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Just curious, does Rebellion have an offical way to buy it's original art, or do the artists keep control of it so they can sell it at their disgresion?


I'd like to look into buying some Savage original art.

I picked up a copy of ABC Warriors: The Black Hole last wendsday and noticed there's this huge gab between it and the previous volumes.  Apparently it's filled with a Nemesis the Warlock crossover.


So, what am I missing?  and is it collected in the Nemesis the Warlock hardcover from Titan?

I just noticed 236 ends ALL of the current stories, which means all new material in 237.


Anyone know what we're looking forward to in 237?



Also, I'm lost reading Young Middenface.  Who the heck is he? What is this all about?

Thanks

While thumbing through the many creator listings looking for what Paul Grist has done for 2000 A.D. (which I was lead too thanks to Megazine 233's Robbie Morrison artical, Paul Grist is one of my favorite artist/writers) I ran into the listing for Crisis Magazine that he did art in.

So what was it? Another 2000 A.D. Comic Magazine spin off?

WOO!

I picked up this months edition of Diamond Previews (the primary US Comicbook distribution catalog) and what do I see in the Rebellion Solicitation section?

Judge Dredd: Satan's Island TP
Rogue Trooper: Eye of the Traitor TP

HURRA! the new Rebellion Trades are coming to the US and all is right with the world! I was worried about their avalibilty for a little while there.

Also apparently Rebellion is soliciting the 'Euro Trade'   The Family HC.  But it's $16 for 56 pages, and that's highway robbery no matter what side of the Atlantic you're on...

Still, more 2000 AD Trades to look forward too, tis a good day.

Because of the lag time on this side of the Atlantic I only just got this prog this week.

General impresions...

Judge Dredd: Darkside: This is pretty entertaining, it felt like a John Smith script had a kind of "Devlin Waugh" vib going through the whole thing.  Luna-1 is an interesting place, with the "international" collition of Judges that control it.  I can't wait to see that place again in the upcoming BREATHING SPACE
.  Isn't that story supposed to involve Lunar Zombies as well?  Speaking of which the one thing I was confused about in this yarn was the whole "Zombie Dredd" thing, what exactly was 'he' trying to do going back to the future?


Colony Earth: Good clean late 70s sci-fi nonsense.  I love this crazy cheese to death, one of the reasons I love 2000 AD so much is that there's all this backlog of matterial from almost 3 decades I'm catching up on.  There's always something new.
Current 2000 AD needs more of these "B movie plot" strips IMO.  Maybe with a little tighter writing that the modern age brings us.



As it stands the Extreme Editions are my second favorite 2000 AD mag after the Weekly.  For some reason I have a harder time getting into the Megazine, I THINK it might because it's all about Dredd and Mega City 1's Earth and time, which while interesting, isn't my favorite part of 2000 AD.

What issue number was their first on the 2000 AD line anyway?

just curious.

Just curious, Judges "Are the Law" and all that, but from what I've seen Megacity-1 is like a Police State where the Judges can make almost any excuse to do as they please to any Citizen in pursuit of a criminal.


Do the people of Megacity-1 have any rights against the might of the Judges?

June is heading to its inevitable conclution, meaning the year is half over.  

So, I feel, its a good time to take a look back on 2000 A.D. of the first half the year.

This was my first year with 2000 AD, I started reading right around January.  Being so new it's hard for me to compare this year to anything that came before it.  But my general feeling is 2000 AD is everything I've been missing in the majority of US produced comics, good solid Science Fiction on a regular basis.

Judge Dredd has impressed me more then I ever hoped it would, here is a character in a world that can do ANYTHING.  From Over the Top Action to Drama to Social Commentary and out right parody, a genre mash fan's dream.

I really really liked Low Life, The V.C.s* (espessialy that ending, can't wait to see where that goes), and Nikolai Dante.

In the average catagory
Second City Blues, I feel, missed the mark, and I like quarky "weird Sci-Fi" ususaly.
Caballistics Inc. I feel I should like, but it just doesn't click fully.  It's good, but not great.
I can see how much potencial Sinister Dexter has, but it seems it ended up all filler this first half of the year.
American Gothic was good but felt rushed toward the end.  Needed a few more Progs.

Frankly I just couldn't get into Slain, maybe it's my general uninterest in the Fantasy genre, or maybe it was just overly dull. Probably a combination of both.  
As much as I want to like it, Bec & Kawl just misses the mark EVERY TIME.  It should be the greatest, but it's not.  Unfortunatly.

In all I got everything I wanted out of 2000 AD.  Varity and good storytelling with Wizzbang art.  I'm sure I'll be onboard for a good long time.


*Question, is it worth tracking down the first V.C. volumes?  Are they any good?  Do you think Rebellion will rerelease the first series in a single Trade at some point?

As some of you know I'm still realativaly new to 2000 AD as a whole and one of the ways I'm catching up on....decades...worth of missed matterial is devoring the 2000 AD Extreme Edtions.  On the whole I have to say I'm compleatly enthralled by it's contents, in perticular the early early stuff like The Book of Flesh, Ant Wars, Invasion!, and more to the point of this thread M.A.C.H.1.

I can see how on the surface John Probe is little more then a Six Million Dollor Man rip, BUT I can also see the potencial the character and setting that set it appart in it's own unique ways.

With the apparent success of Savage, building off Invasion!, perhaps now is a prime time to resurect the character and world of M.A.C.H.1.

I'm not sure I'm the best expert on the idea, with only the two EEs under my belt, but I've thought about it and if it was to come back I'd like it to pick up where the first series left off, with Fred the Alien resurecting John Probe a few days after his fatal gunshot wound.  For flavor I'd keep it set in the "Super-Science 70s", with Fred taking over Sharpe's old role in sending John out on secret missions for secret purposses.  I'd make John's onboard Computer more of a character with it and Fred having a kind of ongoing dialoge.  From there it's Over the top Action/Adventure with espionage intrigue while John searches for the secrets of past and unravels a new mystery about just what Fred and his people are up too, and just what happened in that mountain town that got destroyed by that other flying saucer.


Yeah I've thought about this a bit to much....infact I have this script I'm writing, as a writing excercise, of the first Prog of my take on the consept.

What about you guys? Clearly alot of you will have deeper and different thoughts on the character as you've known his stories forever.

Wow, I'm just full of new posts today...

I'm just curious if there is any chance of a US based writer ever producing stories for 2000AD.  I'm a Sci-Fi nut with dozens of potencial stories in my head and was thinking of fireing off a few "Future Shocks" or "Terror Tales" Tharg's way as per the Submission Guidelines.

Will I get looked at same as everyone else?  Or will they take one look at my US postage and Circular File it?  I'm always looking for ways to break into the comics industry and 2000AD seems to tackle the genres I like to write most in a format I love.

I noticed while going through some back issue of 2000AD, starting at Prog 1370 and going back the shape of the Magazing is compleatly different then it currently is.  It's narrower.

How long did the Magazine have this shape?  and can I assume any reprint matterial (Shakara spesificly) from that period will also be narrow shaped, and compleatly different from all my DC/2000AD reprint matterial?

Just wondering.

I'm checking out the contents of Prog 1438 and it looks like all the current story arcs are wraping up.  Leaving Prog 1439 for a slew of new "Part 1s"

Any Idea what those Thrills might be? as I want to start an Internet push to get people reading 2000AD here in the US.  Since the issue will be coming out about a month or so from now here.

Over the last month or so I've picked up a Stack of those DC Trades reprinting 2000AD matterial.  I figured...hey I'm new too 2000AD so why not through my thoughts of each up on the 2000AD message board.

So here we go...

Nikolia Dante: The Romanov Dynasty/The Great Game - Nikolia Dante ended up being the first 2000AD trade I picked up, partly by acident, and partly because my hunger for "European Comics" was growing thanks to discovering the Humanoids albums thanks to DC.  I quickly relised that I'd been dooped, 2000AD wasn't like Humanoids at all, it was something entirly different, in an fantastic way.  Pure unadulted Science Fantasy, of the type I can NOT get over here States side in satisfactory quantities.  Nikolai Dante was my first taste of 2000AD and continues to be a favorite of mine.  Nikolai's high flying adventures in cutthrougt Politics is just what the docotor ordered, and I can't think of a single story arc in either volume that wasn't entertaining.  It's definitly one of the first books I recomend when pushing the 2000AD line on other American readers.

Skizz - I'm not an Alan Moore fanatic by any means, his mainstream work that seems to get all the raves over here in the US, like The Watchmen, really never did anything for me.  They're good, but not really...raving awesome.  But I do like Alan Moore, his work on Tom Strong, Promethia, and Top 10 are pretty entertaining.  I went in to Skizz looking to take a look as his early work, and that's exactly what I got.  I liked how he made Skizz alien, he didn't understand our world one bit for most of the book.  The main characters were pretty interesting as well, with alot of depth.  Except for the main bad guy, he was a seriously cardboard villain, a batshit "Everyone different is out to get me"/"Those damn commies are stealing all the water" is a pretty tired consept.  But maybe it wasn't in 1982 UK, I don't know I wasn't there.  Still it was a pretty solid "Stranger in a Strange Land" story with solid art.

Bad Company: Goodbye, Krool World - I have mixed feelings on this book, the first story 'Bad Company' was awesome, I loved the Behind the Frontlines approch and how any character could die at any instant.  It was a good Sci-Fi war tale that had a kinda weak ending.  Now Bad Company 2....I don't know what happened, but they took a great story and removed everything that made it interesting and shat something out that was supposed to sound philisophical.  Kano's quest for his brain and Danny becoming the, already lamn, Krool Heart was just too much stupid to discribe.  Good art all around though.

Rogue Trooper: The Future of War - Lattly I've had a real interest in 2000AD's early Progs, I don't really know why, maybe it's the Black and White art, or a nostogic trip back to the days of campy plots and hackeyed dialog, I don't know.  All I do know is Rogue Trooper is pound for pound the most consintrated book of 'Camp' I've ever read.  Don't get me wrong, I love the setting, the style, and I'm a sucked for War stories, espesaly Future War stories.  But damn, this book is full of Expossition Dialog, inane plots, and random Improbible situations escaped at the last second.  And for some reason I dig it all.

Strontium Dog: The Early Cases - Now here was an interesting book, like Rogue Trooper I was looking for a look at the early days of 2000AD, but what I found was something a little better writen but still chauk full of those little bits of '70s camp.  Johnny and Wulf are a class act action duo in a really over the top future.  What I was really shocked to discover was Johnny's "Cute Sidekick" Gronk.  I would have never suspected such a character in a book like Strontium Dog. Then I remembered...it was the 70s, everyone had cute bubbling sidekicks.  One the whole I really liked the 'Galaxy Killers' story, but found 'Journey Into Hell' to drag on way way too long, and 'Deaths Head' was just really weird with it's Timetravel plot.  A good fun book all around with, again, exceptional art.

which brings me to pound for pound my favorite 2000AD book so far.

Robo-Hunter: Verdus/Day of the Droids - Wow, I don't know what to say, but this is the craziest over the top comic series I've ever incountered.  Verdus was like The Wizard of Oz on crack and Day of the Droids is....er..well I havn't read it all yet, as I just got it yeasterday, but it's so far pretty crazy.  Sam Slade just can't catch a break from the world coming down around him.  It's funny, it's action packed, it's somewhat dramatic...in funny ways! It's probibly one of my favorite reads of the year.  At it's nearly 30 years old!


So yeah, I've been reading alot, and 2000AD his rapidly climed my charts to be a high contender of "Best Comic Company Ever"  Which is strange as a year ago I had barly heard of it, and completly ignored it based on my, compleatly wrong, belive that Judge Dredd was stupid (it was that damned movie, I swear bad movies blind me to more good stuff then anything else)  I've got on the ball and now pick up 2000AD, Judge Dredd Megazine, and 2000AD Extreme Edition regulary and still have a stack of DC reprints in my pull box at the local comic shop plus the last of the DC new orders.  I can't wait to read them all.  2000AD ROCKS.

When I was first introduced to Invasion through 2000AD Extrme Ed. I enjoyed it, hackeyed diolog, inane plots, and all.  But I got a sense early that the Vogans were nothing more then thinly veiled Soviet anologs with the serial numbers filed off.


But then I got to Savage and it was spessificly established that the Vogans were definitly a Russian group, in this case a Facist Political Group that took over the wake of the Soviet Union colapse.

My question is, was it ever actualy established that the Vogans were Russian in the original Invasion series or was that a recon as of Savage to take into account all the changes to Russia with the end of the Cold War?

I'm still fairly new to 2000AD on the whole, and I'm noticing that there are a number of referances to Judges in a few 2000AD Progs, as well as the fact the Year certain Progs take place in seem to be noted more often then not as though they are important.

Are most Progs "in continuity with each other" in that they all take place along the same timeline?  EX: Dredd, Nikolai Dante, Rogue Trooper, and the ABC Warriors all take place along the same timeline.

Or does it vary?  Or are they all independent from each other?

I'm some what currious/confussed on this subject.

Ack.  I've been searching the net for 2000AD, Judge Dredd Megazine, and 2000AD Extreme Edition back issues and I can not find anyplace on the web to order from a wide selection that isn't based in the UK.  I just can't aford to pay overseas shipping prices at this point (or I'd just order through 2000ADonline.com itsefl) Milehighcomics.com has absultly Nothing and neither does Mycomicshop.com.  Does anyone else have any Idea were to look?

Either in 2000AD Extreme Edition or under their new DC printed TPB line.

I'm still really new to 2000AD's line up so I have nothing to add (though I'd pay for DC reprints of Invasion and M.A.C.H 1, I've enjoyed what I've read in the Extreme Editions, and I think the DC reprints so far have a real slick trade dress and book dimentions for my bookshelf)

What about you guys?  Who accualty long for certain stories to be released in complete albums?

Recently I've discovered a very deep enjoyment of comics produced in Europe, it started slowly with picking up a few of DC Comics releases of Humanoids albums, stuff like The Technopriests, The Incal, and Freddy Lombard really struck a cord with me in ways American comics rarely do any more.

Since then I've picked up a few of the DC/2000AD reprints and found those rocked pretty hard core too, Nikola Dante, Skizz, and Rogue Trooper currently sit on my bookshelf, with a mountain of backorders at the local comic shop on the way.  I've been picking up 2000AD regularly now, along with 2000AD Extreme and Judge Dread Megazine, and I cannot get enough.  Apparently the best in Science Fantasy comics could out of Europe, a genre that is very lacking over here States side.

It's just really cool to see all these works I've never encountered before and find them so readily available for the first time.  It's certainly one of the most important comic discoveries I've had in awhile.

Can't wait to read even more, getting two issues of 2000AD every two weeks is a great experience at the local shop, something I don't get from any American made comicbook.

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