to most people as the high res versions have been inaccessible until a few days ago... as was most of the site!

http://www.paulhampshire.com/2011/06/09/judge-dredd-2011/

The photos are of the weapons training (run by Dan Hirst I think), and there's a location photo taken beneath the Civic Centre which rewards careful study.
The woman is Olivia Thirlby's stunt double, Fleur van Eeden, and the man holding the sandbag is Adam Horton of Hooligan Stunts.

Thanks. I hadn't even seen the originals.

The skedway thing makes me wonder if, due to budget constraints, certain elements of the Dreddverse will be established as inexpensive nods which will then be expanded on later (or at least hoped to).

Or maybe I'm reading too much into it. For all I know someone put it up there for a laugh.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 May, 2012, 03:59:18 AM
Though I suppose it would look a bit bare if it's under construction.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 28 May, 2012, 07:46:57 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 28 May, 2012, 12:43:45 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 27 May, 2012, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 27 May, 2012, 01:05:44 PM
And it's left this punter pissed-off with having to wait for the final product to appear.
You're pissed off that something you're getting for free is taking too long? And you would have done it differently how? Not said a peep? Not shown anything?

Please accept my sincere apology -- I appreciate that you've put a heck of a lot of work into the project in your own time, and that we're all benefitting from it.  I wouldn't dare suggest I could do any better.

"Pissed-off" was a stupid thing to say.  "Frustrated" is more accurate, and it's a frustration borne of how-things-have-to-be, rather than anything aimed at the Minty crew personally.

Quote from: Steve Green on 27 May, 2012, 03:32:21 PM
The only reason the teaser trailer appeared when it did was because Scojo took it on himself to rob a couple of shots from my reel that I updated after I got made redundant. It forced our hand to put something official out there.

My suggestion was that a long empty gap between teaser and final product can have negative effects, which seems to be re-enforced by the fact that you didn't want to release one so early, and would have left it to a later stage if Twatjo had stayed out of things.


Anyway, sorry for sounding like a twonk.

No worries, cheers - believe me I share your frustration.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 28 May, 2012, 09:44:10 AM

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Quote from: wadew1 on 28 May, 2012, 12:06:00 AM
All I can say is that DREDD and KILLING ME SOFTLY are the only September releases that haven't released a trailer or a teaser. And no, September isn't filled with MEGABUDGET movies. I'd also say if it's less than two months before September 21st and there isn't a trailer, be worried because the movie will probably be pushed back. Releasing your first trailer and starting your advertising with less than two months to go rarely ever happens.
Quote from: Michaelvk on 28 May, 2012, 12:25:47 AM
Movie's done.. Finished.. It's a question of duplication for distribution and marketing now. If anything the release date is the most accurate thing Wu know about it.

Release date is Sept 7th  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 28 May, 2012, 09:55:05 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 27 May, 2012, 08:08:09 PM
While, yes, a theatre trailer and poster campaign costs bucketloads of money, a teaser on youtube costs nowt..

Well, that's not true, they've got to pay a licence fee for any music they use in the trailer (or pay the costs for the music if they're using original score to duck paying a licensing fee).  And unless the internet teaser is identical to the theatre trailer - which, as A. Cow says, can actually have a negative effect if it's released too early and then no new material comes out for months and months - there are going to be additional production costs of paying someone to edit it, produce the ad copy, and the fee for the voiceover.

Just because sites like Youtube and Facebook are free to upload to does not mean a professional for-profit company can put material up on them without having to pay everybody involved for their time and the rights to use their work.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 28 May, 2012, 10:13:59 AM
...And I belatedly realise I'm talking to somebody who was involved in the production and probably knows more than me, so perhaps I am completely misinformed about how these things are handled. :lol:  I guess as a freelancer I am just automatically deeply suspicious of the idea that any sort of marketing work 'costs nothing'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 28 May, 2012, 12:08:40 PM

photo taken beneath the Civic Centre which rewards careful study.
[/quote]

'Sked Way Construction'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 28 May, 2012, 12:31:47 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 28 May, 2012, 09:44:10 AM

Quote from: wadew1 on 28 May, 2012, 12:06:00 AM
All I can say is that DREDD and KILLING ME SOFTLY are the only September releases that haven't released a trailer or a teaser. And no, September isn't filled with MEGABUDGET movies. I'd also say if it's less than two months before September 21st and there isn't a trailer, be worried because the movie will probably be pushed back. Releasing your first trailer and starting your advertising with less than two months to go rarely ever happens.
Quote from: Michaelvk on 28 May, 2012, 12:25:47 AM
Movie's done.. Finished.. It's a question of duplication for distribution and marketing now. If anything the release date is the most accurate thing Wu know about it.

Release date is Sept 7th  :P
[/quote]

I forgot that it's being released in the UK a couple of weeks before everyone else.
The 21st is the release date in the US.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: opaque on 28 May, 2012, 01:19:35 PM
Spending money on trailers/publicity etc costs money but how much would it cost to give 2000ad (online and print) a few photos or an interview? Look at how some of us felt when the Dark Judges pictures were slowly released, I'm thinking along those lines really. If you had a bit of publicity to those who are ALREADY interested it would surely have little or no cost and would keep it bubbling along nicely until the end of August when they release more general publicity for the uninformed public.

I'm looking fowards to it, just hope it gets a decent amount of time in the cinema as well, so many films seem to come and then go in just a couple of days. Mind you if it is good I have my Cineworld Unlimited card and intent to make the most of it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 28 May, 2012, 01:55:48 PM
I'm really looking forward to Judge Minty by the way...  everything I've seen so far is excellent, wish I'd known about the call for volunteer extras at the time...  I'd not need much make-up to be a mutie!!!

I've stopped looking at Minty a bit ago to avoid spoilers.

I am starting to think I'm in a minority in just how much I like not knowing what will happen in films (books, comics, etc).  Clearly the average TV viewer wants to know everything in advance, or there wouldn't be a gazillion TV mags that do just that 'A murdered next week!!!' but if I cared about A I'd prefer being shocked that A was murdered, not look forward to it for a week...

I also see Planet Replicas as a sort of traler for Minty even though they are a by-product post Minty... So each time I see a pic of Lauren in her uniform I think of Minty... yeah, who am I kidding with that one? But you get my meaning, the one I meant as in I look forward to seeing Minty due to how great the Planet Replica stuff looks - even Judge Burdis gives me tingles of anticipation.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 28 May, 2012, 02:11:00 PM
Quote from: Dark Bat King on 28 May, 2012, 01:55:48 PM
Judge Burdis gives me tingles

If he starts to give you tingles while he's in his red Zardoz pants, start to worry...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 28 May, 2012, 02:45:19 PM
He has Zardoz pants?!?  Legend!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 28 May, 2012, 02:46:19 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 28 May, 2012, 02:45:19 PM
He has Zardoz pants?!?  Legend!
really, no!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 28 May, 2012, 02:46:36 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 28 May, 2012, 02:45:19 PM
He has Zardoz pants?!?  Legend!

Nightmare, more like.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 28 May, 2012, 03:14:15 PM
From JDMN:
One (2nd-hand) tweet, post-Cannes, probably referring to The Wagner Quibble;

Robbie Collin ‏@robbiereviews

Heard some early word on the new JUDGE DREDD film from a secret Cannes market screening. Apparently it "doesn't look very expensive".

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Well that screening was for investors, so maybe they have a vested interest in whether they can see their money, rather than if the film an engaging story told well...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 28 May, 2012, 03:17:56 PM
is an engaging story told well!

Editfunctionmuttergrumble
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 28 May, 2012, 03:35:54 PM
Well, it isn't that expensive in the scheme of things.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 28 May, 2012, 03:39:03 PM
Quite. As Joe pointed out: practically indie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 28 May, 2012, 03:45:04 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 28 May, 2012, 03:14:15 PM
From JDMN:
One (2nd-hand) tweet, post-Cannes, probably referring to The Wagner Quibble;

Robbie Collin ‏@robbiereviews

Heard some early word on the new JUDGE DREDD film from a secret Cannes market screening. Apparently it "doesn't look very expensive".

[/size]

DR & Quinch 'Mind the Oranges Marlon'  :D

Well that screening was for investors, so maybe they have a vested interest in whether they can see their money, rather than if the film an engaging story told well...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 28 May, 2012, 03:49:07 PM
Pesky missing edit function -I was refering to the rumour mill in that story.

District 9 looked cheap but was still a great film.I'll trust John Wagner's recommendation.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 May, 2012, 03:52:38 PM
Yes District 9 was perfectly example, as even with budget of only $30 million!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 28 May, 2012, 03:57:22 PM
It baffles me that you think District 9 "looked cheap"! I saw it, and at no point did i think 'this needed more money spent on it'.

I also saw Avatar, one of the 'most expensive films ever made' and thought, "this looks no different than one of those cheap playstation games that kids play", so i guess it's horses for courses.
Isnt this just the 'science fiction must have shitloads of cash flung at it for it to work' mindset that saw dr who mired in bbc purgatory until rtd came along and made us wish it had never come back at all?

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 May, 2012, 04:03:59 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 28 May, 2012, 03:49:07 PM

District 9 looked cheap but was still a great film.I'll trust John Wagner's recommendation.


Can't say I thought District 9 looked cheap, 'docu-drama' style all right but not cheap. It certainly looked better than something like Green Lantern which didn't know what to do with its massive budget.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 28 May, 2012, 04:07:12 PM
You cant really judge a film by a price. A film like Daddy Day Care cost $60 mil. I gather alot of that went on wages and it was still shit.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 28 May, 2012, 04:09:36 PM
There is a difference between "not looking expensive" and "looking cheap". It is obvious District 9 didn't have a big budget, but it didn't matter since the story they wanted to tell didn't need one. It looked great!

If Dredd "doesn't look expensive" doesn't mean it will look cheap, or bad.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 28 May, 2012, 04:22:20 PM
You're right 'cheap' was the wrong word to use, 'not too expensive' is closer to what I meant.District 9 is an excellent film, whilst Avatar, as SBT says, just looked like a video game or disney pic and I'd never want to see again let alone watch a sequel.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 28 May, 2012, 04:28:19 PM
It didn't look expensive as in glitz and high tech like I, Robot and with its shiny? Then thank god it doesn't look expensive. Dredd is dirty, set in a dirty, lawless time - expensive shit ain't gonna last long in that kinda world, not with the crims around and the grime in the air of that - bears repeating - DIRTY, post-apocalyptic world.

Couldn't care less. *sticks out tongue*

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 28 May, 2012, 04:31:01 PM
Dredd '95 looked expensive.

Nuff said.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 28 May, 2012, 04:39:58 PM


A good Dredd story, well-realised, is what we want, and Mr Wagner's given us every indication that that's what we'll get, - but if we do recall those vehicles from the early photos, and we then the remember the van, and in that light consider both this tweeted comment and Mr Wagner's own stated reservations, then I think it's not improbable that 'cheap-looking' might have some justification as an appellation, and 'chap-looking' is therefore probably going to be a rallying flag for those determined to hate it.

That, and possibly 'The Raid' comparisons, unfortunately.

These criticisms will melt to the unimportant nitpicks they are if the film is good: and it sounds good.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 28 May, 2012, 04:41:57 PM
chap.' cheap'.

Godammit
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 28 May, 2012, 05:59:31 PM
Wagner said its good,low budget I can take,its the fear that it will just be crap and make me feel like a complete twat for ever liking Dredd like the Stallone version did....dark days,took me ages to get out of that slump.
I'm still more excited for this than any other film this year though,Dark Knight and Hobbit included.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 28 May, 2012, 06:05:14 PM
Well fifty crap Stallone versions would still not make you a twat for appreciating Dredd. And I cant see Wagner recommending another shite-storm, so I think you can relax a bit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Third Estate Ned on 28 May, 2012, 09:08:32 PM
Is there any kind of definitive list saying which non-UK territories the film will be distributed to, specifically countries that tend to dub imported movies? I know you can find this stuff on IMDB but as the rumour goes it's edited by 14-year-olds.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 29 May, 2012, 11:36:17 AM
As I said elsewhere...here's a classic image of Dredd and a white van (below). The white van, the cheapness....It's nothing to worry about, as long as the essence of the thing is respected. It's when they shit all over it, that's when it stinks. Somebody believed in it in '95...but somewhere on the way to market they destroyed any point in making a film. Bad or good, nothing can undermine or change the best of these pages. There is a default idea that all media moves toward film, it's rubbish. Film is not on a higher plateau. I'm content knowing my favourite books cannot be filmed.

And there's a reason so many comics are filmed now, many of the people who make comics care in the way that small film-makers care, writers care. They are not industries, they are artists. So we live in a time where comics have emerged as (often times) intellectually superior to film (many, not all). Hollywood is mining that now for all it can. So get the popcorn and watch their pantomime and hope it's entertaining, I'm sure it will be...but it can't detract from those great set-ups in the source material. Never.

Kurt Vonnegut has a scene in Galapagos that he says, as he is describing it, Hollywood could never film, in one line...he slays mainstream films ability to tell an unusual story, as he tells that story.
Wise man that KV.

WHITE VAN DREDD
http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=147455&gsub=18998
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 29 May, 2012, 11:46:26 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 29 May, 2012, 11:36:17 AM
... There is a default idea that all media moves toward film, it's rubbish...
*Stands up and applauds*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 29 May, 2012, 01:54:24 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 29 May, 2012, 11:36:17 AMas long as the essence of the thing is respected
Quite. It just needs to feel like Dredd for the movie to work. It doesn't have to be a Sin City-style slavish recreation. Still, I guess we'll all see it soon enough.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 29 May, 2012, 06:26:29 PM
...It just occurred to me that by Christmas next year it'll be in the bargain bins at asda..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 29 May, 2012, 06:40:52 PM
Y'know, you bump into random people and then suddenly you're discussing the Dredd trailer. Funny how the world works.

Can't say anything other than the trailer's coming soon. It's being worked on very carefully and they're actually testing it before they release it out to the world.

There's a huge effort to balance it between Dredd fans and a general public who neither know nor care what kind of history Dredd has. The general mood seems to be it simply HAS to appeal to a wider audience if it's going to do well. A big concern about it being compared to the previous movie.

Can't say anymore except the chap has seen the finished movie and really liked it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 29 May, 2012, 06:54:03 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 29 May, 2012, 06:26:29 PM
...It just occurred to me that by Christmas next year it'll be in the bargain bins at asda..

If they don't bloody pull their finger out that well maybe the case. At least us die hards get a second look at a reasonable price ££  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 29 May, 2012, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 29 May, 2012, 06:26:29 PM
...It just occurred to me that by Christmas next year it'll be in the bargain bins at asda..

South Africa has Asda?
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 29 May, 2012, 01:54:24 PM
It doesn't have to be a Sin City-style slavish recreation. Still, I guess we'll all see it soon enough.

I hope it's nothing like Sin City. The visuals completely took over and distracted - I think there was a stripper and a man in a car. With a hat.
Quote from: blackmocco on 29 May, 2012, 06:40:52 PM
Y'know, you bump into random people and then suddenly you're discussing the Dredd trailer. Funny how the world works.

Can't say anything other than the trailer's coming soon.......
Can't say anymore except the chap has seen the finished movie and really liked it.

How do you know this random person is legit? There are some mean, mean, meanies out there that pretend to be in the know and just wind you up.

If legit though - coming soon coming soon coming soon - yay! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 May, 2012, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 29 May, 2012, 11:36:17 AM
Hollywood is mining that now for all it can. So get the popcorn and watch their pantomime and hope it's entertaining, I'm sure it will be...but it can't detract from those great set-ups in the source material. Never.


Both Wanted and Kick-Ass were better as films than they were as comics.

I don't see comics or films to be mutually exclusive; comics always took inspiration from film & TV and vice versa. The early years of Action & 2000AD saw plenty TV & film characters repurposed for a young audience.


I think Marvel characters really only live through their movies now since their respective comics have been prostituted and rebooted to death. If anything I'd say there's a proportionally equal amount of shite in both comics & films, with the smarter, more substantial stuff polpulating the margins of both crafts.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 29 May, 2012, 07:11:07 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 29 May, 2012, 07:02:22 PM

How do you know this random person is legit? There are some mean, mean, meanies out there that pretend to be in the know and just wind you up.

If legit though - coming soon coming soon coming soon - yay! :)

It's legit. Can't say how I know. Don't want to get anyone into trouble.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 29 May, 2012, 07:13:21 PM
QuoteIf they don't bloody pull their finger out that well maybe the case. At least us die hards get a second look at a reasonable price ££

Hey, pretty much all films end up in the bargain bin about a year after release these days, don't they?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 29 May, 2012, 07:37:31 PM
Thats the truth, ... but whatever the result of this film as a fan i'm backing it all the way. This will equal at least two sittings at ur local IMAX and the bluray directors cut! :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 May, 2012, 08:00:38 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 29 May, 2012, 07:37:31 PM
Thats the truth, ... but whatever the result of this film as a fan i'm backing it all the way. This will equal at least two sittings at ur local IMAX and the bluray directors cut! :-)

Can't bloody wait :-)

Also District 9 is on C4 this Sunday :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 29 May, 2012, 08:12:58 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 29 May, 2012, 07:37:31 PM
Thats the truth, ... but whatever the result of this film as a fan i'm backing it all the way. This will equal at least two sittings at ur local IMAX and the bluray directors cut! :-)

Solidarity Grudbrother! With our all the way.  I may even invest in a 3D Tv just so I can watch any 3D Blu-Ray release!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 29 May, 2012, 08:55:19 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 29 May, 2012, 07:02:22 PM
South Africa has Asda?

No.. But there's a few dotted around Cardiff..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 29 May, 2012, 09:11:34 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 May, 2012, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 29 May, 2012, 11:36:17 AM
Hollywood is mining that now for all it can. So get the popcorn and watch their pantomime and hope it's entertaining, I'm sure it will be...but it can't detract from those great set-ups in the source material. Never.
If anything I'd say there's a proportionally equal amount of shite in both comics & films, with the smarter, more substantial stuff polpulating the margins of both crafts.

That's very true. I don't mean to sound off against film. I didnt read Wanted or Kick Ass and I enjoyed the films very much. I'm just a bit fed up that so many things that I have come to appreciate over the years, marginal things, have been boiled to death in the glare of razzmatazz. A current example being Les Miserables with Hugh Jackman. The cast is fine, but that story cannot be told in one film...or even three. So what's the point? Maybe it's for them what think it started life as a musical.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 30 May, 2012, 12:46:17 AM
Hey not sure if you guys have noticed or not, but regarding the recent facebook fan pages deletion, what happened is they have all merged into one, which is now the official page, and they have commented saying poster is coming very soon!


HOOORAYY!!

Here is the link, but you will probably find you are already a fan: https://www.facebook.com/JudgeDredd
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 May, 2012, 01:37:54 AM
Nice find mr eliminator :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 30 May, 2012, 03:05:53 AM
And so it begins. (Finally.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: weehawk on 30 May, 2012, 08:05:38 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 29 May, 2012, 01:54:24 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 29 May, 2012, 11:36:17 AMas long as the essence of the thing is respected
Quite. It just needs to feel like Dredd for the movie to work. It doesn't have to be a Sin City-style slavish recreation. Still, I guess we'll all see it soon enough.

Indeed. The Crow, Blade, and Nolan's Batman films are prime examples of "feeling" the source material without being slavish.

Speaking of Sin City, I have a strong feeling Frank Miller is going to groove on Dredd. It's his type of thing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 May, 2012, 08:51:22 AM
OOh Facebook Dredd says the trailer is coming... sounds promise... and wait for Dredd poster to debut! NICE!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 30 May, 2012, 09:00:56 AM
Hmmm, looks like the pr machine is starting to kick in. Lends a but of credibility to the rumour that the trailer will debut this weekend, and be attached to Prometheus.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 30 May, 2012, 09:01:57 AM
Eliminator: There is hardly anything there, 3 posts and nothing new. How can you tell it's official? Is there an official statement anwhere or is it just because everything except this was deleted?

Great news on poster and official images coming soon though  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 30 May, 2012, 09:05:42 AM
Read the comments.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 30 May, 2012, 09:10:20 AM
Right, it was under the Headey link. It's my FB illiteracy.

"This is the official page! We're waiting on the poster debut to add the cover image and icon, sit tight." /Dredd
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 30 May, 2012, 09:38:37 AM
They also commented on the John Wagner reaction post 'promising' a poster soon!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 30 May, 2012, 09:46:18 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 30 May, 2012, 09:38:37 AM
They also commented on the John Wagner reaction post 'promising' a poster soon!

I hadn't read this anywhere, but this is from the FB page....
Judge Dredd creator John Wagner got a chance to see the Dredd set earlier this year. On Karl Urban, "There was one shot where the camera focused in on his face, a reaction to Anderson, and I swear Carlos [Ezquerra] could have drawn that scowl."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 30 May, 2012, 09:48:50 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 29 May, 2012, 11:46:26 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 29 May, 2012, 11:36:17 AM
... There is a default idea that all media moves toward film, it's rubbish...
*Stands up and applauds*
*Stood and gave a deep bow, sat back down at desk, head down & drawing again*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 30 May, 2012, 10:23:27 AM
QuoteI hadn't read this anywhere, but this is from the FB page....
Judge Dredd creator John Wagner got a chance to see the Dredd set earlier this year. On Karl Urban, "There was one shot where the camera focused in on his face, a reaction to Anderson, and I swear Carlos [Ezquerra] could have drawn that scowl."

Here's the quote in full (well, I've edited out the multiple digressions about vuvuzelas and alpacas!) - taken from a Q&A on Mr W's facebook page, 17th Jan, 2011:

QuoteJust back from the set. I wasn't able to take any photos, I'm afraid, still bound by the official secrets act, but if you want to throw any questions at me I'll answer what I can. Cape Town and surrounding country was absolutely stunning. The film occupies all four giant buildings at the new Cape Town Studios. Sets looked great - grim!

Very pleased with what I saw of Karl Urban and Olivia Thirlby. Both excellent in their roles and work well as a team. Entire crew really dedicated and determined to produce a damned good movie. Sadly I had to leave before I could see them shooting any ultra-vi. Extremely impressed by the 3-D - apart from the demo at Universal Studios in LA, my memories were of the feeble efforts I saw as a youth. This is a real quantum leap from that, really adds depth. This is going to be good.

[on the producers responding to his feedback] Where they could. [screenwriter/producer] Alex Garland and I have had our disagreements but he has usually had a convincing argument for doing things his way. On the main issue, concentrating the plot on a slice of life rather than trying to convey the whole sweep of Dredd and Mega-City life, I now see that he's right. It was one of the flaws of the first movie, they tried to do too much. I just had a brief conversation with Karl [Urban], he's much too hard at work to spare a lot of time. There was one shot where the camera focused in on his face, a reaction to Anderson, and I swear Carlos [Ezquerra] could have drawn that scowl.

The uniform was still fairly paramilitary...but it works for me.

Only got to see a partial shell of a lawmaster, so can't really comment, but did handle a lawgiver. Looked good. Plenty of attention's been given to the script already and of course everything at the moment is a little fluid, so where rewriting has to be done it gets done. Don't know anything about a dedicated film website but I imagine DNA will do something like that. There was plenty of graffiti [...in the backgrounds...] and there was nothing I can think of that I thought was bad or wrong. Karl, when he's acting (and even when he's not!), IS Judge Dredd.

I saw them setting up a lot of stuff for SFX but didn't get to see the final result. While in the FX dept a huge explosion went off - practically jumped out of my skin. Max the tech trying to figure out how to explode a lawgiver without killing the actor using it!

What I saw [...] was very Mega-City. South Africa's got something of Mega-City about it in any case. On the morning I was supposed to do an interview with a reporter from Time Magazine I got a text from the studio: "Time reporter has been mugged - interview is cancelled."

[on prospect of sequels...] Agree absolutely about more Dredd.

[Dredd has...] No facial hair, just some tough bristle.

I wouldn't read the [Peach Trees] script - much more fun not knowing.

...the uniform doesn't look like a muscle suit. It is very believable.

I'm very satisfied with the way it's going but it's not going to fulfill everyone's hopes and dreams - that would be impossible with so many diverse demands upon it. Let's say that it's a damned good start and my guess is that most fans are going to like it a lot. Remember, if this one does well there will be more films to follow and these will cover other aspects of Mega-City life. By the end of it we should have a very good picture of Dredd's world in the round.

The eagle was on the shoulder [of the uniform], I think (I'm not that tuned to the visual aspect of things), muted but satisfactory. Karl's got many voices and he certainly gets the gruffness and authority in Dredd's. [director] Pete's pretty clued up on Dredd, as are many of the crew, being old-time 2000AD readers. I was surprised by how many had an in depth knowledge of and love for the character. That was very gratifying.

I thought Ma-ma was right on the button, but she's not what I expected. Better. Very good actress. I say no more.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 30 May, 2012, 10:32:02 AM
"Max the tech trying to figure out how to explode a lawgiver without killing the actor using it!"

Less CGI = good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 30 May, 2012, 11:32:38 AM
Thanks for the edited version, Radiator!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 30 May, 2012, 12:46:37 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 30 May, 2012, 10:32:02 AM
"Max the tech trying to figure out how to explode a lawgiver without killing the actor using it!"

Less CGI = good.

Agreed!  Even some stop frame animation still comes over better than certain CGI effects, and you just can't beat a good old fashioned REAL explosion!

Also, thanks for compiling that section of Wagner q&a's. It was almost as exciting as his commentary of the finished film!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 30 May, 2012, 01:12:08 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 30 May, 2012, 12:46:37 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 30 May, 2012, 10:32:02 AM
"Max the tech trying to figure out how to explode a lawgiver without killing the actor using it!"

Less CGI = good.

Agreed!  Even some stop frame animation still comes over better than certain CGI effects, and you just can't beat a good old fashioned REAL explosion!


The best example is The Thing where the original had effects that were far better than the CGI in the sequel made some 20 years later.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 30 May, 2012, 01:43:54 PM
Also agree that practical effects often look better.  Just look at how amazing the city in Blade Runner looks and that was for a film made 30 years ago.  Thanks to excellent minature work and clever use of lighting, those effects still stand up today.  In fact, one of the reasons that film has stood the test of time so well is that since CGI didn't exist back then, everything had to be done "for real". 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 30 May, 2012, 03:08:00 PM
Models and sets FTW. Moon is another great example of a fab indie using this over loads of CGI.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 30 May, 2012, 03:26:01 PM
Moon is a great example indeed Indigo - fitting as well given that Duncan Jones came close to directing Dredd! Let's hope Mr Travis follows in the spirit of that low-budget classic!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 30 May, 2012, 03:27:29 PM
...I mean follow Moon's spirit in terms of effects!  As much as I loved Moon, I'd expect Dredd to have a bit more action!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 30 May, 2012, 06:12:20 PM
It seems Carlos isn't too impressed with what he's seen so far. Though takes some comfort in Lord Wagner's approval.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 30 May, 2012, 06:23:41 PM
Quote from: Stan on 30 May, 2012, 06:12:20 PM
It seems Carlos isn't too impressed with what he's seen so far. Though takes some comfort in Lord Wagner's approval.

Carlos has been somewhat muted on all this now that you've mentioned it !? :-*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 May, 2012, 06:29:24 PM
Quote from: Stan on 30 May, 2012, 06:12:20 PM
It seems Carlos isn't too impressed with what he's seen so far. Though takes some comfort in Lord Wagner's approval.


References?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 30 May, 2012, 06:37:44 PM
His Facebook page.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 30 May, 2012, 06:38:40 PM
He hasn't seen the film itself though...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 30 May, 2012, 06:50:39 PM
He says"the truth is that costumes seem to of the riot, but if the environment and the characters are well done, is something that can forgive... "

(translated from Spanish)

That's not too bad
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 30 May, 2012, 07:00:22 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 30 May, 2012, 06:50:39 PM
He says"the truth is that costumes seem to of the riot, but if the environment and the characters are well done, is something that can forgive... "

(translated from Spanish)

That's not too bad

Yeah, I can't say it's too surprising that Carlos Ezquerra would be less happy than most to see the uniforms from the comics altered into something more generic-looking.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 May, 2012, 07:16:48 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 30 May, 2012, 06:50:39 PM
He says"the truth is that costumes seem to of the riot, but if the environment and the characters are well done, is something that can forgive... "

(translated from Spanish)

That's not too bad


Not too much of a 'quibble'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 30 May, 2012, 07:17:25 PM
Whoops. Probably should've went to his actual page rather than paraphrase something from the ticker, but laziness and all that..

"I haven't seen it, it was only John. Personally I am not too impressed with what I've seen, but I have plenty confidence in John's judgement."

Fixed 'impressed' to be all gentlemanly like. I now see where he's coming from with the riot gear comment. Though I quite like the look myself.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 30 May, 2012, 07:28:18 PM
Ironically, to me the uniforms look closer to Carlos' original design.

The images remind me of flashback scenes Origins, where the early judges are more like riot plice. I liked the way in that story it fed back into modern-day with its use of more contemporary-looking bikes and cars; in a way it makes perfect sense that the cars and bikes would start looking ordinary, as they were earlier in Dredd's lifetime. If the movie is a hit there will be greater opportunity for higher-tech in sequels set later.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 May, 2012, 07:50:36 PM
Quote from: Adrian Bamforth on 30 May, 2012, 07:28:18 PM
Ironically, to me the uniforms look closer to Carlos' original design.

I agree...

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg823/scaled.php?server=823&filename=dreddprog2comparison1b.jpg&res=landing)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 May, 2012, 09:28:45 PM
Quote from: Adrian Bamforth on 30 May, 2012, 07:28:18 PM
Ironically, to me the uniforms look closer to Carlos' original design.

The images remind me of flashback scenes Origins, where the early judges are more like riot plice. I liked the way in that story it fed back into modern-day with its use of more contemporary-looking bikes and cars; in a way it makes perfect sense that the cars and bikes would start looking ordinary, as they were earlier in Dredd's lifetime. If the movie is a hit there will be greater opportunity for higher-tech in sequels set later.

That makes sense and leads to better continuity from the comics.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 30 May, 2012, 10:37:51 PM
Quote from: Adrian Bamforth on 30 May, 2012, 07:28:18 PM
the uniforms look closer to Carlos' original design.

It's true.....and it just occurred to me this may be earlier in his career and ( if more films are made) they could jump forward 20 years in a later film, show the more futuristic city.

Does anyone recall there were occasionally policemen helping the judges in early progs?...I seem to think they had squad cars, jeeps....I may be way off here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 May, 2012, 10:44:45 PM
(http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/5141/police1w.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 30 May, 2012, 10:45:01 PM
There were police, but they had smallish hover squad cars/vans
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 May, 2012, 10:46:25 PM
There was also only about a dozen Judges in the whole of MC-1:


(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/963/2000adannual1978075.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 30 May, 2012, 10:51:35 PM
Someone's playing Billie Jean and only Steele can hear it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 30 May, 2012, 11:06:32 PM
Orange was big in the 70s as well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 May, 2012, 11:25:45 PM
Helmets are a bit small ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 30 May, 2012, 11:55:27 PM
Interesting pages there - I had no idea there only being a few of them, having never read much very early stuff. Also, love the terrible colour setting.

I think for me the ideal Dredd film about probably deal a lot with how the city got to where it was, much like Origins. I was never a big advocate of the story being just a day in the life, though such a story would probably simply be way too epic for the budget.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 31 May, 2012, 12:57:57 AM
No reason the uniform can't change and develop in (hopefully) sequels. The Batman costume changed for every film, sometimes a little too...uh... quirky  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 31 May, 2012, 03:08:18 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 May, 2012, 10:46:25 PM
There was also only about a dozen Judges in the whole of MC-1:


(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/963/2000adannual1978075.jpg)

Looks like Steele has nicked Dredds Lawgiver and hidden it in, erhem ,a 'restricted area' :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 31 May, 2012, 04:39:53 AM
Quote from: Stan on 30 May, 2012, 07:17:25 PM
Whoops. Probably should've went to his actual page rather than paraphrase something from the ticker, but laziness and all that..
"I haven't seen it, it was only John. Personally I am not too impressed with what I've seen, but I have plenty confidence in John's judgement."
Fixed 'impressed' to be all gentlemanly like. I now see where he's coming from with the riot gear comment. Though I quite like the look myself.

He wouldn't want it closer to the costumes in the 1995 debacle, would he?  The whole 'riot gear' thing is an essential element of the Judge's look, they're basically a cross between a full-time riot cop and a one-man SWAT unit, I for one absolutely love the new Judge costumes body armour in Dredd, it's Mega-City One I'm dying to see...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 31 May, 2012, 05:34:39 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 31 May, 2012, 03:08:18 AM
Looks like Steele has nicked Dredds Lawgiver and hidden it in, erhem ,a 'restricted area' :P

You've obviously not examined the dialogue properly.

(http://www.johnkingworld.com/cow/weewee.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 31 May, 2012, 06:45:54 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 May, 2012, 10:46:25 PM
There was also only about a dozen Judges in the whole of MC-1:

Thanks for digging those up Joe Soap. They sum up, for me, that feeling of a less established operation in the early days. The cops look more para-military than I recall, but still, the judges were elite and worked with police units. That lesser budget view may fit very well with what I remember. I'm digging that glass-backed bucket seat...in the not so grand hall. Love the mis-registered cols.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 31 May, 2012, 06:48:56 AM
....and that crease! I doubt it still happens but I remember getting issues like that where the newsprint would have been creased before it hit the ink rollers, it would like cracks running through the pages. Oops...total digression....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: minus on 31 May, 2012, 06:53:07 AM
Nothing wrong with the orange and black... or the crease for that matter. If they dropped this onto us nowadays we'd all be raving about it. Well I would anyway. I miss that newsprint and ABC warriors as a full colour centre spread. :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 31 May, 2012, 07:17:15 AM


You've obviously not examined the dialogue properly.

(http://www.johnkingworld.com/cow/weewee.jpg)
[/quote]

1 Text and 2 subtext!! :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 31 May, 2012, 07:19:58 AM
My Dok!  So this was the first appearance of the fabled Poo Machine!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 31 May, 2012, 08:28:40 AM
But where's the gun?...the other two have theirs booted.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mike Carroll on 31 May, 2012, 10:41:10 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 31 May, 2012, 07:19:58 AM
My Dok!  So this was the first appearance of the fabled Poo Machine!

:)
You mean this (http://www.michaelowencarroll.com/3d-dredd.htm#jdpm) Poo Machine?

(Haven't looked at that image in a while, but - man, those "Sleep Machines" were clearly done in a hurry!)

- Mike
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 31 May, 2012, 10:53:16 AM
Quote from: Mike Carroll on 31 May, 2012, 10:41:10 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 31 May, 2012, 07:19:58 AM
My Dok!  So this was the first appearance of the fabled Poo Machine!

:)
You mean this (http://www.michaelowencarroll.com/3d-dredd.htm#jdpm) Poo Machine?

(Haven't looked at that image in a while, but - man, those "Sleep Machines" were clearly done in a hurry!)

- Mike

Err, I think Dredd may need a fresh uniform after that!  On second thoughts, he should lock himself up for defilement of Justice Deptartment property...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 31 May, 2012, 11:00:15 AM
Judge uniforms have bumflaps, union suit style.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 31 May, 2012, 12:16:26 PM
Carlos doesn't say it, so this is just me guessing, but he might be quibbling over the lack of tightness in the uniform. And slick-shine. Which might look cool in comics but in the real world, look pretty damn dumb. On women, it works, but on men, sorry to say but it just looks like you're in some ridiculous wrestling outfit. Even if it's black.

But more important than how it looks, is that it would be bloody horrible to wear. Under the heat of the studio lights as well as natural surrounds, the sweat would be just running rivers in there. I've had that experience, never to be repeated I swore to high heaven, and trust me, you don't want your actors suffering through that in South Africa for the better part of the day.

Also shiny ain't great for camouflage.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 31 May, 2012, 02:02:29 PM
I always thought of Ezquerra's artwork, as more 'stubbly' than shiny, but I reckon you might be onto something with the idea that the uniform (and perhaps the city and vehicles e.t.c.) are not elaborate enough to reflect his personal vision.

It would make sense he would feel that way,- just as it would make sense that it wouldn't bother Wagner in the least; the uber-stylised uniform, designed by Carlos, was a bone of contention for Wagner back in the early days of Judge Dredd's creative development.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 31 May, 2012, 02:45:57 PM
Found the legendary quote for Wagner's first reaction to Carlos' design:
"Fuckin Hell!  He looks like a fucking Spanish Pirate!  I'm not writing him, he looks fucking stupid!"
( this always makes me chuckle).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 31 May, 2012, 06:19:25 PM
Nice. I'm not sure where I read it but that does sound familiar.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 May, 2012, 09:40:00 PM
Wider version of the magazine shot is now on IM Global's Dredd page:


(http://www.imglobalfilm.com/uploads/396b81bf36bf1af7aefc027a4b2a50dc64300f5c.jpg)



Minty is the Law, indeed.



http://www.imglobalfilm.com/opus/dredd
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 May, 2012, 09:41:13 PM
Haha! Brilliant injoke about Minty!

Is that a body??
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 31 May, 2012, 09:44:20 PM
That bloke going airborne in the background is adding more icing on the Dredd cake.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 31 May, 2012, 09:45:47 PM
I love that so far, there's just no nice way to die in this movie. Awesome!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 May, 2012, 09:49:05 PM
Sorry for new post, as the picture finally shows where the Lawgiver holster is, his thigh.

(http://www.imglobalfilm.com/uploads/396b81bf36bf1af7aefc027a4b2a50dc64300f5c.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 31 May, 2012, 09:50:51 PM
Superb pic!

Thanks Goaty!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 May, 2012, 09:52:09 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 31 May, 2012, 09:50:51 PM
Superb pic!

Thanks Goaty!

sure, but Mr Soap post it first, on a page ago.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 31 May, 2012, 09:52:25 PM
Hah!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 May, 2012, 09:52:39 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 31 May, 2012, 09:49:05 PM
Sorry for new post, as the picture finally shows where the Lawgiver holster is, his thigh.





Thought that was pretty clear from the Empire cover:

http://electroshadow.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/DreddEmp-1.jpg
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 May, 2012, 09:54:23 PM
My bad, your right Mr Soap, well I get Subscriber Empire cover of Dredd.  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 31 May, 2012, 09:54:58 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 31 May, 2012, 09:52:09 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 31 May, 2012, 09:50:51 PM
Superb pic!

Thanks Goaty!

sure, but Mr Soap post it first, on a page ago.

oops!Sorry Joe!Thanks to you too!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 31 May, 2012, 09:55:46 PM
Guessing that's a shot prior to compositing as it looks like a greenscreen in the b/g...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 31 May, 2012, 09:58:01 PM
My Grud, is that Minty reference really in the film..? Not photoshopped in or anything?!?  If so, how awesome is that!!  The fan flick makers must be chuffed!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 31 May, 2012, 10:03:58 PM
I guess it must be legit as it's on the IMGlobal page.

Not sure where it originated, but Dan took a guy called Darren down to the offices in costume, and they were loaned a helmet for reference, so maybe it's via someone in the DNA office.

It's very sweet of them whoever it was.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 31 May, 2012, 10:12:36 PM
I think it's photoshopped in.
The "L" in the latest picture doesn't seem to match the angle of what's written in the Cannes poster.
(http://geektyrantsquared.squarespace.com/storage/2011-post-images/cannesdredd.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1337301510130)

Nice reference though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 31 May, 2012, 10:14:21 PM
Isn't it more likely that it was shopped out for the mag cover?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 31 May, 2012, 10:16:42 PM
It is in this similar shot.

(http://www.flicksandbits.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/empire-dredd-08.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 May, 2012, 10:16:54 PM
I believe it's the reverse, the Cannes mag cover looks photoshopped to b'jaysus. Nothing matches the original, even the placement of Dredd's figure has been shifted.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mr.Fastrope on 31 May, 2012, 10:19:24 PM
Quote from: Mike Carroll on 31 May, 2012, 10:41:10 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 31 May, 2012, 07:19:58 AM
My Dok!  So this was the first appearance of the fabled Poo Machine!

:)
You mean this (http://www.michaelowencarroll.com/3d-dredd.htm#jdpm) Poo Machine?

(Haven't looked at that image in a while, but - man, those "Sleep Machines" were clearly done in a hurry!)

- Mike

Wow brillant work Mike Carroll. Amazing, fascinating..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 31 May, 2012, 10:20:18 PM
I hope it is true. Surely the Minty Production team deserve some recognition for all their sterling efforts? 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 May, 2012, 10:21:18 PM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 31 May, 2012, 10:12:36 PM
I think it's photoshopped in.
The "L" in the latest picture doesn't seem to match the angle of what's written in the Cannes poster.

Nice reference though.

That Cannes Poster is heavy photoshopped.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 May, 2012, 10:23:09 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 31 May, 2012, 10:16:54 PM
I believe it's the reverse, the Cannes mag cover looks photoshopped to b'jaysus. Nothing matches the original, even the placement of Dredd's figure has been shifted.

Sorry my bad again, you been post about that, I do wish modify is back soon!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 31 May, 2012, 10:40:56 PM
Can not wait for all the filmstills by Mr. Joe Alblas in HQ and clean and all and hmmmmmm.
The press is slowly going into next gear :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 01 June, 2012, 12:14:36 AM
I am so fucking excited for this film!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 12:20:59 AM
Relax, Empire haven't reviewed it yet. Wait for the backlash.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 01 June, 2012, 12:29:07 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 12:20:59 AM
Relax, Empire haven't reviewed it yet. Wait for the backlash.

Empire will give Dredd two stars and say it was better than Pluto Nash and Wild, Wild, West but would of benefited from more Rob Shneider!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 01 June, 2012, 12:34:17 AM
Haha! I really angry at empire for giving prometheus 3 stars, even if it is really disappointing, they normally are suckers for hype, and the one big blockbuster I do get excited about, they bloody pan!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 01 June, 2012, 12:36:37 AM
Also sorry for swearing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 01 June, 2012, 12:39:24 AM
Nice hats off to Minty!  The story of some of the Minty crew attending the said meeting came out at Thought Bubble last year and was a joint first highlight of the con for me (next to meeting Mick)  :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 01 June, 2012, 12:40:12 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 01 June, 2012, 12:36:37 AM
Also sorry for swearing.

Yes, you should be!

It's not big or clever! Unless you're Danny Dyer of course, in which case it's really manly and hard!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 01 June, 2012, 12:41:09 AM
Ha I just got the minty thing!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 01 June, 2012, 12:42:07 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 01 June, 2012, 12:29:07 AM
Empire will give Dredd two stars and say it was better than Pluto Nash and Wild, Wild, West but would of benefited from more Rob Shneider!

Did someone say intrusive cameo? (http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/6815/fergee.jpg)
By mrosborn (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/mrosborn) at 2012-03-30
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 01 June, 2012, 12:45:52 AM

[/quote]

Did someone say intrusive cameo? (http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/6815/fergee.jpg)
By mrosborn (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/mrosborn) at 2012-03-30
[/quote]


:o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 01 June, 2012, 12:56:07 AM
So that's what happens when you forget to unclick 'full details' on Imageshack. Stupid internet stalking.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 01 June, 2012, 01:02:26 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 12:20:59 AM
Relax, Empire haven't reviewed it yet. Wait for the backlash.

Well reviews are important no doubt, and here's hoping Empire and other movie mags love it; but I'm sure we'd all rather it was a critical failure and a commercial success than the other way around.

I've no doubt direct comparisons will be made to the well-funded and occasionally brilliant (mean-machine, por ejemplo) art dept of the 90's version, ( which the cash simply aint there for this time 'round) and plot similarity to The Raid is undoubtedly gonna pop-up too.

But, if I can be forgiven for wildly speculating about reviews I haven't read for a film I haven't seen, I think that these comparisons could result in Dredd being seen in a more favorable light: The mess of 95 proved that all the shiny surface elements in the world don't make a good story;and twixt Wagner's reaction and Garland's screen-writing form, I think it's likely that this time round the tale is a comprehensible one and has at least  been well-told.

The Raid is a satisfying high octane ballet for folk who are happy to watch blood, dance-fighting and snot for an hour, but it is almost entirely without meaningful characters or drama, and while the Dredd script and The Raid are equally unlikely to attract Oscar nominations, I reckon Garland actually has done a lot more with the premise and a lot of film reviewers should pick upon that.

In other words, I'm with Signor ELIMINATOR: positively salivating. I can't help it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 01:07:12 AM
FUCK THE OSCARS.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 01 June, 2012, 01:12:47 AM
UP THE BUM WITH A BROKEN BOTTLE!


Quote from: darnmarr on 01 June, 2012, 01:02:26 AM

Well reviews are important no doubt, and here's hoping Empire and other movie mags love it; but I'm sure we'd all rather it was a critical failure and a commercial success than the other way around.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 01 June, 2012, 02:12:47 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 31 May, 2012, 10:20:18 PM
Surely the Minty Production team deserve some recognition for all their sterling efforts?

And possible inclusion on the Dredd DVD and Blu ray when it's released, THAT would be awesome...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 01 June, 2012, 05:12:06 AM
No Dredd trailer with Prometheus? It was out last at midnight,maybe when its released in the US?

And screw that Empire review of Pro,felt like the guy had already made his mind up before hew saw it.I've read a few 9/10 and plenty of 8/10 reviews so I'm still pumpped for that...they gave Attack of the Clones 5/5,thats why I don't buy that bullshit rag anymore.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 01 June, 2012, 06:45:31 AM
I'm looking forward to Prometheus anyway, have to wait another week till it's out here though  :-\

I've avoided most spoilers for it. I assume at least some of the poorer reviews may be the result of people expecting the film to be something that it isn't (a straight prequel, essentially). But then I am avoiding most of the press and reviews, just seeing star ratings and quick, concise summaries of peoples feelings on twitter.

Scott's films rarely do well with the critics. At least initially anyway. I'll make up my own mind next week  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 01 June, 2012, 09:00:44 AM
Alien got slated on release,says it all.and,yeah it seems folks are disappointed thats it's not Alieny enough re scares and such ...... Anyway I'll find out tomorrow if DRedd is there
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 01 June, 2012, 09:07:24 AM
Just tried to check the Dredd FB site and it's down for some reason. Anyone know what's going on? You don't have to shut down a FB page just to update it do you?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 09:12:22 AM
http://www.facebook.com/dreddthemovie
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 01 June, 2012, 09:18:30 AM
Thanks! So many broken links...  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 01 June, 2012, 09:27:40 AM
QuoteAnd screw that Empire review of Pro,felt like the guy had already made his mind up before hew saw it.

Yes, because certainly nobody has expressed an opinion, without seeing it, that this was going to be the movie of the year.
Me, I think he gave an opinion on the movie that you and others do not want to agree with.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 01 June, 2012, 09:46:34 AM
True - I desperately want Dredd to the sleeper smash of the year, but im aware that it could go either way and if it gets mixed reviews as Prometheus has done I'm not going to delude myself that it's for any other reason than it's likely going to have tangible flaws and is probably going to disappoint me.

Saying "well they gave film x 4 stars so what do they know" is totally illogical - as if one guy writes every single review for a given site or magazine.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 01 June, 2012, 10:03:40 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 01 June, 2012, 09:27:40 AM
QuoteAnd screw that Empire review of Pro,felt like the guy had already made his mind up before hew saw it.

Yes, because certainly nobody has expressed an opinion, without seeing it, that this was going to be the movie of the year.
Me, I think he gave an opinion on the movie that you and others do not want to agree with.
Like I said,I'll make up my mind tomorrow because I gave up trusting Empire reviews years ago,I tend to read as many reviews as possible without spoilers and then take an average as to if I see it or not.HIs review seemed negative from the off,not balanced,that was my point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 01 June, 2012, 10:25:54 AM
Some friends saw the midnight showing of Prometheus last night in Leeds.

There were some crap horror film trailers, Dark Knight Rises and Spider-Man (which apparently looks ace in 3D), but no Dredd.

The wait goes on...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 11:00:51 AM
Quote from: radiator on 01 June, 2012, 09:46:34 AM
I desperately want Dredd to the sleeper smash of the year


I don't have any desperate feelings regarding Dredd, I'd like it to be a decent stab at a Dredd film but I'm not looking for mass cultural acceptance or for a Hunger Games style sensation either. It's a 50/50 bet as to how it all works out but I don't get an overwhelming feeling of audience crossover appeal. We'll be served well if it's a good film.

Dredd's always been a grow-er rather than a show-er. It'll make its money globally which is the intended work model of IM Global -mid-budget niche films with a global appeal- so sequels don't necessarily wholely depend on a complete US box-office clean-up but a modest earning.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 01 June, 2012, 11:11:52 AM
QuoteI don't have any desperate feelings regarding Dredd, I'd like it to be a decent stab at a Dredd film but I'm not looking for mass cultural acceptance or for a Hunger Games style sensation either. It's a 50/50 bet as to how it all works out but I don't get an overwhelming feeling of audience crossover appeal. We'll be served well if it's a good film.

Dredd's always been a grow-er rather than a show-er. It'll make its money globally which is the intended work model of IM Global -mid-budget niche films with a global appeal- so sequels don't necessarily wholely depend on a complete US box-office clean-up but a modest earning.

Oh, I very much agree - there's no realistic chance of Dredd being a huge mainstream success. What I'm saying is that I hope it exceeds (what are presumably relatively modest) expectations - critically and commercially.

I feel as if I have a stake in it because the fate of future 2000ad films - perhaps even the continued survival of 2000ad itself - are in part tied to how Dredd fares.

There's also the fact that - even in the face of what is arguably some pretty widespread negative buzz surrounding the whole project - I've been defiantly telling anyone who'll listen that I have faith that it's going to be good for several years. I can tell my friends - some of whom are Dredd fans - are somewhat sceptical and I'm going to look a bit silly if it does turn out to be a dud.  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 11:15:28 AM
Be careful what you wish for.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 01 June, 2012, 11:37:05 AM
I am pretty sure some people here will leave the cinema after Dredd having that SW Ep1 feeling-  where it'll never live up to their own expectations.

Having seen The Raid I was pretty underwhelmed at how shallow it was, some great fight scenes yes, but little else I thought worthy of such high review ratings.

I trust the DNA team to produce a great film, and certainly one with a fair bit more meat than The Raid for the audience to get to grips with - and that alone fills me with hope.

 
,
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 01 June, 2012, 11:42:59 AM
QuoteI am pretty sure some people here will leave the cinema after Dredd having that SW Ep1 feeling-  where it'll never live up to their own expectations.

That was kind of my point - I think I'm being fairly realistic about my expectations of DREDD - I'm under no illusions about it, and though I haven't read the script I know enough about it to have serious concerns about certain aspects of it.

I guess I'm just hoping for an exciting, edgy film that we as Dredd fans can be proud of.

I enjoyed The Raid but agree that it - like Prometheus by the sounds of it - was the victim of it's own hype. Perhaps the negative buzz will work in DREDD's favour? Who knows.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 11:47:23 AM
Quote from: Teivion on 01 June, 2012, 11:37:05 AM
I am pretty sure some people here will leave the cinema after Dredd having that SW Ep1 feeling-  where it'll never live up to their own expectations.


Can't imagine I'll ever have that feeling again. When I firat saw SWI, I was in holiday in Boston, I remember sitting in the theatre as the kids around me whooped and hollered -what strange rituals the colonies practice- and thinking jaysus, Lucas is not even trying.

Can't see that with Dredd, the impression I get is that people have at least been pulling out the stops and pulling favours to make a decent adaptation on a modest budget.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 11:52:19 AM
Quote from: radiator on 01 June, 2012, 11:42:59 AM
I enjoyed The Raid but agree that it - like Prometheus by the sounds of it - was the victim of it's own hype. Perhaps the negative buzz will work in DREDD's favour? Who knows.


In fairness to the Raid it was never promoted as anything but a superlative martial arts/action film and on that promise alone it delivers in spades -on a budget 1/45th of Dredd- whereas delivering on promises seems not to be Prometheus' best feature, and at such expense.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 01 June, 2012, 11:56:08 AM
I think the hype around The Raid was more from the audience side - blogs, websites etc. "BEST ACTION MOVIE IN DECADES!" etc. From what I'd heard I was expecting it to be one long action scene, but it's actually fairly slow in places.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 12:04:45 PM
I like its pacing, don't hink I could watch a film that was just one long action scene. If I''m expected to sit for 90-120 mins in a cinema I expect variety not monotony.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 01 June, 2012, 12:27:51 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 11:47:23 AM

... I remember sitting in the theatre as the kids around me whooped and hollered -what strange rituals the colonies practice...


Ireland had colonies now?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 12:31:23 PM
D'ya think we sent air on famine ships?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 01 June, 2012, 12:33:27 PM
Point taken: Boston's pretty well-stocked with son's of the ould sod.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 01 June, 2012, 12:36:50 PM
Personally I thought the Raid stopped a little too much as well, I didn't like the constant swapping over between characters as it really disrupted the flow. Some fantastic action sequences, though that finally battle really began to frustrate me after a bit 10 minutes. Also, shaky cameras do my head in. I like action when it is smooth and you can see it.

Still a bloody great film, but I am confident Dredd will be better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 01 June, 2012, 12:44:48 PM
I agree, also[spoiler] the slicing throat-cut with the broken flourescent light, was, for me even more impossible and ridiculous than the ballet-fights. You cant do that with a broken light bulb: they're fragile and breaky and the sharp edge is round, you cant slice butter with a broken flourescent![/spoiler] Thatwasjust stoopid IMO.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 01 June, 2012, 12:58:20 PM
(http://www.fugitivestudios.co.uk/images/pastprojects_v03.jpg)

http://www.fugitivestudios.co.uk
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 01 June, 2012, 12:59:11 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 01 June, 2012, 01:25:27 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 01 June, 2012, 12:58:20 PM
(http://www.fugitivestudios.co.uk/images/pastprojects_v03.jpg)

http://www.fugitivestudios.co.uk

A nice find , wonder if thats the logo they will be using.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 01 June, 2012, 01:28:20 PM
So long as it aint DR3DD:ouch!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 01 June, 2012, 01:29:15 PM
According to IMDB they were involved in the Main Title Animation so id say that image IS the DREDD logo.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 June, 2012, 01:36:22 PM
Yes as all other logos are official film logos so that Dredd is official logo, much better!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 01 June, 2012, 01:36:51 PM
Simply and manly. I like.

@imdb: good @ whowasinvolved, bad @ release_dates
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 01 June, 2012, 01:40:24 PM
Ace - that's the comic Dredd logo isn't it?

For a second there I was worried for a second they were going to use this monstrosity:

(http://geektyrant.com/storage/2011-post-images/cannesdredd.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1337301551785)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 01 June, 2012, 01:40:51 PM
I like that logo. It's almost the current Megazine one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 01 June, 2012, 02:03:32 PM
Saw Prometheus at the midnight premier,here is my review - [spoiler]in order.. :o :o :| :| :| :( :-* :-\ :'( :-[and finally  :( :( :'( and after reflection  >:( :( :-\[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 01 June, 2012, 02:06:32 PM
I like that font.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 01 June, 2012, 02:19:14 PM
Just realised though that it is the same font used on that fan poster I posted recently.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ajqa9l.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 01 June, 2012, 02:25:24 PM
(http://i50.tinypic.com/10em1p1.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: opaque on 01 June, 2012, 02:27:51 PM
I don't know if it's been mentioned but is it likely that there will be 2D as well as 3D versions of Dredd in the cinema?
Just thinking that depending on the number of films out at the time of release there might not be the space even if there is the option (as there often seems to be with 3D movies)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 01 June, 2012, 02:51:07 PM
Quote from: opaque on 01 June, 2012, 02:27:51 PM
I don't know if its been mentioned but is it likely that there will be 2D as well as 3D versions of Dredd in the cinema?

Very highly likely indeed as that's what happens with all other 3D films.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 01 June, 2012, 02:52:50 PM
So I guess that Dredd facebook page was a fake? It seems to be gone.

And I don't remember THE RAID slowing down much. I actually thought the nonstop action got exhausting at certain points. There was some shaky cam at the beginning, but everything was clear during all of the hand to hand fights. If I had to guess, I'd say DREDD will have more annoying shaky cam than THE RAID. I'm basing this on Pete Travis' last movie VANTAGE POINT, which was a shaky cam mess of a movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 02:54:36 PM
Quote from: wadew1 on 01 June, 2012, 02:52:50 PM
So I guess that Dredd facebook page was a fake? It seems to be gone.



http://www.facebook.com/dreddthemovie
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 02:57:47 PM
Quote from: wadew1 on 01 June, 2012, 02:52:50 PM
If I had to guess, I'd say DREDD will have more annoying shaky cam than THE RAID. I'm basing this on Pete Travis' last movie VANTAGE POINT, which was a shaky cam mess of a movie.


So have you seen any of the films Anthony Dod Mantle has shot? It's not advisable to have too much shaky cam in 3D so I don't think there'll be too much and judging by the rigs and gear they've built for the film I don't think it's all hand-held.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 01 June, 2012, 03:01:40 PM
thanks for the facebook link.

And you'd think there would be a good amount of handheld in DREDD since a lot of the movie takes place in hallways, but who knows?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 03:07:38 PM
It depends on the cutting too and it's a lot harder to throw around a large 3D rig -incl. two cameras- on your shoulder so I'd say a lot of it uses gimbaled Steadicams for long tracks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 01 June, 2012, 03:11:29 PM
3D steadicams were used during production, but considering how heavy they're supposed to be, I imagine any major shakiness to be applied in post... as it often is anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 01 June, 2012, 03:32:58 PM
god I hope not. It's a despicable fad. I still feel nauseous just thinking about Cloverfield.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 01 June, 2012, 03:36:35 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 01 June, 2012, 02:51:07 PM
Quote from: opaque on 01 June, 2012, 02:27:51 PM
I don't know if its been mentioned but is it likely that there will be 2D as well as 3D versions of Dredd in the cinema?

Very highly likely indeed as that's what happens with all other 3D films.

Well not always. I couldn't find Tron in 2D so had to endure the goggles, and expense.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: opaque on 01 June, 2012, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: Stan on 01 June, 2012, 03:36:35 PMWell not always. I couldn't find Tron in 2D so had to endure the goggles, and expense.

That's the thing. Theres likely to be a 2d/3d version on bluray when it gets released later but not every movie has it as an option, especially if it's not a 'big one' or theres a lot of competition. In some cinemas at certain times it's hard to find the major films in 2D, let alone a more 'indie' one like Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 01 June, 2012, 04:10:25 PM
I'm not a fan of 3d but it wouldn't put me off going to see something.

I imagine I'll be seeing DREDD in both 2D and 3D - I'm quite intrigued what they've done with the 3D aspect, as it's been shot specifically (not dodgily post-converted) and IIRC they mounted 3D cameras on vehicles for a car chase sequence which has never been done before. And let's face it - who doesn't want to see [spoiler]people's heads exploding in 3D and slow motion?[/spoiler]

I'm also curious to see how they utilise it in conjunction with the cinematography which has been described in terms of pin sharp extreme close-ups (which should look incredible in 3D), 'use of negative space', 'painterly compositions'.... It does sound like it'll be an interesting looking film if nothing else.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 01 June, 2012, 05:03:01 PM
Quote from: opaque on 01 June, 2012, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: Stan on 01 June, 2012, 03:36:35 PMWell not always. I couldn't find Tron in 2D so had to endure the goggles, and expense.

That's the thing. Theres likely to be a 2d/3d version on bluray when it gets released later but not every movie has it as an option, especially if it's not a 'big one' or theres a lot of competition. In some cinemas at certain times it's hard to find the major films in 2D, let alone a more 'indie' one like Dredd.

Yeah, that's what bothers me about the whole 3D thing. Generally speaking. Though, like Radiator I'm a little curious to see why they thought it necessary for Dredd so I don't mind donning the goggles for this one.

At all other times though it's annoying when there's no choice.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 01 June, 2012, 05:03:52 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 01 June, 2012, 02:19:14 PM
Just realised though that it is the same font used on that fan poster I posted recently.

The lower half of the characters are more squat that those in the fan poster. Look at the R in particular (font nerd graphic designer here).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 01 June, 2012, 05:06:06 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 02:54:36 PM
Quote from: wadew1 on 01 June, 2012, 02:52:50 PM
So I guess that Dredd facebook page was a fake? It seems to be gone.



http://www.facebook.com/dreddthemovie

Would it kill them to stick something, ANYthing, in the profile pic? A sad, sad sight...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 01 June, 2012, 05:07:44 PM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 01 June, 2012, 05:03:52 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 01 June, 2012, 02:19:14 PM
Just realised though that it is the same font used on that fan poster I posted recently.

The lower half of the characters are more squat that those in the fan poster. Look at the R in particular (font nerd graphic designer here).
Yep I thought it was 'Impact', but the 'R' says no.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 01 June, 2012, 05:17:29 PM
I'd have been deeply disappointed if the Dredd logo was just Impact font.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 01 June, 2012, 05:23:50 PM
Regarding the earlier conversation about 3D (I hate this thread):

I've never seen a film in 3D either - I only have one focusing eye (the other one does still work, sort of!).

I'm overjoyed today that I've just found somewhere within 20 miles of me showing Prometheus in 2D. Even better, it's an independent, almost-art-house-cinema, so hopefully there'll be a dearth of texting plebs to infuriate me.

When will 3D finally go away? (Magic eye pictures are a mystery to me also.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 01 June, 2012, 05:26:09 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 01 June, 2012, 05:17:29 PM
I'd have been deeply disappointed if the Dredd logo was just Impact font.
It really almost is though:(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bdBDfu0rNpY/T8jspPkR8oI/AAAAAAAAB94/MqxlnvVYEdk/s1600/dredlog.GIF)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 01 June, 2012, 05:32:05 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-optYnNuRiwI/T8juMs4sidI/AAAAAAAAB-E/DjoaygXlRAo/s1600/logio.jpg")

No?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 01 June, 2012, 05:35:02 PM
At least 'almost' means some design thought has gone into it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 01 June, 2012, 05:37:54 PM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 01 June, 2012, 05:23:50 PM
When will 3D finally go away? (Magic eye pictures are a mystery to me also.)

Soon I hope.
The prices are too high and 3D usually adds nothing to the movie experience for me. However, since DREDD is one of those rare 3D films that was actually filmed in 3D, I might check it out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 01 June, 2012, 06:10:14 PM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 01 June, 2012, 05:23:50 PM
I've never seen a film in 3D either - I only have one focusing eye (the other one does still work, sort of!).

Go to the 3D showing and demand a third off!

It'll be worth it just for the reaction!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 June, 2012, 06:15:40 PM
Ah, I would have loved it if it had been the 70s ragged version.

Seems like it would have been a good fit for the beaten-up retro vibe they're going for.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 01 June, 2012, 06:46:58 PM
I've seen plenty of 3D movies but I have yet to see one that actually benefits from it. Also, the crap 3D glasses that you get with the ticket are shit. You need to buy better ones simply to make the experience bearable.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 01 June, 2012, 07:14:31 PM
still nothing :( check back in next week this is getting depression ! is there even a web site up yet for the film??
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 07:59:50 PM
Prometheus benefits not one jot from 3D, in fact it damages the viewing experience because of the diminished light and lost detail. It also seems Scott made no effort to get anything out of it. No long takes with deep movement or good tracking shots that would make it worthwhile. Don't see why they bothered shooting it in 3D at all.

I'd say Travis & Dod Mantle may make more of an effort and since Dod Mantle doesn't like cluttering his compositions with industrial design objects we may experience some decent staging.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 01 June, 2012, 08:47:04 PM
I must say the few times I caught a monitor it looked very very nice.. But that was squinting through the 3D on the on set monitors.. I didn't bother after a while..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 01 June, 2012, 09:09:05 PM
Quote from: wadew1 on 01 June, 2012, 05:37:54 PM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 01 June, 2012, 05:23:50 PM
When will 3D finally go away? (Magic eye pictures are a mystery to me also.)

Soon I hope.

Don't hold your breaths. It's here to stay this time. I don't mean to be negative but thinking it will go away is wishful thinking. Like it or not, it's more likely that 2D will go the way of monochrome and silent movies. To future generations it will be little more than a quaint, archaic curiosity.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 01 June, 2012, 09:13:24 PM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 01 June, 2012, 05:23:50 PM
Regarding the earlier conversation about 3D (I hate this thread):

I've never seen a film in 3D either - I only have one focusing eye (the other one does still work, sort of!).

I'm overjoyed today that I've just found somewhere within 20 miles of me showing Prometheus in 2D. Even better, it's an independent, almost-art-house-cinema, so hopefully there'll be a dearth of texting plebs to infuriate me.

When will 3D finally go away? (Magic eye pictures are a mystery to me also.)

I'm the same. Never seen a magic eye picture and I can remember watching Tomorrow's World (in early 80s) and the 3d only working cos I wore glasses then. I do again now, due to a failing/aging good eye, but there's just no way I'm putting glasses on top of glasses to watch a gimmick. So for me, no 2d, no sale, will wait for the BR. Shouldn't be a problem mind, plenty cinemas here and only 1 has 3d I think.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 01 June, 2012, 09:14:11 PM
Yeah! Bring back betamax!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 01 June, 2012, 09:17:39 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 01 June, 2012, 09:09:05 PM
Quote from: wadew1 on 01 June, 2012, 05:37:54 PM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 01 June, 2012, 05:23:50 PM
When will 3D finally go away? (Magic eye pictures are a mystery to me also.)

Soon I hope.

Don't hold your breaths. It's here to stay this time. I don't mean to be negative but thinking it will go away is wishful thinking. Like it or not, it's more likely that 2D will go the way of monochrome and silent movies. To future generations it will be little more than a quaint, archaic curiosity.

Seriously? So anyone that needs glasses would be forced to wear a second pair? Exaggeration I suppose as it's only for those with one eye much worse but really? I do think/hope you're wrong.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 09:19:21 PM
2D's not going anywhere, it's still the predominant format.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 01 June, 2012, 09:24:19 PM
Fear not.. It'll be in regular ol' 2D. Effectively it means they only show one channel..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 01 June, 2012, 09:24:58 PM
QuoteDon't hold your breaths. It's here to stay this time. I don't mean to be negative but thinking it will go away is wishful thinking. Like it or not, it's more likely that 2D will go the way of monochrome and silent movies. To future generations it will be little more than a quaint, archaic curiosity.

Nah, can't see that happening any time soon - just look at the current backlash to 3d. The big studios and cinemas know it's running out of steam - and I've heard whispers of a plan to essentially split the difference on cinema admission prices for 3d and non-3d films to try and recoup the cost of upgrading to 3d screens.

I do think 3d has a future, but the tech needs to improve a hell of a lot. When we get to the stage of fully immersive, solid holographic, glasses-free 3d like (tri-d) films and games, sign me up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2012, 09:26:54 PM
Film-makers need to learn how to make films that suit the format before it ever has a chance of staying.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 01 June, 2012, 09:28:31 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 01 June, 2012, 09:14:11 PM
Yeah! Bring back betamax!

Sod betamax, bring back the zoetrope!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 June, 2012, 10:00:48 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 01 June, 2012, 09:14:11 PM
Yeah! Bring back betamax!

Oh gosh, please no, Beta been so nightmare at my work! Even SX!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 01 June, 2012, 10:34:37 PM
99 days untill Dredds out...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 01 June, 2012, 11:14:41 PM
....and still grud all to see about it!  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 01 June, 2012, 11:56:27 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 01 June, 2012, 02:19:14 PM
Just realised though that it is the same font used on that fan poster I posted recently.

No, it isn't.

Bloody hell -- with so many graphic designers on this forum I'm shocked that so few recognise Compacta Bold.

After all, it was only used for the original 2000 AD logo...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 02 June, 2012, 12:25:52 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 01 June, 2012, 11:56:27 PM
Bloody hell -- with so many graphic designers on this forum I'm shocked that so few recognise Compacta Bold.

Bugger.  Got it wrong.

Now I can see it on a proper screen (rather than my phone), the Fugutive Studios image is an altered version of Impact rather than Compacta.  The curves on the 'D' run the whole corner, and the 'E' definitely has the staggered top & middle alignments of Impact rather that the even ones of Compacta.

I'll get m'coat...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 02 June, 2012, 12:35:11 AM
Easy mistake to make in fairness: speshly on a phone.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MPkeKATdui4/T8lRK2w-ZeI/AAAAAAAAB-U/1Hq1tOPVBqc/s1600/logocomp.JPG)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 02 June, 2012, 12:41:01 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 02 June, 2012, 12:35:11 AM
Easy mistake to make in fairness: speshly on a phone.

I'm still dying of bovine spongiform shame... WHY OH WHY NO EDIT FUNCTION???!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 02 June, 2012, 12:43:47 AM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 01 June, 2012, 09:09:05 PM
Don't hold your breaths. It's here to stay this time. I don't mean to be negative but thinking it will go away is wishful thinking. Like it or not, it's more likely that 2D will go the way of monochrome and silent movies. To future generations it will be little more than a quaint, archaic curiosity.

This made me laugh. 3D is, and has always been, a poorly-realised gimmick.

The only time I've thought it actually worked in a meaningful way was Herzog's Cave of Forgotten Dreams or that Pina dancing film. 3D doesn't work for action films - and definitely not action films with the kind of today's preference for hyper-editing - or drama.

Film studios will responsd to the market. And the market is pretty much turning its back on 3D now that the novelty has worn off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 June, 2012, 12:55:13 AM
3D can work for action films if well choreographed scenes are used that utilise moving camerawork more and don't rely on fast editing for impact.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 02 June, 2012, 01:02:52 AM
I do not know...but wouldn`t you hire such a graphic design company to invent your title when you easily can open your local photoshop and just go through some standarts or addons from freefontssomewhereontheinternet.com ... ??? I bet this font got dredd-invented and has a licence now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 02 June, 2012, 01:13:25 AM
Not sure. I probably would've gone with Comic Sans myself, but I'm lazy that way.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 02 June, 2012, 01:26:03 AM
I knew this ComicSan joke would come up. Hell no, please.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 02 June, 2012, 01:45:26 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 June, 2012, 12:55:13 AM
3D can work for action films if well choreographed scenes are used that utilise moving camerawork more and don't rely on fast editing for impact.

Maybe with the higher frame rates than Cameron and Jackson are pushing. It all looks a bit blurry to me, for the most part. Personally I'll be seeing Dredd in 2D only and have absolutely zero interest in seeing it in that other format.

Also: 3D is incredibly annoying for anyone who has to wear glasses already.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 02 June, 2012, 01:55:48 AM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 02 June, 2012, 01:26:03 AM
I knew this ComicSan joke would come up. Hell no, please.

Who's joking? I have an NVQ level 3 in graphic design and I can assure you Comic Sans will make this film box office gold.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 02 June, 2012, 02:27:22 AM
Quote from: Stan on 01 June, 2012, 05:03:01 PM
Yeah, that's what bothers me about the whole 3D thing. Generally speaking. Though, like Radiator I'm a little curious to see why they thought it necessary for Dredd so I don't mind donning the goggles for this one.

Dredd secured it's $45m budget in May 2010, right at the height of the post-Avatar 3-D fad, so I presume it was a prerequisite of it getting financed, which is okay with me, if any comic-book adaptation deserves the 3-D treatment, it's Dredd, the density and detail of the Big Meg always struck me in hindsight as perfect for that format...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 02 June, 2012, 03:19:51 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 02 June, 2012, 02:27:22 AM
if any comic-book adaptation deserves the 3-D treatment, it's Dredd, the density and detail of the Big Meg always struck me in hindsight as perfect for that format...

Surely that'd be Transmetropolitan. He's even got the glasses!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 02 June, 2012, 03:29:06 AM
OK, I know this is a dredd thread, but I am just too used to posting thoughts in here.

My previous post about empire's prometheus rating I retract. It is a god damn awful film!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 02 June, 2012, 06:11:36 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 02 June, 2012, 12:43:47 AMThis made me laugh. 3D is, and has always been, a poorly-realised gimmick.

I've seen good 3D and bad 3D. It depends partly on the movie and partly on where you see it. Some cinemas have not implemented the technology properly. It's entirely possible they've tried to do it 'on the cheap'. When you see 3D in a cinema which has set it up properly it's far from poorly realized. It's extremely good.

As for the other factor - the films - of course there are plenty out there which have made poor use of 3D and so won't come across great no matter how good the cinema. This is a reflection of the fact that 3D is still in its infancy - in other words, the movies will get better naturally as movie makers learn how to make proper use of the format.

I speak as someone who sees several movies a month at the cinema (one which has implemented 3D technology properly) so I constantly have the opportunity to compare the 3D and 2D movie experiences. There are plenty of movies out there where the 3D doesn't add much, if anything to the experience. There are even a few where it detracts from the experience but they are becoming increasingly uncommon. For those movies where it enhances the experience, it can do so a great deal. As people learn how to make use of the medium, the last category can only become more common.

Yes, there is currently a backlash against these factors. Some movie makers will balk at this and bug out of the 3D scene. But I don't believe the industry as a whole will react that way. The industry as a whole will react by addressing these teething problems. It won't happen overnight, but you can bet plans are already being laid in certain quarters.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 02 June, 2012, 07:12:40 AM
I plan on watching 2d first. If it is a good film my second viewing will be 3d.

I wear glasses, the 3d glasses are never an issue, they suit fine. But while impressed by there clarity of modern 3d I don't think itadds as much to the film as it detracts.

This is why first showing I see will be 2d.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: KingMonkeysUnkle on 02 June, 2012, 10:02:08 AM
Something doesn't work for me with 3D movies.
I dunno what it is but I have no interest in seeing them at all.
Maybe it's a distant, thus far locked away memory of the 3D movies of my youth, complete with dual coloured paper glasses and accompanying migraine. Either way, it'll be 2D for me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 02 June, 2012, 10:23:20 AM
I've never quite dared see a film in 3D.  My depth perception is crap - my glasses do correct it, but I still can't work Magic Eye pictures and I have had headaches from other types of 3D effect before.  For all I know, I might be fine with a 3D film, but it's a hefty ticket price to pay on a gamble over whether I'm going to have to duck out with a brain-splitting migraine.  My experiments with squinting at a demo model 3D TV in my local supermarket have not left me encouraged.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Toni Scandella on 02 June, 2012, 10:24:13 AM
The last film I saw in 3D was Jaws 3D.  I wear glasses and tend to favour one eye, and have never been able to see 3D films (or images) that use the two different colour lenses - but Jaws 3D had non-coloured lenses and still the only 3D part that worked for me was when there was a scene with a dolphin or something jumping out of a pool - the water splashes when it landed did seem to come out at me.  That is the _only_ time I can remember any 3D effect ever working for me with my lazy eyes.

I tried watching a demo of a football match on a 3D TV in a shopping centre in 3D recently, and it did not work.  I was also a bit disoriented and had a bit of a headache after taking off the specs.  All of this stuff gives me a natural aversion to 3D - it could be the best thing ever for all I know but I don't want to see Dredd in 3D (at least not the first time) in case the whole thing is spoiled and is just a massive headache.

So I will serch for a normal 2D screening.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 02 June, 2012, 10:48:46 AM
I wear glasses.. When I go see a 3D movie I wear contacts..

As for the red and blue (anaglyph). I've got 3D software that is 3D capable, and I got a 3D monitor to go with it. It's passive, so I can use the same glasses as you do at the pictures.. I got the monitor because the anaglyph was very very hard on the eyes. The passive glasses just make me look too cool to be in the art department.. Though it did come with a pair of nice, grounding, flip up clip ons..

When 3D at the nice, cheap, 24fps starts moving quick, it strobes, which annoys the bejesus out of me. The frame rate can also screw up your ability to focus because of said strobing. 24fps has been the norm since the beginning of time when producers were looking to spend the least money on film stock.. As soon as they start screening 3D movies in higher frame rates, a lot of the woes will disappear.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 02 June, 2012, 11:01:14 AM
Woes for you will disappear maybe, but 3D at 48fps is quadrupling the amount of rendering for CGI artists.

Still undecided on the 48fps issue, I'll be curious to see how the Hobbit looks and if I can shake the daytime soap or sports feel that frame rates like that give me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 02 June, 2012, 11:45:38 AM

bovine spongiform shame...
[/quote]
:)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 02 June, 2012, 12:27:01 PM
I think the problem with 3d is that is it is a gimmick, but it probably won't go away because they can charge extra for the glasses, and if cinema's only screen 3d versions of the film, then you have no choice but to pay more.

I really hope it does go away though, the only way 3d is effective is when something sharp is being fired at the screen, then you flinch. But to have a whole movie of things being fired directly at the screen I don't think would be very good. But who knows, as I haven't seen one yet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 02 June, 2012, 01:55:42 PM
3D is no good. I saw Avatar a few times, in different theatres. As Joe Soap pointed out, it was dark. I think the images are dulled by the eye overlaying those images. Where I live all the 3D films are dubbed and un-dubbed films are never shown in 3D (so far). No skin off my nose, I don't like it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 02 June, 2012, 02:51:19 PM
I love 3D. I find it very immersive. I always have loved it, ever since that Terrahwks 3D green/red photo in Look-In all those years ago.  I was hooked, and have 3D things covering my house: the Tomytronic 3D binoc games, those green holograms, 3D lenticular bookmarks and posters, a Nintendo 3DS, and my absolute pride and joy, a computer and monitor capable of running nVidia 3D Vision, with active shutter glasses (has to be seen to be believed).

So yeah, I'm an advocate of 3D, and I am VERY glad Dredd has been filmed in 3D, rather than having it tacked on rather shoddily at a later date (The Last Airbender, I'm looking at you).

I will be seeing it in 3D, preferably in one of the biggest IMaX's I can find.  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 02 June, 2012, 03:45:43 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 02 June, 2012, 12:27:01 PM
I really hope it does go away though, the only way 3d is effective is when something sharp is being fired at the screen, then you flinch.

Which ironically happened in Jaws 3D. The first, and probably last, moment I had a positive experience with the format.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 02 June, 2012, 03:47:19 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 02 June, 2012, 02:51:19 PM
I will be seeing it in 3D, preferably in one of the biggest IMaX's I can find.  :D

Would it not just be easier to sit very close to the screen?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 02 June, 2012, 04:55:13 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 02 June, 2012, 02:51:19 PM
I love 3D. I find it very immersive. I always have loved it, ever since that Terrahwks 3D green/red photo in Look-In all those years ago.  I was hooked, and have 3D things covering my house: the Tomytronic 3D binoc games, those green holograms, 3D lenticular bookmarks and posters, a Nintendo 3DS, and my absolute pride and joy, a computer and monitor capable of running nVidia 3D Vision, with active shutter glasses (has to be seen to be believed).

I mean in recent films - I was just not impressed by 3D in Avatar, I saw it in Imax in Paris and I found it soon wore off and was too dark...and I don't like the glasses. But as tech it's fascinating, I've even made a few of my own 3D pictures over the years. I also have a cool wee 3D planet earth postcard above my desk...that nVidia 3D Vision sounds very cool by the way. I also saw it in Disneyland years ago (CAptain Eo...with Jacko) and that I remember being pretty astounding. But the recent Toy Story film seemed undermined by it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 02 June, 2012, 05:16:55 PM
I reckon the only reason 3D isn't impressing a lot of people is because, as said before, it's not being used properly. For me, the 3D in Avatar really helped immerse me. I don't want gimmicky poke-in-the-eye stuff happening all the time, because it's cheap. I want to feel the depth of the world I'm in.

It's like the early days of CGI. All of a sudden CGI was the end-all and be-all visual effect solution. That led to volumes of proper shit looking creatures, bad composites and overall shabby looking movies because everyone was clambering over themselves to get their latest masterpiece out.. as soon as everyone calms down, film makers will appear that'll know how to use 3D to their advantage..

As for upping the framerate having an effect on the VFX.. Well, within the span of 2 years my desktop 8 core mac pro has been surpassed by my macbook pro. Rendering is handled by render farms that're being equipped with better and better stuff. I don't see the higher framerate being that big an issue for VFX. For the first few movies it'll be marginally more expensive, but in a few years time 48fps will be the norm.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 June, 2012, 05:43:00 PM
QuoteI reckon the only reason 3D isn't impressing a lot of people is because, as said before, it's not being used properly.

No, it's because it generally looks like a blurry, dingy, ghosting, strobing mess whenever the camera moves at anything quicker than a gentle pan. The cons far outweigh the pros.

Upping the fps might help with the strobing, but it also has the side-effect of making everything look like a weird soap opera.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 02 June, 2012, 05:48:32 PM
I dunno.. the FPS will definitely help with the blurry/strobeyness.. I hooked up a 3D monitor to my PS3 and it was the smoothest 3D I've ever seen, at 60hz.

It's a new technology (3D's a forgotten technology) that needs to find it's feet.. By the way, have you actually seen the 48fps Hobbit trailer? I haven't. I've just read about it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 02 June, 2012, 05:52:56 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 02 June, 2012, 05:16:55 PM
I reckon the only reason 3D isn't impressing a lot of people is because, as said before, it's not being used properly. For me, the 3D in Avatar really helped immerse me. I don't want gimmicky poke-in-the-eye stuff happening all the time, because it's cheap. I want to feel the depth of the world I'm in.

It's like the early days of CGI. All of a sudden CGI was the end-all and be-all visual effect solution. That led to volumes of proper shit looking creatures, bad composites and overall shabby looking movies because everyone was clambering over themselves to get their latest masterpiece out.. as soon as everyone calms down, film makers will appear that'll know how to use 3D to their advantage..

As for upping the framerate having an effect on the VFX.. Well, within the span of 2 years my desktop 8 core mac pro has been surpassed by my macbook pro. Rendering is handled by render farms that're being equipped with better and better stuff. I don't see the higher framerate being that big an issue for VFX. For the first few movies it'll be marginally more expensive, but in a few years time 48fps will be the norm.

And it would be nice to grab some breath and not be running to stand still.

I just seem to hear a lot about VFX studios bankrupted by greedy producers, or insane deadlines, or wanting students to pay to be interns (Digital Domain I'm looking at you)

Yes, computers will get quicker, but with the economy in the shitter, it seems like the last thing anyone needs - and it doesn't address the soap opera argument against 48 or 60fps.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 02 June, 2012, 05:57:17 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 02 June, 2012, 05:48:32 PM
I dunno.. the FPS will definitely help with the blurry/strobeyness.. I hooked up a 3D monitor to my PS3 and it was the smoothest 3D I've ever seen, at 60hz.

It's a new technology (3D's a forgotten technology) that needs to find it's feet.. By the way, have you actually seen the 48fps Hobbit trailer? I haven't. I've just read about it.

Not seen the Hobbit but I know what 720P@50fps looks like natively, I really don't imagine it's going to look much different movement-wise. Double 24 or 25fps is always going to have that feel of interlaced studio cameras for me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 June, 2012, 05:58:01 PM
Judging by the nea universal total shock registered due to the 'soap opera effect' at the Hobbit demo, 48fps is all ready on shaky ground before it even hits the theatre. I'd say the execs are nervous.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 02 June, 2012, 06:04:32 PM
I'll happily watch 2D in 24fps.. 3D i'll be wanting 48.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 02 June, 2012, 07:25:51 PM
What do people mean by soap opera effect?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 June, 2012, 07:28:05 PM
Quote from: Stan on 02 June, 2012, 07:25:51 PM
What do people mean by soap opera effect?

Looks similar to a flat 'interlaced' video image like Eastenders rather than a 24/25fps 'progressive' film-look.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 June, 2012, 08:01:04 PM
Film has traditionally been shot at 24 frames giving it a slightly flickery, strobing quality. It's so strongly associated with cinema that it's just accepted as the norm.

Footage that has a higher frame rate, in the context of a film, gives it an eeriely smooth feel - almost as if you are watching it at 1.5x speed - giving it an aesthetic as if it was shot on video, like a soap opera or studio sitcom. It makes special effects look really fake for some reason, and while many don't notice it, some find it very jarring and off-putting.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 02 June, 2012, 08:02:59 PM
Easiest comparison is 70s and 80s BBC shows like Monty Python/Who/Dads Army compare the difference between the film used for exteriors and the videotape used for studio shots.

Around 2000 there was a phase where shows acquired on tape (but shot interlaced) was 'filmised' to make it more filmy. League of Gentlemen DVDs have clips before it was done.

That in itself was contentious on some shows, even more so in that it reduced the resolution to get the effect.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 June, 2012, 08:12:45 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 02 June, 2012, 08:02:59 PM
Easiest comparison is 70s and 80s BBC shows like Monty Python/Who/Dads Army compare the difference between the film used for exteriors and the videotape used for studio shots.


Didn't Monthy Python do a sketch on it where the characters within realise they look different when shot on film or video?


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 02 June, 2012, 08:14:15 PM
I think I have an idea of what you mean but I'll check it out later when my internet is non-crap.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 02 June, 2012, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 June, 2012, 08:12:45 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 02 June, 2012, 08:02:59 PM
Easiest comparison is 70s and 80s BBC shows like Monty Python/Who/Dads Army compare the difference between the film used for exteriors and the videotape used for studio shots.


Didn't Monthy Python do a sketch on it where the characters within realise they look different when shot on film or video?

Yep.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 02 June, 2012, 08:44:49 PM
Like when on an 80's sitcom it always looked different when they were outside as opposed to when they were shooting in the studio?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 June, 2012, 08:45:31 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 02 June, 2012, 08:44:49 PM
Like when on an 80's sitcom it always looked different when they were outside as opposed to when they were shooting in the studio?


Yes, or when you watched Dallas as opposed to Emmerdale farm.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 02 June, 2012, 08:51:55 PM
Ahh,don't know how I feel about that,it will be a suck it and see I think.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 June, 2012, 09:02:57 PM
The difference isn't quite as pronounced - go into your local dixons and look at the display tvs. They always have that motion interpolation feature turned on to the max. It's designed to give the impression of a smooth frame rate. I find it unwatchable.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 June, 2012, 09:14:23 PM
It is more pronounced when it's 48fps and 60fps.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 02 June, 2012, 09:23:58 PM
Just popped in to see if there's any news.

Found long dissertations about the merits of 3D and other film techniques.

No news then.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goosegash on 02 June, 2012, 09:34:24 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 02 June, 2012, 08:44:49 PM
Like when on an 80's sitcom it always looked different when they were outside as opposed to when they were shooting in the studio?

A good example of the difference between shooting on film and videotape is mid-eighties Dr Who - beginning with Colin Baker's second season, the series switched from shooting all exteriors on film to filming everything on tape to save money. The knock-on effect was the show suddenly looked much cheaper than it had a year before.

I think film is still used for some US shows, but almost never in British TV since the advent of digital cameras, as it's more cost effective to shoot everything on digicam and create the "film effect" in post production.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 June, 2012, 09:38:00 PM
The film effect doesn't need to be created in post-production when shooting digitally. If digital is shot progressive, the motion-blur and shutter effect of film is replicated to a large extent. The rest is to to with adding grain if wanted and colour balance.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 02 June, 2012, 09:45:19 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 02 June, 2012, 09:23:58 PM
Just popped in to see if there's any news.

Found long dissertations about the merits of 3D and other film techniques.

No news then.

My good lady just asked me what I was upto, and I could basically just quote you Lee. :)
But after the latest from Wagner, Drokk being released and the immenent trailer (when oh when?)
I seem to be glued to this forum which is really whetting the appetite for September.
Anyone been sketching Dredd in his new 'film outfit'? It's something I'm quite tempted to do pretty soon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 02 June, 2012, 10:02:52 PM
Yeah,but mine was a bit naff
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 02 June, 2012, 10:39:33 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 02 June, 2012, 09:23:58 PM
Just popped in to see if there's any news.

Found long dissertations about the merits of 3D and other film techniques.

No news then.

A man was reportedly seen with a sandwichboard walking up Londons Basingstoke Road at 8.32pm.Whether this has anything to do with the Dredd movie is unknown, and speculation that it is connected remain,well, at this time, speculative. :|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 02 June, 2012, 10:40:22 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 02 June, 2012, 12:35:11 AM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MPkeKATdui4/T8lRK2w-ZeI/AAAAAAAAB-U/1Hq1tOPVBqc/s1600/logocomp.JPG)

I hate to say I told you so but I did this a while ago-homage to Fargo(the movie).

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/jameskircough/DreddFargo.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 02 June, 2012, 11:02:05 PM
Quote from: radiator on 02 June, 2012, 05:43:00 PM
QuoteI reckon the only reason 3D isn't impressing a lot of people is because, as said before, it's not being used properly.

No, it's because it generally looks like a blurry, dingy, ghosting, strobing mess whenever the camera moves at anything quicker than a gentle pan. The cons far outweigh the pros.

Exactly. It's patronising to assume that my or anyone elses reasons for not liking 3D is because the cinema isn't set up properly as well. I've seen a few films in 3D (and I go to a couple every month as well) and - other than Cave of Forgotten Dreams and Pina (maybe Avatar because it was so new) - there has never been a narrative reason for the use of 3D.

This is NOT like the introduction of colour or sound. Both those things came about as advances in technology and because they added to the narrative. 3D has been around since the 50s (admittedly in a much less refined way) but it has never really contributed anything to the narrative of a film other than spectacle. And spectacle is fine for something like Avatar but for the most part, it's a gimmick.

If improved, I can see 3D being used for big blockbuster films but the norm is always going to be 2D. I actually don't think cinemas will survive if they try to transition everything to 3D. Do you really think films like The King's Speech or There Will Be Blood need to be in 3D? Come on.

And from latest reports, people aren't just avoiding 3D, they're bloody well resenting it because of the price increase. I'm sure there will be some filmmakers who will made decent 3D films that could only be done in 3D but, from what I can see, they'll be novelties rather than the norm. 3D is maybe more comparable to the likes of IMAX than anything else.

As for the framerate debate, I do find the 48fps makes everything look like it's been speeded up. It'll be interesting to see how The Hobbit looks in the cinema. It probably will take your eyes a little while to get used to it which may be a hindrance to actually enjoying the film!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 02 June, 2012, 11:04:12 PM
Quote from: James on 02 June, 2012, 10:40:22 PM

I hate to say I told you so but I did this a while ago-homage to Fargo(the movie).

That is rather cool indeed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 02 June, 2012, 11:21:23 PM
Quote from: radiator on 02 June, 2012, 09:02:57 PM
The difference isn't quite as pronounced - go into your local dixons and look at the display tvs. They always have that motion interpolation feature turned on to the max. It's designed to give the impression of a smooth frame rate. I find it unwatchable.

I always think flat screen TVs look horrible in the shop compared to my old and trusty CRT. Maybe that's partly the reason.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 June, 2012, 11:25:51 PM
You'd have to manually turn on the interpolation to see it. CRT were better quality though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 June, 2012, 01:07:55 AM
The official Dredd Facebook page has updated the plot outline of the movie. No new info, and It's a bit spoilery so I won't copy and paste it here, but head to Facebook if you want to check it out yourself.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Radbacker on 03 June, 2012, 04:13:18 AM
a 50" CRT Tv would probably weigh as much as my car though and have pixels the size of my nads, unfortunatly we are stuck with LCD/Plasma for a while yet.
So any more news on this Dredd movie I've been hearing about?

CU Radbacker
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 03 June, 2012, 04:19:13 AM
Quote from: Stan on 02 June, 2012, 11:21:23 PM
I always think flat screen TVs look horrible in the shop compared to my old and trusty CRT. Maybe that's partly the reason.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 June, 2012, 11:25:51 PM
You'd have to manually turn on the interpolation to see it. CRT were better quality though.

Amen to both, having just bought an LED television after the old Panasonic CRT was about to give up the ghost, I can verifiably state that CRT had an infinitely superior picture, for all the hype, I'm not impressed with LED technology, not one bit, can you not buy CRT sets anymore?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 03 June, 2012, 04:42:48 AM
I just upgraded to an LCD from a CRT and the picture the Sony CRT still has is pretty sweet even now.
Just to think in a few years what the definition would be with a little graphene around the home :)

Graphene Applications (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EaaZcAYRFo&feature=related)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 June, 2012, 08:16:11 AM
And in off-topic subject, the Dredd film is out in three months :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 03 June, 2012, 08:42:11 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 June, 2012, 08:12:45 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 02 June, 2012, 08:02:59 PM
Didn't Monthy Python do a sketch on it where the characters within realise they look different when shot on film or video?

If they didn't, they should have. I don't recall that but it's right up their street. Perhaps in series 3 somewhere.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 03 June, 2012, 08:43:08 AM
BTW - 220 pages a record for a thread here?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 June, 2012, 09:11:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsoScA4_wWA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsoScA4_wWA)

About 6 mins in.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 03 June, 2012, 11:00:25 AM
this is the depths we have been pushed too the waiting is killing me we need a teaser trailer more pics some thing :'( :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 June, 2012, 11:15:40 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 03 June, 2012, 09:11:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsoScA4_wWA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsoScA4_wWA)

About 6 mins in.

Classic, thanks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 June, 2012, 11:19:50 AM
Quote from: radiator on 03 June, 2012, 01:07:55 AM
The official Dredd Facebook page has updated the plot outline of the movie. No new info, and It's a bit spoilery so I won't copy and paste it here, but head to Facebook if you want to check it out yourself.

With tags:

[spoiler]The future America is an irradiated waste land. On its East Coast, running from Boston to Washington DC, lies Mega City One- a vast, violent metropolis where criminals rule the chaotic streets. The only force of order lies with the urban cops called "Judges" who possess the combined powers of judge, jury and instant executioner. Known and feared throughout the city, Dredd (Karl Urban) is the ultimate Judge, challenged with ridding the city of its latest scourge – a dangerous drug epidemic that has users of "Slo-Mo" experiencing reality at a fraction of its normal speed.

During a routine day on the job, Dredd is assigned to train and evaluate Cassandra Anderson (Olivia Thirlby), a rookie with powerful psychic abilities thanks to a genetic mutation. A heinous crime calls them to a neighborhood where fellow Judges rarely dare to venture- a 200 story vertical slum controlled by prostitute turned drug lord Ma-Ma (Lena Headey) and her ruthless clan. When they capture one of the clan's inner circle, Ma-Ma overtakes the compound's control center and wages a dirty, vicious war against the Judges that proves she will stop at nothing to protect her empire. With the body count climbing and no way out, Dredd and Anderson must confront the odds and engage in the relentless battle for their survival.

The endlessly inventive mind of writer Alex Garland and director Pete Travis bring DREDD to life as a futuristic neo-noir action film. Filmed in 3D with stunning slow motion photography sequences, the film returns the celebrated character to the dark, visceral incarnation from John Wagner and Carlos Ezquerra's revered comic strip.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 June, 2012, 11:22:24 AM
Would it not be better to have a HIGH IMPACT promotional advertising campaign! We know the budget is small compared to the beasts of established franchises, so it has to work much harder for the general public to keep it on their radar.

I believe this is where the forum can help to some degree by pushing it on all the sites that we visit, rather than just sitting back and hoping that everyone sees the campaign (look at how many people still didn't know terrestrial tv was closing down and that campaign was quite large).

Going back to the promotional push itself I'm looking forward to seeing how the film is marketed, as I believe that due to the actual marketing budget it will be extremely well thought out and aimed squarely at the designated demographic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 June, 2012, 11:32:42 AM
That would be fine when they have a bit more to back it up, like a logo on their fb site, a poster, and a trailer...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 03 June, 2012, 12:27:24 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 03 June, 2012, 11:15:40 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 03 June, 2012, 09:11:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsoScA4_wWA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsoScA4_wWA)

About 6 mins in.

Classic, thanks.

What am I missing? No Dredd references at all... though it is all in 2D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 03 June, 2012, 12:32:31 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 03 June, 2012, 09:11:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsoScA4_wWA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsoScA4_wWA)

About 6 mins in.

Brilliant...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 June, 2012, 12:49:58 PM
Quote from: Dark Bat King on 03 June, 2012, 12:27:24 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 03 June, 2012, 11:15:40 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 03 June, 2012, 09:11:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsoScA4_wWA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsoScA4_wWA)

About 6 mins in.

Classic, thanks.

What am I missing? No Dredd references at all... though it is all in 2D

Some were asking about the difference between film and video off the back of the 3D/48fps argument.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 03 June, 2012, 12:58:57 PM
Such a long thread, but I don't recall the blood spattered shield before...I'm sure we've seen this.
http://www.filmdates.co.uk/films/2146-dredd/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 June, 2012, 01:03:49 PM
That's old - it turned up around the same time as an industry festival - no-one seems to know where it came from, as it's not very pro looking.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 03 June, 2012, 01:22:14 PM
Pretty cool synopsis, maybe a bit too long though?

(Regarding fb page update)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 03 June, 2012, 01:26:58 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 June, 2012, 11:22:24 AM
Would it not be better to have a HIGH IMPACT promotional advertising campaign! We know the budget is small compared to the beasts of established franchises, so it has to work much harder for the general public to keep it on their radar.

I believe this is where the forum can help to some degree by pushing it on all the sites that we visit, rather than just sitting back and hoping that everyone sees the campaign (look at how many people still didn't know terrestrial tv was closing down and that campaign was quite large).



Already on the case!  I've been posting like crazy on Facebook, and other forums I visit.  I've been discussing it at some length with film loving friends and colleagues.  I also have been raising awareness of Wagners opinions etc with other 2000AD readers who don't visit this forum.  I'm a one-man hype machine!   :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 June, 2012, 01:34:34 PM
I'm sure you'll all be vocal when you're going through the 5 stages or grief when the film tanks in expectations.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 03 June, 2012, 01:41:04 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 03 June, 2012, 01:34:34 PM
I'm sure you'll all be vocal when you're going through the 5 stages or grief when the film tanks in expectations.

Come on you dont really think that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 June, 2012, 01:43:48 PM
For a certian portion, yes I do, you can't plese everyone.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 June, 2012, 01:51:00 PM
Thanks Mr Soap for to put spoiler over the plot from Facebook as I don't read the script, and don't wish to see any spoilers... three months to go till 7th Sept, cant wait :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 03 June, 2012, 11:45:04 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 03 June, 2012, 01:34:34 PM
I'm sure you'll all be vocal when you're going through the 5 stages or grief when the film tanks in expectations.
Well look, I think most of us have expectations set at a half-way reasonable level: a lot of us know the story from the script, and even those that don't will hardly be expecting a sweeping epic. We know the budget is tight and we've already seen some less-than-stellar vehicles and art-design, and we've heard Wagner's quibbles and tweeted comments about the same.

I'd say all it has to do, ( to impress and delight me anyway), is to improve upon the Stallone film and share a little of the character we know as with the rest of the world.
I don't think these expectations are unrealistic, and if they are met then there will be no grief, not frothis quarter anyway,- and if exceeded? Why then we SHALL have a Christmas!

Incidentally, on the subject of grief, I thought I'd ask which would be more upsetting for folk on the board here:

A: A piss-poor Dredd film that was nonetheless popular and would spawn sequels/toys/animated series e.t.c
or
B: An excellent Dredd film that nobody went to see ?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 03 June, 2012, 11:50:16 PM
character we know as with the rest of the world
...character we know as Dreddwith the rest of the world...
no grief, not frothis quarter anyway
...no grief, not from this quarter anyway...

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 03 June, 2012, 11:50:36 PM
All of this kind of reminds me of Punisher: War Zone.

Not a great film to say the least, but it is the best Punisher film made so far.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 03 June, 2012, 11:58:10 PM
"GadDAMNIT CASTLE!"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 04 June, 2012, 12:17:43 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 03 June, 2012, 11:45:04 PM
I'd say all it has to do, ( to impress and delight me anyway), is to improve upon the Stallone film and share a little of the character we know as with the rest of the world.
I don't think these expectations are unrealistic, and if they are met then there will be no grief, not frothis quarter anyway,- and if exceeded? Why then we SHALL have a Christmas!

That's really all I'm hoping for. It should keep the fanboy tears to a minimum.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 June, 2012, 12:49:14 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 03 June, 2012, 11:45:04 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 03 June, 2012, 01:34:34 PM
I'm sure you'll all be vocal when you're going through the 5 stages or grief when the film tanks in expectations.
Well look, I think most of us have expectations set at a half-way reasonable level: a lot of us know the story from the script, and even those that don't will hardly be expecting a sweeping epic. We know the budget is tight and we've already seen some less-than-stellar vehicles and art-design, and we've heard Wagner's quibbles and tweeted comments about the same.

I'd say all it has to do, ( to impress and delight me anyway), is to improve upon the Stallone film and share a little of the character we know as with the rest of the world.
I don't think these expectations are unrealistic, and if they are met then there will be no grief, not frothis quarter anyway,- and if exceeded? Why then we SHALL have a Christmas!

Incidentally, on the subject of grief, I thought I'd ask which would be more upsetting for folk on the board here:

A: A piss-poor Dredd film that was nonetheless popular and would spawn sequels/toys/animated series e.t.c
or
B: An excellent Dredd film that nobody went to see ?


I'd say I have few if any real hang-ups with the aspects of Dredd adapted and distilled for the film than most experienced Dredd-fans. My expectations are fairly level-headed and I'm not pessimistic in that regard but some will rail against, that's their thing and it's fine, within reason.

Tangentially speaking, it just needs to be a better film than Prometheus -which despite its ridiculousness is still better than Stallone '95- and I now believe it actually has a decent chance of achieving that considering Scott filmed a 2 hour film synopsis.


If I simply had to choose either A or B, I'd choose B, but I don't believe this Dredd is either of those absolutes but a little inbetween and to the left.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 04 June, 2012, 01:37:24 AM
I really liked the script, so I think I have expectations about right. It will be easier to tell when we actually get to see a trailer and see Karl Urban properly.

I have high hopes based on the images, as I have said a few times, I really like the kind of mad max kind of future with shit cars and such. Though I can see how this won't appeal to everyone.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 04 June, 2012, 01:48:29 AM
I don't see the problem with the cars. I've just looked through the first Case Files and in the third story there are loads of normal trucks. In the story where Dredd takes his helmet off there is an antique Morris Minor driving about. In fact over the next few stories we see even more trucks and normal cars on the streets of the city!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 04 June, 2012, 02:31:42 AM
I think something they cool they could do with this, is with sequels (hopefully) have Mega City evolve in real time, kind of like the comics each year is a year dredd;s world as well. So if they leave it a couple of years, things could look a little more futuristic, and also hopefully the budget will be bigger, so by Dredd part XII Mega City One will be at the grand scale of the comics.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 04 June, 2012, 03:27:48 AM
As been said before little by little, just the facts first. Nail the character, the environment, the system then add the extras.

Its all about the character first and foremost.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 04 June, 2012, 07:14:19 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 04 June, 2012, 03:27:48 AM
As been said before little by little, just the facts first. Nail the character, the environment, the system then add the extras.

Its all about the character first and foremost.

Exactly. All the background stuff is just window dressing. Get the character right and you've got yourself a movie!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 04 June, 2012, 08:11:10 AM
If it sits somewhere along my cheesy B movie shelf besides Pitch Black,Underworld/s,Outlander,Red,Centurion and Dog Soldiers without embarrassing its self then I'll be more than happy.
Not expecting the next Starwars,Bladerunner,Inception or Pulp Fiction,just a cool  little 3 star film that will automatically get and extra star from me because its fucking Dredd.
Not too much to hope for is it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 04 June, 2012, 08:18:21 AM
A film about Judge Dredd with a Wagner stamp of approval.
For a Dredd fan what more could you ask for.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 04 June, 2012, 08:22:34 AM
I'll still reserve judgement,been burned before by a creators 'stamp of approval' :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 04 June, 2012, 08:57:54 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 04 June, 2012, 08:11:10 AM
If it sits somewhere along my cheesy B movie shelf besides Pitch Black,Underworld/s,Outlander,Red,Centurion and Dog Soldiers without embarrassing its self then I'll be more than happy.
Not expecting the next Starwars,Bladerunner,Inception or Pulp Fiction,just a cool  little 3 star film that will automatically get and extra star from me because its fucking Dredd.
Not too much to hope for is it?

I think you're pretty much on the money there..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 04 June, 2012, 09:04:03 AM
Sounds good to me.

My expectations for films have been set on low for the past decade anyway. I'd much rather be pleasantly surprised than disappointed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 04 June, 2012, 09:08:47 AM
If Dredd even comes close to being a film as enjoyable as Dog Soldiers, I'll be extremely happy.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 04 June, 2012, 09:18:22 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 04 June, 2012, 03:27:48 AM
As been said before little by little, just the facts first. Nail the character, the environment, the system then add the extras.

Its all about the character first and foremost.

^This.

Hell, I was happy with the xmas greeting Karl sent us. It's going to have to be a real stinker to disappoint me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 04 June, 2012, 09:19:02 AM
Birthday! Birthday dammit. I also hate the lack of edit function...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 04 June, 2012, 11:02:31 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 04 June, 2012, 09:04:03 AM
Sounds good to me.

My expectations for films have been set on low for the past decade anyway. I'd much rather be pleasantly surprised than disappointed.
Me too ,I got that on Friday when I watched Haywire,thought it looked a bit naff from what I'd seen but was quietly blown away,top film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 04 June, 2012, 11:38:07 AM
Well, personally I hope it's a damn sight better than that two-bit, piece of crap Underworld.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: norse_sage on 04 June, 2012, 11:41:37 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 03 June, 2012, 11:45:04 PM
I thought I'd ask which would be more upsetting for folk on the board here:

A: A piss-poor Dredd film that was nonetheless popular and would spawn sequels/toys/animated series e.t.c
or
B: An excellent Dredd film that nobody went to see ?

B! B!! B all the way!!!

Option B gives us a fans a movie we can enjoy, and something that will give a trickle of new fans for the indefinate future, certainly won't do any harm to the brand in the long run. Not so with A, which I consider the second worst that can happen.

If a movie is a crap adaptation but still somehow a great standalone movie that general audiences take a liking to, there is a very good chance that the powers that be will make future adaptations and incarnations of said property more like the successful movie adaptation and less like the original source material.

That's what happened with Robert E. Howard's Conan.
John Milius wrote a viking samurai movie which was dumbed down and whitewashed compared to the original yearns, featured the opposite themes and philosophy , and a Conan who was quite literally the polar opposite of the original literary Conan in every single way that mattered. Then he topped it off by casting Arnold Schwarzenegger as Conan, who was ten times as miscast in that role as Stallone was as Dredd.
That movie is deep, deep insult to the literary Conan, and it is deeply hated by a very large chunck of the Conan proper fans.

Sadly, for all its weakness as an adaptation, it worked as a standalone movie, and was loved by the public. As such, Milius and Ahnuld usurped the name of Conan, and every single Conan cartoon, film and comic (with the exception of the current Dark Horse comic) has owed more to the Milius film than the original Conan, and as such been total crap.

For Dredd, and every other cult thing I like, I'll take option B over A anyday.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 04 June, 2012, 11:55:26 AM
Quote from: radiator on 04 June, 2012, 11:38:07 AM
Well, personally I hope it's a damn sight better than that two-bit, piece of crap Underworld.
Kate Beckinsale in very tight leather and lots of werewolves! I've heard rumors they have a plot but I usually don't get any further than staring at her arse,guilty B movie cheese,love it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 04 June, 2012, 12:13:15 PM
Don't want any moans, but for your info as there trailer out now for House At The End Of The Street, which is out on 21st Sept in USA same as Dredd.

So Dredd Trailer will be soon, :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 04 June, 2012, 12:14:48 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 04 June, 2012, 11:55:26 AM
Quote from: radiator on 04 June, 2012, 11:38:07 AM
Well, personally I hope it's a damn sight better than that two-bit, piece of crap Underworld.
Kate Beckinsale in very tight leather and lots of werewolves! I've heard rumors they have a plot but I usually don't get any further than staring at her arse,guilty B movie cheese,love it.

It has a plot ? ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 04 June, 2012, 12:20:47 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 04 June, 2012, 12:13:15 PM
Don't want any moans, but for your info as there trailer out now for House At The End Of The Street, which is out on 21st Sept in USA same as Dredd.

So Dredd Trailer will be soon, :)

Actually that's the SECOND trailer for House At The End Of The Street!
The first trailer came out in March.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 04 June, 2012, 12:26:05 PM
Lets get back to talking about Kate's assets  :o.... As this trailers never going to appear!  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 04 June, 2012, 12:30:22 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 04 June, 2012, 12:26:05 PM
Lets get back to talking about Kate's assets ....
Nice tissets, too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 04 June, 2012, 12:37:06 PM
I found her nuanced performance in the Esquire shoot video* to me almost life changing.









* cough youtube cough  *







Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: malkymac on 04 June, 2012, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 04 June, 2012, 08:11:10 AM
If it sits somewhere along my cheesy B movie shelf besides Pitch Black,Underworld/s,Outlander,Red,Centurion and Dog Soldiers without embarrassing its self then I'll be more than happy.
Not expecting the next Starwars,Bladerunner,Inception or Pulp Fiction,just a cool  little 3 star film that will automatically get and extra star from me because its fucking Dredd.
Not too much to hope for is it?

I throughly enjoyed all those movies and you could also add 'Doomsday' to that list (which had a budget of $30M but still managed to do great things with it).

Actually chuck in 28 weeks later as well for good measure.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 04 June, 2012, 01:11:37 PM
The Mist is my favorite surprise hit in recent years. It cost $18M. If Dredd does that good, I'll be very, very happy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 04 June, 2012, 01:12:52 PM
I thought that film was rubbish!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 04 June, 2012, 01:20:21 PM
Your opinion is rubbish.  :lol:

Seriously, you don't like Darabont or was it something else? The nutty christian lady and the ending did it for me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 04 June, 2012, 01:30:49 PM
The ending I really liked, the rest not so much.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zanti Misfit on 04 June, 2012, 01:57:59 PM
The Mist: Quite impressed with the bleak/grim tone, and the Lovecraftian beasties at the end, but the God-bothering stereotype got on my wick, and there were too many spiders (hate 'em!) so I gave the DVD away.

How about Mutant Chronicles [/i] - mad, mad flick - estimated budget of £25,000,000?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 04 June, 2012, 02:07:24 PM
Solomon Kane was another doozy,40mil budget.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 04 June, 2012, 03:16:01 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 04 June, 2012, 11:02:31 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 04 June, 2012, 09:04:03 AM
Sounds good to me.

My expectations for films have been set on low for the past decade anyway. I'd much rather be pleasantly surprised than disappointed.
Me too ,I got that on Friday when I watched Haywire,thought it looked a bit naff from what I'd seen but was quietly blown away,top film.

The Haywire? With Ewan McGregor and Michael Douglas? It was so bad I assumed they shot the whole thing in one take. It was a sight to see though. I'll give you that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 04 June, 2012, 03:29:51 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 04 June, 2012, 02:07:24 PM
Solomon Kane was another doozy,40mil budget.

It shows it can be done and Solomon Kane would have been far more successful had it been given a chance in the US. Certainly a better picture than many a big studio film. It was an independent and had immense trouble getting distribution. Possibly because it's DNA had been robbed for Van Helsing, a big flop. But to me, at the time, it felt like it was not given a chance.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 04 June, 2012, 03:39:28 PM
Quote from: Stan on 04 June, 2012, 03:16:01 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 04 June, 2012, 11:02:31 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 04 June, 2012, 09:04:03 AM
Sounds good to me.

My expectations for films have been set on low for the past decade anyway. I'd much rather be pleasantly surprised than disappointed.
Me too ,I got that on Friday when I watched Haywire,thought it looked a bit naff from what I'd seen but was quietly blown away,top film.

The Haywire? With Ewan McGregor and Michael Douglas? It was so bad I assumed they shot the whole thing in one take. It was a sight to see though. I'll give you that.
Really?thought it was a great little film,better than Salt or that last Bond.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 04 June, 2012, 04:28:07 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 04 June, 2012, 03:39:28 PM
Quote from: Stan on 04 June, 2012, 03:16:01 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 04 June, 2012, 11:02:31 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 04 June, 2012, 09:04:03 AM
Sounds good to me.

My expectations for films have been set on low for the past decade anyway. I'd much rather be pleasantly surprised than disappointed.
Me too ,I got that on Friday when I watched Haywire,thought it looked a bit naff from what I'd seen but was quietly blown away,top film.

The Haywire? With Ewan McGregor and Michael Douglas? It was so bad I assumed they shot the whole thing in one take. It was a sight to see though. I'll give you that.
Really?thought it was a great little film,better than Salt or that last Bond.

I can't watch Jolie films but I'm not that impressed with thingy's Bond either. I wasn't even a fan until I saw Layer Cake a few days ago.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 04 June, 2012, 04:55:11 PM
You're a tough audience Stan  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 04 June, 2012, 08:37:17 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 04 June, 2012, 04:55:11 PM
You're a tough audience Stan  :)

I'm just glad she isn't in this because then I'd have a problem. Either her or J-Lo. >:(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 04 June, 2012, 09:18:21 PM
Oh I dunno,always suspected she was geezer with that  macho bullshit shes pulls and together with her anorexic frame and mouth that would look at home with a hook in it I think she would make a great Judge Death.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 04 June, 2012, 11:40:36 PM
Quote from: norse_sage on 04 June, 2012, 11:41:37 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 03 June, 2012, 11:45:04 PM
I thought I'd ask which would be more upsetting for folk on the board here:

A: A piss-poor Dredd film that was nonetheless popular and would spawn sequels/toys/animated series e.t.c
or
B: An excellent Dredd film that nobody went to see ?

B! B!! B all the way!!!

Option B gives us a fans a movie we can enjoy, and something that will give a trickle of new fans for the indefinate future, certainly won't do any harm to the brand in the long run. Not so with A, which I consider the second worst that can happen....That's what happened with Robert E. Howard's Conan....That movie is deep, deep insult to the literary Conan, and it is deeply hated by a very large chunck of the Conan proper fans.

Sadly, for all its weakness as an adaptation, it worked as a standalone movie, and was loved by the public. As such, Milius and Ahnuld usurped the name of Conan, and every single Conan cartoon, film and comic (with the exception of the current Dark Horse comic) has owed more to the Milius film than the original Conan, and as such been total crap...

I hadn't thought of that but you are of course right, a 'successful-but-shite' film is a danger indeed.

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 04 June, 2012, 12:49:14 AM

....If I simply had to choose either A or B, I'd choose B, but I don't believe this Dredd is either of those absolutes but a little inbetween and to the left...

I'm hoping for a little to the right, but I reckon yours is the shrewder guess. Won't be long now before we'll see once and for all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 05 June, 2012, 02:24:37 AM
Through all our spamming I don't recall anyone mentioning the film's runtime. With screenings having occurred I would've expected someone to give a general guesstimate at least.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 05 June, 2012, 02:38:53 AM
I notice JW explained his minor issue with the film further down the update. If the vehicles are all it is then I'm relieved. I thought it may have been something a little more blasphemous.

The quibble: use of modern day vehicles in a futuristic setting. Given the budget constraints it is hard to see what they could do to avoid it. It's no big deal, really. It's over quickly and once you're past that it's full steam ahead into Dreddworld. If this film does well we can expect the budget on the next to increase, therefore more money for such SFX. And just consider, on a budget effectively less than a fifth of the Stallone piece they've managed to make a movie far more representative of the character and strip we all know and love.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 05 June, 2012, 02:16:23 PM
94 days....  man I'm bored.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 05 June, 2012, 03:56:31 PM
93 and a half *yawn* :|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 05 June, 2012, 04:22:45 PM
Yeah, starting to lose interest now...

NOT!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 05 June, 2012, 04:23:39 PM
Bah, that might have been vaguely amusing if I'd selected spoiler instead of strikeout.  Heigh ho.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 June, 2012, 09:36:53 PM
Some previz -animated- CGI Dredd footage at 31 seconds on this showreel:



http://www.sagarrathod.com/filmandtv.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 05 June, 2012, 09:55:31 PM
Wow, Slo-Mo in action, eh?  How do you find his stuff?!?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 June, 2012, 09:58:57 PM
Someone put it on Facebook.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jay jay on 05 June, 2012, 10:14:33 PM
has that clip been removed? i don't see it in the showreel. anyone have another link to it? i'd like to see it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 June, 2012, 10:16:28 PM
It's still there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 June, 2012, 10:17:00 PM
Quote from: jay jay on 05 June, 2012, 10:14:33 PM
has that clip been removed? i don't see it in the showreel. anyone have another link to it? i'd like to see it.

still there... it's animated slow-motion gun fights...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 05 June, 2012, 10:20:51 PM
Nice action sequences.  :o Any of this def' Dredd? :-*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 June, 2012, 10:22:02 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 05 June, 2012, 10:20:51 PM
Nice action sequences.  :o Any of this def' Dredd? :-*


Yep, Dredd is in his CV.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 05 June, 2012, 10:32:51 PM
Cheers Joe abit more info' to keep us all going till trailer time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jay jay on 05 June, 2012, 10:34:00 PM
oh i see. my mistake. thanks
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 05 June, 2012, 10:34:53 PM
Another FX artist currently working on (worked on) Dredd, no Dredd footage per say but interesting use of deploying buildings into cityscapes.

If anything else he has talent :)

Angelo White Showreel (http://www.angelowhite.nl/?page_id=525)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 05 June, 2012, 11:06:24 PM
looks like THE SLO MO EFFECT could be pretty cool.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 05 June, 2012, 11:15:32 PM
Taking out the fly with that bullet...that's feels very Dredd to me. Also, just had a glance on IMDB at the various teams involved in post on Dredd...great reels.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 05 June, 2012, 11:16:41 PM
But I've avoided reading the script, that fly scene will be old news to some, I don't want to know.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 05 June, 2012, 11:19:24 PM
I don't even remember if that fly gag was in the script.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 June, 2012, 11:23:51 PM
Official photos due this Friday on facebook page.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 05 June, 2012, 11:27:44 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 05 June, 2012, 11:23:51 PM
Official photos due this Friday on facebook page.

New photos or the ones we have previously scoured the net for ? Sorry to sound negative. Ill be a bit chipper if they are new for sure.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 05 June, 2012, 11:30:49 PM
The bearer if good news ... Thanks for the info' Joe it's been a long wait for all the forum massive !
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 05 June, 2012, 11:31:21 PM
Not new but HQ.
http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/post.php?p=5776#5776
*wants a trailer too .___.*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 06 June, 2012, 01:16:30 AM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 05 June, 2012, 11:31:21 PM
Not new but HQ.
http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/post.php?p=5776#5776
*wants a trailer too .___.*

Wow, there were a couple of things there I had not seen before.  Cool!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 06 June, 2012, 01:18:07 AM
Three months still to wait, plenty of time for a trailer...

Needy people.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 06 June, 2012, 01:50:20 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 05 June, 2012, 09:36:53 PM
Some previz -animated- CGI Dredd footage at 31 seconds on this showreel:
http://www.sagarrathod.com/filmandtv.html

Wow, that pre-viz reel is SERIOUSLY cool, it really looks like Dredd is a truly 3-D movie in every sense of the word, conceived and executed with the stereoscopic presentation fully in mind, rather than just an action movie with an unnecessary 3-D element bolted on for no real artistic reason, I have a feeling Dredd is going to be something truly unique that we haven't seen before...

Speaking of the 3-D element, hey Joe dude, I was reading that when movies are made or converted into 3-D, they have to do the visual effects shots twice to accommodate the stereoscopic images, is this true, you seem to be in the know with these matters, just thought I'd ask...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 01:57:37 AM
It can depend on the amount of layers to each image. The more layers, the more complex the image, the longer the render.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 06 June, 2012, 07:16:21 AM
If it is anything like how it works on computer games, then yes - the visual effect has to be rendered twice, once for each eye. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 06 June, 2012, 08:34:40 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 05 June, 2012, 10:34:53 PM
Angelo White Showreel (http://www.angelowhite.nl/?page_id=525)

Great find, Kowalsky!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 06 June, 2012, 08:52:32 AM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 05 June, 2012, 11:31:21 PM
Not new but HQ.
http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/post.php?p=5776#5776
*wants a trailer too .___.*

At the bottom right of the Minty scrawl is "MVK RIP". I take it this was shot after the... uh.. incident last year?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rex The Runt on 06 June, 2012, 09:18:33 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 05 June, 2012, 09:36:53 PM
Some previz -animated- CGI Dredd footage at 31 seconds on this showreel:

http://www.sagarrathod.com/filmandtv.html

I like how his shot list calls it pre vis for "untitled project"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 06 June, 2012, 09:20:06 AM
Says 11 years doing effects, you'd think he'd know better...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 06 June, 2012, 11:06:10 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 06 June, 2012, 09:20:06 AM
Says 11 years doing effects, you'd think he'd know better...

It's totally unprofessional and I don't think would win you any friends in the film industry, if I were casting around for people to work with I'd avoid those who posted scenes before they're permitted. Kind of amazing really, brazen. I would have thought you'd get a bad smell about you fast for pulling that crap. Looking at BASEBLACK who worked on Dredd - they're whole reel is Harry Potter, no need to break promises.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 06 June, 2012, 11:15:05 AM
From 2000AD's Facebook page


Some exciting DREDD movie news coming soon, Earthlets...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 11:42:15 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 06 June, 2012, 11:06:10 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 06 June, 2012, 09:20:06 AM
Says 11 years doing effects, you'd think he'd know better...

It's totally unprofessional and I don't think would win you any friends in the film industry, if I were casting around for people to work with I'd avoid those who posted scenes before they're permitted.


I'd say it happens on most films but most people aren't looking to find them.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 June, 2012, 01:28:56 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 06 June, 2012, 11:15:05 AM
From 2000AD's Facebook page


Some exciting DREDD movie news coming soon, Earthlets...

WET!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 06 June, 2012, 01:36:03 PM

[/quote]
I'd say it happens on most films but most people aren't looking to find them.
[/quote]

Probably. I just wonder how they can risk that on a public reel. Especially the guy that released the Judges clips...that had to backfire bad for his career.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 06 June, 2012, 01:39:03 PM
It's got nothing to attach it to Dredd really though has it unless you are in the know. I can't see the problem.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 06 June, 2012, 01:39:31 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 06 June, 2012, 11:15:05 AM
From 2000AD's Facebook page


Some exciting DREDD movie news coming soon, Earthlets...

Yes but when is soon?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 June, 2012, 01:49:58 PM

Yeah but Hope they dont blackout the sites with THEY ARE COME!  :-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 06 June, 2012, 02:00:08 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 06 June, 2012, 01:39:31 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 06 June, 2012, 11:15:05 AM
From 2000AD's Facebook page


Some exciting DREDD movie news coming soon, Earthlets...

Yes but when is soon?

Same on Twitter... and I thought the same as Lee... 'soon' is very flexible. Molch-R could leave us hanging for a week on that sentence.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 06 June, 2012, 02:03:08 PM
As I recall, Dan Dare was due to return "soon" as well...  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 06 June, 2012, 02:14:31 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 06 June, 2012, 01:39:03 PM
It's got nothing to attach it to Dredd really though has it unless you are in the know. I can't see the problem.

The previz is ok, it could be any film, so ye...I wouldn't have spotted it. But y'know, the FX person that posted the van, or 'shot to the head' clip...burning bridges!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 06 June, 2012, 02:20:09 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 June, 2012, 01:49:58 PM

Yeah but Hope they dont blackout the sites with THEY ARE COME!  :-\

Website is displaying oddly at work... about to check my phone...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 06 June, 2012, 04:12:09 PM
I'm pretty Internet savvy and I use Facebook a lot but man, I can't work out that frigging Dredd page. Can someone tell me how you see the latest posts by the Dredd people?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 06 June, 2012, 04:15:43 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 06 June, 2012, 04:12:09 PM
I'm pretty Internet savvy and I use Facebook a lot but man, I can't work out that frigging Dredd page. Can someone tell me how you see the latest posts by the Dredd people?

Would be good to know! Its all over the place a real shambles.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 06 June, 2012, 04:19:39 PM
It's a disaster of a FB page. Shoddily unprofessional. The Dredd people post replies in the comments sections, not that they've said much.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 04:42:13 PM
Should be called effacebook page.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 06 June, 2012, 04:45:15 PM
I think the easiest way is to simply "like" a page and then go on the "home" in your own page, and sort "recent". But how to get notified like on twitter, no idea...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 05:06:13 PM
Ireland & UK distributors Entertainment Films now have a Dredd page:


(http://www.entertainmentfilms.co.uk/files/images/Selected%20Stills_D3S4948.preview.jpg)



http://www.entertainmentfilms.co.uk/theatrical/dredd
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 06 June, 2012, 05:07:24 PM
Joe: awesome!!
http://www.entertainmentfilms.co.uk/files/images/Selected%20Stills_D3S4948.jpg
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 05:09:07 PM
(http://www.entertainmentfilms.co.uk/files/images/Selected%20Stills_D3S4948.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 06 June, 2012, 05:13:00 PM
HQ Stills and Karls birthday tomorow, this is a good week. And if the trailer really comes friday that would be just wonderful. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 June, 2012, 05:13:30 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 05:09:07 PM
(http://www.entertainmentfilms.co.uk/files/images/Selected%20Stills_D3S4948.jpg)

Now that is perfect Judge uniform! Even nice Dredd badge!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 June, 2012, 05:14:08 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 06 June, 2012, 05:13:00 PM
HQ Stills and Karls birthday tomorow, this is a good week. And if the trailer really comes friday that would be just wonderful. :)

Or on this Saturday, my birthday,  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 06 June, 2012, 05:14:52 PM
Goaty: A party marathon? Why not.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 06 June, 2012, 05:33:27 PM
Now that's the long arm of the law,the blokes like a bloody orangutan .

Great to see things are moving though...but yeah,that FB page is piss poor effort,lazy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 06 June, 2012, 05:46:03 PM
Nice! Very nice indeed good find JOE
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 06 June, 2012, 05:47:21 PM
Jeez guys, will you give it a rest? They've literally only just set the thing up. Is it any wonder they're reluctant to engage if before they even get off the ground they're met with a wall of negativity?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 06 June, 2012, 05:56:14 PM
We only whinge because we care.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 06 June, 2012, 06:01:36 PM
Hey I wasn't whinging, it as a genuine ask for assistance.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 06 June, 2012, 06:03:52 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 06 June, 2012, 06:01:36 PM
Hey I wasn't whinging, it as a genuine ask for assistance.

I wasn't referring to you, Pete.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 06 June, 2012, 06:05:22 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 06 June, 2012, 05:56:14 PM
We only whinge because we care.

Apologies if I was whinging, just want it to be so right!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 06 June, 2012, 06:06:33 PM
And if helps I can assist with any web layout regarding FB.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 06 June, 2012, 06:07:51 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 06 June, 2012, 06:06:33 PM
And if helps I can assist with any web layout regarding FB.

It's all in hand.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 06 June, 2012, 06:28:31 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 06 June, 2012, 06:07:51 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 06 June, 2012, 06:06:33 PM
And if helps I can assist with any web layout regarding FB.

It's all in hand.

Must.. Restrain.. Myself.. From.. Making.. Wank.. Jokes..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 06 June, 2012, 06:32:47 PM
Careful,that was a bit near the knuckle.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 June, 2012, 06:45:31 PM
I am fine with the Facebook, don't understand the negatives on lack of news, we get HD picture of Dredd today, JW approves the film last week!

It's looks like trailer will be with US release of Prometheus.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 June, 2012, 07:09:12 PM
The facebook page is waiting for release of official poster and trailer I think. That's why it is bank.


That Dredd image is truly wonderful.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 06 June, 2012, 07:10:09 PM
Almost want to hit up the midnight screenings of Prometheus just for the hope of a Dredd trailer. Saw Crimson Tide four times in a row just to watch the '95 trailer...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 June, 2012, 07:46:59 PM
Drokkin' Grud!!!

Why do people think the first trailer will be with the US release of Prometheus, do you not remember the fiasco of it supposedly being shown with the UK release. That spread round the web like wildfire and only ended in disappointment and all because of a few taps on a keyboard. That's the sort of talk that puts a negative slant on the promo work behind the scenes.

Just sit back and listen to Molch-R, after all I think he will have a slight advantage over most people of when things are going to happen. I've already said that I am happy with a SHORT, SHARP, SHOCK & AWE campaign that will blow us all away, rather than an elongated muddle that loses its impact due to all the Summer Blockbusters that would have taken away any DREDD references in the media.

This thread is eating itself and Grud knows what any external press bods would think if they lurked on here to get some info on what the official fans thought. It seems to be more negative than positive. I know that the lack of any info feeds this sort of thing but our film doesn't have the marketing campaign of DC or Marvel and we have to live with that.

Up to now we've seen some unofficial shots of vehicles including the Lawmaster. These were not lit correctly with all the movie magic and so were bound to look weird. I have mentioned earlier that normal vehicles did appear in Dredd, as you will find in the early case files, big deal!

The uniform and especially the helmet fiasco should have been put to bed with THIS (http://2000ad.wordpress.com/2011/08/01/the-dredd-movie-uniform-why-it-works/) article for ecbt2000ad but still people go on about the size of the MOTORBIKE helmet. Did any of you see the picture I took of Biz at Bristol wearing a helmet. The angle that was taken at makes it look larger than it actually is!

I saw that pre-viz stuff earlier and could happily watch a cartoon version of the movie now. Those few scenes look superb and bode well for all the action in the film.

Last year JOCK said he'd seen the first 5 minutes and was impressed. WAGNER has seen the film and he seems to be happy and from the screening in Cannes the other week, it seems to have gone down well and many people didn't even have seats to sit on as the place was bursting with people wanting to see it.

So come on folks, let's not kill ourselves over not seeing much yet, as I'm sure that when we see the campaign start we will all be extremely happy  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 06 June, 2012, 07:49:14 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 June, 2012, 06:45:31 PM
It's looks like trailer will be with US release of Prometheus.

That would be great, but I hope you're not getting this info from that lunatic Dredd troll who posts under 800 different names on imdb.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 06 June, 2012, 08:10:20 PM
That is a beauty of a picture...lanky, lean and mean. Way it should be.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 08:12:29 PM
So much blue language CF, think of the children. This argument's been had since the first still was released and it's been said umpteen times that there wouldn't be a huge marketing campaign and that it'd be best for the film to have a delayed strategy; if some want to ignore that fact, they can. People will moan if they're led to believe they've a reason by themselves or others. That's how the web works.

The best publicity in the world crippled the reaction to Prometheus and proved the marketeers were better at their job than the film-makers.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 06 June, 2012, 08:21:38 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 June, 2012, 07:46:59 PM

.....So come on folks, let's not kill ourselves over not seeing much yet, as I'm sure that when we see the campaign start we will all be extremely happy  :D

What CF said. :thumbsup:

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 08:39:01 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 June, 2012, 07:46:59 PM

This thread is eating itself and Grud knows what any external press bods would think if they lurked on here to get some info on what the official fans thought. It seems to be more negative than positive. I know that the lack of any info feeds this sort of thing but our film doesn't have the marketing campaign of DC or Marvel and we have to live with that.


Let's face it, this place is a mild cardigan & slipper brigade compared to the equivalent forums of Dredd's comic cousins.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 06 June, 2012, 09:18:31 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 05:06:13 PM
Ireland & UK distributors Entertainment Films now have a Dredd page:

http://www.entertainmentfilms.co.uk/files/images/Selected%20Stills_D3S4948.preview.jpg

http://www.entertainmentfilms.co.uk/theatrical/dredd

Nice!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 06 June, 2012, 09:21:43 PM
When I uploded to Facebook it gave me this information. Spoiler?

[spoiler]JD Stills

Scene 135 Int. Slo Mo Manufacturing Base (Night) ~ Dredd (CARL URBAN) battles with Lex (LANGLEY KIRKWOOD) and Alvarez (Edwin Perry). Copyright © 2011 ~ DNA Films Limited (UK) & Kalahari Pictures (Pty) Limited (South Africa).[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 06 June, 2012, 09:23:05 PM
Actually, on second look I think I read it wrong. I kinda took it as judges doing battle with eachother.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 06 June, 2012, 09:26:28 PM
"C"arl? ... ;__; His name is Karl. *going to bed with my big cardigan and the dredd plush slippers*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 09:29:48 PM
Quote from: Stan on 06 June, 2012, 09:23:05 PM
Actually, on second look I think I read it wrong. I kinda took it as judges doing battle with eachother.


[spoiler]They are[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 06 June, 2012, 09:40:59 PM
Arg. That was clever. Made a quick edit to my upload.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 06 June, 2012, 10:01:56 PM
*_* pics pics pics
http://www.aurumproducciones.com/index.php?servicio=cine&c_pelicula_id=1671
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 10:03:24 PM
Nice:

(http://www.aurumproducciones.com/activos/imagen/waurum_sinalias_0001ficha-2eg4wpgam.jpg)



(http://www.aurumproducciones.com/activos/imagen/dredd_02.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 June, 2012, 10:05:29 PM
Wow.... Nice Judge belt with the badge!! Wonder what he carried!

His uniform is leather!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 06 June, 2012, 10:10:07 PM
That is fucking cool!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 10:11:29 PM
Best photo so far.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 June, 2012, 10:12:11 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 10:11:29 PM
Best photo so far.

I agree, it's perfect Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 06 June, 2012, 10:13:09 PM
Arrest me, Sir! *chinhands* le sigh
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 06 June, 2012, 10:15:53 PM
Great stuff! 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 June, 2012, 10:21:29 PM
Ooh got FOUR bullet clips on his belt. That what I call overkill  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 06 June, 2012, 10:25:21 PM
Those pictures are fucking brilliant! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 06 June, 2012, 10:25:47 PM
Fucking Arsom. Very nice.
@ Goaty.[pedant] It's called a magazine. They carry rounds.[/pedant]




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 06 June, 2012, 10:35:20 PM
He looks nice and thin. No hips, skinny like early Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Toni Scandella on 06 June, 2012, 10:40:53 PM
the helmet looks too small...

;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 June, 2012, 10:42:53 PM
Quote from: Toni Scandella on 06 June, 2012, 10:40:53 PM
the helmet looks too small...

;)

It's getting bored and old.

Thanks vzzbux for correct me
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 06 June, 2012, 10:43:16 PM
I wasn't crazy about the helmet and the uniform when the first pic was released, but I'm completely sold at this point.
Looks good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 06 June, 2012, 10:43:50 PM
Yeah, that's the stuff. Mean, moody and dangerous. He WILL execute you.

Now the poster and trailer please!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 06 June, 2012, 10:45:02 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 06 June, 2012, 11:15:05 AM
Some exciting DREDD movie news coming soon, Earthlets...

Hold on, that sounds suspiciously like the code-phrase Freeway editors used for "we're merging your comic with another one next week, kids!"

Could be we're due for a movie merger...

- The Hunt for Dredd October
- Lawmaster and Commander
- School of Drokk
- Boing Free

etc. etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 06 June, 2012, 10:46:33 PM
Oh, and just noticed the gauntlets, as well as the boots, knee pads and shoulder pads, are green. That's a great touch.

This uniform is about as close to the comic as I could have hoped. In fact, I prefer it to the comic version.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 06 June, 2012, 10:47:34 PM
*elbow pads, not shoulder pads...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 10:53:06 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 06 June, 2012, 10:46:33 PM

This uniform is about as close to the comic as I could have hoped. In fact, I prefer it to the comic version.


It comes across stronger and more dangerous as a de facto Dredd uniform.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Grimmyx22 on 06 June, 2012, 10:54:06 PM
All my doubts (not many) banished. He looks amazing. Compare to a '95 still to see the true glory.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 06 June, 2012, 11:01:39 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 06 June, 2012, 10:45:02 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 06 June, 2012, 11:15:05 AM
Some exciting DREDD movie news coming soon, Earthlets...

Hold on, that sounds suspiciously like the code-phrase Freeway editors used for "we're merging your comic with another one next week, kids!" Could be we're due for a movie merger...

- The Hunt for Dredd October
- Lawmaster and Commander
- School of Drokk
- Boing Free

The Unbearable Lightness Of Boing™
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 06 June, 2012, 11:29:23 PM
Well, does exactly what it's supposed to do: Instill respect and, excuse the pun, dread. Absolutely perfect to my eyes. Function over style. Pretty clear looking at these that the bigger padding people were clamoring for would have looked ridiculous in reality. The man has to move for a living. If there's one thing these stills have conveyed, it's that Dredd's day job looks like a complete nightmare.

Bring it fucking on...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 11:35:13 PM
Spot the J.I.M.P?



(http://cdn.superherohype.com/assets/components/com_joomgallery/img_pictures/judge_dredd_7913/dredd_7915/dredd_2_20120606_1394909100.jpg?1339019905) (http://i2.listal.com/image/3005202/400full.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 06 June, 2012, 11:37:50 PM
Gimp, more like... :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: LARF on 06 June, 2012, 11:44:59 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 11:35:13 PM
Spot the J.I.M.P?



(http://cdn.superherohype.com/assets/components/com_joomgallery/img_pictures/judge_dredd_7913/dredd_7915/dredd_2_20120606_1394909100.jpg?1339019905) (http://i2.listal.com/image/3005202/400full.jpg)

LOL! Stallone looks like he should be on the cover of 'Fudge Dredd'

When comparing the two there is just no comparison, how the hell did we fall that that load of shite in '95?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 06 June, 2012, 11:57:06 PM
No comparison!Great job on that uniform, now sentence the GIMP to a straight 20 on titan :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 06 June, 2012, 11:59:24 PM
Wow the Stallone version really looks shite in comparison! Wish I could remove all trace of that film from my memory...

I think the authentic helmet design looks stunning along side the altered movie outfit, and it's going to stay on for the entire film!!!!

Bring on September   :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 07 June, 2012, 12:05:53 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 11:35:13 PM
(http://cdn.superherohype.com/assets/components/com_joomgallery/img_pictures/judge_dredd_7913/dredd_7915/dredd_2_20120606_1394909100.jpg?1339019905)

:o... WOW!  If anyone has any doubts about this film, then speak now or forever hold your peace, as for me, I'll just lie in the corner in a pool of my own drooling saliva...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 07 June, 2012, 12:50:52 AM
That is an awesome shot.... I think there is a heightened level of excitement as each day nears September, I had some reservations about the helmet but it looks unreal.  :o
Nice!!! Anyone find a HQ source for that please post it here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 07 June, 2012, 12:56:42 AM
 That's a great picture, Mr Urban sure looks the part.

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 07 June, 2012, 12:57:08 AM
Got it a few pages back, nice one Joe!!  :)
Jaw dropping.....I just have a feeling this could be a proper sleeper word of mouth type of movie. Hopefully we'll have some more goodies by the weekend!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 07 June, 2012, 01:02:13 AM
Quote from: Toni Scandella on 06 June, 2012, 10:40:53 PM
the helmet looks too small...

;)
On the contrary. The helmet looks the best its ever been seen.

I think I'll have to keep a beer handy for the release of the trailer. Like many events in 2012, the Olympics, Man city's win, Diamond Jubilee, it should have a special celebration of its own.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 07 June, 2012, 01:27:25 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 June, 2012, 10:42:53 PM
Quote from: Toni Scandella on 06 June, 2012, 10:40:53 PM
the helmet looks too small...

;)

It's getting bored and old.

Quote from: George Dread on 07 June, 2012, 01:02:13 AM
Quote from: Toni Scandella on 06 June, 2012, 10:40:53 PM
the helmet looks too small...

;)
On the contrary. The helmet looks the best its ever been seen.

It's called sarcasm.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 June, 2012, 01:50:37 AM
Bloody hell that looks good!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 07 June, 2012, 02:01:35 AM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 07 June, 2012, 01:27:25 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 June, 2012, 10:42:53 PM
Quote from: Toni Scandella on 06 June, 2012, 10:40:53 PM
the helmet looks too small...

;)

It's getting bored and old.

Quote from: George Dread on 07 June, 2012, 01:02:13 AM
Quote from: Toni Scandella on 06 June, 2012, 10:40:53 PM
the helmet looks too small...

;)
On the contrary. The helmet looks the best its ever been seen.

It's called sarcasm.


No snit?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 June, 2012, 02:22:54 AM
By the way, that poster on the distributor site isn't the official one is it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 07 June, 2012, 05:16:07 AM
very cool indeed,no 'quibbles' at all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 June, 2012, 06:24:52 AM
Would be awesome if it came as poster in 2000AD or Meg!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 07 June, 2012, 07:07:44 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 08:39:01 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 June, 2012, 07:46:59 PM
Let's face it, this place is a mild cardigan & slipper brigade compared to the equivalent forums of Dredd's comic cousins.
:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 07 June, 2012, 07:17:37 AM
The Dredd promo' machine drops into second gear at last! First gear was the Empire feature and Mr Wagner's appraisal. The new picture looks f**king A! Now it's time to back it. I'll be posting this picture and link to my facebook blog and beyond, lets spread the word!

As for the comparison to the Sly costume, the 95 version was a product of the time, big shoulder pads and cod pieces were still high fashion coming out of the 80's (I'm still wearing mine)! :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 07 June, 2012, 07:27:21 AM
 :o OH MY DROKKING GRUD !!! Best re-interpretation of a character uniform, that I can think of. Pure Bad ass. Uncompromising. Lethal...even a flash in the visor. I'm impressed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 07 June, 2012, 07:52:35 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 07 June, 2012, 12:05:53 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 11:35:13 PM
(http://cdn.superherohype.com/assets/components/com_joomgallery/img_pictures/judge_dredd_7913/dredd_7915/dredd_2_20120606_1394909100.jpg?1339019905)

:o... WOW!  If anyone has any doubts about this film, then speak now or forever hold your peace, as for me, I'll just lie in the corner in a pool of my own drooling saliva...

Now he should kick Christian Bales Batman right off his wee bike and say 'Those tires are Justice Dept. property, 20 years'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 07 June, 2012, 08:18:19 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 June, 2012, 02:22:54 AM
By the way, that poster on the distributor site isn't the official one is it?

Definately not. It's been thrown together just for that page.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 07 June, 2012, 09:48:35 AM
Ace piccie! It IS DREDD!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 07 June, 2012, 09:51:27 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 07 June, 2012, 12:05:53 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2012, 11:35:13 PM
(http://cdn.superherohype.com/assets/components/com_joomgallery/img_pictures/judge_dredd_7913/dredd_7915/dredd_2_20120606_1394909100.jpg?1339019905)
:o... WOW!  If anyone has any doubts about this film, then speak now or forever hold your peace, as for me, I'll just lie in the corner in a pool of my own drooling saliva...

Gobsmackingly good.  :o Look at those number of ammunition pouches he's geared up for War!

I don't know if tomorrow we'll be seeing the Trailer since Prometheus is released in the U.S on June the 8th but these new images will certainly keep my brain frying with anticipation till they do release the dratted Trailer!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 07 June, 2012, 10:00:31 AM
Quote from: bikini kill on 06 June, 2012, 11:01:39 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 06 June, 2012, 10:45:02 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 06 June, 2012, 11:15:05 AM

- Boing Free

The Unbearable Lightness Of Boing™

:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 07 June, 2012, 10:20:30 AM
 Karl Urban - 40 today.

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 07 June, 2012, 11:46:31 AM
 :D Grud bless him. All this is making me want to sing! ...

It's coming home, it's coming home Dredd is coming home etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 07 June, 2012, 01:18:00 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 June, 2012, 07:46:59 PM

...This thread is eating itself and Grud knows what any external press bods would think if they lurked on here to get some info on what the official fans thought...
Are you suggesting we moderate all our speculation and opinions on the off-chance that external press may misinterpret them? What's left for us then?
We are not employed to market this film, and I honestly don't understand the point of being part of any discussion that can only be one-sided.
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 June, 2012, 07:46:59 PM

Up to now we've seen some unofficial shots of vehicles including the Lawmaster. These were not lit correctly with all the movie magic and so were bound to look weird. I have mentioned earlier that normal vehicles did appear in Dredd, as you will find in the early case files, big deal!

Now look, the fact that some standard and uninteresting vehicles can be spotted in the background of a few old progs does not mean that non-futuristic vehicles in a Dredd universe ceases to be an issue for readers of the comic. "It was in a prog once, and therefore it's good" defends nothing.

Wagner didn't like 'em and some people here don't like what they've seen of  'em: big deal!
So it's an issue; people talk about it. It's not a deal-breaker, it doesn't mean that we know how they will finally appear or that we're all not waiting for the film with baited breath.

The latest pic looks fantastic, the vehicles of this film will probably suit that vision way better than hover-pads or modified Land-Rovers ever would. But please don't suggest we only ever speak well of what we see and think on the off-chance a lazy journo might pick us up wrong;
That's just stifling folk.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 07 June, 2012, 01:20:39 PM
Slightly dodgy looking Poster. Don't think it's the real deal at all so link rather than piccy.

http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/20773/waurum_sinalias_0001-2ase4dqhm.jpg
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 07 June, 2012, 01:32:45 PM
There's nothing dodgy about it . looks good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 07 June, 2012, 01:38:41 PM
Hmmmm!  It smacks of some magical and mystical photoshopery!
The give away is over use of lens flares / effects.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 07 June, 2012, 01:45:07 PM
Wrong font, no...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 June, 2012, 02:04:29 PM
Also no dates or credits on it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 07 June, 2012, 02:08:42 PM
It appeared on the Comic Book Movies website. Don't know who created it but it's probably a fan piece.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 June, 2012, 02:11:55 PM
It was likely created by the Italian distributor as a place-holder on their website, it's not official, no poster has been released.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 07 June, 2012, 02:13:56 PM

(http://www.aurumproducciones.com/activos/imagen/dredd_02.jpg)

The thing that makes that image better that any seen so far is the light coming down the visor over his right eye, mimicking the lightning bolt style used by most artists in the comic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 07 June, 2012, 02:21:43 PM
Aye, probably why they released it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 07 June, 2012, 02:41:51 PM
wonder if some poor schmuck had to wander around shining a strip light at him to get the light on the visor :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 07 June, 2012, 02:57:09 PM
DREDD - Now with dress pads, for those special occasions ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/L1SEP.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 June, 2012, 02:58:53 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 07 June, 2012, 02:57:09 PM
DREDD - Now with dress pads, for those special occasions ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/L1SEP.jpg)

Wow! Previously I quite liked the style they had went for with the shoulder pads, but I think like that he actually looks better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 June, 2012, 02:59:11 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 07 June, 2012, 02:57:09 PM
DREDD - Now with dress pads, for those special occasions ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/L1SEP.jpg)

Horrible, that something familiar about that crap photoshop, is that you Who-Cant-Be-Arsed-To-Named?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 07 June, 2012, 03:01:43 PM
You could have at least put the pad and eagle on the right shoulders.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mejustnow on 07 June, 2012, 03:03:07 PM
The shoulder pads are the wrong way round in that photoshop.  I'm getting really psyched for this now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 June, 2012, 03:03:50 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 June, 2012, 02:58:53 PM
Wow! Previously I quite liked the style they had went for with the shoulder pads, but I think like that he actually looks better.





Photoshopping Colin McNeil pads onto it doesn't make it either real or practical though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mejustnow on 07 June, 2012, 03:04:11 PM
And I've just noticed that I can post in the movie forum now!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 June, 2012, 03:07:17 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 June, 2012, 03:03:50 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 June, 2012, 02:58:53 PM
Wow! Previously I quite liked the style they had went for with the shoulder pads, but I think like that he actually looks better.





Photoshopping Colin McNeil pads onto it doesn't make it either real or practical though.

Yeah, I am still happy with the look they have gone for, but didn't think big pads would suit it. Seeing that I think it does make him seem a bit bigger and more intimidating, maybe not the right one so much, but the left one looks ace.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 June, 2012, 03:07:25 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 07 June, 2012, 02:59:11 PM
Horrible, that something familiar about that crap photoshop, is that you Who-Cant-Be-Arsed-To-Named?



Seems to be.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 07 June, 2012, 03:08:19 PM
No its not "The-Thing-that-should-not-be" lol, new here, but been watching the boards a while, I've seen those shoops, I hope mine aren't THAT bad!

Couldn't put shoulders on right way round due to angles, basically i was just putting the two movie Dredds side by side and having a good laugh (at Stallones expense) And thought.... I wonder...

Quite like the end result, but for an action film they would be impractical. i noticed someone else had commented about dress and combat uniforms, that's why i said for special occasions.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mejustnow on 07 June, 2012, 03:12:59 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 07 June, 2012, 03:08:19 PM

Couldn't put shoulders on right way round due to angles, basically i was just putting the two movie Dredds side by side and having a good laugh (at Stallones expense) And thought.... I wonder...


I get access to the full board and the first thing I do is snipe, I'm sorry.  It does look cool but I'm glad they've gone more practical because I'm hoping that Urban is going to put in a very physical performance.  No hands on hips highlighting codpieces.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 07 June, 2012, 03:17:45 PM
Nice idea and thanks for visualizing it for us.  It would be nice to see the judges suited up in formal garb with chains and shiney bits.  It might happen after the bust up in the block when they discard combat gear!?  ... Oh!  to dream.  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 07 June, 2012, 03:20:34 PM
QuoteI get access to the full board and the first thing I do is snipe, I'm sorry.

No worries, you were quite right anyway.

Looking forward to the film! Thrill levels are overloading already, don't know how I'll last until the film is released without exploding. Its like having a new girlfriend and been told "No access for 3 months!!"

At least we're allowed the odd fumble ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 07 June, 2012, 03:24:48 PM
Would be nice to see the full eagle and pads for ceremonial dress only. Trouble is, that isn't what the order is about. Even the pomp and ceremony in the prog just had them in the usual attire. Ready for action 24/7.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 07 June, 2012, 03:46:46 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 June, 2012, 03:07:17 PMSeeing that I think it does make him seem a bit bigger and more intimidating

Dredd: Freeze, punks!

Crim: Oh man, he looks pretty intimidating!

Dredd: Drokk! These new shoulder pads are too big and I can't raise my arms.

*Crim kicks Dredd's chin off*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 07 June, 2012, 04:29:21 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 07 June, 2012, 02:57:09 PM
DREDD - Now with dress pads, for those special occasions ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/L1SEP.jpg)


Looks ridiculous. Perfect the way it is as a practical, functional suit. You stick giant lumps of eagle on it and we're back to Stallone's Fisher-Price version.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Toni Scandella on 07 June, 2012, 05:15:09 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 07 June, 2012, 01:27:25 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 June, 2012, 10:42:53 PM
Quote from: Toni Scandella on 06 June, 2012, 10:40:53 PM
the helmet looks too small...

;)

It's getting bored and old.

Quote from: George Dread on 07 June, 2012, 01:02:13 AM
Quote from: Toni Scandella on 06 June, 2012, 10:40:53 PM
the helmet looks too small...

;)
On the contrary. The helmet looks the best its ever been seen.

It's called sarcasm.

Glad someone noticed I wasn't being serious.  It was more a comment at all the 'helmet is too big' comments all over the internet from the dark pics we had seen previously - as soon as we see a decent picture it looks spot on and perfect.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 07 June, 2012, 05:29:51 PM
Be cool if 'Hot Toys' got the Dredd licence,a 12'' version of that badboy would be my pride and joy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 07 June, 2012, 05:32:33 PM
edit....not the shopped pic,the movie version.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 07 June, 2012, 05:46:01 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 07 June, 2012, 05:29:51 PM
Be cool if 'Hot Toys' got the Dredd licence,a 12'' version of that badboy would be my pride and joy.

Oh, yes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 June, 2012, 05:51:05 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 07 June, 2012, 03:46:46 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 June, 2012, 03:07:17 PMSeeing that I think it does make him seem a bit bigger and more intimidating

Dredd: Freeze, punks!

Crim: Oh man, he looks pretty intimidating!

Dredd: Drokk! These new shoulder pads are too big and I can't raise my arms.

*Crim kicks Dredd's chin off*

Surely that would just break his foot?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 07 June, 2012, 05:55:05 PM
Quote from: Toni Scandella on 07 June, 2012, 05:15:09 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 07 June, 2012, 01:27:25 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 June, 2012, 10:42:53 PM
Quote from: Toni Scandella on 06 June, 2012, 10:40:53 PM
the helmet looks too small...

;)

It's getting bored and old.

Quote from: George Dread on 07 June, 2012, 01:02:13 AM
Quote from: Toni Scandella on 06 June, 2012, 10:40:53 PM
the helmet looks too small...

;)
On the contrary. The helmet looks the best its ever been seen.

It's called sarcasm.

Glad someone noticed I wasn't being serious.  It was more a comment at all the 'helmet is too big' comments all over the internet from the dark pics we had seen previously - as soon as we see a decent picture it looks spot on and perfect.

Jesus. I knew it was sarcasm and used it as a segway for also mentioning how I thought the helmet looked as I'd omitted to in the previous post. So I came in with " on the contrary"? So?

That said, it is a statement contrary to what was said, be it sarcasm or an actual statement. If you want icons maybe lead with them. And maybe, just maybe Goaty right, but please don't think of that one of mine is a kneejerk reaction. If I had a moustache puckering icon at my disposal perhaps you could have seen I was in the know as it were. Christ. I hate the internet sometimes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 07 June, 2012, 06:13:56 PM
Quote from: George Dread on 07 June, 2012, 05:55:05 PM
...Christ. I hate the internet sometimes....
Hard to judge the 'tone' sometimes alright.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Toni Scandella on 07 June, 2012, 06:18:00 PM
It can be, so apologies.  No snarkiness intended, George Dread.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 07 June, 2012, 06:25:57 PM
Thanks. I thought I was to be judged by my rant. No problem Tony. Maybe being frustrated at how the internet works is a bit off topic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 June, 2012, 06:35:21 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 June, 2012, 05:51:05 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 07 June, 2012, 03:46:46 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 June, 2012, 03:07:17 PMSeeing that I think it does make him seem a bit bigger and more intimidating

Dredd: Freeze, punks!

Crim: Oh man, he looks pretty intimidating!

Dredd: Drokk! These new shoulder pads are too big and I can't raise my arms.

*Crim kicks Dredd's chin off*

Surely that would just break his foot?

No that would be RICO with his metal chin.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 07 June, 2012, 09:12:31 PM
I wonder how (or if) the film uniform will affect the way artists draw the character?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 07 June, 2012, 09:16:39 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 07 June, 2012, 09:12:31 PM
I wonder how (or if) the film uniform will affect the way artists draw the character?

Given that several* still do the Stallone collars, probably.

Flinty's already started rounding the shoulder pad. 




*I've got my eye on you, Holden.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 June, 2012, 09:30:29 PM
Ben Willsher has drawn similar gauntlets and Utility Judges featuring chest-pads with straps.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 June, 2012, 09:41:02 PM
There's been a noticeable tinting of the whole.

My take on it is, use what works but it's pointless to slavishly copy all aspects of something that has been modified once to work in another medium when you're going back to where it started.

Otherwise we're going to end up with H-Wagons replaced with 4x4s rented from Avis.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 07 June, 2012, 10:43:18 PM
I can forgive most things as long as the helmet is a 'U' shape rather than a rounded 'V' like Dredd spends his spare time picking rice.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 June, 2012, 10:58:57 PM
Brendan McCarthy is drawing you naked with no helmet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 07 June, 2012, 11:38:58 PM
Chris Blythe started colouring Dredd's visor all black (instead of the old school 'two-tone' version) shortly before we saw the first ever movie pic. It's always all black now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 07 June, 2012, 11:47:19 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 07 June, 2012, 09:41:02 PM
There's been a noticeable tinting of the whole.

My take on it is, use what works but it's pointless to slavishly copy all aspects of something that has been modified once to work in another medium when you're going back to where it started.

Otherwise we're going to end up with H-Wagons replaced with 4x4s rented from Avis.

Nice last line  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 07 June, 2012, 11:51:28 PM
I quite like a V-shaped helmet (oo-er missus)... Nothing wrong with the U version of course, though I often find some artists forget that the helmet is supposed to provide some kind of padding, while allowing the skin to breathe, are if not just part of Dredd's head. With the helmet on for so many hours of the day I fear he would look like some kind of unmasked Vadar creature underneath.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jay jay on 08 June, 2012, 12:02:38 AM
new dredd pic (low-res)

(https://p.twimg.com/Au0B7nrCMAEEPZb.png:large)

https://twitter.com/WolvieCBM/status/210826881325477888/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/WolvieCBM/status/210826881325477888/photo/1)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 08 June, 2012, 12:09:50 AM
Ha ha!Who made that obvious fake?!:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 08 June, 2012, 12:10:42 AM
Don't get too excited: It looks like (possibly) Urban in an amended Stallone helmet on a 2000ad replica outfit, possibly stuck in front of a Stallone movie vehicle.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 08 June, 2012, 12:17:27 AM
Some people shouldn't be let near Photoshop.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 08 June, 2012, 12:32:10 AM
Quote from: jay jay on 08 June, 2012, 12:02:38 AM
new dredd pic (low-res)

(https://p.twimg.com/Au0B7nrCMAEEPZb.png:large)

https://twitter.com/WolvieCBM/status/210826881325477888/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/WolvieCBM/status/210826881325477888/photo/1)

SC*J* ALERT!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jay jay on 08 June, 2012, 12:51:16 AM
my bad, i thought it was real
Title: Re: Dredd (2012): BRAND NEW IMAGE AND PLOT
Post by: darren1973 on 08 June, 2012, 01:26:47 AM
Full details here guys...

Please share around and comment!

http://darrens-world-of-entertainment.blogspot.co.nz/2012/06/new-dredd-image-released.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 June, 2012, 06:43:04 AM
Do you have to wait until October down there  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 June, 2012, 07:35:37 AM
I saw that pic somewhere yesterday. Baffling. Why would anyone go to the trouble of finding an Urban (looks like LOTR era to me) to fit a Stallone helmet only to then go to the trouble of drawing in the cross bar on the visor...thats defo a stallone Dredd vehicle back there too. I just thought what the hell?...and then I ran in to the street shouting 'WHY?" "WHY, DaMN IT, WHY?'..admittedly, I over-reacted.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 08 June, 2012, 07:38:20 AM
Not that I could ever be accused of obsessing over such a thing but according to some buddies, the Dredd trailer is in fact, not attached to Prometheus here in the US. Or at least it wasn't at some theaters in NY at the midnight show...

Even though I know a short, sharp shock of blitz advertising anytime after Dark Knight will be most effective at getting this movie noticed, I'm pathetically impatient.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 07:46:43 AM
Why is he still bothering?

So.. How about this weather, eh?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 June, 2012, 07:52:55 AM
Alot of us have followed this thread from day one and it's been a long haul ( much akin to a long walk into the cursed earth).  I've now gone from impatient to a gibbering loon chuckling to myself as the trailer is moved from one possible to another. I reckon we'll see the teaser on the DREDD  opening night screening!    :'( :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 June, 2012, 08:20:33 AM
It's D-Day! haha...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 08 June, 2012, 10:16:49 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 07:46:43 AM
So.. How about this weather, eh?
Welcome to the English summer Michael. :D
Quote from: dracula1 on 08 June, 2012, 07:52:55 AM
Alot of us have followed this thread from day one and it's been a long haul ( much akin to a long walk into the cursed earth).
Isn't there some spiritual teaching that says "The longer the journey, the greater the reward"?

Fingers crossed eh? ;)

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 08 June, 2012, 10:18:58 AM
Not with the US Prometheus?whats next? Batman and San Diego comic con?....spiderman perhaps.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 08 June, 2012, 10:29:44 AM
...we've still got the 'exciting news' to come, right? RIGHT?

WHERE'S THE EXCITING NEWS??!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 June, 2012, 10:30:47 AM
I'd say SDCC, attached to TDKR after that. Although there is the argument that if you're avoiding the summer because of crowded releases, then doesn't it follow that you'd pick a quiet spot before SDCC for the same reason?

Spiderman, maybe - but I don't really see why they'd hold off on a better fit like Prometheus (15 rated) just to save it for the next genre film along with a lower rating.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 08 June, 2012, 10:39:29 AM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 08 June, 2012, 10:29:44 AM
...we've still got the 'exciting news' to come, right? RIGHT?

WHERE'S THE EXCITING NEWS??!!
They are saving it for a blu ray extra
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jay jay on 08 June, 2012, 10:55:01 AM
anyone know when that poster will be released?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 June, 2012, 10:56:29 AM
No eta given but the official line is "soon".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 June, 2012, 11:11:18 AM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 08 June, 2012, 10:29:44 AM
...we've still got the 'exciting news' to come, right? RIGHT?

WHERE'S THE EXCITING NEWS??!!

Well, we get the best picture of Dredd ever, is that enough?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mejustnow on 08 June, 2012, 11:23:18 AM
I've got a growing good feeling about this.
2012 is a massive year for genre films, I don't need to run down the list for you all.

What we have seen, though, is a couple of multi-million dollar promotional campaigns doing a really bad job.  I'd have preferred to have seen a lot less from Prometheus, and The Amazing Spider-Man seems to have generated not much more than a 'meh'.  Heck, in front of Prometheus there was the weirdest trailer for Spidey that was more of a montage plus an extended scene.  It smacked of desparation.

Remember how the campaign for Rise of the Planet of the Apes just built?  It wasn't tentpole; just had the courage of its convictions then benefitted from excellent word of mouth.

I think the smaller promo budget could work in Dredd's favour.  A short, intense campaign for a nasty little film that'll kick you in the balls.  A few quick shots of ultra-violence; one line from Dredd (or even just a scowl); wrapped up with spectacular slo-mo effect leading into the title card: DREDD

No grand pretense. This film will rock. People will go and if it's good then more people will go.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 08 June, 2012, 11:24:08 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 08 June, 2012, 11:11:18 AM
Well, we get the best picture of Dredd ever, is that enough?

Yup, that pic'll do me for a while!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 08 June, 2012, 11:31:02 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 08 June, 2012, 11:11:18 AM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 08 June, 2012, 10:29:44 AM
...we've still got the 'exciting news' to come, right? RIGHT?

WHERE'S THE EXCITING NEWS??!!

Well, we get the best picture of Dredd ever, is that enough?

Well, it is lovely but the 2000 AD Facebook page ran that picture and catagorically stated that it wasn't the promised 'exciting news'.

That means there's something else due to happen...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 08 June, 2012, 11:34:07 AM
It was pretty exciting though. If that had been released as the first shot instead of the one we got, this thread would be 50 pages shorter :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 08 June, 2012, 11:48:09 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 08 June, 2012, 11:34:07 AM
It was pretty exciting though. If that had been released as the first shot instead of the one we got, this thread would be 50 pages shorter :D

You're joking, right?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 08 June, 2012, 11:56:54 AM
I wonder what the page count will jump to on the same day that the trailer comes out?  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 12:02:01 PM
Don't worry the site will be down when it comes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 08 June, 2012, 12:05:32 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 12:02:01 PM
Don't worry the site will be down when it comes.

Don't tempt me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 June, 2012, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 08 June, 2012, 12:05:32 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 12:02:01 PM
Don't worry the site will be down when it comes.

Don't tempt me.

lol! Someone give the Molch-R Droid some premium oil hes fading fast!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 12:14:44 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 08 June, 2012, 12:05:32 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 12:02:01 PM
Don't worry the site will be down when it comes.

Don't tempt me.


Do it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 08 June, 2012, 12:42:17 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 12:14:44 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 08 June, 2012, 12:05:32 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 12:02:01 PM
Don't worry the site will be down when it comes.

Don't tempt me.


Do it!

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Bpf5vFw-XUE/TLOZHHRRlDI/AAAAAAAAAK4/BCZyOHJIR3U/s1600/Rorschach2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 08 June, 2012, 12:56:00 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 08 June, 2012, 12:42:17 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 12:14:44 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 08 June, 2012, 12:05:32 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 12:02:01 PM
Don't worry the site will be down when it comes.

Don't tempt me.


Do it!

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Bpf5vFw-XUE/TLOZHHRRlDI/AAAAAAAAAK4/BCZyOHJIR3U/s1600/Rorschach2.jpg)

Hahahaha! That is effin brilliant, but you have just destroyed Watchmen for me forevermore!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 June, 2012, 12:57:22 PM
I don't think the trailer will be attached to a film. Not debuting anyway. It is way cheaper for them to just put it on youtube, and more people will see it.

The dredd page already has 30,000 followers, plus all the movie sites that will share the trailer, it will spread like wildfire.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 08 June, 2012, 01:18:12 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 08 June, 2012, 11:48:09 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 08 June, 2012, 11:34:07 AM
It was pretty exciting though. If that had been released as the first shot instead of the one we got, this thread would be 50 pages shorter :D

You're joking, right?

Spot on Stacey. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 June, 2012, 01:54:59 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 June, 2012, 12:57:22 PM
I don't think the trailer will be attached to a film. Not debuting anyway. It is way cheaper for them to just put it on youtube, and more people will see it.

The dredd page already has 30,000 followers, plus all the movie sites that will share the trailer, it will spread like wildfire.

Indeed. I'm not paying 15 quid to watch a trailer anyway. If it happens to be attached to a film I'm already seeing then that's just an added bonus.

It'll be attached to the internet. That's all I need to know.  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 08 June, 2012, 02:01:43 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 June, 2012, 12:57:22 PM
I don't think the trailer will be attached to a film. Not debuting anyway. It is way cheaper for them to just put it on youtube, and more people will see it.

Does this actually happen? I know Dredd isn't a big Hollywood blockbuster but surely the trailer will be shown in cinemas won't it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 June, 2012, 02:14:33 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 08 June, 2012, 12:42:17 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 12:14:44 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 08 June, 2012, 12:05:32 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 12:02:01 PM
Don't worry the site will be down when it comes.

Don't tempt me.
Ho! Well played.

Do it!

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Bpf5vFw-XUE/TLOZHHRRlDI/AAAAAAAAAK4/BCZyOHJIR3U/s1600/Rorschach2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
I'd say Molcher has a shrivelled blue penis too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 June, 2012, 02:19:44 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 08 June, 2012, 02:01:43 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 June, 2012, 12:57:22 PM
I don't think the trailer will be attached to a film. Not debuting anyway. It is way cheaper for them to just put it on youtube, and more people will see it.

Does this actually happen? I know Dredd isn't a big Hollywood blockbuster but surely the trailer will be shown in cinemas won't it?

I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be shown in cinemas. There's a decent chance it could debut on the web though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 June, 2012, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 08 June, 2012, 02:01:43 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 June, 2012, 12:57:22 PM
I don't think the trailer will be attached to a film. Not debuting anyway. It is way cheaper for them to just put it on youtube, and more people will see it.

Does this actually happen? I know Dredd isn't a big Hollywood blockbuster but surely the trailer will be shown in cinemas won't it?

I can't imagine it wouldn't get shown in cinemas as it's getting a theatrical release, especially because of the 3D angle where they have a captive audience who can actually see it in 3D without buying 3D monitors/glasses.

There was a trailer for some UK film which looked shoestring budget in front of Prometheus for example.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 08 June, 2012, 02:45:59 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
I'd say Molcher has a shrivelled blue penis too.

:eh:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 08 June, 2012, 02:48:10 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
I'd say Molcher has a shrivelled blue penis too.

Only when it's cold.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 June, 2012, 02:55:37 PM
I am not sure how it works exactly, but I think it will be more a case of cinemas that will be screening it will show the trailers for it?

I know this is how it works at the cinema I work at as it is small and only has one screen so can't screen all films that are out so no point advertising something that you won't be showing.

Though I hope we will be showing it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 03:13:58 PM
Dredd will be opening nationwide in both U.S. & the U.K. and all across Europe so there should be plenty of chances to see it plus there'll be T.V. spots -this is where the money needs to go not on internet campaigns aimed at geeks- so there really is nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 03:14:52 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 08 June, 2012, 02:48:10 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
I'd say Molcher has a shrivelled blue penis too.

Only when it's cold.


It's cold up there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 08 June, 2012, 03:20:30 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 03:14:52 PM
It's cold up there.

Nah, that bit's a lot nearer to the ground.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 08 June, 2012, 03:23:17 PM
So...

Was there supposed to be some news announced today?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 08 June, 2012, 03:20:30 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 03:14:52 PM
It's cold up there.

Nah, that bit's a lot nearer to the ground.


The cream worked!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 08 June, 2012, 03:26:44 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 08 June, 2012, 02:48:10 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
I'd say Molcher has a shrivelled blue penis too.

Only when it's cold.

We've already got a Small Blue Thing on the board thank you very much.

To anyone just tuning in for the latest Dredd movie news, we're just discussing Molcher's penis.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 08 June, 2012, 03:30:56 PM
Well I'm off to see JAWS next sat so I'll let ye know if it's there...not holding my breath though...that pic will keep me going a week or two anyway
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 08 June, 2012, 04:00:39 PM
 Well. :D

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 June, 2012, 04:13:17 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 08 June, 2012, 03:23:17 PM
So...

Was there supposed to be some news announced today?

The only thing I'm aware of specific to today is what the Dredd page guy(s) said in response to the infamous Darren bashing their blank profile pic..

"Darren, when we have officially approved photos, we will. Look for them Friday."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 June, 2012, 04:28:22 PM
Quote from: Stan on 08 June, 2012, 04:13:17 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 08 June, 2012, 03:23:17 PM
So...

Was there supposed to be some news announced today?

The only thing I'm aware of specific to today is what the Dredd page guy(s) said in response to the infamous Darren bashing their blank profile pic..

"Darren, when we have officially approved photos, we will. Look for them Friday."

Its Friday and any pics ? Im taking it this was this Friday ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 June, 2012, 04:35:31 PM
It's the Friday of the premier showing of the film!  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 June, 2012, 05:21:50 PM
Nah, no pics. Though I suppose there's still a quarter of the day left. :-[
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 08 June, 2012, 05:29:25 PM
It's only lunch time in the states, isn't it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 08 June, 2012, 05:54:51 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/252376_439768342713686_87424018_n.jpg)

SPUNK!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 June, 2012, 05:55:15 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s720x720/252376_439768342713686_87424018_n.jpg)

ooh nice :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 08 June, 2012, 06:00:12 PM
Spiffy and dark. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 08 June, 2012, 06:02:35 PM
You have to applaud the misinformation machine. That title is a complete pleasant surprise.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 June, 2012, 06:04:50 PM
Nice. Moody. Dark.

Gives a good impression that the uniform is Dredd, the helmet is his face.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 08 June, 2012, 06:08:43 PM
Love it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: doggettX on 08 June, 2012, 06:09:51 PM
Thats fantastic.

:D

It really is happening. For real.
Totally real. No longer a dream or vague notion.

I want to buy that poster...

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 June, 2012, 06:12:22 PM
Powerful Typeface and perhaps the Red colour indicates the Vorhoeven levels of gore the Movie apparently has.

Where's this from?  Not wanting to put a dampener on things but is this the Official Poster?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 08 June, 2012, 06:14:13 PM
It's from the official Facebook page, so I guess it's the real deal.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 08 June, 2012, 06:14:44 PM
It's the banner on the facebook page. The poster will probably look similar.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 June, 2012, 06:15:56 PM
I'm not sure I like the inclusion of Dredd (or how they presented it at least) but I do like the tagline.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 June, 2012, 06:17:20 PM
Beautiful!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 06:19:08 PM
Font: Agency FB bold? Been using it a lot myself on programmes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 June, 2012, 06:20:25 PM
It probably shouldn't bother me, but I wish the text was centred though. They should just have dredd in the profile pic I think.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 08 June, 2012, 06:26:03 PM
That looks noice. Moody, dark, cool tagline. The image of Dredd focuses on his most recognisable physical attributes to draw in the casuals.

I'm sold. Now a TRAILER PLEASE.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 08 June, 2012, 06:26:42 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 08 June, 2012, 06:08:43 PM
Love it!

+1
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 08 June, 2012, 06:27:41 PM
Thicko alert....Whats the diff between 3D and REAL 3D? is it a cinema projection thingy or with the way its filmed rather than converted?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 06:28:35 PM
Just different systems used in cinemas in relation to the glasses.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 June, 2012, 06:29:25 PM
I just played around with positioning, and I think like this looks better.

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2en721k.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 08 June, 2012, 06:30:09 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 06:19:08 PM
Font: Agency FB bold? Been using it a lot myself on programmes.

Ah, Winning Streak...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 June, 2012, 06:30:40 PM
Oh, nevermind, they have just posted a poster! :D

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/exclusive-first-poster-for-the-new-comic-adaptation-dredd-with-karl-urban-arrives
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 08 June, 2012, 06:31:46 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 06:28:35 PM
Just different systems used in cinemas in relation to the glasses.
Ahh,thanks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 June, 2012, 06:31:48 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 June, 2012, 06:29:25 PM
I just played around with positioning, and I think like this looks better.

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2en721k.jpg)

That wouldn't fit a Facebook cover image though.

The banner looks ok, but I'm not blown away. Hope the theatrical poster is a lot better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 08 June, 2012, 06:32:32 PM
Thers a new poster up on the FB page...another new one
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 08 June, 2012, 06:32:33 PM
(http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/Dreddimage_2_big.jpg)

That's New.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 06:33:16 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 08 June, 2012, 06:30:09 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 06:19:08 PM
Font: Agency FB bold? Been using it a lot myself on programmes.

Ah, Winning Streak...


Heh, nah..."Life & Debt" and "TRUCKERS" (not out yet). If they ever allow me on Winning Streak, I 'll rig it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 06:34:22 PM
Ooooooohhhh...


Pretty!

Love the poster :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 06:34:26 PM
Am I in heaven?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 08 June, 2012, 06:35:16 PM
That three-quarter length-poster is magnificent.  And I like the look of the City (if not the Pat Wagons).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 June, 2012, 06:35:35 PM
Mega city looks cool - more futuristic than I'd imagined...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 08 June, 2012, 06:35:54 PM
Was about to post that-stunning!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 June, 2012, 06:36:10 PM
AWESOME!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 06:36:22 PM
(http://www.joblo.com/posters/images/full/Dredd_poster_big.jpg)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 08 June, 2012, 06:36:45 PM
Shit the bed.
Thats ace.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 June, 2012, 06:36:55 PM
Wow at the poster, could anyone post it as I am mobile!

http://m.joblo.com/joblo/news/42706 (http://m.joblo.com/joblo/news/42706)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 08 June, 2012, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 08 June, 2012, 06:32:33 PM
(http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/Dreddimage_2_big.jpg)

That's New.

Look to the left in the sky..is that a flying thing?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 June, 2012, 06:37:40 PM
Sternhammer block - nice! And is that Eustace... Fargo we can see there?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 June, 2012, 06:37:49 PM
(http://www.joblo.com/posters/images/full/Dredd_poster_big.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 08 June, 2012, 06:39:13 PM
I've got a semi for that lawgiver
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 08 June, 2012, 06:39:31 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 08 June, 2012, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 08 June, 2012, 06:32:33 PM
(http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/Dreddimage_2_big.jpg)

That's New.

Look to the left in the sky..is that a flying thing?!

Yep There are  some kind of flying vehicles.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 08 June, 2012, 06:39:43 PM
I like that this one could be straight out of Day of Chaos:

(http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/dreddimage_1_big.jpg)

Totally love the eagle pad.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 June, 2012, 06:42:22 PM
We are being spoilt! Wowsers, looking exceptionally good those piccies. Promotion for Molch-R Droid! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 08 June, 2012, 06:45:22 PM
Poster looks bloody awesome.
But jesus, it's just up and already some of you are complaining and knocking up your own 'better' versions! Is it any fucking wonder we don't get any info on here?
Sorry to sound of, and if this offends you, well, sorry about that, too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 08 June, 2012, 06:46:59 PM
Quote from: radiator on 08 June, 2012, 06:37:40 PM
Sternhammer block - nice! And is that Eustace... Fargo we can see there?

I think it says Pete... something.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 08 June, 2012, 06:47:50 PM
Shall I `go the whole way` or shall I continue pacing myself in the hope that a trailer suddenly hits tonight?? :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 08 June, 2012, 06:48:59 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 08 June, 2012, 06:46:59 PM
Quote from: radiator on 08 June, 2012, 06:37:40 PM
Sternhammer block - nice! And is that Eustace... Fargo we can see there?

I think it says Pete... something.

Doherty....YES!I can see it, "Pete Doherty Block"where Slo-Mo first hits! ;)

Only kidding Mr Wells  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 June, 2012, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 08 June, 2012, 06:45:22 PM
Poster looks bloody awesome.
But jesus, it's just up and already some of you are complaining and knocking up your own 'better' versions! Is it any fucking wonder we don't get any info on here?
Sorry to sound of, and if this offends you, well, sorry about that, too.

Um?

Seems like an overwhelmingly positive reaction with only a couple of reservations.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 08 June, 2012, 06:50:43 PM
Looks a bit like cloud city and is it me or does it look like the out side of the building is already a few hundred floor up.Looks like the tops of buildings just poking up in front.Gives a nice sense of scale to the big blocks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 06:55:14 PM
You think YOU have a semi for that Lawgiver?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 June, 2012, 06:56:07 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 08 June, 2012, 06:36:45 PM
Shit the bed.
Thats ace.
Hah!...a very good Friday evening! Wonderful view...and I dig the pat-wagons, it connects us...we're not in Star Wars...it's the immediate future. Couldn't be a better image to see than that MC1...and that poster is the witches tits.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 08 June, 2012, 06:56:30 PM
I like the fact that there are cranes in the background-Mega City One under construction, more to see in the sequel  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 08 June, 2012, 06:56:39 PM
Fucking hell. There's a manly lump in the throat looking at that shot of Mega City One. Fuck me sideways. I love it! I LOVE IT!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 08 June, 2012, 06:56:49 PM
Bet you feeling on top o the world right now,sweet gun  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 08 June, 2012, 06:57:22 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 06:55:14 PM
You think YOU have a semi for that Lawgiver?

Only a semi??
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 08 June, 2012, 06:57:44 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 08 June, 2012, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 08 June, 2012, 06:45:22 PM
Poster looks bloody awesome.
But jesus, it's just up and already some of you are complaining and knocking up your own 'better' versions! Is it any fucking wonder we don't get any info on here?
Sorry to sound of, and if this offends you, well, sorry about that, too.

Um?

Seems like an overwhelmingly positive reaction with only a couple of reservations.

I know, I know, but the whole 'I know better' attitude that some fans have, and not just here, but on any forum, does my nut in.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 June, 2012, 06:58:38 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 08 June, 2012, 06:46:59 PM
Quote from: radiator on 08 June, 2012, 06:37:40 PM
Sternhammer block - nice! And is that Eustace... Fargo we can see there?

I think it says Pete... something.

HAHA!...never satisfied!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 08 June, 2012, 06:59:33 PM
Dear god! Those are some impressive stills, and that view of MC-1, looks like the future to me :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 June, 2012, 07:00:00 PM
That is a very real, sober, looking mega-city, people. Brilliant.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 June, 2012, 07:00:08 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 08 June, 2012, 06:57:44 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 08 June, 2012, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 08 June, 2012, 06:45:22 PM
Poster looks bloody awesome.
But jesus, it's just up and already some of you are complaining and knocking up your own 'better' versions! Is it any fucking wonder we don't get any info on here?
Sorry to sound of, and if this offends you, well, sorry about that, too.

Um?

Seems like an overwhelmingly positive reaction with only a couple of reservations.

I know, I know, but the whole 'I know better' attitude that some fans have, and not just here, but on any forum, does my nut in.

Was only in regards to the facebook timeline positioning. I think it looks bloody fantastic though!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 08 June, 2012, 07:00:39 PM
Love the Mega-cityscape. Looks... plausible, and yes, definite work in progress vibe going on.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 June, 2012, 07:02:06 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 08 June, 2012, 06:46:59 PM
Quote from: radiator on 08 June, 2012, 06:37:40 PM
Sternhammer block - nice! And is that Eustace... Fargo we can see there?

I think it says Pete... something.

Yeah its Eustace :) Cant see the other two though. Gives a real sense to me now that the film is just around the corner. Going to have to change my third pair of synthi-pantsTM already.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 07:02:54 PM
The poster now happily lives on my monitor's desktop.. Dammit.. I've read the script, drawn a few pics, watched them film it and hoiked and operated rather large props on set.. Buttfuck.. I can't wait to see this..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 07:05:03 PM
This poster says "To all the fuckers who begrudged the Judge: FUCK YOU".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 08 June, 2012, 07:06:01 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 08 June, 2012, 06:39:31 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 08 June, 2012, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 08 June, 2012, 06:32:33 PM
(http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/Dreddimage_2_big.jpg)

That's New.

Look to the left in the sky..is that a flying thing?!


Yep There are  some kind of flying vehicles.

Looks a bit like it may be a bird in the sky...?

Also looks like quite a pleasant day in MC-1, I guess they wouldn't have developed weather control yet?

Love the fact that all this news comes towards the end of Friday on the wet side of the pond.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 June, 2012, 07:06:29 PM
I don't think it is hundreds of floors up, there aren't any suspended roadways so it doesn't make much sense having vehicles stuck way up there for a police force.

As for the buildings - they're a nice extension of the actual architecture - McMahon curvy buildings wouldn't work here - I must admit I expected it to be a more crowded skyline, but I guess they want to draw attention to the block size in comparison to the regular buildings at the base.

Has a good unshowy late 70s vibe.

Oh and I think that flying vehicle might be a seagull.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 08 June, 2012, 07:06:34 PM
You must be so happy now , Michael , now that the images are coming out and you you can speak more freely!
What does the writing say on the Lawgiver? I can't quite read it other than 'SEMI'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 June, 2012, 07:07:15 PM
The city Panorama shot looks great. The Blocks look like slightly futuristic Skyscrapers similar to contemporary High rise buildings today.

I assume the lone Judge walking towards us is Karl Urbans Judge Dredd and those other Judges look like Nazi Stormtroopers from the 1930's moving towards one of their concrete bunkers. They'll be no pretense that this Movie is about 'freedom' or 'growth' something the 1995 Movie was very much mistaken in mentioning.

Its Urban brutalism made to look almost 'normal' just another day for Mega Cities Lawmen turning up for work. Fantastic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 07:10:50 PM
I'm pretty hazy on what it says.. It has been well over a year since I had to figure out what's on there.. But basically it's supposed to show weapon safety status, fire mode and what rounds are selected and how many are remaining.. As far as I can remember..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mike Carroll on 08 June, 2012, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 June, 2012, 07:07:15 PM
I assume the lone Judge walking towards us is Karl Urbans Judge Dredd ...

Looks to me like he's walking away from us: Lawgiver in his right hand, holster on his right thigh... Plus we can see the soles of his boots!

-- Mike
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 08 June, 2012, 07:12:40 PM
Wonder what `that c**t`will do when he sees the pics?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 08 June, 2012, 07:12:56 PM
QuoteI don't think it is hundreds of floors up, there aren't any suspended roadways so it doesn't make much sense having vehicles stuck way up there for a police force.

It could be high up, if you look at the building with the large screen on top, it seems to disappear into shadow as if it drops down well below the height the shot is taken from. Just my perspective.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 08 June, 2012, 07:13:57 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 08 June, 2012, 07:12:40 PM
Wonder what `that c**t`will do when he sees the pics?!

He's already slagging it off on IMDB.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 07:15:55 PM
IMDB doesn't count. It holds as much merit as YouTube comments..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 June, 2012, 07:16:17 PM
Man, just looking at that city shot again, and with the cars and judges in the back ground. They've nailed it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 08 June, 2012, 07:16:27 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 08 June, 2012, 07:13:57 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 08 June, 2012, 07:12:40 PM
Wonder what `that c**t`will do when he sees the pics?!

He's already slagging it off on IMDB.

C**T!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 June, 2012, 07:16:51 PM
Quote from: Mike Carroll on 08 June, 2012, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 June, 2012, 07:07:15 PM
I assume the lone Judge walking towards us is Karl Urbans Judge Dredd ...
Looks to me like he's walking away from us: Lawgiver in his right hand, holster on his right thigh... Plus we can see the soles of his boots!
-- Mike

Your right I was to excited to notice!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 June, 2012, 07:17:08 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 08 June, 2012, 07:12:56 PM
QuoteI don't think it is hundreds of floors up, there aren't any suspended roadways so it doesn't make much sense having vehicles stuck way up there for a police force.

It could be high up, if you look at the building with the large screen on top, it seems to disappear into shadow as if it drops down well below the height the shot is taken from. Just my perspective.

Yeah, you're probably right - no wonder they have a crime-wave, takes them half an hour to get to ground level.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 08 June, 2012, 07:18:12 PM
QuoteLooks a bit like it may be a bird in the sky...?


Yeah that one looks like a bird but there are other flying objects in the distance.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 07:18:36 PM
It's all about context.. On their own in brutal daylight, they look awful.. When properly shot and composed.. You get the above mentioned image.. Told you so :p
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 08 June, 2012, 07:19:07 PM
Only upon close inspection I'm getting the scale of this. The vehicle in the centre has what I thought was a container box behind but it's actually a building which REALLY makes Sternhammer block look gigantic. This couldn't be better and one other thing that's really been growing on me is the Drokk soundtrack. Play it with thiese images and this movie's really going to have it's own identity way different than any of the other comic offerings. Can't wait. I don't know what the fuck I'm going to do until September especially as I have to wait two fucking weeks longer than most of you guys...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 08 June, 2012, 07:19:19 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 08 June, 2012, 07:12:56 PM
QuoteI don't think it is hundreds of floors up, there aren't any suspended roadways so it doesn't make much sense having vehicles stuck way up there for a police force.

It could be high up, if you look at the building with the large screen on top, it seems to disappear into shadow as if it drops down well below the height the shot is taken from. Just my perspective.
Maybe hundreds was a little the top,but you kinda get my drift,50 floors or so...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 07:20:04 PM
Considering they're supposed to be 200 floors high -higher than the tallest building in the world in Dubai- it looks like there's streets in the sky.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 08 June, 2012, 07:22:40 PM
Incredible, looks really fantastic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 08 June, 2012, 07:25:41 PM
That must be a shot from within the Halls of Justice. But it could be a Sector House too. There's a distinctive MadMax resonance in the in house shot that brings a feeling of full circle and step outside of that feeling when you see the perps are of a very urban dress. Not so primal.

Then there's that Lawgiver. Excellent work MVK and crew. I love that near analogue radio station, frequency finder style settings block on it and terrific overall design.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 07:27:49 PM
Quote from: George Dread on 08 June, 2012, 07:25:41 PM
That must be a shot from within the Halls of Justice.


[spoiler]It's Peach Trees Block.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 08 June, 2012, 07:30:26 PM
Maybe the roads etc are actually below what we see in that shot?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 June, 2012, 07:31:53 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 08 June, 2012, 07:30:26 PM
Maybe the roads etc are actually below what we see in that shot?

Yeah I think they must be, if you look at the car directly in front of dredd you can see at the tail end of it, there is a the top of a sky scraper at the same level, so they must be very high up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 08 June, 2012, 07:32:53 PM
They seem to be quite positive over at AICN's about the poster which is as rare as rocking horse shit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 08 June, 2012, 07:35:53 PM
Hmmm the more I look at that block shot..the more it looks like an artists impression?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 07:37:36 PM
Nope. That's the real deal.. It's also not 2K resolution.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Emperor on 08 June, 2012, 07:37:53 PM
Cracking poster, in fact it all looks great.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 07:38:48 PM
"Now where did I put that Lawmaster photo?".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 08 June, 2012, 07:43:26 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 June, 2012, 07:38:48 PM
"Now where did I put that Lawmaster photo?".

http://i1-store.walmart.ca/images/WMTCNPE/935/155/935155_Enlarged_1.jpeg

Sorry, did I mis-read your post? :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 08 June, 2012, 07:44:41 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 07:37:36 PM
Nope. That's the real deal.. It's also not 2K resolution.

I think it doesn't help that I'm looking at it on an iPhone  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 08 June, 2012, 07:49:34 PM
Looks great !

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 08 June, 2012, 07:51:36 PM
Well, those pics and the poster are shite.


Who am I ferkin kidding - THEY'RE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

I really make a habit of not doing this, but heck, it's a special occasion:

SQUUUEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 08 June, 2012, 07:53:57 PM
Typing in #Dredd on Twitter brings up some VERY positive comments  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: clavell on 08 June, 2012, 07:58:16 PM
Liking the city shot :D

- C
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 June, 2012, 08:04:58 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 08 June, 2012, 07:32:53 PM
They seem to be quite positive over at AICN's about the poster which is as rare as rocking horse shit.

They have said in the past they didnt really "get" nor like Dredd. Lets hope this has converted them.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 June, 2012, 08:07:01 PM
Just clocked these beauties on Facebook ... By Grud they're awesome!  Love the developing skyline of a growing Meg not quite big yet. The poster is awesome minus any shitey photoshoppery and lens flares. Its just pure noir lighting and looks amazing.  One thing ... DREDD holding gun with his left hand in the poster.  He is expert enough to shoot with both with equal accuracy but l thought his firing arm was right handed?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 08 June, 2012, 08:08:33 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 08 June, 2012, 08:07:01 PM
Just clocked these beauties on Facebook ... By Grud they're awesome!  Love the developing skyline of a growing Meg not quite big yet. The poster is awesome minus any shitey photoshoppery and lens flares. Its just pure noir lighting and looks amazing.  One thing ... DREDD holding gun with his left hand in the poster.  He is expert enough to shoot with both with equal accuracy but l thought his firing arm was right handed?

Judges are trained to be ambidextrous.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buttonman on 08 June, 2012, 08:09:02 PM
'Sternhammer Block' - lovin' it! Getting a real bit excited about this and not just because 'Real 3-D' means I can save £1 with my 'Avatar' glasses!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 June, 2012, 08:11:38 PM
Seems like it's more of a design choice, they want the badge to be readable, so it's got to be viewed from that side, although the eagle pad side is probably more interesting visually.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 June, 2012, 08:14:11 PM
The poster seems to be getting an overwhelmingly positive reception around the web - very heartening to see this movie finally getting some positive buzz!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 08:17:36 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 08 June, 2012, 08:08:33 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 08 June, 2012, 08:07:01 PM
Just clocked these beauties on Facebook ... By Grud they're awesome!  Love the developing skyline of a growing Meg not quite big yet. The poster is awesome minus any shitey photoshoppery and lens flares. Its just pure noir lighting and looks amazing.  One thing ... DREDD holding gun with his left hand in the poster.  He is expert enough to shoot with both with equal accuracy but l thought his firing arm was right handed?

Judges are trained to be ambidextrous.

That and the other side is a bit bland in comparison..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 08 June, 2012, 08:18:36 PM
I'm sort of shocked there isn't more reaction to the wheeled vehicles in that Mega-City 1 shot. Contemporary trucks do not strike me as 'post-atomic war cyberpunk dystopia nightmare'

Also the skyline doesn't look nearly choked out by buildings that can hold the population of a small city enough.

Now I'm not saying it looks BAD, I'm just saying my first impression for the presentation of Mega-City 1 doesn't feel nearly overwhelming enough. At the very least Stallone Dredd got that right.

I hope 'boring looking wheeled trucks' was Wagner's 'minor complaint at the beginning' when he got to watch the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Toni Scandella on 08 June, 2012, 08:20:14 PM
This looks much more awesome than I ever dared to hope.  Truly, truly excited now!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 June, 2012, 08:21:39 PM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 08 June, 2012, 08:18:36 PM
I'm sort of shocked there isn't more reaction to the wheeled vehicles in that Mega-City 1 shot. Contemporary trucks do not strike me as 'post-atomic war cyberpunk dystopia nightmare'

Also the skyline doesn't look nearly choked out by buildings that can hold the population of a small city enough.

Now I'm not saying it looks BAD, I'm just saying my first impression for the presentation of Mega-City 1 doesn't feel nearly overwhelming enough. At the very least Stallone Dredd got that right.

I hope 'boring looking wheeled trucks' was Wagner's 'minor complaint at the beginning' when he got to watch the film.

We've all known about the use of modern day vehicles for a long time - that's why it hasn't really been remarked upon.

And yes, the vehicles were Wagner's only remaining 'quibble' - but everything else he didn't like has been addressed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 June, 2012, 08:27:28 PM
So, the 'Judgment is coming' tag line confirms that the leaked badge/blood splatter teaser poster was indeed genuine, though it was probably a mockup.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 08:30:57 PM
You know, re the raised roads.. (I'm as much in the dark as you chaps, so I'm guesstimating here..) .. As someone stated above, there does appear to be plenty of building below the level of what we can see.. Considering they're so established in the comics, I have no doubt they're in the movie..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 June, 2012, 08:31:47 PM
I'm a right cock   :( ... It's just dawned on me the badge is only visible from that side.  Yes the shot from the other side would be less dynamic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 08:36:28 PM
..you'de get the eagle though..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 June, 2012, 08:37:09 PM
Raised roads/skeds are mentioned in the script - described as 'ribbons' of road connecting the blocks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 June, 2012, 08:37:35 PM
Thanks Mr Green for explaining the left handed observation.  I didn't spot your reply way back until now!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 June, 2012, 08:39:39 PM
Yep. The eagle is no slouch in the interesting detail department.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 June, 2012, 08:40:33 PM
I meant to quote Michael but apparently I'm a bit slow.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 June, 2012, 08:42:07 PM
Eagle side would look cool too.  Maybe 2000ad could do a double page spread of the poster side by side.  One revealing badge other showing eagle! ... Oh!  to dream!  :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 June, 2012, 08:42:22 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 08 June, 2012, 08:37:35 PM
Thanks Mr Green for explaining the left handed observation.  I didn't spot your reply way back until now!

No problem.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 June, 2012, 08:44:39 PM
At a glance I saw a few aerial vehicles...not sure that's a gull, more like a twin prop plane (I think)...and the scene is defo very high up, beneath SH block there's many a smaller building. This means a much more crowded perspective may well open up as judges descend the skedways.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 June, 2012, 08:46:56 PM
There was a photo floating about somewhere with workmen on a skedway im sure.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mario Di Giacomo on 08 June, 2012, 08:57:24 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 08 June, 2012, 07:06:34 PM
You must be so happy now , Michael , now that the images are coming out and you you can speak more freely!
What does the writing say on the Lawgiver? I can't quite read it other than 'SEMI'

Looks like they may be ammo counters.  It's blurry, but it looks like:

0.0.0|00ap|03??|021x|051ml

ap = armour-piercing?
The others would be other ammo type.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 09:07:32 PM
Quote from: bewareofgeek on 08 June, 2012, 08:57:24 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 08 June, 2012, 07:06:34 PM
You must be so happy now , Michael , now that the images are coming out and you you can speak more freely!
What does the writing say on the Lawgiver? I can't quite read it other than 'SEMI'

Looks like they may be ammo counters.  It's blurry, but it looks like:

0.0.0|00ap|03??|021x|051ml

ap = armour-piercing?
The others would be other ammo type.

Yup.. Armour piercing, High explosive and incendiary, if I recall correctly.. Oh, and standard 9mm.. I think ..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mario Di Giacomo on 08 June, 2012, 09:09:37 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 09:07:32 PM
Quote from: bewareofgeek on 08 June, 2012, 08:57:24 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 08 June, 2012, 07:06:34 PM
You must be so happy now , Michael , now that the images are coming out and you you can speak more freely!
What does the writing say on the Lawgiver? I can't quite read it other than 'SEMI'

Looks like they may be ammo counters.  It's blurry, but it looks like:

0.0.0|00ap|03??|021x|051ml

ap = armour-piercing?
The others would be other ammo type.

Yup.. Armour piercing, High explosive and incendiary, if I recall correctly.. Oh, and standard 9mm.. I think ..

Cool.  You wouldn't happen to remember the actual abbreviations used. would you?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 08 June, 2012, 09:09:44 PM
No double whammy? For shame :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 08 June, 2012, 09:12:09 PM
"Things are getting rough, Anderson. We'd better set our lawgivers to MAGIC."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mario Di Giacomo on 08 June, 2012, 09:15:09 PM
I'm guessing the ?? might be "in" for incendiary.  Using "x" for explosive makes some sense... "ml" for standard execution... less so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 09:21:28 PM
Quote from: bewareofgeek on 08 June, 2012, 09:09:37 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 09:07:32 PM
Quote from: bewareofgeek on 08 June, 2012, 08:57:24 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 08 June, 2012, 07:06:34 PM
You must be so happy now , Michael , now that the images are coming out and you you can speak more freely!
What does the writing say on the Lawgiver? I can't quite read it other than 'SEMI'

Looks like they may be ammo counters.  It's blurry, but it looks like:

0.0.0|00ap|03??|021x|051ml

ap = armour-piercing?
The others would be other ammo type.

Yup.. Armour piercing, High explosive and incendiary, if I recall correctly.. Oh, and standard 9mm.. I think ..

Cool.  You wouldn't happen to remember the actual abbreviations used. would you?

Alas not.. AP.. INC?.. HE...? As I said.. Bit fuzzy on it nowadays..

No double whammy..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 09:25:53 PM
Found an animation...

D:0.0 | 25 AP 25 INC 25HE 150FMJ

I -think- the D:0.0 is the distance to target.. AP is armour piercing, INC is incendiary, HE is high explosive and FMJ is full metal jacket..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jay jay on 08 June, 2012, 09:28:07 PM
what did you find?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 09:31:16 PM
Calm down. It's not online, nor will it be.  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 08 June, 2012, 09:31:33 PM
 I'm more than happy with what I've seen so far. It's not comic book Dredd (I don't think it ever will be), but that's what we buy the prog and the meg for. The cityscape looks great and sits perfectly with the real world styling of the judges uniforms. The vehicles have wheels, so what, they're not the focus of the story. The teaser poster is just that, a tease. showing a bit of the helmet, a shoulder pad, the gun, and the badge. Dredd. The man himself is still in the shadows, much like the film. But, as the tag line announces, 'Judgement Is Coming' and by grud i'm looking forward to it. This might not be the Dredd film we would have liked, but it might just be the quality Dredd film we all need.

Stew. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: pauljholden on 08 June, 2012, 09:39:10 PM
I like it - poster and skyline shot (which, to me, looks like its way up on the air).  Buildings remind me of Ron Smiths buildings which were always more like enlarged skyscrapers than the odd rounded cities of mcmahons mgeacity1
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mario Di Giacomo on 08 June, 2012, 09:46:02 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 09:25:53 PM
Found an animation...

D:0.0 | 25 AP 25 INC 25HE 150FMJ

I -think- the D:0.0 is the distance to target.. AP is armour piercing, INC is incendiary, HE is high explosive and FMJ is full metal jacket..

Cheers.  I'm trying to make that match with the picture, and I just can't.  But I'm sure the movie will.  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darren1973 on 08 June, 2012, 09:59:34 PM
Poster and even more images here...

http://darrens-world-of-entertainment.blogspot.co.nz/2012/06/dredd-poster-revealed-and-more-images.html

first nothing, now heaps!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 June, 2012, 10:01:09 PM
Blimey nearly 250 pages! Be more in the region of 500 when the trailers due.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 08 June, 2012, 10:03:05 PM
 On the forward facing shot released on wednesday you can see what appears to be a gas grenade on Dredds belt. And in the picture of Dredd advancing while shooting up the stairs, he looks as if he is walking through a dispersing cloud of green gas.(Though his respirator seems to be up.) I wonder, could this be Stumm Gas?

Stew. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 10:07:00 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 June, 2012, 10:01:09 PM
Blimey nearly 250 pages! Be more in the region of 500 when the trailers due.

By the time the trailer hits most of us will be in a post orgasmic coma..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 08 June, 2012, 10:14:36 PM
Already am, Michael. Made my day, this stuff has...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 08 June, 2012, 10:15:24 PM
Loveing the poster and the city scape. This can do no wrong I tell ye.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 08 June, 2012, 10:23:54 PM
Quote from: darren1973 on 08 June, 2012, 09:59:34 PM
Poster and even more images here...

http://darrens-world-of-entertainment.blogspot.co.nz/2012/06/dredd-poster-revealed-and-more-images.html

first nothing, now heaps!

Have you even read the past few pages?!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 June, 2012, 10:29:52 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 08 June, 2012, 10:14:36 PM
Already am, Michael. Made my day, this stuff has...

Like Yoda, you talk.. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 08 June, 2012, 10:38:37 PM
You know Dredd in deep shadow makes me think of Jock's atmospheric artwork - I'd be surprised if the original sketch of the poster doesn't appear on his web page eventually.

I like the blocks being quite distinct from their appearance in the strips - they would seem to suit the film as we understand it, emphasising a dystopian near future rather than sci-fi adventure... as well as allowing more real world locations and making it disctince from the earlier film, pretty as the scenery was for that. They actually make me think of 1960s tower blocks, writ large? A film has less time to convey it's world, and I'm not sure there is much obvious logic in nuclear war leading hovercars.... which actually look a lot of fun. There's certainly no point in attempting to compete with the big budget fantasy movies.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 June, 2012, 10:50:20 PM
The wonderful picture of the Cityscape is packed with info'. I've not read the script and don't want to. The suited up low tech geezers in the distance maybe old guard rioters cops struggling to cope with the developing Megs crime rate!?  .... Enter the new judicial replacement,  .... Dredd and a new team of judges??



...Oh!  to dream!  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 08 June, 2012, 11:12:50 PM
Why is what should possibly be one of the most exciting threads on the board have turned out to be one of the longest and most boring.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 08 June, 2012, 11:32:24 PM
Well that pissed on everybody's chips.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 June, 2012, 11:42:37 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 08 June, 2012, 11:32:24 PM
Well that pissed on everybody's chips.

I kinda like soggy chips but not pissed on ones :|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 08 June, 2012, 11:42:56 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 08 June, 2012, 11:32:24 PM
Well that pissed on everybody's chips.

:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 08 June, 2012, 11:49:07 PM
Great poster. Very atmospheric. Makes Dredd look.... well a bit like a hollow suit really. An extension of the fact half his face is normally hidden, and it works very well.

As for the city-scape, while there is none of the curvaceous architecture of the comics, there is a touch of the comics flavour. Just in rectangular form. I know that probably comes across like a contradiction but I really see a kind of suggestion in their shapes, something about the width at the top. It's certainly not just a bunch of New York style skyscrapers.

Looks good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 08 June, 2012, 11:49:17 PM
Quote from: W. R. Logan on 08 June, 2012, 11:12:50 PM
Why is what should possibly be one of the most exciting threads on the board have turned out to be one of the longest and most boring.

Answers on a postcard to:

BBC Television centre
London
NW1 8TQ
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 June, 2012, 11:50:49 PM
Come on, we get new poster, two new pictures, I was exciting as was out in town tonight with friends cos of my birthday tomorrow. I notice those pictures on my mobile, wow, what is that! Is that enough? What needs to moans about? I can says it still brilliant and very excited till 7th Sept! It can be dark and brilliant! If any of you moans it if only few things, one thing, WHATEVER!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 08 June, 2012, 11:53:46 PM
Beautiful Poster *_* *6h late but who cares*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 09 June, 2012, 12:13:11 AM
Quote from: Mardroid on 08 June, 2012, 11:49:07 PM
Great poster. Very atmospheric. Makes Dredd look.... well a bit like a hollow suit really. An extension of the fact half his face is normally hidden, and it works very well.

...and nowhere on that poster is there even any indication of who's playing the role. Bit unusual.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 09 June, 2012, 12:26:40 AM
Quote from: M.I.K. on 09 June, 2012, 12:13:11 AM
Quote from: Mardroid on 08 June, 2012, 11:49:07 PM
Great poster. Very atmospheric. Makes Dredd look.... well a bit like a hollow suit really. An extension of the fact half his face is normally hidden, and it works very well.

...and nowhere on that poster is there even any indication of who's playing the role. Bit unusual.

It's Karl Urban.   ::)

:P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 09 June, 2012, 12:27:54 AM
Quote from: W. R. Logan on 08 June, 2012, 11:12:50 PM
Why is what should possibly be one of the most exciting threads on the board have turned out to be one of the longest and most boring.

Because.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 09 June, 2012, 12:38:09 AM
This is worse than The Political Thread.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 09 June, 2012, 12:41:47 AM
Quote from: Stan on 09 June, 2012, 12:27:54 AM
Quote from: W. R. Logan on 08 June, 2012, 11:12:50 PM
Why is what should possibly be one of the most exciting threads on the board have turned out to be one of the longest and most boring.

Because.
Boring is the new black.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 09 June, 2012, 01:00:51 AM
Quote from: M.I.K. on 09 June, 2012, 12:13:11 AM
...and nowhere on that poster is there even any indication of who's playing the role. Bit unusual.

Urban's not a star name and this isn't a star vehicle.

Why emphasise something that isn't a (particular) asset? Urban will make a fine Dredd, but the fact he doesn't bring the same star baggage as Stallone did is one of the best things this film has going for it.

The faceless aspect of the poster is making a virtue out of the unalterable fact that even if you had Brad Pitt or Robert DeNiro under that helmet their million dollar pusses would be unrecognisable. Whatever Urban's reasons for taking this role were, making his face more well known wasn't one of them.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 09 June, 2012, 01:02:19 AM
And yet it'll get him a ton of attention based on the fact he doesn't show his face.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 09 June, 2012, 01:07:27 AM
Quote from: W. R. Logan on 08 June, 2012, 11:12:50 PM
Why is what should possibly be one of the most exciting threads on the board have turned out to be one of the longest and most boring.
I dunno, maybe because, even in the aftermath of some much-anticipated and really rather cool imagery, some folk think the time is suddenly right to ignore the subject and instead comment on the thread itself?

Your comment annoys me, sir. Meanwhile, on-topic...this looks better than I had dared hope. The elements fit and even a passing tribute to the great Wulf Sternhammer demonstrates a heart-in-the-right-place factor which is worth it's weight in Stookie glands. Der stick could not be happier....matron. :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 09 June, 2012, 01:08:36 AM
All credit to Karl Urban for a) wanting to do the film b) actually having read Dredd c) keeping the helmet on and d) for not being a primadonna.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 09 June, 2012, 01:33:21 AM
Quote from: bikini kill on 09 June, 2012, 01:00:51 AM
Urban's not a star name and this isn't a star vehicle.

Why emphasise something that isn't a (particular) asset? Urban will make a fine Dredd, but the fact he doesn't bring the same star baggage as Stallone did is one of the best things this film has going for it.

The faceless aspect of the poster is making a virtue out of the unalterable fact that even if you had Brad Pitt or Robert DeNiro under that helmet their million dollar pusses would be unrecognisable. Whatever Urban's reasons for taking this role were, making his face more well known wasn't one of them.

I know.

Wasn't criticising it. I like it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JamesC on 09 June, 2012, 01:33:39 AM
Quote from: W. R. Logan on 08 June, 2012, 11:12:50 PM
Why is what should possibly be one of the most exciting threads on the board have turned out to be one of the longest and most boring.

Probably the same reason that one of the oldest posters, who's apparently a really big fan of Dredd and 2000ad, is such a negative and miserable sod - sometimes people will post anything to get a reaction.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 09 June, 2012, 01:36:22 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 09 June, 2012, 01:08:36 AM
All credit to Karl Urban for a) wanting to do the film b) actually having read Dredd c) keeping the helmet on and d) for not being a primadonna.

And kudos to the films producers.

When was the last time a film based on a comic actually had the writer as an adviser, and they took, and implemented, his advice?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 09 June, 2012, 01:38:24 AM
Boring? ..imho, this thread is the first source for all Dredd News. I mean, it is like having x-krillion eyes out on the internet and here it comes all together with sources and knowledge and references and almost in realtime.

@kowalsky and karl comment: *applause*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 June, 2012, 02:15:21 AM
Dredd is going to be the best film in the history of the universe. I can feel it in my socks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 09 June, 2012, 02:24:45 AM
If anyone would like one, I cut a nice Facebook banner for the new film from MC-1. Hope you like (as an apology for the shoulderpad debacle, lol)

(http://i.imgur.com/qUNUy.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 June, 2012, 02:33:18 AM
Quote from: W. R. Logan on 08 June, 2012, 11:12:50 PM
Why is what should possibly be one of the most exciting threads on the board have turned out to be one of the longest and most boring.



Have pity^, he's just lost an arm (again).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 June, 2012, 02:34:36 AM
Quote from: M.I.K. on 09 June, 2012, 12:13:11 AM
...and nowhere on that poster is there even any indication of who's playing the role. Bit unusual.


DREDD is the star.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 09 June, 2012, 02:37:08 AM
how about a nice little portrait to go with it :)

(http://i.imgur.com/3DqcT.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 09 June, 2012, 02:48:51 AM
Phew, having just trawled through nearly twenty pages of this thread just to catch up (late to the party as usual and everyone's already well drunk on giddiness), have to say a few things, will be to-the-point and brief;

1) Awesome teaser poster, LOVE the official logo, and Dredd in shadow, nice...

2) ABSOLUTELY LOVE the Mega-City One still, dear grud, that is gorgeous, not a single complaint about it, and I don't mind the paddy wagons, not one bit, gives it a nice futuristic retro look and feel that totally works...

3) Love the extended shot of Dredd in action, just a wider shot of one already seen, but I'll take it, great stuff...

Hearty congrats to everyone involved in the making of Dredd, this is going to be one HELL of not only a great movie but ONE HELL of a JUDGE DREDD movie... and that is the most exciting thing of all, oh, and for the person who said here that this may not be the Dredd film that everyone wants but it'll be the Dredd film that we need, speak for yourself mate, THIS IS the Dredd film that I at least very much want; gritty, greasy, grimy, visceral, violent, kinetic, bloody, brilliant, awesome, just my opinion anyway...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 June, 2012, 02:56:05 AM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 08 June, 2012, 08:18:36 PM

Also the skyline doesn't look nearly choked out by buildings that can hold the population of a small city enough.

Now I'm not saying it looks BAD, I'm just saying my first impression for the presentation of Mega-City 1 doesn't feel nearly overwhelming enough. At the very least Stallone Dredd got that right.


You're seeing MC-1 at its highest level, I'm sure below the highest buildings is an overcrowded hole of a place.

Quote from: The Adventurer on 08 June, 2012, 08:18:36 PM
I hope 'boring looking wheeled trucks' was Wagner's 'minor complaint at the beginning' when he got to watch the film.


He all ready said it was.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 June, 2012, 02:59:04 AM
Oh, in some ways I wished they didn't release all this stuff as now the excitement is un-containable!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 June, 2012, 03:06:36 AM
dredd is 97% on JoBlo's pimp o meter I think. I don't know what that means,but surely good for dredd awareness right?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 09 June, 2012, 03:09:00 AM
Its all good dude! These new images are just killing any negativity I've seen anywhere. Loving it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 June, 2012, 03:15:23 AM
Can we lose the "dudes". This is MC-1 not L.A.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 09 June, 2012, 03:18:24 AM
Wow, you're grumpy...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 June, 2012, 03:20:14 AM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 09 June, 2012, 03:18:24 AM
Wow, you're grumpy...


and I'm not even annoyed yet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 09 June, 2012, 03:20:25 AM
Man, everyone's favorite critic is mauling all this goodwill with a vengeance on aintitcool's forum. Wagner's been paid off to say good things about the movie, apparently and Alex Garland's a hack.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 June, 2012, 03:21:34 AM
and I've a feeling he's not too far away...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 09 June, 2012, 03:24:32 AM
You're assuming its me... aren't you? Would it ease your mind if I gave you my facebook page? would sort this out I guess.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 09 June, 2012, 03:24:53 AM
Can't keep up. Haha! He's like Sybil.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 09 June, 2012, 03:28:18 AM
I think Empire's assumption may be correct in the case of the Meg shot at least. It kinda makes sense to play it safe and grab something from the trailer. Especially if you have a record of releasing spoiler information with your photos.  >:( Though I suppose we were all under the impression we'd see a trailer soon anyway.

We're hopeful that the stills look like they've been culled from a trailer, so we'll see something soon.
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34226
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 June, 2012, 03:30:44 AM
It's going to be so good. I REALLY HOPE SO. Script was great, images are great. ALL IT TAKES IS SOUNDTRACK AND ACTING.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 June, 2012, 03:34:20 AM
Quote from: Stan on 09 June, 2012, 03:28:18 AM
I think Empire's assumption may be correct in the case of the Meg shot at least. It kinda makes sense to play it safe and grab something from the trailer. Especially if you have a record of releasing spoiler information with your photos.  >:( Though I suppose we were all under the impression we'd see a trailer soon anyway.

We're hopeful that the stills look like they've been culled from a trailer, so we'll see something soon.
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34226

I think empire are jealous because they didn't get the next exclusive.

Clearly more them then anyone should understand the over hype problem after the recent Prometheus fiasco. As much as I want to see more of Dredd, the less they show maybe the better? I don't know.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 09 June, 2012, 03:41:28 AM
Quoteanyone should understand the over hype problem after the recent Prometheus fiasco

I watched a trailer for it and was damn sure i'd seen the movies entire plot, it left little to the imagination.

I have no quibbles with the quality of this film now, none at all. After all District 9 only cost 30 mil and took everyone by surprise, I think DREDD will look far better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 09 June, 2012, 03:54:01 AM
Hey, another new pic from the film!







(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x32/scowling_monkey/meanddredd.jpg)


Just kidding, obviously.  That's me back in 1995.  Oh, the humanity. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 June, 2012, 03:56:39 AM
Looks like a shot of 1/2 of the Village People.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 09 June, 2012, 03:59:11 AM
Indeed!   :lol:  The fashion disasters of yesteryear, eh?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 09 June, 2012, 04:02:22 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 09 June, 2012, 03:54:01 AM
Just kidding, obviously.  That's me back in 1995.  Oh, the humanity.

Cool, what were you doing on that film, monkey dude (any gossip or titbits from the set?) and is that Sly beside you?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 09 June, 2012, 04:16:28 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 09 June, 2012, 04:02:22 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 09 June, 2012, 03:54:01 AM
Just kidding, obviously.  That's me back in 1995.  Oh, the humanity.

Cool, what were you doing on that film, monkey dude (any gossip or titbits from the set?) and is that Sly beside you?

Nothing so exciting I'm afraid mate!  That pic was taken on the mean pedways of Cardiff City Centre.  It was some promotional thing they were doing when the 1995 film came out.  No-one famous was dressed as Dredd unfortunately. 

I thought it was the most exciting thing ever though, and ran to Boots to get a disposable camera so I could immortalise my moment with my comicbook (anti)hero.  That photo has been kicking around my house for ages - forgot about it until recently!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 09 June, 2012, 04:20:32 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 09 June, 2012, 04:16:28 AM
Nothing so exciting I'm afraid mate!  That pic was taken on the mean pedways of Cardiff City Centre.  It was some promotional thing they were doing when the 1995 film came out.  No-one famous was dressed as Dredd unfortunately.  I thought it was the most exciting thing ever though

...and then you saw the actual film :'(...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 09 June, 2012, 04:27:56 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 09 June, 2012, 04:20:32 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 09 June, 2012, 04:16:28 AM
Nothing so exciting I'm afraid mate!  That pic was taken on the mean pedways of Cardiff City Centre.  It was some promotional thing they were doing when the 1995 film came out.  No-one famous was dressed as Dredd unfortunately.  I thought it was the most exciting thing ever though

...and then you saw the actual film :'(...

Yeah, but even the film can't take away that awesome moment I had with Dredd!   :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Emperor on 09 June, 2012, 04:35:01 AM
Quote from: M.I.K. on 09 June, 2012, 12:13:11 AM
Quote from: Mardroid on 08 June, 2012, 11:49:07 PM
Great poster. Very atmospheric. Makes Dredd look.... well a bit like a hollow suit really. An extension of the fact half his face is normally hidden, and it works very well.

...and nowhere on that poster is there even any indication of who's playing the role. Bit unusual.

It's a teaser poster so the information on it has been kept to a minimum which also suits the image, all the relevant information will be on the main posters. I'm sure he could have kicked off and git his people to jam his name on there somewhere but as has been said:

Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 09 June, 2012, 01:08:36 AM
All credit to Karl Urban for a) wanting to do the film b) actually having read Dredd c) keeping the helmet on and d) for not being a primadonna.

He has been a good sport throughout in what is a tricky gig, what with the whole keeping the helmet on business. Especially as he is a good-looking chap who is a hit with the ladies (and some fellas too), whereas Stallone looks like mince shoved into the leg of a pair of tights and it would have been a mercy if he'd kept his helmet on ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 June, 2012, 04:43:23 AM
Quote from: Emperor on 09 June, 2012, 04:35:01 AM
Stallone looks like mince shoved into the leg of a pair of tights and it would have been a mercy if he'd kept his helmet on ;)


How's that life-size meat-puppet of Stallone comin' along?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 09 June, 2012, 06:34:28 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 June, 2012, 11:42:37 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 08 June, 2012, 11:32:24 PM
Well that pissed on everybody's chips.

I kinda like soggy chips but not pissed on ones :|
Just close your eyes and imagine its vinegar.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 09 June, 2012, 06:58:17 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 09 June, 2012, 06:34:28 AM
Just close your eyes and imagine its vinegar.

For Logan's wee that shouldn't be far from the truth.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 09 June, 2012, 07:43:56 AM
 :o  :|



:|


:|


I'll come back when there's more piccys,back to your piss folks...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 09 June, 2012, 08:34:40 AM
Quotethe same reason that one of the oldest posters, who's apparently a really big fan of Dredd and 2000ad, is such a negative and miserable sod - sometimes people will post anything to get a reaction.

Apparantly?
Ok, just to clarify my point 250+ pages, nearly 3,800 posts mostly inane drivel and whinging intersperced with the odd good comment and decent pics.

I dont post stuff to get a reaction if I wanted to do that I'd join the list of people who just scatter gun shite throughout the board.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 June, 2012, 08:42:52 AM
Now Empire post the new poster too, the big news now spread! :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 09 June, 2012, 09:15:52 AM
Does anyone know why JoBlo got the scoop on the new images?...I hadn't heard of the site before, guess I should get out more.

Those images alone are better than the whole '95 film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 09 June, 2012, 09:33:38 AM
It's sit back, feet up and enjoy the DREDD related film goodies up until September  :lol: Teaser trailer still to co
me too!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 09 June, 2012, 09:40:12 AM
Just sent Hot toys a begging message asking them to make a Dredd figure....they are doing Batman + Batpod,not to far a stretch for them to do a lawmaster too.
You don't ask you don't get.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 09 June, 2012, 09:41:01 AM
Woke up this morning and my subconscious had managed to work out what that fantastic empty suit and shadow poster reminded me of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egl0KRh8jcE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egl0KRh8jcE)

Which, as cultural associations go, is cool on so many different levels.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 09 June, 2012, 10:54:12 AM
the teaser poster has caused me to Zarjasm

looks class, stoked for the film.. 7th of September is booked off work, can't wait




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 09 June, 2012, 11:02:01 AM
Quote from: W. R. Logan on 09 June, 2012, 08:34:40 AM
Quotethe same reason that one of the oldest posters, who's apparently a really big fan of Dredd and 2000ad, is such a negative and miserable sod - sometimes people will post anything to get a reaction.

Apparantly?
Ok, just to clarify my point 250+ pages, nearly 3,800 posts mostly inane drivel and whinging intersperced with the odd good comment and decent pics.

I dont post stuff to get a reaction if I wanted to do that I'd join the list of people who just scatter gun shite throughout the board.

Unfair comment. The fact that almost 4,000 posts have been made before the trailer, let alone the film is released shows the level of anticipation (which if you are a Dredd fan can't be a bad thing at all).A  level of spitballing and chewing the cud is natural when there has ,up to recently ,been so little material out there, with little context (especially for those who haven't read the script).

However, what you should appreciate is the sheer doggedness ,ingenuity and  determination of certain posters who have tried to fill the vaccuum by  scouring the net to bring as much news,material  and analysis to this forum as possible.Watching these trackers at work ,pulling material almost out of a hat ,has been ,well fun and at times, very impressive.

Now go kick your cat you'll feel better -the in depth insight will only come after the film is released
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 09 June, 2012, 11:03:53 AM
Logan is right and you are all boring people who should find a wider array of hobbies.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 June, 2012, 11:07:22 AM
Instead of all trying to be mods.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 09 June, 2012, 11:14:42 AM
Meeting adjourned! .... And back to scouring the interweb for trivia.  :-X
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 09 June, 2012, 11:21:25 AM
A phatic thread-about-a-thread. Very Post Modern, detached and ironic, chaps.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 09 June, 2012, 11:34:27 AM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 09 June, 2012, 11:03:53 AM
Logan is right and you are all boring people who should find a wider array of hobbies.

Sounds like someone needs a hug
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Neil McClements on 09 June, 2012, 12:08:55 PM
The new photos look spot on and it's great the film seems to employ a lot of homage to its roots but including all those 2000ad references throughout the images and is that Thargs nerve centre, kings reach tower just to the right of centre? Looks similar.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 09 June, 2012, 01:05:46 PM
QuoteUnfair comment. The fact that almost 4,000 posts have been made before the trailer, let alone the film is released shows the level of anticipation (which if you are a Dredd fan can't be a bad thing at all).A  level of spitballing and chewing the cud is natural when there has ,up to recently ,been so little material out there, with little context (especially for those who haven't read the script).

Ok, 4000 posts, how many of those have actually said something?
At times when there is nothing to say then say nothing.
Whilst I try to refrain from personal comments even at during my most grumpy times it seems that you as well as others don't have that restraint.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 09 June, 2012, 01:17:12 PM
It was a little humour at the end Logan ,nothing personal -chill.As for saying nothing when there is nothing to say, you know that tumbleweed................ doesn't exist on forums.Nothing wrong with a bit of banter.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 09 June, 2012, 01:18:07 PM
On the poster it says 'In 3D and Real D 3D'. Any of you film bods feel like explaining the difference?

Apologies to Logan if this question does not meet his exacting criteria for an interesting post.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mario Di Giacomo on 09 June, 2012, 01:19:00 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 09 June, 2012, 01:18:07 PM
On the poster it says 'In 3D and Real D 3D'. Any of you film bods feel like explaining the difference?

Apologies to Logan if this question does not meet his exacting criteria for an interesting post.

Different 3D processes.  Basically, different kinds of glasses.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 09 June, 2012, 01:45:29 PM
Erm! That last comment isn't interesting enough!
... And neither is this one.  Apologises fellow boarders for this and the previous posts blandness!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 09 June, 2012, 01:55:01 PM
RealD 3D cinema technology uses circularly polarized light to produce stereoscopic image projection. The advantage of circular polarization over linear polarization is that viewers are able to tilt their head and look about the theater naturally without seeing double or darkened images. However, as with other systems, any significant head tilt will result in incorrect parallax and prevent the brain from correctly fusing the stereoscopic images.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealD_Cinema
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 09 June, 2012, 01:59:35 PM
Quote from: W. R. Logan on 09 June, 2012, 01:05:46 PM
Ok, 4000 posts, how many of those have actually said something?
At times when there is nothing to say then say nothing.

(http://www.johnkingworld.com/cow/dredd-lawnmaster.gif)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8EMbGTSWMI
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 09 June, 2012, 02:01:31 PM
I don't disagree that large chunks of this thread is pretty boring, and repetitive. (No offence guys. I totally understand why, it's not as if we've had a whole lot to talk about.) It was just odd seeing that post just after those new pictures were posted! Unless the poster hadn't actually seen them at that point and was reacting to the blurb that went on before.

Anyhow. I'm not sure if this is just me, but Dredd's arm looks disproportionately long in that poster. I'm sure it's just an optical illusion due to the angle or something (or just my funny mind). I don't intend that as a criticism, mind. Fits that old  saying about 'the long arm of the law'. Heh. It truly is a good image.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 09 June, 2012, 02:09:35 PM
I can't see anything wrong with his arm...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 June, 2012, 02:11:20 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 09 June, 2012, 02:01:31 PM
I don't disagree that large chunks of this thread is pretty boring, and repetitive. (No offence guys. I totally understand why, it's not as if we've had a whole lot to talk about.) It was just odd seeing that post just after those new pictures were posted! Unless the poster hadn't actually seen them at that point and was reacting to the blurb that went on before.


Give the fella a break he's just lost an arm and won't be getting another one. (cut-backs)



Quote from: Mardroid on 09 June, 2012, 02:01:31 PMAnyhow. I'm not sure if this is just me, but Dredd's arm looks disproportionately long in that poster.

As long as these:

(http://wpc.556e.edgecastcdn.net/80556E/img.site/PH0pOrXGnv3e36_1_m.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 09 June, 2012, 02:13:44 PM
That will have much more impact in 3D,lawgiver right up your nose.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 09 June, 2012, 02:14:33 PM
Pretty much same arms I think we can agree.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 09 June, 2012, 02:19:53 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 09 June, 2012, 02:13:44 PM
That will have much more impact in 3D,lawgiver right up your nose.

Good point-that will look surreal/awesome to see Dredd pointing straight at you in 3D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 June, 2012, 02:26:29 PM
I thought his arms looked quite long as well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 June, 2012, 02:30:11 PM
Having long-arms may be the answer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 09 June, 2012, 02:35:45 PM
Oh, I'm sure the arm is all his and it's just an angle thing. Or Mardroid needs his ocular units (and possibly the  squishy mess behind them) upgraded.

And no complaint intended. It's a fantastic image.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mogzilla on 09 June, 2012, 02:41:04 PM
frickin arsomness abounds!!! now, will all the naughty boys girls and scojos please go and sit on the naughty step fo all the negativeness and naysaying they did? roger'll have to budge up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Skullgrin140 on 09 June, 2012, 02:54:05 PM
My excitement for this film is incredibly high, my one hope for this movie is that if it's successful 2000AD will hopefully be exposed abit more to the Mainstream audience and we can see other movies of some of there comics being made, the other one is that if the film is a success then we can see a sequel involving The Dark Judges.

Out of all the films to come out this year, Dredd is the one that has me really hyped up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Waltev on 09 June, 2012, 03:23:49 PM
Regarding the poster and the scenery pic (and possibly a sad statement on my life as well) - I have never seen seen anything as cool in my life. At least I don't think so at the moment.

When I saw the Total Recall trailer I hoped the Dredd team could have done something at least vaguely similar regarding the architecture - I thought the architecture in Recall was rather MC1-like... but this is actually better!

If only I didn't have a killer hangover I'd be jumping up and down with excitement.

Re: the scenery picture - would it be all-out crazy to assume that the little flying thingies around the blocks (not referring to the is-it-a-bird-or-a-plane thingie) would be... batgliders?

That would seriously rock!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 09 June, 2012, 04:50:34 PM
The Guys at Empire seem to be wondering where the trailer is, and they're usually pretty much in the loop on these things.

'Though we suppose Lionsgate and the team behind Dredd have been waiting for the bigger guns such as Prometheus, The Avengers and a certain Mr Batman to get out of the way in terms of advertising, it is a little puzzling as to why we've seen zero seconds of footage from the film. No teasers, no trailers for trailers and not even a clip. But while that situation hasn't changed, there is at least an official poster online now'

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34226 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34226)


We're not too far off now though; I think the speculation that these new stills have been taken from the trailer could be correct.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 09 June, 2012, 05:21:31 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 09 June, 2012, 04:50:34 PM
We're not too far off now though; I think the speculation that these new stills have been taken from the trailer could be correct.

That new cityscape sho is the only image from the finished film that's been seen thus far other than the leaked VFX footage a couple of months ago. Everything else has been on set photos -- or video in the case of the Lonewolf Grips footage.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 09 June, 2012, 06:53:55 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 09 June, 2012, 02:30:11 PM
Having long-arms may be the answer.

He is, after all, the law.

Sent from my GT-S5830 using Tapatalk 2
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 June, 2012, 06:55:49 PM
back after nice day away for my 33th, so do I miss anything?

Also I notice Dredd finally appears on Lionsgate website;

http://www.lionsgate.com/ (http://www.lionsgate.com/)

or was it posted here?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 June, 2012, 09:05:12 PM
So beautiful..... Will have it as Facebook Timeline cover!

(http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/Dreddimage_2_big.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 10 June, 2012, 10:30:13 AM
Whoa, away for a couple of days and this is what happens. All the new stuff looks great!

There's something about that good morning MC1 image that reminds me of Bespin, or something by McQuarrie. It almost looks like high definition concept art.

I also wonder about the small dots in the sky, if those are vehicles or something. One looks like a bird but there are three others.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 10 June, 2012, 10:47:39 AM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 10 June, 2012, 10:30:13 AM
something by McQuarrie. 

That's a very good point, McQuarrie design sense and composition made Star Wars. The more I look at this image of MC1, the more it impresses me, a classy shot, they've shown restraint, not tried to fit in a million things. Beautiful work...we've all seen the buildings they painted this scene into...I'm blown away by how well they did that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 10 June, 2012, 10:52:05 AM
I also found this, sorry if it's already been posted:

Dredd 2012 film - Previsualization clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NjCHacOpnFA)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 10 June, 2012, 10:58:56 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 10 June, 2012, 10:47:39 AM
That's a very good point, McQuarrie design sense and composition made Star Wars. The more I look at this image of MC1, the more it impresses me, a classy shot, they've shown restraint, not tried to fit in a million things. Beautiful work...we've all seen the buildings they painted this scene into...I'm blown away by how well they did that.

That's exactly it, I think it's both the restraint and the lighting. It gives it a sense of "realness". I'm curious as to what it really is, a 3d model or a matte image?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 10 June, 2012, 11:53:35 AM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 10 June, 2012, 10:52:05 AM
I also found this, sorry if it's already been posted:

Dredd 2012 film - Previsualization clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NjCHacOpnFA)

So THAT'S where the budget went?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 10 June, 2012, 02:58:04 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 10 June, 2012, 11:53:35 AM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 10 June, 2012, 10:52:05 AM
I also found this, sorry if it's already been posted:

Dredd 2012 film - Previsualization clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NjCHacOpnFA)

So THAT'S where the budget went?

:D

Don't underestimate the power of pre-visualization though. It seems a lot of film makers use it today, a simple and cheap way to perfect complex scenes before production. If I'm not mistaken, Peter Jackson uses it extensively.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 10 June, 2012, 03:17:19 PM
I thought it was concept art too.
I think partly because the lighting to the shot is very McQuarrie like, as is the low composition angle.

Still, thats what makes it so great ;-)

Quick find:


(http://nmbdesigner.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/starwarsconceptart_ralphmcquarrie_3.jpg?w=900)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 10 June, 2012, 03:23:10 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 10 June, 2012, 03:17:19 PM
I thought it was concept art too.
I think partly because the lighting to the shot is very McQuarrie like, as is the low composition angle.

Still, thats what makes it so great ;-)

Quick find:


(http://nmbdesigner.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/starwarsconceptart_ralphmcquarrie_3.jpg?w=900)

Nice find. Seems Chewie etc are doing exactly as the sign above their heads says - 'Pause'  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 10 June, 2012, 04:09:01 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 10 June, 2012, 03:23:10 PM
Nice find. Seems Chewie etc are doing exactly as the sign above their heads says - 'Pause'  ;)

Bwahhahahahhahaaaa!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: minus on 10 June, 2012, 04:10:53 PM
...just scanned through nearly 50 pages.

Clearly most of you seem ecstatic with the poster and city skyline. Some of the reformatted posters appear a lot stronger than the 'official' one. The city buildings are passable stylistically, but there needs to be more to it. It just isn't congested enough for my liking. Those wheeled wagons just don't work at all. Hopefully we'll get a trailer soon and this thread will be obsolete. Not really the Dredd I wanted, but it's done now and we'll just have to wait and see how it pans out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 10 June, 2012, 04:19:55 PM
I think the skyline in this picture is deceptively sparse. Those small buildings are huge, and the larger ones are gigantic, judging my the detail when you look close up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 June, 2012, 04:51:09 PM
My initial thought was similar in that it felt a bit sparse, but I think the intention is to give some contrast between the (relatively) regular skyline and the enormous blocks.

I think it would have been too much of a stretch to have contemporary vehicles and a city packed with blocks that size, it would have drawn attention to the gap between budget for practical vehicles and what could be done with digital mattes on the environment - Unless they started using CGI for vehicles as well (which is not particularly a big deal for this type of shot, but once you hit the streets it could get expensive).

It's not like doubling the number of blocks would have made that much of a difference to the render time (and budget)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 June, 2012, 04:55:41 PM
It just one single photo!! Chill out! Counts the days till Sept  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 10 June, 2012, 05:08:57 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 10 June, 2012, 04:19:55 PM
I think the skyline in this picture is deceptively sparse. Those small buildings are huge, and the larger ones are gigantic, judging my the detail when you look close up.

I think so. This is effectively the calm before the storm. For the sake of the scene, this allows Dredd (presumably) to be easily followed as heads out to patrol...and meet that storm.

Also we see an army of judges heading in, one man heading out...the most dangerous one. It's an absolute blinder, I can't get enough it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 10 June, 2012, 05:10:53 PM
Easily followed because the skyline is impressive but not a distraction, we can follow Dredd easily. Daylight too...long been sick of dark city scenes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 June, 2012, 05:12:44 PM
I think they've struck a pretty decent balance between realism and futuristic spectacle - as others have said you have to weigh how the city will look in context with the contemporary-looking vehicles and weaponry etc.

It's clear the filmmakers have been very exacting on the type of film they are making - and what they can realistically achieve with the means at their disposal. It may not be the ideal vision of Dredd that we all want to see, but given the choice between a stripped back, relatively low-tech but slick and polished looking interpretation, an attempt to portray the comic on screen (which would be very ambitious on a $35/40m budget and would look so cheap as to be laughable) and no film at all, I'd go with the former.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 10 June, 2012, 05:39:34 PM
Re the information on the Lionsgate website, it describes Anderson as "a rookie with powerful psychic abilities thanks to a genetic mutation". 
I've got the first two Anderson Psi files and all of the JD Case Files to date but don't remember hearing this explanation before, my recollection was that some people were just born gifted with psionic abilities (or developed them at a later date).  Is this something unique to the film or was it explained in a later story?  Surely a genetic mutation would have meant Anderson was a mutant and therefore banned from MC-1?

Note: I'm not bothered if they made this up for the film, I'm just genuinely interested if this ties in with the strip!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 10 June, 2012, 05:46:34 PM
Quote from: The Bissler on 10 June, 2012, 05:39:34 PM...some people were just born gifted with psionic abilities ...

That'd be a mutation, so - see Anderson's telekentic predecessor, Novar.  Mutation is how natural selection gets much of its clay.  I don't believe it has been explicitly addressed by the comic, but it certainly should have been. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mario Di Giacomo on 10 June, 2012, 05:46:43 PM
I think the definition of "mutation" in MC-1 is a bit different.

In the progs I've read (admittedly, not many) the definition seems to be specifically "physically mutated due to residence in or ancestry from the Cursed Earth", and tends to be more aesthetic than genetic.

Hence, someone with genetic variations might not qualify, particularly if they can "pass" for human.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 10 June, 2012, 05:53:03 PM
Thanks for the swift responses!  It does seem strange that it has never been explained in the comics, but at the same time I had never really thought about it until now - Anderson and others just were psychic and that was good enough for me!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 10 June, 2012, 05:58:45 PM
Quote from: The Bissler on 10 June, 2012, 05:53:03 PM
Thanks for the swift responses!  It does seem strange that it has never been explained in the comics, but at the same time I had never really thought about it until now - Anderson and others just were psychic and that was good enough for me!

I'm pretty sure we've had it addressed in the comic somewhere...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 10 June, 2012, 06:00:34 PM
Quote from: bewareofgeek on 10 June, 2012, 05:46:43 PM
In the progs I've read (admittedly, not many) the definition seems to be specifically "physically mutated due to residence in or ancestry from the Cursed Earth", and tends to be more aesthetic than genetic.

Well, no.   America Beeny's elder half-sister was terminated in utero as a mutant, and America Jara was (almost by definition) born in MC-1.

However, it is possible that psychic abilities in the Dreddverse are a long-stranding part of the human genome, and are only occasionally expressed in a functional way in rare individuals. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 10 June, 2012, 06:16:09 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 10 June, 2012, 05:58:45 PM
Quote from: The Bissler on 10 June, 2012, 05:53:03 PM
Thanks for the swift responses!  It does seem strange that it has never been explained in the comics, but at the same time I had never really thought about it until now - Anderson and others just were psychic and that was good enough for me!

I'm pretty sure we've had it addressed in the comic somewhere...

It has. There was a story in the Meg not too long ago where Dredd goes to the cursed Earth to find a former female Judge, now working as a bounty hunter, who was kicked out of the MC-1 for having some borderline mutation. When Dredd picks her up she explicitly refers to the fact that Psis are mutants and Justice Deparment makes a specific exception for the Psi Judges. As it turns out [spoiler]Dredd is actually after her unborn child who has a good chance of being genetically normal and probably good Judge material.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 10 June, 2012, 06:19:59 PM
Ah, thanks for that Mark!  This is where dropping the Meg gets me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 10 June, 2012, 06:26:46 PM
Thanks for clearing that up Mark - it's my own fault for not keeping up with 2000AD/Megazine!  By all accounts the current Judge Dredd story is excellent while I'm stuck in the mire of the mid-90's Dredd with the current run of case files.

I wish to renew my plea to Rebellion - please get the next few case files out as soon as possible!  I'm looking forward to reading all the good stuff that followed after Mr Wagner returned to writing JD!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mogzilla on 10 June, 2012, 06:52:07 PM
just one random question to molcher is there gonna be a comic adaptation either in the prog meg or as a seperate entitiy?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 06:54:28 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 10 June, 2012, 06:00:34 PM
However, it is possible that psychic abilities in the Dreddverse are a long-stranding part of the human genome, and are only occasionally expressed in a functional way in rare individuals.



PSI dept. was set up before the Atomic War of 2070 (see Origins) so it's possible Psionic ability is not considered a mutation as a result of radiation.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 10 June, 2012, 06:56:14 PM
Quote from: mogzilla on 10 June, 2012, 06:52:07 PM
just one random question to molcher is there gonna be a comic adaptation either in the prog meg or as a seperate entitiy?

He's answered that previously, and the answer was no.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 10 June, 2012, 06:59:52 PM

I wish to renew my plea to Rebellion - please get the next few case files out as soon as possible!  I'm looking forward to reading all the good stuff that followed after Mr Wagner returned to writing JD!
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This,i stopped reading about the Kraken clone story line,can't remember it's exact name..anyway,same as,case files catch  up but dying to read some of the newer stuff like this day of chaos wotsit.I'm just that far behind I'm lost?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mogzilla on 10 June, 2012, 07:40:17 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 10 June, 2012, 06:56:14 PM
Quote from: mogzilla on 10 June, 2012, 06:52:07 PM
just one random question to molcher is there gonna be a comic adaptation either in the prog meg or as a seperate entitiy?

He's answered that previously, and the answer was no.

shame
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 10 June, 2012, 08:05:36 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 06:54:28 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 10 June, 2012, 06:00:34 PM
However, it is possible that psychic abilities in the Dreddverse are a long-stranding part of the human genome, and are only occasionally expressed in a functional way in rare individuals.



PSI dept. was set up before the Atomic War of 2070 (see Origins) so it's possible Psionic ability is not considered a mutation as a result of radiation.

Good thinking, Batman. I was only re-reading that recently but the thought never occurred to me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 10 June, 2012, 08:17:52 PM
WOW. Three days worth of posts. That will teach me to stay off the internet and do real life stuff.
Poster is Frikking ARSOM., City scape is spot on. I always thought in the comic the city blocks were sometimes located too close together.




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 June, 2012, 08:20:10 PM
I doubt they have as much of a problem with inter-block wars in the film version...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 June, 2012, 08:22:12 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 10 June, 2012, 08:17:52 PM
WOW. Three days worth of posts. That will teach me to stay off the internet and do real life stuff.
Poster is Frikking ARSOM., City scape is spot on. I always thought in the comic the city blocks were sometimes located too close together.


Maybe it early Mega-City as the population get grew, more new city blocks?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 08:30:55 PM
It's only one elevated shot of one small section of the city. That's not to say other parts of the city aren't more clustered.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mike Carroll on 10 June, 2012, 08:35:28 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 10 June, 2012, 06:16:09 PM
It has. There was a story in the Meg not too long ago where Dredd goes to the cursed Earth to find a former female Judge, now working as a bounty hunter, who was kicked out of the MC-1 for having some borderline mutation. When Dredd picks her up she explicitly refers to the fact that Psis are mutants and Justice Deparment makes a specific exception for the Psi Judges. As it turns out [spoiler]Dredd is actually after her unborn child who has a good chance of being genetically normal and probably good Judge material.[/spoiler]

Oh, I remember that one...  :)

-- Mike
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 10 June, 2012, 08:48:13 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 10 June, 2012, 04:51:09 PM
It's not like doubling the number of blocks would have made that much of a difference to the render time (and budget)

Yes, but the movie is set in the near future.  Showing a city in the early stages of change works well and also emphasises how different they are to normal skyscrapers.  Density can work against visual storytelling.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 June, 2012, 09:04:27 PM
What can you say after seeing the poster but :thumbsup: This is well crafted, as it caters to two markets perfectly.

The fans get a tease on Dredd with this dark menacing image in shadow. The helmet, the Lawgiver and the BADGE are all on display but not much else, apart from the left arm. The words say it all and this sets the right tone for the promotional push.

For the general movie goer it gives a look of a gritty action film. The helmet is damaged and the uniform on display looks well worn in. Dredd's name is on the poster and it tells you what he's gonna do and in what month. Caters for the larger market without being too precise on the date. Also the real D 3D will pull in lovers of the new format.

As far as I'm concerned this alone should have put anyones niggling worries to rest, as the poster is so Drokkin' atmospheric and shows that the team behind the film have a superb knowledge of the character.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Leigh S on 10 June, 2012, 09:16:02 PM
Just going on the facts of the comic, each block holds 65,000 cits, so lets say 10,000 blocks to hold 650 million cits.  Spread that over 300 sectors, or 30 odd blocks per sector.....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 10 June, 2012, 09:21:07 PM
You have to remember there is not just blocks in sectors they have monuments and over sea imports like The White Cliffs of Dover.




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 10 June, 2012, 10:22:27 PM
I've always felt that 650 Million cits was a bit of a low number with how large and congested the Big Meg always appears. You'd think it should be closer to a Billion citizens.

Mega City 1 should be congested and crazy, even with how big it is its skyline should never look that thin, IMO.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 10:23:45 PM
Quote from: Leigh S on 10 June, 2012, 09:16:02 PM
Just going on the facts of the comic, each block holds 65,000 cits, so lets say 10,000 blocks to hold 650 million cits.  Spread that over 300 sectors, or 30 odd blocks per sector.....


Peach Tree block [spoiler]holds 75,000 cits.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 10:24:47 PM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 10 June, 2012, 10:22:27 PM
Mega City 1 should be congested and crazy, even with how big it is its skyline should never look that thin, IMO.


Not even in any part?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 10 June, 2012, 10:26:40 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 10:24:47 PM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 10 June, 2012, 10:22:27 PM
Mega City 1 should be congested and crazy, even with how big it is its skyline should never look that thin, IMO.


Not even in any part?

In my opinion? No.  Mega City 1 should be busting at the seams. With one side flanked by the Cursed Earth, and the other The Black Atlantic. Everyone and everything fighting for a tiny silver of personal space to call their own.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 10 June, 2012, 10:30:54 PM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 10 June, 2012, 10:26:40 PM
In my opinion? No.  Mega City 1 should be busting at the seams. With one side flanked by the Cursed Earth, and the other The Black Atlantic. Everyone and everything fighting for a tiny silver of personal space to call their own.

I think the old Space Maths Population thread would indicate that for that to be the case MC-1 would need several billion inhabitants.  If you have high-rise high-density block you are going to have a lot of open space or at least low-rise areas between them.  Look at Kennedy's 'Saturday Night Fever' or 'Cardboard City'.  That'll do for me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 10:32:42 PM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 10 June, 2012, 10:26:40 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 10:24:47 PM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 10 June, 2012, 10:22:27 PM
Mega City 1 should be congested and crazy, even with how big it is its skyline should never look that thin, IMO.


Not even in any part?


Sounds boring, I like to think there's richer and civic sectors that are a bit more open-plan.

In my opinion? No.  Mega City 1 should be busting at the seams. With one side flanked by the Cursed Earth, and the other The Black Atlantic. Everyone and everything fighting for a tiny silver of personal space to call their own.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 10:33:14 PM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 10 June, 2012, 10:26:40 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 10:24:47 PM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 10 June, 2012, 10:22:27 PM
Mega City 1 should be congested and crazy, even with how big it is its skyline should never look that thin, IMO.


Not even in any part?






Sounds boring, I like to think there's richer and civic sectors that are a bit more open-plan.

In my opinion? No.  Mega City 1 should be busting at the seams. With one side flanked by the Cursed Earth, and the other The Black Atlantic. Everyone and everything fighting for a tiny silver of personal space to call their own.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 10 June, 2012, 10:36:51 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 10:33:14 PMSounds boring, I like to think there's richer and civic sectors that are a bit more open-plan.
I suppose I'm not saying that can't be the case, where Richer areas are less congested. But those areas aren't necessarily large, and are always flanked by the ever present high-rises of the city surrounding it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 10 June, 2012, 10:39:18 PM
Again, this is a personal opinion, when I imagine Mega City 1 in my mind, its a congested mass of city blocks, skyways, air traffic, and crime. An island of a cyberpunk nightmare nestled in the wreckage of a post-apocalyptic world.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 10:44:53 PM
The facebook page's gone a bit funky.


http://www.facebook.com/judgedreddthemovie
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 10:45:57 PM
as in fan-page with a weird smorgasboard of photoshoppery.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 10 June, 2012, 10:46:29 PM
They've been devilishly clever in regards to showing cranes and construction in the background. If the movie justifies a sequel and a larger budget to flesh out the city a bit more, all they have to do is set it a few years on from this one to explain it. Urban growth and all that.

I love what they've done here. The attention to those details and justifying the limited budget they have is spot on. How often do you see filmmakers showing some restraint and responsibility with their product these days? Nicholas Meyer directed Star Trek II (what most fans would agree is the strongest of the movies) and on the commentary he's convinced the movie works so well because they had such a tiny budget compared to what came before. It forced them to make responsible decisions and to tailor the movie to play to its strengths. Things that don't cost anything to focus on: Characters and story.

Hard not to get a chill looking at Dredd heading back out to the city although [spoiler]I suspect that this is one of the final shots of the movie as opposed to the beginning.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 10 June, 2012, 10:46:39 PM
I happen to agree with you there, Adventurer, but if you're going with a 'realistic' take, as this movie appears to be doing, it's just not going to wash.  MC-1 can't be both as extensive (Boston to DC) and as intensive as your appealing description suggests, without running into the billions of citizens.  It can't all be Manhattan island/Hong Kong.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 10:48:48 PM
It looks like when Dirty Harry's on top of that building in 'Frisco at the start of the flick.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 10:50:15 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 10 June, 2012, 10:46:29 PM

Hard not to get a chill looking at Dredd heading back out to the city although [spoiler]I suspect that this is one of the final shots of the movie as opposed to the beginning.[/spoiler]


[spoiler]I think the chase to the building is in daylight.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 10 June, 2012, 10:54:24 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 10:45:57 PM
as in fan-page with a weird smorgasboard of photoshoppery.

Everyone's an artist now, eh? Everyone thinks they can improve everything. Nobody's ever happy. Waiting, waiting, waiting for this stuff and then as soon as it gets released, showing you how they can do it better. There's some fuckstick on Facebook moaning about how Dredd stole the poster idea from some ghastly piece of shite he threw together in Photoshop. (Chris Nolan stole his idea for the Batpod as well, just so you know...) Don't understand people. This stuff has made my fucking weekend.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 10 June, 2012, 10:56:37 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 10:50:15 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 10 June, 2012, 10:46:29 PM

Hard not to get a chill looking at Dredd heading back out to the city although [spoiler]I suspect that this is one of the final shots of the movie as opposed to the beginning.[/spoiler]


[spoiler]I think the chase to the building is in daylight.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Yeah, that's true maybe. I just assumed with the proximity of Sternhammer block in the background that this was Peach Trees he was exiting...[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mario Di Giacomo on 10 June, 2012, 10:59:14 PM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 10 June, 2012, 10:39:18 PM
Again, this is a personal opinion, when I imagine Mega City 1 in my mind, its a congested mass of city blocks, skyways, air traffic, and crime. An island of a cyberpunk nightmare nestled in the wreckage of a post-apocalyptic world.

I tend to see it as resembling The City from Trassmetropolitan.  Probably because I read Transmet first.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 10 June, 2012, 11:01:35 PM
I think [spoiler]it has to be Peach Trees. The chase at the beginning takes place at night. Plus, Sternhammer is right near it and the script calls for daylight at the end of the movie.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 11:08:29 PM
Quote from: wadew1 on 10 June, 2012, 11:01:35 PM
I think [spoiler]it has to be Peach Trees. The chase at the beginning takes place at night. Plus, Sternhammer is right near it and the script calls for daylight at the end of the movie.[/spoiler]


We know it's Peach Trees from the exterior and block entry, but, [spoiler]the released showreel footage shows the chase has been filmed in daylight and different from the script.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 10 June, 2012, 11:34:02 PM
As I sit here in my apartment in Cardiff bay, I look out over Bute dock towards the city.. I know that the city itself is pretty dense, as most large population centres are.. However even looking at the place from here, I'm not getting the full view, as the capitol building is blocking my view.. Point being that Meg 1's density can't be judged from one angle.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 10 June, 2012, 11:46:00 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 10 June, 2012, 11:34:02 PM
As I sit here in my apartment in Cardiff bay, I look out over Bute dock towards the city.. I know that the city itself is pretty dense, as most large population centres are.. However even looking at the place from here, I'm not getting the full view, as the capitol building is blocking my view.. Point being that Meg 1's density can't be judged from one angle.

Hint, hint.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 10 June, 2012, 11:57:27 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 10:44:53 PM
The facebook page's gone a bit funky.


http://www.facebook.com/judgedreddthemovie

https://www.facebook.com/dreddthemovie !!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 10 June, 2012, 11:58:25 PM
Whoops. Didn't see your post on the page.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 11 June, 2012, 12:13:00 AM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 10 June, 2012, 11:46:00 PM

Hint, hint.

Not really.. That's the first I've seen of MC1 too.. Just saying you can't judge an entire city from a snapshot.. For instance, we all know New York is pretty bloody dense, yet in this pic from the Empire state building, you wouldn't think it was -that- overwhelming..

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nHkHq2N0iHA/TiioxWrrOZI/AAAAAAAABCw/2P0_agzX_Mg/s1600/view-from-empire-state.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 11 June, 2012, 12:14:56 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 11:08:29 PM
Quote from: wadew1 on 10 June, 2012, 11:01:35 PM
I think [spoiler]it has to be Peach Trees. The chase at the beginning takes place at night. Plus, Sternhammer is right near it and the script calls for daylight at the end of the movie.[/spoiler]


We know it's Peach Trees from the exterior and block entry, but, [spoiler]the released showreel footage shows the chase has been filmed in daylight and different from the script.[/spoiler]

Couldn't those shots have been day-for-night, Soap?

FX boy was only showing off the work he did; a different CGI wonk could have been charged with making everything blue- the odd cinematic shorthand for dead of night.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 11 June, 2012, 12:15:59 AM
...and then you look the other direction.. Different story..

(http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicc/cfiles13505.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 11 June, 2012, 12:18:30 AM
Good point Michael.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 11 June, 2012, 12:19:27 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 11:08:29 PM
Quote from: wadew1 on 10 June, 2012, 11:01:35 PM
I think [spoiler]it has to be Peach Trees. The chase at the beginning takes place at night. Plus, Sternhammer is right near it and the script calls for daylight at the end of the movie.[/spoiler]


We know it's Peach Trees from the exterior and block entry, but, [spoiler]the released showreel footage shows the chase has been filmed in daylight and different from the script.[/spoiler]

Did I miss this...? You got a link Joe...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 June, 2012, 12:22:28 AM
Quote from: bikini kill on 11 June, 2012, 12:14:56 AM
Couldn't those shots have been day-for-night, Soap?

FX boy was only showing off the work he did; a different CGI wonk could have been charged with making everything blue- the odd cinematic shorthand for dead of night.


Can't see it, 'specially as the Lawmaster's or van's head-lights weren't tunred on.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 11 June, 2012, 12:24:06 AM
Never mind. I know what you're talking about now. Brainfart. Sorry.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 June, 2012, 12:25:10 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 11 June, 2012, 12:19:27 AM


Did I miss this...? You got a link Joe...?



You've probably seen it Mick:

The blue-van scene:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdWoJgDk60Y

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 June, 2012, 12:39:23 AM
As long as there's a scene exactly like this I'll be happy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1NpZxn860M
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 11 June, 2012, 01:00:57 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 June, 2012, 12:39:23 AM
As long as there's a scene exactly like this I'll be happy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1NpZxn860M

That movie was a major reference in the art department.. As was this:

(http://forum.suzukiownersclub.co.uk/uploads/Winterwolf/Z36_lawmaster3sy2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 June, 2012, 01:06:21 AM
That's you Mick.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 11 June, 2012, 01:25:53 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 June, 2012, 12:39:23 AM
As long as there's a scene exactly like this I'll be happy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1NpZxn860M

Oh sweet mother of god...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 June, 2012, 01:36:18 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 11 June, 2012, 01:25:53 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 June, 2012, 12:39:23 AM
As long as there's a scene exactly like this I'll be happy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1NpZxn860M

Oh sweet mother of god...



You have seen its true face.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mario Di Giacomo on 11 June, 2012, 01:59:28 AM
And yet, it's STILL better than the bikes from Galactica: 1980...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 11 June, 2012, 02:27:53 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 10 June, 2012, 08:20:10 PM
I doubt they have as much of a problem with inter-block wars in the film version...

Now THIS is a very good point, it would appear the residential blocks, owing to their vastness of volume, are quite distant apart, judging by that released shot (which is a thing of beauty and nowt wrong with any of it, IMHO, and that includes the paddy wagons), meaning full-scale Block Wars may not be on the cards for Dredd sequels, although they may get closer and more dense in vicinity to each other if the producers get a bigger budget for potential further films... just as long as they stay out of the Cursed Earth and stick to the city, I'll be happy however it looks...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 11 June, 2012, 02:42:49 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 June, 2012, 12:39:23 AM
As long as there's a scene exactly like this I'll be happy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1NpZxn860M

You're in luck!  The new movie contains a scene just like that!  I have a high-quality clip of the scene, cut from the final movie... (originally revealed about 30 posts back, for those who are lucky enouh to have forgotten it):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8EMbGTSWMI




Technical notes:

To make it we eschewed the usual green-screen or blue-screen, using instead the far superior chroma-key colour "mint sunrise with a shade of apple" from the new Dulux collection, shown below.

(http://www.johnkingworld.com/cow/paintchart.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 11 June, 2012, 05:59:37 AM
Quote from: Stan on 10 June, 2012, 11:57:27 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 10:44:53 PM
The facebook page's gone a bit funky.


http://www.facebook.com/judgedreddthemovie

https://www.facebook.com/dreddthemovie !!

Oops...I just accidentally hit 'Report to a moderator'...on your comment as I moved the page my finger...sorry, Stan. Does anyone know how best to undo that report?  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 11 June, 2012, 06:18:27 AM
Quote from: minus on 10 June, 2012, 04:10:53 PMHopefully we'll get a trailer soon

Amen! Only a few months until the movie is out, I mean I'd say it's more than about time. Release the trailer!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 11 June, 2012, 08:47:27 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2012, 11:08:29 PM
Quote from: wadew1 on 10 June, 2012, 11:01:35 PM
I think [spoiler]it has to be Peach Trees. The chase at the beginning takes place at night. Plus, Sternhammer is right near it and the script calls for daylight at the end of the movie.[/spoiler]


We know it's Peach Trees from the exterior and block entry, but, [spoiler]the released showreel footage shows the chase has been filmed in daylight and different from the script.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]The initial chase happens in the daytime, Dredd and Anderson arrive at Peach Trees in the evening, spend all night in the block and emerge in the daylight the next day.

That shot is the end of the film, showing tek Judges, forensic Judges and mop up teams entering Peach Trees as Dredd leaves.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 June, 2012, 10:30:03 AM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2mi9sk.jpg)

Makes a cool wallpaper.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 11 June, 2012, 10:49:13 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 11 June, 2012, 02:42:49 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 June, 2012, 12:39:23 AM
As long as there's a scene exactly like this I'll be happy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1NpZxn860M

You're in luck!  The new movie contains a scene just like that!  I have a high-quality clip of the scene, cut from the final movie... (originally revealed about 30 posts back, for those who are lucky enouh to have forgotten it):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8EMbGTSWMI




Technical notes:

To make it we eschewed the usual green-screen or blue-screen, using instead the far superior chroma-key colour "mint sunrise with a shade of apple" from the new Dulux collection, shown below.

(http://www.johnkingworld.com/cow/paintchart.jpg)

Hmm would have thought they would have plumped for a little Kneecap Trousers myself, still.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 11 June, 2012, 11:54:30 AM
Quote

You're in luck!  The new movie contains a scene just like that!  I have a high-quality clip of the scene, cut from the final movie... (originally revealed about 30 posts back, for those who are lucky enouh to have forgotten it):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8EMbGTSWMI



This thread has officially eaten itself.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 11 June, 2012, 11:59:41 AM
I laughed out loud at that MEGAFORCE clip...G ZUSS that was smellivision...how did that even get made?...and that enemy soldier...pretty sure he played a prominent Bond baddie back in the day.
Wow...I'd never that, dodged a bullet...http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084316/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 June, 2012, 12:19:14 PM
Amazingly Megaforce cost $20 million back in 1982. That's 2 Star Wars.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 11 June, 2012, 12:40:39 PM
Cheap at any price. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 11 June, 2012, 12:41:46 PM
Is Michael Molcher American, because he's used the US spelling of Judgment with an extra 'e' in the news section which doesn't match the poster. :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 11 June, 2012, 12:43:14 PM
I thought that was the English spelling??
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 11 June, 2012, 12:45:32 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 June, 2012, 12:19:14 PM
Amazingly Megaforce cost $20 million back in 1982. That's 2 Star Wars.
Unbelievable...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 June, 2012, 12:47:53 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 11 June, 2012, 12:41:46 PM
Is Michael Molcher American, because he's used the US spelling of Judgment with an extra 'e' in the news section which doesn't match the poster. :-[

That's the British spelling, the poster is the US poster as it has the US release date.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 11 June, 2012, 12:52:35 PM
Apparently you can use both spellings in the UK but no 'e' in the US, you learn something new every day, apologies michael.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 June, 2012, 12:55:29 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 11 June, 2012, 05:59:37 AM
Oops...I just accidentally hit 'Report to a moderator'...on your comment as I moved the page my finger...sorry, Stan. Does anyone know how best to undo that report?  :-[

No probs. I think I should avoid a banning.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 June, 2012, 01:01:00 PM
Just back from Download festival so very late to the party but that teaser poster is minimalist beauty and those accompanying images are perfect!

I can not wait!!! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 11 June, 2012, 01:12:23 PM
The lack of an 'e' in judgment confused me at first. But apparently, not only are both acceptable in the uk- with the extra e being unacceptable elsewhere- but the correct usage when meant in a legal context (as dredd is by definition) is 'judgment'. So not only is it correct, but it's quite clever too. And using 'judgement' would be just plain wrong, wherever you are in the world.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 11 June, 2012, 01:14:54 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 June, 2012, 12:39:23 AM
As long as there's a scene exactly like this I'll be happy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1NpZxn860M

Ooh, that reminds me. There's a scene in BABYLON 5 which has a bemused Delenn watching a cartoon with Garibaldi laughing lie a loon at it. I'm convinced I've seen something very similar years before in some crappy sci fi movie. MEGAFORCE, perhaps?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 11 June, 2012, 01:16:58 PM
wasn't that when Garibaldi showed her his second favourite thing ever, Duck Dodgers
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 11 June, 2012, 01:58:56 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 11 June, 2012, 01:12:23 PM
The lack of an 'e' in judgment confused me at first. But apparently, not only are both acceptable in the uk- with the extra e being unacceptable elsewhere- but the correct usage when meant in a legal context (as dredd is by definition) is 'judgment'. So not only is it correct, but it's quite clever too. And using 'judgement' would be just plain wrong, wherever you are in the world.

SBT
Justified!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 11 June, 2012, 03:28:55 PM
So the difference between the US and UK cover of Judg(e)ment On Gotham wasn't necessary?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 11 June, 2012, 03:42:31 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 11 June, 2012, 01:16:58 PM
wasn't that when Garibaldi showed her his second favourite thing ever, Duck Dodgers

Heh. Well, I haven't seen the episode since it was first broadcast on Channel 4 so I couldn't tell you what cartoon it was. I do though remember thinking I'd seen Jerry Doyle (not that it actually was him) do pretty much the same scene in something else.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 June, 2012, 03:56:40 PM
Sorry, dont know why I do it, as notice the beautiful picture of Mega-City 1 and I just got idea for poster...?

(http://i.imgur.com/UpTqR.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 11 June, 2012, 03:59:50 PM
That's ace Goaty.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 11 June, 2012, 04:01:02 PM
Nice work Goaty!  Love how Dredd's silhouette forms the centre of the "D"!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 June, 2012, 04:02:22 PM
Thanks, I start love it, I saved it as my work iMac wallpaper!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 11 June, 2012, 04:05:05 PM
That's awesome!!

Do I, or do I not boot my fav. concept image from the show I'm working on in favour of that.. Dilemmas!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 June, 2012, 04:08:14 PM
That works really well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 11 June, 2012, 04:09:49 PM
Thats very nice indeed Goaty :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 11 June, 2012, 04:12:22 PM
Very well done :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 June, 2012, 04:17:00 PM
Cool!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mike Carroll on 11 June, 2012, 04:32:11 PM
Ooh, nice work, Goaty! I love that!

-- Mike
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 June, 2012, 05:26:10 PM
Thanks! It does looks fab on my work screen!

(http://i.imgur.com/RYa1M.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 June, 2012, 05:32:37 PM
Nice. I've been meaning to rid my screen of that horrid rolling hills. :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 June, 2012, 05:52:13 PM
Collider have hi-res versions of the two shots without the stupid 'watermarks':



http://collider.com/dredd-killing-them-softly-movie-images/172333/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 June, 2012, 06:45:19 PM
Ah that's better. I really love the ruthlessness that comes across in the top pic. 5 dead perps and  he is just strolling though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 June, 2012, 06:45:48 PM
Still trying to work out that middle block...

Looks like it says Prometheus(?)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 11 June, 2012, 06:51:37 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 June, 2012, 05:26:10 PM
Thanks! It does looks fab on my work screen!

(http://i.imgur.com/RYa1M.jpg)
Nice one!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 11 June, 2012, 06:56:08 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 11 June, 2012, 06:45:48 PM
Still trying to work out that middle block...

Looks like it says Prometheus(?)

I have tried and tried and still can't work it out  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 11 June, 2012, 06:56:19 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 June, 2012, 05:52:13 PM
Collider have hi-res versions of the two shots without the stupid 'watermarks':

http://collider.com/dredd-killing-them-softly-movie-images/172333/
Nice hi-res pics. Just noticed one dead perp has a face tattoo and wings on his shoulder. Graffiti 'Money Pleez' and 'don't look back' and 'beboo'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 11 June, 2012, 06:57:19 PM
...and seemingly a bath tub with what looks like a jewellery box...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 11 June, 2012, 06:58:40 PM
Actually , thanks to those hi-res images , it does indeed look like Prometheus.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 June, 2012, 07:02:23 PM
Looks like Elysium on the left - which is a bit weird, since Elysian Heights was in the 95 film practical set.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 11 June, 2012, 07:07:23 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 11 June, 2012, 06:58:40 PM
Actually , thanks to those hi-res images , it does indeed look like Prometheus.

I think you're right!!
Comparing the letters with the STERNMHAMMER...M...I see
P - R - O - M - E (the E's have a rounded back) next likely a T THEN M....so I think you nailed it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 11 June, 2012, 07:09:52 PM
It is 'Prometheus'. Other one looks like 'Eustace'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 11 June, 2012, 07:11:42 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 11 June, 2012, 06:45:48 PM
Still trying to work out that middle block...

Looks like it says Prometheus(?)

Steve Green nailed it...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 June, 2012, 07:12:06 PM
What's stranger is the other one with the pink/red sign that's obscured also looks like it says Prometheus.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 11 June, 2012, 07:12:21 PM
It was Steve Green who nailed it first - I couldn't work it out until Soapy linked the hi-res images  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 11 June, 2012, 07:14:17 PM
I've decided that the far left one is ELYSIUM?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 June, 2012, 07:14:51 PM
It so great the film crew got sense of humour with in-jokes of City-Blocks names!

Thanks Mr Soap for link, wish I use that to my "poster"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 11 June, 2012, 07:17:44 PM
Funny...it is great to see that trademark humour.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 June, 2012, 07:19:57 PM
Avengers Assemble, Battleship and John Carter are just out of shot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 11 June, 2012, 07:25:11 PM
'PROM' on the building behind 'prometheus' too. Has anyone figured out the blue letters to the left of screen?...E L V S I M M ???
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 June, 2012, 07:33:49 PM
Sorry again with annoying post about that poster, but gotta to says it looks wow on my iPhone!

(http://i.imgur.com/ugHsI.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 June, 2012, 07:37:21 PM
Elysium.

A couple of posts back.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 11 June, 2012, 07:43:15 PM
I do like that lockscreen Goaty! I changed my splash screen to the one below, but I think I might have to borrow this one too! very nice.
(http://i.imgur.com/xwpLI.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 11 June, 2012, 08:11:58 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 11 June, 2012, 07:37:21 PM
Elysium.

A couple of posts back.

Ah!,thanks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 11 June, 2012, 08:13:37 PM
Just finished watching The Raid. I have to say having read the leaked script to Dredd that the two films seem to be very similar story wise, even with some similar situations. But there are enough differences to make them extremely different films in the end. The one big difference is that the Raid is Primarily a Martial arts movie.

I think Dredd is bigger in scope and Judging by the slomo previz that came out last week it will have a very different visual feel to it.

One thing that occurred to me was how similar in feel the Raid's score is to the Drokk album. Maybe this  is why the producers of Dredd went another way with their soundtrack.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 11 June, 2012, 08:16:19 PM
Eh? Drokk sounds nothing like The Raid ost.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 11 June, 2012, 08:23:45 PM
Depends whether you watched the Indonesian or Euro/US print-the different soundtracks!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 June, 2012, 08:28:24 PM
Yeah I think they will be different enough too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 11 June, 2012, 09:58:52 PM
What's the name of the building on the far right

_ustac_?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 June, 2012, 09:59:36 PM
Eustace.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 11 June, 2012, 10:02:55 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 June, 2012, 09:59:36 PM
Eustace.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 June, 2012, 11:27:51 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 June, 2012, 06:45:19 PM
Ah that's better. I really love the ruthlessness that comes across in the top pic. 5 dead perps and  he is just strolling though.

Yeah, I'm torn between that and the Meg shot. Reminds me of Robocop.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 12 June, 2012, 12:00:45 AM
US Hollywood Reporter giving Dredd some love:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/dredd-poster-karl-urban-john-wagner-335868

Here's what's so effective about the marketing so far: Complete separation from the Stallone version. It gets mentioned but within the first line of almost every article you read now coupled with these released images, everyone knows it's not a reboot or remake. It's a brand new version.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 01:00:02 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 June, 2012, 12:39:23 AM
As long as there's a scene exactly like this I'll be happy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1NpZxn860M


(http://img.filmous.com/static/photos/17838/poster.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9Zfdwv5BGT0/TxA3hrEbXGI/AAAAAAAAI5c/KkI_9UQhDek/s1600/megaforce3.png)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ID0Ra6jHzcw/TxA3eOGvEsI/AAAAAAAAI5U/kbQW6w8tsG8/s1600/megaforce2.jpg)


The whole shebang's on youtube; Noel Edmonds greatest role. Don't miss it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Uc_X4jPlx4&feature=related
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 12 June, 2012, 01:11:21 AM
Maybe this has been brought up before, but DREDD was co-produced by IMAX? They're listed on DNA's wiki page. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_Films)
Wiki's the only place I've seen IMAX mentioned, though. Has anyone read anything about the movie being released in IMAX?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 01:20:17 AM
It's not shot on an IMAX camera so I don't see the point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 12 June, 2012, 01:25:39 AM
BIGGER SCREEN is the point! Most movies that are released in IMAX aren't shot with IMAX Cameras. Plus it seems to be helping movies more and more at the box office.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 01:35:11 AM
The digital blow-up of the 2K/4K smaller frame to the IMAX size results in a big reduction in image quality, there's a trade-off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 12 June, 2012, 01:44:13 AM
If there's a big dip in image quality, I haven't  noticed it. IMAX always improves the theater experience for me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 01:47:19 AM
You'd need to compare it with a normal sized projection to know.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 12 June, 2012, 01:49:56 AM
I've seen the same movie on an IMAX and a regular screen before. IMAX always looks better to me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 01:53:27 AM
Bigger or better?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 12 June, 2012, 01:55:58 AM
Both.
I think bigger and better screens is the trend Hollywood should be concentrating on, not 3D.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 02:06:36 AM
With higher resolution cameras like the RED EPIC that shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 12 June, 2012, 06:35:01 AM
DREDD website became live overnight.

http://www.dreddthemovie.com/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 12 June, 2012, 06:42:52 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 June, 2012, 06:35:01 AM
DREDD website became live overnight.

http://www.dreddthemovie.com/
Nice one...just tweeted that. Judgement, and a trailer, is..coming
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 12 June, 2012, 07:42:37 AM
Nice and ready for the trailer....my moneys (now) on Batman or San Diego both next month...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 12 June, 2012, 08:08:12 AM
I see 'Stone Jones' (-deep sigh-) is working his magic over on the Dredd Facebook.  He can 'prove the film is terrible' because he's noticed a 'slummy type midground' in some of the leaked footage.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 June, 2012, 08:15:08 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 12 June, 2012, 08:08:12 AM
I see 'Stone Jones' (-deep sigh-) is working his magic over on the Dredd Facebook.  He can 'prove the film is terrible' because he's noticed a 'slummy type midground' in some of the leaked footage.

Grr! It was "Stone Jones" as well in Digital Spy Forum, as he was praised over the Dredd movie poster last week, funny as two weeks ago he says in IMDB that Dredd will be straight to DVD!

All cos over THAT FEW SECS UNTESTED FOOTAGE!
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 12 June, 2012, 08:23:59 AM
And I totally believed him when he said he was quitting the web. I feel such a fool.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 12 June, 2012, 08:33:55 AM
I keep seeing the poster shared on various facebook groups, and elsewhere- and the responses seem to be:

Is it real?
Is stallone involved?
It's not real if stallone's not involved!

(then one of you lot pops up to them a history lesson)

The lack of a trailer or any advance publicity at all may have backfired a bit, i think. On the other hand, short sharp shock and awe may be the intention. Who knows?

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 12 June, 2012, 08:40:01 AM
Not sure if this pest we hear so much about could be considered a 'Dredd'd' troll...but they can't hide under bridges anymore...not sure this helps in this case as I don't know that there have been any personal attacks or whatnot...http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16245551
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: skurvy on 12 June, 2012, 09:37:11 AM
The official website is up: http://www.dreddthemovie.com/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 June, 2012, 10:51:43 AM
Good. At last there will be an official Web site for DREDD Movie news rather than second hand, rumour mill in overdrive stuff you seem to find on some Film/Comic related websites.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 12 June, 2012, 11:04:31 AM
Good start. Looking forward to seeing more content over the coming weeks/months.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 12 June, 2012, 11:09:00 AM
Oops!The synopsis has `executioner`mis-spelt as`eecutioner` :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 12 June, 2012, 11:22:20 AM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 12 June, 2012, 11:09:00 AM
Oops!The synopsis has `executioner`mis-spelt as`eecutioner` :o

Beat me to it.The synopsis also ends midway 'Dredd is assigned to train'...or is that a fault at my end?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 12 June, 2012, 11:28:52 AM
Scroll the text down?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 12 June, 2012, 11:39:04 AM
Tried that, didn't work -must be some fault at my end.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 12 June, 2012, 11:40:38 AM
red vertical bar next to the synopsis button is the scroll tab. Its not massively instinctive
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 12 June, 2012, 11:43:25 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 12 June, 2012, 11:40:38 AM
red vertical bar next to the synopsis button is the scroll tab. Its not massively instinctive

C'mon dude, even I worked that out, and I'm practically a Luddite.  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 12 June, 2012, 11:54:23 AM
No I knew that bit guys ! I'm not writing with crayons here  :P.Fixed it now ,had some lock on my computer.

Site looks good.Excellent poster to work with helps, hopefully more material will be added soon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 12 June, 2012, 11:58:59 AM
Not the real thing, sadly, but just found this on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pCW8Dm3Qcs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pCW8Dm3Qcs)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 June, 2012, 12:46:23 PM
I am slightly confused why they only put the facebook address on the teaser poster when they were going to put up a proper website a couple of days later.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 12 June, 2012, 01:14:42 PM
The twitter page is good. https://twitter.com/#!/lionsgatemovies
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 June, 2012, 01:23:30 PM
Yes that Lionsgate twitter is good to follow.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 June, 2012, 01:26:45 PM
Yep it's a great way to keep up with all the latest news about What to Expect When You're Expecting.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buddy on 12 June, 2012, 01:32:34 PM
Quote from: skurvy on 12 June, 2012, 09:37:11 AM
The official website is up: http://www.dreddthemovie.com/

Anyone else spotted the typo in the synopsis??
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buddy on 12 June, 2012, 01:33:50 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 12 June, 2012, 11:22:20 AM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 12 June, 2012, 11:09:00 AM
Oops!The synopsis has `executioner`mis-spelt as`eecutioner` :o

Beat me to it.The synopsis also ends midway 'Dredd is assigned to train'...or is that a fault at my end?

D'oh!

Well beaten to it there!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 12 June, 2012, 01:42:52 PM
Probably been posted somewhere before but it terms of gross worldwide box office revenue what would the Dredd movie need to reach to practically guarantee a sequel?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 June, 2012, 01:56:56 PM
At least double it's budget ($70-80m), more likely three times it's budget ($100m+).

I have only a very rudimentary understanding of these things, so take this with a pinch of salt, but I get the impression that as it is an independent, international, non-Hollywood production, there isn't as much riding on a big opening weekend at the US Box Office as there is for most modern films of this type. I expect the filmmakers will have an eye on the international market, and take into account DVD/BD/VoD sales as this is probably where the film will make alarge share of it's money.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 12 June, 2012, 01:59:33 PM
Quote from: radiator on 12 June, 2012, 01:26:45 PM
Yep it's a great way to keep up with all the latest news about What to Expect When You're Expecting.

Just noticed that...what the hell are they filling it up with that for?...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 June, 2012, 02:10:33 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 12 June, 2012, 01:59:33 PM
Quote from: radiator on 12 June, 2012, 01:26:45 PM
Yep it's a great way to keep up with all the latest news about What to Expect When You're Expecting.

Just noticed that...what the hell are they filling it up with that for?...

Silly question, cos it's is Lionsgate's film, they are promote it...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 12 June, 2012, 01:42:52 PM
Probably been posted somewhere before but it terms of gross worldwide box office revenue what would the Dredd movie need to reach to practically guarantee a sequel?


Theatres take around 20% of box-office takings in the first week, it falls to around 60-50% thereafter. So realistically it needs to make around 2 times the budget to break-even and 3 times to justify a sequel. Some of the budget, if not most, has been made back in distribution deals.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 02:19:35 PM
District 9 made about 6 times original budget.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: norse_sage on 12 June, 2012, 02:30:39 PM
Actually, the US opening weekend means a lot, because regardless of wether the movie is a studio or independent production; the US opening weekend will label it as a flop or a hit. May not be accurate in a technical sense, but the label will stick.

How the movie fares in the US or the UK means nothing to the bottom line of, say, ze german or deh norwegian distributor, but if audiences in those countries percieve that Dredd is a flop from the entertainment news, twitter or RSS feed; many who otherwise would consider going won't waste their money on a flop and a troubled production (and that will be back in full force). If it turns out to be labelled as a hit, the opposite is true - then many who otherwise would have dismissed it as a Stallone remake might give it a chance, "since so many seem to like it". And this perception can indeed affect the bottom line of local distributors and thus sequel prospects.

In order to secure a sequel, the movie must create profits for a majority of the local distributors worldwide.

My guesstimate would be that if it manages to secure 50 mill + in the US and 50 + worldwide, most if not all stakeholders are in the black and ready for a sequel. Less then that, and things aren't so sure.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 12 June, 2012, 02:34:32 PM

Just noticed that...what the hell are they filling it up with that for?...
[/quote]

Silly question, cos it's is Lionsgate's film, they are promote it...
[/quote]
Then it should be a general lionsgate page...not a specifically Dredd page promoting 'Sheepless in Seattle' or whatnot...unless Dredd the kicks the door at some point and riot-foams Jennifer Lopez for being Jennifer Lopez....then I'd see the point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 12 June, 2012, 02:36:28 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 12 June, 2012, 02:34:32 PM
unless Dredd the kicks the door at some point and riot-foams Jennifer Lopez for being Jennifer Lopez....then I'd see the point.
And we'd all go see the movie
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 02:42:44 PM
Quote from: norse_sage on 12 June, 2012, 02:30:39 PM
Actually, the US opening weekend means a lot, because regardless of wether the movie is a studio or independent production; the US opening weekend will label it as a flop or a hit. May not be accurate in a technical sense, but the label will stick.

How the movie fares in the US or the UK means nothing to the bottom line of, say, ze german or deh norwegian distributor, but if audiences in those countries percieve that Dredd is a flop from the entertainment news, twitter or RSS feed; many who otherwise would consider going won't waste their money on a flop and a troubled production (and that will be back in full force). If it turns out to be labelled as a hit, the opposite is true - then many who otherwise would have dismissed it as a Stallone remake might give it a chance, "since so many seem to like it". And this perception can indeed affect the bottom line of local distributors and thus sequel prospects.



That's why it's being released in the UK & Ireland first.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 12 June, 2012, 02:43:19 PM
The important thing over here in the US is to make sure it's marketed properly. Better to concentrate on selling it as a kick-ass hyper-violent action movie a la Rambo or The Expendables than worrying about whether people have read Dredd in a comic before. (They haven't, judging by most of the forums I've been looking at.) Stallone casts a long shadow between Dredd's previous incarnation onscreen and people who constantly confuse it with Demolition Man. Securing the comic geeks isn't going to be enough on this side of the pond to make the box office this movie needs...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: brendan1 on 12 June, 2012, 02:47:09 PM
Quote from: norse_sage on 12 June, 2012, 02:30:39 PM
Actually, the US opening weekend means a lot, because regardless of wether the movie is a studio or independent production; the US opening weekend will label it as a flop or a hit. May not be accurate in a technical sense, but the label will stick.

How the movie fares in the US or the UK means nothing to the bottom line of, say, ze german or deh norwegian distributor, but if audiences in those countries percieve that Dredd is a flop from the entertainment news, twitter or RSS feed; many who otherwise would consider going won't waste their money on a flop and a troubled production (and that will be back in full force). If it turns out to be labelled as a hit, the opposite is true - then many who otherwise would have dismissed it as a Stallone remake might give it a chance, "since so many seem to like it". And this perception can indeed affect the bottom line of local distributors and thus sequel prospects.

In order to secure a sequel, the movie must create profits for a majority of the local distributors worldwide.

My guesstimate would be that if it manages to secure 50 mill + in the US and 50 + worldwide, most if not all stakeholders are in the black and ready for a sequel. Less then that, and things aren't so sure.

Opening BO is very important, yes, but the "sleeper" phenomenon is still valid. Although its definition does vary a lot.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 02:48:41 PM
From the Lionsgate twitter feed:

DREDD 3D‏@lionsgatemovies

Get ready to gaze into the face of #Dredd![/b[



Somebody should tell 'em we're not supposed to see Dredd's face and it's his fist , if it were in context.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 02:49:28 PM
Quote from: brendan1 on 12 June, 2012, 02:47:09 PM

Opening BO is very important, yes, but the "sleeper" phenomenon is still valid. Although its definition does vary a lot.


My opening BO stinks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 June, 2012, 02:49:53 PM
In terms of films I actually recognise there doesn't seem to be much competition in September. Unless I count Resident Evil: Retribution, which I didn't even know existed until about 30 seconds ago. And even then I kinda lost interest in that franchise when it stopped being about zombies.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 02:50:45 PM
Looper is the only other sci-fi film later in the month.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 12 June, 2012, 02:51:13 PM
Quote from: Stan on 12 June, 2012, 02:49:53 PM
In terms of films I actually recognise there doesn't seem to be much competition in September. Unless I count Resident Evil: Retribution, which I didn't even know existed until about 30 seconds ago. And even then I kinda lost interest in that franchise when it stopped being about zombies.

Was that thirty seconds into the first one, like me?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: norse_sage on 12 June, 2012, 02:56:27 PM
Quote from: brendan1 on 12 June, 2012, 02:47:09 PM
Opening BO is very important, yes, but the "sleeper" phenomenon is still valid. Although its definition does vary a lot.

The thing is that sleepers are few and far between. They are the exception, and not the rule.
The rule is that if the movie doesn't deliver in its opening weekend, then for the most part it is finished.

Fingers crossed Dredd will not only have a decent weekend, but also respectable legs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 12 June, 2012, 03:00:46 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 02:48:41 PM
From the Lionsgate twitter feed:

DREDD 3D‏@lionsgatemovies

Get ready to gaze into the face of #Dredd![/b[



Somebody should tell 'em we're not supposed to see Dredd's face and it's his fist , if it were in context.
Imminent trailer drop? is this from today?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 June, 2012, 03:01:38 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 02:50:45 PM
Looper is the only other sci-fi film later in the month.

I wasn't aware of that but it does look interesting. Not really something I'd see at the cinema myself though.

Quote from: Misanthrope on 12 June, 2012, 02:51:13 PM
Was that thirty seconds into the first one, like me?

I can actually tolerate the first one, but then I do own Extinction and Spiderman 3.  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 12 June, 2012, 03:11:42 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 12 June, 2012, 02:36:28 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 12 June, 2012, 02:34:32 PM
unless Dredd the kicks the door at some point and riot-foams Jennifer Lopez for being Jennifer Lopez....then I'd see the point.
And we'd all go see the movie
I'd like that REAL 3D!...and that should have been 'unless Dredd kicks the door in at some point and riot-foams Jennifer Lopez for being Jennifer Lopez....then I'd see the point (in tweeting other Lionsgate films on the Dredd twitterfeed.'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 12 June, 2012, 03:20:05 PM
I'd 'riot foam' Jennifer Lopez; I'd 'riot foam' her good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 12 June, 2012, 03:31:54 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 12 June, 2012, 03:20:05 PM
I'd 'riot foam' Jennifer Lopez; I'd 'riot foam' her good.
:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 12 June, 2012, 03:50:21 PM
thank god you didn't mention kicking in her back doors.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 June, 2012, 04:00:39 PM
I think opening in the UK first will help it at the US box office. In the UK people will be more aware of Dredd and give it perhaps/hopefully a slightly biased reviews bigging it up as it is based on a UK comic, and is independent, and also a bit risky as it is an R.

Also, if it is good that will help a lot too! :D

So then when it hits US there will hopefully be some hype surrounding it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 05:14:30 PM
I think they should premiere it in my living room.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 June, 2012, 05:24:05 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 05:14:30 PM
I think they should premiere it in my living room.

I think your Home Entertainment need upgraded.

(http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/members-home-cinema-gallery/64719d1193380120-woodywizzs-small-living-room-home-cinema-time-change-methinks-gramaphone.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 05:49:14 PM
It's vintage, just like the Pat-Wagons.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 June, 2012, 06:49:23 PM
I think I missed that pic in Mr Eliminator's avatar. Does anyone have the full version?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 12 June, 2012, 06:56:41 PM
I don't think anyone's sussed the blue block text yet. It looks like ELYSIUM, which is the title of Neill Blomkamp's forthcoming sci-fi film, and perhaps something else the matte artist was working on.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 June, 2012, 07:03:21 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 June, 2012, 06:56:41 PM
I don't think anyone's sussed the blue block text yet. It looks like ELYSIUM, which is the title of Neill Blomkamp's forthcoming sci-fi film, and perhaps something else the matte artist was working on.

Wow, too much time on it, CN? Ooh think many of you getting BluRay of Dredd so you would paused every time on each City-Blocks to see what text on it says, that would be great in-jokes they done!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 12 June, 2012, 07:10:36 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 11 June, 2012, 07:14:17 PM
I've decided that the far left one is ELYSIUM?

...erm  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 12 June, 2012, 07:15:22 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 June, 2012, 06:56:41 PM
I don't think anyone's sussed the blue block text yet. It looks like ELYSIUM, which is the title of Neill Blomkamp's forthcoming sci-fi film, and perhaps something else the matte artist was working on.

The Detective in you coming out once more Crave.
It certainly looks like ELYSIUM :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 June, 2012, 07:17:55 PM
Quote from: Stan on 12 June, 2012, 06:49:23 PM
I think I missed that pic in Mr Eliminator's avatar. Does anyone have the full version?

It's not very big or good quality. Think it is a magazine contents page scan.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 12 June, 2012, 07:41:33 PM
Stupid Dredd article: http://social.entertainment.msn.com/movies/blogs/the-hitlist-blogpost.aspx?post=8ee992ae-b8b3-4012-9b61-7b64acd6ddef

My response to said stupid Dredd article:

Thing is, this isn't a remake. Not even 'quasi-'. The author seems to be under the impression that the 1995 movie starring Sylvester Stallone is the original incarnation of this character. If that were the case, and Stallone's 1995 train wreck were the only source material 'Dredd' had to draw upon, I would be inclined to agree that the chances of this movie being any good were slim.

In reality, however, 'Dredd' has 35 years of excellent comic book material to draw upon for inspiration, running into tens of thousands of pages. Material which, incidentally, the 1995 Stallone incarnation chose by and large to ignore, or outright contradict.

To predict that this movie will 'probably be horrible' based on Stallone's version is therefore just as ridiculous as it would have been, back in 1989, to base one's expectations of Tim Burton's 'Batman' on the 1966 version starring Adam West.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 12 June, 2012, 07:45:49 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 12 June, 2012, 07:10:36 PM
...erm  ;)

Apologies to you, sir. Well done. There's a lot to wade though some days! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 12 June, 2012, 07:48:53 PM
I'll admit , I couldn't have worked it out if Joe hadn't put those hi-res images up. I tried on the originals but damn my eyes , just couldn't do it. I'd love to see how many more names can be worked out from upcoming images.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 June, 2012, 08:19:18 PM
*cough* first *cough* ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 June, 2012, 08:22:55 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 12 June, 2012, 07:41:33 PM
Stupid Dredd article: http://social.entertainment.msn.com/movies/blogs/the-hitlist-blogpost.aspx?post=8ee992ae-b8b3-4012-9b61-7b64acd6ddef


Quite an opinionated article for something he clearly knows nothing about. What a c**t.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 12 June, 2012, 08:58:27 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 12 June, 2012, 07:41:33 PM
Stupid Dredd article: http://social.entertainment.msn.com/movies/blogs/the-hitlist-blogpost.aspx?post=8ee992ae-b8b3-4012-9b61-7b64acd6ddef

My response to said stupid Dredd article:

Thing is, this isn't a remake. Not even 'quasi-'. The author seems to be under the impression that the 1995 movie starring Sylvester Stallone is the original incarnation of this character. If that were the case, and Stallone's 1995 train wreck were the only source material 'Dredd' had to draw upon, I would be inclined to agree that the chances of this movie being any good were slim.

In reality, however, 'Dredd' has 35 years of excellent comic book material to draw upon for inspiration, running into tens of thousands of pages. Material which, incidentally, the 1995 Stallone incarnation chose by and large to ignore, or outright contradict.

To predict that this movie will 'probably be horrible' based on Stallone's version is therefore just as ridiculous as it would have been, back in 1989, to base one's expectations of Tim Burton's 'Batman' on the 1966 version starring Adam West.

Owned
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 12 June, 2012, 09:10:00 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 12 June, 2012, 08:58:27 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 12 June, 2012, 07:41:33 PM
Stupid Dredd article: http://social.entertainment.msn.com/movies/blogs/the-hitlist-blogpost.aspx?post=8ee992ae-b8b3-4012-9b61-7b64acd6ddef

My response to said stupid Dredd article:

Thing is, this isn't a remake. Not even 'quasi-'. The author seems to be under the impression that the 1995 movie starring Sylvester Stallone is the original incarnation of this character. If that were the case, and Stallone's 1995 train wreck were the only source material 'Dredd' had to draw upon, I would be inclined to agree that the chances of this movie being any good were slim.

In reality, however, 'Dredd' has 35 years of excellent comic book material to draw upon for inspiration, running into tens of thousands of pages. Material which, incidentally, the 1995 Stallone incarnation chose by and large to ignore, or outright contradict.

To predict that this movie will 'probably be horrible' based on Stallone's version is therefore just as ridiculous as it would have been, back in 1989, to base one's expectations of Tim Burton's 'Batman' on the 1966 version starring Adam West.

Owned
Owned + 1 , good reply to that ignorant bollox!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 June, 2012, 09:20:24 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 June, 2012, 07:17:55 PM
Quote from: Stan on 12 June, 2012, 06:49:23 PM
I think I missed that pic in Mr Eliminator's avatar. Does anyone have the full version?

It's not very big or good quality. Think it is a magazine contents page scan.

Aaah, thanks. That would explain why I haven't seen it. He does pose with a gun quite well though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 June, 2012, 09:23:17 PM
Quote from: Stan on 12 June, 2012, 09:20:24 PM
Aaah, thanks. That would explain why I haven't seen it. He does pose with a gun quite well though.

I don't understand why they haven't released all the old magazine shots in good quality though, much nicer to look at then the scans.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 June, 2012, 09:29:31 PM
It's a actually bigger then I thought, but yeah still not great quality. Cropped out all the text and stuff a while ago so can't remember what mag, but I think it was empire.

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2i8vk3b.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 12 June, 2012, 11:23:57 PM
http://iconmovies.com.au/Movies/D/Dredd.aspx
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 11:27:15 PM
Some clean versions in that link.


(http://iconmovies.com.au/~/media/Images/D/Dredd/DREDD_still2large.ashx)




(http://iconmovies.com.au/~/media/Images/D/Dredd/DREDD_still3large.ashx)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 June, 2012, 11:44:25 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 13 June, 2012, 12:43:56 AM
That pic of Dredd booting the door in somehow reminds me of him and Hershey pulling some 59c's in the Graveyard Shift, dunno why.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 13 June, 2012, 12:49:54 AM
The lighting on that second pic is gorgeous.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 13 June, 2012, 02:13:36 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 13 June, 2012, 12:43:56 AM
That pic of Dredd booting the door in somehow reminds me of him and Hershey pulling some 59c's in the Graveyard Shift, dunno why.

Know what you mean, that's a very Ron Smith door-kick.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 13 June, 2012, 02:28:50 AM
Re. that msn article: maybe I'm just getting old and grouchy, but there does seem to be a lot of under-researched, under-thought articles being published online. I'd expect something like that on a comment thread, but not from someone who (presumably) has an editor and gets paid for writing!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 13 June, 2012, 02:30:49 AM
Quote from: Syne on 13 June, 2012, 02:28:50 AM
Re. that msn article: maybe I'm just getting old and grouchy, but there does seem to be a lot of under-researched, under-thought articles being published online. I'd expect something like that on a comment thread, but not from someone who (presumably) has an editor and gets paid for writing!

just goes to show just how little actual cultural penetration Judge Dredd has over here. Which is why this movie being legit good is so important.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 13 June, 2012, 02:55:16 AM
Quote from: Syne on 13 June, 2012, 02:28:50 AM
Re. that msn article: maybe I'm just getting old and grouchy, but there does seem to be a lot of under-researched, under-thought articles being published online. I'd expect something like that on a comment thread, but not from someone who (presumably) has an editor and gets paid for writing!

Welcome to the internet and so-called "online journalism"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 13 June, 2012, 05:50:08 AM
My english is not sooooo good but does this article about "who might appear on sdcc 2012" also sound "not so good" to you?
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118055419?refCatId=13

""Relativity Media brought three titles to Comic-Con last year, but won't be back for 2012, as the studio has nothing on its slate that makes sense for the confab.""

""In the past, studios have opted not to present at Comic-Con when footage of R-rated films proved too risque for the more family-oriented crowd that has embraced the confab over the years. Organizers have limited studios from playing certain violent or graphic clips to appease the changing demo over the years. Comedies also haven't played well with the 6,000 attendees that pack Hall H. ""
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 13 June, 2012, 07:29:27 AM
Dredd at Comic-Con could go either way to be honest. It's not an ideal place to debut footage frankly as there's so much competition and it's 'make or break' with a bunch of predominantly Marvel/DC fanboys. Has a film ever debuted at Comic-Con and done well? Scott Pilgrim was a huge hit there and flopped (undeservedly, in my opinion). I'm not sure Nolan ever showed any of his Batman films there.

I was at the Watchmen film panel a few years back and the room was going crazy for footage that, to me, looked a little bit crap. Added to that was a moderator who took the piss out of Alan Moore (to rapturous applause, with Dave Gibbons noticeably uncomfortable on the panel) whilst some of the folks I talked to around me just couldn't understand why he wouldn't take the money and shut up. Oh and they forbade anyone going up and asking a question about Moore (the moderator did throw Mr. Snyder a softball question at the start)!

I think in recent years some movie studios have realised that SDCC is more risk than reward. Bad word of mouth can kill your film dead while good word of mouth doesn't seem to help with box office in the end. What's in it for them?

Still, I'm not sure if Dredd's presence at SDCC would be a good idea or bad. Presumably (!) the trailer will be out before it happens so there probably wouldn't be much to show anyway?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 13 June, 2012, 09:19:44 AM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 12 June, 2012, 07:41:33 PM
Stupid Dredd article: http://social.entertainment.msn.com/movies/blogs/the-hitlist-blogpost.aspx?post=8ee992ae-b8b3-4012-9b61-7b64acd6ddef

My response to said stupid Dredd article:

Thing is, this isn't a remake. Not even 'quasi-'. The author seems to be under the impression that the 1995 movie starring Sylvester Stallone is the original incarnation of this character. If that were the case, and Stallone's 1995 train wreck were the only source material 'Dredd' had to draw upon, I would be inclined to agree that the chances of this movie being any good were slim.

In reality, however, 'Dredd' has 35 years of excellent comic book material to draw upon for inspiration, running into tens of thousands of pages. Material which, incidentally, the 1995 Stallone incarnation chose by and large to ignore, or outright contradict.

To predict that this movie will 'probably be horrible' based on Stallone's version is therefore just as ridiculous as it would have been, back in 1989, to base one's expectations of Tim Burton's 'Batman' on the 1966 version starring Adam West.

An excellent, well written response, Mark. I've stuck my oar in as well, as has our own Mr Burdis, I see...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 June, 2012, 09:25:04 AM
Here's a better one...http://www.entertainment-focus.com/news/dredd-is-coming
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 June, 2012, 10:31:18 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 13 June, 2012, 09:25:04 AM
Here's a better one...http://www.entertainment-focus.com/news/dredd-is-coming


but it doesn't say anything other than repeat the synopsis.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 June, 2012, 10:38:41 AM
 True...but with such effusive lingo -   highly anticipated   inventive minds   stunning slow motion photography  the celebrated comic character   revered comic strip    incredible score
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 June, 2012, 10:45:07 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 13 June, 2012, 10:38:41 AM
True...but with such effusive lingo -   highly anticipated   inventive minds   stunning slow motion photography  the celebrated comic character   revered comic strip    incredible score


Isn't it endlessly inventive, which sounds like a condition rather than a talent. What does that make Wagner & Ezquerra, imaginatively finite?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 June, 2012, 10:50:27 AM
I hesitated about including that one...it's true, sounds like a chronic malady. But the positive way it's put made me wonder if the site was independent. Perhaps someone here saw the film at Cannes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 June, 2012, 10:51:27 AM
Unless they'd heard the score ...for example.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 June, 2012, 10:56:41 AM
Sigh...'Unless they'd heard the score, how could they be so positive ...for example.' ...I mean.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 13 June, 2012, 11:36:06 AM
A friend of a friend sums up our feelings beautifully!

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-X86yjAh_fLI/T9hcD5l677I/AAAAAAAAARo/BVObHio1UFI/s1600/DreddTrailerCreep_byQW.jpg)

http://quintonwinter.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/dredd-for-fun.html (http://quintonwinter.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/dredd-for-fun.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 June, 2012, 11:43:41 AM
Nice.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 June, 2012, 01:16:04 PM
Total Film got nice new feature today online, it about 50 Greatest Movie Events Of 2012 So Far...

Guess what on No.23?  :D

http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-greatest-movie-events-of-2012-so-far/judgment-is-coming (http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-greatest-movie-events-of-2012-so-far/judgment-is-coming)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 13 June, 2012, 01:28:12 PM
I thought it was just this forum, but if Total Film rater the release of a teaser poster amongst the top 50 movie events of the year then anticipation for Dredd must be insanely high!

Then again, their number 1 was for the release of a trailer. Huh?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 13 June, 2012, 01:29:07 PM
('rate' not 'rater' - I hate the lack of an edit button)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 13 June, 2012, 01:32:29 PM
@PreacherCain: Hm.... thank you for the warning and very good explanation, and not to be much disappointed if there is no Karl on sdcc2012  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 13 June, 2012, 01:46:58 PM
Quote from: Noisybast on 13 June, 2012, 09:19:44 AM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 12 June, 2012, 07:41:33 PM
Stupid Dredd article: http://social.entertainment.msn.com/movies/blogs/the-hitlist-blogpost.aspx?post=8ee992ae-b8b3-4012-9b61-7b64acd6ddef

My response to said stupid Dredd article:

Thing is, this isn't a remake. Not even 'quasi-'. The author seems to be under the impression that the 1995 movie starring Sylvester Stallone is the original incarnation of this character. If that were the case, and Stallone's 1995 train wreck were the only source material 'Dredd' had to draw upon, I would be inclined to agree that the chances of this movie being any good were slim.

In reality, however, 'Dredd' has 35 years of excellent comic book material to draw upon for inspiration, running into tens of thousands of pages. Material which, incidentally, the 1995 Stallone incarnation chose by and large to ignore, or outright contradict.

To predict that this movie will 'probably be horrible' based on Stallone's version is therefore just as ridiculous as it would have been, back in 1989, to base one's expectations of Tim Burton's 'Batman' on the 1966 version starring Adam West.

An excellent, well written response, Mark. I've stuck my oar in as well, as has our own Mr Burdis, I see...

The more the merrier. People could we swayed by sloppy journalism like this. Maybe enough comments pointing out the journalists lack of research will help sway them back.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 June, 2012, 03:08:11 PM
Something I've been idly wondering - why would JoBlo be given the exclusive images and poster?

I'm vaguely aware of the site, but is it especially widely-read? It doesn't seem to be a particularly big operation. What do the filmmakers get out of the exclusivity? Why not just send it out to everyone at the same time?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 13 June, 2012, 03:12:47 PM
Quote from: radiator on 13 June, 2012, 03:08:11 PM
Something I've been idly wondering - why would JoBlo be given the exclusive images and poster?

I'm vaguely aware of the site, but is it especially widely-read? It doesn't seem to be a particularly big operation. What do the filmmakers get out of the exclusivity? Why not just send it out to everyone at the same time?

Yes, it's a big movie rumour and information site. And you sort an exclusive with a single place so that a) you can guarantee positive coverage of the exclusive from that site and b) all the reposting (usually) links back to the source, increasing their readership and boosting the chances of positive coverage from them in the future. It's a pretty standard marketing thing. If you send it out to everyone at the same time you pretty much lose all control over it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 June, 2012, 03:15:45 PM
Fair enough, cheers.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 June, 2012, 03:24:18 PM
The awful thing about the internet giving access to everyone, is that everyone can now be heard.

People annoy me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 13 June, 2012, 03:44:49 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 June, 2012, 03:24:18 PM
The awful thing about the internet giving access to everyone, is that everyone can now be heard.

People annoy me.

Welcome to my job.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 June, 2012, 03:47:22 PM
And hobby?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 13 June, 2012, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 June, 2012, 03:47:22 PM
And hobby?

Apart from the hitting people with sticks. Which helps a lot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 June, 2012, 03:57:26 PM
Heh. I bet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 June, 2012, 04:27:17 PM


Apart from the hitting people with sticks. Which helps a lot.
[/quote]

'Day-sticks'?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 13 June, 2012, 04:31:47 PM
During the day, sometimes at night. They're very adaptable.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 13 June, 2012, 04:40:38 PM
Quote
Apart from the hitting people with sticks. Which helps a lot.

You doing Morris dancing as well now? 8-?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 13 June, 2012, 04:43:24 PM
Quote from: W. R. Logan on 13 June, 2012, 04:40:38 PM
You doing Morris dancing as well now? 8-?

We *have* been described as the military wing of the Morris Dancers. Though I once saw a drunken brawl at a Morris Dancing event - that escalated pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 13 June, 2012, 05:22:16 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 13 June, 2012, 04:43:24 PM
Quote from: W. R. Logan on 13 June, 2012, 04:40:38 PM
You doing Morris dancing as well now? 8-?

We *have* been described as the military wing of the Morris Dancers. Though I once saw a drunken brawl at a Morris Dancing event - that escalated pretty quickly.

That's understandable. The built up and barely supressed tension and rage of a bunch of men who will never get a girlfriend needs a release occasionally.

Bit like this forum.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 13 June, 2012, 05:32:14 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 13 June, 2012, 05:22:16 PM
a bunch of men who will never get a girlfriend needs a release occasionally.

Ha! Couldn't be more wrong - the Sealed Knot is one giant knocking shop/drinking club...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 13 June, 2012, 05:46:20 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 13 June, 2012, 05:32:14 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 13 June, 2012, 05:22:16 PM
a bunch of men who will never get a girlfriend needs a release occasionally.

Ha! Couldn't be more wrong - the Sealed Knot is one giant knocking shop/drinking club...

I'm in.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 13 June, 2012, 06:03:08 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 12 June, 2012, 11:58:59 AM
Not the real thing, sadly, but just found this on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pCW8Dm3Qcs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pCW8Dm3Qcs)

That's pretty good. Thanks for taking time out to share it with us.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 June, 2012, 07:26:29 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 13 June, 2012, 04:31:47 PM
During the day, sometimes at night. They're very adaptable.
A 24/7 stick...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 June, 2012, 08:28:15 PM
 :o Does anyone know if this is gen?,,,,I alway saw Robocop as a rip off of Dredd...even down to the line about coming to collect the garbage (as in 'PUNKS RULE')...but this is flipping outrageous if true...any thoughts?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/97531199@N00/4524587533/

A digression I know but...since both films are due out soon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 June, 2012, 08:38:09 PM
Yes, it was on a making of 'Flesh and Steel' on a DVD of the original Robocop....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 June, 2012, 08:42:27 PM
Unbelievable...that just pisses me off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 13 June, 2012, 08:43:56 PM
I think it was an actual nod to Dredd as a character as they wanted to do a Dredd film ( I may be wrong though)





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 13 June, 2012, 08:45:41 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 13 June, 2012, 08:42:27 PM
Unbelievable...that just pisses me off.

It's not as if they used it!

Personally I think Robocop is different enough to stand separately but... I'm just repeating arguments stated elsewhere.

Anyhow. Glad there's a site up and running now. Hope we see something new soon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 13 June, 2012, 08:50:30 PM
As I've said before (I think?) DREDD is sure to be the best Judge Dredd film since Robocop.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 June, 2012, 08:54:07 PM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 13 June, 2012, 08:50:30 PM
As I've said before (I think?) DREDD is sure to be the best Judge Dredd film since Robocop.
:)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 June, 2012, 08:59:15 PM


It's not as if they used it!

Anyhow. Glad there's a site up and running now. Hope we see something new soon.
[/quote]

True...but in a way they obviously did use it. I really, really hate that. I don't even think Wagner and Ezquerra were getting royalties at the time - Imagine if they did use it like the sculpt shows they considered?...pass me the stub-gun
.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 13 June, 2012, 09:00:28 PM
New bike pic on Dredd Facebook page...check it out.  Some will like it and some will
... :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 13 June, 2012, 09:07:50 PM
This pic ..... Is it genuine?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 13 June, 2012, 09:08:01 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 13 June, 2012, 09:00:28 PM
New bike pic on Dredd Facebook page...check it out.  Some will like it and some will
... :'(

You got a link? I can't see it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 June, 2012, 09:08:06 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 13 June, 2012, 08:43:56 PM
I think it was an actual nod to Dredd as a character as they wanted to do a Dredd film ( I may be wrong though)

V

I see, didn't know that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 13 June, 2012, 09:11:08 PM
Two posts back lads for the pic attachment.  Sorry don't know how to link via my mobile.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 June, 2012, 09:12:55 PM
I'm pretty sure that's the bike that was sighted as THE bike some months ago...even the same shot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 13 June, 2012, 09:15:46 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 13 June, 2012, 09:11:08 PM
Two posts back lads for the pic attachment.  Sorry don't know how to link via my mobile.

Ah sorry - that wasn't showing up for me a moment ago!
Looks like a cool bike to me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 13 June, 2012, 09:17:50 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 13 June, 2012, 09:08:01 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 13 June, 2012, 09:00:28 PM
New bike pic on Dredd Facebook page...check it out.  Some will like it and some will
... :'(

You got a link? I can't see it.

That's because it's not on the official page (http://www.facebook.com/dreddthemovie). It's on a fan page  (http://www.facebook.com/judgedreddthemovie) everybody keeps mistaking for the official one, (though they've at least now changed the cover photo to make it more obvious).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 13 June, 2012, 09:18:43 PM
It is nice .... In keeping with the tone of the movie.  Colour up in Photoshop or gimp in justice dept. colours perhaps?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 13 June, 2012, 09:18:56 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 13 June, 2012, 09:08:06 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 13 June, 2012, 08:43:56 PM
I think it was an actual nod to Dredd as a character as they wanted to do a Dredd film ( I may be wrong though)

V

I see, didn't know that.

Yeah I think it was originally supposed to be a Dredd movie but something went wrong with them securing the rights at the time if I remember rightly. Its Pretty much Judge Dredd in all but name anyway.

Quote from: dracula1 on 13 June, 2012, 09:00:28 PM
New bike pic on Dredd Facebook page...check it out.  Some will like it and some will
... :'(



This reference for the bike turned up over a year ago. I think it was said that this bike was remodeled and used as the Lawmasters in the movie.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 13 June, 2012, 09:22:17 PM
That's not the Dredd bike..we were doing comparisons on here months ago and that picture popped up
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 13 June, 2012, 09:31:04 PM
That bike is a Victory Vision, a concept from 2005 with no relation to the film.
http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2005/12/12/victory-vision-800cc-parallel-twin-automatic-concept/

The film bike was identified on biker forums as a modified Suzuki GSX-R... with fatter wheels, btw.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 13 June, 2012, 09:33:03 PM
From Twitter

ShockTillYouDropNews ‏@STYDNews
Saw about 30 seconds of Dredd. Looked f'in rad. Stylish and gritty.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 June, 2012, 09:33:31 PM
From what I recall, and it was a long while ago, it's not that bike but that was used as a reference.

The actual bike was something else according to some bike forum... but the handlebars were shifted back and cowling added at the front.

I think they settled on a Honda GSXR

http://www.bikersoracle.com/vfr/forum/showthread.php?t=111918 (http://www.bikersoracle.com/vfr/forum/showthread.php?t=111918)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 June, 2012, 09:35:15 PM
Sorry, Suzuki as CN posted...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 13 June, 2012, 09:40:03 PM
Lets not mire this thread.
Trawl through this bastard.
http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,31676.0.html




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 13 June, 2012, 09:51:36 PM
Old hat info on the Dredd fan page then.  It's info we have been privey to for a long time on our forum but the general movie goer now accessing Facebook Dredd pages won't necessarily know.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 June, 2012, 09:55:16 PM
Final word on the matter belongs to MickVK, ages ago.



Quote from: Michaelvk on 07 February, 2011, 05:37:48 AM
While I had very little to do with the design of the bike, I challenge any one to design a bike/prop/costume that:
A: fits the budget
B: fits the brief
C: is practical AND reliable (do you want a million dollar a day if not more shooting crew waiting for you? I don't..)
D: is actually buildable.

It's all good and well wondering why can't they just cgi something, but for a 2k print, 3d or not, it's hellishly expensive. Like it's looks or not, the guys that built the Batpod as well as the Lawmaster and made them both practical working vehicles are deserving a lot of credit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 13 June, 2012, 10:07:08 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 13 June, 2012, 09:33:03 PM
From Twitter

ShockTillYouDropNews ‏@STYDNews
Saw about 30 seconds of Dredd. Looked f'in rad. Stylish and gritty.

Interesting. Maybe he saw a little preview of the trailer?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 13 June, 2012, 10:12:11 PM
30 seconds might be a teaser...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 13 June, 2012, 10:14:22 PM
I did ask him where he saw the footage-no reply as yet..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 June, 2012, 10:14:32 PM
or maybe it's just 30 seconds.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 13 June, 2012, 10:16:37 PM
I can't remember the last time I saw a 30 second teaser trailer.
30 seconds is usually a tv spot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 13 June, 2012, 10:18:28 PM
Total recall ran a 30 second teaser.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 13 June, 2012, 10:19:06 PM
The Arnold one?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 13 June, 2012, 10:20:53 PM
The new one.

http://www.hitfix.com/articles/watch-explosive-30-second-teaser-for-the-forthcoming-total-recall-trailer
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 13 June, 2012, 10:21:48 PM
Oh yeah. But that's what I meant in my original post. A "preview" of a Trailer that's COMING SOON! is Hollywood's hot new marketing strategy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 13 June, 2012, 10:26:07 PM
Yep, the kind of thing you drop on the net to get everyone stoked... for a trailer lol. Anyway, as Joe's post suggests, its all just speculation, fun aint it? :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 June, 2012, 10:29:51 PM
They better not do that trailer for trailer bullshit!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 13 June, 2012, 11:18:06 PM
As long as it's footage. I don't care how long it is as long as we get to see it soon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 13 June, 2012, 11:23:50 PM
It's probably just that leaked effects stuff from a few months ago.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 13 June, 2012, 11:34:45 PM
Quote from: M.I.K. on 13 June, 2012, 11:23:50 PM
It's probably just that leaked effects stuff from a few months ago.


Shouldn't think so.I mean,everyone's already seen that,surely?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 June, 2012, 11:48:38 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 13 June, 2012, 01:32:29 PM
@PreacherCain: Hm.... thank you for the warning and very good explanation, and not to be much disappointed if there is no Karl on sdcc2012  :(



You can possibly relax:


http://collider.com/comic-con-2012-iron-man-3-the-hobbit-hall-h/172711/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 13 June, 2012, 11:57:11 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 13 June, 2012, 11:34:45 PM
Quote from: M.I.K. on 13 June, 2012, 11:23:50 PM
It's probably just that leaked effects stuff from a few months ago.


Shouldn't think so.I mean,everyone's already seen that,surely?

He could be talking about the  previz stuff.  But I don't know how that could be mistaken as actual footage.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 14 June, 2012, 03:09:00 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 13 June, 2012, 09:31:04 PM
The film bike was identified on biker forums as a modified Suzuki GSX-R... with fatter wheels, btw.

So the wheels on the Dredd Lawmasters are suitably fat then, cool...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 14 June, 2012, 08:16:04 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 June, 2012, 10:29:51 PM
They better not do that trailer for trailer bullshit!

I'll take whatever I can get at this point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 14 June, 2012, 08:38:21 AM
Blindly, this thread is eating its own tail!   :lol:

But yeah, even a 30 second trailer would do me right now!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 14 June, 2012, 08:44:46 AM

[/quote]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8EMbGTSWMI

[/quote]

It's got so bad...I have this on repeat. (besides it's helping me build the courage to go out and cut the grass)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 14 June, 2012, 09:21:17 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 14 June, 2012, 08:44:46 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8EMbGTSWMI

[/quote]

It's got so bad...I have this on repeat. (besides it's helping me build the courage to go out and cut the grass)
[/quote]

How could anyone dislike that?!  :D

On a sidenote, does the MC-1 image without the judges used in the clip exist in hi-rez somewhere?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 June, 2012, 09:25:03 AM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 14 June, 2012, 09:21:17 AM
On a sidenote, does the MC-1 image without the judges used in the clip exist in hi-rez somewhere?


It was photoshopped.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 14 June, 2012, 09:33:05 AM
you can see the pixels
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 14 June, 2012, 09:50:55 AM
Ok thanks, was too distracted by that, that thing to notice any evidence of photoshop work.  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 14 June, 2012, 12:27:27 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 13 June, 2012, 09:07:50 PM
This pic ..... Is it genuine?

Yes.. It's a (I believe) Canadian custom bike manufacturer's product that the Lawmaster is loosely modelled after.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 14 June, 2012, 01:44:17 PM
Thanks Michael.    :D it's good enough for this life long fan.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: LARF on 14 June, 2012, 02:27:00 PM
Interesting. When you click on the link the URL has been taken down...

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dredd+trailer+trailer&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&tbo=1&rls=en&prmd=ivns&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:d&sa=X&ei=6uTZT8GfJIOe0QWP7ISZBA&ved=0CBAQpwUoAg (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dredd+trailer+trailer&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&tbo=1&rls=en&prmd=ivns&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:d&sa=X&ei=6uTZT8GfJIOe0QWP7ISZBA&ved=0CBAQpwUoAg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 14 June, 2012, 02:56:29 PM
You can link (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/AUSSYACE/news/?a=61696) to the old page via the Google Cache. It's a fake.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 14 June, 2012, 02:58:56 PM
posted by AUSSIEFACE (basic user) probably a rickroll type affair :( People are toying with our emotions! lol
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 June, 2012, 03:17:35 PM
That videos been floatin' around 'bout a year.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 June, 2012, 03:33:26 PM
You can rate the Dredd poster on this film-advertising site:


http://thefilminformant.com/2012/06/dredd-poster-1/

Everyone should go over and give it a 10,  it's far too low at the moment.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 14 June, 2012, 03:58:04 PM
"Dreed-full"

Indeed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 14 June, 2012, 07:37:40 PM
No-one has posted anything in this thread for four hours, so...

I like the van!
I like the costume!
I like what Wagner said!
I like the cityscape!
I like what little I know of the plot!
I like the poster!
I like how everyone is crapping themselves with tense excitement while we wait for something, ANYTHING, to happen!

:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 14 June, 2012, 08:11:32 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 14 June, 2012, 09:25:03 AM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 14 June, 2012, 09:21:17 AM
On a sidenote, does the MC-1 image without the judges used in the clip exist in hi-rez somewhere?
It was photoshopped.

And it took sooooooooo bloody long that I couldn't be arsed putting in the effort to make the wheels go round on the lawnmower.

I never want to see another "fence panel in partial shadow" in my life ever again.  Ever.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 June, 2012, 08:13:19 PM
Your talents are wasted.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 15 June, 2012, 12:44:45 AM
there's a gallery button turned up on the movie website:

http://www.dreddthemovie.com/#/gallery

Seems broken atm, but will apply 'brute force clicking' until something happens... here goes!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 15 June, 2012, 12:46:45 AM
Just the main two promo pictures. Apologies, got a little excited there :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stella Dave on 15 June, 2012, 02:08:07 AM
There's a link been taken down but still says Dredd trailer finally on Google, anyone catch it??
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/AUSSYACE/news/?a=61696
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jay jay on 15 June, 2012, 02:57:38 AM
it wasn't real. some guy thought it'd be funny to post the stallone trailer. not funny
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 15 June, 2012, 03:18:38 AM
Quote from: jay jay on 15 June, 2012, 02:57:38 AM
some guy thought it'd be funny to post the stallone trailer. not funny

That's what I thought about the film...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 15 June, 2012, 03:28:26 AM
....not funny. *trying to tame that flailing chestburster heart beating inside the fanchest* not.funny. But good to know I still inherit this huge happy kid looking forward to that movie. *going to work, doesn`t need more coffee now*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 15 June, 2012, 03:33:17 AM
ps1: sorry my english is still sleeping.
ps2: still "inhere" that happy kid even I did read the script and looking forward to that movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 15 June, 2012, 08:03:00 AM
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/179983_443240125693846_1640959106_n.jpg)

(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/536081_443240202360505_1469232673_n.jpg)

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533350_443240255693833_1208749543_n.jpg)

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.443238722360653.105988.167521819932346&type=3
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 15 June, 2012, 08:04:05 AM
WOW!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 June, 2012, 08:05:05 AM
EAGLE  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 15 June, 2012, 08:07:24 AM
Holy sh1t the suit looks the bollocks in those pics
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 15 June, 2012, 08:11:39 AM
It's a good thing I can type 'cos I think I've just lost the power of speech...ANDERSON!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 15 June, 2012, 08:15:34 AM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 15 June, 2012, 08:07:24 AM
Holy sh1t the suit looks the bollocks in those pics

I sometimes forget that 'Bollocks' means 'good' over in the UK.

Pics looks great! I bet they'll look even better with a little post-production.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 15 June, 2012, 08:17:23 AM
Extras are looking a little... contemporary. But I think its been pretty clear that's what the movie makers are going for this go around. Not sure how to really feel about that, gotta see a trailer and the city in motion.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: LARF on 15 June, 2012, 08:24:42 AM
Hmm, Dredd has a zipper on his troos and Anderson doesn't - does this mean she has a flap or something?

Great pics!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: LARF on 15 June, 2012, 08:25:26 AM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 15 June, 2012, 08:17:23 AM
Extras are looking a little... contemporary. But I think its been pretty clear that's what the movie makers are going for this go around. Not sure how to really feel about that, gotta see a trailer and the city in motion.

Don't think they are extras, probably film crew etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 June, 2012, 08:28:34 AM
Quote from: LARF on 15 June, 2012, 08:24:42 AM
Hmm, Dredd has a zipper on his troos and Anderson doesn't - does this mean she has a flap or something?

Great pics!!!

Stretchy?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 15 June, 2012, 08:35:27 AM
Nice one...yep...CBR were claiming the trailer had hit, page won't open...no idea what that's about...maybe something happening today.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 15 June, 2012, 08:37:28 AM
Sexy time     Urban IS Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 15 June, 2012, 08:47:44 AM
Nice touch, the bakery behind him in that pic has a sign for bread in several languages...including Czech!...MC1 is a melting pot!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 15 June, 2012, 08:49:07 AM
...and one sign has 'YOU LOOT, WE SHOOT' ...no nonsense.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 15 June, 2012, 08:49:33 AM
Liking the subtle stuff- the 'You Loot, We Shoot' sign in the window of the last shot.

Lovely use of folds and panel detail in the leathers etc.

Great detail on the back plating- and the first time we get to see the back detail on the helmet too.
:)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 15 June, 2012, 08:53:42 AM
However the movie itself pans out, those uniforms are magnificent. 

And the hellish dystopia angle is driven home with the revelation that The Gap survives into the 22nd Century.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 15 June, 2012, 08:58:38 AM
That's Wood Harris [spoiler]playing Kay or whatever his name is now[/spoiler]... and if whoever does the cast list on IMDB is watching then Judge Alvarez is played by Edwin Perry and not by Deobia Oparei who is playing the paramedic "T.J.")

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533350_443240255693833_1208749543_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 15 June, 2012, 09:24:22 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 15 June, 2012, 08:53:42 AM
And the hellish dystopia angle is driven home with the revelation that The Gap survives into the 22nd Century.
:)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 15 June, 2012, 09:30:49 AM
The pics are great. That said, assuming those chaps in the background are Extras, I gotta say that I think the outfits we had for Minty were much better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mygrimmbrother on 15 June, 2012, 09:36:56 AM
Avon Barksdale busted by Dredd and Anderson!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 09:38:09 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 15 June, 2012, 08:35:27 AM
Nice one...yep...CBR were claiming the trailer had hit, page won't open...no idea what that's about...maybe something happening today.


It wasn't the trailer, it was a fake.



In the stills the uniforms look great even under the harsh 'daytime temperature' studio lights. The Batman/superhero suits would look shite in those conditions, but not Dredd. As usual, the naysayers were completely wrong.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 15 June, 2012, 09:41:29 AM
Great pics.  Really kick over the assumption that the uniform only looks good when it's properly posed and lit.  Good stuff. :thumbsup:

Re: contemporary dress on the extras, the earlier picture with the green gas had a guy rather conspicuously wearing trainers.  I suspect it's something that sticks out a lot more when you're looking at stills than it will in the actual film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 15 June, 2012, 09:42:52 AM
Quote from: LARF on 15 June, 2012, 08:24:42 AM
Hmm, Dredd has a zipper on his troos and Anderson doesn't - does this mean she has a flap or something?

Also, interestingly, Anderson's kneepads have 3 sections (Bolland style) whereas Dredd's have at least four.

I think these pictures prove that the uniform and helmet work. They just seem to look natural in it, rather than being in a costume. Great stuff!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 15 June, 2012, 09:49:06 AM
Quote from: Banners on 15 June, 2012, 09:30:49 AM
I gotta say that I think the outfits we had for Minty were much better.

Mr Banners, you can't expect Hollywood to compete with Minty!...although they may try. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 15 June, 2012, 09:49:50 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 09:38:09 AM
It wasn't the trailer, it was a fake.
[/quote]

Aha...hence the vanishing page.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: pauljholden on 15 June, 2012, 09:49:55 AM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 15 June, 2012, 08:15:34 AM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 15 June, 2012, 08:07:24 AM
Holy sh1t the suit looks the bollocks in those pics

I sometimes forget that 'Bollocks' means 'good' over in the UK.

Pics looks great! I bet they'll look even better with a little post-production.

"bollocks" is bad, "the bollocks" is good. It's subtle, but distinct...

-pj
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 15 June, 2012, 09:53:05 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 09:38:09 AM
In the stills the uniforms look great even under the harsh 'daytime temperature' studio lights. The Batman/superhero suits would look shite in those conditions, but not Dredd. As usual, the naysayers were completely wrong.
[/quote]

They look great...and check out his stance - perfect, feel I've seen that Judge before!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 June, 2012, 10:00:40 AM
Quote from: pauljholden on 15 June, 2012, 09:49:55 AM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 15 June, 2012, 08:15:34 AM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 15 June, 2012, 08:07:24 AM
Holy sh1t the suit looks the bollocks in those pics

I sometimes forget that 'Bollocks' means 'good' over in the UK.

Pics looks great! I bet they'll look even better with a little post-production.

"bollocks" is bad, "the bollocks" is good. It's subtle, but distinct...

-pj

Yes *The* Bollocks is shortened from the dog's bollocks.

Apparently*, Meccano sets used to come in two sizes - Box Standard and Box Deluxe - and there's a theory that this is the origin of the terms 'Bog Standard' and 'Dog's Bollocks'.

*It was on QI, and is probably bollocks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 15 June, 2012, 10:03:09 AM
Those pics are great and the uniforms look better n better especially -um-Anderson. :-[  Urban looks the bizness though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 June, 2012, 10:03:52 AM
Perfect!

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533350_443240255693833_1208749543_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 15 June, 2012, 10:09:27 AM
I like that 'Chleb' (Czech = Bread) is in there....back to that comment about A Clockwork Orange...which as you'll recall, was a real moloko horrorshow, my brothers. >:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 15 June, 2012, 10:14:32 AM
On that Typo...These people are awesome....

Hi Stewart,

Thanks very much for your email. I've passed this straight to Lionsgate who can hopefully make the amend asap! Hope you enjoy the film.

Best wishes,


Alex Kendall
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 15 June, 2012, 10:29:25 AM
 :-[ Shouldn't have posted that, should I? and I can't delete it, bloody nora...feeling like a twat, I'm going to crawl away under my desk now....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 June, 2012, 10:41:29 AM
Quote from: Banners on 15 June, 2012, 09:30:49 AM
The pics are great. That said, assuming those chaps in the background are Extras, I gotta say that I think the outfits we had for Minty were much better.

It's all about context, if you've got the weirdness of the comic elsewhere it gives you a free rein.

I wouldn't expect the extras to be all kneepads and helmets and goths, but I think they could have pushed it a bit further rather than the extras looking no different to crew, just so that someone with that helmet sits better.

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 10:49:18 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 15 June, 2012, 10:41:29 AM
Quote from: Banners on 15 June, 2012, 09:30:49 AM
The pics are great. That said, assuming those chaps in the background are Extras, I gotta say that I think the outfits we had for Minty were much better.

It's all about context, if you've got the weirdness of the comic elsewhere it gives you a free rein.

I wouldn't expect the extras to be all kneepads and helmets and goths, but I think they could have pushed it a bit further rather than the extras looking no different to crew, just so that someone with that helmet sits better.

Just my 2 cents.

I think it's beyond obvious that we are looking at film crew
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 15 June, 2012, 10:56:37 AM
Quote from: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 10:49:18 AMI think it's beyond obvious that we are looking at film crew

And the guy Anderson has arrested? 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 June, 2012, 10:58:57 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 15 June, 2012, 10:56:37 AM
Quote from: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 10:49:18 AMI think it's beyond obvious that we are looking at film crew

And the guy Anderson has arrested?

He got arrested for wearing vintage clothes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 15 June, 2012, 10:59:27 AM
I like the way DNA have put THEIR stamp on Dredd, it makes a nice seperation from the movie Dredd and the comic Dredd.
Everyones a winner ..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 June, 2012, 11:00:20 AM
The photos certainly look the biz to me and as for the crew/extras debate I assume that since Mega City citz don't have a lot of money so they wear hand me downs or cheap jeans and sneakers which is pretty much what we see.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 11:00:26 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 15 June, 2012, 10:56:37 AM
Quote from: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 10:49:18 AMI think it's beyond obvious that we are looking at film crew

And the guy Anderson has arrested?

What about him?

Dressed pretty neutral if you ask me

I hate all this 'if you're from the future you have to look like a cyber-punk' shit

Do all people suddenly lose their taste?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 15 June, 2012, 11:04:54 AM
Quote from: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 11:00:26 AM
Dressed pretty neutral if you ask me

I hate all this 'if you're from the future you have to look like a cyber-punk' shit

Do all people suddenly lose their taste?

I'm not knocking the costuming, I'm just observing that the character in the film is dressed consistently with the folk in the background, thus challenging your assertion that they are 'beyond obvious[ly]' film crew .
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 June, 2012, 11:17:54 AM
QuoteI like the way DNA have put THEIR stamp on Dredd, it makes a nice seperation from the movie Dredd and the comic Dredd.
Everyones a winner ..

Indeed.

Pretty soon we'll have DNA's fresh vision of the character and Minty, which will be closer to the source material. We're being spoilt if anything.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 11:20:08 AM
They look like obvious extras to me rather than crew, not just cos of how they look but by the fact that they wouldn't be in those positions during a shoot because they'll likely end up in the angle of shot.

There's an extra on the far left of the 'Avon arrested' picture behind the camera that looks like a female shop-clerk in a red apron, sandals and beige cap.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 15 June, 2012, 11:20:54 AM
Quote from: Beeks
I hate all this 'if you're from the future you have to look like a cyber-punk' shit. Do all people suddenly lose their taste?

As others have said, it's all about context so it's not right to judge this on some unofficial, raw shots seen outside of whatever mise-en-scène the film is going for.

However, the world of MC1 is so rich, and the potential of sci-fi cinema so vast, that it would perhaps be nice to see a bit of imagination in the Cits' costumes. Also, and to reference Minty again, there was a load of litter lying around (complete with in-jokes), whereas I can't see any trash in that pic.

To conclude, Dredd and Anderson look ace. It's all hugely exciting! And I'm not complainin', I'm just sayin'...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 15 June, 2012, 11:31:22 AM
It does appear to be in line with the 'near future' we've seen since the beginning, which is fine by me: a consistent workable vision is the critical thing.  If anything the contemporary normalcy of the backdrop should serve to foreground the SF elements of Judges, Psis, Slo-Mo and Blocks.   

Personally I'd be more of a fan of the 'gigapolis of crazies' approach to MC-1 than the 'neo-noir future crime', but I don't think bellywheels, muties and Citizen Snork have been on the cards for quite a while now.  If that's the price of a good film, I'll happily pay it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 15 June, 2012, 11:33:45 AM
That's never Wood Harris!?!

Also,{SCRIPT SPOILER} [spoiler]some later shots in that set feature a skate ramp, I believe there are several scenes where one is mentioned. If that's from DREDD then thats a nice Punisher skull :)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 15 June, 2012, 11:36:26 AM
Appears that is Wood Harris after all:

http://www.hollywoodofficial.com/2010/11/10/exclusive-wood-harris-joins-the-cast-of-dredd/

When you're right, you're right, kudos.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 15 June, 2012, 11:31:22 AM
  Personally I'd be more of a fan of the 'gigapolis of crazies' approach to MC-1 than the 'neo-noir future crime', but I don't think bellywheels, muties and Citizen Snork have been on the cards for quite a while now.  If that's the price of a good film, I'll happily pay it.


Not to mention the extra cost of out-fitting such a milieu which probably would've meant the Judges would be of the cut-price variety wearing lycra rather than leather.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 15 June, 2012, 11:42:37 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 11:38:03 AMNot to mention the extra cost of out-fitting such a milieu which probably would've meant the Judges would be of the cut-price variety wearing lycra rather than leather.

Thank you for the mental image of Judge Dredd wearing bicycle shorts.

...Wait, I'm not sure "thank" was actually the word I meant there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 15 June, 2012, 11:54:09 AM
New pics look great and more importantly signal a shift to what could be a media deluge :)

The near future apparel vibe works for me, as been said not all will afford nor have the luxury of the latest tech clothing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 12:15:53 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 11:20:08 AM
They look like obvious extras to me rather than crew, not just cos of how they look but by the fact that they wouldn't be in those positions during a shoot because they'll likely end up in the angle of shot.

There's an extra on the far left of the 'Avon arrested' picture behind the camera that looks like a female shop-clerk in a red apron, sandals and beige cap.

Oh I see..so what was their brief?

Stand around and look bored?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 15 June, 2012, 12:18:47 PM
If those people were crew, they'd be doing something.

or pretending to do something.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 12:20:13 PM
If you look at the direction of the camera..the only people in shot are Dredd, Anderson and the perp
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 June, 2012, 12:20:53 PM
Because cameras never move around.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 June, 2012, 12:21:38 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 12:20:13 PM
If you look at the direction of the camera..the only people in shot are Dredd, Anderson and the perp

Well right, and it looks like they standby, and about to filming or line up?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: clavell on 15 June, 2012, 12:21:57 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 15 June, 2012, 08:37:28 AM
Urban IS Dredd.

Damn right !

It just keeps getting better  :D

- C
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 June, 2012, 12:25:44 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 15 June, 2012, 12:21:38 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 12:20:13 PM
If you look at the direction of the camera..the only people in shot are Dredd, Anderson and the perp

Well right, and it looks like they standby, and about to filming or line up?

Quite, it could be rehearsal, it could be prior to a take...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: johnnystress on 15 June, 2012, 12:27:32 PM
''This 3D animated version ''?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 12:27:42 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 12:20:13 PM
If you look at the direction of the camera..the only people in shot are Dredd, Anderson and the perp


It's a still shot and if you know anything about how wide (and short) angle lenses work, youll know how they can capture a lot more in terms of periphary than the human eye and there's a high probability that it's capturing the peeps directly behind Dredd & Anderson plus there's two cameras on the end of that arm since it's 3D.

As Steve implied cameras move and that one in the picture definitely does since it's on a mobile-jib/arm.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 12:29:39 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 15 June, 2012, 12:25:44 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 15 June, 2012, 12:21:38 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 12:20:13 PM
If you look at the direction of the camera..the only people in shot are Dredd, Anderson and the perp

Well right, and it looks like they standby, and about to filming or line up?

Quite, it could be rehearsal, it could be prior to a take...

Or not..as the case may be

I'm not saying they are crew..I'm not saying they are extras

What I am saying is it's likely that there are crew behind the shot

The lady with the pinafore is obviously cast..you cannot vouch for the rest unless you were part of the production team
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 15 June, 2012, 12:31:28 PM
Must say, that shoulder eagle looks even better than I had imagined - I love the bit of relief.  If the popular rumour that Wagner had some input there is true, I doff my frequently-doffed cap.  If it was already there in the original design, I'm even more impressed. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 12:31:51 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 12:29:39 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 15 June, 2012, 12:25:44 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 15 June, 2012, 12:21:38 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 12:20:13 PM
If you look at the direction of the camera..the only people in shot are Dredd, Anderson and the perp

Well right, and it looks like they standby, and about to filming or line up?

Quite, it could be rehearsal, it could be prior to a take...

Or not..as the case may be

I'm not saying they are crew..I'm not saying they are extras

What I am saying is it's likely that there are crew behind the shot

The lady with the pinafore is obviously cast..you cannot vouch for the rest unless you were part of the production team


It's likely a rehearsal since that is the time stills photographers are allowed to take their snaps. Not good to have people taking photos during takes and causing a distraction.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 15 June, 2012, 12:41:57 PM
The guy in orange is definitely an extra, look at the cut on the jacket, rough as hell, definitely a prop.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 June, 2012, 12:45:45 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 12:29:39 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 15 June, 2012, 12:25:44 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 15 June, 2012, 12:21:38 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 12:20:13 PM
If you look at the direction of the camera..the only people in shot are Dredd, Anderson and the perp

Well right, and it looks like they standby, and about to filming or line up?

Quite, it could be rehearsal, it could be prior to a take...

Or not..as the case may be

I'm not saying they are crew..I'm not saying they are extras

What I am saying is it's likely that there are crew behind the shot

The lady with the pinafore is obviously cast..you cannot vouch for the rest unless you were part of the production team

No, I don't know for certain, but I would say they are all extras apart from the three main actors and the camera op.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 June, 2012, 12:50:42 PM
I'd say they're extras - sorry, 'supporting artists'.

The film is clearly set in an unspecified 'near future' - obviously civvies arent going to be decked out in knee pads and McMahon visors.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 June, 2012, 01:02:20 PM
It's most likely a shot taken in the tedious moments between takes..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: brendan1 on 15 June, 2012, 01:09:40 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 15 June, 2012, 10:41:29 AM
Quote from: Banners on 15 June, 2012, 09:30:49 AM
The pics are great. That said, assuming those chaps in the background are Extras, I gotta say that I think the outfits we had for Minty were much better.

It's all about context, if you've got the weirdness of the comic elsewhere it gives you a free rein.

I wouldn't expect the extras to be all kneepads and helmets and goths, but I think they could have pushed it a bit further rather than the extras looking no different to crew, just so that someone with that helmet sits better.

Just my 2 cents.

Yeah, and what about that bloke operating that GIANT FUCKING CAMERA?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 15 June, 2012, 01:12:47 PM
More movement on Dredd at last. And as stated in the thread miles back ... What's wrong with using your work in progress stuff as promo material. It costs nowt to do this and Minty has shown it shows confidence in your product.  Fantastic pictures, more please!  :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 June, 2012, 01:18:43 PM
Quote from: brendan1 on 15 June, 2012, 01:09:40 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 15 June, 2012, 10:41:29 AM
Quote from: Banners on 15 June, 2012, 09:30:49 AM
The pics are great. That said, assuming those chaps in the background are Extras, I gotta say that I think the outfits we had for Minty were much better.

It's all about context, if you've got the weirdness of the comic elsewhere it gives you a free rein.

I wouldn't expect the extras to be all kneepads and helmets and goths, but I think they could have pushed it a bit further rather than the extras looking no different to crew, just so that someone with that helmet sits better.

Just my 2 cents.

Yeah, and what about that bloke operating that GIANT FUCKING CAMERA?

Yes, that camera could definitely have done with kneepads.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 June, 2012, 01:33:06 PM
Dredd and Anderson look fabbo, but I have to confess I'm a little underwhelmed by this Mega-City mufti; it makes even the toned-down practical version of Dredd's 'garb of Justice' seem kinda eccentric to me in comparison.

This opinion is informed by nothing more than few on-set pictures mind you.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 June, 2012, 01:39:04 PM
context, people..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 15 June, 2012, 01:48:11 PM
Those pics look ace!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 June, 2012, 01:50:44 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 15 June, 2012, 01:39:04 PM
context, people..
Well we can only talk about what we know, and we don't know very much.
Just reassure me that it's not gonna look like 'Soylent Green' and I'll be fine ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 June, 2012, 01:53:11 PM
Are you kidding? We watched that as a reference!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 June, 2012, 01:53:56 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 15 June, 2012, 02:00:07 PM
Deckard Cain

(http://i.imgur.com/yj3vt.jpg)

Doesn't look too sci-fi there, and Blade Runner is regarded as one of the best visualizations of near future America.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 June, 2012, 02:02:42 PM
Love the tie..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 15 June, 2012, 02:03:33 PM
as long as it looks as futuristic as Logan's Run I'm happy
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 15 June, 2012, 02:06:11 PM
Oh god the embarrasment, been playing too much Diablo.... :( sob
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 02:45:24 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 15 June, 2012, 01:50:44 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 15 June, 2012, 01:39:04 PM
context, people..
Well we can only talk about what we know, and we don't know very much.
Just reassure me that it's not gonna look like 'Soylent Green' and I'll be fine ;)


If it's a film as good as Soylent Green I'll be happy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 02:46:48 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 15 June, 2012, 01:33:06 PM
Dredd and Anderson look fabbo, but I have to confess I'm a little underwhelmed by this Mega-City mufti; it makes even the toned-down practical version of Dredd's 'garb of Justice' seem kinda eccentric to me in comparison.


Dredd and the Judges always stood out from the citizens, it's part of the point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 June, 2012, 03:10:26 PM
I'm quite fond of Soylent Green meself; just not crazy about the art departments work on it.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 02:46:48 PM
Dredd and the Judges always stood out from the citizens, it's part of the point.
But they did all seem to co-exist in the same, visually heightened, ubiquitous knee-pad, culture.
If everyone is in standard modern civvies 'cept the Judges... it's harder to see them 'belonging'.
As MichealVk indicated, context shall probably clear this up - but just from those pics; the Mega-city mufti seems disappointing to me.
Surely I'm not alone in this?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 June, 2012, 03:21:18 PM
I can guarantee you that if you're watching the movie, the scene's action and composition will make sure that the last thing you'll be looking at is the extras.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 June, 2012, 03:23:37 PM
No, I made a similar point.

As a guess the makers might argue that as with riot cops today, the average person in the street doesn't wear kneepads to match them.

I'd have to see it in context, but I totally get the argument that if you have someone in contemporary clothes, judges are going to look a little odd in comparison, particularly with a comic faithful helmet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 June, 2012, 03:24:37 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 15 June, 2012, 03:21:18 PM
I can guarantee you that if you're watching the movie, the scene's action and composition will make sure that the last thing you'll be looking at is the extras.
Good point,crowd scenes in the comics were always static, giving us time to pore over sumptious sartorial detail.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 June, 2012, 03:33:11 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 15 June, 2012, 03:23:37 PM
...you have someone in contemporary clothes, judges are going to look a little odd in comparison, particularly with a comic faithful helmet.
It is also the helmet that I found 'jarred' my eye a little, still...here's hoping that, in context, it shant be an issue.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 June, 2012, 03:57:18 PM
That's a great shot of the Karlmeister. I'd say the new gear completely works but it looks slightly less impressive on Anderson. Just one of those things I suppose.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 15 June, 2012, 04:16:07 PM
Hm, I don't know about those extras, if they indeed are extras. They really do look very, very normal and contemporary. Surely creating a certain style of fashion for MC-1 citizens wouldn't need a huge budget, just some imagination and ingenuity.

Karl and Olivia look awesome fortunately. There is a point in making judges stand out, just like Steve mentions in his post about modern riot cops. I just hope they don't look out of place in the finished film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mike Carroll on 15 June, 2012, 04:33:03 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 15 June, 2012, 02:00:07 PM
Deckard Cain

Doesn't look too sci-fi there, and Blade Runner is regarded as one of the best visualizations of near future America.

You mean Rick Deckard - Deckard Cain is a character in the Diablo games!

-- Mike
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 04:38:15 PM
Well if MickVK -who worked on the shoot- has more or less implied 'context' in terms of the fashion presented by the background extras in the picture, I think we can more or less take it as a given that this is the style of the film and trust that it works. I haven't seen a valid argument that says that it won't.

If RoboCop didn't look totally out of place in his plated futuristic cyborg armour amongst the Dolce & Gabbana suits and hoodies of near-future Detroit, I don't see why the baroque lookin' Judges in their not so futuristic uniforms should.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 15 June, 2012, 04:41:23 PM
Re the clothes....so what? Levis are still worn today and they have been around since 1853,hoodies were around in the 30's.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 June, 2012, 04:46:46 PM
Let me get it, sorry for my poor grammar, but loads of debates on this thread is moans about the bike? the lack of eagle? The helmet too big? The van in 2 secs UNTESTED footage? Lack of trailer? and now those crews or extras clothes? come on, DanboJohnJ is right, about Levis, what clothes you expect? As people riches in Mega-Cities to get future clothes or kept it realistic as it can, as with many photos and poster, it looks sooo awesome, and for me, I will see the film at cinema in September no matters what. Cant wait!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 15 June, 2012, 04:50:06 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 15 June, 2012, 03:23:37 PM
No, I made a similar point.

As a guess the makers might argue that as with riot cops today, the average person in the street doesn't wear kneepads to match them.

Stick any modern day police, particularly armed, Met style cops in a crowd of normal people and they'll stand out.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/02_1/armedpoliceDM0902_228x375.jpg).

(bet my HTML doesn't work).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 15 June, 2012, 04:52:50 PM
And as for niggles,I have them for every film if it's an adaptation I care about,Batman legs look silly,wargs are wolves not hyenas etc,but you have to let shit like that slide or it will just ruin an otherwise good film.....little things.

Dredds coming and I can't bloody wait.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 15 June, 2012, 04:58:25 PM
QuoteYou mean Rick Deckard - Deckard Cain is a character in the Diablo games!

I've already noticed, did you miss my follow up comment? I can only shed so many tears in shame :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mike Carroll on 15 June, 2012, 05:01:51 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 15 June, 2012, 04:58:25 PM
QuoteYou mean Rick Deckard - Deckard Cain is a character in the Diablo games!

I've already noticed, did you miss my follow up comment? I can only shed so many tears in shame :(

Oops - sorry, D.R. - didn't see the follow-up! (If it helps, the only reason I spotted it was that Deckard Cain is on my mind because I'm debating whether to buy Diablo III!)

- Mike
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 June, 2012, 05:07:34 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 04:38:15 PM
... take it as a given that this is the style of the film and trust that it works. I haven't seen a valid argument that says that it won't.
A valid argument? - I haven't seen an argument that says it wont full-stop. Nobody made one. It just so happens that the distinctive and stylised helmet design ( which I love btw ) seems a little out of place in photographs where Mega-Citizens are dressed in such a contemporary fashion that it's not exactly clear who is cast and who is crew.
That's a comment on the photos only.
MichealVk says it works, and that's good enough for me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 05:15:31 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 15 June, 2012, 05:07:34 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 04:38:15 PM
... take it as a given that this is the style of the film and trust that it works. I haven't seen a valid argument that says that it won't.
A valid argument? - I haven't seen an argument that says it wont full-stop. Nobody made one.



Yep, that's what I said.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 June, 2012, 05:18:08 PM
Sorry.'valid' threw me; thought it meant you might have seen a non-valid one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 05:19:02 PM
This thread is now invalid.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 June, 2012, 05:22:47 PM
Now that is perfect Dredd!

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/179983_443240125693846_1640959106_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 15 June, 2012, 05:23:21 PM
The citizens / perps are not normal enough!  And Anderson's helmet isn't as large as it should be.  Prior apologies to less tolerant boarders for these bland comments in advance.
;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 15 June, 2012, 05:24:30 PM
QuoteDeckard Cain is on my mind because I'm debating whether to buy Diablo III!

Don't, it's nearly as bad as WoW for soul sucking...

DREDD!

Like the costume
Loving MC-1
Think the bike will look mean as all hell in the movie

Loving everything I'm seeing, and anxiously awaiting a flipping trailer! lol

But don't mind a bit of debate on what we have to go on. Trying not to get my expectations up too high, but District 9 only cost $30 mil and looked great, and DREDD has an extra $15 mil to play with.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 15 June, 2012, 05:43:24 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 15 June, 2012, 05:22:47 PM
Now that is perfect Dredd!

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/179983_443240125693846_1640959106_n.jpg)

Karl's got very small hands, or is it just the McMahon effect?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 June, 2012, 05:56:21 PM
Maybe it's the lighting but one thing about the extras is that they do appear quite colourful. That in itself gives off a Meg vibe (for me at least).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 15 June, 2012, 06:01:11 PM
So now the helmet is too accurate...

JESUS CHRIST.

Depending on the artist, MC1 citizens clothing veers wildly between over the top futuristic and contemporary styles.

We already knew they were going for a more realistic Mega City One. This looks absolutely fine.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 June, 2012, 06:16:33 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 15 June, 2012, 06:01:11 PM
So now the helmet is too accurate...

JESUS CHRIST...
... This looks absolutely fine.
To you, to me these elements look a little odd together
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gQFWbU6-25g/T9ttfccRkkI/AAAAAAAAB-0/-UGDOvKOQ7Y/s1600/cosplay.jpg)
in this couple of photographs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 June, 2012, 06:20:18 PM
Just you darnmarr
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 June, 2012, 06:22:24 PM
No dissent will be tolerated.

Those dissenters will be given a chill pill.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 June, 2012, 06:27:07 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 15 June, 2012, 06:20:18 PM
Just you darnmarr
I guess so then.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 15 June, 2012, 06:31:46 PM
When I heard the film would be about Dredd taking a rookie for evaluation, i didn't realise it would be this basic!

(http://i.imgur.com/iI9zJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 15 June, 2012, 06:40:57 PM
Good one  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 June, 2012, 06:48:45 PM
 :DIn the same vein then:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lCq5bz-RXdg/T9t0u_f-jMI/AAAAAAAAB_E/Mrf-hzi8ZOY/s1600/cosplay.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 15 June, 2012, 07:08:22 PM
Remember how the vans looked daft in the spy pics, but turned out to fit quite well in the recent hi-res photo? That, but with fewer wheels.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 15 June, 2012, 07:22:38 PM
Needs more cowbell
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stella Dave on 15 June, 2012, 07:38:47 PM
Footage shots nearly always look a bit disappointing. Look at the leaked Batman and Bane footage on the steps we seen, it looked well naff but in the trailer it looks great. I think everything will look a lot different in the film, way darker and grittier. Bring it on!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 15 June, 2012, 07:42:49 PM
Quote from: Noisybast on 15 June, 2012, 07:08:22 PM
Remember how the vans looked daft in the spy pics, but turned out to fit quite well in the recent hi-res photo? That, but with fewer wheels.

Well said.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 07:45:16 PM
I think someone mentioned way way back on this thread

But I reckon it's going to have a distinctly 'Children Of Men' feel to it

Which can't be a bad thing
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 June, 2012, 07:46:53 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 15 June, 2012, 07:45:16 PM
I think someone mentioned way way back on this thread

But I reckon it's going to have a distinctly 'Children Of Men' feel to it

Which can't be a bad thing

That what I feelings too... :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 June, 2012, 07:51:45 PM
Yeah, there's a lot of conparisons to Chhildren of Men and District 9.

Those are basically my two favourite films of the last few years, and if Dredd is half as good as either i'll be thrilled.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 June, 2012, 07:53:56 PM
Quote from: Noisybast on 15 June, 2012, 07:08:22 PM
Remember how the vans looked daft in the spy pics, but turned out to fit quite well in the recent hi-res photo? That, but with fewer wheels.
So, (as with the van spy-pics) you agree that the cits look less than impressive in these snaps; and hope for better from the actual film then... that's exactly the point I've been trying to articulate.

A 'Children of Men' vibe sounds very cool,and I'm sure it'll all fit together in a satisfying and believable way, but citizens indistinguishable from crew was a bit of a shock.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 15 June, 2012, 08:25:20 PM
The guys to the left in red and orange could work. It's the Banana Republic guy in shorts that looks like part of the crew. I hope.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 15 June, 2012, 08:32:18 PM
@Diminished Responsibility and darnmarr: *crying tears* *smirk* that was good. (pictures with text)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 09:02:10 PM
These must be the rather spiffy little 3D surveillance camera rigs Dod Mantle had constructed for the shoot to get closer to the actors and the action..


(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4097/rig1o.jpg)



Is that a battery/server on your back or a proton accelerator?

(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/5412/rig2o.jpg)




Look at how close they're getting. You won't see something like this on a Nolan film-set:

(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/551/rig3.jpg)



Other 3D films have generally gone the route of a more classical style of shooting everything in a very controlled manner but this should look different. No one's done this kind of stuff before in 3D.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 15 June, 2012, 09:10:12 PM
Hand-Cam 3D?  That's either going to amazing, or the most nausea inducing thing ever.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 15 June, 2012, 09:11:40 PM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 15 June, 2012, 09:10:12 PM
Hand-Cam 3D?  That's either going to amazing, or the most nausea inducing thing ever.
Can't it be both?  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 June, 2012, 09:13:50 PM
That's the SI2K rig, from what I remember.. All the stuff that wasn't necessary on the camera was put on the backpack, which gave it the ghostbuster nickname.. The theme tune apparently got played over the radios every now and again..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 15 June, 2012, 09:29:31 PM
God, this film is going to "look" so good. The angles, the colors, the sound, Karl, everyone, the costumes, the details, the background, the bgm. A future ear- and eyegasm. *I know the story will rock* *slowly pacing my survival backpack for disappearing at 7th sep until 15.nov*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 15 June, 2012, 09:29:53 PM
I was wondering about the ammo clips on the belt, there's one obviously fatter than the others. i take it the narrow magazines load into the grip and are standard/rapid fire rounds and the fat one loads into the front for HE/IR. Would that be correct? (apologies if this has been raised elsewhere, didn't see it).

(http://i.imgur.com/NNMCN.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 09:36:43 PM
They all look the same size to me, one of the pouches has two rivets that make it look bigger but not the clip.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 15 June, 2012, 09:41:22 PM
 Karl Urban & Olivia Thirlby really do look the part. As for the 'extras', given what we've seen of the city and vehicles, did people expect the cits to look like something from the Jetsons? ;)

Roll on September.

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 09:57:10 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 15 June, 2012, 09:13:50 PM
That's the SI2K rig, from what I remember.. All the stuff that wasn't necessary on the camera was put on the backpack, which gave it the ghostbuster nickname.. The theme tune apparently got played over the radios every now and again..


Paradise FX advised Dod Mantle not to shoot a film on them, he said phuck 'em. He explains in this interview the difference between his 3D work on Dredd and Cameron on Avatar:


http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/mgoldman/video/podcast_the_adventures_of_anthony_dod_mantle_part_2/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Waltev on 15 June, 2012, 10:22:07 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 15 June, 2012, 09:29:53 PM
I was wondering about the ammo clips on the belt, there's one obviously fatter than the others. i take it the narrow magazines load into the grip and are standard/rapid fire rounds and the fat one loads into the front for HE/IR. Would that be correct? (apologies if this has been raised elsewhere, didn't see it).

(http://i.imgur.com/NNMCN.jpg)

Comparing to the "real" world those seem to be your basic 17-round Glock clips.
The viewing holes in the mags to assess amount of ammo left pretty much give away the game... taking into account the basic Glock17 look of the Lawgiver's grip. Of course we can't have that 'cause the MarkII Lawgiver mag is supposed to hold a bit more Standard Execution ammo than 17 puny 9mm rounds... right? :)

Just the viewing angle, I suppose.

I reckon mr. MichaelVK, if anyone, could enlighten us as to the fact whether the "front chamber" dispensing the variable ammo gets reloaded (and if so, how cool does that look) during the movie :)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 15 June, 2012, 10:26:22 PM
QuoteThey all look the same size to me, one of the pouches has two rivets that make it look bigger but not the clip.

Yeah, looking at the clip itself, you're right, its the same size as the others. The pouch looks wider though, not just from the inclusion of the rivets, but the width of the leather, curious. Its as if it was designed to fit something else.

I think this slow drip of info is driving me mad, who's got the chill pills?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 10:30:20 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 15 June, 2012, 10:26:22 PM
The pouch looks wider though, not just from the inclusion of the rivets, but the width of the leather, curious.


Na, cover up the rivets and it looks the same as the others.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 15 June, 2012, 10:38:32 PM
Quote from: SKD on 15 June, 2012, 09:41:22 PM
Karl Urban & Olivia Thirlby really do look the part. As for the 'extras', given what we've seen of the city and vehicles, did people expect the cits to look like something from the Jetsons? ;)

Roll on September.

Stew.

Also self drying jackets and Nike self tying trainers might work when used for humorous effect in Back To The Future, but not so in a gritty action film like Dredd.
And nothing dates a film more than a failed attempt at projected fashion design.
The retro futurisic look works fine for me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 15 June, 2012, 10:39:43 PM
QuoteNa, cover up the rivets and it looks the same as the others.

Nah, the second one is definitely wider. But you're right about the round ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/cLMds.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 15 June, 2012, 10:41:11 PM
That's "futuristic" obviously.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 June, 2012, 11:03:43 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 09:57:10 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 15 June, 2012, 09:13:50 PM
That's the SI2K rig, from what I remember.. All the stuff that wasn't necessary on the camera was put on the backpack, which gave it the ghostbuster nickname.. The theme tune apparently got played over the radios every now and again..


Paradise FX advised Dod Mantle not to shoot a film on them, he said phuck 'em. He explains in this interview the difference between his 3D work on Dredd and Cameron on Avatar:


http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/mgoldman/video/podcast_the_adventures_of_anthony_dod_mantle_part_2/

Could you give us the gist? I was wondering if this was the first use of them but apparently not. I can't view the link though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 11:11:45 PM
I couldn't put it across as well as Dod Mantle. You need to wait for the audio clip to load fully, it's only quicktime.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 June, 2012, 11:58:04 PM
Quote from: Waltev on 15 June, 2012, 10:22:07 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 15 June, 2012, 09:29:53 PM
I was wondering about the ammo clips on the belt, there's one obviously fatter than the others. i take it the narrow magazines load into the grip and are standard/rapid fire rounds and the fat one loads into the front for HE/IR. Would that be correct? (apologies if this has been raised elsewhere, didn't see it).

(http://i.imgur.com/NNMCN.jpg)

Comparing to the "real" world those seem to be your basic 17-round Glock clips.
The viewing holes in the mags to assess amount of ammo left pretty much give away the game... taking into account the basic Glock17 look of the Lawgiver's grip. Of course we can't have that 'cause the MarkII Lawgiver mag is supposed to hold a bit more Standard Execution ammo than 17 puny 9mm rounds... right? :)

Just the viewing angle, I suppose.

I reckon mr. MichaelVK, if anyone, could enlighten us as to the fact whether the "front chamber" dispensing the variable ammo gets reloaded (and if so, how cool does that look) during the movie :)

I can tell you how I reckon it'd sort of work.. But then I'd be ruining the surprise in the special features ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on 16 June, 2012, 12:47:58 AM
I think a workable yet striking Mega-Cit style would basically be everyone in this blog

http://www.hel-looks.com/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 June, 2012, 12:52:14 AM
It's Mega-City 1 not Hipster-City 1.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 16 June, 2012, 12:59:08 AM
QuoteI think a workable yet striking Mega-Cit style would basically be everyone in this blog

Yeah,

I'm digging that style, look at Blade Runner to see how contemporary style bleeds into the future!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on 16 June, 2012, 01:02:24 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 June, 2012, 12:52:14 AM
It's Mega-City 1 not Hipster-City 1.

I draw the jury's attention to Exhibit A, the beer crate in the bottom right of  this picture (http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/179983_443240125693846_1640959106_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 June, 2012, 01:12:12 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2012, 11:11:45 PM
I couldn't put it across as well as Dod Mantle. You need to wait for the audio clip to load fully, it's only quicktime.

Thanks. My internet was F'd as usual. I misread your post earlier and he seemed to be quite fine with it. At this point I'm willing to go on faith.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 June, 2012, 01:16:04 AM
I think it was actually you who mentioned Tron wasn't a great example of 3D, and after watching Prometheus I'm a little less skeptical about the whole thing. I'll definitely endure the glasses since I get the feeling they're at least attempting to use it to its potential.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 June, 2012, 01:30:12 AM
I never saw TRON in 3D, only 2D. Prometheus was barely 3D, don't know why they bothered.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 16 June, 2012, 01:37:28 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 June, 2012, 01:30:12 AM
I never saw TRON in 3D, only 2D. Prometheus was barely 3D, don't know why they bothered.

I thought the 3D was the best thing about Prometheus.  It made it more of an immersive experience.  Shame the script had so many flaws.  But I was glad there wasn't much of the gimmicky things jumping at your face nonsense.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 16 June, 2012, 02:02:10 AM
Quote from: Dirty Sanchez on 16 June, 2012, 12:47:58 AM
I think a workable yet striking Mega-Cit style would basically be everyone in this blog

http://www.hel-looks.com/
God I miss Helsinki: must move back.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 June, 2012, 02:03:43 AM
Yeah, I just found it non-gimmicky/intrusive this time. If it wasn't for an aisle or exit light constantly bouncing off the glasses I probably wouldn't have thought about it much.

Which I suppose is an argument against it, but there you go.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Radbacker on 16 June, 2012, 03:13:06 AM
I really think we might be in for something special on the 3D with this, the whole story seems foccused around it's essential use in certain places well from the script anyway there seems to be [spoiler]quite a few Bullet time slow mo head shots and the like that are viewed from the perpective of someone jacked up on Slo-mo that really sound like there going a whole new way to show off the 3D, not just stuff coming out the screen, stuff coming out the screen in slow motion!!!.[/spoiler]

CU Radbacker
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 16 June, 2012, 07:42:40 AM
For me the crazies and Perps need to look edgey... some thing like this.  Check out prodigy dot com for more.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 16 June, 2012, 07:48:39 AM
Quote from: Radbacker on 16 June, 2012, 03:13:06 AM
I really think we might be in for something special on the 3D with this, the whole story seems foccused around it's essential use in certain places well from the script anyway there seems to be [spoiler]quite a few Bullet time slow mo head shots and the like that are viewed from the perpective of someone jacked up on Slo-mo that really sound like there going a whole new way to show off the 3D, not just stuff coming out the screen, stuff coming out the screen in slow motion!!!.[/spoiler]
CU Radbacker

Agreed, I had no idea what to expect from the 3-D aspect of this movie (despite having read the script several times), but that leaked pre-viz is highly intriguing in it's peek into how the DNA Films guys are going all-out in the stereoscopic imaging and visual effect department, this could be something truly special and genuinely unique...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 16 June, 2012, 08:02:00 AM
Quote from: Dirty Sanchez on 16 June, 2012, 12:47:58 AM
I think a workable yet striking Mega-Cit style would basically be everyone in this blog
http://www.hel-looks.com/

Hussein Chayalan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52iZZWKB6YI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52iZZWKB6YI)

The audio on this is pure Zoolander, but the guy's dramatic silhouettes and use of light are very cinematic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 16 June, 2012, 08:29:50 AM
Anyone else notice the skateboard pic with 'fatties rule' on the halfpipe and the smiley face,a nod to Chopper? One of the extras looks like he has Chopper hair.
the pic is number 14
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.443238722360653.105988.167521819932346&type=3
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stella Dave on 16 June, 2012, 10:36:05 AM
Quote from: Dirty Sanchez on 16 June, 2012, 01:02:24 AM
I draw the jury's attention to Exhibit A, the beer crate in the bottom right of  this picture (http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/179983_443240125693846_1640959106_n.jpg)
Bread crate
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 16 June, 2012, 10:39:35 AM
Ballet and Joy Division inspire me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 June, 2012, 11:42:55 AM
That's actually not surprising. The final mystery of Godpleton explained.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 16 June, 2012, 12:15:51 PM
Makes you wonder though: If skysurfing existed, why would anyone much about with skate parks?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 16 June, 2012, 12:21:01 PM
Some of the Sci fi websites I browse speak of how depressing Sci Fi has become Dystopia's triumphing over Trekkie style optimism.

Could a grounded Chopper reflect this unhappy if realistic streak in Sci Fi culture at the moment?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 16 June, 2012, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: Adrian Bamforth on 16 June, 2012, 12:15:51 PM
Makes you wonder though: If skysurfing existed, why would anyone much about with skate parks?

That's like saying if CDs exist why do people play records  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 16 June, 2012, 01:11:10 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 16 June, 2012, 12:21:01 PM
Some of the Sci fi websites I browse speak of how depressing Sci Fi has become Dystopia's triumphing over Trekkie style optimism.

Could a grounded Chopper reflect this unhappy if realistic streak in Sci Fi culture at the moment?
Thats my guess.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 16 June, 2012, 01:56:18 PM
Quote from: Adrian Bamforth on 16 June, 2012, 12:15:51 PM
Makes you wonder though: If skysurfing existed, why would anyone much about with skate parks?
There's always someone who'll want to be 'retro': it's probably more rebellious to stick to old-skool wheels and concrete.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 June, 2012, 02:45:28 PM
I hate to be that guy, and I trust the marketing peeps know what they're doing, but maybe it's time to throw something out there? Even if it's just set footage or something, in a similar vein to the birthday message?

I understand there's still 3 months to go, but still..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 16 June, 2012, 03:42:39 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 16 June, 2012, 01:56:18 PM
Quote from: Adrian Bamforth on 16 June, 2012, 12:15:51 PM
Makes you wonder though: If skysurfing existed, why would anyone much about with skate parks?
There's always someone who'll want to be 'retro': it's probably more rebellious to stick to old-skool wheels and concrete.

..that and it's cheaper to film..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 16 June, 2012, 04:22:11 PM
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/MegaCityperspective.jpg)

I have loved this image so much since it turned up that I've just pored over it as much as I can but I have to confess, something about it started bothering me and I couldn't put my finger on it. Not in terms of concept but something technical. And then I figured out what it was:

Perspective. The perspective of the building Dredd's walking out of doesn't match the blocks in the background. Red lines are the perspective guides to the lobby. Yellow lines are the straight up-and-down of the blocks.

Couple of explanantions: The building's lobby's walls are slightly angled? Feel like this is unlikely as the shuttered door to Dredd's left follows the same angle as the entrance.

The cityscape in the background is actually just concept art, not a finished shot from the movie?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 June, 2012, 04:29:47 PM
Wait'll Scojo gets a hold of this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dancornwell on 16 June, 2012, 04:49:38 PM
I can't wait for this film, although I will have some doubts about the vehicles. Seeing as Dredd entered service in 2079 or so and from what's been shown their justice dept vehicles are Toyota hilux. I know top gear said they are indistructable but come on. 60 years in the future cars have not changed? Or have they set the date of this film earlier? Basicaly changed dredds history. I know mr Wagner has some problems with this too, I wonder what they responded to him?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dancornwell on 16 June, 2012, 04:51:32 PM
Also the fashions haven't changed. Jeans hoods and t-shirts. Still.....can't wait.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 16 June, 2012, 05:04:01 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 June, 2012, 04:29:47 PM
Wait'll Scojo gets a hold of this.

Oy vey! Haha!

It's just a tiny niggle. Probably completely unnoticeable in the finished scene especially if the camera's moving and for all I know, this is common in all these movies. I know in animation we cheat this stuff all the time for the sake of having something look cool at the expense of technical correct-ness.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 16 June, 2012, 05:10:20 PM
Quote from: dancornwell on 16 June, 2012, 04:49:38 PM
... I will have some doubts about the vehicles. Seeing as Dredd entered service in 2079 or so and from what's been shown their justice dept vehicles are Toyota hilux. I know top gear said they are indistructable but come on. 60 years in the future cars have not changed? Or have they set the date of this film earlier? Basicaly changed dredds history...
I reckon they just set out to make the very best film they could with the relatively tiny budget they had. Not an exact recreation of the strip: something that will work on cohesively on its own merits: the smart approach in other words.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 16 June, 2012, 05:17:05 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 16 June, 2012, 04:22:11 PM
Couple of explanantions: The building's lobby's walls are slightly angled? Feel like this is unlikely as the shuttered door to Dredd's left follows the same angle as the entrance. The cityscape in the background is actually just concept art, not a finished shot from the movie?

Forced perspective, as seen in The Last Supper; that and camera lenses distort images. Take a ruler to your TV screen and see if any of the vertical lines are flush.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 June, 2012, 05:20:10 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 16 June, 2012, 05:17:05 PM
Forced perspective, as seen in The Last Supper; that and camera lenses distort images. Take a ruler to your TV screen and see if any of the vertical lines are flush.


Camera lens distortion wouldn't occur as straight vertical lines. They'd be curved.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 June, 2012, 05:20:44 PM
Quote from: dancornwell on 16 June, 2012, 04:49:38 PM
I can't wait for this film, although I will have some doubts about the vehicles. Seeing as Dredd entered service in 2079 or so and from what's been shown their justice dept vehicles are Toyota hilux. I know top gear said they are indistructable but come on. 60 years in the future cars have not changed? Or have they set the date of this film earlier? Basicaly changed dredds history. I know mr Wagner has some problems with this too, I wonder what they responded to him?


There's no date set in the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 16 June, 2012, 05:32:19 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 16 June, 2012, 05:17:05 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 16 June, 2012, 04:22:11 PM
Couple of explanantions: The building's lobby's walls are slightly angled? Feel like this is unlikely as the shuttered door to Dredd's left follows the same angle as the entrance. The cityscape in the background is actually just concept art, not a finished shot from the movie?

Forced perspective, as seen in The Last Supper; that and camera lenses distort images. Take a ruler to your TV screen and see if any of the vertical lines are flush.

Yeah, but even with forced perspective vanishing points have to match all the elements in the shot. The buildings in the background are a straight up-and down whereas the building Dredd's exiting is not. The most likely explanation for me looking at the shot is that the fx guys didn't take the live-action shot's angle into consideration when they placed the two elements together. Anyway, like I said, just a tiny niggle...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 June, 2012, 05:39:00 PM
I saw that but I don't think there's any point in picking on the perspective. Perspective systems are a means to create the illusion of depth on flat surfaces, but it doesn't always look right or coorespondents with reality. Secondly, as this is a dramatic production they will be using a kind of accelerated perspective, as in stagecraft, this intensifies the depth. Vertical lines that tend toward the edges of a camera are lens warped. Sometimes you have to do it wrong for it to look right. I've heard it said the vertical lines on the grill of the Rolls Royce are not true 90 degrees, but slightly off for this reason. Beyond that, your own eye warps the world. Leonardo Da Vinci realized this and developed the curvelinear perspective system, nobody uses it, but it is supposedly more 'correct' to the eye.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 16 June, 2012, 05:43:48 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 June, 2012, 04:29:47 PM
Wait'll Scojo gets a hold of this.

I'll happily have a quiet word about it with him..  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 16 June, 2012, 05:46:03 PM
Quote from: dancornwell on 16 June, 2012, 04:49:38 PMI know mr Wagner has some problems with this too, I wonder what they responded to him?

..can we borrow a few quid to fix it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 16 June, 2012, 05:46:17 PM
This is the shot as is:

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/576793_10151028445845985_1627431366_n.jpg)

Forgive the crudeness of some hastily produced Photoshop but here's something close to the proper perspective for the cityscape:

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/Correctperspective.jpg)

I agree with all your points Booda. This stuff is cheated all the time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Radbacker on 16 June, 2012, 05:51:52 PM
the midget Judge on the lefty cracks meup.

Cu Radbacker
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 June, 2012, 05:52:11 PM
...and many who've claimed the moon-landings were faked based their 'theories' on seeming perspective anomalies from lunar photography, in each case failing to see we don't live in a straight-line universe.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 June, 2012, 05:52:51 PM
Quote from: Radbacker on 16 June, 2012, 05:51:52 PM
the midget Judge on the lefty cracks meup.

Cu Radbacker
That's just the perspective ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 June, 2012, 05:55:10 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 16 June, 2012, 05:46:17 PM
This is the shot as is:

I agree with all your points Booda. This stuff is cheated all the time.

...damn I love that shot!...so I guess I am showing my bias :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 June, 2012, 05:55:28 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 16 June, 2012, 05:39:00 PM
Vertical lines that tend toward the edges of a camera are lens warped.


Your general point is sound but warping is generally a consistent perspective feature throughout a shot if caused by a lens, not just angled at the edges then straight in the middle.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 June, 2012, 06:00:29 PM
Yes, it's all wrong, just more noticeably at the edges.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 June, 2012, 06:04:55 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 June, 2012, 05:55:28 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 16 June, 2012, 05:39:00 PM
Vertical lines that tend toward the edges of a camera are lens warped.


Your general point is sound but warping is generally a consistent perspective feature throughout a shot if caused by a lens, not just angled at the edges then straight in the middle.

With perspective drawing there comes a point where you have to begin to dodge the rules. I've made many panorama paintings over the years, I've noticed that only a small % of the center of a picture can be used to stitch images together for a reference. Of course it's splaying out in the center too, just not so dramatically.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 June, 2012, 06:10:37 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 16 June, 2012, 04:22:11 PM
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/MegaCityperspective.jpg)
iPerspective. The perspective of the building Dredd's walking out of

Blackmoco, The only thing I saw was Eustace. I noticed that. But I did so like Eddie Izzards mnemonic ally challenged goldfish ...I thought "hey that's...zzzzt...a lovely picture!"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 16 June, 2012, 06:27:15 PM
Quote from: dancornwell on 16 June, 2012, 04:51:32 PM
Also the fashions haven't changed. Jeans hoods and t-shirts.
I'm sure people from the 1950s would be just as disappointed.

Quote from: BOODA on 16 June, 2012, 05:52:11 PM
...and many who've claimed the moon-landings were faked based their 'theories' on seeming perspective anomalies from lunar photography, in each case failing to see we don't live in a straight-line universe.
...or my house.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 16 June, 2012, 06:30:21 PM
Put that last comment badly and now can't edit - What I meant to say is that my house is anything but a straight-line universe. It's not easy to wallpaper.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 16 June, 2012, 07:03:01 PM
.... Bloody hell we need a trailer fast!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 16 June, 2012, 07:17:06 PM
Can we please get back to how crap the extras dress sense is please?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 16 June, 2012, 07:26:42 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 16 June, 2012, 06:10:37 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 16 June, 2012, 04:22:11 PM
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/MegaCityperspective.jpg)
iPerspective. The perspective of the building Dredd's walking out of

Blackmoco, The only thing I saw was Eustace. I noticed that. But I did so like Eddie Izzards mnemonic ally challenged goldfish ...I thought "hey that's...zzzzt...a lovely picture!"
Just on the judges to the left, are they wearing some kind of jacket?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 June, 2012, 07:33:22 PM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 16 June, 2012, 07:26:42 PM
Just on the judges to the left, are they wearing some kind of jacket?


The ones at the Pat-Wagons are too. It's casual.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 June, 2012, 07:33:37 PM
I only just got why they gave him a blond un-helmetted sidekick. She's the Anne Lewis to his Robocop.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 16 June, 2012, 07:51:44 PM
The Makepeace to his Dempsey.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 16 June, 2012, 07:52:10 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 16 June, 2012, 07:03:01 PM
.... Bloody hell we need a trailer fast!
Are you sure you don't want to hear more about my wallpaper? It's very nice wallpaper.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 16 June, 2012, 07:52:47 PM
Quote from: Stan on 16 June, 2012, 07:33:37 PM
I only just got why they gave him a blond un-helmetted sidekick. She's the Anne Lewis to his Robocop.

That's some cart-before-the-horse observation right here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 June, 2012, 08:42:57 PM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 16 June, 2012, 07:52:47 PM
Quote from: Stan on 16 June, 2012, 07:33:37 PM
I only just got why they gave him a blond un-helmetted sidekick. She's the Anne Lewis to his Robocop.

That's some cart-before-the-horse observation right here.

At least Danbo gets it. And Makepeace would've made a great Anderson. Assuming that was the chick.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 16 June, 2012, 08:48:43 PM
She would have made a great anything,babe on toast.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 16 June, 2012, 09:13:12 PM
There's a guy on the Facebook page right now claiming to have  tickets to a preview showing this Wednesday...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 June, 2012, 09:19:56 PM
Quote from: M.I.K. on 16 June, 2012, 06:30:21 PM
Put that last comment badly and now can't edit - What I meant to say is that my house is anything but a straight-line universe. It's not easy to wallpaper.
I remember a flat where if you spilt a drink -and we're quick enough- You could get it to roll back into your glass at the other end of the room...maybe with time I've exaggerated things...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 16 June, 2012, 09:24:41 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 16 June, 2012, 04:22:11 PM
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/MegaCityperspective.jpg)

I have loved this image so much since it turned up that I've just pored over it as much as I can but I have to confess, something about it started bothering me and I couldn't put my finger on it. Not in terms of concept but something technical. And then I figured out what it was:

Perspective. The perspective of the building Dredd's walking out of doesn't match the blocks in the background. Red lines are the perspective guides to the lobby. Yellow lines are the straight up-and-down of the blocks.

Couple of explanantions: The building's lobby's walls are slightly angled? Feel like this is unlikely as the shuttered door to Dredd's left follows the same angle as the entrance.

The cityscape in the background is actually just concept art, not a finished shot from the movie?

There's nothing wrong with the perspective in this shot. The walls of the building Dredd's walking out of are close up, and shot from a fairly low angle. Thus the perspective naturally causes the walls to converge towards the top of the frame. Due to the low the top of the walls are significantly further away from the viewpoint than the base of the walls. The buildings in the background, on the other hand, are much further away from the viewpoint in the first place. The tops of these buildings are not sigificantly further away from the viewpoint than their bases. Hence the effect of perspective on their verticals is much less pronounced. The overall effect is more pronounced than you would see with the naked eye because it has been shot with a reasonably wide-angle lens.

I'm a photographer. I know how the shot would look if I took it from the same angle with a 17mm (APS-C) lens, and that's pretty much it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 June, 2012, 09:25:35 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 16 June, 2012, 09:13:12 PM
There's a guy on the Facebook page right now claiming to have  tickets to a preview showing this Wednesday...

It's ruined by comments from Scojo
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 16 June, 2012, 09:26:52 PM
QuoteIt's ruined by comments from Scojo

Isn't everything ? lol
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 June, 2012, 09:56:29 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 June, 2012, 07:33:22 PM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 16 June, 2012, 07:26:42 PM
Just on the judges to the left, are they wearing some kind of jacket?


The ones at the Pat-Wagons are too. It's casual.
I was going to mention the fella in the long coat...I don't want to know about the script, but it's a compelling image.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 16 June, 2012, 10:03:31 PM
 :-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 June, 2012, 10:50:40 PM
Just waiting for him to pick up on this bit of news...

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/06/16/publisher-of-2000ad-given-obe-by-the-queen/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/06/16/publisher-of-2000ad-given-obe-by-the-queen/)

His head will explode.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 16 June, 2012, 10:52:59 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 16 June, 2012, 09:56:29 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 June, 2012, 07:33:22 PM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 16 June, 2012, 07:26:42 PM
Just on the judges to the left, are they wearing some kind of jacket?

The ones at the Pat-Wagons are too. It's casual.
I was going to mention the fella in the long coat...I don't want to know about the script, but it's a compelling image.

Trenchcoats on a bright and sunny afternoon? Goth division.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 16 June, 2012, 10:57:49 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 16 June, 2012, 09:24:41 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 16 June, 2012, 04:22:11 PM
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/MegaCityperspective.jpg)

I have loved this image so much since it turned up that I've just pored over it as much as I can but I have to confess, something about it started bothering me and I couldn't put my finger on it. Not in terms of concept but something technical. And then I figured out what it was:

Perspective. The perspective of the building Dredd's walking out of doesn't match the blocks in the background. Red lines are the perspective guides to the lobby. Yellow lines are the straight up-and-down of the blocks.

Couple of explanantions: The building's lobby's walls are slightly angled? Feel like this is unlikely as the shuttered door to Dredd's left follows the same angle as the entrance.

The cityscape in the background is actually just concept art, not a finished shot from the movie?

There's nothing wrong with the perspective in this shot. The walls of the building Dredd's walking out of are close up, and shot from a fairly low angle. Thus the perspective naturally causes the walls to converge towards the top of the frame. Due to the low the top of the walls are significantly further away from the viewpoint than the base of the walls. The buildings in the background, on the other hand, are much further away from the viewpoint in the first place. The tops of these buildings are not sigificantly further away from the viewpoint than their bases. Hence the effect of perspective on their verticals is much less pronounced. The overall effect is more pronounced than you would see with the naked eye because it has been shot with a reasonably wide-angle lens.

I'm a photographer. I know how the shot would look if I took it from the same angle with a 17mm (APS-C) lens, and that's pretty much it.

If you say so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 June, 2012, 11:29:31 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 16 June, 2012, 08:48:43 PM
She would have made a great anything,babe on toast.

Indeed. By strange coincidence she also played a MILF copper in Emmerdale.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 June, 2012, 11:38:22 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 16 June, 2012, 10:52:59 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 16 June, 2012, 09:56:29 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 June, 2012, 07:33:22 PM

Trenchcoats on a bright and sunny afternoon? Goth division.
You nailed it... That chap is very Nosferatu..Max Shreck
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 16 June, 2012, 11:58:06 PM
Man, that "stonejones" aka whatever guy is really stinking up the facebook page. It'd be nice if they could ban him, though I guess he'd just turn up under a different name. Criticism is one thing, but that level of obsession is creating a weird atmosphere over there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 17 June, 2012, 12:04:43 AM
I'm beginning to think there might be something in all this after all. The angles seem a little off in this reverse view too. Subsidance?

(http://www.shockya.com/news/wp-content/uploads/judge-dredd-2-set-photo1c.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 17 June, 2012, 12:13:09 AM
Quote from: bikini kill on 17 June, 2012, 12:04:43 AM
I'm beginning to think there might be something in all this after all. The angles seem a little off in this reverse view too. Subsidance?

(http://www.shockya.com/news/wp-content/uploads/judge-dredd-2-set-photo1c.jpg)

Another thing: why are there so many cranes and camera rigs in Mega City 1??! Clearly this film is doomed to failure etc ( ;) )
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 17 June, 2012, 01:25:46 AM
Quote from: Syne on 16 June, 2012, 11:58:06 PM
Man, that "stonejones" aka whatever guy is really stinking up the facebook page. It'd be nice if they could ban him, though I guess he'd just turn up under a different name. Criticism is one thing, but that level of obsession is creating a weird atmosphere over there.

It's so weird that he's obsessed with ensuring the movie is NOT going to be good! Most people freak out about stuff being good even when it's crap. He's the opposite. 'Lampy' doesn't even begin to cover it...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Judge_T on 17 June, 2012, 01:31:35 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 17 June, 2012, 01:25:46 AM
Quote from: Syne on 16 June, 2012, 11:58:06 PM
Man, that "stonejones" aka whatever guy is really stinking up the facebook page. It'd be nice if they could ban him, though I guess he'd just turn up under a different name. Criticism is one thing, but that level of obsession is creating a weird atmosphere over there.

It's so weird that he's obsessed with ensuring the movie is NOT going to be good! Most people freak out about stuff being good even when it's crap. He's the opposite. 'Lampy' doesn't even begin to cover it...

He's one of those crazy people that find it cool to hate on something popular or he's just trolling to get attention.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 June, 2012, 01:57:27 AM
I don't think it's trolling in the traditional sense. A person like that has to be emotionally disturbed. It's actually sad if you think about it.

But I prefer not to think about it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 17 June, 2012, 03:07:44 AM
Well folks, I don't what to tell yiz. It's true, someone on Facebook claims they've preview tickets to a screening of Dredd on Wednesday here in Los Angeles. Upon a hunch, I drove up to Burbank's biggest theater chain where he claims he saw Prometheus this morning and I kid you fucking not, I now have tickets to see Dredd!! On Wednesday!!!! Fucking unbelievable!

Oh and "Dredd will be rated 'R' for strong bloody violence, language, drug use and some sexual content".

GET IN!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 June, 2012, 03:15:17 AM
Nice one. Can't wait to see what a non-suit thinks of it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2012, 03:18:35 AM
Jammy bastard.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 17 June, 2012, 03:25:18 AM
I think my nine-year old thought I'd lost my mind. We were sitting in a restaurant eating dinner and then I just upped and told her we were driving to Burbank to look for tickets. Walked around like a gombeen looking for someone with a clipboard and just as I was about to leave, lo and behold, out he emerges from the masses holding a Dredd A4.

I'm dangerously excited but as I drove home (blasting Black Sabbath) I started to get an awful worry about why they're screening a movie with no trailer three months before it's due to be released. They're testing it for sure and I hope that doesn't mean they're concerned about the violence. I predict lots of comment cards afterward...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2012, 03:28:17 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 17 June, 2012, 03:25:18 AM
I'm dangerously excited but as I drove home (blasting Black Sabbath) I started to get an awful worry about why they're screening a movie with no trailer three months before it's due to be released. They're testing it for sure and I hope that doesn't mean they're concerned about the violence. I predict lots of comment cards afterward...


Make sure you comment: not violent enough.


*What Sabbath album?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 17 June, 2012, 03:31:41 AM
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2012, 03:32:41 AM
Nice.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2012, 03:34:23 AM
If it's bad, how are you ever going to break it to the rest of us?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 17 June, 2012, 03:38:50 AM
Unfortunately, I don't know if my opinion can be objective at first. Haha! I thought Stallone's one was great for about six months until sanity slowly seeped in...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2012, 03:40:20 AM
As far as testing goes, it's usually the films they don't test or screen that are the turkeys.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 17 June, 2012, 03:44:44 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 16 June, 2012, 10:57:49 PMIf you say so.

Actually no, I don't. Now that I look at it again it is wrong. Perhaps I'm just so used to the perspective distortion effects of wide-angle lenses that nothing looks odd to me anymore.

(For those talking about lens distortion producing curved lines earlier on, that's a whole different thing. It is barrel or pincushion distortion as opposed to perspective distortion.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2012, 03:54:52 AM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 17 June, 2012, 03:44:44 AM
(For those talking about lens distortion producing curved lines earlier on, that's a whole different thing. It is barrel or pincushion distortion as opposed to perspective distortion.)




but the wider the lens, the more curvilinear the lines -heading towards fish-eye- at the edges; unless you use a rectilinear lens which renders the curves straight(er). It looks like something around a 17mm lens in the shot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 17 June, 2012, 04:15:31 AM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 17 June, 2012, 03:44:44 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 16 June, 2012, 10:57:49 PMIf you say so.

Actually no, I don't. Now that I look at it again it is wrong. Perhaps I'm just so used to the perspective distortion effects of wide-angle lenses that nothing looks odd to me anymore.

(For those talking about lens distortion producing curved lines earlier on, that's a whole different thing. It is barrel or pincushion distortion as opposed to perspective distortion.)

Yeah, it's funny. After your comment I was looking hard and starting to think you were making a very good point but it's the nearer distant buildings on the left side of the image that kept throwing me off. Like I said, this won't even be noticeable when the movie's playing but it did get me thinking about how someone could make, well, a pretty novice error...

Rest assured, I'll keep you all abreast of any crooked perspective lines after Wednesday...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 17 June, 2012, 04:27:01 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2012, 03:40:20 AM
As far as testing goes, it's usually the films they don't test or screen that are the turkeys.
This is pretty much gospel when it comes to movies. If its good, they make sure reviewers get to see it as early as possible. If it's a dud, they hide it until the very last moment.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 17 June, 2012, 04:52:52 AM
Oh blackmocco... I really hope they release a trailer before you see it. Because if not, you are it, my friend.

Thrilljackers everywhere, asking you about helmet size, boot size, fonts... the naysayers, the fanboys, the spoiler-fascists, the anti-spoiler fascists...

You will be our Aaron A. Aardvark. Blood sacrifice, I say!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 17 June, 2012, 04:54:20 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 17 June, 2012, 04:52:52 AM
Oh blackmocco... I really hope they release a trailer before you see it. Because if not, you are it, my friend.

Thrilljackers everywhere, asking you about helmet size, boot size, fonts... the naysayers, the fanboys, the spoiler-fascists, the anti-spoiler fascists...

You will be our Aaron A. Aardvark. Blood sacrifice, I say!

I bet they'll make him sign an NDA about specifics or something, so I wouldn't get my hopes up about details.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 17 June, 2012, 06:01:59 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 17 June, 2012, 03:25:18 AM
I'm dangerously excited but as I drove home (blasting Black Sabbath) I started to get an awful worry about why they're screening a movie with no trailer three months before it's due to be released. They're testing it for sure and I hope that doesn't mean they're concerned about the violence. I predict lots of comment cards afterward...

... and a detailed review right here about one hour later, if you know what's good for you >:(...

And cut that whole perspective crap out, will ya's, that shot is a thing of beauty, and I don't want some boffin or nerd screwing it up by pointing out little niggles... sorry for popping off somewhat there, I just don't want people here getting all anal retentive about released shots, cut out the negative waves and just think beautiful thoughts (man)...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 17 June, 2012, 06:04:27 AM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 17 June, 2012, 04:54:20 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 17 June, 2012, 04:52:52 AM
Oh blackmocco... I really hope they release a trailer before you see it. Because if not, you are it, my friend.

Thrilljackers everywhere, asking you about helmet size, boot size, fonts... the naysayers, the fanboys, the spoiler-fascists, the anti-spoiler fascists...

You will be our Aaron A. Aardvark. Blood sacrifice, I say!

I bet they'll make him sign an NDA about specifics or something, so I wouldn't get my hopes up about details.


That'll make it even more painful. We can spend hours analysing his posts for hidden messages: "what's that, you just ate a cupcake? That's code for "action sequences looked fakey," isn't it!!!"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 17 June, 2012, 06:05:44 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 17 June, 2012, 06:01:59 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 17 June, 2012, 03:25:18 AM
I'm dangerously excited but as I drove home (blasting Black Sabbath) I started to get an awful worry about why they're screening a movie with no trailer three months before it's due to be released. They're testing it for sure and I hope that doesn't mean they're concerned about the violence. I predict lots of comment cards afterward...

... and a detailed review right here about one hour later, if you know what's good for you >:(...

And cut that whole perspective crap out, will ya's, that shot is a thing of beauty, and I don't want some boffin or nerd screwing it up by pointing out little niggles... sorry for popping off somewhat there, I just don't want people here getting all anal retentive about released shots, cut out the negative waves and just think beautiful thoughts (man)...

Clearly Dredd's firepower has knocked the block askew on its foundations. Case closed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 June, 2012, 08:00:20 AM
Well, I thought if it better he not tell us anythings, we wait till Sept for the film ourselves, and worth it as it only 2 and half months!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 17 June, 2012, 08:23:54 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 17 June, 2012, 03:07:44 AM
Well folks, I don't what to tell yiz. It's true, someone on Facebook claims they've preview tickets to a screening of Dredd on Wednesday here in Los Angeles. Upon a hunch, I drove up to Burbank's biggest theater chain where he claims he saw Prometheus this morning and I kid you fucking not, I now have tickets to see Dredd!! On Wednesday!!!! Fucking unbelievable!

Oh and "Dredd will be rated 'R' for strong bloody violence, language, drug use and some sexual content".

GET IN!!!!!!!!!
I was there only a month ago...damn it, my timing is beautiful. Enjoy!....grumble, mumble, groan.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 17 June, 2012, 09:28:25 AM
I dont think the magic powers of NDAs work on general members of the public, not employed in some way. The most they can do is ask you to please not tell.

Well, i expect you to treat that with the contempt it deserves- as you may well be seeing a cut your countrymen wont see in cinemas or on dvd.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 17 June, 2012, 09:33:43 AM
Oh yeah. Make sure you're honest with the questionaires.
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 17 June, 2012, 09:28:25 AM
I dont think the magic powers of NDAs work on general members of the public,

I know video game closed Betas can be pretty strict when it comes to nondisclosure agreements. Even if you're basically bug/balance testing a game for them for free.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 17 June, 2012, 09:38:33 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 17 June, 2012, 03:38:50 AM
Unfortunately, I don't know if my opinion can be objective at first. Haha! I thought Stallone's one was great for about six months until sanity slowly seeped in...

You lucky sod Blackmocco, I'm thrilled to bits for you!

I was exactly the same about the Stallone Dredd for about the same length of time. Attack of the Clones too, I think I was too blinded by love of the subject matter to be objective.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 17 June, 2012, 09:42:37 AM
Just tell us the nonscrots' reactions.
... and the approximate runtime!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stella Dave on 17 June, 2012, 10:07:21 AM
I don't know which I'm most jealous of...livin in LA, wait...cruisin through LA blasting Sabbath, wait...cruisin through LA blasting Sabbath on yer way to get DREDD preview tickets!!?
I long to go to LA, I'm half tempted to sell up and come over for the preview!

Very exciting news but it's a concern showing the preview in the US before cutting it for general release, they have a very different view to us Brits (where DREDD was created). It'll be very annoying if we hear about bits that've been cut which we'll probably never see (DVD extra?).
Personally I agree with Beaky about the perspective, it means nowt to me but I can understand how it would annoy people in the know but it's boring readin about it over and over!  :o

Anyhoo, your one lucky B! ENJOY.
Mocco, the world awaits YOUR (Honest Scot's) review! No pressure... :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 17 June, 2012, 10:13:35 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2012, 03:28:17 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 17 June, 2012, 03:25:18 AM
I'm dangerously excited but as I drove home (blasting Black Sabbath) I started to get an awful worry about why they're screening a movie with no trailer three months before it's due to be released. They're testing it for sure and I hope that doesn't mean they're concerned about the violence. I predict lots of comment cards afterward...

Make sure you comment: not violent enough.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ImHsGa18NYM/Rx6rzVmPapI/AAAAAAAAAbU/_YnpMsXsC34/s400/dementia1+copy.jpg)

Perm any three from the list above.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 17 June, 2012, 10:19:18 AM
Good job a certain person's not in the audience, they'd wipe out the rest of the fucking Amazon filling cards with his comments.

Have fun - at least it makes up for 2-T-Fru-T and getting nuked...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 17 June, 2012, 10:28:04 AM
Quote from: Stella Dave on 17 June, 2012, 10:07:21 AMMocco, the world awaits YOUR (Honest Scot's) review! No pressure... :lol:

Are you saying Blackmocco is S*o*o?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 17 June, 2012, 10:28:37 AM
Meant to add a winking smiley there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mike Carroll on 17 June, 2012, 10:29:09 AM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 17 June, 2012, 09:38:33 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 17 June, 2012, 03:38:50 AM
Unfortunately, I don't know if my opinion can be objective at first. Haha! I thought Stallone's one was great for about six months until sanity slowly seeped in...

You lucky sod Blackmocco, I'm thrilled to bits for you!

I was exactly the same about the Stallone Dredd for about the same length of time. Attack of the Clones too, I think I was too blinded by love of the subject matter to be objective.

Same here, for both of those movies and quite a few others (Star Trek: Generations, Spider-Man 3, Heat, Die Hard 2, Bram Stoker's Dracula...).

- Mike

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2012, 10:32:45 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 17 June, 2012, 10:28:37 AM
Meant to add a winking smiley there.


Are you saying he's a winker?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 17 June, 2012, 10:42:58 AM
Why would they be testing a film that's already received it's`R`rating and is therefore in it's finished state? :-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2012, 10:56:05 AM
They do that with most films. A rating has got nothing to do with how an audience will react and changes in the US do not meant changes for the rest of the world.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 17 June, 2012, 10:56:46 AM
So Lionsgate will have some idea how it'd be received and can budget and plan for marketing accordingly, and maybe give the number crunchers an idea of how well it's going to perform?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 17 June, 2012, 11:07:45 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 17 June, 2012, 10:56:46 AM
So Lionsgate will have some idea how it'd be received and can budget and plan for marketing accordingly, and maybe give the number crunchers an idea of how well it's going to perform?

If the film scores highly with a certain demographic (the type of people who actually go and see films), the Producers can present that information to theatre owners and lobby for more showings on more screens. Blackmocco should share his tickets with a group of young men aged 18-35 for maximum curve-skewing effect.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 17 June, 2012, 11:11:37 AM
Also IF it's good it's a great way to cheaply spread the word on the internet.
It''s already rated,the financiers have already seen it,could be they are quietly confident and they are going for a cheeky word of mouth exercise to kick start the campaign.
Or they are unsure about the gore? It's Sunday,I'm waffling,who cares.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 17 June, 2012, 11:20:47 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 17 June, 2012, 11:11:37 AM
Also IF it's good it's a great way to cheaply spread the word on the internet.
It''s already rated,the financiers have already seen it,could be they are quietly confident and they are going for a cheeky word of mouth exercise to kick start the campaign.
Or they are unsure about the gore? It's Sunday,I'm waffling,who cares.

Once the few self-selecting amateur critics among the two or three hundred random yahoos in that screening audience take to the internet, the impressive PR lockdown period of this film's gestation is officially over.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 17 June, 2012, 11:21:58 AM
You can scale your Song related Movie review chart blackmocco.

No 1:Black Sabbath=Top Movie ever.

No2: Led Zeppelin.= Super genius

No3: Metallica = Hot metal thrashtastic etc,
etc, etc

No50:The corpse of Micheal Jackson=minging badly
etc,etc,etc

No 100:Any 'Dance' tune you care to mention=Total codpiece.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stella Dave on 17 June, 2012, 11:28:36 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 17 June, 2012, 10:28:04 AM
Quote from: Stella Dave on 17 June, 2012, 10:07:21 AMMocco, the world awaits YOUR (Honest Scot's) review! No pressure... :lol:

Are you saying Blackmocco is S*o*o?
Que? No idea wot that means. If it's 'stating the obvious' or sommit? I apologise if he's not Scot's  :rolleyes: . I presumed so from the "Yiz" and his avatar. :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 17 June, 2012, 11:37:50 AM
Quote from: Stella Dave on 17 June, 2012, 11:28:36 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 17 June, 2012, 10:28:04 AM
Quote from: Stella Dave on 17 June, 2012, 10:07:21 AMMocco, the world awaits YOUR (Honest Scot's) review! No pressure... :lol:
Are you saying Blackmocco is S*o*o?
Que? No idea wot that means. If it's 'stating the obvious' or sommit? I apologise if he's not Scot's  :rolleyes: . I presumed so from the "Yiz" and his avatar. :-[

Blackmocco's one of the many Irishmen who frequent these parts, rather than a Jock. We both talk funny.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 17 June, 2012, 11:48:42 AM
Well one other person has declared on Facebook that he has tickets, and judging by the Sabbath references I'd guess the guy is Blackmocco. So which one of us is really 'The Thing'?

(http://cdn.chud.com/6/60/60c23ffd_thing106a.jpeg)

I want a sample from all of you!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2012, 11:59:30 AM
Quote from: bikini kill on 17 June, 2012, 11:37:50 AM
Quote from: Stella Dave on 17 June, 2012, 11:28:36 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 17 June, 2012, 10:28:04 AM
Quote from: Stella Dave on 17 June, 2012, 10:07:21 AMMocco, the world awaits YOUR (Honest Scot's) review! No pressure... :lol:
Are you saying Blackmocco is S*o*o?
Que? No idea wot that means. If it's 'stating the obvious' or sommit? I apologise if he's not Scot's  :rolleyes: . I presumed so from the "Yiz" and his avatar. :-[

Blackmocco's one of the many Irishmen who frequent these parts, rather than a Jock. We both talk funny.


A Dublin man and no less than a character designer for Family Guy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 17 June, 2012, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: Stella Dave on 17 June, 2012, 11:28:36 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 17 June, 2012, 10:28:04 AM
Quote from: Stella Dave on 17 June, 2012, 10:07:21 AMMocco, the world awaits YOUR (Honest Scot's) review! No pressure... :lol:

Are you saying Blackmocco is S*o*o?
Que? No idea wot that means. If it's 'stating the obvious' or sommit? I apologise if he's not Scot's  :rolleyes: . I presumed so from the "Yiz" and his avatar. :-[

Apologies for any confusion.  I was (weakly) jokingly suggesting that your use of the term 'Honest Scot' for notorious potato-muncher Blackmocco was a reference to Scott Nestle, insane arsehole extraordinaire, and likely real name of 'Stone Jones' over on Facebook.  I neither meant it, nor achieved my comedic goal.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stella Dave on 17 June, 2012, 12:06:53 PM
Ah, hence the awesome avatar!

:lol: no prob, I've only got 30 posts so I'm not too clued up on forum banter etc. but I am unfort already aware of the a$$hole on Facebook and his bitterness.

"Jock" I hate that!  :lol: Almost as bad as "Scotch".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 17 June, 2012, 12:18:01 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 17 June, 2012, 11:48:42 AM
Well one other person has declared on Facebook that he has tickets, and judging by the Sabbath references I'd guess the guy is Blackmocco. So which one of us is really 'The Thing'? I want a sample from all of you!

That's exactly what he'd say ... This is the kind of moronic questionnaire Blackmocco will be asked to fill out before leaving the theatre. CLICK (http://johnaugust.com/downloads_ripley/nines_questions.pdf)

Honestly; 'rate the story, pace and ending out of five'- compared to WHAT? The Bible's the best selling book of all time, does that mean it gets a 'five' for storytelling? Because I've never managed to read the whole thing. Does Dredd (2012) lose a mark for not having an ending as mental as the Book of Revelations? Would Dredd be improved by adding a few gnarly plagues and an upbeat, feelgood crucifixion? What's your fucking context and frame of reference?!

I'm with the late Bill Hicks on the artistic value of test audiences (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVS_DxhQGfI) (1m 40s).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 17 June, 2012, 01:12:42 PM
A pair of "magical scissors?" So that's how directors make movies. . .
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 17 June, 2012, 01:13:26 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 17 June, 2012, 09:38:33 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 17 June, 2012, 03:38:50 AM
Unfortunately, I don't know if my opinion can be objective at first. Haha! I thought Stallone's one was great for about six months until sanity slowly seeped in...
...I was exactly the same about the Stallone Dredd for about the same length of time. Attack of the Clones too, I think I was too blinded by love of the subject matter to be objective.
'The-desire-for-something-to-be-good-being-so-strong-that-it-initially-outweighs-the-evidence-of-your-own-eyes-and-ears'
We've all had it: future generations may call it 'The Prometheus Syndrome'.

Well done Mocco!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 17 June, 2012, 01:22:09 PM
Phantom Menace did it to me,I have however had it the opposite way around with Lord of the Rings amd the Matrix,hated them at first ,now I love them?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 17 June, 2012, 01:32:06 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 17 June, 2012, 01:22:09 PM
Phantom Menace did it to me,I have however had it the opposite way around with Lord of the Rings amd the Matrix,hated them at first ,now I love them?
The "It must be shite" effect; a common symtom of those suffering from severe post-"Prometheus Syndrome" taste-trauma.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 17 June, 2012, 01:46:41 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 17 June, 2012, 09:42:37 AM
Just tell us the nonscrots' reactions.
  :)
If 'nonscrots' is the term for those uninitiated in all things Dreddy; does that not make the rest of us sound like... um... a bunch of hairy bean-bags?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 17 June, 2012, 01:56:36 PM
I's like winning the golden ticket from Charlie and the Chocolate factory. Good fortune on the quest young blackmocco, please return safe with the elixir of " Hi-Ex hit,  '95 miss, or Prometheus."

And I'm no Thing tasty humans.

whoops. :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 17 June, 2012, 02:13:52 PM
I saw the Matrix in London when it first came out and thought it was a right snore-fest and I also like it much better now. Same goes for Empire Strikes Back - fell asleep numerous times yet now think it's the best of the six!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 17 June, 2012, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 17 June, 2012, 01:46:41 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 17 June, 2012, 09:42:37 AM
Just tell us the nonscrots' reactions.
  :)
If 'nonscrots' is the term for those uninitiated in all things Dreddy; does that not make the rest of us sound like... um... a bunch of hairy bean-bags?

You mean 'scrotes', with the all important 'e'.  Big big difference, except maybe to the uninitiated, but that's their fault for not reading the Galaxy's Greatest Comic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 17 June, 2012, 02:44:34 PM
I think 'nonscrot' originates from a badly typed Gerry Findley Day script - a mangling of 'escorting'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 17 June, 2012, 02:48:43 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 17 June, 2012, 09:28:25 AM
I dont think the magic powers of NDAs work on general members of the public, not employed in some way. The most they can do is ask you to please not tell.

You want him to find out just how they DO apply to general members of the public? :|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2012, 03:07:25 PM
(http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/blogs/static/dowbrigade/castration.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 June, 2012, 03:12:17 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 17 June, 2012, 10:56:46 AM
So Lionsgate will have some idea how it'd be received and can budget and plan for marketing accordingly, and maybe give the number crunchers an idea of how well it's going to perform?

We can probably rule out a trailer for the next couple of weeks then. Though it'll still be interesting to see what the proleteriat think of it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2012, 03:15:07 PM
Quote from: Stan on 17 June, 2012, 03:12:17 PM

We can probably rule out a trailer for the next couple of weeks then. Though it'll still be interesting to see what the proleteriat think of it.


I see no reason why not. The trailer is cut.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 17 June, 2012, 03:34:37 PM
Quote from: radiator on 17 June, 2012, 02:44:34 PM
I think 'nonscrot' originates from a badly typed Gerry Findley Day script - a mangling of 'escorting'.

I always thought it was an abbreviated form of 'scrotnig', with the 'non' added on to indicate no affiliation with the mag.

I guess we'll never know!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 17 June, 2012, 03:38:15 PM
Oh yes, right you are. Same source though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2012, 03:43:28 PM
It was Finley-Day who typed scrotnig -in a script for "Invasion"- that was a mangled version of escorting.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 17 June, 2012, 03:45:43 PM
I always thought 'nonscrot' = 'no-balls' and to be used as an insult.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 June, 2012, 04:06:39 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2012, 03:15:07 PM
Quote from: Stan on 17 June, 2012, 03:12:17 PM

We can probably rule out a trailer for the next couple of weeks then. Though it'll still be interesting to see what the proleteriat think of it.


I see no reason why not. The trailer is cut.

I'd forgotten about that but just have a feeling it's a sign the trailer won't be out any time soon. I'm not really informed enough about the process to know one way or the other though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: klute on 17 June, 2012, 04:43:37 PM
Quote from: Judge_T on 17 June, 2012, 01:31:35 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 17 June, 2012, 01:25:46 AM
Quote from: Syne on 16 June, 2012, 11:58:06 PM
Man, that "stonejones" aka whatever guy is really stinking up the facebook page. It'd be nice if they could ban him, though I guess he'd just turn up under a different name. Criticism is one thing, but that level of obsession is creating a weird atmosphere over there.

It's so weird that he's obsessed with ensuring the movie is NOT going to be good! Most people freak out about stuff being good even when it's crap. He's the opposite. 'Lampy' doesn't even begin to cover it...

He's one of those crazy people that find it cool to hate on something popular or he's just trolling to get attention.

Clearly he was dropped on his head as a child and has issues about it,regardless the guy's a fucknut complaining about a franchise he's supposed to like and a product he's yet to see (i refer you to prog 468 it pay's to be mental) with any luck somebody will find a cube for him
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: klute on 17 June, 2012, 04:51:08 PM
Quote from: klute on 17 June, 2012, 04:43:37 PM
Quote from: Judge_T on 17 June, 2012, 01:31:35 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 17 June, 2012, 01:25:46 AM
Quote from: Syne on 16 June, 2012, 11:58:06 PM
Man, that "stonejones" aka whatever guy is really stinking up the facebook page. It'd be nice if they could ban him, though I guess he'd just turn up under a different name. Criticism is one thing, but that level of obsession is creating a weird atmosphere over there.

It's so weird that he's obsessed with ensuring the movie is NOT going to be good! Most people freak out about stuff being good even when it's crap. He's the opposite. 'Lampy' doesn't even begin to cover it...

He's one of those crazy people that find it cool to hate on something popular or he's just trolling to get attention.

Clearly he was dropped on his head as a child and has issues about it,regardless the guy's a fucknut complaining about a franchise he's supposed to like and a product he's yet to see (i refer you to prog 468 it pay's to be mental) with any luck somebody will find a cube for him

Not that being a fan stop's you from complaining sometimes things niggle people and they complain.

On the other hand if you are a fruitcake with all the time in the world. Like he does then there's institutions for people like that.

Or maybe he just need's a man/woman
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 17 June, 2012, 04:53:04 PM
Quote from: kluteregardless the guy's a fucknut complaining about a franchise he's supposed to like and a product he's yet to see (i refer you to prog 468 it pay's to be mental) with any luck somebody will find a cube for him

In a rather bizarre coincidence, I re-read that only yesterday in one of the Case Files. Gibson FTW!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: klute on 17 June, 2012, 04:57:43 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 17 June, 2012, 04:53:04 PM
Quote from: kluteregardless the guy's a fucknut complaining about a franchise he's supposed to like and a product he's yet to see (i refer you to prog 468 it pay's to be mental) with any luck somebody will find a cube for him

In a rather bizarre coincidence, I re-read that only yesterday in one of the Case Files. Gibson FTW!

There was a couple of stories featuring the same guy. It alway's stuck out because his name is never mentioned. I was going to use it as my user name for the forum's till i went back and found the no name mystery unless i missed something.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 17 June, 2012, 05:14:52 PM
Quote from: klute on 17 June, 2012, 04:51:08 PMOr maybe he just need's a man/woman

Roger?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: klute on 17 June, 2012, 05:23:37 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 17 June, 2012, 05:14:52 PM
Quote from: klute on 17 June, 2012, 04:51:08 PMOr maybe he just need's a man/woman

Roger?

Roger or Rogering???? or a Rogering by Roger???  ;) i think that would completely detach his already loose brain and fragile mind
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 06:20:59 PM
..just said my 2ct's worth..

..how come I get (contractually justifiably) punished for promoting the film, and a waste of skin like that is allowed to do his upmost best to torpedo it?

Cock
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 17 June, 2012, 06:25:46 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 06:20:59 PM
..how come I get (contractually justifiably) punished for promoting the film, and a waste of skin like that is allowed to do his upmost best to torpedo it?

I'm working on it, believe me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 06:28:30 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 17 June, 2012, 06:25:46 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 06:20:59 PM
..how come I get (contractually justifiably) punished for promoting the film, and a waste of skin like that is allowed to do his upmost best to torpedo it?

I'm working on it, believe me.

You're my hero :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 17 June, 2012, 06:30:46 PM
[DING-DONG]

'Yes?'
'You Scott Nestle?'
'Maybe...'
'Hi. My names Michael..'
[PTOO-PTOO]

[Whistles...]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 17 June, 2012, 06:31:13 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 17 June, 2012, 06:25:46 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 06:20:59 PM
..how come I get (contractually justifiably) punished for promoting the film, and a waste of skin like that is allowed to do his upmost best to torpedo it?

I'm working on it, believe me.

Standard execution? :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Waltev on 17 June, 2012, 06:36:39 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 17 June, 2012, 12:18:01 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 17 June, 2012, 11:48:42 AM
Well one other person has declared on Facebook that he has tickets, and judging by the Sabbath references I'd guess the guy is Blackmocco. So which one of us is really 'The Thing'? I want a sample from all of you!

That's exactly what he'd say ... This is the kind of moronic questionnaire Blackmocco will be asked to fill out before leaving the theatre. CLICK (http://johnaugust.com/downloads_ripley/nines_questions.pdf)

That questionnaire is just fucking STUPID.

I've been a movie enthusiast for all of my life, I certainly know what I like and dislike - but as many of my fellow citizens, I didn't study literary drama in the university, so I have no drokking idea whatsoever how to even differentiate between first / second / third act...

The rest of the questionnaire is just as bonkers. Without a frame of reference (rightly pointed out by B. Kill) or any knowledge of your study group (except that he/she is Joe/Jane Doe), collecting answers like that is just going to give you a data set that'll lead to unpredictable knee-jerk reactions, if even that...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: klute on 17 June, 2012, 06:38:04 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 17 June, 2012, 06:25:46 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 06:20:59 PM
..how come I get (contractually justifiably) punished for promoting the film, and a waste of skin like that is allowed to do his upmost best to torpedo it?

I'm working on it, believe me.

Legally there MUST be a way to shut this moron up,It's not even as if he's clever enough to complain about the film without every man and his dog knowing who it is.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 17 June, 2012, 06:44:19 PM
Some of the things he's said about John Wagner are basically defamation of character.I hope he really does get some sort legal action against him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: klute on 17 June, 2012, 06:51:21 PM
Quote from: Waltev on 17 June, 2012, 06:36:39 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 17 June, 2012, 12:18:01 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 17 June, 2012, 11:48:42 AM
Well one other person has declared on Facebook that he has tickets, and judging by the Sabbath references I'd guess the guy is Blackmocco. So which one of us is really 'The Thing'? I want a sample from all of you!

That's exactly what he'd say ... This is the kind of moronic questionnaire Blackmocco will be asked to fill out before leaving the theatre. CLICK (http://johnaugust.com/downloads_ripley/nines_questions.pdf)

That questionnaire is just fucking STUPID.

I've been a movie enthusiast for all of my life, I certainly know what I like and dislike - but as many of my fellow citizens, I didn't study literary drama in the university, so I have no drokking idea whatsoever how to even differentiate between first / second / third act...

The rest of the questionnaire is just as bonkers. Without a frame of reference (rightly pointed out by B. Kill) or any knowledge of your study group (except that he/she is Joe/Jane Doe), collecting answers like that is just going to give you a data set that'll lead to unpredictable knee-jerk reactions, if even that...

I'm guessing it's not so much the dredd fan's they're worried about but the (john/jane doe) type's that fill the cinema's not that i'm saying that they shouldn't worry about us.

It not just the fan's that are going to make the film a success or a failure but a general audience.I would hope that having people like John Wagner involved would have eased they're minds to an extent regarding the fan's and maybe have atleast given them clairvoyance to add a few fan's of various dredd types into the study group
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 17 June, 2012, 06:52:07 PM
Could I suggest that we just stop talking about him here?
Mike says he's working on it, so we should really leave it at that and let the do their stuff.
Lets get back to a few pages discussing the straight lies on a photograph - that bit was great.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: klute on 17 June, 2012, 06:52:55 PM
Quote from: klute on 17 June, 2012, 06:51:21 PM
Quote from: Waltev on 17 June, 2012, 06:36:39 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 17 June, 2012, 12:18:01 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 17 June, 2012, 11:48:42 AM
Well one other person has declared on Facebook that he has tickets, and judging by the Sabbath references I'd guess the guy is Blackmocco. So which one of us is really 'The Thing'? I want a sample from all of you!

That's exactly what he'd say ... This is the kind of moronic questionnaire Blackmocco will be asked to fill out before leaving the theatre. CLICK (http://johnaugust.com/downloads_ripley/nines_questions.pdf)

That questionnaire is just fucking STUPID.

I've been a movie enthusiast for all of my life, I certainly know what I like and dislike - but as many of my fellow citizens, I didn't study literary drama in the university, so I have no drokking idea whatsoever how to even differentiate between first / second / third act...

The rest of the questionnaire is just as bonkers. Without a frame of reference (rightly pointed out by B. Kill) or any knowledge of your study group (except that he/she is Joe/Jane Doe), collecting answers like that is just going to give you a data set that'll lead to unpredictable knee-jerk reactions, if even that...

I'm guessing it's not so much the dredd fan's they're worried about but the (john/jane doe) type's that fill the cinema's not that i'm saying that they shouldn't worry about us.

It not just the fan's that are going to make the film a success or a failure but a general audience.I would hope that having people like John Wagner involved would have eased they're minds to an extent regarding the fan's and maybe have atleast given them clairvoyance to add a few fan's of various dredd types into the study group

IE the hardened Dredd fan Through to a more casual fan
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 06:54:28 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 17 June, 2012, 06:30:46 PM
[DING-DONG]

'Yes?'
'You Scott Nestle?'
'Maybe...'
'Hi. My names Michael..'
[PTOO-PTOO]

[Whistles...]

It'd have to be 'whistle while you work' like in The Naked gun..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 17 June, 2012, 06:55:03 PM
I know he has more usernames than Puff Daddy but I'm starting to notice different personality too,he disagrees or contradicts himself,I haven't decided if it's because he's winding you lot up or his boing doesn't quite bounce.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 17 June, 2012, 06:55:06 PM
No. Let's talk about the licenced game instead.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 06:57:20 PM
Anywho.. Back to that advanced screening.. You lucky, lucky bastard!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 17 June, 2012, 06:58:12 PM
Yeah,I'm last to the party as usual.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: klute on 17 June, 2012, 07:01:56 PM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 17 June, 2012, 06:55:06 PM
No. Let's talk about the licenced game instead.

I alway's say the same thing but i'd love a mmorpg where you can pick to be a judge/perp and leveling involves either working your way towards being a judge via training and missions or as a perp leveling via crime and general naughtyness.

Urban warfare pvp would be arsom done right maybe not for everyone but i'd love a game like that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 07:06:24 PM
I'd hate to have the movie tarnished by a movie tie-in game.. They're always crap..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: klute on 17 June, 2012, 07:10:29 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 07:06:24 PM
I'd hate to have the movie tarnished by a movie tie-in game.. They're always crap..

I'd say the same BUT with the mmorpg you have so much back story and characters you could use from the dreddverse.
With so many event's you could use to patch into the game after release
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 07:17:01 PM
I suppose.. However I'd rather take it the route of the comics instead of the movie.. Maybe have comic-ized versions of movie characters in it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 17 June, 2012, 07:19:15 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 07:06:24 PM
I'd hate to have the movie tarnished by a movie tie-in game.. They're always crap..

Hmm, I think that's partly, but not totally true.

Wolverine on the 360 was quite good.  Aliens on the PsOne was excellent. Aliens vs Predator 2 on the PC was brilliant.  Star Wars: XWing, Tie Fighter, Rogue Squadron and Jedi Knight 2 were all top notch. 

I'm sure I could think of more if I could be bothered.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 07:22:48 PM
I'll give you that.. However those were mostly games that weren't released to coincide with the release of the film. AvP 2 is awesome. I still to this day have to finish it in the marine mode, and I've (mis)spent many a day indoors playing x-wing that I really should've used sharpening my chat-up lines..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 17 June, 2012, 07:27:33 PM
Also seeing as Rebellion are actually game developers as well they might put a bit more care into it. I think a first person dredd would be fantastic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: klute on 17 June, 2012, 07:28:28 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 07:17:01 PM
I suppose.. However I'd rather take it the route of the comics instead of the movie.. Maybe have comic-ized versions of movie characters in it.

In fairness i would aim the mmo towards the comics as oppose to the film atleast that what i have thought many times over the years.With the film you would be limited to fewer characters.

With the comic version mmo you have your pick of a BIG back catalogue.

I suspect the flaw in my plan to play such a game is that iwould such a game get a budget big enough to get it off the ground and make it work and be a continued success, even if budget wasn;t an option are there enough people out there who would be willing to buy into a game knowing nothing about it?

I'd love to see warcraft type numbers for the mmo...................................i can dream!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 17 June, 2012, 07:33:33 PM
Quote from: Waltev on 17 June, 2012, 06:36:39 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 17 June, 2012, 12:18:01 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 17 June, 2012, 11:48:42 AM
Well one other person has declared on Facebook that he has tickets, and judging by the Sabbath references I'd guess the guy is Blackmocco. So which one of us is really 'The Thing'? I want a sample from all of you!

That's exactly what he'd say ... This is the kind of moronic questionnaire Blackmocco will be asked to fill out before leaving the theatre. CLICK (http://johnaugust.com/downloads_ripley/nines_questions.pdf)

That questionnaire is just fucking STUPID.

I've been a movie enthusiast for all of my life, I certainly know what I like and dislike - but as many of my fellow citizens, I didn't study literary drama in the university, so I have no drokking idea whatsoever how to even differentiate between first / second / third act...

The rest of the questionnaire is just as bonkers. Without a frame of reference (rightly pointed out by B. Kill) or any knowledge of your study group (except that he/she is Joe/Jane Doe), collecting answers like that is just going to give you a data set that'll lead to unpredictable knee-jerk reactions, if even that ...

Which is why we have to properly instruct our own Blackmocco and facebook's enigmatic Mark 'five tickets' Young on how to complete their consumer survey cards in the lobby of the Burbank Odeon.

I propose they and the group of friends they take along to the screening pretend to represent the complete range of stereotypes that the marketing industry expects humans to conform to: 18 year old beer-drinking housewifes, middle-aged car-owning students, latina CEO's of fortune 500 companies. They should all rate the most violent scenes as their favourite parts of the film, and the 'women' should all explicitly state that the rumoured gamahuche scene was a massive turn on.

If we can make 'Jedi' one of the best-subscribed faiths in the UK census, convincing US theatre chain owners they have an across the boards success on their hands should be a doddle. The 200-odd complacent and disinterested cow people who blow in off the street to see Dredd's first public screening will have a direct influence on how many theatres and on how many screens this film opens; Blackmocco can stack the deck in our favour by inviting a few of his nerdiest friends along for the evening.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 17 June, 2012, 07:39:21 PM
I wish I was seeing this film on Wednesday. Or just the trailer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 17 June, 2012, 07:39:53 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 17 June, 2012, 07:27:33 PM
Also seeing as Rebellion are actually game developers as well they might put a bit more care into it. I think a first person dredd would be fantastic.

Deux Ex Machina is a First person RPG. Perhaps that's the development route Rebellion should go?

Instead of 'kill everything!' Judge Dredd style you could have a more softly approach. Well relatively speaking of course. Mega City 1 would be a good background for an RPG Shooter surely? I was always a fan of the STALKER game series and would love to play something similar involving the big, bad Meg.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 07:41:59 PM
A more softly approach? Dredd?

Like the Deus Ex idea though..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 June, 2012, 07:44:40 PM
How about style of Batman Arkham City?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 07:48:49 PM
Oooh, I like that..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 17 June, 2012, 07:49:33 PM
3rd person? Sort of Mass Effect maybe with Judge Allies? Hmmmm. Might work trouble is trying to shoot third person can be a little difficult as I found out playing Resident Evil 5
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 June, 2012, 07:50:47 PM
Batman Arkham City could be brilliant idea!

Congratulation everyone, we got to 300 pages now!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 07:52:18 PM
This is the law!

..never did like 300.. Beardy shouty men in leather thongs don't float my biscuit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 08:13:05 PM
..I apologize for that awful pun...  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 17 June, 2012, 08:27:26 PM
Quote from: Goaty
Batman Arkham City could be brilliant idea!

I'm pretty sure this game already exists.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 17 June, 2012, 09:06:58 PM
The thing about wanting Rebellion to make a Deus Ex or Batman Arkham City style Dredd game is a nice idea. But as best I can tell, Rebellion doesn't seem to make A-List level games like that. They are most squarely in the B-List category. and I'm almost afraid that the strain of attempting to shift toward a long development cycle A-List game developer would put to much financial strain on Rebellion to really be a good thing.

And that's the trouble, Dredd needs an A-List game to really shine. He can't keep getting Dredd Vs Death quality games if he's going to be taken seriously as a Video Game franchise. Or even Rogue Trooper quality games.

Its a conundrum.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 09:27:00 PM
Why the hell am I arguing with him?  :-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 June, 2012, 09:27:46 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 09:27:00 PM
Why the hell am I arguing with him?  :-\

Don't Feeding The Troll
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 17 June, 2012, 09:29:37 PM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 17 June, 2012, 09:06:58 PM
They are most squarely in the B-List category.

Gee, thanks. So at least two worldwide number one games in the last two years don't count?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 09:32:18 PM
Just had a look-see at the list of games Rebellion developed, and there's quite a few of my all time favourites in there..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 17 June, 2012, 09:37:03 PM
I don't know, what I saw of the judges I think would really suit the graphics they have used for their last games. AvP, Neverdead, and Sniper Elite.

I think it would be good, they nailed the Marine campaign in Aliens vs. Predator, convert that into Dredd and have a cool story? Bam!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 17 June, 2012, 09:48:47 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 17 June, 2012, 09:29:37 PM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 17 June, 2012, 09:06:58 PM
They are most squarely in the B-List category.

Gee, thanks. So at least two worldwide number one games in the last two years don't count?

Sorry, bit of a dick there. But when I think of Aliens vs Predator and Sniper Elite V2 (which I assume are the two games you're talking about), I don't put them in the same category of game as Batman or Deus Ex. They simply seem like smaller scale games, with smaller sale expectations then your Mass Effect 3s and the like. Not to mention shorter development cycles, smaller budgets, etc....

I mean, I might be wrong, but I've yet to see a Rebellion game in the league of say... God of War III. Which is where a Dredd game needs to be in terms of exposure and technical fidelity.

No offense. I have nothing but respect for Video Game developers of all sorts (I wanted to be a game programer once upon a time). But I just don't see Rebellion releasing games like Rock Star, Bethesda, or Eidos Montreal do.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 17 June, 2012, 09:50:07 PM
Jesus Christ. I was being facetious.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 17 June, 2012, 09:52:57 PM
This thread makes my head hurt. Just scanned the last 25 pages for catch up. Not muched has changed then, just a few new behind the scenes piccys (which were great by the way) and some lucky bastards to go to a preview.
So if like me you have been off T'internet for the past three days that is all you need to know.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 17 June, 2012, 09:56:30 PM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 17 June, 2012, 09:50:07 PM
Jesus Christ. I was being facetious.

Most of The Book of Genesis should be read in a sarcastic tone of voice. Look on Roger's work, ye mighty, and despair.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 10:03:23 PM
..he deleted his account. My final blow of bacon jam ( http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eat-17-Relish-Bacon-Pack/dp/B007AC3WY2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339965816&sr=8-1 ) was clearly too much :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 17 June, 2012, 10:10:41 PM
Rebellion have already confirmed that there won't be a Dredd tie-in game for the film.

As for a AAA FPS or MMO - with the best will in the world, those games cost so much money to develop and are so high-risk, Dredd isn't nearly a big enough draw to warrant it.

I think the best bet for future 2000ad games will be smaller scale - XBLA/PSN or iOS/Android, like Dredd vs Zombies.

There's a Dredd game coming soon for iOS, that game book one, but it's nothing to do with the movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 17 June, 2012, 10:13:21 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 10:03:23 PM
..he deleted his account. My final blow of bacon jam ( http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eat-17-Relish-Bacon-Pack/dp/B007AC3WY2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339965816&sr=8-1 ) was clearly too much :D

Good work! :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 10:22:39 PM
And who said bacon's bad for you?

Does anyone remember that Blade Runner game? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_(1997_video_game)

How would a format like that work for a Dredd game?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 17 June, 2012, 10:24:47 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 10:22:39 PM
And who said bacon's bad for you?

Does anyone remember that Blade Runner game? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_(1997_video_game)

How would a format like that work for a Dredd game?

A Judge Dredd adventure game? As awesome as that sounds (to me) I don't think its the Dredd game most people want.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 10:30:22 PM
It'd be a bit of a waste to create a first/third person shooter in the rich Dredd world. You'd rush through 20-odd levels too quickly, and end up missing the point. A red dead redemption style affaire would suit it nicely.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 17 June, 2012, 10:38:54 PM
Whoever you are eagle eyed typo spotter, rejoice - I pointed it out to them & now you have made a tiny nano sized contribution to the success of DREDD...'eexecutioner' is now 'executioner' in the synopsis section of the Dredd website.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 17 June, 2012, 10:58:44 PM
How about something using the GTA model?Main story,room for lots of characters and lots of side missions?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 11:03:26 PM
Red Dredd redemption..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 17 June, 2012, 11:04:10 PM
I literally have no idea what anyone is talking about now. MMOs? Side missions? GTA? I feel so old- cant we have dredd movie pong, with a picture of dredd's head on one side, ma-ma on the other, batting a little ball back and forth? Or mega-city frogger? Cursed earth dig dug?

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 17 June, 2012, 11:13:41 PM
Anyone fancy a pint? :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 11:14:24 PM
I could murder one right now..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 17 June, 2012, 11:15:10 PM
Was there an incursion I missed or something? The last few pages of comments appear a bit disjointed. On the off topic on topic, if there was a Dredd game 1/2 as good as Red Dead I'd be a happy man indeed. One of the best games in a long time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JUDGE BURNS on 17 June, 2012, 11:16:12 PM
I'm having an ice cold Magners right now , which the kids gave me for fathers day.... :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 17 June, 2012, 11:31:30 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2012, 03:43:28 PM
It was Finley-Day who typed scrotnig -in a script for "Invasion"- that was a mangled version of escorting.

There were hookers in "Invasion"?  :-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 17 June, 2012, 11:35:34 PM
The Facebook page is looking a lot more sane at the moment. Good work!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 17 June, 2012, 11:39:56 PM
QuoteThe Facebook page is looking a lot more sane at the moment. Good work!

And a lot quieter, you can say one thing for him, he sure knows how to get the comments rolling in. I'm just having a read of his script now, droids man! What kind of budget did he think they would have???
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2012, 11:42:36 PM
There once was a Dredd comic, it's now a film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 17 June, 2012, 11:43:48 PM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 17 June, 2012, 10:24:47 PM
A Judge Dredd adventure game? As awesome as that sounds (to me) I don't think its the Dredd game most people want.

Hey fellas, the Tinman Games Dredd choose-your-own adventure style game is coming soon. I've had a sneaky Beta test and (Pete looks about shiftily, cos he doesn't know if he's supposed to say owt) it's really, really good! Very well written, I must say...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 17 June, 2012, 11:52:15 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2012, 11:42:36 PM
There once was a Dredd comic, it's now a film.

Sounds a wee bit like 'Down in the bakery, brown Dredd...'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 June, 2012, 11:52:46 PM
Ditto to Pete  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stella Dave on 17 June, 2012, 11:56:19 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 17 June, 2012, 11:43:48 PM
Hey fellas, the Tinman Games Dredd choose-your-own adventure style game is coming soon. I've had a sneaky Beta test and (Pete looks about shiftily, cos he doesn't know if he's supposed to say owt) it's really, really good! Very well written, I must say...
Think yer safe!
http://tinmangames.com.au/blog/?p=2223 (http://tinmangames.com.au/blog/?p=2223)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 18 June, 2012, 07:34:58 AM
I made a polite suggestion a while ago about not turning this into a thread about Scojo. Maybe you missed it..?
And if everyone wants to go around in the same circles about non-existent games, there's more than one thread for that already.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 18 June, 2012, 07:42:26 AM
Just passing the time..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 18 June, 2012, 08:11:54 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 18 June, 2012, 07:34:58 AM
I made a polite suggestion a while ago about not turning this into a thread about Scojo. Maybe you missed it..?
And if everyone wants to go around in the same circles about non-existent games, there's more than one thread for that already.

Uh oh, the Mod's not happy, hide the kiddies...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 18 June, 2012, 08:23:50 AM
Not wanting to add to the noise, but I'll repeat my suggestion of a blanket policy of deleting any and all posts about him, including this one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 18 June, 2012, 10:17:03 AM
Quote from: Richmond  :DClements on 18 June, 2012, 07:34:58 AM
I made a polite suggestion a while ago about not turning this into a thread about Scojo. Maybe you missed it..?
And if everyone wants to go around in the same circles about non-existent games, there's more than one thread for that already.

Whoops, sorry about my part in the whole games debate. Heard and understood!

Back on topic then, is there some online app where you can create a countdown of weeks, days and hours until Judgment arrives?  I think we should be aware of every agonising second, thus heightening our anticipation beyond fever pitch, and possibly causing a few heads to explode. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 June, 2012, 10:41:19 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 18 June, 2012, 10:17:03 AM
Back on topic then, is there some online app where you can create a countdown of weeks, days and hours until Judgment arrives?  I think we should be aware of every agonising second, thus heightening our anticipation beyond fever pitch, and possibly causing a few heads to explode. 

What? Sort of Countdown to Day of Chaos, as when 2 days left will be few months?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 June, 2012, 11:41:33 AM
The Official Dredd Movie website now got Gallery page, but it not ready yet....?

http://www.dreddthemovie.com/#/gallery (http://www.dreddthemovie.com/#/gallery)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 June, 2012, 11:45:31 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 18 June, 2012, 11:41:33 AM
The Official Dredd Movie website now got Gallery page, but it not ready yet....?

http://www.dreddthemovie.com/#/gallery (http://www.dreddthemovie.com/#/gallery)

It's work now, just two pictures we see before.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 June, 2012, 11:55:16 AM
Vaguely relevant since we just had a bunch of set shots

http://fuckyeahfilmsets.tumblr.com/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 18 June, 2012, 12:06:59 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 18 June, 2012, 11:55:16 AM
Vaguely relevant since we just had a bunch of set shots

http://fuckyeahfilmsets.tumblr.com/
That Star Wars film looks like it's going to be terrible.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 18 June, 2012, 12:19:26 PM
The one of Kenny Baker eating a sandwich as a power droid looks on is a nice shot, not seen it before.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 June, 2012, 12:22:36 PM
I dont know why Chewie's costume to his feet if they not filming it!

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3kbkwpp4e1qzciuao1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 June, 2012, 12:28:29 PM
Easier to leave him in it.

Or those are Peter Mayhew's feet.


Anyway goes to show about judging films by set pics, although the best pic is  the cardboard ark being used to cast a shadow from raiders.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 18 June, 2012, 02:01:53 PM
(http://www.benbernankesdiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/tumbleweed.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 18 June, 2012, 02:07:58 PM
I didn't realise Teletubbies were so big. It kinda makes the whole thing a little more disturbing.

And that Chucky shot has ruined my childhood.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 18 June, 2012, 04:09:14 PM
That guy in the headphones has the lamest supporting artist outfit. They ain't even trying.  :|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: brendan1 on 18 June, 2012, 04:34:09 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 June, 2012, 07:06:24 PM
I'd hate to have the movie tarnished by a movie tie-in game.. They're always crap..

Indeed.

However, it does seem a bit of a shame that a major cinematic release of the biggest character in Rebellion's comic portfolio - Rebellion being a company that specialises in making video games - haven't made one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 18 June, 2012, 04:35:44 PM
Support artist being the politically correct term for 'extra'..

We refer to them as 'self mobile props or set dressing that eats'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: brendan1 on 18 June, 2012, 04:38:18 PM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 17 June, 2012, 09:48:47 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 17 June, 2012, 09:29:37 PM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 17 June, 2012, 09:06:58 PM
They are most squarely in the B-List category.

Gee, thanks. So at least two worldwide number one games in the last two years don't count?

Sorry, bit of a dick there. But when I think of Aliens vs Predator and Sniper Elite V2 (which I assume are the two games you're talking about), I don't put them in the same category of game as Batman or Deus Ex. They simply seem like smaller scale games, with smaller sale expectations then your Mass Effect 3s and the like. Not to mention shorter development cycles, smaller budgets, etc....

I mean, I might be wrong, but I've yet to see a Rebellion game in the league of say... God of War III. Which is where a Dredd game needs to be in terms of exposure and technical fidelity.

No offense. I have nothing but respect for Video Game developers of all sorts (I wanted to be a game programer once upon a time). But I just don't see Rebellion releasing games like Rock Star, Bethesda, or Eidos Montreal do.

Batman wasn't expected to be as good, or sell as well, as it did, being developed by a new studio (Rocksteady). It can be done.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 18 June, 2012, 04:48:00 PM
Quote from: brendan1 on 18 June, 2012, 04:34:09 PM
However, it does seem a bit of a shame that a major cinematic release of the biggest character in Rebellion's comic portfolio - Rebellion being a company that specialises in making video games - haven't made one.

I'll say this for the last time - we were already contracted to make two AAA console titles when the movie was greenlit, so just didn't have the capacity. Please can we stop with Rebellion bashing on this thread?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 June, 2012, 04:48:59 PM
Quote from: brendan1 on 18 June, 2012, 04:34:09 PM
However, it does seem a bit of a shame that a major cinematic release of the biggest character in Rebellion's comic portfolio - Rebellion being a company that specialises in making video games - haven't made one.


Don't really see the relevance or why these releases should be simultaneous. Rebellion all ready made a Dredd game, I'm sure they'll eventually make another but it's not imperative or that they should release one now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: brendan1 on 18 June, 2012, 04:56:05 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 18 June, 2012, 04:48:00 PM
Quote from: brendan1 on 18 June, 2012, 04:34:09 PM
However, it does seem a bit of a shame that a major cinematic release of the biggest character in Rebellion's comic portfolio - Rebellion being a company that specialises in making video games - haven't made one.

I'll say this for the last time - we were already contracted to make two AAA console titles when the movie was greenlit, so just didn't have the capacity. Please can we stop with Rebellion bashing on this thread?

I'm not bashing Rebellion. Best thing to ever happen to the comic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 18 June, 2012, 05:04:06 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 18 June, 2012, 04:48:00 PM
Quote from: brendan1 on 18 June, 2012, 04:34:09 PM
However, it does seem a bit of a shame that a major cinematic release of the biggest character in Rebellion's comic portfolio - Rebellion being a company that specialises in making video games - haven't made one.

I'll say this for the last time - we were already contracted to make two AAA console titles when the movie was greenlit, so just didn't have the capacity. Please can we stop with Rebellion bashing on this thread?

Any future plans to make a Stontium Dog video game -even a distant plan?Always hoped they would make one-or any other plans for vidoe games for 2000ad characters?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 18 June, 2012, 05:14:31 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 18 June, 2012, 05:04:06 PM
Any future plans to make a Stontium Dog video game -even a distant plan?Always hoped they would make one-or any other plans for vidoe games for 2000ad characters?

Nope, sorry.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 18 June, 2012, 05:29:26 PM
How much would it cost to fund a decent AAA title? You know...just in case I were to win the Euromillions some day...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: brendan1 on 18 June, 2012, 05:36:04 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 18 June, 2012, 05:29:26 PM
How much would it cost to fund a decent AAA title? You know...just in case I were to win the Euromillions some day...

It's a pretty wooly, meaningless buzzword that really just implies "big budget" and/or "high profile" (both usually go hand in hand), and doesn't have a real definition

Heavily marketed, huge dev teams, x-platform, eagerly awaited, (hopefully) large-selling. Usually £15m plus budgets, up to god knows what.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 18 June, 2012, 05:38:41 PM
Say I've just won the jackpot when it was £160 million - then that's the first thing I would do! Christ , there'd be enough for even more  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 18 June, 2012, 05:51:32 PM
If I won £160 mil I'd make sure we got a sequel ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 18 June, 2012, 06:24:26 PM
I'll do the Slaine film then.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 18 June, 2012, 06:39:59 PM
I'll do Robo Hunter, with Bruce 'The Chin' Campbell in the titular role... And Rob Schneider as Stogie
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rex Banner on 18 June, 2012, 06:41:37 PM
From Twitter - @lionsgatemovies Prepare for judgment, #Dredd fans! @Machinima_com will premiere the 1st official trailer this Thursday. You excited?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 18 June, 2012, 06:42:22 PM
SWEET!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 18 June, 2012, 06:43:36 PM
TRAILER THIS THURSDAY!

The wait is (somewhat) over...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 18 June, 2012, 06:43:53 PM
Excited? By God, yes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 18 June, 2012, 06:45:19 PM
No more WHERE IS THE TRAILER posts hoorayyy

I'm guessing it'll be attached to   Abe Lincoln: Vampire Slayer?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 18 June, 2012, 06:49:30 PM
 :o just wet me Sen with excitement.  Prepare foe forum meltdown on Thursday!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 18 June, 2012, 06:53:40 PM
Thursday? But I want it NOW.


:P
Good news hurrah! And possibly blackmocco's review on Wednesday. I'm more excited than when I saw Heidi Klum in leather.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 18 June, 2012, 06:54:08 PM
YAHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 18 June, 2012, 06:55:22 PM
Ha! Just a day after Blackmocco sees the preview. I bet he's feeling stupid now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 18 June, 2012, 06:56:24 PM
I just hope they put it on youtube or a place without ID Region Code ;____;
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 18 June, 2012, 06:59:00 PM
I'm sure within a minute of it debuting , it'll be on every applicable site on the web.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 18 June, 2012, 07:09:52 PM
Thank grud for smart phones,gonna be checkiing the thing every five minutes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 18 June, 2012, 07:10:46 PM
I predict this thread will surpass the #400 count by the weekend  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 18 June, 2012, 07:13:51 PM
If it doesn't eat itself first.. But you might be right..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 18 June, 2012, 07:20:32 PM
Hopefully on Thursday , my Facebook wall will be full of links to the trailer that will far outweigh the 'all men are useless' pictures that my wall is full of usually >:(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 18 June, 2012, 07:30:42 PM
YES! SICKIE THURSDAY... I meant Trailer Thursday of course.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 18 June, 2012, 07:52:59 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 18 June, 2012, 07:13:51 PM
If it doesn't eat itself first.. But you might be right..

It's eaten itself so many times now we could call it The Thread Centipede  ;)

Also, WOOHOO!
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Martin Jameson on 18 June, 2012, 08:06:14 PM
I wonder how many of us are going to resist watching that trailer this Thursday? Itchy mouse fingers to the ready.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 18 June, 2012, 08:12:01 PM
Are you mad? I'm going to be refreshing the site so often it'll send people into epileptic fits..
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Martin Jameson on 18 June, 2012, 08:13:47 PM
Me too! No one could be that disciplined.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 18 June, 2012, 08:17:49 PM
I've already formed an orderly queue in front of my laptop. :lol:

Excellent news, at last.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 18 June, 2012, 08:19:38 PM
A trailer is not needed or wanted...

Its way too early for that sort of thing.  :cool:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 June, 2012, 08:23:26 PM
It's times like these when I love having a projector...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 18 June, 2012, 08:30:18 PM
Ooh, will there be a 3Dversion?  I could run it on nVidia 3DVision on my PC!  That would be seriously cool.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 June, 2012, 08:33:53 PM
I don't think so - or at least online 3D trailers don't seem to be pushed by the studios as far as I can see.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 June, 2012, 08:53:27 PM
Did I miss anything?

What? There a trailer out this Thursday, why no-one tells me!

funny as you knew I post trailers on the forum, I gotta to says Dredd film company are doing it good, even plans the trailer début on Thursday, no leaking etc! amazing!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mejustnow on 18 June, 2012, 10:05:43 PM
Wait, there's a Dredd movie coming out?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 18 June, 2012, 10:06:29 PM
Quote from: mejustnow on 18 June, 2012, 10:05:43 PM
Wait, there's a Dredd movie coming out?
Wrong thread.





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: watto911 on 18 June, 2012, 10:20:19 PM
A couple of set pics I think are new http://www.slashfilm.com/dredd-set-photos/dredd-set-shot/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: watto911 on 18 June, 2012, 10:32:16 PM
Sorry those pics  not new. Just saw  them mentioned on another thread. Apologies.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darren1973 on 18 June, 2012, 11:29:33 PM
Dredd trailer blog piece plus collection of the images here

http://darrens-world-of-entertainment.blogspot.co.nz/2012/06/dredd-trailer-coming-this-friday.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 June, 2012, 11:44:15 PM
Quote from: darren1973 on 18 June, 2012, 11:29:33 PM
Dredd trailer blog piece plus collection of the images here

http://darrens-world-of-entertainment.blogspot.co.nz/2012/06/dredd-trailer-coming-this-friday.html

It's link to your website with old information!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 18 June, 2012, 11:46:14 PM
That's Thursday fucked for me in terms of getting project work done.
  :D
It's "DREDD TRAILER THURSDAY" I christen the day. That sucker is getting linked to FB, encourage everyone to do that and spread the word via your wall to your friends.
Some of the non-Dredd friends have been impressed by the poster and look, so lets hope this blows everyone away!
:cool:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 18 June, 2012, 11:50:08 PM
Dare I say the release of the trailer is practically as big an event as the actual movie..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 18 June, 2012, 11:51:47 PM
Where has it actually been officially confirmed that Dredd opens Sep 7th in the UK? I've only seen that date in posts and comments - anything official says Sep 21st.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 18 June, 2012, 11:52:50 PM
Fantastic news about the trailer! First time I've been this excited about a trailer since - well, ever.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 18 June, 2012, 11:55:35 PM
Quote from: radiator on 18 June, 2012, 11:51:47 PM
Where has it actually been officially confirmed that Dredd opens Sep 7th in the UK? I've only seen that date in posts and comments - anything official says Sep 21st.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 June, 2012, 12:11:33 AM
This thread will reach the 400 mark in about a week at this rate! Thursday trailer time looooooooong overdue but I wonder just how many times on average we will watch it til the film comes out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 19 June, 2012, 12:13:59 AM
I'm excited but nervous..say if it's rubbish?

I don't think I could take the disappointment
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 19 June, 2012, 12:50:39 AM
My rep is on the line if it goes bad, will never hear the end of it from the friends.
Can't be disappointed twice in a week, Ireland's dismal display in the Euro's is punishment enough.
:( Today is only Tuesday.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 19 June, 2012, 01:03:08 AM
Anyone know what time it'll debut Thurdsay?

We've got three days to argue about whether it'd be better to launch it at 9pm, 12pm or 2pm. I say 12pm so people can talk about it on their breaks from work.**






**Sarcasm/bullshittery comes across well on the internet, yes?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 19 June, 2012, 02:48:34 AM
Short of any unforeseen happenstance, this Thursday is going to be SWEET... told y'all it was imminent (if by imminent I meant three whole months ::))...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 June, 2012, 06:42:40 AM
Good news. I think I'll have an extra large glass of the red stuff Thursday.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 19 June, 2012, 08:41:36 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 19 June, 2012, 01:03:08 AM
Anyone know what time it'll debut Thurdsay?

We've got three days to argue about whether it'd be better to launch it at 9pm, 12pm or 2pm. I say 12pm so people can talk about it on their breaks from work.**






**Sarcasm/bullshittery comes across well on the internet, yes?

As I said it will most likely be Thursday morning US time, meaning around thursday 6pm here...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 19 June, 2012, 08:43:12 AM
Quote from: bikini kill on 18 June, 2012, 11:55:35 PM
Quote from: radiator on 18 June, 2012, 11:51:47 PM
Where has it actually been officially confirmed that Dredd opens Sep 7th in the UK? I've only seen that date in posts and comments - anything official says Sep 21st.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/)

That's IMDB - which is often in accurate, where is the OFFICIAL announcement/confirmation?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 08:52:06 AM
Quote from: radiator on 19 June, 2012, 08:43:12 AM
That's IMDB - which is often in accurate, where is the OFFICIAL announcement/confirmation?


It's official:


http://www.entertainmentfilms.co.uk/theatrical/dredd
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 19 June, 2012, 08:53:59 AM
Cool, I was thinking that the release date of the 7th was a bit of misinformation that had become 'fact'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 19 June, 2012, 09:59:54 AM
Going back to the likelihood of a sequel...

Kick Ass had around the same budget as Dredd, an R/15 rating, and had the same US distributor, Lionsgate.

According to Box Office Mojo, it made $96m at the global box office with a 50/50 split between it's US and international take (regarded as disappointing at the time). And despite this, Kick Ass got a sequel, due to start filming this autumn. I think this is mainly due to strong DVD sales.

If Dredd can emulate Kick Ass (which seems possible) there seems a very real possibility of a Dredd 2, though I can't imagine they're upping the budget for KA2, if anything they're probably reducing it...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 June, 2012, 10:48:18 AM
Well how you will rating the trailer fort this Thursday?

Awesome?

Really Awesome?

Very Awesome?

Drokking Awesome?

If trailer will be dark, or Dredd shot someone without mercy, that is good eye-opening! Hope they dont fade in the Dredd title, just cut in with big bold DREDD in screen?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 19 June, 2012, 10:52:34 AM
The DREDD Movie is rated 'R' for restricted.

Will the Trailer be 'R' rated too like one of the The Raid  Trailers?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 11:00:10 AM
I see they've replaced the EECUTIONER spelling mistake on the SYNOPSIS with another misspelling : EXCUTIONER.

Nice.




http://www.dreddthemovie.com/#/synopsis
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 19 June, 2012, 11:10:41 AM
QuoteWell how you will rating the trailer fort this Thursday?

Awesome?

Really Awesome?

Very Awesome?

Drokking Awesome?

I'll try to call it as I see it. It could be great - it could also be underwhelming. Try not to get carried away.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 June, 2012, 11:24:30 AM
Quote from: radiator on 19 June, 2012, 11:10:41 AM
I'll try to call it as I see it. It could be great - it could also be underwhelming. Try not to get carried away.

I know, I am happy with the castings, photos and the poster so far, think it will be great. Just cant wait :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 19 June, 2012, 11:27:58 AM
Quote from: radiator on 19 June, 2012, 11:10:41 AM
I'll try to call it as I see it. It could be great - it could also be underwhelming. Try not to get carried away.
Even then; remember that a less-than-impressive trailer does not a less-than-impressive actual film make.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 June, 2012, 12:20:10 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 11:00:10 AM
I see they've replaced the EECUTIONER spelling mistake on the SYNOPSIS with another misspelling : EXCUTIONER.

Nice.

http://www.dreddthemovie.com/#/synopsis

No way....groan.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stella Dave on 19 June, 2012, 12:42:01 PM
Tees, I've seen worse...
http://www.redbubble.com/people/daratgh/works/8961524-the-law-retro-dredd?country_code=GB&p=t-shirt&utm_campaign=shopping&utm_medium=google_products&utm_source=google
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 June, 2012, 12:43:30 PM
Quote from: Stella Dave on 19 June, 2012, 12:42:01 PM
Tees, I've seen worse...
http://www.redbubble.com/people/daratgh/works/8961524-the-law-retro-dredd?country_code=GB&p=t-shirt&utm_campaign=shopping&utm_medium=google_products&utm_source=google

Well that looks not bad... maybe black background? dont know why it on Japanese blue sun ray?

(http://ih1.redbubble.net/image.12054066.1524/fig,navy,mens,ffffff.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stella Dave on 19 June, 2012, 12:45:22 PM
He has a few not bad designs, others not so good
http://www.redbubble.com/people/daratgh/collections/142793-justice-and-law
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 19 June, 2012, 12:47:07 PM
Can't Flippin' wait for the trailer. Anybody else piecing together their own fan-tasy version of the trailer in their heads! Mine is a trailer intro revealing some of the Meg followed by a snippet of DREDD and Anderson taking out some perps with rapid fire in slow mo! The sound track would be the instrumental version of  Letter to NYC by the Beastie Boys!

Oh!  to dream! :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 19 June, 2012, 12:50:31 PM
Quote from: Stella Dave on 19 June, 2012, 12:45:22 PM
He has a few not bad designs, others not so good
http://www.redbubble.com/people/daratgh/collections/142793-justice-and-law

Those are crap, not to mention a massive breach of copyright.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 19 June, 2012, 12:56:12 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 19 June, 2012, 12:20:10 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 11:00:10 AM
I see they've replaced the EECUTIONER spelling mistake on the SYNOPSIS with another misspelling : EXCUTIONER.

Nice.

http://www.dreddthemovie.com/#/synopsis

No way....groan.

Who the hell wrote that synopsis? It's bloody awful! Aside from the gruesome right alignment it's just a jumble of poorly stuck together crap.

"During a routine day on the job, Dredd is assigned to train"

Fucking hell. I assume no one here is responsible for that disaster. Student placement given the job?

The mis-spelling of judgement (I know it's the yank spelling but when we have Judgement Day and Judgement in Gotham...) pales in comparison.

OMG, one link takes you to a random blog then you have to "click to reenter site"? Seriously, you can't have the official poster on the official site rather than a link to some numpty's blog with an oh-so-hilarious pun in the name?

0/10
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stella Dave on 19 June, 2012, 12:56:54 PM
opinions are like arseholes...

I wasn't advertising them, I know full well they are not official and would never buy one. It actually gets on my wick this.
Have you seen how many '2000ad' tees there are on there?! :o Bl00dy awful too
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stella Dave on 19 June, 2012, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: Mudcrab on 19 June, 2012, 12:56:12 PM
The mis-spelling of judgement (I know it's the yank spelling but when we have Judgement Day and Judgement in Gotham...) pales in comparison.

It is correct spelling for this context anywhere, I made the same assumption. See Wiki
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 June, 2012, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: Mudcrab on 19 June, 2012, 12:56:12 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 19 June, 2012, 12:20:10 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 11:00:10 AM
I see they've replaced the EECUTIONER spelling mistake on the SYNOPSIS with another misspelling : EXCUTIONER.

Nice.

http://www.dreddthemovie.com/#/synopsis
No way....groan.
OMG, one link takes you to a random blog then you have to "click to reenter site"? Seriously, you can't have the official poster on the official site rather than a link to some numpty's blog with an oh-so-hilarious pun in the name?
0/10

I saw that, bizarre. I'm sure I clicked that last week and went straight to the poster on-site...maybe they've been changing things and balls'd up the better version they were running last week...gallery vanished briefly.
Bloody Nora.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 June, 2012, 01:03:45 PM
I dreamt it was Thursday. What a disappointment to wake up and find it is only Tuesday.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 19 June, 2012, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 June, 2012, 01:03:45 PM
I dreamt it was Thursday. What a disappointment to wake up and find it is only Tuesday.
ahhh!
That just reminded me of last night's dream. I had tickets to see a preview of Dredd and to see Van Halen ON THE SAME DAY! Woke up before seeing either though...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 19 June, 2012, 01:28:10 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 19 June, 2012, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 June, 2012, 01:03:45 PM
I dreamt it was Thursday. What a disappointment to wake up and find it is only Tuesday.
ahhh!
That just reminded me of last night's dream. I had tickets to see a preview of Dredd and to see Van Halen ON THE SAME DAY! Woke up before seeing either though...

Possibly a good subconscious comparison though.

Stallone in Judge Dredd Van Halen music video.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 19 June, 2012, 01:45:49 PM
Quote from: George Dread on 19 June, 2012, 01:28:10 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 19 June, 2012, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 June, 2012, 01:03:45 PM
I dreamt it was Thursday. What a disappointment to wake up and find it is only Tuesday.
ahhh!
That just reminded me of last night's dream. I had tickets to see a preview of Dredd and to see Van Halen ON THE SAME DAY! Woke up before seeing either though...

Possibly a good subconscious comparison though.

Stallone in Judge Dredd Van Halen music video.
without the self awareness and humour.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 19 June, 2012, 01:59:48 PM
Last night I dreamed that it was Thursday and instead of putting the trailer online, they'd accidentally put out the first half hour of the film.

Here's what happens - Dredd apparently has a secret identity in the film, Karl Urban appears wearing his civilian clothes (German army helmet, dark blue t shirt over grey long sleeve shirt) and immediately sets about a bald thug. He theatrically punches said thug in slow motion several times before pile-driving his shiny bald head into a brick wall.

He then proceeds to run alongside the wall, destroying it with the bald thugs head. The thug collapses and Karl falls to his knees and delivers and advert, to camera, for a restaurant in Leeds, as a Hov Wagon (Yay! Flying vehicles!) lands behind him to pick up the 'perp'.

Cut to the Grand Hall of Justice! Now in full Judge regalia (but with a MASSIVE golden eagle covering his entire chest), Karl strides down the corridor towards the camera where it becomes apparent that his Judge helmet does not cover his eyes.

At this point, the film people realise their mistake and pull the footage from the internet!!!

Then it was Christmas night and snowing outside and my brother and I went outside for a snowball fight.

So, what do you think of that? True to the source material?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 19 June, 2012, 02:02:17 PM
*sniff* s'beautiful.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 19 June, 2012, 02:03:49 PM
Haven't got the hang of the spoiler tags yet, Lee? Tut tut.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 19 June, 2012, 02:11:12 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 19 June, 2012, 01:59:48 PM
So, what do you think of that? True to the source material?

True to the comics.  The Marshal Law comics.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 02:15:12 PM
Quote from: Mudcrab on 19 June, 2012, 12:56:12 PM
The mis-spelling of judgement (I know it's the yank spelling but when we have Judgement Day and Judgement in Gotham...) pales in comparison.


No need to go overboard. It's not a Yank spelling of Judgement. Both spellings are valid and both have different meanings in and out of court.


A judgment, in a legal context, is synonymous with the formal decision made by a court following a lawsuit.

The spelling judgement (with e added) is common in the United Kingdom in a non-legal context.


By that definition Judgment is more apt in the context of Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 19 June, 2012, 02:21:15 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 02:15:12 PM
Quote from: Mudcrab on 19 June, 2012, 12:56:12 PM
The mis-spelling of judgement (I know it's the yank spelling but when we have Judgement Day and Judgement in Gotham...) pales in comparison.


No need to go overboard. It's not a Yank spelling of Judgement. Both spellings are valid and both have different meanings in and out of court.


A judgment, in a legal context, is synonymous with the formal decision made by a court following a lawsuit.

The spelling judgement (with e added) is common in the United Kingdom in a non-legal context.


By that definition Judgment is more apt in the context of Dredd.
Yes, but coming from the people who brought you 'eecutioner' and 'excutioner' one might be forgiven for wondering if they were ever aware of that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 02:23:41 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 19 June, 2012, 02:21:15 PM
Yes, but coming from the people who brought you 'eecutioner' and 'excutioner' one might be forgiven for wondering if they were ever aware of that.


That's why I pointed the 'mistakes' out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 19 June, 2012, 02:28:23 PM
So you get me point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 02:30:40 PM
Yep, though there's no need to criticise for mistakes not made. We're not out to crucify.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 19 June, 2012, 02:42:09 PM
We aren't?  Then what am I going to do with the hundredweight of B&Q's finest 6 inch nails that I bought specially for Trailer Thursday?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 June, 2012, 02:46:56 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 19 June, 2012, 02:42:09 PM
We aren't?  Then what am I going to do with the hundredweight of B&Q's finest 6 inch nails that I bought specially for Trailer Thursday?

Buy a Hilti Nail-gun?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 19 June, 2012, 02:48:53 PM
I honestly expect a less-than-impressive trailer, and this is why: marketing that's practically 'stealth'? , Zero hype? No pretty visuals? an excellent script that makes total sense... Ireckon what we're dealing with here is the 'anti-Prometheus' people.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 19 June, 2012, 02:51:31 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 19 June, 2012, 02:48:53 PM
I reckon what we're dealing with here is the 'anti-Prometheus' people.

Zeus...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 02:52:05 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 19 June, 2012, 02:42:09 PM
We aren't?  Then what am I going to do with the hundredweight of B&Q's finest 6 inch nails that I bought specially for Trailer Thursday?



Get rid of them before the guilt sets in.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 02:53:11 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 19 June, 2012, 02:51:31 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 19 June, 2012, 02:48:53 PM
I reckon what we're dealing with here is the 'anti-Prometheus' people.

Zeus...?


Eagles...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 June, 2012, 02:53:55 PM
to be honest, darnmarr, you are negative person on this thread!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 02:54:14 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 19 June, 2012, 02:48:53 PM
I honestly expect a less-than-impressive trailer,


Yes, that poster was rather unimpressive.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 June, 2012, 03:02:53 PM
I think it'll be just right...for the reasons I gave 50 odd pages back...and I can't bloody-well wait. (despite my attempt at nonchalance in those same posts). And...even if it were a balls up, bravo to them for trying.

Nobody on the outside can fathom the trouble and hurdles of film production, I take my hat off to many a bad film or performance simply because there is so much riding against the good, the nuanced. Subtlety and depth are trampled...so if it's even half-way decent Grud bless them. Same for the Minty people, bravo.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 19 June, 2012, 03:07:42 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 19 June, 2012, 02:53:55 PM
to be honest, darnmarr, you are negative person on this thread!
Better to be negative here on this thread, (where there is an army of enthusiasts to drown me out), than somewhere else populated by folk as don't understand the character, or who think of the Stallone movie when they hear 'Judge Dredd'. If it's okay with you guys I'd like to save my gushing positivity for other forums (where it's needed, just for balance) and air my few minor concerns here.

I honestly didn't think I was that negative.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 19 June, 2012, 03:15:22 PM
And while I'm being 'negative':
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 02:54:14 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 19 June, 2012, 02:48:53 PM
I honestly expect a less-than-impressive trailer,
Yes, that poster was rather unimpressive.
It didn't blow me away Joe, as a stand-alone poster, I'd be lying if I said it did. It's effective at stating "Dark..different...nothing to do with Stallone" and that's its job, but the venus-de-milo of film posters it aint.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 19 June, 2012, 03:17:16 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 19 June, 2012, 03:15:22 PM
the venus-de-milo of film posters it aint.
You can see one of Dredds arms for a start.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 19 June, 2012, 03:19:19 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 June, 2012, 03:20:30 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 19 June, 2012, 03:15:22 PM
And while I'm being 'negative':
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 02:54:14 PM
It didn't blow me away Joe

They have one shot at a poster. For me, I thought it more than did the job. Karl Urban isn't in shot - just the uniform. That was, I think, a really strong signal to the fans that this is NOT about the lead and all about the character.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 19 June, 2012, 03:45:02 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 19 June, 2012, 03:20:30 PMKarl Urban isn't in shot - just the uniform. That was, I think, a really strong signal to the fans that this is NOT about the lead and all about the character.

Or even that the uniform is the character.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 June, 2012, 04:10:31 PM
Darnmarr, they could have gone so many ways, it's true. But this is a pretty good direction when you consider the damage to the name took with the previous film...and how few people know the character - and the budget they had. I think they made the best they could.

Imagine they went for a Drew Struzan type image with an oil of all the hyper-realist characters fading in and out, that would have been loved by fans but the people who don't know the story might be lost, and don't know the actors OR perhaps think it's that Stallone pish again.

If they'd gone action...again, I think people could be lost. With this poster they fade him in, emphasise uniform and the non-fan might be inclined to wonder who this is and why the figure is so threatening.
That's just my take...I think it's a doozy...this Venus de Milo is well armed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 19 June, 2012, 04:13:35 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 19 June, 2012, 02:51:31 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 19 June, 2012, 02:48:53 PM
I reckon what we're dealing with here is the 'anti-Prometheus' people.

Zeus...?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That was excellent.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 04:13:53 PM
and we still have Jock's poster to come.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 19 June, 2012, 04:18:14 PM
Oh, if only the trailer was released last thursday, when i had a day off work,  ;)

I dont often pop on this thread, as i wanna see Dredd in the piccies with as little fore-knowledge as possible, but thats great news int it. Summat very much to look forward too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 19 June, 2012, 04:29:46 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 04:13:53 PM
and we still have Jock's poster to come.

Whats happening with that- are we going to see just a few weeks prior to release?

Whats the best tip to get hold of a Dredd poster -ask the cinema manager for one when the films release ends ,perhaps?Any ideas?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 June, 2012, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 19 June, 2012, 04:29:46 PM
Whats the best tip to get hold of a Dredd poster -ask the cinema manager for one when the films release ends ,perhaps?Any ideas?

Nick it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 19 June, 2012, 04:45:16 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 19 June, 2012, 04:29:46 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 04:13:53 PM
and we still have Jock's poster to come.

Whats happening with that- are we going to see just a few weeks prior to release?

Whats the best tip to get hold of a Dredd poster -ask the cinema manager for one when the films release ends ,perhaps?Any ideas?
Yeah,ask.I've known people request standees,just ask first and they might save it for you.I'm going back to proper flea pit cinemas rather than multiplexes though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 19 June, 2012, 04:46:14 PM
Ok. I've been umming and ahhing for months now and the triple whammy of The avengers, Prometheus and mostly Dredd means I've finally bitten the bullet and bought a 3D TV ans Blu-ray player!

Just wondered, Anyone else hoping to upgrade their old sets in hope that Dredd will be the perfect showcase for a 3D Home Cinema?

Fingers crossed or I'll be round Pete Travis' house for a refund!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 19 June, 2012, 05:11:12 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 02:30:40 PM
Yep, though there's no need to criticise for mistakes not made. We're not out to crucify.

Indeed, the "Judgment" thing isn't a problem, it just looked wrong/different to me, compared to the GNs/Dredd stories. So yes, blaming the yanks in this case is unfair.

And a Jock poster to come you say? Sweeeeeeet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 19 June, 2012, 05:16:07 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 19 June, 2012, 04:46:14 PM
Ok. I've been umming and ahhing for months now and the triple whammy of The avengers, Prometheus and mostly Dredd means I've finally bitten the bullet and bought a 3D TV ans Blu-ray player!

Just wondered, Anyone else hoping to upgrade their old sets in hope that Dredd will be the perfect showcase for a 3D Home Cinema?

Fingers crossed or I'll be round Pete Travis' house for a refund!  ;)

For movies, not so much.. Gaming: yes..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 June, 2012, 05:17:41 PM
Jock did a poster for the Raid as well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 19 June, 2012, 05:33:48 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 June, 2012, 05:17:41 PM
Jock did a poster for the Raid as well.
Which is being used as the cover to the ltd. edition steel book release I think

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 19 June, 2012, 05:44:03 PM
Quote from: James on 19 June, 2012, 05:33:48 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 June, 2012, 05:17:41 PM
Jock did a poster for the Raid as well.
Which is being used as the cover to the ltd. edition steel book release I think

Here's hoping for an HMV/Play/Amazon Dredd steelbook from Jock then!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 19 June, 2012, 05:52:47 PM
Quote from: James on 19 June, 2012, 05:33:48 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 June, 2012, 05:17:41 PM
Jock did a poster for the Raid as well.
Which is being used as the cover to the ltd. edition steel book release I think

This one I think.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2ydinfUvY1qfqi8jo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buddy on 19 June, 2012, 06:01:19 PM
So... the trailer is out on Thursday....

But what TIME on Thursday???!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 19 June, 2012, 06:10:42 PM
21.34  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 June, 2012, 06:27:10 PM


This one I think.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2ydinfUvY1qfqi8jo1_500.jpg)
[/quote]

That's a doozy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 June, 2012, 06:29:23 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 19 June, 2012, 06:10:42 PM
21.34  ;)
Strontium71 is that official?...just wondering, I heard between 5 & 6 UK time, that's not official, but it was from someone who's in a good place to guess.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 19 June, 2012, 06:44:38 PM
Nah! It's just the current Dredd year and I thought...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 19 June, 2012, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 19 June, 2012, 06:29:23 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 19 June, 2012, 06:10:42 PM
21.34  ;)
Strontium71 is that official?...just wondering, I heard between 5 & 6 UK time, that's not official, but it was from someone who's in a good place to guess.

Factor in California time. 5/6pm BST sounds about right.

Interesting to me the poster and website are all veering towards the US market. (Spelling and release dates.) Bodes well they're going to give it a good push over here.

Don't know how I'm going to survive the next 36 hours without exploding...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 June, 2012, 07:25:22 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 19 June, 2012, 06:44:38 PM
Nah! It's just the current Dredd year and I thought...
:)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge cooper on 19 June, 2012, 07:27:08 PM
who is playing Dredd
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 June, 2012, 07:27:36 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 19 June, 2012, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 19 June, 2012, 06:29:23 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 19 June, 2012, 06:10:42 PM
Don't know how I'm going to survive the next 36 hours without exploding...
Survive by channeling the furious envy I'm generating here! ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 June, 2012, 07:28:08 PM
Quote from: judge cooper on 19 June, 2012, 07:27:08 PM
who is playing Dredd
Who is on first.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge cooper on 19 June, 2012, 07:30:13 PM
i hope death is in it
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 June, 2012, 07:36:02 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 11:00:10 AM
I see they've replaced the EECUTIONER spelling mistake on the SYNOPSIS with another misspelling : EXCUTIONER.

Nice.
http://www.dreddthemovie.com/#/synopsis
It's official, he's now an EXECUTIONER !!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 19 June, 2012, 07:53:54 PM
Thats my boy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 19 June, 2012, 08:08:21 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 19 June, 2012, 07:36:02 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 11:00:10 AM
I see they've replaced the EECUTIONER spelling mistake on the SYNOPSIS with another misspelling : EXCUTIONER.

Nice.
http://www.dreddthemovie.com/#/synopsis
It's official, he's now an EXECUTIONER !!

:lol: 3rd time lucky!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 19 June, 2012, 08:39:44 PM
Quote from: judge cooper on 19 June, 2012, 07:30:13 PM
i hope death is in it

There will be lots of death in it. Dredd kills a lot of people.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge cooper on 19 June, 2012, 09:11:13 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 19 June, 2012, 08:39:44 PM
Quote from: judge cooper on 19 June, 2012, 07:30:13 PM
i hope death is in it

There will be lots of death in it. Dredd kills a lot of people.
i meant judge death
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 June, 2012, 09:13:07 PM
Quote from: judge cooper on 19 June, 2012, 07:27:08 PM
who is playing Dredd

Quote from: judge cooper on 19 June, 2012, 07:30:13 PM
i hope death is in it

I hope you were sarcastic?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 June, 2012, 09:48:46 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 19 June, 2012, 07:28:08 PM
Quote from: judge cooper on 19 June, 2012, 07:27:08 PM
who is playing Dredd
Who is on first.

Whos on first whats on second.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 June, 2012, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 June, 2012, 09:48:46 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 19 June, 2012, 07:28:08 PM
Quote from: judge cooper on 19 June, 2012, 07:27:08 PM
who is playing Dredd
Who is on first.

Whos on first whats on second.

Abbott: Well, let's see, we have on the bags, Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know is on third...

Costello: That's what I want to find out.

Abbott: I say Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know's on third.

Costello: Gaze into the face of Fear.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 19 June, 2012, 10:18:04 PM
I hope the film comes out and I hope that the film is good and that we all like the film and that lots of people go see the film and they all like the film too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 19 June, 2012, 10:22:26 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 19 June, 2012, 10:18:04 PM
I hope the film comes out and I hope that the film is good and that we all like the film and that lots of people go see the film and they all like the film too.

You must hope that this film is amazing, or you can't be in the special club.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 19 June, 2012, 10:32:40 PM
Quotei meant judge death

I'm sure there will be plenty of judge death, too. As well as citizen death, criminal death and mega death.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge cooper on 19 June, 2012, 10:33:41 PM
is DREDD the only 2000AD film (an judge dredd)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 19 June, 2012, 10:35:03 PM
I guess Hardware vaguely counts as under the 2000ad umbrella, right...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 19 June, 2012, 10:39:07 PM
Quote from: judge cooper on 19 June, 2012, 10:33:41 PM
is DREDD the only 2000AD film (an judge dredd)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_AD_(film) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_AD_(film))
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 June, 2012, 11:46:34 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 19 June, 2012, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 June, 2012, 09:48:46 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 19 June, 2012, 07:28:08 PM
Quote from: judge cooper on 19 June, 2012, 07:27:08 PM
who is playing Dredd
Who is on first.

Whos on first whats on second.

Abbott: Well, let's see, we have on the bags, Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know is on third...

Costello: That's what I want to find out.

Abbott: I say Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know's on third.

Costello: Gaze into the face of Fear.

;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 June, 2012, 01:31:53 AM
Some head posted this on the facebook page:



(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7FvxYxLJ2DQ/T9yOIAndPqI/AAAAAAAACV0/DolTKaKmn9g/s1600/judge-dedd.jpg)


He got fish 'ands.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 20 June, 2012, 01:56:22 AM
Thats pretty cool, except for the hand. Hand lets it down.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jay jay on 20 June, 2012, 03:21:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzm3X_nuHRI&list=PL65DF39CD842430DA&index=1&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzm3X_nuHRI&list=PL65DF39CD842430DA&index=1&feature=plcp)

teaser for the trailer
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Emperor on 20 June, 2012, 04:21:09 AM
Quote from: jay jay on 20 June, 2012, 03:21:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzm3X_nuHRI&list=PL65DF39CD842430DA&index=1&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzm3X_nuHRI&list=PL65DF39CD842430DA&index=1&feature=plcp)

teaser for the trailer

Direct link to the section:

http://youtu.be/pzm3X_nuHRI?t=2m34s
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: exilewood on 20 June, 2012, 04:41:14 AM
OH YEAH!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Waltev on 20 June, 2012, 05:32:40 AM
Quote from: Emperor on 20 June, 2012, 04:21:09 AM
Quote from: jay jay on 20 June, 2012, 03:21:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzm3X_nuHRI&list=PL65DF39CD842430DA&index=1&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzm3X_nuHRI&list=PL65DF39CD842430DA&index=1&feature=plcp)

teaser for the trailer

Direct link to the section:

http://youtu.be/pzm3X_nuHRI?t=2m34s

Oh sh*t, Oh God oh God oh God oh God....

I thought I could stay blase on the trailer issue until thursday and concentrate on working - that possibility was just given a Standard Execution by that teaser.

That was AWESOME!!

Friday is a day off. I will hermit up and run the trailer through my projector in an endless loop.

Endless, I tell you!
I will not sleep!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 20 June, 2012, 06:17:58 AM
Oh yeah!!! Looking great!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 20 June, 2012, 06:25:33 AM
I think I just dirtied my pants. S'pose it's better I did it here than in the theater tomorrow night...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 20 June, 2012, 06:31:50 AM
Fuck me. That just gets better every time...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 20 June, 2012, 06:36:16 AM
 
Quote from: blackmocco on 20 June, 2012, 06:25:33 AM
I think I just dirtied my pants. S'pose it's better I did it here than in the theater tomorrow night...
:D

Those images are painterly...particularly that slo-mo gut shut...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 20 June, 2012, 06:39:58 AM
A face is reflected in his visor... :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 20 June, 2012, 06:41:55 AM
And that's part of the slo-mo prelim animation we saw...and is that bike cannon at the start???...damn this is cool. Blue van shot looks cool enough to me! Nay quibbles there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: locustsofdeath! on 20 June, 2012, 06:51:16 AM
I'll be at a small convention this weekend, and I can't wait to find out what the interest level is on these shores now that the trailer's hit. Last con, no one even knew a Dredd movie was in the works!

Also, does anyone find it funny that a Sly movie (Expendables 2) may be in cinemas at the same time as Dredd? (of course, Expendables 2 will have been out for a few weeks by then)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 20 June, 2012, 06:55:08 AM

Teaser!

http://www.examiner.com/video/10-second-clip-of-dredd (http://www.examiner.com/video/10-second-clip-of-dredd)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 June, 2012, 07:01:04 AM
Perfect!!! Can't wait for Sept 7th!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 20 June, 2012, 07:10:33 AM
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 20 June, 2012, 06:51:16 AM
Also, does anyone find it funny that a Sly movie (Expendables 2) may be in cinemas at the same time as Dredd?

Grud's trying to set the record straight.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 20 June, 2012, 07:25:57 AM
What a great frame!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: clavell on 20 June, 2012, 07:34:52 AM
Oh
My
Grud

- C
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 20 June, 2012, 07:55:59 AM
Now thats what we have been waiting for.

This needs to be in the trailer thread by the way! ;-)

Oh! an intro to the Meg with perps getting blow away in slo mo!  . . . .  My fan-tasy trailer just came true, thanks DNA!  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 June, 2012, 09:01:50 AM
Here Anderson!

(http://i.imgur.com/ZC7P3.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 20 June, 2012, 10:41:50 AM
Now that looks mighty fine to me!

Watched that teaser a dozen times already :) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrHfq0QWFoE&feature=player_embedded)


(http://i47.tinypic.com/2ikoyzn.png)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 20 June, 2012, 10:46:41 AM
Was just thinking

LENNY ZERO!

How good would he be in a DREDD sequel!  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Radbacker on 20 June, 2012, 11:33:05 AM
early release of the trainler snuck onto youtube quick watch it before they take it down :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueYUwcZV-n0&feature=related

CU Radbacker
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 20 June, 2012, 11:38:00 AM
 :o bastard..  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 20 June, 2012, 11:42:42 AM
Quote from: Radbacker on 20 June, 2012, 11:33:05 AM
early release of the trainler snuck onto youtube quick watch it before they take it down :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueYUwcZV-n0&feature=related

CU Radbacker

Not Big...Not Clever  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 20 June, 2012, 12:09:05 PM
Urban's Dreddvoice is pretty close to what I hear in my head when I read the strip (albeit younger than the current Dredd). Flat, not heavily accented, and gritty without overdoing the bass or the gravel. Perfect.

And the helmet fits just right :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 20 June, 2012, 12:13:22 PM
Idle thought: I wonder if NZ media will try to lay claim to Dredd's character in the same way they've staked out Middle Earth?

Probably not. Bugger :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 20 June, 2012, 12:28:41 PM
Teaser's too big. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 June, 2012, 12:39:42 PM
Well I create this teaser....

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/252736_10150872124911636_1163680921_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dash Decent on 20 June, 2012, 01:33:00 PM
Now Lionsgate have upped the ante, maybe the Minty boys will be drawn to go head to head and release their own trailer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 June, 2012, 02:21:14 PM
Not as far as I'm concerned.

It's not a competition.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 20 June, 2012, 03:18:48 PM
The Facebook movie page (http://www.facebook.com/dreddthemovie) seems to require you to be a member of Facebook now, or is that just happening here?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 20 June, 2012, 04:02:22 PM
Quote from: Dash Decent on 20 June, 2012, 01:33:00 PM
Now Lionsgate have upped the ante, maybe the Minty boys will be drawn to go head to head and release their own trailer.

Would be a lovely gesture if it was attached to the general release of`Dredd`.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 20 June, 2012, 04:08:06 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 20 June, 2012, 04:02:22 PM
Quote from: Dash Decent on 20 June, 2012, 01:33:00 PM
Now Lionsgate have upped the ante, maybe the Minty boys will be drawn to go head to head and release their own trailer.

Would be a lovely gesture if it was attached to the general release of`Dredd`.

I understand, and Steve can correct me, that Minty would need to be finished first.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 June, 2012, 04:13:39 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 20 June, 2012, 04:08:06 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 20 June, 2012, 04:02:22 PM
Quote from: Dash Decent on 20 June, 2012, 01:33:00 PM
Now Lionsgate have upped the ante, maybe the Minty boys will be drawn to go head to head and release their own trailer.

Would be a lovely gesture if it was attached to the general release of`Dredd`.

I understand, and Steve can correct me, that Minty would need to be finished first.

At least it could get great boost from Dredd as there is Minty on the wall there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 June, 2012, 04:19:25 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 20 June, 2012, 04:08:06 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 20 June, 2012, 04:02:22 PM
Quote from: Dash Decent on 20 June, 2012, 01:33:00 PM
Now Lionsgate have upped the ante, maybe the Minty boys will be drawn to go head to head and release their own trailer.

Would be a lovely gesture if it was attached to the general release of`Dredd`.

I understand, and Steve can correct me, that Minty would need to be finished first.

It would definitely help.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 June, 2012, 04:19:28 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 20 June, 2012, 04:02:22 PM
Quote from: Dash Decent on 20 June, 2012, 01:33:00 PM
Now Lionsgate have upped the ante, maybe the Minty boys will be drawn to go head to head and release their own trailer.

Would be a lovely gesture if it was attached to the general release of`Dredd`.

It would be a rather strange gesture to have one interpretation of Dredd play before another. If it was an ABC Warriors short or something else form the 2000AD stable it would be fine but two Dredds would be visually confusing to a new audience.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 June, 2012, 04:20:20 PM
Definitely throw 'em both on the same DVD though. Best of both worlds.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 June, 2012, 04:31:47 PM
Yeah, it definitely wouldn't work - you might as well stick the Stallone trailer before it... too different.

I don't know what the precedent is for putting fan stuff on DVDs, can't think of that many offhand, but Dredd is a lot more independent than the rest.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 June, 2012, 04:36:26 PM
I wouldn't rule it out Steve. Maybe yis'll get an interview considering there's some early pre-production connections there- if it's acknowledged
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 20 June, 2012, 04:40:12 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 June, 2012, 04:36:26 PM
I wouldn't rule it out Steve. Maybe yis'll get an interview considering there's some early pre-production connections there- if it's acknowledged

DVD extra stuff already done, I believe.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 June, 2012, 05:06:49 PM
I'd rule it out Steve.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 June, 2012, 05:08:50 PM
I'll just hang around HMV shouting about Minty at anyone who buys it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge cooper on 20 June, 2012, 05:44:52 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 June, 2012, 01:31:53 AM
Some head posted this on the facebook page:



(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7FvxYxLJ2DQ/T9yOIAndPqI/AAAAAAAACV0/DolTKaKmn9g/s1600/judge-dedd.jpg)


He got fish 'ands.
that looks sweet
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 20 June, 2012, 06:34:46 PM
Quote from: judge cooper on 20 June, 2012, 05:44:52 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 June, 2012, 01:31:53 AM
Some head posted this on the facebook page:



(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7FvxYxLJ2DQ/T9yOIAndPqI/AAAAAAAACV0/DolTKaKmn9g/s1600/judge-dedd.jpg)


He got fish 'ands.
that looks sweet


If a bit limp wristed :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 20 June, 2012, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: Radbacker on 20 June, 2012, 11:33:05 AM
early release of the trainler snuck onto youtube quick watch it before they take it down :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueYUwcZV-n0&feature=related
CU Radbacker

That's not Ginuwine.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 20 June, 2012, 09:54:56 PM
I'm not reading a 25 page trailer trhread aswell!!

Teaser looke ace!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 20 June, 2012, 09:55:47 PM
God I hate laptops.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 20 June, 2012, 11:14:58 PM
Quote from: Banners on 20 June, 2012, 03:18:48 PM
The Facebook movie page (http://www.facebook.com/dreddthemovie) seems to require you to be a member of Facebook now, or is that just happening here?

Pretty sure you'd always need a membership to post anything, not sure about being able to view.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 20 June, 2012, 11:27:28 PM
Was it today there was supposed to be a preview screening in the U.S?I can't see the posts on the `Dredd` Facebook page that discussed it anymore.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 June, 2012, 11:30:26 PM
N.D.A.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 20 June, 2012, 11:32:06 PM
Aha!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: locustsofdeath! on 21 June, 2012, 06:48:13 AM
Suppose Dredd does great (and I certainly hope it does) and warrants a sequel  - a sequel with a much bigger budget. Do they go for a look closer to the comics or stay within this near future timeline?

I know I'm getting ahead of myself, talking not only sequels, but sequels with big budgets - but c'mon, why not, right? After all, we never thought we'd get another Dredd film after '95, SO WE MIGHT AS WELL DREAM BIG.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 21 June, 2012, 07:04:33 AM
The NDA doesn't fucking matter anyhow folks. Gutted. Didn't fucking get in!!! I was next in line and they cut it off!!! Absolutely heartbroken. So we're back in the same boat. Went for dinner afterward and couldn't so much as string a sentence together. Haven't been this shattered since I was a kid. Fuck everything. Going to stupid bed.

If there's anything positive to take from this it's that the line was HUGE an hour before the time they told you to arrive and based on that alone, I think it's going to do very comfortably at the box office.

Bollocks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 21 June, 2012, 07:16:13 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 21 June, 2012, 07:04:33 AM
The NDA doesn't fucking matter anyhow folks. Gutted. Didn't fucking get in!!! I was next in line and they cut it off!!! Absolutely heartbroken. So we're back in the same boat. Went for dinner afterward and couldn't so much as string a sentence together. Haven't been this shattered since I was a kid. Fuck everything. Going to stupid bed.

If there's anything positive to take from this it's that the line was HUGE an hour before the time they told you to arrive and based on that alone, I think it's going to do very comfortably at the box office.

Bollocks.

Stomm!! That horrible! All my feeling of envy are instantly transformed into sympathy. Seriously, that sucks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 21 June, 2012, 07:18:14 AM
Aaaaaaagh, REALLY sorry to hear that Blackmocco! I was rootin' for ya!

Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 21 June, 2012, 06:48:13 AM
Suppose Dredd does great (and I certainly hope it does) and warrants a sequel  - a sequel with a much bigger budget. Do they go for a look closer to the comics or stay within this near future timeline?

For me, it's only the vehicles that don't look like the comic and I can certainly cope with that. The city looks fine as do the judges. I'm really optimistic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 June, 2012, 07:25:29 AM
Lawmaster does looks fucking awesome!

(http://i.imgur.com/3fPud.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 21 June, 2012, 07:28:45 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 21 June, 2012, 07:25:29 AM
Lawmaster does looks fucking awesome!

(http://i.imgur.com/3fPud.jpg)

Indeed it does, glad too, looks like Jock was right...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 21 June, 2012, 07:30:08 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 21 June, 2012, 07:04:33 AM
The NDA doesn't fucking matter anyhow folks. Gutted. Didn't fucking get in!!! I was next in line and they cut it off!!! Absolutely heartbroken. So we're back in the same boat. Went for dinner afterward and couldn't so much as string a sentence together. Haven't been this shattered since I was a kid. Fuck everything. Going to stupid bed.
If there's anything positive to take from this it's that the line was HUGE an hour before the time they told you to arrive and based on that alone, I think it's going to do very comfortably at the box office.
Bollocks.

Sorry to hear it dude, still, there's always September :D...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 21 June, 2012, 07:33:28 AM
NOOOOOOO!!! That's so hatefully cruel!! Was so excited for you too! :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 June, 2012, 07:36:41 AM
Wow, they are really good, they can spotting 2000AD forum poster!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 21 June, 2012, 07:54:34 AM
Ah Blackmocco, that's just SHITE.  Heart goes out to you, fella.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 21 June, 2012, 08:25:17 AM
Buggeration. Sorry to hear that BM
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 21 June, 2012, 08:34:48 AM
That's horrible.  Sorry to hear you missed out - I was looking forward to hearing what a true Dredd fan thought of the film.  At least now you won't be inundated with requests from people on the forum asking you to spill the beans!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 21 June, 2012, 08:41:20 AM
Bad luck - still like you say, good there was that much interest...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 21 June, 2012, 08:43:16 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 21 June, 2012, 07:25:29 AM
Lawmaster does looks fucking awesome!

(http://i.imgur.com/3fPud.jpg)

OH FUCK!!! I just got butterflies in my stomach looking at that pic. It looks INCREDIBLE.

I missed the leaked trailer but I don't mind waiting till this evening to see it in its true glory.

Sorry to hear you didn't get in Blackmocco. Don't be too down.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 21 June, 2012, 08:54:06 AM
..well, considering the line to get in was insanely big, I can only have high hopes for it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 21 June, 2012, 08:54:56 AM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 21 June, 2012, 08:43:16 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 21 June, 2012, 07:25:29 AM
Lawmaster does looks fucking awesome!

(http://i.imgur.com/3fPud.jpg)

OH FUCK!!! I just got butterflies in my stomach looking at that pic. It looks INCREDIBLE.

I missed the leaked trailer but I don't mind waiting till this evening to see it in its true glory.

Sorry to hear you didn't get in Blackmocco. Don't be too down.

See those things glued to the side? I drew those :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 21 June, 2012, 09:05:46 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 21 June, 2012, 08:54:56 AM
See those things glued to the side? I drew those :)

You did good man!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklarr on 21 June, 2012, 10:27:25 AM
Anyone who has stills glimpsed the front of the Lawmaster?
If and what the eagle looks like..?   :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 21 June, 2012, 10:46:49 AM
There isn't one, at least nothing that I can see.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 21 June, 2012, 12:30:54 PM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 21 June, 2012, 07:30:08 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 21 June, 2012, 07:04:33 AM
The NDA doesn't fucking matter anyhow folks. Gutted. Didn't fucking get in!!! I was next in line and they cut it off!!! Absolutely heartbroken. So we're back in the same boat. Went for dinner afterward and couldn't so much as string a sentence together. Haven't been this shattered since I was a kid. Fuck everything. Going to stupid bed.
If there's anything positive to take from this it's that the line was HUGE an hour before the time they told you to arrive and based on that alone, I think it's going to do very comfortably at the box office.
Bollocks.
Hard lines Blackmocco, very sorry to hear this.
Sorry to hear it dude, still, there's always September :D...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 21 June, 2012, 12:48:33 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 21 June, 2012, 07:04:33 AM
The NDA doesn't fucking matter anyhow folks. Gutted. Didn't fucking get in!!! I was next in line and they cut it off!!! Absolutely heartbroken. So we're back in the same boat. Went for dinner afterward and couldn't so much as string a sentence together. Haven't been this shattered since I was a kid. Fuck everything. Going to stupid bed.

If there's anything positive to take from this it's that the line was HUGE an hour before the time they told you to arrive and based on that alone, I think it's going to do very comfortably at the box office.

Bollocks.


Jeeez -sorry to hear that Blackmocco, very bad luck buddy.

Like you say ,the positive is the demand is there.Hopefully enough to prompt a sequel which would be happy days again for all of us.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 June, 2012, 12:55:20 PM
Cursed Earth!

(http://i.imgur.com/sUMoB.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 June, 2012, 01:00:23 PM
Grand Hall of Justice

(http://i.imgur.com/onUrl.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 21 June, 2012, 01:08:39 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 21 June, 2012, 08:54:56 AM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 21 June, 2012, 08:43:16 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 21 June, 2012, 07:25:29 AM
Lawmaster does looks fucking awesome!
Sorry to hear you didn't get in Blackmocco. Don't be too down.

See those things glued to the side? I drew those :)
That's a cool contribution...nice one!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 June, 2012, 01:17:56 PM
I do like this image

(http://i.imgur.com/ch5Lu.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 21 June, 2012, 01:18:56 PM
Theres some really iconic imagery in there and that is one of them *putting the helmet on to Stallones taking it off*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 21 June, 2012, 01:39:07 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 21 June, 2012, 01:17:56 PM
I do like this image

(http://i.imgur.com/ch5Lu.jpg)
Grand.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 21 June, 2012, 01:39:31 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 21 June, 2012, 01:18:56 PM
Theres some really iconic imagery in there and that is one of them *putting the helmet on to Stallones taking it off*
Right!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ED GRIMREAPER on 21 June, 2012, 01:50:09 PM
Love the trailer. And I love Booda's pic of Dredd from the trailer. Urban's scowl is the business! Dredd is back!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 21 June, 2012, 02:00:12 PM
Quote from: ED GRIMREAPER on 21 June, 2012, 01:50:09 PM
Love the trailer. And I love Booda's pic of Dredd from the trailer. Urban's scowl is the business! Dredd is back!!!!
Oh yes!...I've been told off for saying they 'nailed it' too often...so, let's just say - Garland and Travis Martin Fxxxxxx Luther'd it to the door!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 21 June, 2012, 02:06:13 PM
Now, ladies and gentlemen, I must with 'draw'. This is the only thing I've ever been obsessed with and it's finally been done justice. I'll watch the HD tonight, but I'm off the boards until September. paintings and comics to do.

Although ....I've just started sketching a poster of DREDD to capture my excitement over this film...If work allows me to get that done, I'll be back with that.

All the best, what a great forum!!!...what a laugh...fell off my chair more than once this last few weeks

See ye's in September ye shower of mutie bastards!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 21 June, 2012, 02:10:48 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 21 June, 2012, 02:06:13 PM
All the best, what a great forum!!!...what a laugh...fell off my chair more than once this last few weeks
See ye's in September ye shower of mutie bastards!

No you won't the Mutie Liberation Front will have overthrown the country by then. ;) Sorry to hear your going but we'll see you again in September BOODA.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 June, 2012, 02:11:34 PM
Not read the script but check out cool info on each of three sections in Block!

(http://i.imgur.com/veQyW.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 21 June, 2012, 02:15:26 PM
Watched the trailer several times on youtube now and it looks absolutly amazing. I cannot wait to see the film, and I'm even feeling confident that it could do well enough to get a sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 21 June, 2012, 02:32:40 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 21 June, 2012, 12:55:20 PM
Cursed Earth!

(http://i.imgur.com/sUMoB.jpg)

I like the appearance of the city blocks, standing like huge monoliths. Comparable to Stonehenge as a symbol of our past, and MC-1, a symbol of our future.

It's quite an iconic city-scape, impressed with their vision for MC-1.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: klute on 21 June, 2012, 02:42:30 PM
WOW if the whole film plays out as well as i'm thinking/hoping and going by the trailer for me at least there on the right track,imagine what could be done with a bigger budget for a possible sequel :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 21 June, 2012, 02:53:53 PM
Quote from: klute on 21 June, 2012, 02:42:30 PM
WOW if the whole film plays out as well as i'm thinking/hoping and going by the trailer for me at least there on the right track,imagine what could be done with a bigger budget for a possible sequel :)
Alas, sequels rarely get bigger budgets.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 21 June, 2012, 02:54:16 PM
It's starting to look like "Dredd is a rip-off of The Raid" is gonna become something of a meme.

People seem to love shouting "plagarism" at the drop of a hat, especially if they think they're getting some kind of cultural capital by doing so (i.e, demonstrating their knowledge of something hip or semi-obscure - Battle Royale and The Raid being cases in point).

It pisses me off at the best of times, but with Dredd its really annoying me. Even if it was a rip-off, so freaking what? A single idea doesn't make a movie, all the micro-managed thousands of bits build up around the idea - characters, dialogue, every freakin' second of screentime - make a movie. Give a dozen creative, talented people the same idea, and you'd get a dozen great movies out of it.

Accusations of plagiarism are the first refuge of the talentless and the creatively dead. /endRant.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 21 June, 2012, 02:56:46 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 21 June, 2012, 02:32:40 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 21 June, 2012, 12:55:20 PM
Cursed Earth!

(http://i.imgur.com/sUMoB.jpg)

I like the appearance of the city blocks, standing like huge monoliths. Comparable to Stonehenge as a symbol of our past, and MC-1, a symbol of our future.

It's quite an iconic city-scape, impressed with their vision for MC-1.

Love this shot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on 21 June, 2012, 03:01:51 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 21 June, 2012, 02:11:34 PM
Not read the script but check out cool info on each of three sections in Block!

(http://i.imgur.com/veQyW.jpg)

So [spoiler]a rival gang called Judged run the lower levels, and one of the three gangers MaMa executes at the start has a "crude Judge Death tattoo". [/spoiler]Nice details.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 21 June, 2012, 03:07:41 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 21 June, 2012, 07:18:14 AM
Aaaaaaagh, REALLY sorry to hear that Blackmocco! I was rootin' for ya!

Thanks folks. Couldn't even speak last night I was so fucking smashed. S'pose what kills me most is a buddy of mine didn't even know about any screening until I told him I'd his ticket and while I was driving to get there he called to warn me the line was HUGE! Then he got in with someone else's ticket! Haha! Fucker was already inside while I fought back (very manly, I assure you) tears of anguish...

Nonetheless, back to reality and now I have wait, just like everyone else, until September. I'm not special after all. <Sob!>

(For what it's worth, my friend fucking L-O-V-E-D it...)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 21 June, 2012, 03:11:05 PM
I can only imagine the horror of it all...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 21 June, 2012, 03:55:10 PM
Your friend loving it Blackmocco is BIG news -it's the first independent opinion we've had .I did trust John Wagners verdict myself but glad to have it confirmed .EXCELLENT  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on 21 June, 2012, 03:55:56 PM
. . . what other stuff does he love, just out of interest?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SpetsnaZ99 on 21 June, 2012, 05:33:23 PM
Love the trailer.. love the line at the end "The judgement is death"
Really Dirty Harry-ish

something i need to ask, about 18/19secs in there is a flying machine, flying past 'Sternhammer' block. Is that an 'Eye in the sky'

Love the ad for 'Hottie House' ('Over there PUNK')
(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj613/SpetsnaZ991/HottieHouse.png)

And, Skateboarding still exists.... :o
(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj613/SpetsnaZ991/SKT.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: BPP on 21 June, 2012, 06:07:06 PM
I've totally stayed out of the Film thread since the start because, as PJ noted, there isn't much point till we see product.

Now we've seen product?

I'm block booking the fucking cinema.

AWESOME.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 21 June, 2012, 06:15:05 PM
Did you pause on the PSU monitors and see the crime stats for the city? Nasty place to live  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 21 June, 2012, 06:24:45 PM
Entertainment Weekly's got it up and running. This is good. New still too.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/06/21/dredd-trailer/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 21 June, 2012, 06:31:08 PM
Quote from: SpetsnaZ99 on 21 June, 2012, 05:33:23 PM

And, Skateboarding still exists.... :o
(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj613/SpetsnaZ991/SKT.png)

Oooh, there's a story about that ramp..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 21 June, 2012, 06:35:23 PM
It was Urban's stunt man?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 21 June, 2012, 06:40:40 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 21 June, 2012, 06:24:45 PM
Entertainment Weekly's got it up and running. This is good. New still too.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/06/21/dredd-trailer/

Nice pic! Decent article too. The Raid comparison is there, but let's face it, The Raid is set in some flats, this is a huge mutherfuckin' Mega-City 1 BLOCK!

Also, the gunfire across the centre of the block reminds me very much of Block Mania. Can't stop watching it  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 21 June, 2012, 06:52:33 PM
Just spotted this - is it new?

(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2012/06/21/dredd_510.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 21 June, 2012, 06:55:13 PM
So guys, where should I head to watch this trailer in good resolution? My monitor isn't that good, but I do have a PS3 if it can be watched through that.

Thanks
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 21 June, 2012, 06:55:48 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 21 June, 2012, 06:31:08 PM
Quote from: SpetsnaZ99 on 21 June, 2012, 05:33:23 PM

And, Skateboarding still exists.... :o
(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj613/SpetsnaZ991/SKT.png)

Oooh, there's a story about that ramp..

Is that `Tom Frame` block in the background,on the right?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 21 June, 2012, 07:01:32 PM
QuoteIs that `Tom Frame` block in the background,on the right?

Yes. Tom Frame gets an actual namecheck in the movie too - or at least he does in the leaked draft of the script.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 21 June, 2012, 07:03:56 PM
Excellent!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 21 June, 2012, 07:09:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkfRPIVCThk

Sorry. This is me being a little indulgent but never, had I thought it would ever be possible that 2 loves would ever have the technical capability to be publicly expressed together. Yet, here I still am and here to will play.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 21 June, 2012, 07:12:12 PM
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D made up trailer is spot on now thats a mother f**king dredd so happy
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 21 June, 2012, 07:16:08 PM
Nice trailer, looks like it'll be a lot of fun!

Two minor niggles with the trailer: 1) the awful intro music. Whose idea was that?
2) "Judgement time!" ... really? How cheesy are they planning to make this exactly?

Rest of it looks cool though. It's nice that there's an in-story reason for the slo-mo, tough hopefully it won't come across as sub-Zack Snyder (and you can't get much more sub than Zack Snyder). Not sure if there's going to be much in the way of Wagner's dark humour and satire in here but for now a kick-ass action movie will do!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 21 June, 2012, 07:19:48 PM
Rufus K on Screenrant:

QuoteI have seen a sneak preview of this film and rest assured it is INCREDIBLE. The violence is grisly and absurd, the 'slo-mo' effects are not overused but ARE gorgeous and truly astonishing to see in native 3D (not post-converted). Urban's DREDD is likeable but stoic, and the action set pieces do not disappoint. Forget about trying to figure out how much this movie has in common with Stallone's film (answer: nothing... like comparing Adam West's Batman to Nolan's), or trying to decipher the script's quality from this brief trailer. Just go see it and grin the entire time.

Genuine first review?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 21 June, 2012, 07:24:59 PM
I like the sound of that review!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 21 June, 2012, 07:27:31 PM
I should probably point out that that was from the comments, not an article. In case it looked like an official statement. My bad, and apologies if I gave that impression.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 21 June, 2012, 07:30:35 PM
Quote from: radiator on 21 June, 2012, 07:01:32 PM
QuoteIs that `Tom Frame` block in the background,on the right?
Yes. Tom Frame gets an actual namecheck in the movie too - or at least he does in the leaked draft of the script.
Jeez. So many of these Easter eggs in just a few mins of trailer and a few stills. I think it's fair to expect that the film will be loaded with them. This suggests to me that the film will have been put together with a very, very close eye on the source material and (dare I say it, what the fans will get).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 21 June, 2012, 07:34:00 PM
Spoke to my friend who saw it last night. I'll keep it as non-spoilerific as I can. The trailer shows you nothing of the city apparently. There's footage of it in the movie that'll destroy everyone here. Crowd were cheering and clapping, particularly for "I am the law!"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 21 June, 2012, 07:36:19 PM
Someone else talking about the preview, bit more official this too!

QuoteThis is a spectacular trailer, showing us how fantastic this sci-fi actioner might be. I even just heard some outstanding buzz from an early test screening last night, and it sounds like this is as good as it looks. Enjoy!

Full article below:

http://www.firstshowing.net/2012/must-watch-first-full-trailer-for-dredd-with-karl-urban/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 21 June, 2012, 07:42:09 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 21 June, 2012, 07:36:19 PM
Someone else talking about the preview, bit more official this too!

QuoteThis is a spectacular trailer, showing us how fantastic this sci-fi actioner might be. I even just heard some outstanding buzz from an early test screening last night, and it sounds like this is as good as it looks. Enjoy!

Full article below:

http://www.firstshowing.net/2012/must-watch-first-full-trailer-for-dredd-with-karl-urban/


Heartening to hear!

My 100th post too! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SpetsnaZ99 on 21 June, 2012, 08:54:43 PM
Has no one else noticed the 'Sternhammer' Block.....

Please.. tell us there is a Strontium Dog movie coming. A Slaine movie.. A Rogue Trooper Movie,,,

Sorry,, calm down mode kicking in....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 21 June, 2012, 08:56:46 PM
Quote from: SpetsnaZ99 on 21 June, 2012, 08:54:43 PM
Has no one else noticed the 'Sternhammer' Block.....

Please.. tell us there is a Strontium Dog movie coming. A Slaine movie.. A Rogue Trooper Movie,,,

Sorry,, calm down mode kicking in....

Yeah, it's mentioned in the new 'Official' trailer thread Goaty started (along with Ezquerra and what looks like Dillon Block).

http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,36300.0.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 June, 2012, 09:05:05 PM
Back after busy night...

just see those links, Oh I hate those moan animals!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 21 June, 2012, 09:08:38 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 21 June, 2012, 07:34:00 PM
Spoke to my friend who saw it last night. I'll keep it as non-spoilerific as I can. The trailer shows you nothing of the city apparently. There's footage of it in the movie that'll destroy everyone here. Crowd were cheering and clapping, particularly for "I am the law!"

Bloody fantastic!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 June, 2012, 09:10:08 PM
Just had a brilliant laugh. Two Mormons came to the door and I had an interesting chat with them for over 10 minutes about God and the world. At the end, to their amazement I invited them in but to watch the trailer  :lol:

Spread the word folks, God is now on our side  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 21 June, 2012, 09:12:56 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 June, 2012, 09:10:08 PM
Just had a brilliant laugh. Two Mormons came to the door and I had an interesting chat with them for over 10 minutes about God and the world. At the end, to their amazement I invited them in but to watch the trailer  :lol:

Spread the word folks, God is now on our side  ;)


Don't you mean Grud?  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 21 June, 2012, 09:17:40 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 June, 2012, 09:10:08 PM
Just had a brilliant laugh. Two Mormons came to the door and I had an interesting chat with them for over 10 minutes about God and the world. At the end, to their amazement I invited them in but to watch the trailer  :lol:

Spread the word folks, God is now on our side  ;)

ROFL!!! Brilliant  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 21 June, 2012, 09:22:17 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 June, 2012, 09:10:08 PM
Just had a brilliant laugh. Two Mormons came to the door and I had an interesting chat with them for over 10 minutes about God and the world. At the end, to their amazement I invited them in but to watch the trailer  :lol:

Spread the word folks, God is now on our side  ;)

(http://i45.tinypic.com/ndvb7d.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 21 June, 2012, 09:22:37 PM
 :D
Brilliant!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 21 June, 2012, 09:27:13 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 June, 2012, 09:10:08 PM
Just had a brilliant laugh. Two Mormons came to the door and I had an interesting chat with them for over 10 minutes about God and the world. At the end, to their amazement I invited them in but to watch the trailer  :lol:

Spread the word folks, God is now on our side  ;)

Thread win!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 21 June, 2012, 09:38:53 PM
I imagine he was in costume and it went down something like this.

(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/10/108981/2222831-bishop_desmond_snodgrass_large.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 21 June, 2012, 09:39:58 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 21 June, 2012, 09:38:53 PM
I imagine he was in costume and it went down something like this.

(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/10/108981/2222831-bishop_desmond_snodgrass_large.jpg)

:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 21 June, 2012, 10:03:38 PM
Saw this comment posted at Screen Rant

"I have seen a sneak preview of this film and rest assured it is INCREDIBLE. The violence is grisly and absurd, the 'slo-mo' effects are not overused but ARE gorgeous and truly astonishing to see in native 3D (not post-converted). Urban's DREDD is likeable but stoic, and the action set pieces do not disappoint. Forget about trying to figure out how much this movie has in common with Stallone's film (answer: nothing... like comparing Adam West's Batman to Nolan's), or trying to decipher the script's quality from this brief trailer. Just go see it and grin the entire time."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 21 June, 2012, 10:17:24 PM
Mr commando forces, you are a brilliant, mad, bastard and i applaud you. First laugh ive had today- which if you knew the pain i was in, would not surprise you. Still coming on saturday though, so dont worry. Even if it does prove to be broken.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 21 June, 2012, 11:35:55 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 June, 2012, 09:10:08 PM
Just had a brilliant laugh. Two Mormons came to the door and I had an interesting chat with them for over 10 minutes about God and the world. At the end, to their amazement I invited them in but to watch the trailer  :lol:

Spread the word folks, God is now on our side  ;)

They though they understood the concept of 'faith'. Beyond obsession, there is madness, and beyond madness there is only Burdis.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 June, 2012, 11:39:51 PM
"By the way, have you seen my cellar?"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 21 June, 2012, 11:53:18 PM
Haha!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 June, 2012, 12:13:37 AM
I did expect comparisons of the raid, but I don't see why people are using it as a negative thing. Shouldn't they be glad that there is two awesome movies with a similar plot coming out in the same year instead of just one? I am.

(would make a good movie night along with die hard)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 22 June, 2012, 12:21:42 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 June, 2012, 11:39:51 PM
"By the way, have you seen my cellar?"

Bring Out The Gimp!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 22 June, 2012, 12:44:31 AM
If this many people had really seen The Raid it would have made a billion dollars at the box office. It was in, like, four theaters here in L.A. Fucking internet. Everyone's a fucking expert.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 22 June, 2012, 12:51:35 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 22 June, 2012, 12:44:31 AM
If this many people had really seen The Raid it would have made a billion dollars at the box office. It was in, like, four theaters here in L.A. Fucking internet. Everyone's a fucking expert.

F**k 'em. There trolling it and if they dont see the film its a big loss on their part.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 June, 2012, 01:05:00 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 22 June, 2012, 12:44:31 AM
If this many people had really seen The Raid it would have made a billion dollars at the box office. It was in, like, four theaters here in L.A. Fucking internet. Everyone's a fucking expert.

I imagine a lot of people just downloaded it though, a good copy got leaked pretty early.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 22 June, 2012, 01:05:51 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 June, 2012, 01:05:00 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 22 June, 2012, 12:44:31 AM
If this many people had really seen The Raid it would have made a billion dollars at the box office. It was in, like, four theaters here in L.A. Fucking internet. Everyone's a fucking expert.

I imagine a lot of people just downloaded it though, a good copy got leaked pretty early.

How the hell does that happen ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 22 June, 2012, 01:10:35 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 22 June, 2012, 12:51:35 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 22 June, 2012, 12:44:31 AM
If this many people had really seen The Raid it would have made a billion dollars at the box office. It was in, like, four theaters here in L.A. Fucking internet. Everyone's a fucking expert.

I honestly think the concept of this film as "The Raid, in English, with that crap character Stallone played once..." (insulting as it is to the actual truth) may prove a winner in the long run: it's just about intriguing enough to get an initial audience in the door— an audience with big mouths and low expectations, and therefore ripe for the 'blowing away' and the subsequently falling over each other to be posturing on the web as the first to have ' discovered' it.

Honestly, it could turn out to be the best thing.

Provided the film rocks, of course.

F**k 'em. There trolling it and if they dont see the film its a big loss on their part.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 June, 2012, 01:33:41 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 22 June, 2012, 01:05:51 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 June, 2012, 01:05:00 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 22 June, 2012, 12:44:31 AM
If this many people had really seen The Raid it would have made a billion dollars at the box office. It was in, like, four theaters here in L.A. Fucking internet. Everyone's a fucking expert.

I imagine a lot of people just downloaded it though, a good copy got leaked pretty early.

How the hell does that happen ?

I don't know exactly, but someone probably gets paid off somewhere down the line.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 22 June, 2012, 01:34:43 AM
EDIT FUNCTION BLAH GRUMBLE
Quote from: blackmocco on 22 June, 2012, 12:44:31 AM
If this many people had really seen The Raid it would have made a billion dollars at the box office. It was in, like, four theaters here in L.A. Fucking internet. Everyone's a fucking expert.

I honestly think the concept of this film as "The Raid, in English, with that crap character Stallone played once..." (insulting as it is to the actual truth) may prove a winner in the long run: it's just about intriguing enough to get an initial audience in the door— an audience with big mouths and low expectations, and therefore ripe for the 'blowing away' and the subsequently falling over each other to be posturing on the web as the first to have ' discovered' it.
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 22 June, 2012, 12:51:35 AM
F**k 'em. There trolling it and if they dont see the film its a big loss on their part.
Honestly, it could turn out to be the best thing.

Provided the film rocks, of course.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 22 June, 2012, 01:56:21 AM
I'd bet money that a lot of the people making The Raid comparisons haven't actually seen The Raid: they've seen a trailer, maybe, or read a plot synopsis, or just seen someone else making the same comparison. Hater's gotta hate, but they need ammunition sometimes.

I hope you're right about it proving to be an advantage. This is the first time I've ever followed a trailer's release so closely, so I have no idea how such negativity translates into box office returns.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 22 June, 2012, 01:56:40 AM
I honestly think that Dredd is going to turn out to be a sleeper hit and Judging by most of the comments I'm seeing elsewhere, people are saying things like ' I guess I like the trailer but I still don't know what to think'.
I translate this as:

'Holy F*ck! that trailer was the shit! (meaning good), I just thought I'd come hear to make a stupid comment about Stallone's the only real Dredd and LAAAAAAAWWW, and this new Remake will suck monkey Balls, But that trailer was so damn good it has me scared and confused. This  isn't The Dark Knight or the Avengers so  I'm afraid of what my fellow Nolan Wheden disciples will say if I do anything but pretend I don't like it.'


Btw, I've seen The Raid and loved it, but its definitely not the Alpha and Omega of all Action movies out there, and in my opinion, to use my adopted phrase of the day, Dredd will SHIT ALL OVER IT!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 June, 2012, 01:59:01 AM
Most people opting for Dredd at the cinema will never have seen the Raid.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 22 June, 2012, 02:15:41 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 June, 2012, 09:10:08 PM
Just had a brilliant laugh. Two Mormons came to the door and I had an interesting chat with them for over 10 minutes about God and the world. At the end, to their amazement I invited them in but to watch the trailer  :lol:

Spread the word folks, God is now on our side  ;)

That's Hilarious!

'You've shown me your god, Now meet mine'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 22 June, 2012, 02:21:10 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 22 June, 2012, 01:59:01 AM
Most people opting for Dredd at the cinema will never have seen the Raid.
But some will at least have heard of it:
There's a reason for the adaptation (rebootage/ rehash-ige/prequel/sequel) obsession of today's celluliod output (in comparison to other eras) and it is nothing to do with a lack of originality on behalf of film-makers and has everything to do with a lack of adventurousness on behalf of audiences.

The classic pitch of any new idea has always been to put it in terms of something that's come before "It's like Jaws-meets-starwars " e.t.c.

The 'echo'of something being known,or heard of,  tends to trump the truly raw new thing:'Raid' comparisons may be no bad thing at all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dash Decent on 22 June, 2012, 02:23:11 AM
Quote from: SpetsnaZ99 on 21 June, 2012, 05:33:23 PM

And, Skateboarding still exists.... :o
(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj613/SpetsnaZ991/SKT.png)

Is that big yellow robot face painted on the ramp (extreme right) meant to be Hammerstein?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 22 June, 2012, 02:31:42 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 22 June, 2012, 02:21:10 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 22 June, 2012, 01:59:01 AM
Most people opting for Dredd at the cinema will never have seen the Raid.
But some will at least have heard of it:
There's a reason for the adaptation (rebootage/ rehash-ige/prequel/sequel) obsession of today's celluliod output (in comparison to other eras) and it is nothing to do with a lack of originality on behalf of film-makers and has everything to do with a lack of adventurousness on behalf of audiences.

The classic pitch of any new idea has always been to put it in terms of something that's come before "It's like Jaws-meets-starwars " e.t.c.

The 'echo'of something being known,or heard of,  tends to trump the truly raw new thing:'Raid' comparisons may be no bad thing at all.

Interesting point. Also reassuring, thanks!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 22 June, 2012, 02:50:35 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 June, 2012, 09:10:08 PM
Just had a brilliant laugh. Two Mormons came to the door and I had an interesting chat with them for over 10 minutes about God and the world. At the end, to their amazement I invited them in but to watch the trailer  :lol:
Spread the word folks, God is now on our side  ;)

Any of 'em called Mitt, perchance :D?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 June, 2012, 04:01:13 AM
One was Romanian who sounded American. He learnt English through American teachers and the other was Egyptian but he never said much. I do love a polite debate and I was very polite!

The ending of the fun for me went like this.

CF Hang on a sec lads, its 20:45, I have to get ready for work but let me show you what I believe in.
Mormons Thank you.
CF Just watch this trailer, its the World Premier today of Dredd. Have you heard of Judge Dredd?
Mormons No!
CF Well watch this then!
STUNNED SILENCE
CF  :lol: :lol: :lol: Now that is how the Law of the world should be implemented. Death to all law breakers. I'm sure God would agree with that ;)

I then shuffled them out with a massive grin on my face and a look of bemusement on theirs.
A few pleasantries followed and we said goodbye.

I closed the door and the missus was stood in the kitchen shaking her head and then she said "what are you like!"

JOB DONE  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 22 June, 2012, 04:06:49 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 22 June, 2012, 07:01:01 AM
Quote from: Syne on 22 June, 2012, 01:56:21 AM
I'd bet money that a lot of the people making The Raid comparisons haven't actually seen The Raid: they've seen a trailer, maybe, or read a plot synopsis, or just seen someone else making the same comparison. Hater's gotta hate, but they need ammunition sometimes.

I hope you're right about it proving to be an advantage. This is the first time I've ever followed a trailer's release so closely, so I have no idea how such negativity translates into box office returns.

Me too. Films are magic and they just appear at the pictures, as far as I'm concerned. Following the development of this film has been an eye-opener for me- not least because it's taken me into places like Aint it Cool; places I'd never before visited, and- after September- will never ever go near again.

It's scary how those little fucks live this pish, and seem to enjoy this incredibly dull process more than actually watching the (mostly dull) films they're all obsessing over.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 22 June, 2012, 07:33:54 AM
Good Morning!

So are people shocked at the amount of trolls that turned up yesterday?

I am pretty shocked at the the dozens of rebuttals to obviously snarky comments in places like imdb though. Trolls can't argue with themselves ;)

Also got to remember that many will be too young to see this movie, I think that could be a factor too.

On a plus note, the trailer has 3000 odd likes and 200 odd dislikes, not as unpopular as the haters would have you believe.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 22 June, 2012, 08:11:47 AM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 22 June, 2012, 07:33:54 AM

I am pretty shocked at the the dozens of rebuttals to obviously snarky comments in places like imdb though. Trolls can't argue with themselves ;)


Most of my responses (none on imdb, btw) were more for the benefit of any third party who happened to be reading than for the original poster. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 22 June, 2012, 08:31:33 AM
Quote from: Syne on 22 June, 2012, 01:56:21 AM
I'd bet money that a lot of the people making The Raid comparisons haven't actually seen The Raid: they've seen a trailer, maybe, or read a plot synopsis, or just seen someone else making the same comparison. Hater's gotta hate, but they need ammunition sometimes.

Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 22 June, 2012, 01:56:40 AM
I honestly think that Dredd is going to turn out to be a sleeper hit and Judging by most of the comments I'm seeing elsewhere, people are saying things like ' I guess I like the trailer but I still don't know what to think'.
I translate this as:

'Holy F*ck! that trailer was the shit! (meaning good), I just thought I'd come hear to make a stupid comment about Stallone's the only real Dredd and LAAAAAAAWWW, and this new Remake will suck monkey Balls, But that trailer was so damn good it has me scared and confused. This  isn't The Dark Knight or the Avengers so  I'm afraid of what my fellow Nolan Wheden disciples will say if I do anything but pretend I don't like it.'


Btw, I've seen The Raid and loved it, but its definitely not the Alpha and Omega of all Action movies out there, and in my opinion, to use my adopted phrase of the day, Dredd will SHIT ALL OVER IT!

Dismissing your critics as morons/liars/sheep isn't a good way of proving your point of view. In fact it just makes you look like an irrational fan who refuses to see any argument but their own as valid.

The Raid got good buzz, and was a bit of a sleeper hit in the sort of circles that are going to be watching Dredd in cinemas. I would NOT be dismissing their observations just because it annoys you. And I ESPECIALLY would not assume they are excited about this Trailer as most of us are and are just hidding their excited me due to some kind of herd mentality.

That's a completely mental assumption with no basis on anything real.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 June, 2012, 08:41:34 AM
Hopefully all those who complained about the lack of marketing this far will eat their words now. Lionsgate have found a slow movie news week in a VERY busy summer for genre movies and got far more attention for an underdog, low budget movie than I would have thought possible.

The trailer seems to have been broadly quite well recieved, and I'm delighted to hear extremely positive buzz from the test screening the other night.

There seems a tangible possibility that Dredd could be a modest sleeper hit we've all been hoping for...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 22 June, 2012, 08:58:20 AM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 22 June, 2012, 08:31:33 AM
Dismissing your critics as morons/liars/sheep isn't a good way of proving your point of view. In fact it just makes you look like an irrational fan who refuses to see any argument but their own as valid.

I agree with this as a general principle, but this:

Quote
The Raid got good buzz, and was a bit of a sleeper hit in the sort of circles that are going to be watching Dredd in cinemas. I would NOT be dismissing their observations just because it annoys you.

misses the point in that the 'observation' that "Dredd is a ripoff of The Raid" is at best facile (it has coincidental similarities. so what?) and at worst malicious (it's clearly not plagarism). Try and make them see the error of their ways, sure, but lets not pretend they're offering some kind of profound critical insight.

Quote
And I ESPECIALLY would not assume they are excited about this Trailer as most of us are and are just hidding their excited me due to some kind of herd mentality.

That's a completely mental assumption with no basis on anything real.

Tend to agree with you there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 June, 2012, 09:00:32 AM
At the end of the day, observations of broad, coincidental similarities to other films won't harm the box office (does anyone still call Armageddon a 'rip-off' of Deep Impact - ditto A Bug's Life/Antz) and it's not worth getting your knickers in a twist over.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 22 June, 2012, 09:18:07 AM
I don't think comparisons to the Raid will hurt Dredd .Most people seemed to love the Raid (not seen it myself) so ,in my view, will be more keen to see something they perceive as similar. A lot of people who watched Deep Impact also saw Armageddon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 June, 2012, 09:20:38 AM
they all will see it in September, cos it will be film of the month!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DrRocka on 22 June, 2012, 09:33:46 AM
All I know is, I've been having a fab time laughing at trolls over at IMDB, an obvious tool should be paraded before others with a large sign advertising the fact.
This film looks good, simple as, maybe not to all fans taste but it looks like a fine film. Obvious trolls should be laughed at for the turds they are.
That is all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 22 June, 2012, 10:04:03 AM
Quote from: Dash Decent on 22 June, 2012, 02:23:11 AMIs that big yellow robot face painted on the ramp (extreme right) meant to be Hammerstein?

Nah, looks like it's just a spraycan with a face.

However, I am really hoping for some Chopper / Phantom tags popping up somewhere... Given the lovely touches and nods to creators / fans seen in just the two minute trailer, I guess that there will be 1,001 tiny details included in the film itself.

I can't wait to watch it in Slo Mo! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 22 June, 2012, 10:41:39 AM
I wasn't gonna post again until the film hits, but I just got something I thought might interest you all and shows how long some of us have been wondering about the possibilities of a film being made. In 1985/6 I was
a graphic design guppy up in Aberdeen and my boss (more or less) was Brian Taylor. Yesterday I reminded him of a conversation we had about DREDD and that I recalled he'd suggested they could give an actor a prosthetic chin. Today they could do it seamlessly, like the prosthetics of HITCHCOCK or Meryl Streep in the Thatcher film. Anyway Brian finally concluded our conversation by sending this link today. It's just for kicks and not an example of Brian's wizardry...you can see that at Candykiller and Rustboy below. But what a long conversation that was, jings!
...and it's definitely not a criticism of the direction either, both of us were delighted with the quality of the trailer....Just thought I'd share it guys and gals.
Dredd Chin
http://www.candykiller.com/extras/dredd.jpg

Candykiller
http://www.candykiller.com/
Rustboy
http://www.rustboy.com/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 22 June, 2012, 11:35:01 AM
Quote from: Syne on 22 June, 2012, 08:58:20 AM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 22 June, 2012, 08:31:33 AM
Dismissing your critics as morons/liars/sheep isn't a good way of proving your point of view. In fact it just makes you look like an irrational fan who refuses to see any argument but their own as valid.

I agree with this as a general principle, but this:

Quote
The Raid got good buzz, and was a bit of a sleeper hit in the sort of circles that are going to be watching Dredd in cinemas. I would NOT be dismissing their observations just because it annoys you.

misses the point in that the 'observation' that "Dredd is a ripoff of The Raid" is at best facile (it has coincidental similarities. so what?) and at worst  ::)malicious (it's clearly not plagarism). Try and make them see the error of their ways, sure, but lets not pretend they're offering some kind of profound critical insight.

Quote
And I ESPECIALLY would not assume they are excited about this Trailer as most of us are and are just hidding their excited me due to some kind of herd mentality.

That's a completely mental assumption with no basis on anything real.

Tend to agree with you there.



I did not dismiss anyone's comments, most of the negativity comes from lack of awareness, just pointing out the thought processes of a good section of commenters on sites such as aicn. But to say that there is not some element of herd mentality is wrong in my opinion. Sense of humour is sometimes hard  to come across in a post but,  my previous comment was in fact SATIRE.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 June, 2012, 11:54:36 AM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 22 June, 2012, 11:35:01 AM

I did not dismiss anyone's comments, most of the negativity comes from lack of awareness, just pointing out the thought processes of a good section of commenters on sites such as aicn. But to say that there is not some element of herd mentality is wrong in my opinion. Sense of humour is sometimes hard  to come across in a post but,  my previous comment was in fact SATIRE.


AICN is almost engineered for this stuff to happen; even the structure of the comment threads make it hard to communicate anything other than reflex reactions.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 22 June, 2012, 02:58:18 PM
Just discovered the company a floor up from Family Guy is doing all the US advertising materials for Dredd...! Haha! My buddy went up and saw a pile of Dredd posters and just gasped "Uh... what's this now?" I foresee some Dredd posters in my future...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 June, 2012, 03:35:34 PM
He should of stolen one!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 22 June, 2012, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 22 June, 2012, 10:41:39 AM
I wasn't gonna post again until the film hits, but I just got something I thought might interest you all and shows how long some of us have been wondering about the possibilities of a film being made. In 1985/6 I was
a graphic design guppy up in Aberdeen and my boss (more or less) was Brian Taylor. Yesterday I reminded him of a conversation we had about DREDD and that I recalled he'd suggested they could give an actor a prosthetic chin. Today they could do it seamlessly, like the prosthetics of HITCHCOCK or Meryl Streep in the Thatcher film. Anyway Brian finally concluded our conversation by sending this link today. It's just for kicks and not an example of Brian's wizardry...you can see that at Candykiller and Rustboy below. But what a long conversation that was, jings!
...and it's definitely not a criticism of the direction either, both of us were delighted with the quality of the trailer....Just thought I'd share it guys and gals.
Dredd Chin
http://www.candykiller.com/extras/dredd.jpg

Candykiller
http://www.candykiller.com/
Rustboy
http://www.rustboy.com/

Is Brian's real name Scott?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 22 June, 2012, 03:45:44 PM
I must say that the enlarged chin looks a bit down syndromey on Karl..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 22 June, 2012, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 22 June, 2012, 10:41:39 AM
...and it's definitely not a criticism of the direction either, both of us were delighted with the quality of the trailer....Just thought I'd share it guys and gals.
Dredd Chin
http://www.candykiller.com/extras/dredd.jpg

(http://www.candykiller.com/extras/dredd.jpg)

I haven't seen that image before... Where's it from? I only ask because I just mentioned (in the trailer thread) how in one shot his shoulder pad is very gold. It is here, also.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 22 June, 2012, 03:55:01 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 22 June, 2012, 11:54:36 AM
AICN is almost engineered for this stuff to happen; even the structure of the comment threads make it hard to communicate anything other than reflex reactions.

Yeah, I read through the AICN talkback, too. After the first half dozen or so posts I was annoyed and resolved to reply to some their idiotic, wrong-headed statements. By the time I reached the end, I thought "What's the point?". There were just too many nonsensical just plain stupid comments that I didn't know where to begin.

And don't get me started on "coolfan123"...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 22 June, 2012, 03:55:26 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 22 June, 2012, 02:58:18 PM
I foresee some Dredd posters in my future...

Might make up for the lack of preview screening
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 22 June, 2012, 03:55:56 PM
I didn't know what phrase to use for fear of upsetting someone.However, (and I apologise profusely in advance), the only one that was apt enough was that the chin looked like the face we pulled at school when describing someone as a "Joey"(as in Joey Deacon.) :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 22 June, 2012, 03:56:57 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 22 June, 2012, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 22 June, 2012, 10:41:39 AM
I wasn't gonna post again until the film hits, but I just got something I thought might interest you all and shows how long some of us have been wondering about the possibilities of a film being made. In 1985/6 I was
a graphic design guppy up in Aberdeen and my boss (more or less) was Brian Taylor. Yesterday I reminded him of a conversation we had about DREDD and that I recalled he'd suggested they could give an actor a prosthetic chin. Today they could do it seamlessly, like the prosthetics of HITCHCOCK or Meryl Streep in the Thatcher film. Anyway Brian finally concluded our conversation by sending this link today. It's just for kicks and not an example of Brian's wizardry...you can see that at Candykiller and Rustboy below. But what a long conversation that was, jings!
...and it's definitely not a criticism of the direction either, both of us were delighted with the quality of the trailer....Just thought I'd share it guys and gals.
Dredd Chin
http://www.candykiller.com/extras/dredd.jpg

Candykiller
http://www.candykiller.com/
Rustboy
http://www.rustboy.com/

Is Brian's real name Scott?
No. I don't think he's ever used any pseudonyms either. How so?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 22 June, 2012, 03:58:36 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 22 June, 2012, 03:55:56 PM
I didn't know what phrase to use for fear of upsetting someone.However, (and I apologise profusely in advance), the only one that was apt enough was that the chin looked like the face we pulled at school when describing someone as a "Joey"(as in Joey Deacon.) :-[
That was a craze from lands end to John o groats...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 22 June, 2012, 04:02:14 PM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 22 June, 2012, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 22 June, 2012, 10:41:39 AM
...and it's definitely not a criticism of the direction either, both of us were delighted with the quality of the trailer....Just thought I'd share it guys and gals.
Dredd Chin
http://www.candykiller.com/extras/dredd.jpg

(http://www.candykiller.com/extras/dredd.jpg)

I haven't seen that image before... Where's it from? I only ask because I just mentioned (in the trailer thread)

how in one shot his shoulder pad is very gold. It is here, also.

I think that was from entertainment weekly. The goldie you posted looks like a test, pre-distressing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 22 June, 2012, 05:17:19 PM
Just been reading through the comments on some of the links pointing towards the trailer news.. And it's incredible how much damage to the character the Stallone version has done, and how many people associate Dredd with Stallone as well as thinking it was a character created for the movie, not the other way round..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 June, 2012, 05:24:23 PM
QuoteJust been reading through the comments on some of the links pointing towards the trailer news.. And it's incredible how much damage to the character the Stallone version has done, and how many people associate Dredd with Stallone as well as thinking it was a character created for the movie, not the other way round..

That's not all. It's unthinkable now, but after the clusterfuck that was the Stallone movie, Judge Dredd was relegated to the back pages of the comic for six months or so (Dredd had always been the first strip in 2000ad since it went full colour), the 'Featuring Judge Dredd' coverline was scrapped and the character was allegedly so unpopular within 2000ad's then parent company he was almost dropped or rested from the comic entirely. It also pretty much killed any and all attempts to spin off further 2000ad properties into films until now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 22 June, 2012, 05:27:19 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 22 June, 2012, 05:17:19 PM
Just been reading through the comments on some of the links pointing towards the trailer news.. And it's incredible how much damage to the character the Stallone version has done, and how many people associate Dredd with Stallone as well as thinking it was a character created for the movie, not the other way round..
Very sad. But to be expected, Dredd has always been a bit ...well...cult. I knew 3 people that knew it when I was reading it as a lad. The Stallone disaster was the first most had heard of it. Let's hope this film rights things.

And people wonder why Alan Moore disassociates himself with films based on his books...2000AD should have done that with Stallone - although it would have made no difference, I guess.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 22 June, 2012, 05:36:02 PM
With regards to the prosthetic chin debate, . . . mould this beauty for DREDD2!  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 22 June, 2012, 05:45:41 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 22 June, 2012, 05:27:19 PM
And people wonder why Alan Moore disassociates himself with films based on his books...2000AD should have done that with Stallone - although it would have made no difference, I guess.

If Judge Dredd had been a creator-owned property, Wagner would have nixed that project at the first draft screenplay stage, rather than having to wait until shooting started until he had the opportunity to tell Danny Cannon he was "shooting the wrong fucking script".

If Mills and Wagner's unsuccessful bid to buy out 2000ad from IPC had been successful, the man who created Dredd might have been able to exert the same influence over the film adapatations of his work as JK Rowling did over the Potter books.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 22 June, 2012, 05:46:45 PM
It's been 17 years since that film. I think the majority of people either won't have seen the Stallone version or even be too aware of it to be frank.

The internet is filled with people in their 30s killing time at work.  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 22 June, 2012, 06:01:59 PM
Not sure if this has been postd already but there's a really good piece on the trailer from the Guardian...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2012/jun/22/judge-dredd-remake-karl-urban (http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2012/jun/22/judge-dredd-remake-karl-urban)

Proepr creator credits, calling it a reboot (though the headline says remake!?)... this guy at least has done his research. Have to agree with this bit too...

QuoteWhat we do appear to have is the sort of storyline that might have been wrapped up in a single episode of the strip, rather than one of the more epic tales that spread over several issues. Urban does an impressive, and entirely appropriate, Clint Eastwood impression as Dredd (Wagner and Ezquerra were thinking of Dirty Harry when they came up with the character), and Travis seems to have been reading the Zack Snyder guide to epic slo-mo.

For me, this Dredd has the look of a slightly po-faced take on Mega-City One – one conceived in 2008, when Christopher Nolan's stern and visceral The Dark Knight had driven all before it at the global box office – when a bit of big, brash and bold Paul Verhoeven-style razzmatazz might have been more in order.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 22 June, 2012, 06:18:16 PM
QuoteNo. I don't think he's ever used any pseudonyms either. How so?

Our resident troll Sc*j* has a habit of doing photoshop pictures like this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 22 June, 2012, 06:29:48 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 22 June, 2012, 05:36:02 PM
With regards to the prosthetic chin debate, . . . mould this beauty for DREDD2!  :o

Youve been thumbing through my facebook profile and whipped a pic of my mum!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 22 June, 2012, 07:04:24 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 22 June, 2012, 06:29:48 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 22 June, 2012, 05:36:02 PM
With regards to the prosthetic chin debate, . . . mould this beauty for DREDD2!  :o

Youve been thumbing through my facebook profile and whipped a pic of my mum!

She's gorgeous, ... got her number?! :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 22 June, 2012, 07:50:33 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 22 June, 2012, 06:18:16 PM
QuoteNo. I don't think he's ever used any pseudonyms either. How so?

Our resident troll Sc*j* has a habit of doing photoshop pictures like this.
Oh...you know it dawned on me over dinner that this might be the point you were making. Nope. Didn't intend 2 trip wires by posting a shopped image, I'm new to the problems that troll twat has caused. Check the links I posted, you might know BT's wrk in animation etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 22 June, 2012, 07:52:36 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 22 June, 2012, 05:36:02 PM
With regards to the prosthetic chin debate, . . . mould this beauty for DREDD2!  :o
I'm mixing up some plaster now! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 22 June, 2012, 08:02:51 PM
I would love to know what Stallone's reaction/verdict is on the uncoming film.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 June, 2012, 08:09:55 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 22 June, 2012, 08:02:51 PM
I would love to know what Stallone's reaction/verdict is on the uncoming film.




V

Hopefully supportive, I think I read somewhere he said he regretted what a mess the film was.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 22 June, 2012, 08:31:46 PM
Now an AV Club mention :: http://www.avclub.com/articles/dredd,81709/ (http://www.avclub.com/articles/dredd,81709/)

It makes The Raid comparison again but quantifies it by saying Dredd was done first and was just beaten to the line schedule-wise.

Looks like the trailer got a pretty good response overall and was featured on a hell of a lot of the mainstream media sites.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 22 June, 2012, 09:41:16 PM
One of the commentators somewhere said (un-ironically, I think) that they should have cast Billy Bob Thornton for his chin. While my initial reaction was "????!!!" they actually kinda have a point: he has the strong chin and pouty lips of an early Ezquerra or McMahon Dredd.

(http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/billy-bob-thornton/billy-bob-thornton-20040405-70.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 22 June, 2012, 09:45:37 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 June, 2012, 08:09:55 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 22 June, 2012, 08:02:51 PM
I would love to know what Stallone's reaction/verdict is on the uncoming film.




V

Hopefully supportive, I think I read somewhere he said he regretted what a mess the film was.

Meh.. He made his money...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 22 June, 2012, 09:50:56 PM

Quote
Oh...you know it dawned on me over dinner that this might be the point you were making. Nope. Didn't intend 2 trip wires by posting a shopped image, I'm new to the problems that troll twat has caused. Check the links I posted, you might know BT's wrk in animation etc.

I was only kidding.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 June, 2012, 09:58:36 PM
[spoiler]Stallone Dredd fee: $15 million.[/spoiler] I'm sure he regrets the mess he made of a great character.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 23 June, 2012, 12:21:25 AM
As some who followed Transformers through development hell to the eventual release I learned to avoid AICN and IMDb like the plague. Unless I was trolling. Maybe I should've warned people.

Posting on IMDb is a particularly fruitless endeavour though.

Quote from: Michaelvk on 22 June, 2012, 05:17:19 PM
Just been reading through the comments on some of the links pointing towards the trailer news.. And it's incredible how much damage to the character the Stallone version has done, and how many people associate Dredd with Stallone as well as thinking it was a character created for the movie, not the other way round..

A Yank friend, and non-Dredd fan, suggested to me that the whole Stallone thing may be a two-edged sword as far as the American audience goes. I mean at least they now know who Dredd is to even make the comparison. I reckon he may be on to something.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 June, 2012, 01:24:44 AM
Karl Urban looks fab as Dredd!


I know you says many people with chins looks good as Dredd, as I did from first day with this Saul Tigh chin;

(http://www.battlestarhelios.com/rpg_galactica/assets/images/characters/colsaultigh.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 23 June, 2012, 01:29:42 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 23 June, 2012, 01:24:44 AM
Karl Urban looks fab as Dredd!


I know you says many people with chins looks good as Dredd, as I did from first day with this Saul Tigh chin;

(http://www.battlestarhelios.com/rpg_galactica/assets/images/characters/colsaultigh.jpg)

Not bad. I agree though, Karl Urban looks great. The character is about more than just a big chin, or a big shoulder eagle, or a bike with massive wheels.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 June, 2012, 01:31:34 AM
He is old Dredd.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isB-3YDj4yc
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 23 June, 2012, 01:44:22 AM
Id have him play Chief Judge Griffin though he would have to don a syrup.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 23 June, 2012, 01:51:42 AM
Quote from: bikini kill on 22 June, 2012, 05:45:41 PM
If Judge Dredd had been a creator-owned property, Wagner would have nixed that project at the first draft screenplay stage, rather than having to wait until shooting started until he had the opportunity to tell Danny Cannon he was "shooting the wrong fucking script".

Not defending the Stallone debacle, but John Wagner and Alan Grant were commissioned by Ed Pressman to write a treatment for the movie in late 1991, which they spent six weeks on, only to demand payment upfront for it, which was totally ridiculous, you did not get paid upfront for a mere story outline treatment in 1991/2 unless you're name was Shane Black, Michael Crichton, or Joe Ezsterhas, and Wagner and Grant should have been aware of that fact, and because they wouldn't back down over payment, that treatment didn't go any further in the development process, alas...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 23 June, 2012, 02:12:38 AM
John and Alan are writers and justifiably asked to be paid to do their job.
They stuck to their principles.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 23 June, 2012, 02:14:00 AM
Quote from: W. R. Logan on 23 June, 2012, 02:12:38 AM
John and Alan are writers and justifiably asked to be paid to do their job.
They stuck to their principles.

I understand that, but the comics industry was not the movies industry, period.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 June, 2012, 02:25:03 AM
Why should professional writers work for free?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 23 June, 2012, 02:32:43 AM
As far as I'm aware, there are no rules governing the operation of Hollywood studios. If they want something badly enough, they'll pay through the nose for it- and they have absolutely no compunction concerning ripping off other peoples' ideas.

Wagner and Grant have a long history of watching others making money off the back of their work, and it's not as if they had any lofty artistic ambitions in writing a treatment for a Stallone action film- the only point in accepting that gig would be the paycheck.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 23 June, 2012, 02:49:37 AM
Quote from: bikini kill on 23 June, 2012, 02:32:43 AM
As far as I'm aware, there are no rules governing the operation of Hollywood studios. If they want something badly enough, they'll pay through the nose for it

True, but that is usually when a bidding war breaks out over a particular script, not for a mere commissioned outline by two comic writers who had never written a film before, I'm not demeaning Wagner and Grant's talents and/or efforts, just pointing out how the movie industry tended to work...

Quote from: bikini kill on 23 June, 2012, 02:32:43 AM
Wagner and Grant have a long history of watching others making money off the back of their work, and it's not as if they had any lofty artistic ambitions in writing a treatment for a Stallone action film- the only point in accepting that gig would be the paycheck.

Or the knowledge that at least the script for a JD movie would be penned by people who actually knew and understood the source material...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 23 June, 2012, 03:32:05 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 23 June, 2012, 02:49:37 AM
Quote from: bikini kill on 23 June, 2012, 02:32:43 AM
Wagner and Grant have a long history of watching others making money off the back of their work, and it's not as if they had any lofty artistic ambitions in writing a treatment for a Stallone action film- the only point in accepting that gig would be the paycheck.

Or the knowledge that at least the script for a JD movie would be penned by people who actually knew and understood the source material...

My argument is that an action film starring Stallone in the mid-Nineties was never going to be anything other than a reductively crass star vehicle- look at his other films to date.

Since nothing Wagner and Grant could write was capable of bomb-proofing their baby from destructive effects of the star's ego and formulaic film making, the only point in penning the script for something like that would be the pay day.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 23 June, 2012, 05:09:40 AM
Quote from: bikini kill on 23 June, 2012, 03:32:05 AM
My argument is that an action film starring Stallone in the mid-Nineties was never going to be anything other than a reductively crass star vehicle- look at his other films to date.  Since nothing Wagner and Grant could write was capable of bomb-proofing their baby from destructive effects of the star's ego and formulaic film making, the only point in penning the script for something like that would be the pay day.

And on that, I have absolutely no rebuttal, you are (unfortunately) completely correct, sad but true (in terms of what the film could/should have been, that is)...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 23 June, 2012, 06:37:36 AM
It doesn't have to be one or the other. Perfectly plausible to have the 95 version for young, young children. And the more hip up to date version for the the elder generations. So far, so good?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 23 June, 2012, 06:43:31 AM
Quote from: George Dread on 23 June, 2012, 06:37:36 AM
It doesn't have to be one or the other. Perfectly plausible to have the 95 version for young, blind, deaf children. And the more hip up to date version for the the elder generations. So far, so good?

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 23 June, 2012, 06:46:55 AM
Hey!

" What's up with Dredd the funny fascist? He's about to be eaten by the massive, cannibal, psychotic bad man."

Kids love that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 23 June, 2012, 07:49:50 AM
I think this film will do more than well in the rest of the world than the states. The US is stilla massive market but so now is Europe and Asia,Russia,Oz etc...and I think they have a better chanc of acepting this new Dredd over Sly more than the yanks.
And the lawmaster,my last reservation.....*holds hand up* my favouritest bit of the trailer,as a biker that is pure porn to me,unsure at first now i want to lick it exhaust pipes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 23 June, 2012, 08:05:20 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 23 June, 2012, 07:49:50 AM
I think this film will do more than well in the rest of the world than the states. The US is stilla massive market but so now is Europe and Asia,Russia,Oz etc...and I think they have a better chanc of acepting this new Dredd over Sly more than the yanks.
And the lawmaster,my last reservation.....*holds hand up* my favouritest bit of the trailer,as a biker that is pure porn to me,unsure at first now i want to lick it exhaust pipes.
I'm thinking of that list of prices that used to be on the cover...the various currencies of the world. DREDD has fans in all those places. And it'll do well in the US because of the comic-con crowd. Seems comics are now cool in a way they never used to be. Then theirs Karl Urban's many female fans. This film will do very very  well I think. I'm planning to see it twice on day one if possible.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 23 June, 2012, 08:20:04 AM
Quote from: Syne on 22 June, 2012, 09:41:16 PM
One of the commentators somewhere said (un-ironically, I think) that they should have cast Billy Bob Thornton for his chin. While my initial reaction was "????!!!" they actually kinda have a point: he has the strong chin and pouty lips of an early Ezquerra or McMahon Dredd.

(http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/billy-bob-thornton/billy-bob-thornton-20040405-70.jpg)
Good actor...but boy would I hate Thornton as a choice. I firmly believe Urban is the best possible choice today. Terrific  actor, not a primadonna megastar...great at physical scenes, fights, weapons...he's lean, not a muscle-head. He is something of a chameleon.

But if Carlos Ezquerra were directing a Dredd I think we'd need a dubbed Danny Trejo. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 23 June, 2012, 08:21:56 AM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 22 June, 2012, 09:50:56 PM

Quote
Oh...you know it dawned on me over dinner that this might be the point you were making. Nope. Didn't intend 2 trip wires by posting a shopped image, I'm new to the problems that troll twat has caused. Check the links I posted, you might know BT's wrk in animation etc.

I was only kidding.
:)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 23 June, 2012, 08:24:45 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 22 June, 2012, 09:58:36 PM
[spoiler]Stallone Dredd fee: $15 million.[/spoiler] I'm sure he regrets the mess he made of a great character.
His 30 pieces of silver.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 23 June, 2012, 08:28:29 AM
Quote from: bikini kill on 22 June, 2012, 05:45:41 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 22 June, 2012, 05:27:19 PM
And people wonder why Alan Moore disassociates himself with films based on his books...2000AD should have done that with Stallone - although it would have made no difference, I guess.

If Judge Dredd had been a creator-owned property, Wagner would have nixed that project at the first draft screenplay stage, rather than having to wait until shooting started until he had the opportunity to tell Danny Cannon he was "shooting the wrong fucking script".

If Mills and Wagner's unsuccessful bid to buy out 2000ad from IPC had been successful, the man who created Dredd might have been able to exert the same influence over the film adapatations of his work as JK Rowling did over the Potter books.
Huh...hadn't thought about it that way or heard that story.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Strontium Claw on 23 June, 2012, 10:36:21 AM
Quote from: Beaky SmoochiesNot defending the Stallone debacle, but John Wagner and Alan Grant were commissioned by Ed Pressman to write a treatment for the movie in late 1991, which they spent six weeks on, only to demand payment upfront for it, which was totally ridiculous, you did not get paid upfront for a mere story outline treatment in 1991/2 unless you're name was Shane Black, Michael Crichton, or Joe Ezsterhas, and Wagner and Grant should have been aware of that fact, and because they wouldn't back down over payment, that treatment didn't go any further in the development process, alas...

Hmmm....

Harlan Ellison - PAY THE WRITER http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 23 June, 2012, 11:12:20 AM
Quote from: Strontium Claw on 23 June, 2012, 10:36:21 AM
Quote from: Beaky SmoochiesNot defending the Stallone debacle, but John Wagner and Alan Grant were commissioned by Ed Pressman to write a treatment for the movie in late 1991, which they spent six weeks on, only to demand payment upfront for it, which was totally ridiculous, you did not get paid upfront for a mere story outline treatment in 1991/2 unless you're name was Shane Black, Michael Crichton, or Joe Ezsterhas, and Wagner and Grant should have been aware of that fact, and because they wouldn't back down over payment, that treatment didn't go any further in the development process, alas...

Hmmm....

Harlan Ellison - PAY THE WRITER http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE)

Heh... That's an awesome rant.. But true, and not just limited to writers, which is why these days I've become somewhat of a mercenary. Done one too many jobs for 'contacts' or 'my portfolio' that in fact only ended up furthering other peoples careers leaving me exactly where I was.. Well, frankly, screw that, and good for Wagner and Grant.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 23 June, 2012, 05:15:17 PM
Not that I generally pay much attention to what I stumble across on the Interweb but I just saw that Dredd's getting a very favourable rating on Rotten Tomatoes, in terms of people saying they want to see it (96% of 1,000-odd so far).

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 23 June, 2012, 05:53:40 PM
This might actually become a sleeper hit, as someone mentioned earlier..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 23 June, 2012, 07:15:40 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 23 June, 2012, 11:12:20 AM
Quote from: Strontium Claw on 23 June, 2012, 10:36:21 AM
Quote from: Beaky SmoochiesNot defending the Stallone debacle, but John Wagner and Alan Grant were commissioned by Ed Pressman to write a treatment for the movie in late 1991, which they spent six weeks on, only to demand payment upfront for it, which was totally ridiculous, you did not get paid upfront for a mere story outline treatment in 1991/2 unless you're name was Shane Black, Michael Crichton, or Joe Ezsterhas, and Wagner and Grant should have been aware of that fact, and because they wouldn't back down over payment, that treatment didn't go any further in the development process, alas...

Hmmm....

Harlan Ellison - PAY THE WRITER http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE)

Heh... That's an awesome rant.. But true, and not just limited to writers, which is why these days I've become somewhat of a mercenary. Done one too many jobs for 'contacts' or 'my portfolio' that in fact only ended up furthering other peoples careers leaving me exactly where I was.. Well, frankly, screw that, and good for Wagner and Grant.
I couldn't agree more. In many cases, not all, when you are told something is a good opportunity...it's really only an opportunity for them to get something for nothing from you. Look for the clip with Elison and Robin Williams...amazing insight into the motivations of L Ron Hubbard.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 23 June, 2012, 08:08:44 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 23 June, 2012, 05:53:40 PM
This might actually become a sleeper hit, as someone mentioned earlier..

I think it will be, the trailer has made it look great but I can see how non Judge Dredd fans may not be completely sold, but I think once people see it they will be even more impressed and word of mouth will ensue.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 23 June, 2012, 08:36:10 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 21 June, 2012, 10:03:38 PM
Saw this comment posted at Screen Rant

"I have seen a sneak preview of this film and rest assured it is INCREDIBLE. The violence is grisly and absurd, the 'slo-mo' effects are not overused but ARE gorgeous and truly astonishing to see in native 3D (not post-converted). Urban's DREDD is likeable but stoic, and the action set pieces do not disappoint. Forget about trying to figure out how much this movie has in common with Stallone's film (answer: nothing... like comparing Adam West's Batman to Nolan's), or trying to decipher the script's quality from this brief trailer. Just go see it and grin the entire time."

Just thought I'd quote this again since its the closest thing we've seen to an impartial review so far.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 23 June, 2012, 08:41:01 PM
I've seen this reference to a 'stoic but likable' DREDD more than once, either the same poster or its a crib sheet response by the studio.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 June, 2012, 08:42:34 PM
Sounds about right though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 23 June, 2012, 08:51:08 PM
Has anyone noted the similarity between the vases in the misty head room of Prometheus and the first shot of MC1 and the blocks in the mist in the trailer?...Is this why the one block is called Prometheus? Thoughts?

Prometheus
http://www.prometheus-movie.com/news/193
DREDD TRAILER  Pause at 16 seconds...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PifvRiHVSCY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 23 June, 2012, 08:53:45 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 23 June, 2012, 08:08:44 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 23 June, 2012, 05:53:40 PM
This might actually become a sleeper hit, as someone mentioned earlier..

I think it will be, the trailer has made it look great but I can see how non Judge Dredd fans may not be completely sold, but I think once people see it they will be even more impressed and word of mouth will ensue.

Yeah, I think (hope) word of mouth will persuade a lot of people to give this a go.  At least, from where I'm sitting, the visual effects and native 3D seem to offer something quite interesting, and if they're handled as well as we've been led to believe, it's the kind of thing people will yap about.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 23 June, 2012, 09:24:09 PM
I see Die Hard's on E4 tonight. I better brush up seeing as it's a direct rip-off of The Raid/Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 23 June, 2012, 09:37:16 PM
Trolling the Superherohype thread though, the response was a little better than I expected. One person did bring up a point that kind of baffled me.[spoiler] Did they really need to end the trailer with whatsherface being thrown through a window? That just seemed a little odd. Assuming it was her.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 23 June, 2012, 09:48:46 PM
Er...maybe I read the scene wrong..  :lol:

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/21/article-2162731-13B8D005000005DC-673_634x313.jpg)
Life's a pane: Dredd is seen throwing himself backwards through a window, with glass shattering around him

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2162731/Judge-Dredd-gets-action-packed-reboot-new-film-trailer-debuts-Karl-Urban-comic-book-hero.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 23 June, 2012, 10:01:15 PM
hahaha he's not throwing himself out of a window, dailymail.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 23 June, 2012, 10:18:57 PM
Quote from: wadew1 on 23 June, 2012, 10:01:15 PM
hahaha he's not throwing himself out of a window, dailymail.

Quite possibly one of the biggest fails I've ever read. Epic.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 23 June, 2012, 10:20:28 PM
Hahaha!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 23 June, 2012, 10:21:32 PM
I've not read the script..[spoiler]but have they seriously put the ending of the film at the end of this trailer?![/spoiler]

I'll be seriously pissed off if they have
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 23 June, 2012, 10:24:07 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 23 June, 2012, 10:21:32 PM
I've not read the script..[spoiler]but have they seriously put the ending of the film at the end of this trailer?![/spoiler]

I'll be seriously pissed off if they have

[spoiler]Slightly stupid of them I must admit, but then again we always knew Dredd would win.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 June, 2012, 10:26:50 PM
It's not really the end, the Apocalypse War follows it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 23 June, 2012, 10:36:51 PM
Quote from: Stan on 23 June, 2012, 09:48:46 PM
Er...maybe I read the scene wrong..  :lol:

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/21/article-2162731-13B8D005000005DC-673_634x313.jpg)
Life's a pane: Dredd is seen throwing himself backwards through a window, with glass shattering around him

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2162731/Judge-Dredd-gets-action-packed-reboot-new-film-trailer-debuts-Karl-Urban-comic-book-hero.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

He's clearly waving goodbye before hopping out backwards to go pick up some synthi-gum. Clearly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 23 June, 2012, 10:47:15 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 23 June, 2012, 10:24:07 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 23 June, 2012, 10:21:32 PM
I've not read the script..[spoiler]but have they seriously put the ending of the film at the end of this trailer?![/spoiler]

I'll be seriously pissed off if they have

[spoiler]Slightly stupid of them I must admit, but then again we always knew Dredd would win.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Is it really the end?

Who the f*ck puts the end of a film in a trailer?

Seriously..who?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 June, 2012, 10:50:31 PM
Everyone.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 23 June, 2012, 10:52:04 PM
Royally f*cked off
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 23 June, 2012, 10:56:14 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 23 June, 2012, 10:47:15 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 23 June, 2012, 10:24:07 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 23 June, 2012, 10:21:32 PM
I've not read the script..but have they seriously put the ending of the film at the end of this trailer?!

I'll be seriously pissed off if they have

Slightly stupid of them I must admit, but then again we always knew Dredd would win.

Is it really the end?

Who the f*ck puts the end of a film in a trailer?

Seriously..who?

The Journey is the best part, not the destination.

Pretty much all Trailers  do this same thing and always did. The best ones for me are ones such as:

http://youtu.be/ouZkkIsLiNg (http://youtu.be/ouZkkIsLiNg)

That raise more questions than they answer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 23 June, 2012, 10:59:37 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 23 June, 2012, 10:56:14 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 23 June, 2012, 10:47:15 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 23 June, 2012, 10:24:07 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 23 June, 2012, 10:21:32 PM
I've not read the script..but have they seriously put the ending of the film at the end of this trailer?!

I'll be seriously pissed off if they have

Slightly stupid of them I must admit, but then again we always knew Dredd would win.

Is it really the end?

Who the f*ck puts the end of a film in a trailer?

Seriously..who?

The Journey is the best part, not the destination.

Pretty much all Trailers  do this same thing and always did. The best ones for me are ones such as:

http://youtu.be/ouZkkIsLiNg (http://youtu.be/ouZkkIsLiNg)

That raise more questions than they answer.

I'd like to know how 'pretty much all' trailers show how the leading villain gets killed
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on 23 June, 2012, 11:05:07 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2162731/Judge-Dredd-gets-action-packed-reboot-new-film-trailer-debuts-Karl-Urban-comic-book-hero.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

How drunk was the chick who wrote this?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 23 June, 2012, 11:07:17 PM
Not having read the script, I wouldn't have known the trailer shows that if people hadn't started pointing it out. It's just one split second of action amongst many.

Though for the record I don't mind either way.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 23 June, 2012, 11:07:47 PM

QuoteI'd like to know how 'pretty much all' trailers show how the leading villain gets killed

http://youtu.be/isQfSdTVpw0 (http://youtu.be/isQfSdTVpw0) :

Recent example that gives the game away

http://youtu.be/bEVY_lonKf4 (http://youtu.be/bEVY_lonKf4) :

This one is the film from beginning to end.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 23 June, 2012, 11:14:47 PM
Quote from: Dirty Sanchez on 23 June, 2012, 11:05:07 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2162731/Judge-Dredd-gets-action-packed-reboot-new-film-trailer-debuts-Karl-Urban-comic-book-hero.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

How drunk was the chick who wrote this?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

That reminds me of back at school: we'd get assignments to write a movie review and there's always be kids who'd laboriously regurgitate the entire plot of the movie, action by action:

"and then the robo-cop walked over to the bad man, and the bad man said "you're gonna die cop" and he pulled out a gun and there was shooting and the robo-cop was all dented, but then the lady-cop came. . ."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 23 June, 2012, 11:18:59 PM
Man, the freakin' photo captions on that Daily Mail article:

QuoteHalf of the actor's grim-looking face is seen underneath Dredd's famous helmet.

Thanks, I really didn't understand what I was looking at there, the colours and shapes confused me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 23 June, 2012, 11:21:37 PM
QuoteHalf of the actor's grim-looking face is seen underneath Dredd's famous helmet.

How can we see his face if it is underneath his helmet?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 23 June, 2012, 11:25:44 PM
Quote from: Syne on 23 June, 2012, 10:36:51 PM
Quote from: Stan on 23 June, 2012, 09:48:46 PM
Er...maybe I read the scene wrong..  :lol:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/21/article-2162731-13B8D005000005DC-673_634x313.jpg
Life's a pane: Dredd is seen throwing himself backwards through a window, with glass shattering around him

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2162731/Judge-Dredd-gets-action-packed-reboot-new-film-trailer-debuts-Karl-Urban-comic-book-hero.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

He's clearly waving goodbye before hopping out backwards to go pick up some synthi-gum. Clearly.

Aaaah, kinda like Iron Man. Now I'm seeing it. I'm pretty sure it's illegal to swan dive through a 200th floor window though, regardless of what Stallone says.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 23 June, 2012, 11:27:53 PM
Quote from: Stan on 23 June, 2012, 09:48:46 PM
Er...maybe I read the scene wrong..  :lol:

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/21/article-2162731-13B8D005000005DC-673_634x313.jpg)
Life's a pane: Dredd is seen throwing himself backwards through a window, with glass shattering around him

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2162731/Judge-Dredd-gets-action-packed-reboot-new-film-trailer-debuts-Karl-Urban-comic-book-hero.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

yippee-ka-yay...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 June, 2012, 11:50:58 PM
Oh I am bit many drinks tonight, as got home when been to friends's BBQ party all day, yes, they are all Deafies, (Deaf people) I show many of them the Dredd new trailer on my iPhone! Yes one of them did say, that looks like replace that Rocky guy film! but that was opening of the trailer, they got woooo by the dark and actions in the trailer, they will want see it in September, I done my job but with too many drinks from it at end, only a little price, but Deafies will like see it at cinema in September!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 24 June, 2012, 12:00:04 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 23 June, 2012, 11:27:53 PM
yippee-ka-yay...

I'm still waiting to see if E4 cut it.

On the Goaty note, I bought a couple of 'Origins' for foreign friends and assume Rebellion or someone will reimburse me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 24 June, 2012, 12:19:47 AM
My Facebook trailer post had a "like" from a woman in Iran, I wonder if it's even going to get distributed there. . .

Good job with spreading the word guys :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 24 June, 2012, 01:08:35 PM
A tad early, but what-the-hey...
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-G40CBqF42J8/T-cCXuwBdiI/AAAAAAAAB_U/tQ_Ryq7jrlc/s400/chrismascard.JPG)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 24 June, 2012, 01:15:25 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 23 June, 2012, 11:50:58 PM
Oh I am bit many drinks tonight, as got home when been to friends's BBQ party all day, yes, they are all Deafies, (Deaf people) I show many of them the Dredd new trailer on my iPhone! Yes one of them did say, that looks like replace that Rocky guy film! but that was opening of the trailer, they got woooo by the dark and actions in the trailer, they will want see it in September, I done my job but with too many drinks from it at end, only a little price, but Deafies will like see it at cinema in September!

Are there many subtitled showings of films where you are from Goaty ?

My wife is deaf - there is only about one or two films a month with the subtitles, usually during the day ;-(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 June, 2012, 01:22:16 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 24 June, 2012, 01:15:25 PM

Are there many subtitled showings of films where you are from Goaty ?

My wife is deaf - there is only about one or two films a month with the subtitles, usually during the day ;-(

Yes there is 5 cinemas in North-East shows subtitled films every week, you can check your location in this;

http://www.yourlocalcinema.com/locations.html (http://www.yourlocalcinema.com/locations.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 24 June, 2012, 01:39:06 PM
Ah, yes, I know that one very well  I thought you lived outside the UK.... Cheers though !
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 24 June, 2012, 01:41:18 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 23 June, 2012, 11:21:37 PM
QuoteHalf of the actor's grim-looking face is seen underneath Dredd's famous helmet.

How can we see his face if it is underneath his helmet?

The clue there being half. Most people's faces don't stop at their noses.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 24 June, 2012, 02:16:21 PM
 
Quote from: darnmarr on 24 June, 2012, 01:08:35 PM
A tad early, but what-the-hey...
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-G40CBqF42J8/T-cCXuwBdiI/AAAAAAAAB_U/tQ_Ryq7jrlc/s400/chrismascard.JPG)

:lol: :lol: :lol:That is Brilliant!Thanks for that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 24 June, 2012, 03:18:06 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 24 June, 2012, 01:39:06 PM
Ah, yes, I know that one very well  I thought you lived outside the UK.... Cheers though !

Goaty is an enigma wrapped in an online pseudonym.

And  :lol: @ Darnmarr.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge macbrayne on 24 June, 2012, 04:35:19 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 23 June, 2012, 11:27:53 PM
Quote from: Stan on 23 June, 2012, 09:48:46 PM
Er...maybe I read the scene wrong..  :lol:

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/21/article-2162731-13B8D005000005DC-673_634x313.jpg)
Life's a pane: Dredd is seen throwing himself backwards through a window, with glass shattering around him

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2162731/Judge-Dredd-gets-action-packed-reboot-new-film-trailer-debuts-Karl-Urban-comic-book-hero.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

yippee-ka-yay...
THATS SMASHIN  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 24 June, 2012, 10:19:31 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 24 June, 2012, 01:41:18 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 23 June, 2012, 11:21:37 PM
QuoteHalf of the actor's grim-looking face is seen underneath Dredd's famous helmet.

How can we see his face if it is underneath his helmet?

The clue there being half. Most people's faces don't stop at their noses.

So shouldn't say: Half of the actor's grim-looking face is hidden underneath Dredd's famous helmet?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 June, 2012, 10:27:25 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 24 June, 2012, 10:19:31 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 24 June, 2012, 01:41:18 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 23 June, 2012, 11:21:37 PM
QuoteHalf of the actor's grim-looking face is seen underneath Dredd's famous helmet.

How can we see his face if it is underneath his helmet?

The clue there being half. Most people's faces don't stop at their noses.

So shouldn't say: Half of the actor's grim-looking face is hidden underneath Dredd's famous helmet?



As Steve said the clue there is half, meaning half is seen but that half -like all his head- is still underneath the helmet, not covered, underneath.


Half of the actor's grim-looking face is seen underneath Dredd's famous helmet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 24 June, 2012, 10:28:00 PM
You could say either.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 24 June, 2012, 10:30:25 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 24 June, 2012, 10:19:31 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 24 June, 2012, 01:41:18 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 23 June, 2012, 11:21:37 PM
QuoteHalf of the actor's grim-looking face is seen underneath Dredd's famous helmet.

How can we see his face if it is underneath his helmet?

The clue there being half. Most people's faces don't stop at their noses.

So shouldn't say: Half of the actor's grim-looking face is hidden underneath Dredd's famous helmet?

Two different definitions of "underneath" at work here.  The half of Dredd's face that is underneath [inside of] the helmet is hidden.  The half of Dredd's face that is underneath [vertically below] the helmet is visible.  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 June, 2012, 10:32:53 PM
yet both still underneath as in situated directly below.




Jovus, we need some alcohol.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 24 June, 2012, 10:35:26 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 24 June, 2012, 10:32:53 PM

Jovus, we need some alcohol.
Or another trialer.





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 24 June, 2012, 11:21:13 PM
I've only just realised Dredd doesn't have a daystick. My precious childhood. This is like Bayformers all over again.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 June, 2012, 11:25:11 PM
Some perp sat on it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 24 June, 2012, 11:37:07 PM
"How about a magic trick? I'm gonna make this daystick disappear."

That's one way to clear a room.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 June, 2012, 11:39:14 PM
Sorry if it been mentions, are Dredd doing fist fights or something in the film?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 June, 2012, 11:45:53 PM
There'll be some fisting.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 24 June, 2012, 11:51:57 PM
Quote from: Stan on 24 June, 2012, 11:21:13 PM
I've only just realised Dredd doesn't have a daystick. My precious childhood. This is like Bayformers all over again.


Maybe it's a telescopic one!  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 25 June, 2012, 12:08:33 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 24 June, 2012, 11:45:53 PM
There'll be some fisting.

Oooh-er!!

Quote from: Stan on 24 June, 2012, 11:21:13 PM
I've only just realised Dredd doesn't have a daystick. My precious childhood. This is like Bayformers all over again.

I enjoyed Transformers.. Despite not really following what's going on in the latter two..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 25 June, 2012, 12:37:36 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 24 June, 2012, 11:51:57 PM
Maybe it's a telescopic one!  :o

This is starting to sound like a good Carry On film.

Quote from: Michaelvk on 25 June, 2012, 12:08:33 AM
I enjoyed Transformers.. Despite not really following what's going on in the latter two..

Design issues aside, I do actually have a fondness for the first one after watching ROTF and DOTM, where Prime became a psychopath for whatever reason. It was kinda fun watching the whole production unfold in slow motion though.

Plus the first flick had Bumblebee playing Drive. That's hard not to like.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 25 June, 2012, 12:42:58 AM
They won't admit it but fan rage did get Frenzy's name changed from Soundwave, which was sacrilege.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 25 June, 2012, 01:16:02 AM
http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Original-Judge-Dredd-to-Blast-onto-Blu-ray-in-September/10847

QuoteDisney is bringing back the original Judge Dredd film starring Sylvester Stallone on September 18 in anticipation of the forthcoming reboot three days later on September 21. Dredd debuted in 1995 and saw Stallone go up against Armand Asante.

*sigh*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 25 June, 2012, 03:46:05 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 25 June, 2012, 01:16:02 AM
QuoteDisney is bringing back the original Judge Dredd film starring Sylvester Stallone on September 18 in anticipation of the forthcoming reboot three days later on September 21. Dredd debuted in 1995 and saw Stallone go up against Armand Asante.
*sigh*

It would be a good opportunity to release Danny Cannon's original cut - for he did one before it was yanked away for reshoots - alongside the (*shudder*) theatrical cut, the original teaser and theatrical trailers, a decent 'making of' documentary, and even a Danny Cannon audio commentary... I know that's not going to happen, but you can dream...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 25 June, 2012, 03:47:44 AM
Cannon's as guilty as Stallone for mucking up the '95 one. Out of his depth.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 25 June, 2012, 04:03:41 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 25 June, 2012, 03:47:44 AM
Cannon's as guilty as Stallone for mucking up the '95 one. Out of his depth.

I'm getting in the habit of defending Cannon here, but I actually think he's the lesser evil in that whole sorry affair; it wasn't Cannon who brought in DeSouza to wreck the Wisher/Green draft, it wasn't Cannon who demanded changes on-set like Stallone did, it wasn't Cannon who wanted the crappy reshoots that turned an already-flawed film into an outright travesty (it was Stallone again), and it wasn't Cannon who chopped the film to shreds in the pursuit of an unsuitable PG-13 rating, and he may have only been 27 or something when he directed it, but he certainly had talent and vision, which would have made a considerably better film if the producers (and Stallone) had aided him rather than hindered him...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 June, 2012, 04:24:39 AM
He may be the lesser evil but he is still evil  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 25 June, 2012, 06:51:38 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 25 June, 2012, 01:16:02 AM
http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Original-Judge-Dredd-to-Blast-onto-Blu-ray-in-September/10847

QuoteDisney is bringing back the original Judge Dredd film starring Sylvester Stallone on September 18 in anticipation of the forthcoming reboot three days later on September 21. Dredd debuted in 1995 and saw Stallone go up against Armand Asante.
*sigh*

We've known Judge Dredd would be getting the Blu-ray treatment for months. And frankly I'm kinda glad it is (bit of a Blu-ray fiend you see). The fact is, Judge Dredd is always going to exist, and yes it is a flawed film. But it is a piece of Judge Dredd history, and its worth having in the high possible... er... quality for that reason alone.


I'm sort of glad DREDD fast tracked the Blu-ray of Judge Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 25 June, 2012, 08:27:41 AM
Yep, I'll be buying the Blu ray. Never owned it on any format, and enough time has passed now that I can enjoy it for what it is. Demolition Man's still better though.

As for the mythical 'directors cut' of Judge Dredd, I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist. As I understand it they reinserted pretty much everything that was cut when they failed to secure a lower certificate.

There was obviously some footage shot of the clones, but I don't think that footage was ever used in any cut of the final movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 25 June, 2012, 08:30:02 AM
Waiting to see what the packaging and features are like though. If it sucks I'll buy the German steelbook instead.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 25 June, 2012, 08:49:46 AM
Quote from: radiator on 25 June, 2012, 08:30:02 AM
Waiting to see what the packaging and features are like though. If it sucks I'll buy the German steelbook instead.

Wouldn't that be Stahlbuch?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 25 June, 2012, 09:16:10 AM
The existing German blu-ray is light on features, I can't see them doing much different - at best collating all the EPK/TV spots from the time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: brendan1 on 25 June, 2012, 09:23:24 AM
"What we do appear to have is the sort of storyline that might have been wrapped up in a single episode of the strip, rather than one of the more epic tales that spread over several issues. Urban does an impressive, and entirely appropriate, Clint Eastwood impression as Dredd (Wagner and Ezquerra were thinking of Dirty Harry when they came up with the character), and Travis seems to have been reading the Zack Snyder guide to epic slo-mo.

For me, this Dredd has the look of a slightly po-faced take on Mega-City One – one conceived in 2008, when Christopher Nolan's stern and visceral The Dark Knight had driven all before it at the global box office – when a bit of big, brash and bold Paul Verhoeven-style razzmatazz might have been more in order."

I agree with some of this Guardian quote. While I was was, like most, really pleased with the trailer, I'm still as underwhelmed with the plot (and script) as I was when I first read it. Just seems rather....small.

Yes, Urban's Dredd appears to be spot-on, but is the story interesting enough? The point about "Verhoeven razzmatazz" is not one I would go along with neccessarily - although bigger budget would have been nice - but I still want to feel a bit of the "epic scale" which befits the strip and its setting.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 25 June, 2012, 09:31:21 AM
One thing that niggles me slightly at this stage is that the Big Meg we seem to be getting doesn't seem the likeliest setting for fatties, batgliders, simps and a large chunk of the quirky multitude of the populace of the city as we've grown to know it.  Not the end of the world, I'll admit, but I'd still love to see this diversity on the big screen.

Taps, dunks, scrawlers, jimps - certainly these fit right in, but they're all a bit pedestrian, if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 25 June, 2012, 09:35:37 AM
Quote from: ming on 25 June, 2012, 09:31:21 AM
One thing that niggles me slightly at this stage is that the Big Meg we seem to be getting doesn't seem the likeliest setting for fatties, batgliders, simps and a large chunk of the quirky multitude of the populace of the city as we've grown to know it.  Not the end of the world, I'll admit, but I'd still love to see this diversity on the big screen.

Taps, dunks, scrawlers, jimps - certainly these fit right in, but they're all a bit pedestrian, if you know what I mean.
Quote from: brendan1 on 25 June, 2012, 09:23:24 AM
I agree with some of this Guardian quote. While I was was, like most, really pleased with the trailer, I'm still as underwhelmed with the plot (and script) as I was when I first read it. Just seems rather....small.

While yes, it is rather small, so to speak, and not as textured as the comic, but I reckon it's probably safer to go this route to gently reintroduce the character to the movie going crowd, allowing for an expansion of scope in a subsequent sequel. Keeping it confined allows you to get to know the character instead of being overwhelmed by the world its in and lose track of who or what Dredd and Anderson are all about.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 25 June, 2012, 09:49:17 AM
This months Empire has arrived,with a little more about Dredd.New pic of MC1 and a little bit of text.

My scanner's knackered, so I can scan anything in.Sorry:(

Think it's out in the shops on Thursday.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 June, 2012, 09:54:44 AM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 25 June, 2012, 09:49:17 AM
This months Empire has arrived,with a little more about Dredd.New pic of MC1 and a little bit of text.

My scanner's knackered, so I can scan anything in.Sorry:(

Think it's out in the shops on Thursday.

Use the mobile!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 25 June, 2012, 09:56:41 AM
 :D  My mobile is ancient!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 25 June, 2012, 10:38:32 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 25 June, 2012, 09:54:44 AM

Use the mobile!

How is one of these:
(http://www.hotfrog.co.uk/Companies/Toys-Extra/images-pr/Wooden-toy-hanging-baby-mobile-with-aircraft-aeroplanes-air-balloon-23477_image.jpg)
going to help?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 25 June, 2012, 10:48:36 AM
That's the one!! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 25 June, 2012, 11:05:58 AM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 25 June, 2012, 09:49:17 AM
This months Empire has arrived,with a little more about Dredd.New pic of MC1 and a little bit of text.

My scanner's knackered, so I can scan anything in.Sorry:(

Think its out in the shops on Thursday.

Kewl! Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 25 June, 2012, 11:23:47 AM
What I will say is that there are O' Neil, Grant and Bolland blocks in the new pic!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 25 June, 2012, 12:18:20 PM
Quote from: ming on 25 June, 2012, 09:31:21 AM
One thing that niggles me slightly at this stage is that the Big Meg we seem to be getting doesn't seem the likeliest setting for fatties, batgliders, simps and a large chunk of the quirky multitude of the populace of the city as we've grown to know it.  Not the end of the world, I'll admit, but I'd still love to see this diversity on the big screen.

I think the spread out blocks are deceptive. It's mentioned in the trailer to house 800 million, so even this, 'in development' version of the city has double the comic population in recent years. (Not including the current Chaos story of course. I wonder what the population of that is now let alone at the end of this epic.) So from a purely numbers point of view (and I'm aware you may be basing your statement on tone and visuals) there should be enough diversity for all you mention above. Not that we'll see much of that in this story, although I did spot a gliding vehicle at the start of the trailer. (I didn't see it clearly enough to tell if it's a bat-glider.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 June, 2012, 04:33:43 PM
So did anyone scanned the latest Empire with Dredd photos even Mega-City?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 26 June, 2012, 04:40:42 PM
The Forums Back! Praise be to Tharg! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 26 June, 2012, 04:45:09 PM
Wadda miss ? Owt fresh?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 26 June, 2012, 04:53:10 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/562671_4233566798754_106209138_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 26 June, 2012, 04:58:33 PM
Nice  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 26 June, 2012, 05:21:37 PM
I quite like the new look Meg...Like mentioned before seems it's in it's infant stage...but it's a lot more realistic in fitting with the film. As also suggested it gives a lot of scope for an increase in blocks should a sequel be given the green light
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 26 June, 2012, 05:40:08 PM
Just had a thought - in the trailer there are what looks like three captives with Ma-ma? I presume it's them that end up falling down the shaft in the middle. If they were doped up on Slo-mo , what must it feel like to be falling that distance in 1% normal time? How long would it take for them?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 26 June, 2012, 05:43:17 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 26 June, 2012, 05:40:08 PM
Just had a thought - in the trailer there are what looks like three captives with Ma-ma? I presume it's them that end up falling down the shaft in the middle. If they were doped up on Slo-mo , what must it feel like to be falling that distance in 1% normal time? How long would it take for them?

That's like what's heavier?

A ton of bricks? Or a ton of feathers?  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 26 June, 2012, 05:46:38 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 26 June, 2012, 05:40:08 PM
Just had a thought - in the trailer there are what looks like three captives with Ma-ma? I presume it's them that end up falling down the shaft in the middle. If they were doped up on Slo-mo , what must it feel like to be falling that distance in 1% normal time? How long would it take for them?

In their perception...? Could be hours, right...? Oy vey.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 26 June, 2012, 05:47:59 PM
@ Teivion: Thank you for the little peek of the UK Empire for other ppl around the world :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 26 June, 2012, 05:58:08 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 26 June, 2012, 05:46:38 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 26 June, 2012, 05:40:08 PM
Just had a thought - in the trailer there are what looks like three captives with Ma-ma? I presume it's them that end up falling down the shaft in the middle. If they were doped up on Slo-mo , what must it feel like to be falling that distance in 1% normal time? How long would it take for them?

In their perception...? Could be hours, right...? Oy vey.

Exactly. From their perception..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 26 June, 2012, 06:05:45 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 26 June, 2012, 05:40:08 PM
Just had a thought - in the trailer there are what looks like three captives with Ma-ma? I presume it's them that end up falling down the shaft in the middle. If they were doped up on Slo-mo , what must it feel like to be falling that distance in 1% normal time? How long would it take for them?

[spoiler]I was wondering if any were Judges ? Can see a slight glimpse of a gold belt buckle on the guy on the right[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 26 June, 2012, 06:26:38 PM
BBFC site now has the trailer listed with a 12A (as Hawkmonger said the other day).

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/ATAFF289356/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 26 June, 2012, 06:39:28 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 25 June, 2012, 11:23:47 AM
What I will say is that there are O' Neil, Grant and Bolland blocks in the new pic!!

Is there a Wells?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 26 June, 2012, 06:52:13 PM
 :DVery droll
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 June, 2012, 07:10:40 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 26 June, 2012, 06:05:45 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 26 June, 2012, 05:40:08 PM
Just had a thought - in the trailer there are what looks like three captives with Ma-ma? I presume it's them that end up falling down the shaft in the middle. If they were doped up on Slo-mo , what must it feel like to be falling that distance in 1% normal time? How long would it take for them?

[spoiler]I was wondering if any were Judges ? Can see a slight glimpse of a gold belt buckle on the guy on the right[/spoiler]


All three are covered in tattoos, so I doubt it, unless they're Wally Squad.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 26 June, 2012, 07:17:59 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 June, 2012, 07:10:40 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 26 June, 2012, 06:05:45 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 26 June, 2012, 05:40:08 PM
Just had a thought - in the trailer there are what looks like three captives with Ma-ma? I presume it's them that end up falling down the shaft in the middle. If they were doped up on Slo-mo , what must it feel like to be falling that distance in 1% normal time? How long would it take for them?

[spoiler]I was wondering if any were Judges ? Can see a slight glimpse of a gold belt buckle on the guy on the right[/spoiler]

Seeing as Peach Trees had several gangs in one block, according to the trailer, my guess is they are other gang leaders who Ma Ma executes in spectacular fashion to send a message - 'I'm completely in charge of this block'.


All three are covered in tattoos, so I doubt it, unless they're Wally Squad.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 26 June, 2012, 07:21:08 PM
wTF? Silly forum didn't post my message under the quote, and THERE'S NO EDiT FUNCTION!

Anyway, what I was saying was, seeing as Peach Trees has several gangs, according to the trailer, my guess is Ma Ma was executing the other gang leaders in spectacular fashion to send a message - 'this block belongs entirely to me now'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JUDGE BURNS on 26 June, 2012, 07:22:39 PM
Which issue of EMPIRE are the pics of the DREDD movie.???  I just looked at  the July issue and its all about BATMAN.!!!!   No DREDD in it at all. >:(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 June, 2012, 07:27:02 PM
August.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JUDGE BURNS on 26 June, 2012, 07:32:50 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 June, 2012, 07:27:02 PM
August.

Cheers JOE      :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 26 June, 2012, 07:48:26 PM
I did wonder myself if the three guys may have been judges but wasn't paying enough attention to spot tattoos. And while we're on the subject, Slo-Mo might be handy for guys who're a little too quick on the draw. As long as they remember that it's for the chick!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 26 June, 2012, 08:03:36 PM
Quote from: JUDGE BURNS on 26 June, 2012, 07:22:39 PM
Which issue of EMPIRE are the pics of the DREDD movie.???  I just looked at  the July issue and its all about BATMAN.!!!!   No DREDD in it at all. >:(

It's out Thursday.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 26 June, 2012, 08:20:26 PM
Gah!  The Norwegian release date for Dredd is September 28th!  That's a full week later than the US release and even a day behind bloody Sweden!  Double-gah!!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 26 June, 2012, 08:31:52 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 26 June, 2012, 07:21:08 PM
Anyway, what I was saying was, seeing as Peach Trees has several gangs, according to the trailer, my guess is Ma Ma was executing the other gang leaders in spectacular fashion to send a message - 'this block belongs entirely to me now'.

My interpretation is that the graphic depicts the spread of the Mama Clan as it wiped out or absorbed the three other gangs within the block. I'm assuming this shot accompanies the paramedic telling the Judges what's been going on.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 26 June, 2012, 08:50:04 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 26 June, 2012, 08:31:52 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 26 June, 2012, 07:21:08 PM
Anyway, what I was saying was, seeing as Peach Trees has several gangs, according to the trailer, my guess is Ma Ma was executing the other gang leaders in spectacular fashion to send a message - 'this block belongs entirely to me now'.

My interpretation is that the graphic depicts the spread of the Mama Clan as it wiped out or absorbed the three other gangs within the block. I'm assuming this shot accompanies the paramedic telling the Judges what's been going on.

Is that you agreeing with me, or making my post more comprehensible?   ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklarr on 26 June, 2012, 08:50:53 PM
Quote from: ming on 26 June, 2012, 08:20:26 PM
Gah!  The Norwegian release date for Dredd is September 28th!  That's a full week later than the US release and even a day behind bloody Sweden!  Double-gah!!

Beat you to it then  ;)

imdb.com has Sweden listed as 21 September even..

(on SF Bio though it's listed as October 5th, weird..)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 26 June, 2012, 08:55:06 PM
Could those 'three stooges' be Cops? After all the DREDD film is allegedly set during the early years of Justice Dept.

Perhaps that's a grim metaphor for the film. Old style policing literately thrown out the building to be replaced by criminal Gun Law -and then the Judges.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 26 June, 2012, 09:58:31 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 26 June, 2012, 04:53:10 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/562671_4233566798754_106209138_n.jpg)
That is beautiful.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 June, 2012, 09:59:53 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 26 June, 2012, 08:55:06 PM
Could those 'three stooges' be Cops? After all the DREDD film is allegedly set during the early years of Justice Dept.



With tattoos?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 27 June, 2012, 01:45:40 AM
Surely Ezquerra block should look more like this...

(http://www.johnkingworld.com/cow/ezquerra-block.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 27 June, 2012, 02:32:43 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 27 June, 2012, 01:45:40 AM
Surely Ezquerra block should look more like this...

(http://www.johnkingworld.com/cow/ezquerra-block.jpg)


:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: clavell on 27 June, 2012, 02:36:11 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 26 June, 2012, 08:55:06 PM
Could those 'three stooges' be Cops? After all the DREDD film is allegedly set during the early years of Justice Dept.

Perhaps that's a grim metaphor for the film. Old style policing literately thrown out the building to be replaced by criminal Gun Law -and then the Judges.

That's a good idea, but they're not cops.

Quote from: A.Cow on 27 June, 2012, 01:45:40 AM
Surely Ezquerra block should look more like this...

(http://www.johnkingworld.com/cow/ezquerra-block.jpg)

:lol:

- C
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 27 June, 2012, 07:36:10 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 27 June, 2012, 01:45:40 AM
Surely Ezquerra block should look more like this...

(http://www.johnkingworld.com/cow/ezquerra-block.jpg)
:P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 27 June, 2012, 08:30:40 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 27 June, 2012, 01:45:40 AM
Surely Ezquerra block should look more like this...

(http://www.johnkingworld.com/cow/ezquerra-block.jpg)

Nice one  :D

Anyone know it that "dark lumpy outline" technique is unique to Ezquerra? I've never seen it anywhere else. When I first saw it - at the age of 9 or 10 - it put me off at first. Soon learned to love it though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 27 June, 2012, 08:40:56 AM
This may already have been covered, but does anyone what exact date the film is set? Is the year even specified?

The general look of everything would make me guess its 50 or so years in the future, so a lot earlier than the strip Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 27 June, 2012, 08:42:41 AM
It's unspecified.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 27 June, 2012, 08:49:26 AM
Quote from: radiator on 27 June, 2012, 08:42:41 AM
It's unspecified.

Thanks. Guess that makes the "cars don't look futuristic enough" complaint moot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 27 June, 2012, 08:55:59 AM
Quote from: Syne on 27 June, 2012, 08:30:40 AM

Anyone know it that "dark lumpy outline" technique is unique to Ezquerra? I've never seen it anywhere else. When I first saw it - at the age of 9 or 10 - it put me off at first. Soon learned to love it though.

A lot of artists use a thicker outline around objects or characters in the foreground, to make them stand out more.  I remember Dillon and Bolland using it quite a bit.  Ron Smith would sometimes separate foreground with a white surround. However,  I don't recall seeing anyone else using Carlos's lumpy outline. It's a very individual technique - another reason why his art is so distinctive I guess!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 27 June, 2012, 08:58:55 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 27 June, 2012, 08:55:59 AM
Quote from: Syne on 27 June, 2012, 08:30:40 AM

Anyone know it that "dark lumpy outline" technique is unique to Ezquerra? I've never seen it anywhere else. When I first saw it - at the age of 9 or 10 - it put me off at first. Soon learned to love it though.

A lot of artists use a thicker outline around objects or characters in the foreground, to make them stand out more.  I remember Dillon and Bolland using it quite a bit.  Ron Smith would sometimes separate foreground with a white surround. However,  I don't recall seeing anyone else using Carlos's lumpy outline. It's a very individual technique - another reason why his art is so distinctive I guess!

Yeah, it's the lumps that make the difference, as Middenface would say
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 27 June, 2012, 10:43:47 AM
Quote from: Syne on 27 June, 2012, 08:58:55 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 27 June, 2012, 08:55:59 AM
Quote from: Syne on 27 June, 2012, 08:30:40 AM

Anyone know it that "dark lumpy outline" technique is unique to Ezquerra? I've never seen it anywhere else. When I first saw it - at the age of 9 or 10 - it put me off at first. Soon learned to love it though.

A lot of artists use a thicker outline around objects or characters in the foreground, to make them stand out more.  I remember Dillon and Bolland using it quite a bit.  Ron Smith would sometimes separate foreground with a white surround. However,  I don't recall seeing anyone else using Carlos's lumpy outline. It's a very individual technique - another reason why his art is so distinctive I guess!

Yeah, it's the lumps that make the difference, as Middenface would say
It always reminded me of tractor treads...it's a very tough look. Never seen it anywhere before, I've looked..he does other things I see in continental comics...but I think the treads are his alone.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 27 June, 2012, 11:04:27 AM
Quote from: Syne on 27 June, 2012, 08:30:40 AM
Anyone know it that "dark lumpy outline" technique is unique to Ezquerra? I've never seen it anywhere else. When I first saw it - at the age of 9 or 10 - it put me off at first. Soon learned to love it though.

I'm fairly sure I've seen Henry Flint do it recently - or was it in Incubus?

I also seem to remember McMahon doing it early on (in the days when they used to draw for each other).

I hate it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 27 June, 2012, 11:34:48 AM
Quote from: Syne on 27 June, 2012, 08:30:40 AMAnyone know it that "dark lumpy outline" technique is unique to Ezquerra? I've never seen it anywhere else. When I first saw it - at the age of 9 or 10 - it put me off at first. Soon learned to love it though.

I really missed it when Hector was inking his work; he did make an effort to reproduce it, but it always came off  a bit too smooth and even.  I'm another one that quickly learned to love it - gives his stuff real character.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 27 June, 2012, 12:38:37 PM
There is another technique he used on his painted work which I loved - just not having a defined outline, to suggest the subject being out of focus or indistinct.

He used it a couple of times in Necropolis, but never really noticed him using it elsewhere - but it works so well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 27 June, 2012, 12:43:39 PM
Quote from: a chosen rider on 27 June, 2012, 11:34:48 AM
Quote from: Syne on 27 June, 2012, 08:30:40 AMAnyone know it that "dark lumpy outline" technique is unique to Ezquerra? I've never seen it anywhere else. When I first saw it - at the age of 9 or 10 - it put me off at first. Soon learned to love it though.

I really missed it when Hector was inking his work; he did make an effort to reproduce it, but it always came off  a bit too smooth and even.  I'm another one that quickly learned to love it - gives his stuff real character.

I think it's a technique that works best in black and white anyway. Definitely doesn't quite fit with digital colouring.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 June, 2012, 01:03:12 PM
New feature in Empireonline, 10 Things You Need Know About Dredd

http://www.empireonline.com/features/10-things-dredd (http://www.empireonline.com/features/10-things-dredd)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mike Carroll on 27 June, 2012, 01:19:22 PM
Hmm... The first entry in the Empireonline list strongly indicates that the writer has no understanding of Dredd and I'm guessing she's never read a single Dredd story:
Quote"...he's a ruthless, murderous bastard."

-- Mike
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 June, 2012, 01:24:13 PM
Quote from: Mike Carroll on 27 June, 2012, 01:19:22 PM
Hmm... The first entry in the Empireonline list strongly indicates that the writer has no understanding of Dredd and I'm guessing she's never read a single Dredd story:
Quote"...he's a ruthless, murderous bastard."

-- Mike

well, he got very highest body count in the world....?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buddy on 27 June, 2012, 01:53:49 PM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 27 June, 2012, 11:04:27 AM
Quote from: Syne on 27 June, 2012, 08:30:40 AM
Anyone know it that "dark lumpy outline" technique is unique to Ezquerra? I've never seen it anywhere else. When I first saw it - at the age of 9 or 10 - it put me off at first. Soon learned to love it though.

I'm fairly sure I've seen Henry Flint do it recently - or was it in Incubus?

I also seem to remember McMahon doing it early on (in the days when they used to draw for each other).

I hate it.

Early Colin MacNeil also used it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 27 June, 2012, 02:01:07 PM
Quote from: Buddy on 27 June, 2012, 01:53:49 PM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 27 June, 2012, 11:04:27 AM
Quote from: Syne on 27 June, 2012, 08:30:40 AM
Anyone know it that "dark lumpy outline" technique is unique to Ezquerra? I've never seen it anywhere else. When I first saw it - at the age of 9 or 10 - it put me off at first. Soon learned to love it though.

I'm fairly sure I've seen Henry Flint do it recently - or was it in Incubus?

I also seem to remember McMahon doing it early on (in the days when they used to draw for each other).

I hate it.

Early Colin MacNeil also used it.

Ah! I'd forgotten that. He also tried to reproduce Ezquerra's style of page composition: lots of curved corners and frames flowing/intruding into each other. Do you know if he used it outside of his Strontium Dog strips though? I don't have all the progs from that period.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 27 June, 2012, 03:15:10 PM
I've often wondered about the Ezguerra thing. I neither liked nor disliked it but as a lazy person it seemed like a lot of effort for little pay off.

The Empire article is decent overall though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 27 June, 2012, 03:18:12 PM
Quote from: Mike Carroll on 27 June, 2012, 01:19:22 PM
Hmm... The first entry in the Empireonline list strongly indicates that the writer has no understanding of Dredd and I'm guessing she's never read a single Dredd story:
Quote"...he's a ruthless, murderous bastard."

-- Mike

Tell that to East-Meg One...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 27 June, 2012, 03:23:51 PM
Quote from: Syne on 27 June, 2012, 02:01:07 PM
Quote from: Buddy on 27 June, 2012, 01:53:49 PM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 27 June, 2012, 11:04:27 AM
Quote from: Syne on 27 June, 2012, 08:30:40 AM
Anyone know it that "dark lumpy outline" technique is unique to Ezquerra? I've never seen it anywhere else. When I first saw it - at the age of 9 or 10 - it put me off at first. Soon learned to love it though.

I'm fairly sure I've seen Henry Flint do it recently - or was it in Incubus?

I also seem to remember McMahon doing it early on (in the days when they used to draw for each other).

I hate it.

Early Colin MacNeil also used it.

Ah! I'd forgotten that. He also tried to reproduce Ezquerra's style of page composition: lots of curved corners and frames flowing/intruding into each other. Do you know if he used it outside of his Strontium Dog strips though? I don't have all the progs from that period.

Not sure, Mick did it a couple of times in the early Dredds. It just seems to be an extension of using thicker lines on foreground detail, but Carlos really made it his own thing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: brendan1 on 27 June, 2012, 03:24:39 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 27 June, 2012, 03:18:12 PM
Quote from: Mike Carroll on 27 June, 2012, 01:19:22 PM
Hmm... The first entry in the Empireonline list strongly indicates that the writer has no understanding of Dredd and I'm guessing she's never read a single Dredd story:
Quote"...he's a ruthless, murderous bastard."

-- Mike

Tell that to East-Meg One...

They fucking well deserved it. East-Meg scum.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Waltev on 27 June, 2012, 03:26:39 PM
Quote from: brendan1 on 27 June, 2012, 03:24:39 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 27 June, 2012, 03:18:12 PM
Quote from: Mike Carroll on 27 June, 2012, 01:19:22 PM
Hmm... The first entry in the Empireonline list strongly indicates that the writer has no understanding of Dredd and I'm guessing she's never read a single Dredd story:
Quote"...he's a ruthless, murderous bastard."

-- Mike

Tell that to East-Meg One...

They fucking well deserved it. East-Meg scum.

Or Mega-City Two, Sino-City One, South-Am City,  Rio de Janeiro and Djakarta - Indonesia...  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 June, 2012, 03:28:50 PM
And parallel Hippy Earth. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2012, 03:38:11 PM
EARTH SHATTERING
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 27 June, 2012, 06:07:15 PM
That's actually one of the major stories I never read. I'll have to keep an eye out next week. Poor hippehs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 27 June, 2012, 06:09:25 PM
Though I imagine Death would've found them sooner or later.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cactus on 27 June, 2012, 06:22:08 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 27 June, 2012, 03:28:50 PM
And parallel Hippy Earth.

Surely that's the Sovs' fault for building the Apocalypse Warp, regardless of who launched the dimension-hopping nukes?

That's a pretty good write-up from Empire overall, and has tempted me into buying the mag for more pictures to cut out and put on the walls of my hab.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 27 June, 2012, 06:54:56 PM
Dredd is good, criminals are bad!
It really is that simple and if you think differently then what have you got to hide you perp?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2012, 07:09:29 PM
And the reason why it's called Peach Trees is because that was the name of the cafe Garland & McDonald first met Wagner. Should be a sit-com.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 27 June, 2012, 07:28:58 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 26 June, 2012, 05:46:38 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 26 June, 2012, 05:40:08 PM
Just had a thought - in the trailer there are what looks like three captives with Ma-ma? I presume its them that end up falling down the shaft in the middle. If they were doped up on Slo-mo , what must it feel like to be falling that distance in 1% normal time? How long would it take for them?

In their perception...? Could be hours, right...? Oy vey.

If they fall 200 floors (2000 ft/610m)... and their terminal velocity is about 122mph, and say their average speed is more like 120mph as they need time to get up to terminal velocity... then the fall takes 11.37 seconds.

Slo-Mo increases perception 10,000% (making the world move at 1% normal rate), so the fall appears to take 1137 seconds, or 18m57s... approx. 19 minutes of thinking time.

You could resonably knock a bit off and say it appears to last 1134 seconds... which would be HELL on an upside-down calculator. Also I think the storeys in the film are more like 11 feet tall... so a 12.48 second fall or 20m48s.

Let's just say it's 20 minutes!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 27 June, 2012, 07:34:10 PM
It's a very interesting concept, for no matter how much the Perp's perception of time is adjusted, time is still passing at the same rate for him, relative to everyone around him. So would he experience the whole fall in slow motion? Would he experience the beginning of the fall in slow motion and then be cut off as his body hits the ground (ahead of his perception)? Or does this all not make sense in the slightest because it's a film and we shouldn't think too much about it?

The last one...   ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 27 June, 2012, 07:47:25 PM
We don't even know if they're on Slo-Mo™. >:(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2012, 07:51:58 PM
I think it's pretty clear the user would experience any activity in slo-mo otherwise what's the point?

I think the deeper philisophical question is how fast is your awareness/thinking of the experience of slo-mo? Are thought-processes slowed down or only base physicality, emotion and sensation? Does it feel like paralysis?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 27 June, 2012, 07:57:54 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 27 June, 2012, 07:34:10 PM
It's a very interesting concept, for no matter how much the Perp's perception of time is adjusted, time is still passing at the same rate for him, relative to everyone around him. So would he experience the whole fall in slow motion? Would he experience the beginning of the fall in slow motion and then be cut off as his body hits the ground (ahead of his perception)? Or does this all not make sense in the slightest because it's a film and we shouldn't think too much about it?

The last one...   ;)

I'd assumed he'd experience the whole fall in slow motion. It's his perception so even though it feels like twenty minutes to him, it would just pass as normal time to anyone else. Don't actually like to think what the last few minutes of the experience would be like watching the concrete inching closer...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 27 June, 2012, 08:08:40 PM
Also, that shot of Dredd busting down the door and shooting the Slo-Mo addicts - presumably, although their brains would be sped up to perceive time moving slowly, thus seeing the bullets coming towards them, their physical reactions would not be able to keep up, or otherwise they'd just move out the way before the bullets hit them...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 27 June, 2012, 08:17:09 PM
Everything would be slowed down I assume, the bullets and thier reactions, so they'd just get shot in slow motion, not gain a Matrix-like ability to dodge rounds.

I guess!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 27 June, 2012, 09:22:59 PM
Just think of it as the brain working on warp speed whereas the body moves at normal pace.
When I crashed one of my cars into a ditch the whole experience seemed to take forever but in reality it happened within a second. I took a blind country bend at about 70+ MPH in the early hours of the morning in heavy rain, bounced into and along a ditch (about 5ft in depth) and managed to maneouver back onto the road, Totally fucked the car.
So I suppose this event could be likened the the slo-mo effect.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 27 June, 2012, 09:29:02 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 27 June, 2012, 07:28:58 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 26 June, 2012, 05:46:38 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 26 June, 2012, 05:40:08 PM
Just had a thought - in the trailer there are what looks like three captives with Ma-ma? I presume its them that end up falling down the shaft in the middle. If they were doped up on Slo-mo , what must it feel like to be falling that distance in 1% normal time? How long would it take for them?

In their perception...? Could be hours, right...? Oy vey.

If they fall 200 floors (2000 ft/610m)... and their terminal velocity is about 122mph, and say their average speed is more like 120mph as they need time to get up to terminal velocity... then the fall takes 11.37 seconds.

Slo-Mo increases perception 10,000% (making the world move at 1% normal rate), so the fall appears to take 1137 seconds, or 18m57s... approx. 19 minutes of thinking time.

You could resonably knock a bit off and say it appears to last 1134 seconds... which would be HELL on an upside-down calculator. Also I think the storeys in the film are more like 11 feet tall... so a 12.48 second fall or 20m48s.

Let's just say it's 20 minutes!

20 minutes, eh? I suppose the crash to the ground would ease the boredom..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 27 June, 2012, 09:45:02 PM
I wonder how the impact would work? Would you feel all the pain really slowly, or would you just die instantly when you hit the floor?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 27 June, 2012, 09:46:22 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 27 June, 2012, 09:45:02 PM
I wonder how the impact would work? Would you feel all the pain really slowly, or would you just die instantly when you hit the floor?
No matter how fast your brain is working when you splat then game over.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2012, 09:48:20 PM
You'd experience the pain of that impact for a longer time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 27 June, 2012, 09:56:37 PM
23.95 seconds to be precise.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 27 June, 2012, 09:56:43 PM
Not sure on that. Once the skull splinters penetrate the brain then it's instant switch off (maybe as no research exists).




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2012, 10:06:28 PM
The perception of it would still be slower?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 27 June, 2012, 10:11:53 PM
I would like to agree but the brain is a complicated organ from which mankind is far from understanding.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2012, 10:14:34 PM
erp
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 27 June, 2012, 11:42:47 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2012, 07:51:58 PM
I think it's pretty clear the user would experience any activity in slo-mo otherwise what's the point?

I think the deeper philisophical question is how fast is your awareness/thinking of the experience of slo-mo? Are thought-processes slowed down or only base physicality, emotion and sensation? Does it feel like paralysis?

It's not a deep or philosophical observation, but this film features fucking. I assume that's one of the sensations most commonly prolonged by users, as a means of escape from the horror of their daily lives. That supports the film makers' conception of Megacity One as a society in terminal decline, echoes Wagner & Grant's portrayal of the boredom of life on the dole, and it's one of the few original sci-fi concepts I can remember making it into mainstream cinema in recent years.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2012, 11:48:03 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 27 June, 2012, 11:42:47 PM

It's not a deep or philosophical observation, but this film features fucking.


Features spittle too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 27 June, 2012, 11:53:44 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2012, 11:48:03 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 27 June, 2012, 11:42:47 PM

It's not a deep or philosophical observation, but this film features fucking.


Features spittle too.

Gotta have lube.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 28 June, 2012, 12:01:42 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 27 June, 2012, 09:45:02 PM
I wonder how the impact would work? Would you feel all the pain really slowly, or would you just die instantly when you hit the floor?

Try reading the IMDB message board for Dredd, I expect the sensation is similar to the former.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 June, 2012, 03:37:24 PM
I suppose it would all depend on where you land first. Legs would be very slow and painful, face first would be instant.

Another thing I wonder, is if they are seeing everyone in 1% of normal speed, cannot they not use this to move faster?

Like when Dredd is shooting them in the trailer, they should be able to see the bullet moving really slowly and move out the way in time?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 28 June, 2012, 03:41:43 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 June, 2012, 03:37:24 PM
Another thing I wonder, is if they are seeing everyone in 1% of normal speed, cannot they not use this to move faster?

Like when Dredd is shooting them in the trailer, they should be able to see the bullet moving really slowly and move out the way in time?
Perception may be greater but would your reaction be? The rounds are still going to move faster than you.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 28 June, 2012, 03:43:48 PM
What James said - in fact it would likely give you a false sense of security, you'd think you could easily dodge them but getting your body to act quickly enough is another matter.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 June, 2012, 03:45:20 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 28 June, 2012, 03:41:43 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 June, 2012, 03:37:24 PM
Another thing I wonder, is if they are seeing everyone in 1% of normal speed, cannot they not use this to move faster?

Like when Dredd is shooting them in the trailer, they should be able to see the bullet moving really slowly and move out the way in time?
Perception may be greater but would your reaction be? The rounds are still going to move faster than you.

Ah yes, that makes sense.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 June, 2012, 03:48:38 PM
I wonder what hearing someone speak on slo-mo would be like?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 28 June, 2012, 03:52:23 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 28 June, 2012, 03:43:48 PM
What James said - in fact it would likely give you a false sense of security, you'd think you could easily dodge them but getting your body to act quickly enough is another matter.
Similar to the discussion about being thrown out of a window on it, you're probably going to have a while of knowing full well you're going to be shot and not being able to do anything about it. Longer perception of pain as the rounds pass through you too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 28 June, 2012, 03:57:28 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 June, 2012, 03:48:38 PM
I wonder what hearing someone speak on slo-mo would be like?

Like this at about 4:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwylBRucU7w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwylBRucU7w)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 28 June, 2012, 05:15:01 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 28 June, 2012, 03:57:28 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 June, 2012, 03:48:38 PM
I wonder what hearing someone speak on slo-mo would be like?

Like this at about 4:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwylBRucU7w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwylBRucU7w)

It's heartening to see that this filthy drug will not be tolerated by our current lawmakers...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 28 June, 2012, 05:24:47 PM
This is the view from my window this afternoon - Look familiar  :lol:?

(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af68/strontium71/002-6.jpg)

It even has the wall...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 June, 2012, 05:26:34 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 28 June, 2012, 05:24:47 PM
This is the view from my window this afternoon - Look familiar  :lol:?


It even has the wall...

I KNEW IT, they filmed it in models!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 28 June, 2012, 05:58:42 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 28 June, 2012, 05:24:47 PM
This is the view from my window this afternoon - Look familiar  :lol:?

(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af68/strontium71/002-6.jpg)

It even has the wall...

Stonehenge?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklarr on 28 June, 2012, 08:34:49 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 28 June, 2012, 05:24:47 PM
This is the view from my window this afternoon - Look familiar  :lol:?

(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af68/strontium71/002-6.jpg)

It even has the wall...

That sure looks like one mean scary Cursed Earth around it...
Probably wouldn't survive 30 mins in those mutie shanty-towns!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 28 June, 2012, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 June, 2012, 03:48:38 PM
I wonder what hearing someone speak on slo-mo would be like?

Probably the same as sitting through Twilight dialogue...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 28 June, 2012, 09:05:38 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 27 June, 2012, 11:42:47 PM
It's not a deep or philosophical observation, but this film features fucking. I assume that's one of the sensations most commonly prolonged by users, as a means of escape from the horror of their daily lives.

Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 June, 2012, 03:37:24 PM
I suppose it would all depend on where you land first. Legs would be very slow and painful, face first would be instant.

Odd response, but I think I see your point, ELIMINATOR.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 28 June, 2012, 09:07:37 PM
You should try some Preparation H on those, strontium71.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 28 June, 2012, 09:21:13 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 28 June, 2012, 09:07:37 PM
You should try some Preparation H on those, strontium71.

In a couple of millenia, someone very like you will base their graduate thesis on some pretty wild and inaccurate speculation concerning the spiritual and cultural significance of that 'henge', Tordelback.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 June, 2012, 09:28:21 PM
Are you implying TB's a scavenging fantasist?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 28 June, 2012, 09:52:44 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 June, 2012, 09:28:21 PM
Are you implying TB's a scavenging fantasist?

Nothing personal; I was really denigrating his entire profession.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 29 June, 2012, 08:50:30 AM
It's funny 'cos its true.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 29 June, 2012, 08:51:38 AM
Aaaarh! Rogue 'postrophe (genetically engineered for a contraction that never was).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 June, 2012, 11:16:38 AM
Good scanning image of Dredd/Anderson...

(http://www.superrobotmayhem.com/images/comic-book-movies/judge-dredd-movie/judge-dredd-trailer-2012/hd-judge-dredd-trailer_1231.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 29 June, 2012, 11:42:24 AM
Quote from: strontium71 on 28 June, 2012, 05:24:47 PM
This is the view from my window this afternoon - Look familiar  :lol:?

(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af68/strontium71/002-6.jpg)

It even has the wall...

I have already sent agent Swampy to halt construction on this monstrosity.
2 Marks for getting the reference.
4 Marks for finding this funny. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 29 June, 2012, 11:51:42 AM
pics+clear pics
http://www.confusedcoyote.co.uk/2012/06/dredd-is-back-for-first-time.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 29 June, 2012, 11:56:08 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 29 June, 2012, 11:42:24 AM
I have already sent agent Swampy to halt construction on this monstrosity.
2 Marks for getting the reference.
4 Marks for finding this funny. ;)

That's 2 marks to me then!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 June, 2012, 11:58:36 AM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 29 June, 2012, 11:51:42 AM
pics+clear pics
http://www.confusedcoyote.co.uk/2012/06/dredd-is-back-for-first-time.html

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wVGlRAo3E0s/T-h2GSMmXLI/AAAAAAAAK74/eLNoqhF-m-4/s1600/dredd-face.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5PFAmAjGZ10/T-h2D1L1SbI/AAAAAAAAK7k/qFLOb2-WU6E/s1600/DNA_002_copy.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Qbr6xiQkRHY/T-h2E8ASPdI/AAAAAAAAK7o/lsLdgH1GkbM/s1600/Selected_Stills_D3S1030_copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 29 June, 2012, 12:13:16 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ukLTg2g3V-E/T-2NVm3ploI/AAAAAAAAB_0/PWWhjNN-frw/s1600/Dreddcienma.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 June, 2012, 02:13:20 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 29 June, 2012, 11:51:42 AM
pics+clear pics
http://www.confusedcoyote.co.uk/2012/06/dredd-is-back-for-first-time.html

"Isn't there more important things to sort out than try and kill, sorry judge, one drug dealer?"

Like what?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 29 June, 2012, 02:21:42 PM
Two words.

Umpty Candy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 June, 2012, 02:44:08 PM
Having just got around to Apocalypse War (only 30 years late!) I'm wondering if there's any mention of other cities in the leaked stuff? Seeing as the film itself appears a little formulaic I'm probably more intrigued to see how they introduce Dredd's world in the first 5 minutes or so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 29 June, 2012, 02:56:07 PM
I hope they don't bother elaborating on it too much: I never much liked the 'Global' application of the Judge System, ( just a personal thing,) but with the inclusion of each new Judge-state into the canon always lessened the grim isolation of the Big Meg; so even though East-Meg were handy enemies back in the cold-war era, I reckon just One Mega City'll do me for the moment.
At least to be getting along with.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 June, 2012, 03:06:37 PM
It's called Mega-City 1, I assume there's others. Don't need anymoew info than that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 29 June, 2012, 03:59:38 PM
More Meg pictures on the Dredd fan site on FB.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 29 June, 2012, 04:16:00 PM
An L must have been nicked... they'll have anything.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 29 June, 2012, 04:28:15 PM
the new pics fit together into a nice big one too
(http://www.liveroleplay.com/tmp/vista_s.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 29 June, 2012, 04:29:17 PM
(and seeing as there is no edit)
link to a larger copy. Someone can tidy it up if they want :)
http://www.liveroleplay.com/tmp/vista.jpg
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 29 June, 2012, 04:32:19 PM
Those look awesome.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 June, 2012, 04:47:12 PM
I thought that was Goaty block for a second.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 29 June, 2012, 04:49:41 PM
I see a Grant, ONeil (sic), Ezquerra and Bolland. I assume the left hand block is Peach Trees. Other 2 names are beyond me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 June, 2012, 04:55:27 PM
Quote from: Stan on 29 June, 2012, 04:47:12 PM
I thought that was Goaty block for a second.

Oh gosh I hope so! is that front block with H or O and T?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 June, 2012, 04:59:07 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 29 June, 2012, 04:55:27 PM
is that front block with H or O and T?


It's Peach Trees isn't it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 29 June, 2012, 04:59:26 PM
Peach Trees in foreground, Grant not Goaty - stop attention seeking, you're not Commando Forces, you know...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 June, 2012, 05:00:46 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 29 June, 2012, 04:59:26 PM
Peach Trees in foreground, Grant not Goaty - stop attention seeking, you're not Commando Forces, you know...

Chill out, I just out of studio and check the forum and someone mention that, thought that is nice... It only a post wish that happens!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 29 June, 2012, 05:05:33 PM
There is another nice pic under that on in the mag of PT plus a Dredd close up that we have already seen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 June, 2012, 05:07:27 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 June, 2012, 04:59:07 PM

It's Peach Trees isn't it?

Yes it does. wish there is quality scan so can zoom in those many Cit-Blocks far away!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 June, 2012, 05:11:13 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 29 June, 2012, 04:29:17 PM
(and seeing as there is no edit)
link to a larger copy. Someone can tidy it up if they want :)
http://www.liveroleplay.com/tmp/vista.jpg

You got the double D. I got the sky text. Take your pick!

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/megacityone.png/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 29 June, 2012, 05:16:05 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 29 June, 2012, 05:00:46 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 29 June, 2012, 04:59:26 PM
Peach Trees in foreground, Grant not Goaty - stop attention seeking, you're not Commando Forces, you know...

Chill out, I just out of studio and check the forum and someone mention that, thought that is nice... It only a post wish that happens!

It was a joke.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 29 June, 2012, 05:27:50 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 29 June, 2012, 04:49:41 PM
I see a Grant, ONeil (sic), Ezquerra and Bolland.

Any sign of a McMahon Block yet?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 June, 2012, 06:06:20 PM
Dredd in Facebook mention today that the trailer will be at cinemas, lucky buggers to anyone saw that!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 29 June, 2012, 06:08:35 PM
And then this morning, this arrives at the office...

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/img064.jpg)

Fucking unbelievable! Made my day and then some!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 29 June, 2012, 06:12:11 PM
AND he loves The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers! Man amongst men.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 29 June, 2012, 06:13:21 PM
Lordy. That's pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 June, 2012, 06:14:12 PM
Alex Garland is the man!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 June, 2012, 06:18:27 PM
Bet you're glad you missed that screening.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 29 June, 2012, 06:19:08 PM
What a dude.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 29 June, 2012, 06:21:32 PM
*this forum never fails me make me smile since I registered*
Thank you for the piccies and the goodies from you. Awesome letter!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 29 June, 2012, 06:24:43 PM
That is quite simply incredible. My respect for Garland has gone through the ceiling. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 29 June, 2012, 06:26:54 PM
That's brilliant - such a great thing to do.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 29 June, 2012, 06:27:27 PM
That is awesome,the fact that they took the time too.Says a lot.

Frame that bugger.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 29 June, 2012, 06:27:40 PM
That is possibly one of the coolest things to do I've seen..in any context

Good Lad Garland..nice touch
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 29 June, 2012, 06:32:51 PM
Wow that's a lovely gesture from Mr Garland there. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 29 June, 2012, 06:43:38 PM
Looks like Mr. Garlands a talented artist as well going by the accompanying sketch.  Well deserved Blackmocco :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Darren Stephens on 29 June, 2012, 06:51:55 PM
Wow, that's such a nice gesture. Whattaguy!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 29 June, 2012, 06:52:32 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 29 June, 2012, 06:43:38 PM
Looks like Mr. Garlands a talented artist as well going by the accompanying sketch.  Well deserved Blackmocco :-)

Haha! I wouldn't go that far. All I did was not get into a screening of the movie!

Very touching gesture though and between this and the cityblocks in the movie being named appropriately, it's quite heart-warming to see Dredd's in the hands of good people who genuinely care about him and by extension, the people who've lived vicariously through him reading the strip over the years.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 29 June, 2012, 06:54:19 PM
Wow. Just... wow. That's got me beaming like a loon: nice one 'Mocco!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 29 June, 2012, 06:55:40 PM
What a lovely guy Alex Garland is, chuffed for you Mocco.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 29 June, 2012, 06:56:24 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 29 June, 2012, 06:52:32 PM
Haha! I wouldn't go that far. All I did was not get into a screening of the movie!
Fate was cruel and Mr Garland redressed the universal balance...'twas justice in action!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 June, 2012, 06:57:28 PM
Really glad, mocco.

Dredd movie is in good hands!

Cheeky question, the screening you miss out, how many people or seats was it? If it many so that is good faith!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 29 June, 2012, 07:27:34 PM
Seemed like a good few hundred, Goaty. Line was huge when we got there...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 29 June, 2012, 07:29:32 PM
I have the feeling this forum already knows but,

Karl is coming next week to London. And present DREDD. At the Lhttp://www.londonfilmandcomiccon.com/
This news is fresh and going through the fangirl corners.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 June, 2012, 07:30:56 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 29 June, 2012, 07:27:34 PM
Seemed like a good few hundred, Goaty. Line was huge when we got there...

Awesome!



Oh sorry forgot what word 200AD posters used here?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: golledge100 on 29 June, 2012, 07:40:14 PM
If Alex Garland is reading this then I was behind Blackmocco in the queue and was even more gutted than he was. I'm just too proud to whinge about it!
PM me for my address  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 29 June, 2012, 07:45:15 PM
Looks like there is a specific Dredd presentation according to the forum.

http://showmastersonline.com/forums/index.php?s=9079c121778e2a951344c56be0698ea1&showtopic=76625 (http://showmastersonline.com/forums/index.php?s=9079c121778e2a951344c56be0698ea1&showtopic=76625)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 29 June, 2012, 07:59:58 PM
Quote from: golledge100 on 29 June, 2012, 07:40:14 PM
If Alex Garland is reading this then I was behind Blackmocco in the queue and was even more gutted than he was. I'm just too proud to whinge about it!
PM me for my address  ;)

*cough* and ermm yeah I remember blackmocco being infront of me we exchanged a couple of progs whilst waiting and erm, well you know to say I was gutted not getting in was an understatement, say erm do you do paypal ? ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 29 June, 2012, 08:02:08 PM
Misery truly loves company ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 June, 2012, 08:13:52 PM
What a lovely thing to do from Alex, now what are you gonna spend those credits on blackmocco? I hear there is some Slo-mo going cheap  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 29 June, 2012, 08:31:21 PM
Man, that's GREAT, blackmocco.  Almost (almost) makes up for you missing out on the screening; a really stunning gesture.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 29 June, 2012, 08:36:19 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 June, 2012, 08:13:52 PM
What a lovely thing to do from Alex, now what are you gonna spend those credits on blackmocco? I hear there is some Slo-mo going cheap  ;)

Getting me an Umpty bar, CF.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 June, 2012, 08:42:17 PM
That would be brilliant if there was some Umpty on display in the film. They may be on those stalls at the base of the city block!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 29 June, 2012, 08:48:41 PM
And I forgot to post what I was going to post...

Looking at those shots of the Big Meg, it could easily be seen as early in the development of the city as we know it, with the first mammoth blocks going up and dwarfing everything else around... You can imagine (well, I can) places like the Lowlife being crowded out and neglected as the city grows above them.  The Big Meg wasn't built in a day, after all.

Now I'm wondering: will the Statue of Liberty make an appearance?  Would make the sheer scale of the city very, very clear from the get-go.


(I'm not holding out for the Statue of Judgment just yet, or the White Cliffs of Dover - awesome though they'd be.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 29 June, 2012, 09:06:42 PM
Grand note from Alex Garland to blackmocco who braved the queue but was frustrated at the last. Great looking DREDD and a genuine Movie prop from the DREDD Film! Do you think some of the Film people read the threads? >Gasp< I've said bad things about all of them?!

50 creds buys a lot of Slo Mo and Umpty Candy...er, so I've heard. Not that I know of course. Keep Filth like that in Peach Trees I say!

Congrats again to blackmocco who must be feeling a little better than he was before.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklarr on 29 June, 2012, 09:40:16 PM
Quote from: Stan on 29 June, 2012, 02:44:08 PM
Having just got around to Apocalypse War (only 30 years late!) I'm wondering if there's any mention of other cities in the leaked stuff? Seeing as the film itself appears a little formulaic I'm probably more intrigued to see how they introduce Dredd's world in the first 5 minutes or so.

Wasn't there a mention of Hondo City on a Hot-Dog stand or something..? Faintly remember one of the first leaked pics..?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 29 June, 2012, 09:48:52 PM
(http://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/megacityone1-570x320.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 June, 2012, 09:49:19 PM
Little movie remix of an old wallpaper..

(http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv292/SWATteamed/Comics/2000AD/th_MovieDredd02c.png) (http://s693.photobucket.com/albums/vv292/SWATteamed/Comics/2000AD/?action=view&current=MovieDredd02c.png) (http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv292/SWATteamed/Comics/2000AD/th_MovieMega-CityOne01c.png) (http://s693.photobucket.com/albums/vv292/SWATteamed/Comics/2000AD/?action=view&current=MovieMega-CityOne01c.png)

Quote from: nicklarr on 29 June, 2012, 09:40:16 PM
Quote from: Stan on 29 June, 2012, 02:44:08 PM
Having just got around to Apocalypse War (only 30 years late!) I'm wondering if there's any mention of other cities in the leaked stuff? Seeing as the film itself appears a little formulaic I'm probably more intrigued to see how they introduce Dredd's world in the first 5 minutes or so.

Wasn't there a mention of Hondo City on a Hot-Dog stand or something..? Faintly remember one of the first leaked pics..?

You're right. 'HONDO TASTE, MEGA CITY ONE STYLE. NOODLE BAR'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 29 June, 2012, 09:51:27 PM
http://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/megacityone1-570x320.jpg (http://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/megacityone1-570x320.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: norse_sage on 29 June, 2012, 10:12:36 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 29 June, 2012, 07:45:15 PM
Looks like there is a specific Dredd presentation according to the forum.

http://showmastersonline.com/forums/index.php?s=9079c121778e2a951344c56be0698ea1&showtopic=76625 (http://showmastersonline.com/forums/index.php?s=9079c121778e2a951344c56be0698ea1&showtopic=76625)

I can't believe it.
Every year, there is at least one movie I really REALLY look forward to, and every year I have the rather hopeless wish that said movie would have a stand at a UK convention (which is within travel distance) with the stars and the lot present. This year, it actually happened. Going to the UK is so easy, I just book the flight and go.

I just wish they told me last week instead, because that was when I booked my tickets for the Canary Islands, where I'll be for the duration of the event. First year in the last three I don't go, and this is what happens. Damn!!!

Worse yet, I travel there via the UK, so I'll actually be in London both before and immediately after the event, but not during it >:(



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 29 June, 2012, 10:37:44 PM
That's really really cool! Alex is a pretty awesome guy, and I had the privilege of running into him a few times around the set.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: norse_sage on 29 June, 2012, 10:42:42 PM
hat's really cool of him, and way beyond the call of duty.
And on top of that, he gets Dredd.
I am very glad we have someone like him spearheading Judge Dredd on film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 29 June, 2012, 10:47:00 PM
I wonder if Mr.Garland will be involved in more than just the movie (s) ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 June, 2012, 11:24:45 PM
Large Verison

(http://www.liveroleplay.com/tmp/vista.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 29 June, 2012, 11:34:22 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 29 June, 2012, 11:24:45 PM
Large Verison

(http://www.liveroleplay.com/tmp/vista.jpg)

Man, I want to live in O'Neil Block.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklarr on 29 June, 2012, 11:38:17 PM
To be honest, those city-shots looks a lot more futuristic than I had hoped for
Meaning that they're much better than I expected  :thumbsup:

The look they've created totally kicks arsomness!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 30 June, 2012, 12:17:46 AM
I agree; it looks way better with all this detail.- cannot wait.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 30 June, 2012, 12:21:01 AM
Quote from: Syne on 29 June, 2012, 11:34:22 PM
Man, I want to live in O'Neil Block.

Screw you! I'm with Ezquerra block!  :D

Arsom (Goaty  ;)) thing from Garland, this thing's in good hands indeed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 30 June, 2012, 12:28:30 AM
Quote from: Mudcrab on 30 June, 2012, 12:21:01 AM
Quote from: Syne on 29 June, 2012, 11:34:22 PM
Man, I want to live in O'Neil Block.

Screw you! I'm with Ezquerra block!  :D

Arsom (Goaty  ;)) thing from Garland, this thing's in good hands indeed.

I hate those O'Neil cits..always looking down on us Ezquerras

I say we take them out

BLOCK WAR!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 June, 2012, 12:28:42 AM
The detail is breathtaking they have done a really superb job in my eyes. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 30 June, 2012, 12:29:38 AM
I wonder how many idiots are going to think that's what cape town actually looks like..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 June, 2012, 12:34:33 AM
You mean it doesn't?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 30 June, 2012, 12:38:01 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 30 June, 2012, 12:29:38 AM
I wonder how many idiots are going to think that's what cape town actually looks like..

How the Drokk are you posting on here?

Last time I saw you were being hauled into a pat-wagon after the riots?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 30 June, 2012, 12:44:51 AM
Well clearly the names are photoshopped but everything else looks kosher.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 30 June, 2012, 01:54:11 AM
Did Alex Garland come across your story here on the forum?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 30 June, 2012, 02:39:04 AM
Happy for you Blackmocco- Alex Garland is a real gent.Very nice touch with the block names too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 30 June, 2012, 03:30:25 AM
Good one, blackmocco dude, glad for you, and kudos to Alex Garland for one nice gesture, hope you've started thinking about that sequel already Alex, Dark Judges perhaps?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 30 June, 2012, 05:14:44 AM
I'd like to think that someone told Mr Garland of Blackmocco's plight,-rather than think of him trawling through these threads; that just seems kinda freaky somehow.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 30 June, 2012, 08:42:45 AM
Trying to stay off the thread until I see the film, but wow, those new shots are something else! I've said before but so many future cities look so similar, yet this MC1 is so distinctive. I can't think of another film that has a city like this. It's a double triumph because it's oppressive, citizens are packed together in the blocks yet the place looks so lonely. I wonder if the creators were aware they would get name-checked?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Syne on 30 June, 2012, 08:52:36 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 30 June, 2012, 08:42:45 AM
Trying to stay off the thread until I see the film, but wow, those new shots are something else! I've said before but so many future cities look so similar, yet this MC1 is so distinctive. I can't think of another film that has a city like this. It's a double triumph because it's oppressive, citizens are packed together in the blocks yet the place looks so lonely. I wonder if the creators were aware they would get name-checked?

I agree on it looking quite unique, also on the lonely feel. It almost looks to me as though the blocks were part of a massive construction project that got curtailed by disaster - nuclear war, I guess - leaving no money or resources to fill in the wasteland/old buildings between them.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 30 June, 2012, 09:58:58 AM
I kinda took it as an emergency post-war building project, under heavy construction.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 30 June, 2012, 11:22:30 AM
Lovely gesture by Mr Garland!

And Karl Urban will be at the London Comic-Com!

Cool, might be able to make this one.

Anyone elase from the board going?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 30 June, 2012, 12:15:38 PM
Don't know if anyone has mentioned it before but I was just reading Necropolis and it struck me how similar Olivia Thirbly looks to Anderson as portrayed in that epic. Just take a look at the last few pages of story in the Case Files vol. 14 if you have it. Thirlby has a fuller mouth and nose but other than that even the facial features are similar.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 30 June, 2012, 03:36:45 PM
Quote from: Syne on 30 June, 2012, 08:52:36 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 30 June, 2012, 08:42:45 AM
Trying to stay off the thread until I see the film, but wow, those new shots are something else! I've said before but so many future cities look so similar, yet this MC1 is so distinctive. I can't think of another film that has a city like this. It's a double triumph because it's oppressive, citizens are packed together in the blocks yet the place looks so lonely. I wonder if the creators were aware they would get name-checked?

I agree on it looking quite unique, also on the lonely feel. It almost looks to me as though the blocks were part of a massive construction project that got curtailed by disaster - nuclear war, I guess - leaving no money or resources to fill in the wasteland/old buildings between them.

See, I get the opposite vibe from the mega blocks. To me, these look like they were built very quickly after the war. Once the scale of the refugees became clear, looks like these were just slapped together and then piled high with survivors. Comfort comes second. Necessity comes first. Agree about the lonely vibe though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 30 June, 2012, 03:48:48 PM
The city looks ace!

Also, that letter from Alex Garland was awesome!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 30 June, 2012, 04:34:27 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 29 June, 2012, 06:08:35 PM
And then this morning, this arrives at the office...

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/img064.jpg)

Fucking unbelievable! Made my day and then some!

The mans a Gilbert Shelton fan. In the late 80's I once saw my dad coming home from work wearing an old badge I had lost...Freak bros, it read "Fxxx the 80's let's get back to the 60's"

Blackmocco ...this is a fantastic thing to Be given, what a cool thing have, you should frame it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 30 June, 2012, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 30 June, 2012, 03:36:45 PM
Quote from: Syne on 30 June, 2012, 08:52:36 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 30 June, 2012, 08:42:45 AM
Trying to stay off the thread until I see the film, but wow, those new shots are something else! I've said before but so many future cities look so similar, yet this MC1 is so distinctive. I can't think of another film that has a city like this. It's a double triumph because it's oppressive, citizens are packed together in the blocks yet the place looks so lonely. I wonder if the creators were aware they would get name-checked?

I agree on it looking quite unique, also on the lonely feel. It almost looks to me as though the blocks were part of a massive construction project that got curtailed by disaster - nuclear war, I guess - leaving no money or resources to fill in the wasteland/old buildings between them.

See, I get the opposite vibe from the mega blocks. To me, these look like they were built very quickly after the war. Once the scale of the refugees became clear, looks like these were just slapped together and then piled high with survivors. Comfort comes second. Necessity comes first. Agree about the lonely vibe though.
That makes a lot of sense.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Martin Jameson on 30 June, 2012, 09:36:10 PM
Thought I'd have a little look around the internet to see what others were saying about the new film coming - crikey wish I'd never bothered. It made for some depressing reading.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 30 June, 2012, 09:42:39 PM
Now that is a piece of greatness Blackmocco. Proves that Mr Garland frequents these patures and suffers our drivel. 346 pages on this thread alone.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 30 June, 2012, 09:52:35 PM
Quote from: Light Surfer on 30 June, 2012, 09:36:10 PM
Thought I'd have a little look around the internet to see what others were saying about the new film coming - crikey wish I'd never bothered. It made for some depressing reading.
I'm seeing much the same thing towards The Dark Knight Rises and Spiderman.
Pinch.Of.Salt.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 30 June, 2012, 09:53:30 PM
Quote from: Light Surfer on 30 June, 2012, 09:36:10 PM
Thought I'd have a little look around the internet to see what others were saying about the new film coming - crikey wish I'd never bothered. It made for some depressing reading.
I wouldn't worry about it: The actual reactions by those who've actually seen the actual film of  a very different flavour.

Mind you that is only two people so far.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 30 June, 2012, 10:05:17 PM
I have seen fans of The Expendables slagging off The Dark Knight.

That is like Jordan slagging off Rachel Weisz.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 June, 2012, 10:09:14 PM
or Sex & the City fans taking a pop at Twilight.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 30 June, 2012, 10:12:41 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 June, 2012, 10:09:14 PM
or Sex & the City fans taking a pop at Twilight.

Aren't they one and the same?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 30 June, 2012, 11:17:17 PM
Quote from: Light Surfer on 30 June, 2012, 09:36:10 PM
Thought I'd have a little look around the internet to see what others were saying about the new film coming - crikey wish I'd never bothered. It made for some depressing reading.

I wouldn't worry about, those who have seen it love it. Besdies take You Tube as an example the likes outnumber dislikes 10 to 1 ,yet reading the posts you wouldn't think so. I think negative posters like the sound of their own voice and post multiple times.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 01 July, 2012, 12:03:10 AM
Opinion definitely changed for the better, post-trailer, from what I've been reading. I'd imagine the first one is probably the hardest to get right aswell. I just hope it's still doing the rounds when Batman hits cinemas.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 01 July, 2012, 05:16:27 AM
It's more like fans of **** slagging off fans of ****

Tney're both good dinoauars/.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 01 July, 2012, 08:13:07 AM
Yeah,it's childish....'my Avenjurs is teh bestest and the DKR is gonna be the worstest movie evers because I don't like Catwomans hair'

Stupid argument, especially when (if the planets align like in 2001) Dredd is going to be sooooo cool it will spawn new religions.
Or something.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 01 July, 2012, 10:39:40 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/5c18e690-1ad7-93da.jpg)
From today's Independent on Sunday
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buttonman on 01 July, 2012, 11:30:06 AM
How many 'Kapows' is that out of?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 01 July, 2012, 12:29:25 PM
@ W. R. Logan: Thank You for the snippet :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 01 July, 2012, 12:43:26 PM
It's out of 5 Kapows.
The Watch 1
Dredd 2
Total Recall 2
Skyfall 3
Bourne Legacy 3
Spider-Man 4
Dark Knight 4
Expendables II 5
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 01 July, 2012, 01:24:48 PM
Quote from: W. R. Logan on 01 July, 2012, 12:43:26 PM
It's out of 5 Kapows ... Expendables II, 5 (kapows)

Typo; 'kapows' should read 'kerapps'. You can read the full piece at Independent on Sunday (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/kapow-the-heroes-return-7901919.html).

Any of you who journeyed to Heaton Park this weekend will be incensed by the vitriolic bitchiness of the hilarious Simon Price's review of The Stone Roses comeback gigs (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/reviews/the-stone-roses-heaton-park-manchesternicki-minaj-hammersmith-apollo-london-7901757.html) to be found there too. But that's what he wants.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 July, 2012, 08:10:15 PM
Well, got quiet hour!

(http://i.imgur.com/tHUmv.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 01 July, 2012, 08:26:04 PM
LOL - that's funny Goaty
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 01 July, 2012, 08:57:05 PM
Our favourite Judge was referenced in a recent article (http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-non-economic-explanations-chinas-economy/) over at Cracked.com

The caption used on the picture is interesting. Especially since there's apparently a movie coming out that's a bit like the Raid
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 01 July, 2012, 09:20:34 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 01 July, 2012, 08:10:15 PM
Well, got quiet hour!

(http://i.imgur.com/tHUmv.jpg?1)

Brilliant!

Perhaps you could do one giving the finger to all the naysayers?! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 July, 2012, 09:30:54 PM
With the finger

(http://i.imgur.com/zMWyS.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 01 July, 2012, 09:46:54 PM
Was the incorrect spelling of 'judgment' some kind've in-joke?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 01 July, 2012, 10:09:20 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 01 July, 2012, 09:30:54 PM
With the finger

(http://i.imgur.com/zMWyS.jpg)

Genius! :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 01 July, 2012, 10:28:31 PM
Quote from: pops1983 on 01 July, 2012, 08:57:05 PM
Our favourite Judge was referenced in a recent article (http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-non-economic-explanations-chinas-economy/) over at Cracked.com

The caption used on the picture is interesting. Especially since there's apparently a movie coming out that's a bit like the Raid

I thought it was like Robocop?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 02 July, 2012, 08:12:33 PM
Re-ran an ep of the excellent Bored to Death last night and was surprised to see Olivia Thirlby who I thought I hadn't seen before anywhere.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 July, 2012, 05:04:07 PM
More details on the Dredd Panel at London Film and Comic Con at Olympia on the 7th/8th July.

It's on both Sat and Sun at 5pm.

"DREDD panel with writer Alex Garland, Producers Andrew MacDonald and Allon Reich, Artist Jock and Judge Dredd, himself, KARL URBAN"

http://showmastersonline.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=76711 (http://showmastersonline.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=76711)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 July, 2012, 05:12:56 PM
Who's going to be the naughty squaxx to ask the question about Pete Travis?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 03 July, 2012, 05:14:26 PM
Wow! ... Negotiations are over.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 03 July, 2012, 05:27:04 PM
Awesome, do you think they will reveal anything new? Or just say same stuff that people who have been following the film for ages will already know.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 July, 2012, 05:28:46 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 03 July, 2012, 05:27:04 PM
Awesome, do you think they will reveal anything new? Or just say same stuff that people who have been following the film for ages will already know.

Possible few new clips?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 03 July, 2012, 05:29:43 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 03 July, 2012, 05:12:56 PM
Who's going to be the naughty squaxx to ask the question about Pete Travis?

Well it not only begs the question...it pleads
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 03 July, 2012, 05:30:14 PM
I hope someone films it and puts it on youtube.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 03 July, 2012, 05:33:59 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 03 July, 2012, 05:12:56 PM
Who's going to be the naughty squaxx to ask the question about Pete Travis?

See, this is why I don't like the fact he is the director, as some people will think it is his film, as in credits to most films, the director would get something like "lionsgate presents, a peter travis film"  but this clearly isn't his film at all.

And also, I don't think his films are very good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 July, 2012, 05:47:27 PM
Even if someone does, they're hardly likely to elaborate on the agreed statement...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: doggettX on 03 July, 2012, 06:05:45 PM
Quote from: Light Surfer on 30 June, 2012, 09:36:10 PM
Thought I'd have a little look around the internet to see what others were saying about the new film coming - crikey wish I'd never bothered. It made for some depressing reading.

Not everyone.
Some have seen it 'leeked' and called it a GOOD MOVIE.

And who can argue with that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 03 July, 2012, 06:13:21 PM
Nothing quickens the ticker like the sudden thought that Dredd might show at Karlovy Vary Festival...checked, not so...guess I can put down the car keys.  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 03 July, 2012, 08:02:36 PM
I notice Total Recall is on tonight. You can bet Stallone Dredd will be on next month too.

And yeah, someone drop the Travis-bomb.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Martin Jameson on 03 July, 2012, 08:19:01 PM
Quote from: doggettX on 03 July, 2012, 06:05:45 PM

Not everyone.
Some have seen it 'leeked' and called it a GOOD MOVIE.

And who can argue with that.

Good, I stopped looking. So many people seemed so dismissive of something not even out yet. Was the Stallone version THAT popular? I felt like joining some forums just to put the record straight, but what the hell.....
And just how many people have seen The Raid? Must be one of the box office hits of the year.
Hopefully people won't be put off by others claiming this a cheap remake of a camp 90's Stallone romp. I reckon once reviews start coming out things will change. The trailer has gone down, on the whole, pretty well.

In other news....Prog 1789....letters page....Tharg.....vinegar stroke?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 July, 2012, 08:33:07 PM
Unless they all snuck into the cinema, they didn't add much to the box office.

Maybe it's just become a cult thing with vocal fans.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 July, 2012, 08:33:28 PM
As there biggest poster of motion poster on another thread, I notice this, is that First Aid on left bag?

(http://i.imgur.com/kasM2.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 July, 2012, 08:35:42 PM
Bag! I would rather think that it was called a First Aid pouch or First Aid kit  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 03 July, 2012, 08:41:18 PM
That motion poster is pure awesome! . . . this just gets better by the minute. I wonder if a forumite will be lucky enough to win the ticket to Diego?!  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 03 July, 2012, 08:53:50 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 03 July, 2012, 05:12:56 PM
Who's going to be the naughty squaxx to ask the question about Pete Travis?

Pete Travis was never the Director of Dredd. He fought with Jones at The Battle of Cowshed, he sneaks onto the farm at night to steal food, and his agents are everywhere.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 July, 2012, 09:11:20 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 03 July, 2012, 08:33:28 PM
As there biggest poster of motion poster on another thread, I notice this, is that First Aid on left bag?




It was in the set photo too:



(http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/dredd-set-pic-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 July, 2012, 09:15:54 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 03 July, 2012, 09:11:20 PM

It was in the set photo too:


Yeah it was blur as you can't see what it should be.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklarr on 03 July, 2012, 09:22:13 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 July, 2012, 08:35:42 PM
Bag! I would rather think that it was called a First Aid pouch or First Aid kit  ;)
Med-kit!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 03 July, 2012, 10:06:58 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 03 July, 2012, 08:33:07 PM
Unless they all snuck into the cinema, they didn't add much to the box office.

Maybe it's just become a cult thing with vocal fans.
I've been wondering about this:

The nostalgia critic 's pretty popular; and had no small part in the belated success of Tommy Wiseu's The Room ; his critique on Judge Dredd is considered one of his best, so maybe that's it...or maybe it is simply 90's nostalgia ( for those who grew up in that decade).
I do remember an episode of 'Scrubs' where the main character's affection for the Judge Dredd film was more or less used to deliniate what an absolute idiot he was, so maybe times have changed, I dunno.

Ultimately (like 'The Raid' comparisons), I actually think it may bode well for the desired "Sleeper hit"-type-success that a future of the Dredd franchise requires: because despite (or because of) Stallone and Schneider, Dredd 's on a lot of people's radar,- and that's all for the good:

DREDD doesn't need folk to attend it expecting the greatest story ever told; it only needs enough people with enough curiosity to bother seeing it at all, and then (regardless of positive-negative expectations) for it to be really rather marvellous.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 03 July, 2012, 10:15:38 PM
Yeah, I think it is really gonna blow a lot of people minds.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 03 July, 2012, 11:50:33 PM
I've seen a few people mention this Raid film and it's similarities to Dredd.   I've also read people saying they've seen the script for Dredd.   Which started filming first and why wasn't the script kept secret?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 July, 2012, 11:54:14 PM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 03 July, 2012, 11:50:33 PM
I've seen a few people mention this Raid film and it's similarities to Dredd.   I've also read people saying they've seen the script for Dredd.   Which started filming first and why wasn't the script kept secret?



Dredd was in-the-can and had just started post-production before the Raid started filming. The Dredd script's been around since the second half of 2010 - shit happens. All but the most heavily guarded big-studio scripts manage to be kept secret.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 04 July, 2012, 12:12:45 AM
The Raid and Dredd(script) both have strengths:in neither case is that strength the originality of the plot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 04 July, 2012, 02:45:35 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 03 July, 2012, 05:33:59 PM
See, this is why I don't like the fact he is the director, as some people will think it is his film, as in credits to most films, the director would get something like "lionsgate presents, a peter travis film"  but this clearly isn't his film at all.  And also, I don't think his films are very good.

It's not Travis' film, they may use the word 'collaboration' in regards to the movie's creative direction, but that's just PR baloney, it was always Alex Garland and DNA Films' baby; they negotiated for the film rights with Rebellion, they met with John Wagner and discussed the film, they agreed to and developed the eventual storyline, they worked with Jock on the conceptual designs, and they went to Cannes to secure financing, it was only after financing was secured in May 2010 that Travis' involvement was confirmed...

And I like some of Travis' previous work, Endgame was excellent, whilst Vantage Point was solid entertainment, any flaws in that I think lay with the script rather than direction or editing, Travis' kinetic and fluid directing/visual style would work gangbusters for a 24 movie, but I think he'll be working on a new film by then, pity... 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 04 July, 2012, 04:20:00 AM
I really should clarify the above; when I said it was Alex Garland's and DNA Films' baby, I meant it was their vision for Dredd that makes it ultimately what it is, of course there was active collaboration with Pete Travis during principal photography, he was hired to direct the the film, but it was collaboration on a mostly technical capacity - framing and lighting shots, working with actors, etc - it was always a DNA Films production more than a Pete Travis film, if you see what I mean (and certainly not to disrespect or minimize Travis' contributions)...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 04 July, 2012, 04:30:34 AM
I didn't even realise Goaty was talking about a new pic but I love that poster. Definitely a fan of non-Versace Dredd.

(http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv292/SWATteamed/Comics/2000AD/DreddMotionPoster.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 04 July, 2012, 08:57:36 AM
Great poster is it? Now the media sites posts about Dredd Motion Poster! All looks good is it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 04 July, 2012, 10:36:26 AM
Quote from: bikini kill on 03 July, 2012, 08:53:50 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 03 July, 2012, 05:12:56 PM
Who's going to be the naughty squaxx to ask the question about Pete Travis?

Pete Travis was never the Director of Dredd. He fought with Jones at The Battle of Cowshed, he sneaks onto the farm at night to steal food, and his agents are everywhere.

Two legs good, four legs bad.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 04 July, 2012, 11:45:45 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 04 July, 2012, 04:20:00 AM
I really should clarify the above; when I said it was Alex Garland's and DNA Films' baby, I meant it was their vision for Dredd that makes it ultimately what it is, of course there was active collaboration with Pete Travis during principal photography, he was hired to direct the the film, but it was collaboration on a mostly technical capacity - framing and lighting shots, working with actors, etc - it was always a DNA Films production more than a Pete Travis film, if you see what I mean (and certainly not to disrespect or minimize Travis' contributions)...

[spoiler]Defence noted[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 04 July, 2012, 02:19:42 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 03 July, 2012, 08:33:28 PM
As there biggest poster of motion poster on another thread, I notice this, is that First Aid on left bag?



Yup.. First aid pouch. Any squaddie going into combat these days (and lets face it, crime in MC1 is war..), has a medic pouch on their person.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 04 July, 2012, 02:41:31 PM
It's a lot easier than having identical pouches...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 04 July, 2012, 02:43:56 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 04 July, 2012, 02:41:31 PM
It's a lot easier than having identical pouches...

Unless you're drawing them in six panels a page, six pages a week...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: brendan1 on 04 July, 2012, 03:18:13 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 04 July, 2012, 02:43:56 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 04 July, 2012, 02:41:31 PM
It's a lot easier than having identical pouches...

Unless you're drawing them in six panels a page, six pages a week...

That reminds me of the apocryphal McMahon classic:

"Are there going to be loads of people fighting this Block War every week?"
"Er, yeah"
"Fuck that"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 04 July, 2012, 03:28:36 PM
Quote from: brendan1 on 04 July, 2012, 03:18:13 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 04 July, 2012, 02:43:56 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 04 July, 2012, 02:41:31 PM
It's a lot easier than having identical pouches...

Unless you're drawing them in six panels a page, six pages a week...

That reminds me of the apocryphal McMahon classic:

"Are there going to be loads of people fighting this Block War every week?"
"Er, yeah"
"Fuck that"

More like every day!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 04 July, 2012, 03:38:18 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 04 July, 2012, 02:43:56 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 04 July, 2012, 02:41:31 PM
It's a lot easier than having identical pouches...

Unless you're drawing them in six panels a page, six pages a week...

Compared to drawing that bloody eagle, I would have thought a cross on the pouch is trivial... ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 04 July, 2012, 04:50:41 PM
I really hope this film is great,not just because it's Dreddy but because I've just reached my fucking threshold/red line/limit for haters panning this flick before its out.
Apparently the only people who are looking forward to this dream about getting raped by Dredd with his big black gun.I loved the site and its forums,and respected the guy who said this but,in that  one statement he has just turned me off going there and summed up whats wrong with the internet,namely over zealous haters and child porn.
Have reservations sure,but this shit,c'mon.

Dredd FTW.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 04 July, 2012, 05:12:52 PM
Well...that's just the old game of OTT interweb-trash-talk: there'll be something worse, just as soon as someone thinks it up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 04 July, 2012, 05:24:14 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 04 July, 2012, 04:50:41 PM
I really hope this film is great,not just because it's Dreddy but because I've just reached my fucking threshold/red line/limit for haters panning this flick before its out.
Apparently the only people who are looking forward to this dream about getting raped by Dredd with his big black gun.I loved the site and its forums,and respected the guy who said this but,in that  one statement he has just turned me off going there and summed up whats wrong with the internet,namely over zealous haters and child porn.
Have reservations sure,but this shit,c'mon.

Dredd FTW.


I wouldn't let it get to you!

The internet is replete with forums full of cretinous attention seekers-this forum excepted of course!

Just laugh at their infantillness and walk away!

Alternatively, if you challenge their weak arguments or limited intellect they normally fuck off back under their rocks or piss off to another forum to seek solace with other weak minded fools.  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 04 July, 2012, 05:28:43 PM
Just had to vent.....I'm all zen calm again now  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 04 July, 2012, 05:34:26 PM
'Ted' is doing great box-office: so the trailer should be seen, in the cinemas, by plentymany.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 04 July, 2012, 05:44:07 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 04 July, 2012, 05:34:26 PM
'Ted' is doing great box-office: so the trailer should be seen, in the cinemas, by plentymany.

Where/when was this announced that the Dredd trailer is before Ted?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 04 July, 2012, 06:13:09 PM
Facebook page:
Quote...see the Dredd trailer on the big screen. Have you spotted it yet?

QuoteKevin Symonds: Which films is it with? All of them?

QuoteDredd 3D: Should definitely be with Ted (The Movie), but may depend on theater.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 04 July, 2012, 06:27:26 PM
Ted? That's not really the type of film I expect to see Wahlberg in. I might have to give the trailer a pass.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 04 July, 2012, 06:42:07 PM
Imagine my disappointment when I found out it was not set on Craggy Island.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 July, 2012, 07:49:03 PM
This image is plastered on the front of the DREDD facebook, is it meant to be an ironic promo or is something lost in translation:



(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/555617_453931207964066_1343230816_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 04 July, 2012, 07:50:22 PM
Irony for sure.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 July, 2012, 08:11:20 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 04 July, 2012, 07:50:22 PM
Irony for sure.


Is it intended though? The Dredd facebook is for US announcements only.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 04 July, 2012, 08:17:10 PM
Should it be 4th July?

Well Mega-City 1 is in USA...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 July, 2012, 08:21:54 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 04 July, 2012, 08:17:10 PM
Should it be 4th July?

Well Mega-City 1 is in USA...



but it isn't USA anymore, it's Mega-City One. Celebrating the 4th of July would be a subversive act. They should issue a warning on the poster with a list of sentences for those caught indulging in the festivities as part of the marketing, not that would be DREDD.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 July, 2012, 08:22:34 PM
last line should be: "now that would be DREDD"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 04 July, 2012, 08:22:40 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 04 July, 2012, 08:30:16 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 04 July, 2012, 08:21:54 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 04 July, 2012, 08:17:10 PM
Should it be 4th July?

Well Mega-City 1 is in USA...



but it isn't USA anymore, it's Mega-City One. Celebrating the 4th of July would be a subversive act. They should issue a warning on the poster with a list of sentences for those caught indulging in the festivities as part of the marketing, not that would be DREDD.

They still use the stars and stripes though - but yeah, 'Enjoy it while it lasts' would have been cool.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 July, 2012, 08:37:08 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 04 July, 2012, 08:30:16 PM
They still use the stars and stripes though - but yeah, 'Enjoy it while it lasts' would have been cool.


Not as colourful as it once was though, certainly don't see it much -if at all- as a blatant flag in the Hall of Justice.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 04 July, 2012, 08:47:01 PM
Should have read "Best wishes from President Booth" in real small letters underneath.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 04 July, 2012, 08:56:46 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 04 July, 2012, 08:37:08 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 04 July, 2012, 08:30:16 PM
They still use the stars and stripes though - but yeah, 'Enjoy it while it lasts' would have been cool.


Not as colourful as it once was though, certainly don't see it much -if at all- as a blatant flag in the Hall of Justice.

Well it's probably seen better days...

(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2012/06/21/dredd_510.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 04 July, 2012, 08:58:59 PM
It's also all over the comics uniform in one form or another - the belt buckle, the badge, the respirator the non-eagle pad has the stars on the edging and the stripes make up the pad itself.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 04 July, 2012, 10:16:59 PM
I see DREDD has now hit the dizzy heights of number 20 in the top movies list on IMDB!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 04 July, 2012, 10:35:11 PM
Only USA? Would have thought it more logical to have just one international page, but I suppose it must vary with the distributors or something?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 04 July, 2012, 11:48:35 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 04 July, 2012, 08:56:46 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 04 July, 2012, 08:37:08 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 04 July, 2012, 08:30:16 PM
They still use the stars and stripes though - but yeah, 'Enjoy it while it lasts' would have been cool.


Not as colourful as it once was though, certainly don't see it much -if at all- as a blatant flag in the Hall of Justice.

Well it's probably seen better days...

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2012/06/21/dredd_510.jpg

Is there a particular reason why the flag isn't of the current design? I joked that this was a pic of Dredd attending Joe Jnr's career day and now I'm thinking I wasn't far off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 04 July, 2012, 11:50:40 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 04 July, 2012, 10:35:11 PM
Only USA? Would have thought it more logical to have just one international page, but I suppose it must vary with the distributors or something?

He did say there should be other pages but I don't know if that was just his (or her!) opinion.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 July, 2012, 12:01:05 AM
Silly thought, no spoilers from the script please, is there robots in Dredd film? Just wonder.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 05 July, 2012, 12:19:38 AM
Over on Karlurbaninternational there's the pRoduction notes from the press pack. They make very exciting reading!

http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1975/dredd-2012-production-notes/ (http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1975/dredd-2012-production-notes/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 05 July, 2012, 12:22:23 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 05 July, 2012, 12:01:05 AM
Silly thought, no spoilers from the script please, is there robots in Dredd film? Just wonder.

I submitted a long list an overview of life in MC-1 before film was made to a certain writer (nameless) and was gratefully received and passed on. One of things i mentioned was robots but i know as much as you Goaty.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 05 July, 2012, 04:10:15 AM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 05 July, 2012, 12:19:38 AM
Over on Karlurbaninternational there's the pRoduction notes from the press pack. They make very exciting reading!
http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1975/dredd-2012-production-notes/ (http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1975/dredd-2012-production-notes/)

Awesome read there, cheers for that Pete.  Interesting that Alex Garland went through TWO separate script ideas for well over a year before arriving at the plot we have in Dredd currently, mind you, could it be possible that those two discarded plot ideas will form the basis of the hopefully two sequels?  Judge Death in the second one - which John Wagner has already strongly hinted at - and "pro-democracy terrorists" in the third and final one, the latter of which could be a REALLY challenging and politically charged CBM with the whole 'one-man's-terrorist-is-another's-freedom-fighter' motif in the mix, challenging audiences to decide between a draconian-but-necessary judicial system and murderous terrorists who are campaigning for full democracy in the Big Meg, only done a lot better than the V for Vendetta movie, which was both simplistic in the extreme and an outright ideological screed - evil right-wing government/noble freedom fighters; the opposite of what Alan Moore's graphic novel was about - let's hope we've just gotten a glimpse into the outline of a potential Dredd trilogy in that press pack...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 05 July, 2012, 07:30:55 AM
Go on then Beaky, i'll bite- explain how V for Vendetta was about a noble right wing government and an evil freedom fighter in such a way that the audience's sympathies were significantly different than that of the movie.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 05 July, 2012, 08:52:25 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 05 July, 2012, 12:01:05 AM
Silly thought, no spoilers from the script please, is there robots in Dredd film? Just wonder.

I'm not sure if you're actually asking this question or not. If you don't want to know, don't read what's under the spoiler bar -

[spoiler]No, there are no robots in DREDD. MC1 is nowhere near that level of tech as depicted in the new film.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 05 July, 2012, 09:10:29 AM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 05 July, 2012, 12:19:38 AM
Over on Karlurbaninternational there's the pRoduction notes from the press pack. They make very exciting reading!

http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1975/dredd-2012-production-notes/ (http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1975/dredd-2012-production-notes/)


Thanks for passing that on!

Fascinating stuff!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 July, 2012, 09:24:41 AM
Well I have to gamble to looks at your spoiler.

OOh not much spoiler phew! But interesting that. SO Dredd will be realistic!  :P
Quote from: Lee Bates on 05 July, 2012, 08:52:25 AM
I'm not sure if you're actually asking this question or not. If you don't want to know, don't read what's under the spoiler bar -

[spoiler]No, there are no robots in DREDD. MC1 is nowhere near that level of tech as depicted in the new film.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 05 July, 2012, 09:26:49 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 05 July, 2012, 09:10:29 AM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 05 July, 2012, 12:19:38 AM
Over on Karlurbaninternational there's the pRoduction notes from the press pack. They make very exciting reading!

http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1975/dredd-2012-production-notes/ (http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1975/dredd-2012-production-notes/)


Thanks for passing that on!

Fascinating stuff!  :)

There's a lot of spoiler there - from what I glimpsed it outlines the whole script in the first chunk. Just so people are aware.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 July, 2012, 09:31:55 AM
So Dredd will likely be 18's:


"We put together a pretty compelling package of mainly rights, producers, script, and a director with a solid track record and all our lead people were excited and on board," says Macdonald, "but we wanted to make a film that would be tough and grown up, the violence we required meant it would be R-rated in America and 18 in Europe, so we knew we could only spend about 40 million. It was not going to be big-budget, plus we knew we had a character that couldn't take off his helmet, which we wanted and was in our contract with the Kingsleys. So you can't then have a huge movie star whose face you don't see. We needed a great or good actor as opposed to a marquee name like Will Smith."



http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1975/dredd-2012-production-notes/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 July, 2012, 09:36:07 AM
Amazing that as the trailer was 12A rated, they are very good editing 18 rated film out to fools people which it would be mind-blowing at cinema! CAN't WAIT!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 05 July, 2012, 09:39:56 AM
Yes! people may want to avoid the plot synopsis as I did and have been doing on all sites. But for those wanting to read about the production side of things it makes for essential reading!

Reassuring to hear how much passion was put into the project!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 July, 2012, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 05 July, 2012, 09:36:07 AM
Amazing that as the trailer was 12A rated, they are very good editing 18 rated film out to fools people which it would be mind-blowing at cinema! CAN't WAIT!


Just cut out the blood.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 July, 2012, 09:53:00 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 05 July, 2012, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 05 July, 2012, 09:36:07 AM
Amazing that as the trailer was 12A rated, they are very good editing 18 rated film out to fools people which it would be mind-blowing at cinema! CAN't WAIT!


Just cut out the blood.

Yep, very good editing to do that!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 05 July, 2012, 10:03:58 AM
Really like this bit -

The actor did, however, insist on cutting down the dialogue and found a perfect collaborator in scripter Garland, "If it can be said in one sentence it would be better than three. I wanted it to be very minimalistic with Dredd just saying the bare minimum."

Just goes to show the level of understanding Urban has for Dredd'd psychological make up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 05 July, 2012, 10:26:45 AM
That just brought a big smile to my face. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 05 July, 2012, 11:51:26 AM
Yeah, that was really cool of Urban. Looks like we may get to hear the word creep after all. I sure hope so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 05 July, 2012, 11:51:39 AM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 05 July, 2012, 10:03:58 AM
Really like this bit -

The actor did, however, insist on cutting down the dialogue and found a perfect collaborator in scripter Garland, "If it can be said in one sentence it would be better than three. I wanted it to be very minimalistic with Dredd just saying the bare minimum."

Just goes to show the level of understanding Urban has for Dredd'd psychological make up.

Now that bodes well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 July, 2012, 11:52:14 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 05 July, 2012, 11:51:26 AM
Yeah, that was really cool of Urban. Looks like we may get to hear the word creep after all. I sure hope so.

Er... we did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmeQVFKe8c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmeQVFKe8c)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: rog on 05 July, 2012, 12:14:13 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 05 July, 2012, 12:19:38 AMOver on Karlurbaninternational there's the pRoduction notes from the press pack. They make very exciting reading!

http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1975/dredd-2012-production-notes/ (http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1975/dredd-2012-production-notes/)
Thanks for the link, makes fascinating reading.

Was particularly struck by the comments about Urban asking for lines to be cut: "If it can be said in one sentence it would be better than three. I wanted it to be very minimalistic with Dredd just saying the bare minimum. " Blimey, that's not like your usual Hollywood stars eh!

Everything I read about this film just gets me more and more excited about it! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 05 July, 2012, 01:16:45 PM
Just noticed something the [spoiler]character Kay played by Wood Harris is not listed as a character on IMDB or on Wood Harris' own list of film credits ,bit strange[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 05 July, 2012, 01:57:32 PM
IMDB had a character called Ma-Ma Dredd at one point. I wouldn't read anything into it.

Accuracy, and for that matter keeping a lid on trolls is not their strong suit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 05 July, 2012, 02:44:43 PM
With regards to the press pack...

Seems everyone involved gets a good mention, except Pete Travis. in fact apart from being mentioned in the creative team section, he has only one mention in the entire press pack. That has got to be a first for a director.

Even if there were problems during filming, this appears a bit churlish, and counter productive.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 05 July, 2012, 04:10:35 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 05 July, 2012, 02:44:43 PM
With regards to the press pack...

Seems everyone involved gets a good mention, except Pete Travis. in fact apart from being mentioned in the creative team section, he has only one mention in the entire press pack. That has got to be a first for a director.

Even if there were problems during filming, this appears a bit churlish, and counter productive.


Really? I thought he got several mentions and there were certainly more quotes from him regarding the production than I've read anywhere else.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 05 July, 2012, 04:16:58 PM
There are two quotes from him, but there is nothing on what he brought to the project, at all. He isn't mentioned, Just quoted. Its pretty rare for the director to be unmentioned don't you think?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 05 July, 2012, 05:29:45 PM
Dunno what the problem is. It's only a handful of successful directors who steer, develop and shepherd projects so you associate them with a certain movie and its success/failure. Most of them are just work-for-hire. This isn't unusual.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 05 July, 2012, 05:32:19 PM
Quite - look at the relationship between George Lucas and Irvin Kershner and Richard Marquand...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 05 July, 2012, 06:14:44 PM
And ALL the Marvel films.

I still say Spielberg was born to direct Captain America  >:(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 05 July, 2012, 06:15:27 PM
Yeah, I understand what your saying here, for instance; Danny Boyle is well credited with 28 Days later, yet you won't see much mention of Juan Carlos Fresnadillo for directing the follow up.

Still, in this press release they talk about the writer, the actors, the producers and the cinematographer, but not the director? Regardless of the hired gun status, it feels a bit off. He was an important part of the creative team.

Anyway, the big plus I got from reading the press release was that they are all stoked for this move, there's plenty of talk of a franchise and sequels. They sound universally confident that they are bringing us the goods. Yeah its a press release, what should I expect, but it sounds genuine.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 05 July, 2012, 06:37:15 PM
All we can do is suck it and see,and it's not like and 'name' directors have never made shit films.
It's a fingers crossed situation either way.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 05 July, 2012, 09:56:01 PM
"Thirlby has what Reich calls an "Indie New York actress" vibe to her and "that works perfectly. Anderson was based on Debbie Harry in John Wagner's mind and that key vibe Olivia has in spades. Dredd doesn't take his helmet off and that is hard for an actor and an audience and Anderson can't wear a helmet, luckily, because it interferes with her psychic ability. We can see her eyes, so she is our human way into the film and it was important to have an actress who could show that vulnerability as well as the strength to be a judge.""

Anne Lewis.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 July, 2012, 11:16:18 PM
Dredd 3D Facebook and Dredd offical website updated their cover; would like know what font it is, as 3 looks good.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403806_454754607881726_1477881716_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 July, 2012, 11:21:06 PM
I believe it's Agency FB Bold.


(http://www.gymarx.com/images/fonts/misc/Agency-FB-Bold.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 05 July, 2012, 11:22:35 PM
It could almost be the eye bit of the helmet if you turn it on its side.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 July, 2012, 11:26:01 PM
Quote from: Stan on 05 July, 2012, 09:56:01 PM

Anne Lewis.


While I don't think Nancy Allen ever had a New York indie vibe the RoboCop ref is there, but, the Cass Anderson and Joe Dredd partnership was around a lot earlier than RoboWeller hit the kinoplex.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 July, 2012, 12:09:31 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 05 July, 2012, 11:52:14 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 05 July, 2012, 11:51:26 AM
Yeah, that was really cool of Urban. Looks like we may get to hear the word creep after all. I sure hope so.

Er... we did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmeQVFKe8c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmeQVFKe8c)

In the movie.

Quote from: Goaty on 05 July, 2012, 11:16:18 PM
Dredd 3D Facebook and Dredd offical website updated their cover; would like know what font it is, as 3 looks good.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403806_454754607881726_1477881716_n.jpg)

Is that the same font as the old one? Looks slightly different, maybe the colour or texture?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 July, 2012, 12:10:20 AM
Looking at my sig, thinner it seems.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 July, 2012, 12:23:28 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 July, 2012, 12:09:31 AM
Is that the same font as the old one? Looks slightly different, maybe the colour or texture?


It's the same font.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 06 July, 2012, 12:38:18 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 July, 2012, 12:23:28 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 July, 2012, 12:09:31 AM
Is that the same font as the old one? Looks slightly different, maybe the colour or texture?


It's the same font.

Same font family, just ones condensed.

http://fontzone.net/download/Agency+FB+Bold/ (http://fontzone.net/download/Agency+FB+Bold/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 06 July, 2012, 02:54:51 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 05 July, 2012, 07:30:55 AM
Go on then Beaky, i'll bite- explain how V for Vendetta was about a noble right wing government and an evil freedom fighter in such a way that the audience's sympathies were significantly different than that of the movie.
SBT

It's not, IIRC, V for Vendetta - the graphic novel - was more or less about the two polar absolutes of totalitarianism and anarchism, whereas V for Vendetta - the film - changed that emphasis to turn the 'freedom fighters' into noble liberal warriors, they even mentioned it sometime around it's theatrical release about the change in certain aspects of the script to more reflect the Bush-era world it was made in, and whatever I may think of the Wachowski's personal politics (not to mention their personal 'proclivities', read the Rolling Stone article from a few years back for that sordid story), I actually really wish they'd directed ...Vendetta themselves rather than making or after finishing the Matrix sequels, they're genuinely talented and interesting filmmakers, and a darn sight better than James McTeague, still, roll on Cloud Atlas, that's going to be one unique film, however it turns out...

Quote from: Steve Green on 05 July, 2012, 05:32:19 PM
Quite - look at the relationship between George Lucas and Irvin Kershner and Richard Marquand...

That's what I've thought all along, Pete Travis was hired to direct Dredd on a purely technical capacity, the vision for that film is and always was DNA's...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 July, 2012, 11:58:58 AM
Jock tweet that he off to see Dredd in London today, lucky bugger!

Hope his reaction is good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 06 July, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
Just saw the trailer for the remake of Total Recall. How did that film get a $200M budget??! It looks great, the cityscape especially. I'm not saying it has much bearing on the overall quality but imagine what Dredd could've looked like with a budget like that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 06 July, 2012, 02:30:26 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 06 July, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
Just saw the trailer for the remake of Total Recall. How did that film get a $200M budget??! It looks great, the cityscape especially. I'm not saying it has much bearing on the overall quality but imagine what Dredd could've looked like with a budget like that.

Limited pallete is much better, seriously, with a bloated budget there can be just as much wasted potential. Distractions. Also, as I keep saying...sorry if I'm boringly repetitive, but, the lack of an orgasmobudget means they have to work harder with less...I honestly believe that's the recipe for success here because it won't look like so many other future visions...and will look maybe a bit more like early 70's sci-fi...essentially before star wars. It may feel a bit Soylent Green or Clockwork Orange or THX1138 (before Lucas went back and doctored it). To --- with what the mainstream idiots think...this will fit what I grew up with and what Dredd grew up with, a mix of cheap westerns and cheap sci-fi...and that's Dredd's  --- ing soul. Add to that what I've seen in the trailer...holy shit, I can't wait. Big budget can kiss my arse, few are any good. Warped by greed like everything else. None of the great art or stories on this comic were created with an eye to bucks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 06 July, 2012, 03:08:02 PM
I was actually mostly surprised that something like a remake Total Recall would get a budget like that. I wonder if this means Robocop will reach those levels as well.

Big budget can be good, or it can be bad. Palette is a decent metaphor. From what I've seen of the Dredd trailer I agree with you, it does look awesome. However, bringing the comicbook version of MC-1 to life in all its glory would require a bigger budget. As would several other Dredd concepts.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 July, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
But remake of Total Recall and Robocop are aimed for young generations.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 06 July, 2012, 03:14:36 PM
Lack of budget can be a blessing - I have no doubt that DREDD is going to be - at the very least - a much leaner, tighter film that Total Recall.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 July, 2012, 03:20:33 PM
Now it in this week 2000AD prog! Nice!

(http://i.imgur.com/5XOih.png?1)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 06 July, 2012, 03:41:30 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 06 July, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
Just saw the trailer for the remake of Total Recall. How did that film get a $200M budget??! It looks great, the cityscape especially. I'm not saying it has much bearing on the overall quality but imagine what Dredd could've looked like with a budget like that.

Yep. $200 mil. And watch it crash and burn at the box office. Dredd would've too with a budget like that. All style, no substance. What we've got is way better. Leaner, meaner.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 06 July, 2012, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 06 July, 2012, 03:08:02 PM
I was actually mostly surprised that something like a remake Total Recall would get a budget like that. I wonder if this means Robocop will reach those levels as well.

Big budget can be good, or it can be bad. Palette is a decent metaphor. From what I've seen of the Dredd trailer I agree with you, it does look awesome. However, bringing the comicbook version of MC-1 to life in all its glory would require a bigger budget. As would several other Dredd concepts.

Maybe the budget is up because PKD is more broadly known in the film industry as a genius because of Minority Report and a Scanner Darkly etc...but it is surprising. I thought the Arnie version seemed to date overnight.

Of course it would be great to see Dreddworld come alive. But I think if they had that dream budget they'dbe tempted to try and show everything, this way they have to allude and concentrate on what they have and not get lost. And this world will be distinct. I still can't believe this is happening.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 06 July, 2012, 03:51:44 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 06 July, 2012, 03:41:30 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 06 July, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
Just saw the trailer for the remake of Total Recall. How did that film get a $200M budget??! It looks great, the cityscape especially. I'm not saying it has much bearing on the overall quality but imagine what Dredd could've looked like with a budget like that.

Yep. $200 mil. And watch it crash and burn at the box office. Dredd would've too with a budget like that. All style, no substance. What we've got is way better. Leaner, meaner.
That the spirit!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 06 July, 2012, 03:53:36 PM
Quote from: radiator on 06 July, 2012, 03:14:36 PM
Lack of budget can be a blessing - I have no doubt that DREDD is going to be - at the very least - a much leaner, tighter film that Total Recall.
:)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 06 July, 2012, 03:56:52 PM
General movie-going public has no idea who PKD is, Booda and even if they did Total Recall doesn't bear much resemblance to his work. This is a point-for-point remake of the Schwarzenegger one but to be "clever" they don't go to Mars. At least Arnie's version was fun. This just looks leaden and pointless.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 06 July, 2012, 04:00:32 PM
"Its not where you're from its where you're at."

"Its not what you wear, its how you wear it."

"Its not how much money you have, its how you spend it."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 06 July, 2012, 04:08:09 PM
Wise, wise words forumite.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 06 July, 2012, 04:09:14 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 06 July, 2012, 03:46:07 PM
I thought the Arnie version seemed to date overnight.

Exactly what I felt as well, it looked awful just a few years after release, hence my surprise.
Then again, judging by the level of quality of average "remake" films, perhaps I shouldn't be.

I guess I just feel that Dredd deserves an epic level of buzz and budget. Even though the version we're about to get might be just the right recipe. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JamesC on 06 July, 2012, 04:34:50 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 06 July, 2012, 04:00:32 PM
"Its not where you're from its where you're at."

"Its not what you wear, its how you wear it."

"Its not how much money you have, its how you spend it."

Is that from 'The Cannonball Run' theme song?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 06 July, 2012, 04:35:56 PM
@Goaty: Thank you for the snippet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 06 July, 2012, 06:25:02 PM
"Damnation Alley" was 20th century Fox's big-budget sci-fi the same year that they made Star Wars for half the money: budgets smudgets, I say.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 July, 2012, 08:19:09 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 06 July, 2012, 03:46:07 PM

Maybe the budget is up because PKD is more broadly known in the film industry as a genius because of Minority Report and a Scanner Darkly etc...but it is surprising. I thought the Arnie version seemed to date overnight.



Total Recall got that budget because it's based on a previously successful property, as RoboCop is too. Budget is relative. The first Total Recall in 1990 cost $60 million, adjusting for inflation and cost, the same type of Hollywood film made 20 years later would probably cost $200 million, ergo TR's current budget. A Star Wars film cost $11 million back in 1976, it cost $115 million in 1998.

If the Itallion Stallion's Dredd had been successful it'd be a different story and we wouldn't be getting what's coming. There is a god, metaphysically speaking.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 06 July, 2012, 10:02:24 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 July, 2012, 08:19:09 PM
There is a god

No there isn't!  :'(

Total Recall 1990
Budget   $60 Million
Box office   $261 Million

Judge Dredd 1995
Budget   $90 million
Box office   $113 million
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 July, 2012, 10:07:58 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 06 July, 2012, 10:02:24 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 July, 2012, 08:19:09 PM
There is a god

No there isn't!  :'(

Total Recall 1990
Budget   $60 Million
Box office   $261 Million

Judge Dredd 1995
Budget   $90 million
Box office   $113 million


I'm happy with those figure, you must like Stallone.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 06 July, 2012, 10:16:26 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 July, 2012, 10:07:58 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 06 July, 2012, 10:02:24 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 July, 2012, 08:19:09 PM
There is a god

No there isn't!  :'(

Total Recall 1990
Budget   $60 Million
Box office   $261 Million

Judge Dredd 1995
Budget   $90 million
Box office   $113 million


I'm happy with those figure, you must like Stallone.
You say that like it's a bad thing, there's nothing wrong with Stallone, apart from his barely intelligible voice and his dodgy acting, but regardless, the man has made some pretty good Big Dumb Action Movies. Dredd was not one of them, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 July, 2012, 10:17:37 PM
I got to say, I like the opening of 1995 Judge Dredd but hate the film!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 06 July, 2012, 10:33:19 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 July, 2012, 10:17:37 PM
I got to say, I like the opening of 1995 Judge Dredd but hate the film!

That, Ian Drury and Hammerstein. Angel Gang had potential the rest you can bin.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 July, 2012, 10:40:04 PM
The only bit I like is the West Wall.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 06 July, 2012, 10:45:56 PM
That movie made Hammerstein look like a useless, clumsy, clunky, agricultural machine, that could be outsmarted by Rob 'Deuce Biggolo Male Giggilo' Schneider.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 06 July, 2012, 11:04:15 PM
Nar. He might have been beaten too easily (and that's debatable as I seem to remember him doing quite a bit of damage) but that was a cool looking robot. Possibly one of my favourite designs on film, I'd say.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 07 July, 2012, 01:37:56 AM
Maybe in a perfect world you've have a $200M Dredd film made by people who weren't prepared to compromise on the character, but that's as likely to happen as me winning the lottery.

With the route they've taken, I'm a lot more confident of seeing sequels featuring a main character actually done right. And to top it off I'm liking the old skool tone of the film anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 July, 2012, 02:10:51 AM
Total Recall dated? I disagree. Arnie's films age better with time in my opinion. This is not sarcasm by the way. I really enjoy them. They're probably not enjoyed in the way they were intended, but I have a great time and lots of laughs.


Anyways, back to budget. The makers of the film have said from the get go that they have a vision and it involves a R in the U.S.A and a 18 in Europe, (I only learned that recenlty) but they have stuck to their guns and gone for it, and that in my opinion is more valuable then the highest budget movie in the world.

There is nothing worse then a film that tries to please everyone, as all they will result in is a generic, bland piece of crap that will please no one. At least this way, there is a film that people will either enjoy or they won't, and I think most Dredd fans will be the former. As for everyone else, fuck 'em!


(On a side note, I was talking to a guy who saw the trailer, who grew up with 2000AD like I assume most of you guys did (inner brackets now, but I am only 20 so didn't) and he said he wasn't too impressed with mega city one, but I think I swayed him with talk of low budget and how boring most futuristic cities have become in films, with a bit of "how awesome was mad max?"

I still stand firm that this film is gonna rock everyone's fucking socks off, and although I loved the trailer, I can see how it might not appeal to more people then it did, but in a way it's good thing, as there is no better feeling then being pleasantly surprised after watching a film. (Well, there is, but it's still a petty darn good feeling.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 07 July, 2012, 04:06:14 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 July, 2012, 10:17:37 PM
I got to say, I like the opening of 1995 Judge Dredd but hate the film!

The first twenty minutes (up until the end of the Block War sequence) was magnificent; epic and action-packed... after that, it fell off the cliff straight into the abyss, and it was bye bye from there on in...

Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 06 July, 2012, 10:33:19 PM
That, Ian Drury and Hammerstein. Angel Gang had potential the rest you can bin.

They're Mega-City One was pretty darn good, admittedly...

Quote from: pops1983 on 06 July, 2012, 10:45:56 PM
That movie made Hammerstein look like a useless, clumsy, clunky, agricultural machine, that could be outsmarted by Rob 'Deuce Biggolo Male Giggilo' Schneider.

They should have went with a mixture of on-set animatronics and Go-Motion puppetry, IMHO, like the Kane droid in RoboCop 2...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 07 July, 2012, 04:16:19 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 July, 2012, 08:19:09 PM
A Star Wars film cost $11 million back in 1976, it cost $115 million in 1998.

That was the prequels that cost that amount, the original 1977 movie would cost a mere $40m if made today - http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolpinchefsky/2012/01/17/what-would-star-wars-cost-in-2012-dollars/ - a bargain even by today's standard...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 07 July, 2012, 05:16:32 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 06 July, 2012, 03:56:52 PM
General movie-going public has no idea who PKD is, Booda ....Arnie's version was fun. This just looks leaden and pointless.

...I guess that's true, so no Valis anytime soon then. Arnie's version was fun, but I feel the Mars city interiors were very dated quickly. I'm not sure how that's avoided but.

Who am I kidding?... It just comes down to numbers as Joe Soap said.

First ten minutes of JD was good, the cityscape in daylight was a welcome relief ...the wall, I too liked Hammerstien and Mean....ok, confession time.
I feel, deep down, terribly guilty, that I somehow 'manifested' that film at a pals birthday in 82, we watched First-Blood and when Stallone escapes the police station, I said 'he'd make a good Dredd'.
I know, boo-hoo, sob, it was all my fault..been bandaging the stigmata since 95.

Mea culpa....But you know, no big fan of Stallone, but if he'd played it more of a punk-ass and less the erect codpiece it might have been very much better. But that story was terrible.

It's funny to me how many think Clancy Brown would be right. I thought that after Shawshank Redemption, had to look him up and had no idea he was in Highlander. He'd play a particular kind of Dredd very well.
But for the young Whitey era Dredd, Urban is a perfect cast.

The way KU underplays 'I am the law' is superb...what a wise choice as an actor.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 07 July, 2012, 05:20:44 AM
..oh and Ian Dury, great that he was there!...'hit me with your day stick'...too bad that didn't get said.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 07 July, 2012, 07:25:48 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 07 July, 2012, 04:06:14 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 July, 2012, 10:17:37 PM
I got to say, I like the opening of 1995 Judge Dredd but hate the film!

The first twenty minutes (up until the end of the Block War sequence) was magnificent; epic and action-packed... after that, it fell off the cliff straight into the abyss, and it was bye bye from there on in...

Really? I thought it fell straight into the abyss right from Stallones immortal opening line "I em... the Ler!", a rendition which is mercilessly mocked and lambasted throughout all of internetland - and rightly so.

The irony is that Stallone insisted on taking the helmet off in order to be recognised, when in fact this was completely unnecessary. It was obviously Stallone in the Dredd costume right from the first few seconds of his appearance, and couldn't possibly have been mistaken for anyone else. Even before he took the helmet off he was projecting his persona (not Dredd's) right through it in any case.

Now I have nothing against Stallone, after all most of the roles he plays in other movies are not preexisting characters from other media, so he's able to define these characters with his performances. Dredd, on the other hand, was already defined as a comic book character. This rather cheapened Stallone's performance in this case because he was not able to define Dredd. The best he could manage was to do a bad impression of him. In my opinion, a really bad impression.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve DGenerate on 07 July, 2012, 07:59:09 AM
Best movie Stallone has ever been in is "Copland" (with possibly "Deathrace 2000" as runner up?).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JamesC on 07 July, 2012, 08:18:13 AM
Nah, the Rocky films and Tango & Cash are all better than Copland!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 07 July, 2012, 09:15:10 AM
Copland: The Director's Cut ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 07 July, 2012, 10:24:56 AM
I've always wondered the best way to type Stallone's utterance.  I usually go with 'Uh Um Du Loh!'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 07 July, 2012, 11:15:17 AM
Quote from: pops1983 on 06 July, 2012, 10:16:26 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 July, 2012, 10:07:58 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 06 July, 2012, 10:02:24 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 July, 2012, 08:19:09 PM
There is a god

No there isn't!  :'(

Total Recall 1990
Budget   $60 Million
Box office   $261 Million

Judge Dredd 1995
Budget   $90 million
Box office   $113 million


I'm happy with those figure, you must like Stallone.
You say that like it's a bad thing, there's nothing wrong with Stallone, apart from his barely intelligible voice and his dodgy acting, but regardless, the man has made some pretty good Big Dumb Action Movies. Dredd was not one of them, unfortunately.

Do I? Or are you just interpreting my post in the least favorable light? I merely wished to point out how much I wished those numbers had been switched, that the 95 Dredd had been good.

Some of Arnie's old films are still spectacular, the first Terminator especially. Total Recall however is not one of them.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 07 July, 2012, 11:23:16 AM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 07 July, 2012, 07:25:48 AM

Really? I thought it fell straight into the abyss right from Stallones immortal opening line "I em... the Ler!", a rendition which is mercilessly mocked and lambasted throughout all of internetland - and rightly so.


The thing that I first objected to is his self-satisfied smirk as he gets off the Lawmaster in the very first shot of his face. It's like he says "Hey, it's me! Don't I look awesome in this costume."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 11:24:31 AM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 07 July, 2012, 11:15:17 AM

Do I? Or are you just interpreting my post in the least favorable light? I merely wished to point out how much I wished those numbers had been switched, that the 95 Dredd had been good.




You're not thinking about the consequences of that wish. If Stallone issue #'95 had been successful we'd have been subjected to yet more bad Stallone films posing as Dredd simply because their way of doing it would be proven as correct in their minds and we wouldn't be getting the more genuine and authentic Dredd we're getting now, so yes, it's a good thing Stallone issue #'95 was a flop.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 07 July, 2012, 11:28:22 AM
Is that Q+A panel at that London Comic con with Urban and co today?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 07 July, 2012, 11:31:03 AM
@Danbo: Yup.
Saturday: 5.00pm-5.45pm (UK time)
Sunday: 5.00pm-5.45pm (UK time)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 07 July, 2012, 11:39:56 AM
Cool,might get some goss.
Anyone going?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 07 July, 2012, 11:42:20 AM
argh edit button please....

Anyone going.Would love for someone to ask about merchandise, if we will get any deluxe collectibles.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 07 July, 2012, 11:43:36 AM
Not going ... :( but every words and pics and details are appreciated :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 07 July, 2012, 12:49:53 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 07 July, 2012, 11:23:16 AM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 07 July, 2012, 07:25:48 AM

Really? I thought it fell straight into the abyss right from Stallones immortal opening line "I em... the Ler!", a rendition which is mercilessly mocked and lambasted throughout all of internetland - and rightly so.


The thing that I first objected to is his self-satisfied smirk as he gets off the Lawmaster in the very first shot of his face. It's like he says "Hey, it's me! Don't I look awesome in this costume."

Couldn't agree more. He looks smug and self-satisfied. Dredd is anything but. Even his pose is wrong, everything is wrong. The follow-up where he spouts some bullshit about being out of range of the weapons the perps are using therefore there's no need to take cover is wrong. What? He can see through walls and tell for sure nobody's lurking around with anything more deadly now? Dredd would never be so complacent. Wrong, wrong wrong. The Dredd we're watching here is closer to Mark Millar's Dredd than anything Wagner ever wrote, and we all know how wrong he got it. Even then, it still misses the mark. Stallone's Dredd really doesn't resemble any version of Dredd we know from the pages of 2000AD.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 07 July, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
When Stallone discovered how much the fans hated his version of Dredd, he was heartbroken and sought advice from one of America's greatest actors...this was all captured on film, true story, honest. This is what that actor said...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqPRwq3QJsk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 07 July, 2012, 01:03:30 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 07 July, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
When Stallone discovered how much the fans hated his version of Dredd, he was heartbroken and sought advice from one of America's greatest actors...this was all captured on film, true story, honest. This is what that actor said...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqPRwq3QJsk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Perfection. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 07 July, 2012, 03:15:17 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 07 July, 2012, 01:03:30 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 07 July, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
When Stallone discovered how much the fans hated his version of Dredd, he was heartbroken and sought advice from one of America's greatest actors...this was all captured on film, true story, honest. This is what that actor said...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqPRwq3QJsk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Perfection. :lol:


That's brilliant!  I laughed till snot came out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 07 July, 2012, 03:19:35 PM
Jock liked it

QuoteHeading to the #DREDD movie panel at LFCC. Loved the movie. A visceral, violent, beautiful looking thriller....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 07 July, 2012, 03:52:09 PM
Nice
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 07 July, 2012, 04:08:36 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 11:24:31 AM
You're not thinking about the consequences of that wish. If Stallone issue #'95 had been successful we'd have been subjected to yet more bad Stallone films posing as Dredd simply because their way of doing it would be proven as correct in their minds and we wouldn't be getting the more genuine and authentic Dredd we're getting now, so yes, it's a good thing Stallone issue #'95 was a flop.

You're not getting me Joe. I'm talking about a GOOD Dredd, not merely a financially successful one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 07 July, 2012, 04:30:22 PM
Quote from: Steve DGenerate on 07 July, 2012, 07:59:09 AM
Best movie Stallone has ever been in is "Copland" (with possibly "Deathrace 2000" as runner up?).

Copland he actually acted in that and pretty well I thought. Mind you the character portrayed complimented Stallone to a t.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 07 July, 2012, 04:32:45 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 07 July, 2012, 04:08:36 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 11:24:31 AM
You're not thinking about the consequences of that wish. If Stallone issue #'95 had been successful we'd have been subjected to yet more bad Stallone films posing as Dredd simply because their way of doing it would be proven as correct in their minds and we wouldn't be getting the more genuine and authentic Dredd we're getting now, so yes, it's a good thing Stallone issue #'95 was a flop.

You're not getting me Joe. I'm talking about a GOOD Dredd, not merely a financially successful one.

Whats to say this one wont be good and financially positive ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 07 July, 2012, 05:01:45 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 07 July, 2012, 12:49:53 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 07 July, 2012, 11:23:16 AM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 07 July, 2012, 07:25:48 AM

Really? I thought it fell straight into the abyss right from Stallones immortal opening line "I em... the Ler!", a rendition which is mercilessly mocked and lambasted throughout all of internetland - and rightly so.


The thing that I first objected to is his self-satisfied smirk as he gets off the Lawmaster in the very first shot of his face. It's like he says "Hey, it's me! Don't I look awesome in this costume."

Couldn't agree more. He looks smug and self-satisfied. Dredd is anything but. Even his pose is wrong, everything is wrong. The follow-up where he spouts some bullshit about being out of range of the weapons the perps are using therefore there's no need to take cover is wrong. What? He can see through walls and tell for sure nobody's lurking around with anything more deadly now? Dredd would never be so complacent...

I never did get that scene, especially since there were bullets hitting the floor all around him. It's like they deliberately tried to make it as pointlessly nonsensical and stupid as humanly possible.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 07 July, 2012, 05:04:59 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 07 July, 2012, 11:31:03 AM
@Danbo: Yup.
Saturday: 5.00pm-5.45pm (UK time)
Sunday: 5.00pm-5.45pm (UK time)

Anyone who makes an appearance is commanded to ask the following question(s).

"Were the other dark judges in the Death's Head Judge Death script, and were their origins the same as the comic?"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 07 July, 2012, 05:10:01 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 07 July, 2012, 04:08:36 PM
I'm talking about a GOOD Dredd, not merely a financially successful one.

There's Sophie's Choice for yez!

Entirely hypothetically, if you had to choose between a Dredd that was financially successful (but was as shit as the Stallone film) and a Dredd film that was a great film that really conveyed the essence of the character and his world- but died a death at the pictures- which would you all choose?

First one to point out that we all want a Dredd film that does both is a boring bastard.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 07 July, 2012, 06:52:36 PM
We all want a Dredd film that does both.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 07 July, 2012, 06:54:19 PM
So someone has tweeted about that London comic convention and said DREDD will be an 18 cert?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 July, 2012, 06:56:17 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 07 July, 2012, 06:54:19 PM
So someone has tweeted about that London comic convention and said DREDD will be an 18 cert?!

Awesome!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 07 July, 2012, 06:57:42 PM
Couple of snippets about today's Dredd panel have popped up on Twitter:

Quote from: @StealthBudaDredd panel at ‪#LFCC‬ Sep 7 release date in the UK. Two weeks before the US. 18 certificate.

Quote from: @adam_rayThe ‪#dredd‬ panel at ‪#LFCC‬ was ace and the first look at a new scene looked cool - even @RealKarlUrban saw it for the first time!

Quote from: @CinemartNowDREDD‬ looked pretty cool. Nice look and a John Carpentery score. ‪#LFCC
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 07 July, 2012, 07:10:30 PM
This is getting ridiculous, can expectations get any higher. "a John Carpentry score"?!! Are there any sound bites available anywhere?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 07 July, 2012, 07:11:55 PM
I'm really concerned it's an 18 cert to be honest.

Might have shot themselves in the foot with regards to their target audience

I'm worried for a sequel now
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 07 July, 2012, 07:18:21 PM
All comments I'm seeing on Twitter have been positive so far.  Also, there was this, from Jock:

QuoteSpecial mention to John Burdis and friend,who stood fast in their judge uniforms and didn't turn round to watch the clip.That must have hurt

Now there's dedication for you. :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 07 July, 2012, 07:24:03 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 07 July, 2012, 07:11:55 PM
I'm really concerned it's an 18 cert to be honest.

Might have shot themselves in the foot with regards to their target audience

I'm worried for a sequel now

If the Saw films can find a loyal audience for an R Rated film I think Dredd Can too. The Audience is there, judging by the kind of films that are successful on DVD. I think its a case of building an awareness of Dredd through good word of mouth.

A possible concern is that a film like Scott Pilgrim had great early word of mouth which didn't translate into good box office. But Dredd is a more well known property even in the US, due to the cult status of the Stallone flick.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 07 July, 2012, 07:34:39 PM
Quote from: a chosen rider on 07 July, 2012, 06:57:42 PM
Quote from: @CinemartNowDREDD‬ looked pretty cool. Nice look and a John Carpentery score. ‪#LFCC

Interesting. Drokk also sounded very John carpenter / Brad Fiedel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 07:36:57 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 07 July, 2012, 07:11:55 PM
I'm really concerned it's an 18 cert to be honest.

Might have shot themselves in the foot with regards to their target audience

I'm worried for a sequel now


That's why the only spent $40 million on it, they knew they could get their money back and more. I'm not worried. Dredd has a fairly sizeable world-wide audience.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 07 July, 2012, 07:39:11 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 07 July, 2012, 07:11:55 PM
I'm really concerned it's an 18 cert to be honest.

Might have shot themselves in the foot with regards to their target audience

I'm worried for a sequel now

But that is their target audience. :P As long as the film itself is good then it should be as worthy of sequels as Robocop, Predator, and Alien. If it's crap then I probably won't care. B)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 07:41:29 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 07 July, 2012, 07:24:03 PM
A possible concern is that a film like Scott Pilgrim had great early word of mouth which didn't translate into good box office.

Scott Pilgrim cost too much and had more of an indie comic appeal which is always a risk. Dredd is a  broad-based action-film with political subtext. They're not really comparable and I know which one I'd bet on.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 07 July, 2012, 08:01:23 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 07:41:29 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 07 July, 2012, 07:24:03 PM
A possible concern is that a film like Scott Pilgrim had great early word of mouth which didn't translate into good box office.

Scott Pilgrim cost too much and had more of an indie comic appeal which is always a risk. Dredd is a  broad-based action-film with political subtext. They're not really comparable and I know which one I'd bet on.

Yep, on the budget factor alone Dredd is less of a concern. Studios are routinely throwing $60 mil at films that to my mind have much narrower appeal than Dredd. Its a good thing that Dredd is so cheap and I'm guessing that depending on whether it makes a modest but good amount in the cinemas rather than something like $200 mil they'll want to keep the budget of the sequels quite low too.

In the past it was possible to make fun and violent action films like Total Recall aimed at an adult audience that made a lot of money back. But those were also the days when big names like Schwarzenegger guaranteed success. 

I would like Dredd to make way more than anticipated, which would make it more likely that we'll see more larger scale sequels like Total War or the Apocalypse War.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 08:03:49 PM
Garlan'ds proposed sequels are reportedly:


Film II: Cursed Eath/Origins story.


Film III: Dark Judges.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 07 July, 2012, 08:04:44 PM
http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,34200.msg652764.html#msg652764 (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,34200.msg652764.html#msg652764)

I thought it was a good idea at the time, no one else did.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 08:12:39 PM
Probably because it's an obvious follow up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 07 July, 2012, 08:14:04 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 08:12:39 PM
Probably because it's an obvious follow up.

I know, that is why I said it.

A mutant Judge Death was of more interest at the time. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 07 July, 2012, 08:15:16 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 08:03:49 PM

Film II: Cursed Eath/Origins story.


Would much prefer something connected to the democracy storyline, but Origins could conceivably encompass this.

Didn't JW say himself say that Origins was the necessary story Arch just to tie things up? It was a fantastic Arch but I think the film makers could go another way.

To me an Origin story is always going to be less exciting and to be honest Judge Dredd Existed far more years than most other long running comic series without having to resort to telling the origin story; 30 years.

For now I suppose this is all speculation anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 08:20:20 PM
It's old school Dredd and should be followed by Revolution rather than Judge Death.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 07 July, 2012, 08:31:16 PM
Dredd V's Satanus   :o  could I dare to dream such AWESOME.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 07 July, 2012, 08:48:47 PM
I'm kinda torn on Cursed Earth. It's a good choice...BUT, as a second movie it seems a little early to leave Meg One behind.

I would be quite happy with those two sequels though. And what a finale it could be..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 07 July, 2012, 08:56:02 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 08:03:49 PM
Garlan'ds proposed sequels are reportedly:


Film II: Cursed Eath/Origins story.


Film III: Dark Judges.

That's my drokkin' wishlist right there!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: doggettX on 07 July, 2012, 09:04:56 PM
Quote from: Light Surfer on 03 July, 2012, 08:19:01 PM
Quote from: doggettX on 03 July, 2012, 06:05:45 PM

Not everyone.
Some have seen it 'leeked' and called it a GOOD MOVIE.

And who can argue with that.

Good, I stopped looking. So many people seemed so dismissive of something not even out yet. Was the Stallone version THAT popular? I felt like joining some forums just to put the record straight, but what the hell.....
And just how many people have seen The Raid? Must be one of the box office hits of the year.
Hopefully people won't be put off by others claiming this a cheap remake of a camp 90's Stallone romp. I reckon once reviews start coming out things will change. The trailer has gone down, on the whole, pretty well.

In other news....Prog 1789....letters page....Tharg.....vinegar stroke?

That was a YouTube joke that may have gone over your head a little...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 07 July, 2012, 09:11:22 PM
Hey, have you guys seen the pics of CF with Karl Urban?!?  In full uniform!

Commando Forces, you are my new hero!   Well done that man!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 07 July, 2012, 09:28:21 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 07 July, 2012, 09:11:22 PM
Hey, have you guys seen the pics of CF with Karl Urban?!?  In full uniform!

Commando Forces, you are my new hero!   Well done that man!

Do you have a link?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 07 July, 2012, 09:31:29 PM
Quote from: Stan on 07 July, 2012, 08:48:47 PM
I'm kinda torn on Cursed Earth. It's a good choice...BUT, as a second movie it seems a little early to leave Meg One behind.

I feel the same way, especially as [spoiler]much of this film will be in one location. It's be nice if the sequel was spent more on the street.[/spoiler] (I probably didn't need to spoilerize that as I'm sure you all know that by now, particularly as it's in the synopsis but anyway.)

That being said, it would be great to see more of the cursed Earth in future, but maybe not so soon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 07 July, 2012, 09:33:05 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 07 July, 2012, 09:28:21 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 07 July, 2012, 09:11:22 PM
Hey, have you guys seen the pics of CF with Karl Urban?!?  In full uniform!

Commando Forces, you are my new hero!   Well done that man!

Do you have a link?

It's on the Planet Replicas Facebook page.  I'm on iPad Facebook,  and have no idea how to get the link, sorry!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 07 July, 2012, 09:36:11 PM
I figured it out!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=972749&l=0597bc5029&id=210243555678341
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 07 July, 2012, 09:44:10 PM
A report on today's Dredd panel here (http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2012/07/london-film-and-comic-con-2012-dredd.html).  (Spoilers for the footage that was shown.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 07 July, 2012, 09:51:17 PM
[spoiler]'Dredd dispatches a 'hot shot' from his lawmaker, the round implanting itself in the perp's face and frying his head from the inside out.'

Nice. But I thought HoT Shot was a heatseeker not a heat maker.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 07 July, 2012, 09:54:28 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 07 July, 2012, 08:56:02 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 08:03:49 PM
Garlan'ds proposed sequels are reportedly:

Film II: Cursed Eath/Origins story.

Film III: Dark Judges.

That's my drokkin' wishlist right there!

Sequels? Do a Donner, make two films back-to-back and conflate the various Democracy storylines in both. The first sequel could use 'Letter From a Democrat' as its prologue, then play out as 'The Graveyard Shift'/'Back on the Streets' before becoming 'Revolution' maybe mixed with 'Block Mania' and riffing the same cliffhanger. The second sequel could be some Total Apocalypse War mash-up with a splash of AMERICA and, dare I say it, 'Twilight's Last Gleaming'. 'The Cursed Earth' can wait as should any story beyond the confines of Mega-City One.

And bollocks to the Dark Judges. If you really must, save 'em for some Anderson spin-off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 07 July, 2012, 10:03:59 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 07 July, 2012, 09:51:17 PM
Nice. But I thought HoT Shot was a heatseeker not a heat maker.[/spoiler]

That's what I thought too. [spoiler]And wouldn't a heatseeker in that situation home in on the first person, i.e. the hostage? Or maybe the heat-seeker rounds in this film work in a similar way to that 80s film with Tom Seleck. I forget the name, but it was a near future film about rogue robots. The main antagonist has a cool gun which shoots 'smart' bullets (mini missiles really) which home in on the target's individual heat signature and explode on impact. I think it's a film that's derided, but I saw it twice as a youngster and thoroughly enjoyed it.[/spoiler]

Concerning my earlier worries concerning the sequel idea, I do find what was said promising:

Quote[spoiler]the second movie would see Dredd visiting the Cursed Earth and exploring the history of Mega City One[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Visiting[/spoiler] at leeast suggest it won't all be set there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 07 July, 2012, 10:17:39 PM
Liked the scene description ... a good solid rated 18 as hoped for. Mr.  Garland seems to have nailed this and l hope it makes the money required for his proposed sequels.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 07 July, 2012, 10:27:08 PM

Quotethat 80s film with Tom Seleck.

Runaway
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 10:29:51 PM
and Jean Gene Simmons


(http://www.necramonium.com/photos/-Rare-Gene-Simmons-Pict/Gene84.7.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 07 July, 2012, 10:50:20 PM
It's the weird spider things I mostly remember from that film.

Quote from: Mardroid on 07 July, 2012, 10:03:59 PM
Quote[spoiler]the second movie would see Dredd visiting the Cursed Earth and exploring the history of Mega City One[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Visiting[/spoiler] at leeast suggest it won't all be set there.

Yeah, I took it to mean the comic version. Ultimately I'm cool either way.

Now if they could just hit the $50 million mark..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 07 July, 2012, 10:54:24 PM
John Burdis never turned around to  view the clip!

Man! I salute his resolve! Don't think I could of resisted!

Still, there's always tomorrow!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 07 July, 2012, 10:59:27 PM
Just got back home, 33 hours with no sleep and yes it Drokkin' killed me to not turn around, even when Alex told me to when he came up to me  :'(

Still, he has said I can turn around tomorrow. Full story to come later  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 July, 2012, 11:00:07 PM
"He's itching, he's just not scratching"

Dredd would have approved.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 07 July, 2012, 11:04:22 PM
*reading the last pages and comments* I think I finally understood !today! what CF really means. Oh my god. *a whole lightbulb fabric enlightenes*  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 July, 2012, 11:21:12 PM
CF lights all our lives... especially Pete Wells.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 07 July, 2012, 11:26:02 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 07 July, 2012, 10:59:27 PM
Just got back home, 33 hours with no sleep and yes it Drokkin' killed me to not turn around, even when Alex told me to when he came up to me  :'(

Still, he has said I can turn around tomorrow. Full story to come later  :D

Sounds like a frikkin awesome day! Cant wait to hear what happens tomorrow. Id go get 6 in the sleep tank ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 07 July, 2012, 11:27:21 PM
I now have some pics from Steve, so stand by  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 07 July, 2012, 11:43:14 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 07 July, 2012, 03:15:17 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 07 July, 2012, 01:03:30 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 07 July, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
When Stallone discovered how much the fans hated his version of Dredd, he was heartbroken and sought advice from one of America's greatest actors...this was all captured on film, true story, honest. This is what that actor said...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqPRwq3QJsk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Perfection. :lol:


That's brilliant!  I laughed till snot came out.
Can I put both those quotes on my C V?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 07 July, 2012, 11:48:29 PM
Quote from: a chosen rider on 07 July, 2012, 07:18:21 PM
All comments I'm seeing on Twitter have been positive so far.  Also, there was this, from Jock:

QuoteSpecial mention to John Burdis and friend,who stood fast in their judge uniforms and didn't turn round to watch the clip.That must have hurt

Now there's dedication for you. :o
Unreal commando commitment...that's the spirit - going commando !
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 07 July, 2012, 11:49:16 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 07 July, 2012, 11:27:21 PM
I now have some pics from Steve, so stand by  ;)

Can't wait to see the pics!

I'm going tomorrow John. Just as an idea of planning, how long were the autograph and Dredd panel lines?

Regarding specifically the panel. Is there a maximum amount of people they are letting in and do you need a ticket to get in?

Cheers!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 07 July, 2012, 11:58:24 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 07 July, 2012, 09:36:11 PM
I figured it out!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=972749&l=0597bc5029&id=210243555678341

I'm afraid of the one with the helmet on!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 July, 2012, 12:04:14 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 07 July, 2012, 10:59:27 PM
Just got back home, 33 hours with no sleep and yes it Drokkin' killed me to not turn around, even when Alex told me to when he came up to me  :'(

Still, he has said I can turn around tomorrow. Full story to come later  :D
Your not turning around ...is too big. Soldier
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 July, 2012, 12:07:23 AM
'you're'...where dat bloody modify? >:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2012, 12:13:35 AM
Okay all you people who must turn up this Sunday, here's some pics, courtesy of Steve Green from the day, ENJOY  :D

I look at the face of my prey and prepare for the task ahead, to get Karl into the Cellar!
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/LFCC%202012/_MG_9109.jpg)

But first up I must administer some beatings to all the perps, aided by Judge Court!
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/LFCC%202012/_MG_9157.jpg)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/LFCC%202012/_MG_9250.jpg)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/LFCC%202012/_MG_9159.jpg)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/LFCC%202012/_MG_9210.jpg)

Now to sort out some of the scantily clad ladies (which is everything that is wrong with comics nowadays)  :o

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/LFCC%202012/_MG_9124.jpg)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/LFCC%202012/_MG_9161.jpg)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/LFCC%202012/_MG_9144.jpg)

I needed a toilet break and found a suitable place!
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/LFCC%202012/_MG_9201.jpg)

Before I found Karl I killed the Joker!
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/LFCC%202012/_MG_9178.jpg)

I finally found Karl, as you all know by now  ;)
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/LFCC%202012/img017.jpg)

Then I found my mate Alex and did my audition for the sequel and yes I will wear the helmet.
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/LFCC%202012/_MG_9252.jpg)

After wiping out the Seven noble families of Westeros I needed a rest  ;)
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/LFCC%202012/img015.jpg)

Now I do have more pics but they will go on Facebook, I'll do a report tomorrow night but I shall answer the questions!

If you want pics with the stars you need to get there early and buy your ticket from another long queue inside the building. Me and Dave got 42 & 43 today (I'm 18 tomorrow). They call you forward in groups of 50 and then you get seconds with the chosen star. I don't know about the signing stuff but you do get longer, slightly!
Some of the pics went past 750 and they missed out, so get there early!

For the Dredd panel you need to get along to stage A and pick up a green Dredd ticket, otherwise you may miss out. I gave my ticket away today to another person, I am so kind!

I hope that helps you. The main thing is to get there early, pay £12 for the early bird at 09:00 and get those tickets sorted  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2012, 12:17:41 AM
And here's me not watching the clip  :'( :'( :'(

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/LFCC%202012/_MG_9275.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 08 July, 2012, 12:20:11 AM
Excellent!

How well received was the clip?Oh and can you tell us what you HEARD??! :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 08 July, 2012, 12:25:56 AM
 :D fantastic stuff CF.  Especially liking the cosplay pic's of you and the ladies and the ones with Karl and Alex.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 July, 2012, 12:26:57 AM
That 'not watching the clip' snap is the best!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 08 July, 2012, 12:27:31 AM
Cheers for the info John!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2012, 12:27:39 AM
Believe me, it wasn't for me  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 08 July, 2012, 12:29:44 AM
Very cool pics too!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 July, 2012, 12:29:56 AM
If only you'd shown the same resolve with the scantily clad ladies...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 July, 2012, 12:30:42 AM
That's awesome.. Had I paid attention I would've been there too today.. Alas.. Tomorrow it's RAF Fairford though.. After all, I know how it ends anyway..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 July, 2012, 12:31:02 AM
..love the Ted pic, by the way..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2012, 12:31:08 AM
The visor means that they can't see where I'm looking  ;)



But they know  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2012, 12:31:56 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 08 July, 2012, 12:31:02 AM
..love the Ted pic, by the way..

That was Steve's idea and very good it was too. Many pics were taken of me doing that!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 July, 2012, 12:33:43 AM
Very cool pics. glad the joker bought some instant justice :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 July, 2012, 12:36:38 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2012, 12:31:08 AM
The visor means that they can't see where I'm looking  ;)



But they know  ;)
Looking forward to some of these visor monologues, Commando Forces!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 08 July, 2012, 12:49:36 AM
@CF: Thank you for sharing your story from today, and maybe from tomorow too. Already love the pic with you and Karl, and now I also love the Alex photo. Is so funny. I hope he gave you an autograph on the screenshot from the trailer :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2012, 12:52:49 AM
Everything (well, not quite everything) will be revealed tomorrow  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 08 July, 2012, 12:53:28 AM
You know what..if that's the type of women you get at comic conventions I think I'm going to bite the bullet and embrace the nerd in me..

I'm in lust
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2012, 12:56:13 AM
They are EVERYWHERE  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 08 July, 2012, 12:57:23 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2012, 12:56:13 AM
They are EVERYWHERE  :o

Bet your Daystick was curious! :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 08 July, 2012, 12:57:45 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2012, 12:56:13 AM
They are EVERYWHERE  :o

I reckon it's worth the price of the Dredd costume just as an ice breaker CF

Haha
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2012, 01:00:15 AM
Let's just say that one lady rubbed her leg up my front and it touched my daystick  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 08 July, 2012, 01:02:29 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2012, 01:00:15 AM
Let's just say that one lady rubbed her leg up my front and it touched my daystick  ;)

I'd be like a Juve in an Umpty Shop..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 08 July, 2012, 03:49:29 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 08:03:49 PM
Garlan'ds proposed sequels are reportedly:
Film II: Cursed Eath/Origins story.
Film III: Dark Judges.

Still not entirely sold on the Cursed Earth, but with Garland and co doing it, good enough (and I've no doubt it will be, and then some!), and as for that third film, you can take my money right now, I am THERE already... Bruce Spence for Death!  I presume they've pretty much ditched the 'pro-democracy terrorism' early draft idea, pity, I really liked that concept for a Dredd sequel, still, onwards and upwards...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 08 July, 2012, 03:50:28 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 10:29:51 PM
and Jean Gene Simmons
(http://www.necramonium.com/photos/-Rare-Gene-Simmons-Pict/Gene84.7.jpg)

With his 'Love Gun' no doubt :D...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 08 July, 2012, 06:45:21 AM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 08 July, 2012, 12:57:23 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2012, 12:56:13 AM
They are EVERYWHERE  :o

Bet your Daystick was curious! :lol:
BWHAHAHAHAHA   coffee almost allover my laptop with that one.

And CF,you sir are a legend.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 July, 2012, 07:59:26 AM
Worth it to get next issue of ScifiNow in August? as it shows what on next issue?

It's got JudgEment! Lol

(http://i.imgur.com/4RHLR.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 08 July, 2012, 08:47:57 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 08 July, 2012, 03:49:29 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 08:03:49 PM
Garlan'ds proposed sequels are reportedly:
Film II: Cursed Eath/Origins story.
Film III: Dark Judges.

Still not entirely sold on the Cursed Earth, but with Garland and co doing it, good enough (and I've no doubt it will be, and then some!), and as for that third film, you can take my money right now, I am THERE already... Bruce Spence for Death!  I presume they've pretty much ditched the 'pro-democracy terrorism' early draft idea, pity, I really liked that concept for a Dredd sequel, still, onwards and upwards...

Come to think of it, if the Judda and the rogue clone judges are somehow introduced into a cursed earth story, this could be combined with the Dark Judge story.

Psychic mutant clones of Dredd with teleportation technology.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 08 July, 2012, 10:20:47 AM
Fantastic shots! Hope you had the chance to judge Joffrey while in Westeros. Hate that little shit. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 July, 2012, 11:02:11 AM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 08 July, 2012, 08:47:57 AM

Come to think of it, if the Judda and the rogue clone judges are somehow introduced into a cursed earth story, this could be combined with the Dark Judge story.

Psychic mutant clones of Dredd with teleportation technology.



Why not just do a Judda story then instead of convoluting a way to shoehorn in the Dark Judges?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 08 July, 2012, 11:27:20 AM
I think that any future Dredd movies should stay away from clones, they have been done to death.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 08 July, 2012, 11:29:18 AM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 08 July, 2012, 11:27:20 AM
I think that any future Dredd movies should stay away from clones, they have been done to death.

Any Dredd film's going to feature at least one clone.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 08 July, 2012, 11:31:14 AM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 08 July, 2012, 11:27:20 AM
I think that any future Dredd movies should stay away from clones, they have been done to death.
Have they? Really?
If a sequel is an origins take then the clone angle is unavoidable as it is the very essence of Dredd.




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 08 July, 2012, 11:41:46 AM
Quote
Have they? Really?


Film wise, yes.

The plot of the first film revolved around clones and cloning.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 08 July, 2012, 11:54:40 AM
I can only think of a handfull  of mainstream films covering Cloneing and that is over decades.
AOTC, Judge Dredd  95, The 6th day that come straight to mind
Not really awash with titles but I am sure you will scoure the internet and swamp me with titles.
Cloning wouldn't be the main plot of any Dredd film origin just a passing 'Dredd was cloned from the greatest Judge etc.




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 08 July, 2012, 11:56:57 AM
Quotebut I am sure you will scoure the internet and swamp me with titles.

I would if I could give a shit.




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 08 July, 2012, 12:01:46 PM
^ Like ^




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 08 July, 2012, 12:06:22 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 08 July, 2012, 11:31:14 AM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 08 July, 2012, 11:27:20 AM
I think that any future Dredd movies should stay away from clones, they have been done to death.
Have they? Really?
If a sequel is an origins take then the clone angle is unavoidable as it is the very essence of Dredd.


Alex Garland literally did clones to death in Never Let Me Go
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 08 July, 2012, 12:17:33 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 08 July, 2012, 11:54:40 AM
I can only think of a handfull  of mainstream films covering Cloneing and that is over decades.
AOTC, Judge Dredd  95, The 6th day that come straight to mind
Not really awash with titles but I am sure you will scoure the internet and swamp me with titles.
Cloning wouldn't be the main plot of any Dredd film origin just a passing 'Dredd was cloned from the greatest Judge etc.

Moon & The Island, but that's all I can think of. Certainly can't think of anything before Dredd in 2000ad though (meaning 70s and before). Certainly hasn't been "done to death" like zombies and vampires, but then they're practically genres in themselves these days.



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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 08 July, 2012, 12:28:58 PM
Quote from: Mudcrab on 08 July, 2012, 12:17:33 PM
Moon & The Island, but that's all I can think of. Certainly can't think of anything before Dredd in 2000ad though (meaning 70s and before). Certainly hasn't been "done to death" like zombies and vampires, but then they're practically genres in themselves these days.

The Boys From Brazil by Ira Levin (1976), and the film came out in 1978. Levin wasn't a science fiction author per se, so I'm sure the theory and idea were common currency in certain circles at the time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 08 July, 2012, 12:39:05 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 08 July, 2012, 12:06:22 PM


Alex Garland literally did clones to death in Never Let Me Go

Heh  :)

And Alien did clones too. I don't mind it, but it needs to be done so any whiff of Stallone isn't there and with Dredd's team, I'm kinda confident they'll tackle it just fine.... hopefully.

Back in London and kicking myself for being too shy to do conventions and meets. I have been known to fall to the floor and crawl away from eyes that were looking my direction. And Karl sounds so nice, all chatty and very down to earth, and yet stupid me's already got palpitations just at the thought of facing the guy. Actually, I'd get hives just meeting the Tweet Droid and he's one of us - but an awesome one of us (tangent: I love you, Tweet Droid!)

CF, I envy you so much!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 08 July, 2012, 12:51:55 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2012, 12:17:41 AM
And here's me not watching the clip  :'( :'( :'(

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/LFCC%202012/_MG_9275.jpg)

If you zoom right in on Burdis' face you can see a solitary little tear rolling down his cheek...

Hats off to the big fella though, he's really done us all proud here and over the last few weeks promoting the shit out of the film and the comic. Deserving of next years KTT?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 08 July, 2012, 12:52:14 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 08 July, 2012, 12:28:58 PM
Quote from: Mudcrab on 08 July, 2012, 12:17:33 PM
Moon & The Island, but that's all I can think of. Certainly can't think of anything before Dredd in 2000ad though (meaning 70s and before). Certainly hasn't been "done to death" like zombies and vampires, but then they're practically genres in themselves these days.

The Boys From Brazil by Ira Levin (1976), and the film came out in 1978. Levin wasn't a science fiction author per se, so I'm sure the theory and idea were common currency in certain circles at the time.

Of course, can't believe I forgot that. A possible influence on Dredd to begin with? Cloning fascist dictators and all that  :-*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 July, 2012, 01:01:59 PM
Future plots/stories don't have to be centred on clones but no reason they can't contain them just like they can contain future-drugs and future-disease and war.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 08 July, 2012, 01:10:02 PM
If we're sticking with 18 Certificates, can we have a sequel that focuses on the sexmek industry please?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 July, 2012, 01:14:03 PM
Yeah. A Crime gang kidnaps Judge Anderson to try and clone her Booty to sell to perverts for millions of creds.
Now that's a Movie !

I think it's an Oscar winning idea so send me the Cheque DNA/Rebellion/Lionsgate/whoever.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 July, 2012, 01:19:47 PM
A question about the new clip description for people who read leaked script.

[spoiler]I am assuming they have replace Dredd shooting through a citizen to hit the fleeing perp with this hotshot scene (the former being one of my favourite bits of the script, so a bit disappointed about that), but I slightly recall there being a choice of death or the cubes for somebody early on. I can't remember too well though, anyone know?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 08 July, 2012, 01:34:34 PM
Apologies, as this has probably been posted already.  Just in case though:

http://www.thisisfakediy.co.uk/articles/film/dredd-the-lfcc-panel-alex-garland-reveals-sequel-ideas-for-the-18-certifica/

Not much that hasn't been discussed already, but it's still an enjoyable read.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 08 July, 2012, 02:11:10 PM
Nice read...He says it must gross 50 million in the states,looking at the top 200 R rated films,number 200 grossed 70 mil.
Unless Dredd is an absolute stinker I think it has a good chance of getting a sequel.Freddy Vs Jason grossed 80
+ and that should attract the casual gore hounds to Dredd.

http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic/mpaa.htm?page=R&sort=gross&order=DESC&p=.htm
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 08 July, 2012, 02:16:07 PM
On the clone topic: I think there's excellent possibilities inherent in the idea, but maybe that's just because I like to see the same actor play different people. Also it might be way of including Karl's naked visage (for the laydeez and the dandy dapper gents). Clones were given lip-service in the 95 version, but they were really just clones  in name and blue-rubber zombie thingies in fact.

Plus: one less actor on the pay-roll.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ED GRIMREAPER on 08 July, 2012, 02:30:30 PM
Well if the sequel is going to be set in the Cursed Earth, please please please have the Land Raider/Kill Dozer in it. That would be sweet!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 08 July, 2012, 02:33:25 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 08 July, 2012, 01:34:34 PM
Apologies, as this has probably been posted already.  Just in case though:
http://www.thisisfakediy.co.uk/articles/film/dredd-the-lfcc-panel-alex-garland-reveals-sequel-ideas-for-the-18-certifica/
Not much that hasn't been discussed already, but it's still an enjoyable read.


"On preparation for the film.
Alex: The first thing I did was contact John Wagner. I started reading when I was about 10 or 11, with the Judge Child. I wanted to know he was okay about us doing it, so I contacted him and told him the budget and the aesthetic. He ended up drawing us a whole comic of the script which we distributed amongst ourselves. He did a lot of our concept art, and informed a great deal of the film.
"


Either the journo responsible for that article confused a reference to Jock with one to Dredd's creator, or Wagner's been hiding his artistic talent under a bushel all these years.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 08 July, 2012, 03:29:23 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 July, 2012, 01:19:47 PM
A question about the new clip description for people who read leaked script.

[spoiler]I am assuming they have replace Dredd shooting through a citizen to hit the fleeing perp with this hotshot scene (the former being one of my favourite bits of the script, so a bit disappointed about that), but I slightly recall there being a choice of death or the cubes for somebody early on. I can't remember too well though, anyone know?[/spoiler]

I also [spoiler]liked that scene with Dredd shooting through the woman. I hope it's still in the movie. Who knows, maybe two guys escape from the van instead of one. And I don't remember Dredd giving someone a life in the cubes or death option in the script.[/spoiler]

As for the 50 million dollar number, this bleedingcool article (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/07/08/the-judge-dredd-movie-trilogy-as-loosely-planned-by-writer-alex-garland/) says

QuoteGarland noted that they'll have a hard time hitting the $50 million with an R-rating

I have to agree. Don't get me wrong, I liked the script, I've always liked the character and I really hope the movie does well, but DREDD seems like a hard sell. It has nothing to do with 'good' or 'bad'. It has everything to do with Hard R "guy movies" not really lighting up the box office anymore. These days, they usually find their audiences on video. The ones that do good business at the box office seem to be nostalgia trips like THE EXPENDABLES and RAMBO. Stuff like Freddy vs. Jason is in a different category because it's a horror movie with two characters that had  built-in fanbases from a ton of previous movies. Dredd doesn't have much of a fanbase in the US. Bring up Dredd and you'll probably get either a "huh?" or "LOL STALLONE" reaction.

It all depends on the marketing, though! Hopefully Lionsgate does a good job in the coming months. Concentrate on the unique visuals and show some of Anderson's backstory so you're not just appealing to a certain male demographic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 08 July, 2012, 04:20:40 PM
Quote from: wadew1 on 08 July, 2012, 03:29:23 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 July, 2012, 01:19:47 PM
A question about the new clip description for people who read leaked script.

[spoiler]I am assuming they have replace Dredd shooting through a citizen to hit the fleeing perp with this hotshot scene (the former being one of my favourite bits of the script, so a bit disappointed about that), but I slightly recall there being a choice of death or the cubes for somebody early on. I can't remember too well though, anyone know?[/spoiler]

I also [spoiler]liked that scene with Dredd shooting through the woman. I hope it's still in the movie. Who knows, maybe two guys escape from the van instead of one. And I don't remember Dredd giving someone a life in the cubes or death option in the script.[/spoiler]

I actually hope that scene has been removed or changed. That's too harsh, even for Dredd. [spoiler]Unless the scene involved creating a non-lethal injury to the woman, then yes, I'd buy it. Killing an innocent to kill a perp though? No. Incidentally I haven't read the script but I have seen a few mild spoilers.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 08 July, 2012, 04:27:28 PM
But [spoiler]Dredd doesn't kill the woman. Dredd shoots her through the shoulder and tells the freaked out woman that he hit no vital organs and she's going to be fine.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 July, 2012, 04:34:37 PM
[spoiler]Yeah it seemed like such a great scene, and in my opinion would introduce Dredd just fine.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 July, 2012, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: ED GRIMREAPER on 08 July, 2012, 02:30:30 PM
Well if the sequel is going to be set in the Cursed Earth, please please please have the Land Raider/Kill Dozer in it. That would be sweet!

I was thinking that myself last night, even though I'd become aware they weren't talking about the comic version. It's something to plonk in front of an artist at least.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 08 July, 2012, 04:41:20 PM
I liked that scene too but it [spoiler]may have been too reminiscent of Robocop shooting through the victim's dress. "Madam, you have suffered an emotional crisis. I will notify a rape crisis center."[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 08 July, 2012, 04:46:02 PM
Quote from: wadew1 on 08 July, 2012, 04:27:28 PM
But [spoiler]Dredd doesn't kill the woman. Dredd shoots her through the shoulder and tells the freaked out woman that he hit no vital organs and she's going to be fine.[/spoiler]

Fair enough. I didn't know that. I agree that would work.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 July, 2012, 05:19:21 PM
Quote from: Stan on 08 July, 2012, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: ED GRIMREAPER on 08 July, 2012, 02:30:30 PM
Well if the sequel is going to be set in the Cursed Earth, please please please have the Land Raider/Kill Dozer in it. That would be sweet!

I was thinking that myself last night, even though I'd become aware they weren't talking about the comic version. It's something to plonk in front of an artist at least.

That was a Matchbox promo wasn't it?...my auntie Mary bought me that toy on Rutherglen mainstreet...it was years before I saw it in Dredd and I was really surprised by the link...I know it's a digression but what was the story behind the toy / cursed earth...what came first?...and it would be cool to see.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 08 July, 2012, 05:24:06 PM
'Matchbox adventure 2000'
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2662/3772090586_82064353f0.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 July, 2012, 05:25:17 PM
That Matchbox thing does sound familiar now you mention it. Maybe there was an advert in one of the progs or something?

And I was a bit hesitant at first but I think I prefer the re-shoot of that scene. The other thing has been done to death.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 08 July, 2012, 05:28:37 PM

QuoteAlex: That clip was part of the reshoot - we shot it in December last year. We shot that in an abandoned shopping mall in Colindale


Am I right in thinking he means Yaohan Plaza / Oriental City? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental_City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental_City)

I used be down there almost everyday after school back in the 90's!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 July, 2012, 05:29:26 PM
Yes, I may be off ...but I think the toy was promoted by the comic. I don't think it was made for 2000AD...the figures were not judges...or were they? First I noticed it was the Bolland cover of The Cursed Earth. Then I discovered it in back issues...Burger Wars etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 08 July, 2012, 07:20:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MJhhdeNYp8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MJhhdeNYp8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyxWgp4mgME (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyxWgp4mgME)
Some panel footage, bad sound and picture.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 July, 2012, 08:26:56 PM
Just read a slightly more detailed description of the new footage here: http://cinemart-online.co.uk/2012/07/08/london-film-and-comic-con-dredd-clip-report/

I definitely preferred the old version if they have swapped it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 July, 2012, 08:50:05 PM
As others have mentioned that scene as in the script [spoiler]seemed similar to Robocop, and maybe it also made Dredd too brutal for an intro - I get why it was changed, it's a bit like the abandoned Bank Raid debut storyline compared to Judge Whitey...

I don't know what the guy from that report was hearing, but he sounded fine to me, and bear in mind that the sound system in those places is not great - it was even mentioned that it would be a lot bassier than that.

As this was a reshoot, I'm guessing the original was shot as scripted (or close to), so it may be a deleted scene

[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 July, 2012, 08:57:59 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 08 July, 2012, 08:50:05 PM
As others have mentioned that scene as in the script [spoiler]seemed similar to Robocop, and maybe it also made Dredd too brutal for an intro - I get why it was changed, it's a bit like the abandoned Bank Raid debut storyline compared to Judge Whitey...

I don't know what the guy from that report was hearing, but he sounded fine to me, and bear in mind that the sound system in those places is not great - it was even mentioned that it would be a lot bassier than that.

As this was a reshoot, I'm guessing the original was shot as scripted (or close to), so it may be a deleted scene

[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I would say this new one sounds more brutal, shooting him in the mouth and his head setting on fire from inside! Damn! [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 08 July, 2012, 09:14:57 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 July, 2012, 08:26:56 PM
Just read a slightly more detailed description of the new footage here: http://cinemart-online.co.uk/2012/07/08/london-film-and-comic-con-dredd-clip-report/

Blimey! This is gonna be one brutal film, if thats owt to go by.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 July, 2012, 09:25:03 PM
Too much like RoboCop, not a good thing. The last thing we want is people saying Dredd ripped-off RoboCop. I'm surprised the scene was ever written like that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 July, 2012, 09:56:05 PM
Yep, I can't remember if he uses ricochets in the script, but it's another thing that Robocop 'borrowed' - could have something more like the ricochet in a confined space, could imagine that in slomo would look/have looked great.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 08 July, 2012, 11:01:41 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 July, 2012, 09:25:03 PM
Too much like RoboCop, not a good thing. The last thing we want is people saying Dredd ripped-off RoboCop.

I dunno, Robocop had its gory bits: but this is sounds like a different category of goriness .
There is a parallel with one particular Robocop scene, but that scene ended very differently: this ending sets a far more balls-to-the-wall  uncompromising tone. I like a balls-to-the-wall uncompromising tone, me.

As for accusations of plagiarism... well  'Robocop' has a nerve, doesn't it?

...and anyway 'Raid'/'Robocop'/'The Sound of Music', I care not a jot,so long as folk are talking about it. Personally, the last thing that I want to champion is 'innovation for it's own sake': Wagner's Dredd wasn't created in a cultural vacuum; 2000ad always borrowed unashamedly from whatever was 'the go'. It references Robocop, fine, what's important to me is it does something different with it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 July, 2012, 11:14:10 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 08 July, 2012, 11:01:41 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 July, 2012, 09:25:03 PM
Too much like RoboCop, not a good thing. The last thing we want is people saying Dredd ripped-off RoboCop.

I dunno, Robocop had its gory bits: but this is sounds like a different category of goriness .
There is a parallel with one particular Robocop scene, but that scene ended very differently: this ending sets a far more balls-to-the-wall  uncompromising tone. I like a balls-to-the-wall uncompromising tone, me.

As for accusations of plagiarism... well  'Robocop' has a nerve, doesn't it?




The goriness ain't the issue, it's the [spoiler]bullet through woman to kill a perp[/spoiler] content that is. I would expect it from someone like Mark Millar. No reason for Dredd to dramatically 're-commit' a crime that the original plagiarist-offender 'commited'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Leigh S on 08 July, 2012, 11:15:56 PM
If a Dredd film avoids "ripping off" Robocop, then won't it not be much of a Dredd film?

I'm all for avoiding direct lifts, but if you Robocop (a 25 year od filom now?) is kicking you out of your own yard, whose yard are you in and whats the point of even making the film?

I dont mind them trying to do something different, but if that different is watered down or blander or just misses the point of the character... The supposed original of shooting through a hostage is a direct Wagner Dredd lift - the burning someones face up just sounds like something from a Mark Millar Dredd
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 July, 2012, 11:22:48 PM
Quote from: Leigh S on 08 July, 2012, 11:15:56 PM
If a Dredd film avoids "ripping off" Robocop, then won't it not be much of a Dredd film?


That's not the issue being discussed. Avoiding same dramatic incident is not changing Dredd. Being the same tone is not ripping-off, but same scene content is or will be seen as such since it's one of the most infamous scenes in RoboCop wherever it came from.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 July, 2012, 11:23:57 PM
I think Robocop is just the obvious example, but I'd like Dredd's intro to be a little more original than using the whole shooting of hostage to get the bad guy cliche. The first thing that came to mind is Robocop. But then there'd Speed. And Bruce Willis even shot himself in Die Hard 4.

Frying someone's face like an egg is more memorable I think. B)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 July, 2012, 11:26:07 PM
You may want some spoiler tags there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 July, 2012, 11:27:42 PM
That did occur to immediately after I hit post. Though anyone reading an email notification is screwed anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Leigh S on 08 July, 2012, 11:34:25 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 July, 2012, 11:22:48 PM
Quote from: Leigh S on 08 July, 2012, 11:15:56 PM
If a Dredd film avoids "ripping off" Robocop, then won't it not be much of a Dredd film?


That's not the issue being discussed. Avoiding same dramatic incident is not changing Dredd. Being the same tone is not ripping-off, but same scene content is or will be seen as such since it's one of the most infamous scenes in RoboCop wherever it came from.

Sure, avoid something thats been stolen, but replace it with something thats tonally Dredd... if this is a replacement, it seems (from the description, so maybe it comes over better but...) to be out of character replacement - or at the very least less inventive than the original even given the original has been round the block a few times since Dredd did it in the comics.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Leigh S on 08 July, 2012, 11:40:40 PM
it could well be im fussing over nothing, but I dislike the idea that you may end up skewing your character from its strengths in order to let others claim those strengths for their own.  I'd rather they were in danger of looking like a rip off with somehting that was true to the character than were "original" but in doing so present something that is weaker or misrepresenting the character.  DC Dredd had a good few original feeling Dredd moments by veering off the chart of where you'd expect Dredd moments to be, as a crude example.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 09 July, 2012, 12:05:45 AM
I have to concede Joe's point: that one element of the scene  i.e.[spoiler]citizen-harmed-in-order-to-harm-perp-even-more[/spoiler] is not classic, Wagner-penned, Dredd-of-the-comics, behaviour.
But this is a different set-up: this is a live-action reincarnation launched into a 21st century cultural zeitgeist, ( that is long-sated by many elements of the original Dredd, elements that have already crept into public conciousness via other means, with probably Robocop being the greatest offender).

Like the uniform, the Dredd character has to be right for this medium and for now: the Dredd required for this purpose is not Wagner's Dredd, or Grant's Dredd, or Mark Millar's or even David Bishop's but Alex Garland's Dredd.

So sure, it's a deviation, it didn't bother Wagner himself so why should it bother you?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 July, 2012, 12:14:09 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 09 July, 2012, 12:05:45 AM
I have to concede Joe's point: that one element of the scene  i.e.[spoiler]citizen-harmed-in-order-to-harm-perp-even-more[/spoiler] is not classic, Wagner-penned, Dredd-of-the-comics, behaviour.




That wasn't my point. The behaviour and tone of that RoboCop scene is reflective of classic Dredd - probably the most Dreddian scene in the whole film- but I don't see why the incident should be dramatically repeated in a new Dredd film. He can do something else equally Dreddian instead which he may well have in the reshoot scene.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 09 July, 2012, 12:17:29 AM
Indeed. Well then, here's hoping, and even if not- perhaps the rest of the film will make up for it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 09 July, 2012, 12:20:11 AM
Chill guys, I'm sure it'll be fine! 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 09 July, 2012, 12:29:34 AM
[spoiler]They started it.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 09 July, 2012, 12:38:25 AM
Drokkin' too right it's gonna be fine. When you listen to these guys talk about the film and not just on the panels. Me, Steve Green, Albion and dweezil2 had a chat with Alex Garland after the panel and you can feel the love and knowledge of the character with what he (and they) said!

I can't wait to read the feedback from those lucky buggers over at SDCC.

But they ain't got one of these though  ;)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/LFCC%202012/img019.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 09 July, 2012, 12:48:36 AM
Brilliant, just brilliant! Nice one mate, you must be totally chuffed. A great pay-off after being on your feet for so long, eh?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 09 July, 2012, 12:53:30 AM
It was a pleasure doing my tiny bit, wait till you see what I post tomorrow. I can't take pics in this light, so need some daylight to show it well. It's the massive poster with a lot more written on it  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 09 July, 2012, 12:56:54 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 08 July, 2012, 02:11:10 PM
Nice read...He says it must gross 50 million in the states,looking at the top 200 R rated films,number 200 grossed 70 mil.
Unless Dredd is an absolute stinker I think it has a good chance of getting a sequel.Freddy Vs Jason grossed 80
+ and that should attract the casual gore hounds to Dredd.

http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic/mpaa.htm?page=R&sort=gross&order=DESC&p=.htm

When you put it that way..makes me feel a lot better as far as the numbers are concerned
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 09 July, 2012, 01:29:36 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 09 July, 2012, 12:38:25 AM
Drokkin' too right it's gonna be fine.

So CF, did you see the clip this time?
What did you make of it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 09 July, 2012, 01:49:47 AM
I did indeed. I had Karl Urban stood 2ft in front of me and Alex Garland to the left when I watched this sequence.

Without giving anything away, Karl had some excellent weapon drills during the scene, as the Lawgiver was held correctly when he advanced towards the target.
When he manouvered into the firing position, I was impressed with the camera angles, as it showed him with a clear shot on the target, that he had aimed for. This meant that the target would have had to swing its arm outwards to try and get a shot towards Dredd and during this time it would be too late, obviously!

The ending was very Dredd  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 09 July, 2012, 02:02:55 AM
I think there's a bit of that scene in the trailer?

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9094/dreddq.jpg)

Also, I don't know someone already mentioned this, but when you google DREDD it lists the runtime as 2 hours.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 09 July, 2012, 02:09:47 AM
Actually I don't see the runtime listed anymore? I could have sworn the runtime was listed under the movie title when I did a google search for DREDD today.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 July, 2012, 02:22:02 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 09 July, 2012, 12:38:25 AM
Drokkin' too right it's gonna be fine. When you listen to these guys talk about the film and not just on the panels. Me, Steve Green, Albion and dweezil2 had a chat with Alex Garland after the panel and you can feel the love and knowledge of the character with what he (and they) said!

I can't wait to read the feedback from those lucky buggers over at SDCC.

But they ain't got one of these though  ;)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/LFCC%202012/img019.jpg)

Nice!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 09 July, 2012, 02:33:19 AM
After checking out all the various shots of you in uniform I am now absolutely desperate to get mine!  Dan has said mine might be ready by end of July.  I pray it turns up before my hols!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 09 July, 2012, 02:55:20 AM
PM sent  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 09 July, 2012, 06:13:09 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 09 July, 2012, 12:17:29 AM
Indeed. Well then, here's hoping, and even if not- perhaps the rest of the film will make up for it.

Pete's sake, danmarr dude,
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 09 July, 2012, 06:27:35 AM
HEY!  This thing posted my comments before I'd finished writing them, what gives?  Let's try that again, shall we...

Quote from: darnmarr on 09 July, 2012, 12:17:29 AM
Indeed. Well then, here's hoping, and even if not- perhaps the rest of the film will make up for it.

Pete's sake, danmarr dude, you haven't even seen the finished film yet, never mind said clip, and it almost sounds like you're writing it off..."perhaps the rest of the film will make up for it" (?), the WHOLE FILM is going to rock, ROCK I tells ya, and I have no doubt it will hit the $50m mark in the U.S., if audience reaction to the preview screenings are anything to go by, we might be ultimately surprised (pleasantly so) at just how well it does at the box-office worldwide, strong word-of-mouth can give even the most niche genre project real momentum.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 09 July, 2012, 11:31:18 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 09 July, 2012, 12:38:25 AM
Drokkin' too right it's gonna be fine. When you listen to these guys talk about the film and not just on the panels. Me, Steve Green, Albion and dweezil2 had a chat with Alex Garland after the panel and you can feel the love and knowledge of the character with what he (and they) said!

I can't wait to read the feedback from those lucky buggers over at SDCC.

But they ain't got one of these though  ;)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/LFCC%202012/img019.jpg)


I can only echo Judge Burdis' sentiments!

It was a absolute delight to meet Steve Green, Albion and of course the mighty Commando Forces at the event!

The wife and I had a fantastic time!

Equally great was the signing session with Karl Urban, who was an absoulute gent and assured me that the film was "sick" (slang for awesome for those unfamiliar with the term) and after I expressed that the trailer was f-ing great and that he must please commit to a sequel, he told me to spread the word and get all my mates to see it-which I assured him I would!

The panel later in the day was almost ubearably exciting, with the promise of a new clip from the film and it absolutely did not dissapoint.
Here was Dredd distilled on film like never before and it was to confirm, if that hadn't already been done by the trailer, that Urban has completely and utterly succeeded  in his representation of the character.
Earlier in the Q+A he had likened Dredd as a panther stalking his prey and this was evident as Dredd seemed to almost glide into shot, ready to dispatch a particularly nasty perp.
A great moment and even on the rather crappy monitor provided at the venue, was enough to emphasise  that Dredd is beautifully shot and will look stunning! Hotshot indeed.

Ther audience Q+A was a real mixed bag, with one attendee seeming to bemoan the new uniform design. Alex Garland diplomatically answered be explaining that it was necessary to enable Dredd to perform the kind of movement he would need to in his daily work of judging, and the wider shoulder pads in the comic and the '95 film would make movement like rolling impossible as huge chunks of the eagle would be snapped off or snagged on curtains!
He also jokingly said that at least he wasn't asked about the vans!

One other attendee also seemed to find it hard to grasp that Dredd is not a superhero and went on rather awkwardly to ask why Dredd doesn't have an alter ego like Spiderman/Peter Parker and Batman/Bruce Wayne. While the person who asked the question obviously misses the point of Dredd entirely, Alex Garland was quick to reiterate that Dredd wasn't a superhero but just a damn good cop and that any emotional turmoil Dredd felt was intenalised and Karl Urban also likened Dredd to the firefighters on 9/11. People who would enter a building while other were doing their best to leave.

After the panel Alex Garland stood and chatted with us board members and it was great to hear that potential sequels are in the bag and he was very supportive of the Minty project that Steve G is envolved in!
It was also fascinating to hear the challenges of digital 3D film making and how unlike film, a lot of panning shots and zooms are created post production these days.

Alex and the rest of the panel are obviously very passionate about the project and getting Dredd right this time and nothing I heard or saw at the panel brings into doubt that they have succeeded.

Special mention to John (Commando Forces) who tirelessly wore his uniform all day on the Sunday I attended, promoted the character and the film with photo opportunities and posing with visitors!

Your thanks are well deserved John!  ;)

And then the mighty Faith No More in the evening, with Albion in attendance!

What a day!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 09 July, 2012, 12:08:47 PM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 09 July, 2012, 06:27:35 AM

Quote from: darnmarr on 09 July, 2012, 12:17:29 AM
Indeed. Well then, here's hoping, and even if not- perhaps the rest of the film will make up for it.
Pete's sake, danmarr dude, you haven't even seen the finished film yet, never mind said clip, and it almost sounds like you're writing it off..."perhaps the rest of the film will make up for it" (?), the WHOLE FILM is going to rock, ROCK I tells ya...
Yup, I agree with you and I'm daily increasing in optimism: unfortunately tone and context aren't always as clear as one would like on a discussion thread though.
So for clarification, I reckon Joe's misgivings (about how this one scene plays out) are perfectly valid, and because of that, I wouldn't mind if, in the end, the scene was shot or re-edited before release... but even if it aint, I still anticipate a film that is so excellent as a  whole that minor niggles about individual scenes will pale into utter insigificance.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 July, 2012, 12:36:08 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 09 July, 2012, 12:08:47 PM
So for clarification, I reckon Joe's misgivings (about how this one scene plays out) are perfectly valid, and because of that, I wouldn't mind if, in the end, the scene was shot or re-edited before release...


I think this point needs clarifying: the scene has all ready been re-shot since last December and it was this re-shot scene that was shown at the con. I was commenting on how the scene played in the script that was similar to RoboCop not what they've reshot, so I've no misgivings. The film has been complete these last few months.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 09 July, 2012, 12:50:27 PM
From SFX.co.uk:

Quote
Dredd scriptwriter Alex Garland has revealed that the film needs to earn at least £50 million at the box office in the US to make a sequel possible (which seems perfectly achievable if you ask us).

...if the reports we've heard from people who've already seen the film are true, the film should blast through the $50 million barrier. There's a really good buzz about this one...

http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/07/09/what-dredd-needs-to-earn-to-make-sequels-possible-and-what-we-might-see-in-them/ (http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/07/09/what-dredd-needs-to-earn-to-make-sequels-possible-and-what-we-might-see-in-them/)

I'm on the fence. $50m doesn't sound like that much, relatively speaking, but what do we expect DREDD's opening US weekend to be? I'm anticipating less than half that. I guess it all comes down to word of mouth and critical reception. DREDD ain't gonna be a big opening weekend smash - but it could stick around in the charts to become a bit of a slow burn success - if word of mouth is positive...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 09 July, 2012, 12:59:06 PM
Had a chat to my mate at work whose a big, big cult movie fan and very up on his film knowledge. When I asked him if he was aware of the up and coming Dredd movie I got a blank puzzled look in return. He knew zero unfortunately. So I pointed him in the direction of the relevant site(s) / trailer and I'm sure when he cottons on it's there it will leave the desired positive first impression.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 09 July, 2012, 01:11:16 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 09 July, 2012, 12:36:08 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 09 July, 2012, 12:08:47 PM
... I wouldn't mind if, in the end, the scene was shot or re-edited before release...
I think this point needs clarifying: the scene has all ready been re-shot since last December and it was this re-shot scene that was shown at the con. ... I've no misgivings. The film has been complete these last few months.

Oh. I do feel like an idiot then...sorry everybod.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 09 July, 2012, 01:14:12 PM
Out of my friends and acquaintances, one is a massive Dredd fan - almost as much as me, and he is rabidly looking forward to the movie.

Two others are into Dredd more casually (one an old-school 2000ad fan who has read a few Dredd comics, and the other a recent convert who has read a few Case Files) and though both will be going to see the movie, both have expressed quite big reservations and scepticicism about it (the usual things about the budget, trailer, bike, the involvement of La Roux etc etc - I've long been fighting a losing PR battle with them "It'll be good, trust me").

With any luck I'll be dragging along at least 5 or 6 other people opening weekend, and I know a few more who will probably be going to see it off their own back. However it turns out, I'll be going to see it at least twice, and pre-ordering the Blu Ray.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 09 July, 2012, 01:50:40 PM
Oh, BTW there are a few more boarders namechecked in the film, according to Alex...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 09 July, 2012, 01:56:56 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 09 July, 2012, 01:50:40 PM
Oh, BTW there are a few more boarders namechecked in the film, according to Alex...

That's cool to hear!

Thought he was a really nice bloke and the film obviously means a lot to him personally. Great that they're namechecking so many of the boarders! Who will get lucky!?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 July, 2012, 02:04:42 PM
Heh, no probs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 July, 2012, 02:05:27 PM
^that's for danmarr
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 09 July, 2012, 02:08:40 PM
Not sure If I should say or leave it as a surprise - Bit worried I might misremember...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 09 July, 2012, 02:09:58 PM
yayyyy i can post in regards 2 the new DREDD movie  :lol: sep couldnt come quick enough the movie looks fantastic from seeing the trailer and with news that it could end up a trilogy if it makes at least 50 mil in the states im even more happy sooo for any americans out there 1st off we all love ya in europe so 4 get spiderman batman or any of those and go an watch DREDD if ya dont im gunna have 2 hop on a plane and c it in states aswell as here lol DREDD IS BACK
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 09 July, 2012, 02:13:23 PM
I remember two names who get a name check but there might have been a third, now how exciting is that for the forum!
Not only will you go and watch the film multiple times to see or hear your name but the fun that cinema will have when these individuals jump out of their seats and scream will be fantastic  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 09 July, 2012, 02:14:17 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 09 July, 2012, 02:08:40 PM
Not sure If I should say or leave it as a surprise - Bit worried I might misremember...

Nah! Leave it as a suprise Steve! It won't diminish mine or anyone elses excitement regarding the film either way. It looks phenomenal!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 09 July, 2012, 02:15:19 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 09 July, 2012, 02:13:23 PM
I remember two names who get a name check but there might have been a third, now how exciting is that for the forum!
Not only will you go and watch the film multiple times to see or hear your name but the fun that cinema will have when these individuals jump out of their seats and scream will be fantastic  :D

:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 09 July, 2012, 02:34:07 PM
Quote from: radiator on 09 July, 2012, 12:50:27 PM
From SFX.co.uk:

Quote
Dredd scriptwriter Alex Garland has revealed that the film needs to earn at least £50 million at the box office in the US to make a sequel possible (which seems perfectly achievable if you ask us).

...if the reports we've heard from people who've already seen the film are true, the film should blast through the $50 million barrier. There's a really good buzz about this one...

http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/07/09/what-dredd-needs-to-earn-to-make-sequels-possible-and-what-we-might-see-in-them/ (http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/07/09/what-dredd-needs-to-earn-to-make-sequels-possible-and-what-we-might-see-in-them/)

I'm on the fence. $50m doesn't sound like that much, relatively speaking, but what do we expect DREDD's opening US weekend to be? I'm anticipating less than half that. I guess it all comes down to word of mouth and critical reception. DREDD ain't gonna be a big opening weekend smash - but it could stick around in the charts to become a bit of a slow burn success - if word of mouth is positive...

This isn't written in stone but the Hollywood bean-counters tend to project the average movie's box-office as follows: Opening weekend's box office will drop 50% the following weekend and again by 50% the following weekend after that and that follows through until the theater run is completed. That's how your average movie tends to perform and why the studios are so fixated on the opening weekend. That, obviously, doesn't follow for movies like Titanic or The Avengers, etc which hit huge opening weekends and then continue going gangbusters.

I'm no expert but I would think if Dredd does $25-$30 mil opening weekend it may well crack the $60 mil by the end of its run. Hard to say. That's big numbers we're talking for a hard R movie. I'm cautiously optimistic...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 09 July, 2012, 03:36:18 PM
Coming from a position of ignorance RE films/budgets/sequels, I just thought I'd ask why the cinema money is so much more important than the DVD/blu-ray cash? When I saw Highlander in the cinema, myself and my cousin were the only ones there but  yet there was a sequel; Blade Runner had terrible box-office too...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 09 July, 2012, 03:38:32 PM
I guess its changed in the intervening 20 years or so since those, and its not like Blade Runner got a sequel
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 09 July, 2012, 03:42:35 PM
Might do yet: anyway my question being, 'is there any critical amount of subsequent success on disc that could greenlight a sequel for a film that didn't do that well at the box-office?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 09 July, 2012, 03:43:56 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 09 July, 2012, 03:36:18 PMComing from a position of ignorance RE films/budgets/sequels, I just thought I'd ask why the cinema money is so much more important than the DVD/blu-ray cash?
DVD/Blu-Ray (etc.) is long tail, to some extent, and often through fans buying again. I guess it's more of a risk to do a sequel (which in most cases are pricier and/or less successful) on the basis of money you might make back later, rather than a more likely return directly from the cinema. With something like Dredd, I just hope it doesn't bomb. ~$80m worldwide would be fantastic, but even that would probably only be a break-even figure.

I guess we'll see come September.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 09 July, 2012, 03:48:24 PM
What is the rating going to be in America ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 09 July, 2012, 03:49:55 PM
I got it nevermind :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 July, 2012, 03:56:40 PM
Predators (2010) was an R and had the same budget. That grossed 120 million, and that film was only OK. Granted Predator is more well known, and was 15 instead of 18, but if Dredd is a good film, I think it will easily make enough for a sequel. I sure hope so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 09 July, 2012, 04:01:27 PM
Predators seems like a fair comparison. It made almost $25m in it's opening US weekend, rounding out at just over $50m. It made an additional $75m worldwide bringing the total to around $125m, and that was a film that had moderate prerelease buzz, but very poor reviews and word of mouth.

If DREDD can match or trump that in financial terms, then we're laughing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 09 July, 2012, 04:10:54 PM
This is the current R Rated Movie Listing for Box Office Sales in the US in 2012.
The Rank number is overall positioning at the box office with all movies released this year.



   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
RankMovieRel.DateDistrib.Genre MPAA 2012 GrossTickets
3Safe House 2/10/2012 UniversalThriller/Suspense R $123,881,78015,621,914
6 21 Jump Street 3/16/2012 Sony Pictures Comedy R $92,882,69011,712,823
9 Act of Valor 2/24/2012 RelativityAction R $67,745,4008,542,926
10 Contraband 1/13/2012 UniversalAction R $66,528,0008,389,407
13 Underworld: Awakening 1/20/2012 Sony PicturesAction R $62,321,0397,858,895
15 Project X 3/2/2012 Warner Bros.Comedy R $53,354,0126,728,123
16 ]The Devil Inside 1/6/2012 Paramount PicturesHorror R $53,261,9446,716,512
18The Grey 1/27/2012 Open RoadThriller/Suspense R $51,475,1726,491,194
23 The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo 12/21/2011 Sony PicturesThriller/Suspense R $42,564,8405,367,571
24 The Descendants 11/16/2011 Fox SearchlightDrama R $42,120,9135,311,591
38 Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy 12/9/2011 Focus FeaturesThriller/Suspense R $19,869,2072,505,575
39 Haywire 1/20/2012 RelativityThriller/Suspense R $18,942,3962,388,701



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 09 July, 2012, 04:18:23 PM
Slightly misleading - some of those films, such as Girl With the Dragon Tattoo and Tinker Tailor... were released in 2011 so the totals aren't representative.

But looking up and down the list - yeah, these are the sort of films - The Grey, Underworld, Contraband - I see as DREDD's peers rather The Avengers/Batman/Spider-man/Prometheus.

Be interesting to see how DREDD fares internationally - my guess is that's where it'll make most of it's money.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 09 July, 2012, 04:21:43 PM
The magical "$50 million" would that include DVD - BlueRay sales do you think ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 09 July, 2012, 04:27:51 PM
Have to say, I'm actually surprised some of those movies finished with that kind of box office. I knew The Grey (awesome movie) was a moderate success made for next-to-nothing but 21 Jump Street aside, the rest of the top 5 are total shockers. They were here and gone ar nos na gaoithe here in La-La land and yet did better than I ever would've thought. Safe House with $123 mil...?! Jesus wept.

Still, goes to show you how tough it's going to be for Dredd. Optimistic though because I think if they can plug into the Rambo/Expendables demographic they'll be laughing. Ironically enough, the Stallone factor may be enough to get some people in if they're curious to see a "reboot" of one of his movies.

Hmm. If only we could get Stallone to plug this version in an interview. Haha! It's the least he owes us.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 09 July, 2012, 04:29:08 PM
QuoteThe magical "$50 million" would that include DVD - BlueRay sales do you think ?

I very much doubt it - I'm pretty sure that is purely the US box office take.

Garland seems to be implying that the US take is key for distributor demand for a sequel, but I don't know whether things would change if, say, it failed to hit the $50m but went on to sell phenomenally well on DVD/BD, or if it made say only $30m US, but raked in $90m internationally....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 09 July, 2012, 04:30:57 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 09 July, 2012, 04:21:43 PM
The magical "$50 million" would that include DVD - BlueRay sales do you think ?

Wouldn't think so. They need to see hard numbers as soon as possible for the studios to start frothing at the gash.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 09 July, 2012, 04:44:49 PM
QuoteHmm. If only we could get Stallone to plug this version in an interview. Haha! It's the least he owes us.

Don't think Stallone has much choice in the matter, since Lionsgate are almost certain to run trailers for DREDD on Expendables II.


Oh sweet irony  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 09 July, 2012, 04:51:09 PM
apologies if its been seen before but has this motion poster appeared on the boards ?
pretty cool

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/24337/-dredd-motion-poster-sdcc-screening
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 09 July, 2012, 04:55:10 PM
Yep - it appeared when they were running the ticket competition.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 July, 2012, 05:06:45 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 09 July, 2012, 04:30:57 PM

Wouldn't think so. They need to see hard numbers as soon as possible for the studios to start frothing at the gash.

haha!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 09 July, 2012, 05:19:23 PM
With the talk of Dark Judges, has this guy ever been mentioned?

Javier Boter, seems to specialise in creatures - is in [REC], although I haven't seen it.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GDdqaV6fTwA/Tk7WfONnJdI/AAAAAAAAAvg/BUQz38rIaxA/s780/cabecera%2Bblogg.jpg)

6' 4"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 09 July, 2012, 05:20:06 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 09 July, 2012, 04:30:57 PM
...to start frothing at the gash.

I am so borrowing that one..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 09 July, 2012, 05:20:59 PM
With all the fuss I thought that Girl with the Dragon Tatt and the Grey would have scored bigger than that,and Haywaire??? Am I the only one who loved that movie?

I think the best comparison I've seen so far is Kick Ass,both are going to more or less have the same audience.
It got mixed reviews in the states(panned) and great reviews here(5 stars Empire) and it made  96mill worldwide split 50% between the US and the rest.

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=kickass.htm.

Or it could do a Haywire  :(

If its great we've got 2 weeks to drum it into the Yanks  ;)

...less than two months to go.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 09 July, 2012, 05:22:17 PM
If Underword can make $62 Million then DREDD should breeze it surely?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 09 July, 2012, 05:23:46 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 09 July, 2012, 05:19:23 PM
With the talk of Dark Judges, has this guy ever been mentioned?

Javier Boter, seems to specialise in creatures - is in [REC], although I haven't seen it.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GDdqaV6fTwA/Tk7WfONnJdI/AAAAAAAAAvg/BUQz38rIaxA/s780/cabecera%2Bblogg.jpg)

6' 4"
Holy shit!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 09 July, 2012, 05:28:38 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 09 July, 2012, 05:22:17 PM
If Underword can make $62 Million then DREDD should breeze it surely?!
Love(Kate) it but never went to see it at the flicks,thinking about it Kate would make a great Hershey if she can do the accent.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 09 July, 2012, 05:59:05 PM
QuoteIf Underword can make $62 Million then DREDD should breeze it surely?!

An Underworld sequel, no less.

You'd think so, wouldn't you - and in a just world that'd be the case. But there's a lot of morons out there - see also the baffling, continued success of the Pirates of the Caribbean and Transformers franchises - films that no one seems to actually, actively like, yet people go to see in their droves.

Sadly, I think that most cinemagoers don't actually go to see specific films, they just turn up at the cinema and pick a film based on whatever has the shiniest, most expensive-looking poster and/or has the most celebrities they recognise in it.

QuoteWith all the fuss I thought that Girl with the Dragon Tatt and the Grey would have scored bigger than that

Read my previous post - ...Dragon Tattoo made over $100m in the US (still a 'disappointing' take for that particular film), but it took a larg chunk of that in the last couple of weeks of 2011.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 09 July, 2012, 06:02:56 PM
Gotcha  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buddy on 09 July, 2012, 07:05:11 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 08:03:49 PM
Garlan'ds proposed sequels are reportedly:


Film II: Cursed Eath/Origins story.


Film III: Dark Judges.

I read Garland had considered The Cursed Earth as a follow up but rejected it for an origins story feeling that movie goers not familiar with Dredd needed to know more about Dredd and the city before taking the character out of the city, but Dark Judges are penciled in for a third film...... now, if I could only find where I read that!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 July, 2012, 07:16:41 PM
I hope they don't go to cursed earth in the sequel, there is still way too much to see of Mega City One.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 09 July, 2012, 07:22:13 PM
Cursed Earth was considered for the first movie.
Origins and Dark Judges are the sequels they might do.

QuoteDo we get to see any of the Dark Judges in the film?

Alex Garland:

"In the sequel. Which we can make as long as the film grosses over $50 million in the States. It might be tough – this is an 18, an R rating. The first time I sat down to do the script I did sixteen drafts of (Judge) Death. It didn't feel right. We needed to set it all up first. The next version was all sort of the Long Walk (when Dredd loses faith in the justice system and leaves the city to bring law to the lawless in the Cursed Earth) and America (acclaimed as one of the best Judge Dredd stories), but we needed to get to know Dredd and everyone first. The trilogy would be this film, then Origins (the story of the rise of Mega City One and the Judges) and then the Dark Judges."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 09 July, 2012, 07:33:34 PM
Quote from: Buddy on 09 July, 2012, 07:05:11 PM
I read Garland had considered The Cursed Earth as a follow up but rejected it for an origins story feeling that movie goers not familiar with Dredd needed to know more about Dredd and the city before taking the character out of the city,

If they losely follow the Origins story of the comics they could do both. Present day, cursed Earth, past - the creation of the city.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 July, 2012, 07:45:59 PM
Quote from: Buddy on 09 July, 2012, 07:05:11 PM
I read Garland had considered The Cursed Earth as a follow up but rejected it for an origins



I think the film would need some sort of conceit in order to tell the story of the Judges from the perspective of future-present Dredd. In the ruins of the Cursed Earth is the best locale for that to story unfold and whatever plot they need to get Dredd out there, whether it be Fargo's body, 2TFRUT or something else - the desert is the place to be. Otherwise it'd all be rather academic and linear, and older Dredd wouldn't be driving the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 July, 2012, 07:51:15 PM
One of best Dredd stories I ever read last 15 years, Monkey On My Back, as it mixed with Mega-City 1 and Cursed Earth, that was based in early timeline of  Judge Dredd with CJ Goodman and SJS Chief Cal? Good example?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 09 July, 2012, 08:00:29 PM
I'm all for a cursed earth film with many a mutie in it. And giant spiders and scorpions. Possibly a cat. Death to the norms! Oops what a giveaway...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 09 July, 2012, 09:08:56 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 09 July, 2012, 05:20:59 PM
With all the fuss I thought that Girl with the Dragon Tatt and the Grey would have scored bigger than that,and Haywaire??? Am I the only one who loved that movie?
YES!!

Although a surprising number of other people saw it. It just goes to show what a decent (or at least well known) cast can do for a film. :P

As the SFX guy said, the buzz around Dredd seems to be good, at least from people who have seen it. I can't wait for the first reviews to come out. Not that I really want to read them and basically wreck the film before I've even seen it, but I think word of mouth will do more harm than good at the very least.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 July, 2012, 10:03:54 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 09 July, 2012, 05:19:23 PM
With the talk of Dark Judges, has this guy ever been mentioned?

Javier Boter, seems to specialise in creatures - is in [REC], although I haven't seen it.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GDdqaV6fTwA/Tk7WfONnJdI/AAAAAAAAAvg/BUQz38rIaxA/s780/cabecera%2Bblogg.jpg)

6' 4"

6' 4"? I thought he would have been taller then that! Looks nuts.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 09 July, 2012, 10:12:00 PM
His body, with the mouth of the guy that played the Mouth Of Sauron, would be perfect!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 09 July, 2012, 10:13:35 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 July, 2012, 10:03:54 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 09 July, 2012, 05:19:23 PM
With the talk of Dark Judges, has this guy ever been mentioned?

Javier Boter, seems to specialise in creatures - is in [REC], although I haven't seen it.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GDdqaV6fTwA/Tk7WfONnJdI/AAAAAAAAAvg/BUQz38rIaxA/s780/cabecera%2Bblogg.jpg)

6' 4"

Incredible. He'd be perfect as Death...and Mortis....in fact he could play all four.
Here's another picture. It would be a crime if he were not conssssssssidered.
http://blogs.20minutos.es/ezcultura/2007/11/07/los-sueaaos-son-cumplirlos-javier-botet-se-va-hollywood/

6' 4"? I thought he would have been taller then that! Looks nuts.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 09 July, 2012, 10:17:22 PM
Tell a lie he's 6' 6" or half a Molcher if you prefer...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 09 July, 2012, 10:19:39 PM
I'd rather see him as Fink meself...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 09 July, 2012, 10:38:30 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 09 July, 2012, 10:19:39 PM
I'd rather see him as Fink meself...
...Fink too!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 July, 2012, 01:36:47 AM
Was thinking how lots of films out this year have viral campaigns, and what we would be cool for dredd if they did one.

I think some fake news report of people dying of slo-mo or something would be awesome and other shit that is going on in mega city one, good potential for easter eggs.


Also, a 'judge yourself' thing would be cool, like one of those photo sites where you upload a photo of yourself and it loads it with a judge helmet on.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 10 July, 2012, 02:30:34 AM
Speaking of which, I just saw the Robocop viral thing and was wondering if anyone knew what kind of budget they were working from? There doesn't even appear to be a Wiki page to follow it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 10 July, 2012, 04:58:49 AM
Big I know that and I'm pretty sure it's not an 18.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 10 July, 2012, 07:51:12 AM
I'd guess Oldman and Jackson don't come that cheap for a start.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 July, 2012, 09:12:08 AM
They're starting the marketing before the film is shot, that's how big.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 July, 2012, 10:44:00 AM
I'd love to see some viral stuff going on, not sure whether they've got the budget for it though.

That said, Chronicle did a nice video with those remote controlled flying people, and that had a budget of $12 million.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 10 July, 2012, 11:19:32 AM
Here are my 6 shorts (10 seconds or so each) clips to widen the view of Mega-City One ...creating a cheap-ish viral campaign...but not tied to the DREDD film storyline, but widening the view on to that world....

1. We are looking through a shaky, grimy telescopic site trained on part of a radwagon vehicle rolling out into the cursed earth. The scope would be old and dirty, we'd hear voices, plotting some kind of attack as the vehicle rolls toward us.

2. A grimy mo-pad dashboard screen of a news snippet on drug abuse, we know we are moving because lamppost light is flitting across the dash, the hum of an engine.

3. 2 bat-gliders, near-miss, the pilots curse at each other.

...and as a way to see more city (if the budget would allow)

4. A leaper, climbs upon a ledge and dives into a oblivion, we follow him down...as his phone tells him he's won the lottery. (we then realise that the bat-glider near-miss was caused by this jumper...a frame by frame of the bat glider clip would show the leaper came between them at high speed, almost invisible, clipping them)

5. Closing in on an animated leaflet (or some such) advertising an Ugly Clinic ,stuck to the pavement in the rain. We hear a street broadcast advising pedestrians to head indoors as there are high radiation readings.

6. Lawmaster tire, engine revving. Under a thunder of vehicle sounds we hear a Judges radio broadcasting crime reports.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 July, 2012, 11:51:51 AM
Sorry if I miss the post of this link, as Jock was tweet it;

It details from London Film & Comic Con panel

http://www.thisisfakediy.co.uk/articles/film/dredd-the-lfcc-panel-alex-garland-reveals-sequel-ideas-for-the-18-certifica/ (http://www.thisisfakediy.co.uk/articles/film/dredd-the-lfcc-panel-alex-garland-reveals-sequel-ideas-for-the-18-certifica/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 10 July, 2012, 12:06:14 PM
Yeah well, that Javier Botet is really something...

(http://estaticos04.cache.el-mundo.net/suplementos/imagenes/2009/10/29/1256839370_0.jpg)

I must stress though, for Judge Death, I'd much rather have a good actor than someone naturally emaciated. I don't know about Botet's level of skill, but it's much, much harder to get the guy with the right looks to act the part rather than getting a great actor to look right.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judda fett on 10 July, 2012, 12:13:46 PM
That Javier fellas a bit 'Widow Licker' torso-wise. Have a look at the video by Aphex Twin directed by Chris Cunningham, he could direct a nasty Death. Good horror chops.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 10 July, 2012, 12:21:53 PM
For a Dredd viral I'd like to see something from the perspective of the Hall of Justice. A huge screen or loads of small ones reporting crimes across the city with judgments carried out in real time. Would be a great way to show the scope of what the judges have to deal with. With maybe a bit of user interaction "reporting" crimes spotted on the screens.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 10 July, 2012, 12:47:46 PM
On UK tv 5USA's Inside Hollywood show at 6.55pm will have Karl Urban talking about DREDD.

Don't know if it's footage from the weekend's panel or one of the press interviews he gave while over here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 July, 2012, 12:51:48 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 10 July, 2012, 12:47:46 PM
On UK tv 5USA's Inside Hollywood show at 6.55pm will have Karl Urban talking about DREDD.

Don't know if it's footage from the weekend's panel or one of the press interviews he gave while over here.

Nice, you can watch it on Demand on this link anytime after 6.55pm for next 7 days.

http://www.channel5.com/shows/inside-hollywood (http://www.channel5.com/shows/inside-hollywood)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 10 July, 2012, 01:04:56 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 10 July, 2012, 12:21:53 PM
For a Dredd viral I'd like to see something from the perspective of the Hall of Justice. A huge screen or loads of small ones reporting crimes across the city with judgments carried out in real time. Would be a great way to show the scope of what the judges have to deal with. With maybe a bit of user interaction "reporting" crimes spotted on the screens.
That's a good way to get the scope of the crime problem across and sum up why such a cop is needed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 10 July, 2012, 01:33:32 PM
Quote from: judgefett on 10 July, 2012, 12:13:46 PM
That Javier fellas a bit 'Widow Licker' torso-wise. Have a look at the video by Aphex Twin directed by Chris Cunningham, he could direct a nasty Death. Good horror chops.

I would say that if Pete Travis could not come back for a possible sequel Chris Cunningham would be a good choice. He's had a lot of experience of sci-fi movie making in some capacity, from Hardware to the Alien franchise, as well as being a former Judge Dredd artist. He's well over due for breaking into feature films as a director.

BTW if they had to do Death one day with a mix of practical and digital I'd say Javier Botet is a good choice. I would imagine they'd give him the James Earl Jones treatment voice wise. I believe he has a very strong Spanish accent.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 July, 2012, 01:47:30 PM
Cunningham is a style-heavy director and would probably want to do his own thing with it, though - not really a good thing when an aesthetic has already been established.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 July, 2012, 02:09:15 PM
Regarding the likes of Javier - I always imagined that a Death would be more of a mime even if it was a practical actor - with primarily a voiceover, so it would all be in the body language, so much would be covered facially either by the helmet or prosthetics.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 10 July, 2012, 02:28:07 PM
Cunningham is a talent

That 'Come To Daddy' Aphex video is great

Also the 'Rabbit In The Headlights' Radiohead vid


Also remember that drum & bass vid with the dog swapping brains with the Japanese hospital porter

Genius

Had no idea he had a connection to the Galaxies Greatest!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 July, 2012, 02:43:01 PM
Sorry if it been posted, here is the video of Karl Urban talk at Comic Con....

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xs2cz1_lfcc-2012-london-film-comic-con-dredd-panel-karl-urban_shortfilms (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xs2cz1_lfcc-2012-london-film-comic-con-dredd-panel-karl-urban_shortfilms)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 July, 2012, 03:02:05 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 10 July, 2012, 02:28:07 PM
Cunningham is a talent

That 'Come To Daddy' Aphex video is great

Also the 'Rabbit In The Headlights' Radiohead vid


Also remember that drum & bass vid with the dog swapping brains with the Japanese hospital porter

Genius

Had no idea he had a connection to the Galaxies Greatest!

Yeah, apart from that one episode he drew of Judgement Day, I've not seen any other strips that he drew...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 10 July, 2012, 03:25:02 PM
He did a few covers and, if I remember correctly, a few pages for Son of Mean Machine, which weren't used when the story was first printed, but were included in a special or annual or somethingorother.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 10 July, 2012, 03:29:00 PM
...and he was responsible for Mean and Hammerstein in that film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 10 July, 2012, 04:36:56 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 10 July, 2012, 02:09:15 PM
Regarding the likes of Javier - I always imagined that a Death would be more of a mime even if it was a practical actor - with primarily a voiceover, so it would all be in the body language, so much would be covered facially either by the helmet or prosthetics.

When you posted Javier, I thought of this clip and the actor who was the body of the original Alien.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpKi41a1rJI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 July, 2012, 05:53:47 PM
Quote from: M.I.K. on 10 July, 2012, 03:25:02 PM
He did a few covers and, if I remember correctly, a few pages for Son of Mean Machine, which weren't used when the story was first printed, but were included in a special or annual or somethingorother.

I forgot about the Son of Mean pages...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Leigh S on 10 July, 2012, 06:11:35 PM
And an episode of Judgement Day
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 10 July, 2012, 08:44:57 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 July, 2012, 09:12:08 AM
They're starting the marketing before the film is shot, that's how big.

It's kinda funny how the Robocop guys were lavished with billions for a remake of a popular film, yet the Dredd peeps are given pennies to reboot a franchise widely acknowledged to have had a poor first crack. Though I suppose it helps when you consider the former will be more sanitised in terms of ultra-violence while the latter will crank it up.

I understand it's a little more complicated than that but it's funny how things turn out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 July, 2012, 09:27:03 PM
Well, it did have 2 sequels, live action and animated series, mini-series as well as the rest of the merchandise.

It's got more of a proven franchise potential than Dredd has.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 July, 2012, 09:35:54 PM
Yep, RoboCop was a massive critical and commercial success, the main reason it's getting pushed for a reboot otherwise it probably wouldn't be happening.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 10 July, 2012, 10:14:00 PM
Quote from: Stan on 10 July, 2012, 08:44:57 PM
Quote from: JOE
/quote]

It's kinda funny ...
It's kinda funny because it came from DREDD.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 10 July, 2012, 10:30:11 PM
If Dredd  does become the first in a long running series, Karl Urban will never get too old for the role. He could theoretically play Dredd into his sixties. Wishful thinking.

Has anyone played a role in a film series for so long? Bruce Willis is getting there with Die Hard..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 10 July, 2012, 10:32:27 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 10 July, 2012, 10:30:11 PM
If Dredd  does become the first in a long running series, Karl Urban will never get too old for the role. He could theoretically play Dredd into his sixties. Wishful thinking.

Has anyone played a role in a film series for so long? Bruce Willis is getting there with Die Hard..
Until they do a reboot.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 July, 2012, 10:38:16 PM
They should make it so it moves with real time like the comic. So a sequel would be set however many years it took to make after the events of this one. Though I don't think this specifies what the date is, and doesn't look like it would need to be continued in another film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 July, 2012, 10:39:04 PM
Though I would definitely like to see more then 3.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 10 July, 2012, 11:09:15 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 July, 2012, 09:35:54 PM
Yep, RoboCop was a massive critical and commercial success, the main reason it's getting pushed for a reboot otherwise it probably wouldn't be happening.

It wasn't a 'critical success'. Terrible film that ripped off Dredd as those who made it admited.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 July, 2012, 11:15:07 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 10 July, 2012, 11:09:15 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 July, 2012, 09:35:54 PM
Yep, RoboCop was a massive critical and commercial success, the main reason it's getting pushed for a reboot otherwise it probably wouldn't be happening.

It wasn't a 'critical success'. Terrible film that ripped off Dredd as those who made it admited.


Maybe for you it wasn't a critical success but most critics in 1987 -even Roger Ebert- gave it a positive review and still do.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 10 July, 2012, 11:15:32 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 10 July, 2012, 11:09:15 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 July, 2012, 09:35:54 PM
Yep, RoboCop was a massive critical and commercial success, the main reason it's getting pushed for a reboot otherwise it probably wouldn't be happening.

It wasn't a 'critical success'. Terrible film that ripped off Dredd as those who made it admited.

It was a critical success.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 10 July, 2012, 11:16:54 PM
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1017712-robocop/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 July, 2012, 11:17:10 PM
Keep telling yourself that - just because you don't personally like it doesn't make it true...


From what I remember it got fairly positive reviews like this one.

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19870717/REVIEWS/707170301 (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19870717/REVIEWS/707170301)


and over time gets a pretty good rotten tomatoes review

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1017712-robocop/ (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1017712-robocop/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 July, 2012, 11:19:07 PM
Some old reviews at the time:



http://www.metacritic.com/movie/robocop/critic-reviews
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 11 July, 2012, 12:07:29 AM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 10 July, 2012, 10:30:11 PM
Has anyone played a role in a film series for so long? Bruce Willis is getting there with Die Hard..

Ignoring the four-movies-or-less lightweights like Harrison Ford...

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 11 July, 2012, 12:21:11 AM
And, of course ...

Mel Blanc played Bugs Bunny for 51 years and Daffy Duck for 52 years in literally hundreds of cartoons shown on cinema screens (from Porky's Duck Hunt 1937 to Who Framed Roger Rabbit? in 1989), so surely that counts for something.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 July, 2012, 12:27:12 AM
Even though Leonard Nimoy only made 7 films in 30 years I'd have to give him the award given the prominence of his character.

Plus if you factor in 4 seasons of TV's most famousest sci-fi show..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 11 July, 2012, 12:56:08 AM
Quote from: Stan on 11 July, 2012, 12:27:12 AM
Plus if you factor in 4 seasons of TV's most famousest sci-fi show..

Actually 2 pilots and 3 seasons of the original, plus appearances in 2 seasons of Next Generation, and his 7 Trek films. 1966-2009.  That's 43 years as the same character.  Madness.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 11 July, 2012, 01:30:45 AM
QuoteActually 2 pilots and 3 seasons of the original, plus appearances in 2 seasons of Next Generation, and his 7 Trek films. 1966-2009.  That's 43 years as the same character.  Madness.

Is it any wonder he's typecast? ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 11 July, 2012, 02:31:22 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 11 July, 2012, 12:56:08 AM
Actually 2 pilots and 3 seasons of the original, plus appearances in 2 seasons of Next Generation, and his 7 Trek films. 1966-2009.  That's 43 years as the same character.  Madness.

Frank Welker's played Fred in Scooby Doo cartoons for the same amount of time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 11 July, 2012, 03:25:05 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 July, 2012, 10:39:04 PM
Though I would definitely like to see more then 3.

I wouldn't, however much I dig the big JD, it's rare enough to get a threequel that actually holds up to it's two predecessors, but there's never been a fourth installment of a franchise that was worth spit - Alien Resurrection and ...Kingdom of the Crystal Skull immediately spring to mind - if Dredd gets to three installments (and I certainly hope they do), you couldn't get more of a big finish than having a mortal existential threat from the Dark Judges, that's where it should end...

Quote from: A.Cow on 11 July, 2012, 12:07:29 AM

  • Clint Eastwood was Dirty Harry for 17 years (*cough* Judge Dredd *cough* Karl Urban's voice in Dredd) in 5 movies, although they got gradually worse.
  • Charles Bronson did Death Wish for 20 years and 5 movies.
  • Bruce Willis did John McClane for 25 years in 5 movies (fifth due 2013).
  • Stallone did 6 Rocky movies in 30 years.
  • But, technically speaking, I believe that Desmond Llewellyn holds the record at 17 Bond films spanning 36 years.

And out of all of those sequels, the only ones worth talking about were Die Hard 2 (very nearly as good as the original, although I'm in a minority on that opinion), Die Hard With A Vengeance (where it should have ended), and Rocky 2 (nearly as good as the original), all the others, just forget it, the Bond movies notwithstanding...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 11 July, 2012, 03:30:18 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 10 July, 2012, 02:09:15 PM
Regarding the likes of Javier - I always imagined that a Death would be more of a mime even if it was a practical actor - with primarily a voiceover, so it would all be in the body language, so much would be covered facially either by the helmet or prosthetics.

Or have actors perform in motion-capture and the Dark Judges be rendered as completely CG creations, they're supposed to be inhuman creatures of utter malevolence, having an actor in prosthetics would lessen the impact, no?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 July, 2012, 03:46:15 AM
I like all four Rocky films equally but differently but I can't really think of any other franchise which hadn't completely nuked the fridge by that point.

Quote from: Stan on 11 July, 2012, 12:27:12 AM
Even though Leonard Nimoy only made 7 films in 30 years I'd have to give him the award given the prominence of his character.

Plus if you factor in 4 seasons of TV's most famousest sci-fi show..

Aaah, for whatever reason I had four series in mind. Karl better start the Bruce Forsyth Plan™ if he's to beat Nimoy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 July, 2012, 03:50:47 AM
Obviously I meant the first four Rocky films. I realise they released a fifth one in 2006. Which is also enjoyable in its own way. It just lacks that nostalgic feeling from seeing it as a bitter old man.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 11 July, 2012, 07:04:52 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 11 July, 2012, 12:21:11 AM
And, of course ...

Mel Blanc played Bugs Bunny for 51 years and Daffy Duck for 52 years in literally hundreds of cartoons shown on cinema screens (from Porky's Duck Hunt 1937 to Who Framed Roger Rabbit? in 1989), so surely that counts for something.

I'd like to have seen a Mel Blanc voiced Judge Death...or at least Walter.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 11 July, 2012, 07:13:05 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 11 July, 2012, 03:30:18 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 10 July, 2012, 02:09:15 PM
Regarding the likes of Javier - I always imagined that a Death would be more of a mime even if it was a practical actor - with primarily a voiceover, so it would all be in the body language, so much would be covered facially either by the helmet or prosthetics.

Or have actors perform in motion-capture and the Dark Judges be rendered as completely CG creations, they're supposed to be inhuman creatures of utter malevolence, having an actor in prosthetics would lessen the impact, no?
Not CG...great tech but no matter how good I always that uncanny valley feeling ...but look at that clip I posted from the alien test - that is terrifying, it's grounded and real in a way CG rarely is. Nah, ye need a suit worker with great make up...perhaps some CG slime and ecto. But KNB effects and Javier ...and Mel Blancs son as the voice...and it would FREAK everybody out!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 11 July, 2012, 10:43:44 AM
I agree with Beaky on the motion capture - a meatsuit job might just look too TOS Star Trek. Should be interesting to see what Weta does with Cumberbatch as Smaug. On the other hand, LOTR suits the unreality feeling from special effects, that airbrushed look, whereas for the grim realness that we're hoping for Dredd, that might just look completely wrong, BUT on the other hand again! - Dark Judges could suit a dose of unreality.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 July, 2012, 11:38:39 AM
Anyone know what time the San Diego Comic Con screening is UK time?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 July, 2012, 11:45:51 AM
6AM tomorrow.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 July, 2012, 11:51:45 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 11 July, 2012, 03:25:05 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 July, 2012, 10:39:04 PM
Though I would definitely like to see more then 3.

I wouldn't, however much I dig the big JD, it's rare enough to get a threequel that actually holds up to it's two predecessors, but there's never been a fourth installment of a franchise that was worth spit - Alien Resurrection and ...Kingdom of the Crystal Skull immediately spring to mind - if Dredd gets to three installments (and I certainly hope they do), you couldn't get more of a big finish than having a mortal existential threat from the Dark Judges, that's where it should end...




I think it would be cool, lots of action movies have long running series, Rambo, Death Wish, Die Hard, Dirty Harry, etc.

Sure, the later instalments sometimes aren't very good, but I think it quite suits the episodic style treatment rather then a story that spans three films.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 11 July, 2012, 12:00:35 PM
Will an official indepth review be released after the screening or is it still all hush! hush?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 11 July, 2012, 12:30:29 PM
Screening at SDCC? These marketing people clearly haven't got a clue what they are doing.

Why save the screening as a big, unspoilt bang at the most reported on Comic and Movie expo in the world when they could have been spoilerfically drip feeding little bits and snippets to UK cons with an audience of tens of people?.



Yes, I am being sarcastic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 11 July, 2012, 12:31:26 PM
Empire have an interview with Wagner and Garland - http://www.empireonline.com/interviews/interview.asp?IID=1530
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 11 July, 2012, 12:41:57 PM
Garland gets it:

QuoteI think one of the most interesting things about Dredd is that he ages in real time over the course of the comics. That doesn't lead to that sort of classic film story arc of some great epiphany, or moment of redemption and resolution and all that sort of stuff. But what John does is have Dredd evolve, in the way that a glacier moves

Excellent interview - hope the guys have a great time over in San Diego!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 11 July, 2012, 12:51:03 PM
Nice read,I enjoyed that
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 11 July, 2012, 01:00:28 PM
Brilliant.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 July, 2012, 01:04:10 PM
OOh I love John Wagner!

Wagner: I think we're fighting the first movie to some extent. This one is so different. The link is really just the name and uniform, and that's it. The first film really had nothing to do with Judge Dredd, whereas this one is all Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 11 July, 2012, 01:17:23 PM
New article here: http://www.empireonline.com/interviews/interview.asp?IID=1530
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 11 July, 2012, 01:18:29 PM
Doh, Just noticed the post above.Sorry  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 11 July, 2012, 03:03:44 PM
QuoteCan I namecheck something else though? There's another Judge Dredd film being made at the moment called Judge Minty. It's a fan film, but it's highly impressive, and in that film, which you can see clips of and a kind of trailer they've cut on YouTube, they've taken a very faithful approach to Dredd's uniform, and the bike, and Mega City One. It's much more CG-heavy than our film, but it does show that there's another way of doing it that works.

:o  That man Garland really is a classy gent, isn't he?  And I love the Peach Trees origin story, brilliant! 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 11 July, 2012, 04:19:44 PM
Alex is an awesome bloke.. Can't say it enough.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 11 July, 2012, 04:23:51 PM
I watched that Inside Hollywood the other night, but no Dredd. Did I get the dates wrong or something?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 July, 2012, 04:35:18 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 11 July, 2012, 11:45:51 AM
6AM tomorrow.

Whoa!

Looks like I won't get the goss until after work tomorrow night!

Cheers Steve G!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 11 July, 2012, 06:33:44 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 11 July, 2012, 04:23:51 PM
I watched that Inside Hollywood the other night, but no Dredd. Did I get the dates wrong or something?

No, but maybe 5USA's twitter guy did. It seems there's no new show on the demand5 (http://www.channel5.com/demand5) site. It might be on the show tonight which is definately a new episode. We'll see! It'll probably be just a clip from the panel and some trailer footage.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 11 July, 2012, 07:49:36 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 11 July, 2012, 12:07:29 AM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 10 July, 2012, 10:30:11 PM
Has anyone played a role in a film series for so long? Bruce Willis is getting there with Die Hard..

Ignoring the four-movies-or-less lightweights like Harrison Ford...


  • Clint Eastwood was Dirty Harry for 17 years (*cough* Judge Dredd *cough* Karl Urban's voice in Dredd) in 5 movies, although they got gradually worse.
  • Charles Bronson did Death Wish for 20 years and 5 movies.
  • Bruce Willis did John McClane for 25 years in 5 movies (fifth due 2013).
  • Stallone did 6 Rocky movies in 30 years.
  • But, technically speaking, I believe that Desmond Llewellyn holds the record at 17 Bond films spanning 36 years.

Sticking with features, rather than shorts, Rasil Bathbone and Nigel Bruce did fourteen Holmes films in seven years. I can understand the argument that Dredd's episodic adventures and lack of character development make him suited to a series of sequels, but it should be noted that all the series listed above demonstrate the law of diminishing returns.

There's something about the nature of mainstream film making that means features tend toward three part story telling structures- within individual films, and across trilogies. I think HBO TV shows have demonstrated how their format and production values allow different kinds of stories to be told and quality to be maintained across many instalments and several years.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 11 July, 2012, 07:57:45 PM
Speaking of Holmes, Peter Cushing played him in The Hound of the Baskervilles (1959), the TV series in 1968, and The Masks of Death (1984).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 11 July, 2012, 08:30:17 PM
It should be an HBO mini-series. HBO if they can do GOT they can apply the same level of sofiticaticaion to a scifi series like DREDD.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 July, 2012, 08:55:51 PM
This been done yet?

Bit more of the panel here, on the question about the costume

http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2012/07/11/alex-garland-comments-on-costume-changes-in-dredd/ (http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2012/07/11/alex-garland-comments-on-costume-changes-in-dredd/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 July, 2012, 09:08:23 PM
Nice flash-frames. Glad Garland didn't pull his punches.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 July, 2012, 09:14:53 PM
Yeah, not sure what they did there...

He did a good job, the line about the vehicles made me smile. I don't think anyone dared ask about them after that...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 11 July, 2012, 09:23:08 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXjECK3xVQQ&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXjECK3xVQQ&feature=player_embedded)

Not sure what the subliminal messages contained in that clip were, but I no longer care about the vehicles and I want to buy Jaffa cakes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 11 July, 2012, 09:25:17 PM
Loved that little clip, thanks! Is there a video anywhere of the whole panel?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 July, 2012, 09:30:15 PM
Not that I know of - there are a few scattered around, but not seen any of the whole thing...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 11 July, 2012, 09:34:10 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 11 July, 2012, 08:55:51 PM

http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2012/07/11/alex-garland-comments-on-costume-changes-in-dredd/ (http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2012/07/11/alex-garland-comments-on-costume-changes-in-dredd/)

This line of questioning at this point is just a bit Naff.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 July, 2012, 09:40:51 PM
Still better than one waste of a question asking about film projection on Sunday...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 11 July, 2012, 09:58:01 PM
@goaty: about the 5USA tuesday thing: Today on wednesday Karl was spotted at LAX so I assume it only was the piece of Reuters. No need to hunt that piece down.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 11 July, 2012, 10:59:29 PM
http://www.scifinow.co.uk/cinema/dredd-3d-is-an-improvement-on-stallone/ (http://www.scifinow.co.uk/cinema/dredd-3d-is-an-improvement-on-stallone/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 July, 2012, 12:36:59 AM
Ha, Garland got that punk good!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 12 July, 2012, 03:11:17 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 July, 2012, 11:51:45 AM
I think it would be cool, lots of action movies have long running series, Rambo, Death Wish, Die Hard, Dirty Harry, etc.  Sure, the later instalments sometimes aren't very good, but I think it quite suits the episodic style treatment rather then a story that spans three films.

Y'know what, I stand corrected on something I said here, there is a fourth installment of a long-running franchise that was as good as the others; 2008's Rambo, a worthy follow-up to First Blood - forget the first two cartoon sequels - and also an appropriate coda for Stallone's signature role, forgot about that film, cheers Mr Eliminator...

Great Empire article with Alex Garland and John Wagner, this movie is going to blow the (bloody) doors off, I know it, very heartening to see just how enthusiastic John Wagner is for this one, must be something of a cathartic experience after seeing his creation so mangled and sullied with the 1995 debacle, by October, no-one will even remember that travesty, Karl Urban will own that role from here on in...

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 July, 2012, 04:00:10 AM
2 hours till the lucky drokkers see the film  :'(  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 July, 2012, 04:16:50 AM
Stupid PDT. Hopefully they enjoy it and there's a good word-of-mouth result though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 12 July, 2012, 04:51:43 AM
No news yet then?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 July, 2012, 05:15:29 AM
They just tweeted a picture of the queue and there was a bloke wearing a Mortis t-shirt near the front.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 12 July, 2012, 05:18:58 AM
Nice,theres a twit pic of two judges one psi up on he front page too
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 July, 2012, 06:09:35 AM
They must all be enjoying themselves now!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 12 July, 2012, 06:32:28 AM
Where and when should we expect the first tentative reviews to filter out, then?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 12 July, 2012, 06:41:05 AM
Over the next few hours, I would imagine.

Dredd's film FB page is posting some pics. Here's one one of Urban and Thrilby introducing the film!

http://instagram.com/p/M-CbgDPtFY/ (http://instagram.com/p/M-CbgDPtFY/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 06:42:36 AM
Olivia looks nice!

(http://i.imgur.com/Zw9wn.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 12 July, 2012, 07:50:44 AM
Dredd Draws long line... :P
http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/07/12/dredd-3d-screening-draws-long-line-at-comic-con/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 July, 2012, 07:56:28 AM
I expect the tweets to be starting soon  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 July, 2012, 08:06:38 AM
There seems to be a bit of a thing gone wrong with the queue. People have said that there was only 50-60 seats for the fans out of 250. The rest went to press, so we'll have to wait and see what has happened.
One lass flew in from Oz and waited 4 hours only to be told she ain't going in  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 12 July, 2012, 08:08:41 AM
Random tweets when I did a search..

@colliderfrosty:
DREDD was a super hard R and a lot better than I thought it would be. Again....super hard R. 3D was also great.

@firstshowing:
Dredd 3D - Uh yea, that was awesome. Badass, loved it. Yes, the helmet never comes off. Liked it more than The Raid, a lot more, honestly.

@JHoffman6:
On a pop fascist level DREDD makes STARSHIP TROOPERS look like BATTLESHIP POTEMKIN #SDCC

@alllyourfriends
#Dredd was amazing

@TexasTechWrekem
#Dredd was a mix between Crank and The Raid which means it was awesome! Expect my review tomorrow on @MovieBuzzers

@TorturedXGenius
2 outta 3 of my favorite bloggers i follow liked #DREDD a lot....this is good.

@JHoffman6
Props to Lena Heady: her few center stage moments are tremendous. Great villain. #Dredd #SDCC

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 08:09:27 AM
Just hope Blackmorro finally go in?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 12 July, 2012, 08:13:34 AM
@alllyourfriends
Dredd was honestly the best movie I've seen this year.

@Ethan_Anderton
DREDD is brutal, bloody and a bad ass blast of old school action. I was skeptical and ended up being highly entertained.

@filthysize
Just saw DREDD. It's all right. Wafer thin story, but violent as all fuck with a great attitude to it. Less scifi, more cop. #SDCC

@Bilal_Mian
Was Dredd really that good? The buzz is making me go WTF

And finally a word from Empire magazine...

@empiremagazine
Dredd Goodd. Longer reaction to come soon, followed by the full Empire review. We're that drokking efficient.

So it went well then?  :o :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 12 July, 2012, 08:20:39 AM
Ah man I'm sat here with a massive grin on my face, I hope against hope that this will do well, please please please!!! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 12 July, 2012, 08:24:07 AM
@slashfilm
DREDD is a lot of fun. A return to 80s action, The Raid meets Robocop on a mini scale. great use of high fps slow mo 3d. Gritty &

@jonniechang
enjoyed DREDD. dig the new costume. movie's kinda simple, but I think it benefits from staying focused. awesome soundtrack!

@GermainLussier
Dredd is super solid. Great music and fun action wrapped around a simple, straight narrative. Minor reservations are secondary. It's tight.

@MangoMonkeyBoy
Dredd was excellent! Gritty, violent and beautiful! #sdcc

@benpears
Apparently everyone really liked DREDD. I wasn't as impressed. It has excellent moments, but for an action movie, it was slllllooooowwww.

@cablebfg (Collider writer)
I have to say I'm surprised by the solid reactions to DREDD. The previews aren't doing it any benefits

@ajhan
#Dredd: not too dumb, not too smart, very bloody, fun.

@TheJoBloPodcast
DREDD kicks a lot of ass. Great score. Great kills. Great Lena. It didn't hurt that Karl Urban sat in my row. #overexcited

@filthysize
Karl Urban got the character right, but the movie treats Dredd's fascism as real hope. The comic's always been more satiric than that. #SDCC

@benpears
For all of DREDD's worldbuilding, it sure is small scale. Probably an effect of having a low budget. But it felt almost too contained to me.

@PeedUpProd
I don't know if DREDD is better than THE RAID: REDEMPTION but in about 2 months time we'll see if that comes true. #ComicCon

@TorturedXGenius
ok, now 3 out of 3 of my fave bloggers liked #DREDD .....

@DukeD1989
Initial reactions to Dredd seem to be positive...hell must have just gotten much colder.

@Reelnerdchick
Finally finished wih #Dredd - great movie lots of fun; met Karl Urban - what a nice guy!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 12 July, 2012, 08:32:26 AM
I hope the 2000AD droids brought some extra Case Files with them, looks like they may have a busy SDCC  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 12 July, 2012, 08:34:58 AM
Delighted!...even those tweets that are trying to be bad are good. >:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 08:36:07 AM
YES! That is what I anted to hear! Sounds like they nailed it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 08:38:13 AM
Now the Dredd happens, all excellent for Sept!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 12 July, 2012, 08:38:44 AM
@trishaleighKC
So DREDD is hands down the most violent film I've ever seen in my life. #SDCC

:o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 12 July, 2012, 08:41:51 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 12 July, 2012, 08:38:44 AM
@trishaleighKC
So DREDD is hands down the most violent film I've ever seen in my life. #SDCC

:o
Amen!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 08:42:45 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 12 July, 2012, 08:38:44 AM
@trishaleighKC
So DREDD is hands down the most violent film I've ever seen in my life. #SDCC

:o

Too much for her?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 12 July, 2012, 08:47:16 AM
I think it was meant somewhat positively! A few others have echoed the sentiment.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 12 July, 2012, 08:52:41 AM
We've all known that this movie was going to be Solid for a while.
Now the world knows.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 12 July, 2012, 08:58:06 AM
THis is tense.. Can't wait for our man's opinion..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 12 July, 2012, 09:00:51 AM
First reaction from Empire Magazine...

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34550 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34550)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 12 July, 2012, 09:01:36 AM
@jasonpadams  Unanimous opinion from the JoBlo.com Team: #Dredd3D kicked ass! You have no idea what's in store. Full review tomorrow. #SDCC
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 09:03:22 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 12 July, 2012, 09:00:51 AM
First reaction from Empire Magazine...

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34550 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34550)

Sly Stallone vehicle from 1993.? Who idiot wrote it?

And last comment in this article ruined it, and follow us on Twitter where we'll bring you regular updates from tomorrow, starting with the Breaking Dawn Pt 2 and Expendables 2 panels, to name but two.  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 12 July, 2012, 09:05:10 AM
Whoever wrote it wrote it at 2am in the morning, t'were likely just a typo.

First reaction from Total Film too...

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/dredd-first-reaction (http://www.totalfilm.com/news/dredd-first-reaction)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 09:07:14 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 12 July, 2012, 09:05:10 AM
Whoever wrote it wrote it at 2am in the morning, t'were likely just a typo.

First reaction from Total Film too...

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/dredd-first-reaction (http://www.totalfilm.com/news/dredd-first-reaction)

Now that better!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 12 July, 2012, 09:12:54 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 09:07:14 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 12 July, 2012, 09:05:10 AM
Whoever wrote it wrote it at 2am in the morning, t'were likely just a typo.

First reaction from Total Film too...

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/dredd-first-reaction (http://www.totalfilm.com/news/dredd-first-reaction)

Now that better!
ummmm... They both said it was good..!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 July, 2012, 09:18:49 AM
Great to hear it's going down well - I expect they'd want to release a red-band trailer off the back of the ultra-violence buzz...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 July, 2012, 09:19:07 AM
This is just perfect news all round. Well done to Team DREDD  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 09:24:58 AM
Funny how the one consistent negative point being made is that Dredd lacks scale, or looks a bit low budget.

I wonder - do the people making these comments actually know how much it cost to make? Are they directly comparing it to the likes of Battleship/The Avengers?

It's a positive sign that so far no one is saying the special effects themselves look cheap.

These early reviews - especially the Total Film one - are better than I could have dreamed. I actually just punched the air reading through them!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 12 July, 2012, 09:34:16 AM
Quote from: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 09:24:58 AM
Funny how the one consistent negative point being made is that Dredd lacks scale, or looks a bit low budget.

I wonder - do the people making these comments actually know how much it cost to make? Are they directly comparing it to the likes of Battleship/The Avengers?

It's a positive sign that so far no one is saying the special effects themselves look cheap.

These early reviews - especially the Total Film one - are better than I could have dreamed. I actually just punched the air reading through them!

I can't believe they poured that much money into such a waste of time.. I'd watch it only for an alien being shot in the face with an 80mm cannon and the odd minigun, but that's it..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 12 July, 2012, 09:37:44 AM
Quote from: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 09:24:58 AMI actually just punched the air reading through them!

...me too, I went to get my brekkie and suddenly did something similar, right out of character...made a fist, bared teeth, kicked foot forward and whispered a foul oath!...not sure what possessed me. But this news has made my day.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 09:43:30 AM
Also worth pointing out that by the sounds of it a few of the more cautious/negative tweets are by people who haven't actually seem the film - they're just surprised that it's been week-received...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 12 July, 2012, 09:43:44 AM
Beautiful,just beautiful!

LET'S GET PISSED EVERYONE(even though it's 9.43 in the morning!)!! :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 12 July, 2012, 09:45:38 AM
Looks extremely promising! SDCC can be a real gamble, a movie can die before launch if the buzz goes bad over there. The only (semi-) negatives are non-issues. Similar to The Raid. So what? Lower budget than The Avengers. So what?

It's DREDD done right!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 12 July, 2012, 09:45:54 AM
..has anyone got Blackmocco's number to wake him up?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 12 July, 2012, 09:54:43 AM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 12 July, 2012, 09:43:44 AM
Beautiful,just beautiful!

LET'S GET PISSED EVERYONE(even though it's 9.43 in the morning!)!! :P
:)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 July, 2012, 09:55:04 AM
There have been some comments that it may be played too straight, without the satire - like Starship Troopers before Verhoeven skewered it as a satire on fascism.

Obviously I haven't seen it, but that sounds like a more considered opinion than most.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 12 July, 2012, 09:56:19 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 12 July, 2012, 09:45:54 AM
..has anyone got Blackmocco's number to wake him up?
Did he get a ticket?....It's not too far from him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 10:02:56 AM
QuoteKarl Urban, standing with costar Olivia Thirlby, introduced the screening by asking, "I hope you like your films dark and gritty. Do ya?" After that, he took a slight dig at Stallone by saying that fans of lycra and gold codpieces would be disappointed.

If there were still any lingering doubt about it - yes, Karl Urban is indeed the man.

Somewhat cautious, pessimistic article by Deadline. They make some solid points, but realistically how many in the screening were true fans of comic Dredd? Good to hear that the insane violence was met with cheering and laughter!

http://www.deadline.com/2012/07/comic-con-dredd-plays-to-cheering-fans-but-will-it-play-to-the-mainstream/ (http://www.deadline.com/2012/07/comic-con-dredd-plays-to-cheering-fans-but-will-it-play-to-the-mainstream/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 10:05:47 AM
First full review:

http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/07/12/dredd-the-comicbook-com-review/ (http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/07/12/dredd-the-comicbook-com-review/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 10:06:00 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 July, 2012, 09:55:04 AM
There have been some comments that it may be played too straight, without the satire - like Starship Troopers before Verhoeven skewered it as a satire on fascism.

Yes, but (in the grand internet traditon of I completely disagree with what you just said) maybe that's good. I'd hate the film to tell people what to think.

I've seen maybe two negative tweets, and about a hundred very positives. Nothing inbetween. We'll see what the longer reviews and podcasts say once they've all sobered up and weighed their experience.

Reading the tweets as they've been coming through the past couple of hours has made me feel how I felt when I read the script. Positive. It looks like the comic will be secure for a while which is the main thing!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 12 July, 2012, 10:08:54 AM
Quote from: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 10:05:47 AM
First full review:

http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/07/12/dredd-the-comicbook-com-review/ (http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/07/12/dredd-the-comicbook-com-review/)

10/10!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 12 July, 2012, 10:09:48 AM
People saying its the best comic book movie they have seen all year after Avengers doing gangbusters and a new Spidey in the mix is praise indeed. The reviews so far have been far and away above what I could have hoped to see.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 12 July, 2012, 10:10:00 AM
Brilliant news ,if "norms" are luving it us Dredd geeks are going to flip....defo two shows on day one for me.....best movie news all year
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 July, 2012, 10:10:08 AM
I wouldn't have though there would be that many comic fans making the trek to the showing, although if that report of only 60 getting in it might be a bit skewed - having a bit of a retro vibe in the violence sounds like a solid idea - no idea how it will play out, but it's sounding a lot more positive than a few months ago.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 10:11:24 AM
From the review:

QuoteHaving been somewhat concerned after seeing the stylized slow-motion filmmaking in the movie's trailer, it was halfway into the movie before a switch in my head flipped and I realized that we weren't dealing with Sucker Punch or something–it's more like Sin City. The bits where the 3D effects and the visual effects in general stop being realistic weren't just poorly-done, but stylized for a purpose. That's the moment the film went from being a good actioner with moments of shoddy effects to one that really had something interesting to offer cinematically.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mike Carroll on 12 July, 2012, 10:11:51 AM
Quote from: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 10:05:47 AM
First full review:

http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/07/12/dredd-the-comicbook-com-review/ (http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/07/12/dredd-the-comicbook-com-review/)

Love this line: "If Die Hard and Sin City had an awesome, brilliant, violent baby, this film would be it."

That'll be a nice quote for the DVD!

Even more excited now about the movie!

-- Mike
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 July, 2012, 10:14:05 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 10:06:00 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 July, 2012, 09:55:04 AM
There have been some comments that it may be played too straight, without the satire - like Starship Troopers before Verhoeven skewered it as a satire on fascism.

Yes, but (in the grand internet traditon of I completely disagree with what you just said) maybe that's good. I'd hate the film to tell people what to think.

I've seen maybe two negative tweets, and about a hundred very positives. Nothing inbetween. We'll see what the longer reviews and podcasts say once they've all sobered up and weighed their experience.

Reading the tweets as they've been coming through the past couple of hours has made me feel how I felt when I read the script. Positive. It looks like the comic will be secure for a while which is the main thing!

Yeah, we'll see how it goes - I just worry when I talk to people who take Dredd far too literally...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 12 July, 2012, 10:17:04 AM
Awesome :) - That tight nod of dread despite being outwardly hopeful, desperately outwardly hopeful, has totally dissipated. Feels like a ton just slipped right off my back.

And not to harsh the squee, but was it this positive for Scott Pilgrim too? I remember the CCon crowd loved that and yet it flopped outside it. And yes, I know comparing the two ain't fair, different genres yadda yadda, but I'm asking cuz I'm simply curious. I never saw Pilgrim and never paid attention to the Con reaction at the time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 10:24:10 AM
Scott Pilgrim didn't have the appeal of shooty and explody things! :)

Lockout, a similar run the gauntlet sci-fi film got good con buzz, but flopped. IMHO it had a heart missing, and the leads weren't charismatic enough. Thirlby in DREDD is the heart, and that does seem to have played well. But it's still early days...!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 12 July, 2012, 10:25:59 AM
Thank grud for that after a two year wait the fans expectations have been met.  PR chaps need to flog this to the american general public now. With a month and a bit left and TDKR out soon it's a tough call . Good luck everybody.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 12 July, 2012, 10:28:21 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 July, 2012, 10:14:05 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 10:06:00 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 July, 2012, 09:55:04 AM
There have been some comments that it may be played too straight, without the satire - like Starship Troopers before Verhoeven skewered it as a satire on fascism.

Yes, but (in the grand internet traditon of I completely disagree with what you just said) maybe that's good. I'd hate the film to tell people what to think.

I've seen maybe two negative tweets, and about a hundred very positives. Nothing inbetween. We'll see what the longer reviews and podcasts say once they've all sobered up and weighed their experience.

Reading the tweets as they've been coming through the past couple of hours has made me feel how I felt when I read the script. Positive. It looks like the comic will be secure for a while which is the main thing!

Yeah, we'll see how it goes - I just worry when I talk to people who take Dredd far too literally...

Isn't that just a part of the fascination people have with the character? Sure he's fascist, but is there another way to deal with something as extreme as MC-1? Since it all takes place in an insane world, maybe an insane system is the only way.

I would go so far as to say Dredd is a real hero, in the context of his own world. I would actually be slightly disappointed if they played the satire card too strongly. I don't need it written on my nose. Dredd's behaviour should be more than enough to convey it. And even if they do play it straight, I suspect Anderson is there to provide a different perspective.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 12 July, 2012, 10:28:44 AM
IGN give it 8 out of 10! http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/07/12/dredd-review
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 10:31:15 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 July, 2012, 10:14:05 AM
Yeah, we'll see how it goes - I just worry when I talk to people who take Dredd far too literally...


Same as the people who take Dity Harry literally.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 12 July, 2012, 10:31:53 AM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 12 July, 2012, 10:17:04 AM
Awesome :) - That tight nod of dread despite being outwardly hopeful, desperately outwardly hopeful, has totally dissipated. Feels like a ton just slipped right off my back.

And not to harsh the squee, but was it this positive for Scott Pilgrim too? I remember the CCon crowd loved that and yet it flopped outside it. And yes, I know comparing the two ain't fair, different genres yadda yadda, but I'm asking cuz I'm simply curious. I never saw Pilgrim and never paid attention to the Con reaction at the time.

That film had multiple swings to fans apparently. By the time it reached theatres everyone who wanted to see it had already done so . Reportedly lots of people got left outside in this showing , because it was mostly press. Makes more sense to drum up good word of mouth.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 12 July, 2012, 10:32:22 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 10:31:15 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 July, 2012, 10:14:05 AM
Yeah, we'll see how it goes - I just worry when I talk to people who take Dredd far too literally...


Same as the people who take Dity Harry literally.

The Daily Mail are already gearing up  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 12 July, 2012, 10:33:01 AM
Swings = showings
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 12 July, 2012, 10:34:43 AM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 12 July, 2012, 10:28:44 AM
IGN give it 8 out of 10! http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/07/12/dredd-review
Has it been pulled ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 10:36:14 AM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 12 July, 2012, 10:31:53 AM

That film had multiple swings to fans apparently. By the time it reached theatres everyone who wanted to see it had already done so . Reportedly lots of people got left outside in this showing , because it was mostly press. Makes more sense to drum up good word of mouth.


By that logic it would mean only a few thousand fans really wanted to see Pilgrim because relatively few would have seen it in previews, so even without the previews, whether it showed at the cons or not wouldn't have made a difference.

The film was enjoyable by bloated. In contrast Dredd seems a fairly tight crowd pleaser.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 12 July, 2012, 10:37:19 AM
Delighted to see the good feedback.,

Really hope this one goes down a storm. Cannot wait.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 12 July, 2012, 10:37:22 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 12 July, 2012, 10:34:43 AM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 12 July, 2012, 10:28:44 AM
IGN give it 8 out of 10! http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/07/12/dredd-review
Has it been pulled ?

Looks like it, maybe they posted it early by accident. It was very positive though!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 10:38:02 AM
QuoteAnd not to harsh the squee, but was it this positive for Scott Pilgrim too? I remember the CCon crowd loved that and yet it flopped outside it. And yes, I know comparing the two ain't fair, different genres yadda yadda, but I'm asking cuz I'm simply curious. I never saw Pilgrim and never paid attention to the Con reaction at the time.

Scott Pilgrim got very good Comic Con buzz, but was quite simply never going to appeal to anyone other than geeks - specifically a subset of largely male, nostalgic, thirtysomething geeks at that. It was a very Marmite proposition (personally I found it irritating and unfunny) and had far too narrow an appeal to warrant the $60m it took to make.

With any luck, DREDD will appeal to the geek audience and the Statham fans and gorehounds alike.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 10:44:49 AM
Quote from: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 10:05:47 AM
First full review:

http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/07/12/dredd-the-comicbook-com-review/ (http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/07/12/dredd-the-comicbook-com-review/)

Sorry out of studio, and nice pages to catch up!

I love this quote in that link;

Dredd is a violent, gory film with more F-bombs than the average Quentin Tarantino movie and more energy spent on how the body reacts to being punished than anything I've seen since Saving Private Ryan. It's one of the hardest R's I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 10:46:43 AM
Interesting review here, the only gripe seems to be what wasn't in the film:


http://veryaware.com/2012/07/sdcc-2012-review-dredd/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 12 July, 2012, 10:47:57 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 10:36:14 AM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 12 July, 2012, 10:31:53 AM

That film had multiple swings to fans apparently. By the time it reached theatres everyone who wanted to see it had already done so . Reportedly lots of people got left outside in this showing , because it was mostly press. Makes more sense to drum up good word of mouth.


By that logic it would mean only a few thousand fans really wanted to see Pilgrim because relatively few would have seen it in previews, so even without the previews, whether it showed at the cons or not wouldn't have made a difference.

It's called Fuzzy Logic  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 10:48:26 AM
io9 like it:

QuoteDredd is, first and foremost, though, an action movie, a self-contained sequence of events that comes to simple and satisfying ending. It does not force its Judges to confront any larger truths about their function in society

Hey, that's what sequels are for...

http://io9.com/5925364/dredd-is-a-brutal-action-flick-with-both-a-high-body-count-and-a-brain (http://io9.com/5925364/dredd-is-a-brutal-action-flick-with-both-a-high-body-count-and-a-brain)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 10:50:00 AM
I haven't seen one 'helmet too big' comment yet. Just goes to show that it was always nonsense.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 10:50:11 AM
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/07/12/i-went-to-see-dredd-last-night-and-i-want-to-tell-you-about-it/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 12 July, 2012, 10:52:28 AM
Seeing Twitter comments along the lines of 'very violent, with dark humour; Crank meets The Raid' are wonderful to see.  Seems the buzz for this is just growing and growing...

:)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 10:54:05 AM
There's also a fair amount of black humor surrounding Mega-City One's poverty and familiarity with blood, although Dredd doesn't always feel the need to zoom in on the joke.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 10:54:31 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 10:50:11 AM
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/07/12/i-went-to-see-dredd-last-night-and-i-want-to-tell-you-about-it/

Well done production!

The production design of the film is, to a very large extent, extremely naturalistic. While Mega-City One was conceived and portrayed as being American, at least wherever the comic has to give specific bearing, the components of Mega city life, and the elements being satirised and lampooned, were often particularly British. Again, the cityscapes of Dredd on the big screen seemed English to me. These images of masked, hooded rioters seemed to come from the BBC news archive, not CNN. It's much more Children of Men than I Am Legend.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 12 July, 2012, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 10:48:26 AM
io9 like it:

QuoteDredd is, first and foremost, though, an action movie, a self-contained sequence of events that comes to simple and satisfying ending. It does not force its Judges to confront any larger truths about their function in society

Hey, that's what sequels are for...

http://io9.com/5925364/dredd-is-a-brutal-action-flick-with-both-a-high-body-count-and-a-brain (http://io9.com/5925364/dredd-is-a-brutal-action-flick-with-both-a-high-body-count-and-a-brain)

I like that review!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 12 July, 2012, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 10:50:00 AM
I haven't seen one 'helmet too big' comment yet. Just goes to show that it was always nonsense.


*cringes* - you just had to tempt fate, didn't you?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 10:59:31 AM
it's back up
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/07/12/dredd-review
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 11:01:04 AM
QuoteI haven't seen one 'helmet too big' comment yet. Just goes to show that it was always nonsense.

It was never nonsense - unless you think that there's nothing at all funny/strange about this particular, unfortunate shot:

(http://geektyrant.com/storage/2011-post-images/DREDD202012_Karl20Urban2.jpeg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1328554129014)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 11:03:53 AM
QuoteThe decision to leave the helmet on for the entire film works -- the character of Dredd is held purposely at a distance from the audience. We see him very much from the perspective of Anderson – a forbidding examiner. When Dredd first meets Anderson, [spoiler]she's asked to read Dredd's mind to demonstrate the extent of her impressive psychic abilities. Her description broadly sketches out the character of Dredd, but as she is about to unearth his hidden motivations, the Chief Justice cuts her off. It hints at a deeper character that you know is there -- you feel it -- but it's intentionally kept obscured.[/spoiler] The decision to keep the helmet on for the entire movie underscores his character. You know there's something there, but it's ambiguous; purposely obscured.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 11:04:04 AM
Best bit in that review:

The decision to leave the helmet on for the entire film works -- the character of Dredd is held purposely at a distance from the audience. We see him very much from the perspective of Anderson – a forbidding examiner. [spoiler]When Dredd first meets Anderson, she's asked to read Dredd's mind to demonstrate the extent of her impressive psychic abilities. Her description broadly sketches out the character of Dredd, but as she is about to unearth his hidden motivations, the Chief Justice cuts her off. [/spoiler] It hints at a deeper character that you know is there -- you feel it -- but it's intentionally kept obscured. The decision to keep the helmet on for the entire movie underscores his character. You know there's something there, but it's ambiguous; purposely obscured.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 11:04:24 AM
Snap
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 11:05:27 AM
Quote from: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 11:01:04 AM
It was never nonsense - unless you think that there's nothing at all funny/strange about this particular, unfortunate shot:


It's nonsense outside of context.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 12 July, 2012, 11:06:28 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 10:59:31 AM
it's back up
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/07/12/dredd-review

Brilliant
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 11:07:50 AM
QuoteThe new Judge Dredd movie is a gripping character study that's fuelled by action and violence.

That'll do, pig.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 12 July, 2012, 11:09:05 AM
Well this is all enormously heartening, I must say. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 12 July, 2012, 11:10:15 AM
Has Blackmocco posted about it on here yet?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 12 July, 2012, 11:10:46 AM
Just typing `Dredd`into Twitter search and seeing the result brings a warm glow  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 11:16:52 AM
http://veryaware.com/2012/07/sdcc-2012-review-dredd/


Many story and character elements that are seemingly significant are brought up repeatedly but never followed through. Particularly, there are points made about Judge Anderson and her "gifts", which I won't spoil here, that I thought were meant to be important in one way or another, but are never followed through, even though it's suggested that other people like her are outcast from society. Similarly, there seems to be a recurring motif of the two judges running into children, though it's unclear why this is ever important or if it means anything at all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 12 July, 2012, 11:18:08 AM
I cant stop grinning today! Most of those reviews are absolutely excellent! Of course there are quibbles but the do seem relatively minor.

At last, the Dredd movie we've been hoping for!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 12 July, 2012, 11:20:26 AM
From various comments I've read, it looks like a lot of people who were sceptical following the trailer are either now fully converted or willing to give this a go; the overwhelmingly positive reviews seem to be working wonders.  Word of mouth and the general buzz surrounding Dredd will hopefully go a long way to putting bums on seats come September.

And I predict that the press coverage will reach critical mass once CF hits Shrewsbury.

:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 12 July, 2012, 11:22:37 AM
It's all the reviewers griping about the vehicles that I can't stand.  Oh, wait...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 July, 2012, 11:27:27 AM
Oh wow, I  have been smiling uncontrollably with excitement reading through the reveiws! So fucking stoked now, bring on September!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 12 July, 2012, 11:28:33 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 12 July, 2012, 11:22:37 AM
It's all the reviewers griping about the vehicles that I can't stand.  Oh, wait...

It turns out the 'vintage' vehicles are entirely in keeping with early Dredd (more or less).  When the film hits, I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for a Ford Cortina.

Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 11 July, 2012, 04:41:48 PM
(http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp42/dr_cyclopz/032_edit0.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 12 July, 2012, 11:32:15 AM
Quote from: ming on 12 July, 2012, 11:28:33 AMWhen the film hits, I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for a Ford Cortina.

Yes, but there better not be more than ten, or I will be voicing my displeasure at this continuity error on the internet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 12 July, 2012, 11:41:50 AM
Some guy on twitter posted that DREDD was

'Hands Down the most violent film I have seen in my life'

:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 11:48:02 AM
Lena Headey gives either the best or worst performance in the film, depending on who you listen to...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 12 July, 2012, 11:49:20 AM
I reckon (going on the reviews..), it's, as I predicted, going back to the 80's levels of gore and violence that's indeed been missing for so long in the movies these days. A proper hard film for a change.. I can't wait..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 11:53:59 AM
http://screencrush.com/dredd-movie-review/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 12 July, 2012, 12:05:32 PM
http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/07/12/dredd-the-sfx-verdict/ (http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/07/12/dredd-the-sfx-verdict/)

"Karl Urban is a fantastic Dredd, never removing his helmet and never letting lawbreakers get away with it. Relentless, unforgiving and compelling, he encapsulates all the complexity of Mega-city One's foremost fascist lawman with an economy and rugged authority that's a delight to behold. "

Exactly what I wanted. Efficiency. Not endless martial art repetition. God, I could cry I'm so happy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 12 July, 2012, 12:07:13 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 12 July, 2012, 12:05:32 PM


Exactly what I wanted. Efficiency. Not endless martial art repetition. God, I could cry I'm so happy.

I feel EXACTLY the same!42 years old and it's like Christmas as a boy!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 12 July, 2012, 12:13:27 PM
36 going on 18, me - and we're lucky, chuffster, I feel sorry for the old sods who act their age! Miss out on all this? Not on yer life!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dunk! on 12 July, 2012, 12:17:23 PM
I'd just like to sum up all this new coverage of Dredd by typing Yay! Roll on Sept 7th

In 2D for me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 July, 2012, 12:40:53 PM
This is so great! I am loving all the "80s action" "ridiculously violent" stuff. They have nailed it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 12 July, 2012, 12:45:17 PM
Great review over at AICN too .....happy days
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 12 July, 2012, 12:45:40 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 12 July, 2012, 12:13:27 PM
36 going on 18, me - and we're lucky, chuffster, I feel sorry for the old sods who act their age! Miss out on all this? Not on yer life!

;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 12 July, 2012, 12:49:54 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 12 July, 2012, 12:45:17 PM
Great review over at AICN too ...

Shite, we're doomed. 

;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 12 July, 2012, 12:50:30 PM
QuoteIt's a pleasure-pleasure movie, not a guilty-pleasure movie.
AICN
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 12:55:13 PM
Happy Drokking Day!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 12 July, 2012, 01:00:45 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 12:55:13 PM
Happy Drokking Day!

You could at least have your avatar smiling for the occasion..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 July, 2012, 01:01:36 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 12 July, 2012, 11:41:50 AM
Some guy on twitter posted that DREDD was

'Hands Down the most violent film I have seen in my life'

:lol:

That's ace. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 01:07:23 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 12 July, 2012, 01:00:45 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 12:55:13 PM
Happy Drokking Day!

You could at least have your avatar smiling for the occasion..

How that?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 12 July, 2012, 01:08:09 PM
Garland's Antarctic retreat, today:

(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33724/1561690-i_did_it_super.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 12 July, 2012, 01:10:16 PM
I'm very amused by IGN UK's facebook post on the review, they are taking the unusual step of replying to thier own post and defending against any trolls and idiots, awesome stuff. :D

https://www.facebook.com/IGNUK
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 12 July, 2012, 01:18:35 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 01:07:23 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 12 July, 2012, 01:00:45 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 12:55:13 PM
Happy Drokking Day!

You could at least have your avatar smiling for the occasion..

How that?

Bloody awesome!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 12 July, 2012, 01:22:51 PM
Quote from: AICN
the guns are badass
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 01:27:09 PM
Fab! As on twitter, in top 10 of trends, guess what on it?

(http://i.imgur.com/qaWKT.png?1)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 12 July, 2012, 01:29:05 PM
Fck me, reading these reviews is making me feel seriously emotional.


IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT! WE HAVE OUR DREDD FILM!!!!

So excited! So happy!!!!

:D :'( :D :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 12 July, 2012, 01:32:50 PM
This is great. I've known for a long time that I was going to love it, hearing all this positive feedback from the wider world is making my day.

Can. Not. Wait.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 12 July, 2012, 01:40:52 PM
So happy right now, the fact all those reports and reviews are very similar and are saying the same things which are all the right things just fills me with glee. This is going to be ace, I've decided to take the day off work to see it twice.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 12 July, 2012, 01:47:54 PM
Even the less enthusiastic Reviews are Positive ones.

July the 12 is Dredd Christmas!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 12 July, 2012, 01:49:15 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 12 July, 2012, 01:22:51 PM
Quote from: AICN
the guns are badass

Yay!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 12 July, 2012, 01:49:42 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 12 July, 2012, 01:08:09 PM
Garland's Antarctic retreat, today:

(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33724/1561690-i_did_it_super.jpg)
:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 01:51:47 PM
I've potentially got to go to America for work in September. Is it wrong that I'm going to try and schedule it so as to not clash with September the 7th?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 12 July, 2012, 01:53:16 PM
Quote from: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 01:51:47 PM
I've potentially got to go to America for work in September. Is it wrong that I'm going to try and schedule it so as to not clash with September the 7th?

No, it's not wrong. Faking your own death in order to watch the film is also acceptable.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 12 July, 2012, 01:55:44 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 12 July, 2012, 01:47:54 PM
July the 12 is Dredd Christmas!!
NO WAY...IT'S ARMADREDDON!!!!!  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 July, 2012, 02:17:28 PM
All this praise should be good to help get Dredd where I live. (Small Island with only two cinemas, and only three screens between them)

Working at one of them should also help, hopefully I can get my hands on some of the posters too!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 12 July, 2012, 02:51:16 PM
seeing all the positive vibes here is getting me all emotional, man!

if I could run round and give you all a hug and a wedgie, I would... well the wedgie anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 12 July, 2012, 02:51:52 PM
And now the world knows too Karl and Dredd rock. :)
I hope blackmocco did make it in. I voted and rooted for him so hard. A friend who fly in from australia didn`t make it  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 12 July, 2012, 03:23:19 PM
Solomon Kane director on Dredd on twitter...'Dredd; loved it. True to the ultra violence and satire of the comic. Karl Urban totally nails it.'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 12 July, 2012, 03:27:30 PM
I think one of the more encouraging things to come out of all the comments and reviews is that (for the most part) they don't represent a narrow slice of geekdom (i.e. us).  If the buzz was just down to a bunch of nostalgic, hopelessly optimistic hardcore 2000AD fans (yes, you :)) it would be one thing, but the film seems to appeal to a pretty wide audience comprising people unfamiliar with the source material.  Again, I'm hoping this all translates to more bums on seats and that Dredd gets off to a flying start when it's released.

Holy Mother of Grud, it's hard not to get swept away by all this, isn't it?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 12 July, 2012, 03:33:00 PM
Much like the apparently universal viewing of The Raid by the interneteratti, I am moved to wish that 2000AD actually had as many readers as commentators who know that the film either is or isn't faithful to Dredd the comic-book character...

What's interesting about the reviews so far is that the biggest negatives (such as they are) seem to relate to wanting more from the film in terms of social commentary, colourful villains and wider vistas, even while clearly enjoying what is there already.  That can only be good news for the future.   
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 12 July, 2012, 03:34:55 PM
@ming: very happy here :) Will those same reviews get printed in magazines too?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 12 July, 2012, 03:35:23 PM
Agreed, alot of people seem to love what they were shown, but just want MORE! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 12 July, 2012, 03:37:32 PM
Are these reviews likely to make it to metacritic / rotten tomatoes ? Interested to see what sort of aggregate score they kick out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 12 July, 2012, 03:39:12 PM
I thought RT only starts collating reviews a couple of weeks before a films release?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 03:40:47 PM
Apparently the running time is just over 90mins. Perfect. So many films are too long these days!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 12 July, 2012, 03:55:33 PM
This is a lesson for future adaptations. It worked because they didn't try to second guess the source material. i.e the Dredd character, which has worked on the page for 35 years.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 12 July, 2012, 04:06:27 PM
Let's keep Dredd trending on Twitter. Everyone go and post something with the #Dredd hash tag RIGHT NOW!  Include a review link if you can.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 12 July, 2012, 04:16:47 PM
Also spreading the word and links via Facebook ...  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 12 July, 2012, 04:37:54 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 12 July, 2012, 03:55:33 PM
This is a lesson for future adaptations. It worked because they didn't try to second guess the source material. i.e the Dredd character, which has worked on the page for 35 years.
Also, a lesson for this forum, in that the marketing people behind this film DID know what they were doing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 04:43:58 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 12 July, 2012, 04:37:54 PM
Also, a lesson for this forum, in that the marketing people behind this film DID know what they were doing.

THIS!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 12 July, 2012, 04:54:11 PM
@IndigoPrime: I do not understand your comment very good, terms translation. Does it mean this fan forum did not help for the marketing?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 12 July, 2012, 04:57:17 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 12 July, 2012, 01:53:16 PM
Quote from: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 01:51:47 PM
I've potentially got to go to America for work in September. Is it wrong that I'm going to try and schedule it so as to not clash with September the 7th?

No, it's not wrong. Faking your own death in order to watch the film is also acceptable.

:lol: :lol:Bastard -I almost chocked on my tea on that one - Brilliant.

Happy Days.

(No point scoring Indigo -it's the FILM thats blown everyone away -thank GRUD, not anything else)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 12 July, 2012, 04:57:48 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 12 July, 2012, 04:37:54 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 12 July, 2012, 03:55:33 PM
This is a lesson for future adaptations. It worked because they didn't try to second guess the source material. i.e the Dredd character, which has worked on the page for 35 years.
Also, a lesson for this forum, in that the marketing people behind this film DID know what they were doing.

There's still work to be done on the marketing front, methinks, if the masses out there who don't live on the internet and/or obsess about the latest movie releases are to even realise this movie exists. So far they seem to have done well at reaching a hardcore audience but not so much at reaching a wider, more general audience.

That said, judging by the various reactions it looks like Garland, Travis, Urban an co. nailed the actual movie itself, so hopefully word of mouth will do at least some of the marketing people's job for them. I for one will be telling everybody I know to go see it. Should they fail to comply, the sentence will be death.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 12 July, 2012, 05:03:16 PM
Well, Lionsgate has my 100€ (cin-tickets,DVD,BluRay). Not much, but my part.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 05:08:19 PM
Going to try and make it an event - round up 15+ mates to go see it opening night.

Realistically, the girls will probably opt out, but hopefully should manage to get a decent number together to go see it like I did with The Raid last month.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 12 July, 2012, 05:10:46 PM
@radiator: do not underestimate the hidden love of double-R movies and girls. "I" have to pull my guy to Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 July, 2012, 05:14:52 PM
Indigo Prime means all the bemoaning a lack of trailer/marketing/website/poster etc during the summer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 12 July, 2012, 05:17:29 PM
@Steve: Hm. Okay.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 12 July, 2012, 05:26:45 PM
Hey Goaty, love your new avatar! 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 05:30:58 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 12 July, 2012, 05:26:45 PM
Hey Goaty, love your new avatar!

It's my happy mood after positive reviews on Dredd!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 12 July, 2012, 05:32:38 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 12 July, 2012, 04:37:54 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 12 July, 2012, 03:55:33 PM
This is a lesson for future adaptations. It worked because they didn't try to second guess the source material. i.e the Dredd character, which has worked on the page for 35 years.
Also, a lesson for this forum, in that the marketing people behind this film DID know what they were doing.

Not trying to tarnish this perfect day but the fact that the film is well received at SDCC has nothing to do with the marketing. We'll know in late September.

That seems to be the only thing that can f**k up now, failing to attract the mainstream audience.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 12 July, 2012, 05:38:52 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 12 July, 2012, 11:41:50 AM
Some guy on twitter posted that DREDD was

'Hands Down the most violent film I have seen in my life'

:lol:

Nice comment, but to be fair it could well have been made by somebody who just wasn't around back when we had proper violent films.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 12 July, 2012, 05:39:03 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 12 July, 2012, 05:32:38 PMNot trying to tarnish this perfect day but the fact that the film is well received at SDCC has nothing to do with the marketing.
No, but the showing was part of the marketing plan, and while SDCC is, clearly, of limited range, we're not just seeing Comic Blog X write about Dredd, but Empire, Total Film and other big outlets. It was the kind of maximum impact moment that a small film like Dredd needs, which could have a knock-on effect elsewhere. Right now, positive noises and reviews are bleeding out into the web, and some will also make it to print.

Note also that I'm not saying "job done", but that things have started well, and this is promising (versus the general forum ranting that the team in place had no idea what it was doing).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 12 July, 2012, 05:42:34 PM
Quote from: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 05:08:19 PM
Realistically, the girls will probably opt out

Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 12 July, 2012, 05:10:46 PM
@radiator: do not underestimate the hidden love of double-R movies and girls. "I" have to pull my guy to Dredd.

More girls than guys want to go, my side. Trufax! I am truly blessed.

The reviews are astoundingly good, with the most substantial negative being a lack of ambition - which is fantastic! Because they have ambition, they just didn't have the budget to realise that ambition, and hopefully Dredd will be successful enough that budget will not be the stumbling for the sequel.

Fantastic reviews, I still can't get over it. Refreshing the pages to keep up and still fantastic reviews from new sources. Surreal. What a freaking good day!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 12 July, 2012, 05:42:40 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 12 July, 2012, 05:39:03 PMNote also that I'm not saying "job done", but that things have started well, and this is promising (versus the general forum ranting that the team in place had no idea what it was doing).

Nice to know you're not decking out the aircraft carrier with an enormous 'mission accomplished' banner quite yet! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 12 July, 2012, 05:48:11 PM
...Just realised my post above actually referred to something that happened almost a decade ago. And here's me thinking I'm being current and relevant... definitely a sign of age. I'll get me coat (<--- another ancient reference. It was deliberate this time).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 12 July, 2012, 05:54:18 PM
Im glad real glad that this film has scored a positive hit on tinterweb moreover twatter. It is exactly this "word of mouth" which will now escalate ten fold. Im especially pleased with the review over at aintitcool and the feedback there.

All good :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 06:02:42 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 12 July, 2012, 04:37:54 PM
Also, a lesson for this forum, in that the marketing people behind this film DID know what they were doing.


Unfortunately in today's homogenised entertainment continuum many think there's only one way to skin a cat because that's what they're conditioned to react to, but this cat required a different type of skinning and it's working. Having a good film is half way there to selling itself, the rest is knowing what to do with it.

The marketing for this film was always a better idea closer to release especially now that it seems to be a 'surprise' to many people that it might actually be really good. The fact that it's managed to take some attention away from TDKR for a few days -a film that's had frequent bursts of advertising since last year- shows that stealth can be a better strategy when trying to get noticed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 12 July, 2012, 06:06:15 PM
I feel sorry for anyone going to see Dredd who ends up sat next to Commando Forces.
He'll be poking them with his day stick if they munch on their popcorn too loudly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 12 July, 2012, 06:09:59 PM
Now this is a really encouraging review from someone who didn't know Dredd beyond the Stallone movie: http://www.craveonline.com/film/reviews/192005-comic-con-2012-review-dredd-3d (http://www.craveonline.com/film/reviews/192005-comic-con-2012-review-dredd-3d)

QuoteOh, Dredd made me so happy.

All I knew about Judge Dredd was the Stallone movie and I loved the concept even back then. I thought it was a great franchise for Stallone, a future where every cop was judge, jury and executioner. So I don't know if the comic books were any better, but they sure did an amazing remake of a bad '90s sci-fi movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 12 July, 2012, 06:11:22 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 06:02:42 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 12 July, 2012, 04:37:54 PM
Also, a lesson for this forum, in that the marketing people behind this film DID know what they were doing.


Unfortunately in today's homogenised entertainment continuum many think there's only one way to skin a cat because that's what they're conditioned to react to, but this cat required a different type of skinning and it's working. Having a good film is half way there to selling itself, the rest is knowing what to do with it.

The marketing for this film was always a better idea closer to release especially now that it seems to be a 'surprise' to many people that it might actually be really good. The fact that it's managed to take some attention away from TDKR for a few days -a film that's had frequent bursts of advertising since last year- shows that stealth can be a better strategy when trying to get noticed.

I'd certainly concur that if you have a very limited marketing budget (which presumably they do for Dredd) it's probably best to splurge most of it on one big saturation campaign as close to the release date as you can reasonably get away with.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mejustnow on 12 July, 2012, 06:19:54 PM
Just jumping in to say how truly excited I am with the mainly thoroughly positive reviews the Comicon screening is getting. Bad word of mouth would have killed it dead but these reviews seem like a massive shot in the arm. US box office will be what it will be, but I know that US genre fans have been bemoaning watered down violence and blue lanuage for years now.  I hope these reviews get additional bums on seats, followed by subsequent word of mouth.

I'm even more psyched now...if that were possible
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 12 July, 2012, 06:21:02 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 12 July, 2012, 05:39:03 PM...versus the general forum ranting that the team in place had no idea what it was doing.

In fairness, I think there was the full range of opinion on this, some of it well-argued and informed, rather than 'general forum ranting'.  I know negativity is always more visible, but I'm conscious that this forum frequently gets referred to as if it holds a single irrational opinion on everything, when that is usually very far from what I observe day-to-day.

That, of course, is in no small part due to the stringent anti-troll measures employed by Admin and Mods.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 12 July, 2012, 06:25:16 PM
@Mark: Exactly. Also, the more you spend on marketing, the more you need to claw back at the box office. It's a balancing act. (Mind you, I suspect people forget how expensive even posters for cinemas worldwide can be—it all adds up.)

Looking around, I still think this is a bloody risky film for modern cinema, and the $50m target Garland set might be tricky to hit. However, it's also striking me as a film that could do very well indeed on shiny disc/download, if it doesn't manage to strike in the cinemas. Either way, I'm very much looking forward to seeing it now—well, in 2D at least.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 12 July, 2012, 06:28:50 PM
It will make a mint in DVD sales I bet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 12 July, 2012, 06:33:24 PM
This is all great news. I've been telling anyone who'll listen to me for more than 30 seconds that the word is it's good and they can all stop worrying now.

I wonder if it'll get a biggish uk premier and how people like us can get in.

Also are we looking at a Christmas DVD/blu-ray release? What's the timeframe from cinema to home these days? I remember the days when it would be 18 months.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 12 July, 2012, 06:34:56 PM
So many reviews, so many pages!

Wow, this is great, int it. Glad its gone down a treat. And amongst non-Dredd fans as well!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 06:37:03 PM
Lionsgate traditionally spend less on marketing than other movie studios.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 06:38:09 PM
QuoteAlso are we looking at a Christmas DVD/blu-ray release?

Hopefully. The window is about three months these days.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 12 July, 2012, 06:40:53 PM
It would suck if the DVD and BluRay would already be available when half of the release countries still wait for the Cinema release. *remembers Scott Pilgrim*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 12 July, 2012, 06:52:49 PM
http://www.ew.com/ew/ will livestream an interview with the DREDD crew. *in around 3 hours*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 12 July, 2012, 07:11:19 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 12 July, 2012, 05:39:03 PM
Note also that I'm not saying "job done", but that things have started well, and this is promising (versus the general forum ranting that the team in place had no idea what it was doing).

Cool, I agree with that  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 12 July, 2012, 07:12:36 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 12 July, 2012, 06:52:49 PM
http://www.ew.com/ew/ will livestream an interview with the DREDD crew. *in around 3 hours*

Thanks for this ! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 July, 2012, 07:12:59 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 12 July, 2012, 05:10:46 PM
@radiator: do not underestimate the hidden love of double-R movies and girls. "I" have to pull my guy to Dredd.

Yeah, but you're..[echo] one of us [/echo].
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 07:22:17 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 12 July, 2012, 06:52:49 PM
http://www.ew.com/ew/ will livestream an interview with the DREDD crew. *in around 3 hours*

Great!


Also, first part of the LFCC panel from Saturday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_kfxZXcXH0
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 12 July, 2012, 07:23:54 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 12 July, 2012, 06:52:49 PM
http://www.ew.com/ew/ will livestream an interview with the DREDD crew. *in around 3 hours*

And Doctor Who an hour later! Thanks for the link!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 12 July, 2012, 07:39:00 PM
I can't find anything on that link, where should I be looking?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 July, 2012, 07:42:58 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 07:22:17 PM
first part of the LFCC panel from Saturday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_kfxZXcXH0

I pop up 3 times in that clip on the right of the right hand screen  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 12 July, 2012, 07:47:12 PM
I note that of the reviews on AICN, there is now an amusing lack of negative comments, whereas last week, you couldn't move for trolls!BEAUTIFUL"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 12 July, 2012, 07:52:09 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 12 July, 2012, 07:47:12 PM
I note that of the reviews on AICN, there is now an amusing lack of negative comments, whereas last week, you couldn't move for trolls!BEAUTIFUL"

Haha! Yeah I noticed that earlier too, beautiful indeed! :D

The curse of the "IAHM! TEHLAH!" might actually be lifted.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 07:55:00 PM
LFCC Dredd Panel video from last Saturday, part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGCOILDMdMs
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 08:00:54 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 12 July, 2012, 07:39:00 PM
I can't find anything on that link, where should I be looking?

To the top right of the live video window there's a button "see schedule instead". Dredd: Karl Urban, Olivia Thirlby, Lena Headey on at 3:45pm which'd be 23:45 UK time tonight.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 12 July, 2012, 08:07:20 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 12 July, 2012, 07:47:12 PM
I note that of the reviews on AICN, there is now an amusing lack of negative comments, whereas last week, you couldn't move for trolls!BEAUTIFUL"


Amazing eh ? ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 07:55:00 PM
LFCC Dredd Panel video from last Saturday, part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGCOILDMdMs


I've been wondering since I first saw some panel clips, is that the Dredd soundtrack playing in the background as the host introduces the speakers?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 July, 2012, 08:10:56 PM
Don't think so - the music in the clip was much more Carpentery/Electronica.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 12 July, 2012, 08:12:46 PM
http://www.ew.com/ew/package/0,,20399642,00.html (http://www.ew.com/ew/package/0,,20399642,00.html)

That page may help with the DREDD panel (Urban Thirlby et all - 23:45 GMT) thanks to KarlUrbanInternational for the heads up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 12 July, 2012, 08:16:45 PM
Hard to know what to say. Just got back from San Diego a few minutes ago and I'm fucking dog-tired. The reviews pretty much nail it so I won't repeat much of what they say.

It's really everything you could possibly want from a Dredd adaptation. If you've read the script that leaked, the bare bones of it are there but they've done quite a bit of embellishing since, and it's all for the good.

It's just a fantastic movie. It really, really is. Absolutely relentless and wrenching. The violence has weight and consequences to it, not just completely mindless. If you have any misgivings about the vehicles or the uniform, they'll be blasted away (along with your eardrums! Haha!) thirty seconds in. Urban is perfect in every conceivable way. Thirlby is a beauty but she really grounds the movie and you feel for her with some of the decisions and actions she has to make.

The thing that really appealed to me was that they've really created a world that makes sense within the confines of the movie. There's no question whatsoever this is a place that needs the likes of the Judges to try and keep order. Everywhere is just filthy and dangerous and the movie exudes a poisonous atmosphere throughout. A sinking feeling that even though the likes of Dredd[spoiler] (and Hershey, apparently)[/spoiler] are out there doing their duty that there's no way they'll ever stop this. It's too big for them. They're putting band-aids on a severed head.

Better yet, Dredd is realized perfectly onscreen. When people are afraid of him, you know why. He's like the shark in Jaws in this: Precise and exact and a terrifying figure to behold if you're on the wrong side of the law.

It's a thing of beauty. I don't agree with a lot of these reviews in regard to the 3D. I found it completely enhanced the movie, especially with the slo-mo sequences and I usually hate the experience so that's saying something.

If you haven't read the leaked script, I would say stay away from it and just go in cold. You are NOT going to be disappointed.

The line had about 400-500 people waiting since 4pm for a 10pm screening and afterwards I heard about twenty people from that line made it in as opposed to this VIP and his guest who was one of the first in. The atmosphere was pretty good. Not quite as raucous as some of these reviews suggest but I more than made up for those boring cunts on my own. Shook hands with The Urban as he left as well. Told him it was fucking awesome and I'd been waiting a long time for this. He told me he'd made the movie just for me. Great guy. He must be very proud of this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 08:18:04 PM
Nice one.



Ya jammy bastard.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 July, 2012, 08:21:43 PM
Lovely.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 12 July, 2012, 08:22:40 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 12 July, 2012, 08:16:45 PM
Hard to know what to say. Just got back from San Diego a few minutes ago and I'm fucking dog-tired. The reviews pretty much nail it so I won't repeat much of what they say.

It's really everything you could possibly want from a Dredd adaptation. If you've read the script that leaked, the bare bones of it are there but they've done quite a bit of embellishing since, and it's all for the good.

It's just a fantastic movie. It really, really is. Absolutely relentless and wrenching. The violence has weight and consequences to it, not just completely mindless. If you have any misgivings about the vehicles or the uniform, they'll be blasted away (along with your eardrums! Haha!) thirty seconds in. Urban is perfect in every conceivable way. Thirlby is a beauty but she really grounds the movie and you feel for her with some of the decisions and actions she has to make.

The thing that really appealed to me was that they've really created a world that makes sense within the confines of the movie. There's no question whatsoever this is a place that needs the likes of the Judges to try and keep order. Everywhere is just filthy and dangerous and the movie exudes a poisonous atmosphere throughout. A sinking feeling that even though the likes of Dredd[spoiler] (and Hershey, apparently)[/spoiler] are out there doing their duty that there's no way they'll ever stop this. It's too big for them. They're putting band-aids on a severed head.

Better yet, Dredd is realized perfectly onscreen. When people are afraid of him, you know why. He's like the shark in Jaws in this: Precise and exact and a terrifying figure to behold if you're on the wrong side of the law.

It's a thing of beauty. I don't agree with a lot of these reviews in regard to the 3D. I found it completely enhanced the movie, especially with the slo-mo sequences and I usually hate the experience so that's saying something.

If you haven't read the leaked script, I would say stay away from it and just go in cold. You are NOT going to be disappointed.

The line had about 400-500 people waiting since 4pm for a 10pm screening and afterwards I heard about twenty people from that line made it in as opposed to this VIP and his guest who was one of the first in. The atmosphere was pretty good. Not quite as raucous as some of these reviews suggest but I more than made up for those boring cunts on my own. Shook hands with The Urban as he left as well. Told him it was fucking awesome and I'd been waiting a long time for this. He told me he'd made the movie just for me. Great guy. He must be very proud of this.

Been waiting for your review mate..good to get an opinion of a true fan

Buzzin
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 July, 2012, 08:25:33 PM
Great news Blackmocco, glad you had a blast. Where you in those pictures that were tweeted, one showing the queue and one showing the audience?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 12 July, 2012, 08:25:45 PM
Congrats on finally getting to see it!

Really not sold on 3D, and usually avoid it like the plague, but i reckon at least one of my visits to see Dredd is gonna have to be in 3D, now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 12 July, 2012, 08:27:49 PM
A few other things:

- I think there's a good chance this'll do very well at the box office. I'm delighted to see the positive reviews on AICN and io9. This bodes very well.

- The soundtrack is absolutely fantastic.

- I'm actually of the thought the Dark Judges may well work in this after all. There's enough leeway with Anderson's abilities and how they're presented that it may not be such a leap after all to add some supernatural elements.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 12 July, 2012, 08:28:19 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 July, 2012, 08:25:33 PM
Great news Blackmocco, glad you had a blast. Where you in those pictures that were tweeted, one showing the queue and one showing the audience?

Yep CF. I'm in front with the Mortis shirt. I'm very handsome.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: rog on 12 July, 2012, 08:30:20 PM
Zowee, started reading this a few hours ago and have only just managed to catch up, extra pages kept appearing!

Nothing coherent to add but from everything I'm reading it sounds totally amazing, can't wait for September! :D

Just have to stay up now and remember to watch that stream at 11.45 (Doctor Who an hour later might be pushing it tho!)

Awesomeness! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: rog on 12 July, 2012, 08:32:30 PM
blackmocco, you lucky lucky b*stard lol

Glad you enjoyed it so much, your comments have got me even more stoked for this :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 July, 2012, 08:33:35 PM
I tweeted that there was someone in a Mortis T-shirt, you were next to the bloke in the Heavy Metal T-shirt, can't remember the group!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 12 July, 2012, 08:41:47 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 July, 2012, 08:21:43 PM
Lovely.

Indeed. Spiffing. Tea and scones, anybody?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 12 July, 2012, 08:52:46 PM
Delighted for you Blackmocco!  And us!   :D
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Martin Jameson on 12 July, 2012, 08:53:49 PM
Really pleased the reaction has been so good, roll on Sept! All we need now is the Daily Mail to condemn it and we have a winner!
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 09:03:21 PM
Quote from: Light Surfer on 12 July, 2012, 08:53:49 PM
Really pleased the reaction has been so good, roll on Sept! All we need now is the Daily Mail to condemn it and we have a winner!

With Turkey, crap critic of Daily Mail who hate comic-style or violence films cos it affect the children?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 12 July, 2012, 09:05:51 PM
Awesome! That's quite a load off!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 12 July, 2012, 09:06:28 PM
Really glad to hear you got to see the film, blackmocco - and even happier to hear your opinion of it.  Is it September yet?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 12 July, 2012, 09:06:46 PM
I have just trawled through 15 pages of pure bliss. Nothing but love for the film.




V
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 12 July, 2012, 09:08:15 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 09:03:21 PM
Quote from: Light Surfer on 12 July, 2012, 08:53:49 PM
Really pleased the reaction has been so good, roll on Sept! All we need now is the Daily Mail to condemn it and we have a winner!

With Turkey, crap critic of Daily Mail who hate comic-style or violence films cos it affect the children?

Not just the children, my cat also has been so traumatised by violent films that she can no speak coherent English and has to resort to communication using dozens of different variations of the word "meow".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 12 July, 2012, 09:11:35 PM
Happy for you, blackmocco, while dying of envy.

That full Empire review takes the prize for most mentions of the Raid in a Dredd review. Ho hum.

Personally, the sheer fact it's not the Raid is fanf*ckingtastic in my book, since I didn't see that because I had had it up to here with martial arts movies. I love Jackie and Jet and when they were beginning to bore me, making me yell "just put him down already, Jesus H!" I knew I had to step away before my love for them was forever tainted... anyway! Back to the point! =

Anyone seen both now? I'd love to hear your opinion on it all. I promise not to leap down your throat if Dredd suffers in comparison for you, since the fact it's Dredd on top of all I'm hearing from the reviews puts it tops for me. As always, just curious.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 12 July, 2012, 09:13:14 PM
Oy, I'm fucking wrecked. Left Los Angeles yesterday at 2.30. Drive to San Diego's usually about 2 and 1/2 hours. 129 miles. Twenty miles out from SD and it all went to hell. Took two hours stuck in the worst rush hour/"we're going to Comic-Con and don't know where we're going!" traffic imaginable. Wanted to cry.

Parked the car, pint of Guinness, straight to the theater and stood in line. Had horrible visions of not getting in again when I saw the line wrapped up the street and around the block. Met someone who'd won through Rebellion as well and flown in from New Zealand in his home-made Dredd costume (the only one!). Rolled in.

Karl and Olivia presented the movie. I went fucking mad. Michael VK's in the credits. The movie is chock full of nods to the comic. [spoiler]Chopper's very prominently displayed as is Kenny Who?[/spoiler] I'm sure there's loads more but would need to see it a bunch of times to reference everything.

Had a discussion regarding with some saddo who told me the biggest problem with the movie is that "Dredd's not really much of a character, is he...?" Michael Keaton was the greatest Batman as well, apparently. Couldn't listen to his shite anymore.

Myself, my friend and New Zealand Rebellion winner and his brother went for numerous pints of Guinness and raved about movie. Got to bed at 3am. got up at 7. Drove the 129 miles to the FG offices and here I am.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 12 July, 2012, 09:18:37 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 12 July, 2012, 08:28:19 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 July, 2012, 08:25:33 PM
Great news Blackmocco, glad you had a blast. Where you in those pictures that were tweeted, one showing the queue and one showing the audience?

Yep CF. I'm in front with the Mortis shirt. I'm very handsome.
So pleased you ended up a VIP after what happened last time, great news.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 12 July, 2012, 09:23:59 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 12 July, 2012, 09:11:35 PMThat full Empire review takes the prize for most mentions of the Raid in a Dredd review. Ho hum.

Haven't seen The Raid and although it seems interesting I'm definitely not going to see it now until after I have seen Dredd at least a couple of times. I just don't want to compromise the experience of watching Dredd by comparing it to some other movie along the way. Luckily I won't have to compare it to "Stallone '95" because from everything I've heard there simply is no comparison. Yay to that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 12 July, 2012, 09:28:13 PM
Blackmocco, I could frigggin' kiss ya!

What an amazing day to be a Dredd fan!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 12 July, 2012, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 12 July, 2012, 09:13:14 PM

, pint of Guinness, .


This is the important bit.

Congrats on finally seeing the movie and telling your internet chums all about it. It sounds fab! Go Dreddy!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 12 July, 2012, 09:38:22 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 12 July, 2012, 09:13:14 PMThe movie is chock full of nods to the comic. [spoiler]Chopper's very prominently displayed as is Kenny Who?[/spoiler] I'm sure there's loads more but would need to see it a bunch of times to reference everything.

I'm guessing that [spoiler]Chopper features via scrawls, rather than making a physical appearance; is that the same for Kenny Who?[/spoiler]

And yes, watching this a bunch of times will be required - not a problem!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 09:40:56 PM
Those names/symbols appeared in the old set photos.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 09:48:06 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 12 July, 2012, 08:16:45 PMShook hands with The Urban as he left as well. Told him it was fucking awesome and I'd been waiting a long time for this. He told me he'd made the movie just for me. Great guy. He must be very proud of this.

That's why Urban is best person to be Judge Dredd! What a man!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 12 July, 2012, 10:09:12 PM
I'm just off on holiday for ten days, and I may not have an Internet connection. Just wondering if you all wouldn't mind not posting anything on this thread until Monday after next, so that I don't have to trawl through hundreds of posts to catch up. No? Oh well, worth asking...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 10:15:34 PM
Life too short, this is the forum!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 July, 2012, 10:30:49 PM
Just back from work and nothing more to add other than Holy fucking shit! Great news!

I'm uncontrollably excited!  :D

September please hurry up!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 July, 2012, 10:32:55 PM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 12 July, 2012, 10:09:12 PM
I'm just off on holiday for ten days, and I may not have an Internet connection. Just wondering if you all wouldn't mind not posting anything on this thread until Monday after next, so that I don't have to trawl through hundreds of posts to catch up. No? Oh well, worth asking...

I can't promise we'll try, but we promise to try to try.

This post doesn't count.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 12 July, 2012, 10:43:43 PM
I'm just reading up on some of the news reporting mainly from those who havent a grounding in DREDD and as reported here earlier its all very positive.

http://www.craveonline.com/film/reviews/192005-comic-con-2012-review-dredd-3d (http://www.craveonline.com/film/reviews/192005-comic-con-2012-review-dredd-3d)

QuoteUrban is a modern day Clint Eastwood here.

QuoteDredd hits that perfect sweet spot of filmmakers isolating an audience and totally serving that audience. I hope sci-fi fans will appreciate this as a throwback, an homage or just damn awesome.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 12 July, 2012, 10:45:04 PM
Quote from: Stan on 12 July, 2012, 10:32:55 PMI can't promise we'll try, but we promise to try to try.

I promise not to try at all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 10:52:09 PM
DREDD runtime: 96 minutes

http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117947892?refcatid=31
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 12 July, 2012, 11:00:10 PM
It's annoying how that review constantly calls Anderson Cassandra.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 July, 2012, 11:01:34 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 12 July, 2012, 10:45:04 PM
Quote from: Stan on 12 July, 2012, 10:32:55 PMI can't promise we'll try, but we promise to try to try.

I promise not to try at all.

Yes, but you do look like Mark Hamill.

Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 10:52:09 PM
DREDD runtime: 96 minutes

http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117947892?refcatid=31

FINALLY. That actually sounds like the perfect runtime for a film like this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 12 July, 2012, 11:01:48 PM
Wow, what a day. Been great to see the twitterverse light up with postitive comments, reviews also sounding good from people who may have no following of Dredd as a character.
Blackmocco enjoyed it and gave us enough to really start to salivate.
This is all starting to point towards something amazing happening for Dredd in September for fans and newbies.
Just wondering how newbies will take to present day JD if they pick up a prog on the back of seeing the movie? I guess they'll just have to plough through Case Files, which is no bad thing :)
Talking of which, where should I post questions regarding order of stories to read? My last Trade was The Pit, and I'm wanting to be ready for Day of Chaos when it gets collected together... I suppose I've now posed that question here... doh!

Also I want some bespoke 3D glasses that have been turned into the Dredds headgear to wear to the movie, just imagine row after row of people wearing lids, that'd look much cooler than the stupid glasses :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 11:04:23 PM
Quote from: Stu101 on 12 July, 2012, 11:01:48 PM
Just wondering how newbies will take to present day JD if they pick up a prog on the back of seeing the movie? I guess they'll just have to plough through Case Files, which is no bad thing :)


Yanks'll be reading the IDW Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 12 July, 2012, 11:09:22 PM
Have to say, most people I spoke to last night had never read the comic. They had heard of it but never read it and really, their biggest exposure to Dredd was the Stallone movie. I guess the good news is they were aware the Stallone version wasn't accurate so they were curious to see a new one. Maybe the IDW stuff will change that. I'm doubtful. I believe the movie will make people curious to read the original stuff though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 12 July, 2012, 11:11:51 PM
Quote from: Stu101 on 12 July, 2012, 11:01:48 PMTalking of which, where should I post questions regarding order of stories to read? My last Trade was The Pit, and I'm wanting to be ready for Day of Chaos when it gets collected together... I suppose I've now posed that question here... doh!

This thread (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,35818.0.html) covers it pretty well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 12 July, 2012, 11:21:38 PM
Thanks Chosen Rider, nice steer. I'll be filling in any gaps I have pretty soon me thinks, should kill the agonising 8 week wait til Dredd arrives, and by the sounds of it, kicks serious butt!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 11:35:22 PM
http://screencrave.com/2012-07-12/comiccon-2012-master-web-exclusive-dredd-3d-clip-debut/

New clip on here. not available yet, but might become so in an hour or two when the Dredd Panel happens at about 00:30am
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 11:36:37 PM
It'll be available at 1am ... now that I'v actually read the page!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 11:37:44 PM
Well I make sort of poster, OKAY! I was having quiet night as two months is too long!

(http://i.imgur.com/A4NoY.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 11:40:27 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 11:36:37 PM
It'll be available at 1am ... now that I'v actually read the page!


I'll never get to bed now!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 12 July, 2012, 11:44:52 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 11:40:27 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 11:36:37 PM
It'll be available at 1am ... now that I'v actually read the page!


I'll never get to bed now!

1am ? Sheesh wondered why it wasnt on. Oh well i'll wait up. Anyone for a synthi-cafTM and MunceBun ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 July, 2012, 11:46:44 PM
I am so excited I don't know what to do! So many links to click!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 12 July, 2012, 11:47:25 PM
Gagh! I was wanting to go to bed soon.. No way am I waiting until I get to work tomorrow though..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 12 July, 2012, 11:52:00 PM
Do we know it's not going to be region locked? Cuz that could add hours on top waiting for some kind American to upload a copy to youtube.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 11:57:19 PM
good point. no idea.

The http://www.ew.com/ew/ live stream appears to be 30 mins behind schedule so we'll have something to watch when Urban and Thirlby turn up in 20 mins or so. Pretty sure Headey's not there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 July, 2012, 11:57:49 PM
Is this vid the clip that was at lfcc?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 July, 2012, 12:02:06 AM
Don't think so looking at the screen capture of it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 13 July, 2012, 12:03:54 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 10:52:09 PM
DREDD runtime: 96 minutes

http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117947892?refcatid=31

That's a great review! Nice to see Wagner and Ezquerra's name in the credits too. Both of them. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 12:07:04 AM
Only an hour to go!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 13 July, 2012, 12:08:23 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 July, 2012, 11:37:44 PM
Well I make sort of poster, OKAY! I was having quiet night as two months is too long!

(http://i.imgur.com/A4NoY.jpg?1)

Fuck me Goaty you have talent -that looks fantastic ,wouldn't mind that as a poster.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 12:10:46 AM
I know it maybe late, but here the London Film &Comic Con Dredd panel!

Three parts, you can see Commando Forces at right side!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_kfxZXcXH0&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_kfxZXcXH0&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 12:12:37 AM
Hmm. Thirlby and Urban may not be doing the EW thing after all. I know they did one a couple of hours ago for The Hollywood Reporter which isn't online yet.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/live-feed
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 July, 2012, 12:19:00 AM
Great poster Goaty!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 12:46:27 AM
If this clip is region specific I think I will cry.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 12:47:56 AM
Also, is there a live stream of the panel?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 13 July, 2012, 12:50:31 AM
So this is what watching a kettle feels like.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strangelysaucy on 13 July, 2012, 12:53:05 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 12:47:56 AM
Also, is there a live stream of the panel?

there is here http://www.ew.com/ew/package/0,,20399642,00.html, I think it may be all over tho, it had Olivia Thirlby talking to what looked like an American Graham Norton for about 2 minutes about not much really...hopefully there's some more!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 12:54:28 AM
Thirlby was on EW for 5 minutes showing plenty of thigh, and talking Dredd.

No live video of the Masters of the Web Panel that I'm aware of.

Greg Staples is there with Jock and Urban. Two Judge Dredds! (plus the the guy walking around the con in the Judge uniform does the Dredd voice for Minty).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 12:56:05 AM
I think I will remember this anticipation for a long time to come. It feels like such an important event in my life.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 13 July, 2012, 12:57:55 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 12:54:28 AM
Thirlby was on EW for 5 minutes showing plenty of thigh, and talking Dredd.

She's so hot in person, it's not even funny.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 12:59:28 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 13 July, 2012, 12:57:55 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 12:54:28 AM
Thirlby was on EW for 5 minutes showing plenty of thigh, and talking Dredd.

She's so hot in person, it's not even funny.

You shoulda seen her in the leathers on set  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 13 July, 2012, 01:01:54 AM
I've almost lost interest in the Dredd clip.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 01:02:12 AM
STILL PRIVATE!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 July, 2012, 01:02:52 AM
I'm seein' it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 01:03:52 AM
OH BABY! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g8lMmRe6Z44
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 01:04:07 AM
Oooooooh that was cooooool!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DrRocka on 13 July, 2012, 01:04:18 AM
Wow! ARSOM!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 01:04:26 AM
Karl Urban interview

http://badassdigest.com/2012/07/12/comic-con-2012-karl-urban-talks-dredd-and-abrams/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 July, 2012, 01:04:34 AM
Whoa!

Worth the wait!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 01:07:20 AM
The fat guy being shot is the best one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 01:07:48 AM
Hey! I was on set the day they shot the "are you ready" bit.. I was down the hall around the corner on the left.. Or milling around behind the camera. They left me in charge of the lawgivers that day :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 13 July, 2012, 01:09:45 AM
Was it removed? I can't seem to post it on Facebook.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 July, 2012, 01:09:55 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 01:07:48 AM
Hey! I was on set the day they shot the "are you ready" bit.. I was down the hall around the corner on the left.. Or milling around behind the camera. They left me in charge of the lawgivers that day :)

Those Lawgivers are lethal!

I love 'em!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 13 July, 2012, 01:10:27 AM
Very Nice!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 01:10:57 AM
Quote from: Stan on 13 July, 2012, 01:09:45 AM
Was it removed? I can't seem to post it on Facebook.

Maybe there is a delay as it was private?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 July, 2012, 01:13:42 AM
Anyone got a link to that interview from Comic Con please ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 13 July, 2012, 01:15:32 AM
@Michaelvk: You are involved in the movie? .... *...yeah...maybe is really time to leave slowly*...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 01:15:49 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 13 July, 2012, 01:09:55 AM

Those Lawgivers are lethal!

I love 'em!  :D

Well, it is a gun after all :)

Great to see the thing in action (though I noticed a reversed shot..).. The guys that put them together (Jason Wright, for the most part.. They really were his baby on set..) did an excellent job there..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 13 July, 2012, 01:16:21 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 01:10:57 AM
Quote from: Stan on 13 July, 2012, 01:09:45 AM
Was it removed? I can't seem to post it on Facebook.

Maybe there is a delay as it was private?

Good point. I haven't really sat at my computer and waited for an unprivating before.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 01:16:31 AM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 13 July, 2012, 01:15:32 AM
@Michaelvk: You are involved in the movie? .... *...yeah...maybe is really time to leave slowly*...

Possibly..  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 July, 2012, 01:17:47 AM
Quote from: Stan on 13 July, 2012, 01:09:45 AM
Was it removed? I can't seem to post it on Facebook.


Age restricted I think.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 13 July, 2012, 01:18:13 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 01:03:52 AM
OH BABY! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g8lMmRe6Z44

Drokk Yeah!!

Almost looks 3D in 2D!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 July, 2012, 01:19:30 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 01:15:49 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 13 July, 2012, 01:09:55 AM

Those Lawgivers are lethal!

I love 'em!  :D

Well, it is a gun after all :)

Great to see the thing in action (though I noticed a reversed shot..).. The guys that put them together (Jason Wright, for the most part.. They really were his baby on set..) did an excellent job there..


Yeah! But properly lethal!

And not a double Whammy in sight!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 July, 2012, 01:22:10 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 01:15:49 AM

(though I noticed a reversed shot..)



Yep, there's two, the close-ups.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 July, 2012, 01:22:37 AM
Quote from: Beeks on 13 July, 2012, 01:18:13 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 01:03:52 AM
OH BABY! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g8lMmRe6Z44

Drokk Yeah!!

Almost looks 3D in 2D!!

Now thats slomomagic right there!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mike Carroll on 13 July, 2012, 01:22:51 AM
Oh, that is cool!

Notice how the blood at about 45 seconds in spreads out beyond the screen borders!

Love that!

-- Mike
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 July, 2012, 01:28:15 AM
Quote from: Mike Carroll on 13 July, 2012, 01:22:51 AM
Oh, that is cool!

Notice how the blood at about 45 seconds in spreads out beyond the screen borders!

Love that!

-- Mike

I didnt notice that before that is pretty cool :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 01:31:13 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 July, 2012, 01:13:42 AM
Anyone got a link to that interview from Comic Con please ?

Which one? The Masters of the Web Panel which apparently turned into a bit of a Dredd Panel as Urban was hosting? There's no write up or video of it yet.
The Olivia Thirlby interview was live here (http://www.ew.com/ew/package/0,,20399642,00.html), and might become available on replay. I have an audio copy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 01:37:02 AM
This, people, has been an awesome day of Dredd goodness, and that clip just rounded it off nicely.. I'm off to bed now. Happy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 01:39:14 AM
It has begun..

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/thread/201630913

Now I'm outta here..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 July, 2012, 01:46:26 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 01:31:13 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 July, 2012, 01:13:42 AM
Anyone got a link to that interview from Comic Con please ?

Which one? The Masters of the Web Panel which apparently turned into a bit of a Dredd Panel as Urban was hosting? There's no write up or video of it yet.
The Olivia Thirlby interview was live here (http://www.ew.com/ew/package/0,,20399642,00.html), and might become available on replay. I have an audio copy.

Can always count on you Crave, thanks. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 13 July, 2012, 01:54:30 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 01:15:49 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 13 July, 2012, 01:09:55 AM

Those Lawgivers are lethal!

I love 'em!  :D

Well, it is a gun after all :)

Great to see the thing in action (though I noticed a reversed shot..).. The guys that put them together (Jason Wright, for the most part.. They really were his baby on set..) did an excellent job there..

It really does live up to its name. It's like a character in of itself. Any half-decent robocop needs a memorable gun.

Quote from: dweezil2 on 13 July, 2012, 01:17:47 AM
Quote from: Stan on 13 July, 2012, 01:09:45 AM
Was it removed? I can't seem to post it on Facebook.


Age restricted I think.

It links at least. I was just a bit confused because no title or thumbnail showed up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 13 July, 2012, 01:59:09 AM
I would watch this movie 100 times in a row.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 13 July, 2012, 02:13:32 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 July, 2012, 01:46:26 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 01:31:13 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 July, 2012, 01:13:42 AM
Anyone got a link to that interview from Comic Con please ?

Which one? The Masters of the Web Panel which apparently turned into a bit of a Dredd Panel as Urban was hosting? There's no write up or video of it yet.
The Olivia Thirlby interview was live here (http://www.ew.com/ew/package/0,,20399642,00.html), and might become available on replay. I have an audio copy.

Can always count on you Crave, thanks. :)

Aw I can't find it  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 13 July, 2012, 02:17:14 AM
That was Drokkin' beautiful, the colours, the movement, the round impacts and exit holes, just stunning! That last one as the blood 3D'd out the screen with the follow through of flesh was spot on. Hurry up September, I need to see this NOW!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 13 July, 2012, 02:17:34 AM
Interview was posted already (http://badassdigest.com/2012/07/12/comic-con-2012-karl-urban-talks-dredd-and-abrams/ (http://badassdigest.com/2012/07/12/comic-con-2012-karl-urban-talks-dredd-and-abrams/)) but I quite like this bit, even with the silly mistake at the start...

QuoteJohn Wagner's 2000 AD, from which the movie is adapted (hyuck hyuck), was Urban's favorite comic growing up. He said that what draws him to the character is that "He's a constant. Everyone else changes around him, but he remains. He has a lot of humanity, but it's buried deep. On the surface, he's a rock. And I love his humor. He has this wonderfully dry, laconic sense of humor. I'm glad that translated last night - the audience seemed to love it." Wagner has seen the film and loves it, and Urban says "If there was one person whose opinion I cared about, one person I wanted to impress, it was him."

OK it sounds a bit like PR guff that actors are trained to say but even so, I still like that they're going down this route of talking about the creators of the character. You don't get that with many other comic book films. And Urban's view of the character is pretty spot-on.

Also... hadn't heard this before  :o

QuoteDredd's an intense, extraordinarily action-packed film, and it seems like the shoot was grueling. A stuntman fell from a height of twelve to fifteen feet, breaking a bone that splintered through his leg. And that was the "soft story." The "hard story" is that one day while shooting in Cape Town, Urban heard a "high-pitched scream, this raspy noise" like nothing he'd ever heard before. A man, fully engulfed in flames, fled onto the set because he saw the on-set ambulance. He didn't work on the film, but he was working on a generator nearby when there was an accident. All of the crew stopped what they were doing and put out the flames and administered to the man, but he died that day at the shoot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 13 July, 2012, 02:49:03 AM
Makes the wait till the September 7th release even more excruciating.
This is just bloody awesome rolled into more awesome.
Where are all the naysayers and so called "Dreddhead" fans now who got it completely wrong.
This is a good day for proper fans who kept the faith with this movie and stood by it through thick and thin.
The missus is definately in for a surprise with this movie. She loves the violent stuff.  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 13 July, 2012, 02:58:39 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 13 July, 2012, 02:49:03 AM
She loves the violent stuff.  :)

:o  :eh: Does she?

;)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 13 July, 2012, 03:10:54 AM
I got in late, did some doodling, at 3am as a delaying tactic I thought I'd see if there are any updates on Dredd and I see that clip! I laughed out in disbelief and let out loudly a few times with a big grin: "****in' hell!"

I never thought we'd get something like that. What a way to put Dredd back on track. They didn't remake the Stallone version. They pissed all over it. Bloody hell it looks good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 13 July, 2012, 03:13:20 AM
Context  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 13 July, 2012, 04:50:28 AM
A clip for breakfast,oh Mr Dredd you're spoiling me  :P

but I don't want to see anymore,it's amazing is all I need to know....please don't show owt else because I'[m like a child,I can't control myself with goodies like this.


So drokking pummped.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 13 July, 2012, 06:12:44 AM
Mostly positive reviews, a fantastic clip released, and the web abuzz with all things Dredd, the countdown has started, it has begun; be excited, be VERY drokkin' excited, I know I am...next stop September 7th, all aboard, this is gonna be one heckuva ride!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 06:27:35 AM
Wow!!

Nice bullet fire effect!
(http://i.imgur.com/VpuQI.jpg)

Blood over the widescreen? Nice unexpected for 3D viewers!
(http://i.imgur.com/O6AuT.jpg)

High ex!!!
(http://i.imgur.com/91ytb.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 13 July, 2012, 06:37:46 AM
Bu... Wha? Gibber!

I'm stunned. Simply brilliant!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 13 July, 2012, 07:16:33 AM
Oh my.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 13 July, 2012, 07:16:42 AM
Anyone a little disappointed about the supposed 96-minute running time, or is it about right for a tight and focused Dredd movie?  I actually thought it would be closer to 106 minutes - mostly because the leaked script was about 110 pages in length - but I'm fine with it as the film is going to ROCK, so whatever!  Will say one thing though, and no-one's brought this up yet, but Dredd is exactly  the same length as the 1995 debacle, a coincidence or supreme irony...!?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 13 July, 2012, 07:30:27 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 13 July, 2012, 07:16:42 AM
Anyone a little disappointed about the supposed 96-minute running time, or is it about right for a tight and focused Dredd movie?  I actually thought it would be closer to 106 minutes - mostly because the leaked script was about 110 pages in length - but I'm fine with it as the film is going to ROCK, so whatever!  Will say one thing though, and no-one's brought this up yet, but Dredd is exactly  the same length as the 1995 debacle, a coincidence or supreme irony...!?

That's about the only thing they have in common...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 13 July, 2012, 07:31:29 AM
... and thank drokk for that!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 13 July, 2012, 07:49:13 AM
Hey blackmocco dude, as someone who's actually seen Dredd, did it feel short or about right to you?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 July, 2012, 07:51:24 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 13 July, 2012, 02:17:34 AM
Interview was posted already (http://badassdigest.com/2012/07/12/comic-con-2012-karl-urban-talks-dredd-and-abrams/ (http://badassdigest.com/2012/07/12/comic-con-2012-karl-urban-talks-dredd-and-abrams/)) but I quite like this bit, even with the silly mistake at the start...

QuoteThe "hard story" is that one day while shooting in Cape Town, Urban heard a "high-pitched scream, this raspy noise" like nothing he'd ever heard before. A man, fully engulfed in flames, fled onto the set because he saw the on-set ambulance. He didn't work on the film, but he was working on a generator nearby when there was an accident. All of the crew stopped what they were doing and put out the flames and administered to the man, but he died that day at the shoot.

I'm surprised we hadn't heard that before. That's a strange one...particularly odd this morning for me as I've been working on a number of burning people running through frames for an upcoming Dredd Zarjaz story.

That poor man. How fucking sad is that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 13 July, 2012, 08:05:01 AM
Personally I prefer action films to be shorter. There's usually no real need for films like Transformers or Spider-Man to be pushing 2 1/2 hours. It's ridiculous. In my opinion Nolan's The Dark Knight is one of the few films that earned its running time. Avengers and many, many others would have been improved with a reduced running time. A couple of the criticisms I've read of Dredd say it lags in the middle a bit so maybe it could lose another few minutes  :D

100 mins is generally the average length of films anyway. Evil Dead II is 88 minutes and that's damn near perfect.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 July, 2012, 09:19:54 AM
Yep, 96 mins is spot on for me, and it totally suits the 80s vibe they are going for.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 July, 2012, 09:23:57 AM
No excess flab, just like Dredd himself!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 13 July, 2012, 09:28:08 AM
A quick trawl through twitter and it's amusing how a lot of the reactions are stunned ones. Dredd good?!! *g*

Anyway, I echo the guy above who thanked y'all for a brilliant day here yesterday. Hand on heart, never had such a good time by, technically, myself. Thanks, all :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 09:31:12 AM
Oi! where the link gone? Sorry as look for it and found youtube link

http://youtu.be/g8lMmRe6Z44 (http://youtu.be/g8lMmRe6Z44)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 09:34:01 AM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 13 July, 2012, 06:37:46 AM

Gibber!



Whoah! I haven't seen that since when I used to read the Beano!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 13 July, 2012, 09:37:22 AM
Wow. That is fantastic. Brutal, visceral, relentless. It might be too early to say this, but I'm saying it anyway.

Dredd is going to be MASSIVE.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 13 July, 2012, 09:38:00 AM
just read the empire dredd review sounds like a good solid film cant wait a dredd right from the comic to the big screen come on sep :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 13 July, 2012, 09:40:42 AM
Sorry if this has been mentioned already, but anyone else spot that the blood and some particle effects are actually leaving the frame at points? Wondering if that's a neat trick to maximise the 3D, looks pretty cool .

The clip itself looks tremendous, like comic panels come to life. I'm so happy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 09:45:28 AM

Yep here, Keef Monkey :)

Quote from: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 06:27:35 AM

Nice bullet fire effect!
(http://i.imgur.com/VpuQI.jpg)

Blood over the widescreen? Nice unexpected for 3D viewers!
(http://i.imgur.com/O6AuT.jpg)

High ex!!!
(http://i.imgur.com/91ytb.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 09:47:48 AM
GAGH!!! Looking at those images is making me all wibbly inside..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 09:56:29 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 09:47:48 AM
GAGH!!! Looking at those images is making me all wibbly inside..

hehe! Someone in IMDB was mention of how you change ammo in the Lawgiver as voice-actitived is out of question, is it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 09:58:08 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 09:56:29 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 09:47:48 AM
GAGH!!! Looking at those images is making me all wibbly inside..

hehe! Someone in IMDB was mention of how you change ammo in the Lawgiver as voice-actitived is out of question, is it?

If you can voice activate your car's sat nab, why can't you do it 100+ years in the future on a computer controlled firearm?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 July, 2012, 09:59:14 AM
One extremely gratifying thing that came through from the reviews was that  - despite many doubts - people are really warming to Urban's Dredd as a character in a way that Stallone's Dredd-lite utterly failed leave an impression.

He's a tough sell as a character, and very tricky to get right. Sounds like they have really nailed it. Could this be the point that an American audience finally 'gets' Dredd?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 July, 2012, 10:00:54 AM
Not sure whether the blood leaving the frame is a conceit for youtube (seen it done in some viral ads) or if it's that way in the film - it might be a good way of addressing the complaint that 3D doesn't really come out, it just goes in - it's a bit gimmicky but sits well in this kind of film.

As for the gun, hope it works better than Siri... "I'm sorry Steve, but hi-ex is not available in the UK"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 10:04:15 AM
Quote from: radiator on 13 July, 2012, 09:59:14 AM

He's a tough sell as a character, and very tricky to get right. Sounds like they have really nailed it. Could this be the point that an American audience finally 'gets' Dredd?

I already spotted (I put the link up last night before I signed off..) someone asking what Dredd stories to read to brush up on the character..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 13 July, 2012, 10:06:40 AM
I've had one person on FB asking where to start too
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kudos on 13 July, 2012, 10:17:55 AM
Not sure if this has been posted up here already. I couldn't find it...

SFX have the clip of Dredd up on their site http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/07/13/dredd-hard-hitting-clip/

And they also have some panel footage from London Comic Con http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/07/13/dredd-hard-hitting-clip/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 13 July, 2012, 10:39:11 AM
I can't get over how 'gloopy' it sounds. It doesn't just look wet and messy, it sounds it too. Makes me cringe - in a good way! :)

Anyone come across a fuller write-up for the Masters of the Web panel? I've only seen pieces of info dropped out of twitter, and that interview thing above.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 July, 2012, 10:56:59 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 10:04:15 AM
Quote from: radiator on 13 July, 2012, 09:59:14 AM

He's a tough sell as a character, and very tricky to get right. Sounds like they have really nailed it. Could this be the point that an American audience finally 'gets' Dredd?

I already spotted (I put the link up last night before I signed off..) someone asking what Dredd stories to read to brush up on the character..

There have been a couple of threads about this - and I just suggested an official page might be a good idea.

Depends which era really...

Mandroid and Satans Island are good standalone ones

Brothers of the Blood

America

Terror/Total War

Mechanismo

I'd probably skip 1 and possibly 2 of the case files to start with, the retro feel may put them off. 2 would need to be read before Origins though.

Tour of Duty collections
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 11:04:47 AM
Case Files 3/4 is good start, to the Dredd, before the biggest changes of events in Case Files 5!

Ooh this thread got to 400pages? Is it awsome!


Still happy about how the Dredd went and lots of positive reactions to it! Def the sleeper hit of 2012!!!

On the day it out on 7th September, I will watch it at cinema, dont care about subtitled as watch it on IMAX at Odeon Cinema at Metro Centre! Can't wait!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 11:05:54 AM
Also I would like if the more Dredd films with scripts on their own than based on stories in Dredd, as there is two different format, comic and films... that would be great! AND NO MORE LEAK SCRIPTS!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 11:07:41 AM
Now the clip in Total Film! more positive reactions,

spread the drokk love!

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/new-gore-soaked-clip-from-dredd-watch-now (http://www.totalfilm.com/news/new-gore-soaked-clip-from-dredd-watch-now)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 13 July, 2012, 11:12:49 AM
I've got some noisy bastards in the flat above me that need judging in the same manner... :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 13 July, 2012, 11:14:53 AM
Oh and page 400!Well done Goaty!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 13 July, 2012, 11:15:18 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 11:07:41 AM

spread the drokk love!


Hey Baby, That's what I do..
  :cool:

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 13 July, 2012, 11:21:26 AM
So the fella in the clip who gets the out of frame blood splat, he's the Stallone looking guy from the trailer. Do you think the close up of Dredd with his reflection in the visor just before he gets it is intentional? A great way to say farewell to Stallone's version.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 July, 2012, 11:27:04 AM
Quote from: James on 13 July, 2012, 11:21:26 AM
So the fella in the clip who gets the out of frame blood splat, he's the Stallone looking guy from the trailer. Do you think the close up of Dredd with his reflection in the visor just before he gets it is intentional? A great way to say farewell to Stallone's version.
I mentioned this when the trailer 1st hit...but I can't find Stallone in that track suit...can anyone help?...my film-buff memory fails me - but I was sure I'd seen that tracksuit on him in a film...and yes, I think that's exactly why they are dispatching with him this way.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 July, 2012, 11:37:21 AM
...I'm only turning up similar tracksuit images for 'Sue Sylvester'...from a show called Glee...I thought maybe from a Rocky film...maybe Death Race?? :eh:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 July, 2012, 11:38:10 AM
Quote from: James on 13 July, 2012, 11:21:26 AM
So the fella in the clip who gets the out of frame blood splat, he's the Stallone looking guy from the trailer. Do you think the close up of Dredd with his reflection in the visor just before he gets it is intentional? A great way to say farewell to Stallone's version.

I believe that Stallone thing is coincidence, (I think it was CF) asked Alex Garland about it, and he said it wasn't intentional.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 13 July, 2012, 11:40:18 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 July, 2012, 10:56:59 AM
I'd probably skip 1 and possibly 2 of the case files to start with, the retro feel may put them off. 2 would need to be read before Origins though.

I've been handing out a few Origins and the one person who read exclaimed...

This Judge Dredd stuff isn't halfway bad... :/
Couldn't put it down in the end. Now I want to know more... moar I say! >:[


I think it's a good book to take advantage of in this respect because Dredd hasn't gone through a zillion reboots or whatever, unlike other comic characters.

And funnily enough I just bought my second Case Files in as many days. I might pass them some of my Titans if I'm feeling uber-generous.

Quote from: chuffsteruk on 13 July, 2012, 11:12:49 AM
I've got some noisy bastards in the flat above me that need judging in the same manner... :lol:

Same with the 'slo-mo heads' downstairs. I need Michael to build me a weapon before I suffocate with all the smoke.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 July, 2012, 11:41:47 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 July, 2012, 11:38:10 AM
Quote from: James on 13 July, 2012, 11:21:26 AM
So the fella in the clip who gets the out of frame blood splat, he's the Stallone looking guy from the trailer. Do you think the close up of Dredd with his reflection in the visor just before he gets it is intentional? A great way to say farewell to Stallone's version.

I believe that Stallone thing is coincidence, (I think it was CF) asked Alex Garland about it, and he said it wasn't intentional.

That puts that to rest then...so very bullet in cheek.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 13 July, 2012, 11:55:11 AM
Douglas Wolk suggests Casefiles 5 for noobs, and while it's not my favourite (that'd be 7), I'm inclined to agree with him.  It's far enough back to feel like deep history without being archaic in the way much of Casefiles 1 and 2 can be, and it's critical for everything that happens subsequently - it also has several longer stories, all of them good, rather than squntillions of variable-quality shorts, which may be an easier transition for the uninitiated.  Follow that up with America and maybe The Pit I think your average reader will know whether they want 'in' or not. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 12:02:38 PM
Went well at AICN

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/56979 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/56979)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 12:10:20 PM
That EW Olivia Thirlby Interview from yesterday can be seen here:

http://oliviathirlbyfan.com/archives/285
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 13 July, 2012, 12:13:50 PM
 :o Just clocked this new clip! bloody ell' (excuse the pun)...amazing! A cinema first in these type of visual effects?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 12:02:38 PM
Went well at AICN

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/56979 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/56979)

Can't help not like some of those trolls though..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 13 July, 2012, 12:21:55 PM
I generally recommend America to people who want to dip in, but I know it's not really a typical Dredd story so not very representative, it does sum up the world pretty well though.

I'm actually inclined to say Total War, my girlfriend leafed through a prog when that was running and ended up gripped by it throughout, and that was with no previous Dredd experience. It's a great story, and I don't recall it being too heavy on required previous knowledge?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 July, 2012, 12:28:37 PM
Yeah America is a solid recommend. For one it has very impressive artwork - newcomers are easily put off by bad or badly presented art (as in the case of The Pit, sadly).

It's also the closest thing Dredd has to 'Marvels'. It was one of the very first Dredd stories I ever read, and it made a huge impression on me - it really does demonstrate how Dredd can be so much more than a one-note joke strip.

Rebellion are very wise to reprint it in advance of the new film coming out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 13 July, 2012, 12:36:48 PM
Thanks, Crave. Olivia's lovely but the interviewer? Wee bit too much Red Bull.

Forum girl, karlurbaninternational, has gathered quite a bit of stuff on her website - http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/f10/articles-amp-interviews/

........ I found pics I hadn't seen before and more. The latest is at the bottom, scroll down, lots of SDCC stuff. Don't know Spanish but I'm guessing that yellow list is the most recent additions list.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 July, 2012, 12:40:56 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 12:10:20 PM
That EW Olivia Thirlby Interview from yesterday can be seen here:

http://oliviathirlbyfan.com/archives/285


Great little interview, thanks for the link!   ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 13 July, 2012, 12:49:17 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 13 July, 2012, 12:36:48 PM
Thanks, Crave. Olivia's lovely but the interviewer? Wee bit too much Red Bull.

Forum girl, karlurbaninternational, has gathered quite a bit of stuff on her website - http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/f10/articles-amp-interviews/

........ I found pics I hadn't seen before and more. The latest is at the bottom, scroll down, lots of SDCC stuff. Don't know Spanish but I'm guessing that yellow list is the most recent additions list.

Is it wrong that I sniggered at the Spanish for `contact us`?Conectarse...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 13 July, 2012, 12:53:51 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 13 July, 2012, 12:49:17 PM
Is it wrong that I sniggered at the Spanish for `contact us`?Conectarse...

*g* Did not notice that. Heh :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 13 July, 2012, 01:18:41 PM
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x353/Armand32b/sdcc2012thursday/3bcb8702cc8311e1be6a12313820455d_7.jpg)

When Dredds collide!

Shouldn't something like this cause a singularity in the  spacetime continuum?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 13 July, 2012, 02:11:30 PM
Love the fact that Jock seems to be quietly anticipating a punch up, so is backing slowly away! :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 July, 2012, 02:21:06 PM
I did suggest to Greg they should have a gurn-off...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 13 July, 2012, 02:50:55 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 02:58:09 PM
Greg gets face time on this article for the trailer!
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/the-trailer-for-dredd-with-karl-urban-and-lena-headey-comes-out-guns-blazing
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 July, 2012, 02:59:50 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 13 July, 2012, 12:49:17 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 13 July, 2012, 12:36:48 PM
Thanks, Crave. Olivia's lovely but the interviewer? Wee bit too much Red Bull.

Forum girl, karlurbaninternational, has gathered quite a bit of stuff on her website - http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/f10/articles-amp-interviews/

........ I found pics I hadn't seen before and more. The latest is at the bottom, scroll down, lots of SDCC stuff. Don't know Spanish but I'm guessing that yellow list is the most recent additions list.

Is it wrong that I sniggered at the Spanish for `contact us`?Conectarse...
:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 13 July, 2012, 03:21:43 PM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 13 July, 2012, 07:49:13 AM
Hey blackmocco dude, as someone who's actually seen Dredd, did it feel short or about right to you?

C'mon Beaky. Now you're just looking for things to worry about. Haha!

It's exactly right. Tight and lean. No danger of it overstaying its welcome. I tend to judge how much I've enjoyed a movie by how the very last shot leaves me feeling. Trust me: Last shot's going to have you all ripped up and ready for more. I was roaring at the top of my lungs!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 July, 2012, 03:24:35 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 02:58:09 PM
Greg gets face time on this article for the trailer!
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/the-trailer-for-dredd-with-karl-urban-and-lena-headey-comes-out-guns-blazing


Hnggghh.... not again...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 13 July, 2012, 03:27:59 PM
More positive State side buzz, excellent.  Keep the hype up and we are hopefully onto a winner :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 03:28:23 PM
The new clip has lady chesticle nudity. You can see her pink nip-nop. I thought I should warn you all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 03:47:04 PM
New clip?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 03:49:42 PM

Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 03:47:04 PM
New clip?

Yep!
http://youtu.be/g8lMmRe6Z44 (http://youtu.be/g8lMmRe6Z44)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 03:50:30 PM
Oh I saw that one, thought there was another.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 July, 2012, 04:53:54 PM
Greg Staples has just posted about an interview he's done for Dredd - so keep an eye out for that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 13 July, 2012, 05:00:18 PM
I was too busy watching the splatter to even notice the boobage. I suppose that makes me a sad geek or something.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 05:04:14 PM
The off screen splatter one is bloody badass. His whole cheek explodes!

P.s just noticed the boob now I was looking for it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 13 July, 2012, 05:16:07 PM
I feel exploding boobs would be beyond what's exceptable in onscreen ultra violence!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 05:17:54 PM
Karl Urban interview at AICN
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/56985
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 05:19:24 PM
nevermind. It's nothing! :) very very very short.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 05:21:19 PM
For you, sad boobie geeks!

(http://i.imgur.com/h68nt.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 13 July, 2012, 05:25:02 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 05:17:54 PM
Karl Urban interview at AICN
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/56985

I like any interview that begins with "The day after I saw Karl Urban kick unholy ass in the euphorically violent DREDD..."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 05:37:59 PM
Ooooh! Boobie!  : :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: auxlen on 13 July, 2012, 05:42:00 PM
mrs auxlen clapped when the offscreen splatter occurred. she's very psyched.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 13 July, 2012, 05:43:06 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 13 July, 2012, 05:16:07 PM
I feel exploding boobs would be beyond what's exceptable in onscreen ultra violence!

Having recently watched Crank 2, I know that not to be the case...  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 13 July, 2012, 05:55:41 PM
We don't get out much, do we...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 13 July, 2012, 06:02:10 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 13 July, 2012, 05:55:41 PM
We don't get out much, do we...?

My thoughts exactly  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 06:18:59 PM
Couple of things I am wondering about the new clip.

How come it looks like with each burst he is firing several rounds, but the impact on people is only one bullet.

And why does Dredd shoot people in the face so much. The described footage of the hotshot was a face shot as well.

Also, did he select Hi-Ex or something, because when it goes back into normal speed it looks like it says it on his gun.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 13 July, 2012, 06:20:51 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 06:18:59 PMHow come it looks like with each burst he is firing several rounds, but the impact on people is only one bullet.

That's what I was wondering. Plothole!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 06:22:12 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 06:18:59 PM
Couple of things I am wondering about the new clip.

How come it looks like with each burst he is firing several rounds, but the impact on people is only one bullet.

And why does Dredd shoot people in the face so much. The described footage of the hotshot was a face shot as well.

Also, did he select Hi-Ex or something, because when it goes back into normal speed it looks like it says it on his gun.

Cos it not one scene, it looks like it pick many scenes into one clip,

And it's slo mo effect with very slow bullet flying!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 13 July, 2012, 06:29:50 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 06:18:59 PM
Couple of things I am wondering about the new clip.

How come it looks like with each burst he is firing several rounds, but the impact on people is only one bullet.

And why does Dredd shoot people in the face so much. The described footage of the hotshot was a face shot as well.

Also, did he select Hi-Ex or something, because when it goes back into normal speed it looks like it says it on his gun.

This clip is a bunch of scenes from throughout the movie...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 06:31:24 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 13 July, 2012, 06:29:50 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 06:18:59 PM
Couple of things I am wondering about the new clip.

How come it looks like with each burst he is firing several rounds, but the impact on people is only one bullet.

And why does Dredd shoot people in the face so much. The described footage of the hotshot was a face shot as well.

Also, did he select Hi-Ex or something, because when it goes back into normal speed it looks like it says it on his gun.

This clip is a bunch of scenes from throughout the movie...

Gagh.. You beat me to it..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 13 July, 2012, 06:32:03 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 06:18:59 PM
Couple of things I am wondering about the new clip.

How come it looks like with each burst he is firing several rounds, but the impact on people is only one bullet.

And why does Dredd shoot people in the face so much. The described footage of the hotshot was a face shot as well.

Also, did he select Hi-Ex or something, because when it goes back into normal speed it looks like it says it on his gun.

I'm assuming that it's cut in a certain way..the Stallone alike gets taken out with a single bullet..I'm assuming that the tattoo guy and fatty are too and that the bursts are concentrated on the other perps..like the guy at the end in real time
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 06:34:05 PM
I see, I thought it was just one scene, maybe cut down a little.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 July, 2012, 06:35:23 PM
I guess that explains any flopped shots as well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 06:46:54 PM
Urban Video Interview
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=92520
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 13 July, 2012, 07:12:02 PM
Thanks, Crave, you're a wonderful fount :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 July, 2012, 07:24:54 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 06:46:54 PM
Urban Video Interview
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=92520

Solid interview with the main man. Thanks for the share Crave
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 July, 2012, 07:30:16 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 July, 2012, 06:35:23 PM
I guess that explains any flopped shots as well.




and the eyeline, continuity and geography not matching.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 July, 2012, 07:40:35 PM
Olivia Thirlby Interview here

http://oliviathirlbyfan.com/archives/285 (http://oliviathirlbyfan.com/archives/285)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 13 July, 2012, 07:50:27 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 July, 2012, 07:40:35 PM
Olivia Thirlby Interview here

http://oliviathirlbyfan.com/archives/285 (http://oliviathirlbyfan.com/archives/285)

Fuck, that interviewer's annoying...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 13 July, 2012, 07:55:47 PM
That interview had a weird early 90s feel to it  :-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 July, 2012, 08:17:51 PM
Like



(http://dangerousminds.net/images/uploads/word_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Emp on 13 July, 2012, 08:19:23 PM
ARRGHHH!!!...take it away,take it away!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 13 July, 2012, 08:30:31 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 06:46:54 PM
Urban Video Interview
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=92520

So That Pete Travis Question was avoided. Hopefully everything's OK on that front.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 08:30:43 PM
Mr Soap! You gone too far!!! Not that, not the Word!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 July, 2012, 08:38:52 PM
Quote from: Emp on 13 July, 2012, 08:19:23 PM
ARRGHHH!!!...take it away,take it away!!



I wish it would come back. The pedestrian Graham Norton is about as adventurous as entertainment telly gets these days.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 08:53:51 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 July, 2012, 08:17:51 PM
Like



(http://dangerousminds.net/images/uploads/word_1.jpg)

Looks like a tv test card..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 08:53:51 PM


Looks like a tv test card..

Just trust me, don't check any clips online about The Word, ever!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 13 July, 2012, 09:05:49 PM
I haven't read the script but personally I think it would be a bit of a shame if there's as little actual sci-fi in the movie as there is in the trailer. Obviously, there are sci-fi embelishments such as psychic powers and futuristic drugs (though not that much wierder than the effects of actual Hallucinogens), and much has been contemporised for budget reasons, though if the story is basically about getting into, or out of, a building for law enforcement purposes a la The Raid (haven't seen it) using weaponry, is there actually much left to make it different from a crime based action movie?

One of the things I like about sci-fi is its power to make you think, or take a present issue to its logical conclusion. Interestingly, the trailer sets up the tower block story rather than the justice system setting, while the first film's story does at least attempt to cover a lot of themes (cloning, political corruption, the role of justice) and has a story in which the setting couldn't be seen as just window-dressing. It reminds me a bit of X-Files II, in which little paranormal actually happened, perhaps in order to reach outside of the fan audience, actually confused everyone. I'm looking forward to it, though if it's a hit I might just look forward to a more epic Origins-style sequel more.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 13 July, 2012, 09:24:07 PM
While I thought the slo-mo affect in those shots looked very good, (and it should be noted it's not just slow motion) I do hope they use it sparingly. I.e. little bits here and there. If they have long drawn out sequences in every action scene I can see that getting old quick.

I don't say that to be negative. I'm very hyped for the film, honestly! Just voicing a concern.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 09:28:06 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 13 July, 2012, 09:24:07 PM
While I thought the slo-mo affect in those shots looked very good, (and it should be noted it's not just slow motion) I do hope they use it sparingly. I.e. little bits here and there. If they have long drawn out sequences in every action scene I can see that getting old quick.

I don't say that to be negative. I'm very hyped for the film, honestly! Just voicing a concern.

Honest in my view, I think the Slo-Mo affect happens when someone in the Slo-Mo drug.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 13 July, 2012, 09:36:18 PM
If ever I had any doubt about the Dredd film, Which I don't think I ever did, after the last few weeks all negative had been dissolved.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 09:46:13 PM
Ooh 2000AD tweet this;

What an amazing panel - Karl Urban and Olivia Thirlby rock!! Photos soon, Earthlets.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 13 July, 2012, 09:55:55 PM
One or two reviews have said the slo-mo is well spaced out, I'm sure Mr Mocco can say yay or nay to that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 July, 2012, 10:00:32 PM
From what I recall of my browse through the script, it's reigned back on in the middle.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 10:02:35 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 July, 2012, 10:00:32 PM
From what I recall of my browse through the script, it's reigned back on in the middle.

Cheers for spoiler!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Emp on 13 July, 2012, 10:05:51 PM
Its not even out and I have found a negative review...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCJjTsB8epI...was most impressed withthe mention of Judge Whitey ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Emp on 13 July, 2012, 10:07:32 PM
Oh and the not knowing who Rowdy Yates is is a nice touch.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 13 July, 2012, 10:10:04 PM
It's a bit weird having been the only one here who's seen the fucking thing. haha!

No spoilers, I promise but it's safe to say the Slo-Mo stuff is used quite sparingly and as a result, when it kicks in it's extremely effective. This isn't some Zack Snyder Watchmen fucking asshole bullshit where the movie would be half the length if it all ran at normal speed. It's always from the perspective of someone who's just taken the drug and as you can imagine, if they're showing us it means Dredd usually ain't too far away.

They've really gone to town with marketing the whole slow-motion footage so it's easy for people to think this is going to be the whole spine of the movie but rest easy. They know what they're doing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 13 July, 2012, 10:14:08 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 13 July, 2012, 10:10:04 PM
It's a bit weird having been the only one here who's seen the fucking thing. haha!

No spoilers, I promise but it's safe to say the Slo-Mo stuff is used quite sparingly and as a result, when it kicks in it's extremely effective. This isn't some Zack Snyder Watchmen fucking asshole bullshit where the movie would be half the length if it all ran at normal speed. It's always from the perspective of someone who's just taken the drug and as you can imagine, if they're showing us it means Dredd usually ain't too far away.

They've really gone to town with marketing the whole slow-motion footage so it's easy for people to think this is going to be the whole spine of the movie but rest easy. They know what they're doing.

Your new title is 'official forum bullshit quasher'  :lol:

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 13 July, 2012, 10:15:50 PM
Quote from: Emp on 13 July, 2012, 10:05:51 PM
Its not even out and I have found a negative review...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCJjTsB8epI...was most impressed withthe mention of Judge Whitey ::)


Here's one to balance it out  :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyOaKY-gvBw&feature=related
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 13 July, 2012, 10:16:50 PM
Thanks Blackmocco. Good to know.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 July, 2012, 10:21:06 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 10:02:35 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 July, 2012, 10:00:32 PM
From what I recall of my browse through the script, it's reigned back on in the middle.

Cheers for spoiler!

I thought it was vague enough... but there you go.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Emp on 13 July, 2012, 10:23:23 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 13 July, 2012, 10:15:50 PM
Quote from: Emp on 13 July, 2012, 10:05:51 PM
Its not even out and I have found a negative review...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCJjTsB8epI...was most impressed withthe mention of Judge Whitey ::)


Here's one to balance it out  :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyOaKY-gvBw&feature=related

I don't know if the views of a slackjawed teen who shouldn't get into see it count :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 July, 2012, 10:24:30 PM
Quote from: Emp on 13 July, 2012, 10:05:51 PM
Its not even out and I have found a negative review...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCJjTsB8epI...was most impressed withthe mention of Judge Whitey ::)


He needs to leave the house more.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Emp on 13 July, 2012, 10:29:32 PM
Heres a more well informed review...honest :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snn7E0bfwC0&feature=related
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 13 July, 2012, 10:31:49 PM
I'm not sure the whole implication of you brain perceiving everything at 1/100th the normal speed... Presumably, rather than being slow to respond, they will see Dredd entering the room in slow motion and be able to respond 100 times faster than normal.

That means in such gunfights we have to believe Dredd is over 100 times faster than anyone else, or it provides a scenario where Dredd has to find creative ways to out-gun them (which would be preferable as a movie concept).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 July, 2012, 10:34:22 PM
Presumably thought-processes are slower.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 July, 2012, 10:35:01 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 July, 2012, 10:24:30 PM
Quote from: Emp on 13 July, 2012, 10:05:51 PM
Its not even out and I have found a negative review...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCJjTsB8epI...was most impressed withthe mention of Judge Whitey ::)


He needs to leave the house more.

Turn the subtitles on... makes more sense.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 13 July, 2012, 10:35:14 PM
No. Just because you can perceive things faster doesn't mean that your able to move muscles faster. It doesn't alter physics just the mind.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Emp on 13 July, 2012, 10:35:20 PM
your overthinking it..hollywood does not like people thinking!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 10:36:47 PM
Yeah but it's British / South African production. :)





Is it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 13 July, 2012, 10:38:01 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 July, 2012, 10:24:30 PM
Quote from: Emp on 13 July, 2012, 10:05:51 PM
Its not even out and I have found a negative review...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCJjTsB8epI...was most impressed withthe mention of Judge Whitey ::)


He needs to leave the house more.

Saw These Reviews a couple weeks ago. And yes he Does sound 'Twattish'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 10:38:16 PM
Quote from: Emp on 13 July, 2012, 10:05:51 PM
Its not even out and I have found a negative review...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCJjTsB8epI...was most impressed withthe mention of Judge Whitey ::)

I couldn't make it half way through.
If you don't know what you're talking about maybe your opinion isn't worth sharing.
This is why fans' opinions are not to be trusted...

Except mine. I'm always right about every aspect of everything.

These were handed out at comic-con, and are popping up on US ebay. Sellers say they're full-size at 3"x2", though I think the film badge is more like four and a quarter by just over three inches.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Emp on 13 July, 2012, 10:38:38 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 13 July, 2012, 10:35:14 PM
No. Just because you can perceive things faster doesn't mean that your able to move muscles faster. It doesn't alter physics just the mind.

which is going to watch that bullet sail at your face even more frightening.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 13 July, 2012, 10:41:11 PM
Last week i spent two days off my face on diazepam and tramadol, which had a similar effect on me as 'slow-mo' does in the dredd movie. I did not find myself able to react faster than usual, and instead spent a lot of time sitting down and staring into the middle-distance, and dribbling.

However, like adrian, everytime i think about this- especially after seeing the clip- it refuses to make sense, no matter how many times it's explained.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 10:42:50 PM
SBT - it's fiction film... it for you to enjoyment at cinema?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 13 July, 2012, 10:48:56 PM
Nice merchandise from the film Mr Noir.  What are the orange dots?  ... slow no pills?   :-*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 10:53:33 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 13 July, 2012, 10:48:56 PM
Nice merchandise from the film Mr Noir.  What are the orange dots?  ... slow no pills?   :-*

I think they are pins to the Dredd badge. it's one single sheet not two.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 July, 2012, 10:54:09 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 10:38:16 PM
Quote from: Emp on 13 July, 2012, 10:05:51 PM
Its not even out and I have found a negative review...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCJjTsB8epI...was most impressed withthe mention of Judge Whitey ::)

I couldn't make it half way through.
If you don't know what you're talking about maybe your opinion isn't worth sharing.
This is why fans' opinions are not to be trusted...

Except mine. I'm always right about every aspect of everything.

These were handed out at comic-con, and are popping up on US ebay. Sellers say they're full-size at 3"x2", though I think the film badge is more like four and a quarter by just over three inches.

I think CF will be chomping at the bit to get his hands on those. They look really nice to me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 13 July, 2012, 11:00:12 PM
Quote from: Adrian Bamforth on 13 July, 2012, 10:31:49 PM
I'm not sure the whole implication of you brain perceiving everything at 1/100th the normal speed... Presumably, rather than being slow to respond, they will see Dredd entering the room in slow motion and be able to respond 100 times faster than normal.

That means in such gunfights we have to believe Dredd is over 100 times faster than anyone else, or it provides a scenario where Dredd has to find creative ways to out-gun them (which would be preferable as a movie concept).

I don't know where the confusion is. Pop a handful of Vicodin and see how fast you'd respond to an A-list riot cop bursting into your bedroom unannounced.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 13 July, 2012, 11:00:43 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 13 July, 2012, 10:41:11 PM
i think about this- especially after seeing the clip- it refuses to make sense, no matter how many times it's explained.

Its proper paradoxical.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 13 July, 2012, 11:07:49 PM
The badge is there to keep the orange dots in place.

Karl Urban Doesn't 'Give A Damn' About Stallone's Thoughts On 'Dredd' who the fuck does!?
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2012/07/13/karl-urban-doesnt-give-a-damn-about-stallones-thoughts-on-dredd/

The video's not viewable outside the US... in theory.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 13 July, 2012, 11:26:27 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 13 July, 2012, 10:10:04 PM
It's a bit weird having been the only one here who's seen the fucking thing. haha!

No spoilers, I promise but it's safe to say the Slo-Mo stuff is used quite sparingly and as a result, when it kicks in it's extremely effective. This isn't some Zack Snyder Watchmen fucking asshole bullshit where the movie would be half the length if it all ran at normal speed. It's always from the perspective of someone who's just taken the drug and as you can imagine, if they're showing us it means Dredd usually ain't too far away.

They've really gone to town with marketing the whole slow-motion footage so it's easy for people to think this is going to be the whole spine of the movie but rest easy. They know what they're doing.

Thanks. That's the one thing that concerned me a bit. I'm sure it works great in small doses but the best part of the clip is where things speed up and he lets loose with the Lawgiver.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 July, 2012, 11:27:24 PM
Wonder why they persist with this regional lockout - I can understand it for premium content, but for EPK type stuff, and something that is easily circumvented it's a bit weird.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 14 July, 2012, 12:37:03 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 10:36:47 PM
Yeah but it's British / South African production. :)





Is it?

British merely expl.. using colonial labour..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 14 July, 2012, 12:38:45 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 13 July, 2012, 11:00:12 PM
I don't know where the confusion is. Pop a handful of Vicodin and see how fast you'd respond to an A-list riot cop bursting into your bedroom unannounced.

Is it Friday already???
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 14 July, 2012, 12:48:42 AM
Karl Urban - SDCC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQk2qa6iM1Q&feature=channel&list=UL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQk2qa6iM1Q&feature=channel&list=UL)

Karl Urban - Olivia Thirlby signing posters (small clip)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU5BcvN6v0k&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU5BcvN6v0k&feature=relmfu)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 14 July, 2012, 01:18:36 AM
From 2009, what Karl Urban thinks of that other "actor" in Judge Dredd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iviSf6G2lJs&t=19m55s
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 14 July, 2012, 01:45:28 AM
Is there some in-joke I'm missing? The codpieces were silver.

SILVER!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 14 July, 2012, 01:47:00 AM
Has anyone seen this? (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?action=post;topic=34200.6090;last_msg=692943)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 14 July, 2012, 01:49:15 AM
Quote from: pops1983 on 14 July, 2012, 01:47:00 AM
Has anyone seen this? (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?action=post;topic=34200.6090;last_msg=692943)

seen what??
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 14 July, 2012, 01:50:38 AM
 ::) http://io9.com/5925970/watch-judge-dredd-busts-a-mega+city-one-drug-den-in-the-first-dredd-clip?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow (http://io9.com/5925970/watch-judge-dredd-busts-a-mega+city-one-drug-den-in-the-first-dredd-clip?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 14 July, 2012, 01:51:29 AM
Quote from: pops1983 on 14 July, 2012, 01:50:38 AM
::) http://io9.com/5925970/watch-judge-dredd-busts-a-mega+city-one-drug-den-in-the-first-dredd-clip?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow (http://io9.com/5925970/watch-judge-dredd-busts-a-mega+city-one-drug-den-in-the-first-dredd-clip?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)

yep
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 14 July, 2012, 03:10:55 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 13 July, 2012, 03:21:43 PM
C'mon Beaky. Now you're just looking for things to worry about. Haha!
It's exactly right. Tight and lean. No danger of it overstaying its welcome. I tend to judge how much I've enjoyed a movie by how the very last shot leaves me feeling. Trust me: Last shot's going to have you all ripped up and ready for more. I was roaring at the top of my lungs!

Good enough for me, words from the master, :thumbsup: dude...

Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 14 July, 2012, 12:48:42 AM
Karl Urban - Olivia Thirlby signing posters (small clip)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU5BcvN6v0k&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU5BcvN6v0k&feature=relmfu)

Man, could Olivia Thirlby get any sweeter, she's one classy lady, and no mistake...


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 14 July, 2012, 03:14:45 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 13 July, 2012, 10:41:11 PM
Last week i spent two days off my face on diazepam and tramadol, which had a similar effect on me as 'slow-mo' does in the dredd movie. I did not find myself able to react faster than usual, and instead spent a lot of time sitting down and staring into the middle-distance, and dribbling.
SBT

:lol:, brilliant, you were like Bobby Hill, "the milk in the fridge is about to go off... and there it goes".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 14 July, 2012, 04:25:13 AM
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/8041/original/Karl%20Urban%2001.jpg?1342171478)

Urban stuck this sticker across his jaw when asked questions about Star Trek2 of which he purportedly let slip a plot spoiler.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 14 July, 2012, 05:12:03 AM
Regarding slo-mo effects: It makes user feel good, and looks cool when people are shooting you. Detail after that is unnecessary.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 14 July, 2012, 09:11:30 AM
MTV Interview - Karl Urban and Olivia Thirlby (she looketh hot!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs8wzxFAxVs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs8wzxFAxVs)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 14 July, 2012, 10:52:44 AM
This link is worth passing along; good introduction to Case Files 5 as a starting point for Dredd.

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/06/25/judge-dredd-apocalypse-war-preview-complete-case-files-05/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 14 July, 2012, 11:03:50 AM
Karl, Jock, Greg on Masters of the Web panel -

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/cQk2qa6iM1Q" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Durendal on 14 July, 2012, 11:53:59 AM
Quote from: Emp on 13 July, 2012, 10:05:51 PM
Its not even out and I have found a negative review...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCJjTsB8epI...was most impressed withthe mention of Judge Whitey ::)
Youtube video bloggers are not even failed journalists and should not be given any attention, just like reply girl boobcams and the people who film themselves opening a variety of things. When I am president of the universe people with personality disorders will be forbidden from owning cameras and it will be illegal for under 21s to purchase microphone headsets.

I'm pleasantly surprised by the reviews so far, even the unflattering ones are positive, and have convinced me to watch this in 3D when it's released. Haven't watched a 3D movie since Krull in the 80's
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 14 July, 2012, 12:42:12 PM
Krull was released in 3D?!?  Noooooo....!   I missed it! I did not know that!  I only ever saw the 2D version in the cinema.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 14 July, 2012, 12:48:00 PM
I LOVE the respect Karl Urban is giving John Wagner. In just about every interview I've seen he says as long as Wagner was happy, he was too. Roll on Sept 7th!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 14 July, 2012, 01:02:44 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 14 July, 2012, 12:42:12 PM
Krull was released in 3D?!?  Noooooo....!   I missed it! I did not know that!  I only ever saw the 2D version in the cinema.

That was my reaction too! I remember seeing it at the pictures too. That was a loooong time ago.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 14 July, 2012, 01:09:36 PM
Quote from: Adrian Bamforth on 13 July, 2012, 10:31:49 PM
I'm not sure the whole implication of you brain perceiving everything at 1/100th the normal speed... Presumably, rather than being slow to respond, they will see Dredd entering the room in slow motion and be able to respond 100 times faster than normal.

That means in such gunfights we have to believe Dredd is over 100 times faster than anyone else, or it provides a scenario where Dredd has to find creative ways to out-gun them (which would be preferable as a movie concept).

I don't see any conflict here. The drug slows down your perception, it does not speed up your thoughts, your reaction time or enhance your physical capabilities in anyway. They are two completely separate things. You're talking as if a human being is a machine, and this is a simple equation. It's far from it. There are plenty of drugs out there already that enhance perception in various ways, they do not enhance the user's ability to act on what they perceive in any way.

Just to give a personal example (not drug related as such - although I'm sure it must have involved some kind of chemical change in the brain itself) on one particular occasion I genuinely though I was going to die. I was involved in a head-on vehicle collision at high speed (I was not driving, BTW). In those 2 or 3 seconds in which I realised we were going to hit the oncoming vehicle, my perception was slows. I was quite genuinely seeing everything in slow motion for these 2-3 seconds. Did it enhance my ability to react or actually do anything about it? Did it hell. If anything I was frozen to the spot in horror and in fact it actually felt like I was thinking in slow motion too. "Oh shit - we're dead" was all the thinking I had time for.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 14 July, 2012, 01:43:43 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 14 July, 2012, 01:09:36 PMI was involved in a head-on vehicle collision at high speed (I was not driving, BTW). In those 2 or 3 seconds in which I realised we were going to hit the oncoming vehicle, my perception was slows. I was quite genuinely seeing everything in slow motion for these 2-3 seconds. Did it enhance my ability to react or actually do anything about it? Did it hell. If anything I was frozen to the spot in horror and in fact it actually felt like I was thinking in slow motion too. "Oh shit - we're dead" was all the thinking I had time for.

I was just about to report a near-identical car-crash experience!  The whole event slowed to a crawl, and I can still recall tiny almost-frozen details from what must have been a second or two.  Needless to say I (as a passenger) certainly didn't seem to have any increased ability to react.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 14 July, 2012, 01:45:23 PM
I experienced something similar to Mark Taylor. Time slowed, I felt and saw as if in slow motion, and for me sound also vanished as well as vision going black and white. And I couldn't do anything but be a passenger in my body. Bizarre thing, our brain.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 14 July, 2012, 01:46:55 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 14 July, 2012, 01:43:43 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 14 July, 2012, 01:09:36 PMI was involved in a head-on vehicle collision at high speed (I was not driving, BTW). In those 2 or 3 seconds in which I realised we were going to hit the oncoming vehicle, my perception was slows. I was quite genuinely seeing everything in slow motion for these 2-3 seconds. Did it enhance my ability to react or actually do anything about it? Did it hell. If anything I was frozen to the spot in horror and in fact it actually felt like I was thinking in slow motion too. "Oh shit - we're dead" was all the thinking I had time for.

I was just about to report a near-identical car-crash experience!  The whole event slowed to a crawl, and I can still recall tiny almost-frozen details from what must have been a second or two.  Needless to say I (as a passenger) certainly didn't seem to have any increased ability to react.

Yep, same here when I was doing about 20mph on a pushbike, and a car cut across my path.  I had what felt like a massive amount of time to think 'There's no way I'm going to avoid this.  I'm going to hit it hard.  I hope I live', when in fact it was a split second.  Although I thought all that, there was no time for any physical movement or action.  I went into the side of the car, my bike flipped me up, my knees went through the passenger windows and I carried on sailing over the roof, breaking my fall with my head.  Happy days!

So yeah, I totally get the whole slo-mo thing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 14 July, 2012, 01:47:56 PM
...Some more thoughts on the above. OK I'm not a cognitive psychologist (though I know folks with expertise in the field, so I might have the opportunity to discuss it at some point) but I'd have thought that if the brain is anything like a machine then it's more like a multitasking computer system than a mechanical device. With a mechanical device if one thing goes faster, everything goes faster. So, if the brain was a simple clockwork machine then yes, in order to perceive things in slow motion the whole mechanism would have to run faster, and your reactions would also be speeded up. With a multitasking computer system, on the other hand, if one process runs faster than other processes have to slow down to compensate. The system has a limited capacity which has to be shared out between different processes. Now whilst I do think the brain is probably a bit more flexible than that, it still has to have it's limits. In order for you to perceive everything in slow motion, your brain actually has to be recording perceptions at a much faster rate than normal. Because your brain is forced (by the drug) into concentrating on this particular task, the likelyhood is in fact, that your performence in all other tasks (including reactions, etc.) will suffer as a result. My expectation would be as a result of Slo-Mo you'd actually be less able to react to something like Dredd appearing and trying to shoot your face off than if you were straight.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 14 July, 2012, 01:58:31 PM
Sounds like good reasoning, that. Like after you eat, more blood goes to the tummy than the brain so you feel sluggish sleepy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 July, 2012, 02:08:25 PM

Quote from: Mark Taylor on 14 July, 2012, 01:47:56 PM
...Some more thoughts on the above. OK I'm not a cognitive psychologist (though I know folks with expertise in the field, so I might have the opportunity to discuss it at some point) but I'd have thought that if the brain is anything like a machine then it's more like a multitasking computer system than a mechanical device. With a mechanical device if one thing goes faster, everything goes faster. So, if the brain was a simple clockwork machine then yes, in order to perceive things in slow motion the whole mechanism would have to run faster, and your reactions would also be speeded up. With a multitasking computer system, on the other hand, if one process runs faster than other processes have to slow down to compensate. The system has a limited capacity which has to be shared out between different processes. Now whilst I do think the brain is probably a bit more flexible than that, it still has to have it's limits. In order for you to perceive everything in slow motion, your brain actually has to be recording perceptions at a much faster rate than normal. Because your brain is forced (by the drug) into concentrating on this particular task, the likelyhood is in fact, that your performence in all other tasks (including reactions, etc.) will suffer as a result. My expectation would be as a result of Slo-Mo you'd actually be less able to react to something like Dredd appearing and trying to shoot your face off than if you were straight.



The analogy of brain-processes speeding up in order for perception to slow-down would apply if brain-perception ran like a film-camera to which I don't know the answer, but, if that were the case, logically an opposite drug to Slo-Mo (Hi-Speed™) could have the extreme opposite effect of speeding up perception but  for perception to speed-up would mean brain-processes would need to slow-down, to which I also don't know the answer but I don't believe would be true.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 14 July, 2012, 02:25:08 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 14 July, 2012, 02:08:25 PMThe analogy of brain-processes speeding up in order for perception to slow-down would apply if brain-perception ran like a film-camera to which I don't know the answer, but, if that were the case, logically an opposite drug to Slo-Mo (Hi-Speed™) could have the extreme opposite effect of speeding up perception but  for perception to speed-up would mean brain-processes would need to slow-down, to which I also don't know the answer but I don't believe would be true.

Well as I say I'm not an expert but I have spent years around A.I. experts, psychologists an the like and had a lot of conversations about this sort of thing. I know enough about it to know that it is somewhat like a film camera insofar as the brain does record perceptions as a series of 'snapshots', although the analogy begins to break there because each 'brain snapshot' is more like a fraction of a second of 'mini movie' than an actual still frame. Being naturally curious after the incident I referred to above I did find some information about a study which had been done where they came to the conclusion that during life-threatening situations the brain can in actually record perceptions at a faster rate (no I don't have any links, this was ages ago). If this can happen naturally then presumably it could be induced by a drug if you can find the right way to unlock that kind of brain-state chemically.

Regardless of whether you think of the brain as anything like a computer system or not, the fact is that almost all drugs which enhance some brain function interfere with others. For obvious reasons a fair bit of research has gone into the effect of drugs of people's ability to drive a vehicle without disastrously cocking it up. There is no recreational drug which enhances your ability to drive - but there are a few which make you think they do. Can't see slow-mo being any different just because it enhances your perceptions. As mentioned earlier, reactions and pereptions are two completely different brain functions.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 14 July, 2012, 03:29:48 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 14 July, 2012, 01:47:56 PM...My expectation would be as a result of Slo-Mo you'd actually be less able to react to something like Dredd appearing and trying to shoot your face off than if you were straight.

I think you probably nailed it. Though Tracky Guy™ did look like he had Dredd in his sights at least. Not bad for a smackhead.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 14 July, 2012, 03:32:15 PM
Karl Urban Video Interview, JoBlo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkFIRKydjIs

great stuff!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 14 July, 2012, 06:51:45 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 14 July, 2012, 03:32:15 PM
Karl Urban Video Interview, JoBlo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkFIRKydjIs

great stuff!
That is a good interview. Urban comes across pretty pumped in this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 14 July, 2012, 07:00:40 PM
You can tell he's happy with what he's seen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 14 July, 2012, 07:08:06 PM
Urban is a class act, I really like him. We couldn't have asked for more...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 14 July, 2012, 07:42:33 PM
Being cursed with a former rabid Xena/Hercules fangirl for a wife, I have been exposed to the Urban Evangelical movement for over a decade now, only really buying into his talents myself with Star Trek XI, but I've got to admit that he is a hugely impressive interviewee.  Sincere, informed, enthusiastic and eloquent: you don't see many actors that can sustain that.

Probably a skill honed over years of Raimi/Tapert convention fangirl-wrangling...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 July, 2012, 07:59:08 PM
Always like Karl Urban as first notice him in Ghost Ship, he does doing it well in his films! Like him in Riddick!

There is Karl Urban's film out on FilmFour tonight at 1.50am, Pathfinder, he was good at actions!

(http://www.linternaute.com/cinema/image_cache/objdbfilm/image/540/23071.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 14 July, 2012, 08:04:46 PM
Yep, the one thing i think everyone can agree on is that Urban is a very nice man, a pretty good actor and fast turning into a top notch ambassador for 2000AD. Mind you, after a couple of years having to deal with trekkies, i'd imagine we seem almost normal- even commando forces, bless his little camo socks.

Urban is just at that level of hollywood fame where he's still got people telling him the truth, saying 'no' and he hasnt joined a mind-control cult slash tax dodge organisation as yet. Long may he maintain this admirable abnormality.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 14 July, 2012, 08:26:20 PM
Olivia Thirlby interview at JoBlo.
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/comic-con-2012-interview-with-dredd-star-olivia-thirlby
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 14 July, 2012, 08:59:33 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 14 July, 2012, 07:59:08 PM
Always like Karl Urban as first notice him in Ghost Ship, he does doing it well in his films! Like him in Riddick!

There is Karl Urban's film out on FilmFour tonight at 1.50am, Pathfinder, he was good at actions!

http://www.linternaute.com/cinema/image_cache/objdbfilm/image/540/23071.jpg

Cool beans. I was just thinking about that the other day. Not his best though..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 14 July, 2012, 09:00:57 PM
I mean it's no Outlander.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 14 July, 2012, 09:29:27 PM
I really liked Pathfinder, thought it was visually striking and quite impressed they shot it so quickly - 30 days or something? Real good characterisation too, and good pieces of action throughout. ANd I like Clancy Brown so win win.

And Xena was great fun, is still when I manage to catch a repeat. His Caesar was awesome.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 14 July, 2012, 09:40:56 PM
Wonder if it's also worth recommending some Anderson stuff to unknowing peeps too?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 15 July, 2012, 05:38:45 AM
Urban & Thirlby video interview with Machinima

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdtbQLWpXis
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 15 July, 2012, 06:01:42 AM
Long audio Karl Urban Interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opwf8EmOx28

well worth listening to.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 15 July, 2012, 07:13:56 AM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 14 July, 2012, 02:25:08 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 14 July, 2012, 02:08:25 PMThe analogy of brain-processes speeding up in order for perception to slow-down would apply if brain-perception ran like a film-camera to which I don't know the answer, but, if that were the case, logically an opposite drug to Slo-Mo (Hi-Speed™) could have the extreme opposite effect of speeding up perception but  for perception to speed-up would mean brain-processes would need to slow-down, to which I also don't know the answer but I don't believe would be true.

There is no recreational drug which enhances your ability to drive - but there are a few which make you think they do.

I saw a test of this on TV. A driver was tested with increasing amounts of alcohol in his system and a few days later the tests were repeated but with marijuana. They found even small amounts of alcohol disrupted his driving and it got rapidly worse as the quantity increased.

Interestingly with marijuana it was slightly different in that there was a slight improvement in his driving, he became more concentrated and drove more carefully. But this didn't last, the more marijuana he smoked the slower he drove and his skull level dropped. He didn't swerve or hit road cones as he did with booze, his spatial awareness seemed ok...he just got increasingly slow...he began to drive in slo mo. It was hilarious to watch as he slowed to the slowest stoner crawl.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 15 July, 2012, 08:01:14 AM

http://www.beforethetrailer.com/2012/07/our-exclusive-interview-with-karl-urban-from-dredd-3d-at-san-diego-comic-con-2012/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 15 July, 2012, 08:23:07 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 15 July, 2012, 06:01:42 AM
Long audio Karl Urban Interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opwf8EmOx28

well worth listening to.

What's that last question sneaked in after they said their thanks and byes? He started to answer but the audio cuts off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 15 July, 2012, 08:25:11 AM
Some pics with the audio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opwf8EmOx28&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opwf8EmOx28&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 July, 2012, 08:40:56 AM
Has anyone mentioned the exclusive new pictures featured in this month's Megazine?

Not too dissimilar from what we've seen before, but they're new nonetheless. There's a cool shot of Dredd and Anderson under fire.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 July, 2012, 09:01:30 AM
Quote from: radiator on 15 July, 2012, 08:40:56 AM
Has anyone mentioned the exclusive new pictures featured in this month's Megazine?

Not too dissimilar from what we've seen before, but they're new nonetheless. There's a cool shot of Dredd and Anderson under fire.

Then scanning it please
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 15 July, 2012, 10:32:52 AM
Urban is a terrific physical actor, I thought his fight scenes in Red were excellent. In the red band trailer he moves like a cat at that door. Not every actor has that graceful movement or convincing physical expression. A mix of good stage fighting and dance too, I suppose. Harrison Ford and Sean Connery both are skilled like this and so is Urban.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 15 July, 2012, 11:08:35 AM
Pathfinder is great for Urban showing off those skills. And talking of other actors - Jensen Ackles is fantastic at physical action too, totally believable and looks cool while doing it. Saw him in Dark Angel and Supernatural and had no idea he came from a daytime soap. Jared P, on the other hand (his co-star in Supernatural) - apparently he auditioned for Conan - but I swear, he's over 6'4 and looks like someone never taught him how to use his limbs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 15 July, 2012, 11:18:09 AM
There`s a 2min Interview on Xbox Live, it is FREE and HD.
http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/TVShow/Comic-Con-2012/Season/1/c82802e3-fba9-4fb6-a0a0-c16c671b0420#

The Preview for non-US people is 30seconds.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 15 July, 2012, 12:39:35 PM
Dredd pic I have't seen before, used as a poster in SDCC - http://karlurbaninternational.tumblr.com/post/27208585468

Thought there was a knife hilt but I think my eyes are playing tricks on me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 15 July, 2012, 12:46:16 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 15 July, 2012, 12:39:35 PM
Dredd pic I have't seen before, used as a poster in SDCC - http://karlurbaninternational.tumblr.com/post/27208585468

Thought there was a knife hilt but I think my eyes are playing tricks on me.

You can only view it if your in the states :/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 15 July, 2012, 01:00:11 PM
I can see it,looks great,ace pose,need a better pic of it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 15 July, 2012, 01:07:34 PM
If you can't see it  :)

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k192/danbo1138/dreddcon.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 15 July, 2012, 01:22:58 PM
Holy grud, that's awesome!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 15 July, 2012, 01:43:13 PM
DroKk! dat's good!  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 15 July, 2012, 02:22:21 PM
pic is from the lionsgate twitter account :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 15 July, 2012, 02:34:32 PM
Great pose!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ED GRIMREAPER on 15 July, 2012, 02:37:03 PM
WOW!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 July, 2012, 02:40:59 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 15 July, 2012, 12:39:35 PM
Dredd pic I have't seen before, used as a poster in SDCC - http://karlurbaninternational.tumblr.com/post/27208585468

Thought there was a knife hilt but I think my eyes are playing tricks on me.

Ack! The Dredd page needs to post that. Nice find.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 July, 2012, 02:50:20 PM
The original pic, I meant.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 15 July, 2012, 03:25:42 PM
Would look sweet as the BluRay box art cover.

Hint hint Lionsgate.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 15 July, 2012, 03:27:29 PM
When SDCC ends I am pretty sure Lionsgate will provide us fans with a proper pic :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 15 July, 2012, 03:42:00 PM
That pic is badass, that should be the poster.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 15 July, 2012, 04:29:44 PM
They should do it as a life-size stand up figure poster thing - what do you call them? - I'd buy it for sure.

Not Dredd-related exactly, so playing safe and not posting the link here - but on karlurbaninternational's site again (wonderful site, by the way, thanks :)) there's a vid of what Karl meant by Star Trek 2 sneak peak. I can see Trekkers/media going after him with flaming torches and pitchforks *g*

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 15 July, 2012, 04:36:25 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 15 July, 2012, 04:29:44 PM
I can see Trekkers/media going after him with flaming torches and pitchforks *g*
:)

http://youtu.be/MwD4ii-1AR8 (http://youtu.be/MwD4ii-1AR8)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 15 July, 2012, 07:09:57 PM
^ That's excellent. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 15 July, 2012, 09:19:56 PM
Zoomed in on the lovely poster posted previously checking out the detail on DREDD's face only  to discover this!  Any idea's?  ... Looks like a ghostly apparition to me!  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 15 July, 2012, 09:23:29 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 15 July, 2012, 09:19:56 PM
Zoomed in on the lovely poster posted previously checking out the detail on DREDD's face only  to discover this!  Any idea's?  ... Looks like a ghostly apparition to me!  :o

You're scaring me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 15 July, 2012, 09:25:23 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 15 July, 2012, 11:08:35 AM
Pathfinder is great for Urban showing off those skills. And talking of other actors - Jensen Ackles is fantastic at physical action too, totally believable and looks cool while doing it. Saw him in Dark Angel and Supernatural and had no idea he came from a daytime soap. Jared P, on the other hand (his co-star in Supernatural) - apparently he auditioned for Conan - but I swear, he's over 6'4 and looks like someone never taught him how to use his limbs.

It's true...it's as obvious when they are wooden or awkward.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 15 July, 2012, 09:29:14 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 15 July, 2012, 09:19:56 PM
Zoomed in on the lovely poster posted previously checking out the detail on DREDD's face only  to discover this!  Any idea's?  ... Looks like a ghostly apparition to me!  :o
That's freaky...but there is a line above, a reflection, what you see is another massive poster reflected from an adjacent wall...but that is spooky.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 15 July, 2012, 09:32:46 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 15 July, 2012, 09:29:14 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 15 July, 2012, 09:19:56 PM
Zoomed in on the lovely poster posted previously checking out the detail on DREDD's face only  to discover this!  Any idea's?  ... Looks like a ghostly apparition to me!  :o
That's freaky...but there is a line above, a reflection, what you see is another massive poster reflected from an adjacent wall...but that is spooky.

Its...not....[spoiler]Scojo[/spoiler] is it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 15 July, 2012, 09:35:01 PM
I'm off to bed in a sec and l'm shitting me Sen!

Only possible explaination is someones reflection,  taking the piss out of Dredds face by mimicking it!

Good night everyone,  don't have nightmares! :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 July, 2012, 09:37:16 PM
It reflection from someone on first floor to left side of the poster.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 15 July, 2012, 10:03:26 PM
New gallery image at http://www.dreddthemovie.com/

Dredd and Anderson kicking in door, similar to the pic in Empire last year, a HQ version of which can be found over on KUI (http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1237/dredd-extras-behind-the-scenes-on-set-making-offs/15/).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 15 July, 2012, 10:13:14 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 15 July, 2012, 09:19:56 PM
Zoomed in on the lovely poster posted previously checking out the detail on DREDD's face only  to discover this!  Any idea's?  ... Looks like a ghostly apparition to me!  :o

It's the ghost of Otto Sump!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 15 July, 2012, 10:13:23 PM
http://youtu.be/MwD4ii-1AR8  (http://youtu.be/MwD4ii-1AR8)  at 2:34


The Star Trek Hoax was just an elaborate plug for Dredd.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 15 July, 2012, 10:15:05 PM
Dredd's 'scope on flat' provides an increased presence of the action in the 'negative parallax space'. Allegedly.

http://www.stereoscopynews.com/hotnews/3d-movies/3d-blockbusters/2561-dredd-3d-will-use-the-scope-on-flat-format.html#.UAMrfXVO6JM.twitter
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 July, 2012, 10:24:12 PM
I think that's the same pic, CN. Thanks though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buddy on 15 July, 2012, 10:51:03 PM
Quote from: Durendal on 14 July, 2012, 11:53:59 AM
Quote from: Emp on 13 July, 2012, 10:05:51 PM
Its not even out and I have found a negative review...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCJjTsB8epI...was most impressed withthe mention of Judge Whitey ::)
Youtube video bloggers are not even failed journalists and should not be given any attention, just like reply girl boobcams and the people who film themselves opening a variety of things. When I am president of the universe people with personality disorders will be forbidden from owning cameras and it will be illegal for under 21s to purchase microphone headsets.

I'm pleasantly surprised by the reviews so far, even the unflattering ones are positive, and have convinced me to watch this in 3D when it's released. Haven't watched a 3D movie since Krull in the 80's

Banana Republic in Jamaica?
The Apocalypse Now story?

Had to switch off after about two mins.....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 July, 2012, 11:34:10 PM
I've been away working on a project:*
I'd written and directed a show
that nobody came to see
(well some did, but one night
there was only six people
and one of them walked out
)
I was not a happy bunny, lost money/ felt like a fraud e.t.c. 
Reading the post comic-con reviews and comments puts all that trivial personal nonsense into perspective:

I feel like Goaty's avatar. 

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 July, 2012, 11:43:54 PM
Soory about that, better luck next time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 July, 2012, 11:48:14 PM
Erah...one bad run out 'first-world's most 'first-world problems'- and DREDD seems the business!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 July, 2012, 11:59:11 PM
You learn a new term everyday..

DREDD 3D will use the Scope-on-flat format
http://www.stereoscopynews.com/hotnews/3d-movies/3d-blockbusters/2561-dredd-3d-will-use-the-scope-on-flat-format.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 July, 2012, 12:02:09 AM
Look ^up the thread.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 July, 2012, 12:08:28 AM
 :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 July, 2012, 03:20:58 AM
Quite a nice little video with Karl and Olivia.

Helmet vision sorted with this, plus they have advice for anyone who wants to wear the uniform and there's a wee bit about reading minds as well  :thumbsup:

DREDD chat! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdtbQLWpXis)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 July, 2012, 06:34:27 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 July, 2012, 03:20:58 AM
Quite a nice little video with Karl and Olivia.

Helmet vision sorted with this, plus they have advice for anyone who wants to wear the uniform and there's a wee bit about reading minds as well  :thumbsup:

DREDD chat! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdtbQLWpXis)
Good interview, they make a good team!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 July, 2012, 06:37:15 AM
Quote from: dracula1 on 15 July, 2012, 09:19:56 PM
Zoomed in on the lovely poster posted previously checking out the detail on DREDD's face only  to discover this!  Any idea's?  ... Looks like a ghostly apparition to me!  :o
Ok check this out at 35 or so seconds, that poster of Dredd. Can't say for sure but it looks like that face is there...so I reckon it may be a reflection of someone in the film, whoever Dredd is pointing the finger at.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 July, 2012, 06:37:59 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 16 July, 2012, 06:37:15 AM
Quote from: dracula1 on 15 July, 2012, 09:19:56 PM
Zoomed in on the lovely poster posted previously checking out the detail on DREDD's face only  to discover this!  Any idea's?  ... Looks like a ghostly apparition to me!  :o
Ok check this out at 35 or so seconds, that poster of Dredd. Can't say for sure but it looks like that face is there...so I reckon it may be a reflection of someone in the film, whoever Dredd is pointing the finger at.
Forgot he link...At 35 secs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKHWm2o_LdQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 July, 2012, 07:00:00 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 15 July, 2012, 11:34:10 PM
I've been away working on a project:*
I was not a happy bunny...

Get right back up on that horse!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 16 July, 2012, 08:31:09 AM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 15 July, 2012, 10:13:23 PM
http://youtu.be/MwD4ii-1AR8  (http://youtu.be/MwD4ii-1AR8)  at 2:34


The Star Trek Hoax was just an elaborate plug for Dredd.
[/quote

At the end though, they did get a few seconds of JJ calling ST2 a wrap. So, technically... I'm amused :) Besides, badass and a geek? I'm liking the guy more and more.

Quote from: BOODA on 16 July, 2012, 07:00:00 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 15 July, 2012, 11:34:10 PM
I've been away working on a project:*
I was not a happy bunny...

Get right back up on that horse!

Ditto! But have a wallow first - with pizza! - and then get back out there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dunk! on 16 July, 2012, 09:27:41 AM
The Karl Urban Star Trek video has me liking this guy more and more.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HdE on 16 July, 2012, 09:44:05 AM
I just had an awesome moment where I logged into the board, saw Dredd in the left hand sidebar, and went 'SQUEEE!!! HOW COOL IS IT THAT I'M GONNA SEE A MOVIE WITH THAT CHARACTER IN IT SOON!'

On reflection, I may have been better served by NOT doing that while having a cooked breakfast in my local cafe, surrounded by onlookers.

Ahem!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 July, 2012, 12:43:28 PM
Re-watch this clip again, and it will be here in two months! Cant wait!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8lMmRe6Z44 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8lMmRe6Z44)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 16 July, 2012, 01:59:36 PM
Hearing people who went to see Spiderman at the weekend talking about the Dredd trailer, which is being shown before that apparently.

Pretty cool that it's being advertised before such a huge film, and interesting to see what sort of reaction it gets from the masses going to that film (response in my office sounds overwhelmingly positive, but then we're all nerds so not really a good indicator)!

Still having to pinch myself a bit that this is happening and going so well :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 16 July, 2012, 02:21:04 PM
Love to see the trailer on a big screen but despite being a Spidey fan, still am not in the least bit enthused to see Amazing. So fingers crossed it's before Dark Knight too.

Listened to that JoBlo podcast - 100% positive, overwhelmingly, nothing like the Raid except for being stuck in a building.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HdE on 16 July, 2012, 03:15:48 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 16 July, 2012, 02:21:04 PM
Listened to that JoBlo podcast - 100% positive, overwhelmingly, nothing like the Raid except for being stuck in a building.

GOOD! I'm glad *that* particular slice of internet punditry is being put to rest.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 16 July, 2012, 03:23:56 PM
Quote from: HdE on 16 July, 2012, 03:15:48 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 16 July, 2012, 02:21:04 PM
Listened to that JoBlo podcast - 100% positive, overwhelmingly, nothing like the Raid except for being stuck in a building.

GOOD! I'm glad *that* particular slice of internet punditry is being put to rest.

Not gonna happen, mate - people will never stop being stupid on the internet  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 16 July, 2012, 03:37:01 PM
I dont think it's stupidity to acknowledge a (striking) similarity of  premise between two, modestly budgeted , action films released in the same year, ( leaping to accusations of plagiarism is a bit silly though ). Either way,- Defuzzed is right, it's never going to stop, -  just like the people who will always believe Stallone was the definitive Judge Dredd: they may have a tenuous grip on reality, but they exist:

let us take a moment to pity them.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 July, 2012, 03:40:16 PM
I actually saw one of those a couple of weeks back.

He didn't know who Anderson was.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 16 July, 2012, 05:32:18 PM
Olivia talking about Anderson and the sequel....(don't know if it's been posted,soz in advance if it has)
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=63947
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 16 July, 2012, 05:33:26 PM
Ignore it,it in t'other thread.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 16 July, 2012, 09:42:55 PM
io9.com (http://io9.com/5926398/the-biggest-winners-and-losers-of-comic-con-2012?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow) have named Dredd as one of the big winners of SDCC2012
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 July, 2012, 09:49:13 PM
Quote from: pops1983 on 16 July, 2012, 09:42:55 PM
io9.com (http://io9.com/5926398/the-biggest-winners-and-losers-of-comic-con-2012?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow) have named Dredd as one of the big winners of SDCC2012

Nice...

They screened the entire movie at SDCC, and reaped the rewards. People were going nuts for the ultra-violence and surprising cleverness in this dystopian cop movie, not to mention Lena Headey's psychotic turn as the villain Ma-Ma. And the fact that Karl Urban successfully pranked everybody with his "new Star Trek footage" trick, paradoxically, helped too. This film was on people's minds a lot — and actually lived up to the hype.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 16 July, 2012, 10:28:01 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 16 July, 2012, 09:49:13 PM... and actually lived up to the hype.[/b]

There was hype?

;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 July, 2012, 11:17:32 PM
Great news!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 17 July, 2012, 05:03:37 AM
Not bad,even my Marvel XMEN buddy from work whos has never read 2000AD  is fed up with IronMan/Thor etc and wants to tag along for some justice....
Folk are fed up with spandex whingers moaning about their girlfriends/parents.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 17 July, 2012, 05:04:13 AM
Whose.....just woke up
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 July, 2012, 11:42:18 AM
Total Film's Highlights of Comic Con, Dredd is one of those;

Dredd

Based on the reaction we got online, Dredd was among the most exciting things we saw at Comic-Con. Perhaps it was because there was a special screening - of the entire film that is, not just a sizzle reel - but it went down a storm.

There was a collective sigh of relief breathed in the auditorium, as we discovered that Dredd was faithful to its gritty, grubby comic-book roots. And, yes, Karl Urban's mug is obscured by a sleek helmet throughout.

The levels of grue being blasted out of the screen in (surprisingly welcome 3D) paint this as a distinctly family 'unfriendly' affair. Robbed of his eyes, Urban snarls in a throaty, Dredd-appropriate drawl, sharing zero DNA with Sly Stallone's interpretation of the character.

The single location set-up (a siege on a drug-addled tower block) made for a leaner comic-book movie than your average, and Olivia Thirlby impressed with a decent arc from newbie to tough cookie during the course of one very bad day.


http://www.totalfilm.com/features/comic-con-2012-round-up-the-highlights/dredd (http://www.totalfilm.com/features/comic-con-2012-round-up-the-highlights/dredd)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hoops on 17 July, 2012, 01:26:26 PM
Saw the trailer at the cinema yesterday, it's going to be awesome...although the bikes still look really wrong to me...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 17 July, 2012, 01:59:38 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 17 July, 2012, 05:04:13 AM
Whose.....just woke up

who's (who has)

Sorry, would have ignored it if it wasn't a correction itself  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 17 July, 2012, 02:02:00 PM
Quote from: hoops on 17 July, 2012, 01:26:26 PM
Saw the trailer at the cinema yesterday, it's going to be awesome...although the bikes still look really wrong to me...

WHAT film was it played before you tease.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 July, 2012, 02:13:23 PM
Someone mentioned Spiderman the other day.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 July, 2012, 02:15:53 PM
Yep, Hoops post in Spider-Man Reboot thread in Movie Threads about saw it yesterday.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 17 July, 2012, 02:27:34 PM
Thats very high profile, bit surprised, excellent news.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 17 July, 2012, 04:21:45 PM
@blackmocco: Finally had time and I went back reading your report from sdcc ~p392+. thank you for sharing your experience and everything went well. Thank you.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 July, 2012, 05:17:20 PM
Comic Con 2012: No Guts, No Gory for Dredd
http://poptimal.com/2012/07/comic-con-2012-no-guts-no-gory-for-dredd/#.UAVteJFdC1c

It's the first narrative feature film to use the Phantom Flex, a camera capable of shooting HD video at 2,500 frames per second, meaning that when someone gets shot in the face, they really get shot in the face. Like, for an hour. All in 3D. The violence in Dredd may shock, but it comes part and parcel of the character and the world.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hoops on 17 July, 2012, 05:39:27 PM
Sorry! Yeah, it was before the new Spidey film...right up there with Total Recall and Batman... and holding it's own - i was hearing just as much noise after the Dredd trailer as the Bats one :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hoops on 17 July, 2012, 05:40:40 PM
oops 'its' even  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 17 July, 2012, 05:49:24 PM
Quote from: hoops on 17 July, 2012, 05:39:27 PM
Sorry! Yeah, it was before the new Spidey film...right up there with Total Recall and Batman... and holding it's own - i was hearing just as much noise after the Dredd trailer as the Bats one :)

Sweet.The news keeps getting better and better.....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 17 July, 2012, 05:56:17 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 17 July, 2012, 05:03:37 AM
Not bad,even my Marvel XMEN buddy from work whos has never read 2000AD  is fed up with IronMan/Thor etc and wants to tag along for some justice....
Folk are fed up with spandex whingers moaning about their girlfriends/parents.

This is where i can see Dredd really taking off.
In a lot of ways, it might be viewed as a much needed alternative to the usual big budget extravagandas that so often fail to deliver. A nice little short sharp shock.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 17 July, 2012, 06:07:04 PM
QuoteThis is where i can see Dredd really taking off.
In a lot of ways, it might be viewed as a much needed alternative to the usual big budget extravagandas that so often fail to deliver. A nice little short sharp shock.

Don't count on it - look at all the other recent dark/violent comic adaptations like Watchmen, Punisher War Zone, Constantine, Kick-Ass... All of them performed weakly at the box office.

Alex Garland's isn't just being modest when he says it'll be tricky to hit $50m in the US.

Dredd is riding high on geek cred right now, but there is no guarantee that that will transfer into box office success.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 17 July, 2012, 06:14:24 PM
I hope it does. Really really hoping.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 July, 2012, 06:18:08 PM
Quote from: radiator on 17 July, 2012, 06:07:04 PM
Don't count on it - look at all the other recent dark/violent comic adaptations like Watchmen, Punisher War Zone, Constantine, Kick-Ass... All of them performed weakly at the box office.


One of them is a good film and one of them is getting a sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 July, 2012, 06:20:11 PM
Batman doesn't really help since that's probably seen as the main alternative to glowy spandex and emo teen Marvelistas.

Though even as a fan I'm a little apprehensive about seeing another long-winded Nolan flick. I'd like to see a film without risking several DVTs in the process.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 17 July, 2012, 06:22:14 PM
Quote from: radiator on 17 July, 2012, 06:07:04 PM
QuoteThis is where i can see Dredd really taking off.
In a lot of ways, it might be viewed as a much needed alternative to the usual big budget extravagandas that so often fail to deliver. A nice little short sharp shock.

Don't count on it - look at all the other recent dark/violent comic adaptations like Watchmen, Punisher War Zone, Constantine, Kick-Ass... All of them performed weakly at the box office.

Alex Garland's isn't just being modest when he says it'll be tricky to hit $50m in the US.

Dredd is riding high on geek cred right now, but there is no guarantee that that will transfer into box office success.

Difference is, they're all shit. Dredd's a far better movie than any of them.

$50 mil will still be a tough sell but feeling a lot more optimistic about it after seeing it and the buzz after the screening. People know this is coming now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 17 July, 2012, 06:25:54 PM
Sorry. Just to clarify, IMHO they're all shit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 17 July, 2012, 06:33:13 PM
Quote from: Stan on 17 July, 2012, 06:20:11 PM
Batman doesn't really help since that's probably seen as the main alternative to glowy spandex and emo teen Marvelistas.

Though even as a fan I'm a little apprehensive about seeing another long-winded Nolan flick. I'd like to see a film without risking several DVTs in the process.

I know what you mean, I'm tempted to forget about TDKR until the Blu-Ray...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 17 July, 2012, 06:57:29 PM
Just out of curiosity - what is meant by Dredd being a 'Hard R'. Obviously I know the intended meaning, but is there any technical difference in real terms? If the same age group can get in as a regular R rated movie then why should that affect the box office negatively? I mean, District 9 was R Rated and made over $100m...

QuoteOne of them is a good film and one of them is getting a sequel.

Difference is, they're all shit. Dredd's a far better movie than any of them.

Oh, come on - we all know that a film's quality/critical reception makes no odds to it's success or failure. I thought Kick-Ass was tremendous and it got great reviews, but it really didn't do well at all. It is getting a sequel, but I believe that's because it ended up eventually making some money through the home market, and it's unclear if Lionsgate will be involved this time round. I'm getting a slight 'straight-to-DVD' vibe from KA2.

I am delighted about all this buzz and positive reviews though - Dredd was clearly, undeniably one of the films of Comic Con - wouldn't have dared dream that even a couple of weeks ago. Even trying to be subjective, I'd say it's chances of success just went up significantly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 17 July, 2012, 07:10:24 PM
I think one advantage Dredd has is that it's relatively straightforward to pitch to audiences with zero interest in comics: "violent sci-fi cop movie" covers it pretty well, and ought to give people a solid idea of what they're  in for and whether it sounds like their thing.  Explaining what something like Watchmen is about and why you'd want to watch it if you're not into comics is a much harder sell.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 July, 2012, 07:12:06 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 17 July, 2012, 06:33:13 PM
Quote from: Stan on 17 July, 2012, 06:20:11 PM
Batman doesn't really help since that's probably seen as the main alternative to glowy spandex and emo teen Marvelistas.

Though even as a fan I'm a little apprehensive about seeing another long-winded Nolan flick. I'd like to see a film without risking several DVTs in the process.

I know what you mean, I'm tempted to forget about TDKR until the Blu-Ray...

I was actually just thinking that as I typed. I'd probably end up going by myself anyway (like with Begins). Both sad and lame.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 17 July, 2012, 07:17:19 PM
QuoteI think one advantage Dredd has is that it's relatively straightforward to pitch to audiences with zero interest in comics: "violent sci-fi cop movie" covers it pretty well, and ought to give people a solid idea of what they're  in for and whether it sounds like their thing.  Explaining what something like Watchmen is about and why you'd want to watch it if you're not into comics is a much harder sell.

Very true. Also, ever since it was announced I have suspected that Dredd will go down very well with the 'Dad' or 'Bloke' market - the types that usually go for Neveldine-Taylor and/or Jason Statham films. Hopefully it will have the relatively broad appeal to fans of sci-fi and action, not just comic fans.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 17 July, 2012, 07:17:46 PM
Quote from: a chosen rider on 17 July, 2012, 07:10:24 PM
I think one advantage Dredd has is that it's relatively straightforward to pitch to audiences with zero interest in comics: "violent sci-fi cop movie" covers it pretty well, and ought to give people a solid idea of what they're  in for and whether it sounds like their thing.  Explaining what something like Watchmen is about and why you'd want to watch it if you're not into comics is a much harder sell.

That's a huge advantage Dredd has over the other movies mentioned, I would say. Simple core concept.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 17 July, 2012, 07:33:33 PM
Suppose box office is a bit unpredictable but with the lack of anything considerably bigger out the same time, plus the great reviews it should be able to open well, and if that happens then more people may go see it just out of curiosity.

Plus dvd/blu-ray they will make a killing.

My only confusion now is that I thought the early UK release was to help get buzz before hitting the USA but it seems they have already achieved that, so now it just seems like a big risk to have such a long gap in-between in case a good copy gets leaked. Which I really, really hope it doesn't.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 July, 2012, 07:35:31 PM
Okay, all re-actions on it been positives, so let it be the day of entertainment on your visit to see it at cinema in September! What the point in comments about it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 17 July, 2012, 07:48:08 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 17 July, 2012, 07:33:33 PM
Suppose box office is a bit unpredictable but with the lack of anything considerably bigger out the same time, plus the great reviews it should be able to open well, and if that happens then more people may go see it just out of curiosity.

Plus dvd/blu-ray they will make a killing.

My only confusion now is that I thought the early UK release was to help get buzz before hitting the USA but it seems they have already achieved that, so now it just seems like a big risk to have such a long gap in-between in case a good copy gets leaked. Which I really, really hope it doesn't.

The 'good' copies tend to be more from screener DVDs than anything - I'm not sure what the potential damage from a camera copy is.

It is only two weeks difference - I wouldn't be bothered if they bumped it to the 21st over here, but I guess the schedules are pretty much locked down.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 July, 2012, 07:54:21 PM
Quote from: radiator on 17 July, 2012, 06:57:29 PM
Oh, come on - we all know that a film's quality/critical reception makes no odds to it's success or failure.

Dredd was clearly, undeniably one of the films of Comic Con - wouldn't have dared dream that even a couple of weeks ago. Even trying to be subjective, I'd say it's chances of success just went up significantly.



So which is it?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 17 July, 2012, 08:21:18 PM
Quote from: radiator on 17 July, 2012, 06:57:29 PM
Oh, come on - we all know that a film's quality/critical reception makes no odds to it's success or failure. I thought Kick-Ass was tremendous and it got great reviews, but it really didn't do well at all. It is getting a sequel, but I believe that's because it ended up eventually making some money through the home market, and it's unclear if Lionsgate will be involved this time round. I'm getting a slight 'straight-to-DVD' vibe from KA2.

I am delighted about all this buzz and positive reviews though - Dredd was clearly, undeniably one of the films of Comic Con - wouldn't have dared dream that even a couple of weeks ago. Even trying to be subjective, I'd say it's chances of success just went up significantly.

Critical reception matters, particularly with something high-concept like Dredd. If it's well-reviewed in the likes of Variety, that brings it to the attention of people outside the fanbase who normally wouldn't bother with what looks like, at first glance, a lunkheaded low-budget b-movie sci-fi action movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Albion on 17 July, 2012, 09:04:08 PM
A friend of mine is at a screening of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight tonight and he just sent me a message saying "The Dredd trailer looked much better on the big screen".

He is aware of Dredd but doesn't read the prog but it sounds like he likes the look of the movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 17 July, 2012, 09:15:03 PM
Took the wee fellas to Spiderman, traffic issues meant we missed the credits, I didn't mind...until now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 17 July, 2012, 10:11:22 PM
Four new photos from KUI. http://karlurbaninternational.tumblr.com/post/27424525584
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 July, 2012, 10:24:48 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 17 July, 2012, 10:11:22 PM
Four new photos from KUI. http://karlurbaninternational.tumblr.com/post/27424525584

(http://i.imgur.com/PUofJ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Zft3O.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1h47n.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/IJJW3.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 17 July, 2012, 10:30:17 PM
That Dredd running pic - uniform looks fantastic in motion.

Constantine is easily the good one in my book. Loved what they did with the angels, the androgeny and the untouchable look, and that heavy sonic boomish whoosh thing with the wings. Fear and tension, felt it all in spades.

As for TDKR, I'm absolutely hyped for it. I'd happily sit through 2 hours to see what Tom Hardy does with Bane and to see what the big mystery is with Joseph G Levitt.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 17 July, 2012, 10:31:51 PM
Great pics! Now, where is that comic-con poster thing in high res!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 17 July, 2012, 10:34:24 PM
I'd love to see the Dredd trailer on the big screen but I just can't bring myself to shell out for the "new" Spider-Man film when it's a remake of a film that's barely ten years old. Lots of other decent films out at the moment for me to spend my time and money on.

I'll hopefully get a chance to go to The Dark Knight Rises this Saturday afternoon. It'll be my first time seeing a film in IMAX too so quite looking forward to it. Not sure if the Dredd trailer is showing before this but I'm hoping it is!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 17 July, 2012, 10:37:44 PM
Who's the artist in charge of the tattoo designs?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 17 July, 2012, 10:56:57 PM
Yay, Judge Anderson and Avon Barksdale together at last  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JamesC on 17 July, 2012, 10:59:35 PM
There's a nice little interview with Urban and Thrilby on the Xbox video channel (you'll need to download the free Zune app). It's only a couple of minutes long but it's nice to see the obvious enthusiasm from the two leads and their delight at how well the screening has gone down.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 July, 2012, 11:17:17 PM
Nice pics. I wish they'd be a little more careful with the spoilers though (speaking as an expert!).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 17 July, 2012, 11:27:04 PM
And a couple more stills on the KUW.
http://karlurbankiwi.creatuforo.com/dredd-2012-filming-promotion-stills-temas18651.html#18651
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 July, 2012, 11:45:23 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 17 July, 2012, 11:27:04 PM
And a couple more stills on the KUW.
http://karlurbankiwi.creatuforo.com/dredd-2012-filming-promotion-stills-temas18651.html#18651


(http://i.imgur.com/x2eSP.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/lXfIG.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/vgY6f.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Bo92I.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 17 July, 2012, 11:47:56 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 17 July, 2012, 11:27:04 PM
And a couple more stills on the KUW.
http://karlurbankiwi.creatuforo.com/dredd-2012-filming-promotion-stills-temas18651.html#18651

Some neat stills there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 17 July, 2012, 11:52:26 PM
And five more (three new) from KUI! :)
http://karlurbaninternational.tumblr.com
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 July, 2012, 11:52:58 PM
Two of them are just video grabs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 17 July, 2012, 11:54:55 PM
Ooh. I just noticed the bullet hole in Dredd's Jacket in the last picture. More effective than the comics version then? (I know that should be obvious when comparing kevlar to leathers but I thought  the comic leather-type suit might actually be thin armour and future guns might be more powerful than our own.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 July, 2012, 12:00:31 AM
(http://media.aullidos.com/galerias/juez-dredd/imagen-14.jpg)


(http://media.aullidos.com/galerias/juez-dredd/imagen-2.jpg)


(http://media.aullidos.com/galerias/juez-dredd/imagen-17.jpg)

They're all kaken from here:

http://www.aullidos.com/imagenes-pelicula.asp?id_pelicula=7358&id=3


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 18 July, 2012, 12:07:41 AM
Quote from: JamesC on 17 July, 2012, 10:59:35 PM
There's a nice little interview with Urban and Thrilby on the Xbox video channel (you'll need to download the free Zune app). It's only a couple of minutes long but it's nice to see the obvious enthusiasm from the two leads and their delight at how well the screening has gone down.

Thanks for that.Recently bought a new X box so it's a bit new to me.At the end of a few interviews at comiccon it says 'trailer now available on X-box video but I can't find it....Can someone point in the right direction.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 July, 2012, 12:10:33 AM
Wow, that great scar Ma-Ma got!

(http://i.imgur.com/1Q0Qv.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 18 July, 2012, 12:31:51 AM
This is a better source. IPTC & EXIF info intact.
http://blogdesuperheroes.es/2012/07/17/cine-nuevas-imagenes-teaser-poster-para-espana-y-reacciones-en-la-san-diego-comic-con.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 18 July, 2012, 01:04:32 AM
This floor doesn't appear to have a ceiling.

(http://blogdesuperheroes.es/wp-content/plugins/BdSGallery/BdSGaleria/8282.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 18 July, 2012, 01:16:50 AM
A morose exhausted looking Anderson here:

(http://blogdesuperheroes.es/wp-content/plugins/BdSGallery/BdSGaleria/8294.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 July, 2012, 01:21:01 AM
Quote from: Stan on 18 July, 2012, 01:04:32 AM
This floor doesn't appear to have a ceiling.




It's the lighting rig of the set.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 18 July, 2012, 01:27:05 AM
I assumed it was was some kind've light but it's hard to make out the detail.

And now I'm wondering if Anderson will have her Psi badge if they make another.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 July, 2012, 01:33:44 AM
Why send the signal out to perps that she's PSI, it'd be more tactful to hide that talent.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: clavell on 18 July, 2012, 01:41:09 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/x2eSP.jpg)


Damn that look good ! :o

- C
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 18 July, 2012, 01:49:08 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 July, 2012, 01:33:44 AM
Why send the signal out to perps that she's PSI, it'd be more tactful to hide that talent.

That actually crossed my mind when I saw the pic of her captured. I suppose it depends on how widely known it is why some judges are running around without helmets.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 18 July, 2012, 01:52:22 AM
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/07/17/olivia-thirlby-talks-dredd-reboot/ (http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/07/17/olivia-thirlby-talks-dredd-reboot/)

Olivia Thirlby Interview
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 18 July, 2012, 02:05:26 AM
Those new pics are just SO cool, this movie is going to give The Dark Knight Rises a run for it's money... and it would appear increasingly likely that it's simply impossible to take a bad shot of Olivia Thirlby, ANY shot, even exhausted and morose, she is still absolutely radiant; tough but vulnerable... she IS Anderson!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 18 July, 2012, 02:27:38 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 18 July, 2012, 02:05:26 AM
Those new pics are just SO cool, this movie is going to give The Dark Knight Rises a run for it's money... and it would appear increasingly likely that it's simply impossible to take a bad shot of Olivia Thirlby, ANY shot, even exhausted and morose, she is still absolutely radiant; tough but vulnerable... she IS Anderson!

Probably not box-office wise, I think it's safe to say.

Thirlby is, to use some northside Dublin verbage, a bleedin' ride. She's gorgeous from every angle in the movie and she's got the greatest eyebrows in Hollywood right now. At the screening in the flesh, she's even more stunning although she is absolutely tiny.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 18 July, 2012, 02:32:20 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 18 July, 2012, 02:27:38 AM
Probably not box-office wise, I think it's safe to say.

I probably should have specified it'll give TDKR a run for it's money in terms of overall CBM quality, there I've done it now, better late and all that...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 18 July, 2012, 03:51:06 AM
Its still nearly two months till Dredd is released stateside, just wonder what else the marketeers have instore to keep the momentum and focus going.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: norse_sage on 18 July, 2012, 11:41:44 AM
They better have something to bring in General audiences.
The campaign so far has been geared towards getting the US CBM crowd aboard, now that that seems to have worked, they need to to start focusing on the general audiences, those who wouldn't see the movie anyway.

If they fail in doing this, the movie won't open muh better than PWZ, which would mean no sequels.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 18 July, 2012, 12:20:43 PM
Super high res still at KUI
http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/post.php?p=6063
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 July, 2012, 12:27:33 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 18 July, 2012, 12:20:43 PM
Super high res still at KUI
http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/post.php?p=6063

(http://i.imgur.com/VWtJB.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 18 July, 2012, 01:03:23 PM
Quote from: norse_sage on 18 July, 2012, 11:41:44 AMThey better have something to bring in General audiences. The campaign so far has been geared towards getting the US CBM crowd aboard, now that that seems to have worked, they need to to start focusing on the general audiences, those who wouldn't see the movie anyway.
To be fair, the massive buzz that happened at Comic-Con has led to mainstream coverage, in film mags and newspapers. It's not just comics geeks who are aware of Dredd now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 July, 2012, 01:13:36 PM
Yep as film mags / sites with positive reviews are not just for comic geeks :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 July, 2012, 01:33:35 PM
Since the film's been reviewed by Variety and Empire, I'd say it's broken out of the ComiCon bubble.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 18 July, 2012, 01:45:50 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 July, 2012, 01:33:35 PM
Since the film's been reviewed by Variety and Empire, I'd say it's broken out of the ComiCon bubble.

..and that's a very good thing. Variety especially if it was a positive review.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 18 July, 2012, 03:12:38 PM
That Lionsgate video display in full-length gigantovision.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/18703657@N03/7583459960/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 18 July, 2012, 05:04:31 PM
Cool
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 18 July, 2012, 05:05:29 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 18 July, 2012, 12:20:43 PM
Super high res still at KUI
http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/post.php?p=6063

Thanks. At first I thought those structures were landing pads but judging from the trailer they're probably outdoor recreational thingymajigs. Or maybe they serve as both. The one on the left looks like a skate ramp anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 July, 2012, 05:21:28 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 18 July, 2012, 03:12:38 PM
That Lionsgate video display in full-length gigantovision.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/18703657@N03/7583459960/

High-quality image of it, too big for this thread!

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7583459960_1e06b3e453_o.jpg (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7583459960_1e06b3e453_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 July, 2012, 05:25:24 PM
I presume that poster was playing up to the Irish Americans  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 July, 2012, 05:28:50 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 July, 2012, 05:25:24 PM
I presume that poster was playing up to the Irish Americans  ;)

Why not you be in that poster at every UK Cinemas?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 18 July, 2012, 06:40:15 PM
Is it wrong to slightly fancy Ma-Ma?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 July, 2012, 07:03:52 PM
Finally DREDD was on Inside Hollywood on 5USA. It showed a bit of the trailer and a bit from London Film & Comic Convention.

It's repeated in an hour on 5USA +1 at 19:55
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 July, 2012, 07:20:42 PM
Hmm - could we sneak a CF version of one of these into an Odeon?

http://www.lifesize-cutouts.co.uk/ (http://www.lifesize-cutouts.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 July, 2012, 07:23:58 PM
Why on earth did you have to show me that  :crazy:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 18 July, 2012, 07:29:12 PM
Those images are truly beautiful.

Quote from: Judge Jack on 18 July, 2012, 06:40:15 PM
Is it wrong to slightly fancy Ma-Ma?

Ha, I don't think so, she is hot! Even with scars.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 18 July, 2012, 07:32:34 PM
You gotta wonder though, how do these guys get their hands on these awesome pics? Think some of these originated from a russian website this time!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 July, 2012, 07:40:21 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 July, 2012, 07:23:58 PM
Why on earth did you have to show me that  :crazy:

Better than Mr Wells thinking of it first - think of the damage he could do...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 July, 2012, 08:22:11 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 18 July, 2012, 07:32:34 PM
You gotta wonder though, how do these guys get their hands on these awesome pics? Think some of these originated from a russian website this time!


They're press photos sent out by/to distributors for promotion in each country generally. Some of them still have they're slate info from the scenes they're taken from.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 18 July, 2012, 08:44:12 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 July, 2012, 12:00:31 AM
(http://media.aullidos.com/galerias/juez-dredd/imagen-14.jpg)


Good god man how are they expected to hit anything holding those rifles like that.
The guy in the fore ground seems scared shitless of his weapon.



V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 July, 2012, 08:48:52 PM
You don't need to have smarts to be a criminal...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 July, 2012, 09:06:05 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 18 July, 2012, 06:40:15 PM
Is it wrong to slightly fancy Ma-Ma?

You will be send to Titan for unjudicial liaison, Judge!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 July, 2012, 09:13:12 PM
Ma-Ma ain't no Judge.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 18 July, 2012, 09:15:00 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 July, 2012, 09:13:12 PM
Ma-Ma ain't no Judge.
Double negative there my boy.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 July, 2012, 09:17:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIdIqbv7SPo
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 18 July, 2012, 09:49:55 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 18 July, 2012, 08:44:12 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 July, 2012, 12:00:31 AM
(http://media.aullidos.com/galerias/juez-dredd/imagen-14.jpg)


Good god man how are they expected to hit anything holding those rifles like that.
The guy in the fore ground seems scared shitless of his weapon.

Quote from: Steve Green on 18 July, 2012, 08:48:52 PM
You don't need to have smarts to be a criminal...

Here's one I heard from one of the armorers on this..

One of the guys was handing out the guns to the extras. Standard procedure is to pull back the bolt to show the chamber to the extra, and ask the extra for confirmation that the weapon is clear.. So on one occasion the armorer hold up an AK, I think, pulls the charging handle and asks: "Is it safe?" The meat puppet looks left and right around him and says: "I think so.." The armorer stared at him incredulously for a moment and just handed him the weapon..


V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 18 July, 2012, 09:51:49 PM
gagh.. Stoopid no edit function..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 18 July, 2012, 10:17:53 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 18 July, 2012, 08:44:12 PMGood god man how are they expected to hit anything holding those rifles like that.
The guy in the fore ground seems scared shitless of his weapon.

Watch out - script spoiler!

...

Considering that [spoiler]a lot of the guys going after Dredd and Anderson are supposed to be hapless block residents bullied into it by Mama and her heavies, it does actually make complete sense that there are guys there who have no idea how to use their weapons, and may well even be scared shitless of them.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 18 July, 2012, 11:50:49 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 July, 2012, 09:13:12 PM
Ma-Ma's not the Law.

FTFY
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 19 July, 2012, 12:12:20 AM
Karl Urban Impersonating '95 Dredd  01:05 .

http://youtu.be/VpRvB5g02vc (http://youtu.be/VpRvB5g02vc)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 July, 2012, 12:46:33 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 18 July, 2012, 12:27:33 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 18 July, 2012, 12:20:43 PM
Super high res still at KUI
http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/post.php?p=6063

(http://i.imgur.com/VWtJB.jpg)

That pic makes one hell of a nice cover photo on facebook. Thanks!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 19 July, 2012, 01:22:59 AM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 19 July, 2012, 12:12:20 AM
Karl Urban Impersonating '95 Dredd  01:05 .

http://youtu.be/VpRvB5g02vc (http://youtu.be/VpRvB5g02vc)

And she's wearing a Dredd badge! (I think that's the 95 movie one, isn't it?)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 July, 2012, 01:27:58 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 July, 2012, 09:17:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIdIqbv7SPo

Thats a quality post Mr SOAP
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 July, 2012, 01:37:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XUBU3TAZtg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XUBU3TAZtg)

Quote"thats sum bad a$$ sh1t"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 July, 2012, 01:43:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNiJY9tDiPE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNiJY9tDiPE)

This is a public information bulletin with the message Say NO to Slo-Mo!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 19 July, 2012, 02:01:51 AM
Quote from: Mardroid on 19 July, 2012, 01:22:59 AM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 19 July, 2012, 12:12:20 AM
Karl Urban Impersonating '95 Dredd  01:05 .

http://youtu.be/VpRvB5g02vc (http://youtu.be/VpRvB5g02vc)

And she's wearing a Dredd badge! (I think that's the 95 movie one, isn't it?)

Nope, they were handing them out at Comic-Con this year. Even I got one! They're even made of metal!

Also, my buddy Perry who came to the screening with me knows this girl. We were talking with her for a while at the start of the night...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 19 July, 2012, 02:01:55 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 July, 2012, 01:43:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNiJY9tDiPE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNiJY9tDiPE)

This is a public information bulletin with the message Say NO to Slo-Mo!

Yeah Caught that one a couple weeks back.

He appears to be 'Trippin Ballz'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 19 July, 2012, 02:42:43 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 July, 2012, 01:43:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNiJY9tDiPE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNiJY9tDiPE)

This is a public information bulletin with the message Say NO to Slo-Mo!
i think the guy in the video said yes 2 it lol
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 July, 2012, 09:13:25 AM

Nice of Comic-Con '12 Star Portraits For Entertainment Now

(http://i.imgur.com/MyrzB.png)  (http://i.imgur.com/tqeml.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 19 July, 2012, 09:18:26 AM
I do love that early '90s thing Olivia has going there.  It's as if Tori Spelling had had successful plastic surgery. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 19 July, 2012, 10:05:41 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 July, 2012, 01:43:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNiJY9tDiPE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNiJY9tDiPE)

This is a public information bulletin with the message Say NO to Slo-Mo!

"It loses a lot of points for being weird and confusing."

I'd say this guy needs to get out more, only I suspect the reason he doesn't is because it's just too weird and confusing out there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 July, 2012, 10:16:22 AM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 19 July, 2012, 10:05:41 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 July, 2012, 01:43:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNiJY9tDiPE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNiJY9tDiPE)

This is a public information bulletin with the message Say NO to Slo-Mo!

"It loses a lot of points for being weird and confusing."

I'd say this guy needs to get out more, only I suspect the reason he doesn't is because it's just too weird and confusing out there.
I think it was Warhol that said 'In the future everyone will be famous for 15 minutes' in this case he may have added 'for being dim'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 19 July, 2012, 10:54:55 AM
Megazine came today(2 days early!) and there are a few new stills in that too :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012) uniform or costume ?
Post by: hazy efc on 19 July, 2012, 12:15:29 PM
I was checking out some pics and vid footage of the new DREDD movie and i was thinking how great the costume/uniform looks see 1 of the problems with the original JUDGE DREDD movie was the costume looked just that a costume it probley looks more like the comic uniform which by the way looks amazing than what were seein in DREDD but on the big screen it dont work for me least, but this new UNIFORM does i think, i was watchin a thing the other night on this special police task force i cant recall were is was i think it was poland and these guys were wearing very simalar uniforms minus the helmets and whats all this i keep hearin theres no shoulder eagle there clearly is inbeded in the right shoulder if im not mistaken as for the helmet ive heard some say its too big i myself thought that at first but after seein more pics and that great trailer i think it looks great and from readin dredd i find the helmets size has changed here and there, ROLL ON SEPTEMBER c yall down the cinema  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 19 July, 2012, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 19 July, 2012, 09:18:26 AM
I do love that early '90s thing Olivia has going there.  It's as if Tori Spelling had had successful plastic surgery.
I very rarely actually do "Laugh-out-loud" on th'interweb: this has been one of those times.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 19 July, 2012, 12:22:44 PM
The movement is the main thing that differentiates the two films. In 1995, Dredd moved like a robot, because the uniform was so restrictive. In 2012, Dredd can actually move and act like a cop. There's a good reason Dredd '95 ditched the uniform for many of the action sequences...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 19 July, 2012, 12:33:56 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 18 July, 2012, 08:44:12 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 July, 2012, 12:00:31 AM
(http://media.aullidos.com/galerias/juez-dredd/imagen-14.jpg)


Good god man how are they expected to hit anything holding those rifles like that.
The guy in the fore ground seems scared shitless of his weapon.



V

MCWAARRNN!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012) uniform or costume ?
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 19 July, 2012, 12:44:40 PM
Quote from: hazy efc on 19 July, 2012, 12:15:29 PM
I was checking out some pics and vid footage of the new DREDD movie and i was thinking how great the costume/uniform looks see 1 of the problems with the original JUDGE DREDD movie was the costume looked just that a costume it probley looks more like the comic uniform which by the way looks amazing than what were seein in DREDD but on the big screen it dont work for me least, but this new UNIFORM does i think, i was watchin a thing the other night on this special police task force i cant recall were is was i think it was poland and these guys were wearing very simalar uniforms minus the helmets and whats all this i keep hearin theres no shoulder eagle there clearly is inbeded in the right shoulder if im not mistaken as for the helmet ive heard some say its too big i myself thought that at first but after seein more pics and that great trailer i think it looks great and from readin dredd i find the helmets size has changed here and there, ROLL ON SEPTEMBER c yall down the cinema  :D


The new uniform has more elements from the comic book version and is much more in keeping with  the original design. Just about the only thing the '95 version got right were the shoulder pads and the knee pads. All of the rest came out of the warped imagination of that dead fashion designer.

Btw EPIC SENTENCE.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 19 July, 2012, 12:55:24 PM
 Talking of the uniform.... Having watched the Dredd3D exclusive clip more times than a sane person probable should.... How many others on the board have noticed, that in most of the close up shots of Dredd firing, that the image (like when firing the 'hotshot' in the trailer) is reversed. The eagle pad is on his left shoulder and he's holding his Lawgiver in his left hand. Not that this bothers me, I only spotted this because I was going through hitting 'pause' at all the good bits. But Robert Webb will probably get a few seconds of his 'hilarious'* 'Movie Blooper' show out of this.

I'll get me anorak.

Stew.

*Not funny at all, in the slightest.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 July, 2012, 01:06:22 PM
It's likely that they were flipped to read better in the trailer.

It's unlikely that they would be like that in the film - although the 95 film does it on at least one shot of the street and the type is obviously also reversed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 19 July, 2012, 01:08:00 PM
I like the "Synth-caf 2 go" sign in those http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/post.php?p=6063 pics.

I've avoided reading anything about the script, including the synopsis. I would say there is a spoiler in those photos.

Looking again at the cityscape pics it seems that the city blocks were added to the existing city. I always liked the (totally bonkers) concept that NYC was concreted over and then they started again with MC1.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 19 July, 2012, 01:22:29 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 19 July, 2012, 01:06:22 PM
It's likely that they were flipped to read better in the trailer.

It's unlikely that they would be like that in the film - although the 95 film does it on at least one shot of the street and the type is obviously also reversed.

These 'flipped' images were in the exclusive clip, which I had taken to be out of the actual movie. As I said though, you need a pause button and a keen eye to spot em. :D

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 19 July, 2012, 01:34:36 PM
I think someone mentioned that the 'clip' was actually edited together from different scenes. I'm pretty sure that the judge who appears to be firing hi ex (the same shot as in the trailer) isn't even Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 19 July, 2012, 02:01:28 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 19 July, 2012, 01:08:00 PM
I always liked the (totally bonkers) concept that NYC was concreted over and then they started again with MC1.

I wonder if the idea of the undercity had come from Mary King's Close, a section of streets that was built over by Edinburgh's City Chamber on the Royal Mile. You can go on tours now of these underground 17th century streets. Old New York doesn't seem so bonkers after all. ;)

Quote from: radiator on 19 July, 2012, 01:34:36 PM
I think someone mentioned that the 'clip' was actually edited together from different scenes. I'm pretty sure that the judge who appears to be firing hi ex (the same shot as in the trailer) isn't even Dredd.

Ah! that explains it then.

Stew. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 19 July, 2012, 02:03:28 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 19 July, 2012, 12:44:40 PMthe only thing the '95 version got right were the shoulder pads and the knee pads
Except the eagle isn't actually that close—the top bit kind of is, but the rest is just slats—there's no body, no defined 'wings', no legs and no tail. The knee-pads were better, but then that's not saying much. Still, things could have been worse:

(http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y347/rattyangel/versacedredd.jpg)

Quote from: SuperSurfer on 19 July, 2012, 01:08:00 PMLooking again at the cityscape pics it seems that the city blocks were added to the existing city. I always liked the (totally bonkers) concept that NYC was concreted over and then they started again with MC1.
The thing is, the film works for scale purposes. You look at a cityscape, but then you realise the blocks are dwarfing skyscrapers. Without that moment, it'd be harder to present a sense of scale to the city, and get across to newcomers just how massive the city blocks are.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Judge_T on 19 July, 2012, 02:10:44 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 19 July, 2012, 01:08:00 PM
I like the "Synth-caf 2 go" sign in those http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/post.php?p=6063 pics.

I've avoided reading anything about the script, including the synopsis. I would say there is a spoiler in those photos.

Looking again at the cityscape pics it seems that the city blocks were added to the existing city. I always liked the (totally bonkers) concept that NYC was concreted over and then they started again with MC1.
I always liked the knod to Dredd in the cartoon Futurama.  Where they had "New New York" built overtop "Old New York".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 19 July, 2012, 02:23:09 PM
Quote from: hazy efc on 19 July, 2012, 02:42:43 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 July, 2012, 01:43:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNiJY9tDiPE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNiJY9tDiPE)

This is a public information bulletin with the message Say NO to Slo-Mo!
i think the guy in the video said yes 2 it lol

This 'Trailler Review' Gets funnier with  repeat viewing. I imagine he is the illegitimate offspring of Bobcat Goldthwait. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT9yEHOjYjU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT9yEHOjYjU)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 19 July, 2012, 03:38:37 PM
On that flipped shot...
In the trailer the shot of him firing what then appears to be an Incendiary round is (as we all know) flipped, but so is the next shot of the missile moving right to left across the block which you can tell from the ground far below. This ties it to the third shot which is impossibe to tell if it's flipped or not but looks like it comes from a different part of the scene (and is strangely composed), and then the fourth of the perps scrambling which is non-flipped judging by the writing.

In the redband there's a shot with Dredd and Anderson where he's flipped but she isn't...

Has anyone mentioned the redband doubling up the shot where the lawgiver is on rapid fire?
The first shot is flipped and the background's altered.

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/CraveNoir/doubling.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 19 July, 2012, 03:40:31 PM
I think Giant is going to be a bit of a scene stealer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 19 July, 2012, 03:43:19 PM
?

Giant isn't in the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 19 July, 2012, 03:52:11 PM
Don't spoil it for me. I wasn't intending to misinform anybody.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 July, 2012, 03:56:46 PM
Quote from: SKD on 19 July, 2012, 02:01:28 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 19 July, 2012, 01:08:00 PM
I always liked the (totally bonkers) concept that NYC was concreted over and then they started again with MC1.

I wonder if the idea of the undercity had come from Mary King's Close, a section of streets that was built over by Edinburgh's City Chamber on the Royal Mile. You can go on tours now of these underground 17th century streets. Old New York doesn't seem so bonkers after all. ;)

Quote from: radiator on 19 July, 2012, 01:34:36 PM
I think someone mentioned that the 'clip' was actually edited together from different scenes. I'm pretty sure that the judge who appears to be firing hi ex (the same shot as in the trailer) isn't even Dredd.

Ah! that explains it then.

Stew.
It would be great if somebody could ask John Wagner if Mary Kings Close was the inspiration...I've always thought there may be a connection. I've been down there and would recommend the tour to anyone visiting Edinburgh. Auld Reekie also had the tallest buildings in the world (at the time) - between 9 and 13 floors I think...so it had its blocks too!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 July, 2012, 03:57:59 PM
Rotten Tomatoes currently have DREDD at 100% in their movie "TOMATOMETER" 95% want to see it polled from some 3.650 votes.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd_3d/ (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd_3d/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 July, 2012, 03:58:25 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 19 July, 2012, 02:03:28 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 19 July, 2012, 12:44:40 PMthe only thing the '95 version got right were the shoulder pads and the knee pads
Except the eagle isn't actually that close—the top bit kind of is, but the rest is just slats—there's no body, no defined 'wings', no legs and no tail. The knee-pads were better, but then that's not saying much. Still, things could have been worse:

(http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y347/rattyangel/versacedredd.jpg)

Quote from: SuperSurfer on 19 July, 2012, 01:08:00 PMLooking again at the cityscape pics it seems that the city blocks were added to the existing city. I always liked the (totally bonkers) concept that NYC was concreted over and then they started again with MC1.
The thing is, the film works for scale purposes. You look at a cityscape, but then you realise the blocks are dwarfing skyscrapers. Without that moment, it'd be harder to present a sense of scale to the city, and get across to newcomers just how massive the city blocks are.
Is that 'Tom of Mega City'?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 19 July, 2012, 04:08:01 PM
Off-topic somewhat, but doesn't this make you smile?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-P-ffnvPQWYs/UAgiQGuy6zI/AAAAAAAACAU/HVXwt8LburE/s1600/dream.GIF)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 19 July, 2012, 04:12:32 PM
It's awesome. But realistically it will drop once a few more reviews come in, although given the overall positive buzz I'm expecting about a 70% fresh rating, which isn't bad at all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 July, 2012, 04:14:27 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 19 July, 2012, 03:57:59 PM
Rotten Tomatoes currently have DREDD at 100% in their movie "TOMATOMETER" 95% want to see it polled from some 3.650 votes.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd_3d/ (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd_3d/)

It's great! but just two months to go, wait and see... so those on youtube etc just trolls!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 19 July, 2012, 04:19:58 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 19 July, 2012, 03:56:46 PM
Quote from: SKD on 19 July, 2012, 02:01:28 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 19 July, 2012, 01:08:00 PM
I always liked the (totally bonkers) concept that NYC was concreted over and then they started again with MC1.

I wonder if the idea of the undercity had come from Mary King's Close, a section of streets that was built over by Edinburgh's City Chamber on the Royal Mile. You can go on tours now of these underground 17th century streets. Old New York doesn't seem so bonkers after all. ;)
It would be great if somebody could ask John Wagner if Mary Kings Close was the inspiration...I've always thought there may be a connection. I've been down there and would recommend the tour to anyone visiting Edinburgh. Auld Reekie also had the tallest buildings in the world (at the time) - between 9 and 13 floors I think...so it had its blocks too!

I always assumed the idea of the undercity, (and Old New York in Futurama), was mostly influenced by Beneath The Planet of The Apes.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: golledge100 on 19 July, 2012, 04:48:45 PM

QuoteIt would be great if somebody could ask John Wagner if Mary Kings Close was the inspiration...I've always thought there may be a connection.

I've read somewhere a long time ago that this was indeed the case. I can't remember where though. As for asking Wagner, there always his facebook page.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 19 July, 2012, 08:42:21 PM
There are anomalies though -Prog 2 Whitey holed up in the Empire State Building clearly well above ground , Judge Dredd werewolf saga including Times Square (just a couple of miles away), set  deep underground.

I know ,pedantic, I'll get my coat.... ;) :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 19 July, 2012, 08:49:37 PM
Maybe part of the city fell down a hole. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 July, 2012, 08:51:34 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 19 July, 2012, 08:42:21 PM
There are anomalies though -Prog 2 Whitey holed up in the Empire State Building clearly well above ground , Judge Dredd werewolf saga including Times Square (just a couple of miles away), set  deep underground.

I know ,pedantic, I'll get my coat.... ;) :)

Yeah, city been nuked over!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 July, 2012, 09:05:44 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 19 July, 2012, 08:42:21 PM
There are anomalies though -Prog 2 Whitey holed up in the Empire State Building clearly well above ground , Judge Dredd werewolf saga including Times Square (just a couple of miles away), set  deep underground.

I know ,pedantic, I'll get my coat.... ;) :)

Buildings and landscapes are a bit more mobile in the 21st century see The white cliffs of Dover, and erm... Mount Rushmore...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 July, 2012, 09:08:14 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 19 July, 2012, 08:42:21 PM
There are anomalies though -Prog 2 Whitey holed up in the Empire State Building clearly well above ground , Judge Dredd werewolf saga including Times Square (just a couple of miles away), set  deep underground.

I know ,pedantic, I'll get my coat.... ;) :)
No, don't go, good observation, ...when the werewolf business was running in the progs I thought about that (if we are talking about the Steve Dillon illustrated story, presumably we are...) and I thought as the empire state is one of the largest buildings of the 20th century we could expect it would transcend both the undercity and mega city, poking through by many floors, into MC1. Whitey could conceivably be in the upper floors of a building thats base was in the undercity. We never see the empire state from its base in prog 2, so 30 floors could be pile-driving down into the world of troggies for all we know.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 19 July, 2012, 10:02:03 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 19 July, 2012, 09:05:44 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 19 July, 2012, 08:42:21 PM
There are anomalies though -Prog 2 Whitey holed up in the Empire State Building clearly well above ground , Judge Dredd werewolf saga including Times Square (just a couple of miles away), set  deep underground.

Buildings and landscapes are a bit more mobile in the 21st century see The white cliffs of Dover, and erm... Mount Rushmore...

The Statue of Liberty still seems to be animated by the orange goo from Ghostbusters 2, so often does she hot foot it to a different area of MC1. See also, the Statue of Judgement.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 July, 2012, 11:05:22 PM
[spoiler]Whereas now the SoJ is spread over the whole city[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 19 July, 2012, 11:56:42 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 19 July, 2012, 08:42:21 PM
There are anomalies though -Prog 2 Whitey holed up in the Empire State Building clearly well above ground , Judge Dredd werewolf saga including Times Square (just a couple of miles away), set  deep underground.

I know ,pedantic, I'll get my coat.... ;) :)

See also: World Trade Centre being destroyed by Whitey's brother.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 20 July, 2012, 01:42:56 AM
Only 49 days to go!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 20 July, 2012, 05:14:44 PM
Just a thought -should the 2000AD logo be somewhere on the Dredd poster?

The more people who know the source the better  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 20 July, 2012, 06:13:41 PM
Prequel comic strip announced. Matt Smith writing. Henrty Flint arting. Greg Staples covering.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=39960
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 20 July, 2012, 06:21:10 PM
I always find it weird when they do this for films that are already based on comics. I will buy it though if I can get it in physical form. They may put it on the dvd/blu-ray?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 July, 2012, 06:22:21 PM
In latest Meg, sorry it dark as it digital copy!!

(http://i.imgur.com/K7PsT.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 20 July, 2012, 06:27:41 PM
Thank You Goaty :)

@comic: So this will be a comic with Ma-Ma and Karl!Dredd showing a pre-movie-story?...
Must have *__*!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 July, 2012, 06:46:28 PM
New comic cover about prequel to Dredd 3D featured Ma-Ma?

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=39960 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=39960)

(http://i.imgur.com/MfKDv.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 20 July, 2012, 06:48:39 PM
Stunning artwork (as usual) by the Staples Droid! Nice find Goaty. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 July, 2012, 06:57:19 PM
Greg's got a bit of a Drew Struzan vibe going on there - which I love.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 20 July, 2012, 07:03:35 PM
That does look very very nice!   :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 20 July, 2012, 07:25:04 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 20 July, 2012, 06:57:19 PM
Greg's got a bit of a Drew Struzan vibe going on there - which I love.
Yep.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 20 July, 2012, 07:48:21 PM
 :o

Yep, that beats Lawman of the Future anyway  ;)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 20 July, 2012, 07:57:34 PM
Lovely stuff. Nice to see the movie PR spilling out into other mediums. I will definitely be purchasing this.  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 20 July, 2012, 08:36:13 PM
Clarification needed. Is this digital-only, or will a physical copy become available? And- how many pages? But nice to see something happening, anyway. Great cover.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 July, 2012, 08:49:27 PM
Did you all see Pete Wells Block in the background :thumbsup:









Neither did I  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 20 July, 2012, 09:16:03 PM
http://www.fandango.com/movie-trailer/dredd-trailer/140053
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 July, 2012, 09:41:59 PM
Good lord, that trailer for a Brave video game in front has an interesting accent...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 20 July, 2012, 09:42:31 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 20 July, 2012, 09:16:03 PM
http://www.fandango.com/movie-trailer/dredd-trailer/140053

They didn't show the part when they were all locked out of the screening.   :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 20 July, 2012, 09:53:40 PM
Nice cover. I don't know what it is exactly. Maybe the splash of red or lack of uniformity but there's definitely a more traditional Megish feel to the background.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 20 July, 2012, 10:10:55 PM
Love the cover. Got a western feel to it, makes me kinda think Dark Tower.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 21 July, 2012, 05:30:31 PM
And yes, Dredd trailer was on before TDKR. Looked brilliant.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 21 July, 2012, 06:07:19 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 21 July, 2012, 05:30:31 PM
And yes, Dredd trailer was on before TDKR. Looked brilliant.

Brilliant. A hell of a lot of people are going to see that trailer then!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 21 July, 2012, 06:18:27 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 21 July, 2012, 06:07:19 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 21 July, 2012, 05:30:31 PM
And yes, Dredd trailer was on before TDKR. Looked brilliant.

Brilliant. A hell of a lot of people are going to see that trailer then!

That is great news! 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 21 July, 2012, 07:43:56 PM
Wasn't in front of TDKR for me  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chris_askham on 21 July, 2012, 08:03:02 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 21 July, 2012, 07:43:56 PM
Wasn't in front of TDKR for me  :(

Me neither, although it is quite heavily promoted with posters and stand-ups in the Nottingham Showcase.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 21 July, 2012, 10:40:23 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 21 July, 2012, 07:43:56 PM
Wasn't in front of TDKR for me  :(

Me either, the bastards!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 July, 2012, 10:42:13 PM
Nice! Someone post high quality images of the trailer!

More clear of Cursed Earth!
(http://i.imgur.com/fEn6q.jpg)

More clear too of Mega City 1
(http://i.imgur.com/z1j3o.jpg)

More detail on Lawsmaster! And Judge Dredd uniform!
(http://i.imgur.com/klEj9.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 21 July, 2012, 10:53:24 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 21 July, 2012, 05:30:31 PM
And yes, Dredd trailer was on before TDKR. Looked brilliant.

I saw TDKR today and no Dredd trailer. I guess it depends on the Theatre.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 22 July, 2012, 08:18:20 AM
I saw TDKR up north, in Runcorn - so hotfoot it up here if you can. They also showed Bourne Legacy right after and it definitely struck me that Dredd looked more different and intriguing than Bourne-with-a-different-face. New compared to all the others actually, which included Expendables 2 - Arnie's 'I'm back!' cracked me up as well as the tiny car bit. I've missed Arnie.

Anyway, my point being that newbies will hopefully catch that 'new' vibe too and get sucked in to see it.

But don't recall seeing posters or stand-ups though. Would have loved to nick a stand-up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 22 July, 2012, 08:35:02 AM
Nice new detailed cursed earth pictures.  What inspired them l wonder? I'm getting a vibe of Blackpool pleasure beach viewed from afar whilst off your head on slo-mo!  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 22 July, 2012, 09:20:58 AM
Quote from: dracula1 on 22 July, 2012, 08:35:02 AM
Nice new detailed cursed earth pictures.  What inspired them l wonder? I'm getting a vibe of Blackpool pleasure beach viewed from afar whilst off your head on slo-mo! :o

Nah, just Blackpool Pleasure beach. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 22 July, 2012, 10:35:30 AM
I saw TDKR last night and the Dredd trailer was on in front of Total Recall.

Looked great on the big screen-it was all I could do not to stand up and yell at everyone in the cinema "See that? That's awesome-go see it!".

I did wear my Dredd t-shirt too for a bit of subliminal plugging.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MattJW on 22 July, 2012, 06:10:16 PM
It's incredible to think now that, just a few short weeks ago, people here were getting a touch angsty because they felt that Dredd wasn't getting enough promotion...! Enter the Comic-Con screening and those days seem like a distant memory!

Was the screening a long-planned ace up the sleeve, I wonder? The film-makers must have felt pretty damn confident that they would get an enthusiastic response.

And there are still seven weeks to go.....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 July, 2012, 06:26:31 PM
Quote from: MattJW on 22 July, 2012, 06:10:16 PM
It's incredible to think now that, just a few short weeks ago, people here were getting a touch angsty because they felt that Dredd wasn't getting enough promotion...


Many were angsty last year for the very same reason.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 July, 2012, 06:40:07 PM
I think the poster was the turning point - I could see why people were still a bit angsty when the fb page was up and still had question mark as the avatar.

As soon as the poster and website hit, it's all been pretty smooth with the trailer, LFCC panel and some sterling work doing the PR for San Diego and the screening over there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 July, 2012, 06:51:55 PM
I am interested to see what they do next, they have to keep the hype now. It was in top 20 IMDb but has dropped to somewhere in top 200 now. Not sure what number exactly.

As I have said before I would love to see some virals further setting up Mega City One for people who have not read Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 July, 2012, 07:53:42 PM
I doubt you'll see much in the short term - TV spots don't really show up until the week before release.

I don't know whether the motion poster would get passed by clearcast or not, you could possibly see that on video posters but there are going to be understandable sensitivities after the horrible events in Colorado.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 July, 2012, 08:00:28 PM
I'm sure they'll have stuff up their sleeve, especially after the SDCC & LFCC receptions. This can only bode well for the creative team concerned and make them want to up the ante as we approach release date!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Albion on 22 July, 2012, 09:17:28 PM
The trailer looked great on an IMAX screen today.  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 23 July, 2012, 12:01:41 AM
No Dredd trailer at the TDKR I saw tonight, pity.Still lots of selfish twats checking the time/their messages or whatever on their mobiles throughout the film ,unbelievable.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 23 July, 2012, 12:20:35 AM
Dredd trailer WAS at a very packed Metrocentre Odeon showing of the Dark Knight tonight. I grinned like s fucking loon throughout, I don't think I'll be able to contain myself come Sept 7th!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 July, 2012, 01:20:25 AM
Did you cheer as my name flashed across the screen Pete  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 23 July, 2012, 08:35:33 AM
Type Dredd into 'news' and the first batch up is..Dark Knight. DARK KNIGHT. DARK KNIGHT. DARK KNIGHT!

They were really smart to push this back and time the marketing so it only clashed with one of the mega-blockbusters. Thankfully Man Of Steel wasn't out this year too, which I thought was actually happening until a few months back.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 23 July, 2012, 10:53:52 AM
I think the timing's smart too. Dredd could have been in the position of having to compete with these blockbusters; instead, it gets to be trailered at these smash hits, and provides some additional (and different) comic-book entertainment for those who are into such things. If Dredd can snare even a small fraction of Spider-Man and Batman fans who didn't even know Dredd existed before, that's a win.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 23 July, 2012, 11:14:43 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 July, 2012, 01:20:25 AM
Did you cheer as my name flashed across the screen Pete  ;)

I was grinning like a loon throughout JB, but I must admit I did a cheer on the inside when I saw it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 23 July, 2012, 01:09:41 PM
went 2 see TDKR on sat night and the room was packed there was the routine group of anoying teens in attendence but when that DREDD trailer hit the screen you cuold hear a pin drop i scaned the room and every 1 was glued 2 the screen man did i get a rush seein that trailer on the big screen roll on september  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Ghastly McNasty on 23 July, 2012, 04:28:38 PM
This might have been answered some where else in the thread - but is there a sexy 2000AD logo in the trailer or at the start of the movie? (for the selected few who have seen it)

Like what Marvel and DC do in there films/trailers.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 July, 2012, 04:39:46 PM
Quote from: Ghastly McNasty on 23 July, 2012, 04:28:38 PM
This might have been answered some where else in the thread - but is there a sexy 2000AD logo in the trailer or at the start of the movie? (for the selected few who have seen it)

Like what Marvel and DC do in there films/trailers.

it's same trailer as out on internet, and why 'sexy'?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 23 July, 2012, 04:53:09 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 23 July, 2012, 12:01:41 AM
No Dredd trailer at the TDKR I saw tonight, pity.Still lots of selfish twats checking the time/their messages or whatever on their mobiles throughout the film ,unbelievable.

The girl sitting next to me kept doing this, eventually I tapped her arm and whispered "give it a rest!".

I got my revenge later by dropping a nasty popcorn fart, I could see her and her boyfriend hitching up their t-shirts to cover their noses.

That'll learn them.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Ghastly McNasty on 23 July, 2012, 05:06:40 PM
Just checked the trailer, no logo on there.  :(

Do you not recall the first time you saw a recent Marvel film and it did that page flicky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH1Ru_6V_Lg&feature=related) thing?  Sexy.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 23 July, 2012, 06:06:25 PM
Quote from: James on 23 July, 2012, 04:53:09 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 23 July, 2012, 12:01:41 AM
No Dredd trailer at the TDKR I saw tonight, pity.Still lots of selfish twats checking the time/their messages or whatever on their mobiles throughout the film ,unbelievable.

The girl sitting next to me kept doing this, eventually I tapped her arm and whispered "give it a rest!".

I got my revenge later by dropping a nasty popcorn fart, I could see her and her boyfriend hitching up their t-shirts to cover their noses.

That'll learn them.
:lol:  like your style.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 23 July, 2012, 06:48:58 PM
Quote from: James on 23 July, 2012, 04:53:09 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 23 July, 2012, 12:01:41 AM
No Dredd trailer at the TDKR I saw tonight, pity.Still lots of selfish twats checking the time/their messages or whatever on their mobiles throughout the film ,unbelievable.
I got my revenge later by dropping a nasty popcorn fart, I could see her and her boyfriend hitching up their t-shirts to cover their noses.

That'll learn them.

HAHAH....you mean - 'I cut my revenge later...'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 23 July, 2012, 07:48:34 PM
Revenge is a carton best served buttered.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 July, 2012, 07:57:31 PM
I'm gonna pop down the pictures tomorrow and see what film they are showing the trailer with and then I'll sort myself a ticket out for a day showing in the week.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 July, 2012, 08:08:31 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 July, 2012, 07:57:31 PM
I'm gonna pop down the pictures tomorrow and see what film they are showing the trailer with and then I'll sort myself a ticket out for a day showing in the week.



Or you could've bought an old 35mm projector and this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DREDD-35mm-Movie-FILM-CELLS-Trailer-Preview-JUDGE-KARL-URBAN-LENA-HEADEY-2012-F1-/251110523867?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a775a83db
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 July, 2012, 09:44:49 PM
Spot on?

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kwq8dco5hys/UAuaMP4tveI/AAAAAAAAA6Q/4AYTHexP2NE/s1600/1734garrybrown.jpg)
(http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/jul12/thirlby2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 23 July, 2012, 09:45:14 PM
Or, cf, for the proper maidstone cinema experience (at least circa whenever it was blair witch 2 came out) you could simply sit in a room by yourself watching a shit, small, screen, then invite a dodgy tramplike man to sit uncomfortably near you while wanking, and to cap it all when it was over (film, not wank), you could employ your wife to pretend to be the cinema staff accosting you with accusations of not having paid for your tickets ("yes, i can see you have tickets, but you didnt pay for them did you!!?")

Id wait for tv if i were you. ;-)

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 July, 2012, 10:12:14 PM
If only my cinema experiences were that good :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 23 July, 2012, 11:46:17 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 July, 2012, 07:57:31 PM
I'm gonna pop down the pictures tomorrow and see what film they are showing the trailer with and then I'll sort myself a ticket out for a day showing in the week.

How will you do that -or am I the one living in an alternate reality where cinema staff know precisely nothing.

They actually know which trailers are showing with which film in your neck of the woods?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 24 July, 2012, 12:16:08 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 23 July, 2012, 09:45:14 PM
Or, cf, for the proper maidstone cinema experience [...] watching a shit, small, screen, then invite a dodgy tramplike man to sit uncomfortably near you while wanking, and to cap it all [...] cinema staff accosting you with accusations of not having paid for your tickets

Sounds suspicously like the Bromley Empire (formerly Canon ABC if I remember correctly) which I made the mistake of visiting to see Harry Potter 5.   The cinema stank of piss, seats were broken and the only other occupants were a coven of teenaged girls who kept giggling during all the serious bits.  Never in my life have a yearned for the commercial heartlessness of multiplex chains.

Mind you, there are a few excellent old-fashioned cinemas around, like the Plaza in Crosby north of Liverpool.  Cheap sweets for the kids and staffed by volunteers.  Lovely atmosphere.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 24 July, 2012, 12:45:27 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 24 July, 2012, 12:16:08 AM
Sounds suspicously like the Bromley Empire (formerly Canon ABC if I remember correctly) which I made the mistake of visiting to see Harry Potter 5.   

That's my local!

Yet to see any fiddling old men although there are sometimes buskers in the shopping area down the road. (Violin, fiddle, get it? Sorry.)

It can be a bit of a dump. The last time I went there was to see The Avengers. Me and my mate had the screen to ourselves, that day.

I went to Beckenham to see Prometheus. The guys there appeared to have the 3D settings wrong at the start so there was a weird doubling thing going on. Thankfully it was sorted out shortly after [spoiler]the pale alien chap swallowed a rather lethal cocktail. I never did quite find out why he did that.[/spoiler]

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 24 July, 2012, 01:06:51 AM
Quote from: Mardroid on 24 July, 2012, 12:45:27 AMI went to Beckenham to see Prometheus. The guys there appeared to have the 3D settings wrong at the start so there was a weird doubling thing going on. Thankfully it was sorted out shortly after [spoiler]the pale alien chap swallowed a rather lethal cocktail. I never did quite find out why he did that.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I think that was to seed the planet with his DNA.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 July, 2012, 01:39:48 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 23 July, 2012, 11:46:17 PM
How will you do that -or am I the one living in an alternate reality where cinema staff know precisely nothing.

They actually know which trailers are showing with which film in your neck of the woods?

Numerous staff from the cinema frequent the comic shop, including one of the projectionists. I shall be asking them on prog day ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 24 July, 2012, 05:34:07 AM
From Paul Leonard-Morgan's Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Paul-Leonard-Morgan):

Dredd 3D soundtrack is off for mastering at Metropolis Studios. Release will be start of September.

Several reviews from the screening the other week noted the impressive soundtrack.

Also Danny Cocke's "Sinister Intent" as used in the trailer can be heard here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dGETezywv4
and on his fantastic album "Verge of Total Chaos"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 24 July, 2012, 07:19:24 AM
Nice find! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklarr on 24 July, 2012, 07:35:05 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 17 July, 2012, 10:24:48 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 17 July, 2012, 10:11:22 PM
Four new photos from KUI. http://karlurbaninternational.tumblr.com/post/27424525584

(http://i.imgur.com/PUofJ.jpg)


I like this photo!  It doesn't get more McMahon than this!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 24 July, 2012, 08:52:48 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 23 July, 2012, 06:48:58 PM
Quote from: James on 23 July, 2012, 04:53:09 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 23 July, 2012, 12:01:41 AM
No Dredd trailer at the TDKR I saw tonight, pity.Still lots of selfish twats checking the time/their messages or whatever on their mobiles throughout the film ,unbelievable.
I got my revenge later by dropping a nasty popcorn fart, I could see her and her boyfriend hitching up their t-shirts to cover their noses.

That'll learn them.

HAHAH....you mean - 'I cut my revenge later...'
Although, a bit of a dirty bomb, though, eh?...what about the other people around you - they'd be engulfed in the stench too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 24 July, 2012, 10:47:19 AM
It's funny reading that feminism post someone referred to earlier, but Dredd really has seemingly nailed that aspect of things, for a comic-book movie. Anderson's uniform is the same as Dredd's, as it should be. She has the potential of being quite a breakout comic-book woman, versus the typically 'sexy'/'helpless' depictions of women in these kinds of movies. Coming after The Avengers, this can only be a good thing (although that movie wasn't entirely free of problems, given its general lack of balance—one woman in the main team and five men).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 24 July, 2012, 11:34:40 AM
The Judge Dredd comics are really extremely good in their depiction of female characters.  Occasional art-droid malfunction aside, the female Judges dress the same as their male counterparts, they do the same jobs, they're equally competent, they play important roles in the plot and they all have distinct and different personalities.  The film version has a much stronger foundation to build on than, say, Avengers, which is basically Joss Whedon struggling valiantly with material that isn't giving him much to work with.  Even so, it's still pretty heartening to hear that the film has carried that through in a way that's faithful to the source comics instead of rewriting the women into more stereotypical roles.

And Karl Urban's very popular with the female sci-fi and fantasy geeks of my acquaintance, what with his roles in Star Trek, LotR and even Xena: Warrior Princess, and a fair chunk of those are also already readers of US superhero comics.  With any luck, between Urban and the good word of mouth Dredd is getting about its female characters, this might be a chance to draw more women readers into checking out the comics.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: malkymac on 24 July, 2012, 12:39:46 PM
My 17 year old son and his mate just came back from spiderman and said that they thought the trailer looking amazing. neither of them have read the comics before but both of them seemed very keen on going to see the movie just after seeing the trailer.

i showed them the violent clip on youtube and both said 'that looks awesome!'.

Hopefully get a few of this demographic going to see the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 24 July, 2012, 01:00:57 PM
Hope his birthday's soon! Either that or you have a relaxed cinema  ;)

My nephew's in the same boat, he's 17 and doesn't really look as though he could pass for more. Not sure how strict they are here with checking, it's not like it's a pub. I could just step up and say "He's 18, creep" I guess  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 July, 2012, 05:02:53 PM
New images in Empire:


(http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/8073/dreddcam4.jpg)



(http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/8073/dreddcam3.jpg)



(http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/8073/dreddcam2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 24 July, 2012, 05:14:47 PM
Did they put their review in there?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 July, 2012, 05:21:23 PM
Mr Soap!! I think that new image in toilet room is [spoiler]spoiler[/spoiler]!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 24 July, 2012, 05:24:26 PM
A nicely epic double page of the bike. I'll have to grab me this issue.

(http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/8073/dreddcam1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 July, 2012, 05:26:01 PM
I don't know the context of the shot so I'm not spoiled.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 24 July, 2012, 05:36:26 PM
How many pages do they have on Dredd?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 24 July, 2012, 06:12:34 PM
Dredd rides a Suzuki,suddenly my old shitty bike seems cooler.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 24 July, 2012, 06:13:12 PM
@Joe & Stan: Thank you for the Empire preview snippets.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 July, 2012, 07:25:19 PM
Here's a bit with Molcher, Tharg, Jock & Greg talk 2000 AD and DREDD

THE DROIDS! (http://www.mtv.com/videos/interview/812345/sdcc-2012-2000-ad-creators.jhtml#id=1689855)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 24 July, 2012, 07:41:44 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 24 July, 2012, 05:02:53 PM
New images in Empire:


(http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/8073/dreddcam4.jpg)



(http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/8073/dreddcam3.jpg)



(http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/8073/dreddcam2.jpg)


Is that the new issue??I've not got mu subscribers copy yet and they said it was under embargo until Thursday!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 24 July, 2012, 07:55:22 PM
Wow, some great pics there!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 25 July, 2012, 12:22:30 PM
Guys, guys, GUYS!!!!!! I've just spent half an hour talking to the lovely Greg Staples (I'm all starstruck!) who was absolutely gushing about the film! He sent me the WIPs for the digital comic which are stunning. He talks about the movie, the cast and the première screening on my blog, ch-ch-ch-ch-ch check it out!

http://2000adcovers.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://2000adcovers.blogspot.co.uk/)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VRfTdfSbW7w/UA8iK8IMI4I/AAAAAAAAEzM/02jbCjli4Qg/s320/2.jpg)

I'm geeking out!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 25 July, 2012, 12:32:46 PM
Nooo! Look how Dredd is holding his gun! The film is ruined!

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 24 July, 2012, 05:02:53 PM
New images in Empire:
(http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/8073/dreddcam3.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 25 July, 2012, 12:44:35 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 July, 2012, 07:25:19 PM
Here's a bit with Molcher, Tharg, Jock & Greg talk 2000 AD and DREDD

THE DROIDS! (http://www.mtv.com/videos/interview/812345/sdcc-2012-2000-ad-creators.jhtml#id=1689855)
Good little vidslug there. Nice (though a bit distracting) backdrop in that studio.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 25 July, 2012, 01:09:47 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 25 July, 2012, 12:22:30 PM
Guys, guys, GUYS!!!!!! I've just spent half an hour talking to the lovely Greg Staples
http://2000adcovers.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://2000adcovers.blogspot.co.uk/)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VRfTdfSbW7w/UA8iK8IMI4I/AAAAAAAAEzM/02jbCjli4Qg/s320/2.jpg)

I'm geeking out!!!

Great interview, lovely art and again, fantastic review of the movie. Thanks, Pete :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 25 July, 2012, 01:33:15 PM
I love that drawing, but can't escape the nagging feeling that it looks like the lawgiver is in Dredds right hand, know what I mean?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 25 July, 2012, 01:50:11 PM
He has two elbows in his left arm.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 25 July, 2012, 02:32:18 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 25 July, 2012, 01:33:15 PM
I love that drawing, but can't escape the nagging feeling that it looks like the lawgiver is in Dredds right hand, know what I mean?

Is Dredd supposed to be left handed? I hadn't really noticed.

But yeah, he does appear to have two elbows. The cropped finished version disguises it a little though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 25 July, 2012, 02:42:37 PM
Judges are trained to be ambidextrous.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 25 July, 2012, 03:22:57 PM
Quote from: Stan on 25 July, 2012, 02:32:18 PM
Is Dredd supposed to be left handed? I hadn't really noticed.

What I meant was that it looks to me that the Lawgiver is further away than his head, not sure why though, almost as if he's holding it across his face, but the angle of the gun itself precludes this. Still think it's awesome though, 100% better than anything I could do.  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 25 July, 2012, 03:25:47 PM
The funny thing is that I originally thought it was in his left hand at first but convinced myself it was in his right until you pointed it out. Not sure how that happened. :-[

'Dredd' star Olivia Thirlby on "majorly badass" role
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a395143/dredd-star-olivia-thirlby-on-majorly-badass-role.html

They should've let her unzip, just a little bit..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 25 July, 2012, 05:12:36 PM
I think it's simply due to how the uniform 'bends' around his arm. Different materials all over the place, so oddness from a certain angle could happen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 25 July, 2012, 05:56:17 PM
He has one elbow and he is drawn with one elbow: it's just the line of that body armour that confuses the eye ( there really doesn't seem to be a whole lot of correlation between what works on film and what works for drawings, is there? ).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 25 July, 2012, 06:58:30 PM
Nah, that's not the uniform. He either didn't notice or got so far into it he couldn't be arsed rubbing it out and starting fresh.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 July, 2012, 08:15:57 PM
Dredd 3D Facebook post this;

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/315354_462307077126479_1499656152_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 25 July, 2012, 09:37:02 PM
Quote from: Stan on 25 July, 2012, 06:58:30 PM
Nah, that's not the uniform. He either didn't notice or got so far into it he couldn't be arsed rubbing it out and starting fresh.

Considering he had a bunch of reference photos, and was then jetting out to SDCC to promote the prog, I think I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, than your dismissive 'couldn't be arsed' comment.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 July, 2012, 09:44:43 PM
I popped into the pictures and the manager said that they are showing the Dredd trailer before that vigilante film on screens 5 & 7. Ask and you shall find out. The trailers change after Friday, so if I don't see it before then I'll have to ask again next week.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 25 July, 2012, 09:46:54 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 25 July, 2012, 09:37:02 PM
Quote from: Stan on 25 July, 2012, 06:58:30 PM
Nah, that's not the uniform. He either didn't notice or got so far into it he couldn't be arsed rubbing it out and starting fresh.

Considering he had a bunch of reference photos, and was then jetting out to SDCC to promote the prog, I think I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, than your dismissive 'couldn't be arsed' comment.

OR..he didn't notice. Considering all the strapping around those pads I would've thought they were designed to not slip around when the joints move, but I'm prepared to eat crow if that's not the case. I don't even see it as a big deal and my first reaction to the pic was positive, as it still is.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 25 July, 2012, 09:53:46 PM
I agree my comment was a tad flippant though, but not meant in a vindictive way. I have respect for any artist who can pull that kind've work off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 25 July, 2012, 10:41:28 PM
Watched Batman tonight and Dredd was in front of it. Was cool to see it on the big screen but the cinema sound system was shit so you couldn't hear a lot of the dialogue and they still had the lights on which ruined the mood slightly. But heard some people saying 'that's another one we'll have to go see' which is good!



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buttonman on 25 July, 2012, 10:51:26 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 July, 2012, 09:44:43 PM
I popped into the pictures and the manager said that they are showing the Dredd trailer before that vigilante film on screens 5 & 7. Ask and you shall find out. The trailers change after Friday, so if I don't see it before then I'll have to ask again next week.

Did you ask if he was getting a standee for his foyer and did you exclusively reveal that you will steal it from under him?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 25 July, 2012, 10:54:59 PM
Burdis IS going to be the standee.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 25 July, 2012, 11:02:42 PM
Quote from: Buttonman on 25 July, 2012, 10:51:26 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 July, 2012, 09:44:43 PM
I popped into the pictures and the manager said that they are showing the Dredd trailer before that vigilante film on screens 5 & 7. Ask and you shall find out. The trailers change after Friday, so if I don't see it before then I'll have to ask again next week.

Did you ask if he was getting a standee for his foyer and did you exclusively reveal that you will steal it from under him?

:lol: :lol:

Boy this going to be fun post Dredd release seeing who can get hold of what from their local mulitplex.Maybe we should introduce a points system... :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 July, 2012, 11:18:03 PM
I did indeed and whatever they get I'll be getting (excellent English there).
I managed to obtain everything from the other film years ago  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 26 July, 2012, 12:01:03 AM
Anyone in Ireland see it in front of any movies, watched Dark Knight here tonight and no Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 26 July, 2012, 12:12:36 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 26 July, 2012, 12:01:03 AM
Anyone in Ireland see it in front of any movies, watched Dark Knight here tonight and no Dredd.

Same here in Cardiff..

..suppose I'll have to see spiderman now  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 26 July, 2012, 01:30:54 AM
The non-subscriber cover to last year's Empire and a new photo of Anderson here:
http://darrens-world-of-entertainment.blogspot.co.nz/2012/07/dredd-stills-released.html

And some high res photos here:
http://sihaycine.com/pelicula.php?id=164
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 26 July, 2012, 02:10:12 AM
Quote
And some high res photos here:
http://sihaycine.com/pelicula.php?id=164 (http://sihaycine.com/pelicula.php?id=164)

You can see Karl's eyes through the visor in the full length shot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 July, 2012, 02:30:21 AM
(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/6610/dreddhead.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 26 July, 2012, 02:48:52 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 July, 2012, 02:30:21 AM
(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/6610/dreddhead.jpg)

His vision isn't all that impaired, after all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 26 July, 2012, 03:00:30 AM
...except half is left eye is completely hidden even, when looking straight ahead. I'm sure it works in the film and itmatters not-a-jot,but in actual 'life' ,- that thing'd make you short-sighted after a month.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jay jay on 26 July, 2012, 03:27:01 AM
could someone posts the links to those images? for some reason they aren't showing up when I open that page.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 26 July, 2012, 04:15:20 AM
Is it just me, or does the helmet look a little 'off' in this picture?

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg7/scaled.php?server=7&filename=dreddwtf2.jpg&res=landing)

:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 26 July, 2012, 05:41:54 AM
His face is not perfectly square to the front and that's why his left eye is slightly covered more than the right one.
Just look at the side of the helmet and you can see there is a little bit more of the black showing by his right cheek, this shows that its slightly out!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 26 July, 2012, 08:05:28 AM
...and the way the light is hitting the helmet makes it look like the one that Stallone wore (without the bits across the eyes).  Apologies to anyone offended by the resurrection of nauseating memories...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 26 July, 2012, 08:17:25 AM
That is the Stallone one
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Psidude on 26 July, 2012, 09:10:17 AM
went to see the TDKR on sunday in newcastle best part of the trip DREDD trailer made my day looked outstanding on big screen cannot wait :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 26 July, 2012, 10:09:43 AM
Having tried on a Planet Replicas one recently (albeit one that was too small) I can confirm the X in front of the eyes does not obscure vision at all.  I could see perfectly. Peripheral vision was affected a bit from the sides of the helmet though,
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 26 July, 2012, 10:41:05 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 26 July, 2012, 08:17:25 AM
That is the Stallone one
Yep, Stallone. Look at the bottom sides...am I missing something, is this a joke?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 26 July, 2012, 10:46:27 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 26 July, 2012, 10:41:05 AM
Yep, Stallone. Look at the bottom sides...am I missing something, is this a joke?

Yes. Notice the little laughing smiley a the bottom of Misanthrope's post. (It's easy to miss.)

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 26 July, 2012, 10:48:31 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 26 July, 2012, 10:41:05 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 26 July, 2012, 08:17:25 AM
That is the Stallone one
Yep, Stallone. Look at the bottom sides...am I missing something, is this a joke?
I see...thought it was a tidy wee bit of character modelling with the wrong heed and not a photo of the real Urban. I'm twice fooled then.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 26 July, 2012, 10:49:41 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 26 July, 2012, 10:46:27 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 26 July, 2012, 10:41:05 AM
Yep, Stallone. Look at the bottom sides...am I missing something, is this a joke?

Yes. Notice the little laughing smiley a the bottom of Misanthrope's post. (It's easy to miss.)

Cheers

Jim
I'm just going to put my foolishness down to a lack of sleep on this occasion, cheers!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 26 July, 2012, 11:15:02 AM
Good line..."His heroism is defined by the fact that he's walking into a building while everybody else is running out."
Read more at http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Castle/news/?a=64541#VdJHj1CEbIQCQJeL.99
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 July, 2012, 11:22:26 AM
Perfect Judge uniform in action!

(http://i.imgur.com/473VH.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 26 July, 2012, 01:40:01 PM
It was just my little joke aimed at people who think that the Stallone helmet is better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 26 July, 2012, 02:33:38 PM
I reckon this helmet works better for the film: but I wouldn't defend it in terms of practicality. Practicality would dictate a Stallone-style visor and a Urban-thickness helmet... and it would be pretty boring.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 26 July, 2012, 02:47:31 PM
Great action picture.

As far as I can tell, the Dredd team have not put a foot wrong...not one. Also...Anderson is likened to Debbie Harry a great deal, seemingly based on her. But there is a panel in the first J Death story when Anderson is driving the skeleton of Death to an apt. It really kinda could be OT in that panel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 July, 2012, 02:47:45 PM
Pete Travis On Dredd Controversy And hints on a possible trilogy...

Listen up perps, Dredd is returning to Mega-City One with a tower block full of crims to deal with and a Stallone aberration to erase from the public consciousness. Happily, rumblings of a troubled collaboration between director Pete Travis and screenwriter Alex Garland on the production have been laid to rest, stopping that famous jaw from clenching just a notch tighter.

For a film with the shooting title 'Peach Trees', things were rumoured to have been pretty drokkin' far from peachy in the editing suite, but the filmmakers are now keen to set the record straight. Empire follows the story in the new issue, speaking to Travis, veteran of Endgame and Vantage Point in recent years, and producer Andrew Macdonald to get the skinny.

"It was all bollocks, really," Travis explains. "Dredd was always an extraordinary collaboration between lots of different people. Alex's interpretation of Dredd's world was the inspiration for me to get involved."

While Travis and Garland collaborated more closely on set than a tradititional director/writer pairing, the film's producers refute rumours that the former was given his marching orders in the editing suite. "I have no idea where that came from," says Macdonald, drawing a parallel with the TV paradigm of writer-as-showrunner. "We stand by the unusual collaboration. Everything was built around the script and the character."

Garland, meanwhile, shares some pointers on where, should Dredd do the requisite box office, a possible trilogy might take Mega-City One's finest. Short answer: outside Mega-City One, because "outside is this desert terrain, The Cursed Earth". And could there be a place in the story for the don of dark judges himself, Judge Death? Find in Empire's September issue.


http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34712 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34712)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 26 July, 2012, 02:51:15 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 26 July, 2012, 01:40:01 PM
It was just my little joke aimed at people who think that the Stallone helmet is better.
And I bought it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 July, 2012, 04:27:37 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 26 July, 2012, 02:33:38 PM
I reckon this helmet works better for the film: but I wouldn't defend it in terms of practicality. Practicality would dictate a Stallone-style visor and a Urban-thickness helmet... and it would be pretty boring.


It's not fully practical to have a tinted visor, either way. Who cares, it's the future.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 26 July, 2012, 05:00:42 PM
If practicality was the be-all and end-all, costumes in film would be very dull.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 26 July, 2012, 05:08:25 PM
No argument there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 26 July, 2012, 06:31:26 PM
I found this unreleased still in the Pete Wells Block Circular Vid Slug. It shows a scene where Anderson does wear a helmet...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/Wellsy/DreddandAnderson.jpg?t=1343323557)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 26 July, 2012, 06:35:53 PM
Look at the Lawgiver, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 26 July, 2012, 06:44:34 PM
Now that's a double whammy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 26 July, 2012, 06:54:22 PM
The Peach Tree Judge visit is ON :D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 26 July, 2012, 07:34:55 PM
CBM has some scans from the new Empire mag.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=64585
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 26 July, 2012, 07:57:50 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 26 July, 2012, 06:54:22 PM
The Peach Tree Judge visit is ON :D :thumbsup:

Excellent!  59c coming right up!

:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 26 July, 2012, 09:14:43 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 26 July, 2012, 07:34:55 PM
CBM has some scans from the new Empire mag.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=64585

I think Dredd's utility belt could do with a refill. It'll be hand to hand combat and harsh language next. Maybe that's why Headey was given the Hans Gruber treatment rather than being capped gangsta style.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 26 July, 2012, 10:32:19 PM
The Urban & Thirlby intro to the comic-con screening!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJxee1po5qY
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 26 July, 2012, 10:40:36 PM
... and Masters of the Web panel too!
Urban, Jock & Staples.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQWbNGx2Cos
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 26 July, 2012, 11:55:22 PM
Bought EMPIRE today -go and buy it -top write up on Dredd and his place in 2000AD.

Excellent article -very pleasing indeed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 July, 2012, 12:37:25 AM
Awesome cover for Dredd in Empire!

(http://i.imgur.com/wcmhu.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 27 July, 2012, 12:40:39 AM
Bloody hell, that's an incredible cover!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 July, 2012, 12:43:22 AM
It's not the cover, it's the centre-spread, particularly he ipad edition.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 27 July, 2012, 12:46:50 AM
It's not the centrespread in the mag. We've been talking about Empire in the thread about Dredd in magazines for 24 hours. You need to keep up  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 July, 2012, 12:47:58 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 27 July, 2012, 12:46:50 AM
It's not the centrespread in the mag. We've been talking about Empire in the thread about Dredd in magazines for 24 hours. You need to keep up  ;)

New post at your thread, sir.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 July, 2012, 12:51:07 AM
It's the double page centre-spread, it falls between pages 76-77. The mag is 162 pages so it's as close as.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 27 July, 2012, 12:52:47 AM
Have they created their own version of the old Judge Dredd logo font for that?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 July, 2012, 12:54:26 AM
Chris Weston drew it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 July, 2012, 01:05:37 AM
The full Dredd Press Pack


(http://2000ad.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/dredd-press-pack.jpg)



Can be downloaded from here: http://dredd.distribucioncinecolombia.com/


Courtesy of ECBT2


MOD EDIT: Be mindful the press pack has plenty of spoilers—including a fairly in-depth breakdown of the entire plot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 July, 2012, 01:06:17 AM
^IT'S FULL OF SPOILERS.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 July, 2012, 01:10:26 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 July, 2012, 01:06:17 AM
^IT'S FULL OF SPOILERS.

I bet you miss the modify edit button... it really should be there after first post!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 July, 2012, 01:13:53 AM
It's up and down like a whore's knickers.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 July, 2012, 01:18:21 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 July, 2012, 01:13:53 AM
It's up and down like a whore's knickers.

;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 27 July, 2012, 12:37:08 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 27 July, 2012, 12:37:25 AM
Awesome cover for Dredd in Empire!

(http://i.imgur.com/wcmhu.jpg)

Have you spotted the little door on Dredd's glove in this hi-res pic! . . . lovely detailed costume design. Any idea's on functionality?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 July, 2012, 01:09:36 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 27 July, 2012, 12:37:08 PM
Have you spotted the little door on Dredd's glove in this hi-res pic! . . . lovely detailed costume design. Any idea's on functionality?



Communicator.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JamesC on 27 July, 2012, 01:13:20 PM
It's gotta be a slide up panel - the tab goes into that recess when it's slid open and then I expect there's a communicator or computer screen of some kind underneath.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 27 July, 2012, 01:20:20 PM
Excellent attention to detail.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 27 July, 2012, 03:24:47 PM
Umpty holder
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 27 July, 2012, 04:06:27 PM
 :lol: or a picture of Stallone sellotaped to his wrist.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 27 July, 2012, 05:09:00 PM
I thought it might be a magnetic plate which he stuck his next magazine to when in a firefight.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 27 July, 2012, 05:12:29 PM
It's a mirror to check if his moustache is growing
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 27 July, 2012, 05:17:56 PM
Grimace template.

If he ever feels it's slipping, he just puts his lips on the pad and the botox kicks in.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 27 July, 2012, 05:20:25 PM
It's a bionic sticker giveaway stuck to his arm from one of the early prog's!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mejustnow on 27 July, 2012, 06:11:34 PM
Just want to duck into this thread again to metaphorically take my hat off to Karl Urban.

I know that doing the press junkets and convention thing is locked tightly into contracts now, but the enthusiasm he's approached this part of his task with, coupled with what seems to be a very natural out-going and affable style, have really helped to push this movie into people's consciousnesses, I think.

OK, I know we're talking about geeks here, and most likely not the wider going cinema audience, but still, I think he's done a stellar job at promoting this flick within the geek community, but more importantly to those geeks who don't know Dredd - or only know that *mumble mumble * 1995.

He comes across as a genuinely nice bloke who has a genuine enthusiasm for this project.

I can't wait to see him taking down those perps!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 27 July, 2012, 06:16:16 PM
Seconded.

The enthusiasm he's shown for the film has really come across.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 July, 2012, 06:23:14 PM
Agreed! He a top bloke!

Brilliant of casting.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: auxlen on 27 July, 2012, 07:23:55 PM
I've never written to an actor before but i was seriously considering it. I've followed this film for years and listened to him answer the same questions over and over with no hint of boredom (which must be present).

Seems like a genuinely good egg.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 27 July, 2012, 11:04:01 PM
Most fans are still waiting to see how Karl Urban's updated take on Judge Dredd works out, but if audiences wind up liking what they see, Urban would be more than happy to dish out more punishment. Asked about a possible sequel for Dredd 3D, Urban responded:

Yeah, absolutely. But you know I just want to say if you know this film is a one-off cult classic, than I'm cool with that because I'm really proud of the film. And we showed it the other night and the audience loved it. And to me that's like, I'm happy. I'm good. If we don't end making more of these, than I'm cool with that because it's all good on my end. If we're fortunate enough if it blows up at the box office, then absolutely I would definitely love to come back and reprise the role and make more of these. I just think there's so much fertile ground to explore within the character and within the world. And I would love to see the continuing story and the evolution of these characters and the relationship between Anderson and Dredd. And it would be interesting to find out more about the world, more about Dredd. It would be really cool to see the Dark Judges. There's so much. And it would be great to – we've seen one aspect, one sector of Mega-City One. It would be great to see other aspects.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 27 July, 2012, 11:21:59 PM
You are all missing out on the reason behind that particular detailing on Dredd's gauntlet- it's a port to let the steam out, surely?

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 27 July, 2012, 11:39:03 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES
The Peach Tree Judge visit is ON :D :thumbsup:

Count me in! (or do I have to get a uniform...?)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 28 July, 2012, 12:18:53 AM
Quote from: auxlen on 27 July, 2012, 07:23:55 PM
...I've ... listened to him answer the same questions over and over with no hint of boredom (which must be present).
Seems like a genuinely good egg.
Yep, I suppose I've never followed a film's marketing and publicity quite as avidly and comprehensively* as this before and I really do find the way that the two main stars continually, (enthusiastically and happily) pimp the good ship Dredd impressive: I always think of famous movie-folk as simply basking in continual adoration,— but when you see all these myriad interviews all together it becomes clear that this is real work, and it must be pretty tiresome work too (after a while), because, no matter how much you believe in the project, a question that you've been asked ten times is a question you've been asked ten times, and yet they always answer like it's the first time they heard it.

Perhaps it's just naivety, but Urban's comments (along the lines of being happy to make one good Dredd film regardless of commercial success) really ring true to me, and the comment he made to Blackmocco:
Quote...Told him it was ****ing awesome and I'd been waiting a long time for this. He told me he'd made the movie just for me...
really rings true to me: I reckon the project has been truly blessed with this choice of actor just as much as the earlier project was cursed with all the baggage that came with Stallone.

I don't think this film is gonna disappoint — but even if it did, I reckon I would continue to be impressed with Mr Urban: top gent.

*Cheers for all the links
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 28 July, 2012, 02:39:57 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 28 July, 2012, 12:18:53 AM
but when you see all these myriad interviews all together it becomes clear that this is real work, and it must be pretty tiresome work too (after a while), because, no matter how much you believe in the project, a question that you've been asked ten times is a question you've been asked ten times, and yet they always answer like it's the first time they heard it.

Well, they are actors  ;) :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 28 July, 2012, 08:51:27 AM
Quote from: auxlen on 27 July, 2012, 07:23:55 PM
I've never written to an actor before but i was seriously considering it. I've followed this film for years and listened to him answer the same questions over and over with no hint of boredom (which must be present).

Seems like a genuinely good egg.

I second this. Do contact details exist? His agent maybe?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 28 July, 2012, 08:54:23 AM
You can try to write him.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118051109?refCatId=13
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 28 July, 2012, 09:44:52 AM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 28 July, 2012, 08:51:27 AM
Quote from: auxlen on 27 July, 2012, 07:23:55 PM
I've never written to an actor before but i was seriously considering it. I've followed this film for years and listened to him answer the same questions over and over with no hint of boredom (which must be present).

Seems like a genuinely good egg.

I second this. Do contact details exist? His agent maybe?

Be sure to cover the envelope in little love hearts and maybe a dab of perfume - it'll help it stand out from the crowd.

;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 28 July, 2012, 11:12:16 AM
Don't forget the knickers
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 28 July, 2012, 11:59:51 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 28 July, 2012, 02:39:57 AM

...Well, they are actors  ;) :D

So was Marlon Brando:http://www.videohippy.com/video/33003/Marlon-Brando-Interview-1965-part-1 (http://www.videohippy.com/video/33003/Marlon-Brando-Interview-1965-part-1)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 28 July, 2012, 07:28:54 PM
Just saw the Dredd trailer at IMAX before Batman, it felt amazing! Encouragingly, the other male in our group (not a comic fan) thought it looked amazing too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 28 July, 2012, 08:56:00 PM
My Batman viewing is next week, almost looking forward to seeing the Dredd trailer more than the main film! :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 28 July, 2012, 09:33:44 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 28 July, 2012, 08:56:00 PM
My Batman viewing is next week, almost looking forward to seeing the Dredd trailer more than the main film! :P

Don't want to rain on your parade ,but it may not be on. I saw TDKR last week, wasn't on ,same with some others on here -depends where you are I guess.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 28 July, 2012, 10:15:50 PM
My first post in this thread later on.......;

But is it definate that Urban IS infact channelling Clint Eastwood for his portrayal of Dredd? :D

Maybe for a sequel they could coax Eastwood to have a cameo as Judge Fargo, and even cast the actor I'd class as 2nd in line to play Dredd Hugh Jackman as Rico?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 28 July, 2012, 10:19:56 PM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 22 June, 2012, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 22 June, 2012, 10:41:39 AM
...and it's definitely not a criticism of the direction either, both of us were delighted with the quality of the trailer....Just thought I'd share it guys and gals.
Dredd Chin
http://www.candykiller.com/extras/dredd.jpg

(http://www.candykiller.com/extras/dredd.jpg)

I haven't seen that image before... Where's it from? I only ask because I just mentioned (in the trailer thread) how in one shot his shoulder pad is very gold. It is here, also.

Just my thought on this and Urban's/dredd's chin in the new film - I have always imagined Dredd abnormally pushing out his chin rather than having a massive fortsyth/jimmy hill chin.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 July, 2012, 10:31:50 PM
Quote from: judgeblake on 28 July, 2012, 10:15:50 PM

Maybe for a sequel they could coax Eastwood to have a cameo as Judge Fargo, and even cast the actor I'd class as 2nd in line to play Dredd Hugh Jackman as Rico?


But they're both clones of the original. Why couldn't Urban play all 3?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 28 July, 2012, 10:32:28 PM
Quote from: judgeblake on 28 July, 2012, 10:15:50 PM
My first post in this thread later on.......;



But is it definate that Urban IS infact channelling Clint Eastwood for his portrayal of Dredd? :D

Maybe for a sequel they could coax Eastwood to have a cameo as Judge Fargo, and even cast the actor I'd class as 2nd in line to play Dredd Hugh Jackman as Rico?

There's a very definite Eastwoodesque vibe to Karl Urban's performance, which just goes to show how well he knows his Dredd, in my opinion.
An actual Eastwood cameo in any subsequent movie would be awesome!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 28 July, 2012, 10:42:15 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 July, 2012, 10:31:50 PM
Quote from: judgeblake on 28 July, 2012, 10:15:50 PM

Maybe for a sequel they could coax Eastwood to have a cameo as Judge Fargo, and even cast the actor I'd class as 2nd in line to play Dredd Hugh Jackman as Rico?


But they're both clones of the original. Why couldn't Urban play all 3?

aaah mindfuck
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 28 July, 2012, 10:49:49 PM
Quote from: judgeblake on 28 July, 2012, 10:15:50 PMMaybe for a sequel they could coax Eastwood to have a cameo as Judge Fargo

That, Sir, is a great idea, even if the immediate precedent is Jack Sparrow/Keef Richards. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 July, 2012, 11:45:41 PM
Maybe have him play Judge Death.

Some kind of flashback cameo as Fargo would be great marketing fodder though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 July, 2012, 11:58:35 PM
I think an Eastwood cameo would cost more than it's worth. He's also nearly 83.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 July, 2012, 12:06:51 AM
Clint could be too old, how about Ron Perlman? (with helmet still cover him)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 July, 2012, 12:10:49 AM
I don't see why, since Fargo would only appear in flashback, Urban can't play him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 29 July, 2012, 12:23:07 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 July, 2012, 11:58:35 PM
I think an Eastwood cameo would cost more than it's worth. He's also nearly 83.

Details, details.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 July, 2012, 12:45:38 AM
You are a devil, aren't you.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 29 July, 2012, 01:16:32 AM
Eastwood said he wouldn't act again after Gran Torino - he's acting again in Trouble with the Curve.
Mind you, I think he was coaxed by a director he has known/ worked with/ likes.

All I ask is that he's in a beginning bit showing Judge Fargo that precedes the film.

Here's my pitch (lol) - for a scene entitled The Father of Justice that would precede and lead into the main body of the film (Dredd sequel) =

Mega City One some time ago before the first film took place - Chief Judge Fargo presides - but he sees his Judges and law system showing cracks and becoming corrupt (Judge Cal could feature?). Somehow he must make an example of himself as a symbol of Justice. In a flashback revealing origins of Rico and Dredd he could be shown to cultivate his own DNA (with secretive Mega City scientists) behind the scenes of a law he felt was becoming corrupt - creating men he hoped he could trust that had his sense of morality to maintain Justice in Mega City One. Fargo calls all Judges together and publicly speaks out against the corrupt Judges and kills several of them in front of the rest of the Judges. Here we could see some Dirty Harry style spiel where Eastwood judges the corrupt Judges sentencing them to death (in a kind of parallel 'do you feel lucky punk'). Although he has maintained Justice within his own Judges and Halls of Justice, he has sacrificed himself and his leadership by murdering and judging his fellow Judges and he is exiled - we then see Eastwood wander off like a 'High Plains Drifter' or a lone gunman into The Cursed Earth - perhaps stopping to sigh and then growl/mutter "I will bring justice to these lawless lands!" (Charlton Heston style) before disappearing into the sand blown Cursed Earth.   

Then cut to an elipses/ montage title sequence with music showing Goodman being sworn in as Chief Judge, A memorial to Judge Fargo erected in the Halls of Justice (I know this is different to the comics) and Fargo's DNA being turned into clones as Rico (Jackman) and Dredd (Urban) are effectively 'born'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 29 July, 2012, 01:25:46 AM
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/modlibertine/fargo2.jpg%5Bimg%5D)http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/modlibertine/fargo1.jpg[/img]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 29 July, 2012, 08:12:16 AM
An Eastwood walk on would be a great way to acknowledge the connection. A friend criticized the trailer saying it sounded like a Clint impression, he didn't know anything about the character.

Especially if Clint parody something of Dirty Harry....getting into an elevator with some creeps for example only to have them dispatched by JD.

I think Fargo etc should be Urban...although I'd like to hear Clint say 'it was not meant to be forever'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 July, 2012, 09:12:38 AM
That would probably be a more sensible type of cameo all round. Less paperwork and a dash of humour. Everyone's happy. Let's get the petition going (after we reach 50 mill). B)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 29 July, 2012, 09:27:06 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 29 July, 2012, 08:12:16 AM...although I'd like to hear Clint say 'it was not meant to be forever'.

Well by the look of the place it's only been a few weeks...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 29 July, 2012, 09:40:35 AM
Fargo dying played by Clint in a flashback cameo or something.

Dreaming but whatever.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 July, 2012, 09:49:59 AM
Off topic news, as there was article in Daily Mail about massive photo call 116 of the biggest names in Hollywood...

Could you guess who there? Our Judge Dredd Karl Urban! (number 16 in the photo)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2179351/Tom-Cruise-Leonardo-DiCaprio-The-103-billion-photo-116-Hollywood-stars-ultimate-photo-call.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2179351/Tom-Cruise-Leonardo-DiCaprio-The-103-billion-photo-116-Hollywood-stars-ultimate-photo-call.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 29 July, 2012, 10:40:57 AM
Urban is number 9.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 29 July, 2012, 10:44:37 AM
Quote from: Stan on 29 July, 2012, 09:12:38 AM
That would probably be a more sensible type of cameo all round. Less paperwork and a dash of humour. Everyone's happy. Let's get the petition going (after we reach 50 mill). B)
Quote from: TordelBack on 29 July, 2012, 09:27:06 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 29 July, 2012, 08:12:16 AM...although I'd like to hear Clint say 'it was not meant to be forever'.
Well by the look of the place it's only been a few weeks...
:)
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 29 July, 2012, 09:40:35 AM
Fargo dying played by Clint in a flashback cameo or something.

Dreaming but whatever.

How do we get that petition going?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 29 July, 2012, 11:06:05 AM
I dunno but I'll sign it.
It would be bloody perfect.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 29 July, 2012, 11:07:17 AM
Just a photo or bust in the Halls of Justice would do it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 July, 2012, 03:27:16 PM
I was taking my niece to see Ice Age 4 at cinema; there is posters there

(http://i.imgur.com/j8JuH.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 29 July, 2012, 03:57:45 PM
My local Vue cinema has it listed as coming soon on the website and lets you register for a ticket alert.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 29 July, 2012, 04:01:54 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 29 July, 2012, 09:40:35 AM
Clint in a flashback cameo or something.

Now, this i'd love to see happen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 29 July, 2012, 04:23:04 PM
I think in the sequels there should be a Nolan-esque - the good the bad and the ugly - sort of 'rule of 3'.
If the sequel focused on the wrangle between dredd and rico (with a 3rd evil guy in the mix - e.g. Cal) then that would be an ideal premise to add a Clint cameo on the beginning as a prologue to the narrative of the movie leading in (as in my "pitch" lol) showing him as Judge Fargo and his dna being used to make clones. I say that it would be great if they could do that in the next movie as I don't think Eastwood has alot in him as he's 83 so in the next few years would be ideal for a clint cameo. Would he do it? - yes! if you had a good team that he would work with, good director, and if Urban and the writers told him abouthow Dredd is sort of derived from Dirty Harry anyway.

Even if Eastwood never does a cameo - as I realise it's a fanboy dream haha - I still think there should be Eastwood homages throughout the coming Dredd sequels. Perhaps Dredd could get shotwithout his body armour on, then reveal he had a kevlar plate of somekind underneath his uniform lol   
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 July, 2012, 04:40:27 PM
There won't be a Clint cameo and it's deservedly Urban's gig to flesh out Dredd & Fargo which is a challenge I'm sure he'd relish and would want to do himself. More importantly, I'd rather they spend the kind of money a big actor's fee would demand on more important things like an improved Lawmaster besides, Eastwood more than likely wouldn't do it.


On a side note: Dirty Harry was an influence but not a prescriptive one. Dredd is a different character and Urban has embodied that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 29 July, 2012, 05:33:38 PM
To be honest I would much rather see Urban taking the roles of any other Bloodline characters. Not only would it give him more to do outside of the difficult Dredd role, it would make more sense and is consistent with the approach taken in the comics. I'm sure Dredd's clone brothers are supposed to be indistinguishable from him except for age.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 29 July, 2012, 05:48:33 PM
Fargo could be played by another actor though being significantly older, and the helmet would do a lot to disguise the differences.

On the other hand ageing make up can sometimes look good. (Although it was rather poor on Guy Pearce in Prometheus.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 29 July, 2012, 06:22:16 PM
Stallone?


I'll get my coat.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 29 July, 2012, 06:36:23 PM
I think it would be better to find someone older to play Fargo - and have KU in any flashbacks.

To be honest, I wouldn't be that arsed if you saw his face, rather than have him helmeted as well, depends how much you need to see him - it could get a bit Austin Powers working around showing it, though it might work having him only shown out of focus or dimly lit.

Obviously if it's successful enough to warrant a sequel - then a lot of the fargophobia, and maybe rico inherited from the Stallone film will be less of a problem.

I would like to see a return of a comic-style Rico - although Titan seems even more of a reach unless the tech is upgraded - a disfigured Rico taking the place of Booth if they're going the Origins route?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 29 July, 2012, 06:42:47 PM
I wonder what the chances would be of an IMAX screening? Or even an IMAX 3D one?

I don't know what the logistics would be of a limited run of IMAX prints for a handful of screenings, I do want to see it in 3D as they've made that aspect such a focus, but at the same time I'd be worried the Real D would actually detract from the experience (I find the darkness of the glasses and the blurriness of the picture pretty much ruins any film I watch in it, whereas I genuinely find it adds an extra layer of immersion in IMAX).

Before I would think there was no chance, as the only IMAX nearby was the Science Center who don't show anything over a 12 certificate, but there's now an Odeon nearby and a Cineworld in Edinburgh and they seem to be showing just about all the upcoming biggies in IMAX. Too much to hope for?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 29 July, 2012, 06:51:30 PM
QuoteI would like to see a return of a comic-style Rico - although Titan seems even more of a reach unless the tech is upgraded

Simple - rewrite the script so the penal colony is in Aspen instead of Titan.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 29 July, 2012, 06:59:05 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 29 July, 2012, 06:36:23 PM
I think it would be better to find someone older to play Fargo - and have KU in any flashbacks.

To be honest, I wouldn't be that arsed if you saw his face, rather than have him helmeted as well, depends how much you need to see him - it could get a bit Austin Powers working around showing it, though it might work having him only shown out of focus or dimly lit.

Obviously if it's successful enough to warrant a sequel - then a lot of the fargophobia, and maybe rico inherited from the Stallone film will be less of a problem.

I would like to see a return of a comic-style Rico - although Titan seems even more of a reach unless the tech is upgraded - a disfigured Rico taking the place of Booth if they're going the Origins route?

well I think its the fanboy in me that would love Clint Eastwood to play Fargo, and have Karl Urban's Dredd and Rico portrayed by Hugh Jackman as humans created from Fargo's DNA. Eastwood wouldn't remove his helmet as Fargo - Urban as Dredd never removes his helmet, and Jackman could remove his as Rico of course...but he looks alot like a younger Eastwood and Urban looks quite abit similar to Jackman imo

I would love to see both a pre titan Rico and a disfigured Rico in a sequel...maybe time travel could be an option - or maybe Rico's story could run as a simmering subplot as he journeys back to Earth to take revenge ravaged and disfigured as Dredd simultaneously hits another big bad guy headon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 July, 2012, 07:12:49 PM
Quote from: radiator on 29 July, 2012, 06:51:30 PM
QuoteI would like to see a return of a comic-style Rico - although Titan seems even more of a reach unless the tech is upgraded

Simple - rewrite the script so the penal colony is in Aspen instead of Titan.


Heh, or just move the prison colony a bit closer to earth by having it on the moon where bent Judges work in labour camps mining Helium 3 for Mega Citiy's Fusion Reactors. There's no way oil reserves could build the Mega Cities.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 July, 2012, 07:24:56 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 29 July, 2012, 06:36:23 PM

Obviously if it's successful enough to warrant a sequel - then a lot of the fargophobia, and maybe rico inherited from the Stallone film will be less of a problem.

I would like to see a return of a comic-style Rico - although Titan seems even more of a reach unless the tech is upgraded - a disfigured Rico taking the place of Booth if they're going the Origins route?



The Rico story only really works as portrayed in the original Return of Rico - a very simple yet moving revenge story of a feud between two 'brothers' that says more about Dredd by doing less. It'd work as a short film or as a simple recollection in a larger story but functioning as a larger plot ruins the simplicity, and we've been down that route before. Anything to do with Rico playing 'the villain', big revenge plots or coups is missing the point of Rico the character.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 29 July, 2012, 07:25:48 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 July, 2012, 07:12:49 PM
Quote from: radiator on 29 July, 2012, 06:51:30 PM
QuoteI would like to see a return of a comic-style Rico - although Titan seems even more of a reach unless the tech is upgraded

Simple - rewrite the script so the penal colony is in Aspen instead of Titan.


Heh, or just move the prison colony a bit closer to earth by having it on the moon where bent Judges work in labour camps mining Helium 3 for Mega Citiy's Fusion Reactors. There's no way oil reserves could build the Mega Cities.

an excellent concept and idea!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 29 July, 2012, 07:33:17 PM
Urban & Thirlby interview on CBR (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=40085)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 July, 2012, 07:34:43 PM
Quote from: judgeblake on 29 July, 2012, 07:25:48 PM

Heh, or just move the prison colony a bit closer to earth by having it on the moon where bent Judges work in labour camps mining Helium 3 for Mega Citiy's Fusion Reactors. There's no way oil reserves could build the Mega Cities.

an excellent concept and idea!
[/quote]


Helium 3 is also used in cryogenics, another important Sci-Fi trope in Dredd history.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 July, 2012, 07:34:56 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 July, 2012, 07:24:56 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 29 July, 2012, 06:36:23 PM

Obviously if it's successful enough to warrant a sequel - then a lot of the fargophobia, and maybe rico inherited from the Stallone film will be less of a problem.

I would like to see a return of a comic-style Rico - although Titan seems even more of a reach unless the tech is upgraded - a disfigured Rico taking the place of Booth if they're going the Origins route?



The Rico story only really works as portrayed in the original Return of Rico - a very simple yet moving revenge story of a feud between two 'brothers' that says more about Dredd by doing less. It'd work as a short film or as a simple recollection in a larger story but functioning as a larger plot ruins the simplicity, and we've been down that route before. Anything to do with Rico playing 'the villain', big revenge plots or coups is missing the point of Rico the character.

Indeed. You'd think the Rico/Fargo stuff could be adequately covered in the origins story Garland was talking about.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 29 July, 2012, 07:40:51 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 July, 2012, 07:24:56 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 29 July, 2012, 06:36:23 PM

Obviously if it's successful enough to warrant a sequel - then a lot of the fargophobia, and maybe rico inherited from the Stallone film will be less of a problem.

I would like to see a return of a comic-style Rico - although Titan seems even more of a reach unless the tech is upgraded - a disfigured Rico taking the place of Booth if they're going the Origins route?



The Rico story only really works as portrayed in the original Return of Rico - a very simple yet moving revenge story of a feud between two 'brothers' that says more about Dredd by doing less. It'd work as a short film or as a simple recollection in a larger story but functioning as a larger plot ruins the simplicity, and we've been down that route before. Anything to do with Rico playing 'the villain', big revenge plots or coups is missing the point of Rico the character.

It's hard to say what Rico has a character because he hasn't really been given the opportunity to develop, apart from the Return of Rico, Blood cadets and cameos here and there, he's not really had much exposure.

I don't agree that making it more involved would ruin the simplicity, they just didn't do it well in the film. I'd want to see something where Rico is more than just an Assante style sociopath, he doesn't have to have any grand schemes, just be able to show why someone of Dredd's stock would go bad, something along the lines of Blood Cadets, whether it's inherent or if it's more comfortable to think it the result of a freak occurrence.

A short film's not a bad idea though, something like the equivalent of 'the connection' where Rico's return leads on to an Origin's style sequel.

So maybe not Booth, but I'd like to see him given another go.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 July, 2012, 07:43:00 PM
Quote from: judgeblake on 29 July, 2012, 06:59:05 PM

well I think its the fanboy in me that would love Clint Eastwood to play Fargo, and have Karl Urban's Dredd and Rico portrayed by Hugh Jackman as humans created from Fargo's DNA. Eastwood wouldn't remove his helmet as Fargo - Urban as Dredd never removes his helmet, and Jackman could remove his as Rico of course...but he looks alot like a younger Eastwood and Urban looks quite abit similar to Jackman imo


I think the way they're going with lesser known and less expensive actors is the way to go. I know that if I see Clint in a Judge Helmet, I'll be thinking more that it's Clint doin' the Clint thing pretending to be a Judge. It's too on the nose for me.

Preferably I'd want Urban to take the challenge of one actor doing both or all. Since we'll only see the lower half of the face, or in shadow, good make-up and subdued lighting shouldn't be too difficult. Anyone who thinks old-age make-up/FX can't be done really well should look at Benjamin Button:

(http://blogs.houstonpress.com/artattack/benbutton.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 July, 2012, 07:54:38 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 29 July, 2012, 07:40:51 PM

It's hard to say what Rico has a character because he hasn't really been given the opportunity to develop, apart from the Return of Rico, Blood cadets and cameos here and there, he's not really had much exposure.

I don't agree that making it more involved would ruin the simplicity, they just didn't do it well in the film. I'd want to see something where Rico is more than just an Assante style sociopath, he doesn't have to have any grand schemes, just be able to show why someone of Dredd's stock would go bad, something along the lines of Blood Cadets, whether it's inherent or if it's more comfortable to think it the result of a freak occurrence.


I think part of the attraction of Rico -and also reveals insight into the stubbornness of the bloodline trait- is that after 20 years he just wants revenge on Joe to prove a point of being better, nothing else, that would make for a pretty small personal film and certainly not the story you'd want if you want a bigger sequel with a bigger story which I believe is the intention. As a small recollection or short prequel it's fine but not as the main thrust of narrative.






For a greater bloodline/Mega-City story: Eustace Fargo and/or Morton Judd are the men for that story.









Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 July, 2012, 07:55:41 PM
Fuck those quotes above.


Quote from: Steve Green on 29 July, 2012, 07:40:51 PM

It's hard to say what Rico has a character because he hasn't really been given the opportunity to develop, apart from the Return of Rico, Blood cadets and cameos here and there, he's not really had much exposure.

I don't agree that making it more involved would ruin the simplicity, they just didn't do it well in the film. I'd want to see something where Rico is more than just an Assante style sociopath, he doesn't have to have any grand schemes, just be able to show why someone of Dredd's stock would go bad, something along the lines of Blood Cadets, whether it's inherent or if it's more comfortable to think it the result of a freak occurrence.


I think part of the attraction of Rico -and also reveals insight into the stubbornness of the bloodline trait- is that after 20 years he just wants revenge on Joe to prove a point of being better, nothing else, that would make for a pretty small personal film and certainly not the story you'd want if you want a bigger sequel with a bigger story which I believe is the intention. As a small recollection or short prequel it's fine but not as the main thrust of narrative.






For a greater bloodline/Mega-City story: Eustace Fargo and/or Morton Judd are the men for that story.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strangelysaucy on 29 July, 2012, 08:00:39 PM
does anyone have a copy of the presspack they'd be willing to email me? I've missed the boat on that link by the looks of it :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 July, 2012, 08:08:33 PM
Thanks for the reminder. I keep meaning to check out the Quicktime vid..

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 July, 2012, 01:05:37 AM
The full Dredd Press Pack


(http://2000ad.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/dredd-press-pack.jpg)



Can be downloaded from here: http://dredd.distribucioncinecolombia.com/


Courtesy of ECBT2


MOD EDIT: Be mindful the press pack has plenty of spoilers—including a fairly in-depth breakdown of the entire plot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 July, 2012, 08:09:34 PM
"400 - Bad Request"

Nooooooooooooooooo!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 July, 2012, 08:11:04 PM
Message me your email. I still have the press pack zip.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 29 July, 2012, 08:19:45 PM
Moving the penile colony to the moon is a bad and unscientific idea, as everyone knows due to the lack of gravy, you can just leap off the moon and fly back to earth. What use a judicial colony where prisoners were forever escargot by jumble sale? I think they should avoid all mention of richard and anything even tenuously linked to the stalking movie, and go in a completely difficult directive. Less richard in the cupped earth/ angry gang, and more new idiots please!

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 29 July, 2012, 08:21:13 PM
Your phone is a treasure, SBT!

Occurs that you could do a fantastic pre-credits/opening sequence with Urban as Fargo or Rico where you don't know he isn't Dredd until a critical moment.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 29 July, 2012, 08:22:25 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 29 July, 2012, 08:19:45 PM
Moving the penile colony to the moon is a bad and unscientific idea, as everyone knows due to the lack of gravy, you can just leap off the moon and fly back to earth. What use a judicial colony where prisoners were forever escargot by jumble sale? I think they should avoid all mention of richard and anything even tenuously linked to the stalking movie, and go in a completely difficult directive. Less richard in the cupped earth/ angry gang, and more new idiots please!

SBT

Heh, I think I remember seeing that post on The Two Ronnies once.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 July, 2012, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 29 July, 2012, 08:21:13 PM
Occurs that you could do a fantastic pre-credits/opening sequence with Urban as Fargo or Rico where you don't know he isn't Dredd until a critical moment.



The original Rico story played a variation of the trick with Rico at the vid-phone.


(http://www.2000ad.org/images/strips/rico2.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 29 July, 2012, 08:36:50 PM
Apologies, a crap gag about jumping off the moon was ruined even further by the predictive sex and 'next word' functions both being on for some reason, and me naughtily texting a response while having a conversation at work. Basically, id rather no rico/ cursed ears/ angry gang, and new ideas instead, so as not to inadvertently recall the stallone movie.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 July, 2012, 08:41:05 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 29 July, 2012, 08:36:50 PM
Apologies, a crap gag about jumping off the moon was ruined even


I wouldn't say that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Greg M. on 29 July, 2012, 08:45:37 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 29 July, 2012, 08:19:45 PM
What use a judicial colony where prisoners were forever escargot by jumble sale?

You are the reincarnation of Stanley Unwin, and I claim my five pounds.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 29 July, 2012, 09:02:57 PM
I agree with SBT (I think!) I'd steer clear of Rico all together, too close to the Stallone tripe. There are a million other ideas to explore!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 July, 2012, 09:18:16 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 29 July, 2012, 09:02:57 PM
I agree with SBT (I think!) I'd steer clear of Rico all together, too close to the Stallone tripe. There are a million other ideas to explore!

The growing notion that they seem to have gotten over the biggest hurdle of making another film with a character called Judge Dredd - the biggest concern - in it should give confidence, if successful, that a character called Rico could make an appearance too. As long as Rico's not the main antagonist or someone whomthe plot revolves around I see no problem with his story making an appearance or acting as a short prequel for marketing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 29 July, 2012, 09:34:09 PM
They could skip to introduce Rico as Dredd's clone son/brother who gradually goes bad by the end of the movie. You could tell several recurring Dredd themes there. The Cadet Final Evaluation, Rico slowing going bad, and the final showdown.

Maybe even start the movie in the future telling the Return of Rico story. Then after Dredd guns Rico down, tell Rico and his connection to Dredd in flashback for the rest of the movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 29 July, 2012, 09:57:21 PM
Sequel Centre on Vienna being at risk... Rico as back story, he is still alive on Titan perhaps.  Then maybe third film, Rico comes back to Earth...

Or do all the Rico story as flash-back with things being centered around Joe/Vienna relationship.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 29 July, 2012, 10:35:44 PM
Rico uses his DNA to lure Dredd and co into a trap, with Dredd believing the DNA to be that of Fargo.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 29 July, 2012, 10:49:59 PM
Perhaps Rico could use his DNA to make everyone think Dredd had committed a murder of some popular figure - a news presenter or journalist or something?  Then Dredd could be disgraced in a trumped up trial and sent to Aspen, where he bumps into someone he recently arrested.  Somehow they escape, maybe via some crazy Cursed Earth gang shooting down the penal ship, and after many daring escapades Dredd confronts Rico, wipes out a clone bank, and throws his brother from the top of something tall.

You know, something like that...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 29 July, 2012, 10:59:40 PM
I keep on comparing Dredd with Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy - but only because of Nolan's mastery of the sci fi anti hero genre in the 1st 2 films of his trilogy. Nolan explore's the varying characters' motivations that they're coming from, and their differing moralities. Batman a right wing masked hero, Joker the anarchic almost nihilistic pyschotic and anti-establishment, and two-face a guy who had set morals but became warped and twisted throught TDK until he became obsessively focused on revenge and the role of fate. If I can compare that to a potential Dredd sequel; Fargo could set the tone as the ultimate moral progenitor of Justice perhaps sacrificing his life of liberty for justice, Dredd and Rico can be shown to come from his DNA but one is a right wing morally Just Judge, and Rico is like the other half of the same coin, he has wandered off the path of justice set out to him due to fate and his subsequent criminal decisions. Rico could therefore playout like Dent/Two Face in TDKR finally turning up at the end of the movie disfigured after his stay on Titan, and seeking revenge.

Quote from: Steve Green on 29 July, 2012, 07:40:51 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 July, 2012, 07:24:56 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 29 July, 2012, 06:36:23 PM

Obviously if it's successful enough to warrant a sequel - then a lot of the fargophobia, and maybe rico inherited from the Stallone film will be less of a problem.

I would like to see a return of a comic-style Rico - although Titan seems even more of a reach unless the tech is upgraded - a disfigured Rico taking the place of Booth if they're going the Origins route?



The Rico story only really works as portrayed in the original Return of Rico - a very simple yet moving revenge story of a feud between two 'brothers' that says more about Dredd by doing less. It'd work as a short film or as a simple recollection in a larger story but functioning as a larger plot ruins the simplicity, and we've been down that route before. Anything to do with Rico playing 'the villain', big revenge plots or coups is missing the point of Rico the character.

It's hard to say what Rico has a character because he hasn't really been given the opportunity to develop, apart from the Return of Rico, Blood cadets and cameos here and there, he's not really had much exposure.

I don't agree that making it more involved would ruin the simplicity, they just didn't do it well in the film. I'd want to see something where Rico is more than just an Assante style sociopath, he doesn't have to have any grand schemes, just be able to show why someone of Dredd's stock would go bad, something along the lines of Blood Cadets, whether it's inherent or if it's more comfortable to think it the result of a freak occurrence.

A short film's not a bad idea though, something like the equivalent of 'the connection' where Rico's return leads on to an Origin's style sequel.

So maybe not Booth, but I'd like to see him given another go.

Assante was given a scripted villain rather than Rico and so gave the cliched pantomime villain evil for evil's sake - same as Stallone didn't really play Dredd, he played the scripted action hero.
In a sequel I'd have Rico offset by another villain as Rico's story rumbles through the film quietly simmering as he plots his revenge and then finally turns up confronting Dredd.   
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 29 July, 2012, 11:17:43 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 29 July, 2012, 08:36:50 PM
Apologies, a crap gag about jumping off the moon was ruined even further by the predictive sex and 'next word' functions both being on for some reason, and me naughtily texting a response while having a conversation at work. Basically, id rather no rico/ cursed ears/ angry gang, and new ideas instead, so as not to inadvertently recall the stallone movie.

SBT

on the contrary; I think they should take stuffed misused and mis-adapted in the first movie and use references to the comics properly in a good script e.g. writing the Rico character properly etc

Quote from: Bat King on 29 July, 2012, 09:57:21 PM
Sequel Centre on Vienna being at risk... Rico as back story, he is still alive on Titan perhaps.  Then maybe third film, Rico comes back to Earth...

Or do all the Rico story as flash-back with things being centered around Joe/Vienna relationship.

for some reason I'd dislike the use of a 'save/protect Vienna' plot in a sequel - mainly, I think, because it reminds me too much of Last Action Hero lol :P

Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 29 July, 2012, 10:49:59 PM
Perhaps Rico could use his DNA to make everyone think Dredd had committed a murder of some popular figure - a news presenter or journalist or something?  Then Dredd could be disgraced in a trumped up trial and sent to Aspen, where he bumps into someone he recently arrested.  Somehow they escape, maybe via some crazy Cursed Earth gang shooting down the penal ship, and after many daring escapades Dredd confronts Rico, wipes out a clone bank, and throws his brother from the top of something tall.

You know, something like that...

I don't think it should be so calculated on Rico's behalf - I think Rico should be shown to fall from glory, maybe making a few bad decisions and fatefully immoral acts in the name of what he thought was right - then Dredd convicts him and Rico is sent to Titan - ultimately turning up disfigured and seeking bloody revenge.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 29 July, 2012, 11:35:20 PM
Maybe Rico can become Judge Death!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 29 July, 2012, 11:50:38 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 29 July, 2012, 10:49:59 PM
Perhaps Rico could use his DNA to make everyone think Dredd had committed a murder of some popular figure - a news presenter or journalist or something?  Then Dredd could be disgraced in a trumped up trial and sent to Aspen, where he bumps into someone he recently arrested.  Somehow they escape, maybe via some crazy Cursed Earth gang shooting down the penal ship, and after many daring escapades Dredd confronts Rico, wipes out a clone bank, and throws his brother from the top of something tall.

You know, something like that...

And this is why I rarely post on here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 July, 2012, 11:54:41 PM
You've got to admit, that sounds like a winner.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 30 July, 2012, 03:05:54 AM
I also forgot to mention yesterday, there's a full-on shot of the eagle in Empire. Small pic but kinda cool.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 July, 2012, 10:21:21 AM
Quote from: Stan on 30 July, 2012, 03:05:54 AM
I also forgot to mention yesterday, there's a full-on shot of the eagle in Empire. Small pic but kinda cool.
Yep the iPad scanned image in another thread about Empire feature.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 30 July, 2012, 10:32:02 AM
Bought the Empire mag yesterday.. The guy they're describing (Jason From Fabrication) is never going to let us forget he was named in it  :(.. The only possible saving grace is that they say he's ginger, when he's not..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 30 July, 2012, 11:16:22 AM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 29 July, 2012, 11:50:38 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 29 July, 2012, 10:49:59 PM
Perhaps Rico could use his DNA to make everyone think Dredd had committed a murder of some popular figure - a news presenter or journalist or something?  Then Dredd could be disgraced in a trumped up trial and sent to Aspen, where he bumps into someone he recently arrested.  Somehow they escape, maybe via some crazy Cursed Earth gang shooting down the penal ship, and after many daring escapades Dredd confronts Rico, wipes out a clone bank, and throws his brother from the top of something tall.

You know, something like that...


And this is why I rarely post on here.


I aim to please.  But failing that, driving people away will have to do.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 30 July, 2012, 11:50:57 AM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 29 July, 2012, 11:50:38 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 29 July, 2012, 10:49:59 PM
Perhaps Rico could use his DNA to make everyone think Dredd had committed a murder of some popular figure - a news presenter or journalist or something?  Then Dredd could be disgraced in a trumped up trial and sent to Aspen, where he bumps into someone he recently arrested.  Somehow they escape, maybe via some crazy Cursed Earth gang shooting down the penal ship, and after many daring escapades Dredd confronts Rico, wipes out a clone bank, and throws his brother from the top of something tall.

You know, something like that...
And how about erm sly stalone as dredd what could go wrong  :lol:
And this is why I rarely post on here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 30 July, 2012, 12:19:45 PM
Quote from: hazy efc on 30 July, 2012, 11:50:57 AM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 29 July, 2012, 11:50:38 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 29 July, 2012, 10:49:59 PM
Perhaps Rico could use his DNA to make everyone think Dredd had committed a murder of some popular figure - a news presenter or journalist or something?  Then Dredd could be disgraced in a trumped up trial and sent to Aspen, where he bumps into someone he recently arrested.  Somehow they escape, maybe via some crazy Cursed Earth gang shooting down the penal ship, and after many daring escapades Dredd confronts Rico, wipes out a clone bank, and throws his brother from the top of something tall.

You know, something like that...
And how about erm sly stalone as dredd what could go wrong  :lol:
And this is why I rarely post on here.

AHHIIII AAUMM......DAA LUUURRGGGHHH




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 30 July, 2012, 02:20:50 PM
New photo from Supanova Pop Culture Expo (http://www.supanova.com.au/) here:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151083378577360
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 July, 2012, 02:41:09 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 30 July, 2012, 02:20:50 PM
New photo from Supanova Pop Culture Expo (http://www.supanova.com.au/) here:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151083378577360

(http://i.imgur.com/czLin.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 30 July, 2012, 03:15:09 PM
Very atmospheric. I like that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 30 July, 2012, 04:06:57 PM
Damn, that's nice!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 30 July, 2012, 04:47:49 PM
Tis a grand piccie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 30 July, 2012, 04:56:39 PM
Quote from: judgeblake on 29 July, 2012, 10:59:40 PM
I keep on comparing Dredd with Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy - but only because of Nolan's mastery of the sci fi anti hero genre in the 1st 2 films of his trilogy. Nolan explore's the varying characters' motivations that they're coming from, and their differing moralities. Batman a right wing masked hero, Joker the anarchic almost nihilistic pyschotic and anti-establishment, and two-face a guy who had set morals but became warped and twisted throught TDK until he became obsessively focused on revenge and the role of fate. If I can compare that to a potential Dredd sequel; Fargo could set the tone as the ultimate moral progenitor of Justice perhaps sacrificing his life of liberty for justice, Dredd and Rico can be shown to come from his DNA but one is a right wing morally Just Judge, and Rico is like the other half of the same coin, he has wandered off the path of justice set out to him due to fate and his subsequent criminal decisions. Rico could therefore playout like Dent/Two Face in TDKR finally turning up at the end of the movie disfigured after his stay on Titan, and seeking revenge.


The Realism and drama of the Batman films work for that franchise but its just not something that I want to see in Dredd. There's a danger that you can be caught up in the dramatic self importance of your story and its characters, to be honest the Nolan approach just bores me after a while.

The films that endure for me are the ones that can tell a good story whilst simultaneously entertaining us with great action, such as Raiders of The Lost Ark, which I don't think has been surpassed by any block buster since its release.

I think the makers of Dredd are correct in their original approach to the character. If there's one thing you can say about the Judge Dredd comics is that there is always a good balance of character and exciting plot.

Maybe Nolan can learn a thing or two about story telling.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 30 July, 2012, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 30 July, 2012, 11:16:22 AM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 29 July, 2012, 11:50:38 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 29 July, 2012, 10:49:59 PM
Perhaps Rico could use his DNA to make everyone think Dredd had committed a murder of some popular figure - a news presenter or journalist or something?  Then Dredd could be disgraced in a trumped up trial and sent to Aspen, where he bumps into someone he recently arrested.  Somehow they escape, maybe via some crazy Cursed Earth gang shooting down the penal ship, and after many daring escapades Dredd confronts Rico, wipes out a clone bank, and throws his brother from the top of something tall.

You know, something like that...


And this is why I rarely post on here.


I aim to please.  But failing that, driving people away will have to do.

Fuck off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 30 July, 2012, 06:02:38 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 30 July, 2012, 04:56:39 PM
Maybe Nolan can learn a thing or two about story telling.

As good as Nolan is I get the feeling his films are just incredibly shiny puddles. fantastic to look at but not very deep. Even Inception wasn't half as clever as many people make out. /offtopic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 30 July, 2012, 06:12:26 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 30 July, 2012, 10:21:21 AM
Quote from: Stan on 30 July, 2012, 03:05:54 AM
I also forgot to mention yesterday, there's a full-on shot of the eagle in Empire. Small pic but kinda cool.
Yep the iPad scanned image in another thread about Empire feature.

Danke. Now I don't have to buy it.

But I will anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 30 July, 2012, 06:20:01 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 29 July, 2012, 08:19:45 PM
Moving the penile colony to the moon is a bad and unscientific idea, as everyone knows due to the lack of gravy, you can just leap off the moon and fly back to earth. What use a judicial colony where prisoners were forever escargot by jumble sale? I think they should avoid all mention of richard and anything even tenuously linked to the stalking movie, and go in a completely difficult directive. Less richard in the cupped earth/ angry gang, and more new idiots please!

SBT

This post (and it's mis-spelt follow up) are one of the funniest things I've read in ages, and now we have every time I read Angel Gang I'm going to read it as Angry Gang.

Arsegike, arsom, and now the Angry gang. Grrr.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 30 July, 2012, 06:41:38 PM
Quote from: James on 30 July, 2012, 06:20:01 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 29 July, 2012, 08:19:45 PM
Moving the penile colony to the moon is a bad and unscientific idea, as everyone knows due to the lack of gravy, you can just leap off the moon and fly back to earth. What use a judicial colony where prisoners were forever escargot by jumble sale? I think they should avoid all mention of richard and anything even tenuously linked to the stalking movie, and go in a completely difficult directive. Less richard in the cupped earth/ angry gang, and more new idiots please!

SBT

lol well I thought it was so funny I was sure it was infact intentional randomness lol
This post (and it's mis-spelt follow up) are one of the funniest things I've read in ages, and now we have every time I read Angel Gang I'm going to read it as Angry Gang.

Arsegike, arsom, and now the Angry gang. Grrr.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 30 July, 2012, 07:07:38 PM
SFX nudged us over the 7 mark...
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd_3d/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 30 July, 2012, 07:13:57 PM
Quote from: Stan on 30 July, 2012, 07:07:38 PM
SFX nudged us over the 7 mark...
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd_3d/

Lovely.  I know there's a long way to go yet, but I would never have expected to see a spread like that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 July, 2012, 07:47:38 PM
DREDD 3D To Premiere At This Year's Fantastic Fest


Austin, TX -- Monday, July 30, 2012 -- Judgement is coming to Fantastic Fest with the red carpet premiere of DREDD 3D and the festival's initial lineup of incredible genre films. Fantastic Fest will take place September 20-27 in Austin, Texas at the Alamo Drafthouse South Lamar.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 30 July, 2012, 08:20:14 PM
I think that's Alex Jones's local. I wonder if he'll continue his trend of reviewing upcoming films and set his sights on Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 July, 2012, 08:21:07 PM
It could do with the publicity.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 30 July, 2012, 08:36:58 PM
I posed the question on his 'Ask Alex' page. Let's hope.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 30 July, 2012, 10:44:34 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 30 July, 2012, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 30 July, 2012, 11:16:22 AM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 29 July, 2012, 11:50:38 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 29 July, 2012, 10:49:59 PM
Perhaps Rico could use his DNA to make everyone think Dredd had committed a murder of some popular figure - a news presenter or journalist or something?  Then Dredd could be disgraced in a trumped up trial and sent to Aspen, where he bumps into someone he recently arrested.  Somehow they escape, maybe via some crazy Cursed Earth gang shooting down the penal ship, and after many daring escapades Dredd confronts Rico, wipes out a clone bank, and throws his brother from the top of something tall.

You know, something like that...


And this is why I rarely post on here.


I aim to please.  But failing that, driving people away will have to do.

Fuck off.

So..the sense of humour bypass was a complete success then?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 30 July, 2012, 11:38:36 PM
Quote from: Stan on 30 July, 2012, 07:07:38 PM
SFX nudged us over the 7 mark...
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd_3d/

Don't you mean 9?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 30 July, 2012, 11:39:41 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 30 July, 2012, 10:44:34 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 30 July, 2012, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 30 July, 2012, 11:16:22 AM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 29 July, 2012, 11:50:38 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 29 July, 2012, 10:49:59 PM
Perhaps Rico could use his DNA to make everyone think Dredd had committed a murder of some popular figure - a news presenter or journalist or something?  Then Dredd could be disgraced in a trumped up trial and sent to Aspen, where he bumps into someone he recently arrested.  Somehow they escape, maybe via some crazy Cursed Earth gang shooting down the penal ship, and after many daring escapades Dredd confronts Rico, wipes out a clone bank, and throws his brother from the top of something tall.

You know, something like that...


And this is why I rarely post on here.


I aim to please.  But failing that, driving people away will have to do.

Fuck off.

So..the sense of humour bypass was a complete success then?

Hey, it's cool.  My posts in hindsight do seem a bit facetious.  No offence meant - I was just messing about.  Apologies all round. Me and Misanthrope have had a quick PM chat, and we're good.  Please ignore the wee exchange above.

Let's get back to Dredd!  Is anyone able to create a BB code counter to put in a sig?  You know 'Judgement is coming in X days' or something?  I really think we need a countdown!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 31 July, 2012, 01:32:09 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 30 July, 2012, 11:38:36 PM
Quote from: Stan on 30 July, 2012, 07:07:38 PM
SFX nudged us over the 7 mark...
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd_3d/

Don't you mean 9?

Sorry, I meant the rating. I'm sure it was on 6.9 last time I checked.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 July, 2012, 01:47:16 AM
Would that be a countdown for all territory's or just Great Britain ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 31 July, 2012, 07:15:32 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 July, 2012, 01:47:16 AM
Would that be a countdown for all territory's or just Great Britain ;)

You know, it's very selfish of me, but I was just thinking of the Sept 7th release date.  I forgot other countries are having to wait longer!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 31 July, 2012, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: Stan on 31 July, 2012, 01:32:09 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 30 July, 2012, 11:38:36 PM
Quote from: Stan on 30 July, 2012, 07:07:38 PM
SFX nudged us over the 7 mark...
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd_3d/

Don't you mean 9?

Sorry, I meant the rating. I'm sure it was on 6.9 last time I checked.

Ah got ya! I still don't get how there is a rating out of 10, but RT only has a 5 star system?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 31 July, 2012, 10:14:17 PM
QuoteSo..the sense of humour bypass was a complete success then?

Yes.

Fuck off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: a chosen rider on 31 July, 2012, 11:00:13 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 31 July, 2012, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: Stan on 31 July, 2012, 01:32:09 AMSorry, I meant the rating. I'm sure it was on 6.9 last time I checked.

Ah got ya! I still don't get how there is a rating out of 10, but RT only has a 5 star system?

The 7.2/10 is based on the ratings given in the external reviews, which all have their own different systems.  Some of them are out of five, some of them are out of ten, and one of them's a B-.  I guess the Rotten Tomatoes site converts all the different scores into an equivalent value out of ten to get an average.

The five star system is for site users to give their own personal rating, (though I assume that doesn't go live until the film's actually out).  If you look at the results for Dark Knight Rises here (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_dark_knight_rises/), you can see on the left it's got 8/10 from the critics and on the right it's got 4.5/5 from the audience.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 01 August, 2012, 03:21:57 AM
Just read that Dredd is getting shown at the Toronto Film Festival early next month! The specific date hasn't been announced yet and not sure what the deal is with tickets (it might be an industry thing so harder for Joe Public to get in) but hopefully I'll get to see it a bit sooner than expected!

http://tiff.net/filmsandschedules/tiff/2012/dredd (http://tiff.net/filmsandschedules/tiff/2012/dredd)
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/57361 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/57361)

Martin McDonagh's (In Bruges) new film is being shown in there too!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 August, 2012, 03:36:00 AM
I read it was the 6th :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 01 August, 2012, 05:49:39 AM
I just found out why it will take so extreme longer in my country until Dredd will come out.
They will cut it down to 88min, and Age:16....
I am very.very.very.very disappointed... *biting teeth and leaving*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 01 August, 2012, 07:03:24 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 01 August, 2012, 03:21:57 AM
Just read that Dredd is getting shown at the Toronto Film Festival early next month! The specific date hasn't been announced yet and not sure what the deal is with tickets (it might be an industry thing so harder for Joe Public to get in) but hopefully I'll get to see it a bit sooner than expected!

http://tiff.net/filmsandschedules/tiff/2012/dredd (http://tiff.net/filmsandschedules/tiff/2012/dredd)
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/57361 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/57361)

Martin McDonagh's (In Bruges) new film is being shown in there too!

Toronto was where The Raid made such a big splash and generated positive word of mouth last year .
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 August, 2012, 07:17:20 AM
Yeah and The Raid got $4 Million American Box Office!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 01 August, 2012, 08:11:12 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 01 August, 2012, 07:17:20 AM
Yeah and The Raid got $4 Million American Box Office!

Relatively speaking that's a pretty great number for a foreign-language film with very limited distribution. Dredd will have better distribution through Lionsgate so should (!) do better in pure box office.

P.T. Anderson's new film The Master has also been scheduled for a Sept 14th/21st release now too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 01 August, 2012, 08:34:11 AM
Also $4 million in the US alone (not incl. the rest of the world) is four times the films budget, an impressive feat and one most big-budget films would struggle to deliver! I don't think it's really fair to compare the films on pure box office without taking into account no. of screens; the most screens The Raid played on for one week was something like 800, every other week it was a lot less; TDKR is playing on 3500+ for about a month straight in comparison! I presume Dredd will be somewhere in the middle of those two extremes; it may make more money but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's more profitable or successful.

Hopefully it will be. I don't think it's a competition between the two anyway. The only film the comparisons are likely to damage is the mooted English-language remake of The Raid!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 01 August, 2012, 08:54:59 AM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 01 August, 2012, 05:49:39 AM
I just found out why it will take so extreme longer in my country until Dredd will come out.
They will cut it down to 88min, and Age:16....
I am very.very.very.very disappointed... *biting teeth and leaving*

Woah, that's poor.  Bad luck, KUI.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 August, 2012, 09:03:09 AM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 01 August, 2012, 05:49:39 AM
I just found out why it will take so extreme longer in my country until Dredd will come out.
They will cut it down to 88min, and Age:16....
I am very.very.very.very disappointed... *biting teeth and leaving*

Know what that's means? Time to plan to visit the nearest where it got uncut Dredd!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 01 August, 2012, 09:37:53 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 01 August, 2012, 08:34:11 AM
Hopefully it will be. I don't think it's a competition between the two anyway. The only film the comparisons are likely to damage is the mooted English-language remake of The Raid!

The idea of anyone remaking The Raid saddens me, there's no way anyone will recapture what made that film great.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 August, 2012, 11:10:52 AM
Good article of Comic Book Recourses interview with John Wagner about 35 years of Judge Dredd, Strontium Dog, and DREDD 3D.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=40172 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=40172)

You recently got a chance to see "DREDD." How do you rate it?

Here's what I said on my Facebook page:

"I went up to London yesterday to see the completed 'Dredd' film. What a lot they've added. Music is on the button. SFX are excellent. Filming is impressive. I've not seen a modern 3-D movie before but I like it. I found myself reaching out trying to touch things that were dancing before my eyes. Karl is a great Dredd and Olivia gets Anderson completely. This is Dredd as it should be done - true to character, visceral, unrelentingly violent (but not off-puttingly so)."

That still holds good. I've removed the one minor negative from my comment because people strangely, despite all the positives, focused on that and made far too much of it. I liked the movie. It was, unlike the first film, a true representation of Judge Dredd. Did it exceed expectations? Yes. Karl Urban was a fine Dredd and I'd be more than happy to see him in the follow up. Olivia Thirlby excelled as Anderson. Lena Headey was very convincing as the villain of the piece.

I'm not aware that they made that many changes. A few tweaks to the uniform. The character and storyline are pure Dredd.

How much does it matter to you if the new "DREDD" film is more successful than the original?

When the first movie flopped, the head of steam "2000 AD" and related publications had been building up evaporated fairly quickly, so it's obviously important. I think the new movie has a vastly better chance of succeeding. Nobody could watch it and say, "That's not Dredd."

Were you asked to help write the script at any point?

I was a consultant. There may be a line here or there of mine, or a plot suggestion that was adopted, but it's pretty much Alex Garland's story all the way. He was an old time Dredd fan, so that helped enormously.

If "DREDD" does well, are there any "2000 AD" storylines or characters you would like to see be brought into the Dredd film universe?

I think Alex's original script used Death and the Dark Judges. I hope that a future one will actually feature them. Visually, they'd be terrific.

David Cronenberg directed the film version of your graphic novel "A History of Violence." How was the experience of getting that film made different from "DREDD?"

In my experience, at least the way movies work, is that once they've obtained the rights they don't want to hear from you again. That's why working with DNA ["DREDD's" production company] was so unexpected and very refreshing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 01 August, 2012, 12:12:13 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 01 August, 2012, 05:49:39 AM
I just found out why it will take so extreme longer in my country until Dredd will come out.
They will cut it down to 88min, and Age:16....
I am very.very.very.very disappointed... *biting teeth and leaving*

Let's hope the BBFC don't get scissor happy or the distributer insists on cuts to secure a lower certificate! :-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 01 August, 2012, 02:24:57 PM
wait, did I misread something or get the wrong end of the stick.....did someone say The Raid is getting a remake????!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 01 August, 2012, 03:11:20 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 01 August, 2012, 05:49:39 AM
I just found out why it will take so extreme longer in my country until Dredd will come out.
They will cut it down to 88min, and Age:16....
I am very.very.very.very disappointed... *biting teeth and leaving*

Where are you from, again? Get yourself over to a London meet.

Quote from: Goaty on 01 August, 2012, 11:10:52 AM
Good article of Comic Book Recourses interview with John Wagner about 35 years of Judge Dredd, Strontium Dog, and DREDD 3D...

:cool:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 August, 2012, 04:45:38 PM
From Icon Film Distribution Australia

(http://i.imgur.com/jPknL.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 01 August, 2012, 04:53:42 PM
now THAT'S Dredd!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 01 August, 2012, 05:25:03 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 01 August, 2012, 11:10:52 AM
Good article of Comic Book Recourses interview with John Wagner about 35 years of Judge Dredd, Strontium Dog, and DREDD 3D.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=40172 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=40172)

From that article, an example of the PURE CLASS that is John Wagner:

QuoteThere have been many, many writers over the years who have been called "the next John Wagner." What does that phrase mean to you?

Never heard the expression, myself. I assume it means cynical, world-weary and grumpy. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 01 August, 2012, 05:26:00 PM
Jovus-blathering-Grud.  The spoiler tags are menat to be quotes.  When are we getting an edit function on this ruddy thread?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 01 August, 2012, 05:57:43 PM
I wonder why Dredd's crying?

Quote from: TordelBack on 01 August, 2012, 05:26:00 PM
When are we getting an edit function on this ruddy thread?

^^^
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 August, 2012, 06:25:11 PM
As lip-reader, it's looks like Dredd says "Creep"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 01 August, 2012, 06:51:21 PM
Quote from: judgeblake on 01 August, 2012, 02:24:57 PM
wait, did I misread something or get the wrong end of the stick.....did someone say The Raid is getting a remake????!!!!!

Apparently so. Evans is also working on a sequel to the original version. Which I suppose will also get a remake...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 01 August, 2012, 07:03:42 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 01 August, 2012, 05:25:03 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 01 August, 2012, 11:10:52 AM
Good article of Comic Book Recourses interview with John Wagner about 35 years of Judge Dredd, Strontium Dog, and DREDD 3D.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=40172 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=40172)

From that article, an example of the PURE CLASS that is John Wagner:

There have been many, many writers over the years who have been called "the next John Wagner." What does that phrase mean to you?

Never heard the expression, myself. I assume it means cynical, world-weary and grumpy. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

My favourite bit was when the interviewer asked an irksome question about the comic, and Wagner told him to buy a fucking subscription and see for himself.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 01 August, 2012, 07:45:39 PM
Quote
I wonder why Dredd's crying?

[spoiler]He has just been shot in the gut.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 01 August, 2012, 08:14:26 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 01 August, 2012, 05:25:03 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 01 August, 2012, 11:10:52 AM
Good article of Comic Book Recourses interview with John Wagner about 35 years of Judge Dredd, Strontium Dog, and DREDD 3D.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=40172 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=40172)

From that article, an example of the PURE CLASS that is John Wagner:

[spoiler]There have been many, many writers over the years who have been called "the next John Wagner." What does that phrase mean to you?

Never heard the expression, myself. I assume it means cynical, world-weary and grumpy. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.[/spoiler]

Ah! Our own Joe Soap then   ;) :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 01 August, 2012, 09:19:34 PM
I've removed the spoilery post, and the replies related to it. Just in case anyone is wondering where their posts have gone.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 01 August, 2012, 09:22:13 PM
many thanks. It shan't happen again. I exile myself to Cursed Earth!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 August, 2012, 09:28:17 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 01 August, 2012, 08:14:26 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 01 August, 2012, 05:25:03 PM
From that article, an example of the PURE CLASS that is John Wagner:

[spoiler]There have been many, many writers over the years who have been called "the next John Wagner." What does that phrase mean to you?

Never heard the expression, myself. I assume it means cynical, world-weary and grumpy. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.[/spoiler]

Ah! Our own Joe Soap then   ;) :P


I am the future.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 02 August, 2012, 03:44:16 PM
What are we to make of the trailer being classified twice, once on the 26th june, and again on the 9th july, both times receiving a 12A rating, but the second time being a second shorter?

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 August, 2012, 03:53:46 PM
Both trailers passed with no cuts. DNA/Entertainment may have decided to alter the first trailer after it was submitted and classified but because it was altered needed to be re-submitted for classification.

The first trailer may not have been intended for cinema but the second one was and has a different title card?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 August, 2012, 03:57:56 PM
Think trailer was for 12A films at cinema, and later it will be 18 Trailer soon. :-)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 02 August, 2012, 04:12:00 PM

Whilst watching late night rubbish I often see a few Film Trailers, Expendables 2 for instance so do you think Lionsgate will follow suit with a brief TV AD campaign?

They seem to have very positive reviews at San Diego Comic Con and I'm sure a few Film preview programmes would be interested in profiling DREDD but is that enough to promote the Movie into peoples conciousness?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 02 August, 2012, 04:45:29 PM
http://www.totalfilm.com/news/karl-urban-talks-dredd

cool little vid too
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 02 August, 2012, 04:48:27 PM
Doh beaten to it
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 02 August, 2012, 06:41:36 PM
(http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/XQX.nPkvQqIc3KyMM5A76w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD05MzM7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://l.yimg.com/os/251/2012/08/02/FIN06-Dredd-1Sht-ab3-jpg_154331.jpg)

Final poster
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 02 August, 2012, 06:42:21 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 02 August, 2012, 06:41:36 PM
(http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/XQX.nPkvQqIc3KyMM5A76w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD05MzM7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://l.yimg.com/os/251/2012/08/02/FIN06-Dredd-1Sht-ab3-jpg_154331.jpg)

Final poster

Got a bit of a Dark Knight feel to it, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 02 August, 2012, 06:42:37 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/524292_465294243494429_1432306056_n.jpg


..and new banner...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 02 August, 2012, 06:45:12 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 02 August, 2012, 06:42:21 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 02 August, 2012, 06:41:36 PM
(http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/XQX.nPkvQqIc3KyMM5A76w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD05MzM7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://l.yimg.com/os/251/2012/08/02/FIN06-Dredd-1Sht-ab3-jpg_154331.jpg)

Final poster

Got a bit of a Dark Knight feel to it, doesn't it?

lol yeah, well I said that it would be no bad if Dredd and it's speculative sequels did have some similarities to Nolan's Dark Knight films - but I got poo pooed for that suggestion lol bloody great poster though!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 02 August, 2012, 06:48:24 PM
Absolute badass!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 02 August, 2012, 06:51:35 PM
Pretty cool to see Wagner and Ezquerra's name on there too! What's the block on the right called?  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 02 August, 2012, 06:51:51 PM
Poor Carlos. That's friggin ace though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 02 August, 2012, 06:52:03 PM
Excellent job
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 02 August, 2012, 06:52:57 PM
I'm still hoping for an inclusion of Charlton Heston block in a Dredd sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 02 August, 2012, 06:53:13 PM
Love the poster!  Can't wait!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 02 August, 2012, 06:54:03 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 02 August, 2012, 06:51:35 PM
Pretty cool to see Wagner and Ezquerra's name on there too! What's the block on the right called?  :o

^^
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 02 August, 2012, 06:59:32 PM
Quote from: Stan on 02 August, 2012, 06:54:03 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 02 August, 2012, 06:51:35 PM
Pretty cool to see Wagner and Ezquerra's name on there too! What's the block on the right called?  :o

^^

:-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 02 August, 2012, 07:07:00 PM
Its beautiful! Only missing a Chopper smiley!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 August, 2012, 07:12:10 PM
That poster is pretty friggin' sweet!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 August, 2012, 07:21:49 PM
(http://www.comingsoon.net/nextraimages/dredd-3d-final-one-sheet.jpg)


(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/8071/megazine001p33.jpg)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 August, 2012, 07:22:29 PM
Fuck me! That's amazing poster! Looks like Dredd in America;

(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/nomadicwriter/859310/126751/original.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jock on 02 August, 2012, 07:29:56 PM
That was the inspiration. They even tried it with the flag.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 02 August, 2012, 07:31:48 PM
Yeah it's a great poster based on a classic pose. I took a similar one for the Planet Replicas shoot, but wasn't quite happy with the pose looking back on it so it never got used.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8151/7699421960_b7ab1cb1eb_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 02 August, 2012, 07:33:22 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 02 August, 2012, 06:59:32 PM
Quote from: Stan on 02 August, 2012, 06:54:03 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 02 August, 2012, 06:51:35 PM
Pretty cool to see Wagner and Ezquerra's name on there too! What's the block on the right called?  :o

^^

:-[

It's an easy one to miss..

Karl Urban: Dredd is not for 'bed-wetters'
http://entertainment.stv.tv/showbiz/311432-karl-urban-dredd-is-not-for-bed-wetters/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 02 August, 2012, 07:38:13 PM
ShockTillYouDropNews ‏@STYDNews
The Fringe: This Dredd 3D Poster Looks Very Familiar http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/169017-the-fringe-this-dredd-3d-poster-looks-very-familiar?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Can someone else tell this bell end what came first?I just Tweeted him the above pic and he said"Sure, but I sincerely doubt the poster creator saw that piece of art."

I replied that Jock just said that it was based on it!! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 02 August, 2012, 07:41:25 PM
Ah, he now says"Well there ya go....awesome!!!"

One more JUDGED! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 02 August, 2012, 07:44:44 PM
Yeah, the only problem there is that my IMMEDIATE thought on seeing it was 'daredevil'. That's not a bad thing, as i really like the poster for daredevil, and as it goes, i really like the poster for dredd. It's merely the angle and the corner of the buiding, along with the similar mood. Lots of posters look like other posters, it's no biggie. Despite the similarities to daredevil, i'd say that's a fine piece of promo. It's a tiny wee shame about the strapline, but on the whole, yeah, good stuff.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 August, 2012, 07:49:30 PM





Quote from: chuffsteruk on 02 August, 2012, 07:38:13 PM

Can someone else tell this bell end what came first?I just Tweeted him the above pic and he said"Sure, but I sincerely doubt the poster creator saw that piece of art."

I replied that Jock just said that it was based on it!! :D



Well you can't deny that it's also taking inspiration from other character posing on top of building ledge posters.



(http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Entertainment/images-5/spiderman-movie.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 02 August, 2012, 08:16:08 PM
Loving the Dredd poster!
Absolutely first class work!
Me wants one.  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 August, 2012, 08:18:28 PM
Striking  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 02 August, 2012, 08:18:56 PM
Excellent. I like it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 August, 2012, 08:20:00 PM
Quote from: jock on 02 August, 2012, 07:29:56 PM
That was the inspiration. They even tried it with the flag.

Amazing, Jock, maybe it's better without the flag, as Americans won't to see that if poster of that in US?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 02 August, 2012, 08:20:25 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 August, 2012, 07:49:30 PM
Well you can't deny that it's also taking inspiration from other character posing on top of building ledge posters.

The difference between the images would be the semiotics.

Dredd posed atop the city perfectly reflects the thematic concerns of the material; while aggravating his haemorrhoids by perching on architraves is just the kind of thing Pete Parker does most evenings. If that Spiderman image was trying to reflect the theme of the films, Tobey Maguire would have been posed atop Kirsten Dunst.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 August, 2012, 08:24:35 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 02 August, 2012, 06:42:37 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/524292_465294243494429_1432306056_n.jpg


..and new banner...

(http://i.imgur.com/1yfQU.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 02 August, 2012, 08:38:32 PM
Think Dredd treading on the stars and stripes might have been a step to far for the yanks. Very nice poster.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 August, 2012, 08:41:12 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 02 August, 2012, 08:38:32 PM
Think Dredd treading on the stars and stripes might have been a step to far for the yanks. Very nice poster.

Yeah, you tell it better than me :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 02 August, 2012, 08:50:43 PM
Wow! brilliant poster of Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buddy on 02 August, 2012, 08:58:49 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 02 August, 2012, 06:41:36 PM
(http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/XQX.nPkvQqIc3KyMM5A76w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD05MzM7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://l.yimg.com/os/251/2012/08/02/FIN06-Dredd-1Sht-ab3-jpg_154331.jpg)

Final poster


Looks like this...


(http://www.popartuk.com/g/l/lgfp1201+ben-affleck-is-daredevil-daredevil-poster.jpg)

But it is good...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 02 August, 2012, 09:00:27 PM
Awesome poster :D

Can't wait to get them both framed and up in my house.. Wherever the hell that's going to be..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 02 August, 2012, 09:26:01 PM
That there poster is incendiary!   :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 02 August, 2012, 09:35:21 PM
Quote from: jock on 02 August, 2012, 07:29:56 PM
That was the inspiration. They even tried it with the flag.

Wonder if that version will turn up at some point?


Fantastic poster BTW. Only a month to go, Lads n lasses!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 02 August, 2012, 09:37:58 PM
cant bloody wait
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 02 August, 2012, 10:13:29 PM
I hope a clean version of this gets released.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: norse_sage on 02 August, 2012, 10:17:24 PM
A clean version should be available in the not too distant future.
Love that poster, which i cannot say about the first one and the motion poster.

I seem to recall there being talk of a poster by Jock ages ago, any idea when we might see that?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 02 August, 2012, 10:19:06 PM
Also, does anyone have a large version of this?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: norse_sage on 02 August, 2012, 10:33:28 PM
Same time as the clean version. Shortly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 August, 2012, 10:35:44 PM
I haven't seem any bad marketing material so far.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 August, 2012, 10:37:01 PM
Hope they used this at cinemas and bus stops etc? Billboards??
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 02 August, 2012, 10:50:00 PM
There is some grafitti on the buildings ledge in the forground  :o, is it just jibberish for effect, or is there meaning in it? :-*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 02 August, 2012, 10:58:52 PM
*loving the new poster*

stupid question alert: Can someone explain me *language-wise* what the difference is between
"judgement" and "judgment"?

+more questions: in which casefiles are the single stories of "Origin", America, and Death Man?
*Necropolis was in 14 *bought* and the Tale of the deadman in 13, right?*
*just askin because going through Karls Interviews again and feeling intrigued*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 02 August, 2012, 11:03:02 PM
All are available as stand alone Graphic novels. America and TotDM don't fall under the 'Dredd' strip banner although both feature him heavily and Origins is recent enough to be years away from being collected in the case files.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 02 August, 2012, 11:06:33 PM
@James: Ahhhhhh, okay. Thank you :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 02 August, 2012, 11:11:05 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 02 August, 2012, 10:58:52 PM
*loving the new poster*

stupid question alert: Can someone explain me *language-wise* what the difference is between
"judgement" and "judgment"?

The difference between Judgement and Judgment is English English vs American English.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 August, 2012, 11:13:08 PM
Quotestupid question alert: Can someone explain me *language-wise* what the difference is between
"judgement" and "judgment"?

Judgment is more commonly used in American English, and tends to be used more in a legal context. Both are valid spellings of the word.

Quote+more questions: in which casefiles are the single stories of "Origin", America, and Death Man?

None of these stories appear in any Case Files volume so far published.

America is technically a spin-off of Dredd, so it appears in it's own book, which includes America and it's two sequels:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Judge_Dredd_America.jpg/250px-Judge_Dredd_America.jpg)

Also available in these older editions (but I recommend: the most recent book as it includes more stories):

(http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/iss/600w/605/19316048/19316052_1.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-amYRle7QG1w/Ttsf9gkVCdI/AAAAAAAAAYo/6wX8eZ6No2g/s1600/americamcngn.jpg)

Origins was published in 2006/2007, and the Case Files so far have only published material from 1977 to 1993. Origins is available in it's own book though:

(http://www.2000adonline.com/books/assets/covers/judge_dredd_origins.jpg)

Bit confusing! The Dead Man again is technically a spin-off, so appears in it's own book. Tale of the Dead Man is the sequel story and appears in The Complete Case Files 14:

(http://shop.2000adonline.com/images/product_full/the_dead_man.jpg)

Also available in the older edition:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P6Q_6u_kVW0/Tqt8ehX6GQI/AAAAAAAAASY/DA3Vj6N_Als/s1600/dmoldtradeseanp.jpg)

(When The Dead Man was serialised in 2000ad, it was not billed as a Judge Dredd story, and it wasn't even made clear that it was set in Dredd's world. The identity of the Dead Man - Judge Dredd - was only revealed at the end of the story.)

Quote*Necropolis was in 14 *bought* and the Tale of the deadman in 13, right?*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 02 August, 2012, 11:20:44 PM
@radiator: thank you for de-confusiong me about the 2 different deadman things. *everything is clear now*
thank you forum :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 03 August, 2012, 12:12:12 AM
It's raised its ugly, bald head on Aint it Cool's poster thread. The lack of 'Judge' in the title shows contempt for fans of the comic, apparently. I'm off to bed, why don't y'all deal with it:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/57401 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/57401)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 12:33:46 AM
I wouldn't bother with those Shitehawks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 August, 2012, 12:50:16 AM
Just got thought, as when there first official Dredd poster came out, while later - a new trailer.

So it could be likely 2nd trailer in week or two?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 03 August, 2012, 01:36:59 AM
I was trying to do damage control on Yahoo's Dredd thread on FB. What's the point? People are fucking fucksticks. Hollywood. Remakes. Blahblahblah. I hope they all die in a fire.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 03 August, 2012, 02:26:03 AM
Well I speak to people that I know about the up coming Dredd film, and although they show a passing interest I find that they are much more interested in mediocre product such as Total Recall or Spiderman. It seems as a sweeping generalisation movie audiences  like to be spoon fed the same old nonsense these days. Or perhaps they've been beaten into submission by the years of Hollywood pumping out this inoffensive cookie cutter crap.

How do you convey to the general population that a Judge Dredd franchise could encompass everything they love about popular sci-fi storytelling from Blade Runner to District 9 and more?

Interestingly when I recommend the same people go to read the original Watchmen or Dark knight graphic novels they show the same lack of interest, but lap up the movie adaptations like Umpty Chew.

I think the success of the film will come through word of mouth but It'll be interesting to see whether that success will come before it's released on DVD.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 03 August, 2012, 06:07:34 AM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 03 August, 2012, 02:26:03 AM
Interestingly when I recommend the same people go to read the original Watchmen or Dark knight graphic novels they show the same lack of interest

If they like Watchmen etc you should tease them by talking enthusiastically about a key scene that did not appear in the film :)

I tried too with several books, LOTR and V for Vendetta without success (to encourage people to read them before seeing the films). Reading is work and people are lazy, many now think the crap idea they have in their head about each of these books is what the book is. Although the film of LOTR was exceptional I think an effort should be made to see the work in your head before you see an adaptation on the screen. It's just good for your brain.

But you can't really sell it to them, can you? The reason you like these things is that you have a specialist interest. Or perhaps it's just down to taste.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 03 August, 2012, 07:26:51 AM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 03 August, 2012, 02:26:03 AM
Well I speak to people that I know about the up coming Dredd film, and although they show a passing interest I find that they are much more interested in mediocre product such as Total Recall or Spiderman. It seems as a sweeping generalisation movie audiences  like to be spoon fed the same old nonsense these days. Or perhaps they've been beaten into submission by the years of Hollywood pumping out this inoffensive cookie cutter crap.

How do you convey to the general population that a Judge Dredd franchise could encompass everything they love about popular sci-fi storytelling from Blade Runner to District 9 and more?

Interestingly when I recommend the same people go to read the original Watchmen or Dark knight graphic novels they show the same lack of interest, but lap up the movie adaptations like Umpty Chew.

I think the success of the film will come through word of mouth but It'll be interesting to see whether that success will come before it's released on DVD.

I suggest some new friends. Friends with slightly higher IQs
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 03 August, 2012, 09:46:24 AM
I was thinking this when seeing the poster, in a "Dredd is even freaking more awesome than a green intergalactic cyborg warrior!"-way!

(http://fanboygaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/halo-2-box-art.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 August, 2012, 09:50:41 AM
Total Film in Facebook update their cover, guess what it is?

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/217941_10151162876127214_1666909778_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 03 August, 2012, 09:54:48 AM
Pretty cool, even if the contrast in lighting is horrific. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 August, 2012, 10:03:32 AM
5 weeks to go today!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 03 August, 2012, 10:38:54 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 02 August, 2012, 07:31:48 PM
Yeah it's a great poster based on a classic pose. I took a similar one for the Planet Replicas shoot, but wasn't quite happy with the pose looking back on it so it never got used.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8151/7699421960_b7ab1cb1eb_b.jpg)

If Dredd's left knee had leaned ever so slightly further out that shot would be perfect! I've seen a lot of pictures of the planet Replicas suits in action, but I really like the detail I can see here, the boots are mint!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 August, 2012, 11:13:05 AM
Yeah, turning the leg would have made it so much better... Always next time...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 11:31:52 AM
He looks bit casual.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 August, 2012, 12:01:24 PM
Freemans catalogue pose.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 12:11:16 PM
Scratching his balls too.


Boots look great.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 03 August, 2012, 12:24:00 PM
Dredd's got the cover for new Total Film Mag.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151162960312214&set=a.184063607213.156836.10617067213&type=1&theater

Looks very much like the one Empire did.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 03 August, 2012, 12:24:34 PM
Woops, wrong thread, sorry.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buddy on 03 August, 2012, 02:04:26 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 03 August, 2012, 02:26:03 AM
they are much more interested in mediocre product such as Total Recall or Spiderman.

Spider-Man is really very good..... it has it's faults but was much, much better than I was expecting.

I haven't seen Total Recall so I can't comment on that... didn't even know it was on release.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 August, 2012, 02:39:15 PM
According to total film Dredd has secured $20,000,000 in pre-release ticket sales, which bodes well for tht 50 mill target for a sequel!   :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 August, 2012, 02:46:30 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 03 August, 2012, 02:39:15 PM
According to total film Dredd has secured $20,000,000 in pre-release ticket sales, which bodes well for tht 50 mill target for a sequel!   :D

Bloody hell! How that happens?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 03 August, 2012, 02:51:44 PM
someone didn't forget to put a full stop in there or something or is 20 mill upfront common ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 August, 2012, 02:58:49 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 03 August, 2012, 02:46:30 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 03 August, 2012, 02:39:15 PM
According to total film Dredd has secured $20,000,000 in pre-release ticket sales, which bodes well for tht 50 mill target for a sequel!   :D

Bloody hell! How that happens?

I know! Good isn't it?

Quote from: James Stacey on 03 August, 2012, 02:51:44 PM
someone didn't forget to put a full stop in there or something or is 20 mill upfront common ?

Not sure how things are done in the US. Maybe someone from the States can verify if this is common practice.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 03:01:35 PM
It's in MOV13S 8Y NUMB3R5 column in Total Film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 03:08:04 PM
and Hollywood Reporter[/color (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dark-knight-rises-pre-sale-tickets-25-million-351301) ] says pre-ticket sales for TDKR were $25 million in July.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 August, 2012, 03:09:05 PM
2000AD post this in Facebook; nice!


(http://i49.tinypic.com/20u4o7r.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 August, 2012, 03:22:35 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 03:08:04 PM
and Hollywood Reporter[/color (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dark-knight-rises-pre-sale-tickets-25-million-351301) ] says pre-ticket sales for TDKR were $25 million in July.

If that's the case, that's a bloody good result for Dredd!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 03 August, 2012, 03:28:01 PM
Lordy. That's looking good for a sequel then.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 August, 2012, 03:31:42 PM
I wish they would start filming now...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 03:37:45 PM
It does need to be confirmed. If true it all ready has more pre-sales than the Hunger Games at $15 million which is in the top 5 highest pre-sales out-stripping some Potter and Twilight films.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: norse_sage on 03 August, 2012, 03:39:30 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 03 August, 2012, 02:39:15 PM
According to total film Dredd has secured $20,000,000 in pre-release ticket sales, which bodes well for tht 50 mill target for a sequel!   :D

If true, that is spectacular and we are pretty much go for sequel.
If true, mind you. And this sounds too good to be true.

I'll join Joe in awaiting independent confirmation of this figure before celebrating.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 August, 2012, 03:49:56 PM
Woah there chaps.

I think what we have here is someone getting their facts and figures confused. I think they're referring to Dredd pre-sales at Cannes a couple of years ago - when Dredd was being sold to buyers - not box office presales.

There's no way in hell Dredd would match pre-release ticket sales of DKR or The Hunger Games.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 04:00:12 PM

Quote from: radiator on 03 August, 2012, 03:49:56 PM

I think what we have here is someone getting their facts and figures confused. I think they're referring to Dredd pre-sales at Cannes a couple of years ago - when Dredd was being sold to buyers - not box office presales.

This how it's written in Total Film:



20,000,000 The advanced ticket sales (in dollars) for Dredd in the US.


It doesn't mentionthe  Cannes distributor rights deal - which was around  $10-11 million I think for Lionsgate US and 7 million for Entertainment UK - so I don't see that as being the mix-up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 04:02:55 PM
Quote from: radiator on 03 August, 2012, 03:49:56 PM
There's no way in hell Dredd would match pre-release ticket sales of DKR or The Hunger Games.


Once upon a time there was no way in Hell that anyone thought Dredd would get universally positive reviews.

We'll wait and see.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 August, 2012, 04:04:31 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 04:02:55 PM
Once upon a time there was no way in Hell that anyone thought Dredd would get universally positive reviews.

We'll wait and see.

Brilliant agree with you.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 August, 2012, 04:06:39 PM
Shit! If I have to see it 5,000,000 times to guarantee a sequel I will!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 04:14:12 PM

Wikipedia is the possible culprit:


Ahead of release, the film achieved advance sales of 20 million dollars



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dredd#cite_note-20


from a link to the Guradian article:


http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2010/sep/16/uk-film-council-toronto-festival
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 August, 2012, 04:19:01 PM
Yeah that sounds like what has happened to me.

Is it even possible to prebook Dredd tickets yet?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: norse_sage on 03 August, 2012, 04:23:43 PM
That sounds about right.

I'm very sorry to say that the current tracking figure of a 13-ish US opening weekend, 30-ish mill total US run (and thus no sequel) seems a tad more plausible.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 04:36:17 PM
Those box-office.com figure change do change.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 04:36:57 PM


No EDIT function:

Those box-office.com figures do change.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 August, 2012, 04:40:21 PM
Quote from: norse_sage on 03 August, 2012, 04:23:43 PM
That sounds about right.

I'm very sorry to say that the current tracking figure of a 13-ish US opening weekend, 30-ish mill total US run (and thus no sequel) seems a tad more plausible.


There's nothing like optimism is there? And that was nothing like optimism!  :eh:

Wasn't so long ago that a lot of people were writing this film of all together and my have they had to swallow large doses of humble!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 August, 2012, 04:57:43 PM
Quotecurrent tracking figure of a 13-ish US opening weekend, 30-ish mill total US run

Ouch, that's pretty brutal. Oh well, those things aren't the gospel - here's hoping positive reviews and woed of mouth can help bring that figure closer to the magic 50.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 03 August, 2012, 05:00:18 PM
50 mil is a tough number to crack for an ultra-violent vision of the bleakest future you can imagine presided over by a state-sponsored fascist, is what NS is trying to say, I think.

If only we had a wiseass walking talking teddy bear in our R-rated movie and we'd be set...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 August, 2012, 05:09:54 PM
Go see it more than once  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 03 August, 2012, 05:12:38 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 August, 2012, 05:09:54 PM
Go see it more than once  ;)

exactly!!!
or coax your rich relatives to invest in a sequel! or to buy 100 tickets each lol
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 03 August, 2012, 05:55:43 PM
I've never actually seen a film at the cinema more than once but I'm hoping this will be worth it. I have a feeling it may be a long wait for the DVD.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 06:23:58 PM
Quote from: radiator on 03 August, 2012, 04:57:43 PM
Quotecurrent tracking figure of a 13-ish US opening weekend, 30-ish mill total US run

Ouch, that's pretty brutal. Oh well, those things aren't the gospel - here's hoping positive reviews and woed of mouth can help bring that figure closer to the magic 50.


2 months before it debuted BoxOffice.com tracking had predicted that District 9 would open with $15M and cumulate $45M.

The actual was opening weekend: $37M, Cumulative: $115M.


Hopefully Dredd has enough novelty factor and word of mouth to get somewhere near that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 03 August, 2012, 08:24:58 PM
surely somekind of commisioned bbc4 documentary about the long running 2000ad and Judge Dredd strip and how it's been extremely influential should be put into the works - would give good marketing to the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 09:57:01 PM
Embiggened for your pleasure


(http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/dredd-poster.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 03 August, 2012, 10:19:25 PM
NICE
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 03 August, 2012, 11:47:12 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 03 August, 2012, 11:13:05 AM
Yeah, turning the leg would have made it so much better... Always next time...

Also looks like he's smiling, from that angle ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 04 August, 2012, 12:02:11 AM
I just realised that's Ezquerra block on the right. Two namechecks on the poster. Nice one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 August, 2012, 12:25:48 AM
The grand designs of Gianni Versace:


(http://www.propbay.com/attachments/original/5961d1343063196-gianni-versace-dredd-concept-versace-dredd-1-0005.jpg)

(http://www.propbay.com/attachments/original/5963d1343063196-gianni-versace-dredd-concept-versace-dredd-2-0004.jpg)

(http://www.propbay.com/attachments/original/5964d1343063196-gianni-versace-dredd-concept-versace-dredd-3-a0001.jpg)

(http://www.propbay.com/attachments/original/5965d1343063196-gianni-versace-dredd-concept-versace-dredd-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 04 August, 2012, 12:28:30 AM
I think late Gianni Versace does really like Black Adder's codpiece?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 04 August, 2012, 12:52:21 AM
That's not Dredd, that first picture looks like Captain America crossed with a gimp suit. The end result was no where near as bad as that was it?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 04 August, 2012, 01:06:51 AM
did versace actually draw a simple good design and then got drunk and took the designs to a gay club the day before handing them in where drunkenly let partygoers fill in the missing 'accesories' on the designs??? lol
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 04 August, 2012, 02:16:40 AM
You'd think that by the time he reached design #3 they'd have realised it wasn't a joke and shown him the door.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 04 August, 2012, 02:34:33 AM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 04 August, 2012, 02:16:40 AM
You'd think that by the time he reached design #3 they'd have realised it wasn't a joke and shown him the door.

They did. It was Emma Porteous who designed the final costume.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 04 August, 2012, 06:46:45 AM
That is appalling ! Exactly what environment would a cop be parading about in that ? Except for gay pride.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 04 August, 2012, 07:35:23 AM
It's the gift that keeps on giving.

They need to be posted on any thread outside this board that complains about the Urban uniform...

"Is that what you want, really?"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 04 August, 2012, 07:40:47 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 04 August, 2012, 06:46:45 AM
That is appalling ! Exactly what environment would a cop be parading about in that ? Except for gay pride.

All together now...

"Y... M... C.... A!"

Although I've seen it before, that really is the campest thing I've ever seen!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 04 August, 2012, 08:31:51 AM
These costume designs would have worked for a Carry on Dredd (3DD) . Imagine that bejewelled cod piece popping out at you on screen at your local IMAX.  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 04 August, 2012, 09:03:19 AM
Did he have a job lot of silver and gold studs that he needed to get rid of?

Was he mates with Stallone or something? It's just beyond belief that someone thought it was a good idea, and a selling point for an action film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 04 August, 2012, 09:29:13 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 04 August, 2012, 12:25:48 AM
The grand designs of Gianni Versace:


(http://www.propbay.com/attachments/original/5961d1343063196-gianni-versace-dredd-concept-versace-dredd-1-0005.jpg)

(http://www.propbay.com/attachments/original/5963d1343063196-gianni-versace-dredd-concept-versace-dredd-2-0004.jpg)

(http://www.propbay.com/attachments/original/5964d1343063196-gianni-versace-dredd-concept-versace-dredd-3-a0001.jpg)

(http://www.propbay.com/attachments/original/5965d1343063196-gianni-versace-dredd-concept-versace-dredd-4.jpg)

Dredd of Finland. ...hmm...strange feeling I've said that before. But Jaysus...what were they on?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 04 August, 2012, 09:30:43 AM
Last night I dreamt of a scene where an un-uniformed Dredd was at home with his missus, which was apparently the minor quibble John Wagner was talking about. It was so hellish that, rather than recall it a few minutes after waking, it's taken me 4 hours to remember it even happened. I suppose that means I should take a step back and just wait for the film to come out.

But screw that..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 04 August, 2012, 11:14:48 AM
The best thing about those images are the pen circles indicating the design elements they think look good. "Yeah, the diamante kneepads and triangular eagle are working for me".

To be fair, though, Versace's minions weren't pulling this stuff out of their arses. Carlos's elaborate initial designs exhibited the effortless blend of machismo and camp historically favoured by European fascist groups, and which still finds favour with police forces all over the world:

(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j364/Kevin3177/nypdhighwayunit.png?t=1306257837)

(http://garrettword.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/polizia-di-stato-2.jpg)

I normally keep those pictures at the bottom of a carboard box in the loft, marked 'receipts'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 04 August, 2012, 12:14:26 PM
Dear sweet lord what the f*ck are those Italians wearing?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 04 August, 2012, 12:37:35 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 04 August, 2012, 12:14:26 PM
Dear sweet lord what the f*ck are those Italians wearing?
Who knows but I doubt they'd be served at Chick-Fil-A.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 04 August, 2012, 12:43:02 PM
At first I thought the second pic was some kind of joke.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 04 August, 2012, 12:45:08 PM
Isn't that Ben Affleck in the bottom pic on the left?


Are they patrolling outside `The Blue Oyster Bar`??!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 04 August, 2012, 01:08:34 PM
Look like the Dutch coppers off the Fast Show
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 04 August, 2012, 01:12:29 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 04 August, 2012, 01:08:34 PM
Look like the Dutch coppers off the Fast Show

:D"I'm proud to say, he is also my lover"!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 August, 2012, 01:16:51 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 04 August, 2012, 11:14:48 AM
To be fair, though, Versace's minions weren't pulling this stuff out of their arses.


I'm Versace had other things up there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 04 August, 2012, 01:22:00 PM
To be fair to Versace and his crew, if you go to Gianni Versace and ask for a "heroic fascist cop", this is what you're going to get. He was a camp fashion designer producing catwalk clothes for a particular marketplace, and so massively out of his depth here. The only reason they went to him in the first place was so they could add his name to the credits, and gain a little kudos.

I quite like Versace's clothing (not that I could ever afford any of it- not even a bejewelled cockring) and understand his placing as high god of the fashion industry, but I would never have seriously expected him to come up with a practical Mega City Judge uniform in a million years.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 04 August, 2012, 01:33:34 PM
In the 80's, a vintage decade for camp, these curious designs would have been excellent PR for the soon to be released Stallone debacle.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 August, 2012, 01:47:08 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 04 August, 2012, 01:22:00 PM
To be fair to Versace and his crew, if you go to Gianni Versace and ask for a "heroic fascist cop", this is what you're going to get.



I'm sure it wouldn't've been beyond him to design a variant of the leather-biker-cop uniform worn so prominently in Cruising (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x3infcAtfs&feature=related).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 04 August, 2012, 01:54:22 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 04 August, 2012, 01:12:29 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 04 August, 2012, 01:08:34 PM
Look like the Dutch coppers off the Fast Show

:D"I'm proud to say, he is also my lover"!!
Aye that's them lol.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklarr on 04 August, 2012, 05:48:08 PM
[spoiler]I wonder if there's a "I'm with Rowdy Yates block! Who you fighting with?" -moment in the movie?
I mean if Dredd somewhere cathes a whiff of the Slo-mo drug and fights it off in some spectacular way?  :lol:[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 04 August, 2012, 07:51:01 PM
I drove into Southampton city centre today and was greeted by a massive Dredd teaser poster near the translation/BBC building. Not sure if the link will work as I'm on an iOS-thingy...

(http://db.tt/tRloWyBr)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 04 August, 2012, 07:53:10 PM
One more try:

(https://dl.dropbox.com/s/78vhulvrv8p9exz/Photo%2004-08-2012%2016%2015%2038.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 04 August, 2012, 07:55:19 PM
And that was meant to say "train station" not "translation". BTW, it wasn't me holding the iPhone - my son was with me. "Quick, get a pic of that billboard!" "Why, Dad?" "JUST DO IT!"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 04 August, 2012, 08:08:57 PM
Fucking awesome!

Now who says they weren't do great PR campaign??

So it's in Southampton, would any spotters find anywhere of it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 05 August, 2012, 01:05:14 AM
Need  too many a big 'Dredd' on there or too many will think militant Jahovah Witnesses are in town  :o :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MattJW on 05 August, 2012, 02:14:51 AM
So - these box office predictions at boxoffice.com.... how exactly do they work them out? Do they run an algorithm which analyses online 'buzz'? Or do they result from several chin-stroking debates amongst various journalistic film-school types?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 05 August, 2012, 02:21:27 AM
Quote from: MattJW on 05 August, 2012, 02:14:51 AM
So - these box office predictions at boxoffice.com.... how exactly do they work them out? Do they run an algorithm which analyses online 'buzz'? Or do they result from several chin-stroking debates amongst various journalistic film-school types?

The latter plus a Swedish Squid called Frankie who dips occasionally into two cauldrons and plucks balls from each. One cauldron is marked hit and the other miss. Its all pretty scientific and to make sure everything is above board its adjudicated by a chain smoking chimp called Peter.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 05 August, 2012, 02:24:37 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 05 August, 2012, 02:21:27 AM
Quote from: MattJW on 05 August, 2012, 02:14:51 AM
So - these box office predictions at boxoffice.com.... how exactly do they work them out? Do they run an algorithm which analyses online 'buzz'? Or do they result from several chin-stroking debates amongst various journalistic film-school types?

The latter plus a Swedish Squid called Frankie who dips occasionally into two cauldrons and plucks balls from each. One cauldron is marked hit and the other miss. Its all pretty scientific and to make sure everything is above board its adjudicated by a chain smoking chimp called Peter.

I thought Frankie was German! Plus; it's actually a board of chimps that adjudicate everything; Peter is just the chair.............chimp. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 05 August, 2012, 02:42:58 AM
Quote from: judgeblake on 05 August, 2012, 02:24:37 AM
I thought Frankie was German!

No, you're thinking of an English octopus, living in Germany, called Paul.

Just as well it wasn't him, people would confuse the two of them with the dickie birds that were in that band with the girl who later teamed up with the mouse and the dog who lived at the top of a block of flats.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 05 August, 2012, 04:39:40 AM
Quote from: judgeblake on 05 August, 2012, 02:24:37 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 05 August, 2012, 02:21:27 AM
Quote from: MattJW on 05 August, 2012, 02:14:51 AM
So - these box office predictions at boxoffice.com.... how exactly do they work them out? Do they run an algorithm which analyses online 'buzz'? Or do they result from several chin-stroking debates amongst various journalistic film-school types?

The latter plus a Swedish Squid called Frankie who dips occasionally into two cauldrons and plucks balls from each. One cauldron is marked hit and the other miss. Its all pretty scientific and to make sure everything is above board its adjudicated by a chain smoking chimp called Peter.

I thought Frankie was German! Plus; it's actually a board of chimps that adjudicate everything; Peter is just the chair.............chimp. :D

My bad I clean forgot about "Le Board Du Chimp" :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 05 August, 2012, 08:58:26 AM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 04 August, 2012, 07:51:01 PM
I drove into Southampton city centre today and was greeted by a massive Dredd teaser poster near the translation/BBC building. Not sure if the link will work as I'm on an iOS-thingy...

(http://db.tt/tRloWyBr)


Hey, they spelt Judgement with an 'e'!  Is it differing between territories?!?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 05 August, 2012, 10:14:41 AM
There is, although it's questionable whether they needed to for British English, as Judgment in a legal context seems to be the same for US and British English

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_%28law%29#Spelling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_%28law%29#Spelling)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 05 August, 2012, 10:32:39 AM
People on the net were picking at the difference in spelling and so they probably thought to nip it in the bud for the non-net potential pickers.

Loving it. Will keep my eyes peeled in London. ANd did you see the Metro in London saying the final poster looked like TDKR? Maybe I'm expecting too much, but considering this is a British comic and production, I wish they'd done a bit more research and showed the original comic image and highlighted the huge good points - instead we get, ooh looks like TDKR poster. Buggeritall.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 05 August, 2012, 12:26:18 PM
Also: "It looks like the Daredevil Poster" (although nobody seemed to think the Batman poster looked like the  Daredevil poster,- so go figure): but it doesn't ,- it looks like Dredd, as depicted 'standing four-square for justice' in 'America'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 05 August, 2012, 02:23:09 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 05 August, 2012, 08:58:26 AM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 04 August, 2012, 07:51:01 PM
I drove into Southampton city centre today and was greeted by a massive Dredd teaser poster near the translation/BBC building

Hey, they spelt Judgement with an 'e'!  Is it differing between territories?!?

Can't remember seeing any UK hoardings advertising Pearl Harbor (2001), so I'd imagine that's the case. When Heaven 17 were releasing Penthouse and Pavement (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpmdHPEmca0) in the US, they kept the anglicised version of the name- but they were capitalising on the mystique, glamour and sophisticated allure their native Sheffield held for US audiences.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 August, 2012, 03:16:07 PM
Quote from: MattJW on 05 August, 2012, 02:14:51 AM
So - these box office predictions at boxoffice.com.... how exactly do they work them out? Do they run an algorithm which analyses online 'buzz'? Or do they result from several chin-stroking debates amongst various journalistic film-school types?


It's not an easy thing to predict with an outlier like Dredd but there's always a possibility they can't 'actuarialise' all variables.


I know youtube hits don't equate with box-office takings but Dredd on both its official Machinima & Lionsgate channels has had more individual views (approx. 5 million) than the latest Resident Evil: Retribution trailer - released a week before - on its equivalents channels (approx. 4 million). Resident Evil is of course an allready succesful franchise, Dredd isn't.

Dredd Opening Weekend: $13,000,000 [proj.] | Total Domestic Gross: $35,000,000 [pred.]

Resident Evil: Retribution: Opening Weekend: $23,000,000 [proj.] | Total Domestic Gross: $52,000,000 [pred.]


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 05 August, 2012, 08:58:08 PM
Another unofficial good word about Dredd on empire Forum.

'Went to a press screening of this a few weeks ago. it was pretty good and a definite 18 movie which is refreshing. If you like seeing what someone looks like when a bullet hits them in bullet time slo mo with all the appropriate teeth and brains on show then this is for you!'


http://www.empireonline.com/forum/tm.asp?m=3471084&mpage=1&key=&NID=34795#3472406 (http://www.empireonline.com/forum/tm.asp?m=3471084&mpage=1&key=&NID=34795#3472406)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 05 August, 2012, 09:38:58 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 05 August, 2012, 02:23:09 PM
but they were capitalising on the mystique, glamour and sophisticated allure their native Sheffield held for US audiences.

..................

PWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!    :D

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 August, 2012, 09:43:11 PM
Empire on Facebook just re-post Dredd 3D poster again tonight, very nice!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 05 August, 2012, 09:46:13 PM
Exploding headz with teeth and brains .... In 3d,  excellent.  I wonder who'l'll go see this!?  :oc :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 August, 2012, 01:44:42 AM
Judge Hershey '95 concept art by Emma Porteus:


(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/5179/hersheyconcept1.jpg)



(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/5179/hersheyconcept1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 August, 2012, 01:45:40 AM
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2397/hersheyconcept2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 06 August, 2012, 02:04:34 AM
thats not half bad
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 August, 2012, 02:14:29 AM
Quote from: judgeblake on 06 August, 2012, 02:04:34 AM
thats not half bad



If it were a Star Wars film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 06 August, 2012, 03:25:10 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 August, 2012, 02:14:29 AM
Quote from: judgeblake on 06 August, 2012, 02:04:34 AM
thats not half bad
If it were a Star Wars film.

It had robots, dodgy dialogue, a desert scene, a high-speed hover chase, and clones being bred as an army.  Are you trying to tell me that it wasn't a Star Wars film?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 August, 2012, 03:32:53 AM
You're forgetting James Early Jones.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 August, 2012, 09:11:16 AM
UNDERLINE!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 August, 2012, 09:12:26 AM
Sorry, I just didn't know I could do that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 06 August, 2012, 10:33:04 AM
QuoteIt's not an easy thing to predict with an outlier like Dredd but there's always a possibility they can't 'actuarialise' all variables.


I know youtube hits don't equate with box-office takings but Dredd on both its official Machinima & Lionsgate channels has had more individual views (approx. 5 million) than the latest Resident Evil: Retribution trailer - released a week before - on its equivalents channels (approx. 4 million). Resident Evil is of course an allready succesful franchise, Dredd isn't.

Dredd Opening Weekend: $13,000,000 [proj.] | Total Domestic Gross: $35,000,000 [pred.]

Resident Evil: Retribution: Opening Weekend: $23,000,000 [proj.] | Total Domestic Gross: $52,000,000 [pred.]

I think Resident Evil is a valid comparison - and though it's very hard for me to remain subjective it certainly feels as if DREDD is generating a hell of a lot more buzz and anticipation than Retribution.

I suspect that the Resident Evil Films have a loyal, dedicated (presumably mostly teenage) fanbase and the mainstream couldn't give two shits about the franchise - but DREDD seems to have a lot more mainstream awareness, at least here in the UK. I'm seeing Dredd being blogged/reported on quite mainstream sites and have been asked about it by relative non-geeks - people at work, my brother in law etc.

Whether that will translate into solid box office is anyone's guess though - I certainly agree that DREDD is somewhat of a unique proposition and it's fate is impossible to predict. It could go with a whimper and take $30m US, but at this stage it certainly has the potential to be the sleeper hit of the year.

As gratifying as it is that the filmmakers have refused to compromise over the violence, am I alone in wishing they'd aimed for more of a 15 certificate? As has been pointed out, Dredd isn't an especially violent comic as these things go and it'd be a real shame if the violence and certificate ends up denting the box office to the extent that we don't get a sequel. Maybe DREDD will be one of those films that suffer because lots of under-18s will buy tickets for another film and sneak in?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Leigh S on 06 August, 2012, 10:51:54 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 August, 2012, 02:14:29 AM
Quote from: judgeblake on 06 August, 2012, 02:04:34 AM
thats not half bad



If it were a Star Wars film.

Or a strontium Dog film
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 06 August, 2012, 10:58:21 AM
Quote from: radiator on 06 August, 2012, 10:33:04 AMAs gratifying as it is that the filmmakers have refused to compromise over the violence, am I alone in wishing they'd aimed for more of a 15 certificate? As has been pointed out, Dredd isn't an especially violent comic as these things go and it'd be a real shame if the violence and certificate ends up denting the box office to the extent that we don't get a sequel.

Nonsense!  Dredd has to have sex and gore and swearing because that is what makes a film mature!  Besides, the last Dredd film wasn't violent enough and that is why it failed - it is literally the only problem with that movie.

I think Dredd has had more Youtube hits because less people know what it is compared to Resident Evil and have to check the trailer to know what people are banging on about, while there have been something like 8 RE films and they are interchangeable to the point that their audience doesn't need to see a trailer as they know what they're getting by now.  That, and I suspect a great many of its audience only decide to watch it on the spur of the moment when they get to the cinema and decide what film they want to be in the background while they have a natter for 90 minutes and eat their evening meal.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 06 August, 2012, 12:35:41 PM
Lack of violence is the only problem with Slys Dredd? You need to watch more films mate, there were many problems with that shite and tits and gore was the last thing that springs to mind. :)

Bad script,crap direction,terrible acting.....Batman and Robin had less wrong with it.

Codpiece says it all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 06 August, 2012, 12:46:27 PM
I believe that the Professor's use of italics for the word 'only' here, indicate sarcasm: ( is always with the jokes on this crrazy internet).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 06 August, 2012, 02:48:54 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 06 August, 2012, 12:46:27 PM
I believe that the Professor's use of italics for the word 'only' here, indicate sarcasm: ( is always with the jokes on this crrazy internet).
I thought?....blaming my small i phone screen and a head cold/weaponized manflu symptoms.I see  it clearly now on my laptop.

*shuffles off*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 06 August, 2012, 04:34:48 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 06 August, 2012, 12:35:41 PM
Batman and Robin had less wrong with it.

Judge Dredd had it's problems, but I wouldn't go that far.

And that's coming from someone who liked Batman Forever.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 06 August, 2012, 05:56:00 PM
The Dredd effect has infiltrated the Olympics.

Overheard someone earlier saying that the cycling helmets used by the riders at the Velodrome reminded them of Judge Dredd...then commented to his mate that there was a new Dredd filming coming out that "looked cool"... ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 06 August, 2012, 06:33:30 PM
Quote from: judgeblake on 06 August, 2012, 02:04:34 AM
thats not half bad
More to the point, it's not a million miles away (bearing in mind it's concept art) from what we're getting in the new film—a more 'armoured' take on the original outfit. And it certainly beats Versace's dire efforts.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 06 August, 2012, 07:31:17 PM
As a design it's OK - more stront than Dredd, just lacks any of the design of the original apart from the helmet and badge.

Doubtful how well it works in raising the arm above the shoulder as well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 06 August, 2012, 07:45:15 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 06 August, 2012, 10:58:21 AM
Nonsense!  Dredd has to have sex and gore and swearing because that is what makes a film mature!  Besides, the last Dredd film wasn't violent enough and that is why it failed - it is literally the only problem with that movie.

I suspect a great many of (Resident Evil's) audience only decide to watch it on the spur of the moment when they get to the cinema and decide what film they want to be in the background while they have a natter for 90 minutes and eat their evening meal.

I'm not sure whether the use of 3D will affect my experience of watching Dredd at the pictures, but I am fucking certain that the stench of nacho cheese will.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 August, 2012, 10:46:58 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 06 August, 2012, 06:33:30 PM
More to the point, it's not a million miles away (bearing in mind it's concept art) from what we're getting in the new film—a more 'armoured' take on the original outfit. And it certainly beats Versace's dire efforts.



It's definitely more 'Sci-fi' but also not instantly recognisable as Dredd which is the clincher.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 August, 2012, 10:54:00 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 06 August, 2012, 07:45:15 PM
I'm not sure whether the use of 3D will affect my experience of watching Dredd at the pictures, but I am fucking certain that the stench of nacho cheese will.


I advise washing the nether regions thoroughly brfore leaving the house.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 06 August, 2012, 11:18:54 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 August, 2012, 10:46:58 PMIt's definitely more 'Sci-fi' but also not instantly recognisable as Dredd which is the clincher.
To be fair, it's a single piece of concept art. Concept art very often goes off at tangents, which provides ideas that are then worked into the final design. I'll bet if the upcoming movie's concept art is ever released, we'll see a number of similarly diverse treatments of aspects of Dredd's world.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 August, 2012, 11:28:10 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 06 August, 2012, 11:18:54 PM
To be fair, it's a single piece of concept art. Concept art very often goes off at tangents, which provides ideas that are then worked into the final design. I'll bet if the upcoming movie's concept art is ever released, we'll see a number of similarly diverse treatments of aspects of Dredd's world.


Concept art is all about tangents - there are always many - and the fact they didn't use it meant they knew it wasn't the thing, but, it does indicate the concept that was behind the concepts that Cannon was suggesting, as in a cross between Star Wars and Ben Hur.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 06 August, 2012, 11:40:57 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 06 August, 2012, 04:34:48 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 06 August, 2012, 12:35:41 PM
Batman and Robin had less wrong with it.

Judge Dredd had it's problems, but I wouldn't go that far.

And that's coming from someone who liked Batman Forever.

Batman and Robin was the best of the Burton era films.
That is all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 August, 2012, 12:01:09 AM
There's a special place in hell for Burton/Schumacher.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeblake on 07 August, 2012, 12:58:58 AM
Batman 1989 was a good film, loved Nicholson as Joker, loved Keaton's version of Batman. Batman Returns was quite annoying, I liked michelle pfeiffer in teh catwoman costume....thats about it lol Batman forever was drivel but vaguely enjoyable at the time.....and Batman and robin is a film that never should have happened. Nolan was in Empire or some magazine saying he liked Burton's first Batman film I think.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 07 August, 2012, 01:41:39 AM
In embracing its own stupidity, Batman and Robin transcended the pompous Burton legacy of superhero films and their audiences that are ashamed of themselves and overcompensate with juvenile wangst and gothy trappings.  It is outrageous nonsense completely without pretension and I love every minute of it to the point that every time I defend it I start kicking myself for not having it on blu ray already, which I am doing now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 07 August, 2012, 01:42:28 AM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 07 August, 2012, 01:41:39 AM
In embracing its own stupidity, Batman and Robin transcended the pompous Burton legacy of superhero films and their audiences that are ashamed of themselves.  It is outrageous nonsense completely without pretension and I love every minute of it to the point that every time I defend it I start kicking myself for not having it on blu ray already, which I am doing now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 07 August, 2012, 01:43:14 AM
What the..?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 07 August, 2012, 07:25:18 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 August, 2012, 10:54:00 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 06 August, 2012, 07:45:15 PM
I'm not sure whether the use of 3D will affect my experience of watching Dredd at the pictures, but I am fucking certain that the stench of nacho cheese will.

I advise washing the nether regions thoroughly brfore leaving the house.

I see what's happened here; Nachos are like little slices of potato, made from something called corn. They come from another village far away, called Mexico; where the people have no potatos.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 07 August, 2012, 08:51:38 AM
Quote from: bikini kill on 07 August, 2012, 07:25:18 AM...where the people have no potatoes.

That's crazy talk.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 07 August, 2012, 09:06:36 AM
I really liked Batman Returns  :-\ Penguins with rocket launchers!!  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 07 August, 2012, 09:47:17 AM
Quote from: judgeblake on 07 August, 2012, 12:58:58 AM
Batman 1989 was a good film

I like both Batman Begins and Burton's Batman for their opposing takes on the material: Burton tried to create a world in which Batman would make sense; Nolan tries to create a Batman who makes sense in the world.*

Having said that, I liked Burton's Batman right up until they sacrifice character coherence for a cheap dramatic pay-off, which ruins the entire movie for me. The moment they make the Joker the killer of Thomas and Martha Wayne, they show that they've failed to understand Batman at the most fundamental level: if Bruce Wayne could get his hands on the man who killed his parents, then he wouldn't NEED to be Batman.

Cheers

Jim

*I know the world of Batman Begins is still divorced from the 'real' world, but resembles it enough to stand in as a proxy, as opposed to Burton's unashamedly fantastic synthesis of gothic and noir elements for his Gotham.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mogzilla on 07 August, 2012, 10:37:37 AM
Quote from: bikini kill on 07 August, 2012, 07:25:18 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 August, 2012, 10:54:00 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 06 August, 2012, 07:45:15 PM
I'm not sure whether the use of 3D will affect my experience of watching Dredd at the pictures, but I am fucking certain that the stench of nacho cheese will.

I advise washing the nether regions thoroughly brfore leaving the house.

I see what's happened here; Nachos are like little slices of potato, made from something called corn. They come from another village far away, called Mexico; where the people have no potatos.

YES COME ON JOE! wtf are you playing at with your so-called "humour" ? the mexicans dont have potatoes ! think of the children !! no chip butties!!!   ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 August, 2012, 08:14:10 PM
FULL-RES DREDD (http://www.lionsgatepublicity.com/epk/dredd/images/ka1_300dpi.jpg) POSTER



(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2074/ka1300dpi.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 07 August, 2012, 08:15:52 PM
Was that supposed to be cropped?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 07 August, 2012, 08:17:01 PM
Arg. Click the damn link. Thanks, Joe.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 August, 2012, 09:47:30 PM
I put the big one as my desktop and it looked a lot more pixilated then the smaller one. Strange...

Also the big one looks darker.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 August, 2012, 09:50:28 PM
I think you used the wrong one. The smaller version is the darker of the 2.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 August, 2012, 04:40:15 AM
Will there be another trailer before the film opens do you think ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 08 August, 2012, 07:28:29 AM
I suspect not, but there's bound to be a clip or two.
The early scene in the HoJ would be my bet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 August, 2012, 09:30:36 AM
Might get some tv spots, culled from the trailer - although I doubt there'd be much slo-mo for the limited time they have for that.

I guess they could show the clip shown at LFCC.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 August, 2012, 10:37:15 AM
Hopefully it dont overkill with too many TV clips or trailers like The Dark Knight Rises, Prometheus and Spider-man.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 August, 2012, 10:39:38 AM
The US may well get another trailer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 August, 2012, 10:41:26 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 August, 2012, 10:39:38 AM
The US may well get another trailer.

On 7th September?  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 August, 2012, 10:44:35 AM
I suspect they'll trailer the shit out of it, probably even release extended clips online. I hope not, but Dredd seems to be one of those films, you know?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 August, 2012, 11:09:03 AM
One month or so to go.

Then it's 'D' day.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 August, 2012, 11:14:36 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 August, 2012, 11:09:03 AM
One month or so to go.

Then it's 'D' day.

it's 7th August yesterday. so 30 days till 7th Sept!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 August, 2012, 11:30:12 AM
Advertising? What about 'zip' ads where you get about 10 seconds worth of spiel on TV or mobile phone? Cheaper than a full 30 second advert on TV that's for sure.

Can you sell the gist of the DREDD Movie in 10 seconds? Ah that is the question.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 08 August, 2012, 11:59:29 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 August, 2012, 04:40:15 AM
Will there be another trailer before the film opens do you think ?

The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/search) has two film trailers listed on its site. The second one was classified almost a month ago and clocks in at 2 mins 22 secs, a second shorter than the trailer released in June. No confirmation yet of the film itself's certificate.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 08 August, 2012, 01:00:15 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 August, 2012, 11:30:12 AM
Advertising? What about 'zip' ads where you get about 10 seconds worth of spiel on TV or mobile phone? Cheaper than a full 30 second advert on TV that's for sure.

Can you sell the gist of the DREDD Movie in 10 seconds? Ah that is the question.
What and risk this happening.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUxsvbbAIo4



V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 August, 2012, 01:03:32 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 08 August, 2012, 10:37:15 AM
Hopefully it dont overkill with too many TV clips or trailers like The Dark Knight Rises, Prometheus and Spider-man.

I don't watch much TV and didn't see trailers for either film.

On radio though, The Raid was all over the place, to the point of being annoying.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 August, 2012, 01:33:07 PM
Quote from: Stan on 08 August, 2012, 01:03:32 PM

I don't watch much TV and didn't see trailers for either film.

On radio though, The Raid was all over the place, to the point of being annoying.

Sorry as I am Deaf, so radio really useless to me, but how annoyed was it with the Raid on it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 August, 2012, 02:08:19 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 08 August, 2012, 01:33:07 PM
Quote from: Stan on 08 August, 2012, 01:03:32 PM

I don't watch much TV and didn't see trailers for either film.

On radio though, The Raid was all over the place, to the point of being annoying.

Sorry as I am Deaf, so radio really useless to me, but how annoyed was it with the Raid on it?

Well I only listen to Smooth Radio and Absolute 80's but every commercial break seemed to have a trailer for The Raid. Maybe I just like to be contrarian for the sake of it but the constant hype put me right off.

The film itself was decent though, when I eventually got around to it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 August, 2012, 02:39:51 PM
Quote from: Eric Plumrose on 08 August, 2012, 11:59:29 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 August, 2012, 04:40:15 AM
Will there be another trailer before the film opens do you think ?

The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/search) has two film trailers listed on its site. The second one was classified almost a month ago and clocks in at 2 mins 22 secs, a second shorter than the trailer released in June. No confirmation yet of the film itself's certificate.


It's the same trailer classified twice for whatever reason or change.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 08 August, 2012, 03:24:08 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 August, 2012, 02:39:51 PM
Quote from: Eric Plumrose on 08 August, 2012, 11:59:29 AM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 08 August, 2012, 04:40:15 AM
Will there be another trailer before the film opens do you think ?

The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/search) has two film trailers listed on its site. The second one was classified almost a month ago and clocks in at 2 mins 22 secs, a second shorter than the trailer released in June. No confirmation yet of the film itself's certificate.

It's the same trailer classified twice for whatever reason or change.

According to the BBFC's fee calculator (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/customers/fees/fee-calculator/), that one second cost DNA/Lionsgate one hundred and forty-five quid (incl. VAT). That could've gone towards giving Karl a shave and a codpiece.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 August, 2012, 03:44:18 PM
This probably doesn't need a spoiler warning for those who've seen the trailer, but be advised..

Total Recall and Dredd With IMDb's Keith Simanton
http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/08/07/total-recall-and-dredd-with-imdbs-keith-simanton/

"Without spoiling too much, there's a shot in the film where a character is thrown from the 200th floor or whatever, and the point of view shot that you get when they land is the face landing in slow-motion on the camera lens."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 August, 2012, 03:49:19 PM
On a completely unrelated note, can someone link me to Lena Headey's fanpage? It isn't showing up in Facebook search.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 08 August, 2012, 04:03:10 PM
http://www.facebook.com/LenaHeadeyOfficialFanPage
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 August, 2012, 06:07:39 PM
Danke, sir.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 08 August, 2012, 07:39:15 PM
Lena Headey pronounced "He-D".....learned something today and recently divorced on top of it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 08 August, 2012, 11:43:43 PM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 08 August, 2012, 07:39:15 PM
Lena Headey pronounced "He-D".....learned something today and recently divorced on top of it.

She certainly is one hot mama.  (See what I did there?)  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 August, 2012, 01:32:09 AM
In Russia, it gets the full title: JUDGE DREDD (http://media.kino-govno.com/movies/d/dredd/posters/dredd_3.jpg)

Я - ЗAKOH = I Am The Law


(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8033/dredd3.jpg)


(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/JudgeDredd23_00fc.jpg)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 09 August, 2012, 03:01:49 AM
Now translate the cover of issue 23.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 August, 2012, 08:39:12 AM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 09 August, 2012, 03:01:49 AM
Now translate the cover of issue 23.


Roughly: "Judge Dredd represents the Law of this you will not doubt" or  "Judge Dredd is the Law and you'd better believe it" which is what it says on issue one of Dredd Eagle comics no. 1.


The word in the book is "October".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 August, 2012, 08:44:38 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 09 August, 2012, 08:39:12 AM
The word in the book is "October".


Or rather it means "Revolution". The ribbon beneath it says "7 October, Great Revolution USSR".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 09 August, 2012, 09:07:05 AM
I think Brian missed a bit where he could put a hammer and sickle.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 09 August, 2012, 09:59:51 AM
Is it me, or does that poster look even cooler in Russian?!?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 August, 2012, 10:14:33 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 09 August, 2012, 09:07:05 AM
I think Brian missed a bit where he could put a hammer and sickle.


The gun looks naked.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 August, 2012, 10:17:01 AM
I think Russians would like to see different poster with American flag...  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 August, 2012, 10:17:59 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 09 August, 2012, 09:59:51 AM
Is it me, or does that poster look even cooler in Russian?!?


It looks like propaganda. The Cyrillic alphabet looks great anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 August, 2012, 01:14:14 PM
Haha that's cool!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buddy on 09 August, 2012, 01:22:43 PM
Don't know if it's been discussed before but there appears to be two zebras having sex graffitied on to left side of the corner of the building Dredd is standing atop....

That's odd....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 09 August, 2012, 02:44:00 PM
It is odd, as is the phrase "God is an imaginary friend for adults".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 August, 2012, 11:16:44 PM
Not sure if we got it as it looks similar to first ever photo but it looks like a new photo;

(http://i.imgur.com/6RQ6w.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 August, 2012, 11:19:05 PM
It's the one from the last Empire mag.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 August, 2012, 11:19:44 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 09 August, 2012, 11:19:05 PM
It's the one from the last Empire mag.

Unscanned image then!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 09 August, 2012, 11:34:13 PM
28 days to go!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 August, 2012, 11:38:49 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 09 August, 2012, 11:34:13 PM
28 days to go!

Even that by DNA Films!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 August, 2012, 09:21:56 AM
This was posted on the minty page.

(Not sure if it will work as it's FB)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/376197_4515349520439_1978180525_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 August, 2012, 09:33:01 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 10 August, 2012, 09:21:56 AM
This was posted on the minty page.

(Not sure if it will work as it's FB)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/376197_4515349520439_1978180525_n.jpg)

I like it! Sort of Graffiti tag like Chopper?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 August, 2012, 09:36:20 AM
I think it might have been more inspired by one of Jock's covers which had Dredd graffiti.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 August, 2012, 01:44:01 PM
Holy shit! Only 28 days. That will fly by!

That graffiti looks badass too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 August, 2012, 02:26:02 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 August, 2012, 01:44:01 PM
Holy shit! Only 28 days. That will fly by!

That graffiti looks badass too.

27 now  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 10 August, 2012, 02:40:42 PM
Do we know the exact date for the soundtrack? Leonard says the beginning of September.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 August, 2012, 02:46:53 PM
Great bit of advertising that (un-American) graffiti art!

The promotional guys really haven't put a foot wrong!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 10 August, 2012, 03:16:54 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 10 August, 2012, 02:46:53 PM
The promotional guys really haven't put a foot wrong!  :thumbsup:

May print out and frame this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 10 August, 2012, 03:17:59 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 10 August, 2012, 09:21:56 AM
This was posted on the minty page.

Now THAT'S an eye-catching poster.  Perfect use of iconography.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 August, 2012, 03:33:03 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 10 August, 2012, 03:16:54 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 10 August, 2012, 02:46:53 PM
The promotional guys really haven't put a foot wrong!  :thumbsup:

May print out and frame this.

:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 10 August, 2012, 03:35:00 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 10 August, 2012, 03:16:54 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 10 August, 2012, 02:46:53 PM
The promotional guys really haven't put a foot wrong!  :thumbsup:

May print out and frame this.

Don't be too hasty. Just wait until we start bitching about the sequel campaign.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 10 August, 2012, 03:57:39 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 10 August, 2012, 09:21:56 AM

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/376197_4515349520439_1978180525_n.jpg)

Can we have that large on a t-shirt please (without the writing). Perhaps having the print oversized and off centre/rotated so it looks kinda abstract.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 August, 2012, 04:01:39 PM
Quote from: James on 10 August, 2012, 03:57:39 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 10 August, 2012, 09:21:56 AM

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/376197_4515349520439_1978180525_n.jpg)

Can we have that large on a t-shirt please (without the writing). Perhaps having the print oversized and off centre/rotated so it looks kinda abstract.

A t-shirt of that image would be awesome!

Make it happen somebody!

Officially of course!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 August, 2012, 04:01:53 PM
Yay, Dredd is finally listed on my local cinema's website. Still can't book though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 August, 2012, 04:03:18 PM
P.s I think that banner would have been better then the actual teaser poster. It is fookin rad.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 August, 2012, 04:04:33 PM
Quote from: Stan on 10 August, 2012, 02:40:42 PM
Do we know the exact date for the soundtrack? Leonard says the beginning of September.


Yeah! Need that soundtrack!

Hopefully soon! I see Amazon is listing the Dredd 3D blu-ray for registering interest!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 August, 2012, 04:05:43 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 10 August, 2012, 04:04:33 PM
Quote from: Stan on 10 August, 2012, 02:40:42 PM
Do we know the exact date for the soundtrack? Leonard says the beginning of September.


Yeah! Need that soundtrack!

Hopefully soon! I see Amazon is listing the Dredd 3D blu-ray for registering interest!  :D


That's Amazon UK by the way!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 August, 2012, 04:12:02 PM
More of Ma-Ma...

(http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx245/karla2_03/Captures/jaimie%20r/caesar/dc2k/dck2/dredd5.jpg)

I prefer this!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/418627_467572506599936_351561514_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 10 August, 2012, 04:27:06 PM
That banner helmet pic would make a great little tattoo
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 10 August, 2012, 05:18:29 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 10 August, 2012, 04:01:39 PM
Quote from: James on 10 August, 2012, 03:57:39 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 10 August, 2012, 09:21:56 AM

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/376197_4515349520439_1978180525_n.jpg)

Can we have that large on a t-shirt please (without the writing). Perhaps having the print oversized and off centre/rotated so it looks kinda abstract.

A t-shirt of that image would be awesome!

Make it happen somebody!

Officially of course!  ;)

Agree would love a tee of that!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 August, 2012, 06:40:34 PM
2000AD post this on facebook;

http://collider.com/dredd-poster-dredd-outdoor-billboard/188004/ (http://collider.com/dredd-poster-dredd-outdoor-billboard/188004/)

(http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/Dredd-poster-outdoor-billboard.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JUDGE BURNS on 10 August, 2012, 09:04:22 PM
Hey guys ..Guess what I picked up from my local ODEON cinema ( KILMARNOCK )  a 7 foot high DREDD standee. I got first dibs on it weeks ago and got the phone call today to collect it. It is now in my youngest son's bedroom. He is a happy wee boy. :D   have you got your yet Judge Burdis???
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 August, 2012, 09:08:36 PM
We have to wait till the film is out before we can collect our stuff. Shame on your ODEON manager, I shall be making sure he serves 10 years in the cube for not following procedure  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2012, 11:47:14 PM
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/424246_509414245752006_389844073_n.jpg)



http://www.facebook.com/cineworld
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 August, 2012, 12:52:56 AM
Nice.

And this kind've answers my earlier question..
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=325379517552022&id=188200017936640&notif_t=feed_comment_reply
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 August, 2012, 12:43:59 PM
It's Here!
As was on bus in Gateshead, I notice this billboard!

(http://i.imgur.com/THWKn.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 11 August, 2012, 01:11:27 PM
Heh. Brilliant. (http://www.scifinow.co.uk/news/dredd-new-banner-poster/)

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 August, 2012, 01:55:05 PM
That's great...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rex Banner on 11 August, 2012, 01:57:36 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 11 August, 2012, 01:11:27 PM
Heh. Brilliant. (http://www.scifinow.co.uk/news/dredd-new-banner-poster/)

Cheers

Jim

Looks photoshopped.....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 11 August, 2012, 02:11:27 PM
Quote from: Rex Banner on 11 August, 2012, 01:57:36 PM
Looks photoshopped.....

By you? (Tracking the Twitter back from the ScifiNow page...)

If so: nicely done. Witty, too.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 11 August, 2012, 03:28:50 PM
Krill tro Thargo to the squaxx who does a real one...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rex Banner on 11 August, 2012, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 11 August, 2012, 02:11:27 PM
Quote from: Rex Banner on 11 August, 2012, 01:57:36 PM
Looks photoshopped.....

By you? (Tracking the Twitter back from the ScifiNow page...)

If so: nicely done. Witty, too.

Cheers

Jim

Thank you.

Yes, I did it but didn't intend for it to Sci Fi  Now to put it up.

Still, extra bit of publicity can't hurt.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 August, 2012, 09:02:53 PM
Spread the Dredd love...

(http://i.imgur.com/u7WdJ.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 12 August, 2012, 12:12:03 AM
hehe very good goaty you could have started something here. That sphinx looks especially good.

A note for our North American squaxx post photos of the billboards stateside please!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 12 August, 2012, 02:40:36 AM
Haven't seen any yet. Would think if the UK ones are anything to go by, it'll be a month before the opening so maybe after the 21st over here...? Can't wait to see them...!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 August, 2012, 03:29:52 AM
The graffiti poster is a US poster. It has the 'JUDGMENT' spelling.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 August, 2012, 09:22:19 AM
I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic or I missed the obvious gag.

And even though this is basically the movie design, I love this pic. Not that I had a problem with lycra-Hershey to begin with..

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/08/11/these-judge-dredd-95-costume-concepts-by-versace-wont-convince-you-to-give-the-film-another-chance/

(http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads//2012/08/hershey-492x1000.jpg?848685)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 12 August, 2012, 09:34:23 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 August, 2012, 09:02:53 PM
Spread the Dredd love...

(http://i.imgur.com/u7WdJ.jpg?1)

:lol: Yes, love the Chopper one  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 August, 2012, 01:32:24 PM
Love the one on the Statue of Liberty. Kind of a symbol...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on 12 August, 2012, 01:47:54 PM
Quote from: Stan on 12 August, 2012, 09:22:19 AM
I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic or I missed the obvious gag.

And even though this is basically the movie design, I love this pic. Not that I had a problem with lycra-Hershey to begin with..

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/08/11/these-judge-dredd-95-costume-concepts-by-versace-wont-convince-you-to-give-the-film-another-chance/

(http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads//2012/08/hershey-492x1000.jpg?848685)

Was that by Dermot Power by any chance?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 12 August, 2012, 03:21:20 PM
Quote from: Dirty Sanchez on 12 August, 2012, 01:47:54 PM
Was that by Dermot Power by any chance?

Much as I like Dermot Power -- and he is a very talented fella -- most of his images for the Stallone Dredd movie looked like photos run through a Photoshop "slightly posterised" filter (IMHO, that is).  Was there a reason for this?

Evidence for the prosecution:

(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/megazine/hires/2.83.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge macbrayne on 12 August, 2012, 03:28:49 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 August, 2012, 09:02:53 PM
Spread the Dredd love...

(http://i.imgur.com/u7WdJ.jpg?1)
How did you put that on your avatar.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 12 August, 2012, 04:18:38 PM
Was Photoshop around in 94?






V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 12 August, 2012, 04:34:00 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 12 August, 2012, 04:18:38 PM
Was Photoshop around in 94?

Yes. In fact, it moved to version 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop_version_history), which added Layers as a feature. In all honesty, that was the last time a PS upgrade had a "This changes everything" feel to it, although the addition of the History palette in v5 maybe comes close...

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 12 August, 2012, 04:36:13 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 12 August, 2012, 04:18:38 PM
Was Photoshop around in 94?

... and it was certainly recognisable as the program we know and love today.

http://netdna.webdesignerdepot.com/uploads/evolution_of_photoshop/ps-3.jpg
http://netdna.webdesignerdepot.com/uploads/evolution_of_photoshop/workspace3.jpg
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 12 August, 2012, 06:10:50 PM
Everyday is a schoolday.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 12 August, 2012, 06:31:49 PM
That was about the time I was finishing my HND in computer based art/design, I remember the Macs being upgraded and the new PS having Layers and everyone being so excited.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 12 August, 2012, 06:39:15 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 August, 2012, 03:29:52 AM
The graffiti poster is a US poster. It has the 'JUDGMENT' spelling.

I spoke too soon, Joe. Dropping the kid off for a birthday party this morning and as I'm stuck at the lights I see one at a bus shelter. He's coming!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 12 August, 2012, 07:00:33 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 12 August, 2012, 03:21:20 PM
Quote from: Dirty Sanchez on 12 August, 2012, 01:47:54 PM
Was that by Dermot Power by any chance?

Much as I like Dermot Power -- and he is a very talented fella -- most of his images for the Stallone Dredd movie looked like photos run through a Photoshop "slightly posterised" filter (IMHO, that is)

Despite first encountering his work through computer games magazines and advertising, I can't remember much evidence of The Power Unit using anything more technologically advanced than an airbrush back then.

The publicity images he produced for the Stallone film displayed such obvious brush work, I had always assumed that he was painting over photographs with gouache. I thought the idea was to produce images of the wonky film costume that approximated the textures - if not the actual designs - of the Dredd strip at that time, to win over sceptical readers.

The look of the publicity material Power produced for the Megazine and 2000ad is certainly very different to the brilliant concept art he produced for the film itself:

(http://www.propbay.com/attachments/original/5967d1343063572-max-von-sydow-fargo-concept-dermot-power-fargo1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 August, 2012, 07:33:46 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 12 August, 2012, 04:18:38 PM
Was Photoshop around in 94?

V

This was actually the year I took my first typesetter job so I can answer with a yes. Even though I've already been beaten to it.

And now I feel depressingly old.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklarr on 12 August, 2012, 10:33:13 PM
Judge Dredds boot! Link to the company which supplied them:

http://www.shoemaking.co.uk/photogallery/photogallery1.html

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e286/Judge_Aberg/Dreddboot.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 August, 2012, 11:40:02 PM
I'll take two.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: LARF on 13 August, 2012, 10:17:24 AM
Yep photoshop was around in '94. I was using it in my first design job from Feb '93.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 13 August, 2012, 11:25:19 AM
Well whether they were touched up photos or just heavily photo referenced the Dermot Power pics are obvious acrylic paintings and have little to no digital PhotoShop manipulation judging by these examples.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 August, 2012, 12:13:19 PM
Just three weeks to go...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 August, 2012, 12:52:52 PM
OOh now Dredd 3D website been updated, with the latest poster,
http://www.dreddthemovie.com/#/en/home (http://www.dreddthemovie.com/#/en/home)

I notice in Synopsis link, there is new Dredd picture (same of Dredd with Mega-City in background but this one with zoom in with more Judges...)

(http://oi47.tinypic.com/2icac7b.jpg)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 13 August, 2012, 02:00:26 PM
The red square that shows around the head of the 1st Judge to the right of Dredd has the date Sept 21st 2134 show up. Not that this is really going to tie in with the actual film, but interesting none-the-less  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 August, 2012, 02:02:28 PM
Quote from: Stu101 on 13 August, 2012, 02:00:26 PM
The red square that shows around the head of the 1st Judge to the right of Dredd has the date Sept 21st 2134 show up. Not that this is really going to tie in with the actual film, but interesting none-the-less  :)

Could be his DOB?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 13 August, 2012, 02:19:14 PM
Current continuity is 2134. US release date is 27th September. Simples.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 13 August, 2012, 04:29:42 PM
Quote from: nicklarr on 12 August, 2012, 10:33:13 PM
Judge Dredds boot! Link to the company which supplied them:

http://www.shoemaking.co.uk/photogallery/photogallery1.html

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e286/Judge_Aberg/Dreddboot.jpg)
Aww man I need some new bike boots too,wonder how much they would go for,going off the website they would make some.No cheap is my guess.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 13 August, 2012, 08:04:22 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c0.0.843.403/p843x403/580963_469396303084223_514082157_n.jpg)

Just appeared on FB
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 13 August, 2012, 11:12:11 PM
Apologies if this has already been asked.

Went down to my local Vue Cinema today and asked if I could take the Dredd posters off their hands when the release finished but was told all material is sent back to the distributers.Anybody had any luck with this?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 August, 2012, 11:41:25 PM
The East-Meg version of судья дредд (http://tr.kinopoisk.ru/437678/kinopoisk.ru-Dredd-111846.mp4).



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 August, 2012, 11:49:58 PM
Bigger version of the Pot-Noodle factory:


(http://mytrailer.ru/uploads/posts/2012-08/1344194197_dredd-3d-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 13 August, 2012, 11:54:09 PM
Is this the bit where Anderson admits she's a lousy cook? :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 August, 2012, 12:13:49 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 August, 2012, 11:49:58 PM
Bigger version of the Pot-Noodle factory:


(http://mytrailer.ru/uploads/posts/2012-08/1344194197_dredd-3d-2.jpg)

Now tell me who think that Judge helmet not right??

It's perfect!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 14 August, 2012, 12:30:46 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 August, 2012, 11:41:25 PM
The East-Meg version of судья дредд (http://tr.kinopoisk.ru/437678/kinopoisk.ru-Dredd-111846.mp4).

Was that supposed to be a trailer? When I hover over it in Firefox it's an MP4 but when I download it it's a shorter-named FLV. Just an intro thing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 August, 2012, 12:41:30 AM
It's a full trailer - dubbed.


http://www.kinopoisk.ru/film/437678/video/t/66161/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 14 August, 2012, 12:54:15 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 13 August, 2012, 11:12:11 PM
Apologies if this has already been asked.

Went down to my local Vue Cinema today and asked if I could take the Dredd posters off their hands when the release finished but was told all material is sent back to the distributers.Anybody had any luck with this?

In my experience, they're very particular about not letting the public get their hands on stuff like that. I guess it's because they want to make money off of selling posters instead as well as not having someone misrepresent the film in any way.

I've heard of one or two rare cases where the demand has been so high, they actually distributed free posters to the public so they wouldn't tear down the official ones.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 14 August, 2012, 01:08:37 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 August, 2012, 11:49:58 PM
Bigger version of the Pot-Noodle factory:


(http://mytrailer.ru/uploads/posts/2012-08/1344194197_dredd-3d-2.jpg)

The helmet looks spot on for me in this pic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 14 August, 2012, 07:27:27 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 August, 2012, 11:41:25 PM
The East-Meg version of судья дредд (http://tr.kinopoisk.ru/437678/kinopoisk.ru-Dredd-111846.mp4).

I'm sure one of the voice cast mentions 'Putin' at some point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 August, 2012, 09:17:41 AM
Oooh high quality of the Poster without title and title itself.

(http://57.imagebam.com/download/OLu22kjlVCTgWnVy-7VD0g/20519/205183339/wallofficial.jpg)

(http://20.imagebam.com/download/ORUK9hGNOxcAey4NXDZXaQ/20519/205183346/white.300dpi.jpg)

(http://22.imagebam.com/download/fENxBb69qNUqpVLmg9w4Rw/20519/205183357/black.300dpi.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 14 August, 2012, 09:27:04 AM
is that fan done? there is some insanely bad photoshopping going on in the bottom 1/4 if not.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 14 August, 2012, 10:42:18 AM
No, it looks like a layer that wouldn't normally be seen - presumably it's to give people flexibility to adapt.

Not sure why this kind of thing has been made public though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 14 August, 2012, 02:02:51 PM
The Dredd posters are on ebay already, which surprised me, thought they would be hard to get hold of.

Picked up two A3 posters -cheap as chips too. Happy days
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 August, 2012, 03:21:47 PM
Of course, you do realise that you've more than likely just bought a 100% unofficial 'poster' that someone has just downloaded off the web and printed out - probably quite badly - at a3 size.

I'd be seriously wary about buying posters/prints etc off eBay.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 14 August, 2012, 03:31:40 PM
They were handing posters out left, right and centre from the Lionsgate stand at SDCC, bundled up with other LG films such as Expendables 2, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot pop up online.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 August, 2012, 03:55:18 PM
Fair enough - but I'd still advise people to be wary. You can generally tell exactly what you're buying if you look carefully at the listing and pictures.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 14 August, 2012, 03:56:52 PM
Mmmm we'll I guess I'll just think happy thoughts until they arrive....I just hope Radiator isn't right, we'll see.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 August, 2012, 03:57:56 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 14 August, 2012, 03:31:40 PM
They were handing posters out left, right and centre from the Lionsgate stand at SDCC, bundled up with other LG films such as Expendables 2, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot pop up online.

Silly question, would those posters got SDCC brands on it...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 14 August, 2012, 04:00:04 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 14 August, 2012, 03:57:56 PM
Silly question, would those posters got SDCC brands on it...?

Yes it is, no they don't.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 August, 2012, 04:00:27 PM
If either of these were the ones you bought, I'd be worried.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Judge-Dredd-A3-Film-POSTER-/330774285644?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D1322447284657233451%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Judge-Dredd-A3-Film-POSTER-/330774285644?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D1322447284657233451%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dredd-film-movie-poster-re-print-A3-A4-/251124857640?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&var=&hash=item3a78353b28 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dredd-film-movie-poster-re-print-A3-A4-/251124857640?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&var=&hash=item3a78353b28)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 14 August, 2012, 04:46:43 PM
I've seen those posters on ebay and just look at what is in the bottom right corner of one of them. There where bods selling the first poster at LFCC, which they had obviously done themselves and they only went up to A3 in size!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 14 August, 2012, 04:50:45 PM
Those are the 2 I've bought radiator.

I thought they'd be alright, I'll let you know how they are when they arrive. Didn't cost too much but if they are crap well you live and learn.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 14 August, 2012, 04:55:37 PM
The first has the Jo Blo watermark on the ebay auction which hints at it being downloaded
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 August, 2012, 04:58:54 PM
Sounds like you've been had, mate.

The dead giveaways are that the seller has many, many prints of the exact same poster to sell - and also that they don't provide any photos of the posters they are selling.

Expect the posters to be very low quality - probably even visibly pixellated - and not professionally printed.

If this turns out to be the case, then file a complaint with eBay and try to get a refund.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 August, 2012, 05:00:31 PM
This one, on the other hand, looks genuine to me.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DREDD-3D-JUDGE-2012-NEW-RARE-MOVIE-FILM-ORIGINAL-UK-CINEMA-POSTER-2000AD-COMIC-/180947723613?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item2a2153255d (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DREDD-3D-JUDGE-2012-NEW-RARE-MOVIE-FILM-ORIGINAL-UK-CINEMA-POSTER-2000AD-COMIC-/180947723613?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item2a2153255d)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 14 August, 2012, 05:59:48 PM
Lionsgate / Rebellion / DNA . . . PR should get the genuine artlcles out there. Looks like there is a demand. As previously mentioned I would buy DREDD 3D merch' prior to film release at top dollar (can't our 2000ad online store sell stuff like this?).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 14 August, 2012, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 14 August, 2012, 05:59:48 PM
(can't our 2000ad online store sell stuff like this?).

Nope.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 August, 2012, 06:41:13 PM
Lionsgate are notoriously, aggressively protective of their IPs.

I expect that any eBay seller violating their copyright is going to be on the receiving end of a cease and desist order pretty sharpish.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 14 August, 2012, 07:59:02 PM
So what films are Dredd competing with on the 7th in the UK and 21st in the US?

This new film from the director of Training Day starring Jake Gylenhaal appears to be opening at the same time (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/08/14/red-band-trailer-for-end-of-watch-takes-the-pov-of-cops-behaving-badly (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/08/14/red-band-trailer-for-end-of-watch-takes-the-pov-of-cops-behaving-badly)). Also appears to be violent cops blowing people up!

P.T. Anderson's new film The Master is also out on the 21st which looks to be pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Woolly on 14 August, 2012, 08:50:07 PM
Not sure if this has been posted anywhere, apologies if it has.
BBC news site has a feature on Dredd and his Scottish influence, mentions the movie too.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-19014995
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Woolly on 14 August, 2012, 08:55:26 PM
Just actually read the article - nothing to do with the movie at all!  :-[
Nice little read though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 15 August, 2012, 11:10:23 AM
NEW footage featurette

http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/video/exclusive-5129897/dredd-3d-exclusive-featurette-30282728.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 15 August, 2012, 11:16:38 AM
Good spot. Some nice new footage in there :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 15 August, 2012, 11:25:34 AM
It looks great!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 August, 2012, 11:26:52 AM
Wicked - is that our first little bit of the soundtrack too? Sounds pretty damn good to me!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 August, 2012, 11:33:07 AM
Much better view of the bike and some blood splatting too. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 15 August, 2012, 11:33:48 AM
Was in Manchester at the weekend and spotted this billboard and got a tad excited. I have literally no idea who the man in green is, he seemed excited too so joined in.

I'm back in Glasgow now and have already spotted another one, so I'm guessing these are everywhere.

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg207/scaled.php?server=207&filename=keefjudgement.jpg&res=landing)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 15 August, 2012, 11:36:12 AM
Not available in my artificially segmented region.  But no qualms about auto-play spamming me with trailers of The Possessed 2 or somesuch.  Nice.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 August, 2012, 11:36:39 AM
I've yet to see any here in London, but will be keeping my eyes peeled.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 August, 2012, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 15 August, 2012, 11:36:12 AM
Not available in my artificially segmented region.  But no qualms about auto-play spamming me with trailers of The Possessed 2 or somesuch.  Nice.

You could try installing a workaround

http://www.spotflux.com/

doesn't cost anything and you can ditch it afterwards...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 August, 2012, 11:44:37 AM
Now that looks great footage!
Lawmaster looks bloody great!

And Urban IS THE DREDD!!

Can't wait!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 15 August, 2012, 12:11:06 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 15 August, 2012, 11:41:41 AM
You could try installing a workaround

http://www.spotflux.com/

Thanks, James!  Unfortunately, the goggles, they do nothing.  Some sort of maintenance downtime. Patience, young TB.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 15 August, 2012, 12:25:23 PM
Footage shaping up nicely.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 15 August, 2012, 12:45:19 PM
Y u no work on Iphone :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 August, 2012, 12:48:07 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 15 August, 2012, 12:45:19 PM
Y u no work on Iphone :(

How about this?

http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-editors/judge-dredd-film-more-honest-stallone-version-101504372.html (http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-editors/judge-dredd-film-more-honest-stallone-version-101504372.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 15 August, 2012, 12:55:35 PM
No joy Goaty,cheers anyway. The trailer would play but not the doc? Soon finish work so I'll check it out then :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 15 August, 2012, 01:29:05 PM
McMahon Block is reflected in the Hall of Justice building.

Urban's wearing the jacket without BP vest and pads in the interview so there's a better look at the curious shoulder design.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 August, 2012, 01:37:57 PM
Ack! If anyone notices a Youtube version knocking around then I wouldn't mind taking a look. I can't grab the Yahoo one and streaming is horrible. Friggin mobile internet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 August, 2012, 01:41:09 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 15 August, 2012, 01:29:05 PM
McMahon Block is reflected in the Hall of Justice building.

Urban's wearing the jacket without BP vest and pads in the interview so there's a better look at the curious shoulder design.

Got both images for you;

(http://i.imgur.com/o3WcJ.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/Ug5Ts.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 August, 2012, 01:45:15 PM
Some screengrabs!

Nice Dredd title intro?
(http://i.imgur.com/kHyn2.png)

Would love playing the game of guess the names of those Mega-Blocks in background!! Wait for Bluray of it!
(http://i.imgur.com/rFNkU.png)

Lawmaster does looks awesome!
(http://i.imgur.com/RFdSs.png)

More looks inside the Lawmaster!
(http://i.imgur.com/trsZ4.png)

Nasty gut shot!
(http://i.imgur.com/GPWV9.png)

Dredd talks to his armpad?
(http://i.imgur.com/jMCSG.png)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 15 August, 2012, 01:46:20 PM
Anyone with Yahoo difficulties, try this source for the video
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xstxue_2012aug15_shortfilms
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 15 August, 2012, 01:54:17 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 15 August, 2012, 01:46:20 PM
Anyone with Yahoo difficulties, try this source for the video
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xstxue_2012aug15_shortfilms

Brilliant! That worked perfectly on my iPhone, cheers! 

That was an excellent series of clips and interviews. I'm even more stoked now!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 15 August, 2012, 01:57:00 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 15 August, 2012, 01:46:20 PM
Anyone with Yahoo difficulties, try this source for the video
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xstxue_2012aug15_shortfilms

You prince among squaxx!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 15 August, 2012, 02:00:55 PM
Awesome footage there, the Lawmaster looks pretty badass in motion! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 15 August, 2012, 02:07:46 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 15 August, 2012, 01:41:09 PM

Got both images for you;

(http://i.imgur.com/o3WcJ.png)


ohh I'd assumed it was just a biker jacket. Hadn't noticed that. The eagle is embossed underneath the padding too .. nice touch.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 15 August, 2012, 02:15:05 PM
Sexy bike
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 15 August, 2012, 03:39:14 PM
Wow! Just wow!
Looks utterly incredible!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 15 August, 2012, 03:51:17 PM
Something about that guy  grabbing onto the grating on the right side of the screen where people are being gunned down makes me think he's a cgi character. I assume he'll be meeting a very messy end. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 15 August, 2012, 04:03:11 PM
Where can we get the merch' please!? Urban's jacket is fekking ace! (I'd love to buy one and some nice exploding DREDD 3D posters to  :o).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 15 August, 2012, 04:06:05 PM
I'd give an arm and a leg for a replica film helmet. :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 August, 2012, 04:11:33 PM
I notice the K-Man agrees with me on Origins..

"'Origins' is great. For anyone who hasn't read much Dredd they should get a copy as it pretty much outlines how the world of Dredd got to be the way it was. It's written quite late in the history of the character, so there's a great maturity about the story. I also think 'Necropolis' - which features the dark judges (such as Judge Death) - would make a really great film."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 August, 2012, 04:19:58 PM
It looks like the title of the movie appears in the credits as the modern comic logo, before shattering into the original classic Dredd logo in slow motion.

If so, that's frankly mind-blowingly cool, and pisses all over the 1995 movie's apologetic, feeble flickering pages of comic art from a great height.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 August, 2012, 04:25:07 PM
Quote from: radiator on 15 August, 2012, 04:19:58 PM
It looks like the title of the movie appears in the credits as the modern comic logo, before shattering into the original classic Dredd logo in slow motion.

If so, that's frankly mind-blowingly cool, and pisses all over the 1995 movie's apologetic, feeble flickering pages of comic art from a great height.

Hope Blackmocco reply of which title intro in the film? if it like this one, would be glad!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 August, 2012, 04:27:19 PM
I'm pretty sure it is - and it looks to me like it starts strobing, which blends into the first scene of the movie proper - Dredd racing down the highway, lights strobing behind him.

Slick.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 15 August, 2012, 04:31:20 PM
some non street uniforms in there too

(http://i.imgur.com/W00bV.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 August, 2012, 04:32:26 PM
Anyone notice the red/blue siren in Lawmaster headlight?

(http://i.imgur.com/zSukD.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 August, 2012, 04:42:05 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 15 August, 2012, 04:32:26 PM
Anyone notice the red/blue siren in Lawmaster headlight?

It was in the trailer, when the four Judges rode their Lawmasters in a line!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 August, 2012, 04:44:03 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 August, 2012, 04:42:05 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 15 August, 2012, 04:32:26 PM
Anyone notice the red/blue siren in Lawmaster headlight?

It was in the trailer, when the four Judges rode their Lawmasters in a line!

Aw I miss that! thanks!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 August, 2012, 04:45:41 PM
Come on, I would have thought that you'd have watched the trailer at least a few hundred times and took all the details of every scene in by now  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 15 August, 2012, 04:46:55 PM
Loving the music too,is that the films score and if so is that piece Dredds theme tune and my new ring tone?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 August, 2012, 04:48:18 PM
well about 85th time, only 15 more and I would notice it!  :lol:

Could anyone describe me what the soundtrack like (can't play it in office to feelings the sounds!)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 15 August, 2012, 04:59:45 PM
Modern sorta techno (kids still call it that?) with 70's 'John Carpenter' synths over the top.reminded me off a harder Daft Punk.
Cool stuff.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 15 August, 2012, 05:06:31 PM
'when the judges rode their lawmasters in a line'?
"In a line"?

Tut tut mr forces, surely- surely- there's some more exacting terminology for it than that? "in a line"?

"Judge Dredd sir, the perps are getting away- travelling at 200kph down usain bolt skedway, off towards sector one thirty and kitty jung block. Shall we pursue?"

"yes cadet- but remember to ride your lawmasters in a line!"

Sheeeeeesh...

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 15 August, 2012, 05:07:50 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 15 August, 2012, 04:25:07 PM
Quote from: radiator on 15 August, 2012, 04:19:58 PM
It looks like the title of the movie appears in the credits as the modern comic logo, before shattering into the original classic Dredd logo in slow motion.

If so, that's frankly mind-blowingly cool, and pisses all over the 1995 movie's apologetic, feeble flickering pages of comic art from a great height.

Hope Blackmocco reply of which title intro in the film? if it like this one, would be glad!

The titles they show here are from the movie. I would also say bring your fucking headphones for the opening titles and make sure you're watching it in 3-D. I swear I felt like that dude from the trailer getting hit by the blast wave when they explode off the screen and kick you in the balls and stab you in the eyeballs. Fucking awesome! I wish I hadn't already seen it so I could see it for the first time again!!!

On another note, Dredd billboards and posters absolutely EVERYWHERE here in Los Angeles. Getting a very good feeling about it. For anyone who was worried this movie wouldn't be marketed properly, you can rest easy. Would assume the TV spots'll be starting real soon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 August, 2012, 05:15:24 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 15 August, 2012, 05:06:31 PM
'when the judges rode their lawmasters in a line'?
"In a line"?

Tut tut mr forces, surely- surely- there's some more exacting terminology for it than that? "in a line"?

"Judge Dredd sir, the perps are getting away- travelling at 200kph down usain bolt skedway, off towards sector one thirty and kitty jung block. Shall we pursue?"

"yes cadet- but remember to ride your lawmasters in a line!"

Sheeeeeesh...

SBT

I think 'a sitting duck' was mentioned... they're not a motorcycle display team.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 15 August, 2012, 05:52:29 PM
Anyone know yet if the 2000AD logo is incorporated into the opening? I'm thinking in the way Marvel or DC movies do, sorry if it's already been discussed (there are a lot of pages here)!

I noticed on the billboards I've seen that the logo isn't anywhere to be seen. Would be a shame if the movie did do well but wasn't promoting the 2000AD "brand" if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 August, 2012, 05:55:08 PM
I was going to write abreast but I know what would have happened after I did and now will ::)

This was the only part of the trailer that (looks for correct word) 'irritated' me and the reason being about to mention plot stuff now, so don't look  :o

[spoiler]These are the corrupt Judges heading towards the block. Now I don't know if they have all set out from the same location or not, having not read the script but some twat elsewhere mentioned them and I couldn't avert my eyes quick enough! Even if they did,[/spoiler]

why on earth would you drive down the road like that, you are asking for trouble. Two abreast I can live with, like outriders on a motorcade but the Judges are not the White Helmet motorcycle team, as Steve has mentioned!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 15 August, 2012, 06:20:48 PM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 15 August, 2012, 05:52:29 PM
Anyone know yet if the 2000AD logo is incorporated into the opening? I'm thinking in the way Marvel or DC movies do, sorry if it's already been discussed (there are a lot of pages here)!

I noticed on the billboards I've seen that the logo isn't anywhere to be seen. Would be a shame if the movie did do well but wasn't promoting the 2000AD "brand" if you know what I mean.

There is no 2000AD logo, sadly. Marvel and DC are the name of actual companies though. 2000AD's just one part of Rebellion.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 15 August, 2012, 06:44:06 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 August, 2012, 05:55:08 PMwhy on earth would you drive down the road like that, you are asking for trouble. Two abreast I can live with, like outriders on a motorcade but the Judges are not the White Helmet motorcycle team, as Steve has mentioned!

You of all people should know that extended lineis best used to bring all available firepower to bear...  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 August, 2012, 06:51:26 PM
There is a time and a place for extended line and that is the final attack! Those four Judges are not [spoiler]in their final attack on Dredd[/spoiler]

As an extra bit of info, if you are advancing towards the enemy you can use the following formations (depending on terrain) Arrowhead, Diamond, File, Single File, etc...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 15 August, 2012, 07:04:15 PM
Fucking awesome! I wish I hadn't already seen it so I could see it for the first time again!!!

So blackmocco you'll be queuing to watch for a second time on the 21st then? Still excited I bet?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 15 August, 2012, 07:06:10 PM
"Fucking awesome! I wish I hadn't already seen it so I could see it for the first time again!!!"

That was supposed to be shown as blackmocco's quote...

Regarding billboards, I'm off to Bristol on Sunday, hopefully see some there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 15 August, 2012, 08:01:36 PM
Quote from: Stu101 on 15 August, 2012, 07:04:15 PM
Fucking awesome! I wish I hadn't already seen it so I could see it for the first time again!!!

So blackmocco you'll be queuing to watch for a second time on the 21st then? Still excited I bet?

Oh fuck yes. There'll be an army of Family Guy staff there as well if I've anything to do with it...!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 August, 2012, 08:15:27 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 15 August, 2012, 04:59:45 PM
Modern sorta techno (kids still call it that?) with 70's 'John Carpenter' synths over the top.reminded me off a harder Daft Punk.
Cool stuff.


Doesn't sound like it's from the film but from the promo.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 15 August, 2012, 08:22:51 PM
updated his Facebook  with a link...
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=487214554623734&id=188200017936640
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 15 August, 2012, 08:25:01 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 August, 2012, 08:15:27 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 15 August, 2012, 04:59:45 PM
Modern sorta techno (kids still call it that?) with 70's 'John Carpenter' synths over the top.reminded me off a harder Daft Punk.
Cool stuff.


Doesn't sound like it's from the film but from the promo.

Could be from the movie but can't really say for sure. It's certainly very similar in style. I remember it being far more aggressive.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 15 August, 2012, 09:20:31 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 15 August, 2012, 01:29:05 PM
McMahon Block is reflected in the Hall of Justice building.

Nice.


And great new clips/interviews.
Not long now!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HdE on 15 August, 2012, 09:46:49 PM
The hell?!

I just read a review that says 'it's not strictly true that Dredd never takes his helmet off in the movie'.

Concerned now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 15 August, 2012, 09:48:02 PM
Quote from: HdE on 15 August, 2012, 09:46:49 PM
The hell?! I just read a review that says 'it's not strictly true that Dredd never takes his helmet off in the movie'.Concerned now.

He gets dressed at the start of the film, but you see nowt.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 15 August, 2012, 09:49:54 PM
[spoiler]"Do you require backup?"

"No."[/spoiler]

Awesome sauce. I can't believe how much I am looking forward to this film. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Judge_T on 15 August, 2012, 09:50:11 PM
I attended Wizard World here in Chicago this past weekend and was a walking billboard for the movie in my Dredd costume.  Nobody knew when the movie was coming out and some didn't even know a movie had been filmed.  Lionsgate had a booth where they were passing out Dredd badges; but the people at the booth didn't even know who I was dressed up as (Dredd) or what the story was even about.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 15 August, 2012, 09:55:26 PM
The Lionsgate people themselves didn't recognise you?

Ouch.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HdE on 15 August, 2012, 10:00:20 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 15 August, 2012, 09:48:02 PM
Quote from: HdE on 15 August, 2012, 09:46:49 PM
The hell?! I just read a review that says 'it's not strictly true that Dredd never takes his helmet off in the movie'.Concerned now.

He gets dressed at the start of the film, but you see nowt.

Hurrah and thrice yay!

You are now my new favourite poster here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Judge_T on 15 August, 2012, 10:00:40 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 15 August, 2012, 09:55:26 PM
The Lionsgate people themselves didn't recognise you?

Ouch.

Yeah, the people working the Lionsgate booth had no idea who Dredd was or even recognized me in my PR costume.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 15 August, 2012, 10:03:24 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 15 August, 2012, 09:55:26 PM
The Lionsgate people themselves didn't recognise you?

Ouch.

Means nowt - they're just events people hired to hand things out, not people from Lionsgate itself.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Judge_T on 15 August, 2012, 10:18:56 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 15 August, 2012, 10:03:24 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 15 August, 2012, 09:55:26 PM
The Lionsgate people themselves didn't recognise you?

Ouch.

Means nowt - they're just events people hired to hand things out, not people from Lionsgate itself.

True they are just hired.  But it's strange to be handing out Dredd badges and posters and not know who he is.
Plus they did a terrible job advertising the movie; as I said no one I talked to knew when the movie was coming out or that it was even in production.  I set them straight so hopefully that'll be a few more seats in the theater.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 15 August, 2012, 10:25:44 PM
Did anyone else think he sounded really weird when he said "You have 10 seconds to comply!"

It was like his accent kind of broke back through or something.


So stoked for this, can't believe how close it is.

Also another thing, why didn't they use the same Logo from the film on the poster?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 August, 2012, 11:06:17 PM
Films very rarely use the same logo on the poster and in the credits.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 August, 2012, 11:09:32 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 15 August, 2012, 10:25:44 PM
Did anyone else think he sounded really weird when he said "You have 10 seconds to comply!"

It was like his accent kind of broke back through or something.


So stoked for this, can't believe how close it is.

Also another thing, why didn't they use the same Logo from the film on the poster?

That, and the reply sounded more like the on-set audio, a lot of it was probably re-recorded afterwards.

Not sure why they'd use it but it sounded so different from the rest, that's the only explanation I can think of.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 August, 2012, 11:15:24 PM
It looks like he's using a tiny hand held microphone to boost the volume of his voice in an authoritive way, making the perps unsure of what to do and second guess what he may be doing!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 August, 2012, 11:19:00 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 August, 2012, 11:15:24 PM
It looks like he's using a tiny hand held microphone to boost the volume of his voice in an authoritive way, making the perps unsure of what to do and second guess what he may be doing!

That what I thought too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 August, 2012, 11:19:30 PM
That EPK would've been shot while the film was shooting so it may have been cut together before the film was finished sound-dub/ADR.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 15 August, 2012, 11:19:48 PM
I was thinking with that graffiti thing they posted on their Facebook page they could turn it into a cool little campaign called 'Spread the Dredd' where you have to share it to enter a comp. Better then Judge of the week I think.

Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 August, 2012, 11:15:24 PM
It looks like he's using a tiny hand held microphone to boost the volume of his voice in an authoritive way, making the perps unsure of what to do and second guess what he may be doing!

Yeah I think he was, but still, cause he didn't have his growl on it just sounded really out of place I thought. And it sounded quite kiwi as well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 August, 2012, 11:21:34 PM
Oi! I want to win that Judge of the Week  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 15 August, 2012, 11:23:47 PM
Haha, I am wondering what they do with your pic, do they photoshop it into the Dredd costume they had on the left or something? Cause if that were the case wouldn't you have to have a pic of you looking slightly to the right for it to work?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 August, 2012, 11:24:39 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 August, 2012, 11:21:34 PM
Oi! I want to win that Judge of the Week  :D

Nah, you are The Judge of 2000AD Forum!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 August, 2012, 11:25:11 PM
I sent loads and all in uniform but if they need that I'm willing ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 15 August, 2012, 11:41:03 PM
Does anybody know what font it is they use on the Graffiti poster?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 August, 2012, 12:06:44 AM
Agency FB bold.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 August, 2012, 01:07:39 AM
Nah, on the new one, like the one in my pic. Looks like a stencil, so googled stencil fonts but couldn't find it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 16 August, 2012, 09:33:03 AM
It may just be Agency, modified by hand in photoshop or illustrator to look stencilled.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 16 August, 2012, 10:19:02 AM
Quote from: Judge_T on 15 August, 2012, 10:18:56 PM
True they are just hired.  But it's strange to be handing out Dredd badges and posters and not know who he is.
Plus they did a terrible job advertising the movie; as I said no one I talked to knew when the movie was coming out or that it was even in production.  I set them straight so hopefully that'll be a few more seats in the theater.

Not really, I used to hand flyers out advertising cheese but if you'd asked me about what it was I wouldn't have had a clue. And take people saying they've not heard of the film with a pinch of salt - it's a well-known phenomenon in advertising that if you ask someone randomly whether they've ever seen a brand or product they'll swear blind they haven't, even if they've been bombarded with messages. Being at a convention makes it doubly worse as people are having their heads turned every few seconds by something new. We were at SDCC and DREDD 3D posters and badges were everywhere, as well as the Lionsgate booth smack bang in the centre of the most popular bit of the hall, but people still acted surprised when we mentioned there was a film coming out. When the film comes out a light will go on in their heads that they've seen the brand before. I wouldn't worry - the advertising's going fine and there's only so much Lionsgate can do to ram it into people's brains.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Judge_T on 16 August, 2012, 01:49:40 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 16 August, 2012, 10:19:02 AM
Quote from: Judge_T on 15 August, 2012, 10:18:56 PM
True they are just hired.  But it's strange to be handing out Dredd badges and posters and not know who he is.
Plus they did a terrible job advertising the movie; as I said no one I talked to knew when the movie was coming out or that it was even in production.  I set them straight so hopefully that'll be a few more seats in the theater.

Not really, I used to hand flyers out advertising cheese but if you'd asked me about what it was I wouldn't have had a clue. And take people saying they've not heard of the film with a pinch of salt - it's a well-known phenomenon in advertising that if you ask someone randomly whether they've ever seen a brand or product they'll swear blind they haven't, even if they've been bombarded with messages. Being at a convention makes it doubly worse as people are having their heads turned every few seconds by something new. We were at SDCC and DREDD 3D posters and badges were everywhere, as well as the Lionsgate booth smack bang in the centre of the most popular bit of the hall, but people still acted surprised when we mentioned there was a film coming out. When the film comes out a light will go on in their heads that they've seen the brand before. I wouldn't worry - the advertising's going fine and there's only so much Lionsgate can do to ram it into people's brains.

Well, sounds like you feel you've got it all figured out and are going to believe what you want.  So no room for discussion here; good luck with that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 16 August, 2012, 01:56:27 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 16 August, 2012, 10:19:02 AM
Not really, I used to hand flyers out advertising cheese but if you'd asked me about what it was I wouldn't have had a clue.
You seriously cant recognise cheese by sight ? How did you grow so tall.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 16 August, 2012, 01:58:12 PM
Quote from: Judge_T on 16 August, 2012, 01:49:40 PM
Well, sounds like you feel you've got it all figured out and are going to believe what you want.

You do know who MOLCH-R is, and what he does for a living, right? Your PR qualifications and experience are...?

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 16 August, 2012, 02:00:32 PM
Quote from: Judge_T on 16 August, 2012, 01:49:40 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 16 August, 2012, 10:19:02 AM
Quote from: Judge_T on 15 August, 2012, 10:18:56 PM
True they are just hired.  But it's strange to be handing out Dredd badges and posters and not know who he is.
Plus they did a terrible job advertising the movie; as I said no one I talked to knew when the movie was coming out or that it was even in production.  I set them straight so hopefully that'll be a few more seats in the theater.

Not really, I used to hand flyers out advertising cheese but if you'd asked me about what it was I wouldn't have had a clue. And take people saying they've not heard of the film with a pinch of salt - it's a well-known phenomenon in advertising that if you ask someone randomly whether they've ever seen a brand or product they'll swear blind they haven't, even if they've been bombarded with messages. Being at a convention makes it doubly worse as people are having their heads turned every few seconds by something new. We were at SDCC and DREDD 3D posters and badges were everywhere, as well as the Lionsgate booth smack bang in the centre of the most popular bit of the hall, but people still acted surprised when we mentioned there was a film coming out. When the film comes out a light will go on in their heads that they've seen the brand before. I wouldn't worry - the advertising's going fine and there's only so much Lionsgate can do to ram it into people's brains.

Well, sounds like you feel you've got it all figured out and are going to believe what you want.  So no room for discussion here; good luck with that.

Yeah Molch-R, what do you know about PR, advertising or even Judge Dredd for that matter?




...Oh, wait a minute...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 August, 2012, 02:15:51 PM
Well off-topic  :lol:

As been re-watch the Dredd 3D trailer again, (105times CF!)

I always like this scene with close up slo-mo on Dredd's face as he turn his head...

Thought that is a fine moment I like!

(http://www.ifc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/071312-dredd-3d.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 16 August, 2012, 02:36:03 PM
My poor eyesight. When I first saw the reflection in the Visor I'm sure it was a female citizen- but it turned out to be a perp.

Judge Test-FAIL.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 16 August, 2012, 02:46:15 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 16 August, 2012, 01:56:27 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 16 August, 2012, 10:19:02 AM
Not really, I used to hand flyers out advertising cheese but if you'd asked me about what it was I wouldn't have had a clue.
You seriously cant recognise cheese by sight ? How did you grow so tall.

Or repair your consumer electronics, for that matter.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 August, 2012, 03:06:04 PM
These days they'd just be asking about dairy produce availability on Android.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: auxlen on 16 August, 2012, 04:36:12 PM
spotted the judgement is coming poster in Liverpool, edge lane and Wolverhampton wv10 yesterday.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 August, 2012, 05:12:45 PM
Not really sure why, as I hardly ever draw, but I started trying to draw Dredd and I just got really into it and coloured it in with felt tips and everything. But then I didn't like it with colour so made it black n white on the computer. But still I quite like it, what do you guys think?

(http://i46.tinypic.com/jqj78j.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 August, 2012, 05:13:25 PM
Hmm, is there anyway to zoom that out a bit?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 August, 2012, 05:13:46 PM
Quote from: auxlen on 16 August, 2012, 04:36:12 PM
spotted the judgement is coming poster in Liverpool, edge lane and Wolverhampton wv10 yesterday.

Cool beans. I haven't seen any yet but Edge Lane is about 20 odd minutes form here. With three weeks to go it's really about time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 16 August, 2012, 05:18:59 PM
i have three huge billboard posters around my block and nothing yet. Hope it appears soon otherwise im going to have to print it off using several dozen reams of paper and do a little vigilante 'postering' of my own.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 16 August, 2012, 05:58:15 PM
Good going Eliminator. Guess there's so much Thrill Power in the atmosphere at the moment it's beginning to affect the artist in all of us.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 August, 2012, 06:15:56 PM
Thanks!

Yeah, this is a film I am going to book to see several times before I even see it, that's how confident I am it is gonna rock!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 16 August, 2012, 07:09:34 PM
Here's my DREDD-inspired piece of art, as seen on the art thread (it's been through a few more tweaks since then, though):

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/229/b/2/b2857961f48baf198eb20dbd5585b120-d5b76pd.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 16 August, 2012, 07:10:48 PM
When the film was first announced I did some quick sketches of what I thought the movie uniform would look like - it's actually pretty close. I'll post them up if I can find them.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 August, 2012, 07:43:43 PM
Quote from: radiator on 16 August, 2012, 07:09:34 PM
Here's my DREDD-inspired piece of art, as seen on the art thread (it's been through a few more tweaks since then, though):

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/229/b/2/b2857961f48baf198eb20dbd5585b120-d5b76pd.jpg)

That is rad, Radiator!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 16 August, 2012, 08:03:57 PM
Quote from: radiator on 16 August, 2012, 07:09:34 PM
Here's my DREDD-inspired piece of art, as seen on the art thread (it's been through a few more tweaks since then, though):

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/229/b/2/b2857961f48baf198eb20dbd5585b120-d5b76pd.jpg)

Those lawmasters, from 'meh' to rather iconic dontchya think?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 August, 2012, 09:03:43 PM
Anyone seen this? Quite amazing how well it fits.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 August, 2012, 09:04:06 PM
Fuck sake, this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFBEYu_6LaI
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 16 August, 2012, 09:28:06 PM
That's awesome. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 16 August, 2012, 10:24:32 PM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 16 August, 2012, 08:03:57 PM

Those lawmasters, from 'meh' to rather iconic dontchya think?

Too right- if that was the actual poster, I'd be tempted to go! And Radiator's made the Lawmasters into something quite special.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 16 August, 2012, 10:58:39 PM
@Radiator: As a matter of interest is it easier drawing Dredd in that kit or the regular kit ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 17 August, 2012, 09:07:10 AM
3 weeks to go
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Alski on 17 August, 2012, 08:33:56 PM
How come we see all those brilliantly named blocks, like Ezquerra and Sternhammer, yet the action takes place in "Peach Trees"?

WTF?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 August, 2012, 08:34:45 PM
Maybe bit on wine tonight but three weeks to go, everyone gives it positive reviews, honest who cared if it get less audience as most important is to enjoy the Dredd film entertainet of your life. 3 weeks and I can't wait!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklarr on 17 August, 2012, 09:01:04 PM
Quote from: Alski on 17 August, 2012, 08:33:56 PM
How come we see all those brilliantly named blocks, like Ezquerra and Sternhammer, yet the action takes place in "Peach Trees"?

WTF?

Read all about it here:

http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,36626.0.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 17 August, 2012, 10:16:14 PM
Yeah, the film actually has used 2000ad naming methodology by calling it Peach Trees. I did wonder why, till the news broke.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 August, 2012, 10:28:52 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 17 August, 2012, 08:34:45 PM
Maybe bit on wine tonight but three weeks to go, everyone gives it positive reviews, honest who cared if it get less audience as most important is to enjoy the Dredd film entertainet of your life. 3 weeks and I can't wait!!

It'd be nice if the Odeon had a midnight showing round these parts. I would've thought (hoped?) there'd be enough Dredd geeks to make that worthwhile.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 18 August, 2012, 12:03:36 AM
Doubt it very much.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 18 August, 2012, 06:05:17 PM
Went to see Bourne Legacy, no sooner had I said to my son that it'd be good if we got the Dredd trailer...instead we get a new Bond trailer. Guess what, Bond's Walther PPK now READS HIS PALM PRINT SO NO ONE BUT BOND CAN FIRE HIS GUN. Perhaps this has been mentioned here but that's surely a trademark infringement? Do any of you know of any precedents pre-Dredd for this technology?...I was, am pissed off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 18 August, 2012, 06:16:51 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 18 August, 2012, 06:05:17 PM
Went to see Bourne Legacy, no sooner had I said to my son that it'd be good if we got the Dredd trailer...instead we get a new Bond trailer. Guess what, Bond's Walther PPK now READS HIS PALM PRINT SO NO ONE BUT BOND CAN FIRE HIS GUN. Perhaps this has been mentioned here but that's surely a trademark infringement? Do any of you know of any precedents pre-Dredd for this technology?...I was, am pissed off.

You can't copyright an abstract idea in fiction. As Robocop proves.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 August, 2012, 06:18:42 PM
The Logan's Run gun carried by the Sandmen has six types of ammo.

The Cursed Earth synopsis is pretty close to Damnation Alley.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 18 August, 2012, 06:54:52 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 18 August, 2012, 06:18:42 PM
The Logan's Run gun carried by the Sandmen has six types of ammo.

The Cursed Earth synopsis is pretty close to Damnation Alley.

Nice examples - no such thing as an original thought. Roughly speaking.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 18 August, 2012, 07:42:14 PM
Urban's gun in Doom was similar too, and even said his call sign.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 18 August, 2012, 09:14:53 PM
I read this somewhere.

"You can not write about anything in Sc-Fi that hasn't already been written about."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 18 August, 2012, 09:22:32 PM
Some writers will tell you there's only 7 story types.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheSevenBasicPlots

DREDD I assume is number 1 Overcoming the monster. Or is it No6?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 18 August, 2012, 11:24:09 PM
Not read the script but from what I know... could be 4
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 August, 2012, 11:50:05 PM
It's none of 'em. Dredd's not a hero.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 August, 2012, 03:16:25 AM
it's as the ancient saying goes; those who eat melon laugh at the egg.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 19 August, 2012, 07:42:40 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 August, 2012, 11:50:05 PM
It's none of 'em. Dredd's not a hero

The strip was variation on Number 6 for a long while, "Tragedy: Our protagonist character is the Villain, but we get to watch him slowly spiral down into darkness before he's finally defeated, freeing the land from his evil influence..

Wagner's managed to steer the story more in the direction of Number 7 in recent years, Rebirth: As with the Tragedy plot, but our protagonist manages to realize his error before it's too late, and does an about turn to avoid inevitable defeat. The film sounds like an only slightly nuanced version of Number 1.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 19 August, 2012, 05:04:44 PM
Looking over the cast list of Dredd on IMDB [spoiler]it occurred to me that since it's listed in order of appearance Santi Scinelli... Resyck Man - must appear as the final joke of the movie, cleaning all the bits of dead bodies away to be processed. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 19 August, 2012, 05:40:47 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 19 August, 2012, 05:04:44 PM
Looking over the cast list of Dredd on IMDB [spoiler]it occurred to me that since it's listed in order of appearance Santi Scinelli... Resyck Man - must appear as the final joke of the movie, cleaning all the bits of dead bodies away to be processed. [/spoiler]

[spoiler]He, and the other two outside of the main list have uncredited (usually non-speaking) roles, and added themselves to the cast list long before it was officially tweaked the other week. They could appear anywhere in the film.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 19 August, 2012, 05:50:12 PM
Yeah, nice touch in any case.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 August, 2012, 11:46:28 AM
Someone mentioned that he saw Dredd 3D poster at bus stop. Wonder if anyone here been see one yet?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 August, 2012, 12:04:32 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 20 August, 2012, 11:46:28 AM
Someone mentioned that he saw Dredd 3D poster at bus stop. Wonder if anyone here been see one yet?

He post this; The one that looks like a spray painted Magneto helmet is on a bus stop in Coolock (Dublin).

Awesome! If anyone notice this!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 20 August, 2012, 12:58:10 PM
Magneto helmet?  >:(

And I didn't notice the guy getting his stomach blown to smithereens around the 02:30 mark. Headey's evil grimace is quite the distraction...

Dredd 3D Featurette
http://youtu.be/0X3hpRgjGXU
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 20 August, 2012, 01:47:52 PM
Not seen any posters yet... but I'm not skilled at observation, could walk past Judge Burdis in full costume n not notice.

I'd probably notice if I saw Lauren as Judge Anderson though...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 20 August, 2012, 01:54:49 PM
Empire Cinema in Swindon has got a few posters up and a big cardboard poster cut-out too, looked mighty fine. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 20 August, 2012, 03:12:30 PM
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd/22388/exclusive-clip-from-dredd


new footage
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 August, 2012, 03:21:39 PM
YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjh4ljaZ9Rs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjh4ljaZ9Rs)

Thanks James for link.

Looks awesome!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 20 August, 2012, 03:35:59 PM
Quite tense, definitely a 'pin drop' moment for Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 20 August, 2012, 05:17:12 PM
Crank up the suspense!, . . . possibily see the outcome of this in the next few days with Dredd trailer 2?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 20 August, 2012, 05:21:02 PM
TBH I hope they don't release much more because I won't be able to stop myself watching it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 August, 2012, 05:27:10 PM
What does Dredd says in this clip?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 20 August, 2012, 05:43:49 PM
''We'd better move''
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 20 August, 2012, 05:51:50 PM
it's Dreddy cool. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 20 August, 2012, 06:11:04 PM
Great clip. DREDD's almost nonchalant stoicism and Ma Ma's ugly threats show off aspects of their characters. One an indifferent,brutal Clan Leader ruling through terror; the other a tough uncompromising Judge unruffled by threats or extremely bad odds. Only Judge Andersons, glancing worriedly  behind her shows the peril that we the audience know the protagonists are really in. Great stuff.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 20 August, 2012, 06:14:01 PM
Hmmm.  Definitely good performances, but the block foyer looked very 'soundstagey' if you get what I mean.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 August, 2012, 06:16:08 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/c0.0.843.403/p843x403/387990_471861036171083_2066328408_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 August, 2012, 06:17:39 PM
Well done CF for being the Judge of the week on Dredd 3D facebook. Your photo with Karl Urban does the trick! Hehe!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 20 August, 2012, 06:28:22 PM
Nutcase of the week more like! Well done JB, truly well deserved. Your attempts to promote the film have been nothing short of heroic, proud of ya.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 August, 2012, 06:33:01 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 20 August, 2012, 06:14:01 PM
Hmmm.  Definitely good performances, but the block foyer looked very 'soundstagey' if you get what I mean.

That's strange because I think the bit where Dredd and Anderson is outside, re-dressed version of a real building.

(http://cdn-www.mania.com/content_pics/000006/33/62/7cbe370471238be3_large.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 20 August, 2012, 06:37:45 PM
Blimey I thought it was Set too. So there we are the truth about Cinema is revealed at last.

Don't believe your own eyes it's all an illusion.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 20 August, 2012, 06:42:32 PM
you mean it's NOT real?  :o :-*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 August, 2012, 06:50:09 PM
Wider shot...

(http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/20773/dredd2-600x450.jpg)

You can see in the clip at 0:04 the raised (vents?) to the left of the fast food stand.

So this is the ground level of the central atrium, rather than outside the block and they've added the floors surrounding it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 20 August, 2012, 07:10:03 PM
I still find the ingenious ways they make films truly amazing. :)

In other news Dredd is finally onto the front page of RT, and still on a good old 100%. :D

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 20 August, 2012, 07:23:00 PM
Apologies if posted before just saw a DREDD compo advertised by sky.
Win a trip to New York worth a punt I guess :)

http://www.sky.com/dredd (http://www.sky.com/dredd) at time of posting link is not working!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 20 August, 2012, 08:00:16 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 20 August, 2012, 07:23:00 PM
Apologies if posted before just saw a DREDD compo advertised by sky.
Win a trip to New York worth a punt I guess :)

http://www.sky.com/dredd (http://www.sky.com/dredd) at time of posting link is not working!

Just seen the tail end of info regarding this. Apparently there'll be an extended trailer shown before Stoke Vs. Arsenal (whenever that is)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 20 August, 2012, 08:11:44 PM
Sunday 26th August, 1:30pm K/O.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 20 August, 2012, 08:18:40 PM
Quote from: Zarjazzer on 20 August, 2012, 06:42:32 PM
you mean it's NOT real?  :o :-*

What? You think we built a real 200 story megablock?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 20 August, 2012, 08:36:54 PM
"We'll get an extended trailer before stoke vs arsenal"- it's just like the avengers at the superbowl all over again! Oh the glamour! :-D

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 20 August, 2012, 09:03:52 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 20 August, 2012, 08:36:54 PM
"We'll get an extended trailer before stoke vs arsenal"- it's just like the avengers at the superbowl all over again! Oh the glamour! :-D

SBT

:lol:

However I'm surprised that it's getting pushed by SKY. Good audience figures though and football fans will no doubt enjoy the violence.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 20 August, 2012, 09:11:14 PM
a different trailer has just been on during league of their own on sky.. i came downstairs and my girlfriend told me i had just missed it

it was bad enough my girlfriend was watching league of their own ...but not telling me it was on telly until was over.. is unforgivable.

she'll be out of the house by morning
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 August, 2012, 09:14:03 PM
Couldn't she just rewind the bloody thing?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 20 August, 2012, 09:24:16 PM
we're old school in this house.. no tivo or sky plus
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 20 August, 2012, 09:24:22 PM
I love how Dredd doesn't stick around for Ma Ma's inane blathering.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 August, 2012, 09:27:16 PM
I bet you can't wait for it to come out on VHS  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 20 August, 2012, 09:30:51 PM
got a pre-order in for the the Zoetrope edition
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 20 August, 2012, 09:34:36 PM
Stalls, Globe.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 August, 2012, 09:44:54 PM
It's little buzzing over the Twitter about the clip and the TV Ad! awesome!

https://twitter.com/#!/search/dredd (https://twitter.com/#!/search/dredd)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 20 August, 2012, 09:59:32 PM
Having a look at that twitter search, I learned that the 3d trailer for Dredd will be showing at this weekend's Frightfest film festival, with an intro by Garland.

So presumably that won't be the same trailer we've all seen before, and could possibly be a new, bloodier (red band) trailer, which may be release online later on.....?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 August, 2012, 10:22:10 PM
Interesting, here the trailer in German - it same as the official trailer but just swap many scenes around. Not sure which I like best! haha!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeR6udwIei8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeR6udwIei8)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 20 August, 2012, 10:25:23 PM
Wow, that clip kicked ass! Does anyone else think it has a slightly cartoony look to it? I quite like it though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 August, 2012, 10:30:25 PM
New billboard!

(https://p.twimg.com/A0qohUdCEAAs2CT.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 August, 2012, 10:31:58 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 20 August, 2012, 10:22:10 PM
Interesting, here the trailer in German - it same as the official trailer but just swap many scenes around. Not sure which I like best! haha!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeR6udwIei8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeR6udwIei8)



Dredd's voice is good: Ma-Ma ist nicht a gesetz Das bin ich!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 20 August, 2012, 10:49:28 PM
Just seen the first TV ad for it, during the excellent I'm Spasticus (CH4)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 20 August, 2012, 11:06:09 PM
Dammit. I knew the whole not watching TV thing would come back to haunt me one day. I'll wait for the radio version.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 20 August, 2012, 11:11:03 PM
So these TV ads have new footage?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 August, 2012, 11:11:56 PM
Quote from: Adrian Bamforth on 20 August, 2012, 10:49:28 PM
Just seen the first TV ad for it, during the excellent I'm Spasticus (CH4)

Cheers for the heads up, have to +1 it!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 20 August, 2012, 11:12:32 PM
Funny, not seen it on BBC yet...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 20 August, 2012, 11:15:07 PM
I  haven't seen it either. Total Recall has appeared a 2-3 times though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 August, 2012, 11:53:32 PM
Saw it! Cool!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 August, 2012, 12:02:13 AM
It's awesome and I FILMING IT!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYWfVURwn1w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYWfVURwn1w)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 21 August, 2012, 12:09:02 AM
Oooo, nice.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 21 August, 2012, 12:19:28 AM
Nice to see the UK release date!!! Most stuff online has the US date on it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 August, 2012, 12:33:12 AM
Full quality:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kBtJYmaxDE&feature=plcp
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 August, 2012, 12:43:31 AM
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9733/throw.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 21 August, 2012, 12:46:04 AM
YEEAAAH!

Can't quite figure out what's going on at the end but that's a great TV spot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 21 August, 2012, 09:02:22 AM
Nice clip. Still using that awful song though  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 21 August, 2012, 09:16:58 AM
Great to see Anderson fighting for a second, looks great. The way they cut it in the first trailer made it look a bit strange (like if she got to pull free punches all over) and made me a bit worried.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 21 August, 2012, 09:21:02 AM
I'v made a push at the local cinema that they should show it. Told them all about the love put into it (For example the Judge Minty tribute) and so on. I compared the gore to robocop, and it sounded like if it wasn't a problem.

The release date in sweden is in october, so hopefully the movie gains enough speed till then to become something people want to see :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 21 August, 2012, 10:00:58 AM
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.  While it's a thrill to see Proper Dredd on the telly, I didn't really care for the content, too much of the 'contemporary' look on show, and the editing on the mashed-up monologuing meant it came across way cheesier than anything we've seen so far would suggest.

The Spaghetti Junction overhead was nice, don't think I've seen that bit before, and it's always good to get broader 2000AD references in.  'Try to get your head up, Skizz...'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 21 August, 2012, 11:20:43 AM
Quotetoo much of the 'contemporary' look on show

QuoteStill using that awful song

Quotethe editing on the mashed-up monologuing meant it came across way cheesier than anything we've seen so far would suggest

This trailer isn't for the fans - it's to sell the film to the average punter. Remember that the filmmakers themselves probably have little to no input on the marketing of it.

The shrill, tinny warbling of Elly Jackson isn't what I would have used to soundtrack a Dredd trailer - especially considering that the actual film's soundtrack is getting a lot of praise and attention - but then I'm not a film marketeer. Fingers crossed they know what they're doing... Personally I would have put a lot more focus on Anderson's story in the trailers.

A friend of mine - an old school Dredd fan who has been ambivelant about the new movie since it was announced actually cited the La Roux tack and the cheesy (out of context) dialogue as causes for concern.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 21 August, 2012, 11:55:15 AM
I like the voice over for the 'Dredd 3D' bit. They should get him to do a full trailer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 21 August, 2012, 12:51:25 PM
The short "This is Ma Ma" clip is great - there were people on facebook saying it looked very setbound, like the original Total Recall*, which to me is bonkers - that place is unmistakably a real location - and you can tell because it's bloody HUGE! I remember someone posted on IMDB many months ago, claiming to have seen some of the film at a screening, and he said that the locations were really big and impressive - turns out he was right.

*some of which was actually shot in real locations.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 August, 2012, 12:55:26 PM
At least they're selling it as a Judge Dredd film: says his name, his infamous epithet, then the city. I think it hits all the beats to sell it as what it is to a broad audience without referring to that film. We'll be getting another trailer and an Anderson-centric TV spot soon enough.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 August, 2012, 01:07:47 PM
It's going well, does it? With TV adverts and new Bus Stop/billboards posters and word of mouths, looking forward to it in two weeks!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 21 August, 2012, 03:49:12 PM
Apart from the "Yeaahhhh" bit, I thought that worked pretty well.

And I liked the sound track too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 21 August, 2012, 04:01:24 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 21 August, 2012, 03:49:12 PM
Apart from the "Yeaahhhh" bit, I thought that worked pretty well.

And I liked the sound track too.

I thought the 'Yeah' worked very well. There's some Rowdy DNA in that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 21 August, 2012, 04:11:30 PM
 :) The 30sec tv clip is nice. It delivers instant justice with great visuals, sound track editing! This will appeal to joe punter (it's concise enough to remain in short term memory as the 7th of Sept. draws near! :-) )
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 21 August, 2012, 04:22:26 PM
Quote from: radiator on 21 August, 2012, 11:20:43 AM
This trailer isn't for the fans - it's to sell the film to the average punter.

No argument there, but I was responding as a fan looking to be entertained, not a marketing workshop.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 21 August, 2012, 04:25:27 PM
Isn't Judge Dredd throwing somebody to their death at the end of the clip?

Put that Judge on report surely.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 21 August, 2012, 04:28:36 PM
He might be out of ammo but the sentence is still death,the guys resourceful that's all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 21 August, 2012, 05:22:57 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 21 August, 2012, 04:11:30 PM
:) The 30sec tv clip is nice. It delivers instant justice with great visuals, sound track editing! This will appeal to joe punter (it's concise enough to remain in short term memory as the 7th of Sept. draws near! :-) )

I agree its punchy and pretty sleek.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 21 August, 2012, 06:30:37 PM
http://www.dreddreport.com/

http://www.dreddreport.com/external/peachtree/block.html
http://www.dreddreport.com/external/peachtree/block2.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 21 August, 2012, 06:34:38 PM
And new video
Say No to "Slo-Mo" - A Public Service Announcement from The Department of Justice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smqAs1BZ6Mk&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 21 August, 2012, 06:55:41 PM
Some of those links on The Dredd Report link to actual stories,such "Mega-City One Dealer Sentenced to Iso-Cube For Stabbing Man to Death..."which links to a BBC Tayside and Central Scotland page "Perth drug dealer jailed for stabbing man to death"

Poor form, I thought. :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 21 August, 2012, 07:13:50 PM
Thanks for the links Crave. Now this is looking interesting. Liking the say no to slo  mo campaign on YouTube!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 21 August, 2012, 07:27:00 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 21 August, 2012, 06:55:41 PM
Some of those links on The Dredd Report link to actual stories,such "Mega-City One Dealer Sentenced to Iso-Cube For Stabbing Man to Death..."which links to a BBC Tayside and Central Scotland page "Perth drug dealer jailed for stabbing man to death" Poor form, I thought. :-[
Got to agree with you there. While links to stories such as 'Judge Dredd endorses Mitt Romney' (a real news article) kind of work, I don't think it's a good idea for The Peach Tree News to have a 'Judges suspected of rape' link that takes the user to a real story about Liberian policemen suspected of gang raping a teen. Not comfortable with that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 August, 2012, 07:38:52 PM
DREDDREPORT is a piss-take on the right-wing news-site DRUDGEREPORT (http://www.drudgereport.com/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 21 August, 2012, 07:42:44 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 21 August, 2012, 07:27:00 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 21 August, 2012, 06:55:41 PM
Some of those links on The Dredd Report link to actual stories,such "Mega-City One Dealer Sentenced to Iso-Cube For Stabbing Man to Death..."which links to a BBC Tayside and Central Scotland page "Perth drug dealer jailed for stabbing man to death" Poor form, I thought. :-[
Got to agree with you there. While links to stories such as 'Judge Dredd endorses Mitt Romney' (a real news article) kind of work, I don't think it's a good idea for The Peach Tree News to have a 'Judges suspected of rape' link that takes the user to a real story about Liberian policemen suspected of gang raping a teen. Not comfortable with that.

I posted something about it, thought it was good - the links I checked took me to Dredd books...sorry to see these links you mentioned, that's a bad move. A good idea otherwise.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 21 August, 2012, 07:45:14 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 August, 2012, 07:38:52 PM
DREDDREPORT is a piss-take on the right-wing news-site DRUDGEREPORT (http://www.drudgereport.com/)

There should be someone vetting these stories regardless.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 21 August, 2012, 07:46:30 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 21 August, 2012, 07:27:00 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 21 August, 2012, 06:55:41 PM
Some of those links on The Dredd Report link to actual stories,such "Mega-City One Dealer Sentenced to Iso-Cube For Stabbing Man to Death..."which links to a BBC Tayside and Central Scotland page "Perth drug dealer jailed for stabbing man to death" Poor form, I thought. :-[
Got to agree with you there. While links to stories such as 'Judge Dredd endorses Mitt Romney' (a real news article) kind of work, I don't think it's a good idea for The Peach Tree News to have a 'Judges suspected of rape' link that takes the user to a real story about Liberian policemen suspected of gang raping a teen. Not comfortable with that.

I was thinking the same thing. There has to be some better choices of news to turn turn into head lines than that.

For example, this? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19323061 "Obesity 'bad for brain' by hastening cognitive decline" could easily be translated into something.

or http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/7557799/Oriental-yeti-discovered-in-China.html being turned into something about "strange creatures of the waste land"

Should be at least one or two hundred different Cracked.com articles about crime fighting and what not to get some inspiration from. Because "judges suspected of rape" and alike will only likely inspire people to give the movie a bad rep.

I'll post this to the Facebook-page and on twitter. A heads up to those behind it. The idea "is good", but not in the long term.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 21 August, 2012, 07:47:08 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 21 August, 2012, 07:45:14 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 August, 2012, 07:38:52 PM
DREDDREPORT is a piss-take on the right-wing news-site DRUDGEREPORT (http://www.drudgereport.com/)

There should be someone vetting these stories regardless.

Right. It doesn't do Dredd any favours.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 August, 2012, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 21 August, 2012, 07:45:14 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 August, 2012, 07:38:52 PM
DREDDREPORT is a piss-take on the right-wing news-site DRUDGEREPORT (http://www.drudgereport.com/)

There should be someone vetting these stories regardless.


I wasn't defending it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 21 August, 2012, 08:00:25 PM
Fair enough.

Not sure if these are random stories or they've actually decided that was a suitable angle to use real world rape and murder stories.

If it's the latter they were either a naive fucking idiot, or some crass publicity stunt-seeking fucking idiot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 21 August, 2012, 08:01:41 PM
Yup, some of those links leave you feeling kinda awkward. I wonder if that's the intent, going for a bit of controversy?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 21 August, 2012, 08:04:11 PM
Quote from: Borntohula on 21 August, 2012, 07:46:30 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 21 August, 2012, 07:27:00 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 21 August, 2012, 06:55:41 PM
Some of those links on The Dredd Report link to actual stories,such "Mega-City One Dealer Sentenced to Iso-Cube For Stabbing Man to Death..."which links to a BBC Tayside and Central Scotland page "Perth drug dealer jailed for stabbing man to death" Poor form, I thought. :-[
Got to agree with you there. While links to stories such as 'Judge Dredd endorses Mitt Romney' (a real news article) kind of work, I don't think it's a good idea for The Peach Tree News to have a 'Judges suspected of rape' link that takes the user to a real story about Liberian policemen suspected of gang raping a teen. Not comfortable with that.

Right - here's a great Slo-Mo link for starters....Light in slow motion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_9vd4HWlVA&feature=player_embedded

I was thinking the same thing. There has to be some better choices of news to turn turn into head lines than that.

For example, this? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19323061 "Obesity 'bad for brain' by hastening cognitive decline" could easily be translated into something.

or http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/7557799/Oriental-yeti-discovered-in-China.html being turned into something about "strange creatures of the waste land"

Should be at least one or two hundred different Cracked.com articles about crime fighting and what not to get some inspiration from. Because "judges suspected of rape" and alike will only likely inspire people to give the movie a bad rep.

I'll post this to the Facebook-page and on twitter. A heads up to those behind it. The idea "is good", but not in the long term.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 21 August, 2012, 08:05:23 PM
I buried that by accident...here it is again.


Right - here's a great Slo-Mo link for starters....Light in slow motion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_9vd4HWlVA&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 21 August, 2012, 08:25:47 PM
I got some replies.

On FB from Dredd 3D(I think Lionsgate is behind it): "Thanks for the feedback Carl! We're definitely looking into it."

and from the 2000ad Twitter: "Yes, we noticed. Have passed comments on to Lionsgate, but nothing we can do beyond on that."

They're doing a great job responding. Hope it's sorted as quickly too!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 21 August, 2012, 08:32:28 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 21 August, 2012, 08:00:25 PM
Not sure if these are random stories or they've actually decided that was a suitable angle to use real world rape and murder stories. If it's the latter they were either a naive fucking idiot, or some crass publicity stunt-seeking fucking idiot.

They're making the point that Dredd reflects and relates to real world exigencies, rather than the revenge schemes of vengeful Nordic deities. The fact that some of the links lead to light-hearted items and others to things that are particularly grim seems to reflect the tone of the source material perfectly.

The links to items about drugs and Mexican cartels is particularly pertinent, but I'd agree that the wisdom of risking the perception that they're trivialising the use of rape as a military tactic seems questionable. That story doesn't seem to relate directly to the themes or content of the film, as far as I'm aware.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 21 August, 2012, 08:43:14 PM
I think that's giving them too much credit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 21 August, 2012, 08:52:27 PM
Way too much.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 21 August, 2012, 09:07:33 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 21 August, 2012, 08:43:14 PM
I think that's giving them too much credit.

Authorial intent is secondary to the interpretation of the reader; and, like I say, it's only the rape association that seems mis-judged to me.

My abiding interest in the epic, gothic levels of sadism and corruption in Mexican law enforcement and politics was sparked by the paralells between the hypocrisy of that failed state and the rule of the judges in Megacity One. The fact that today's news sometimes reflects this weeks prog, and vice-versa, won't be a revelation to anyone here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 August, 2012, 09:13:14 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 21 August, 2012, 08:32:28 PM

They're making the point that Dredd reflects and relates to real world exigencies, rather than the revenge schemes of vengeful Nordic deities. The fact that some of the links lead to light-hearted items and others to things that are particularly grim seems to reflect the tone of the source material perfectly.




It's a perfectly valid angle and the fact that they've done it at all is enough proof of concept despite the jarring nature of some of the associated content.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Toni Scandella on 21 August, 2012, 09:49:07 PM
Looks to me like it is probably randomised headlines where key words such as "Police" are replaced with "Judges", - you can tell by the grammar on some of the headlines where the changed keyword doesn't quite work - "Judges Raid Exposed Money Trail..." for example - other headlines work really well, though, so maybe they are hand picked... "Sexmek Sales Are Up! Are Pleasure Robots A Woman's Best Friend..."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 21 August, 2012, 09:57:25 PM
Quote from: Toni Scandella on 21 August, 2012, 09:49:07 PM
other headlines work really well, though, so maybe they are hand picked... "Sexmek Sales Are Up! Are Pleasure Robots A Woman's Best Friend..."

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/492006/thumbs/s-VIBRATOR-large.jpg)

Are they meant to be that shape? If that's The Shape of Things To Cum, it explains a lot about my life.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 August, 2012, 10:00:19 PM
Anyone notice a particular moniker of someone get namechecked - the atrium-shaft shot as the inhaler spins down - in the SLO-MO public-service-announcement:



(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6379/goatyf.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 21 August, 2012, 10:04:10 PM
Your Famous Goaty!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 21 August, 2012, 10:08:33 PM
These subtle name checks are awesome, I should'a joined this forum years ago and thrown my weight around a bit. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 August, 2012, 10:10:20 PM
That's one of the other forum names Alex mentioned. Well done on the find Joe Soap!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 21 August, 2012, 10:13:48 PM
I'm sure there's a Zarjazzer block somewhere. Just can't see it ...  congrats to Goaty and well spotted Joe Soap.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 August, 2012, 10:14:01 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 August, 2012, 10:00:19 PM
Anyone notice a particular moniker of someone get namechecked - the atrium-shaft shot as the inhaler spins down - in the SLO-MO public-service-announcement:



(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6379/goatyf.png)

Fucking awesome!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 August, 2012, 10:18:20 PM
Well spotting Joe Soap! Alex do like me!

(http://i.imgur.com/MGe5o.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 21 August, 2012, 10:19:04 PM
Great stuff - what a buzz! The next edition of Sillyworld should be a bit special...!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DrRocka on 21 August, 2012, 11:07:02 PM
Congratulations, Goaty, that's gotta be a dream come true, mate!
No-one deserves it more, in my opinion- Lionsgate should hire you to do the promotion for the next one!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 21 August, 2012, 11:24:02 PM
Superb stuff!

Well done Goaty!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 August, 2012, 11:30:20 PM
Quote from: Banners on 21 August, 2012, 10:19:04 PM
Great stuff - what a buzz! The next edition of Sillyworld should be a bit special...!

Yeah, I gotta to. Lol.

It's still amazing news and looking forward to that on big screen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 21 August, 2012, 11:35:33 PM
Wahooooo! Well done Goaty!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 22 August, 2012, 12:04:31 AM
Praise be the Goaty  :o, . . .  that's a big ten four there good buddy! from the Dredd 3D TEAM!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 22 August, 2012, 12:06:26 AM
Congrats Goaty!  That's fantastic news!  Delighted for you sir!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 22 August, 2012, 12:18:05 AM
Quote from: Mardroid on 21 August, 2012, 03:49:12 PM
Apart from the "Yeaahhhh" bit, I thought that worked pretty well.

And I liked the sound track too.

The 'yeeah' thing is actually my favourite part. :D

And well done, Goaty. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 22 August, 2012, 12:43:50 AM
Fantastic Goaty, thrilled for you mate!   :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 22 August, 2012, 12:45:49 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 August, 2012, 10:00:19 PM
Anyone notice a particular moniker of someone get namechecked - the atrium-shaft shot as the inhaler spins down - in the SLO-MO public-service-announcement:



(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6379/goatyf.png)

Nice one, talking of namechecks I coined the "Say no to slo mo" on here a few months ago. Jeez, wheres my 15 seconds of fame lol
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 22 August, 2012, 04:59:20 AM
@Goaty: That`s so cool :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 22 August, 2012, 05:36:07 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 21 August, 2012, 10:18:20 PM
Well spotting Joe Soap! Alex do like me!


That's amazing haha! Congratulations!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 22 August, 2012, 07:07:17 AM
Wow jammy bugger  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 22 August, 2012, 07:29:55 AM
Congrats Goaty!

RE comments on the news reports etc, I'm more surprised - saddened- that there isn't a link to 2000 AD that I can see.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 August, 2012, 08:32:41 AM
Quote from: Teivion on 22 August, 2012, 07:29:55 AM
RE comments on the news reports etc, I'm more surprised - saddened- that there isn't a link to 2000 AD that I can see.


There is.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 22 August, 2012, 08:49:20 AM
 CRAVE AIN'T IT COOL NEWS CINEMA BLEND
Michael Alvarez Amy Martin James M. Clark Rachel West Mandeep Chohan John A. Cavooto Leah David AJ Vanek  TOTAL FILM SFX JOBLO HOLLYWOOD.COM IGN FIRSTSHOWING.NET COMICBOOK.COM

Well above is the copyn paste to the links at the bottom of Dredd Report, no 2000 ad ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 22 August, 2012, 09:07:10 AM
Quote from: Teivion on 22 August, 2012, 08:49:20 AM
CRAVE AIN'T IT COOL NEWS CINEMA BLEND
Michael Alvarez Amy Martin James M. Clark Rachel West Mandeep Chohan John A. Cavooto Leah David AJ Vanek  TOTAL FILM SFX JOBLO HOLLYWOOD.COM IGN FIRSTSHOWING.NET COMICBOOK.COM

Well above is the copyn paste to the links at the bottom of Dredd Report, no 2000 ad ?

That's odd. The TV spot doesn't even mention 2000AD which I thought was a shame. After all, if your average cit who knows nothing of 2000AD catches the movie and takes a notion to pick up a comic they probably won't know where to start if the brand isn't promoted by the movie. Without knowing what new stuff to pick up they'll likely grab the first Case Files, which might not hold up well enough to hook them in.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 August, 2012, 09:15:16 AM
Quote from: Teivion on 22 August, 2012, 08:49:20 AM
CRAVE AIN'T IT COOL NEWS CINEMA BLEND
Michael Alvarez Amy Martin James M. Clark Rachel West Mandeep Chohan John A. Cavooto Leah David AJ Vanek  TOTAL FILM SFX JOBLO HOLLYWOOD.COM IGN FIRSTSHOWING.NET COMICBOOK.COM

Well above is the copyn paste to the links at the bottom of Dredd Report, no 2000 ad ?


There is, try the link under this image:


(http://www.dreddreport.com/external/peachtree/images/thumb_cityhall.jpg)



http://www.dreddreport.com/external/peachtree/block.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 August, 2012, 09:46:34 AM
Good finding, Mr Soap on 2000AD links. It's looks great as mixed with current news. Some is bit out of touch of course but still great. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 22 August, 2012, 09:48:15 AM
Brilliantly, up until yesterday the movie was listed as DREDD 3D on the Odeon website. However, today, all reference to "Dredd 3D" has disappeared and it is now listed only under the title "Dredd 2D". I assume someone somewhere has had the brainwave that it can't possibly be the third one after all, and has given it the title more becoming its sequel-to-Stallone status!

SBT

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 August, 2012, 09:56:40 AM
Someone tweet another billboard.

(https://p.twimg.com/A015iVkCIAAWt3Y.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 22 August, 2012, 10:18:52 AM
My wife emailed me at work yesterday to say she'd seen a billboard on her way to work in Leeds. "I got excited for you." she said.

I've asked her to take a pic today.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 August, 2012, 10:57:40 AM
Awesome - Urban is the man! As someone post it in IMDB -

A good friend of mine bumped into Karl Urban walking out of LAX. As soon as he saw him he rushed over and said "omg you are Karl Urban, Judge Dredd!"

Urban turned around cold as ice, lowered his sunglasses and said :

"2 years in the cubes punk, disturbing an on duty Judge"

Rofl just awesome.

Urban is epic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 22 August, 2012, 11:35:16 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 22 August, 2012, 10:57:40 AM
Awesome - Urban is the man! As someone post it in IMDB -

A good friend of mine bumped into Karl Urban walking out of LAX. As soon as he saw him he rushed over and said "omg you are Karl Urban, Judge Dredd!"

Urban turned around cold as ice, lowered his sunglasses and said :

"2 years in the cubes punk, disturbing an on duty Judge"

Rofl just awesome.

Urban is epic.


Class act!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 22 August, 2012, 11:38:34 AM
Now that's method acting!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 22 August, 2012, 12:03:23 PM
That's brilliant. He does come across as a nice bloke, unlike many other actors that shall not be named...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 22 August, 2012, 12:04:49 PM
It makes a refreshing change to see an actor that really, REALLY digs the character he's playing and...HE GETS IT!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 22 August, 2012, 01:01:47 PM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 22 August, 2012, 09:07:10 AMAfter all, if your average cit who knows nothing of 2000AD catches the movie and takes a notion to pick up a comic they probably won't know where to start if the brand isn't promoted by the movie.
I think it's unrealistic to think the Dredd movie will make a big push for the 2000 AD comic, but some of the features have included it (one even having a section with Matt), and so I think at worst it'll showcase that Dredd and 2000 AD is an ongoing concern (something you wouldn't necessarily know from interviews with the likes of Ennis).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 22 August, 2012, 01:17:39 PM
True - but its a great shame not to see the 2k logo on any publicity I've seen so far.

Anyway, its all looking rather splendid.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 22 August, 2012, 01:25:00 PM
Competition here from IGN, the best contributor to the Dredd Wiki gets a PS3. http://uk.ign.com/wikis/judge-dredd/Contributor_Challenge
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 22 August, 2012, 03:22:18 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 22 August, 2012, 12:03:23 PM
That's brilliant. He does come across as a nice bloke, unlike many other actors that shall not be named...

True...but with a handy mix of no-nonsense.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chris_askham on 22 August, 2012, 05:50:55 PM
I passed four massive billboard posters of Dredd on my bus route to work this morning (Nottingham). The last couple of weeks there have been two showing the cityscape 'Judgement Is Coming' one and this morning two of the new 'Dredd on Rooftop' ones have popped up. They're all well spaced out so I pass one about every 5 minutes.

Each one I go past gives me a little tingle of anticipation...

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 22 August, 2012, 05:53:28 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 22 August, 2012, 01:25:00 PM
Competition here from IGN, the best contributor to the Dredd Wiki gets a PS3. http://uk.ign.com/wikis/judge-dredd/Contributor_Challenge
This competition is only open to the queen's subjects.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 August, 2012, 06:49:00 PM
Quote from: chris_askham on 22 August, 2012, 05:50:55 PM
I passed four massive billboard posters of Dredd on my bus route to work this morning (Nottingham). The last couple of weeks there have been two showing the cityscape 'Judgement Is Coming' one and this morning two of the new 'Dredd on Rooftop' ones have popped up. They're all well spaced out so I pass one about every 5 minutes.

Each one I go past gives me a little tingle of anticipation...

Weird, I've not seen a single billboard around London so far...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 August, 2012, 06:49:48 PM
Neither have I.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 22 August, 2012, 06:52:56 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 22 August, 2012, 01:01:47 PM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 22 August, 2012, 09:07:10 AMAfter all, if your average cit who knows nothing of 2000AD catches the movie and takes a notion to pick up a comic they probably won't know where to start if the brand isn't promoted by the movie.
I think it's unrealistic to think the Dredd movie will make a big push for the 2000 AD comic, but some of the features have included it (one even having a section with Matt), and so I think at worst it'll showcase that Dredd and 2000 AD is an ongoing concern (something you wouldn't necessarily know from interviews with the likes of Ennis).

Also we should be impressed that the TV spot mentions that Dredd is based on The Legendary Comic Book!

Wasn't so long ago that "based on a comic" was a dirty word to a lot of less enlightened film studios.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 22 August, 2012, 06:55:09 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 22 August, 2012, 06:49:00 PM
Quote from: chris_askham on 22 August, 2012, 05:50:55 PM
I passed four massive billboard posters of Dredd on my bus route to work this morning (Nottingham). The last couple of weeks there have been two showing the cityscape 'Judgement Is Coming' one and this morning two of the new 'Dredd on Rooftop' ones have popped up. They're all well spaced out so I pass one about every 5 minutes.

Each one I go past gives me a little tingle of anticipation...

Weird, I've not seen a single billboard around London so far...

None in my hometown of Ashford, Kent either-and there's a billboard crying out for one too!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 22 August, 2012, 07:17:55 PM
New TV spot,great grimace from Urban near the end
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JakeLester/news/?a=66146
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 22 August, 2012, 07:28:38 PM
Now THAT's more like it.  Urban is fantastic, just fantastic, as Dredd.  That's as close to my personal idea of Old Stoney Face as I can imagaine.

And how about that Lawmaster in action!  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 August, 2012, 07:33:28 PM
Chief Judge at the end.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 22 August, 2012, 07:58:26 PM
Drokkin' AWESOME. :D

[spoiler]"How do you plead?"[/spoiler] :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 22 August, 2012, 08:27:44 PM
 :D 'Perps were unco-operative'! . . . Pure Dredd delivered like Eastwood was under the helmet!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 22 August, 2012, 08:34:58 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 22 August, 2012, 08:27:44 PM
:D 'Perps were unco-operative'! . . . Pure Dredd delivered like Eastwood was under the helmet!

The Northern Irish accent was a bold choice.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ED GRIMREAPER on 22 August, 2012, 08:42:52 PM
That TV spot was FANTASTIC!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 August, 2012, 08:48:41 PM
Awesome! I love that Lawmaster!

That's the Dredd!

(http://i.imgur.com/3i9lS.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 22 August, 2012, 08:52:05 PM
Yep!  That frame is the man!    :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 22 August, 2012, 09:05:45 PM
More great footage!

Oh happy day!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 22 August, 2012, 09:25:44 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 22 August, 2012, 07:28:38 PM
Now THAT's more like it.  Urban is fantastic, just fantastic, as Dredd.  That's as close to my personal idea of Old Stoney Face as I can imagaine. And how about that Lawmaster in action!  :o

The Lawmaster was one of the things I was most concerned about, and it's turned out to be a non-issue. I was never worried about Urban, I just thought he would be no better or worse than a few dozen other actors in the role. Every single review has praised his performance, though- so I'm getting used to being pleasantly surprised by this film at every turn.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 22 August, 2012, 09:49:14 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 22 August, 2012, 06:49:00 PM
Weird, I've not seen a single billboard around London so far...

Quote from: radiator on 22 August, 2012, 06:49:48 PM
Neither have I.

Two on the North Circular, westbound from Bounds Green.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 22 August, 2012, 09:54:51 PM
yay it looks great.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 22 August, 2012, 10:20:26 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 22 August, 2012, 06:52:56 PM
Also we should be impressed that the TV spot mentions that Dredd is based on The Legendary Comic Book!

Wasn't so long ago that "based on a comic" was a dirty word to a lot of less enlightened film studios.

I presume it's to distance the new film from 'STALLONE' 'JUDGE DREDD'. Now those are dirty words.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 22 August, 2012, 10:39:29 PM
Wash your mouth out with soap Plumrose!
  ;)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 22 August, 2012, 10:49:41 PM
Well, if Joe's willing to oblige . . .
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 22 August, 2012, 10:50:42 PM
Great seeing the advertising being ramped up, and every little new snippet of new footage gets me more and more excited that we're going to get the film we've always wanted!  Think it is time to stop counting the days and start counting the hours!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 August, 2012, 11:08:34 PM
Quote from: Eric Plumrose on 22 August, 2012, 10:49:41 PM
Well, if Joe's willing to oblige . . .


Open wide.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 22 August, 2012, 11:25:36 PM
Not seen an billboards/advertising in Manchester yet
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buttonman on 22 August, 2012, 11:29:45 PM
Caught it during Hells Kitchen USA, er, the wife was watching and called me in (poor Robyn!) and it looked great. I'd have probably went along even if I was a fan already. Maybe a bit more Rob Schnieder to sway the unconvinced?

Have seen massive billboards on Paisley Road West, Hawkhead Road and Westerhill Road. It's like they are targeting the market to gain reflected glory for some local Weakest Link winning, letter writing hero who lives/works nearby.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 August, 2012, 11:32:00 PM
My SillyWorld tribute to Dredd 3D as thanks for graffiti tag in the film!!

(http://i.imgur.com/NLTfl.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 22 August, 2012, 11:39:05 PM
I love how he appeared to be standing to attention for "Perps were, uncooperative"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 23 August, 2012, 12:45:58 AM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 22 August, 2012, 11:39:05 PM
I love how he appeared to be standing to attention for "Perps were, uncooperative"

I'm assuming he was asked something like.. "541 summary executions. Were they necessary?"

Dredd '95 owned again.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 23 August, 2012, 07:42:35 AM
Quote from: Stan on 23 August, 2012, 12:45:58 AM
Quote from: Diminished Responsibility on 22 August, 2012, 11:39:05 PM
I love how he appeared to be standing to attention for "Perps were, uncooperative"

I'm assuming he was asked something like.. "541 summary executions. Were they necessary?"

Dredd '95 owned again.
:)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: auxlen on 23 August, 2012, 07:50:45 AM
both style billboards in Rochdale.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 23 August, 2012, 10:11:37 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 22 August, 2012, 11:32:00 PM
My SillyWorld tribute to Dredd 3D as thanks for graffiti tag in the film!!

(http://i.imgur.com/NLTfl.jpg)
Lolz
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 23 August, 2012, 10:19:05 AM
That's the business, Goaty.   :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 23 August, 2012, 01:16:30 PM
Indeed it is, and congrats on your mention: well-deserved.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 23 August, 2012, 02:46:11 PM
New featurette on slow-motion at Orange

http://web.orange.co.uk/p/film/home?package=2026
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 23 August, 2012, 02:48:53 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 23 August, 2012, 02:46:11 PM
New featurette on slow-motion at Orange

http://web.orange.co.uk/p/film/home?package=2026
[/quote

Good find!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 August, 2012, 03:59:01 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 23 August, 2012, 02:46:11 PM
New featurette on slow-motion at Orange

http://web.orange.co.uk/p/film/home?package=2026

Wow I like that colour effects!

(http://i.imgur.com/YsSS6.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 August, 2012, 04:07:52 PM
YouTube version of Dredd TV Spot "Judges" which was yesterday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7HvVRc-gVA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7HvVRc-gVA)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 23 August, 2012, 04:59:45 PM
Tickets now on sale for Empire Leicester Square
First showing 13:15 7th Sept.

http://www.empirecinemas.co.uk/index.php?tbx_site_id=5
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 23 August, 2012, 05:13:56 PM
I may treat myself to the Empire, although I remember it being painfully loud last time I went. Although that was 15 years ago...

More importantly spotted a Dredd billboard round the corner. So yay.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 August, 2012, 05:18:28 PM
Was that billboard round the corner from your house, or The Empire?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 23 August, 2012, 05:51:51 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 23 August, 2012, 04:07:52 PM
YouTube version of Dredd TV Spot "Judges" which was yesterday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7HvVRc-gVA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7HvVRc-gVA)

I like this convergence of box office @ home characters mixing it up with feature film representatives. It makes the idea of maybe a series on an expanded budget quite treatable.

Over the top ball spitting gore and indefinite trysts and turns would be a good Dredd box set.

On my tv the footage looks a bit faded electronically. To put it another way, is this the first time this type of cinematography has been shown on a worldwide tv stream? If you get my meaning?

Yup. And good show Goaty. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 23 August, 2012, 07:47:21 PM
You Tube versions I've seen are all US versions with September 21st on them... Some silly UK viewers are goung to miss 2 weeks of this movie if they aren't careful.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 23 August, 2012, 07:52:05 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 August, 2012, 05:18:28 PM
Was that billboard round the corner from your house, or The Empire?

From my house - I would guess the Empire still has the Expendables poster up, I doubt they'd be up on the 1st, but may be worth a look in case.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 23 August, 2012, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 23 August, 2012, 05:13:56 PM
... More importantly spotted a Dredd billboard round the corner. So yay.

Spotted on the A71, headed towards Edinburgh, near Hermiston Gate. That image works brilliantly as a billboard; the relative proportions of the image area and the text, the contrasting colours, the pose, the textures, the typography- everything looks fantastic and sells the film much better than I could ever have hoped.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 23 August, 2012, 08:44:51 PM
DON'T enter the contest to see DREDD 3D on 30th August

DREDD 3D - EXCLUSIVE SCREENING
London, 30 Aug, 6:30 for 7:00
introduced by
KARL URBAN!!!


DON'T go to John Wagner's Facebook page, and DON'T submit your entry to win one of four tickets.

Oh, did I forget the link? Deary me!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 23 August, 2012, 08:45:56 PM
Has this little piece of shit stirring been posted yet.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolpinchefsky/2012/08/21/2000-ad-comic-book-is-snubbed-in-latest-dredd-3d-trailer/



V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 23 August, 2012, 08:52:11 PM
Definately DON'T click this link! (https://t.co/BMN5weah)
And once again, DON'T enter the contest.

@vzzbux
Yes, it has.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: willthemightyW on 23 August, 2012, 10:48:27 PM
I have a huge problem. Right now, as it stands, I'm not old enough to get into an 18. My birthday however, should fall a couple a days before the release... Good news? No. I'll be 17. ARRRGH! I guess if I get my dad to go up and get my ticket, I'll try and avoid getting ID'd at the door, I guess if I go in late during the trailers it might work, but then again I might be risking an iso-cube!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 23 August, 2012, 10:53:26 PM
Quote from: willthemightyW on 23 August, 2012, 10:48:27 PM
I have a huge problem. Right now, as it stands, I'm not old enough to get into an 18. My birthday however, should fall a couple a days before the release... Good news? No. I'll be 17. ARRRGH! I guess if I get my dad to go up and get my ticket, I'll try and avoid getting ID'd at the door, I guess if I go in late during the trailers it might work, but then again I might be risking an iso-cube!

Grow a beard :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 23 August, 2012, 11:05:47 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 23 August, 2012, 10:53:26 PM
Quote from: willthemightyW on 23 August, 2012, 10:48:27 PM
I have a huge problem. Right now, as it stands, I'm not old enough to get into an 18. My birthday however, should fall a couple a days before the release... Good news? No. I'll be 17. ARRRGH! I guess if I get my dad to go up and get my ticket, I'll try and avoid getting ID'd at the door, I guess if I go in late during the trailers it might work, but then again I might be risking an iso-cube!

Grow a beard :D

Good idea, do it, you have time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 23 August, 2012, 11:12:39 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 23 August, 2012, 11:05:47 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 23 August, 2012, 10:53:26 PM
Quote from: willthemightyW on 23 August, 2012, 10:48:27 PM
I have a huge problem. Right now, as it stands, I'm not old enough to get into an 18. My birthday however, should fall a couple a days before the release... Good news? No. I'll be 17. ARRRGH! I guess if I get my dad to go up and get my ticket, I'll try and avoid getting ID'd at the door, I guess if I go in late during the trailers it might work, but then again I might be risking an iso-cube!

Grow a beard :D

Good idea, do it, you have time.
Then don't stand face to the wind or let the cat lick it off.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 23 August, 2012, 11:18:23 PM
What? Has the world gone mad? I was getting into 18s at 14 and 15- was lifeforce, aliens, nightmare on elm street or a friday the 13th sequel the first one? I have no idea now. Do they demand to see people's id now then? But that's just stupid- it's movie. What's going to happen if a seventeen year old sees an 18 film, do they think? And when was the last time a cinema in britain was fined or closed down for admitting an underage patron? Has it ever happened? When i worked in a cinema, we used to let anyone in as long as they had an arse to fill a seat. Any cinema that actually checks id deserves to be shut down immediately for really not fucking getting the point.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 23 August, 2012, 11:34:36 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 23 August, 2012, 11:18:23 PM
What? Has the world gone mad? I was getting into 18s at 14 and 15- was lifeforce, aliens, nightmare on elm street or a friday the 13th sequel the first one? I have no idea now. Do they demand to see people's id now then? But that's just stupid- it's movie. What's going to happen if a seventeen year old sees an 18 film, do they think? And when was the last time a cinema in britain was fined or closed down for admitting an underage patron? Has it ever happened? When i worked in a cinema, we used to let anyone in as long as they had an arse to fill a seat. Any cinema that actually checks id deserves to be shut down immediately for really not fucking getting the point.

SBT

Quite right SBT.  My first cinema 18 was Total Recall when I brazenly bought a ticket at the age of 15 (also saw the 15 cert Witness when I was 10). 
18 may be the law, but some laws are meant to be broken, especially when it's to see the law in action!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 August, 2012, 11:35:29 PM
It's the law ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 23 August, 2012, 11:39:34 PM
Saw a billboard on the motorway today, just as I was telling my girlfriend about Alex Garland sneaking my username into the film!

Ace!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 24 August, 2012, 12:15:40 AM
My brother put golf balls(!) in his shoes to appear taller because he wanted to see Body Heat.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 August, 2012, 12:28:26 AM
Surely the golf balls would've been more impressive placed elsewhere?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: willthemightyW on 24 August, 2012, 12:30:01 AM
Yeah I always get ID'd but I've started going in while the trailers are on when there's no one on the door
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 24 August, 2012, 12:37:17 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 22 August, 2012, 08:48:41 PM
Awesome! I love that Lawmaster!

That's the Dredd!

(http://i.imgur.com/3i9lS.jpg)

Uff, look at that! Absolutely fantastic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 24 August, 2012, 12:44:41 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 24 August, 2012, 12:28:26 AM
Surely the golf balls would've been more impressive placed elsewhere?

Haha! Might have gotten him arrested instead of a ticket for the movie...!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 August, 2012, 08:11:54 AM
Two weeks to go!

(http://i.imgur.com/JL9Ym.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 24 August, 2012, 09:03:17 AM
I can't believe it's that close, crazy! I think I am gonna buy tickets for every night of it's run.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 24 August, 2012, 10:00:30 AM
Im on holiday for two weeks,afternoon showings untill they. Ome out off my ears,think I might go for the record.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 24 August, 2012, 10:30:38 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 24 August, 2012, 12:15:40 AM
My brother put golf balls(!) in his shoes to appear taller because he wanted to see Body Heat.

That sounds pretty painful!  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 24 August, 2012, 10:40:26 AM
Another chance to win tickets for the London screening on 30th August.

http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2012/08/24/win-tickets-to-a-preview-screening-of-dredd-introduced-by-karl-urban/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 24 August, 2012, 10:45:19 AM
And another, from the tweet droid

https://twitter.com/2000AD/status/238932956306096128/photo/1
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 24 August, 2012, 01:00:42 PM
We got turned away from the cinema when we tried to get in to see Aliens in 1986 at the age of 15, because my thick mate turned up with a pathetic, whispy, 3 day old cobweb of a moustache which actually made him look younger, AND the dumb bastard had a SHIRT AND TIE ON to make himself look grown up, BUT IT WAS HIS SCHOOL SHIRT AND TIE.

I was so mad at him as I'd been looking forward to seeing it for months and we'd have got in without his ridiculous shenanegans.

Silly bastard.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 August, 2012, 01:21:58 PM
On IMDB homepage...

*as Mr Burns* Excellent!

(http://i.imgur.com/lTHVI.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 24 August, 2012, 02:07:35 PM
The funniest thing I ever saw at a cinema was when a group of us went to see 18 cert remake of The Blob at a new multiplex(We were 16)

We got driven there by there by one my mates Sisters boyfriend, who drove a flashy Astra GTi and was 21.

He looked younger than his age and got turned away-we went straight through, no questions asked!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 24 August, 2012, 02:08:35 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 24 August, 2012, 01:00:42 PM
We got turned away from the cinema when we tried to get in to see Aliens in 1986 at the age of 15, because my thick mate turned up with a pathetic, whispy, 3 day old cobweb of a moustache which actually made him look younger, AND the dumb bastard had a SHIRT AND TIE ON to make himself look grown up, BUT IT WAS HIS SCHOOL SHIRT AND TIE.

I was so mad at him as I'd been looking forward to seeing it for months and we'd have got in without his ridiculous shenanegans.

Silly bastard.
:lol: shenanegans
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 24 August, 2012, 02:11:16 PM
Ok...I went to the cinema to see Exorcist 2 at 9 yrs old, no questions asked. Was I horrified?...yes, it was horrifically bad. This was LA in the late 70's, I guess everybody was too stoned.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 August, 2012, 02:19:16 PM
I went see Se7en when I was 15, that film does really fucked me up!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 24 August, 2012, 02:25:12 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 24 August, 2012, 01:21:58 PM
On IMDB homepage...

*as Mr Burns* Excellent!

http://i.imgur.com/lTHVI.png

Stolen? Even as a Cage fanboy that sounds a lot like the plot and title of Taken.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 24 August, 2012, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 24 August, 2012, 02:19:16 PM
I went see Se7en when I was 15, that film does really fucked me up!

Your grammar never recovered...

:P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 24 August, 2012, 05:34:25 PM
IGN DREDD 3D COMP

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/08/24/change-the-law-and-win-big-with-dredd-3d

Not too sure which thread to stick this in or if you guys already know about it,any road some lovely prizes going.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 24 August, 2012, 05:56:15 PM
That judge helmet would be nice.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 24 August, 2012, 06:00:28 PM
Yeah,or the lawgiver.... can't get into that Twitter though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 24 August, 2012, 07:50:25 PM
Paul Leonard-Morgan's DREDD 3D score download & CD September 3rd & 10th respectively.

Preview all tracks here:

http://soundcloud.com/metropolis-movie-music/sets/paul-leonard-morgan-dredd/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 24 August, 2012, 08:18:29 PM
Nice ,wondered when that was out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 24 August, 2012, 08:32:46 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 24 August, 2012, 07:50:25 PM
Preview all tracks here:
http://soundcloud.com/metropolis-movie-music/sets/paul-leonard-morgan-dredd/

^ Spoilers! ^

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 24 August, 2012, 08:49:35 PM
Sounds Good so far.
I think the Brad Fiedel / John Carpenteryness of 'Drokk' was more easy listening but I'm sure this version plays better onscreen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 24 August, 2012, 09:32:35 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 24 August, 2012, 02:19:16 PM
I went see Se7en when I was 15, that film does really fucked me up!
Aye, but that was a good movie...crapola is much more damaging!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 24 August, 2012, 09:47:50 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 24 August, 2012, 06:00:28 PM
Yeah,or the lawgiver.... can't get into that Twitter though.

Already got one ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 24 August, 2012, 09:51:01 PM
''Here's one I made earlier''  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 25 August, 2012, 05:52:10 AM
First of all, looking forward to the flick hell yes.

Second of all, whate ever happened to the "edit" button we used to have years back?

Third, why doesn't PJ Maybe have a cameo in this movie?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 25 August, 2012, 06:14:59 AM
Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 25 August, 2012, 05:52:10 AM
Third, why doesn't PJ Maybe have a cameo in this movie?

Walter the Wobot better be in there!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 25 August, 2012, 08:10:02 AM
Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 25 August, 2012, 05:52:10 AM
First of all, looking forward to the flick hell yes.

Second of all, whate ever happened to the "edit" button we used to have years back?

Third, why doesn't PJ Maybe have a cameo in this movie?

Oddly enough that edit button is still active on one or two of these threads, or was a few weeks back, so I don't see why it can't be active here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 25 August, 2012, 08:17:24 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 25 August, 2012, 06:14:59 AM
Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 25 August, 2012, 05:52:10 AM
Third, why doesn't PJ Maybe have a cameo in this movie?

Walter the Wobot better be in there!!

And Max Normal, gotta have the pinstripe freak.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 25 August, 2012, 12:16:45 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 25 August, 2012, 06:14:59 AM
Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 25 August, 2012, 05:52:10 AM
Third, why doesn't PJ Maybe have a cameo in this movie?

Walter the Wobot better be in there!!

Christ, no, not Walter, please.  Nothing pleased me more than when Mean Angel "killed" him off (yes, I know he was resurrected years later).  For me, he's Dredd's equivalent of Jar Jar Binks.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 25 August, 2012, 12:46:11 PM
Only if he was destroyed in slow-motion and 3D. Many times.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 25 August, 2012, 12:56:36 PM
Pleased to see this in the Grimsby-Cleethorpes Conurb yesterday.
The billboard is conveniently located just across the road from the main station of that other fictional law agency - Humberside Police,  ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/hkb70.jpg)

..and now, less than two weeks to go. Blimey.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 25 August, 2012, 12:57:40 PM
Have Max Normal played by Leslie Phillips and dubbed by the bloke who played Huggy Bear.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 25 August, 2012, 01:00:21 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 25 August, 2012, 12:57:40 PM
Have Max Normal played by Leslie Phillips and dubbed by the bloke who played Huggy Bear.

Hahahaha!  Brilliant!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 25 August, 2012, 01:56:40 PM
Quote from: The Bissler on 25 August, 2012, 12:16:45 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 25 August, 2012, 06:14:59 AM
Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 25 August, 2012, 05:52:10 AM
Third, why doesn't PJ Maybe have a cameo in this movie?

Walter the Wobot better be in there!!

Christ, no, not Walter, please.  Nothing pleased me more than when Mean Angel "killed" him off (yes, I know he was resurrected years later).  For me, he's Dredd's equivalent of Jar Jar Binks.

(http://i460.photobucket.com/albums/qq322/bucketmusic/life_of_brian_allstar-5468.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 25 August, 2012, 02:46:54 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 24 August, 2012, 05:34:25 PM
IGN DREDD 3D COMP

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/08/24/change-the-law-and-win-big-with-dredd-3d

Not too sure which thread to stick this in or if you guys already know about it,any road some lovely prizes going.

Thanks. I entered it...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 25 August, 2012, 03:11:06 PM
Radlands of Wood Green, north London today.

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x141/mycenaean/photos/IMG_1642.jpg)

Damn, this is my favourite film ever and I haven't even seen it yet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Toni Scandella on 25 August, 2012, 05:12:31 PM
Two big posters right by Man United - so everyone going there today for the first home game of the season will see them :) One at the Trafford Centre ring road thing, too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 August, 2012, 05:56:36 PM
High quality of Mega City 1.
Now do you still think Mega City looks small? Need Blu-Ray to zoom in those names!

I maybe wrong but at far left bottom, is that graffiti of Mean-Machine!

(http://i.imgur.com/y2H8l.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 25 August, 2012, 06:05:48 PM
Happy to see 3 within a few hundred yards of each other at the retail park near me in Wimbledon.

Was the graffiti one USA only?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 August, 2012, 06:09:27 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 25 August, 2012, 06:05:48 PM
Happy to see 3 within a few hundred yards of each other at the retail park near me in Wimbledon.

Was the graffiti one USA only?

Someone mentioned that he saws the graffiti poster in Ireland. So it not in UK? I am in London, there none at Underground; mayb it would be next week?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 25 August, 2012, 06:10:19 PM
Is that Jock block at the back.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 25 August, 2012, 06:14:36 PM
I doubt you would get the graffiti one one the tube anyway, they have (or had) a policy of not using posters with graffiti styling.

I haven't seen the others though - but I'm not sure how much poster placement costs in the tube vs exterior billboards.

Like you say, they may just be holding off for the final week for that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buttonman on 25 August, 2012, 06:36:43 PM
Good pic Goaty - spent too long peering at that.

Spotted ONEIL, TOM FRAME, ATLANTIC TOWERS, JOCK and PEACH TREES. I see the head you mean but it would be a stretch to say it was Mean Machine.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 25 August, 2012, 07:57:35 PM
Report on Alex Garland  Q&A At Frightfest



http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/08/25/dredds-alex-garland-gives-awkward-qa-at-frightfest/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/08/25/dredds-alex-garland-gives-awkward-qa-at-frightfest/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 25 August, 2012, 08:29:01 PM
Hmm - I think that may be reading more into it than there is, or trying to make a story out of not much.

Take for example if Pete Travis was a fan or not - Danny Cannon was a fan, and look how that film turned out. It's been suggested that Pete Travis was more a director for hire, in the same way Kershner and Marquand were for Empire and Jedi.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 25 August, 2012, 08:47:31 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 25 August, 2012, 08:29:01 PM
Hmm - I think that may be reading more into it than there is, or trying to make a story out of not much. Take for example if Pete Travis was a fan or not - Danny Cannon was a fan, and look how that film turned out. It's been suggested that Pete Travis was more a director for hire, in the same way Kershner and Marquand were for Empire and Jedi.

That was pretty much my understanding of the situation, even before those reports surfaced. The fact that Garland and MacDonald fronted the August 2011 Empire feature seemed to indicate exactly how the ground lay. Does it really matter if Travis and Garland aren't facebook friends? I manage to work perfectly well alongside people who really aren't my cup of tea without it affecting how well we do our jobs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 25 August, 2012, 09:02:08 PM
I really couldn't care less about any back stage wrangling, the finished film is all I, and I would think any other fan, cares about. Pretty poor form and irrelevent reporting from who's concerned.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 25 August, 2012, 09:12:38 PM
In Goaty's Hi Res pic I'm sure I can see a face and shoulders of someone. It's on the bottom left hand side of the picture on the building with 3 vertical vents or chimneys. There's some purply graffiti above it and the head has a brightish yellow colour surrounding it.

It reminds me of Ezquerra style but who it is I've no idea who it is.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 25 August, 2012, 09:19:35 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 25 August, 2012, 09:02:08 PM
I really couldn't care less about any back stage wrangling, the finished film is all I, and I would think any other fan, cares about. Pretty poor form and irrelevent reporting from who's concerned.

It gave you the feeling that it was inconceivable for anyone other than a director to have any input into the film, but then that happens a lot I suppose. The music wasn't sent to the director? The horror!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 August, 2012, 09:24:37 PM
I've seen the bods at Bleeding Cool engineer conflicts where there's been none or little before, to the point where those involved intervened.

I remember reading a particular article about a Dr. Who artist who then made a statement in response to the article which claimed the opposite to what the journalist claimed. The article was updated with his statement and the journo - who had no involvement in the reported incident - contradicted him again as he told the artist what really happened.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pioneer on 26 August, 2012, 01:48:54 AM
Just wall mounted my tv and hooked it up to the router so have full smart TV capabilities.... Watched the Dredd trailer about ten times today! (http://img.tapatalk.com/bcdeddfe-728a-8133.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 26 August, 2012, 08:18:11 AM
Frightfest footage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uheg-2kOrno&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uheg-2kOrno&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 26 August, 2012, 08:20:45 AM
And also Check SFX on the interweb for the lastest Dredd 3D review, a glowing one at that too! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 26 August, 2012, 09:05:47 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 August, 2012, 09:24:37 PM
I've seen the bods at Bleeding Cool engineer conflicts where there's been none or little before, to the point where those involved intervened.

Yeah it seems to me that too much was read into what looks like an impromptu interview.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 26 August, 2012, 09:18:10 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 25 August, 2012, 09:12:38 PM
In Goaty's Hi Res pic I'm sure I can see a face and shoulders of someone. It's on the bottom left hand side of the picture on the building with 3 vertical vents or chimneys. There's some purply graffiti above it and the head has a brightish yellow colour surrounding it.

It reminds me of Ezquerra style but who it is I've no idea who it is.

I thought that was what Goaty referred to as Mean Machine....I was looking at it yesterday wondering if I was seeing a dial on that forehead...or just light.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 August, 2012, 06:01:50 PM
As on train back home, I was in London for weekend, but all over Zone 1, there is none posters of Dredd 3D. I got gut feelings that they kept it till tomorrow or end of this week as notice many films posters FOR this week!
But it been amazing everywhere in GB!

Also underground got motion posters, don't think the Dredd motion poster would be good idea? With firing Lawsgiver at you! Haha! Not long till sept 7th!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 26 August, 2012, 06:19:01 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 26 August, 2012, 09:18:10 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 25 August, 2012, 09:12:38 PM
In Goaty's Hi Res pic I'm sure I can see a face and shoulders of someone. It's on the bottom left hand side of the picture on the building with 3 vertical vents or chimneys. There's some purply graffiti above it and the head has a brightish yellow colour surrounding it.

It reminds me of Ezquerra style but who it is I've no idea who it is.

I thought that was what Goaty referred to as Mean Machine....I was looking at it yesterday wondering if I was seeing a dial on that forehead...or just light.

I don't think it's Mean Machine. Looks kind of skeletal to me. Not really clear enough to tell.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zanti Misfit on 26 August, 2012, 06:52:35 PM
There's quite a few Dredd billboard posters around North London - Muswell Hill, Kentish Town, High Barnet, but Mrs Misfit & me have so far seen nowt on the Underground or centrally located.

Yesterday we paid a trip Camden Town's 'Megacity Comics'  and there we saw no Dredd posters or tie-ins or promotions, displays, offers, sales, etc. Call me naive, but you'd think with the film less than two weeks away, they'd do something (especially a shop with a name like theirs! :o).

Fair do's to them though, maybe they have something planned for nearer the 7th (and they do have a nice selection of old progs :D).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 26 August, 2012, 07:39:30 PM
Dredd 3D is the sponsor for the next WWE pay per view - Night of Champions. Should help with the publicity in the States.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 August, 2012, 07:53:23 PM
Quote from: Tim Tailz on 26 August, 2012, 07:39:30 PM
Dredd 3D is the sponsor for the next WWE pay per view - Night of Champions. Should help with the publicity in the States.

Seems like a strange place to advertise. Yeah a lot of people will see it, but won't most of them be kids?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 26 August, 2012, 08:04:43 PM
Well. One's a violent make-believe that has actors dressed in costume fighting each other. The other is the Dredd film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 26 August, 2012, 09:06:50 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 August, 2012, 07:53:23 PM
Quote from: Tim Tailz on 26 August, 2012, 07:39:30 PM
Dredd 3D is the sponsor for the next WWE pay per view - Night of Champions. Should help with the publicity in the States.

Seems like a strange place to advertise. Yeah a lot of people will see it, but won't most of them be kids?

Kids can still see an R in the States, they just have to be accompanied by an adult.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: wadew1 on 26 August, 2012, 09:36:41 PM
74% of their audience is aged 21 or older
http://corporate.wwe.com/company/overview.jsp
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 26 August, 2012, 09:53:36 PM
Wow.
Well that's good news I suppose in terms of marketing/target-audience/demographic e.t.c., but still.
Wow.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 26 August, 2012, 10:01:39 PM
If anyone wants to see the short (about 10 seconds long) Night of Champions/Dredd 3D promo, then its at 15:25 on this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncI6HyYEIn4
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 26 August, 2012, 11:01:30 PM
Not really a short more of a subliminal flash of the Dredd 3d logo and film date.  Clever marketing considering the films small PR budget.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 August, 2012, 11:18:19 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 24 August, 2012, 07:50:25 PM
Paul Leonard-Morgan's DREDD 3D score download & CD September 3rd & 10th respectively.

Preview all tracks here:

http://soundcloud.com/metropolis-movie-music/sets/paul-leonard-morgan-dredd/

That soundtrack is fucking badass!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 August, 2012, 11:37:16 PM
Sorry if it's old news, but nice gifs;

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5zfxb6PGr1rtk4rzo1_500.gif)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5zidkdYaz1rtk4rzo1_500.gif)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff362/kirilllove/Gifs/tumblr_m5zn4mXm341rtk4rzo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 26 August, 2012, 11:52:51 PM
Having not seen the film, the Lawmaster's definitely my joint-third favourite character so far, along with the Lawgiver.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 27 August, 2012, 12:00:59 AM
Quote from: Stan on 26 August, 2012, 11:52:51 PM
Having not seen the film, the Lawmaster's definitely my joint-third favourite character so far, along with the Lawgiver.


That Lawmaster is certainly full of fat tyred badarsery!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 27 August, 2012, 03:12:35 AM
Description for Dredd's worldwide premiere screening at the Toronto International Film Festival in early September.

http://www.indiewire.com/article/tiff-list-2012-an-updated-list-of-all-films-at-the-toronto-international-film-festival?page=4#articleHeaderPanel (http://www.indiewire.com/article/tiff-list-2012-an-updated-list-of-all-films-at-the-toronto-international-film-festival?page=4#articleHeaderPanel)
"Dredd Pete Travis, USA/United Kingdom/India World Premiere
The endlessly inventive mind of writer Alex Garland (28 Days Later) and director Pete Travis bring the iconic masked police officer Dredd to life in this futuristic neo-noir action film. Filmed in 3D with stunning slow-motion photography sequences, the film returns the celebrated comic book anti-hero to his dark, violent and visceral roots. Starring Karl Urban, Olivia Thirlby and Lena Headey."

:P

Going to try and score a ticket to this, though it seems rather unlikely! All pre-tickets for TIFF sold out before I even landed in the country  :-\ Will have to wake up early next Sunday and give it a try!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 27 August, 2012, 03:14:48 AM
EDIT: http://tiff.net/filmsandschedules/tiff/2012/dredd (http://tiff.net/filmsandschedules/tiff/2012/dredd)

Ooh there are two screenings!

Pete Travis has an amazing looking head in that photo. Also: great to see the Minty graffiti shot being used in so much of the film's promotion!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 27 August, 2012, 04:09:06 AM
I notice the TIFF website details on Dredd lists the running time as 95 minutes, has that been officially confirmed or just an approximate estimate?  Once it's rated by the BBFC, we'll get the exact minutes-and-seconds running time on their website, I guess...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 27 August, 2012, 04:31:12 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 27 August, 2012, 04:09:06 AM
I notice the TIFF website details on Dredd lists the running time as 95 minutes, has that been officially confirmed or just an approximate estimate?  Once it's rated by the BBFC, we'll get the exact minutes-and-seconds running time on their website, I guess...

I presume those details are all correct as regards the North American release. Rating: 18A  :o :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 27 August, 2012, 04:49:14 AM
(http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/6697/imag0815n.jpg)

A hastily taken photo on a very sunny day in one of Toronto's biggest cinemas (there was also a widescreen poster on the other side of the hall). Pretty drokkin' cool
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 27 August, 2012, 06:00:15 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 August, 2012, 11:18:19 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 24 August, 2012, 07:50:25 PM
Paul Leonard-Morgan's DREDD 3D score download & CD September 3rd & 10th respectively.

Preview all tracks here:

http://soundcloud.com/metropolis-movie-music/sets/paul-leonard-morgan-dredd/

That soundtrack is fucking badass!

I like.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 27 August, 2012, 07:26:45 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 27 August, 2012, 03:14:48 AM
EDIT: http://tiff.net/filmsandschedules/tiff/2012/dredd (http://tiff.net/filmsandschedules/tiff/2012/dredd)
Pete Travis has an amazing looking head in that photo. Also: great to see the Minty graffiti shot being used in so much of the film's promotion!

Looks like Thrax.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 27 August, 2012, 08:10:03 AM
Quote from: bikini kill on 27 August, 2012, 07:26:45 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 27 August, 2012, 03:14:48 AM
EDIT: http://tiff.net/filmsandschedules/tiff/2012/dredd (http://tiff.net/filmsandschedules/tiff/2012/dredd)
Pete Travis has an amazing looking head in that photo. Also: great to see the Minty graffiti shot being used in so much of the film's promotion!

Looks like Thrax.

(http://media.tiff.net/contents/stills/dredd_dir.jpg)   (http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/t/thraxsm.jpg)

Hmmmm...!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 27 August, 2012, 10:51:22 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 27 August, 2012, 04:09:06 AM
I notice the TIFF website details on Dredd lists the running time as 95 minutes, has that been officially confirmed or just an approximate estimate?  Once it's rated by the BBFC, we'll get the exact minutes-and-seconds running time on their website, I guess...

Variety (http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117947892/) listed it as 96 minutes after the comic-con showing. Empire Cinemas (http://www.empirecinemas.co.uk/index.php?page=synopsis&filmid=3101) also list it as 96 mins, but Lionsgate's publicity page (http://www.lionsgatepublicity.com/epk/dredd/) has it as 98 mins.

One of these is probably the official time, and within a minute of the actual time.

A few weeks ago TIFF claimed their showing would be the world premiere, but they no longer do.
I've heard of press screenings in Australia, New Zealand, Germany, California (I think), and a couple in London over the past month or so, and there's the screening on Thursday, but the first before a paying audience may turn out to be in Toronto unless the UK, Ireland or Spain gets a midnight showing on the 6th.

The current front runner for first UK showing is Cineworld Shaftesbury Avenue (http://www.cineworld.co.uk/films/5473) with 11:50 am on the 7th, which will proably be replicated across the chain.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 27 August, 2012, 12:26:21 PM
Hey Up! Dredd 3D people, he's got his helmet off in that middle .Gif a few posts back! . . .







;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 27 August, 2012, 12:58:24 PM
Snippets of the DREDD soundtrack here.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=66350 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=66350)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 27 August, 2012, 02:03:18 PM
Haven't been here for a while, so I might have missed it but has anyone deciphered the ammo types on Dredd's Lawgiver? In the trailer close-up it says:

HIGH EX                                SEM
D:0.0 | 25ap | 25in | 25he | 50fmi

With "25he" highlighted I guess that's High Explosive. D = Distance (or is it another "0"?), in = Incendiary, ap = armor piercing? What is fmi? Or fm?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 27 August, 2012, 02:09:59 PM
Quote from: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 27 August, 2012, 12:58:24 PM
Snippets of the DREDD soundtrack here.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=66350 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=66350)

Thanks for the link. Soundtrack is spot on!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 27 August, 2012, 02:18:58 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 27 August, 2012, 10:51:22 AM


Variety (http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117947892/) listed it as 96 minutes after the comic-con showing. Empire Cinemas (http://www.empirecinemas.co.uk/index.php?page=synopsis&filmid=3101) also list it as 96 mins, but Lionsgate's publicity page (http://www.lionsgatepublicity.com/epk/dredd/) has it as 98 mins.

I presume that the longer times are US times, i.e. lower frame rate.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 27 August, 2012, 02:23:27 PM
Quote from: HunterZolomon on 27 August, 2012, 02:03:18 PM
With "25he" highlighted I guess that's High Explosive. D = Distance (or is it another "0"?), in = Incendiary, ap = armor piercing? What is fmi? Or fm?

according to MVK, who designed the gun, it's
ap - armor piercing
in - incendiary
he - hi-ex
fmj - full metal jacket

It is a "D" and is for distance.

@A.Cow
Theatrical digital projection is standard at 24fps surely?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 27 August, 2012, 02:34:38 PM
Yes. Speedup only applies to DVDs and broadcast where the change from 24 to 25 decreases running time and slightly alters the pitch of the sound,

Film will generally be 24fps globally, apart from new tech like the 48fps system used by the Hobbit.

UK film sourced Blu-rays will generally be 24fps as well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Durendal on 27 August, 2012, 03:23:28 PM
Doesn't appear to be scheduled for 3D screenings at my local cinema
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 27 August, 2012, 03:35:18 PM
I wouldn't worry about it.

If you google Odeon Dredd 3D the only cinema which has it listed is Leicester.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 27 August, 2012, 04:01:13 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 27 August, 2012, 08:10:03 AM
Quote from: bikini kill on 27 August, 2012, 07:26:45 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 27 August, 2012, 03:14:48 AM
EDIT: http://tiff.net/filmsandschedules/tiff/2012/dredd (http://tiff.net/filmsandschedules/tiff/2012/dredd)
Pete Travis has an amazing looking head in that photo. Also: great to see the Minty graffiti shot being used in so much of the film's promotion!

Looks like Thrax.

I'm thinking a bit more Middenface than Thrax...
(http://media.tiff.net/contents/stills/dredd_dir.jpg)   (http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/t/thraxsm.jpg)

Hmmmm...!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 27 August, 2012, 04:58:28 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 27 August, 2012, 02:34:38 PM
Yes. Speedup only applies to DVDs and broadcast where the change from 24 to 25 decreases running time and slightly alters the pitch of the sound,

Film will generally be 24fps globally, apart from new tech like the 48fps system used by the Hobbit.

UK film sourced Blu-rays will generally be 24fps as well.

Geek.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 27 August, 2012, 05:35:14 PM
I think you'll find it's nerd...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MattJW on 27 August, 2012, 05:54:53 PM
Liking the soundtrack snippets. Very Nine Inch Nails. Should complement the bloody action very nicely.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 27 August, 2012, 06:39:13 PM
When is the red carpet premiere?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 27 August, 2012, 06:54:36 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 27 August, 2012, 05:35:14 PM
I think you'll find it's nerd...

I do apologise. Personally I'm fine with both.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 27 August, 2012, 06:56:50 PM
Just seen two giant Dredd billboards on the East Lancs Road coming out of Liverpool towards Manchester

Shit just got real  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 27 August, 2012, 07:42:25 PM
Two massive billboards have also appeared in Salisbury, facing each other at a junction, so that you see one of them whatever junction you come from. The 6 foot red lettering on black background looks awesome. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 27 August, 2012, 09:23:30 PM
My current beau took a major detour home today, so she could show me the only Dredd billboard in Cardiff. It's on the Ely roundabout. She said previously it was the cityscape, but it has since changed to Dredd standing in front if the burning blocks.  I was like an excited puppy as we drove past!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 27 August, 2012, 09:54:09 PM
Quote from: Stan on 27 August, 2012, 06:54:36 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 27 August, 2012, 05:35:14 PM
I think you'll find it's nerd...

I do apologise. Personally I'm fine with both.

Me too. All it means to me is I care... ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 27 August, 2012, 10:46:13 PM
Saw two more billboards today, On a round trip to Homebase. I involuntarily have to point at them and say something every time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 August, 2012, 10:51:15 PM
Not long to go...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 August, 2012, 12:00:49 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 27 August, 2012, 10:51:15 PM
Not long to go...

I think this coming week is going to feel longer then the past year.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 August, 2012, 12:04:49 AM
Also, have noticed the likes on the facebook page are properly flying up now. Remember until quite recently it seemed to slow down around 50,000, now it is at 66,000.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 28 August, 2012, 12:07:01 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 August, 2012, 12:00:49 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 27 August, 2012, 10:51:15 PM
Not long to go...
I think this coming week is going to feel longer then the past year.
Yup: the Slo-Mo is really starting to kick in...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 August, 2012, 12:09:41 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 28 August, 2012, 12:07:01 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 August, 2012, 12:00:49 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 27 August, 2012, 10:51:15 PM
Not long to go...
I think this coming week is going to feel longer then the past year.
Yup: the Slo-Mo is really starting to kick in...

Haha :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 28 August, 2012, 12:40:50 AM
Worth watching the trailer here as it's pretty good quality especially if you download the largest HD version:
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/dredd/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 August, 2012, 08:33:15 AM
that's nice DREDD photo.

(http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx245/karla2_03/Captures/jaimie%20r/caesar/dc2k/dck2/dbw1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 28 August, 2012, 09:53:14 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 27 August, 2012, 03:35:18 PM
I wouldn't worry about it.

If you google Odeon Dredd 3D the only cinema which has it listed is Leicester.
And that is a dirty shit hole of a cinema. Last time I was there the staff didn't bother cleaning it up from the last viewing.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 August, 2012, 12:54:48 PM
Postie just delivered a bit of Dredd merch, a call sheet for Peach Trees. This is for one of the shoots in London last year.

I just checked my shift diary and at one stage I drove past the location and was parked up doing nothing less than a mile away :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 28 August, 2012, 01:04:17 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 28 August, 2012, 09:53:14 AM
... a dirty shit hole of a cinema. Last time I was there the staff didn't bother cleaning it up from the last viewing...
D'you know?--I've never understood why don't people clean up after themselves,-- or why people feel they have to guzzle and gurgle their way through each motion picture...

That really is a nice mean'n'moody Black & White shot there your Goatiness.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 28 August, 2012, 01:30:28 PM
New hires pics from the photoshoot, with nice clear bike shot.

http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/post.php?p=6309#6309

(http://uaimage.com/t/2257716_2812e437.jpg)(http://uaimage.com/t/2257715_fe7ec74f.jpg)(http://uaimage.com/t/2257714_f6d2233e.jpg) (http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/post.php?p=6309#6309)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 28 August, 2012, 02:41:40 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 27 August, 2012, 09:23:30 PM
My current beau took a major detour home today, so she could show me the only Dredd billboard in Cardiff. It's on the Ely roundabout. She said previously it was the cityscape, but it has since changed to Dredd standing in front if the burning blocks.  I was like an excited puppy as we drove past!
You sure it was the burning blocks and not just the scenery of Ely behind the poster ? I'd not seen any
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 August, 2012, 03:10:22 PM
I was screening some tweets about Dredd, but some mentions about Dredd 3D press screening in US today?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: coolyazz on 28 August, 2012, 03:18:06 PM
I'm seeing all these great full length studio shots of Karl in his uniform.  But where's all the shots of Olivia?  I'd love to use a clear shot of her as a wallpaper!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 28 August, 2012, 04:18:22 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 28 August, 2012, 01:30:28 PM
New hires pics from the photoshoot, with nice clear bike shot.

http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/post.php?p=6309#6309

(http://uaimage.com/t/2257716_2812e437.jpg)(http://uaimage.com/t/2257715_fe7ec74f.jpg)(http://uaimage.com/t/2257714_f6d2233e.jpg) (http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/post.php?p=6309#6309)
Great bike pic,love the little Judge badge on the fairing and is that a big lock knife on Dredds belt,right hand side.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 28 August, 2012, 04:44:28 PM
No clear shots of Thirlby, but these stills are fairly recent and pretty sharp.

(http://thumbnails61.imagebam.com/20380/0fc4bc203798965.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/0fc4bc203798965) (http://thumbnails84.imagebam.com/20315/c61ebe203148089.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/c61ebe203148089)

@DanboJohnJ
Could well be, it's certainly something that hasn't been seen clearly before. Good catch.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 28 August, 2012, 06:14:25 PM
Be cool if we get Dredd having a bit of a knife fight,last time I saw one was in Commando with Arnie,not counting the one between two tramps in Amsterdam I witnessed yeas ago.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 28 August, 2012, 07:21:20 PM
Nah, knife on knife is boring, if there's one person that can bring a knife to a gunfight and win, it's Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 28 August, 2012, 08:01:36 PM
Those pics of Dredd and the Lawmaster are top draw cheers CN.






V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 August, 2012, 08:55:24 PM
Nice Promo for Dredd 3D?

It's designed by me! Sorry I used 21st Sept US date.

(http://i.imgur.com/JFrgL.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 28 August, 2012, 09:07:46 PM
Just put your image up on facebook Goaty.
Remember spread the word.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 28 August, 2012, 09:37:36 PM
Holy crap Goaty, that's one bloodthirsty Dredd advert!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 August, 2012, 10:06:54 PM
Ouch!

On another note, saw my first Dredd poster in physical form today. It was so beautiful. I must try get one from the cinema, even if I have to steal it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 August, 2012, 11:18:58 PM
I passed into the L1 Odeon just to check if they had anything up but nadda. It's really difficult leaving a nice popcorn-smelling cinema without actually catching a film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 August, 2012, 11:57:43 PM
Though they've changed it to Dredd 3D..
http://www.odeon.co.uk/fanatic/film_info/m100431/Dredd_3D/

You'd think there'd be a rating by now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 August, 2012, 08:39:49 AM
Not long to go, creeps!

I wonder if this thread got to 500 pages when we finally watch it? lol
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 29 August, 2012, 08:43:25 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 29 August, 2012, 08:39:49 AM
Not long to go, creeps!

I wonder if this thread got to 500 pages when we finally watch it? lol

Ha, I would imagine so! This thread is almost a year old now as well, well done Goaty.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 August, 2012, 09:18:33 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 29 August, 2012, 08:39:49 AM
Not long to go, creeps!

I've invited my sis along since she's a cop and can tell me if the whole thing is scientifically accurate. Plus I don't wanna ago alone, like with Batman Begins. I need better quality friends really.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 29 August, 2012, 10:53:57 AM
BBFC have rated it.
It's an 18, as expected.

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/BFF289356/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 29 August, 2012, 06:06:46 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 29 August, 2012, 10:53:57 AM
BBFC have rated it.
It's an 18, as expected.

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/BFF289356/

Excellent!  Apart from anything else, I'm sick to death of going to 12 rated films only to have to endure young children running about the place.  There'll be no danger of the cinema being used as a creche for this film!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 29 August, 2012, 06:18:36 PM
Just lots of violence craving hoodie chavtastic gangs on drugs using their mobile phones  and seeing  who can throw the most popcorn....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 29 August, 2012, 06:22:33 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 29 August, 2012, 06:18:36 PM
Just lots of violence craving hoodie chavtastic gangs on drugs using their mobile phones  and seeing  who can throw the most popcorn....

Aw, don't ruin it for me Danbo!  I have this dream that one day I'll go to the cinema and everyone will be so involved in the film that there will be no chatter, no phones going off, and no one kicking the back of my chair!  I'm a fantasist, I know...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 29 August, 2012, 06:59:58 PM
(http://oi47.tinypic.com/14nju2p.jpg)

Anyone else tried the cover-maker on FB?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 29 August, 2012, 07:33:28 PM
Quote from: The Bissler on 29 August, 2012, 06:22:33 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 29 August, 2012, 06:18:36 PM
Just lots of violence craving hoodie chavtastic gangs on drugs using their mobile phones  and seeing  who can throw the most popcorn....

Aw, don't ruin it for me Danbo!  I have this dream that one day I'll go to the cinema and everyone will be so involved in the film that there will be no chatter, no phones going off, and no one kicking the back of my chair!  I'm a fantasist, I know...
LOL only messing
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 29 August, 2012, 07:48:08 PM
Quote from: Borntohula on 29 August, 2012, 06:59:58 PM
(http://oi47.tinypic.com/14nju2p.jpg)

Anyone else tried the cover-maker on FB?

V. nice cover Borntohula! . . . I'll give that a whirl on FB now :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 29 August, 2012, 09:06:48 PM
New footage on the official site
check the VIDEOS section

http://www.dreddthemovie.com/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 29 August, 2012, 09:08:57 PM
Actually there's new footage played for each selection from the nav bar.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 August, 2012, 09:11:59 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 29 August, 2012, 09:06:48 PM
New footage on the official site
check the VIDEOS section

http://www.dreddthemovie.com/

strangest, it still black!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 August, 2012, 09:20:29 PM
I saw the bit where Dredd is being chased by 50 cal tracer fire, BRILLIANT!

He starts off at Judge Minty and runs towards Anderson!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 August, 2012, 09:21:11 PM
I like the over-shoulder room blitz.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 29 August, 2012, 09:30:54 PM
Trying not to spoil too much new footage before tomorrow...

Its difficult.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 August, 2012, 09:33:00 PM
Joe that scene is spot on. [spoiler]Superior firepower, slow advance, no panic, smooth mag change[/spoiler] I can't wait :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 29 August, 2012, 09:33:58 PM
Last video is not available in this country.





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jay jay on 29 August, 2012, 09:43:00 PM
Where is the new footage? I'm not seeing anything new in the video section.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 August, 2012, 09:43:47 PM
Footage appears on the page as a washed-out background when you click the links.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 29 August, 2012, 09:46:42 PM
Is it weird that I'm reading that new Matt Smith Dredd ebook and when I'm picturing the scenes in my head Dredd has the movie uniform on and it's Urban's voice I'm hearing?

I haven't even seen the movie yet but Urban already seems to just be Dredd to me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jay jay on 29 August, 2012, 09:50:39 PM
Oh okay now I see it, thanks Joe. Too bad there is no way to isolate the footage and put in youtube.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 29 August, 2012, 09:53:21 PM
That is some nice footage! You lucky bastards that get watch it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 29 August, 2012, 10:33:49 PM
Now thats awesome  :o  stuff, . . . explosive new scenes intermingled with a kickass designed website!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 29 August, 2012, 11:06:23 PM
New website looks good, surprised at how different it is from the last one though, I would have thought they'd planned that in advance...
Finally saw my 1st billboard in Bristol yesterday

(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj605/Sharedvortex101/A4BathRd.jpg)

On the A4 as you head from Temple Meads towards Bath, woke the wife up to take the photo.

Not long to go now, even for us that have to wait until general release.
As for all those going tomorrow, have fun!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 30 August, 2012, 01:26:33 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 29 August, 2012, 10:53:57 AM
BBFC have rated it.
It's an 18, as expected.
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/BFF289356/

So it is a mere 95 minutes then, man, that's a tight running time, short but sweet I guess...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 30 August, 2012, 04:15:33 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 30 August, 2012, 01:26:33 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 29 August, 2012, 10:53:57 AM
BBFC have rated it.
It's an 18, as expected.
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/BFF289356/

So it is a mere 95 minutes then, man, that's a tight running time, short but sweet I guess...

Suits me fine. I'm tired of action films hitting the 2 1/2 hour mark to be honest. Short and sweet, that's what I likes!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 30 August, 2012, 06:18:41 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 30 August, 2012, 01:26:33 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 29 August, 2012, 10:53:57 AM
BBFC have rated it.
It's an 18, as expected.
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/BFF289356/

So it is a mere 95 minutes then, man, that's a tight running time, short but sweet I guess...

You won't care.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 30 August, 2012, 06:33:04 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 30 August, 2012, 06:18:41 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 30 August, 2012, 01:26:33 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 29 August, 2012, 10:53:57 AM
BBFC have rated it.
It's an 18, as expected.
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/BFF289356/
So it is a mere 95 minutes then, man, that's a tight running time, short but sweet I guess...
You won't care.

Considering you've actually seen the film, blackmocco dude, I'll take your word to the bank on that one, good enough for me :thumbsup:...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 30 August, 2012, 07:12:11 AM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 29 August, 2012, 09:46:42 PM
Is it weird that I'm reading that new Matt Smith Dredd ebook and when I'm picturing the scenes in my head Dredd has the movie uniform on and it's Urban's voice I'm hearing?

I haven't even seen the movie yet but Urban already seems to just be Dredd to me.

I don't think they could have cast it better. I've been re-reading and catching up on what I missed in the Dredd series over the years and I've been surprised by how close Urban gets it to certain panels I've seen now and again. But the strangest thing was one very early prog from the year 1980 or so. There was an ad that had an 1 inch high Dredd on one side of the page and the same size image of Boba Fett on the other side of the same page. When I turned the page I saw them both for a second as one image. My eye darted from one to the other very quickly and what I thought I saw was the Urban version. My eyes were playing tricks...still.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 August, 2012, 10:13:55 AM
More new billboards everywhere!

D-Day, creeps!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 30 August, 2012, 10:59:47 AM
No times listed on Cardiff Cineworld, but at least there's a good preview and trailer attached:

http://www.cineworld.co.uk/films/5473
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 30 August, 2012, 12:14:25 PM
Karl Urban on Sky News Sunrise show this morning.
Replay here:

http://news.sky.com/story/978741/new-judge-dredd-film-harder-and-grittier
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 30 August, 2012, 12:15:09 PM
Oh, with new clip from film too!
really need an edit function!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 30 August, 2012, 12:23:42 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 30 August, 2012, 12:14:25 PM
Karl Urban on Sky News Sunrise show this morning.
Replay here:

http://news.sky.com/story/978741/new-judge-dredd-film-harder-and-grittier

Nice new clip too!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 30 August, 2012, 01:45:52 PM
I hope they release all clips where someone is speaking through those speakers online before hand. I had to watch the lockdown bit over and over to understand the bits where it is in a a big open space. Same with this one, dunno what he says in the middle bit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 30 August, 2012, 01:46:11 PM
Still bloody cool though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 30 August, 2012, 01:47:44 PM
Ah, think it was 'Just in case you've forgotten'  Once you know what it is you wonder how you couldn't tell.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 30 August, 2012, 02:41:54 PM
Two page spread in todays Shortlist

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/beekermanc/photo-22.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 30 August, 2012, 02:43:50 PM
Can't wait to see this in a theatre, the dead silence when tells the block that "Ma Ma is not the law. I am the law." haha!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 30 August, 2012, 03:11:13 PM
Just announced on virginmedia. Com via Facebook possible new Dredd clip?  Couldn't look at it to check as my mobile doesn't support the site content :-/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 30 August, 2012, 03:12:04 PM
its about 10 seconds long, Dredd saying 'I am the law'. A couple of seconds extra not in the trailer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 30 August, 2012, 03:21:24 PM
I'm not fussed about the new clip... seeing as I'M WATCHING THE BLOODY FILM IN 3 AND A HALF HOURS TIME!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 30 August, 2012, 03:22:44 PM
http://www.virginmedia.com/movies/trailers-clips/dredd-exclusive-clip-i-am-the-law/1791099622001/?filter=all#!/dredd-trailer/1705434136001
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 30 August, 2012, 03:23:42 PM
Bah,it's the same clip from Sky News!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 30 August, 2012, 04:30:04 PM
Quote from: radiator on 30 August, 2012, 03:21:24 PM
I'm not fussed about the new clip... seeing as I'M WATCHING THE BLOODY FILM IN 3 AND A HALF HOURS TIME!!!

Basta!! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 August, 2012, 05:25:57 PM
Karl Urban web chat tomorrow

http://movies.uk.msn.com/features/karl-urban-aka-dredd-3d-webchat-alert (http://movies.uk.msn.com/features/karl-urban-aka-dredd-3d-webchat-alert)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 30 August, 2012, 08:26:50 PM
I might stay off this forum for the next week if a load of you are watching it tonight

Don't want any more opinions..just want to see it  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 August, 2012, 09:08:21 PM
Bloody brilliant film!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 30 August, 2012, 09:11:52 PM
More info please...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 30 August, 2012, 09:12:54 PM
You watched it already?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 August, 2012, 09:56:42 PM
Sorry to kept it stort as on my phone and having drinks with Alex and the legend himself, JW!

It really great and enjoyable film! Nice opening with great Dredd title intro!

It very violence and bloody! All looks real and most was special effect in old fashionable, as you saw shooting with Blood; that only CGI.

Judge uniforms is perfect!

Actions is really good and interesting, Dredd is the hard bastard!

Anderson is very good and PSI was smart useful!

Ma-Ma is classic villain!

I do enjoy it!

My Goaty was there for 5 seconds which was awesome!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 30 August, 2012, 10:01:45 PM
Gets to see the film a week early, plus a 5 second namecheck easter egg, and after show drinks too!
On top of that your thread gets to 500 pages.

...envy, I believe it's called.

Ah well  :|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 30 August, 2012, 10:18:59 PM
Result happiness!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 August, 2012, 10:42:35 PM
Quote from: Stu101 on 30 August, 2012, 10:01:45 PM
Gets to see the film a week early, plus a 5 second namecheck easter egg, and after show drinks too!
On top of that your thread gets to 500 pages.

...envy, I believe it's called.

Ah well  :|


Its good though, glad you all enjoyed it ya lucky bastiches! I gotta wait me a week. Still better a week than another 35 years. :)
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Martin Jameson on 30 August, 2012, 10:56:39 PM
Great film, thoroughly enjoyed it. Thought the actors nailed their characters. Very impressed with Olivia Thirlby as Anderson. Can't imagine too many people being disappointed with this film.

Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk 2
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 30 August, 2012, 11:50:23 PM
First Impressions

Urban nailed the character. At no time did I not believe I was watching the real Judge Dredd. The voice and delivery seemed natural.

The Lawmaster chase scene is better than the impression you get from clips and Trailers. Mopads and H Wagons could still exist in this version of MC1 given a budget.

Overall The film is even dirtier and grittier than I  expected.

It was great!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 31 August, 2012, 12:11:35 AM
For all who have just seen the film could you kindly keep your musings to the thread thats been created. Thank you.
If not then spoiler tag the whole message.





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 31 August, 2012, 12:27:14 AM
Yep

Realised I posted in the wrong thread but it was too late... No spoilers though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 31 August, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
MSN's Live webchat with Karl Urban today at 9:50.
http://movies.uk.msn.com/features/karl-urban-aka-dredd-3d-webchat-alert
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 31 August, 2012, 02:44:23 PM
10 reviews for Dredd now up on Rotten Tomatoes, and it's still 100% fresh.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 31 August, 2012, 02:59:33 PM
Coincidentally, some parts of Toxteth still look like Meg-One.

(http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv292/SWATteamed/Comics/2000AD/GEDC0125b.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 August, 2012, 03:12:24 PM
Awesome as wait long bus journey to village far in North East, I was browe iPad, I closed 2000AD online by mistake so I open one and go to the website,

It got new front with big countdown of six days to go! Same as "They Are Coming"

Awesome!

When does this thread get to 500pages??? When it did, I will have a strongest shooter!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 31 August, 2012, 03:13:45 PM
Perhaps this post will put it to 500?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 31 August, 2012, 03:14:05 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 August, 2012, 03:15:46 PM
I'm watching the trailer and clips again to relieve last night :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 31 August, 2012, 03:28:52 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 August, 2012, 03:15:46 PM
I'm watching the trailer and clips again to relieve last night :thumbsup:

Make sure your drinks are inside by 10pm then.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 August, 2012, 03:52:02 PM
Welcome to London :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 31 August, 2012, 03:53:09 PM
New clip from MTV:

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1692972/dredd-exclusive-clip.jhtml
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 31 August, 2012, 03:57:37 PM
Unavailable from our location   :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 August, 2012, 04:02:05 PM
Move ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 31 August, 2012, 04:40:56 PM
Only one week to go!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 August, 2012, 04:44:27 PM
I can't wait, again!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 31 August, 2012, 05:38:37 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 August, 2012, 04:44:27 PM
I can't wait, again!

Same here. I wanna go see it again..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 31 August, 2012, 05:43:39 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 31 August, 2012, 05:38:37 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 August, 2012, 04:44:27 PM
I can't wait, again!
Same here. I wanna go see it again..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 31 August, 2012, 05:44:53 PM
FTFY ^
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 31 August, 2012, 05:56:44 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 31 August, 2012, 03:57:37 PM
Unavailable from our location   :(

Try spotflux, that will circumvent it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 31 August, 2012, 06:02:30 PM
Is it the same featurette we've seen with interviews with Alex Garland etc. ? .....What's spotflux? :-*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 31 August, 2012, 06:16:01 PM
I asked the girl at the front of the cinema to let you in as you were there , Supersurfer and although they were slightly overbooked she said she would see what she could do. Did you get in?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 31 August, 2012, 06:30:49 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 31 August, 2012, 06:16:01 PM
I asked the girl at the front of the cinema to let you in as you were there , Supersurfer and although they were slightly overbooked she said she would see what she could do. Did you get in?
Thanks for trying strontium71. One of the women with the guest list said "if there is no show, it's yours", then one of the others later on said it was looking tight. Come the end, she said they were 20 people over so was not possible.

Never mind, I knew it was a long shot, I tried and it was good meeting loads of boarders for the first time: Goaty, Joe Soap, WOD, Richmond, Crave Noir, Radiator, Cyclopz and many more. I saw Karl Urban and stood next to Alex Garland as he was chatting to the Minty crew.

Oh, and I was sitting next to John Wagner in the pub. I was rather star struck but I showed him some of my drawings and he was very complimentary which made my evening.

As for the other Souther boarders – I will have the misfortune of seeing some of them tomorrow.  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 31 August, 2012, 07:27:19 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 31 August, 2012, 06:02:30 PM
Is it the same featurette we've seen with interviews with Alex Garland etc. ? .....What's spotflux? :-*

Nope. A few of the same soundbites but plenty of new footage.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 31 August, 2012, 07:45:00 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 31 August, 2012, 07:27:19 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 31 August, 2012, 06:02:30 PM
Is it the same featurette we've seen with interviews with Alex Garland etc. ? .....What's spotflux? :-*

Nope. A few of the same soundbites but plenty of new footage.

Much thanks Blackmocco!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 August, 2012, 07:49:25 PM
Anyone check IGNUK Facebook?

Karl Urban really nice bloke playing for a laugh!

(http://i.imgur.com/FH1Sq.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 31 August, 2012, 07:56:01 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 31 August, 2012, 07:49:25 PM
Anyone check IGNUK Facebook?

Karl Urban really nice bloke playing for a laugh!

(http://i.imgur.com/FH1Sq.jpg)

Aww. Wish they'd printed off a 100 of those for last night and got a pic of the audience wearing them.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 31 August, 2012, 08:03:19 PM
They missed a promotional trick by not making a limited number of helmets with 3d glasses built into the visor, I reckon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 31 August, 2012, 08:05:07 PM
How's the language in the film? They say "Drokk" or "Grud"?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 31 August, 2012, 08:12:49 PM
[spoiler]No Drokks or Gruds said, but someone was wearing clothing with Drokk on it.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 31 August, 2012, 08:22:50 PM
Thanks Steve. That'll do quite well, at least it's there so to say :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 31 August, 2012, 08:40:43 PM
There are plenty of [spoiler]fucks[/spoiler] and [spoiler]shits[/spoiler] in it though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 31 August, 2012, 08:50:30 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 31 August, 2012, 08:03:19 PM
They missed a promotional trick by not making a limited number of helmets with 3d glasses built into the visor, I reckon.

Something for the sequel if it happens.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Martin Jameson on 31 August, 2012, 09:33:07 PM
Well that's two lifetime ambitions done this year - seeing Springsteen in concert and a decent Dredd film. If nothing else happens, I'm happy.

Also, that's the third time I've been in the same room as John Wagner, once at a 2000ad convention in the early 80's, a few years ago at Dreddcon in Oxford and last night. I still haven't plucked up the courage to say hello. One day maybe!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 31 August, 2012, 11:07:00 PM
5 pages already in the spoiler thread and I still haven't looked.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 31 August, 2012, 11:51:52 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 31 August, 2012, 11:07:00 PM
5 pages already in the spoiler thread and I still haven't looked.




V


Me either! No sir !  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 August, 2012, 11:56:55 PM
Dredd shoots first!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 01 September, 2012, 12:42:46 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 31 August, 2012, 11:51:52 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 31 August, 2012, 11:07:00 PM
5 pages already in the spoiler thread and I still haven't looked.




V

Me either! No sir !  ;)

Same here I will enjoy it next week :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 01 September, 2012, 03:12:23 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 31 August, 2012, 05:56:44 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 31 August, 2012, 03:57:37 PM
Unavailable from our location   :(
Try spotflux, that will circumvent it.

Anyone grab it and put it up so the rest of us can watch it in all it's zarjaz glory...?

Glad to hear the special screening went like gangbusters last night, hope y'all aren't suffering too badly from hangovers and nerd overload this morn', good to know that the 2000 A.D. folks went out of their way to hold such an event for fans, this adaptation is in good fantastic hands, let's hope Dredd does well enough to get that potential Origins  sequel that Alex Garland has mentioned recently...

Well, with Dredd's release now imminent, reviews uniformly glowing, and the knowledge that all trace of that 1995 debacle is about to be thoroughly washed away once and for all, the reasons for me joining this forum last year appear to be at an end, so I'll bid y'all a fair and warm adieu, it's been fun, informative, sometimes intense, but ALWAYS interesting, D-Day is now T-minus-7 days and counting, we've waited a long time for this (35 years to be exact), and it's been a long road, but we're finally here, and I sincerely hope everyone enjoys Dredd as much as you've been anticipating it, that it lives up to everyone's expectations, and that it's embraced enough by the audience at large to get a sequel(s), but that remains to be seen...

...see y'all in the funny pages, end transmission, court's adjourned ("I knew you'd say that!").

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 01 September, 2012, 08:29:42 AM
You'll be back  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 01 September, 2012, 08:40:22 AM
The IMDB Dredd forum's lone Russian member has come good with Youtubing that region-locked featurette. It contains some absolutely stunning new imagery (esp Lena Headey in the lift) and the live action version of my favourite Dredd image so far; Dredd blasting perps in a stairwell, shrouded in a green miasma:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vheaRRNEYUk&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vheaRRNEYUk&feature=youtu.be)


Warning, this featurette also contains some brief, mild scenes of Pete Travis, which some viewers may find disturbing. Don't have nightmares.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 September, 2012, 08:57:19 AM
Watching that brings Thursday evening flooding back. Those extra scenes are something else  :-X
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 01 September, 2012, 08:57:37 AM
Such a great video. Love it when he just walks away from napalming 3 floors to hell like if it was nothing haha.


By the way. Is the satire any good in the movie? Or is the spotlight more directed at Dredd being bad ass? Of all the comic book movies with their attempts at a meaning, I think a Dredd movie could be epic at it :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 01 September, 2012, 09:00:41 AM
Ohhh that was lush,love his little Basildon Bond roll and his methodical shooting whilst walking up stairs...excellent.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 01 September, 2012, 10:06:37 AM
Karl Urban's on Soccer am on Sky1 today 10am - noon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 01 September, 2012, 11:00:22 AM
This is doing my head in...no sign Dredd will be shown in this country...a trip to London may be in order.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 01 September, 2012, 11:11:26 AM
Quote from: bikini kill on 01 September, 2012, 08:40:22 AM
The IMDB Dredd forum's lone Russian member has come good with Youtubing that region-locked featurette. It contains some absolutely stunning new imagery (esp Lena Headey in the lift) and the live action version of my favourite Dredd image so far; Dredd blasting perps in a stairwell, shrouded in a green miasma:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vheaRRNEYUk&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vheaRRNEYUk&feature=youtu.be)


Warning, this featurette also contains some brief, mild scenes of Pete Travis, which some viewers may find disturbing. Don't have nightmares.

Ahh, yes - thats pretty good isnt it. Love Dredd knee-capping away, as he goes up the stairs!
Right, no more for me (ive said this before!), less than a week now, to go.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 01 September, 2012, 11:13:57 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 01 September, 2012, 10:06:37 AM
Karl Urban's on Soccer am on Sky1 today 10am - noon.

Not very "on the ball" at Sky, "Lord of the Rings and Star Trek actor Karl Urban". Keep up!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 01 September, 2012, 01:34:13 PM
Rest easy guys Karl Urban IS Dredd, he's nailed the part (very nice guy in person too).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 01 September, 2012, 03:23:50 PM
Noticed again in that featurette there is a bit where he doesn't sound like Dredd. "Your assesment starts now" Was it like that in the final film?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 01 September, 2012, 04:29:51 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 01 September, 2012, 03:23:50 PM
Noticed again in that featurette there is a bit where he doesn't sound like Dredd. "Your assesment starts now" Was it like that in the final film?

[spoiler]Some ADR seems to have been done after these featurettes were made. Its noticeable that his accent slips in the first featurette too, but it was fixed in the film.  [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 01 September, 2012, 04:48:46 PM
Really the more I think about it the more I'm looking forward to seeing the film again, I think it's one of those films that get even better with repeat viewings.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 01 September, 2012, 05:16:32 PM
Yep, definitely. Not least to catch all of the little background details and references I missed. Alex told me where to look for my name check but I was so engrossed in what was happening I missed it. In fact I think the only one I caught was the Minty graffiti!

It also hits that sweet spot of just over 90 minutes (perfect film length IMO) so is going to be one that gets a lot of repeat viewings.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 01 September, 2012, 05:55:22 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 31 August, 2012, 11:56:55 PM
Dredd shoots first!

LMAO nice one Gipsy (Wally Squad Judge Goaty)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 01 September, 2012, 08:04:19 PM
Am I the only one interesting in hearing a Mark Kermode review?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 01 September, 2012, 08:41:27 PM
Quote from: Stan on 01 September, 2012, 08:04:19 PM
Am I the only one interesting in hearing a Mark Kermode review?


Possibly ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 01 September, 2012, 08:42:44 PM
A mate just gave me a Dredd badge, supposedly they had them at Comicon. Very pleased.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 01 September, 2012, 11:08:56 PM
Quote from: Stan on 01 September, 2012, 08:04:19 PM
Am I the only one interesting in hearing a Mark Kermode review?

I'll be listening to the podcast next Friday to hear his opinion. I think he may like it, if not bemoan the lack of depth to the story (I'm now paraphrasing other reviews). He quite often picks up on films being too long, not this one though  :)
If he does give it a positive review I think it'll help...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 September, 2012, 01:59:26 AM
Well, I liked the film, so chances are he won't, the big ponce.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 02 September, 2012, 03:59:26 AM
I am currently waiting for my cinema website to let us book tickets. Once that happens I know it feel real. I am going opening night with my dad (he started reading 2000ad when it started, but he isn't update with computers.) Then I am gonna watch it again on a date. Then I am gonna watch it again with some freinds. Then I am gonna watch it again just so I can be thrown out for masturbating in the cinema. And I am gonna book all these tickets before I have even seen it.

Life has never been better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HdE on 02 September, 2012, 04:42:05 AM
WAAAAAAHHH!!! Just a few days to go!!!

I will be there on opening night, all excited like a little kid. CANNOT WAAAAIIIIITTT!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 02 September, 2012, 12:56:00 PM
Did anyone see this on Cam Kennedy?...sad news.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/celebrity/judge-dredd-artist-cam-kennedy-1297079
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 02 September, 2012, 01:12:29 PM
Yeah, we've known a while no. Tis a shame.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 02 September, 2012, 01:15:05 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 02 September, 2012, 12:56:00 PM
Did anyone see this on Cam Kennedy?...sad news.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/celebrity/judge-dredd-artist-cam-kennedy-1297079

Same story in the Sunday Record with a little snippet about the DREDD Movie too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 02 September, 2012, 01:19:03 PM
Radio 0ne interviewed Karl on Cox's show about an hour ago :D. Karl did alot of Dredd voice overs and bigged up the movie! He also mentioned Star Trek and his love of surfing! Great interview and PR for the film, ... check the podcast.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 02 September, 2012, 01:22:09 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 01 September, 2012, 05:55:22 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 31 August, 2012, 11:56:55 PM
Dredd shoots first!

LMAO nice one Gipsy (Wally Squad Judge Goaty)

What a typo... lol
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 02 September, 2012, 01:39:31 PM
My finger is hovering over the 'book now' online too! Hoping to get tickets at the local cinema for opening day. See attached picture as I imagine the opening red carpet night of Dredd 3D in the Meg might look like this! . . .

Caption for Dredd reads: 'Watch the Movie punks!'



















Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strangelysaucy on 02 September, 2012, 01:41:17 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 02 September, 2012, 03:59:26 AMThen I am gonna watch it again just so I can be thrown out for masturbating in the cinema

:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 02 September, 2012, 01:48:22 PM
504 pages and the film still isn't on general release... Well done Goaty!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: critter on 02 September, 2012, 02:10:50 PM
Yesterday I saw my first Physical movie poster for Dredd and first commercial on TV. Just 19 more days.

critter
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 02 September, 2012, 02:17:28 PM
Only 5 for us!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 02 September, 2012, 05:40:02 PM
Quote from: Stu101 on 01 September, 2012, 11:08:56 PM
Quote from: Stan on 01 September, 2012, 08:04:19 PM
Am I the only one interesting in hearing a Mark Kermode review?

I'll be listening to the podcast next Friday to hear his opinion. I think he may like it, if not bemoan the lack of depth to the story (I'm now paraphrasing other reviews). He quite often picks up on films being too long, not this one though  :)
If he does give it a positive review I think it'll help...

Ta. I wasn't aware there was a podcast but I'll check that out. Not that I really give a damn about reviews at this point. I'm just intrigued.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: auxlen on 02 September, 2012, 05:50:03 PM
I'm praying Mr Plinkett likes it!!!
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 02 September, 2012, 06:22:33 PM
It opens in less than a week. Why in seven hells can't I book a ticket?

Come to think of it, why does the Odeon site still not have a rating or running time? These details are readily available!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 September, 2012, 07:24:44 PM
So, is it safe to entertain the hope that Dredd will open at no.1 in the UK box office next week?

The main challenge seems to be Total Recall, which hasn't been out very long, but it's died a death everywhere else, so  should drop off fairly dramatically. That, coupled with the wider recognition of the character over here, and also Dredd seems to be getting a much bigger marketing push than TR did (bizarre, considering their respective budgets). Karl seems like a one man marketing machine, he's appearing on pretty much everything to promote the movie, which should really help its prospects.

I know a no.1 in the UK hardly guarantees success, but it would be a good start.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 September, 2012, 07:28:12 PM
Also; is there any word yet on the red carpet UK premiere? Surely it'll be in the next couple of days, presuming there is one?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 02 September, 2012, 07:41:39 PM
Quote from: radiator on 02 September, 2012, 07:28:12 PM
Also; is there any word yet on the red carpet UK premiere? Surely it'll be in the next couple of days, presuming there is one?

According to John no premier.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 02 September, 2012, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: W. R. Logan on 02 September, 2012, 07:41:39 PM
Quote from: radiator on 02 September, 2012, 07:28:12 PM
Also; is there any word yet on the red carpet UK premiere? Surely it'll be in the next couple of days, presuming there is one?

According to John no premier.

What?! I took that as a given.Do you know the reason is behind this Logan?

Karl is putting some serious work in, as Radiator says , promotion wise.I thought another reason it was released here first was to give it a big launch ie a Premier.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 02 September, 2012, 08:06:36 PM
Total layman when it comes to movie biz, so is that normal, the lack of a premiere?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 02 September, 2012, 08:10:45 PM
Yeah,mostly just for the event movies,Harry Potter etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 September, 2012, 08:11:08 PM
Thinking about it, it doesnt seem abnormal for a film of Dredd's size to not have a premiere.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 September, 2012, 08:12:20 PM
From what I know there isn't a premier for it and I asked both Alex and the PR ladies.

I have been into the Empire in Leicester Square (which has the biggest screen outside of Imax in the UK and screen 1 can hold 1,300) and chatted to the manager about what they were up to and I was in Judge Burdis mode. She would like to do something and will be getting back to me when she comes up with something.

Obviously this would be the 2nd best place to see it (some of us have seen it in the 1st best place) and the noise of the film would be amazing inside there!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 02 September, 2012, 08:16:03 PM
Total Laymen?...Total Reboot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 02 September, 2012, 08:33:38 PM
Premiers cost a lot of money... So not too shocked.

Love the idea of doing something for them, great idea John. Can't afford another London trek sadly & in any case, no uniform... So a;ll I can do is re-tweet & pimp on Facebook.

A big publicity push is a great idea.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 03 September, 2012, 01:09:18 AM
Booked my ticket this morning for Saturday 8th September at midday, as part of the Toronto Film Festival! Sadly I can't go to the midnight screening on Thursday as I've got to work.

Got a ticket to Sightseers too, the new film from Ben Wheatley (Kill List) that looks pretty damn good! Seven Psychopaths was sold out too, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 03 September, 2012, 01:17:10 AM
Quote from: radiator on 02 September, 2012, 08:11:08 PM
Thinking about it, it doesnt seem abnormal for a film of Dredd's size to not have a premiere.

A.Cow head hurt!  Too much hard multiple negatives to work out!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: auxlen on 03 September, 2012, 08:38:45 AM
DREDD has now replaced total recall as the main film advert on my youtube.
i don't know whether that is specific to me or a national thing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: willthemightyW on 03 September, 2012, 09:53:46 AM
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Love the idea of doing something for them, great idea John.
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Quote from: Bat King

It would be pretty cool to do something like that!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: willthemightyW on 03 September, 2012, 10:05:01 AM
How stupid can these people be?
That's a rhetorical question, as the answer was already demonstrated in their review of Dredd. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i-Y8jtPZ5Q
Now I'm not saying they're stupid because of their opinion (but they are!) but because they refer to themselves in some videos/articles as true geeks, not phonies etc, surely if that were they case they wouldn't say "Dredd should have taken his helmet off!"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 03 September, 2012, 11:01:29 AM
Quote from: radiator on 02 September, 2012, 07:24:44 PMSo, is it safe to entertain the hope that Dredd will open at no.1 in the UK box office next week?
Top three, I'd say. Number one might be a push, but I hope it makes it.

QuoteDredd seems to be getting a much bigger marketing push than TR did (bizarre, considering their respective budgets).
Depends where you live. No Dredd billboards round this way, and our local Vue in Basingstoke only had a tiny Dredd poster on the wall, but there was a huge Total Recall cut-out ad in the main corridor.

Still: crossing fingers.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 September, 2012, 11:09:09 AM
QuoteDepends where you live. No Dredd billboards round this way, and our local Vue in Basingstoke only had a tiny Dredd poster on the wall, but there was a huge Total Recall cut-out ad in the main corridor.

I've seen one small TR poster on the tube, quite a few on the sides of buses, and a single (very short) spot on TV.

I've seen DREDD billboards everywhere - two round the corner from my flat in East London, one on my route to work, another in Leyton, and another on the motorway. Plus I've seen the TV spot at least twice - and I hardly ever watch any broadcast TV.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 September, 2012, 11:48:31 AM
New clip on Digital Spy:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a399409/dredd-karl-urban-olivia-thirlby-in-new-preview-clip-video.html (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a399409/dredd-karl-urban-olivia-thirlby-in-new-preview-clip-video.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 03 September, 2012, 11:49:20 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 03 September, 2012, 11:01:29 AM
Quote from: radiator on 02 September, 2012, 07:24:44 PMSo, is it safe to entertain the hope that Dredd will open at no.1 in the UK box office next week?
Top three, I'd say. Number one might be a push, but I hope it makes it.

QuoteDredd seems to be getting a much bigger marketing push than TR did (bizarre, considering their respective budgets).
Depends where you live. No Dredd billboards round this way, and our local Vue in Basingstoke only had a tiny Dredd poster on the wall, but there was a huge Total Recall cut-out ad in the main corridor.

Still: crossing fingers.

It's not going to be anywhere unless it's being shown. According to their websites, Vue and Cineworld are showing it in a grand total of 3 places. I'm hoping that's wrong but by the looks of it, I'm not getting to see it this week. I'm assuming they're pretty big chains, though no idea really.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 September, 2012, 11:50:56 AM
Quote from: radiator on 03 September, 2012, 11:48:31 AM
New clip on Digital Spy:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a399409/dredd-karl-urban-olivia-thirlby-in-new-preview-clip-video.html (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a399409/dredd-karl-urban-olivia-thirlby-in-new-preview-clip-video.html)

Peech Trees?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 September, 2012, 11:55:51 AM
QuoteIt's not going to be anywhere unless it's being shown. According to their websites, Vue and Cineworld are showing it in a grand total of 3 places. I'm hoping that's wrong but by the looks of it, I'm not getting to see it this week. I'm assuming they're pretty big chains, though no idea really.

Most cinemas haven't updated their websites yet - I believe Dredd is being added to Odeon's booking page tomorrow afternoon.

My local - a Picturehouse cinema - isn't listing anything for next week yet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 03 September, 2012, 11:58:17 AM
Quote from: radiator on 03 September, 2012, 11:48:31 AM
New clip on Digital Spy:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a399409/dredd-karl-urban-olivia-thirlby-in-new-preview-clip-video.html (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a399409/dredd-karl-urban-olivia-thirlby-in-new-preview-clip-video.html)

Admirable. :) What I like the most is that the block feels genuine and alive. May sound silly but many of the screen caps we've seen so far made the city feel kind of desolate but this looks great!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 September, 2012, 12:06:20 PM
Quote from: radiator on 03 September, 2012, 11:55:51 AM
My local - a Picturehouse cinema - isn't listing anything for next week yet.

Infuriatingly, our local Showcase is listing six showings of Dredd on Friday, but Cineworld isn't showing any new listings for the week going forward from the 7th*... infuriating, because I have a Cineworld Unlimited card and am kind of tied them, and because I have multiple deadlines on Friday and need to work out if I can sneak in afternoon showing before going back to work.

Gaah!

Jim

*Apart from Dredd being on at the Shaftesbury Avenue Cineworld, which isn't a *lot* of help!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 03 September, 2012, 12:21:59 PM
Looking more closely, my local one isn't booking anything for any films past Thursday, despite it being a list for "the next 7 days". Hopefully that means it'll be updated today or tomorrow. Bit of a failure on their behalf though. Maybe they both use the same unreliable webmasters that are on the sick this week  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 03 September, 2012, 12:23:22 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 03 September, 2012, 12:06:20 PM
Quote from: radiator on 03 September, 2012, 11:55:51 AM
My local - a Picturehouse cinema - isn't listing anything for next week yet.

Infuriatingly, our local Showcase is listing six showings of Dredd on Friday, but Cineworld isn't showing any new listings for the week going forward from the 7th*... infuriating, because I have a Cineworld Unlimited card and am kind of tied them, and because I have multiple deadlines on Friday and need to work out if I can sneak in afternoon showing before going back to work.

Gaah!

Jim

*Apart from Dredd being on at the Shaftesbury Avenue Cineworld, which isn't a *lot* of help!
Ive got the same problem mate im gonna pop in to my local cineworld on the way home from work  which is in st helens and ask if there showing it if there not i aint gonna be happy as its the only cinema in st helens also there is a huge bilboard showing the dredd poster not far from the cinema
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 September, 2012, 12:24:56 PM
I'm pretty sure that Dredd is going to be a fairly wide release and should be showing at pretty much all the main cinemas and multiplexes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 03 September, 2012, 12:31:45 PM
Quote from: radiator on 03 September, 2012, 11:48:31 AM
New clip on Digital Spy:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a399409/dredd-karl-urban-olivia-thirlby-in-new-preview-clip-video.html (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a399409/dredd-karl-urban-olivia-thirlby-in-new-preview-clip-video.html)

Admirabley!
http://youtu.be/AhpnWUYJtHw
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 03 September, 2012, 12:32:22 PM
Yeah, Cineworld's week is Fri-Thurs, so you usually don't get listings for next week until Thursday night. Very annoying.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 September, 2012, 12:40:54 PM
If anyone is close by or lives in London, you may want to hold off for a day or two. I'm waiting to hear back from the manager of the EMPIRE in Leicester Square about a showing and I'll be in uniform.

This has the biggest screen outside of an IMAX and it holds 1,300 in screen 1 and it has a THX – 56K Watt certified sound system.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 03 September, 2012, 12:42:27 PM
Nice clip - for me it's nice to see Dredd speaking fairly naturally, and sounding like a relatively normal person; it's easy to imagine Dredd speaking like Dirty Harry all the time, though in film it just means you're doing a knock off Dirty Harry.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 03 September, 2012, 12:42:49 PM
No sign of Vue or Odeon booking online as yet!
... I'm getting itchy feet waiting on this now :-/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 03 September, 2012, 12:47:05 PM
Vue should have it up. Missus checked it yesterday and it was there.




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 September, 2012, 12:49:58 PM
QuoteNice clip - for me it's nice to see Dredd speaking fairly naturally, and sounding like a relatively normal person; it's easy to imagine Dredd speaking like Dirty Harry all the time, though in film it just means you're doing a knock off Dirty Harry.

The bit where he says "Make a difference, to block like this?" sounds a bit off and very adr'd - I don't remember it sounding like that in the film - perhaps it's been redone since?

A couple of cool things in the clip - the way the residents are eyeing Dredd and Anderson with hostility/fear/suspicion, and the way Dredd stares Anderson down.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 03 September, 2012, 12:51:02 PM
Vue are usually up on wednesday.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 03 September, 2012, 12:51:34 PM
Quote from: Adrian Bamforth on 03 September, 2012, 12:42:27 PM
Nice clip - for me it's nice to see Dredd speaking fairly naturally, and sounding like a relatively normal person; it's easy to imagine Dredd speaking like Dirty Harry all the time, though in film it just means you're doing a knock off Dirty Harry.

I think it's kind of odd that his voice changes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 03 September, 2012, 12:52:30 PM
Just checked Vue Leicester and Dredd is up Fri, Sat and Sun with full timings.
http://www.myvue.com/latest-movies



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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 03 September, 2012, 12:53:32 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 03 September, 2012, 12:47:05 PM
Vue should have it up. Missus checked it yesterday and it was there.




V
Buggers,i checked this morn and it was no where to b found....i do live in the arse hole of the uk though
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 September, 2012, 12:56:39 PM
Quote from: radiator on 03 September, 2012, 12:49:58 PM
The bit where he says "Make a difference, to block like this?" sounds a bit off and very adr'd - I don't remember it sounding like that in the film - perhaps it's been redone since?



They all seem to be from the same EPK stuff which were probably produced some time ago.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 03 September, 2012, 01:54:37 PM
Nice clip from digital spy  :o As mentioned we hear Dredd just conversing with no vocal slant. Sounds perfect! Sounds like this is the start, age wise and story wise.  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 03 September, 2012, 03:44:53 PM
You know, I've been thinking about it and I'd really like to try some Slo-Mo. It looks fucking mint.

Does anyone know where I can score some (other than Peach Trees. I heard there was a drug bust there)?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 03 September, 2012, 04:31:07 PM
A quick question for those that have already seen Dredd - and apologies if this has been discussed on here or elsewhere, but im trying to avoid certain threads relating to the film until i get to see it myself this coming weekend.

But how was the 3D? Now, im not a huge fan of it, but i reckon itll go well with this film, in particular the slo-mo bits.
So, whats the general consensus, like?

Thanks
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 September, 2012, 04:39:17 PM
3D does nothing for me, unless things fly out of the screen like at the US theme parks.

Saying that I enjoyed the depth on the screen which worked well as characters moved through scenes. The Slo-mo bits I really need to see again (the whole film really), as they looked stunning and without giving anything away I LOVED the last bit of Slo-mo on screen. It was STUNNING!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 03 September, 2012, 04:43:17 PM
The 3D really ADDED to the film and seemed even at the time of watching it , necessary for certain scenes to really work.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 September, 2012, 04:45:02 PM
with 3D, Cursed Earth and Mega City 1 at opening scene looks so beautiful.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 03 September, 2012, 04:57:45 PM
Yeah, I'm a total cynic when it comes to the 3D but they use it very creatively in Dredd. I would say see it at least once with the goggles on. It's well worth it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 September, 2012, 05:05:58 PM
Unlike when other films are just made for a few key scenes of horror so that shit can fly out at me in the audience (which as I said earlier, I like), this is used differently.

The claustrophobic feel when they are moving round the halls and rooms and you are right with them, is well shown on screen with the 3D effect.

Also when you look across the block's atrium in certain scenes, you can actually feel that massive drop between you and the other side!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 September, 2012, 05:06:51 PM
QuoteBut how was the 3D?

It seemed quite considered to me - for one thing I didn't get all the ghosting/double vision I normally do from a 3d movie when the camera or subject moves too fast.

The slo mo bits - as expected - look great.

Easily one of the better uses of 3d I've seen in a film. I'd recommend seeing it in 3d.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 September, 2012, 05:17:50 PM
Without spoilering, my eyes got used to it towards the middle but there are a couple of sequences outside of the slomo ones which work particularly well.

I'd say it's been done with more thoughtfully than some other 3D films.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 September, 2012, 05:23:40 PM
Nice, Empire send out this;

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/538491_10151132331312708_931983146_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 03 September, 2012, 05:27:08 PM
Awesome, Mr Urban does seem like a fantastic sport. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 03 September, 2012, 06:14:12 PM
Cineworld are taking bookings for DREDD 3D
http://www.cineworld.co.uk/films/5473
and 2D
http://www.cineworld.co.uk/films/5475

Not all cinemas are listed yet... at least my local isn't.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 03 September, 2012, 06:29:39 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 03 September, 2012, 06:14:12 PM
Cineworld are taking bookings for DREDD 3D
http://www.cineworld.co.uk/films/5473
and 2D
http://www.cineworld.co.uk/films/5475

Not all cinemas are listed yet... at least my local isn't.

Nice one!

Just booked for my local near Leigh 9pm!

Can't wait!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 03 September, 2012, 07:07:01 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 03 September, 2012, 06:14:12 PM
Cineworld are taking bookings for DREDD 3D
http://www.cineworld.co.uk/films/5473
and 2D
http://www.cineworld.co.uk/films/5475

Not all cinemas are listed yet... at least my local isn't.

Mine neither CN!  Sort it out Cineworld Glasgow Renfrew Street!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 September, 2012, 07:09:53 PM
Maybe that's it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 03 September, 2012, 07:43:50 PM
Quote from: radiator on 03 September, 2012, 07:09:53 PM
Maybe that's it.

*Shudders*

It had better not be or my local Cineworld won't be seeing my business again any time soon!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 03 September, 2012, 08:06:35 PM
The Cineworld lists have been added to since they first appeared. I expect more will pop up tomorrow.
Lawless (http://www.cineworld.co.uk/films/5480) was only listed properly today.
Anna Karenina  (http://www.cineworld.co.uk/films/5477) also opens the same day and it's got nothing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 03 September, 2012, 08:09:14 PM
I guess this is an unlikely request as it's obviously not clear yet how Dredd will even play in the UK -But- If anyone learns anything about how it might roll out across Europe it'd be much appreciated. None of the films Ive seen have carried the trailer and there's a nasty rumour that (here anyway) it will go straight to DVD. Say it ain't so.

"The following titles have been removed from the release schedule, and many are likely to go straight to DVD in the Czech Republic.

Sparkle (USA, 2012) | IMDb
The Odd Life of Timothy Green (USA, 2012) | IMDb
Ruby Sparks (USA, 2012) | IMDb
The Apparition (USA, 2012) | IMDb
The Babymakers (USA, 2012) | IMDb
Red Lights (USA, 2012) | IMDb
The Players (France, 2012) | IMDb
7500 (USA, 2012) | IMDb
Dredd (UK, 2012) | IMDb
Finding Nemo 3D (USA, 2003) | IMDb"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 03 September, 2012, 08:12:32 PM
OH! Joy! . . .  after waiting all weekend the bookings have appeared on Vue Cinema. Where's that switch card (x2 tickets VIP for Thursday)! :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 September, 2012, 08:13:24 PM
The listings are up at various cinemas but some don't put their listings up till Tuesday. This is what happens at the ODEON in my town. I suppose we will have a better idea in 24hrs!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 03 September, 2012, 09:03:14 PM
I just heard a trailer/competition promo on Absolute 80's, which was nice. Enter the insanely difficult comertition for tickets and an iPad here..
http://www.absoluteradio.co.uk/freebies/competitions/dredd/index.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 03 September, 2012, 09:03:56 PM
Quote from: The Bissler on 03 September, 2012, 07:43:50 PM
Quote from: radiator on 03 September, 2012, 07:09:53 PM
Maybe that's it.

*Shudders*

It had better not be or my local Cineworld won't be seeing my business again any time soon!

I doubt it..up until last night cineworld were only showing one cinema showing Dredd
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 03 September, 2012, 09:06:44 PM
I have six tickets for Vue Sunday 20:30 in my hand. first to book for that date/time as all seats were available to choose from. Hope this isn't a bad sign.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 03 September, 2012, 09:48:32 PM
I've never booked ahead of time so I wouldn't really know.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 September, 2012, 10:12:32 PM
I've never booked online, I've always been a pop in a few days before and book, pictures goer!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 September, 2012, 10:13:13 PM
Three new HQ images. Third image is bit fault;

(http://i.imgur.com/REgnB.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/3rVUU.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/xvuO1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 03 September, 2012, 10:16:53 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 September, 2012, 10:12:32 PM
I've never booked online, I've always been a pop in a few days before and book, pictures goer!
I went to the actual Cinema (as it was on the way to the hospital) to book them as there is a booking fee for each ticket on line. £11 a ticket is alot but to add extra for each ticket is a disgrace, if there is to be a booking fee surely is should be one set price no matter how many tickets you order.



V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 03 September, 2012, 10:21:54 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 03 September, 2012, 05:27:08 PM
Awesome, Mr Urban does seem like a fantastic sport. :)

Yes. It's otherwise unheard of for a professional actor to do everything in their power to promote their current film and first headlining gig. ; o)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 03 September, 2012, 10:22:21 PM
Ay idea when the 2d version is out? Sadly I can't see 3d.  My local cinema is being refurbed so don't have it right away anyway sadly but I'm hoping a 2d version might turn up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 03 September, 2012, 10:26:30 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 03 September, 2012, 10:16:53 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 September, 2012, 10:12:32 PM
I've never booked online, I've always been a pop in a few days before and book, pictures goer!
I went to the actual Cinema (as it was on the way to the hospital) to book them as there is a booking fee for each ticket on line. £11 a ticket is alot but to add extra for each ticket is a disgrace, if there is to be a booking fee surely is should be one set price no matter how many tickets you order.



V

If you register with Cineworld it is 10% cheaper to buy tickets online.  Other chains of cinemas are available of course...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 03 September, 2012, 10:45:59 PM
Hooray, they're all up now. Renfrew Street's there too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 03 September, 2012, 11:06:12 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 03 September, 2012, 10:21:54 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 03 September, 2012, 05:27:08 PM
Awesome, Mr Urban does seem like a fantastic sport. :)

Yes. It's otherwise unheard of for a professional actor to do everything in their power to promote their current film and first headlining gig. ; o)

Isn't his first top billing... That'd be Doom. Even more so Pathfinder.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 03 September, 2012, 11:10:35 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 03 September, 2012, 10:21:54 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 03 September, 2012, 05:27:08 PM
Awesome, Mr Urban does seem like a fantastic sport. :)

Yes. It's otherwise unheard of for a professional actor to do everything in their power to promote their current film and first headlining gig. ; o)

Uncalled for. Met the guy and he's really nice, and a Dredd fan himself. He's done umpteen interviews and patiently answered the same questions and inane questions over and over with the same level of passion and enthusiasm every time.We really couldn't hope for a better ambassador.

Some actors, I have met a few, are standoffish and a bit egotistical.He is NOT.We're lucky to have him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 September, 2012, 11:12:50 PM
Karl is great bloke! Even he knew Goaty when Alex introduced me!

Alex Garland introduced me to Karl Urban!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 03 September, 2012, 11:14:21 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 03 September, 2012, 11:12:50 PM
Karl is great bloke! Even he knew Goaty when Alex introduced me!

Alex Garland introduced me to Karl Urban!!!

Nice one Goaty, didn't know that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strangelysaucy on 03 September, 2012, 11:42:50 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 03 September, 2012, 11:06:12 PM

Isn't his first top billing... That'd be Doom. Even more so Pathfinder.

and Priest!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 03 September, 2012, 11:55:20 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 03 September, 2012, 11:12:50 PM
Karl is great bloke! Even he knew Goaty when Alex introduced me!

Alex Garland introduced me to Karl Urban!!!

I get the feeling Karl has been on the Forum... We know Alex has.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 04 September, 2012, 12:04:38 AM
Yep, Karl is officially cool. This is pretty much how my brief conversation went with him:

Me (gushing as usual): "Hi Karl, I'm Pete. I'm a big Dredd fan and I just want to thank you for being such an amazing ambassador for Dredd."
Karl: "It's been a pleasure!"
Me: "I particularly like how much respect you've given John Wagner in all your interviews, it's nice to hear an actor talk about someone else!"
Karl "Hey mate, I'm just glad that he, and the fans have finally got the Dredd film we deserve."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 04 September, 2012, 12:08:55 AM
I do apologise; Didn't realise that we couldn't have light hearted banter about the film or stars.

Was he really the top name in Doom? I assumed that was either The Rock or the game.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 04 September, 2012, 12:09:55 AM
Holy shit!I should be able to book my ticket in less than 13 hours time!!

It's really real!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 04 September, 2012, 12:24:06 AM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 03 September, 2012, 10:22:21 PM
Ay idea when the 2d version is out? Sadly I can't see 3d.  My local cinema is being refurbed so don't have it right away anyway sadly but I'm hoping a 2d version might turn up.

Have you considered getting two pairs of glasses and making a double right-eyed viewer?

I must admit I've always wondered why cinemas don't do that, so they can mix 2D & 3D audiences in the same auditorium.  It would certainly save losing precious 3D supplements where a group of customers might otherwise downgrade due to one of them not liking 3D.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 04 September, 2012, 12:35:15 AM
Anyone know if 2D prints are going out of this film? Local Vue only has 3D showings listed, and I can't do 3D.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 04 September, 2012, 12:42:17 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 04 September, 2012, 12:24:06 AM
Have you considered getting two pairs of glasses and making a double right-eyed viewer?

Doesn't help if you only have one good eye. My uncle can't watch 3D, and no amount of jiggery pokery with the glasses will give him two good eyes
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 04 September, 2012, 02:49:42 AM
Quote from: pops1983 on 04 September, 2012, 12:42:17 AM
Doesn't help if you only have one good eye. My uncle can't watch 3D, and no amount of jiggery pokery with the glasses will give him two good eyes

Damn those Hollywood studios and their aversion to monocular depth cues!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 04 September, 2012, 08:14:20 AM
Cineworld have 2D showings, but they're nowhere near as numerous as the 3D.

If it helps, after the first half hour at the fan screening I took the 3D glasses off. It was fine. Most of the time everything in a shot I was supposed to be focusing on was non-blurry anyway.

I may give the 3D another chance, but intend to see it in 2D next -- or at least 3D without the glasses again!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 04 September, 2012, 10:48:34 AM
New behind the scenes footage
http://www.mymovies.net/player/default.asp?t=Dredd+Exclusive+Interview+With+Karl+Urban&filmid=1698&ftrid=15175&s=1&n=1
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 September, 2012, 11:00:08 AM
Quote from: pops1983 on 04 September, 2012, 12:42:17 AM
Doesn't help if you only have one good eye. My uncle can't watch 3D, and no amount of jiggery pokery with the glasses will give him two good eyes

I'm not sure I understand this. As I grasp the 3D process (admittedly in a simplistic and likely imperfect fashion), 3D movies consist of two sets of images, one is shown in vertically polarised light and one in horizontally polarised light. The lenses in the 3D glasses are similarly polarised, ensuring that each eye gets a different image.

It's the difference between these images that brain interprets as stereoscopic depth and gives the illusion of 3D, but each image is complete in its own right.

Consequently, as I understand the process, if your uncle sticks on a pair of 3D specs, his good eye will see a single set of images -- a filtered and perfectly watchable film in 2D.

(Obviously, you could question why he should pay extra for an element of the film he doesn't benefit from, but that's a different argument. Colour blind people don't get a discount on normal colour movies, as far as I know...)

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 04 September, 2012, 11:43:06 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 04 September, 2012, 10:48:34 AM
New behind the scenes footage
http://www.mymovies.net/player/default.asp?t=Dredd+Exclusive+Interview+With+Karl+Urban&filmid=1698&ftrid=15175&s=1&n=1


I think I remember Alex saying the dvd was done, that there won't be much goodies in it, which would be a shame. As much as I was looking forward to the movie, I was really looking forward to seeing how the movie was made, from concept to every freaking little thing involved.

Surely they'd consider making another dvd package later on, knowing now what they didn't then how popular this movie is turning out to be?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 04 September, 2012, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 04 September, 2012, 10:48:34 AM
New behind the scenes footage
http://www.mymovies.net/player/default.asp?t=Dredd+Exclusive+Interview+With+Karl+Urban&filmid=1698&ftrid=15175&s=1&n=1

WOW, YET another interview with a complete and utter blank of the director and high priase for Alex and Dodd Mantle. It must have been a massive fall-out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 04 September, 2012, 12:34:44 PM
They'll probably do a special edition DVD/BD with more features if the standard release sells well.

Personally, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for some sort of exclusive slip-case or steel book edition. I'm a sucker for those things, to my shame!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 04 September, 2012, 01:07:06 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 04 September, 2012, 12:22:28 PMWOW, YET another interview with a complete and utter blank of the director and high priase for Alex and Dodd Mantle. It must have been a massive fall-out.
Or Travis was a work-for-hire director, enabling the vision of the entire creative team. Remember this is often how movies were made in the past and is how some are still made today. The thing is, too many people bang on about the vision of directors as the most important thing in a movie, in part due to named directors being so prominent.

Perhaps there was a 'falling out', but there's nothing to say Travis didn't just get on with his job of directing, while Garland was also there to ensure the writer's vision (and that of Wagner) was maintained. Frankly, it's also nice to see a cinematographer getting props.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 04 September, 2012, 01:23:53 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 04 September, 2012, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 04 September, 2012, 10:48:34 AM
New behind the scenes footage
http://www.mymovies.net/player/default.asp?t=Dredd+Exclusive+Interview+With+Karl+Urban&filmid=1698&ftrid=15175&s=1&n=1

WOW, YET another interview with a complete and utter blank of the director and high priase for Alex and Dodd Mantle. It must have been a massive fall-out.
I agree i find it weird that whenever pete travis name is brought up alex or carl quickly change the subject like he didnt even exist,well it is what it is the film looks great cant wait to see it on friday  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 04 September, 2012, 01:24:17 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 04 September, 2012, 10:48:34 AM
New behind the scenes footage
http://www.mymovies.net/player/default.asp?t=Dredd+Exclusive+Interview+With+Karl+Urban&filmid=1698&ftrid=15175&s=1&n=1

I would guess that green strip on the visor was for the firey reflection thingymibob in the trailer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 04 September, 2012, 01:30:01 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 04 September, 2012, 01:07:06 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 04 September, 2012, 12:22:28 PMWOW, YET another interview with a complete and utter blank of the director and high priase for Alex and Dodd Mantle. It must have been a massive fall-out.
Or Travis was a work-for-hire director, enabling the vision of the entire creative team. Remember this is often how movies were made in the past and is how some are still made today. The thing is, too many people bang on about the vision of directors as the most important thing in a movie, in part due to named directors being so prominent.

Indeen. Directors often take the glory when things go well, regardless of films being a collaborative effort. Though in fairness they also take the stick when working with poor material. Swings and roundabouts I suppose.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 04 September, 2012, 01:53:02 PM
Something went down, they handled it, let's leave it at that. Bravo to them all for keeping a lid on it and not spilling hissy-fits and bitching to the press - that'd damage this film before it had a chance. Maybe conflict's a sign of how passionate they all were about getting this right ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 04 September, 2012, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: radiator on 04 September, 2012, 12:34:44 PM
They'll probably do a special edition DVD/BD with more features if the standard release sells well.

Personally, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for some sort of exclusive slip-case or steel book edition. I'm a sucker for those things, to my shame!

I am bouncing on the inside at the thought, especially if they design the covers to be dreddtastic, maybe with jock involved. And it has to have hours and hours and hours of production details to while away the hours after Christmas dinner.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 04 September, 2012, 02:22:37 PM
Interest at work seems good - I am recounting my experience of the pre-release screening to several people. Some are definitely going to see the movie.

Spread the word! (no ABC Warriors were harmed in the making of this movie)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 04 September, 2012, 03:31:06 PM
re 3d. I have rubbish eye balance due to strabismus that's been operated on many times and just keeps getting worse.

for me it's just a blurry mess, two images just appear as exactly that to me, overlapping each other.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 04 September, 2012, 03:38:09 PM
QuoteI am bouncing on the inside at the thought, especially if they design the covers to be dreddtastic, maybe with jock involved. And it has to have hours and hours and hours of production details to while away the hours after Christmas dinner.

I suspect that the DVD release date is probably going to be early 2013.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 04 September, 2012, 03:40:21 PM
Quote from: Stan on 04 September, 2012, 01:24:17 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 04 September, 2012, 10:48:34 AM
New behind the scenes footage
http://www.mymovies.net/player/default.asp?t=Dredd+Exclusive+Interview+With+Karl+Urban&filmid=1698&ftrid=15175&s=1&n=1

I would guess that green strip on the visor was for the firey reflection thingymibob in the trailer.

Or for the slo-mo scenes, ya dumbass.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 04 September, 2012, 03:57:08 PM
Can't see it on my phone but from what Alex said in the pub they did some painting out of crew reflected in the visor - so its more likely general specific reflection shots than slomo in particular.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 04 September, 2012, 05:14:39 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 04 September, 2012, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: radiator on 04 September, 2012, 12:34:44 PM
They'll probably do a special edition DVD/BD with more features if the standard release sells well.

Personally, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for some sort of exclusive slip-case or steel book edition. I'm a sucker for those things, to my shame!

I am bouncing on the inside at the thought, especially if they design the covers to be dreddtastic, maybe with jock involved. And it has to have hours and hours and hours of production details to while away the hours after Christmas dinner.

Re Your Xmas dinner comment, Alex Garland told us the only way we'd see a DVD release before the end of the year is if it tanks at the box office.  We know that ain't gonna happen, right?!? :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 04 September, 2012, 05:25:26 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 04 September, 2012, 03:57:08 PM
Can't see it on my phone but from what Alex said in the pub they did some painting out of crew reflected in the visor - so its more likely general specific reflection shots than slomo in particular.

OK, after seeing it yeah it's probably that CU from the Red Band clip where the gang are reflected.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 04 September, 2012, 05:28:31 PM
Quote from: radiator on 04 September, 2012, 03:38:09 PM
QuoteI am bouncing on the inside at the thought, especially if they design the covers to be dreddtastic, maybe with jock involved. And it has to have hours and hours and hours of production details to while away the hours after Christmas dinner.

I suspect that the DVD release date is probably going to be early 2013.

I'll delay Christmas. Seriously though, any Christmas, every Christmas, like I used to do with Star Wars and now do with LOTR. I can wait. By all accounts, they've delivered above and beyond expectations and the least I can do is spend spend spend.

Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 04 September, 2012, 05:14:39 PM

Re Your Xmas dinner comment, Alex Garland told us the only way we'd see a DVD release before the end of the year is if it tanks at the box office.  We know that ain't gonna happen, right?!? :D

In that case, I definitely don't want it for this Christmas! God, the anxiety never ends! - don't get me wrong, it's been wonderful waiting for Dredd with you all, but I really don't want to be this invested in another movie ever again! It's stressful. So stressful. And that's not even counting the stress that comes from arguing with other forum members over every little thing Dredd-related; just worried for the movie stress, for the cast and crew and hoping they get the success they richly deserve.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 04 September, 2012, 05:44:45 PM
I hear you, brother.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 04 September, 2012, 06:01:18 PM
Never been so invested in a movie before EVER either, but will happily do it all again if we get a sequel. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 04 September, 2012, 06:10:20 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 04 September, 2012, 06:01:18 PM
Never been so invested in a movie before EVER either, but will happily do it all again if we get a sequel. :thumbsup:

Yeah, well, that goes without saying :)

I want the same team though. Without Garland, Urban et al, I can't see me getting enthused even if it means more Dredd on the big or small screen. They come across as such good people and regardless of how good the new folk might be, I don't think I'll get over losing them.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 04 September, 2012, 06:11:48 PM
The prequel comic by Matt Smith and Henry Flint is online now: http://www.scribd.com/doc/104439907/DREDD-MA-MA (http://www.scribd.com/doc/104439907/DREDD-MA-MA)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 04 September, 2012, 06:13:04 PM
Same here, stupidly obsessed with this film. Can't sleep I am that excited.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 04 September, 2012, 06:14:13 PM
 Dredd gets a little mention in this weeks Radio Times (8-14 Sep) in the Doctor Who feature (p6-7) for [spoiler]Dinosaurs on a Spaceship.[/spoiler] 'Director Saul Metzstein had been "shooting second unit on Dredd [in cinemas this weekend], so we knew he'd be comfortable with large-scale effects"

Further on in the issue Dredd pops up again in '...A Night at the Cinema' (p44) with a very short plot synopsis and a 4 STAR rating.

I know these are only snippets, but it's getting Dredd out there into the public consciousness.:thumbsup:

Stew. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 04 September, 2012, 06:17:37 PM
Vote for Dredd here! http://www.comingsoon.net/index.php (Bottom right)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 04 September, 2012, 06:21:02 PM
There's also a Dredd banner add on there.Click on it to see more positive quotes from reviews!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 04 September, 2012, 06:22:45 PM
Quote from: radiator on 04 September, 2012, 06:11:48 PM
The prequel comic by Matt Smith and Henry Flint is online now: http://www.scribd.com/doc/104439907/DREDD-MA-MA (http://www.scribd.com/doc/104439907/DREDD-MA-MA)

Nice one!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judda fett on 04 September, 2012, 06:23:24 PM
Quote from: radiator on 04 September, 2012, 06:11:48 PM
The prequel comic by Matt Smith and Henry Flint is online now: http://www.scribd.com/doc/104439907/DREDD-MA-MA (http://www.scribd.com/doc/104439907/DREDD-MA-MA)

Just read it- cheers!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 04 September, 2012, 06:25:49 PM
Quote from: radiator on 04 September, 2012, 06:11:48 PM
The prequel comic by Matt Smith and Henry Flint is online now: http://www.scribd.com/doc/104439907/DREDD-MA-MA (http://www.scribd.com/doc/104439907/DREDD-MA-MA)

That was cool! Thought it was gonna be longer though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 04 September, 2012, 06:32:39 PM
Quote from: radiator on 04 September, 2012, 06:11:48 PM
The prequel comic by Matt Smith and Henry Flint is online now: http://www.scribd.com/doc/104439907/DREDD-MA-MA (http://www.scribd.com/doc/104439907/DREDD-MA-MA)

How good does the movie uniform look drawn up by Mr Flint. Fantastic!  :thumbsup:  Please Mighty One, print this in the Prog or the Meg.

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 04 September, 2012, 06:35:54 PM
You get if free with the forthcomig Meg SKD!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 04 September, 2012, 06:37:19 PM
Is it just me, or does anyone think the movie uniform actually looks better? They should start drawing Dredd like this. Or perhaps this could be a good way to avoid the problem of Dredd ageing in real time in the comics and start a flashback story told through old case files or something and it could just go on for as long as they wanted.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 04 September, 2012, 06:46:12 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 04 September, 2012, 06:35:54 PM
You get if free with the forthcomig Meg SKD!

Excellent. Cheers Pete.  :D

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 04 September, 2012, 06:47:57 PM
Mr EliminatorIt  looks better in the film but any drawings I've seen: naaah. Just look at how cool the predator looks in your own avatar andthen imagine the same pic with the more generic riot-cop thing going on.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 04 September, 2012, 06:55:10 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 04 September, 2012, 01:07:06 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 04 September, 2012, 12:22:28 PMWOW, YET another interview with a complete and utter blank of the director and high priase for Alex and Dodd Mantle. It must have been a massive fall-out.
Or Travis was a work-for-hire director, enabling the vision of the entire creative team. Remember this is often how movies were made in the past and is how some are still made today. The thing is, too many people bang on about the vision of directors as the most important thing in a movie, in part due to named directors being so prominent.

Perhaps there was a 'falling out', but there's nothing to say Travis didn't just get on with his job of directing, while Garland was also there to ensure the writer's vision (and that of Wagner) was maintained. Frankly, it's also nice to see a cinematographer getting props.

Exactly. Sounds like Travis knew he had a very talented team going and it's entirely possible he was quite happy to coordinate their efforts without getting in the way of how they did their jobs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judda fett on 04 September, 2012, 07:14:43 PM
Dont know if anyones linked this- phone footage of the intro to the fan screening (ie Alex, Karl etc introducing- NOT the intro to the film). Couple of crowd sweeps (I can see me there).
http://youtu.be/3KTvojsq8oU
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 04 September, 2012, 07:15:40 PM
So looking forward to my first Dredd 3D viewing this Thursday with another lined up for next week. I'm sure as a fan I'll get what my exceptations have hoped for. The proof is in the pudding though so lets see how the general public receive the film. I do yearn for it to be a good response so we get our sequel  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Diminished Responsibility on 04 September, 2012, 07:21:35 PM
Pretty much every review is calling this a Scott Travis movie, that's the way movies are seen these days, as the directors baby. Dredd is definitely much more Alex Garlands, and the look hase more to do with the cinematographer than the director. I guess the lack of mentions for Travis in promotional material and interviews kind of counter balances this perception.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 04 September, 2012, 07:25:53 PM
Soooo close.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 04 September, 2012, 07:28:52 PM
That behind-the-scenes video from this morning now in HD.

http://video.uk.msn.com/watch/video/dredd-interview-with-karl-urban/2s8l71tp
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 04 September, 2012, 07:36:08 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 04 September, 2012, 06:17:37 PM
Vote for Dredd here! http://www.comingsoon.net/index.php (Bottom right)
Dredd is only in 3rd place. Lets try to get it higher.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 04 September, 2012, 08:09:35 PM
Quote from: judgefett on 04 September, 2012, 07:14:43 PM
Dont know if anyones linked this- phone footage of the intro to the fan screening (ie Alex, Karl etc introducing- NOT the intro to the film). Couple of crowd sweeps (I can see me there).
http://youtu.be/3KTvojsq8oU

This brings back wonderful memories! Cheers Judgefett!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 04 September, 2012, 08:19:26 PM
The bloody Odeon still haven't updated their listings!
This is doing my blood pressure no good...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 04 September, 2012, 08:20:00 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 04 September, 2012, 07:36:08 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 04 September, 2012, 06:17:37 PM
Vote for Dredd here! http://www.comingsoon.net/index.php (Bottom right)
Dredd is only in 3rd place. Lets try to get it higher.

V

For my faith in humanity to be restored, the general audience must swerve Resident Evil and try something which isn't proven crap. Hopefully they will.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jay jay on 04 September, 2012, 08:20:25 PM
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=66775 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=66775)

There is a new featurette with some fresh footage at CBM, and they have some concept art of the stallone's lawmaster. pretty cool.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 04 September, 2012, 08:22:52 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 03 September, 2012, 04:31:07 PM
A quick question for those that have already seen Dredd...

Thanks for all the replies, Guys. 3D, it is then!

Quote from: radiator on 03 September, 2012, 05:06:51 PM
It seemed quite considered to me - for one thing I didn't get all the ghosting/double vision I normally do from a 3d movie when the camera or subject moves too fast

That was my worry TBH. Ive been to see a couple of 3D movies, and that was always the case, for me. Though the films in question were probably converted to 3D in haste to cash-in.
Im gonna see Dredd at least twice, so may still try both formats, but ill go with 3D first.

Much obliged!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 04 September, 2012, 08:25:00 PM
Dunno if this has been posted, but pretty cool motion comic version of the prequel strip here: http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/09/04/dredd-3d-motion-comic
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 04 September, 2012, 08:27:06 PM
Quote from: Noisybast on 04 September, 2012, 08:19:26 PM
The bloody Odeon still haven't updated their listings!
This is doing my blood pressure no good...

It was up there when I just looked.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 04 September, 2012, 08:42:01 PM
I saw it up earlier but it looks like they're still adding cinemas. They've only included one Liverpool cinema for Dredd 3D and one UK cinema has 2D.

Cinema!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 04 September, 2012, 10:01:52 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 04 September, 2012, 07:36:08 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 04 September, 2012, 06:17:37 PM
Vote for Dredd here! http://www.comingsoon.net/index.php (Bottom right)
Dredd is only in 3rd place. Lets try to get it higher.




V

Just cast a vote. What the grud is Looper? and the Resident evil stuff should all be banished to the DvD bargin box at Wilko's!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 04 September, 2012, 10:14:36 PM
I really don't understand how Resident Evil could be more anticipated then Dredd. People are fucking crazy!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 04 September, 2012, 10:16:48 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 04 September, 2012, 10:14:36 PM
I really don't understand how Resident Evil could be more anticipated then Dredd. People are fucking crazy!
Bigger fan base I'm afraid.



V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 04 September, 2012, 10:24:45 PM
Draughts sells better than Chess.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 04 September, 2012, 10:44:27 PM
Resident Evil is Stupidly popular. It has something to do with what they put in the water.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 04 September, 2012, 10:49:48 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 04 September, 2012, 10:44:27 PM
Resident Evil is Stupidly popular. It has something to do with what they put in the water.
I think I have figured out why.
(http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Milla-Jovovich-milla-jovovich-148767_1024_768.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 05 September, 2012, 12:05:28 AM
I never hear people talking about it though. It may be a franchise but it's a very limited and forgettable one. A mere blip in the history of cinema.

In the meantime, people are still quoting Robocop.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 05 September, 2012, 12:08:51 AM
Also Dredd is higher up on the movie meter on IMDb.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 05 September, 2012, 12:10:24 AM
I can understand other websites using it, but that bogus poster of a bloodied badge made it to the listings for the Reel Cinema chain.

http://york.reelcinemas.co.uk/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 September, 2012, 01:53:49 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 04 September, 2012, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 04 September, 2012, 10:48:34 AM
New behind the scenes footage
http://www.mymovies.net/player/default.asp?t=Dredd+Exclusive+Interview+With+Karl+Urban&filmid=1698&ftrid=15175&s=1&n=1

WOW, YET another interview with a complete and utter blank of the director and high priase for Alex and Dodd Mantle. It must have been a massive fall-out.



Quote from: hazy efc on 04 September, 2012, 01:23:53 PMI agree i find it weird that whenever pete travis name is brought up alex or carl quickly change the subject like he didnt even exist,well it is what it is the film looks great cant wait to see it on friday  :D


Quote from: BOODA on 04 September, 2012, 01:53:02 PM
Something went down, they handled it, let's leave it at that. Bravo to them all for keeping a lid on it and not spilling hissy-fits and bitching to the press - that'd damage this film before it had a chance. Maybe conflict's a sign of how passionate they all were about getting this right ;)



I think this is a more than adequate answer to this continuing philosophical debate:


Q. There were stories that described your relationship with director Pete Travis as unorthodox and that you took over in post-production, can you elaborate on this?

At the heart of those stories was a lie that Pete and I had fallen out and that there'd been a disagreement.  There really wasn't. Pete and I never fell out – I met him for coffee a few days ago! We had a very clear, honest working relationship the whole way through and I like the guy a lot. The problem I have with this question, or the issue rather, is that I think it unwittingly polarises a question between me and Pete, and that itself is a deception. What it does is take attention away from people like Jon Thum (VFX Supervisor), Anthony Dod Mantle, who's an award-winning genius cinematographer, who when we're talking about slo-mo, we're talking about him. If this becomes a pissing contest between me and Pete it distracts attention away from Anthony, Jon, Mark Eckersley the editor, the actual editor, Paul Leonard Morgan who wrote the score. I think this happens in film too much anyway, I think there's a lot of bullshit said on how films are made and a lot of bullshit tends to be about taking credit away from these really interesting people who are working in what is fundamentally a collaborative medium. It's a bunch of people working together. I was part of a team, Pete was part of a team and there were also these crucial people I've just mentioned. I'm not trying to be evasive while also clearly being evasive but I just want to reframe the question to what the reality of making the film was. The reality was Anthony Dod Mantle and Jon Thum doing amazing work making slo-mo. It shouldn't be Pete and it shouldn't be me. I don't want the film to be presented as something it is not. It's collaboration.



http://whatculture.com/film/alex-garland-interview-dredd-3d-slo-mo-sequel-ideas-more.php
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 05 September, 2012, 07:18:07 AM
The whole travis/garland  thing is going to rumble on.. no matter how much they deny it, i don't care if they fell out or the relationship was fraught.. i also don't care if they are best mates.. i just want the movie to be good.

on the subject of rumours, who remembers the guy who said that his mate worked at Lionsgate and the re shoots were to tone down the violence because the studio were unhappy with the gore and they were going to release it as a 12A..

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 05 September, 2012, 07:54:08 AM
Quote from: SKD on 04 September, 2012, 06:32:39 PM
Quote from: radiator on 04 September, 2012, 06:11:48 PM
The prequel comic by Matt Smith and Henry Flint is online now: http://www.scribd.com/doc/104439907/DREDD-MA-MA (http://www.scribd.com/doc/104439907/DREDD-MA-MA)

How good does the movie uniform look drawn up by Mr Flint. Fantastic!  :thumbsup:  Please Mighty One, print this in the Prog or the Meg.

Stew.
That's an excellent wee story...I was hoping it was a few pages longer. Superb.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 05 September, 2012, 07:55:31 AM
Q. There were stories that described your relationship with director Pete Travis as unorthodox and that you took over in post-production, can you elaborate on this?

At the heart of those stories was a lie that Pete and I had fallen out and that there'd been a disagreement.  There really wasn't. Pete and I never fell out – I met him for coffee a few days ago! We had a very clear, honest working relationship the whole way through and I like the guy a lot. The problem I have with this question, or the issue rather, is that I think it unwittingly polarises a question between me and Pete, and that itself is a deception. What it does is take attention away from people like Jon Thum (VFX Supervisor), Anthony Dod Mantle, who's an award-winning genius cinematographer, who when we're talking about slo-mo, we're talking about him. If this becomes a pissing contest between me and Pete it distracts attention away from Anthony, Jon, Mark Eckersley the editor, the actual editor, Paul Leonard Morgan who wrote the score. I think this happens in film too much anyway, I think there's a lot of bullshit said on how films are made and a lot of bullshit tends to be about taking credit away from these really interesting people who are working in what is fundamentally a collaborative medium. It's a bunch of people working together. I was part of a team, Pete was part of a team and there were also these crucial people I've just mentioned. I'm not trying to be evasive while also clearly being evasive but I just want to reframe the question to what the reality of making the film was. The reality was Anthony Dod Mantle and Jon Thum doing amazing work making slo-mo. It shouldn't be Pete and it shouldn't be me. I don't want the film to be presented as something it is not. It's collaboration.


http://whatculture.com/film/alex-garland-interview-dredd-3d-slo-mo-sequel-ideas-more.php
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That is one hell of an impressive answer. Nuff said.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 September, 2012, 08:15:26 AM
Total Film did A-Z of Judge Dredd!

http://www.totalfilm.com/features/the-a-z-of-judge-dredd (http://www.totalfilm.com/features/the-a-z-of-judge-dredd)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: oshii on 05 September, 2012, 10:55:45 AM
Very funny from the Daily Mash today:

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/men-torn-between-anna-karenina-and-dredd-3d-2012090540007
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 05 September, 2012, 11:04:25 AM
Quote from: oshii on 05 September, 2012, 10:55:45 AM
Very funny from the Daily Mash today:

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/men-torn-between-anna-karenina-and-dredd-3d-2012090540007

You know, that last line...I really did laugh-out-loud.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 05 September, 2012, 11:52:24 AM
Quote from: oshii on 05 September, 2012, 10:55:45 AM
Very funny from the Daily Mash today:

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/men-torn-between-anna-karenina-and-dredd-3d-2012090540007

Ha ha, that's great.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 05 September, 2012, 12:06:42 PM
And funny also that Domnhall Gleeson is in both!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 05 September, 2012, 05:09:38 PM
 I've heard the Dredd audio trailer five times today on Kerrang! radio. A little bit of La Roux's 'In For The Kill', a little bit of "From the acclaimed comic book..." and a few choice sound bites "Ma-Ma's not the law, I'm the law." The trailers they generally play sound rubbish and usually end in a misplaced scream. For some reason I turned the volume up every time the Dredd one came on, funny that. :D

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 05 September, 2012, 05:26:45 PM
Looks like Dredd might not pull in the punters as expected.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/men-torn-between-anna-karenina-and-dredd-3d-2012090540007 (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/men-torn-between-anna-karenina-and-dredd-3d-2012090540007)

It did hit me today though that its biggest competition will be Lawless, which is looking good and might pull in roughly the same types of casual blokey film-goers. Think it'll still blow it away though (hopefully)!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 September, 2012, 05:27:29 PM
Keef Monkey, it's Spoof website!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 05 September, 2012, 05:31:02 PM
I need the boards advice.

Is it normal for a nearly 42 year old man not to be able to sleep at night because he's so excited about the forthcoming release of Dredd on Friday?

I ask this on behalf of a friend, you understand!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 05 September, 2012, 06:01:21 PM
Nothing wrong with it,Chuck Norris never sleeps either,he just waits ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 05 September, 2012, 06:02:53 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 05 September, 2012, 05:27:29 PM
Keef Monkey, it's Spoof website!

Yeah, its a joke. Does make you think, though. Dredd on one hand, Anna Karenina at the other extreme... Is Lawless (blokely film, but with Tom Hardy for the ladies*) going to be the compromise that wins out for many this weekend?

*i know that's very reductive and sexist, but I'm talking in broad terms.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 05 September, 2012, 06:26:55 PM
Quote from: radiator on 05 September, 2012, 06:02:53 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 05 September, 2012, 05:27:29 PM
Keef Monkey, it's Spoof website!

Yeah, its a joke. Does make you think, though. Dredd on one hand, Anna Karenina at the other extreme... Is Lawless (blokely film, but with Tom Hardy for the ladies*) going to be the compromise that wins out for many this weekend?

*i know that's very reductive and sexist, but I'm talking in broad terms.

That's the one my sister's drawn to, though she is going to see Dredd too (due to my influence). I'm keen on it too though, seeing I just found out its written by Nick Cave! Lawless that is. Heh, so it's "The Law" or Lawless  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 05 September, 2012, 06:55:35 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 05 September, 2012, 06:01:21 PM
Nothing wrong with it,Chuck Norris never sleeps either,he just waits ;)

That's great! I'll let him know!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 05 September, 2012, 06:58:05 PM
It's Chuck,he already knows.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 05 September, 2012, 07:28:31 PM
Quote from: Mudcrab on 05 September, 2012, 06:26:55 PM
Quote from: radiator on 05 September, 2012, 06:02:53 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 05 September, 2012, 05:27:29 PM
Keef Monkey, it's Spoof website!

Yeah, its a joke. Does make you think, though. Dredd on one hand, Anna Karenina at the other extreme... Is Lawless (blokely film, but with Tom Hardy for the ladies*) going to be the compromise that wins out for many this weekend?

*i know that's very reductive and sexist, but I'm talking in broad terms.

That's the one my sister's drawn to, though she is going to see Dredd too (due to my influence). I'm keen on it too though, seeing I just found out its written by Nick Cave! Lawless that is. Heh, so it's "The Law" or Lawless  :D

Yeah, I am keen on Lawless myself thanks to the Cave connection. Only have eyes for one film right now though!

And yeah, I know it was a joke, but if anything it's good publicity because anyone not knowing about Dredd and reading that may well think "hey, that sounds orsum...."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 05 September, 2012, 08:24:54 PM
I saw Lawless yesterday, decent enough fare. Not as good as Hillcoat and Cave's previous film The Proposition and not a patch on The Assassination of Jesse James (a film it appears to be trying to live up to at times but falls wells short of).

It does strike me as a good compromise between Dredd and Anna Kerenina though. Plenty violent too, is Lawless.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 05 September, 2012, 11:19:19 PM
As someone who's not a casual cinema goer It's not a film which stands out. Something in the vain of Dredd would be much more appealing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 05 September, 2012, 11:45:55 PM
I am loving this photo from Santa Monica. 

(https://o.twimg.com/1/proxy.jpg?t=FQQVBBhMaHR0cDovL2Rpc3RpbGxlcnlpbWFnZTMuaW5zdGFncmFtLmNvbS9jZjE3ZTk0NmVkOTAxMWUxOTJhNzIyMDAwYTFlOGIxNF83LmpwZxQCFgASAA&s=KkkrYI5ukTJXfthU3FrUDyYDRYC-0PWaoxF5Oep8u-s)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 September, 2012, 01:31:55 AM
Nice! I would love to see a billboard where I live, but I don't think we even have any. Might get an advert on the side of a bus or something though, but doubt it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 06 September, 2012, 01:32:48 AM
The BBC and Daily Star finally registered an interest but the Star has something new (for me at least).

DREDD SCARY FOR 3D JUDGE STAR KARL URBAN
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/270864/Dredd-scary-for-3D-Judge-star-Karl-Urban/

"When I sat down and watched it back, I recoiled. I think the violence is actually a character in the film.

"Unlike a lot of films that come out where you get desensitised to the violence because you don't really see the impact, you do see the impact the violence has in our film and I think what the writer has done is smart. He's treated the violence the same way Stanley Kubrick would explore those things in Clockwork Orange and it generates a real edge."



Judge Dredd returns, this time with helmet
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-19477994
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 September, 2012, 01:36:52 AM
Less then 48 hours to go!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 06 September, 2012, 02:23:52 AM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 05 September, 2012, 11:45:55 PM
I am loving this photo from Santa Monica. 

(https://o.twimg.com/1/proxy.jpg?t=FQQVBBhMaHR0cDovL2Rpc3RpbGxlcnlpbWFnZTMuaW5zdGFncmFtLmNvbS9jZjE3ZTk0NmVkOTAxMWUxOTJhNzIyMDAwYTFlOGIxNF83LmpwZxQCFgASAA&s=KkkrYI5ukTJXfthU3FrUDyYDRYC-0PWaoxF5Oep8u-s)

No joke, these and these: (http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/DREDD.jpg)

are simply EVERYWHERE in Los Angeles right now...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 06 September, 2012, 02:24:52 AM
(The street sign could be straight out of Mega City 1...)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 06 September, 2012, 03:07:59 AM
Quote from: Stan on 05 September, 2012, 11:19:19 PM
As someone who's not a casual cinema goer It's not a film which stands out. Something in the vain of Dredd would be much more appealing.

Oh I don't know. The trailer seems to reference HBO's current prohibition show Boardwalk Empire as well as stuff like Goodfellas and Once Upon a Time in America. I think it'll draw a crowd, particularly as it has such a strong cast and pedigree. Dredd's being pushed as an ultraviolent boys movie which could go either way (300 or, uh, Centurion).

It'll be interesting to see how Dredd fares. The most important thing is that it's bloody good and that'll do me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 06 September, 2012, 03:09:10 AM
Empire podcast interview with Karl Urban, starts around 40 minutes in.

http://soundcloud.com/empiremagazine/26-august-31-2012-karl-urban (http://soundcloud.com/empiremagazine/26-august-31-2012-karl-urban)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 06 September, 2012, 03:41:43 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 06 September, 2012, 03:07:59 AM
Quote from: Stan on 05 September, 2012, 11:19:19 PM
As someone who's not a casual cinema goer It's not a film which stands out. Something in the vain of Dredd would be much more appealing.

Oh I don't know. The trailer seems to reference HBO's current prohibition show Boardwalk Empire as well as stuff like Goodfellas and Once Upon a Time in America. I think it'll draw a crowd, particularly as it has such a strong cast and pedigree. Dredd's being pushed as an ultraviolent boys movie which could go either way (300 or, uh, Centurion).

It'll be interesting to see how Dredd fares. The most important thing is that it's bloody good and that'll do me.

Yeah. I'm almost as interested in its box office performance as I am in the film itself. I was really talking about my own preference though, concerning Lawless. I'll definitely watch it at some point though. I'm just not what you might call a casual cinema goer so I'm often quite happy waiting for the DVD.

And that last pic's ace.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 06 September, 2012, 03:50:41 AM
Oh I get ya. Yeah Lawless is a decent watch but it wouldn't hurt to wait for the DVD.

I'm gonna see Dredd Saturday afternoon, then probably watch it again (in 2D, hopefully) a couple of weeks later when it comes out here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: auxlen on 06 September, 2012, 09:14:21 AM
odeon liverpool booked for friday. gone the whole premier seating hog...£28. if it wasn't fer dredd i'd be donning my auld man cap and moaning about prices etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 September, 2012, 01:18:12 PM
Advert was in Daily Star today, I nick it from her and scanning it;

(http://i.imgur.com/BnYpM.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 06 September, 2012, 01:31:15 PM
That is a bloody awesome advert!!!

I just bought myself a t-shirt for the showing tomorrow.  I walked past Forbidden Planet and saw it in the window.  I just could not resisit it.  It's the Steve Dillon Dredd on a khaki background - beautiful!

(http://dyn2.media.forbiddenplanet.com/products/91265.jpg.size-600_maxheight-600_square-true.jpg)

It's a medium, one size too small for me, but I WILL FIT INTO IT GRUDDAMIT!!

Yeah, that's the t-shirt I'm wearing to the afternoon showing, then it's my DROKK t-shirt for the evening one.

:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 September, 2012, 01:35:10 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 September, 2012, 01:18:12 PM
Advert was in Daily Star today, I nick it from her and scanning it;

(http://i.imgur.com/BnYpM.jpg)

That is badass!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 06 September, 2012, 01:37:46 PM
Just flicked through a colleagues The Sun (normally I don't touch the rag) and the advert is in there as well. Means it's getting a hell of a lot of ad coverage, with the amount of people that read those papers.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 06 September, 2012, 02:19:02 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 06 September, 2012, 01:31:15 PM
That is a bloody awesome advert!!!

I just bought myself a t-shirt for the showing tomorrow.  I walked past Forbidden Planet and saw it in the window.  I just could not resisit it.  It's the Steve Dillon Dredd on a khaki background - beautiful!

(http://dyn2.media.forbiddenplanet.com/products/91265.jpg.size-600_maxheight-600_square-true.jpg)

It's a medium, one size too small for me, but I WILL FIT INTO IT GRUDDAMIT!!

Yeah, that's the t-shirt I'm wearing to the afternoon showing, then it's my DROKK t-shirt for the evening one.

:D

Oh my, that is nice. Tempted to go and get my own now! I keep telling myself I have enough t-shirts...

Saw the ad this morning too, and thought the "10/10" and "Most badass movie I've ever seen" quotes would get me into the cinema regardless of any other factor. Brilliant ad.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 06 September, 2012, 02:24:16 PM
Great ad. I might buy a tabloid rag for the first time in years.

Cool t-shirt too. I'll have to keep an eye out for that one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Third Estate Ned on 06 September, 2012, 02:29:15 PM
Looking at the list of titles (Front, Nuts, The Daily Star, Loaded, The Sun), it looks like they're aiming at the blokey/lad end of the cinemagoing spectrum in this ad. That's good because it avoids being marginalised as a "comic book movie" and might attract a broader audience.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 06 September, 2012, 02:30:32 PM
I wish I'd known about the Daily Star 2-pager before I went out to the shops :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Third Estate Ned on 06 September, 2012, 02:31:59 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 06 September, 2012, 02:30:32 PM
I wish I'd known about the Daily Star 2-pager before I went out to the shops :(

How's it feel to have your Lawgiver so prominently displayed every day?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 06 September, 2012, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: Third Estate Ned on 06 September, 2012, 02:31:59 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 06 September, 2012, 02:30:32 PM
I wish I'd known about the Daily Star 2-pager before I went out to the shops :(

How's it feel to have your Lawgiver so prominently displayed every day?

Surreal.. Absolutely surreal..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 06 September, 2012, 02:34:39 PM
..and fucking awesome :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Third Estate Ned on 06 September, 2012, 02:41:35 PM
Another thing that's occured to me is the quote "This is the Dredd movie you've been waiting for" might cause people to realise the character has more clout than they believed, and that there are many out there waiting for Dredd to be brought to the screen correctly. Especially given that the quote comes from an established media source (albeit a tits oot lads' rag). Makes them wonder what they've been missing out on, whether they should be in on it and it points beyond Dredd's previous screen incarnation.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 September, 2012, 02:43:22 PM
Wanna knows what really funny is? That Daily Star got different Judge article next to Dredd 3D advert;

(http://i.imgur.com/Pi8TX.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 06 September, 2012, 02:45:42 PM
Well,this time tomorrow I shall be watching it.What a long journey, thought it'd never actually happen...but I CAN'T FUCKING WAIT!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 September, 2012, 02:50:59 PM
Wow, Jock been using my Image links on his tweets. He never says hello, bastard! hehe  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jock on 06 September, 2012, 03:14:00 PM
hello, goaty.

(http://a.yfrog.com/img876/2035/x00esu.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 September, 2012, 03:15:13 PM
 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o I was tweet you yesterday about any Dredd 3D artwork by you, now that's brilliant!!!!!! I love that!

Quote from: jock on 06 September, 2012, 03:14:00 PM
hello, goaty.

(http://a.yfrog.com/img876/2035/x00esu.jpg)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 06 September, 2012, 03:16:17 PM
Big brother's watching, eh?  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bolt-01 on 06 September, 2012, 03:20:54 PM
Heh, bloomin' lurkers...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 September, 2012, 03:24:15 PM
Is that concept art for sequel?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 06 September, 2012, 03:25:41 PM
So with Mr Garland saying he wants Chopper in the next one I'm gonna put two and two toghether and say that's production art for Dredd 2 then  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 06 September, 2012, 03:26:20 PM
ARSOM!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 06 September, 2012, 03:27:18 PM
(and yes I know I'm making 5)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 06 September, 2012, 03:39:48 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 06 September, 2012, 02:30:32 PM
I wish I'd known about the Daily Star 2-pager before I went out to the shops :(

It's alright. There's still some daylight left. They mostly come out at night.

Mostly.. (http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5093/newt2.jpg)

I'll grab one myself. Along with a Bombay Bad Boy if I can find one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 06 September, 2012, 04:30:14 PM
 Karl Urban talking about Dredd on Steve Wright's show, Radio 2 today sometime between 4.30 & 5.00.

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 06 September, 2012, 04:32:24 PM
 He's on now.

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 06 September, 2012, 04:53:30 PM
Ok! Rant time! . . . 'film reviews' on Radio 0ne has given a 3 star rating to Dredd and compared it to The Raid, which apparently did things better!? The reviewer didn't seem to know much about Karls previous film pedigree?! . . . struggling to name the last big film he starred in! Totally incompetent review and poor PR for our movie coming out tomorrow sadly  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 06 September, 2012, 05:00:47 PM
Given that approx. seven people saw The Raid, a lot of these reviews are coming across like knowing film reviewers spewing their stuff out. Typical of late, though. (See also the critical reviews of Brave, because CRITIC KNOWS BEST.)

That said, at least I can see The Raid. Might be giving Dredd a miss, due to there seemingly being no 2D showings anywhere nearby. Gutted. (I can't focus well enough on 3D and it makes Mrs G sick, so that's just great. *sadface*) SFX reported similarly the other day. I genuinely cannot think of a single other 3D film that's had such poor distribution for the 2D print.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 06 September, 2012, 05:01:13 PM
Seeing as Dredd is rated 18, I'm not too bothered that Radio 1 gave it a poor review. Bit like CBBC giving it a bad press, not exactly the target audience...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 06 September, 2012, 05:03:47 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 06 September, 2012, 05:00:47 PMThat said, at least I can see The Raid. Might be giving Dredd a miss, due to there seemingly being no 2D showings anywhere nearby. Gutted. (I can't focus well enough on 3D and it makes Mrs G sick, so that's just great. *sadface*) SFX reported similarly the other day. I genuinely cannot think of a single other 3D film that's had such poor distribution for the 2D print.

Did you check the latest update for 2D screenings?
http://film.list.co.uk/article/45206-dredd-2d-screenings-around-the-uk/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 06 September, 2012, 05:06:30 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 September, 2012, 02:43:22 PM
Wanna knows what really funny is? That Daily Star got different Judge article next to Dredd 3D advert;

Looks like they've got the SJS after him now  :D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-19503922 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-19503922)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2012, 05:14:12 PM
Just picked this up, hence the mark around the pattern before I wash it. It looks amazing close up :D

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/IMAG2947.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 September, 2012, 05:14:41 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2012, 05:14:12 PM
Just picked this up, hence the mark around the pattern before I wash it. It looks amazing close up :D

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/IMAG2947.jpg)

Should have your Mo in same style!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 06 September, 2012, 05:17:20 PM
Where from?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 06 September, 2012, 05:28:11 PM
Quote from: Stan on 06 September, 2012, 05:03:47 PMDid you check the latest update for 2D screenings?
I'd not seen that, but the nearest place is Crawley, which is an hour's drive in perfect traffic, and to an unknown cinema, too. Mrs G was up for seeing the movie and even tried to book tickets, but not when it involves setting off absurdly early, to cater for the M25. It also looks very much like the only places with 2D prints are cinemas that don't have 3D capability. (I'm not thrilled about the prospect of an unknown place either—cinemas vary wildly, and our most local Vue is impossible to deal with for us, with films seemingly out of focus on every screen, and so we drive to one a bit further away.)

The film's distribution [EDIT: and/or venue decisions] is also flirting with discriminatory behaviour, I'd say, given that many people can't deal with 3D films. It's a real pity, but that SFX thread showcases quite a few people are going to stay away, due to not having a choice. Looks like we'll be hanging on until the film ends up as an iTunes rental, and will instead spend the hours this weekend in the sunny weather, which isn't such a bad thing. But, y'know: nuts. I really wanted to support this film: it's Dredd; it's 2000 AD; it's British. Tough, I guess.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 05:29:28 PM
Why don't you paint your face like that gang 'the Judged' did in the film John?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 September, 2012, 05:32:19 PM
Did you get that  T-shirt made or can you buy 'em?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 05:35:56 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 06 September, 2012, 05:28:11 PM
The film's distribution is also flirting with discriminatory behaviour, I'd say, given that many people can't deal with 3D films. It's a real pity, but that SFX thread showcases quite a few people are going to stay away, due to not having a choice.



Isn't that up to the venues/theatres themselves rather than the Distributor?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 06 September, 2012, 05:37:08 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 05:29:28 PM
Why don't you paint your face like that gang 'the Judged' did in the film John?

Paint? Pah! If he was a REAL fan it would be a tattoo.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 06 September, 2012, 05:46:23 PM
on the 3d thing... you should be able to watch a 3d film in 2d if you get two pairs of glasses and pop out the polarising lense for a right eye and replace it with the polarising lense for the left and vice-versa. I think, in theory.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge cooper on 06 September, 2012, 05:47:04 PM
how bad is the film meant to be? (as in violence etc...)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 September, 2012, 05:47:36 PM
Just take the glasses off? The only difference is I think the background will be blurry. And only in parts.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 06 September, 2012, 05:49:13 PM
Quote from: judge cooper on 06 September, 2012, 05:47:04 PM
how bad is the film meant to be? (as in violence etc...)
I think the word is 'sublime'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 06 September, 2012, 05:49:39 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 05:35:56 PMIsn't that up to the venues/theatres themselves rather than the Distributor?
Possibly, although I've no idea what deals have been made. Reportedly, Vue is essentially claiming there is no 2D print to people who call, whereas Cineworld simply says it knows of it but has no plans to show it in most places. Showcase is the same. I guess as of tomorrow, time to bow out of every Dredd movie thread and wait until the film shows up on iTunes, to avoid those spoilers. (I think what irks most is our local Vue's still showing Brave in 2D and 3D, but there's apparently no room for any Dredd 2D showings.)

Quote from: MR. ELIMINATORJust take the glasses off? The only difference is I think the background will be blurry. And only in parts.
I've heard similar comments elsewhere, but they vary between people saying "you can still watch a 3D film without glasses just fine" and "it'll turn into a horrible blurry mess—don't do it". I guess it's down to the actual film, but it's certainly not something I'm going to risk 20 quid on.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge cooper on 06 September, 2012, 05:51:24 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 06 September, 2012, 05:49:13 PM
Quote from: judge cooper on 06 September, 2012, 05:47:04 PM
how bad is the film meant to be? (as in violence etc...)
I think the word is 'sublime'.
ok sublime then
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 06 September, 2012, 05:54:41 PM
It dwells upon violence and shows it in all it's horror and beauty: think of a trippy anatomy lesson.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 05:56:36 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 06 September, 2012, 05:49:39 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 05:35:56 PMIsn't that up to the venues/theatres themselves rather than the Distributor?
Possibly, although I've no idea what deals have been made. Reportedly, Vue is essentially claiming there is no 2D print to people who call, whereas Cineworld simply says it knows of it but has no plans to show it in most places.




Cineworld in Dublin have one 2D showing a day so I think it's pretty much up to who's managing each theatre what way they present it. 3D will bring in more money so that's what they're mostly going for.



Quote from: MR. ELIMINATORJust take the glasses off? The only difference is I think the background will be blurry. And only in parts.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 06 September, 2012, 05:49:39 PMI've heard similar comments elsewhere, but they vary between people saying "you can still watch a 3D film without glasses just fine" and "it'll turn into a horrible blurry mess—don't do it". I guess it's down to the actual film, but it's certainly not something I'm going to risk 20 quid on.


I watched Prometheus and Spiderman mostly witout the glasses, there was little difference.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 06 September, 2012, 05:57:05 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 06 September, 2012, 04:53:30 PM
Ok! Rant time! . . . 'film reviews' on Radio 0ne has given a 3 star rating to Dredd and compared it to The Raid, which apparently did things better!? The reviewer didn't seem to know much about Karls previous film pedigree?! . . . struggling to name the last big film he starred in! Totally incompetent review and poor PR for our movie coming out tomorrow sadly  :(

Who gives a flying fuck what Radio One thinks? They employed Chris Moyles.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 05:57:39 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 06 September, 2012, 05:54:41 PM
It dwells upon violence and shows it in all it's horror and beauty: think of a trippy anatomy lesson.

Having said that, there's isn't that much 'gore'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge cooper on 06 September, 2012, 05:58:14 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 06 September, 2012, 05:54:41 PM
It dwells upon violence and shows it in all it's horror and beauty: think of a trippy anatomy lesson.
thanks. after the last one, I didn't think it would be an 18, I was looking forward to it as well
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 06 September, 2012, 06:04:23 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 05:56:36 PM
I watched Prometheus and Spiderman mostly witout the glasses, there was little difference.

I was gonna say, I didn't notice much difference with Prometheus either. I find cinema screens aren't very sharp at the best of times so I don't expect much on that score. Still a gamble though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2012, 06:13:31 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 September, 2012, 05:32:19 PM
Did you get that  T-shirt made or can you buy 'em?

I had a couple made ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 06 September, 2012, 06:15:45 PM
Quote from: judge cooper on 06 September, 2012, 05:47:04 PM
how bad is the film meant to be? (as in violence etc...)

I was all built up for some really extreme gore, but it wasn't as bad as I was expecting. Now, I'm not saying it was Balamory. It is bloody gory - but beautifully so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge cooper on 06 September, 2012, 06:17:13 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 06 September, 2012, 06:15:45 PM
Quote from: judge cooper on 06 September, 2012, 05:47:04 PM
how bad is the film meant to be? (as in violence etc...)

I was all built up for some really extreme gore, but it wasn't as bad as I was expecting. Now, I'm not saying it was Balamory. It is bloody gory - but beautifully so.
suitable 18 certificate then?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 06 September, 2012, 06:17:39 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 06 September, 2012, 06:15:45 PM
Quote from: judge cooper on 06 September, 2012, 05:47:04 PM
how bad is the film meant to be? (as in violence etc...)

I was all built up for some really extreme gore, but it wasn't as bad as I was expecting. Now, I'm not saying it was Balamory. It is bloody gory - but beautifully so.

I dunno..PC Plum can be pretty vicious...he'd make a great Judge..

Judge Plum...Hmmmmm
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 06:23:07 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 06 September, 2012, 06:15:45 PM
I was all built up for some really extreme gore, but it wasn't as bad as I was expecting. Now, I'm not saying it was Balamory. It is bloody gory - but beautifully so.


Especially that last [spoiler]MA-MA[/spoiler] shot. How good was that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 06 September, 2012, 06:25:59 PM
Quote from: judge cooper on 06 September, 2012, 06:17:13 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 06 September, 2012, 06:15:45 PM
Quote from: judge cooper on 06 September, 2012, 05:47:04 PM
how bad is the film meant to be? (as in violence etc...)

I was all built up for some really extreme gore, but it wasn't as bad as I was expecting. Now, I'm not saying it was Balamory. It is bloody gory - but beautifully so.
suitable 18 certificate then?

See, I was thinking it could probably squeeze a 15... but on balance, yeah, I think it does.

QuoteEspecially that last [spoiler]MA-MA [/spoiler]shot. How good was that.

Yup - astounding stuff! Need to see it again!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 September, 2012, 06:52:18 PM
I actually quite look forward to seeing what else they do with promoting it after I have seen it. For the US release.

Not as much as actually seeing it of course.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 06 September, 2012, 07:00:46 PM
It wasn't as gruesome as I was expecting - compared to a main character getting torn apart in Shaun of the Dead, I don't think there's much worse than that, different context and everything.

I think maybe I've been ruined by reading bits of 'Crossed'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Durendal on 06 September, 2012, 07:28:28 PM
Didn't see this posted yet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgZrtoQ40Jw
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 06 September, 2012, 07:29:36 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2012, 06:13:31 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 September, 2012, 05:32:19 PM
Did you get that  T-shirt made or can you buy 'em?

I had a couple made ;)

Suspected IP infringement, you had better hand yourself in at the nearest sector house CF. I also think you should give the T-shirts over to me, for evidence. ;)

SKD (Wally Squad.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2012, 07:31:34 PM
Damn! It's Titan for me :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 September, 2012, 08:42:38 PM
WOW! this is my favourite trailer so far. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZvfAYdn4DA&feature=g-u-u
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 September, 2012, 08:46:15 PM
but seriously, what is going on with the changes in his voice? Was it like that in the film?

The "you betray the law, you betray the city" in this one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2012, 08:51:12 PM
Don't watch that clip too closely as it shows another death that it shouldn't ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 06 September, 2012, 08:54:05 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2012, 08:51:12 PM
Don't watch that clip too closely as it shows another death that it shouldn't ::)
Cheers CF  dodged that spoiler, tempting as it is.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 September, 2012, 08:59:44 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 06 September, 2012, 08:54:05 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2012, 08:51:12 PM
Don't watch that clip too closely as it shows another death that it shouldn't ::)
Cheers CF  dodged that spoiler, tempting as it is.




V

Seriously you should watch it, it's different from the other trailers, has cool rock music instead of La Roux. Totally badass.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: philt on 06 September, 2012, 09:01:29 PM
And before anyone starts pouting, this just a quick word to say that the lead up to this has been one helluva a ride. The threads on the movie have been an essential daily read. I think they are something the contributors can take enormous credit and the guys from Rebellion treating the threads with lightness of touch I doubt you'd get with many other organisations who had a film coming out featuring its most bankable character. Can you imagine an official DC or Marvel board letting an equivalent threads go without the scissors being deployed? No me neither.

Anyway it's been a blast gentlemen. And as for the big day itself tomorrow? I cannot wait.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2012, 09:02:13 PM
Put the clip in the spoiler review thread and then people who want to see certain things will. This shows one of the stand out deaths from the whole film!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 06 September, 2012, 09:04:21 PM
There is definitely a helluva party atmosphere on here on par with the likes of new years eve.. I've never experienced that before.. It's fan-bloody-tastic!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 09:07:35 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2012, 08:51:12 PM
Don't watch that clip too closely as it shows another death that it shouldn't ::)



Which death does it spoil that hasn't all ready featured in the previous trailers?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 06 September, 2012, 09:07:51 PM
Agree, kickass trailer! - and the voice doesn't bother me one bit, since depending on how loudly you're speaking and so on, everyone's voice changes. If they dubbed over it for the movie, no problem; if they didn't, still no problem.

The night before seeing Dredd with the awesome feedback from everyone who have seen it? - there is absolutely no problem with anything anywhere. My world is shiny.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2012, 09:14:28 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 09:07:35 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2012, 08:51:12 PM
Don't watch that clip too closely as it shows another death that it shouldn't ::)
Which death does it spoil that hasn't all ready featured in the previous trailers?

DO NOT READ! [spoiler]Ma Ma's No1 being given a gentle shove over the edge![/spoiler] DO NOT READ!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 06 September, 2012, 09:17:46 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2012, 09:02:13 PM
Put the clip in the spoiler review thread and then people who want to see certain things will. This shows one of the stand out deaths from the whole film!

Except, of course, we wouldn't have known it was a fucking spoiler if you hadn't pointed that out, would we?

Bah.

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 06 September, 2012, 09:19:48 PM
New TV ad! New footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZvfAYdn4DA
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2012, 09:21:20 PM
I'm sure your clinical eye would have picked up on it, seeing as everyone is devouring these trailers and clips frame by frame!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 September, 2012, 09:21:45 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 06 September, 2012, 09:19:48 PM
New TV ad! New footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZvfAYdn4DA

It's been posted twice, and spoilered! 10 years to the cubes, creep!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 06 September, 2012, 09:24:36 PM
STOP FIGHTING! You're RUINING Dreddmas!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 06 September, 2012, 09:28:15 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 06 September, 2012, 09:24:36 PM
STOP FIGHTING! You're RUINING Dreddmas!

It wouldn't be Dreddmas without a fight!

Actually, all this talk of Christmas reminds me of the story in one of the 2000AD annuals where Dredd locks himself and everyone at a party(if my old memory serves me correctly?) up over Christmas for breaching the peace!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 06 September, 2012, 09:31:51 PM
You could end up being visited by the diminutive 'ghost of Dreddmas past', who waves his cod-peice around and shouts incoherently...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 06 September, 2012, 09:38:30 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 September, 2012, 08:46:15 PM
but seriously, what is going on with the changes in his voice? Was it like that in the film?

The "you betray the law, you betray the city" in this one.

I'm pretty sure it wasn't

[spoiler]I think it was in the speech over the intercom, and was different - I guess they used the different take for clarity.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 09:41:28 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2012, 09:14:28 PM

DO NOT READ! [spoiler]Ma Ma's No1 being given a gentle shove over the edge![/spoiler] DO NOT READ!


That was shown in the first TV Spot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2qI_VDXQyY) CF. Faulty Judgement sign yourself in for re-evaluation.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2012, 09:49:44 PM
Ah well, everyone can relax then. I must have missed that spot with everything that has been going on. Mr Wells can vouch for how awkward my viewings of all these clips have been, with a monster on his iPad seated behind me  :lol:
Mr Wells isn't the monster but he has heard the monster when I've been on the phone to him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 06 September, 2012, 09:51:04 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 September, 2012, 09:21:45 PM
It's been posted twice, and spoilered! 10 years to the cubes, creep!

You're late in spotting the block names.  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2012, 09:49:44 PM
Ah well, everyone can relax then. I must have missed that spot with everything that has been going on. Mr Wells can vouch for how awkward my viewings of all these clips have been, with a monster on his iPad seated behind me  :lol:
Mr Wells isn't the monster but he has heard the monster when I've been on the phone to him.



Ah cadets these days.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 06 September, 2012, 09:59:33 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 06 September, 2012, 09:51:04 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 September, 2012, 09:21:45 PM
It's been posted twice, and spoilered! 10 years to the cubes, creep!

You're late in spotting the block names.  :)

If that's Atlantic Tower then I can only assume it's a nod to me since we have one in Liverpool. :cool:

I'm sure I'm not reaching. :cool:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 10:00:06 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 06 September, 2012, 09:51:04 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 September, 2012, 09:21:45 PM
It's been posted twice, and spoilered! 10 years to the cubes, creep!

You're late in spotting the block names.  :)


Rowdy yates, Tome Frame, Atlantic Towers.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 10:00:23 PM
or Tom, rather.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 06 September, 2012, 10:02:27 PM
Twas the night before Dreddmas, when all through the land,
The reviews were great, and the feeling was grand.
The tickets were pre-booked online with great care,
In the hopes of a treat, of a kind that is rare.

The boarder were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of 'slo-mo' scenes danced in their heads.
For Mam-ma and Anderson, Dredd: all await,
And blood will be spattered, and it will be great.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 06 September, 2012, 10:06:17 PM
Is this new?? https://www.facebook.com/efdfilms/app_381632838559179
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 September, 2012, 10:07:18 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 06 September, 2012, 10:06:17 PM
Is this new?? https://www.facebook.com/efdfilms/app_381632838559179

That's first for UK!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 September, 2012, 10:12:06 PM
How ironic... guess what big film on 9pm at FilmFour tomorrow night?

District 9!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 06 September, 2012, 10:15:48 PM
Just saw a new short trailer on E4, with some of the best review quotes added :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 06 September, 2012, 10:22:37 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 06 September, 2012, 10:15:48 PM
Just saw a new short trailer on E4, with some of the best review quotes added :)

Still think they should've gone with Goaty's "FUCKING BRILLIANT FILM"!! :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 10:24:11 PM
I want to see ARSOM! on a billboard.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 September, 2012, 10:26:20 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 06 September, 2012, 10:22:37 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 06 September, 2012, 10:15:48 PM
Just saw a new short trailer on E4, with some of the best review quotes added :)

Still think they should've gone with Goaty's "FUCKING BRILLIANT FILM"!! :lol:

Well it really "FUCKING AWESOME BRILLIANT FILM"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 10:34:54 PM
Another new international TV ad:


http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=94483
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 10:37:34 PM
BUDDA BUDDA
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 September, 2012, 10:43:05 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 10:37:34 PM
BUDDA BUDDA

Stupid question, but I see that many times, what the HELL it means?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2012, 10:45:22 PM
It's the sound of gunfire and mostly when the Lawmaster is firing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 September, 2012, 10:47:13 PM
OOh it's hearing talk!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 06 September, 2012, 10:49:04 PM
FADOOM


Is a personal favourite of mine!

The clips are Drokking immense!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 11:00:55 PM
If the Possession can get $21 million in its opening weekend, I have hope.


http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=25974&count=0
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 11:02:58 PM
and it has a 38% rating on RT:



http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_possession/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 06 September, 2012, 11:08:47 PM
Horror film: looks a bit like the exorcist or something... I can see why it would be popular with the average Joe ...um...'public'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: esoteric ed on 06 September, 2012, 11:11:18 PM

QuoteBUDDA BUDDA

QuoteFADOOM



"CHAKA CHAKA CHAKA KHAN, CHAKA KHAN"

This one always stuck in my mind (so I made a Facebook banner from it)  :)

Ed
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 11:12:19 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 06 September, 2012, 11:08:47 PM
Joe ...um...'public'.



That'd be my cousin John Q.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 06 September, 2012, 11:32:17 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2012, 11:00:55 PM
If the Possession can get $21 million in its opening weekend, I have hope.


http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=25974&count=0

Yeah, the masses seem to lap that stuff up though. Any horror movie that doesn't look particularly scary or interesting seems to get the neddier folks a bit excited for some reason. It only seems to apply to bad horror films though, no-one seems to go and see the good ones.

Was just browsing Xbox Live and there's a little Dredd thumbnail on the marketplace, clicking on it plays the trailer. A very savvy place to advertise I reckon. Needless to say I watched the trailer. Again.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: esoteric ed on 07 September, 2012, 12:01:23 AM
JUDGEMENT DAY HAS ARRIVED, enjoy the movie folks and I hope it's all you wish for  :) :thumbsup:


Ed
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 07 September, 2012, 12:30:03 AM
I'll be seeing DREDD 3D on Saturday evening so please refrain from any mention of it on this forum until then.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 07 September, 2012, 12:33:34 AM
Maybe people who go early can comment on the picture minus specs? I'm not going til 19:00.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 07 September, 2012, 12:35:00 AM
When I started work tonight someone had left the Daily Star on one of the tables, so I acquired it, so I could find that add. I'm now sat at a store in London and just turned to the centre pages to see a DOUBLE PAGE DREDD article. Get the DROKK IN :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 07 September, 2012, 12:44:59 AM
Quote from: Stan on 07 September, 2012, 12:33:34 AM
Maybe people who go early can comment on the picture minus specs? I'm not going til 19:00.
If you fear spoiler...keep away from the boards! seriously the only downside, for me, of seeing it ,-was that I'd been picking hungrily at every scrap and didn't go in fresh.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 07 September, 2012, 12:57:40 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 07 September, 2012, 12:35:00 AM
When I started work tonight someone had left the Daily Star on one of the tables, so I acquired it, so I could find that add. I'm now sat at a store in London and just turned to the centre pages to see a DOUBLE PAGE DREDD article. Get the DROKK IN :D

Thanks! I didn't even bother reading past the advert. I'll check it out.

Quote from: darnmarr on 07 September, 2012, 12:44:59 AM
Quote from: Stan on 07 September, 2012, 12:33:34 AM
Maybe people who go early can comment on the picture minus specs? I'm not going til 19:00.
If you fear spoiler...keep away from the boards! seriously the only downside, for me, of seeing it ,-was that I'd been picking hungrily at every scrap and didn't go in fresh.

:)

What I meant was that maybe they could comment on the picture quality without the glasses on. Just in case the blur is subtle. Personally I'm more concerned with sound quality than picture quality and 2Ders may feel it's worth seeing until another option becomes available.

Though I suppose you have to factor in the quality of different cinemas.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 07 September, 2012, 01:33:18 AM
As predicted, the Mail screws up the Rotten score.  :lol:

Judge Dreadful: He's the crime fighter who makes Dirty Harry look namby-pamby, but behind the stylish looks the new Judge Dredd is anything but comic
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-2199563/Judge-Dreadful-Hes-crime-fighter-makes-Dirty-Harry-look-namby-pamby-stylish-looks-new-Judge-Dredd-comic.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 September, 2012, 02:21:40 AM
Argh can't sleep!!!

Quote from: Stan on 07 September, 2012, 01:33:18 AM
As predicted, the Mail screws up the Rotten score.  :lol:

Judge Dreadful: He's the crime fighter who makes Dirty Harry look namby-pamby, but behind the stylish looks the new Judge Dredd is anything but comic
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-2199563/Judge-Dreadful-Hes-crime-fighter-makes-Dirty-Harry-look-namby-pamby-stylish-looks-new-Judge-Dredd-comic.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

They count as a critic on RT?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 September, 2012, 02:28:31 AM
Apparently we read folios instead of comics as kids.


Tookey can go Fookey himself.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 07 September, 2012, 02:52:08 AM
Right I've been to bed like a good little juve and woke up on Dreddmass to find out

A. Santas not been yet (blown out of the sky for flying without a licence?)

B. it's two a fucking clock in the morning

Argh when can I open my prezzies?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 07 September, 2012, 03:02:21 AM
Check out who's on the Empire cinema page of Facebook...

http://www.facebook.com/EmpireCinemasLeicesterSquare
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HdE on 07 September, 2012, 04:41:56 AM
Quote from: Stan on 07 September, 2012, 01:33:18 AM
As predicted, the Mail screws up the Rotten score.  :lol:

Judge Dreadful: He's the crime fighter who makes Dirty Harry look namby-pamby, but behind the stylish looks the new Judge Dredd is anything but comic
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-2199563/Judge-Dreadful-Hes-crime-fighter-makes-Dirty-Harry-look-namby-pamby-stylish-looks-new-Judge-Dredd-comic.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

BAN HIS SICK FILTH!

I am, however, secure in the knowledge that anybody with more than a pair of functional brain cells is fully aware of what an almighty waste of space the Mail's film reviews are. Mealy-mouthed media propaganda of the lowest order.

ENJOY THE MOVIE, CHUMS AND PALS!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 07 September, 2012, 05:46:57 AM
RottenToms is still at 100% with 24 reviews.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Third Estate Ned on 07 September, 2012, 09:36:34 AM
Quote from: HdE on 07 September, 2012, 04:41:56 AM
Quote from: Stan on 07 September, 2012, 01:33:18 AM
As predicted, the Mail screws up the Rotten score.  :lol:

Judge Dreadful: He's the crime fighter who makes Dirty Harry look namby-pamby, but behind the stylish looks the new Judge Dredd is anything but comic
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-2199563/Judge-Dreadful-Hes-crime-fighter-makes-Dirty-Harry-look-namby-pamby-stylish-looks-new-Judge-Dredd-comic.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

BAN HIS SICK FILTH!

I am, however, secure in the knowledge that anybody with more than a pair of functional brain cells is fully aware of what an almighty waste of space the Mail's film reviews are. Mealy-mouthed media propaganda of the lowest order.

ENJOY THE MOVIE, CHUMS AND PALS!

I thought they would appreciate a vision of a world where the death penalty is reinstated.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 09:51:27 AM
What I am pretty disgusted about is the complete and utter lack of any news about the movie what-so-ever on South African news websites. Swines..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chaingunchimp on 07 September, 2012, 09:54:47 AM
aggh only 11hrs untill DREDD, bustin to see this film!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 07 September, 2012, 10:19:41 AM
Concept art from Framestore
http://framestoreart.com/

(http://framestoreart.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/2012_09_05_dredd61.jpg)
(http://framestoreart.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/2012_09_05_dredd52.jpg)
(http://framestoreart.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/2012_09_05_dredd111.jpg)
(http://framestoreart.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/2012_09_05_dredd21.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 07 September, 2012, 10:22:51 AM
That's some amazing stuff, the Lawmaster looks MEAN! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 September, 2012, 10:26:55 AM
Looks amazing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 10:27:39 AM
Geez... Been aaaaages since I saw those last (may 2010?)..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 September, 2012, 10:34:21 AM
You can see how the Lawmaster didn't quite come out the way they wanted, nonetheless, it's a solid design concept using the basic look of the Victory Vision prototype bike as a starting point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 07 September, 2012, 10:34:52 AM
Only 4 hours until I see the film again!!  Excited!  Doing my work colleagues heads in as well.  hehe.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 September, 2012, 10:40:11 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 September, 2012, 10:34:21 AM
You can see how the Lawmaster didn't quite come out the way they wanted, nonetheless, it's a solid design concept using the basic look of the Victory Vision prototype bike as a starting point.

Yeah, if it had been closer to the concept, I would have liked it more.

I think the cannons work better lifted higher and there seems a bit more detail in that cowling, also prefer the more angular look to it than the swoosh, as well as it being a bit shinier.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 10:44:17 AM
One of my concepts had the cannons up further, which had the receiver above the cut out in the fairing.. But this works for keeping the rounds low to the tyres I suppose.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 September, 2012, 11:04:16 AM
Yeah, I don't know about the practicalities (above being able to shoot out tyres) I just think they break up the cowling a lot better when they're mounted higher - I would have been quite happy to see a bit more detail there in the way of lights as well.

Hope there's a chance to tweak the design though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 11:06:05 AM
I'm sure it'll be addressed in the sequel :)

(assumption..)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 September, 2012, 11:17:00 AM
You'd better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 11:18:32 AM
I highly doubt that'll happen  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 September, 2012, 11:18:44 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 07 September, 2012, 10:40:11 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 September, 2012, 10:34:21 AM
You can see how the Lawmaster didn't quite come out the way they wanted, nonetheless, it's a solid design concept using the basic look of the Victory Vision prototype bike as a starting point.

Yeah, if it had been closer to the concept, I would have liked it more.

I think the cannons work better lifted higher and there seems a bit more detail in that cowling, also prefer the more angular look to it than the swoosh, as well as it being a bit shinier.


Yeah it needed to look a little more 'plated'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 11:19:58 AM
In all fairness, the movie isn't about the bikes.. It's a glimpse of what they are/could be..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 11:40:06 AM
Thousands of people to see my "Goaty" on the screen... ooh why that freaking me out?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 11:42:51 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 11:40:06 AM
Thousands of people to see my "Goaty" on the screen... ooh why that freaking me out?

'cos you'll get some time in the cubes for indecent exposure?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 07 September, 2012, 12:07:41 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 11:40:06 AM
Thousands of people to see my "Goaty" on the screen... ooh why that freaking me out?
Price of fame: the public own you now, and I have no  sympathy for you celebrity-types...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 07 September, 2012, 12:19:59 PM
I liked the bike in the end. I was one of those who didn't judge it based on the leaked shot, because I know the difference a bit of cinematic smoke and mirrors makes.

I agree that yeah, it could have looked a little better, but it did the job, and crucially as with the uniform it didn't look out of place in the near-future setting.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 07 September, 2012, 12:25:25 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 07 September, 2012, 12:44:59 AM
Quote from: Stan on 07 September, 2012, 12:33:34 AM
Maybe people who go early can comment on the picture minus specs? I'm not going til 19:00.
If you fear spoiler...keep away from the boards! seriously the only downside, for me, of seeing it ,-was that I'd been picking hungrily at every scrap and didn't go in fresh.
I meant was that maybe they could comment on the picture quality without the glasses on...
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This  is what reading 'minus specs' as 'minus specific details' will get you :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 07 September, 2012, 12:30:54 PM
Quote from: HdE on 07 September, 2012, 04:41:56 AM
Quote from: Stan on 07 September, 2012, 01:33:18 AM
As predicted, the Mail screws up the Rotten score.  :lol:

Judge Dreadful: He's the crime fighter who makes Dirty Harry look namby-pamby, but behind the stylish looks the new Judge Dredd is anything but comic
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-2199563/Judge-Dreadful-Hes-crime-fighter-makes-Dirty-Harry-look-namby-pamby-stylish-looks-new-Judge-Dredd-comic.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

BAN HIS SICK FILTH!

Whats funny is the long list of comments below, not one poster backs him, nobody believes him, so perhaps a 'good' review for us after all.


I am, however, secure in the knowledge that anybody with more than a pair of functional brain cells is fully aware of what an almighty waste of space the Mail's film reviews are. Mealy-mouthed media propaganda of the lowest order.

ENJOY THE MOVIE, CHUMS AND PALS!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 07 September, 2012, 01:10:40 PM
QuoteYeah, the masses seem to lap that stuff up though. Any horror movie that doesn't look particularly scary or interesting seems to get the neddier folks a bit excited for some reason. It only seems to apply to bad horror films though, no-one seems to go and see the good ones.

That's so true isn't it?

I also wonder if there's a crossover between the audience of those terrible-looking horror films (generally based on demonic possession or ghosts), and the idiots who actually believe in the supernatural?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 01:18:57 PM
525 pages, I will miss this thread! x
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 07 September, 2012, 01:21:42 PM
No Dredd branded glasses in Cardiff Cineworld but I do have my tickets in hand. Not sure how busy they are supposed to be on a Friday lunchtime but there was definite traffic and all for Dredd. Zarjaz
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 01:22:19 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 07 September, 2012, 01:21:42 PM
No Dredd branded glasses in Cardiff Cineworld but I do have my tickets in hand. Not sure how busy they are supposed to be on a Friday lunchtime but there was definite traffic and all for Dredd. Zarjaz

What? queue for Dredd??? Awesome!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 07 September, 2012, 01:25:45 PM
Not a queue but definite activity.  There isn't a showing for over an hour tho I think so I was surprised.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 07 September, 2012, 01:32:08 PM
That's really good to hear. I know reviews don't tend to affect things one way or the other, but I'd love to see the positive reviews sinking in to the public consciousness and turning into box office receipts.

The film is going to be a lot easier to sell worldwide if it's as "The Number 1 UK Smash Hit!!!"...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 01:39:47 PM
CF would like this;

http://www.scifinow.co.uk/interviews/dredds-karl-urban-talks-firearms-training-and-bulking-up/ (http://www.scifinow.co.uk/interviews/dredds-karl-urban-talks-firearms-training-and-bulking-up/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Martin Jameson on 07 September, 2012, 01:56:38 PM
Just got back from seeing it for the second time! Even better on second viewing - saw bits I missed the first time. And my wife absolutely loved it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 01:59:23 PM
Was it busy?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 07 September, 2012, 02:04:25 PM
"Citizen Tookey, you have been found guilty of being a rubbish film reviewer with the writing skills of a cursed earth rat. The sentence is writing for the Mail."

If anyone on this board is responsible for that comment on the DM review, I salute you!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Martin Jameson on 07 September, 2012, 02:05:21 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 01:59:23 PM
Was it busy?

I didn't expect many for a 11am showing but there was 20 or 30 there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 02:07:23 PM
This article sums up my feelings too http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/09/05/blog-dredd-one-too-many-ds-in-the-title/

For those of us who can't see it it's bloody frustrating to see so much focus on this gimmick.

I just won't get to see this until a DVD release and i'm one of the core demographic for it.  Bloody shame.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 07 September, 2012, 02:11:53 PM
just got back watched at Vue cinema in Edinburgh OMNI  in 3d , first ever 3d movie
only 15-20 people there for first  viewing ..went for good seat
Karl is  Dredd , hes good ....enjoyed movie ....
had a good gritty feel to it   
lapses in the middle slightly
shame there wasnt more mega city people and effects...

i left the cinema thinking  that this is the intro to another movie  hope  not another 30 years 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 02:13:46 PM
All the sadder that at this time where disability is in the spotlight a major movie release has been delivered in a way that excludes a huge number of people with eye disability.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 02:14:10 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 02:07:23 PM
This article sums up my feelings too http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/09/05/blog-dredd-one-too-many-ds-in-the-title/

For those of us who can't see it it's bloody frustrating to see so much focus on this gimmick.

I just won't get to see this until a DVD release and i'm one of the core demographic for it.  Bloody shame.

There are 2D screenings too..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 September, 2012, 02:15:58 PM
Can't remember where I read it, but there would be more 3D showings initially, then 2D would be more common.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 02:22:36 PM
Thera re just 29 2d screenings in the UK at the moment  http://film.list.co.uk/article/45206-dredd-2d-scree nings-around-the-uk/

They need to increase that massively is they're to be inclusive and ensure this doesn't cut into the positive buzz.  It doesn't just affect a handful of people.  Those who can't and those who won't combined are a lot of people.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 07 September, 2012, 02:48:01 PM
seen it at the 10:20am showing, about 35 people there... not bad going for a friday, on a work day straight after breakfast.

couple of minor gripes, but it's really entertaining... welled up a bit at the beginning(yeah sad twat).. because it looks like the film i'd dreamed of.. came out of the cinema grinning.. canny good like
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: rog on 07 September, 2012, 04:04:08 PM
Just seen it in 3D, Urban kicks ass :D

Blooming great!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 04:11:09 PM
Awesome!!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2MrRjvCcAA_pal.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 07 September, 2012, 04:13:14 PM
Ha, that's brilliant!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 07 September, 2012, 04:20:55 PM
On a still gloriously sunny day, ive just got back from seeing Dredd in 3D -   :thumbsup:
Sorted.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 04:34:03 PM
My envy metre is going through the roof.

Unblind bastards the lot of you  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 07 September, 2012, 04:39:06 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 04:11:09 PM
Awesome!!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2MrRjvCcAA_pal.jpg:large)

That pic great!
Going to use that as my timeline pic 8-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 September, 2012, 04:55:12 PM
I love that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 07 September, 2012, 05:19:44 PM
Quote from: W. R. Logan on 07 September, 2012, 04:39:06 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 04:11:09 PM
Awesome!!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2MrRjvCcAA_pal.jpg:large)

That pic great!
Going to use that as my timeline pic 8-)


Fantastic work AGAIN Goaty!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 07 September, 2012, 05:34:49 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 07 September, 2012, 02:15:58 PMCan't remember where I read it, but there would be more 3D showings initially, then 2D would be more common.
Vue and Showcase have said they have no plans to show it at all. Odeon had it listed in one cinema. Judging from the lists available online, the only places showing it in 2D are often cinemas that aren't showing any 3D films, so presumably they don't have the capability. I hope that the film does really well and we see some 2D prints, but I've a feeling I'll be eagerly waiting for Dredd to show up on iTunes as a rental in a few months.

Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 02:22:36 PMThey need to increase that massively is they're to be inclusive and ensure this doesn't cut into the positive buzz.  It doesn't just affect a handful of people.  Those who can't and those who won't combined are a lot of people.
I imagine in reality it won't make that much difference, but it is frustrating. My Twitter feed earlier today was full of replies from people who are 10-, 20- or 30-year Dredd fans, but who literally cannot see in 3D, or who have dizziness issues that means they can't watch 3D films. Doing a Twitter search for 'Dredd 2D' was even more enlightening, with a constant stream of complaints, suggestions that Kermode should complain about this on radio, and questions to cinema chains (who aren't saying much) about the possibility of a few 2D showings.

Here's hoping Dredd makes a bundle of cash, and any sequel that's greenlit is big enough that there will be a choice for those who need it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 07 September, 2012, 05:36:36 PM
WOW just got back after seein dredd and its brilliant,1st up for a 2am showing it was very busy which was fantastic there was a big group of noisey teens at the back and i thought here we go there gunna ruin this for me but once the movie started the room was dead silent because the movie`s that good or dredd scared the shit outa them haha, carl urban is amazing as dredd he is a badass in the movie and olivia thirlby is great as anderson as well and as for lena headey as mama thats 1 sick bitch haha she is great the plot is gripping the music score is fantastic film of the year for me i cant say enough good things about it and all on $45mil budget WOW im so happy after being sooo let down as a kid back in 95 when i went to see that other movie it doesnt deserve to be called judge dredd,the movie i just watched is the only movie to lay claim as to being a dredd movie its THE dredd movie i really hope it does well at the box office it deserves to and if it does fingers crossed we get sequel if not never mind at least were left with a great movie  :thumbsup: 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 05:42:54 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 07 September, 2012, 05:34:49 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 07 September, 2012, 02:15:58 PMCan't remember where I read it, but there would be more 3D showings initially, then 2D would be more common.
Vue and Showcase have said they have no plans to show it at all. Odeon had it listed in one cinema. Judging from the lists available online, the only places showing it in 2D are often cinemas that aren't showing any 3D films, so presumably they don't have the capability. I hope that the film does really well and we see some 2D prints, but I've a feeling I'll be eagerly waiting for Dredd to show up on iTunes as a rental in a few months.

Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 02:22:36 PMThey need to increase that massively is they're to be inclusive and ensure this doesn't cut into the positive buzz.  It doesn't just affect a handful of people.  Those who can't and those who won't combined are a lot of people.
I imagine in reality it won't make that much difference, but it is frustrating. My Twitter feed earlier today was full of replies from people who are 10-, 20- or 30-year Dredd fans, but who literally cannot see in 3D, or who have dizziness issues that means they can't watch 3D films. Doing a Twitter search for 'Dredd 2D' was even more enlightening, with a constant stream of complaints, suggestions that Kermode should complain about this on radio, and questions to cinema chains (who aren't saying much) about the possibility of a few 2D showings.

Here's hoping Dredd makes a bundle of cash, and any sequel that's greenlit is big enough that there will be a choice for those who need it.

and I am one of them.

I didn't see your twitter post, apologies as i would also have replied to you.  It's a bloody shame.

Choice.  There's an idea I thought we had understood in this Paralympic week but no it seems we will still just look after the majority and ignore the minority and their pesky disabilities.  I hope hollywood and it's 3d project fails badly i really do.  Even my wife who can see it hates it, dark and a load of bollocks is her view of it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 05:47:15 PM
I'm so gutted by this I'm going to cancel my sub come Monday.  This is as blind to disability as i will one day be.  It's disgusting.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge cooper on 07 September, 2012, 05:50:51 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 04:34:03 PM
My envy metre is going through the roof.

Unblind bastards the lot of you  :lol:
I have to wait till it comes out on DVD
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 05:52:05 PM
and me but i feel uninclined to bother now.

I think they have ended a 35 year friendship with this attitude.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 07 September, 2012, 05:54:10 PM
I'm not a fan of 3D at all, I find at best it adds nothing, and at worst it turns the film into a murky mess. I loved the 3D in Dredd though, it's handled really well and adds great depth of field to certain sequences, and the colour palette seems almost designed to overcome the tint of the glasses sometimes.

If it's any help Cineworld in Glasgow have two 2D showings a night so that chain might be a good option.

Also, not sure if you're serious about cancelling the sub Fishy, but that's pretty mad. The decision to show 3D or 2D prints is, I'm pretty sure, completely out of the hands of the film-makers and distributors (and certainly has nothing at all to do with the comic publishers). The cinemas themselves decide which they'll show and how many screenings to allocate to each based on how much money they expect to make, the reason it varies between films is because they expect more people to go and see one film than another, so a larger number of people will attend the 2D screenings too.

I'd imagine they just assume Dredd isn't going to do Pixar business so aren't being as accommodating to the film and it's (potential) fans.

If 3D really isn't an option for you then it's a real shame you'll miss out as a fan, it must feel awful, but I can't help feel cancelling your sub would be directing that anger in entirely the wrong place.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Albion on 07 September, 2012, 05:55:42 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 05:47:15 PM
I'm so gutted by this I'm going to cancel my sub come Monday.

Your sub to 2000AD?
I understand your frustration at this but it's not their fault. Surely it's the fault of movie and cinema companies, not the comic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 07 September, 2012, 05:56:16 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 05:52:05 PM
and me but i feel uninclined to bother now.

I think they have ended a 35 year friendship with this attitude.

I did actually try watching some scenes with one eye closed and there didn't seem to be much blurriness.Shame you'd have to pay a premium price still though.

I feel for you mate, I really do.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 07 September, 2012, 05:56:28 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 05:47:15 PM
I'm so gutted by this I'm going to cancel my sub come Monday.  This is as blind to disability as i will one day be.  It's disgusting.

So let me get this straight..You are going to cancel your 2000ad subscription based on something it has not control over?

Great logic...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 05:56:34 PM
Feels to me like Rebellion could surely ensure their fans of all abilities are included?

Considering many of the fans are getting on a bit this was very short sighted.

I'm serious, I am that upset about it. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 05:57:06 PM
Quote from: Albion on 07 September, 2012, 05:55:42 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 05:47:15 PM
I'm so gutted by this I'm going to cancel my sub come Monday.

Your sub to 2000AD?
I understand your frustration at this but it's not their fault. Surely it's the fault of movie and cinema companies, not the comic.

I have done for years and i have read since the 70's.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 05:57:59 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 07 September, 2012, 05:56:28 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 05:47:15 PM
I'm so gutted by this I'm going to cancel my sub come Monday.  This is as blind to disability as i will one day be.  It's disgusting.

So let me get this straight..You are going to cancel your 2000ad subscription based on something it has not control over?

Great logic...

and there is great logic on having no control over ensuring your disabled fans can see your film?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge cooper on 07 September, 2012, 05:58:29 PM
was it a good film
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 05:59:39 PM
Sorry but last few days moans about lack of 2D, whynot you travelling to nearly one, as Cineworld got Dredd 2D at 7pm every night, some cinemas.

And you attack 2000AD and Dredd film for that? oh come on.

I am disabled myself, and there no subtitled screening, and I miss to understand some plots in the film but I still see it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 07 September, 2012, 06:00:49 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 05:56:34 PM
Feels to me like Rebellion could surely ensure their fans of all abilities are included?

Considering many of the fans are getting on a bit this was very short sighted.

I'm serious, I am that upset about it.

Don't be ridiculous. It's a serious concern but one Rebellion had no control over. They own the property but have nothing to do with the moviemaking business beyond that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Albion on 07 September, 2012, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 05:56:34 PM
Feels to me like Rebellion could surely ensure their fans of all abilities are included?

But it's nothing to do with them. Rebellion are a publishing and games company not a movie maker, distributor or cinema chain.
I agree, more 2D screening should be happening, Cineworld seem to be showing it in 2D where I am, but I bet Rebellion have no say in it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 06:03:01 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 05:59:39 PM
Sorry but last few days moans about lack of 2D, whynot you travelling to nearly one, as Cineworld got Dredd 2D at 7pm every night, some cinemas.

And you attack 2000AD and Dredd film for that? oh come on.

I am disabled myself, and there no subtitled screening, and I miss to understand some plots in the film but I still see it!

yeah I can easily drive the huge distance to the nearest town that has it!!!

lucky you that you can see it. I can't.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 07 September, 2012, 06:03:31 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 05:59:39 PM
Sorry but last few days moans about lack of 2D, whynot you travelling to nearly one, as Cineworld got Dredd 2D at 7pm every night, some cinemas.

And you attack 2000AD and Dredd film for that? oh come on.

I am disabled myself, and there no subtitled screening, and I miss to understand some plots in the film but I still see it!

Funnily enough, I was thinking of you when the film started Goaty.How DID you cope?I don't know the exact level of your deafness. I do know that some cinemas have that earpiece equipment, but not sure if that would help you anyway?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 07 September, 2012, 06:08:37 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 05:56:34 PMFeels to me like Rebellion could surely ensure their fans of all abilities are included?
I'm upset about this too, but I'm not sure what good it would do to cancel your 2000 AD subscription. Rebellion had some involvement with the film, but it's the distributor and cinemas that have made this 3D-only decision. It's probably also worth noting that 3D is one of the main reasons the film got funded in the first place, and yet it's a low-budget flick, which means cinemas that would usually run a 3D film in two streams aren't doing so here. (Our local Vues are ten-screeners and have five Dredd showings per day. Things like Avengers started out with at least twelve, about a third of which were 2D.)

I'm disappointed. I've been looking forward to this film for months, and I desperately wanted to see it on the big screen, not in my living room. That I can't is a pity, but it doesn't change my interest in 2000 AD, any more than the terrible Transformers films made me want to set fire to my Titan trades.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 06:09:21 PM
whether you guys think it's crazy to feel upset of being excluded from viewing the film I most looked forward to or not i really am that upset and It really does mean enough to me to cut my losses and invest my money where it's appreciated.  it's a damned shame.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 06:09:52 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 07 September, 2012, 06:03:31 PM
Funnily enough, I was thinking of you when the film started Goaty.How DID you cope?I don't know the exact level of your deafness. I do know that some cinemas have that earpiece equipment, but not sure if that would help you anyway?

Thank you nicely, I am profoundly Deaf, which means I was born Deaf.

I do wearing digital hearing aids, which help me hearing the sounds, but not very clear, I can hear the music, but not getting the words in it!

I do hear well in the film, people talks etc... great! but with accents etc, can be hard, I love the background music in it, and my favourite music is when four Judges on Lawmasters, that was great sound!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 September, 2012, 06:10:12 PM
I'm ambivalent towards 3D and I can imagine the frustration, but Rebellion will have no say in this, I doubt DNA do either, it will be down to whoever's doing the distribution.

I'm not trying to be comical, but how well does it work covering one eye of the polarised glasses?

I would imagine that it's the actual 3D process of seeing a stereo image for a lot of people, and just using that polarising fliter to blot out one of the images would work, but is obviously far from ideal.

Like I said, the impression I got was that the initial run was going to be weighted to 3D and then have 2D for the remainder afterwards who can't or won't see it in 3D.

Bear in mind that people were panicking that there were no listings a few days ago, so it may be that concrete listings for future 2D showings won't appear while the 3D one is running.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 06:13:05 PM
I won't let my disabled stop me from see it, so driving then!

http://film.list.co.uk/article/45206-dredd-2d-screenings-around-the-uk/ (http://film.list.co.uk/article/45206-dredd-2d-screenings-around-the-uk/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 07 September, 2012, 06:13:17 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 06:09:21 PM
whether you guys think it's crazy to feel upset of being excluded from viewing the film I most looked forward to or not i really am that upset and It really does mean enough to me to cut my losses and invest my money where it's appreciated.  it's a damned shame.

I wouldn't worry..just heard Mr Tumble has been drafted in to do a fully signed version in  Makaton...

::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Albion on 07 September, 2012, 06:15:29 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 06:09:21 PM
It really does mean enough to me to cut my losses and invest my money where it's appreciated.

I'm sure Rebellion appreciate all sales, its what keeps 2000AD going.
The comic and film may have the same characters but are separately produced entities. Maybe you should boycott the cinema chains rather than Rebellion who have no say in this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 07 September, 2012, 06:15:41 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 06:09:52 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 07 September, 2012, 06:03:31 PM
Funnily enough, I was thinking of you when the film started Goaty.How DID you cope?I don't know the exact level of your deafness. I do know that some cinemas have that earpiece equipment, but not sure if that would help you anyway?

Thank you nicely, I am profoundly Deaf, which means I was born Deaf.

I do wearing digital hearing aids, which help me hearing the sounds, but not very clear, I can hear the music, but not getting the words in it!

I do hear well in the film, people talks etc... great! but with accents etc, can be hard, I love the background music in it, and my favourite music is when four Judges on Lawmasters, that was great sound!

Good stuff!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 06:20:59 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 06:13:05 PM
I won't let my disabled stop me from see it, so driving then!

http://film.list.co.uk/article/45206-dredd-2d-screenings-around-the-uk/ (http://film.list.co.uk/article/45206-dredd-2d-screenings-around-the-uk/)
seeing well enough to drive any distance is a huge help for sure.

so how does "won't let it stop me" add up if i crash the car because my eyes fail on me again?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 06:22:50 PM
and by that I mean that i can barely see to drive now and never drive more than a couple of miles and even that'll end soon, so putting a showing many miles away from me doesn't help me and suggesting i'm failing not to overcome my disability by not killing myself in the car is unhelpful.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 07 September, 2012, 06:24:08 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 06:20:59 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 06:13:05 PM
I won't let my disabled stop me from see it, so driving then!

http://film.list.co.uk/article/45206-dredd-2d-screenings-around-the-uk/ (http://film.list.co.uk/article/45206-dredd-2d-screenings-around-the-uk/)
seeing well enough to drive any distance is a huge help for sure.

so how does "won't let it stop me" add up if i crash the car because my eyes fail on me again?

Mate, do you have a Paypal account?I'd quite happily stick a tenner in there(and hope some others might contribute, ) to help pay your costs there and back to the nearest 2D screening as I'd hate for anyone to miss out on such an excellent film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 07 September, 2012, 06:25:49 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 06:09:21 PM
whether you guys think it's crazy to feel upset of being excluded from viewing the film I most looked forward to or not i really am that upset and It really does mean enough to me to cut my losses and invest my money where it's appreciated.  it's a damned shame.

No-one is suggesting it's crazy to be upset, I'd be absolutely gutted. What is crazy is taking it out on Rebellion, who have absolutely nothing to do with it. Also, I'm assuming you enjoy the comics so depriving yourself of that because some cinema chains (and it is the cinema chains who have made this decision) aren't giving Dredd the screenspace/time it would need to have more 2D screenings is cutting your own nose off to spite your face. You're right to be upset, you're just upset with the wrong people.

I took the glasses off a couple of times to see what it looked like, and some scenes look entirely normal, some scenes have a slight double-vision going on (probably the ones they really want to pop). Not ideal but might be a decent compromise if you really don't want to miss out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 06:26:37 PM
That's an incredibly kidn thing to say, thank you  :)

But i would never burden the good folk on here like that and it wasn't what i was getting at. Just that nobody should have to pay 60 miles at least of taxi fares to see a film that could easily have been accessible to them.  I walk to my cinema.  It's 3 miles away and i don't drive now if i can avoid it.

Thank you though, that's lovely of you.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 07 September, 2012, 06:28:13 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 06:26:37 PM
That's an incredibly kidn thing to say, thank you  :)

But i would never burden the good folk on here like that and it wasn't what i was getting at. Just that nobody should have to pay 60 miles at least of taxi fares to see a film that could easily have been accessible to them.  I walk to my cinema.  It's 3 miles away and i don't drive now if i can avoid it.

Thank you though, that's lovely of you.

Shucks, not a problem mate.I really hope you can find a way to see it asap. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 06:29:26 PM
Thank you.  I shall await the lovefilm i suspect.

Meanwhil i'll just have to watch the Raid and imagine they are wearing Judge costumes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 06:32:35 PM
Fishy, I'd also happily chip in for your ride.. Make a day out of it, I say..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 07 September, 2012, 06:34:45 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 06:32:35 PM
Fishy, I'd also happily chip in for your ride.. Make a day out of it, I say..

Indeed!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 07 September, 2012, 06:47:29 PM
I'm sure given the choice Rebellion would have released it in both 2D and 3D at the same time- but its not down to them.Whats wrong with a train?Its worth it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 06:51:01 PM
Trains are nice here.. The ones in SA are awful.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 06:52:16 PM
Thanks guys,  yeah a taxi then train then taxi is possible, make a day of it, but I'm not here to take from you good peeps.  Really appreciate it though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 07 September, 2012, 06:52:59 PM
Right, when I win the Euromillions tonight, I'm BUYING a fucking two screen cinema.It's going to run Dredd 2D and 3D continuously for 50 or so years and they'll be a hotel next door which you can all stay in free of charge.

So there!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 06:53:18 PM
Actually the st erth one barely runs this time of year so thinking about it it's not, it would have to be taxi.  Nah, far too costly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 06:53:41 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 07 September, 2012, 06:52:59 PM
Right, when I win the Euromillions tonight, I'm BUYING a fucking two screen cinema.It's going to run Dredd 2D and 3D continuously for 50 or so years and they'll be a hotel next door which you can all stay in free of charge.

So there!!

Fantastic idea  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 06:55:16 PM
Define costly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 07:55:33 PM
I'm not sure but I dont fancy a 6o mile at least trip.   That's costly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 07 September, 2012, 08:14:28 PM
We defintely need to do something to help mr fishy get to a 2D screening, dont we? Ive been moaning about this bloody movie forever, but at least i can see it if i want to, and in 3D- a format i love. So basically, how do we do it?

Apologies if this has been addressed in the last page- im on my phone and it's so sloooow, ive jumped ahead.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 08:15:06 PM
Well, the offer's there.. Just let us know.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 07 September, 2012, 08:32:31 PM
Now sitting in cineworld

Large Popcorn - Check
Large Coke - Check
3D Glasses - Check

Just under half an hour to go!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 September, 2012, 08:38:45 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 07:55:33 PM
I'm not sure but I dont fancy a 6o mile at least trip.   That's costly.

Where do you live?

You mentioned St Erth, but St Ives is 5 miles away from that and is showing it in 2D...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 08:50:35 PM
Thanks guys

Yeah I mentioned st erth as I can get a taxi to my local train station, a main line train to there and then a train from there to st Ives during peak season but times are rubbish.

Given the times they are showing it, night only, I could probably get there but not back.

Your help is really appreciated peeps, really kind.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 09:04:16 PM
Results!!

As I been tell my workmate about this film for months.

He just text that the film is fab film! and enjoy it! Also notice Goaty!

Good job myself!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 07 September, 2012, 09:05:02 PM
I'm mad keen to throw a tender in for Fishy to see the film any way he can. I'm getting almost as much of a buzz seeing how much others have enjoyed it than when I saw it myself!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 09:07:17 PM
That is lovely cheers.

Like you I am pleased to see no which people love it.  Assad I won't get to see it for a long time but happy for them for sure,  seems a real fan service as long as they have good eyes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 07 September, 2012, 10:01:35 PM
Just saw it again in Odeon Salisbury, was even better the second time round, plus the missus loved it! Only 6 people in a 300-seater screen though, very disappointed. :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 07 September, 2012, 10:07:49 PM
You can count me in for a Fish based contribution. We go way back on here, and I taught him how to play Amped on XBL.

Someone sort this out and we'll all bung a few bucks in.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pioneer on 07 September, 2012, 10:43:15 PM
Just got back myself and am still in awe, and am most definitely in to contribute a tenner for you Fishy! No Dredd fan should be in the position you are in.

Also don't cancel that subscription, that's a madness right there! ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 07 September, 2012, 10:46:19 PM
Just about to leave to catch the 11:15pm screening. I've been trying to get away all day but cakes and children have gotten in my way.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 11:10:56 PM
Quote from: James on 07 September, 2012, 10:07:49 PM
You can count me in for a Fish based contribution. We go way back on here, and I taught him how to play Amped on XBL.

Someone sort this out and we'll all bung a few bucks in.

You did. Mate.  Those early console days were ace.  Sadly the old eyes have got much worse since then so I barely play this past year or two, cannot without it hurting quickly.

You're all very kind,  honestly it's lovely but I wouldn't ask that of you lovely folk.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 11:13:56 PM
Quote from: Pioneer on 07 September, 2012, 10:43:15 PM
Just got back myself and am still in awe, and am most definitely in to contribute a tenner for you Fishy! No Dredd fan should be in the position you are in.

Also don't cancel that subscription, that's a madness right there! ;)

That's really kind, thank you.

I will think about it over the weekend,  I was feeling really annoyed about it earlier.   At the mo I just feel acceptance that I'm not seeing it but I am upset at them or thinking about the less able eyed.  I see what people say About it not being rebellion.  Mind you I tweeted and they ignored so I don't think they really care what a view folk with visual impairments think.   I will give it some though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 07 September, 2012, 11:30:11 PM
Saw it at the Empire Leicester Square, first showing at 1.15pm, and there were about 20 people I could see. Could have been more in the more expensive section behind. Like someone said above, not bad for middle of a workday.

Loved it. Smiled madly when the Dredd logo crashed through. Didn't feel deprived by lack of more Megacity since what they showed was revealing enough - which does not mean I don't want to see more, just that for this movie, I am perfectly happy with what I got.

Urban awesome. I want more. If they don't make sequels, it will be one helluva shame. Left that movie feeling it was way too short and I just wanted more!

Anderson's journey was so well done. Very impressed by Thirlby.

I definitely need to see it again. Missed a lot of the details in the background, like the forum names.

All in all, awesome. Awesome day. People who prefer the Raid can keep it, I'll take Dredd any day. And seriously, comparing the two now that I've seen it - seems like the most ludicrous thing to do. Critics, strange folk indeed.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 07 September, 2012, 11:41:20 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 11:13:56 PM
Quote from: Pioneer on 07 September, 2012, 10:43:15 PM
Just got back myself and am still in awe, and am most definitely in to contribute a tenner for you Fishy! No Dredd fan should be in the position you are in.

Also don't cancel that subscription, that's a madness right there! ;)

That's really kind, thank you.

I will think about it over the weekend,  I was feeling really annoyed about it earlier.   At the mo I just feel acceptance that I'm not seeing it but I am upset at them or thinking about the less able eyed.  I see what people say About it not being rebellion.  Mind you I tweeted and they ignored so I don't think they really care what a view folk with visual impairments think.   I will give it some though.

Good to see you're calming down on the point Fishy, I'd contribute too (as well as a reshowing next year for those too young now!) if you'd accept it, have fond memories of the banter amongst us aquatic boarders from long ago  ;)

I totally see your point and completely agree there should be more 2d showings. Hopefully that'll come with time over the coming weeks. There was a lot of great 3d work in the film (way better than Prometheus, which is the only other one I've seen), but it does distract and a film should be able to stand on its own, which I think it will (aside from the odd bit of obviousness, hard to say without seeing it in 2d).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 07 September, 2012, 11:42:03 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 07 September, 2012, 10:01:35 PM
Just saw it again in Odeon Salisbury, was even better the second time round, plus the missus loved it! Only 6 people in a 300-seater screen though, very disappointed. :(

Just saw it at the Vue in Southport -- great stuff -- but for a 7pm screening on a Friday night the place was almost deserted.  Only about 20 in the screen.  Very worrying. Perhaps the positive word-of-mouth will bring more in...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ED GRIMREAPER on 07 September, 2012, 11:56:47 PM
Just come back from seeing it. Fantastic!  Even my wife,who isn't a dredd head like me, loved it. Only 10 people in the cinema though. I hope it gets enough money for a sequel. It really deserves it. At long last the ghost of that Stallone movie can now be laid to rest.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 08 September, 2012, 12:01:38 AM
Just in from a 21:30 show with mates.. The silence around me was worrying, but it was apparently from awe, as I found out.. In all about 20-odd in the theatre? Somewhat disappointing, but I must say the cinema in general wasn't exactly heaving..  I think there was football on..

I saw my name on the big telly :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 September, 2012, 12:02:08 AM
I saw the 19:00 showing in Odeon Liverpool One and can't praise Urban highly enough. His Dredd is as scary as Snake Plissken is cool. Though am I the only person who found myself looking around and wondering 'Which one of these geeks posts on the message board?'?

And not a real spoiler but..

[spoiler]That whole thing with the homeless guy felt like it was lifted straight from a 2000AD page. Fucking perfect, and the film's laugh out loud moment.[/spoiler]

My new sig >>>> "Yeah.."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 08 September, 2012, 12:03:58 AM
Quote from: Stan on 08 September, 2012, 12:02:08 AM
I saw the 19:00 showing in Odeon Liverpool One and can't praise Urban highly enough. His Dredd is as scary as Snake Plissken is cool. Though am I the only person who found myself looking around and wondering 'Which one of these geeks posts on the message board?'?

And not a real spoiler but..

[spoiler]That whole thing with the homeless guy felt like it was lifted straight from a 2000AD page. Fucking perfect, and the film's laugh out loud moment.[/spoiler]

My new sig >>>> "Yeah.."

I got the Snake Plisskin vibe too
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge cooper on 08 September, 2012, 09:42:54 AM
I envy you all. I can't watch it
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 08 September, 2012, 09:49:14 AM
Quote from: Mudcrab on 07 September, 2012, 11:41:20 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 11:13:56 PM
Quote from: Pioneer on 07 September, 2012, 10:43:15 PM
Just got back myself and am still in awe, and am most definitely in to contribute a tenner for you Fishy! No Dredd fan should be in the position you are in.

Also don't cancel that subscription, that's a madness right there! ;)

That's really kind, thank you.

I will think about it over the weekend,  I was feeling really annoyed about it earlier.   At the mo I just feel acceptance that I'm not seeing it but I am upset at them or thinking about the less able eyed.  I see what people say About it not being rebellion.  Mind you I tweeted and they ignored so I don't think they really care what a view folk with visual impairments think.   I will give it some though.

Good to see you're calming down on the point Fishy, I'd contribute too (as well as a reshowing next year for those too young now!) if you'd accept it, have fond memories of the banter amongst us aquatic boarders from long ago  ;)

I totally see your point and completely agree there should be more 2d showings. Hopefully that'll come with time over the coming weeks. There was a lot of great 3d work in the film (way better than Prometheus, which is the only other one I've seen), but it does distract and a film should be able to stand on its own, which I think it will (aside from the odd bit of obviousness, hard to say without seeing it in 2d).

Thank you. Yeah it does sound like they at least did it properly for those who can enjoy it.

I'm thinking alightly differently now and thinking the best way i can protest is by investing nothing in the film itself and simply not seeing it until it is on free tv in a couple of years.   They might care really but if everyone who feels strongly did the same then they'd notice.

I'll also see if Rebellion ever make any comment on the impact cutting out non-stereoscopic viewers has (lots of people can't see it and are venting it) before deciding if i cancel the subs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 08 September, 2012, 10:15:24 AM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 08 September, 2012, 09:49:14 AM
Quote from: Mudcrab on 07 September, 2012, 11:41:20 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 11:13:56 PM
Quote from: Pioneer on 07 September, 2012, 10:43:15 PM
Just got back myself and am still in awe, and am most definitely in to contribute a tenner for you Fishy! No Dredd fan should be in the position you are in.

Also don't cancel that subscription, that's a madness right there! ;)

That's really kind, thank you.

I will think about it over the weekend,  I was feeling really annoyed about it earlier.   At the mo I just feel acceptance that I'm not seeing it but I am upset at them or thinking about the less able eyed.  I see what people say About it not being rebellion.  Mind you I tweeted and they ignored so I don't think they really care what a view folk with visual impairments think.   I will give it some though.

Good to see you're calming down on the point Fishy, I'd contribute too (as well as a reshowing next year for those too young now!) if you'd accept it, have fond memories of the banter amongst us aquatic boarders from long ago  ;)

I totally see your point and completely agree there should be more 2d showings. Hopefully that'll come with time over the coming weeks. There was a lot of great 3d work in the film (way better than Prometheus, which is the only other one I've seen), but it does distract and a film should be able to stand on its own, which I think it will (aside from the odd bit of obviousness, hard to say without seeing it in 2d).

Thank you. Yeah it does sound like they at least did it properly for those who can enjoy it.

I'm thinking alightly differently now and thinking the best way i can protest is by investing nothing in the film itself and simply not seeing it until it is on free tv in a couple of years.   They might care really but if everyone who feels strongly did the same then they'd notice.

I'll also see if Rebellion ever make any comment on the impact cutting out non-stereoscopic viewers has (lots of people can't see it and are venting it) before deciding if i cancel the subs.
Once again: IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REBELLION.
I'm truly sorry to hear about your problems, bit this is like blaming Volkswagen because your car doesn't behave like Herbie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 September, 2012, 10:25:39 AM
Blaming Rebellion and 2000AD (who make comics not film) for a film distribution concern seems totally irrational for a decision mabe by theatre chains.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 08 September, 2012, 10:31:47 AM
well they could at least have said something, show that they support those cut out by this decision whoever made it.

Bloody shame.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 08 September, 2012, 10:35:19 AM
That's made my mind up actually.

I'm out of here.  Cheers all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 08 September, 2012, 10:36:06 AM
I just got up and im still buzzing after seein dredd yesterday so much that im gunna go see it again but this time with a big group i cant wait to see some of there reactions when they see it  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 September, 2012, 10:56:53 AM
This is superb news...delighted you can all see it and it seems DNA have pulled it off and honoured the source material! Wonderful news.

Now go see it 10 times...I will when I get a chance, when it makes it to this outpost.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge cooper on 08 September, 2012, 11:00:02 AM
I only have one problem. why can't they use the original armour and suit
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 September, 2012, 11:01:03 AM
Quote from: judge cooper on 08 September, 2012, 11:00:02 AM
I only have one problem. why can't they use the original armour and suit


because it was a drawing, it's hard to wear a drawing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge cooper on 08 September, 2012, 11:01:49 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 September, 2012, 11:01:03 AM
Quote from: judge cooper on 08 September, 2012, 11:00:02 AM
I only have one problem. why can't they use the original armour and suit


because it was a drawing, it's hard to wear a drawing.
I mean make it
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 September, 2012, 11:06:22 AM
Building it is possible.

Pulling off stunts with the large pads is a lot trickier. Look at how quickly Stallone got rid of the pads as well as the helmet.

Then there's the issue that the rest of the world is not that outlandish. Which makes a guy walking around with a giant sculptured eagle even more out of place.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 08 September, 2012, 11:06:53 AM
Quote from: judge cooper on 08 September, 2012, 11:01:49 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 September, 2012, 11:01:03 AM
Quote from: judge cooper on 08 September, 2012, 11:00:02 AM
I only have one problem. why can't they use the original armour and suit


because it was a drawing, it's hard to wear a drawing.
I mean make it

Because it would look shit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge cooper on 08 September, 2012, 11:11:07 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 08 September, 2012, 11:06:53 AM
Quote from: judge cooper on 08 September, 2012, 11:01:49 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 September, 2012, 11:01:03 AM
Quote from: judge cooper on 08 September, 2012, 11:00:02 AM
I only have one problem. why can't they use the original armour and suit


because it was a drawing, it's hard to wear a drawing.
I mean make it

Because it would look shit.
how?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 08 September, 2012, 11:13:07 AM
Steve just answered that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 08 September, 2012, 11:15:08 AM
Honestly, of all the possible criticisms of this film: the 'where are the flying cars and shoulder-pads?' one is the most mystifying to me...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 September, 2012, 11:16:15 AM
Quote from: judge cooper on 08 September, 2012, 11:00:02 AM
I only have one problem. why can't they use the original armour and suit

My answer to you is below me..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge cooper on 08 September, 2012, 11:21:06 AM
true, but when people say that it's true to the magazines, I expect to see the original suit
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 08 September, 2012, 11:23:11 AM
Quote from: judge cooper on 08 September, 2012, 11:21:06 AM
true, but when people say that it's true to the magazines, I expect to see the original suit

Well if you knew anything at all about the comic, you'd know it is.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 September, 2012, 11:25:30 AM
Quote from: judge cooper on 08 September, 2012, 11:21:06 AM
true, but when people say that it's true to the magazines, I expect to see the original suit


It is true to the uniform. Have a look at the earliest comics.


(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/dredd77.jpg)


(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/p31Dredd.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 08 September, 2012, 11:27:01 AM
Well an argument could be made that, superficially, the Stallone film had a look that was more true to the bulk of the comics; and if that's really what's important to you, then you will no doubt prefer that film to this one.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 08 September, 2012, 11:27:57 AM
and I think you're insane.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 September, 2012, 11:32:10 AM
A lengthier take on it is...

It's more about the character than the costume for me.

As has just been pointed out the costume scale resembles early Dredd, and I particularly like the back protector and neck brace on the new version.

That said, I'm not against more outlandish costumes as long as it fits the rest of the world and it fits the character.

The Droogs in a Clockwork Orange look fucking ridiculous but you accept them.

IMHO it's incredibly blinkered to say *this is wrong* on either side, if you state that you junk everything that doesn't look outlandish, then you may as well chuck out the majority of designs for genre films, let alone historical films.

The argument could be made that the bit that sticks out as incongruous in their world is the helmet, because it's closest to the comic, but obviously that is the face of Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 08 September, 2012, 11:35:01 AM
I can't believe we're back to this again.

.... wait, what am I saying? Of course I can believe it. Eighty, walking with a cane, I'll still be hearing it.

And I love the back protector detail. And another success of the film is in showing all that padding is completely necessary, and that's a helluva lot of armour and padding. Impressed how agile they all looked in it too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 08 September, 2012, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 08 September, 2012, 10:35:19 AM
That's made my mind up actually.

Strong in this thread, the sense of entitlement is.

Hmmm!

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 08 September, 2012, 12:02:40 PM
The Dredd 3d  uniform is much closer to the design of the comic than the stallone one ever was. A lot more of the detail is there including the correct colour green gloves and shoulder pads. Underneath the body armour there is a leather jacket just like the original design. The only thing that said 'Dredd' in the 90's version were the shoulder pads, and they didn't work for action.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 September, 2012, 12:08:29 PM
Yeah, the new one is more about additions - all that's really *missing* is the chain, everything else is present.

Elbow pads (which the Stallone one didn't have), Leathers (ditto), closer colour scheme, very close helmet.

And I really like the eagle pad as a practical substitute.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 08 September, 2012, 12:11:23 PM
i was upset before the movie, but after watching it twice , Going out to see it again this afternoon  third time .. Im loving it !!  much more realistic Dredd (well done karl + costume ) but remember folks Dredd is just a tough biker , So thick leather with padding is essential
the only thing i think kneed's work is the helmet a fraction lower + smaller
knee and elbow pads and gloves could of been greener to stand out more

next movie i want to see much more bike work  more busts more real peds
we want chopper/america/ cursed earth/ ABC warriors/ flesh/ending in  dark judges for movie 3

most  enjoyable part ..when the  homeless guy gets squished ."Should of went to the cubes" like Dredd said    :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 September, 2012, 12:20:15 PM
Any spoilers in the review threads please.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 08 September, 2012, 12:29:31 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 08 September, 2012, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 08 September, 2012, 10:35:19 AM
That's made my mind up actually.

Strong in this thread, the sense of entitlement is.

Hmmm!

Jim

It's madness. Many of us have tried to explain but we're all banging our heads against a brick wall with it. I do think it's a real shame, Fishy has been a fan for a long time, I really hope he gets over it and doesn't ditch something he clearly loves just because of what seems like a bit of a knee-jerk tantrum to be honest.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 September, 2012, 12:34:35 PM
If he clearly loves the comic why blame it for something it didn't do?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 08 September, 2012, 12:42:26 PM
Good point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 08 September, 2012, 01:13:44 PM
Poor guy is waiting all his life to see this film, and now he finds he cant: I can't see any logic in his actions but I do sympathise with his frustrated and emotional reaction... it just all seems a dreadful pity to me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 September, 2012, 01:15:18 PM
But as I said before, it won't stop me to see it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 08 September, 2012, 01:18:57 PM
But you are the legendary Goaty, and made of sterner stuff than mere mortals. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 September, 2012, 01:31:37 PM
Again it's Lord Goaty  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 08 September, 2012, 01:38:07 PM
I live in a republic: I am a citizen, not a 'subject', and that is a title I do not recognise.

except in your case, your Lordship sir... ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 September, 2012, 01:43:44 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 08 September, 2012, 01:38:07 PM
I live in a republic.


Well it's supposed to be one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 08 September, 2012, 01:48:42 PM
True that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 08 September, 2012, 01:51:29 PM
I keep seeing all these 'free Dredd screenings' announcements on AICN and elsewhere - logically, I know it can't make that much difference to ticket sales and yet I can't help the spike of anxiety at the loss in ticket sales.

.... it won't really affect ticket sales, right?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge cooper on 08 September, 2012, 03:03:26 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 September, 2012, 11:25:30 AM
Quote from: judge cooper on 08 September, 2012, 11:21:06 AM
true, but when people say that it's true to the magazines, I expect to see the original suit


It is true to the uniform. Have a look at the earliest comics.


(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/dredd77.jpg)


(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/p31Dredd.jpg)
just noticed that actually, I apologies, haven't read case files 1 in a while
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 08 September, 2012, 05:24:54 PM
Quote from: SKD on 08 June, 2012, 09:31:33 PM
  This might not be the Dredd film we would have liked, but it might just be the quality Dredd film we all need.
Stew.

I said that exactly three months ago. I have just got home after watching Dredd 3D for the 1st time, I'm still grinning. That was EXCELLENT! :D I'm now off to see if 'The Halls of Justice' require another psychic.

With regard to the amount of punters in the cinema. For the showing I went to there were 17 other people. Ok, that doesn't seem many. But if you compare that to when I went to see the Avengers, in the same time slot (First screening of the day, first saturday of release.) when there were about 30 people in, the figures don't look so bad.

Stew.

P.S. Am I the only one who got a lump in his throat when Carlos & John's names were the first on the credits?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 08 September, 2012, 05:30:25 PM
That made me want to get up and cheer! It was almost as cool as when the Dredd logo shatters the screen. What a film.

Just booked another screening with a mate for Monday night. Very interested to see what he makes of it, he read the meg and weekly for a few months but stopped for money reasons. He still collects the Anderson trades thou as she's the character that really grabbed him. Reckon in that regard he'll be well pleased.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge cooper on 08 September, 2012, 06:25:08 PM
on a scale of 1-100, how good is the film?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 08 September, 2012, 06:33:31 PM
Very.

91
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Adamskilad on 08 September, 2012, 06:40:09 PM
So it was my wife's turn for a lie-in this morning and whenever the kids said: "but mummy let's me do that!" or "is mummy awake yet?" I'd turn round to them and say in a gruff voice:

"Mummy's not the law... I'M the law!"

Honestly, it still hasn't got old yet! (though my oldest, who's seven, might think otherwise).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 08 September, 2012, 06:45:38 PM
I believe, if memory serves;  that it is the perogative of fathers to tell the same joke to their children, and to find it funnier the more they tell it and the older it gets...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Adamskilad on 08 September, 2012, 06:47:10 PM
And miles better than:

"But daddy! Mummy lets me do that!"

"I knew you'd say that!"  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 08 September, 2012, 06:47:26 PM
Quote from: Adamskilad on 08 September, 2012, 06:40:09 PM
So it was my wife's turn for a lie-in this morning and whenever the kids said: "but mummy let's me do that!" or "is mummy awake yet?" I'd turn round to them and say in a gruff voice:

"Mummy's not the law... I'M the law!"

Honestly, it still hasn't got old yet! (though my oldest, who's seven, might think otherwise).

:lol:Very Good
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 September, 2012, 07:15:07 PM
Quote from: judge cooper on 08 September, 2012, 06:25:08 PM
on a scale of 1-100, how good is the film?

I would also give it a 90. Thirlby was great (though not quite Anderson), and if there was a flaw to be found in Urban's performance I didn't notice it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 September, 2012, 07:25:15 PM
More of the positive...
http://www.film.com/movies/dredd-3-d-review-2012
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 September, 2012, 07:28:10 PM
Apologies if this concept art has been posted here already...
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2012/09/dredd-3ds-momentum-reaches-critical-mass/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Adamskilad on 08 September, 2012, 07:34:08 PM
Solid 8 out of 10 with my non-Dredd helmet on, but a 9-out-of-10-with-an-embarassing-bit-of-wee-wee-coming-out as a fan.

My wife hardly knew anything about Dredd but said she came out of the cinema wanting a sequel and generally wanting to know more about his world. She asked me loads of questions afterwards. Most interesting one was: "But who do the judges WORK for? Who's actually in CHARGE of Mega-City 1?"

"Well dear, it all started with a chap called Bob Booth..."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 08 September, 2012, 07:45:42 PM
Incidentally, on the 2D thing, I figured I'd write to my local Vue, asking if there was any chance of 2D showings, and registering my disappointment about a chunk of the audience being excluded. I was very polite and noted it would be good to perhaps get a single daily showing of the 2D print. Here's what I was told:

QuotePlease be advised, 'Dredd 3D' has only been released in 3D by film distributors and it is not showing in 2D anywhere.

My emphasis there, and this will come as a big shock to a chum in Scotland who told me about how he enjoyed the 2D showing he saw last night...

So either Vue's customer support people aren't very well informed or they're just flat-out lying about the 2D print. (Cineworld offered a rather different take on Twitter recently, simply stating there weren't many 2D prints and that they had "most of them".)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 08 September, 2012, 08:03:05 PM
Have there been any full screenings yet?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on 08 September, 2012, 08:05:29 PM
COMPUTER SEZ NO. Indigo, I think they're being a bit thick - Dredd 3D will of course show up on their system as 3D only; whereas Dredd ought to return a substantial amount of 2D prints. Ask again.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 September, 2012, 08:18:37 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 08 September, 2012, 07:45:42 PM

QuotePlease be advised, 'Dredd 3D' has only been released in 3D by film distributors and it is not showing in 2D anywhere.

My emphasis there, and this will come as a big shock to a chum in Scotland who told me about how he enjoyed the 2D showing he saw last night...



I watched it in 2D yesterday.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 September, 2012, 09:00:48 PM
For anyone who might be looking at this thread from Europe - it seems the film may well roll out on the 21st of September but Germany and Switzerland are Nov 15th it's estimated...( No dead cert but thanks to DNA on that as a maybe)...bloody hell, I'm a hell of a fan of that film company now, jings. Seriously has there ever been a more fan considerate production, Grud on a greenie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 08 September, 2012, 09:13:36 PM
That IMDB rating keeps going up and up.

If the Sweeney opens up stronger than Dredd next week not only do I despair for the human race, I think I'll be physically sick.

Nick Love is incapable of making a good movie, case in point Outlaw. There is so much reprehensibly wrong with that film it hurts my fingers to type about it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 September, 2012, 09:20:36 PM
Type 'Danny Dyer Nick Love Outlaw Commentary' into YouTube if you want a laugh.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 08 September, 2012, 09:24:05 PM
Quote from: radiator on 08 September, 2012, 09:20:36 PM
Type 'Danny Dyer Nick Love Outlaw Commentary' into YouTube if you want a laugh.

Wow...
Just, Wow.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 08 September, 2012, 09:25:06 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 08 September, 2012, 09:13:36 PM
That IMDB rating keeps going up and up.

If the Sweeney opens up stronger than Dredd next week not only do I despair for the human race, I think I'll be physically sick.

Nick Love is incapable of making a good movie, case in point Outlaw. There is so much reprehensibly wrong with that film it hurts my fingers to type about it.

I hate to say..but the Sweeney will smash it in the UK..Ray Winstone and the fact it is The Sweeney will capture the older demographic and Plan B is well known to the kids
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 September, 2012, 09:26:16 PM
Quote from: radiator on 08 September, 2012, 09:20:36 PM
Type 'Danny Dyer Nick Love Outlaw Commentary' into YouTube if you want a laugh.


They have to be taking the piss. Best laugh of the day.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: watto911 on 08 September, 2012, 09:32:45 PM
Went to the 4.50 showing in Naas Odeon. Loved it. Worryingly though, Myself and the missus were the only people in the cinema. Also a distinct lack of promo stuff in the foyer, not a poster in sight. Hope it was just the good weather keeping people away. That, and the 18 cert prob wouldn't help a daytime showing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 08 September, 2012, 09:39:56 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 08 September, 2012, 09:25:06 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 08 September, 2012, 09:13:36 PM
That IMDB rating keeps going up and up.

If the Sweeney opens up stronger than Dredd next week not only do I despair for the human race, I think I'll be physically sick.

Nick Love is incapable of making a good movie, case in point Outlaw. There is so much reprehensibly wrong with that film it hurts my fingers to type about it.

I hate to say..but the Sweeney will smash it in the UK..Ray Winstone and the fact it is The Sweeney will capture the older demographic and Plan B is well known to the kids

It's no THE `The Sweeney `though, is it?That's why I(and my mates) aren't going to bother.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 September, 2012, 09:40:57 PM
It's supposed to be fucking awful.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 08 September, 2012, 09:46:47 PM
The Sweeney looks shit and Plan 9 From Outer Space (or what ever his stupid name is) says Wobbery!

Which frankly, is enough to put me off!

I think I'll see Dredd again instead!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 September, 2012, 09:53:31 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 08 September, 2012, 09:13:36 PM
That IMDB rating keeps going up and up.

I was wondering about that since I'm pretty sure it's higher than it was this morning. Not that I put much stock in IMDb but I won't complain either.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hippynumber1 on 08 September, 2012, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: watto911 on 08 September, 2012, 09:32:45 PM
Went to the 4.50 showing in Naas Odeon. Loved it. Worryingly though, Myself and the missus were the only people in the cinema. Also a distinct lack of promo stuff in the foyer, not a poster in sight. Hope it was just the good weather keeping people away. That, and the 18 cert prob wouldn't help a daytime showing.

I went to the Showcase in Brum for the 11.50 showing and it was surprisingly (and promisingly) busy!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 08 September, 2012, 09:57:23 PM
Quote from: watto911 on 08 September, 2012, 09:32:45 PM
Worryingly though, Myself and the missus were the only people in the cinema. Also a distinct lack of promo stuff in the foyer, not a poster in sight. Hope it was just the good weather keeping people away. That, and the 18 cert prob wouldn't help a daytime showing.

And not much in the way of promo stuff at my local yesterday. The outside poster for Dredd is placed on the right hand side of the cinema, which youll never really pass, because to enter and exit the place, youll be inclined to be more on the left hand side. Clearly not Dredd fans! Though, both 2D and 3D versions are showing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 September, 2012, 10:07:41 PM
Quote from: hippynumber1 on 08 September, 2012, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: watto911 on 08 September, 2012, 09:32:45 PM
Went to the 4.50 showing in Naas Odeon. Loved it. Worryingly though, Myself and the missus were the only people in the cinema. Also a distinct lack of promo stuff in the foyer, not a poster in sight. Hope it was just the good weather keeping people away. That, and the 18 cert prob wouldn't help a daytime showing.

I went to the Showcase in Brum for the 11.50 showing and it was surprisingly (and promisingly) busy!

Good to hear! Each report of low attendance is like a little dagger in my heart.

Please please PLEASE don't flop....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 08 September, 2012, 10:13:28 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 08 September, 2012, 09:57:23 PM
Quote from: watto911 on 08 September, 2012, 09:32:45 PM
Worryingly though, Myself and the missus were the only people in the cinema. Also a distinct lack of promo stuff in the foyer, not a poster in sight. Hope it was just the good weather keeping people away. That, and the 18 cert prob wouldn't help a daytime showing.

And not much in the way of promo stuff at my local yesterday. The outside poster for Dredd is placed on the right hand side of the cinema, which youll never really pass, because to enter and exit the place, youll be inclined to be more on the left hand side. Clearly not Dredd fans! Though, both 2D and 3D versions are showing.


Yeah same here!
Don't know if this is country wide  or just at my local but certainly Cineworld have been pretty crap promoting the film!
Likewise the poster has been placed on the right hand side, which I presume gets more traffic, while crap like the latest Adam Sandler movie gets the busier left side!
Also they're using the teaser poster and not the later poster to promote it! Pretty shoddy treatment, if you ask me!
Still not a bad audience turn out today for my third trip, on a blistering hot day, in the early afternoon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 08 September, 2012, 10:18:36 PM
My viewing is tomorrow. I cant believe my 16 year old daughter has already seen it. I am so glad some of my madness has rubbed off onto her.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 08 September, 2012, 11:24:22 PM
Quote from: radiator on 08 September, 2012, 10:07:41 PM
Quote from: hippynumber1 on 08 September, 2012, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: watto911 on 08 September, 2012, 09:32:45 PM
Went to the 4.50 showing in Naas Odeon. Loved it. Worryingly though, Myself and the missus were the only people in the cinema. Also a distinct lack of promo stuff in the foyer, not a poster in sight. Hope it was just the good weather keeping people away. That, and the 18 cert prob wouldn't help a daytime showing.

I went to the Showcase in Brum for the 11.50 showing and it was surprisingly (and promisingly) busy!

Good to hear! Each report of low attendance is like a little dagger in my heart.

Please please PLEASE don't flop....

Don't know whether you missed it but my showing last night was very busy!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 08 September, 2012, 11:38:48 PM
my mate went to see it last night he said it was pretty packed at the Metrocentre.. i went again this afternoon and there was about 60-70 people in the screen. the cinema as a whole seemed quiet this might be because it was sunny in Newcastle for the first time since 1986..

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 September, 2012, 11:49:58 PM
I think there may have been 45ish at my screening? Though I'm crap at estimating stuff and things. It could've been higher.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 08 September, 2012, 11:58:20 PM
Was pretty quite at both of mine, got another one on Tuesday, so maybe it will pick up by then. Universally positive reviews, plus word of mouth has got to do something, right? I just hope it's not too late as my cinema will most likely only screen it for a week, though maybe put it down into screen 2 for another.

Pretty sure everyone who saw it loved it though. It's just fucking solid.

Really hope we find out how well it does asap, need a sequel to look forward to as there is now a massive void in my life.

Also, Rebellion should get working on a video game in time for said sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2012, 12:14:30 AM
When do they release the box office for this weekend? Next weekend or Monday?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 09 September, 2012, 01:05:03 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2012, 12:14:30 AM
When do they release the box office for this weekend? Next weekend or Monday?

Monday, I think.
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 09 September, 2012, 01:44:30 AM
Well, that was bloody brilliant! Favourite reference: "Sink or swim".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MattJW on 09 September, 2012, 02:55:29 AM
Quote from: NSFTM on 08 September, 2012, 11:38:48 PM
my mate went to see it last night he said it was pretty packed at the Metrocentre.. i went again this afternoon and there was about 60-70 people in the screen. the cinema as a whole seemed quiet this might be because it was sunny in Newcastle for the first time since 1986..

Even for very popular mainstream movies, I recall very few 'packed' auditoriums over the last few years. It could be down to there being so many cinemas with multiple screenings of the same film. Only 'Orange Wednesdays' stand out as being particularly busy nowadays......
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 09 September, 2012, 06:36:36 AM
Thats a good point,cinemas were small town flea pits when I were a lad,easy to fill and they were less around.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judda fett on 09 September, 2012, 07:10:42 AM
Got to say im quietly optomistic for dredd. Decent turnouts thus far and mad positive reviews.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Toni Scandella on 09 September, 2012, 08:53:58 AM
There were only about four people at my showing in the Trafford Centre on Friday at 4:50 - the rest of the cinema was also empty, I have to say - never been to a screening at that time before so maybe that's not that unusual, especially given the decent weather and the England match?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 09 September, 2012, 08:58:53 AM
So basicly Dredd3D is Robocop2 minus the giant cyborg and some other stuff  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 09 September, 2012, 08:59:42 AM
DREDD3D vs Robocop2  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2CwX_-i95w
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 09 September, 2012, 09:06:58 AM
Quote from: MattJW on 09 September, 2012, 02:55:29 AM
Quote from: NSFTM on 08 September, 2012, 11:38:48 PM
my mate went to see it last night he said it was pretty packed at the Metrocentre.. i went again this afternoon and there was about 60-70 people in the screen. the cinema as a whole seemed quiet this might be because it was sunny in Newcastle for the first time since 1986..

Even for very popular mainstream movies, I recall very few 'packed' auditoriums over the last few years. It could be down to there being so many cinemas with multiple screenings of the same film. Only 'Orange Wednesdays' stand out as being particularly busy nowadays......
This is true. When I went to see The Avengers, there were only 30 or 40 people in the cinema, and I believe it did okay...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 09 September, 2012, 09:58:49 AM
There were 15 in for the 7:15 performance on friday night- i counted them out. The next showing, at 9, had fourteen of us in it.

But i got a nice two for one voucher, so am going to go again with my wife and see if word's getting about. I did think about smuggling my seven and nine year old in, if it's very quiet midweek- brave is showing next door and the screens are mostly automated now. The staff i encountered on friday night would have had difficulty wiping their own arses without instructions, so i reckon id get the kids in easy.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 09 September, 2012, 10:00:42 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 09 September, 2012, 09:58:49 AM
There were 15 in for the 7:15 performance on friday night- i counted them out. The next showing, at 9, had fourteen of us in it.

But i got a nice two for one voucher, so am going to go again with my wife and see if word's getting about. I did think about smuggling my seven and nine year old in, if it's very quiet midweek- brave is showing next door and the screens are mostly automated now. The staff i encountered on friday night would have had difficulty wiping their own arses without instructions, so i reckon id get the kids in easy.

SBT

I'm taking it that you enjoyed it then?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 09 September, 2012, 10:15:46 AM
To be honest michael, no l not really, as i suspected i wouldnt. But i want to support it and get a sequel, so it doesnt matter what i thought- there's time for all that later. I reckon my wife will like it, as she enjoys this type of thing more than me! The music was fantastic though, and i'll be buying the soundtrack. I'll be interested to see if my opinions change second time around around, as well.

I very much want another one- so i think even if you dislike it, you owe it to tharg to see it twice! Everyone's in celebratory mood right now, so let's dwell on that instead.

It would be great to get the kids in- there's nothing in Dredd that's too inappropriate, except a bit of language. But of course i wont- that was a dreamy fan-dad joke, more's the pity.

SBT
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hippynumber1 on 09 September, 2012, 10:19:35 AM
Quote from: Noisybast on 09 September, 2012, 01:44:30 AM
Well, that was bloody brilliant! Favourite reference: "Sink or swim".

I liked "It's all the deep end."  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2012, 10:21:59 AM
I wonder what Anderson was going to say before she got cut off. The 'there's something more' bit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 09 September, 2012, 10:22:11 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 09 September, 2012, 09:06:58 AM
This is true. When I went to see The Avengers, there were only 30 or 40 people in the cinema, and I believe it did okay...
Quote from: SKD on 08 September, 2012, 05:24:54 PM
With regard to the amount of punters in the cinema. For the showing I went to there were 17 other people. Ok, that doesn't seem many. But if you compare that to when I went to see the Avengers, in the same time slot (First screening of the day, first saturday of release.) when there were about 30 people in, the figures don't look so bad.

My only concern was for the lack of advertising in the (Showcase) cinema that I attended. I didn't see any posters or anything as I walked in and through the foyer. I did ask about the Dredd 3D glasses, but was told quite despondently "I'm sorry, we don't tend to get sent promotional things like that here."

One of my workmates went to a different cinema yesterday at 4.30. he said that there were only 7 others in there. But, it was sunny out and the pubs in the town were busy. He really enjoyed the film though.

I'm hoping to go again next weekend with some friends.

Stew
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 September, 2012, 10:26:18 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2012, 10:21:59 AM
I wonder what Anderson was going to say before she got cut off. The 'there's something more' bit.


He's gay.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 09 September, 2012, 10:27:58 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 09 September, 2012, 10:26:18 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2012, 10:21:59 AM
I wonder what Anderson was going to say before she got cut off. The 'there's something more' bit.


He's gay.

Heh. I bet even Alex Garland doesn't know. Writer's trick to make the reader/viewer go 'Ohhhh! I wonder what he was going to say?'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2012, 11:18:49 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 09 September, 2012, 10:26:18 AM



He's gay.

Haha!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 09 September, 2012, 11:21:52 AM
Somethin' not quite right about that boy... something about a long-standing live-in relationship with a lisping male-styled robot who likes to wear a 'pinny'...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 09 September, 2012, 11:24:03 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2012, 11:18:49 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 09 September, 2012, 10:26:18 AM



He's gay.

Haha!

[spoiler]And Lex's advances were ignored hence resulting in his vengeance.[/spoiler]

It all makes so much more sense now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 09 September, 2012, 11:28:26 AM
Finally saw the movie yesterday as I was on a business trip on Thursday and Friday. Received a text message from my friend on the Friday evening who was raving about the movie, he mentioned he had no problem getting a seat as they were the only two there.  :-\
Went with the wife, had her read the nasty Ma-Ma prologue to get her in the mood.
We went to the 4.15pm showing, cinema was quiet enough as we got our tickets and snacks.
Sat in our seats, only 6 there including the two of us.  :(
Both of us were blown away, the slo-mo scenes were brilliant, the whole package was dynamite. Karl was bloody awesome but in fairness Olivia was excellant in her role and held her own against Karls performance.
Too many great scenes to pick out. All the supporting actors were great, loved Judge Lex's banter with Dredd.  :)
I thought the violence wasn't as hard as I thought, even the missus agreed.  :-*
Minor gripe was the midget female Judge, her helmet didn't sit right on her head in her scenes. Thankfully, the camera didn't concentrate for too long on her for you to notice.
The missus thought I didn't like it as I had been talking up a storm for months and was speechless afterwards as I was still digesting the movie. All I could say was it was alright.  :D
Overall, both of us were very happy leaving the cinema. A solid 8/10 from me.
The lack of bums in seats are starting to worry me a little.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 09 September, 2012, 11:46:42 AM
I'd like to think that UK cinema goers are a lot less`urgent `than those in the US.There's not such a rush to go and see a new movie on the first weekend(unless it's been mega-hyped as a blockbuster) and, as such, films stay in a the UK charts, chugging along nicely, for a lot longer.

Plus, the 3D ticket prices might help recoup the budget  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 09 September, 2012, 11:51:25 AM
The lack of punters at daytime doesn't bother me - especially as its so hot, there's Paralympics on the tv and it's an 18.

It's reports of quiet evening showings that I find worrying...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 09 September, 2012, 11:54:50 AM
Well its the american market that matters and I imagine most yankee doodles dont give a damn how it did overhere...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2012, 01:41:53 PM
Does anyone know the song that was playing in the Slo-Mo den? Didn't sound like it was part of the score.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 09 September, 2012, 01:48:33 PM
it sounded like a REMIX of "I Feel Love - Donna Summer" track from the late 70s probably wrong
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2012, 02:00:38 PM
Yeah that sounds like it, thanks! Not sure which remix exactly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2012, 02:03:24 PM
Oh wait, it is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2dfGC1oziE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2dfGC1oziE)

Pretty cool track.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 09 September, 2012, 02:23:50 PM
Nice find.
Quote from: SneakeeX on 09 September, 2012, 11:28:26 AM
Minor gripe was the midget female Judge, her helmet didn't sit right on her head in her scenes. Thankfully, the camera didn't concentrate for too long on her for you to notice.

I know she was only a minor role, but I thought her performance was excellent -her commanding voice and her body language were perfect (and yes it was a slightly ill-fitting helmet)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 09 September, 2012, 02:34:42 PM
Has anyone stayed all the way through to the end?
Saw 2000 and Starlord get a mention but was I seeing things as I got up did the message board get mentioned?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2012, 02:46:07 PM
I thought all the Judges were spot on. The way everyone walked and just generally moved put across serious bad-assness.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Daveycandlish on 09 September, 2012, 02:57:19 PM
About 20 folk there for the 12 30 showing this afternoon, which I'd say is average for that time of day. We'll just have to go five times each to bump up the takings!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 09 September, 2012, 03:03:14 PM
At this rate the box office expectations will be met by boarders alone..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 09 September, 2012, 03:04:45 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2012, 10:21:59 AM
I wonder what Anderson was going to say before she got cut off. The 'there's something more' bit.

[spoiler]He is a clone...[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 09 September, 2012, 03:20:00 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 09 September, 2012, 03:04:45 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2012, 10:21:59 AM
I wonder what Anderson was going to say before she got cut off. The 'there's something more' bit.

[spoiler]He is a clone...[/spoiler]

He knows that in this version.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rex Banner on 09 September, 2012, 04:46:14 PM
Quote from: W. R. Logan on 09 September, 2012, 02:34:42 PM
Has anyone stayed all the way through to the end?
Saw 2000 and Starlord get a mention but was I seeing things as I got up did the message board get mentioned?

In amongst the thanks the 2000AD Forum gets a mention.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 09 September, 2012, 06:04:24 PM
Glad to hear people are digging it. I still have to wait a couple weeks for it to hit over here, can't wait.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 09 September, 2012, 09:02:42 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2012, 02:46:07 PM
I thought all the Judges were spot on. The way everyone walked and just generally moved put across serious bad-assness.

[spoiler]The faux Dark Judges seemed a little hokey to me, at points. Like they had their own Dragnet type theme or something. They were great though. Especially Lex and his dropping of the MF-bomb (kinda weird!).[/spoiler]

Not sure that needed spoiler tags but wotevz. And isn't your avatar from Anderson's interview scene? Is there a larger version?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 September, 2012, 09:16:30 PM
Quote from: Stan on 09 September, 2012, 09:02:42 PM
Not sure that needed spoiler tags but wotevz. And isn't your avatar from Anderson's interview scene? Is there a larger version?

Yes this thread still need spoiler tags cos people on here from US and Europe/rest of the world that hadn't see the film...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 09 September, 2012, 09:18:37 PM
Quote from: Stan on 09 September, 2012, 09:02:42 PM
[spoiler]The faux Dark Judges seemed a little hokey to me, at points. Like they had their own Dragnet type theme or something. They were great though. Especially Lex and his dropping of the MF-bomb (kinda weird!).[/spoiler]

That was my favourite bit!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 September, 2012, 09:30:49 PM
That's good image and for anyone want see close-up of the Eagle?;

(http://86.imagebam.com/download/jHFWfpda_WgEcRSj9L7mWQ/20987/209862995/MSNUK-EXTRAS-08.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2012, 09:39:02 PM
Quote from: Stan on 09 September, 2012, 09:02:42 PM
And isn't your avatar from Anderson's interview scene? Is there a larger version?

I just did print screen on the featurette to get it, this is the full thing.

(http://i47.tinypic.com/al6qme.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 09 September, 2012, 09:45:34 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 09 September, 2012, 09:39:02 PM
Quote from: Stan on 09 September, 2012, 09:02:42 PM
And isn't your avatar from Anderson's interview scene? Is there a larger version?

I just did print screen on the featurette to get it, this is the full thing.

http://i47.tinypic.com/al6qme.jpg

"Must..fight...outing."

Thanks. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 09 September, 2012, 09:54:46 PM
Secretly jealous of Judge Burdis stealing his thunder.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Albion on 09 September, 2012, 10:47:05 PM
I saw it for a second time at Cineworld in Chichester on Saturday night.
There were about 45 people there. It seemed to go down well with the audience and Mrs Albion, who knows very little about Dredd, enjoyed it too to my surprise.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 09 September, 2012, 10:47:25 PM
The battle damage detailing on the Judges helmets are another great thing about the uniform. The lumpiness on Judge Lex's helmet made it look as if he'd been through a war. I actually think the uniforms have benifitted from this kind of of re-imagining.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 09 September, 2012, 11:16:09 PM
He had it easy ;)...


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TABaE0p5QaQ/TKU6N6NGhQI/AAAAAAAAAfs/klGC9N_fFY0/s1600/P9300008.JPG (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TABaE0p5QaQ/TKU6N6NGhQI/AAAAAAAAAfs/klGC9N_fFY0/s1600/P9300008.JPG)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 10 September, 2012, 12:05:26 AM
 :) 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 September, 2012, 12:19:53 PM
Dredd producer and head of DNA Andrew Macdonald on the proposed Dredd trilogy:

Quote"Alex has a very good idea for Dredd's journey", he admitted. Iterating his belief that the Dredd movie "nailed a style" and that Karl Urban is "an absolutely magic Judge Dredd", Macdonald said that "I am sure that, if it works, it's something that all the distributors will want to do again".

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd/22597/dna-films-chief-on-dredd-2-and-dredd-3 (http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd/22597/dna-films-chief-on-dredd-2-and-dredd-3)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 10 September, 2012, 12:22:37 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 09 September, 2012, 11:16:09 PM
He had it easy ;)...


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TABaE0p5QaQ/TKU6N6NGhQI/AAAAAAAAAfs/klGC9N_fFY0/s1600/P9300008.JPG (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TABaE0p5QaQ/TKU6N6NGhQI/AAAAAAAAAfs/klGC9N_fFY0/s1600/P9300008.JPG)

Poor little bugger  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 10 September, 2012, 01:01:44 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 09 September, 2012, 03:03:14 PM
At this rate the box office expectations will be met by boarders alone..

I mentioned this in another thread, but I will repeat it here also:

Remember folks, this may be the ONLY OPPORTUNITY we get to see it on the big screen, so do whatever you can to save money elsewhere and spend it on going to see it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 10 September, 2012, 01:58:34 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 10 September, 2012, 01:01:44 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 09 September, 2012, 03:03:14 PM
At this rate the box office expectations will be met by boarders alone..

I mentioned this in another thread, but I will repeat it here also:

Remember folks, this may be the ONLY OPPORTUNITY we get to see it on the big screen, so do whatever you can to save money elsewhere and spend it on going to see it.

STOP MAKING ME FEEL GUILTY, I'VE GOT NO MONEY LEFT!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 September, 2012, 02:01:43 PM
Well as sorry for this post as been kept it to myself and still see the film at cinema...

WISH THERE WILL BE SUBTITLED SCREENING FOR DREDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 10 September, 2012, 02:05:19 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 10 September, 2012, 02:01:43 PM
Well as sorry for this post as been kept it to myself and still see the film at cinema...

WISH THERE WILL BE SUBTITLED SCREENING FOR DREDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thought of you when we went to see it in Cineworld as there was an advert before hand for subtitles and described showings. Not specifically for Dredd, but they were pushing the fact they did them before a screening of Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 September, 2012, 02:06:11 PM
Thanks, as I hadn't post my review yet as need to be 100% of the film.  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 10 September, 2012, 07:15:48 PM
I know there is a separate trailer thread but as we have so many on the go I just wanted to say here that I really like the US trailer. Not dissing the UK one though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZvfAYdn4DA
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 10 September, 2012, 08:32:42 PM
Yep. The Daily Mail counts as a review. Both they and Digital Spy ruined the perfect.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd_3d/

Though at least Tookey didn't steal the glory for himself.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 September, 2012, 08:35:16 PM
Nooo! But at least they added another 8 positive reviews. Gone from 7.3 to 7.1 one now too. The bastards!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 10 September, 2012, 08:39:18 PM
Still a great score and it could go back up a little,depends how the American mainstream view it now I suppose.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 10 September, 2012, 08:51:09 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 10 September, 2012, 07:15:48 PM
I know there is a separate trailer thread but as we have so many on the go I just wanted to say here that I really like the US trailer. Not dissing the UK one though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZvfAYdn4DA

I gotta see this film again, i really have.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 10 September, 2012, 09:05:26 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 10 September, 2012, 08:51:09 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 10 September, 2012, 07:15:48 PM
I know there is a separate trailer thread but as we have so many on the go I just wanted to say here that I really like the US trailer. Not dissing the UK one though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZvfAYdn4DA

I gotta see this film again, i really have.

That trailer is the bomb..prefer it to ours even if it's only 30 seconds long!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 September, 2012, 09:06:38 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 10 September, 2012, 07:15:48 PM
I know there is a separate trailer thread but as we have so many on the go I just wanted to say here that I really like the US trailer. Not dissing the UK one though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZvfAYdn4DA

Oh yeah that was last week? OOh my comment got 25 likes!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 September, 2012, 09:07:41 PM
I would actually say each trailer has been better then the last, the 60 second, and 30 second trailer have been ace, much better then the first one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: skurvy on 10 September, 2012, 09:17:33 PM
Sitting in the Empire at bas vegas. 15 minutes till the film starts. So in about 105 minutes it should be safe for me to start reading the forum again - been trying to avoid spoilers for weeks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 10 September, 2012, 10:01:37 PM
The US trailer shows what is a key scene, bit of a mistake imho
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 10 September, 2012, 10:19:42 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 10 September, 2012, 10:01:37 PM
The US trailer shows what is a key scene, bit of a mistake imho

Except, as I keep pointing out, you don't know it's a key scene unless you've already seen the film. Most trailers contain key footage from their film -- without context, it doesn't matter. In fact, it's unavoidable -- the good bits are, by definition, the key bits of most movies.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MattJW on 10 September, 2012, 10:54:46 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 10 September, 2012, 07:15:48 PM
I know there is a separate trailer thread but as we have so many on the go I just wanted to say here that I really like the US trailer. Not dissing the UK one though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZvfAYdn4DA

Urban's "Yeah" there is so awesomely Eastwood!  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 September, 2012, 11:26:21 PM
Quote from: MattJW on 10 September, 2012, 10:54:46 PM
Urban's "Yeah" there is so awesomely Eastwood!  :P

Some also very Eastwood sounding lines for me were:

[spoiler]Neutral? No you're not, you're taking sides. [/spoiler]

[spoiler]So why's she in a uniform?[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Well you got one now.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Interesting.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]You're the psychic.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Perps were... Uncooperative.[/spoiler]

But there's just so many great quotes. Thinking about it I don't think Dredd has a bad line. Or anyone for that matter.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on 10 September, 2012, 11:32:52 PM
There was the odd note or two that sounded jarringly middle-class to me.

[spoiler] Caleb referring to the squalid druggie shithole as a "distribution center" and Kay's use of the word "family" in a line that called for something more like "Mom n Pops".[/spoiler]

Maybe it's just me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 11 September, 2012, 07:51:57 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 September, 2012, 11:26:21 PM
Quote from: MattJW on 10 September, 2012, 10:54:46 PM
Urban's "Yeah" there is so awesomely Eastwood!  :P

Some also very Eastwood sounding lines for me were:

[spoiler]Neutral? No you're not, you're taking sides. [/spoiler]

[spoiler]So why's she in a uniform?[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Well you got one now.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Interesting.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]You're the psychic.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Perps were... Uncooperative.[/spoiler]

But there's just so many great quotes. Thinking about it I don't think Dredd has a bad line. Or anyone for that matter.
I thought at one point he was going to accuse some perps of laughing at his mule....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mk_sUPtYjw
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 September, 2012, 08:55:09 AM
Funny on many websites people mentioned Urban IS Dredd, and it's Awesome!

Awesome!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: J3D1 on 11 September, 2012, 08:57:28 AM
Goaty that Sig is awesome!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 September, 2012, 08:59:04 AM
Quote from: J3D1 on 11 September, 2012, 08:57:28 AM
Goaty that Sig is awesome!

it's by John Spellings
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: J3D1 on 11 September, 2012, 09:16:22 AM
The only thing I didn't like about the film was the argument that followed after I instructed a couple they were sitting in our seats only for them to point out that I had booked tomorrows showing.

Cinemas are quite understanding and accommodating for idiots these days.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 11 September, 2012, 09:34:30 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 10 September, 2012, 10:19:42 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 10 September, 2012, 10:01:37 PM
The US trailer shows what is a key scene, bit of a mistake imho

Except, as I keep pointing out, you don't know it's a key scene unless you've already seen the film. Most trailers contain key footage from their film -- without context, it doesn't matter. In fact, it's unavoidable -- the good bits are, by definition, the key bits of most movies.

Cheers

Jim

Yeah, I get where you're coming from. The problem is that if you've seen a trailer a few times then when you see the film and the line pops up I don't think you react to it the way you should because you've heard it a few times already. Like you say, it's probably largely unavoidable but I think the DREDD trailers have been worse than most for it (the trailers have included [spoiler]Dredd's last exchange with Ma Ma, his last conversation with the Chief Judge and worst of all, Dredd sentencing and killing the main villain of the film[/spoiler]).

Throwing in some of the memorable bits of dialogue is one thing, but that last one strikes me as completely avoidable and very, very spoilertastic. I can get that they wanted the shot of [spoiler]Dredd standing at the window[/spoiler], it's a great shot and was what sold the movie to my girlfriend (she thought it looked just like an iconic Dredd comic panel) but you could have that without the context.

I pretty much agree with you it's unavoidable, but it's the reason that if I'm already interested in a film nowadays I'll avoid any further trailers or clips if possible.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 11 September, 2012, 09:40:32 AM
You want a spoilerific trailer, look no further than Castaway. Less of a trailer .. more the whole plot of the film
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 11 September, 2012, 09:43:10 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 11 September, 2012, 09:40:32 AM
You want a spoilerific trailer, look no further than Castaway. Less of a trailer .. more the whole plot of the film

Should've watched the trailer and left it at that then..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 11 September, 2012, 09:50:09 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 11 September, 2012, 09:43:10 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 11 September, 2012, 09:40:32 AM
You want a spoilerific trailer, look no further than Castaway. Less of a trailer .. more the whole plot of the film

Should've watched the trailer and left it at that then..
I did  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 11 September, 2012, 11:53:31 AM
I think I've seen some of this before but get a load of this compilation of behind the scenes footage.

http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/judge-dredd-2012/b-roll

Some class lawmaster footage included.

And check out Ma-Ma's grimace.

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x141/mycenaean/Various/Lawmaster1.png)

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x141/mycenaean/Various/Lawmaster2-1.png)

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x141/mycenaean/Various/Dreddshoots.png)

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x141/mycenaean/Various/Dreddmonitor.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 11 September, 2012, 12:02:37 PM
I was just on Amazon to check out the blu-ray and also found the Dredd screenplay novel by Alex Garland. Anyone read it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 September, 2012, 12:08:56 PM
Thee is no novelisation, it's a collection of older novels by different authors:


(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51PJn1v1YcL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 September, 2012, 12:10:57 PM
but then again there is a screenplay kindle book (but not a novelisation).


(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41pKBiV2sZL._AA278_PIkin4,BottomRight,-48,22_AA300_SH20_OU02_.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 11 September, 2012, 12:14:16 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 11 September, 2012, 11:53:31 AM
I think I've seen some of this before but get a load of this compilation of behind the scenes footage.

http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/judge-dredd-2012/b-roll

Some class lawmaster footage included.

And check out Ma-Ma's grimace.

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x141/mycenaean/Various/Lawmaster1.png)

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x141/mycenaean/Various/Lawmaster2-1.png)

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x141/mycenaean/Various/Dreddshoots.png)

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x141/mycenaean/Various/Dreddmonitor.png)

Oooh, look at those glorious blink-and-you'll-miss-them details on the bike's guns..

I'll shut up now..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hairwolf on 11 September, 2012, 12:14:50 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 11 September, 2012, 11:53:31 AM
I think I've seen some of this before but get a load of this compilation of behind the scenes footage.

http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/judge-dredd-2012/b-roll

Some class lawmaster footage included.

And check out Ma-Ma's grimace.



I really love the bike, there's something very menacing about it, I think it's because they've stripped away all of the unecessary stuff in this design, eagles, big headlight assemblies etc. and while it may look a bit clunky from some angles they way it was shot made it look mean and dangerous.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 11 September, 2012, 12:20:51 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 September, 2012, 12:10:57 PM
but then again there is a screenplay kindle book (but not a novelisation).


(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41pKBiV2sZL._AA278_PIkin4,BottomRight,-48,22_AA300_SH20_OU02_.jpg)

So the final version of the leaked screenplay some of you read? Thanks. Will check it out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 11 September, 2012, 12:58:11 PM
Quote from: Hairwolf on 11 September, 2012, 12:14:50 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 11 September, 2012, 11:53:31 AM
I think I've seen some of this before but get a load of this compilation of behind the scenes footage.

http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/judge-dredd-2012/b-roll

Some class lawmaster footage included.

And check out Ma-Ma's grimace.



I really love the bike, there's something very menacing about it, I think it's because they've stripped away all of the unecessary stuff in this design, eagles, big headlight assemblies etc. and while it may look a bit clunky from some angles they way it was shot made it look mean and dangerous.

The shape worked for the era it was conceived in.. The 95 one just makes them look like 2 wheeled ice cream vans.. Motorcycle design has evolved. Even Hardly Ablesons have overhead cam engines these days.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hairwolf on 11 September, 2012, 01:01:59 PM
Yeh the 95 ones were such a let down when i went to see that movie, at the time they reminded me of dodgem cars and when the actually flew....jaysus, sickened is not the word to describe my feelings towards that design travesty.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 11 September, 2012, 01:02:37 PM
Bah, 95% fresh on RT now, thanks to that bloody Daily Mail review.  I'm very tempted to call him a nasty four letter word, but I shall restrain myself. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 September, 2012, 01:12:31 PM
It's telling of the '95 film that their 'Lawmaster' - one of the major icons of Dredd-gear - featured in but one scene, which amounted to little more than a parking, not a chase scene, a parking scene.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLwNKEQ4ir4#t=0m57s
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 11 September, 2012, 01:16:18 PM
Ooooooh that's.. No..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 11 September, 2012, 01:21:52 PM
You mustnt blame poor old tookey. He's a timid, fey gentleman who has fought a lifelong battle against the terrors of the outside world. He's petrified of that which he doesn't understand, and like many of the extreme right, assumes the very worst. Twenty years ago he confidently predicted a tidal surge of copycat serial murderers in the wake of silence of the lambs. When that failed to occur, he didnt rethink, merely ignored the evidence and carried on worrying. He really cant help it, and his 'reviews' are merely the rants of an old fool, divorced from sense and lost in a modern world he cannot abide. He's gone futsie.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 11 September, 2012, 01:35:44 PM
I really think a bad Tookey review is about as high a recommendation as you could hope for. They should put them on posters.

I just had deja vu, so sorry if I already typed that exact sentence earlier in the thread...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 September, 2012, 01:38:56 PM
Sort of badge of honour?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 11 September, 2012, 01:45:28 PM
Exactly!

Rather hearteningly, the friend who I took along last night went out and bought the Meg today and is loving it (he seems particularly excited about the Anderson story). Maybe the Meg will get a burst of new readers?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaker on 11 September, 2012, 01:50:20 PM
Saw it last night......utterly brilliant. Urban is perfect as Dredd, Thirlby was a revelation and the film just keeps on going and getting better. Everything I could have hoped for in a Dredd movie....so far.

Fave bit - [spoiler]Dredd retreating into the smoke after throwing one Ma ma's henchmen over the balcony. Pure Dreddiness. [/spoiler]

Now, roll on the Blu Ray and some sequels please!


(BTW this is the first time I have seen a 3D movie and I won't be rushing to see another. Its a gimmick. The effects were very impressive and the 3D made it slightly more immersive but my eyes still ache and I think anything longer than 90mins and I'd have had enough.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 11 September, 2012, 01:54:02 PM
Remember this isn't the review thread people, use SPOILERS!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 September, 2012, 01:55:52 PM
Mods, can you spoiler tags some of Beaker?

Thanks
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 11 September, 2012, 01:56:51 PM
'95's lawmaster looked cool from the back though.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8159/7404423634_556abcd5f5_b.jpg)


There is some great Lawmaster shots in the Behind the scenes vid, looks awesome.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 September, 2012, 01:58:39 PM
Yep but can you really riding '95 Lawmaster?

Urban did for real with his lawmaster - no stunts!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 11 September, 2012, 02:01:29 PM
Oh for sure- not defending '95's in that respect, you could see them wobble at 5mph !!


Really hope I can see the new Lawmaster in the flesh some day, and looking forward to seeing some 'in progress' shots  HINT HINT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 September, 2012, 02:19:45 PM
Yeah, I thought the old one looked pretty good from the back, as does the new one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 11 September, 2012, 02:31:33 PM
Screaming out for a 'making of' book.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Martin Howe on 11 September, 2012, 02:40:59 PM
Just in case it's not been mentioned:

For anybody living in East Anglia: Hollywood Cinema, Anglia Square, Norwich (http://www.hollywoodcinemas.net/norwich) are only showing the 2D print as they HAVE no 3D facilities.

I can't see 3D well when I have tried it and think of it as another gimmick, so no thanks. Dredd 2D was great, why ruin it :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 11 September, 2012, 02:47:11 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 September, 2012, 01:12:31 PM
It's telling of the '95 film that their 'Lawmaster' - one of the major icons of Dredd-gear - featured in but one scene, which amounted to little more than a parking, not a chase scene, a parking scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLwNKEQ4ir4#t=0m57s

We'll have none of that round here, please!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 September, 2012, 03:08:14 PM
I didn't know you were such a fan Supes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 11 September, 2012, 03:29:41 PM
I got to the codpiece shot and had to stop.

In DREDD the perp had to hold his breath. In the Stallone version they cut out the bit where Fergie used Dredd's codpiece as a respirator.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 11 September, 2012, 03:32:58 PM
kinky-kinky
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 11 September, 2012, 03:53:19 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 11 September, 2012, 03:32:58 PM
kinky-kinky

deserved-deserved..

Apparently it was an unscripted ad-lib and Stallone just went with it..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beaker on 11 September, 2012, 07:14:52 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 September, 2012, 01:55:52 PM
Mods, can you spoiler tags some of Beaker?

Thanks

Oh lawks...I'm sorry, I never gave it a thought. Daft bugger! :o(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 11 September, 2012, 08:24:37 PM
Dragged my bitching and moaning wife along to a showing this evening on the pretext that it was our twelfth anniversary and I was paying so I got to choose. We had a special screening all to ourselves... until just after it started, when another couple crept in and sat behind us, so sadly no monkey-busines was in the offing. I thought it could go either way, to be honest; my wife is far more into this type of movie than I am (when I met her she had a whole collection of Jean Claude Van Damme films on VHS), but she's never shown any real interest in Dredd, despite being married to me for nearly nine years and despite being in Minty and living in a house with every single issue of 2000AD and The Megazine, Sci-Fi Special, Winter Special, PosterProg and annual in it, plus hundreds of convenient trades. As far as I'm concerned, while my first viewing pretty much confirmed that I didn't like the things I thought I wouldn't like and didn't exactly set me on fire, I wanted to go back to support this little endeavour and enjoy the excellent soundtrack, and some of the better (non-obviously cgi) splatter.

I wasn't prepared for quite how much my wife liked it, or for the barrage of questions about Mega City One on the way home. Safe to say, she was impressed. And as a result I liked it that little bit more, too. On Friday I'm going again (if it's still on at our local cinema) with an old friend who's a lapsed-squaxx (can you guess when he gave up? Can you, hey, can you?) so it'll be interesting to see what he makes of it.

Both wifey and I thought it a shame they went for the stupid swearing though. Without it, the gore would have made it a '15' and possibly doubled the box office. Dredd saying "shit" was just... wrong.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 September, 2012, 08:27:48 PM
I found the Aww shit line quite funny, made Dredd somewhat more authentic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 September, 2012, 08:37:26 PM
I highly doubt it's the swearing that made it an 18, or even the gore.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 11 September, 2012, 08:45:31 PM
It had a lot to do with the sexual violence, which is essential to the story.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 11 September, 2012, 08:45:51 PM
Returned from my 4th viewing having taken my younger brother this time.

Bits he really liked
[spoiler]He laughed loud at the Caleb', shortest route to the exit bit, but had the biggest laugh at the end where Dredd confronts a problem with Ma-ma.
'Mmmm whats the range on that?Can it get through 100 floors of concrete?How about 200?Lets find out- Cue hysterical laughter as he knew what was coming (found it funnier myself to be fair-really good line)
[spoiler][/spoiler]

The great news is he wants to see it again -which he practically never does (another ticket or two in the bag methinks  :D)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 11 September, 2012, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 11 September, 2012, 08:37:26 PM
I highly doubt it's the swearing that made it an 18, or even the gore.

The BBFC states the movie received the '18' for "frequent strong bloody violence and gore". The "sexual violence" didn't bother them- "The film also contains strong threat and a brief moment of implied sexual violence, in which a man hits a woman. However, the scene is brief and discreet, only implying a violent sexual fantasy inside a criminal's mind".

The use of drugs didn't bother them either, being fictional- and to be honest, going by their own guidelines (see the limits of acceptability for a '15'), I'm hard-pressed to see exactly why it got an '18' at all. Like all these things, it would seem to entirely depend on the overall effect of everything together- the language, violence, gore and sex. Dredd, for me, was a '15' unfairly rated higher by an organisation that is forced to justify its own existence from time to time. If this had come from a major studio it would have got the lower rating, with a minimum of snips.

For me though, the most objectionable element was the language.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 11 September, 2012, 09:01:55 PM
New TV spot on just a second ago"The UK's Number 1 film"

Dredd"Yeah"


"And the critics agree"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 11 September, 2012, 09:03:09 PM
Cue list of reviews.

(Sorry,pressed return too quickly!)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 11 September, 2012, 09:04:16 PM
Just seen a brief ad before the footy and it centered on the positive reviews and had four and five stars plastered all over it.





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 September, 2012, 09:04:48 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 September, 2012, 08:27:48 PM
I found the Aww shit line quite funny, made Dredd somewhat more authentic.

Where was that, again? I've completely blanked on it. The MF-bomb kinda blew everything else away.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 11 September, 2012, 09:05:23 PM
Quote from: Stan on 11 September, 2012, 09:04:48 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 September, 2012, 08:27:48 PM
I found the Aww shit line quite funny, made Dredd somewhat more authentic.

Where was that, again? I've completely blanked on it. The MF-bomb kinda blew everything else away.

[spoiler]When the brought out the BIG guns![/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 September, 2012, 09:06:26 PM
The language didn't bother me much.

There's 'worse' in 15 rated films, but it depends on the context.

It's more any violence veering into Hostel/Saw territory which will push an 18, but I'm not going to elaborate as the spoiler tags don't work on mobile devices, and there's a separate review thread for it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 September, 2012, 09:07:33 PM
I barely noticed the 'language', it seemed minimal.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 11 September, 2012, 09:08:09 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 11 September, 2012, 09:01:55 PM
New TV spot on just a second ago"The UK's Number 1 film"

Dredd"Yeah"


"And the critics agree"

[spoiler]So they're now using that line in ads? As cool as that ad sounds that's my favorite moment in the movie, would be a shame if I'd already seen it out of context.[/spoiler]

It does really sound like an awesome ad though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 September, 2012, 09:12:14 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 11 September, 2012, 09:05:23 PM
Quote from: Stan on 11 September, 2012, 09:04:48 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 September, 2012, 08:27:48 PM
I found the Aww shit line quite funny, made Dredd somewhat more authentic.

Where was that, again? I've completely blanked on it. The MF-bomb kinda blew everything else away.

[spoiler]When the brought out the BIG guns![/spoiler]

Aaah, thanks. I recall liking the reaction but couldn't remember what it was exactly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 September, 2012, 09:12:27 PM
They've been using that line since the TV spots started before release.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 11 September, 2012, 09:16:03 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 September, 2012, 09:07:33 PM
I barely noticed the 'language', it seemed minimal.
I'm with fry on this one: the beeping at the end breaks me heart a little:www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSQmk6gGTcE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSQmk6gGTcE)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 September, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 September, 2012, 09:12:27 PM
They've been using that line since the TV spots started before release.

Plus it was always out of context. It's the one line I was really looking out for and I wasn't disappointed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 September, 2012, 09:19:56 PM
And I am still waiting for subtitled screening!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 11 September, 2012, 09:47:18 PM
What channels the ad on?

Keeping my eyes on 5* as it's Sarah Connor, hoping they might have thought to link it up. Plus kickass Summer Glau makes for a good time whiling away the mins until Dredd ad airs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pioneer on 11 September, 2012, 09:56:06 PM
Just come out of my second viewing in a pretty packed screening at the Empire in Poole, half priced Tuesdays but still quite promising. Audience were into it as well, plenty of laughs at the relevant moments (some at the adverts at the beginning as well but we won't go into that!)

Thoroughly enjoyed it second time around, still missed Goaty and Joe Soaps moments of fame! (any pointers on that?) Only downside was my 3D glasses could've done with a wet wipe, third time lucky though eh!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 September, 2012, 10:40:37 PM
That's awesome behind the scenes photo;

(http://i.imgur.com/7PIdp.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 11 September, 2012, 11:00:00 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 September, 2012, 09:19:56 PM
And I am still waiting for subtitled screening!

How long do you normally have to wait for subtitles with any given film Goaty?

#Pioneer -Glad to hear that news
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 September, 2012, 11:05:04 PM
Two or three weeks...

Only way you would knows there will be subtitled screening of that film by the trailer appears in this site;

http://www.yourlocalcinema.com/subtitled.trailers.html (http://www.yourlocalcinema.com/subtitled.trailers.html)

Still no Dredd... But they just put in fucking Sweeney trailer tonight!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 11 September, 2012, 11:29:17 PM
A quick glance of #Dredd3D on Twitter brings a smile to the face.Universal acclaim from all who've seen it and lots of excited anticipation from those who haven't.

Really think Dredd could open BIG in the US now!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 11 September, 2012, 11:37:53 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 11 September, 2012, 11:29:17 PM
A quick glance of #Dredd3D on Twitter brings a smile to the face.Universal acclaim from all who've seen it and lots of excited anticipation from those who haven't.

Really think Dredd could open BIG in the US now!

Here's hoping. Getting nervous. The Stallone movie casts a looooooooooong shadow, it would seem, when I talk** to people over here about it.

(**Annoy people by incessantly talking about Dredd.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 September, 2012, 11:51:01 PM
It's all up to you Mick...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 11 September, 2012, 11:51:28 PM
Does it really? Most people I talk to think of Judge Dredd like any other cheesy but somewhat fondly remembered 90s action movie, like Demolition Man or something. Plus, that said, we got these blockbuster Batman movies after the cheesy Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, it's been long enough I'd say.

As for how well the movie will do over here, if I had to guess I'll say well, but probably not a huge blockbuster. I could see it reaching an audience similar to, say, Sin City which made 74 million in the US.

On the other hand, say, there's Scott Pilgrim which only made $31 mil. Still can't believe that, everybody loves it. It really is tough to predict these things.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 September, 2012, 12:00:11 AM
Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 11 September, 2012, 11:51:28 PM
Does it really? Most people I talk to think of Judge Dredd like any other cheesy but somewhat fondly remembered 90s action movie, like Demolition Man or something.


Would that push them to see what they might consider a 'remake'?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 12 September, 2012, 12:09:38 AM
Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 11 September, 2012, 11:51:28 PM
Does it really? Most people I talk to think of Judge Dredd like any other cheesy but somewhat fondly remembered 90s action movie, like Demolition Man or something. Plus, that said, we got these blockbuster Batman movies after the cheesy Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, it's been long enough I'd say.

As for how well the movie will do over here, if I had to guess I'll say well, but probably not a huge blockbuster. I could see it reaching an audience similar to, say, Sin City which made 74 million in the US.

On the other hand, say, there's Scott Pilgrim which only made $31 mil. Still can't believe that, everybody loves it. It really is tough to predict these things.

The sad part is most people think this is a remake of Demolition Man. Haha! Everyone gets them mixed up. "Does this one have the three shells joke?" I gave up trying to explain Dredd's history and legacy and just tell them I've seen the movie, it's fucking great, it deserves some love and they should go see it.

Sin City went and made some money but somehow the books made a dent into the mainstream long before it was filmed so it had a hook when it came to box office. Scott Pilgrim was always going to be a tougher sell because it's pretty clearly not very serious and people just thought it looked silly. Myself included. Haven't seen it. Probably should but something about that little fuckstick who plays the same thing every movie he's in just rendered it toxic to me. I should get over that, I guess.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 12 September, 2012, 12:10:35 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 September, 2012, 11:51:01 PM
It's all up to you Mick...

Doing what I can Joe. Doing what I can. Feel like I'm bringing the law to the lawless though...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 September, 2012, 12:13:08 AM
I'm not at all surprised Scott Pilgrim flopped. It was a teen movie that only appealed to 30-something male nerds. Hardly a recipe for success.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 September, 2012, 12:13:17 AM
I can see why Scott Pilgrim failed, it's entertaining but rather aimless and spent too much time, and money, being so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 12 September, 2012, 12:18:01 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 September, 2012, 12:00:11 AMWould that push them to see what they might consider a 'remake'?

That's a tricky one, with say The Expendables being so popular with 90s guys like Van Damme, it does seem like there's a potential market for any and all action movies. People not familiar seeing this is the same character as the in a random Stallone movie, I don't think that'd do to much to hurt it. If anything, recognition at least puts it above a random sci-fi flick like say Lockout, in market stuff. All said, it really is tough to predict if a movie will do well.

Quote from: blackmocco on 12 September, 2012, 12:09:38 AMThe sad part is most people think this is a remake of Demolition Man. Haha! Everyone gets them mixed up. "Does this one have the three shells joke?" I gave up trying to explain Dredd's history and legacy and just tell them I've seen the movie, it's fucking great, it deserves some love and they should go see it.
---
Scott Pilgrim was always going to be a tougher sell because it's pretty clearly not very serious and people just thought it looked silly. Myself included. Haven't seen it. Probably should but something about that little fuckstick who plays the same thing every movie he's in just rendered it toxic to me. I should get over that, I guess.
It's funny because it's true, Demolition Man and 90s Dredd will always be confused.  :D And I really recommend Scott Pilgrim. I'm not a huge fan of Michael Cera or "teen stuff", but I mean... need I mention it's by the guy who made Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz?

Anyways, I'll be getting my friends at least to see Dredd next Friday, so I'm doing what I can for the box office.  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 12 September, 2012, 03:07:10 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 11 September, 2012, 09:06:26 PM
... I'm not going to elaborate as the spoiler tags don't work on mobile devices ...

Spoiler tags work fine on my Android.  Perhaps you have one of those dodgy fruit-based mobile devices?   ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HdE on 12 September, 2012, 04:31:56 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 September, 2012, 12:00:11 AM
Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 11 September, 2012, 11:51:28 PM
Does it really? Most people I talk to think of Judge Dredd like any other cheesy but somewhat fondly remembered 90s action movie, like Demolition Man or something.


Would that push them to see what they might consider a 'remake'?

This is what concerns me, somewhat.

I've fielded some pretty odd questions about the movie from friends. Top of the list is 'will I like it?' (How the f*ck would * I * know?) but edging close behind that are 'Does it carry on from the last one?' and 'How does it work without Stallone?'

These questions beggar belief. Stallone is not, never was, and never conceivably COULD BE Dredd. So if folks insist on referencing that diabolical movie when they talk to me about this FANTASTIC new one, what conclusions are we to draw about their perception of Judge Dredd?

I've even heard self-professed comics fans slating this movie because its 'not in keeping with the original 95 movie, and not true to the spirit of Judge Dredd.'

Whaaaaaaaaat?!  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 12 September, 2012, 05:47:58 AM
It took a couple of phone calls and emails but now it's official: DREDD will be shown in my town 14 of October! A bit late to the party, but still MEGA!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 12 September, 2012, 07:41:58 AM
..a blackberry? Don't bash Apple. The Lawgiver was designed on one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 September, 2012, 08:21:14 AM
It's tapatalk rather than the device itself...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 12 September, 2012, 08:23:33 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 12 September, 2012, 12:09:38 AM
The sad part is most people think this is a remake of Demolition Man. Haha! Everyone gets them mixed up.

yeah, one review I read had the obligatory paragraph mocking the previous movie, particularly mentioning the codpiece and... Wesley Snipe's hair. *sigh*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 12 September, 2012, 08:29:50 AM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 12 September, 2012, 08:23:33 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 12 September, 2012, 12:09:38 AM
The sad part is most people think this is a remake of Demolition Man. Haha! Everyone gets them mixed up.

yeah, one review I read had the obligatory paragraph mocking the previous movie, particularly mentioning the codpiece and... Wesley Snipe's hair. *sigh*

And these people call themselves film fanatics (otherwise they wouldn't be a 'critic').. Is there a linky?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 12 September, 2012, 09:41:25 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 12 September, 2012, 03:07:10 AM
Spoiler tags work fine on my Android.  Perhaps you have one of those dodgy fruit-based mobile devices?   ;)

And on my iPhone. Must be a Blackberry. Do people still have those?

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 12 September, 2012, 09:44:52 AM
The tapatalk app doesn't show spoiler tags on the iPhone. Safari renders them fine
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 September, 2012, 11:21:20 AM
Dredd B-Roll footage;

Nice Lawsmaster at action!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YFshggQM88 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YFshggQM88)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 12 September, 2012, 11:31:00 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 September, 2012, 11:21:20 AM
Dredd B-Roll footage; Nice Lawsmaster at action!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YFshggQM88 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YFshggQM88)
With added screengrabs on page 542 of this thread.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 12 September, 2012, 12:36:41 PM
This might make a certain person happy(and so it should!)

From Facebook:"Looking at the footage of the Lawgiver firing, and the action of the slide kicking back like that. Looks counterweighted; to reduce recoil somehow, perhaps?

Whoever designed that built one sweet gun."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 12 September, 2012, 01:26:39 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 12 September, 2012, 12:36:41 PM
This might make a certain person happy(and so it should!)

From Facebook:"Looking at the footage of the Lawgiver firing, and the action of the slide kicking back like that. Looks counterweighted; to reduce recoil somehow, perhaps?

Whoever designed that built one sweet gun."

(http://nick.mtvnimages.com/nicktoons-assets/shows/images/ren-stimpy/characters/character_thumb_stimpy.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 12 September, 2012, 01:56:51 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 08 September, 2012, 09:49:14 AM
Quote from: Mudcrab on 07 September, 2012, 11:41:20 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 07 September, 2012, 11:13:56 PM
Quote from: Pioneer on 07 September, 2012, 10:43:15 PM
Just got back myself and am still in awe, and am most definitely in to contribute a tenner for you Fishy! No Dredd fan should be in the position you are in.

Also don't cancel that subscription, that's a madness right there! ;)

That's really kind, thank you.

I will think about it over the weekend,  I was feeling really annoyed about it earlier.   At the mo I just feel acceptance that I'm not seeing it but I am upset at them or thinking about the less able eyed.  I see what people say About it not being rebellion.  Mind you I tweeted and they ignored so I don't think they really care what a view folk with visual impairments think.   I will give it some though.

Good to see you're calming down on the point Fishy, I'd contribute too (as well as a reshowing next year for those too young now!) if you'd accept it, have fond memories of the banter amongst us aquatic boarders from long ago  ;)

I totally see your point and completely agree there should be more 2d showings. Hopefully that'll come with time over the coming weeks. There was a lot of great 3d work in the film (way better than Prometheus, which is the only other one I've seen), but it does distract and a film should be able to stand on its own, which I think it will (aside from the odd bit of obviousness, hard to say without seeing it in 2d).

Thank you. Yeah it does sound like they at least did it properly for those who can enjoy it.

I'm thinking alightly differently now and thinking the best way i can protest is by investing nothing in the film itself and simply not seeing it until it is on free tv in a couple of years.   They might care really but if everyone who feels strongly did the same then they'd notice.

I'll also see if Rebellion ever make any comment on the impact cutting out non-stereoscopic viewers has (lots of people can't see it and are venting it) before deciding if i cancel the subs.

A Peter Fish has given Dredd a zero star review on Vue Cinema site without even watching the film!Complained that it was just shown in 3D, bang out of order, I've reported it as abuse-you can't give ZERO stars to a film you haven't even seen!Had could you do that as a 2000ad fan?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 September, 2012, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 12 September, 2012, 01:56:51 PM
A Peter Fish has given Dredd a zero star review on Vue Cinema site without even watching the film!Complained that it was just shown in 3D, bang out of order, I've reported it as abuse-you can't give ZERO stars to a film you haven't even seen!Had could you do that as a 2000ad fan?

what a cunt!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 September, 2012, 02:05:49 PM
Can't stop listening to this song: http://youtu.be/I2dfGC1oziE (http://youtu.be/I2dfGC1oziE)

Not sure if I really like the song, or because it reminds of Dredd shooting people in the face in slow motion. Or both.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 12 September, 2012, 02:53:10 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 12 September, 2012, 01:56:51 PM
A Peter Fish has given Dredd a zero star review on Vue Cinema site without even watching the film!Complained that it was just shown in 3D, bang out of order, I've reported it as abuse-you can't give ZERO stars to a film you haven't even seen!Had could you do that as a 2000ad fan?

Hmm. Haven't we just had a Fishy board member flounce off here over the whole 3D issue? I wonder if they are, perhaps, related...

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 September, 2012, 02:59:11 PM
Fishy indeed...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 September, 2012, 03:01:11 PM
Why does he do that, it's not film's fault, it the cinema!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 12 September, 2012, 03:31:16 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but when I watch a 3D movie I sometimes close one eye at the time to "rest" my eyesight. And when I do that, I see 2D.

Can't he watch it that way? 2D, but with a pare of cool 3D glasses on?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 12 September, 2012, 03:41:25 PM
Quote from: Borntohula on 12 September, 2012, 03:31:16 PM
Can't he watch it that way? 2D, but with a pare of cool 3D glasses on?

Yes. He could do the 'two left lenses' trick, or he could mask off one lens completely, and see straight 2D.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 12 September, 2012, 03:49:35 PM
or buy 2 pairs of glasses and swap the eye on one side to the lens on the other  so you have a pair of 2d 3d specs :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 September, 2012, 03:52:01 PM
http://www.2d-glasses.com/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 September, 2012, 04:03:46 PM
There were a number of suggestions/questions but he seemed set on being pissed off about it.

It's only a film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 12 September, 2012, 04:31:21 PM
He must have hated it when CD's replaced records.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 12 September, 2012, 04:34:30 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 September, 2012, 03:01:11 PMWhy does he do that, it's not film's fault, it the cinema!
Ish. Vue and Odeon have both told me 2D prints were not made available to them. No idea how much truth there is in that, mind. Still, given the positive response, even I'm now considering braving a 3D showing, although if it makes my brain explode I won't be too thrilled (and nor, I imagine, will by fellow movie-goers).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 12 September, 2012, 04:36:35 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 12 September, 2012, 04:34:30 PMif it makes my brain explode I won't be too thrilled (and nor, I imagine, will by fellow movie-goers).

Are you kidding? They'll be spilling out of the cinema proclaiming they'd seen the best 3D ever!

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 12 September, 2012, 04:37:42 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 12 September, 2012, 04:34:30 PMif it makes my brain explode

Also, you may have mixed up watching 3D movies with microwaving your head. I'd watch out for that.

Cheers!

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 September, 2012, 04:38:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu0R96OZy6w
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 12 September, 2012, 04:50:48 PM
Quote from: HdE on 12 September, 2012, 04:31:56 AM
These questions beggar belief. Stallone is not, never was, and never conceivably COULD BE Dredd.

Now, I know that movie is not liked by most fans, and this isn't the topic on it, but I disagree quite a bit. I mean, anybody who likes Ron Smith Dredd, or much of the intentionally campy Dredd strips from the 70s and 80s, the ones where Dredd is pompous with chest puffed out... Stallone is perfect for that. His bombastic approach captured a lot about the comics for me (though the movie went in a different direction asap). His scowl and way of yelling actually makes sense with how Dredd is often drawn yelling mouth wide open with exclamation points. And yes, he played Judge Dredd, if only briefly, in one particular version. Just sayin'.

Urban is a better choice for the less talkative modern version of Dredd, for sure, but even he is doing one particular style that can't capture all of the comics. But of course, I can't wait to see it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 12 September, 2012, 04:51:51 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 12 September, 2012, 01:26:39 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 12 September, 2012, 12:36:41 PM
This might make a certain person happy(and so it should!)

From Facebook:"Looking at the footage of the Lawgiver firing, and the action of the slide kicking back like that. Looks counterweighted; to reduce recoil somehow, perhaps?

Whoever designed that built one sweet gun."

(http://nick.mtvnimages.com/nicktoons-assets/shows/images/ren-stimpy/characters/character_thumb_stimpy.jpg)


You already have a disciple.

http://youtu.be/SA4-YM7GLZs (http://youtu.be/SA4-YM7GLZs)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 12 September, 2012, 04:56:49 PM
http://youtu.be/XBqJI920W9U (http://youtu.be/XBqJI920W9U)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 September, 2012, 04:59:18 PM
Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 12 September, 2012, 04:50:48 PM
Quote from: HdE on 12 September, 2012, 04:31:56 AM
These questions beggar belief. Stallone is not, never was, and never conceivably COULD BE Dredd.

Now, I know that movie is not liked by most fans, and this isn't the topic on it, but I disagree quite a bit. I mean, anybody who likes Ron Smith Dredd, or much of the intentionally campy Dredd strips from the 70s and 80s, the ones where Dredd is pompous with chest puffed out... Stallone is perfect for that. His bombastic approach captured a lot about the comics for me (though the movie went in a different direction asap). His scowl and way of yelling actually makes sense with how Dredd is often drawn yelling mouth wide open with exclamation points. And yes, he played Judge Dredd, if only briefly, in one particular version. Just sayin'.



The most unfortunate thing being that anytime Stallone opened his mouth his speech impediment and wonky lip made anything authoritive look and sound comical.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 12 September, 2012, 05:08:48 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 September, 2012, 04:59:18 PM
The most unfortunate thing being that anytime Stallone opened his mouth his speech impediment and wonky lip made anything authoritive look and sound comical.

While I disagree that Stallone's can't be taken seriously, he's given good performances, Dredd himself in the comics was often portrayed very similarly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 September, 2012, 05:11:21 PM
Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 12 September, 2012, 05:08:48 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 September, 2012, 04:59:18 PM
The most unfortunate thing being that anytime Stallone opened his mouth his speech impediment and wonky lip made anything authoritive look and sound comical.

While I disagree that Stallone's can't be taken seriously, he's given good performances, Dredd himself in the comics was often portrayed very similarly.

No.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 12 September, 2012, 05:13:05 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 September, 2012, 05:11:21 PMNo.

Yes. What makes you say so? It's always odd to me that some fans think there is only one particular "right" zone for Dredd. When you take a look at all the different styles of stories with all the different art styles, there is so much. A lot of Dredd is cartoony where Dredd is indeed supposed to look silly. Is this news?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 12 September, 2012, 05:17:51 PM
Stallone may have been a little bit like the character that appears in some early Dredd strips for maybe 5 mins but for the majority of the film the character bore no relation to version of Dredd I've seen, not even the lawman of the future one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 12 September, 2012, 05:20:16 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 12 September, 2012, 05:17:51 PM
Stallone may have been a little bit like the character that appears in some early Dredd strips for maybe 5 mins but for the majority of the film the character bore no relation to version of Dredd I've seen, not even the lawman of the future one.

Agreed, for most of it he's just a typical Stallone character. But the guy who said, too lazy to quote directly again but "Stallone was never Dredd and could never conceivably be Dredd", well that guy was wrong. We can blame the movie for plenty of things, but for me the casting of Stallone was excellent. As is the casting of Urban. Kind of like how Gibson and Jock both draw Dredd well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 September, 2012, 05:28:30 PM
I think there's some denial going in some quarters.

Dredd could be a bit of a nob in the early stories, 'Judge Dredd is here' hands on hips after quitting in the Robot Wars, his coolness under fire in the Statue of Judgment is not far from the derided 'flechette rounds' speech he gives during the Block War in the '95 film.

There's plenty of pompous bellowing in the strip before modern Dredd, which was fine in the comic but cringeworthy on screen.

But I agree, once the uniform comes off it doesn't even have that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 12 September, 2012, 07:17:56 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 September, 2012, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 12 September, 2012, 01:56:51 PM
A Peter Fish has given Dredd a zero star review on Vue Cinema site without even watching the film!Complained that it was just shown in 3D, bang out of order, I've reported it as abuse-you can't give ZERO stars to a film you haven't even seen!Had could you do that as a 2000ad fan?

what a cunt!

His 'review' has been taken down off the site now :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 12 September, 2012, 10:11:06 PM
Goaty -

Subtitled Dredd - looks like there's a showing in Greenwich Odeon : http://www.londonnet.co.uk/cinema/greenwichodeon.html (http://www.londonnet.co.uk/cinema/greenwichodeon.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 12 September, 2012, 10:14:08 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 12 September, 2012, 02:53:10 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 12 September, 2012, 01:56:51 PM
A Peter Fish has given Dredd a zero star review on Vue Cinema site without even watching the film!Complained that it was just shown in 3D, bang out of order, I've reported it as abuse-you can't give ZERO stars to a film you haven't even seen!Had could you do that as a 2000ad fan?

Hmm. Haven't we just had a Fishy board member flounce off here over the whole 3D issue? I wonder if they are, perhaps, related...

Cheers

Jim

I might be pissed off but I am not that big a twat.  No it was not me.  I would never review a film I have not seen.  Ive never reviewed a film to be honest.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 12 September, 2012, 10:15:11 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 12 September, 2012, 04:51:51 PM


You already have a disciple.

http://youtu.be/SA4-YM7GLZs (http://youtu.be/SA4-YM7GLZs)

Have you got any idea how surreal that is?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 September, 2012, 10:16:58 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 12 September, 2012, 10:14:08 PM
I might be pissed off but I am not that big a twat.  No it was not me.  I would never review a film I have not seen.  Ive never reviewed a film to be honest.


Welcome back.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 12 September, 2012, 10:19:13 PM
I popped in to see if there's any news on a wider 2d release yet.

I might be annoyed but I still desperately want to see it.  Nothing yet though sadly.

I wasn't expecting to have to reply but it wasn't nice to see my name being associated with that sort of behaviour.  I've been around for years and hoped those who knew me would know I've never shown abusing of being a spiteful cunt like that.

So I had to at least defend myself.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 12 September, 2012, 10:20:02 PM
That should say "any sign of".  Doh.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 September, 2012, 10:24:22 PM
I'm sure more 2D screenings will follow.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 12 September, 2012, 10:26:25 PM
I'm resigned to a home view now, enough said on than.  I just wanted to make sure folk knew I had nothing to do with the bullshit.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 12 September, 2012, 10:50:54 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 11 September, 2012, 08:24:37 PMBoth wifey and I thought it a shame they went for the stupid swearing though. Without it, the gore would have made it a '15' and possibly doubled the box office. Dredd saying "shit" was just... wrong.

Seriously doubt it. Swearing barely registers in film ratings any more. The F-Word is about as shocking as 'bottom' or 'poo' these days. Even my (75 year old, rather old fashioned) mother has given up being shocked by it in the last few years. Give it another decade and it'll be acceptable for the PM to use it during Prime Minister's question time, provided it's used as part of a slightly amusing put-down to the opposition, of course.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 12 September, 2012, 11:23:38 PM
Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 12 September, 2012, 05:20:16 PMAgreed, for most of it he's just a typical Stallone character. But the guy who said, too lazy to quote directly again but "Stallone was never Dredd and could never conceivably be Dredd", well that guy was wrong. We can blame the movie for plenty of things, but for me the casting of Stallone was excellent. As is the casting of Urban. Kind of like how Gibson and Jock both draw Dredd well.

The casing of Stallone was a phenomenally bad move for a variety of reasons, most of them having little to do with his acting. I stopped following the production of that movie the moment the casting was announced. At that point I knew it would suck. Being a Dredd fan, I went to see it anyway, of course. Despite knowing basically nothing about it (other than that Stallone was Dredd) it was almost exactly what I expected.

Perhaps Stallone could, as you say, portray a version of Dredd but it was never going to be a version of Dredd that would make for a decent Dredd movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 12 September, 2012, 11:29:36 PM
Just to say btw, I think there are more 2d prints in the wild now.

Looking like a town we can get to has it and it's is in three others nearbye now.  So looks like ,as someone said, they held them back to maximise launch weekend.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 12 September, 2012, 11:32:20 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 12 September, 2012, 11:29:36 PM
Just to say btw, I think there are more 2d prints in the wild now.

Looking like a town we can get to has it and it's is in three others nearbye now.  So looks like ,as someone said, they held them back to maximise launch weekend.

Hope you get to see it soon, then.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DrRocka on 13 September, 2012, 12:14:15 AM
This may be nonsense, and I'll sure someone'll put me right if so, but is the reason for such a limited 2d release designed to cut down on badly recorded copes leaking onto the internet prior to the U.S. release? I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot more cinemas showing 2d performances once it's out over there...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 September, 2012, 12:34:36 AM
Maybe, that and that the cinema can charge more for 3D so naturally they go for that option.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 13 September, 2012, 01:32:27 AM
Yeah, I'd go with the "makes them more money" answer over the anti-piracy one.  Pirate copies of movies are usually of a pretty dreadful visual quality anyway, so I don't see a rip of a 3d movie being that much worse.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 13 September, 2012, 05:33:12 AM
Given that most big blockbusters look better in 2D (having been shot for that format) it makes sense to have a lot of 2D prints plus some (hastily) post-converted 3D ones, just to maximise income.  Post-conversion makes for terrible 3D because the focus is usually all wrong.

However, presuming that film distributors are not all money-grabbing bastards, there is the possibility that Dredd's mostly-3D release was an artistic decision, based on the fact that the movie was designed & shot in 3D and that 3D is the best viewing format for it.

If I remember correctly, John Carter* was also designed as a 3D project (although much of it was post-converted), and that movie was also relatively hard to find in 2D.

Can't remember whether Transformers 3 was similar, but quite a bit of that was shot on 3D camera rigs; it was certainly CGI rendered for 3D.  Then again, given the expected box office, they would have probably hedged their bets.


* (Which was very unfairly labelled by frenzied media as a massive flop.  They seem to only ever quote the US box office of $78M, yet the movie made $250M outside the US.  That makes it break even, if you discount the expensive (and very poor) advertising campaign.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karl on 13 September, 2012, 08:42:37 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 13 September, 2012, 05:33:12 AM
* (Which was very unfairly labelled by frenzied media as a massive flop.  They seem to only ever quote the US box office of $78M, yet the movie made $250M outside the US.  That makes it break even, if you discount the expensive (and very poor) advertising campaign.)

Except half of that went to theatres, not the studio. You also have to pay for that very expensive ad campaign, which can be tens or hundreds of millions of dollars extra.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 September, 2012, 09:05:22 AM
Yeah I think Disney admitted that they lost something like $200m on John Carter.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 September, 2012, 09:07:43 AM
Good grud.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 13 September, 2012, 09:21:43 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 13 September, 2012, 05:33:12 AM
Post-conversion makes for terrible 3D because the focus is usually all wrong.

Didn't Alex Garland say that this was completely untrue in practice. Some early post converted films were like this because they were rushed out to be in the cinema with Avatar but there is little difference if done right
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 September, 2012, 09:53:42 AM
Can't believe the Dredd poster I created was used in this CBM article!

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/CaptainDC10/news/?a=67133#hmOvYVcCLz86wMSy.99 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/CaptainDC10/news/?a=67133#hmOvYVcCLz86wMSy.99)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 13 September, 2012, 09:55:32 AM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 12 September, 2012, 11:32:20 PM

Hope you get to see it soon, then.

Thank you.  Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 13 September, 2012, 10:28:02 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 13 September, 2012, 09:53:42 AM
Can't believe the Dredd poster I created was used in this CBM article!

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/CaptainDC10/news/?a=67133#hmOvYVcCLz86wMSy.99 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/CaptainDC10/news/?a=67133#hmOvYVcCLz86wMSy.99)

Congrats Goaty!  That pic has also been gracing my iPad and Facebook page ever since you first posted it.  It is bloody awesome!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 13 September, 2012, 10:53:14 AM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 13 September, 2012, 01:32:27 AMYeah, I'd go with the "makes them more money" answer over the anti-piracy one.
Low budget; niche property; 3D, despite being made for $45m; the kind of film that probably won't have the long tail of the likes of Brave. That all points to a good reason to go for 3D saturation and higher ticket price-points. As for more 2D prints, I live in hope, but I just checked next week's local times in the nearest 11 multiplexes and the only change right now is a small reduction in showtimes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 September, 2012, 11:15:46 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 13 September, 2012, 10:28:02 AM
Congrats Goaty!  That pic has also been gracing my iPad and Facebook page ever since you first posted it.  It is bloody awesome!

Thanks! It's on my iPhone, my iPad, my work iMac screen! Awesome, here the picture to see what I talks about...?

(http://i.imgur.com/H0cPk.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 13 September, 2012, 01:42:40 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 12 September, 2012, 04:31:21 PM
He must have hated it when CD's replaced records.
Well no, as i have a visual not hearing disability.

That seemed like the sort of post that's just put up to have a pop at somebody for the sake of it, without any consideration of context.

Anyway, very pleased that somehow the local chain (Merlin) must be using Cineworld if they are the one with 2d prints, as they have a few copies across the area.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 13 September, 2012, 01:47:20 PM
A question - it it worth trekking to Bolton Vue to see Dredd in "extreme" - it's still Real3D,not that cool sounding shutter thingy, so is it likley to be any better quality, or just a bigger screen?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 13 September, 2012, 02:01:28 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 September, 2012, 03:52:01 PM
http://www.2d-glasses.com/

At the risk of sounding stupid... are these real?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 September, 2012, 02:04:56 PM
I saw Dredd at a Vue Xtreme and thought it was tremendous. Bigger screen, brighter, sharper picture and crisper, louder sound. It made the film itself look better imo. The 3d was much better than my previous screening(s).

I'd say go for it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 September, 2012, 02:07:18 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 13 September, 2012, 02:01:28 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 September, 2012, 03:52:01 PM
http://www.2d-glasses.com/

At the risk of sounding stupid... are these real?


Yes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 13 September, 2012, 02:11:33 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 13 September, 2012, 01:47:20 PM
A question - it it worth trekking to Bolton Vue to see Dredd in "extreme" - it's still Real3D,not that cool sounding shutter thingy, so is it likley to be any better quality, or just a bigger screen?

I haven't been but from what radiator describes it sounds like an IMAX-style affair. IMAX is still the tinted, non-active glasses but the size of the screen and the higher resolution makes 3D look waaaaaaaay better, so it sounds worth it. If the sound is anything like IMAX then it'll be stupendous.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 September, 2012, 02:13:57 PM
It's not IMAX size, but is bigger than the average screen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 13 September, 2012, 02:36:33 PM
Cheers Radiator. Might make a trip to Bolton at the weekend then for viewing number 3!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 13 September, 2012, 02:50:21 PM
My work colleagues have decided to turn the tables on my Dredd enthusiasm.  I emailed this to a few guys earlier:

Quote
I don't know if you guys noticed, but Dredd is the first 18 cert film to top the UK box office in 2 years!

Also, Rotten Tomatoes has declared it 'Certified Fresh', with a comment that it is the best comic book to film adaptation EVER!

Plus I found this great quote on the 'Ain't It Cool' website review:

'I love that we live in an era when  we can bring the full force of millions of CPU hours of computational power, Oscar-winning brainpower, and dozens of CG artists to get exactly the right kind of slow motion head explosion.'

Can't say fairer than that! 

So have you seen it yet?!?

I got these responses:

http://qkme.me/3qw12v

then:

http://qkme.me/3qw1lj

and finally:

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I seen it last night Dave

Thought it was alright, if you like that type of thing. Urban was not a patch on Sly for me, very poor. 

Why does he speak like Batman and walk like Robocop has he pooed himself? Wooden is not the word, give me Keanu any day of the week.

The drug SLO-MO, I appreciate trying to be quirky but COME ON director how to milk it and show off, shocking.

Females need to be more smoking hot and if it's an 18 I wanna see more flesh for my money.

3D had to come out the screen to wake me up, zzzzzzzzzzzz. I haven't drifted off so much since the Flintstones – Viva Rock Vegas.

' with a comment that it is the best comic book to film adaptation EVER!' – COME ON MATE HAVE YOU SEEN THE PHANTOM WITH BILLY ZANE?

Worse money I spent all year and I seen Battleship.

Sorry mate, but can't please everyone.

Bastards.   :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 September, 2012, 02:58:48 PM
Hrmph... Splody heads were practical effects..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 September, 2012, 03:02:12 PM
shaolin monkey, at least they're only colleagues.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 13 September, 2012, 03:04:03 PM
I always make sure to use the Arnold Rimmer gambit in such situations

'Over the years, I've come to regard you as ... people .. I met'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 13 September, 2012, 03:47:01 PM
IGN - Dredd - How To Do A Reboot Right http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/09/13/dredd-how-to-do-a-reboot-right
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 13 September, 2012, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 September, 2012, 03:02:12 PM
shaolin monkey, at least they're only colleagues.

They did it deliberately to wind me up, particularly the last one, which I thought was hysterically funny (although my immediate email response was 'oh piss off'). 

QuoteWorse money I spent all year and I seen Battleship.

I thought that was so funny.

As it turned out, he was really impressed by it and particularly loved the bit where [spoiler]Dredd took out the Judge with Hi-Ex.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: auxlen on 13 September, 2012, 04:58:51 PM
just got back from my 3rd viewing at liverpool edge lane (it's mah burfdee). it was 2pm and i think 8 people, i am now officially skint but i enjoyed that showing the best i think. dont know why.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 13 September, 2012, 05:11:30 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 13 September, 2012, 04:44:34 PM
As it turned out, he was really impressed by it and particularly loved the bit...

This isn't the spoilers thread -- remember we have forum members in lots of places the film hasn't opened yet.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 13 September, 2012, 06:26:16 PM
That poster shot of Dredd, but with a certain flag under his feet.

(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/603274_367316863347619_162659610_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 September, 2012, 06:29:54 PM
Wow, where that from, CN?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 13 September, 2012, 06:37:27 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 September, 2012, 02:58:48 PM
Hrmph... Splody heads were practical effects..

Damn, I was hoping you'd taken out a few punks...for real!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 13 September, 2012, 06:38:05 PM
oops! It's from one of the on-set photographers

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Joe-Alblas/108703635875611
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 September, 2012, 06:40:37 PM
Wow... I like this alt poster!

Is it okay I use it at other forum?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 13 September, 2012, 06:41:26 PM
Oh I do like that,very dark.A little skyline,a dash of the Statue of Liberty in the background and instant classic.Not sure how it would go down across the pond though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 September, 2012, 07:01:28 PM
Hot Ma-Ma!
(http://i.imgur.com/HjwYx.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 13 September, 2012, 07:07:06 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 13 September, 2012, 06:41:26 PM
Oh I do like that,very dark.A little skyline,a dash of the Statue of Liberty in the background and instant classic.Not sure how it would go down across the pond though.

We all have American flag carpets, we step on them all the time, it's no biggie. And hey that looks a bit like the opening page from America, classy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Proudhuff on 13 September, 2012, 07:09:14 PM
Olivia Thirlby talks to 2000adonline.com about her role as Judge Anderson in DREDD 3D"


'The costume was great fun. Once I put it on it left little to the imagination in terms of assuming the role and persona of Anderson. Still, most of time, as soon as they called 'Cut!' I was tearing it off and collapsing in front of a fan'. 

okay so who won THAT competition?  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 13 September, 2012, 07:20:36 PM
We all win.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 13 September, 2012, 07:31:35 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 13 September, 2012, 06:38:05 PM
oops! It's from one of the on-set photographers

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Joe-Alblas/108703635875611

I can't find anything on his page, did you get them from somewhere else?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 13 September, 2012, 07:40:56 PM
The flag image was on his FB wall for an hour or so, then he removed it, but as long as it's still showing up in this thread the source is still active.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 13 September, 2012, 07:41:32 PM
Didn't realize most of Headey's tats are real. She just gets more and more awesome.

I've got a gap in the tattoos on one of my arms and I've banged on for years about how I've got an idea for sticking Judge Death in there. Seeing this movie it's really hit home just how important Dredd and 2000AD have been to me since childhood so I've decided not to wait any longer and get that booked in next month. So freaking excited.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 September, 2012, 07:43:47 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 13 September, 2012, 07:01:28 PM
Hot Ma-Ma!
(http://i.imgur.com/HjwYx.jpg)

I LOVE that pic!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 13 September, 2012, 07:47:56 PM
I wish they'd use Ma Ma a bit more in the advertising, maybe run some tv spots focusing on her and Anderson. The missus would be going to see it anyway being a Dredd film, but from the trailer she's seen the thing she raves about most is how badass Ma Ma looks. Can't help but think it would draw in more female viewers (and having some attractive ladies in your ads probably doesn't hurt with the male demographic either).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Proudhuff on 13 September, 2012, 07:49:43 PM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 13 September, 2012, 07:41:32 PM
Didn't realize most of Headey's tats are real. She just gets more and more awesome.

I've got a gap in the tattoos on one of my arms and I've banged on for years about how I've got an idea for sticking Judge Death in there. Seeing this movie it's really hit home just how important Dredd and 2000AD have been to me since childhood so I've decided not to wait any longer and get that booked in next month. So freaking excited.

There's a Justice Dept Approved stamp on the inside of the bumper Megazine that was also on the 100 cred note recently, that would be sooo much nicer than that nasty Judge Death
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 September, 2012, 09:18:08 PM
Just saw Dredd 3D TV advert, it says "Awesome"... did we 2000AD coin that word here, or was it me few week ago when I post it here and on Dredd 3D Facebook???
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 13 September, 2012, 09:25:00 PM
AWESOME

Awesome arose in 1598 England (Early Modern English)... added the word Awe + Some... meaning something that inspires awe

I think that's a no then  ;)

Now if it was spelt incorrectly.......
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 September, 2012, 09:26:10 PM
Damn, just that we said it a lots on here... just a thought!

But Dredd 3D still AWESOME!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 13 September, 2012, 09:28:56 PM
A forum member used to spell it incorrectly and Tharg took it up but he's not been around for a while.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 13 September, 2012, 09:39:51 PM
Separate postcodes soon  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 13 September, 2012, 10:50:27 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 13 September, 2012, 07:49:43 PM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 13 September, 2012, 07:41:32 PM
Didn't realize most of Headey's tats are real. She just gets more and more awesome.

I've got a gap in the tattoos on one of my arms and I've banged on for years about how I've got an idea for sticking Judge Death in there. Seeing this movie it's really hit home just how important Dredd and 2000AD have been to me since childhood so I've decided not to wait any longer and get that booked in next month. So freaking excited.

There's a Justice Dept Approved stamp on the inside of the bumper Megazine that was also on the 100 cred note recently, that would be sooo much nicer than that nasty Judge Death

That would indeed make a great tat!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 13 September, 2012, 11:51:08 PM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 13 September, 2012, 07:47:56 PM
I wish they'd use Ma Ma a bit more in the advertising, maybe run some tv spots focusing on her Ass.

FTFY
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 14 September, 2012, 04:01:43 AM
Quote from: strontium71 on 13 September, 2012, 09:39:51 PM
Separate postcodes soon  ::)

:|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 14 September, 2012, 10:21:54 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 13 September, 2012, 05:11:30 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 13 September, 2012, 04:44:34 PM
As it turned out, he was really impressed by it and particularly loved the bit...

This isn't the spoilers thread -- remember we have forum members in lots of places the film hasn't opened yet.

Cheers

Jim


Oh crap!  REALLY REALLY SORRY!!!  I plain forgot.  Sorry!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 14 September, 2012, 11:35:32 AM
off to see dredd later on today for the 2nd time cant wait i just picked up a daily star and got to page 10 and bang a full page advert for dredd sayin a lot of nice things  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 14 September, 2012, 12:19:28 PM
My local VUE has dropped Anna Karenia  down to one showing,Lawless down to three and UPPED Dredd to five! All second week films I think?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 September, 2012, 12:21:45 PM
Now this is a pleasing sight: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/books/503400/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_b_1_3_last (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/books/503400/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_b_1_3_last)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 14 September, 2012, 12:24:51 PM
Quote from: radiator on 14 September, 2012, 12:21:45 PM
Now this is a pleasing sight: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/books/503400/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_b_1_3_last (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/books/503400/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_b_1_3_last)
Just three in the top twenty that aren't 2000ad related,I include Watchmen in that.Might be DC but it has the delicious taste of a mature 2000ad vintage about it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 September, 2012, 12:24:59 PM
Now that's good news.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 14 September, 2012, 12:27:22 PM
Doh,just four^^ missed From Hell
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 14 September, 2012, 12:49:05 PM
Quote from: radiator on 14 September, 2012, 12:21:45 PM
Now this is a pleasing sight: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/books/503400/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_b_1_3_last (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/books/503400/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_b_1_3_last)
So that is great news in 'Bestsellers in Cult Graphic Novels'.

This is for 'Bestsellers in Comics & Graphic Novels'
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bestsellers-Books-Comics-Graphic-Novels/zgbs/books/274081/ref=zg_bs_unv_b_2_503400_1/278-2128288-4087713
Case files 1 is in second place, way above Walking Dead. Now surely that is an achievement.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 14 September, 2012, 12:57:30 PM
That is ace! Dominating. Hopefully the same thing will happen in the US.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 14 September, 2012, 02:14:50 PM
That's fantastic! I know a bunch of work folks who are now wanting to know where to start with the comics so it's hopefully gonna pull in new readers all over the place. I've mainly recommending they grab the latest Meg.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 September, 2012, 04:42:09 PM
Anyone know if Jock is doing a Mondo poster for the US?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 14 September, 2012, 05:05:51 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 14 September, 2012, 12:49:05 PM
Case files 1 is in second place, way above Walking Dead. Now surely that is an achievement.

now up to number one as of 5pm!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 14 September, 2012, 05:07:25 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 14 September, 2012, 05:05:51 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 14 September, 2012, 12:49:05 PM
Case files 1 is in second place, way above Walking Dead. Now surely that is an achievement.

now up to number one as of 5pm!

Now that's what you call Zarjaz!

And maybe arsom!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 14 September, 2012, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 14 September, 2012, 05:07:25 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 14 September, 2012, 05:05:51 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 14 September, 2012, 12:49:05 PM
Case files 1 is in second place, way above Walking Dead. Now surely that is an achievement.

now up to number one as of 5pm!

Now that's what you call Zarjaz!



And maybe arsom!

Arsjaz?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 14 September, 2012, 05:27:20 PM
Yep, all good news, so far.
Gonna be very interesting to watch what happens when Dredd lands stateside, isnt it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 14 September, 2012, 05:38:48 PM
Also nice to see that Case Files 2 is in the top 10 at number 7. Because for me at least, Case Files 2 is a lot more likely to grab a new reader than Case Files 1, what with The Cursed Earth, Day The Law Died, Punks Rule, etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 14 September, 2012, 06:09:23 PM
This film has been fantastic! Responsible for so many smiles over the last few months, this really is a wonderful time to be a Dredd fan!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buttonman on 14 September, 2012, 06:22:08 PM
Not sure I like all these new people jumping on board - where were they during 'Crusade' and 'Harry Snotter'?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 14 September, 2012, 06:28:38 PM
Third viewing tomorrow! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 14 September, 2012, 06:39:50 PM
Pleased to say, first viewing for us  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 14 September, 2012, 06:45:25 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 14 September, 2012, 06:39:50 PM
Pleased to say, first viewing for us  :)

Huzzah!Enjoy!(I know you will!)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 14 September, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
Judging by the reaction of every dredd fan there is no way I won't.

Can't wait.   So chuffed they got some old fashioned prints down here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 14 September, 2012, 06:52:36 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 14 September, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
Judging by the reaction of every dredd fan there is no way I won't.

Can't wait.   So chuffed they got some old fashioned prints down here.

Really pleased for you  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jay jay on 14 September, 2012, 06:59:59 PM
More DREDD concept art has been released.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=67223 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=67223)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 September, 2012, 07:13:10 PM
Quote from: jay jay on 14 September, 2012, 06:59:59 PM
More DREDD concept art has been released.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=67223 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=67223)

It's all on the concept art pages:

http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,36877.0/topicseen.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 14 September, 2012, 07:16:31 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 14 September, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
Judging by the reaction of every dredd fan there is no way I won't.

Can't wait.   So chuffed they got some old fashioned prints down here.

Yay! Really pleased you're getting to see it Fishy- and that you're still around hereabouts. Hope it lives up to your expectations.

I'm off for my third viewing in a bit, with a mate who last read the prog around 1992ish. Every year I buy him the end-of-year prog, though, so he's not been completely out of the loop.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 14 September, 2012, 07:17:58 PM
Hurrah for SBT  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 14 September, 2012, 08:21:52 PM
Cheers sbt and chuffy, appreciated  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 14 September, 2012, 08:35:39 PM
Have an awesome (arsom? Zarjaz?) time Fishy!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 14 September, 2012, 08:42:56 PM
Thank you.  I can't wait.  The wife is a bit blasé but that's because she only has the old movie as a reference.

This will change her mind.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 September, 2012, 08:45:15 PM
Someone has has been Tweeting photos of a bloke attending a screening of Dredd wearing a homemade, cardboard judge uniform.

Own up - which one of you is it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 14 September, 2012, 09:16:14 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 14 September, 2012, 06:39:50 PM
Pleased to say, first viewing for us  :)
Yay!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 14 September, 2012, 09:32:47 PM
Quote from: radiator on 14 September, 2012, 08:45:15 PM
Someone has has been Tweeting photos of a bloke attending a screening of Dredd wearing a homemade, cardboard judge uniform.

Own up - which one of you is it?

It wasn't Judge Burdis and Judge Court  ;)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/Empire%20screening/250302_10151196819281469_968710591_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 14 September, 2012, 10:38:49 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 14 September, 2012, 09:16:14 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 14 September, 2012, 06:39:50 PM
Pleased to say, first viewing for us  :)
Yay!

That's what i hope to be saying.

Reckon i will.

Whoever that Phil Fish was, not me i might add, i wait until i have seen a film before i judge it.

This is the film i have been waiting for a long time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 14 September, 2012, 10:46:18 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 14 September, 2012, 06:39:50 PM
Pleased to say, first viewing for us  :)

Yay! You're in for a treat.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 14 September, 2012, 10:53:51 PM
so glad you found a screening fishy. I never believed that ridiculous piscine conspiracy theory!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 September, 2012, 11:35:56 PM
Quote from: radiator on 14 September, 2012, 08:45:15 PM
Someone has has been Tweeting photos of a bloke attending a screening of Dredd wearing a homemade, cardboard judge uniform.

Own up - which one of you is it?

Dammit! Can't believe someone takes photograph of me!


;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 September, 2012, 12:29:39 AM
Whoever he is: bless'im.
Unless he actually is his Goatiness, in which case I say: "you're IN THE FILM: put the pizza-box shoulder-pads  away! or words to that effect...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 September, 2012, 01:26:37 AM
It just occurred to me that Karl was at the perfect age to play Dredd. He's was 40 when the film was released but he was 38 when they started filming.

Because the cloning scene in Origins was a little Vague, Dredd is somewhere between 38 and 40 during his first comic appearance (Dreddverse 2099). Assuming I didn't screw up the math, which wouldn't be unheard of.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 15 September, 2012, 04:29:07 AM
Fuck ORIGINS. Dredd is all the origin we need. I didn't grow up with 2000ad, but I have always kinda known Dredd. And enough people have loved this film who don't know him. An origin story would be the biggest waste ever. We only need to know one thing: http://youtu.be/jC2ZY2loo74 (http://youtu.be/jC2ZY2loo74)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 15 September, 2012, 07:17:34 AM
Origins is amazing though, one does not simply say "fuck origins".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judda fett on 15 September, 2012, 07:47:27 AM
yup, cant say fuck origins. its a bonefide classic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 15 September, 2012, 10:09:51 AM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 14 September, 2012, 10:53:51 PM
so glad you found a screening fishy. I never believed that ridiculous piscine conspiracy theory!

Cheers  :)

Ridiculous it was.  Upset I might have been and I might have expressed my upset to Rebellion but I didn't become insane and a liar overnight (well, ok insaner).

It was probably my low ebb on here I admit but my fading eyes are a source of huge worry and it sadly combined one of the things i was most excited for with the personal thing i'm most worried about hence the result
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hairwolf on 15 September, 2012, 10:13:37 AM
Quote from: judgefett on 15 September, 2012, 07:47:27 AM
yup, cant say fuck origins. its a bonefide classic.

Pretty much everything in origins would be great as a sequel, maybe combine it with elements of the pro democracy storylines or as I think Michael VK mentioned maybe something with Anderson and the mutants...there'd be so much to get your teeth into.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Radbacker on 15 September, 2012, 11:06:15 AM
man i just found out this doesnt hit OZ til October 25, I swear its been pushed back and still get blank looks when i ask my local cinema if theyre going to be playing it.  its those grud damn Tnhrillsuckers infecting this country i blame  :'(

Cu Radbacker
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 15 September, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
I found ORIGINS far from classic. Actually DULL in places.

Sorry.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 15 September, 2012, 03:07:53 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 15 September, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
I found ORIGINS far from classic. Actually DULL in places.

Sorry.

See, you can say you didn't like it, you can even call it 'a steaming pile of stomm', but you can't find it 'non classic'. Classic or not is a matter of consensus, not individual opinions. It's the nature of the beast. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 September, 2012, 03:39:13 PM
Someone else going a bit further with the costume...

http://www.therpf.com/f24/dredd-2012-finished-costume-pics-page-2-a-157169/

(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x44/davyjones_photos/P9120018.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 15 September, 2012, 03:50:56 PM
That is awesome work, thanks for the link too Steve
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 September, 2012, 03:53:28 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 15 September, 2012, 03:39:13 PM
Someone else going a bit further with the costume...

http://www.therpf.com/f24/dredd-2012-finished-costume-pics-page-2-a-157169/

(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x44/davyjones_photos/P9120018.jpg)

Wow... the latest Judge looks much better!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 15 September, 2012, 04:54:47 PM
 Great link Steve, cool picture.... OLD Dredd NEW Dredd

reminds me of when Dan Dare came back with the Lycra, cool top and  power glove- all thanks to the mekon. was it ?    (mind you i did like Dan Dare  before)  ive seen that character through a few changes- used to get my dads old Eagle comics .. im sure we will see Dredd going through more changes on screen  - just like the comic .
much prefer the new Dredd,  much more believable  ....Still they kneed to get the HELMET right for next movie

really like that concept art  topic
http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,36877.0.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge macbrayne on 15 September, 2012, 05:19:08 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 15 September, 2012, 03:50:56 PM
That is awesome work, thanks for the link too Steve
noo dont tell mae this is a gay weddin  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hoops on 15 September, 2012, 06:24:47 PM
Just back from seeing it ...FUCKING WOW! Immediately one of my favourite films ever...they totally nailed it across the board and the one sticking point with me, the bikes, actually looked pretty damn cool in action...i want to see it again, and again, and again and then some more...

Well done everyone involved!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 15 September, 2012, 06:48:03 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 15 September, 2012, 03:39:13 PM
Someone else going a bit further with the costume...

http://www.therpf.com/f24/dredd-2012-finished-costume-pics-page-2-a-157169/

(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x44/davyjones_photos/P9120018.jpg)
This just highlights how stupid the 95 costume looked.



V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 15 September, 2012, 07:03:02 PM
To be fair, the guy rocking the old costume's version is less well done than the new guy's one. In the 95 movie Dredd had a better looking helmet, bigger should pads, ha and various other things. Personally, I still love the giant shoulder pads, even the shiny ones from that movie. I do prefer the new movie's costume in a lot of ways though, especially the helmet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 15 September, 2012, 07:50:40 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 15 September, 2012, 06:48:03 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 15 September, 2012, 03:39:13 PM
Someone else going a bit further with the costume...

http://www.therpf.com/f24/dredd-2012-finished-costume-pics-page-2-a-157169/

(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x44/davyjones_photos/P9120018.jpg)
This just highlights how stupid the 95 costume looked.

lmfao when i 1st seen this pic how bad does the 95 costume look and it looks just that a costume were the costume in DREDD looks like a uniform i no if someone kicked my door in wearing the 95 one i would burst out laughing but if they was in the 2012 one i would shit myself haha  :D

V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 15 September, 2012, 08:02:25 PM
I wouldn't laugh at crazy people invading my house. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 September, 2012, 08:10:14 PM
At first glance I thought the Stallone one was a very bad waxwork  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hoops on 15 September, 2012, 08:19:21 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 September, 2012, 08:10:14 PM
At first glance I thought the Stallone one was a very bad waxwork  :o

:D Me too
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 15 September, 2012, 08:30:17 PM
Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 15 September, 2012, 08:02:25 PM
I wouldn't laugh at crazy people invading my house. :lol:
I would if they was dressed up like 95 dredd haha i mean look at the cod thingy mejig
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 15 September, 2012, 09:33:03 PM
Finally seen it. It was fantastic and the wife really enjoyed it too.

Everything I could have hoped for.  Deserves to do very well.

Cinema was a bit quiet but it was the old money version , the 3d screen looked much busier.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 15 September, 2012, 09:57:42 PM
actually saying that, about 30 people were in the line for the later 2d showing (only ten in with us at 6:30) but 3 times that for the 3d.  That has to bode well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 15 September, 2012, 10:09:25 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 15 September, 2012, 09:33:03 PM
Finally seen it. It was fantastic and the wife really enjoyed it too.

Everything I could have hoped for.  Deserves to do very well.

Cinema was a bit quiet but it was the old money version , the 3d screen looked much busier.

YES!!!Knew you would love it!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 15 September, 2012, 10:21:26 PM
Defence Noted.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 15 September, 2012, 10:22:33 PM
Nah seriously, i really did. I can't stop thinking about it now.

I shall still be following the old stoney face after all.  But i'm not re-subbing as i was just recycling them so i am going to use my ipad and get them that way and get to keep my collection.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 15 September, 2012, 10:26:56 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 15 September, 2012, 10:22:33 PM
Nah seriously, i really did. I can't stop thinking about it now.

I shall still be following the old stoney face after all.  But i'm not re-subbing as i was just recycling them so i am going to use my ipad and get them that way and get to keep my collection.

Good stuff  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 15 September, 2012, 11:08:25 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 15 September, 2012, 09:33:03 PM
Finally seen it. It was fantastic and the wife really enjoyed it too.

Everything I could have hoped for.  Deserves to do very well.

Cinema was a bit quiet but it was the old money version , the 3d screen looked much busier.

Glad you got to see it finally.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 15 September, 2012, 11:09:34 PM
Thank you, very worth the wait.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cookyman on 16 September, 2012, 01:12:05 AM
New US TV Dredd Trailer.

JUST DAMN AWESOME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mss_JGUMlg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mss_JGUMlg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 16 September, 2012, 01:16:02 AM
Nice trailer. I forgot to mention, when my boy saw Dredd today he said the cinema was pretty much full. Nice eh?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge macbrayne on 16 September, 2012, 01:02:44 PM
The yanks sure know how to sell a movie :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mudcrab on 16 September, 2012, 01:12:40 PM
 :lol: Best trailer ever!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 16 September, 2012, 01:47:26 PM
Dredd lands Stateside this coming Friday (21st), doesnt it?

Gonna be very interesting to see how well its received, and of course, what box office it does.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 16 September, 2012, 02:11:12 PM
That trailer is fantastic, it got me really excited and I've already seen the film repeatedly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 September, 2012, 02:12:36 PM
'a triumph for production designer Mark Digby' - Dredd review in Architects Journal. Apologies if posted already...http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/opinion/city-of-dredd/8635615.article?blocktitle=Opinion&contentID=5140
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 16 September, 2012, 02:31:49 PM
As much as people are quoting 'I am the law', now they're also quoting 'Yeah' - I'm loving that :) The first, a classic from the comic, and the second a classic already from the movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cactus on 16 September, 2012, 04:33:33 PM
Wait...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 September, 2012, 06:33:19 PM
As much as I love the bit where he goes "Save me an awful lot of paper work, if you just confess right now." Does Dredd actually have to do paperwork?

Was also a bit disappointed that he didn't call anyway one a creep.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 16 September, 2012, 06:56:42 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 September, 2012, 06:33:19 PM
As much as I love the bit where he goes "Save me an awful lot of paper work, if you just confess right now." Does Dredd actually have to do paperwork?

Yup he refers to it in several strips and on more than one occasion when he has worked with another judge, he uses his seniority to dump the paperwork on the other judge - because he really, really hates it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 16 September, 2012, 07:09:10 PM
Aren't we veering into slightly spoiler-y territory here? Not trying to be all fascist spoiler-cop about it, but we do have a dedicated thread for discussion of the film for those who've seen it...

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 16 September, 2012, 09:16:40 PM
I quite like you being the spoiler-cop, Jim. I trod on a few toes shouting 'SPOILER!' before the movie release, much happier letting someone else do it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 17 September, 2012, 01:48:57 AM
The new Dredd rip-off ,sorry Robocop will shows the eyes http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2204280/Theres-lot-stuff-original-Remake-1987-Robocop-underway-Toronto.html

pussies
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 17 September, 2012, 09:11:24 AM
I had a thought early this morning...what if http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1727304/ ,only described as `Clan Techie`...turned out to be Chopper?......
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 17 September, 2012, 11:29:04 AM
Seen any good Dredd tweets?

Here's one I like:

QuoteJamie McKelvie ‏@McKelvie

Going to see Dredd tonight. Bit concerned about talk of comedy sidekick, but excited for rumoured Hammerstein appearance.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 17 September, 2012, 11:35:07 AM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 17 September, 2012, 09:11:24 AM
I had a thought early this morning...what if http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1727304/ ,only described as `Clan Techie`...turned out to be Chopper?......

Choppers got more balls than that guy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 17 September, 2012, 01:52:33 PM
Movie poll on Joblo

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/44456
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 17 September, 2012, 03:38:03 PM
Quote from: radiator on 17 September, 2012, 11:29:04 AM
Seen any good Dredd tweets?


Dakk @Dakk01

@Simbayo you don't find the Dredd helmets ridiculously small? I like the "district 13" look of the movie, but they are smalllll helmets.


..... laughing helplessly.

For the sake of my sanity, I think I'll step away from the net. Until Monday when, I assume, US box office numbers come in.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 17 September, 2012, 06:44:39 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 17 September, 2012, 11:35:07 AM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 17 September, 2012, 09:11:24 AM
I had a thought early this morning...what if http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1727304/ ,only described as `Clan Techie`...turned out to be Chopper?......

Choppers got more balls than that guy.

Yeah. Chopper would have found a way out and left his tag all over Mama's 'private suite' on the way.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 18 September, 2012, 06:45:22 PM
Probably posted elsewhere but there's a fantastic new featurette on Dredd's gear here: http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/dredd/trailers/dredd-featuertte-gear-30629421.html (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/dredd/trailers/dredd-featuertte-gear-30629421.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 18 September, 2012, 06:58:39 PM
Cool
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 18 September, 2012, 07:02:56 PM
Excellent little video!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 18 September, 2012, 08:26:49 PM
 Superb featurette, I hope there's something like this (only a lot longer) on the DVD/Blu-ray when it's released. Each time I see a little clip, I want to go and see the film again. :D
This weeks RadioTimes has a write-up about DREDD, thinly disguised as a piece on 1995's Judge Dredd. After a history lesson on the character and his creators including several mentions for 2000AD, Andrew Collins covers Stallone's "missed opportunity" before quoting Wagner describing DREDD as a "Proper-make" not a remake. Collins also calls DREDD a critical and commercial hit, stating that "Perhaps it will expunge any bad memories of the 95 movie and UK comics will finally have their own bankable franchise."
More great press, can't be a bad thing. :thumbsup:

Stew.       
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 18 September, 2012, 09:15:25 PM
Amazing movie on all levels. Really captures the brutality    of

mc 1.even my two chums were quite taken with the film. One wants to see it again as even with slo mo there was so much to see.Urban is Dredd to a quite astounding degree.thrilby and whoever played judge Lex were also awesome as was Ma ma.
Like wow baby cosmic. Cinema a third full or so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 September, 2012, 09:37:04 PM
Could that be soooo wrong?  :P :P

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/536261_10151235959530985_761507373_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 September, 2012, 12:55:26 AM
Does anyone remember that badass pic of dredd pointing that was on big stand things at SDCC?

Was just wondering if that ever got released in full quality?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 September, 2012, 01:16:05 AM
Those were the days ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 19 September, 2012, 02:37:19 AM
Yeah, good point. I'd completely forgotten about that. Information needs to be free, yo.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 19 September, 2012, 02:40:18 AM
If you mean the one on the video wall, it hasn't turned up anywhere else.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7583459960_a3fb0d1cd3.jpg) (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7583459960_1e06b3e453_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 19 September, 2012, 07:42:59 AM
Lex is played by Langley Kirkwood.. Which cannot possibly be his real name. He also played the main 'outcast' in Outcasts.. Which is why most of you've never heard of him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darren1973 on 19 September, 2012, 08:14:16 AM
Q&A with Karl Urban here - see which Dredd stories he quotes as iconic.


http://darrens-world-of-entertainment.blogspot.co.nz/2012/09/dredd-qa-with-karl-urban.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 September, 2012, 01:18:24 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 19 September, 2012, 02:40:18 AM
If you mean the one on the video wall, it hasn't turned up anywhere else.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7583459960_a3fb0d1cd3.jpg) (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7583459960_1e06b3e453_o.jpg)

Were those stills or motion posters?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 19 September, 2012, 01:53:10 PM
I'm guessing it's a still as I have someone else's photo of it that's exactly the same minus the live tweeting text.

This looks like a frame from the scene that was re-staged. [spoiler]The original Zwirner ending.[/spoiler]
http://baseblack.com/work/dredd-3d-judgement-is-coming/
(http://baseblack.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/dredd.0009.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 September, 2012, 03:28:16 PM
Cheers - I thought it might have been video since it was on screens, didn't realise there were live tweets.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 19 September, 2012, 07:26:01 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 19 September, 2012, 01:53:10 PM
I'm guessing it's a still as I have someone else's photo of it that's exactly the same minus the live tweeting text.

This looks like a frame from the scene that was re-staged. [spoiler]The original Zwirner ending.[/spoiler]
http://baseblack.com/work/dredd-3d-judgement-is-coming/
(http://baseblack.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/dredd.0009.jpg)


Wait, was that boob from the Slo Mo shot in the actual film? If it was then I feel quite proud that I don't seem to have homed in on it on any of my many watchings. I'm like a proper gentleman.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 19 September, 2012, 07:32:43 PM
Come to think of it, is the girl in the Slo Mo den not [spoiler]the same girl whose face is seen being sprayed with blood in Anderson's PSI interrogation? Always wondered where that shot came from, maybe an unused shot from the Slo Mo den shootout?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 19 September, 2012, 08:01:29 PM
[spoiler]Yes. Same woman, and the[/spoiler] boob [spoiler]shot is in the film.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 19 September, 2012, 08:29:16 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 19 September, 2012, 02:40:18 AM
If you mean the one on the video wall, it hasn't turned up anywhere else.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7583459960_a3fb0d1cd3.jpg

There must be someone from the production reading the aftershocks of this thread. Even a tea boy or something. Release the Dredd! >8O

Thanks for the highest res pic I've yet seen though.

I also wondered whether Michael's hands got camera time in the 'gear' featurette.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 19 September, 2012, 09:08:00 PM
Quote from: Stan on 19 September, 2012, 08:29:16 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 19 September, 2012, 02:40:18 AM
If you mean the one on the video wall, it hasn't turned up anywhere else.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7583459960_a3fb0d1cd3.jpg

There must be someone from the production reading the aftershocks of this thread. Even a tea boy or something. Release the Dredd! >8O

Thanks for the highest res pic I've yet seen though.

I also wondered whether Michael's hands got camera time in the 'gear' featurette.

Didn't recognize my hands anywhere.. I had an interview shot for the extras, but I've got a sneaking suspicion they reshot the interview with my head of department, Rob Carlisle, following the aftermath of you-know-what.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 September, 2012, 09:15:20 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 19 September, 2012, 02:40:18 AM
If you mean the one on the video wall, it hasn't turned up anywhere else.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7583459960_a3fb0d1cd3.jpg) (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7583459960_1e06b3e453_o.jpg)

Yeah that's the one! Damn that is awesome! Cheers CN. Why is that not out in a full pic yet?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 19 September, 2012, 10:13:40 PM
It was most likely taken by Joe Alblas (or less likely Ilze Kitshoff).
You could always ask Alblas about it.
http://www.joealblas.com/contact.html
or through facebook
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Joe-Alblas/108703635875611
Kitshoff is harder to pin down.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 September, 2012, 10:16:05 PM
Is it an actual photo though? It looks like a promo shot where the background has been put in after.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 19 September, 2012, 10:33:46 PM
Probably, but Albas did all the publicity shots too, except for the London reshoots.
It looks to me like it was taken in the same session as the rooftop poster & standing on flag.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 19 September, 2012, 10:34:28 PM
Albas=Alblas.

fucking no edit function.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 20 September, 2012, 02:37:54 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 19 September, 2012, 09:08:00 PM
Quote from: Stan on 19 September, 2012, 08:29:16 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 19 September, 2012, 02:40:18 AM
If you mean the one on the video wall, it hasn't turned up anywhere else.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7583459960_a3fb0d1cd3.jpg

There must be someone from the production reading the aftershocks of this thread. Even a tea boy or something. Release the Dredd! >8O

Thanks for the highest res pic I've yet seen though.

I also wondered whether Michael's hands got camera time in the 'gear' featurette.

Didn't recognize my hands anywhere.. I had an interview shot for the extras, but I've got a sneaking suspicion they reshot the interview with my head of department, Rob Carlisle, following the aftermath of you-know-what.

That would suck arse. I have the torches and pitchforks ready if they did.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 20 September, 2012, 03:30:14 AM
A Charles Bronson 'What if?'..

(http://www.dodaj.rs/f/3d/UD/2tuPoMY5/dredd-3d-6602.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 20 September, 2012, 03:49:21 AM
More like WTF  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 20 September, 2012, 07:30:04 AM
Meh..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 September, 2012, 09:09:06 AM
Er... he's dead?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 September, 2012, 11:27:44 AM
Looks more like Judge Lopez with that 'tache.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 September, 2012, 05:05:20 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 20 September, 2012, 09:09:06 AM
Er... he's dead?

That doesn't stop film makers and their magic skills, remember Gladiator and Oliver Reed!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 20 September, 2012, 05:30:40 PM
Ollie was only dead for some of the film... And they had to re-write it as it was supposed to be him burying the statues in the sand.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 20 September, 2012, 05:45:21 PM
I see dead people. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7aJkbu0Wi8)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 20 September, 2012, 06:13:18 PM
I sent Origins to a Serbian friend and that was his response. I'm not sure if it was a crit or he was just bored.

Brandon Lee is another actor who preceded the Oliver Reed problem. Though I'm not sure how much filming they had completed prior to his death.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 20 September, 2012, 06:40:15 PM
Quote from: Stan on 20 September, 2012, 06:13:18 PM
Brandon Lee is another actor who preceded the Oliver Reed problem. Though I'm not sure how much filming they had completed prior to his death.

Pretty sure The Crow was almost entirely done in editing rather than with digital jiggery pokery.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 20 September, 2012, 06:42:46 PM
IIRC some of the scenes in The Crow were filmed with a double and minimised the face shots.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 20 September, 2012, 07:11:34 PM
My memory is fuzzy but I thought there was a grave yard scene which had Oliver Reedesque jigger pokery. I'd have to check.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 20 September, 2012, 09:42:50 PM
A double was definitely used but there was also talk of digitalfiddlingaboutyness going on at the time, and I'm pretty sure I remember a scene where his face is reflected in a mirror that looks as if it's been added in digitally.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 21 September, 2012, 12:20:10 AM
Finally, tomorrow night I get to see this movie, oh yes I'm pumped.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Electromud on 21 September, 2012, 12:48:30 AM
Just a few short hours away....I'll be seeing it twice in 3D with a group of friends!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 21 September, 2012, 01:29:08 AM
Spread the Word Electro in the US we need all the help we can get.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Electromud on 21 September, 2012, 01:40:51 AM
Oh believe me, I have been. We gotta get that sequel!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 21 September, 2012, 01:59:52 AM
Ditto here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 21 September, 2012, 02:21:06 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 21 September, 2012, 01:29:08 AM
Spread the Word Electro in the US we need all the help we can get.

I kinda had a feeling you were a pseudo-Yank.

And have fun, Americans. You know what needs to be done. Do it..

Do it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 21 September, 2012, 02:25:34 AM
As an Irishman over here in Mega City Two, rest assured the word is being spread. Seeing it twice tomorrow both with various Family Guy/American Dad/Cleveland Show crewmembers. Lunchtime and after work. Fuck knows how I'm going to sleep tonight now knowing there's a midnight screening ten minutes from the house. And I've already seen it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 21 September, 2012, 11:31:14 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 21 September, 2012, 02:25:34 AM
As an Irishman over here in Mega City Two, rest assured the word is being spread. Seeing it twice tomorrow both with various Family Guy/American Dad/Cleveland Show crewmembers. Lunchtime and after work. Fuck knows how I'm going to sleep tonight now knowing there's a midnight screening ten minutes from the house. And I've already seen it!
And get some DREDD references thrown into Family Guy/American Dad/Cleveland Show to boot!  :cool:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 21 September, 2012, 02:06:48 PM
JoBlo are having an online chat/discussion on Sunday about Dredd. http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/the-joblo-sunday-night-movie-chat-dredd-3d
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 21 September, 2012, 07:54:20 PM
FINALLY.

Judge Dredd Leaked!
http://www.prisonplanet.com/judge-dredd-leaked.html

For anyone whose just woken up from a coma there's a spoiler at the 3 minute mark (when the report is basically done).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 September, 2012, 08:05:26 PM
Quote from: Stan on 21 September, 2012, 07:54:20 PM
FINALLY.

Judge Dredd Leaked!
http://www.prisonplanet.com/judge-dredd-leaked.html

For anyone whose just woken up from a coma there's a spoiler at the 3 minute mark (when the report is basically done).


Considering that same site was pushing Dredd as Illuminati propaganda (and Alan Moore as a Freeemason) this vid is almost rationl, though the parodic nature of it (unintended) is worthy of 2000AD.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 21 September, 2012, 08:10:08 PM
Posting that spoiler is downright weird though!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 21 September, 2012, 08:14:27 PM
I actually found it surprisingly kind myself. Probably because it wasn't Jones doing the report.

And yeah, that spoiler just seemed pointless in the extreme.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 21 September, 2012, 09:03:31 PM
Quote from: Stan on 21 September, 2012, 07:54:20 PM

Judge Dredd Leaked!
Quote
Red Beard says:
September 21, 2012 at 10:01 am
Sylvester Stallone was the ultimate Judge Dredd! That role was practically written for Stallone. Hollywood will have to put forth a mammoth effort to top Stallone's version. Most likely, this will be another lame remake.

Red Beard Reply:

September 21st, 2012 at 10:05 am

I am PROUD to have Stallone's version of Judge Dredd in my DVD collection! Furthermore, it's nobody's damned business what DVDs I choose to put in my collection!! Let the name-calling begin.

Trident Reply:

September 21st, 2012 at 10:12 am

You are correct..........

  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 21 September, 2012, 09:17:54 PM
Meh. The intrawebz gives a voice to every ignorant eejit on the planet, ignore it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 21 September, 2012, 09:21:08 PM
If Dredd bombs then Joe Public are complete morons (But we already know that).
At least we know that we now have a Dredd film to be proud of.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 21 September, 2012, 09:22:14 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 21 September, 2012, 09:21:08 PM
If Dredd bombs then Joe Public are complete morons (But we already know that).
At least we know that we now have a Dredd film to be proud of.




V

True enough. A sequel or two would be nice though...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 21 September, 2012, 09:32:40 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 21 September, 2012, 09:17:54 PM
Meh. The intrawebz gives a voice to every ignorant eejit on the planet, ignore it.

Aye - all true, you could so easily lose the will to live wading through all those tiresome comments and 'opinions'.
Numbskulls, the lot of 'em.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 September, 2012, 12:44:45 AM
New HQ image, see what on the wall next to the flag!  :lol:

(http://i.imgur.com/uMy8Q.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 22 September, 2012, 02:00:03 AM
now that dredd3d has opened in AMERICA pheww   its time to flood the cinemas in britain with the 2d version  then theyll get a flood of sales   
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 22 September, 2012, 05:52:32 AM
Just got back, loved it! Very hard boiled movie had a bit of an oldschool feel to it, also a bit of Carpenter maybe, just badass stuff. And of course, very true to the voice of Dredd in the book. Plus Anderson was done wonderfully. Nonscrot friends liked it too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 24 September, 2012, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: junox on 22 September, 2012, 02:00:03 AM
now that dredd3d has opened in AMERICA pheww   its time to flood the cinemas in britain with the 2d version  then theyll get a flood of sales   

Good idea!  One of my friends is desperate to see the film but as he has some problem with his eyes which means he can't see images in 3D, there's no point in him going.  Unless 2D starts getting shown he'll have to wait for the BluRay (which he hopes will be out in time for Xmas).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 24 September, 2012, 04:24:59 PM
From what I've heard, that's just doest look likely to happen. Odeon told me there are hardly any 2D prints, and they couldn't secure any, and Vue said it wasn't going to show the 2D release. I imagine once the 3D film's had its run, the usual thing will happen: it'll be dropped from smaller cinemas and shoved to one or two late(isn) showings per day in larger ones—assuming the screens aren't needed for something else.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 24 September, 2012, 04:27:40 PM
It's already moved to the small room at Odeon Cardiff..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 24 September, 2012, 04:45:18 PM
I got moved from the larget screen in Salisbury Odeon to the smallest within a week of release. But then Salisbury is always a quiet place for films, rarely see any screen over half full.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cookyman on 24 September, 2012, 05:30:31 PM
Another trailer for Dredd3d - not a good one either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFnCFqE9UZg&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFnCFqE9UZg&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 24 September, 2012, 05:33:35 PM
Quote from: Cookyman on 24 September, 2012, 05:30:31 PM
Another trailer for Dredd3d - not a good one either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFnCFqE9UZg&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFnCFqE9UZg&feature=youtu.be)

His name makes him sound more like a pornstar!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 25 September, 2012, 05:32:06 PM
Its an interesting fact that had Duncan Jones got to make his version of Dredd as a kind of Man Bites Dog set in Mega City 1, we might have ended up with a futuristic version of End Of Watch which also opened in the States on Friday.

Then everyone would have been saying they ripped that film off .
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 25 September, 2012, 05:47:18 PM
That sounds like it would have been really weird.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 26 September, 2012, 03:42:13 PM
Trivia...maybe...I just noticed the Hall of Justice as shown in the trailer for Dredd 3D is a near dead-ringer for the HOJ in prog #1054's 'FAST FOOD' as illustrated by Kevin Walker...Same angle, I really thought DNA'd gone their own way with the Hall of Justice design in the film, but the shot is just like the panel. Has anyone seen this?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 September, 2012, 03:58:21 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 25 September, 2012, 05:32:06 PM
Its an interesting fact that had Duncan Jones got to make his version of Dredd as a kind of Man Bites Dog set in Mega City 1, we might have ended up with a futuristic version of End Of Watch which also opened in the States on Friday.


It would've been like 'the Streets of Dan Francisco' with the League of Fatties & Judge Death. It's not an style/idea that would lead to sequels or a franchise. It's too gimmicky.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 26 September, 2012, 07:01:07 PM
Off topic a bit but I found this pic of a cool motorbike in sorta Lawmaster colours.

Scroll down,last pic.
http://gencept.com/visual-inspiration-day-4
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 26 September, 2012, 10:24:11 PM
Well, true to form,days after the Russian release, a cam of Dredd has appeared...and it's appalling.Anyway who watches any film likes this needs there head examined:

(http://lostpic.net/images/fcfcac3ef3bbad9d3a4d969f3a0c4244.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 26 September, 2012, 10:26:16 PM
Ha!No sooner had I posted that pic of the cam,than the website hosting it deleted it!Brilliant! :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 26 September, 2012, 11:19:32 PM
Dredd is bound to find its natural audience in the home market. When that happens I would love to a see an HBO style series featuring stories such as The Pit or Sin City or The Chief Judges Man turn up one day. At the very least DVD Releases a couple times a year.

They made the film for real fans, that means people with taste in my book, and I'd like to see more. If the average Mr Joe Y-Fronts on the street don't like it, then I say Fuck-em.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 27 September, 2012, 09:41:40 AM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 26 September, 2012, 11:19:32 PM
Dredd is bound to find its natural audience in the home market. When that happens I would love to a see an HBO style series featuring stories such as The Pit or Sin City or The Chief Judges Man turn up one day. At the very least DVD Releases a couple times a year.

Now that's a real lovely thought right there...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 27 September, 2012, 10:19:24 AM
Maybe in a miniseries style? I'd rather see a large budget 3-4 episode series than a mediocre budget 23 episode jobbie..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 27 September, 2012, 10:39:24 AM
I always find it slightly mad the extent of VFX shots in shows like these.

https://vimeo.com/19274597 (https://vimeo.com/19274597)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 28 September, 2012, 12:25:12 AM

Dredd vs. Trouble With The Curve - Movie Face-Off - Gravel-Voiced One-Liners

http://youtu.be/ZSaxnut1D8M (http://youtu.be/ZSaxnut1D8M)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HdE on 28 September, 2012, 01:49:57 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 27 September, 2012, 10:19:24 AM
Maybe in a miniseries style? I'd rather see a large budget 3-4 episode series than a mediocre budget 23 episode jobbie..

You mean, a bit like they did with the Dune TV mini-series?

I could go for that! And I can see they'd manage to pull off the feel of MC-1 more faithfully to the comics.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 28 September, 2012, 02:24:21 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 27 September, 2012, 10:19:24 AM
Maybe in a miniseries style? I'd rather see a large budget 3-4 episode series than a mediocre budget 23 episode jobbie..

If it was done on the likes of HBO, there'd only be ten to twelve episodes but with much higher production values and not having to restrict itself by gearing its content to advertisers whims. They've proved they can do fantasy with Game of Thrones so Dredd seems like a worthy fit if they ever think about doing something based in science fiction (which is really the only genre HBO has not attempted yet).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 September, 2012, 05:45:26 AM
I've never been as excited for TV adaptations as others fans, regardless of what's being adapted. It feels like a booby prize to me. Lower production values, usually fillered to hell, and more of a commitment than I'd like. If a Dredd series came out I'd watch it but I would be hyped about it. Especially since it'll probably get canned when you're just getting into it. At least when a film's done, it's done and you're not left hanging.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 28 September, 2012, 06:06:51 AM
Quote from: Stan on 28 September, 2012, 05:45:26 AM
I've never been as excited for TV adaptations as others fans, regardless of what's being adapted. It feels like a booby prize to me. Lower production values, usually fillered to hell, and more of a commitment than I'd like. If a Dredd series came out I'd watch it but I would be hyped about it. Especially since it'll probably get canned when you're just getting into it. At least when a film's done, it's done and you're not left hanging.

To be fair, there haven't been many films in the last decade that can compete with something like The Wire or Mad Men in terms of ambition and scope. There's no way you'd be able to make a Game of Thrones film with that amount of violence, swearing and sex and not have it watered down to a 12A. Ditto with the likes of Deadwood.

And again, cable television very rarely has filler episodes. Network tv produces over 20 episodes a year but cable has anywhere between six and twelve, traditionally. The higher budgeted stuff like Game of Thrones only gets ten episodes and looks as good as most movies. Take a look at Boardwalk Empire (Scorcese did the first episode) or Mad Men; I'd argue they look better than any films of their type that were released in the last few years. Cable television takes more chances creatively than films nowadays; there's a reason so many distinguished Hollywood actors, writers and directors are migrating there, particularly those who worked in 70s US cinema. Hollywood has all but gutted the US film industry of its creativity and risk-taking.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 01 October, 2012, 02:01:48 PM
Anyone find reactions from the production crew and studio in regards the box office numbers?
I'm sure everyone is gutted by the numbers and are keeping low key till the worldwide release is done.
Is Karl still on the promotion trail at the moment??
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 01 October, 2012, 02:12:07 PM
I've never really seen the potential for Dredd as a TV series, and personally I think there's very very little chance it would ever happen, and even less chance of it being good.

But if HBO decided to make one for whatever reason, I'd be very intrigued - they seem to like to tackle one genre at a time and have done crime drama, gangsters, westerns, war serials and most recently fantasy with Game of Thrones - surely sci fi is next on their list? Dredd would seem like a good candidate - especially if it was based on The Pit with an ensemble cast, though it'd be difficult to get the required HBO quota of nudity with a cast of repressed, celibate characters.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 01 October, 2012, 02:18:10 PM
How about a series of TV four part movies. Like they did with Farscape The Peacekeeper Wars.
These could cover Block mania, Apoc War and other major events in the Dredd world.





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 October, 2012, 02:19:14 PM
Quote from: radiator on 01 October, 2012, 02:12:07 PM
I've never really seen the potential for Dredd as a TV series, and personally I think there's very very little chance it would ever happen, and even less chance of it being good.

But if HBO decided to make one for whatever reason, I'd be very intrigued - they seem to like to tackle one genre at a time and have done crime drama, gangsters, westerns, war serials and most recently fantasy with Game of Thrones - surely sci fi is next on their list? Dredd would seem like a good candidate - especially if it was based on The Pit with an ensemble cast, though it'd be difficult to get the required HBO quota of nudity with a cast of repressed, celibate characters.

Wally Squad. Sadly it would mostly be Dirty Frank.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 01 October, 2012, 04:11:17 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 01 October, 2012, 02:18:10 PM
How about a series of TV four part movies. Like they did with Farscape The Peacekeeper Wars.
These could cover Block mania, Apoc War and other major events in the Dredd world.





V
Yup,thought of this myself,it's doable.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 01 October, 2012, 04:38:52 PM
Let's not be too quick to accept second best though. There's a problem with potential Dredd viewers, not the product itself (as the critical response from those who have actually seen it suggests). Once it comes out on DVD the general trollulace will likely realise the error of their ways and anything can happen from there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: orinAGN on 01 October, 2012, 04:40:38 PM
On the topic of a Dredd TV Series.

What I think would work best...
Is to just call it something like 2000 AD, or something 2000 AD related.  And have the show run as an anthology series, much like "Tales from the Crypt" or "Twilight Zone".  With a large focus on Dredd.  But make the show about EVERYTHING in this comic universe. Do stuff with ABC Warriors, focus on the Psi-Division, stuff like that.  Don't just center on Dredd. 

I think something like that would work really well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 01 October, 2012, 04:47:47 PM
A show called 'Sector 13' could work- featuring the bendy women of the justice department, with dredd as one of their number- along with anderson and the start of psi division. Sort of law and order/ csi mega city one, crossed with the xfiles, etc.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 01 October, 2012, 04:48:54 PM
Men and women, not "bendy women". Argh! Phone!

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 01 October, 2012, 04:51:35 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 01 October, 2012, 02:18:10 PM
How about a series of TV four part movies. Like they did with Farscape The Peacekeeper Wars.
These could cover Block mania, Apoc War and other major events in the Dredd world.





V

Fink and Ratty as muppets would be arsom
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: orinAGN on 01 October, 2012, 05:12:16 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 01 October, 2012, 04:47:47 PM
A show called 'Sector 13' could work- featuring the bendy women of the justice department, with dredd as one of their number- along with anderson and the start of psi division. Sort of law and order/ csi mega city one, crossed with the xfiles, etc.

SBT

Sector 13... Isn't that "The Pit"?
That would make for a great story to see done as an adaptation.  Either in a later film or a TV production.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 01 October, 2012, 05:28:38 PM
Now I can't stop thinking about leather-clad bendy women judges.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 01 October, 2012, 07:09:06 PM
Demarco...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richard on 01 October, 2012, 08:55:11 PM
Sector 301 was The Pit. Sector 13 is Angeltown.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 01 October, 2012, 09:42:57 PM
Sector 13 is where Dredd is based out of in the movie. I assume it's a token nod towards precinct 13, where there may have been a n assault at one time or another.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CraveNoir on 02 October, 2012, 12:44:33 PM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 01 October, 2012, 02:01:48 PM
Anyone find reactions from the production crew and studio in regards the box office numbers?
I'm sure everyone is gutted by the numbers and are keeping low key till the worldwide release is done.
Is Karl still on the promotion trail at the moment??

You don't really get reactions, and I'm sure no-one's saying anything until it's opened in all territories.
Urban is currently promoting the film in Australasia, then on to Japan. He is supposed to be publicising in Europe after that.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: orinAGN on 02 October, 2012, 04:59:39 PM
Quote from: Richard on 01 October, 2012, 08:55:11 PM
Sector 301 was The Pit. Sector 13 is Angeltown.

Yeah.  I realized that a bit later.
I spent the last hour trying to find this post and reply, acknowledging my goof.  But I forgot where I made the comment.

Is there a way to edit your posts, once you make them?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 October, 2012, 03:28:56 PM
With my logo on the front page!

http://whatculture.com/film/5-reasons-dredd-3d-is-the-best-comic-book- movie-of-2012.php  (http://whatculture.com/film/5-reasons-dredd-3d-is-the-best-comic-book-%20movie-of-2012.php)

Agree with this;

It's safe to say that all the promise this year's string of summer blockbusters had, most failed to live up to expectations and collapsed under a pile of hyper-boil. The Dark Knight Rises, Prometheus and Total Recall among others, all failed to deliver for various reasons ranging from poor script writing to overly pompous plots.

It seemed like 2012 would go down as a year of major disappointments but as the summer drew to an end, there was one more film still left to go, a low budget comic book adaptation that was hoping to resonate with a new audience and reboot a franchise. There was hardly any promotion, no fast food tie-ins or TV specials. Like a plank of wood in a sea of rubbish, it offered a lifeline that you don't have to drown in mediocre film making and that going to the cinema can be exciting again, it was bold, fresh and violent. It didn't try to pander to the teenage audience and it didn't alienate its core fan base and that film was Pete Travis's Dredd.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 October, 2012, 03:33:37 PM
Sorry, but I stopped reading at 'Hyper-boil'.

Learn how to write.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 03 October, 2012, 03:52:08 PM
Maybe it was a play on words, hyperbole crossed with a boil. Kind'a works...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 03 October, 2012, 04:23:38 PM
Don't agree on the TDKR I must admit. Maybe I'm wrong but I really liked it and would say I personally enjoyed it more than Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 03 October, 2012, 04:25:48 PM
Not saying Dredd wasn't great BTW but that was comparing two great films for me and calling one of them a failure and naming it alongside a film that really was (Total Recall).  Can't agree.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 03 October, 2012, 04:27:19 PM
Horses for courses, I guess. I thought TDKR was boring and far too long. It needed at least an hour off of the run-time, which, frankly, would have been pretty easy to do without really losing anything. Mrs G summed it up by saying it wanted to be epic but wasn't actually epic. The telegraphed coda was also irksome in pretty much every way to me, along with, in one case (the [spoiler]café[/spoiler]) being entirely illogical.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 03 October, 2012, 04:29:41 PM
yeah fair enough.

interesting really.  One tried to have too much story and be more than it needed, the other had a paper thin story you could throw in a short but both were good to me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 October, 2012, 04:43:13 PM
Overall I enjoyed TDKR but agree that it was massively overlong and had too many superfluous plot elements and characters.

I also found it way too convoluted and it stretched suspension of disbelief* beyond breaking point a few too many times.

A few more drafts of the script could have easily have whipped it into shape and would have greatly improved on what was for me a three star film.

*before anyone says it - just because a film has a man dressed as a bat doesn't mean you can completely throw plausibility and logic out the window.

Dredd on the other hand was lean, concise, and focused - and all the more refreshing for it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 03 October, 2012, 05:15:51 PM
Robin and the Batman gives up cop out ruined it.The first half was really good though with Catwoman.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 04 October, 2012, 12:43:38 AM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 03 October, 2012, 04:23:38 PM
I personally enjoyed it more than Dredd.

Creep.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 04 October, 2012, 11:02:49 AM
I'm just saying as a movie. Not as a comic.

It was still great mind but I kind of knew that opinion wouldn't go down a storm  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 04 October, 2012, 11:11:50 AM
Dark Knight Rises was one of the sloppiest movies I've ever watched. It can't even keep track of its core themes or character arcs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 04 October, 2012, 11:20:40 AM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 04 October, 2012, 11:11:50 AM
Dark Knight Rises was one of the sloppiest movies I've ever watched. It can't even keep track of its core themes or character arcs.

Completely agree.

It was like a 2h 45m exercise in exposition.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 04 October, 2012, 11:30:16 AM
Having said all that, I will probably end up buying it on Blu Ray and watching it again. It did have some great stuff in it, mainly Tom Hardy's performance as Bane.

It just about managed to stay coherent and was nowhere near as much of a mess as Prometheus.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 04 October, 2012, 11:33:26 AM
Ahem. Saw Dredd 3D again last night. Kicked some arse.

OH LOOK, GUYS --> http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,32725.0.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 04 October, 2012, 02:55:56 PM
Quote from: radiator on 04 October, 2012, 11:30:16 AMHaving said all that, I will probably end up buying it on Blu Ray and watching it again. It did have some great stuff in it, mainly Tom Hardy's performance as Bane.
We have the first two on DVD. We've watched the first a few times, but the second was a gift and remains shrink-wrapped. I think the third would be lucky to get on to the shelves. I'll strongly consider buying Dredd, though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cookyman on 06 October, 2012, 07:16:27 PM
Brilliant !  :o

Dredd Painting - Fan Art Timelapse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVSiO7gyGlk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVSiO7gyGlk)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 06 October, 2012, 11:32:55 PM
I pre-apologise for the second spam post in a row but..Judge Death...in Serbian.

Sudija Dred
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFVfpN6146A
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 08 October, 2012, 09:11:44 PM
Did the reviewer get her wires crossed on this?
Was there a proposed Dredd and Anderson Kiss in a one version of the script?
:-*
Original Dredd creator John Wagner was on hand as consultant throughout filming for writer and producer by Alex Garland, and nixed a scene where Anderson and Dredd kiss - Judge Dredd doesn't do romance, and neither does Anderson.
http://www.comicbookgrrrl.com/2012/10/03/dredd-a-brilliant-portrayal-of-women-in-comics/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2012, 09:16:42 PM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 08 October, 2012, 09:11:44 PM
Did the reviewer get her wires crossed on this?
Was there a proposed Dredd and Anderson Kiss in a one version of the script?


I repsonded in the comments section: You must take the context of the 'kiss' into account. It wasn't a romantic kiss, even in the original script, it was the kiss-of-life. In one of the last scenes Anderson was unconscious so there was still no romatic connotation to the act, it was purely functional.
It was still cleverly written and a play on the platonic relationship between the two characters but the wound dressing in the lift worked better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 09 October, 2012, 11:57:38 PM
Why 'Dredd' Is Really A Superheroine Movie
http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/10/09/981151/why-dredd-is-really-a-superheroine-movie/?mobile=nc
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 10 October, 2012, 12:33:05 AM
Has DREDD 3D struck a cord with the feminists?
Quote from: Stan on 09 October, 2012, 11:57:38 PM
Why 'Dredd' Is Really A Superheroine Movie
http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/10/09/981151/why-dredd-is-really-a-superheroine-movie/?mobile=nc
There was a few more articles that remarked on the same theme.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 10 October, 2012, 12:39:58 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 10 October, 2012, 12:33:05 AM
Has DREDD 3D struck a cord with the feminists?
Quote from: Stan on 09 October, 2012, 11:57:38 PM
Why 'Dredd' Is Really A Superheroine Movie
http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/10/09/981151/why-dredd-is-really-a-superheroine-movie/?mobile=nc
There was a few more articles that remarked on the same theme.

It's a well made argument. Dredd is the faceless unchanging judge, his character development is virtually zero for the protagonist of a movie (in 35 years of te comic we have seen a definite progression in character, but at a glacial pace). Anderson is clearly the heart of the movie, with Ma Ma as her twisted counterpart.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2012, 12:47:42 AM

He does give her the pass whereas he wouldn't have done it for anyone with Anderson's level of skill beforehand, that's a change in character, however slight.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 10 October, 2012, 01:02:05 AM
And there's another: [spoiler]You don't look ready > You look ready[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 10 October, 2012, 01:16:41 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2012, 12:47:42 AM

He does give her the pass whereas he wouldn't have done it for anyone with Anderson's level of skill beforehand, that's a change in character, however slight.

Quote from: IndigoPrime on 10 October, 2012, 01:02:05 AM
And there's another: [spoiler]You don't look ready > You look ready[/spoiler]

Agreed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 10 October, 2012, 10:25:10 AM
That's not a change in character, it's a change of opinion about Anderson based on an increased knowledge. It wasn't the events of the film that changed him on an emotional level, just a better grasp on what Anderson could achieve. It was just a 'drug bust' to Dredd. It hardly registered on him at all as indicated at the end of the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 10 October, 2012, 12:02:41 PM
i'd argue [spoiler]it's a shift from Dredd having made an opinion and being stoic to being able to be surprised by someone[/spoiler]. This is very similar to how he acted in the comics, although that kind of change often took a much larger amount of time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 October, 2012, 12:03:44 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 10 October, 2012, 10:25:10 AM
That's not a change in character, it's a change of opinion about Anderson based on an increased knowledge.


which is more or less what any character arc is meant to achieve.

He's considering what the job could possibly achieve in a non-violent way, I'd say that's a big change for Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 October, 2012, 04:51:23 PM
It was never up to Dredd to inform her if she passed, that would have come from higher up!

I can only think of one course that I knew at the time I had passed in the military and that was the CDO course. So long as you finished the 30 miler, you are awarded the green beret on the spot. Every other course I was informed at a later date. That could be the end of the day, via letter or marching into an office to be told yes or no!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 10 October, 2012, 05:42:21 PM
All my military reports past and present were never revealed to me until after the course had finished.
I may have known I'd passed but the details would take up to a week to be revealed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 October, 2012, 03:51:49 PM
Some new photos (sorry if it been posted before...)

(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/DNA_015.jpg)
(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/DNA_016.jpg)
(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/DNA_018.jpg)
(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/DNA_013.jpg)
(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/DNA_012.jpg)
(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/DNA_011.jpg)
(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/DNA_005.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 October, 2012, 03:54:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/6dNvQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cpXtr.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7t9O3.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 11 October, 2012, 04:00:00 PM
Nice one Goaty, particularly like the last photo of Dredd in the first batch (with that wall scrawl).

Is there any way to turn one of these into a wallpaper background -would love it for my laptop?I also remember you did a brilliant poster comprising lots of photos together -tha would make an excellent wallpaper too.(No clue about computers so apologies if this is a silly question)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2012, 04:05:28 PM
Of course thanks due to Mr Alblas:

http://www.joealblas.com/work/dredd.html

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 October, 2012, 04:24:55 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2012, 04:05:28 PM
Of course thanks due to Mr Alblas:

http://www.joealblas.com/work/dredd.html

Nerd!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 11 October, 2012, 04:58:26 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2012, 04:05:28 PM
Of course thanks due to Mr Alblas:

http://www.joealblas.com/work/dredd.html

Bloody Brilliant!Thanks Joe and Goaty!I've figured it out and now have these as wallpaper, excellent.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 October, 2012, 05:27:39 PM
There's loads more photographs but you'll have to buy the screenplay (Kindle)  to see them:



(http://2000ad.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/dredd-screenplay-alex-garland.jpg)



http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dredd-ebook/dp/B0096A1RL6/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1349972703&sr=1-1

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 11 October, 2012, 08:05:50 PM
Talking to a customer about films today and asked him if he had seen Dredd "don't like watching remakes" so I talked him into going to see it. He contradicted himself as he said he loved the recent batman movies.






V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 11 October, 2012, 10:05:46 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 11 October, 2012, 08:05:50 PM..so I talked him into going to see it.

Did it involve tying him to a chair and beating him with a length of rubber hose until he accepted it wasn't a remake?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 13 October, 2012, 04:47:25 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 October, 2012, 03:54:00 PM
http://i.imgur.com/6dNvQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cpXtr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7t9O3.jpg

Nice. It's a shame that second one isn't bigger but by sheer coincidence it's my least fave.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 13 October, 2012, 09:31:14 AM
Saw it last night with 7 friends. 3 of us loved it to bits, 3 said it was good and last one thought it was just blood haha.

Loved the fact that one friend who loved it usualy hates details about violence and stuff, but he really loved DREDD since it was such bad ass movie with so much stuff going on without showing to much of it.
He likened it with watching Lost in translation, a movie who some think is about nothing but those who "get it" by seeing the small details will want to sing about how they love it.

And 'yeah', I also loved it. Will watch it again tomorrow Sunday, and propably Monday too!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 13 October, 2012, 09:35:19 AM
And yes. I'd really love to thank those who made it happend and made it work.

I'll try to make as many as possible watching it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 October, 2012, 09:30:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/8RT9Y.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/f4wIb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/j8RLu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Axr9X.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/GPLac.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/LCfLC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/PBBRA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/w8srv.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 14 October, 2012, 09:43:32 PM
I assume that shot of Mama with a weapon in the background was from before the reshoots were done?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 14 October, 2012, 10:28:22 PM
Is it the explosion which knocks him off his feet here? At first I thought he got shot, and then wondered if rubble hit him. Something appeared to come through the wall at the time he went over anyway.

(http://i.imgur.com/LCfLC.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 14 October, 2012, 10:33:15 PM
And there's something very Ezguerra about pics 2 and 3.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 14 October, 2012, 10:48:25 PM
Look what else ''robo'' is ripping off.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/10/14/check-out-the-new-robocops-futuristic-motorbike/

What's worse is this movie will very likely make more then DREDD. :crazy:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 15 October, 2012, 07:27:30 AM
It's just a black sports bike, you see a dozen of them on the road to work every day. Boring.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 15 October, 2012, 07:36:09 AM
Aren't Robocop's feet quite simillar to those in Judge Demolition man?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itmNiTwHOsM

Only thing missing is the disco details in gold. But that couldl probably be added through some cgi-magic no?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 October, 2012, 09:43:13 AM
Hot Shot
(http://i.imgur.com/YIVWj.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 15 October, 2012, 09:47:33 AM
I don't know about Dredd—Robocop's starting to remind me of Street Hawk.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 October, 2012, 12:43:32 PM
I recall enjoying Streethawk.. I was 6 at the time, mind..

I back in the day I was quite happy with shows like Streethawk, Knight rider and Airwolf.. But at a certain point, what the hell happens if you're separated from your only strong point vehicle in a logical sort of way, like on a boat or up in the top of a skyscraper? So long as crime happens as far away as the pavement you should be fine, I suppose.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 October, 2012, 12:47:58 PM
QuoteI back in the day I was quite happy with shows like Streethawk, Knight rider and Airwolf.. But at a certain point, what the hell happens if you're separated from your only strong point vehicle in a logical sort of way, like on a boat or up in the top of a skyscraper? So long as crime happens as far away as the pavement you should be fine, I suppose.

Announcer: We now return to "Knightboat: the Crime-Solving Boat".
   Michael: Faster, Knightboat!  We gotta catch those starfish poachers.
Knightboat: You don't have to yell, Michael, I'm all around you.
   Michael: Oh, no!  They're headed for land.
   Michael: We'll never catch them now.
Knightboat: Incorrect: look!  A canal.
     Homer: Go, Knightboat, go!
      Bart: Oh, every week there's a canal.
      Lisa: Or an inlet.
      Bart: Or a fjord.
     Homer: Quiet!  I will not hear another word against the boat.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 15 October, 2012, 05:24:54 PM

He should get a dog like Lassie. That's a hound who can multi task: swimming, running
and climbing.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 15 October, 2012, 05:34:17 PM
When i was little, a Lassie film made me cry,   :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 October, 2012, 06:11:40 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 15 October, 2012, 09:47:33 AM
I don't know about Dredd—Robocop's starting to remind me of Street Hawk.

Aaaaargh, THAT'S IT!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 October, 2012, 06:57:05 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ojn95.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/gzyYo.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/0HCtd.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/kIE4h.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/hYEdZ.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/X4YV4.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/4AKbg.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/iKmyF.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/4cuq6.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/9P2Tj.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/BoNJg.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/1Uhdh.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 15 October, 2012, 07:19:07 PM
wow!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 15 October, 2012, 07:32:01 PM
Wow, and then saved.
Cheers, Mr Goaty.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 15 October, 2012, 09:20:52 PM
How was Dredd's helmet secured to Mr. Urbans head?
I'm curious after seeing all the intense action scenes, did the helmet go flying off at any stage ?
Did any actor walk into a wall due to the restricted vision with the nose piece ala the famous Star Wars Storm Trooper scene?
Or was it so well designed and heavy that it stayed in place by itself without any chin strap or aid?
Anyone have insight into this?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 October, 2012, 09:25:34 PM

Ear-straps.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 October, 2012, 09:26:17 PM
He headbutt with his helmet! is that enough?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 October, 2012, 09:26:51 PM
Glue and a nail through the top!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 16 October, 2012, 01:13:03 AM
i thought it was a  "SCREW ON " helmet
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 October, 2012, 01:25:33 AM
So if distribution rights are sold to Lionsgate for $7 million, I'm assuming the production companies themselves still get a cut of the box office? Considering the cinemas themselves get roughly half(ish), it must be a small cut of the overall pie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 October, 2012, 02:03:15 AM
They should do a Kickstarter for Dredd 2 if doesn't make enough. Just saw that miniatures thing got $100,000! Absolutely amazing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 16 October, 2012, 10:01:02 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 October, 2012, 02:03:15 AM
They should do a Kickstarter for Dredd 2 if doesn't make enough. Just saw that miniatures thing got $100,000! Absolutely amazing.

They won't though. It's a hard truth that most people here seem to be unwilling to take on board. It was a business venture. It failed. Like it or not, and I loved the movie, there will not be another one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 16 October, 2012, 10:32:13 AM
Quote from: Stan on 16 October, 2012, 01:25:33 AM
So if distribution rights are sold to Lionsgate for $7 million, I'm assuming the production companies themselves still get a cut of the box office? Considering the cinemas themselves get roughly half(ish), it must be a small cut of the overall pie.

That $7 million is what the film's UK distributor is supposed to have paid. (And have hence taken a fairly hefty loss so far on their investment.) Lionsgate was the film's US distributor, and would presumably have paid a lot more.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 16 October, 2012, 11:49:32 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 16 October, 2012, 10:01:02 AM
Like it or not, and I loved the movie, there will not be another one.

Yep. Sorry, but Dredd's failed not once, but twice. The first time, it was a big star vehicle that sacrificed fidelity to the source material in favour of blockbuster tropes, and it failed. The second time, it was diametrically opposite and it still failed, even in the face of fantastic word of mouth and great reviews.

What this tells any potential investor is that Dredd, as a brand, has no breakout potential in the mass market. Depressing, but true.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 16 October, 2012, 12:34:39 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 16 October, 2012, 11:49:32 AM
What this tells any potential investor is that Dredd, as a brand, has no breakout potential in the mass market. Depressing, but true.

S'right.  Dredd3D gave us a recognisable Dredd that accurately translated a sizeable portion of the strip's appeal to the screen, and had no little charm of its own as a production.  The message is that outside of a small-ish group, no-one cares. 

On the positive side, the more I read on the web, the more sure I am that the effect on the comics side of the Dredd operation will be a good one: within the audience that did see it, Dredd's credibility has never been higher, and this is unlikely to fall-off any time soon.  Maybe in 20 years' time Justin Bieber's DreddSmellovision will take 'em by storm.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 16 October, 2012, 01:12:33 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 16 October, 2012, 12:34:39 PM
On the positive side, the more I read on the web, the more sure I am that the effect on the comics side of the Dredd operation will be a good one: within the audience that did see it, Dredd's credibility has never been higher, and this is unlikely to fall-off any time soon.

Even though the frequency of the Megazine - the comic that actually bears Dredd's name - has just been downsized from 13 to 12 issues a year?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 16 October, 2012, 01:13:56 PM
Quote from: GordonR on 16 October, 2012, 01:12:33 PM
Even though the frequency of the Megazine - the comic that actually bears Dredd's name - has just been downsized from 13 to 12 issues a year?

That's a distribution issue, rather than anything to do with the health of the Meg.

It's also worth noting that in the past two months we've had to hurriedly reprint seven major GNs, all of them Dredd, due to selling out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 16 October, 2012, 01:19:30 PM
I've said it before, but Dredd (the movie) hasn't reached a massive audience yet, but I think it's going to find it's real audience on home formats - and though that admittedly (probably) isn't enough to get a sequel made, what it will do I suspect is continue to attract people to the comics and trade paperbacks for many years to come.

It really is a great advert for the comics.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 16 October, 2012, 01:25:21 PM
Quote from: radiator on 16 October, 2012, 01:19:30 PM
It really is a great advert for the comics.

That's a much better way of putting it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 October, 2012, 01:29:44 PM
THIS what Master TordelBack says!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 16 October, 2012, 01:30:55 PM
On on more cheerier note he is a real  picture which may have influenced tuhe look of the big Meg  in our beloved movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jock on 16 October, 2012, 02:02:14 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 16 October, 2012, 01:30:55 PM
On on more cheerier note he is a real  picture which may have influenced tuhe look of the big Meg  in our beloved movie.
i used some similar shots as the basis for a view of the Meg, funnily enough. it was deemed too 'fantasy' for production, but i had a soft spot for the look --

http://www.4twenty.co.uk/movies/judge-dredd-movie/mega-city-1-from-above/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 October, 2012, 02:21:04 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 16 October, 2012, 10:01:02 AM
They won't though. It's a hard truth that most people here seem to be unwilling to take on board. It was a business venture. It failed. Like it or not, and I loved the movie, there will not be another one.

I'm fairly happy living in denial  :D. Surely that's what everyone thought after Judge Dredd, but then along came Dredd which kicked ass. I'm a young guy, I can wait 17 years for another one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 16 October, 2012, 02:24:32 PM
Curse you and the youth on your side
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 October, 2012, 02:42:06 PM
Or a new Dredd video game would be pretty swell.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 October, 2012, 02:45:18 PM
Wow...
you are the master, Jock!

(http://i.imgur.com/2Ddvq.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 16 October, 2012, 03:22:59 PM
Thanks for those insights Jock your concept work on the movie has been outstanding  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 October, 2012, 03:30:47 PM
A pity there's no way of getting more of this out there, in print. The 1995 film got that art of Dredd book; this time, a few bits and bobs online. Such a pity we couldn't magic a Meg floppy full of concept art.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 October, 2012, 03:32:56 PM
Quote from: GordonR on 16 October, 2012, 10:32:13 AM
Quote from: Stan on 16 October, 2012, 01:25:33 AM
So if distribution rights are sold to Lionsgate for $7 million, I'm assuming the production companies themselves still get a cut of the box office? Considering the cinemas themselves get roughly half(ish), it must be a small cut of the overall pie.

That $7 million is what the film's UK distributor is supposed to have paid. (And have hence taken a fairly hefty loss so far on their investment.) Lionsgate was the film's US distributor, and would presumably have paid a lot more.

Whoops. Clearly I misremembered the Wiki page I was reading about three seconds prior.

Though that kinda bolsters the point I was making elsewhere (which lead me to the Wiki in the first place). The actual production companies don't need to recoup a massive loss. It's distributors who need to be convinced that a sequel is worthwhile. I'm hoping that in the delusional la la land me and Chuck Sixpackman live in a great performance on DVD, in which people suddenly realise they missed out on something really really cool looking, will convince a couple of big boys that Dredd has a second wind.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 October, 2012, 03:33:39 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 16 October, 2012, 03:30:47 PM
A pity there's no way of getting more of this out there, in print. The 1995 film got that art of Dredd book; this time, a few bits and bobs online. Such a pity we couldn't magic a Meg floppy full of concept art.

And we get featured in the film! How amazed was that?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Gonk on 16 October, 2012, 03:49:36 PM

What do you plan to do between Dredd no.1 and Dredd no.2? That's a few years to play around in. I have heard that "War and Peace" is a good read.

I might get hold of some slo-mo and try to read it, by the time I've finished it, I'll be ready for the next Dredd film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 16 October, 2012, 04:14:04 PM
Youll be ready, but the film wont,  :(

No, stop it - positive thoughts only.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 16 October, 2012, 04:25:55 PM
When I win the Euromillions I'm going to bankroll the sequel myself!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 October, 2012, 04:30:40 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 16 October, 2012, 04:25:55 PM
When I win the Euromillions I'm going to bankroll the sequel myself!  ;)

ditto!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 16 October, 2012, 04:35:43 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 16 October, 2012, 04:30:40 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 16 October, 2012, 04:25:55 PM
When I win the Euromillions I'm going to bankroll the sequel myself!  ;)

ditto!

That will be some epic Goaty, with both our winnings combined!   :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 October, 2012, 07:04:03 PM
Will be interesting to see if that Goon movie kickstarter works. Could be a game changer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 16 October, 2012, 07:57:09 PM
FINALLY saw Dredd! 12 Oct premiere over here (Sweden).

I saw Dredd last friday and again today, and it's a winner. I hugely underestimated what they could pull off. I'm especially impressed by the three lead actors. The satire is there, the black humor, the brutality. The economy of it all and the simplicity of the story only plays to its strengths. The final slo-mo scene is sublime, almost surreal and a beautiful ending to the film. And the score, just amazing. You immediately forget about expensive CGI since they nail the essence and atmosphere of Dredd and MC-1 so well. In my book, it's an 8.5-9 / 10.

And this is what makes the likely lack of sequels so damn painful. Adding insult to injury, RE:Retribution is doing better at the box-office...  >:(  :(  :'(

Life isn't fair.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 October, 2012, 08:17:31 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 October, 2012, 07:04:03 PM
Will be interesting to see if that Goon movie kickstarter works. Could be a game changer.

Bear in mind that kickstarter is to make a reel/animatic as a first stage.

Still, it will be interesting to see how they do with it - but it's an untested IP, whereas Dredd has had 2 cracks at the film market and not widely succeeded in either incarnation.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 16 October, 2012, 08:36:52 PM
The circle is complete

(http://api.ning.com/files/W1d5k81TL1XSFoa9qjN4RUPUS3Cfdc0rg2mGrP6aVdlGx4zk8eaCSOhNdIkEeI8QXXFY*6zqXXkZRGr36azzaQ__/RobocopBikeImage3.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 October, 2012, 08:43:44 PM
Speaking of which, Street Hawk Robocop just got pushed back to February 2014.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 October, 2012, 11:21:48 PM
Nothing is sacred..

PS: Don't blame me for that one.

(http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1d/cy/39QcI6mr/stansimprooowaadggrhcove.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 17 October, 2012, 11:39:00 PM
Haha, what the...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 17 October, 2012, 11:41:02 PM
Is that one of the Bee Gee's?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 18 October, 2012, 02:12:20 AM
Raising Arizona Vs Ma-Ma. I have my money on Cage.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 18 October, 2012, 06:50:07 AM
One week to go until it starts in Australia and yet there is no advertsing for it at all. No trailers on telivison.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 18 October, 2012, 07:02:57 AM
Maybe they've decided they'd save more money by not advertising than they'd make in film tickets from advertising? Don't know how it works.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 October, 2012, 12:41:50 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/m5kIR.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 19 October, 2012, 12:52:55 PM
Any close up pictures of the Judges with the coats.
Is there standard leather gear under the get up?
What is the difference between these Judges and the Street Judges like Dredd?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 October, 2012, 04:11:35 PM
Not seen any so far.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 October, 2012, 06:16:24 PM
Wow, promo of Dredd with his Lawmaster! Anyone got full picture of that?

(http://i.imgur.com/JnrhK.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 October, 2012, 06:31:26 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 19 October, 2012, 07:05:15 PM
Is that Chinese?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 October, 2012, 08:12:08 PM
Has poor old Ezquerra block taken even more of a kicking?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 October, 2012, 08:18:30 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 19 October, 2012, 08:12:08 PM
Has poor old Ezquerra block taken even more of a kicking?

Or he could be proud? But don't think his wife would like it, (as she don't like Dredd's violence as I was sit next to her at the screening!)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 19 October, 2012, 08:26:01 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 19 October, 2012, 08:18:30 PM
Or he could be proud? But don't think his wife would like it, (as she don't like Dredd's violence as I was sit next to her at the screening!)

What was that nosie?  Did somebody just drop something?   ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 October, 2012, 08:29:45 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 19 October, 2012, 08:26:01 PM
What was that nosie?  Did somebody just drop something?   ;)

Sorry, don't get it...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 19 October, 2012, 08:30:51 PM
Quote from: Stan on 19 October, 2012, 07:05:15 PM
Is that Chinese?

The film just opened in Hong Kong, which I suppose would make it Cantonese.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 October, 2012, 09:07:42 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 19 October, 2012, 08:29:45 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 19 October, 2012, 08:26:01 PM
What was that nosie?  Did somebody just drop something?   ;)

Sorry, don't get it...?

Name dropping.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 October, 2012, 09:20:43 PM
Do not believe the Goat Monster. Here is photographic evidence that Carlos and his good lady did not sit next to him and the camera never lies :lol:

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/014.jpg)

Are you in this picture forum fans, or are you a figment of Goaty's imagination too ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 October, 2012, 09:25:46 PM
Oh my gosh, it was all my imagination!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge macbrayne on 19 October, 2012, 09:35:50 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 October, 2012, 09:20:43 PM
Do not believe the Goat Monster. Here is photographic evidence that Carlos and his good lady did not sit next to him and the camera never lies :lol:

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/014.jpg)

Are you in this picture forum fans, or are you a figment of Goaty's imagination too ;)
Kin see yir baw heed ah mile away c f :D :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 October, 2012, 09:38:36 PM
But you can't see Carlos, or his wife, can you?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge macbrayne on 19 October, 2012, 09:42:45 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 October, 2012, 09:38:36 PM
But you can't see Carlos, or his wife, can you?
Aye ah kin hes jist doon fae the blue light :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 October, 2012, 09:47:55 PM
Fashionably late.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 19 October, 2012, 11:30:04 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 19 October, 2012, 08:30:51 PM
Quote from: Stan on 19 October, 2012, 07:05:15 PM
Is that Chinese?

The film just opened in Hong Kong, which I suppose would make it Cantonese.

For a second there I was hoping someone changed their mind and had it released in China.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 20 October, 2012, 12:37:49 PM
DREDD is No 5 in the Bestseller DVD/BLUE RAY charts on Amazon UK. How the hell did that happen so quick? :eh:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 20 October, 2012, 12:41:18 PM
Quote from: Stan on 19 October, 2012, 11:30:04 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 19 October, 2012, 08:30:51 PM
Quote from: Stan on 19 October, 2012, 07:05:15 PM
Is that Chinese?

The film just opened in Hong Kong, which I suppose would make it Cantonese.

For a second there I was hoping someone changed their mind and had it released in China.

Hong Kong is China.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 20 October, 2012, 12:45:26 PM
I remember reading that China had printed Judge Dredd or JD was available in China. Is that true? Does the Maoist Super State approve of an American Fascist bully boy?   
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 October, 2012, 02:08:59 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 20 October, 2012, 12:41:18 PM
Hong Kong is China.


Unfortunately not for cinema releases. Hong Kong is just Hong Kong.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 20 October, 2012, 02:50:39 PM
Looks like the blu ray release is a double up of the 3d and normal blu ray for 17.50 rather than separate versions like some do?

Looks like ill be leaving that until cheaper then.  Still pushing the 3d even on home release.  Once again waiting will be best then.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 October, 2012, 02:56:45 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 20 October, 2012, 02:50:39 PM
Looks like the blu ray release is a double up of the 3d and normal blu ray for 17.50 rather than separate versions like some do?

Looks like ill be leaving that until cheaper then.  Still pushing the 3d even on home release.  Once again waiting will be best then.

Just buy it, you skinflint!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 October, 2012, 02:58:35 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 20 October, 2012, 02:56:45 PM
Quote from: Something Fishy on 20 October, 2012, 02:50:39 PM
Looks like the blu ray release is a double up of the 3d and normal blu ray for 17.50 rather than separate versions like some do?

Looks like ill be leaving that until cheaper then.  Still pushing the 3d even on home release.  Once again waiting will be best then.

Just buy it, you skinflint!

spread the Dredd love!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 20 October, 2012, 03:03:11 PM
I will, but once it gets a little lower so I don't feel I'm paying for a format I can't enjoy.  They certainly have stuck to their 3d guns.  Pretty sure though the home release won't bomb even with 3d forced in the blu ray as the DVD should do well. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 20 October, 2012, 03:12:54 PM
Just saw the trailer for it on telivison :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 October, 2012, 03:35:48 PM
Did you get a tingle :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 20 October, 2012, 04:41:56 PM
..so... Looking at Amazon I see the merchandise available is.. Fridge magnets?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 20 October, 2012, 05:50:10 PM
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 20 October, 2012, 03:12:54 PM
Just saw the trailer for it on telivison :)

Is Australian telly using the US ads with the rock music and JUST ... DAMN ... AWESOME tagline, or something new? Are you getting the banksy grafitti posters on public transport or just the rooftop poster? Tell me more, tell me more, Thryllseekyr.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 20 October, 2012, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 20 October, 2012, 12:41:18 PM
Quote from: Stan on 19 October, 2012, 11:30:04 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 19 October, 2012, 08:30:51 PM
Quote from: Stan on 19 October, 2012, 07:05:15 PM
Is that Chinese?

The film just opened in Hong Kong, which I suppose would make it Cantonese.

For a second there I was hoping someone changed their mind and had it released in China.

Hong Kong is China.

Thanks, Rick. You learn something new every day.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 October, 2012, 06:20:00 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 20 October, 2012, 04:41:56 PM
..so... Looking at Amazon I see the merchandise available is.. Fridge magnets?

Did you see how they did the prices on those, absolutely hilarious.

Buy a 9cm by 6cm of Dredd shooting while walking up the stairs for 49p.
Buy a 9cm by 6 cm of Dredd with round impacts behind for 49p

OR buy a set of them both for £1.49 :o

It gets even better when they do a set of three for £2.49!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zanti Misfit on 20 October, 2012, 07:07:42 PM
Nice prices and a great idea for merchandise..... Dredd on the fridge, protecting the contents: " I am the Coles-Law!" ::).

Dredd wouldn't really suit our fridge though, my wife already has a set of Miffy and Friends magnets stuck there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mabs on 20 October, 2012, 07:16:09 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 19 October, 2012, 12:41:50 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/m5kIR.jpg)

Thats a superb shot right there!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Trout on 20 October, 2012, 07:54:49 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 October, 2012, 06:20:00 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 20 October, 2012, 04:41:56 PM
..so... Looking at Amazon I see the merchandise available is.. Fridge magnets?

Did you see how they did the prices on those, absolutely hilarious.

Buy a 9cm by 6cm of Dredd shooting while walking up the stairs for 49p.
Buy a 9cm by 6 cm of Dredd with round impacts behind for 49p

OR buy a set of them both for £1.49 :o

It gets even better when they do a set of three for £2.49!

Twelve quid post and packaging.

They can piss off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 October, 2012, 08:19:15 PM
I didn't get that far, as those are the type of magnets you can make yourself but £12  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 October, 2012, 08:30:29 PM
Did I ever tell anyone, me and Pete actually met JUDGE DREDD :D

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/2000ad%20Sites/013.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 20 October, 2012, 08:50:18 PM
Gutted I didn't jump out my seat and get a photo when I had the chance at the Soho screening. :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 October, 2012, 09:14:33 PM
Beat you, CF, as did I mention that I met JUDGE DREDD and the man, Alex!

(http://i.imgur.com/QDljZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 October, 2012, 09:17:46 PM
RUBBISH, just look at those eyes, they are robots. These are the real deal and just look at how Karl is giving me a cuddle  ;)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/2000ad%20Sites/P8300782.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 October, 2012, 09:22:41 PM
RUBBISH! Beat you again as got cuddle from JW!

(http://i.imgur.com/y7l4K.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 October, 2012, 09:26:38 PM
Pah! Try this Goat Monster  :D

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/2000ad%20Sites/033.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 October, 2012, 09:28:31 PM
Pfft! Try this CF!

(http://i.imgur.com/OxHCL.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 20 October, 2012, 09:29:21 PM
Well, if we're all at it...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2K6elDCIAAXbuQ.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Emp on 20 October, 2012, 09:30:01 PM
Goaty..JW looks very uncomfortable in that pic..... :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 20 October, 2012, 09:31:53 PM

Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 October, 2012, 09:26:38 PM
Pah! Try this Goat Monster  :D

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/2000ad%20Sites/033.jpg)


Looks like Mr Wagner has perked up a bit on this one.
Wonder if that pint had owt to do with it. King Carlos looks tiny, that cant be right?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 October, 2012, 09:33:47 PM
Quote from: Emp on 20 October, 2012, 09:30:01 PM
Goaty..JW looks very uncomfortable in that pic..... :P

Wouldn't you be if Goaty attacked you :lol:

And Richmond that is pure love, if ever I saw it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 20 October, 2012, 09:59:48 PM
Stop it, you, you...WHORES...! ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 21 October, 2012, 12:16:48 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 20 October, 2012, 09:29:21 PM
Well, if we're all at it...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2K6elDCIAAXbuQ.jpg:large

Disturbing!

But he is a dish.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 21 October, 2012, 04:15:34 AM
Quote from: sauchie on 20 October, 2012, 05:50:10 PM
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 20 October, 2012, 03:12:54 PM
Just saw the trailer for it on telivison :)

Is Australian telly using the US ads with the rock music and JUST ... DAMN ... AWESOME tagline, or something new? Are you getting the banksy grafitti posters on public transport or just the rooftop poster? Tell me more, tell me more, Thryllseekyr.

Just watch the trailer on the IMDB website here......

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/

It's the same one I saw except the release date is October 25th.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Radbacker on 21 October, 2012, 04:45:18 AM
yep Seeker 25/10 is the OZ release date, must say i was supprised by the add on TV, it still needs the push down here as I really think it can add to the numbers, ill be seeing it at least twice.

CU Radbacker
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 21 October, 2012, 09:01:35 AM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 20 October, 2012, 09:31:53 PMKing Carlos looks tiny, that cant be right?

You woulldn't expect a robo-stogie to be much bigger, now would you?  Damn lads, those are some incredible pics en masse.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 21 October, 2012, 09:20:06 AM
About the 3D blu-ray being bundled, I don't see it as a problem. To be honest I'd have expected to pay that for just the standard blu-ray anyway so having another disc thrown in is just an extra you can choose to ignore.

I don't own a 3D tv and maybe never will but I still bought the 3D edition of Prometheus because the regular disc was in there too and it had way more bonus features than buying the regular edition.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 21 October, 2012, 09:36:14 AM
I think one day all new TV's will ship with a 3D option anyway.If you own a PS3 you already have a 3D capable Blu Ray player.I was sat in front of a TV  about six months ago in Currys that didn't require you to wear glasses.It was amazing ,3D ,42 inch for about 600 notes.
This bundel saves me having to upgrade again.I can't imagin g George Lucas ever doing that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 21 October, 2012, 03:52:55 PM
Once it no longer includes a premium that won't worry, I wouldn't set out to buy a telly costing more for a feature I can't see though.

I'm not sure though, the bubble seems to be bursting as it always does. I reckon higher res might become standard before 3d does.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 21 October, 2012, 03:54:01 PM
True the bundle being good as future proofing for most customers.

An option for those who can't ever enjoy it would be great.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 21 October, 2012, 04:41:10 PM
What I meant is that I'm not convinced you're paying extra for the 3D disc, rather it's in there as a bonus in the same way that a great deal of releases now have digital, DVD and bluray copies all in the same box nowadays. The option for peopled who can't see it is just to ignore it's there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 21 October, 2012, 05:31:10 PM
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 21 October, 2012, 04:15:34 AM
Just watch the trailer on the IMDB website here ... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/ It's the same one I saw except the release date is October 25th.

Cheers, Thryllseekyr. When folk talk about how pish the marketing for the film was, I can only presume they meant the initial trailer, because that ad works well enough in my opinion. I'm sure many more folk watched that ad on TV than ever sought out the trailer on Youtube or saw the original theatrical trailer at the pictures.

When people talk about the role played by a film's trailer in building anticipation for a film over a period of months, I presume they mean among film nerds; because I haven't paid attention to any trailer in years, and I'll be fucked if I can be bothered looking for them on Youtube.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 21 October, 2012, 05:43:04 PM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 21 October, 2012, 09:20:06 AM
About the 3D blu-ray being bundled, I don't see it as a problem. To be honest I'd have expected to pay that for just the standard blu-ray anyway so having another disc thrown in is just an extra you can choose to ignore.

I don't own a 3D tv and maybe never will but I still bought the 3D edition of Prometheus because the regular disc was in there too and it had way more bonus features than buying the regular edition.

Agreed, as ive no real intention of buying a 3D compatable TV anytime soon, if ever. Wonder if there'll be just the one initial DVD/Bluray release for Dredd, or several permutations?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richard on 21 October, 2012, 07:21:33 PM
QuoteThis bundel saves me having to upgrade again.I can't imagin g George Lucas ever doing that.
If only Lucas had died after the third Indiana Jones film, it would have saved everyone a lot of pain.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 21 October, 2012, 08:53:48 PM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 21 October, 2012, 04:41:10 PM
What I meant is that I'm not convinced you're paying extra for the 3D disc, rather it's in there as a bonus in the same way that a great deal of releases now have digital, DVD and bluray copies all in the same box nowadays. The option for peopled who can't see it is just to ignore it's there.


Oh gottya.  It's a fairly high price for a new Blu Ray, hence my thinking that is because of the 3d included.  Not to worry though, it'll come down soon enough.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 21 October, 2012, 09:52:11 PM
Yeah, give it a month or two after release.. Case in point, the Alien anthology bluray set is under £20..

As for 3D tellies.. They're coming along.. http://www.trustedreviews.com/sony-46in-glasses-free-3d-tv_TV_review
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 21 October, 2012, 10:08:04 PM
Oooh, that looks nice!

I'm very tempted to treat myself to a 3D telly just for the release of Dredd anyway.  I live 3D in all it's shapes and forms, so it'll be yet another 3D gizmo to add to all my others (Tomytronic games, Nintendo 3DS, various 3D books with anaglyph glasses, nVidia 3D vision etc etc). Plus it'll give me an excuse to buy a few other 3D films.  I hear Piranha 3D has at least one scene well worth a watch...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 October, 2012, 10:23:32 PM
From photographer Joe Alblas:


(http://joealblas.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Lightbox-DNA_0011.jpg)




To accomplish some of special stills on this project such as the image above we used an old
illusionary technique, which is sometimes still used in theatre productions.
We had our stunt double, Paul Hampshire (featured below) suit up in the same Dredd costume
and placed him in the adjoining room striking a similar pose and had our gaffer, Thomas Neivelt
project a lamp onto him casting a mirror image shadow on an adjacent wall



(http://joealblas.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Paul-Hampshire_D3S5095.jpg)
Paul Hampshire ~ Stunt Double



http://joealblas.com/blog/dredd-3d-just-released/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 October, 2012, 10:39:01 PM
Oh that is smart camera trick
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 21 October, 2012, 11:50:36 PM
It didn't really work for me though. It just left me confused about who was following him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 October, 2012, 11:56:22 PM
Just look at the angle of the shadow, it's all wrong!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 22 October, 2012, 12:03:57 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 October, 2012, 11:56:22 PM
Just look at the angle of the shadow, it's all wrong!

Its like the JFK conspiracies, all over again.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 22 October, 2012, 10:10:39 AM
Quote from: sauchie on 20 October, 2012, 05:50:10 PM
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 20 October, 2012, 03:12:54 PM
Just saw the trailer for it on telivison :)

Is Australian telly using the US ads with the rock music and JUST ... DAMN ... AWESOME tagline, or something new? Are you getting the banksy grafitti posters on public transport or just the rooftop poster? Tell me more, tell me more, Thryllseekyr.

Just saw the trailer you described.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 22 October, 2012, 12:52:16 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 October, 2012, 10:23:32 PM
From photographer Joe Alblas:


(http://joealblas.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Lightbox-DNA_0011.jpg)




To accomplish some of special stills on this project such as the image above we used an old
illusionary technique, which is sometimes still used in theatre productions.
We had our stunt double, Paul Hampshire (featured below) suit up in the same Dredd costume
and placed him in the adjoining room striking a similar pose and had our gaffer, Thomas Neivelt
project a lamp onto him casting a mirror image shadow on an adjacent wall



(http://joealblas.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Paul-Hampshire_D3S5095.jpg)
Paul Hampshire ~ Stunt Double



http://joealblas.com/blog/dredd-3d-just-released/
Very overcomplicated way to do a picture, again I assumed this was related to the Judge Chan scene. Agree, the angle of the shadow doesn't look right.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 22 October, 2012, 02:00:35 PM
Did anyone else think Judge Chan looked like a Ninja Turtle?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 22 October, 2012, 07:50:37 PM
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 22 October, 2012, 10:10:39 AM
Quote from: sauchie on 20 October, 2012, 05:50:10 PM
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 20 October, 2012, 03:12:54 PM
Just saw the trailer for it on telivison :)

Is Australian telly using the US ads with the rock music and JUST ... DAMN ... AWESOME tagline, or something new? Are you getting the banksy grafitti posters on public transport or just the rooftop poster? Tell me more, tell me more, Thryllseekyr.

Just saw the trailer you described.

Cheers, ThryllSeekyr. Feel free to share any Oz-specific reviews you come across on the Reviews thread. I know it's largely academic now, but the 1995 film has taught me that we're all still going to be raking over these coals for years to come. Rotten Tomatoes seems to have stopped adding reviews after the US opening, so everything's appreciated.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 October, 2012, 08:57:30 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 22 October, 2012, 07:50:37 PM
Rotten Tomatoes seems to have stopped adding reviews after the US opening, so everything's appreciated.



They never stopped adding reviews:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd_3d/reviews/

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 22 October, 2012, 10:07:37 PM
Actually I was looking in tesco and its not really high for a blu ray now.  They've all gone up quite a bit since   Last bought any.   Odd when things normally get cheaper over time but they are maybe offsetting the drop off of dvd and blu ray sales with higher prices.  In a recession though, everything still goes up regardless this time,
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 22 October, 2012, 11:10:41 PM
For the life of me I don't know why but I listen to Phil Jupitus and Phillip 'Annoying Prick' Wilding's Perfect 10 podcast.

While listening today, Phil Jupitus RAVED about the Dredd movie, urging his annoying co-host as well as the listeners to go and see it. At the end of the podcast he repeated it, stating if enough people went we'd get a sequel. A bit late now but nice all the same.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 24 October, 2012, 09:07:44 AM
I hope to this film tomorrow night :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 24 October, 2012, 09:10:44 AM
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 24 October, 2012, 09:07:44 AM
I hope to this film tomorrow night :)

I mean, I hope to see this film tomorrow night :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 October, 2012, 09:34:21 AM
Oh lovely(!) Now Dredd 3D include in Total Film new feature's 40 Movies Made Better By Studio Interference

http://www.totalfilm.com/features/40-movies-made-better-by-studio-interference/dredd-2012 (http://www.totalfilm.com/features/40-movies-made-better-by-studio-interference/dredd-2012)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 October, 2012, 09:41:43 AM

What a shite article.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 24 October, 2012, 10:04:45 AM
Erm, that's just completely wrong isn't it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 24 October, 2012, 10:05:16 AM
I'm impressed that Total Film have managed to get to the bottom of whatever went on during post-production on Dredd; especially since the only rumour concerning the nature of any tensions was shot down by Garland himself in the Q&A he held on this site.

http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=36741.0 (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=36741.0)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 24 October, 2012, 11:03:20 AM
Never mind what did/did not occur on the set, we know for a fact that Dredd's script changed very little, and they could only shoot the bare minimum of what they needed.

The idea of 'a more action packed cut' is pure conjecture, and just wrong, which the writer would have realised if they'd bothered to do any research.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 24 October, 2012, 11:22:43 AM
It doesn't really fit the model of studio interference if the guy who's "interfering" is the single person with most creative input and control over the project since its inception. How often is any screenwriter given the opportunity to make sure his original vision makes it to the screen?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 24 October, 2012, 12:20:51 PM
I agree with all the sentiments expressed here about that article.  I'm really not interested in what happened in the cutting room, only that we got a great Dredd film. 
Having said that, what really doesn't add up is the idea that Pete Travis would have shot all of those action sequences only to discard them in the cutting room.   I'm sure he was in no doubt when he started filming that Dredd was an action-drama, and as such it seems almost impossible to conceive that he would have removed all of those sequences (which would have been extremely expensive and time-consuming to shoot) from his edit. 
The article smacks of lazy journalsim at its worst.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 24 October, 2012, 12:50:06 PM
Or, to play Devil's Advocate, maybe it's an article we just don't want to believe?

Who is to say it is not true, given that - as pointed out earlier - the only other source of information is someone directly involved?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 October, 2012, 01:00:06 PM
Yeah but it only from one article, and I find it annoyed that few reviewers used that as they don't check out other souces? And one troll repetitive used it as proof of why the film will flop!

It's really annoyed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 24 October, 2012, 01:12:51 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 24 October, 2012, 12:50:06 PM
Or, to play Devil's Advocate, maybe it's an article we just don't want to believe?

Who is to say it is not true, given that - as pointed out earlier - the only other source of information is someone directly involved?

You're far too reasonable Richard!  Come on, jump in and join us in trashing this article!  You know you want to!  And I can confirm that the water's lovely!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 24 October, 2012, 01:31:58 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 24 October, 2012, 12:50:06 PM
Or, to play Devil's Advocate, maybe it's an article we just don't want to believe?

Who is to say it is not true, given that - as pointed out earlier - the only other source of information is someone directly involved?

I would have no problem believing it, im not reacting to the article because it somehow offends me, but it seems to be entirely based on conjecture.

Alex has stated many times that the assembly cut of the film was 97mins long. The finished film is pretty much beat for beat what is on the page of the leaked script.

The statement that there were more action scenes inserted simply isn't true, and is a result of the writer putting two and two together and coming up with five.

There were reshoots, but as far as I can tell these were to alter the opening scene (the hotshot) and the ending with the dead mans switch.

In any case, Dredd was an entirely independent film - I doubt very much the 'studio' had much input.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 24 October, 2012, 01:45:29 PM
I find it pretty annoying how apparent film journalists don't bother to do any research.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 24 October, 2012, 02:09:13 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 24 October, 2012, 12:50:06 PM
Or, to play Devil's Advocate, maybe it's an article we just don't want to believe? Who is to say it is not true, given that - as pointed out earlier - the only other source of information is someone directly involved?

Nah, I couldn't give a monkey's about whether there were harsh words exchanged or who overruled who; folk working on films have exactly the same antipathy toward their colleagues as the staff of MacDonalds. The author of that article admits that the idea the producers of Dredd added more action scenes comes from essentially the same source as the rumour that surfaced in January that they were "very worried" about the level of violence on display; an insider.

That came from an academic posting on IMDB using the name SonofTorah, who had a student working as an intern on the film. Like the Total Film writer, his information came from "an insider" too; but Garland said it was bollocks, and the fact that (in January) he'd just directed a different version of the opening scene - where a guy's head melts - suggests he wasn't rethinking the decision to aim for an R-rating.

We know they used almost every second of film that was shot, so the idea that anything "the studio" did made a significant difference to the amount of action on display - which is the premise of the feature Goaty linked to - seems very unlikely. As long as the author of that article's just making shit up, I'd prefer it if he would embrace the process, go all out, and invent something more interesting. Like Urban wanted a sex scene with a robot; at least that would be entertaining.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 24 October, 2012, 02:41:13 PM

Quotehis information came from "an insider" too; but Garland said it was bollocks,

So it's just one man's word against anothers and you have choosen who to believe.


QuoteWe know they used almost every second of film that was shot

No we don't. None of us were on set, so we could not possibly know.

QuoteAs long as the author of that article's just making shit up

I think you may be on shaky legal ground with this sort of statment...

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 24 October, 2012, 02:47:47 PM
Reading between the lines, it seems like much of the conjecture and confusion comes from Dredd having a more inclusive arrangement for the writer and producers and having a director on more of a work-for-hire basis than in total control. We're so used to hearing about directors driving films and even paying scant regard to source material, and every now and again you hear about a writer who felt privileged to be on set for a little bit. Here, you have a writer driving the film, a director directing it, a DP making everything look great, and so on. That such a collaborative effort isn't more commonplace and has been questioned repeatedly (and now being defined as 'studio interference') is baffling.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 24 October, 2012, 02:48:17 PM
QuoteI think you may be on shaky legal ground with this sort of statment...

If there's anyone on 'shaky legal ground' (and there isn't) it would be Total Film.
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 24 October, 2012, 03:09:21 PM
Well they're definitely wrong about the Director's Cut of Daredevil...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 24 October, 2012, 03:15:05 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 24 October, 2012, 02:41:13 PM
So it's just one man's word against anothers and you have choosen who to believe. None of us were on set, so we could not possibly know.

The second part of that statement's entirely true, Rich. I stated the reason why I think the "insider gossip" seems unlikely to have much substance (last page), but I suppose if Garland was lying about the amount of footage they shot and the amount of footage that was used, my reasoning would be unsound. I'm a big Larry Sanders fan, Rich, so I'm under no illusions about how much deception and self-deception goes on in the entertainment industry.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 October, 2012, 03:16:08 PM
When I see the words According to insider gossip, I just roll my eyes!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 October, 2012, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 24 October, 2012, 02:41:13 PM
QuoteAs long as the author of that article's just making shit up

I think you may be on shaky legal ground with this sort of statment...


Taking the article by itself, the author added nothing to the original rumour started on IMDB (by someone who said he heard that everything in the film looked like a car-park) I think he just repurposed what hearsay he gathered on the internet for the 'article' and conflated it. I doubt the author has personal contact with any 'insider'. Putting it all under the heading 'Studio interference' is the giveaway for me that the writer is just filling web-space.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 24 October, 2012, 03:56:17 PM
Pete Travis said it was bollocks as well in an interview with Empire.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HunterZolomon on 24 October, 2012, 03:57:23 PM
Found an interesting article about the Economics and Ramifications of Dredd  (http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd/23066/the-economics-and-ramifications-of-dredd)

Sorry if it's been posted before.

Also, DVD and BluRay release in UK January 14th, 2013. But I guess you already know that. ;)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 October, 2012, 09:31:19 PM
Few new stills

(http://i.imgur.com/7zpxp.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/aN0TB.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/7umNU.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Radbacker on 25 October, 2012, 12:45:39 PM
woo hoo, IT'S DREDD TIME MOTHERDROKKERS
Im off to the cinema

CU Radbacker
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 October, 2012, 01:01:49 PM
Have a fun, creep!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 25 October, 2012, 02:11:38 PM
Just saw it, and it satisfied me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 25 October, 2012, 02:30:08 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 October, 2012, 03:16:08 PM
When I see the words According to insider gossip, I just roll my eyes!

My super secret sauces disagree!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 25 October, 2012, 02:37:58 PM
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 25 October, 2012, 02:11:38 PM
Just saw it, and it satisfied me.
Can't say fairer than that!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Radbacker on 25 October, 2012, 03:06:50 PM
man that was rather arsom, very pretty to look at for such a violent flick [spoiler]the end of Ma Ma a particular highlight[/spoiler].  Really hope it does just  enough to get a sequal it was great and all, hell that was Dredd, just like a single or two part episode straight from the prog but the story was just a little bit too small, im greedy and want a Mega Epic.  Perfect for what we got though and well even though there was only about 20 people in the cinema they all seemed to be quite impressed by the end and the walking out chatter was very positive. A group of younguns (about 16 or 17) in front of me all comented they were glad they saw that instead of Taken 2 so hopefully word of mouth gets around a bit next couple of days, im certainly goingto do my part.
speaking of which i had no idea people actuallygo to the cinema not knowing what they're going to watch tehre was a couple in the line infront of me who were getting the synopsis read to them by the attendent so they could decide what to watch :o ive never seen that before, anyway despite my gentle attemt to persuade them to see Dredd (i shouted thats the one to see when she was talking about Dredd) they decided to go see Argo, which im sure is good and all but ifeel the poor buggers missed out a bit :P

CU Radbacker
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 25 October, 2012, 03:43:35 PM
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 25 October, 2012, 02:11:38 PM
Just saw it, and it satisfied me.

Sexually?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 25 October, 2012, 03:46:19 PM
I didn't think the 3D was that good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Third Estate Ned on 25 October, 2012, 07:00:21 PM
Just found out that no distribution company in my country (Italy) has bought the rights for Dredd and based on how it's gone so far it doesn't look that hopeful, although this "fact" is based from a contributor to another forum so you never know. In the past other low grossing films have still been distributed but there's no whiff of anything at all on the web.

Maybe I'll make a trip to Oz.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 October, 2012, 09:45:09 PM
Cool pic of Karl Urban without helmet and flak jacket! I want that leather jacket!

(http://i.imgur.com/n2XVN.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strangelysaucy on 25 October, 2012, 10:04:04 PM
wow! nice one!!!! where did you unearth that one?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 October, 2012, 10:41:17 PM
Quote from: strangelysaucy on 25 October, 2012, 10:04:04 PM
wow! nice one!!!! where did you unearth that one?


Same place as these:

(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/dredd-vincentetoto/1114_525104187516954_101095577_n.jpg)


(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/dredd-vincentetoto/223758_525103700850336_1122633460_n.jpg)

(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/dredd-vincentetoto/270436_525102557517117_1437582630_n.jpg)

(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/dredd-vincentetoto/320461_525103337517039_1535936028_n.jpg)



http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t1237/dredd-extras-behind-the-scenes-on-set-making-offs/60/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 October, 2012, 10:47:28 PM
http://www.facebook.com/VincentEToto


(http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/22700_525103464183693_637334704_n.jpg)


(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/578428_525104014183638_877432479_n.jpg)


(http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/522795_525103580850348_845568687_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/557862_525103144183725_379240873_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 25 October, 2012, 11:01:01 PM
Interesting - is the difference in the helmet badge and grey stripe to denote rank?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 October, 2012, 11:02:02 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 25 October, 2012, 11:01:01 PM
Interesting - is the difference in the helmet badge and grey stripe to denote rank?


Seems to be.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 25 October, 2012, 11:04:22 PM
Although doesn't make much sense since Anderson has the same ranked helmet as Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 October, 2012, 11:10:59 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 25 October, 2012, 11:04:22 PM
Although doesn't make much sense since Anderson has the same ranked helmet as Dredd.

Fan-wank engaged

Could be construed as a difference between Street Judge and some kind of auxiliary (ex-cops who don't have the power to judge instantly)?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 25 October, 2012, 11:28:26 PM
Who are armed? ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 25 October, 2012, 11:31:28 PM
Interestingly, some of Jock's concept art had the grey helmet stripe.

Cool to see a close up of the windbreaker judge finally.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 October, 2012, 11:32:34 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 25 October, 2012, 11:28:26 PM
Who are armed? ;)


You don't bring a knife to a gun fight.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 25 October, 2012, 11:55:50 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 October, 2012, 10:47:28 PM
(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/578428_525104014183638_877432479_n.jpg)

Hey up, whats this? We never saw this Fella in the film, did we?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 October, 2012, 11:59:30 PM

Quote from: Judge Jack on 25 October, 2012, 11:55:50 PM
Hey up, whats this? We never saw this Fella in the film, did we?


They're in the background of several shots at the start and end of the film:


(http://i.imgur.com/m5kIR.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 26 October, 2012, 12:00:02 AM
Maybe he's SJS.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 October, 2012, 12:01:52 AM
Cool pics, hope more behind the scenes ones show up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 26 October, 2012, 08:21:04 AM
Sweet lawmaster pics,would love to read an article on that,how they made it,specs etc...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 26 October, 2012, 10:41:24 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 October, 2012, 11:59:30 PM

Quote from: Judge Jack on 25 October, 2012, 11:55:50 PM
Hey up, whats this? We never saw this Fella in the film, did we?

They're in the background of several shots at the start and end of the film

Ah, so they are. Nice one Joe. Its great that little bits and bobs, like this, are still popping up.
Hopefully an extensive photo/image gallery - from Jock's concepts to behind the scenes stuff, will feature on the Bluray.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 26 October, 2012, 11:53:13 AM
Would've been nice if these pictures came to light  about a year ago.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 October, 2012, 12:24:16 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 26 October, 2012, 11:53:13 AM
Would've been nice if these pictures came to light  about a year ago.

Why?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 26 October, 2012, 12:56:14 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 26 October, 2012, 12:24:16 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 26 October, 2012, 11:53:13 AM
Would've been nice if these pictures came to light  about a year ago.

Why?

To look at.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 26 October, 2012, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 25 October, 2012, 11:55:50 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 October, 2012, 10:47:28 PM
(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/578428_525104014183638_877432479_n.jpg)

Hey up, whats this? We never saw this Fella in the film, did we?
This guy must either had the longest head in history or there is majour padding under the helmet.
The helmet looks like it should fit but is way too high up on his face for some reason.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 26 October, 2012, 04:12:30 PM
Do we know if that's a real gun or has it been 'near-futured'?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strangelysaucy on 26 October, 2012, 04:28:11 PM
Quote from: Stan on 26 October, 2012, 04:12:30 PM
Do we know if that's a real gun or has it been 'near-futured'?

that's a Vektor CR-21 South African made bull-pup carbine. Looks awesome!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 26 October, 2012, 04:28:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDF1rVbfXcU
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 27 October, 2012, 03:30:21 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 26 October, 2012, 12:56:14 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 26 October, 2012, 12:24:16 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 26 October, 2012, 11:53:13 AM
Would've been nice if these pictures came to light  about a year ago.

Why?

To look at.

YEP! Would have loved more quality promo earlier on.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strangelysaucy on 27 October, 2012, 09:34:39 PM
(http://www.paulhampshire.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/DREDD-12.jpg)

(http://www.paulhampshire.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/DREDD-21.jpg)

:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 27 October, 2012, 11:41:39 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 26 October, 2012, 08:21:04 AM
Sweet lawmaster pics,would love to read an article on that,how they made it,specs etc...

Fibreglass shell over a lashed up GSX-R750 K6..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 27 October, 2012, 11:45:50 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 26 October, 2012, 12:24:16 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 26 October, 2012, 11:53:13 AM
Would've been nice if these pictures came to light  about a year ago.

Why?

I'm gonna put my neck on the line here and hazard a guess. So that we could see them ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 28 October, 2012, 09:18:49 AM
Would have been my guess as well.
Some people have to snipe though  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 October, 2012, 09:43:26 AM
So is that Paul Hampshire on the bike (I thought Karl was doing all that stuff?)? And who is Chan?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 28 October, 2012, 10:00:50 AM
Quote from: Stan on 28 October, 2012, 09:43:26 AM
So is that Paul Hampshire on the bike (I thought Karl was doing all that stuff?)? And who is Chan?

That's a set snap, not a scene from the actual film. Chan was the guy on the end of the "choke on this" line, and he was played by someone called Karl Thaning.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 28 October, 2012, 10:31:05 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 27 October, 2012, 11:41:39 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 26 October, 2012, 08:21:04 AM
Sweet lawmaster pics,would love to read an article on that,how they made it,specs etc...

Fibreglass shell over a lashed up GSX-R750 K6..
Nice,cheers.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 28 October, 2012, 10:33:52 AM
I've got a vague idea what my next bikes gonna be...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 28 October, 2012, 10:41:30 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 28 October, 2012, 10:33:52 AM
I've got a vague idea what my next bikes gonna be...

Just don't modify it with bigger wheels, Danbo; Urban says it was an absolute bugger to steer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 28 October, 2012, 10:57:14 AM
Yeah,I can tell just by looking at it,probably just get a black one and savour the engine rumble.A nice two foot model for my mantel piece would be cool too if anyone's reading.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 28 October, 2012, 11:47:30 AM


Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 October, 2012, 10:41:17 PM


(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/dredd-vincentetoto/270436_525102557517117_1437582630_n.jpg)


Well, I don't know what to say. After all those months (years?) of crappy stolen shots and no publicity- which ultimately led to Dredd's crashing failure at the box office, we find out they had this. If that shot had been released at the start, along with a nice posed shot of Urban and the Lawmaster against a black background, the Internet would have gone mental. And for the right reasons this time. What an absolute waste and a massive pile of shit the marketing for Dredd was. It's enough to make a grown man cry.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 28 October, 2012, 11:50:03 AM
Agreed
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 28 October, 2012, 11:53:28 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 28 October, 2012, 11:47:30 AM


Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 October, 2012, 10:41:17 PM


(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/dredd-vincentetoto/270436_525102557517117_1437582630_n.jpg)


Well, I don't know what to say. After all those months (years?) of crappy stolen shots and no publicity- which ultimately led to Dredd's crashing failure at the box office, we find out they had this. If that shot had been released at the start, along with a nice posed shot of Urban and the Lawmaster against a black background, the Internet would have gone mental. And for the right reasons this time. What an absolute waste and a massive pile of shit the marketing for Dredd was. It's enough to make a grown man cry.

SBT

THIS ^^^^^^^^  !!  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 28 October, 2012, 11:57:19 AM
Mmmm... now I'm not a marketing guru or anything, but I'm not sure that releasing one photograph and not another would have made such a fundamental change to the box office performance of the movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 28 October, 2012, 11:57:40 AM
Perhaps Dredd's failure to set the box office alight was down to several factors, but stuff like this wouldnt have gone amiss, thats for sure.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 28 October, 2012, 11:59:40 AM
Totally agree, they were sitting on these fantastic shots all along, and chose to release a couple of dodgy, half darkened ones that did the film no favours at all. If these had been spread around the net before release it could have made a hell of a difference.

Frickin assholes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 October, 2012, 12:05:42 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 28 October, 2012, 11:57:19 AM
Mmmm... now I'm not a marketing guru or anything, but I'm not sure that releasing one photograph and not another would have made such a fundamental change to the box office performance of the movie.


True. The great posters that followed made little difference to people's pre-conceived notions.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 28 October, 2012, 12:14:32 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 October, 2012, 12:05:42 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 28 October, 2012, 11:57:19 AM
Mmmm... now I'm not a marketing guru or anything, but I'm not sure that releasing one photograph and not another would have made such a fundamental change to the box office performance of the movie.


True. The great posters that followed made little difference to people's pre-conceived notions.

Because........their pre-conceived notions had not been altered one jot from the 1995 debacle due to a terible marketing campaign.Hardly anything had been released in the previous 12 months . Using good quality material such as these photos would help alter that, lots of stuff like this should have been issued over a longer period of time to keep getting the message across that this film was different and was worth checking out.
It was irretrievably stupid just to sit on these photos, baffles me why they did.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 28 October, 2012, 12:20:25 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 28 October, 2012, 11:53:28 AM
(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/dredd-vincentetoto/270436_525102557517117_1437582630_n.jpg)


Cute as a button, aint she?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 28 October, 2012, 12:32:26 PM
QuoteCute as a button, aint she?

Yeah, which is exactly the image of the movie this picture would have given...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 28 October, 2012, 12:45:07 PM
Leaving aside the marketing side of things, it is a source of ongoing amazement that Anderson's costume is without any obvious sexual differentiation (plausible and comics-coinsistent removal of helmet aside).  More evidence for this film having its heart firmly in the right place.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 October, 2012, 12:57:21 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 28 October, 2012, 12:14:32 PM
Because........their pre-conceived notions had not been altered one jot from the 1995 debacle due to a terible marketing campaign.Hardly anything had been released in the previous 12 months . Using good quality material such as these photos would help alter that, lots of stuff like this should have been issued over a longer period of time to keep getting the message across that this film was different and was worth checking out.
It was irretrievably stupid just to sit on these photos, baffles me why they did.


I think the pre-conception left-over from the '95 film in the US was almost insurmountable for such a lesser-known foreign character. The only conception the US audience had of Dredd was a previous failure by a huge star who was also one of their own and to them if Stallone couldn't do it no one else could. Those pictures wouldn't have made a dent outside the comic-film community - just like all the good reviews and great screening reactions made little difference - and that unfortunately is where it mattered the most. A different red-band trailer may have helped after the first one but we'll never know. They were banking on a good US reception to sell the film world-wide without a huge advertising spend, it didn't follow through.

All the money in the world probably wouldn't have convinced the target demographic in the US that Dredd wasn't supposed to be like Stallone. You can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 28 October, 2012, 01:41:17 PM
Other properties have been successfully remade so audiences are ,in fact, open to it.However, you need to convince them that it is radically different than what came before.They didn't show the general public that it was different.

When the end product is sound and is still beaten by the likes of Howard the Duck and The Spirit in the historic box office charts then you have to point to the marketing (or rather the lack of it).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 28 October, 2012, 01:44:17 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 28 October, 2012, 01:41:17 PM
Other properties have been successfully remade so audiences are ,in fact, open to it.However, you need to convince them that it is radically different than what came before.They didn't show the general public that it was different.

When the end product is sound and is still beaten by the likes of Howard the Duck and The Spirit in the historic box office charts then you have to point to the marketing (or rather the lack of it).

That may be the case, but it is absurd to say that releasing one picture would have made a $50mil + difference to the box office.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 October, 2012, 02:07:24 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 28 October, 2012, 01:41:17 PM
Other properties have been successfully remade so audiences are ,in fact, open to it.However, you need to convince them that it is radically different than what came before.They didn't show the general public that it was different.


True, but there's no examples in recent memory of bad/unsuccessful films with bad reputations being remade/rebooted that became successful. The Punisher is a case in point and that is a Marvel comics character with a built-in audience in the US.

I really don't know how they could show/prove it was a different film to the target audience without manually forcing them to see it. The screening reactions indicated this. The only people who took any real notice of the marketing/news for this film were comic fans. A few photos wouldn't change that.


QuoteWhen the end product is sound and is still beaten by the likes of Howard the Duck and The Spirit in the historic box office charts then you have to point to the marketing (or rather the lack of it)


Well Howard the Duck was made by Lucasfilm during a time when they could do no wrong and films with almost no marketing still made more money than Dredd the week it was released suggesting that it's not as simple as publishing better pictures.

Dredd was just unfortunate being released in what happened to be the year of only the 3 biggest superhero films ever plus the previous effort was a flop did not help.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 28 October, 2012, 02:46:51 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 28 October, 2012, 01:44:17 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 28 October, 2012, 01:41:17 PM
Other properties have been successfully remade so audiences are ,in fact, open to it.However, you need to convince them that it is radically different than what came before.They didn't show the general public that it was different.

When the end product is sound and is still beaten by the likes of Howard the Duck and The Spirit in the historic box office charts then you have to point to the marketing (or rather the lack of it).

That may be the case, but it is absurd to say that releasing one picture would have made a $50mil + difference to the box office.

???Nobodys said that.As part of a wider and longer campaign ,more material (including photos but not just photos), esp short clips and teaser trailers, should have been used.

Dredd being released in a year of successful comic book adaptations was a positive not a negative.Dredd should have rode on their tails ala 'heres another great adaptation'.With short teasers before showing Dredd a the 'dessert' after the main courses so to speak.

The 'buzz' with Joe public to see it wasn't remotely there.Fine product, little take up =poor marketing.We've going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 28 October, 2012, 02:51:42 PM
Quote???Nobodys said that.
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 28 October, 2012, 11:53:28 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 28 October, 2012, 11:47:30 AM


Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 October, 2012, 10:41:17 PM


(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/dredd-vincentetoto/270436_525102557517117_1437582630_n.jpg)


Well, I don't know what to say. After all those months (years?) of crappy stolen shots and no publicity- which ultimately led to Dredd's crashing failure at the box office, we find out they had this. If that shot had been released at the start, along with a nice posed shot of Urban and the Lawmaster against a black background, the Internet would have gone mental. And for the right reasons this time. What an absolute waste and a massive pile of shit the marketing for Dredd was. It's enough to make a grown man cry.

SBT

THIS ^^^^^^^^  !!  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 October, 2012, 02:58:05 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 28 October, 2012, 02:46:51 PM???Nobodys said that.As part of a wider and longer campaign ,more material (including photos but not just photos), esp short clips and teaser trailers, should have been used.


A longer marketing campaign wouldn't have made much difference. A wider one would have been more than the film's budget.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 October, 2012, 03:16:35 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 October, 2012, 12:05:42 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 28 October, 2012, 11:57:19 AM
Mmmm... now I'm not a marketing guru or anything, but I'm not sure that releasing one photograph and not another would have made such a fundamental change to the box office performance of the movie.


True. The great posters that followed made little difference to people's pre-conceived notions.

Yep.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 28 October, 2012, 03:20:45 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 October, 2012, 02:58:05 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 28 October, 2012, 02:46:51 PM???Nobodys said that.As part of a wider and longer campaign ,more material (including photos but not just photos), esp short clips and teaser trailers, should have been used.


A longer marketing campaign wouldn't have made much difference. A wider one would have been more than the film's budget.
7

I'm going to have to set a Yoda quote on you 'Always with you it can not be done'   :D

RC -Obviously not just a couple of photos   ::) for petes sake.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 October, 2012, 03:23:22 PM


No need to bring Pete into this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cookyman on 28 October, 2012, 05:05:30 PM
Hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it?

I'm as gutted as the rest of you that Dredd underperformed at the box office - it was a cracking film and it's not only us that think so the majority of reviews back this up. 

However it was a long shot this being a box office success both Alex Garland and Karl Urban admitted this:

Alex Garland -

QuoteIf I was involved in a second movie, it would be about origins and subversion, and Chopper would feature. In fact, I think Chopper would start and end the story. Apart from him, my rough plan involves Fargo, Giant, Angel Gang, and a version of Satanus. For a trilogy, add Cal and the Dark Judges. And Anderson would be in all three. But... just to be clear, this is hugely speculative and also unlikely, for any number of reasons... There are some variables which would rule me out [of any sequel] immediately.

Karl Urban -
Quote"I don't know. I'm kind of at the point where I'm not even thinking about a sequel. I just want to release this film, and I just hope that audiences will embrace it and – look, if this is a one-off cult-classic – and I firmly believe this is a cult-classic film instantly – I'm good. Seriously, I'm really happy. If we make no more['Dredd' films], fine. Honestly, it wouldn't bother me at all. But if we get to make more of them, then I would love to do that, too. I really would. I would just look forward to continuing the journey and sort of broadening it up, seeing more of this world, more of these characters. I think one of the greatest strengths about this film is the relationship between Dredd and Anderson, you know. There's a good chemistry between those two characters. They play off each other really well."

So we can all blame lack of publicity pics, lack of marketing etc but we should we be glad we got such an unapologetic badass movie. 

Stranger things have happened though and this could over time become a huge hit on DVD/BLU-Ray and become a cult movie that demands a sequel - lets keep our fingers crossed folks. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 28 October, 2012, 06:32:40 PM
Quite obviously, a single photo- or two, as i mentioned- would not have made thousands turn up to watch. But, released a year or two ago, they may have helped ease some of the damage done by the leaked pics. Leaked pics that made the internet ripple with a year-long "it looks shit". There was never an attempt to limit that damage. We waited, sure that it was all part of a clever marketing campaign- that never came.
They even closed down fan sites who were doing their job for them, without the nous to have a decent campaign ready to take over. In the end, we got a couple of so-so trailers that did nothing to erase memory of the 95 version, and a couple of bad posters- one too similar to a marvel flop to avoid direct comparison, and neither even bothering to tell the audience what the movie's about or who was in it. Employ karl urban, cover his face by all means- but at least tell people he's in it! Ditto olivia thirlby. Argh. It's just a catalogue of disastrous decision-making. And now it's over, all (cont)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 28 October, 2012, 06:41:37 PM
(cont) we can do is poke the ashes to work out why it failed.

Something killed it- if you lot are to be believed it was the most magnificent movie of the year, so there has to be a reason. If we all get to be wildly optimistic beforehand, we all at least should be allowed to discuss why it bombed so catastrophically. And the marketing seems to be the obvious reason- marketing which, nowadays, begins when the production kicks off.

An interesting experiment will be to compare dredd to the upcoming evil dead remake. This has been utterly murdered by the fans and public so far- another remake, of a classic, a totally worthless endeavour. However, theyve just released a barnstorming redband trailer that caused jaws to drop. Will that translate to bums on seats, for what was only a tiny cult movie that made fuck-all at the box office in the first place, but which was profitable for the investors and a critical hit? Like dredd, we ask is there a mainstream audience for evil dead at all?
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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: W. R. Logan on 28 October, 2012, 07:18:27 PM
It's easy to work out why Dredd failed, not enough people went to see it.
Despite positive fan feedback and good reviews not enough people parted with their money.
We can only hope that all those under 18's and people who hate 3D buy it on DVD when it comes out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 28 October, 2012, 07:34:06 PM
Quote from: Cookyman on 28 October, 2012, 05:05:30 PM
Hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it?

I'm as gutted as the rest of you that Dredd underperformed at the box office - it was a cracking film and it's not only us that think so the majority of reviews back this up. 

However it was a long shot this being a box office success

So we can all blame lack of publicity pics, lack of marketing etc but we should we be glad we got such an unapologetic badass movie. 

Stranger things have happened though and this could over time become a huge hit on DVD/BLU-Ray and become a cult movie that demands a sequel - lets keep our fingers crossed folks.

Not hindsight, it was debated at length on here for many many months before the film was released.

Without question we are all grateful for the film we have and to those who made it.A sequel was always a long shot, given the figures it needed to reach -that it didn't even come close was due to some poor marketing decisions.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 October, 2012, 09:09:21 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 28 October, 2012, 06:41:37 PMAn interesting experiment will be to compare dredd to the upcoming evil dead remake. This has been utterly murdered by the fans and public so far- another remake, of a classic, a totally worthless endeavour. However, theyve just released a barnstorming redband trailer that caused jaws to drop. Will that translate to bums on seats, for what was only a tiny cult movie that made fuck-all at the box office in the first place, but which was profitable for the investors and a critical hit? Like dredd, we ask is there a mainstream audience for evil dead at all?



The original Evil Dead made $2,400,000 in the US and $29,400,000 worldwide from a $400,000 budget. A successful film by any measure.

I think the new one will be a bad comparison with Dredd. Evil Dead reboot is a horror film with Sam Raimi's name floating around its vicinity, it'll make its money just like Drag me to Hell did. Look at how the badly reviewed the Possession faired: box-office: $73,037,581, budget: $14 million and that was crap and had no marketing apart from Jennifer Lawrence's face. Horror sells.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 October, 2012, 09:43:26 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 28 October, 2012, 07:34:06 PMA sequel was always a long shot, given the figures it needed to reach -that it didn't even come close was due to some poor marketing decisions.


How do you convince the average American male that a smaller scaled 3D reboot of a previous flop that starred one of their childhood heroes (currently in a career resurrection) now replaced with a lesser-known actor whose face we never see, is worth their money?

How do you communicate that to an audience outside the comic-community without spending a lot of money?

What other comic/sci-fi/action films have ever been in that position? The closest example is the Punisher and it didn't do much better.

Dredd was a hard-sell, Lionsgate could have done more in regards a second trailer highlighting different aspects and pumped out 2D screenings but it's anyone's guess what the result would have been. Dredd had bad precedent yet good reviews but no one reads reviews.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 October, 2012, 11:31:32 PM
Kind've agreeing with both sides here but I think there's certainly a good argument for Anderson being pushed more. I know Dredd isn't exactly a date movie but she's a co-star more or less pushed as a drippy damsel in distress as far as the main trailer went. The TV spots may have been even worse in this regard. This was probably the most wasteful aspect of the marketing campaign.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 28 October, 2012, 11:49:12 PM
I don't think anything more done would have made much difference. The great unwashed are just not ready (or ever will be) for a Dredd film. Quality is wasted on the masses as was proven with this film.




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 October, 2012, 12:32:41 AM
I agree to a large extent and don't see the marketing campaign as being a horrific mess as some do. I just think they could've pushed the main characters a little more. Specifically Anderson, with maybe a splash of Dredd's dry wit. Just something to intrigue the audience and give them some hope that there's a couple of leads worth investing in. Not just a couple of cardboard cut-outs who could be stitched into any other action film of a similar type. Which they weren't in my opinion.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 October, 2012, 12:38:34 AM
Quote from: sauchie on 28 October, 2012, 10:00:50 AM
Quote from: Stan on 28 October, 2012, 09:43:26 AM
So is that Paul Hampshire on the bike (I thought Karl was doing all that stuff?)? And who is Chan?

That's a set snap, not a scene from the actual film. Chan was the guy on the end of the "choke on this" line, and he was played by someone called Karl Thaning.

Oh and thanks. I was actually thinking it was the choke judge earlier. Though I wasn't aware the guy in the pic was a stunt double. Maybe it's a union thing but the role is so small you wonder why they wouldn't just hire the stunt man in these situations instead. He can obviously act enough to have his throat crushed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DrRocka on 29 October, 2012, 01:51:50 AM
For what it's worth, I think the biggest killer to Dredd's box office was the sheer lack of 2d showings. It cost nearly a tenner each for just the tickets when Dad and I saw it, factor in petrol, a pint beforehand and a snack and you're looking at thirty to forty quid for a night out.

Last night, we saw Skyfall in a smaller cinema in the next town over. This cinema shows one film a week at 7.30 every night, tickets cost 4.50 for adults, and snacks range from cups of tea and coffee (served in mugs!) to popcorn, choc ices etc, none of which cost more than a two quid. The place was packed, it seemed to be the kind of place where people bring their kids, dates, whatever on a saturday night. It struck me that you could bring a family of four there, enjoy the film, food, stop for a pint later and still have change from thirty quid.

The 3d was a fantastic part of Dredd, and I thought it really added to the cinema experience. But 9.20 a ticket? I wouldn't have gone to see it paying that price if it wasn't my beloved Dredd.

And I reckon that's where it all f**ked up - there was a very limited amount of cheaper 2d screenings, so casual cinemagoers like those I shared Bond with last night didn't consider it.

And that's my tuppence worth.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 29 October, 2012, 09:20:50 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 October, 2012, 09:43:26 PM
What other comic/sci-fi/action films have ever been in that position? The closest example is the Punisher and it didn't do much better.

In fact, it actually did worse. As bad as Dredd's US box office was it still cleared a few more million than War Zone.

It crossed my mind recently when thinking about the possibility of strong blu-ray/dvd sales being enough to prompt a sequel, and the only example I can think of that is War Zone, which went on to take far, far less than the original.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 29 October, 2012, 10:35:28 AM
Quote from: DrRocka on 29 October, 2012, 01:51:50 AMFor what it's worth, I think the biggest killer to Dredd's box office was the sheer lack of 2d showings.
It's a gamble, though—perhaps Dredd would have had roughly the same audience, but made less since 2D tickets were cheaper. I do, however, wish there'd been a longer tail in the UK with 2D showings being more commonplace.

As for Anderson, it's still really interesting to see how well she went down with women. Naturally, this is due to her being a decent character and also through being treated in the judge sense no differently from a man; this, however, contrasts heavily with other comic-book fare (and also general action movie fare), with even The Avengers going a bit hmmm with some aspects of Black Widow. That all said, I'm not sure exactly what they could have done marketing-wise to push Anderson more—she certainly had some great moments in the trailer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 29 October, 2012, 10:42:20 AM
Quote from: vzzbux on 28 October, 2012, 11:49:12 PM
I don't think anything more done would have made much difference. The great unwashed are just not ready (or ever will be) for a Dredd film. Quality is wasted on the masses as was proven with this film.

I disagree, the trailer didn't do justice to what the film was like at all, and if it had a lot more people would have gone to watch it. I think one of main reasons there were so many good reviews initially was because people were really surprised at how good it was. I wouldn't say that the original trailer was bad, just really generic. Even if they had used the recent trend of that droney sound every couple of seconds with flashes of images, it would have worked a lot better. I also still think they should have used the music from the film.

Speaking of which, do you think they will do one for the dvd? And are they normally much different?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 29 October, 2012, 10:55:48 AM
I might be in the minority, but I thought the trailer was fantastic. Everyone I knew who watched it suddenly became interested in the movie, it seemed to convince them it was going to be something dark and stylish. It was something dark and stylish, so I don't think the trailer misrepresented the movie at all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 29 October, 2012, 01:00:49 PM
Quote from: Stan on 28 October, 2012, 11:31:32 PM
...she's a co-star more or less pushed as a drippy damsel in distress as far as the main trailer went.

I think we must have seen different trailers.  All I saw was her kicking seven kinds of arse.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 29 October, 2012, 01:48:20 PM
Having had enough time to peruse these new photos and have a think about it, I think that it was something of a mistake to hold this stuff back for so long. Knowing that these great potential promo images were sat on for so long just boggles my mind. I'm sure it wouldn't have taken a superhuman effort to release just a couple of these images many months ago.

Ah well...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 29 October, 2012, 01:48:43 PM
I wasn't blown away by the trailer - it made the dialogue sound really cheesy (the line 'It makes time pass at 1 per cent it's normal speed' is especially clunky, and sounds even worse out of context.

The music - La Roux's In for the Kill - was poorly chosen and inappropriate - that aspect alone put off people I know. The film's actual soundtrack is great and would have served the trailer far better.

Being critical - perhaps the 'wow' moments in Dredd are unsuitable for a trailer because they're either incredibly violent, spoilery, slower paced or more subtle character beats, and that to me is why the trailer lacks punch. They heavily emphasise the slo mo, but that does a poor job of selling the film because those sequences look so much more impressive in context rather than viewed on a tiny screen on the internet.

Being an armchair director, I would have made the 'rookie thrown in the deep end' aspect the main angle of the trailer - make the 'buddy cop' element the main selling point, which would have helped to deflect the Raid comparisons. I would have also used part of Dredd's opening monologue to set the scene, as it's so perfect and has some incredible imagery such as the spaghetti junction flyover and the city walls. I would have made the specifics of the plot more vague (such as not including whopping great spoilers like "Peach Trees is the manufacturing bas for all the slo mo in Mega City One" and Dredd throwing Ma Ma through the window).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 29 October, 2012, 02:15:56 PM
I agree with your comments about the spoilers, given that the interrogation in the film hinges on that discovery it was pretty thoughtless bunging it in the trailer. The window was a spoiler too, although the image was one of the most striking and 'Dredd' moments in the trailer.

If there was one thing in the trailer that may have put me off if my mind hadn't been made up already, it was the 'Judgement time!' line. It's the one line in the film I don't like, it doesn't make a lot of sense and sounds very, very cheesy when pulled out of context. That line is genuinely the only criticism I have of the whole film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 29 October, 2012, 02:27:37 PM
Just to clarify (we need an edit button so bad) I'm not a writer, and Alex Garland is a fantastic writer who did an incredible job, but to my ear something like the tagline "Judgement is coming" would have worked a treat at that moment.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 29 October, 2012, 03:05:24 PM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 29 October, 2012, 02:27:37 PM
Just to clarify (we need an edit button so bad) I'm not a writer, and Alex Garland is a fantastic writer who did an incredible job, but to my ear something like the tagline "Judgement is coming" would have worked a treat at that moment.

Or 'You have been Judged', something like that.  It was cheesy.  I quite liked it 'cos of the groans it got from the audience.   :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 October, 2012, 03:30:50 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 29 October, 2012, 01:00:49 PM
Quote from: Stan on 28 October, 2012, 11:31:32 PM
...she's a co-star more or less pushed as a drippy damsel in distress as far as the main trailer went.

I think we must have seen different trailers.  All I saw was her kicking seven kinds of arse.

There is that. She mostly appeared drippy at all other times though (to me anyway), when she clearly isn't. I mean they gave us [spoiler]Ma-Ma's swan dive[/spoiler] so a little more Anderson wouldn't have hurt.

Though I'm being picky really. I'm sure everyone has a few tweaks they'd make to the trailer, even if they enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 October, 2012, 04:15:22 PM
Are you looking forward to when the tech savvy lot have their shiny discs in Jan and we see a large amount of new trailers. I'm for one looking forward to the Goat Monster version ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 October, 2012, 07:37:35 PM

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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 29 October, 2012, 07:42:26 PM
 :o That's simply incredible and the original costume on that link is a good un too. :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 October, 2012, 07:45:09 PM
Well, I love the film, as it is brilliant film and one of best films in many years! And I am happy to be proud of the Dredd 3D film!

And it's still awesome film!

:D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 October, 2012, 07:47:27 PM
But what about the figure Goat Monster!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 October, 2012, 07:49:32 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 October, 2012, 07:47:27 PM
But what about the figure Goat Monster!

AND STILL NOT SEE IT!  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 29 October, 2012, 10:51:23 PM
Wowza! Some people just ooze talent, dont they. You could easily believe that was an offical figure.
Why cant 3A do summat like this? Or do they have summat like this planned?
That original costume version is pretty smart as well. Even though it has the ol' cod piece thang going on.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 29 October, 2012, 10:54:53 PM
All 585 pages of this thread have been worth it, just for that arsom doll.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 October, 2012, 11:03:35 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 October, 2012, 07:47:27 PM
But what about the figure Goat Monster!

Fuck! Where that come from??

I was away for days! Looks awesome! But safety to said that Helmet and Lawgiver are bit off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judda fett on 29 October, 2012, 11:12:32 PM
That figure is excellent. Eagle pads lovely.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 29 October, 2012, 11:19:27 PM
I would guess there just wasn't enough dosh in the budget to market the film heavily.

Other than outside Empire Leicester Square I only saw two posters in London.

I recall the posters on the tube for the Stallone version. They were pretty impressive. I don't buy the comment that no guns are allowed on film posters on the London Underground. Case in point the current Bond posters.

Some films lately have been advertised very heavily on buses. God knows how many times I saw buses with Looper ads. I remember seeing one pass and thinking I'll give that film a watch.

I'm sure if they could've afforded it they would have had the extra exposure of tube and bus adverts.

As for the trailers, I think the dialogue really jarred but came across fine in the actual movie. The "judgement time" line did make me wince but worked well in the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ming on 30 October, 2012, 10:09:11 AM
I don't think I've commented in this thread since I actually got to see the film (which was a bit on the late side due to the release date here in Norway).  Anyway, I loved it.  So many great touches and subtle nods to the fans, and it holds up well simply as an action film without too much baggage.

Strangely, one of my favourite things was the sound of the Lawmaster.  I can't recall getting such a visceral thrill out of engine noise since I first heard the last of the V8 Interceptors rumble into action.

:)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 30 October, 2012, 10:36:24 AM
QuoteSome films lately have been advertised very heavily on buses. God knows how many times I saw buses with Looper ads. I remember seeing one pass and thinking I'll give that film a watch.

Yep, no bus ads at all for Dredd.

That figure is bloody awesome.

Amazed it is a custom job.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 30 October, 2012, 01:27:34 PM
Quote from: radiator on 29 October, 2012, 01:48:43 PM
...

The music - La Roux's In for the Kill - was poorly chosen and inappropriate - that aspect alone put off people I know. The film's actual soundtrack is great and would have served the trailer far better.

...

Being an armchair director, I would have made the 'rookie thrown in the deep end' aspect the main angle of the trailer - make the 'buddy cop' element the main selling point, which would have helped to deflect the Raid comparisons. I would have also used part of Dredd's opening monologue to set the scene, as it's so perfect and has some incredible imagery such as the spaghetti junction flyover and the city walls. I would have made the specifics of the plot more vague (such as not including whopping great spoilers like "Peach Trees is the manufacturing bas for all the slo mo in Mega City One" and Dredd throwing Ma Ma through the window).

I totaly agree with this. I don't know how many, including myself, who got stunned by how Anderson stole the show with the evaluation bit. And how few jump cuts the movie had. The film felt really fresh doing without constant cutting!

And not to mention how the clunky cut fighting looked amazing in the film, simply no words for it how off it looks in the trailer compared to the film itself. A friend who almost didn't watch the film soley based on that came back from the cinema amazed beyond everything.

And I know some who saw the movie based on the OST.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 November, 2012, 09:16:47 AM
Anyone remember a film called Dredd 3D?





:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 05 November, 2012, 10:49:36 AM
Saw the film again, though there was hardly anybody else in the cinema with me at the time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dash Decent on 05 November, 2012, 11:25:33 AM
Quote from: pops1983 on 29 October, 2012, 10:54:53 PM
All 585 pages of this thread have been worth it, just for that arsom doll.

You mean 'action figure'.  We're all macho guys here*, we're not interested in dolls.  But I'd buy that action figure like a shot.


* except for ladies of course.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 05 November, 2012, 08:17:02 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 October, 2012, 07:37:35 PM

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Noice.  Though I hate to say it, it has Stallone's face  :-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 November, 2012, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 05 November, 2012, 08:17:02 PM
Noice.  Though I hate to say it, it has Stallone's face  :-\


Pot calls kettle black.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 05 November, 2012, 09:01:46 PM
Touché.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 05 November, 2012, 10:01:25 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 05 November, 2012, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 05 November, 2012, 08:17:02 PM
Noice.  Though I hate to say it, it has Stallone's face  :-\

Pot calls kettle black.

That doll has the plastic face of an ersatz Action Man, so I can see the point Jayzus was making.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 06 November, 2012, 01:09:47 AM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 29 October, 2012, 10:51:23 PM
Wowza! Some people just ooze talent, dont they. You could easily believe that was an offical figure.
Why cant 3A do summat like this? Or do they have summat like this planned?
That original costume version is pretty smart as well. Even though it has the ol' cod piece thang going on.

Ashley Wood (ThreeA bloke) actually said there was going to be a Dredd (and a Hammerstein) figure released before the end of the year - however, it'll have been based on the comic not the movie. I'm not holding my breath though as he does tend to talk cobblers a fair bit. I wonder if there would have been if the film was more of a success though?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 06 November, 2012, 06:00:07 PM
Well, if Ashley wont make 'em, perhaps that bloke who made the one in the photo's can make some more for the forum?  ;)

A Dredd figure Kick starter, anyone?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 06 November, 2012, 10:33:13 PM
I'd rather have one of those than Lego Dredd to be honest.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 November, 2012, 11:13:28 AM
"The good news for Lionsgate is that it knew the film would underperform and has minimal risk."

See, this is what annoys me about some studios. They initially assume this film will underperform, possibly because it's a lesser known hero and is following a poorly received initial adaptation, but do to no actual reasons. And rather than marketing the hell out of it and getting the audience interested in it, like what's done with other films, they decide to save money and just not promote it widely. So then when it actually does underperform, for whatever reason, they then say "at least we didn't lose all that money marketing it". When, in fact, the marketing could have saved it. They then put all the blame on the film and possibly the audience, even though they may be at fault for not getting the word out.
Read more at http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=67692#wv7LdPQrA5rPw2jp.99

This is a comment writen on the CBM website. It seems they [Lionsgate] knew DREDD  wasn't a well known product and decided not to promote it heavily. Figures. :-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 09 November, 2012, 11:43:51 AM
Well, they must have had some faith in it, otherwise they wouldn't have bought the rights in the first place. Rights which were apparently quite a hot ticket at Cannes, and which they paid out a fair bit for...

Perhaps these things happen due to internal politics and such? Project is shepherded by a few key people, but is sidelined when a new regime comes in? Apparently that's what happened with John Carter.

It's also wrong to say that Lionsgate did nothing to promote the film - they apparently spent some $25m on prints and advertising, which isn't a small amount. The problem seems to be that most of this went on sponsoring WWF wrestling events, which is a decision made by someone who (imo) doesn't understand the film and it's audience. Reminds me somewhat of the infamous 2000ad animated TV ad from the early 1990s that was only shown on channels like Sky Sports due to the ad agency buyer misunderstanding demographics and audience appeal ('we want to advertise to teen boys, and teen boys watch sports', never mind the fact that sporty kids tend not to read comics).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 November, 2012, 11:52:35 AM
WWF Wrestling and DREDD? Who linked them together?

I suppose grappling Olivia Thirby would be a delight to a lot of sports fans both male and female but it's more proof that they didn't really see DREDD as a winner and decided to cut their losses.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 09 November, 2012, 11:57:37 AM
WWF? Oh dear. Judging by the reaction it got, they'd have been better off purely playing to nostalgia (i.e. people who loved old-school action flicks) and women who want to see strong female leads—although I imagine the positive response from feminists was perhaps a surprise to those involved with the marketing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 09 November, 2012, 12:00:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z72iBs-f-c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z72iBs-f-c)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 09 November, 2012, 12:48:27 PM
Quote from: radiator on 09 November, 2012, 12:00:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z72iBs-f-c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z72iBs-f-c)

Jeez what a mess -tells you nothing. Awful
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 09 November, 2012, 12:54:00 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 09 November, 2012, 12:48:27 PM
Quote from: radiator on 09 November, 2012, 12:00:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z72iBs-f-c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z72iBs-f-c)

Jeez what a mess -tells you nothing. Awful

Um... It's a 20 second TV spot introduced by someone I have never heard of, but with a magnificent name. I'm wondering just what information you expect to be communicated in this sort of ad?
Bearing in mind that everyone on here was pissing their pants with excitement every time they saw said trailer at the time, I'm finding this current round of blame highly amusing.
Now it's the fault of wrestling that this movie did not make enough money?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 09 November, 2012, 01:33:23 PM
No, I'm just arguing against the popular consensus that Lionsgate did 'nothing' to promote Dredd, while conceding that perhaps they spent the money advertising to the wrong demographic.

FWIW I had serious concerns about the trailer even at the time.

Of course people are confused and a little upset as to why Dredd fared so badly at the box office, and are positing why this might be. Don't know why you get so bent out of shape about it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 09 November, 2012, 01:39:46 PM
I'm not bent out if shape, I find it hilarious that reasons are anything from "blame the wrestlers" to "it's an art house movie".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mikey on 09 November, 2012, 02:17:22 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 09 November, 2012, 01:39:46 PM
"blame the wrestlers"

I'm having that. If something doesn't work how I think it should, it shall be henceforth blamed upon The Wrestlers. They better keep their not insubstantial hands off my next diy endeavour, I can tell you.

M.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 November, 2012, 02:24:45 PM
Really I never comments on about box-office, or people says it's failed,

we did got really a great film, and that people been see it more than once, and I am happy with this film.

WE LOVE DREDD 3D!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 November, 2012, 02:26:21 PM
Yep.

There's the DVD Blu Ray sales to come. If there good enough  DREDD might have the chance for a 2nd outing. Maybe...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 09 November, 2012, 05:32:03 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 09 November, 2012, 01:39:46 PM
I'm not bent out if shape, I find it hilarious that reasons are anything from "blame the wrestlers" to "it's an art house movie".

I blame Thatcher!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 09 November, 2012, 05:39:31 PM
Many great films fail at the box office, but few films as highly-reviewed and well-loved as Dredd fail so miserably. It's only natural that people are trying to understand the contributing factors why.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 November, 2012, 06:53:00 PM
Dredd got message for you,

(http://i.imgur.com/Tu5Ub.jpg)

Enjoy the film, creep!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 10 November, 2012, 12:36:58 AM
cool your always getting the new pictures .
must admit i wiSh he had said CREEP  in the movie
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 10 November, 2012, 09:32:55 AM
Hopefully when the bluray/dvd is released tributes with the DREDD ost will flood youtube. Or the intro to it.

Just something to give an idea how good the film really looks and goes with the soundtrack. Or that it's Judge Andersons story, and that it'll make you want to stand up and clap when the end hits ;)

Instead of shoehorning it into La Roux - In for the Kill with jump cuts and pissing people off realising they showed Ma-Ma getting killed in the trailer :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 10 November, 2012, 09:45:27 AM
I imagine something similar to these two trailers to 300 and Sin city. Violence and voice overs. Two movies who in my opinion are even more video game-ish and should have been harder to sell than Dredd, but still made a mint.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rwPmJP2GcQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDiUG52ZyHQ
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 10 November, 2012, 04:11:08 PM
Like the beginning of this feature!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93QpkAA_6SU

Hard hitting and heavy as hell. Makes me wanna see the movie here and now!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve DGenerate on 10 November, 2012, 06:56:10 PM
'Dredd' is one of those movies that won't be as appreciated on release, as it will when it gains the cult status it deserves (Blade Runner for instance), and those that put their posteriors on cinema seats to experience this magnificent, visceral, uncompromising beast of a film should be glad that they made the effort.

It's not very often I've come out of a cinema with the feeling that I've seen something truly original and ground breaking on the silver screen, but 'Dredd' hit all the right buttons.
Best film I've seen all year, bar none.





 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 November, 2012, 07:05:59 PM
I'm a bit worried about the release date in January. I fear the Goat Monster will edit this into a 90 minute version that keeps showing his appearances over and over and just before the credits it'll end with Dredd saying Yeah!  ;)

You lot may laugh but deep down you know it's coming :o :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 November, 2012, 07:19:30 PM
No worries CF, I leave it alone as it awesome full uncut film!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 November, 2012, 07:23:52 PM
Is that a promise. You can do your directors cut for the following Christmas ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 November, 2012, 08:04:36 PM
Maybe a little cut, of News Feed if you nice to me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MercZ on 11 November, 2012, 12:59:25 AM
Dredd maybe one of the movies I'll buy early when it comes out to DVD/Blu ray. I feel the need to support the movie, hopefully I won't be the only one. If it gets that cult status/rep it would go a long way to make sure it isn't just another one of the movies that get forgotten after it is released. Or godforbid end up in the bargin bin beneath copies of trashy movies.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 November, 2012, 02:27:22 AM
Ton of DREDD film clips on youtube...all in German:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlLX4sQFZ6w&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afYvS5nOPm8&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBJd_9eEcR0&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8HL9WEztOA&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AanjRprL46c&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGtz344Rk-k&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duWCos-uepM&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4MYaq9KMdw&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 November, 2012, 03:16:15 AM


(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbol44wyyR1rtk4rzo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 November, 2012, 03:16:45 AM
Love the green visor!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 11 November, 2012, 11:10:56 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 November, 2012, 02:27:22 AM
Ton of DREDD film clips on youtube...all in German: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8HL9WEztOA&feature=plcp

Cheers, SOAP. Dredd just sounds recht auf Deutsch.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 11 November, 2012, 11:33:50 AM
Fantastische!  Thanks Joe, there goes my morning.  I think I actually prefer it in German!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 November, 2012, 11:45:47 AM
Still mega in any language. That said I always said to myself learn German or French or Spanish but of course I never did and I properly never will. Ah slob regrets.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 11 November, 2012, 12:40:42 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 November, 2012, 02:27:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afYvS5nOPm8&feature=plcp

Ahh, great to see these clips. And Dredd does indeed sound great in German.
Loved seeing that clip ive quoted from you Joe, those couple of seconds of Dredd stomping towards the crashed van are one of the stand out moments (amongst many) for me.

(http://i.imgur.com/SIPbp.jpg)

Roll on the Blu-ray!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 11 November, 2012, 12:59:39 PM
Double post!
Having now watched them all, i wonder if anybody has the skills to edit them all together?  ;)

Slightly strange to see all these clips though.
Wasnt Germany one of the later places to get a Dredd release?
Seems a bit quick off the mark releasing all  these clips for that audience.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 11 November, 2012, 01:10:16 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 11 November, 2012, 12:59:39 PM
Slightly strange to see all these clips though. Wasnt Germany one of the later places to get a Dredd release? Seems a bit quick off the mark releasing all  these clips for that audience.

The film's released in Deutschland in a fortnight, and almost all of that's been available online for months now. Given the stench of financial failure which preceeds the film wherever it goes, I don't think it's too mad a gamble to let folk see some of it, and maybe realise that it's not the worthless peice of shite the US box office would suggest it is. It can't hurt anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 11 November, 2012, 01:30:03 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 11 November, 2012, 01:10:16 PM
The film's released in Deutschland in a fortnight

Oh right, i'd for some reason thought Dredd had a mid/late October release in Germany.
Its hard to keep track of who's seen it and who hasnt.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 11 November, 2012, 03:59:50 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 11 November, 2012, 01:30:03 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 11 November, 2012, 01:10:16 PM
The film's released in Deutschland in a fortnight

Oh right, i'd for some reason thought Dredd had a mid/late October release in Germany. Its hard to keep track of who's seen it and who hasnt.

Actually, scratch that, Jack; I'm talking out my hole. Dredd's opening in The Fatherland this Thursday (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/releaseinfo). Like you say, the staggered release is hard to keep track of.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 11 November, 2012, 05:50:42 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 09 November, 2012, 12:54:00 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 09 November, 2012, 12:48:27 PM
Quote from: radiator on 09 November, 2012, 12:00:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z72iBs-f-c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z72iBs-f-c)

Jeez what a mess -tells you nothing. Awful

Um... It's a 20 second TV spot introduced by someone I have never heard of, but with a magnificent name. I'm wondering just what information you expect to be communicated in this sort of ad?
Bearing in mind that everyone on here was pissing their pants with excitement every time they saw said trailer at the time, I'm finding this current round of blame highly amusing.
Now it's the fault of wrestling that this movie did not make enough money?

You do seem to be making a deliberate effort to mis-interpret what people say.The first advert was well recieved the follow-ups like these less so.

Many TV ad communicate far more effectively what they are about in the same time frame, or less.That just made Dredd look like a mindless shoot-em-up. Dredd clearly didn't gets it's message across the public of what it was about nor it's quality.Choosing ridiculous spots to place their TV Ad's just shows another example of their incompetant marketing campaign.I think Radiator mentions this and compare it with the poor TV slots chosen to advertise 2000AD way back and how that was wasted.These choices do obviously have a big effect.

You can spend millions on advertising but if it is poorly targeted then it is wasted.You're getting the same message over and over -blame it on the marketeers.

This 'current round' as you put it,started a year before the films release with some, including me ,saying more material should be released, internet site set up, the movie needed hyping up more and showing it was demonstatively different from the previous 95 mess.You countered that whoever is in charge 'know what they are doing' ' ---clearly NOT.

As many have posted outside of this site ,the marketing (not including cast members, who were excellent) was POOR.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 11 November, 2012, 06:13:51 PM
Love it! Sounds great in german, and I get to relive some bits of the film till blueray hits :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 November, 2012, 12:11:25 AM
Gotta love that opening. The German was cool too. Thanks Joe!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 November, 2012, 05:10:57 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 11 November, 2012, 12:40:42 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 November, 2012, 02:27:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afYvS5nOPm8&feature=plcp

Ahh, great to see these clips. And Dredd does indeed sound great in German.
Loved seeing that clip ive quoted from you Joe, those couple of seconds of Dredd stomping towards the crashed van are one of the stand out moments (amongst many) for me.

(http://i.imgur.com/SIPbp.jpg)

Roll on the Blu-ray!


Yeah that opening scene is a blinder!

Come on Germany! Go see Dredd and add some much deserved box office!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 12 November, 2012, 05:36:48 PM
It's showing in my local art house cinema tonight, so I'm off to see it again!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 November, 2012, 05:48:24 PM
[ :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :wave: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:quote author=Richmond Clements link=topic=34200.msg725510#msg725510 date=1352741808]
It's showing in my local art house cinema tonight, so I'm off to see it again!
[/quote]

Arsom!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 12 November, 2012, 05:56:59 PM
Hi guys'  I stay in  Edinburgh/Scotland. I went to see Dredd 3d a few times (8).   GREAT to see all these new clips  coming out , EVEN though there in German, DREDD sounds  GREAT ..... I'M really looking forward to getting the DVD in JAN , long wait though :o  ..... but that still wont be enough for me

WHAT ID REALLY LIKE TO SEE is Dredd 3D back in the CINEMA for another  1  SPECIAL VIEWING   could this happen ???     
if  many people fans got together and asked for another showing !! do cinemas do this ? could we start a fan campaign 
please say yes
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 November, 2012, 06:07:41 PM
The best way to do this is over a convention weekend, at a cinema close to the convention!
I'll leave the rest to you ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 12 November, 2012, 11:19:42 PM
So, watched it in the cinema again this evening.
By grud, this is a good movie. I'd forgotten how much I liked it.
Blah blah blah, Urban's good etc. But really the bottom line is that it's a great action movie. Not an art house movie. An action movie.
But, things I spotted this time: two Goaties, Grant Block and Tome Frame Block.
Best bit: the guy behind me and to the right almost curling up in a ball as we got to the bit where [spoiler]Mama hits the floor.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 November, 2012, 11:31:45 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 12 November, 2012, 11:19:42 PM
But, things I spotted this time: two Goaties


(http://imageshack.us/a/img812/7130/goatygrab.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 November, 2012, 11:34:32 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 November, 2012, 11:31:45 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 12 November, 2012, 11:19:42 PM
But, things I spotted this time: two Goaties


(http://imageshack.us/a/img812/7130/goatygrab.png)

Awesome! Where you get that?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 November, 2012, 11:36:22 PM
Oh my... It's image of my avatar!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 November, 2012, 11:40:21 PM

at 1:01,

http://vimeo.com/52383864
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 November, 2012, 11:46:09 PM
Awesome, thanks Mr Soap.
Can't believe they did it in my avatar!
(http://i.imgur.com/xptll.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 November, 2012, 12:17:49 AM
Took my dad to see it tonight, probably the last week it's showing, and he couldn't understand why it didn't do well.. Commenting on the good cast, asking about how they did bits etc.. Stayed until our names went by, laughed at the right bits, asking about what MC1 is all about.. Was very cool, and glad he could come (despite my having to practically drag him there..)  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 13 November, 2012, 12:08:03 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 November, 2012, 12:17:49 AM
Took my dad to see it tonight, probably the last week it's showing, and he couldn't understand why it didn't do well.. Commenting on the good cast, asking about how they did bits etc.. Stayed until our names went by, laughed at the right bits, asking about what MC1 is all about.. Was very cool, and glad he could come (despite my having to practically drag him there..)  :D

Glad you got your Dad to see it.  Mine had a great interest in seeing it, but his eyesight can't cope with 3D, and he couldn't find a 2D showing in Cheltenham. 

It's a shame, 'cos he took a real interest in everything I read as a child, including 2000AD, so almost grew up with Dredd alongside me.  Being a historian of America, he was particularly interested in the 'America of the Future' vibe, and although he considered many stories in 2000AD as frivolous entertainment, he quite liked the 'Democracy Now' stuff and of course 'America'.  I really think he would have enjoyed the film a great deal, and I'm a bit gutted he couldn't get to a 2D showing to see it.

Ah well, I'll be buying him the DVD when it's released anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 13 November, 2012, 06:11:35 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 12 November, 2012, 11:19:42 PM
But, things I spotted this time: two Goaties

Wasnt there three in total?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MattJW on 13 November, 2012, 10:40:50 PM
Which cinemas in the UK are still showing it then?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 November, 2012, 11:05:55 PM
Quote from: MattJW on 13 November, 2012, 10:40:50 PM
Which cinemas in the UK are still showing it then?!

No idea.. Was in Amsterdam..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 November, 2012, 02:25:35 PM
http://www.3dartistonline.com/news/2012/11/vfx-on-a-budget-the-cost-of-complexity/

Here's a an article I saw in while browsing the Newsagent.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 14 November, 2012, 06:41:49 PM
Has anyone been following the new Arnie film "The Last Stand"'s facebook page? Lionsgate are doing the promotion to that too, and the process seems exactly the same to Dredd. It's really strange they seem to think they have this cut and paste formula that they can use on everything, instead of trying different things for different films.

(This is in regards to the recent talk of the promotion btw)

I am currently screening 'Silent Hill: Revelations 3D' at my cinema, and to be honest, I think a lot of people would have seen Dredd as one of those kind of films. Low budget, quick fix action with bad acting. Like the Resident Evil films as well. That's the way it looks to have been sold anyway.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 16 November, 2012, 01:05:12 AM
http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-list-of-the-years-biggest-flops-is-here-and-it,88801/ (http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-list-of-the-years-biggest-flops-is-here-and-it,88801/)

Dredd is the third biggest flop of the year. Ouch.

Funny that after the media free-for-all done on John Carter that it's not even in the top ten. The way some folk went after that film, you'd think there was some personal vendetta against the studio/filmmakers.

By the way that list is calculated by box office relative to budget, as opposed to single biggest loss of money (for obvious reasons!)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 16 November, 2012, 01:20:58 AM
Pretty sure Dredd took more than $28m, but still... Ouch.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 16 November, 2012, 04:50:57 AM
Quote from: radiator on 16 November, 2012, 01:20:58 AM
Pretty sure Dredd took more than $28m, but still... Ouch.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dredd.htm (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dredd.htm)

28.5 million, according to BOM. There's a lot of love for Dredd in the comments though. It probably will do quite well once its released on DVD/Blu-Ray etc.

Just looking at that site: Dredd had a budget of $50 million and Looper's was $30 million yet the latter film had two big name actors (and two decent sized names for supporting roles) as well as a really cool, futuristic looking city. There's quite a disproportionate difference in budget between those two films yet the one with the smaller budget and star salaries looked a lot more...well, more.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 16 November, 2012, 08:16:22 AM
Both Bruce Willis and JGL are MASSIVE box office draws, replace them with two lesser known actors and I bet Looper wouldn't have done half as well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 16 November, 2012, 10:31:28 AM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 16 November, 2012, 04:50:57 AM
as well as a really cool, futuristic looking city.

Didnt Dredd have that?  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 16 November, 2012, 12:21:26 PM
It is a very disappointing result.  I really feel for Alex and everyone else involved in the production. 

Well, I'm going to continue to do my part.  I'll be buying both the DVD and Blu-Ray for myself on release (DVD to watch, Blu-Ray for when I eventually get a 3D telly), and I'll also be getting it as a late Xmas prezzie for some of my friends and family members.

I hope you're all going to do the same.  We may not have collectively been able to make it a commercial success at the box office, but we can damn well try and help it be a commerical success and cult classic on DVD and Blu-Ray! 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 November, 2012, 12:39:15 PM
Yeah it really is a shame, the most frustrating part being it's so damn arsom. I haven't bought a DVD in ages but I will be getting Dredd. And I will try make as many people watch it as possible, even if I have to tie them to a chair and cello-tape their eyes open.

I am pretty sure this already counts as a cult classic as it has a small but dedicated following?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 16 November, 2012, 01:02:26 PM
Likewise- I saw the opening part in German in one of the Youtube links posted earlier, just looked and sounded amazing, actually even better than I remembered !

You dont make a cult classic, a film becomes one, so hopefully DVD sales will reflect the popularity the film deserves.

Currently, there is a HUGE community of people going to two of the main US Comic Cons next year dressed as Judges- the fan base looks to be becoming well established already.....

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 November, 2012, 01:18:53 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 16 November, 2012, 04:50:57 AM
Quote from: radiator on 16 November, 2012, 01:20:58 AM
Pretty sure Dredd took more than $28m, but still... Ouch.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dredd.htm (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dredd.htm)

28.5 million, according to BOM. There's a lot of love for Dredd in the comments though. It probably will do quite well once its released on DVD/Blu-Ray etc.




It's over $36 million since a few weeks ago:

http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/dredd-2012?q=dredd
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 November, 2012, 01:35:51 PM
Comparing Looper and Dredd, bear in mind that 3D took a sizeable chunk of what was available to spend on other things.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 16 November, 2012, 02:12:12 PM
QuoteIt's over $36 million since a few weeks ago

That's what I thought.

Also still to open in a few territories, isn't it?

Also on the 'half glass full' side of things, the fact that it's already being lined up for a special event showing at the Prince Charles indicates cult status.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 November, 2012, 02:46:51 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 16 November, 2012, 04:50:57 AM
Just looking at that site: Dredd had a budget of $50 million and Looper's was $30 million yet the latter film had two big name actors (and two decent sized names for supporting roles) as well as a really cool, futuristic looking city. There's quite a disproportionate difference in budget between those two films yet the one with the smaller budget and star salaries looked a lot more...well, more.

Looper's total budget was around $60 million (marketing included). Alex Garland confirmed after the screening in London that the actual production budget for Dredd was $35 million. It was later rumoured that $20-25 million was spent on marketing which would make it around $55-60 million in total.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 November, 2012, 02:49:10 PM
Quote from: radiator on 16 November, 2012, 02:12:12 PM
Also still to open in a few territories, isn't it?


It opened in Germany and Switzerland yesterday. Belgium, Hungary and Japan still awaiting release.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 16 November, 2012, 04:34:21 PM
yeah  Joe was wondering about that Worldwide Gross: $36,097,247 .. DREDD has  been at that total since Nov 01, 2012   :-*     . I'm personally hoping that it  is nearer  the  $40,000,000 total now if not more . Think we will be surprised how well it does down under in Karl's home turf
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 16 November, 2012, 06:24:56 PM
DREDD 2-Is the featured film this month in SFX's (issue #229) Wishlist double-pager.

You've got to love the guys at SFX, they are the gift that keeps on giving.. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 16 November, 2012, 06:33:09 PM
I should post what it says.Same cast for Dredd and Anderson.

Top Five Reader requests
1# Keep it 18
2#More Judges
3#More of the Cursed Earth
4#2D
5#More Mega-City One

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 16 November, 2012, 06:39:37 PM
I see I get name-checked twice in Sfx regarding Dredd which is nice!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 16 November, 2012, 06:44:05 PM
Quote from: junox on 16 November, 2012, 04:34:21 PM
yeah  Joe was wondering about that Worldwide Gross: $36,097,247 .. DREDD has  been at that total since Nov 01, 2012   :-*     . I'm personally hoping that it  is nearer  the  $40,000,000 total now if not more . Think we will be surprised how well it does down under in Karl's home turf

Slowly, oh so very slowly, but surely its edging upwards.

Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 16 November, 2012, 06:33:09 PM
I should post what it says.Same cast for Dredd and Anderson.

Top Five Reader requests
1# Keep it 18
2#More Judges
3#More of the Cursed Earth
4#2D
5#More Mega-City One


Cant argue with any of that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 16 November, 2012, 06:53:02 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 16 November, 2012, 08:16:22 AM
Both Bruce Willis and JGL are MASSIVE box office draws, replace them with two lesser known actors and I bet Looper wouldn't have done half as well.

QuoteLooper's total budget was around $60 million (marketing included). Alex Garland confirmed after the screening in London that the actual production budget for Dredd was $35 million. It was later rumoured that $20-25 million was spent on marketing which would make it around $55-60 million in total.

I'm not talking about box office results. Or marketing budgets. I'm talking about what each film managed with their respective production budgets and how - since Looper had to factor in a number of presumably more expensive actors - it still managed to create a more futuristic looking city than Dredd, which apparently had a higher production budget than Looper.

I remember a lot of the reviews said Dredd looked like it was shot with a small budget; yet I didn't hear anyone say the same about Looper, which was shot for less. I think more Mega-City One would have helped (the city is pretty important to the character as a whole, no?) I guess I'm mainly wondering just how much of Dredd's budget was blown on 3D?  :-X
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 November, 2012, 07:03:12 PM
I seem to remember a figure of 15 million (not sure if that was $ or £) being mentioned as the cost of 3D.

There's a breakdown of costs here, I've no idea how accurate this is

http://the3d.co/2012/02/15/native-3d-versus-2d-to-3d-conversion-pros-and-cons/ (http://the3d.co/2012/02/15/native-3d-versus-2d-to-3d-conversion-pros-and-cons/)

(stereo conversion adding 5-10%, native stereo 30-50%), but Dredd had some shots post converted, so unless someone from the production has stated what it was, it's a pretty wide range to pick from.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 16 November, 2012, 07:29:40 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 16 November, 2012, 06:53:02 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 16 November, 2012, 08:16:22 AM
Both Bruce Willis and JGL are MASSIVE box office draws, replace them with two lesser known actors and I bet Looper wouldn't have done half as well.

QuoteLooper's total budget was around $60 million (marketing included). Alex Garland confirmed after the screening in London that the actual production budget for Dredd was $35 million. It was later rumoured that $20-25 million was spent on marketing which would make it around $55-60 million in total.

I'm not talking about box office results. Or marketing budgets. I'm talking about what each film managed with their respective production budgets and how - since Looper had to factor in a number of presumably more expensive actors - it still managed to create a more futuristic looking city than Dredd, which apparently had a higher production budget than Looper.

I remember a lot of the reviews said Dredd looked like it was shot with a small budget; yet I didn't hear anyone say the same about Looper, which was shot for less. I think more Mega-City One would have helped (the city is pretty important to the character as a whole, no?) I guess I'm mainly wondering just how much of Dredd's budget was blown on 3D?  :-X


Looper looked more futuristic looking than Dredd?
I think that's debatable. I thought Looper looked pretty shoddy. Considering most of it was shot in a corn field, that was no mean feat!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 November, 2012, 07:31:43 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 16 November, 2012, 06:53:02 PM
I'm not talking about box office results. Or marketing budgets. I'm talking about what each film managed with their respective production budgets and how - since Looper had to factor in a number of presumably more expensive actors - it still managed to create a more futuristic looking city than Dredd, which apparently had a higher production budget than Looper.

If you read my last post you will see Dredd only had $5 million more than Looper in its production budget of $35 million, without marketing. We could presume that a large part of that $5 million paid for the 3D gear and FX so each film had relatively the same budget.

To me the futuristic city-scapes of Looper don't look anymore impressive than Dredd but they are less distinctive and Dredd had a very large interior set and many practical FX.

As for actor's fees, we don't now what they were or whether they took a cut from their usual to be in the film, which they probably did.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 November, 2012, 08:05:12 PM
I wouldn't say Looper had a better future look, I found it quite easy to forget it was set in the future at all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 17 November, 2012, 02:06:01 AM
just found this on facebook still to check it out
If anybody missed it, Dredd 3D is back on for a week at London's Odeon Panton Street:

http://www.odeon.co.uk/fanatic/film_times/s117/Panton_St/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 17 November, 2012, 08:17:15 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 November, 2012, 08:05:12 PM
I wouldn't say Looper had a better future look, I found it quite easy to forget it was set in the future at all.

Most of it was set in a field, wasn't it?

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 17 November, 2012, 09:49:41 AM
Most of it was rubbish.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 17 November, 2012, 10:00:01 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 17 November, 2012, 09:49:41 AM
Most of it was rubbish.

Well, yes, but I went through that on the Looper thread, so I didn't see the point in going over it again!

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 November, 2012, 04:34:49 PM
I do really want to see Dredd 3D again!

Don't know why I kept enjoyable see it as it's my 4th views!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 November, 2012, 04:38:12 PM
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x353/Armand32b/kindle92.jpg)

(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x353/Armand32b/kindle95.jpg)

(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x353/Armand32b/kindle96.jpg)

(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x353/Armand32b/kindle97.jpg)

(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x353/Armand32b/kindle98.jpg)

(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x353/Armand32b/kindle99.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 November, 2012, 04:43:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Hew4W.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 19 November, 2012, 05:02:02 PM
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x353/Armand32b/kindle99.jpg)

A caption contest photo if ever there was..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cookyman on 19 November, 2012, 05:13:16 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 19 November, 2012, 05:02:02 PM
A caption contest photo if ever there was..

Dredd XXX edition!  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 19 November, 2012, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 19 November, 2012, 04:38:12 PM
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x353/Armand32b/kindle92.jpg)

That's looks a bit like my bedroom scene after hitting my head on the chest of drawers while drunk.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 19 November, 2012, 06:35:24 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 19 November, 2012, 04:34:49 PM
I do really want to see Dredd 3D again!

Don't know why I kept enjoyable see it as it's my 4th views!

Same here!  'Mini Guns' came up on iPod shuffle this morning, and I immediately thought 'Can't wait to see the film again!!'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 19 November, 2012, 08:13:59 PM
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x353/Armand32b/kindle95.jpg)

I know she's got a blade down there, but that image suggests something else. Also, Headey looks totally different in that pic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 November, 2012, 09:37:49 AM
Total Film got new feature about 50 Craziest Movie Cops, guess who at 23?

(http://i.imgur.com/aOgtM.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 November, 2012, 10:49:12 AM
Looks like they misinterpreted that scene then. [spoiler]My reading of it wasn't that Dredd called her bluff, but that he realised the signal wouldn't reach the top of the block from the bottom, possibly through layers of concrete. He then ensured she'd not be able to trigger anything on the way down by having her take the drug, thereby making her totally high.[/spoiler] Or maybe I'm reading too much into it and Dredd really was winging it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 November, 2012, 01:14:28 PM
"Punk"
(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff418/karlurbaninternational/Dredd_3D.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 20 November, 2012, 01:23:55 PM
Bit of a duff device, that heartbeat detector anyway.  Surely if the signal was cut off, and no heartbeat could be detected, the devices would detonate anyway?  Signal = heartbeat, no signal = no heartbeat and KABLOOIE!

Safest thing would have been to stun her, and keep her contained while Tech judges come in to disarm devices.  Hell of a risk he took there, hoping a blocked signal would not be interpreted by the devices as no heartbeat, if you ask me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 November, 2012, 01:27:28 PM
And I like the idea that Dredd do it without pause for thought, as many of actions in comic. He maybe know it won't work but he did "Yeah" at end. That's the Dredd!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 20 November, 2012, 03:24:16 PM
Doesn't really make sense at all if I'm honest, her falling out of range is no different to walking out of range under arrest. There was no concrete or anything 'blocking the signal' as she fell straight down the empty shaft and she broke the only thing in the way (the window) on the way out!

As shoalin_monkey said, would have been best to stun her or even just leave her there until adequate support could arrive.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 20 November, 2012, 03:50:30 PM
That's would've been interesting. Maybe he could've given her a little lecture like 'Bad language makes for bad feelings!'. Then the credits could've rolled over them disembarking down the stairs for 20 minutes. :cool:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 20 November, 2012, 06:14:49 PM
Perhaps the device worked in a way that the receiver still had to detect the transmitter as active once the heartbeat monitor started. Walking out of range simply just meant that the signal couldn't transmit the fact that the heartbeat had stopped. It's logical when you think of it that way. It's just a MacGuffin. The fact that Dredd was so held to his duty is what matters. The whole speech that Ma-Ma gives, saying how if she dies the whole block goes and does he know how many people live in the block etc. Dredd just says "This isn't a negotiation. The sentence is death!" You know right then and there what he's all about.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 20 November, 2012, 06:17:56 PM
Yeah, I was nitpicking really.  I wouldn't change a single thing in the film!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 November, 2012, 07:11:00 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 20 November, 2012, 06:17:56 PM
I wouldn't change a single thing in the film!

Drokking yeah!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 20 November, 2012, 08:16:35 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 19 November, 2012, 04:43:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Hew4W.jpg)

I gotta say it, Lex looked the best out of all the Judges including Dredd. The helmet is perfect on him.

My initial thinking regarding the heartbeat device was the same as TF, I just figured she was bluffing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 20 November, 2012, 10:31:53 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 19 November, 2012, 08:13:59 PM
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x353/Armand32b/kindle95.jpg)

I know she's got a blade down there, but that image suggests something else. Also, Headey looks totally different in that pic.

I'v never seen Ma-Ma looking that charming before. Great pic:)!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 21 November, 2012, 11:37:38 PM
 SciFiNow have chosen their top five films of the year. Guess who's at number one... that's right, DREDD.

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 22 November, 2012, 09:18:29 AM
Quote from: SKD on 21 November, 2012, 11:37:38 PM
SciFiNow have chosen their top five films of the year. Guess who's at number one... that's right, DREDD.

Stew.

Picked this up in Smth's yesterday.
Good choice guys! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cursed Earth Dweller on 22 November, 2012, 10:27:43 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 20 November, 2012, 01:23:55 PMSafest thing would have been to stun her, and keep her contained while Tech judges come in to disarm devices.

That would have made a rather boring climax don't you think?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 November, 2012, 01:13:43 PM
Good effect!

(http://i.imgur.com/V3oHg.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ot9Gy.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 22 November, 2012, 01:43:33 PM
Do you think someone is trying to sneak on set, hiding in the bag that guy is carrying on the right ?

;-)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 22 November, 2012, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: Cursed Earth Dweller on 22 November, 2012, 10:27:43 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 20 November, 2012, 01:23:55 PMSafest thing would have been to stun her, and keep her contained while Tech judges come in to disarm devices.

That would have made a rather boring climax don't you think?

Like I said earlier, I was nitpicking.  I wouldn't change the film at all. 

That said, I am getting a bit bored of baddies falling to their death:
ROTJ - the Emperor falls down a shaft
Die Hard - Hans Gruber thrown of a building
Tim Burton Batman - Joker goes over the edge
Judge Dredd - Rico thrown of Statue of Liberty
Cliffhanger - Lithgow out of a helicopter (I think)
Goldeneye - Alec Trevelian, off a satelitte dish

Pretty much every Disney film


On the plus side, at least Ma-Ma's fall was one of the most beautiful out of all the examples above.   ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 November, 2012, 02:47:35 PM
Good point, Shaolin Monkey, but those many falling to their death don't got us to view the hit the ground...

Well Goldeneye - Alec Trevelian, not height enough, then to be killed by fallen satellite dish!

And to witness Dredd threw her through the window was so beautiful!



I like Caleb's fate as well. that was mad and perfect scene of many films in long time!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 November, 2012, 04:05:58 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 22 November, 2012, 01:43:33 PM
Do you think someone is trying to sneak on set, hiding in the bag that guy is carrying on the right ?

;-)

Haha!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 22 November, 2012, 04:34:53 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 November, 2012, 04:05:58 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 22 November, 2012, 01:43:33 PM
Do you think someone is trying to sneak on set, hiding in the bag that guy is carrying on the right ?

thought there was  no robot's in the movie   !!!! Robot  suitcase
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 22 November, 2012, 04:48:17 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 22 November, 2012, 01:13:43 PM
Good effect!
(http://i.imgur.com/V3oHg.jpg)

You seem to have access to an inexhaustible supply of top Dredd images, Goaty.
Good stuff, btw.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 November, 2012, 04:52:27 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 22 November, 2012, 04:48:17 PM
You seem to have access to an inexhaustible supply of top Dredd images, Goaty.
Good stuff, btw.

Aw thanks, it was Karl Urban fan website, I check it when I am on coffee break...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cursed Earth Dweller on 22 November, 2012, 06:20:07 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 22 November, 2012, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: Cursed Earth Dweller on 22 November, 2012, 10:27:43 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 20 November, 2012, 01:23:55 PMSafest thing would have been to stun her, and keep her contained while Tech judges come in to disarm devices.

That would have made a rather boring climax don't you think?

Like I said earlier, I was nitpicking.  I wouldn't change the film at all. 

That said, I am getting a bit bored of baddies falling to their death:
ROTJ - the Emperor falls down a shaft
Die Hard - Hans Gruber thrown of a building
Tim Burton Batman - Joker goes over the edge
Judge Dredd - Rico thrown of Statue of Liberty
Cliffhanger - Lithgow out of a helicopter (I think)
Goldeneye - Alec Trevelian, off a satelitte dish

Pretty much every Disney film


On the plus side, at least Ma-Ma's fall was one of the most beautiful out of all the examples above.   ;)

Not counting the Dizney films that's only 7 films in the last 30 years or so, you have to admit that's not too bad. And yes, Ma-Ma's plunge was indeed mesmerizing and creative.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 22 November, 2012, 06:35:34 PM
Quote from: Cursed Earth Dweller on 22 November, 2012, 06:20:07 PM
Not counting the Dizney films that's only 7 films in the last 30 years or so, you have to admit that's not too bad. And yes, Ma-Ma's plunge was indeed mesmerizing and creative.

I bet there's loads more!  Those seven were just the ones I could think of off the top of my head! 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 November, 2012, 02:15:03 PM
It's out in Korea.

Nice trailer on the site, hope more people will like it there!

http://www.dredd3d.co.kr/index.htm (http://www.dredd3d.co.kr/index.htm)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 25 November, 2012, 04:56:29 PM
GOATY just watch that video link  awsome  picture quality ....
think the BLURAY is going to be out of this world
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cursed Earth Dweller on 25 November, 2012, 05:17:58 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 22 November, 2012, 06:35:34 PM
Quote from: Cursed Earth Dweller on 22 November, 2012, 06:20:07 PM
Not counting the Dizney films that's only 7 films in the last 30 years or so, you have to admit that's not too bad. And yes, Ma-Ma's plunge was indeed mesmerizing and creative.

I bet there's loads more!  Those seven were just the ones I could think of off the top of my head!

Well, you also forgot Rico's(or some resemblance of him) plunge in the abominable stallone film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 25 November, 2012, 06:34:40 PM
Those crazy Koreans: http://www.dredd3d.co.kr (http://www.dredd3d.co.kr)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 26 November, 2012, 06:15:06 PM
Not sure if you gents have seen this,a poll for favorite comic book film  2012

Dredd is in it and in 4th place


http://www.superherohype.com/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 26 November, 2012, 07:48:54 PM
Second best film of the year after the Avengers it was!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 27 November, 2012, 01:19:52 AM
Quote from: dracula1 on 26 November, 2012, 07:48:54 PM
Second best film of the year after the Avengers it was!

It was the best for me, hands down.  Avengers was good, but didn't really excite me like it did everyone else.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 03:46:31 AM
It's a fairly silly and lopsided vote too. Of course I'll be biased, but the fact that Spiderman is above it renders the poll somewhat void for me. OK, then there's also the fact that no one actually seen Dredd, so in that regard it can be said it's not doing too bad. For me, Dredd and a cartoon were the two best films I've seen this year.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 November, 2012, 09:05:17 AM
Dumb question, is there anyone here don't like the film?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 09:27:17 AM
Yeah, me. And half of the people i went to see it with. Im not sure why it's a 'dumb question' Goaty- liking the movie is not a prerequisite of enjoying 2000AD, and everyone has their own opinion. I didnt hate it, it didnt make me want to walk out, but i thought it a wasted opportunity and as close to the strip as the stallone one, in its own way. There was much that i objected to- notably the language, the meagre story and the graphic content. It's not a movie id want to watch again in a hurry.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 November, 2012, 01:00:30 PM
(http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx245/karla2_03/Captures/jaimie%20r/caesar/tim/entrevistas/Axr9X.jpg)

(http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx245/karla2_03/Captures/jaimie%20r/caesar/tim/entrevistas/f4wIb.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 27 November, 2012, 01:11:00 PM
QuoteIt's not a movie id want to watch again in a hurry.

So much so you went to see it three times?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 27 November, 2012, 01:17:46 PM
Could you go back through all your posts Goaty and put all the pics from the film in order. I think you've shown the whole film in 'Goatyboard' now!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 November, 2012, 01:28:51 PM
Oh well Nah, prefer to watch it in blu-ray!  :lol:

Here something for you, CF

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff362/kirilllove/Gifs/gifs-planetcom4.gif)
(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff362/kirilllove/Gifs/gifs-planetcom7.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 02:48:16 PM
Quote from: radiator on 27 November, 2012, 01:11:00 PM
QuoteIt's not a movie id want to watch again in a hurry.

So much so you went to see it three times?

As you well know, I have a loyalty to the brand and THAT is why I went three times- since it was obvious the movie was going to flop. I went once on my own, once with my wife and once with an old friend. She loved it, he hated it. My loyalty to the brand means I will continue to buy the IDW Dredd series to the bitter end, and eventually track down all the BF Audios too, despite not being in the least interested in listening to any of them. It also meant I continued buying 2000AD throughout the whole of the nineties and am therefore partially responsible for it still being here. None of which has any baring on liking the movie, Radiator. My posts about the movie number a small handful, because I didn't want to piss on anyone's chips when the anxiety over numbers was at its highest. And because I don't feel the need to discuss it, except when specifically asked.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 27 November, 2012, 03:05:41 PM
If it's just brand loyalty, then why not just buy a few extras tickets and not attend the screening rather than having to endure the film three times?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 27 November, 2012, 03:20:10 PM
;-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 03:42:28 PM
Because i very much wanted to like it, and gave myself three goes. At the end of three goes i was no closer to liking it, or even understanding why they did it the way they did. I actually bought five tickets, including my wife's and my friend's. He refused to pay to see it, having been put off by the script.

I will buy on dvd, but i very much doubr anything but the extras will be watched unless small blue wife specifically asks for it. She enjoyed it far more than i did- but then, she likes things like jean claude van damme and all that.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 04:02:53 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 09:27:17 AM
Yeah, me. And half of the people i went to see it with. Im not sure why it's a 'dumb question' Goaty- liking the movie is not a prerequisite of enjoying 2000AD, and everyone has their own opinion. I didnt hate it, it didnt make me want to walk out, but i thought it a wasted opportunity and as close to the strip as the stallone one, in its own way. There was much that i objected to- notably the language, the meagre story and the graphic content. It's not a movie id want to watch again in a hurry.

SBT
If the source material is often light on plot in some of it's smaller stories, and is often very graphic, then I don't understand how you objected to those things. If anything, those were the stronger points of the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 27 November, 2012, 04:19:42 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 04:02:53 PM
If the source material is often light on plot in some of it's smaller stories, and is often very graphic, then I don't understand how you objected to those things. If anything, those were the stronger points of the film.

That's true, but it's often not as well. Is this going to end with SBT being forced to confess to consorting with the devyl in the forme of a smalle black cat and making a clay image of Alex Garland into which he did stick pins?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 04:28:26 PM
I don't get the whole culture of cinema goers and film watchers these days pinning for scripts that have convoluted plots. A film doesn't have to have a complex plot with a big pay off at the end to be good. In fact, very few films manage to pull that off, even the Nolan Batman films, which I think are a little bit too pretentious and bloated because of the "need" to be epic. The Transformers films are a perfect example of something being royally fucked up because of this trend. You look at the plot in that, and then think "was there any need?" If they simplified the plot to something very basic, then they'd be a lot better off for it. Just because a plot is simple it does not equate to something that is watered down and less entertaining. There is a reason why a lot of the films from the 80's are now regarded as classics and cult classics, and the plot isn't the main factor in that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 04:47:03 PM
See, ive not seen any transformers films. And while i have had the first couple of bat-films on, i wasnt really paying attention. I had them on as a  double-bill while i was doing a waking night, so was more worried about being murdered than the antics of batman. I wouldnt bother with the third based on what i saw.

Im not really interested in going into great detail as to why i thought Dredd 3D not very good. Suffice to say, it wasnt dredd i recognised or enjoyed and i would hope that were dredd ever to get a third go, they may just try and do it so it's like the comic that people have read. Like the hugely successful marvel films, f'rinstance, which celebrate the inherent silliness of the comics and yet still get accepted by millions of filmgoers across the world.

But id say while its still smarting that the dredd movie failed so badly, now's probably not the time to debate it.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 27 November, 2012, 05:38:26 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 04:47:03 PMSee, ive not seen any transformers films.
Probably a good thing—doubly so if you've any fond memories of the property, especially the British comics.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 27 November, 2012, 06:21:22 PM
Dredd 3D, . . . a great film marketed at the fans (and felt like it was mainly made for fans). As for the general viewing public I don't even think they knew this film was coming and if they did didn't particulary care for it :( I wonder why that was? . . . perhaps it came across as old hat and looks like we've seen this somewhere before. And they probably have as this type of movie and theme has saturated the market for years now. Would newer fresher characters like Rogue Trooper and Strontium Dog appeal more to the movie going general audience?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 27 November, 2012, 06:34:08 PM
 Arent films like Batman, or X-men made, at least initially, for the fans?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 27 November, 2012, 06:37:31 PM
No, in the VAST majority of cases films are made to make money, simple as that. The bigger the fanbase/societal awareness of a character/concept, the better, as it will hopefully make more money.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 06:43:46 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 04:47:03 PM
See, ive not seen any transformers films. And while i have had the first couple of bat-films on, i wasnt really paying attention. I had them on as a  double-bill while i was doing a waking night, so was more worried about being murdered than the antics of batman. I wouldnt bother with the third based on what i saw.

Im not really interested in going into great detail as to why i thought Dredd 3D not very good. Suffice to say, it wasnt dredd i recognised or enjoyed and i would hope that were dredd ever to get a third go, they may just try and do it so it's like the comic that people have read. Like the hugely successful marvel films, f'rinstance, which celebrate the inherent silliness of the comics and yet still get accepted by millions of filmgoers across the world.

But id say while its still smarting that the dredd movie failed so badly, now's probably not the time to debate it.

SBT
I get what you're saying, but I think the film makers just didn't want to risk making it much like the comics that we know. It is, but isn't. I personally think that some of the things in the comic just don't work on screen. Dredd and the judges design being one. We already witnessed that in the Stallone version. Those outfits, while somewhat closer to the comic design, just looks silly in comparison to the new film's costume. What I wanted to see more of is Dredd in MC1 and more judges. That would have made it a lot more familiar to the overall comic aesthetic. It's because we never really got to see passing much judgement in this film, and it generally looked repetitive because it was mostly contained to the same environment throughout. Half of the appeal of the comic is the city and everything that it encompasses. We only got a sniff of that in this film, and that for me is where it fell short.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 06:53:01 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 27 November, 2012, 06:34:08 PM
Arent films like Batman, or X-men made, at least initially, for the fans?
Batman has more or less been made in the vision of the director first, rather than the fans. If anything, the fan's were the last thing Nolan thought of. It's just because it's Batman and that it was "epic" that it's a big as what it is. For me, Burtan's Batman is much closer to the comics than any of the rest. If a new Batman comes out, I'd like it to return to that kind of aesthetic. There's just something jarring about having a man run about in a rubber costume set against the backdrop of extreme reality. Him and the city don't gel well. This was one of the things that was a complete success in Dredd. Dredd isn't your typical, fantastic-looking comic book hero. He's just a regular man. His outfit is worn to the requirement of his job. The premise of his city coming to existence in the way it is was plausible. The judges coming into existence in the way they are is plausible to our own reality in many ways. A man running about in a rubber suit and cape is not. Dredd got the context of things relative to the character absolutely correct. What I'm saying is, Batman and the rest are better suited to keeping things more fantasy-based, like Batman and Burton's Gotham suited each other in their design. When I look at Nolan's Gotham, I just think "oh, look - it's Manhattan...again."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 27 November, 2012, 06:57:35 PM
I liked the film personally, especially the portrayal of Dredd and Anderson. I did miss seeing more of the city, or even variety within the block - but I lay the blame for that on the insistence of 3D by the backers.

Personally I suspect that if the city/costume etc. had been closer to the comic it still wouldn't have made much difference, and we'd be having the discussion about whether that hobbled its chances.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 07:00:55 PM
We shall never agree on this. I think movie dredd looks ridiculous; as if an escapee from the blue oyster bar has gone to a fancy dress party as comics' judge dredd. It's the juxtaposition of rufty tufty riot cop (which in itself looks stupidly pretend-macho and camp) and clashing helmet. It reminds me of one of those transformers that has the head of spider-man or batman.

Having seen judge minty the proper comics costume works fine. Absolutely fine. With a bit of work on the leather bodysuit (seams? Ha!) it would look fabulous. If Thor, Spidey, Captain America (and even i spent the avengers waiting for them to point out how stupid-looking cap was) and the green lantern (!) can get screen outings where they look like they should without some twenty-something know it all trying to do better and redesign them, then dredd should be afforded the same decency. But the look of the uniform was, for me, the least of the movie's problems.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 27 November, 2012, 07:10:12 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 27 November, 2012, 06:37:31 PM
No, in the VAST majority of cases films are made to make money, simple as that. The bigger the fanbase/societal awareness of a character/concept, the better, as it will hopefully make more money.

Of course. But producers of such films are at least aware of fan's concerns, and factor those in - to a degree. Which is all Dredd's makers were ever doing. Certainly dont think Dredd was made exclusively for us.

Anyway it failed because (exactly like the comic) the 'good guy' is really a 'bad guy' - try selling that concept to the masses, and the 3D bubble burst,  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 27 November, 2012, 07:16:47 PM
You have to remember that Dredd's uniform is for practical use and not some crappy fashion parade, like D.C & Marvel. Looking back on the stuff I wore when I would do my sneaky beaky stuff, it would look cumbersome and not aesthetically pleasing to the eye but it did the job. You choose a happy medium between protection and use. This is where the Dredd production team got it spot on :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cursed Earth Dweller on 27 November, 2012, 07:31:28 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 04:28:26 PMA film doesn't have to have a complex plot with a big pay off at the end to be good. In fact, very few films manage to pull that off, even the Nolan Batman films, which I think are a little bit too pretentious and bloated because of the "need" to be epic.

Why does everyone always talk about the Batman films when discussing Christopher Nolan? I mean, what was that other film he did with a complex plot with a big pay off at the end? Oh yeah, Inception!

Or are we strictly talking about comic book movies?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 27 November, 2012, 07:31:56 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 27 November, 2012, 07:16:47 PMYou have to remember that Dredd's uniform is for practical use and not some crappy fashion parade
Quite. This was an action movie, and a bunch of the stuff Dredd had to do wouldn't be possible with the massive shoulder pads (which, note, Stallone ditched as soon as possible). As I've noted on this forum before, I also find it odd anyone would consider the Stallone Dredd closer to the comic design than the newer movie, in terms of the uniform. The new one primarily deviates in adding extra armour, removing the badge chain and toning down the shoulder pads, making them akin to the original Dredds in the 1970s. The Stallone one messes with the helmet, chops off the eagle's body, tail and legs, adds a buckle between the shoulder pads, removes the elbow pads entirely, recolours and blings up the boots/kneepads, makes the main uniform out of lycra, and then adds a massive codpiece. Neither's perfect, but even in context Stallone looked ridiculous—Urban didn't.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 November, 2012, 07:32:19 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 07:00:55 PM
We shall never agree on this. I think movie dredd looks ridiculous; as if an escapee from the blue oyster bar has gone to a fancy dress party as comics' judge dredd. It's the juxtaposition of rufty tufty riot cop (which in itself looks stupidly pretend-macho and camp) and clashing helmet. It reminds me of one of those transformers that has the head of spider-man or batman.

Having seen judge minty the proper comics costume works fine. Absolutely fine. With a bit of work on the leather bodysuit (seams? Ha!) it would look fabulous. If Thor, Spidey, Captain America (and even i spent the avengers waiting for them to point out how stupid-looking cap was) and the green lantern (!) can get screen outings where they look like they should without some twenty-something know it all trying to do better and redesign them, then dredd should be afforded the same decency. But the look of the uniform was, for me, the least of the movie's problems.



Yet you said the film-uniform looked great in the comic prequel.


Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 12 September, 2012, 09:08:35 PMWasn't keen on the movie prelude- this is what I mean when I voice my fear of what the strip is to become. That said, it may be time to tinker with the uniform a bit and bring it a little into line with the movie version. If, that is, the film's a success. if not, keep it exactly how it is! The movie uniform looks great in comic form. But to be honest, there's no reason why we can't have some strips drawn like that and others like we know him already- there should never be a "correct" way to draw the judge uniform. That way lies boring boring arguments about links in chains, stripes on respirators and number of pouches on belts. Artists should always be free to experiment, I reckon. Continuity fascists should be locked away where they can do no harm. But no thanks- didn't like that strip at all.



So the comic version looks great on the page and on-screen in Minty but the Dredd film version can't?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 07:34:19 PM
Quote from: Cursed Earth Dweller on 27 November, 2012, 07:31:28 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 04:28:26 PMA film doesn't have to have a complex plot with a big pay off at the end to be good. In fact, very few films manage to pull that off, even the Nolan Batman films, which I think are a little bit too pretentious and bloated because of the "need" to be epic.

Why does everyone always talk about the Batman films when discussing Christopher Nolan? I mean, what was that other film he did with a complex plot with a big pay off at the end? Oh yeah, Inception!

Or are we strictly talking about comic book movies?
Inception complex? No.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cursed Earth Dweller on 27 November, 2012, 07:39:23 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 07:34:19 PM
Quote from: Cursed Earth Dweller on 27 November, 2012, 07:31:28 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 04:28:26 PMA film doesn't have to have a complex plot with a big pay off at the end to be good. In fact, very few films manage to pull that off, even the Nolan Batman films, which I think are a little bit too pretentious and bloated because of the "need" to be epic.

Why does everyone always talk about the Batman films when discussing Christopher Nolan? I mean, what was that other film he did with a complex plot with a big pay off at the end? Oh yeah, Inception!

Or are we strictly talking about comic book movies?
Inception complex? No.

Bollocks! But seen as not everyone was impressed with the Dredd then each to his own I geuss.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 07:40:18 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 07:00:55 PM
We shall never agree on this. I think movie dredd looks ridiculous; as if an escapee from the blue oyster bar has gone to a fancy dress party as comics' judge dredd. It's the juxtaposition of rufty tufty riot cop (which in itself looks stupidly pretend-macho and camp) and clashing helmet. It reminds me of one of those transformers that has the head of spider-man or batman.

Having seen judge minty the proper comics costume works fine. Absolutely fine. With a bit of work on the leather bodysuit (seams? Ha!) it would look fabulous. If Thor, Spidey, Captain America (and even i spent the avengers waiting for them to point out how stupid-looking cap was) and the green lantern (!) can get screen outings where they look like they should without some twenty-something know it all trying to do better and redesign them, then dredd should be afforded the same decency. But the look of the uniform was, for me, the least of the movie's problems.

SBT
The Minty outfits work because they have them set against the backdrop of the more fantastic looking cityscapes seen in the comic. If you were to take those buildings in the comic and actually try to make them real, then they'd fail every health and safety regulation going. They just aren't plausible structures that would stand in the real world. Same goes for the outfit. Dredd's outfit in the film is plausible. Sure it may have some garish design elements to it, but nothing that makes it overly ridiculous. It looks like it actually has a function to it rather than trying to look cool and over the top.

(http://www.promotekey.com/media/images/normal/apparel-accessories/workwear-uniforms/police-anti-riot-uniform-sno-4241-1.jpg)

Does that look ridiculous and "Blue Oyster Bar" also? That's a real outfit, but it's not a million miles away from Dredd's.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 07:41:59 PM
Quote from: Cursed Earth Dweller on 27 November, 2012, 07:39:23 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 07:34:19 PM
Quote from: Cursed Earth Dweller on 27 November, 2012, 07:31:28 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 04:28:26 PMA film doesn't have to have a complex plot with a big pay off at the end to be good. In fact, very few films manage to pull that off, even the Nolan Batman films, which I think are a little bit too pretentious and bloated because of the "need" to be epic.

Why does everyone always talk about the Batman films when discussing Christopher Nolan? I mean, what was that other film he did with a complex plot with a big pay off at the end? Oh yeah, Inception!

Or are we strictly talking about comic book movies?
Inception complex? No.

Bollocks! But seen as not everyone was impressed with the Dredd then each to his own I geuss.
Inception was not a complex film at all. It was about a man who had trouble dealing with the death of his wife, wrapped around the concept of infiltrating people's dreams in order to plant a seed or an idea. Do you mean it was complex in trying to grasp the levels of the dream within a dream? You'd have to be some kind of idiot to get lost there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 27 November, 2012, 07:42:36 PM
That looks more like a riot cop who has to stand his ground against the masses. Dredd is more an assault rig and therefore is much more flexible!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 07:46:11 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 27 November, 2012, 07:42:36 PM
That looks more like a riot cop who has to stand his ground against the masses. Dredd is more an assault rig and therefore is much more flexible!
True, but I suppose Dredd's uniform would have to conform to both. You can't have chains and big pointy eagle things sticking out. I mean, you could put a citizen's eye out by accident.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 27 November, 2012, 07:51:40 PM
I'm comparing to the movie and not the comic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 07:53:36 PM
Yep, as was I. I was just using the comic's as a reference in the differences.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 07:55:14 PM
I think joe, what i said was IF the movie was a success, then perhaps they should alter the uniform to look more like the movie one, and that it looked great on the printed page. No one ended up seeing the film, so the balance is still weighted in favour of more people knowing dredd from the comics, so it doesnt matter. Besides, i was being nice to the prequel strip as i couldnt find much else to say about it that wouldnt seem as if i was just being overly critical for the sake of it.
And again besides, people can change their minds. Just because i express an opinion today it does not follow that i may still hold that opinion next week. Sometimes i feel that gets forgotten when discussing shizzle online.

In the end, none of it matters. It's done now. I share alex wossname's view that the future of live action dredd lies on tv- either that, or as a series of low budget made for netflix/ syfy channel movies. Personally, i'd be happy to see that. I didnt like the movie, but i would absolutely support (cont)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 27 November, 2012, 07:56:43 PM
QuoteIt was about a man who had trouble dealing with the death of his wife

And that's not complex?
I mean, you could say Hamlet was 'Emo might kill uncle', but is is more complex than that...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 27 November, 2012, 07:56:58 PM
(cont)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 November, 2012, 07:59:30 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 27 November, 2012, 07:56:58 PM
(cont)

:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 November, 2012, 08:01:09 PM
The film-version looks more like Ezquerra/McMahon/Gibson's original 70's Dredd than some of the more flamboyant stylings that came later in the comic. As a legitimate version of Dredd the film-version is entirely acceptable and in exactly same way we accepted multiple variants on the page for 35 years. In the spirit of Dredd the film version is the real deal.


Gold plastic, lycra and cod-pieces are not that spirit.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 08:02:30 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 27 November, 2012, 07:56:43 PM
QuoteIt was about a man who had trouble dealing with the death of his wife

And that's not complex?
I mean, you could say Hamlet was 'Emo might kill uncle', but is is more complex than that...
That's the plot context. I wouldn't call it complex, no. I'm talking about the film's entire plot in general.  I read and hear a lot of people describing it as some kind of intelligent, complicated premise. It isn't. There's a few subtexts and themes in there, but no more than your usual science fiction affair. You interpret it how you wish.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 November, 2012, 08:02:39 PM
I totally agree with CF and Mr Soap.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 08:03:58 PM
(cont) dredd's future exploits on the screen- however they turn out. I can see nothing awful in a few cheapie tv movies, utilising the same designs/costumes and props as the movie, but set in the cursed earth or in a block, starring some cheaper tv actors. If for no other reason than these things are only as good as their screenplays, and we *could* get a real blinder, no matter the size of the cashpile involved. And you lot loved the movie universe, so id like you to have more goes at it.

As for cf's captain hurricane-style musings on the uniform- i get what you mean, but i dont care one jot if it looks 'real'. I do care that it looks nothing like the comic. I have similar, but not so ranty, concerns about spidey's suit in the recent film version. Metal slippers?!

Anyway- lets see who squeezed themselves in into my gaping (cont)...

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 08:08:01 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 November, 2012, 08:01:09 PM
The film-version looks more like Ezquerra/McMahon/Gibson's original 70's Dredd than some of the more flamboyant stylings that came later in the comic. As a legitimate version of Dredd the film-version is entirely acceptable and in exactly same way we accepted multiple variants on the page for 35 years. In the spirit of Dredd the film version is the real deal.


Gold plastic, lycra and cod-pieces are not that spirit.
I'd always trouble imagining what kind of material the large eagle and should pad was made from in the comic too. Some artists had them shiny and metallic, others had more flat, opaque-looking material. Of course the medium of choice had a say in that, but I always found the large pad on Dredd's left shoulder to be an odd thing in it's design. It certainly didn't bother me to see being reformed to that of the original Ezquerra design in the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 08:12:48 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 08:03:58 PM
(cont) dredd's future exploits on the screen- however they turn out. I can see nothing awful in a few cheapie tv movies, utilising the same designs/costumes and props as the movie, but set in the cursed earth or in a block, starring some cheaper tv actors. If for no other reason than these things are only as good as their screenplays, and we *could* get a real blinder, no matter the size of the cashpile involved. And you lot loved the movie universe, so id like you to have more goes at it.

As for cf's captain hurricane-style musings on the uniform- i get what you mean, but i dont care one jot if it looks 'real'. I do care that it looks nothing like the comic. I have similar, but not so ranty, concerns about spidey's suit in the recent film version. Metal slippers?!

Anyway- lets see who squeezed themselves in into my gaping (cont)...

SBT
This may be controversial, but I think I now actually prefer the film's design to that of the comic's. In  effect, the only real thing that is drastically different is the chain and the eagle. The rest more or less conforms to the original Dredd design from the comic before it became more fetishised by artists. The film version just looks so much more robust, gritty, and generally harder looking. The body armour and the back and neck protector give it a nice "don't fuck with me" sort of look.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 November, 2012, 08:13:21 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 07:55:14 PM
I think joe, what i said was IF the movie was a success, then perhaps they should alter the uniform to look more like the movie one, and that it looked great on the printed page. No one ended up seeing the film, so the balance is still weighted in favour of more people knowing dredd from the comics, so it doesnt matter. Besides, i was being nice to the prequel strip as i couldnt find much else to say about it that wouldnt seem as if i was just being overly critical for the sake of it.
And again besides, people can change their minds. Just because i express an opinion today it does not follow that i may still hold that opinion next week. Sometimes i feel that gets forgotten when discussing shizzle online.



So I take it then you no longer think The movie uniform looks great in comic form?

Personally I prefer when screen versions of comic material are not slavishly the same as source but add something a little different so it doesn't feel like I'm looking at a moving comic. Otherwise, why bother?


Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 07:55:14 PM
In the end, none of it matters. It's done now. I share alex wossname's view that the future of live action dredd lies on tv- either that, or as a series of low budget made for netflix/ syfy channel movies. Personally, i'd be happy to see that. I didnt like the movie, but i would absolutely support (cont)


Possibly, but the chances of it happening are no closer than another film. Webisodes are more of a possibility I suppose.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 November, 2012, 08:13:43 PM
Someone post that before...

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/orinanime/Judge%20Dredd/UrbanComparison2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 November, 2012, 08:16:47 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 08:12:48 PM
This may be controversial, but I think I now actually prefer the film's design to that of the comic's.


I prefer the film design on screen but I prefer the comic version on the page. They do and represent the same thing in different ways but don't work as well when they swap places.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 08:17:20 PM
The image of his back turned slightly to the side is immense looking. I love the design of that outfit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 08:20:05 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 November, 2012, 08:16:47 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 08:12:48 PM
This may be controversial, but I think I now actually prefer the film's design to that of the comic's.


I prefer the film design on screen but I prefer the comic version on the page. They do and represent the same thing in different ways but don't work as well when they swap places.
Yep, that's a very good way of putting it. I think I'd still prefer (or at least like to see) the judges to have the body armour of film's design, though. It'd be good to see a drawing of a mixture of both. I might just do that in the near future.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 27 November, 2012, 08:33:27 PM
QuoteI can see nothing awful in a few cheapie tv movies, utilising the same designs/costumes and props as the movie, but set in the cursed earth or in a block, starring some cheaper tv actors.

Just like Starship Troopers 2 & 3 - yay!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 08:49:07 PM
Yeah, if they had decent screenplays, why not? Both those movies had perfectly decent production values. To be honest, i was thinking more along the lines of a Swamp Shark/Monsterwolf level- enough cash to be done, but reliant on the script and performances to make it fly. If dr who can do an effective megacity in 'gridlock', or suggest it in 'new earth' (going back a bit...) then it's not beyond the realms of possibiity that a decent dredd movie could be made for less than five million, if that's all that a studio was prepared to invest.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 27 November, 2012, 08:52:34 PM
Quote
I prefer the film design on screen but I prefer the comic version on the page. They do and represent the same thing in different ways but don't work as well when they swap places.

That Prequel comic looked pretty darned good though, its got to be said.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 27 November, 2012, 08:57:54 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 08:49:07 PM
Yeah, if they had decent screenplays, why not? Both those movies had perfectly decent production values. To be honest, i was thinking more along the lines of a Swamp Shark/Monsterwolf level- enough cash to be done, but reliant on the script and performances to make it fly. If dr who can do an effective megacity in 'gridlock', or suggest it in 'new earth' (going back a bit...) then it's not beyond the realms of possibiity that a decent dredd movie could be made for less than five million, if that's all that a studio was prepared to invest.

SBT

Aside from production values, low budget means that they won't be spending much on the script or acting talent either, hence the reason 99.999999999999% of the type of films you're talking about are unwatchable shite.

I would much rather the plug be pulled entirely on the Dredd franchise than it suffer the indignity of poorly made straight to VoD sequels.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 November, 2012, 09:17:35 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 08:49:07 PM
Yeah, if they had decent screenplays, why not? Both those movies had perfectly decent production values. To be honest, i was thinking more along the lines of a Swamp Shark/Monsterwolf level- enough cash to be done, but reliant on the script and performances to make it fly. If dr who can do an effective megacity in 'gridlock', or suggest it in 'new earth' (going back a bit...) then it's not beyond the realms of possibiity that a decent dredd movie could be made for less than five million, if that's all that a studio was prepared to invest.



If that's the amount of money offered up then it'd be a better option to do a TV mini-series of around 7 episodes based around a Sector House where contained, character based stories could be afforded a longer time to develop but could also eschew the obligatory need for larger climactic action scenes cinematic presentations require to entertain.


Spend a million on each episode and it would be fairly decent quality.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 09:39:49 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 November, 2012, 09:17:35 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2012, 08:49:07 PM
Yeah, if they had decent screenplays, why not? Both those movies had perfectly decent production values. To be honest, i was thinking more along the lines of a Swamp Shark/Monsterwolf level- enough cash to be done, but reliant on the script and performances to make it fly. If dr who can do an effective megacity in 'gridlock', or suggest it in 'new earth' (going back a bit...) then it's not beyond the realms of possibiity that a decent dredd movie could be made for less than five million, if that's all that a studio was prepared to invest.



If that's the amount of money offered up then it'd be a better option to do a TV mini-series of around 7 episodes based around a Sector House where contained, character based stories could be afforded a longer time to develop but could also eschew the obligatory need for larger climactic action scenes cinematic presentations require to entertain.


Spend a million on each episode and it would be fairly decent quality.

Yeah- I think I said before that a "Sector 13" tv show, featuring a squad of judges of whom Dredd was only a part, would be an interesting take for a series. It would also force the series away from the "action movie" template that (for me) crippled the film, and towards that of all those cop shows that still seem to be so popular on tv. It would be quite brilliant to see Justice Dept develop over the course of four or five series- the early stages of Psi Division, with psychic powers becoming more important as it went on, etc etc. Basically, The Pit writ large.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 27 November, 2012, 11:05:44 PM
Slightly off topic but does anyone know how well Ironclad did at the box office? Someone just mentioned they're filming a sequel but I can't imagine the original hack 'em slash 'em flick made much cash.

Quote from: radiator on 27 November, 2012, 08:57:54 PM
Aside from production values, low budget means that they won't be spending much on the script or acting talent either, hence the reason 99.999999999999% of the type of films you're talking about are unwatchable shite.

I would much rather the plug be pulled entirely on the Dredd franchise than it suffer the indignity of poorly made straight to VoD sequels.

Indeed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 November, 2012, 11:35:40 PM
Ironclad

Budget: $25 million.

Worldwide Box Office:   $2,598,765
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 27 November, 2012, 11:59:46 PM
Regarding uniform changes, I think the movie one looks great. When you look at it, you know it's Judge Dredd and the 70s comparison just shows there isn't really anything different anyway. The only thing that niggles me now after the initial mind blowing that was the film, is that the helmet doesn't cover the nose. But that I can quite easily live with.

If Ironclad can get a seqeul, Dredd has to get one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 November, 2012, 12:29:00 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 November, 2012, 11:35:40 PM
Ironclad

Budget: $25 million.

Worldwide Box Office:   $2,598,765

Thanks. That's quite pitiful. There is hope yet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 28 November, 2012, 10:24:18 AM
I enjoyed Ironclad, but I'm not surprised in the slightest it made so little money, I think the first ad's I saw for it were for the DVD.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 28 November, 2012, 10:27:53 AM
I'd never even heard of it before reading this thread, and I'm a big movie nerd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 November, 2012, 10:29:16 AM
Ironclad was really good enjoyable film. I don't think it is sequel to first film's plot... Maybe some different story?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cursed Earth Dweller on 28 November, 2012, 11:18:31 AM
Quote from: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 08:02:30 PMYou interpret it how you wish.

Isn't that what you're doing?

Quote from: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 08:02:30 PMI read and hear a lot of people describing it as some kind of intelligent, complicated premise. It isn't.

Don't you mean YOU THINK it isn?

Quote from: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 08:02:30 PMYou'd have to be some kind of idiot to get lost there.

I resent that! Not everyone has an eye for plot structure and I would like know weather I am talking to an open mind or just another bigoted cunt.

On second thought forget it, I know where this is going. Just forget I ever posted here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cursed Earth Dweller on 28 November, 2012, 11:20:25 AM
Sorry, "whether" not "weather". Fucking lack of edit!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 November, 2012, 11:32:47 AM
The trouble with Sci fiction TV shows is almost everything has to be built from scratch. You can dress up a building,  Blakes 7 infamously used the Top of the Pops studio for their set  but the weapons, futuristic transport etc have got to be constructed. That's expensive so the Studio would want a pretty sure fire 'winning selling point' which might be difficult considering Judge Dredd is a fascist Law man in a dystopian future. Not a lot of individuals beating/usurping/destroying the  Authoritarian system in Dredd; hell the System beats them.

Judge Anderson of PSI Division or Cadet Judges 'suddenly developing super powers' ala Heroes type of rip off would properly be more interesting to a TV Studio than old stony face.

I think there's some programme on American TV called Revolution which has a white family being hassled by an Authoritarian Government led by a Black man after all electrical gadgets get the blue screen of Death. I'm sure it's not developed to appeal to a certain type of Republican who can't believe that President O'Barma got elected back into the  White House but if this is the way American TV is going then Judge Dredd will only ever get made if he don's a white sheet, practises his 'White Power 'salutes and goes burn crosses on a hill somewhere .
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 28 November, 2012, 02:34:51 PM
Dredd was easily my film of the year.
And without wanting to resurrect the dull debate again, I thought the functional uniform looked superb in the movie and was totally in keeping with the early design of the character from the comic.
Can't wait for the Bluray!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 November, 2012, 03:18:42 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 November, 2012, 11:32:47 AM
The trouble with Sci fiction TV shows is almost everything has to be built from scratch. You can dress up a building,  Blakes 7 infamously used the Top of the Pops studio for their set  but the weapons, futuristic transport etc have got to be constructed. That's expensive so the Studio would want a pretty sure fire 'winning selling point' which might be difficult considering Judge Dredd is a fascist Law man in a dystopian future. Not a lot of individuals beating/usurping/destroying the  Authoritarian system in Dredd; hell the System beats them.


But most of the general props for Dredd have all ready been manufactured. Location work and green-screen would take up the bulk of any future proposition. We are just throwing around the idea of a limited mini-series with a certain appeal made for the price of a direct to DVD sequel not an entire season of episodes or a dodgy cash-in sequel.



Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 November, 2012, 11:32:47 AM
I think there's some programme on American TV called Revolution which has a white family being hassled by an Authoritarian Government led by a Black man after all electrical gadgets get the blue screen of Death. I'm sure it's not developed to appeal to a certain type of Republican who can't believe that President O'Barma got elected back into the  White House but if this is the way American TV is going then Judge Dredd will only ever get made if he don's a white sheet, practises his 'White Power 'salutes and goes burn crosses on a hill somewhere .


Since Dredd was not made by any US company in the first place I don't think anyone is expecting one to pick up the TV option for mainstream US TV.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 November, 2012, 03:23:34 PM

Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 November, 2012, 11:32:47 AM
The trouble with Sci fiction TV shows is almost everything has to be built from scratch. You can dress up a building,  Blakes 7 infamously used the Top of the Pops studio for their set  but the weapons, futuristic transport etc have got to be constructed. That's expensive so the Studio would want a pretty sure fire 'winning selling point' which might be difficult considering Judge Dredd is a fascist Law man in a dystopian future. Not a lot of individuals beating/usurping/destroying the  Authoritarian system in Dredd; hell the System beats them.



But most of the general props for Dredd have all ready been manufactured. Location work and green-screen would take up the bulk of any future proposition. We are just throwing around the pie in the sky idea of a limited mini-series with a certain appeal made for the price of a direct to DVD sequel not an entire season of episodes, and possibly a better alternative to a dodgy cash-in film sequel. As SBT rightly said, with a decent script, it wouldn't necessarily be shite.



Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 November, 2012, 11:32:47 AM
I think there's some programme on American TV called Revolution which has a white family being hassled by an Authoritarian Government led by a Black man after all electrical gadgets get the blue screen of Death. I'm sure it's not developed to appeal to a certain type of Republican who can't believe that President O'Barma got elected back into the  White House but if this is the way American TV is going then Judge Dredd will only ever get made if he don's a white sheet, practises his 'White Power 'salutes and goes burn crosses on a hill somewhere .


Since Dredd was not made by any US company in the first place I don't think anyone is expecting one to pick up the TV option for mainstream US TV.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 28 November, 2012, 03:36:01 PM
Quote from: Cursed Earth Dweller on 28 November, 2012, 11:18:31 AM
Quote from: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 08:02:30 PMYou interpret it how you wish.

Isn't that what you're doing?

Quote from: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 08:02:30 PMI read and hear a lot of people describing it as some kind of intelligent, complicated premise. It isn't.

Don't you mean YOU THINK it isn?

Quote from: Rusty on 27 November, 2012, 08:02:30 PMYou'd have to be some kind of idiot to get lost there.

I resent that! Not everyone has an eye for plot structure and I would like know weather I am talking to an open mind or just another bigoted cunt.

On second thought forget it, I know where this is going. Just forget I ever posted here.
Well, first I've to say sorry. I didn't mean to say that you are an idiot, I'm just saying that to think that the plot device in the film regarding the levels of dreams is complex and confusing, then you should really stop watching films if you think that is complex. I was hyped to watch Inception, then I watched it and found it nothing special. It's your typical Nolan film that leaves the ending open to interpretation. Nothing more. Certainly not that intelligent, nothing as smart as a script of something like the first Matrix film, which really got you thinking and made you say "Ohhh, I see" a few times during the show. Inception didn't do that for me, even though it was sort of similar in questioning what is real.

Anyway, enough of that. This thread is about, well, Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 28 November, 2012, 03:37:06 PM
Paul Giamatti in Ironclad. What a very odd casting choice.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 November, 2012, 03:55:19 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 28 November, 2012, 10:29:16 AM
Ironclad was really good enjoyable film. I don't think it is sequel to first film's plot... Maybe some different story?

I haven't taken a look to be honest, but my friend sez..

"Currently they're filming in Kraljevo which is far away. Then they'll come to Belgrade to film at the Kalemegdan fortress."

So the plot sounds similar. Maybe it's direct to DVD. Not that you'd notice the difference.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 November, 2012, 03:59:51 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/5HFS2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 28 November, 2012, 07:22:20 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 28 November, 2012, 03:37:06 PM
Paul Giamatti in Ironclad. What a very odd casting choice.

Odd, but inspired. The very definition of scenery chewing. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 28 November, 2012, 09:41:13 PM
Thirty five years of different stories and uniform designs mean they'll never please everyone.

For my mind the uniform worked in the film but I would still have preferred later era Ezquerra uniform. After all, it's a film. It doesn't have to be practical and real. James Bond Aston Martin doesn't have all of those gadgets in it for real.

And as for story tone, they picked one of my least favourite. The ultra violence.  Didn't stop me trying to big it up to normal earthlets though but I still think that 18 certificate was it's own worst enemy. If you asked Wagner and Grant to write  12 certificate story within the budget but that still captured the essence of DREDD, I bet they could do it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 November, 2012, 09:46:47 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 28 November, 2012, 09:41:13 PM
After all, it's a film. It doesn't have to be practical and real. James Bond Aston Martin doesn't have all of those gadgets in it for real.


No, but that design decision fit the style and budget of the film better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 28 November, 2012, 10:08:03 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 28 November, 2012, 09:41:13 PM
If you asked Wagner and Grant to write  12 certificate story within the budget but that still captured the essence of DREDD, I bet they could do it.

According to Alan Grant, they did exactly that (http://www.2000adreview.co.uk/features/interviews/2005/grant/grant10.shtml). The producers of the 1995 Dredd film wanted to pay them less than a quarter of what Wisher and DeSouza received for their work, so Wagner & Grant told them to stick it up their arses. I'd pay good money to read that treatment.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 November, 2012, 10:16:36 PM
Quote from: we are all roger godpleton on 28 November, 2012, 10:08:03 PMI'd pay good money to read that treatment.


John Wagner has said he didn't think such a thing existed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 28 November, 2012, 10:30:31 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 November, 2012, 10:16:36 PM
Quote from: we are all roger godpleton on 28 November, 2012, 10:08:03 PMI'd pay good money to read that treatment.

John Wagner has said he didn't think such a thing existed.

Bugger. Although, he also says he can't remember whether he agreed to kill Johnny Alpha.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 28 November, 2012, 10:37:47 PM
So why didn't they ask them this time round?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 28 November, 2012, 10:52:39 PM
You cant lay any blame for the box office takings at the design direction of the film, or the script.

Yes, some elements were not cannon to the comic but all that amounts to nothing that bares any relation to why a US audience decided to basically not go to the cinema that week.





 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Robert Frazer on 28 November, 2012, 10:55:20 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 28 November, 2012, 10:37:47 PM
So why didn't they ask them this time round?

Probably because "obscure-to-the-only-country-that-matters British comic geek who has a surname like a Nazi" doesn't have as much cachet with the cinemagoing public as "THAT GUY WHO WROTE THE FAST-ZOMBIE MOVIE!"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 November, 2012, 10:57:07 PM
Oi! Thanks to Alex Garland, without him involved, the film won't happens!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 November, 2012, 10:59:00 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 28 November, 2012, 10:52:39 PM
Yes, some elements were not cannon to the comic but all that amounts to nothing that bares any relation to why a US audience decided to basically not go to the cinema that week.


or the rest of the world.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 28 November, 2012, 11:16:18 PM
Doesn't an 18 film have a much smaller market than a 12?


I'm sure Garland could have written  a 12 DREDD screenplay that "GOT" DREDD  as well.

I said ages ago that I was disappointed I couldn't take Tiny Tips to see it. And much as I like the film they made, I still wish they'd plumped for a 12.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 November, 2012, 11:29:32 PM


They tried to do that with the Stallone film. It got an R anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 28 November, 2012, 11:34:57 PM
Yep, you could make a Dredd movie with equivalent levels of violence to Taken or Dark Knight, but ultimately it would end up getting slapped with a 15/R because it's a bit edgy thematically. Dredd is a state executioner - there's no getting away from that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 28 November, 2012, 11:41:19 PM
The missus is flatly refusing to let my lad watch the film when the blue ray comes out. I am sure I can find an opportunity though. (He is 8)




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 28 November, 2012, 11:46:00 PM
Simple - scribble out the '1' on the '18' certificate logo on the box!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 28 November, 2012, 11:48:59 PM
Or SBT could adopt him,  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 November, 2012, 12:10:45 AM
It seems a bit silly to talk about rewriting the entire film at this point; which would have to happen in exchange for a lower rating, otherwise you're just neutering a well received Dredd flick (of those who watched it).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 29 November, 2012, 01:22:54 AM
I've seen very few films with such a disparity between box office takings and quality as Dredd.
Irrespective of this, I think the film was made for fans and those who saw it had an overriding appreciation for what Garland and Co were trying to achieve, it was just that an audience brought up on a diet of formulaic and uninspired fayre were not attuned to appreciate it.
Time will be very kind to Dredd though I suspect.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 29 November, 2012, 07:24:21 AM
Neither of mine will ballowed to watch Dredd- the language puts paid to that, and the sexual content. Both things were strong reasons i thought the makers didnt have a clue.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 29 November, 2012, 09:39:36 AM
Quote from: Robert Frazer on 28 November, 2012, 10:55:20 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 28 November, 2012, 10:37:47 PM
So why didn't they ask them this time round?

Probably because "obscure-to-the-only-country-that-matters British comic geek who has a surname like a Nazi" doesn't have as much cachet with the cinemagoing public as "THAT GUY WHO WROTE THE FAST-ZOMBIE MOVIE!"

Thing is, from what I recall they didn't really capitalise on that either - I don't remember any references to 28 Days Later on the poster/trailer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 29 November, 2012, 09:48:55 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 29 November, 2012, 09:39:36 AM
Quote from: Robert Frazer on 28 November, 2012, 10:55:20 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 28 November, 2012, 10:37:47 PM
So why didn't they ask them this time round?

Probably because "obscure-to-the-only-country-that-matters British comic geek who has a surname like a Nazi" doesn't have as much cachet with the cinemagoing public as "THAT GUY WHO WROTE THE FAST-ZOMBIE MOVIE!"

Thing is, from what I recall they didn't really capitalise on that either - I don't remember any references to 28 Days Later on the poster/trailer.

That's a real shame they didn't! The beach, 28 days later and Sunshine. Not to say I'm the biggest fan of either of those, but I know quite a lot that are. And they could'v easily watched Dredd thanks to it.

The new film Gambit makes very good use of stating it was written by the Coen brothers. I'm sure at least a couple of people will see it just because of that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 29 November, 2012, 09:58:41 AM
QuoteThing is, from what I recall they didn't really capitalise on that either - I don't remember any references to 28 Days Later on the poster/trailer.

That really bloody irked me. In my experience, dropping Garland's name in relation to Dredd was the only thing that got friends interested/hopeful!

They could also have possibly got away with 'from the makers of District 9'....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 29 November, 2012, 11:02:43 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 29 November, 2012, 07:24:21 AM
Neither of mine will ballowed to watch Dredd- the language puts paid to that, and the sexual content. Both things were strong reasons i thought the makers didnt have a clue.
The language I'll grant you, but sexual content isn't alien to the more mature Dredd stories (and a handful of less mature ones); the America arc has [spoiler]sex and Beeny is sexually assaulted[/spoiler]. I'd also question at what point Dredd would become suitable for kids anyway. The old-day comics were by their very nature sanitised, and what you see in stills is very different to a moving image. So you'd have to remove most of the gore, any negative sexual content, and probably soften Dredd in the nature of what he does.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 29 November, 2012, 11:09:03 AM
Quote from: radiator on 29 November, 2012, 09:58:41 AM
They could also have possibly got away with 'from the makers of District 9'....

That too!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 29 November, 2012, 05:10:03 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 28 November, 2012, 11:16:18 PM
Doesn't an 18 film have a much smaller market than a 12?


I'm sure Garland could have written  a 12 DREDD screenplay that "GOT" DREDD  as well.

I said ages ago that I was disappointed I couldn't take Tiny Tips to see it. And much as I like the film they made, I still wish they'd plumped for a 12.
Sure. I mean Taken 1 and 2 were PG's. The thing is, I felt there was something wrong with the first Taken when I watched it, and couldn't put my finger on it. It felt cheap or something, and I think it was the lack of proper violence or blood that did it. In other words, it lacked a bit of bollocks. You could take the gore out, but where would be the fun in that? Then there was also the language. Drop an F bomb in there, and your rating goes up too. If you want to show how brutal Dredd's reality is, then all that good stuff is a necessary evil. It gives it a proper edge. The only thing I felt that didn't really need to be in there was the sex scene bit. I think that was a bit gratuitous and playing with the fact that Garland knew it was going to be an 18 anyway, so he threw it in there for extra value.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 29 November, 2012, 05:16:01 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 November, 2012, 11:29:32 PM


They tried to do that with the Stallone film. It got an R anyway.
Wait, what...? It's an R? R's equivalent to an 18, right? Genuinely scratching my head at that one. Whenever I genuinely think of that film, it's more Disney than Robocop.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 29 November, 2012, 05:17:58 PM
Yeah, just checked. It's a 15, but still, a 15 these days is even hard to come by. Still baffling.

Oh, and I'm sure it's already been mentioned, but we really need an edit button.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 29 November, 2012, 05:37:50 PM
R is the rough equivalent of a UK 15 - no one under the age of 17 admitted, unless accompanied by an adult.

NC-17 is the equivalent of a UK 18 - no one under 17 admitted full stop.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 29 November, 2012, 06:52:26 PM
Quote from: radiator on 29 November, 2012, 05:37:50 PM
R is the rough equivalent of a UK 15 - no one under the age of 17 admitted, unless accompanied by an adult.

NC-17 is the equivalent of a UK 18 - no one under 17 admitted full stop.
Ah, I see. I always assumed that the US R rating was a UK 18 or thereabouts. I don't think I've even heard a trailer that says "rated NC-17" in it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 29 November, 2012, 08:18:36 PM
I genuinely think you lot must be reading a different comic from me and SBT if you think you can't do a great DREDD story that doesn't have excessive gore (and sex or swearing). Like I say I liked what I saw but think they missed a trick by going for the 18.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 November, 2012, 08:47:39 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 29 November, 2012, 08:18:36 PM
I genuinely think you lot must be reading a different comic from me and SBT if you think you can't do a great DREDD story that doesn't have excessive gore (and sex or swearing).

I don't think anyone has said that. All anyone has said is that they don't think it's incompatible with the comic version of Dredd to focus on the grimmer/dystopian aspects of the character at the expense of the absurdist comedy. The strip encompasses such a broad range of styles, it would be impossible to encapsulate them all within one movie, so picking one and focussing on it is a valid approach.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 29 November, 2012, 08:49:14 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 29 November, 2012, 06:52:26 PM
Quote from: radiator on 29 November, 2012, 05:37:50 PM
R is the rough equivalent of a UK 15 - no one under the age of 17 admitted, unless accompanied by an adult.

NC-17 is the equivalent of a UK 18 - no one under 17 admitted full stop.
Ah, I see. I always assumed that the US R rating was a UK 18 or thereabouts. I don't think I've even heard a trailer that says "rated NC-17" in it.

Barely any films are rated NC-17 these days - it's regarded as the kiss of death.

Tips, I know a Dredd film doesn't HAVE to be bloody - what we're saying is that any Dredd film is going to run into problems thematically, and would likely end up getting a 15/R even if they tried to play it safe. Also, I'd personally be annoyed with a 12A Dredd, because I fucking hate 12A rated action films in general.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 29 November, 2012, 09:03:09 PM
I think too, that no matter how unbloody you make it, when you have the two 'heroes' executing captured criminals and shooting people in the back, you're running into a ratings problem right there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 29 November, 2012, 09:06:14 PM
I don't think they could have effectively put across what a terrible place Mega City One would be to live in if it wasn't an 18. Even if you didn't think this was a good representation of Dredd (which it was) it was still a kick ass movie and will be well remembered because it's actually quite refreshing to see an action film that didn't make compromises to get more people to see it. Even though it's described as Ultra-Violent, I don't think it was actually that bad. Maybe it's because of CGI blood, but when people were talking about it before I had seen it I was expecting it to be worse.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 29 November, 2012, 09:10:38 PM
It's odd to complain about Dredd going the 18 rating route. It should be applauded and commended, rather than criticised. It was a brave thing to do, and give that Garland has an issue or two over the hypocrisy of the rating system, it was as if he was attempting a big "fuck you" to the establishment that dictates these often ridiculous ratings. What I mean is this: had Dredd been hugely successful, then it surely would have encouraged a lot of film makers to be more bold in making their films. It could have ushered in a brand new era in bringing back the old school ways of making action films, which were often very violent and extremely entertaining due to that fact. So Hollywood lost its balls in the action genre long ago, it took an indy project to show them how to remind them how to do it and be successful. It's just a pity it didn't turn out to be the success the studio was hoping for financially. I think it's safe to say that the old 80's style actioner is dead in the water now because of it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 29 November, 2012, 09:12:39 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 29 November, 2012, 09:03:09 PM
I think too, that no matter how unbloody you make it, when you have the two 'heroes' executing captured criminals and shooting people in the back, you're running into a ratings problem right there.
So how did Taken 2 get it's rating? There was plenty of killing in that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 November, 2012, 09:15:24 PM
I think Dredd should've just shouted at the criminals and tried to get them to stop with threats of imprisonment! If only we had the bland DC/Marvel tosh that seems to go down well with the lobotomised masses and watered down the whole Dredd mythos, at least then it would've been amazing!
I was disgusted that we had a true to character portrayal on screen and was left fuming as Dredd and that female Judge (who was just a sex object) went about killing people who never really had a chance in finding their potential in life.

Disgusted of Maidstone!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 29 November, 2012, 09:22:04 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 November, 2012, 09:15:24 PM
I think Dredd should've just shouted at the criminals and tried to get them to stop with threats of imprisonment! If only we had the bland DC/Marvel tosh that seems to go down well with the lobotomised masses and watered down the whole Dredd mythos, at least then it would've been amazing!
I was disgusted that we had a true to character portrayal on screen and was left fuming as Dredd and that female Judge (who was just a sex object) went about killing people who never really had a chance in finding their potential in life.

Disgusted of Maidstone!!!

Nice to see you talking sense at last, instead of your usual shite, ye big jesse!

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 November, 2012, 09:30:58 PM



The current episode of Dredd would be rated 18.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 29 November, 2012, 09:34:09 PM
Quote from: radiator on 29 November, 2012, 05:37:50 PM
R is the rough equivalent of a UK 15 - no one under the age of 17 admitted, unless accompanied by an adult.
NC-17 is the equivalent of a UK 18 - no one under 17 admitted full stop.

To be honest, R is equivalent to both 15 and 18.  The excessively violent stuff tends to be viewed more lightly in the US.  On the other hand, pretty much anything with explicit sex & nudity is forced up to NC-17, which has become associated with pornography.  As I understand it, a lot of cinema chains refuse to show NC-17 movies; Blockbuster Video won't stock NC-17; and many US magazines & TV stations won't accept advertising for an NC-17 movie.

What it means, I suppose, is that the nearest to NC-17 in the UK is "R18", i.e. porn.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 29 November, 2012, 09:41:04 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 29 November, 2012, 09:12:39 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 29 November, 2012, 09:03:09 PM
I think too, that no matter how unbloody you make it, when you have the two 'heroes' executing captured criminals and shooting people in the back, you're running into a ratings problem right there.
So how did Taken 2 get it's rating? There was plenty of killing in that.

No idea. Never seen Taken 2. The massive amount of racism in the first one was quite enough for me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 29 November, 2012, 09:52:39 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 29 November, 2012, 09:41:04 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 29 November, 2012, 09:12:39 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 29 November, 2012, 09:03:09 PM
I think too, that no matter how unbloody you make it, when you have the two 'heroes' executing captured criminals and shooting people in the back, you're running into a ratings problem right there.
So how did Taken 2 get it's rating? There was plenty of killing in that.

No idea. Never seen Taken 2. The massive amount of racism in the first one was quite enough for me.
LOL I know what you mean. yeah, those nasty bad guys from over there are at it again in the second one. And guess what? They die by the dozen. It's an atrocious film, so bad I think I'll stop typing before I go into one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 29 November, 2012, 09:54:20 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 29 November, 2012, 08:47:39 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 29 November, 2012, 08:18:36 PM
I genuinely think you lot must be reading a different comic from me and SBT if you think you can't do a great DREDD story that doesn't have excessive gore (and sex or swearing).

I don't think anyone has said that...

Cheers

Jim

Fair enough. Skim reading. Sorry.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 29 November, 2012, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 November, 2012, 09:15:24 PM
I think Dredd should've just shouted at the criminals and tried to get them to stop with threats of imprisonment! If only we had the bland DC/Marvel tosh that seems to go down well with the lobotomised masses and watered down the whole Dredd mythos, at least then it would've been amazing!
I was disgusted that we had a true to character portrayal on screen and was left fuming as Dredd and that female Judge (who was just a sex object) went about killing people who never really had a chance in finding their potential in life.

Disgusted of Maidstone!!!

And I don't think ANYONE is saying that either.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 29 November, 2012, 09:56:53 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 29 November, 2012, 09:54:20 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 29 November, 2012, 08:47:39 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 29 November, 2012, 08:18:36 PM
I genuinely think you lot must be reading a different comic from me and SBT if you think you can't do a great DREDD story that doesn't have excessive gore (and sex or swearing).

I don't think anyone has said that...

Cheers

Jim

Fair enough. Skim reading. Sorry.

Hold on... you're apologising? On the INTERNET?
What's happened to you, man? You've changed...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 30 November, 2012, 12:22:10 AM
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It got cut.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 30 November, 2012, 06:10:02 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 November, 2012, 09:15:24 PM
I think Dredd should've just shouted at the criminals and tried to get them to stop with threats of imprisonment! If only we had the bland DC/Marvel tosh that seems to go down well with the lobotomised masses and watered down the whole Dredd mythos, at least then it would've been amazing!
I was disgusted that we had a true to character portrayal on screen and was left fuming as Dredd and that female Judge (who was just a sex object) went about killing people who never really had a chance in finding their potential in life.

Disgusted of Maidstone!!!

Sex object!? The female Judge was atrocious. I came to the cinema and hoped for a couple of good side boobs or cleavage and that she'd stay out the way!
But nooo: she had to have a fully devolped and good character (aren't those meant for men!?) and not a single sexualised moment... Yeah sure "one": but it took the fun out of picturing her naked >:(

And why was that Dredd-cop such a villian? I constantly had a hard time telling him apart from the bad guys. My head almost hurt since I almost had to THINK :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MercZ on 30 November, 2012, 06:48:58 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 29 November, 2012, 09:34:09 PM

To be honest, R is equivalent to both 15 and 18.  The excessively violent stuff tends to be viewed more lightly in the US.  On the other hand, pretty much anything with explicit sex & nudity is forced up to NC-17, which has become associated with pornography.  As I understand it, a lot of cinema chains refuse to show NC-17 movies; Blockbuster Video won't stock NC-17; and many US magazines & TV stations won't accept advertising for an NC-17 movie.

What it means, I suppose, is that the nearest to NC-17 in the UK is "R18", i.e. porn.

Yeah, that is true. Being from the United States myself, it's difficult to find theaters that will screen NC-17 movies or stores that carry them- rental or retail. Most movies that get NC-17 go beyond the nudity allowed in R films (IE past nudity to something nearing porno), as well as *overly* violent scenes. The first Saw movie IIRC originally got slapped with NC-17 before it edited it, and even the South Park movie got NC-17 so it can be pretty weird at times.

At times excessive violence can get it too, but Dredd was pretty on level I think with what's allowed under R movies. Just for comparison, Looper also got an R here so it can be pretty broad as to what they consider to be "violent"- going from a couple of scenes to a whole movie.

I can't remember the last movie that got an NC-17 rating and stuck with it. Most movies that end up with that level usually appeal to MPAA and can lower it to R, either by convincing the board that their rating was incorrect or editing their film to remove more offensive parts.

This being said I'm not sure whether or not a more open rating could have helped Dredd. I know some movies in the past, like that one Die Hard movie, edited its content to get a PG-13 ranting while its DVD release was "uncut" and at an R with the reasoning it could get more people in the theater. I don't know if the same thing could work with Dredd, so I think when it comes to the success of the movie in the United States it wasn't hurt by its R rating. I remember when I was younger when I went with an older cousin to go see 300 (ugh), and there were plenty of people clearly under 17 there who got in either by going through the door or came legitimately with an older person.

My 2 cents is that honestly I think people weren't aware there was such a movie like Dredd, and for those that were, didn't seem to have their interest piqued by the trailers and other promotional material. And plus all the other numerous variables with film making, sometimes some variables are beyond your control.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 30 November, 2012, 11:27:05 AM
Wasn't Robocop an NC-17 because of violence?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 30 November, 2012, 11:43:57 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 29 November, 2012, 09:41:04 PM
No idea. Never seen Taken 2. The massive amount of racism in the first one was quite enough for me.

How dare you! Only a communist and/or homosexual and/or terrorist would dare to make such an insinuation. Why do you hate America, you commie terrorist poof?*

Love and kisses

Jim

*Probably a Muslim, too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 30 November, 2012, 11:44:38 AM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 29 November, 2012, 09:54:20 PM
Fair enough. Skim reading. Sorry.

No worries...!

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 30 November, 2012, 11:51:50 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 30 November, 2012, 11:43:57 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 29 November, 2012, 09:41:04 PM
No idea. Never seen Taken 2. The massive amount of racism in the first one was quite enough for me.

How dare you! Only a communist and/or homosexual and/or terrorist would dare to make such an insinuation. Why do you hate America, you commie terrorist poof?*

Love and kisses

Jim

*Probably a Muslim, too.

How dare you sir! I'm not a commie!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 30 November, 2012, 11:53:56 AM
Tbh I think Dredd could have scraped a 15 had it had a bigger studio behind it. There isn't anything particularly shocking in it, and a lot of the violence has a dreamlike quality that takes the edge off it. A lot of the reviews made much of the [spoiler]Mam-ma's exploding head scene[/spoiler], but in context it's weirdly beautiful and artful.

I think it was more the drugs and sexual content that pushed it into 18 territory.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 30 November, 2012, 11:54:11 AM
Quote from: radiator on 30 November, 2012, 11:27:05 AM
Wasn't Robocop an NC-17 because of violence?
If memory serves me correctly, the mpaa trimmed some violence to avoid an NC-17 and this was the R/18 that got released in US and UK cinemas.
The cut footage later turned up on the US unrated and the UK 18 cert DVD.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 30 November, 2012, 01:06:21 PM
The groin biting would have prevented the 15, IMHO.  Everything else MIGHT have passed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 November, 2012, 01:51:26 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 30 November, 2012, 01:06:21 PM
The groin biting would have prevented the 15, IMHO.

It was suggested rather than seen though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 30 November, 2012, 02:07:40 PM
I think if the skinning flashback hadn't been there it might have scraped a 15.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 30 November, 2012, 03:54:25 PM
Aside from the more graphic violence, stuff like headbutts and the throat chop, in Dredd, maybe would have been problematic. The UK censors baulked at owt like that - easily re-created violence.
Though hasnt a headbutt recently been re-instated back into one of the Star Wars prequels? As is often the case, over the years, stuff that would have earned an 'X' or an '18' cert, is now available to watch at a much lower rating.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 30 November, 2012, 04:12:46 PM
Agreed. 'Fantasy Violence' is alot more acceptable, you can decapitate any number of green blooded Orcs and walk away with a 12A rating, but god-forbid you headbutt a real person!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 November, 2012, 06:27:34 PM
Three more HQ stills for Goatyboard  :lol:
They were found in Karl Urban fan site...

(http://i.imgur.com/HaMsg.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/zgFxq.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/xQloQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklambo on 30 November, 2012, 06:58:09 PM
Something I've been working on....Hope you like....!....Elbow pads and knee pads still to be added...(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/nicklambo/IMG_0174.jpg)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/nicklambo/IMG_0183.jpg)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/nicklambo/IMG_0186.jpg)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/nicklambo/IMG_0184.jpg)

I am thinking of making these available...Ping me a PM if interested......These are made to order and fantastic quality... :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge macbrayne on 30 November, 2012, 07:26:55 PM
Quote from: nicklambo on 30 November, 2012, 06:58:09 PM
Something I've been working on....Hope you like....!....Elbow pads and knee pads still to be added...(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/nicklambo/IMG_0174.jpg)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/nicklambo/IMG_0183.jpg)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/nicklambo/IMG_0186.jpg)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/nicklambo/IMG_0184.jpg)

I am thinking of making these available...Ping me a PM if interested......These are made to order and fantastic quality... :D
VERY NICE :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 30 November, 2012, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: nicklambo on 30 November, 2012, 06:58:09 PM
Something I've been working on....Hope you like....!....Elbow pads and knee pads still to be added...(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/nicklambo/IMG_0174.jpg)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/nicklambo/IMG_0183.jpg)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/nicklambo/IMG_0186.jpg)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/nicklambo/IMG_0184.jpg)

I am thinking of making these available...Ping me a PM if interested......These are made to order and fantastic quality... :D
Why no like function?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 November, 2012, 07:37:42 PM
Ah, so finally we find out the identity of the 'Mr. Nick' who placed the order,


http://www.leathernext.com/details.php?j=152&t=Dredd%20Leather%20Suit
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 30 November, 2012, 07:46:49 PM
Quote from: radiator on 30 November, 2012, 11:53:56 AM
Tbh I think Dredd could have scraped a 15 had it had a bigger studio behind it. There isn't anything particularly shocking in it, and a lot of the violence has a dreamlike quality that takes the edge off it. A lot of the reviews made much of the [spoiler]Mam-ma's exploding head scene[/spoiler], but in context it's weirdly beautiful and artful.

I think it was more the drugs and sexual content that pushed it into 18 territory.
Yeah, I found Ma-ma's death strangely very tame. When I heard a description of someone falling head first into the camera in previews, I was thinking from an outside wide camera shot and not directly into the lens. I was expecting a slo-mo event that showed someone's had slowly hitting the concrete and exploding brain matter and skull all over the place. No such luck there, which was disappointing. I did find some scenes a bit shocking, though. The three bodies impacting on the ground after being thrown off the block at the start, and the flashback of them being skinned was very graphic. Brief, but still shocking.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 30 November, 2012, 07:48:50 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 November, 2012, 07:37:42 PM
Ah, so finally we find out the identity of the 'Mr. Nick' who placed the order, http://www.leathernext.com/details.php?j=152&t=Dredd%20Leather%20Suit

Give my regards to The Construction Worker and The Native American, Nick. Even more curious, Dredd's slow crawl around the world's cinemas seems to have taken it to Lagos - although Nigeria doesn't feature on IMDB's international release schedule for the film. I'm not sure we should expect any of these screenings to contribute to the film's profits:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/thread/206676824?d=207639721&p=1#207639721 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/thread/206676824?d=207639721&p=1#207639721)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 November, 2012, 07:55:54 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 30 November, 2012, 07:46:49 PM
I was expecting a slo-mo event that showed someone's had slowly hitting the concrete and exploding brain matter and skull all over the place. No such luck there, which was disappointing.


That's why it's so much better. I'm glad it showed me something I didn't expect and not something you'd see in a torture-porn film. It sublimated something horrible into something rewatchable and thoughtful. Why would I really want to see someone get accordioned into the concrete?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 30 November, 2012, 08:00:35 PM
Agree - I too read vague suggestions of someone hitting the concrete in slow motion, the camera not pulling away, and I must admit I thought "that sounds kind of disgusting, are they really going to show that?".

What we got in the film was spot on. Really well done I thought.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 30 November, 2012, 08:04:27 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 November, 2012, 07:55:54 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 30 November, 2012, 07:46:49 PM
I was expecting a slo-mo event that showed someone's had slowly hitting the concrete and exploding brain matter and skull all over the place. No such luck there, which was disappointing.


That's why it's so much better. I'm glad it showed me something I didn't expect and not something you'd see in a torture-porn film. It sublimated something horrible into something rewatchable and thoughtful. Why would I really want to see someone get accordioned into the concrete?
Just for the fact that it hadn't really been seen before. I was expecting this really shocking and gruesome scene by the way reviewers were describing it. I thought it was going to be one of the victims that got tossed off the tower at the start and that someone on the ground was doing slo-mo and they seen it from their perspective. Given that the teaser with the slo-mo bullet going through the face of someone was teased before reviews started hitting, I was expecting a level of violence I'd not seen before. Don't get me wrong, I thought the way it was done with Ma-Ma was excellent. That scene should have been shocking, but it was strangely very artistic. It was just the way reviewers painted it with words that gave me the false impression, and I was waiting for this gruesome event that never transpired. The thing is, the more controversy a film gathers with gruesome scenes, the more popular it becomes as people talk about it. Robocop had the ED-209 scene in the office where he blows someone away. People still talk about that today.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklambo on 30 November, 2012, 08:16:28 PM
Quote from: we are all roger godpleton on 30 November, 2012, 07:48:50 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 November, 2012, 07:37:42 PM
Ah, so finally we find out the identity of the 'Mr. Nick' who placed the order, http://www.leathernext.com/details.php?j=152&t=Dredd%20Leather%20Suit

Give my regards to The Construction Worker and The Native American, Nick. Even more curious, Dredd's slow crawl around the world's cinemas seems to have taken it to Lagos - although Nigeria doesn't feature on IMDB's international release schedule for the film. I'm not sure we should expect any of these screenings to contribute to the film's profits:

LOL....These leathers go under the armour you see on screen...check out the behind the scenes clip and you'll see that these are pretty close....armour to follow...!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/thread/206676824?d=207639721&p=1#207639721 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/thread/206676824?d=207639721&p=1#207639721)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 November, 2012, 08:31:13 PM


Is it the same fabricator making the pads and armour?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 November, 2012, 08:40:06 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 30 November, 2012, 08:04:27 PMJust for the fact that it hadn't really been seen before.



There is a music video by a metal band - made not too long before Dredd - that exactly portrays the event of a person falling from multi-storey and head crumpling on ground-impact in slow motion thing you expected; once you've seen it there's no reason to see it again.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 01 December, 2012, 02:51:28 AM
Those leathers are ace. B|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklambo on 01 December, 2012, 07:39:00 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 November, 2012, 08:31:13 PM


Is it the same fabricator making the pads and armour?


No...Everything else is being fabricated independently...helmet/lawgiver/armour/Pads/Belt etc....My aim is to get the most screen accurate DREDD 3D outfit I can...

Watch this space... :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 01 December, 2012, 11:07:39 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 30 November, 2012, 02:07:40 PM
I think if the skinning flashback hadn't been there it might have scraped a 15.

Twice wasn't it? Once was just about justifiable, twice made me feel a bit sullied.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judda fett on 01 December, 2012, 11:51:54 AM
Quote from: nicklambo on 01 December, 2012, 07:39:00 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 November, 2012, 08:31:13 PM


Is it the same fabricator making the pads and armour?


No...Everything else is being fabricated independently...helmet/lawgiver/armour/Pads/Belt etc....My aim is to get the most screen accurate DREDD 3D outfit I can...

Watch this space... :D

Good luck, you're well on your way.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklambo on 02 December, 2012, 02:54:01 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 November, 2012, 07:37:42 PM
Ah, so finally we find out the identity of the 'Mr. Nick' who placed the order,


http://www.leathernext.com/details.php?j=152&t=Dredd%20Leather%20Suit

Yup...make sure you mention Nick though on the order or contact me first and I will make sure you all get looked after... ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 02 December, 2012, 04:10:12 PM
Quote from: nicklambo on 01 December, 2012, 07:39:00 AM
Everything else is being fabricated independently...helmet/lawgiver/armour/Pads/Belt etc....My aim is to get the most screen accurate DREDD 3D outfit I can...

Sorry, Mr Nick, but someone's already beaten you to it. Absolutely everything about this costume is 100% movie-accurate. Except the wearer.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/flat/206084597 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/board/flat/206084597)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklambo on 02 December, 2012, 04:17:08 PM
Yeah....I have to say that it's pretty good but I have high expectations of what it being produced.....Unfortunately it is going to be Jan/Feb before updates....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 02 December, 2012, 06:19:35 PM
Helmet's too big.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 02 December, 2012, 06:24:06 PM
Quote from: Stan on 02 December, 2012, 06:19:35 PM
Helmet's too big.

Judge is too small: TAKE A LAW, SHORTY (http://media10.dropshots.com/photos/1052396/20121023/135853.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 02 December, 2012, 08:09:09 PM
I didn't know there were midget judges.  :lol:

There's something to be said for that outfit. You have to have a certain stature about you to pull it off properly otherwise don't bother.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 03 December, 2012, 01:27:25 PM
It's Judge Bean!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: LARF on 03 December, 2012, 02:28:40 PM
Jimp!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 03 December, 2012, 07:45:24 PM
It looks like the uniform's much closer to the camera than the model.

http://media9.dropshots.com/photos/1052396/20121023/135849.jpg (http://media9.dropshots.com/photos/1052396/20121023/135849.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 03 December, 2012, 09:51:24 PM
I think the main problem is that the model in question has completely the wrong size of head and lack of chin for such an ensemble. Find someone with a bigger head and it'd look great IMO.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 03 December, 2012, 10:19:54 PM
Great job on the outfit but flip me the person wearing the gear detracts from impact.
Reminds me of Holt from the Cleveland Show.  :lol:
(http://images.zap2it.com/images/tv-EP01059110/the-cleveland-show-jason-sudeikis.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 07 December, 2012, 05:31:52 PM
Empire have named Dredd as one of the best movie posters of 2012. Hard to disagree! http://www.empireonline.com/features/2012-posters/p7
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 December, 2012, 09:39:51 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/fOQKl.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 08 December, 2012, 09:49:01 AM
There was a talk last night on why Dredd didn't clear up at the box office :
(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/550608_490386047652032_1035942405_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 December, 2012, 10:28:40 AM
Also known as the Schneider equation.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 08 December, 2012, 11:42:06 AM
Quote from: Teivion on 08 December, 2012, 09:49:01 AM
There was a talk last night on why Dredd didn't clear up at the box office :
(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/550608_490386047652032_1035942405_n.jpg)
Thank goodness i wasn't drinking coffee when I saw this it didn't half make me laugh.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 08 December, 2012, 04:40:44 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 03 December, 2012, 07:45:24 PM
It looks like the uniform's much closer to the camera than the model.

http://media9.dropshots.com/photos/1052396/20121023/135849.jpg (http://media9.dropshots.com/photos/1052396/20121023/135849.jpg)

Looks like a bobble head.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 09 December, 2012, 05:31:41 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424830_463978143643309_1813079771_n.jpg)

Grumpy cat Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 10 December, 2012, 08:49:30 AM
That looks just like Commando FOrces.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 10 December, 2012, 04:49:07 PM
He is...the PAW!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 10 December, 2012, 05:45:00 PM
Iams the paw.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 10 December, 2012, 06:39:07 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 10 December, 2012, 05:45:00 PM
Iams the paw.

Ooh, two puns in three words - masterful!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 December, 2012, 07:00:40 PM




(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305987_518519174838602_880645047_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 10 December, 2012, 07:40:05 PM
Bang on time for me Birthday! :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 December, 2012, 07:44:10 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 10 December, 2012, 07:40:05 PM
Bang on time for me Birthday! :-)


If you live in the U.S.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 10 December, 2012, 07:46:39 PM
Shite! . . . whens the UK release!?  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 December, 2012, 07:51:44 PM
14th.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 December, 2012, 07:58:24 PM
This looks good ;)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/2000ad%20Sites/img054.jpg)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/img055.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 December, 2012, 08:15:49 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 10 December, 2012, 07:46:39 PM
Shite! . . . whens the UK release!?  :(



That's why Al Gore invented the internet.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 10 December, 2012, 08:49:07 PM
 :lol:
Cheers chaps, thats a further week of suspense to endure till the UK release.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 December, 2012, 08:57:08 PM

It gets full title too, Judge Dredd,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ86Y2QN5Ak&list=UUHqimTEADMCQbxJ_-Nvcglw&index=4

http://www.judge-dredd.jp/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 December, 2012, 09:00:16 PM
I liked that trailer :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 December, 2012, 09:04:15 PM
OOh I like that trailer! Love that ending with Dredd walking off!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 December, 2012, 09:08:01 PM


(http://imageshack.us/a/img846/3275/gurn.png)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 December, 2012, 09:13:29 PM


Paul Leonard-Morgan
Exciting news for Dredd 3D fans. We've managed to persuade the lovely record folk to let us give away an EXCLUSIVE, unreleased track from the score - the final "She's A Pass". Watch this space for details how to get it!




http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=375923989164241&id=188200017936640
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 December, 2012, 09:26:29 PM
Oh I miss Dredd!
This below is pure Dredd!

(http://i.imgur.com/ClfdR.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 10 December, 2012, 09:45:28 PM
That Hondo Cit' trailer is awesome. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 December, 2012, 10:49:32 PM
How could you not go and see a film with a trailer that cool?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 10 December, 2012, 10:54:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/l5OgL.jpg)

Definitely Blade Runner!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 December, 2012, 11:26:57 PM
That narrator is brilliant!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 11 December, 2012, 11:26:29 AM
It's a little flabby, but that edit is much better at showcasing the kind of hard-arses action film Dredd is. Fingers crossed it goes down well in Japan. (I imagine it'll sneak a couple of million, but here's hoping for some kind of quickfire 'everyone must see this' phenomenon that sometimes happens when that country really grabs on to something.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 11 December, 2012, 12:10:48 PM
I dunno, there were a lot of spoilers in that!  The exploding Judge head being one - the audience gasped in surprise and then laughed at each showing I was at.  That'll be missing for any Japanese filmgoers, due to it being in the trailer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 11 December, 2012, 12:13:49 PM
Interestingly it focuses on the energy of the film not the slomo. Good choice imo.

As for spoilers, maybe I dont pay enough attention but I've never thought in a film, oh I know whats going to happen next due to the trailer. (after the fact I usually make the connection)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 11 December, 2012, 12:18:59 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 11 December, 2012, 12:13:49 PM
Interestingly it focuses on the energy of the film not the slomo. Good choice imo.

As for spoilers, maybe I dont pay enough attention but I've never thought in a film, oh I know whats going to happen next due to the trailer. (after the fact I usually make the connection)

Yeah, hopefully that'll be the case for the folk in Japan.  Maybe I'm speaking from the viewpoint of someone who has seen the film 8 times, which kind of colours my opinion a bit!!   ;)

Roll on the 14th when I can see it another 8 times.  I intend to make this more watched in my household than Star Wars:  A New Hope.   :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strangelysaucy on 11 December, 2012, 04:55:48 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 11 December, 2012, 12:18:59 PM
I intend to make this more watched in my household than Star Wars:  A New Hope.   :D

Me too..and that's some serrrrrious viewing figures! however I'm willing to put in the hours :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zanti Misfit on 11 December, 2012, 09:31:29 PM
Sugoi!!
I want the free coasters!  In Japan, if you buy cinema tickets in advance, you usually get some special freebie and in this case, its the 3 Dredd coasters. The caption next to them reads "Judge needs break" :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 December, 2012, 09:46:02 PM
DROKK! Dredd coasters :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zanti Misfit on 11 December, 2012, 09:57:32 PM
I thought that would get your attention, CF!
'Judgi Doreddo Co-sta for your morning Synthi-Caff. :D  No idea how I will get these, but will try my contacts in Hondo Cit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 12 December, 2012, 09:38:21 AM
Isnt Mr Van Dom over there CF? Ask him nicely
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 December, 2012, 06:49:52 PM
Now there's a plan!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 13 December, 2012, 01:48:12 AM
It looks like the Russians almost got it for Chrimbo..
http://videsoon.com/dvd-release-date/dredd-3d-2012
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 13 December, 2012, 12:29:38 PM
Anyone have a zip file with all the best high quality pictures from the movie, I want to make them into a screensaver for my media center. High Definition if possible.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 13 December, 2012, 12:32:15 PM
Quote from: Stan on 13 December, 2012, 01:48:12 AM
It looks like the Russians almost got it for Chrimbo..
http://videsoon.com/dvd-release-date/dredd-3d-2012
Given that they celebrate Christmas on the 7th of January, they really did.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strangelysaucy on 13 December, 2012, 01:46:57 PM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 13 December, 2012, 12:29:38 PM
Anyone have a zip file with all the best high quality pictures from the movie, I want to make them into a screensaver for my media center. High Definition if possible.

if you pm me your email address I have saved the biggest res ones for posterity and can send em over for your perusal if you like?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 13 December, 2012, 04:17:47 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 13 December, 2012, 12:32:15 PM
Quote from: Stan on 13 December, 2012, 01:48:12 AM
It looks like the Russians almost got it for Chrimbo..
http://videsoon.com/dvd-release-date/dredd-3d-2012
Given that they celebrate Christmas on the 7th of January, they really did.

Aaaah. I was aware that Serbians celebrated Christmas on the wrong day but didn't realise it was a regional type thing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 13 December, 2012, 05:13:58 PM
Quote from: Stan on 13 December, 2012, 04:17:47 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 13 December, 2012, 12:32:15 PM
Quote from: Stan on 13 December, 2012, 01:48:12 AM
It looks like the Russians almost got it for Chrimbo..
http://videsoon.com/dvd-release-date/dredd-3d-2012
Given that they celebrate Christmas on the 7th of January, they really did.
Aaaah. I was aware that Serbians celebrated Christmas on the wrong day but didn't realise it was a regional type thing.
Inasmuch as any of it makes sense (or is remotely true), giving gifts on Twelfth night/Epiphany actually makes a lot of sense as it's the idea of the Magi bearing gifts which is being emulated I assume.

The Germans (and presumably other MittelEuropean types) have the main gift giving part of Christmas on the 24th.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 13 December, 2012, 05:38:06 PM
Icelanders do the same: dinner at 6pm on the 24th and gifts afterwards.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 December, 2012, 05:44:17 PM
QuoteThe Germans (and presumably other MittelEuropean types) have the main gift giving part of Christmas on the 24th.

ISTR from my time living there that they got their presents early December time - the 8th or 6th or something.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Third Estate Ned on 14 December, 2012, 03:59:40 PM
Here in northern Italy, which used to be Austria, the kids get gifts from the blind St. Lucy (13th Dec) and they leave out something to eat for the donkey she arrives on. That used to be the main seasonal gift giving day but Santa has swiped that honour in recent years. [topic]No chance of them seeing Dredd the movie here, though![/topic]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 December, 2012, 05:45:05 PM
A month today till Blu-ray of Dredd!! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 14 December, 2012, 07:23:34 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 14 December, 2012, 05:45:05 PM
A month today till Blu-ray of Dredd!! :)

Im not prepared to wait a month. I want it now!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 14 December, 2012, 08:13:03 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 14 December, 2012, 07:23:34 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 14 December, 2012, 05:45:05 PM
A month today till Blu-ray of Dredd!! :)

Im not prepared to wait a month. I want it now!!

Yeah, it's like waiting for the cinema release all over again!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 December, 2012, 11:16:48 PM
Should shaolin_monkey get first DVD in UK as he been see it 8 times at cinemas!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 December, 2012, 11:22:32 PM


I think the Sherman Kid has screenings in double figures.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 15 December, 2012, 02:58:27 AM
ive seen it 8 times,  kept all me tickets , but i think somebody on here has seen it 10 times
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 15 December, 2012, 07:06:36 AM
I made it to 9 cinema viewings and I can't wait to watch it on continual loop once it's released on January 14th! 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 December, 2012, 09:18:49 PM
6 here.. The last one was with my dad on the last day it was showing in the Netherlands..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 December, 2012, 11:05:57 PM
I only saw it once so the DVD is gonna get lasered to death.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 15 December, 2012, 11:10:54 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 14 December, 2012, 11:22:32 PM


I think the Sherman Kid has screenings in double figures.

Yeah, The Sherman Kid deserves the DVD, not just for the number of times he's seen the film, but also the number of times he photobombed at the preview screening!

Example:

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x32/scowling_monkey/8073d030848215f12e9095b9f535db4f.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 December, 2012, 12:15:23 AM
Or Goaty featured in the film 3 times :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 December, 2012, 01:58:23 AM
Was Goaty in the film? I remember quite clearly seeing Joe.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 16 December, 2012, 11:09:51 AM
Quote from: Stan on 16 December, 2012, 01:58:23 AM
Was Goaty in the film? I remember quite clearly seeing Joe.

I'm not sure - I don't think it's been mentioned yet...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 16 December, 2012, 11:53:08 AM
Quote from: Stan on 13 December, 2012, 04:17:47 PM

Aaaah. I was aware that Serbians celebrated Christmas on the wrong day but didn't realise it was a regional type thing.

The wrong day? No one has the right day...

I can't remember how many times I saw the film... Only 6 I think.

Quite looking forward to the blu-ray.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 16 December, 2012, 03:47:36 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 15 December, 2012, 11:10:54 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 14 December, 2012, 11:22:32 PM


I think the Sherman Kid has screenings in double figures.

Yeah, The Sherman Kid deserves the DVD, not just for the number of times he's seen the film, but also the number of times he photobombed at the preview screening!

Example:

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x32/scowling_monkey/8073d030848215f12e9095b9f535db4f.jpg)

Alex only looks mildly uncomfortable! You're getting better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 December, 2012, 07:33:14 PM
That's not bad.

(http://i.imgur.com/eilq7.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/lELUT.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 16 December, 2012, 07:34:22 PM
Thanks MVK!  :D

Re that Japanese (?) trailer for the movie, I took the kids to Tenkaichi, a fantastic noodle bar in Cardiff, for sushi yesterday afternoon.  I was wearing that Steve Dillon Dredd t-shirt.  There were 8 Japanese teenagers sat next to us chatting away quietly in their language.  Then one excitedly exclaimed 'ah - Judgo Dredah' (like it sounded in the trailer anyway) and the next thing I knew there was an explosion of excited conversation, presumably about the film. 

So yeah, we can cross our fingers for successful screenings in Japan!  :D


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 December, 2012, 08:07:45 PM
If only you'd been wearing your uniform...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 December, 2012, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 16 December, 2012, 11:53:08 AM
The wrong day? No one has the right day...

It is wrong and against Jesus.
Quote from: strontium71 on 16 December, 2012, 11:09:51 AM
I'm not sure - I don't think it's been mentioned yet...

Trollol

Nice pics though, Goaty. :-D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 December, 2012, 09:00:20 PM
Wait. Is that Japanese or Korean?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 December, 2012, 09:40:53 PM
Quote from: Stan on 16 December, 2012, 09:00:20 PM
Wait. Is that Japanese or Korean?



It's Japanese.


http://www.judge-dredd.jp/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 December, 2012, 09:46:33 PM


(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A9_G_-4CYAA2L-g.jpg:large)


(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A9_E_s2CUAAZCqc.jpg:large)



http://togetter.com/li/422691
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 December, 2012, 09:54:01 PM
Thanks. Usually I can tell but something put a little doubt in my mind.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 December, 2012, 10:02:03 PM
Twinned with Judge Burdis.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 17 December, 2012, 12:23:10 AM
Loving these Japanese sites and posters for Dredd.
As with those German language clips from a while ago, sometimes the overseas versions take something cool and make it that little bit cooler.

(http://i.imgur.com/yUH0r.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 17 December, 2012, 11:39:04 AM
I should imagine Japan has always had a market for Dredd at least, the cynical, brutal tone is very much in keeping with some of the more popular teenage-adult manga such as Great Teacher Onizuka or Gantz. Even Death Note has tone's of Dredd plasterd all over it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zanti Misfit on 17 December, 2012, 07:09:09 PM
Here's hoping Dredd is a hit in Japan (or at least finds a cult following).

RE; The Japanese fella in the black helmet, suit and tie:

I think this is a PR person for the film.
The first pic is inspired by the recent election over there. In Japan, all the political candidates go on the telly to make an address to the general public and talk about their 'pledge', looking very much like this (minus helmet, of course).

Japanese political party's names always end with ' toh' or ' doh'. So his name sign says 'Judge Dredd-Doh',(nowt to do with Homer Simpson), which is the Japanese way of pronouncing our beloved lawman's name.

He really shouldn't smile though!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 17 December, 2012, 08:17:49 PM
Pshaw. Judge Pal can do it, sure our man in Hondo can.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zanti Misfit on 17 December, 2012, 10:02:24 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 17 December, 2012, 08:17:49 PM
Pshaw. Judge Pal can do it, sure our man in Hondo can.

  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 17 December, 2012, 10:28:16 PM
Quote from: Zanti Misfit on 17 December, 2012, 10:02:24 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 17 December, 2012, 08:17:49 PM
Pshaw. Judge Pal can do it, sure our man in Hondo can.

  :lol:

Your quote is Justice Department Approved!

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x32/scowling_monkey/7c1c37ece869de64cc871a1c93efd756.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 17 December, 2012, 10:33:40 PM
Shouldn't that be Judge Claypole.
Where's Dobbin.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 17 December, 2012, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 17 December, 2012, 10:33:40 PM
Shouldn't that be Judge Claypole.
Where's Dobbin.

Hahahaha! Brilliant! I line 'em up, you knock 'em down.   :lol:

Dan, new badge order incoming!!!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 17 December, 2012, 10:39:13 PM
Rent-a-Pal...

Crickey, a whole different meaning. I bet my fiends dad would have something to say about that...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 17 December, 2012, 10:43:37 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 17 December, 2012, 10:39:13 PM
Rent-a-Pal...

Crickey, a whole different meaning. I bet my fiends dad would have something to say about that...

Judge Pal is available for parole hearings, Zizzers Anonymous meets, and children's parties.  Dobbin is extra.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 17 December, 2012, 10:57:33 PM
If your apartment blocks needs blitzing just call Rent-a-Pal
We nark kooks and juves and spugs and ghouls at Rent-a-Pal
Hear the Phantom of the Shoppera sing a haunting melody 
Remember what you see is not brutality but Rent-a-Pal

:D

So, er... Yeah.  Dredd in Japan!  Should be great!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zanti Misfit on 18 December, 2012, 06:31:40 AM
If nothing else, Dredd's success in the far East might inspire Japanese females to forsake Sailor Moon and Gothic Lolita styles in favour of a full-on Judge-Inspector Inaba cosplay outfit.  Now that's something I'd really like to see! ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 18 December, 2012, 11:03:04 AM
Quote from: Zanti Misfit on 18 December, 2012, 06:31:40 AM
If nothing else, Dredd's success in the far East might inspire Japanese females to forsake Sailor Moon and Gothic Lolita styles in favour of a full-on Judge-Inspector Inaba cosplay outfit.  Now that's something I'd really like to see! ;)
THIS! Sweet zombie jesus THIS!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zanti Misfit on 18 December, 2012, 08:05:12 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 18 December, 2012, 11:03:04 AM
Quote from: Zanti Misfit on 18 December, 2012, 06:31:40 AM
If nothing else, Dredd's success in the far East might inspire Japanese females to forsake Sailor Moon and Gothic Lolita styles in favour of a full-on Judge-Inspector Inaba cosplay outfit.  Now that's something I'd really like to see! ;)
THIS! Sweet zombie jesus THIS!

Hawkmonger, my comment made you go crazy, so sorry. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 18 December, 2012, 08:21:41 PM
Quote from: Zanti Misfit on 18 December, 2012, 08:05:12 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 18 December, 2012, 11:03:04 AM
Quote from: Zanti Misfit on 18 December, 2012, 06:31:40 AM
If nothing else, Dredd's success in the far East might inspire Japanese females to forsake Sailor Moon and Gothic Lolita styles in favour of a full-on Judge-Inspector Inaba cosplay outfit.  Now that's something I'd really like to see! ;)
THIS! Sweet zombie jesus THIS!

Hawkmonger, my comment made you go crazy, so sorry. ;)
Got a thing for hot Japanese chicks. Cosplay one as Inaba and my right hand will have a field day!*


*I'm going to stop the gross comments now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zanti Misfit on 18 December, 2012, 09:35:37 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 18 December, 2012, 08:21:41 PM
Quote from: Zanti Misfit on 18 December, 2012, 08:05:12 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 18 December, 2012, 11:03:04 AM
Quote from: Zanti Misfit on 18 December, 2012, 06:31:40 AM
If nothing else, Dredd's success in the far East might inspire Japanese females to forsake Sailor Moon and Gothic Lolita styles in favour of a full-on Judge-Inspector Inaba cosplay outfit.  Now that's something I'd really like to see! ;)
THIS! Sweet zombie jesus THIS!

Hawkmonger, my comment made you go crazy, so sorry. ;)
Got a thing for hot Japanese chicks. Cosplay one as Inaba and my right hand will have a field day!*


*I'm going to stop the gross comments now.

Hot Japanese chicks (cosplayed or not) are also my thing (just ask Mrs Zanti Misfit), so I see where you are coming from.  Gross comments are more than welcome, don't stop, but all this rampant Japanophilia may alienate other boarders. :D  Apologies, fellow Dredd fans.  Domo Arigato.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zanti Misfit on 19 December, 2012, 06:50:30 AM
A Japanese Judge Dredd: (sort of..)
http://chaostangent.com/2012/12/a-japanese-judge-dredd/

Mostly of interest to Anime fans, methinks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 19 December, 2012, 10:06:59 PM
First of the high quality torrents starting to leak out now.  >:(
Source looks to be Korean.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strangelysaucy on 19 December, 2012, 10:23:49 PM
christ, doesn't take long does it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 December, 2012, 10:33:22 PM
Quote from: strangelysaucy on 19 December, 2012, 10:23:49 PM
christ, doesn't take long does it!


I'm surprised it took as long as it did.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 19 December, 2012, 10:46:42 PM
I imagine this has been posted already, but here's the VAM on the home release, along with running times:


00:01:51:06
    DREDD
00:03:22:14
    DREDD (2012 AD THE ORIGINS)
00:02:29:15
    DREDD (DREDD'S GEAR)
00:01:57:19
    DREDD (THE 3RD DIMENSION)
00:25:39:20
    DREDD INTERVIEW SOUNDBITES
00:02:08:05
    DREDD (SLO-MO)
00:02:31:00
    DREDD (WELCOME TO PEACHTREES)

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 December, 2012, 11:20:42 PM
Hey look at that, they changed the facebook page back to Dredd instead of Dredd 3D.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 December, 2012, 11:25:17 PM
Also regarding the torrents, I think it did pretty well for a decent copy to not appear before now. At least more people will see it, then see what they missed out on by not going to the cinema.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 December, 2012, 09:05:37 PM
Finally managed to see this after missing it on every drokkin' screening

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A-quh6XCEAM-ptc.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 22 December, 2012, 12:43:21 AM
Why Starlord?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 December, 2012, 02:36:51 AM
Me and Steve Green were having a chat earlier and we couldn't come up with a reason either!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 22 December, 2012, 08:38:33 AM
I'm taking it as to referring to Kelvin Gosnell as the editor of StarLord who had an input into some of the elements of 2000ad, ie. Tharg.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 22 December, 2012, 10:45:58 AM
Might it be a nod to Alex -- or whoever -- having early memories of the prog when it was "2000AD and Starlord"...?

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 22 December, 2012, 11:56:11 AM
Did Alex get into the prog via Starlord? A good many people, i guess, would have.
Certainly Starlord was more impressive looking. Better paper, more colour pages etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 22 December, 2012, 01:03:17 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 December, 2012, 09:05:37 PM
Finally managed to see this after missing it on every drokkin' screening
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A-quh6XCEAM-ptc.jpg)


The 2000A.D Forum... that's us everybody.. >sniff<... don't it make ya proud!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: auxlen on 27 December, 2012, 08:41:52 AM
even though i have no proof...just the merest hint of a possibility that a Dredd post of mine might have been read or mentioned in a meeting somewhere even if they poo-pooed it as ludicrous or the ramblings of a moron is awesome.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 27 December, 2012, 10:39:20 AM
That looks like Chris Cunningham of Mean Machine fame in the thank you list if I'm not mistaken.
Why is he referenced?
Also he made some of the most f'ed up videos imaginable but brilliant, he's fallen completely off the radar now. What is he up to these days?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 December, 2012, 12:10:35 PM
Not long till Blu-Ray! Double Xmas for me! :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dodsy on 27 December, 2012, 12:45:52 PM
The blu-rey is only £13 on Amazon! (That's the 3D one as well).

Has anyone found it cheaper?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 December, 2012, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 27 December, 2012, 10:39:20 AM
That looks like Chris Cunningham of Mean Machine fame in the thank you list if I'm not mistaken.
Why is he referenced?


I think he might be a mate. Also may have helped on the uniform front since he fabricated bits of the '95 version.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 27 December, 2012, 03:45:45 PM
I have literally just set up my brand new 32" 3D telly, ahead of the release in 3 weeks. First thing I did? Watched the HD trailer via the YouTube app - ooh, shivers!!  Getting excited all over again!   :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 27 December, 2012, 04:14:32 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 27 December, 2012, 03:45:45 PM
I have literally just set up my brand new 32" 3D telly, ahead of the release in 3 weeks. First thing I did? Watched the HD trailer via the YouTube app - ooh, shivers!!  Getting excited all over again!   :D


:thumbsup:  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 27 December, 2012, 04:54:22 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 27 December, 2012, 04:14:32 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 27 December, 2012, 03:45:45 PM
I have literally just set up my brand new 32" 3D telly, ahead of the release in 3 weeks. First thing I did? Watched the HD trailer via the YouTube app - ooh, shivers!!  Getting excited all over again!   :D


:thumbsup:  :)

The TV can do this thing where it tries to convert 2D images into 3D. Tried it on the trailer - Mind. Blown.  :o. It looked amazing!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 28 December, 2012, 09:39:43 AM
seriously, the amount of friends who have said to me this week 'saw Dredd the other day, its amazing' has bugged the hell out of me. If its amazing buy it as well as downloading it you freetards.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zanti Misfit on 28 December, 2012, 10:04:32 AM
A friend at works adores sci fi and violent action films.  Since Septemeber, I've insisted how brilliant Dredd is, and that I was convinced he'd really love it.  Well, he saw half of it the other day, but fell asleep and described it as 'boring'. :o
Youngsters, eh?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 28 December, 2012, 10:44:29 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 28 December, 2012, 09:39:43 AM
seriously, the amount of friends who have said to me this week 'saw Dredd the other day, its amazing' has bugged the hell out of me. If its amazing buy it as well as downloading it you freetards.

Yeah, I had to work very hard not to berate a friend of mine last night, who was so keen to tell me how much he enjoyed the illegally downloaded copy he got over Xmas.  I told him through gritted teeth I was waiting for the Blu-Ray release so I could support the film in a last desperate bid for a sequel.  He was shocked when I told him the extent it bombed in the cinema.  Oh, the irony.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 December, 2012, 12:15:08 PM
Oh well, more fools of them.

And many reasons why I am looking forward to Blu-Ray and one is the bloody SUBTITLED! Can't drokking wait!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 28 December, 2012, 01:03:37 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 28 December, 2012, 12:15:08 PM
Oh well, more fools of them.

And many reasons why I am looking forward to Blu-Ray and one is the bloody SUBTITLED! Can't drokking wait!

Excellent!  So you finally get to see Lex's monologue to the wounded Dredd before Anderson shoots him!  If it hasn't been spoiled for you already, you're in for a treat - in my opinion it's one of the best scenes in the film. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 December, 2012, 02:11:09 PM
It's jumped up to 11 on the IMDb movie meter thing, and this is before the US release as well so I guess that means a lot of people are seeing it on a pirate version. It's got a ton more votes for it's rating too, and if you think about it, most people who see a film probably don't rate it on IMDb so that ends up being quite a hefty number of extra people who have now seen it.

But, it's still got the actual dvd release and netflix so it should still make some money. Hopefully.

I was thinking that at least all these people seeing it would help it's longevity, and could warrant a special edition down the line, but with everything becoming on-demand these days I don't think collector's editions will be worth doing for much longer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 December, 2012, 03:03:23 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 28 December, 2012, 01:03:37 PM
Excellent!  So you finally get to see Lex's monologue to the wounded Dredd before Anderson shoots him!  If it hasn't been spoiled for you already, you're in for a treat - in my opinion it's one of the best scenes in the film.

Oh yes!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 28 December, 2012, 04:02:51 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 28 December, 2012, 10:44:29 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 28 December, 2012, 09:39:43 AM
seriously, the amount of friends who have said to me this week 'saw Dredd the other day, its amazing' has bugged the hell out of me. If its amazing buy it as well as downloading it you freetards.

Yeah, I had to work very hard not to berate a friend of mine last night, who was so keen to tell me how much he enjoyed the illegally downloaded copy he got over Xmas.  I told him through gritted teeth I was waiting for the Blu-Ray release so I could support the film in a last desperate bid for a sequel.  He was shocked when I told him the extent it bombed in the cinema.  Oh, the irony.

Oooooh, when I get back to the Diff, we're gonna go chat with 'im..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 28 December, 2012, 04:17:39 PM
Quote from: Zanti Misfit on 28 December, 2012, 10:04:32 AM
A friend at works adores sci fi and violent action films.  Since Septemeber, I've insisted how brilliant Dredd is, and that I was convinced he'd really love it.  Well, he saw half of it the other day, but fell asleep and described it as 'boring'. :o
Youngsters, eh?
I've a mate that did the exact same thing. He said it was a let down and had turned it off with about half an hour left of it to go. He then tells me that Dredd was good himself, and that he liked the story and the look of the film, but then said about "the tough rookie cop" load of bollox as he put it. So, he basically got the gist of what Dredd was aiming for with Dredd himself being the anti-hero and Anderson being the tough woman role that doesn't need saving, which is exactly her character anyway. He then texts me later to say that he has the other half hour on. It was such a disappointment that he had to go back and finish it off, eh.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 December, 2012, 04:36:30 PM
It's kind of a double edged sword. On the one hand you'd hope there's aren't too many lost DVD sales with people watching it early on the internet, but on the other it's also helpful to have more positive word of mouth coming in just before the release (which is the reaction I've seen by a long chalk). My brain doesn't really have the computing power to figure out whether it'll have an overall positive or negative effect. I'm thinking it'll be close to even or a little under.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 28 December, 2012, 04:37:14 PM
Word of warning to those considering buying the French collectors edition of the Dredd Blu Ray - it's a metal case rather than a steelbook, the text on the spine will probably go the wrong way up if its there at all (exactly the sort of thing that would bother the sort of person who collects steelbooks!) and apparently French discs usually have hard subtitles (as in ones you can't switch off).

Apparently play.com are 'considering' a UK Dredd steelbook, and a German steelbook is quite likely, but we'll find out in March when it comes out there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 28 December, 2012, 04:39:03 PM
HMV have been steelbooking a lot of releases recently so its possible they might with this one
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 December, 2012, 04:39:55 PM
I think I'd actually like to watch the German version without subs. It's not like any of us wouldn't know what they're saying anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 28 December, 2012, 05:12:47 PM
Think ill buy whatever Blu-Ray is on the shelf in HMV on the release day, but i would like one of those Steelbooks for Dredd.
Do Steelbook versions usually come out on the first day of release, or do they tend to come out slightly later?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 28 December, 2012, 06:17:25 PM
Both.

Generally I only buy old favourites that are reissued with a steelbook, like Total Recall (1990), Akira  and The Terminator - films that I genuinely love and will watch over and over again, but lots of new releases get them too - even the bloody Sweeney is getting a steelbook edition. I make exceptions for newer films like The Raid which has insanely gorgeously designed packaging.

As I understand it, Play.com do loads of exclusive steelbooks for films from the Universal and Paramount studios, while HMV do likewise for iirc Studio Canal and Lionsgate.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 28 December, 2012, 06:34:48 PM
Steelbooks do look the biz, dont they. But ive seen very few of them, if any, on the shelves at HMV, so im guessing they sell out quickly.
But as one of my mates works in the stockroom at HMV... jobs a good 'un - hopefully!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 December, 2012, 06:35:28 PM
Someone's put the ending scene up on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuMUIOROhQM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuMUIOROhQM)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zanti Misfit on 28 December, 2012, 08:24:43 PM
Wow!  I've forgotton how trippy, dream-like and surreal it all is. (beautiful, too.) Can't wait for the Blu-Ray. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 December, 2012, 08:49:54 PM
They could've waited a week.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 28 December, 2012, 11:23:50 PM
Someone popped up on my timeline an hour ago saying how awesome Dredd was, as well as Looper. The only possible way they could've seen it was via illegal download. Now it's an instance like this, with Dredd, that we all feel how frustrating this torrent business is when it comes to a movie that deserved to to better at the box office, but didn't, and is now effectively being thieved (arguably due to poor timing on the DVD sales..). Agree with me or not, it prompted me to post the following status update:

Here's the thing, guys.. I've started to see from a few sources that people are seeing Dredd via torrent downloads. It's great that they're all enjoying it, but.. Dredd failed to reach its box office targets (it made just shy of $31 million, for it's $45 million budget). For whatever reason this may be, from the US market not understanding who the character is, the 18 rating, to arguably piss poor marketing. But there's a lot of people who were hoping to see a sequel happen straight off the bat. This means that the production would most likely come back to where it was made, which is Cape Town Film Studios. Movie making is a business like any other. It's there to make money. If someone doesn't buy a product, then the person selling it will stop making said product and sell something else. As far as the investors go, a torrented movie doesn't bring in any revenue. So if, say, 1000 people who've seen the movie, only 600 have seen it by purchasing a movie ticket, dvd or rental, and the minimum required for a sequel was 750 people, then they say fuck it, we didn't get our investment and profit off of this, we're not going to do THAT again. This means that the movie WON'T get a sequel, which WON'T come back to South Africa, which then WON'T employ several hundreds of local artists and crafts people.

With a movie like The Avengers, which has a PG13 rating, several other movies leading up to it all with massively popular well known characters and massive merchandising potential, they're going to make their money back in spades, and won't be as hurt by torrents. But a smaller, independent film like Dredd, it gets a savage kicking if the same number of people who torrented The Avengers do the same to Dredd. People can have that attitude that the distributors and studios get all the money, which, ultimately is true. But they're also the people who fund what comes next. So if you're fed up with crap like Beverly Hills chihuahua or some lame umpteenth sequel movie about dancing flashmobs full of angsty teen douchebags, have missed the movie at the theatre (because the experience is awful or you never got the chance) then at least wait until it hits the rental/purchase circuit.

I'm not directing this at a single individual, it's a rant about what ultimately happens if people essentially can't be arsed to spend less than the cost of three king steer burger combo meals for a DVD copy in their droves. A single drop of water doesn't do any harm, but a rain storm washes away villages.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 28 December, 2012, 11:27:54 PM
FYI, a King Steer combo meal is a combo meal from a South African fast food chain. It costs R65, which is about £4.70.. An average DVD on new release would cost in the R150 to R200 (£11 to £15) range..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 December, 2012, 11:31:02 PM
(http://www.jonathanferraragallery.com/dynamic/images/detail/David_Buckingham_FORGET_IT_JAKE_ITS_CHINATOWN_4545_395.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 December, 2012, 01:39:54 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 28 December, 2012, 11:23:50 PM
Agree with me or not, it prompted me to post the following status update:


(http://www.pammarketingnut.com/wp-content/uploads/iStock_000014250706XSmall.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 29 December, 2012, 07:06:41 AM
Nice one Michaelvk!

Couldn't agree more!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 December, 2012, 09:03:26 AM
No part of that I disagree with, Michael. Well put.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 December, 2012, 04:27:22 PM



(http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/rkt/MEDIUM//44/56/4456056.jpg)



Dredd Downunder (http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/dvd/dvd-genres/action-adventure/dredd-3d-blu-ray/678319)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 December, 2012, 04:29:38 PM
Damn Aussies to get that! Awesome cover!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 December, 2012, 04:38:39 PM
So that's another one to order :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 29 December, 2012, 07:23:24 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 29 December, 2012, 04:29:38 PM
Damn Aussies to get that! Awesome cover!

Be interesting to compare ALL the versions once they've landed. But that is lovely, isnt it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 29 December, 2012, 08:36:44 PM
It's all up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uasHsRmhlL8
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 29 December, 2012, 08:37:41 PM
Nice. Be interesting to see if that's a steelbook or just a card slipcase.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 29 December, 2012, 08:39:12 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 29 December, 2012, 08:36:44 PM
It's all up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uasHsRmhlL8

Seriously - what the fuck is wrong with people?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DrRocka on 29 December, 2012, 08:44:30 PM
Hawkmonger, no offense to you mate but I think that link's taking the piss a bit, in light of what Micheal just said.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 December, 2012, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: DrRocka on 29 December, 2012, 08:44:30 PM
Hawkmonger, no offense to you mate but I think that link's taking the piss a bit, in light of what Micheal just said.

I agree.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 29 December, 2012, 08:49:16 PM
hawkmunger you found it on you tbe - have you  contacted the correct authorities to get it removed

everyone please report  this channel

M7HDMovies   get him off you tube please
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 December, 2012, 08:55:17 PM
Bloody Nora. I got my account canned for uploading minute-long clips here and there and this guy can show full movies without anyone but the copyright holder being able to flag him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 29 December, 2012, 09:02:05 PM
ive just tried to put in a complaint to you tube but they only  let the copyright holder do this  we have to contact rebellion or   whoever     aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargghhh   can some one get this off you tube
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 29 December, 2012, 09:16:24 PM
this guy on you tube is ridiculous im not 1 for scanning for illegal movies on you tube..  didnt think it was this   well ABUSED ... think you tube should be held responsible for this
i mean this guy has  a few full movies online   
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge macbrayne on 29 December, 2012, 09:18:52 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 December, 2012, 01:39:54 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 28 December, 2012, 11:23:50 PM
Agree with me or not, it prompted me to post the following status update:


(http://www.pammarketingnut.com/wp-content/uploads/iStock_000014250706XSmall.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 29 December, 2012, 10:28:27 PM
Yeah, I reported it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 29 December, 2012, 11:09:05 PM
I just want to clarify that this was reccomended to me on my YT page. I watch alot of low-budget Italian and exploitation films, many of which are only viewable by YT because they will never make it to DVD let alone BD. Dredd is not one of those movies, and i've reported the chap for infringing copyright.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 29 December, 2012, 11:13:47 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 28 December, 2012, 11:27:54 PM
FYI, a King Steer combo meal is a combo meal from a South African fast food chain.

Want one,what do you get?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 December, 2012, 11:15:28 PM

If you want to report these things it's Lionsgate you need to contact as they own world-wide rights to the film.




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 December, 2012, 11:38:33 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 29 December, 2012, 11:09:05 PM
I just want to clarify that this was reccomended to me on my YT page. I watch alot of low-budget Italian and exploitation films, many of which are only viewable by YT because they will never make it to DVD let alone BD. Dredd is not one of those movies, and i've reported the chap for infringing copyright.

I'm not sure anyone was preaching. I think it was more the fact that you posted the link. Though in all honesty, if you were going to post it anywhere then here was probably the best place. We're all paying customers anyway, and also the one group who'd like to see the vid killed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 29 December, 2012, 11:45:24 PM
Youtube is a joke these days. It's fine to show a bit of genocide, a bit of ultra violence and whatnot, but show a tit on your channel, and your channel gets canned quickly. Best thing to do is flag the video for graphic sexual content and they won't be too long checking it out. Also leave the twat who owns that channel a threatening message and he might cream himself into removing it. 12,000 views already. At least half a dozen or more potential DVD sales down the tubes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 December, 2012, 11:58:23 PM

It's a crap quality download in the wrong aspect ratio.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 30 December, 2012, 01:02:04 AM
emailed lionsgate also  thanks Joe
i emailed the user on you tube and he doesnt think he's doing anything wrong.. He said he bought the dvd so he can post it on you tube as he ownes it    !!!!!


please more people hassle him     M7HDMovies  ....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 30 December, 2012, 10:40:40 AM
Quote from: junox on 30 December, 2012, 01:02:04 AMHe said he bought the dvd so he can post it on you tube as he ownes it

Given that it hasn't been released yet, presumably that's a lie...

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 30 December, 2012, 10:44:17 AM
Quote from: junox on 30 December, 2012, 01:02:04 AM
He said he bought the dvd so he can post it on you tube as he ownes it    !!!!!

Jovus wept.  I have all sorts of trouble with the complexities of IP and digital media ownership and fair-use, but this sort of thing just makes me despair...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 30 December, 2012, 11:31:39 AM
Don't some people claim it's for Artistic/Educational issues and are therefore entitled to release said Movie forthwith since it is a Educational tool for Film Students to use. They cagely release the flick in just 360 rez so if the Lawyers come calling they can claim it's not the 'full HD Movie' but a reference source as exemption.

Bit's from 'The Thing' [2012] version kept appearing on You tube and the Guy who put it up put this Educational defence forward since he was some sort of Media Student. Can't remember if it got taken down in the end or not.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 30 December, 2012, 01:02:31 PM
There's not really any excuse for this. Uploading the entire film would not be covered by fair use, and if the guy's arguing he owns the DVD (unlikely, as Jim said), he wouldn't have the right to upload it anyway, since unauthorised distribution breaks the terms and conditions on the original media.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 30 December, 2012, 01:08:34 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 30 December, 2012, 01:02:31 PM
There's not really any excuse for this. Uploading the entire film would not be covered by fair use, and if the guy's arguing he owns the DVD (unlikely, as Jim said), he wouldn't have the right to upload it anyway, since unauthorised distribution breaks the terms and conditions on the original media.

Also, it's plainly wrong.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 30 December, 2012, 03:18:48 PM
 :think: Yes I thought it seemed a bit of a dodge to claim your doing it for 'Educational reasons' but apparently that's what some uploaders are/were claiming. Naughty.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 30 December, 2012, 06:46:58 PM
Did anyone recognise the songs Ginger Kid™ was listening to?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 30 December, 2012, 06:47:44 PM
Theme from snuff box, by Matt Berry.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 30 December, 2012, 06:53:36 PM
Aaah, thanks. I did wonder if it was the same song repeated twice but couldn't remember.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 31 December, 2012, 03:16:47 AM
Quite surprised that the votes on IMDb look to have almost doubled before the dvd is out. That's a lot more then I was expecting from the torrents.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 31 December, 2012, 10:12:03 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 29 December, 2012, 11:13:47 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 28 December, 2012, 11:27:54 PM
FYI, a King Steer combo meal is a combo meal from a South African fast food chain.

Want one,what do you get?

This:
(http://www.steers.co.za/images/home/OriginalKingSteer_Combo.jpg)

The burger is big, but it's a burger is a burger is a burger. Nothing too spectacular there. Nice enough.. But the chips!! My Grud, those are THE best you get in the world.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 31 December, 2012, 10:32:52 AM
Guarenteed Heart attack in a single serving. :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 31 December, 2012, 12:45:25 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ADMxT.jpg)

The pics aint the best, but is the graffiti another tribute for Mr Goaty?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 December, 2012, 05:24:20 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 31 December, 2012, 12:45:25 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ADMxT.jpg)

The pics aint the best, but is the graffiti another tribute for Mr Goaty?

Thanks Judge Jack! It's could be it, or another text graffiti we hadn't notice till Blu-Ray! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 December, 2012, 05:29:02 PM
No!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Trout on 31 December, 2012, 05:53:24 PM
Could be. Goaty's got his name in so many places, they should change its name to Dredd 3D: Featuring Goaty!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 31 December, 2012, 06:16:25 PM
More like Goaty, featuring Judge Dredd..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 December, 2012, 06:21:08 PM
Aww but I am still waiting to see if Goaty featured in 2000AD, that would be my dream!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 31 December, 2012, 07:17:56 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 31 December, 2012, 06:16:25 PM
More like Goaty, featuring Judge Dredd..

:-D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 31 December, 2012, 09:23:16 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 31 December, 2012, 06:16:25 PM
More like GoatSy, featuring Judge Dredd..
I had to.

I to am multi-regional, and have the French tin on pre-order and will look into the Aussie disk when more come's out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Trout on 31 December, 2012, 09:32:27 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 31 December, 2012, 06:21:08 PM
Aww but I am still waiting to see if Goaty featured in 2000AD, that would be my dream!

The campaign begins here!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 December, 2012, 10:34:23 PM



Scamps,


Students steal 'Dredd' helmet on display at GV (http://vivocityhttp://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/stomp/sgseen/caught_in_the_act/1329066/helmet_on_display_at_gv_vivo_gets_stolen_by_students.html)


(http://static.stomp.com.sg/site/servlet/linkableblob/stomp/1329662/data/dredd4jpg1348219575308-data.jpg)

(http://static.stomp.com.sg/site/servlet/linkableblob/stomp/1329656/data/dredd1jpg1348219572308-data.jpg)
(http://static.stomp.com.sg/site/servlet/linkableblob/stomp/1329256/data/dredd_mainjpg1348208957867-data.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 31 December, 2012, 11:01:48 PM
BASTARDS! No seriesly, how do you think you can get away with that? Sniffer dog's Burdis and Welles will be on the case.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 December, 2012, 11:04:27 PM
Students will do anything for £50 ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 31 December, 2012, 11:21:29 PM
That's an odd looking crest.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 December, 2012, 11:28:39 PM


(http://imageshack.us/a/img22/8712/auxp.jpg)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 31 December, 2012, 11:41:32 PM
Yeah, they can keep it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 31 December, 2012, 11:45:42 PM
With a lick of paint and a replacement badge it'd be pretty good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 December, 2012, 11:47:44 PM
Nice flasher mac :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 01 January, 2013, 12:00:32 AM
Aaaaaah..

Definitely needs to be a skull next time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 01 January, 2013, 02:43:31 AM
Quote from: Supermarine Troutfire on 31 December, 2012, 05:53:24 PM
Could be. Goaty's got his name in so many places, they should change its name to Dredd 3D: Featuring Goaty!
Jesus you could nearly start turning this into a drinking game at this stage. Take a shot for every Goaty reference in DREDD. We're only jealous!  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 January, 2013, 09:52:30 PM
Well, here the better way,
Take a shot for every 2000AD Forum members reference in DREDD.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 01 January, 2013, 09:55:36 PM
Given that the entire forum was mentioned, does that mean we have to take a shot for each user?

Cuz I'm completely down wit dat shit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 January, 2013, 09:58:17 PM
Yep, lots of shots, and Judge Minty reference as well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 01 January, 2013, 10:34:04 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 31 December, 2012, 10:12:03 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 29 December, 2012, 11:13:47 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 28 December, 2012, 11:27:54 PM
FYI, a King Steer combo meal is a combo meal from a South African fast food chain.

Want one,what do you get?

This:
(http://www.steers.co.za/images/home/OriginalKingSteer_Combo.jpg)

The burger is big, but it's a burger is a burger is a burger. Nothing too spectacular there. Nice enough.. But the chips!! My Grud, those are THE best you get in the world.
That looks soooooo fecking good,two to go please.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 02 January, 2013, 08:12:11 AM
I'll bring you one in march. Might be a bit cold though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 02 January, 2013, 09:20:26 AM
even the wood looks tasty in that picture    :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 02 January, 2013, 12:12:36 PM
As I imagine others have noticed already, Dredd has been removed from YouTube. Yay!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 January, 2013, 05:01:05 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 02 January, 2013, 12:12:36 PM
As I imagine others have noticed already, Dredd has been removed from YouTube. Yay!


Not quite,


http://www.youtube.com/results?uni=3&uploaded=w&search_query=dredd&search_type=videos&search_duration=long


Lionsgate aren't doing their job.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 02 January, 2013, 06:00:08 PM
 JOE that really gets us down........... that's 3 FULL movies on You Tube for DREDD now ,  WTF   is it just because its DREDD or does this happen with all movies  ??
Spanish , Latin i think and a weird Russian 1  with weird ghosting
users to report to You Tube
or lionsgate
sansz rojas
Никита Столяров
Adolf Montoya

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 02 January, 2013, 06:24:50 PM
It's not just Youtube. I was checking out Justin TV last night out of boredom to find something to watch and I came across at least two channels broadcasting Dredd. The Hobbit has recently had a DVD screener leaked, and people on there are fearful of showing it because apparently channels were being closed down quickly after showing it. I clicked into one broadcasting it to watch a few seconds of it (haven't been to see it yet and intend to at the weekend) and it got shut down after about 30 seconds of me being there. As Joe says, someone isn't doing their job right. They either just don't care, or have just chalked Dredd off as a complete loss.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 02 January, 2013, 06:26:16 PM
That Russian one with the weird ghosting is meant to be in 3D...
With You-Tube it used to be that you couldnt post anything over ten minutes(?) in length, but sinced thats changed its full films galore on there now.
Dont they police their own site?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 02 January, 2013, 06:29:09 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 02 January, 2013, 06:26:16 PM
That Russian one with the weird ghosting is meant to be in 3D...
With You-Tube it used to be that you couldnt post anything over ten minutes(?) in length, but sinced thats changed its full films galore on there now.
Dont they police their own site?
They do. Put a scene up showing a bit of titty, and it'll get torn down faster than you can say "boo". Upload something graphic like a suicide or something awful, or a full film, and they take their sweet time looking into it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 02 January, 2013, 06:32:30 PM
Just report Dredd for nudity, stick the timestamp at 45:48 or somewhere close, and hope it gets taken off. Yes it's a losing battle, but if it means one more person buys it on Bluray than I don't mind doing it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 02 January, 2013, 07:07:59 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 02 January, 2013, 06:29:09 PM
They do. Put a scene up showing a bit of titty, and it'll get torn down faster than you can say "boo". Upload something graphic like a suicide or something awful, or a full film, and they take their sweet time looking into it.

Now ill admit to being a bit of a hypocrite. Ive often been thankful that somebody has posted an older forgotten gem of a film, or some documentary thats been taped off telly from years ago, but this does take the piss.
If the first one got taken down then Lionsgate are on the case? But saying that, ill bet YouTube wouldnt allow, or would quickly take down a film from a bigger studio - with bigger lawyers, without too much prompting.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 02 January, 2013, 07:21:15 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 January, 2013, 05:01:05 PM
juez dredd película completa español latino 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/results?uni=3&uploaded=w&search_query=dredd&search_type=videos&search_duration=long)  Lionsgate aren't doing their job.

"perps ... no cooperaron"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 January, 2013, 07:23:23 PM
Lionsgate are notoriously, aggressively protective of their IPs - they have actually threatened an acquaintance of mine for a very marginal copyright infringement (though the person in question totally deserved it and didn't have a leg to stand on).

The fact that these uploaders haven't received cease and desist orders yet is probably due to it being the holiday period.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 02 January, 2013, 08:00:30 PM
Well that one I posted up the other day has been taken down...someone IS doing there job a bit...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DrJomster on 02 January, 2013, 08:47:39 PM
Not sure if this has been posted a million times or not but the soundtrack is going for only six quid on iTunes! BARGAIN!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 02 January, 2013, 09:05:29 PM
And its a tenner in HMV, apparently..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 02 January, 2013, 09:45:35 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 02 January, 2013, 07:07:59 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 02 January, 2013, 06:29:09 PM
They do. Put a scene up showing a bit of titty, and it'll get torn down faster than you can say "boo". Upload something graphic like a suicide or something awful, or a full film, and they take their sweet time looking into it.

Now ill admit to being a bit of a hypocrite. Ive often been thankful that somebody has posted an older forgotten gem of a film, or some documentary thats been taped off telly from years ago, but this does take the piss.
If the first one got taken down then Lionsgate are on the case? But saying that, ill bet YouTube wouldnt allow, or would quickly take down a film from a bigger studio - with bigger lawyers, without too much prompting.
I harassed the tit who uploaded the full film that was posted in the link a few pages back. I sent him various private messages telling him that he better take it off as I'd informed Lionsgate and Youtube about his channel, to which his response was "Go fuck yourself. Get a life." Fair enough, I said. I then checked yesterday to find Dredd and a few other vids of his were removed, but not his channel. Strange that. I sent another message to him stating that he'd shit his kecks from the threats I issued and that he was a good lad for obeying me. His response was that he never removed it himself and that it was taken down. He never specified who. Though it does raise the question: if it were Youtube, why not just ban him for breaching their terms and agreement policy? Surely it's against their rules to upload full films, albums and such on a channel and only have a channel for that purpose?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 03 January, 2013, 09:29:12 AM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 02 January, 2013, 09:05:29 PM
And its a tenner in HMV, apparently..

Ooh, that's me making a stop on the way home from work, then!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 January, 2013, 09:39:29 AM
11 Days to go, creeps!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 03 January, 2013, 04:10:42 PM
So, a local online news website just published a top ten most pirated movies list..

http://www.channel24.co.za/Multimedia/Movies/The-10-Most-Pirated-Movies-of-2012-20130102

Reading this, the average for the top 10 racks up about 7.75 million illegal downloads. This is of course excluding file sharing at the office, which can easily double that number. Lets be hypothetical and say that Dredd could ultimately suffer about 6.5 million downloads now the disc is about to be released.. Amazon's bluray price is £13.. £84.5 million.. That's a few pennies short of no less than two Dredd's.

Makes me sad.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 January, 2013, 04:26:05 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 03 January, 2013, 04:10:42 PM
Lets be hypothetical and say that Dredd could ultimately suffer about 6.5 million downloads now the disc is about to be released.. Amazon's bluray price is £13.. £84.5 million.. That's a few pennies short of no less than two Dredd's.

Doesn't work like that. That presupposes that these people were going to buy a copy, and then decided to torrent it instead. They weren't -- these people don't pay for anything. Does that make them freeloading fuckers? Certainly? Can you multiply downloads by the full retail cost and declare this lost revenue? Well, big content frequently does but it still doesn't make it true.

There's a music analogy here: in my youth, and even as an adult, I knew lots of people whose entire music collections consisted of nothing but stuff they'd taped off other people. They owned practically no original copies of albums -- these people simply didn't buy music. They've always existed; the difference is that file-sharing means that you can see them not buying music, and they have the opportunity to not buy a lot more music than before. If you could wave a magic wand and make all the file-sharing technology disappear overnight, these people still wouldn't buy music.

Same deal with films, I'm afraid.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 January, 2013, 04:30:37 PM
I'd definitely argue that downloading does undoubtedly damage sales of music and films, but it's nowhere close to 1:1.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 03 January, 2013, 04:49:35 PM
It's not so much presupposing they'd buy a copy.. It's a 'what if' these people legitimately purchase a copy..

The top torrented movie on that list was downloaded 8.3 million times, it had a 12 million budget. What if that got the same reception as Dredd? Critically acclaimed, murdered at the box office.. Those guys would be gutted. They might as well have put the thing on youtube instead.

I completely agree with you Jim, without a doubt, but just putting some numbers to those downloads and it is quite scary..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 03 January, 2013, 04:51:42 PM
I dunno, I think there would also be some people who didn't plan on buying dredd, then after seeing the torrent and how good the film is, may go out and buy it to support the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 January, 2013, 04:54:43 PM
QuoteI dunno, I think there would also be some people who didn't plan on buying dredd, then after seeing the torrent and how good the film is, may go out and buy it to support the film.

Certainly, but not enough to make up for the people who would have rented or bought it but torrented it instead.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 03 January, 2013, 04:58:48 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 03 January, 2013, 04:51:42 PM
I dunno, I think there would also be some people who didn't plan on buying dredd, then after seeing the torrent and how good the film is, may go out and buy it to support the film.

My mate for one. He's downloaded it, fallen in love with it and now said he will buy the blu-ray, which he will. Some freetards are just that, they will download / copy / highspeed dub whatever, but I'd be lying if I said I'd never downloaded an album to see if it was any good before buying.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 January, 2013, 04:59:06 PM
Quote from: radiator on 03 January, 2013, 04:54:43 PM
Certainly, but not enough to make up for the people who would have rented or bought it but torrented it instead.

There is no data to suggest that this is true, and some small amounts of research that suggests the reverse may be true for music. Numbers are frequently bandied about by various lobby groups for Big Content, but when pressed for a definitive source, these almost always turn out to be made up.

Note that I'm not saying that your assertion isn't true, radiator, but I think Big Content has strenuously avoided looking too hard for definite numbers in case they torpedo their own arguments.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 January, 2013, 05:16:16 PM
I think the difference now is that it's so much easier to just grab stuff for free.

Taping songs off the radio, hooking up two VCRs etc was always a massive faff. Even copying CDs was time-consuming and costly in it's own right - a world of difference between being basically two or three mouse-clicks away from almost everything, ever, for free, on tap.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 03 January, 2013, 06:12:49 PM
There's a potential Dredd story relating to all this discussion about piracy and online cyber crime for sure.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 03 January, 2013, 06:18:56 PM
I bet all Entertainment Companies secretly love illegal downloading sites. It's a great reason to bung a couple of quid more onto a DVD,CD etc since they can claim it's covering themselves financially from the revenues lost due to Piracy.

The Tobacco Industry effectively condoned illegal smuggling of cigarettes since it wanted the Government to lower the high price it set for fags. It could always point to illegal smuggling claiming it was impacting on it's business and if Government wanted to create jobs in this sector it should knock a few pounds off a pack of 20. Legal purchases of tobacco would rise they reasoned bringing more money into the Tobacco companies coffers and off setting the downturn in their Industry created by the smugglers. Unfortunately they got found out but that didn't stop them trying it on in the first place.

It's dreadfully paranoid but could some of these 'Pirate' sites, seemingly allowed to exist unmolested with the occasional threat issued from some Global Corp be playing the same part in a game of fuck the consumer?

Either way legitimate user get screwed: by the Corporations upping the price on their products to cover their losses and by the illegal downloaders who get it [mostly] for free and who give the Corp Scum every excuse they need get one over on us.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 03 January, 2013, 06:28:58 PM
Quote from: radiator on 03 January, 2013, 05:16:16 PM
I think the difference now is that it's so much easier to just grab stuff for free.

Taping songs off the radio, hooking up two VCRs etc was always a massive faff. Even copying CDs was time-consuming and costly in it's own right - a world of difference between being basically two or three mouse-clicks away from almost everything, ever, for free, on tap.
Yeah, the assumption of 1 download = 1 sale is obviously bananas but it's the scale of the sharing which makes it so different. When you talk about taping albums from your mates, that still means you had to actually know someone who bought it and well enough to let you borrow it. Me and my friends would frequently plan out which records and computer games we were going to buy to try and avoid duplication and make our limited income go further but there would have to be some quid pro quo. Realistically, the sharing ratio goes from 2:1 or 3:1 to a situation where it can easily be 1,000,000:1 or more.

Interestingly, or incriminatingly, I will still happily lend or borrow CDs from friends in the full knowledge they'll be ripped yet I wouldn't think of downloading music illegally, nor have I ever done it with films for some reason. Not trying to defend my actions then or now (I detest the weaselly justifications people make) but that's the reality of it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 January, 2013, 06:55:26 PM
It does make me roll my eyes when people say "but how can piracy be harming the film industry when The Avengers makes a billion at the box office?".

Fact is, mid-budget genre films like Dredd are getting rarer and rarer, and piracy has to be a part of that. If something isn't a 'must-see' many people will just wait for the first high-quality torrent.

I've never understood why the entertainment industry doesn't hire a few hundred/thousand people around the world to spend all day, every day uploading dodgy torrents - things that aren't immediately obvious like the sound slowly going out of sync, scenes playing out of order etc etc so people wouldn't realise they had a dodgy torrent until they sat down to watch it - literally swamp the market with hundreds of thousands of them until finding a decent torrent for the latest big movie becomes like looking for a needle in a haystack, then have the same people giving bad torrents good reviews/comments and vice versa. You'd never stamp out the dedicated freeloaders completely, but all you'd have to do is make it enough of a pain in the arse so that the majority of people will start seeking out legal alternatives just to avoid the hassle.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 January, 2013, 07:14:05 PM
Quote from: radiator on 03 January, 2013, 06:55:26 PM
It does make me roll my eyes when people say "but how can piracy be harming the film industry when The Avengers makes a billion at the box office?".


It's also the reason why studios are making less films. They put all their resources into something like Transformers or Batman that can make well over a $billion whereas if they divided up their 'Tranformers' production costs amongst 10 smaller films they'd make less money at the box-office and with added risks plus the need to employ more people to get 10 films made as opposed to one.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 03 January, 2013, 08:25:38 PM

http://www.chrisjonesblog.com/2012/04/will-shutting-down-the-piratebay-make-any-difference.html

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 January, 2013, 08:37:38 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 03 January, 2013, 08:25:38 PM
http://www.chrisjonesblog.com/2012/04/will-shutting-down-the-piratebay-make-any-difference.html

Is that not a broad summary of the very same opinion that you called me a thief for voicing on the 'Reactions' thread?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 January, 2013, 08:54:29 PM
To be honest, the attitude that people deserve to have whatever they've bought in whatever format can quite frankly cock off.

I must have missed the bit enshrined in human rights legislation entitling consumers to digital copies of their product - if you're not happy with the product - don't buy it, but please don't bleat about what you perceive you're due.

In the same vein, studios make it available and don't be fucking surprised that Game of Thrones is the most torrented show because you haven't even released a blu-ray of Season 2.

Google are just a hypocritical 800 pound gorilla, but then again calling yourself the Pirate Bay doesn't do themselves any favours.

In short, I'm sick of the lot of you. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 03 January, 2013, 09:40:41 PM
Jim,

I think Steve has just (above) more than eloquently summed up the answer to that one now in his second paragraph, so lets not go there here as well.

I didnt say I agreed with the link, I posted it as it just puts the argument in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 03 January, 2013, 09:42:15 PM
It's pretty cool to see how many people are posting on the dredd facebook saying how awesome it is. I think a sequel could still be on the cards yet. Really wish the IMDb score would stop slipping though. Hopefully people seeing it after blu-ray release will push it back a up a little.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 03 January, 2013, 10:29:00 PM
The only legitimate reason to illegally obtain a movie or tv show or album, to my mind, is the one we had back in the eighties: because the authorities have decided you are not allowed to have it, or have insisted it be censored. If a movie or album or book is banned or censored then you are duty bound to obtain an illegal, uncensored copy. Because, basically, fuck anyone who tries to ban stuff.

As we now live in a culture less-inclined to ban stuff, there is less reason to obtain illegal copies. Mind you, if you balk at paying the ridiculous prices cinemas charge or the frankly profiteering, exploitative prices for first-release dvd and bluray and honestly feel you cant afford it- wait til the film is available second hand for three quid, like i do.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 03 January, 2013, 10:49:39 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 03 January, 2013, 10:29:00 PM
The only legitimate reason to illegally obtain a movie or tv show or album [...]

... is to make sure that Scientology doesn't get a penny when you watch a Tom Cruise film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 January, 2013, 11:04:54 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 03 January, 2013, 10:29:00 PM
As we now live in a culture less-inclined to ban stuff, there is less reason to obtain illegal copies. Mind you, if you balk at paying the ridiculous prices cinemas charge or the frankly profiteering, exploitative prices for first-release dvd and bluray and honestly feel you cant afford it- wait til the film is available second hand for three quid, like i do.


For most general releases I've settled on the moral-compromise of 'renting' the supposedly 'HD' version - really DVD quality - on iTunes, which are a quarter the scandalous price of 'buying' new releases from them, and then ripping the DRM-rental file to my hard-drive using software. I feel I'm at least giving them the real cost of the service.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 03 January, 2013, 11:36:58 PM
Im afraid im ethically and morally unable to watch a Tom Cruise film. I caught a few minutes of some Mission Impossible shit on telly earlier this evening and had to forcibly remind myself that he cant hear me shouting at him. I draw small cold comfort from Belgium outlawing his pathetic criminal tax evasion organisation and hope he gets a knock at the door very soon. His continued existence offends me, so no, im afraid i will never again watch anything with the repulsive dwarf in it.

And prof- yep, rent them. Or wait for sales. I understand not wanting to wait, and being excited and all- but if money is genuinely an issue there are always ways to legally watch something cheaply. Free illegal downloads are entirely for wankers.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 04 January, 2013, 12:31:45 AM
As I said in my eloquently titled article Dear TV and movie industries: stop being dicks (http://reverttosaved.com/2012/01/27/dear-tv-and-movie-industries-stop-being-dicks/), "Companies do a lot better commercially when it appears they don't hate their customers with a frenzied passion."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 04 January, 2013, 01:44:47 AM
I am probably gonna become quite unpopular here but I have nothing against torrents and think it's good people can watch a lot of stuff for free and it's easily available. Even stuff like all these on demand services I think only appeared because they had to compete, which is good.

Yeah it may damage sales, and have an impact on indie films more, but I think with a lot of independent films (and music) they were made more out of love and the creators want more people to see/hear them then make a profit. Though obviously a profit is nice and I support films and bands I like by paying.

And as for the big studios, well those cats are fat enough as it is.

Dredd is kind of in the middle as it is independent, but requires a bigger budget then most indie films to create the sci-fi world. I think it will still make a killing on blu-ray/dvd though. Fingers crossed.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 04 January, 2013, 09:12:53 AM
10 days to go...

So by next Friday, there will be new media reviews (papers etc) about Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 January, 2013, 09:41:04 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 03 January, 2013, 08:54:29 PM
To be honest, the attitude that people deserve to have whatever they've bought in whatever format can quite frankly cock off.

Unless you've never taped a vinyl album or ripped a CD, unless you've dutifully deleted the VHS copy of every show you recorded off the TV after 30 days, I'm going to have to suggest that this statement is a touch hypocritcal, Steve.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 04 January, 2013, 09:49:13 AM
The ability to rip DVDs to watch on your computer or iPod isn't an unreasonable request at all, and is a million miles from torrenting everything without paying, and frankly it seems like a very fusty, old fashioned attitude to object to it.

It'll probably be legal soon anyway, just as ripping CDs for personal use is now legal.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 January, 2013, 10:01:47 AM
Quote from: Teivion on 03 January, 2013, 09:40:41 PM
I didnt say I agreed with the link, I posted it as it just puts the argument in a nutshell. as a blatant troll, since I clearly don't agree with it, even though my own position makes no sense whatsoever.

FTFY.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 04 January, 2013, 10:28:38 AM
Jim,

My last comment on this.

posting that was hardly trolling.

Your response to it as above WAS.
I dont agree with you or your reasons, Ive said so in the other thread, and left it at that.

I didnt mention you at all, it was relevant to the thread, and wasnt saying anything that wasn't being discussed openly already.
You chose to take it personally, not me.

If you want to ignore me on here or something, great, its no loss to me.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 04 January, 2013, 10:30:43 AM
Guys, can we dial it down a couple of notches please? Before the flames start..!

Don't make me enforce a group hug!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 04 January, 2013, 10:33:47 AM
Steve isn't necessarilly a hypocrite. Maybe he is just REFORMED.

When napster first came on line I was shamefully lax at policing my teenage sons use of it. My thinking was that I used to record Lps etc. But then he started downloading industrial quantities of stuff. More than he could possibly listen to. And his mates would do the same. Barely a single sale of a cd between half a dozen of them.


That, amongst yhe key demographic for music sales, has got to have done harm.


If you can afford it, pay for it.

If it isnt available cheaply in the format you want, wait.

If it never becomes available cheaply in the format you want, make do.

That philosophy works for me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 04 January, 2013, 10:44:10 AM
BIG GROUP HUG!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 04 January, 2013, 11:35:04 AM
Quote from: radiator on 04 January, 2013, 09:49:13 AMThe ability to rip DVDs to watch on your computer or iPod isn't an unreasonable request at all, and is a million miles from torrenting everything without paying, and frankly it seems like a very fusty, old fashioned attitude to object to it. It'll probably be legal soon anyway, just as ripping CDs for personal use is now legal.
Depends on where you live. Ripping CDs to MP3 in the UK is not legal in the slightest, unless you have the written permission of the rights owner—we have no media-shifting fair-use laws in this country. All we have are limited time-shifting for recorded television shows, and theoretical legally allowed back-ups of 'computer software', although subsequent laws regarding not breaking DRM put such things into an infinite loop these days. (i.e. you have a legal right to back-up a videogame, but it's illegal to break any encryption on media, meaning the more recent law makes it impossible for you to back anything up).

The recent announcement by Vince Cable looks to make British copyright law rather more sensible. Fair-use will be allowed but very strictly for your own use (I've not looked into how families are affected by this, though), which should enable you to legally format-shift. I've no idea if you'd also be able to torrent something you already own, or if the law with specifically stipulate that you must do the format-shifting yourself. Regardless, any sharing whatsoever will still be utterly banned. (Orphan work also seems to be getting a rights overhaul, and in a manner less hideous than the original proposal. The aim now appears to be to enable legal archiving to begin in earnest—even though it's far too late for a lot of digital content—but offers reasonable protection for scumbag media companies using content without the rights to it, due to it being an orphan work—i.e. they couldn't be arsed finding out who owns it.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 04 January, 2013, 01:35:37 PM
torrents have stopped me buying some crap i would have otherwise bought.. I'll download , if i like it i'll buy it , if i don't, i won't

I would say i have i bigger CD collection and DVD collection than the average person(about 400 and 500 respectively), and that is in no small part to torrents.

I downloaded Game of Thrones, because i couldn't get it anywhere else, and i bought it the day it came out on blu-ray.

Torrents aren't necessarily all evil, its a great archive for things that are simply no longer physically available. 


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 04 January, 2013, 01:49:22 PM
i sit on the fence - I don't have any expectations of my rights as a consumer. Sure I've ripped CDs to iTunes but I don't have an expectation that its my right, and I've never really bothered doing the same with DVD or BR, and to be honest I just don't care that much about media, or have that hoarder mentality any more.

I have little sympathy for consumers and content producers alike.

There have been corporations like Sony who produce both the hardware to enable copying and the content - they aren't really in a position to have their cake and eat it.

However I totally understand why IP owners want to to retain control of digital copies after companies like napster abused the lax protection on CDs.

There's not any moral high ground here.

Anyway, I'm not going to convince anyone of my position and vice versa, so I will leave it there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 04 January, 2013, 03:02:36 PM
10 DAYS TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   :D

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 04 January, 2013, 03:03:38 PM
Not for me - I'm seeing it again tonight in the cinema!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 04 January, 2013, 08:39:52 PM
So what are people's views on the use of torrents to obtain materials that wouldn't otherwise be possible to obtain for personal educational purposes?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 04 January, 2013, 09:27:34 PM
Quote from: radiator on 04 January, 2013, 03:03:38 PM
Not for me - I'm seeing it again tonight in the cinema!

Bought tickets but work/ family life balance says no  ;-(

At least it means 2 spare seats for someone to get a better view.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 January, 2013, 08:51:30 PM
OOh just saw Dredd TV advert when watch X2 on C4+1

Strangest it's said Monday, even it out next Monday, so people put it a day early? but the TV advert looks great as it little clip only featured Dredd like Blu-Ray trailer!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 06 January, 2013, 09:02:21 PM
Be nice if the release was brought forward. Either way, not long now!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 January, 2013, 09:29:58 AM
A week to go, Creeps!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 January, 2013, 09:45:47 AM
A lower budget gory R-rated 3D genre film from Lionsgate manages to knock the Hobbit off top-spot in the US.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20930368 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20930368)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 07 January, 2013, 10:04:58 AM
You have to admit that Texas Chainsaw Massacre has one hell of a bigger present in mainstream culture than Dredd does though, although it's still impressive that it made its budget back in one weekend!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 January, 2013, 10:35:02 AM
Yeah, it was more an observation about factors that it 'was the 3D, or the gore, or the timing'.

Seems like the audience was mainly people who'd never seen the original - to be honest neither have I (except fleetingly), yet I know the outline of it.

Funny how they mention the actors in this film - I've not the foggiest who they are.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 07 January, 2013, 10:49:19 AM
Yay! Go Leatherface! Kick that nasty little furry-footed freak into next week, and skin him alive while youre at it!

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 January, 2013, 10:54:26 AM
Leatherface has got a nice new pair of slippers anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 07 January, 2013, 12:50:09 PM
Seems quite anomalous that a film like Dredd - which sank without a trace theatrically, seems to be doing so well on home video - at least I think it is, I don't pay much attention to the charts ordinarily. Is it normal for a film that did so poorly to race up the charts on both sides of the Atlantic? Did other movies that did similar business to Dredd - Lockout and Drive Angry for example - top the home video charts on release?

It's starting to look like good sense to release it after Christmas now - it would have been lost amongst all the big-hitters.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 January, 2013, 01:15:18 PM
I don't know, I take these charts with a pinch of salt TBH.

Can't find an independent source, but this was quoted by someone on another site - although this is for books rather than DVD/BR

""What does the sales rank mean?

Our sales rank is a bestseller list much like The New York Times® Best Sellers list, except instead of listing just the top 50 or so titles, it includes millions! The lower the number, the higher the popularity for that particular title in comparison to other items listed. Items are ranked within their product category only, so a book ranked at Number 1 is the best-selling book at Amazon.com, but may not be the overall best-selling item.

Sales rank data is calculated hourly. While we cannot provide specific information about our calculation formula, Amazon.com Marketplace sales are also included in the calculation. Please keep in mind that our sales rank figures are simply meant to be a guide of general interest for the customer and not definitive sales information for publishers - we assume you have this information regularly from your distribution sources.""
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 07 January, 2013, 01:46:08 PM
if its updated hourly it means its consistently outselling other items which surely is more impressive ? 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 07 January, 2013, 01:57:20 PM
QuoteSales rank data is calculated hourly. While we cannot provide specific information about our calculation formula, Amazon.com Marketplace sales are also included in the calculation. Please keep in mind that our sales rank figures are simply meant to be a guide of general interest for the customer and not definitive sales information for publishers - we assume you have this information regularly from your distribution sources

Weird - you think it'd be a pretty simple, binary thing to work out which items are selling most units.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 January, 2013, 02:27:50 PM
http://www.webpronews.com/navigating-the-amazon-sales-ranking-2006-06 (http://www.webpronews.com/navigating-the-amazon-sales-ranking-2006-06)

Bit more in-depth (from 2006)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 07 January, 2013, 02:28:16 PM
Do you think Amazon are paid to put some releases higher up the list than others, such as Smiths moving some magazine titles to the front of shelves..?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 January, 2013, 03:08:46 PM
Yes.

Hope the effort the publishers are making results in decent sales.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 January, 2013, 03:42:31 PM
Surely best sellers means what items are selling best?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 January, 2013, 03:49:53 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 07 January, 2013, 01:15:18 PM

""What does the sales rank mean?

Our sales rank is a bestseller list much like The New York Times® Best Sellers list, except instead of listing just the top 50 or so titles, it includes millions! The lower the number, the higher the popularity for that particular title in comparison to other items listed. Items are ranked within their product category only, so a book ranked at Number 1 is the best-selling book at Amazon.com, but may not be the overall best-selling item.

Sales rank data is calculated hourly. While we cannot provide specific information about our calculation formula, Amazon.com Marketplace sales are also included in the calculation. Please keep in mind that our sales rank figures are simply meant to be a guide of general interest for the customer and not definitive sales information for publishers - we assume you have this information regularly from your distribution sources.""


In simple terms the best-selling item is only best-selling in its respective category i.e. the best-selling book is the best selling book, the best-selling blu-ray is the best-selling blu-ray.




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 07 January, 2013, 04:51:29 PM
Makes sense, would be pretty damn impressive for Dredd to be the best selling single item on the entirety of the behemoth that is Amazon!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 January, 2013, 01:39:16 AM


Carlos on Dredd,

DAH: Let's get this out of the way: the Dredd movie. What did you think?

CE: I saw the film in London and it was a pleasant surprise! It captures the essence of the real Dredd, plus it is a return to the earlier one before it was on steroids, and Karl Urban does it perfectly!



http://www.lore-online.com/index.php/features/94-ezquerra-interview
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 08 January, 2013, 06:49:11 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 January, 2013, 01:39:16 AM
http://www.lore-online.com/index.php/features/94-ezquerra-interview

Cheers, Soap. How could I not have known that Ezquerra and Wagner did a Batman story together?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 January, 2013, 07:27:42 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 January, 2013, 01:39:16 AM


Carlos on Dredd,

DAH: Let's get this out of the way: the Dredd movie. What did you think?

CE: I saw the film in London and it was a pleasant surprise! It captures the essence of the real Dredd, plus it is a return to the earlier one before it was on steroids, and Karl Urban does it perfectly!

I am glad, I was sit next to him and his wife, well his wife wasn't enjoy the film's violence ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 January, 2013, 09:33:04 AM
Too many great scenes! 6 days is not enough to wait!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 08 January, 2013, 09:43:34 AM
Heard a rumour HMV might not be getting Dredd. Not on release at least. They have pulled their release promo t-shirt deal and haven't had all this weeks new releases in. I assume down to their big meeting with the bank later in the month
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 08 January, 2013, 09:48:13 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 08 January, 2013, 09:43:34 AM
Heard a rumour HMV might not be getting Dredd. Not on release at least. They have pulled their release promo t-shirt deal and haven't had all this weeks new releases in. I assume down to their big meeting with the bank later in the month

Ouch, that's not good. It's great that it's no.1 on Amazon etc, but visibility to punters on the high street is surely important to a successful release?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 January, 2013, 10:26:43 AM
Bollock! Was plan to buy Blu-Ray and DVD at HMV next week!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 08 January, 2013, 10:33:17 AM
Nothing official, it just all seems to point to that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 January, 2013, 01:17:50 PM
Happy to see 2000AD Forum changes their background into Dredd 3D! But review from Daily Star?  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 08 January, 2013, 04:32:16 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 08 January, 2013, 10:33:17 AM
Nothing official, it just all seems to point to that.

Drokk! As ive got some Christmas pressies in the shape of HMV vouchers, on release day this was naturally gonna be my first port of call.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 January, 2013, 04:35:04 PM
Ouch! Sorry Jack!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 08 January, 2013, 04:40:46 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 08 January, 2013, 10:33:17 AM
Nothing official, it just all seems to point to that.
Well, if they're in as much trouble as folk are saying, suppliers aren't going to extend them stock of new product. Isn't that how it went with Game the other year?

Over the past year or so, HMV have been given ridiculously favourable terms by (essentially sale or return rather than cash up front) from all the big record labels who are desperate to retain at least one big opponent to the hegemony of Amazon and iTunes but I have no idea if this extends to other product lines. And they're still fucked.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 08 January, 2013, 05:00:50 PM
It doesnt look good for HMV at all, does it. A mate works there, and when i said id gotten some vouchers, he said 'spend 'em quick'.
It would be a shame if HMV does indeed close. Not least because of people losing their jobs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 08 January, 2013, 06:53:04 PM
Yes, STRONGLY advise anyone with HMV vouchers to use them IMMEDIATELY. Like today, if you still can.

I wonder what will take the place of our's this time next month? Another pound shop, i imagine.

SBT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 08 January, 2013, 10:14:21 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 08 January, 2013, 01:17:50 PM
Happy to see 2000AD Forum changes their background into Dredd 3D! But review from Daily Star?  :-[

Could be worse ... could be the Daily Mail.

Ugh!  I feel dirty even saying it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 January, 2013, 07:12:05 AM
I notice there few more new posters in Dredd IMDB that they likes the film...

If they spread the word, wait and see...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 January, 2013, 07:23:43 PM
3 days to go, creeps!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 11 January, 2013, 09:25:18 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 11 January, 2013, 07:23:43 PM
3 days to go, creeps!

3 bodies falling..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strangelysaucy on 11 January, 2013, 11:41:10 PM
2 judges judging
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 11 January, 2013, 11:52:04 PM
And a bloodbath in Peach Trees!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 12 January, 2013, 12:04:01 AM
Dispatched.  It's on it's WAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!!!!    :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 January, 2013, 01:13:18 PM


Pete Travis Talks Dredd 3D Blu-ray (http://www.movieweb.com/news/exclusive-pete-travis-talks-dredd-3d-blu-ray)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 12 January, 2013, 02:27:06 PM
Doesn't completely dismiss a sequel,of course he could just be being tactful seeing as it's an interview specifically pertaining to Dredd,still small hope and I'm taking that.
Urban could still play Dredd in 15 years time and still make it work so who knows,glass half full and all that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 January, 2013, 03:18:59 PM
Just saw Dredd Blu-Ray advert on ITV, it includes the great quotes from critics
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dodsy on 12 January, 2013, 04:25:16 PM
Just got the mail from Amazon, my 3D blu-rey is on the way  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HdE on 12 January, 2013, 04:38:04 PM
Mine's in the post too!

Exciteeeeeeeee!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 January, 2013, 04:38:18 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 January, 2013, 01:13:18 PM


Pete Travis Talks Dredd 3D Blu-ray (http://www.movieweb.com/news/exclusive-pete-travis-talks-dredd-3d-blu-ray)

It's nice to hear from Travis for a change. And he's an [almost] blind optimist, like me!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 January, 2013, 04:56:46 PM


Or rather he doesn't have the authority to make official statements for DNA.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 January, 2013, 05:33:38 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 January, 2013, 04:56:46 PM


Or rather he doesn't have the authority to make official statements for DNA.
Exactly. So he can speak freely(ish).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strangelysaucy on 12 January, 2013, 08:33:26 PM
In my mounting excitement I visited HMV today in case they mistakenly put the blu ray out early by mistake...they didn't but they did have this
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/13/va2e8abu.jpg)
:-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chris_askham on 12 January, 2013, 10:03:44 PM
Typically, my blu ray player has chosen this weekend to suddenly stop playing all blu ray disks. Sorely tempted to just chuck it out of an upstairs window.  >:(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 January, 2013, 08:47:35 PM
Well it's tomorrow, can't wait to see it in subtitles!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 13 January, 2013, 08:54:57 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 13 January, 2013, 08:47:35 PM
Well it's tomorrow, can't wait to see it in subtitles!

ooh dear.. That may or may not ruin the movie for you..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 13 January, 2013, 10:16:41 PM
im hoping i can pick it up just after 12 oclock from the local ASDA 's

maybe not   but im living in HOPE

seemingly a few folk in AMERICA  have issues with the BLURAY  not playing in  PlayStation ?
:o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 14 January, 2013, 12:00:29 AM
Quote from: strangelysaucy on 12 January, 2013, 08:33:26 PM
In my mounting excitement I visited HMV today in case they mistakenly put the blu ray out early by mistake...they didn't but they did have this
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/13/va2e8abu.jpg)
:-)
FUUUUUUU-I will have one!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 14 January, 2013, 12:03:28 AM
It's in the shops now, go Goaty!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 14 January, 2013, 12:28:12 AM
Quote from: junox on 13 January, 2013, 10:16:41 PM
im hoping i can pick it up just after 12 oclock from the local ASDA 's

maybe not   but im living in HOPE

I think ours doesn't open til around 8am on a Monday. They usually switch the 2000ads over at midnight though (not today obviously).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 14 January, 2013, 02:11:12 AM
That t shirt is rad. There is a supposed different official one on ebay. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-DREDD-HEAD-T-Shirt-Official-Licensed-Pre-Order-Jan-14-/160949610236?pt=UK_Men_s_T_Shirts&var=&hash=item25795826fc
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 14 January, 2013, 02:30:41 AM
Go into the HMV online shop and they do the other T-Shirt for £8
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 14 January, 2013, 02:39:54 AM
A choice of 3 here, but I think I like the HMV exclusive the best still. http://www.backstreetmerch.com/official-new_judge-dredd_merchandise/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 January, 2013, 08:41:09 AM
Nice!

But happy to said it got Subtitles but sadly extras don't got one, can't win it all!

(http://i.imgur.com/2c11H.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Adventurer on 14 January, 2013, 08:49:25 AM
Does the British copy have separate discs for 2D and 3D?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 January, 2013, 08:51:49 AM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 14 January, 2013, 08:49:25 AM
Does the British copy have separate discs for 2D and 3D?

Nope, single disc
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 January, 2013, 09:13:53 AM
Here what on the back;

(http://i.imgur.com/U9jBH.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 14 January, 2013, 09:27:36 AM
I'd have thought Goaty would have got comp copies seeing as he's the film's main star...!?!

;-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 January, 2013, 09:28:16 AM
nah, I would pay to give good DVD sales!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strangelysaucy on 14 January, 2013, 09:42:28 AM
Stood outside HMV today waiting for them to open, freezing my nuts off in my Dredd shirt...first sale in Staines to me! do I get my prize now?   :D
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 14 January, 2013, 11:24:32 AM
Best price I've found so far is £12.97 at Asda, bargain fans!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 14 January, 2013, 01:08:24 PM
Just picked mine up ( Single disk basic) in Tesco, £10.  :P
Think I'll have to wait till the 16th to watch it , to celebrate my 40th...;-)

I'd def buy it again if it has more extras or such like in the future, and even more so with a better case.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 14 January, 2013, 01:11:19 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 13 January, 2013, 08:47:35 PM
Well it's tomorrow, can't wait to see it in subtitles!

Yup- looking forward to seeing what Jayne The Wife thinks of it with subtitles too !
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 January, 2013, 01:19:14 PM
We may not get a sequel, but I have a feeling there will almost certainly be a special edition, extras-packed DVD/Blu Ray re-issue of DREDD in the future, as I think it'll be a consistent strong seller with a large cult following.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 14 January, 2013, 01:36:43 PM
Mine arrived this morning.Showed my Wife the first 10 mins as a taster...going the full 3D experience later  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 January, 2013, 01:38:29 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 14 January, 2013, 01:36:43 PM
Mine arrived this morning.Showed my Wife the first 10 mins as a taster...going the full 3D experience later  :D

What your wife reaction of first 10 mins?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 14 January, 2013, 01:42:48 PM
She just sat there, stunned!

Then admitted it looked"cool" :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 January, 2013, 01:47:01 PM
With hotshot moment? :D

Looking like will see it about 9pm tonight! :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 14 January, 2013, 01:51:11 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 14 January, 2013, 07:57:15 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 14 January, 2013, 07:51:14 AM
If Dredd 3D isn't sat in the hallway waiting for me when I get home from work I will be blubbing into my pint all evening.

If your area got snow, you might...

Just got a message from DPD (Amazon prime courier) - no-one there to sign for it, so it wasn't delivered.

(http://cdn.sheknows.com/articles/2012/02/crying-baby.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 January, 2013, 01:52:06 PM
Fuck! sorry mate!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 14 January, 2013, 01:52:55 PM
It's not my wife's type of film and so I won't be trying to make her watch it and that's the secret of nearly 20 years of marriage. She will hear it though :lol:

She enjoyed Judge Minty, so that's a good thing!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 14 January, 2013, 02:03:56 PM
What, not even the bit where you're shamelessly hogging the limelight?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 14 January, 2013, 02:08:22 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 14 January, 2013, 02:03:56 PM
What, not even the bit where you're shamelessly hogging the limelight?

I've pointed out all the forum names quickly, too!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 14 January, 2013, 02:10:59 PM
You don't have point my name out quickly, you can savour it, as it's 5 solid seconds :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 January, 2013, 02:30:23 PM
Oh yeah with CF's name so biggest in the film even Mr Soap's avatar and some other forum names...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 January, 2013, 02:32:45 PM


I get a residual on every copy sold.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 14 January, 2013, 03:00:19 PM
I even have the actual trailer down in the 'Cellar' and have looked at my section, frame by frame ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 14 January, 2013, 03:04:22 PM
Forgot to add, HMV Maidstone

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAk1upMCIAEqigg.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 14 January, 2013, 03:06:07 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 14 January, 2013, 01:51:11 PM
Just got a message from DPD (Amazon prime courier) - no-one there to sign for it, so it wasn't delivered.


Always, always, always send it to your work address..

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 14 January, 2013, 03:09:53 PM
When I ordered my Bluray from Amazon they wanted a couple of quid for express delivery for delivery today. To be honest I really wasn't that bothered and so I went for the free delivery and found it on the door mat as I just returned from town. So I would've paid money to have it delivered on the same day it was delivered for free ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 14 January, 2013, 03:16:56 PM
There is never any need for express delivery on pre-orders. They are usually timed to arrive on release day.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 January, 2013, 03:20:34 PM


It's sold out all over Dublin (hopefully each shop didn't order 3 copies).

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strangelysaucy on 14 January, 2013, 03:25:46 PM
I just bought it on iTunes too and am about to go get the DVD version to make it the triumvirate
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 January, 2013, 03:33:48 PM
QuoteIt's sold out all over Dublin (hopefully each shop didn't order 3 copies).

Wowzers - I expect stock orders weren't huge (probably around the same level as something like Drive Angry I'd imagine), but that's got to be a good sign on some level. At least - as well as the many reports of it selling out in US stores - it indicates that it's doing significantly better on disc than anyone expected it to.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 14 January, 2013, 03:49:53 PM
Bastards pissy shat and bollocks!
Bluray sold out in my shitty town,tried all 3 places(small town)Tescos etc and was left with the bloomin DVD.
Play.com here I come.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 January, 2013, 04:11:34 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 14 January, 2013, 03:49:53 PM
Bastards pissy shat and bollocks!
Bluray sold out in my shitty town,tried all 3 places(small town)Tescos etc and was left with the bloomin DVD.
Play.com here I come.

Awesome, which town was it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 14 January, 2013, 04:17:14 PM
Is there any place that would report the sales of the Dredd blu-ray/dvd?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 January, 2013, 04:17:48 PM
Not for a while, apparently.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 14 January, 2013, 04:22:38 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 14 January, 2013, 04:11:34 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 14 January, 2013, 03:49:53 PM
Bastards pissy shat and bollocks!
Bluray sold out in my shitty town,tried all 3 places(small town)Tescos etc and was left with the bloomin DVD.
Play.com here I come.

Awesome, which town was it?
Clitheroe,little town in Lancs.One Bluray in Blockbusters but some swine had reserved it,Sainsburys was my last stop and they only had DVD so I made do with that untill my Bluey turns up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 14 January, 2013, 04:30:25 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 14 January, 2013, 03:20:34 PM
It's sold out all over Dublin (hopefully each shop didn't order 3 copies).


Well D-Day is here at last, but ill have to wait a little bit longer. Good job im pretty laid back, isnt it  ;)

So, popped into HMV straight after work - trudging through the snow as i went (still have a couple of quid left on my HMV voucher card to use up) only to be told the BluRay has sold out!
They had about 25 copies on offer today, but now all snapped up.
And the assistant said, and i quote - "Its proven  to be very popular on both DVD and Blu-Ray" and the a big part of the draw is that "the 3D is excellent".

So there you have it. And some more Blu-Rays ordered for mid-week, not that thatll stop me from popping in every day to check
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 January, 2013, 04:40:56 PM
That's sweet as fuck, Judge Jack  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 14 January, 2013, 04:54:07 PM
It [dvd] came through the post today. Most pleased. Cannot wait to see it again!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 14 January, 2013, 05:10:24 PM
Sold out in HMV cardiff and I know how many they had, which is quite respectable. Bumped into judge fett who said he got the last copy in the city.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 14 January, 2013, 05:14:56 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 14 January, 2013, 03:49:53 PM
Bastards pissy shat and bollocks!
Bluray sold out in my shitty town,tried all 3 places(small town)Tescos etc and was left with the bloomin DVD.
Play.com here I come.

Play.com have said they are going to be shutting down to consumers - not sure when.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 14 January, 2013, 05:16:02 PM
March when they close the tax loophole that allowed them to exist. They will keep going as a 'marketplace' like amazon marketplace
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dr Feeley Good on 14 January, 2013, 05:19:19 PM
Mines not turned up from amazon...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 14 January, 2013, 05:19:47 PM
It was too dear at Play so it's Amazon I think.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 14 January, 2013, 05:43:39 PM
Tesco only had DvD and I purchased a BluRay especially to view it  . .. sob!  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judda fett on 14 January, 2013, 05:47:56 PM
http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?action=post;topic=34200.9420;last_msg=737293#postmodify

Last blue ray I should point out. Saw one dvd each left in wh smiths and a couple in that's entertainment- dvds that is.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dr Feeley Good on 14 January, 2013, 05:52:20 PM
Typical mine doesn't turn up and I'm in sainsburys and they have plenty on blu-ray... £12.99 !!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 14 January, 2013, 05:54:41 PM
I'm hauling my ass to Sainsbury's tomorrow, hope some are left  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 January, 2013, 06:05:36 PM
My brother in law just texted me a photo of his copy of Dredd on Blu Ray, which he is going to watch tonight.

I can now forgive him for choosing to see The Expendables 2 instead of Dredd at the cinema...

I've hassled him so much about it now that I really hope he likes it - his taste in films is.... a bit different to mine. But I did make him watch District 9 a couple of years ago, and he loved it, so there's hope!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 14 January, 2013, 06:07:21 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 14 January, 2013, 05:10:24 PM
Sold out in HMV cardiff and I know how many they had, which is quite respectable. Bumped into judge fett who said he got the last copy in the city.


NOOOOO!!!

(http://blogs.extension.org/justintimeparenting/files/2011/10/Toddler-Crying.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 14 January, 2013, 06:09:09 PM
Bum, tits, bollocks and buggery.

Looks like it's the pub tonight, drown my sorrows.

At least I've found a friend who can take redelivery during the day either tomorrow or Weds.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 14 January, 2013, 06:10:14 PM
Come over watch it at mine.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 14 January, 2013, 06:11:53 PM
Mine hasn't turned up from Amazon either. :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 14 January, 2013, 06:57:40 PM
I popped into HMV at lunchtime and got the DVD for a tenner. Same price as Amazon and no messing about.

Got a few beers in too, so once the kids are sound asleep will be plunged into Mega City One with the wife. She came with me to see it at the flicks and loved it so she's looking forward to watching it again.

I did wonder why it says the Meg is home to 'over 400 million' on the back of the box when Dredd clearly says 800 million in the opening sequence but then I am a pedantic, picky bastard.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Daveycandlish on 14 January, 2013, 07:23:26 PM
No blu-ray left in HMV Newcastle

Can someone save me trawling through the whole thread and tell me what extras are on the discs?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 January, 2013, 07:37:27 PM
Went to other ADSA next to my gym in Newcastle Byker. Blu-Ray sold out!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 14 January, 2013, 07:42:14 PM
The EXTRAS are as follows:-

Dredd: 2000 AD the original - 3:22
Slo-Mo - 2:05
Welcome to Peach Trees - 2:26
The Third Dimension - 1:53
Dredd's Gear - 2:24
Dredd - 1:47
INTERVIEWS:-
Karl Urban - 5:15
Olivia Thirlby 4:12
Lena Headey 0:45
Wood Harris 2:20
Pete Travis 0:45
Alex Garland and John Wagner 5:45
Allon Reich 2:32
Andrew MacDonald 2:07
Anthony Dodd Mantle 1:45

These times are approximates!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 January, 2013, 08:13:09 PM

US Extras:

Mega-City Masters: 35 Years of Judge Dredd (HD; 14:27)

Day of Chaos: The Visual Effects of Dredd (HD; 15:21
Dredd Featurette (HD; 1:53) is really little more than a gussied up trailer.

Dredd's Gear (HD; 2:31)

The 3rd Dimension (HD; 2:00)

Welcome to Peachtrees (HD; 2:33)

Dredd Motion Comic Prequel (HD: 2:57)

Theatrical Trailer (HD; 2:30)
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 14 January, 2013, 08:15:20 PM
Bought, ripped to .MKV and watched on my big-ass plasma.  Happy days. Blu-ray, £13 from Tesco, incidentally.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 14 January, 2013, 08:20:11 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 14 January, 2013, 07:37:27 PM
Went to other ADSA next to my gym in Newcastle Byker. Blu-Ray sold out!

Two stacks of both in my local (Liverpool) and another stack of DVDs in the non-chart section. Either they re-stocked or there are few Dredd fans round here. >:(
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 14 January, 2013, 08:24:35 PM
Yeah, Asda in Hunts Cross and Tesco on Mather Avenue had loads. Stingy, freeloading, downloading scrotebags...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 14 January, 2013, 08:32:34 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 14 January, 2013, 07:42:14 PM
The EXTRAS are as follows:-

Dredd: 2000 AD the original - 3:22
Slo-Mo - 2:05
Welcome to Peach Trees - 2:26
The Third Dimension - 1:53
Dredd's Gear - 2:24
Dredd - 1:47
INTERVIEWS:-
Karl Urban - 5:15
Olivia Thirlby 4:12
Lena Headey 0:45
Wood Harris 2:20
Pete Travis 0:45
Alex Garland and John Wagner 5:45
Allon Reich 2:32
Andrew MacDonald 2:07
Anthony Dodd Mantle 1:45

These times are approximates!

Soooo.. .Those extras are -exactly- the same as the ones they released on the net around the time the movie came out? Bah..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 14 January, 2013, 08:37:55 PM
..oh, and as of a few minutes ago, #2 on UK iTunes..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 14 January, 2013, 08:38:22 PM
Unlike the Avengers and the Dark Knight Rises it hasn't lost any of it's magic on the small screen....love it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Daveycandlish on 14 January, 2013, 09:04:41 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 14 January, 2013, 07:42:14 PM
The EXTRAS etc.

Cheers CF!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 January, 2013, 09:31:21 PM
Very happy to see Dredd in subtitled!

(http://i.imgur.com/705DC.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 January, 2013, 09:34:49 PM
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q219/Greenracing/a49dbd01.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 14 January, 2013, 09:42:58 PM
Feck it where's mine Amazon? :-* :'(

At least i got my star wars comic from DH but it's not that much compensation.

I hope it's here termorrer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 January, 2013, 10:03:17 PM
Oh love that new quote from Dredd "Can't execute a perp on 99%"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 14 January, 2013, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 14 January, 2013, 08:13:09 PM

US Extras:

Mega-City Masters: 35 Years of Judge Dredd (HD; 14:27)

Day of Chaos: The Visual Effects of Dredd (HD; 15:21
Dredd Featurette (HD; 1:53) is really little more than a gussied up trailer.

Dredd's Gear (HD; 2:31)

The 3rd Dimension (HD; 2:00)

Welcome to Peachtrees (HD; 2:33)

Dredd Motion Comic Prequel (HD: 2:57)

Theatrical Trailer (HD; 2:30)

Dang. Was hoping the motion comic was gonna be on the UK release, and some of those US extra's look pretty meaty.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 January, 2013, 10:39:00 PM
Awesome!!!!! 

(http://i.imgur.com/lAcNh.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 14 January, 2013, 10:39:38 PM
The Megacity Masters bit is nice with a fair bit of Carlos, pretty sure the rest is just stuff that was on the web.

Shame they didn't (or couldn't) include the SDCC panel, or the LFCC panel, or the Reuters piece from the fan screening.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 15 January, 2013, 01:21:14 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 14 January, 2013, 06:10:14 PM
Come over watch it at mine.

Thanks for the offer mate.  The pub quiz was good.  Just finished watching the DVD now.  The blu-ray should be with me in a couple of days. 

It's a different experience in 2D, eh?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 15 January, 2013, 01:26:14 AM
Listen man. Those who know think there is no reason it didn't put bums on seats. Every critic could not fault it. The end of the day they're all flabbergasted it didn't do as well as it could have done. Bothers me less now UNO! got 2D dvd.  Watshing it now. Fab title menu music with encouraging images. Lena and Olive. herr herr.
Massive Seagull got so much promise and yeah, without SFX it'll remain ambiguous. Luckily I got BBC SFX HORROR tape. Not gonna fill every corner tho is it?

"Urban speaks... convulsing, choking..."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 15 January, 2013, 02:16:30 AM
Good grief, it's still such a thrill to see Dredd powering through the traffic on his lawmaster.  I don't care about the non-futuristic vehicles.  The hairs still stand up on the back if my neck as the sirens blare, and the engine roars.  The first thing I did when the film finished was put it back on again just to see that bike in action.

Love it! 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 15 January, 2013, 02:53:37 AM
Got to be the best opening to film I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 January, 2013, 07:12:16 AM
iTunes'ing it now. Can't wait for the locals dragging their feet to get the stock by end of Jan. It's warming the cockles of my heart that it's flying off the shelves..  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 15 January, 2013, 07:49:00 AM
Quote from: Hoagy on 15 January, 2013, 01:26:14 AM
Listen man. Those who know think there is no reason it didn't put bums on seats. Every critic could not fault it. The end of the day they're all flabbergasted it didn't do as well as it could have done. Bothers me less now UNO! got 2D dvd.  Watshing it now. Fab title menu music with encouraging images. Lena and Olive. herr herr.
Massive Seagull got so much promise and yeah, without SFX it'll remain ambiguous. Luckily I got BBC SFX HORROR tape. Not gonna fill every corner tho is it?

"Urban speaks... convulsing, choking..."

Ummm... What?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 January, 2013, 08:04:25 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 15 January, 2013, 07:49:00 AM
Quote from: Hoagy on 15 January, 2013, 01:26:14 AM
Listen man. Those who know think there is no reason it didn't put bums on seats. Every critic could not fault it. The end of the day they're all flabbergasted it didn't do as well as it could have done. Bothers me less now UNO! got 2D dvd.  Watshing it now. Fab title menu music with encouraging images. Lena and Olive. herr herr.
Massive Seagull got so much promise and yeah, without SFX it'll remain ambiguous. Luckily I got BBC SFX HORROR tape. Not gonna fill every corner tho is it?

"Urban speaks... convulsing, choking..."

Ummm... What?

Don't.. You'll make him angry..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 January, 2013, 08:33:29 AM
The film is fucking awesome! Watch it again tonight!

Then 3D treatment at parents next week!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 15 January, 2013, 11:16:43 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 15 January, 2013, 02:16:30 AMGood grief, it's still such a thrill to see Dredd powering through the traffic on his lawmaster.  I don't care about the non-futuristic vehicles.
In hindsight, I like the idea that in a devastated future, people would have to recycle and keep old stuff going for longer. Makes a lot of sense. Plus I like my sci-fi 'used' versus the shiny shiny of Star Trek.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 January, 2013, 11:36:39 AM
I don't have any problem with the use of contemporary vehicles - it makes the world of Dredd feel much more tangible and real. It totally suited the type of film they were making. Frankly it seems to me a very modern, post-Children of Men, post-District 9 sci-fi look. I even liked the Justice Department landrovers, which really gave me a Robocop vibe, and I love the overhead shots of the spaghetti junctions - just that little bit crazier than our own reality.

By contrast something like the recent Total Recall remake, while obviously a lot more lavish, seemed very generic and quite dated, like a 1990s/1980s vision of the future that we've seen many times before. The 1995 Dredd film had a similarly generic, unmemorable look - save for a few wide shots that admittedly looked great.

If I had to nitpick with the realisation of the city in Dredd it's that it was almost too subtle - there are a lot of shots - including the opening bike chase and the night scenes of Lex and co on their bikes - that 99% of people watching wouldn't even notice had been digitally expanded and added to. I would have liked to have seen busier backgrounds overall. And I do dislike that specific van - it just looks a bit weedy - something chunkier would have been preferable.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 15 January, 2013, 12:54:05 PM
Can't get enough of that opening!!!
Anyone spot any other references or nods??
Screen grabs of the references would be cool, zoom and full screen as I can't find Goaty's supposed third reference.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 January, 2013, 12:55:13 PM
I might finally be able to spot my 'cameo' now...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 January, 2013, 01:29:50 PM
Maybe it is just a radiator.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 January, 2013, 01:39:24 PM
Was there Radiator graffiti at first Goaty scene when man take slo-mo before fell to dead?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 15 January, 2013, 01:43:39 PM
Okay Rich?
I came in from pub.
Was talking to a mate on facebook about Dredd.
Forgot we were talking about a project we are up to too, in the cop + paste.
No editing function on this thread so, it remains this strange jarring quote from facebook.
Ha!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 January, 2013, 01:44:00 PM
QuoteMaybe it is just a radiator.

That did cross my mind - I remember joking about it with someone at the fan screening.

I kind of wish I'd registered on this site with my real name, because trying to explain it to people is tricky.

QuoteWas there Radiator graffiti at first Goaty scene when man take slo-mo before fell to dead?

Yeah that's the bit apparently. There is some grafitti beginning with 'R' on the bottom right of the frame during the slo mo POV shot, but I've never been able to work out what it says.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 January, 2013, 01:47:35 PM
Dredd's Last Stand?
Quote
As Dredd arrives on DVD and Blu-ray, here's our last chance to give the film the commercial success it deserves...

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd/24078/dredds-last-stand (http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd/24078/dredds-last-stand)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 15 January, 2013, 02:25:28 PM
Great to see the love for DREDD is strong out there, hopefully it translates into some commercial success.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 15 January, 2013, 03:18:37 PM
I was actually hoping there would be a few more movie sites picking up on the surprising success of Dredd thus far on home video and help keep the ball rolling.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 15 January, 2013, 06:24:27 PM
Watched it again last night and enjoyed it just as much as my numerous cinema visits.

What struck me and my wife most was just how perfect Urban is as Dredd. I love how he unnecessarily says out loud the things he's doing, like "Basic field dressing" and "Reload".

Just like Dredd in the comic saying "Leg shot" or "Bike cannon".

I reeeeeeaaaaaaaally hope we get a sequel, this crew deserves to give us more Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 January, 2013, 06:38:36 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 15 January, 2013, 06:24:27 PM
I love how he unnecessarily says out loud the things he's doing, like "Basic field dressing" and "Reload".

Just like Dredd in the comic saying "Leg shot" or "Bike cannon".


And it works so well too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 15 January, 2013, 07:27:33 PM
Woohoo!  3D Blu-ray turned up today.  Thank god for that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 15 January, 2013, 07:54:00 PM
When he says, " Basic field dressing," I felt he was ever the teacher in the assessment explaining to Anderson. It works either way I suppose.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 15 January, 2013, 08:12:38 PM
I like the thinking out loud theory more. Hadn't really thought about it until now but that is really cool.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 15 January, 2013, 08:13:22 PM
A friend tracked down a blu ray copy in cardiff after trying 4 supermarkets. It was the last copy in the 5th. This has to be good right ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 15 January, 2013, 10:03:48 PM
Just saw Dredd on dvd this time. It really is such an awesome film. Karl Urban and Olivia Thirlby just nail the characters.Even better second time around and now I can watch it again and again. I hope they make a second one though it certainly deserves it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 January, 2013, 11:06:22 PM
Nope, still can't find my name check. If anyone spots 'radiator', please let me know.

Alex Garland started to tell me exactly where it was, but got interrupted just before. All I know is that its somewhere around the part where the three dealers get thrown over the balcony.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 16 January, 2013, 03:09:48 AM
I'm liking the sig Rads :] Sqwarxx!! :D

Um I did explain that okay?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 16 January, 2013, 07:19:42 AM
Quote from: radiator on 15 January, 2013, 11:06:22 PM
Nope, still can't find my name check. If anyone spots 'radiator', please let me know.

Alex Garland started to tell me exactly where it was, but got interrupted just before. All I know is that its somewhere around the part where the three dealers get thrown over the balcony.

(http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8693/radiatorm.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 16 January, 2013, 07:29:48 AM
Poster for Dave the Orang-outang.

(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/1609/daven.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 16 January, 2013, 08:36:59 AM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 16 January, 2013, 07:29:48 AM
Poster for Dave the Orang-outang.

(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/1609/daven.png)

Wow, well spotted!  Like Radiators sig, that's near impossible to see!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 January, 2013, 09:39:08 AM
DAVE!...NICE FIND.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 January, 2013, 10:05:13 AM
Dave!!!! Nice find and of Radiator too!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 16 January, 2013, 10:55:35 AM
Highly unlikely a lowly squaxx such as I should get a nose in but, here's looking at me, kids! :lol:
Love the Radiator graffiti and Dave poster.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 16 January, 2013, 10:59:49 AM
Ace, thanks!

The gift that keeps on giving.

It's fucking great owning it, isn't it? For some reason, everything about the film looks so much sharper and more saturated on my TV - I can see so much more detail in every frame, and really appreciate the shot composition - reminds me of the time I saw it on a Vue Xtreme screen.

What a film!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 16 January, 2013, 12:16:24 PM
Quote from: radiator on 16 January, 2013, 10:59:49 AM
Ace, thanks!

The gift that keeps on giving.

It's fucking great owning it, isn't it?

It really, really is! I knew it would be, but having it sitting there to watch on command is just fantastic. Never been happier to own a movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 16 January, 2013, 01:12:51 PM
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2012/09/21/wood-harris-dredd-judge-dredd-my-first-time

Don't know if this has been posted already but Kay, one of Ma Ma's baddies likes comic books and paints!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 16 January, 2013, 01:16:42 PM
This months sci-fi magazine features a few other tit bits I'm not sure anyone has picked up on. Apparently a Judge Death air freshner can be spotted in the van at the begining.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 January, 2013, 06:52:14 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 16 January, 2013, 07:19:42 AM
Quote from: radiator on 15 January, 2013, 11:06:22 PM
Nope, still can't find my name check. If anyone spots 'radiator', please let me know.

Alex Garland started to tell me exactly where it was, but got interrupted just before. All I know is that its somewhere around the part where the three dealers get thrown over the balcony.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8693/radiatorm.png

Good spot. I was concentrating on the actual fall so completely missed it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 January, 2013, 07:16:28 PM
Be nice if it is. It was in Dredd IMDB board.

bass88 -
So I've just been talking to the manager of the entertainment division in my localTesco. She says that Dredd is the fastest selling DVD / Bluray they ever had. I wonder if the same is true elsewhere.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 January, 2013, 11:43:17 PM
Never mind all that... here's the Dredd workout routine...

http://www.menshealth.co.uk/building-muscle/abs-workout/judge-dredd-core-workout (http://www.menshealth.co.uk/building-muscle/abs-workout/judge-dredd-core-workout)

(http://www.menshealth.co.uk/cm/menshealthuk/images/Ym/Bent-Over-Row.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 January, 2013, 11:48:05 PM
I bought that copy before the last Demoncon and showed it to the artist involved, who was in attendance. Very interesting!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 17 January, 2013, 12:12:14 AM
 :o

Wow.  I'm going to follow that routine before I next get into uniform.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 17 January, 2013, 02:20:28 AM
Ha, that's weird. I think Dredd would work out by punching perps in the face and running from explosions.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 January, 2013, 06:54:39 AM
That's good is it, in US.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dredd-buries-frankenweenie-home-video-413109 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dredd-buries-frankenweenie-home-video-413109)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 17 January, 2013, 08:32:13 AM
Very good, especially as it's the US.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 17 January, 2013, 10:14:01 AM
Too early to get my hopes up,I'm gettimg more optimistic though...going great guns,c'mon yanks do us proud
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 January, 2013, 01:24:05 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 16 January, 2013, 01:16:42 PM
This months sci-fi magazine features a few other tit bits I'm not sure anyone has picked up on. Apparently a Judge Death air freshner can be spotted in the van at the begining.

It is there.. BUT...

It is ONLY there in the first shot of the van's interior. In subsequent shot's it's replaced with something else. This is because that it might have implications regarding a sequel including Death.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 January, 2013, 06:31:48 PM
Went to HMV Newcastle sold out, but staff recommend me to Judge Dredd HMV Newcastle tonight. Both sold out! But staff recommend me to Judge Dredd DVD! I signing "Sod Off" to him! Haha!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 January, 2013, 06:34:25 PM
Bloody mobile! Where the mod??
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklambo on 17 January, 2013, 06:57:40 PM
Have a look at the building in this clip...really could be the inside of a Mega Block.. :o
http://philipbloom.net/2012/10/12/ponte/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 January, 2013, 06:59:19 PM
Lovely sight at HMV Newcastle!

(http://i.imgur.com/KCnw1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 17 January, 2013, 07:04:16 PM
That's amazing. So chuffed. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 January, 2013, 07:47:29 PM
Quote from: nicklambo on 17 January, 2013, 06:57:40 PM
Have a look at the building in this clip...really could be the inside of a Mega Block.. :o
http://philipbloom.net/2012/10/12/ponte/

Potential location for that 'inevitable' sequel.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 January, 2013, 07:49:20 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 January, 2013, 07:47:29 PM

Potential location for that 'inevitable' sequel.

Or use the Mad Max 4 Fury Road locations after they finished with it?  ;) (good for Cursed Earth mission?)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 January, 2013, 07:59:19 PM
Just seen my first tv advert for the disc. It was on during American Horror Story: Asylum

4* BRILLIANT, BRUTAL, A TOTAL BLAST - Q

THE COOLEST COMIC BOOK MOVIE OF YHE YEAR - Daily Star Sunday

THE REAL DEAL - Loaded

FAST, FURIOUS AND BURSTING WITH THRILLS 10/10 - Alan Frank Daily Star
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 17 January, 2013, 08:27:54 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 17 January, 2013, 07:49:20 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 January, 2013, 07:47:29 PM

Potential location for that 'inevitable' sequel.

Or use the Mad Max 4 Fury Road locations after they finished with it?  ;) (good for Cursed Earth mission?)

Hell no. Any movie that goes to Namibia turns into a massive clusterfuck. MM4 was no exception. Apparantly what they wasted on that was enough money to shoot 47 Death Race 2's..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 January, 2013, 08:38:01 PM


Hence Warner Bros. flying a special envoy out to supervise the shooting schedule.

Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 17 January, 2013, 09:15:16 PM
Ventured into Asda's Walton branch today (don't ask) and was pleased to see they'd sold out of the blu-ray and only had a handful of DVDs left.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 17 January, 2013, 09:54:28 PM
same in Edinburgh, newhaven. Asda was sold out of blu ray , had about 6 dvd's left  wedensday/thursday
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MattJW on 17 January, 2013, 11:04:12 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 17 January, 2013, 06:59:19 PM
Lovely sight at HMV Newcastle!

(http://i.imgur.com/KCnw1.jpg)

Good job for Dredd that HMV stores are still operating (for now...)!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 17 January, 2013, 11:18:53 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 January, 2013, 08:27:54 PM
Hell no. Any movie that goes to Namibia turns into a massive clusterfuck.

*coughcough*dustdevil*cough*

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 18 January, 2013, 12:30:40 AM
Let's just hope they all these stores that have sold out didn't only order 5 copies each.
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 18 January, 2013, 01:44:29 AM
Quote from: Noisybast on 17 January, 2013, 09:15:16 PM
Ventured into Asda's Walton branch today (don't ask) and was pleased to see they'd sold out of the blu-ray and only had a handful of DVDs left.

... .

"You know how often we get a Judge up in Walton?!"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 18 January, 2013, 02:15:34 AM
best quote EVER STAN 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 January, 2013, 02:34:34 AM
Please tell me you live on Walton's Mountain :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 18 January, 2013, 09:38:30 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 17 January, 2013, 11:18:53 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 January, 2013, 08:27:54 PM
Hell no. Any movie that goes to Namibia turns into a massive clusterfuck.

*coughcough*dustdevil*cough*

Cheers

Jim

I can bet you that was a massive clusterfuck (to shoot..) regardless of the end result..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 January, 2013, 09:52:46 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 18 January, 2013, 09:38:30 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 17 January, 2013, 11:18:53 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 January, 2013, 08:27:54 PM
Hell no. Any movie that goes to Namibia turns into a massive clusterfuck.

*coughcough*dustdevil*cough*

Cheers

Jim

I can bet you that was a massive clusterfuck (to shoot..) regardless of the end result..

Speak of the Devil,

If you were to go back in time and meet the younger version of yourself about to make DUST DEVIL, what advice would you give him?

I'd probably advise him not to do it! Career-wise I would have been in a much better place had I just made a HARDWARE sequel or done something a bit more commercial like the JUDGE DREDD (1995) movie I was offered. Doing something as uncommercial as DUST DEVIL at that point in my career was probably arrogant. On the other hand, it was probably the only opportunity I would have ever had to make that particular movie. 




http://www.money-into-light.com/2012/07/richard-stanley-talks-to-paul-rowlands_14.html?m=1


That would've made Stanley the only film-maker to have done two 2000AD/Judge Dredd films.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 18 January, 2013, 09:54:48 AM
Hardware is excelent btw!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 18 January, 2013, 11:09:27 AM
Guess what's in at number 10...   :'(

http://io9.com/5976662/10-decent-movies-that-were-doomed-by-unfair-memes?utm_source=io9.com&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=recirculation (http://io9.com/5976662/10-decent-movies-that-were-doomed-by-unfair-memes?utm_source=io9.com&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=recirculation)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 18 January, 2013, 11:12:18 AM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 18 January, 2013, 09:54:48 AM
Hardware is excelent btw!  :D

Yes, it is. I spent a big chunk of 1992 trying to sell a comic book sequel written by me, illustrated by Peter Doherty, with covers by Duncan Fegredo. Wasn't to be, sadly...

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 January, 2013, 01:05:02 PM
Quote from: Noisybast on 17 January, 2013, 09:15:16 PM
Ventured into Asda's Walton branch today (don't ask) and was pleased to see they'd sold out of the blu-ray and only had a handful of DVDs left.

Sainsbury's had a fair amount of DVDs but sold out of the Blu-Rays on display, I was told they'd just had a new batch but hadn't put them out yet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 18 January, 2013, 02:14:18 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 18 January, 2013, 12:30:40 AM
Let's just hope they all these stores that have sold out didn't only order 5 copies each.
I think to get to no1 in the tesco charts on dvd and bluray it
would of have to of sold more than 5 copys
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 18 January, 2013, 02:24:08 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned but the blu-ray is £11 on amazon at the moment, in stock too
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 18 January, 2013, 02:41:03 PM
QuoteNot sure if this has been mentioned but the blu-ray is £11 on amazon at the moment, in stock too

Hopefully that should finally see it knock the incumbent (and overrated and undeserving) no.1 Blu Ray - Skyfall - off the top spot!

2000 AD asked yesterday via their facebook page if anyone had any reports of DREDD selling out in their town - there are currently 107 comments, the majority of which say "Yes'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 18 January, 2013, 02:53:08 PM
My local Tesco STILL hasn't got any new DVD or Blurays in yet....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 January, 2013, 04:48:34 PM
Quote from: radiator on 18 January, 2013, 02:41:03 PM
Hopefully that should finally see it knock the incumbent (and overrated and undeserving) no.1 Blu Ray - Skyfall - off the top spot!


It's finally beaten that stubborn b'stard (it had done for about an hour previously).


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cookyman on 18 January, 2013, 05:16:35 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 17 January, 2013, 11:18:53 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 January, 2013, 08:27:54 PM
Hell no. Any movie that goes to Namibia turns into a massive clusterfuck.

*coughcough*dustdevil*cough*

Cheers

Jim

My very small claim to fame is that I attended the World Premiere of Hardware in 1990 whilst based in London with the Army. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 18 January, 2013, 05:18:06 PM
Quote from: Cookyman on 18 January, 2013, 05:16:35 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 17 January, 2013, 11:18:53 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 January, 2013, 08:27:54 PM
Hell no. Any movie that goes to Namibia turns into a massive clusterfuck.

*coughcough*dustdevil*cough*

Cheers

Jim

My very small claim to fame is that I attended the World Premiere of Hardware in 1990 whilst based in London with the Army.

Crowd that unruly, huh?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 19 January, 2013, 10:02:36 PM
When is Dredd released in Japan?
Anyone know?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 January, 2013, 10:11:42 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 19 January, 2013, 10:02:36 PM
When is Dredd released in Japan?
Anyone know?


http://www.judge-dredd.jp
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 19 January, 2013, 10:52:01 PM
Watched it on the Blu-Ray at last tonight and think I've spotted something new...

Right, think about the two guys who go into the Level 39 Drug Den - it's a black guy and a long haired white guy...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/Wellsy/vlcsnap-2013-01-19-22h38m14s90_zpsb0f7d429.png)

Check out the juves that pull the guns on Dredd and Anderson later on...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/Wellsy/vlcsnap-2013-01-19-22h40m52s133_zps2930df69.png)

I reckon they're the younger brothers of the perps from the drug den.

Dredd - the film that keeps on giving!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 19 January, 2013, 11:45:06 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 January, 2013, 10:11:42 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 19 January, 2013, 10:02:36 PM
When is Dredd released in Japan?
Anyone know?


http://www.judge-dredd.jp

Cheers Joe!

Anyone fancy keeping an eye on Japanese box office! Be interested to see how it does in Hondo.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 January, 2013, 11:47:05 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 19 January, 2013, 11:45:06 PM
Anyone fancy keeping an eye on Japanese box office! Be interested to see how it does in Hondo.

With that good Japanese trailer? Hope so...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 20 January, 2013, 02:25:36 PM
Now the proud owner of one Dredd DVD which arrived in the post yesterday.Having already watched it 14 times at the cinema I naturally sat down to watch it immediately  :D .Yup still love it.

One thing though, I noticed the extreme left and right were chopped a bit (even though I'm watching it in widescreen on a widescreen TV).When Ma-ma is making her speech to peach trees  on the mic, when Dredd is close up interogating Kay and part of Lex's 'meat grinder' take on Mega City one, I can barely see their mouths and I don't see the Joe Soap billboard at all because its chopped.Bit puzzled by this.Maybe all films are slightly chopped when converted to dvd and I've never noticed before or is it something else??Anyone else have this problem?

Went into HMV Blackpool today (a big store) and Dredd is well advertised, but couldn't find a copy.They had completely sold out!Yes !The guy said it sold out very quickly too.Excellent.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 January, 2013, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 20 January, 2013, 02:25:36 PM
One thing though, I noticed the extreme left and right were chopped a bit (even though I'm watching it in widescreen on a widescreen TV).


I've both US and UK versions and neither are chopped at the sides. Full 2.40:1




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: thelawgiver on 20 January, 2013, 02:35:47 PM
Haven't been on this forum for a number of weeks. Watched the Dredd film yesterday after searching for it all over (the HMV and shops in York didn't stock the DVD, and I had to walk miles out to a Sainsburys to buy the Dredd DVD).

I know most people will have said their opinions on the film and that I'm coming late to the table. But I just wanted to state my opinions and query a few things about the film.

- Dredd felt to be like a great film but with the potential to spawn much much better sequels with much bigger budgets.
- Did Dredd have a relatively small budget???
- I loved Karl Urban as Dredd! I hope that a better sequel script will give Urban chance to say more snarled and defiant Eastwood-esque lines as Dredd.
- I wasn't crazy about the direction of the film. But the sets were excellent. The designs for thelawgiver, the judges outfits etcetera were perfect. I also respected that they may have had a lower budget than most blockbuster film productions and so kept it confined to the one mega block.
- I also have to say I still wouldn't have cast Olivia Thirlby as Anderson though she did an adequate job. (I would have cast Amber Heard).
- Basically; for a sequel I would like a new scriptwriter and director. I would also like Dredd roaming a more expanded mega city with additional 'big' actors as other characters or villains. I would take a leaf out of the book of Star Trek/Star Trek; Into Darkness by adding western elements to Dredd sequels. Dredd is the archetypal western lawman and upholder of morals and justice. If the budget for the sequel can't reach to the expansive CGI of the Mega City then why not set the sequel in the Cursed Earth (again reaching into western sensibilities). But at the end of the day Dredd is a film like Mad Max crying out for an exploratory sequel.

PS is it just me or did the quality of the DVD leave something to be desired compared to the excellent quality of my Dredd cinema experience.     
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 20 January, 2013, 03:37:32 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 January, 2013, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 20 January, 2013, 02:25:36 PM
One thing though, I noticed the extreme left and right were chopped a bit (even though I'm watching it in widescreen on a widescreen TV).


I've both US and UK versions and neither are chopped at the sides. Full 2.40:1

Your right.Just used my computer to watch it, there is actually a LOT more chopped off than I thought because it plays normally on the laptop.For some reason when using my Xbox 360(dvd player has stopped working) it chops the sides ,even in widescreen format.Can't understand why.Any techies out there know how to fix it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 20 January, 2013, 03:42:49 PM
Ignore last post -fixed it.X-Box was set to normal screen -doh  :-[ :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 20 January, 2013, 05:12:39 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 20 January, 2013, 03:42:49 PM
Ignore last post -fixed it.X-Box was set to normal screen -doh  :-[ :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIrhVo1WA78
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 21 January, 2013, 12:42:18 PM
I noticed the whole movie was on you tube in portuguese  >:( they better take it off
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buddy on 21 January, 2013, 06:01:57 PM
With all the DREDD DVD love goin on they (whoever 'they' are) need to re-release DREDD in the cinema (even for a limited time) to give all the reformed doubters a chance to see it on the big screen (maybe not ALL in 3D this time) and give it a shot at a sequel.

Dredd is gettin universal praise from all sides... act quick! Release it again!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 21 January, 2013, 07:53:10 PM
It's not going to happen.

A theatrical re-release is even less likely than the practically non-existent option of a theatrical sequel.


On another note, Arnold's new R-rated pic for Lionsgate has not opened well.

$6m opening weekend box-office, similar to Dredd's take.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/21/the-last-stand-bombed-arnold-schwarzenegger_n_2519725.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/21/the-last-stand-bombed-arnold-schwarzenegger_n_2519725.html)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 January, 2013, 08:27:44 PM


It'd cost more to re-release it theatrically.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 21 January, 2013, 09:28:26 PM
Lionsgate are so bad at marketing films it's unbelievable.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 21 January, 2013, 09:38:04 PM
They did alright with Hunger Games and Texas Chainsaw.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 January, 2013, 09:41:59 PM
And Saw series
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 January, 2013, 09:43:22 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 21 January, 2013, 09:28:26 PM
Lionsgate are so bad at marketing films it's unbelievable.


Maybe no one wants to see Arnie in anything other than a Terminator film.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 21 January, 2013, 09:56:47 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 January, 2013, 09:43:22 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 21 January, 2013, 09:28:26 PM
Lionsgate are so bad at marketing films it's unbelievable.


Maybe no one wants to see Arnie in anything other than a Terminator film.

At his age? There'd have to be some daft reason for why a robot would look old. I'd much rather see him play really old Conan. So Terry Pratchett's Cohen basically
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 January, 2013, 10:01:51 PM


He'll be in the next Terminator.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 21 January, 2013, 10:08:09 PM
Quote from: Pops on 21 January, 2013, 09:56:47 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 January, 2013, 09:43:22 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 21 January, 2013, 09:28:26 PM
Lionsgate are so bad at marketing films it's unbelievable.


Maybe no one wants to see Arnie in anything other than a Terminator film.

At his age? There'd have to be some daft reason for why a robot would look old. I'd much rather see him play really old Conan. So Terry Pratchett's Cohen basically

He's not just a robot though, is he?

Robot frame covered in flesh, it just usually gets destroyed before it has the chance to age.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be terrible, just there's no reason he couldn't have been lying around for 30 years, unused and the flesh has aged around him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 January, 2013, 10:14:22 PM


He needs to play this guy,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kayFrIR-Qfw&t=0m58s
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 21 January, 2013, 10:22:40 PM
Heh. I love that clip.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 21 January, 2013, 10:58:48 PM
A new write up about the film, saying why I think it is a good adaptation. You, fellow fans, will possibly have other reasons that I don't mention - I could easily have said more but I think the previous one lacked focus.

http://judgetutorsemple.wordpress.com/2013/01/21/why-dredd-2012-is-a-good-comic-book-adaptation-spoilers-medium-out-of-context/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 21 January, 2013, 11:21:10 PM
I think Arnold is still a bit more liked then that though. Did you see the final poster? It was absolute crap and really lazy. What I saw of their promotion on the facebook page was almost identical to Dredd's. They just use a cut and paste tactic that really doesn't seem to be working that well.

I am pretty stumped about why Texas Chainsaw, Saw and Hunger Games did well as they all looked as bad as they were. (Haven't actually seen Texas Chainsaw but looking at reviews it sounds like I don't want to)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 January, 2013, 11:55:36 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 21 January, 2013, 11:21:10 PM
I am pretty stumped about why Texas Chainsaw, Saw and Hunger Games did well as they all looked as bad as they were.


Horror and Jennnifer Lawrence always sells.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 22 January, 2013, 12:50:11 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 January, 2013, 09:43:22 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 21 January, 2013, 09:28:26 PM
Lionsgate are so bad at marketing films it's unbelievable.


Maybe no one wants to see Arnie in anything other than a Terminator film.

Or maybe no one wants to see Johnny Knoxville, period.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dog Deever on 22 January, 2013, 03:03:07 AM
I watched Dredd for the first time today. I got it on DVD. I liked it. Sure, the uniform was too bulky, the helmet too wide and the 'lawmaster' a bit poopy, but...
... so what?

Bring on the sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 22 January, 2013, 06:34:30 AM
Why does dredd say at the beginning of this great movie 800 million people etc when it reads 400
million on the back of the dvd cover. Could someone tell me why as its driving me nuts lol  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 January, 2013, 06:53:47 AM
In those few months between the theatrical release and the home cinema release the Dark Judges had been to town ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 22 January, 2013, 08:39:17 AM
Quote from: hazy efc on 22 January, 2013, 06:34:30 AM
Why does dredd say at the beginning of this great movie 800 million people etc when it reads 400
million on the back of the dvd cover. Could someone tell me why as its driving me nuts lol  :thumbsup:

It's 400 in the 2D version.. 800 in the 3D..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 22 January, 2013, 08:59:33 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 22 January, 2013, 08:39:17 AM
It's 400 in the 2D version.. 800 in the 3D..

:D Roflcopter.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 22 January, 2013, 10:45:13 AM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 22 January, 2013, 08:59:33 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 22 January, 2013, 08:39:17 AM
It's 400 in the 2D version.. 800 in the 3D..

:D Roflcopter.

Genius!!   :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 January, 2013, 02:28:33 PM
My bro just got Dredd 3D bluray, he just put it on. Wait for his text as previous he wasn't sure of watch the film, if it good enough, told him, trust me!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 January, 2013, 02:51:26 PM
Nice

LIONSGATE HOME ENTERTAINMENT'S DREDD TOPS SALES CHARTS IN 3-D BLU-RAY, DVD AND DIGITAL DOWNLOADS, BIGGEST HOME ENTERTAINMENT NEW RELEASE OF THE YEAR

http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=PR&Date=20130122&ID=16019857&industry=IND_MEDIA&isub= (http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=PR&Date=20130122&ID=16019857&industry=IND_MEDIA&isub=)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 January, 2013, 02:53:47 PM
650,000 units sold!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 22 January, 2013, 03:25:43 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 22 January, 2013, 02:51:26 PM
Nice

LIONSGATE HOME ENTERTAINMENT'S DREDD TOPS SALES CHARTS IN 3-D BLU-RAY, DVD AND DIGITAL DOWNLOADS, BIGGEST HOME ENTERTAINMENT NEW RELEASE OF THE YEAR

http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=PR&Date=20130122&ID=16019857&industry=IND_MEDIA&isub= (http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=PR&Date=20130122&ID=16019857&industry=IND_MEDIA&isub=)




Fantastic news!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 January, 2013, 03:33:31 PM
Not a bad start.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 22 January, 2013, 04:04:18 PM
Is that the biggest release of the year as in 2013? Not knocking its a grand start but 'Biggest release in 22 days' doesn't have the same ring ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 22 January, 2013, 04:06:49 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 22 January, 2013, 04:04:18 PM
Is that the biggest release of the year as in 2013? Not knocking its a grand start but 'Biggest release in 22 days' doesn't have the same ring ;)

Yes! Best selling DVD/Bluray of the last three weeks! In your FACE, Avatar...!

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 January, 2013, 04:09:52 PM
Is that just America I take it? Awesome. I imagine that by the time they got those results it would have sold even more, and hopefully being number 1 will get more people to check it out who wouldn't of previously. Plus sales in other countries.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 January, 2013, 04:16:53 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 January, 2013, 04:09:52 PM
Is that just America I take it? Awesome. I imagine that by the time they got those results it would have sold even more, and hopefully being number 1 will get more people to check it out who wouldn't of previously. Plus sales in other countries.

Yeah, a biggest word of mouth!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 22 January, 2013, 04:34:29 PM
From Planet replicas FB page:
This is great !!!! By comparison ' The Amazing Spiderman' shifted 535,828 units in its first week - making $9,623,471in sales, so Dredd has outsold it by 120,000 odd already... ( Source:http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2012/SPID4-DVD.php)

Not sure how theoretical the $9,623,471 sales are for Spiderman ( maybe Joe Soap can clarify?) but if its the roughly same for Dredd, that's a nice little extra chunk for a weeks work.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 22 January, 2013, 04:44:13 PM
I'm calling it now: if we continue to see those kinds of sales figures and Dredd remains a steady seller, then we will be getting a sequel. It just needs to maintain making money and earning a good reputation.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 January, 2013, 04:47:05 PM
QuoteI'm calling it now: if we continue to see those kinds of sales figures and Dredd remains a steady seller, then we will be getting a sequel. It just needs to maintain making money and earning a good reputation.

I don't know how these things work, but I'm guessing Dredd will have to sell a hell of a lot more - literally millions more - to even raise the possibility of a sequel.

But as I say - it's a good start. Doubly satisfying that it outsold The Amazing Spider-man - a movie that is by all accounts dreadful, and in the world of comic book adaptations is the antithesis of Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 22 January, 2013, 04:48:02 PM
Damn you Rusty, don't get peoples hopes up like that. :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 22 January, 2013, 04:49:16 PM
Are we comparing Spidermans DVD sales with Dredd combined DVD/Bluray sales here ? Doesn't seem fair.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 22 January, 2013, 04:50:14 PM
'Sales tracking currently includes only the DVD versions of the movie. Blu-ray sales are not included at this time.'

It would seem so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 22 January, 2013, 04:51:05 PM
Same story over at CBM.

Great news and well deserved.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 22 January, 2013, 04:54:38 PM
I don't wish to be a party pooper, but I'm noticing a glut of slightly overoptimistic speculation here. This, in turn, is being reported as 'fact' elsewhere by those who've not yet grasped the nature of this section of the messageboard. Rumour control, people...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 22 January, 2013, 04:57:51 PM
Don't listen to Partypoope-R, revel in gleeful ignorant optimism like me! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 January, 2013, 04:59:51 PM
I'm just chuffed that a quality movie is finding it's audience.

I've long ago come to terms with the fact there won't be a sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 January, 2013, 05:22:37 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 22 January, 2013, 04:50:14 PM
'Sales tracking currently includes only the DVD versions of the movie. Blu-ray sales are not included at this time.'


Since 48% of Dredd's sales were blu-ray that would amount to almost an equal amount of blu-rays sold as DVDs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 22 January, 2013, 05:23:03 PM
Quote from: radiator on 22 January, 2013, 04:59:51 PM
I'm just chuffed that a quality movie is finding it's audience.

I've long ago come to terms with the fact there won't be a sequel.
Pretty much the same way I feel. You never know, though: good home sales, and a significant cult following and reputation could see a sequel green lit. It is entirely possible. We've seen lesser renowned, and poorer quality films with similar box office results as Dredd get a sequel relatively quickly. I wouldn't completely rule it out. Those sales are encouraging, though (if indeed they are accurate of course).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 22 January, 2013, 05:27:32 PM
I have a horrid feeling I'm just going to end up repeating myself in a horrific feedback loop, not unlike Groundhog Day but with the only release from the torture being the kiss of sweet, sweet death.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 22 January, 2013, 05:34:51 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 22 January, 2013, 04:44:13 PM
I'm calling it now: if we continue to see those kinds of sales figures and Dredd remains a steady seller, then we will be getting a sequel. It just needs to maintain making money and earning a good reputation.
Just like Serenity!

Oh.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 22 January, 2013, 05:41:37 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 22 January, 2013, 05:34:51 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 22 January, 2013, 04:44:13 PM
I'm calling it now: if we continue to see those kinds of sales figures and Dredd remains a steady seller, then we will be getting a sequel. It just needs to maintain making money and earning a good reputation.
Just like Serenity!

Oh.
Serenity was a bit different, though. Started off as a TV show that was shamefully axed, but it's creator made a film for the fans to tie up all the loose ends for them. I don't think Serenity was made with sequels in mind anyway. If anything, a continuation of the TV show would be what the fans really wanted for it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 22 January, 2013, 05:43:30 PM
Anyway, change of subject. The subject is now Karl's chin, which many doubted. Look at this: perfect Joe Dredd chin, no?

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3369/64950079.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 January, 2013, 05:43:39 PM
You know there's that time of the year where new words are listed in the OED?

Maybe they should banish one at the same time... Sequel might be a good one this time around.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Trout on 22 January, 2013, 05:45:39 PM
There is no sequel. No sequel will happen. No sequel.

Films are for making money. The Dredd film failed. There will be no sequel because people who invest in films now have proof that such an investment would be foolish.

To put it another way: there will be no sequel.

To sum up: there will be no sequel.

Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 22 January, 2013, 05:51:12 PM
Quote from: Supermarine Troutfire on 22 January, 2013, 05:45:39 PM
To sum up: there will be no sequel.

So, to paraphrase: DVD/Bluray sales are so good that even now Alex Garland is CGing out the shitty vans from the theatrical print ahead of a cinema re-release while he starts work on the first of five sequels, shot back to back, pausing only to act as executive producer on a new HBO Dredd series premiering in spring 2014.

Is that a fair summary?

Cheers!

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 January, 2013, 05:54:37 PM
Don't listen to those moaners who say a sequel will never happen, let them live in their shadow filled world of negativity. Live in hope my fellow fans!

By the way, is it called a sequel if the next film comes out in 2029
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Trout on 22 January, 2013, 05:57:54 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 22 January, 2013, 05:51:12 PM
Quote from: Supermarine Troutfire on 22 January, 2013, 05:45:39 PM
To sum up: there will be no sequel.

So, to paraphrase: DVD/Bluray sales are so good that even now Alex Garland is CGing out the shitty vans from the theatrical print ahead of a cinema re-release while he starts work on the first of five sequels, shot back to back, pausing only to act as executive producer on a new HBO Dredd series premiering in spring 2014.

Is that a fair summary?

Cheers!

Jim

News sites: Jim is joking. DO NOT QUOTE HIM.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 22 January, 2013, 05:59:49 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 January, 2013, 05:54:37 PM
let them live in their shadow filled world of negativity

Or 'reality', as it's more commonly called :P We're all sat on the cave floor staring at the wall, after all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 January, 2013, 06:04:11 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 January, 2013, 05:54:37 PM
Don't listen to those moaners who say a sequel will never happen, let them live in their shadow filled world of negativity. Live in hope my fellow fans!

By the way, is it called a sequel if the next film comes out in 2029

Yeah!

My bet on 2035!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 January, 2013, 06:05:59 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 22 January, 2013, 05:59:49 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 January, 2013, 05:54:37 PM
let them live in their shadow filled world of negativity

Or 'reality', as it's more commonly called :P We're all sat on the cave floor staring at the wall, after all.


Some us still wear blinkers.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 22 January, 2013, 06:07:05 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 22 January, 2013, 06:05:59 PM
Some us still wear blinkers.

They should take that prop helmet off - they'll probably see better ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 22 January, 2013, 06:13:45 PM
Well, if people are printing unsubstantiated tittle tattle from here as news then I'd just like to mention that not only am I supremely well endowed but I am also a sensitive and caring lover. Unfortunately, I have had to give up my place in the first XV as my work on the cure for all diseases has reached such a crucial stage and it was a choice between that and continuing to fly the odd life-saving flight into the world's war torn regions for MSF. While I am rich beyond the dreams of Croesus, I don't like to think people are only interested in me for my wealth so I'll expect the lady to pay for dinner the first five times.

Contact me by PM.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 January, 2013, 06:17:01 PM
Maybe a really rich person saw Dredd and wants a sequel and so will finance it himself. That's one possible way a sequel could happen. Yeah I agree it's unlikely, but stranger things have happened so I am remaining hopeful of a sequel, no matter how many times people say it won't.

I am sure everybody felt there would never be another Dredd film after 1995, but here we are now.

I don't think anyone expected Dredd to dominate home video charts after being a flop at the box office, but it is.

And not all films are made for money either. Plenty of Independent films are made and are good, and don't make any money, but the directors continue to make films. Plus with the advances in technology it probably wouldn't be long till anyone could buy a camera relatively cheap that was capable of producing movie quality footage.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 January, 2013, 06:22:06 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 January, 2013, 06:17:01 PMPlus with the advances in technology it probably wouldn't be long till anyone could buy a camera relatively cheap that was capable of producing movie quality footage.


You all ready can.

It's the free-time and talent you can't yet buy.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 January, 2013, 06:26:23 PM
Ha, yeah but I am sure there are enough people passionate about dredd who want to help make a sequel are also quite talented. The fella that is making that new fan film, plus the recent judge minty film are both evidence of that. Karl Urban was clearly very passionate and  proud of this film I could see him wanting to do another, and of course people would need to be paid for there time, but I reckon a movie set in the cursed earth could be done on an even smaller budget then this one and still look just as good. Even more likely in a couple of years time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Trout on 22 January, 2013, 06:30:21 PM
Truly astonishing.

I am struggling to reply in a polite way so I will try to keep my mouth shut.

Except: there is no sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 January, 2013, 06:39:28 PM
One of those mentioned hasn't been made yet, and the other took 4 years because it was being done on almost no budget, neither of them would be considered a sequel.

Yes, you may get the odd fan-film but, but having done it and literally having the t-shirt, it's an excruiatingly slow process.

And as Joe says, you still have to find people willing to do pre-production, all the production manager side, do post-work for free or find a lot of money to pay them - Cameras are the easy bit.

And before someone mentions crowd-sourcing, there are then complications since it's not your IP, and not something I'd particularly be interested in, I'd rather do something of my own.

It's just straw-clutching.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buttonman on 22 January, 2013, 06:41:55 PM
650,000 sales at £13 each or equivalent would translate to almost £10 million - or a third of the box office gross in a week. Keep this up for a few weeks and we'll be getting gold plated progs and an underware thread with correct spelling!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 22 January, 2013, 06:43:18 PM
Chuck Sixpackman is pleased.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 22 January, 2013, 06:45:24 PM
Wait. Is that DVD and Blu-ray combined?

SANTA MONICA, Calif., Jan. 22, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- The verdict is in and Lionsgate LGF, a leading global entertainment company, announced today that the home entertainment release of DREDD claimed the number one spot on the DVD sell-through and Blu-ray charts with 650,000 units sold, making it the best-selling new release title of the year.  Blu-ray units accounted for nearly 50% of week 1 POS at retail.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 22 January, 2013, 06:47:16 PM
Havent had chance to read any of these posts, but there's gonna be a sequel? Thats brilliant! Can i put it on FB, now its offical?  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 22 January, 2013, 06:54:14 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 22 January, 2013, 06:47:16 PM
Havent had chance to read any of these posts, but there's gonna be a sequel? Thats brilliant! Can i put it on FB, now its offical?  ;)
LOL no. I'm afraid I'm responsible for stirring that pot. It was just joyful optimism on my behalf. Some say folly; others join me in it.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 22 January, 2013, 07:03:35 PM
But still, brilliant news that its selling like hotcakes. We can shout that from the rooftops instead!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 22 January, 2013, 07:20:41 PM
And there is hope of a prequel, via IDW's Year One?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 22 January, 2013, 08:46:56 PM
Quote from: Supermarine Troutfire on 22 January, 2013, 05:45:39 PM
There is no sequel. No sequel will happen. No sequel.

Films are for making money. The Dredd film failed. There will be no sequel because people who invest in films now have proof that such an investment would be foolish.

To put it another way: there will be no sequel.

To sum up: there will be no sequel.

Sorry about that.




There's always that new Robocop movie!   ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 22 January, 2013, 08:52:33 PM
More like Robo Flop!

I hear Arnie's new action movie has done badly in it's opening week.  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 22 January, 2013, 08:57:06 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 22 January, 2013, 08:52:33 PM
More like Robo Flop!

I hear Arnie's new action movie has done badly in it's opening week.  :o
No one wants to see action movies at the flicks by the looks of things. Will probably do well on blue ray.



V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 22 January, 2013, 09:56:27 PM
Can I just ask without being condescendingly talked down to for not EVEN having extensive knowledge of the film industry and its workings - is it impossible that a sequel will happen on the strength of prolonged, strong DVD/Bluray sales?

I only ask because it seems to me that after, not one, but two pretty shit and un-watched Punisher film, a third (also reputedly quite shit and un-watched) film somehow ended up getting made. I realise that the budget for a Dredd film would be bigger, is that what would put the dampers on it?

If someone could calmly and patiently address these questions, posed by a layman, I would appreciate it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 22 January, 2013, 10:19:07 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 22 January, 2013, 09:56:27 PM
Can I just ask without being condescendingly talked down to for not EVEN having extensive knowledge of the film industry and its workings

Others can reply to the rest of your question, but this is somewhat unfair - the only people we've been condescending to are those that, with plenty of straight forward evidence why there won't be a sequel, continue to post exactly the same stuff, over and over again. I have no problem with people asking questions, it's when they don't listen to the answers that bothers me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 22 January, 2013, 10:46:18 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 22 January, 2013, 10:19:07 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 22 January, 2013, 09:56:27 PM
Can I just ask without being condescendingly talked down to for not EVEN having extensive knowledge of the film industry and its workings

Others can reply to the rest of your question, but this is somewhat unfair - the only people we've been condescending to are those that, with plenty of straight forward evidence why there won't be a sequel, continue to post exactly the same stuff, over and over again. I have no problem with people asking questions, it's when they don't listen to the answers that bothers me.

I wasn't particularly accusing anyone of condescending to anyone else, I was just trying to cover myself from being lumped in with others. I haven't seen any of this evidence you mention either, apologies if it's already been covered, I don't get on the forum much these days.

Just pre-emptive defensiveness on my part I suppose.

Anyway, this here evidence for there being no sequel (sob), where might it be?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 January, 2013, 11:02:41 PM
I think the Punisher is an anomaly and an effort for Marvel to have their 'Batman' - there's a rumour of another attempt to reboot him in 2014.

The main reason for no sequel is Alex Garland's $50million at the US Box Office for starters stipulation, and it failed by a wide margin to hit that.

I don't really need to know more than that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 22 January, 2013, 11:59:07 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 22 January, 2013, 05:41:37 PMI don't think Serenity was made with sequels in mind anyway.
Apart from the fact at the time, those involved specifically said they hoped it would be the start of a film series. Had Serenity made $150m at the box office, I'll bet we'd have seen another film long before now.

Quote from: Lee Bates on 22 January, 2013, 09:56:27 PMCan I just ask without being condescendingly talked down to for not EVEN having extensive knowledge of the film industry and its workings - is it impossible that a sequel will happen on the strength of prolonged, strong DVD/Bluray sales?
Is it impossible? No. Is it even remotely likely? No. I suspect Dredd won't have prolonged high sales, for a start. It's already rapidly falling down the US iTunes chart, for one. I suspect it'd done way better than people thought, and clawed back some of the losses, but I'll eat my hat if it's still number-one and selling like hot cakes after a month.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 January, 2013, 12:06:03 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 22 January, 2013, 11:02:41 PM
I think the Punisher is an anomaly and an effort for Marvel to have their 'Batman' - there's a rumour of another attempt to reboot him in 2014.


The 2004 film made 3.5 times its budget through box-office and DVD, that's a nice anomaly, but the idiots forgot to follow it up with a better film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 January, 2013, 12:08:57 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 January, 2013, 12:06:03 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 22 January, 2013, 11:02:41 PM
I think the Punisher is an anomaly and an effort for Marvel to have their 'Batman' - there's a rumour of another attempt to reboot him in 2014.


The 2004 film made 3.5 times its budget through box-office and DVD, that's a nice anomaly, but the idiots forgot to follow it up with a better film.

Even there was unofficial The Punisher: #DIRTYLAUNDRY on YouTube last year, here the link again to refresh your mind...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWpK0wsnitc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWpK0wsnitc)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 January, 2013, 12:09:02 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 22 January, 2013, 11:59:07 PM
but I'll eat my hat if it's still number-one and selling like hot cakes after a month.


In fairness, few films keep the top spot. In the meantime, if they manage to squeeze out a decent steelbook with more 'stuff', it could get back in the top 10.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 January, 2013, 12:45:32 AM
Enough of this sequel bollocks. We all know it'll be a reimagining ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judda fett on 23 January, 2013, 12:55:21 AM
After the Stallone film I was surprised we got Dredd in the end. I wouldnt rule anything out and hope we get a few more fan films out in the meantime. My Minty cherry is just over a month away whoot!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 23 January, 2013, 01:00:34 AM
Minty/Dredd crossover. Where two worlds collide.

Minty, Edmund Dehn, sees a blinding flash over to the East, something has happened to Mega City One. He sets off to find out what. He encounters a small group of survivors, everyone is confused but all agree that Judge Death has destroyed Mega City One.

Reaching where the West wall should be Minty finds rubble, but not too much further ahead he can see the West Wall. He finds an unconscious Cassandra Anderson, Integra Fairbrook.

Inside the City there is devastation, huge, organic looking mega-blocks have erupted throughout the city, flying cars and Jimps with huge shoulder pads. Dredd, Karl Urban, and Anderson, Olivia Thirlby have to contend with a Block War between Gavin Leahy Block and Pete Wells Block, apparently started over 10 Credits and an auction.

No one can confirm sightings of the Dark Judges.

But who, or what, is the mysterious villain behind the collision of these two worlds. And why does he have a big cellar?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 23 January, 2013, 02:46:17 AM
Quote from: Supermarine Troutfire on 22 January, 2013, 06:30:21 PM
Truly astonishing.

I am struggling to reply in a polite way so I will try to keep my mouth shut.

Except: there is no sequel.

Well just by saying that I guess you're implying I am stupid or something, and maybe I am. But all I am arguing is that there is still a chance there could be sequel, as oppose as there definitely won't be. There are reasons why one could happen, as there are reasons why one probably won't happen, but you can't say that one definitely won't happen. No one can predict the future so no one can say for sure, regardless of knowledge of the film industry.

Quote from: Steve Green on 22 January, 2013, 06:39:28 PM
One of those mentioned hasn't been made yet, and the other took 4 years because it was being done on almost no budget, neither of them would be considered a sequel.

Yes, you may get the odd fan-film but, but having done it and literally having the t-shirt, it's an excruiatingly slow process.

And as Joe says, you still have to find people willing to do pre-production, all the production manager side, do post-work for free or find a lot of money to pay them - Cameras are the easy bit.

And before someone mentions crowd-sourcing, there are then complications since it's not your IP, and not something I'd particularly be interested in, I'd rather do something of my own.

It's just straw-clutching.

I wasn't saying there should be a fan sequel per se, but using it as evidence that there are plenty of people who love Dredd, want to see a sequel to Dredd, and have talent. I don't think a movie needs to be as high $35 million to make a decent movie. Yeah Dredd has the disadvantage of being a sci-fi so it would cost more, but like I said in my last post, a movie set in the cursed earth surely can't cost as much to create a future city.

A chase movie across a baron waste land would be ace. Kill a couple of muties here, kill a couple of fleeing perps from the big meg there (the reason for being out there), see a cgi skeleton of Satanus, battle and defeat big bad guy, drag the corpse back to the beg. Mix in Dredd battling the elements and some psychedelia future drum and bass sountrack and hey presto you've got your self a cool film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 23 January, 2013, 07:35:43 AM
FFS, THERE WILL BE NO SEQUEL.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 23 January, 2013, 07:41:40 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 23 January, 2013, 07:35:43 AM
FFS, THERE WILL BE A SEQUEL.
FTFY




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 23 January, 2013, 07:51:04 AM
Quote from: vzzbux on 23 January, 2013, 07:41:40 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 23 January, 2013, 07:35:43 AM
FFS, THERE WILL BE A SEQUEL.
FTFY




V
You're a bad man.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 23 January, 2013, 08:04:32 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 23 January, 2013, 07:51:04 AM
You're a bad man.

The sequel will based on 'Bad Man'? That would be a prequel, surely?

Does that mean we're getting a sequel and a prequel?

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 23 January, 2013, 08:34:06 AM
Where's the tower, where's the gun, where's the tower, where's the gun...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 23 January, 2013, 10:05:07 AM
There'd be a nuclear war and people would still be asking about a sequel, Richmond.

On the upside, sets wouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 23 January, 2013, 10:40:05 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 23 January, 2013, 02:46:17 AMI am arguing is that there is still a chance there could be sequel, as oppose as there definitely won't be.
It's hard to disprove a negative, and never is a long time. But there's a chance of Dredd 2 in the same way there's a chance Reading will win the Premier League this season.

QuoteI don't think a movie needs to be as high $35 million to make a decent movie. Yeah Dredd has the disadvantage of being a sci-fi so it would cost more, but like I said in my last post, a movie set in the cursed earth surely can't cost as much to create a future city.
$35m really isn't much. Bear in mind the existing Dredd movie had, for the vast majority of the film, a very limited set, and location shoots are often hideously expensive. If there was another Dredd and it had to be even cheaper, it would presumably have to either be a dodgy CGI-fest or again be something 'in block' rather than opening out to the city. In other words, it'd probably be a retread, but with a lower budget, and I'm not sure I'd want to see that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 23 January, 2013, 10:52:09 AM
Bear in mind that if a lower-budget sequel got the go ahead (straight to DVD or whatever), it's likely that the key players (on both sides of the camera) behind the first film probably wouldn't even want to return.

In that case, I'd rather have no sequel at all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 23 January, 2013, 11:02:32 AM
Maybe someone should make a sticky thread with a big NO and a comparison of Dredd's box office takings to other films that we can link to whenever someone starts a new thread asking whether there will be a sequel (which is going to happen a lot over the next few years).

Fantasy sequels would make a good topic for an at comp, though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 23 January, 2013, 11:29:19 AM
Quote from: radiator on 23 January, 2013, 10:52:09 AMIn that case, I'd rather have no sequel at all.
Exactly. At the very least, you'd want Urban as Dredd, Garland at the very least having input into the script, and Dod Mantle. I'd also want to see Wagner consulting, and, ideally, Leonard-Morgan in the mix. This film was a risk for most of them, and although it failed commercially, it didn't critically. That's a pretty important factor. However, DNA's now been stung more than once with risky sci-fi (Sunshine also having not don't terribly well in cinemas) and so I just don't see them going for something where the funds don't make sense.

One thing that is positive, though, is Rebellion's role in this. A horrible low-budget 'new' Dredd is only going to happen if the Kingsleys go crazy one day after taking in far too many Jelly Babies and on a whim sell off the Dredd rights to someone who shouldn't be allowed within a mile of them. And given what they've done during the time since they snapped up 2000 AD, I think we can be safe in the knowledge that that is definitely not going to happen. Better no follow-up Dredd than a crap one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 23 January, 2013, 11:31:19 AM
Quote from: radiator on 23 January, 2013, 11:02:32 AM
Maybe someone should make a sticky thread with a big NO and a comparison of Dredd's box office takings to other films that we can link to whenever someone starts a new thread asking whether there will be a sequel (which is going to happen a lot over the next few years).

QUOTED FOR TRUTH
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 23 January, 2013, 11:33:10 AM
Agreed.  We have been spoilt with a fantastic movie and for it to follow up with a crass low budget Straight to DVD without the same cast and crew would be disasterous.





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Trout on 23 January, 2013, 11:39:47 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 23 January, 2013, 02:46:17 AM
Quote from: Supermarine Troutfire on 22 January, 2013, 06:30:21 PM
Truly astonishing.

I am struggling to reply in a polite way so I will try to keep my mouth shut.

Except: there is no sequel.

Well just by saying that I guess you're implying I am stupid or something, and maybe I am.

I am implying that you are not listening, and wilfully refusing to listen because you don't want to hear the truth. I am saying that I am trying not to be rude to you. I am increasingly tempted to be rude.

I accept that it is possible for a rich person to spend a squillion dollars on a fanwanky Dredd sequel, but it is also possible that Kylie Minogue will take experimental hormone treatment that leaves her in a state of uncontrollable sexual need, then become lost in rural Scotland and knock on my door looking for directions to an obscure Australian town that happens to be called Very Loud Orgasm. Sadly, it is not going to happen.

Let's do this again, and this time I'd like you all to image the refrain of the Sex Pistols' God Save the Queen, with the word "future" replaced by the word "sequel".

NOOOOOO SEQUEL.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SEQUEL.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SEQUEL FOR YOOOOUUUUU.

Best wishes

- Trout
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 23 January, 2013, 11:44:41 AM
Love it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 23 January, 2013, 11:48:37 AM
Quote from: radiator on 23 January, 2013, 11:02:32 AM
Fantasy sequels would make a good topic for an at comp, though.

We've already had one that was "expand the Dredd movie verse" recently - which is sort of the same thing. But it WOULD be a nice thing to come back to in a few years I reckon. Y'know - after the fuss has died down about the direct-to-DVD sequel with Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson as Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 23 January, 2013, 11:50:34 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 23 January, 2013, 11:29:19 AM
Quote from: radiator on 23 January, 2013, 10:52:09 AMIn that case, I'd rather have no sequel at all.
Exactly. At the very least, you'd want Urban as Dredd, Garland at the very least having input into the script, and Dod Mantle. I'd also want to see Wagner consulting, and, ideally, Leonard-Morgan in the mix. This film was a risk for most of them, and although it failed commercially, it didn't critically. That's a pretty important factor. However, DNA's now been stung more than once with risky sci-fi (Sunshine also having not don't terribly well in cinemas) and so I just don't see them going for something where the funds don't make sense.

One thing that is positive, though, is Rebellion's role in this. A horrible low-budget 'new' Dredd is only going to happen if the Kingsleys go crazy one day after taking in far too many Jelly Babies and on a whim sell off the Dredd rights to someone who shouldn't be allowed within a mile of them. And given what they've done during the time since they snapped up 2000 AD, I think we can be safe in the knowledge that that is definitely not going to happen. Better no follow-up Dredd than a crap one.

Had Rebellion taken over when those Shoreline Dredds were talked about?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 January, 2013, 11:53:32 AM
But we get a brilliant Dredd film that buried any links to that awful Stallone film!


THANK YOU TO DREDD TEAM FOR QUALITY FILM!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 23 January, 2013, 11:54:07 AM
Did Dredd get a B-movie clone that normally gets shown on the horror channel or Scy-Fy?





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 23 January, 2013, 12:36:59 PM
Dredd's still to be released in Japan too, 16th Feb its listed at.

http://www.judge-dredd.jp/

Will be interesting to see how it does, esp in the wake of the various internet reviews and traffic - an idea of the number of screens its currently booked on will be a good indication, if such info is out there.
(95's Dredd did better Internationally, taking twice what it did in the US).
Its a shame the US box office will be the only thing that seems to have mattered.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 23 January, 2013, 12:46:07 PM
To be fair, the news of Dredd selling so well on Blu Ray has been reported by quite a lot of news sites (and I don't recall home video sales figures ever being reported outside of niche websites), so there are many outside of this forum clamouring for a sequel too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 23 January, 2013, 01:18:18 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 23 January, 2013, 12:36:59 PM
Dredd's still to be released in Japan too, 16th Feb its listed at. Will be interesting to see how it does, esp in the wake of the various internet reviews and traffic
How does Japan usually respond to niche foreign fare? My guess: it'll fling a few million more into the bucket, in the same way the release did in a few other big countries (and on that note: yay Russia!), but I very much doubt it'll propel the film to the lofty heights of cinema-based profit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 23 January, 2013, 01:26:26 PM
650,000 dvd/blurays sold in 2 weeks half of those sold are blurays and that isnt counting
the downloads looks like dredds doin ok
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 January, 2013, 02:16:30 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 23 January, 2013, 12:36:59 PM
Its a shame the US box office will be the only thing that seems to have mattered.

It's not, the international box-office was equally bad.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 January, 2013, 02:30:15 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 23 January, 2013, 11:50:34 AM
Had Rebellion taken over when those Shoreline Dredds were talked about?



Yes, Rebellion were in on the 2 film Shoreline deal, before that there was 2000AD Films PLC in 2002 which was set-up so we could all buy shares and raise money for films; that ended due to legal complications, I believe.
 
The 2003 Shoreline deal lasted a year, fell apart, and in 2004 the option passed to Silvio Astarita who set up a production company called I AM THE LAW and hired a new writer. The Shoreline scripts were binned and the intention was to make one film instead of two.

The next interested party was DNA, as far as I know.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 23 January, 2013, 02:37:27 PM
*IMDB's Silvio Astarita*

QuoteRave Macbeth (2001, Producer)

This movie is a loose adaptation of the Shakespeare play "MacBeth", except it's set in the world of the dance rave culture.

Good God.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 23 January, 2013, 05:09:43 PM
QuoteRave Macbeth (2001, Producer)
This movie is a loose adaptation of the Shakespeare play "MacBeth", except it's set in the world of the dance rave culture.

Possibly mixing in a bit of Richard III: "Now is the winter of our discotheque." *


* (TM & (c) Russ Abbott, 1988)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 23 January, 2013, 05:17:32 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 January, 2013, 02:30:15 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 23 January, 2013, 11:50:34 AM
Had Rebellion taken over when those Shoreline Dredds were talked about?



Yes, Rebellion were in on the 2 film Shoreline deal, before that there was 2000AD Films PLC in 2002 which was set-up so we could all buy shares and raise money for films; that ended due to legal complications, I believe.
 
The 2003 Shoreline deal lasted a year, fell apart, and in 2004 the option passed to Silvio Astarita who set up a production company called I AM THE LAW and hired a new writer. The Shoreline scripts were binned and the intention was to make one film instead of two.

The next interested party was DNA, as far as I know.

Cheers Joe.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 23 January, 2013, 07:19:28 PM
So many multiple naysayers. I have a hat for each of you to eat. Post-dated 2015 1/2.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 January, 2013, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: Stan on 23 January, 2013, 07:19:28 PM
So many multiple naysayers. I have a hat for each of you to eat. Post-dated 2015 1/2.

I will help you cooking it :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 23 January, 2013, 10:16:33 PM
This thread is full of great stuff I never knew.

There will be a rerelease of Dredd in a toned down family friendly certificate, this will earn enough money (despite only being three minutes long) to fund a sequel.

And Trout fucked Kylie.

Brilliant!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dog Deever on 23 January, 2013, 10:23:54 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 January, 2013, 06:53:47 AM
In those few months between the theatrical release and the home cinema release the Dark Judges had been to town ;)

Great. Good luck to 'em.
Sort of...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 24 January, 2013, 01:24:18 AM
(//)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 24 January, 2013, 01:26:01 AM
Map shot in the background
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 24 January, 2013, 04:03:50 AM
Quote from: radiator on 23 January, 2013, 02:37:27 PM
*IMDB's Silvio Astarita*

QuoteRave Macbeth (2001, Producer)

This movie is a loose adaptation of the Shakespeare play "MacBeth", except it's set in the world of the dance rave culture.

Good God.

:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 24 January, 2013, 04:24:41 AM
http://vimeo.com/28782001
Dredd On Set video by Jasyn Howes
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 24 January, 2013, 07:27:09 AM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 24 January, 2013, 04:24:41 AM
http://vimeo.com/28782001
Dredd On Set video by Jasyn Howes

nice to see this fresh video of showreel for DREDD .  still hope there's much more to come
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 24 January, 2013, 08:09:05 AM
With dredd doing well on bluray/dvd dont worry i aint going to bore y`all with the sequel thing
but i was thinking that surely a special editon of the move will be put out. I would like to see
extended interviews with the cast and crew maybe even some commentary from carl and alex
and how about deleted scenes. And then box that baby up in a limited edition steelbook  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 January, 2013, 08:32:55 AM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 24 January, 2013, 04:24:41 AM
http://vimeo.com/28782001
Dredd On Set video by Jasyn Howes

Thanks!

Lawsmaster still looking great in action!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 24 January, 2013, 08:48:43 AM
I see ALEX GARLAND is classed as PERP 476218   - (Pardoned)    ..........Should be Honored    Grand Hall of Fame
------------------------
look's like all these clips are hopefully part of  a whole video about DREDD the making of
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 24 January, 2013, 09:00:39 AM
Excellent video, at 2:22 you see Anderson firing off to her right hand side during the room entry, but in 10 viewings of the film in total I never noticed that!
Title: Re: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 24 January, 2013, 09:01:00 AM
Quote from: hazy efc on 24 January, 2013, 08:09:05 AM
With dredd doing well on bluray/dvd dont worry i aint going to bore y`all with the sequel thing
but i was thinking that surely a special editon of the move will be put out. I would like to see
extended interviews with the cast and crew maybe even some commentary from carl and alex
and how about deleted scenes. And then box that baby up in a limited edition steelbook  :thumbsup:

There were no deleted scenes. The film was shot very economically and AFAIK they only shot what they were going to use.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 24 January, 2013, 09:21:06 AM
What's with the silver ball at the end?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 24 January, 2013, 09:39:54 AM
well its a showreel!  Thats the guy that made ite in the reflection....  maybe  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 24 January, 2013, 10:29:47 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 24 January, 2013, 09:21:06 AM
What's with the silver ball at the end?
If you see grey ones, they are used to use for scene lighting/ shading matches in CG scenes, chrome ones can be used to pull almost a complete reflection 'map' which also is used for lighting, the image in the ball is mapped back into a scene so some light reflections match in colour and hue as well - ie if you have a green wall that green can bounce back onto skin, shiny objects etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 24 January, 2013, 11:56:01 AM
really enjoyed that Showreel  some quality shots ... just's makes you hungry for more
(http://imageshack.us/a/img600/1408/dreddbike.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/dreddbike.jpg/)
sorry about quality just lifted them off the video
(http://imageshack.us/a/img217/889/dreddnohelmet.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/217/dreddnohelmet.jpg/)
anyways 
Title: Re: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 24 January, 2013, 12:08:47 PM
Quote from: Noisybast on 24 January, 2013, 09:01:00 AM
Quote from: hazy efc on 24 January, 2013, 08:09:05 AM
With dredd doing well on bluray/dvd dont worry i aint going to bore y`all with the sequel thing
but i was thinking that surely a special editon of the move will be put out. I would like to see
extended interviews with the cast and crew maybe even some commentary from carl and alex
and how about deleted scenes. And then box that baby up in a limited edition steelbook  :thumbsup:

There were no deleted scenes. The film was shot very economically and AFAIK they only shot what they were going to use.

I think that is the case, there may be bloopers, but no deleted scenes from what I understand. Indeed there is reused footage in part of the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 24 January, 2013, 12:20:22 PM
It was really interesting hearing Alex discuss how they had to get creative and re-use the same take but from different camera angles to extend the length if a set piece. The gas/stairs scene was a great example.  Apparently they only walked up one flight, but shot it from as many angles as possible, then edited it to make it look like it was two flights! Amazing!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 24 January, 2013, 12:34:25 PM
Yup. My fiends dad still ses I shoulda took splosivs or summat with me cos like Judge Pal was there, an Dredd an Judge Birdses. An lots of narks an such.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 24 January, 2013, 12:35:43 PM
The older I get, the more I really appreciate economy and deftness in film making. With a handful of exceptions, I'd much, much rather watch a tight 90-odd minutes than some overblown two hour plus epic. I don't understand the mentality of those who queue up to see Transformers and Pirates of the Caribbean etc etc when they are so clearly little more than expensive fx reels with no satisfying connective tissue.

Sooner or later, people will realise that the reason we still love The Terminator, Die Hard and Robocop isn't just because of the sci-fi trappings, the gore, the stars, the catchphrases - it's because those films are beautifully constructed. Every scene pushes the plot forward, everything has a setup and a pay-off. There's no fat on them, and they never get boring, even in their quieter moments.

And we can add Dredd to that list of great, self-contained, endlessly rewatchable genre pieces. That's the highest compliment I can give a film, really.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 24 January, 2013, 12:38:17 PM
Nicely put.

It'll be ratcheted in my house regularly for exactly that. It is a well crafted movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 24 January, 2013, 12:41:47 PM
I think you hit the nail on the head there radiator. I haven't seen Django yet thanks to its runtime, just can't be arsed to waste (when you include trailers) 3 hours of my life on QT's smugness. Twice now I've put Dredd on just to watch the Lawmaster at the beginning and I've just sat there and watched the rest of the film, it just flies past, but in a good way. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 24 January, 2013, 12:55:13 PM
Spot on Radiator. I don't mind long films if it's warranted, but they are by their very nature less rewatchable. The discipline and craft that went into the films of my childhood (3 of which you've mentioned there) are one of the reasons I can still watch them now and never get bored.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 24 January, 2013, 01:44:33 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 24 January, 2013, 12:41:47 PM
just to watch the Lawmaster at the beginning...

Strange isn't it? All that hoo-haa at the first site of Judge Porky on that photo , and here is one of my bestist parts of the film as well! Love that Lawmaster  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 24 January, 2013, 01:45:37 PM
*sight , obv  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 24 January, 2013, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 24 January, 2013, 01:44:33 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 24 January, 2013, 12:41:47 PM
just to watch the Lawmaster at the beginning...

Strange isn't it? All that hoo-haa at the first site of Judge Porky on that photo , and here is one of my bestist parts of the film as well! Love that Lawmaster  :)

Same here!! Dredd blasting between lanes, sirens screaming, particularly that scene where it's a full frontal between two cars, rushing towards the screen at you - it's just pure Dredd porn!!!


Radiator - couldn't agree with you more re your comparison to the original Terminator, Robocop etc.  I'd also add The Thing and Escape from New York to that list.  Tight, engrossing, hugely rewatchable, just like Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 24 January, 2013, 06:02:05 PM
^This and ^^^that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 24 January, 2013, 06:34:13 PM
Plus I got to watch it with John Wagner & Carlos Ezquerra. Got to chat with Alex Garland. & ate pizza with fellow boarders!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 January, 2013, 07:16:01 PM
Talk a little about deleted scenes and stuff like that.

GARLAND: No deleted scenes.

I was going to ask you, with being an indie, you know-

GARLAND: Yeah, no deleted scenes. I mean- Sorry I should let you finish that question.

Oh no, no. By all means.

GARLAND: We had a ninety-seven minute assembly cut, all right? We could not delete any scenes. One of the real challenges in the edit was how to do a proper job editing the movie, whilst not really letting anything hit the cutting room floor. So that's why scenes were repurposed, and shots were repurposed, and sometimes flopped and flipped, and played backwards or re-sped and put in different places. So, I don't think there will be another cut of the movie. This is it. In fact, in the end we did re-shoots because we needed, we kind of needed some more material, so we did some re-shoots like a year later. And that helped us turn a corner in the edit, I think.



http://collider.com/alex-garland-dredd-3d-interview/197656/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 24 January, 2013, 07:31:18 PM
Quote from: junox on 24 January, 2013, 11:56:01 AMsorry about quality just lifted them off the video
(http://imageshack.us/a/img217/889/dreddnohelmet.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/217/dreddnohelmet.jpg/)
anyways

Thanks. That's completely raped my childhood and ruined the film for me now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 24 January, 2013, 10:00:01 PM
Yup. I didn't know a source I could put up - but it is something he said at The Ship, hence my bland response.

Cheers Joe.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 24 January, 2013, 10:10:11 PM
Would just like to point out, much to my amusement, that while Lex and co are talking to the medic about what's going on in the block there's a German shepherd eating the bodies of the Slo-Mo victims in the background. Every time I watch the movie, it gets more and more fucked up. Haha!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 24 January, 2013, 10:12:10 PM
Apologies if that's a boring post. I just love (and appreciate) the attention to the details at every opportunity.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 24 January, 2013, 10:12:36 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 24 January, 2013, 10:10:11 PM
Would just like to point out, much to my amusement, that while Lex and co are talking to the medic about what's going on in the block there's a German shepherd eating the bodies of the Slo-Mo victims in the background. Every time I watch the movie, it gets more and more fucked up. Haha!

Ooh! Missed that! Anyone fancy putting up a screen grab?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 24 January, 2013, 10:35:43 PM
To the left of the images. Haha!

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/Screenshot2013-01-24at23115PM_zps2ec27eb1.png)

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/Screenshot2013-01-24at22959PM_zps32b4d189.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 24 January, 2013, 10:42:06 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 24 January, 2013, 04:24:41 AM
http://vimeo.com/28782001
Dredd On Set video by Jasyn Howes

No way!! The person walking towards the camera at 00:38 is me!! You can see my DDPM pants in the monitor of the camera as I cross the lens.. That was the day they let me go on set to operate the silencer on Olivia's Lawgiver!!! To quote Sulley: I'm on TV!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 24 January, 2013, 10:49:26 PM
Quote from: Stan on 24 January, 2013, 07:31:18 PM
Quote from: junox on 24 January, 2013, 11:56:01 AMsorry about quality just lifted them off the video
(http://imageshack.us/a/img217/889/dreddnohelmet.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/217/dreddnohelmet.jpg/)
anyways

Thanks. That's completely raped my childhood and ruined the film for me now.

Shot I'm talking about.. That arm left of frame? Mine.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 24 January, 2013, 11:43:15 PM
Wow, I've seen that arm!!! You had it with you when I met you at the The Ship. I saw that arm!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 24 January, 2013, 11:55:37 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 24 January, 2013, 10:35:43 PM
To the left of the images. Haha!

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/Screenshot2013-01-24at23115PM_zps2ec27eb1.png)

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/Screenshot2013-01-24at22959PM_zps32b4d189.png)



:lol:
Cheers Blackmocco!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 25 January, 2013, 12:38:28 AM
Haha, never noticed the dog before. That is really cool!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 January, 2013, 12:45:22 AM
Ooh how awesome is this single image...

(http://i.imgur.com/pL6vP5b.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 25 January, 2013, 01:47:06 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 24 January, 2013, 10:49:26 PM
Quote from: Stan on 24 January, 2013, 07:31:18 PM
Quote from: junox on 24 January, 2013, 11:56:01 AMsorry about quality just lifted them off the video
(http://imageshack.us/a/img217/889/dreddnohelmet.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/217/dreddnohelmet.jpg/)
anyways

Thanks. That's completely raped my childhood and ruined the film for me now.

Shot I'm talking about.. That arm left of frame? Mine.

Weird. I just posted this on Facebook and suggested people cover their eyes at exactly 00:38. I may have inadvertently stunted your potential for fame and fortune. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 25 January, 2013, 07:02:55 AM
Never noticed the German Shepherd. Ah well, another reason to watch it again tonight. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 25 January, 2013, 09:34:09 AM
My god, this is beyond addiction! I cannae' fight it cap'n! :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 25 January, 2013, 10:38:42 AM
My god - dog eating bodies!!  That's nuts!  What an amazing gruesomely dark funny bit I did not notice!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 25 January, 2013, 10:43:03 AM
In that Garland interview, when asked about reshoots he says this...

"One was the introduction to Dredd, really, where he corners a guy in a shopping mall and uses a kind of incendiary bullet to take him down. That was a completely different new scene that didn't exist before. "

Anyone know what the scene was intended to be before the reshoot? Was there a different resolution or was the scene originally scripted to end with the car chase maybe?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 25 January, 2013, 10:44:49 AM
Just found this on Bloodydisgusting..

(http://cdn.bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Dredd_GatlinV5.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 25 January, 2013, 10:47:43 AM
I believe that originally he shot through the hostage to kill the hostage taker, inflicting a non-fatal wound, Robocop style. I think that this was deemed to similiar to Robocop and hence removed?

I remember seeing a photo from what I assume was the original take of the face off with Mama. Mama was pictured with a rifle in her hands, looking like she was turning towards Dredd. This was obviously changed in favour of the ending we got to see, don't know what specifically was originally meant to happen though, was it in the leaked script?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 25 January, 2013, 10:52:34 AM
The scene as originally written was that Zwirner would flee the scene of the crash and disappear into a crowd of bystanders. Unable to get a clear shot, Dredd selects 'armour piercing' and shoots through a civilian to peg Zwirner with a fatal shot. Dredd calmly informs the wounded civilian that he placed the shot so as to miss any vital organs, and that paramedics would be with them shortly. Control would ask Dredd "Is your pursuit resolved?", then there is a pause where the camera pans round at the scene of utter carnage - the burning wreck, bodies everywhere, then Dredd would reply - completely deadpan - "Yes".

Would have been brilliant, if a little too overtly Verhoevenesque. I believe it was changed to help make Dredd a little more likable - they wanted to have a scene where we see Dredd as the hero - and hence we get the shopgirl saying "Thank you, judge".

Btw, did anyone else recognise Zwirner from District 9 - he played one of the talking heads at the beginning and the end of the film.

(http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2009_District_9/009DT9_Jason_Cope_001.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 25 January, 2013, 10:54:00 AM
QuoteThis was obviously changed in favour of the ending we got to see, don't know what specifically was originally meant to happen though, was it in the leaked script?

I believe Ma Ma's bomb was added in reshoots - presumably to up the stakes and give a more tense ending.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 25 January, 2013, 10:58:13 AM
Ah I see, makes sense.

I didn't recognise him from District 9, and I love that film too. Shows how much a haircut and a totally different character can make somebody so unrecognisable! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 January, 2013, 11:01:22 AM
Quote from: radiator on 25 January, 2013, 10:52:34 AM
I believe it was changed to help make Dredd a little more likable - they wanted to have a scene where we see Dredd as the hero - and hence we get the shopgirl saying "Thank you, judge".


I suspect the scene was intended to show to the audience what function a Judge actually performs, hence the deliberate declaration of sentencing: life without parole, death etc. none of which existed in the original scene, instead, he just shot Zwirner with no sentencing.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 January, 2013, 11:07:26 AM
Quote from: radiator on 25 January, 2013, 10:54:00 AM
QuoteThis was obviously changed in favour of the ending we got to see, don't know what specifically was originally meant to happen though, was it in the leaked script?

I believe Ma Ma's bomb was added in reshoots - presumably to up the stakes and give a more tense ending.


There's no bomb plot in the original leaked script and the reshoots of December 11th were located in Ma Ma's apartment and involved several pages of script icluding shots of the device on Ma Ma's arm. Plus Dredd's affirming 'Yeah' shot was one of the new shots at the reshoot.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 January, 2013, 11:12:41 AM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 25 January, 2013, 10:47:43 AM
I remember seeing a photo from what I assume was the original take of the face off with Mama. Mama was pictured with a rifle in her hands, looking like she was turning towards Dredd. This was obviously changed in favour of the ending we got to see, don't know what specifically was originally meant to happen though, was it in the leaked script?

It was originally just a shoot-out, then Dredd throws Ma Ma through the window.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 25 January, 2013, 11:20:44 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 January, 2013, 11:07:26 AM
Quote from: radiator on 25 January, 2013, 10:54:00 AM
QuoteThis was obviously changed in favour of the ending we got to see, don't know what specifically was originally meant to happen though, was it in the leaked script?

I believe Ma Ma's bomb was added in reshoots - presumably to up the stakes and give a more tense ending.


There's no bomb plot in the original leaked script and the reshoots of December 11th were located in Ma Ma's apartment and involved several pages of script icluding shots of the device on Ma Ma's arm. Plus Dredd's affirming 'Yeah' shot was one of the new shots at the reshoot.

The 'Yeah' line is one of my favourite moments in the movie, really glad they shot it in that case.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordyM on 25 January, 2013, 11:52:41 AM
Every time I re-watch this it's strangely enough Lena Heady's performance that I appreciate more and more (though Urban and Thrilby are fantastic, of course). It's the sense of sadness that infuses her performance that makes her all the more menancing and makes Mama stand out from the usual 'Ice Bitch' female villains we see in films.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 25 January, 2013, 01:47:54 PM
Quote from: GordyM on 25 January, 2013, 11:52:41 AM

...Thrilby...


What an awesomely appropriate spelling mistake..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 January, 2013, 03:31:17 PM
Nice to see "Minty Is The Law"

(http://i.imgur.com/IsDequc.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 January, 2013, 03:43:31 PM
I can't help myself but that bright (not subdued or dim) tracer fire seems to be coming from two angles. I can only hope that a few of them are ricochets :-X
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 January, 2013, 05:14:24 PM
 Maybe you'll get a consultant role on the inevitable SEQUEL.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 25 January, 2013, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 January, 2013, 05:14:24 PM
Maybe you'll get a consultant role on the inevitable SEQUEL.

Quoted for Superherohype.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 25 January, 2013, 05:44:29 PM
I'm sure it would have come up before in the many hundreds of posts on this topic, but Ma-Ma's bomb was the only thing it he film that didn't make much logistic sense to me personally - surely simply stunning, or giving her a non-fatal shot, then carrying her out is a no-brainer? Or even just accompanying her out of the building by force? The only thing it could prevent is immediate execution. No judge would simply walk away, though she didn't seem to have another exit plan. Also, taking the device out of range sounds like it would have the same effect as the heartbeat stopping, ie no heartbeat signal, so that's a risky business.

I felt like it should have had a far better twist considering Dredd just did to her what we've already seen done in the film. Maybe if we hasn't seen slo-mo already used that way the first time...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 January, 2013, 05:48:04 PM


The sentence was death.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 25 January, 2013, 06:51:23 PM
Yeah, the heartbeat sensor mcguffin was a bit rubbish. But hey, if that's all I can find wrong with the film I ain't complainin'. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 25 January, 2013, 07:06:41 PM
 I'm not sure if this has been reported already but Dredd is on Sky Box Office/FilmFlex from Monday. In the RadioTimes 'Films worth paying for... section, the review reads  This gritty and very violent reboot of the 2000 AD comic-strip written by long-time fan Alex Garland thrillingly embraces the dark heart of the source material... ...This is brisk and brutal film-making. Four stars. The write-up is accompanied by a little picture of Dredd.

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 26 January, 2013, 02:00:17 AM
The heartbeat sensor makes sense if you think about it this way: it sends the signal to the bomb for the bomb to blow only once the heartbeat has stopped. If the sensor is out of range, the signal to trigger the bomb can't notify it's receiver. You clearly see that at the end when the light stops flashing and turns red. It's trying to transmit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 26 January, 2013, 08:28:02 AM
Quote from: Rusty on 26 January, 2013, 02:00:17 AM
The heartbeat sensor makes sense if you think about it this way: it sends the signal to the bomb for the bomb to blow only once the heartbeat has stopped. If the sensor is out of range, the signal to trigger the bomb can't notify it's receiver. You clearly see that at the end when the light stops flashing and turns red. It's trying to transmit.
Spot on. If the trigger isn't sent it wont go off.



V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 26 January, 2013, 09:47:17 AM
Dredd is not getting a sequel and they are selling everything off,and it cost 50 mill blah blah blah...

http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=27306

Now if you will excuse me I'm going to pour boiling hot coffee directly into my eyes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 26 January, 2013, 10:18:25 AM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 26 January, 2013, 09:47:17 AM
Dredd is not getting a sequel and they are selling everything off,and it cost 50 mill blah blah blah...

http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=27306

Now if you will excuse me I'm going to pour boiling hot coffee directly into my eyes.

For gods sake, watch Dredd one more time before you do, or you'll regret it for the rest of your life.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 26 January, 2013, 10:59:11 AM
You just pulled me back form the brink,that story and the fact Jar Jar Abrams  is directing the new Star Wars was just too much to take first thing.....I'm better now(ish)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 January, 2013, 12:58:31 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 26 January, 2013, 09:47:17 AM
Dredd is not getting a sequel and they are selling everything off,and it cost 50 mill blah blah blah...

http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=27306

Now if you will excuse me I'm going to pour boiling hot coffee directly into my eyes.



While the probabilities of a sequel are minute, that is not an official statement, that's a presumption by a journalist about an auction we've known about since last year:


QuoteThe film obviously won't be getting a sequel, which is why the studio is now auctioning off all the props from the movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 26 January, 2013, 01:02:32 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP link=topic=34200.msg740089#msg740089 date=135920511

While the probabilities of a sequel are minute...

/quote]

YAY! Sequel possibility!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 26 January, 2013, 01:03:18 PM
Oooh. Buggered that quoting up... :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 26 January, 2013, 01:12:04 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 January, 2013, 12:58:31 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 26 January, 2013, 09:47:17 AM
Dredd is not getting a sequel and they are selling everything off,and it cost 50 mill blah blah blah...

http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=27306

Now if you will excuse me I'm going to pour boiling hot coffee directly into my eyes.

Yeah I know,it's just these idiots over at WP writing it off without doing any research,wound me up.

While the probabilities of a sequel are minute, that is not an official statement, that's a presumption by a journalist about an auction we've known about since last year:


QuoteThe film obviously won't be getting a sequel, which is why the studio is now auctioning off all the props from the movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 26 January, 2013, 01:24:46 PM
Talked about this last night.
Its probably cheaper to remake the costumes than store them all......

The costumes were used in a massive heatwave in SA, I doubt they survived very well ( stinky)

leather ,as above, doesnt store well anyway.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 January, 2013, 01:55:23 PM


Or just a good way to make some money back.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 26 January, 2013, 02:00:04 PM
QuoteTalked about this last night.
Its probably cheaper to remake the costumes than store them all......

I was wondering if this was the case.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judda fett on 26 January, 2013, 07:46:12 PM
Just saw a trailer for Wreck It Ralph. A line used in the trailer is "Ready rookie?" It seemed a bit Dredd. I have no idea what the film is about or if indeed it was a nod to Dredd but surely this tenuous link if indeed it is a link is proof positive that a sequel has been greenlit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 26 January, 2013, 08:03:00 PM
Quote from: judda fett on 26 January, 2013, 07:46:12 PM
Just saw a trailer for Wreck It Ralph. A line used in the trailer is "Ready rookie?" It seemed a bit Dredd. I have no idea what the film is about or if indeed it was a nod to Dredd but surely this tenuous link if indeed it is a link is proof positive that a sequel has been greenlit.

Ralph makes clear his loyalty to Ma-Ma (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87E6N7ToCxs) too. They must have copied this from The Raid.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 26 January, 2013, 09:55:54 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 26 January, 2013, 02:00:04 PM
QuoteTalked about this last night.
Its probably cheaper to remake the costumes than store them all......

I was wondering if this was the case.

Yeah.. Considering the time between movies the originals may not be in the best of condition.. We had some Starship trooper helmets when we did ST3 (yes.. I know.. They can't all be gems..) and they were looking rather dismal from storage. Besides, if they do another, they'll take the opportunity to improve upon the previous design. Make sure it's more user friendly and less prone to breaking.. Personally I'd put a different holster on (one that has retention, as opposed to the NO! We'll use this one! that ultimately ended up on the costume...), but that's just me..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 27 January, 2013, 10:26:00 AM
Finally saw it Friday. On the whole, a brilliant thing. Incredibly generous to fans. The key scenes for me were Anderson reading 'Avon Barksdale's' mind in the elevator and elsewhere, some superb stuff there. The Judges gone bad were awesome. Dredd was played perfectly and was surprisingly identical to early progs. My only downer was the death penalty, that was a big fail for me. Dredd is often described as a 'Judge, Jury and Executioner' in the press...though he seems to have that power, it is almost never handed out as a judgement. The same ends could have been met by the perp making a move. Bullying Anderson into shooting a prisoner...that's not the Dredd I read.

As a fan I'd give it a pass...but if I were a judge, this Dredd would be doing 20 on Titan.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 27 January, 2013, 12:43:24 PM
It's a film, it doesn't have the time or scope to cover all the nuances of the Dredd character in the comic. The film needs to show him dispensing instant justice and it worked fine in the film (summing up Dredds loyality to the Law to the letter).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 27 January, 2013, 01:54:16 PM
And there certainly jabbed been death penalties handed out by Dredd over the years. Minor foul, play on.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: thelawgiver on 27 January, 2013, 02:36:46 PM
Logically without reading too much on here or on t'internet I would have assumed that they were selling alot of props and such from the film in order to compensate for lower takings in sales of tickets and DVDs. Therefore adding to the pot for a potential sequel.
I'm more likely to believe the above than the theory that they are selling everything off because the film was a 'failure'.

I believe Dredd has perfectly set the tone for a sequel to be made. It had potential for a better film, you wanted to learn more about the expanded universe, the designs for the judges outfits weapons and mega city FX were spot on.

I'd say the closest comparison I would make if I was in charge of selling a sequel would be with the mad Max franchise - a massively popular cult franchise with a sequel in the can - the first film made on a shoe string budget and the sequels not direct sequels - with aspects reimagined - but sequels none the less. I'd say a sequel to Dredd would be a reimagining in a way in the fact it would hopefully have a bigger budget. Aspects of the cityscape would be further explored in CGI and we could be shown an expanded Law centre of Mega City 1 and Hall of Justice. The lawmaster would be reimagined to fit the comics more - this would perfectly fit The Cursed Earth arc as they were given new bikes that the judge department had just made fresh off of the production line so they could be more successful in their mercy mission across the Cursed Earth. Some have said the Judge outfits were too bulky - I have to say I thought for a filmic treatment they were perfect - I would make the eagle more pronounced though, maybe more gold.

Basically - there may not be a sequel. But there should be! If I win the lottery I'm investing a million or so haha 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 27 January, 2013, 02:49:53 PM
The comic version of the Lawmaster would  be better suited to the Cursed Earth than street patrol.

If I had my way comic style uniform would be ceremonial uniform in a sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 27 January, 2013, 09:59:37 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 27 January, 2013, 02:49:53 PM


If I had my way comic style uniform would be ceremonial uniform in a sequel.
Exactly what I was thinking. Maybe even just the head judges. Would be a nice little nod to the comic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 27 January, 2013, 10:32:51 PM
Quote from: thelawgiver on 27 January, 2013, 02:36:46 PM
I'd say the closest comparison I would make if I was in charge of selling a sequel would be with the mad Max franchise - a massively popular cult franchise with a sequel in the can - the first film made on a shoe string budget and the sequels not direct sequels - with aspects reimagined - but sequels none the less.

Yeah but the first Mad Max made money. It was a box office success, relative to its budget.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 28 January, 2013, 02:36:45 AM
Following some of the odd things I have read about Slo-mo - really, it would make you a better driver???

http://judgetutorsemple.wordpress.com/2013/01/27/what-is-slo-mo-light-dredd-spoilers/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 28 January, 2013, 07:14:59 AM
Slo-mo wouldn't slow time literally, it'd speed up your brain functions so that you percieved time as slower. There must be some inhibiting part of it's concoction that screws with your brain at the same time as it speeds it up, as otherwise Slo-mo would be an incredible thing, allowing super-fast thinking compared to those around you. Far from being a hindrance, a Slo-mo user would actually have an advantage in a firefight.

Lucky Ma-ma didn't manage to refine the mix I guess, otherwise the Justice Department would be proper screwed. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 January, 2013, 08:45:19 AM
Considering how zoned out some of its users look I'd guess it actually puts them at a disadvantage. Though van guy seemed to snap out his haze pretty quick so they must be able to shake off the worst effects under the right circumstances (you'd think falling from a 200 storey building would be one of those).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 28 January, 2013, 11:57:43 AM
I was approaching the film with the idea that reflexes of slo-mo users would be vastly quickened. This would have certainly tested Mega-city one's toughest lawman.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 28 January, 2013, 12:52:59 PM
Quote from: Stan on 28 January, 2013, 08:45:19 AM
Considering how zoned out some of its users look I'd guess it actually puts them at a disadvantage. Though van guy seemed to snap out his haze pretty quick so they must be able to shake off the worst effects under the right circumstances (you'd think falling from a 200 storey building would be one of those).
I think it's more to do with dosage. The guy in the van and the kids in the apartment took less than Mama took, so they snapped out of it sooner (though still not soon enough in the kids case).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 28 January, 2013, 12:56:47 PM
Yeah I expect Mama would have hit those guys with a massive dose to prolong their agony.

Something that stuck with me from the leaked script was the notion of those poor buggers being skinned alive while on Slo Mo, which so absolutely horrific as to be unimaginable. In the film it seemed to be only before they were tossed over the side, which is a lot less harsh.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 January, 2013, 04:30:40 PM
Eh???

http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_519_30-mind-blowing-true-facts-about-famous-movie-scenes_p30/#17 (http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_519_30-mind-blowing-true-facts-about-famous-movie-scenes_p30/#17)

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/8/9/8/164898_slide.jpg?v=1)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 28 January, 2013, 04:48:32 PM
Yep, it's true.

As I understand it, Dredd composer Paul Leonard Morgan created a piece of software called Paul, which slows down a chosen piece of music. The famous example of the software in use was a Bieber song, the clip of which went viral a couple of years ago. To generate the same sound, Leonard-Morgan recorded his own version of the Bieber song, then slowed it down, and it's this that piece of music appears in the finished film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 January, 2013, 04:52:46 PM
It's true.

Bloodshed, black humour and a bigger body count than Saving Private Ryan aside, there is a beauty and majesty to the film, a bleak poetry — especially evident in its balletic 3D design — that is accentuated by a remarkable meditative electronic score by composer Paul Leonard-Morgan.

Surprisingly, that score stems from an unlikely source: Justin Bieber!

"Geoff Barrow from Portishead is a Dredd fan and he and over the years he'd been putting together music he wrote and put it together as an album called Drokk.  Drokk is a swear word in the Dredd books. Anyway, when we were done shooting I showed Geoff an early cut of the film, and he pointed me towards this software he found that makes music run 800 times slower, just like the "slo-mo" drug does to its victims in the movie. He sent me a link to a Justin Bieber song slowed down 800 times and it became this stunning trippy choral music. The whole movie was temped to Justin Bieber, in fact. Paul recreated that Bieber music on his own and slowed it down 800 times and we use that in the movie."


http://metronews.ca/scene/374978/dredd-3d-might-make-you-a-belieber/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QspuCt1FM9M

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 January, 2013, 04:56:40 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :o :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 January, 2013, 04:59:22 PM


Tight black leathers, gay bars, Justin Bieber. How could you've been no naive, John?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 28 January, 2013, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 January, 2013, 04:59:22 PM


Tight black leathers, gay bars, Justin Bieber. How could you've been no naive, John?
:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 28 January, 2013, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 January, 2013, 04:56:40 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :o :'(

Seconded.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 28 January, 2013, 05:21:33 PM
Bieber or not, the soundtrack continues to be my absolute favourite thing about the film. It's just so right. I'm not really one for listening to soundtracks in their own right, but Dredd got a lot of play in the last few months of 2012.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 28 January, 2013, 05:34:31 PM
Bieber in slo-mo while being thrown off a building... that's harsh even for Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 28 January, 2013, 06:02:30 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 28 January, 2013, 05:34:31 PM
Bieber in slo-mo while being thrown off a building... that's harsh even for Dredd.

Bieber given slo-mo while being thrown off a building, however...

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strangelysaucy on 28 January, 2013, 06:07:37 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 28 January, 2013, 06:02:30 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 28 January, 2013, 05:34:31 PM
Bieber in slo-mo while being thrown off a building... that's harsh even for Dredd.

Bieber given slo-mo while being thrown off a building, however...

Cheers

Jim

seconded!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 28 January, 2013, 06:10:28 PM
Off on a tangent, . . . did anybody notice the dead fatty and his belly wheel in the opening chase scene in Peach Tree's Mall?  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 28 January, 2013, 06:18:20 PM
I think that was one of the first things we noticed. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 28 January, 2013, 06:35:36 PM
In fact there's a whole other thread about it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strangelysaucy on 28 January, 2013, 06:37:04 PM
In my fevered mind I remembered seeing Nemesis the Warlock on the hottie house sign in the opening scenes...

turns out it's just an arrow....OR IS IT?  :o

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/preddyboy666/Untitled-1-2_zps6ceed1db.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 28 January, 2013, 06:50:44 PM
Once you see Nemesis there you can't unsee it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 28 January, 2013, 07:14:03 PM
Quote from: strangelysaucy on 28 January, 2013, 06:37:04 PM
In my fevered mind I remembered seeing Nemesis the Warlock on the hottie house sign in the opening scenes...

turns out it's just an arrow....OR IS IT?  :o

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/preddyboy666/Untitled-1-2_zps6ceed1db.jpg)
Sweet jovis drokk your right!  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 28 January, 2013, 07:21:01 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 28 January, 2013, 06:35:36 PM
In fact there's a whole other thread about it!

Bloody ell' I've been away for to long. Time to catch up on past posts!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 28 January, 2013, 07:21:45 PM
Nice spot!!! Might not be intentional but maybe...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 January, 2013, 07:37:34 PM
That does look very Nemesisy. I've only just noticed the huge 'drokk' on the driver's seat, which shows how much attention I pay.

(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/5641/drokk.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 28 January, 2013, 08:08:06 PM
I'll admit I've yet to see the scene again on DVD- but if anyone went to the private screening in Soho...

I am sure that there was a shot of Anderson pulling the badge off her armour vest, as I can remember looking at the empty space it left, and thinking it sounded and looked like a velcro system when she did it.

But, on the DVD, it just shows Anderson handing Dredd her badge directly ?

Anyone ?



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 28 January, 2013, 09:20:38 PM
The film posters 'Kryslers Mark'...and (I think) 'she's busting out'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 28 January, 2013, 10:17:36 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 28 January, 2013, 09:20:38 PM
The film posters 'Kryslers Mark'...and (I think) 'she's busting out'.
Spotted Kryslers Mark on first viewing. Helps that the fact the kid is bald.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 January, 2013, 10:26:16 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 28 January, 2013, 10:17:36 PM
Spotted Kryslers Mark on first viewing. Helps that the fact the kid is bald.


He wasn't.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img191/8626/snapshot20130128at10243.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 28 January, 2013, 10:59:55 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 January, 2013, 10:26:16 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 28 January, 2013, 10:17:36 PM
Spotted Kryslers Mark on first viewing. Helps that the fact the kid is bald.


He wasn't.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img191/8626/snapshot20130128at10243.png)
Ah! Thanks for that Joe Soap, could have looked like a right prat there for a minuet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 28 January, 2013, 11:56:00 PM
That was one of the other things I spotted on first viewing.

Took ages to spot 'Minty is the Law'... Second time I saw DVD. I saw the film at the Pre-release + paid to see it 5 times... So I saw the 'Minty is the Law' on viewing 8.

I didn't see the dog till pointed out...

Loads of stuff I probably haven't spotted.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 29 January, 2013, 10:32:47 AM
I would have missed the Minty graffiti if it hadn't been posted here first. Seeing 'Chopper' was great though.

Did anyone note that Anderson first refers to the CJ as 'Sir'. Perhaps female commanders are referred to this way in the military (I don't know) ...Perhaps the original CJ actor was to be male & scenes either side of the mirror were shot at different times...but I couldn't help think that the film CJ was offering us a more effeminate Dan Francisco than appears in the progs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 January, 2013, 10:45:52 AM


CJ was intended as a female  - as per leaked script - before the role was cast. 'Sir' is an old-fashioned military term when used for a female, not sure if it happens so much these days.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 29 January, 2013, 10:54:28 AM
It could also have been deliberate - to tell us a little about the judges, and how - as in the comics - they don't distinguish or discriminate between genders.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 29 January, 2013, 11:13:55 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 January, 2013, 10:45:52 AM


CJ was intended as a female  - as per leaked script - before the role was cast. 'Sir' is an old-fashioned military term when used for a female, not sure if it happens so much these days.

I see. I liked it, it threw me...but I liked that. I liked Dredd's silence in that scene too, and his reflection.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 29 January, 2013, 11:36:29 AM
I just got to say, "It's not marginal, they failed" in a conversation in the office.
It has made my day.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 29 January, 2013, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 29 January, 2013, 11:36:29 AM
I just got to say, "It's not marginal, they failed" in a conversation in the office.
It has made my day.
:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 January, 2013, 12:11:40 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 29 January, 2013, 11:36:29 AM
I just got to say, "It's not marginal, they failed" in a conversation in the office.

That means they get a sequel, right?

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 29 January, 2013, 12:15:31 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 29 January, 2013, 12:11:40 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 29 January, 2013, 11:36:29 AM
I just got to say, "It's not marginal, they failed" in a conversation in the office.

That means they get a sequel, right?

Cheers

Jim

I should imagine so!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 29 January, 2013, 04:19:52 PM
Just to rub a bit of salt in the wound, check out 111 film series that are getting sequels (including such cinematic gems as; Resident Evil, Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland, Indiana Jones, American Pie, Austin Powers, Bourne, Despicable Me, Men in Black, Paranormal Activity, Pirates of the Caribbean, Project X, Prometheus, Salt, The Smurfs, Snow White and the Huntsman, Taken, Wanted, xXx and Yogi Bear).

Hooray!

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/24211/111-movie-sequels-currently-in-the-works (http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/24211/111-movie-sequels-currently-in-the-works)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 January, 2013, 04:30:53 PM


At least the Raid is getting a sequel with a budget increase of $3 million.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 29 January, 2013, 04:42:42 PM
Project X is getting a sequel?  :o
Who in there right fucking mind allowd THAT to happen?! That movie was appauling and an abomination.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 January, 2013, 04:45:53 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 29 January, 2013, 04:42:42 PM
Project X is getting a sequel?  :o
Who in there right fucking mind allowd THAT to happen?!

All the people who paid for its success at the box-office. Not to forget it being the most downloaded film of last year.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 29 January, 2013, 04:51:11 PM
Too many of those films were not worthy of a sequel (Snow White, bleech) and WE'RE holding our collective breath over Dredd. There's no drokking justice.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 29 January, 2013, 04:56:21 PM
That's kind of my point.

What's perhaps most depressing is the once-decent series that continue to limp from installment to installment, even though they stopped being good years ago, coasting on name recognition and familiarity alone.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 29 January, 2013, 05:35:40 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 January, 2013, 04:45:53 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 29 January, 2013, 04:42:42 PM
Project X is getting a sequel?  :o
Who in there right fucking mind allowd THAT to happen?!

All the people who paid for its success at the box-office. Not to forget it being the most downloaded film of last year.
Fuck em! Not to put people's taste's down but the movie was a vile, crude, unfunny, uninteresting and just all round HORRIBLE experience. There truely is no justice in this world.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 29 January, 2013, 05:38:05 PM
Quote from: radiator on 29 January, 2013, 04:19:52 PM
Just to rub a bit of salt in the wound, check out 111 film series that are getting sequels (including such cinematic gems as; Resident Evil, Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland, Indiana Jones, American Pie, Austin Powers, Bourne, Despicable Me, Men in Black, Paranormal Activity, Pirates of the Caribbean, Project X, Prometheus, Salt, The Smurfs, Snow White and the Huntsman, Taken, Wanted, xXx and Yogi Bear).

Hooray!

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/24211/111-movie-sequels-currently-in-the-works (http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/24211/111-movie-sequels-currently-in-the-works)
The only film there that deserves it going by the past films is Bourne. The rest can suck a dick. Hope they all bomb.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 29 January, 2013, 05:42:45 PM
Yogi Bear?

Jesus wept....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 29 January, 2013, 05:44:29 PM
There was an original film of Yogi Bear? Must have missed that one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 29 January, 2013, 05:52:31 PM
It was one of those creepy too-realistic cgi ones - there's an excelent mash up on YouTube where BooBoo kills Yogi though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 29 January, 2013, 06:02:32 PM
The thing that's most frustrating for me is that the general public are only now realising how good of a film Dredd is. Such a damn shame.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 29 January, 2013, 06:11:13 PM
QuoteThe thing that's most frustrating for me is that the general public are only now realising how good of a film Dredd is. Such a damn shame.

Yep. I imagine many of us have had conversations like this:

"Woah, Dredd is amazing!"

"Yeah. Shame it flopped and they probably won't do another one".

"Yeah, that's so annoying!".

"Yeah, so did you go and see it at the cinema?"

"Um... No...".

My brother in law was raving about Dredd on facebook the other week, saying how he didn't want it to end. I hassled him to see it at the cinema when it came out. He went to see The Expendables 2 instead.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 29 January, 2013, 06:58:25 PM
Yeah, I just want to tear my hair out every time someone asks 'Have you seen Dredd yet?' Yeah, bunch of times, in the cinema, when it was RELEASED. Creeps.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 29 January, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
I'm getting people at work trying to tell me(the person who was singing its praises upon release) how good Dredd is and that they wished they had gone to the cinema to see it in 3d .They now all hope for a sequel.F*$*ING  MORONS
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 29 January, 2013, 07:34:45 PM
Quote from: radiator on 29 January, 2013, 06:11:13 PM
QuoteThe thing that's most frustrating for me is that the general public are only now realising how good of a film Dredd is. Such a damn shame.

Yep. I imagine many of us have had conversations like this:

"Woah, Dredd is amazing!"

"Yeah. Shame it flopped and they probably won't do another one".

"Yeah, that's so annoying!".

"Yeah, so did you go and see it at the cinema?"

"Um... No...".


Yep..

And also that feeling of people telling me Dredd was awesome.. I. FUCKING. TOLD. YOU. MONTHS. AGO!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 29 January, 2013, 07:41:09 PM
I dunno. There are some good films (not the last Bourne) on that list ( better than Dredd ) that deserve a sequel. Just because we don't  get one doesn't  mean they should't.

As brilliant Scottish songsmith Roddy Frame once sang:
P-e-r-s-p-e-c-t-i-v-e

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 29 January, 2013, 07:50:22 PM
Sorry, my perspective is blinkered by the restricted vision of this bad-ass Judge helmet I have on. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 January, 2013, 08:07:24 PM
I gotta agree with the last few posts.

I am fucking sick of hearing this at work and on the net. There was one bloke bleating on about Dredd NEEDS a sequel on facebook and that he had only just watched it on disc and how he wished he'd watched it at the cinema and him being a life long fan of Dredd didn't know anything about the movie beforehand >:D

Obviously JOE SOAP and a certain moi popped up and gently told him that we went to the pictures to see it when it came out after knowing about it for over a year, due to being fans of the character!!!!

This is nearly as insane as the bollocks we had to put up with before the film from the Stallone fans telling us that 'HE' was Dredd ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 29 January, 2013, 08:26:33 PM
That is a common concensus.

What do you mean it flopped at the cinema it's a brilliant film.
Did you see it at the cinema?
Erm no.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 29 January, 2013, 08:45:46 PM
What I don't understand is where the comic-con crowds were in the US?...with all the artists and writers that have gone west, the Johnny Appleseeds that revitalised so much in US comics over the years, there has to be curiosity?...and fans of Karl Urban's filmography??? Where were they?...or was the film patchy in distribution? Or are people just too well equipped to bother with cinema anymore? (Lincoln had only 30 people when I saw it on Saturday night).

I've seen Dredd 3 times now. I'm pretty sure this will stand as a wee classic long in to the future. The cast acted solid all the way. DNA will make money on this over the years...just not fast enough. They got so much more right than wrong, I almost couldn't believe how well they captured it in essence.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 29 January, 2013, 09:38:01 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 29 January, 2013, 08:45:46 PM
What I don't understand is where the comic-con crowds were in the US?

There is no comic-con crowd. Pretty much every film that has screened there to rave reviews and fan geek-outs has flopped at the box office. Studios have realised this in the last year so there's less big stuff getting debuted there now.
Title: Vid slugs
Post by: DKCX on 29 January, 2013, 09:52:38 PM
Dredd Comic Reference abeit slightly.
Vid slugs
The window reads from Spanish as the following
books
vid slugs
gift cards for adults

in response to your wishes

58:11 into the movie.

Agree completely regarding morons praising the movie and wishing they had known about it despite my one man campaign with my friends.  >:(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 January, 2013, 09:56:17 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 29 January, 2013, 09:38:01 PM
There is no comic-con crowd. Pretty much every film that has screened there to rave reviews and fan geek-outs has flopped at the box office.

Except for District 9, which debuted at Comic-Con.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 30 January, 2013, 01:17:34 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 29 January, 2013, 07:34:45 PM
Quote from: radiator on 29 January, 2013, 06:11:13 PM
QuoteThe thing that's most frustrating for me is that the general public are only now realising how good of a film Dredd is. Such a damn shame.

Yep. I imagine many of us have had conversations like this:

"Woah, Dredd is amazing!"

"Yeah. Shame it flopped and they probably won't do another one".

"Yeah, that's so annoying!".

"Yeah, so did you go and see it at the cinema?"

"Um... No...".


Yep..

And also that feeling of people telling me Dredd was awesome.. I. FUCKING. TOLD. YOU. MONTHS. AGO!!!!!


I am getting exactly the same.  It's insane. 

'Oh yeah, Dave, I saw Dredd the other day.'
'Did you like it?'
'Yeah, loved it. I wish I'd seen it in 3D now.'
*sound of me banging my head on my desk*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 30 January, 2013, 01:32:22 AM
Yeah, I think we are all going through this by the sound of it...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 30 January, 2013, 01:38:37 AM
I can't get that following music out of my head. DNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN d, d, d,didudendundnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 30 January, 2013, 09:21:46 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 January, 2013, 09:56:17 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 29 January, 2013, 09:38:01 PM
There is no comic-con crowd. Pretty much every film that has screened there to rave reviews and fan geek-outs has flopped at the box office.

Except for District 9, which debuted at Comic-Con.

Baffling.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 January, 2013, 10:22:47 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 30 January, 2013, 09:21:46 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 January, 2013, 09:56:17 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 29 January, 2013, 09:38:01 PM
There is no comic-con crowd. Pretty much every film that has screened there to rave reviews and fan geek-outs has flopped at the box office.

Except for District 9, which debuted at Comic-Con.

Baffling.


Not really. A ComicCon audience is not a barometer of mass appeal, it's just an reaction indicator from a certain sub-culture. Bringing your film to the public is a different matter.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 30 January, 2013, 10:26:56 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 January, 2013, 10:22:47 AM
Not really. A ComicCon audience is not a barometer of mass appeal, it's just an reaction indicator from a certain sub-culture. Bringing your film to the public is a different matter.

Well, I'd argue that it wasn't what most people mean when they say 'ComicCon audience'. I attended the screening at SDCC and the vast majority of the audience weren't ordinary cinema-goers, they were professional film reviewers, both from print and online, who promptly went and gave the film massively positive reviews. Which is where the buzz came from.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 January, 2013, 10:50:53 AM


I can see that all right with the increase of attention given to the con in recent years but I suppose it can be a but of a red-herring to believe that a positive critical reception, from any screening, should translate to the box-office when there is so much luck - and money - involved in other areas.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 30 January, 2013, 11:21:16 AM
Quote from: Rusty on 29 January, 2013, 05:38:05 PMThe only film there that deserves it going by the past films is Bourne. The rest can suck a dick. Hope they all bomb.
Having watched the most recent one, which was like some kind of patchwork script of bits of ideas, I'm not sure I'd go that far.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 30 January, 2013, 11:41:33 AM
As I said, there are certain film series in that list that were once decent, or at least respected.

I actually really like the first Austin Powers movie, for example, but each installment has got exponentially worse - the sequel was poor and I found the third one completely unwatchable. As I understand it, the most recent Bourne movie was almost universally despised. I wouldn't know because I don't go to see movies I know will be mediocre at best. A lot of people have a soft spot for the first Pirates or Transformers movies, but finding someone with good things to say about any of the sequels... I find it baffling that hordes of people continue to turn out for these tired old franchises, long after they have completely run out of steam.

Of course, I never expected Dredd to be a huge hit on release (I always doubted it would break $100m worldwide), but the absolute apathy/ignorance it was met with was a real shock.

Still, District 9 and Looper did well, so at least some decent genre movies can still succeed simply by being good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 30 January, 2013, 11:48:39 AM
Quote from: Molch-R on 30 January, 2013, 10:26:56 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 January, 2013, 10:22:47 AM
Not really. A ComicCon audience is not a barometer of mass appeal, it's just an reaction indicator from a certain sub-culture. Bringing your film to the public is a different matter.

Well, I'd argue that it wasn't what most people mean when they say 'ComicCon audience'. I attended the screening at SDCC and the vast majority of the audience weren't ordinary cinema-goers, they were professional film reviewers, both from print and online, who promptly went and gave the film massively positive reviews. Which is where the buzz came from.

That all makes sense...but I still can't get my head around it. Excellent film, big buzz, biggest DVD seller....uuuh.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 30 January, 2013, 11:59:03 AM
Out of interest, does anyone have a link to those two funny Dredd reviews from those Christian websites?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 30 January, 2013, 12:35:30 PM
Quote from: radiator on 30 January, 2013, 11:41:33 AMOf course, I never expected Dredd to be a huge hit on release (I always doubted it would break $100m worldwide), but the absolute apathy/ignorance it was met with was a real shock.
Quite. It's also a pity that the one comic-book movie to not do a disservice in some way to women also got so overlooked. Those women sci-fi fans I follow (notably journo Laura Sneddon) were very positive about it, and it even got coverage in feminist blogs; but, again, the audience wasn't reached, because most of the people who saw the film appeared to be blokes. A pity.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 30 January, 2013, 01:02:48 PM
It's sad to see it described as a 'bloke's film', as it really isn't - out of the four friends of mine who really loved the film the most, two were girls.

My sister opted not to watch Dredd as she "doesn't like that sort of thing", an attitude that always really bugs me. There are certain genres I'm inclined to like such as sci-fi/action, but I don't discriminate - I will happily watch romantic comedies and musicals, for example - so long as they're good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 30 January, 2013, 06:17:51 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 30 January, 2013, 11:21:16 AM
Quote from: Rusty on 29 January, 2013, 05:38:05 PMThe only film there that deserves it going by the past films is Bourne. The rest can suck a dick. Hope they all bomb.
Having watched the most recent one, which was like some kind of patchwork script of bits of ideas, I'm not sure I'd go that far.
Yeah, I mean the first 3 with Damon in them (even if the 3rd runs out of steam). I haven't watched the Legacy one, but I hear it's not that great. First 3 were top tier, though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 30 January, 2013, 06:36:03 PM
Got two chums to wtahc it. One decribed it as 'to bright compared to the Dark Knight movies' and the other 'not as good as the one with Stallone'. There both idiots.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 30 January, 2013, 06:45:39 PM
Everyone I know who saw it (probably about 10 or so people) either liked it or loved it. My neighbor, who it turns out is a bit of a Dredd fan, thought it was OK but had some issues with the less futuristic, less comic book look of the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 30 January, 2013, 07:46:51 PM
Dredd v Chan. Just noticed the indentation left on Chans neck after Dredd chopped him.
Attention to detail, nice.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 30 January, 2013, 08:09:12 PM
Try freeze framing when Anderson mows down Lex - he fucking disintegrates - his chin explodes and everything. It's awesome, but I didn't notice it at all until I got the Blu.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judda fett on 30 January, 2013, 08:13:01 PM
I put a mate on to it the other week, not a genre fan at all but really enjoyed the film. During the cold snap the other week he managed to slip a "Freeze, why?" Into conversation. Needless to say I was pleased.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 30 January, 2013, 08:16:17 PM
Only had one complaint from anyone who I know and he said he didn't like the CGI blood on screen.


Fast as Drokk I came back with a witty retort saying [spoiler]FUCK OFF[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judda fett on 30 January, 2013, 08:19:30 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 30 January, 2013, 08:16:17 PM
Only had one complaint from anyone who I know and he said he didn't like the CGI blood on screen.


Fast as Drokk I came back with a witty retort saying [spoiler]FUCK OFF[/spoiler]

Concise and to the point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 30 January, 2013, 11:29:38 PM
Quote from: radiator on 30 January, 2013, 08:09:12 PM
Try freeze framing when Anderson mows down Lex - he fucking disintegrates - his chin explodes and everything. It's awesome, but I didn't notice it at all until I got the Blu.

I didn't notice the chinplosion either. She's a right bitch with that MP5.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 31 January, 2013, 08:42:25 AM
Quote from: vzzbux on 30 January, 2013, 07:46:51 PM
Dredd v Chan. Just noticed the indentation left on Chans neck after Dredd chopped him.
Attention to detail, nice.




V
That made me whince a bit. Not easy to do to a chap who's favourate film is Videodrome.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 31 January, 2013, 08:49:04 AM
Quote from: judda fett on 30 January, 2013, 08:19:30 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 30 January, 2013, 08:16:17 PM
Only had one complaint from anyone who I know and he said he didn't like the CGI blood on screen.


Fast as Drokk I came back with a witty retort saying [spoiler]FUCK OFF[/spoiler]

Concise and to the point.

Touché
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 31 January, 2013, 09:28:58 AM
Quote from: radiator on 30 January, 2013, 08:09:12 PM
Try freeze framing when Anderson mows down Lex - he fucking disintegrates - his chin explodes and everything. It's awesome, but I didn't notice it at all until I got the Blu.

I'll need to watch that closer, still didn't spot it on the blu-ray.

At the point where Anderson escapes and puts the gun under the gang members chin and fires up through his skill me and my girlfriend both turned to each other in a kind of 'fecking hell' sort of way. We'd both seen the film in the cinema but I'd been under the impression the muzzle flare obscured any fine detail, on the blu-ray there's a ton of gory detail we saw for the first time. Same goes for a few of the shootings actually, it's way more visceral now that you can appreciate the chunky aftermath of the bullets more. I probably sound like a sick puppy right now...

Incidentally, my girlfriend loved it and is always up for watching it again, so all that 'blokes film' stuff seems way off the mark. She's even started picking up the PSI Files collections since seeing it the first time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 31 January, 2013, 10:11:01 AM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 31 January, 2013, 09:28:58 AMIncidentally, my girlfriend loved it and is always up for watching it again, so all that 'blokes film' stuff seems way off the mark.
Here's the thing: women like kick-ass action films, too. What they don't like is action films dripping in sexism and tokenism, which is more or less all of them in that genre. Even films that largely lack the former usually end up with the latter—a pretty good example is Predators. That wasn't a bad film, but it was clear at some point someone important went "er, guys, we might want to have one woman in this, you know, for balance", hence the final line-up of eight blokes and Alice Braga. Given the nature of the film, there's really no reason why that was skewed so heavily. Dredd, by contrast, has Anderson arguably as the most important character and also Ma Ma—two of the three leads. (Or if you want to count Wood Harris as a lead, that's stlll a 50/50 split.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 31 January, 2013, 10:22:26 AM
You mean two-way split surely? ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 31 January, 2013, 10:22:55 AM
QuoteHere's the thing: women like kick-ass action films, too. What they don't like is action films dripping in sexism and tokenism, which is more or less all of them in that genre.

Absolutely. I'm the same with rom-coms - just as with pretty much every other genre, most of them are lazy, offensive, pandering shit that I have no interest in whatsoever. But if they're well-written, well-acted and ring true they can be among my favourite ever films, like say When Harry Met Sally.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 31 January, 2013, 11:04:43 AM
Don't forget Aliens Vs Predator (with the Kill 'tattoo' scene). That was a pretty strong female lead.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 31 January, 2013, 12:10:36 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 31 January, 2013, 11:04:43 AM
Don't forget Aliens Vs Predator (with the Kill 'tattoo' scene). That was a pretty strong female lead.
Such a pity that's one of the few things going for it.  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 31 January, 2013, 12:15:25 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 31 January, 2013, 12:10:36 PM
Such a pity that's one of the few things going for it.  ;)

Is that not a lift from the comic?

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 31 January, 2013, 10:04:20 PM
I'm pretty sure it was lifted from a novel at the very least. Though I couldn't say which.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 January, 2013, 10:12:59 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 31 January, 2013, 12:15:25 PM
Is that not a lift from the comic?

Yep, one of my first graphic novels, and still one of my faves

Aliens Vs Predator

(http://images.comiccollectorlive.com/covers/c05/c0503e69-e93e-4092-9f95-2246ad6ed1e0.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 02 February, 2013, 07:19:48 AM
You guys have probably seen this but just in case I'll pop it up anyway,Mark Miller briefly talks about Dredd and it's sequel.
I don't even want to know how far off from 60 million it is  ::)

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=73637


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DaveGYNWA on 02 February, 2013, 08:41:12 AM
Dredd is now on Sky Box Office - I found out as a result of a load of messages last night from a mate to the effect of "oh man, I really wish I'd listened to you and seen this in the cinema"....my response was "yep, so do I"

He's heading out today to get the Blu-Ray.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 02 February, 2013, 09:08:15 AM
After I read these posts I chased up a pal who's been looking forward to the film...same deal, the film came and went (US) too quick. He then bought it on iTunes. Loved it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mogzilla on 02 February, 2013, 09:36:06 AM
they used a bieber song??? :o  yes i know i'm behind but ive been busy...  the fact that high school vampire musical torture porn the movie gets sequel after sequel is depressing as is the endless stream of no budget films on the scifi channel  could they stop making them and fund one good film instead oooh i dunno like dredd2?
 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 02 February, 2013, 07:12:40 PM
I vote this chap directs Dredd 2 when it never gets made.

http://geektyrant.com/news/2013/2/2/sci-fi-short-film-noon-to-get-feature-film-treatment.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 02 February, 2013, 07:13:56 PM
If Sir Travis doesn't return.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 02 February, 2013, 07:35:33 PM
For me, the reason most people I know who didn't see it in the cinema chose to do so because it was in 3D and they didn't think it'd be worth the extra cash that those tickets cost (or because they just hate 3D). I think they should have released more 2D prints; I know people (and I'm one of them, Dredd being the exception) who actively avoid 3D films if that's the only option presented, and will just wait until it comes out on DVD.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Muon on 03 February, 2013, 02:20:02 AM
I posted a bit about this in the "welcome" section, but I'm a new member, originally from the UK and now in Japan. Lapsed reader from the 80s 90s who recently subscribed again etc. etc. The movie is out in the cinema here on February 16, and I can't wait. I've resisted watching on the internet or on DVD all this time because of what I read here about it being so much fun to see on the big screen.

Anyway, I just wanted to give something useful back after finding so much useful information by lurking on this forum over the last year or so, not only about the movie, but also about which stories I should catch up on from my years in the (be)wilderness. There seem to be high hopes about the film doing well in Japan, but I have to say that from the evidence I've seen its release here is unlikely to add much to the numbers. Foreign movies don't tend to make a massive amount here unless they're something like Harry Potter, and Dredd will only be shown at 20 cinemas nationwide (out of 3,000 screens).

I got advance tickets for me and my friends at a cinema in Tokyo yesterday and got a free gift of some "Dredd" coasters  :lol: The coasters are pretty cheap-looking, like round beer mats with black-and-white photocopied likenesses of Dredd, Anderson and Ma Ma on them. I doubt they had a lot of money to spend on marketing here. I had a quick look at the booklet of advance tickets the woman had and it looked like they'd already sold a fair few - possibly 25 or so. That said, it's highly likely they were all sold to male British expats of "a certain age". I had a few beers with a few Japanese mates and acquaintances later that day and did a quick survey of whether they'd heard anything about the film. None of them had heard of it except for one bloke who's quite a film buff anyway. He said he saw a trailer for it at the cinema the other day. I asked for his opinion about how it looked and he just said something non-commital like, "I was quite surprised to see that there are films about this kind of hero too." Which seems a polite Japanese way of saying he probably won't go and see it. :'(

I guess my conclusion is that I wouldn't expect too much of the Japanese box office. Of course I'll be doing my best and I've already roped in a couple of people to see it with me. If it turns out to be as fun as everyone says it is I might see it more than once, which I haven't done at the cinema since Titanic came out (I was young and stupid back then).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 03 February, 2013, 03:52:23 AM
Hey so the other day I was searching for pictures of leda headey, and this one popped up (on google) of her naked, now i'm not sure if it was real or whatever, but I thought it was amazing.

So, yeah, Dredd is ace.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NorthVox on 03 February, 2013, 06:28:42 AM
FINALLY got around to watching it today. Didn't want to see it in cinema as I hate cinemas, thought I could wait til DVD release, then I ended up having to spend my money on silly things like food. Lucky enough a friend let me borrow their copy. Was so good, I watched it twice in a row!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 03 February, 2013, 01:04:19 PM
Quote from: PreacherCain on 02 February, 2013, 07:35:33 PMI think they should have released more 2D prints
Definitely at the tail. There was clearly a demand, and it could have secured the film a longer run on smaller 2D screens while 3D ones were used for newer movies. Still, what's done is done. At least the film appears to be doing well on shiny disc, and reaching an audience. It's moved from "box office bomb" to "box office bomb that found its audience in the home", which is more or less what Urban seemed to hint would happen all along. Smart guy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 03 February, 2013, 05:42:20 PM
Quote from: RicheyJ on 03 February, 2013, 02:20:02 AM
There seem to be high hopes about the film doing well in Japan, but I have to say that from the evidence I've seen its release here is unlikely to add much to the numbers ... Dredd will only be shown at 20 cinemas nationwide (out of 3,000 screens). I got advance tickets for me and my friends at a cinema in Tokyo yesterday ... I had a quick look at the booklet of advance tickets the woman had and it looked like they'd already sold a fair few - possibly 25 or so. ...

I had a few beers with a few Japanese mates and acquaintances later that day and did a quick survey of whether they'd heard anything about the film. None of them had heard of it except for one bloke who's quite a film buff anyway. He said he saw a trailer for it at the cinema the other day. I asked for his opinion about how it looked and he just said something non-commital like, "I was quite surprised to see that there are films about this kind of hero too." Which seems a polite Japanese way of saying he probably won't go and see it. :'( I guess my conclusion is that I wouldn't expect too much of the Japanese box office.

Thanks for posting, Richey. I've heard everything's much more expensive in Japan, any chance those tickets were changing hands for $3 million each?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 03 February, 2013, 06:24:47 PM
Quote from: RicheyJ on 03 February, 2013, 02:20:02 AMForeign movies don't tend to make a massive amount here unless they're something like Harry Potter, and Dredd will only be shown at 20 cinemas nationwide (out of 3,000 screens).
Bah. There goes my hope of it making ten zillions in Japan.

It's nice to have a source on the ground though. Welcome to the forum, Richey, and if you have any questions feel free to message Joe Soap!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: watto911 on 03 February, 2013, 08:38:04 PM
Don't know if this has been mentioned but chance to win Dredd props on Slashfilm.
http://www.slashfilm.com/contest-win-two-authentic-props-from-dredd-3d/#more-159206
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 February, 2013, 08:49:21 PM
Nice find, might as well give it a go ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 03 February, 2013, 08:53:19 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 February, 2013, 08:49:21 PM
Nice find, might as well give it a go ;)
Oh no you bloody don't! :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 February, 2013, 08:54:17 PM
Just choosing a picture now ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 03 February, 2013, 09:08:30 PM
Well that's that won then, no point entering. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 03 February, 2013, 11:51:40 PM
...anyone happen to notice how Ezquerra-like that visage is when reflected in the rough glass of the monitor of the 'well you got one now' scene? ....pure scowl.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Muon on 04 February, 2013, 12:36:35 AM
Quote from: sauchie on 03 February, 2013, 05:42:20 PM

Thanks for posting, Richey. I've heard everything's much more expensive in Japan, any chance those tickets were changing hands for $3 million each?
Actually, it is pretty expensive in Japan, especially with the strong yen. Cinema tickets cost 1,800 yen, and with recent exchange rates that's over $20. So me and the 25 others who bought advance tickets have already earned the film over $10,000!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Muon on 04 February, 2013, 12:56:18 AM
Quote from: RicheyJ on 04 February, 2013, 12:36:35 AM
Quote from: sauchie on 03 February, 2013, 05:42:20 PM

Thanks for posting, Richey. I've heard everything's much more expensive in Japan, any chance those tickets were changing hands for $3 million each?
Actually, it is pretty expensive in Japan, especially with the strong yen. Cinema tickets cost 1,800 yen, and with recent exchange rates that's over $20. So me and the 25 others who bought advance tickets have already earned the film over $10,000!

OK, make that $500, but it's a start.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MercZ on 05 February, 2013, 05:25:19 AM
Quote from: RicheyJ on 03 February, 2013, 02:20:02 AM
None of them had heard of it except for one bloke who's quite a film buff anyway. He said he saw a trailer for it at the cinema the other day. I asked for his opinion about how it looked and he just said something non-commital like, "I was quite surprised to see that there are films about this kind of hero too." Which seems a polite Japanese way of saying he probably won't go and see it. :'(

Did he mean that in the sense that he read Dredd straight as a brutal law-enforcement guy?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Muon on 05 February, 2013, 10:15:16 AM
Quote from: MercZ on 05 February, 2013, 05:25:19 AM
Did he mean that in the sense that he read Dredd straight as a brutal law-enforcement guy?

Possibly - I guess that's the only impression you would get from the trailer if you don't know the source material. One thing is that the Japanese promotional material prominently uses the word "hero", possibly giving inaccurate connotations of a more straightforward, Superman-like character. Another thing is that he was clearly being polite and trying to give me some kind of reaction despite not being particularly interested in the film. Probably a bit like someone asking me what I thought of the trailer for "Les Miserables" and me saying "I was quite surprised to see Russell Crowe sings in it", all the while thinking "that looks like a pile of shite"  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 February, 2013, 07:40:06 PM

Bloody awesome!

Tonight after finishing work, there were old magazines in work kitchen, I pick one up for bus journey. it was last Sunday's Mail On Sunday's Live magazine. As enjoy read about new gadgets etc... but notice there was BAFTAs special pages, with interviews of British film actors/actresses and their roles and their choice of best film... many choices

Nick Frost is in it, and what his choice of best film?

BEST FILM 'Dredd. I've been waiting for 30 years for someone to attempt a successful version of the 2000 AD comic strip and I can happily tell my ten-year-old self that they did it. Fantastic. I loved it.'

Nice to know that! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 February, 2013, 08:25:46 PM
Quote from: watto911 on 03 February, 2013, 08:38:04 PM
Don't know if this has been mentioned but chance to win Dredd props on Slashfilm.
http://www.slashfilm.com/contest-win-two-authentic-props-from-dredd-3d/#more-159206

Just had an email back from the competition and guess what folks

I DROKKIN' WON

I actually feel light headed  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 05 February, 2013, 08:29:14 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 05 February, 2013, 07:40:06 PM

Bloody awesome!

Tonight after finishing work, there were old magazines in work kitchen, I pick one up for bus journey. it was last Sunday's Mail On Sunday's Live magazine. As enjoy read about new gadgets etc... but notice there was BAFTAs special pages, with interviews of British film actors/actresses and their roles and their choice of best film... many choices

Nick Frost is in it, and what his choice of best film?

BEST FILM 'Dredd. I've been waiting for 30 years for someone to attempt a successful version of the 2000 AD comic strip and I can happily tell my ten-year-old self that they did it. Fantastic. I loved it.'

Nice to know that! :)

My mum gets the Mail on Sunday and when I pop over to visit I always pick it up for the TV guide. Skimmed the BAFTA article because I was resigned that Dredd would not get a mention and be cruelly overlooked as the fine British production that it was, great to hear Nick Frost singing the film's praises!
Top man!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 05 February, 2013, 08:31:15 PM
Ha! Congrats CF, well done!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 05 February, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 February, 2013, 08:25:46 PM

Congratulations!

Quote from: watto911 on 03 February, 2013, 08:38:04 PM
Don't know if this has been mentioned but chance to win Dredd props on Slashfilm.
http://www.slashfilm.com/contest-win-two-authentic-props-from-dredd-3d/#more-159206

Just had an email back from the competition and guess what folks

I DROKKIN' WON

I actually feel light headed  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 February, 2013, 08:39:07 PM
This is the email they sent

John - has a contest ever been more tailor made for you?

Obviously, you won! Congratulations. You have your choice, either the costume or the license plates. You let me know and give me your full address and phone number and you'll get it in the mail direct from PropStore.

Congratulations!


I've decided to have the uniform :thumbsup:

Caz has just walked in and seen my beaming smile and knew I was happy about something Dredd related. She knows me too well :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 February, 2013, 08:39:11 PM
(http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/Dredd-Costume-550x733.jpg)



They'll come in handy when painting.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 05 February, 2013, 08:39:53 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 February, 2013, 08:25:46 PM
Quote from: watto911 on 03 February, 2013, 08:38:04 PM
Don't know if this has been mentioned but chance to win Dredd props on Slashfilm.
http://www.slashfilm.com/contest-win-two-authentic-props-from-dredd-3d/#more-159206

Just had an email back from the competition and guess what folks

I DROKKIN' WON

I actually feel light headed  :'(
You jammy man, CF! Coming here and rubbing it in! Congratultions.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 February, 2013, 08:40:08 PM
I reckon it'll fit Sam better than me but I'll give it a damn good try ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 05 February, 2013, 08:51:39 PM
Nice one cf  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 05 February, 2013, 09:05:29 PM
congatulations!

QuoteTo enter, here's what you're going to have to do. Send us a photo of you with your most obscure, cool piece of Judge Dredd memorabilia.

What particular item did you enter with? Or did you simply send 'em a link to the cellar and say "take your pick"?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 February, 2013, 09:13:45 PM
I sent my SFX picture along with a couple of others and a lovely write up ;)

That picture has helped me win two competitions up to now :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 06 February, 2013, 11:51:34 AM
Nice one CF  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 06 February, 2013, 01:11:26 PM
Well done CF ! :D Must feel like Xmas part 2

Cellar of Dredd to soon be renamed WAREHOUSE of Dredd........?? :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 06 February, 2013, 01:13:29 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 06 February, 2013, 01:11:26 PM
Well done CF ! :D Must feel like Xmas part 2

Cellar of Dredd to soon be renamed WAREHOUSE of Dredd........?? :P
He's working up to Dredd-World. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 February, 2013, 01:16:41 PM
Imagine if a theme park built such an area, I would probably explode :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 06 February, 2013, 02:12:10 PM
Was kind of a done deal given the entry rules lol...

But well done anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 06 February, 2013, 02:19:13 PM
CF has become the black hole of Dredd. Once an item gets near his event horizon there's no way for it to escape. ;)

He has put in the effort mind you, so his work should reap the rewards. Huzzah to him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklambo on 06 February, 2013, 04:33:50 PM
Seriously thought I had a good chance with this one...Sent a picture of me doing a "Cherrypicker" on my BMX bike from 1987 wearing a Judge Dredd T shirt...thought no one is going to beat that.....:-(
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/nicklambo/photo_zps36bc440e.jpg)

I was wrong.....:-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 February, 2013, 05:17:18 PM
This tells me there could be extra footage out there :o

To complete the set is Lex's helmet – a vital component to all Judges, performing as both a protective motorcycle helmet and defence against personal attack. The distinctive fibreglass helmet is decorated in the memorable black and burgundy colours with battle scars and scratches across the surface, identifiable as Lex's by the diagonal scratch across the badge. Interestingly this particular helmet has been adapted and specially rigged to house a hose inside which pumped and sprayed prop blood down the unfortunate law enforcer's face during an alternate take of his death scene.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2013, 05:23:29 PM

Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 February, 2013, 05:17:18 PM
This tells me there could be extra footage out there :o

I'm sure, in all, there are hundreds of different takes of the many shots from the film but they wouldn't be what you could call deleted scenes or extra. They're just choices or mistakes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 February, 2013, 05:26:37 PM
I like looking at alternate angled shots though  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2013, 05:32:59 PM


Don't we all. Probably never see them though.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 February, 2013, 06:39:30 PM
I really want to see the original opening execution. I thought it was really funny, one of my favourite bits from the leaked script.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 06 February, 2013, 07:53:24 PM
Was it ever actually shot...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 06 February, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 February, 2013, 05:26:37 PM
I like looking at alternate angled shots though  ;)

every DVD player I've had, even the cheapest, has had that "angle" option, but I've yet to find a DVD it works on!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 February, 2013, 08:31:55 PM
I dunno, but I thought maybe it would have been one of the bits they replaced with the re-shoots?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2013, 08:36:20 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 06 February, 2013, 07:53:24 PM
Was it ever actually shot...?


Yep, it was shot and was in the first assembly. Part of the December 2011 re-shoots in London concerned shooting the extended version of the scene in the shopping-centre. I believe it was re-shot to expand on the role of what Dredd and the Judges actually do - sentencing etc. - instead of Dredd just shooting someone in a crowd and not saying anything.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 07 February, 2013, 12:04:56 AM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 06 February, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 February, 2013, 05:26:37 PM
I like looking at alternate angled shots though  ;)

every DVD player I've had, even the cheapest, has had that "angle" option, but I've yet to find a DVD it works on!

Spider-man 2 extra features.. There's a look on set bit where you can flip though each and every mind numbing lay tedious angle that they shot of two blokes talking with another forty drinking coffee or fiddling with equipment.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 07 February, 2013, 12:39:41 AM
There was a lot of blood on Lex's face though. Not sure how much of it was CGI but the splattery parts definitely appeared to be.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: alyd on 07 February, 2013, 01:45:52 AM
One for the British TV viewers here;

He is the law... are you Shaw? ;)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img826/840/judgedeedw.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 07 February, 2013, 02:03:11 AM
Quote from: nicklambo on 06 February, 2013, 04:33:50 PM
Seriously thought I had a good chance with this one...Sent a picture of me doing a "Cherrypicker" on my BMX bike from 1987 wearing a Judge Dredd T shirt...thought no one is going to beat that.....:-(
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/nicklambo/photo_zps36bc440e.jpg)

I was wrong.....:-)

I think if you were juggling loaded lawgivers at the same time that may have put you over the top...JUST..Competing with CF is tough. ;) :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklambo on 07 February, 2013, 07:42:36 AM
You're not wrong!
:o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 07 February, 2013, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 06 February, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 February, 2013, 05:26:37 PM
I like looking at alternate angled shots though  ;)

every DVD player I've had, even the cheapest, has had that "angle" option, but I've yet to find a DVD it works on!

The 'Detroit Rock City' DVD had multiple angles during the Kiss concert at the end. I've also seen alternate 'angles' used for overlaying people doing commentaries MST3K style. Also on animation (such as Ghibli DVDs) sometimes you can flick between the sketches / roughs / final animation.

Like so much technical innovation in this area I think it was something developed for the porn industry (see also the zoom functions) but never really used because of the cost of doing it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 February, 2013, 11:00:18 AM

DREDD by DC Miller (http://jimmymcwicked.deviantart.com/):

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/da2d89c979ae5e430b9d91f5bb64197e/tumblr_mh1zccZXww1qg8i80o2_1280.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/9add16c80c2b0a51c8dce82976e7b9f0/tumblr_mh1zccZXww1qg8i80o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steven Sterlacchini on 07 February, 2013, 11:09:52 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 February, 2013, 11:10:32 AM
Wow...  :o that's beautiful...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 February, 2013, 11:27:21 AM
I really like the compromise between the comic and film pads.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 07 February, 2013, 01:40:02 PM
Love the pads,sort of in between the film and the comic,they would work in the movie setting nicely IF* another is ever made.



* big ask I know.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 07 February, 2013, 01:57:16 PM
Love that. That look would be perfect for an animated Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 07 February, 2013, 06:47:51 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2013, 08:36:20 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 06 February, 2013, 07:53:24 PM
Was it ever actually shot...?


Yep, it was shot and was in the first assembly. Part of the December 2011 re-shoots in London concerned shooting the extended version of the scene in the shopping-centre. I believe it was re-shot to expand on the role of what Dredd and the Judges actually do - sentencing etc. - instead of Dredd just shooting someone in a crowd and not saying anything.

Yeah, figured they probably shot it. Probably seemed a bit too slight as well as an intro to Dredd's character.

What would have been a cool idea would have been to have two of the perps surviving the crash. Dredd takes one out a la the original intro and then continues in to the building for the reshot one. I dunno. I'll shut up now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 07 February, 2013, 07:57:34 PM
QuoteThat look would be perfect for an animated Dredd.

Though obviously a live-action sequel is unlikely, I actually think an animated feature - or series - in the style of the DC animated movies - would potentially be viable in the future as a continuation of movie-Dredd.

I'd much, much rather that than straight to DVD low-budget sequels...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 February, 2013, 09:00:25 PM

Dredd still an awesome film!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 07 February, 2013, 09:11:16 PM
Indeed it is.

TV series? Cartoon? No, i want a proper cinema sequel with the same cast and crew, and i want it now! ( i know... i know... but a boy can dream)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 07 February, 2013, 09:41:43 PM
That half comic/half film animated style Dredd is GORGEOUS.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 07 February, 2013, 10:15:55 PM
Been following the chap for a while on DA. I agree, his designs are perfect for a Dredd animated series.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: watto911 on 07 February, 2013, 10:16:31 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 February, 2013, 08:25:46 PM
Quote from: watto911 on 03 February, 2013, 08:38:04 PM
Don't know if this has been mentioned but chance to win Dredd props on Slashfilm.
http://www.slashfilm.com/contest-win-two-authentic-props-from-dredd-3d/#more-159206

Just had an email back from the competition and guess what folks

I DROKKIN' WON

I actually feel light headed  :'(
Congrats CF. It was yours for the taking.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 08 February, 2013, 02:53:11 PM
Quote from: radiator on 07 February, 2013, 07:57:34 PM
QuoteThat look would be perfect for an animated Dredd.

Though obviously a live-action sequel is unlikely, I actually think an animated feature - or series - in the style of the DC animated movies - would potentially be viable in the future as a continuation of movie-Dredd.

I prefer DC's animated features over the hollywood blockbusters if I'm honest.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 08 February, 2013, 04:27:10 PM
Quote from: sheldipez on 08 February, 2013, 02:53:11 PM
Quote from: radiator on 07 February, 2013, 07:57:34 PM
QuoteThat look would be perfect for an animated Dredd.

Though obviously a live-action sequel is unlikely, I actually think an animated feature - or series - in the style of the DC animated movies - would potentially be viable in the future as a continuation of movie-Dredd.

I prefer DC's animated features over the hollywood blockbusters if I'm honest.
This. Mask of the Phantasm is SUPERB! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 08 February, 2013, 06:10:59 PM
Quote from: radiator on 07 February, 2013, 07:57:34 PM

Though obviously a live-action sequel is unlikely, I actually think an animated feature - or series - in the style of the DC animated movies - would potentially be viable in the future as a continuation of movie-Dredd.


The DC animations look really average. If only there was a stable of artists already familiar with the character, who already had experience of working in animation and concept design for film and television, whose distinctive styles and original ideas could be used as a basis for an animated Dredd feature.

MICK MCMAHON (http://i.imgur.com/UvSvc.jpg)

BRENDAN MCCARTHY  (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wpou898Uz54/ThFxMxu2TdI/AAAAAAAAApM/_87GijJVTTI/s1600/BackCover.jpg)  
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 February, 2013, 10:13:34 PM

Chase-scene storyboards:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img838/3918/53984320449652969351574.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img713/1418/24662204496693026832992.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img29/2966/65273204496899693478980.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img442/1806/69241204497549693413385.jpg)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Emp on 09 February, 2013, 01:52:14 AM
Being drunk and bored i decided to trawl through Youtube for reviews of Dredd and generally all are good apat from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCEg4SsHVkE , now everyone is entitled to an opinion but a least one of these people has know idea of the idea of Dredd.......that sais i am interested in the idea of "the big lie".....instead of the DJ'S is any future movie going to be based on "a question of judgement"?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: alyd on 10 February, 2013, 02:35:58 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 February, 2013, 10:13:34 PM

Chase-scene storyboards:

Thanks for those, very cool :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 10 February, 2013, 11:36:21 AM
 Great find JOE SOAP, love the shot of Dredd riding past the school bus with the kids faces at the window.

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mididoctors on 10 February, 2013, 12:24:26 PM
One gets the impression that the creative team was tight compared to other productions or at least this is the impression they are selling


is this the case? feels true.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judda fett on 10 February, 2013, 11:53:18 PM
Langley Kirkwood aka Judge Lex is in Red Waters on Ch 5 now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 February, 2013, 12:51:08 AM
Wow. Looks like a B-movie from the 70's.

He'll also be in The Bible next month as King David. Blink several times and you'll miss him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hThfoBzWxw
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 February, 2013, 01:02:59 AM
"Wait? Are you kidding me? Did you just say "wait"?

Goliath. The Goliath. Finally gets on the wrong end of a sling, and what he says is "wait.""
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Little_Tengu on 11 February, 2013, 02:05:58 AM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 07 February, 2013, 09:11:16 PM
Indeed it is.

TV series? Cartoon? No, i want a proper cinema sequel with the same cast and crew, and i want it now! ( i know... i know... but a boy can dream)

I have little faith that a live action Dredd tv series would do well, mostly because I'm sure that network execs wouldn't "get it" or say that it "isn't right for their network".

I don't have much confidence about a Dredd cartoon series either. I know that "Adult" cartoons are all the rage these days, but who would air it? Certainly not Adult Swim because they've got the distinguished taste of a brain dead chimp and only cater to the stoner crowd ever since Tim & Eric hit the air.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 11 February, 2013, 09:27:28 AM
Given that the Hellboy cartoon DVDs got canned after the first two—despite the character at the time having already had a reasonably successful movie outing—I can't imagine Dredd doing terribly well in that field. On TV... it could work, but again you'd need enough Americans on-side to fund it, and I just can't see something like that happening either.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 February, 2013, 10:14:27 PM
Quote from: SKD on 10 February, 2013, 11:36:21 AM
Great find JOE SOAP, love the shot of Dredd riding past the school bus with the kids faces at the window.

Stew.

A little nod to Dirty Harry maybe?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 February, 2013, 09:41:39 AM
Garth Franklin of Dark Horizons website post his new feature; Best Films of 2012

On number 29;

29: Though "Dredd" was shot before and released after the very similar "The Raid," I saw it first and it is more up my alley with its hallucinogenic drug and violence-infused visuals. There's also actual character work, a fun villain, an interesting building of tension as the ammo begins to run dry, an enjoyable dark humor, and legitimate use of slow-motion which renders various scenes beautifully artistic. One of my favorite guilty pleasures of the year.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 February, 2013, 09:57:37 AM
I was with him up til this bit:

QuoteOne of my favorite guilty pleasures of the year.

Guilty pleasure? Fuck off.

Quotean interesting building of tension as the ammo begins to run dry

This was something that ever so slightly irked me on my last viewing of Dredd - as he enters the slo mo lab, he guns down two armed guards but fails to take their weapons even though he is already running low on ammunition, which minutes later almost costs him his life. In fact he only actually bothers getting more ammo when he can source ammo for his own gun, which is a little weird.

Hardly story-breaking - and does make for the ace 'hi ex' scene, but still.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 12 February, 2013, 01:36:16 PM
QuoteThis was something that ever so slightly irked me on my last viewing of Dredd - as he enters the slo mo lab, he guns down two armed guards but fails to take their weapons even though he is already running low on ammunition, which minutes later almost costs him his life. In fact he only actually bothers getting more ammo when he can source ammo for his own gun, which is a little weird.
Perhaps it can be justified thusly: The technology for 'user-identification-based booby-traps' is available to Judges,- why wouldn't a version of the same technology find it's way to the street gangs?
Obviously not every gang and every weapon,- but just occuring often enough to make it an inherent element of Judge-training that the truly prudent Judge always avoids using unknown weaponry as a matter of life-preserving policy?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 February, 2013, 01:53:28 PM
QuotePerhaps it can be justified thusly: The technology for 'user-identification-based booby-traps' is available to Judges,- why wouldn't a version of the same technology find it's way to the street gangs?
Obviously not every gang and every weapon,- but just occuring often enough to make it an inherent element of Judge-training that the truly prudent Judge always avoids using unknown weaponry as a matter of life-preserving policy?

Nah. That's a huge stretch, and regardless it would have been worth the risk in a life-or-death scenario. And besides, judging by Kay's reaction, the lawgiver booby-trap isn't even common knowledge among (fairly high-ranking) career criminals to begin with (presumably because judges are so scarce and thinly-stretched in the movie version as evidenced earlier in the film - "You know how often we get a judge up in Peach Trees?").
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 12 February, 2013, 02:40:04 PM
I assume he never went for one of their guns because he was still surveying his surroundings for possible threats. Note how he never once lowers his Lawgiver. If a perp pops out from behind one of those vats, he has to be ready to fire. He'd be taken off guard if he was stooping down to pick up a rifle, then examine it to see if it's ready for use. Also, the scenario was similar to that of when he killed the other judge: he had back up coming any second around the corner. Dredd became aware almost straight away that the other two judges were behind him and had entered the room where he was, so going for the other weapons was out of the question.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2013, 02:48:55 PM


The more Justice Dept. ammo he uses, the more free vouchers he gets for the canteen.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 12 February, 2013, 02:49:30 PM
But why didn't he ransack the first judge for ammo after stoving his throat in? - I suppose he may have done off-camera, but he runs out almost immediately afterwards.

I'm guessing these lawgivers are individually-coded, ratehr than any-judge coded (this seems to vary over the deacdes in the comic) as he doesn't take that judge's gun, and nor does Anderson when she takes out the other judge.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 12 February, 2013, 02:52:40 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 12 February, 2013, 02:49:30 PM
But why didn't he ransack the first judge for ammo after stoving his throat in? - I suppose he may have done off-camera, but he runs out almost immediately afterwards.

I'm guessing these lawgivers are individually-coded, ratehr than any-judge coded (this seems to vary over the deacdes in the comic) as he doesn't take that judge's gun, and nor does Anderson when she takes out the other judge.
I think he didn't have the time to do that one. He's still on his feet when the other two arrive so it could only be a few seconds between Dredd leaving and then getting there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 12 February, 2013, 02:56:36 PM
I'm beging to wonder if, every time money falls into Alex Garlands bank account, a 2000AD fan somewhere starts fapping. How much have the over all efferts resulted in thus far in earnings (box office, DVD/ BD sales, prop sales etc)?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 12 February, 2013, 03:10:43 PM
Quote from: radiator on 12 February, 2013, 01:53:28 PM
Quote...The technology for 'user-identification-based booby-traps' is available to Judges,- why wouldn't a version of the same technology find it's way to the street gangs?
...

Nah. That's a huge stretch,
I suppose it is a bit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 February, 2013, 04:21:49 PM
Also what I've wondered about the whole DNA/Gun match thing; How does it detect through his gloves?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 12 February, 2013, 04:24:30 PM
ah that old chestnut. I think the best we've ever come up with is "special gloves"  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 February, 2013, 04:28:02 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 February, 2013, 04:21:49 PM
Also what I've wondered about the whole DNA/Gun match thing; How does it detect through his gloves?

Future Tech  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 February, 2013, 04:29:10 PM
Bloody no edit button now and again Future Tek  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2013, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 February, 2013, 04:21:49 PM
Also what I've wondered about the whole DNA/Gun match thing; How does it detect through his gloves?

Pheremones.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 12 February, 2013, 05:20:48 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 February, 2013, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 February, 2013, 04:21:49 PM
Also what I've wondered about the whole DNA/Gun match thing; How does it detect through his gloves?

Pheremones.

Minute drops of spittle expectorated when he speaks. 'I said "Hotshot"'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 12 February, 2013, 07:10:18 PM
A wizard.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 12 February, 2013, 07:31:37 PM
DREDD: The Abridged Script (http://www.the-editing-room.com/dredd.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 12 February, 2013, 08:37:07 PM
'Negatory. Robbing me of a kill is an offense punishable by death. Let's go find the guys who killed these guys I would have killed and kill them.'

Excellent. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 12 February, 2013, 08:42:58 PM
Also -

"JUDGE KARL (V.O.)

Stallone can chew my big fat Kiwi cock."

Gold.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 12 February, 2013, 08:59:04 PM
Oh lawks!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NSFTM on 12 February, 2013, 09:16:03 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 February, 2013, 04:21:49 PM
Also what I've wondered about the whole DNA/Gun match thing; How does it detect through his gloves?

Judges paint their hands too just look like gloves
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 12 February, 2013, 09:19:50 PM
"when I drop you out of a window to your death just like you tried to do with Sean Bean's son."

Arf!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 February, 2013, 10:11:15 PM
"Okay we need to conserve our ammo so try to limit the amount of shots to the face to around 10. I know it will be difficult, but you will just have to manage."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 13 February, 2013, 02:01:07 PM
QuoteJUDGE KARL and OLIVIA arrest WOOD but leave all THE OTHER surviving criminals behind who just wait patiently to be arrested LATER I guess.

You know, this is an interesting point - after the drug den shootout Anderson contacted control, to get a meat wagon and H Wagon to take the dead and alive perps away.  They never turned up! 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 13 February, 2013, 02:21:42 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 13 February, 2013, 02:01:07 PM
QuoteJUDGE KARL and OLIVIA arrest WOOD but leave all THE OTHER surviving criminals behind who just wait patiently to be arrested LATER I guess.

You know, this is an interesting point - after the drug den shootout Anderson contacted control, to get a meat wagon and H Wagon to take the dead and alive perps away.  They never turned up!
Well they did, just at the end of the film. With the Crime stats given in the film, just how quick would the response be ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 13 February, 2013, 03:20:00 PM
I hadn't thought of that. It looks like they arrived the next day after Dredd had made a second request. It's one thing to respond to crime slowly but you'd think they'd respond to a judge a little quicker.

PLOT HOLE!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 13 February, 2013, 03:49:20 PM
Could've been block wars happening around different sectors which ate into the manpower!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 13 February, 2013, 06:28:05 PM
Karl was on twitter last night and said Dredd 2 was all up to the executives.He really had a blast of a time making Dredd and hopefully could reprise the role. :).I tweeted back telling him to still keep checking the 2000ad forum (read some where he visited this site now and again) and that we are all praying for the sequel to happen.If this has been posted elsewhere I apologise.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 13 February, 2013, 07:00:43 PM
We were very lucky to have him -he nailed Dredd 100%.

Just spitballing here but what was the last quality film that got a sequel off big DVD sales after a disappointing box office?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 February, 2013, 07:48:12 PM

Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 13 February, 2013, 07:00:43 PM
Just spitballing here but what was the last quality film that got a sequel off big DVD sales after a disappointing box office?


Depends what you'd call disappointing.

In Dredd's case, there aren't any equivalents.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 13 February, 2013, 07:54:42 PM
Quote from: Stan on 13 February, 2013, 03:20:00 PM
I hadn't thought of that. It looks like they arrived the next day after Dredd had made a second request. It's one thing to respond to crime slowly but you'd think they'd respond to a judge a little quicker.

PLOT HOLE!

Maybe the meat wagon/H wagon turned up but the block was locked down so they went to somewhere else they were needed?

What I want to know is what Dredd and Anderson were going to do with Kay if they made it out of Peach Trees, strap him across the back of a Lawmaster, cowboy stylee?  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 13 February, 2013, 11:02:21 PM
Or Robert Booth style. Handy in a shoot out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 14 February, 2013, 12:00:04 AM
Quote from: Stan on 13 February, 2013, 03:20:00 PM
I hadn't thought of that. It looks like they arrived the next day after Dredd had made a second request. It's one thing to respond to crime slowly but you'd think they'd respond to a judge a little quicker.

PLOT HOLE!
Was it not mentioned in the film that all Justice Department patrols get informed to stay clear of a block once it goes into lockdown or testing? They could have been informed Peach Trees got locked down and they stayed clear?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 14 February, 2013, 02:00:50 PM
QuoteKIDS WITH GUNS

But what about violent video games? And violent movies? Like this one?

JUDGE KARL

We should ban them because, as you know, human beings never had the urge to senselessly kill each other prior to the invention of violent movies and video games. All the murders, sex crimes and wars throughout human history can be traced back directly to Pulp Fiction and San Andreas. Now I'm going to let you kids off with a warning. STUN!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 February, 2013, 10:46:58 AM
This is me visiting some old friends yesterday..

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/Michaelvk/1f419f2cb950737cb3f3d55babf81478_zpsc762fca5.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 15 February, 2013, 12:03:12 PM
:thumbsup:

Makes me think: Guns don't kill people. Guns firing thousands of rounds a minute kill LOTS of people.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 15 February, 2013, 12:27:20 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 15 February, 2013, 10:46:58 AM
This is me visiting some old friends yesterday..
Just beautiful.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 15 February, 2013, 12:45:03 PM
Bit of trivia on these things.. The one I'm leaning on has the name Os du Randt stamped onto the top of the yoke, the other two have Bakkies Botha and Schalk Burger stamped onto them. Three famous South African rugby players.. Because Karl's a huge All Blacks fan.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cookyman on 15 February, 2013, 04:59:43 PM
All Dredds kills edited into one cool clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4SZcQSjjME (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4SZcQSjjME)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 February, 2013, 10:44:09 PM
Awesome. Notice how you can count Dredd's kills based on the direction he fires rather than the number of perps who drop. He doesn't shoot scenery (unless deliberately judging scenery).

And ace pic, Mickvk.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 16 February, 2013, 07:41:49 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 15 February, 2013, 10:46:58 AM
This is me visiting some old friends yesterday..

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/Michaelvk/1f419f2cb950737cb3f3d55babf81478_zpsc762fca5.jpg)
Lovely Pic MVK.
I haven't seen one of those fire hoses in the back ground for ages.



V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 16 February, 2013, 09:07:08 PM
Nice pic MVK and the facts about those bad ass shooters!  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 16 February, 2013, 09:12:05 PM
A conversation piece if nothing else. Awesome gunnery Michaelvk.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 16 February, 2013, 10:00:54 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 16 February, 2013, 07:41:49 PM

Lovely Pic MVK.
I haven't seen one of those fire hoses in the back ground for ages.



V

Interestingly, they have been removed from many workplaces because of the risk of legionella bacteria.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 16 February, 2013, 10:58:22 PM
Michaelvk? Is this not a photo of Richmond and his prop sale win's, then?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Muon on 17 February, 2013, 06:39:34 AM
Okay, I finally saw Dredd (I live in Tokyo and it just came out in Japan yesterday). I absolutely loved it. The cinematography was amazing and it was definitely the best use if 3D I've ever seen. Karl Urban was great and I thought Olivia Thirlby was even better. I've been looking forward to it since September and in a lot of ways the movie actually exceeded my expectations. What really struck me about it was how arty and downbeat it is for an action movie. I got a real sense of tragedy from it, particularly with Ma Ma's death and Anderson's execution of the woman's husband. Drawbacks to it were the middle part, which starts to drag a bit, and the scene where the corrupt judge starts gloating over Dredd for what seems about ten minutes. Very minor drawbacks, though.

I saw it with three friends: two American guys who only really know the Stallone version and an Irish guy who's a big 2000 AD fan. My Irish mate said it was "fucking great". One of my American mates thought it was okay for what it was but said he's much more into character-driven independent films. The other guy enjoyed it and said it reminded him in a good way of John Carpenter films from the 70s and 80s.

There were about 30 people in the cinema - all men. There were a couple of other non-Japanese guys in the audience, and they sounded Canadian judging by their accents. One of them had already seen the film and he was telling his friend how awesome it was before the film started. I was surprised that the audience was mostly Japanese guys. I was pretty sure before it started that most people would be British blokes in their 30s. I saw it on the early evening showing too so I guess there were more people in the later showing. I was pleasantly surprised by the turnout, but I still think it won't do a lot of business here based on the small number of cinemas it's showing at. Still, the fact remains that I saw an awesome movie and thoroughly enjoyed it. Will probably go to see it again.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 February, 2013, 08:01:42 AM
Quote from: RicheyJ on 17 February, 2013, 06:39:34 AMDrawbacks to it were the middle part, which starts to drag a bit, and the scene where the corrupt judge starts gloating over Dredd for what seems about ten minutes.

I thought it was a little odd that someone was slagging Lex's monologue but then I noticed we just hit page 666.

Not that I'm suggesting you work for Satan or anything. Thanks for the Japan update, Richey. I'd almost forgotten about the late release over there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 17 February, 2013, 09:14:48 AM
Quote from: RicheyJ on 17 February, 2013, 06:39:34 AM
There were about 30 people in the cinema - all men ... I was surprised that the audience was mostly Japanese guys. I was pretty sure before it started that most people would be British blokes in their 30s. I saw it on the early evening showing too so I guess there were more people in the later showing. I was pleasantly surprised by the turnout, but I still think it won't do a lot of business here based on the small number of cinemas it's showing at. Still, the fact remains that I saw an awesome movie and thoroughly enjoyed it. Will probably go to see it again.

Thanks for the update, Richey. Glad you enjoyed the film, and if you could keep us abreast of public opinion and box office performance where you are it would be very much appreciated. Has the film been widely reviewed there, and what's the critical consensus?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Muon on 17 February, 2013, 09:49:32 AM
Quote from: Stan on 17 February, 2013, 08:01:42 AM

I thought it was a little odd that someone was slagging Lex's monologue but then I noticed we just hit page 666.


I guess it was not so much the monologue, as I understand it had a really important function in establishing how much of a reputation Dredd has... I guess it was more how the scene worked that I had a slight issue with. It kind of confused me because I didn't understand why Dredd said "wait." I wasn't sure if we're meant to think he can see Anderson behind Lex or something. It was only a small thing, though, and maybe I was picking holes a bit trying to be balanced when what was really going through my mind straight after seeing the film was was "OMG DREDD IS TEH AMSUM!!!1!!"  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Muon on 17 February, 2013, 10:09:28 AM
Quote from: sauchie on 17 February, 2013, 09:14:48 AM
Thanks for the update, Richey. Glad you enjoyed the film, and if you could keep us abreast of public opinion and box office performance where you are it would be very much appreciated. Has the film been widely reviewed there, and what's the critical consensus?

Thanks. From what I've seen, it hasn't been widely reviewed or publicized. I checked the websites of some of the major Japanese newspapers and couldn't find anything Dredd related. The good news is that what I've found suggests a really positive reaction. I found a review on Yahoo blogs Japan that gave the film 5 stars (I'm presuming out of 5). The reviewer was really taken with the 3D and liked how Dredd seems to be a departure from the usual fake, CGI-driven Hollywood blockbusters to a grittier approach. I also found a website that seems like a Japanese version of Rotten Tomatoes, where normal movie fans post reviews (I'm guessing they aren't professional movie critics anyway), and the ones I read seemed really positive too. Interestingly, the Japanese comments and reviews I've read suggest they get the subtleties of Dredd a lot more than people from the US or UK for people who are clearly not familiar with the source material. Some comments said the movie made them think. They also seemed to respond to the technical achievements of the film a bit more. Amusingly, one of the negative comments was by someone who was expecting a kind of sequel to the Stallone version and came away disappointed.  :lol: Anyway, it looks like the movie has been relatively well-received here so far. Nice!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 February, 2013, 08:04:05 PM
It's about the other one, but I wonder if this poster inspired Rob Williams for 'Dredd's Daystick'?

(http://www.filmonpaper.com/site/media/2012/12/JudgeDredd_unusedartwork_BrianBysouth.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 February, 2013, 08:43:53 PM


(http://imageshack.us/a/img843/2596/turnere.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 19 February, 2013, 01:57:19 AM
Apologies if this has already been posted elsewhere on the forum, but I thought others would appreciate this competition-winning short from Ain't It Cool News (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/60604 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/60604)):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZg-h3X7K50 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZg-h3X7K50)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 19 February, 2013, 09:18:23 AM
genius
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: captain_skank on 19 February, 2013, 09:56:48 AM
Very nice - could've done with him at the flix on saturday :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 19 February, 2013, 05:57:17 PM
Very amusing, nicely done. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 19 February, 2013, 07:23:38 PM
Feel daft that its taken me this long to realise - those early external shots we all saw online were the inside set of Peach Trees.... :-[

I always thought the internal shots of Dredd and Anderson in the lower floor atrium were shot on the Green Screen set used for the various levels

...but no they were all shot outside at an external location.
Doh !

...so even more kudos for the photography, lighting and genius of the film crew.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 19 February, 2013, 07:42:40 PM
This guy should get an award for genius. We've all been in that situation. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 February, 2013, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 19 February, 2013, 07:23:38 PM
Feel daft that its taken me this long to realise - those early external shots we all saw online were the inside set of Peach Trees.... :-[

I always thought the internal shots of Dredd and Anderson in the lower floor atrium were shot on the Green Screen set used for the various levels

...but no they were all shot outside at an external location.
Doh !

...so even more kudos for the photography, lighting and genius of the film crew.

It's one of the scenes I really liked, as they first enter PT. Shooting by day...then a night shot for the 'interior'. YT has a bunch of stuff on how the brilliant fx team built up the inside of PT, I didn't post it as it seems to be from the DVD...and has no doubt been posted here loads already.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 19 February, 2013, 08:55:19 PM

(http://imageshack.us/a/img843/2596/turnere.png)

Has this been borrowed from the 'Is Dredd Gay?' thread?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 20 February, 2013, 10:44:50 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 19 February, 2013, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 19 February, 2013, 07:23:38 PM
Feel daft that its taken me this long to realise - those early external shots we all saw online were the inside set of Peach Trees.... :-[

I always thought the internal shots of Dredd and Anderson in the lower floor atrium were shot on the Green Screen set used for the various levels

...but no they were all shot outside at an external location.
Doh !

...so even more kudos for the photography, lighting and genius of the film crew.

It's one of the scenes I really liked, as they first enter PT. Shooting by day...then a night shot for the 'interior'. YT has a bunch of stuff on how the brilliant fx team built up the inside of PT, I didn't post it as it seems to be from the DVD...and has no doubt been posted here loads already.

Yeah... that fooled me as well. 

I thought the Peach Trees interior/plaza/atrium/whatever was shot on a massive soundstage/set, and looked a bit 'unreal', so when Alex Garland challenged me to find a fault with the film (because up to that point I had been incredibly positive) I said that was the only flaw I could see.  He corrected me, by pointing out it was shot at a very specific real location in SA, as you say, both by day and by night.  D'oh! 

So my only critiscism was shot down in flames, and also exploded my mind about what I perceive and what actual IS.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 February, 2013, 10:46:54 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 20 February, 2013, 10:44:50 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 19 February, 2013, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 19 February, 2013, 07:23:38 PM
Feel daft that its taken me this long to realise - those early external shots we all saw online were the inside set of Peach Trees.... :-[

I always thought the internal shots of Dredd and Anderson in the lower floor atrium were shot on the Green Screen set used for the various levels

...but no they were all shot outside at an external location.
Doh !

...so even more kudos for the photography, lighting and genius of the film crew.

It's one of the scenes I really liked, as they first enter PT. Shooting by day...then a night shot for the 'interior'. YT has a bunch of stuff on how the brilliant fx team built up the inside of PT, I didn't post it as it seems to be from the DVD...and has no doubt been posted here loads already.

Yeah... that fooled me as well. 

I thought the Peach Trees interior/plaza/atrium/whatever was shot on a massive soundstage/set, and looked a bit 'unreal', so when Alex Garland challenged me to find a fault with the film (because up to that point I had been incredibly positive) I said that was the only flaw I could see.  He corrected me, by pointing out it was shot at a very specific real location in SA, as you say, both by day and by night.  D'oh! 

So my only critiscism was shot down in flames, and also exploded my mind about what I perceive and what actual IS.

Did MichealVK post the photo of that few months ago??
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 20 February, 2013, 12:00:18 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 20 February, 2013, 10:44:50 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 19 February, 2013, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 19 February, 2013, 07:23:38 PM
Feel daft that its taken me this long to realise - those early external shots we all saw online were the inside set of Peach Trees.... :-[

I always thought the internal shots of Dredd and Anderson in the lower floor atrium were shot on the Green Screen set used for the various levels

...but no they were all shot outside at an external location.
Doh !

...so even more kudos for the photography, lighting and genius of the film crew.

It's one of the scenes I really liked, as they first enter PT. Shooting by day...then a night shot for the 'interior'. YT has a bunch of stuff on how the brilliant fx team built up the inside of PT, I didn't post it as it seems to be from the DVD...and has no doubt been posted here loads already.

Yeah... that fooled me as well. 

I thought the Peach Trees interior/plaza/atrium/whatever was shot on a massive soundstage/set, and looked a bit 'unreal', so when Alex Garland challenged me to find a fault with the film (because up to that point I had been incredibly positive) I said that was the only flaw I could see.  He corrected me, by pointing out it was shot at a very specific real location in SA, as you say, both by day and by night.  D'oh! 

So my only critiscism was shot down in flames, and also exploded my mind about what I perceive and what actual IS.

I could be wrong but it looked to me like the interior ground floor of PT was also the ext of PT as he walks out, but in daylight and redressed. Same with the exterior front of THOJ. Liked they walked in to the very space each time we see them moving 'between' those spaces. If I'm right they walk in and out of the very same square, only in each case it is redressed, in daylight, and or with matte and animation added. Think of the economy of that!...and it looked great. BTW...Dredd's non-reaction to  the tramp being squashed by the blast doors was, for me, hilarious. A key moment for me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 February, 2013, 02:28:15 PM

Quote from: BOODA on 20 February, 2013, 12:00:18 PM
I could be wrong but it looked to me like the interior ground floor of PT was also the ext of PT as he walks out, but in daylight and redressed.


It was.


Quote from: BOODA on 20 February, 2013, 12:00:18 PM
Same with the exterior front of THOJ.


They were the gates of Cape Town Stadium.

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4046/4589257064_a387307ac4_z.jpg)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 20 February, 2013, 02:35:14 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 February, 2013, 02:28:15 PM

Quote from: BOODA on 20 February, 2013, 12:00:18 PM
I could be wrong but it looked to me like the interior ground floor of PT was also the ext of PT as he walks out, but in daylight and redressed.


It was.


Quote from: BOODA on 20 February, 2013, 12:00:18 PM
Same with the exterior front of THOJ.


They were the gates of Cape Town Stadium.

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4046/4589257064_a387307ac4_z.jpg)

Cool, thanks...hmm. That's odd, I had a slight interest in sport there for a second. Gone now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 21 February, 2013, 12:47:43 AM
It seems Judge Dredd is on 5 USA next Tuesday. Hoozah!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 21 February, 2013, 08:02:11 AM
Quote from: Emp on 09 February, 2013, 01:52:14 AM
Being drunk and bored i decided to trawl through Youtube for reviews of Dredd and generally all are good apat from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCEg4SsHVkE , now everyone is entitled to an opinion but a least one of these people has know idea of the idea of Dredd.......that sais i am interested in the idea of "the big lie".....instead of the DJ'S is any future movie going to be based on "a question of judgement"?

The guy in the middle with glasses... Every office has one of those. Just talking crap. For example saying that the "hero" never gets hit...

Love the talk the other guy and lady have. They really seem to get it. Her saying that Dredd doesn't need a character arc, since that's more interesting for the side characters, is spot on what I think.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 21 February, 2013, 09:06:21 AM
just found a cool  dredd3d database online guns etc  DREDD 3d WIKI
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http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Dredd_%282012%29
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mididoctors on 21 February, 2013, 01:36:35 PM
Quote from: Apestrife on 21 February, 2013, 08:02:11 AM
Quote from: Emp on 09 February, 2013, 01:52:14 AM
Being drunk and bored i decided to trawl through Youtube for reviews of Dredd and generally all are good apat from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCEg4SsHVkE , now everyone is entitled to an opinion but a least one of these people has know idea of the idea of Dredd.......that sais i am interested in the idea of "the big lie".....instead of the DJ'S is any future movie going to be based on "a question of judgement"?

The guy in the middle with glasses... Every office has one of those. Just talking crap. For example saying that the "hero" never gets hit...

Love the talk the other guy and lady have. They really seem to get it. Her saying that Dredd doesn't need a character arc, since that's more interesting for the side characters, is spot on what I think.

I think DREDDS character development in the comic only makes sense in how he deviates slowly from the stern lawman. 2000ad spent yrs refining him as a plot anchor as opposed to a character...most comic characters are fixed, DREDD in particular. everything happens around him

what made a question of judgement so good was the sudden change in his character was played against the investigation of the formative forces for his original character. In that short story were the essential elements of origins and democracy story arcs...we saw back and forwards in time.

As far as the movie was concerned the inability for viewers not versed in DREDD lore to "not get it" could be labeled as a flaw but most of us see it as a good thing..2000ad fanbois(gals) are not the majority but then who was the film made for? People will get DREDD in time

the ending is fantastic..I laughed when he said "drug bust" and the CJ didn't seem overly bothered either. It was brilliantly played. As a new viewer this may have seemed an odd coda but really if the reviewers can't put the pieces together?

Effectively the whole drama has the rug pulled out from underneath at the end  as thou "it ain't no thing". There was little room for character development in DREDD (maybe a little in relation to how he saw anderson) because the whole day out for him was as banal as brushing his teeth. The conversation between the CJ and DREDD explains what DREDD is about. His character and meaning to the mega city verse is revealed at the end... as is Anderson's bewildered and admiring gaze at DREDD as he tends her wound in the elevator... Its as thou she looks at him thinking a million thoughts including  "you do this shit everyday!"

Where as this was Anderson's baptism of fire and she does change and as does DREDD'S opinion of her. I thought they told this story well with numerous little touches. Besides the obvious "you don't look ready" changing to "you look ready" the moment that stands out to me is when the pair are advancing in Ma Ma's den at the end in a leapfrog overwatch fashion and DREDD taps anderson on the shoulder in a way that conveys a sense of comradeship and trust beyond its use as a tactical signal.....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 22 February, 2013, 12:10:26 AM
Just been thinking about the not getting a sequel thing again(I know, I here you all groaning) but it seems to me that the film has definitely changed peoples perception of Dredd especially now the blu ray has come out and has sold well.I have been seeing on various web site's, mags and even friends who was not interested in the slightest about it now wanting a sequel and wished they had got there arses into the cinema to see it in all its 3D glory(one such tit who shall remain nameless even went so far as to tell people not to waste there money on the dvd only to watch it under duress from his partner and is now actively campaigning on web sites for others to see it.he thinks its the best action movie he's seen in years.TWAT). It must be close to recouping its budget back and with all the rave reviews and better awareness , surely a sequel is not too much of a gamble now as I'm sure more people would actually go to see one.Any thoughts or figures as to what its actually made anyone ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 February, 2013, 12:33:48 AM
Quote from: mididoctors on 21 February, 2013, 01:36:35 PM
As far as the movie was concerned the inability for viewers not versed in DREDD lore to "not get it" could be labeled as a flaw but most of us see it as a good thing..2000ad fanbois(gals) are not the majority but then who was the film made for? People will get DREDD in time.


I think this is a bit of a myth, to be honest, and generally comes across as fan-snobbishness towards the public at large.

If you read the written reviews on international Amazon sites, those where the film is available, the majority of the hundreds of reviews, which is a very high count for a film that flopped, are 4 stars and over, plus a 78%/765% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, 7.1 on IMDB and total universal acclaim from audience/viewers on Metacritic.

By the looks of it, the average audience didn't have a hard time understanding the character at all, just like they'd no problem with Snake Plisken, Dirty Harry, the Man with No Name and RoboCop. The problem was getting them to bother to watch the film in the first place to see if they'd like it.






Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 22 February, 2013, 12:39:37 AM
Apropo of nothing:
Dredd gets shot through a wall, with an armour-piercing round, in the back; his magic-healing fleshy-foamy stuff with the staples is only applied to his exit-wound, so shouldn't he have another, nastier wound in his back with bits of tile and plaster-dust in it?

Apologies if this has been brought up before.

(also, while I was typing this Joe Soap made a comment that I 100% agree with).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 February, 2013, 12:46:50 AM


The exit-wound is where most of the damage is done. Also time-saving editing cut round him sealing up the hole in his back with his tube of riot-foam. He did it during the close-up on his face, honest.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 22 February, 2013, 01:38:53 AM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 22 February, 2013, 12:10:26 AM
Just been thinking about the not getting a sequel thing again(I know, I here you all groaning) but it seems to me that the film has definitely changed peoples perception of Dredd especially now the blu ray has come out and has sold well.I have been seeing on various web site's, mags and even friends who was not interested in the slightest about it now wanting a sequel and wished they had got there arses into the cinema to see it in all its 3D glory(one such tit who shall remain nameless even went so far as to tell people not to waste there money on the dvd only to watch it under duress from his partner and is now actively campaigning on web sites for others to see it.he thinks its the best action movie he's seen in years.TWAT). It must be close to recouping its budget back and with all the rave reviews and better awareness , surely a sequel is not too much of a gamble now as I'm sure more people would actually go to see one.Any thoughts or figures as to what its actually made anyone ?

It was pretty maddening to read aintitcool's most recent Dredd related forum where almost everyone in there offered regret for not going to see it. One poster said buying the Blu-Ray was the best blind buy he'd ever done. Such a fucking shame.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 22 February, 2013, 01:42:36 AM
Yeah, it's not always best for the bullet to leave its new home but I did wonder about all the crap that must've lodged in the entry wound. He should probably get that seen to at some point.

And seeing as he was pretty spritely for a man who'd just taken a bullet through two sheets of armour he could probably walk back to the Hall of Justice himself.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 February, 2013, 01:43:38 AM
I weep for my beloved Dredd!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HdE on 22 February, 2013, 02:00:22 AM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 22 February, 2013, 12:10:26 AM
(one such tit who shall remain nameless even went so far as to tell people not to waste there money on the dvd only to watch it under duress from his partner and is now actively campaigning on web sites for others to see it.he thinks its the best action movie he's seen in years.TWAT).

Oh, I like this!

It really bemuses me, this whole knee-jerk 'I haven't seen it yet, and I don't want to see it, and it's going to be crap because I've decided it will be' attitude.

Me and my new lassie went out to meet some pals tonight, and they got talking about Dredd. Some of these guys all work in the same factory, and it turns out they've all bought the DVD / Blu-ray now. They tell a similar story. To quote one of them " Man oh man... I never thought Judge Dredd was meant to be that hardcore! Are the comics like that?"

It was the best feeling in the world to be able to tell them: If you liked the movie, the comics will do it for you too.

For the record, I do NOT believe that Dredd will be the last time we see a Judge Dredd movie on the big screen. Wouldn't want to chance a guess at when we'll see another, but I can see it happening some time. Dredd is credible now, and deservedly so. I think the movie will be one that people are watching and talking about in ten years' time. So I'd expect someone will want to revisit the property sometime.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 22 February, 2013, 02:21:16 AM
Did anyone see the Culture Show a few nights ago? Mark Kermode was raving about a certain film and he made a reference to Dredd. Grrr.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006t6c5
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mididoctors on 22 February, 2013, 07:03:01 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 22 February, 2013, 12:33:48 AM
Quote from: mididoctors on 21 February, 2013, 01:36:35 PM
As far as the movie was concerned the inability for viewers not versed in DREDD lore to "not get it" could be labeled as a flaw but most of us see it as a good thing..2000ad fanbois(gals) are not the majority but then who was the film made for? People will get DREDD in time.


I think this is a bit of a myth, to be honest, and generally comes across as fan-snobbishness towards the public at large.

If you read the written reviews on international Amazon sites, those where the film is available, the majority of the hundreds of reviews, which is a very high count for a film that flopped, are 4 stars and over, plus a 78%/765% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, 7.1 on IMDB and total universal acclaim from audience/viewers on Metacritic.

By the looks of it, the average audience didn't have a hard time understanding the character at all, just like they'd no problem with Snake Plisken, Dirty Harry, the Man with No Name and RoboCop. The problem was getting them to bother to watch the film in the first place to see if they'd like it.

I guess so... I suppose this attitude of ours is really a response to a few reviewers in the minority who didn't get it or choose not to.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 22 February, 2013, 12:03:20 PM
i see vue are listing 20 movies to choose from the best  sadly DREDD wasnt included   reason being

Vue Cinemas Hi Junox. the list is based on the twenty films which performed best at Vue during 2012. Unfortunately Dredd didn't quite make it into that list but we agree that it was brilliant!
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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 22 February, 2013, 03:25:24 PM
Quote from: junox on 22 February, 2013, 12:03:20 PM
i see vue are listing 20 movies to choose from the best  sadly DREDD wasnt included   reason being

Vue Cinemas Hi Junox. the list is based on the twenty films which performed best at Vue during 2012. Unfortunately Dredd didn't quite make it into that list but we agree that it was brilliant!
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Well.... ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sharkeyfinn on 22 February, 2013, 07:36:01 PM
hi guys,im sorry to have to ask this,but there are 600 odd posts and i really cant face slogging through them all to find my answer,so sorry for those of you that get a little bit hissy at repeated questions,but has the sequel definately been abandoned?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 22 February, 2013, 07:48:58 PM
Quote from: sharkeyfinn on 22 February, 2013, 07:36:01 PM
but has the sequel definately been abandoned?

YES.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judge macbrayne on 22 February, 2013, 08:04:54 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 February, 2013, 01:43:38 AM
I weep for my beloved Dredd!
Com owen bigman tell yir da whit u greetin fur :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 23 February, 2013, 12:02:22 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 22 February, 2013, 07:48:58 PM
Quote from: sharkeyfinn on 22 February, 2013, 07:36:01 PM
but has the sequel definately been abandoned?

YES.

Cheers

Jim




Is it just my brain that wont acknowledge or accept this info cause it still reads NO there is still hope for a sequel. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 23 February, 2013, 01:24:02 PM
I think Jim needed to be more emphatic.
Leaving his comment open to interpretation like that, has only fueled the rumours of a sequel.

Which is in the can already, apparently.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 24 February, 2013, 10:47:31 AM
hi guys ,
shame about there not being a sequel  JIM  ... been trawling the internet this  morn and found a cool site with loads of  info  pictures about Dredd 3d 

DIGI TITLES  has videos , photo's,graphic art, storyboards + facts and gossip
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http://www.digititles.com/movies/dredd-3d-2012

Anyways looking forward to Minty   

BRING ON THE DREDD
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sharkeyfinn on 24 February, 2013, 03:27:21 PM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 23 February, 2013, 12:02:22 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 22 February, 2013, 07:48:58 PM
Quote from: sharkeyfinn on 22 February, 2013, 07:36:01 PM
but has the sequel definately been abandoned?

YES.

Cheers

Jim




Is it just my brain that wont acknowledge or accept this info cause it still reads NO there is still hope for a sequel. :lol:
as i said,apologies to those that get hissy about repeated questions lol ;-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 25 February, 2013, 08:22:58 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 February, 2013, 02:28:15 PM

Quote from: BOODA on 20 February, 2013, 12:00:18 PM
I could be wrong but it looked to me like the interior ground floor of PT was also the ext of PT as he walks out, but in daylight and redressed.


It was.



No it's not..

Peach Trees atrium is the plaza outside the Artscape theatre. The exterior of Peach trees is the entrance to the Cape Town municipality (incidentally where they minivan rolls). They're about a block apart..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 25 February, 2013, 08:26:19 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 20 February, 2013, 10:46:54 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 20 February, 2013, 10:44:50 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 19 February, 2013, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 19 February, 2013, 07:23:38 PM
Feel daft that its taken me this long to realise - those early external shots we all saw online were the inside set of Peach Trees.... :-[

I always thought the internal shots of Dredd and Anderson in the lower floor atrium were shot on the Green Screen set used for the various levels

...but no they were all shot outside at an external location.
Doh !

...so even more kudos for the photography, lighting and genius of the film crew.

It's one of the scenes I really liked, as they first enter PT. Shooting by day...then a night shot for the 'interior'. YT has a bunch of stuff on how the brilliant fx team built up the inside of PT, I didn't post it as it seems to be from the DVD...and has no doubt been posted here loads already.

Yeah... that fooled me as well. 

I thought the Peach Trees interior/plaza/atrium/whatever was shot on a massive soundstage/set, and looked a bit 'unreal', so when Alex Garland challenged me to find a fault with the film (because up to that point I had been incredibly positive) I said that was the only flaw I could see.  He corrected me, by pointing out it was shot at a very specific real location in SA, as you say, both by day and by night.  D'oh! 

So my only critiscism was shot down in flames, and also exploded my mind about what I perceive and what actual IS.

Did MichealVK post the photo of that few months ago??

I did, but I can repost the locations tomorrow, if anyone's interested..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 26 February, 2013, 08:49:04 AM
Someone posted on the Minty FB page that the Dredd BR is still in the top ten... so still seems to be plugging away on home video.

http://www.officialcharts.com/blu-ray-chart/ (http://www.officialcharts.com/blu-ray-chart/)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 February, 2013, 09:22:56 AM

Awesome!

Someone post it on Dredd IMDB;

It's still renting like crazy at my store as well. I've yet to hear anyone say they didn't enjoy it, and many return it with the lament "I wish I'd seen this in the theater."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 26 February, 2013, 03:20:50 PM
Its crazy how many people that watched it for the first time on DVD have said there gutted
they didnt see it at the cinema, My brothers a huge john carpenter fan and he watched it for
the first time on sunday and said its like a carpenter movie and the best action movie he`d seen in over twenty years  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 26 February, 2013, 08:29:27 PM
At this point in time I find it very hard to feel any genuine sympathy for them, personally.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 27 February, 2013, 01:18:38 AM
But I do feel sympathy for me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 February, 2013, 02:07:18 AM


Charming, if a little mad:


Father and Son at the Movies-Dredd 3D Movie Review (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqOX-NAg2co)



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 27 February, 2013, 11:33:36 AM
Something I wondered about, if anyone has any insights...(apologies if this has been covered to death) but when Anderson scans Dredd she says Dredd is '...almost.' and the CJ cuts her off with ''that's enough Anderson' or some such. 'Almost' what I wondered?... and why cut her off unless it's something Dredd shouldn't know?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 February, 2013, 11:35:26 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 27 February, 2013, 11:33:36 AM
Something I wondered about, if anyone has any insights...(apologies if this has been covered to death) but when Anderson scans Dredd she says Dredd is '...almost.' and the CJ cuts her off with ''that's enough Anderson' or some such. 'Almost' what I wondered?... and why cut her off unless it's something Dredd shouldn't know?


Da Big Lie...


(http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/wp-content/Fargo-Old.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 27 February, 2013, 11:46:10 AM
...a hint at the big lie...huh. Thanks....that is one HELL of a lie!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 27 February, 2013, 01:43:02 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 26 February, 2013, 09:22:56 AM
many return it with the lament "I wish I'd seen this in the theater." [/b]

Quote from: hazy efc on 26 February, 2013, 03:20:50 PM
Its crazy how many people that watched it for the first time on DVD have said there gutted
they didnt see it at the cinema

There was many of us that wanted to see it on the big screen but it was [notoriously] like rocking horse shit to find a cinema showing a 2D print, so no option other than to wait for the home release.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 27 February, 2013, 03:38:37 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 February, 2013, 02:07:18 AM
Charming, if a little mad:
Father and Son at the Movies-Dredd 3D Movie Review (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqOX-NAg2co)
Quite enchanting; I like Father & Son.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 27 February, 2013, 03:47:51 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 27 February, 2013, 03:38:37 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 February, 2013, 02:07:18 AM
Charming, if a little mad:
Father and Son at the Movies-Dredd 3D Movie Review (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqOX-NAg2co)
Quite enchanting; I like Father & Son.

I loved that dadso was so into it!...Somebody should point him to the bookshelf.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 27 February, 2013, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: hazy efc on 26 February, 2013, 03:20:50 PM
Its crazy how many people that watched it for the first time on DVD have said there gutted
they didnt see it at the cinema, My brothers a huge john carpenter fan and he watched it for
the first time on sunday and said its like a carpenter movie and the best action movie he`d seen in over twenty years  :thumbsup:

I wonder if a limited cinema re-release would ever be on the cards?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 27 February, 2013, 04:45:23 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 27 February, 2013, 11:33:36 AM
Something I wondered about, if anyone has any insights...(apologies if this has been covered to death) but when Anderson scans Dredd she says Dredd is '...almost.' and the CJ cuts her off with ''that's enough Anderson' or some such. 'Almost' what I wondered?... and why cut her off unless it's something Dredd shouldn't know?

There may or may not have been something interesting to learn but I doubt Chiefy was thinking about anything beyond making a point concerning Anderson's powers. It would've been unethical to let her carry on further.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 27 February, 2013, 04:47:29 PM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 27 February, 2013, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: hazy efc on 26 February, 2013, 03:20:50 PM
Its crazy how many people that watched it for the first time on DVD have said there gutted
they didnt see it at the cinema, My brothers a huge john carpenter fan and he watched it for
the first time on sunday and said its like a carpenter movie and the best action movie he`d seen in over twenty years  :thumbsup:

I wonder if a limited cinema re-release would ever be on the cards?
Seeing as our local Cineworld will often re-show such claptrap as Mulan Rouge and Titanic (though, to be fair, last year I did get to see Plague of the Zombies, Quatermass and the Pit, jaws AND Gremlins on the big screen at CW. Not all bad then.) I think it's a possibility.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 27 February, 2013, 05:08:23 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 27 February, 2013, 04:47:29 PM
Seeing as our local Cineworld will often re-show such claptrap as Mulan Rouge and Titanic (though, to be fair, last year I did get to see Plague of the Zombies, Quatermass and the Pit, jaws AND Gremlins on the big screen at CW. Not all bad then.) I think it's a possibility.

Isn't Mulan Rouge the hentai version of the Disney cartoon?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 27 February, 2013, 05:17:14 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 27 February, 2013, 05:08:23 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 27 February, 2013, 04:47:29 PM
Seeing as our local Cineworld will often re-show such claptrap as Mulan Rouge and Titanic (though, to be fair, last year I did get to see Plague of the Zombies, Quatermass and the Pit, jaws AND Gremlins on the big screen at CW. Not all bad then.) I think it's a possibility.

Isn't Mulan Rouge the hentai version of the Disney cartoon?
You make it sound like it might actualy be good. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 February, 2013, 07:04:26 PM
Quote from: Stan on 27 February, 2013, 04:45:23 PM
There may or may not have been something interesting to learn but I doubt Chiefy was thinking about anything beyond making a point concerning Anderson's powers.

Chiefy wasn't but Dredd was.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 27 February, 2013, 08:19:01 PM
Quote from: Stan on 27 February, 2013, 04:45:23 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 27 February, 2013, 11:33:36 AM
Something I wondered about, if anyone has any insights...(apologies if this has been covered to death) but when Anderson scans Dredd she says Dredd is '...almost.' and the CJ cuts her off with ''that's enough Anderson' or some such. 'Almost' what I wondered?... and why cut her off unless it's something Dredd shouldn't know?

There may or may not have been something interesting to learn but I doubt Chiefy was thinking about anything beyond making a point concerning Anderson's powers. It would've been unethical to let her carry on further.

That's true, it doesn't need to mean anything.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 27 February, 2013, 08:40:42 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 27 February, 2013, 08:19:01 PM
Quote from: Stan on 27 February, 2013, 04:45:23 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 27 February, 2013, 11:33:36 AM
Something I wondered about, if anyone has any insights...(apologies if this has been covered to death) but when Anderson scans Dredd she says Dredd is '...almost.' and the CJ cuts her off with ''that's enough Anderson' or some such. 'Almost' what I wondered?... and why cut her off unless it's something Dredd shouldn't know?

There may or may not have been something interesting to learn but I doubt Chiefy was thinking about anything beyond making a point concerning Anderson's powers. It would've been unethical to let her carry on further.

That's true, it doesn't need to mean anything.
My take was that this whole exchange was a kind of dramatic device to frame Dredd for the audience: like the script is deliberately and self-conciously making Dredd fascinating and enigmatic and mythical by actively refusing explain him to an audience. I reckon it's quite brilliant. This is the Dredd from the comics explained in one line: yes, there's plenty going on under that helmet- but we're not getting into his 'back-story' or 'motivation'; he's not that kind of hero, this is not that kind of story...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 27 February, 2013, 08:54:55 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 27 February, 2013, 08:40:42 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 27 February, 2013, 08:19:01 PM
Quote from: Stan on 27 February, 2013, 04:45:23 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 27 February, 2013, 11:33:36 AM
Something I wondered about, if anyone has any insights...(apologies if this has been covered to death) but when Anderson scans Dredd she says Dredd is '...almost.' and the CJ cuts her off with ''that's enough Anderson' or some such. 'Almost' what I wondered?... and why cut her off unless it's something Dredd shouldn't know?

There may or may not have been something interesting to learn but I doubt Chiefy was thinking about anything beyond making a point concerning Anderson's powers. It would've been unethical to let her carry on further.

That's true, it doesn't need to mean anything.
My take was that this whole exchange was a kind of dramatic device to frame Dredd for the audience: like the script is deliberately and self-conciously making Dredd fascinating and enigmatic and mythical by actively refusing explain him to an audience. I reckon it's quite brilliant. This is the Dredd from the comics explained in one line: yes, there's plenty going on under that helmet- but we're not getting into his 'back-story' or 'motivation'; he's not that kind of hero, this is not that kind of story...

That's it, nice one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 27 February, 2013, 08:57:07 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 27 February, 2013, 08:54:55 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 27 February, 2013, 08:40:42 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 27 February, 2013, 08:19:01 PM
Quote from: Stan on 27 February, 2013, 04:45:23 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 27 February, 2013, 11:33:36 AM
Something I wondered about, if anyone has any insights...(apologies if this has been covered to death) but when Anderson scans Dredd she says Dredd is '...almost.' and the CJ cuts her off with ''that's enough Anderson' or some such. 'Almost' what I wondered?... and why cut her off unless it's something Dredd shouldn't know?

There may or may not have been something interesting to learn but I doubt Chiefy was thinking about anything beyond making a point concerning Anderson's powers. It would've been unethical to let her carry on further.

That's true, it doesn't need to mean anything.
My take was that this whole exchange was a kind of dramatic device to frame Dredd for the audience: like the script is deliberately and self-conciously making Dredd fascinating and enigmatic and mythical by actively refusing explain him to an audience. I reckon it's quite brilliant. This is the Dredd from the comics explained in one line: yes, there's plenty going on under that helmet- but we're not getting into his 'back-story' or 'motivation'; he's not that kind of hero, this is not that kind of story...

That's it, nice one.

And what an antidote to the trend of writing an origin story....to every character that hits the big screen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 February, 2013, 01:10:16 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 27 February, 2013, 08:40:42 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 27 February, 2013, 08:19:01 PM
Quote from: Stan on 27 February, 2013, 04:45:23 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 27 February, 2013, 11:33:36 AM
Something I wondered about, if anyone has any insights...(apologies if this has been covered to death) but when Anderson scans Dredd she says Dredd is '...almost.' and the CJ cuts her off with ''that's enough Anderson' or some such. 'Almost' what I wondered?... and why cut her off unless it's something Dredd shouldn't know?

There may or may not have been something interesting to learn but I doubt Chiefy was thinking about anything beyond making a point concerning Anderson's powers. It would've been unethical to let her carry on further.

That's true, it doesn't need to mean anything.
My take was that this whole exchange was a kind of dramatic device to frame Dredd for the audience: like the script is deliberately and self-conciously making Dredd fascinating and enigmatic and mythical by actively refusing explain him to an audience. I reckon it's quite brilliant. This is the Dredd from the comics explained in one line: yes, there's plenty going on under that helmet- but we're not getting into his 'back-story' or 'motivation'; he's not that kind of hero, this is not that kind of story...

Yeah, I think it performed that function rather well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 February, 2013, 08:59:00 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 27 February, 2013, 08:57:07 PM
And what an antidote to the trend of writing an origin story....to every character that hits the big screen.



And they say Americans don't get Dredd:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZn8yGoGynY&t=30m47s



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 28 February, 2013, 08:34:01 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 February, 2013, 08:59:00 AM
Quote from: BOODA on 27 February, 2013, 08:57:07 PM
And what an antidote to the trend of writing an origin story....to every character that hits the big screen.



And they say Americans don't get Dredd:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZn8yGoGynY&t=30m47s

That was fun.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 02 March, 2013, 04:32:45 AM
So I was listening to one of my friends talk to one of his friends, who'd I already told dredd was awesome, and he went on about how it was proper 2000ad dredd, and I was like 'yeah, this is well cool' then I asked him if he watched it at the cinema for the 3D and he said "nah, I wish I did"

Blooody ridiculous. Part of me thinks my dad, who has been collecting 2000ad on and off since it started (mostly on) wouldn't have even gone if I hadn't of booked the ticket for him. So it just makes me ponder the whole sequel thing more. Times are changing, why is being a box office hit so important?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 02 March, 2013, 08:03:34 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 02 March, 2013, 04:32:45 AM
So I was listening to one of my friends talk to one of his friends, who'd I already told dredd was awesome, and he went on about how it was proper 2000ad dredd, and I was like 'yeah, this is well cool' then I asked him if he watched it at the cinema for the 3D and he said "nah, I wish I did"

Blooody ridiculous. Part of me thinks my dad, who has been collecting 2000ad on and off since it started (mostly on) wouldn't have even gone if I hadn't of booked the ticket for him. So it just makes me ponder the whole sequel thing more. Times are changing, why is being a box office hit so important?

$$$$$$$$$
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 02 March, 2013, 09:25:31 AM
Or if you're Rhythm and Hues, you'll get stiffed whether it's a hit or not.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 March, 2013, 11:23:09 AM

Dredd gets released in Sino-Cit (http://www.china.org.cn/arts/2013-03/01/content_28101198.htm):


(http://images.china.cn/attachement/jpg/site1007/20130301/001372a9ae27129aad5617.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 March, 2013, 11:53:35 AM



3D films do best in China and distributors generally prefer films in 3D.

China only allows 34 foreign films a year be released in their 13,000 cinemas but foreign companies take 25% of ticket price. 

500 films are domestic releases but foreign films account for 45% of revenue.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 02 March, 2013, 04:00:31 PM
Sweet. I think we all know what this means. ;-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 02 March, 2013, 04:10:41 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 March, 2013, 11:53:35 AM
...China only allows 34 foreign films a year be released...
Interesting; any idea how the lucky 34 are picked?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 02 March, 2013, 04:48:38 PM
I was actually wondering about this the other day because Red Dawn doesn't appear to have a release date in mainland China. Though, as Dredd has proved with China and Japan, sometimes it's difficult to confirm beforehand with lists you find on the internet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 02 March, 2013, 09:45:25 PM
CHINA ALL TIME OPENINGS
http://boxofficemojo.com/intl/china/opening/

I just wanted an idea of the cash potential.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 02 March, 2013, 10:02:45 PM
That actually seems a little unpredictable.

Thinking about it though, if there was one type of 'hero' the Chinese government would like to promote you'd think it'd be someone like Dredd.

PS: Triple post. >8O
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 03 March, 2013, 05:43:43 PM
I FINALLY saw Joe Soap's pic on the hoarding during the bike chase scene. I wonder if Dave Gibbons got a mention in the credits...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 03 March, 2013, 05:46:33 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 03 March, 2013, 05:43:43 PM
I wonder if Dave Gibbons got a mention in the credits...?

In a roundabout way, yes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 05 March, 2013, 08:51:13 AM
Has the collective seen this one from Manly Men Doing Manly Things yet?  I rather liked it - a mildly informed discussion ensues in the comments.

(http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/2013-01-21.jpg)

http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/comic/hope-alls-yall-picked-up-dredd-on-bluray
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 05 March, 2013, 11:32:45 AM
Those uniforms are completely different! BURN THE FAR MORE TALENTED ARTEST THAN I!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 05 March, 2013, 11:54:29 AM
Heh—I've seen similar arguments, but the point is the drug is addictive (leading to people committing crimes to acquire it), not allowed by the government (in an obvious parallel to relatively 'safe' drugs like cannabis today), and used by people in inappropriate conditions (such as when driving).

Fun cartoon though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 05 March, 2013, 12:19:15 PM
Plus there's an inherent suggestion all along - just as in the comics - that the judges are part of the problem, not the solution.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: captain_skank on 06 March, 2013, 10:52:44 AM
Quote from: radiator on 05 March, 2013, 12:19:15 PM
Plus there's an inherent suggestion all along - just as in the comics - that the judges are part of the problem, not the solution.

Thats a five stretch in the cubes right there sunshine. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 06 March, 2013, 05:02:59 PM
Is it just me or did that seem a bit harsh?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 06 March, 2013, 05:41:34 PM
Quote from: Stan on 06 March, 2013, 05:02:59 PM
Is it just me or did that seem a bit harsh?

I think it's pretty light, considering it's a subversion charge..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 06 March, 2013, 05:53:09 PM
MTV can fuck off..

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1703068/2013-mtv-movie-awards-nominees.jhtml
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 March, 2013, 08:54:00 PM
Fuck MTV, we can make it ourselves;

BREAKTHROUGH PERFORMANCE
Olivia Thirlby as Anderson

BEST SCARED-AS-S**T PERFORMANCE
Karl Urban as Dredd

BEST ON-SCREEN DUO
Sorry no idea....  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

BEST SHIRTLESS PERFORMANCE
Erm...

BEST FIGHT
"Choke on that!" Dredd with Chan

BEST KISS
Dredd's Glasgow Kiss on Kay

BEST WTF MOMENT
Dredd with Caleb

BEST VILLAIN
Ma-Ma or Judge Lex!

BEST MUSICAL MOMENT
Shit, which you do think best one in Dredd?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 06 March, 2013, 09:03:20 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 March, 2013, 08:54:00 PM
BEST MUSICAL MOMENT
Shit, which you do think best one in Dredd?

That Beiber inspired slow one. For real.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 March, 2013, 12:14:57 AM
The opening music is the best, especially the bit where it finally kicks while the title explodes into your awe struck face. (3D viewing only)

Followed by the roar of the bike. Man what a rush.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 07 March, 2013, 12:24:40 AM
That really deep purr of the bike engine is so omnipresent in the soundtrack that even though there's so little of the bike action on screen,  it still gives you the lawmaster you cant see; and the subconcious notion of Urban,  and the city, deeply growling at each other like dangerous animals.... or at least that's how it seems to me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 07 March, 2013, 08:08:36 AM
BEST MUSICAL MOMENT for me has got to be at the end of the movie just after dredd says andersons
a pass to the chief judge then what sounds like a bass kicks in and then you hear dredd speak
and then you hear that badass lawmaster fuckin roar like a animal with DREDD on the back of it off to kick
more ass in MC1  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 07 March, 2013, 08:51:21 AM
Oh yeah and a little birdy told me dredd was doing ok in china at the box office its took like
2 to 3 mil us $ in 3 days
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 07 March, 2013, 12:19:08 PM
Yeah, that's a tough one, and it's so easy to choose not only the lawmaster scenes, but also mini-guns and bad judges.  All those tunes just so perfectly suit what's going down on screen. 

However, I'll throw another bit in there - when Dredd and Anderson are trapped on the floor, and Dredd goes stalking off to see what is going on.  People see him and lock and bolt their doors, peering nervously through their viewfinders.  The music there just oozes tension.  That eerie slow drumbeat, and the dischordant notes fading in and out.  It really sets the scene, and makes my hairs stand on end every time I watch it. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 07 March, 2013, 12:37:47 PM
The main theme of Dredd 'Mega-City One', which is reprised a few times throughout the movie, is a downright brilliant piece of music in its own right. Brutal, catchy and memorable, and sounds like no other soundtrack. I could watch the opening five minutes of the film over and over again, it's just perfect.

Great to finally have a definitive Dredd theme.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 March, 2013, 02:11:40 PM
Quote from: hazy efc on 07 March, 2013, 08:51:21 AM
Oh yeah and a little birdy told me dredd was doing ok in china at the box office its took like
2 to 3 mil us $ in 3 days


It only gets to keep 25% of that money though, so if it makes $10 million overall, it only keeps $2.5 million.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 07 March, 2013, 05:42:38 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 March, 2013, 02:11:40 PM
Quote from: hazy efc on 07 March, 2013, 08:51:21 AM
Oh yeah and a little birdy told me dredd was doing ok in china at the box office its took like
2 to 3 mil us $ in 3 days


It only gets to keep 25% of that money though, so if it makes $10 million overall, it only keeps $2.5 million.

Do we know if it's a legit distribution with one of these companies rather than a buyout? If it's the latter then I assume it'll make jack.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/china-market-buyouts-offer-indie-426030

Since only the two big state-owned studios -- ChinaFilm Group Corporation and Huaxia Film Distribution Company -- are allowed to distribute official releases, the two firms get something akin to right of first refusal for other movies. If they pass, smaller Chinese companies can buy the rights. As a result, buyouts are primarily genre fare and B movies.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 March, 2013, 07:39:13 PM



Dredd is distributed by the ChinaFilm Group Corporation.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 07 March, 2013, 08:07:19 PM
Thanks. I'm glad we knew that. Bring on the megabucks!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DrJomster on 07 March, 2013, 09:52:24 PM
This thread has had 10,076 replies! Good work, team!  :cool:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 March, 2013, 11:46:17 PM
Also, I thought the sound Dredd's boots made when they hit the floor was pretty damn cool. Not really part of the score I know, but still it's an ear pleaser. Made him seem really intimidating and badass. This was only in the cinema for me as well as my speakers aren't the greatest.

That's a shame about the Chinese taking such a huge cut. Maybe DNA should try get them to invest in the sequel?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 07 March, 2013, 11:56:07 PM
I'm not sure that's a good idea after the omnishambles that was Red Dawn.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 07 March, 2013, 11:56:39 PM
Where are we right now as to the total monies made for the makers of Dredd ,including Cinema/DVD/Blueray sales? Close to profit yet?

What did it take in Japan?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 March, 2013, 12:24:47 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 07 March, 2013, 11:56:39 PM
Where are we right now as to the total monies made for the makers of Dredd ,including Cinema/DVD/Blueray sales? Close to profit yet?



No way to know that total as there are no sources for worldwide DVD/blu-ray sales, only US.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 March, 2013, 08:32:20 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 March, 2013, 11:46:17 PM
Also, I thought the sound Dredd's boots made when they hit the floor was pretty damn cool. Not really part of the score I know, but still it's an ear pleaser. Made him seem really intimidating and badass. This was only in the cinema for me as well as my speakers aren't the greatest.

That's a shame about the Chinese taking such a huge cut. Maybe DNA should try get them to invest in the sequel?

"I'm not sure that's a good idea after the omnishambles that was Red Dawn."

What about Looper, though?...that was part Chinese investment I think and a cracking film....and the Chinese have ready-made mega-cities to shoot in.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 March, 2013, 12:28:25 PM
Nice of Play.com to post that on Facebook now!

(http://i.imgur.com/T6w4HTD.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 March, 2013, 11:56:50 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 08 March, 2013, 08:32:20 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 March, 2013, 11:46:17 PM
Also, I thought the sound Dredd's boots made when they hit the floor was pretty damn cool. Not really part of the score I know, but still it's an ear pleaser. Made him seem really intimidating and badass. This was only in the cinema for me as well as my speakers aren't the greatest.

That's a shame about the Chinese taking such a huge cut. Maybe DNA should try get them to invest in the sequel?

"I'm not sure that's a good idea after the omnishambles that was Red Dawn."

What about Looper, though?...that was part Chinese investment I think and a cracking film....and the Chinese have ready-made mega-cities to shoot in.

And a half decent desert.

I suppose I worry in general that Dredd is so potentially censor-worthy and adding China to the mix may make things worse. Though seeing as there definitely definitely DEFINITELY DEFINITELY DEFINITELY isn't gonna be a sequel I should probably chill out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 09 March, 2013, 12:20:01 AM
Had another guy at college watch it, said he hated it and prefers the Stallone version. Mind you, he like'd Taken 2... :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Emp on 09 March, 2013, 12:27:17 AM
There's always one
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 09 March, 2013, 10:34:33 AM
Quote from: Stan on 08 March, 2013, 11:56:50 PM
Quote from: BOODA on 08 March, 2013, 08:32:20 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 07 March, 2013, 11:46:17 PM
Also, I thought the sound Dredd's boots made when they hit the floor was pretty damn cool. Not really part of the score I know, but still it's an ear pleaser. Made him seem really intimidating and badass. This was only in the cinema for me as well as my speakers aren't the greatest.

That's a shame about the Chinese taking such a huge cut. Maybe DNA should try get them to invest in the sequel?

"I'm not sure that's a good idea after the omnishambles that was Red Dawn."

What about Looper, though?...that was part Chinese investment I think and a cracking film....and the Chinese have ready-made mega-cities to shoot in.

And a half decent desert.

I suppose I worry in general that Dredd is so potentially censor-worthy and adding China to the mix may make things worse. Though seeing as there definitely definitely DEFINITELY DEFINITELY DEFINITELY isn't gonna be a sequel I should probably chill out.

Definitely! :)  ...and it has a polluted Yangtse (the big smelly) and ready-made UNDERCITY... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2oznZN5HW4
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 10 March, 2013, 08:10:21 AM
did anyone else spot  people (extras) playing more than 1  Character
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 10 March, 2013, 08:15:57 AM
You are way off with the first one but the other 2 pictures have a strong case.





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 11 March, 2013, 09:54:15 AM
Looks like it.. Wouldn't be the first time that happened though. I'm sure I saw the same stormtrooper a few times when watching Star Wars..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 11 March, 2013, 04:12:59 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 11 March, 2013, 09:54:15 AM
Looks like it.. Wouldn't be the first time that happened though. I'm sure I saw the same stormtrooper a few times when watching Star Wars..

The guy that plays Boba Fett also doubles as one of the Imperial Officers taking escorting Leia, Threepio and Chewie to Vaders ship in ESB.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 11 March, 2013, 04:32:34 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 11 March, 2013, 04:12:59 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 11 March, 2013, 09:54:15 AM
Looks like it.. Wouldn't be the first time that happened though. I'm sure I saw the same stormtrooper a few times when watching Star Wars..

The guy that plays Boba Fett also doubles as one of the Imperial Officers taking escorting Leia, Threepio and Chewie to Vaders ship in ESB.
Didn't know Mr Bulloch was an officer as well. Every day is a school day.
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120109234542/starwars/images/6/62/FashionableFelonFindsFormerFettFlatFooted-ESB.jpg)




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 March, 2013, 04:34:23 PM
It's common for low-budget productions that had extras in different scenes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 11 March, 2013, 07:31:43 PM
So we now know DEFINITELY no sequel? How? Who? Where?

Sorry if this has been discussed to death but I've been travelling for a month, mostly internetless, and am completely in the dark.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 11 March, 2013, 07:58:32 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 11 March, 2013, 04:32:34 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 11 March, 2013, 04:12:59 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 11 March, 2013, 09:54:15 AM
Looks like it.. Wouldn't be the first time that happened though. I'm sure I saw the same stormtrooper a few times when watching Star Wars..

The guy that plays Boba Fett also doubles as one of the Imperial Officers taking escorting Leia, Threepio and Chewie to Vaders ship in ESB.
Didn't know Mr Bulloch was an officer as well. Every day is a school day.
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120109234542/starwars/images/6/62/FashionableFelonFindsFormerFettFlatFooted-ESB.jpg)




V

Could almost be a Lawgiver MKI , if it had an ammo selector on top.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 March, 2013, 05:01:27 PM
ha, they used the dredd soundtrack in the new kick ass 2 trailer. http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=36786 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=36786)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 13 March, 2013, 05:06:01 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 March, 2013, 05:01:27 PM
ha, they used the dredd soundtrack in the new kick ass 2 trailer. http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=36786 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=36786)
Are they alloud to do that? probably not...and jesus that CGI is bad!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 March, 2013, 05:15:31 PM
Of course they're allowed. Don't know how much money that sort of thing generates for Dredd though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 March, 2013, 11:18:25 PM
Any new updates on Dredd's Box Office performance in China?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 March, 2013, 11:25:36 PM



http://english.entgroup.cn/566117/boxoffice/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 March, 2013, 11:48:54 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 March, 2013, 11:25:36 PM



http://english.entgroup.cn/566117/boxoffice/

Nice one Joe!  :)

Care to speculate on a final figure?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 March, 2013, 11:54:55 PM



$6-8 million before China takes its 75% cut.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 March, 2013, 11:56:00 PM
75%?  :o

Ouch!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 14 March, 2013, 12:02:21 AM
Oh we'll, every little helps!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 14 March, 2013, 08:31:57 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 March, 2013, 11:54:55 PM



$6-8 million before China takes its 75% cut.
:o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 March, 2013, 09:07:37 AM
Off the topic but here;

According to The Hollywood Reporter, Dredd and Star Trek Into Darkness star Karl Urban has been cast in the pilot for JJ Abrams and JH Wyman's Fringe successor, Human.

The show is described as "an action-packed buddy-cop show set in the near future, when all LAPD officers are partnered with highly evolved humanlike androids" and Urban will play "John Kennex, a respected police officer who has shut down emotionally after a tragic mission that claimed the lives of nine of his fellow elite officers and left him critically injured."

Urban joins a cast that includes Underworld: Awakening's Michael Ealy as Kennex's android partner Dorian and Hemlock Grove and The Conjuring's Lili Taylor as the police captain.

The pilot will be directed and written/produced by Fringe alum Brad Anderson (The Machinist, The Killing) and JH Wyman for Warner Bros Television and Bad Robot.


http://www.scifinow.co.uk/news/38179/jj-abrams-sci-fi-cop-show-casts-karl-urban/ (http://www.scifinow.co.uk/news/38179/jj-abrams-sci-fi-cop-show-casts-karl-urban/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 14 March, 2013, 09:26:02 AM
Seems like a good fit for the Urbinator.
Will be following this one with interest.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 14 March, 2013, 09:43:46 AM
Reading that, I couldn't help but think of Yuppie And The Alien from GTA Vice City.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 14 March, 2013, 11:07:03 AM
It reminds me of Alien Nation, where a new York cop was partnered with an alien, one of a bunch given Citizen status from a refugee spaceship.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 14 March, 2013, 11:07:58 AM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096531/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 14 March, 2013, 01:45:01 PM
I'm not sure if I actually caught the film version but I always assumed Yuppie And The Alien was a nod to that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 14 March, 2013, 02:20:30 PM
Quote from: Stan on 14 March, 2013, 09:43:46 AM
Reading that, I couldn't help but think of Yuppie And The Alien from GTA Vice City.

More like

(http://futureflamme.f.u.pic.centerblog.net/q872qeou.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 15 March, 2013, 12:19:10 AM
Hey guys don't know if this has been posted or linked anywhere on here but there is a facebook page called Make a DREDD Sequel and all they want is to get to 5000 likes to progress so get yourselfs over there and just click like! ON this sort of note I've noticed a surge on web sites (not just fan types) of people and more often than not press saying Dredd 2 needs to happen as they wish to see more of Urbans Dredd now they have seen the Blu ray.What a bloody shame that (a) the initial promotion for this film was piss poor at best and (b) It didn't try to distance itself enough from that god awful 95 movie as most people I know thought it was a direct sequel to it. :( . Been watching all the dvd's I got for xmas again last few weeks which was all of last years action/scifi stuff and I have to say Dredd outshines them all,still keep finding nice touches in the background.As for karl as Dredd think anyone else in the role would have been hard pushed to beat his performance.Deserves an award. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 March, 2013, 12:35:24 AM



http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,38162.0/topicseen.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 15 March, 2013, 06:57:05 AM
Thought it seemed familier  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 15 March, 2013, 07:26:05 AM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 15 March, 2013, 12:19:10 AM
What a bloody shame that (a) the initial promotion for this film was piss poor at best and (b) It didn't try to distance itself enough from that god awful 95 movie as most people I know thought it was a direct sequel to it.

and (c) if you wanted to see a non-3D showing then it was tough luck. I keep going on about this but I saw this point come up in a bunch of reviews (http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/jan/13/dredd-hysteria-shadow-dancer-dvd-review) as a factor to put people off. So certainly wasn't just me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 15 March, 2013, 07:54:30 AM
to check this out  we have  OZ 3D  just out ..... is it easy to view  2d versions  for this movie  ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 15 March, 2013, 08:28:43 AM
Quote from: junox
to check this out  we have  OZ 3D  just out ..... is it easy to view  2d versions  for this movie  ?

Yup - you just look at the screen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 15 March, 2013, 08:36:28 AM
Quote from: junox on 15 March, 2013, 07:54:30 AM
to check this out  we have  OZ 3D  just out ..... is it easy to view  2d versions  for this movie  ?

Do you mean "Oz: The Great and Powerful has just come out, how easy is it to find a 2D showing of that, to make comparisons with Dredd 3D" ?

Well looking at today my local cinema (Vue Cinema) has three showings in 3D and three showings in 2D, going to the next closest cinema (Empire Cinema) we have four showings in 3D and eight in 2D. Man, that was kinda disheartening making this comparison  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 15 March, 2013, 09:55:53 AM
Quote from: sheldipez on 15 March, 2013, 08:36:28 AMMan, that was kinda disheartening making this comparison  :(

Telling, though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 16 March, 2013, 10:00:40 PM
Very telling.

Thrilled when I heard Dredd would be in 3D but simply took it as read there would be plenty of 2D prints out there too.

It does still seem odd that they didn't do this, more money for the 3D tickets sure, but why wouldn't you cover yourself by giving the option?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 March, 2013, 12:04:39 AM
Money junkyism can sometimes distort the thinking process.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richard on 17 March, 2013, 06:17:42 PM
Quotemost people I know thought it was a direct sequel

I have never understood that, given the title.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 17 March, 2013, 06:58:20 PM
Another excellent review of Dredd..this time in LITTLE WHITE LIES page 59.
http://issuu.com/lwlies/docs/lwlies43/1
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 March, 2013, 10:18:29 PM
Dredd £8.95 on Blu-ray from Zavvi!

http://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/dredd-3d/10661460.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 March, 2013, 10:25:53 PM
It's getting closer to the price that SBT will pay before he bothers to buy it ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 17 March, 2013, 10:29:09 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 March, 2013, 10:25:53 PM
It's getting closer to the price that SBT will pay before he bothers to buy it ;)
SBT was not a fan? :|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 March, 2013, 10:33:22 PM
You could say that :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 17 March, 2013, 10:35:36 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 March, 2013, 10:33:22 PM
You could say that :lol:
I must have missed this, and can't be bothered scrolling through 1000+ pages of material. I'll just assume he loathed it.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 March, 2013, 10:39:44 PM
I think he paid to see it at least three time, with different people each visit! Just to confirm how much he didn't enjoy it ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 17 March, 2013, 10:40:48 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 March, 2013, 10:39:44 PM
I think he paid to see it at least three time, with different people each visit! Just to confirm how much he didn't enjoy it ;)
Ouch. Well, there's always one. ::) ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 17 March, 2013, 11:05:55 PM
SBT's absence from this forum has been noted, and prior to that he'd made it clear that his repeat viewings were from a wish to support the venture even if it didn't meet with his personal approval. God knows, I disagree with SBT on almost everything that touches on SF fandom, but this kind of petty sniping ill serves the supposedly "friendliest place on the Internet".

Grow up.

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 17 March, 2013, 11:31:39 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 17 March, 2013, 11:05:55 PM
SBT's absence from this forum has been noted, and prior to that he'd made it clear that his repeat viewings were from a wish to support the venture even if it didn't meet with his personal approval. God knows, I disagree with SBT on almost everything that touches on SF fandom, but this kind of petty sniping ill serves the supposedly "friendliest place on the Internet".

Grow up.

Jim
Erm, I was actualy saying his opinion is accpetable. I may not agree with it but, it's his and he's welcome to it. I wasn't slandering him in anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 March, 2013, 11:50:18 PM
Do not fear Hawkmonger I have it from the horses mouth that he doesn't see it as petty sniping, in fact he has said this

when my local blockbuster closed down recently, i did go in especially to buy Dredd on dvd for £3, but they'd all gone. Asda had it for £7 the other week and i thought about it for a minute or so before buying the Richard Dawkins boxset instead for a tenner. I will buy Dredd when i see it cheap enough, but as i didnt like it very much- and have since stopped buying the comics- it's understandably not high on my list.

SBT has spoken!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 March, 2013, 12:00:27 AM
Oh dear, well SBT don't like anything much, so it's his option
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 18 March, 2013, 12:55:41 AM
Richard Dawkins? He must really hate Dr3dd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 March, 2013, 03:37:31 AM



Officially on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/movie?v=6wsVn99Q3Po)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 18 March, 2013, 03:42:08 AM
I didn't realise Youtube provided that kind of service. It's not available here anyway (not that version at least).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 18 March, 2013, 09:09:31 AM
They're advertsing Dredd on Foxtel now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 18 March, 2013, 09:37:41 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 March, 2013, 11:50:18 PM
SBT has spoken!

Huzzah!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 18 March, 2013, 10:20:55 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 16 March, 2013, 10:00:40 PMIt does still seem odd that they didn't do this, more money for the 3D tickets sure, but why wouldn't you cover yourself by giving the option?
I imagine it was a gamble. Dredd was always going to be a movie that had a really quick boom and bust cycle at best, and as much money as possible needed to be grabbed on that opening weekend. 3D boosts ticket prices and enabled the flick to grab that number-one slot. The question is whether enough extra people would have gone to make up any shortfall had there been a bunch of 2D screenings. I do wonder what would have happened if Dredd had gone wide in 2D, but on a very limited number of showings per cinema—i.e. a couple of 3D showings in a typical modern multiplex, and maybe two or three 2D showings per day, in the evening. I suspect it probably wouldn't have made much difference (and certainly not enough to propel earnings into sequel territory—the dire US takings showed how that wouldn't have been possible).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 18 March, 2013, 10:40:30 AM
Recent price cut propels Dredd back to no.1 at Play.com Blu Ray chart (and back up to no.10 on Amazon.co.uk).

http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/6-/TopSellers.html (http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/6-/TopSellers.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 18 March, 2013, 10:47:34 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 March, 2013, 11:50:18 PM
Do not fear Hawkmonger I have it from the horses mouth that he doesn't see it as petty sniping, in fact he has said this

when my local blockbuster closed down recently, i did go in especially to buy Dredd on dvd for £3, but they'd all gone. Asda had it for £7 the other week and i thought about it for a minute or so before buying the Richard Dawkins boxset instead for a tenner. I will buy Dredd when i see it cheap enough, but as i didnt like it very much- and have since stopped buying the comics- it's understandably not high on my list.

SBT has spoken!
Seem's a tad drastic just to convey how much he disliked an addaptation.  :|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 18 March, 2013, 10:53:15 AM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 18 March, 2013, 10:47:34 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 March, 2013, 11:50:18 PM
Do not fear Hawkmonger I have it from the horses mouth that he doesn't see it as petty sniping, in fact he has said this

when my local blockbuster closed down recently, i did go in especially to buy Dredd on dvd for £3, but they'd all gone. Asda had it for £7 the other week and i thought about it for a minute or so before buying the Richard Dawkins boxset instead for a tenner. I will buy Dredd when i see it cheap enough, but as i didnt like it very much- and have since stopped buying the comics- it's understandably not high on my list.

SBT has spoken!
Seem's a tad drastic just to convey how much he disliked an addaptation.  :|

I'm hoping that the stop buying the prog was unrelated to the movie. Right?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mabs on 18 March, 2013, 10:59:01 AM
Quote from: sheldipez on 18 March, 2013, 10:53:15 AM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 18 March, 2013, 10:47:34 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 March, 2013, 11:50:18 PM
Do not fear Hawkmonger I have it from the horses mouth that he doesn't see it as petty sniping, in fact he has said this

when my local blockbuster closed down recently, i did go in especially to buy Dredd on dvd for £3, but they'd all gone. Asda had it for £7 the other week and i thought about it for a minute or so before buying the Richard Dawkins boxset instead for a tenner. I will buy Dredd when i see it cheap enough, but as i didnt like it very much- and have since stopped buying the comics- it's understandably not high on my list.

SBT has spoken!
Seem's a tad drastic just to convey how much he disliked an addaptation.  :|

I'm hoping that the stop buying the prog was unrelated to the movie. Right?

I'd like to think so. SBT may have had his own views which differed with others on here, but he's still a big miss on the forum in my honest opinion.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 18 March, 2013, 01:56:20 PM
Just watched the original trailer and it made me feel nostalgic already.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 18 March, 2013, 04:00:08 PM
Quote from: sheldipez on 18 March, 2013, 10:53:15 AM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 18 March, 2013, 10:47:34 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 March, 2013, 11:50:18 PM
Do not fear Hawkmonger I have it from the horses mouth that he doesn't see it as petty sniping, in fact he has said this

when my local blockbuster closed down recently, i did go in especially to buy Dredd on dvd for £3, but they'd all gone. Asda had it for £7 the other week and i thought about it for a minute or so before buying the Richard Dawkins boxset instead for a tenner. I will buy Dredd when i see it cheap enough, but as i didnt like it very much- and have since stopped buying the comics- it's understandably not high on my list.

SBT has spoken!
Seem's a tad drastic just to convey how much he disliked an addaptation.  :|

I'm hoping that the stop buying the prog was unrelated to the movie. Right?
Thats a good point. If so, why?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 18 March, 2013, 04:23:03 PM
It may be that SBT has stopped buying the IDW run of Dredd comics? I doubt he's stopped buying the prog..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 18 March, 2013, 04:40:20 PM
Dredd beats The Dark Knight Rises in the D section for most popular in the Box Office rentals listing on BTVision. A small victory.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 18 March, 2013, 09:44:48 PM
The turgid pile of tripe that was Hansel and Gretel Witch Hunters gets a sequel thanks to a large worldwide gross despite flopping in the US. :(

There is no god.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 18 March, 2013, 09:45:20 PM
Oh, and link - http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/03/18/hansel-and-gretel-witch-hunters-will-get-a-sequel?abthid=5147873f6906be2667000019
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 19 March, 2013, 11:35:23 PM
Ouch. Dredd took a beating in week 3.

http://english.entgroup.cn/566117/boxoffice/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 20 March, 2013, 09:06:59 AM
It almost feels like the powers that be behind Dredd almost purposely went out of their way to make Dredd perform as poorly as possibly, in a 'Fine, we'll fund this movie but we're not going to enjoy it-and don't even bother asking about a sequel cos yer lucky to get this..' sort of way..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 20 March, 2013, 09:18:39 AM
Half the gross from over a third of the screenings, certainly shows strength of character.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 20 March, 2013, 09:27:00 AM
Under a third I mean.  (I dunno I juthst get tho exthiting when A'hm pothsting ohn thisth here board)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 March, 2013, 08:38:16 AM

Our Dredd 3D got featured in Total Film new feature 25 Moments where 3D Makes The Film Better

http://www.totalfilm.com/features/25-moments-where-3d-makes-the-film-better/dredd-2012 (http://www.totalfilm.com/features/25-moments-where-3d-makes-the-film-better/dredd-2012)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mabs on 21 March, 2013, 08:55:10 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 21 March, 2013, 08:38:16 AM

Our Dredd 3D got featured in Total Film new feature 25 Moments where 3D Makes The Film Better

http://www.totalfilm.com/features/25-moments-where-3d-makes-the-film-better/dredd-2012 (http://www.totalfilm.com/features/25-moments-where-3d-makes-the-film-better/dredd-2012)

Some great 3D films in that list, Goaty. The scene that they mention in Dredd (the Junkie shootout) was awesome no doubt, but i also loved Ma-Ma's bathtime scene, with the water droplets dancing like miniature planets in orbit. A very poetic moment in a ultra violent action film!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DaveGYNWA on 21 March, 2013, 11:55:24 AM
I love my job sometimes....have to do an analysis of video playback on a new phone, and have been requested to watch a film in excess of 90 minutes long and report on any issues I observe with the playback and sound. And do it 3 times in total, so as to confirm findings. If only I had decided to rip my DVD of Dredd to my work laptop recently......oh yes, I did do that didn't I? Result!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 21 March, 2013, 03:10:05 PM
Dredd DVD £7 in Asda.


filip
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 21 March, 2013, 04:55:55 PM
I noticed today that on a big, recent chart at Sainsburys, Dredd was still on the number 9 spot :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 21 March, 2013, 08:01:48 PM
Dredd on DVD £5.00 in Sainsbury's!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hoagy on 22 March, 2013, 12:44:54 PM
Fuck me. Dredd pricecheck!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 22 March, 2013, 02:46:57 PM
Haven't seen this posted elsewhere on the board but Dredd 3D Producer Adi Shankar has spoken about sequel potential (or lack thereof) amongst other Dredd tidbits on his reddit IAmA (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1am57s/i_am_adi_shankar_producer_of_the_grey_dredd/)

Worth a read.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 March, 2013, 02:50:04 PM
The first reply made me  :D

Question - I loved Dredd. Will it have a sequel?

Answer - Probably not. But I am working on a Dredd short in the vein of #DirtyLaundry ... you're actually the first person to know about this ...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 March, 2013, 02:59:17 PM
Hmm.

Interesting.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 March, 2013, 11:05:02 AM

Guess who back on number 9...?

http://www.officialcharts.com/blu-ray-chart/ (http://www.officialcharts.com/blu-ray-chart/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 March, 2013, 05:14:11 PM
Heh!

Kevin Smith (of Clerks / comic fan) just tweet this;

Holy shit, DREDD rocks! I am in love with Judge Anderson! How the fuck didn't this movie do more business? It's like RoboCop good. #MegaCity
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mabs on 25 March, 2013, 05:21:37 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 25 March, 2013, 05:14:11 PM
Heh!

Kevin Smith (of Clerks / comic fan) just tweet this;

Holy shit, DREDD rocks! I am in love with Judge Anderson! How the fuck didn't this movie do more business? It's like RoboCop good. #MegaCity

That's great to hear from the Bobster! Thanks for sharing, Goaty!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 25 March, 2013, 06:17:46 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 25 March, 2013, 05:14:11 PM
How the fuck didn't this movie do more business?

Because, the cinema release was over six months ago?  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 25 March, 2013, 07:30:48 PM
Pardons if you lot have seen this....

Prototype Dredd helmet pics and chance to win it!

http://www.therpf.com/f71/rpf-dredd-helmet-contest-win-original-helmet-176687/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 March, 2013, 08:25:30 PM
Heh!

Kevin Smith tweets three more;

The ever-helmeted Dredd just head-butted Avon Barksdale. This movie rules. Like Marcy & me, Judge Anderson says "Sir..." a lot. #CursedEarth

DREDD was phenomenal! To say it's better than the Stallone movie version doesn't do it justice: it's better than most movies in general.

Comic Book True: DREDD keeps his helmet on THE WHOLE TIME! Cursed earth! How are they not making another? I want a sequel with Judge Death!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 25 March, 2013, 08:34:07 PM
Wow! Tweet back to him, and ask if he can get someone to finance a sequel.  You never know!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 25 March, 2013, 08:53:59 PM
Just tweeted him to start a campain for a sequel, you never know.Seems the love for this movie is growing fast shame it wasnt promoted better at time of release.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 March, 2013, 08:59:07 PM
But you all know a sequel will NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER happen!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 25 March, 2013, 09:04:48 PM
Dont shatter my dreams John ,its all I have left.Reality sucks  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 25 March, 2013, 09:05:19 PM
We can DREAM  C.F.   and DREAMS can come true
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mabs on 25 March, 2013, 09:15:08 PM
Quote from: junox on 25 March, 2013, 09:05:19 PM
We can DREAM  C.F.   and DREAMS can come true

^This. CF. Hell yeah!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 March, 2013, 09:20:22 PM
Yes we can dream and low and behold :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 25 March, 2013, 10:20:32 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 25 March, 2013, 05:14:11 PM
Heh!

Kevin Smith (of Clerks / comic fan) just tweet this;

Holy shit, DREDD rocks! I am in love with Judge Anderson! How the fuck didn't this movie do more business? It's like RoboCop good. #MegaCity

Aaaaargh -**** me this is frustrating.So many people loving this film POST cinema release.

The marketing people deserve the Titan trip.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 25 March, 2013, 11:08:46 PM
Out of interest has any other film that tanked at the box office gained as much interest from non fans for a sequel as Dredd , I can't think of one.And yeah it is frustrating beyond belief that people are loving this post cinema release. BASTARDS ALL OF EM, robbing me of my beloved sequel  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 26 March, 2013, 12:28:48 PM
A Titan trip for the marketing people?

That's harsh. After all, they could only work with what they got and what they got was a pretty niche product.  i.e. science fiction, no marquee name stars, no marquee name director/producer, violent and gory, 18 rated, no real traction from comic (except in UK), baggage from previous film, no face to put on posters, dark humour, grim setting, no splashy visuals...

Some of those were things that could not be altered but I'm pretty sure it wasn't marketing that made all of the decisions and each one could have had an effect on Box Office.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 26 March, 2013, 01:14:29 PM
Quotescience fiction, no marquee name stars, no marquee name director/producer, violent and gory, 18 rated, no real traction from comic (except in UK), baggage from previous film, no face to put on posters, dark humour, grim setting, no splashy visuals...

You know, you could almost be talking about the smash hit District 9. And Dredd had some great visuals that were poorly showcased in the trailers.

Did Iron Man have 'traction' from the comic with the mainstream public? I would argue not.

Perhaps a Dredd film, no matter how great the final product turned out, was never going to fly. But the fact remains that the film was to a certain extent marketed atrociously. Things like selling the film exclusively as a gimmicky, cheap B movie (adding '3D' to the title, severely limiting 2D screenings) were bitter mistakes. They also neglected to mention that the film was from the makers of 28 Days Later - a big hit in the US.

They evidently didn't do nearly enough to distance the film from the Stallone version, and there was also a general cheapness to some of the marketing materials - the theatrical poster was strong, but where were the posters hyping up the rest of the cast? All things considered, the trailer was pretty weak and should have been so much better given the footage and audio they had to work with.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 26 March, 2013, 01:44:43 PM
It's easy in hindsight to see where everything went wrong, though. Looking back, the trailer was messed up. The later ones from Japan (more emphasis on action and less on the underlying story) were the way to go; also, overly focussing on a certain demographic (like the wrestling thing) perhaps didn't help. Hyping Anderson more would have helped too, given the hugely positive response the film got from women (who ended up being a very low percentage of the audience).

Ultimately, though, the stink of Stallone stuck around, and there simply weren't the marketing dollars to counter that. Iron Man didn't have traction, but it's more well known in the US and didn't have a terrible prior film lurking in recent memory.

The Smith thing really annoys me though. He's a comics geek, and so it'd be interesting to know why he didn't see the film when it opened. With his two million followers, those tweets at the time could have been enough to get more word of mouth, and even nudge Dredd up a chart position or two. Now, though, he just comes across as yet another of the screaming mob who should have gotten off their arses to see the film during its cinema run.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 26 March, 2013, 01:52:32 PM
QuoteIt's easy in hindsight to see where everything went wrong, though. Looking back, the trailer was messed up.

I think that the general consensus on the trailer at the time! I distinctly remember being a little underwhelmed by it, and dumbstruck at how inappropriate the choice of music was. The Japanese and Blu Ray trailers were indeed far superior.

QuoteNow, though, he just comes across as yet another of the screaming mob who should have gotten off their arses to see the film during its cinema run.

Yep, same old, same old.

"How did this movie not do more business at the cinema?" he asks.

My tweeted reply "Because no one - yourself included - went to see it!"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 26 March, 2013, 01:54:56 PM
QuoteWith his two million followers, those tweets at the time could have been enough to get more word of mouth, and even nudge Dredd up a chart position or two.

Sadly, Harry Knowles' online crusade to get people to see Dredd didn't seem to help much.  :'(

I'll certainly be keeping an eye on Kevin Smith's podcast output over the next few weeks, as I'm sure Dredd will be up for discussion - maybe that will give the Blu Ray sales a slight boost at least!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Muon on 26 March, 2013, 03:35:51 PM
To be fair on Kevin Smith, he seems to make about fifty podcasts a week, he's busy writing "Clerks 3," and he also has a family and a load of dogs making demands on his time. Not that I'm stalking him or anything, but I'm a big fan of his "Smodcast" podcast and he talks about all those things on there all the time  :P He also talks a lot about how he doesn't really like going out of the house and pretty much never goes to the cinema. So I don't think he was ever going to go out and see the film. Glad he liked it, though - his podcasts crack me up on the way to work.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 26 March, 2013, 03:36:58 PM
Quote from: radiator on 26 March, 2013, 01:52:32 PMI think that the general consensus on the trailer at the time! I distinctly remember being a little underwhelmed by it, and dumbstruck at how inappropriate the choice of music was. The Japanese and Blu Ray trailers were indeed far superior.
The trailer was quite evocative, but looking at it now, it's like the people who okayed it were trying to distance themselves from what Dredd was: a ballsy, fairly intelligent, old-school action thriller. It should have ramped up the Carpenterness and ensured Anderson was still kicking bottom in there, and just run with it. Again, though, it's easy to say this in hindsight.

QuoteSadly, Harry Knowles' online crusade to get people to see Dredd didn't seem to help much.
No, but imagine a few more people had gone nuts over the film. There'd have potentially been a knock-on effect. I'm not mad enough to think it would have made a big enough difference (such as Dredd sitting at #1 in the US for four weeks), but it could have been enough to raise the profile and perhaps even keep it longer in the top ten. (As people will recall, it did well mid-week and then kept dropping out of the top-ten—and therefore the general public's mind—at the last moment.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 26 March, 2013, 09:41:08 PM
Wasn't IRON MAN, even as a second tier Marvel character, still massively more well known than Dredd?

Sure District 9 did well (or did it?) but that doesn't automatically mean all similar films will do well.

Am I the only one who thought the trailer was ok, including the music? I didn't even realise it gave away a major plot point until I saw the film itself.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 March, 2013, 11:50:13 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 26 March, 2013, 01:44:43 PMThe Smith thing really annoys me though. He's a comics geek, and so it'd be interesting to know why he didn't see the film when it opened. With his two million followers, those tweets at the time could have been enough to get more word of mouth, and even nudge Dredd up a chart position or two. Now, though, he just comes across as yet another of the screaming mob who should have gotten off their arses to see the film during its cinema run.


Kevin Smith is responsible for a lot of things, Dredd's box-office however, was not his remit. I never went to see Red State or any of his other films so he can tweet what he wants, it won't bother me and I won't castigate his for telling his fans he liked the film.




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 March, 2013, 11:53:50 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 26 March, 2013, 09:41:08 PM
Wasn't IRON MAN, even as a second tier Marvel character, still massively more well known than Dredd?


The fact that Robert Downey Jnr., John Favreau and Marvel were behind a well-known Marvel character would help attract a huge audience, I would think.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 27 March, 2013, 07:33:35 AM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 26 March, 2013, 09:41:08 PM
Sure District 9 did well (or did it?) but that doesn't automatically mean all similar films will do well.

District 9 is a poster child how to sell a low budget movie to the masses; it was a meagre sci-fi movie ($30 million budget) with an unknown director and an unknown cast and Sony sold it perfectly in advance with their "humans only" campaign and teaser trailers well before release

(http://www.moviepilot.de/files/images/0206/0968/img_6270_article.jpg)

When it got closer to release they ramped up made it clear that Peter Jackson the director of Lord of the Rings was producer which made even more people take notice.

What resulted was a $210 million at the box office and incrediblly healthy home video sales. All this could of easily been applied to Dredd with Alex "28 Days Later" Garland, maybe some clever Megacity "end times" teasers, judgement is coming, get the british press behind their creations, play down the 3D, I don't even think this is a case of hindsight either, all of us was asking where the publicity and song was around release and even well prior. You don't need to have a big ad budget to sell a movie, you just have to be smart, use social media, use hype, chose an angle and push it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 27 March, 2013, 08:44:21 AM
Please let's not go over all this again...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 March, 2013, 08:48:10 AM


They're practicing for the sequel.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 27 March, 2013, 08:49:49 AM
broken down record
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 27 March, 2013, 11:30:06 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 March, 2013, 11:50:13 PMI won't castigate his for telling his fans he liked the film.
Nor would I. It's just a *headdesk* when someone like Smith—directly involved in the industry—is yelling "why didn't more people see this?" and "why aren't they making more?", when he's raving about it three months after the shiny disc came out. I wonder if he saw Dark Knight and Avengers at the flicks or tweeted about them a few months after they showed up on rental.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 27 March, 2013, 11:36:58 AM
Even if I'd never heard of Judge Dredd, the word of mouth on the film, the comparisons to John Carpenter/District 9, and the fact that DNA/Garland were involved would have been more than enough to convince me to go see it opening day.

It does seem odd to me that so many self-confessed comic book movie nerds are only just now discovering the film. Have they not had access to the internet for the last 6 months or something?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 27 March, 2013, 12:56:22 PM
Quite. Many people have complained for years about the gradual dumbing down of action movies, and the way they're overtly sanitised, to make them palatable for kids. They've been screaming out for something smart, tight, edgy, action-packed and entertaining. Dredd comes along and they're not interested and go and see Looper and Resident Evil instead, largely ending up split on the former and inevitably disappointed in the latter. Both movies make a shed-load of cash, and Dredd bombs. Now they're all "man, I wish I'd gone to see it" and "why won't those idiots make a sequel?" Well, probably because the box office take was miserable and even with subsequent strong rental/home market sales, no-one in their right mind would risk a second theatrical effort. It also puts a spanner in the works for anyone considering any kind of similar movie.

I'll make exceptions for those who can't stomach 3D, note. I very nearly stayed away myself because of that. (Fortunately, I was OK with the 3D and Mrs G was only minimally woozy from it.) But for everyone else (and especially those who love the 3D on the Blu-ray): GAH.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 March, 2013, 02:38:49 PM

Quote from: radiator on 27 March, 2013, 11:36:58 AM
It does seem odd to me that so many self-confessed comic book movie nerds are only just now discovering the film. Have they not had access to the internet for the last 6 months or something?


It doesn't come as a surprise that Dredd has generally been an ignored character by most of the world, even comic-nerds, in the wake of Marvel and DC's dominance at the cinema. The little interest that was paid to the idea of another film before the San Diego screening indicated that most people had either forgotten Dredd was still around or had never heard of it.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 27 March, 2013, 02:51:57 PM
QuoteIt doesn't come as a surprise that Dredd has generally been an ignored character by most of the world, even comic-nerds, in the wake of Marvel and DC's dominance at the cinema. The little interest that was paid to the idea of another film before the San Diego screening indicated that most people had either forgotten Dredd was still around or had never heard of it.

Yes, but my point was:

QuoteEven if I'd never heard of Judge Dredd, the word of mouth on the film, the comparisons to John Carpenter/District 9, and the fact that DNA/Garland were involved would have been more than enough to convince me to go see it opening day.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 March, 2013, 03:05:35 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 27 March, 2013, 12:56:22 PM
Quite. Many people have complained for years about the gradual dumbing down of action movies, and the way they're overtly sanitised, to make them palatable for kids. They've been screaming out for something smart, tight, edgy, action-packed and entertaining. Dredd comes along and they're not interested and go and see Looper and Resident Evil instead, largely ending up split on the former and inevitably disappointed in the latter. Both movies make a shed-load of cash, and Dredd bombs. Now they're all "man, I wish I'd gone to see it" and "why won't those idiots make a sequel?" Well, probably because the box office take was miserable and even with subsequent strong rental/home market sales, no-one in their right mind would risk a second theatrical effort. It also puts a spanner in the works for anyone considering any kind of similar movie.


I think it's mainly middle-aged fans who complain about the 'dumbing' or toning down of genre pictures - they remember the 70's/80's - as in those with families or lives that distract them from activities like going to the cinema by themselves. You can take the family, or even a date, to Avengers and the Dark Knight, you can't take them to Dredd. R-rated sci-fi action films are the new Western - they won't die but there'll be fewer and aimed at an older audience. It's very hard to gauge just how many are saying: "man, I wish I'd gone to see it" and "why won't those idiots make a sequel?" and also how many new fans were old enough to see Dredd at the cinema. Sometimes that's just how things are and certain films fall between stools. Humans - older ones especially - are shallow, fickle creatures, and even though they say things like "man, I wish I'd gone to see it", given another oppurtuinity they may do exactly the same.


As for Dredd's box-office putting a spanner in the works, I wouldn't be so sure:

http://collider.com/deadpool-movie-details-rhett-reese-paul-wernick/


Of course it's a different ball-game with the Yanks and their own characters where there'll always be an interest.


Unless Dredd maintains its current trajectory and manages to build an audience, it will go back to being a relatively anonymous foreign property ignored by the industry that's too busy looking for the next crossover thing instead.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 March, 2013, 03:16:06 PM
Quote from: radiator on 27 March, 2013, 02:51:57 PMEven if I'd never heard of Judge Dredd, the word of mouth on the film, the comparisons to John Carpenter/District 9, and the fact that DNA/Garland were involved would have been more than enough to convince me to go see it opening day.
[/quote]

Likewise, but I feel we're a small audience within a larger mass labelled the 'nerd'.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 27 March, 2013, 04:09:50 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 March, 2013, 03:05:35 PM
that's too busy looking for the next crossover thing instead.

Maybe we'll see a Dredd crossover?  :D

Dredd vs. 28 Days later zombies.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 27 March, 2013, 06:23:02 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 March, 2013, 03:05:35 PMYou can take the family, or even a date, to Avengers and the Dark Knight
Perhaps that's it. Depressing, though, that, as ever, it's fine to normalise many, many deaths, as long as we don't show any relatively realistic ramifications. I don't mind that so much in something like Star Wars (which is ultimately a movie for children), but it's a bit rich when you're heading into gritty and supposedly realistic territory that Dark Knight lives in. All those people died? At least there was no blood! PHEW!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 March, 2013, 08:01:37 PM


This is how you get sequels made while losing money: create a cult ideology (Objectivism/Randism) that is highly attractive to rich evangelical capitalists who think it explains and justifies their greed -


John Aglialoro (born November 27, 1943) is an American businessman and film producer. He has been profiled by Forbes and Fortune magazines and was praised in a Forbes blog post. On April 15, 2011, the film version of Atlas Shrugged, Part 1, premiered in 299 selected cities throughout the United States. After almost two decades and several attempts to persuade studios, Aglialoro launched Atlas into production independently through Atlas Productions, LLC. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Aglialoro)


Atlas Shrugged Pt. 1 - cost $20 million and made $4million at the box-office - % of which is taken by theatres.

Atlas Shrugged Pt. 2 - cost $10 million and made $3 million at the box-office - % of which is taken by theatres.

Atlas Shrugged Pt. 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9oWW3yHuAQ) - in pre-production.


Admirable.


For a group of people so dedicated to capitalism, they don't know how it works.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 27 March, 2013, 08:44:37 PM
It's Ayn Rand Joe.

She knows we little people just can't appreciate the sacrifice of our Social superiors. Being despised by the mob is a status symbol for these Alpha types. The fact that their dirge to the Superman went unappreciated by the great unwashed merely confirms in their own minds the 'rightness' [see what I did there!] of their Film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 27 March, 2013, 09:03:12 PM
Oh bloody hell like we don't hear enough of Rand's corporate fucking cheerleading via the media.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 27 March, 2013, 09:07:19 PM
I suupose it depends what you are looking out for.

I knew feck all about District 9 and saw no advertising for it until it appeared on a 3 box set I bought with Knowing and Moon (both of which I had heard about and seen advertising for)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 27 March, 2013, 09:29:18 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 26 March, 2013, 12:28:48 PM
A Titan trip for the marketing people?

That's harsh. After all, they could only work with what they got and what they got was a pretty niche product.  i.e. science fiction, no marquee name stars, no marquee name director/producer, violent and gory, 18 rated, no real traction from comic (except in UK), baggage from previous film, no face to put on posters, dark humour, grim setting, no splashy visuals...

Some of those were things that could not be altered but I'm pretty sure it wasn't marketing that made all of the decisions and each one could have had an effect on Box Office.

Harsh but fair  ;) Unless it was their first day on the job they couldn't blame hindsight either.

Science fiction is mainstream now, Karl Urban and Lana Headley are hardly unknowns, Alex Garland should have been highlighted more with his credits, Saw was violent and gory, distance wasn't made from the previous film with better trailers, it had great faces to put on alternate posters,especially Anderson, it had some great dark humour and I would say 'spectacular visuals' which could have been trailed to far better effect.
This list goes on, 3D in the film name, lack of an internet campaign, no big Premier here or in the US.
Okay lack of funds was a small partial excuse, lets say 19years on Titan  :|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 27 March, 2013, 09:46:16 PM
Isn't the minimum 20?

AUTOMATIC FAIL
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 27 March, 2013, 11:58:54 PM
Quote from: Stan on 27 March, 2013, 09:46:16 PM
Isn't the minimum 20?

AUTOMATIC FAIL

Now that is harsh, I was giving them a year off.Mheh maybe your right a hard 20 it is  ;) :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 March, 2013, 12:20:43 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 27 March, 2013, 08:44:37 PM
It's Ayn Rand Joe.

She knows we little people just can't appreciate the sacrifice of our Social superiors. Being despised by the mob is a status symbol for these Alpha types. The fact that their dirge to the Superman went unappreciated by the great unwashed merely confirms in their own minds the 'rightness' [see what I did there!] of their Film.


It's not her I'm worried about, it's the idiots who can't think for themselves or see the flaws along with the pertinent things in her work.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/atlas-shrugged-part-3-hit-431005
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 March, 2013, 02:00:12 AM



Jameson Empire Awards 2013 - The Art Of 3D - Dredd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGMGa56JwLM)




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 28 March, 2013, 09:22:51 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 March, 2013, 02:00:12 AM



Jameson Empire Awards 2013 - The Art Of 3D - Dredd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGMGa56JwLM)

Cool, cheers for that!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 28 March, 2013, 07:52:51 PM
 a little light relief
-----------------------
found this little video montage online Dredd 3D and Judge Minty   
GOD   anderson is soooo Sexy     (((WATCH IT))))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd0ZgxrAeZc

:o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mididoctors on 28 March, 2013, 08:47:22 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 March, 2013, 08:01:37 PM



Admirable.


For a group of people so dedicated to capitalism, they don't know how it works.

wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't a utter pile of shite.. indulging in a loss making venture because it's your passion is ok I guess  BUT
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 March, 2013, 10:27:07 PM
Happy days as my parents hadn't see Dredd yet!
(to be fair, not see my parents till Xmas!) But how to get them to watch it, as mum don't like extreme violence! Mmmmmm! But they got 3D TV! Also told them I featured in the film three times! Threeeee times!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 28 March, 2013, 11:54:11 PM
14:51 'Fatties Rule'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 29 March, 2013, 12:27:18 PM
We really should start a dedicated thread listing every single Easter egg, forum shout out and background detail.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 29 March, 2013, 12:36:28 PM
it would be good if somebody could collect it all and put in  the first post of the topic  ... but if we had an edit button  it would be far more helpful
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 29 March, 2013, 04:33:44 PM
Yeah, would be a cool thing to have on a dvd if they ever did a special edition down the road.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 March, 2013, 10:22:42 PM

Just finished watch Dredd with dad, he likes it, mum didn't like the violence from the hotshot moment! haha...

watch it in 3D at their TV looks bloody awesome! And Dredd still the perfect film again! Never boring me as watch it about 30th times!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 01 April, 2013, 05:46:41 AM
Good Morning TV has announced that Karl Urban is to reprise his role as the titular law enforcer for a new C4 mini series to be scheduled for sometime in 2015. Best news all year and it came from Holly Willowbooby!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 April, 2013, 06:51:03 AM
More effort next time, please  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 01 April, 2013, 07:13:42 AM
Damn found out within one reply  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 01 April, 2013, 08:23:39 AM
Not a raised eye brow in sight. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 April, 2013, 01:08:05 PM

They just greenlit another sequel to GI Joe, it not April fools!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 01 April, 2013, 03:40:25 PM
Oh gawd, in the first one they flattened central Paris, destroy London in the second, Berlin next?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 01 April, 2013, 03:56:04 PM
Sob, but it did make fifty mill in its opening weekend. Double.sob!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 01 April, 2013, 04:11:07 PM
Un-frickin-believable.  >:(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 01 April, 2013, 05:50:18 PM
I'm gonna get shot down for this but I do quite enjoy the GIJ movies on a dumb yet no offencive level (unlike Transformers trilogy) so can see a sequel being viable. Still, where losing out in retrospect here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 01 April, 2013, 11:01:15 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 01 April, 2013, 05:46:41 AM
Good Morning TV has announced that Karl Urban is to reprise his role as the titular law enforcer for a new C4 mini series to be scheduled for sometime in 2015. Best news all year and it came from Holly Willowbooby!
BASTARD i fell for it to haha :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 02 April, 2013, 12:01:08 AM
Ha ha ¦~)-
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Muon on 02 April, 2013, 01:40:51 PM
Going back to Kevin Smith's praise for Dredd, he started his most recent "Hollywood Babylon" podcast by going on about how good it is, but it fell a bit flat unfortunately. A few members of the audience cheered when he mentioned it, but his co-host Ralph Garman didn't seem to want to talk about it because, as he said, "we were all talking about it six months ago!" So Kevin Smith then seemed a bit nonplussed and then started talking about something else  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Muon on 02 April, 2013, 01:49:07 PM
Also, I may as well give my final "report" from Japan, where I live. As I wrote before, the movie had quite a limited release here, showing at only 20 screens out of over 3,000 nationwide. I saw it three times overall (and enjoyed it even more each time). It was showing for about a month, and I guess some cinemas stopped showing it before the month was up. The last time I saw it was right in the last week. By this time they were showing only daytime showings, but luckily there was a national holiday that week, so I got to see it. There was quite a healthy crowd on that day - probably more than on the day of its release. I had been expecting to be the only one in the whole cinema. Another thing that surprised me that there were a lot of couples seeing it this time, whereas the first time it had been only men. I guess some guys who'd already seen it liked it so much that they dragged their girlfriends to see it.  :D In all, I guess it didn't set the box office alight, but the turnout was actually better than I expected. And I'm sure the lucky few who got to see the film fucking loved it like me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 02 April, 2013, 04:35:43 PM
Thanks, Richey. Maybe the Anderson effect had something to do with people bringing their girlfriends along?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 April, 2013, 04:52:01 PM
A friend of mine in Japan finally got to see the film when it came out over there. I was almost a little apprehensive to hear his opinion as unlike when the film came out in the UK when there was little to no buzz about it, he's been hearing nothing but good things as the film's cult has grown over the intervening months. He absolutely loved it, which was pleasing.

Re: the girl thing - of all my friends who saw the film, two out of the three who enjoyed it the most were female.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 02 April, 2013, 05:15:58 PM
Quote from: radiator on 02 April, 2013, 04:52:01 PMRe: the girl thing - of all my friends who saw the film, two out of the three who enjoyed it the most were female.
That's what happens when films have women in roles that aren't patronising/eye candy/tokens. The majority of other films (and especially comic-book adaptations) would do well to remember that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Muon on 03 April, 2013, 01:09:13 PM
Quote from: radiator on 02 April, 2013, 04:52:01 PM
A friend of mine in Japan finally got to see the film when it came out over there. I was almost a little apprehensive to hear his opinion as unlike when the film came out in the UK when there was little to no buzz about it, he's been hearing nothing but good things as the film's cult has grown over the intervening months. He absolutely loved it, which was pleasing.

Yeah, that's exactly the way my experience went. When I first heard there was going to be a 3D Judge Dredd film I have to admit my expectations were pretty low. Then when it came out in the UK and US and I saw reviews of it, my expectations sky-rocketed. The reviews that praised it seemed to praise it for exactly the same reasons I would enjoy a comic book movie (simple plot, stylishness without pretentiousness, etc.), while the negative reviewers either seemed to dislike it for reasons I considered unimportant (lack of unnecessarily convoluted plot, etc.) or just came across like complete twats. By the time it came out here anything less than the most enjoyable action movie I'd seen for about 20 years would have been a disappointment. And then the movie actually managed to exceed my expectations.  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 April, 2013, 01:55:27 PM
Quote(lack of unnecessarily convoluted plot, etc.)

I've been having a debate/argument on another site with someone who thinks that the Stallone Dredd movie is far better than the new one because it has a 'much more interesting plot', and the new film has 'no plot' and is 'just Dredd shooting people'.

Sadly, it seems that the norm for blockbusters now is a running time of at least two hours - often longer - and a dense, convoluted, often hard to follow plot. I feel that a lot of people mistake this bloatedness for depth. To me, overcomplexity of plot in this type of film suggests either creative compromise or a lack of confidence in the story. I'd point to Prometheus, The Dark Knight Rises and The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey as examples of this. Never mind conciseness, consistency, economy - just so long as we're being pounded with lots of expensive-looking effects and an overwhelming amount of ideas and characters.

For me, Dredd really hit that sweet spot of having a tight, simple script, and it is beyond irritating to me that people are comparing it to something like The Dark Knight Rises and dismissing it as having 'no plot'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Muon on 03 April, 2013, 03:13:42 PM
Quote from: radiator on 03 April, 2013, 01:55:27 PM
Quote(lack of unnecessarily convoluted plot, etc.)

I've been having a debate/argument on another site with someone who thinks that the Stallone Dredd movie is far better than the new one because it has a 'much more interesting plot', and the new film has 'no plot' and is 'just Dredd shooting people'.

Sadly, it seems that the norm for blockbusters now is a running time of at least two hours - often longer - and a dense, convoluted, often hard to follow plot. I feel that a lot of people mistake this bloatedness for depth. To me, overcomplexity of plot in this type of film suggests either creative compromise or a lack of confidence in the story. I'd point to Prometheus, The Dark Knight Rises and The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey as examples of this. Never mind conciseness, consistency, economy - just so long as we're being pounded with lots of expensive-looking effects and an overwhelming amount of ideas and characters.

For me, Dredd really hit that sweet spot of having a tight, simple script, and it is beyond irritating to me that people are comparing it to something like The Dark Knight Rises and dismissing it as having 'no plot'.

Exactly! I've been thinking for years now that filmmakers seem to have forgotten that simplicity and conciseness have just as much value as complexity, and more value when the complexity serves no particular purpose except to make the film seem deeper. In all other forms of storytelling, particular written fiction, storytellers get criticized if their stories are unnecessarily bloated, but current filmmakers always seem to get away with it. It's like the audience has been collectively brainwashed into believing that more running time and more "plot" (which usually boils down to tacking on a couple of meaningless twists and having a load of boring exposition) is always good.

Being a fan of short stories, I'm a big believer in what is sometimes called the principle of Chekhov's gun. You probably know of it, but basically there's a quote usually attributed to Chekhov that goes something like: if you describe a gun mounted on the wall at some point, the gun must be fired later on in the story. Everything must be there to advance the story, and anything that doesn't have a clear point is just flab that should be removed. We could perhaps update the principle for action movies and call it "Dredd's gun": if Dredd has a gun, it must be fired multiple times, preferably with a shot to the face  :P

A related bugbear of mine, particularly with comic book films and general action films, is the copious amounts of unnecessary exposition you always get. Any budding writer of fiction is always told over and over again to "show not tell." Its a basic concept of fiction! If you want to portray someone experiencing an emotion, don't have the character say "I'm really angry"; show that the character is angry through their behaviour. To me, that's what makes Dredd superior to something like The Dark Knight. Whereas one disapproving glance at Anderson in the elevator from Dredd speaks volumes and tells the viewer all he needs to know, someone like Nolan would probably have Dredd make a ten-minute speech about how disappointed he is in Anderson, and how it's not the kind of behaviour he expects from a judge, and how his leg hurts and how tortured he is and yadda yadda yadda.   
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 April, 2013, 03:14:57 PM
Judge Dredd (1995) had a plot, but it had was poorly executed without any attempt to retain the character's integrity or translate what made the character so interesting in the first place-unlike Dredd (2012).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 April, 2013, 03:33:30 PM
QuoteA related bugbear of mine, particularly with comic book films and general action films, is the copious amounts of unnecessary exposition you always get. Any budding writer of fiction is always told over and over again to "show not tell." Its a basic concept of fiction! If you want to portray someone experiencing an emotion, don't have the character say "I'm really angry"; show that the character is angry through their behaviour. To me, that's what makes Dredd superior to something like The Dark Knight. Whereas one disapproving glance at Anderson in the elevator from Dredd speaks volumes and tells the viewer all he needs to know

Oh, absolutely. In Dredd, we get that brilliant opening v/o ("The streets, the gang, the gun") that lasts for one or two minutes and really feels like it has been crafted and honed to be as lean as possible, and that's pretty much all the exposition and backstory we get. It tells the audience everything they need to know, and then we're off. Almost everything else (aside from the introduction of the Mama Clan) is told through character's actions. We learn about this world by experiencing it.

Every setup in the script has an appropriate payoff - for example the close up of the lawgiver early on, accompanied by that cool signature sound and the 'ID Check OK', which comes into play at the end of the film with Kay. It's just good writing. It feels like an authoured script that has been crafted, not like a Frankenstein's monster that passes for a script in most modern genre movies. I'm not saying it's a work of literature, but it works.

Compare with something like Prometheus which as a film is (IMO) broken. In that film the lead character picks up an axe to defend herself, we even get a close up of the axe. Then she gets attacked by the alien, and immediately drops the axe. It's poor storytelling pure and simple. It's a film chock full of scenes and characters that are entirely redundant. The scene with the big exploding head? What did that have to do with anything?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 April, 2013, 03:35:38 PM
Quote from: radiator on 03 April, 2013, 03:33:30 PM
Oh, absolutely. In Dredd, we get that brilliant opening v/o ("The streets, the gang, the gun") that lasts for one or two minutes and really feels like it has been crafted and honed to be as lean as possible, and that's pretty much all the exposition and backstory we get. It tells the audience everything they need to know, and then we're off. Almost everything else (aside from the introduction of the Mama Clan) is told through character's actions. We learn about this world by experiencing it.

Every setup in the script has an appropriate payoff - for example the close up of the lawgiver early on, accompanied by that cool signature sound and the 'ID Check OK', which comes into play at the end of the film with Kay. It's just good writing. It feels like an authoured script that has been crafted, not like a Frankenstein's monster that passes for a script in most modern genre movies. I'm not saying it's a work of literature, but it works.

Compare with something like Prometheus which as a film is (IMO) broken. In that film the lead character picks up an axe to defend herself, we even get a close up of the axe. Then she gets attacked by the alien, and immediately drops the axe. It's poor storytelling pure and simple. It's a film chock full of scenes and characters that are entirely redundant. The scene with the big exploding head? What did that have to do with anything?

THIS! Better than many films in last 10 years!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklambo on 03 April, 2013, 10:39:29 PM
Watched it again tonight....really feel that visually MaMa's death scene is metaphorically like watching a falling angel.....passing down from above through the clouds into the hell below...also her blood splat as she lands reminds me of the red sections in a judges helmet as it spreads outs.....(just my observations)....This definitely now counts as the most watched film by me for 30 years....!...notice different moments each time I watch it....cinematography/sound are on another level with perfect comic references/pallets throughout.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 05 April, 2013, 05:27:39 PM
Tom Cruise's latest features him wearing a fitted leather jacket with a nehru collar, goretex inserts, and panels of body armour - including a right shoulder pad bearing the insignia of the organisation to which he belongs. Which seems familiar (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOHeuMpL2CU):

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSMuAmBkbxt8oaV1kak57Zyvxvs203dDfikZXdYbOAt_aQq1g061Q)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 April, 2013, 05:48:51 PM


Happened to bump into him the other day; he wasn't wearing his JIMP suit.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 05 April, 2013, 09:51:10 PM
Finally got around to watching the DVD. I really do enjoy this movie. The director did a great job. In every scene, you know exactly who is where, who's in the line of fire, and who is safe in cover. For all the chaos in some of the scenes, it's never confusing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 05 April, 2013, 09:55:02 PM
No edit button: The fact that I said I enjoyed that aspect of the movie is a huge indictment of the modern action movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 05 April, 2013, 10:13:25 PM
You know,nthats a really good point.  Wherever Dredd or Anderson aim, that's where the bullet hits.  How many action films have we seen where the shots fired from the gun don't seem to accurately represent where they're actually going to hit? Commando is a perfect example - Arnie aims horizontally, yet all the bad guys on a roof mysteriously die..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 05 April, 2013, 10:14:09 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 05 April, 2013, 05:48:51 PM
Happened to bump into him the other day; he wasn't wearing his JIMP suit.

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSx8g0abGbG4HDai-bxUzaIoB9KJaO4qiI1dH4jRrnUoD8EqFM7) (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSXrKDnNYv_MSuG-2jPQShNM_bCXB6BrPEypCokeCitODTHUoWO)


(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUt6YNuQbrsaSzDcbI6CrRRoE40WbA4bR8q86hZDuw93ZqBiuP) (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYasxA_2C9-52dNaARuPH9dLdFyEIwv6m9Xn1vFn1-7RU8b5hS)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 April, 2013, 10:15:36 PM


So Cruise'll be Orlok in the sequel.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 April, 2013, 10:16:25 PM
Yep but Urban looks coolest in it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 April, 2013, 10:20:53 PM

Def, many brilliant moments in the film.

Even this moment when Anderson is the Anderson as we knew!

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/c82345e8871b4c99c236bf3df714030e/tumblr_mgh14kTyOO1rg42e0o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mabs on 05 April, 2013, 10:25:35 PM
Wow. She looks like a young Jodie Foster there!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 05 April, 2013, 10:27:59 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 05 April, 2013, 10:15:36 PM


So Cruise'll be Orlok in the sequel.
Make it happen!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 April, 2013, 10:28:55 PM
Is there a Judge Dredd film coming out?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 April, 2013, 10:31:59 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 April, 2013, 10:28:55 PM
Is there a Judge Dredd film coming out?

Yep it was in 1995!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 05 April, 2013, 10:32:49 PM
I can't believe that we've achieved 684 - yes SIX HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FOUR - pages on this thread.


Or that if I hadn't been bypassing it back then to avoid then I could've been immortalised in graffiti in the movie.



Not bitter
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 05 April, 2013, 10:34:03 PM
and why does this thread not allow edits? Insert the word "spoilers" at the most appropriate point in the above post.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 05 April, 2013, 10:34:41 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 April, 2013, 10:28:55 PM
Is there a Judge Dredd film coming out?

They're making a sequel, haven't you heard?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 April, 2013, 10:37:40 PM
Because it is the thread that will NEVER DIE  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 April, 2013, 10:38:05 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 13 September, 2011, 02:22:33 PM
I know it odd subject to bring up in this topic, as I am on break in Newquay all week enjoy the sun and strong winds!
As it was 8 hours train to there last Sunday, I was watch dvds, one is Star Trek (still brilliant film!) which I hadnt see in while. And can see that Karl Urban as McCoy, as watch him talks and acting with imagine the Judge Helmet on him, that a Dredd there! Looking forward to Dredd in a year!

OOh I post that in 2011 on 2nd page of this thread, and I was right, Urban is the DREDD!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 April, 2013, 10:45:49 PM
And another perfect beautiful moment in Dredd! Mega-Blocks looks great in night!

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/dee7c352b484829b790e7364febcfd74/tumblr_mfrlnh6q761ql41ypo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 April, 2013, 10:49:10 PM
See what I mean  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 05 April, 2013, 11:23:57 PM
Let my son watch it this evening.
An interesting experience. He's not familiar with Dredd, and was interested in the world of Mega-City 1 than ("Hold on - you can get arrested for being homeless?"). And wants a Lawgiver to use on CoD...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 05 April, 2013, 11:27:04 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 05 April, 2013, 10:13:25 PM
You know,nthats a really good point.  Wherever Dredd or Anderson aim, that's where the bullet hits.  How many action films have we seen where the shots fired from the gun don't seem to accurately represent where they're actually going to hit? Commando is a perfect example - Arnie aims horizontally, yet all the bad guys on a roof mysteriously die..

Yeah, I commented on that when someone posted a bodycount vid. What Dredd shoots, he destroys!

No pointless spraying around of infinite bullets like in many action films.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 05 April, 2013, 11:29:05 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 05 April, 2013, 10:32:49 PM
I can't believe... that if I hadn't been bypassing [this thread] back then I could've been immortalised in graffiti in the movie.

Not bitter.

Yeah... this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 05 April, 2013, 11:34:04 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 05 April, 2013, 11:29:05 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 05 April, 2013, 10:32:49 PM
I can't believe... that if I hadn't been bypassing [this thread] back then I could've been immortalised in graffiti in the movie.

Not bitter.

Yeah... this.

Yeah, but it's a movie that hardly anyone has watched, so... ;-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 06 April, 2013, 08:11:51 AM
Quote from: Stan on 05 April, 2013, 11:27:04 PM

Yeah, I commented on that when someone posted a bodycount vid. What Dredd shoots, he destroys!

No pointless spraying around of infinite bullets like in many action films.
The Mini-Gun scene? Though thinking about its its far more about the destructive nature of Mama's.unbalanced mind that hockey awsomness.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 06 April, 2013, 02:13:08 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 06 April, 2013, 08:11:51 AM
Quote from: Stan on 05 April, 2013, 11:27:04 PM

Yeah, I commented on that when someone posted a bodycount vid. What Dredd shoots, he destroys!

No pointless spraying around of infinite bullets like in many action films.
The Mini-Gun scene? Though thinking about its its far more about the destructive nature of Mama's.unbalanced mind that hockey awsomness.

Well yeah, I was really talking about Dredd and Anderson. The psychopathically induced mini-gun thing was definitely okay in my book.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 April, 2013, 04:23:22 PM
Great review!

http://www.takeonecff.com/2013/dredd (http://www.takeonecff.com/2013/dredd)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 April, 2013, 12:55:08 AM


Tilting at Windmills or Pushing that Sisyphean Rock is such good fun:


(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/561329_639458216071580_1366022901_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Robert Frazer on 07 April, 2013, 05:59:50 AM
Do we have any idea how the DVD/BD sales are breaking down? When the film was on release we were obsessively counting over every single pound spent and were on tenterhooks as it painfully inched towards (and fell short of...) the magical "made back budget" figure, so the extra augment to this from home sales will be important in judging Dredd's final success.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 April, 2013, 10:16:43 AM

This guy's good:

(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/150132_639638646053537_2063402413_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 07 April, 2013, 10:28:29 AM
Quote from: Robert Frazer on 07 April, 2013, 05:59:50 AM
Do we have any idea how the DVD/BD sales are breaking down? When the film was on release we were obsessively counting over every single pound spent and were on tenterhooks as it painfully inched towards (and fell short of...) the magical "made back budget" figure, so the extra augment to this from home sales will be important in judging Dredd's final success.

US sales figures only: http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/charts/annual/2013.php (http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/charts/annual/2013.php)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 April, 2013, 10:32:19 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 April, 2013, 10:16:43 AM

This guy's good:

(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/150132_639638646053537_2063402413_n.jpg)

Animated GIF of a Resyk belt with all those who didn't go to see the movie?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 07 April, 2013, 01:11:45 PM


Animated GIF of a Resyk belt with all those who didn't go to see the movie?
[/quote]

Perfect. Better even than bodies air-dumped in pits beyond the wall.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 07 April, 2013, 02:03:38 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 07 April, 2013, 10:32:19 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 April, 2013, 10:16:43 AM

This guy's good:

(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/150132_639638646053537_2063402413_n.jpg)

Animated GIF of a Resyk belt with all those who didn't go to see the movie?
Plus critics who gave it a negative review. If such methods is good enough for Willow...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Trout on 07 April, 2013, 03:11:57 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 07 April, 2013, 02:03:38 PM
Plus critics who gave it a negative review. If such methods is good enough for Willow...

Maybe they didn't like it. That's OK. People have opinions.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 07 April, 2013, 03:17:40 PM
Quote from: Trout on 07 April, 2013, 03:11:57 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 07 April, 2013, 02:03:38 PM
Plus critics who gave it a negative review. If such methods is good enough for Willow...

Maybe they didn't like it. That's OK. People have opinions.
Ok, maybe just Tookey then. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Trout on 07 April, 2013, 03:21:24 PM
Maybe you should add me to your hate mail. I haven't bought the film. I may never get around to it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 07 April, 2013, 03:53:06 PM
Quote from: Trout on 07 April, 2013, 03:21:24 PM
Maybe you should add me to your hate mail. I haven't bought the film. I may never get around to it.

A quick paralyzin' pizen and onto the Resyk belt for you then!! ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklambo on 07 April, 2013, 03:56:22 PM
Sorry guys...coming up blank on this...I know there was a decent resolution of the first Dredd picture that was shown to us...I think it is this shot...does someone have a decent version of it...
Thanks.... :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 07 April, 2013, 03:59:46 PM
Quote from: Trout on 07 April, 2013, 03:21:24 PM
Maybe you should add me to your hate mail. I haven't bought the film. I may never get around to it.

I'm with Trout on this one. It seems to me that the definition of a good review here seems to be one from someone who likes the movie. Which is, of course, not the case at all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Trout on 07 April, 2013, 04:03:40 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 07 April, 2013, 03:59:46 PM
Quote from: Trout on 07 April, 2013, 03:21:24 PM
Maybe you should add me to your hate mail. I haven't bought the film. I may never get around to it.

I'm with Trout on this one. It seems to me that the definition of a good review here seems to be one from someone who likes the movie. Which is, of course, not the case at all.

Yup. It's not criticism if you slavishly follow the views of others. In my opinion, the fact there was a new Dredd film - great though it was - has at times had a negative effect on 2000AD fandom and this board. I expect it will be good for the comic in the long run, so that's all that matters to me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 April, 2013, 05:07:36 PM
Quote from: Trout on 07 April, 2013, 04:03:40 PM
Yup. It's not criticism if you slavishly follow the views of others.


Knowing the criticisms emanating from this board were being monitored and considered by the film-makers during the production itself; it's a good thing to remind ourselves that nothing is perfect.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 April, 2013, 10:56:04 PM

Just created Alternate poster of Dredd.

(http://i.imgur.com/7ZLcJ9M.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 07 April, 2013, 11:21:01 PM
Ohh that's lovely Goaty but it's huge (on my little monitor).
in reply to some stuff earlier;

Quote from: Richmond Clements on 07 April, 2013, 03:59:46 PM
... It seems to me that the definition of a good review here seems to be one from someone who likes the movie. Which is, of course, not the case at all.
I don't understand; on a six-hundred and eighty-six page long thread, that spans a period of almost two years and that chronicles the hopes, fears, wishes, trepidation, exultation and eventual philisophical resignation of a myriad of enthusiastic fans (of all forms) ... now you complain that people here, on this thread, aren't being objective?

Grudammit, how on earth would you expect them to be?

Quote from: Richmond Clements on 07 April, 2013, 03:59:46 PM
... It seems to me that the definition of a good review here seems to be one from someone who likes the movie. Which is, of course, not the case at all.
I don't understand; on a six-hundred and eighty-six page long thread, that spans a period of almost two years and that chronicles the hopes, fears, wishes, trepidation, exultation and eventual philisophical resignation* of a myriad of enthusiastic fans (of all forms) ... now you complain that people here, on this thread, aren't being objective?

How on earth would you expect them to be?




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 07 April, 2013, 11:25:06 PM
above post in 'Abelard Snazz-o-vision' brought to you by lackofaneditfunction. :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 08 April, 2013, 09:18:13 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 07 April, 2013, 11:25:06 PM
above post in 'Abelard Snazz-o-vision' brought to you by lackofaneditfunction. :'(

Or, to quote the great sage Kryten: ' Now I realise that technically speaking that's only one flaw but I thought that it was such a big one that it was worth mentioning twice. '
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 08 April, 2013, 09:50:17 AM
If you think I haven't mentioned it before, then you haven't been paying attention.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 08 April, 2013, 12:23:41 PM
Sorry mate, just messing around. I was referring to Danmarr accidentally posting it twice. No offence meant. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 April, 2013, 10:50:52 AM

As I was watch Shaun Of The Dead on dvd last night, well enjoyable, and it got Zomb-o-Meter, trivia track featured on the film, I do wish Dredd got that to help us to spot more trivia etc on the film.

That's unlikely to happens so I hope the production company would one day posting the list of trivias for us to check out in the film?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 09 April, 2013, 10:56:39 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 09 April, 2013, 10:50:52 AM
That's unlikely to happens so I hope the production company would one day posting the list of trivias for us to check out in the film?

I reckon this thread has pretty much covered that
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 09 April, 2013, 11:45:33 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 08 April, 2013, 12:23:41 PM
Sorry mate, just messing around. I was referring to Danmarr accidentally posting it twice. No offence meant. :)

Don't panic! It was a reply to Danmarr, not you! :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 10 April, 2013, 04:29:11 PM
Because this thread can never ever die, I'd thought I'd post up a review of sorts,
(sent to me in an email by a friend) it's positive overall without being a stream of sychophantic praise, and I dont agree with all of it, but I thought he made some interesting points, so I thought I'd pop it on here for other folk to peruse or ignore.



..I finally sat down to watch the 'Dredd' last week and i finally made time to type you a missive on the very fella on this very day. Indeed it is a missive, not a dismissive, that i'm jotting up now as I did enjoy the movie very much.

What i liked most about it all was the squalor, the unremitting dirt of it all - not quite Thunderdome or maybe well beyond it.

The general feel of the city was well played and cleverly avoided the hangnail imitation of Bladerunner which dog the look of future dystopias - where Bladerunner gave us neon-night and torrential rain, Dredd gave us sun bleached and dust-choked, Bladerunner's flying cars and industrial-technological plateau, give way to what looks like re-purposed Nissan Sunny's* and an interminable infrastructural apathy, decaying highways sprawling around equally decaying tower-blocks, tower-blocks whose epic sink estate can only serve to aggravate the distance between them and the IKEA-zen-sterility of Bladerunner's corporate interiors.

Its all in that step away from noir to pulp, from Marlowe to Callaghan, from grit to dirt that makes it all so delicious and its turn from city to block that defiantly pulls its ass out of Ridley Scott territory, though maybe only to shuffle it's prospects over to prime eightie's James Cameron real estate. That's one of the joys of Dredd in essence it supposed to be  a movie that is derived from a comic book format, and it does do enough to justify this, but in effect it is really a movie that feeds from that pre-digital paradise of the video tape, it is an homage, a cannibalization, a refitting of the golden era of the action movie, that early eighties, the late night mid-week movie, that VHS thrill all over again.

There is a definite sense of working to a limited means with the whole affair - a few cutaway scenes are shabbily shot and interrupt the sense of disbelief - but on the whole Dredd does make good on its limited means. In fact i'd say some of the major selling points of this movie for me are how it cleverly manages to get around the problem of how to deliver sci-fi on a shoestring without overly compromising itself. The effects are, well, effective, and seem well considered to make the most of otherwise tired digital technology, the city is not overplayed, the sets and vehicles are solid and delightfully clunky, the action has the toughness you would expect, the costumes were worn and credible enough - and the slo-mo effect was a clever piece of film making indeed. It was there in slo-mo that the visual mesh of comic book and film was at its strongest and plot wise its effects were where I found the most intrigue - did slo-mo provide it's users anything beyond their reality? was it more than a visual hallucinogen for them? was it an antidote to megacity life? or was it simple fix for them and a visual patch for the movie?

And there were more than enough patchy moments in Dredd - mainly in the plot devices used to drive the story forwards, inwards and upwards.

There were a few shaky moments which i accepted on merit - the judges initial arrest and subsequent hauling around of Ma-ma's henchman Kay, grand it got the story and gave Anderson a face to compose herself against, relieving Dredd from the foils of being overly-communicative- but boy did it feel so forced. Ma-ma's overreaction of locking down the whole block, neat, keeps it all tense, condensed and familiar but did not chime with the idea of her being a ruthless and calculating kingpin.

Why kill the Judges? 

One shot kill the obviously expendable henchman - she has minions galore surely she could coerce one of them to sacrificing themselves ( or should that be 'himself' were all her hench- peoples hench-men? no hench-women in mamas army?) in a rather blatant assault - surely some lacky could take the shot - take the fall for her: where was her assassin ala Micky Corleone or Fonzie Capone? What about the judges she had corrupted - no joy there? Heck-o why not even fit anyone who could compromise her operation with one of those handy explosive bracelets - just plain sloppy. I think you once said that you felt sorry for her plunging to her rather blatantly just and just blatant end - i'll admit that I could not muster up enough sympathy for her - it just seemed as she said 'predictable' - all too inevitable - a little bit too neat.

When Dredd blows a hole in the wall - rather easily too for a tower thats meant to be on a lockdown against god knows what future war - then again they probably did not build those towers to high spec, which would almost make sense and be sort of consistent - they escape to a high rise skate park, get through to control, radio an emergency, then waltz back into the block because they are too exposed, exposed enough for a helicopter evac perhaps? No flying cars, i'll grant them that, but no airborne support at all? - even the cops in Moyross* have helicopter support. Is this lack of aircraft addressed in the movie's reality at all - i might have missed it.

As i said though, you just have to accept these things on merit - like most classic eightie's action fares don't stop to think 'why?' just grunt and move on to the next action scene - in this it serves itself well and i'm glad that they have finally redeemed the good name of Dredd from the taint of Stallone.

Hope alls well fella,
..........
*Moyross is v.much the 'peach trees' of Limerick.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 April, 2013, 05:08:48 PM
Fair points - thinking about it, it would have been far easier for Mama to just instruct the crooked judges to cap Kay after he was escorted from the building, but I take issue with this bit:

QuoteWhen Dredd blows a hole in the wall - rather easily too for a tower thats meant to be on a lockdown against god knows what future war

Someone pointed this out before, and I'll say that the wall was already significantly weakened by the minigun fire.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 10 April, 2013, 05:12:27 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 April, 2013, 05:08:48 PM
QuoteWhen Dredd blows a hole in the wall - rather easily too for a tower thats meant to be on a lockdown against god knows what future war

Someone pointed this out before, and I'll say that the wall was already significantly weakened by the minigun fire.
We can indeed see that a ray of light has penetrated it, so it's safe to assume that the wall is week enough at that point to be broken through with Hi-Ex.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 10 April, 2013, 05:16:43 PM
Some fair points, to which I'd add that Dredd running out of ammo was always a bit BWUH?, given that he could at any point have grabbed at least a back-up piece from one of the countless goons he shot. Still, for most of the plot holes, it's easy enough to make a counterpoint:

- Why grab Kay? Because the judges do still have some kind of law they adhere to—they're not just shooting everything that moves.

- Ma-Ma's overreaction I took as her arrogance and also the movie's world being one where the judges are seriously overstretched. "Do you know how often we get a judge in Peach Trees?" is a very telling statement. Perhaps Ma-Ma simply underestimates Dredd. But, yeah, it turns out she's not the best strategic thinker in the world. (Mind you, who said she was? Her blitz through the block appeared to mostly be driven by fear and ruthlessness, not calculating cunning.)

- On the skate park, they could have waited about for an air unit, but I imagine Dredd's thinking was that they'd already come under fire from dozens of goons. Sooner or later, someone would have figured out where they were, and there would have been no escape. If the judges are stretched beyond breaking point in the movie, how long would the air support have taken? Five minutes? Half an hour?

Still, as noted in the post, it's first and foremost a movie that keeps its plot barrelling on, and so sometimes it doesn't entirely hold up to scrutiny. That said, Dredd doesn't fall apart the moment you start thinking about it in any depth, unlike, say, the most recent Batman film or Looper, and so that's a good thing!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 10 April, 2013, 05:25:06 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 10 April, 2013, 05:16:43 PM- On the skate park, they could have waited about for an air unit, but I imagine Dredd's thinking was that they'd already come under fire from dozens of goons. Sooner or later, someone would have figured out where they were, and there would have been no escape. If the judges are stretched beyond breaking point in the movie, how long would the air support have taken? Five minutes? Half an hour?

And it was a correct assumption by Dredd seeing as Caleb was picking his way through the rubble with his small gang of cannon fodder.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 April, 2013, 05:26:44 PM
QuoteThat said, Dredd doesn't fall apart the moment you start thinking about it in any depth, unlike, say, the most recent Batman film or Looper, and so that's a good thing!

Don't forget Prometheus.

QuoteWhy grab Kay? Because the judges do still have some kind of law they adhere to—they're not just shooting everything that moves.

Yeah, a lot of people didn't seem to notice that during the raid on the drug den, Dredd only executes those that pull weapons on him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 10 April, 2013, 06:07:04 PM
And one my son pointed out to me: Dredd couldn't "execute Kay on 99%"... but when Anderson does her mind thing on him in the school room, there can be no doubt of his guilt, so why did they not execute him then?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 10 April, 2013, 06:11:42 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 10 April, 2013, 06:07:04 PM
And one my son pointed out to me: Dredd couldn't "execute Kay on 99%"... but when Anderson does her mind thing on him in the school room, there can be no doubt of his guilt, so why did they not execute him then?
Thats...a good question. Hostage situation, possibly bargaining with Ma-Ma?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 10 April, 2013, 06:12:42 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 10 April, 2013, 06:07:04 PM
And one my son pointed out to me: Dredd couldn't "execute Kay on 99%"... but when Anderson does her mind thing on him in the school room, there can be no doubt of his guilt, so why did they not execute him then?

How does what happened in the school room change the situation, though? All they have now is circumstantial evidence about slo-mo. It doesn't make the extra 1%, it just gives them a guide on what they should do.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 10 April, 2013, 06:12:55 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 10 April, 2013, 06:07:04 PM
And one my son pointed out to me: Dredd couldn't "execute Kay on 99%"... but when Anderson does her mind thing on him in the school room, there can be no doubt of his guilt, so why did they not execute him then?

Why can there be "no doubt of his guilt"? - There's no difference between her vision of him skinning the victim or her vision of the slo-mo factory - It's useful intelligence, but Dredd won't execute on the basis of a vison as there was still that 1% chance she was wrong. He still plans on taking him back for more traditional interrogation.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 10 April, 2013, 06:13:39 PM
Also, if Anderson doesn't have the equivalent of a photographic memory (after being in his head just once,)- wont they need him for detailed questioning as a source of further arrests?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 April, 2013, 06:14:19 PM
Still need to apply existing laws rather than make them up on the hoof based on what Mystic Cass says.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 10 April, 2013, 06:19:26 PM
Anybody wonder what the miniguns were used for normally? It's a serious bit of kit to have lying around on the off-chance you might need it rip through a building (almost all the way through it's nuke proof exterior).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 April, 2013, 06:23:03 PM
QuoteWhy can there be "no doubt of his guilt"? - There's no difference between her vision of him skinning the victim or her vision of the slo-mo factory - It's useful intelligence, but Dredd won't execute on the basis of a vison as there was still that 1% chance she was wrong. He still plans on taking him back for more traditional interrogation.

Yeah, he'd have detailed information that could bring down not just Mama, but many affiliates, corrupt judges etc. They know they need to take him alive by that point. By the end of the film it's all academic anyway as the Mama Clan has been taken apart.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 10 April, 2013, 06:23:48 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 10 April, 2013, 06:19:26 PM
Anybody wonder what the miniguns were used for normally? It's a serious bit of kit to have lying around on the off-chance you might need it rip through a building (almost all the way through it's nuke proof exterior).
Gang crime. She's the top dog in her secter, if anyone will have them, she will.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 April, 2013, 06:27:39 PM
QuoteAnybody wonder what the miniguns were used for normally? It's a serious bit of kit to have lying around on the off-chance you might need it rip through a building (almost all the way through it's nuke proof exterior).

They could potentially have had an establishing scene of Mama getting the techie to hack into the guns (some sort of automated defence system linked to the security lockdown perhaps). Maybe something a bit oblique as to not ruin the surprise - as with the "Call 911" line.

The bigger plothole for me was how was Mama going to explain all that death and destruction once the smoke cleared. Guess we just have to assume that no one would have testified against her as she rules the block through fear.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 10 April, 2013, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 April, 2013, 06:27:39 PM
as with the "Call 911" line.

That just reminded me - it's the one line in the film that I really disliked, as it makes it sound too contemporary - 'call the judges', or 'call Justice dept' would have worked just as well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 April, 2013, 06:32:01 PM
She could have been being deliberately retro!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 10 April, 2013, 06:37:13 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 April, 2013, 06:32:01 PM
She could have been being deliberately retro!
"I don't need the cops, I don't need no miniguns! I'm guuna killa ya!"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 10 April, 2013, 07:05:01 PM
If they're part of the block's defences- (like the blast doors are part of the block's defences) then they're a very different type of defence than the blast doors are, I mean, I can imagine all the city blocks having the 4-minute warning shut-down magic shutters, but guns like those are for a whole different attack scenario.
And if they're just some sort of status-weapon for the 'Queen pin' of slo-mo then they're a bit big, a bit mad, and a bit unweildy and a bit impossible-to-hide-and-more-incriminating-than-it's worth for that job too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 April, 2013, 07:10:23 PM
They don't get many Judges round her block and if she did have a report going in on her I'm sure the corrupt Judges would see her okay, simples!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 10 April, 2013, 07:14:03 PM
But if they're never used then that seems like impractical hassle,- and if they are ever used what are they used for?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 April, 2013, 07:17:03 PM
We have Trident!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 10 April, 2013, 07:19:41 PM
 :lol: but there'd be no point in Trident if nobody knows you have it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 April, 2013, 07:23:22 PM
I reckon they're from the Citi-Def unit that she probably runs as well!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 10 April, 2013, 07:27:42 PM
Then here is another point where worlds of the comic and the film match up exactly: citi-def is a liabilty!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 April, 2013, 08:04:17 PM
Correct CF, as Corrupt Judges arrives at the block, they talks about set up the scene, get one of bodies shoot Dredd etc... just before Med guy arrived.



Mini-Guns, could be usefully for block wars?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 April, 2013, 08:14:04 PM
Well, if the blocks weren't miles apart...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 10 April, 2013, 08:17:03 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 10 April, 2013, 08:14:04 PM
Well, if the blocks weren't miles apart...

:D Peeee-ow!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 April, 2013, 08:17:19 PM
on the grounds?

At the start, there was the drug dealers from Sternhammer? so Sternhammer block?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 April, 2013, 08:21:02 PM
If one Citi-Def unit attacked another block then they could deploy the guns on the skateboard parks and blast away as they approached. Just like when those CF Block heroes attacked that PETE WELLS Block in the prog ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 April, 2013, 08:22:51 PM

Good thinking, CF, so that skateboard parks also an Cit-Def positions?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 April, 2013, 08:26:59 PM
Only against ground troops. Too open against an aerial assault, unless you had some ground to air defences. Then these would have to have a decent targetting distance, so as to protect the crews manning the weapon platforms.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 10 April, 2013, 08:27:09 PM
Is it beyond the realms of imagination that a drug dealer and gang lord might just stockpile weapons as part of their other nefarious schemes?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 April, 2013, 08:31:00 PM
So they are hording them for the sequel, thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 April, 2013, 08:31:34 PM
They're there to keep out any potential TV crews offering to give her apartment a makeover.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 10 April, 2013, 08:34:16 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 April, 2013, 08:31:00 PM
So they are hording them for the sequel, thanks for the heads up!

Touché :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 10 April, 2013, 08:36:20 PM
Comic Books: Cit-Def had to few weapons and poor man power that is something of a joke.

Movies: Cit-Def had to much fire power and poor man power that is still something of a joke.

Get these sod's up against the wall.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 10 April, 2013, 08:57:47 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 April, 2013, 08:21:02 PM
If one Citi-Def unit attacked another block then they could deploy the guns on the skateboard parks and blast away as they approached. Just like when those CF Block heroes attacked that PETE WELLS Block in the prog ;)

Assuming they're not using 20mm caseless fletcher rounds. That's a long way up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 April, 2013, 09:06:01 PM
Good point but don't those only kill cits :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 10 April, 2013, 10:35:45 PM
Quote from: Stan on 10 April, 2013, 08:57:47 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 April, 2013, 08:21:02 PM
If one Citi-Def unit attacked another block then they could deploy the guns on the skateboard parks and blast away as they approached. Just like when those CF Block heroes attacked that PETE WELLS Block in the prog ;)

Assuming they're not using 20mm caseless fletcher rounds. That's a long way up.

Ooh, you're going to burn in hell for reminding me if THAT film!!!   ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 11 April, 2013, 12:09:58 AM
Just watched Dredd on DVD (it was 3 for 2 at the video shop so I thought I'd give it another go) and enjoyed it quite a bit more than the first time. Think I picked up on a bit more humour this time around and I much preferred seeing it in 2D.

I might be a snob about all sorts of things but video quality certainly isn't one of them. However, even I was struck by the switches between grainy and clear scenes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 April, 2013, 12:45:48 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 10 April, 2013, 10:35:45 PM
Quote from: Stan on 10 April, 2013, 08:57:47 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 April, 2013, 08:21:02 PM
If one Citi-Def unit attacked another block then they could deploy the guns on the skateboard parks and blast away as they approached. Just like when those CF Block heroes attacked that PETE WELLS Block in the prog ;)

Assuming they're not using 20mm caseless fletcher rounds. That's a long way up.

Ooh, you're going to burn in hell for reminding me if THAT film!!!   ;)

Someone had to say it.  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 April, 2013, 05:10:34 PM

Total Film got new Special out, anyone got it as it featured Dredd (sad it said Judge Dredd on the cover which hope it don't featured that 1995's!

Total Film's Ultimate Superhero Movie Special is out today and stuffed full of tons of exclusive superhero/comic book features, interviews and over 170 reviews.

(http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/t/the-ultimate-superhero-movie-special-bookazine-131858-a-1365436667-1000-100.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 April, 2013, 05:25:57 PM
Might have to buy that, did I say might, I meant will!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 11 April, 2013, 07:48:50 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 11 April, 2013, 12:09:58 AM
Just watched Dredd on DVD (it was 3 for 2 at the video shop so I thought I'd give it another go) and enjoyed it quite a bit more than the first time. Think I picked up on a bit more humour this time around and I much preferred seeing it in 2D.

I might be a snob about all sorts of things but video quality certainly isn't one of them. However, even I was struck by the switches between grainy and clear scenes.

Video  shop? What is this? 1988?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 April, 2013, 09:58:09 PM
Dredd 3D Sequel Comic Teased
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/04/11/dredd-3d-sequel-comic-teased

(http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2013/04/11/dredd-cover-with-textjpg-a900aa_640w.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 April, 2013, 11:04:44 PM
I notice Anthrax post a lot of Dredd stuff on their Facebook. More than me anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 12 April, 2013, 01:43:13 AM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 11 April, 2013, 07:48:50 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 11 April, 2013, 12:09:58 AM
Just watched Dredd on DVD (it was 3 for 2 at the video shop so I thought I'd give it another go) and enjoyed it quite a bit more than the first time.
Video  shop? What is this? 1988?
Ha. Hard to believe, but the local Global video is still my first port of call when I know I want to watch a specific new film this evening. The serendipity of browsing is also hard to beat, as with many real shops.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 12 April, 2013, 08:33:01 AM
I shouldn't laugh. I miss proprietor browsing. Made a rare trip to the big HMV on Monday and thoroughly enjoyed the experience despite buying nothing.

We have Lovefilm instant and the selection  is rather like getting to the video shop late on a Friday night.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 12 April, 2013, 02:20:24 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 12 April, 2013, 08:33:01 AM
We have Lovefilm instant and the selection  is rather like getting to the video shop late on a Friday night.
I'm sure I dribbled on about this on the Lovefilm thread a while ago but it bears repeating. Lovefilm's postal service is great for the sheer diversity of stuff you can get on it but, even with their priority rankings, you never know when you'll get it or if you'll fancy watching it at that point. The streaming element is alright if you're the sort of person who doesn't mind looking around for something daft of an evening but lacks big new releases. Which leaves the humble video shop as the best option if I definitely want to watch, say, Silver Linings Playbook again tonight and I'm lucky enough to have one just along the road which has always had a good selection of foreign and kung fu films.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 April, 2013, 05:40:36 PM
I gave that mag a miss Goaty, £9.99 for that! I picked it up, saw nothing new inside and thought, I'll have that for a fiver, looked for the price and then replaced it on the shelving 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 April, 2013, 05:52:12 PM
Bloody hell! Was to get that for long train to Carlisle tonight, I better stick to 2000AD progs! Cheers John!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 April, 2013, 06:15:56 PM

Interesting. As got quick look at that mag at train station before catch the train.

Old photos of Dredd, but it got "four stars" review? Different reviewer? As it was 3 stars in total film mag on cinema and DVD releases, four stars were at the Comic Con screening.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 12 April, 2013, 07:09:12 PM
DVD review? Pathetic change-of-heart, like one mag (possibly Total Film—either that or Empire) did for Phantom Menace?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 April, 2013, 08:42:11 PM
A single reviewer doesn't make a magazine.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 13 April, 2013, 08:18:00 AM
Today's Guardian has a feature on "The 23 best character actors in the world" -Domhall Gleason features at #16 and Olivia Thirlby at #22 - but in the "what you'll have seen them in" bit, they mention Anna Karenina and Juno among others, but neither one mentions Dredd. Typical!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 13 April, 2013, 09:44:48 AM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 13 April, 2013, 08:18:00 AM
Today's Guardian has a feature on "The 23 best character actors in the world" -Domhall Gleason features at #16 and Olivia Thirlby at #22 - but in the "what you'll have seen them in" bit, they mention Anna Karenina and Juno among others, but neither one mentions Dredd. Typical!
Seems fair as nobody actually saw them in it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 April, 2013, 10:55:08 AM
Lists like that really annoy me. I'd prefer it just called it something like 23 character actors, or good character actors, instead of the best.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 17 April, 2013, 03:10:13 PM
another  art cover for  DREDD 3D
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(http://imageshack.us/a/img198/2491/52650623537745660542219.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/52650623537745660542219.jpg/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 17 April, 2013, 03:30:51 PM
Nice addition of Anderson. A pity the UK/US release didn't do the same.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 17 April, 2013, 03:43:30 PM
Never mind Peach Trees,  Ezquerra block seems to have taken right  hammering...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 17 April, 2013, 04:52:58 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 17 April, 2013, 03:43:30 PM
Never mind Peach Trees,  Ezquerra block seems to have taken right  hammering...
You can only defend so much with a moustache and pen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 April, 2013, 01:25:34 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 17 April, 2013, 04:52:58 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 17 April, 2013, 03:43:30 PM
Never mind Peach Trees,  Ezquerra block seems to have taken right  hammering...
You can only defend so much with a moustache and pen.
:)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 April, 2013, 10:18:59 PM

Sorry as been think about this for while, I DO believe that Clan Techie is Chopper.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 19 April, 2013, 10:54:33 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 19 April, 2013, 10:18:59 PM

Sorry as been think about this for while, I DO believe that Clan Techie is Chopper.

Wow. WTF? How? Why?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 April, 2013, 10:59:48 PM

I did think about that till saw it at Dredd screening in London, and check it at cinemas and DVDs with subtitles, he don't got name, and we don't know about him much, only that Ma-Ma takes his eyes, what if Alex Garland has planned to do that to give him brutal beginning on his character in realistic than comic version to became the surfer as we knew?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 19 April, 2013, 11:07:12 PM
'Clan techie' didn't exactly strike me as the irrepressible free-spirit type: after escaping the law once, I can't imagine him doing anything to draw attention to himself again, man seemed thoroughly broken.
- But maybe that's just me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 April, 2013, 11:21:14 PM
You're right, darnmarr, but what if that was to make him grew from it and became free-spirit...?

Also I thought of that when saw this cover;


(http://i.imgur.com/xnkOR1n.jpg?2)(http://i.imgur.com/Fm30bDx.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 19 April, 2013, 11:23:17 PM
Chopper was/is an anti-authoritarian. Clan techie was just a broken down perp in the wrong place at the wrong time.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 19 April, 2013, 11:27:52 PM
It's an interesting idea,(not least because I reckon Gleeson is a v.interesting actor) it would take a very big swing of a turnaround of a story-arc but I guess nothing's impossible.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 April, 2013, 11:28:14 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 19 April, 2013, 11:23:17 PM
Chopper was/is an anti-authoritarian. Clan techie was just a broken down perp in the wrong place at the wrong time.


True. People could changes? He was in Ma-Ma control room for how long, knew everything she do to be Ma-Ma clan boss?

And I like that someone mentions, copper sculptor = chopper?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 19 April, 2013, 11:34:36 PM
Hmmnn, it's a fun game... but pure speculation; it's like asking what if Kay survived his head-wound and got a new big metal arm and a metal head-plate with a dial on the front?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 20 April, 2013, 08:07:51 AM
I think you're crediting the movie with more depth than it actually has and seeing things that are not there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 April, 2013, 08:18:52 AM
Yes and think there's many we missed.

Awesome film!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 20 April, 2013, 08:25:59 AM
No I don't think there is - it's an action B movie, not a Bergman epic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 20 April, 2013, 08:32:42 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 20 April, 2013, 08:07:51 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 20 April, 2013, 08:18:52 AM
I think you're crediting the movie with more depth than it actually has and seeing things that are not there.

Yes and think there's many we missed. Awesome film!

A priceless exchange, totemic of all previous and future discussion of that film on this board. You might as well lock the thread and divert all other Film Discussion threads here.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 20 April, 2013, 09:18:19 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 20 April, 2013, 08:07:51 AM
I think you're crediting the movie with more depth than it actually has and seeing things that are not there.

Ma-Ma had manky teeth. Judge Death has manky teeth. Ma-Ma: dead. Death: dead.

What more proof do you need? Ma-Ma would have been Judge Death in the sequel!

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 April, 2013, 10:09:28 AM
Kay's Jacob Sardini. He survives his arm getting blown off and uses his skinning skills for good.

In this thread 'We use everything but the soul'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 April, 2013, 12:31:24 PM


It's obvious due to the joy displayed during his fire-arm, interrogation and trans-fenestration skills that the 'Dredd' in this film is actually Rico and not Joe.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 20 April, 2013, 12:52:29 PM
I'm still hoping they clone Lex and make him Cal.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 20 April, 2013, 01:42:04 PM
In a thread full of ludicrous statements this really takes the biscuit. I salute you.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: michael kennedy on 20 April, 2013, 06:09:12 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p480x480/559800_10151516113848286_1476913186_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: watto911 on 21 April, 2013, 12:29:11 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 19 April, 2013, 11:21:14 PM
You're right, darnmarr, but what if that was to make him grew from it and became free-spirit...?

Also I thought of that when saw this cover;


(http://i.imgur.com/xnkOR1n.jpg?2)(http://i.imgur.com/Fm30bDx.jpg?1)


Is there a reference to 2000AD on the clan techie's T shirt??
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 21 April, 2013, 12:48:51 PM
Quote from: watto911 on 21 April, 2013, 12:29:11 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 19 April, 2013, 11:21:14 PM
You're right, darnmarr, but what if that was to make him grew from it and became free-spirit...?

Also I thought of that when saw this cover;


(http://i.imgur.com/xnkOR1n.jpg?2)(http://i.imgur.com/Fm30bDx.jpg?1)


Is there a reference to 2000AD on the clan techie's T shirt??

If you look carefully, you can see a puff of smoke from the grassy knoll...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: darnmarr on 21 April, 2013, 01:52:08 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Qgjx4MYGRmI/UXPgjU0aj2I/AAAAAAAACHo/peUp66uus0M/s320/evvydens.JPG)
:o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MattJW on 21 April, 2013, 06:09:54 PM
Chopper's signature is, of course, seen on a wall in the film. I don't think the techie would have had the nerve to daub his alter ego around Peach Trees....!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 April, 2013, 09:10:18 PM
How could you ruin Goaty's dream :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 23 April, 2013, 10:05:39 PM
One of the IMDB staff was asking where Dubstride by Yann McCullough & Gemma Kicks was used in the film, or whether it actually appears in the film at all. I'm none the wiser - does anyone know, or even know what the song sounds like? Youtube doesn't recognise the name.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 April, 2013, 10:21:33 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 23 April, 2013, 10:05:39 PM
One of the IMDB staff was asking where Dubstride by Yann McCullough & Gemma Kicks was used in the film, or whether it actually appears in the film at all. I'm none the wiser - does anyone know, or even know what the song sounds like? Youtube doesn't recognise the name.

The song is on this vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7S1St9SrD4)





https://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/eca-single/id590340296
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 23 April, 2013, 10:31:44 PM
Cheers, Soap. I'll muster the energy to go through the film listening for it some other time - I'm away to my bed.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 April, 2013, 10:39:38 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 23 April, 2013, 10:31:44 PM
Cheers, Soap. I'll muster the energy to go through the film listening for it some other time - I'm away to my bed.


My hunch is that's it's buried deep within the atmos sound-mix during the latter half of the Peach Trees crime-scene investigation. It's a sourced piece of library-music, like the trailer music, so it wouldn't be well known and therefore cheap to license.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 April, 2013, 01:07:57 PM


Our Ma-Ma got honour of number 10 in 50 Worse To Best Comic Book Movie Villains!

http://www.totalfilm.com/features/worst-to-best-comic-book-movie-villains/ma-ma-dredd (http://www.totalfilm.com/features/worst-to-best-comic-book-movie-villains/ma-ma-dredd)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 25 April, 2013, 12:37:03 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 24 April, 2013, 01:07:57 PM


Our Ma-Ma got honour of number 10 in 50 Worse To Best Comic Book Movie Villains!

http://www.totalfilm.com/features/worst-to-best-comic-book-movie-villains/ma-ma-dredd (http://www.totalfilm.com/features/worst-to-best-comic-book-movie-villains/ma-ma-dredd)

QuoteMa-Ma (Dredd)

"Negotiations over. The sentence is death."

Nemesis: Judge Dredd

Who? A former prostitute turned drug lord and criminal kingpin, Ma-Ma does everything she can to destroy Mega-City One's notorious judge after he accidentally stumbles upon a murder what she and her henchmen did. A ruthless junkie, uncannily reminiscent of punk-rock singer Patti Smith, there is literally no line this woman won't cross.

Terrifying or terrible? Both. Whatever she says. Please don't hurt us... We want our mum.

Sweet!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 09 May, 2013, 10:47:34 AM
This is how (http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/08/letv-super-tv-x60/) I'd like to be watching Dredd next time...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 09 May, 2013, 11:19:57 AM
Quote from: Banners on 09 May, 2013, 10:47:34 AM
This is how (http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/08/letv-super-tv-x60/) I'd like to be watching Dredd next time...


Cor! Love one of them!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 09 May, 2013, 01:25:18 PM
Quote from: Banners on 09 May, 2013, 10:47:34 AM
This is how (http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/08/letv-super-tv-x60/) I'd like to be watching Dredd next time...
Wowsers damn and blimey.  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 09 May, 2013, 02:07:06 PM
Madre de Grud!  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 09 May, 2013, 02:18:57 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 20 April, 2013, 09:18:19 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 20 April, 2013, 08:07:51 AM
I think you're crediting the movie with more depth than it actually has and seeing things that are not there.

Ma-Ma had manky teeth. Judge Death has manky teeth. Ma-Ma: dead. Death: dead.

What more proof do you need? Ma-Ma would have been Judge Death in the sequel!

Cheers

Jim

*like*

Glad I wasn't drinking when I read this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 09 May, 2013, 03:24:54 PM
Quote from: Banners on 09 May, 2013, 10:47:34 AM
This is how (http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/08/letv-super-tv-x60/) I'd like to be watching Dredd next time...
60 inches? Pah! Last time I was in John Lewis they were selling this at just under £100 an inch (http://www.johnlewis.com/samsung-ue75es9000-led-hd-1080p-3d-smart-tv-75-with-freeview-freesat-hd-and-voice-motion-control/p231733770)!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 09 May, 2013, 04:10:41 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 09 May, 2013, 03:24:54 PM
Quote from: Banners on 09 May, 2013, 10:47:34 AM
This is how (http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/08/letv-super-tv-x60/) I'd like to be watching Dredd next time...
60 inches? Pah! Last time I was in John Lewis they were selling this at just under £100 an inch (http://www.johnlewis.com/samsung-ue75es9000-led-hd-1080p-3d-smart-tv-75-with-freeview-freesat-hd-and-voice-motion-control/p231733770)!

The selling point is surely "... play the smash hit Angry Birds...".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 09 May, 2013, 04:18:45 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 09 May, 2013, 04:10:41 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 09 May, 2013, 03:24:54 PM
Quote from: Banners on 09 May, 2013, 10:47:34 AM
This is how (http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/08/letv-super-tv-x60/) I'd like to be watching Dredd next time...
60 inches? Pah! Last time I was in John Lewis they were selling this at just under £100 an inch (http://www.johnlewis.com/samsung-ue75es9000-led-hd-1080p-3d-smart-tv-75-with-freeview-freesat-hd-and-voice-motion-control/p231733770)!

The selling point is surely "... play the smash hit Angry Birds...".

pfft don't be silly, next thing you'll be telling me is that people would buy a particular insurance policy simply to get a cheap stuffed toy!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 10 May, 2013, 04:36:42 PM
Just read on Aussi movie.com that Urban would love to do a Dredd sequel and its all up in the air at moment and not up to him so he will see.Its sounds like its not quite dead yet, theres still a glimmer of hope.   :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 10 May, 2013, 06:39:29 PM
Sorry that interview is on xusie_movie on twitter about Urban wanting to reprise Dredd  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 10 May, 2013, 06:45:56 PM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 10 May, 2013, 04:36:42 PM
Just read on Aussi movie.com that Urban would love to do a Dredd sequel and its all up in the air at moment and not up to him so he will see.Its sounds like its not quite dead yet, theres still a glimmer of hope.   :)

Is that a straw!I'm grabbing it I tell you, I'm grabbing it!Come on Euromillions you beauty  ;) :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 10 May, 2013, 09:00:40 PM
its here
http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/urban-im-open-dredd-sequel-113417971.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 10 May, 2013, 10:10:18 PM
Its getting a lot of attention on various FB sites.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 11 May, 2013, 01:24:10 PM
Karl sums it well when he says a lot of people have 'discovered' Dredd on DVD.The marketing for the theatrical release wasn't as impactful as it should have been, but having said that Dredd as a property is now definately more widely known than before and has put some distance over the 95 debacle with many.

With its star publically proclaiming a willingness to return and with comic adaptations a regular stable in the theatres, as well as the mistakes made with the previous release widely recognised and ackowledged its not impossible that some exec somewhere may take another look at Dredd.

To date do we know where we are with the figures -total revenue received for Dredd cinema,dvd, blueray etc?

Never say die, stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 11 May, 2013, 02:15:07 PM
With the best will in the world, that is pretty much exactly what I would expect him to say if someone asked him about a sequel. He's just being diplomatic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 11 May, 2013, 04:26:29 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 11 May, 2013, 01:24:10 PMTo date do we know where we are with the figures -total revenue received for Dredd cinema,dvd, blueray etc?
Last I heard was in February, and it was still a long way from breaking even. Like radiator said, this is Urban being diplomatic. There's is zero chance we're going to see this version of Dredd again on the big screen, unless some total nutcase super-rich Dredd fan funds it. Shiny disc sales would have had to have been astronomical to nudge that needle, rather than merely surprisingly good. (Think of it like Serenity—that sold by the bucketload too, but that movie had no chance of a sequel either.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 11 May, 2013, 07:25:25 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 11 May, 2013, 04:26:29 PMThere's is zero chance we're going to see this version of Dredd again on the big screen, unless some total nutcase super-rich Dredd fan funds it.
Or a number of modestly payed total nutcase Dredd fans? :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 May, 2013, 08:48:24 PM
Give it as much credence as Pete Travis saying he'd hope there would be a sequel.

It's Karl's way of saying 'Dredd is with the Angels now' and just being a nice guy about it.

In reality, not a hope.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 May, 2013, 08:55:39 PM
Hooold the LIIIIIIIIINE.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 11 May, 2013, 09:04:43 PM
Please Grud, let's not do this again...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 May, 2013, 09:08:09 PM
Maybe the whole film forum should be locked. Never to be spoken of again.

Except in whispers..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 11 May, 2013, 09:20:10 PM
Bollocks,freedom of speech,NEVER give up hope,fight the power etc...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Ghost MacRoth on 11 May, 2013, 09:21:00 PM
All we need is for me to win the lottery....then it's on. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 11 May, 2013, 09:24:04 PM
Quote from: Rocketman on 11 May, 2013, 09:20:10 PM
Bollocks,freedom of speech,NEVER give up hope,fight the power etc...
Sing it with me!

Ro-ro-fight the power! X 50

But yeah, keep it open, we can but dream, and people have been prying for sequels to movies for decades. Even to this day we don't have the Blade Runner Sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Ghost MacRoth on 11 May, 2013, 09:29:46 PM
We also didn't think we'd see another attempt at Dredd after Stallone fucked it up. But we got one....eventually. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 May, 2013, 09:38:21 PM
If I win the Euromillions I'll be straight on the phone too DNA Films!  ;-)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 11 May, 2013, 09:56:21 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 11 May, 2013, 09:24:04 PM
Quote from: Rocketman on 11 May, 2013, 09:20:10 PM
Bollocks,freedom of speech,NEVER give up hope,fight the power etc...
Sing it with me!

Ro-ro-fight the power! X 50

But yeah, keep it open, we can but dream, and people have been prying for sequels to movies for decades. Even to this day we don't have the Blade Runner Sequel.

There's people working on spec scripts for that as we speak. Nerve racking after his last sequel to his other classic movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 11 May, 2013, 10:33:45 PM
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is being remade!

The prosecution rests....... ;) :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 May, 2013, 11:16:00 PM
There are times I'm not quite as horrified about Ninja Turtles as others due to Bay not directing.

Then I remember Megan Fox has been cast..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 11 May, 2013, 11:19:56 PM
What would Chopper do if the Mod-droids told him never to dare dream of a possible sequel to the greatest comic book film ever?
He would tell em to (politely) bugger off via the medium of graffiti.
:)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 12 May, 2013, 01:54:29 AM
Quote from: Stan on 11 May, 2013, 11:16:00 PM
There are times I'm not quite as horrified about Ninja Turtles as others due to Bay not directing.

Then I remember Megan Fox has been cast..

Turtle wax job?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 12 May, 2013, 02:52:10 AM
i see DREDD is now  patrolling the STREETS in GTA IV
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3659/gtadredd1.jpg
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 May, 2013, 08:36:37 AM

Well it nice to see Dredd's drug bust in Total Film new feature;

50 Most Exhilarating Movie Moments
http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-most-exhilarating-movie-moments/dredd (http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-most-exhilarating-movie-moments/dredd)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 15 May, 2013, 11:05:27 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 15 May, 2013, 08:36:37 AM

Well it nice to see Dredd's drug bust in Total Film new feature;

50 Most Exhilarating Movie Moments
http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-most-exhilarating-movie-moments/dredd (http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-most-exhilarating-movie-moments/dredd)

QuoteHold On Tight When: Dredd shoots a bullet through a heavily tattooed bad guy's cheek.[\quote]

Funny how they focused on the tattoo'd guys cheek, and not the cheek that gets splattered all over the audience in glorious 3D.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 15 May, 2013, 03:48:59 PM
Quote from: Stan on 11 May, 2013, 11:16:00 PM
There are times I'm not quite as horrified about Ninja Turtles as others due to Bay not directing.

Then I remember Megan Fox has been cast..
I'm near as mortified. What a horrific dross this is going to be.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 May, 2013, 11:58:29 PM



Karl Urban: "Interestingly enough, I did have breakfast with Alex Garland this morning.  It's not off the agenda."[/color] (http://collider.com/dredd-2-sequel-news-karl-urban/)






Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 May, 2013, 12:03:58 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 May, 2013, 11:58:29 PM



Karl Urban: "Interestingly enough, I did have breakfast with Alex Garland this morning.  It's not off the agenda."[/color] (http://collider.com/dredd-2-sequel-news-karl-urban/)


:o  :o  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 16 May, 2013, 12:13:14 AM
Huh. Well that's a little more than just being diplomatic. I still think ultimately it'll all come down to the numbers in the end, and I just don't see how it would make sense financially.

But gawd bless Karl for being optimistic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 12:20:44 AM
Quote from: radiator on 16 May, 2013, 12:13:14 AM
Huh. Well that's a little more than just being diplomatic. I still think ultimately it'll all come down to the numbers in the end, and I just don't see how it would make sense financially.

But gawd bless Karl for being optimistic.


I didn't think Dredd would be still in the Top 10 UK blu-rays (http://www.bva.org.uk/market-information/blu-ray-sales-chart) 4 months down the road (http://www.officialcharts.com/blu-ray-chart/).






Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 16 May, 2013, 12:25:28 AM
WOW did you hear that people if we want another installment we need to be vocal about it  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 16 May, 2013, 12:36:11 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 12:20:44 AM
Quote from: radiator on 16 May, 2013, 12:13:14 AM
Huh. Well that's a little more than just being diplomatic. I still think ultimately it'll all come down to the numbers in the end, and I just don't see how it would make sense financially.

But gawd bless Karl for being optimistic.


I didn't think Dredd would be still in the Top 10 UK blu-rays (http://www.bva.org.uk/market-information/blu-ray-sales-chart) 4 months down the road (http://www.officialcharts.com/blu-ray-chart/).

Great as that is, its only in the UK.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 12:43:06 AM


Quote from: radiator on 16 May, 2013, 12:36:11 AM
Great as that is, its only in the UK.


It's all down to the numbers.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 16 May, 2013, 12:51:51 AM
It's above Avengers too! ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 12:54:29 AM



And Skyfall.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 May, 2013, 02:12:18 AM
Karl Urban is such a troll.

But Chuck Sixpackman is pleased by his optimism.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 03:58:31 AM



On a related note, if you get to make a sequel to Dredd, would you like to see Judge Death?

Yeah, absolutely! There's so many stories that would be wonderful to explore. I think Alex and I are certainly interested in continuing exploring, and judging by the fan reaction and the amount of times even during this publicity tour that I'm talking about Dredd is a good indication that it definitely found an audience. We'll see.



http://screenrant.com/karl-urban-star-trek-3-dredd-2/

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 16 May, 2013, 06:33:30 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 May, 2013, 11:58:29 PM



Karl Urban: "Interestingly enough, I did have breakfast with Alex Garland this morning.  It's not off the agenda."[/color] (http://collider.com/dredd-2-sequel-news-karl-urban/)

So I am sitting quietly at my work desk and I get a phone call.
HR: "Vince, this Jim from HR"
Me: "Uh, yeah?"
HR: "Vince, someone has made a complaint about you."
Me: "Oh?"
HR: "Ye-es... they say that you have been surfing the internet on your company computer and masturbating at your desk."
Me: "Um..."
HR: "In fact, if I look at our security footage, it seems you were still engaged in this behavior right up until my phone call..."
Me: "Look I can explain, I was just taking a break and started reading this article..."
HR: "An 'article'?"
Me: "Yes, see it was about this movie..."
HR: "You were reading about a 'movie' and masturbating?"
Me: "Yeah, they were talking about maybe, possibly doing a Dredd sequel..."
HR: "A Dredd sequel? uh, really..." <keyboard tapping noises> "Okay, bye now" <sound of pants being unzipped> "click"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 16 May, 2013, 06:38:49 AM
"As a jobbing actor, would you be prepared to do more paying work?"

"Yes I would."

And as both The Avengers and Skyfall made over $billion at the box office and Dredd... Didn't, there needs to be so e serious reality checks here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 16 May, 2013, 07:06:18 AM
Positive thoughts, positive thoughts!    :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 May, 2013, 07:12:38 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 16 May, 2013, 07:06:18 AM
Positive thoughts, positive thoughts!    :)

Yep which I been for ages till September on here.  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 May, 2013, 08:04:59 AM
... :o mention of a kick-starter campaign... hmmm
Title: Re: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 16 May, 2013, 08:24:56 AM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 16 May, 2013, 08:04:59 AM
... :o mention of a kick-starter campaign... hmmm

Cool that's the catering funded then.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 May, 2013, 08:37:21 AM
Poor Mike.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 16 May, 2013, 09:01:38 AM
<head desk>
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 May, 2013, 09:01:51 AM
Now Total Film got it too...

There nice four comments on the feature!

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/karl-urban-talks-dredd-sequel (http://www.totalfilm.com/news/karl-urban-talks-dredd-sequel)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 16 May, 2013, 09:08:43 AM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 16 May, 2013, 08:04:59 AM
... :o mention of a kick-starter campaign... hmmm

By "mention" you mean: "dismissed as completely inappropriate for a project of this scale", which is what the interview actually says, yes?

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 May, 2013, 09:10:45 AM
Having breakfast together, probably happens all the time I reckon!

The campaign for the sequel can now go into overdrive and once all those 2012 Judges start patrolling it will hit the next stage.
Come on folks, let's all unite as one and get ready for Dredd in the Cursed Earth :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 May, 2013, 09:21:54 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 16 May, 2013, 09:08:43 AM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 16 May, 2013, 08:04:59 AM
... :o mention of a kick-starter campaign... hmmm

By "mention" you mean: "dismissed as completely inappropriate for a project of this scale", which is what the interview actually says, yes?

Cheers

Jim

Inappropriate because it's inappropriate and was so for Zach Braff. it's not a trend I want to see. Kickstarter is there to help indie creators.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 16 May, 2013, 09:27:15 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 16 May, 2013, 09:01:38 AM
<head desk>
Did the desk mind?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 May, 2013, 09:31:08 AM
It's used to it by now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 09:36:47 AM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 16 May, 2013, 09:21:54 AM
Inappropriate because it's inappropriate and was so for Zach Braff.


It's not, the Hollywood Reporter mis-reported it as funding when it's a loan based on foreign distribution pre-sales that they won't receive until after the film shoots; they need the money now to shoot the film:


http://variety.com/2013/film/news/zach-braff-kickstarter-project-gets-gap-financing-1200482029/



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 16 May, 2013, 09:38:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zMRrNY0pxfM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zMRrNY0pxfM)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 09:39:43 AM

Quote from: Richmond Clements on 16 May, 2013, 06:38:49 AM
there needs to be so e serious reality checks here.


It's a terrible thing when people talk about Judge Dredd in the mainstream media, again.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 16 May, 2013, 09:42:26 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 09:39:43 AM

Quote from: Richmond Clements on 16 May, 2013, 06:38:49 AM
there needs to be so e serious reality checks here.


It's a terrible thing when people talk about Judge Dredd in the mainstream media, again.

:)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 16 May, 2013, 09:58:18 AM
if you don't gosub a program loop you'll never get a subroutine
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 16 May, 2013, 10:22:47 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 09:39:43 AM

Quote from: Richmond Clements on 16 May, 2013, 06:38:49 AM
there needs to be so e serious reality checks here.


It's a terrible thing when people talk about Judge Dredd in the mainstream media, again.

No, but people trotting out the same rubbish about SEQUEL! on here yet again no matter what the reality of the situation an no matter how many times they have it explained to them can be... frustrating.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 16 May, 2013, 10:44:51 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 16 May, 2013, 10:22:47 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 09:39:43 AM

Quote from: Richmond Clements on 16 May, 2013, 06:38:49 AM
there needs to be so e serious reality checks here.


It's a terrible thing when people talk about Judge Dredd in the mainstream media, again.
Or you could just ignore it. No one is forcing you to read the hopeful speculations of others.

I remains optimistic based on evidence provided, primarily public interest and the enthusiasm of the production team.

No, but people trotting out the same rubbish about SEQUEL! on here yet again no matter what the reality of the situation an no matter how many times they have it explained to them can be... frustrating.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 16 May, 2013, 10:50:58 AM
Karl Urban "Interestingly enough, I did have breakfast with Alex Garland this morning.  It's not off the agenda.  Clearly everyone has woken up to the fact that an audience has found this movie and loves it.  It's entirely possible, and if people want to see another installment then they should be vocal about that, because, it can happen.  The power of fandom can resurrect projects."

A call to arms if ever I heard one  :)We all know its a longshot, but so what?A good campaign for a Dredd sequel would still be good for Dredd as a property whether it succeeds or not.Besides could be fun if we come up with some novel ideas to promote a Dredd 2 film.

Letters to DNA I presume and IMGlobal?(Santa Claus is naturally copied in, just to cover all the bases  ;) :D)




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 16 May, 2013, 10:52:06 AM
QuoteOr you could just ignore it. No one is forcing you to read the hopeful speculations of others.


Well, apart from me being a moderator and reading the post kind of being part of the job, you're correct.

And the sarcasm is free. You're welcome.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 11:26:45 AM



Quote from: Richmond Clements on 16 May, 2013, 10:22:47 AM
No, but people trotting out the same rubbish about SEQUEL! on here yet again no matter what the reality of the situation an no matter how many times they have it explained to them can be... frustrating.


As an extension and promotion of the film we have, it's people asking/talking about a sequel, no matter the odds, that convinced Rebellion to run a new strip in the Megazine, and everytime there's a surge in outside chatter, sales of the film spike a little. It's a feedback loop that depends on perception as much as reality. There's nothing wrong with a bit of indulgence now and again.









Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 16 May, 2013, 11:30:02 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 11:26:45 AM
As an extension and promotion of the film we have, it's people asking/talking about a sequel, no matter the odds, that convinced Rebellion to run a new strip in the Megazine.

Not true, we've been looking to do one since before the film was out. Just took time, is all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 16 May, 2013, 11:30:49 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 11:26:45 AM



Quote from: Richmond Clements on 16 May, 2013, 10:22:47 AM
No, but people trotting out the same rubbish about SEQUEL! on here yet again no matter what the reality of the situation an no matter how many times they have it explained to them can be... frustrating.


As an extension and promotion of the film we have, it's people asking/talking about a sequel, no matter the odds, that convinced Rebellion to run a new strip in the Megazine, and everytime there's a surge in outside chatter, sales of the film spike a little. It's a feedback loop that depends on perception as much as reality. There's nothing wrong with a bit of indulgence now and again.

Exactly right  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 11:31:30 AM
Quote from: Molch-R on 16 May, 2013, 11:30:02 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 11:26:45 AM
As an extension and promotion of the film we have, it's people asking/talking about a sequel, no matter the odds, that convinced Rebellion to run a new strip in the Megazine.

Not true, we've been looking to do one since before the film was out. Just took time, is all.


Fair enough but the sequel interest helps.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 16 May, 2013, 11:34:04 AM
QuoteThere's nothing wrong with a bit of indulgence now and again.

Agree.

I can sympathise with people getting annoyed when every Tom Dick and Harry spams the board with individual threads saying the same thing, but I don't really see the benefit of scoffing at a little glimmer of optimism on the dedicated movie thread.

I don't believe a sequel will happen, but I'm certainly interested in whatever Urban has to say on the matter.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 16 May, 2013, 11:34:14 AM
Anything that gets people talking about Dredd in a positive way is helpful, as Joe Soap says, regardless of the odds.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 May, 2013, 02:48:43 PM
Well, yes and no - it could just become a case of crying wolf to the point where people get tired of hearing about it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 May, 2013, 03:00:53 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 16 May, 2013, 02:48:43 PM
Well, yes and no - it could just become a case of crying wolf to the point where people get tired of hearing about it.

When Total Film post that Urban Dredd feature on Facebook this morning, about 60 comments on "Yes!" to "Awesome film!" "Bring on the Sequel"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 May, 2013, 03:13:37 PM
I mean beyond the fan base, which is what it needs to crack.

It's one thing for Alex or Karl to say they'd be up for it, it's a whole different kettle of fish for financiers to pony up the money to make it.

Let's not forget there was a lot of positivity after the preview screening at SDCC, but that didn't materialise into box-office.

Even accounting for home video sales, it's an enormous risk to fund a theatrical sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 05:12:56 PM



A few hours after that article came out Dredd's position in the blu-ray chart on amazon.com US jumped from around 90 (where it has resided fo a few weeks now) to 56, next to TDKR. It does have an affect no matter how small.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 May, 2013, 05:21:51 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 05:12:56 PMA few hours after that article came out Dredd's position in the blu-ray chart on amazon.com US jumped from around 90 (where it has resided fo a few weeks now) to 56, next to TDKR. It does have an affect no matter how small.

Karl really smart guy! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 16 May, 2013, 05:33:08 PM
If the Studio has any balls they'll fund it. Any sequel would do much better off the back of how many people have now seen it on home video.

The same thing happened with Hellboy - the first one made "just" 30 mill profit so Sony weren't interested in a sequel (small potatoes for them) - Del Toro got Universal to fund it and the sequel made $80 mill profit at the box office alone.

Took him four years though; Garland and Urban got their work cut out for them. Maybe after Dredd's did the rounds on TV  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 May, 2013, 05:34:39 PM


As I mention in few posts ago that Karl really a smart guy; he did something different last year;

Karl Urban, who will reprise his role as Leonard 'Bones' McCoy in the summer 2013 follow-up, seemed to accidentally reveal a major tidbit during an interview with SFX about the September Dredd reboot. Asked about what it will be like to soon work with veteran British actor/owner of the best name in showbiz Benedict Cumberbatch (who was cast in January as the villain), Urban responded, "He's awesome, he's a great addition, and I think his Gary Mitchell is going to be exemplary"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 05:42:20 PM
Quote from: sheldipez on 16 May, 2013, 05:33:08 PM
The same thing happened with Hellboy

Except it wasn't the same.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 16 May, 2013, 05:46:23 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 05:42:20 PM
Quote from: sheldipez on 16 May, 2013, 05:33:08 PM
The same thing happened with Hellboy

Except it wasn't the same.

Aye it didn't help that Dredd made zero profit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 16 May, 2013, 06:03:39 PM
An e-petition has been set up.  Even for an optimist for myself, 100 signatories doesn't seem quite enough to get DNA Films, Lionsgate & Rebellion to commission a sequel.  Of course I would love to be wrong!

https://www.change.org/petitions/dna-films-lionsgate-rebellion-make-dredd
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 16 May, 2013, 06:06:48 PM
Quote from: The Bissler on 16 May, 2013, 06:03:39 PM
doesn't seem quite enough to get DNA Films, Lionsgate & Rebellion to commission a sequel

Just to be clear, we wouldn't be involved in any decision on whether a sequel goes ahead. DNA have a five-year option, which started ticking last September.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 May, 2013, 06:14:33 PM
DNA have a five-year option you say, all I hear is The sequel is on  :D

Thanks Molch-R :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 16 May, 2013, 06:21:35 PM
Oh FFS...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 16 May, 2013, 06:25:49 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 May, 2013, 06:14:33 PM
DNA have a five-year option you say, all I hear is The sequel is on  :D

Thanks Molch-R :thumbsup:
I can't help but find CF's effortless enthusiasm somewhat intoxicating.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 16 May, 2013, 06:27:43 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 16 May, 2013, 06:21:35 PM
Oh FFS...

You know something? I want there to be a sequel SO badly , not because of the fact that there would be one , but just to shut YOU up. You are the most negative person I have ever , EVER known.
I know people do go on about it somewhat , but ffs that's what true dedicated fans do.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 16 May, 2013, 06:44:34 PM
My poor phone has taken a battering today with me visiting every web site that has been asking to like/share links to try and get a sequel, and there are a bloody lot. Not just fan sites.Dont care what people think of me I  NEED that damn sequel and do all I can to get one , so there!!!   :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Recrewt on 16 May, 2013, 06:49:08 PM
Apologies if this has already been mentioned upstream but do we know what the latest figures are for Dredd?  I know the box office left them with a deficit but there have now been several weeks of DVD/Blu Ray sales but I have no idea how much they contribute to the pot! 

If the returns were not too bad, they could nail the promotion better this time and keep costs down - then I would not be surprised to see something in the future!

I'm with CF  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 16 May, 2013, 07:02:33 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 16 May, 2013, 06:27:43 PM
You are the most negative person I have ever , EVER known.

You should get out more.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 16 May, 2013, 07:17:40 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 16 May, 2013, 07:02:33 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 16 May, 2013, 06:27:43 PM
You are the most negative person I have ever , EVER known.

You should get out more.

Cheers

Jim

I read comics. My...social and outgoing skills aren't that great.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 May, 2013, 07:20:53 PM
Quote from: The Bissler on 16 May, 2013, 06:03:39 PM
An e-petition has been set up.  Even for an optimist for myself, 100 signatories doesn't seem quite enough to get DNA Films, Lionsgate & Rebellion to commission a sequel.  Of course I would love to be wrong!

https://www.change.org/petitions/dna-films-lionsgate-rebellion-make-dredd

A FB page is one thing (although still pointless IMHO), but I tend to think of change.org petitions are for more important subjects - doing one for a sequel to a film just seems a bit tragic.

Sorry.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 16 May, 2013, 07:24:40 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 16 May, 2013, 07:20:53 PM
A FB page is one thing (although still pointless IMHO)

This will surely to bear fruit any day now (http://www.facebook.com/JohnCarterBackToBarsoomTheSequelCampaignhttp://www.facebook.com/JohnCarterBackToBarsoomTheSequelCampaign).

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 May, 2013, 07:34:59 PM
That obviously means it was a success.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 May, 2013, 07:36:43 PM
Obviously I'm always gonna be in the 'We want a sequel' group and if there is anything that we, as the main fan base can do to spread the word, then I don't see any harm in it.

It ain't gonna happen means bugger all to me, as I'm the eternal optimist. It doesn't matter what 'so-called' insurmountable walls are put up, there is always a way to climb it, or smash through it. Okay, we are a small community and Dredd is still a niche character in a world full of Marvel, DC, Star Wars, etc... but as far as I'm concerned many things have happened in the last few years that have surprised me.

First off, the film was announced, then had critical aclaim from all who saw it (I know it died at the box office and the reasons why are for another debate and preferably in the pub) and has done amazingly well after with disc sales.

This has spawned a Dredd costuming group, in of all places America and soon there will be at least 150+ 2012 Judges doing the rounds. These Judges will be all over the world from looking at the list of where the leathers are being sent to. There are two going to Hawaii, which will be hot!
The upcoming convention scene is going to be very interesting as loads of Judges hit these and help spread the word alonside other characters from the Dredd/2000 AD universe. You must've seen how well Hershey, Devlin, Durham and Chopper went down at the LSCC. Brand recognition and to see one lad get so excited on seeing Devlin Waugh stood in front of him was absolutely priceless :D
The Planet Replica Judges always get a great reception at conventions and everyone plays along with being a perp and those photos pop up all over the place.

We also have the 2000 AD droids doing some magnificent signings, panels and of course work, which always helps the core subject matter and many thanks must be laid at the feet of Molch-R for these events, especially the Ron Smith one.

Rebellion are doing brisk business in the US and by the looks of it, so are IDW, which again is great for the future.

The fan films! Minty has been well received by the fans and now we are seeing others in early stages of production. This surely is a good thing and helps to keep Dredd's world in the public eye.

Add all these things together and the push/love/hope for a sequel is always gonna be there, as far as I'm concerned! Who knows what the future may bring but I'd rather be hoping for a sequel than not!

Now come on Karl and Alex, I want to hear what was said when you had tea together ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 May, 2013, 07:49:48 PM


Amazing post, John.


Oh my, 700 pages!! Now start something Karl and Alex!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2013, 08:09:32 PM



That's why we made you, John.





Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 16 May, 2013, 08:13:15 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 16 May, 2013, 07:34:59 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 16 May, 2013, 07:24:40 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 16 May, 2013, 07:20:53 PM
A FB page is one thing (although still pointless IMHO)

This will surely bear fruit any day now (http://www.facebook.com/JohnCarterBackToBarsoomTheSequelCampaignhttp://www.facebook.com/JohnCarterBackToBarsoomTheSequelCampaign).

That obviously means it was a success.

Sorry, Steve; my sarcasm and IT abilities let me down. What I meant to say is that an enthusiastic fan campaign must surely overcome even the most enormous financial obstacles:

http://www.facebook.com/JohnCarterBackToBarsoomTheSequelCampaign

Only 70,000 dollars-per-like needed to turn that sure-fire winner into a smash hit sequel!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 16 May, 2013, 08:32:39 PM
C F for chief Judge. :lol:   I agree hole heartedly with his comments and views of the future looking good for the Dredd and 2000ad brands and will continue to believe that one day Karl will be donning that helmet again tearing down the streets of mega city one astride his lawmaster. The film is making people take note and mark my words some exec will realise that a sequel has a better chance of making money than the first because it has now established a viewing base outside the fanboy circles. So lets get behind it and start pushing it again, you never no stranger things have happened. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 16 May, 2013, 08:37:53 PM
Great post C.F.  I  think it is good to be positive about the FUTURE   +  THE DREDD verse
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 16 May, 2013, 08:50:48 PM
Good job Burdis, take the evening off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 16 May, 2013, 08:57:13 PM
Best post since Theoden at the Pelennor fields.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8yOdAqBFcQ
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 May, 2013, 09:15:16 PM


As it biggest day for this thread get to 700 pages! I create this based on brilliant "What is Love?"

With Corrupt Judges having a night out hour before Peach Trees job.

(http://i.imgur.com/Yi1Adld.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 16 May, 2013, 09:19:53 PM
:thumbsup:

They appear happy. It looks like they're off to watch the SEQUEL™.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 16 May, 2013, 09:57:20 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 16 May, 2013, 09:15:16 PM


As it biggest day for this thread get to 700 pages! I create this based on brilliant "What is Love?"

With Corrupt Judges having a night out hour before Peach Trees job.

(http://i.imgur.com/Yi1Adld.gif)
:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 16 May, 2013, 10:02:53 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 16 May, 2013, 09:15:16 PM


As it biggest day for this thread get to 700 pages! I create this based on brilliant "What is Love?"

With Corrupt Judges having a night out hour before Peach Trees job.

(http://i.imgur.com/Yi1Adld.gif)

LOL. Love this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 17 May, 2013, 12:42:47 AM
Make a Dredd Sequel FB already has 10,000 likes and rising....... :| :P :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 May, 2013, 12:59:50 AM
Comic Dredd has a helmet radio, right? I don't recall him talking into his hand but he does seem to converse with his Lawmaster a lot. :oldpersonmoment:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 17 May, 2013, 07:15:36 AM
Quote from: strontium71 on 16 May, 2013, 07:17:40 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 16 May, 2013, 07:02:33 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 16 May, 2013, 06:27:43 PM
You are the most negative person I have ever , EVER known.

You should get out more.

Cheers

Jim

I read comics. My...social and outgoing skills aren't that great.

Obviously.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 17 May, 2013, 08:21:18 AM
Can we all just stop bickering. I'm under the impression we would all rather have a single thread of a hypothetic nature than a million spam threads all saying the same thing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 May, 2013, 08:47:25 AM

Oi! Show some loves on here as our Karl did;

(http://i.imgur.com/UAq0fbW.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 17 May, 2013, 09:09:47 AM
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb36/jimcampbell2000/DR_Quinch_zps8d6de097.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 May, 2013, 11:24:45 AM
Everyone signed this yet?

http://www.change.org/petitions/dna-films-im-global-reliance-entertainment-make-a-sequel-to-the-dredd-feature-film?utm_campaign=share_button_action_box&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 17 May, 2013, 03:40:03 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 17 May, 2013, 11:24:45 AM
Everyone signed this yet?

http://www.change.org/petitions/dna-films-im-global-reliance-entertainment-make-a-sequel-to-the-dredd-feature-film?utm_campaign=share_button_action_box&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition

Yup :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 May, 2013, 03:51:24 PM
Of course we all have, haven't we. It takes less than a minute and costs you nothing for a comic character that you enjoy reading.
There is really no excuse not to!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 May, 2013, 04:00:41 PM

Done it three times! I got three different emails and different characters!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 17 May, 2013, 04:01:17 PM
Just signed :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 17 May, 2013, 04:03:13 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 May, 2013, 03:51:24 PM
There is really no excuse not to!

Apart from the petition itself being written all in caps with multiple exclamation marks, making it look like the work of someone with mental health issues, obviously.

Other people's mileage may vary.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 May, 2013, 04:15:05 PM
ALL in caps, you must be looking at something else Jim.

Seeing as my wife works in mental health services, she finds those sorts of comments offensive and unhelpful because they add to the severe prejudice already experienced by people with mental health problems.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 17 May, 2013, 04:18:21 PM
Right, can we please calm this thread down a bit please?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 17 May, 2013, 04:25:29 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 May, 2013, 04:15:05 PMALL in caps, you must be looking at something else Jim.

The actual petition reads:

QuoteLOBBY FOR A SEQUEL TO THE "DREDD" BRITISH-SOUTH AFRICAN SCIENCE FICTION FILM (2012) BY THE JUDGE DREDD FANBASE!!
PLEASE MAKE A SEQUEL TO THE "DREDD" FEATURE FILM!!

If one felt that passionately about the subject, then perhaps taking twenty seconds to disengage the CAPS LOCK and compose a coherent sentence doesn't seem like a lot of effort.

I wasn't aware that your wife frequented these forums, but I apologise if you were offended on her behalf.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 May, 2013, 04:34:10 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 May, 2013, 04:15:05 PM
ALL in caps, you must be looking at something else Jim.

Seeing as my wife works in mental health services, she finds those sorts of comments offensive and unhelpful because they add to the severe prejudice already experienced by people with mental health problems.

Come on, Burdis. We're Kippers. Being offended by stuff only sets a bad example.

Embrace the political incorrectness.

Just don't call me coloured.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 17 May, 2013, 04:36:36 PM
I'm going to ask everyone to pay attention to the post I made just a few minutes ago. Please move the conversation on, thanks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 May, 2013, 04:39:25 PM
Message received an obeyed, Mr M.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 May, 2013, 04:40:56 PM
But seriously, can you give us an edit function?

Please?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 17 May, 2013, 04:45:54 PM
No. You have to think about what you're going to type before you type it. And then check it before hitting 'post' :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bolt-01 on 17 May, 2013, 04:49:40 PM
And speaking from past experience- Think twice. Once it is on the 'net, it's there forever. Make the wrong comment and you will be reminded of it for a loong time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 17 May, 2013, 05:17:43 PM
Are we back to the undercrackers thread again?

I know people I used to work with put a 5 minute cooling off period on their e-mails going out, just in case.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 17 May, 2013, 06:01:05 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 17 May, 2013, 04:45:54 PM
No. You have to think about what you're going to type before you type it. And then check it before hitting 'post' :P

dEAR LORD. tHINKING BEFORE POSTING? i PROMISE i'LL GIVE IT A TRY AT LEAST.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 17 May, 2013, 06:42:30 PM
could we get back to  Karl Urban and "" BREAKFAST at  Alex's ""what thread is this ?   

petition thread   Arg 
FUKIN CAPSLOCK ALWAYS CUM ON AT  STOOPID TIMES ....   DUM PERTITON IS Us !  .:)

a bit off topic, BUT .... didnt we used to have a quick edit function ? you could edit  the ERROR within 5 mins




nobody mentioned the sleep over  ??
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 17 May, 2013, 07:05:56 PM
Back to the sequel ;),  thought they could resurect lex in some way to become a twisted alternative Judge Death like character without the supernatural elements as I think Langley Kirkwood could pull it off. Loved his performance , thought he had a great screen presence.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strangelysaucy on 17 May, 2013, 07:19:53 PM
MTV can always fuck off!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 17 May, 2013, 08:18:22 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 17 May, 2013, 04:45:54 PM
No. You have to think about what you're going to type before you type it.

I'm offended by the implication that I don't. :-P

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 17 May, 2013, 08:33:21 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 17 May, 2013, 08:18:22 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 17 May, 2013, 04:45:54 PM
No. You have to think about what you're going to type before you type it.

I'm offended by the implication that I don't. :-P

Cheers

Jim
We do wonder sometimes. Just occationaly, when there's nout on telly and the fridge is empty.

Back to the sequel indeed, what's the new's on this Punisher-esque short?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 17 May, 2013, 08:38:22 PM
Nothing new that I know of.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2013, 08:54:20 PM

Quote from: Hawkmonger on 17 May, 2013, 08:33:21 PM
what's the new's on this Punisher-esque short?


Urban had breakfast with the Producer.







Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 17 May, 2013, 08:57:44 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2013, 08:54:20 PM

Quote from: Hawkmonger on 17 May, 2013, 08:33:21 PM
what's the new's on this Punisher-esque short?


Urban had breakfast with the Producer.
And they ran out of orange juice! QUICK! Somebody get on kickstarter!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2013, 08:59:39 PM



                                                 THE FULL URBAN BREAKFAST (http://collider.com/karl-urban-dredd-2-star-trek-into-darkness-interview/)




First, I told people on Twitter that I was going to interview you, and the one thing that came up from absolutely everyone is, everyone wanted to talk about Dredd.  Everybody.  And you know how much I loved that movie.  Is there any possibility for anything that would have you as Dredd again?

URBAN: Wow.  I'm really humbled to hear that.  Interestingly enough, I did have breakfast with Alex Garland this morning.  It's not off the agenda.  Clearly everyone has woken up to the fact that an audience has found this movie and loves it.  It's entirely possible, and if people want to see another installment then they should be vocal about that, because, it can happen.  The power of fandom can resurrect projects.  In fact, that's what happened with Star Trek.  They weren't going to do a third season until fans did a letter writing campaign and they continued that series.




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 18 May, 2013, 12:06:16 AM
Reading that has rekindled my hopes and dreams. Especially the line where he says everyone has woken up to the fact the film has found it's audience.

Also, Karl Urban is a bigger star then he was before Dredd came out, with being in Dredd of course and another  Star Trek. Plus he's got that new TV show coming up where he is the lead, combine this with the finding of the audience and I reckon someone, somewhere out there with loads of money can be convinced to fund a sequel.

The game is always changing, why should just cinema performance determine success?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2013, 12:53:12 AM


The sequel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abpumkZa0gA) is here :


(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LWsXtEjikHs/Tl6J_WjxvdI/AAAAAAAAAaY/xWuxvpnBxDs/s1600/R.O.T.O.R.+movie+poster.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 18 May, 2013, 01:55:29 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 18 May, 2013, 12:06:16 AM
Reading that has rekindled my hopes and dreams. Especially the line where he says everyone has woken up to the fact the film has found it's audience.

Also, Karl Urban is a bigger star then he was before Dredd came out, with being in Dredd of course and another  Star Trek. Plus he's got that new TV show coming up where he is the lead, combine this with the finding of the audience and I reckon someone, somewhere out there with loads of money can be convinced to fund a sequel.

The game is always changing

Good point about Karl's star rising.If his profile keeps getting bigger....and if he keeps saying he wants to return to the role....and the bucks still keep on coming from healthy DVD/Blueray sales....with enough fans pushing for a return....Who knows.Those in the industry must acknowledge/recognise where the mistakes were made in promoting Dredd and that there is now a wider base to now start from.

The sooner Dredd reaches its break-even mark the better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 18 May, 2013, 02:54:07 AM
I assumed it had, to be honest. They already took in a stack of cash before it hit cinemas.

The unknown marketing costs muddy the waters a bit though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2013, 03:14:34 AM
Quote from: Stan on 18 May, 2013, 02:54:07 AM
I assumed it had, to be honest. They already took in a stack of cash before it hit cinemas.

The unknown marketing costs muddy the waters a bit though.


The pre-sales more or less paid for the marketing so that's written off.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 18 May, 2013, 03:33:42 AM
I suppose that's one way of looking at it, ie. the reverse to mine.

I generally bow to your greater knowledge on this issue.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 18 May, 2013, 07:14:03 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2013, 12:53:12 AM


The sequel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abpumkZa0gA) is here :


(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LWsXtEjikHs/Tl6J_WjxvdI/AAAAAAAAAaY/xWuxvpnBxDs/s1600/R.O.T.O.R.+movie+poster.jpg)
Nice one Joe.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Recrewt on 18 May, 2013, 11:36:45 AM
Nice. They made some great movie posters in the 80s.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 18 May, 2013, 12:04:31 PM
ROTOR is utterly awful though.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 18 May, 2013, 07:53:56 PM
A little glimmer of hope sequel wise but I don't think it will happen. That R.O.T.O.R Poster is a lot better than the film!

Wonder who the artist was?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: clavell on 19 May, 2013, 06:22:45 PM
Ahh, R.O.T.O.R. One of the best worst films ever.

There's been a petition to release it on DVD for a few years now.

http://www.petitiononline.com/ROTORDVD/petition.html (http://www.petitiononline.com/ROTORDVD/petition.html)

- C
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 May, 2013, 09:10:08 AM

So I been away for three days, any latest yet?

Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 20 May, 2013, 09:15:34 AM
Yeah, Molch-R announced the sequel.
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 20 May, 2013, 10:44:09 AM
Quote from: Noisybast on 20 May, 2013, 09:15:34 AM
Yeah, Molch-R announced the sequel.

Dredd 2: This time he's GAY!

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Proudhuff on 20 May, 2013, 10:57:37 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 20 May, 2013, 10:44:09 AM
Quote from: Noisybast on 20 May, 2013, 09:15:34 AM
Yeah, Molch-R announced the sequel.

Dredd 2: This time he's GAY!

Cheers

Jim

and Stallone has said he's available
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 20 May, 2013, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 20 May, 2013, 10:57:37 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 20 May, 2013, 10:44:09 AM
Quote from: Noisybast on 20 May, 2013, 09:15:34 AM
Yeah, Molch-R announced the sequel.

Dredd 2: This time he's GAY!

Cheers

Jim

and Stallone has said he's available

With Baz Luhrmann directing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 20 May, 2013, 02:23:52 PM
We already have it then.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMXDyo5bEFLJFAotEjx7qb8DMOjehKwZ5CyIAaiMEfQNQ89hFP)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 May, 2013, 11:52:15 PM



Construction on PEACH TREES set to begin next month:

One Building, One City - Sky City (http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-sky-city-to-begin-construction-2013-5)




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 21 May, 2013, 12:01:57 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2013, 12:53:12 AM


The sequel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abpumkZa0gA) is here :


(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LWsXtEjikHs/Tl6J_WjxvdI/AAAAAAAAAaY/xWuxvpnBxDs/s1600/R.O.T.O.R.+movie+poster.jpg)

Thank you.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 May, 2013, 08:37:20 AM

I notice on the tweets on Duncan Jones reply on turn down Dredd;

Someone on Twitter; I just read on IMDb that you were offered "Dredd" and decided to turn it down. Is that just another interweb rumor?

Duncan Jones; Thought the script was great, but had a very different, quite mad idea about what I wanted to do with Dredd.


Would like to see his version on Dredd, but I still love Dredd anyway. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 21 May, 2013, 09:29:38 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 May, 2013, 11:52:15 PM

Construction on PEACH TREES set to begin next month:

One Building, One City - Sky City (http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-sky-city-to-begin-construction-2013-5)

A 'sky street' too...
http://www.treehugger.com/modular-design/one-building-one-city-worlds-tallest-prefab-breaking-ground-june.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 21 May, 2013, 10:58:53 AM
Jesus. :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 22 May, 2013, 02:08:11 AM
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x32/scowling_monkey/sequelcreepnow2_zpsd7033e80.jpg) (http://s186.photobucket.com/user/scowling_monkey/media/sequelcreepnow2_zpsd7033e80.jpg.html)

That is all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 22 May, 2013, 05:45:22 AM
 GREAT picture thanks for posting 

must admit i really like the NEW DREDD +uniform

but side to side by the comic version  there is only  1    the comic planet replicas  minty 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 22 May, 2013, 09:08:40 AM
Make a Dredd Sequel FB (nearly 14,000 likes  ;)) has posted a big bank of photos/memes that are well worth a look if you haven't already seen them, made me laugh out loud a few of them.

An article here-  http://www.squabblebox.co.uk/2013/05/dreddful-dreaming/ also makes a point on fan power and the return of the likes of Riddick which looked dead and buried for a long time, so.......


IM Global:
email: info@imglobalfilm.com

mail to:
IM GLOBAL
8322 Beverly Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90048 United States

You know it makes sense  ;) :D

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 May, 2013, 09:14:21 AM

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqkaa0cc7Z1r25534o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 22 May, 2013, 09:16:08 AM
Erhem, and if you have the time

DNA FILMS:
email: info@dnafilms.com

mail to:
DNA Films
10 Amwell Street
London EC1R 1UQ

  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 22 May, 2013, 10:02:27 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 22 May, 2013, 09:16:08 AM
Erhem, and if you have the time

DNA FILMS:
email: info@dnafilms.com

mail to:
DNA Films
10 Amwell Street
London EC1R 1UQ

  :P

Sorted - my pic above is winging its way to them. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 24 May, 2013, 01:58:29 PM
Dredd Blu Ray is currently going for £7 brand new on Amazon.

It's sitting at no.6 in their Blu Ray chart, and is also no.3 on Play.com, which can't be bad.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dredd-Blu-ray-3D-Karl-Urban/dp/B008OGHUFK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369400253&sr=8-1&keywords=dredd (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dredd-Blu-ray-3D-Karl-Urban/dp/B008OGHUFK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369400253&sr=8-1&keywords=dredd)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 May, 2013, 05:32:36 PM
Quote from: radiator on 24 May, 2013, 01:58:29 PM
Dredd Blu Ray is currently going for £7 brand new on Amazon.

It's sitting at no.6 in their Blu Ray chart, and is also no.3 on Play.com, which can't be bad.


It's now at no. 2:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/dvd/383380011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_d_h__3_2_last/278-7994355-5318960

No. 18 on amazon US:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/movies-tv/2958935011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_mov_1_2
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 May, 2013, 05:55:35 PM
Drokking me!  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 24 May, 2013, 06:03:46 PM
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/05/24/dredd-movie-sequel-might-still-be-on-the-cards-say-rebellion-2000ads-publishers/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/05/24/dredd-movie-sequel-might-still-be-on-the-cards-say-rebellion-2000ads-publishers/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 May, 2013, 06:06:30 PM
Quote from: Noisybast on 24 May, 2013, 06:03:46 PM
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/05/24/dredd-movie-sequel-might-still-be-on-the-cards-say-rebellion-2000ads-publishers/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/05/24/dredd-movie-sequel-might-still-be-on-the-cards-say-rebellion-2000ads-publishers/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

I think it will be denied by Molch-R :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 24 May, 2013, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 24 May, 2013, 05:32:36 PM
Quote from: radiator on 24 May, 2013, 01:58:29 PM
Dredd Blu Ray is currently going for £7 brand new on Amazon.

It's sitting at no.6 in their Blu Ray chart, and is also no.3 on Play.com, which can't be bad.


It's now at no. 2:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/dvd/383380011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_d_h__3_2_last/278-7994355-5318960

No. 18 on amazon US:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/movies-tv/2958935011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_mov_1_2

Facebook is going crazy with shares of the '£7 on Amazon' link!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 24 May, 2013, 06:30:46 PM
That's OK... More sales is good :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 24 May, 2013, 07:17:26 PM
Think the sequel is looking a little bit more of a reality as the link above may suggest. Cant be too much of a financial gamble now it has started to gain cult status and non fans petitioning for Dredd 2  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 24 May, 2013, 07:34:13 PM
Noticed something...Clan Techie is twiddling copper wire. Why copper wire I wondered? I know, this is insane...but 'copper' sounds like..

Heh...They're coming to take me away hah hah.

...and a 'Chopper' is a bike 'chopped' from different bikes...not unlike a cyborg.

Ok...I'm just heading back in to the wine cellar...it's friday...it's wacky.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 24 May, 2013, 07:41:28 PM
Just saw that Rebellion news, nearly shot my load!! :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 24 May, 2013, 07:51:44 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 24 May, 2013, 07:41:28 PM
Just saw that Rebellion news, nearly shot my load!! :o

...perception is reality...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 24 May, 2013, 07:53:50 PM
I can't stop scanning every film/ comic web site for it to be officially confirmed . I really need to get out more  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 24 May, 2013, 07:55:11 PM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 24 May, 2013, 07:51:44 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 24 May, 2013, 07:41:28 PM
Just saw that Rebellion news, nearly shot my load!! :o

...perception is reality...

To be fair, I HAVE been drinking!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 May, 2013, 07:58:38 PM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 24 May, 2013, 07:34:13 PM
Noticed something...Clan Techie is twiddling copper wire. Why copper wire I wondered? I know, this is insane...but 'copper' sounds like..

Heh...They're coming to take me away hah hah.

...and a 'Chopper' is a bike 'chopped' from different bikes...not unlike a cyborg.

Ok...I'm just heading back in to the wine cellar...it's friday...it's wacky.

Haha... I did said that about many pages ago... and I still think CLan Techie is Chopper!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 24 May, 2013, 08:02:54 PM
Don't hit me if you've seen it
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/05/24/dredd-movie-sequel-might-still-be-on-the-cards-say-rebellion-2000ads-publishers/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 May, 2013, 08:04:47 PM
Quote from: Rocketman on 24 May, 2013, 08:02:54 PM
Don't hit me if you've seen it
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/05/24/dredd-movie-sequel-might-still-be-on-the-cards-say-rebellion-2000ads-publishers/

5 or 50 hits on your shoulder? it been featured on same page above you :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 24 May, 2013, 08:08:43 PM
Apologies,there is beers involved....'ll get my coat  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 24 May, 2013, 08:13:02 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 24 May, 2013, 07:55:11 PM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 24 May, 2013, 07:51:44 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 24 May, 2013, 07:41:28 PM
Just saw that Rebellion news, nearly shot my load!! :o

...perception is reality...

To be fair, I HAVE been drinking!

...you are not alone.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 24 May, 2013, 08:13:55 PM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 24 May, 2013, 08:13:02 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 24 May, 2013, 07:55:11 PM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 24 May, 2013, 07:51:44 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 24 May, 2013, 07:41:28 PM
Just saw that Rebellion news, nearly shot my load!! :o

...perception is reality...

To be fair, I HAVE been drinking!

...you are not alone.

I love you man!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 24 May, 2013, 08:19:54 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 24 May, 2013, 08:13:55 PM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 24 May, 2013, 08:13:02 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 24 May, 2013, 07:55:11 PM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 24 May, 2013, 07:51:44 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 24 May, 2013, 07:41:28 PM
Just saw that Rebellion news, nearly shot my load!! :o

...perception is reality...

To be fair, I HAVE been drinking!

...you are not alone.

I love you man!

...I'm feeling oddly emotional and...slowly, bouyantly, raising my glass Chuffsteruk!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 24 May, 2013, 08:23:42 PM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 24 May, 2013, 08:19:54 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 24 May, 2013, 08:13:55 PM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 24 May, 2013, 08:13:02 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 24 May, 2013, 07:55:11 PM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 24 May, 2013, 07:51:44 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 24 May, 2013, 07:41:28 PM
Just saw that Rebellion news, nearly shot my load!! :o

...perception is reality...

To be fair, I HAVE been drinking!

...you are not alone.

I love you man!

...I'm feeling oddly emotional and...slowly, bouyantly, raising my glass Chuffsteruk!

:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 May, 2013, 08:30:58 PM



One thing I like to say;



KARL URBAN IS AWESOME AS DREDD!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 24 May, 2013, 08:31:28 PM
clan teck   i thought was chopper first time  watched movie
Quote from: junox on 17 September, 2012, 09:33:38 AM
inst  CHOPPER , the tech guy, with THE EYES ??
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 May, 2013, 09:31:09 PM

What the fucking, Bleeping Cool got first pirate copy of Dredd 2 comic sequel draft!

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/05/24/a-page-of-art-from-the-dredd-movie-sequel-which-isnt-itself-a-movie-at-least-yet/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/05/24/a-page-of-art-from-the-dredd-movie-sequel-which-isnt-itself-a-movie-at-least-yet/)

(http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads//2013/05/photo-2-2.jpg?802b89)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: chuffsteruk on 24 May, 2013, 10:16:42 PM
Interesting!Any idea who the artist is?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 24 May, 2013, 10:24:22 PM
Certainly looks like our Henry.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 24 May, 2013, 10:36:53 PM
Im not sure. It doesnt look like Henry's work at all, to me. Looks a bit like Jock's??
Could the art duties on this be a combination of artists working on the same page?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 24 May, 2013, 10:39:29 PM
Double post - no edit function.

Looking again, i can see traces of Henry's work on this, now. So pencilled by Flint and inked by Jock? Or visa versa, or non of the above,  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 24 May, 2013, 10:46:50 PM
Reminds me a bit of Charlie Adlard.

Oh and.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/05/24/dredd-movie-sequel-might-still-be-on-the-cards-say-rebellion-2000ads-publishers/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/05/24/dredd-movie-sequel-might-still-be-on-the-cards-say-rebellion-2000ads-publishers/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

But I still file that under 'saying positive things to keep interest in the comic sequel up'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 May, 2013, 11:26:06 PM


Quote from: Steve Green on 24 May, 2013, 10:46:50 PM
But I still file that under 'saying positive things to keep interest in the comic sequel up'


Looking at IMGlobal's roster of films and their box-office performance; DREDD is the best thing they have at the moment and will probably end up making the most money for them after all's said and done:

http://www.imglobalfilm.com/opus

Sure they'd be mad not to do anything else with it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 24 May, 2013, 11:53:28 PM
Think a sequel could turn a tidy profit if they strike while the irons hot and keep the exposure going and this time market it better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 May, 2013, 12:02:24 AM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 24 May, 2013, 11:53:28 PM
Think a sequel could turn a tidy profit if they strike while the irons hot and keep the exposure going and this time market it better.


Well even if it were to happen it wouldn't be out for another 3-4 years, maybe more, and Alex garland is working on his next film, Ex Machina.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 25 May, 2013, 12:41:49 AM
Looks like Mr Flint to me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 25 May, 2013, 12:59:16 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 May, 2013, 12:02:24 AM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 24 May, 2013, 11:53:28 PM
Think a sequel could turn a tidy profit if they strike while the irons hot and keep the exposure going and this time market it better.


Well even if it were to happen it wouldn't be out for another 3-4 years, maybe more, and Alex garland is working on his next film, Ex Machina.

And Urban's got Star Trek III: The Search for Pike.

Probably.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 25 May, 2013, 01:06:34 AM
In case you aren't reading the 'Petition' thread. A few thoughts on Dredd sequel request.

http://judgetutorsemple.wordpress.com/2013/05/24/want-a-sequel-to-alex-garlands-dredd/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 25 May, 2013, 02:23:26 AM
Just how much of a positive 'blowback' (for want of a better word) could a solid sequel do for the first film in any franchise ie what would the uplift be for the first film if the second has success.

Something else for the powers that be to consider (maybe a 20/25% spike long term on DVD/Blueray sales?)

Dredd 2 would have a wider backing prior to its release than the first given the sheer number of new converts to the cause.Given the same budget its looking less and less of a risk by the day........IMHO.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 May, 2013, 02:35:44 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 25 May, 2013, 02:23:26 AM
Just how much of a positive 'blowback' (for want of a better word) could a solid sequel do for the first film in any franchise ie what would the uplift be for the first film if the second has success.

Something else for the powers that be to consider (maybe a 20/25% spike long term on DVD/Blueray sales?)



The mere rumour of a sequel is doing that all ready.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 25 May, 2013, 08:46:43 AM
3-4 years is better than 15 joe  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 25 May, 2013, 09:58:10 AM
3 to 4 years would be acceptable aye.

With luck filming of two back to back with releases in 2016 & 2018 say... that'd be VERY cool. OK, getting very ahead of one's self... But no harm hoping.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 25 May, 2013, 11:42:14 AM
Agree with Bat King filming 2 back to back makes financial sense although it would tie all involved up for a lengthy period.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 25 May, 2013, 12:26:53 PM
 I'd say that the page was one of Henry Flints, it has his 'scratchiness' to it. I am a little disapointed that Dredd's face in the page looks like comic book Dredd in a movie uniform, as opposed to movie Dredd's face (Karl) in comic book form. Though I suppose this has something to do with getting permission for the use of Mr Urban's likeness. Still, I'm very much looking forward to this sequel. 
As Beadle68 says "3-4 years is better than 15" and filming Dredd 2 & 3 back to back would be the dream news that I'm sure we all long for.

Stew. (The ever hopeful)     
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Noisybast on 26 May, 2013, 12:02:03 PM
Whoever it is, they're channeling the mighty Ron Smith with the buildings in that first panel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 26 May, 2013, 03:55:59 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 May, 2013, 12:02:24 AM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 24 May, 2013, 11:53:28 PM
Think a sequel could turn a tidy profit if they strike while the irons hot and keep the exposure going and this time market it better.
Well even if it were to happen it wouldn't be out for another 3-4 years, maybe more, and Alex garland is working on his next film, Ex Machina.

Is there a chance of a sequel after all? Great! Ex Machina? Not Deux Ex Machina the cyberpunk game by any chance?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 May, 2013, 08:54:55 AM

I like that someone tweet;

Star Trek is about a brighter future, coming together and all that. Dredd is about how horrible and cruel the future is.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MattJW on 30 May, 2013, 04:02:38 PM
Not a bad comparison, though when reading Dredd as a kid, I found much about the strip incredibly fun and whacky. That's the beauty of Dredd - barmy entertainment against a grim backdrop.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 04 June, 2013, 02:08:34 PM
It'll be interesting to see how Kick-Ass 2 does theatrically with regards a hypothetical/improbable Dredd sequels prospects. After getting massive pre-release buzz and a big publicity push, the first one was considered, if not an outright flop, then a huge financial disappointment for Lionsgate (though it should be noted still made a buttload more cash than Dredd did).

However it eventually got a sequel - presumably off the back of healthy DVD and rental sales. Will the cult status and larger installed audience mean that this one will be a hit - in the same way that the Austin Powers franchise only became a mainstream $100m box office phenomenon after the first film took off on video?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 05 June, 2013, 11:53:18 PM
Anyone know the budget for that one? It's potentially a double edged sword if it doesn't do well, and I can't see myself booking a ticket based on the stuff they've released so far.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2013, 12:21:08 AM




The problem Lionsgate faced with Kick-Ass is their over-spend on the acquisition and promotion of the film. They bought the US rights for $15 million/worldwide rights for $45 million then spent $30 million promoting it. Even though it cost $28 million to make and pulled-in nearly $100 million at the box-office (of which Lionsgate get approx. half) they came up short. If the rumoured $100 million DVD sales are true it means the film might have earned some money but Lionsgate didn't take the oppurtunity to make or distribute the sequel...they passed the rights on solely to Universal.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 06 June, 2013, 11:16:37 AM
How do you know all this stuff?!?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 June, 2013, 11:44:00 AM


Maybe it was on Wiki?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2013, 01:05:58 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 June, 2013, 11:44:00 AM
Maybe it was on Wiki?

Nope.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 06 June, 2013, 01:27:38 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 June, 2013, 01:05:58 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 June, 2013, 11:44:00 AM
Maybe it was on Wiki?
Nope.

So, as I have long suspected, JOE SOAP is a secret member of the Bildeburg group meeting in Watford this very day! Hail to the great Lizard I say!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10102170/Bilderberg-Group-2013-guest-list-and-agenda.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 06 June, 2013, 08:30:55 PM
QuoteThe Bilderberg, the secretive annual gathering of businessmen, politicians and defence officials, today meets at The Grove hotel in Watford. This is the guest list and agenda in full.

Is it just me, or does that not sound very secretive?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 08 June, 2013, 06:48:44 PM
Had an or so spare today so it was watch Dredd or enter the june art comp which I have a good idea for this month but had to say not seen the film for a few weeks been very busy with work so needed my fix. That was the quickest hour and half   ever the film still keeps giving, still seeing little things in the background not had this much pleasure out of a film EVER. I know I've just opened myself up to smutty remarks there lol  :lol:. Any further news/ progress from anyone campaigning for the sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 08 June, 2013, 07:56:22 PM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 08 June, 2013, 06:48:44 PMAny further news/ progress from anyone campaigning for the sequel.
Que Cpt. Clemments weekly desk torture.

Alas it appears the answer is no.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 June, 2013, 08:21:57 AM

Nice to see Dredd as No. 7 in Worst to Best Superhero Movie Costumes (bit wrong as he not superhero!)


Nice trivia I didn't knew;
Urban wears it like a pro – probably because he put the suit on for two weeks before filming to get used to it.

http://www.totalfilm.com/features/worst-to-best-superhero-movie-costumes/dredd-dredd-2012 (http://www.totalfilm.com/features/worst-to-best-superhero-movie-costumes/dredd-dredd-2012)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 June, 2013, 08:31:43 AM

I found it online, I like that little poster;

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Szz-yp21KfI/UPD1m0WXf8I/AAAAAAAASuo/L44NcWVjAA4/s1600/Dredd+3D+Poster.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 12 June, 2013, 11:47:56 AM
thats a cool picture  Joe.. i think this was made for a DVD

http://www.customaniacs.org/forum/tomkru-labels/176921-dredd.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 12 June, 2013, 11:52:41 AM
there been loads  made on fan art if you guys search DREDD 3d  dvd  covers there a bundle out there

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dodsy on 12 June, 2013, 07:07:57 PM
People are currently trying to get #bringbackdredd and #makeadreddsequel trending on Twitter. Join in the fun people
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 June, 2013, 09:24:54 PM


That's why Urban so perfect as Dredd.

New pic

(http://i.imgur.com/To8RXjh.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 13 June, 2013, 04:50:47 PM
Great pic, but I'm disappointed Goaty doesn't put each of these in a new thread. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 June, 2013, 11:49:28 AM


This one's for Burdis: the man in the video considers dressing up like Judge Dredd is a bad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiifSOBulO0&t=1m24s) thing.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 15 June, 2013, 11:52:48 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 June, 2013, 04:34:50 PM

Another feature in Empire;

When Is A Remake Not A Remake?
Dredd (2012)
Call it:
The first proper make

Our friends in the US are guiltier of dubbing this a "remake" than we are here in the UK, largely down to a lack of familiarity with the very British source material. To many, Judge Dredd is simply a character from a bad Stallone movie (although that film does have some strengths, mostly in the production design). To the rest of us, the satirical dystopian fascist lawman is a mainstay of 2000AD, a comic we grew up with, and the new film was an opportunity to get the material right. "It's irritating," growled Dredd's creator John Wagner to Empire last year. "It's not a remake, it's a proper make!" And if anyone feels like trying to be a smartarse, it's not a remake of The Raid either. Dredd was in production first, and the similarities are coincidence.

http://www.empireonline.com/features/dont-call-it-a-remake/p3 (http://www.empireonline.com/features/dont-call-it-a-remake/p3)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 17 June, 2013, 05:29:30 PM
Even better if we could all 'call it' the first part of the Dredd trilogy....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 17 June, 2013, 07:12:49 PM
Even better had these UK mags now banging on about how good Dredd was had actually given it more than a mildly positive review.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 17 June, 2013, 07:40:30 PM
QuoteEven better had these UK mags now banging on about how good Dredd was had actually given it more than a mildly positive review.

Yep. Can't believe they get in such a lather over very mediocre and clearly flawed blockbuster fare like Star Trek Into Darkness, Dark Knight Rises and Man of Steel, when the homegrown (sort of) Dredd is so clearly a superior film that people will actually still care about after the hype has died down. Three stars indeed!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2013, 07:45:22 PM


It's good to keep in mind that more than one person reviews films or writes articles/features in these mags. One particular reviewer may like the film you like or may not; luck of the draw.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 17 June, 2013, 08:00:52 PM
Empire gave Dredd some massive coverage. It wasn't their fault that people did not go and see it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 17 June, 2013, 08:22:10 PM
Anyone see if DREDD was stocked in Tesco, haven't seen it in there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2013, 08:25:03 PM

Quote from: SneakeeX on 17 June, 2013, 08:22:10 PM
Anyone see if DREDD was stocked in Tesco, haven't seen it in there.


Well not Tesco Ireland but that's kind of self-explanatory. UK stores have plenty, I believe.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 17 June, 2013, 08:47:03 PM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 17 June, 2013, 08:22:10 PM
Anyone see if DREDD was stocked in Tesco, haven't seen it in there.

Yup, millions of them.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 17 June, 2013, 10:13:51 PM
I gave it a positive review!

No one read it almost... but it was positive!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 17 June, 2013, 10:15:21 PM
http://judgetutorsemple.wordpress.com/2012/08/31/dredd-3d-fan-prerelease-screening-no-spoilers/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 June, 2013, 08:14:53 AM
AMAZING LEAKED TEST FOOTAGE FROM DREDD: EUROPEAN DISC EASTER EGG (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mmmfGFwZrvQ#t=4s) :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 18 June, 2013, 08:40:54 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 June, 2013, 08:14:53 AM
AMAZING LEAKED TEST FOOTAGE FROM DREDD: EUROPEAN DISC EASTER EGG (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mmmfGFwZrvQ#t=4s) :o
Ma-Ma, that's not what a lamp shade is for. Go home Ma, you are high!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 June, 2013, 08:54:21 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 June, 2013, 08:14:53 AM
AMAZING LEAKED TEST FOOTAGE FROM DREDD: EUROPEAN DISC EASTER EGG (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mmmfGFwZrvQ#t=4s) :o

Haha! First time to say it, the helment too big!



Or small chin?  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 18 June, 2013, 05:34:33 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 June, 2013, 08:14:53 AM
AMAZING LEAKED TEST FOOTAGE FROM DREDD: EUROPEAN DISC EASTER EGG (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mmmfGFwZrvQ#t=4s) :o

That's another cameo for radiator (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmmfGFwZrvQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=42s).

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 18 June, 2013, 05:43:00 PM
Mustn't break the chain, by not quoting CF

Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 June, 2013, 08:14:53 AM
AMAZING LEAKED TEST FOOTAGE FROM DREDD: EUROPEAN DISC EASTER EGG (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mmmfGFwZrvQ#t=4s) :o

Ha! That's darn pretty good, isnt it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 18 June, 2013, 05:53:52 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 18 June, 2013, 05:34:33 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 June, 2013, 08:14:53 AM
AMAZING LEAKED TEST FOOTAGE FROM DREDD: EUROPEAN DISC EASTER EGG (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mmmfGFwZrvQ#t=4s) :o

That's another cameo for radiator (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmmfGFwZrvQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=42s).

Well, I didn't want to gloat about it.

I'm off to update my IMDB entry.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 18 June, 2013, 07:10:13 PM
Oh, look... they still have Spar shops in the future.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 June, 2013, 08:22:44 PM


One IMDB poster got really good point, when someone post about why that Ma-Ma always takes baths but never brush her rotten teeth;

Oddly enough, there is a scene in the film that might have a bearing on this.
When Dredd peels back the lips on one of the three skydiving corpses at the start of the film, he points out the burns from Slo-mo inhaler use.
Pretty safe bet that if it's burning the gums and lips, it's not doing wonders for the teeth enamel either.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 June, 2013, 08:55:45 AM


Dredd features in another Total Film feature - 50 Awesome Movie Apocalypses

http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-awesome-movie-apocalypses/dredd-2012 (http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-awesome-movie-apocalypses/dredd-2012)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: nicklambo on 20 June, 2013, 09:26:22 AM
Dredd is now being advertised on SKY.... :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 22 June, 2013, 05:12:21 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 June, 2013, 08:25:03 PM

Quote from: SneakeeX on 17 June, 2013, 08:22:10 PM
Anyone see if DREDD was stocked in Tesco, haven't seen it in there.


Well not Tesco Ireland but that's kind of self-explanatory. UK stores have plenty, I believe.
Stupid question, why?? Is it just my own local one, or can you get them in other Irish stores?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dodsy on 22 June, 2013, 09:40:18 PM
From the 'Make a Dredd sequel' Facebook page:

QuoteSEQUEL NEWS!

From an UNCONFIRMED SOURCE, it has come to this page's attention that DNA Films will be reviewing the blu-ray/DVD sales of DREDD in the coming weeks and will be deciding whether or not to make a sequel. If this is true, let's show them how much we want that sequel! If you haven't already, please buy the DVD or blu-ray! More news soon!

With SDCC just around the corner is it possible they could be thinking about making an announcement at the con?

https://www.facebook.com/MakeADreddSequel (https://www.facebook.com/MakeADreddSequel)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 June, 2013, 09:43:58 PM
Hmmm - an 'unconfirmed source' eh?

I always got the impression that DNA would very much like to make another Dredd, but it isn't really their decision is it? DVD sales figures aside, if they can't distributor support in place, there's no hope for a sequel either way.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 June, 2013, 10:26:42 PM
Quote from: radiator on 22 June, 2013, 09:43:58 PM
I always got the impression that DNA would very much like to make another Dredd, but it isn't really their decision is it? DVD sales figures aside, if they can't distributor support in place, there's no hope for a sequel either way.


Well if retail sales were genuinely and evidently strong enough, the distributors would be the first to know.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 June, 2013, 11:55:57 PM
Nice to hear isn't it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 June, 2013, 11:58:43 PM


Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 June, 2013, 11:55:57 PM
Nice to hear isn't it!


You didn't think they'd forget us now?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 June, 2013, 11:59:03 PM
QuoteMORE FROM THE SOURCE REGARDING DREDD SEQUEL:

DNA will know in the next few weeks whether the important DVD/Blu-ray sales have boosted the overall profits on the movie enough to consider a sequel. Tell everyone to start their letter writing and sharing of the film in earnest as this could be the last chance for a number of years or never!

Interesting. Last I heard was that it was still yet to make a profit...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 June, 2013, 12:00:54 AM
Quote from: radiator on 22 June, 2013, 11:59:03 PM
QuoteMORE FROM THE SOURCE REGARDING DREDD SEQUEL:

DNA will know in the next few weeks whether the important DVD/Blu-ray sales have boosted the overall profits on the movie enough to consider a sequel. Tell everyone to start their letter writing and sharing of the film in earnest as this could be the last chance for a number of years or never!

Interesting. Last I heard was that it was still yet to make a profit...

And.... so?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 June, 2013, 12:04:29 AM
Quote from: radiator on 22 June, 2013, 11:59:03 PM
Interesting. Last I heard was that it was still yet to make a profit...


6 months down the line:


http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/dvd/383380011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_d_h__3_2_last
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 June, 2013, 12:05:51 AM


Awesome, Dredd still in charts 6 months later!!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 23 June, 2013, 12:30:20 AM
Reasons to be cheerful!!!!!       :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 June, 2013, 12:45:43 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 23 June, 2013, 12:30:20 AM
Reasons to be cheerful!!!!!       :D


..and why not- he was in a Dredd film (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIMNXogXnvE) (of sorts).


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 23 June, 2013, 01:08:43 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 June, 2013, 12:45:43 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 23 June, 2013, 12:30:20 AM
Reasons to be cheerful!!!!!       :D


..and why not- he was in a Dredd film (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIMNXogXnvE) (of sorts).

:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 23 June, 2013, 07:39:54 AM
What a great bit of unconfirmed  ;) news to wake upto . A ray of sunshine in my otherwise drab existence  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 23 June, 2013, 05:39:18 PM
Keep sharing and clicking likes on the Dredd sequel FaceBook campaign.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DrJomster on 23 June, 2013, 06:40:16 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 23 June, 2013, 05:39:18 PM
Keep sharing and clicking likes on the Dredd sequel FaceBook campaign.

This. Lots.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 23 June, 2013, 07:16:19 PM
I keep sharing and liking every time I'm on FB.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 23 June, 2013, 08:07:32 PM
And why not grab yourself another copy of the movie to help the cause along?

Especially as it's only £6.00 on Blu-ray from Sainsbury's!!!!!! ;)


http://www.sainsburysentertainment.co.uk/en/Films-TV/Blu-ray/Karl-Urban/Dredd-Blu-Ray-3D-Plus-Blu-Ray/product.html?product=E11156586



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 23 June, 2013, 09:34:31 PM
I have emailed IM Global & DNA Films regarding a sequel... you can read it on my Blog http://judgetutorsemple.wordpress.com/2013/06/23/my-e-mail-regarding-a-sequel-to-dredd/ (http://judgetutorsemple.wordpress.com/2013/06/23/my-e-mail-regarding-a-sequel-to-dredd/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 23 June, 2013, 10:15:04 PM
Excellent evidence for a sequel. Lets hope they take heed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 June, 2013, 10:59:57 PM


Back at being No. 1 blu-ray on amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/dvd/383380011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_d_h__1_2_last).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 23 June, 2013, 11:42:19 PM
Good show!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 23 June, 2013, 11:46:03 PM
money well spent.  :thumbsup:  Somebody ring Karl Urban and tell him to dust his uniform off he's going to need it again  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 24 June, 2013, 12:04:42 AM
Just saw this on twitter and rushed over here hoping for the scoop haha

Can't believe it's number 1 on Amazon

I'm trying not to get too excited just incase I get disappointed
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 24 June, 2013, 07:04:45 AM
Number one again, six months after it was released, is just completely and utterly mental. Good show! (Bought another copy for myself. ;) )
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 June, 2013, 08:05:11 AM


Awesome, and it's 28 on US chart.

Wasn't it cos of Marvel's Ryan Penagos (@agentM) has tweeted this about Dredd two days ago. He has 1.3 million followers:

22 Jun
WOW. Dredd was FANTASTIC. Karl Urban was on point. And the soundtrack was killer. Fingers crossed for a sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 24 June, 2013, 09:24:07 AM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 24 June, 2013, 07:04:45 AM
Number one again, six months after it was released, is just completely and utterly mental. Good show! (Bought another copy for myself. ;) )
It's bonkers but also local. Dredd's not even in the top-100 on Amazon.com (it's #184, and #7 in sci-fi). Now, if it could be pushed high in the US charts, that would be very interesting.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 24 June, 2013, 09:29:46 AM
It also seems to sell a lot better on Blu Ray than DVD, which is a far smaller market isn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong on either point, but it just never seemed to trouble the DVD chart in the same way that it has the Blu Ray chart.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 June, 2013, 01:54:52 PM
Quote from: radiator on 24 June, 2013, 09:29:46 AM
It also seems to sell a lot better on Blu Ray than DVD, which is a far smaller market isn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong on either point, but it just never seemed to trouble the DVD chart in the same way that it has the Blu Ray chart.


It's a smaller market that accounts for about a fifth of physical sales and grew by about 44% this Spring but blu-rays cost more so they add a little more with each disc sold. DREDD is the #2 best-selling blu-ray on amazon UK (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/2013/dvd/ref=zg_bsar_cal_ye) so far this year, Skyfall is #1. In overall sales (blu-ray & dvd) Skyfall is the only blu-ray in the Top Ten at #3, Dredd is the next at #11 so it's out-seling most DVDs, at least on amazon. That wouldn't be a direct correllative for national retail sales but DREDD is at #13 in the Top 40 (http://www.officialcharts.com/blu-ray-chart/) blu-rays.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 24 June, 2013, 02:31:27 PM
[Anti-Sauchie missiles primed] Did someone say sequel?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 24 June, 2013, 03:48:19 PM
Pre booked my seats at cineworld for Dredd 2 3D off the back of this great news.

;-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 24 June, 2013, 04:06:25 PM
Oh btw, saw on Twitter the other day that the Prince Charles cinema in London is doing double bills of Robocop and Dredd (2D) on the 22nd and the 30th of July.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 June, 2013, 04:26:26 PM


Great double bill!


Now it 24 on Amazon US!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 24 June, 2013, 05:16:47 PM
That's... quite the leap from when I looked earlier.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 June, 2013, 09:05:50 AM


Now there will be Taken 3??

Stupid Hollywood.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 June, 2013, 09:22:10 AM
It's all down to money in the end and that's why the news about the disc sales is very interesting at this current moment. Obviously it could all be just a big ploy to get more sales but if they wanted more sales, especially in the UK, they could've produced a Mega-Steel Tin, as we would all rush out and buy it.

The next few weeks are going to be very interesting indeed!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 25 June, 2013, 09:23:34 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 25 June, 2013, 09:05:50 AM


Now there will be Taken 3??

Stupid Hollywood.

"I don't think there'll be a 'Taken 3.'" - Neeson in 2012

I guess it might of been the $20 million paycheck that changed his mind :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 25 June, 2013, 09:33:44 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 June, 2013, 09:22:10 AMIt's all down to money in the end and that's why the news about the disc sales is very interesting at this current moment. Obviously it could all be just a big ploy to get more sales but if they wanted more sales, especially in the UK, they could've produced a Mega-Steel Tin, as we would all rush out and buy it.
I think if anything, the shiny disc sales have proved that there was a larger market for Dredd than the box office returns would have suggested. The risk for any future movie is in discovering exactly what that market is.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 25 June, 2013, 10:18:53 AM
£157,000,000 jackpot tonight on Euromillions.

If I win I will send DNA Films another e-mail...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 25 June, 2013, 10:24:52 AM
Don't want to piss on anyone's chips but I'm pretty certain the guy on that Facebook page is making all of this 'mystery insider' guff up in an effort to make people buy Blu Rays (just read the 'update' from yesterday - it's clearly nonsense). I would suggest everyone take it with an ENORMOUS dose of salt.

It's great that Dredd seems to have done well on home video, but there were a lot of us saying that would be the case before the film even came out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 June, 2013, 10:31:56 AM


For first time on Dredd thread, Radiator, be positive. It good for Dredd on home video... who knows what around the corner, but no need to post negative posts about there wouldn't be sequel etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 25 June, 2013, 10:45:31 AM
Yeah, being negative is my job.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 25 June, 2013, 11:21:25 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 June, 2013, 09:22:10 AM
if they wanted more sales, especially in the UK, they could've produced a Mega-Steel Tin, as we would all rush out and buy it.

Without a doubt.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 June, 2013, 11:22:45 AM


Sorry Master.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 25 June, 2013, 11:59:41 AM
Gaining traction. Let's hope more sites pick up the story and spur further sales...

Does someone want to see about sending the word out to bigger news sites?

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a492880/dredd-3d-sequel-rumour-causes-dvd-sales-spike.html (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a492880/dredd-3d-sequel-rumour-causes-dvd-sales-spike.html)

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2013/06/dredd-sequel-rumor-causes-dvd-sales-spike/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2013/06/dredd-sequel-rumor-causes-dvd-sales-spike/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dodsy on 25 June, 2013, 12:47:08 PM
I reported it to Bleeding Cool but as far as I know they have done nothing with it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 June, 2013, 01:02:24 PM


And is DVD/Blu-Ray out in Japan tomorrow?

;)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 25 June, 2013, 02:09:56 PM
If Bleeding Cool find it news-unworthy...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 25 June, 2013, 03:57:21 PM
Quote from: radiator on 24 June, 2013, 04:06:25 PM
Oh btw, saw on Twitter the other day that the Prince Charles cinema in London is doing double bills of Robocop and Dredd (2D) on the 22nd and the 30th of July.

Went to The Raid, Robocop and Dredd all nighter a while back at the PC and it was brilliant.

Hope to make the 30/07/13 double bill this time around!

Anyone else?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 June, 2013, 07:49:04 PM



C'mon Hollywood: Give us a Dredd sequel! (http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/cmon-hollywood-give-us-a-dredd-sequel)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 June, 2013, 07:57:56 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 June, 2013, 07:49:04 PM



C'mon Hollywood: Give us a Dredd sequel! (http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/cmon-hollywood-give-us-a-dredd-sequel)

Great article!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 25 June, 2013, 08:01:36 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 June, 2013, 07:49:04 PM



C'mon Hollywood: Give us a Dredd sequel! (http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/cmon-hollywood-give-us-a-dredd-sequel)

If it'll get us a sequel I'll go out and purchase a few copies as gifts right now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 June, 2013, 08:04:22 PM
This is the time to bring out a MEGA version crammed full of everything ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 25 June, 2013, 08:10:09 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 June, 2013, 08:04:22 PM
This is the time to bring out a MEGA version crammed full of everything ;)

How much would it cost to have an edition where Karl personally delivers it to your home dressed as Dredd?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 June, 2013, 08:11:30 PM
Don't tell me that yours didn't arrive like that! That's why I bought so many copies  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 June, 2013, 08:12:10 PM
Quote from: von Boom on 25 June, 2013, 08:10:09 PM
How much would it cost to have an edition where Karl personally delivers it to your home dressed as Dredd?

Well I got this "Hello, Goaty" from Karl at London preview screening... ;) but as Dredd, oh yes!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 25 June, 2013, 08:19:12 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 June, 2013, 08:11:30 PM
Don't tell me that yours didn't arrive like that! That's why I bought so many copies  ;)

Dredd: The Ultimate Experience Edition

Karl (dressed as Dredd) bursts through your door, knocks you unconscious with his day stick, and leaves your disc in the spreading pool of your own dribble. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 25 June, 2013, 10:46:43 PM
io9 are doing a feature/discussion on the best films that flopped at the box office. Guess which film is getting the most mentions...

http://io9.com/whats-the-best-movie-that-failed-at-the-box-office-577319489 (http://io9.com/whats-the-best-movie-that-failed-at-the-box-office-577319489)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 26 June, 2013, 01:48:29 AM
Quote from: radiator on 25 June, 2013, 10:24:52 AM
Don't want to piss on anyone's chips but I'm pretty certain the guy on that Facebook page is making all of this 'mystery insider' guff up in an effort to make people buy Blu Rays (just read the 'update' from yesterday - it's clearly nonsense). I would suggest everyone take it with an ENORMOUS dose of salt.

It's great that Dredd seems to have done well on home video, but there were a lot of us saying that would be the case before the film even came out.

I agree... I'm not sold on that rumour.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 June, 2013, 09:27:31 AM

Tomorrow early morning I am away for 5 days, and hopefully on back there is Sequel...? Well I can try to hope!

And cameros featured many of boarders in it as perps!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 26 June, 2013, 02:07:21 PM
I'm not holding my breath, personally..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 June, 2013, 02:55:53 PM


Quote from: Michaelvk on 26 June, 2013, 02:07:21 PM
I'm not holding my breath, personally..

You could hold someone else's?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 26 June, 2013, 03:21:43 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 26 June, 2013, 02:07:21 PM
I'm not holding my breath, personally..

STOP BEING NEGATIVE!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 26 June, 2013, 04:38:05 PM
They need you back on the gun designs for Dredd 3D 2 Michael. All the original props got sold off on eBay :-)-
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Michaelvk on 26 June, 2013, 07:46:12 PM
Sorry Rich..

Nuh-uh.. eBay has a no guns policy..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 26 June, 2013, 07:47:41 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 26 June, 2013, 07:46:12 PM
Sorry Rich..

Nuh-uh.. eBay has a no guns policy..

Heh! <aside> I don't mind, but y'know, Goaty get's upset...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 26 June, 2013, 07:54:15 PM
What percentage of DVD/Blue Ray sales do the film makers receive?
Do we have a grand total for these sales to date?

The bottom line for any business (when searching to make a profit) is looking for an opportunity and exploiting it. Looking around the web it still isn't hard to find new material from those who want a sequel.

The mistakes of the first vis-à-vis marketing, 2D prints etc etc are known and widely accepted and they obviously have a wider/stronger platform to go from than before(the 95 version now being eclipsed like the risible Batman and Robin was).

Remember making Dredd in the first place was a bit of a punt. Making a sequel ,given the on-going online and retail  response, on the same budget would be less of a gamble IMHO.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 June, 2013, 08:07:54 PM

Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 26 June, 2013, 07:54:15 PM
Do we have a grand total for these sales to date?


Nope, and likely never will unless DNA/IMGlobal decided to release totals. Chart-companies are legally bound to not release specific figures publicly or for academic study.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 26 June, 2013, 08:19:49 PM
Do you know what their cut is for each DVD/Blueray ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 June, 2013, 08:26:23 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 26 June, 2013, 08:19:49 PM
Do you know what their cut is for each DVD/Blueray ?


Hard to know the exact cut depending on ownership but it's more than the box-office cut.





Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 June, 2013, 08:30:28 PM


DREDD steelbook (Japan) 2D only:


(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/pbtour4il/DVD_COVER_9/Dredd_JP/DSC_1527.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/pbtour4il/DVD_COVER_9/Dredd_JP/DSC_1525.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/pbtour4il/DVD_COVER_9/Dredd_JP/DSC_1526.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/pbtour4il/DVD_COVER_9/Dredd_JP/DSC_1528.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/pbtour4il/DVD_COVER_9/Dredd_JP/DSC_1529.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/pbtour4il/DVD_COVER_9/Dredd_JP/DSC_1531.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 26 June, 2013, 09:24:37 PM
Nice!

There has GOT to be a UK/US special edition of some sort on the horizon, surely? I know there's been no word, but it's sold enough to warrant it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 27 June, 2013, 07:17:39 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 June, 2013, 08:30:28 PM


DREDD steelbook (Japan) 2D only:


(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/pbtour4il/DVD_COVER_9/Dredd_JP/DSC_1527.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/pbtour4il/DVD_COVER_9/Dredd_JP/DSC_1525.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/pbtour4il/DVD_COVER_9/Dredd_JP/DSC_1526.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/pbtour4il/DVD_COVER_9/Dredd_JP/DSC_1528.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/pbtour4il/DVD_COVER_9/Dredd_JP/DSC_1529.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/pbtour4il/DVD_COVER_9/Dredd_JP/DSC_1531.jpg)




Mine's on it's way!

Ordered from here, which has the cheapest postage I've found so far.



http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Movie_000000000043933/item_Dredd-First-Press-Limited-Steel-Book_5392868?ref=dp_sim_1
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 27 June, 2013, 09:53:47 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 26 June, 2013, 07:54:15 PMRemember making Dredd in the first place was a bit of a punt. Making a sequel ,given the on-going online and retail  response, on the same budget would be less of a gamble IMHO.
Not really. Just as many sequels do worse than their predecessors, not better, and Dredd, despite this flurry of activity at retail, never hit the same dizzy heights in the US as in the UK. I think any Dredd sequel would be a massive gamble, but at least if someone did go for it, they'd know there's at least some appetite for the character now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 27 June, 2013, 10:24:00 AM
Oh, I think it's safe to say a sequel would do significantly better now that the first film has an established fanbase who mostly picked up the film on home formats. There would be so much more hype and attention for film two, now that the original has so many vocal fans.

Whether it would do enough more business to make it a bona fide hit is anyone's guess - my guess is that it would take maybe two or three times the amount of box office that the first one did, potentially making it a modest hit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2013, 11:49:50 AM


Quote from: IndigoPrime on 27 June, 2013, 09:53:47 AM
Not really. Just as many sequels do worse than their predecessors, not better, and Dredd, despite this flurry of activity at retail, never hit the same dizzy heights in the US as in the UK.


That's common when the initial film is a huge box-office success and there's a high plateau to fall from but there's been too few cases of a sequel originating from low box-office and high retail to make a decent comparison: Punisher: War Zone is the closest example* but that was a troubled reboot with a whole new crew, cast and studio rather than a sequel; it's also considered to be a poorer quality film than the previous. Worthwhile to note that DREDD still made more in both US box-office and retail than anywhere else.


*There is the Atlas Shrugged trilogy that has lost money with each successive film but there's a unique agenda and history surrounding it and it's self-financed by wealthy ideologues.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 27 June, 2013, 11:52:35 AM
Be very interesting to see how Kick-Ass 2 fares at the box office - providing it doesn't turn out to be a complete stinker of course.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 27 June, 2013, 12:15:25 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 27 June, 2013, 09:53:47 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 26 June, 2013, 07:54:15 PMRemember making Dredd in the first place was a bit of a punt. Making a sequel ,given the on-going online and retail  response, on the same budget would be less of a gamble IMHO.
Not really. Just as many sequels do worse than their predecessors, not better, and Dredd, despite this flurry of activity at retail, never hit the same dizzy heights in the US as in the UK. I think any Dredd sequel would be a massive gamble, but at least if someone did go for it, they'd know there's at least some appetite for the character now.

As already posted by Joe and Radiator ,given the low base and now wider appeal its highly unlikely any sequel would actually fare worse at the US Box Office.

Given the dross being pumped out at the moment like World War Zzzzzzzz, we just need someone with a bit of vision to get behind a Dredd sequel. Can someone push a script under Chris Nolan's nose...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2013, 12:24:58 PM

Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 27 June, 2013, 12:15:25 PM
Can someone push a script under Chris Nolan's nose...?


I don't think Nolan has much interest in comic characters plus they couldn't afford him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2013, 12:32:20 PM


He's also owned by Warner Bros.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dodsy on 27 June, 2013, 12:39:05 PM
Still no sequel announced yet?

I've said it elsewhere (may not have been on these boards, can't remember) but I think if we are going to hear anything it'll be at SDCC in 3 weeks (18th - 21st July).
How great would it be if at the 2000AD panel (I'm assuming there is one again this year) they announced that the comic 'sequel' in the Meg is actually the first part of a multi part bridge between the two movies  with the second movie coming out in 2015-16?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 27 June, 2013, 01:29:37 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2013, 12:24:58 PM

Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 27 June, 2013, 12:15:25 PM
Can someone push a script under Chris Nolan's nose...?


I don't think Nolan has much interest in comic characters plus they couldn't afford him.

Not to offer him the gig, just to show him what he's missing  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2013, 01:37:59 PM



Just send him a prog.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 27 June, 2013, 02:58:39 PM
Isn't Nolan an old-school 2000ad fan? ISTR him referencing it in an interview.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Woolly on 27 June, 2013, 09:20:45 PM
Quote from: radiator on 27 June, 2013, 11:52:35 AM
Be very interesting to see how Kick-Ass 2 fares at the box office - providing it doesn't turn out to be a complete stinker of course.

Well, considering the truly awful source material, stinker is probably the best we can hope for!

As for a Dredd sequel - i reckon a similar budgeted production to the first film (but shot in 2D) wouldn't be that much of a gamble at all (and not having to spend money on the 3D effects would effectively raise the budget, no?).
As Radiator said, Dredd 3D found much of its audience after the cinema run, could mean a potentially larger box office taking second time round.

Also, considering the community buzz and media interest surrounding the original production, a surprise sequel could generate tons of free publicity.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2013, 09:32:02 PM


I think if there ever is to be any feature continuation they're aiming for a higher budget.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2013, 10:45:16 PM



DREDD's Last Hope (http://www.soundonsight.org/dredds-last-hope/)



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 27 June, 2013, 11:10:06 PM
The most charitable technical term is 'fluffer'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2013, 11:27:56 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 27 June, 2013, 11:10:06 PM
The most charitable technical term is 'fluffer'.


Oh to be the fluffed.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 27 June, 2013, 11:38:25 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 27 June, 2013, 11:10:06 PM
The most charitable technical term is 'fluffer'.

Harsh in the extreme. Seems a genuine fan to me and his site is doing a lotof good in terms of promoting Dredd regardless of the prospects of success or failure.

If only a few more people become aware of Dredd and come to appreciate it, as we do, then this campaign will be a success, regardless of the final outcome.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 27 June, 2013, 11:44:03 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 27 June, 2013, 11:38:25 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 27 June, 2013, 11:10:06 PM
The most charitable technical term is 'fluffer'.

Harsh in the extreme.

I was referring to Mr. Soap!  Getting us all excited before passing us on to someone else with no guarantees...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 27 June, 2013, 11:48:56 PM
Oops , humble apologies Tordel
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2013, 11:52:05 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 27 June, 2013, 11:44:03 PM
I was referring to Mr. Soap!  Getting us all excited before passing us on to someone else with no guarantees...


I'm a firm believer in saving-up (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Saving-up).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 28 June, 2013, 12:15:21 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2013, 10:45:16 PM



DREDD's Last Hope (http://www.soundonsight.org/dredds-last-hope/)
FRANK: Before seeing DREDD in theaters, I hadn't read the comics and was really only familiar with the Stallone film (a problem that prevented most people from seeing the movie I think). I don't really think the theatrical trailer really captured what the movie is all about either.


Nail -on- head

Dredd 2 would have a far far better starting point.... :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 28 June, 2013, 10:40:02 AM
The Japanese trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ86Y2QN5Ak) does better (although it's still flabby). The international one needed more action, less plot/noodling and a bit more Anderson to show off the film's gender balance. (It was quite galling to read all the reviews about Iron Man 3 apparently 'pioneering' gender equality in comic-book movies, given how well Dredd performed in that area.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 June, 2013, 12:50:01 PM
I'm not really sure how Iron Man 3 pioneered gender equality. I must've missed that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 28 June, 2013, 02:23:04 PM
https://www.facebook.com/questions/10151427822675755

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 28 June, 2013, 02:32:24 PM
The rapidly building number of answers of 'Dredd' are hilarious. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 June, 2013, 02:46:41 PM
haha wow
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 June, 2013, 02:48:21 PM
now that's a cult following if I ever saw one, pretty much every comment is Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 June, 2013, 02:53:06 PM
also, sorry for the multiple posts, but that new admin "Brian" on the facebook page sure likes insulting people. Hope it doesn't effect the cause.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 28 June, 2013, 03:15:30 PM
Quote from: Stan on 28 June, 2013, 12:50:01 PMI'm not really sure how Iron Man 3 pioneered gender equality. I must've missed that.
Yeah, it's not exactly brimming with equality. I imagine it's down to perceived subversion in [spoiler]Potts ending up in one of the suits and also kicking some arse later on[/spoiler], but that ignores the fact [spoiler]she's basically 'damsel in distress' elsewhere[/spoiler] and the generally male-centric film as a whole, rather like pretty much every other Marvel/DC flick.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 June, 2013, 03:58:52 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 27 June, 2013, 07:17:39 AM
Ordered from here, which has the cheapest postage I've found so far.

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Movie_000000000043933/item_Dredd-First-Press-Limited-Steel-Book_5392868?ref=dp_sim_1

Cheers dweezil2, just paid for mine  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 June, 2013, 04:09:42 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 28 June, 2013, 03:15:30 PM
Quote from: Stan on 28 June, 2013, 12:50:01 PMI'm not really sure how Iron Man 3 pioneered gender equality. I must've missed that.
Yeah, it's not exactly brimming with equality. I imagine it's down to perceived subversion in [spoiler]Potts ending up in one of the suits and also kicking some arse later on[/spoiler], but that ignores the fact [spoiler]she's basically 'damsel in distress' elsewhere[/spoiler] and the generally male-centric film as a whole, rather like pretty much every other Marvel/DC flick.

That's really all I could think of when you brought it up. It actually felt a little forced to me anyway, as a way to beef up her role with a bit of girl power. Whereas Anderson saving both herself and Dredd felt completely natural.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 28 June, 2013, 06:33:34 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 28 June, 2013, 02:32:24 PM
The rapidly building number of answers of 'Dredd' are hilarious. :D

Last time I looked, Dredd was winning about 6:1 over nearest rival, The Hobbit — looked again just now and it's 8:1...!

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 28 June, 2013, 07:09:15 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 June, 2013, 03:58:52 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 27 June, 2013, 07:17:39 AM
Ordered from here, which has the cheapest postage I've found so far.

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Movie_000000000043933/item_Dredd-First-Press-Limited-Steel-Book_5392868?ref=dp_sim_1

Cheers dweezil2, just paid for mine  :thumbsup:


You're welcome Judge Burdis! ;-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 29 June, 2013, 12:42:19 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 28 June, 2013, 02:23:04 PM
https://www.facebook.com/questions/10151427822675755

WOW. Brilliant  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 29 June, 2013, 01:49:02 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 28 June, 2013, 07:09:15 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 June, 2013, 03:58:52 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 27 June, 2013, 07:17:39 AM
Ordered from here, which has the cheapest postage I've found so far.

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Movie_000000000043933/item_Dredd-First-Press-Limited-Steel-Book_5392868?ref=dp_sim_1

Cheers dweezil2, just paid for mine  :thumbsup:


You're welcome Judge Burdis! ;-)

Great find! Instabuy!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 29 June, 2013, 02:21:19 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 29 June, 2013, 12:42:19 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 28 June, 2013, 02:23:04 PM
https://www.facebook.com/questions/10151427822675755

WOW. Brilliant  :D

Over a thousand for Dredd now, versus 120 for The Hobbit.  Quite amazing. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 June, 2013, 02:29:57 AM
It can only be good news!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 29 June, 2013, 02:37:06 AM
That's something alright
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 29 June, 2013, 09:20:13 AM
Mary me I nearly chocked on my tea after clicking on that FB page! Funt thats alot of Dredd's. :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 29 June, 2013, 10:16:22 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 29 June, 2013, 02:21:19 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 29 June, 2013, 12:42:19 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 28 June, 2013, 02:23:04 PM
https://www.facebook.com/questions/10151427822675755

WOW. Brilliant  :D

Over a thousand for Dredd now, versus 120 for The Hobbit.  Quite amazing.

Where's the tally? Or are you just counting them up yourself?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 June, 2013, 10:36:08 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 29 June, 2013, 10:16:22 AM
Where's the tally? Or are you just counting them up yourself?

There's over a thousand 'Other' votes and the associated comments are pretty much 100% Dredd.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 29 June, 2013, 11:17:35 AM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 29 June, 2013, 09:20:13 AM
Mary me I nearly chocked on my tea after clicking on that FB page! Funt thats alot of Dredd's. :o

I've forwarded the link to DNA :thumbsup:  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 29 June, 2013, 02:05:12 PM
Currently having lunch in Peach Tree(s) in Shrewsbury. What a happy little geek I am :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 June, 2013, 02:09:35 PM
Are you at this table, again ;)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-abtYh52CpDo/UB8ravNaeJI/AAAAAAAACa8/S6o_5V__voo/s1600/_MG_9553.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 29 June, 2013, 02:21:35 PM
Just noticed the Coke. What a good street judge you are Burdis! :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 29 June, 2013, 02:25:15 PM
Different table, located in the newly-opened Burdis Suite ;-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 June, 2013, 05:16:07 PM
That's ace. Note Judge Burdis's halo.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 29 June, 2013, 05:53:20 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 29 June, 2013, 02:21:35 PM
Just noticed the Coke. What a good street judge you are Burdis! :lol:

Is it suger free though? Bet Rico's isnt.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 29 June, 2013, 06:05:31 PM
Quote from: Stan on 29 June, 2013, 05:16:07 PM
That's ace. Note Judge Burdis's halo.

And Rico's has slipped a bit...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 July, 2013, 10:49:21 PM


Back after 5 days in Cursed Earth (Glastonbury)...

So what do I miss?

Dredd 2 yet? Judge Burdis & Judge Pal got cameo in it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 02 July, 2013, 08:00:58 PM
Zenith pre-orders.

No Dredd film news.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 July, 2013, 08:11:14 PM
But there is Dredd cartoon news HERE! (http://stephenreid.wix.com/thedreddproject#)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 02 July, 2013, 08:34:36 PM
I'm hoping it's used as a Pink Panther style intro to the sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 02 July, 2013, 09:44:33 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 July, 2013, 08:11:14 PM
But there is Dredd cartoon news HERE! (http://stephenreid.wix.com/thedreddproject#)

This is a great idea.Well done to all involved.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 03 July, 2013, 09:52:44 AM
A dredd cartoon now that sounds cool.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 04 July, 2013, 07:12:12 PM
Dredd still number 1 on sales in tesco for the DVD.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 July, 2013, 10:32:22 AM


Been watch Dredd again, still awesome film!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 05 July, 2013, 01:20:58 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 05 July, 2013, 10:32:22 AM


Been watch Dredd again, still awesome film!


It really is the film that keeps on giving!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 06 July, 2013, 01:21:08 AM
Saw it tonight for the first time since last September - the features are actually quite good - lots of it although clearly just from the press kit.

My partner saw it for the first time, very taken with it - how grim and gritty it all is. Loved seeing it again - now that I have it next week I shall be doing a Dreddathon of the '95 one and thissun one after the other. Hurrah!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 06 July, 2013, 08:01:08 PM
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 06 July, 2013, 01:21:08 AMMy partner saw it for the first time, very taken with it - how grim and gritty it all is. Loved seeing it again - now that I have it next week I shall be doing a Dreddathon of the '95 one and thissun one after the other. Hurrah!
What herasy is this? Are you mad?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 July, 2013, 08:05:49 PM
You just knew it was going to happen  ;)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1017328_10201634794856022_1881603524_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Albion on 06 July, 2013, 08:09:39 PM
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 06 July, 2013, 01:21:08 AM
.........next week I shall be doing a Dreddathon of the '95 one and thissun one after the other. Hurrah!

And then Minty too?  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 06 July, 2013, 08:09:56 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 July, 2013, 08:05:49 PM
You just knew it was going to happen  ;)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1017328_10201634794856022_1881603524_n.jpg)


Awesome Mr Burdis!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 06 July, 2013, 09:31:25 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 July, 2013, 08:05:49 PM
You just knew it was going to happen  ;)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1017328_10201634794856022_1881603524_n.jpg)

WOW -Great Pic. Not seen this before (first time out of the cellar?)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 July, 2013, 09:38:53 PM
LFCC today at Earls Court Two and here is another one for you  ;)

Judge's Lemmy, Burdis, Court and Pal
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/269829_10201634843177230_1399181768_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 06 July, 2013, 10:51:58 PM
Ace pictures John!

(minor gripe... why do people feel the need to quote a post whole with a picture??? makes for a pointlessly busy thread...)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SIP on 06 July, 2013, 11:01:54 PM
Man, awesome picture.I'm jealous.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 July, 2013, 11:03:39 PM
I'm gonna have a cuddle with her tomorrow in my civvies ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 07 July, 2013, 12:43:06 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 July, 2013, 11:03:39 PM
I'm gonna have a cuddle with her tomorrow in my civvies ;)

Lucky devil. :D

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 07 July, 2013, 01:32:36 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 06 July, 2013, 10:51:58 PM
Ace pictures John!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1017328_10201634794856022_1881603524_n.jpg)

(minor gripe... why do people feel the need to quote a post whole with a picture??? makes for a pointlessly busy thread...)

FTFW
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 07 July, 2013, 01:42:46 PM
Lena is awesome.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 07 July, 2013, 01:46:18 PM
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 07 July, 2013, 01:32:36 PM
FTFW

Most definitely! Great photo's CF, and gang. But boy, thats a heck of a lot of facial hair on show for the Judges...
And Ma-Ma? Swoon!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 July, 2013, 02:45:48 PM

Oh that's brilliant! Good sport of Lena! Jealous of you, John!
What she likes?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2013, 02:50:28 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 07 July, 2013, 02:45:48 PM
What she likes?


Don't think it went that far.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 July, 2013, 02:55:28 PM


:lol:

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 07 July, 2013, 03:01:42 PM
The realisation of what she'd really meant kicked in, when he found himself falling from a great height...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 07 July, 2013, 03:15:08 PM
Mission accomplished! Cuddle Lena shot in the bag plus a few other surprises but I'll post those once at home.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 July, 2013, 03:22:21 PM


Lucky man!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 08 July, 2013, 04:11:38 AM
Have you ever seen a blue Slo-Mo inhaler?  You saw it here first folks!  ;)

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x32/scowling_monkey/LenayheadeyPal2greensaturationup_zps4911b02e.jpg) (http://s186.photobucket.com/user/scowling_monkey/media/LenayheadeyPal2greensaturationup_zps4911b02e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 08 July, 2013, 11:47:54 AM
Fantastic stuff Shaolin - she seems a really good sport.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dash Decent on 08 July, 2013, 12:44:03 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 July, 2013, 09:38:53 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/269829_10201634843177230_1399181768_n.jpg)[/color]

It looks like Judge Pal has the helmet with the anti-sunburn nose protection option.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 08 July, 2013, 01:09:46 PM
Damn straight!!!  Do you know how hot and sunny it was there?!?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2013, 03:51:43 PM
As promised and I think you'll all agree, that is a cuddle  ;)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/544385_10201641588505859_1151214114_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 08 July, 2013, 04:37:26 PM
Watched the film again today. Just can't get enough of it.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 July, 2013, 04:44:00 PM


Agree! Will watch Dredd tonight.

And how hot does Lena looks! You lucky man, John!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 08 July, 2013, 05:07:20 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2013, 03:51:43 PM
As promised and I think you'll all agree, that is a cuddle  ;)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/544385_10201641588505859_1151214114_n.jpg)

Quality!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 08 July, 2013, 05:12:56 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 08 July, 2013, 04:11:38 AM
Have you ever seen a blue Slo-Mo inhaler?  You saw it here first folks!  http://s186.photobucket.com/user/scowling_monkey/media/LenayheadeyPal2greensaturationup_zps4911b02e.jpg.html (http://s186.photobucket.com/user/scowling_monkey/media/LenayheadeyPal2greensaturationup_zps4911b02e.jpg.html)

Love the improvised prop. What are the odds of you being able to find an asthma inhaler at a science-fiction fan convention?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 08 July, 2013, 05:34:21 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 08 July, 2013, 05:12:56 PM
Love the improvised prop. What are the odds of you being able to find an asthma inhaler at a science-fiction fan convention?

It was mine!   :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 08 July, 2013, 07:42:52 PM
Seriously great pics. Jealous does not begin to describe my feelings.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 July, 2013, 06:56:23 PM


Dredd out on Sky Movies next Friday.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 09 July, 2013, 07:03:31 PM
All I need to do now is find Olivia and give her a big hug and I can retire happy  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 09 July, 2013, 07:48:50 PM
Unjudicial liaison! 20 years on Titan creep.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 09 July, 2013, 08:51:33 PM
I'm with Dan on this!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 11 July, 2013, 04:37:22 PM
The BBFC's annual report is available here (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/sites/default/files/attachments/BBFC%20Annual%20Report%202012.pdf)

Ol' stony face gets a small mention around the page 45 mark, but the full report makes for interesting reading.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Sideshow Bob on 11 July, 2013, 10:15:52 PM
Great photos CF....many thanks for posting...
What a 'babe' Lena Headley is !!!......and seems like a good sport...
Cheers..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 July, 2013, 03:01:01 PM

UK SALES CHART - FIRST HALF OF 2013 (http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/james-bond-epic-skyfall-dominates-biggest-selling-videos-of-2013-so-far-2334/)


(http://imageshack.us/a/img11/6759/mzp1.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 July, 2013, 03:39:24 PM
Awesome stuff. Good to see it beating Looper in disc sales if not box office, and The Fucking Sweeney is nowhere in sight!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Recrewt on 15 July, 2013, 05:16:33 PM
Indeed, good stuff.

Dredd seems to be maintaining reasonable DVD/Blu-Ray sales. Not sure if it has done enough to temp DNA into action yet but hopefully the trend will continue to the point they start considering it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 15 July, 2013, 07:43:31 PM
Oi! Movie mogels, . . . never look a gift horse in the mouth!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dodsy on 15 July, 2013, 08:34:24 PM
I know I sound like a stuck record but with Comic-Con this weekend I think if we are going to heard and sequel news anytime soon it'll be this weekend.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cookyman on 15 July, 2013, 08:51:38 PM
Those are damn good sales!  Fingers crossed for Comic-Con.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 July, 2013, 08:53:46 PM
Quote from: dodsy on 15 July, 2013, 08:34:24 PM
I know I sound like a stuck record but with Comic-Con this weekend I think if we are going to heard and sequel news anytime soon it'll be this weekend.


That may depend on the nature of the news and whether it's what you want to hear.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 July, 2013, 09:04:27 PM


Now I said it, there will be sequel announcement (not comic format sequel!), this weekend or next few weekends!



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 July, 2013, 09:54:18 PM
Watch the skies t-shirts.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 15 July, 2013, 10:49:42 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 15 July, 2013, 09:04:27 PM


Now I said it, there will be sequel announcement (not comic format sequel!), this weekend or next few weekends!


Go ahead sequel announcement! Make my day!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 July, 2013, 11:49:20 PM
I did notice the DVD in HMV for eight quid. Right below it was Dark Knight for around half that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 July, 2013, 11:53:07 PM
And Dark night is almost twice as long so they're really saying it's worth two quid by comparison.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 16 July, 2013, 07:37:06 PM
Fantastic news for Dredd and pretty impressive.

Remind me what the score with Kick Ass was, wasn't the sequel born out of strong DVD/BlueRay sales?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 July, 2013, 07:54:55 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 16 July, 2013, 07:37:06 PM
Remind me what the score with Kick Ass was, wasn't the sequel born out of strong DVD/BlueRay sales?


Backed with an ok box-office of $100 million.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 16 July, 2013, 09:22:18 PM
Good to see Dredd still doing well, want to here the official announcement of sequel this weekend soooo bad. Watched Dredd again last night for first time in 2 weeks and it still impresses me that a film can be so compelling after tens of viewings. Thanks for the info Joe keep it coming  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 16 July, 2013, 10:17:16 PM
WTF is everyone talking about?

Dredd sequel announcements?!

What have I missed?!?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 July, 2013, 10:22:56 PM
Nothing much new.

Unconfirmed 'DNA were looking at sales to see if it justified a sequel' story that did the rounds, and not much has been heard since.

Other people clinging on to the hope that something will be announced at San Diego.

Judge Burdis got a cuddle from Ma-ma at a London Con.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 16 July, 2013, 11:35:08 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 16 July, 2013, 10:22:56 PM
Nothing much new.

Unconfirmed 'DNA were looking at sales to see if it justified a sequel' story that did the rounds, and not much has been heard since.

Other people clinging on to the hope that something will be announced at San Diego.

Judge Burdis got a cuddle from Ma-ma at a London Con.

My poor heartses..nearly keeled over with Goatys post
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 July, 2013, 02:23:03 AM



'Dredd' Takes Steps Toward Sequel
Karl Urban indicates a follow-up is actively being sought (http://www.airlockalpha.com/node/9759/dredd-takes-steps-toward-sequel.html)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 July, 2013, 02:27:01 AM
Keep the faith all you loyal fans  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 July, 2013, 02:48:08 AM

From an interview (http://www.capsulecomputers.com.au/2013/06/supanova-qa-with-karl-urban/) last month:

Well actually, I had breakfast with [Alex] Garland not too long ago in the UK. There is a distinct possibility that we'll be able to venture down that road. [...] Bombard Lionsgate with emails!


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 20 July, 2013, 02:55:23 AM
Hm. No news then.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 July, 2013, 11:19:24 AM
We live in hope! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 20 July, 2013, 11:25:51 AM
you guys don't know how often I check this site from my phone just to get snippets of hope like this. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 20 July, 2013, 02:03:03 PM
Dunno if anybody's posted this already (after all, 700+ pages is a lot to trawl through), but here are some hard numbers:


Budget:= $45 million(source: Wikipedia)
US Domestic P&A:= $25 millionP&A = prints & advertising; paid by Lionsgate (source: LA Times)
Rest of World (RoW) P&A:= $42 millionEstimated, based on box office pro-rata
-----
US Box Office:= $13.4 million(source: Box Office Mojo)
US DVD sales:= $10.2 million640,000 @ $17/unit (320,000 in first week) (source: the-numbers.com)
US blu-ray sales:= $9.6 millionEst. 368,000 @ $28/unit (based on known 184,000 in first week, source: the-numbers.com)
RoW Box Office:= $22.2 million(source: Box Office Mojo)
RoW DVD sales:= $17 millionEstimated pro-rata
RoW blu-ray sales:= $16 millionEstimated pro-rata
-----
TOTAL EXPENDITURE:= $112 millionEstimated
TOTAL INCOME:= $88 millionEstimated

Forgetting the fact that retailers and price drops will be slicing into those DVD/blu-ray figures, it sadly looks like it's still a fair way off breaking even.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 20 July, 2013, 02:04:41 PM
Bugger!  I had that all lined up on the 'post reply' screen.  Darn you, lack-of-edit-function!  Darn you to heck!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 20 July, 2013, 02:20:52 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 20 July, 2013, 02:03:03 PM
Forgetting the fact that retailers and price drops will be slicing into those DVD/blu-ray figures, it sadly looks like it's still a fair way off breaking even.

>SOB!<

Seems to be a long shot still for a DREDD sequel. :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 July, 2013, 02:26:16 PM



Slight correction- International Box Office: $27,454,280

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Dredd

Where did you get these numbers? I have slightly different estimates that include rentals and TV rights.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 20 July, 2013, 03:10:32 PM
Lionsgate have certainly lost out (some would say deservedly so for such a poor marketing campaign) and some other distributors around the globe but how do these figures translate when it comes to those who actually financed the film in the first place?

If they are starting to see a return there may be more hope than thought ,after all there are other distributors.They may consider that the first film to have been poorly served by Lionsgate judging from the subsequent DVD/Blueray sales and take a favourable view on a sequel.

What is the actual maths behind the DVD/Blueray sales and who gets what?

Are the films financiers themselves close to making a profit now?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 July, 2013, 03:27:58 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 20 July, 2013, 03:10:32 PM
Lionsgate have certainly lost out (some would say deservedly so for such a poor marketing campaign) and some other distributors around the globe but how do these figures translate when it comes to those who actually financed the film in the first place?

That depends on who paid for and controlled the marketing. There is also the fact that $30 million in pre-sales alleviated the cost of [/url=http://www.deadline.com/2012/09/soft-friday-box-office-clint-eastwoods-trouble-with-the-curve-disappoints-but-end-of-watch-strong-even-if-house-1-rebooted-dredd-opens-just-dreadful/#more-341145]marketing[/url]:


Comic-Con fans seemed to accept this new gritty Dredd last summer, unlike the Sly Stallone version with lycra and codpieces. Reviews were good, and audiences gave the pic a 'B' CinemaScore. The bad news is that Deepak Nayer and Stuart Ford who put the picture together committed Reliance Entertainment to fund the $40M gap and backstop the P&A. The good news for Lionsgate is that it has minimal risk. LG's marketing campaign created a comic strip prequel to the film with the publisher 2000 AD as well as a Motion Comic released online. -Deadline

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 July, 2013, 03:29:08 PM
No edit function.


Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 20 July, 2013, 03:10:32 PM
Lionsgate have certainly lost out (some would say deservedly so for such a poor marketing campaign) and some other distributors around the globe but how do these figures translate when it comes to those who actually financed the film in the first place?

That depends on who paid for and controlled the marketing. There is also the fact that $30 million in pre-sales alleviated the cost of marketing (http://www.deadline.com/2012/09/soft-friday-box-office-clint-eastwoods-trouble-with-the-curve-disappoints-but-end-of-watch-strong-even-if-house-1-rebooted-dredd-opens-just-dreadful/#more-341145):


Comic-Con fans seemed to accept this new gritty Dredd last summer, unlike the Sly Stallone version with lycra and codpieces. Reviews were good, and audiences gave the pic a 'B' CinemaScore. The bad news is that Deepak Nayer and Stuart Ford who put the picture together committed Reliance Entertainment to fund the $40M gap and backstop the P&A. The good news for Lionsgate is that it has minimal risk. LG's marketing campaign created a comic strip prequel to the film with the publisher 2000 AD as well as a Motion Comic released online. -Deadline
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 20 July, 2013, 04:27:33 PM
All sounds interesting. The current state of the movie industry will dash any hopes of Dredd getting a well deserved sequel. I feel if Mr. Garland and Co. are pursuing options the TV one is the best. Look at Urbans new sci fi venture on the box for example.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 July, 2013, 06:36:53 PM


If it happens, I will promise to kiss Karl Urban somehow!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 July, 2013, 06:37:55 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 20 July, 2013, 06:36:53 PM
If it happens, I will promise to kiss Karl Urban somehow!


You'd do that anyway.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 July, 2013, 06:51:25 PM
"Eat recycled news - it's good for the environment and OK for you..."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 July, 2013, 06:58:20 PM



We are eco-concious.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 20 July, 2013, 10:08:13 PM
Just seen that Boondock Saints is to get another movie

That bombed in the cinema but had strong home figures

So there's always hope
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 July, 2013, 11:01:09 PM
Perhaps to further show fan support for Dredd and a potential sequel we could organise an online "pledge to buy Dredd Friday" or something along those lines? Pick an imminent forthcoming date and maybe someone on here could rustle up a suitably striking image to go along with it and we could share this to friends on Facebook, Twitter etc, where fans (and potential new fans) pledge to buy a Dredd DVD or Blu-ray to further the cause? What do others think?   :)

I'd buy another copy (or two).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dodsy on 20 July, 2013, 11:14:34 PM
Is all this buying two or three copies actually helping things though? If the big jump in sales is due to fans buying 2 or 3 copies each it doesn't really solve the problem at the box office does it? Then when/ if a sequel is made would we be back at square one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 July, 2013, 11:28:52 PM
Uh-huh.

From the maker's POV, sure it likely shifts more copies, as does re-heating old news, but it's still going to be a vocal minority like the ones at last year's SDCC preview who gave it positive buzz.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 July, 2013, 11:40:19 PM
(http://gallery.mailchimp.com/a6e40236aa24d482cfff600d2/images/SEQUEL.jpg)


http://2000adonline.us5.list-manage.com/subscribe/post


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 21 July, 2013, 03:38:58 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 July, 2013, 02:26:16 PM
Slight correction- International Box Office: $27,454,280
http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Dredd
Where did you get these numbers? I have slightly different estimates that include rentals and TV rights.

The sources are listed in my original table; my $22m international came from Box Office Mojo (full breakdown at http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=dredd.htm (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=dredd.htm)) which seemed to justify its figures more precisely than the-numbers.com
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 July, 2013, 03:48:43 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 21 July, 2013, 03:38:58 PM
The sources are listed in my original table; my $22m international came from Box Office Mojo (full breakdown at http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=dredd.htm (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=dredd.htm)) which seemed to justify its figures more precisely than the-numbers.com


I've found BoxOfficeMojo generally wrong - even the numbers on their foreign earnings list add up to more than the $22 million total they state at the top - and they stop updating after a certain window whereas the numbers are generally constant and correct.

I was wondering where you got your estimated pro rata blu-ray/DVD numbers from?



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 21 July, 2013, 07:13:36 PM
That petition link doesn't work by the way.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 21 July, 2013, 07:17:36 PM
Ack. Never mind. To the petition thread!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 July, 2013, 07:33:36 PM


If a sequel ever does emerge I hope it's held off till 2016. The slate for 2015 if all ready full (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/07/21/now-with-added-batman-superman-heres-a-crazy-list-of-2015s-tentpole-and-franchise-films/):


    Avengers: Age of Ultron
    Ant Man
    Star Wars Episode VII
    Jurassic Park IV
    WarCraft
    James Bond 24
    Pirates Of The Caribbean 5
    Terminator
    Independence Day 2
    Hunger Games: Mocking Jay Part 2
    Finding Dory
    Assassin's Creed
    Fantastic Four
    Inferno – the Da Vinci Code threequel
   
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 July, 2013, 07:34:52 PM


Add SuperBatMan to that list as well.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 22 July, 2013, 12:13:00 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 July, 2013, 03:48:43 PM
I've found BoxOfficeMojo generally wrong [...]

Cheers -- fair point.

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 July, 2013, 03:48:43 PM
I was wondering where you got your estimated pro rata blu-ray/DVD numbers from?

Based it on the ratio of US vs. International box office.  Hence the $27M figure would scale these as well, adding $12M worldwide and bringing the estimated total income to around $100M.  Still 10% short of break-even.

It's certainly a very rough calculation, based on a lot of presumptions, but explains a reticence to invest in a sequel.  After all, relatively few sequels make a bigger box office profit than the original (http://www.moviescopemag.com/features/the-economics-of-sequels/ (http://www.moviescopemag.com/features/the-economics-of-sequels/)), and much of the time there are other factors such as merchandising -- minimal in the case of Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 July, 2013, 12:39:50 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 22 July, 2013, 12:13:00 AM
Based it on the ratio of US vs. International box office.  Hence the $27M figure would scale these as well, adding $12M worldwide and bringing the estimated total income to around $100M.  Still 10% short of break-even.


That's the rudimentary formula I used as well and came up with a similar projection but the film did earn $30 million in pre-sales before release which may well have helped put the film into the black and I'm really not sure whether anything like $40 million was spent on global marketing. There's no figure given other than Lionsgate's standard $25 million (domestic P & A amount they give nearly all their output). There's also the question of whether DREDD was a negative pick-up (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_pickup_deal) or service-deal distribution (http://www.raindance.org/10-film-distribution-basics/).


Kevin Smith gives a great and simple lowdown on this marketing nightmare and why he decided to market and distribute RED STATE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uZtOF2zjmg&t=4m30s) himself.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 July, 2013, 01:28:40 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 20 July, 2013, 02:03:03 PM
Dunno if anybody's posted this already (after all, 700+ pages is a lot to trawl through), but here are some hard numbers:


Budget:= $45 million(source: Wikipedia)
US Domestic P&A:= $25 millionP&A = prints & advertising; paid by Lionsgate (source: LA Times)
Rest of World (RoW) P&A:= $42 millionEstimated, based on box office pro-rata
-----
US Box Office:= $13.4 million(source: Box Office Mojo)
US DVD sales:= $10.2 million640,000 @ $17/unit (320,000 in first week) (source: the-numbers.com)
US blu-ray sales:= $9.6 millionEst. 368,000 @ $28/unit (based on known 184,000 in first week, source: the-numbers.com)
RoW Box Office:= $22.2 million(source: Box Office Mojo)
RoW DVD sales:= $17 millionEstimated pro-rata
RoW blu-ray sales:= $16 millionEstimated pro-rata
-----
TOTAL EXPENDITURE:= $112 millionEstimated
TOTAL INCOME:= $88 millionEstimated

Forgetting the fact that retailers and price drops will be slicing into those DVD/blu-ray figures, it sadly looks like it's still a fair way off breaking even.

Yeah but that's only for the first week of sales right? It's been in the charts a few times since January so I think it's surely closer to breaking even then that by now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 July, 2013, 01:39:06 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 July, 2013, 01:28:40 AM
Yeah but that's only for the first week of sales right? It's been in the charts a few times since January so I think it's surely closer to breaking even then that by now.


A lot of them are a mix of acutal and estimated totals since January. I wouldn't say those figure are that wide of the mark.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 22 July, 2013, 02:43:34 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 22 July, 2013, 12:39:50 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 22 July, 2013, 12:13:00 AM
Based it on the ratio of US vs. International box office.  Hence the $27M figure would scale these as well, adding $12M worldwide and bringing the estimated total income to around $100M.  Still 10% short of break-even.


That's the rudimentary formula I used as well and came up with a similar projection but the film did earn $30 million in pre-sales before release which may well have helped put the film into the black and I'm really not sure whether anything like $40 million was spent on global marketing. There's no figure given other than Lionsgate's standard $25 million (domestic P & A amount they give nearly all their output). There's also the question of whether DREDD was a negative pick-up (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_pickup_deal) or service-deal distribution (http://www.raindance.org/10-film-distribution-basics/).


Kevin Smith gives a great and simple lowdown on this marketing nightmare and why he decided to market and distribute RED STATE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uZtOF2zjmg&t=4m30s) himself.
Are we sure that $25 Million is right?
I saw like 10 or fewer commercials for DREDD and they were all on SPIKE TV.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 July, 2013, 02:49:05 AM
Quote from: Mr 9.8 on 22 July, 2013, 02:43:34 AM
Are we sure that $25 Million is right?
I saw like 10 or fewer commercials for DREDD and they were all on SPIKE TV.

Domestic P&A:   $25 million (http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Dredd)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 July, 2013, 12:03:01 PM


Now it over the media sites, Den of Geek, Dark Horizons and Total Film.

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/karl-urban-talks-possibility-of-dredd-sequel (http://www.totalfilm.com/news/karl-urban-talks-possibility-of-dredd-sequel)
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/27863/karl-urban-says-dredd-2-still-possible (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/27863/karl-urban-says-dredd-2-still-possible)
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd/26520/karl-urban-on-dredd-and-continuing-dredd-sequel-hopes (http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd/26520/karl-urban-on-dredd-and-continuing-dredd-sequel-hopes)

But I dont like that Dark Horizons pick this poor photoshop photo...

(http://www.darkhorizons.com/assets/0018/7452/Mega-City-1-and-Judge-Dredd_article.jpg?1347711545)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 July, 2013, 12:43:53 PM
If that Make a Dredd sequel page want to actually retain their followers they need to tone it down a bit - their news feed is spamming up my wall to a ridiculous degree, to the point where I'm going to hide their posts.

Less is more.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 22 July, 2013, 01:05:39 PM
It's why I unliked it in the first place but Rebellion endorsement has made me brave a like again. Hand hovering over the 'hide' option though - !
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 22 July, 2013, 02:24:21 PM
I recently hid virtually all fan pages from my newsfeed anyway. You can always scan through your alternate page feed on the bottom left. It just got too annoying with the advent of sponsored garbage clogging up the page.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 22 July, 2013, 02:26:45 PM
What I meant was, every time I see a like page I don't particularly want in my feed every day I just hide it. I didn't go through my entire list and do them all in one go!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 July, 2013, 03:20:28 PM

Urban still awesome!

(http://i.imgur.com/r94X1en.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 23 July, 2013, 05:16:37 PM
it'd be cool to see how many people have signed the petition
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 23 July, 2013, 09:55:30 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 23 July, 2013, 03:20:28 PM

Urban still awesome!

(http://i.imgur.com/r94X1en.jpg?1)

Karl is such a top bloke.That's one cool dude with him (where did he get the outfit? Prop store only a few on ebay but seen a number turning up with them at conventions -home made?)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 July, 2013, 10:09:23 PM
Those will be home made. There are over 160 of us in a Facebook group that are waiting on our screen accurate complete leathers, body armour, pauldrons and neck brace at the moment. You will see these uniforms hit the convention scene in one massed turnout in November.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 23 July, 2013, 10:26:07 PM
Home made !! :o :o  **** me they have done a top class job!

Where will this be in November?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 July, 2013, 11:13:32 PM
Sadly not Thought Bubble. It's gonna be the same weekend but in Birmingham at the NEC for Memorabilia.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 July, 2013, 11:16:36 PM

Oh yeah, saw some people outside it when went to support friend got stall at Christmas Fair at NEC last year!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 23 July, 2013, 11:18:24 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 July, 2013, 10:09:23 PM
Those will be home made. There are over 160 of us in a Facebook group that are waiting on our screen accurate complete leathers, body armour, pauldrons and neck brace at the moment. You will see these uniforms hit the convention scene in one massed turnout in November.




Amazing dedication!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 24 July, 2013, 08:43:13 AM
You will see these uniforms hit the convention scene in one massed turnout in November.

That will be awesome to see, CF! Did the movie have that many in any shot? I can't remember - but anyway, yes, that will really be fantastic to see! I got all wobbly with glee when I saw ten stormtroopers at County Hall, so 160 Dredds??! Stratosphere levels of glee. Thanks to you and your legion!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 July, 2013, 08:47:18 AM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 24 July, 2013, 08:43:13 AM
You will see these uniforms hit the convention scene in one massed turnout in November.

That will be awesome to see, CF! Did the movie have that many in any shot? I can't remember - but anyway, yes, that will really be fantastic to see! I got all wobbly with glee when I saw ten stormtroopers at County Hall, so 160 Dredds??! Stratosphere levels of glee. Thanks to you and your legion!

You will find there will be 160 Judges, many will got "Dredd" and many their cool names.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 July, 2013, 08:49:10 AM
Over 100 of those are for across the pond (which is bloody good). I think around 40 are destined for our shores and between 25-40 are hoping to get to the NEC. Those will be the screen accurate lot, there will also be others there with excellent versions as well (as a lot of people missed the leather run as the first run had a deadline) and also I'm sure there will be a few Planet Replica Judges on patrol as well, I'm taking both mine up!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 July, 2013, 08:53:36 AM
I think you'll find that most of the Brits don't actually want to wear the Dredd badge at the cons. Obviously there are a few but most like to wear their own name or character. Believe me, you actually have more fun and can get away with a bit more.

I think it would look a wee bit daft with a load of Judges wearing his name in the same location. It would be like having a load of Darth Vaders in the same place.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 July, 2013, 09:23:41 AM
Just came up on the groups Facebook page. Another run of 100 sets of leathers has been opened.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 24 July, 2013, 11:58:53 AM
Do you have a snappy name for your group? The Star Wars fellas have the 501st.

Burdis's Badass Battalion -too much? ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 24 July, 2013, 04:55:01 PM
I thought it was the Brit Cit thing?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 July, 2013, 04:57:02 PM

How about some block? Which you with?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 July, 2013, 05:02:54 PM
Yeah, it's not my doing. The initial leathers run came from an American called Kurt and he opened a group called The Judge Dredd costume group for Dragon Con 2013. Many Brits joined this to get on the leather run and yours truly was the first to pay up instantly!

Then we have the British groups which are the following BRIT-CIT JUSTICE DEPARTMET (http://brit-cit.proboards.com/) which is a forum.

Then you have the facebook groups - The Official Brit-Cit Justice Department and also Brit-Cit Judges. There are a few more popping up now as well.

There is also the twitter feed from Britcitjustice1
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 July, 2013, 05:11:27 PM
Blocks you say Goaty. How about these then  ;)

(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af293/judgedredd67/944525_1393425140874307_1262757722_n_zpscde22071.jpg) (http://s1017.photobucket.com/user/judgedredd67/media/944525_1393425140874307_1262757722_n_zpscde22071.jpg.html)

And some perp ::)
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af293/judgedredd67/Perp_zpsc6426e42.jpg) (http://s1017.photobucket.com/user/judgedredd67/media/Perp_zpsc6426e42.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 July, 2013, 05:16:17 PM

Haha! Awesome!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 25 July, 2013, 11:04:08 PM
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x32/scowling_monkey/8675ff4aba13f1b9b2e5fa189786ece2_zpsbb0e579e.jpg)

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x32/scowling_monkey/cf1e6aa81c848b78775766fed4444785_zpsc6aeccb3.jpg)



;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DeFuzzed on 26 July, 2013, 07:00:03 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 24 July, 2013, 08:47:18 AM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 24 July, 2013, 08:43:13 AM
You will see these uniforms hit the convention scene in one massed turnout in November.

That will be awesome to see, CF! Did the movie have that many in any shot? I can't remember - but anyway, yes, that will really be fantastic to see! I got all wobbly with glee when I saw ten stormtroopers at County Hall, so 160 Dredds??! Stratosphere levels of glee. Thanks to you and your legion!

You will find there will be 160 Judges, many will got "Dredd" and many their cool names.

I meant Judges, I just said Dredds because well, Dredd! But yeah, if I got the uniform, I would have my name on the badge too - but I'd still consider myself being a Dredd.... it makes sense to me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 26 July, 2013, 11:32:32 AM
Age 79 Shaolin?

You must work out  ;) :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 26 July, 2013, 12:07:30 PM
See notes of offence: 'Stookie gland dealer/user'. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 26 July, 2013, 03:58:59 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 26 July, 2013, 12:07:30 PM
See notes of offence: 'Stookie gland dealer/user'. ;)

Aaaaahh. Great site, never come across it before.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dodsy on 30 July, 2013, 12:44:57 PM
Newsarama listed Karl as #8 in there Top 10 choices for the new Batman and gave Dredd a mention in the write-up reason.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 August, 2013, 02:36:37 PM

Hard to believe it was 1 year and one month till this trailer debut on 22 June 2012...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbCfqGsXu3M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbCfqGsXu3M)

This film is one of awesome films, as one of repeatable re-watched films!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 01 August, 2013, 03:34:11 PM
Did any one spot the entrance location of Dredds first bust ( 1:14 in the link above, with the fattie on the floor) was also used in the last episode of Luther:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b037lc89/Luther_Series_3_Episode_4/
at 33:40 secs.

Looks like the droid cleaner did a good job ;-)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 August, 2013, 03:40:23 PM


Oriental City Shopping Centre on Edgeware Rd.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 August, 2013, 07:53:45 PM

Sauchie post those in other forum...

Karl Urban - inside the actor's studio

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/bc08f34c247f9375381c142d19c78f3a/tumblr_mnktqx8T9y1rwbm11o1_250.gif)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/856c34a7f2f3de20f7ee8ba7e1f61d90/tumblr_mnktqx8T9y1rwbm11o2_250.gif)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/5ad0bcf252494bd82a02bf1e4bb3de4a/tumblr_mnktqx8T9y1rwbm11o3_250.gif)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/abb1f5798bbc3c3b9aa421b3591fbd3b/tumblr_mnktqx8T9y1rwbm11o4_250.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 03 August, 2013, 09:15:48 PM
So whats happening with the sequel campain any more news/progress with the powers that be green lighting it. I aint going to live forever you know.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2013, 09:23:01 PM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 03 August, 2013, 09:15:48 PM
So whats happening with the sequel campain any more news/progress with the powers that be green lighting it. I aint going to live forever you know.  :lol:



https://www.facebook.com/MakeADreddSequel
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 03 August, 2013, 09:32:11 PM
Yeah been  following and sharing that Joe just wondered if any officials had let slip any info.  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2013, 10:06:50 PM


I think if anything happens you won't need to ask.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 04 August, 2013, 11:27:35 AM
Can't help thinking that the 'There's going to be an official decision very soon!!!' post on the Dredd Sequel Facebook page a few weeks back was just a complete fabrication though. :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 August, 2013, 11:39:17 AM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 04 August, 2013, 11:27:35 AM
Can't help thinking that the 'There's going to be an official decision very soon!!!' post on the Dredd Sequel Facebook page a few weeks back was just a complete fabrication though. :(

I think you might have mis-read that post. Wasn't it more like: somebody had heard something to the effect that there was going to be a meeting due to the high demand on home video? I certainly don't think anyone suggested that there was going to be a yes/no decision any time in the foreseeable future.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 04 August, 2013, 12:16:01 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 04 August, 2013, 11:27:35 AM
Can't help thinking that the 'There's going to be an official decision very soon!!!' post on the Dredd Sequel Facebook page a few weeks back was just a complete fabrication though. :(

Even if that post was true, and I've no idea whether it was or not, DNA have the rights for another 4 years or so.

Just because something doesn't happen within a month or so, doesn't mean much one way or the other.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 04 August, 2013, 12:47:51 PM
Just been into morrisons and noticed Dredd at number 3 in the dvd charts  :). Nice to see it still doing well in dvd/blu ray sales. I am sure a sequel will be a more lucrative proposition for all involved as the dvd sales prove it has found its audience and been accepted for what it is , a Bloody good movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 August, 2013, 02:36:57 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 04 August, 2013, 11:27:35 AM
Can't help thinking that the 'There's going to be an official decision very soon!!!' post on the Dredd Sequel Facebook page a few weeks back was just a complete fabrication though. :(


I think if it was a complete fabrication, at the fan-end of the equation, it's less likely 2000AD & Rebellion would've gotten involved. All indicators suggest it was true but there was never a guarantee DNA would tell us their decision. They certainly won't be saying it's not going to happen until the license has expired.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 August, 2013, 11:55:13 AM

Anyone want vote Dredd for Top 5 Superhero movies of all times. Dredd was just add as many people vote on other.  :D

http://www.sfx.co.uk/2013/08/05/vote-your-top-5-superhero-movies-of-all-time-2013-edition/ (http://www.sfx.co.uk/2013/08/05/vote-your-top-5-superhero-movies-of-all-time-2013-edition/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 August, 2013, 04:12:59 PM

Awesome, Make A Dredd Sequel post this;

(http://i.imgur.com/2LLnY60.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 August, 2013, 09:43:11 PM


Nice to see that Sky Movies Superheroes advert got Dredd in it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 05 August, 2013, 11:57:22 PM
But Dredd isn't a Superhero...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 06 August, 2013, 07:27:45 AM
Nor is Batman. Try and get the man on the street to understand that though :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 06 August, 2013, 07:47:10 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 06 August, 2013, 07:27:45 AM
Nor is Batman.

Yes, he is.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 06 August, 2013, 10:14:05 AM
What's his super power?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 06 August, 2013, 10:26:02 AM
Superhero doesn't mean Superhuman.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 06 August, 2013, 10:29:34 AM
So Dredd is as much a super hero as Batman then ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 06 August, 2013, 10:44:25 AM
I see what you're getting at but I'm not biting. No, Dredd's a cop, and often an antihero, even a villain, depending on the story.

I'd argue that Batman's intellect, technology wealth and physical abilities all but give him superpowers. Just because he doesn't have supernatural powers doesn't mean he's not a superhero.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 06 August, 2013, 10:46:31 AM
Also, Dredd has no secret identity, wears a uniform rather than a costume, doesn't have a sidekick, and works for The Man. He also kills millions of people.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 06 August, 2013, 10:52:22 AM
Not trying to start an argument :) Just curious as I've always assumed a 'super' hero required super powers else he's just a hero
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JamesC on 06 August, 2013, 10:57:49 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 06 August, 2013, 10:52:22 AM
Not trying to start an argument :) Just curious as I've always assumed a 'super' hero required super powers else he's just a hero

By that logic Green Lantern isn't a superhero either - just a man with advanced technology (see also: Starman).
To me a superhero is defined by the tropes of the story. I'd argue that certain Batman stories aren't superhero stories but detective stories. In all media other than comics though, Batman is clearly a superhero. Even in the DCU his superhero type stories are far more numerous than the detective stories and his inclusion in the JLA seals the deal.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 06 August, 2013, 11:06:18 AM
Quote from: radiator on 06 August, 2013, 10:44:25 AM
I see what you're getting at but I'm not biting. No, Dredd's a cop, and often an antihero, even a villain, depending on the story.

I was going to point out more often than not I'm on the side of the "criminal" where Dredd is concerned. He's certainly not a likeable character nevermind even coming close to be being a hero for anybody.

Dredd often doesn't even care about the common man and would (and has) arrested people for the smallest things, Batman would overlook a poor juvie stealing some food for their family (instead he would see the big picture) where as Dredd would lock him up, no grey area, not heroic by any terms of the definition. Nevermind Dredd going after people that dare to scavenge the property of the 350 million dead citizens after Chaos Day. When we're down to so little Judges to deal with actual crime and citizens themselves having a hard time to keep alive that's scavenging of resources, not stealing.

Dredd is un-heroic as can be IMO.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mididoctors on 06 August, 2013, 11:22:14 AM
I would give him sooperhero status but in a anti-superhero mode. He has the superpower to prevail and remain on track with his beliefs. His most powerful super ability is his faith in his own judgement which of course he loses for a while and has to renew.

the loss of superpower and the internal search for its source is a fairly established superhero troupe to be honest.

The part of his character that is novel is "is he really a hero?"... and its ambivalent. Close to sheldipez I guess.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NapalmKev on 06 August, 2013, 12:29:29 PM
I would say that Dredd has had at least a couple of 'Heroic' moments. SPOILER - in the story about the little girl who ended up as a dysfunctional brain in a robot body (Robot Bonieee) he authorizes payment to get her sorted out, and then promptly knocks out the finance judge who questioned the use of funds.

And from the Megazine, two mutant children he saved after receiving a message pod from them (i don't remember the title of the tale, but it involved a mutant on a farm who had helped Dredd previously), hewent out of his way to make sure the children were alright.

judge Dwedd, my hewo!

cheers

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mididoctors on 06 August, 2013, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: NapalmKev on 06 August, 2013, 12:29:29 PM
I would say that Dredd has had at least a couple of 'Heroic' moments. SPOILER - in the story about the little girl who ended up as a dysfunctional brain in a robot body (Robot Bonieee) he authorizes payment to get her sorted out, and then promptly knocks out the finance judge who questioned the use of funds.

And from the Megazine, two mutant children he saved after receiving a message pod from them (i don't remember the title of the tale, but it involved a mutant on a farm who had helped Dredd previously), hewent out of his way to make sure the children were alright.

judge Dwedd, my hewo!

cheers

true enough but the day he decided to do something nice it turned out a disaster... not to say he wasn't being nice but I guess he can't do that well :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Recrewt on 06 August, 2013, 02:41:38 PM
I think that most definitions of superheroes are along the lines of 'a fictional hero who has extraordinary or superhuman powers' so by that strict definition Batman, Green Lantern, Iron Man and Dredd are not superheroes. 

I think the term really took off with Superman and has since been associated with those characters who had special powers.  This is also why terms like 'masked crusader' and 'world's greatest detective' came about for the likes of Batman as they recognised at the time that he had no special powers.  Time has moved on though and you could argue that Batman has become more super as time goes on - strength, prowess and a general disregard for the law of gravity mean that he has become far more than a man with a few gadgets. 

Dredd is definitely an anti-hero - his cause may be heroic (assuming you see the law that way) but he uses brutal and violent methods for this i.e. non-heroic.  This does make me wonder though - whether an anti-hero with superhuman powers is also a superhero e.g. Wolverine?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 06 August, 2013, 06:46:44 PM
Quote from: mididoctors on 06 August, 2013, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: NapalmKev on 06 August, 2013, 12:29:29 PM
I would say that Dredd has had at least a couple of 'Heroic' moments. SPOILER - in the story about the little girl who ended up as a dysfunctional brain in a robot body (Robot Bonieee) he authorizes payment to get her sorted out, and then promptly knocks out the finance judge who questioned the use of funds.

Judge Winslow. Previously we'd seen Winslow booted off the Judge Child mission on Justice 1...he clearly didn't like him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 August, 2013, 08:33:26 PM



If Judge Dredd is considered a superhero then every other Judge should be too.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JamesC on 06 August, 2013, 08:54:22 PM
Mr Urban talks sequel:

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/08/06/karl-urban-on-what-hed-like-in-a-dredd-sequel

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 August, 2013, 08:57:40 PM
Quote from: JamesC on 06 August, 2013, 08:54:22 PM
Mr Urban talks sequel:

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/08/06/karl-urban-on-what-hed-like-in-a-dredd-sequel

Aww he like Judge Dredd: Origins. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JamesC on 06 August, 2013, 09:00:26 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 August, 2013, 08:57:40 PM
Quote from: JamesC on 06 August, 2013, 08:54:22 PM
Mr Urban talks sequel:

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/08/06/karl-urban-on-what-hed-like-in-a-dredd-sequel

Aww he like Judge Dredd: Origins. :)

Certainly sound like he's all about the story and the world-building. Top man.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 06 August, 2013, 09:04:18 PM
He talks the talk. We already know he can walk the walk.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 August, 2013, 09:08:56 PM


I went to buy a bottle of wine the other day and the guy behind the counter said, 'Are you Judge Dredd? First of all, how did he recognize me? Secondly, just the fact that he's a guy at the bottle store saying 'I want to see more of that!'


Poor Karl, hitting the bottle in despair.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 06 August, 2013, 09:10:30 PM
He's a Kiwi...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 August, 2013, 09:15:18 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 06 August, 2013, 09:10:30 PM
He's a Kiwi...


Dredd is no fruit.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 August, 2013, 09:16:25 PM
Love this post on that link;

This man would turn down Star Wars for a Judd Dredd sequel. Nothing you can do but respect that
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 06 August, 2013, 09:52:20 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 August, 2013, 09:15:18 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 06 August, 2013, 09:10:30 PM
He's a Kiwi...


Dredd is no fruit.
I'm sure he's a bit loopy though...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 06 August, 2013, 10:03:39 PM
Looking forward to seeing the short. I wonder if Karl stars in it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 August, 2013, 10:40:06 PM
That's not new news, it was said last year what and if there were sequels, what they would be.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 August, 2013, 10:55:06 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 August, 2013, 10:40:06 PM
That's not new news, it was said last year what and if there were sequels, what they would be.


Only the video at the bottom of the page is from last year; the text is from a recent IGN interview about Almost Human:


IGN: If there were to be a sequel, where would you like to see that character go?

Urban: Look there's many places that I'd like to see that character go. You know, I personally would like to see almost an origin story. To see how that world got the way it got. In Almost Human, there's still an optimism and a hope. We're still striving to be the best of what humanity can be. In the world of Dredd, humanity has given up. There's a dystopian vision of the future. I'd really like to see how it got that way, how the Judges came to be. To me that's interesting. There's a story, a great comic, it's Origins, and that would be the great basis for a movie. Fans are screaming out for a Dark Judges movie. That would be a great one, but you know that's a movie that's going to take a budget. If you want to do that, you want to do it right. It's much easier to go out into the desert and try and search for the origins of the Judges than to introduce Judge Death. Though again, that would be phenomenal. But you know, at the end of the day, we made Dredd as a stand-alone film and I couldn't be more proud of it. I am thrilled by the fact that it's found an audience that appreciates it. Every single day I get people asking me, 'When's there going to be a Dredd sequel?' I went to buy a bottle of wine the other day and the guy behind the counter said, 'Are you Judge Dredd? First of all, how did he recognize me? Secondly, just the fact that he's a guy at the bottle store saying 'I want to see more of that!' That's cool by me.
(http://ie.ign.com/articles/2013/08/06/karl-urban-on-what-hed-like-in-a-dredd-sequel)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 August, 2013, 11:03:27 PM
Alex said that those would be the way the sequels would pan out. Second, Origins - Cursed Earth and third Death.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 August, 2013, 11:13:02 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 August, 2013, 11:03:27 PM
Alex said that those would be the way the sequels would pan out. Second, Origins - Cursed Earth and third Death.



Yep, but not in this current context of budget and sequel talk. It's news when Karl is asked about these things now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DrJomster on 07 August, 2013, 08:06:47 PM
But Minty showed you can bring the awesome in the Cursed Earth with a very low budget. And then according to the (not very original round these parts) master plan it'd do really well and the Dark Judges third film would be green lit with a ginormous budget! Yep.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 August, 2013, 12:35:45 AM
I couldn't really fathom why Book of Eli cost $80m, and the Road a quarter of that.

Maybe Denzel and Gary Oldman bumped the cost up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 08 August, 2013, 01:10:34 AM
Dredd/Minty Cross over as a sequel!

A dimension sucking vortex pops Dredd (Karl Urban [Star Trek]) into an alternate Cursed Earth outside an alternate Mega City One. He teams up with Minty (Edmund Dehn [Knightmare {which trumps Star Trek!!!}]) and battles it out against Mutants, Robot Soldiers, Dinosaurs and compare notes on each other's Judge Anderson.

Sorted!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 08 August, 2013, 08:02:15 AM
Quote from: Bat King on 08 August, 2013, 01:10:34 AM
Dredd/Minty Cross over as a sequel!

A dimension sucking vortex pops Dredd (Karl Urban [Star Trek]) into an alternate Cursed Earth outside an alternate Mega City One. He teams up with Minty (Edmund Dehn [Knightmare {which trumps Star Trek!!!}]) and battles it out against Mutants, Robot Soldiers, Dinosaurs and compare notes on each other's Judge Anderson.

Sorted!

Well, IDW do Start Trek comics, too, so y'never know...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 August, 2013, 08:14:17 AM
That would be pretty weird, Urban Dredd meeting Urban Bones.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 10 August, 2013, 12:27:51 AM
Would DNA's license also cover something like a TV series? Not that I'm a particular fan of that option.

And I'd tend to put Dredd in the 'comicbook hero' category. Plus Marvel can't sue me that way.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2013, 12:41:20 AM
Quote from: Stan on 10 August, 2013, 12:27:51 AM
Would DNA's license also cover something like a TV series?


I believe so as it extends to all audio/visual rights.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 August, 2013, 01:35:32 PM
Aaah, thanks. That did seem like a silly question.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 August, 2013, 10:10:20 PM

Back after four days of wildest Sea, Sand, Sun and Sail at Isle of Wight, so any Dredd sequel news yet?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 11 August, 2013, 10:18:54 PM
You've been cast as the new Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 August, 2013, 08:39:50 AM

Well got chin for it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 August, 2013, 11:14:26 AM
Not sure where they've got the figures from, or if they're accurate, but Starbust are reporting home video sales in excess of $75m.

http://www.starburstmagazine.com/movie-news/6043-movie-news-dredd-2 (http://www.starburstmagazine.com/movie-news/6043-movie-news-dredd-2)

Again, this is just what they are saying, don't assume anything from it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 12 August, 2013, 11:18:40 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 August, 2013, 11:14:26 AM
Not sure where they've got the figures from, or if they're accurate, but Starbust are reporting home video sales in excess of $75m.

http://www.starburstmagazine.com/movie-news/6043-movie-news-dredd-2 (http://www.starburstmagazine.com/movie-news/6043-movie-news-dredd-2)

Again, this is just what they are saying, don't assume anything from it.

I assume there's a decimal point missing there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 August, 2013, 11:46:41 AM
Um, no.

$75 million.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 12 August, 2013, 11:54:26 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 August, 2013, 11:46:41 AM
Um, no.

$75 million.

If Dredd has made $75 million in dvd/blu ray sales alone then a sequel would of been greenlit by now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 August, 2013, 12:07:54 PM
Well, just reporting what they're saying - maybe they mean worldwide box-office + DVD/Home video sales.

7.5 million is less than already reported numbers of HV sales.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 August, 2013, 01:31:37 PM
Yeah, if it had made that much wouldn't a sequel be almost definitely on the cards?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 12 August, 2013, 02:11:18 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 August, 2013, 01:31:37 PM
Yeah, if it had made that much wouldn't a sequel be almost definitely on the cards?
Unless it is already and they are hanging on all the free publicity and column inches whilst it lasts.
James (the ever hopeful)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 12 August, 2013, 03:49:04 PM
75 Mill' does sound like box office + DVD/BluRay revenue, there's no way in Gruds name that's just home entertainment sales.

Good news if it's true! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 August, 2013, 05:03:46 PM
While we wait for Dredd I'm popping down the local picture house to watch this ;)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BRes8xlCAAAHa0F.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 August, 2013, 05:06:14 PM
Karl and Olivia chat sequel stuff while on set!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BResewKCIAA_ISB.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 August, 2013, 05:08:06 PM
Quote from: sheldipez on 12 August, 2013, 11:18:40 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 August, 2013, 11:14:26 AM
Not sure where they've got the figures from, or if they're accurate, but Starbust are reporting home video sales in excess of $75m.

http://www.starburstmagazine.com/movie-news/6043-movie-news-dredd-2 (http://www.starburstmagazine.com/movie-news/6043-movie-news-dredd-2)

Again, this is just what they are saying, don't assume anything from it.

I assume there's a decimal point missing there.

Well it's made over $20 million in bluray/DVD sales in the US alone.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 August, 2013, 05:12:24 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 August, 2013, 05:06:14 PM
Karl and Olivia chat sequel stuff while on set!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BResewKCIAA_ISB.jpg:large)

Great pic! Nice to see Karl and Olivia out of their characters (love Olivia's looks), I can guess that is Alex Garland's back...?

But can't remember that set in film, like that evil clown graffiti, but interesting part is that posters, Mega City Won!, won what?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 August, 2013, 05:14:35 PM
SCRATCH CARDS
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 August, 2013, 05:17:33 PM

AHHH!! Oh of course!

Thanks John.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 August, 2013, 05:20:20 PM

Will watch Dredd again tonight! Still awesome film!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 August, 2013, 05:21:32 PM
Quote from: sheldipez on 12 August, 2013, 11:54:26 AM
If Dredd has made $75 million in dvd/blu ray sales alone then a sequel would of been greenlit by now.

Not necessarily. It took 2 years to greenlight Kick-Ass 2 and that made $100 million at the box-office.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 August, 2013, 05:53:36 PM
I think they would have to make sure that the schedules were clear of all the people that they would need, before an announcement could take place.
Everyone would have projects lined up or did they keep some space clear just in case (I added that last bit to push Goaty over the edge)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 August, 2013, 06:06:08 PM
What do you mean 'over'?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Recrewt on 12 August, 2013, 06:08:18 PM
Without sounding pessimistic, I thought Dredd cost in the region of $115 million including publicity and advertising worldwide.  I thought the box office raked in about $35 million so with this updated view of DVD/Blu-Ray sales of $75 million, this still only totals $110 million?

I would love there to be a sequel but unless I have somehow got the figures wrong (very possible, I admit) then this hardly makes the sequel a done deal? 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 August, 2013, 06:08:53 PM
QuoteEveryone would have projects lined up or did they keep some space clear just in case  


Not for a while yet.

Alex Garland's Ex Machina begins shoot (http://www.screendaily.com/news/alex-garlands-ex-machina-begins-shoot/5059081.article)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 August, 2013, 06:12:38 PM
Quote from: Recrewt on 12 August, 2013, 06:08:18 PM
Without sounding pessimistic, I thought Dredd cost in the region of $115 million including publicity and advertising worldwide.  I thought the box office raked in about $35 million so with this updated view of DVD/Blu-Ray sales of $75 million, this still only totals $110 million?

I would love there to be a sequel but unless I have somehow got the figures wrong (very possible, I admit) then this hardly makes the sequel a done deal?

Box-office total is $41 million (http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Dredd). Total budget including advertising is estimated at $72 milion accoridng to box-office.com (http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/dredd-2012?q=dredd)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Recrewt on 12 August, 2013, 06:24:20 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 August, 2013, 06:12:38 PM
Quote from: Recrewt on 12 August, 2013, 06:08:18 PM
Without sounding pessimistic, I thought Dredd cost in the region of $115 million including publicity and advertising worldwide.  I thought the box office raked in about $35 million so with this updated view of DVD/Blu-Ray sales of $75 million, this still only totals $110 million?

I would love there to be a sequel but unless I have somehow got the figures wrong (very possible, I admit) then this hardly makes the sequel a done deal?

Box-office total is $41 million (http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Dredd). Total budget including advertising is estimated at $72 milion accoridng to box-office.com (http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/dredd-2012?q=dredd)

Ahhh there you go then.  So with these new DVD/Blu-Ray sales figures they are looking at a box office $41 million plus DVD/Blu-Ray Sales $75 million = $116 million.  So, against the budget of $72 million this leaves $44 million.  Of course, that's assuming they get all the money from the DVD sales - presumably this is before costs?

So in the end, I'm more confused now than when I started trying to work this out! 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 August, 2013, 06:45:06 PM

I don't know where Starburst got $75 million from but I'd say between the US & UK Dredd has made $35-$40 million in sales. After that, the biggest market is Spain. TV rights/rentals and Electronic Sell Through would add to that.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 13 August, 2013, 08:49:27 AM
Bah, in the last week it's been announced that 'Now you see me' is getting a sequel the Paranormal series is getting TWO. It's not fair  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 13 August, 2013, 09:09:27 AM
When it is too late the world will realise...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 13 August, 2013, 09:35:04 AM
Have faith everyone think we will get an announcement before year is out. All the signs are more positive than they were at the start of the year and look at all the campains and petitions that have been started just out of love for the film. As Joe stated those other films took time to green light and they did better than Dredd at box office. Everyone I know who has seen Dredd now wants a sequel and has signed the petition, so fingers crossed a bit of people power might work. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 13 August, 2013, 10:18:58 AM
If those figures are close its looking more and more positive. Anyone know what Serenity did on Blue Ray/DVD by comparison?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 August, 2013, 03:49:49 PM
Obviously he's a spectacular bullshit artist, so take this with a Herculean-sized grain of salt, but according to Mark Millar, Kick-Ass made $140m+ on home video sales alone, so make of that what you will.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Something Fishy on 13 August, 2013, 03:55:48 PM
It is good to know it made money in the end.

It deserved to.

I will be campaigning for a day 1 2d version of any sequel.  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 August, 2013, 04:03:51 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned here.

http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/how-dredd-producer-adi-shankars-bootleg-marvel-movies-are-building-brand-fanboys-are-flockin (http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/how-dredd-producer-adi-shankars-bootleg-marvel-movies-are-building-brand-fanboys-are-flockin)


A little more on the Adi Shankar short.

The third entry in what Shankar has dubbed his "bootleg universe" will be a short film revolving around Judge Dredd. But don't expect it to pretend to be any sort of sequel. Much like "Truth in Journalism" had a very distinctive style seperating it from "Dirty Laundry," Shankar teased a big surprise in store for fans of "Dredd" when the short debuts online some time next year.

"There is straight up no plan. I'm doing these in between projects," Shankar said. "I would love to just literally make these and only these at this point, because they're so much fun, but then rent won't get paid."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 August, 2013, 04:07:36 PM
QuoteObviously he's a spectacular bullshit artist, so take this with a Herculean-sized grain of salt, but according to Mark Millar, Kick-Ass made $140m+ on home video sales alone, so make of that what you will.

Should say, in the same interview he claimed that the first Kick-Ass was made for 'peanuts' ($35m is most definitely not 'peanuts' for an independent film), and that a sequel was guaranteed on the opening weekend (the original was widely regarded as a flop when it opened so this seems somewhat unlikely).

So yeah, grain of salt.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 13 August, 2013, 04:10:52 PM
That's interesting, reference Adi Shankar :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Proudhuff on 13 August, 2013, 04:51:16 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 August, 2013, 06:12:38 PM
Quote from: Recrewt on 12 August, 2013, 06:08:18 PM
Without sounding pessimistic, I thought Dredd cost in the region of $115 million including publicity and advertising worldwide.  I thought the box office raked in about $35 million so with this updated view of DVD/Blu-Ray sales of $75 million, this still only totals $110 million?

I would love there to be a sequel but unless I have somehow got the figures wrong (very possible, I admit) then this hardly makes the sequel a done deal?

Box-office total is $41 million (http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Dredd). Total budget including advertising is estimated at $72 milion accoridng to box-office.com (http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/dredd-2012?q=dredd)

I just added my fiver at Sainsburys  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 13 August, 2013, 06:20:03 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 August, 2013, 04:03:51 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned here.

http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/how-dredd-producer-adi-shankars-bootleg-marvel-movies-are-building-brand-fanboys-are-flockin (http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/how-dredd-producer-adi-shankars-bootleg-marvel-movies-are-building-brand-fanboys-are-flockin)


A little more on the Adi Shankar short.

The third entry in what Shankar has dubbed his "bootleg universe" will be a short film revolving around Judge Dredd. But don't expect it to pretend to be any sort of sequel. Much like "Truth in Journalism" had a very distinctive style seperating it from "Dirty Laundry," Shankar teased a big surprise in store for fans of "Dredd" when the short debuts online some time next year.

"There is straight up no plan. I'm doing these in between projects," Shankar said. "I would love to just literally make these and only these at this point, because they're so much fun, but then rent won't get paid."

Well, I hope we'll feel very shirty and insulted when he doesn't turn up and show what he's doing regularly...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 August, 2013, 06:25:37 PM

[/quote]

Well, I hope we'll feel very shirty and insulted when he doesn't turn up and show what he's doing regularly...
[/quote]

:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 13 August, 2013, 06:27:58 PM
I for one am already preparing choice comments about proportions of helmets and wheels.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mabs on 13 August, 2013, 09:04:42 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 July, 2013, 05:11:27 PM
Blocks you say Goaty. How about these then  ;)

(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af293/judgedredd67/944525_1393425140874307_1262757722_n_zpscde22071.jpg) (http://s1017.photobucket.com/user/judgedredd67/media/944525_1393425140874307_1262757722_n_zpscde22071.jpg.html)

And some perp ::)
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af293/judgedredd67/Perp_zpsc6426e42.jpg) (http://s1017.photobucket.com/user/judgedredd67/media/Perp_zpsc6426e42.jpg.html)


Ha ha! That is fucking awesome!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 13 August, 2013, 09:16:27 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 13 August, 2013, 06:20:03 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 August, 2013, 04:03:51 PM

A little more on the Adi Shankar

Well, I hope we'll feel very shirty and insulted when he doesn't turn up and show what he's doing regularly...

I demand to know more yesterday"!"!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 13 August, 2013, 09:28:28 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 13 August, 2013, 09:16:27 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 13 August, 2013, 06:20:03 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 August, 2013, 04:03:51 PM

A little more on the Adi Shankar

Well, I hope we'll feel very shirty and insulted when he doesn't turn up and show what he's doing regularly...

I demand to know more yesterday"!"!

That's the spirit!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 14 August, 2013, 03:20:05 AM
You guys suck at the quoting.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 14 August, 2013, 03:30:47 AM
Quote from: Stan on 14 August, 2013, 03:20:05 AM
You guys suck at the quoting.

Yes they bally well do ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 14 August, 2013, 07:58:39 AM
Quote from: Stan on 14 August, 2013, 03:20:05 AM
You guys suck at the quoting. we certainly
do!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 August, 2013, 08:51:20 PM

Deaf female friend been message me on Facebook tonight;

Hiya, Judge Dredd is on tonite did u kw that? 9pm channel 5*

Yeah, I prefer the latest Dredd, but enjoy the film tonight

Is that one a remake then?

Well Dredd is reboot.

? Thats computers dude.

(http://replygif.net/i/147.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 14 August, 2013, 11:01:22 PM
The missus called me sad last night when she found my Dredd DVD still shrinkwrapped saying "why when you already have it on Blue ray".
Some people. They just don't understand.





V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 15 August, 2013, 01:30:00 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 14 August, 2013, 03:30:47 AM
Quote from: Stan on 14 August, 2013, 03:20:05 AM

Yes they bally well do ::)
You guys suck at the quoting.
Really?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 August, 2013, 11:02:43 AM
Saw this via Twitter/Instagram:

http://instagram.com/p/dApTzpEyOt/# (http://instagram.com/p/dApTzpEyOt/#)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 August, 2013, 11:31:17 AM
Dredd makes top 10 of UK Home Video sales for first half of 2013

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/10216063/Tesco-closes-in-on-HMV-as-top-high-street-DVD-retailer.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/10216063/Tesco-closes-in-on-HMV-as-top-high-street-DVD-retailer.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 August, 2013, 11:34:55 AM

Come on, Sequel!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 15 August, 2013, 01:21:17 PM
a rough idea of the sales would have been cool. Didn't expect looper to get in the top 10.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 15 August, 2013, 02:10:20 PM
That just goes to show how great Dredd is because that top 10 has some big names on it. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 15 August, 2013, 02:51:07 PM
Quote from: hazy efc on 15 August, 2013, 02:10:20 PM
That just goes to show how great Dredd is because that top 10 has some big names on it. :thumbsup:
Including Taken 2!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James on 15 August, 2013, 06:39:20 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 15 August, 2013, 11:31:17 AM
Dredd makes top 10 of UK Home Video sales for first half of 2013

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/10216063/Tesco-closes-in-on-HMV-as-top-high-street-DVD-retailer.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/10216063/Tesco-closes-in-on-HMV-as-top-high-street-DVD-retailer.html)

That's quite significant if you think that I reckon if you asked the 'man on the street' which of those films he's heard of, I bet 9 out of 10 would have heard of all of them except Dredd and maybe Looper.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 August, 2013, 08:43:28 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 15 August, 2013, 01:21:17 PM
Didn't expect looper to get in the top 10.

It sold more DVDs than Dredd. Most of Dredd's sales were blu-ray.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 15 August, 2013, 09:54:51 PM
It did? Guess most of Dredd's sales were Blu-ray though?

Still, thought Dredd would be a bit higher though, I was under the impression it was doing unprecedented business on the home video.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 August, 2013, 10:12:48 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 15 August, 2013, 09:54:51 PM
It did? Guess most of Dredd's sales were Blu-ray though?

Still, thought Dredd would be a bit higher though, I was under the impression it was doing unprecedented business on the home video.

'Unprecedented' would make it number 1. As it is Skyfall sold around 3 million units; Dredd would be more like 400,000-500,000.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 15 August, 2013, 10:47:31 PM
Quote from: James on 15 August, 2013, 06:39:20 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 15 August, 2013, 11:31:17 AM
Dredd makes top 10 of UK Home Video sales for first half of 2013

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/10216063/Tesco-closes-in-on-HMV-as-top-high-street-DVD-retailer.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/10216063/Tesco-closes-in-on-HMV-as-top-high-street-DVD-retailer.html)

That's quite significant if you think that I reckon if you asked the 'man on the street' which of those films he's heard of, I bet 9 out of 10 would have heard of all of them except Dredd and maybe Looper.

Pretty sure most people have heard of the film... it has been in every supermarket, it was on TV quite a bit and it was in trailers at other films. So the 'man on the street' will almost certainly have heard of it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 August, 2013, 11:46:57 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 15 August, 2013, 09:54:51 PM
It did? Guess most of Dredd's sales were Blu-ray though?

Still, thought Dredd would be a bit higher though, I was under the impression it was doing unprecedented business on the home video.

I think you've misinterpreted - Dredd is doing incredibly well on home video RELATIVE to how poorly it did at the box office. The fact that - at least in the UK - it's holding its own against films that made many times more money than it did at the cinema is great news.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 16 August, 2013, 01:24:28 PM
I said it before and ill say it again its fantastic that Dredd is holding its own home video sales wise against films that already have locked in audiences. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 August, 2013, 04:35:31 PM
Ok, but it was topping the charts for a while though wasn't it? Maybe I imagined it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 17 August, 2013, 09:03:32 AM
http://www.comicvine.com/articles/dredd-tops-dvd-and-blu-ray-sales-charts/1100-145864/ (http://www.comicvine.com/articles/dredd-tops-dvd-and-blu-ray-sales-charts/1100-145864/)

I can't remember how long it was at number 1 for, but it seemed to hang around the top 10 for a good while.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 17 August, 2013, 10:03:25 AM
Linked to on the IMDB forum.

http://www.bva.org.uk/files/u1/bvaJUL2013.pdf (http://www.bva.org.uk/files/u1/bvaJUL2013.pdf)

Page 12 has sales figures for the UK, average price etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DaveGYNWA on 17 August, 2013, 10:07:15 AM
Nice to see Dredd turning up at Bloodstock last weekend:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x131vyq_anthrax-i-am-the-law_music
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 August, 2013, 12:08:56 PM
SFX's annual awards published today and it's pretty good new for all things Dredd and 2000AD related.

Best Director: Peter Travis 4th place.

Best Film: Dredd 3rd place.

Best Actor: Karl Urban (Dredd) 10th place.

Best Comic: 2000AD 2nd.

Best Villain: Ma-Ma 9th place.

Biggest Disappointment: Dredd's Box Office 10th place.

Hope for the future: Dredd 2 10th place.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 17 August, 2013, 06:38:14 PM
Dredd should of come 1st in each category in my opinion but maybe thats me being biased haha.  :lol:
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 17 August, 2013, 06:40:50 PM
Grrr what won best comic?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 17 August, 2013, 06:41:39 PM
Woohoo! Great result! I'm not going to ask who got 1st place, as I don't care that much.

I've just watched the film for the nth time (25th? 26th?) in Planet Replica uniform, on the big screen at the Dundee Tattoo Convention.  I actually stomped through Dundee town centre in uniform with a couple of photographers, looking for a copy of the film, which we eventually found in HMV. Pics will follow in due course.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 17 August, 2013, 06:44:56 PM
Quote from: DaveGYNWA on 17 August, 2013, 10:07:15 AM
Nice to see Dredd turning up at Bloodstock last weekend:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x131vyq_anthrax-i-am-the-law_music
WOW thats fantastic  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 August, 2013, 07:02:58 PM
Quote from: sheldipez on 17 August, 2013, 06:40:50 PM
Grrr what won best comic?!

The rather predictable (only comic the masses have heard of) The Walking Dead.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 August, 2013, 07:07:25 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 17 August, 2013, 06:41:39 PM
Woohoo! Great result! I'm not going to ask who got 1st place, as I don't care that much.

I've just watched the film for the nth time (25th? 26th?) in Planet Replica uniform, on the big screen at the Dundee Tattoo Convention.  I actually stomped through Dundee town centre in uniform with a couple of photographers, looking for a copy of the film, which we eventually found in HMV. Pics will follow in due course.

I'll tell you anyway!     :)

Again, the rather predictable Avengers Assemble came first with the rather unexpected The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey coming second.

Still it beat, TDKR, The Hunger Games and Skyfall so that's some major achievement!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 August, 2013, 06:07:48 PM
Some new pictures of one of the movie costumes here.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7393/9540205818_800fcaacc1_b.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7417/9537420477_2747ee2323_m.jpg)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3676/9540207950_10fea88ff4_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 August, 2013, 06:08:42 PM
Oops. Bigger one.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7417/9537420477_2747ee2323_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JamesC on 18 August, 2013, 06:38:02 PM
A new IGN article about favourite 'R' rated comic movies.

Dredd comes 7th but rather confusingly they seem to think he's a DC character!

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/08/18/top-12-r-rated-comic-book-movies

Nice to see a bit of Dredd support in the comments section though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 18 August, 2013, 08:19:44 PM
I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned this, but Sky TV are a running a promo for their 'Superheroes' movie channel featuring Dredd a couple of times, fairly prominently, surrounded by $100m+ blockbusters.

Not bad mainstream exposure, especially with it being 18 certificate.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 August, 2013, 08:21:32 PM
Nice photos Steve :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 August, 2013, 09:03:59 PM
Thankyouverymuch!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 August, 2013, 10:51:34 PM

Quote from: Steve Green on 18 August, 2013, 06:08:42 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7417/9537420477_2747ee2323_b.jpg)


Nice to see Nick getting value out of his uniform; probably hasn't taken it off since he bought it. Revisiting old locations as well.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 August, 2013, 08:50:27 AM
Haha, yeah - we shot a bunch in his back garden, luckily I took a load of stills at Magna when shooting Minty, so they came in handy as a more suitable background.

It's a very nice prop.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 19 August, 2013, 10:46:30 AM
Digital Spy have put together a list of '21 movies that should have had a sequel'.

The list itself is a bit odd and includes some films that are complete stories that resolutely do not need sequels (Truman Show, Iron Giant) and other where a sequel would be a depressing car crash (The Goonies, Ferris Bueller's Day Off), but hey - look who is there on the front page:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/at-the-movies/a506223/21-movies-that-shouldve-had-a-sequel-the-incredibles-goonies-more.html (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/at-the-movies/a506223/21-movies-that-shouldve-had-a-sequel-the-incredibles-goonies-more.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 August, 2013, 01:48:05 PM
All this just keeps the film in the public eye, a little bit in a mag, a few bits online, a few images on Sky advertising, can only be a good thing!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 19 August, 2013, 04:13:53 PM
I for one want a masters the universe 2 haha.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 19 August, 2013, 04:15:25 PM
That would be OF the universe.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 19 August, 2013, 06:07:08 PM
Im hoping Dredd could end up being the next Bond type franchise going on for years with all the possible stories to choose from its not that far fetched a dream  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 19 August, 2013, 08:38:11 PM
such is the mind melting power of the CF meme I read it as Judge Burdis not Guthrie on that new costume.  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 August, 2013, 09:45:56 PM


Comicbook.com has put together a list of their top 5 R-rated comic book movies and who can guess who's number one?

http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/08/18/the-five-best-r-rated-comic-book-movies-updated-2013/ (http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/08/18/the-five-best-r-rated-comic-book-movies-updated-2013/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 August, 2013, 11:38:04 PM
No idea!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 20 August, 2013, 08:16:44 AM
so what's next for the make a dredd sequel campaign?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 20 August, 2013, 01:05:09 PM
An aerial carpet drop of Dredd's over Hollywood  :|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 August, 2013, 06:56:36 PM
I'm not sure what else they can do really - 2000AD have run an ad in the latest prog, and there are unrelated things like the comic sequel running next month in the meg.

Add to that Adi Shankar's short, any fan films, increased visibility of cosplayers.

I've no idea what effect this has, but at the very least it increases Dredd's visibility and reduces the chance of people thinking of the Stallone film when others talk about Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 August, 2013, 07:06:05 PM
Also more and more Judges are on show at conventions now, which is good for keeping the images on the web and in the public eye.
At MEM in November there will be a mass patrol that should look awesome and will get good coverage, again on the web and who knows where else!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 20 August, 2013, 07:31:57 PM
This article on SF Signal is indicative of the lack of interest in Dredd in North America. He read 2000AD, claims he loves Dredd, but still hasn't seen the film. WTF?

http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2013/08/words-and-pictures-judge-dredd/ (http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2013/08/words-and-pictures-judge-dredd/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 August, 2013, 07:42:45 PM
Quote from: von Boom on 20 August, 2013, 07:31:57 PM
This article on SF Signal is indicative of the lack of interest in Dredd in North America. He read 2000AD, claims he loves Dredd, but still hasn't seen the film. WTF?

http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2013/08/words-and-pictures-judge-dredd/ (http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2013/08/words-and-pictures-judge-dredd/)


I've seen that statement repeated by people on this side of the Atlantic Ridge.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 August, 2013, 07:45:26 PM
Drokk! He also used the 'target audience' bollocks  >:(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 August, 2013, 10:01:48 PM
75,000 names on the petition as of the 19th, from 2000 AD twitter feed!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mabs on 21 August, 2013, 02:07:16 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 14 August, 2013, 08:51:20 PM

Deaf female friend been message me on Facebook tonight;

Hiya, Judge Dredd is on tonite did u kw that? 9pm channel 5*

Yeah, I prefer the latest Dredd, but enjoy the film tonight

Is that one a remake then?

Well Dredd is reboot.

? Thats computers dude.

(http://replygif.net/i/147.gif)

:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 21 August, 2013, 12:37:51 PM
QuoteHalfway through, Garland... opens a plot hole he perhaps knew needed closing.

This is from the review linked to within the article. What's he on about?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 21 August, 2013, 12:56:02 PM
Your guess is as good as mine...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 21 August, 2013, 04:51:52 PM
Quote from: von Boom on 20 August, 2013, 07:31:57 PM
This article on SF Signal is indicative of the lack of interest in Dredd in North America. He read 2000AD, claims he loves Dredd, but still hasn't seen the film. WTF?

http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2013/08/words-and-pictures-judge-dredd/ (http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2013/08/words-and-pictures-judge-dredd/)

Nothing particularly wrong with that, I buy umpteen Spider-Man comics a month and have zero interest in any Spidey movies and only caught the Raimi versions in bits here and there through TV. Just because you love the source material doesn't automatically make you want to watch an adaptation.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 21 August, 2013, 07:45:52 PM
Quote from: sheldipez on 21 August, 2013, 04:51:52 PM
Quote from: von Boom on 20 August, 2013, 07:31:57 PM
This article on SF Signal is indicative of the lack of interest in Dredd in North America. He read 2000AD, claims he loves Dredd, but still hasn't seen the film. WTF?

http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2013/08/words-and-pictures-judge-dredd/ (http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2013/08/words-and-pictures-judge-dredd/)

Nothing particularly wrong with that, I buy umpteen Spider-Man comics a month and have zero interest in any Spidey movies and only caught the Raimi versions in bits here and there through TV. Just because you love the source material doesn't automatically make you want to watch an adaptation.

I feel the same. Although as a reviewer being aware of more can only help you in your work, seeing it I mean.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 August, 2013, 08:02:42 PM
But, we have helped change his mind on seeing Dredd as he is going to buy the disc now! Just read the comments after his post, ahem!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 21 August, 2013, 10:47:27 PM
think we'll need more then 75,000 signs. Shame the Dredd page run by lionsgate hasn't bothered sharing it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 August, 2013, 10:59:54 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 21 August, 2013, 10:47:27 PM
think we'll need more then 75,000 signs. Shame the Dredd page run by lionsgate hasn't bothered sharing it.


5 million signatures wouldn't fund or greenlight a sequel but then that's not really the point of the petition. It's free marketing for the film and it helps sales of the blu-ray because it's a specific forum and focal for people to rally to.


It's got more signatures than any of the Firefly petitions ever did.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 August, 2013, 12:25:21 AM
True, but still, lionsgate could at least share the thing.

I hope the decision makers show sort of recognition soon. Even a "we're considering it" I think would get the buzz flowing again.

Or Karl Urban doing a little youtube video with his Dredd helmet on telling people to support the page would be ace.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 August, 2013, 12:40:52 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 August, 2013, 12:25:21 AM
True, but still, lionsgate could at least share the thing.

I hope the decision makers show sort of recognition soon. Even a "we're considering it" I think would get the buzz flowing again.


It might look a bit strange for Lionsgate to post something that is aimed at them. It wouldn't be sincere.

To be honest, I wouldn't expect any kind of movement on this, if there ever is, for a while. A two-year window at least.

They'll never publicly say 'we wont to make it' while their license term is still active so it's best just to wait and see.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 22 August, 2013, 01:44:11 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 18 August, 2013, 06:07:48 PM
Some new pictures of one of the movie costumes here.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7393/9540205818_800fcaacc1_b.jpg)

I don't even want to think about how much those cost but they're ace.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 August, 2013, 08:37:47 AM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 22 August, 2013, 12:25:21 AM
True, but still, lionsgate could at least share the thing.

I hope the decision makers show sort of recognition soon. Even a "we're considering it" I think would get the buzz flowing again.

Or Karl Urban doing a little youtube video with his Dredd helmet on telling people to support the page would be ace.

Yeah, a video would be cool.

I just think they'd be best served by getting a decent collector's edition out for Christmas.

Bundle what they can - the prequel and sequel comics, extended featurettes, a commentary etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 August, 2013, 09:00:58 AM

And Easter Eggs trivia track!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: lborl on 22 August, 2013, 10:57:35 AM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 21 August, 2013, 12:37:51 PM
QuoteHalfway through, Garland... opens a plot hole he perhaps knew needed closing.

This is from the review linked to within the article. What's he on about?

Is it those two non-corrupt Judges who are waiting outside Peach Trees first? When Lex and the others turn up to take over they both just shrug and move along, like how in a regular police film FBI guys override a regular detective, except in this case all of them are Judges of presumably equal rank with headset access to Control, so any order to override they ought to have known about or would have least have been able to question. To close the 'hole' all the Judges there should probably have gone in though admittedly that just would've added another few minutes to the run-time of the corrupt Judges having to murder them too - though it could also have maybe hidden that twist a little longer and put a bit more suspense in there, if the backhanders don't show their affiliations right away.

I guess it's also a bit odd that Ma-Ma has corrupt Judges on her payroll who seem to know as soon as they're called exactly where her penthouse is and everything, as if they go there often, but that Peach Trees medic guy tells Dredd near the beginning that he never sees any Judges at the block.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 22 August, 2013, 11:28:48 AM
Quote from: lborl on 22 August, 2013, 10:57:35 AM
I guess it's also a bit odd that Ma-Ma has corrupt Judges on her payroll who seem to know as soon as they're called exactly where her penthouse is and everything, as if they go there often, but that Peach Trees medic guy tells Dredd near the beginning that he never sees any Judges at the block.

Because Judges can't get out of their uniform and go there in plain clothes I suppose?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 22 August, 2013, 11:35:18 AM
Quote from: lborl on 22 August, 2013, 10:57:35 AM...who seem to know as soon as they're called exactly where her penthouse is and everything...

At the top?

If judges pulling rank is the only plothole there's not much to complain about.  The weakness in this scene is the passivity of the two original lads in dealing with Dominic's obfustication.   

For me the failure to get airlifted from/rappel off the skatepark is the main weakness in the plot, but it's a minor one, and it's such a great scene that I can't hold it against them.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 August, 2013, 11:36:48 AM
QuoteIs it those two non-corrupt Judges who are waiting outside Peach Trees first? When Lex and the others turn up to take over they both just shrug and move along, like how in a regular police film FBI guys override a regular detective, except in this case all of them are Judges of presumably equal rank with headset access to Control, so any order to override they ought to have known about or would have least have been able to question. To close the 'hole' all the Judges there should probably have gone in though admittedly that just would've added another few minutes to the run-time of the corrupt Judges having to murder them too - though it could also have maybe hidden that twist a little longer and put a bit more suspense in there, if the backhanders don't show their affiliations right away.

I guess it's also a bit odd that Ma-Ma has corrupt Judges on her payroll who seem to know as soon as they're called exactly where her penthouse is and everything, as if they go there often, but that Peach Trees medic guy tells Dredd near the beginning that he never sees any Judges at the block.

None of that represents what I would call a plothole - or even any kind of possible nitpick.

There definitely is a rank system for judges - Lex actually says he has been on the streets for 20 years so would likely outrank the other two.

The medic implies that judges only attend Peach Trees very rarely, not 'never', and in any case there's no implication that the bad judges know Ma Ma personally or have had any previous contact with her, though it's likely that a crime boss with Ma Ma's stature would have access to bent judges. None of this has any relevance to the plot.

To my mind the only actual plot wrinkles in the film that might make someone go "Eh?" are;

Dredd using a 'hotshot' round to execute the perp at the beginning seems a little sadistic and risky - surely a richochet round would have made more sense? Also - a very nerdy, largely irrelevant quibble would be that the 'hotshot' round seems to be a mishmash of the incendiary and heatseeker rounds from the comic.

Dredd throwing Ma Ma from the balcony - was he really going to risk blowing up the whole block just to execute Ma Ma? You could argue that Dredd knew exactly what he was doing and was 100% sure that the signal would be blocked - but there did seem to be an element of risk, making Dredd into quite a dangerous maverick. Also Dredd dosing Ma Ma with the drug - it's another cool moment, but does seem a bit off for the character.

Ma Ma's plan being a little bit mental - I understand she was reacting out of desperation, but how was she planning on explaining the destruction of an entire floor when judges arrived to find the missing Dredd and Anderson?

Dredd repeatedly failing to pick up extra ammo or a secondary weapon, because they need to contrive a way to get to the - admittedly awesome - Hi Ex to the head moment.

Ultimately though, it's a tighter script than most genre movies.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 August, 2013, 11:40:06 AM
QuoteFor me the failure to get airlifted from/rappel off the skatepark is the main weakness in the plot, but it's a minor one, and it's such a great scene that I can't hold it against them.

They were far, far too high up to rappel down (we see the height of the skate park early on in the film), even if they had ropes, and they were sitting ducks where they were - Ma Ma's goons were already on the way to check for survivors and they would have been caught out in an area with no cover by the time air support arrived (presuming the judges in the movie universe actually have air support capable of airlifting - all we see are aerial drones).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 August, 2013, 11:42:19 AM
QuoteThere definitely is a rank system for judges - Lex actually says he has been on the streets for 20 years so would likely outrank the other two.

And who's to say that Lex, Chan and co don't have a reputation for being crooked, dangerous, and not people to stand in the way of - it would only be right that the other two would be intimidated - being outnumbered and outgunned and all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 August, 2013, 11:45:13 AM
I'm not sure how you'd wangle Ricochet into a conversation with a hostage-taker...

If they'd had that, people would have accused them of ripping off Robocop.

A comic heatseeker might have worked if they'd kept the scope on the LG, or established that the visor has a link to the gun - Dredd locks onto the target, points the gun away and fires but it arcs around and gets him anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 August, 2013, 11:59:34 AM
QuoteI'm not sure how you'd wangle Ricochet into a conversation with a hostage-taker...

Good point. I've always wondered if the lawgiver in the comic is actually supposed to be voice-activated as in the films, or if that's people misinterpreting the way Dredd shouts the name of whatever he's doing to clue in readers of the comic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 22 August, 2013, 12:02:30 PM
Quote from: radiator on 22 August, 2013, 11:40:06 AM
They were far, far too high up to rappel down (we see the height of the skate park early on in the film), even if they had ropes, and they were sitting ducks where they were - Ma Ma's goons were already on the way to check for survivors and they would have been caught out in an area with no cover by the time air support arrived (presuming the judges in the movie universe actually have air support capable of airlifting - all we see are aerial drones).

Helicopters?

I know the park is about half-way up, but getting off the level and onto what looks like a fairly climbable exterior with radio contact would have been a start.  I suppose the real fly in that ointment are the skaters, who would presumably give away their position when Caleb comes to check.

But like I say, I'm genuinely struggling to imagine what anyone could call a plot hole in comparison with the average action flick.

As to your own points, all of MaMa's dafter actions can be rationalised by the fact that she was in an entirely fatalistic state of mind, as much a prisoner of Peach Trees as her victims or the two Judges.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 August, 2013, 12:03:34 PM
I can't honestly remember - it didn't seem to be at the beginning with the manual dial - like you say it just became a shorthand.

Maybe it fed back into the comic after the 1995 film and the MKII/Doomsday storyline - I haven't read it since it was published.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 August, 2013, 08:43:12 PM
Another pic of the propstore outfit.

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5482/9569883677_ca35d264a0_h.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 August, 2013, 08:44:03 PM

That's damn good uniform :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 23 August, 2013, 09:44:40 AM
It's very nice. Takes a lot longer than Dredd does to get someone into it though...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 August, 2013, 02:23:31 AM
SFX #239 October 2013 (http://karlurbaninternational.foros.ws/t3192/dredd-again-megazine-follows-up-last-years-movie-in-print/)


(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab127/kirill_love88/SFX-2013-OCT-239-01-01.jpg)(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab127/kirill_love88/SFX-2013-OCT-239-01-02.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 August, 2013, 02:25:55 AM



More action and adventure in the future-shocked world of Judge Dredd! Return to the Mega-City One of the critically acclaimed movie as this issue sees the start of a comic-based sequel, 'Underbelly,' scripted by Arthur Wyatt and illustrated by Henry Flint, as perps try to fill the power vacuum left by Ma-Ma's death. (http://forbiddenplanet.com/105197-judge-dredd-megazine-340/)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 August, 2013, 02:41:05 AM


Judge Dredd Megazine #341: Underbelly Part 2 (http://pulllist.comixology.com/sku/AUG131426/Judge-Dredd-Megazine-341)

[spoiler]More action and adventure in the future-shocked world of Judge Dredd! The future lawman tracks a mutant-trafficking gang in the second episode of the comic-book sequel to Dredd, 'Underbelly.'
[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 25 August, 2013, 02:04:30 PM
They should have put a bit more of karl's  features in there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 25 August, 2013, 02:22:20 PM
 The propstore outfit and the photos look excellent Steve, were the muzzle flash and sparks added in photoshop? Looks really effective.

I'm looking forward to "Underbelly" in the Meg, i'm sure Messrs Wyatt & Flint will do a superb job. This 'ultimate' style Dredd is how I had hoped IDW would have gone with their monthly Judge Dredd comic, instead of trying to set their stories into 2000AD Dredd's world. So far the IDW stories have felt like I was reading an 'Elseworld' tale, not quite sitting in the JD canon.

A good little article from SFX though, promoting the Meg and giving a little more publicity to the Dredd sequel campaign too.

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 25 August, 2013, 02:23:09 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 25 August, 2013, 02:04:30 PM
They should have put a bit more of karl's  features in there.

...for which they'd probably have had to pay him and give him art approval, since, in the US, actors own the copyright on their own likeness.  (In the comic adaptation of the Stallone Dredd movie, Stallone's people apparently requested major changes in the likeness used for him.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 25 August, 2013, 02:32:14 PM
Quote from: SKD on 25 August, 2013, 02:22:20 PM
The propstore outfit and the photos look excellent Steve, were the muzzle flash and sparks added in photoshop? Looks really effective.

I'm looking forward to "Underbelly" in the Meg, i'm sure Messrs Wyatt & Flint will do a superb job. This 'ultimate' style Dredd is how I had hoped IDW would have gone with their monthly Judge Dredd comic, instead of trying to set their stories into 2000AD Dredd's world. So far the IDW stories have felt like I was reading an 'Elseworld' tale, not quite sitting in the JD canon.

A good little article from SFX though, promoting the Meg and giving a little more publicity to the Dredd sequel campaign too.

Stew.

Thanks, After Effects rather than Photoshop, but yeah CG smoke and sparks and a stock muzzle flash.

A bit more appropriate than a patio and a trampoline in the background anyway...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 25 August, 2013, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 25 August, 2013, 02:32:14 PM
Thanks, After Effects rather than Photoshop, but yeah CG smoke and sparks and a stock muzzle flash.

A bit more appropriate than a patio and a trampoline in the background anyway...

Guthrie crashes the BBQ?

Again, great work.

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 August, 2013, 04:32:50 PM



So Anderson now has a PSI badge.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 25 August, 2013, 05:43:11 PM
I just saw this from @deerang22 on Twitter...Great news, an undisclosed source at DNA films just told me that a sequel to Dredd 3D is now looking "highly likely".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 25 August, 2013, 05:44:49 PM
Well, I'm convinced.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 25 August, 2013, 05:48:48 PM
My mate Dave reckons they'll probably do a sequel too. You heard it here first.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 25 August, 2013, 05:52:41 PM
Now from @DreddSequel "UNCONFIRMED SOURCE: DNA Films to review home video sales of DREDD to decide if they want to make the sequel! Let's make it #1!"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 25 August, 2013, 06:11:50 PM
Not exactly anything we haven't heard before though is it? :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 25 August, 2013, 06:19:43 PM
There's only so many times you can keep repeating the same anonymous rumour before even the most rabid fans stop biting.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 25 August, 2013, 08:22:12 PM
Current rumour on Face Book is Affleck is to play Dredd in the sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 August, 2013, 08:28:06 PM




Cranston to play Fillmore Faro.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 25 August, 2013, 08:49:44 PM
Kojack is rumoured to be in the running for Lex Luthor.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 August, 2013, 08:51:27 PM


Karl Urban rumoured to be play Dredd... Oh wait

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Ghost MacRoth on 25 August, 2013, 08:58:22 PM
I heard someone talking about a rumour that someone told them about, after they had read it quoted by a third party on a forum about dishwashers, that I was rumoured to have been signed to play Dredd.

I wonder if it's true?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 25 August, 2013, 09:31:58 PM
That's it I'm not playing with any of you ever again!! Sob! sob! etc (...runs away up the close greetin' his eyes oot.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 26 August, 2013, 09:42:27 PM
Cue spike in Blu-ray sales post latest movie sequel rumor.  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 27 August, 2013, 01:25:41 AM
hope it's true!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 August, 2013, 01:21:35 PM


What the latest....?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 28 August, 2013, 02:35:59 PM
Nothing new.

Dredd still seems to be doing OK in the home video charts.
The Comic Sequel is out next month.
There should be quite a few 2012 Judges at DragonCon in Atlanta this weekend.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 August, 2013, 09:57:07 PM

To tide you over:

Riddick Complete B-Roll (2013) - Vin Diesel, Karl Urban  (http://some%20http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEqyrJTYp4)

Karl Urban Interview - Riddick (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eEo4CwfpJM)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 August, 2013, 01:58:44 AM



Jock has apparently doing some concept work on Ex Machina (http://www.4twenty.co.uk/movies/ex-machina/).

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 August, 2013, 09:18:02 AM


Ex Machina is code name for Dredd 2...






in my dream.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 30 August, 2013, 01:44:23 PM
Watched it again last night having left it alone for a few months and for some reason it has got better...was by far my most pleasurable viewing and i've no idea why
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 30 August, 2013, 02:05:25 PM
I had very mixed feelings about the film the first time I saw it - I think being so invested in something as a fan - then to watch it, in the circumstances I did at the fan screening kind of broke my brain, and it took another two viewings to even be able fairly judge it as a piece of work.

It's definitely a film that not only stands up to repeat viewings, but actually gets better the more you rewatch it. I think the key thing is that it's a film that leaves you wanting more - so rare these days when the majority of blockbusters and genre films are so dense, longwinded and narratively unsatisfying that I wouldn't be able to sit through them more than once. I've noticed this within my social group as well - it's a film that people seem to grow ever more fond of as time goes by - unlike a lot of films I could mention that no one will really care about when the hype has died down - very much a modern cult classic.

I proudly have it on my Blu Ray shelf in good company alongside Robocop, The Terminator, Total Recall 1990, Aliens and Predator - it is, like them, a film I would happily watch any time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 August, 2013, 02:17:57 PM

There an article about Made a Dredd sequel by 2000AD and fans on Total Film as someone post it to Made A Dredd Sequel on Facebook.

(http://i.imgur.com/iU5EQEy.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 30 August, 2013, 04:08:53 PM
Quote from: radiator on 30 August, 2013, 02:05:25 PM

It's definitely a film that not only stands up to repeat viewings, but actually gets better the more you rewatch it. I think the key thing is that it's a film that leaves you wanting more - so rare these days when the majority of blockbusters and genre films are so dense, longwinded and narratively unsatisfying that I wouldn't be able to sit through them more than once. I've noticed this within my social group as well - it's a film that people seem to grow ever more fond of as time goes by - unlike a lot of films I could mention that no one will really care about when the hype has died down - very much a modern cult classic.


I could not agree more!!!  It has been such a bloody long time since I last wanted to watch a film more than once - certainly nothing this decade.  Dredd does seem to leave some poeple a bit bemused about the fuss after first watch.  My sister checked it out yesterday, and reported it as 'OK'.  However, it sparked a discussion about the strong female roles in it, something close to her heart.  She bizarrely had initially noticed that, and I suggested she watch it again. 

Considering all the action in Dredd it is such a nuanced and subtle film.  However, it's very easy to miss all this in first viewing, and even the second or third!  As such, it bears many repeat viewings.  I'm at around the 25 mark, but then I admit that probably is a bit much to expect of non-fans...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 30 August, 2013, 04:20:24 PM
QuoteHowever, it sparked a discussion about the strong female roles in it, something close to her heart.
The great thing about the women in Dredd is they just are. There's no sexing them up. Anderson's a cop. Her uniform is the same as Dredd's, just a few sizes smaller. Ma-Ma, despite her origins, is just a ruthless bad-ass. They didn't turn her into some super-sexy evil vixen. She's just scary as hell, as a villain should be.

Many people (including a number of feminist bloggers) spent last summer waxing lyrical over various major films as hitting goals regarding women in film, but I just didn't see it. Avengers had a reasonable stab at it within the limitations of the Marvel universe, with two fairly prominent roles; but Black Widow was still Smurfette and seemingly suffered from a terribly sticky zipper on her costume. (For some reason, Hawkeye had no such issues.) And then there was the sexist guff of Bond. It would have been great to see more Dredd and Anderson for this reason alone; alas...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 August, 2013, 04:25:21 PM

Then show them these;

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/c82345e8871b4c99c236bf3df714030e/tumblr_mr3rijfdh51r8ufc5o1_500.gif)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/1a96e66cb760d2592e7ea8da190d2df7/tumblr_mh39ma2chc1r7a0wxo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 30 August, 2013, 05:02:08 PM
Sound like the 'Make A Dredd Sequel' bods on Facebook are cooking up a 'Buy Dredd Day' next month to help with the sequel cause!   :)


https://www.facebook.com/MakeADreddSequel?ref=ts&fref=ts
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 30 August, 2013, 11:22:39 PM
Rewatched Dredd for my forth time with many more to come. To echo the other boarders comments it just gets better with age ( like a fine vino).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 August, 2013, 12:08:36 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 30 August, 2013, 04:20:24 PM
There's no sexing them up. Anderson's a cop. Her uniform is the same as Dredd's, just a few sizes smaller.


They're both equally leather clad sex-pots. Considering the amount of tight leather Judge uniforms being made, a proportion worn by women, it wouldn't surprise if a few of those cos-players are dirty buggers in the sack:

(https://sphotos-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1238917_334174010052403_1351154011_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 31 August, 2013, 12:24:42 AM
Yeah, great, but why aren't they wearing their helmets?!?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steven Sterlacchini on 31 August, 2013, 01:25:14 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 31 August, 2013, 12:24:42 AM
Yeah, great, but why aren't they wearing their helmets?!?

It looks like a 'pre troop' memento photo, before hitting the streets.

I'm sure a few people will have to take off their hats during the day to avoid chronic heat exhaustion. They're not like Burdis, yourself and me. The only person who will see my full face during a troop is the paramedic!

Hard core!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 August, 2013, 01:30:22 AM



(https://sphotos-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1234047_4571748631212_212698287_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steven Sterlacchini on 31 August, 2013, 01:36:43 AM
Yep, that's cool.

Apparently "You can throw a rock in Atlanta and hit SOMETHING called Peachtree"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 31 August, 2013, 01:54:43 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 30 August, 2013, 04:20:24 PM
QuoteHowever, it sparked a discussion about the strong female roles in it, something close to her heart.
They didn't turn her into some super-sexy evil vixen.

She is still super sexy though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 August, 2013, 01:56:22 AM
Haha! PeachTree!!

The photo of Judges looks awesome!!

Oh sorry but does that judge at middle left wear a jacket? But he got good helmet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 August, 2013, 02:55:53 AM


Look who's at the back:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1235136_673741985970534_763690020_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 August, 2013, 02:59:43 AM
The bloke 'middle left' may not have had his body armour delivered (long story) and so he's wearing the leathers only.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 31 August, 2013, 06:49:59 AM
Thanks for posting picture .. nice to see folk having fun and getting the word out  across the POND
:)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 31 August, 2013, 07:58:13 AM
Brilliant - hope they get a Gaze into the Fist of Dredd pic.

Really good to see that many judges at a con.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 August, 2013, 08:12:28 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 August, 2013, 02:59:43 AM
The bloke 'middle left' may not have had his body armour delivered (long story) and so he's wearing the leathers only.

Aw bless him, hope it will soon, thanks for explain it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 September, 2013, 09:25:54 AM
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3795/9635388389_c29c931323_c.jpg)

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5500/9638630346_148097acec_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 01 September, 2013, 10:07:41 AM
Great pics, keep em coming  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 September, 2013, 10:46:27 AM
Lots of pics from the parade here.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/100dc/9638630346/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/100dc/9638630346/)

The Mad Max one is brilliant.


I'm sure a load of pics will surface next week.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 01 September, 2013, 11:50:25 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 31 August, 2013, 12:08:36 AM
(https://sphotos-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1238917_334174010052403_1351154011_n.jpg)

I cant quite believe the number of Dredd cosplayer in that photo! But amazingly brilliant stuff.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 September, 2013, 01:13:39 PM
Yep, I think we totted up about 15 at the last London con, it's been creeping up in the past year.

I think there are quite a few turning up at a Birmingham one as well - but great to see that kind of number in the states.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 01 September, 2013, 01:23:53 PM
Has anyone created a photo album for this anywhere online?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 September, 2013, 01:43:49 PM



DREDD costume designer Robert Alsopp will be giving a talk in Cardiff on Wednesday 11th of September.


Re-inventing costume through sculpture with Robert Allsopp (http://www.wsd2013.com/whats-on/making-the-superhuman-through-costume-with-robert-allsopp/)


(http://www.wsd2013.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/robert-allsopp.jpg)




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 September, 2013, 02:00:34 PM
That will be an interesting talk - would make a good DVD extra.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 September, 2013, 03:12:17 PM
Slightly higher res pic of the Judge Fear group shot by Jeff Vaillancourt

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5461/9633768322_3ed7a5a20b_k.jpg)

Original photographer's flickr stream here

http://www.flickr.com/photos/vailncourt/9633768322/sizes/k/in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vailncourt/9633768322/sizes/k/in/photostream/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 01 September, 2013, 06:06:55 PM
 So good to see all those folk dressed to impress. It just show's what a cool looking costume the Dredd uniform is.

The ladies look especially lovely.

Stew.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 01 September, 2013, 06:18:47 PM
Yes! the girls look good all leathered up a ready to dish out justice 8-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 01 September, 2013, 06:48:47 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 01 September, 2013, 03:12:17 PM
Original photographer's flickr stream here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vailncourt/9633768322/sizes/k/in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vailncourt/9633768322/sizes/k/in/photostream/)

And great to see that SJS cosplayer. Yanks gettin' Dredd. Who'da thunk it!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 01 September, 2013, 06:50:04 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 01 September, 2013, 06:18:47 PM
Yes! the girls look good all leathered up a ready to dish out justice 8-)

Jesus Christ... <shakes head>
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 01 September, 2013, 07:13:54 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 01 September, 2013, 06:50:04 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 01 September, 2013, 06:18:47 PM
Yes! the girls look good all leathered up a ready to dish out justice 8-)

Jesus Christ... <shakes head>
It must be he'll inside this forum your head after some comments. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 September, 2013, 07:51:46 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1236746_10200614271782853_1663990768_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 01 September, 2013, 07:59:01 PM
That's some great shit right there!    :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 September, 2013, 08:00:56 PM
Oh that's awesome! Nice twist to the helmet for SJS.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 September, 2013, 08:06:12 PM
(http://www.andyhanselman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/On-The-Buses.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 September, 2013, 08:09:39 PM

Parade:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1MpzsGQdB4&t=28m3
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 01 September, 2013, 08:12:43 PM
That SJS helmet is the dogs dangleberries

I want one
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 01 September, 2013, 08:14:03 PM
Yes. So much win. Now let's get us some Brit Cit Judges.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 01 September, 2013, 08:16:59 PM
Talking of unreal Judge helmets

Can someone please make me this?!

Pig in the proverbial

http://blindsquirrelprops.com/dredd-movie-style-brit-cit-judges-helmet/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 01 September, 2013, 08:18:11 PM
(http://blindsquirrelprops.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/BritCit47.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 September, 2013, 08:28:10 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 01 September, 2013, 08:09:39 PM

Parade:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1MpzsGQdB4&t=28m3

I was wondering if someone could do the commentary without doing a Stallone impression... nope.

Looks good with the riot shields and mics.

Loved the zombie Village People as well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 September, 2013, 08:32:32 PM


It's all brilliant, hope when sequel will happens, so those Judges will be at some cinemas in USA, for screenings of Dredd 2! :) :)


I do wonder, were there any cosplayers of 1995 Judges?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 01 September, 2013, 08:53:30 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 01 September, 2013, 08:32:32 PM


It's all brilliant, hope when sequel will happens, so those Judges will be at some cinemas in USA, for screenings of Dredd 2! :) :)


I do wonder, were there any cosplayers of 1995 Judges?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 September, 2013, 08:55:44 PM
OH THAT!!!

I was try to complete forgot that... thanks Sir Gordon for ruined my mind.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 01 September, 2013, 09:16:01 PM
In the judge Fear shot everything looks great. The red-headed lady looks particularly suited to the movie uniform (not being pervy, I mean she really looks the part of a Judge)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 02 September, 2013, 09:40:37 AM
Nice shot from Jeff Vaillancourt again, a weathered up Planet Replicas Lid.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3803/9647858233_28d6212e49_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 02 September, 2013, 05:01:46 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 31 August, 2013, 02:55:53 AM


Look who's at the back:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1235136_673741985970534_763690020_n.jpg

Yup. Still staring at the redhead.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 02 September, 2013, 06:33:44 PM
She needs to be in the soon to be announced Dredd Sequel kicking mutey ass in the cursed earth.  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 03 September, 2013, 01:31:50 PM
Quote from: Stan on 02 September, 2013, 05:01:46 PM
Yup. Still staring at the redhead.

People often say the forum needs a "LIKE" button.  I think it also needs a "THAT'S SLIGHTLY CREEPY AND MAKING ME UNCOMFORTABLE" button.*



* Especially now I won't be posting on the Underware thread any more.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 September, 2013, 02:46:05 PM
Quote from: Stan on 02 September, 2013, 05:01:46 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 31 August, 2013, 02:55:53 AM


Look who's at the back:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1235136_673741985970534_763690020_n.jpg

Yup. Still staring at the redhead.

But Burdis isn't in those shots...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 September, 2013, 02:53:35 PM
Pajiba.com - If There Were Any Justice In The World, These 8 Actors Would Already Be Household Names

http://www.pajiba.com/seriously_random_lists/if-there-were-any-justice-in-the-world-these-8-actors-would-already-be-household-names.php (http://www.pajiba.com/seriously_random_lists/if-there-were-any-justice-in-the-world-these-8-actors-would-already-be-household-names.php)

QuoteI was sort of hoping Dredd would be a breakout for her in 2012 but despite being a fun shoot-em-up, it largely went unnoticed. From what I can tell, though, a lot of folks are discovering it Netflix Instant and Thirlby has a lot of fantastic future projects on her IMDB page. She could break out any second now.

Very good article, as it goes. Some solid choices there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 03 September, 2013, 11:46:40 PM
has anybody got the news letter about the Dredd sequel petition yet? Said it was about to go out on the fb page, still not got it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 05 September, 2013, 08:29:22 AM
A load more photos from Dragoncon

http://www.flickr.com/photos/starwarsfever/sets/72157635381578779/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/starwarsfever/sets/72157635381578779/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 05 September, 2013, 08:45:43 AM
We need to see if we can get one of those done for a UK con next year. I'd be in for sure. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 September, 2013, 10:32:13 AM

So tomorrow is 1 year anniversary to release of Dredd at cinemas.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 06 September, 2013, 11:38:49 AM
anyone seen all the steelbooks Zavvi are doing ? http://www.zavvi.com/offers/steelbooks.list we should pester them for a Dredd one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 06 September, 2013, 11:46:00 AM
I'm a bit of a sucker for steelbooks, and would snap one up a Dredd in a  second, especially if it had nice artwork and some additional features. I have been sorely tempted to order the Japanese one, but it would likely cost something like £50(!), even more if I got stung for import duty. Then I'd feel like a mug when they inevitably release a UK SB the following week.  :D

I actually follow new steelbook releases as they are listed (Big Trouble in Little China and Point Break have just been announced - woop!), via this thread:

http://www.steelbookhunterz.com/index.php?threads/definitive-list-of-forthcoming-uk-blu-ray-steelbooks-2013-edition.3878/ (http://www.steelbookhunterz.com/index.php?threads/definitive-list-of-forthcoming-uk-blu-ray-steelbooks-2013-edition.3878/)

I've heard no word, or even rumours, of a UK or US Dredd SB as yet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 06 September, 2013, 12:44:23 PM
No more investment in Dredd 3D merch' as the film was a flop ( in the eyes of the movie world )!?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2013, 01:14:44 PM
From reading the comments from Dragon Con, the Judges went down well and the Planet Replicas Judge was constantly stopped for photos. This can only be good news for the American market for all things Dredd!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 06 September, 2013, 09:24:55 PM
Can't afford a steel book? do what I do and store your DVDs in an old biscuit tin with a few of the original comics chucked in.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 06 September, 2013, 10:20:20 PM
Bringing the tone down...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ6UtflPiAQ&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ6UtflPiAQ&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 September, 2013, 10:23:55 PM
And on the One Year Eve of the True Dredd film, Steve ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 06 September, 2013, 10:26:04 PM
Maybe we can lobby the Make a Dredd Sequel guys to include a breakfast cereal in the petition.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 September, 2013, 10:27:36 PM

Dredd would threw Puff Monster out the building.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 06 September, 2013, 11:00:56 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 September, 2013, 10:27:36 PM

Dredd would threw Puff Monster out the building.

...........................yeah...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 06 September, 2013, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: Mister Pops on 06 September, 2013, 11:00:56 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 September, 2013, 10:27:36 PM

Dredd would threw Puff Monster out the building.

(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Dredd-Shattered-Glass-Cinemagraph.gif%20;))

...........................yeah...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 06 September, 2013, 11:03:57 PM
Sorry, I tried to post this gif (http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Dredd-Shattered-Glass-Cinemagraph.gif) but it didn't work
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 September, 2013, 11:06:00 PM
How this? You only need img code.

(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Dredd-Shattered-Glass-Cinemagraph.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SKD on 07 September, 2013, 09:38:15 AM
 Happy Anniversary Dredd 3D. I've been and bought the Blu-ray to celebrate, just need a Blu-ray player to watch it on now.

Stew.  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DaveGYNWA on 07 September, 2013, 10:23:36 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 06 September, 2013, 10:20:20 PM
Bringing the tone down...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ6UtflPiAQ&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ6UtflPiAQ&feature=youtu.be)

My word....that totally passed me by back then (most of the 90s was spent drinking/working/drinking/working with hardly any time for television)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 07 September, 2013, 10:26:58 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 06 September, 2013, 10:20:20 PM
Bringing the tone down...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ6UtflPiAQ&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ6UtflPiAQ&feature=youtu.be)

I'm now looking at this film in a slightly better light, thanks to this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 07 September, 2013, 07:31:51 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 06 September, 2013, 10:20:20 PM
Bringing the tone down...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ6UtflPiAQ&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ6UtflPiAQ&feature=youtu.be)
Oh that's the funniest thing I've seen since dinner! :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 07 September, 2013, 07:55:46 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 September, 2013, 11:06:00 PM
How this? You only need img code.

(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Dredd-Shattered-Glass-Cinemagraph.gif)

That looks very Christmassy. Dredd authorises weather control's annual festive 30 second flurry of snow.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fisticuffs on 07 September, 2013, 09:46:26 PM
Wasn't there a really poor review of the film in which the reviewer said that the scene above was Dredd waving as he fell backwards out of a window? :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 08 September, 2013, 12:12:29 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 07 September, 2013, 07:55:46 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 September, 2013, 11:06:00 PM
How this? You only need img code.
(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Dredd-Shattered-Glass-Cinemagraph.gif)
That looks very Christmassy. Dredd authorises weather control's annual festive 30 second flurry of snow.

I particularly like the way he waves in an embarrassed manner, as though he's just been caught doing something naughty.  "Er, hello ... um, creep!"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 September, 2013, 12:22:55 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 06 September, 2013, 10:20:20 PM
Bringing the tone down...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ6UtflPiAQ&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ6UtflPiAQ&feature=youtu.be)

Urgh...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 September, 2013, 05:26:42 PM

Saw this link online, don't get what they said... Dredd: Movie Club!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlfo0Tmmnw0&feature=youtu.be&a (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlfo0Tmmnw0&feature=youtu.be&a)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 09 September, 2013, 05:37:34 PM
I liked Mommyclubber ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Recrewt on 09 September, 2013, 06:02:41 PM
I would also be interested to hear more from Mommyclubber!

I am sure it has been said before but ignoring the budgetary limitations, if Dredd had provided more of a typical futuristic MC1 that was in-line with the '95 film then I suspect it would have done a heck of a lot better in the US.  Given you can't do much to please these folks who think a movie has to have some overbearing plot, like Dark Knight Rises, but it would have got more bums on seats and given us a better chance of a sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 09 September, 2013, 06:03:23 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 09 September, 2013, 05:26:42 PM

Saw this link online, don't get what they said... Dredd: Movie Club!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlfo0Tmmnw0&feature=youtu.be&a (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlfo0Tmmnw0&feature=youtu.be&a)

Oh, yawn - these two opposing, but equally wrongheaded arguments again:

A) Dredd has 'no plot' and 'no character development'.

and

B) But that doesn't matter because it's an action movie and guns and blood and explosions AWSUMZZZ!11!.

I guess subtlety and minimalism is a lost art nowadays, and I guess people like the plonker on the left expect every single genre movie to be 3.5 hours long, have a cast of 100 named characters and a plot so labyrinthine and intricate as to be so confusing you need to read up on it afterwards to begin to reconcile all the dangling plot-threads and leaps in logic.

Neither is it a brainless, shoot 'em up gore-fest. That viewpoint is equally reactionary, and equally wrong. It's actually not a particularly violent or action-heavy movie, and is far more cleverly written than pretty much any recent superhero or genre movie you could mention. It also has some beautiful photography that border on arthouse cinema.

Sorry, know I'm going over old ground, but that video just distills every moronic, point-missing review I've ever read/seen/heard of the film.

>:(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 September, 2013, 09:19:05 AM

Oh damn, it was a dream :(

It was a scene of black background, then Urban's Dredd walking in, said nothing, then camera on his behind as he walk into doorway into dark room.... then flashes and heavy gun shots... then DREDD 2 title blow up!


Nice dream... :(

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 10 September, 2013, 01:10:37 PM
Not sure this is the right thread but.. A few months ago I saw a Die Antwoord video in which the building that doubled as the base and stairs of HOJ appeared. So what.

Just now watching this video I see Die Antwoord standing in the plaza that is the basis of Peach Trees (12:54). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgRUlVZbpcg

Again, so what. Only this picture was taken years ago AND when the band were known as 'Max Normal' or 'Max Normal TV'...and I think before Dredd was shot. There are also two scenes earlier in this doc that look strikingly similar to the road and underpass where Dredd takes out the slo-mo haulers at the start of the film.

They are clearly fans of 2000AD. But if they had advance knowledge of the set locations...or if it's just a coincidence, no sure.

Die Antwoord will soon be shooting Chappie about a domestic droid...with Neill Blomkamp.
Watch out for shades of Walter.

Just wanted to share that as trivia...although it may just be trivial.

Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 10 September, 2013, 01:14:47 PM
Any excuse to get Die Antwoord mentioned is good enough for me!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 September, 2013, 01:29:24 PM
Cool trivia there!    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 18 September, 2013, 01:06:06 PM
Glad you liked that...going out on a limb here. But 'Ninja' was 'Max Normal'....was there not a Jolanda or Yolandi in one of the stories? Forget the title, but illustrated by Cam Kennedy, she had an affair with a Judge, some creeps find out...blackmail follows...I know, it's not Yolandi...still.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 September, 2013, 01:45:26 PM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 18 September, 2013, 01:06:06 PM
Glad you liked that...going out on a limb here. But 'Ninja' was 'Max Normal'....was there not a Jolanda or Yolandi in one of the stories? Forget the title, but illustrated by Cam Kennedy, she had an affair with a Judge, some creeps find out...blackmail follows...I know, it's not Yolandi...still.


Judge Sladek's bit on the side was Yolanda.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 18 September, 2013, 11:15:50 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 September, 2013, 01:45:26 PM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 18 September, 2013, 01:06:06 PM
Glad you liked that...going out on a limb here. But 'Ninja' was 'Max Normal'....was there not a Jolanda or Yolandi in one of the stories? Forget the title, but illustrated by Cam Kennedy, she had an affair with a Judge, some creeps find out...blackmail follows...I know, it's not Yolandi...still.


Judge Sladek's bit on the side was Yolanda.

Poor Sladek....Great story.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 19 September, 2013, 12:45:17 AM
Ha! It's funny, but only a fortnight ago a colleague asked if Anderson was Dredd's love interest, and was shocked when I revealed Judges aren't allowed personal liaisons. I described the Sladek/Yolanda story as an example of why not. Conflict of interest and all that. Personal feelings getting in the way of duty and suchlike.

I think the intricacies of the story were a bit much for her, as her eyes glazed over after a while.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 September, 2013, 01:42:14 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 19 September, 2013, 12:45:17 AM
I think the intricacies of the story were a bit much for her, as her eyes glazed over after a while.

Oh...I love that look. I get it a lot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 September, 2013, 09:19:48 PM


Watch Dredd for 26th tonight, still awesome... Please let there be Dredd 2.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 September, 2013, 08:51:28 PM


well there new camera set in iPhone 5s camera - it's called Slo-Mo...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: QuickQuag on 23 September, 2013, 12:00:55 AM
Watched it again for the first time since the cinema (a pre-Day of Action purchase thanks to a recent birthday) Still very good, and well-plotted. I found myself enjoying the centering on Anderson so much though that I'm wondering whether her character could hold a movie solo?

The other thought that occurred to me is that an Anderson movie could be a better fit for Death & co along Psi lines rather than introduce them via Dredd.  Manage that and a Dredd sequel could then do, say, a Democracy Now/Chopper storyline without having to address the popular call for Dark Judges as the 'natural' sequel fodder.

Oh, that and putting another dent in the current comic-to-movie sausage fest!

(apologies if these opinion are already over-familiar to some)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 23 September, 2013, 03:56:29 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 22 September, 2013, 08:51:28 PM


well there new camera set in iPhone 5s camera - it's called Slo-Mo...
Wouldn't that make a great app, put in some rough sparkly after effect filters and turn up the colours! Throw in some of the slo-mo music on top of it!  :)
I like it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 24 September, 2013, 05:24:49 PM
Coolbit of Dredd film cosplay thats just been posted on FB,dunno if you lot have already seen it but I'll post anyway.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.642229155810527.1073741849.342969449069834&type=1

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 24 September, 2013, 05:25:58 PM
Can't remember changing my name,must have been drunk. :o


Again.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 September, 2013, 06:02:43 PM
Those are from D-Con and thank Drokk they didn't include the kissing one ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 September, 2013, 06:05:48 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 September, 2013, 06:02:43 PM
Those are from D-Con and thank Drokk they didn't include the kissing one ::)

I'm sure Lex was often paid with more than just creds.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bolt-01 on 29 September, 2013, 11:39:33 PM
I know this ain't the right thread, but on bbc4 the programme just finished about film music. It included a nice chat with Clint Mansell, who was wearing a drokk t-shirt. Still a squaxx? Hope so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 30 September, 2013, 01:32:10 PM
SFX Magazine have just issued a Super-hero special, which prints the results of their readers top 50 super-hero movies of all time poll, and who's that sitting pretty at the top spot?
Yep, Dredd!   :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 30 September, 2013, 01:55:30 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 30 September, 2013, 01:32:10 PM
SFX Magazine have just issued a Super-hero special, which prints the results of their readers top 50 super-hero movies of all time poll, and who's that sitting pretty at the top spot?
Yep, Dredd!   :)
Although its a debatable poll to be placed in, it is still a wonderful occation. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 September, 2013, 03:51:14 PM

Just back from week break with gf, so any news?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Arkwright99 on 30 September, 2013, 04:29:55 PM
I finally caught up with Dredd thanks to my recent #DayofAction Bluray purchase. First thing to say is I thought the 2D version presentation of the BR was fine (I had visions of horrible compression artefacts but they weren't there); the second thing is once the film moved to Peach Trees proper I loved it.

Initially I felt the modern-day Jo'berg scenes weren't really the MC1 I'd known and loved since Prog 2 and they did feel a little 'cheap' - the vista of MC1 in the Stallone film was one of the things I thought they got right - even allowing for a 'this is MC1 in its early days' spin, but once the action moved indoors it was possible to forget/forgive that. Given Dredd's antecedents it was nice to hear Karl Urban channelling Clint Eastwood in his speech patterns and Olivia Thirlby was very good as Anderson. Making her [spoiler]a mutant[/spoiler] was an interesting 'twist' to the original (unless [spoiler]Psis are designated as mutants in 2000AD these days?[/spoiler]). Also interesting that they went with the CJ they did rather than any of the established comic ones.

Plotwise the film had a good strong narrative and didn't feel padded (which is more than I can say for The Raid!*). I thought the costumes were great, particularly the judges' uniforms - with one proviso - and it goes without saying that the visual FX were excellent, although I probably didn't need to see [spoiler]Ma-Ma's face open up like it did[/spoiler]. My only real gripe about the uniforms - and I've had this since I saw the first on-set photos - is I still think  the Judges' helmets sit too high on the actors' heads; I'm just not a big fan of how much their noses are exposed (really the glass 'visor' should come lower down, in line with the comics (http://forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/2000AD-1803-7-540x114.jpg) imo). But that's a very tiny gripe in an otherwise great film that was just as good second time around.  :D

I may have missed the film at the cinema but on the basis of Dredd I'd love to see a sequel get made.

*I'm going to mention The Raid only because I did watch it after seeing Dredd (didn't want to spoil my enjoyment of seeing Old Stone Face by watching it first!). I know there are similarities - having an illicit drug den in both films doesn't help - but I do feel you might as well say The Raid 'rips off' The Rock with its crack team of SEALs/SWATs being wiped out in a turkey shoot as quibble about any lack of originality in Dredd's plot. The other thing to say is, The Raid genuinely bored me with its constant team bickering and the interminable - and unbelievable - chop-socky fight scenes. I'm not sure how much punishment the human body can really take but, sorry, if you smash someone's face into a concrete floor (hard) a couple of times they're going to have a pulped nose at the very least if not a few teeth missing. The Raid may have got out first - much as Robocop did - but it wasn't nearly as enjoyable - or as much fun - as Dredd was.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 30 September, 2013, 04:42:18 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 30 September, 2013, 01:32:10 PM
SFX Magazine have just issued a Super-hero special, which prints the results of their readers top 50 super-hero movies of all time poll, and who's that sitting pretty at the top spot?
Yep, Dredd!   :)

I went into Smiths to grab this, but no sign of it anywhere!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 September, 2013, 10:48:06 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 30 September, 2013, 01:32:10 PM
SFX Magazine have just issued a Super-hero special, which prints the results of their readers top 50 super-hero movies of all time poll, and who's that sitting pretty at the top spot?
Yep, Dredd!   :)

Read that today on train, agree with it! Good on you, SFX! Make many readers get more Blu-Ray of it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 30 September, 2013, 10:55:34 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 30 September, 2013, 04:42:18 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 30 September, 2013, 01:32:10 PM
SFX Magazine have just issued a Super-hero special, which prints the results of their readers top 50 super-hero movies of all time poll, and who's that sitting pretty at the top spot?
Yep, Dredd!   :)

I went into Smiths to grab this, but no sign of it anywhere!


I saw it in Sainsbury's.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 01 October, 2013, 06:51:10 PM
No Sequel News yet? All this fab backing for a sequel on FB and by Rebellion and magazines like SFX surely has had major effect.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 October, 2013, 10:00:37 PM
I wouldn't expect an immediate effect - or a statement of intent one way or the other. It's still a huge ask to get a sequel under way after the theatrical take, and DNA have the rights for another four years.

Things move slowly (if they move at all)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 03 October, 2013, 01:19:27 AM
Thanks for the update Steve. Let's setup camp and wait with baited breath.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 03 October, 2013, 11:04:42 PM
Not been on for a while, busy with work ( setting up my own company, BLOODY NIGHTMARE !! ) just looked in hoping for a ray of sunshine in the form of some possible sequel news but alas no  :( . At least its still selling well and getting the recognition it jolly well deserves  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 October, 2013, 10:36:19 AM

DREDD has passed 1 million ratings on Netflix (United States)!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 07 October, 2013, 06:48:28 PM
Great news, does anyone know realistically what it would take to get a sequel green lit. It seems that it would be a dead cert at the box office with all the love and support this film has now gained yet no official word from those concerned, also any news on the proposed short ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 07 October, 2013, 09:45:15 PM
I don't think the bean counters look at "love and support".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 October, 2013, 10:13:25 PM
I'm sure only those involved know what it would take, and they haven't said one way or the other.

The proposed short is due 2014, I don't think there's any other information apart from that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 07 October, 2013, 10:56:56 PM
Cheers Steve at least there is that to look forward too.  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 08 October, 2013, 03:25:19 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 07 October, 2013, 09:45:15 PM
I don't think the bean counters look at "love and support".
No but they do take it into account when it comes to weather a film will be profitable or not. If theres lots of demand for one, people willing rlto pay to see a sequel, then its less of a gamble and more of a "how much" will this benoffit them?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 October, 2013, 07:04:19 PM
Yes, but...

The whole sequel stuff, as much as it has helped raise profile and shifted copies, seems to be in a similar vein to the buzz that it got at SDCC before failing to do the business at the box office.

If you've got people saying "I bought multiple copies", it's not really breaking through into the mainstream, just fans who are going above and beyond in the hope it will make a sequel more likely.

So, sure there's likely more demand - certainly from a vocal and passionate group, but I can't say that it's enough to convince anyone to stump up the money for a sequel of equal budget, let alone a more expensive one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 08 October, 2013, 07:31:44 PM
It's Firefly/Serenity all over again.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 09 October, 2013, 12:13:41 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 08 October, 2013, 07:31:44 PM
It's Firefly/Serenity all over again.

Let's hope so, 'cos then maybe Dredd'll get a TV series too!!
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 09 October, 2013, 08:17:12 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 08 October, 2013, 07:31:44 PM
It's Firefly/Serenity all over again.
Hasn't the Dredd campaign left the Firefly campaign behind in a cloud if dust and pebbles though?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 09 October, 2013, 10:57:53 AM
I don't know if you can compare the two.

The Firefly/Serenity campaign occurred before FB/Twitter.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 09 October, 2013, 11:05:00 AM
OK, so take this with an industrial quantity of salt, but I was just doing a bit of idle Googling, and came upon this forum, where someone put together a poll about whether there is any interest in a possible DREDD steelbook/special edition.

A poster later on in the thread, dated two days ago, claims to have some very 'promising' news on the matter and seems very excited about it....

Now, Dredd's UK distributor, Entertainment in Video, are notoriously cheap when it comes to their releases (just look at the crummy artwork and copy on the Dredd BD) - and they've never released a steelbook before now. However, they have shown on occasion that they can pull their finger out with stuff like the high quality Lord of the Rings Extended Blu Rays and DVDs, so there's that. Also, Dredd has presumably been a very big seller for them (it's fair to say that it exceeded sales expectations in the UK at the very least, where it was one of the bestselling Blu Rays of the year), and with all the attention with the campaign etc, some kind of special edition re-release would seem like a no-brainer...

A nice special edition - ideally with some more extras (I believe there is a thread elsewhere where we discussed what could be on the disc) - would be the next best thing to a sequel I suppose. My preference would be a limited edition steelbook with Jock's Mondo poster as the cover and a mini graphic novel collecting 'Top of the World, Ma Ma' and perhaps 'Underbelly' and some extra bonus features (including the ones that weren't on the UK disc).

http://www.hidefninja.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39402&page=2 (http://www.hidefninja.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39402&page=2)
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 09 October, 2013, 11:22:57 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 09 October, 2013, 12:13:41 AMLet's hope so, 'cos then maybe Dredd'll get a TV series too!!
I... doubt that.

Quote from: James Stacey on 09 October, 2013, 08:17:12 AMHasn't the Dredd campaign left the Firefly campaign behind in a cloud if dust and pebbles though?
Hardly. Firefly has been boosted up the Amazon charts a whole bunch of times now, and on various formats. 'Browncoats' around the world continue to fly the flag, years after the theatrical release. They also had a big fan-made film akin to Minty. Importantly, though, the love for Firefly/Serenity wasn't and isn't so localised, and was and is big in the USA. Dredd still remains a largely British thing with more of a cult US following.

My comparison though was more that I can see similar things happening with Dredd: more reissues; special editions; a lot of love from those involved and that pang of regret they never got to do anything further; and no continuation of the universe except in a much cheaper medium, such as comics. (On the plus side, although I wasn't entirely convinced by the first episode of the movie-universe Dredd in the Megazine—Dredd himself seemed a bit too talkative at times—it's already a lot better than the sheer bilge that was puked out on Dark Horse for Firefly. In particular, the Book stuff was dire.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 09 October, 2013, 06:55:06 PM
Quote from: radiator on 09 October, 2013, 11:05:00 AM
OK, so take this with an industrial quantity of salt, but I was just doing a bit of idle Googling, and came upon this forum, where someone put together a poll about whether there is any interest in a possible DREDD steelbook/special edition.

A poster later on in the thread, dated two days ago, claims to have some very 'promising' news on the matter and seems very excited about it....

Now, Dredd's UK distributor, Entertainment in Video, are notoriously cheap when it comes to their releases (just look at the crummy artwork and copy on the Dredd BD) - and they've never released a steelbook before now. However, they have shown on occasion that they can pull their finger out with stuff like the high quality Lord of the Rings Extended Blu Rays and DVDs, so there's that. Also, Dredd has presumably been a very big seller for them (it's fair to say that it exceeded sales expectations in the UK at the very least, where it was one of the bestselling Blu Rays of the year), and with all the attention with the campaign etc, some kind of special edition re-release would seem like a no-brainer...

A nice special edition - ideally with some more extras (I believe there is a thread elsewhere where we discussed what could be on the disc) - would be the next best thing to a sequel I suppose. My preference would be a limited edition steelbook with Jock's Mondo poster as the cover and a mini graphic novel collecting 'Top of the World, Ma Ma' and perhaps 'Underbelly' and some extra bonus features (including the ones that weren't on the UK disc).

http://www.hidefninja.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39402&page=2 (http://www.hidefninja.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39402&page=2)


That was me!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 10 October, 2013, 01:21:06 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 09 October, 2013, 06:55:06 PM
That was me!  ;)

This thread has gone back to eating itself :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 October, 2013, 01:48:21 PM
QuoteThat was me!

Oh. So do you actually know anything, or is it just some vague reference to the 'sequel' campaign?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Recrewt on 10 October, 2013, 01:53:30 PM
Hmmm, its tricky isn't it?  Dredd seems to do well in the UK but not in the US.  If I was a money-man looking at this I would see two movies have been made for this character and neither have set the box-office on fire.  The recent healthy DVD/Blu-Ray sales are promising but surely this just means we will end up with more steelbooks/special editions to wring the money out of that.  Or, they will just think - keep the budget low and make a straight to video type movie.

Time will tell, but you have to wonder why any company would want to stump up a lot of cash for something which appears to be such a risky project.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 October, 2013, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 October, 2013, 01:48:21 PM
QuoteThat was me!

Oh. So do you actually know anything, or is it just some vague reference to the 'sequel' campaign?

I hate to be cryptic, but being generally pessimistic of nature I didn't want to go into too much detail in fear of jinxing anything.

I will elaborate though.

As a member of the site Hi-Def Ninja, I have been watching any news on a Dredd a Steelbook release, as I believed it was a film worthy of such premium treatment.

Tired of waiting I ran a poll (see link, you should all sign up and vote too) and coincidently Emailed a UK company that specialises in sexy Steelbook editions of movies.

I was most surprised to receive a very prompt reply, explaining that Dredd was indeed on their roster for future Steelbook treatment.

The optimistic, fan boy part of me went "Fucking A!" But the more measured, pessimistic part of me went "I'll believe it when it's grasped in my filthy mitts!"

So that's about it really. No definitive release date or specs, but I doubt any future release will be "special" or contain any new extras, as remastering would just be to cost prohibitive.
The best we can expect is the current Blu-ray version of Dredd in a very sexy tin, hopefully using Jock's very, very sexy Mondo poster at as it's basis.

And that will be good enough for me, to be honest!   :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 October, 2013, 02:09:49 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 10 October, 2013, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 October, 2013, 01:48:21 PM
QuoteThat was me!

Oh. So do you actually know anything, or is it just some vague reference to the 'sequel' campaign?

I hate to be cryptic, but being generally pessimistic of nature I didn't want to go into too much detail in fear of jinxing anything.

I will elaborate though.

As a member of the site Hi-Def Ninja, I have been watching any news on a Dredd a Steelbook release, as I believed it was a film worthy of such premium treatment.

Tired of waiting I ran a poll (see link, you should all sign up and vote too) and coincidently Emailed a UK company that specialises in sexy Steelbook editions of movies.

I was most surprised to receive a very prompt reply, explaining that Dredd was indeed on their roster for future Steelbook treatment.

The optimistic, fan boy part of me went "Fucking A!" But the more measured, pessimistic part of me went "I'll believe it when it's grasped in my filthy mitts!"

So that's about it really. No definitive release date or specs, but I doubt any future release will be "special" or contain any new extras, as remastering would just be to cost prohibitive.
The best we can expect is the current Blu-ray version of Dredd in a very sexy tin, hopefully using Jock's very, very sexy Mondo poster at as it's basis.

And that will be good enough for me, to be honest!   :D

Cool, thanks for elaborating.

How gutted are you going to be when you realise they're actually talking about the 1995 Dredd movie?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 October, 2013, 02:10:53 PM
Also: very relieved now that I didn't spend £50+ on that Japanese edition...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 October, 2013, 02:14:40 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 October, 2013, 02:09:49 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 10 October, 2013, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 October, 2013, 01:48:21 PM
QuoteThat was me!

Oh. So do you actually know anything, or is it just some vague reference to the 'sequel' campaign?

I hate to be cryptic, but being generally pessimistic of nature I didn't want to go into too much detail in fear of jinxing anything.

I will elaborate though.

As a member of the site Hi-Def Ninja, I have been watching any news on a Dredd a Steelbook release, as I believed it was a film worthy of such premium treatment.

Tired of waiting I ran a poll (see link, you should all sign up and vote too) and coincidently Emailed a UK company that specialises in sexy Steelbook editions of movies.

I was most surprised to receive a very prompt reply, explaining that Dredd was indeed on their roster for future Steelbook treatment.

The optimistic, fan boy part of me went "Fucking A!" But the more measured, pessimistic part of me went "I'll believe it when it's grasped in my filthy mitts!"

So that's about it really. No definitive release date or specs, but I doubt any future release will be "special" or contain any new extras, as remastering would just be to cost prohibitive.
The best we can expect is the current Blu-ray version of Dredd in a very sexy tin, hopefully using Jock's very, very sexy Mondo poster at as it's basis.

And that will be good enough for me, to be honest!   :D

Cool, thanks for elaborating.

How gutted are you going to be when you realise they're actually talking about the 1995 Dredd movie?

Honestly?

I'd be fucking gutted!  :lol:

But I'd probably buy it anyway!  :o

Don't discount the Japanese Steelbook though.

It's a lovely looking thing and got the best Audio and PQ released so far-if that's your bag! 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Recrewt on 10 October, 2013, 02:17:23 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 October, 2013, 02:09:49 PM
Cool, thanks for elaborating.

How gutted are you going to be when you realise they're actually talking about the 1995 Dredd movie?

HaHa!  Yeah, a new steelbook with the image of Dredd kissing Hershey from the end of the movie on the front.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 October, 2013, 02:20:13 PM
Quote from: Recrewt on 10 October, 2013, 02:17:23 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 October, 2013, 02:09:49 PM
Cool, thanks for elaborating.

How gutted are you going to be when you realise they're actually talking about the 1995 Dredd movie?

HaHa!  Yeah, a new steelbook with the image of Dredd kissing Hershey from the end of the movie on the front.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

They could sell it as a romantic comedy! I mean it's got Rob Schneider in it!!!!   :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 October, 2013, 02:57:00 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 10 October, 2013, 02:14:40 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 October, 2013, 02:09:49 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 10 October, 2013, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 October, 2013, 01:48:21 PM
QuoteThat was me!

Oh. So do you actually know anything, or is it just some vague reference to the 'sequel' campaign?

I hate to be cryptic, but being generally pessimistic of nature I didn't want to go into too much detail in fear of jinxing anything.

I will elaborate though.

As a member of the site Hi-Def Ninja, I have been watching any news on a Dredd a Steelbook release, as I believed it was a film worthy of such premium treatment.

Tired of waiting I ran a poll (see link, you should all sign up and vote too) and coincidently Emailed a UK company that specialises in sexy Steelbook editions of movies.

I was most surprised to receive a very prompt reply, explaining that Dredd was indeed on their roster for future Steelbook treatment.

The optimistic, fan boy part of me went "Fucking A!" But the more measured, pessimistic part of me went "I'll believe it when it's grasped in my filthy mitts!"

So that's about it really. No definitive release date or specs, but I doubt any future release will be "special" or contain any new extras, as remastering would just be to cost prohibitive.
The best we can expect is the current Blu-ray version of Dredd in a very sexy tin, hopefully using Jock's very, very sexy Mondo poster at as it's basis.

And that will be good enough for me, to be honest!   :D

Cool, thanks for elaborating.

How gutted are you going to be when you realise they're actually talking about the 1995 Dredd movie?

Honestly?

I'd be fucking gutted!  :lol:

But I'd probably buy it anyway!  :o

Don't discount the Japanese Steelbook though.

It's a lovely looking thing and got the best Audio and PQ released so far-if that's your bag!

I have the French edition already which is supposedly as good, and it has 3d which the J version doesn't.

Still, great news about the Steelbook if it happens - really hope they take some care with the artwork - Jock's Mondo poster seems the logical choice - and no fucking Alex Zane quotes! Shame there likely won't be extra extras, but hopefully they'll at least bung in the stuff that was on the US disc and not the UK.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 October, 2013, 04:34:50 PM
Something to look forward to!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 October, 2013, 04:35:25 PM
Yeah the French Metalpak is very nice!

Good value too-it's just a bitch to fit on the shelf with all the other films!   :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 October, 2013, 04:36:03 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 October, 2013, 04:34:50 PM
Something to look forward to!

Deffo!   :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 12 October, 2013, 03:17:19 PM
Just seen dweezil2's post about the possibility of a steelbook coming out at some point in the future.
Brilliant news if that does indeed pan out.
With is rather apt, as ive just got back from a visit to my local HMV - and i couldnt help but notice that much older, and smaller titles were receiving a recent steelbook treatment.
And i saw Dredd being offered as part of their '3 for £20' Blu-Ray deal, for the very first time. So, just over a year since release, its now being priced this way.
That must be some kind of record, as usually DVD/Blu-Ray's seem to be reduced not that long after release, nowadays.

And slightly off topic, whilst checking out steelbooks on e-Bay, i came across this (German) beauty.
Drool...

(http://i.imgur.com/O6pytKh.jpg)

Steelbooks are, i suppose, a bit of a indulgence, especially if you have the previous release. But man alive, they are summat special to look at, arent they.

I wonder if a steelbook edition for Dredd would include a new updated disc - better extra's maybe, or the 2D and the 3D versions on seperate disc's? I suspect itll be the same disc as the previous release, as that seems to be the usual way these things go?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 October, 2013, 03:20:08 PM
Who knows, they might be collecting loads of stuff at this very moment, to fill a Special Brit ;) Steelbook Edition of the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 October, 2013, 03:52:17 PM
Unless they're including extras, beyond what are available in other regions, I'm not fussed.

It's just a cosmetic difference.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 October, 2013, 03:57:04 PM

Included art cards by Jock.

And as I said it again, trivia track would be really nice!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 October, 2013, 04:05:18 PM
Goaty, didn't you get your personalised art cards by Jock in your Japanese Steelbook! I was well impressed with mine :thumbsup:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/254055_2155060760417_2811187_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/254055_2155060800418_6747001_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/251029_2155063000473_1368058_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 October, 2013, 04:10:43 PM

Damn, John, that's great!

I only got this from little artist;

(http://i.imgur.com/7VbQNXx.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 October, 2013, 04:11:41 PM
Helmets too small :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 14 October, 2013, 04:14:23 PM
found this on vimeo from 1 year ago posted Australian actress done nothing   ... ?
http://vimeo.com/41476211
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 October, 2013, 02:58:17 PM

Haha!

(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1377443_353289971474140_1865758781_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 October, 2013, 05:43:15 PM
Limited edition vinyl pressing of the soundtrack, available November the 4th.

http://www.musiconvinyl.com/releases/Original_Soundtrack/Dredd (http://www.musiconvinyl.com/releases/Original_Soundtrack/Dredd)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 16 October, 2013, 06:25:22 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 16 October, 2013, 05:43:15 PM
Limited edition vinyl pressing of the soundtrack, available November the 4th.

http://www.musiconvinyl.com/releases/Original_Soundtrack/Dredd (http://www.musiconvinyl.com/releases/Original_Soundtrack/Dredd)

Nice find Steve!   :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 October, 2013, 06:26:37 PM
Anyone have an idea of the price of this yet!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 October, 2013, 06:53:17 PM

Congrats John on pass 10000 post!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 October, 2013, 06:59:13 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 October, 2013, 06:26:37 PM
Anyone have an idea of the price of this yet!


33rpm.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Andy_Lee on 16 October, 2013, 09:45:00 PM
This might not be news but it is to me.

I found out this weekend I can play the Dredd blu-Ray on my PC in anaglyph (cyan / red) 3D. I was having a flick through using Power DVD  and I idly pressed the 3D icon. I don't have a 3D screen or active glasses but a rummage for some cardboard specs and I was happily watching a Dredd in retro style red blue 3D

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5463/10255067605_cd479422e3_n.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24992274@N00/10255067605/)
Anaglyph screen grab from Dredd 3D (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24992274@N00/10255067605/) by Andy Lee - ★☆☆☆☆ (http://www.flickr.com/people/24992274@N00/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 17 October, 2013, 10:59:07 PM
Sleeps With Monsters: Dredd, Star Trek Reboots, and Dystopian Roles for Women

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/10/sleeps-with-monsters-dredd-star-trek-reboots-and-dystopian-roles-for-women#more (http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/10/sleeps-with-monsters-dredd-star-trek-reboots-and-dystopian-roles-for-women#more)

Interesting article on Tor.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 October, 2013, 11:05:26 PM
Quote from: von Boom on 17 October, 2013, 10:59:07 PM
Sleeps With Monsters: Dredd, Star Trek Reboots, and Dystopian Roles for Women

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/10/sleeps-with-monsters-dredd-star-trek-reboots-and-dystopian-roles-for-women#more (http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/10/sleeps-with-monsters-dredd-star-trek-reboots-and-dystopian-roles-for-women#more)

Interesting article on Tor.

Great article and she watch Dredd 7 times!

Great true quote; it struck me anew how well-made it is
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Third Estate Ned on 23 October, 2013, 05:15:15 PM
Stumbled across this suggestion for a Dredd film drinking game, which is ostensibly a plug for an American microbrewery.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 23 October, 2013, 06:02:48 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 16 October, 2013, 06:25:22 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 16 October, 2013, 05:43:15 PM
Limited edition vinyl pressing of the soundtrack, available November the 4th.

http://www.musiconvinyl.com/releases/Original_Soundtrack/Dredd (http://www.musiconvinyl.com/releases/Original_Soundtrack/Dredd)

Nice find Steve!   :)




Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 October, 2013, 06:26:37 PM
Anyone have an idea of the price of this yet!


£21.98 a Earth money!    :)


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dredd-Gatefold-Sleeve-Original-Soundtrack/dp/B00F01QU5I/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1382547695&sr=8-3&keywords=dredd+soundtrack
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Third Estate Ned on 23 October, 2013, 06:28:44 PM
Quote from: Third Estate Ned on 23 October, 2013, 05:15:15 PM
Stumbled across this suggestion for a Dredd film drinking game, which is ostensibly a plug for an American microbrewery.

Could have sworn I put the link in  :-[.

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/drunk-justice-dredd-drinking-game-kcarr.php (http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/drunk-justice-dredd-drinking-game-kcarr.php)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 28 October, 2013, 01:49:23 PM
I had the good fortune to be working with Megan Tanner on Saturday, she was head of make-up on Dredd. We talked a lot about the film and her love of the project was obvious, she said all they wanted to do was do right by the fans...

Anyway, Megan has been asked by a few people in SA about sourcing a Dredd replica uniform (film version) and I mistakenly said Planet Replica's do a film uniform...

But it looks like I'm well wrong (sigh...) on that one. I've looked online but it would be a big help if anybody can point out a site that does a solid, definitive, film design. Any suggestions? Thanks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 28 October, 2013, 08:46:59 PM
There isn't one go-to place really - there isn't a licensed version, and once the propstore auction happened it turned into a bit of a free-for-all on people offering their versions of various bits.

There is a guy who was doing leathers and the armour, other guys doing bits and pieces for the belt and props, the helmet, additions to the boots etc, but you'd still have to put it all together yourself, and paint bits of it.

This is the facebook group, but I don't know if they're taking any new orders - they've had problems delivering the armour to satisfactory quality in the past, but your best bet is to ask them.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/DreddCostumeGroup.DragonCon2013/?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/groups/DreddCostumeGroup.DragonCon2013/?fref=ts)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 29 October, 2013, 04:23:42 PM
Thanks Steve. I was surprised I couldn't turn up a source...I think the recent pictures from the US got me thinking there was a site. Anyway, a big help, cheers.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 29 October, 2013, 09:38:27 PM
Nah, it tends to be divided amongst one person selling the helmet (unpainted), someone else painting it, someone else selling the leathers and armour, someone else selling props, additions to gloves/boots, someone else selling holsters etc.

It would be nice if DNA had sorted out an official license, since they (and Rebellion) aren't seeing any direct money from this, but they are getting some benefit of having a visible Dredd presence even if it's unlicensed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 October, 2013, 10:38:09 PM
Yeah, it's great fun. Everyone is waiting on the leathers and body armour now, which is a film story in itself :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 October, 2013, 10:42:10 PM
Hows yours went, John?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 October, 2013, 10:54:02 PM
They're supposed to be here for MEM at the NEC, so we shall see. Kurt who is organising it from America is having lots of fun, not!

If mine is not here I'll do the PR uniform for the whole day, instead of half 'n' half.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 30 October, 2013, 08:09:00 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 29 October, 2013, 09:38:27 PM
It would be nice if DNA had sorted out an official license, since they (and Rebellion) aren't seeing any direct money from this, but they are getting some benefit of having a visible Dredd presence even if it's unlicensed.

...so not exactly off the peg. Too bad.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 30 October, 2013, 01:28:11 PM
Planet Replicas had worked really hard in the run up to the film to secure permission to offer a full costume.

They had sourced the original builders for the entire costume parts - from the leathers that were copied for the production and remade in South Africa, to the helmets and lawgivers. The works.
They were also talking with DNA and IM Global, but nothing was to be confirmed until after the films opening.

After the films run it all went quiet, and no-one could be contacted - and then the Ebay auctions happened.

I know they would love to offer the uniform as made by the original builders, but sadly that boat has probably sailed long ago now there are so many unlicensed copies out there.
;-(


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 30 October, 2013, 06:33:47 PM
That's a crying shame! If they were able to offer a full custom built kit for the same price as the comic one, I'd buy it in a flash.

Well, I'd have to beg my bank manager first, but, you know, after that!! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 05 November, 2013, 05:13:01 PM
I talked someone into buying Dredd today. He said he had been mulling over seeing it so I pitched in and sold a great review.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 05 November, 2013, 06:25:23 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 05 November, 2013, 05:13:01 PM
I talked someone into buying Dredd today. He said he had been mulling over seeing it so I pitched in and sold a great review.

V

:thumbsup: Another happy customer hopefully!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 November, 2013, 08:36:20 PM

Haha! I didn't know that piece! I found it online... Be nice if Dredd the villain in Star Trek (comic style?) Our Karl is the top man!

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d3ade7d4c300c1cf5b73b495a63a314a/tumblr_mqexz0kXAI1synsbqo1_250.gif)(http://24.media.tumblr.com/7281ca4d7bd58795a1e5e89527d8a7b3/tumblr_mqexz0kXAI1synsbqo2_250.gif)
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/fc299541fe0cdefb4e62ce1f04ac0f50/tumblr_mqexz0kXAI1synsbqo3_250.gif)(http://31.media.tumblr.com/4a3bf8f4bb74aa139975e3d4c1bb13d7/tumblr_mqexz0kXAI1synsbqo4_250.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 November, 2013, 04:53:34 PM


Looks like Almost Human is a sneaky adaptation of DREDD: Underbelly.




(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1441285_616373821737416_477986007_n.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img202/7203/chf1.png)



(http://imageshack.us/a/img191/7240/jo32.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 November, 2013, 04:56:12 PM

Interesting!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 November, 2013, 11:15:18 PM



DREDD (with puppets) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQmnm9V547g&t=2m0s)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 28 November, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
Heh. Impressive.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 November, 2013, 11:30:45 PM

Brilliant!
Like this moment, got Dredd's chin!

(http://i.imgur.com/oTCemw5.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 28 November, 2013, 11:40:16 PM
Great stuff!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 28 November, 2013, 11:51:23 PM
Admirable.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 29 November, 2013, 11:31:22 AM
I'm hoping Adi Shankar is going to do his short in that style.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 29 November, 2013, 11:34:07 AM
A story in the prog featuring the Justice Department version of Sesame Street for the Pals' Club?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Andy_Lee on 30 November, 2013, 11:46:57 AM
The Dredd exhibition at the 20-21 in Scunthorpe closed on Saturday with a showing of Dredd.

I can't post to the article on their Facebook page but here's a general link, you'll have to scroll down a page or two.

www.facebook.com/2021VAC

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 02 December, 2013, 06:26:27 PM
Wasn't Adi on Twitter recently talking Dredd?

I hear he's lurking on our 2000ad forum so be nice.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 02 December, 2013, 06:52:53 PM
He was indeed according to the 'Make A Dredd Sequel' Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/MakeADreddSequel

And Mr Shankar, if you are reading, we would dearly love a sequel!

Thank you!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 December, 2013, 07:03:32 PM
Best share that tweet about on some pages then ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 02 December, 2013, 07:20:53 PM
Inspired by her visit to Thought Bubble, my friend asked to borrow my Dredd DVD - her verdict "Pretty good. Bit heavy on the shooting though"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 December, 2013, 07:26:13 PM
Brilliant, that should've been on the movie poster :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 02 December, 2013, 07:35:02 PM
I will have to revive my twitter account and drop some likes in on Adi's thread. Judge Burdis your as organised as ever getting this info' out to the forum :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Andy_Lee on 02 December, 2013, 11:02:24 PM
Quote from: AndyLee on 30 November, 2013, 11:46:57 AM
The Dredd exhibition at the 20-21 in Scunthorpe closed on Saturday with a showing of Dredd.



Argh, damn you auto correct. Should have read CLOSES

The Dredd exhibition at the 20-21 in Scunthorpe closes on Saturday 7th with a showing of Dredd. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 07 December, 2013, 12:45:07 PM
I have tweeted Adi a few times and he always replies, top bloke  :). Sequel needed NOW please Adi .
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 December, 2013, 09:20:45 PM
DREDD 2 would be a lovely christmas present.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 December, 2013, 09:24:02 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 December, 2013, 09:20:45 PM
DREDD 2 would be a lovely christmas present.

Ditto!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Andy_Lee on 11 December, 2013, 11:13:13 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 December, 2013, 09:20:45 PM
DREDD 2 would be a lovely christmas present.

I think you are more likely to see Santa. There was a screening of Dredd at our local arts centre to finish up the  Dredd art exhibition. Three people turned up. Me and fellow boarder DrEdgeWild and his girlfriend. If £2 and free popcorn can't get bums on seats I don't know what will.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 December, 2013, 11:56:10 PM


Quote from: AndyLee on 11 December, 2013, 11:13:13 PMThere was a screening of Dredd at our local arts centre to finish up the  Dredd art exhibition. Three people turned up.
If £2 and free popcorn can't get bums on seats I don't know what will.

After almost a year on bluray/DVD most people who want to see it likely all ready own a copy. What's the draw to see it on the big screen at this stage unless it's a really great screen with 3D etc.?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 December, 2013, 03:01:55 AM
There was a full house at the Lakes convention to watch both Minty and Dredd. Location, location, location, plus having John and Carlos introduce the films helped  ;)

My good lady informed me that one of her work colleagues watched Dredd on Netflix the other day and couldn't stop singing its praises. Oh promotional machine, why, why, why!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 December, 2013, 10:06:22 AM
Yeah, I wouldn't go too much on that - it's already played several times at the Prince Charles cinema in Leicester Square - an indication that it's at least already something of a modern cult classic.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 12 December, 2013, 10:35:49 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 December, 2013, 03:01:55 AMOh promotional machine, why, why, why!
In hindsight, it's like they wanted to distance Dredd from normal action fare, showing it had some depth. The thing is, the action-packed Japanese trailer was more of a draw, and the UK/US one essentially gave away the entire plot. A pity. Still, we got a great film out of it that finally laid the Stallone ghost to rest, and that's more than I thought I'd ever see.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Theblazeuk on 12 December, 2013, 10:58:18 AM
Quote from: AndyLee on 11 December, 2013, 11:13:13 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 December, 2013, 09:20:45 PM
DREDD 2 would be a lovely christmas present.

I think you are more likely to see Santa. There was a screening of Dredd at our local arts centre to finish up the  Dredd art exhibition. Three people turned up. Me and fellow boarder DrEdgeWild and his girlfriend. If £2 and free popcorn can't get bums on seats I don't know what will.

Where is this and where is the Dredd art exhibition?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 December, 2013, 11:00:07 AM
Quote from: radiator on 12 December, 2013, 10:06:22 AM
Yeah, I wouldn't go too much on that - it's already played several times at the Prince Charles cinema in Leicester Square - an indication that it's at least already something of a modern cult classic.

Yeah, I caught it at the PC a couple of times and it was still fantastic-nice print too!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Theblazeuk on 12 December, 2013, 11:05:19 AM
I see now it was in Plymouth.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 December, 2013, 11:13:52 AM
Perhaps DREDD will always be a cult character and a cult Movie unable to cross over to the mainstream. Ah, to see Judge Death on screen! Not going to happen for the moment anyway.

Most Blockbusters these days seem to be aimed at the tweeny market, 12/12A. I don't see anyone risking millions on a 12 A version of Judge Dredd but RoboCop, an 18 certificate Film in my day has been re done so you never know.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 December, 2013, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 December, 2013, 11:13:52 AM
I don't see anyone risking millions on a 12 A version of Judge Dredd but RoboCop, an 18 certificate Film in my day has been re done so you never know.

Yes, as a 12A!   :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 December, 2013, 11:33:46 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 12 December, 2013, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 December, 2013, 11:13:52 AM
I don't see anyone risking millions on a 12 A version of Judge Dredd but RoboCop, an 18 certificate Film in my day has been re done so you never know.
Yes, as a 12A!   :o

Yeah I heard the Brazilian Director had a pretty hard time on making it with any idea he had squashed by the Producers. Satire targeting Capitalism is something Hollywood Bigwigs are most unlikely to encourage.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 12 December, 2013, 11:50:11 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 December, 2013, 11:33:46 AM
Yeah I heard the Brazilian Director had a pretty hard time on making it with any idea he had squashed by the Producers. Satire targeting Capitalism is something Hollywood Bigwigs are most unlikely to encourage.

Sorry, but that's utter nonsense. Popular culture is awash with stuff critiquing modern capitalism - all those blockbuster movies about the little guy against evil corporations or government conspiracies. This stuff is popular because it taps into something people want to see, and so Hollywood is more than happy to provide those stories since it can make a lot of money off them.

However, action movies + satire seem to be box office poison. Mainstream audiences just don't seem to want that element mixed into what they're expecting - see the box office fate of Paul Verhoeven's Starship Troopers for details. (Or, even further back, The Last Action Hero.) That's why it's probably going to be missing from the Robocop remake.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 December, 2013, 12:59:27 PM
We get our Justice from Fiction now a days since reality always proves disappointing in that respect! ;) The ease with which the banking class escaped any censor for their mismanagement should tell you that.

You'd  think the world of Judge Dredd would be a gold mine for Hollywood scribes but maybe it's a case of information overload.

Where do you start? With DREDD /RICO growing up; one becoming a fearless Law enforcer the other corrupt and a crook. The Robot War, the Dark Judges?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Recrewt on 12 December, 2013, 01:40:54 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 December, 2013, 11:13:52 AM
Perhaps DREDD will always be a cult character and a cult Movie unable to cross over to the mainstream. Ah, to see Judge Death on screen! Not going to happen for the moment anyway.

Most Blockbusters these days seem to be aimed at the tweeny market, 12/12A. I don't see anyone risking millions on a 12 A version of Judge Dredd but RoboCop, an 18 certificate Film in my day has been re done so you never know.

I know I am straying into armchair director mode here but my take on it was that the recent Dredd movie had poor marketing and did not have enough wow-factor to get bums on seats.  Going to the cinema is not cheap so people pick those movies which look like they will deliver impressive visuals otherwise it becomes a "I'll wait for the DVD" movie.  The trailers for Dredd failed to inspire and in hindsight it was probably a bad idea to call the movie Dredd - that just created an instant link in people's minds with the Stallone movie. 

I also think that what makes a good Dredd strip does not make a good movie.  Something like Judgement Day, which many Dredd fans are not too keen on, could do better.  With a big fat budget to do it, how well would the movie do with a trailer showing the Big Meg, hoardes of zombies trying to get into the city, a couple of action clips and then MC2 getting nuked?  Many of us might not like it but I suspect it would get more folks to the cinema.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 12 December, 2013, 01:50:20 PM
Quote from: Recrewt on 12 December, 2013, 01:40:54 PM
it was probably a bad idea to call the movie Dredd

What, pray tell, do you think it should have been called?

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Theblazeuk on 12 December, 2013, 01:50:41 PM
Marketing + 3D pricing + a limited release. However marketing was really, truly terribly done. Trailers were good but didn't play anywhere.

I don't understand why anyone thinks that forcing a movie title to actually have 3D in its proper title is a good idea. It's terrible. I went to see Dredd, in 3D.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Recrewt on 12 December, 2013, 02:16:01 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 12 December, 2013, 01:50:20 PM
Quote from: Recrewt on 12 December, 2013, 01:40:54 PM
it was probably a bad idea to call the movie Dredd

What, pray tell, do you think it should have been called?

Cheers

Jim

Something more emotive like 'The Raid', 'The Killing Zone' or even 'Mega City Justice'.  From comments I have seen around the internet and such it doesn't seem like 'Dredd' has particularly inspired or helped as a movie name.  How often have we seen comments like 'I thought it was a sequel/remake of the Stallone movie'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 12 December, 2013, 02:29:31 PM
Random Member of Public #1 : "Have you seen that new trailer for 'Mega City Killing Raiders of Justice Zone' yet?"

Random Member of Public #2 : "No. What's that about?"

Random Member of Public #1 : "Judge Dredd."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Recrewt on 12 December, 2013, 03:07:55 PM
Ha!

Unless these random people are 2000AD readers then Random Member of Public #2 is most likely to reply "Who?"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 12 December, 2013, 04:21:11 PM
Or...

That title's a bit of a mouthful. Why didn't they just call it Dredd?  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 December, 2013, 04:29:25 PM
Or generic Marvel film #1000!   ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 December, 2013, 07:44:12 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 December, 2013, 11:33:46 AMYeah I heard the Brazilian Director had a pretty hard time on making it with any idea he had squashed by the Producers. Satire targeting Capitalism is something Hollywood Bigwigs are most unlikely to encourage.

No one in Hollywood gives a hoot about what a film's subject matter is as long as it attracts an audience and makes money doing so; if they could get away with it they'd be producing big-screen porn versions of the Communist Manifesto.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 December, 2013, 08:39:36 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 December, 2013, 07:44:12 PM
No one in Hollywood gives a hoot about what a film's subject matter is as long as it attracts an audience and makes money doing so; if they could get away with it they'd be producing big-screen porn versions of the Communist Manifesto.

'Screwing for Socialism!- part 103.'

I remember  there was some rumours of discord in the DREDD editing suite with Peter Travis apparently locked out at one point though this was denied and a statement disclaiming this put out. Does seem a bit rough that you hire a Director to shoot the piece and then effectively the Producers decide what's to be filmed. Why bother hiring a Director in the first place?

Didn't Ridley Scott get booted off Bladerunner?. The producer of Bladerunner apparently wanted to shoot the BR script and grew increasingly unhappy with Ridley Scott. After some disagreements Ridley got his marching orders.

I heard that some Producers deliberately hire Directors with the intention of sacking them half way through the Picture. If the Films good they get slung off it but if it's bad they keep them on ensuring the Director takes the rap for the Movie's poor performance. Nasty!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 December, 2013, 09:05:35 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 December, 2013, 08:39:36 PM
I remember  there was some rumours of discord in the DREDD editing suite with Peter Travis apparently locked out at one point though this was denied and a statement disclaiming this put out. Does seem a bit rough that you hire a Director to shoot the piece and then effectively the Producers decide what's to be filmed. Why bother hiring a Director in the first place?

Didn't Ridley Scott get booted off Bladerunner?. The producer of Bladerunner apparently wanted to shoot the BR script and grew increasingly unhappy with Ridley Scott. After some disagreements Ridley got his marching orders.

I heard that some Producers deliberately hire Directors with the intention of sacking them half way through the Picture. If the Films good they get slung off it but if it's bad they keep them on ensuring the Director takes the rap for the Movie's poor performance. Nasty!

Directors can be just as much cogs in the machine as everyone else and the term 'director' has acquired an undue mythic status when the majority of mainstream films can be directed by many capable journeymen who know the craft and trade.

Often it's part of the deal when directors sign-on because in many cases directors are generally hired to direct films that producers have fostered from the ground-up (Bruckheimer films) as their own projects unless the director also happens to be the producer i.e. Kubrick, Spielberg or Christopher Nolan or if the director is has final-cut. The producer generally puts the whole creative package together.

I don't know what happened on Dredd but it seems reasonable to assume that Dredd was a producer/writer led project -not director led- from the start, so many of the creative decisions were made with the involvement of the director and other creatives, but ultimately the buck probably stopped with the producers. Just because a director directs the set-shoot from an agreed script and storyboard doesn't mean they can direct, or have final cut, in the edit. This is generally known from the start.

It's producers and big actors who get big budget-films greenlit before any director. Some directors can be fired for good reason and the producers are right. Many bad films could've been saved if directors had not been indulged.

It's different for small independent films that are personal projects.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 December, 2013, 09:17:21 PM
As I recall I slagged off Peter Travis when he was chosen as Director for DREDD. Well I'm sorry Peter, I was so wrong. You did a magnificent job Sir! If they make DREDD 2 please come back if you're not too busy with another project.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 December, 2013, 09:22:46 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 December, 2013, 09:17:21 PM
As I recall I slagged off Peter Travis when he was chosen as Director for DREDD. Well I'm sorry Peter, I was so wrong. You did a magnificent job Sir! If they make DREDD 2 please come back if you're not too busy with another project.


He all ready said he wouldn't be coming back if there was another though he hoped there would be.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Theblazeuk on 13 December, 2013, 01:04:34 PM
Did Travis have a disagreement with Garland or with the execs? I seem to remember there was sometihng about him being kept out of the editing process.
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 December, 2013, 05:14:29 PM
We don't know, and probably never will.

All we can say for certain is that there were RUMOURS of behind the scenes troubles that were categorically denied by all involved, and all concerned have behaved in a professional, courteous manner publicly since.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 December, 2013, 05:42:42 PM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VdphvuyaV_I
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 December, 2013, 10:56:46 AM
Didn't Duncan Jones of Moon fame indicate some interests in Judge Dredd?

I Think he's working on World of Warcraft for the moment which if it becomes a big hit, LOTR style means he'll properly be tied to that franchise but afterwards, well who knows?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 December, 2013, 11:44:47 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 December, 2013, 10:56:46 AM
Didn't Duncan Jones of Moon fame indicate some interests in Judge Dredd?

He was offered the job to direct it but turned it down because he was unable to use his own ideas.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 December, 2013, 04:07:13 PM
 I'd hoped the DVD sales might boost some interest. Oh forlorn hope....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 December, 2013, 11:29:22 PM



DREDD TYPOGRAPHY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUywm5MCUA8)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Theblazeuk on 17 December, 2013, 10:54:36 AM
Hmm

I may watch Dredd again after that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 17 December, 2013, 11:05:11 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 December, 2013, 11:29:22 PM



DREDD TYPOGRAPHY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUywm5MCUA8)

Awesome!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 December, 2013, 08:11:30 PM
Just watch Great Movie Mistakes on BBC3 tonight at 8pm as nothing on, but stunning to see Dredd features four times on it, well 4 mistakes - but nice publicly for Dredd to new viewers! And one presenter mentions he been seen it four times at cinema!   
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 December, 2013, 08:58:34 PM
Strangely enough I did the titles for that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 December, 2013, 09:26:10 PM
I was fairly surprised to see them re-using the same shot and cropping it. Things must have been tight.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DrJomster on 18 December, 2013, 10:06:54 PM
Thanks for the Dredd Typography link! Very cool.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 December, 2013, 10:08:19 PM
And what were those mistakes Goaty, bet they didn't get the massive one at the start, with the hostage stuff ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 December, 2013, 10:21:28 PM

Well all mistakes was "continuity"  ::) that how low serious BBC3 went! well no one perfect!

It on iplayer, as on iPad if link correct?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/bigscreen/tv/episode/b03mpskb (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/bigscreen/tv/episode/b03mpskb)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 18 December, 2013, 10:47:57 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 December, 2013, 10:08:19 PM
And what were those mistakes

1.) Had the temerity to be a remake of a Stallone classic 2.) Dredd didn't take his helmet off 3.) Ripped off the Raid too much, and 4.) Not enough 2D prints available








;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 December, 2013, 11:09:51 PM
BRILLIANT :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Theblazeuk on 19 December, 2013, 11:10:35 AM
That 'Great movie mistakes' is the most boring, misleadingly titled show on air. I can't believe it keeps coming back.

You go on expecting something as good as Auntie's bloomers or at the very least, showing the stormtroopers hitting their heads or poor CGI/effects or outrageous continuity errors.

Even Digby Chicken Ceasar sounds bored (but I do find him quite boring anyway when he's not being a tramp detective).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 19 December, 2013, 01:19:44 PM
Yeah, no offence but I can't believe that programme is a thing that exists and - apologies for getting all Daily Mail - is funded by license payer's money. It must be popular though as it always seems to be on.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 19 December, 2013, 01:25:40 PM
QuoteAnd one presenter mentions he been seen it four times at cinema!

Think he's making a feeble joke about them re-using the same footage.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 19 December, 2013, 02:15:02 PM
it is a crap show - I saw it thinking it would be diverting eyeball-candy when there was nothing else on but the mistakes they show are SO DEADLY BORING! Ooh look - his bag is in his left hand, now it's in his right!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 19 December, 2013, 02:37:52 PM
It also basically just ruins films - like the opening of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - in which I can't now not notice that as they're speeding along on the train the backdrop keeps switching in each shot from desert to mountains to forest and back again.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HOO-HAA on 19 December, 2013, 03:08:08 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 17 December, 2013, 11:05:11 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 December, 2013, 11:29:22 PM



DREDD TYPOGRAPHY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUywm5MCUA8)

Awesome!!!

Yep, I agree! Very well done!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 19 December, 2013, 04:10:17 PM
Quote from: radiator on 19 December, 2013, 02:37:52 PM
It also basically just ruins films - like the opening of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - in which I can't now not notice that as they're speeding along on the train the backdrop keeps switching in each shot from desert to mountains to forest and back again.

Yeah, that progamme sucks badly.  It's like movie watching for miserable bloody pedants, or Simpsons-style comic book guys. 

Worst. Movie Mistakes. TV Programme. Ever.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 19 December, 2013, 04:25:10 PM
The titles are awesome though...  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 19 December, 2013, 05:48:27 PM
In Target yesterday buying Dredd for a Christmas prezzie swop thingie and the cashier told me they're discontinuing it on DVD and Blu-Ray. They had four more copies and then that's it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 19 December, 2013, 06:04:57 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 19 December, 2013, 05:48:27 PM
In Target yesterday buying Dredd for a Christmas prezzie swop thingie and the cashier told me they're discontinuing it on DVD and Blu-Ray. They had four more copies and then that's it.

:o

Wonder if that means it's due a re-pressing?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 December, 2013, 07:49:12 PM
Quote from: radiator on 19 December, 2013, 04:25:10 PM
The titles are awesome though...  :-[

Haha, they're OK - they liked them anyway.

As for the programme itself, well it is what it is, something to fill a schedule for a digital channel with not the budget of the mainstream ones.

I think something more 'positive' where it's movie trivia, or behind the scenes would be a better bet.

E.g. where they comment on something flipping sides, is usually because the shot is flipped so it reads better - avoiding 'crossing the line', rather than continuity. Something based around people making films rather than just pulling them apart - or at least dissecting it with a purpose.

I doubt it fits BBC Three's remit though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HOO-HAA on 20 December, 2013, 09:24:31 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 19 December, 2013, 06:04:57 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 19 December, 2013, 05:48:27 PM
In Target yesterday buying Dredd for a Christmas prezzie swop thingie and the cashier told me they're discontinuing it on DVD and Blu-Ray. They had four more copies and then that's it.

:o

Wonder if that means it's due a re-pressing?

That would certainly help the case for a sequel.

Anyone know how much the film has made to date, including international DVD sales, vs. its actual budget? Tried a quick search online but no joy...

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 December, 2013, 10:15:03 AM
http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Dredd#tab=summary (http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Dredd#tab=summary)

Doesn't include international HV sales though, and I don't know how recent it is.

Interesting to hear it will be OOP though, not sure what to read into that though - it could be be that they think it's run its course, or that they think it might be worth chancing a collector's edition.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HOO-HAA on 20 December, 2013, 06:48:50 PM
Thanks for that, Steve.

It's heavily reduced on all formats, now. So couldn't see them milking a special edition...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 21 December, 2013, 10:06:39 AM
Yes the cold, hard arithmetic shows there properly won't be a sequel despite valiant efforts all round to make it otherwise. Oh well you can but try.  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 21 December, 2013, 10:13:12 AM
Anchorman got a sequel by fan demand almost a decade after it's initial release. Never say never. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 December, 2013, 11:19:34 AM


Quote from: Hawkmonger on 21 December, 2013, 10:13:12 AM
Anchorman got a sequel by fan demand almost a decade after it's initial release. Never say never. ;)

Fan demand and it made a profit at the box-office.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HOO-HAA on 22 December, 2013, 11:15:33 AM
Riddick's another one, though. Didn't Chronicles bomb at box office? And yet here we are, several years later, with a sequel...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 22 December, 2013, 11:47:58 AM
You people are the antidote required for my natural born pessimism! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 December, 2013, 11:54:27 AM
Quote from: HOO-HAA on 22 December, 2013, 11:15:33 AM
Riddick's another one, though. Didn't Chronicles bomb at box office? And yet here we are, several years later, with a sequel...


Only after Riddick himself negotiated getting and owning the rights back from Universal by trading appearances in Fast & Furious films and then he put his house up as collateral to help fund it himself. Despite Chronicles... failure Pitch Black and the Riddick character all ready had an ok track-record before it and Diesel has an enormous world-wide following (58 million facebook followers) which helped convince Universal to agree to distribute the film for him.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HOO-HAA on 22 December, 2013, 12:41:52 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 22 December, 2013, 11:54:27 AM
Quote from: HOO-HAA on 22 December, 2013, 11:15:33 AM
Riddick's another one, though. Didn't Chronicles bomb at box office? And yet here we are, several years later, with a sequel...


Only after Riddick himself negotiated getting and owning the rights back from Universal by trading appearances in Fast & Furious films and then he put his house up as collateral to help fund it himself. Despite Chronicles... failure Pitch Black and the Riddick character all ready had an ok track-record before it and Diesel has an enormous world-wide following (58 million facebook followers) which helped convince Universal to agree to distribute the film for him.

Wow, I didn't know that. Fair play to him for going to those lengths. He must really believe in that character and franchise. And rightly so: I've thoroughly enjoyed all the Riddicks so far, including the animated stuff.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 December, 2013, 12:15:53 AM

At parents watch Sky Movies, nice to see Dredd on channel Sky Greats - still so great!

Screen grab of it;

(http://i.imgur.com/pfnKLui.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 23 December, 2013, 12:59:46 PM
Read the WARNING before you click the link.

On Reddit today I saw this animated GIF:
http://i.imgur.com/ZMIeXYl.gif

It's some kind of soldier or rebel fighter (possibly Syrian) getting shot while firing his rifle. The thing is, the bullet goes right through his cheek, exactly like the headshot during the drug bust at the start of DREDD. Thought it might be of interest to some of you.

WARNING: It looks JUST LIKE the headshot during the drug bust, but it's real life. Don't click if you want to avoid seeing someone being shot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 25 December, 2013, 04:30:55 AM
Watched Dredd again last night, and once again thoroughly enjoyed it.

One thing that struck me was the sheer number of head shots.  I can't think of any other film that has so many!  Could it be that Dredd holds a world-record for most head shots in a single film? 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cookyman on 25 December, 2013, 08:58:44 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1495354_383160935153710_257501614_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 25 December, 2013, 09:04:29 PM
Dr Who meets Judge Dredd- the christmas special that will never happen. Lovely stuff Cookyman
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 27 December, 2013, 12:34:25 AM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 23 December, 2013, 12:59:46 PM
Read the WARNING before you click the link.

On Reddit today I saw this animated GIF:
http://i.imgur.com/ZMIeXYl.gif

It's some kind of soldier or rebel fighter (possibly Syrian) getting shot while firing his rifle. The thing is, the bullet goes right through his cheek, exactly like the headshot during the drug bust at the start of DREDD. Thought it might be of interest to some of you.

WARNING: It looks JUST LIKE the headshot during the drug bust, but it's real life. Don't click if you want to avoid seeing someone being shot.

Thanks. I haven't been on Liveleak for a while. He's gonna need a dentist for that missing tooth.

The Dredd version had a little more poetry to it, I think.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Colm on 03 January, 2014, 09:07:59 PM
Dredd was mentioned in a Quora post about movies that feature real examples of computer hacking.

See Stephen Willey's answer: http://www.quora.com/Movies/Is-there-any-movie-with-real-computer-security-cracking-hacking.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 January, 2014, 09:18:31 PM
Quote from: Colm on 03 January, 2014, 09:07:59 PM
See Stephen Willey's answer: http://www.quora.com/Movies/Is-there-any-movie-with-real-computer-security-cracking-hacking.

Wow. A link that wants access to my email address before it'll let me view it. Ummm... no.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Colm on 03 January, 2014, 09:55:14 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 03 January, 2014, 09:18:31 PM
Quote from: Colm on 03 January, 2014, 09:07:59 PM
See Stephen Willey's answer: http://www.quora.com/Movies/Is-there-any-movie-with-real-computer-security-cracking-hacking.

Wow. A link that wants access to my email address before it'll let me view it. Ummm... no.

Cheers

Jim

Apologies...didn't realize you have to be signed in to view Quora answers. Screengrab attached if you're still interested.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 08 January, 2014, 02:17:47 PM
Watched it again on my new set up. Still a cracking good view and one of the best and most modestly priced Bd's on the market.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 08 January, 2014, 02:31:52 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 08 January, 2014, 02:17:47 PM
Watched it again on my new set up. Still a cracking good view and one of the best and most modestly priced Bd's on the market.


(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/image-33.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/image-33.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 08 January, 2014, 06:03:12 PM
It's staggering that such a good film on 3D Blu Ray is selling for under a tenner, when the likes of Pacific Rimjob are retailing at £20 a pop!  I can't make any sense of it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 08 January, 2014, 06:07:51 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 08 January, 2014, 06:03:12 PM
It's staggering that such a good film on 3D Blu Ray is selling for under a tenner, when the likes of Pacific Rimjob are retailing at £20 a pop!  I can't make any sense of it.

Because much as I love Dredd, Pacific Rim is a better film?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 08 January, 2014, 06:10:01 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 08 January, 2014, 06:07:51 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 08 January, 2014, 06:03:12 PM
It's staggering that such a good film on 3D Blu Ray is selling for under a tenner, when the likes of Pacific Rimjob are retailing at £20 a pop!  I can't make any sense of it.

Because much as I love Dredd, Pacific Rim is a better film?

Seriously?!?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 January, 2014, 06:10:51 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 08 January, 2014, 06:03:12 PM
It's staggering that such a good film on 3D Blu Ray is selling for under a tenner, when the likes of Pacific Rimjob are retailing at £20 a pop!  I can't make any sense of it.


Pacific Rim only came out on Blu-ray in October, when it's been out for a year, like Dredd, Skyfall (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Skyfall-Blu-ray-Daniel-Craig/dp/B00CAO86QY/ref=sr_1_3?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1389204567&sr=1-3&keywords=skyfall) and Looper (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Looper-Blu-ray-Joseph-Gordon-Levitt/dp/B008OPZT8G/ref=sr_1_2?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1389204516&sr=1-2&keywords=looper), it too will be less than a tenner.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 08 January, 2014, 06:11:11 PM
I think age has more to do with it than quality to be frank, the Pacific Rim BD has only been in circulation for a few months while Dredd has been about for a year.

And for my two pence, I gave Dredd and Pacific Rim second place in my favourite movies of the year for 2012 and 13 respectively. Both great takes on their source material and genres.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 08 January, 2014, 06:11:35 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 08 January, 2014, 06:11:11 PM
I think age has more to do with it than quality to be frank, the Pacific Rim BD has only been in circulation for a few months while Dredd has been about for a year.

And for my two pence, I gave Dredd and Pacific Rim second place in my favourite movies of the year for 2012 and 13 respectively. Both great takes on their source material and genres.

Bah! Beat me to it Joe!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 08 January, 2014, 06:14:18 PM
Sorry, but of a knee-jerk reaction there - I know there's a lotta love for Pacific Rim.

I was talking specifically about 3D Blu Ray. They seem to hold their value for a long time. Except for Dredd, which dropped like a stone, price-wise.  Then you have films like that new Oz one - still £20 in 3D!

Is there a 3D version of Skyfall?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 08 January, 2014, 06:16:14 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 08 January, 2014, 06:10:01 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 08 January, 2014, 06:07:51 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 08 January, 2014, 06:03:12 PM
It's staggering that such a good film on 3D Blu Ray is selling for under a tenner, when the likes of Pacific Rimjob are retailing at £20 a pop!  I can't make any sense of it.

Because much as I love Dredd, Pacific Rim is a better film?

Seriously?!?

Absolutely. Pacific Rim was my favourite film from last year. Dredd is great, but IMO is not even as good as The Raid... (obviously, opinion on here may vary!)

Dredd has nothing for the casual viewer to hook onto - which is something I realised about it a while ago. Anderson has no real character - pretty much all personality she has is what you and I bring in as comic readers who know the character.
(now is the bit where everyone tells me how not comic reading friends of theirs love it! I loe the movie too - it's just that I recognise my opinion is coloured by my love of the comic)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 08 January, 2014, 06:21:16 PM
Ok, it was probably wrong of me to go in from the 'Dredd is a better film' angle.

Lets look at it just from the perspective of age then. If you browse the 3D Blu Rays on Amazon that came out around the same time as Dredd, you'll be hard pressed to find many under £15, even harder around the £10 mark, and almost impossible at £7!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 January, 2014, 06:24:43 PM


Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 08 January, 2014, 06:14:18 PM
I was talking specifically about 3D Blu Ray. They seem to hold their value for a long time. Except for Dredd, which dropped like a stone, price-wise.


It didn't really, it's price only dropped in the last quarter and among the 3D/2D blu-rays Dredd is the only one that is a single disc release (no DVD included or seperate 2D bluray)  which means they can flog it cheaper.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 January, 2014, 06:33:01 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 08 January, 2014, 06:21:16 PMLets look at it just from the perspective of age then. If you browse the 3D Blu Rays on Amazon that came out around the same time as Dredd, you'll be hard pressed to find many under £15, even harder around the £10 mark, and almost impossible at £7!!!


All blu-ray 3D films on amazon best-sellers are 2 disc (or more) releases and Dredd is only one of two others that are single disc releases:


http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/dvd/535556031/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_d_h__1_2_last


The other single disc release is Doctor Who: The Day of the Doctor but that's only out been for a month and it's at £11.25.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 08 January, 2014, 06:33:36 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 08 January, 2014, 06:16:14 PM



Dredd has nothing for the casual viewer to hook onto - which is something I realised about it a while ago. Anderson has no real character - pretty much all personality she has is what you and I bring in as comic readers who know the character.


Woah, my brain can't have registered that when I first read it! WHAT?!? Nothing to latch on to? She's orphaned, having lost her patents to cancer. She's a failure, being given a second chance. She's naively entering a dangerous world she thinks she can somehow improve. She's being tested by a badass superior. She's the underdog!  What's not to latch on to?!? And where is any of that mentioned in the comic?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 08 January, 2014, 06:49:27 PM
Mm. My wife would disagree with Mr Clements on that—she loved the Dredd film and Anderson resonated with her. I'm not sure she's read any Dredd comics, and she's certainly never read any Anderson ones.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 08 January, 2014, 06:55:52 PM
Shaolin Monkey's hit the nail on the head there. I could actually tell you more about film Anderson than I could comic Anderson, to be honest.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 January, 2014, 07:52:40 PM
Make Judge Anderson a sequel now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 08 January, 2014, 08:14:25 PM
Not wanting to start a "my film's better than your film" war, but I thought the script for Pacific Rim was dire and the Robo-suits pummelling monsters got pretty old, pretty quickly as well as the gratingly unfunny two scientist characters, while Dredd has been my favourite Sci-Fi/Action movie for the last decade, still each to their own.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 08 January, 2014, 08:22:53 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 08 January, 2014, 06:33:36 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 08 January, 2014, 06:16:14 PM



Dredd has nothing for the casual viewer to hook onto - which is something I realised about it a while ago. Anderson has no real character - pretty much all personality she has is what you and I bring in as comic readers who know the character.


Woah, my brain can't have registered that when I first read it! WHAT?!? Nothing to latch on to? She's orphaned, having lost her patents to cancer. She's a failure, being given a second chance. She's naively entering a dangerous world she thinks she can somehow improve. She's being tested by a badass superior. She's the underdog!  What's not to latch on to?!? And where is any of that mentioned in the comic?

Yeah, really can't agree what Rich wrote about this either.

Many of the positive reviews of Dredd gave special mention to Anderson as a strong character with a well developed arc.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 January, 2014, 08:27:06 PM

I thought Anderson was brilliant in Dredd, from Rookie at start into badass Judge.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 08 January, 2014, 08:47:25 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 08 January, 2014, 06:16:14 PM

Absolutely. Pacific Rim was my favourite film from last year. Dredd is great, but IMO is not even as good as The Raid... (obviously, opinion on here may vary!)

Dredd has nothing for the casual viewer to hook onto - which is something I realised about it a while ago. Anderson has no real character - pretty much all personality she has is what you and I bring in as comic readers who know the character.
(now is the bit where everyone tells me how not comic reading friends of theirs love it! I loe the movie too - it's just that I recognise my opinion is coloured by my love of the comic)

Quote from: Richmond Clements on 07 January, 2014, 01:01:50 PM
Everybody being determined to see everything as shit really wears me down...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 08 January, 2014, 08:50:33 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 January, 2014, 09:14:59 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 08 January, 2014, 06:16:14 PM
Absolutely. Pacific Rim was my favourite film from last year. Dredd is great, but IMO is not even as good as The Raid... (obviously, opinion on here may vary!)

Dredd has nothing for the casual viewer to hook onto - which is something I realised about it a while ago. Anderson has no real character - pretty much all personality she has is what you and I bring in as comic readers who know the character.
(now is the bit where everyone tells me how not comic reading friends of theirs love it! I loe the movie too - it's just that I recognise my opinion is coloured by my love of the comic)


I don't usually like comparing films as it's always better to analyse films on a case by case basis (what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another and under the surface they're 3 quite different films with different styles) but since it's been raised in relation to the titular character and film we all know, I'll give it a go:




Specifically among the 3 in question: Pacific Rim, The Raid and Dredd, character is where Dredd suffers least. It's pared back all right but at least we, the audience, throughout its course and with each new scene, get to know how both main characters work and also see how Anderson and Dredd bear witness to  each other's strengths and weaknesses and as minimal and as haiku as she is, Ma-Ma is quite compelling (a testament to the right casting).

Of the other 2 films the only one that comes closest to this is The Raid because of its laser-sharp focus on its central protagonist –hinting at slivers of a deeper, personal story– and we really see how resourceful and tenacious he is against the opposition whom mostly function as pure binary opposites (in this film's case it's a strength not a weakness. But at the end of the day it's all really there to serve the beautiful fights.

The 2 young leads in Pacific Rim are a write-off for most of the film and the only characters that are actually interesting and have actual character are secondary: Ron Perlman and Idris Elba, and they're seriously under-used. They should've been central.What it has in its favour is an extended middle-act of pure spectacle, and spectacle that's well directed and put together, but it really only arrives in the second act –along with all the best character stuff– and then deflates to a drab end.

What Dredd doesn't have in comparison to the other two is a stronger sense of a singular directorial style and both Guillermo Del Toro and Gareth Evans are tough, tough, tough competition. Pacific Rim relies solely on its mid-film spectacle and humour but The Raid is arguably the best directed and edited film of 2012 and shouldn't be underestimated. It's crafted within an inch of its life (it was shot and cut twice, once as a rehearsal and then the actual shoot/edit) and in its singular purpose achieves precisely what it set out to do leaving no prisoners and every other film, in all genres, behind. Nothing was wasted so putting Dredd up against it means putting it up with one of the best of that year.

All 3 films share about as much significant plot/story as each other but Pacific Rim contains a lot of extraneous exposition and structurally is a dog's dinner: sloppy and causing indigestion. Individual bits looks nice on their own but they don't really go together.

The Raid in terms of story is an hermetically sealed miniature and like its chop-socky choreography works like a Swiss watch.

I feel Dredd could've done with a bit more of 'the citizens of Peach Trees' (maybe a different environ within the block) plus one extra story element to lift its back-end and add a bit more to Anderson's mutant conflict– a conflict which is very well set-up in both the first and second acts for some kind of pay-off in the third, and ironically, I think Arthur Wyatt consciously or subconsciously (or not at all) picked up on this loose-end and paid it off with his mutant-traffiking angle in Underbelly, which most interestingly, works like a coda rather than as a sequel for the film. They really go together as a piece.

As for engaging a 'wider' audience, that's rather subjective, and Dredd is sliding more to The Raid end of the scale in terms of audience size but commercially Dredd was also fighting against an older taint to its brand that just might have been dispelled since; a burst in the 3D bubble and faulty marketing. It should've at least made its money back at the box-office.

Pacific Rim didn't engage me until about 40 minutes in and lost me in its last half hour but it was commercial and had big robots and monsters. The Raid had me from the start but the fights can be wearisome for a general audience which is probably why it didn't crossover from its niche too much into the mainstream (it made less money than Dredd though with a smaller general release) but it pays itself off very well.

Dredd could've done with a broadening of its opening scenes in the city, the city-block and to add that extra bit of plot/story to play around with in its third act but that = mo' money and technically if I was forced to rate it amongst the others it would be second only to The Raid in terms of execution with Pacific Rim very much last. No means a perfect beast and small-scale, it works very much through its characters, tight writing, pacing and atmosphere. Along with lovely production-design, blunt and to-the point gunplay, it succeeds in what I believe it set-out to do: faithfully bring those characters to the screen whilst hinting at a broader canvas.







Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 January, 2014, 11:04:43 PM
Second act battle aside, Pacific Rim didn't grab me.

I wish Dredd had a bit more variety in it, nothing to blow the budget.

One of ma-ma's goons going headfirst/getting their arm caught in a garbage grinder seems like it would have suited it, and cost eff all.

Something to break up the standard executions, anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 08 January, 2014, 11:49:18 PM
I thought Pacific Rim was pretty poor to be honest. It had a couple of exciting fight scenes that looked nice, but other than that, it was borderline terrible. Charlie Hunnam should never be allowed near a lead role in a film of this scale again, his acting was that bad and wooden, and the supporting cast and characters (Perlman aside) were equally as bad, especially those with the hooky Aussie accents, which was just awful to listen to. By far Del Toro's worst film I think.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 09 January, 2014, 12:05:46 AM
Nice round up Joe.

In defence of Pacific Rim, the 3D is ferkin incredible both on big and small screen. Kudos to the visuals all round.

Other than that, I unfortunately found it to be like a corny over-extended less awesome episode of Megas XLR.

That's only my opinion though - I don't want to piss on anyone else's chips. Just don't get me started in 'Man of Steel'...

Re Dredd, I found a way to increase the 3D effect on my telly last night, so rewatched it. It gave me a slight headache, but really made the visual effects stand out all the more. Things looked more 'solid', if you get what I mean.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 January, 2014, 12:10:14 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 09 January, 2014, 12:05:46 AM
Re Dredd, I found a way to increase the 3D effect on my telly last night, so rewatched it. It gave me a slight headache, but really made the visual effects stand out all the more. Things looked more 'solid', if you get what I mean.


Watch out! You'll be noticing strange orifices (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IxeroqZSuo) appearing in your abdomen.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 09 January, 2014, 12:35:48 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 09 January, 2014, 12:10:14 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 09 January, 2014, 12:05:46 AM
Re Dredd, I found a way to increase the 3D effect on my telly last night, so rewatched it. It gave me a slight headache, but really made the visual effects stand out all the more. Things looked more 'solid', if you get what I mean.


Watch out! You'll be noticing strange orifices (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IxeroqZSuo) appearing in your abdomen.

Long live the New flesh! 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 09 January, 2014, 07:05:31 AM
QuotePosted by: CrazyFoxMachine
« on: 08 January, 2014, 08:47:25 PM » Insert Quote
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 08 January, 2014, 06:16:14 PM

Absolutely. Pacific Rim was my favourite film from last year. Dredd is great, but IMO is not even as good as The Raid... (obviously, opinion on here may vary!)

Dredd has nothing for the casual viewer to hook onto - which is something I realised about it a while ago. Anderson has no real character - pretty much all personality she has is what you and I bring in as comic readers who know the character.
(now is the bit where everyone tells me how not comic reading friends of theirs love it! I loe the movie too - it's just that I recognise my opinion is coloured by my love of the comic)

Quote from: Richmond Clements on 07 January, 2014, 01:01:50 PM
Everybody being determined to see everything as shit really wears me down...



QuoteBecause much as I love Dredd

Quote mining! Yeahhh!

I'll go back to keeping my mouth shut then... I'm obviously totally wrong in my personal opinion...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 09 January, 2014, 08:31:32 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 09 January, 2014, 07:05:31 AMI'm obviously totally wrong in my personal opinion...

Yeah, well, that's like just your opinion, man. 
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 09 January, 2014, 09:00:31 AM
It's apples and oranges innit. The one thing both films have in common was that they both should have done better at the box office.
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 09 January, 2014, 09:05:12 AM
Not having a pop at anyone, mind. Rich made a fair point - a fairly common criticism of Dredd was that it was a bit bleak and some people found it hard to get involved in the story. It was always going to be a relatively cult film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 January, 2014, 10:29:44 AM
DREDD was a tough, 18 Film so it's audience appeal was always going to be limited.

It did far better in DVD/Download sales in comparison to it's Box Office appeal and that indicates there was an audience for it but that audience decided not to go and see it in the Cinema.

The question remains why that was so. Some say it was the Marketing; they gave away a lot of the plot in the Trailer as I recall which is never really a good idea and of course the shadow of Stallone's effort colouring peoples perceptions since the 2012  seen as a remake of the 1995 Movie in some quarters. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 09 January, 2014, 10:47:05 AM
Giving away the plot in a trailer seems par for the course these days—the problem with Dredd, though, is the plot is extremely basic, and every one of the major twists is included. It might have worked better in playing up the more general dystopia, action and, frankly, gender-neutrality. We'll never know now, but I don't really know anyone who was excited by that Dredd trailer, but some of the overseas ones (like one, IIRC, from Japan) did a better job of selling the gritty, tough, unsanitised nature of the film.

Fundamentally, a hard 18/R of a little-known property is always going to have a tough time, not least given that Americans mostly thought it was a Stallone-series reboot. Add to that the emphasis on 3D prints and it's not a huge surprise the box-office take was limited (although I was nonetheless surprised at quite how limited in the USA). That said, take away the 3D aspect of the film and lower ticket prices might have meant it wasn't the #1 in the UK for that single week...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 09 January, 2014, 11:16:02 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 09 January, 2014, 08:31:32 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 09 January, 2014, 07:05:31 AMI'm obviously totally wrong in my personal opinion...

Yeah, well, that's like just your opinion, man.

Sorry mate, I didn't mean come across as to totally bashing your opinion. Just stating my own is all.  It's all horses for courses, innit?
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 January, 2014, 04:26:00 PM

Quote from: radiator on 09 January, 2014, 09:00:31 AM
It's apples and oranges innit. The one thing both films have in common was that they both should have done better at the box office.



Pacific Rim made over $400 million. I think it did about as good as any Kaiju film could.
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 09 January, 2014, 04:37:26 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 09 January, 2014, 04:26:00 PM

Quote from: radiator on 09 January, 2014, 09:00:31 AM
It's apples and oranges innit. The one thing both films have in common was that they both should have done better at the box office.



Pacific Rim made over $400 million. I think it did about as good as any Kaiju film could.

Transformers 3, another movie about giant robots, made over a billion. Either way, it didn't do as well as expected.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 09 January, 2014, 04:39:22 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 09 January, 2014, 11:16:02 AM
Sorry mate, I didn't mean come across as to totally bashing your opinion. Just stating my own is all.  It's all horses for courses, innit?

Fuck you and the very reasonable horse you rode in on, bub!

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 January, 2014, 04:48:27 PM

Quote from: radiator on 09 January, 2014, 04:37:26 PM
Transformers 3, another movie about giant robots, made over a billion. Either way, it didn't do as well as expected.


Transformers was a huge brand that sold the world over and was another Micheal Bay film about Americans and their cities being destroyed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 09 January, 2014, 09:23:08 PM
It also had Shia Labeouf in it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 10 January, 2014, 04:45:00 PM
Shit lepouf's acting skills ensured the success of the Transformers franchise. As did his appearance in the last Indie movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 January, 2014, 04:54:28 PM
Sad thing is, I actually used to think Shia Leboef was alright. I didn't even think he was too bad in KS. He's totally pissed all my goodwill against the wall since, of course. Colossal moron.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 January, 2014, 05:43:16 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 January, 2014, 04:54:28 PM
Sad thing is, I actually used to think Shia Leboef was alright. I didn't even think he was too bad in KS. He's totally pissed all my goodwill against the wall since, of course. Colossal moron.


I think you've pushed him too far, he's...gone (http://www.slashfilm.com/shia-labeouf-tweets-retirement-announcement/).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 January, 2014, 02:42:34 AM
Ha, for some reason I thought all the last few posts were all by joe soap and he was debating with himself.

Also, it's just my opinion, but I think all this 'it's just my opinion' stuff makes his film is better then that arguments pretty dull.

I reckon pacific rim was rubbish and people won't even be talking about it in a couple more months, the raid was good on kung fu but a bit shit in story (why kill all the cops apart from the small group so fast?) and Dredd is great. Having said that I watched the blu-ray and the cgi city seemed far more noticeable then when I watched it at the cinema. I fear it may not age well. Having said that also, people probably thought that about  shit practical effects for dated sci-fi and action, and now they have a charm about them. Only time will tell IMHO

p.s has anyone watched the trailer to alien: isolation?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Theblazeuk on 13 January, 2014, 10:28:19 AM
I have watched the trailer for Alien: Isolation.

It looks dead good though I am not of the widely held opinion that guns ruin the horror of Alien. I remember AvP.... However this is a much more creative interpretation anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 16 January, 2014, 03:54:23 AM
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 13 January, 2014, 10:28:19 AM
I have watched the trailer for Alien: Isolation.

It looks dead good though I am not of the widely held opinion that guns ruin the horror of Alien. I remember AvP.... However this is a much more creative interpretation anyway.

Yeah true, but suppose it does need to be one alien this time. It's been cannon fodder in games and movies for far too long. At least now it can only die once.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 18 January, 2014, 03:27:26 PM
No checked in for a while,any news?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 January, 2014, 03:36:04 PM
Not really.

There's an article in Sci-fi Now by Dredd producer Adi Shankar that the Dredd short he's working on is a third completed.

That's due out this year.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 18 January, 2014, 04:06:36 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 18 January, 2014, 03:36:04 PM
There's an article in Sci-fi Now by Dredd producer Adi Shankar that the Dredd short he's working on is a third completed.
That's due out this year.

Something to look out for at least.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 18 January, 2014, 05:02:23 PM
Let's hope the Urbinator is available for a crafty cameo appearance!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Danbo on 18 January, 2014, 06:35:29 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 18 January, 2014, 04:06:36 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 18 January, 2014, 03:36:04 PM
There's an article in Sci-fi Now by Dredd producer Adi Shankar that the Dredd short he's working on is a third completed.
That's due out this year.

Something to look out for at least.
Yeah,better than nowt I suppose.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 19 January, 2014, 05:14:20 PM
Can't wait for this short to come out, just finished watching Dredd again today not seen it for a month. What a cracking film it is don't think i'll ever get bored of it. :). Just wish a proper sequel would get green lit  :thumbsup: Come on people responsible show some balls and give it another chance.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 19 January, 2014, 06:55:07 PM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 19 January, 2014, 05:14:20 PM
Can't wait for this short to come out, just finished watching Dredd again today not seen it for a month. What a cracking film it is don't think i'll ever get bored of it. :). Just wish a proper sequel would get green lit  :thumbsup: Come on people responsible show some balls and give it another chance.

Couldn't agree more!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 January, 2014, 08:00:56 AM

Someone just post it on IMDB...

Watched it for the first time last week....

Since then, I've watched it four times. Why it took me so long to see it I'll never know. I missed it's theatrical run(shamefully). I guess I just thought at the time "how good could it be...really?? nobody ever seems to mention it".

How wrong could a person be. This film delivered on ALL levels. The action, the acting, direction, cinematography, the soundtrack & Karl Urban....holy mother of badassery! this dude was perfect in the role. Costume looked fantastic, as well as the signature Dredd snarl and menacing voice.

Don't get me wrong here, believe it or not I'm not one of the Judge Dredd 1995 haters. I actually liked that film. For what it is, it's a decent action film. But it's NOT really a Judge Dredd film at the end of the day.

THIS ONE however, nailed it 100% and I'm glad I added it to my DVD collection. A sequel would be great, but this is a cult classic if I ever saw one regardless of what the future holds for Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 January, 2014, 04:34:09 PM
What that tells me is that this person didn't go to the pictures to see it and waited for the DVD to come down in price before they spent their money on it. Still, at least they enjoyed the film :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 20 January, 2014, 05:58:48 PM
What that tells me is that I must copy and paste more stuff to get my meagre count up  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 20 January, 2014, 11:59:37 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 20 January, 2014, 08:00:56 AM

Someone just post it on IMDB...

Watched it for the first time last week....

Since then, I've watched it four times. Why it took me so long to see it I'll never know. I missed it's theatrical run(shamefully). I guess I just thought at the time "how good could it be...really?? nobody ever seems to mention it".

How wrong could a person be. This film delivered on ALL levels. The action, the acting, direction, cinematography, the soundtrack & Karl Urban....holy mother of badassery! this dude was perfect in the role. Costume looked fantastic, as well as the signature Dredd snarl and menacing voice.

Don't get me wrong here, believe it or not I'm not one of the Judge Dredd 1995 haters. I actually liked that film. For what it is, it's a decent action film. But it's NOT really a Judge Dredd film at the end of the day.

THIS ONE however, nailed it 100% and I'm glad I added it to my DVD collection. A sequel would be great, but this is a cult classic if I ever saw one regardless of what the future holds for Dredd.

It's great that people can eventually end up seeing a film like Dredd and appreciate it for what it is, which is an outstandingly well made film that surprises in just how good it really is. However, it irks me when they say stuff like "I never seen this in the cinema and regret doing so" or "Never seen it because...blah blah...how good could it have been." If you'd gotten off your feckin arse in the first place to see it (goes for everyone with the same attitude) then maybe you'd have gotten a fucking sequel you now crave.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Theblazeuk on 21 January, 2014, 10:14:09 AM
Clearly these people should be hung. They'll really regret not seeing it in the cinema then
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 21 January, 2014, 10:25:58 AM
I like to think that somewhere out there on the web there are twisted communities of people lambasting the bastards who failed to attend the cinema in sufficient numbers to ensure sequels to my favourite comic book movies like The Shadow and Flash. Just because they weren't born, what sort of excuse is that?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Proudhuff on 21 January, 2014, 11:46:51 AM
if only those lazy bastards had got off their arses and created something instead of sitting in pubs talking about it they... hold on, thats me
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 January, 2014, 10:35:01 AM

2000AD: We're happy to announce that 2000 AD's first ever US-format comic, the DREDD comic book sequel DREDD: Underbelly, has sold out in the UK and US!!

Those people want sequel! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 22 January, 2014, 12:13:24 PM
How cool is that?   :D
Well done guys!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 23 January, 2014, 01:28:36 PM
That`s fantastic news.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 23 January, 2014, 02:54:38 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 20 January, 2014, 11:59:37 PM
If you'd gotten off your feckin arse in the first place to see it (goes for everyone with the same attitude) then maybe you'd have gotten a fucking sequel you now crave.

Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 January, 2014, 04:34:09 PM
What that tells me is that this person didn't go to the pictures to see it and waited for the DVD to come down in price before they spent their money on it. Still, at least they enjoyed the film :thumbsup:

You have to put a lot of these reactions in context and think how many people got burned with Judge Stallone (either originally or played TV many times since) that when they saw a new Dredd movie coming they thought "I'm not falling for that again" to find out that it's not A) that kind of Dredd or B) total crap.

With Dredd's cinematic history you can't blame people staying away until it's cheap or on Netflix.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 23 January, 2014, 03:03:07 PM
Aye, it's easy to forget when you spend so much of your free time immersed in the world of comics and 2000AD but a lot of people (especially in the US) have absolutely no idea of Dredd's provenance as a comic, and only know of the character as a thing from a shit 90's Stallone film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 January, 2014, 05:58:11 PM
I don't mind people seeing it for the first time just now (I've made no secret about the promotion of the film, or lack of) but it does grate a wee bit if they then say something along the lines of 'if only we could get a sequel.'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 23 January, 2014, 08:23:47 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 23 January, 2014, 03:03:07 PM
Aye, it's easy to forget when you spend so much of your free time immersed in the world of comics and 2000AD but a lot of people (especially in the US) have absolutely no idea of Dredd's provenance as a comic, and only know of the character as a thing from a shit 90's Stallone film.

Very true.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Theblazeuk on 24 January, 2014, 12:33:37 PM
I am happier that people watch it and say that than any other possible alternative barring timetravel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 24 January, 2014, 01:08:36 PM
It's a textbook cult film. I always said that it would be one that built an audience over time, and people would be discovering for many years. It's already screening regularly at the Prince Charles and at various other events which is heartening.

Frankly, better that than a flash in the pan that made money but wasn't a good film or successful adaptation.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 January, 2014, 12:17:10 AM
Good luck...

(http://i.imgur.com/eGseCt7.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 January, 2014, 12:23:26 AM



I think he means creds.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 28 January, 2014, 01:04:44 AM
You've got to love Ad Shankar! His passion for a sequel is infectious!
Here's hoping!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 January, 2014, 02:03:33 AM
Just been reading Adi's tweets and it seems that his Dredd short will be out in a few months time. Just how excited am I :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 28 January, 2014, 03:56:07 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 January, 2014, 02:03:33 AM
Just been reading Adi's tweets and it seems that his Dredd short will be out in a few months time. Just how excited am I :D

Awesome!  :)
Any hints at an Urban or Thirlby cameo? 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 January, 2014, 04:05:31 AM
Nah! Whatever he's up to, he's keeping it close to his chest. Even if we just heard Karl over the radio as he rushes to a crime I would be happy.

It would be good if Rebellion could interview him for an upcoming Meg, preferably before it comes out ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 28 January, 2014, 05:52:53 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 January, 2014, 04:05:31 AM
Nah! Whatever he's up to, he's keeping it close to his chest. Even if we just heard Karl over the radio as he rushes to a crime I would be happy.

It would be good if Rebellion could interview him for an upcoming Meg, preferably before it comes out ;)

Both of those things would be cool!   :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 January, 2014, 09:17:32 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 January, 2014, 04:05:31 AM
Nah! Whatever he's up to, he's keeping it close to his chest. Even if we just heard Karl over the radio as he rushes to a crime I would be happy.

It would be good if Rebellion could interview him for an upcoming Meg, preferably before it comes out ;)

Maybe like America with little cameo by Karl.

Another Meg for your cellar, sir?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: skurvy on 30 January, 2014, 12:28:03 PM
Guess what's at number 2?

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/comic-book-adaptations/29075/top-25-underappreciated-comic-book-movies
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 January, 2014, 12:34:48 PM
Quote from: skurvy on 30 January, 2014, 12:28:03 PM
Guess what's at number 2?

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/comic-book-adaptations/29075/top-25-underappreciated-comic-book-movies

Love this quote;
Make a friend watch Dredd today. They'll thank you for it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fragminion on 31 January, 2014, 02:48:00 AM
Quote from: radiator on 24 January, 2014, 01:08:36 PM
It's a textbook cult film. I always said that it would be one that built an audience over time, and people would be discovering for many years. It's already screening regularly at the Prince Charles and at various other events which is heartening.

Frankly, better that than a flash in the pan that made money but wasn't a good film or successful adaptation.
I would love to see a sequel but if they don't The Movie that we have is damn close to perfection as it gets....*goes to re-watch it again right now*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 February, 2014, 07:46:02 PM

Strangest, as 2000AD post it on Facebook but don't see it here!

5 Reasons Why We Need a Dredd Sequel

http://geekchicelite.com/5-reasons-need-dredd-sequel/ (http://geekchicelite.com/5-reasons-need-dredd-sequel/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fragminion on 03 February, 2014, 08:07:42 PM
I don't find fault with any of those points.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 February, 2014, 08:15:21 PM
;)

(http://i.imgur.com/h7gjgnJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 11 February, 2014, 01:31:26 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 07 February, 2014, 08:15:21 PM
;)

(http://i.imgur.com/h7gjgnJ.jpg)

:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 22 February, 2014, 12:26:28 PM
Hi all , not checked in for a while any news regarding the Dredd short. Heard on twitter that its still on for this year ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 22 February, 2014, 01:24:41 PM
In post production I believe. I've seen not a single picture and recording of it, so I assume it's VERY hush-hush.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 February, 2014, 02:16:30 PM
From the last bit of info, now under two months for it to be completed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 22 February, 2014, 02:40:06 PM
Another way to drum up support for a Dredd sequel one hopes!   :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 22 February, 2014, 06:34:15 PM
Cheers guys this has just brightened up my day  :). Just finished watching Dredd again and can't believe a sequel hasnt been green lit. Such a crime!!! Although I would prefer it to become a big tv series as the scope of what you could do and go with characters is better suited to this medium than a 2 hour film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 22 February, 2014, 08:53:52 PM
Hey! at least we can look forward to RoboCop 2 what !
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 February, 2014, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 22 February, 2014, 08:53:52 PM
Hey! at least we can look forward to RoboCop 2 what !


Not with its poor box-office performance.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 22 February, 2014, 09:06:48 PM
It's been getting half decent reviews ! I wasn't aware it wasn't pulling in dollars at the box office. But knowing the yanks they' ll green light a sequel anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 February, 2014, 09:09:23 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 22 February, 2014, 09:06:48 PM
But knowing the yanks they' ll green light a sequel anyway.

Knowing Hollywood, not a chance; it's all about dollahs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 22 February, 2014, 09:51:37 PM
Getting where your coming from Mr Soap but I've a bad feeling this version of Robo
Nob will rear its ugly head again!
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 23 February, 2014, 10:46:00 AM
Yeah, Robocop has well and truly flopped in the states, and has done just ok internationally. There's even less chance of a Robocop 2 than there is of a Dredd 2.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 23 February, 2014, 06:10:38 PM
Thank Grud. It's possible the main stream audience has had its fill of future cop movies then. Its time for Strontium Dog and Flesh on the big screen. ABC Warriors would work too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: locustsofdeath! on 23 February, 2014, 06:20:17 PM
I put Dredd and Robocop on about the same level (Dredd being maybe a little better). I saw both, don't regret seeing either, could care less if I see either of them again. I think both characters deserve better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 23 February, 2014, 06:36:49 PM
Luckily, I guess a sequel would likely be Cursed Earth based if it ever happens, so it wouldn't be another future city cop at least.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 24 February, 2014, 09:06:46 PM
http://whatculture.com/tv/destination-star-trek-frankfurt-press-conference-report-2.php (http://whatculture.com/tv/destination-star-trek-frankfurt-press-conference-report-2.php)

More discussions.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 February, 2014, 09:21:01 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 24 February, 2014, 09:06:46 PM
http://whatculture.com/tv/destination-star-trek-frankfurt-press-conference-report-2.php (http://whatculture.com/tv/destination-star-trek-frankfurt-press-conference-report-2.php)

More discussions.

Karl Urban said ''conversations'' are taking place between the studio, the director and writer Alex Garland. He commented that the cinema release of Dredd was badly handled but the film had found its audience on DVD and it has been noticed by the studio.

Our Karl got good answer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 24 February, 2014, 09:41:58 PM
Not gonna put all my breath in to one basket just yet...

Might hold my chicken for a while though, can't hurt.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 24 February, 2014, 09:44:43 PM
Even though it is nothing solid, it is great to hear some encouraging news!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 24 February, 2014, 10:27:03 PM
At least the studio are acknowledging there may be a future for Dredd if they are having discussions.  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 24 February, 2014, 10:40:25 PM
Fingers and everything else crossed!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 24 February, 2014, 10:49:49 PM
Just seen the news..exciting stuff..at least there's dialogue
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 24 February, 2014, 11:38:52 PM
It's interesting that he mentioned the director. My preference is for Travis to return if they get a sequel going.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 25 February, 2014, 03:48:22 AM
(http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/imagecache/Node_Page/images/catttt.png)

!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 25 February, 2014, 04:12:27 AM
We live in exciting times :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 25 February, 2014, 04:41:28 AM
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/def46e6335c6e6cc904710cedf1a326e/tumblr_inline_n1japeZyxO1qc5qxv.gif)

I'm sorry to double post but I found a better gif to express myself
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 25 February, 2014, 06:23:52 AM
Quote from: mimikeke on 25 February, 2014, 04:41:28 AMI found a better gif to express myself

This is literally the catchphrase of our era. Also this gif expresses how I feel, not just about this news but all of the time.

(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Excited-Seal-Tells-A-Joke-Reaction-Gif.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 25 February, 2014, 06:41:58 AM
As expected, it's being picked up elsewhere. Any buzz can only assist the self-fulfilling prophecy effect (if only in a small way).

http://screenrant.com/judge-dredd-2-sequel-happening/

Just from the comments since the DVD release it's pretty obvious Dredd 2 would have a bigger audience than the first film. Though I understand that it's still a gamble at this point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 25 February, 2014, 06:42:47 AM
And to stick with the cat theme..

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/515/629/9bd.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 25 February, 2014, 07:04:53 AM
Would also like to point out that, if Dredd 2 is in the Cursed Earth, Urban's already cosplayed it.  Just need a little cg-over and some dubbin  :lol:

(http://asset-8.soup.io/asset/1920/0796_8080.jpeg)
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/8aff4d40309d932232178b4cd1ef3676/tumblr_mtsfo1JY9F1sd8r7ho1_400.gif)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P6Q_6u_kVW0/Tqt8ehX6GQI/AAAAAAAAASY/DA3Vj6N_Als/s400/dmoldtradeseanp.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 25 February, 2014, 07:14:49 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 February, 2014, 08:59:10 AM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly8emxQJmY1r2pdy5o1_250.gif)(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly8emxQJmY1r2pdy5o2_250.gif)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly8emxQJmY1r2pdy5o3_500.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 February, 2014, 09:04:26 AM
Quote from: Stan on 25 February, 2014, 06:41:58 AM

http://screenrant.com/judge-dredd-2-sequel-happening/

Just from the comments since the DVD release it's pretty obvious Dredd 2 would have a bigger audience than the first film. Though I understand that it's still a gamble at this point.

Great comments on the link!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 February, 2014, 01:52:01 PM

Lots of it on Twitter, and most sites pick it up, as SFX does now;

The Dredd movie may have failed to set the box office alight, but there's a hell of lot of love out there for the second big screen outing of 2000 AD's favourite son. Now Screen Rant is reporting that star Karl Urban had told the audience at the Destination Star Trek event in Frankfurt that "conversations" are taking place about a sequel. Apparently DVD sales have been robust enough to make the financial backers at Lionsgate think that a return to Mega City One could happen. One to file under "wait and see" for now, but it's the most promising news we've heard about a sequel.

http://www.sfx.co.uk/2014/02/25/tuesday-link-a-mania-83/ (http://www.sfx.co.uk/2014/02/25/tuesday-link-a-mania-83/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 25 February, 2014, 06:02:36 PM
Hell yes, there isn't a more rich wealth of awesome material to adapt than Dredd. A sequel is inevitable and necessary for all citizens!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 25 February, 2014, 06:13:17 PM
Come on the day it happens, the 2012 movie brought hundreds like me back to the prog, think of what a sequel would do! Z
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: 8-Ball on 25 February, 2014, 07:03:43 PM
Quote from: ZenArcade on 25 February, 2014, 06:13:17 PM
Come on the day it happens, the 2012 movie brought hundreds like me back to the prog, think of what a sequel would do! Z

I was in the same position. I was a regular reader for about three years in the early nineties but walked away just as Inferno was beginning. The fact that I am here and my shelves are now groaning under the weight of Judge Dredd and JD-related trades is all down to the Dredd movie. I need more movie Dredd. I want other people to want movie Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 25 February, 2014, 07:12:28 PM
Underbelly really helps too...

Shows the interest is still there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: 8-Ball on 25 February, 2014, 07:35:45 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 25 February, 2014, 07:12:28 PM
Underbelly really helps too...

Shows the interest is still there.

Good point Bat King. I started to buy the Meg on a regular basis because of Underbelly. That is something that I have always shied away from due to the relatively high price and the fact that it is bagged (and therefore I can't see what I am buying.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 25 February, 2014, 07:58:58 PM
It's not just that the big guns are hyping this news, it's that the comments section on AICN - the domain of the snarky - have nothing but love for Dredd. Good signs.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/66311
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 25 February, 2014, 08:16:13 PM
Karl at the German con last weekend  :lol:

(http://i57.tinypic.com/2q1aosz.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 February, 2014, 08:32:48 PM
haha! brilliant reply, Karl!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 25 February, 2014, 11:17:17 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 25 February, 2014, 07:58:58 PM
It's not just that the big guns are hyping this news, it's that the comments section on AICN - the domain of the snarky - have nothing but love for Dredd. Good signs.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/66311

Urban makes me laugh. I wonder if he knew what he was doing when he blurted that out? I hope the studio is taking note of the positive response anyway. Particularly from hard to tame places like AICN.

And I'm now more convinced than ever that the marketing guy who saw Anderson as a bit character needs to be slapped upside the head with a 2 be fo'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 February, 2014, 12:09:46 AM





A short but on-the-nose discussion about the complexities of getting a sequel made that elaborates on the distribution issue(s) and the discrepancies of the first film's reported budget.


DREDD II (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr3TpbG79Sg&t=14m27s)




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 26 February, 2014, 12:25:03 AM
That was both enjoyable and informative at the same time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 February, 2014, 12:26:41 AM


Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 26 February, 2014, 12:25:03 AM
That was both enjoyable and informative at the same time.

Entusiasm goes a long way...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 February, 2014, 12:27:22 AM


or Enthusiasm.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 26 February, 2014, 12:33:24 AM
Yeah, that was a great piece.  Thanks Joe.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 February, 2014, 12:37:04 AM



The distribution issues likely mean Lionsgate would need to buy-out some –maybe all– the other distributors, or co-produce, if they want to make it themselves. Not saying it will or won't be but such things have been done before (Kick-Ass got traded around) and where there's a will...


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 26 February, 2014, 12:38:57 AM
Thank God you corrected yourself, I thought for a second you were trying to say euthanasia :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 February, 2014, 12:39:30 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 26 February, 2014, 12:38:57 AM
Thank God you corrected yourself, I thought for a second you were trying to say euthanasia :lol:


Not till I'm 50.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 February, 2014, 07:59:52 AM

Now film sites pick it up.

Even one site used my created poster! ;)

(http://sciencefiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/dredd_banner.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 26 February, 2014, 09:15:38 AM
Quote from: Stan on 25 February, 2014, 11:17:17 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 25 February, 2014, 07:58:58 PM
It's not just that the big guns are hyping this news, it's that the comments section on AICN - the domain of the snarky - have nothing but love for Dredd. Good signs.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/66311

Urban makes me laugh. I wonder if he knew what he was doing when he blurted that out? I hope the studio is taking note of the positive response anyway. Particularly from hard to tame places like AICN.

And I'm now more convinced than ever that the marketing guy who saw Anderson as a bit character needs to be slapped upside the head with a 2 be fo'.


I guess it's not that different from what he's said before, more that he continues to say it after the whole 'watching the Blu-Ray sales'.

Also that, for now, it generates publicity and hits for sites/videos so they run with it.

How long you can keep saying the same thing before people stop biting, I don't know.

The next thing will be how Adi Shankar's short is received.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 February, 2014, 09:21:17 AM
Well I think Karl is smart to do that, as only little talk about it, but to "kickstarter" the rumour, and lots sites pick up on it, I never see so many nice comments on those about want see the sequel, so the power that be would see how many people want that.

Thanks Karl as it been quiet last few months about sequel!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 26 February, 2014, 10:44:52 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 February, 2014, 12:09:46 AMthe discrepancies of the first film's reported budget
Funny how that's come back to bite them, assuming Garland was telling the truth (and there's no reason to think otherwise). Big up the film by saying it had a bigger budget than it did, and then that's used as a stick to beat it with when coupled with the dreadful box-office. It'd be interesting to know more accurately what the (pre-marketing) budget was, because there's a world of difference between, say, $15m, $35m and $50m. (That all said, I still think any Dredd follow-up is astonishingly unlikely purely because of risk, but who knows?)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheldipez on 26 February, 2014, 10:59:56 AM
I'm not having a go at the movie in anyway but I thought that the budget was a bit on the high side comparing to what ended up onscreen. I just assumed it was the 3D jacking up the price.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 26 February, 2014, 11:14:05 AM
Quote from: sheldipez on 26 February, 2014, 10:59:56 AM
I'm not having a go at the movie in anyway but I thought that the budget was a bit on the high side comparing to what ended up onscreen.

Worth mentioning that there are a lot of FX shots that really don't look like FX shots.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 26 February, 2014, 11:32:11 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 26 February, 2014, 10:44:52 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 February, 2014, 12:09:46 AMthe discrepancies of the first film's reported budget
Funny how that's come back to bite them, assuming Garland was telling the truth (and there's no reason to think otherwise). Big up the film by saying it had a bigger budget than it did, and then that's used as a stick to beat it with when coupled with the dreadful box-office. It'd be interesting to know more accurately what the (pre-marketing) budget was, because there's a world of difference between, say, $15m, $35m and $50m. (That all said, I still think any Dredd follow-up is astonishingly unlikely purely because of risk, but who knows?)



Wasn't Alex Garland quoted as saying that the film's production budget was less than $30M, it was Lionsgate's striking of prints and publicity that bumped it up to $50M?

Anyone got the quotes to hand?   :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 26 February, 2014, 12:10:44 PM
The oft-quoted production budget of $50m is _sans_ marketing though. I can't imagine it makes a great deal of difference though. Unless bloke in that video was right and the actual budget was $15m (which would place it closer to the likes of Hot Fuzz than a sci-fi, so that's staggeringly unlikely), its box-office take will still be the sticking point regarding any possibility of a sequel.

It's great to see Urban flying the flag and being so enthusiastic about the film. It reminds me of Nathan Fillion's long-time 'never say never' attitude regarding Firefly (and then Serenity). Here's hoping it works out better for Dredd than Whedon's abruptly canned series.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 February, 2014, 12:30:45 PM


Quote from: IndigoPrime on 26 February, 2014, 12:10:44 PM
The oft-quoted production budget of $50m is _sans_ marketing though.


That number only originated from one source, boxofficemojo, who still have an incorrect box-office total for Dredd so I reckon it's their estimate. Variety and the trades reported it as $45 million and in an early interview with one of the producers in 2010 it was claimed to be $35 million.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 26 February, 2014, 01:28:49 PM
Cheers Joe!

In an interview with Lena Headey, she stated that the production was of a low budget I seem to remember too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 February, 2014, 01:31:24 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 26 February, 2014, 11:14:05 AM
Worth mentioning that there are a lot of FX shots that really don't look like FX shots.

Yep, better FX Shots than many Hollywood films...
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 26 February, 2014, 01:37:15 PM
I've heard time and again that the production budget was always $35m, and that figure never changed, but they claimed it was $50m to make it seem a bigger deal and to build up hype. Iirc they also claimed that shooting in SA would effectively double their spending power so that Dredd would look more like a $100m movie, which, with all respect to the finished article (it's a visually ambitious work that has some great vfx) is clearly not the case.

I also heard that Lionsgate spent $20m on prints and advertising in the US.

When all the dust has settled, it'll be interesting to see how Dredd fared against Robocop 2014. Robocop had a reported budget of $130m, probably closer to $200m with marketing, so I wouldn't be surprised if Dredd ends up doing better, relatively (Dredd probably broke even whereas Robocop may not).
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 26 February, 2014, 01:46:29 PM
Quote from: radiator on 26 February, 2014, 01:37:15 PM
Dredd would look more like a $100m movie, which, with all respect to the finished article (it's a visually ambitious work that has some great vfx) is clearly not the case.

I dunno about that... I hear that these days $100M in Hollywood barely covers catering and the cocaine-and-hookers budget for the executive producers.

Cheers!

Jim
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 26 February, 2014, 01:47:57 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 26 February, 2014, 01:46:29 PM
Quote from: radiator on 26 February, 2014, 01:37:15 PM
Dredd would look more like a $100m movie, which, with all respect to the finished article (it's a visually ambitious work that has some great vfx) is clearly not the case.

I dunno about that... I hear that these days $100M in Hollywood barely covers catering and the cocaine-and-hookers budget for the executive producers.

Cheers!

Jim
This is Garland-Block not Bay-Falls.
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 26 February, 2014, 01:56:20 PM
As for chances of a sequel, I still get a little giddy whenever Karl makes one of these statements, but I also firmly believe that it just isn't feasible, and I've made my peace with that.

I mean, if you'd have told me 5 years ago that not only would there be a new Dredd film, but it would against all odds be a really GREAT one, and not only that, but the producer would put a little Easter egg in the movie just for ME, and to top it all I'd be invited to a secret advanced screening of it and get to meet four of my heroes, it would have blown my mind!

As tantalising as a prequel is, that's enough for me!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 February, 2014, 02:32:10 PM
Anyone remember this 2 years ago for 2000AD's 35th...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmeQVFKe8c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmeQVFKe8c)

sadly nothing happens today, no Dredd 2 sequel announcement! lol
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 26 February, 2014, 02:37:37 PM
Quote from: radiator on 26 February, 2014, 01:56:20 PM
As tantalising as a prequel is, that's enough for me!

Oooh! Are we getting a sequel AND a prequel?

You heard it here first!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 February, 2014, 02:41:52 PM
I'm not sure I quite understand the distribution issue brought up that video Joe Soap posted. I remember reading the film-makers sold the distribution rights which covered the budget or something along those lines, so they made their money back yeah? So if that means they sold the rights to any sequels too, and the distributors are currently on a loss, why wouldn't they want a sequel? They already have the rights so they don't need to buy them again, and they will more likely than not make their money back considering the demand.

Or have I got that all wrong?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 26 February, 2014, 02:45:25 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 26 February, 2014, 02:41:52 PM
I'm not sure I quite understand the distribution issue brought up that video Joe Soap posted. I remember reading the film-makers sold the distribution rights which covered the budget or something along those lines, so they made their money back yeah? So if that means they sold the rights to any sequels too, and the distributors are currently on a loss, why wouldn't they want a sequel? They already have the rights so they don't need to buy them again, and they will more likely than not make their money back considering the demand.

Or have I got that all wrong?

I think a second film in the Cursed Earth would easily require 100mil, I still don't think there is the audience for that.  I think you'd be surprised how expensive wandering around the desert is  :lol:

@Goaty: never seen that vid, that is awesome!!
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 February, 2014, 03:09:23 PM
Quote from: radiator on 26 February, 2014, 01:37:15 PM
I also heard that Lionsgate spent $20m on prints and advertising in the US.

The way it has been reported is that Lionsgate spent relatively little and that IMGlobal covered the cost of P&A:

Comic-Con fans seemed to accept this new gritty Dredd last summer, unlike the Sly Stallone version with lycra and codpieces. Reviews were good, and audiences gave the pic a 'B' CinemaScore. The bad news is that Deepak Nayer and Stuart Ford who put the picture together committed Reliance Entertainment to fund the $40M gap and backstop the P&A. The good news for Lionsgate is that it has minimal risk. LG's marketing campaign created a comic strip prequel to the film with the publisher 2000 AD as well as a Motion Comic released online.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/09/soft-friday-box-office-clint-eastwoods-trouble-with-the-curve-disappoints-but-end-of-watch-strong-even-if-house-1-rebooted-dredd-opens-just-dreadful/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 26 February, 2014, 03:42:44 PM
The money went on forum graffiti and Joe Soap's billboard.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 February, 2014, 03:43:35 PM
And News banner for John.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 26 February, 2014, 03:47:04 PM
He values the CF brand...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 26 February, 2014, 03:51:50 PM
I'm out looking for news items now ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 February, 2014, 04:34:50 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 26 February, 2014, 03:42:44 PM
The money went on forum graffiti and Joe Soap's billboard.


The Money Shot.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 February, 2014, 04:37:10 PM
Anyone found 3rd Goaty graffiti yet?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 26 February, 2014, 04:42:06 PM
Sorry Goaty, when I chatted to Alex at LFCC, we started that rumour to cause you maximum torture, as we knew you would go through the film fame by frame to find the elusive 3rd nod ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 February, 2014, 04:44:32 PM

Haha! Brilliant! Thanks for let it out. Fine with me as nice to see me featured in one of greatest scenes in Dredd!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 26 February, 2014, 04:47:05 PM
I'm only kidding ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 February, 2014, 04:49:28 PM
Bastard!!!  :lol:

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 26 February, 2014, 04:58:03 PM
My work here is done :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 26 February, 2014, 08:25:31 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 February, 2014, 04:34:50 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 26 February, 2014, 03:42:44 PM
The money went on forum graffiti and Joe Soap's billboard.


The Money Shot.

Peaked too early.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 February, 2014, 07:34:08 PM

Someone just post picture of Doug Jones;

Guess who he remind you of?

(http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/doug-jones-grand-reopening-dark-delacacies-6YBqQL.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: jackstarr on 27 February, 2014, 07:58:00 PM
Going by that image - Frank Skinner?  :P  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 28 February, 2014, 12:26:52 AM
Bert Shakespeare?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 28 February, 2014, 02:53:18 AM
Hey guys, hopefully my friend in Boston can get Karl to mention the Dredd movie petition at the con she's going to :)  Or maybe get another comic reading! Maybe something with the Dark Judges?  "Gaze into the fist of Dredd"?  :lol:

Suggestions welcome :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 February, 2014, 02:58:27 AM
If she knows someone with the movie helmet, then try and get him to wear it and say in his Dredd voice, "Who wants to see a Dredd sequel?"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mabs on 28 February, 2014, 09:30:27 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 27 February, 2014, 07:34:08 PM

Someone just post picture of Doug Jones;

Guess who he remind you of?

(http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/doug-jones-grand-reopening-dark-delacacies-6YBqQL.jpg)

Wow. That's uncanny! I think he'd be perfect in the role. Just look at his potrayal of the Angel of Death (!) in Hellboy 2, it's like the pre-cursor to Judge Death!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mabs on 28 February, 2014, 09:36:59 AM
(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m560/Nexus-wookie/09d667c5e31afcbc0690edd3b92c71b1.jpg)

Doug Jones as Angel of Death in Hellboy 2: The Golden Army.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 February, 2014, 01:39:10 PM
I thought that was supposed to be woman.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 28 February, 2014, 02:08:07 PM
Quote from: Stan on 28 February, 2014, 01:39:10 PM
I thought that was supposed to be woman.

Judge Death was briefly a woman, complete with 'comedy' blue-rinse perm when he used the body of an old woman to reincarnate.

(http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae177/spaceghost71/Death.jpg)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mabs on 28 February, 2014, 02:12:02 PM
Quote from: Stan on 28 February, 2014, 01:39:10 PM
I thought that was supposed to be woman.

I think the character is supposed to be asexual, as cited by Del Toro on the making of the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mabs on 28 February, 2014, 02:15:24 PM
Quote from: Spaceghost on 28 February, 2014, 02:08:07 PM
Quote from: Stan on 28 February, 2014, 01:39:10 PM
I thought that was supposed to be woman.

Judge Death was briefly a woman, complete with 'comedy' blue-rinse perm when he used the body of an old woman to reincarnate.


:o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 02 March, 2014, 11:21:53 AM
Wasn't Ma Ma allegedly going to be Judge Death? I remember someone mentioned it on the forum and I thought it was a great idea having a vengeful Ma Ma coming from beyond the grave somehow.

Lena Headly isn't exactly large is she?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 02 March, 2014, 11:33:13 AM
For a seqeuel?

First time I've heard that one.

The only thing I saw from Alex Garland was that it would be a standard judge uniform but really screwed up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 02 March, 2014, 11:57:42 AM
Maybe it was the 4
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 02 March, 2014, 11:58:31 AM
...the 4 corrupt Judges! Bloody modify button.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bolt-01 on 02 March, 2014, 11:58:57 AM
And Ma-Ma's remains wouldn't really be suited to being a host for Judge Death would they? It was a looong fall so there would be extensive skeletal trauma.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 02 March, 2014, 12:13:29 PM
Hell yes I hadn't thought of that! But she would be thin enough what with being flat on one side.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 07 March, 2014, 07:22:48 PM
Apologies if this has been posted already:

http://youtu.be/aZ_APW8035Q
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 March, 2014, 08:21:39 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 07 March, 2014, 07:22:48 PM
Apologies if this has been posted already:

http://youtu.be/aZ_APW8035Q

No, but it awesome as it shows the brutal of Dredd!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 07 March, 2014, 09:32:58 PM
Nice bit of Tube footage,  I'm off to watch the movie again.  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 March, 2014, 05:21:33 PM
Fan-made sequel trailer.

Not sure why they used the Stallone badge for one shot, and the cameo at the end... but fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJmFLdYBIVA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJmFLdYBIVA)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judda fett on 10 March, 2014, 05:39:14 PM
Loved the [spoiler]Judge Death[/spoiler] bit at the end of that trailer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 10 March, 2014, 05:56:45 PM
Ha! Like that alot. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cookyman on 10 March, 2014, 06:00:18 PM
2 thumbs up from me - nice use of CGI on the Witch King from Return of the King for you know who!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 March, 2014, 07:57:41 PM
Oh that was so awesome!

Someone mention the voice-over on it was our Karl's America talk?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Apestrife on 10 March, 2014, 08:01:05 PM
Such an awesome fan trailer. Whoever made it, THANK YOU :D!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 March, 2014, 08:32:32 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 10 March, 2014, 07:57:41 PM
Oh that was so awesome!

Someone mention the voice-over on it was our Karl's America talk?

Yep, not all of it, but it fits it so well.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 March, 2014, 08:33:59 PM

Thanks Steve! Perfect choice for this awesome trailer!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 March, 2014, 10:33:15 PM
Great effort, really makes me crave for a genuine sequel, which is surely a testiment to a job well done!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 11 March, 2014, 09:29:57 AM
Yeah, that was excellent.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 March, 2014, 11:18:22 AM
Looks great. You could almost believe couldn't you?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 11 March, 2014, 02:04:37 PM
Thought for a second it said "Cursed Edge" at the end...!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 11 March, 2014, 03:25:19 PM
Dredd Blu-Ray currently at #6 in the US Amazon charts and currently sold out!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mabs on 11 March, 2014, 04:28:56 PM
Awesome!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 March, 2014, 04:53:35 PM
Out of nowhere there seems to be a story going 'round that some news will be forthcoming at Comic Con (which I presume is San Diego). No idea how reliable this is but who cares, GO SEQUEL :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 March, 2014, 05:00:18 PM
Where you hear it from? Maybe it happens...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 March, 2014, 05:09:20 PM
It was on the 'Font of all Knowledge' the internet ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 March, 2014, 06:54:46 PM
Oh yes! Bring on Dredd 2!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 11 March, 2014, 07:40:33 PM
The Internet is such a reliable source.
But hey even rumour is a positive thing.
Roll on the sequel.




V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 11 March, 2014, 07:40:42 PM
A lot of movie speculation around at the moment with Batman V Superman and Marvel phase 3 possibles. It seems the rumour mill is becoming a valid marketing tool for Hollywood to exploit these days.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 11 March, 2014, 08:06:54 PM
Do I need to go and get my bucket of cold water? ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 March, 2014, 08:09:58 PM
Save it for Saturday when I record you saying some words, then edit it all about face to have you confirming a sequel is on its way :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 11 March, 2014, 08:16:06 PM
With news that some kind of 'Santa vs Vikings' shite has been green lit I can only hope the signatory madness spreads to a Dredd sequel...and better marketing this time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 March, 2014, 08:16:56 PM
San Diego Comic Con?

Same one with Loki appears on the stage last year?

So our Karl will appears as Dredd this year? ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dodsy on 11 March, 2014, 08:31:23 PM
God I hope it's true. I remember a lot of people getting excited around last years SDCC.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 11 March, 2014, 08:52:08 PM
Somebody Tweet Mr. Garland to extract a morsel of truth in this please  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 March, 2014, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 11 March, 2014, 08:06:54 PM
Do I need to go and get my bucket of cold water? ;)

Arm Mek-Quake with a water cannon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dodsy on 11 March, 2014, 09:16:17 PM
From an article by Ben smith on Bleeding Cool

QuoteAnd with Underbelly having proven itself there will be more from the world of movie DREDD. And after that? Even more new ventures.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/03/11/comic-stores-you-are-the-future-and-i-dont-think-you-know-it-2000ads-ben-smith-reaches-out-to-retailers/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/03/11/comic-stores-you-are-the-future-and-i-dont-think-you-know-it-2000ads-ben-smith-reaches-out-to-retailers/)

Wonder what the new movie Dredd stuff could be? A new IDW series possibly?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strontium71 on 11 March, 2014, 09:23:51 PM
There's already a thread started on this up there in the news section /\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 11 March, 2014, 10:50:23 PM
Please please please be true that a sequel announcement is imminent , can't take much more will they wont they. Just for my sanity I NEED to see Dredd once more grace the big screens  :lol: no other film has had such an effect on me. Think i need help lol
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 12 March, 2014, 04:12:45 AM
You're not the only one Beadle!  Wrong franchise but "make it so"!  That fantastic fan trailer has ramped up my need for sequel to even more ridiculous heights!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 12 March, 2014, 08:47:14 AM
(https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t31/s720x720/416130_410969725607648_1758753552_o.jpg)
source: Hoyts Australia
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=410969725607648&set=a.232441820127107.52132.191174674253822&type=3
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 March, 2014, 10:17:08 AM

Nice pic!

Is Sequel announcement something do with ECCC on 29th March? ( I hope!)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 12 March, 2014, 10:37:27 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 March, 2014, 10:17:08 AM
Is Sequel announcement something do with ECCC on 29th March? ( I hope!)

There is no sequel announcement. *Please* can everyone stop assuming there is because someone on the internet made something up or suffered from an overdose of wishful thinking - it will just disappoint everyone  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 12 March, 2014, 10:41:17 AM
Quote from: Molch-R on 12 March, 2014, 10:37:27 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 March, 2014, 10:17:08 AM
Is Sequel announcement something do with ECCC on 29th March? ( I hope!)

There is no sequel announcement. *Please* can everyone stop assuming there is because someone on the internet made something up or suffered from an overdose wishful thinking - it will just disappoint everyone  :(

SPIIIIIIINNNNNNNN!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 12 March, 2014, 10:46:12 AM
So you're saying there is a sequel announcement .. cool ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 12 March, 2014, 10:48:28 AM
So you're saying it's a PREQUEL?!? 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 March, 2014, 10:51:10 AM
Clever, using the old reverse psychology trick. So from what Molchr has said I have extrapolated that the sequel will be in our local multiplexes around March 2016. All I need now is another denial and I'll be able to get the exact date.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 12 March, 2014, 11:04:43 AM
*weeps*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 March, 2014, 11:08:31 AM
Quote from: Molch-R on 12 March, 2014, 11:04:43 AM
*weeps*

(http://i.imgur.com/227WYUz.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 12 March, 2014, 11:47:41 AM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SUyk6NUk8Us/UZ3rgCqyFyI/AAAAAAAAMAw/mdTK2WsDALI/s1600/theres-a-chance.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 March, 2014, 12:04:21 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 12 March, 2014, 11:04:43 AM
*weeps*

Just as the floods were subsiding.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 March, 2014, 02:23:58 PM
DNA/Reliance/Rebellion have really srewed up here!
Next time they make a Dredd film, they should make a really shit one and maybe cast Stallone and Shneider again then no one will want a sequel!   :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 12 March, 2014, 07:11:44 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUUU I have been without internet for a few days and I just read about the screening at ECCC.

I heard it's sold out but I am extremely extremely tempted to spend $150 just to fly to Seattle and watch a movie I've already seen, just cuz of the Q&A.

I hate you 2000AD, you have ruined my life and rational judgement

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdi06r7i7x1rg5bu3o1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 March, 2014, 07:44:20 PM
There won't be another DREDD Movie for the foreseeable future. It's  sad kitten but that's that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 12 March, 2014, 07:55:32 PM
(http://memecrunch.com/meme/150OQ/liessss/image.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 March, 2014, 09:32:16 PM
It would be cool to have some sort of official or more in the know word on what would need to happen for Dredd 2 to be possible. Like an accurate account of how much the film has made to date, and the whole distribution rights problem would be interesting to hear more on.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 12 March, 2014, 09:58:32 PM
I believe there should be a new movie, the fact that as it stands it may not happen soon won't negate that belief. What the money in LA/NY/London does is way beyond what I, as an individual, can influence or for that matter actualise. All I can aim for is collective pressure through like minded people, continually advocating and propogandising for the movie. It doesn't matter how unacheivable the goal may seem now....that isn't the point. You all must simply have belief and a purposive drive and it will happen. These things will be obtained through belief, intelligent focus and drive. Don't drop your heads or lie on your bellies; simply keep on agitqating as you have been and this will happen. Even if it does not, you'll be better as individuals and as a group for having the imigination and bravery for attempting it. Sorry for the agitprop Z
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: 8-Ball on 12 March, 2014, 10:53:35 PM
When it comes to the likelihood of a DREDD sequel I am reminded of the quote by the poet Robert Downing,
"Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?"

Until the great Grud herself comes down and says that a sequel is never gonna happen I intend to speculate on potential casting, characters, settings and plots until the cows are called in for their tea. It's all part of having an imagination.

However, there is a special level of Hell reserved for people who get people's hopes up by creating false rumours about apparently definite developments.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 13 March, 2014, 10:36:39 AM
Quite. It's all very well to have some hope, and to be happy with the strong (if not stellar) shiny disc sales. But "hey, I've heard that an announcement is coming" isn't helpful to anyone.

As for what would need to happen, beyond figuring out how to untangle the distribution rights, you essentially need someone or a group of someones to take a massive punt on a ~$30–$80m sequel to a film that totally bombed at the box office, and then did comparatively well in the home market. Despite the quality of Dredd, that's a massive, massive ask, especially if you don't want the series to compromise (i.e. attempt to gain a wider audience through 'friendlier' ratings).

Is there any recent precedent at all for this in cinema?

EDIT: On DVDs, there's a big reality check if you check out the stats over at The Numbers for DVD (http://www.the-numbers.com/home-market/dvd-sales/2013) and Blu-Ray (http://www.the-numbers.com/home-market/bluray-sales/2013). There, Dredd appears to have taken in a respectable $17m or so in shiny discs, but it's down in the 50s and 60s in terms of charting. For the type of film it is, that's pretty good, but I suspect it would have had to do Iron Man 3-style numbers to truly make studio execs sit up and take notice.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 13 March, 2014, 11:10:53 AM
Theres a market for anything, if you have a willing audience.

No studio would now expect Iron Man ratings, nor input the kind of money needed to get there, so a movie is a way away sadly.

Personally, I could see Dredd working well on a TV/ Cable/ Netflix way.
Id have thought raising budget for a TV based pilot- (with or without Karl) would be possible, the real world look DNA gave the film will work in its favour here, and TV Cop shows have basically always scored well in ratings.

CSi MegaCity One anyone ?


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 13 March, 2014, 11:16:10 AM
Quote from: Teivion on 13 March, 2014, 11:10:53 AM
Id have thought raising budget for a TV based pilot- (with or without Karl) would be possible, the real world look DNA gave the film will work in its favour here, and TV Cop shows have basically always scored well in ratings.

Ratings for the distinctly proto-Dredd-ish Almost Human don't back that assertion up, I'm afraid.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 13 March, 2014, 11:27:01 AM
Also the 'problem' of the psychic Anderson comes in too. Why watch a TV show when one of the main characters can solve the case Sherlock style just by touching something? Not much drama there. Dredd is still too unknown in the USA I think and Sci Fi is always expensive so it will be no no to TV.

The Comic is still where Judge Dredd lives and breathes the best so we'll have to settle for that for the moment. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 13 March, 2014, 12:15:19 PM
If they can't turn a worthwhile profit on all-ages highly-merchandised Clone Wars, spinning off from a franchise worth $4 Billion in box office alone, and have to dump a whole season on Netflix in one go, you have to wonder about the viability of a Dredd TV series.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: 8-Ball on 13 March, 2014, 12:55:30 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 13 March, 2014, 12:15:19 PM
If they can't turn a worthwhile profit on all-ages highly-merchandised Clone Wars, spinning off from a franchise worth $4 Billion in box office alone, and have to dump a whole season on Netflix in one go, you have to wonder about the viability of a Dredd TV series.

I was under the impression that Disney doesn't have any real interest in the prequel movies are more focused on producing stuff directly tied into the original trilogy. Vader = Good. Annakin = Bad.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 March, 2014, 01:13:59 PM
I thought it was more a case of sweeping away a lot of projects which had started development before the buy-out, including games and other TV shows.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 13 March, 2014, 01:18:01 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 March, 2014, 01:13:59 PM
I thought it was more a case of sweeping away a lot of projects which had started development before the buy-out, including games and other TV shows.

I'm sure that's the big factor, but there are no SW shows or films about at the mo, Rebels doesn't debut until the Fall Autumn, and Episode VII until December 2015.  If there was ad money in airing it, surely it'd be on 'regular' TV?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 13 March, 2014, 01:19:21 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 13 March, 2014, 01:18:01 PM
If there was ad money in airing it, surely it'd be on 'regular' TV?

I have a suspicion there might be a legal bag of hurt incoming from Cartoon Network if they tried that...

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 13 March, 2014, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 13 March, 2014, 01:19:21 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 13 March, 2014, 01:18:01 PM
If there was ad money in airing it, surely it'd be on 'regular' TV?

I have a suspicion there might be a legal bag of hurt incoming from Cartoon Network if they tried that...

Explain, please!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 13 March, 2014, 01:22:14 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 13 March, 2014, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 13 March, 2014, 01:19:21 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 13 March, 2014, 01:18:01 PM
If there was ad money in airing it, surely it'd be on 'regular' TV?

I have a suspicion there might be a legal bag of hurt incoming from Cartoon Network if they tried that...

Explain, please!

D'oh, I've just realised you may think I mean terrestrial/non-sub TV - I just mean TV, in which I'm including TCN.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 13 March, 2014, 01:39:12 PM
I was on the understanding Clone Wars and other halted spinoffs are based around a universe that Disney want to rewrite with the new movies, so Disney could have more control/ ownership over new characters etc?

Agreed with comments on a TV show Dredd, although Almost Human was a unique property without 30 years of fans and two movies behind it ( he says hopefully !)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: 8-Ball on 13 March, 2014, 01:56:09 PM
Dredd TV show - set in the movie universe but based in a Sector House a la The Pit. Yes please.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 13 March, 2014, 01:56:59 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 13 March, 2014, 01:39:12 PM
I was on the understanding Clone Wars and other halted spinoffs are based around a universe that Disney want to rewrite with the new movies, so Disney could have more control/ ownership over new characters etc?

Ach, ye are probably all quite correct, my brain is not in great shape today.  It's not the reasons for cancellation I'm arguing with, I just have a problem believing Disney would turn down a few quid - if such were available from a TV broadcast of a completed 13-episode season - when they have no replacement product to offer for 6-18 months. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Art on 13 March, 2014, 04:57:13 PM
Pretty sure it's only the "Expanded Universe" of novels and comics and such that is getting the chop - as a Lucasfilm created bridge between two movies "Clone Wars" is *probably* pretty safe. The same team is currently working on "Rebels", a similar series set between Revenge of the Sith and the first Star Wars.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 14 March, 2014, 03:30:36 AM
Good news, Urban's like what, in his forties? We still got another 30 years to make a movie where it'll still be canon for him to be playing Dredd. :-\  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 March, 2014, 10:57:30 AM
Some people have previously suggested that KickStarter https://www.kickstarter.com/  would be the way to get a second Film made.

I can't help feeling that this is unrealistic as the expense of DREDD's futuristic setting alone means far more money than enthusiasts such as ourselves could raise even with a Kickstarter campaign.

Judge Dredd was hardly box office gold either. You could claim both Movies failed to reach their potential. The cold ,hard arithmetic proves that.

The comic is all we have at the moment and apart from a reference to a fan made film project somewhere there definitely ain't gonna be a second Dredd Movie or TV show for the moment. Boo! :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 15 March, 2014, 12:52:30 PM
Straight from the horses mouth . . . is this the demise of our beloved Dredd movie thread after 700 plus discussions?  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richard on 15 March, 2014, 05:29:31 PM
Let's push for one thousand pages.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: junox on 15 March, 2014, 09:16:42 PM
people will always talk about  DREDD 2012  its a classic movie and  (CULT)

:o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 March, 2014, 06:51:14 PM
Wow!

Credit: Gabz

(http://i.imgur.com/q6ehdaR.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 17 March, 2014, 08:18:18 PM
Great image and very strong likeness. More.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 17 March, 2014, 08:50:58 PM
Bloody brilliant, although the image obscures the logo a bit...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 17 March, 2014, 09:11:21 PM
Yes, and I think it would be better if Anderson was painted a little brighter.  Other than that, it's ace!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 March, 2014, 09:44:34 PM
It's really great poster, I used it as wallpaper on my iPad, it is similar to one of my favourite posters;

(http://i.imgur.com/zzE2hcM.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 17 March, 2014, 11:32:58 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 17 March, 2014, 08:18:18 PM
Great image and very strong likeness. More.

Strong likeness? It's just a tweaked photo comp isn't it? A skilled one but more of a piece of montage/design than of actual illustration.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 18 March, 2014, 01:11:44 AM
 I wouldn't be so sure. Here's a closeup...

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j260/MalcolmKirk/dredd_regular_detail02_zps76223aa2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 18 March, 2014, 07:09:14 AM
yeah that's a drawin' - just quite an uncanny one. Beautiful poster.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 23 March, 2014, 11:26:59 AM
Any way back to DREDD 2 Movie news.

There isn't any!

Maybe DREDD is simply to fascist a character to be truly popular and the world depicted too worrying a depiction of where we're actually heading instead of where humans believe they are heading, a fairer, more socially equal future.

DREDD is the anti Star Trek our miseries writ large instead of our hopes. Long may he continue. Still IMHO the best and most potent warning of what awaits us when we really do fuck up big time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 23 March, 2014, 11:27:30 AM
must proof read more. ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 March, 2014, 08:11:09 PM
Heh, Our Karl is top bloke!

(http://i.imgur.com/R9vZ8qc.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 25 March, 2014, 04:03:30 AM
Saw that IDW sig on the FB page, totally awesome!

Haven't been posting much I know, but I made this quick little thing for fun :)

(https://31.media.tumblr.com/5f364e0f35c0a0c6148a53238b40bd8d/tumblr_n2z3qoLQHg1t4akyqo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 25 March, 2014, 11:57:28 AM
I'd watch that!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: 8-Ball on 25 March, 2014, 04:40:25 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 25 March, 2014, 11:57:28 AM
I'd watch that!   :thumbsup:

Seconded. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 25 March, 2014, 09:49:57 PM
Quote from: mimikeke on 25 March, 2014, 04:03:30 AM
Saw that IDW sig on the FB page, totally awesome!

Haven't been posting much I know, but I made this quick little thing for fun :)

(https://31.media.tumblr.com/5f364e0f35c0a0c6148a53238b40bd8d/tumblr_n2z3qoLQHg1t4akyqo1_400.jpg)

Thriced...If there were a Cursed Earth film ...this is how I see the DEATH BELT...(but with rats of course)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcUnE0tHcaI#t=27
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dash Decent on 26 March, 2014, 10:26:33 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 23 March, 2014, 11:26:59 AM
DREDD is the anti Star Trek

I'm surprised someone with an Anna Grant avatar would think anything but some show starting with B was the anti Trek!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 March, 2014, 02:22:29 PM
Great comments on voting for Amazon March madness! Dredd Vs The Godfather

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151909054780755&set=a.10150693480080755.383575.243253990754&type=1  (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151909054780755&set=a.10150693480080755.383575.243253990754&type=1)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Cookyman on 26 March, 2014, 04:31:44 PM
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/s526x395/1480738_10151970091991366_840236989_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 26 March, 2014, 04:37:00 PM
Before you all jump in, the person who did this has already explained why parts are the wrong way round, on facebook!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 26 March, 2014, 08:08:02 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 26 March, 2014, 02:22:29 PM
Great comments on voting for Amazon March madness! Dredd Vs The Godfather

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151909054780755&set=a.10150693480080755.383575.243253990754&type=1  (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151909054780755&set=a.10150693480080755.383575.243253990754&type=1)

Ha! I can't believe someone blamed Dredd being in the lead on a 'generation gap'! Doesn't he know the average age of the 2000AD readership?!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 March, 2014, 08:29:56 PM
Now it beat The Godfather ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 27 March, 2014, 03:50:21 AM
haha, makes a good headline.

"DREDD BETTER THAN THE GODFATHER AND PULP FICTION!"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 27 March, 2014, 03:55:10 AM
Quote from: Cookyman on 26 March, 2014, 04:31:44 PM
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/s526x395/1480738_10151970091991366_840236989_n.jpg)

Great pic. Can anyone link to the FB version?

And I like the Cursed Earth poster. It just needs '3D' somewhere in the title.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 27 March, 2014, 04:12:34 AM
Quote from: Stan on 27 March, 2014, 03:55:10 AM

And I like the Cursed Earth poster. It just needs '3D' somewhere in the title.

Nuuuuuuuuuuuu I don't want it to be in 3d...I'm pretty sure a significant portion of the budget on the first movie was spent on 3d cameras....rather they spent it on ramping up the Lawmaster or cool vfx.  :-\  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 28 March, 2014, 06:51:52 AM
Brilliant posters and I agrea with above post , would rather see more of lawmasters and mc1 shots they really set the tone of the last film  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 March, 2014, 07:31:21 AM
With this person wanting a sequel, we can't go wrong ;)

Hitler wants a Dredd sequel (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6w_BcKZqTao&sns=fb)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: 8-Ball on 28 March, 2014, 12:54:59 PM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 28 March, 2014, 06:51:52 AM
Brilliant posters and I agrea with above post , would rather see more of lawmasters and mc1 shots they really set the tone of the last film  :)

My heart is still set on a Cursed Earth-based sequel so a (fantasy) teaser poster featuring a severely bashed up Judge helmet half buried in the sand - with the MC1 skyline far off in the distance - would be right up my alley. Hey, we can all dream. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 March, 2014, 01:01:46 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 March, 2014, 07:31:21 AM
With this person wanting a sequel, we can't go wrong ;)

Hitler wants a Dredd sequel (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6w_BcKZqTao&sns=fb)


Haha! Well done Hitler! lol

Wonder who the Goth?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: 8-Ball on 28 March, 2014, 02:06:29 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 28 March, 2014, 01:01:46 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 March, 2014, 07:31:21 AM
With this person wanting a sequel, we can't go wrong ;)

Hitler wants a Dredd sequel (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6w_BcKZqTao&sns=fb)


Haha! Well done Hitler! lol

Wonder who the Goth?

Sorry, but unless you are in one of those hideous far-right groups that is one of most unintentionally inappropriate comments ever. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 28 March, 2014, 02:20:39 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 March, 2014, 07:31:21 AM
With this person wanting a sequel, we can't go wrong ;)

Hitler wants a Dredd sequel (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6w_BcKZqTao&sns=fb)


Brilliant, one of the best of the thousands of Downfalls I've seen.  Did you make that yourself, CF? 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 28 March, 2014, 06:18:26 PM
There's a real battle royale brewing up on Amazon.com's Facebook site, where the LOTR's trilogy is duking it out with Dredd!

Get on there now and vote Dredd-let's not let those LOTR drokkers walk away with the top spot!   :)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151914356730755&set=a.10150693480080755.383575.243253990754&type=1&theater
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 28 March, 2014, 07:09:51 PM
I did a rough count, and so far it is 3 Dredd votes for every LOTR one. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 March, 2014, 07:15:12 PM
Now people see that Dredd is one of few enjoyable repeatable films!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 28 March, 2014, 09:23:44 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 28 March, 2014, 07:09:51 PM
I did a rough count, and so far it is 3 Dredd votes for every LOTR one. :D
There has been a surge in LOTR votes.




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 28 March, 2014, 10:54:50 PM
They like 4 hour films, they've got a lot of stamina.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 29 March, 2014, 11:04:34 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 28 March, 2014, 10:54:50 PM
They like 4 hour films, they've got a lot of stamina.

About three of those hours are shots of people running over landscapes. Take those out, and the films would probably be shorter than Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 29 March, 2014, 01:40:29 PM
The Russian Hobbit movie was roughly the length of Dredd. It was also better than the Jackson films.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 March, 2014, 06:12:59 PM



Karl Urban at MegaCon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTUZgXGohMU&t=1m29s) 2014.




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 30 March, 2014, 02:45:06 AM
It's the big reveal for Dredd 2 :) or he will announce his robot cop series on the telly is getting a series two!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 30 March, 2014, 03:29:52 AM
quote from today's panel at ECCC:
"why dredd is so cool? - you can show up hungover, red eyed, and nobody would notice"
:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 30 March, 2014, 05:33:49 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 March, 2014, 06:12:59 PM
Karl Urban at MegaCon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTUZgXGohMU&t=1m29s) 2014.

20 mins into this and the love he has for Dredd is great.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 March, 2014, 05:36:22 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 30 March, 2014, 05:33:49 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 March, 2014, 06:12:59 PM
Karl Urban at MegaCon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTUZgXGohMU&t=1m29s) 2014.

20 mins into this and the love he has for Dredd is great.

What did he said? Sorry as no subtitles on it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 30 March, 2014, 06:50:14 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 30 March, 2014, 05:36:22 PM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 30 March, 2014, 05:33:49 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 March, 2014, 06:12:59 PM
Karl Urban at MegaCon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTUZgXGohMU&t=1m29s) 2014.

20 mins into this and the love he has for Dredd is great.

What did he said? Sorry as no subtitles on it.

Goaty, at about 20 mins in he is asked how difficult it was to play Dredd when all you had to act with was his mouth.  He said it was very difficult, and although he made some firm choices about how to play the role, he was anxious about it.  However, he goes on to say he was pleased with the result, and Alex Garland was correct to be respectful with the source material and keep the helmet on. He said once the helmet is off, it is no longer Judge Dredd, [and then with a cheeky look] no disrespect to any other actor who may have played him.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 March, 2014, 08:21:19 PM
Thanks Monkey!

Our Karl still top bloke! And cheeky hehe!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 30 March, 2014, 08:35:33 PM
Here's another video and don't worry the sound is only missing for a few seconds. By the way Goaty, you don't get a mention :'(

KARL TALKS, WE LISTEN (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XriQFfZ9nIc)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 30 March, 2014, 11:21:53 PM
The Emerald City Comic Con vid, Dredd is mentioned a few times throughout but if you skip to the 52 minute point he talks to Green Lantern about it and does his Dredd voice and also Stallone's Dredd voice, which is hilarious!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 30 March, 2014, 11:55:36 PM
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/0c6ab4b111ed70c35e02a47cb867c6f7/tumblr_n39ufzIQnm1qfidh8o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 March, 2014, 12:40:13 AM
Someone mention this;

-"Uhm, out of the Lord of the Rings and Star Trek movies, what is your favorite thing you've done, like scene, or...?"
- "DREDD!"


Awesome if it true!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 March, 2014, 01:35:23 AM
Yeah he says that but in the MegaCon one at 29:35 he says to one person, in the Dredd voice, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CREEP! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 March, 2014, 08:59:38 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 March, 2014, 01:35:23 AM
Yeah he says that but in the MegaCon one at 29:35 he says to one person, in the Dredd voice, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CREEP! :D

Haha! Awesome! He really like be Dredd again, someone getting him the sequel, goddammit!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 March, 2014, 11:08:42 AM

Official petition for a DREDD sequel has reached 100,000 signatures!

Well done!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 31 March, 2014, 12:44:56 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 31 March, 2014, 11:08:42 AM

Official petition for a DREDD sequel has reached 100,000 signatures!

Well done!

That's the sequel sewn up!   ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: 8-Ball on 31 March, 2014, 01:26:27 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 31 March, 2014, 12:44:56 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 31 March, 2014, 11:08:42 AM

Official petition for a DREDD sequel has reached 100,000 signatures!

Well done!

That's the sequel sewn up!   ;)

Queue for the tickets starts behind me. (If only.) :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 31 March, 2014, 02:57:55 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 31 March, 2014, 11:08:42 AM

Official petition for a DREDD sequel has reached 100,000 signatures!

Well done!
Take this as red that we are going to get a sequel. Get in.
I hear they are already negotiating through the script.
;)




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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 01 April, 2014, 02:58:07 AM
Check twitter out for a recent development on Dredd 2. A most unlikely backer is funding the sequel, soon to be announced :-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 April, 2014, 03:06:43 AM
Must be Goaty, if only it wasn't mentioned on this day, of all days ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 01 April, 2014, 03:08:11 AM
Quote from: dracula1 on 01 April, 2014, 02:58:07 AM
Check twitter out for a recent development on Dredd 2. A most unlikely backer is funding the sequel, soon to be announced :-)

Is it me?

http://youtu.be/fTN2YWyyE_E
(Any excuse to wheel the ol' video out again!)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 01 April, 2014, 03:14:55 AM
It's still the 31st for me here, but that post is just cruel.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 01 April, 2014, 10:47:15 AM
The tweet is confirmed as Sly Stallone and his expendables a production team will be involved in Dredd 2 the Dark Judges. Stallone is confirmed as playing Judge Mortis.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 April, 2014, 10:45:25 PM
Make a DREDD Sequel on Facebook just post this - anyone got idea?

We have a special video message from a certain person that was involved in DREDD. Want to see it? SHARE this post and we'll show you the video once it gets 1,000 shares! (this is not an April Fool's joke and we promise it'll be worth it)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 April, 2014, 10:48:10 PM
Yes!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 April, 2014, 10:51:27 PM
If it's MVK Goaty Commando Forces Joe Soap, I'll burn down the internet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 April, 2014, 11:01:19 PM
I forgot what Joe Soap looks like now...?  :|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 April, 2014, 11:58:59 PM



If anyone needs me, I'll be in my trailer.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 April, 2014, 06:15:29 AM
Well, well, well Goaty. I notice you didn't share the Dredd sequel article, so we could see whatever the video is (which will probably be from something from ECCC anyway). All this time you've been pretending to be a fan, what a disgrace. What will our Karl say ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 02 April, 2014, 07:52:25 AM
goddamnit the video is going to be posted during UK morning hours isn't it >:(

someone call me and wake me up in the middle of the night when it gets posted lol  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 02 April, 2014, 10:05:02 AM
Alex is in post-production digitally erasing Goaty's name as I type. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mogzilla on 02 April, 2014, 10:08:29 AM
poor molcher! I blame dan slott , he spent a year denying peter parker would be back and he's dead! and that turned out to be a fib so molcher is fighting a losing battle ! ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 April, 2014, 10:11:57 AM
Here it is!

It appears after I finally click Share.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-rE79vRsdU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-rE79vRsdU)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 02 April, 2014, 10:26:21 AM
Quote from: mogzilla on 02 April, 2014, 10:08:29 AM
molcher is fighting a losing battle ! ;)

You're going to have to explain that one to me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 02 April, 2014, 10:27:32 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 02 April, 2014, 10:11:57 AM
Here it is!

It appears after I finally click Share.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-rE79vRsdU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-rE79vRsdU)

Sweet!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 April, 2014, 10:30:20 AM
And subtitled (CC), I love you, Molch-R!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 02 April, 2014, 02:22:49 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 02 April, 2014, 10:30:20 AM
And subtitled (CC), I love you, Molch-R!

I love you too, Goaty.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 02 April, 2014, 03:36:52 PM
My goodness – how awesome is Karl Urban!?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mogzilla on 02 April, 2014, 03:37:32 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 02 April, 2014, 10:26:21 AM
Quote from: mogzilla on 02 April, 2014, 10:08:29 AM
molcher is fighting a losing battle ! ;)

You're going to have to explain that one to me.

by denying all knowledge of a sequel...simples
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 April, 2014, 03:41:00 PM

Quote from: mogzilla on 02 April, 2014, 03:37:32 PM
by denying all knowledge of a sequel...simples


I don't believe he has.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 02 April, 2014, 03:43:58 PM
Yeah, I really haven't.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mogzilla on 02 April, 2014, 04:07:34 PM
sooo your not denying a sequel :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 April, 2014, 04:11:07 PM
Our Karl is filming Star Trek at the start of next year, which he said in those talks at ECCC. Now if my calculations are correct, come San Diego it'll all be announced and he'll film DREDD2 and Season 2 of Almost Human back to back, straight after.

I think that's what Molch-R is trying to say :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 April, 2014, 04:12:46 PM
Sounds like it, John.

So at moment he is available...? for Dredd short?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 April, 2014, 04:14:04 PM
It's all deathly quiet on the Adi Shankar short, so who knows what is in it but it must be less than a month away now!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 April, 2014, 04:31:17 PM
Let hope it was unexpecting surprise!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 02 April, 2014, 04:32:42 PM
Quote from: mogzilla on 02 April, 2014, 04:07:34 PM
sooo your not denying a sequel

That's not what he said. And it's not what you said. You said he was denying any knowledge of a sequel, implying that there was knowledge to be had, and that MOLCH-R was denying it.

Given that even 'Our'* Karl hasn't suggested that there is anything more happening than "conversations"** I'm not sure what Sooper Sekrit Inside Info you think Michael has and is withholding.

As far as I can tell, the movie, box office disaster notwithstanding, has been incredibly good for the reputation of Dredd as a piece of IP and for 2000AD as a brand. If you think Michael wouldn't want to see a sequel as good as, or better than, the first movie then you are directly out of your fucking mind.

But, given the frantic straw-clutching that went on after the movie's release, where Garland's off-the-cuff "at least $50M in the States for there to be a chance of a sequel" was variously translated by posters on this forum into "$50M guarantees a sequel", "$50M worldwide guarantees a sequel", "can we have a sequel if we add in worldwide Blu-Ray and DVD sales and it gets to $50M?", and so on, some management of expectations was necessary.

You can be mad at Michael for pissing on your chips, but if you think he didn't want the film to be a massive success, wasn't as disappointed as every single one of you when it didn't kick ass at the box office, and wouldn't have loved to see a trilogy of (effectively) massive cinema adverts for a property he's responsible for promoting, then you're all fucking idiots.

Bah.

Jim


*Really? Seriously?

** Which, let's face it, could be:

Alex Garland: "Damn shame we'll never get to make a Dredd sequel."

Karl Urban: "Yeah."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mogzilla on 02 April, 2014, 04:52:50 PM
over reacting much?

  I was teasing... sorry if that didn't come across in a dredd thread that has dragged on and on yes we want to see a sequel and im sure molch would as any fan would. calling me/us fucking idiots is a tad childish .its an internet fan forum were we can speculate rumour monger etc etc etc you don't agree then don't read it and don't post defamatory comments,just go away and rant on the political thread and leave us nerds be.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 02 April, 2014, 04:59:05 PM
Quote from: mogzilla on 02 April, 2014, 04:52:50 PM
over reacting much?

Grow the fuck up.

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 02 April, 2014, 04:59:13 PM
Quote from: mogzilla on 02 April, 2014, 04:52:50 PM
over reacting much?

What you have to bear in mind, mogzilla, is that you were away from the forum for a long time - there are 781 pages of this. The repeated calls for sanity, protestations of no definite sequel and squashing of rumours for the past two years has worn the nerves of Jim, Richmond, Molcher and the like paper-thin where this subject is concerned.

On an unrelated subject, the gist of Jim's post above seems to be that a sequel is definately a foregone conclusion. Off to social media I go...!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 April, 2014, 05:00:18 PM
Seems like Hitler needs to say something ;)

HITLER WANTS A DREDD SEQUEL (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdIpoE2LEps)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mogzilla on 02 April, 2014, 05:05:54 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 02 April, 2014, 04:59:13 PM
Quote from: mogzilla on 02 April, 2014, 04:52:50 PM
over reacting much?

What you have to bear in mind, mogzilla, is that you were away from the forum for a long time - there are 781 pages of this. The repeated calls for sanity, protestations of no definite sequel and squashing of rumours for the past two years has worn the nerves of Jim, Richmond, Molcher and the like paper-thin where this subject is concerned.

On an unrelated subject, the gist of Jim's post above seems to be that a sequel is definately a foregone conclusion. Off to social media I go...!

ok a fair point dark jimbo it was an attempt at humour which failed and I apologise to molcher for any offense which was not intended  and if its causing that much of a headache why not lock the thread?

and Campbell... ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 April, 2014, 05:17:41 PM
Good evening and here's the message from Karl Urban to DREDD fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-rE79vRsdU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-rE79vRsdU)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 02 April, 2014, 05:19:28 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 02 April, 2014, 04:59:13 PM
On an unrelated subject, the gist of Jim's post above seems to be that a sequel is definately a foregone conclusion. Off to social media I go...!

I've said too much!

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 02 April, 2014, 06:17:25 PM
Sequel or no, this thread is still mightily entertaining! :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 02 April, 2014, 07:06:27 PM
I hear that if we can get Jim to call just 100,000 people a cunt, they'll make a sequel and a spin-off about Two Tonne Tony Tubbs.  I reckon it's in the bag.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 02 April, 2014, 07:17:14 PM
I'm sure we must be halfway there already.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 02 April, 2014, 07:35:18 PM
Hmm.  I don't think any of this reflects well on the forum at a time when people may be coming here as a result of their interest in the Dredd campaign.  If reading this page was my first experience of checking out the forum I can safely say I wouldn't be back again.

Karl Urban has been incredibly positive about the prospect of a Dredd sequel and stated that our support helps.  It would be nice to see that kind of positivity here rather than seeing people turning on one another.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 April, 2014, 07:39:36 PM
Well said ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 02 April, 2014, 07:45:10 PM
Yeah, Mr Urban is the ultimate troll now, it seems. He's not being positive because he believes it can happen. He's just blowing smoke up our collective arses.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 02 April, 2014, 07:49:08 PM
So if he wasn't being positive or just 'managing expectations' that would make you happier?

And he'd likely get stick for that from some quarters as well.

You can't please everyone.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 April, 2014, 08:39:31 PM
How awesome is that?

2000AD post it on Facebook;

For his fantastic performance in DREDD and all the amazing work he's done since, it was a real privilege for us to present Karl Urban with his Krill Tro Thargo award last weekend - translated it means "Honoured by Tharg" and is given to those Earthlets who have helped advance the cause of Thrill-Power! ALL HAIL THARG!

(http://i.imgur.com/DGCsO5l.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: 8-Ball on 02 April, 2014, 08:59:22 PM
I'll be honest with you folks, I have started to shy away from posting anything positive about the possibility of a DREDD sequel. Mainly because I just know someone is going to come along and say "Dream on kid. Ain't gonna happen." And you know what? It probably won't. We had our shot and the numbers just weren't there. A noble failure but still a failure. Them's the breaks.

And yet, and yet... I would like to think that this forum is a safe place for people to speculate (harmlessly?) on what could be - if the stars align in our favour once more.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 02 April, 2014, 10:28:29 PM
Quote from: Eightball on 02 April, 2014, 08:59:22 PM
I'll be honest with you folks, I have started to shy away from posting anything positive about the possibility of a DREDD sequel. Mainly because I just know someone is going to come along and say "Dream on kid. Ain't gonna happen." And you know what? It probably won't. We had our shot and the numbers just weren't there. A noble failure but still a failure. Them's the breaks.

And yet, and yet... I would like to think that this forum is a safe place for people to speculate (harmlessly?) on what could be - if the stars align in our favour once more.

Be positive and if no one likes, who cares?...stand your ground, it might not win you a sequel, but it's damned sight more joyful to read than anything else.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 02 April, 2014, 10:31:09 PM
The budget for Dredd 2 may have to be a bit tighter than the first one. Just to let Karl and the gang know if they're pushed for somewhere to film it they can use my flat for just £1. They'll have to work around my schedule though. And the wife's.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 02 April, 2014, 10:48:42 PM
If I ever win £50mil, the first thing I'm going to do is make a sequel. There are plenty of quarries in Wales that'd serve as the Cursed Earth. Lots of Rad Storms and mutants too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 April, 2014, 11:23:30 PM

A report from the Q&A at the Seattle DREDD screening (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/04/02/eccc-14-dredd-2-is-next-on-alex-garlands-books/):

"When asked if he would ever consider doing a Thomas Jane style fan movie, Urban said that he would jump at the chance to get back into the costume, but only with the approval from the comics' and the movie's creators.  This naturally led to a question about a second Dredd movie.

Urban reported that conversations had been going on about a sequel. After the somewhat disappointing theatrical performance, the studio had no plans, but now that it has picked up on disc sales and rentals, they are working with the producers, and trying to make it happen.

As for a timeline, Urban said that it will be the next film on Garland's books, once he has completed work on Ex-Machina (his directorial debut).  He has a trilogy planned in his head, and it is likely that the next film will be set in the Cursed Earth."





Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 02 April, 2014, 11:44:47 PM
As a mopey gothropomorph once said: "What power would Hell have if those here imprisoned were not able to dream?". 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 02 April, 2014, 11:47:24 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 April, 2014, 11:23:30 PM
As for a timeline, Urban said that it will be the next film on Garland's books, once he has completed work on Ex-Machina (his directorial debut).[/i]

Um, that's not what he said at all. Oh bloody hell - this has already morphed into 'there's definitely going to be a sequel'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 April, 2014, 11:52:45 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 02 April, 2014, 11:47:24 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 April, 2014, 11:23:30 PM
As for a timeline, Urban said that it will be the next film on Garland's books, once he has completed work on Ex-Machina (his directorial debut).[/i]

Um, that's not what he said at all. Oh bloody hell...

That's bleedingcool for ya...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 April, 2014, 12:01:02 AM
GET IN!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 April, 2014, 12:01:51 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 April, 2014, 12:01:02 AM
GET IN!

Ditto
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 03 April, 2014, 12:02:09 AM
Quote from: Molch-R on 02 April, 2014, 11:47:24 PM
'there's definitely going to be a sequel'.

nice one Molch.



V
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 April, 2014, 12:05:01 AM
Time to post that link EVERYWHERE!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 03 April, 2014, 12:24:17 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 April, 2014, 11:23:30 PM
Urban reported that conversations had been going on about a sequel. After the somewhat disappointing theatrical performance, the studio had no plans, but now that it has picked up on disc sales and rentals, they are working with the producers, and trying to make it happen.

As for a timeline, Urban said that it will be the next film on Garland's books, once he has completed work on Ex-Machina (his directorial debut).  He has a trilogy planned in his head, and it is likely that the next film will be set in the Cursed Earth.

Thankfully modified to:

As for a timeline, Urban said that if there was ever a sequel, it would have to be after Garland had completed work on Ex-Machina (his directorial debut).  But he does have a trilogy planned in his head, and it is likely that the next film will be set in the Cursed Earth.  Urban is excited about that prospect, and was really impressed with the fan trailer for a Crused Earth Dredd movie that he saw.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 April, 2014, 12:28:23 AM
It seems that an audience member heard it different but who cares about facts ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 April, 2014, 12:32:21 AM


Mek-Quake off stand-by.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 03 April, 2014, 12:40:45 AM
Quote from: Molch-R on 03 April, 2014, 12:24:17 AM
Thankfully modified to:

Molch-R: considering all the crap you have to deal with, I hope you know that your very hard work -- correcting the "facts" -- is much appreciated.

That said, I still swear I heard you confirm (for definite, in writing) that Dredd 2: Holiday in Luna-1 has already been green-lit and made in secret, and is ready for release next Thursday.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 April, 2014, 12:42:13 AM
Quote from: Molch-R on 03 April, 2014, 12:24:17 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 April, 2014, 11:23:30 PM
Urban reported that conversations had been going on about a sequel. After the somewhat disappointing theatrical performance, the studio had no plans, but now that it has picked up on disc sales and rentals, they are working with the producers, and trying to make it happen.

As for a timeline, Urban said that it will be the next film on Garland's books, once he has completed work on Ex-Machina (his directorial debut).  He has a trilogy planned in his head, and it is likely that the next film will be set in the Cursed Earth.



Thankfully modified to:

As for a timeline, Urban said that if there was ever a sequel, it would have to be after Garland had completed work on Ex-Machina (his directorial debut).  But he does have a trilogy planned in his head, and it is likely that the next film will be set in the Cursed Earth.  Urban is excited about that prospect, and was really impressed with the fan trailer for a Crused Earth Dredd movie that he saw.


Thanks for the update Molch-R, hate to spread misinformation!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 03 April, 2014, 01:28:22 AM
that was the fastest high followed by a low I've felt in a long time  :D

good we cleared that up though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 April, 2014, 06:13:37 AM


Just the facts (this time).

The Dredd Q&A at Seattle Cinerama:


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=smjjKvQSZuE (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=smjjKvQSZuE)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 April, 2014, 07:26:15 AM
Where's the rest of it. That just ends mid sentence on Jock!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 April, 2014, 08:24:01 AM
It's like some unholy combination of April Fool and Groundhog Day.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 03 April, 2014, 08:46:59 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 03 April, 2014, 08:24:01 AM
It's like some unholy combination of April Fool and Groundhog Day.

"Oh, They say our love won't make more Dredd
Before it's shot the budget's in the red..."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 April, 2014, 09:05:58 AM
What do I miss?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 03 April, 2014, 09:07:31 AM
This thread is a fucking train wreck! :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 April, 2014, 09:23:36 AM
Good and honest article.

Dredd and Dredd 2, 18 months on
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd/29958/dredd-and-dredd-2-18-months-on (http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd/29958/dredd-and-dredd-2-18-months-on)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 April, 2014, 09:44:30 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 03 April, 2014, 09:23:36 AM
Good and honest article.

That's excellent. Good link.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 03 April, 2014, 09:47:58 AM
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/c3695a8fd56b9d997a2aadcf9c7fa8f6/tumblr_n3845w8aZJ1tv7tl2o1_250.gif) (http://24.media.tumblr.com/7253969d833f97e8fd99f3ffc9929c60/tumblr_n3845w8aZJ1tv7tl2o2_250.gif)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/c0d87f84d00516c4cfbeb468d65c0a24/tumblr_n3845w8aZJ1tv7tl2o4_250.gif)(http://31.media.tumblr.com/1bf411302a89e709b2f59f0c2f5e8a9c/tumblr_n3845w8aZJ1tv7tl2o3_250.gif)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/0c42db09ccf8476523d132542e9898d6/tumblr_n3845w8aZJ1tv7tl2o5_250.gif)(http://24.media.tumblr.com/0a1cc7df6bb6609bdbfa4d8bd58fb27b/tumblr_n3845w8aZJ1tv7tl2o6_250.gif)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/705d2c821804197ba080e9b89e9033da/tumblr_n3845w8aZJ1tv7tl2o8_250.gif)(http://25.media.tumblr.com/e8f788dbe154fb63b114e315c76b5e87/tumblr_n3845w8aZJ1tv7tl2o7_250.gif)

Preeeeeeeeeeettty sure he was talking about Dredd  ::) right? right?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 April, 2014, 09:49:28 AM
Another excellent but honest article.

DREDD AND THE FILMMAKER TO FAN DISCONNECT

http://www.twoshotstothehead.com/comics/02/04/2014/dredd-filmmaker-fan-disconnect/ (http://www.twoshotstothehead.com/comics/02/04/2014/dredd-filmmaker-fan-disconnect/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 03 April, 2014, 10:34:21 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 April, 2014, 07:26:15 AM
Where's the rest of it. That just ends mid sentence on Jock!

Oh FFS, I spent all night uploading that damn thing - why does it cut off like that?! :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 03 April, 2014, 10:43:34 AM
We demand a sequel (to the panel video).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 03 April, 2014, 10:45:47 AM
Very good article talking about what went wrong.  Goaty, you are an article finding machine  :P

Welp, if anything, I can tell you the movie got me reading (and spending on) 2000AD.  I could probably name about a dozen friends who definitely don't fit the demographic -girls, in the US no less - buying the prog, megazine, and IDW offshoots (and online subscriptions) because of the movie.  And actively, consistently posting about it to their online audience.  I got 500+ reblogs/likes just in the past month and I've only just started posting about Dredd on tumblr...a lot of these other friends have followers in the hundreds or thousands.

It was something mentioned in the recent ECCC 2000AD panel with Molch-R - the problem of reaching the US audience.

I had never heard of 2000AD before the movie and the old Dredd film was just something I vaguely remembered watching as a kid.  A lot of credit has to be given to 2000AD PR for some really amazing marketing with the movie tie-in, Underbelly, and the IDW stuff, even if a lot of people here groan about them  :lol: You can see more and more US comic fans becoming aware of the property and, if they like IDW/Underbelly, possibly delving further into the actual progs/megs.

So....maybe....even in the far future....there may be enough US (and British) interest to make another Dredd film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 03 April, 2014, 12:54:00 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 02 April, 2014, 07:06:27 PM
I hear that if we can get Jim to call just 100,000 people a cunt, they'll make a sequel and a spin-off about Two Tonne Tony Tubbs.  I reckon it's in the bag.

Wouldn't we have to go BACK in time to get to 100,000?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 April, 2014, 01:01:30 PM
Mike,

You can put a hotlink to Pt 2 - not ideal but since you can't amend the video without losing the original viewers/links that's about the only solution I can think of.

I'm not sure why it would cut off like that though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 03 April, 2014, 03:01:18 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 03 April, 2014, 01:01:30 PM
Mike,

You can put a hotlink to Pt 2 - not ideal but since you can't amend the video without losing the original viewers/links that's about the only solution I can think of.

I'm not sure why it would cut off like that though.

Nah, have deleted and trying again...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 April, 2014, 03:07:05 PM
That's just so they can change the bit when Karl confirms the sequel, with a bit of cgi skills ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 April, 2014, 03:09:58 PM
Add CGI of Judge helmet when you can?  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 April, 2014, 04:05:52 PM
Quote from: mimikeke on 03 April, 2014, 10:45:47 AM
Very good article talking about what went wrong.  Goaty, you are an article finding machine  :P

Welp, if anything, I can tell you the movie got me reading (and spending on) 2000AD.  I could probably name about a dozen friends who definitely don't fit the demographic -girls, in the US no less - buying the prog, megazine, and IDW offshoots (and online subscriptions) because of the movie.  And actively, consistently posting about it to their online audience.  I got 500+ reblogs/likes just in the past month and I've only just started posting about Dredd on tumblr...a lot of these other friends have followers in the hundreds or thousands.

It was something mentioned in the recent ECCC 2000AD panel with Molch-R - the problem of reaching the US audience.

I had never heard of 2000AD before the movie and the old Dredd film was just something I vaguely remembered watching as a kid.  A lot of credit has to be given to 2000AD PR for some really amazing marketing with the movie tie-in, Underbelly, and the IDW stuff, even if a lot of people here groan about them  :lol: You can see more and more US comic fans becoming aware of the property and, if they like IDW/Underbelly, possibly delving further into the actual progs/megs.

So....maybe....even in the far future....there may be enough US (and British) interest to make another Dredd film.

It's great to hear that the readership is growing in the U.S, particularly from women and I'm sure that Urban's handsome visage and fan friendly demeanour is also partially responsible for and something else he should be thanked for in increasing the awareness of 2000AD worldwide!   :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 03 April, 2014, 04:17:29 PM
Sorted now...

Part 1: http://youtu.be/vitm9XgMPKY
Part 2: http://youtu.be/h4fnqohGGKw
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 03 April, 2014, 04:17:50 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 03 April, 2014, 12:40:45 AM
Molch-R: considering all the crap you have to deal with, I hope you know that your very hard work -- correcting the "facts" -- is much appreciated.

Thank you :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 03 April, 2014, 04:27:32 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 03 April, 2014, 04:17:50 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 03 April, 2014, 12:40:45 AM
Molch-R: considering all the crap you have to deal with, I hope you know that your very hard work -- correcting the "facts" -- is much appreciated.

Thank you :)

A. Cow clearly has his sights set on the premiere.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 04 April, 2014, 12:15:36 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 03 April, 2014, 04:27:32 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 03 April, 2014, 04:17:50 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 03 April, 2014, 12:40:45 AM
Molch-R: considering all the crap you have to deal with, I hope you know that your very hard work -- correcting the "facts" -- is much appreciated.
Thank you :)
A. Cow clearly has his sights set on the premiere.

Bovine sycophancy works every time.    :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 04 April, 2014, 08:19:02 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 03 April, 2014, 04:05:52 PM
I'm sure that Urban's handsome visage and fan friendly demeanour is also partially responsible for and something else he should be thanked for in increasing the awareness of 2000AD worldwide!   :)

Oh, definitely.  I met quite a few women at the Dallas con who had a, shall we say, creepy level of fanaticism towards Urban.  The lady whose video Molch-R pulled audio from for the Dredd: America reading was one of them.  When I was standing in line to get my poster signed she was telling me about her erotica she was writing about him  :o :o  :'(  I'm sure Molch-R had fun scrolling thru her tumblr for the video.

I was more won over by the fact I was mentally screaming 'f yeah' every time Dredd shot someone  ::)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 04 April, 2014, 09:06:11 AM
Quote from: mimikeke on 04 April, 2014, 08:19:02 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 03 April, 2014, 04:05:52 PM
I'm sure that Urban's handsome visage and fan friendly demeanour is also partially responsible for and something else he should be thanked for in increasing the awareness of 2000AD worldwide!   :)


I was more won over by the fact I was mentally screaming 'f yeah' every time Dredd shot someone  ::)

That's the spirit!   :) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 04 April, 2014, 09:10:45 AM
Quote from: mimikeke on 04 April, 2014, 08:19:02 AM
I was more won over by the fact I was mentally screaming 'f yeah' every time Dredd shot someone  ::)

Good on you!

But you maybe not like this, as it would send you mental!

Every Death in "Dredd" (Chronological Order) [SPOILERS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbHG2DtePko (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbHG2DtePko)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 04 April, 2014, 10:35:17 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 04 April, 2014, 09:10:45 AM
Quote from: mimikeke on 04 April, 2014, 08:19:02 AM
I was more won over by the fact I was mentally screaming 'f yeah' every time Dredd shot someone  ::)

Good on you!

But you maybe not like this, as it would send you mental!

Every Death in "Dredd" (Chronological Order) [SPOILERS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbHG2DtePko (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbHG2DtePko)

That brought my OCD out. He included the two kids Dredd stunned!  The title of the vid should be 'Every Death in "Dredd" plus two Stuns'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 04 April, 2014, 11:28:10 AM
Quote from: mimikeke on 04 April, 2014, 08:19:02 AM
I'm sure Molch-R had fun scrolling thru her tumblr for the video.

"Fun."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 04 April, 2014, 01:54:26 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 04 April, 2014, 10:35:17 AM
That brought my OCD out.

I think you mean CDO (all the letters in neat alphabetical order, as they should be).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 04 April, 2014, 04:35:48 PM
It's interesting (and great) to hear about more women discovering Dredd. Really, that movie had no obvious right to bang the equality drum as it did, in the sense that it was, fundamentally, looking like being a fairly dumb and gritty '80s-style action flick. But through Garland and co., we got a smart and gritty '80s-style action flick, where Anderson was a cop (rather than being dressed in some kind of different uniform that was somehow more revealing), the main villain was a woman, and the Chief Judge was a black woman, because, well, why not?

It's such a pity at the time that this wasn't nearly evident enough. People were bafflingly banging on about how Skyfall was some kind of great movie in the equality stakes, but only a handful of women (such as Laura Sneddon) cottoned on to Dredd, hence, presumably, figures from the US stating that the audience was something like 85% male.

Here's hoping more women continue to discover the film and the comic, that the comic itself doubles down on women contributing, and that if a Dredd 2 ever happens that it's just as pro-equality in terms of casting and approach as the first.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 04 April, 2014, 05:06:18 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 04 April, 2014, 11:28:10 AM
Quote from: mimikeke on 04 April, 2014, 08:19:02 AM
I'm sure Molch-R had fun scrolling thru her tumblr for the video.

"Fun."

I'm sorry, I meant to put that in quotes too  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 04 April, 2014, 08:48:58 PM
From fb:

(https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t31.0-8/q81/s720x720/1907699_429987677137702_157755251_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: QuickQuag on 04 April, 2014, 08:50:35 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 04 April, 2014, 04:35:48 PM
It's interesting (and great) to hear about more women discovering Dredd. Really, that movie had no obvious right to bang the equality drum as it did, in the sense that it was, fundamentally, looking like being a fairly dumb and gritty '80s-style action flick. But through Garland and co., we got a smart and gritty '80s-style action flick, where Anderson was a cop (rather than being dressed in some kind of different uniform that was somehow more revealing), the main villain was a woman, and the Chief Judge was a black woman, because, well, why not?

It's such a pity at the time that this wasn't nearly evident enough. People were bafflingly banging on about how Skyfall was some kind of great movie in the equality stakes, but only a handful of women (such as Laura Sneddon) cottoned on to Dredd, hence, presumably, figures from the US stating that the audience was something like 85% male.

Here's hoping more women continue to discover the film and the comic, that the comic itself doubles down on women contributing, and that if a Dredd 2 ever happens that it's just as pro-equality in terms of casting and approach as the first.

Not obviously, no, which makes me wonder whether an alternative trailer from Anderson's POV might have been a smart move as well?

I've heard the movie itself does pretty well on the Bechdel Test. If there was a way to promote that alongside the usual "kick ass!" "non-stop ultraviolence!" etc...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 04 April, 2014, 09:00:45 PM
personally I hate when marketing is obviously geared towards women...there's such a political correctness about the whole thing.  I just heard a story the other day about a fellow girl artist who had to sit in a meeting for hours listening to some higher ups (all men) argue about making a character's thighs bigger so the character could be branded as "we didn't draw the typical sexy video game girl."  But they were worried that then the core guy gamers wouldn't find her attractive...  ::)

I think your suggestion of the movie trailer being from Anderson's POV is good though.  I think that's why the comic is so awesome - it has all these female characters without branding them as such, who aren't trying particularly to be "strong"... who have their own flaws... if that makes any sense.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: QuickQuag on 05 April, 2014, 12:25:04 AM
Makes complete sense to me :)

We're lucky to have an Anderson who IMO could be leading a movie by herself - and hopefully one day will.
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 05 April, 2014, 10:17:56 AM
Quote from: QuickQuag on 04 April, 2014, 08:50:35 PM
Quote

I've heard the movie itself does pretty well on the Bechdel Test. If there was a way to promote that alongside the usual "kick ass!" "non-stop ultraviolence!" etc...

No, the movie fails the Bechdel test miserably!
The only time there are two female characters talking to each other (Anderson and the chief judge) they are talking about a man (Dredd)!
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mabs on 05 April, 2014, 10:19:43 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 05 April, 2014, 10:17:56 AM
Quote from: QuickQuag on 04 April, 2014, 08:50:35 PM

I've heard the movie itself does pretty well on the Bechdel Test. If there was a way to promote that alongside the usual "kick ass!" "non-stop ultraviolence!" etc...

No, the movie fails the Bechdel test miserably!
The only time there are two female characters talking to each other (Anderson and the chief judge) they are talking about a man (Dredd)!

Good point!
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 05 April, 2014, 10:36:54 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 05 April, 2014, 10:17:56 AM
The only time there are two female characters talking to each other (Anderson and the chief judge) they are talking about a man (Dredd)!

Kaplan and MaMa discuss killing Anderson, which is a Bechdel pass.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 05 April, 2014, 11:42:19 AM
Quote from: Molch-R on 03 April, 2014, 04:17:29 PM
Sorted now...

Part 1: http://youtu.be/vitm9XgMPKY
Part 2: http://youtu.be/h4fnqohGGKw

Hey, can anybody make out the Dredd quote at 16:12 in Part 2. I can't an it's annoying the hell out of me.  >:(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 05 April, 2014, 12:10:05 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 05 April, 2014, 11:42:19 AM
Quote from: Molch-R on 03 April, 2014, 04:17:29 PM
Sorted now...

Part 1: http://youtu.be/vitm9XgMPKY
Part 2: http://youtu.be/h4fnqohGGKw

Hey, can anybody make out the Dredd quote at 16:12 in Part 2. I can't an it's annoying the hell out of me.  >:(

"Adios, cruel world"?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: 8-Ball on 05 April, 2014, 03:37:47 PM
Quote from: QuickQuag on 05 April, 2014, 12:25:04 AM
Makes complete sense to me :)

We're lucky to have an Anderson who IMO could be leading a movie by herself - and hopefully one day will.

I kind of wish Anderson had been on the movie poster.  :'(
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 05 April, 2014, 04:36:21 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 05 April, 2014, 10:36:54 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 05 April, 2014, 10:17:56 AM
The only time there are two female characters talking to each other (Anderson and the chief judge) they are talking about a man (Dredd)!

Kaplan and MaMa discuss killing Anderson, which is a Bechdel pass.

Cheers

Jim

Good call - forgot about that. And there's also Anderson and Cathy.
I should also add that the Bechdel is not the be all and end all of things on this subject, IMO.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: QuickQuag on 05 April, 2014, 10:18:01 PM
I was going to mention the Anderson/Cathy exchange too - a dialogue highlight, I thought.

But yeah, Bechdel isn't the be-all, although it's a useful trendy yardstick, and you do see it applied to other comic franchises for one. I think positive points of difference are worth emphasising (because we're never going to win whenever someone brings up The Raid!  :|)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 05 April, 2014, 11:05:30 PM
Bechdel is a good test for making a wider point (in that a 'reverse' test of this kind would see almost every movie pass), but it's less relevant for movies that have balance anyway. Dredd has four primary characters, two of which are women. The only iffy element in the film gender-wise is the very male-oriented nature of the gangs. (Also, while Dredd only narrowly passes the test due to perhaps three very short bits of dialogue, most of the film is very self-contained, which somewhat excuses it. Similarly, Gravity actually fails the test, despite the majority of screen time being Sandra Bullock.)

Quote from: mimikeke on 04 April, 2014, 09:00:45 PMI think that's why the comic is so awesome - it has all these female characters without branding them as such, who aren't trying particularly to be "strong"... who have their own flaws... if that makes any sense.
I think that nails it. In the better 2000AD strips and definitely in Dredd, the women just *are*. There is this annoying emphasis right now on women having to be 'strong' in films. Well, sure, some should be. Others should be weak; normal; young; old; pretty; ugly; clever; dumb; etc. I suspect the 'strong' thing is to ensure women, who are underrepresented in film, at least show up in a positive manner when they're there. (That research that showed as few as 17% women in a crowd scene is now seen as 'equal' visually by many was telling.) It's great (and amazing, given the genre) Dredd got this, and other films should learn from its example.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 05 April, 2014, 11:49:53 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 05 April, 2014, 12:10:05 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 05 April, 2014, 11:42:19 AM
Quote from: Molch-R on 03 April, 2014, 04:17:29 PM
Sorted now...

Part 1: http://youtu.be/vitm9XgMPKY
Part 2: http://youtu.be/h4fnqohGGKw

Hey, can anybody make out the Dredd quote at 16:12 in Part 2. I can't an it's annoying the hell out of me.  >:(

"Adios, cruel world"?

Sounds right. Couldn't get the "Adios" part. :)

Now the really hard question... does anybody know what story it's from?  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mark Taylor on 05 April, 2014, 11:55:53 PM
Bechdel sounds extremely flawed though... I mean a movie could pass the test by having two women discuss their hair and makeup, something which I'm pretty sure has been done at least a few times for the comedic value of the female stereotype.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 06 April, 2014, 12:24:23 AM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 05 April, 2014, 11:55:53 PM
Bechdel sounds extremely flawed though... I mean a movie could pass the test by having two women discuss their hair and makeup, something which I'm pretty sure has been done at least a few times for the comedic value of the female stereotype.

Very true, but the horror is that even that is ridiculously rare.  Bechdel didn't intend this as a serious analytical tool, just a very quick and easy perspective on what goes on in film, but the results are striking: movies, and the women in them, are usually about men.  That's what the Bechdel test incontrovertibly highlights. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 06 April, 2014, 12:54:05 AM
My understanding of the Bechdel test is that one woman is conversing with another, and what they are talking about is another woman.

So Dredd passes, and passes well. Not just because Kaplan and Ma Ma are discussing Anderson, but because they are discussing HOW TO KILL HER. Not only is it a Bechdel pass, isn't that a first? It is to my memory, unless someone can prove me wrong.

Outside of this, as others have mentioned, women are shown not just in strong lights in Dredd, but in a VARIETY of lights.  As a women pointed out to me recently, the success of women's lib is not that women can be strong, or perform alongside men in what may previously have been a male arena, but that they have the CHOICE to do so.

This CHOICE is beautifully illustrated in the film:
A mother
A cop
A Chief Judge
A drug lord

There may be more, but those spring immediately to mind. 

How many other films in this genre have shown this same regard?  Or how many other films of any kind?

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 06 April, 2014, 01:42:11 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 06 April, 2014, 12:54:05 AM
My understanding of the Bechdel test is that one woman is conversing with another, and what they are talking about is another woman.

Not even that strict - just be talking about anything other than a man.

And yes, Dredd does pass, but I think given the prominent roles you highlight SM, it really doesn't 'need' to.  Women are obviously active members of (this nightmarish) society, with agency and motives beyond their relationships with men, and that really is a rarity.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 April, 2014, 01:54:00 AM


The ideal Dredd sequel would be a cross between and The Pit and Pitch Perfect.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 06 April, 2014, 03:54:40 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 April, 2014, 01:54:00 AM


The ideal Dredd sequel would be a cross between and The Pit and Pitch Perfect.

You laugh, but that movie would get greenlit way before Dredd.  And its sequel.  I just saw a trailer for a new Drew Barrymore/Adam Sandler movie...it just infuriated me haha.  HOW DOES HOLLYWOOD WORK *flips table*

Maybe we can tell the financers that we're making a Tyler Perry Madea film and make Dredd 2 instead.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 April, 2014, 04:17:47 AM
Quote from: mimikeke on 06 April, 2014, 03:54:40 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 April, 2014, 01:54:00 AM
The ideal Dredd sequel would be a cross between and The Pit and Pitch Perfect.

You laugh, but that movie would get greenlit way before Dredd.  And its sequel.

Me no laugh, 2 of my favourite films of 2012 were Dredd and Pitch Perfect (I'm still waiting for Rebellion to release a collection of all Judge Dredd stories written in the style of musical theatre). Unless Karl Urban can sing, we'll need to dub him, or call in Hugh Jackman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvRtKMxc88Q).


Quote from: mimikeke on 06 April, 2014, 03:54:40 AMMaybe we can tell the financers that we're making a Tyler Perry Madea film and make Dredd 2 instead.

Even Lionsgate had enough of that stomm (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tyler-perry-shutting-down-la-684483).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 06 April, 2014, 04:33:01 AM
Urban sang at the Dallas con I was at.  He's....not very good haha. There may need to be some dubbing  :lol:

I couldn't make it all the way through this one video.  There was some joke going on a while ago that all the current Star Trek actors could be in a Star Trek musical but Urban wouldn't be invited and this was used as the example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpBZntlpIPo
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: QuickQuag on 06 April, 2014, 07:53:13 AM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 05 April, 2014, 11:55:53 PM
Bechdel sounds extremely flawed though... I mean a movie could pass the test by having two women discuss their hair and makeup, something which I'm pretty sure has been done at least a few times for the comedic value of the female stereotype.

But...isn't that the plot of Catwoman?  :D


Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 06 April, 2014, 12:54:05 AM
Outside of this, as others have mentioned, women are shown not just in strong lights in Dredd, but in a VARIETY of lights.  As a women pointed out to me recently, the success of women's lib is not that women can be strong, or perform alongside men in what may previously have been a male arena, but that they have the CHOICE to do so.

This CHOICE is beautifully illustrated in the film:
A mother
A cop
A Chief Judge
A drug lord

There may be more, but those spring immediately to mind. 

How many other films in this genre have shown this same regard?  Or how many other films of any kind?

Those are four beautiful examples, I reckon. You could also say that Kay arguably offers another [dramatic] option - that of an antagonist who isn't defined by her sex or sexuality... maybe. Possibly setting her up against Anderson is a grey area, but then the outcome isn't a hair pulling catfight for the lads, either.

To my mind on the screen and when it's done well in the comics, MC-1's justice system is a postfeminist one; the last SF movie I heard that applied to was Alien.

[*Disclaimer: I don't get out much!]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Modern Panther on 06 April, 2014, 01:02:37 PM
Just occurred to me - how many times in Dredd do two named male characters discuss something other than a women?

Dredd's conversations with male characters are mainly (or entirely) about Mama or Anderson.  The gangmember's conversations are the same.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 06 April, 2014, 01:09:17 PM
The Tempunaut Test is born.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 06 April, 2014, 03:50:16 PM
On the catfight front, another thought: Judge Dredd had that risible scrap between Hershey and Dr. Hayden. The contrast is rather clear with the equivalent set-up in Dredd, and [spoiler]Anderson methodically dispensing with Kaplan[/spoiler].
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 06 April, 2014, 07:22:37 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 06 April, 2014, 01:42:11 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 06 April, 2014, 12:54:05 AM
My understanding of the Bechdel test is that one woman is conversing with another, and what they are talking about is another woman.

Not even that strict - just be talking about anything other than a man.

I think too many people miss this point. A film doesn't automatically fail if two women talk about a man. It fails if that's pretty much all they talk about. But as TordelBack says, it's taken far more seriously than Bechdel intended so to criticize her for other people's application of it is a tad unfair.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 06 April, 2014, 07:24:41 PM
Quote from: Eric Plumrose on 06 April, 2014, 07:22:37 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 06 April, 2014, 01:42:11 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 06 April, 2014, 12:54:05 AM
My understanding of the Bechdel test is that one woman is conversing with another, and what they are talking about is another woman.

Not even that strict - just be talking about anything other than a man.

I think too many people miss this point. A film doesn't automatically fail if two women talk about a man. It fails if that's pretty much all they talk about. But as TordelBack says, it's taken far more seriously than Bechdel intended so to criticize her for other people's application of it is a tad unfair.

Yup, it is a good guideline or starting point but is not the be all and end all. Pacific Rim, for example, fails it miserably, but has one of the strongest female characters you'll ever see.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 07 April, 2014, 02:29:25 AM
She saves the film in hat regard, but that film's gender balance isn't great, from the main characters right through to the crowd scenes.

On Bechdel criteria, the rules are:

- The film has to have at least two women in it, who talk to each other about something other than a man
- The characters should be named.

The second of those isn't always used. The fact tons of modern films fail the first of those tests is pretty depressing. So, again, a win for Dredd!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Theblazeuk on 07 April, 2014, 12:39:29 PM
Who is the strong female character in Pacific Rim?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 07 April, 2014, 12:58:28 PM
These tests are just extra ways to critisize movies. I don't really care who is talking to who about whom. If a movie is great these factors will not detract my opinion.





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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 07 April, 2014, 01:32:07 PM
I don't think it's meant to criticise the movies as entertainment or even as successful works of craft/art, just a handy way of showing that women as people in their own right, with thoughts and objectives and relationships other than those with men, basically don't exist in mainstream cinema.  Movies are about 50% of the population, the other half only matter in terms of how they relate to the first half.  And while that might not be terribly surprising, the crowd-scene statistic surely is an eye-opener. 

The importance of all this isn't actually related to how 'good' or 'bad' a movie is, it's more about how one major strand of culture consistently represents women (effectively as a minor adjunct to or motivation for men), to men and to women and to kids, and how that must feed into how we all relate to each other.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 07 April, 2014, 01:59:55 PM
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 07 April, 2014, 12:39:29 PM
Who is the strong female character in Pacific Rim?
(http://www.pacificrim-movie.net/media/Pacific_Rim_Kaiju_Featurette_02.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Theblazeuk on 07 April, 2014, 02:59:46 PM
Correct answer.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 07 April, 2014, 06:14:12 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 07 April, 2014, 01:32:07 PM
I don't think it's meant to criticise the movies as entertainment or even as successful works of craft/art, just a handy way of showing that women as people in their own right, with thoughts and objectives and relationships other than those with men, basically don't exist in mainstream cinema.  Movies are about 50% of the population, the other half only matter in terms of how they relate to the first half.  And while that might not be terribly surprising, the crowd-scene statistic surely is an eye-opener. 

The importance of all this isn't actually related to how 'good' or 'bad' a movie is, it's more about how one major strand of culture consistently represents women (effectively as a minor adjunct to or motivation for men), to men and to women and to kids, and how that must feed into how we all relate to each other.
Exactly. The movie industry right now effectively presents 'male' as the default and 'female' as 'other', very often as a token inclusion. This is so endemic and systematic that we now often congratulate producers who add a 'strong female character' when there may be *several* male equivalents in the same film.

Frankly, I thought Geena Davis totally nailed this last year (http://jezebel.com/geena-davis-solves-hollywood-sexism-in-two-easy-steps-1482169524).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 07 April, 2014, 08:58:23 PM
And the 'strong' is almost always wrong... Strong doesn't have to mean fiesty independent woman going 'Roar'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 07 April, 2014, 09:12:41 PM
Soooooo..
Any news on DREDD II 'The search for Drokk' yet.





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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 07 April, 2014, 10:32:19 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 07 April, 2014, 09:12:41 PM
Soooooo..
Any news on DREDD II 'The search for Drokk' yet.

You came to the wrong place for that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 07 April, 2014, 11:27:06 PM
Maybe start a thread  DREDD (2029).





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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 April, 2014, 11:28:42 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 07 April, 2014, 09:12:41 PM
Soooooo..
Any news on DREDD II 'The search for Drokk' yet.

Great title for Dredd 2!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mogzilla on 08 April, 2014, 12:37:53 PM
they've started filming in cairo under the guise of a new star wars film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 09 April, 2014, 05:24:32 AM
Has the Bechdel test been mentioned here yet?...'cause 'she's a pass.'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 09 April, 2014, 08:41:13 AM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 09 April, 2014, 05:24:32 AM
Has the Bechdel test been mentioned here yet?...'cause 'she's a pass.'

Only about 20 times, and the last time was just a couple of days ago!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Pete Wells on 09 April, 2014, 09:09:27 AM
Most of the films I watch online pass the Bechdel test.

There tends to be at least two women in them (more is certainly a bonus,) they do talk to each other (usually during the build up,) and there's certainly no talk of blokes, that'd be off putting.

If the missus goes out this afternoon I might watch a couple more...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 09 April, 2014, 09:36:08 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 09 April, 2014, 08:41:13 AM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 09 April, 2014, 05:24:32 AM
Has the Bechdel test been mentioned here yet?...'cause 'she's a pass.'

Only about 20 times, and the last time was just a couple of days ago!  :lol:

... :-\  I'll get my snow shoes...i may be gone some time.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 13 April, 2014, 02:27:23 PM
Quote from: mimikeke on 06 April, 2014, 04:33:01 AM
Urban sang at the Dallas con I was at.  He's....not very good haha. There may need to be some dubbing  :lol:

I couldn't make it all the way through this one video.  There was some joke going on a while ago that all the current Star Trek actors could be in a Star Trek musical but Urban wouldn't be invited and this was used as the example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpBZntlpIPo

Heh. He's such a good sport.. Come to think of it, he was a good sport for his role in Xena too. Didn't he play Cupid?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 April, 2014, 05:29:10 PM
Yep, Caesar too apparently.

(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb13/mesmorizee/vlcsnap-318726.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 April, 2014, 08:17:17 PM
Our Karl's message is his Law as now the Signed the Sequel is 120,000!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 14 April, 2014, 06:34:35 PM
Bloody Raid 2 is out now, . . .  remember it stealing some of DREDD 3D's promo thunder too !  >:(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 14 April, 2014, 06:45:45 PM
All this The Raid vs. Dredd argument is utter crap. They share a basis similarity (Drug den, cops go in to stop them, big fight). But thats practicaly a genre on it's own anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Art on 14 April, 2014, 07:41:05 PM
Drug bust. Perps were uncooperative.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 14 April, 2014, 08:09:49 PM
I should watch the rest of the Raid, really.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Link Prime on 14 April, 2014, 08:28:20 PM
Love 'em Gav.

Did you get to meet Biz too?
What were the lines like for Fabry / Biz?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Link Prime on 14 April, 2014, 08:29:53 PM
Quote from: Link Prime on 14 April, 2014, 08:28:20 PM
Love 'em Gav.

Did you get to meet Biz too?
What were the lines like for Fabry / Biz?

Uhh, wrong thread, can't modify.
Mod - please delete?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 April, 2014, 07:38:10 PM



Looks like Lex (clone) is back for the sequel:

(http://www.syfy.com/_cache/images/assets/dominion/2014-04/photogallery_1920x1080_16_139784330859___CC___640x360.jpg)



Peach Trees too (and its Citi-Def):

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/CAPE_zps203e1cf0.jpg)






Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 24 April, 2014, 02:35:45 AM
I take it that's from Dominion? I wasn't aware of any Legion spin-off but it looks interesting. Though Kirkwood doesn't appear to have a prominent role in it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 24 April, 2014, 10:34:24 AM
Dominion TV series: A rebellious Soldier discovers he's the unlikely Saviour of the human race.

Wonder if Kirk Langely gets to be on 'the wrong side of a gun' again? Probably.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 27 April, 2014, 12:52:27 PM
Planet Replicas have just posted that they are going to be uploading 67 behind-the-scenes photos on their FB page, looks like they're some unseen pics.

(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/l/t1.0-9/1620415_659316864104339_3781404842189865832_n.jpg)


https://www.facebook.com/PlanetReplicas (https://www.facebook.com/PlanetReplicas)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 April, 2014, 01:04:31 PM
Awesome! Nice pix of Lena's Ma-Ma stunt :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 27 April, 2014, 05:40:25 PM
Yay, about time some behind the scenes pics surfaced, don't think i've seen any since before the movie was out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 27 April, 2014, 06:00:03 PM
I've seen few that aren't on the net, being shown at a couple of conventions.

I'm not sure if these are the same ones though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 27 April, 2014, 07:18:20 PM
Mike VK posted this one up the other day:

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x32/scowling_monkey/83EAD0C8-235A-4644-8E61-ED53637452AF_zpsthhgyvow.jpg) (http://s186.photobucket.com/user/scowling_monkey/media/83EAD0C8-235A-4644-8E61-ED53637452AF_zpsthhgyvow.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 April, 2014, 02:29:10 PM
Impressive but where on Earth did they get the Bikes? Surely they were all sold off at the end of the shoot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 28 April, 2014, 02:47:48 PM
I think that was during the shoot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 28 April, 2014, 02:50:19 PM
And I think they maybe be Dredd & Anderson's stunts?

Again that Judge jacket without armour looks awesome.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 April, 2014, 07:38:29 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 24 April, 2014, 10:34:24 AM
Wonder if Kirk Langely gets to be on 'the wrong side of a gun' again? Probably.

Langley Kirkwood. Must get new brain.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 April, 2014, 09:37:16 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 April, 2014, 02:29:10 PM
Impressive but where on Earth did they get the Bikes? Surely they were all sold off at the end of the shoot.


The picture is of the stunt riders. 2 bikes were sold in the auction and 2 were kept by DNA along with Lawgivers and main costumes; only stunt and background or dead characters' costumes were sold.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 April, 2014, 09:47:21 PM
And you know what that info confirms ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 April, 2014, 09:50:28 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 April, 2014, 09:47:21 PM
And you know what that info confirms ;)


Well I wouldn't be so bold as to suggest such a thing...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 April, 2014, 10:15:08 PM
I was just going to say that those dead and background characters won't be back :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 30 April, 2014, 02:32:27 AM
Make of this what you will...

DREDD LEGO - SHORT FILM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfaIDVclNYg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 30 April, 2014, 07:58:09 AM
Have the other 66 of those behind the scenes pics been uploaded yet?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 30 April, 2014, 09:12:30 PM
No, not yet - I will post here when they are uploaded.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 April, 2014, 10:52:39 PM



Bay City Roller Adi Shankar mentions that thing (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1s7gbk_dredd-producer-on-sequel-there-s-no-f-king-script-dweebcast-oratv_tech).


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 May, 2014, 12:07:25 AM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Loved his sign off!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 01 May, 2014, 12:27:16 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 May, 2014, 12:07:25 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Loved his sign off!

That kid's too cool for school. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 01 May, 2014, 08:26:00 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 April, 2014, 10:52:39 PM
Bay City Roller Adi Shankar mentions that thing (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1s7gbk_dredd-producer-on-sequel-there-s-no-f-king-script-dweebcast-oratv_tech).

He's like a wee Chihuahua peeking out of a tartan shopping trolley.  A lesser man than yourself would have pointed out that the primary obstacle Shankar cites to another film being made is exactly that which you guessed months ago - that the distribution rights to any putative sequel rest with different companies in every territory and would have to be (re)negotiated on an individual basis.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 01 May, 2014, 08:53:36 AM
What a great guy!  Very heartening stuff.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 May, 2014, 08:59:16 AM
Wish for subtitles there...

Nice signing off

(http://i.imgur.com/EB1EIul.jpg?1)

plus he looks like that bloke from Scott Pilgrim Vs The World

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/0cad81f05e025718a59529b841e1945c/tumblr_mvod1iXUdN1qiqj9ko1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 03 May, 2014, 12:12:06 AM
The poor guy seems abit disheartened by it all. He has a vision about how to approach this sequel successfully but is surrounded by numerous fuckups (in suits) that keep sticking spanners in  the works.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 May, 2014, 12:25:47 AM
It's not really the fuck ups in suits that are the problem, is it? It's the multi-million dollar loss on a piece of IP that tanked at the box office once when the movie was unfaithful to the source material, then tanked a second time when it WAS faithful to the source material. That's a no-win, right there.

Loving the source material isn't enough -- it's convincing the people with the money who DON'T love it that they should pony up tens of millions of dollars on a franchise that's failed twice.

That's hard sell.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 03 May, 2014, 10:14:20 AM
Yep if a Film doesn't make a profit, or make it's money back it's seen to be to risky to chuck squillions of dollars at it again. So the grim arithmetic says No to a DREDD sequel. >sniff<  :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 03 May, 2014, 10:29:23 AM
Oh well, there's still the comics eh?

Eh?

Comics, right?

Comics are good.

Happy FCBD.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 03 May, 2014, 01:55:44 PM
Yep! that's true I'm off to trawl through me 2000ad back issues :)
As for Jim's point on it in the last post, your correct from the viewpoint of investors looking at this from a business angle. Our Dredd movie was a victory creatively but unfortunately the Fuckups in suits that Adi is referring to are the ones that mishandled Dredd 3D from the  very beginning.
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 May, 2014, 05:33:10 PM
I was reading through some old Dredd the other night and found a one-off from around 2000 called 'The Island' by Wagner and Frazer Irving, which is a (very) loose riff on the movie 'The Beach'.

I wonder if Alex Garland is aware of it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 03 May, 2014, 09:22:53 PM
Get the solicitor's!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 04 May, 2014, 10:05:24 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 03 May, 2014, 12:25:47 AM
It's not really the fuck ups in suits that are the problem, is it? It's the multi-million dollar loss on a piece of IP that tanked at the box office once when the movie was unfaithful to the source material, then tanked a second time when it WAS faithful to the source material. That's a no-win, right there.

Precisely the same thing happened with "Hulk"/"Incredible Hulk", so there's still hope.
(Like JD/Dredd, both movies pretty much only just broke even, taking prints & advertising into account).

There's also another avenue that nobody's mentioned yet.  It's a new frontier, but companies like Netflix and Amazon Prime are queueing up for exclusive content.  Dredd had a higher-than-normal proportion of DVD/bluray sales (normal seems to be about 10-20% cf. box office; Dredd did nearly 50%) and hit a similar demographic to the Netflix main customer base, so it seems a marriage made in heaven.

A gritty plot (requiring fewer effects) and no-3D would keep budget down.  Maybe even make it an Anderson-only spin-off, to reduce salary costs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 May, 2014, 10:20:34 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 04 May, 2014, 10:05:24 AM
Precisely the same thing happened with "Hulk"/"Incredible Hulk", so there's still hope.

Umm. Hulk made $245 worldwide on a budget of $137M, and Incredible Hulk made $263M on $150M. Dredd made $35M on a budget of $50M.

Also, the Hulk is a property with a far higher profile in the general public's consciousness and is part of a larger, largely very successful movie strategy from Marvel. They can stand the odd mediocre box office performance as part of that.

There is no comparison between Dredd and the Hulk movies.

Cheers

Jim

[EDIT to repair broken quote—IP]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 04 May, 2014, 10:29:11 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 04 May, 2014, 10:20:34 AM
There is no comparison between Dredd and the Hulk movies.

Apart from that they're both underrated.




(I LOVE ANG LEE'S HULK)





(https://31.media.tumblr.com/7da5c8985102271cfc9687447c7471a2/tumblr_inline_n04uatC5uz1qbygev.gif)





(AND I'M USED TO BEING JUDGED FOR IT)



...which is another thing they have in common...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 May, 2014, 10:38:43 AM
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 04 May, 2014, 10:29:11 AM
Apart from that they're both underrated.

Takes all sorts, I suppose...!

As if to prove that, I think Ang Lee's Hulk is a stinking mess of a movie, but can't understand the hate for 'Incredible' which did exactly what was expected of it, and did it rather entertainingly, IMO.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 04 May, 2014, 11:48:48 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 04 May, 2014, 10:20:34 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 04 May, 2014, 10:05:24 AM
Precisely the same thing happened with "Hulk"/"Incredible Hulk", so there's still hope.

Umm. Hulk made $245 worldwide on a budget of $137M, and Incredible Hulk made $263M on $150M. Dredd made $35M on a budget of $50M.

Also, the Hulk is a property with a far higher profile in the general public's consciousness and is part of a larger, largely very successful movie strategy from Marvel. They can stand the odd mediocre box office performance as part of that.

There is no comparison between Dredd and the Hulk movies.

Cheers

Jim

Dredd made nearly $41M according to thenumbers.com, though I appreciate it's all academic probably'

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Dredd#tab=summary


[EDIT to repair broken quote—IP]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 May, 2014, 01:13:20 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 04 May, 2014, 10:05:24 AM

Precisely the same thing happened with "Hulk"/"Incredible Hulk", so there's still hope.
(Like JD/Dredd, both movies pretty much only just broke even, taking prints & advertising into account).


The Incredible Hulk never lost money (http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Incredible-Hulk-The#tab=summary) and was very successful, especially at the US box-office and after-sales which is what matters most to the studios because they get a far greater cut of money earned in the US than internationally.

Dredd made $41m (http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Dredd#tab=summary) with a production budget somewhere between $35m-45m  (The only source for the $50m production figure is boxofficemojo which no one seems to agree with).

P&A costs haven't been published but they possibly equal the amount spent to make the film (which is normal), but ignoring P&A costs -a complex issue- Dredd didn't break-even at the box-office and needed to earn about $70m-80m to manage that.

The P&A issue got more complex when it was reported (http://www.deadline.com/2012/09/soft-friday-box-office-clint-eastwoods-trouble-with-the-curve-disappoints-but-end-of-watch-strong-even-if-house-1-rebooted-dredd-opens-just-dreadful/) that Lionsgate bore no marketing cost in the US because IMGlobal paid for it all which could mean that they, rather than Lionsgate, controlled the marketing, which also could mean that after box-office and disc sales Lionsgate made money from Dredd while IMGlobal -the financier- made none.

Quote from: A.Cow on 04 May, 2014, 10:05:24 AMDredd had a higher-than-normal proportion of DVD/bluray sales (normal seems to be about 10-20% cf. box office; Dredd did nearly 50%) and hit a similar demographic to the Netflix main customer base, so it seems a marriage made in heaven.


Might be a bit more positive than that- for what it's worth. The current figures suggest Dredd made more than 50% of its box-office in sales and is closer to 100%: in the US, disc sales exceeded US box-office while in the UK sales equaled box-office. If it's a global trend, Dredd made as much, or more, after box-office.

Quote from: A.Cow on 04 May, 2014, 10:05:24 AMThere's also another avenue that nobody's mentioned yet.  It's a new frontier, but companies like Netflix and Amazon Prime are queueing up for exclusive content ... Maybe even make it an Anderson-only spin-off, to reduce salary costs.

The VOD route is frequently mentioned (along with the proverbial kickstarter bollox) but an Anderson spin-off makes little sense; it's Dredd that sells and it's Dredd most people want to see, Anderson's a bonus. It's the distributor issue that seems the greatest impediment to any future prospect however remote that actually is.





Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 04 May, 2014, 03:18:47 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 04 May, 2014, 01:13:20 PM..however remote that actually is.

Give that man a PhD in Caveats.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 May, 2014, 03:32:23 PM



Never say never ... where there's a will ... just ask the Randians- Atlas Shrugged never made any money yet gets  2 sequels (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged:_Part_III) no one asked for.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 04 May, 2014, 03:39:36 PM
DREDD will have to become a Capitalist Psychopath instead of the Futures toughest Law man if DREDD 2 is ever to be green lit. :sick:

2 sequels from a series of movies which are little more than Over class propaganda? Atlas mugged would be a better title.There is no justice in this world after all.

Oh yes if your rich there is...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 May, 2014, 08:27:35 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 04 May, 2014, 03:39:36 PM

2 sequels from a series of movies which are little more than Over class propaganda? Atlas mugged would be a better title.There is no justice in this world after all.

Oh yes if your rich there is...


Nothing to do with the rich upper class; no studio put any money into them because they're a total loss. Ironically, it seems the producers don't understand how capitalism works. There is no demand for them and no audience but we'll make them anyway because we have faith in the liberal market.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 05 May, 2014, 09:24:59 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 04 May, 2014, 03:39:36 PMThere is no justice in this world after all.


There's just us.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 May, 2014, 01:25:45 PM
Sorry if it been post before as away this weekend.

Dredd 2: 10 Reasons Why It Needs To Happen

http://whatculture.com/film/dredd-2-10-reasons-needs-happen.php (http://whatculture.com/film/dredd-2-10-reasons-needs-happen.php)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 May, 2014, 02:02:22 PM
An awesome Olivia Thirlby tweet!

(http://2000ad.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/thirlby.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 06 May, 2014, 02:30:25 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 May, 2014, 01:25:45 PM
Sorry if it been post before as away this weekend.

Dredd 2: 10 Reasons Why It Needs To Happen

http://whatculture.com/film/dredd-2-10-reasons-needs-happen.php (http://whatculture.com/film/dredd-2-10-reasons-needs-happen.php)

Oops, number 5  :-[

And that tweet is great.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 06 May, 2014, 07:16:26 PM
Yes, nice article and great tweet from the lovely Ms Thrilby!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 09 May, 2014, 04:12:58 PM
This is unlicensed product and, I believe, Rebellion are aware of it. As brilliant as it is, I'm not sure any of us should be giving these people money for copyright/trademark infringement.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 09 May, 2014, 04:20:06 PM
Posts deleted. Please do not post unlicensed products onto general threads, instead email them to us via the website so that we can take action. Thanks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 May, 2014, 04:43:00 PM
Aye Master! Thoughts so. Too bad as it nice figure.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 09 May, 2014, 04:51:40 PM
All that beauty, reduced to ash by a single rigellian hotshot...  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 09 May, 2014, 05:32:10 PM
Sorry, mods. I wasn't aware that the model was unlicensed or that it was against forum regulations to post up links to such products. I was wondering why the model was named like it was. I thought it was a translation thing. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 09 May, 2014, 10:58:05 PM
Facsists! Dictators! We shall not be moved!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 09 May, 2014, 11:00:38 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 09 May, 2014, 10:58:05 PM
Facsists! Dictators! We shall not be moved!

Forget it Jake, it's 2000ADtown.

It's their forum :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 09 May, 2014, 11:13:02 PM
only official products may be referred to:

(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd359/anaconda888/lawmster_zps8a6e7bf4.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dracula1 on 10 May, 2014, 06:09:08 PM
Alan Moore a modern day Wizard does Cosplay!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 10 May, 2014, 08:42:21 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 09 May, 2014, 04:12:58 PM
This is unlicensed product and, I believe, Rebellion are aware of it. As brilliant as it is, I'm not sure any of us should be giving these people money for copyright/trademark infringement.

Novelty car horns aside, there are few things as irritating as people discussing something you can't ever see.

Could somebody kindly explain what this "unlicensed product" actually was?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 10 May, 2014, 08:57:44 PM
A large Dredd action figure.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 May, 2014, 09:10:00 PM
You should have said a Novelty Dredd Car Horn.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 11 May, 2014, 10:54:59 PM
That would be so cool - 'DROKK DROKK!'  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: QuickQuag on 12 May, 2014, 02:15:55 AM
"Perp, Perp", surely?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 12 May, 2014, 07:56:38 AM
So when can we expect this short, then?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 12 May, 2014, 08:00:22 AM
Quote from: QuickQuag on 12 May, 2014, 02:15:55 AM
"Perp, Perp", surely?

That's Judge Toadd's version.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fragminion on 13 May, 2014, 04:03:39 AM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 12 May, 2014, 07:56:38 AM
So when can we expect this short, then?

Not soon enough
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 May, 2014, 04:40:28 PM
http://geekchicelite.com/judgement-time-karl-urban-brings-law-ottawa/ (http://geekchicelite.com/judgement-time-karl-urban-brings-law-ottawa/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fragminion on 13 May, 2014, 11:26:20 PM
I wish they would try to do an Animated Direct to DVD Dredd movie....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 May, 2014, 12:07:42 PM
Dredd in 50 best Action movies.

http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-best-action-movies/dredd-2012 (http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-best-action-movies/dredd-2012)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 15 May, 2014, 12:45:10 PM
Was that a public vote thing? And I wonder what the criteria were.

Much as I enjoyed Dredd, there wasn't anything particularly outstanding about the action (slo-mo drugs bust excepted) that made me want to go back and see it again and again from an "action" perspective. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 15 May, 2014, 12:52:11 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 15 May, 2014, 12:45:10 PM
Was that a public vote thing? And I wonder what the criteria were.

Much as I enjoyed Dredd, there wasn't anything particularly outstanding about the action (slo-mo drugs bust excepted) that made me want to go back and see it again and again from an "action" perspective.


It has some great character moments though, that most modern action movies utterly lack.
And that's what keeps me coming back!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 16 May, 2014, 01:42:12 AM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 15 May, 2014, 12:45:10 PM
Much as I enjoyed Dredd, there wasn't anything particularly outstanding about the action (slo-mo drugs bust excepted) that made me want to go back and see it again and again from an "action" perspective.

It's got Judge Dredd in it!  Isn't that enough?
He could be issuing parking tickets and I'd still watch it repeatedly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 16 May, 2014, 12:10:49 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 16 May, 2014, 01:42:12 AM
[It's got Judge Dredd in it!  Isn't that enough?

So I can see that as a reason for some of the fans of the comic to watch and like it but to a civilian? I would have thought that it seemed a little "underwhelming" in the action stakes.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 May, 2014, 02:17:00 PM
Mrs G's not read any Dredd. She loves the film, because:

- It's fast-paced and isn't full of bloated crap;
- It's unsanitised, and you actually see repercussions for actions;
- It has satisfying gender balance, with two especially well-rounded female roles.

She saw the film because of me, but she like it because of the film itself.
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 17 May, 2014, 05:52:37 PM
It could be nothing but it could be interesting. A friend of mine deals with security at pinewood. He said access was required for a new scope group. Scope groups in this case being very very early feasibility, location concepts etc. They can't call anything by its real name but it's usually obvious what the film is. There is a scope group for a 'gritty urban scifi' code named 'd2'. Make of that what you will.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 17 May, 2014, 05:55:17 PM
I'm hearing a vague sobbing from Nevada.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 17 May, 2014, 05:56:16 PM
Ears fully perked, I'll be watching this space.
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 17 May, 2014, 05:56:25 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 17 May, 2014, 05:52:37 PM
It could be nothing but it could be interesting. A friend of mine deals with security at pinewood. He said access was required for a new scope group. Scope groups in this case being very very early feasibility, location concepts etc. They can't call anything by its real name but it's usually obvious what the film is. There is a scope group for a 'gritty urban scifi' code named 'd2'. Make of that what you will

(http://www.slicksportstalk.com/sites/default/files/post_thumbs/Mighty%20Ducks%202.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 17 May, 2014, 06:00:21 PM
A quack squad of Judges.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 May, 2014, 06:07:20 PM
Maybe those tax breaks offered to the UK movie industry could help.

http://www.bfi.org.uk/film-industry/british-certification-tax-relief/about-tax-relief
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 17 May, 2014, 06:16:58 PM
I had to look twice at the positioning of that bubble gum
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DaveGYNWA on 17 May, 2014, 06:57:26 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 17 May, 2014, 06:16:58 PM
I had to look twice at the positioning of that bubble gum

:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 May, 2014, 07:05:41 PM
I had heard something like this roughly a month ago, ref locations but didn't want to post anything, as the normal negative clowns who seemingly relish in not wanting any chance of a sequel would've emerged from under their stones.

It may be nothing but I did tell at least one person as soon as the info came into the Cellar, as I couldn't hold it in :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 17 May, 2014, 08:21:33 PM
Citizen Tapir is curious. This odd toed ungulate will be watching this space...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 May, 2014, 08:28:29 PM
Oooh...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 May, 2014, 10:18:42 PM
Will be watching with interest too!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 May, 2014, 12:11:00 AM
Clowns is a bit harsh.

I totally get why people want to manage expectations - you only have to look on the Sequel page where it can start to get testy when people don't get something they want straight away.

Making films is a long, tedious, uncertain process. You only have to look at the difference between how what Karl has said has been spun, with what Adi's comments have been.
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 18 May, 2014, 02:25:49 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 17 May, 2014, 05:52:37 PM
'gritty urban scifi' code named 'd2'

D could stand for Deckard.
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 18 May, 2014, 08:56:10 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 17 May, 2014, 05:52:37 PM
It could be nothing but it could be interesting. A friend of mine deals with security at pinewood. He said access was required for a new scope group. Scope groups in this case being very very early feasibility, location concepts etc. They can't call anything by its real name but it's usually obvious what the film is. There is a scope group for a 'gritty urban scifi' code named 'd2'. Make of that what you will.

Can I get giddy yet?!
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 18 May, 2014, 09:31:35 AM
I'd say not yet :) 100s of these scope groups get formed and many won't get past that stage. It's pretty much the first tentative step before even a script is commissioned. The only thing we can take from this IF it is Dredd is the idea of a sequel isn't totally off the table. (But yes it could be movement and that makes me excited)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 May, 2014, 09:51:48 AM
Well, fingers crossed if true.

Just hope people don't see this and get ahead of themselves.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 18 May, 2014, 10:05:19 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 18 May, 2014, 09:51:48 AM
Just hope people don't see this and get ahead of themselves.

I find that possibility very hard to believe.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 18 May, 2014, 10:32:35 AM
-Quietly optimistic-  :|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 May, 2014, 10:34:46 AM
It will be longest wait and see
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 18 May, 2014, 11:47:25 AM
You have to think it's mostly strikes against a D2 but you never know. Also tough 'gritty urban sci fi' could describe a dozen movies. Still it will be interesting to find out what it is but I doubt it's the news we all want to hear.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 18 May, 2014, 04:08:12 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 18 May, 2014, 11:47:25 AM
You have to think it's mostly strikes against a D2 but you never know. Also tough 'gritty urban sci fi' could describe a dozen movies. Still it will be interesting to find out what it is but I doubt it's the news we all want to hear.

I took the 'Urban' to mean our Karl ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 18 May, 2014, 08:34:08 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 18 May, 2014, 04:08:12 PM
I took the 'Urban' to mean our Karl ;)

Doom 2?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 18 May, 2014, 09:42:11 PM
District 9 2.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Trout on 18 May, 2014, 10:00:34 PM
My cousin's hairdresser says it's Downfall 2: Rise of the Mechagoebbels.

I'm excited. In my opinion,the world cannot have too many films about Nazi cyborgs.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 May, 2014, 10:17:53 PM
Quote from: Trout on 18 May, 2014, 10:00:34 PM
My cousin's hairdresser says it's Downfall 2: Rise of the Mechagoebbels.

I'm excited. In my opinion,the world cannot have too many films about Nazi cyborgs.

There is one, you would like it;

Frankenstein's Army

(http://i.imgur.com/7VVmnbM.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 18 May, 2014, 11:50:32 PM
Not been checking/posting for a while been busy with one thing and another but what a day to come back to the board on  :) . Two separate people hearing a similar rumor from different sources in my head the sequel has been green lit  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Trout on 18 May, 2014, 11:56:17 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 18 May, 2014, 10:17:53 PM
Quote from: Trout on 18 May, 2014, 10:00:34 PM
My cousin's hairdresser says it's Downfall 2: Rise of the Mechagoebbels.

I'm excited. In my opinion,the world cannot have too many films about Nazi cyborgs.

There is one, you would like it;

Frankenstein's Army

(http://i.imgur.com/7VVmnbM.jpg?1)

Actually, I've seen it and I did like it. Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 May, 2014, 01:17:19 AM
And remember, I didn't say anything for nigh on a month, until someone else mentioned what they'd heard.
Don't want to get too excited yet!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 May, 2014, 02:43:07 AM


Here's one for Molcher to nip in the bud:


Karl Urban Wants Fans To Create A Kickstarter For Dredd Sequel (http://comicbook.com/blog/2014/05/18/karl-urban-wants-fans-to-create-a-kickstarter-for-dredd-sequel/)

Shortly after that, another fan asked Urban whether or not there would be a Dredd sequel. While he couldn't exactly say yes or no, the actor seemed optimistic about it saying that if he could personally fund it he would, but he can't. He makes it seem like there are talks about it, but there hasn't been anything written in stone quite yet. He then went on to say if they approached him for a Dredd sequel, he wouldn't turn it down. Urban then urged the panel attendees to create a Kickstarter for it.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 May, 2014, 03:02:32 AM
We now know what Goaty will be doing, once he wakes up :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 19 May, 2014, 03:10:03 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 18 May, 2014, 11:47:25 AM
... D2 ... tough 'gritty urban sci fi' could describe a dozen movies.

I'm afraid you're all wrong.

My friend -- who's the sister-in-law of a doctor's receptionist located next-door to a film company -- tells me that it's an "R-rated" (that's Hollywood-speak, by the way, which proves it's legit) spin-off movie for a certain famous astro-mech droid.

Yes, apparently Disney are seeking to capture the "Boardwalk Empire" audience demographic and they feel there's an opening for Kenny Baker to be shooting bad guys and making some of the electronic noises that you're not allowed to make in a U-certificate film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 May, 2014, 08:17:44 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 May, 2014, 03:02:32 AM
We now know what Goaty will be doing, once he wakes up :lol: :lol: :lol:

Haha! Love to but don't know how to kickstart it, boom boom!

Anyway, I thought there was one last year?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 19 May, 2014, 08:40:04 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 19 May, 2014, 03:10:03 AM
Yes, apparently Disney are seeking to capture the "Boardwalk Empire" audience demographic and they feel there's an opening for Kenny Baker to be shooting bad guys and making some of the electronic noises that you're not allowed to make in a U-certificate film.

If that's your elevator pitch A. Cow, count me in.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 May, 2014, 09:38:46 AM
Anyone even attempting to kickstart it would get shut down unless it was by the production, and approved. It would be neither their IP, or an IP they've licensed.

It's already been stated (by Alex Garland, I think) that Kickstarter is not a viable solution for a projection the size of Dredd. The largest amount of money raised is still a fraction of the relatively small budget that Dredd had.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 19 May, 2014, 01:17:20 PM
Stop being a negative clown!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 May, 2014, 01:23:19 PM
Yes, stop being so negative, we need more positive people on the planet :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 19 May, 2014, 01:25:54 PM
Yeah Steve, what would you know about making Dredd films anyway?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 May, 2014, 01:29:36 PM
Well, not profit making ones anyway ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 May, 2014, 01:31:25 PM



Quote from: tranquilVoid on 18 March, 2013, 10:39:56 PM
Thanks for your email and interest in a Dredd sequel. Although DNA Films would love to make further Dredd films it is not a decision that rests entirely with us and currently Kickstarter campaigns are not a viable option to fully finance these projects. We do appreciate the enthusiasm generated through social network campaigns and will be monitoring their progress.

Best wishes,
Alex Kendall




https://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?action=post;quote=750752;topic=38162.0;last_msg=750907
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 May, 2014, 01:33:51 PM
Obviously the Kickstarter (or anything like that) is not allowed. Karl is keeping the fans happy but I stand by what I said about what I was told and didn't post anything about it until someone else did.

It may be nothing but what I was told was a little more specific but still, didn't say Dredd!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 19 May, 2014, 01:36:12 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 19 May, 2014, 01:29:36 PM
Well, not profit making ones anyway ;)

At this stage I don't think ANYONE has experience of a profit-making Judge Dredd film!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 May, 2014, 01:47:45 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 May, 2014, 01:33:51 PM
Obviously the Kickstarter (or anything like that) is not allowed. Karl is keeping the fans happy but I stand by what I said about what I was told and didn't post anything about it until someone else did.

It may be nothing but what I was told was a little more specific but still, didn't say Dredd!


Apart from the logistics, it's more the improbability of a kickstarter working and the PR damage it would cause if it failed to meet its funding goal that stymies it for a feature, but, there's been a few other 'indicators' that another stint is not dead.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 19 May, 2014, 02:38:51 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 May, 2014, 01:47:45 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 May, 2014, 01:33:51 PM
Obviously the Kickstarter (or anything like that) is not allowed. Karl is keeping the fans happy but I stand by what I said about what I was told and didn't post anything about it until someone else did.

It may be nothing but what I was told was a little more specific but still, didn't say Dredd!


Apart from the logistics, it's more the improbability of a kickstarter working and the PR damage it would cause if it failed to meet its funding goal that stymies it for a feature, but, there's been a few other 'indicators' that another stint is not dead.

Until you choose to elaborate on that titbit of very vague information, I am going to assume you mean a sequel is definitely confirmed.

Great news!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 May, 2014, 04:58:07 PM
Ditto!  : :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 19 May, 2014, 10:26:58 PM
I glance back in at the boards to find a sequel has been confirmed  :lol: . What exactly was this "bit more specific " C F
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 19 May, 2014, 11:52:53 PM
Karl is cleverer than he looks.  Any attempt at a Kickstarter would have to be shut down by DNA, but it would prove there's a serious demand for the movie, which would help negotiations no end.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 May, 2014, 12:30:08 AM
Really, how do you work that out?

How far do you think they'd let it progress before they shut it down? It wouldn't prove much.

Even if every person who signed the petition put 10 quid in, that's still a very small fraction of a production budget. And that's leaving aside that people would likely point out that it's likely to be pulled.

I hate it when I can't sleep.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 20 May, 2014, 03:29:20 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 20 May, 2014, 12:30:08 AM
Really, how do you work that out?
How far do you think they'd let it progress before they shut it down? It wouldn't prove much.

For comparison, the aborted Minecraft movie Kickstarter campaign got lots of column-inches (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26118022) out of being shut down.  That level of news interest, coupled with the fact that they raised 10% of their target $0.6m budget within 24 hours, demonstrates a viable market for a potential officially licensed Minecraft movie, IMHO.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 20 May, 2014, 07:41:58 AM
Sheesh, you'd think we'd have seen at least a teaser trailer by now...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 May, 2014, 07:56:59 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 20 May, 2014, 07:41:58 AM
Sheesh, you'd think we'd have seen at least a teaser trailer by now...

Yeah but meanwhile we can enjoy again the trailer made by fan, (if you only ignore that out-of-touch Dredd badge!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJmFLdYBIVA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJmFLdYBIVA)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 May, 2014, 09:25:04 AM
Quote from: A.Cow on 20 May, 2014, 03:29:20 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 20 May, 2014, 12:30:08 AM
Really, how do you work that out?
How far do you think they'd let it progress before they shut it down? It wouldn't prove much.

For comparison, the aborted Minecraft movie Kickstarter campaign got lots of column-inches (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26118022) out of being shut down.  That level of news interest, coupled with the fact that they raised 10% of their target $0.6m budget within 24 hours, demonstrates a viable market for a potential officially licensed Minecraft movie, IMHO.

Minecraft is huge though, Dredd isn't and hadn't already had two cinema releases which didn't do well.

You said it yourself, their $.06m budget.

Dredd cost $35m.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 May, 2014, 10:22:51 AM
Maybe if a Kickstarter campaign helped fund a Dredd sequel's marketing budget, it could help take the pressure off the production budget, but I couldn't see it funding the sequel as a whole.

As stated before though, this doesn't seem like a route DNA Films can pursue due to the original film's complex funding structure.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 May, 2014, 10:28:59 AM
Sure, companies have tried using KS to part fund stuff.

e.g. Blur with the pre-production on the Goon.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/624061548/the-goon-movie-lets-kickstart-this-sucker (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/624061548/the-goon-movie-lets-kickstart-this-sucker)

But like you said, the financing seems complicated enough.


anyway, that's not what Karl was suggesting - which in itself is a totally different thing.

I just took it as trying to keep fans happy, rather than the more mundane reply of explaining IP, licensing etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 20 May, 2014, 12:39:53 PM
Are there any credible examples of movies (with a budget and production values at least equal to Dredd) being funded by a Kickstarter?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 May, 2014, 01:03:27 PM
The highest that I know of for a movie kickstarter is Veronica Mars at $5.7m(ish)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 20 May, 2014, 01:04:29 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 20 May, 2014, 12:39:53 PM
Are there any credible examples of movies (with a budget and production values at least equal to Dredd) being funded by a Kickstarter?

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/mar/13/veronica-mars-movie-fans-money-pressure-return-kickstarter-funded-marshmallows

(edit) Steve got there first.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 20 May, 2014, 01:05:19 PM
No.

Veronica Mars comes closest, raising nearly USD 6 million from nearly 100,000 backers, and it grossed an additional 3.5 million on release: no idea what additional funds Warners kicked in, or how that translates to actual money.  All very impressive, and I imagine everyone got paid, but leaving aside the larger support base, it wasn't exactly an effects-heavy SF action movie, or a box-office smash.
 
EDIT: Gah!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 May, 2014, 01:37:33 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2014/03/16/weekend-box-office-veronica-mars-earns-2m-need-for-speed-bombs/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2014/03/16/weekend-box-office-veronica-mars-earns-2m-need-for-speed-bombs/)

It's a bit of an oddity all round - it was available VOD at the same time as the theatrical release.

I think it's a similar issue to what Dredd has, a passionate fanbase, but not necessarily going to translate into a mainstream success.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 May, 2014, 04:04:43 PM
From Den of Geek; http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd/30602/karl-urban-calls-for-dredd-2-kickstarter (http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd/30602/karl-urban-calls-for-dredd-2-kickstarter) it update to the link from Comicbook

After Dredd 2? Karl Urban suggests crowdfunding may be the way forward...

It's the project that's not going away, and we're very glad to hear it. In spite of initially poor box office numbers for 2012's Dredd movie, the film has continued to do well on home formats, and talk of a sequel continues. It's been helped by the fact that the big screen's Judge Dredd himself, Karl Urban, has been backing the idea too.

There's still a proverbial mountain to climb to get the project off the ground, although Urban was at the Motor City Comic Con over the weekend, and was talking about the project again.

As ComicBook reports, Urban was always insistent that Dredd's mask would stay on, and the man clearly enjoyed making the film. But as for a sequel? Nothing has thus far been written (although Alex Garland has suggested that he'll be turning his attention to Dredd 2 before the year is out), but Urban confirmed he'd take the role again if it was offered. He then "urged the panel attendees to create a Kickstarter for it".

In principle, this is a fine plan. However, a new Dredd movie is likely to need $30-40m for physical production, and that's way beyond what any movie crowdfunding project has managed before. Still, we, and we suspect many others, would gladly put our hands in our pockets if it meant Dredd 2 would happen. We can't say we have a few million lying around under the bed, though.

We wait and see if the Dredd team takes the crowdfunding route...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 20 May, 2014, 04:09:51 PM
I thought that might be the case; I guess people are looking at a solution that barely worked for another film and extrapolating that similar would magically work for a Dredd sequel.

Much like the marketing for the movie ("Dark Knight marketing and advertising did thing why can't Dredd? whine whine etc./ ad nauseum")
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 May, 2014, 05:35:13 PM


The only crowdfunding projects that even approach the level of funding a feature like Dredd would require -just to get made- are video games -even then only one succeeded- but that's a different market.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_funded_crowdfunding_projects
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 20 May, 2014, 05:51:13 PM
On the subject of videogames and kickstarter, Ben "Yahtzee" Crowshaw (he of Zero Punctuation) made some good points*:

Quote...I think Kickstarter is one of the troublemakers. It's a system wherein people are asked to pay for something based solely on a description, and in that environment, nostalgia is king. Projects that pledge to recreate old games you used to like are virtually guaranteed to make the money back. And through that process you can see microcosmic examples of nostalgia becoming a conduit for conservatism and mistrust of the outsider...

...But even outside Kickstarter we live in a time that has never been more obsessed with asking people what they want with every painful step. What with 'early access' and the endemic leaking of details to gauge audience reaction. And we all know by now what happens when you ask people what they want, don't we? They say they want the same stuff they already like. Culture is less and less about art, of creators making what interests them, and more and more about cynically making whatever has the bigger guarantee of money. Not that that's anything new, but the trend of turning game design into a conversation that we're all involved in results in bland design-by-committee being taken to a whole new level...

*You can find the whole article (mostly about the rose tinted glasses of nostalgia) here (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/extra-punctuation/10990-The-Nostalgia-Factor)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 20 May, 2014, 10:22:16 PM
Great article, cheers Pops!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 20 May, 2014, 10:33:23 PM
It's a pity to Christ, they couldn't make another game like Rogue Trooper, not a big game fan but loved it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 21 May, 2014, 11:41:35 PM
(http://www.sfs-cn.com/node3/ypjs/node25951/node25956/images/236826.jpg)

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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 May, 2014, 11:47:49 PM
Nice :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 May, 2014, 10:58:38 AM
Awesome!

Never see this picture of Lex before :)

(http://www.sfs-cn.com/node3/ypjs/node25951/node25956/images/00236681.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Krakajac on 22 May, 2014, 01:02:39 PM
Lex's helmet seems to 'sit' a lot better than the other Judges in the film.  Lex's eyes look like they're in the right position.  The shot above shows just how good the helmet looks when they get it positioned correctly.  Pity they couldn't get Dredd's to look like this.

Case in point...

(http://theshootening.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/2141478_0e2efb77.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 22 May, 2014, 01:12:18 PM
Maybe they could make another Film Judge Lex: Lawbreaker! tag line: how a Judge became corrupted by the mean streets he patrolled! :P

Oh the humanity. I'd watch it though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 May, 2014, 01:44:53 PM
Some more behind the scenes of the Stunt/Body Doubles have been posted on Planet Replica's facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.671032399599452.1073741829.210243555678341&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.671032399599452.1073741829.210243555678341&type=1)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/10363679_671032776266081_9188157884197816878_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 22 May, 2014, 02:50:48 PM
Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

Had the misfortune to watch Hansel and Gretel last night (comparable budget to Dredd),utter dross YET according to box office mojo it made $55 million domestic US and $170 million abroad !!! Talk of a sequel too.

It's a sick sick world  :-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Theblazeuk on 22 May, 2014, 04:20:20 PM
Marketing. Availability. Availability in 2D.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: vzzbux on 22 May, 2014, 10:44:45 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 22 May, 2014, 02:50:48 PM
Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

Had the misfortune to watch Hansel and Gretel last night (comparable budget to Dredd),utter dross YET according to box office mojo it made $55 million domestic US and $170 million abroad !!! Talk of a sequel too.

It's a sick sick world  :-\
Which Hansel and Gretel film was it. I had the misfortune to watch the dross of a B movie based in an american high school. Spent most of the film counting how many times the extra with the very large afro appeared.





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Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackest on 23 May, 2014, 11:21:07 AM
i think he's talking about Tommy Wirkola version.he did dead snow.it's trash but i liked it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 23 May, 2014, 12:57:50 PM
Yup that's the one.

Incredibly short too. Take out the intro and end credits and its around 1hr 15mins.

Still FAR too long for my liking though. :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 May, 2014, 04:05:35 PM
Good video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSpgGHd0A2E&list=UUK9A_4NesyWlJ-NoC4dRbdA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSpgGHd0A2E&list=UUK9A_4NesyWlJ-NoC4dRbdA)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 23 May, 2014, 04:33:30 PM
Great Vid Goaty  :thumbsup: Nice find.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dash Decent on 24 May, 2014, 02:15:29 AM
Great!

Stallone: "But I'm just so pretty!"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 25 May, 2014, 11:19:23 AM
I know it's been shown before somewhere on the forum but here it is again. If they ever make a DREDD 2 we want more of this please. Some ghastly advertising has to be endured before the gore show.
 
http://youtu.be/n4SZcQSjjME
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 30 May, 2014, 05:58:22 PM
More BTS from Planet Replicas.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.674452405924118.1073741831.210243555678341&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.674452405924118.1073741831.210243555678341&type=1)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 May, 2014, 11:42:28 PM
Sorry but I must be only one loved Dredd's Lawmaster!

(http://i.imgur.com/9nRAW7s.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 May, 2014, 11:44:18 PM
Oh would be great if Dredd had that in film with Mega-City 1 CGI in background?

(http://i.imgur.com/JVn91dY.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 31 May, 2014, 02:24:02 PM
Nope. I love that Lawmaster too. It looks like a shark. Savage and imposing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 31 May, 2014, 04:15:52 PM
The Lawmaster maybe is less aesthetically pleasing from some angles, but from others it's Grud-damn gorgeous!

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/imagejpg1-1.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/imagejpg1-1.jpg.html)


(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/imagejpg2.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/imagejpg2.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: 8-Ball on 31 May, 2014, 05:59:55 PM
It is a perfectly acceptable design and it fits in well with the more streamlined no-nonsense DREDD universe. However the handlebars are really weedy. I prefer my ideal Lawmaster to have that Raleigh Chopper-on-steroids feel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 31 May, 2014, 07:24:14 PM
I love the design, and have done right from the opening shots of it in the film. When I first saw Dredd tearing through the traffic on it, it was all I could do not to cheer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 31 May, 2014, 07:38:08 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 31 May, 2014, 07:24:14 PM
I love the design, and have done right from the opening shots of it in the film. When I first saw Dredd tearing through the traffic on it, it was all I could do not to cheer.

Very much this. Bike. With guns. Everything else is arguing over details.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Ghost MacRoth on 31 May, 2014, 07:51:27 PM
The one thing both Dredd films had in common was shit Lawmasters.  The 2012 one is certainly less shit, but still not a decent representation of lawmaster for my money.  Thankfully, the rest of the film made up for it though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 31 May, 2014, 07:52:51 PM
The bike is fantastic from certain angles: back and side on. I felt the front on look was a tad bland and had a kinda 80's aspect to it. It dwarfed the machine guns and cut down on the menacing look more evident from a side profile view. But this is mere comment, on the budget to hand, they did a great job. Z
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 May, 2014, 09:30:35 PM


From a recent interview with Adi Shankar (http://moviehole.net/201476071adi-shankar-1984-private-defense-contractors):



[ He's also proud of 1984 Private Defense Contractors' slate of short films, one of which is set to make very big waves very soon...

Shankar talks about the passionate "Dredd" devotees.


"The fan base keeps growing to the point where the growth has eclipsed the intense depression I felt from the film's initial commercial outcome," he says. "So for the past year and a half I've been working on an 'unofficial' Dredd short. Tonally it's very different to the movie, and like all my 'Bootleg Universe' shorts, it's 100 percent for the fans. A thank you for being so damn loyal"
  ]







Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 31 May, 2014, 10:54:59 PM
Whens the short due? Should have been out by now....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 May, 2014, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 31 May, 2014, 10:54:59 PM
Should have been out by now....


I see no reason why.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 31 May, 2014, 11:08:27 PM
Adi set a date about 8 months ago for mid May. :|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 May, 2014, 11:20:00 PM



I don't recall that he ever gave a date. Last January he said a third of it was completed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 May, 2014, 11:20:38 PM
Maybe he hold it for 9th June (Goaty's birthday)  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 31 May, 2014, 11:22:59 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 31 May, 2014, 11:20:00 PM



I don't recall that he ever gave a date. Last January he said a third of it was completed.

I could have sworn 'a few months' mentioned 'a few months ago'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 31 May, 2014, 11:24:15 PM
THAT recent? Blimey, sorry for the confusion chaps, I could have sworn we'd been expecting this longer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 31 May, 2014, 11:32:07 PM
From his twitter feed.

"@cbumbray glad to hear it Chris, and u gave DREDD a great review last year so I can't be too sad. Look out 4 my DREDD short in a few months."

Jan 24th this year.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 31 May, 2014, 11:33:21 PM
I think the first public mention was March 2013 in his Reddit AMA

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1am57s/i_am_adi_shankar_producer_of_the_grey_dredd/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1am57s/i_am_adi_shankar_producer_of_the_grey_dredd/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 June, 2014, 12:21:19 AM
That two months notice was quickly followed by Rebellion wanting to talk to Adi. A request was despatched via Twitter, from a droid. Intriguing, is it not!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2014, 12:41:22 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 June, 2014, 12:21:19 AM
That two months notice was quickly followed by Rebellion wanting to talk to Adi. A request was despatched via Twitter, from a droid. Intriguing, is it not!


Maybe disclaimers were discussed (not something Adi's bothered with before).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 June, 2014, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 31 May, 2014, 09:30:35 PM


From a recent interview with Adi Shankar (http://moviehole.net/201476071adi-shankar-1984-private-defense-contractors):



[ He's also proud of 1984 Private Defense Contractors' slate of short films, one of which is set to make very big waves very soon...

Shankar talks about the passionate "Dredd" devotees.


"The fan base keeps growing to the point where the growth has eclipsed the intense depression I felt from the film's initial commercial outcome," he says. "So for the past year and a half I've been working on an 'unofficial' Dredd short. Tonally it's very different to the movie, and like all my 'Bootleg Universe' shorts, it's 100 percent for the fans. A thank you for being so damn loyal"
  ]

I'm curious to see what direction he goes in.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 01 June, 2014, 10:04:49 PM
Personally, I think it's disgraceful that he's not on here giving regular updates as to what he's doing and involving the fans in every step of the process.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 01 June, 2014, 10:15:15 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 01 June, 2014, 10:04:49 PM
Personally, I think it's disgraceful that he's not on here giving regular updates as to what he's doing and involving the fans in every step of the process.

His probably keen to avoid discussions on flying cars and helmet size!   :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 01 June, 2014, 10:19:44 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 01 June, 2014, 10:15:15 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 01 June, 2014, 10:04:49 PM
Personally, I think it's disgraceful that he's not on here giving regular updates as to what he's doing and involving the fans in every step of the process.

His probably keen to avoid discussions on flying cars and helmet size!   :lol:
Ego's to big.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 01 June, 2014, 11:03:26 PM
I believe Mr. Clements was merely being sarky.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 01 June, 2014, 11:07:59 PM
Quote from: M.I.K. on 01 June, 2014, 11:03:26 PM
I believe Mr. Clements was merely being sarky.

I find that VERY hard to believe.

Cheers!

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 02 June, 2014, 01:56:46 AM
...and the same goes for him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Proudhuff on 02 June, 2014, 01:21:13 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQExWbnv6RM0hG8u_9ikohUPbTt6XJmgaQ3RmWUg1Zayz8PnzYROg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 June, 2014, 07:24:59 PM
Will be away for a week, so there should be any news by 9th june (my birthday) cos Goaty is the Law!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 10 June, 2014, 02:49:43 PM
New Last Exit to Nowhere magazine ad features Dredd on its own, rather than the usual montage...

(http://www.aptronym.co.uk/page.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 June, 2014, 03:16:24 PM
I saw that in Empire last night and had to do a double take. Full page add and it's only Dredd, impressive!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2014, 03:43:13 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 01 June, 2014, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 31 May, 2014, 09:30:35 PM


From a recent interview with Adi Shankar (http://moviehole.net/201476071adi-shankar-1984-private-defense-contractors):

"So for the past year and a half I've been working on an 'unofficial' Dredd short. Tonally it's very different to the movie, and like all my 'Bootleg Universe' shorts, it's 100 percent for the fans."

I'm curious to see what direction he goes in.


Could be schlockier, more parodic, or noirish. Interesting to see how he handles Dredd as a presence or full character- without Urban I presume.

Going by past history, both Dirty Laundry and Truth in Journalism debuted at San Diego Comic-Con, so maybe his DREDD fan-film will follow suit and be released this July.




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 June, 2014, 04:57:35 PM
Quote from: Banners on 10 June, 2014, 02:49:43 PM
New Last Exit to Nowhere magazine ad features Dredd on its own, rather than the usual montage...

(http://www.aptronym.co.uk/page.jpg)

Which is also inside Magna, the car park of which is where Banners was lying on the floor getting his head blown off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 June, 2014, 05:06:50 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 June, 2014, 03:43:13 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 01 June, 2014, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 31 May, 2014, 09:30:35 PM


From a recent interview with Adi Shankar (http://moviehole.net/201476071adi-shankar-1984-private-defense-contractors):

"So for the past year and a half I've been working on an 'unofficial' Dredd short. Tonally it's very different to the movie, and like all my 'Bootleg Universe' shorts, it's 100 percent for the fans."

I'm curious to see what direction he goes in.


Could be schlockier, more parodic, or noirish. Interesting to see how he handles Dredd as a presence or full character- without Urban I presume.

Going by past history, both Dirty Laundry and Truth in Journalism debuted at San Diego Comic-Con, so maybe his DREDD fan-film will follow suit and be released this July.

Would be great if it did.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 10 June, 2014, 05:37:45 PM
Quote from: Steve Green

Which is also inside Magna, the car park of which is where Banners was lying on the floor getting his head blown off.
/quote]

Heh - and looking so much younger...!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 June, 2014, 11:21:19 AM
Does Judge Dredd creator John Wagner and Carlos Ezquerra get any royalties from the DREDD movie? I assume they got some sort of payment or commission fee to begin with but do they get anything from

I remember that the film 'Road to Perdition' was based on a Graphic Novel but the Novel's creator apparently didn't receive anything from the success of RtP. Did John and Carlos   
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 June, 2014, 11:23:29 AM
Some errors in that post! :-[ But you get the gist of it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Trout on 15 June, 2014, 03:58:17 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 June, 2014, 11:21:19 AM
Does Judge Dredd creator John Wagner and Carlos Ezquerra get any royalties from the DREDD movie? I assume they got some sort of payment or commission fee to begin with but do they get anything from

I remember that the film 'Road to Perdition' was based on a Graphic Novel but the Novel's creator apparently didn't receive anything from the success of RtP. Did John and Carlos

Yes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 15 June, 2014, 09:00:27 PM
Yo, Goaty!  Your design is getting everywhere!!

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x32/scowling_monkey/Goatystee_zps7240f5c3.jpg) (http://s186.photobucket.com/user/scowling_monkey/media/Goatystee_zps7240f5c3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 15 June, 2014, 09:08:42 PM
That was a post in the Brit-Cit Judges group on Facebook.  I have fully credited you, including a link to this thread:

http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,34200.3930.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 June, 2014, 09:10:40 PM
WoW! What an awesome shirt! That is great! Where you find that? Feelings so proud of my work! even it fan art!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 June, 2014, 09:13:24 PM
And if the question is 'Do John and Carlos get any royalties from unlicensed stuff from the movie' then the answer is 'no'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 15 June, 2014, 09:17:01 PM
I have another question.  'Do John and Carlos get any royalties from licensed stuff from the movie?'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 15 June, 2014, 09:18:19 PM
I'm not being sarcastic or anything, I genuinely want to know.  Because I think they should!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 June, 2014, 09:20:48 PM
Ask John at LFCC and report Goaty to him for his shonky goods.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 June, 2014, 09:29:28 PM
I don't know for sure on specific movie merch, but Keith says that they do when talking about official licensed around 51 mins in.

http://traffic.libsyn.com/ecbt2000ad/ECBT2000AD-Pye_Parr_Keith_Richardson.mp3 (http://traffic.libsyn.com/ecbt2000ad/ECBT2000AD-Pye_Parr_Keith_Richardson.mp3)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 June, 2014, 01:58:50 PM
Dredd will at Cineworld Sheffield on July 1st at 19:00.

They are supporting the make a Dredd sequel, tickets only £6.00 plus great extras from WorldofSuperheroes.com on the night.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 17 June, 2014, 10:05:47 PM
Bum. Only in Sheffield? Apparently so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 19 June, 2014, 09:04:28 AM
I am happy to report that after getting married, having two kids and a mortgage, I have finally got the tv I always wanted - a freakin' large 3D tv with a freakin' awesome home theatre.

So no prizes for guessing what was the first 3D bluray I bought.

Yep, that's right: Tintin.

The kids love it.

So much so that the promise of it means that they'll leave me alone for 95 minutes so I can watch Dredd the way it was meant to be. Life is good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 19 June, 2014, 09:54:10 AM
So we're all piling round to Vinces gaff lads ans lassies!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 19 June, 2014, 10:54:03 AM
I'll put the kettle on...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 19 June, 2014, 11:18:11 AM
Is Tintin any good in 3D then?  may get that...

I can't wait until my kids are old enough to watch Dredd with me.  I'm thinking 15 years old would be a reasonable age (I watched far worse films when I was much younger than that), which means I have 4 years before I can watch it with my eldest.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 21 June, 2014, 08:09:18 AM
Tintin is alright for the kids, looks pretty good in 3D - way better than I was expecting. Can be pretty funny at times in ways that tend to go over the kids heads.

My kids are just coming to the age when we can watch Star Wars together, a few more years and it'll be Lord of the Rings and then several more and it'll be Dredd. They already know the character pretty well from the comics and artifacts around the house.

My five year old like playing Dredd vs Death (and Rogue Trooper) on the PC too. Can't fault him too much there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 June, 2014, 08:07:30 PM
Olivia Thirlby Talks Potential Dredd Sequel at Tribeca Film Festival

http://tribecafilm.com/stories/olivia-thirlby-dredd-2 (http://tribecafilm.com/stories/olivia-thirlby-dredd-2)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Woolly on 24 June, 2014, 09:08:35 PM
Don't know if this is the best thread forthis, but there's a bloody superb Urban dredd by Chris Weston on Comics Alliance...

http://comicsalliance.com/best-art-ever-this-week-01-24-13/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 24 June, 2014, 09:16:44 PM
Quote from: Woolly on 24 June, 2014, 09:08:35 PM
Don't know if this is the best thread forthis, but there's a bloody superb Urban dredd by Chris Weston on Comics Alliance...

http://comicsalliance.com/best-art-ever-this-week-01-24-13/

(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2014/01/Bes2f-PCQAEvLtt.jpg-large.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 24 June, 2014, 09:32:41 PM
Dear Tharg,

Please commission a Chris Weston 'Dredd' episode for an upcoming Megazine.

Love and hugs,

PRESUMABLY EVERYONE.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 24 June, 2014, 10:25:47 PM
Agreed - a Weston Urban Dredd strip is a dream thing.

That gun is beefy though  :O
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 24 June, 2014, 10:49:23 PM
Does Weston never sleep? How does he do it?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 25 June, 2014, 02:32:45 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 24 June, 2014, 09:32:41 PM
Dear Tharg,
Please commission a Chris Weston 'Dredd' episode for an upcoming Megazine.
Love and hugs,
PRESUMABLY EVERYONE.

Yes this would be great.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 25 June, 2014, 02:49:12 PM
Yes that Weston art is quite incredible!
Put me down for a Weston drawn movie Dredd strip in the future also!

That Thirlby interview clip was priceless too!
She's a real sweetie, hope she gets a chance to reprise her role!   :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fragminion on 25 June, 2014, 05:22:32 PM


(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2014/01/Bes2f-PCQAEvLtt.jpg-large.jpg)
[/quote]

That's just what the movie needed.....MORE DAYSTICK!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 25 June, 2014, 05:23:29 PM
Slo-Mo only rated #3 fictional drug at watchmojo. This perturbs me for some reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgTahwC_VfM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgTahwC_VfM)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 June, 2014, 08:06:10 PM
Nice fan art poster by Mancat Design

(http://i.imgur.com/OpSP5bf.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 25 June, 2014, 11:24:26 PM
Stop, drop and roll, Dredd!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 26 June, 2014, 01:10:04 AM

Judge Fiyah!


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 26 June, 2014, 01:23:48 PM
No doubt this was answered long ago...but does anyone know what Ma Ma means by 'Red Territory' ?
Caleb says they are making in roads to sectors 9 and 15 and she says '15 is still red territory'. I took that to be a rival gang like 'The Judged' also being known as 'Red'. Only now I'm wondering if that's actually a nod to a failed East Meg One invasion, a final mop up after the war.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 26 June, 2014, 02:02:40 PM
The reds are a rival gang.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 26 June, 2014, 02:50:32 PM
"I'm burning, just not flailing about in agony"
Title: Re: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 26 June, 2014, 03:03:22 PM
Quote from: radiator on 26 June, 2014, 02:02:40 PM
The reds are a rival gang.

Cheers Radiator.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 26 June, 2014, 03:36:08 PM
Can't remember exactly what the gang is called - could just be The Reds, but pretty sure you can see all of the gang names on the animated diagram of Peach Trees during the Ma Ma montage (showing how the Ma Ma Clan took over Peach Trees from all the other gangs).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 26 June, 2014, 03:41:55 PM
I'll have a look at the animated screen. They mention The Judged, The Red Dragons and The Peyote Kings....so of course It must refer to the red dragons. I just wondered with the uniforms being so beaten up, could be post Apocalypse war MC1.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 26 June, 2014, 03:54:10 PM
I always assumed the gangs Ma-Ma wiped out were particular to that block only.  From that you could infer 'Red territory' is another gang not related to the Red Dragons at all. It could be a gang just called 'The Reds'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 June, 2014, 03:55:16 PM
either Red for Sov-lovers or;

(http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/images/stories/ging425.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 26 June, 2014, 04:28:03 PM
QuoteI always assumed the gangs Ma-Ma wiped out were particular to that block only.  From that you could infer 'Red territory' is another gang not related to the Red Dragons at all. It could be a gang just called 'The Reds'.

Doubt it, it's clearly implied that the Clan has influence that extends outside of Peach Trees, and they have stated ambitions to 'take the whole city'. I'm not really up on my street gang knowledge but I just assumed the gangs in PT were just local subdivisions of larger gangs - with the exception of the Clan which strikes me as an upstart kind of operation.

On a related note, I remember Alex mentioning that he had researched Asian street gangs for the look of the gangs in Dredd - the face tattoos etc.

Anyway, had some eBay vouchers to use up so I caved and ordered the Japanese Dredd Steelbook, and Sod's Law dictates that they will announce a much more affordable UK or US steelbook/Collector's edition next week.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 26 June, 2014, 05:11:39 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 26 June, 2014, 03:55:16 PM
either Red for Sov-lovers or;

(http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/images/stories/ging425.jpg)
Not a soul in that photo
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 26 June, 2014, 05:18:07 PM
'15 is Ginger territory'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 28 June, 2014, 12:52:38 PM
There's a Zimbio 'best comic film adaptation' contest flying around Facebook at the moment. Dredd has flattened all comers. Zimbio have added a feature about it:

http://m.zimbio.com/Beyond+the+Box+Office/articles/VyfWL_fASx8/11+Reasons+Dredd+Fans+Crazy+Devoted+Dredd
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 June, 2014, 01:50:59 PM
At the moment it's DREDD 74% - Dark Knight 26%
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 28 June, 2014, 03:36:07 PM
That's great to hear. There is obviously an awsome demand for a sequel out there. Z
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 28 June, 2014, 05:05:11 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 28 June, 2014, 12:52:38 PM
There's a Zimbio 'best comic film adaptation' contest flying around Facebook at the moment. Dredd has flattened all comers. Zimbio have added a feature about it:

http://m.zimbio.com/Beyond+the+Box+Office/articles/VyfWL_fASx8/11+Reasons+Dredd+Fans+Crazy+Devoted+Dredd

Those pictures showing Urban's emotional range made me smile...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 29 June, 2014, 11:57:33 PM
Great piece and truly deserves a sequel. It is one of the few films I can watch and never get tired of  :).
For fuck sake can somebody somewhere get the sequel off the ground and were's that bloody short film disappeared too . I've had my rant now I'm off to bed  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 30 June, 2014, 12:08:41 AM
Nite, nite there Chiefaroonry.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 July, 2014, 07:52:35 PM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 29 June, 2014, 11:57:33 PM
Great piece and truly deserves a sequel. It is one of the few films I can watch and never get tired of  :).
For fuck sake can somebody somewhere get the sequel off the ground and were's that bloody short film disappeared too . I've had my rant now I'm off to bed  :lol:

Let's see if anything of the short pops up at San Diego...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 July, 2014, 08:16:55 PM
Unintentionally hilarious fan photoshop on twitter:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoQ0cAzIMAABDW6.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 02 July, 2014, 08:38:27 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 July, 2014, 08:45:14 PM
Erm...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 02 July, 2014, 11:12:44 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 July, 2014, 11:15:32 PM
Hot.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 July, 2014, 12:25:07 AM
Poor Lauren :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 July, 2014, 12:39:35 AM
Looks like Dredd's been rummaging through Anderson's knicker drawer again!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 July, 2014, 08:50:25 AM
Yeah, I think that popped up on facebook a while back.

"Forget Greg, Burdis, or even the movie costume as a background, we'll stick Karl's head on a 5' 2" petite female psi judge".

I'm praying they were seduced by the CGI trickery.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 03 July, 2014, 05:16:27 PM
Today someone took the time to search, find my blog, click on the article I catchily titled as 'Dredd (2012) Retrospective – SPOILER HEAVY (intended for those that have seen the theatrical release)' and THEN say in the comments:

Quote from: B
bub
Pal u need to get out more it's a film

Outstanding.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 July, 2014, 12:49:43 AM



Drokk-Machina (http://www.factmag.com/2014/07/04/portishead-geoff-barrow-ben-salisbury-to-score-alex-garland-ex-machina/)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 July, 2014, 12:56:46 AM
That's nice for them!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Trout on 05 July, 2014, 04:13:38 AM
Was this Dredd film any good?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 05 July, 2014, 05:17:12 AM
Quote from: Trout on 05 July, 2014, 04:13:38 AM
Was this Dredd film any good?

Nah. The Stallone one was better.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 05 July, 2014, 11:06:22 AM
The Raid, sighted here sometimes as DREDD's bane is on Film 4 next week Friday the 11th of July at 10.55 pm.

Bah! Still it says 2011 on the Raids Film release date. Will it be another year before we see DREDD on terrestrial TV?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 05 July, 2014, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 05 July, 2014, 12:49:43 AM



Drokk-Machina (http://www.factmag.com/2014/07/04/portishead-geoff-barrow-ben-salisbury-to-score-alex-garland-ex-machina/)

Cool news!
DROKK was fantastic!    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 July, 2014, 03:50:18 PM
Just back after romantic weekend away in Lakes. So any news on Sequel or Short film?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 07 July, 2014, 03:53:20 PM
If there was, do you not think there might be at least one post about it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 07 July, 2014, 10:00:03 PM
On this forum?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 11 July, 2014, 02:34:25 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 05 July, 2014, 11:06:22 AM
The Raid, sighted here sometimes as DREDD's bane is on Film 4 next week Friday the 11th of July at 10.55 pm.

Bah! Still it says 2011 on the Raids Film release date. Will it be another year before we see DREDD on terrestrial TV?

Cool beans. I've been meaning to watch that again. Some of the fight scenes in The Raid 2 didn't quite feel up to scratch and I wondered if I was just remembering the original wrong. Or maybe its unnecessary 5 trillion hour running time meant I paid more attention when the action stepped up and was a little more critical.

And looking at the poor box office for The Raid 2, I wonder if they could have benefited from having the original film premier earlier (assuming this is the first showing).

When Dredd v Caligula: Dawn Of Darkness comes out in early 2016 I hope the original Dredd will have already hit TV screens a good 4 months earlier.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 July, 2014, 04:18:47 AM
Yeah, I definitely think the chop fooey was better in the first than the second. Maybe the second film had different choreographers or Evans deliberately gave the two and a half hour plot his priority. I don't know. Whatever the case, I'd rather watch the original.

Even if some of the similarities with Dredd are quite jarring..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2014, 05:33:07 PM


Apparently Adi Shankar's Dredd fan-film will be shown at New York Comic Con (October 9-12, 2014).





Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 July, 2014, 09:16:39 PM
Geeat news Joe!   :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2014, 09:18:09 PM
Really? How you know?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2014, 09:26:57 PM


He'll be appearing there to promote Bollywood's Gangs Of Wasseypur and hinted at another short:


https://twitter.com/adishankarbrand/status/487485754386309120
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 July, 2014, 09:31:55 PM
(http://33.media.tumblr.com/5290acd4afb5a7b67d45e6ef9ea389a4/tumblr_mvvaoyiT1h1qedvmno1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 12 July, 2014, 11:35:57 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2014, 09:26:57 PM
He'll be appearing there to promote Bollywood's Gangs Of Wasseypur and hinted at another short:

I have NO idea how you drew that conclusion from what you just presented.

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 July, 2014, 01:48:39 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 12 July, 2014, 11:35:57 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2014, 09:26:57 PM
He'll be appearing there to promote Bollywood's Gangs Of Wasseypur and hinted at another short:

I have NO idea how you drew that conclusion from what you just presented.


On Gangs of Wasseypur


"Shankar will boost the pic to his fan base online and at events like New York Comic-Con in October, where he's scheduled to appear. " (http://www.deadline.com/2014/07/gangs-of-wasseypur-anurag-kashyap-north-america-release-cinelicious/)


In the spirit of speculation I don't think it's too much of a stretch to think he might not be going to the New York Comic Con (http://www.newyorkcomiccon.com/) purely to promote Indian gangster epic Gangs of Wasseypur.

It seems apparent from his smiley emblazoned response to a question on his twitter feed about the release of another 'Shankar short', and considering both his previous comic-shorts were debuted at previous Comic Cons, that his appearance at NYCC, instead of SDCC, would also be an ideal event to present his Dredd fan-film which he previously annonuced would be released this year in at least two publications– but if you believe it's a presumption too far ...



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Proudhuff on 16 July, 2014, 12:18:02 PM
hmmmm....

(http://www.tor.com/images/stories/blogs/12_04/elektra.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Proudhuff on 16 July, 2014, 12:19:35 PM

(http://images.moviepostershop.com/dredd-movie-poster-2012-1010751986.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 16 July, 2014, 12:28:25 PM
One might speculate that this is the before and after of an epic tussle between Joe and Ms. Natchios.

One might also ponder the posing of women in advertising.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 16 July, 2014, 04:26:23 PM
At least a woman can do that pose. Unlike many poses you see on US Comic covers...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 16 July, 2014, 09:24:26 PM
'Shouts from back of theater'

Oh my god! What the hell is wrong with your spine?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 July, 2014, 04:28:59 PM
Face-Off: Judge Dredd vs Dredd.

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/fo-face-off-dredd-2012-vs-judge-dredd-1995 (http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/fo-face-off-dredd-2012-vs-judge-dredd-1995)
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 18 July, 2014, 07:45:56 AM
Most interesting thing about that is that they appear to have Dredd in profit for its theatrical run. Updated figures or wishful thinking ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 18 July, 2014, 11:24:14 AM
QuoteThanks to an extensive budget and designs that realize the heightened-reality aesthetic of Mega City One, the Stallone JUDGE DREDD got just about everything right... except the lead character.
And the script. And the depiction of the Judges. And the uniform. And the shiny shiny nature of MC-1, which might glitter like a jewel at a distance, but is usually pretty nasty up close in the comics. Etc.

QuoteAs for DREDD, it's a half-decent sci-fi riff on DIE HARD, and the "gritty realism" might make it a rewarding action flick... just not a particularly good Judge Dredd movie, as its Mega City One bears little resemblance to the comic universe.
The external shots don't, but anyone watching this movie and thinking it far removed from Dredd presumably hasn't read much Dredd and certainly hasn't read any Dredd for well over a decade.

Quote... when the comic character is mostly defined by his interactions with the ludicrous citizenry and situations of the sprawling metropolis...
"I last actually read Judge Dredd in 1987!"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 18 July, 2014, 01:45:02 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 18 July, 2014, 11:24:14 AM
"I last actually read Judge Dredd in 1987!"

I was reading his article and thought exactly the same thing!   :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 18 July, 2014, 03:14:36 PM
At least his verdict was the right one even if his judgement is a little faulty.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 18 July, 2014, 04:20:01 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 18 July, 2014, 03:14:36 PM
At least his verdict was the right one even if his judgement is a little faulty.

I knoo you'd say that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 18 July, 2014, 04:26:01 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 18 July, 2014, 04:20:01 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 18 July, 2014, 03:14:36 PM
At least his verdict was the right one even if his judgement is a little faulty.

I MOO you'd say that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 July, 2014, 03:10:58 PM
This is awesome.

(http://i.imgur.com/R2f1pXw.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 25 July, 2014, 03:14:56 PM
[spoiler]Nomnomnom Peach Trees penis is the best nomnomnom[/spoiler]

:o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 25 July, 2014, 04:45:10 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 25 July, 2014, 03:10:58 PM
This is awesome mispelled.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 25 July, 2014, 05:28:21 PM
Well, assuming that you've decided that judgment isn't a perfectly acceptable spelling, for some reason...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 25 July, 2014, 05:36:35 PM
Er, no. I think it's kind of lame. Bit of an unfortunate composition too, as HM points out.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 25 July, 2014, 07:46:27 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 25 July, 2014, 04:45:10 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 25 July, 2014, 03:10:58 PM
This is awesome mispelled.

Fixed.

You've misspelt misspelled.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 03 August, 2014, 02:59:12 AM
I've tried reporting this on youtube, but it hasn't had any effect. Is there anyone who could contact Lionsgate to have it removed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=engxbwmwDLU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=engxbwmwDLU)

It just annoys the crap out of me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 August, 2014, 11:01:56 AM
Youtube seem to have a really weird attitude to removing stuff - I used some paid for stock music as a background for the Minty extras and it got pulled very quickly for having copyrighted music.

I had to contact the vendor to get it sorted.

Seems to be more audio/music that can get recognised automatically, or the owner has to be looking for it and make the complaint.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: 8-Ball on 03 August, 2014, 07:25:55 PM
Jeez, just looked at the video links, how many idiots have put the whole film on Youtube? On the three that I've seen i have put the same message in the comments, "I hope all the people watching this have at least purchased a copy of Dredd 3D." I'm all for spreading the message but this is too much. >:(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 07 August, 2014, 09:57:48 AM
Am I the only one that spotted this?

Spoiler alert: Dredd removes helmet

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/5/6/0/301560_v1.jpg)

/end spoiler [snort]

Courtesy of cracked.com

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 12 August, 2014, 08:42:17 AM
Mildly surprised this hasn't provoked any comment here...

https://twitter.com/RebellionJason/status/497754334789369856

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 12 August, 2014, 08:57:41 AM
Looks good. Where does the impetus for a potential sequel begin? Does it come from Rebellion, the production companies, Mr Urban, Mr Garland etc...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 12 August, 2014, 09:13:25 AM
Quote from: Banners on 12 August, 2014, 08:57:41 AM
Looks good. Where does the impetus for a potential sequel begin? Does it come from Rebellion, the production companies, Mr Urban, Mr Garland etc...?

I dunno. I'm not sensing much enthusiasm from the fanbase for it...

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 August, 2014, 09:17:24 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 12 August, 2014, 09:13:25 AM
I dunno. I'm not sensing much enthusiasm from the fanbase for it...

DREDD SEQUEL! DREDD SEQUEL! DREDD SEQUEL! DREDD SEQUEL! DREDD SEQUEL! DREDD SEQUEL! DREDD SEQUEL! DREDD SEQUEL! DREDD SEQUEL! DREDD SEQUEL!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 12 August, 2014, 09:44:40 AM
Quote from: Banners on 12 August, 2014, 08:57:41 AM
Looks good. Where does the impetus for a potential sequel begin? Does it come from Rebellion, the production companies, Mr Urban, Mr Garland etc...?
Wheels turn slowly but they do turn :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 12 August, 2014, 10:15:39 AM
I should confess a slight attack of mischievousness posting that... to be clear:

Covered the basic budget ≠ profit. There is a long list of things in the red ink column not covered under the main production budget that still need to be recouped. Depending on where they are in the investor/creditor food chain, I suspect there are a fair few people for whom Dredd 3D still sits pretty squarely in the minus column.

But... I suspect we're into 'no one lost their shirt' territory, which is hardly going to persuade anyone to pony up another fifty million bucks for a sequel but which pleases my sense of natural justice in as much as it's a decent movie, clearly made with love of the source material, and all involved certainly didn't deserve to take a financial beating for making it.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 August, 2014, 11:05:37 AM
'A lot missing from this as well...' ?

What does that mean?  I thought the film lost money not made it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 12 August, 2014, 11:17:37 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 August, 2014, 11:05:37 AM
What does that mean?  I thought the film lost money not made it.

I assume he's referring to other revenue streams not listed in the linked figures, like Netflix who presumably contribute a royalty based on number of streams, and non-US blu-ray and DVD sales, which aren't included there and which — I would imagine — are not inconsiderable.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 August, 2014, 01:56:22 PM
DREDD could be heading towards the black financially? That's very good news though as others have pointed out no one seems to be falling over themselves to invest heavily in another movie.

Still towards the positive rather than negative I'd say.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Proudhuff on 12 August, 2014, 02:12:36 PM
good news, hopefully someone somewhere is putting together a $ package, after all better this that a totally unknown?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 August, 2014, 05:33:26 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 August, 2014, 11:05:37 AM
'A lot missing from this as well...' ?

What does that mean?  I thought the film lost money not made it.

There's been no official figure, or statement, declaring how much the film actually earned -or lost- and probably never will be as studio info like that is rarely published. All estimates are made by third-parties like the numbers website which collates figures from worldwide box-office and some of the major retail outlets in the US like Wal-Mart et al; so there are no DVD/Blu-ray figures for anywhere but the US available on that website.

However the British Video Association published UK figures that said Dredd had earned approx. $10 million from UK video sales nor are the any earnings for Electronic Sell Through or TV/VOD sales.

What it has made globally is unknown and the amount published by the numbers doesn't account for how much the studio(s) earned since earnings are spilt between distributors and studios.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 12 August, 2014, 05:45:36 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 August, 2014, 05:33:26 PM
There's been no official figure, or statement, declaring how much the film actually earned -or lost- and probably never will be as studio info like that is rarely published

Not least because there are plenty of creative things a decent accountant can do with a loss on the P&L for a company, so it isn't always a bad thing. Conversely, some studios will do whatever they can to avoid admitting a movie made a profit in order to avoid paying out on profit share agreements with stars and directors.

(Not that I'm suggesting any of those things apply here — just that there are many, many reasons why you might never find out the final financial position of a movie.)

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jimmy Baker's Assistant on 12 August, 2014, 06:10:22 PM
Film accountancy is a black art. I'm sure, for the purposes of whatever tax regime applies, Dredd 3D made a massive loss. I'm also sure that, after the success of the Blu-ray release, the people who actually invested in the movie made a tidy return on their investment.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 August, 2014, 06:21:43 PM
It's a shit business...

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/09/how-hollywood-accounting-can-make-a-450-million-movie-unprofitable/245134/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/09/how-hollywood-accounting-can-make-a-450-million-movie-unprofitable/245134/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 August, 2014, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 August, 2014, 06:21:43 PM
It's a shit business...

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/09/how-hollywood-accounting-can-make-a-450-million-movie-unprofitable/245134/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/09/how-hollywood-accounting-can-make-a-450-million-movie-unprofitable/245134/)


Screwing the accounts is one thing but too many egos are getting big paydays for relatively small films before they're even made. The studio who paid for Shyamalan's Signs spent over $44 million on story rights, director/producer/actor's fees and travel while the actual shooting and making of the film cost approx. $35 million. Shyamalan himself was paid $15 million because it was his story and he was the Producer & Director and Mel Gibson, $25 million.


(http://www.thesmokinggun.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/750x970/documents/melsigns1.gif)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 August, 2014, 10:18:51 PM


The "breakdown" of Unbreakable:

(http://www.thesmokinggun.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/750x970/documents/willisunbreakable1.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 August, 2014, 10:28:56 PM
The Entourage bill for Bruce Willis is eye-watering.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 August, 2014, 10:00:50 AM
Wonder the post production VFX bill for the new Star Was will be?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 14 August, 2014, 10:07:14 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 August, 2014, 10:00:50 AM
Wonder the post production VFX bill for the new Star Was will be?

...and whether there'll be a separate line for lens flare.

Cheers!

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 August, 2014, 10:29:35 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 14 August, 2014, 10:07:14 AM
...and whether there'll be a separate line for lens flare.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GMNm0-0-Ko (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GMNm0-0-Ko)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 August, 2014, 10:59:37 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 14 August, 2014, 10:07:14 AM
...and whether there'll be a separate line for lens flare.
Cheers!
Jim
:lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 14 August, 2014, 11:14:34 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 14 August, 2014, 10:29:35 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 14 August, 2014, 10:07:14 AM
...and whether there'll be a separate line for lens flare.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GMNm0-0-Ko (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GMNm0-0-Ko)

I'm always bemused and depressed by the contrast between the content of the video and the bile in some of those youtube comments.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PreacherCain on 14 August, 2014, 08:27:30 PM
In fairness, Abrams has acknowledged the lens flare thing and how some people find it annoying. Personally I thought it worked really well in his Star Trek movies, where it suited the shiny, gleaming newness of everything. As far as I can tell, his Star Wars is going to follow the look of the original trilogy, where the technology and landscapes look more like a used scrapheap, showing how the world has fallen from a better time.

... Though I'm sure C3PO will have the odd lens flare bounce off him... :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 August, 2014, 08:30:21 PM
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdifdd0wkz1qg36bn.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 14 August, 2014, 10:03:10 PM
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/9/30/4788758/j-j-abrams-apologizes-for-his-overusing-lens-flares
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 August, 2014, 10:24:50 PM


That joke isn't funny anymore - Morrissey


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DrRocka on 15 August, 2014, 01:05:33 AM
Don't forget though, that shot at the end of the original Star Wars (fuck calling it episode 4), where the Falcon flies in to rescue Luke in the Death Star trench. That's the shot where lens flare CAME FROM, I say.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 August, 2014, 08:29:45 AM
Quote from: DrRocka on 15 August, 2014, 01:05:33 AM
Don't forget though, that shot at the end of the original Star Wars (fuck calling it episode 4), where the Falcon flies in to rescue Luke in the Death Star trench. That's the shot where lens flare CAME FROM, I say.

Lens flare has existed since then invention of lenses and lens flare as part of a style in Hollywood films is apparent in films shot by Haskell Wexler and Conrad Hall in the 1960's.

Cool Hand Luke (1971)

(http://pilgrimakimbo.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/luke-1.jpg)



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 August, 2014, 08:31:18 AM


Or rather Cool Hand Luke (1967)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 August, 2014, 08:47:16 AM
Even in a little film called Dredd (hear of it?)

(http://ryandhowe.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/opening3.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 15 August, 2014, 08:52:02 AM
Quote from: DrRocka on 15 August, 2014, 01:05:33 AM
Don't forget though, that shot at the end of the original Star Wars (fuck calling it episode 4), where the Falcon flies in to rescue Luke in the Death Star trench. That's the shot where lens flare CAME FROM, I say.

The whole Death Star assault sequence is Lucas' homage to WWII movies, as such the arrival of the Falcon is a deliberate callback to the 'coming in out of the sun' tactic. It's a lens artefact that most cinematographers work quite hard to avoid unless you want a specific effect — the sensation of being dazzled which is appropriate in the Falcon rescue shot, the Cool Hand Luke shot shown, and the one from Dredd.

Abrams use of it Star Trek was just fucking stupid.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 15 August, 2014, 03:54:07 PM
The lens flare on Star Trek seemed to be mostly while on the bridge of the Enterprise, as if to say 'ooh look at all the pretty lights and colours, glass and plastic surfaces, isn't this all clean and cool, shiny and techie, and futuristic as hell?'  It wasn't that obvious on the planet at the start of the second film, or the Klingon homeworld, or on Earth during the Spock/Sherlock fight scene.  As such, you could argue it served a specific purpose, and it's just a matter of tatse whether you thought it was over-utilised during those specific scenes.

It annoyed me though.  It was like wearing dirty contact lenses.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 15 August, 2014, 04:16:56 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 15 August, 2014, 03:54:07 PM
It annoyed me though.  It was like wearing dirty contact lenses.

I had to have my pupils dilated at my last eye examination... that's exactly what those lens-flarey sequences felt like.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 27 August, 2014, 01:21:15 PM
DREDD is showing as part of the Just About Movies festival at Tullibole Castle on Friday night I think.

I only have a ticket for the Saturday though - plus the missus*hated* it - so I won't be going to see it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 31 August, 2014, 05:13:34 PM
Planet Replicas have been posting a few more BTS pics on their facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.716219061747452.1073741834.210243555678341&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.716219061747452.1073741834.210243555678341&type=1)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 August, 2014, 06:53:37 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 31 August, 2014, 05:13:34 PM
Planet Replicas have been posting a few more BTS pics on their facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.716219061747452.1073741834.210243555678341&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.716219061747452.1073741834.210243555678341&type=1)

Love this;

(http://i.imgur.com/CVfYwbz.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 September, 2014, 03:09:26 PM
Taken from one of the lads who met Karl over at Dragon Con in Atlanta...

QuoteHe also mentioned that he's going to England soon to discuss possible financing avenues if a Dredd sequel could be greenlighted

Take from that what you want!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 September, 2014, 03:20:08 PM
Nice one, John! lol

Well he not busy at moment, is he?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 02 September, 2014, 05:25:03 PM
Surely you'll be seeing him while he is around Goaty...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 September, 2014, 04:28:13 PM
Perfect Shots ‏@OnePerfectShot on twitter, and they tweet one perfect shot of many films, and they did this yesterday, I agree with this Perfect shot;
(http://i.imgur.com/jt8HuB7.png)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Bissler on 03 September, 2014, 04:44:49 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 September, 2014, 03:09:26 PM
Taken from one of the lads who met Karl over at Dragon Con in Atlanta...

QuoteHe also mentioned that he's going to England soon to discuss possible financing avenues if a Dredd sequel could be greenlighted

Take from that what you want!

I'll take it with a pinch of salt but I will not give up hope of a sequel one day...  I've waited 18 years for a new album from my favourite band (Faith No More) and that's happening now.  So never say never!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 September, 2014, 05:12:03 PM
A few pics from Dragon Con over in Atlanta. These are from Lowell Gilbert, from The Judge Dredd Costuming Group

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10639695_10203541914643504_9082578870574064293_n.jpg?oh=9f3610e719a6fd64c70c98006ccc04dd&oe=547562D9&__gda__=1417107084_0f09a9a7574a3e5d7903e0c046470b02)

The Judge on the right (Lowell) is carrying some presentation pieces for Karl. Would you believe it, he never managed to keep a Dredd badge :o

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10641267_10203541914483500_2778490646225554758_n.jpg?oh=aa55ca855d77332184f5b6f8b8bda0bd&oe=547690A6&__gda__=1417331376_5ec0952b52472856e22f325ecd2d4c51)

And here are those pieces, which they handed over!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10492080_10203541913603478_6900114934183590601_n.jpg?oh=619530f12d314a9608f09df0fd8235c6&oe=546F5C3F&__gda__=1415759401_16658ed2ebac6166e43c7640b75b6adc)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10646653_10203541913843484_6812771472244545587_n.jpg?oh=3089dba5cb5e1eda083163a7b7def193&oe=547C9524&__gda__=1417224137_b87953916616f527f181e412897f0013)

A massive well done to our American cousins :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 September, 2014, 06:26:21 PM
Those pics are awesome!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 03 September, 2014, 09:14:55 PM
Great pics and as ever Karl is as tenacious as Dredd about Dredd , lets hope all his efforts on trying to secure a sequel come off. He IS Dredd just watched the film again and can't fault his performance. Any news on the proposed short film anyone ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 September, 2014, 09:41:26 PM
Last possible mention was New York Comic Con in October, but it wasn't a definite.

More Adi Shankar showing something, from what I remember.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 03 September, 2014, 09:49:40 PM
Cf the pics are just excellent!!! Well done the American lads and lassies. Simply brilliant, if anyone is talking to them pass on my hearty and very best wishes. Z (Thats really put a smile to my face)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 September, 2014, 10:12:09 PM
The Dredd Blu-ray is currently £4.99 from Zavvi, so what not bag a copy if you haven't already or tell everyone you know to if you have!    :thumbsup:

http://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/dredd-3d/10661460.html#customer-reviews
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 04 September, 2014, 07:56:20 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 03 September, 2014, 10:12:09 PM
The Dredd Blu-ray is currently £4.99 from Zavvi, so what not bag a copy if you haven't already or tell everyone you know to if you have!    :thumbsup:

http://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/dredd-3d/10661460.html#customer-reviews

Oh, the price has gone back up?!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 04 September, 2014, 07:24:08 PM
Cheers steve was hoping for an ultra violent short as in the same way dirty laundry was , always thought Tom Jane would have been a good Dredd but thunk Karl has made the role his now  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 06 September, 2014, 10:22:29 AM
There's still plenty of lurve for a D2 but whether that translates to someone being prepared to stomp up the cash we'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 06 September, 2014, 11:20:20 AM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 04 September, 2014, 07:24:08 PM
Cheers steve was hoping for an ultra violent short as in the same way dirty laundry was , always thought Tom Jane would have been a good Dredd but thunk Karl has made the role his now  :)

It will be interesting - he's kept his cards very close to his chest - could be something unexpected like Truth in Journalism.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 06 September, 2014, 07:07:41 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 06 September, 2014, 11:20:20 AM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 04 September, 2014, 07:24:08 PM
Cheers steve was hoping for an ultra violent short as in the same way dirty laundry was , always thought Tom Jane would have been a good Dredd but thunk Karl has made the role his now  :)

It will be interesting - he's kept his cards very close to his chest - could be something unexpected like Truth in Journalism.

Trouble is, Jane's as good at burying franchises as Urban seems to be...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 07 September, 2014, 10:48:34 AM
Think thats a bit unfair on Karl regarding Dredd as in my eyes it was piss poor promotion of the film that made it sink not the stars lack of appeal. Look at the love for the film now more people are aware of it, and thats through word of mouth through multi media sites like this one  :). If only the films financiers believed in its product it might have had a sequel already.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 07 September, 2014, 11:32:38 AM
Maybe there is something disturbing in the very concept of both movies. A futuristic neo fascist Policeman who worships the Law, a violent vigilante using the same methods of cold blooded murder that the violent criminals he hunts use. Violent authority is something we fear rather embrace though both films seem to have a theme that in a bleak world you make your own Justice no matter how compromised ethically that might be.

Judge Dredd exits in the aftermath of a Nuclear Holocaust where the only thing keeping society from total collapse is  State violence.  State violence it must be therefore the alternative being social chaos followed by a  brief period of Anarchy until starvation, disease  and cannibalism finish most of the human race off. The Punisher is set in a world of corruption where criminals out gun or out Lawyer the State so no Justice there for the average Cit. Vigilantism in the only alternative the Authorities either to weak;to compromised  or is even criminal itself.

Such ultra violent Action Movies are made for Adult audiences only and that's, I assume, not the demographic that generates most money these days it tends to be family orientated films. So you have to think that any bean counters commissioning a market study on whether they could make money from films of this type would look at the figures and say the word non of us want to hear - ' No.' :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 07 September, 2014, 12:10:03 PM
Think thats a bit unfair on Karl regarding Dredd as in my eyes it was piss poor promotion of the film that made it sink not the stars lack of appeal. Look at the love for the film now more people are aware of it, and thats through word of mouth through multi media sites like this one  :). If only the films financiers believed in its product it might have had a sequel already.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 07 September, 2014, 12:11:22 PM
Dont know why its posted twice  :-[ bloody phone lol
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 07 September, 2014, 08:02:25 PM
QuoteUpon meeting Karl, I had to ask, "Is there a possibility of maybe getting to see the dark judges in Dredd 2 or beyond?" He stopped what he was doing, and it was evident I struck the geek mark because his eyes lit up and he smiled as he answered, "Why yes, there is a definite possibility. But, it is more likely that we will do the origins story with Dredd trekking through the cursed earth to find the first Chief Judge Fargo."

http://shallowgraves.org/karl-urban-dishes-on-dredd-at-chicago-comic-con/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 September, 2014, 08:05:14 PM
Awesome, Karl knew what story he want to do on Dredd 2, the Origins :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 07 September, 2014, 08:20:06 PM
In other words, still following the line Garland suggested.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 September, 2014, 12:01:37 AM
Yeah, same line, basically. Though at least it's not yet being dismissed. I'll take that as a green light. #Clint4Fargo
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 September, 2014, 12:02:54 AM
Let's get that trending.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 08 September, 2014, 12:27:10 AM
Quote from: Stan on 08 September, 2014, 12:01:37 AM
#Clint4Fargo

I like that!
However I reckon Clint would push the budget up somewhat...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 08 September, 2014, 01:42:26 AM
That's two. :thumbsup:

Maybe his name power would compensate with a few extra million quid thrown on the Budget. Just get Toby Stephens to play young Clint again.

(http://static.flickr.com/39/78521115_2f4cdb3a0a.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 September, 2014, 02:25:05 AM



The chance of Old Man Clint is a big fat zero, but even if a mythical sequel were to ever arise, I'd hope they wouldn't repeat another of the 95 film's mistakes: having clones that look nothing like their original - and vice versa.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 September, 2014, 08:53:55 AM
Another article about Origins rumour.

http://comicbook.com/2014/09/07/karl-urban-says-a-dredd-prequel-may-be-more-likely-than-a-sequel/ (http://comicbook.com/2014/09/07/karl-urban-says-a-dredd-prequel-may-be-more-likely-than-a-sequel/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 September, 2014, 09:43:58 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 September, 2014, 02:25:05 AM

The chance of Old Man Clint is a big fat zero, but even if a mythical sequel were to ever arise, I'd hope they wouldn't repeat another of the 95 film's mistakes: having clones that look nothing like their original - and vice versa.

And Clint is "too on the nose" as you put it. Why not Urban in both roles - in aged up make-up? He can do all that, an excellent actor.

Some mention of a prequel...hmm. But then no Anderson, and is she not just as important in these films? If there was a mini-series she might not be, other aspects of city etc could be explored.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 08 September, 2014, 09:46:52 AM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 08 September, 2014, 09:43:58 AM
Some mention of a prequel...hmm. But then no Anderson, and is she not just as important in these films? If there was a mini-series she might not be, other aspects of city etc could be explored.
Nah I think people got messed up with 'origin' story rather than the story 'Origins'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 08 September, 2014, 09:56:03 AM
Yeah, I think the prequel announcement is a misconception!
Didn't Urban state in interviews that Origins was one of his favourite stories and was ripe for adaptation?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 September, 2014, 10:15:52 AM
Now Empire;

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=42108 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=42108)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 08 September, 2014, 10:36:50 AM
Origin and Origins...of course, that makes more sense.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 08 September, 2014, 10:36:56 AM
Amusingly, Empire repeats the error that the comicbook.com article made and then corrected, confusing "origins" with "Origins" and claiming Dredd 2 would be a prequel.

Edit: Never mind — for some reason my browser was displaying this thread as of about 40 minutes ago so I didn't see that this had already been covered until after I clicked 'post' and the thread magically updated.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 September, 2014, 04:46:01 PM
Good article from Ain't It Cool

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/68681 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/68681)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 08 September, 2014, 06:17:37 PM
The only niggling issue I'd have with the Origin's story being made or translated into the same world as the first film (Urban's of course) would be that Dredd is a lot older in Origins, and a bit softer in his views of the justice system, if I recall correctly. The 2012 film is Dredd in the early stages of his career. His notoriety only known, or shown to be known, amongst the judges. Normal perps and citizens didn't know who he was yet. It'd be nice to have a film where we see him as a feared judge on the streets of MC1, but maybe Garland could structure the story as taking place a good few years after the events of Peach Trees. Minor niggles and all that. I know it's not certain, but any news for a sequel is good news. Very good news.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 08 September, 2014, 06:27:42 PM
It's obviously all academic, but my concern with doing an Origins movie would be that the first film was so brilliant and refreshing precisely because it entirely sidestepped having to explain or set anything up. I'd hate for it to get bogged down in backstory.

Having said all that, I would definitely give Garland the benefit of the doubt, especially as he vaguely mentioned that his plan for such a film would feature elements of the Democracy storyline, Origins and The Cursed Earth, Chopper as a pivotal figure and Dredd facing off against a version of Satanus....

I would definitely want the hypothetical sequel to be self-contained though - I'm bummed-out enough about Dredd not getting a sequel - I don't think I could take it if we were teased a Dark Judge-featuring threequel that never materialized!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 08 September, 2014, 07:03:31 PM
Too many trilogies these days. 5 films would be better and give more time to up the ante.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: 8-Ball on 09 September, 2014, 12:49:41 PM
I'm not really bothered about the source material for a hypothetical sequel. It wouldn't have to be a page-for-page adaptation. Don't get too fussy, just keep to the bare bones of Origins.  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 09 September, 2014, 07:28:48 PM
Over the past weekend I wanted to watch Dredd but my wife wanted a rom-com. I tried to explain to here that Dredd was most definitely a rom-com, but I tripped myself up with my own logic.

How can we prove that Dredd is the right film to watch no matter what someone's mood is?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fragminion on 10 September, 2014, 05:24:56 AM
All I know is that they just need to get Alan Grant involved with the script and then I will have NO WORRIES what so ever.


A bit of T.B Grover never goes wrong.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 10 September, 2014, 06:28:27 PM
QuoteAll I know is that they just need to get Alan Grant involved

But we want it to be good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 September, 2014, 06:42:35 PM
I've liked a lot of his recent Dredds, and the recent Anderson was great.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 September, 2014, 01:18:29 PM
Propstore have another auction going.

http://propstore.auctionserver.net/view-auctions/catalog/id/10/?page=1&key=dredd&cat&xclosed=no (http://propstore.auctionserver.net/view-auctions/catalog/id/10/?page=1&key=dredd&cat&xclosed=no)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Proudhuff on 11 September, 2014, 02:00:41 PM

So summing up, we're looking at karl in a Garland take of the Origins story?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 11 September, 2014, 02:13:28 PM
If it ever happens, I guess.

That said, a heavily mutated Satanus and Chopper, as well as threads of the Democracy storyline were also talked about.

It sounds a loose adaptation - the body of Fargo being held to ransom and flashbacks within that.

Everything else seems up for grabs without the backstory of Rico, Booth.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 September, 2014, 05:48:31 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 11 September, 2014, 02:13:28 PM
If it ever happens, I guess.

That said, a heavily mutated Satanus and Chopper, as well as threads of the Democracy storyline were also talked about.

It sounds a loose adaptation - the body of Fargo being held to ransom and flashbacks within that.

Everything else seems up for grabs without the backstory of Rico, Booth.


Works for me!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 11 September, 2014, 06:50:09 PM
Mutated Satanus Chopper...

Tyranus  Surfer.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 11 September, 2014, 09:14:17 PM
Hope this comes off as I trust Garland and Urban to deliver something truly spectacular  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 September, 2014, 09:16:47 PM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 11 September, 2014, 09:14:17 PM
Hope this comes off as I trust Garland and Urban to deliver something truly spectacular  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Amen!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 12 September, 2014, 10:12:34 AM
Not a bad article from the Gaurdian, although it does use the prequel word

http://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2014/sep/12/week-in-geek-judge-dredd-sequel-should-adapt-origins
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 September, 2014, 12:52:04 PM
That writer does reading the Origins! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ChickenStu on 12 September, 2014, 01:32:31 PM
I always thought The Day The Law Died would be the right direction to take the sequel in. I think it's important to take things out onto the streets of Mega City One - to actually SEE that city.

Whatever they do - Anderson should still be a main character.

I have an idea for a plot-line for a sequel. Dredd is paired up with Anderson again but not to train her or assess her - to actually protect her. She's been experiencing horrific visions and unsettling nightmares of a cackling, skeletal face which always tells her it's coming for her. Every time she has one of these visions scientists detect an unusual amount of psychic energy around her - completely off the scale. Dredd is informed of the existence of other dimensions. Scientist have known about it for a while but believe Anderson can sense other dimensional activity. Something may be trying to break through and using Anderson as a doorway. This whole thing should be a sub-plot to whatever the main focus of Dredd 2 is.
Then the sequel should end with Dredd and co winning the day but Anderson collapses. Dredd immediately rushes to her aid. The final shot should be Dredd cradling her saying "Stay with me Rookie, help is on the way". The camera then does an extreme close up on her face. Her eyes open and in her pupils we see the face of Judge Death. Fade to black. End.

Then if they ever make Dredd 3...  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 September, 2014, 01:49:08 PM
Dredd Year One felt like it could be a movie sequel - I'd love to see something along the lines of that/the haunting of Sector House 9/the recent Anderson story with judges going off the rails.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 12 September, 2014, 07:14:45 PM
I was thinking that there should be a new Dredd trilogy, interspersed with a Strontium Dog Duology

Dredd 1: The Dark Judges
  Opening vignette - Dredd goes head to head with Chopper the scrawler
  Main story - Dredd and Anderson defeat The Dark Judges, Anderson traps herself in Boing! with Judge Death
  After credits scene - Chopper in the cubes signing up for a rehab programme teaching juves to surf

Strontium Dog 1 (Simon Pegg and Nick Frost to play!)
  Opening vignette - The Schicklegruber Grab
  Main story - Take your pick
  After credits scene - Johnny gets offered an assignment in MC1

Dredd 2: Oz
  Opening vignette - Chopper's escape and flight to Oz
  Main story - Oz
  After credits scene - Top Dog - Dredd runs into Johnny Alpha and Wulf

Strontium Dog 2
  Opening vignette - ?
  Main story - Rage!
  After credits scene - Judge Anderson being cut out of Boing!

Dredd 3
  Opening vignette - The Dead Man
  Main story - Necropolis - Johnny Alpha assisting a la Judgement Day
  After credits scene - ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 September, 2014, 07:57:51 PM
Quote from: Angry Vince on 12 September, 2014, 07:14:45 PM
  After credits scene - ?

Luna-1 on a stick?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 September, 2014, 08:36:12 PM
Sounds fair, Angry Vince, but no offence, but Alex Garland does make stories so right on, and I means, Dredd is one of most re-watchable films ever!! So let trust in him and his ways!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 September, 2014, 09:04:58 PM
Do people really not know the difference between a 'prequel' and 'a film that might have a few flashback scenes'?

It's like when Dredd was first announced and they all said it was a 'remake' of the Stallone movie.

Stop getting Dredd wrong!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 September, 2014, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: radiator on 12 September, 2014, 09:04:58 PM
Do people really not know the difference between a 'prequel' and 'a film that might have a few flashback scenes'?


No; I just don't think they've ever read 'Origins'.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 12 September, 2014, 09:23:03 PM
Origins sounds like it will be an Origin story and most Origin stories in films are Prequels.

Or 'What Joe says'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 13 September, 2014, 09:31:13 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 September, 2014, 07:57:51 PM
Quote from: Angry Vince on 12 September, 2014, 07:14:45 PM
  After credits scene - ?

Luna-1 on a stick?

LIKE
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 September, 2014, 09:49:52 AM
Heading in to the Cursed Earth makes a lot of sense on a budget.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 13 September, 2014, 12:09:38 PM
No one could ever pull of a realistic Cursed Earth!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: strangelysaucy on 13 September, 2014, 12:17:06 PM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 13 September, 2014, 09:49:52 AM
Heading in to the Cursed Earth makes a lot of sense on a budget.

yes and no...

all the facilities/crew that are in an expensive studio lot would need to be shipped to a desert/barren location and maintained there at great cost.

So it's swings and roundabouts really  :-\
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 September, 2014, 02:03:17 PM
I suppose the idea of quarries etc being a staple of Dr Who, Blake's 7 and *cough* fan films lends itself to the idea that it's a cheap option.

We filmed in the same location as a $100,000 + film, but like you say, you've still got the cost of everything around the shoot to take into account, and being out in the middle of nowhere (more so than somewhere like Dinorwig, adds a whole layer of stuff that you don't need to worry about in a studio).

There's also the added factor of the weather.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 13 September, 2014, 02:08:23 PM
My point entirely - that you acheived it.

It's very doable and surely there are specialist units that need a bit less hangers on than at a studio set.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 September, 2014, 02:37:44 PM
Thanks - I'm not really qualified to comment on specialist units, my experience on 'proper' film sets is practically zero.

We were just having a bit of fun to see what could be done really...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 September, 2014, 03:07:43 PM


Unless it's a small crewed short or student film, shooting a sci-fi film in a desert is no cheaper than shooting in a studio, and with Dredd, it's not as if The Cursed Earth is just a desert - there's still a certain expectation of spectacle and spectacle costs. Unless it's an adaptation of The Dead Man.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 13 September, 2014, 05:15:40 PM
I didn't say it would be cheap, I just think shooting a sequel set in Mega City 1 has to be much more expensive. Next to a contained block-environment a wasteland (even with all the wonders of the Cursed Earth) has to be the next best option on a budget.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 13 September, 2014, 06:23:05 PM
Not bothered where its shot just shoot the bloody sequel now !!! I've waited long enough  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 September, 2014, 06:45:45 PM
Quote from: Bubba Zebill on 13 September, 2014, 05:15:40 PM
I didn't say it would be cheap, I just think shooting a sequel set in Mega City 1 has to be much more expensive. Next to a contained block-environment a wasteland (even with all the wonders of the Cursed Earth) has to be the next best option on a budget.


It can be if they were making something akin to A Boy and His Dog, but apparently -being a Judge Dredd story- it wouldn't just be set in The Cursed Earth. The outline we heard was to set half the film in Mega-City 1 and the other in The Cursed Earth. More varied locations can mean more expense in terms of scheduling, transport, infrastructure, sets, FX and equipment - which is partly why Dredd was set in one style of environment, not just one building or set. They could re-utilise/re-tool sets and FX for a film set entirely in Mega-City 1 but Cursed Earth scenes require new and different approaches in addition to established cityscapes and sets.

It all depends on the content and size of the story and if the story employs the flashback format employed in Origins rather than expository dialogue scenes in radioactive ruins.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 13 September, 2014, 09:05:55 PM
The Mega City is Judge Dredd....we've seen hundreds of films of bozos dicking around in the f**king Mojave or some other bit of dessicated scrub land (Judge Minty excepted as it was done on a shoe string and was a belter). The first film worked so well because it was believable, people thought, yep that could/probably will be the future. The City was an integral part of this, stick with the Big Meg, especially in tbe fashion portrayed in Dredd. Z
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 September, 2014, 10:37:31 PM
Oh, I don't know some kind of twisted Americana would be fun - not sure how it fits in with what they had in mind.

And we've got Fury Road on the horizon, if that tanks or does really well, it could be a factor for any post-apocalyptic desert-based films I guess.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 14 September, 2014, 12:24:56 AM
Quote from: ZenArcade on 13 September, 2014, 09:05:55 PM
The Mega City is Judge Dredd....we've seen hundreds of films of bozos dicking around in the f**king Mojave or some other bit of dessicated scrub land (Judge Minty excepted as it was done on a shoe string and was a belter). The first film worked so well because it was believable, people thought, yep that could/probably will be the future. The City was an integral part of this, stick with the Big Meg, especially in tbe fashion portrayed in Dredd. Z



Yeah I wanna see more of the Big Meg too.   Maybe part of the film could be set in the CE but Mega City's the most interesting part of Judge Dredd and that's where most of the film should be set.   
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 14 September, 2014, 12:39:34 AM
Plus there is no need to make films based too closely on any comic story. They might take elements from one or two here n there. But no need to set it on one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 14 September, 2014, 08:15:50 AM
I've always liked the 'western' tonal change whenever we see The Cursed Earth. Mad-Max is always more punk somehow, like everyone is a Spikes Harvey Rotten, where as in Dredd it really feels like a kind of western. So I'd like that if anything, walking the line with the big meg and the western, crossing those worlds.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 14 September, 2014, 01:30:56 PM
Dredd already had western elements in there though, particularly the lead-up to the mini-gun scene.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: 8-Ball on 14 September, 2014, 06:01:06 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 14 September, 2014, 12:39:34 AM
Plus there is no need to make films based too closely on any comic story. They might take elements from one or two here n there. But no need to set it on one.

Agreed. Just as long as it is just one or two elements. One of the biggest screw-ups of the Stallone movie was trying to cram in as many concepts from Dredd's history as possible without giving any of them any time to make an impact.  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 14 September, 2014, 06:48:18 PM
Someone should have pointed that out to IDW...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buttonman on 18 September, 2014, 10:09:20 PM
The Chive listed 40 art prints - nice bit of Dredd in there. Has links for purchase but not sure if licensed.

http://thechive.com/2014/09/18/art-prints-to-hang-on-your-wall-40-photos-2/?utm_campaign=chivetrafficfacebook&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post (http://thechive.com/2014/09/18/art-prints-to-hang-on-your-wall-40-photos-2/?utm_campaign=chivetrafficfacebook&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post)

(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c118/button71/prints-wall-18_zps80eed3eb.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 19 September, 2014, 02:39:48 PM
Dredd: The Musical

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZrsJsvL30g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZrsJsvL30g)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 19 September, 2014, 02:41:21 PM
Disregard the post above. I missed the thread about The Musical.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 19 September, 2014, 08:33:45 PM
Too late I read that post above the post above this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 September, 2014, 09:32:21 PM
As yesterday I was back from holiday break with missus. It was nice last-minute holiday as we booked some holiday somewhere we never before few weeks ago, and I find and booked a hotel from booking.com for cheap deal of Hilton hotel, in Olbia of Sardinia.

It was great hotel, as we stay for a week, on 2nd day I get eerie familiar about this hotel, and the ground floor inside, then I realise it very very simple to Peach Trees Mega-Block! It got same walls around the building, and the ground is same as the Peach Trees ground. This hotel got 8 floors, which looks like 10 times scale of the Peach Trees first 8 floors from the ground and same roof! Check the pictures below, wonder if Alex Garland or Production Designer been stay there before? and here the funny, as many Hilton hotels, it called DoubleTree.

(http://i.imgur.com/TaNxshr.png?2)
(http://i.imgur.com/BQ1FW3m.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/sTKbcAY.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: amines2058 on 20 September, 2014, 07:17:07 AM
This must be a theme of Hilton hotels as the Hilton Prague has a large internal atrium and clear roof. Externally nothing like Peachtrees but internally the size of it is on a par with the movie plus the bars restaurant's and shops around the perimeter make it seem even more like the film. I just wonder if Peachtrees is also full of high end Czech prostitutes just like this hotel?? I thought I was god s gift getting approached by these beautiful women until I realised what was going on, and slowly made my excuses to leave!

(http://www.amcham.cz/www/files/image/1%20-%20Lobby%20Night.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 20 September, 2014, 11:25:07 AM
Quote from: amines2058 on 20 September, 2014, 07:17:07 AMI thought I was god's gift getting approached by these beautiful women until I realised what was going on, and slowly made my excuses to leave!

::) Right. We believe you.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 21 September, 2014, 09:28:04 AM
Apologies if this has been posted already as I've not been on the forums very much but this made my inner fangirl squeal a little.

Q: If you could go to a convention and just hang out - who would you cosplay?
Peter: Doc Holiday.
Q: Karl?


(https://38.media.tumblr.com/48f46c7b123e2249b7b6d112b2aab677/tumblr_nc3bes9TSW1rtk4rzo4_r1_250.gif)(https://33.media.tumblr.com/f7a0913aff3567cda9173443bd3152dc/tumblr_nc3bes9TSW1rtk4rzo2_r1_250.gif)
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/ceb0a8e9ce9564a9930944d846ba5d60/tumblr_nc3bes9TSW1rtk4rzo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 21 September, 2014, 11:08:47 AM
Awesome!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 21 September, 2014, 01:15:50 PM
Dredd/RoboCop Team up? Oh nerdery thou art the greatest!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 21 September, 2014, 06:42:11 PM
Die Antwoord: I mentioned them before with the stadium (Film HOJ) in one music vid, references to the prig in their songs and formerly known as Max Normal...well now they put this out.. Clearly still fans...
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10689734_10152276561821971_578383958815295352_n.jpg?oh=b4eb1a96c8de052e6f20915af4a05715&oe=549093A5&__gda__=1418659791_712ffaa62346790b6d2cdee0755491fd)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 21 September, 2014, 06:42:59 PM
Prig...damned spellcheck - PROG
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 21 September, 2014, 09:41:38 PM
Quote from: mimikeke on 21 September, 2014, 09:28:04 AM
Apologies if this has been posted already as I've not been on the forums very much but this made my inner fangirl squeal a little.

Q: If you could go to a convention and just hang out - who would you cosplay?
Peter: Doc Holiday.
Q: Karl?


Anyone got a link to the vid?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 22 September, 2014, 08:18:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAmRSOd3_hQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qpoz-f5tTA

"I think DragonCon would short circuit if Peter Weller came as Robocop and Karl Urban came as Dredd, am I right?"   *lots of cheering*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 22 September, 2014, 10:34:58 PM
Cheers mimikeke!

Big grin on my face listening to those!   :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 22 September, 2014, 10:48:42 PM
Yeah, thanks!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 29 September, 2014, 06:45:57 AM
Quote from: mimikeke on 22 September, 2014, 08:18:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAmRSOd3_hQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qpoz-f5tTA

"I think DragonCon would short circuit if Peter Weller came as Robocop and Karl Urban came as Dredd, am I right?"   *lots of cheering*

Thanks. The GIFs kept me in a bit of suspenders there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 September, 2014, 08:30:00 PM
A wee message from Adi Shankar

Adi talks to the fans (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYrgnKDEbdU)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 September, 2014, 09:25:00 PM
Top man! I am so stupid for not realise that he did Dirty Laundry! Can't wait for 11th oct!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 October, 2014, 06:40:43 PM
This is a snippit from a message from a friend on facebook. Now if I add this to the other two bits that I've heard and been told over the last few months, well who knows!

QuoteHe's a film extra. Worked on Jack Ryan and is currently working on... Star Wars!

I'm sure you can guess where the rest of the conversation goes, ref this thread ;)

Who knows if it's true but I still live in hope :angel:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 October, 2014, 06:42:23 PM
Ooh do tell.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 04 October, 2014, 07:41:53 PM
http://youtu.be/4dBkD-ZDnO0

hopefully works as I'm on my phone
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 04 October, 2014, 07:54:01 PM
from the q&a

What are his hobbies outside of acting?
-Dressing up as JD and fighting crime :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 04 October, 2014, 08:16:18 PM
Are we talking about Karl or Commando Forces?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 04 October, 2014, 11:13:33 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 04 October, 2014, 08:16:18 PM
Are we talking about Karl or Commando Forces?

I did have that thought whilst posting :) Mr. Urban.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 October, 2014, 10:18:41 AM
Quote from: mimikeke on 04 October, 2014, 07:54:01 PM
from the q&a

What are his hobbies outside of acting?
-Dressing up as JD and fighting crime :)

Awesome! Thanks! Too bad no subtitles but thanks!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 October, 2014, 11:10:29 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzNsvb0CUAAHXPK.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 October, 2014, 11:17:56 PM
It just clicked!

Knew I recognised this guy's name (Deobia Oparei) from somewhere back when they announced the casting for season 5 of Game of Thrones:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0649046/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0649046/)

He played the paramedic in Dredd! Funnily enough he apparently also appeared alongside Karl Urban in Doom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH2ri8RhSnw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH2ri8RhSnw)

I believe that Wood Harris who played Kay also recently joined the cast of Marvel's Ant-Man.

Nice to see the cast doing well!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 October, 2014, 11:25:17 PM
You can also follow them both on Twitter.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 12 October, 2014, 03:30:36 AM
*wonders if he's the only sad geek sitting around on a Saturday night wondering if anything happened at comic con*
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 12 October, 2014, 03:33:58 AM
Well, this happened so far...

(https://31.media.tumblr.com/11f1c2845059d4039014450aa8de5193/tumblr_ndb5roxsj91skdmcmo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 October, 2014, 03:36:55 AM
Brilliant and well done those two lads :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: mimikeke on 12 October, 2014, 11:18:13 AM
welp, Stan, I've officially joined you on West Coast time in staying up until the wee hours of the morning, for naught.

I'm not sure this is the healthiest obsession I've had ::)

Off to bed, hope someone posts something by the time I get back up  :lol:

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 October, 2014, 12:01:18 PM
Yep no tweets from viewers or mention if it live-action or animated!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 12 October, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
It's inanimated.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 13 October, 2014, 07:20:52 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 October, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
It's inanimated.

Or reanimated?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 October, 2014, 08:50:35 PM
It was out on twitter, someone suggest Lucy Lawless as Judge Hershey!

perfect casting!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bz2fY12IgAABFAa.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 17 October, 2014, 07:05:50 PM
Yes Lawless might make a good Hershey but I wonder if she's been a bit typecast with such a well known role as Xena?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: QuickQuag on 17 October, 2014, 08:07:11 PM
That would suck if it was true - Xenas was over fifteen years ago! She's done stuff since then, mainly genre (X-Files, Spartacus, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D), but then so has Urban. If this was a question as to whether she should be DC Warners' new Wonder Woman then, sure, I'd call typecasting too. But not here.

Also, as much as I'd happily see Diane Lane in the role again playing a different version of Hershey, I could as happily overlook the supposed age gap between Dredd and Hershey for the sake of a strong Hershey with echoes of MacGruder in the mix.

Yeah, great call! Why not add another Kiwi to the cast? :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 19 October, 2014, 11:18:34 AM
A series of DREDD movies made with Kiwi talent could become New Zealand's equivalent of Australia's MAD MAX series.

>sigh< If only .... :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 October, 2014, 12:03:01 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 19 October, 2014, 11:18:34 AM
A series of DREDD movies made with Kiwi talent could become New Zealand's equivalent of Australia's MAD MAX series.


Wouldn't the equivalent be Lord of the Rings?

As in a production which takes advantage of a country's talent and environment to do something unique.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 19 October, 2014, 12:22:09 PM
Oh I forgot about LOTR and Peter Jackson. DREDD and MAD MAX [or Mad Mel ] were both Law enforcers so that influenced my decision.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 October, 2014, 12:41:08 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 19 October, 2014, 12:22:09 PM
Oh I forgot about LOTR and Peter Jackson. DREDD and MAD MAX [or Mad Mel ] were both Law enforcers so that influenced my decision.


Time for a crossover.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 19 October, 2014, 02:32:56 PM
DREDD vs Orcs? The ultimate Lawman meets the ultimate bad Assess? Sold!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DaveGYNWA on 19 October, 2014, 04:17:47 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 October, 2014, 12:41:08 PM
Time for a crossover.

Just imagine what that would do to Blackmocco.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 19 October, 2014, 04:58:09 PM
Yeah, I can't - I just can't go there. Too much to process. <looks to wall on left>

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/madmaxdreddpicture_zps1ecd897c.jpg) (http://s233.photobucket.com/user/blackmocco/media/madmaxdreddpicture_zps1ecd897c.jpg.html)

<breathes sigh of relief.> Still there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: blackmocco on 19 October, 2014, 05:24:39 PM
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/DREDDPARTY_zps331b1f7d.jpg) (http://s233.photobucket.com/user/blackmocco/media/DREDDPARTY_zps331b1f7d.jpg.html)

This could go on all day...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 19 October, 2014, 07:18:02 PM
Wheres my grud damn like button?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 October, 2014, 07:23:05 PM
Well just realise Karl Urban can do Mad Max and Snake Pilissken!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 26 October, 2014, 02:46:25 PM
Went to the Preston Comic-Con yesterday, fantastic to see John and Carlos there together , very gracious (even to star struck tongue tied bumbling fans like myself :-[). The Brit Cit Judges were there and really were good , always in character and put together some great photo moments for fans. After the event they also put on some street theatre leading a large group who were being shown to a viewing of Dredd, laid on by future tours (even shooting dead some pesky juves at the venue itself :lol:).

Anyhow, speaking briefly to John and the judges (how about that for a band name? ;)) the impression I got was that things aren't quite as negative regarding a sequel as some think. The Make a Dredd Sequel campaign is having an impact, the stars and others in the industry want it , the numbers in terms of money are getting and looking better and the old stallone film is fading from memory. So yes I think we WILL get a sequel, the real question is when.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 October, 2014, 08:15:45 PM
That's great Kid! :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 28 October, 2014, 08:13:37 AM
I may be a little slow here but just realised the music playing in the background that the clan techie is listening to is the theme from snuff box!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 October, 2014, 09:18:59 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 28 October, 2014, 08:13:37 AM
I may be a little slow here but just realised the music playing in the background that the clan techie is listening to is the theme from snuff box!

Well Dredd got so many Easter Eggs, :) wish there is Easter Eggs track so I could find 3rd "Goaty"!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Misanthrope on 30 October, 2014, 09:55:09 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 28 October, 2014, 08:13:37 AM
I may be a little slow here but just realised the music playing in the background that the clan techie is listening to is the theme from snuff box!

I must admit I had never heard of the show until someone pointed it out to me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bolt-01 on 31 October, 2014, 04:48:06 PM
Maybe I'm asking this in the wrong place- but what is the music that's playing when Dredd & Anderson bust the Slo-mo den? It's not on the soundtrack...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 31 October, 2014, 04:48:54 PM
It's Poison Lips by Vitalic.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 31 October, 2014, 04:49:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2dfGC1oziE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2dfGC1oziE)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bolt-01 on 31 October, 2014, 04:49:58 PM
Steve, that was scarily fast. Many thanks- off to Amazon music I go..
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 31 October, 2014, 04:50:58 PM
You can tell I've got no work on...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 31 October, 2014, 06:00:01 PM
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 31 October, 2014, 04:49:58 PM
Steve, that was scarily fast. Many thanks- off to Amazon music I go..
Check out OK Cowboy, too. Poney Part 1 is an astonishingly good slice of electronic snarl.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 31 October, 2014, 08:03:24 PM
Well as mention before that Dredd got many hidden amazing parts, still an amazing film!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 31 October, 2014, 08:42:54 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 31 October, 2014, 04:49:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2dfGC1oziE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2dfGC1oziE)

Wow, love it! Nice Blondie vibe going on there. I can almost hear slow motion gunshot wounds happening!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 31 October, 2014, 08:52:21 PM
Huh. I'd never heard that song in full before - it's pretty cool. I always wondered why the perps in that drug den were listening to what sounded like Donna Summer.  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 31 October, 2014, 11:45:08 PM
As opposed to a slightly crazed French guy who uses computer instruments for everything in his tracks (including psychotic guitars and 70s disco lead vocals).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 02 November, 2014, 06:57:17 PM
Well he had to be in there somewhere, didn't he?   :)

http://www.empireonline.com/features/new-one-man-armies/p33
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 02 November, 2014, 11:43:12 PM
Looks like Mr Garland is getting very busy with other projects:

QuoteHis first stab at directing, robo-thriller Ex_Machina, is generating some healthy buzz. So it's not surprising that Alex Garland is being considered for other jobs. Paramount sees plenty of promise in him, hiring Garland to write and direct Annihilation.

It might not be the cheeriest title, but it's actually the first book in Jeff VanderMeer's thriller trilogy The Southern Reach, which follows a biologist hunting for answers about her husband, who has gone missing. He was exploring a dangerous environmental disaster area that has been sealed by the government for the past 30 years, so perhaps the bigger question might be why he went there in the first place?

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=42629 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=42629)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 November, 2014, 10:53:19 AM
Great news for Mr Garland!
Let's hope it gives him leverage for a bit of Dredd sequeling!   :)
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 04 November, 2014, 06:04:39 PM
I don't really want to speculate on how the news will/won't affect the odds of a sequel - I'm sure the situation is much more complex than any of us can understand. I'm pleased that Alex is getting recognition though and wish him every success. I've very much enjoyed every film he's been involved with.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 04 November, 2014, 07:51:35 PM
^^^ Yep
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 November, 2014, 11:22:32 AM
Perhaps like Joss Weedons Serenity Dredd will be seen as sort of stepping stone Film for Alex Garland.

It clearly showed talent and if this Film does well it might make Marvel or DC trust him with one of their magnus opus projects and after that who knows!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 November, 2014, 12:00:37 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 November, 2014, 11:22:32 AM
It clearly showed talent and if this Film does well it might make Marvel or DC trust him with one of their magnus opus projects and after that who knows!


From his interviews I never get the feeling he'd be remotely interested in a Marvel/DC property.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 November, 2014, 12:40:20 PM
Wonder what this could be about? Original screenplay! Cost the Earth to make I bet.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0464037/?ref_=nm_flmg_wr_1
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 November, 2014, 12:47:38 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 November, 2014, 12:40:20 PM
Wonder what this could be about? Original screenplay! Cost the Earth to make I bet.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0464037/?ref_=nm_flmg_wr_1


A long dead project:


http://www.wired.com/2012/04/halo-movie-generation-xbox/


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 November, 2014, 12:51:26 PM
I feel like crying! :(  Hope Alex got to keep some of the money they advanced him for the script.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 November, 2014, 12:53:56 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 November, 2014, 12:51:26 PM
I feel like crying! :(  Hope Alex got to keep some of the money they advanced him for the script.


The script was written and he would've gotten paid for writing it whether it was made or not.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 November, 2014, 01:02:56 PM
Goody! Film Four is one of the production companies involved in this project so perhaps we'll see it on telly sooner than usual.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 09 November, 2014, 03:06:48 PM
Quote from: radiator on 31 October, 2014, 08:52:21 PM
Huh. I'd never heard that song in full before - it's pretty cool. I always wondered why the perps in that drug den were listening to what sounded like Donna Summer.  :-[

Haha - not just me who thought that, then!  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 11 November, 2014, 10:13:35 PM


http://www.unleashthefanboy.com/news/make-dredd-sequel/125134 (http://www.unleashthefanboy.com/news/make-dredd-sequel/125134)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 11 November, 2014, 10:48:09 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 31 October, 2014, 06:00:01 PM
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 31 October, 2014, 04:49:58 PM
Steve, that was scarily fast. Many thanks- off to Amazon music I go..
Check out OK Cowboy, too. Poney Part 1 is an astonishingly good slice of electronic snarl.
If it's a Vitalic soundtrack you're after, then The Legend of Kaspar Hauser (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcIhQdn6LEM) is definitely the film for you.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: amines2058 on 13 November, 2014, 09:09:08 AM
For anyone at all who heaven forbid does not yet possess a copy of Dredd, then Play are currently selling the 2D / 3D bluray for the bargainous price of £4.84 delivered.
If not for you then perhaps it may make a nice Xmas gift to help convert a family member over to the house of Tharg / Dredd.
Details below:

http://www.play.com/stores/zoverstocks/listing/746982963 (http://www.play.com/stores/zoverstocks/listing/746982963)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 November, 2014, 06:48:41 PM



Great interview with John Wagner & Carlos Ezquerra at NICE Convention in Bedford conducted by Chris Thompson of PopCultureHound (http://popculturehound.net/episode-108-sensing-dredd-with-john-wagner-ezquerra/).

Towards the end John mentions it was FOX who read Garland's Judge Death script and suggested not starting with Death as an opener.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 23 November, 2014, 08:00:22 PM
Cheers Joe!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 04 December, 2014, 10:30:07 AM
Apologies if this has already been posted but saw this today -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw7C_Uy4vjk

Go to 5.10.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 04 December, 2014, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 04 December, 2014, 10:30:07 AM
Apologies if this has already been posted but saw this today -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw7C_Uy4vjk

Go to 5.10.
3 of my favourite recent films on there. Dredd, Lone Ranger and John Carter. Maybe I'm the jinx. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 04 December, 2014, 11:23:40 AM
Well she mentions that there's talk of a possible sequel so that must be taken as a positive.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 04 December, 2014, 11:56:18 AM
Some more great behind the scenes shots from the making of Dredd!

https://www.behance.net/gallery/21769477/BTS-Dredd
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 11 December, 2014, 09:46:48 PM
Anyone else get the free downloads from the Make a Dredd sequel people? What a nice thought for Grudmas.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 December, 2014, 10:04:51 AM
Yes they were excellent. So Happy Grudmas to Dandontdare, The toothy Droids and everyone on the forums!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 12 December, 2014, 12:14:53 PM
I got the free comic - Mega City Confidential. Was there anything else?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 December, 2014, 08:08:55 AM



Dredd - Zavvi (UK) steelbook is on its way:


http://www.hidefninja.com/community/threads/dredd-3d-blu-ray-steelbook-zavvi-exclusive-uk.59818/page-5
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 13 December, 2014, 10:14:36 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 December, 2014, 08:08:55 AM



Dredd - Zavvi (UK) steelbook is on its way:


http://www.hidefninja.com/community/threads/dredd-3d-blu-ray-steelbook-zavvi-exclusive-uk.59818/page-5

Early days it would seem (No date as yet?) but grand news. Here's hoping for summat special on the cover.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 December, 2014, 12:32:10 PM
Great news, the fans cried out for one and Zavvi responded-well done!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 December, 2014, 07:53:14 PM
Gah! I bloody knew theyd announce one after I'd finally succumbed and bought the Japanese edition. Oh well, suppose I'll be buying a 4th copy now!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 13 December, 2014, 08:39:18 PM
And after I just bought one from the Netherlands. Get in!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 December, 2014, 09:00:52 PM
Awesome! Will get it! Still wait for Goaty version ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 13 December, 2014, 09:22:28 PM
Commission a 2000 AD artist to draw a box cover for yourself. You know you want to!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 13 December, 2014, 09:43:59 PM
Ooh Carlos Ezquerra, Jock, Kev Walker & Simon Fraser!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 17 December, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
http://www.scifinow.co.uk/interviews/dredd-2-alex-garland-drops-some-truth-bombs/ (http://www.scifinow.co.uk/interviews/dredd-2-alex-garland-drops-some-truth-bombs/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 17 December, 2014, 02:42:09 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 17 December, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
http://www.scifinow.co.uk/interviews/dredd-2-alex-garland-drops-some-truth-bombs/ (http://www.scifinow.co.uk/interviews/dredd-2-alex-garland-drops-some-truth-bombs/)

:'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 17 December, 2014, 02:50:17 PM
Yeah, just hoping the members of the Make a Dredd Sequel page don't take it too badly...
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 17 December, 2014, 03:42:06 PM
Poor blokes gonna have to get used to answering this question quite a lot over the next few months I'd imagine...

Hard to hear, but i think we all knew this already if we're being honest. Time to move on.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 17 December, 2014, 05:33:48 PM
I will still offer to bankroll this if I win a stupid amount on a Euromillions roll-over...

Still not good odds...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 17 December, 2014, 06:43:00 PM
That's that then. Still, at least we have Dredd to enjoy over, and over, and over....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 17 December, 2014, 10:09:19 PM
Major bummer that news. Z
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 17 December, 2014, 11:14:18 PM
Yeah, it's a shame - but we got a great Dredd film out of it, thanks to the cast and crew behind it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 17 December, 2014, 11:48:34 PM
I think its time to roll out a new franchise from the 2000AD stable without the stink of a previous movie to sour its potential and start afresh. I strongly believe there are more bankable characters at the moment than Dredd. Time to push Strontium Dog, Slaine and Rogue Trooper before Marvel turn the movie going audience off comic based movies.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 17 December, 2014, 11:51:53 PM
QuoteYeah, it's a shame - but we got a great Dredd film out of it, thanks to the cast and crew behind it.

A great Dredd movie that had direct input from John Wagner, and an independent UK production at that. And though not commercially successful, it's become a genuine cult film now that a large amount of people really love - and still talk about a lot two and a half years later (I mean, who still talks that much about Looper or Resident Evil 5?). Rather that than a whole trilogy of horrible Hollywood-ised Dredd movies that completely missed the point. And I got a personal namecheck in it. Can't complain, really. It's still hard to believe it actually happened at all sometimes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 18 December, 2014, 12:08:22 AM
Gutted  :|
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 18 December, 2014, 12:46:27 AM
Nah, sod that - I am going to live in denial. It's much more fun.

WE WILL GET A SEQUEL DAMMIT!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 18 December, 2014, 12:49:20 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 17 December, 2014, 11:14:18 PM
Yeah, it's a shame - but we got a great Dredd film out of it, thanks to the cast and crew behind it.

It is sad news, but I'll echo Steve's, and others, sentiment and say that one great Dredd movie is better than no great Dredd movie at all.

Also much thanks and admiration to all the cast and crew for producing such a memorable film with the quality of which will continue to endure!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 18 December, 2014, 01:21:01 AM
Come on people, this is hardly news!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 18 December, 2014, 09:01:04 AM
Quote from: radiator on 18 December, 2014, 01:21:01 AM
Come on people, this is hardly news!

Quite. Hopefully this will stop the endless stupid Kickstarter suggestions though. But I doubt it...

Hey! I know what we should do! Have one of the 'producers' make an animated mini series! I'm sure that would be GREAT!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 18 December, 2014, 09:27:23 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 18 December, 2014, 09:01:04 AM
Quite. Hopefully this will stop the endless stupid Kickstarter suggestions though. But I doubt it...

Ohh, no... I've already seen a suggestion FB that the fans should make a full-length feature off their own bat ("It wouldn't cost much") and then give it to... err, someone, to distribute.

Step 3) Profit!

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Theblazeuk on 18 December, 2014, 10:40:59 AM
The marketing and distributor droids need to be shot, frankly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 18 December, 2014, 10:46:55 AM
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 18 December, 2014, 10:40:59 AM
The marketing and distributor droids need to be shot, frankly.

Everything I've ever heard from people in the PR business says that the best PR in the world for a movie is good word of mouth, and Dredd had that in spades. I think Dredd has achieved the best we can realistically hope for — it's detoxified the brand in terms of quality, if not box office potential.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 December, 2014, 10:50:00 AM
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 18 December, 2014, 10:40:59 AM
The marketing and distributor droids need to be shot, frankly.

I didn't think the marketing was terrible, it could have done with a couple more trailers, sooner maybe.

Maybe the market for an R-rated CBM is just too small.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 18 December, 2014, 11:36:44 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 18 December, 2014, 10:50:00 AM
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 18 December, 2014, 10:40:59 AM
The marketing and distributor droids need to be shot, frankly.

I didn't think the marketing was terrible, it could have done with a couple more trailers, sooner maybe.

Maybe the market for an R-rated CBM is just too small.


Could be the reason.
For instance, Sin City: A Dame To Kill For made less than Dredd and cost more to make.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 18 December, 2014, 01:47:04 PM
Yeah as Radiator said this is not news just the unfortunate truth. :'(

In ten or twenty years someone might have a go again. With new and better technology it might be a Virtual reality Dredd we see downloading it right into our living rooms.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 18 December, 2014, 01:47:57 PM
Dang.  :( Time to see again the one we do have.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 18 December, 2014, 01:48:30 PM
Quote from: Zarjazzer on 18 December, 2014, 01:47:57 PM
Dang.  :( Time to see again the good one we do have.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 18 December, 2014, 01:57:55 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 18 December, 2014, 01:47:04 PM
In ten or twenty years someone might have a go again.

That's what I took away from Garland's comments, hence my own 'detoxifying' comment — someone who picks up that hypothetical baton X years down the line will be building off the back of an excellent, but unsuccessful, film rather than a bloody awful, but unsuccessful, film.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 18 December, 2014, 02:14:05 PM
Quote from: Bat King on 17 December, 2014, 05:33:48 PM
I will still offer to bankroll this if I win a stupid amount on a Euromillions roll-over...

Still not good odds...

Me too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 18 December, 2014, 02:14:18 PM
No ad campaign budget could generate anything like the 'following' Dredd has now built ( for good or bad).

The format DNA films worked with was distant from the comic visual but was a stroke of genius in building a world that was achievable in pretty much all potential budgets.

The bottom line of the film was it lost money in the short term return, but with an establishd fanbase you'd think it'd be a more bankable market with less risk than backing a new film project with no track record whatsover.
Hopefully they'd have seen DREDD as a loss leader ?

But hey, we got two films in our lifetime, thats good.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Teivion on 18 December, 2014, 02:18:59 PM
Actually, come to think of it-

I wonder when the rights IMG/ DNA own to DREDD would run out ?

Maybe they'll try to keep the rights in the same way the Fantastic Four movie rights were.....
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 December, 2014, 02:42:30 PM
I've no idea how long they've got it for - I've heard so many different things from different people...

There are 2 sides to it that I can see...

The DNA version of Dredd has a fanbase - but whether they'd just let the option lapse, or sell their version on as a base for someone else to have a go, whether that's as a film, DTV or something else....

I'm not sure if that kind of thing ever happens, even if someone showed an interest. I guess the closest equivalent would be something like Starship Troopers, and that didn't work out brilliantly...

The other thing, is that there is a slight risk to sticking with the realistic version, in that fascistic ultra-violent cops in body armour might be too close too home (depending on what's happening in the real world) to be marketable, compared to something more overtly science-fiction, and being able to distance itself a little.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Theblazeuk on 18 December, 2014, 03:31:55 PM
Word of mouth is the best PR but in my experience, Dredd was out of the cinemas by the time it built a buzz - and prior to that, it had a buzz only amongst the initiated.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 18 December, 2014, 03:55:36 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 18 December, 2014, 02:14:18 PMThe bottom line of the film was it lost money in the short term return, but with an establishd fanbase you'd think it'd be a more bankable market with less risk than backing a new film project with no track record whatsover.  Hopefully they'd have seen DREDD as a loss leader ?
That's not how the industry works. You're still having to convince people that Dredd 2 might make money, mostly off of fairly good shiny disc sales and a vocal but relatively small fan-base. The next move would also probably have to up the ante, so you're talking a punt of, what, $50–60 million plus marketing costs?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 December, 2014, 04:31:17 PM
I don't know how much more you'd need - bearing in mind that 3D isn't the big draw.

So you could knock off the post production costs for any stereo shots, or the overhead of experimental 3D rigs that Dredd had for starters.

You'd get more for the equivalent production budget, and a smoother production in general if you're not worrying about 3D at all.

It depends whether you stay to the near future route (contemporary vehicles etc) or not.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 18 December, 2014, 04:42:09 PM
Also worth pointing out that even if a sequel were greenlit tomorrow it wouldn't make it into cinemas until at least 2017/8, which would make it 5+ years since the release of the original, and belated sequels to even successful films can be very risky as Sin City 2 proved this year.

QuoteMaybe they'll try to keep the rights in the same way the Fantastic Four movie rights were.....

I don't think they're that valuable a commodity that someone would make a film purely to hold onto them.

My hope would be that they have some kind of deal in place to prevent some third party making a crappy two-bit DTV sequel - I personally would rather have no sequel at all than something that would cheapen the brand a la Starship Troopers.

As for Garland, he seems to be very much in demand now and is clearly busy with other projects. And good on him, it's very well-deserved.

My one last iota of hope for a live-action continuation of Dredd is if someone like HBO or Netflix picked it up as a TV series, which is something Garland discussed at the time of the film's release, ISTR even to the point of saying there had been actual discussions about seriously pursuing it (but don't quote me - or him - on that). Dredd's adult tone seems a much better fit for the small screen in the current climate. I think if the film had fared a little better this could be a realistic possibility but as things stand the chances of something like this happening are vanishingly small. I suspect the Euromillions option is more likely.

And while a Kickstarter-funded sequel is totally pie in the sky (such a venture could probably raise enough to cover some of the preproduction, if that), I suppose it could theoretically be possible to get an official short film (ie 5 mins) crowdfunded, but I doubt there'd be the will of the creators to do so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 18 December, 2014, 06:14:20 PM
Looking at the amount of so many terrible films getting sequels (Taken is on it's 3rd for fuck sake *sigh*), hearing words like those from one of the men responsible for the film is a hammer blow. It's disgusting, but what can you do in a world that laps up one forgettable Marvel/DC comic film after another? There's just no justice in the world.

Even if in 10 or 20 years someone else does have another crack at Dredd, I really couldn't care for the prospect of that. As far as I'm concerned, the foundation were laid down with Garland's 2012 version's vision. I wanted to see more of that world, and more so, I wanted to see more of Karl Urban's Dredd in THAT uniform, in THAT Mega City. Anything else will just feel like a reboot that isn't needed, and that's the big shame of it all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 December, 2014, 06:47:27 PM
It's academic now, but I saw that as a starting point - and would have been happy to have seen it evolve.

There were a lot of concepts in the book that I would like to have seen make it to screen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 18 December, 2014, 07:26:19 PM
Hopefully they may grace us with a special edition DREDD bluray at the very least for 2015. This would surely  sell given its cult status.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 December, 2014, 08:03:21 PM
Who knows?

They've got a steelbook Zavvi limited release of 2500 in the offing, but if it's that small a run, I imagine it will be the same content.

The UK EiV release has been pretty poor.

Someone like Criterion picking up on it is probably your best best, but even then, there's not a whole lot of material that hasn't been seen online - would be nice to have it all in one place though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 19 December, 2014, 03:45:01 PM
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 18 December, 2014, 03:31:55 PM
Word of mouth is the best PR but in my experience, Dredd was out of the cinemas by the time it built a buzz - and prior to that, it had a buzz only amongst the initiated.

Didn't it get a great reaction at one of the cons before general release?...maybe too little too late.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 December, 2014, 03:51:53 PM
Yeah, at San Diego.

It's not the first time that sort of buzz hasn't materialised into something bigger though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 19 December, 2014, 09:46:15 PM
It may be much better suited to a TV serial. Z
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 20 December, 2014, 10:27:44 AM
Could Mega City be the next Gotham? Unlikely but what an intriguing idea.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 22 December, 2014, 03:36:46 PM
I echo a lot of the comments that have been posted in the last few pages but have realised hat this version of Dredd would be better suited to a gritty tv series than condensing rich stories into an hour and a half film.With keeping Dredd's world more grounded like in the film the budgets might not be sky high as it was more future next week than future next century which worked well. Its a bitter pill to swallow what Alex said but I think we all thought this might be the case, however I still hold out hope never say never  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 24 December, 2014, 11:25:45 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/judge-dredd-prop

Some DREDD Film relatd stuff on E-Bay. Your Christmas money goes here.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 28 December, 2014, 01:28:06 AM
So what Garland's saying is that he reckons there's at least one more Dredd film in the tank. Sweet!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 December, 2014, 12:11:12 PM
Yes- in 10 to 20 years. Dredd is suspended Flick wise; 2 Movies neither of which set the box office alight or recouped their budgets. That's a dud in Hollywood circles and you can't argue with the figures there though the DVD sales were pretty impressive.

'Straight to DVD' Movie would be the attitude of any Company buying the Film rights therefore.  I doubt any such endeavour is even being considered and such films tend towards minimal budgets. It actually might suit Dredd being fairly pared down action Film but I doubt you'd see Karl Urban or Olivia Thirlby in the Mega City. Dolph Lungren,Van Damme or a heaving Steven Seagal if your lucky for Dredd; Maggie Grace, Erika Eleniak maybe for Judge Anderson.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 January, 2015, 06:43:01 PM


Alex Garland video interview:

"The reality is that a film needs to acquit itself. It shouldn't need a petition." (http://m.ie.ign.com/articles/2015/01/12/dredd-2-unlikely-says-screenwriter-alex-garland)



"The first film we made it for about $35m, although quite a lot of that was to do with shooting it in 3D. Or a chunk of it. And we managed to make that film for that budget by locking it in a building essentially, sort of Die Hard-style. In the second film it was going to go out into the desert, which would be The Cursed Earth – people who know the comic book would know immediately what that means. And maybe throw some money at some key sequences. That's how you do it I guess. I think we could have made it for another $30m, $35m type thing. We could have made it for $30m if we shot it in 2D. $35m maybe 3D I guess. Of that order. But the third one that would have been more expensive, because it would have been going back to the city and maybe bringing in some Dark Judges or something like that."



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 12 January, 2015, 06:56:14 PM
As I said before, I feel bad for him as he's going to answer this question a lot while promoting Ex Machina.

Interesting too that he confirms the figure of $35m for the budget. That false $50m figure they floated around to get the film more attention has come back to haunt them a bit - it'll be forever quoted whenever the film is mentioned by the press.

Totally disagree that the filmmakers let anyone down, but that goes without saying.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 12 January, 2015, 07:06:32 PM
So we just need 30 mil and say another 30 for a good marketing campaign....I know where my euro millions is going. shit, even if it bombs I still recoup and make a small profit with an endless dividend. Not blue chip but it wouldn't be totally about the money. Z
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 January, 2015, 11:04:23 PM
Quote from: radiator on 12 January, 2015, 06:56:14 PM

Totally disagree that the filmmakers let anyone down, but that goes without saying.

More agreement of that sentiment here.

Garland and crew have nothing to be sorry for-they created a fantastic action movie and the definitive Judge Dredd movie and that is something to be very proud of! 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zenith 666 on 13 January, 2015, 08:58:04 AM
We just need 35million Zen and screw promoting it a sequel will do better anyway off the success DREDD had on DVD and Blu-Ray.it'll only be for us do really want to promote another Dredd movie and waste your money when the majority again ignore it to watch Taken 4.Our greatest hope is Alex Garland makes an absolute blockbuster so he can pick his own projects.Hes already  guaranteed my money for Ex Machina for helping to bring Dredd to the big screen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 January, 2015, 11:11:03 AM
I really don't think that's how it works.

Just because you have a blockbuster hit doesn't mean a studio is going to hand over tens of millions of dollars to continue an IP that has failed to perform twice at the box office.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zenith 666 on 13 January, 2015, 11:56:08 AM
Surely more success for Garland couldn't hurt he's been outstanding in promoting Dredd and in the call for a sequel.Hope Ex Machina is a huge success.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 13 January, 2015, 12:15:17 PM
If Ex Machina is a success, then it propable they'd ask for a sequel it it, or for somethin else he has done. They will most certainly not ask for a sequel to a film that totally tanked at the box office.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 January, 2015, 01:07:37 PM
Ask Jim Cameron for another Piranha film.
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 January, 2015, 02:38:36 PM
It was reported recently that Garland has been tapped to write and direct a trilogy(?) of films (adapting a successful series of novels) for Universal, so it's fair to say he's well and truly moved on.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 January, 2015, 03:07:08 PM
This springs to mind for some reason.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2230663/cursed.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 13 January, 2015, 06:05:13 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 January, 2015, 01:07:37 PM
Ask Jim Cameron for another Piranha film.

With Kelly Brook!  In 3D!
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 January, 2015, 05:26:10 PM
Quote from: radiator on 13 January, 2015, 02:38:36 PM
It was reported recently that Garland has been tapped to write and direct a trilogy(?) of films (adapting a successful series of novels) for Universal, so it's fair to say he's well and truly moved on.


And 28 Months Later (http://ie.ign.com/articles/2015/01/14/alex-garland-says-28-months-later-is-being-discussed) is back on the cards.




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 January, 2015, 05:31:29 PM
I hope it's better than 28 Weeks, which wasn't a patch on 28 Days.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 14 January, 2015, 11:35:59 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 13 January, 2015, 06:05:13 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 January, 2015, 01:07:37 PM
Ask Jim Cameron for another Piranha film.

With Kelly Brook!  In 3D!

In the nip as well. Sadly there's a massive sleaziness to the whole venture that makes it unwatchable.  More than four or five times.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 15 January, 2015, 01:35:35 AM
I kind've enjoyed the first one for what it was but I knew the second would annoy me, regardless of Hasselhoff. Better to leave the memory untainted.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 22 January, 2015, 10:34:32 PM
Apparently Dredd will be disappearing from Netflix US on Feb 23rd - so watch it while you can!


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/movies-expiring-netflix-february-764699?source=gravity (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/movies-expiring-netflix-february-764699?source=gravity)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 22 January, 2015, 10:56:31 PM
Alex Garland got through an entire interview about Ex Machina  this afternoon without mentioning Dredd.

Nurse... record the time. :-(

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zenith 666 on 22 January, 2015, 11:59:05 PM
It's Not too bad.We finally got the movie we wanted and that Dredd deserved.A movie that did him some long overdue justice.So what if nobody watched in cinema(I did twice)or it's box office was appalling.we got the movie we always wanted and Urban was amazing job done and I'll start paying Mr garland back tomorrow by watching Ex Machina.Then I'll go home and watch Dredd again because it fucking rocks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 23 January, 2015, 01:55:34 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 22 January, 2015, 10:56:31 PM
Alex Garland got through an entire interview about Ex Machina  this afternoon without mentioning Dredd.

I was going to mention that! He was powerfully realist as well - very interesting perspectives. The guy ain't no fool.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 23 January, 2015, 02:16:12 AM
Yep, much like John Wagner, he just comes across as very level-headed and totally devoid of bullshit.

I can't remember exactly what was said when I got to chat him at the Dredd screening*, but I remember that he was very complimentary of the poster I did, and very sincere about it.

Top bloke.

*Annoyingly, he was just about to tell me what it was about my posts regarding the film that meant that I ended up getting a namecheck in it, but then he got cut off mid-sentence by someone else. Always wished I'd heard the end of that sentence.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 23 January, 2015, 09:43:01 AM
I never thought we'd get another Dredd movie, ever. Stallone's awfulness would forever stain the character. But we got one of the most ambitious British indies you're ever likely to see, with the spirit of the comic on the big screen. The writing was tight; the design was smart; the movie was, amazingly, unsanitised. That it didn't immediately gel, primarily with a US audience, is a pity, but it eventually did. This movie isn't being remembered as a box-office flop, but more a case of "Dredd failed at the box-office, but..." Call it a cult film/finding its audience at home. Whatever, the film has become a success, albeit not financially.

As Garland said, that means in the long-term, another Dredd might even be viable for someone else to take on, because the brand has been destinked. More importantly and immediately, it means Dredd in and of itself is now a more interesting prospect. I've no idea about sales figures and the like, but I'd hope there's been an uptick in Dredd interest (and, through the halo effect, 2000 AD) outside of the UK because of this movie. At the absolute worst, it can't have done any harm.

Also, the team smartly gave us a finite story. Dredd didn't end on a cliffhanger. I'm sure everyone would have liked to have seen more (the result of a good movie), but you didn't have to, in order to get a full story. You get arcs for Anderson and Dredd, insight into MC-1, and some little nuggets of 'blink and you'll miss them' future-shock and satire, all rolled into one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 23 January, 2015, 10:42:07 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 22 January, 2015, 10:56:31 PM
Nurse... record the time. :-(

Well put, Jim.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 23 January, 2015, 11:06:12 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 23 January, 2015, 09:43:01 AM
I never thought we'd get another Dredd movie, ever. Stallone's awfulness would forever stain the character. But we got one of the most ambitious British indies you're ever likely to see, with the spirit of the comic on the big screen. The writing was tight; the design was smart; the movie was, amazingly, unsanitised. That it didn't immediately gel, primarily with a US audience, is a pity, but it eventually did. This movie isn't being remembered as a box-office flop, but more a case of "Dredd failed at the box-office, but..." Call it a cult film/finding its audience at home. Whatever, the film has become a success, albeit not financially.

As Garland said, that means in the long-term, another Dredd might even be viable for someone else to take on, because the brand has been destinked. More importantly and immediately, it means Dredd in and of itself is now a more interesting prospect. I've no idea about sales figures and the like, but I'd hope there's been an uptick in Dredd interest (and, through the halo effect, 2000 AD) outside of the UK because of this movie. At the absolute worst, it can't have done any harm.

Also, the team smartly gave us a finite story. Dredd didn't end on a cliffhanger. I'm sure everyone would have liked to have seen more (the result of a good movie), but you didn't have to, in order to get a full story. You get arcs for Anderson and Dredd, insight into MC-1, and some little nuggets of 'blink and you'll miss them' future-shock and satire, all rolled into one.

I agree 100% with everything you say. It's just such a shame that we have those insights from Alex Garland about what would have been in any sequels to forever tease the edge of our imagination, and the fact that DREDD seems very much like an introduction to a world and characters that have so much untapped potential.

I hope, a few years down the line, someone else has a crack at making a Dredd film and it takes it's cues from the last one, but I'll always feel slightly cheated out of a continuation of the fantastic interpretation that Garland and Urban gave us.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 23 January, 2015, 01:31:40 PM
Quote from: Spaceghost on 23 January, 2015, 11:06:12 AMI'll always feel slightly cheated

(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/0a/0a2b76fd6d6ef6b4fe0abbff1b45d0469e4baad1f8576f08798b81cc6b1e4fb7.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 23 January, 2015, 01:41:05 PM
Quote from: Spaceghost on 23 January, 2015, 11:06:12 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 23 January, 2015, 09:43:01 AM
I never thought we'd get another Dredd movie, ever. Stallone's awfulness would forever stain the character. But we got one of the most ambitious British indies you're ever likely to see, with the spirit of the comic on the big screen. The writing was tight; the design was smart; the movie was, amazingly, unsanitised. That it didn't immediately gel, primarily with a US audience, is a pity, but it eventually did. This movie isn't being remembered as a box-office flop, but more a case of "Dredd failed at the box-office, but..." Call it a cult film/finding its audience at home. Whatever, the film has become a success, albeit not financially.

As Garland said, that means in the long-term, another Dredd might even be viable for someone else to take on, because the brand has been destinked. More importantly and immediately, it means Dredd in and of itself is now a more interesting prospect. I've no idea about sales figures and the like, but I'd hope there's been an uptick in Dredd interest (and, through the halo effect, 2000 AD) outside of the UK because of this movie. At the absolute worst, it can't have done any harm.

Also, the team smartly gave us a finite story. Dredd didn't end on a cliffhanger. I'm sure everyone would have liked to have seen more (the result of a good movie), but you didn't have to, in order to get a full story. You get arcs for Anderson and Dredd, insight into MC-1, and some little nuggets of 'blink and you'll miss them' future-shock and satire, all rolled into one.

I agree 100% with everything you say. It's just such a shame that we have those insights from Alex Garland about what would have been in any sequels to forever tease the edge of our imagination, and the fact that DREDD seems very much like an introduction to a world and characters that have so much untapped potential.

I hope, a few years down the line, someone else has a crack at making a Dredd film and it takes it's cues from the last one, but I'll always feel slightly cheated out of a continuation of the fantastic interpretation that Garland and Urban gave us.

Don't underestimate Thirlby's and Headey's contribution to the success of the film too!   ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 23 January, 2015, 01:42:18 PM
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 23 January, 2015, 01:31:40 PM
Quote from: Spaceghost on 23 January, 2015, 11:06:12 AMI'll always feel slightly cheated

(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/0a/0a2b76fd6d6ef6b4fe0abbff1b45d0469e4baad1f8576f08798b81cc6b1e4fb7.jpg)

Har bloody har.

To clarify - The prospect, intention to possibly deliver, and indeed rough plot and synopsis, of a continuation of the film's story was dangled in front of our noses by the writer and then, due to poor box office, was cruelly snatched away by circumstance. In that way, I feel we were cheated out of sequel(s) to a fantastic film.

Is that more within the realms of what is permissable to say aloud about the DREDD film?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 23 January, 2015, 01:53:51 PM
Quote from: Spaceghost on 23 January, 2015, 01:42:18 PM
Is that more within the realms of what is permissable to say aloud about the DREDD film?

"Yeah."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 23 January, 2015, 02:45:20 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 23 January, 2015, 01:53:51 PM
Quote from: Spaceghost on 23 January, 2015, 01:42:18 PM
Is that more within the realms of what is permissable to say aloud about the DREDD film?

"Yeah."

Jim, I think you mean...............

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/image-33.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/image-33.jpg.html)


;)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 January, 2015, 03:00:11 PM
Nah this;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXzs5nuGNpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXzs5nuGNpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 23 January, 2015, 05:24:01 PM
QuoteTo clarify - The prospect, intention to possibly deliver, and indeed rough plot and synopsis, of a continuation of the film's story was dangled in front of our noses by the writer and then, due to poor box office, was cruelly snatched away by circumstance. In that way, I feel we were cheated out of sequel(s) to a fantastic film.

I hear you.

Though I'm very grateful for what we got, when I watch the film now I can't help but feel a slight sense of bittersweetness at what might have been.

On the other hand, it's nice to have something that leaves you wanting more rather than being run into the ground and milked to death like everything else is nowadays.

Perhaps Dredd standing alone as a brief day-in-the-life, 'one and done' glimpse of the character works perfectly..? Sequels that expanded the world and tried to add a grand mythos may well have fallen flat on their face, especially if the original creative team weren't as directly involved...

Speaking of which:

Quote"I actually find it quite hard to imagine going back to any story I've worked on in the past, personally," he said.

"I worked on 28 Days Later... and then there was a sequel to it and broadly speaking that was made by another group of people, and I didn't really personally want to be too involved.

"If you live with something for two years and you work on it very intensely - and making film is certainly, if nothing else, intense - then you sort of think, 'Enough!'

"I can't believe people who work on these things for 10 years, or 15 years. I mean it's fine, they can do what they want, but I have no idea how they're able to do that... To me, that would be hell, just awful."

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a622769/alex-garland-rules-out-ex-machina-sequel-i-cant-imagine-going-back.html#~p2dd7dYbOWGaKG (http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a622769/alex-garland-rules-out-ex-machina-sequel-i-cant-imagine-going-back.html#~p2dd7dYbOWGaKG)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 23 January, 2015, 05:26:01 PM
QuoteSequels that expanded the world and tried to add a grand mythos may well have fallen flat on their face

What I mean is they might have Chronicles Of Riddick'ed it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 January, 2015, 08:01:40 PM
Alex Garland: Career in Four Minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-oCdKlX0I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-oCdKlX0I)

Even he talk about Dredd (plus it nice edit of Dredd clips!) So what he talk about, as no subtitles...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 26 January, 2015, 09:41:28 PM
Since you asked, here's a transcript of the Dredd bit.

"I was a big 2000AD fan, I'd grown up reading 2000AD and Dredd was my favourite character in the comic.

Andrew and Allon had realised that the rights to Dredd were becoming available and partly because of the stigma attached to the first film they were going to be affordable, and Andrew, I think we were making Sunshine, we were making Sunshine at the time, and Andrew said do you want to do this?

And it was different from some of the other projects, because it wasn't a spec script where I was coming to them, it was Andrew saying 'Do you want to do it?'

But I immediately said yes, I was super-familiar with Dredd, and you know..."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 01 February, 2015, 12:47:59 PM
There's a fantastic interview with Garland on the latest Empire podcast, where he addresses the Dredd Question head on. http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=43307
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 01 February, 2015, 12:52:47 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 01 February, 2015, 12:47:59 PM
There's a fantastic interview with Garland on the latest Empire podcast, where he addresses the Dredd Question head on. http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=43307

Any idea how far in? I'm not sure I want to sit through an hour or more...

Ta!

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 01 February, 2015, 12:56:21 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 01 February, 2015, 12:52:47 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 01 February, 2015, 12:47:59 PM
There's a fantastic interview with Garland on the latest Empire podcast, where he addresses the Dredd Question head on. http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=43307

Any idea how far in? I'm not sure I want to sit through an hour or more...

Ta!

Jim

Good point! 25 minutes.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 02 February, 2015, 12:56:09 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 01 February, 2015, 12:56:21 PM
Good point! 25 minutes.

Brilliant — cheers!

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 02 February, 2015, 01:26:58 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 01 February, 2015, 12:47:59 PM
There's a fantastic interview with Garland on the latest Empire podcast, where he addresses the Dredd Question head on.

Yep. That was well worth a listen — thanks, Rich. Haven't managed to get the cinema recently, but hoping to get a showing of Ex Machina in next weekend.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Theblazeuk on 02 February, 2015, 03:29:04 PM
Ah, should have known some squaxx would have beat me to it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 February, 2015, 08:05:04 PM



Can't stop the signal - Starbuck wants a sequel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5qHsBIw_4M&t=30m53s).






Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 02 February, 2015, 09:23:52 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 February, 2015, 08:05:04 PM
Can't stop the signal - Starbuck wants a sequel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5qHsBIw_4M&t=30m53s).

Didn't even realise he and his wife had separated, huh.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 03 February, 2015, 07:48:04 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 February, 2015, 08:05:04 PM



Can't stop the signal - Starbuck wants a sequel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5qHsBIw_4M&t=30m53s).

At roughly what point in 1 hr and 51 mins is it discussed please?  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 February, 2015, 07:57:17 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 03 February, 2015, 07:48:04 AM
At roughly what point in 1 hr and 51 mins is it discussed please?  ;)

The link jumps in at about 31 minutes, although it's not particularly illuminating...

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 03 February, 2015, 08:09:12 AM
Quote from: Molch-R on 02 February, 2015, 09:23:52 PM
Didn't even realise he and his wife had separated, huh.

At least we know who got the toaster.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 03 February, 2015, 11:54:50 AM
Sackhoff may have been a good pick for Judge Kaplan had the role been expanded a little a'la Dredd Vs Lex. Though it's probably a good thing it wasn't. There's a couple of reasons a cliched cat fight wouldn't have been preferable to what we got.

Though now that there's a slim chance we won't get a sequel it's nice to think about a slightly extended cut with stuff like this added.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 February, 2015, 12:01:52 PM
Loved Katee Sackhoff!

Wondering if there's Dredd 2, she could be perfect as Judge DeMarco?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 February, 2015, 12:06:09 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 03 February, 2015, 12:01:52 PM
Wondering if there's Dredd 2

Garland says that if there ever is another Dredd movie, it's not going to be a sequel to his film.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NapalmKev on 03 February, 2015, 12:12:07 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 03 February, 2015, 12:06:09 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 03 February, 2015, 12:01:52 PM
Wondering if there's Dredd 2

Garland says that if there ever is another Dredd movie, it's not going to be a sequel to his film.

Cheers

Jim

Looks like we'll have to get Stallone involved. Judge Dredd 2, Ahoy!

I won't bother with me coat, it's quite warm out.

Cheers
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 February, 2015, 12:17:44 PM
Quote from: NapalmKev on 03 February, 2015, 12:12:07 PM

Looks like we'll have to get Stallone involved. Judge Dredd 2, Ahoy!

(https://hellcourt.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/dreddfist.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 February, 2015, 12:19:53 PM
Quote from: NapalmKev on 03 February, 2015, 12:12:07 PM
I won't bother with me coat, it's quite warm out.

I knew you'd say that.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 05 February, 2015, 11:27:45 AM
Sequel Monk not dead

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-31125338 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-31125338)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 March, 2015, 01:13:50 PM
Good article

Dredd: the best movie John Carpenter never made?

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd/34313/dredd-the-best-movie-john-carpenter-never-made (http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd/34313/dredd-the-best-movie-john-carpenter-never-made)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bolt-01 on 03 March, 2015, 01:42:00 PM
Indeed, I enjoyed that a lot. Good find Goaty.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 March, 2015, 04:43:21 PM
Still stand by that three star review, Den of Geek?  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 March, 2015, 04:57:07 PM
Adi posts up an informative video on how a sequal could be made.

HOW TO MAKE A DREDD SEQUEL (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWP88WKVBKs)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 05 March, 2015, 05:26:45 PM
I'm taking that video as a positive and you can't stop me. I'll give Dwayne a shout, he'll be mad for it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 05 March, 2015, 06:12:41 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 05 March, 2015, 05:26:45 PM
I'm taking that video as a positive and you can't stop me. I'll give Dwayne a shout, he'll be mad for it.

Cast The Rock as Mean Machine and we've got our movie!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spikes on 05 March, 2015, 06:35:19 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 March, 2015, 04:57:07 PM
Adi posts up an informative video on how a sequal could be made.

I stopped watching after three seconds. Is his suggestion 'animation'?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 March, 2015, 07:04:11 PM
Live action!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 06 March, 2015, 08:04:46 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 05 March, 2015, 06:12:41 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 05 March, 2015, 05:26:45 PM
I'm taking that video as a positive and you can't stop me. I'll give Dwayne a shout, he'll be mad for it.

Cast The Rock as Mean Machine and we've got our movie!  ;)
I think he'd be a better fit as Judge Giant. I always pictured MM being played by Vin Diesel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 06 March, 2015, 08:22:09 AM
Quote from: Spikes on 05 March, 2015, 06:35:19 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 March, 2015, 04:57:07 PM
Adi posts up an informative video on how a sequal could be made.

I stopped watching after three seconds. Is his suggestion 'animation'?

Yup. He's a self serving asshole.

Step 1: script
Step 2: make film with actors(no need to pay anyone - just tell them the exposure will be good for them)
Step 3: ...erm
Step 4: PROFIT!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 06 March, 2015, 10:10:42 AM
There won't be another Film/sequel. TV series or nothing -so it will nothing ! >sniff<

We've still got the comic. Hopefully.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dodsy on 06 March, 2015, 12:41:03 PM
Did anyone else get a tweet from Adi today with a link to the video and asking people to spread the word? Or is he just my best friend now?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 06 March, 2015, 12:49:21 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 06 March, 2015, 08:22:09 AM
Quote from: Spikes on 05 March, 2015, 06:35:19 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 March, 2015, 04:57:07 PM
Adi posts up an informative video on how a sequal could be made.

I stopped watching after three seconds. Is his suggestion 'animation'?

Yup. He's a self serving asshole.

Step 1: script
Step 2: make film with actors(no need to pay anyone - just tell them the exposure will be good for them)
Step 3: ...erm
Step 4: PROFIT!
Agreed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 March, 2015, 10:24:45 PM
Holy smoke! Check out https://www.facebook.com/bawzprops (https://www.facebook.com/bawzprops) As he got 350 behind the scenes photos of Dredd! As some behind;

(http://i.imgur.com/0WxjjNj.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/pQoSRM3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gZs0rGT.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jAkA3MS.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/nC9IPrk.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 16 March, 2015, 11:14:03 AM
You wouldn't think the Film was three years old. Those on set photos show the hard work and dedication it took to make it. Long live Dredd!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DKCX on 17 March, 2015, 05:59:36 PM
Great find Goaty!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 17 March, 2015, 10:02:39 PM
Interesting to see all the pics of the deleted scene of Dredd shooting through the hostage to take out the perp in the beginning of the film.

Wonder if we'll ever see that scene included as an extra on any future release?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 27 March, 2015, 10:16:28 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 15 March, 2015, 10:24:45 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/pQoSRM3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gZs0rGT.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jAkA3MS.jpg)

There won't be another Dredd but the Production design for the Movie is still Mega.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 27 March, 2015, 10:50:54 PM
Note how Anderson's helmet is practically brand new, her being a Rookie and all. Attention to detail there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 07 April, 2015, 09:06:24 PM
It looks so good. Ah well...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 07 April, 2015, 09:24:45 PM
You've all just missed some fun on Facebook.

Some bod came on saying that Dredd 2 was on it's way and this was his opening gambit!

QuoteHey Everyone.

At the end of the year there is going to be a short 10 minute film shot in Sydney as proof of concept for the official sequel to Dredd called Dredd: Total War. If anyone wants to be a Judge and has the Dredd universe uniform/costume, please PM me and I can pass on your details to Melted Sky Productions.

Also guys: WE ARE GETTING A DREDD SEQUEL!!!

As you can imagine, many questions were asked and the bloke got into a bit of a strop and said that he couldn't believe none of us wanted in and then he deleted his thread after something like 100+ replies in half an hour. He even mentioned the dreaded crowd funding route!

It's a pity he took it down as I'm sure many others would've enjoyed contributing to the one sided debate. And to think I was booking my flight down to OZ :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 April, 2015, 09:30:39 PM
It's a fan film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 April, 2015, 09:35:26 PM
I'd seen it mentioned for a while, along with some guys in Arizona doing a fan film - if he was talking about crowdfunding (and trying to make it feel like it was part of a sequel), that was pretty stupid.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 07 April, 2015, 09:37:46 PM
He was asked if it was a fan film and denied it but the toll of constant questions from all the unbelievers out there killed him in the end.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 07 April, 2015, 09:40:17 PM
Still seems to be a lot of interest in this out there. Z
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 07 April, 2015, 09:54:05 PM
There's no shame in it being a fan film - if he was trying to pitch it as some kind of 'proof of concept', you don't need one, there's already been a film.

It's the audience you need a proof of concept for, and a freebie 10 minute short doesn't prove anything.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 08 April, 2015, 01:56:39 PM
Sounds like it serves him right. Nothing wrong with making a fan film but if the intent was to pass it off as an official real thing then that is very bad form. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 April, 2015, 04:52:12 PM
Yeah, I don't know why you'd even imply it's connected to a sequel, rather than just say you're making a fan film.

Maybe he thought he wouldn't get any interest without it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 April, 2015, 11:24:44 AM
The Sweeny [2012] is on Film4 at 9:00PM on Wednesday the 15th of April. It came out around the same time as Dredd but I've yet to see Dredd on a terrestrial TV channel.

Any idea when and on which channel the futures toughest Lawman will make his debut?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 12 April, 2015, 03:52:50 PM
Film4 would seem an obvious choice (British film; critically acclaimed). Knowing Dredd's luck, it'll be on Channel 5, cut to ribbons and full of ads.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 April, 2015, 10:26:59 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 April, 2015, 11:24:44 AM
The Sweeny [2012] is on Film4 at 9:00PM on Wednesday the 15th of April. It came out around the same time as Dredd but I've yet to see Dredd on a terrestrial TV channel.



Ironically The Sweeney was the project DNA films were going to make under their deal with FOX Searchlight before they let the rights go and opted Dredd.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 April, 2015, 08:15:22 PM
DREDD MONDO STEELBOOK, AVAILABLE TO PRE_ORDER!!!!!!!


...but only if you live in Canada.

http://plug-in.bestbuy.ca/t5/Visit-the-Plug-in-Blog/Mondo-X-SteelBook-is-back-Announcing-005-Dredd/ba-p/113490 (http://plug-in.bestbuy.ca/t5/Visit-the-Plug-in-Blog/Mondo-X-SteelBook-is-back-Announcing-005-Dredd/ba-p/113490)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 April, 2015, 08:44:10 PM
http://mondotees.com/blogs/news/19173911-mondo-x-steelbook-005-dredd (http://mondotees.com/blogs/news/19173911-mondo-x-steelbook-005-dredd)

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0558/2081/files/DREDD_Packshot_1_blog_1024x1024.jpg?34187933885452852)(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0558/2081/files/DREDD_Packshot_5_blog_1024x1024.jpg?341876658414747957)(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0558/2081/files/DREDD_Packshot_4_blog_1024x1024.jpg?5699778877463799472)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 14 April, 2015, 08:50:11 PM
Now who do we know in Canada......  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 April, 2015, 09:32:57 PM
To be clear, you literally cannot place an order unless you have a Canada shipping address.

Quite the feat of trolling there, Best Buy. Thanks!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 April, 2015, 10:05:11 PM
Quote from: radiator on 14 April, 2015, 08:15:22 PM
...but only if you live in Canada.


Which is why ebay exists:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DREDD-Mondo-Steelbook-Best-Bay-Canada-Blu-Ray-3D-DVD-not-print-vinyl-Drive-/191558740574?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2c99ca6a5e
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 April, 2015, 04:00:38 AM
Zavvi is listing their long-rumoured Dredd steelbook for August 10th, though it's unclear whether it's already sold out or just not live yet (I've pre-ordered a few discs from them in the past and it can be unclear). However, with a limited run of just 2000 copies for a film with such a big cult following I expect it'll sell out before most of us get a look in anyway.

I doubt it's the same version as that beautiful Canadian Mondo edition (and doubt it will have the Jock Mondo artwork) and is listed as a single-disc version.

http://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/dredd-3d-includes-2d-version-zavvi-exclusive-limited-edition-steelbook-blu-ray/11090757.html (http://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/dredd-3d-includes-2d-version-zavvi-exclusive-limited-edition-steelbook-blu-ray/11090757.html)

For John Wagner-related steelbook completists, they are also listing a A History of Violence steelbook for release on the same day:

http://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/a-history-of-violence-zavvi-exclusive-limited-edition-steelbook/11090759.html?affil=awin&awc=2549_1429066513_0ccb802de71e31b5433de12e42b1f342&utm_source=AWin-187797&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=AffiliateWin (http://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/a-history-of-violence-zavvi-exclusive-limited-edition-steelbook/11090759.html?affil=awin&awc=2549_1429066513_0ccb802de71e31b5433de12e42b1f342&utm_source=AWin-187797&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=AffiliateWin)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 15 April, 2015, 05:17:39 PM
Does anyone know if the Mondo steelbook region free? My brother stays in Canada so I'm considering getting him to grab me a copy and bring it over when he visits!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 April, 2015, 06:26:59 PM
I wouldn't have thought so.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 15 April, 2015, 06:36:48 PM
Not a chance. Lionsgate region lock all their titles.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 April, 2015, 06:44:25 PM
Yeah, I would expect that it's region locked.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 15 April, 2015, 07:44:02 PM
Ah well. Couldn't find anything on their site about it so thought it was worth hoping for the best. Shame, looks lovely, and just the fact it has some decent sounding featurettes and the 2D/3D is on separate discs makes it really desirable. Bah.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 15 April, 2015, 07:53:38 PM
Presumably the 2D and 3D versions are on the same disc as is the case with the UK Blu Ray, and the second disc is a DVD.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 April, 2015, 04:17:02 AM
Mine's on it's way and I'll get Jock to sign it at Lawgiver II.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 April, 2015, 12:00:54 AM

It was always the elephant in the room.




[Three years later, Garland has an idea why that film – which he had planned as the first part of a trilogy – flopped.

"When we tried to pull that movie together, I remember one of the studio bosses said to us, 'I'm going to pass on this movie and the reason I'm going to pass is you will never get over the stink of the (1995 Sylvester Stallone version)'... I think that was probably the biggest problem we had... There might have been a clever marketing way to get around that; maybe a way of saying, 'Forget that other movie'... But that's not the way it was sold. It was sold as a generic action movie and it bombed."]




http://www.torontosun.com/2015/04/24/ex-machinas-alex-garland-talks-ai-and-reveals-why-dredd-might-have-flopped
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 25 April, 2015, 10:41:59 AM
I don't know what could have been done really.

It's such a lean movie that showing the first 10 minutes as a preview online is a hefty chunk of the film, and doesn't show the relationship between Dredd and Anderson, and just shows the budget being stretched on the exteriors.

No-one else seems to do much of that kind of previewing any more, same with webisodes between TV series to keep interest ticking over.

It does make me wonder if you're rebooting an IP like Dredd, or something from scratch, that laying some groundwork other than trailers might be an idea - something not too effects heavy if you have the sets and costumes around.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 25 April, 2015, 10:43:52 AM
Ah, we learn a little more why Dredd sadly didn't fulfill it's promise despite [mostly] positive reviews. The shadow of Stallone's Judge Dredd cursed it from the start. Damn shame but that's history. I suspect Dredd was never familiar enough a character to American audiences anyway.

I'm still hoping for TV show ala Gotham but if not we've still got the comic and that's where Dredd is still  best.
Maybe the genre that defined Judge Dredd, the comic strip is the only medium that can fully convey the bonkers reality that is Mega City 1. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 25 April, 2015, 04:51:31 PM
The third attempt at it can learn by this mistake...

Something like, but not restricted to:

"Well we looked at the 1995 film and the fact no one thought another Judge Dredd film would be made. But look at the great job Alex Garland did with his version. At the same time a group of other guys in Britain did a movie accurate fan film called Judge Minty. So we knew there was still a market, all we have to do is make it marketable.

So, this isn't a remake or a reboot. This is a fresh look from us. We've gone back to the original material. We've checked out what some of the writers have done with it in the comics. Guys like Al Ewing, Rob Williams, Simon Spurrier and Michael Carroll.

You can expect all the traditional aspects of Judge, Jury and Executioner and the helmet staying on. You can expect the city to be almost a character itself. You can expect futuristic hobbies in a city with around 1% employment. You can expect a radiated wasteland outside the city full of desperate people trying to make a life.

Judge Dredd, Mega-City One, Cursed Earth and a whole lot of crazy."

I dunno.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 April, 2015, 08:00:33 PM
Dredd on Channel 4 next Saturday! So glad as C5 would be heavy cuts!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 25 April, 2015, 11:01:15 PM
Nice preview of Dredd's lawmaster chase the van on end of Paul film tonight.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 26 April, 2015, 11:17:08 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 25 April, 2015, 08:00:33 PM
Dredd on Channel 4 next Saturday! So glad as C5 would be heavy cuts!

Saturday,Channel 4,22:00 hours. Set watches/alarms/phone reminders even.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 26 April, 2015, 11:39:36 PM
I might be watching Age of Ultron
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 April, 2015, 02:11:14 AM



Concept poster by Dave Rapoza

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/9fed3db9d4f5e4ea565c824d561deb2a/tumblr_nlybrs680S1qh0iv0o1_1280.jpg)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 27 April, 2015, 02:52:18 AM
That's pretty damned good!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 27 April, 2015, 07:56:36 AM
That reminds me of the Bryan Talbot Dredd picture - the same, but in black and white ink.  Unfortunately Google isn't giving up the goods this morning, but I'm sure you know the one I mean.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 27 April, 2015, 08:08:03 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 27 April, 2015, 07:56:36 AM
That reminds me of the Bryan Talbot Dredd picture - the same, but in black and white ink.  Unfortunately Google isn't giving up the goods this morning, but I'm sure you know the one I mean.

The Dice Man splash page...?

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LEDboGdyUF4/TmxSreolzII/AAAAAAAAANw/DwVwPxwrzIg/s1600/youaredredd.gif)

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 April, 2015, 08:52:37 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 April, 2015, 02:11:14 AM
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/9fed3db9d4f5e4ea565c824d561deb2a/tumblr_nlybrs680S1qh0iv0o1_1280.jpg)
So beautiful poster and nice body shot! lol
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 27 April, 2015, 09:41:45 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 27 April, 2015, 08:08:03 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 27 April, 2015, 07:56:36 AM
That reminds me of the Bryan Talbot Dredd picture - the same, but in black and white ink.  Unfortunately Google isn't giving up the goods this morning, but I'm sure you know the one I mean.

The Dice Man splash page...?

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LEDboGdyUF4/TmxSreolzII/AAAAAAAAANw/DwVwPxwrzIg/s1600/youaredredd.gif)

Cheers

Jim

No there's definitely one out there by Talbot where Dredd is visible through a hole in someone's head. It is a gif that I saw I believe, as there was blood oozing around the wound and stuff, but there's a straight JPEG of it too. I probably saved it in my photobucket somewhere - l'll have to try and dig it out when I get home.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 April, 2015, 09:59:29 AM
(https://pbmo.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/dredd-by-tony-moore1.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 27 April, 2015, 10:07:02 AM
That's the one!  Hmmm, maybe not Bryan Talbot?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 April, 2015, 10:08:34 AM
It's Tony Moore.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 27 April, 2015, 02:03:39 PM
That would explain why my Google searches couldn't find it!!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 02 May, 2015, 12:49:30 AM
I'm still gutted that a second installment has eluded us as i think Garland had pretty much nailed Dredd along with the cast. Bet Karl Urban is gutted too as he made that his own , still hoping for a TV series with him reprising the role may appear in the near future as this sort of genre is thriving at the moment. We can only dream  :). Does anyone know if you can see the scene which was cut where Dredd shoots through a citizen to get the perp running from the van at the begining can be seen. Ive seen the pics for it so it must be able to be seen somewhere.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 May, 2015, 01:12:41 AM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 02 May, 2015, 12:49:30 AMDoes anyone know if you can see the scene which was cut where Dredd shoots through a citizen to get the perp running from the van at the begining can be seen. Ive seen the pics for it so it must be able to be seen somewhere.


Nope; the scene was never released by the studio. The photographs came from crew members.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 02 May, 2015, 10:06:13 AM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 02 May, 2015, 12:49:30 AM
Does anyone know if you can see the scene which was cut where Dredd shoots through a citizen to get the perp running from the van at the begining can be seen.

He is the futures most fascist Law man after all! What a scene that would have been. I guess they didn't want to make him to much of a Goon squader for the audience. 'We protect the citizenry- by occasionally shooting them to stop crime.' Yes your always safe with Judge Dredd. It's like they were paying homage to the comic with that scene 'Lawmaster on the loose' style. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 02 May, 2015, 10:53:30 AM
Cheers Joe , still would have love to have seen it as an extra on the dvd though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zenith 666 on 02 May, 2015, 01:20:46 PM
That footage must exist because it was used In test screenings.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 May, 2015, 05:13:54 PM
Dredd on tonight, creeps.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 02 May, 2015, 08:14:12 PM
Dredd limited edition mediabook.

Available to pre-order from Amazon, Germany now!

http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/b00ww3j2hk/osterreichi01-21&tag=hidefnin0d-21?tag=hidefnin0d-21


(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/image.jpg1_2.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/image.jpg1_2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 05 May, 2015, 10:50:31 PM
Zavvi now have a thumbnail up of their steelbook:

(http://s4.thcdn.com/productimg/300/300/11090757-1804288605787341.JPG)

While it's not as nice as the Mondo edition it still looks pretty cool.

http://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/dredd-3d-includes-2d-version-zavvi-exclusive-limited-edition-steelbook-blu-ray/11090757.html (http://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/dredd-3d-includes-2d-version-zavvi-exclusive-limited-edition-steelbook-blu-ray/11090757.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: karlurbaninternational on 06 May, 2015, 04:29:11 AM
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/f5e17cd324163b83664594b98fed7e0a/tumblr_nnws4yQu6m1rtk4rzo1_1280.png)

http://ilzekitshoff.com/
many pics and showreel
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 06 May, 2015, 08:51:56 AM
I assume the zavvi Dredd is 'sold out' as its not got stock yet not because it's sold out. Or I'd be miffed
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fungus on 06 May, 2015, 10:28:58 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 27 April, 2015, 08:08:03 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 27 April, 2015, 07:56:36 AM
That reminds me of the Bryan Talbot Dredd picture - the same, but in black and white ink.  Unfortunately Google isn't giving up the goods this morning, but I'm sure you know the one I mean.

The Dice Man splash page...?

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LEDboGdyUF4/TmxSreolzII/AAAAAAAAANw/DwVwPxwrzIg/s1600/youaredredd.gif)

Cheers

Jim

Nice to see the artist get 'top' billing in those credits. A rarity  :)
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 06 May, 2015, 02:30:39 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 06 May, 2015, 08:51:56 AM
I assume the zavvi Dredd is 'sold out' as its not got stock yet not because it's sold out. Or I'd be miffed

Pretty sure it's the former, though as I believe its limited to a run of 2000 copies i expect it will sell out very quickly once it goes live.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 07 May, 2015, 12:06:47 PM
Hope so. I'm on Zavvis steelbook list which means they mail you at least 3 times a day with new releases and low quantities. I'd be annoyed if I've sat through all that spam and they snuck this one out  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 May, 2015, 11:54:13 AM
No Dredd sequel: :'( No Labour Party in Government! :sick: I'm going to get  drunk  tonight!!  :crazy:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 May, 2015, 11:28:49 PM



Karl Urban at Wizard World Philadelphia 2015 where he mentions a couple of organizations that are vying to get the rights to a Dredd sequel:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU0h9IadIPk&t=1m45s



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 May, 2015, 12:13:22 AM
Hmmm.

I don't doubt Urban's sincerity, but tbh now that Garland has categorically ruled himself (and by the sounds of it the entire production crew of the original) out of any potential further involvement with the 'franchise' I'm more than a little anxious about any attempt to make a non-DNA sequel. Would be devastating if, after all the hype and teeth-gnashing, the rights end up in less capable hands and the resulting film turns out to be a dud.

I also can't help but feel that the iron might have gone a bit cold. Even if a sequel started production tomorrow it would be very unlikely to see the light of day before the five-year anniversary of the original's release.

Sorry if that's a bit negative.

Of course, if either one of the 'organisations' he's alluding to is Netflix or HBO then I take it all back.  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 13 May, 2015, 01:01:07 AM
On my listening it sounds like Karl is actually involved in trying to get a Sequel. If so that's cool.

Not holding my breath mind you.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 13 May, 2015, 05:27:27 PM
Quote from: radiator on 13 May, 2015, 12:13:22 AM
Of course, if either one of the 'organisations' he's alluding to is Netflix or HBO then I take it all back.  ;)

That's my thinking, it seems prime fodder for some sort of Netflix series, possibly a short season to account for the future setting pushing the budget higher than they're probably used to for their shows. The more I think about it the more I think it could really work and would really be the best home for Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 May, 2015, 05:38:26 PM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 13 May, 2015, 05:27:27 PM
Quote from: radiator on 13 May, 2015, 12:13:22 AM
Of course, if either one of the 'organisations' he's alluding to is Netflix or HBO then I take it all back.  ;)

That's my thinking, it seems prime fodder for some sort of Netflix series, possibly a short season to account for the future setting pushing the budget higher than they're probably used to for their shows. The more I think about it the more I think it could really work and would really be the best home for Dredd.

I remember when the film first came out even Garland casually mentioned how cool an HBO Dredd series would be. At the time I thought it would make for a very good fit - HBO have very much put their stamp on  the police procedural, gangster, War, Western and Fantasy genres, but they've never really done a meaty sci fi series. I believe they've now got a few sci fi projects in development though, so the prospect of them picking up something like Dredd is unlikely.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 May, 2015, 02:49:05 PM
The Zavvi Dredd price is known now and I think many may be put off but you do get a ZBOX Exclusive Limited Edition Numbered ZBOX Keychain.

Oh by the way it's £44.99
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 May, 2015, 03:34:45 PM
(http://s1.thcdn.com/productimg/300/300/11122562-1544296111465507.jpg)(http://s2.thcdn.com/productimg/300/300/11122562-8464296111461061.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 May, 2015, 04:24:59 PM
You'll be buying loads, won't you Goaty!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 19 May, 2015, 04:53:39 PM
Zavvi is still listing it as £24.99
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 May, 2015, 04:56:11 PM
That's a more reasonable price!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 19 May, 2015, 05:22:45 PM
Hmmmm £44.99 when I looked. For that price I'd need more info on whether it'll have additional extras. If it's just the same disc in a steelbook then the markup seems a bit much for me to justify the purchase.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 19 May, 2015, 05:39:35 PM
So, risking this being a stupid question, what is the difference between a steelbook and a conventional dvd/blu-ray? Apart from the fancy box.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 May, 2015, 05:56:34 PM
A fancy box.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 19 May, 2015, 06:01:23 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 19 May, 2015, 05:39:35 PM
So, risking this being a stupid question, what is the difference between a steelbook and a conventional dvd/blu-ray? Apart from the fancy box.
A fancy box. They're a bit naff IMHO.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 May, 2015, 06:03:57 PM
I think I read somewhere on the page that, if they lower the price, all will pay the lower price.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 May, 2015, 06:17:53 PM
Metal case - nice enough... hardback vs soft back equivalent really.

The Zbox is some kind of blind item thing I think - in addition to the key ring.

It's a bit vague on details like disc content.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DaveGYNWA on 19 May, 2015, 06:53:55 PM
http://www.zavvi.com/zbox/cop-zbox/-dredd-steelbook-june/11122562.html

Scroll down and take a look at the previous ZBoxes they've done.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 19 May, 2015, 07:35:05 PM
Never heard of this 'ZBox' thing before - that's certainly an... interesting... sales technique...

Good luck with that, chaps!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SIP on 19 May, 2015, 07:53:43 PM
So, has this actually been on sale yet, did I miss it?........the site shows as sold out?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 May, 2015, 07:56:13 PM



Might have been a bit more appealing to customers if they'd spent the money on the art-work rather than a more or less straight copy of the regular plastic version with the same art desaturated on the inside. The other steelbooks have a better finish to them or new covers.

(http://s1.thcdn.com/productimg/600/600/11090757-8244294026969930.JPG)

(http://s2.thcdn.com/productimg/600/600/11090757-7434294026822270.JPG)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 May, 2015, 10:30:32 PM
It's on sale tomorrow apparently.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 May, 2015, 08:55:57 AM
There must be a T-Shirt included, as there's a size box to tick, when you pre-order!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 20 May, 2015, 10:25:03 AM
On sale now, and still no detail about what's on the disc sadly.

Would agree that the artwork is disappointing too, usually the steelbook editions are a good opportunity to do something cool with the artwork (maybe a Jock image or something would have been nice). To just plap on the art from the regular release doesn't show a lot of thought.

Still, if there are some extras on that disc, I'm in!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 May, 2015, 10:36:59 AM
When you read all the extra info there must be a few bits added but they don't say what!
It'll be like Christmas when it arrives, as then you'll find out what they've added :D

Unless they tell us in a few weeks time :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 May, 2015, 11:01:55 AM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 20 May, 2015, 10:25:03 AM
On sale now, and still no detail about what's on the disc sadly.


Likely a collection of the same extras that appear on other discs; Zavvi don't add extra content, they just repackage other releases or special-editions.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 20 May, 2015, 11:13:43 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 May, 2015, 11:01:55 AM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 20 May, 2015, 10:25:03 AM
On sale now, and still no detail about what's on the disc sadly.


Likely a collection of the same extras that appear on other discs; Zavvi don't add extra content, they just repackage other releases or special-editions.

Yeah I've just been speaking to a colleague who did the Zavvi steelbook/Z Box bundle thing in the past and he said the same thing, just a repackaged disc. He also said the Z box bundle he got was "90% tat and nowhere near worth the money" so I think I'm off the idea!

A shame, I was looking at a canadian steelbook recently that was loaded with new extras, but wasn't region free sadly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 20 May, 2015, 06:17:08 PM
As previewed in the 2000ad Thrillmail, the Zbox includes:

Dredd Steelbook
Dredd: Underbelly One-shot with Exclusive Trevor Hairsine cover
Planet Replica Dredd badge
Planet Replica Dredd badge keychain

Plus probably some other, non-Dredd related stuff(?)

So I retract my earlier cynicism - that's actually a fairly decent deal. Not for me, but not what I'd call 'tat' either.

(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/a6e40236aa24d482cfff600d2/images/dca61146-448b-47c9-b7da-25140258e92d.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 May, 2015, 07:32:41 PM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 20 May, 2015, 11:13:43 AMA shame, I was looking at a canadian steelbook recently that was loaded with new extras, but wasn't region free sadly.


The Mondo steelbook has the same extras that all ready exist on the US blu-ray - there's nothing new on it. There are few independent distributors who add new extras because it costs them money; Shout Factory being one of the only ones who do actual special-editions with new featurettes/remasters. The most you'll find on some of the others is a new transfer with maybe an isolated music track.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PlanetReplicas on 20 May, 2015, 08:27:41 PM
The Zavvi 'COPS' Edition zbox( JUNE)
http://www.zavvi.com/zbox/cops-zbox-june/11122582.html

will contain 4 exclusive items such as our very own, 'remastered' metal DREDD badge-( it's different to our original release and only available within this one-month only box )-
An exclusive cover variant of UNDERBELLY, as well as a sized T-Shirt and numerous other 'COP' themed merchandise and offers etc......
Well worth a punt at £19. 99 !

The DREDD Steel book will also contain another Zavvi Exclusive -a variant of our DREDD Keychain, which is velvet pouched and especially laser numbered to your edition of Steelbook.

(You can also buy the two together in a joint offer)

We've been extremely proud to work alongside Zavvi on this release, and certainly hope to offer more exclusive merchandise from 2000 AD through their channels!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 May, 2015, 09:54:50 PM
May I ask how the Dredd badge differs?   :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 May, 2015, 10:56:58 PM
I bought mine at 09:00 and I'm fuming that it's not arrived yet!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 20 May, 2015, 11:00:28 PM
OK, so for £20 that is definitely a great deal. I'd be tempted if I didn't already own the keychain (and have the Mondo version pre-ordered!).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 20 May, 2015, 11:00:41 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 May, 2015, 07:32:41 PM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 20 May, 2015, 11:13:43 AMA shame, I was looking at a canadian steelbook recently that was loaded with new extras, but wasn't region free sadly.


The Mondo steelbook has the same extras that all ready exist on the US blu-ray - there's nothing new on it. There are few independent distributors who add new extras because it costs them money; Shout Factory being one of the only ones who do actual special-editions with new featurettes/remasters. The most you'll find on some of the others is a new transfer with maybe an isolated music track.

Cool, I assumed the Mondo extras were new because there looked to be more on there than the UK release, didn't realize the US got a better package to begin with!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 May, 2015, 01:18:29 AM
Quote from: radiator on 20 May, 2015, 11:00:28 PM
OK, so for £20 that is definitely a great deal. I'd be tempted if I didn't already own the keychain (and have the Mondo version pre-ordered!).


The full-sized badge is worth it for that price alone.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 21 May, 2015, 09:03:05 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 May, 2015, 01:18:29 AM
Quote from: radiator on 20 May, 2015, 11:00:28 PM
OK, so for £20 that is definitely a great deal. I'd be tempted if I didn't already own the keychain (and have the Mondo version pre-ordered!).


The full-sized badge is worth it for that price alone.

So, the £20 pack is a t-shirt, badge and Underbelly comic but no Blu Ray? I'm confused...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 21 May, 2015, 09:11:58 AM
As far as I can work out...

The cheaper pack is the steelbook blu-ray and the keychain, the more expensive one includes t-shirt, badge, blu-ray, keychain, underbelly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 21 May, 2015, 10:19:46 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 21 May, 2015, 09:11:58 AM
As far as I can work out...

The cheaper pack is the steelbook blu-ray and the keychain, the more expensive one includes t-shirt, badge, blu-ray, keychain, underbelly.

I would have thought so too, but the product description in the link makes no mention of the Blu Ray or, in fact, the Dredd film at all.

http://www.zavvi.com/zbox/cops-zbox-june/11122582.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 21 May, 2015, 10:26:58 AM
Will it feature a complete box-set of the BBC's excellent but sadly forgotten The Cops (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cops_%28TV_series%29) perhaps...?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PlanetReplicas on 21 May, 2015, 10:51:54 AM
The cheaper pack at £19 doesn't contain the blueray with keychain...but everything else.
http://www.zavvi.com/zbox/cops-zbox-june/11122582.html

The more expensive pack is the combo, where you get the box AND the Blueray with Keychain.
http://www.zavvi.com/zbox/cops-zbox/-dredd-steelbook-june/11122562.html

It looks like the Steelbook with keychain on its own has sold out, although thats not for us to say !
http://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/dredd-3d-includes-2d-version-zavvi-exclusive-limited-edition-steelbook-blu-ray/11090757.html

The exclusive Zavvi Full size metal DREDD badge has an improved 'aged' finish and has a recessed back design ;-)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 May, 2015, 10:52:49 AM
I am waiting for "Goaty" special...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 21 May, 2015, 11:07:33 AM
Quote from: PlanetReplicas on 21 May, 2015, 10:51:54 AM
The cheaper pack at £19 doesn't contain the blueray with keychain...but everything else.
http://www.zavvi.com/zbox/cops-zbox-june/11122582.html

The more expensive pack is the combo, where you get the box AND the Blueray with Keychain.
http://www.zavvi.com/zbox/cops-zbox/-dredd-steelbook-june/11122562.html

It looks like the Steelbook with keychain on its own has sold out, although thats not for us to say !
http://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/dredd-3d-includes-2d-version-zavvi-exclusive-limited-edition-steelbook-blu-ray/11090757.html

The exclusive Zavvi Full size metal DREDD badge has an improved 'aged' finish and has a recessed back design ;-)

Thanks for clearing that up.

In that case, I'll go for the steelbook/key chain combo (when they're back in stock).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 May, 2015, 11:49:38 AM
When you buy the ZBOX, you get everything. I had to contact the company as I was puzzled by my checkout basket.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Link Prime on 21 May, 2015, 12:14:26 PM
Quote from: PlanetReplicas on 20 May, 2015, 08:27:41 PM
The Zavvi 'COPS' Edition zbox( JUNE)
http://www.zavvi.com/zbox/cops-zbox-june/11122582.html

will contain 4 exclusive items such as our very own, 'remastered' metal DREDD badge-( it's different to our original release and only available within this one-month only box )-
An exclusive cover variant of UNDERBELLY, as well as a sized T-Shirt and numerous other 'COP' themed merchandise and offers etc......
Well worth a punt at £19. 99 !

That Zbox is great value- and free delivery to ROI too.
Ordered!

Not really pushed on the Dredd Steelbook. As is the case with most of us, I have the Blu-ray already.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 21 May, 2015, 02:43:02 PM
I managed to score a steelbook, looks like they are all gone now if you dont want to buy the zbox. 25 notes for a film I have in a steelbook is a lot if there isnt any extras but what the hey, its all positive indicators to the powers that be, no doubt at this moment hovering their fingers over the 'greenlight' button for a sequel
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 21 May, 2015, 03:19:19 PM
Quote from: Link Prime on 21 May, 2015, 12:14:26 PM
Quote from: PlanetReplicas on 20 May, 2015, 08:27:41 PM
The Zavvi 'COPS' Edition zbox( JUNE)
http://www.zavvi.com/zbox/cops-zbox-june/11122582.html

will contain 4 exclusive items such as our very own, 'remastered' metal DREDD badge-( it's different to our original release and only available within this one-month only box )-
An exclusive cover variant of UNDERBELLY, as well as a sized T-Shirt and numerous other 'COP' themed merchandise and offers etc......
Well worth a punt at £19. 99 !

That Zbox is great value- and free delivery to ROI too.
Ordered!

Not really pushed on the Dredd Steelbook. As is the case with most of us, I have the Blu-ray already.

I've got 2. And 2 DVDs.

You'll all be thanking me when that sequel gets made...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 May, 2015, 08:14:01 PM
Got it yet, CF?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 May, 2015, 10:14:31 PM
Still not arrived, I'm fuming!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 May, 2015, 10:26:23 PM
Oh damn! Argh!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 21 May, 2015, 10:59:37 PM
Fucking hell. If I'd known all this great stuff was coming out October last year I'd never have blown all my savings on something as frivolous as a house. Being skint sucks!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 22 May, 2015, 01:02:56 AM


I just ordered the cheaper one since I have the DVD and key ring* already. I'm tempted by the steelbook but as it seems to be just a change of cover...

Stoked for the badge! Means I'll have one of each type!

QuoteStill not arrived, I'm fuming!

Release date is 26th June... Don't worry chaps, it will fly by...

... oh. Wait. That's the cheaper version (http://www.zavvi.com/zbox/cops-zbox-june/11122582.html) that I'm getting. The other is coming out 6th Feb 2017 (http://www.zavvi.com/zbox/cops-zbox/-dredd-steelbook-june/11122562.html)? Surely they mean 2016?

*Okay it's not exactly the same key chain but close enough.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 23 May, 2015, 12:45:26 AM
Saw the sequel tonight and it's miles better than the original.

It's set in the Cursed Earth and doesn't feature Dredd but is about a Judge who took the long walk because of an in judicial liaison, but his child had been killed and he had abandoned the law until he gets caught up with some women escaping from a mutant warlord.

Strong female characters like Dredd.

Like the original,it's low tech. There are no robots or flying cars just beefed up contemporary vehicles.

I think this sequel also shows that the 18 certificate was a mistake. It is a 15 but still manages to be violent and packed with cool action (and not a bit of cliché bullet time in sight).

Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 May, 2015, 01:08:27 AM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 23 May, 2015, 12:45:26 AM
I think this sequel also shows that the 18 certificate was a mistake. It is a 15 but still manages to be violent and packed with cool action (and not a bit of cliché bullet time in sight).

Highly recommended.


Both were R-rated in the US.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 23 May, 2015, 01:32:10 AM
Well there's an R where you come home going "how was that even possible?" and an R where you come home going "that was gross. They skinned people alive".

One will generate better word of mouth than the other.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 May, 2015, 01:52:22 AM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 23 May, 2015, 01:32:10 AM
Well there's an R where you come home going "how was that even possible?" and an R where you come home going "that was gross. They skinned people alive".

One will generate better word of mouth than the other.


Rather than any rating, the $200 million budget takes a lot of the cred for "how was that even possible?".

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 23 May, 2015, 08:18:21 AM
Oh indeed. I know there are lots of factors at play.

I thought John Wick also managed to make the violence look cool and different and without an "ick" factor. (Though that may also have had a $200m budget).

Anyway if I am ever stupid enough to buy a Euromillions lottery ticket and then lucky enough to win it on a £300m rollover week*, then this is the sort of template I would use for the third sequel.

* Of course not. Waste it on a movie? I would make sure my family were financially Ok first and then set up some ongoing charity projects including funding for addictions to gambling. Then maybe buy a full set of Prog, Megs and Case Files.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 24 May, 2015, 12:53:52 PM
Only $20,million Budget for John Wick according to Box Office Mojo and it was an R rating like Dredd. Looks like it made it's money back so we might see more JW in the future. Must watch this at some point.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=johnwick.htm
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 24 May, 2015, 03:20:06 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 24 May, 2015, 12:53:52 PM
Only $20,million Budget for John Wick according to Box Office Mojo and it was an R rating like Dredd. Looks like it made it's money back so we might see more JW in the future. Must watch this at some point.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=johnwick.htm

A sequel has already been announced.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 24 May, 2015, 05:21:14 PM
A Dredd sequel!  I knew it would happen!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: hazy efc on 24 May, 2015, 08:59:00 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 24 May, 2015, 05:21:14 PM
A Dredd sequel!  I knew it would happen!
Finally it's about bloody time, I also heard a sequel to waterworld had been green lit. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dredd Head on 25 May, 2015, 08:29:46 AM
Dredd sequel, Yes please I could play a part in 2012 with how many times I've seen it. Great news though can't wait
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 25 May, 2015, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: Dredd Head on 25 May, 2015, 08:29:46 AM
Great news though can't wait

Just checking: you know that this is something of a running joke and there's there's no Dredd sequel, right?

Cheers


Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fungus on 25 May, 2015, 11:18:34 AM
2.  Never explain a joke.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 25 May, 2015, 11:24:25 AM
Explaining jokes is an automatic fail
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dredd Head on 25 May, 2015, 12:11:11 PM
i didn't know jim :lol: thanks for letting me know :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 June, 2015, 08:17:18 PM
The Mondo Dredd Steelbook has arrived from Canada, just a wee bit too late to get Jock to sign it at Lawgiver :'( Still, it's a pretty damn good package and wasn't too expensive with the free p&p
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 06 June, 2015, 11:16:38 AM
Just saw that anyone buying the Zbox in June has a chance to win one of the PR Dredd helmets (plus other copper-y related box sets and stuff)

https://www.facebook.com/PlanetReplicas?fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/PlanetReplicas?fref=nf)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 06 June, 2015, 03:22:11 PM
I'm in with a chance then :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 10 June, 2015, 06:44:59 PM
Had a very odd experience at my local comic shop today. I overheard someone asking one of the employees which Judge Dredd film he thought was worse.

This guy said he thought Dredd was worse than that other film. I didn't know whether to pass out or punch him.

I asked him why he thought the new Dredd was worse and all he could say wasn't like he thought it would be.

What do you say to that? I just told him that I, and others, felt this Dredd film was a very close representation of Dredd and that he should give it another chance.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 10 June, 2015, 06:50:33 PM
definitely a punch first and ask questions later scenario  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 June, 2015, 08:05:44 PM
Quote from: von Boom on 10 June, 2015, 06:44:59 PM
Had a very odd experience at my local comic shop today. I overheard someone asking one of the employees which Judge Dredd film he thought was worse.

This guy said he thought Dredd was worse than that other film. I didn't know whether to pass out or punch him.

I asked him why he thought the new Dredd was worse and all he could say wasn't like he thought it would be.

What do you say to that? I just told him that I, and others, felt this Dredd film was a very close representation of Dredd and that he should give it another chance.

Sounds like his brain has been effected by reading too much Marvel and DC tosh!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 June, 2015, 08:08:28 PM
My attempt to single-handedly bankroll a new Dredd movie!   :lol:

http://www.hidefninja.com/community/threads/ashisarobots-dredd-collection.65713/
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 11 June, 2015, 12:07:14 AM
Nice! I like the Scandie steelbook design with the teaser poster image, saw that somewhere else recently. The Mondo is king though, hopefully mine will arrive soon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 11 June, 2015, 12:10:45 AM
Quote from: von Boom on 10 June, 2015, 06:44:59 PM
Had a very odd experience at my local comic shop today. I overheard someone asking one of the employees which Judge Dredd film he thought was worse.

This guy said he thought Dredd was worse than that other film. I didn't know whether to pass out or punch him.

I asked him why he thought the new Dredd was worse and all he could say wasn't like he thought it would be.

What do you say to that? I just told him that I, and others, felt this Dredd film was a very close representation of Dredd and that he should give it another chance.

For future reference, this is an argument you (or anyone else) can instantly win with two words: "Rob Schneider".
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Woolly on 11 June, 2015, 06:12:47 PM
Quote from: radiator on 11 June, 2015, 12:10:45 AM
Quote from: von Boom on 10 June, 2015, 06:44:59 PM
Had a very odd experience at my local comic shop today. I overheard someone asking one of the employees which Judge Dredd film he thought was worse.

This guy said he thought Dredd was worse than that other film. I didn't know whether to pass out or punch him.

I asked him why he thought the new Dredd was worse and all he could say wasn't like he thought it would be.

What do you say to that? I just told him that I, and others, felt this Dredd film was a very close representation of Dredd and that he should give it another chance.

For future reference, this is an argument you (or anyone else) can instantly win with two words: "Rob Schneider".

One word - 'Codpiece'.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Link Prime on 25 June, 2015, 11:18:45 AM
Just goat an email from Zavvi- ZBox is on its way.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 25 June, 2015, 11:38:34 AM
Quote from: Link Prime on 25 June, 2015, 11:18:45 AM
Just goat an email from Zavvi- ZBox is on its way.  :thumbsup:

Keeping my fingers crossed I'll be the lucky winner of the MEGA Zbox - one customer will receive a special box which includes extra goodies such as a Planet Replicas Dredd helmet.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 25 June, 2015, 11:55:32 AM
This may have been posted...but, looks like you can count Jon Stewart a fan...'my favourite Judge since Dredd...'  http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/jon-stewart-roasts-southerners-clinging-to-their-archaic-symbol-of-racist-insurrection/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 26 June, 2015, 10:12:06 PM
My Zbox arrived! The Dredd badge alone is worth more than the £19.99 price (the only reason I bought it!), so everything else is just gravy:

(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd359/anaconda888/IMG_0242_zpsk6epmsww.jpg)

So, in addition to the badge (in a nice bag with a groovy little plastic stand for it), it had:

:-* 1894 Thought Police T-shirt (nice!)
:-* Mini-megaphone (save for next demo I go on)
:-* Lego police-bike (cool, I'll be building that)
:-* Robocop keyring (don't use keyrings, but okay)
:-* Candy whistle (cheap confectionery)
:-* Dredd underbelly one-shot comic ;nuff said
:-* Zbox magazine (surprisingly good fun - novelty lists of Top 10 'bad cops'; article about Dredd aging in real time, article on Planet Replicas (including pics of some judges we all know and love)

The box was nice in itself - Dirty Harry graphics and a Hot Fuzz quote.

So all in all, definitely worth it 'cos I was considering paying more than that for the badge, but I wouldn't subscribe because if I wasn't into Dredd, the rest is a bit tat-tastic
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 26 June, 2015, 10:33:03 PM
Yeah, mine arrived today too. I went for the cheaper one.

It had less items than I hoped..*. but then I opened that velvet pouch... and it was all worthwhile. Such a solid lovely thing. Looks great on the stand (which took me a while to work out).

I liked the badge that came with the Mega Collection but in terms of quality, this is even better.
I'll admit to liking the robocop key ring and gettin a kick out of the lego item although I've yet to open it.

The outer picture shows a guy oh a helicopter, but I understant what's inside might be different... oh go on I'll take a look...


... and a piece fell out somewhere. Grrr. Okay, this one is the copter. Still, that's cool.

* Dear me what an ungrateful sod I come across there. It really is excellent value. Would be if it was just the badge and T-Shirt alone...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 26 June, 2015, 10:38:47 PM
I didn't know there was a cheaper one - damn!

Yeah, the stand took me a few minutes to figure out too!  :lol:

And you're right, it;'s not a bike but some kind of one-man helicopter/sea-plane thingy!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 26 June, 2015, 11:42:24 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 26 June, 2015, 10:38:47 PM
I didn't know there was a cheaper one - damn!

Judging by your haul, you went for the 20 one, same as me. I meant this one, rather than the one with the Dredd Blu ray and badge key-ring.

I did notice that Zavvi sent me a zbox discount code by email, but I'd already bought it for the full price (which is still a good deal).

QuoteAnd you're right, it;'s not a bike but some kind of one-man helicopter/sea-plane thingy!

Just finished putting it together. It was fun... but the larger blades look unfinished to me. That's how it looks on the box, but two more blades would look better, I think.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 26 June, 2015, 11:45:10 PM
From reading my order confirmation, the people who bought the more expensive one will be waiting on the other parcel with the disc and keyring in it, to arrive at some time in the future!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 26 June, 2015, 11:53:07 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 26 June, 2015, 11:45:10 PM
From reading my order confirmation, the people who bought the more expensive one will be waiting on the other parcel with the disc and keyring in it, to arrive at some time in the future!

Is that you?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 27 June, 2015, 12:33:31 AM
Quote from: Mardroid on 26 June, 2015, 11:42:24 PM
QuoteAnd you're right, it;'s not a bike but some kind of one-man helicopter/sea-plane thingy!

Just finished putting it together. It was fun... but the larger blades look unfinished to me. That's how it looks on the box, but two more blades would look better, I think.

et voila:
(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd359/anaconda888/IMG_0244_zpsazs22bxk.jpg)

Ive gotta say, putting together a Lego model from step-by-step instructions (a first for me) is infinitely less fun than just building stuff from your imagination + Lego bricks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 27 June, 2015, 10:23:34 AM
Yes building lego bombs is always more fun! Your Police Helicopter is brutal.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PlanetReplicas on 27 June, 2015, 10:29:07 AM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 26 June, 2015, 10:12:06 PM
My Zbox arrived! The Dredd badge alone is worth more than the £19.99 price (the only reason I bought it!), so everything else is just gravy:

(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd359/anaconda888/IMG_0242_zpsk6epmsww.jpg)

So, in addition to the badge (in a nice bag with a groovy little plastic stand for it), it had:

:-* 1894 Thought Police T-shirt (nice!)
:-* Mini-megaphone (save for next demo I go on)
:-* Lego police-bike (cool, I'll be building that)
:-* Robocop keyring (don't use keyrings, but okay)
:-* Candy whistle (cheap confectionery)
:-* Dredd underbelly one-shot comic ;nuff said
:-* Zbox magazine (surprisingly good fun - novelty lists of Top 10 'bad cops'; article about Dredd aging in real time, article on Planet Replicas (including pics of some judges we all know and love)

The box was nice in itself - Dirty Harry graphics and a Hot Fuzz quote.

So all in all, definitely worth it 'cos I was considering paying more than that for the badge, but I wouldn't subscribe because if I wasn't into Dredd, the rest is a bit tat-tastic

Very chuffed to hear- quoting the whole thread just so people can see !
A quick check on Twitter and its looking like the Dredd badge has gone down a storm, so its looking like a big win for Zavvi, 2000AD an PR ;-)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 June, 2015, 06:10:19 PM



What If 'Judge Dredd's' Biggest Problem Was Judge Dredd? (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/what-judge-dredds-biggest-problem-805396)




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 June, 2015, 01:34:12 PM
Yeah I think American audiences, reared on a general mistrust of governments would hardly ever take a fascistic Law enforcer to their hearts. That's why Stallone's version opted for the oldie ' framed by evil/corrupt  authority ' trope to try and humanize Dredd's gestapo inclinations. Urban's Dredd also had corruption from the system, the street Judges Ma Ma hired to act as gunslingers when her own anti Judicial  efforts met with unhappy and usually fatal results for Clan members.

Well the article isn't telling us anything we haven't discussed here already but it confirms my suspicions that the very core of Dredds world; the violent Lawman and the brutal Justice Department are an anathema to many Americans. Belief in Liberty is a central part of American culture and perhaps Judge Dredd is just to dark a vision of the USA for widespread popular appeal. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 June, 2015, 01:56:48 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 June, 2015, 01:34:12 PMWell the article isn't telling us anything we haven't discussed here already but it confirms my suspicions that the very core of Dredds world; the violent Lawman and the brutal Justice Department are an anathema to many Americans. Belief in Liberty is a central part of American culture and perhaps Judge Dredd is just to dark a vision of the USA for widespread popular appeal.


On the contrary, the general thrust of article is the opposite of that notion:



But to return to the earlier question: does this mean that the failure of the 1995 Judge Dredd movie was down to the source material, and not the movie itself? Ultimately, no; even if the movie had gone for just one aspect of the comic, it could have been a successful movie (Come on; "merciless lawman of the future" is a great hook for a movie, even without everything else that Dredd is as a comic series). The movie failed because of the quality of the movie, in the end.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 June, 2015, 02:33:34 PM
I disagree but I always see the worst in things! Though the Hollywood reporter says the 1995 film was pretty flat the general tone of the article proposed that the Dredd Universe was too complicated to be reduced for for easy mass consumption. Judge Dredd has had three decades worth of material and that's a lot of stuff to juggle with. I think at some point there might be another Dredd film but not until there's another leap in the cost of reducing Filmmaking and CGI to more manageable levels. $70-100 million dollars is the average for Action movies these days. No way is any studio going to put up the money for another Dredd Film but perhaps TV might offer a lifeline though not for a while.   

The Punisher Movies were all pretty lame box office wise but  the Punisher character is to return in DareDevil on Netflix. Different Universe etc but if there's a place for a violent, psychotic vigilante on TV surely there might be space for a violent, future Cop as well. I still think that the world of JD is too bleak a view of the future for American consumers and it will always be a niche enterprise. If teaming up with Batman didn't do it for Judge Dredd by introducing him to a bigger market then there's little that will. If people don't wanna buy they don't wanna buy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 28 June, 2015, 03:26:13 PM
It has been said before, a ministeries would better explain the Dreddverse. Though the 2012 film wasn't a bad stab. Z
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 June, 2015, 03:32:27 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 June, 2015, 02:33:34 PM
I disagree but I always see the worst in things! Though the Hollywood reporter says the 1995 film was pretty flat the general tone of the article proposed that the Dredd Universe was too complicated to be reduced for for easy mass consumption. Judge Dredd has had three decades worth of material and that's a lot of stuff to juggle with.

But there's no need to juggle it all and distill it into one film. I see it more as a fault in translation by the translators rather than the requirement to reduce 38 years of storylines into 90 minutes. Is a Dredd film really any more complicated an adaptation than a literary adaptation like L.A. Confidential? It's certainly not as mammoth a task as a Lord of the Rings or Game of Thrones in terms of the need for a continuing story across multiple episodes. They've been spoiled for choice in the material they could adapt or expand upon for adaptation but what the 1995 Dredd was faced with was a wall erected by the producers/writers themselves: they didn't want to make a Judge Dredd film and they spent too much doing it.

QuoteI think at some point there might be another Dredd film but not until there's another leap in the cost of reducing Filmmaking and CGI to more manageable levels. $70-100 million dollars is the average for Action movies these days. No way is any studio going to put up the money for another Dredd Film but perhaps TV might offer a lifeline though not for a while.


That $70-100 million is an increase from what it previously was. Big budget film-making of the type Dredd requires to be fully represented on-screen is going in the opposite direction: it's getting more expensive. What has changed is that more people can afford or have access to the basic tools but it still takes time and talent to produce results no matter the advancement of the tools. Unless it were a really cheap production that looked cheap.

QuoteThe Punisher Movies were all pretty lame box office wise but  the Punisher character is to return in DareDevil on Netflix. Different Universe etc but if there's a place for a violent, psychotic vigilante on TV surely there might be space for a violent, future Cop as well. I still think that the world of JD is too bleak a view of the future for American consumers and it will always be a niche enterprise. If teaming up with Batman didn't do it for Judge Dredd by introducing him to a bigger market then there's little that will. If people don't wanna buy they don't wanna buy.


I don't tend to equate the comic market with the TV or film world and it's a miracle for any comic outside of known superheroes to sell in the numbers a Batman comic does these days.

Some of the bleakest visions of recent times have come from US TV series and films but if you can entertain people well enough they'll accept anything.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 June, 2015, 04:02:38 PM
I want a Dredd Movie or series of 2000AD Films as badly as anyone else on this board. How to achieve that in light of recent events I really don't know. Dredd was a great Film that I expected to have a sequel but no go there and I'm floundering for an explanation on why that is. How can Ted 2 be commisioned and a Dredd sequel not? It's so unfair!

How to present a new Judge Dredd or Rogue Trooper Movie? Dilemma No1! In a way the HR article has given me a bit of hope. At least they're still talking about it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 28 June, 2015, 05:06:23 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 June, 2015, 04:02:38 PM
Dredd was a great Film that I expected to have a sequel but no go there and I'm floundering for an explanation on why that is.

The simple fact is that not enough people went to see it and it didn't make any money.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 June, 2015, 05:30:39 PM
Yeah that but why didn't they go and see it? Mostly good reviews, positive vibe so why did f***ing Ted do better?  That's the issue I can't quite get around.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 June, 2015, 06:30:04 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 June, 2015, 05:30:39 PM
Yeah that but why didn't they go and see it? Mostly good reviews, positive vibe so why did f***ing Ted do better?  That's the issue I can't quite get around.

Lack of interest, not a studio tentpole film with big set-pieces, no identifiable stars and the biggest elephant in the room: a maligned $90 million feature-length advertisment with the title Judge Dredd that was the only thing the general public knew of the brand for 17 years.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 June, 2015, 06:34:34 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 June, 2015, 05:30:39 PM
why did f***ing Ted do better?


TED was funny and had a talking teddy bear; funny goes a long way.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 28 June, 2015, 07:02:38 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 June, 2015, 05:30:39 PM
why did f***ing Ted do better?

It was a major studio feature and had 10s of millions of dollars thrown at promotion as a result, it was the first feature film by one of the biggest names in US comedy, and starred two major Hollywood actors. It might not be your idea of a good movie but it was a crowd pleaser and it did well as a result. Hence the sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 June, 2015, 11:27:41 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 28 June, 2015, 07:02:38 PM
Hence the sequel.

WHEN?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stu101 on 28 June, 2015, 11:57:40 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 June, 2015, 11:27:41 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 28 June, 2015, 07:02:38 PM
Hence the sequel.

WHEN?

I think about now CF

Ted 2 (2015)
R  |  115 min  |  Comedy  |  26 June 2015 (USA)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 29 June, 2015, 12:09:42 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 June, 2015, 06:34:34 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 June, 2015, 05:30:39 PM
why did f***ing Ted do better?


TED was funny
Debatable.

I personally thought it was shite.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 June, 2015, 01:18:04 AM
Quote from: Rusty on 29 June, 2015, 12:09:42 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 June, 2015, 06:34:34 PM
TED was funny
Debatable.

I personally thought it was shite.


Debate doesn't matter; over half a billion dollars at the box-office proves it worked as a comedy the general audience liked.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 29 June, 2015, 08:59:56 AM
Cos some people are idiot!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 29 June, 2015, 10:10:12 AM
Quote from: Stu101 on 28 June, 2015, 11:57:40 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 June, 2015, 11:27:41 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 28 June, 2015, 07:02:38 PM
Hence the sequel.

WHEN?

I think about now CF

Ted 2 (2015)
R  |  115 min  |  Comedy  |  26 June 2015 (USA)

Boom.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 29 June, 2015, 06:29:26 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 June, 2015, 01:18:04 AM
Quote from: Rusty on 29 June, 2015, 12:09:42 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 June, 2015, 06:34:34 PM
TED was funny
Debatable.

I personally thought it was shite.


Debate doesn't matter; over half a billion dollars at the box-office proves it worked as a comedy the general audience liked.
That says a lot for the general audiences. We all know they love a turd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 29 June, 2015, 07:46:23 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 29 June, 2015, 10:10:12 AM
Quote from: Stu101 on 28 June, 2015, 11:57:40 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 June, 2015, 11:27:41 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 28 June, 2015, 07:02:38 PM
Hence the sequel.

WHEN?

I think about now CF

Ted 2 (2015)
R  |  115 min  |  Comedy  |  26 June 2015 (USA)

Boom.

Was that the Hi-Ex?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 July, 2015, 05:42:59 PM
Dredd U.K steelbook, down to £15.99!

http://www.thehut.com/blu-ray/dredd-3d-includes-2d-version-zavvi-exclusive-limited-edition-steelbook-blu-ray/11090757.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 July, 2015, 05:46:12 PM
This tells me that it's not selling!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 July, 2015, 05:50:36 PM
Not sure CF!
It's sold out at Zavvi as an individual purchase, it might be copies from unsold copies allocated to ZBoxes!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 July, 2015, 07:15:45 PM



It often seems like ZAVVI have a habit of automatically marking their individual steelbooks as sold-out to make it look like there's more demand; in this case it looks like they're forcing customers to buy the more expensive ZBOX to get the steelbook.

http://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/dredd-3d-includes-2d-version-zavvi-exclusive-limited-edition-steelbook-blu-ray/11090757.html?affil=awin&utm_source=AWin-85386&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=AffiliateWin

http://www.zavvi.com/zbox/cops-zbox/-dredd-steelbook-june/11122562.html?affil=awin&utm_source=AWin-85386&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=AffiliateWin

The other 3 steelbooks released have better quality cover art so I suppose that's what customers are buying or have all ready bought.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 06 July, 2015, 11:06:44 AM
Robert Peston mentions the futures toughest Lawman in grim piece about Greece. 2nd to bottom paragraph. Dredd invades the culture!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33405583
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 06 July, 2015, 05:14:14 PM
Nice context too re stomping on Democracy.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 06 July, 2015, 05:44:10 PM
Yep. Z
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 07 July, 2015, 03:40:00 PM
Now you can buy the Dredd key-chain by itself from zavvi, for £9.99.

I still think the sets didn't get the orders they required, hence they're breaking the disc and key-chain ones up and selling the collectible bit off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: amines2058 on 08 July, 2015, 06:57:47 AM
May have inadvertently created a new thread for this elsewhere but Zavvi are also selling 40 x limited edition Trevor Hairsines prints for £9.99 each. Not sure if these were also part of the steelbook??
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2015, 07:12:31 AM
I just read that :lol:

No, the prints weren't part of the goodies. This is a separate, one off.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 July, 2015, 08:42:39 AM
that sounds good :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2015, 09:07:40 AM
So you'll be buying these then Goaty :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 08 July, 2015, 09:17:29 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2015, 09:07:40 AM
So you'll be buying these then Goaty :thumbsup:
:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 July, 2015, 10:39:30 AM
Only if I get my own cellar!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2015, 10:45:24 AM
That's no excuse, don't you want to show your support for all things Dredd!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 July, 2015, 07:31:19 PM
Only tentatively related.

Quite impressed with what this new camera can do.

It can shoot high speed video (up to 1000fps), which I believe is the speed the PhantomFlex they were using for slomo.

https://vimeo.com/132989951 (https://vimeo.com/132989951)

OK, it's not quite HD at the higher frame rates, but still amazing how things filter down to the consumer level (talking around 1K) so quickly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 13 July, 2015, 08:13:04 PM
You'd better buy one and make Dredd 2! Or Kill Ted the angry Dredd fans revenge film. Another
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 July, 2015, 09:52:29 PM
If I buy one, it would end being the 'In the Bath' story, in slow motion, with Commando Forces in the Dredd role, wearing a helmet. Nobody wants that.

I think they're more than happy with their endless Dredd memes about other films being greenlit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 20 July, 2015, 12:16:16 AM
Just watched DREDD for only the second time. The stuff that annoyed me at the time doesn't bother me quite as much now but the stuff I liked I REALLY like.

I don't think I've ever heard Eastwood's voice (and still don't) when reading the strip (if anyone, maybe Lee Marvin) yet Urban's resigned indifference is absolutely perfect. "Yeah."

Dredd's size. In comparison, say, to Judges Chan and Lex. He's fucking able despite them being bigger and all the more cool for it.

The violence. Against women, especially. The sexual stuff does what it needs to without being exploitative and Ma-Ma's demise is only grandiose because she's the villain.
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 20 July, 2015, 08:57:44 AM
Is it just me who's getting pissed off with the 'Make a Dredd Sequel' page. A great campaign, well run, now just being used to pimp another shoddy film blog. Should I feel it's ok for them to leverage the 100k+ fans generated by the campaign to get hits on their new site, or is it right to feel it's disingenuous and unfair on rebellion and the people who put their weight behind spreading the good word. I could just unfollow the page I know but that doesn't feel right. Till they change the name of it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 July, 2015, 09:41:35 AM
What else do you expect them to do?

There's no sequel news, and not likely to be either.


Unless you want 'Dredd unhappy about some sequel getting made' memes for a good while,

or 'why don't you kickstart it'

or 'fuck hollywood' until hell freezes over.

So they could either shutter the page, post news about comic stuff - which a bunch of the people on there don't care about either.

Seems like the intention is to try to engage with the fanbase of R-rated movies and foster an environment where they don't automatically tank at the box office, which would be more amenable to a sequel.
Title: Re: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DaveGYNWA on 20 July, 2015, 12:06:14 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 20 July, 2015, 08:57:44 AM
Is it just me who's getting pissed off with the 'Make a Dredd Sequel' page. A great campaign, well run, now just being used to pimp another shoddy film blog. Should I feel it's ok for them to leverage the 100k+ fans generated by the campaign to get hits on their new site, or is it right to feel it's disingenuous and unfair on rebellion and the people who put their weight behind spreading the good word. I could just unfollow the page I know but that doesn't feel right. Till they change the name of it.

I still follow the page, but have just turned off notifications.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 28 July, 2015, 04:34:01 PM
Dredd is screening again on Film 4 at 22:40 on 01/08/15!!!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 July, 2015, 05:41:11 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 28 July, 2015, 04:34:01 PM
Dredd is screening again on Film 4 at 22:40 on 01/08/15!!!!!

Beer,crisps, Dredd!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SpongeJosh on 28 July, 2015, 07:11:16 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 28 July, 2015, 04:34:01 PM
Dredd is screening again on Film 4 at 22:40 on 01/08/15!!!!!

Good excuse to leave a wedding reception early  :thumbsup:



(Not my own wedding btw!)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zenith 666 on 28 July, 2015, 10:59:59 PM
Going out Saturday night so because if I watch only a glimpse of Dredd I'll sit through all off it again.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 28 July, 2015, 11:22:06 PM
Citizens of 2000AD on-line forum: Lesbian Seagull is not the law. Tordelback is the Law.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 29 July, 2015, 12:56:41 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 28 July, 2015, 04:34:01 PM
Dredd is screening again on Film 4 at 22:40 on 01/08/15!!!!!

Perfect timing to watch in the pub with the Dredd Screening Drinking Club, after the opening of the Judgement in Cardiff exhibition that day!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 30 July, 2015, 03:06:36 PM
Adi Shankars new project.

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/07/29/powerrangers-fan-film-producer-announces-dark-superhero-television-show/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 30 July, 2015, 03:11:00 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 30 July, 2015, 03:06:36 PM
Adi Shankars new project.

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/07/29/powerrangers-fan-film-producer-announces-dark-superhero-television-show/

It's great that he's still helping people get exposure...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 03 August, 2015, 04:02:02 PM
""Gods and Secrets" won't be Shankar's first foray into superhero filmmaking, as he's delivered a series of well-received short films that include "The Punisher: Dirty Laundry," "Venom: Truth in Journalism" and "Judge Dredd: Superfiend."

Did anyone actually make it to the end of that thing who can say they received it well?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 03 August, 2015, 04:26:13 PM
I havent made it to the start of it yet. Should I bother?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Theblazeuk on 03 August, 2015, 05:25:52 PM
I enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 03 August, 2015, 05:26:36 PM
I didn't even make it to the end of that intro clip with the stupid eye make-up. It is on my list of things to watch at some point, along with Cursed Edge.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 August, 2015, 06:01:03 PM
Mote than quarter of million viewers watch Dredd on FilmFour last Sat!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 August, 2015, 06:17:59 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 03 August, 2015, 06:01:03 PM
Mote than quarter of million viewers watch Dredd on FilmFour last Sat!

That sounds pretty good, how does that compare to other Film 4 premieres I wonder.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 August, 2015, 06:25:54 PM
I didn't watch it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 August, 2015, 07:01:27 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 August, 2015, 06:25:54 PM
I didn't watch it!

:o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 03 August, 2015, 07:57:20 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 03 August, 2015, 07:01:27 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 August, 2015, 06:25:54 PM
I didn't watch it!

:o

I think he's seen it
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 04 August, 2015, 07:46:30 PM
A "civilian" work colleague caught this on Saturday night and thought it was really good. Wondered if there were plans for a sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 04 August, 2015, 09:28:25 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 04 August, 2015, 07:46:30 PM
A "civilian" work colleague caught this on Saturday night and thought it was really good. Wondered if there were plans for a sequel.

Hope you told him to take a number and get in line!!   :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 06 August, 2015, 11:50:13 AM
Zavvi steelbooks have been dispatched by the look of it
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SIP on 07 August, 2015, 04:39:48 PM
Got my steelbook through "the hut. Com"......no keyring as listed. Anyone else buy through here?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 07 August, 2015, 04:54:06 PM
Mine arrived today. No keyring. I've opened a complaint with Zavvi .. they seem to think it should have been in the box
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SIP on 07 August, 2015, 07:30:39 PM
I have just sent a query to thehut.com asking them where the keychain is. As you are having the same issue I suspect that these have not been dispatched with any of the steel books.

Will let you know what happens.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 08 August, 2015, 01:47:08 PM
A quick look on twitter suggests you're not alone.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 09 August, 2015, 08:13:50 PM
Planet Replicas have tweeted that they've been told by Zavvi that the keychains are being sent separately.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SIP on 09 August, 2015, 09:07:40 PM
Interesting.  Hopefully "thehut.com" will come back with that answer tomorrow.  Thanks for the info Steve.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 09 August, 2015, 11:30:03 PM
No worries, hope it gets sorted soon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 10 August, 2015, 01:41:27 PM
I used to be gutted about the lack of sequel for a critically praised Dredd film which didn't do very well at the box office, but today I'm just glad I'm not a Fantastic Four fan.

$200 million down the crapper.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 August, 2015, 01:56:57 PM
what the hell they spend $200 millions on??
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 10 August, 2015, 02:18:02 PM
I'm not sure if it's fair to count distribution but that and marketing apparently cost $80 million, so almost twice as much as Dredd's production budget. Then you have a tenner spent on Dr Doom and probably $50 million on that one set they near enough shot the entire film in. And no doubt there were misc items like glass hammers for 9k a pop.

Kinda funny that this entry hasn't been removed from the wiki page yet..

"A sequel is scheduled for release on June 9, 2017 in 3D.[93]"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2015, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: Stan on 10 August, 2015, 02:18:02 PM
Kinda funny that this entry hasn't been removed from the wiki page yet..

"A sequel is scheduled for release on June 9, 2017 in 3D.[93]"

The studio won't change that mantra until it's out of cinemas; they still have to pretend they're invested in this iteration of F4 and that people should see the film.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 August, 2015, 02:55:04 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2015, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: Stan on 10 August, 2015, 02:18:02 PM
Kinda funny that this entry hasn't been removed from the wiki page yet..

"A sequel is scheduled for release on June 9, 2017 in 3D.[93]"

The studio won't change that mantra until it's out of cinemas; they still have to pretend they're invested in this iteration of F4 and that people should see the film.

That was same with Amazing Spider-Man 2 when they planned a sequel to it before it out at cinemas... wonder what happens to that(!)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 10 August, 2015, 08:39:21 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2015, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: Stan on 10 August, 2015, 02:18:02 PM
Kinda funny that this entry hasn't been removed from the wiki page yet..

"A sequel is scheduled for release on June 9, 2017 in 3D.[93]"

The studio won't change that mantra until it's out of cinemas; they still have to pretend they're invested in this iteration of F4 and that people should see the film.

Yeah, good point. I have a hard time believing there won't be a deal at some point though. The only way I can see people taking a Fantastic Four film seriously (by Fox) is if they call it X-Men and have lots of X-Men in it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2015, 09:09:49 PM
Quote from: Stan on 10 August, 2015, 08:39:21 PMThe only way I can see people taking a Fantastic Four film seriously (by Fox) is if they call it X-Men and have lots of X-Men in it.

I doubt they can truly do this crossover business between F4 and the X-Verse - the contracts were drawn-up several years apart at a time when big budget crossovers didn't happen, and I would presume that unless it states in each contract that one property can include characters from the other, it probably can't happen without Marvel's permission. Fox have always been wishy-washy on the situation with vague statements like how they could see how it could happen 'story-wise' but Zak Penn has said it can't be done and Simon Kinberg that they're parallel universes.

Add to that fact the only way Fox can retain the rights is to make a standalone Fantastic 4 film every 7 years and it puts Fox in a terrible situation where the only way they could rescue the brand for themselves is to bring in a huge name like James Cameron to reboot it as a big-budget spectacle piece.

Or just sell it back early to Marvel/trade it for X-Men TV rights.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 11 August, 2015, 05:03:36 AM
http://comicbook.com/2015/08/11/fox-reportedly-moving-forward-with-fantastic-four-2-despite-box-/

Jeebus, I wish the people behind DREDD was this determined for a sequel. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 August, 2015, 11:10:02 AM
Was going for a gritty take on F4 really that good an idea? The Punisher is a gritty Marvel character but the Fantastic 4 was never like that. The original comics I understand had the F4 falling out and even occasionally betraying each other and was considered groundbreaking for it's time but now they strike me as a sort of odd Nuclear family. Perhaps the Invisibles as one commentator said is best F4 film we've had made so far.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Link Prime on 11 August, 2015, 11:18:08 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2015, 09:09:49 PM
I doubt they can truly do this crossover business between F4 and the X-Verse

This might be the closest we'll get; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Rd8x4z-e0
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 13 August, 2015, 12:41:03 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2015, 09:09:49 PM
Quote from: Stan on 10 August, 2015, 08:39:21 PMThe only way I can see people taking a Fantastic Four film seriously (by Fox) is if they call it X-Men and have lots of X-Men in it.

I doubt they can truly do this crossover business between F4 and the X-Verse - the contracts were drawn-up several years apart at a time when big budget crossovers didn't happen, and I would presume that unless it states in each contract that one property can include characters from the other, it probably can't happen without Marvel's permission. Fox have always been wishy-washy on the situation with vague statements like how they could see how it could happen 'story-wise' but Zak Penn has said it can't be done and Simon Kinberg that they're parallel universes.

Add to that fact the only way Fox can retain the rights is to make a standalone Fantastic 4 film every 7 years and it puts Fox in a terrible situation where the only way they could rescue the brand for themselves is to bring in a huge name like James Cameron to reboot it as a big-budget spectacle piece.

Or just sell it back early to Marvel/trade it for X-Men TV rights.

I've seen a few people suggest that and I hope it's true. Some things are better left dead.

And I don't see Fox losing X-Men any time this century (even without Hugh Jackman) so Marvel may as well just bite the bullet and make the deal.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 13 August, 2015, 06:23:30 PM
I have zero interest in the FF film itself, but the fallout around it continues to be fascinating. Sounds like the whole project was misconceived from the word go. It really highlights the inherent dangers with this current trend of handing these enormous productions to inexperienced young directors.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fantastic-four-blame-game-fox-814764 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fantastic-four-blame-game-fox-814764)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 13 August, 2015, 07:48:27 PM
but it's not a terrible movie, just a bit ... dull. I don't think it deserves the panning it's getting - when nerds scent blood, there's no mercy!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 August, 2015, 01:12:58 AM

Quote from: Dandontdare on 13 August, 2015, 07:48:27 PM
but it's not a terrible movie, just a bit ... dull.

Yeah; whatever about its odd tone for a film called Fantastic 4, it's like they forgot to make the middle of the story and butt-joined the beginning to the end.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 14 August, 2015, 01:27:08 AM
I haven't seen it, but have heard that Fox drastically slashed the budget on the eve of filming and demanded three key action sequences be cut from the movie. Could be why (as I've heard) the film awkwardly jumps to 'One Year Later...' after the first act...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: A.Cow on 14 August, 2015, 04:32:25 AM
Quote from: radiator on 13 August, 2015, 06:23:30 PMIt really highlights the inherent dangers with this current trend of handing these enormous productions to inexperienced young directors.

Thank goodness they didn't do that kind of thing back in 1995.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 14 August, 2015, 09:24:32 AM
2000AD connection - Mark Millar was hired by Fox as a consultant on their Marvel superhero franchises.  He's definitely talked about his work on the X movies, but seems to have been uncharacteristicallly quiet about what his  input was on the FF.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 August, 2015, 09:41:33 AM
Quote from: GordonR on 14 August, 2015, 09:24:32 AM
2000AD connection - Mark Millar was hired by Fox as a consultant on their Marvel superhero franchises.  He's definitely talked about his work on the X movies, but seems to have been uncharacteristicallly quiet about what his  input was on the FF.

I wonder why.

I hear some things like director chosen the leading actor and studio chosen leading lady. oh dear...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 August, 2015, 10:20:42 AM
I read on some obscure website that Marvel had a formula to these Movies and you couldn't change what you were handed by the script writers. Joss Weedon apparently wanted Wasp to appear in Avengers but was told it had to be Black Widow and consequently had to work without his preference. I guess if you are a studio gambling millions of dollars on a Movie you want a lot of control into what is filmed and edited.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 August, 2015, 10:45:03 AM
Given the butchery and changes that happened with Ant-Man, it's pretty clear the 'Marvel' plan supersedes anything anyone else wants to do. Frankly, though, I'm getting tired with the complexity. It's starting to become effort and remind me of why I gave up with superhero comics. Also, Agents of Fucking SHIELD crossing over with Avengers 2 really pissed me off.

Easily rewritten scene that didn't need to link to Avengers 2
COULSON: Throwaway line of dialogue that tells you the ending of Avengers 2.

THANKS, COULSON! THANKS, MARVEL! It's not like your fucking movie is STILL playing in theatres! It's not like some of us have young babies and wait for rentals. Idiots.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 14 August, 2015, 11:16:35 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 14 August, 2015, 10:45:03 AM
THANKS, COULSON! THANKS, MARVEL! It's not like your fucking movie is STILL playing in theatres! It's not like some of us have young babies and wait for rentals. Idiots.

They're idiots for making sure that their TV series that's a spin-off of the first Avengers film ties into the second Avengers film, and for doing something that doesn't suit your very specific set of personal circumstances?  Really?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 August, 2015, 11:23:41 AM
in this case, yes because they spoilered the ending to a film that was still showing in theatres at the time, and with dialogue that could have been avoided entirely. It was such a throwaway line by Coulson and the series would have lost nothing without it. Smarter scripting could have avoided Coulson basically turning to camera and going: "Man, you REALLY should have watched Avengers 2 by now, so fuck you if you haven't. Here's the ending!"

Of course, if studios actually had the balls to put their content out to digital home services far more rapidly, even at very heavily inflated price-points, this could be avoided. But almost none of them do.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 14 August, 2015, 11:38:21 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 14 August, 2015, 10:45:03 AM
Given the butchery and changes that happened with Ant-Man, it's pretty clear the 'Marvel' plan supersedes anything anyone else wants to do.

And yet Ant-Man is a thoroughly entertaining film, with a distinct tone and set of values that are appropriate to the property, that has been generally well-reviewed and made a decent amount of money. I suspect Marvel are feeling pretty confident with that plan...

Quotein this case, yes because they spoilered the ending to a film that was still showing in theatres at the time, and with dialogue that could have been avoided entirely.

Given that AoS Season 1 spoilered the shit out of Winter Soldier, that shouldn't really have come as a surprise...

Cheers!

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 August, 2015, 11:44:14 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 14 August, 2015, 11:38:21 AM
Given that AoS Season 1 spoilered the shit out of Winter Soldier, that shouldn't really have come as a surprise...

Funny that what saved the AoS series.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 14 August, 2015, 12:01:00 PM
How do you spoiler a film about some heroes trying to stop the end of the world if you know it has two sequels coming up and about a dozen spin-off movies and two spin-off tv shows and counting?  I mean, it's pretty clear the world is still there if a dozen films and a half dozen tv shows are happening in it, I don't see why it would be a surprise if someone points it out.

I do find the hubub around Fantfourstic to be amusing, but I've also heard that what the director did that lines up with his other work is just fine and it looks really nice.  There does seem to be a dedicated effort to create a narrative that lays blame at his feet for what is clearly a studio cock-up (unless I am totally incorrect in my assumption that an action movie needs to have action scenes), and the entertainment media seem more than happy to join in with accounts from "multiple sources close to the movie" keen to point out how a first-timer built like a scarecrow held off a multi-billion dollar studio to personally hold actors down and force them to be shit.
I don't doubt there's blame to be had on multiple fronts, but the way it seems to be being dumped on the one person who probably had the least amount of power in the whole production seems dubious at best.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 14 August, 2015, 12:15:18 PM
Quote from: radiator on 14 August, 2015, 01:27:08 AM
I haven't seen it, but have heard that Fox drastically slashed the budget on the eve of filming and demanded three key action sequences be cut from the movie. Could be why (as I've heard) the film awkwardly jumps to 'One Year Later...' after the first act...

I'm now thinking The Thing's plane jump scene from the trailer was only partially finished. Hence a very small clip of it being shown on a monitor rather than giving us the whole thing. No Fantasticar team play either since that apparently wasn't finished. I really wonder if the savings they made were worth it. Particularly since the re-shoots must've cost a few bob and were completely unimpressive. Though we'll probably never know which version of the film was better.

Quote from: IndigoPrime on 14 August, 2015, 10:45:03 AM
Given the butchery and changes that happened with Ant-Man, it's pretty clear the 'Marvel' plan supersedes anything anyone else wants to do. Frankly, though, I'm getting tired with the complexity. It's starting to become effort and remind me of why I gave up with superhero comics. Also, Agents of Fucking SHIELD crossing over with Avengers 2 really pissed me off.

Easily rewritten scene that didn't need to link to Avengers 2
COULSON: Throwaway line of dialogue that tells you the ending of Avengers 2.

THANKS, COULSON! THANKS, MARVEL! It's not like your fucking movie is STILL playing in theatres! It's not like some of us have young babies and wait for rentals. Idiots.

Yeah, that's really annoying and I'm a fan of SHIELD. As well as Goaty's mention of Winter Soldier, it may have happened during Thor Dark World too (not certain). It's quite jarring and unnecessary and just makes the series feel like it's there to completely serve the movies, which it isn't even obliged to as far as I've read. I can only imagine how mess things are going to get during Infinity War.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 14 August, 2015, 12:32:14 PM
What was this throwaway line that spoiled the ending?

I watched AoS before avengers 2 but didn't consider it spoiled. I remember one line about the Avengers being sent to take down a genetic-engineering base in Norway, but that related to the opening sequence of the film, not the ending.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 August, 2015, 12:43:32 PM
Quote from: Scolaighe Ó'Bear on 14 August, 2015, 12:01:00 PMHow do you spoiler a film about some heroes trying to stop the end of the world if you know it has two sequels coming up and about a dozen spin-off movies and two spin-off tv shows and counting?
By taking about specifics and the journey, not just the obvious destination. It just annoyed me. I like Shield (bar the terrible first third of SE01). I like quite a few of the Marvel films. This just me think sod it, then; I'll just wait until Avengers 2 shows up for free on Netflix now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 August, 2015, 12:44:09 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 14 August, 2015, 12:32:14 PM
What was this throwaway line that spoiled the ending?

It was stuff about [spoiler]how Ultron was defeated[/spoiler] and some other plot points dotted about. All easily avoidable without affecting the story.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 14 August, 2015, 01:23:49 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 14 August, 2015, 12:44:09 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 14 August, 2015, 12:32:14 PM
What was this throwaway line that spoiled the ending?

It was stuff about [spoiler]how Ultron was defeated[/spoiler] and some other plot points dotted about. All easily avoidable without affecting the story.


Tried a google search to find out just what fans thought was spoilered and couldn't find anything - lots of tie in points, but nothing that would spoil a surprise  - this is typical of reviews/comments:

QuoteHaven't seen Avengers: Age of Ultron yet? Don't worry. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 2, episode 20 does not reveal any major plot-points from Marvel's most recent blockbuster.

Well, other than the fact that Ultron apparently fails to obliterate humanity. But we kind of saw that one coming.

That said, "Scars" does include several references to the wreckage left in Ultron's wake. There are clues about the nature of the movie's conclusion, the involvement of Theta Protocol, and why nobody likes Tony Stark anymore. But those hints are easy to ignore if, like this writer, you won't be able to get your Avengers-loving self into a movie theater by Tuesday evening.

(if anything, the movie spoilers the ending of the series wuith the Theta Protocol)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Stan on 14 August, 2015, 07:54:30 PM
I suppose everyone has a different sensitivity to these things and it's something that'll annoy some people and not others. To me it just made the anticipation of the film a little anti-clamactic. The best way to understand it, I think, is to imagine them having a scene from Avengers Assemble where all the Avengers are dusting themselves down and patting themselves on the back while congratulating each other for defeating the Chitauri and saving thousands of lives, then sticking that scene right at the end of their final trailer. It'd certainly make Stark's 'sacrifice' scene a load of pants (just for starters).

That is exactly what SHIELD did for Ultron.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 August, 2015, 10:00:13 AM
Let's write our own Marvel Movie! It's here for just $79 bucks! I think its time Wolverine and Co met a fascistic Lawman who cares only about the Law and not saving the Universe from Destruction.

http://www.writersstore.com/screenwriting-marvel-style-how-to-apply-the-rules-of-the-most-successful-films-in-the-world-to-any-script/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 15 August, 2015, 11:41:48 AM
My Marvel movie involves taking four iconic characters and ruining them all in a fit of stupidity and school boy style point-the finger-blaming. And re- design a major villain for no purpose, other than to make him look silly, thus destroying any franchise for a bit. I'm sure we'll try again soon.

No one steal my idea, okay?

It all ends with Hollywood being exterminated by an oppressive lawman from the future.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 16 August, 2015, 06:31:34 PM
This thread has gone the same way as the "Make a DREDD Sequel" FB page... just all Marvel movie chatter now   ;)

(http://x.vukajlija.com/var/uploads/reactions/201508/163632/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 August, 2015, 06:55:47 PM
Needs more Kickstarter suggestions, Dredd memes and accusing Rebellion of spending the Day of Dredd revenue on Superfiend...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 August, 2015, 07:14:20 PM
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/cd7703b3035c6bb33db2ac69a4ceee32/tumblr_mqncgqW0ua1rgxdhwo2_500.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 17 August, 2015, 03:24:30 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/PxwXl4C.gif)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 17 August, 2015, 08:18:50 PM
From Judge Anderson to the Stanford Prison Experimenter Olivia Thirlby soldiers on.

https://youtu.be/3XN2X72jrFk
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 18 August, 2015, 11:13:34 AM
Apparently Mr Urban was out drinking in Cardiff on Saturday, the same day Commando Forces chooses to visit our fair town. Coincidence ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 18 August, 2015, 07:08:55 PM
Funny how these things filter down to the consumer level... It's still a way off the Phantom cameras that were used on Dredd, but having something that can shoot 1000fps in a small bridge camera is pretty amazing.

https://vimeo.com/136420766 (https://vimeo.com/136420766)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Dilworth on 19 August, 2015, 05:26:25 PM
The 1995 Stallone Mega Epic would cost $125 million in today's money.

Reckon you can still see every penny on screen.

(https://thomasrowley.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/judgedredd.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Link Prime on 21 August, 2015, 03:35:46 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 26 June, 2015, 10:12:06 PM
My Zbox arrived! The Dredd badge alone is worth more than the £19.99 price (the only reason I bought it!), so everything else is just gravy:

Zavvi must have had a surplus of Dredd badges.
They're giving one away free with the next Zbox too; http://www.zavvi.com/zbox/dredd-movie-badge-prop-replica/11088030.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 21 August, 2015, 07:06:57 PM
I don't give a damn, that is still the best photo that has ever been posted on this or any other 2000AD related forum. Z
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 21 August, 2015, 09:45:27 PM
Quote from: James Dilworth on 19 August, 2015, 05:26:25 PM
The 1995 Stallone Mega Epic would cost $125 million in today's money.

Reckon you can still see every penny on screen.

(https://thomasrowley.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/judgedredd.jpg)

Quote from: ZenArcade on 21 August, 2015, 07:06:57 PM
I don't give a damn, that is still the best photo that has ever been posted on this or any other 2000AD related forum. Z

I love the way it just naturally pops up every couple of years. It's up there with "that photo of the bloke kissing the bird's arse" and Andrew Neill in a vest with an exotic young woman
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 August, 2015, 02:23:47 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 18 August, 2015, 11:13:34 AM
Apparently Mr Urban was out drinking in Cardiff on Saturday, the same day Commando Forces chooses to visit our fair town. Coincidence ?



Karl Urban denies $16,600 Cardiff bar tab, seeks legal advice (http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/71327202/karl-urban-denies-16600-cardiff-bar-tab-seeks-legal-advice)



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 22 August, 2015, 06:09:14 AM
Quote"...Karl even walked back to Park Plaza with no security"."

"Hey!  There's that guy.....you know - whassisname - that's had all those flop star vehicles!"......shouted no-one at all in Cardiff that night.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 22 August, 2015, 10:44:40 AM
Quote from: GordonR on 22 August, 2015, 06:09:14 AM
Quote"...Karl even walked back to Park Plaza with no security"."

"Hey!  There's that guy.....you know - whassisname - that's had all those flop star vehicles!"......shouted no-one at all in Cardiff that night.

Writers...there's a cruel streak in you isn't there? That said do famous people get charged more than the rest of us? That sounds a bit galling to me. You'd think people would be happy to give a few freebies for good customer relations rather than say 'Aha! You're someone off the telly so I'm going to charge you more you rich bastard.' Course they might have picked up the most expensive champagne etc but, £7000?! Seems  a bit steep to me for several bottles of Vino de plonk.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 22 August, 2015, 02:05:43 PM
I'm just highly amused by the idea that this club owner thinks the guy whose next film role is playing the dad in the remake of Pete's Dragon needs security to go out in public.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Buttonman on 23 August, 2015, 11:10:05 PM
Nice Dredd still in this list and a gif!

http://thechive.com/2015/08/21/stunning-frames-from-great-movies-24-hq-photos/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=chivetrafficfacebook (http://thechive.com/2015/08/21/stunning-frames-from-great-movies-24-hq-photos/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=chivetrafficfacebook)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 24 August, 2015, 12:04:14 PM
Quote from: GordonR on 22 August, 2015, 02:05:43 PM
I'm just highly amused by the idea that this club owner thinks the guy whose next film role is playing the dad in the remake of Pete's Dragon needs security to go out in public.
Park Plaza is part of the same building as my office is in. The road we are on (Greyfriars Road) is pretty rowdy at night, I'd advise most people to have security walking down here of an evening.  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Keef Monkey on 25 August, 2015, 11:20:23 AM
Quote from: GordonR on 22 August, 2015, 06:09:14 AM
Quote"...Karl even walked back to Park Plaza with no security"."

"Hey!  There's that guy.....you know - whassisname - that's had all those flop star vehicles!"......shouted no-one at all in Cardiff that night.

Well he is Bones in Star Trek, and also had a decent role in LoTR. Those are both moderately successful franchises.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 25 August, 2015, 12:54:17 PM
Yes, but I said 'star vehiclles', and he's not the star of those films.  No-one - except maybe Karl Urban's mum  - went to see LotR because he was in it.

Every film he has been the star of - Doom, Pathfinder, Dredd - where the career intention has been to launch him as a lead actor in action roles  - has flopped.  A downgrade into TV lead actor also flopped.

Again - next role, third banana part in the Pete's Dragon remake.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dunk! on 25 August, 2015, 01:14:44 PM
Wait...they're remaking Pete's Dragon?

Gawd, improve my childhood why don't you!

Dunk!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 25 August, 2015, 01:18:45 PM
Good as he was in Star Trek, that series is arguably not doing too great either, despite its obvious high profile.  Apparantly when they were spending buttons to make Trek movies they didn't have a problem turning a profit - once they started spending 200 million on lens flares, not so much.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 August, 2015, 01:55:41 PM
Looks awesome t-shirt!

(http://www.teefury.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/b/-/b-mco-fritz-lang-s-dredd_1.png)

http://www.teefury.com/fritz-lang-s-dredd?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=display&utm_content=fritzlangsdredd&utm_campaign=galleryfbad (http://www.teefury.com/fritz-lang-s-dredd?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=display&utm_content=fritzlangsdredd&utm_campaign=galleryfbad)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 27 August, 2015, 04:01:45 PM
What a great interpretation.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dash Decent on 01 September, 2015, 12:18:40 PM
I saw this book today (hey, I can't read 2000AD all the time).  The start seems very familiar.  What do you think?

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x418/Dash_Decent/FD1_zps2qvqvso9.jpg)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x418/Dash_Decent/FD2_zpsfkx4pukt.jpg)

The book was published in 2013 so the author could certainly have been influenced by the movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 01 September, 2015, 12:30:32 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 22 August, 2015, 02:23:47 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 18 August, 2015, 11:13:34 AM
Apparently Mr Urban was out drinking in Cardiff on Saturday, the same day Commando Forces chooses to visit our fair town. Coincidence ?



Karl Urban denies $16,600 Cardiff bar tab, seeks legal advice (http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/71327202/karl-urban-denies-16600-cardiff-bar-tab-seeks-legal-advice)

I found out something re this on the weekend.  Karl is dating Katee Sackhoff.  She was in Cardiff filming that weekend.  I know, 'cos she went in my mates bar and signed a photo he has of her on the wall (Cardiffians may know FUEL well - ask Rob next time you pop in).

So it's possible Karl was accompanying her to Cardiff while she filmed. 

So no news re Dredd, but perhaps mystery solved re the Cardiff visit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 01 September, 2015, 01:45:46 PM
I think Rob was an extra in what she was filming.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 01 September, 2015, 02:56:31 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 01 September, 2015, 12:30:32 PM

I found out something re this on the weekend.  Karl is dating Katee Sackhoff. 

If you can be arsed trawling through the previous few hundred pages of this thread, there was a link to some geek videocast with Katee Sackhof in which she discussed Dredd and confirmed they are an item.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 01 September, 2015, 02:57:12 PM
apologies for double post (EDIT function has vanished):


from Wikipedia; " Urban is currently dating Katee Sackhoff, which was confirmed by Sackhoff on the "Schmoes Know Movie" show on 29th January 2015."
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 03 September, 2015, 06:21:12 PM
The podcast of Birth. Movies. Death. (formerly Badass Digest) is currently doing a series of retrospectives based on future cops. Thought this one on Judge Dredd (1995) and Demolition Man might be of interest:

https://soundcloud.com/birthmoviesdeath/demolition-man-and-judge-dredd-the-rob-schneider-double-feature-extravaganza (https://soundcloud.com/birthmoviesdeath/demolition-man-and-judge-dredd-the-rob-schneider-double-feature-extravaganza)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 03 September, 2015, 06:37:53 PM
Is the John Wagner tweet about a sequel old news?

http://peeltheorange.net/2015/09/03/john-wagner-says-there-will-be-a-new-dredd-film/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Woolly on 03 September, 2015, 06:47:39 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 03 September, 2015, 06:37:53 PM
Is the John Wagner tweet about a sequel old news?

http://peeltheorange.net/2015/09/03/john-wagner-says-there-will-be-a-new-dredd-film/

Would've thought he means an unrelated film, sometime within the next 10 years.
Really hope I'm wrong though!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 September, 2015, 06:57:30 PM
Pretty sure there's nothing new here. Even Alex Garland says he thinks there'll be another film, it just won't be for a few years, and it won't be by him.

As I've said before: the main silver lining of Dredd's commercial disaster is that it's quite effectively 'de-stinking' Dredd as a cinema brand.

At some point, someone will feel brave enough to take a punt on another movie, but they'll be building on the solid critical reputation and strong fanbase of the 2012 movie, not trying to shake off the reputation of the '95 one.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 September, 2015, 07:34:35 PM
I'm wondering if/when it happens there will be a push towards a more comic tone.

I like Dredd a lot, but the bleaker tone, and a comparatively straight approach seems like it's something that could work against a new film - seems to be debatable whether the stripped back approach helped or hindered at a commercial level.

I've lost count of the times Dredd 2012 was referenced with regards to police excess in the US over the past year. Having the distance of some of the elements of the comic, seems like it would be more successful and also maybe give a hint to those who take it as aspirational rather than satire.

Whether that would put off new fans of the 2012 film, I don't know - I imagine for a lot of them their main concern would be whether Karl Urban is in it or not...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 04 September, 2015, 08:20:27 AM
The filmmakers could employ a similar template to the Mad Max movies.
Mad Max 1 was more of a straight revenge thriller, with the later films introducing the more surreal, absurdist elements.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 05 September, 2015, 10:28:06 AM
Like that other Sci fi classic Dune Dredd is difficult to make into a movie. It's 'hero' is an out and out fascist, the city is an urban hell hole and there is absolutely no hope in Mega City 1 or indeed in the cursed earth. Also recent events involving law enforcement in America may have made a tough Lawman, 'beating up the wrong guy' to quote Bowie unpalatable to a mass audience. Dredd seems more suited to TV where you could explore the happy dystopia over a few season rather than in a single film. Cheaper money wise to though I guess only HBO in some joint venture with a British TV channel would take on the dark menace of Dredds world.
Gotham's pretty dark stuff and is a comic related title so if it becomes established in the ratings perhaps a rival studio will look for something with a more adult audience in mind. Judge Dredd's world is set in the near future     in an urban environment so you wouldn't have to design to many expensive sets Game of Thrones style. Still it would be a gamble and I doubt anyone has the will or the finances at the moment to try it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 September, 2015, 11:18:20 PM
You know of that Hilton Hotel in Manchester. As I am at Manchester for few days as work, I stay at hotel, and I photograph this on this morning - very familiar to some film...

(http://i.imgur.com/Su7nCa6.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 08 September, 2015, 07:44:09 AM
Urgh. Fuck ugly 'innit. Been a eye sore on the Manchester horizon for years now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 08 September, 2015, 11:11:38 AM
Urgh. What is it with modern Britain and building stupidly tall buildings? The London skyline now also looks like arse after all of Boris and his rich mates allowing horribly out of place structures to be constructed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 08 September, 2015, 08:59:46 PM
I have to defend the Tower, I've grown to love it. There's nothing wrong with stupidly tall if done with a little style and simplicity - it's not hideously shaped like that walkie-talkie monstrosity, and the way it stands like a single arrogant monolith at the end of Deansgate, refusing to be ignored by anyone for miles around - that's pure Manc, that is. It's also useful if I'm in an unfamiliar part of town because it's visible from anywhere and helps me know which direction is home!

I watched it going up day by day - this is my street:

(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd359/anaconda888/rockdove1_zpss39xol4v.jpg)
(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd359/anaconda888/new%20239_zpsohieedaj.jpg)
(The concrete monstrosity between my street and the tower is a partially built office block that was abandoned during the property crash and nevr finished.)

In certain lights it can be quite beautiful:

(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd359/anaconda888/mist%20amp%20sun%2036_zpsz1kjnhbi.jpg)
(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd359/anaconda888/070_zpsynekpaex.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: M.I.K. on 08 September, 2015, 09:23:48 PM
Sometimes happens with big buildings...

Everybody hates it, everybody hates it, everybody hates it, decades pass, people grow up with it, more decades pass, somebody decides to demolish it, huge uproar because its a local landmark.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 05 October, 2015, 08:40:10 AM
Date night with my new lady last night. We watched Dredd. She hasn't seen it before, no idea of the comic character. First words out of her mouth when it ended - 'That was awesome!!! Is there a sequel?!'

Folks, I think I'm in love.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Woolly on 05 October, 2015, 01:04:16 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 05 October, 2015, 08:40:10 AM
Date night with my new lady last night. We watched Dredd. She hasn't seen it before, no idea of the comic character. First words out of her mouth when it ended - 'That was awesome!!! Is there a sequel?!'

Folks, I think I'm in love.

Yup, she sounds like a keeper  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 05 October, 2015, 03:56:26 PM
Quote from: Woolly on 05 October, 2015, 01:04:16 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 05 October, 2015, 08:40:10 AM
Date night with my new lady last night. We watched Dredd. She hasn't seen it before, no idea of the comic character. First words out of her mouth when it ended - 'That was awesome!!! Is there a sequel?!'

Folks, I think I'm in love.

Yup, she sounds like a keeper  :thumbsup:

She's definitely a pass.  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 05 October, 2015, 04:23:51 PM
Ah, the early bloom of love-I remember it well!
Only for, embittered years later, the veil to come tumbling down when she admits that she actually preferred Stallone Dredd all along!!!!!!! :o :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bolt-01 on 05 October, 2015, 04:38:14 PM
"Ah Noo Yoo'd Say Dat!"

snigger...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 October, 2015, 04:45:25 PM
My good lady has never seen it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 October, 2015, 04:48:34 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 October, 2015, 04:45:25 PM
My good lady has never seen it!

Ditto!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 05 October, 2015, 05:19:05 PM
My wife's a big fan, although I don't think she's ever read any Dredd. (She dislikes comics that aren't 'finite' in nature, and also isn't keen on trawling through the entire history of the strip.) She even braved it in 3D, once it became obvious no local cinemas would show it in 'normalvision'. (We both have some motion-sickness issues, so that was a punt, but we both came out of it OK.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 05 October, 2015, 06:50:27 PM
I shall relate a conversation in work for your amusement :

'Seen your lady this weekend Dave?'
'Yes, we watched Dredd last night.'
*whole team turns to listen*
'What did she think of it?'
'She said it was awesome, and asked if there was a sequel.'
*team cheers*
'Marry her Dave!!!'

:D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SuperSurfer on 05 October, 2015, 11:01:06 PM
My better half really liked Dredd which we saw at the cinema.

Great you might say but a couple of days ago she saw me playing Dredd vs Zombies on my phone and uttered the words "I am the law!" mocking the voice of a certain actor and I am not talking Mr Urban.

Seethe >:(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 06 October, 2015, 07:25:39 AM
Ha! Yeah, at work my 2nd in command couldn't help getting a dig in. 'Did you tell her there's a prequel Dave?'

Bastard.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 06 October, 2015, 01:39:12 PM
My Mrs hated it. Absolutely. I ended up having to justify the comic to her afterwards.  But fuck it, it's only a film. She's still a keeper.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 08 October, 2015, 11:37:40 PM
My Mrs loved it, saw it with me in 3d at the local flee pit and said " there had better be a sequal as i want to see more of that" . sadly we all no thats not the case but she wanted more people, my wife who hates these sort of films wanted more Dredd and all those years she mocked me for buying the comics. :lol: :lol: Just goes to show what a good film it truly is.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fungus on 09 October, 2015, 03:29:30 AM
Quote from: Beadle68 on 08 October, 2015, 11:37:40 PM
My Mrs loved it, saw it with me in 3d at the local flee pit and said " there had better be a sequal as i want to see more of that" . sadly we all no thats not the case but she wanted more people, my wife who hates these sort of films wanted more Dredd and all those years she mocked me for buying the comics. :lol: :lol: Just goes to show what a good film it truly is.

'flee pit' I like.
She mocked you? Harsh. Meanwhile, films aren't comics so nothing means anything. Comics don't need defending.
Like your wife, I also 'hate' 'these sort of films', and never watch them. Dredd I bought out of curiosity and liked very much.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 November, 2015, 01:05:16 PM
The Dredd (2012) classroom map


(http://www.propstore.com/product-images/2310/260792.jpg?_ga=1.179210852.1968308829.1320501273)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 November, 2015, 01:08:47 PM




http://www.propstore.com/product/dredd/classroom-map/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 18 November, 2015, 01:58:16 PM
Oh wow, that's amazing!!  Does 'reserved' mean someone's already bagsed it? 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 November, 2015, 02:03:08 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 18 November, 2015, 01:58:16 PM
Oh wow, that's amazing!!  Does 'reserved' mean someone's already bagsed it?


Somebody got it for the tiny sume of £495.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 18 November, 2015, 02:04:30 PM
I do like a good map, thats a nice one. Z
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 18 November, 2015, 02:27:05 PM
Interesting to see it in full. Subtle changes from the map it's based on, not least East-Meg One (rather than 'the site of') and South Africa still being in one piece.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 18 November, 2015, 02:56:17 PM
Well Joe Soap post a HQ photo of map, you can take it shop and print it in large, and you got big poster! bingo!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 19 November, 2015, 02:00:36 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 November, 2015, 02:03:08 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 18 November, 2015, 01:58:16 PM
Oh wow, that's amazing!!  Does 'reserved' mean someone's already bagsed it?


Somebody got it for the tiny sume of £495.

Oh wow!  I would have gladly paid £500 for it!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 19 November, 2015, 05:16:00 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 18 November, 2015, 02:27:05 PM
Interesting to see it in full. Subtle changes from the map it's based on, not least East-Meg One (rather than 'the site of') and South Africa still being in one piece.
Aquatraz not on it either.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 19 November, 2015, 05:21:57 PM
Site of East Meg One. I always thought the movie was pre apocalypse war. Z
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 November, 2015, 06:19:51 PM
Quote from: ZenArcade on 19 November, 2015, 05:21:57 PM
Site of East Meg One. I always thought the movie was pre apocalypse war. Z


Not that the film is too concerned to make a story-point of this but you can calculate the specific year it's set in by Ma-Ma's on-screen rap-sheet.

Born in 2061; she's now 39, so the film's present is 2100.

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/rap-sheet_zpsi3xecvdg.jpg)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 19 November, 2015, 09:00:23 PM
Quote from: ZenArcade on 19 November, 2015, 05:21:57 PM
Site of East Meg One. I always thought the movie was pre apocalypse war. Z
Hence the point I made about the film's map showing East-Meg One before the big explosions happened.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 21 November, 2015, 11:16:13 AM
DREDD is on after '71 this thursday [26/11/2015] at 10:55 PM.

http://www.film4.com/ontv?epg-date=2015-11-26&module-id=300452528
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richard on 21 November, 2015, 11:25:57 AM
Why is Mega-City Two in Mexico?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: ZenArcade on 21 November, 2015, 12:40:54 PM
I always thought th we second Meg should have been centred on the San Diego/ Los Angeles region in Southern California. Extending it down the Baja penninsula didn't seem to fit. Then again it could be said the Big Meg extends into South Eastren Canada. The NW Hab Zone seems centred on an upland area west of Ottowa. Z
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 21 November, 2015, 06:55:42 PM
When Commando Forces and Film Studies collide...

https://youtu.be/Zir0ihn2sZo?t=338 (https://youtu.be/Zir0ihn2sZo?t=338)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 21 November, 2015, 09:31:44 PM
 :lol: I always knew John was a symbol of a militarised police state, even at the news media level.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 21 November, 2015, 10:22:19 PM
I shudder to think what all the Goaty graffiti symbolises ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Echidna on 22 November, 2015, 07:35:02 AM
I broke my Youtube silence to set him straight on that, and more urgently the damn fool idea expressed in the comments that the Lawgiver readout says RAPE and SEX (it's RAPID and SEMI, obvs!)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 November, 2015, 08:57:00 AM
Shallow depth of field and obscured writing lets you see all sorts...

But there is the repression of a Judge's sexual urges and their option to reproduce bottled up into their firearm... ;)

Joe Soap's avatar is obviously a reference to washing away crime...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 22 November, 2015, 09:41:53 AM
Always kinda been morbidly curious as to what Justice Dept. have to say on having a quick wank....

'Quick get this back on topic'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 November, 2015, 10:01:56 AM
What...?

What does that video said about Commando? Very curious about my graffiti!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 November, 2015, 10:30:11 AM
That the sponsored by Commando Forces is an indication of a militarised police state even at the news media level, rather than it just being an in-joke to people on the forum.

I was joking about the other graffiti.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 November, 2015, 11:09:27 AM
Oh those weird! 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 23 November, 2015, 05:17:15 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 21 November, 2015, 06:55:42 PM
When Commando Forces and Film Studies collide...

https://youtu.be/Zir0ihn2sZo?t=338 (https://youtu.be/Zir0ihn2sZo?t=338)

Hahahaha!!! That's brilliant!!!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 November, 2015, 08:25:31 PM
Ahh perfect double bills for Film4 this Thursday; '71 and Dredd!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 27 November, 2015, 06:19:27 PM
That sexy Korean Dredd steelbook with lenticular slip-case is now available to order!

Standard red and black slip-cases also available. 

http://www.novamnm.com/index.php/blu-ray-dredd-2d-3d-lenticular-slip-ne-8.html



(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/image.jpeg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/image.jpeg.html)


(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/image_1.jpeg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/image_1.jpeg.html)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 08 January, 2016, 11:12:50 AM
Alex Garland has a few nominations in this years Baftas for Ex Machina. Former 2000AD artist Brendon McCarthy worked on the  Mad Max: Fury Road which has also been nominated for it's Production Design so lets keep fingers crossed for Alex and Brendon.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35260399
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 09 January, 2016, 11:40:33 PM
And this just showed up...

(http://kickassfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/620Dredd.jpg)

Not sure about the 'legally' though. Maybe if he took off the helmet, he was required to arrest himself?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 January, 2016, 12:17:54 AM
Quote from: Angry Vince on 09 January, 2016, 11:40:33 PM
Not sure about the 'legally' though. Maybe if he took off the helmet, he was required to arrest himself?


According to Travis: "The contract from the guys who licensed the film to us said, 'Dredd cannot take off his helmet.' "



http://www.straight.com/movies/karl-urban-and-pete-travis-stay-true-dredd-3d
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 January, 2016, 12:24:24 AM
Quote from: Angry Vince on 09 January, 2016, 11:40:33 PM
And this just showed up...

(http://kickassfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/620Dredd.jpg)


Although Karl Urban has expressed the same sentiment that particular quote was not said by him but Pete Travis:



"If you'd grown up reading Dredd, you'd never really consider taking the helmet off," Travis told a small group of journalists during an interview at the recent Toronto International Film Festival. "It just wouldn't make sense. It would be like Batman going on TV and announcing his entire back story to the world. It doesn't make any sense at all. That was from my point of view, and Karl's point of view was exactly the same. He brought it up in the first meeting that we had."

http://www.straight.com/movies/karl-urban-and-pete-travis-stay-true-dredd-3d
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dash Decent on 10 January, 2016, 02:21:42 AM
Watched the start of the movie yesterday.  I always love that in the 'hotshot' scene the Chinese eatery/nosh bar is Chu Hee Fat, i.e. "chewy fat"!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dash Decent on 10 January, 2016, 02:24:35 AM
Quote from: Dash Decent on 10 January, 2016, 02:21:42 AM
Watched the start of the movie yesterday.  I always love that in the 'hotshot' scene the Chinese eatery/nosh bar is Chu Hee Fat, i.e. "chewy fat"!

I saw a number of the forum nods on the way in and it made me wonder about your avatar, Joe.  It's a photo now but where did the original cartoon one come from?  I've always assumed it was from the MAD Dragnet parody and I wondered if Reliance had to go to EC/Warner Bros to get permission to use it for your shot in the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dash Decent on 10 January, 2016, 02:25:13 AM
Well, I stuffed up modifying the original post, didn't I?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 January, 2016, 04:19:42 AM
It's from the Alan Moore/Dave Gibbons Future Shock story isn't it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 January, 2016, 04:26:06 AM
I heard a whisper the other day on another forum from someone who seemed to be implying some kind of insider knowledge that at one stage a Dredd sequel was very much on the cards (and that funding was in place for it), but that for various reasons it ultimately didn't pan out.

Obviously it's from an incredibly dubious source and is more than likely complete bollocks, but its not entirely beyond the realms of possibility either - Karl Urban did state a few years ago that 'discussions' about a sequel were actively being had.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 January, 2016, 05:02:34 AM
Quote from: radiator on 10 January, 2016, 04:26:06 AM
I heard a whisper the other day on another forum from someone who seemed to be implying some kind of insider knowledge that at one stage a Dredd sequel was very much on the cards (and that funding was in place for it), but that for various reasons it ultimately didn't pan out.

Obviously it's from an incredibly dubious source and is more than likely complete bollocks, but its not entirely beyond the realms of possibility either - Karl Urban did state a few years ago that 'discussions' about a sequel were actively being had.

This happened well over a year ago and I believe it to be close enough to the truth (the source of the info is believable) but unfortunately not all ducks could be lined-up to make it happen. It's one of the reasons why the hero props/costumes for all main characters -still alive after the first film- were being held back from the main ebay auction in 2013. These things happen with such complex productions and it's not always just about money but it does mean there was a level of confidence -money to be made- to try again.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dash Decent on 10 January, 2016, 06:05:45 AM
Quote from: radiator on 10 January, 2016, 04:19:42 AM
It's from the Alan Moore/Dave Gibbons Future Shock story isn't it?

D'oh, That's right! (Slaps forehead) I knew that - though of course "Chrono Cops" was deliberately drawn as a nod to the early Kurtzman-era MAD comics. The detective was made to resemble their parody of the Joe Friday from Dragnet.  Even the Chrono Cops "CC" logo we see in the story is the EC logo with the middle bar of the E removed.

I should take a couple of pictures and post it in the Swipe file thread (under H for Homage, of course).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 10 January, 2016, 06:30:09 AM
Quote from: Dash Decent on 10 January, 2016, 06:05:45 AM
Quote from: radiator on 10 January, 2016, 04:19:42 AM
It's from the Alan Moore/Dave Gibbons Future Shock story isn't it?

D'oh, That's right! (Slaps forehead) I knew that - though of course "Chrono Cops" was deliberately drawn as a nod to the early Kurtzman-era MAD comics. The detective was made to resemble their parody of the Joe Friday from Dragnet.  Even the Chrono Cops "CC" logo we see in the story is the EC logo with the middle bar of the E removed.

I should take a couple of pictures and post it in the Swipe file thread (under H for Homage, of course).

Of course! Who could forget Zanzibar Z Ziggurat?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 10 January, 2016, 02:11:36 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 January, 2016, 05:02:34 AM
Quote from: radiator on 10 January, 2016, 04:26:06 AM
I heard a whisper the other day on another forum from someone who seemed to be implying some kind of insider knowledge that at one stage a Dredd sequel was very much on the cards (and that funding was in place for it), but that for various reasons it ultimately didn't pan out.

Obviously it's from an incredibly dubious source and is more than likely complete bollocks, but its not entirely beyond the realms of possibility either - Karl Urban did state a few years ago that 'discussions' about a sequel were actively being had.

This happened well over a year ago and I believe it to be close enough to the truth (the source of the info is believable) but unfortunately not all ducks could be lined-up to make it happen. It's one of the reasons why the hero props/costumes for all main characters -still alive after the first film- were being held back from the main ebay auction in 2013. These things happen with such complex productions and it's not always just about money but it does mean there was a level of confidence -money to be made- to try again.

Blimey so there was interest in a sequel. I thought the Box Office numbers did for any D2 despite the very impressive DVD sales. Ah, what might have been.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 January, 2016, 08:39:51 PM
Interesting no talks about Dredd series on this forum, as this reporting on media site;

the fan movement for another live-action "Dredd" film has been reinvented. Now dubbed 'Bring Back Dredd,' the new campaign is calling out for fans to grab the attention of streaming platforms like HBO, Hulu, Amazon or Netflix in hopes that a sequel to the film can come in the form of a TV series. The petition is already at 136,000 signatures and you can add your name at this site.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 January, 2016, 08:52:40 PM
Because it's nothing concrete, just changing the focus of the previous Make a Dredd Sequel to a TV series.

Alex Garland has moved on and stated that it would be someone else's crack at Dredd if something happened in the future.

Karl Urban has previously stated he doesn't want to do another TV series after Almost Human.

The film/tv rights revert to Rebellion within a year or so, as I understand it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 15 January, 2016, 08:53:51 PM
Yeah, you're right. Nice there's fans out there. Good luck to them if they can make another Dredd.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 15 January, 2016, 09:05:13 PM
Amazon have been doing great things with Man In The High Castle so a Dredd series could convince me to subscribe.

If a series did appear on Netflix it would make a nice change from all that Marvel guff too!

No Urban or Thirlby would be a loss, but maybe Urban would make an exception to his no more TV rule, if it was a limited mini-series and as he appears very attached to the character.

Regardless, I wish the campaign the best of luck and it's heartening to see 2000AD getting behind it too!

More exposure of the comic can't be a bad thing!

https://www.facebook.com/BringBackDredd/

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: 8-Ball on 15 January, 2016, 09:16:07 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 15 January, 2016, 08:53:51 PM
Yeah, you're right. Nice there's fans out there. Good luck to them if they can make another Dredd.

I've signed the petition. I'm of the opinion that I don't think anything will come of it, but what the hell, in for a penny and all that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 16 January, 2016, 12:12:08 AM
I have signed it too , any chance no matter how small of getting Dredd back on the screen is worth my signature  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 January, 2016, 01:59:01 PM
In the astonishingly unlikely scenario that Netflix or HBO did decide to do a Dredd run, I can't imagine Urban would dismiss it out of and due to his previous TV experiences. But while there have been decent runs of increasingly elaborate tales on the screen, Dredd is a long way from Jessica Jones and Daredevil in terms of outlay. Dredd the movie was only relatively cheap because of its confined nature. As soon as you open it up to Mega City One, it could all get colossally expensive. Still, there's always a chance, no matter how slim.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NapalmKev on 16 January, 2016, 02:13:09 PM
They could start the series with Rookie's Joe and Rico, before the Apocalypse War. The setting is pretty much the same as present day. If the first series did well it could possibly get a bigger budget (better VFX) for later episodes set further in the future, Possibly interspersed with the odd 'Flashback' storyline to still keep within a reasonable budget.

Cheers
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NapalmKev on 16 January, 2016, 02:16:25 PM
Quote from: NapalmKev on 16 January, 2016, 02:13:09 PM
They could start the series with Rookie's Joe and Rico, before the Apocalypse War. The setting is pretty much the same as present day. If the first series did well it could possibly get a bigger budget (better VFX) for later episodes set further in the future, Possibly interspersed with the odd 'Flashback' storyline to still keep within a reasonable budget.

Cheers

Edit: I meant the War caused by Bob Booth.

Cheers
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 January, 2016, 04:22:35 PM
I don't think it necessarily has to be that much more expensive if you're going with the 2012 aesthetic.

Introduce the undercity, and use the cursed earth, even the psychic hallucinations shown with Anderson opens things up a bit more without killing the budget.

Plus there wouldn't be all the cocking about with 3D.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 January, 2016, 10:07:37 PM


With the Marvel productions it's Disney/Marvel TV paying the cost to make the series; Netflix have committed to buying the exclusive rights to stream all of the series.

It's costing Disney $200 million to make 60 episodes.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 17 January, 2016, 06:25:42 AM
Have a question for you guys (sorry if it's already been asked) but say a DREDD sequel was going underway would it be a good idea to adapt the Cursed Earth story line so close to Mad Max's recent release? I have a bad feeling if anything Cursed Earth related were to be done on the big screen there would be countless accusations that DREDD II was trying to jump on the Apocalyptic wasteland bandwagon like the first Dredd was accused of being a remake of the Raid.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 17 January, 2016, 09:11:36 AM
It wouldn't be recent by the time something got made.

It's a bit no win really - if Fury Road flopped, it would make people wary of post-apocalyptic genre, if it succeeded you get accused of jumping on the bandwagon.

Personally I think exploring the psychic/supernatural would be the way to go - Matt's year one seemed like a really good framework for a sequel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 17 January, 2016, 10:53:06 AM
Yep, I think you could easily use the established elements of Anderson to open up a psychic/supernatural plot.  The Cursed Earth itself just doesn't stand up as a story midel, being so derivative and bitty itself, and I suspect there's not a lot of room to do something massively new with post-apoc wastelands. Note how the strip itself only occasionally goes there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 17 January, 2016, 11:26:49 AM
It also does something a bit too close to the Stallone Dredd: removing many of the components that make the strip what it is. Mega City One is as much of a character as Dredd, even if that's been toned down some in recent years (notably with Wagner shifting to grittier procedurals). Lobbing Dredd into a desert doesn't seem like the best next step, if one were to be taken.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 January, 2016, 12:58:01 PM

Apart from repetition, the bigger problem following Max is money - Dredd's significantly lower budget ($35 million v $150 million) would result in The Cursed Earth feeling like a picnic than the epic road trip through dead Americana that it needs to be. Fury Road is the final word on wastelands for the foreseeable or at least until the next Mad Max.

The Cursed Earth is better played as a fearful and unknown exterior presence where only old Judges go to die. It's the literal barbarians at the gate scenario that feeds into the malaise of living on the less anarchic, authoritarian, side of the wall. The Judges would obviously be playing-up this narrative to the citizens that they really are the only alternative. It's strengthens the pressure cooker feel of the city.

The most interesting thing about it is the mutant angle and how that plays into the political, social and genetic attitudes of the city.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 17 January, 2016, 01:14:09 PM
Yep I think Joe Soap has got it. Keep it in the City, dark corridors hiding darker minds with the occasional neon hell street shots of the city.

Gotham is clearly an adult take on the Batman myth so perhaps there might be room for a vigilante Cop who has to police a set of weird and grotesque characters in a urban blighted City. Trouble is after recent events in America a tough, Fascistic Lawman might be very off putting to large numbers of your target audience. 'America depicted as a fascist Police state? Tell me something I don't know!'

Still I think DREDD as a TV show is a good idea and if Gotham continues it might suit some TV Producer to have a look at other dark projects. Marvel's The Punisher comes to mind rather than DREDD but we can live in hope for that's probably all we have at the moment.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 January, 2016, 01:38:58 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 17 January, 2016, 01:14:09 PM
Trouble is after recent events in America a tough, Fascistic Lawman might be very off putting to large numbers of your target audience. 'America depicted as a fascist Police state? Tell me something I don't know!'

I don't fully buy into this idea or that it's an insurmountable aspect of the material, I mean DREDD found most of its popularity among Americans to the point where its DVD sales exceeded the last RoboCop - a film that did better at the box-office and is arguably a modern American icon.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 17 January, 2016, 01:40:59 PM
Mm. It's always hard to figure out popularity of Judge Dredd in the US, but the Dredd film did seem to find an audience. How big it was is another matter. (Notably, it fared significantly less well critically in the US, given that many reviewers clearly couldn't stomach the film and what it represented.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 January, 2016, 01:59:04 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 17 January, 2016, 01:40:59 PM
(Notably, it fared significantly less well critically in the US, given that many reviewers clearly couldn't stomach the film and what it represented.)

Generally any film that trades on bloody violence will get mixed reviews and most of the criticisms seemed to focus on the film having 'a lack of depth' or 'seen it before' rather than it being a fascist police setting.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 17 January, 2016, 02:20:43 PM
I just found it interesting how split the critical feedback was. The US was considerably more negative on the whole.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 18 January, 2016, 03:07:44 AM
Whoo! The Dredd tv petition got mentioned by Mundane Matt.  :lol:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLfSca7SJRvNLnJs65flzCozQsP35Gp3yW&v=FiP6C0zavQ0
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 20 January, 2016, 11:23:54 PM
Watched it with Tiny Tips tonight. He thought it was good.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 10 March, 2016, 07:53:23 AM
I can feel the memes being cranked out already.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/367419-will-sylvester-stallone-appear-in-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-in-a-familiar-costume#/slide/1 (http://www.superherohype.com/news/367419-will-sylvester-stallone-appear-in-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-in-a-familiar-costume#/slide/1)

His costume looks a bit Dreddish.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 18 March, 2016, 09:43:52 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 10 March, 2016, 07:53:23 AM
I can feel the memes being cranked out already.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/367419-will-sylvester-stallone-appear-in-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-in-a-familiar-costume#/slide/1 (http://www.superherohype.com/news/367419-will-sylvester-stallone-appear-in-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-in-a-familiar-costume#/slide/1)

His costume looks a bit Dreddish.
Not going to lie, Sly as a Nova Corp drill seargent would be the coolest damn thing.

And more [spoiler]Howard the Duck [/spoiler]can only be a good thing!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 04 April, 2016, 10:58:02 AM
Wil Wheaton like it.

http://wilwheaton.net/2016/04/remake-culture-is-the-worst-except-when-it-isnt/ (http://wilwheaton.net/2016/04/remake-culture-is-the-worst-except-when-it-isnt/)

I hate reboot culture. I hate that studios remake movies that were perfectly fine the first time around, simply because they're too afraid to take a chance on something new, different and unproven.

That said, in an instance like Dredd, where the original film adaptation was a catastrophic failure of flaming shit, I should be willing to make exceptions.

I should be, but I'm usually not, because I'm stubborn. So when I posted about how I didn't want to watch the 2012 version of the film, about two dozen people urged me to reconsider. I decided to take a chance (you know, like studios won't), and watched it last night. I am so glad that I did, because I loved everything about it. A lot of fans fixate on Dredd never taking off the helmet, which I understand, but I don't think that's its strongest selling point. What I loved about it was how it felt like a proper motion picture adaptation of the 2000 A.D comics I read in the 80s, and the Games Workshop games I played from that universe. The city blocks felt massive. The Judges felt powerful. The relationship between Dredd and Anderson felt real. She didn't need him to save her, even when he was trying to. The design of the entire picture, from the costumes to the sets to the little details like graffiti was pitch-perfect. And the photography was sensational.

I felt like it started to wobble a little bit in the third act, but like I originally wrote yesterday, I was on board by that point so I was willing to go along with it and let it be. I'm guessing that there won't be any sequels, or we would have heard about it by now. If that's the case, it's a bummer, because I'd like to see these characters and this universe again ... but maybe it's for the best that this film can simply exist as its own thing, without being tainted by a sequel that lets us down (OH HAI THE MATRIX). Or maybe it's a tragedy that Dredd won't get its Aliens or T2. I don't know. I'm not a doctor.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 04 April, 2016, 02:31:32 PM
I'm glad he liked it, but that notion of reboot culture is a pity, especially regarding adaptations. Why not have another crack at something, if enough time has passed AND if you will offer a significantly different spin on it? Doubly so if this is a take on wide-ranging source material — as in, decades of Dredd vs. reworking an existing one-off film property. And even in the latter case, there are plenty of great films that wouldn't exist if 'remakes' and 'reboots' couldn't happen.

The issue for me is that you have certain studios cynically rebooting on a regular interval, in order to retain rights, or because they keep screwing up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Dilworth on 04 April, 2016, 07:56:43 PM
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2762234/wesley-crusher-slap-o.gif)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 04 April, 2016, 08:38:27 PM
SHUT UP WESLEY!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 April, 2016, 02:28:27 AM
Karl posted up on Twitter yesterday that he'd be up for a Dredd series on Netflix or Amazon, as there's a gold mine of awesome Mega-City 1 stories.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 April, 2016, 10:00:35 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 April, 2016, 02:28:27 AM
Karl posted up on Twitter yesterday that he'd be up for a Dredd series on Netflix or Amazon, as there's a gold mine of awesome Mega-City 1 stories.

Good for Karl to say that on Twitter, it will be retweet lots. Hope it Kickstarter.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 May, 2016, 06:50:28 PM
Christopher Edwards –  ‏@cjsedwards

On @netflix or @amazon Dredd series @KarlUrban says "conversations are happening" @Calgaryexpo #CalgaryExpo
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 01 May, 2016, 06:56:38 PM
Here's the article that was shared on Facebook. God, I hope this happens. :)

http://www.screengeek.net/2016/05/01/karl-urban-says-conversations-about-a-dredd-series-are-happening/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 01 May, 2016, 10:13:48 PM
https://twitter.com/RebellionJason/status/726877062548606976 (https://twitter.com/RebellionJason/status/726877062548606976)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 May, 2016, 10:56:29 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 01 May, 2016, 10:13:48 PM
https://twitter.com/RebellionJason/status/726877062548606976 (https://twitter.com/RebellionJason/status/726877062548606976)

Ooh keep the faith...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 01 May, 2016, 11:08:21 PM
io9 reporting that conversations are being held with Netflix.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/karl-urban-conversations-are-happening-about-dredd-s-1774136500?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

I don't want to get my hopes up, only to have them dashed, but this is all sounding very positive.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 May, 2016, 11:12:01 PM
Keeping it alive on social media and people pushing for it may actually pay off.
I'm positive about all this and nothing will dampen my Dredd flame!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 May, 2016, 11:17:37 PM
Well I guess it all thanks to Deadpool and the Punisher successful in 2016?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 02 May, 2016, 12:17:55 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 May, 2016, 11:12:01 PM
Keeping it alive on social media and people pushing for it may actually pay off.
I'm positive about all this and nothing will dampen my Dredd flame!
If NF actually had the stones to pick up a Dredd series or sequel they'd have a subscriber for life. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 02 May, 2016, 04:14:31 AM
Always happy to hear Dredd is in the mix!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 02 May, 2016, 09:11:20 AM
Holy mother of grud!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 02 May, 2016, 11:06:15 AM
Can it be true? Will Netflix or Amazon cough up the dough for Mega city madness? Holy Grud if it is so!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 02 May, 2016, 11:20:13 AM
It's actually going to happen isn't it?  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 02 May, 2016, 11:23:30 AM
Bless those tax dodging corporates.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: 8-Ball on 02 May, 2016, 06:37:46 PM
If this happens (and it needs to happen) I will subscribe to whatever VOD site it appears on. However, after being burned by all the "It might get a sequel!" hype over the years, I refuse to get my hopes up until I see some footage. So c'mon Netflix or whoever - get the finger out. The Dredd concept is too juicy to let go to waste.  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 May, 2016, 11:39:57 PM
Having no clue what type of pitch they're making to the studios - whether it be film or series or both - but taking the Netflix season format into account, it's not cheap: 13 episodes of Daredevil Season 1 cost $56 million according to Empire State Development (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_State_Development_Corporation) of New York. Maybe if it gets far enough down the line it'll be a mini-series to start with. Hopefully they get something out of it.


Daredevil S1 had the production title Bluff (http://comicbook.com/2014/11/01/marvel-netflix-daredevil-tv-series-filming-under-codename-bluff/):

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/DD%20S1_zpsl0dq9tyf.jpg)




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 03 May, 2016, 01:19:00 AM
I did not know this..."I can also confirm that screen rights for Judge Dredd have reverted to Rebellion's hands a few months ago. So it is the IP rights holder that is heading the negotiations."...I thought it was still under the DNAFilms umbrella so this is great news.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 May, 2016, 01:52:12 AM


I wonder do they also have the audio-visual rights to use the DREDD designs and content established by DNA and IMGlobal - do they need to redesign them somewhat or start anew?


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 03 May, 2016, 02:16:53 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 03 May, 2016, 01:52:12 AM


I wonder do they also have the audio-visual rights to use the DREDD designs and content established by DNA and IMGlobal - do they need to redesign them somewhat or start anew?
I didn't even think of that. Here's hoping they start on a freash start.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 03 May, 2016, 10:44:47 AM
I'd be happy to see something following on from the movies, if the rights can be attained. The snag for me is money. How much do broadly similar series in scope cost? How limited would it need to be in terms of environment, to be viable? (The movie having been set mostly in a tower block, in order to bring it home for around $35m.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 03 May, 2016, 10:49:27 AM
They could work with team behind Judge Minty?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 03 May, 2016, 10:49:42 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 03 May, 2016, 01:52:12 AM
I wonder do they also have the audio-visual rights to use the DREDD designs and content established by DNA and IMGlobal - do they need to redesign them somewhat or start anew?

Redesigning everything would add to the costs of production- hardly something would be program makers would find desirable. $56 million for Dare Devil?! That is pretty damn steep!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 May, 2016, 11:48:50 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 03 May, 2016, 10:49:27 AM
They could work with team behind Judge Minty?

That's very sweet, but we were just making it for a bit of fun.

I doubt much that's done to mercilessly squeeze the most out of a budget on a fan film translates to a feature or tv series.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 03 May, 2016, 04:27:54 PM
Fan movies can be cheap because no-one is expecting to get union rates for their contribution to a fan film - but that would never fly with an official production.  The unions would go mental if studios started hiring non-union crew and then paid them fuck all.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Will Cooling on 05 May, 2016, 01:58:57 PM

To give my controversial opinion on Dredd, I thought whilst the performances were great, the film lacked the humour, satire and futurism that really makes Dredd such a great strip. I know much of this is due to budget limitations but the world wasn't weird enough to make the film significantly different to a standard cop film. That it was so widely confused with a straight action film like The Raid shows that it was lacking something compared to the strip. This is perhaps best shown in the lead bad guy - is a scared gangster dealing pretty ordinary drugs really up to the standards of classic Dredd strips.

Again I know there's problems with budgets and maybe animated movies is the better direction to go down but the world they created was so humdrum that it barely counts as an adaptation of Wagner/Grant's genius. Again Urban nails Dress but it's a great performance looking for a better film.

I also strongly believe it was a mistake not to do Judge Death. If the BBC can bring Davros to life on Dr Who's budget then it should be possible to adapt the first Judge Death story on the budget you have. Death is a quirky enough character that he could have got the film an audience with vampire/zombie film fans. Of course he would get in the way of the straight laced cop film the producers wanted to make.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 05 May, 2016, 02:32:45 PM
Quote from: Will Cooling on 05 May, 2016, 01:58:57 PM
I also strongly believe it was a mistake not to do Judge Death.

I strongly believe you're wrong.

The problem with Death isn't budget, or any technical limitation. There's a crucial difference between Death and, say, the Joker: the Joker is the anti-Batman. They're opposing forces, and the clash between them is the distillation of drama — it's instant and immediate. Death is Dredd — he's Dredd pushed those couple of extreme steps further and, as such, he presents two* problems:

1) He's not that interesting, because Dredd's not that interesting.

2) The audience has to understand Dredd before they can understand Death. From a structural point of view, that makes him very difficult to introduce to a first film.

Cheers

Jim

*A third, of course, being that he is, essentially, very silly.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 05 May, 2016, 03:08:21 PM
I'm also not sure the film was lacking in black humour and satire. It certainly wasn't in your face, but there were some great lines lobbed into the mix, some suitably crazed violence, and little throwaway things such as the tannoy noting the food court would be open soon while a little automated droid diligently mopped up all the blood. As for The Raid, I don't think it was confused at all — I just saw a lot of critics wrongly making the assumption the basic plot for Dredd had been cloned from The Raid (despite the reverse being more likely).

The futuristic angle is the only major difference I saw between Dredd and Judge Dredd. But even though that was in part down to budget, I liked the 30 seconds into the future angle, rather than it being more like a dystopian take on Star Trek. That level of 'realism' seems also quite at home when you look at post-Pit Dredd, rather than making comparisons with much earlier fare. (It was also interesting to see people complaining — mostly in the US — about the violence, because Dredd actually shows what happens when people get shot and killed. It's not nice. People tend to forget about that when Marvel characters are merrily butchering 'bad guys' without a second thought.)

As for Death, I tend to agree with Jim. If it had been done, it would have needed significantly more set-up than you get in what's effectively an introduction to Dredd's world. Groundwork was laid for other-wordly elements with Anderson, though, and had Dredd been a hit, you can imagine Death would have appeared at some point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steven Sterlacchini on 05 May, 2016, 05:52:04 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 03 May, 2016, 10:49:42 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 03 May, 2016, 01:52:12 AM
I wonder do they also have the audio-visual rights to use the DREDD designs and content established by DNA and IMGlobal - do they need to redesign them somewhat or start anew?

Redesigning everything would add to the costs of production- hardly something would be program makers would find desirable. $56 million for Dare Devil?! That is pretty damn steep!

It might be a lot 'cleaner' legally, to create a new version of the uniform.

I liked the DREDD version, so I think there is a lot they could take from it, and combined with the source material create something 'the same, but different' enough to avoid any possible legal blurring.

And considering the amount of props and costumes that were sold off after the film, they're probably going to have to make all new ones any way.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 05 May, 2016, 05:55:53 PM
Didn't Alex Garland say that he tried really hard to write Death as the villain, but ultimately abandoned the idea as he couldn't get it to work, for reasons Jim mentions, (and that's why Dredd faces off against four 'dark' judges at the end of the eventual film - the last vestige of a script draft that featured the Dark Judges)?

As for the whole Netflix thing, I suspect that they're already in very deep with Marvel, and probably wouldn't pick up another expensive comic book series on top of that commitment. I suppose it's possible that they'd look at financing a movie sequel, though with the majority of Dredd's creative team having long-since moved onto other projects, I'd be concerned about them nailing it like the 2012 movie did...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 05 May, 2016, 10:12:50 PM
I'm don't see Dredd as 'competition' though. If anything, it'd benefit Marvel by drawing or keeping subscribers into more adult oriented comic book fare.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 May, 2016, 10:28:25 PM
Quote from: radiator on 05 May, 2016, 05:55:53 PM
Didn't Alex Garland say that he tried really hard to write Death as the villain, but ultimately abandoned the idea as he couldn't get it to work, for reasons Jim mentions, (and that's why Dredd faces off against four 'dark' judges at the end of the eventual film - the last vestige of a script draft that featured the Dark Judges)?


John Wagner said in an interview it was someone at FOX who suggested not using Death as the villain in the first film.


As for the whole Netflix thing, I suspect that they're already in very deep with Marvel, and probably wouldn't pick up another expensive comic book series on top of that commitment. I suppose it's possible that they'd look at financing a movie sequel, though with the majority of Dredd's creative team having long-since moved onto other projects, I'd be concerned about them nailing it like the 2012 movie did...


Unlike House of Cards, it's Marvel and ABC who are producing and paying for the Marvel series, Netflix bought exclusive distribution rights, so it's basically the same company who make Agent Carter and Agents of Shield.




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 05 May, 2016, 10:32:28 PM
Quote from: radiator on 05 May, 2016, 05:55:53 PM
Didn't Alex Garland say that he tried really hard to write Death as the villain, but ultimately abandoned the idea as he couldn't get it to work, for reasons Jim mentions, (and that's why Dredd faces off against four 'dark' judges at the end of the eventual film - the last vestige of a script draft that featured the Dark Judges)?



John Wagner said in an interview it was someone at FOX Studios who suggested not using Death as the villain in the first film. Having a supernatural vllain in the first of an intended Dredd franchise feels wrong.

Quote from: radiator on 05 May, 2016, 05:55:53 PMAs for the whole Netflix thing, I suspect that they're already in very deep with Marvel, and probably wouldn't pick up another expensive comic book series on top of that commitment. I suppose it's possible that they'd look at financing a movie sequel, though with the majority of Dredd's creative team having long-since moved onto other projects, I'd be concerned about them nailing it like the 2012 movie did...


Unlike House of Cards, it's Marvel and ABC who are producing and paying for the Marvel series, Netflix bought exclusive distribution rights, so it's basically the same company who make Agent Carter and Agents of Shield.




Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 06 May, 2016, 08:36:31 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 05 May, 2016, 10:28:25 PM
Unlike House of Cards, it's Marvel and ABC who are producing and paying for the Marvel series, Netflix bought exclusive distribution rights, so it's basically the same company who make Agent Carter and Agents of Shield.

You can keep on saying this, but no-one ever seems to listen.

The script seems stuck on "Netflix should make it, just like they make their Marvel shows!"
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 06 May, 2016, 12:55:14 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/06/netflix-amazon-sci-fi-streaming-reboots-dredd-hulk (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/06/netflix-amazon-sci-fi-streaming-reboots-dredd-hulk)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 06 May, 2016, 01:10:04 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 May, 2016, 12:55:14 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/06/netflix-amazon-sci-fi-streaming-reboots-dredd-hulk (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/06/netflix-amazon-sci-fi-streaming-reboots-dredd-hulk)

Entirely fact-free clickbait list more appropriate for Buzzfeed than the website of a national newspaper.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 06 May, 2016, 04:57:42 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 May, 2016, 12:55:14 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/06/netflix-amazon-sci-fi-streaming-reboots-dredd-hulk (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/06/netflix-amazon-sci-fi-streaming-reboots-dredd-hulk)

That's great, Goaty! Maybe Netflix could make a Dredd TV show for our Karl. After all, they're making four Marvel shows - why not Dredd too!


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 06 May, 2016, 05:28:48 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 06 May, 2016, 01:10:04 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 May, 2016, 12:55:14 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/06/netflix-amazon-sci-fi-streaming-reboots-dredd-hulk (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/06/netflix-amazon-sci-fi-streaming-reboots-dredd-hulk)

Entirely fact-free clickbait list more appropriate for Buzzfeed than the website of a national newspaper.

Cheers

Jim

The author obviously also isn't aware that a TV series reboot of His Dark Materials is currently in production, at the BBC.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 06 May, 2016, 05:38:34 PM
Maybe he thinks Whittingdale will kill the BBC before it gets to screen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: GordonR on 06 May, 2016, 06:26:20 PM
Quote from: radiator on 06 May, 2016, 05:28:48 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 06 May, 2016, 01:10:04 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 May, 2016, 12:55:14 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/06/netflix-amazon-sci-fi-streaming-reboots-dredd-hulk (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/06/netflix-amazon-sci-fi-streaming-reboots-dredd-hulk)

Entirely fact-free clickbait list more appropriate for Buzzfeed than the website of a national newspaper.

Cheers

Jim

The author obviously also isn't aware that a TV series reboot of His Dark Materials is currently in production, at the BBC.

It's almost as if the article's author has absolutely no idea or industry insider info about what they're talking about.

So, yeah, pretty much your average Buzzfeed piece, then.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 May, 2016, 07:11:14 AM
More positive stuff from Karl.

DEN OF GEEK INTERVIEW (http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/karl-urban/40596/karl-urban-interview-dredd-dredd-2)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 12 May, 2016, 08:31:16 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 May, 2016, 07:11:14 AM
More positive stuff from Karl.

DEN OF GEEK INTERVIEW (http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/karl-urban/40596/karl-urban-interview-dredd-dredd-2)
It's amazing what they did for a production budget under $30 million.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 12 May, 2016, 03:34:25 PM
"It was ahead of its time, but not by much. The recent success of Deadpool has demonstrated a strong audience demand for R-rated graphic novel films."

I finally saw Deadpool last night. Curious how that did so well compared to Dredd. I suppose the Marvel banner does the job, and the somewhat cartoonish nature of the script. Interesting, though, that people appeared to be more horrified by the violence in Dredd than Deadpool (despite the latter being a psycho going around slicing people up he deems to be 'bad guys' vs the former, which is a cop doing his job in a hostile future).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JamesC on 12 May, 2016, 03:41:44 PM
Tone has a lot to do with it I think.
Also, Deadpool had a more bankable lead (no disrespect to the fantastic Mr Urban, just the way it is) and a phenomenally successful social media campaign pre-release.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 12 May, 2016, 04:59:43 PM
Well Ryan got many flop films to his name.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 May, 2016, 09:32:45 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 May, 2016, 04:59:43 PM
Well Ryan got many flop films to his name.

Success is elusive. Ryan has indeed had a series of fairly mediocre to poor Movies as did Keanu Reeves before the Matrix. Though you could say that was the high point of Keanu's career none the less he's had a career which for an actor can be considered a triumph in itself. Look at the recent Ghostbuster's film which appears to be destined to be busted at the Box Office or Fantastic flop 4. Nobody sets out to make bad Movie but it happens and for the Actors concerned there might be little they can do since the Producers/Directors usually have the last say and edit. Film making, far as I can tell is such a fraught creative process that 'creative differences' and personality clashes are almost inevitable. How can you handle that pressure? Ah yes that's the $64 million dollar question. Does help if the people you've hired are partially sane of course but if their not going to meet you even part of the way than it's a matter of achieving what you can with whatever you've been handed.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 14 May, 2016, 03:32:48 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 May, 2016, 09:32:45 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 12 May, 2016, 04:59:43 PM
Well Ryan got many flop films to his name.
Success is elusive. Ryan has indeed had a series of fairly mediocre to poor Movies as did Keanu Reeves before the Matrix.
U wot mate? Bill & Ted; Point Break; My Own Private Idaho; Speed (ok, I'll give you that one.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 May, 2016, 07:55:08 PM
 
U wot mate? Bill & Ted; Point Break; My Own Private Idaho; Speed (ok, I'll give you that one.)
[/quote]

Alright they weren't that bad but I remember Keanu saying he felt his Film career was cursed and I wrote too much into that. Johnny Mnemonic is pretty dire though.   
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 16 May, 2016, 05:08:13 PM
Submitted without comment

https://www.facebook.com/2000AD/photos/a.153563506365.125462.146588986365/10153508133101366/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 May, 2016, 05:11:21 PM
I bet they talked about horse riding for the new Xena series.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 16 May, 2016, 05:12:14 PM
Not ashamed to admit how much I love Karl Urban right now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 May, 2016, 05:28:23 PM
Awesome.

Karl is big teaser!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 16 May, 2016, 05:32:16 PM
He's asking for Michael Carroll's home address to have a word with him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 May, 2016, 05:38:47 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 16 May, 2016, 05:32:16 PM
He's asking for Michael Carroll's home address to have a word with him.

That I believe.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SIP on 16 May, 2016, 09:57:12 PM
Surprised there hasn't been much comment on this. Surely something to potentially get excited about?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 16 May, 2016, 10:35:10 PM
Quote from: SIP on 16 May, 2016, 09:57:12 PM
Surprised there hasn't been much comment on this. Surely something to potentially get excited about?

The disappointment is easier to deal with if you don't get your hopes to high to begin with. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 May, 2016, 11:01:39 PM
That's probably because most of the fans are not on here now. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Tumblr, etc... is where everyone is hoping for something.

The film brought Dredd into new fans lives and I'd say 99.9% won't frequent here for whatever reason.

As soon as that photo was posted it spread like wildfire in the places I looked.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 16 May, 2016, 11:06:07 PM
Karl is a freaking legend, the amount of effort he puts into pushing for a possible Dredd film/ tv series, the man has my utmost respect. :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 May, 2016, 11:53:46 PM
Yeah Medias start pick up on it. Little sample of Karl as Dredd again would get it crazier as Deadpool did with tested footage!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 17 May, 2016, 08:22:55 AM
What a guy.

I'm so very, very excited right now but don't want to get my hopes up too much.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 17 May, 2016, 09:14:12 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 May, 2016, 05:11:21 PM
I bet they talked about horse riding for the new Xena series.

"So Karl, how are you coping with the horse riding again?"
"In ancient mythological Greece... I don't need horses... "

Wings unfurl from shoulders...


Sorry. When you mentioned Xena, I got that amusing Cupid image. I remember him as the character in Xena but never realised it was the same guy until it was pointed out much later.

But this bodes well, even if he did just come round for a chat.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 17 May, 2016, 09:49:27 AM
(https://frinkiac.com/gifmaker/S11E04/558360/558360)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 17 May, 2016, 09:50:35 AM
Lets try that again
(https://frinkiac.com/meme/S11E04/558360.jpg?b64lines=IFdISUxFIFJJRElORyBBIFdJTkdFRAogQVBQQUxPT1NBIFlFVCBJTiBUSEUgVkVSWQogTkVYVCBTQ0VORSwgTVkgREVBUgogWU9VJ1JFIENMRUFSTFkgQVRPUCBBCiBXSU5HRUQgQVJBQklBTi4=)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Radbacker on 17 May, 2016, 01:30:58 PM
Holy shit, how young are the Kingsly's he looks about 10 years younger than me :( and hiom and his brother own 2000AD that's called winning my friends winning :)

Would really like to see something come out of this, I think the Netflix series idea is a winner or self funded movie, once they make their billion boom anther MARVEL Studios right there and all that wonderful back catalogue just waiting to be made (Rogue Trooper comes to mind as something that would be cinematically awesome, or a Nikolai Dante series, ABC Warriors could show the Transformers crowd how robots should be done).  But first more Dredd please.

CU Radbacker
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 May, 2016, 02:13:31 PM
So any update about yesterday visit?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 May, 2016, 02:26:24 PM
Didn't you get the email?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 17 May, 2016, 02:37:44 PM
I did – just a shame I'm away for the audition dates. Gutted.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 May, 2016, 02:40:33 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 May, 2016, 02:26:24 PM
Didn't you get the email?

No? What email?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 17 May, 2016, 02:43:11 PM
I think I might have to rearrange to make the dates. Its not an opportunity that comes around often
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 May, 2016, 03:15:01 PM
Am I only one not get email? :(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 17 May, 2016, 03:19:31 PM
No, I didn't get an e-mail either.

Well I got lots of e-mails, just not *that* e-mail.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 May, 2016, 03:37:18 PM
Oops, pretend you never saw that :-X
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 17 May, 2016, 03:50:50 PM
What? What is it? What email?

Okay. It's a wind up. I get it.

Cruel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 May, 2016, 05:08:14 PM
Bastards...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 May, 2016, 05:15:00 PM
I'm here all day and night  :wave:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 May, 2016, 10:59:21 AM
http://entertainment.ie/tv/news/Heres-why-Dredd-is-perfect-for-a-Netflix-TV-series/381060.htm (http://entertainment.ie/tv/news/Heres-why-Dredd-is-perfect-for-a-Netflix-TV-series/381060.htm)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 19 May, 2016, 11:58:09 AM
If only just one of these articles would deal with the elephant in the room: funding the thing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 19 May, 2016, 01:03:15 PM
If only they could redirect all of the micro-income generated by the millions of clickbait articles about a Dredd sequel being perfect for Netflix or a Kickstarter and Karl being in talks with someone who hasn't actually got the power to make a mover, we'd have enough money to fund a movie set in a proper Mega-City One.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 19 May, 2016, 01:48:06 PM
If only we could bottle some of this enthusiasm.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 19 May, 2016, 08:48:54 PM
Who actually puts up the money for this sort of TV series? Advertisers? Investment groups? Who?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 May, 2016, 09:11:25 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 19 May, 2016, 08:48:54 PM
Who actually puts up the money for this sort of TV series? Advertisers? Investment groups? Who?

Anybody who's interested. Netflix funded House of Cards. Marvel/ABC funded all Marvel TV shows.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 20 May, 2016, 02:28:05 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 May, 2016, 09:11:25 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 19 May, 2016, 08:48:54 PM
Who actually puts up the money for this sort of TV series? Advertisers? Investment groups? Who?

Anybody who's interested. Netflix funded House of Cards. Marvel/ABC funded all Marvel TV shows.

So what are you saying here Joe?  Netflix didn't fund Daredevil and Jessica Jones?  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 May, 2016, 07:15:51 PM
Karl Urban has a role in Thor Ragnarok.

I expect there will be a helmet involved.


http://marvel.com/news/movies/26203/marvel_studios_confirms_stellar_new_cast_members_of_the_highly_anticipated_thor_ragnarok?linkId=24717779 (http://marvel.com/news/movies/26203/marvel_studios_confirms_stellar_new_cast_members_of_the_highly_anticipated_thor_ragnarok?linkId=24717779)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 May, 2016, 07:34:11 PM


Both Dredds are now in the Marvel Universe.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 May, 2016, 07:55:09 PM
Hah, oh yeah...

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 May, 2016, 08:41:19 PM
That's good to hear👍
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 May, 2016, 09:16:55 PM
Good for him! He been Viking and Horseman so it's finest role for him.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 21 May, 2016, 09:26:38 AM
I've read Karl Urban's playing Skurge a thuggish Super villain. DREDD was perfect training for that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 04 June, 2016, 11:33:50 PM
I'd be surprised if this hasn't been posted already, but if it has I missed it.

Predator is on the TV and I got a hankering to revisit those "Arnie the musical" vids on YouTube - looks like the lads have been busy as there's a lot of new ones including Make Dredd II (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZrsJsvL30g)

(The Hunger Games/Running Man mash up is fun too)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 05 June, 2016, 11:20:40 AM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 04 June, 2016, 11:33:50 PM
I'd be surprised if this hasn't been posted already, but if it has I missed it.

Predator is on the TV and I got a hankering to revisit those "Arnie the musical" vids on YouTube - looks like the lads have been busy as there's a lot of new ones including Make Dredd II (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZrsJsvL30g)
(The Hunger Games/Running Man mash up is fun too)

Dredd 2 -the Musical! It could work if we offer free drugs to the punters! Great find Dandontdare.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 June, 2016, 01:58:09 PM
Yeah, that was posted a while back. That's one of the problems with this thread, it swallows everything up :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 05 June, 2016, 04:19:14 PM
I thought it must've been - but I wasn't checking 860 pages!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 June, 2016, 04:30:14 PM
 :D

Get to 1,000, and there will be Dredd Netflix!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 June, 2016, 04:49:34 PM
Obviously poor Goaty didn't read an interview with Karl the other day about TV series and working on them.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 June, 2016, 06:10:42 PM
Well I been off on honeymoon...

So Karl still not did 2000AD pod? So no details about his visit to 2000AD HQ?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 June, 2016, 06:28:54 PM
The internet is always on. You should be watching constantly  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 June, 2016, 06:37:00 PM
Not with Judge Hershey as the wife.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 06 June, 2016, 09:28:54 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 05 June, 2016, 06:10:42 PM
Well I been off on honeymoon...

So Karl still not did 2000AD pod? So no details about his visit to 2000AD HQ?

No, there's been no other news other than it being early days etc.

I wouldn't have expected a podcast anyway, that sort of thing could be done over Skype.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 07 June, 2016, 07:20:47 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 05 June, 2016, 06:10:42 PM
Well I been off on honeymoon...

Allow me to congratulate the new couple: Judge and Mr Hershey!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 21 June, 2016, 11:12:20 AM
Something for the naysayers to dig into. http://sciencefiction.com/2016/06/20/denver-comic-con-2016-karl-urban-confirms-judge-dredd-2/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 June, 2016, 02:09:36 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 21 June, 2016, 04:03:18 PM
Oh it's on
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 21 June, 2016, 04:12:38 PM
Why has thris thread not exploded?!

Karl Urban has virtually confirmed we are getting a Dredd sequel?!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NapalmKev on 21 June, 2016, 04:16:48 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 21 June, 2016, 04:12:38 PM
Why has thris thread not exploded?!

Karl Urban has virtually confirmed we are getting a Dredd sequel?!

Cautious optimism rather than flag-waving certainty.

Cheers
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 21 June, 2016, 04:18:46 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 21 June, 2016, 04:12:38 PM
Karl Urban has virtually confirmed we are getting a Dredd sequel?!

Really? Someone, somewhere, is working on a treatment for a script? Christ, it could be Scojo. No finance, no distribution, not even any idea whether it'd be online, TV, cinema, street theatre with mimes? Gotta give Urban credit for keeping some kind of buzz going about the property, but this doesn't actually tell us anything. (Who, for example, is developing this story idea?)

Cheers

Jim
Title: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 21 June, 2016, 04:32:40 PM
He's just saying the same thing he's been saying for a couple of years now. 'discussions happening' etc.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 21 June, 2016, 05:04:44 PM
Quote from: radiator on 21 June, 2016, 04:32:40 PM
He's just saying the same thing he's been saying for a couple of years now. 'discussions happening' etc.

So do you on here for couple of years now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: HdE on 21 June, 2016, 05:08:17 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 21 June, 2016, 04:18:46 PM

Really? Someone, somewhere, is working on a treatment for a script? Christ, it could be Scojo.

People say this a lot on the web, but I just very literally sprayed a mouthful of water I was swilling when I read this. I now haz soggy laptop.

Mind you, I'll say this: I'm cool with a Scojo penned Dredd sequel IF we can also get a new Star Wars movie by that CyberMaster MkIII or whatever his name was - you know, the guy who had the 'exclusive info' on all the as-then-unmade Star Wars movies circa the early 2000s. They all ended with the arch baddie being sliced in half lengthways with a lightsaber, and certainly were NOT his own fan fiction.

(One of them even killed off Han Solo, if I remember right. What a GREAT idea that was!)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 21 June, 2016, 05:17:06 PM
Quote from: radiator on 21 June, 2016, 04:32:40 PM
He's just saying the same thing he's been saying for a couple of years now. 'discussions happening' etc.

Last I heard Netflix wanted to do the sequel, but I may have dreamt that.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 21 June, 2016, 05:36:04 PM
Quote from: von Boom on 21 June, 2016, 05:17:06 PM
Last I heard Netflix wanted to do the sequel, but I may have dreamt that.

Lots have people have said Netflix should. To the best of my knowledge, none of those people work at/for Netflix, or have the clout to make such a thing happen.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Woolly on 21 June, 2016, 06:04:53 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 21 June, 2016, 11:12:20 AM
Something for the naysayers to dig into. http://sciencefiction.com/2016/06/20/denver-comic-con-2016-karl-urban-confirms-judge-dredd-2/

Considering the article doesn't quote exactly what Karl Urban has said, I'm going to assume that no deal has been made and that any possible distributor is just wanting to know more about what they would be distributing.

Also..
QuoteYou heard that right. Or at least, they are developing the story for it. After that, they are determining the right platform, be it Netflix, Amazon, a TV Series, or another movie.

..suggests to me that any Dredd sequel/series is still only at the pitching stage, and definately hasn't been picked up by any network/studio.

Annoyingly, all this now makes me a nay-sayer! Bah! ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 21 June, 2016, 07:56:24 PM
Quote from: HdE on 21 June, 2016, 05:08:17 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 21 June, 2016, 04:18:46 PM

Really? Someone, somewhere, is working on a treatment for a script? Christ, it could be Scojo.


Mind you, I'll say this: I'm cool with a Scojo penned Dredd sequel IF we can also get a new Star Wars movie by that CyberMaster MkIII or whatever his name was - you know, the guy who had the 'exclusive info' on all the as-then-unmade Star Wars movies circa the early 2000s. They all ended with the arch baddie being sliced in half lengthways with a lightsaber, and certainly were NOT his own fan fiction.

(One of them even killed off Han Solo, if I remember right. What a GREAT idea that was!)

I'm still waiting for the mega bucks blockbuster of Django Zoom: The Straightener (that was the name wasn't it?)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 21 June, 2016, 08:04:21 PM
Dredd sequel news is like catnip to me!

Bring it on!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 21 June, 2016, 08:27:15 PM
Dredd 2 rumours are only ever going to be rumours...

We'll know it is on  (if it ever is) by the source we hear it from. After all at the moment it is Rebellion in charge of it. Pretty sure they will give an exclusive out to one of the sites they trust as soon as there is news - then put out a Press Release.

I certainly won't get the exclusive but I will get the Press Release (assuming I am home). ECBT2000AD will get that too. So that's at least two sites run by Forum members that'll be publishing real news.

Then there is the fact that Michael Molcher will put an Announcement up on the Forum...

In the mean time rely on Jim Campbell and Joe Soap to shoot down any loony toon rumours.

Of course I am sadly waiting patiently hoping for a rumour that sounds real...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bat King on 21 June, 2016, 11:05:39 PM
I just remembered that bluemeanie isn't active on here these days. Several of the contributors to ECBT are though so I guess my original point remains the same...
Title: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 22 June, 2016, 08:23:40 AM
Early stages is still progress. It's gone from 'never going to happen' to 'we want it to happen' to 'it could happen'. In development means someone somewhere is paying for a treatment at least. I'm going to continue seeing this as a positive step :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 June, 2016, 08:45:56 AM
I'm in the positive camp, as we're on the first step of a very long road.

We are 1% of the way to seeing Dredd back on the screen and that makes me happy :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 22 June, 2016, 09:09:30 AM
Urban on Twitter 10 mins ago...

QuoteDredd update : Unfortunately a sequel is no closer to happening , options have been discussed but there is no sequel in " development " .
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 22 June, 2016, 09:14:09 AM
This news makes me unhappy. Bring me better news
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 22 June, 2016, 10:30:57 AM
Ha I was tweet him last night, that's nice reply. I expect that to happens, as he only not involve in pre-productions as for story writing, budget, planning. As he will be busy at moment with Thor 3 filming (his beard give you a clue!) he know it will happens. Keep positive, if rush it up, it would be soulless sequel. It can happens.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 22 June, 2016, 10:39:32 AM
Ah well..bonfire pissed on  :D

https://mobile.twitter.com/KarlUrban/status/745526376682266624?lang=en
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 22 June, 2016, 05:55:22 PM
It's really best not to get excited about a sequel until you are sitting down in the cinema about to watch it. Up until that point, don't believe it's  happening.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 22 June, 2016, 05:59:03 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 22 June, 2016, 05:55:22 PM
It's really best not to get excited about a sequel until you are sitting down in the cinema about to watch it. Up until that point, don't believe it's  happening.

Or sat infront of the tube watching it on Netflix or Amazon Prime!!!!   :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 June, 2016, 06:40:40 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 22 June, 2016, 05:55:22 PM
It's really best not to get excited about a sequel until you are sitting down in the cinema about to watch it. Up until that point, don't believe it's  happening.

I'd hope the director wouldn't take that approach.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 June, 2016, 06:59:58 PM
Anyway if Karl's not up for it, sure we can make do.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13524514_10157074118420427_572471156324129509_n.jpg?oh=b89eb22c69a53350783626ec90231adb&oe=57FB9F7A)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 June, 2016, 07:02:22 PM
That's why he should never take the helmet off!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 22 June, 2016, 07:04:54 PM
That's how the clones in the 1995 film turned out before the scene was cut.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 June, 2016, 03:40:52 PM
More of that "in development" news from Rebellion Chief.


We have confirmation of that here at Pocket-lint; development definitely hasn't started. But we can reveal that talks are ongoing about a Dredd sequel and/or a full Dredd TV series.

Dredd 2 movie or TV series possible

We caught up with Jason Kingsley at the recent E3 videogames expo in Los Angeles. He is co-founder and CEO of Rebellion which, as well as make games like the forthcoming Sniper Elite 4 and Battlezone, owns and publishes 2000ad. He also had approval over many of the props and details during the filming of Dredd 3D, and he talked candidly with us about the status of the Dredd movie and TV prospects.

"We really want to get more TV stuff made and movie stuff made. There's stuff happening in the background that's really exciting," he told us. "We're a long way from anything announcing, but we're working hard on that."


It is the TV show idea that is the more likely route to bring Dredd back to our screens, something that Kingsley thinks would work wonderfully.

"Dredd's world deserves a TV show. Several probably. Several box sets, actually. Six at least," he partly joked, although the idea certainly appeals.

"You could tell so many stories. There are so many brilliant epics. You could imagine one series of Dredd doing another Cursed Earth run."

Karl Urban is Dredd

Kingsley also confirmed that, should Dredd come back to our screens, big or small, Urban is still first choice to be the lead.

"Karl's a great guy, we know him well," he said.

"He's a big 2000ad fan - a genuine 2000ad fan. People say they're a 2000ad fan but you ask them about details and they start to go all twitchy. Karl though is genuine. I think he brought that to the character, his childhood interpretation of it."

The likelihood of hearing anything about the Dredd show or Dredd 2 in the coming weeks is slim. But at least we now know it is a real possibility.


http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/138047-dredd-tv-show-for-netflix-amazon-or-hbo-exciting-stuff-happening-in-the-background
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 23 June, 2016, 03:46:45 PM
Nice :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 23 June, 2016, 04:20:02 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 22 June, 2016, 09:14:09 AM
This news makes me unhappy. Bring me better news

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 June, 2016, 03:40:52 PM
More of that "in development" news from Rebellion Chief.
...

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/138047-dredd-tv-show-for-netflix-amazon-or-hbo-exciting-stuff-happening-in-the-background

Thank you. I'm happy again now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rately on 23 June, 2016, 04:31:44 PM
Bit optimistic after reading that.

Hopefully, fingers crossed, we do get to see Karl Urban don the helmet again, be it on big screen or small. He was fantastic in the movie and hopefully we get to see him face off with Rico, Dark Judges, PJ etc. in not too distant future.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 23 June, 2016, 04:39:43 PM
I've gone from dejection to elation in a day!

It's like being in a particularly stormy relationship!!!!!!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 23 June, 2016, 08:16:18 PM
Here's hoping.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 23 June, 2016, 08:36:04 PM
'Lost in development hell' is a well worn Hollywood line but at least there appears to be some sort of interest in the Dredd property and that can only be welcome news. Some sort of discussions have taken place perhaps just to confirm who actually owns the Dredd property/licenses etc and what their future intentions with it are. I wouldn't get your hopes up to high as so much depends on factors we know little about. After all it could be a cartoon series Dredd which although entertaining is probably a big 'Nyet' [ 'No!' in Russian you Imperialist Dogs] for twoothy boarders.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 29 June, 2016, 04:49:50 PM
Adi Shankar's been put back in his box.

http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3396452/dredd-owner-harsh-words-film-producer/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 30 June, 2016, 12:11:37 PM
Quote from: Rusty on 29 June, 2016, 04:49:50 PM
Adi Shankar's been put back in his box.

http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3396452/dredd-owner-harsh-words-film-producer/
Hope his tears don't make his eyeliner run.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 July, 2016, 02:11:02 PM
Quote
When we ran into Urban at the the Star Trek Beyond premiere, we asked him if he was still interested in pursuing a Dredd series on Netflix, Amazon, or Hulu.


"Yeah, I've gone on record saying that I would. Absolutely," Urban told ComicBook.com at the Star Trek Beyond premiere. "I mean, what's clear to me is that there is an audience demand to see more and if we can find a way to have a legitimate and worthy successor to Dredd. I'd love to be a part of it. You know, it would have to be something where we were focused on Dredd and coming to sort of understand the deeper inner workings of the character, otherwise there wouldn't be much point doing it because it's a huge challenge to play a character whose eyes you can't see. We'll see. I'm sure it will get made at some point. Whether it's with me or not, I don't know."


http://comicbook.com/2016/07/16/karl-urban-still-intrested-in-judge-dredd-series-on-streaming-si/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 16 July, 2016, 02:39:37 PM
Still keeping the dream alive, which is great!

I really hope it's Urban in any follow up, he's pretty much made the role his own.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 17 July, 2016, 10:20:15 PM
Still great title opening on the film.

Comments when watch the film on C4?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 July, 2016, 02:39:47 PM

"There's certainly enough interested parties working away to one degree or another. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point there's more Dredd." - Karl Urban

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZlv0G3gAY4



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 18 July, 2016, 03:29:02 PM
From Karl on Twitter:

QuoteHey guys I'm doing a Twitter Q&A today at 4pm ET. Be sure to send in your questions with #AskKarlUrban
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 18 July, 2016, 04:53:54 PM
Quote from: Banners on 18 July, 2016, 03:29:02 PM
From Karl on Twitter:

QuoteHey guys I'm doing a Twitter Q&A today at 4pm ET. Be sure to send in your questions with #AskKarlUrban

Not on Twitter myself, but for those who are, let's show our support and get those Dredd related questions in!!!!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 18 July, 2016, 09:26:26 PM
Urban does Dredd. (http://twitter.com/KarlUrban/status/755135007497261057?s=09)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 18 July, 2016, 09:36:41 PM
 :lol:

Gotta love the bloke!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 July, 2016, 09:40:06 AM
http://loaded.co.uk/karl-urban-dredd-2-dark-judges/ (http://loaded.co.uk/karl-urban-dredd-2-dark-judges/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Colin YNWA on 19 July, 2016, 09:23:17 PM
We're Loaded still exists so I guess anything is possible!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 01 August, 2016, 06:25:13 PM
After watching Star Trek: Beyond the missus has finally decided she would like to see Dredd.
And so it begins  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 August, 2016, 06:31:09 PM
I am sure it nothing but Carlos and John meet this guy for dinner in Soho...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Combh9gW8AEa9yA.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Banners on 01 August, 2016, 06:40:46 PM
Edgar Wright's writing the sequel then?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 August, 2016, 06:52:47 PM
So the meeting has been shown on the web. Nearly no more need for :-X then ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 01 August, 2016, 06:57:17 PM
Oooh! Oooh!

To soon to get excited? 😳
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 01 August, 2016, 07:00:36 PM
*Too

See that's how excited I was!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 01 August, 2016, 07:35:04 PM
Wonder what is the name of that restaurant? Remember Peach Trees 😉
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 01 August, 2016, 08:46:38 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 01 August, 2016, 07:35:04 PM
Wonder what is the name of that restaurant? Remember Peach Trees 😉

Soho? The Drokk and Stripper or the Randy Perp?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 01 August, 2016, 08:50:39 PM
Soho's not quite so much like that now, anyway this board got a proper Dredd  film made and we'll do it again!











(our descendants will in 2199, maybe, perhaps.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 01 August, 2016, 08:53:22 PM
Quote from: Zarjazzer on 01 August, 2016, 08:50:39 PM
Soho's not quite so much like that now, anyway this board got a proper Dredd  film made and we'll do it again!

That's the spirit!!!  :thumbsup:










(our descendants will in 2199, maybe, perhaps.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 02 August, 2016, 10:50:38 AM
They met to discuss a comic adaptation of 'Spaced'. Carlos is writing and John is illustrating.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 02 August, 2016, 11:26:29 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 02 August, 2016, 10:50:38 AM
They met to discuss a comic adaptation of 'Spaced'. Carlos is writing and John is illustrating.


Well we had a Shaun Of The Dead strip in the Prog, so anything's possible!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheridan on 02 August, 2016, 01:19:33 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 01 August, 2016, 07:35:04 PM
Wonder what is the name of that restaurant? Remember Peach Trees 😉
Very distinctive ceiling but plain lights - should help in locating it in Soho (all concept restaurants and fancy lighting!)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 August, 2016, 04:00:24 PM
There's a better photo up now of the meeting, if people want to check where it was at.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 02 August, 2016, 04:04:34 PM
Edgar Wright can do no wrong. Assuming this was more than just a chance meeting at a con and a friendly catch-up, I'd be very happy for Wright to have involvement in a potential Dredd project (or SD for that matter) The man is a clear fan.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 August, 2016, 04:54:19 PM
It wasn't by chance :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 August, 2016, 05:08:45 PM
Do tell, John.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 August, 2016, 05:29:11 PM
It's not for me to say but I'll tell you this, you should've come along to the Southern Contingent Gathering, as this meeting was foretold with added oomph ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 August, 2016, 05:40:03 PM
I know I can't go last 16th July as got plans but what happens in there?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 02 August, 2016, 06:05:06 PM
Sounds very inriguing!

Too soon to get excited?  :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 02 August, 2016, 06:14:02 PM
Surely it was because Wright knows Pegg who is a committed toothy fan. I can't read into it anything more than that and as for them meeting in Soho isn't that part of London renowned by those in the entertainment field as somewhere to meet others of their ilk? A chance meeting therefore.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 August, 2016, 06:29:48 PM
This was not a chance meeting. If it was, how was it known by a few others not in that picture over a month beforehand.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 August, 2016, 07:02:31 PM
So what the news? New comic series?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 03 August, 2016, 08:30:11 AM
Something, what? What am I missing here?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 03 August, 2016, 10:19:41 AM
Edgar Wright is best known for his comedy movies Shaun of the Dead, Scott Pilgrim vs the world. But isn't Hot Fuzz also a social satire with murderously stuffy Country folk meeting a City wise Metro Cop? Some of Judge Dredd's best stories in both 2000 AD and the Megazine are satires on modernity, social issues or the frailty of the human condition. Lots of potential material there for some Director/Writer to get his teeth into. Am I getting warm or am I frozen on Titan facing a 40 year stretch?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 04 August, 2016, 07:54:24 PM
I'm sure they'll say something when they're ready.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 05 August, 2016, 12:09:23 PM
Oh, this was the thing John Wagner mentioned at Glasgow then ;o)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 05 August, 2016, 12:10:47 PM
What he said?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 05 August, 2016, 01:04:25 PM
If CF can't tell you, I can't.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 05 August, 2016, 02:50:15 PM
I was just kidding. He never actually said anything. Well, not to me anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 05 September, 2016, 02:49:27 AM
When Urban met Judge Death!

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/judge_dredd/fan-art-imagines-karl-urbans-judge-dredd-vs-judge-death-a144957
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 05 September, 2016, 07:41:45 AM
Doug Jones would be perfect for Judge Death.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 05 September, 2016, 10:37:50 AM
Bit of the Dave Kendall Judge Death there.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 16 September, 2016, 05:48:35 PM
Has anyone seen that new Amazon advert which uses the song played in the drug bust scene in Dredd?

I took it as a personal affront for some reason.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 16 September, 2016, 06:13:34 PM
Quote from: Spaceghost on 16 September, 2016, 05:48:35 PM
Has anyone seen that new Amazon advert which uses the song played in the drug bust scene in Dredd?

I took it as a personal affront for some reason.
No I have not.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 16 September, 2016, 07:09:38 PM
Quote from: Spaceghost on 16 September, 2016, 05:48:35 PM
Has anyone seen that new Amazon advert which uses the song played in the drug bust scene in Dredd?

I took it as a personal affront for some reason.

Maybe it's an ever so subtle tease of an Amazon Prime series!

If that's the case though, they should of had Otto Sump delivering the parcels and not stick thin models!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 September, 2016, 08:50:23 PM
Quote from: Spaceghost on 16 September, 2016, 05:48:35 PMHas anyone seen that new Amazon advert which uses the song played in the drug bust scene in Dredd?
As in Vitalic's Poison Lips? Great song (if not quite as perfect as the supreme Poney Part 1 and fantastic My Friend Dario).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: amines2058 on 16 September, 2016, 09:22:27 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 16 September, 2016, 08:50:23 PM
Quote from: Spaceghost on 16 September, 2016, 05:48:35 PMHas anyone seen that new Amazon advert which uses the song played in the drug bust scene in Dredd?
As in Vitalic's Poison Lips? Great song (if not quite as perfect as the supreme Poney Part 1 and fantastic My Friend Dario).

Recently discovered Vitalic, did not realise that was them in the movie. Love Poney part 1, also Second Lives.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 16 September, 2016, 09:42:32 PM
My brother told me that Dredd got great soundtrack as I dont know much cos I am deaf.

So production does do well on it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 20 September, 2016, 10:48:40 AM
Was there any scenes shot, but not included in the final film for DREDD?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 September, 2016, 11:05:34 AM
Just the one that we know of.

The opening in the script is different - Dredd shoots through the hostage to kill the perp. Some photos of it appeared online a while back.

That was shot in South Africa.

The 'hotshot' scene replacing it was shot in North London in Oriental City (now demolished)

Alex has said there weren't a lot of deleted scenes - in fact I think there's a shot that's used twice, just framed differently.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 20 September, 2016, 11:23:40 AM
When I interviewed him back in 2012, Alex said the situation with budget and resources was so tight that the film is 95 minutes long and they shot something like 97 minutes of footage, with some shots being used twice (notably the shot of inside of the lift mechanism, which is used and then later used backwards).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 20 September, 2016, 03:58:00 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 20 September, 2016, 11:05:34 AM
Just the one that we know of.

The opening in the script is different - Dredd shoots through the hostage to kill the perp. Some photos of it appeared online a while back.

That was shot in South Africa.

The 'hotshot' scene replacing it was shot in North London in Oriental City (now demolished)

Alex has said there weren't a lot of deleted scenes - in fact I think there's a shot that's used twice, just framed differently.
Do you know where I can find those pics?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 September, 2016, 04:22:47 PM
Quote from: Dreddzilla on 20 September, 2016, 03:58:00 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 20 September, 2016, 11:05:34 AM
Just the one that we know of.

The opening in the script is different - Dredd shoots through the hostage to kill the perp. Some photos of it appeared online a while back.

That was shot in South Africa.

The 'hotshot' scene replacing it was shot in North London in Oriental City (now demolished)

Alex has said there weren't a lot of deleted scenes - in fact I think there's a shot that's used twice, just framed differently.
Do you know where I can find those pics?


Here's a couple I found:

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/image_22.jpeg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/image_22.jpeg.html)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/image_23.jpeg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/image_23.jpeg.html)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 September, 2016, 04:38:18 PM
Yeah think those are the ones I saw.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 September, 2016, 05:20:29 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 20 September, 2016, 04:38:18 PM
Yeah think those are the ones I saw.

There might be more footage on those EPK's on Vimeo and the like Steve, but I confess to not having watched them all.

Was there anything in the script book?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 September, 2016, 06:09:39 PM
The entire scene in storyboard form is in the illustrated screenplay (http://shop.2000adonline.com/products/dredd_screenplay_hardback) book plus a few photos. Everything that was originally planned/shot for the film in South Africa is more or less in the book and in the film. The additions of the shopping centre shoot-out (to replace the street execution of Zwirner) and the inserts of Ma-Ma's heart bomb at the end were shot later in London. The making of Dredd was very much an additive process.


There's a few dozen or so photos for this scene -

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/IMG_1386_zpslwf9dvpy.jpg) (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/burlearth/media/IMG_1386_zpslwf9dvpy.jpg.html)

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/IMG_1387_zpsfz38cpdr.jpg) (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/burlearth/media/IMG_1387_zpsfz38cpdr.jpg.html)

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/IMG_1394_zpsl5xjo7yf.jpg) (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/burlearth/media/IMG_1394_zpsl5xjo7yf.jpg.html)

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/IMG_1378_zpsu7syvnkp.jpg) (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/burlearth/media/IMG_1378_zpsu7syvnkp.jpg.html)

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/IMG_1395_zps37bhrsfg.jpg) (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/burlearth/media/IMG_1395_zps37bhrsfg.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 September, 2016, 06:14:03 PM
Great work there!

Must have another gander at the illustrated screenplay again, it's a fantastic book!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 September, 2016, 06:17:09 PM
Be nice to get a special edition release one day with a Garland and Dod-Mantle commentary track!

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 September, 2016, 06:19:26 PM
Planet Replicas showed a few behind the scenes pics, like this squib test of the original hostage.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10392378_674452862590739_1445076987411211463_n.jpg?oh=2f17fac2db3dd45c543d86fcd68f6106&oe=587C3F1C)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 September, 2016, 06:19:30 PM
Oooh!
And an isolated Paul Leonard-Morgan music track!

Well I guy can dream!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 September, 2016, 07:05:37 PM
Isolated in what sense? Is the OST download not enough?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 September, 2016, 07:20:57 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 20 September, 2016, 07:05:37 PM
Isolated in what sense? Is the OST download not enough?

I've already got physical copies of the sound track-CD and Vinyl, but something like the Masters Of Cinema releas of Silent Running, which features an isolated soundtrack and effects track, just adds to the overall quality of the release.
Give it a UHD 4K release while they're at it!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 20 September, 2016, 08:53:56 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 20 September, 2016, 06:17:09 PM
Be nice to get a special edition release one day with a Garland and Dod-Mantle commentary track!

And trivia track!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 September, 2016, 09:27:57 PM
Sorry, I should of made it clear I was referring to a special edition DVD/Blu-ray release!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 21 September, 2016, 09:18:41 AM
Quote from: JOSÉ JABÓN on 20 September, 2016, 06:09:39 PM

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/IMG_1378_zpsu7syvnkp.jpg) (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/burlearth/media/IMG_1378_zpsu7syvnkp.jpg.html)


The passers by are trying to help the victim? If this was MC 1 they'd have made off with her handbag,coat and skin though perhaps with a Judge present the usual dog eat dog wouldn't apply. Excellent photos and I always enjoy a 'behind the scenes' look at movies anyway. It would have shown Dredd as the fascist he is him shooting through the victim to cap the perp and you can see how that might have been a problem for the films promoters.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 21 September, 2016, 09:35:29 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 21 September, 2016, 09:18:41 AM
It would have shown Dredd as the fascist he is him shooting through the victim to cap the perp and you can see how that might have been a problem for the films promoters.
It would have also been very similar to a scene in Robocop
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 21 September, 2016, 09:43:45 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 21 September, 2016, 09:35:29 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 21 September, 2016, 09:18:41 AM
It would have shown Dredd as the fascist he is him shooting through the victim to cap the perp and you can see how that might have been a problem for the films promoters.
It would have also been very similar to a scene in Robocop
I don't remember who said it, but it was either the writer or director who said thet the scene was changed exactly because it was so close to that famous scene.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PlanetReplicas on 21 September, 2016, 11:10:36 AM
When Zavvi were working on their Steelbook I hooked them up with DNA films to see if they could obtain any extra footage directly (- ie the original execution scene).

I guess it exists somewhere, but DNA have supplied all there is available by the sounds of it.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 September, 2016, 11:21:33 AM
Quote from: Dreddzilla on 21 September, 2016, 09:43:45 AMI don't remember who said it, but it was either the writer or director who said thet the scene was changed exactly because it was so close to that famous scene.


I think it was based more on a change suggested by John Wagner that they needed a set-up scene where Dredd was portrayed as a hero and not just an executioner - hence the scene being changed to Dredd saving a hostage.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Leigh S on 21 September, 2016, 11:37:51 AM
wish they ahd used a ricochet though - the hot shot thing doesnt really make a lick of sense . If he can safely hit his head with a projectile, why not just a standard execution shot?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 21 September, 2016, 11:44:47 AM
Quote from: Leigh S on 21 September, 2016, 11:37:51 AM
wish they ahd used a ricochet though

That's in Robocop 2, isn't it?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 21 September, 2016, 11:53:32 AM
Yeah, definitely in one of them at least.

Would have liked to have seen the ricochet used, maybe the stairwell scene, would have broken up the standard executions a bit.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 21 September, 2016, 12:01:33 PM
Quote from: Leigh S on 21 September, 2016, 11:37:51 AM
wish they ahd used a ricochet though - the hot shot thing doesnt really make a lick of sense . If he can safely hit his head with a projectile, why not just a standard execution shot?
Hot shot gives a more impressive gruesome death and it would have been odd if Dredd had called the guy 'Ricochet'
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 September, 2016, 12:09:47 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 21 September, 2016, 12:01:33 PM
Hot shot gives a more impressive gruesome death and it would have been odd if Dredd had called the guy 'Ricochet'

Imagine if he'd not said anything and just shot him.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 21 September, 2016, 12:18:28 PM
If only the perp had been called Rick O'Shea.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 21 September, 2016, 12:52:04 PM
This may have been mentioned already, but these photos of the 'shoot through the Citizen' scene and even more behind-the-scenes loveliness can be seen on Lee Fields' 'BAWZPROPS' page on Facebook.

Incidentally, us regular Daily Star Dredd readers will already have seen that scene years ago, drawn by the Ron Smith.  Dredd chases a perp, on a Zoom I think (maybe), shooting through a cit to nail the perp.

It ends with the citizen exclaiming 'you shot me!' and Dredd replying 'I shot THROUGH you' before noting the citizen will be suitably compensated by Justice Department. 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 21 September, 2016, 12:53:39 PM
PS I'd love to see a version of the film with the original 'shoot through the citizen' scene.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Spaceghost on 21 September, 2016, 01:49:29 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 21 September, 2016, 12:01:33 PM
Quote from: Leigh S on 21 September, 2016, 11:37:51 AM
wish they ahd used a ricochet though - the hot shot thing doesnt really make a lick of sense . If he can safely hit his head with a projectile, why not just a standard execution shot?
Hot shot gives a more impressive gruesome death and it would have been odd if Dredd had called the guy 'Ricochet'

It annoyed me that in the comic, a hotshot is actually the nickname of the heatseeker bullet, not the incendiary.

I soon got over it though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 September, 2016, 02:48:44 PM
He could've killed the perp at any time during that hostage scene, as the creep never had his finger on the trigger.
I will never get over that  :'(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Woolly on 21 September, 2016, 06:22:04 PM
Watched Dredd with my Mum (73) last sunday, and she loved it.
She particularly liked seeing the bad guys/bent judge getting beaten up by Dredd, and thought Ma-Ma was a suitably nasty villain who got a suitably nasty ending.

When it started she said "Is he that comic you've been reading for years?"

My Mums awesome!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NapalmKev on 22 September, 2016, 09:00:20 AM
Quote from: Woolly on 21 September, 2016, 06:22:04 PM
Watched Dredd with my Mum (73) last sunday, and she loved it.
She particularly liked seeing the bad guys/bent judge getting beaten up by Dredd, and thought Ma-Ma was a suitably nasty villain who got a suitably nasty ending.

When it started she said "Is he that comic you've been reading for years?"

My Mums awesome!

After watching Dredd my mum said she preferred the 'Stallone' version. I haven't put her out to pasture yet even with comments this insane!

Cheers
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 27 September, 2016, 11:16:08 PM
Dredd on 8th of 30 best 3D films again.

http://www.gamesradar.com/best-3d-movies/2/ (http://www.gamesradar.com/best-3d-movies/2/)

The film: 2000 AD's best-loved son had already been the subject of one film the dreadful 1995 Sylvester Stallone vehicle which took the name and the uniform but not much else. Dredd 3D, by contrast, was largely faithful and that meant violence. Lots and lots of violence.

3D enhancement: Where Avatar aimed for expansiveness, Dredd is claustrophobic, so the 3D effect was used mainly to illustrate the psychotropic effects of the Slo-Mo drug used by future criminals. Time becomes sluggish, colours swirl around and inevitably blood is shed. It leads to some curiously beautiful moments of carnage.

Most eye-popping scene: Dredd and Anderson bust into an apartment and shoot up a gang of Slo-Mo users. As Dredd shoots one bad guy in the face, his blood seems to splash out of the cinema screen.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beeks on 27 September, 2016, 11:35:27 PM
I still love the homage to Matt Berry in this film

You thought it was gold but it was bronze
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 27 September, 2016, 11:50:36 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 27 September, 2016, 11:16:08 PM
Dredd on 8th of 30 best 3D films again.

http://www.gamesradar.com/best-3d-movies/2/ (http://www.gamesradar.com/best-3d-movies/2/)



Well deserved!

A really imaginative use of 3D whether one appreciates the format or not.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 28 September, 2016, 10:56:49 AM
Karl Urban congratulates 2000AD on its 2000th issue!  :)

https://mobile.twitter.com/KarlUrban/status/781063204919095296
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 28 September, 2016, 11:39:18 AM
https://www.facebook.com/filmarena.collection/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED&fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/filmarena.collection/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED&fref=nf)

Another Blu-Ray from another firm, no news on disc content - but I'm guessing it will just be the same discs repackaged.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 September, 2016, 11:45:38 AM
About time. I've been following this on instagram.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 28 September, 2016, 12:17:42 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 September, 2016, 11:45:38 AM
About time. I've been following this on instagram.

Great to see it finally coming out after it was announced over a year ago!

Looking good!



(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/image_25.jpeg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/image_25.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheridan on 28 September, 2016, 12:48:06 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 27 September, 2016, 11:16:08 PM
Dredd on 8th of 30 best 3D films again.

http://www.gamesradar.com/best-3d-movies/2/ (http://www.gamesradar.com/best-3d-movies/2/)

The film: 2000 AD's best-loved son had already been the subject of one film the dreadful 1995 Sylvester Stallone vehicle which took the name and the uniform but not much else. Dredd 3D, by contrast, was largely faithful and that meant violence. Lots and lots of violence.
Name?  Joe versus Joseph
Uniform?  Don't remember seeing any gold codpieces in the real comic (with apologies to those artists who worked on Lawman of the Future).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 04 October, 2016, 07:19:28 AM
Kinda old news, but still... Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!

http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/dredd/44158/dredd-fox-passed-on-a-judge-death-movie
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 05 October, 2016, 01:47:07 AM
I don't know, I kinda feel like we dodged a bullet there. Fox dosen't exactly have the best track record for comic films. Besides I hate to say it, but I kinda agree with Fox's opinion at the time. I think we needed that first movie to really establish this universe before going all paranormal 'X-files/Hellraiser' on the audience.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Skinrash on 06 October, 2016, 05:12:22 PM
I hope we get Judge Death in live action some day. I have a feeling the closest thing we'll get to that will be a fan film though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 07 October, 2016, 12:01:15 PM
watched Dredd on Spanish TV at the weekend in Mallorca. The voices were all a bit samey, Dredd and the male characters all had that generic tough-guy growl, but luckily I pretty much know everything they're saying by now so the language barrier wasn't a problem!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 07 October, 2016, 04:33:46 PM
Finished lenticular for Edition 2 of the Film Arena Dredd steelbook:

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/image_36.jpeg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/image_36.jpeg.html)

Contents and pack-shot of Edition 1:


(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/image_37.jpeg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/image_37.jpeg.html)

Loohing good!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 07 October, 2016, 06:10:16 PM
The front and back of Edition 2:

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/image_38.jpeg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/image_38.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 October, 2016, 08:25:04 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 07 October, 2016, 06:10:16 PM
The front and back of Edition 2:

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/image_38.jpeg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/image_38.jpeg.html)

That would be awesome if it include graffiti as featured in the film
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 07 October, 2016, 09:19:35 PM
Why would that make it more awesome? Would you buy it to add to your collection then? Why not go to one of the conventions and get Jock to put some graffiti on it, hey presto, it's official ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 07 October, 2016, 09:23:52 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 07 October, 2016, 09:19:35 PM
Why would that make it more awesome? Would you buy it to add to your collection then? Why not go to one of the conventions and get Jock to put some graffiti on it, hey presto, it's official ;)

Exceptional idea JB!  :thumbsup: 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 07 October, 2016, 11:06:23 PM
When is America Going to finally get a steelbook edition of DREDD?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 07 October, 2016, 11:48:56 PM
Quote from: Dreddzilla on 07 October, 2016, 11:06:23 PM
When is America Going to finally get a steelbook edition of DREDD?

Surprising Lionsgate haven't milked Dredd in the States, considering what a good seller it was on disc!

Maybe they're holding back for the 4K UHD version!!!!!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 08 October, 2016, 12:57:15 AM
[Conspiracist alert]Dredd was too close to the NWO's vision to be allowed to succeed.[/Conspiracist alert]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: NapalmKev on 08 October, 2016, 06:48:31 AM
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 08 October, 2016, 12:57:15 AM
[Conspiracist alert]Dredd was too close too the NWO's vision to be allowed to succeed.[/Conspiracist alert]

As much as he's a fascist in a totalitarian state I still don't think he would shoot an unarmed, Autistic 6 year old! Dredd seems quite tame when compared with some real-life Police!

Anyway, where's this Damn sequel?

Cheers
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 08 October, 2016, 09:23:52 PM
Quote from: NapalmKev on 08 October, 2016, 06:48:31 AM

Anyway, where's this Damn sequel?
In my mind.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 08 October, 2016, 10:00:10 PM
Quote from: Dreddzilla on 08 October, 2016, 09:23:52 PM
Quote from: NapalmKev on 08 October, 2016, 06:48:31 AM

Anyway, where's this Damn sequel?
In my mind.  :lol:

Hopefully in a few producers and writers minds too!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 09 October, 2016, 02:04:52 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 08 October, 2016, 10:00:10 PM
Quote from: Dreddzilla on 08 October, 2016, 09:23:52 PM
Quote from: NapalmKev on 08 October, 2016, 06:48:31 AM

Anyway, where's this Damn sequel?
In my mind.  :lol:

Hopefully in a few producers and writers minds too!  :)
:lol: I've already got a outline for my Death trilogy, yes a trilogy. ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 09 October, 2016, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Dreddzilla on 09 October, 2016, 02:04:52 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 08 October, 2016, 10:00:10 PM
Quote from: Dreddzilla on 08 October, 2016, 09:23:52 PM
Quote from: NapalmKev on 08 October, 2016, 06:48:31 AM

Anyway, where's this Damn sequel?
In my mind.  :lol:

Hopefully in a few producers and writers minds too!  :)
:lol: I've already got a outline for my Death trilogy, yes a trilogy. ;)

A trilogy you say!!!  :o :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 09 October, 2016, 05:55:16 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 09 October, 2016, 09:41:51 AM
A trilogy you say!!!  :o :)

Dredd 1: The Dark Judges
Starts with a vignette of Chopper the Super Scrawler
Main movie is Dredd vs the Dark Judges, at the end Anderson gets encase in Boing!
Post credits: Chopper starts training kids in the isocubes to fly powerboards

Dredd 2: Oz
Vignette: Chopper makes his way to Oz.
Main Movie: Oz 'natch.
Post Credits: Anderson being cut out of Boing

Dredd 3: Necropolis
Vignette: The Dead Man
Main Movie: etc
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 09 October, 2016, 09:44:48 PM
Quote from: Angry Vince on 09 October, 2016, 05:55:16 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 09 October, 2016, 09:41:51 AM
A trilogy you say!!!  :o :)

Dredd 1: The Dark Judges
Starts with a vignette of Chopper the Super Scrawler
Main movie is Dredd vs the Dark Judges, at the end Anderson gets encase in Boing!
Post credits: Chopper starts training kids in the isocubes to fly powerboards

Dredd 2: Oz
Vignette: Chopper makes his way to Oz.
Main Movie: Oz 'natch.
Post Credits: Anderson being cut out of Boing

Dredd 3: Necropolis
Vignette: The Dead Man
Main Movie: etc
Yah, I'm going in a completely different direction. For one my trilogy is more of a lead up to the DJ's with them showing up in the last movie. The first fwo establish the World and culture of Mega-City with hints at the Dark Judges peppered throughout.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 14 October, 2016, 10:19:26 PM
Dredd on Film4 tonight at 10.45pm
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 October, 2016, 12:33:19 AM
DROKK! I missed it Goaty. What was it like?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 15 October, 2016, 12:50:51 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 October, 2016, 12:33:19 AM
DROKK! I missed it Goaty. What was it like?

Wasn't up to much, he kept the helmet on and there was no Rob Schneider and where was his catchphrase:)


filippo
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheridan on 15 October, 2016, 08:09:48 PM
Quote from: flip-r mk2 on 15 October, 2016, 12:50:51 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 October, 2016, 12:33:19 AM
DROKK! I missed it Goaty. What was it like?

Wasn't up to much, he kept the helmet on and there was no Rob Schneider and where was his catchphrase:)

filippo

He used all the rounds on his lawgiver though, right?  Wouldn't be a Dredd film without a double whammy!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 17 October, 2016, 06:29:30 AM
Quote from: sheridan on 15 October, 2016, 08:09:48 PM

He used all the rounds on his lawgiver though, right?  Wouldn't be a Dredd film without a double whammy!

Pffft, why use a double whammy when you can fire a signal flare!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 19 November, 2016, 05:21:01 PM
Check this art by Josan Gonzalez and Laurie Greasley from the Hero Complex Gallery https://hcgart.com/ (https://hcgart.com/)

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--cxMZ9EC3--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/zwaio5xeirnkduwvoxgh.jpg)

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 19 November, 2016, 05:29:53 PM
Heerm...So far I can identify (clockwise)...

Predator
San
Nausicaa
Xena
Tetsuo
That weird judge come sheriff lady from Lone Starr
Ripley
That bald kid from Stranger Things
Furiosa
Dredd and Anderson (obviously)
Quaid from Total Recall
Robocop
Kaneda's gang from Akira and one of the psychic kids
Major Matoko, Batou and a Tachikoma from GitS
A few characters from The Raid
Barbarella
....Is that Fey Harkonnan?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: I, Cosh on 19 November, 2016, 05:44:13 PM
Quote....Is that Fey Harkonnan?
You're on the right track. It's Feyd Rautha.

Some you missed out:
Lewis and Robocop arresting Quaid from Total Recall.
Deckard and Rachel.
Blade.
ED-209
Her from out of Ex Machina.
Somebody from Battle Royale maybe.
Tequila from Hard Boiled.
Many more that I don't know
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 19 November, 2016, 06:08:58 PM
And Daft Punk...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 November, 2016, 07:30:25 PM


Judge J. B. McBride from Bravestarr
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 20 November, 2016, 06:36:30 PM
On the far right, that girl with the short hair and outstretched hand... isn't that the telekinetic girl from that recent Netflix series Stranger Things?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 20 November, 2016, 06:41:23 PM
Just spotted CHAPPIE in the bottom right hand corner, and Ex Machina behind Daft Punk.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 22 November, 2016, 05:56:44 AM
Midnights Edge discusses DREDD. Why it failed and it's sequel possibilities. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=76V0fczp3oA
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 22 November, 2016, 10:02:28 AM
Quote from: Dreddzilla on 22 November, 2016, 05:56:44 AM
Midnights Edge discusses DREDD. Why it failed and it's sequel possibilities. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=76V0fczp3oA

Fascinating well worth a listen. If Death is to fanciful a villain for any sequel which antagonist would you pick for the sequel? Mean Machine Angel and his family from hell? Mutie Liberation Front and their obvious minority allegory? Or something new specifically made for the film?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 22 November, 2016, 01:05:02 PM
Skank, Orlok and Block Mania - ending with nukes launching from East Meg One, then a 28 part Netflix adaptation of the Apocalypse War.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 23 November, 2016, 11:04:53 AM
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 22 November, 2016, 01:05:02 PM
Skank, Orlok and Block Mania - ending with nukes launching from East Meg One, then a 28 part Netflix adaptation of the Apocalypse War.
Orlok, I completely forgot about him! That would be Ace particularly if they showed how the Sov's were little different in their methods from Justice Department preempting the surveillance state to come under Trumps watch.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Zarjazzer on 23 November, 2016, 01:13:58 PM
Dredd was good so Santa should be bringing us boarders another Dredd-yes? 
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 30 November, 2016, 01:49:09 AM
If another Judge Dredd movie happens, Willem Dafoe for Judge Death please.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 30 November, 2016, 11:00:38 AM
We live in hope!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 30 November, 2016, 12:44:33 PM
Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 30 November, 2016, 01:49:09 AM
If another Judge Dredd movie happens, Willem Dafoe for Judge Death please.
My vote goes to Doug Jones, tall, thin, great actor.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Link Prime on 30 November, 2016, 01:16:14 PM
Quote from: Dreddzilla on 30 November, 2016, 12:44:33 PM
Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 30 November, 2016, 01:49:09 AM
If another Judge Dredd movie happens, Willem Dafoe for Judge Death please.
My vote goes to Doug Jones, tall, thin, great actor.

I'd be in the don't-bother-with-The-Dark-Judges camp (for the Dredd movie-verse), but Jones would fill the role absolutely perfectly.

He killed it in The Strain this year.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 30 November, 2016, 03:16:17 PM
Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 30 November, 2016, 01:49:09 AM
If another Judge Dredd movie happens, Willem Dafoe for Judge Death please.

I could see Defoe as an Angel Gang member.  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Theblazeuk on 30 November, 2016, 03:16:49 PM
You've just moved me into the other I-want-the-dark-judges camp if it comes with Doug Jones as Judge Death.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 01 December, 2016, 01:31:52 AM
My kooky idea is for an atypical pacing, the first third of the movie being just Dredd nonstop taking calls like in The Grayard Shift and with stuff like Punks Rule etc.

Anderson has a few escalating visions during that time, then bam Judge Death shows up. I kinda like how originally he just showed up with no foreshadowing iirc and they didn't know what was up, so just a dab of foreshadowing will do.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 01 December, 2016, 09:48:51 PM
I don't think the Dark Judges should be in the next film, either, but if they are, Bruce Spence for Judge Death.

https://youtu.be/aVW811Je8s0
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 16 December, 2016, 05:25:46 PM
Still making the memes over at Cracked...

(http://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/0/2/6/590026_v2.jpg)

http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_2333_19-better-posters-underrated-movies/ (http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_2333_19-better-posters-underrated-movies/)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 09 January, 2017, 06:48:31 AM
So this is out there and looks bloody good. "Art Figures AF-015 1/6th scale Heavy Armoured Special Cop "DREDD" 12-inch figure"

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xnRqNfbtYGk/VFYE9kbLDTI/AAAAAAAB2BA/YHKygi_Whf4/s640/948_dredd.jpg)

http://toyhaven.blogspot.co.nz/2014/11/art-figures-af-015-16th-scale-heavy.html (http://toyhaven.blogspot.co.nz/2014/11/art-figures-af-015-16th-scale-heavy.html)

If bootleggers can make money with awesome action figures, why aren't there any licensed ones?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 09 January, 2017, 07:47:42 AM
Because people who make licensed ones have to pay for the license and that adds to the cost.
Also, most people who wanted a 12" action figure of Dredd will have bought this as well as the other two figures and therefore killed the demand for an official one.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SIP on 09 January, 2017, 08:27:21 AM
I doubt that it does kill demand for an official release.  I have the art figures Dredd buy by no means think it's perfect - if Hot Toys announced a Dredd release I would pick it up in a heart beat.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 09 January, 2017, 10:35:18 AM
Quote from: SIP on 09 January, 2017, 08:27:21 AM
I doubt that it does kill demand for an official release.

It kills the desire of potential makers to pay for a license, when they have to compete with bootleggers. It's not that Rebellion don't want to see an official figure like this on the market, it's that possible manufacturers lack confidence in the size of that market thanks to unlicensed stuff.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 09 January, 2017, 11:22:45 AM
The movie Dredd also has the problem with image rights - DNA/IMG/whoever never seemed interested in doing any merch, not surprising considering it tanked at the box office.

Rebellion can do movie style stuff as long as it's coming via the comic adaptations - so if you wanted to have a figure with Karl Urban's face, that would need to be negotiated.

It's all a lot of hoops that bootleggers in Hong Kong don't have to worry their heads about. They also obviously don't pay a cut to anyone, so can make it cheaper.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 09 January, 2017, 04:49:18 PM
Great looking figure! I've seen the 1/12 versions on the web. I didn't realise they were doing a larger version.

I don't condone the fact it's not not legit, but credit where it's due: the detail is amazing.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SIP on 09 January, 2017, 05:56:34 PM
The art figures 1/6 Dredd is a number of years old now, though I know they have re released it relatively recently.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Mardroid on 09 January, 2017, 06:14:38 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 09 January, 2017, 04:49:18 PM
Great looking figure! I've seen the 1/12 versions on the web. I didn't realise they were doing a larger version.

I don't condone the fact it's not not legit, but credit where it's due: the detail is amazing.

Oops! I realise I posted a double negative there... so I do condone it then?  :-[ (I don't.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 09 January, 2017, 11:56:47 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 09 January, 2017, 11:22:45 AM

Rebellion can do movie style stuff as long as it's coming via the comic adaptations - so if you wanted to have a figure with Karl Urban's face, that would need to be negotiated.

Hoping for a 1/12 Underbelly DREDD from Mez or 3A at some point.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rogue Judge on 10 January, 2017, 06:52:41 AM
Has anyone watched Dredd at home on a 3D TV? My brother recently purchased the Dredd 3D blueray and I am going to his buddies house to watch it in 3D with him this Friday! Im really looking forward to it as I have only seen it on regular DVD.

Also, its been over a year since I watched it so Im definitely overdue for a rewatch! Any parts of the film that really stand out in 3D? Im guessing mamas demise looks drokking brilliant.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 10 January, 2017, 09:29:57 AM
Yep  - I bought a 3D telly just to watch Dredd 3D on it.  The 3D in it is far better than watching the same film in the cinema.  For a start there's much less ghosting (ethereal double images), the picture is crisp, and there appears to be a greater depth of field. 

So you're in fopr a treat basically. 

Make sure you get the seat middle front though, as most 3D telly's don't work that well if you're viewing from too far to the left or right.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 10 January, 2017, 09:50:22 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 10 January, 2017, 09:29:57 AM
For a start there's much less ghosting (ethereal double images), the picture is crisp, and there appears to be a greater depth of field.

I'm convinced that most cinemas don't know how to set up their 3D properly — at our local Cineworld, only the IMAX 3D showings are watchable. The handful of times I've gone to a 'normal' 3D showing, the ghosting has been noticeable to the point of headache-inducing. I saw Dredd on both kinds of screen and the difference was considerable.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 January, 2017, 11:18:10 AM
Watch drug bust in 3D always awesome!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 January, 2017, 12:23:12 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 10 January, 2017, 09:29:57 AM
Yep  - I bought a 3D telly just to watch Dredd 3D on it.  The 3D in it is far better than watching the same film in the cinema.  For a start there's much less ghosting (ethereal double images), the picture is crisp, and there appears to be a greater depth of field. 

So you're in fopr a treat basically. 

Make sure you get the seat middle front though, as most 3D telly's don't work that well if you're viewing from too far to the left or right.

Strange, when I saw Dredd at the cinema at my local Cineworld, the presentation was superb.
The U.K home release, while watchable, leaves much to be desired, being overly grainy in parts with picture contrast far too high.

Still worth a watch, though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheridan on 10 January, 2017, 12:37:02 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 10 January, 2017, 09:29:57 AM
Yep  - I bought a 3D telly just to watch Dredd 3D on it. 


That's dedication for you!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheridan on 10 January, 2017, 12:37:47 PM
Quote from: Rogue Judge on 10 January, 2017, 06:52:41 AM
Has anyone watched Dredd at home on a 3D TV? My brother recently purchased the Dredd 3D blueray and I am going to his buddies house to watch it in 3D with him this Friday! Im really looking forward to it as I have only seen it on regular DVD.

Also, its been over a year since I watched it so Im definitely overdue for a rewatch! Any parts of the film that really stand out in 3D? Im guessing mamas demise looks drokking brilliant.


The bits you'd expect - Slo-mo was made for 3d (though it was also great watching at a 2d cinema).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheridan on 10 January, 2017, 12:39:53 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 10 January, 2017, 12:23:12 PM
Strange, when I saw Dredd at the cinema at my local Cineworld, the presentation was superb.
The U.K home release, while watchable, leaves much to be desired, being overly grainy in parts with picture contrast far too high.

Still worth a watch, though.


I must have been lucky - I saw it in 3d at the Odeon on Tottenham Court Road and don't recall any issues with ghosting (I also saw it at the Peckhamplex, which was the only cinema I could find in the whole of London that showed it in 2d - more than explaining the lack of commercial success).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 January, 2017, 01:33:01 PM
Quote from: sheridan on 10 January, 2017, 12:37:02 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 10 January, 2017, 09:29:57 AM
Yep  - I bought a 3D telly just to watch Dredd 3D on it. 


That's dedication for you!

Me too!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 10 January, 2017, 02:02:15 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 10 January, 2017, 09:29:57 AM
Yep  - I bought a 3D telly

You kept that quiet!   :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 10 January, 2017, 05:28:57 PM
Quote from: Rogue Judge on 10 January, 2017, 06:52:41 AM
Any parts of the film that really stand out in 3D? Im guessing mamas demise looks drokking brilliant.

Nothing to do with the 3D (and yes Mama's death is pretty damn cool!) , but you can look out for forumites immortalised in graffiti - Goaty appears a couple of times scrawled on the walls, there's a billboard of Joe Soap's avatar behind Dredd's shoulder in the initial car chase scene, and Burdis gets a mention in the Justice Dept graphics at the beginning. ( I avoided the movie thread for about 18 months prior to release to avoid spoilers/detail fatigue but I'm gutted that I could have been in the movie if I'd contributed to those discussions!).

There are a few other background "easter eggs" for hardcore fans - the movie poster about Owen Krysler for example, the perp's jacket with DROKK on the back, or the murdered fattie's belliwheel.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 10 January, 2017, 06:09:49 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 10 January, 2017, 05:28:57 PM

( I avoided the movie thread for about 18 months prior to release to avoid spoilers/detail fatigue but I'm gutted that I could have been in the movie if I'd contributed to those discussions!).


Me too. Worse, about a week before the film's release I was told that a reference to me would be in it due to another thing. But nada. Double gutted.

I'm almost within sight of being on the verge of getting over it now, though.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rogue Judge on 10 January, 2017, 11:19:48 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 10 January, 2017, 09:29:57 AM
Yep  - I bought a 3D telly just to watch Dredd 3D on it.  The 3D in it is far better than watching the same film in the cinema.  For a start there's much less ghosting (ethereal double images), the picture is crisp, and there appears to be a greater depth of field. 

So you're in fopr a treat basically. 

Make sure you get the seat middle front though, as most 3D telly's don't work that well if you're viewing from too far to the left or right.

Wow I respect your  dedication to Dredd! This will be my first go around with a 3D TV so im pretty excited! Ill try to grab a central seat too
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rogue Judge on 10 January, 2017, 11:25:05 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 10 January, 2017, 05:28:57 PM
Quote from: Rogue Judge on 10 January, 2017, 06:52:41 AM
Any parts of the film that really stand out in 3D? Im guessing mamas demise looks drokking brilliant.

Nothing to do with the 3D (and yes Mama's death is pretty damn cool!) , but you can look out for forumites immortalised in graffiti - Goaty appears a couple of times scrawled on the walls, there's a billboard of Joe Soap's avatar behind Dredd's shoulder in the initial car chase scene, and Burdis gets a mention in the Justice Dept graphics at the beginning. ( I avoided the movie thread for about 18 months prior to release to avoid spoilers/detail fatigue but I'm gutted that I could have been in the movie if I'd contributed to those discussions!).

There are a few other background "easter eggs" for hardcore fans - the movie poster about Owen Krysler for example, the perp's jacket with DROKK on the back, or the murdered fattie's belliwheel.

Wow I hadn't heard about the Easter eggs, those who did get their name immortalized in the film must be chuffed! Sorry you missed the opportunity...maybe next time.

I'll be looking for the Drokk jacket, the poster and especially the bellliwheel. Thanks!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 January, 2017, 11:28:23 PM
It's a heavy burden we have to carry  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 11 January, 2017, 07:40:42 AM
Quote from: Rogue Judge on 10 January, 2017, 11:25:05 PM

I'll be looking for the Drokk jacket, the poster and especially the bellliwheel. Thanks!
Pretty impossible to miss. :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 11 January, 2017, 07:45:19 AM
Quote from: Rogue Judge on 10 January, 2017, 11:19:48 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 10 January, 2017, 09:29:57 AM
Yep  - I bought a 3D telly just to watch Dredd 3D on it.  The 3D in it is far better than watching the same film in the cinema.  For a start there's much less ghosting (ethereal double images), the picture is crisp, and there appears to be a greater depth of field. 

So you're in fopr a treat basically. 

Make sure you get the seat middle front though, as most 3D telly's don't work that well if you're viewing from too far to the left or right.

Wow I respect your  dedication to Dredd! This will be my first go around with a 3D TV so im pretty excited! Ill try to grab a central seat too

I must say that my copy of Dredd 3D was damned expensive, but it did come with a TV and blu ray player!

Watching it at home was definitely better - TV centred and angled correctly, 5.1 speakers and the kids at a neighbours house.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 13 January, 2017, 08:57:13 PM
Found this snippet about Pacific Rim 2. Interesting cast list. Sorry if it's been posted already.

http://www.screengeek.net/2017/01/09/karl-urban-rinko-kikuchi-confirmed-cast-members-pacific-rim-2/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 January, 2017, 02:30:07 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 13 January, 2017, 08:57:13 PM
Found this snippet about Pacific Rim 2. Interesting cast list. Sorry if it's been posted already.

http://www.screengeek.net/2017/01/09/karl-urban-rinko-kikuchi-confirmed-cast-members-pacific-rim-2/

Not true according to the man himself.

https://twitter.com/KarlUrban/status/818560691195944960
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 January, 2017, 09:28:09 AM
False news on the internet? There is no God!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rogue Judge on 14 January, 2017, 07:55:58 PM
So I watched Dredd in 3D last night!

It was great, much more enjoyable than the first time around (at home on reg DVD). I sat in the middle and was able to enjoy the 3D - it made the evening feel more like an experience than just watching a movie. It was better than I remember and there was a lot of energy in the room as myself and others are really starting to get into all things Dredd. Not going to lie...I want a 3D tv. Can someone tell my wife?

As for the Easter eggs, I was watching like a hawk. I didn't see the Owen Krysler wanted poster or the belliwheel, but I did see: the Drokk jacket and the Kenny Who? and CHOPPER graffiti (smiley face and all)!

One thing, the movie mentions Anderson is a mutant, but this is not the case in the progs, correct? Or is anyone with Psi powers a mutant? I was slightly confused by this.

Finally, It would have been nice to see more of the big Meg, (the oddly shaped buildings and flying cars, maybe an Otto Sump commercial, etc.) but I assume budget limitations played a part in this.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 14 January, 2017, 09:35:28 PM
It's not really stated in the prog, but it wouldn't be the first time that Justice Department are hypocrites.

I think the main difference in the comic is that Psi powers are seen as different to radiation induced physical mutation.

Regarding buildings etc.

Budget up to a point (mainly on vehicles) - all the concept art tended to steer towards the square, brutalist architecture so it could fit in with the real location.

Since there were no backlots for the exteriors, it made sense that way.

There have been comments that there were intentions to replace some vehicles with CGI, but there's nothing in the art book which gave much indication of anything too advanced, and again it would have looked a bit out of place with the near-future setting of the rest of the film.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rogue Judge on 17 January, 2017, 01:57:36 AM
Thanks for the info Steve.

Interesting that it has never been established where Psi powers come from, but I suppose mutation makes the most sense.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Frank on 17 January, 2017, 07:24:15 AM
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Psi Division was established in 2057 (http://i.imgur.com/nSAOUMe.png). Bob Booth launched his nukes in 2070.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 17 January, 2017, 10:03:13 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 14 January, 2017, 09:35:28 PMThere have been comments that there were intentions to replace some vehicles with CGI, but there's nothing in the art book which gave much indication of anything too advanced, and again it would have looked a bit out of place with the near-future setting of the rest of the film.
Plus you could argue that in the 40-odd years since Dredd was first imagined into being, the world has changed in ways that weren't predictable, and thereby Dredd the movie provides a more realistic take on a future. There are drones rather than flying cars, and tiny pieces of advanced electronics rather than room-sized computers and stompy automatons.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rogue Judge on 18 January, 2017, 05:09:08 AM
Quote from: Frank on 17 January, 2017, 07:24:15 AM
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Psi Division was established in 2057 (http://i.imgur.com/nSAOUMe.png). Bob Booth launched his nukes in 2070.

That evidence suggests Psi Judges are not mutants (at least, not mutants due to the Booth nuclear war). If aliens are possible I suppose so are psi powers. Good enough for me!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 18 January, 2017, 06:50:02 PM
QuoteThere have been comments that there were intentions to replace some vehicles with CGI, but there's nothing in the art book which gave much indication of anything too advanced, and again it would have looked a bit out of place with the near-future setting of the rest of the film.

I could well be misremembering/misquoting here (and I'm pretty sure he wasn't speaking 100% literally in any case) but I seem to recall that Alex Garland said regarding allocation of budget that they had to choose between shooting 3d or spending the equivalent budget on having fancy sci fi looking vehicles, and they chose 3d.

FWIW, I actually really like the MC1 that ended up on screen. It's different from the comics, sure, but it works and feels cohesive, and I suspect the film will age really well because they worked within their means and didn't overreach. I also think they a very good job of establishing things like the Mega-Blocks, which didn't really come across in the '95 movie (I also tend to disagree with the general consensus that the 95 movie 'got the look of the city right' - I always felt, despite some nice touches and a few fantastic matte painting/wide shots - it looked fairly generic and plasticy).
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 18 January, 2017, 08:11:45 PM
I suppose the thing about Dredd if you've grown up with the comic, is that MC1 was always very fantastical. Even now, despite the grimmer, grittier, modern Dredd, the future tech is frequently bizarre. Dredd was much more down to earth. I liked that about it. It felt real and dirty, in a way so few sci-fi films do. I didn't need cars zooming through the air. I do, however, still find it a pity that we won't see more. (And, yes, I know the comics exist, but more on-screen action would be amazing. Still, at least Dredd in comic form feels quite close to the movie universe in tone and quality – compared to the rubbish that Serenity/Firefly became in comic form.)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 18 January, 2017, 08:30:04 PM
Quote from: radiator on 18 January, 2017, 06:50:02 PM
I could well be misremembering/misquoting here (and I'm pretty sure he wasn't speaking 100% literally in any case) but I seem to recall that Alex Garland said regarding allocation of budget that they had to choose between shooting 3d or spending the equivalent budget on having fancy sci fi looking vehicles, and they chose 3d.

Not quite - when I interviewed him for the Megazine, Alex told me that if you were looking for funding in the post-Avatar world if your film wasn't going to be in 3D then the funders didn't want to know. So it had to be 3D to get made, which swallowed up a massive part of the budget.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 January, 2017, 08:59:32 PM

Quote from: Molch-R on 18 January, 2017, 08:30:04 PMNot quite - when I interviewed him for the Megazine, Alex told me that if you were looking for funding in the post-Avatar world if your film wasn't going to be in 3D then the funders didn't want to know. So it had to be 3D to get made, which swallowed up a massive part of the budget.

Rather than it being an issue of 3D in and of itself, I believe they got extra money to spend on post-production for added FX on the presentation of the slo-mo scenes - exploding jaws/shot manipulation/image enhancement etc. - and that it was a choice between beefing up the slo-mo scenes or spending it on vehicle replacement/augmentation.


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Molch-R on 18 January, 2017, 09:11:26 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 January, 2017, 08:59:32 PM

Quote from: Molch-R on 18 January, 2017, 08:30:04 PMNot quite - when I interviewed him for the Megazine, Alex told me that if you were looking for funding in the post-Avatar world if your film wasn't going to be in 3D then the funders didn't want to know. So it had to be 3D to get made, which swallowed up a massive part of the budget.

Rather than it being an issue of 3D in and of itself, I believe they got extra money to spend on post-production for added FX on the presentation of the slo-mo scenes - exploding jaws/shot manipulation/image enhancement etc. - and that it was a choice between beefing up the slo-mo scenes or spending it on vehicle replacement/augmentation.

Aaaaah, gotcha.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tiplodocus on 07 February, 2017, 09:25:13 PM
*** pimp Alert  ***
I do believe there is a lawmaster from the movie at Capital Sci-Fi Con in Edinburgh on 18th an 19th Feb.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 09 February, 2017, 05:52:18 PM
http://collider.com/castlevania-animated-series-netflix-adi-shankar/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=social#dredd-2-sequel (http://collider.com/castlevania-animated-series-netflix-adi-shankar/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=social#dredd-2-sequel)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 February, 2017, 12:49:29 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 09 February, 2017, 05:52:18 PM
http://collider.com/castlevania-animated-series-netflix-adi-shankar/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=social#dredd-2-sequel (http://collider.com/castlevania-animated-series-netflix-adi-shankar/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=social#dredd-2-sequel)

Looks like no one learned from Axanar...

http://screenrant.com/dark-power-rangers-tv-show-adi-shankar/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 10 February, 2017, 01:40:36 PM
Im not sure whether to be pleased with Shankars enthusiasm or ask him to stop .. please.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 10 February, 2017, 02:44:41 PM
My abiding memory of Shankar's Power Rangers fan movie is how the guy who played Tommy in the original show was approached to appear in it, but thought it sounded shit and started a Youtube channel to fill his time instead.  Fair play, though, one of his first videos was his attempt to break the world record for smashing wooden blocks with his fists - while skydiving.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 February, 2017, 03:59:50 PM
http://www.2000adonline.com/post/1393 (http://www.2000adonline.com/post/1393)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 13 February, 2017, 04:49:38 PM
Not just me then :D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 13 February, 2017, 06:58:21 PM
He just keeps dodging those Rigellian Hotshots.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: James Stacey on 14 February, 2017, 02:15:46 PM
This seems a balanced assessment with no attention seeking and eyeliner

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/138047-dredd-2-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-judge-dredd-tv-show-or-movie-sequel
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 February, 2017, 07:41:41 PM


As Jason eloquently put it on Saturday - one of the main reasons why there hasn't been more 2000AD film adaptations is because Hollywood contracts are shit.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Sandman1 on 14 February, 2017, 10:41:21 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 14 February, 2017, 07:41:41 PMone of the main reasons why there hasn't been more 2000AD film adaptations is because Hollywood contracts are shit.

Can you elaborate a bit more?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 February, 2017, 11:04:29 PM


They expect more from the licensing of characters than Rebellion are willing to give up - in effect to the point where it's tantamount to relinquishing ownership or control in all but name.



Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 February, 2017, 03:23:39 PM
So....something IS happening at long last about a possible sequel, TV or otherwise to Dredd 2012? Not fake news?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2017, 03:32:51 PM


It could be other 2000AD properties, not specifically Dredd.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2017, 03:34:26 PM


"Nothing has been announced yet but we are very, very keen on doing more with the huge depth of 2000 AD licences that we've got."

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Link Prime on 15 February, 2017, 03:38:04 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2017, 03:32:51 PM


It could be other 2000AD properties, not specifically Dredd.

One would almost suspect that you have some insider knowledge.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2017, 03:39:11 PM

Only a mad man would think that.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Link Prime on 15 February, 2017, 03:41:52 PM
 :crazy:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 15 February, 2017, 05:12:39 PM
Move over Mr Webb, there's a new avatar in town...

(http://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/the-conversation.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2017, 08:51:19 PM


I'd go with Travolta.

(https://flavorwire.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/blow-out1.jpg)


Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Link Prime on 17 February, 2017, 10:12:13 AM
Al Jean is your main man.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 20 March, 2017, 10:47:03 AM
Duncan Jones interested in 2000AD properties apparently.

https://filmink.com.au/2017/duncan-jones-wants-2000-ad-movie/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 20 March, 2017, 11:27:28 AM
Yep.

https://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=27932.0 (https://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=27932.0)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 March, 2017, 01:14:05 PM
Interesting times ahead, one hopes!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fragminion on 23 March, 2017, 06:32:58 AM
I would almost hope they did a Animated Dredd over a Live Action TBH.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Smith on 24 March, 2017, 10:29:07 AM
It could be done,but how profitable would it be,that the real problem.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 24 March, 2017, 12:12:04 PM
The 2012 movie set the groundwork for adaptations to come, so I'd assume a continuation of that would be the most logical way to go.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 25 March, 2017, 07:08:12 PM
Maybe.

Karl being Dredd would be the big selling point - everything else is up for grabs I'd imagine.

I would guess they'd want to tweak the costume anyway, depending on what rights DNA etc have to the movie version of that + it would be a fresh start for merchandising.

Unless it's going to be heavily green screen/vfx heavy, it would be a balance between how it might sit within the locations/vehicles they can source within that budget.

Tonally, I wouldn't expect it to be 80s wacky Dredd, but it could be less bleak than the 2012 version.

All very hypothetical anyway.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 25 March, 2017, 07:28:46 PM


Given the amount of time that has passed a 'reboot' –soft or otherwise– might be the preferred option by a new investor/whoever's in charge of creatively bringing it back. The more time passes, the more a blank-slate makes sense in terms of marketing and creativity. After all it won't be DNA's film and it's newfound awareness that another iteration would be capitalising on.

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 25 March, 2017, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 March, 2017, 07:28:46 PM


Given the amount of time that has passed a 'reboot' –soft or otherwise– might be the preferred option by a new investor/whoever's in charge of creatively bringing it back. The more time passes, the more a blank-slate makes sense in terms of marketing and creativity. After all it won't be DNA's film and it's newfound awareness that another iteration would be capitalising on.

5 years this September!

Jesus, that's gone quick!!!!  :o
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SIP on 25 March, 2017, 10:45:16 PM
The problem for me is that "dredd" was the perfect iteration of the character.....i don't want to see a reboot, I want more Urban and Thirlby.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 26 March, 2017, 04:10:56 AM
Quote from: SIP on 25 March, 2017, 10:45:16 PM
The problem for me is that "dredd" was the perfect iteration of the character.....i don't want to see a reboot, I want more Urban and Thirlby.

Likewise!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Smith on 26 March, 2017, 08:25:01 AM
In worst case,you could take the Evil Dead 2 approach.Have the same character and setting,but dont really reference the first movie.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 26 March, 2017, 10:53:23 AM
Would Karl Urban be interested in returning to Dredd if his Marvel role extends over several films and let's face it, that's where the money is? Oliva Thirlby might prefer more serious roles like her stint in 2015's The Stanford Prison Experiment so I guess it's going to be a new actor to play Dredd and a new Anderson too.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Smith on 26 March, 2017, 10:58:49 AM
We still have to see Thor:Ragnarok,so its too early to guess.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: SIP on 26 March, 2017, 12:14:48 PM
I would say Urban would do it at the drop of a hat.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 26 March, 2017, 04:02:42 PM
Quote from: SIP on 26 March, 2017, 12:14:48 PM
I would say Urban would do it at the drop of a hat.

Or drop of a Judge's helmet even!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 27 March, 2017, 11:54:06 PM
Dredd is receiving the 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray release treatment by Lionsgate in the U.S on June 6th!  :)

More info here:

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=21016
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 28 March, 2017, 11:13:13 AM
4K release announced. Guessing same extras.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/032717-1445 (http://www.thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/032717-1445)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 30 March, 2017, 11:44:44 AM
Could it be true?

http://www.screengeek.net/2017/03/29/rumor-adi-shankar-direct-venom/
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 30 March, 2017, 11:50:25 AM
I doubt it.

Joe Lynch directed Truth in Journalism.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 30 March, 2017, 04:40:43 PM
The U.S release of Dredd on Ultra HD can be pre-ordered from Amazon.com now:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XXNYHRQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1490888217&sr=8-3&keywords=dredd+4k
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 31 March, 2017, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 30 March, 2017, 04:40:43 PM
The U.S release of Dredd on Ultra HD can be pre-ordered from Amazon.com now:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XXNYHRQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1490888217&sr=8-3&keywords=dredd+4k

Cheaper here and free postage!

https://www.wowhd.co.uk/dredd/031398263937
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Fragminion on 02 April, 2017, 07:32:41 AM
Well now I have a reason to get a HD TV....Darn.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rogue Judge on 02 April, 2017, 08:43:51 AM
Quote from: Fragminion link=topic=34200.msg951746#should 746 date=1491114761
Well now I have a reason to get a HD TV....Darn.

There are some here who bought a 3D TV for this very reason - I respect their dedication to thrill power and the depth of their wallets!

With that said, I loved seeing it recently in 3D...kind of want one now. Don't have a HD tv either
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Art on 06 April, 2017, 09:54:44 PM
I appear on the Lewton Bus film podcast here to chat about the Dredd movie:

http://lewtonbus.net/podcasts/bus-stops-episode-7-dredd-2012/

They seem to like it, FWIW.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 06 April, 2017, 10:55:10 PM
Quote from: Art on 06 April, 2017, 09:54:44 PM
I appear on the Lewton Bus film podcast here to chat about the Dredd movie:

http://lewtonbus.net/podcasts/bus-stops-episode-7-dredd-2012/

They seem to like it, FWIW.

Excellent stuff, a highly enjoable listen!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 08 April, 2017, 07:05:23 PM
Dredd on C4 tonight...
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 08 April, 2017, 07:22:29 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 08 April, 2017, 07:05:23 PM
Dredd on C4 tonight...

10:35 PM.  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richard on 08 April, 2017, 11:55:08 PM
"Choke on that!"
Possibly my favourite bit!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 08 April, 2017, 11:57:14 PM
Quote from: Richard on 08 April, 2017, 11:55:08 PM
"Choke on that!"
Possibly my favourite bit!

Yeah!
Cracking line!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richard on 09 April, 2017, 12:18:40 AM
And the special effect where the guy's throat is all caved in!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 May, 2017, 05:42:18 PM
Thank you all for this great thread, now there is TV series on way! Wonderful news, creeps!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Smith on 10 May, 2017, 05:53:42 PM
There is?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 10 May, 2017, 06:00:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ei-BY6dYY&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dreddzilla on 10 May, 2017, 06:09:00 PM
Live action or animated? I'm guessing live action. And I'm happy to hear the direction they want to go in for this series. Any chances Karl comes back as Joe or do you think this will be a complete recast?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: CalHab on 10 May, 2017, 06:19:09 PM
Has anyone got the website to work? I'm just getting an image on my iPad.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Smith on 10 May, 2017, 06:22:02 PM
Those are some great news.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 10 May, 2017, 06:40:55 PM
This has made my year , marvel can take a hike with there tv series lol theres a new kid appearing on the block...Dredd.  :P
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Rusty on 10 May, 2017, 07:12:43 PM
Don't want to get too excited for it yet, but that's really difficult not to. Surely it has to be Urban putting the helmet back on? Same aesthetic? If it is, then I think I'll literally cream my kecks.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 10 May, 2017, 08:08:09 PM
Don't forget Thirlby back too!  ;)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Beadle68 on 13 May, 2017, 01:12:52 PM
I would love to see the Judge Child quest realised as well as all the normal/crazy goings on of mega city one. The graveyard shift would be a good way to start the series as this showed some of the more wackier sides of the big meg. For me it has to be Karl Urban back as old stoney face and Olivier Thirlby for Anderson as they just personified the characters perfectly.  Whats everyone elses thoughts?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: sheridan on 13 May, 2017, 01:56:48 PM
Quote from: Smith on 10 May, 2017, 05:53:42 PM
There is?

Yup! (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=44437)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Third Estate Ned on 22 May, 2017, 08:09:58 PM
Did anyone use to read Digitiser, Teletext's video game pages in the 1990s? One of the writers Paul Rose, a big 2000 AD fan, wrote this the other day in response to a comment about a Dredd TV series spin off game. I thought it was an interesting behind-the-scenes story, so I felt like sharing it.

If it's any consolation - and here I go name-dropping again - I'm mates with Alex Garland, and I was the first person to read his Dredd scripts. The first one was pure Dredd - a pretty much word-for-word remake of the first two Judge Death stories. Incredibly faithful, but... it was a weird proposition as a movie. Also, very high-budget... but they never got the money to make it.

He sent me his first draft of the new version (in a file labelled "Peach Trees") - which was more or less what you saw on screen, barring a few changes. And ohhhhh... we debated long and hard about it. And I suspect I was so passionate that I probably offended him rather. I also tried to get him to use Brendan McCarthy as a concept artist. But again, I was far too pushy and passionate about it, and likely overstepped the boundaries.

But...! When I saw the first cut of the movie, I loved it. It's not the Dredd I would do, but it's HIS interpretation of Dredd, and it works. And uses its tiny budget in a clever way.

Probably my biggest claim to fame - not that you see it on screen - but the perps who get shot at the start of the movie were residents of "Paul Rose Block" according to their identification papers. Apparently, a shot where you see this was edited out. But! You can still glimpse "Rose Block" in the back of one shot of Mega City One (the first one in the trailer I think).


The link is here. You can find the Dredd video game comments at the top of the page and this quote at the bottom.

http://www.digitiser2000.com/main-page/the-digitiser2000-friday-letters-page8712408 (http://www.digitiser2000.com/main-page/the-digitiser2000-friday-letters-page8712408)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richard on 23 May, 2017, 12:30:10 AM
I'd love to see that first script!

Thanks for the post.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: radiator on 23 May, 2017, 02:53:26 AM
Interesting stuff. ISTR reading somewhere that Alex was a big fan of Digitiser back in the day.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 23 May, 2017, 08:38:31 AM
Digitiser 2000 remains essential reading if you're into videogames and odd all humour. As for Dredd, the budget is still mind boggling. They did all that for the price of a typical Hollywood rom-com.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Woolly on 23 May, 2017, 10:22:43 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 23 May, 2017, 08:38:31 AMAs for Dredd, the budget is still mind boggling. They did all that for the price of a typical Hollywood rom-com.

Yup. Astounding to think just what they managed to accomplish with the 2012 film, considering the budget. And in 3D no less!

Much as I love 3D, I'd still like to see what could have been done with the budget if it was a 2D production.
Flying vehicles, at the very least!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 01 June, 2017, 12:36:28 AM
The reviews are coming in for the 4K UHD release of Dredd and by all accounts it's a stunner, with particular praise levelled at the newly mixed Dolby Atmos soundtrack!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2017/05/31/dredd-4k-blu-ray-review-lawmaker/#29ca72d77aef
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 July, 2017, 10:45:17 AM
Dredd is getting another screening at the PCC in August!

Go see it creeps!

https://princecharlescinema.com/PrinceCharlesCinema.dll/WhatsOn?search=Dredd
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 17 July, 2017, 07:24:40 PM
Alex Garland signed to develop a TV series...

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/fx-productions-signs-ex-machina-scribe-alex-garland-to-develop-a-new-series-171?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/fx-productions-signs-ex-machina-scribe-alex-garland-to-develop-a-new-series-171?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 July, 2017, 07:32:54 PM
Probably part of DNA's deal (https://www.dnafilms.com/television.html) with FOX Networks Group.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 July, 2017, 08:22:02 PM
Interesting developments, the best of luck to Mr Garland.

Now, if he could sneak in an episode of Judhe Dredd: Mega-City One, that would be great! 😀
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 July, 2017, 08:22:56 PM
*Judge Dredd: Mega-City One, that is!  :-[
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: zombemybabynow on 17 July, 2017, 09:42:29 PM
Thanks 👍 Booked it 👍
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 July, 2017, 10:05:32 PM
Quote from: zombemybabynow on 17 July, 2017, 09:42:29 PM
Thanks 👍 Booked it 👍

Cool!  :thumbsup:

Hoping to make it too!  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 27 July, 2017, 09:10:59 PM
I see Dredd's passed the $20M figure on Blu-ray and DVD sales in the US, no doubt aided by the film's recent 4K UHD release.


http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Dredd#tab=summary
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 02 September, 2017, 12:28:15 AM
So...

It has been five years since a few of us lucky folk went to see the preview of Dredd 3D in Soho.

Any thoughts/reflections/indignant remarks?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 02 September, 2017, 01:34:03 AM
yes

COULD GOD PLEASE STOP MAKING YEARS HAPPEN SO FAST?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 02 September, 2017, 01:45:07 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 02 September, 2017, 12:28:15 AM
So...

It has been five years since a few of us lucky folk went to see the preview of Dredd 3D in Soho.

Any thoughts/reflections/indignant remarks?

Yeah!
I didn't get an invite!!!!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 03 September, 2017, 04:39:38 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 02 September, 2017, 12:28:15 AM
So...

It has been five years since a few of us lucky folk went to see the preview of Dredd 3D in Soho.

Any thoughts/reflections/indignant remarks?

Wish I'd made more of it - it was all a bit hectic getting there from work.

I'd met Alex briefly at the LFCC preview where Burdis and Dave Court did some promo for the film - I did manage to have a quick chat with Alex in the pub, but was mainly in awe of spotting Carlos for the first time, and meeting up with other boarders.

I really did appreciate (as I'm sure everyone else did) the invite.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Bolt-01 on 04 September, 2017, 01:20:04 PM
Sweet Jovus, was that really five years ago?

Twas a grand night- It was also the last time I met WoD- formerly of FQP and sitting in the bar with John, then waiting for Carlos to arrive only to have John heckle him was a treat.

There were so many past boarders there. A good night.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 19 September, 2017, 03:37:27 PM
Nice little bit of recognition here-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/best-action-movies-ever-made/dredd/


Five years sheeesh. It was great seeing others boarders and of course John and Carlos. Thought Alex Garland was great, so down to earth approachable -even bought me a pint!

My only regret was not talking more with John Wagner, seeing him for the first time got me genuinely tongue tied -and I work in sales! Overall, it was a very memorable day and night.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Colin YNWA on 19 September, 2017, 09:49:45 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 19 September, 2017, 03:37:27 PM
Nice little bit of recognition here-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/best-action-movies-ever-made/dredd/


Wow that's a fascinating list!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 30 September, 2017, 11:03:56 PM
Dredd stilll awesome on E4, it start now on E4+1. Glad students can watch it!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 01 October, 2017, 01:36:52 PM
Just saw a skit on the BBC News for Roy of the Rovers that Rebellion is releasing as a series of Graphic Novels in the future. They interviewed some of the Rebellion staff and behind one of them was the clawed hand of Judge Death!
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richard on 01 October, 2017, 02:37:29 PM
What has that got to do with the Dredd movie?

There's a Roy of the Rovers thread here: http://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=44815.0;topicseen
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 02 October, 2017, 11:00:26 AM
Quote from: Richard on 01 October, 2017, 02:37:29 PM
What has that got to do with the Dredd movie?

There's a Roy of the Rovers thread here: http://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=44815.0;topicseen

Sunday laziness. Apologies to forum readers for my sloth.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 07 March, 2018, 07:16:29 PM
Lovely chat with Karl, so it was Alex directed Dredd?

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/exc-karl-urban-says-alex-garland-directed-dredd-updates-on-reprising-role-329 (http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/exc-karl-urban-says-alex-garland-directed-dredd-updates-on-reprising-role-329)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 07 March, 2018, 07:22:57 PM
Although any article talking about the "Netflix" Mega City one series should perhaps be taken with a pinch of salt, unless I've missed a major announcement.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 March, 2018, 08:15:26 PM


Karl Urban mentioned this directing claim 4 years ago at a Q&A session before a screening of DREDD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vitm9XgMPKY&t=13m56s
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richard on 07 March, 2018, 10:48:43 PM
Quote*Note: This story has been corrected to omit the Netflix reference for Mega-City One. The show is still in development and not yet connected to a network
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Third Estate Ned on 17 March, 2018, 03:14:14 PM
Saw this on The Quietus, thought I'd share it:

Who directed 2012's Dredd? Was it, as star Karl Urban recently suggested, really Alex Garland? What does it matter? And what do the differences with 1995's Judge Dredd tells us about the future of the comic adaptation?

[url]http://thequietus.com/articles/24227-dredd-judge-dredd-karl-urban-alex-garland/[url]
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Third Estate Ned on 17 March, 2018, 03:17:19 PM
Sorry, second attempt at the link because I couldn't edit.

thequietus.com/articles/24227-dredd-judge-dredd-karl-urban-alex-garland (http://thequietus.com/articles/24227-dredd-judge-dredd-karl-urban-alex-garland)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 17 March, 2018, 03:25:46 PM
Quote from: Third Estate Ned on 17 March, 2018, 03:17:19 PM
Sorry, second attempt at the link because I couldn't edit.

thequietus.com/articles/24227-dredd-judge-dredd-karl-urban-alex-garland (http://thequietus.com/articles/24227-dredd-judge-dredd-karl-urban-alex-garland)

Excellent article that are completely inline with my feelings on the film.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Steve Green on 14 April, 2018, 11:44:31 AM
Interview with Ben Salisbury, Geoff Barrow and Alex Garland recorded at a screening of Annihilation.

Covers the Drokk soundtrack

https://audioboom.com/posts/6804339-episode-85-alex-garland-geoff-barrow-ben-salisbury-contains-spoilers (https://audioboom.com/posts/6804339-episode-85-alex-garland-geoff-barrow-ben-salisbury-contains-spoilers)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richard on 25 May, 2019, 12:10:36 AM
This is on Film4 right now.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 01 June, 2019, 08:03:07 PM
I saw this on Facebook. Not sure if already posted. Its an interview with John Wagner.

https://www.shropshirestar.com/entertainment/features/2019/06/01/the-dawn-of-the-dredd-meet-comic-book-writer-john-wagner/?fbclid=IwAR36H_RjQvGUk3nar8DpXHYGiNd6Ko1gQDwkVDPRNGEImuTl-Nr7i1nXAVg
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: DrRocka on 01 June, 2019, 08:55:41 PM
"I'm not intending to do many more" 😢
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 02 June, 2019, 11:12:50 AM
Quote from: DrRocka on 01 June, 2019, 08:55:41 PM
"I'm not intending to do many more" 😢

Such news is, of course, disappointing but we've still got a few more episodes to look forward to and a treasure trove of Wagner's work to go Thrill Factor Overload over. John Wagner's done his service above and beyond the call of duty in my estimation.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 02 June, 2019, 03:40:18 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 02 June, 2019, 11:12:50 AM
Quote from: DrRocka on 01 June, 2019, 08:55:41 PM
"I'm not intending to do many more" 😢

Such news is, of course, disappointing but we've still got a few more episodes to look forward to and a treasure trove of Wagner's work to go Thrill Factor Overload over. John Wagner's done his service above and beyond the call of duty in my estimation.

He's certainly earned his long walk and then some!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 27 March, 2021, 05:25:59 PM
Well, I never thought I'd post here again but I found out yesterday that Dredd was on Netflix and had my fourth watch, after a healthy gap of a few years.  Nothing will compare with my experience of watching it in 3D in an Imax cinema, but the film is just as great as it always was.

Having listened to the new Penguin audiobooks, and having tried to Toby Longworth's Dredd out of my mind (though he was a million times better than whoever did Dredd in the old radio plays), I still think Karl Urban does Dredd's voice better than anyone else. 

And for all the flying blood and guts and horror, it's kind of a beautiful film.  It's an incredible feat, and one which I hadn't really appreciated before, that a grey, grimy and not particularly futuristic-looking setting, coupled with the haunting score, can be made to look aesthetically stunning.  Wouldn't want to live in Peach Trees, mind you.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 25 July, 2021, 07:24:57 PM
Well, of course, 2000AD celebrates an astonishing milestone next year, as it signals forty five years since its first publication.
Less significant maybe, but none the less impressive, it'll be ten years since the superb Dredd movie tore up cinema screens in 2012!!!!

Wow, can it really be that long ago since I sat eagerly awaiting, something I never expected to see if I'm perfectly honest, a second Judge Dredd movie at the cinema?'
And by grud, was I happier than a fattie in munce after the film had finished rolling, or screening at least, pretty much everything was digital by that stage!!!

Any hoo, I'm as curious as Old Stoney Face himself to see, a decade on, how or if Rebellion will mark this event.
Maybe a lovely hardback omnibus of all the spinoff Dredd movie comics, with a newly commissioned cover by concept artist of the film, Jock or even a brand new story set in the movieverse?
It would be really nice if Entertainment In Film in the UK gave us a decent physical release this time around too, preferably with newly commissioned art and in a Steelbook, like other territories have received, perhaps even a 4K release?

Regardless, I hope something is done to pay tribute to what I, and I'm sure others, consider to be a modern Sci-Fi/Action classic and up there with some of the very best in the genre.  :)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 29 July, 2021, 02:31:05 PM
Blimey, ten years since DREDD last graced the Movie screen. So much has changed, yet the world has become more like Mega-City One in that time, proof to me that DREDD was ahead of its time. It seems a Neo-Medievalist style future may be on the cards, with Nation-states retreating or breaking up into smaller regions with plenty of scope for Authoritarians to get their wicked way. Let's hope Judge Dredd is just fiction, a horrifying warning of what may be rather than an accurate vision of a bleak future.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: milstar on 29 July, 2021, 03:59:26 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 29 July, 2021, 02:31:05 PM
Blimey, ten years since DREDD last graced the Movie screen. So much has changed, yet the world has become more like Mega-City One in that time, proof to me that DREDD was ahead of its time. It seems a Neo-Medievalist style future may be on the cards, with Nation-states retreating or breaking up into smaller regions with plenty of scope for Authoritarians to get their wicked way. Let's hope Judge Dredd is just fiction, a horrifying warning of what may be rather than an accurate vision of a bleak future.

Dredd comics often have a foreshadowing take on the future. But it's maybe for the better. The whole world seems on going on what HG Wells proposed and that is one world government. And when i see what's going on in some areas in the globe, I am happy where I live in.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: dweezil2 on 14 August, 2021, 12:08:27 AM
How about this drokking cool Dredd poster by Ruiz Burgos?
Whack that on a Blu-ray/4K Steelbook for the 10th anniversary next September and I shall definitely multiple dip!!!!  :)
(https://i.postimg.cc/9Qhv2K25/HJe1q-g0.jpg)
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeurko on 06 November, 2022, 10:08:49 PM
An anniversary screening https://princecharlescinema.com/PrinceCharlesCinema.dll/WhatsOn?f=3084475&utm_source=NEWSLETTER&utm_medium=EMAIL&utm_campaign=DREDD
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Angry Vince on 25 November, 2022, 03:35:26 AM
I feel like Giant Freaking Robot is punking us here -

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/exclusive-dredd-2-happening-karl-urban.html (https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/exclusive-dredd-2-happening-karl-urban.html)

I'm posting in the knowledge the GFR are known for their clickbait, but with the 0.1% of 0.1% hope that maybe, just maybe....

So can anyone burst my tiny, fragile bubble or is there some sort of corroboration?
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 25 November, 2022, 08:00:44 AM
Sounds like a big slice of Billy Bullshit to me.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richmond Clements on 25 November, 2022, 08:38:00 AM
GFR are utter bullshit merchants. Don't click on the link.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 25 November, 2022, 08:40:02 AM
The bait is incredibly weak in GFR.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 25 November, 2022, 10:30:50 AM
Well, we'll have to wait and see, but I'm not getting my hopes up...despite the story getting my hopes up.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: paddykafka on 25 November, 2022, 02:45:46 PM
Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 25 November, 2022, 08:40:02 AM
The bait is incredibly weak in GFR.

So weak, that no one has even bothered to post up the Mad Max "That's Bait" meme.  :)
Title: Dredd 2 moving forward
Post by: Tarantino on 25 November, 2022, 07:16:03 PM
[This and a few other messages have been merged from another thread — IP]

Hi Everyone

It's been a while since I've posted on here. I'm just wondering if any of you have heard an update regarding Dredd 2 happening. I've just read a recent news report on the Giant Freaking Robot website, which appears to be recent, saying that their trusted sources have reported that Dredd 2 is "moving forward" and that Karl Urban is involved. I'm not sure if they are rehashing old stories or if this is new information. To be clear they are not talking about the TV series but a Dredd 2 movie. I've included a link to this story. Does anyone else have any other information?

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/exclusive-dredd-2-happening-karl-urban.html

Tarantino

Title: Re: Dredd 2 moving forward
Post by: Lawman of the Present on 25 November, 2022, 07:28:37 PM
I've seen no update on the movie, show, or even the Uprising experience in years. The latter I assume by now is canned? :(
Title: Re: Dredd 2 moving forward
Post by: Leigh S on 25 November, 2022, 08:21:44 PM
I am Dredd 2 and so is my wife
Title: Re: Dredd 2 moving forward
Post by: lincnash on 26 November, 2022, 04:06:30 AM
Quote from: Leigh S on 25 November, 2022, 08:21:44 PM
I am Dredd 2 and so is my wife

I'll thump him if he calls me Dredd 2 again.
Title: Re: Dredd 2 moving forward
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 26 November, 2022, 08:27:59 AM
Quote from: Lawman of the Present on 25 November, 2022, 07:28:37 PM
The latter I assume by now is canned? :(

Pretty sure Covid saw that last one off... :-(
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 28 November, 2022, 08:38:53 AM
Sadly, The Peach Trees Restaurant, the inspiration for the Tower Block name in the 2012 Movie, is to close down.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-63759870?at_bbc_team=editorial&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_campaign_type=owned&at_format=link&at_link_id=90380196-6CE9-11ED-AFE7-6A904744363C&at_link_origin=bbcmtd&at_link_type=web_link&at_medium=social&at_ptr_name=twitter&xtor=AL-73-%5Bpartner%5D-%5BBBC+England%5D-%5Bheadline%5D-%5Bnews%5D-%5Bbizdev%5D-%5Bisapi%5D
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Tomwe on 28 November, 2022, 02:53:17 PM
Lists no sources, but claims Dredd sequel has signed up Urban. Could it happen? Is this just clickbait? https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/exclusive-dredd-2-happening-karl-urban.html
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richard on 28 November, 2022, 02:56:52 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 25 November, 2022, 08:38:00 AM
GFR are utter bullshit merchants. Don't click on the link.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 28 November, 2022, 03:56:00 PM
Ahem.

https://twitter.com/molcher/status/1596955622058397698

Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: judgeurko on 04 December, 2022, 11:28:35 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 28 November, 2022, 03:56:00 PM
Ahem.

https://twitter.com/molcher/status/1596955622058397698
More chance of the tv show being made.
Title: Re: Dredd (2012)
Post by: Richard on 08 April, 2023, 12:20:17 AM
Dredd is on now on Film4.