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Title: Butchered Songs
Post by: GrinningChimera on 12 May, 2014, 08:52:28 AM

Busta Rhymes - This Means War (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1yWgW-u4xc&feature=kp)


Puff Daddy/P Diddy/Diddy -Come With Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxuodY-c0yU)

Any more classic songs that you feel have been ruined? Yes I know that both Jimmy Page and Ozzy Osbourne were involved with those songs above. That still doesn't make it right though.
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: Charlie boy on 12 May, 2014, 11:55:23 AM
Oasis I Am The Walrus
Going by the date I would have been around ten when I first saw this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9DnjNfxg_A
performance. I would have liked Oasis at the time, then my older brother played me the original and it was the start of me going right off them. Walrus has been butchered by Jim Carrey and I believe Russel Brand since (with Oasis ruining Bowie's Heroes and Beatles' Helter Skelter somewhere in between) but this track will probably always be my first memory of hearing a terrible cover- even if I had never heard the original beforehand.
Before I sign out- anybody planning on posting Bowie and Jagger's Dancing In The Street should be warned I will take thee down Liam Neeson 'Taken' style. I absolutely loved that song as a youngster- mostly down to the video if I recall- and when it pops up on something every couple of years I can't help but cheer in a manner which I'm not even sure could be described as being ironic.
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 12 May, 2014, 11:59:27 AM
Quote from: Charlie boy on 12 May, 2014, 11:55:23 AMI absolutely loved that song as a youngster- mostly down to the video if I recall- and when it pops up on something every couple of years I can't help but cheer in a manner which I'm not even sure could be described as being ironic.

We were obsessed with that video when we were teens for whatever reason. It's just so silly. SO SILLY.

There are so many terrible covers but this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxoRHqc1iDk) always gets my dander up - and I HATED that Kid Rock Skynyrd song where he just lazily stripped out the melody of Sweet Home Alabama and sang over it. Ugh.
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: Keef Monkey on 12 May, 2014, 12:02:45 PM
Thanks to Bill Hicks, I will never be able to hear Behind Blue Eyes without singing along about a dustbin in Shaftesbury.
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: Charlie boy on 12 May, 2014, 12:10:42 PM
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 12 May, 2014, 11:59:27 AM
There are so many terrible covers but this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxoRHqc1iDk) always gets my dander up
Oh thank you very much, CFM- thanks to you, I've now had Limp Bizkit playing on my laptop speakers! For all future posters to this thread, the polite thing to do may be to include a warning in your message...
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 12 May, 2014, 12:14:48 PM
I thought if I just said it people would be like "oh I don't remember that being that awful it's just a fairly straightforward cover of it" but then you click through and Fred Durst's face is there and then he just starts making out with Halle Berry and you're like I know this was a decade ago now but ...

HOW DID WE GET TO THAT POINT.
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: Charlie boy on 12 May, 2014, 12:17:10 PM
What got me was the very start of the video. I have the impression we're supposed to think something along the lines of Oooh, sexy Durst...
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: TordelBack on 12 May, 2014, 12:42:05 PM
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 12 May, 2014, 11:59:27 AM... I HATED that Kid Rock Skynyrd song where he just lazily stripped out the melody of Sweet Home Alabama and sang over it.

This one is inexplicably popular as muzak.  Many's the the time I've paused  to wonder why:
"..Caught somewhere between a boy and man/
She was seventeen and she was far from in-between"
...is playing on continuous loop in a toy shop and all I can conclude is that someone upstream thinks it's the far superior original.
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: 8-Ball on 12 May, 2014, 07:52:23 PM
It is sad when a song begins like this...

http://youtu.be/wrIP3DpYOV0 (http://youtu.be/wrIP3DpYOV0)

then turns into this...

http://youtu.be/ppYgrdJ0pWk (http://youtu.be/ppYgrdJ0pWk)

but then is warped into this...

http://youtu.be/u8CMsQ-p1ls (http://youtu.be/u8CMsQ-p1ls)

:'(

And they are repeat offenders!

http://youtu.be/PSoOFn3wQV4 (http://youtu.be/PSoOFn3wQV4)   versus    http://youtu.be/aztY_fpjJeQ (http://youtu.be/aztY_fpjJeQ)
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: Frank on 12 May, 2014, 08:18:53 PM

Remember to squeeze your arse cheeks tight during this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EijXqC-B78M#t=140), otherwise you might prolapse. Dylan shat all over that great Hendrix song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgIOsJViUaQ) with similarly strained vocals and odd phrasing.

Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: 8-Ball on 12 May, 2014, 08:24:24 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 12 May, 2014, 08:18:53 PM

Remember to squeeze your arse cheeks tight during this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EijXqC-B78M#t=140), otherwise you might prolapse. Dylan shat all over that great Hendrix song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgIOsJViUaQ) with similarly strained vocals and odd phrasing.

That is my pet peeve with buskers of today. They have watched so much X Factor that they believe that you can only impart feeling and gravitas by "strained vocals and odd phrasing." I makes me so mad. Just bloody sing the song! If people recognise it they will give you money.
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: Charlie boy on 12 May, 2014, 09:10:59 PM
Seeing a post mentioning Dylan and strained vocals immediately brought the Guns N Roses cover of Knockin' On Heaven's Door to mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tmc8rJgxUI
Use Your Illusion 2 was actually the first album I ever purchased (I was too young to see Terminator 2 on the pictures but I could make up for it by buying the album with a song from the soundtrack on it) and although I liked the album, this song stood out for all the wrong reasons.
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: Sideshow Bob on 12 May, 2014, 09:34:18 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 12 May, 2014, 08:18:53 PM

Remember to squeeze your arse cheeks tight during this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EijXqC-B78M#t=140), otherwise you might prolapse. Dylan shat all over that great Hendrix song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgIOsJViUaQ) with similarly strained vocals and odd phrasing.

Some quite dreadful covers featured so far, but FFS !!  Sauchie........a little warning that it was Peter Gabriel murdering We Could be Heroes,  would have been helpful mate ! ....That's the second time I've listened to that f*****g C**p !! .......
I think you posted it somewhere else as well......And to be honest,  hearing it once was bad enough,  but TWICE.... :'(
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: Frank on 12 May, 2014, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 12 May, 2014, 12:02:45 PM
Thanks to Bill Hicks, I will never be able to hear Behind Blue Eyes without singing along about a dustbin in Shaftesbury ...

... with hoo-li-ga-aa-ns (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xc1Rt93bN0). Hicks knew a bad cover version when he heard it: y'all don't see how fake that is? Well, gee Bill, he won a grammy ... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmfOzFzYumo)

Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: Frank on 12 May, 2014, 09:39:37 PM
Quote from: Sideshow Bob on 12 May, 2014, 09:34:18 PM
Sauchie........a little warning that it was Peter Gabriel murdering We Could be Heroes,  would have been helpful. I think you posted it somewhere else as well......And to be honest,  hearing it once was bad enough,  but TWICE...

Telly used it at the weekend as muzak for one of their end of season English Premiership montages. If I have to suffer, you all have to suffer.

Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: Fungus on 13 May, 2014, 12:48:09 AM
Hm, I fail to link to MOST of these videos, something about Sony and 'your country'. More frustrating because I've - grudgingly - adopted Chrome, in order to get ANY joy with video links. Grrr.
Perhaps using a phone puts me in the minority.
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: 8-Ball on 14 May, 2014, 10:09:37 PM
It amazes me that something can sound so cool as this...

http://youtu.be/ZtWTUt2RZh0 (http://youtu.be/ZtWTUt2RZh0)

can be ruined in such a way as this...

http://youtu.be/EH9meoWmAOM (http://youtu.be/EH9meoWmAOM)

>:(
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: 8-Ball on 14 May, 2014, 10:29:55 PM
Actually don't get me started on Coldplay and their magpie ways.

Pixies - Where Is My Mind
http://youtu.be/qrdpliMfoAM (http://youtu.be/qrdpliMfoAM)

when gussied up sounds like this:

http://youtu.be/-7oMvuzbDic (http://youtu.be/-7oMvuzbDic)

and also sounds a bit like this:

http://youtu.be/k4V3Mo61fJM (http://youtu.be/k4V3Mo61fJM)
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 15 May, 2014, 10:10:06 AM
Thanks.  Browsing this thread made me recall the horror of All Saints covering 'Under the Bridge'.  Up to now I had locked it away in a part of my brain marked 'NEVER TO BE RECALLED'.

If you don't want to face this horror, don't click this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fNkYYxvk-Q

Oh god, even the destruction of the awesome riff at the start makes me want to scream!!!!    >:(
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: TordelBack on 15 May, 2014, 10:17:43 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 15 May, 2014, 10:10:06 AM
Thanks.  Browsing this thread made me recall the horror of All Saints covering 'Under the Bridge'.  Up to now I had locked it away in a part of my brain marked 'NEVER TO BE RECALLED'.

There's seldom been a successful girl-group as resolutely talentless as All Saints*, and this is one of their most embarrassing dirges.  But I have to admit that Melanie Blatt (?) looks very nice in that otherwise ghastly video.


*yes, I'm including Atomic Kitten and B*Witched in this.
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: JamesC on 15 May, 2014, 01:02:25 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 15 May, 2014, 10:17:43 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 15 May, 2014, 10:10:06 AM
Thanks.  Browsing this thread made me recall the horror of All Saints covering 'Under the Bridge'.  Up to now I had locked it away in a part of my brain marked 'NEVER TO BE RECALLED'.

There's seldom been a successful girl-group as resolutely talentless as All Saints*, and this is one of their most embarrassing dirges.  But I have to admit that Melanie Blatt (?) looks very nice in that otherwise ghastly video.


*yes, I'm including Atomic Kitten and B*Witched in this.

The Jenny Frost incarnation of Atomic Kitten weren't too bad - mainly because Jenny Frost was in it and she's awesome.

I think the Spice Girls are worse than Atomic Kitten. I don't think they ever released a decent record.
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 15 May, 2014, 02:35:27 PM
Quote from: JamesC on 15 May, 2014, 01:02:25 PM
I think the Spice Girls are worse than Atomic Kitten. I don't think they ever released a decent record.

I had the dubious pleasure of being dragged to the cinema by my girlfriend of the time to see Spiceworld.  Fuck me, that's a dreadful film.  If ever you want an example of a disgustingly obvious cash-in, that's it.  She loved it.

I got my own back by taking her to see all three re-releases of the original Star Wars trilogy.  She hated it.

Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: Ghost MacRoth on 15 May, 2014, 03:26:50 PM
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 12 May, 2014, 11:59:27 AM
I HATED that Kid Rock Skynyrd song where he just lazily stripped out the melody of Sweet Home Alabama and sang over it. Ugh.

No, he shat on both sweet home Alabama, AND Warren Zevon's 'Werewolves of London'. 
I'd hate for the full extent of his shiteness to be overlooked.


Quote from: sauchie on 12 May, 2014, 08:18:53 PM
Dylan shat all over that great Hendrix song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgIOsJViUaQ) with similarly strained vocals and odd phrasing.

Erm...it was actually Dylan's song covered by Hendrix....but hey, that undoubtedly won't make any difference to which you prefer. ;)
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 15 May, 2014, 04:35:46 PM
When I first heard the Scissor Sisters version of Comfortably Numb, I just assumed it was some kind of novelty comedy song from the internet instead of a serious artistic endeavor by an actual band.
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 15 May, 2014, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: Mister Pops on 15 May, 2014, 04:35:46 PM
When I first heard the Scissor Sisters version of Comfortably Numb, I just assumed it was some kind of novelty comedy song from the internet instead of a serious artistic endeavor by an actual band.

Hey, I really liked that cover!  Ok, the original is up there with 'best tracks of all time ever', but I really enjoyed their take on it. 
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: hippynumber1 on 16 May, 2014, 02:16:51 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 12 May, 2014, 08:18:53 PM

Remember to squeeze your arse cheeks tight during this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EijXqC-B78M#t=140), otherwise you might prolapse. Dylan shat all over that great Hendrix song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgIOsJViUaQ) with similarly strained vocals and odd phrasing.

It was the other way round, I believe. Bob Dylan wrote and recorded 'All Along the Watchtower' first for his album 'John Wesley Harding'; it appeared on Hendrix's 'Electric Ladyland' nearly a year later...
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: Frank on 16 May, 2014, 06:12:02 PM

You're all fact ninjas, chaps, but I was trying (and failing) to be funny. The cover versions I despise most are examples of Jo Wiley Live Lounge Syndrome - where white indie acts take soul, hip hop, rock, or electronic tunes and subject them to the stripped down, just vocals and a guitar treatment. It's meant to highlight the craft of song writing, but always strikes me more as asserting the primacy of a pernicious, homogenising aesthetic, and a smugly ironic laugh up the sleeve at stuff that isn't REAL MUSIC.

That aesthetic's so ubiquitous nowadays that girl singers with breathy vocals covering old songs on acoustic guitars are the new default choice of music on TV adverts, particularly for the type of amorphous and useless companies who don't actually make anything - telecoms, finance, utility companies ... y'know, evil, cynical bottom feeders. It's as if they have to use such whimsical, fey accompaniment to stop you thinking about how they have absolutely no social utility whatsoever.

Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: 8-Ball on 16 May, 2014, 06:24:50 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 16 May, 2014, 06:12:02 PM

You're all fact ninjas, chaps, but I was trying (and failing) to be funny. The cover versions I despise most are examples of Jo Wiley Live Lounge Syndrome - where white indie acts take soul, hip hop, rock, or electronic tunes and subject them to the stripped down, just vocals and a guitar treatment. It's meant to highlight the craft of song writing, but always strikes me more as asserting the primacy of a pernicious, homogenising aesthetic, and a smugly ironic laugh up the sleeve at stuff that isn't REAL MUSIC.

That aesthetic's so ubiquitous nowadays that girl singers with breathy vocals covering old songs on acoustic guitars are the new default choice of music on TV adverts, particularly for the type of amorphous and useless companies who don't actually make anything - telecoms, finance, utility companies ... y'know, evil, cynical bottom feeders. It's as if they have to use such whimsical, fey accompaniment to stop you thinking about how they have absolutely no social utility whatsoever.

I thought that it was funny. :lol: I'm just repeating myself but Pop Idol/The X Factor have a lot to answer for. Leona Lewis, Matt Cardle, Alexandra Burke etc. All taking a song and bludgeoning it to death.
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: hippynumber1 on 16 May, 2014, 07:17:49 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 16 May, 2014, 06:12:02 PM

You're all fact ninjas, chaps, but I was trying (and failing) to be funny. The cover versions I despise most are examples of Jo Wiley Live Lounge Syndrome - where white indie acts take soul, hip hop, rock, or electronic tunes and subject them to the stripped down, just vocals and a guitar treatment. It's meant to highlight the craft of song writing, but always strikes me more as asserting the primacy of a pernicious, homogenising aesthetic, and a smugly ironic laugh up the sleeve at stuff that isn't REAL MUSIC.

That aesthetic's so ubiquitous nowadays that girl singers with breathy vocals covering old songs on acoustic guitars are the new default choice of music on TV adverts, particularly for the type of amorphous and useless companies who don't actually make anything - telecoms, finance, utility companies ... y'know, evil, cynical bottom feeders. It's as if they have to use such whimsical, fey accompaniment to stop you thinking about how they have absolutely no social utility whatsoever.

Sorry, I'm very tired today and it flew right over my head, coupled with the fact that, in the past, I've had to physically point to dates on album covers to prove that the Hendrix version wasn't the original... I shall try to sleep soon, I promise.
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: Daveycandlish on 16 May, 2014, 07:36:51 PM
Quote from: Eightball on 12 May, 2014, 07:52:23 PM
It is sad when a song begins like this...

http://youtu.be/wrIP3DpYOV0 (http://youtu.be/wrIP3DpYOV0)

then turns into this...

http://youtu.be/ppYgrdJ0pWk (http://youtu.be/ppYgrdJ0pWk)

but then is warped into this...

http://youtu.be/u8CMsQ-p1ls (http://youtu.be/u8CMsQ-p1ls)

:'(

Of course, the best version of this song can be heard two minutes and 25 seconds in on this clip
http://youtu.be/vUsta2MfVi0
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: mogzilla on 17 May, 2014, 12:13:26 AM
I channel surfed right onto "rock of ages" when cruise is killing "pour some sugar on me"  ::)
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: 8-Ball on 17 May, 2014, 03:49:40 PM
Quote from: mogzilla on 17 May, 2014, 12:13:26 AM
I channel surfed right onto "rock of ages" when cruise is killing "pour some sugar on me"  ::)

To my shame I own that movie on Blu-Ray. I hate to use the term "guilty pleasure" because people like what people like but Pat Benatar's Hit Me With Your Best Shot always makes me swoon.

http://youtu.be/PL5kcy3Hv-Y (http://youtu.be/PL5kcy3Hv-Y)
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: GrinningChimera on 17 May, 2014, 08:09:23 PM
Quote from: Eightball on 17 May, 2014, 03:49:40 PM
To my shame I own that movie on Blu-Ray. I hate to use the term "guilty pleasure" because people like what people like but Pat Benatar's Hit Me With Your Best Shot always makes me swoon.

http://youtu.be/PL5kcy3Hv-Y (http://youtu.be/PL5kcy3Hv-Y)

You are one very sick individual...
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 17 May, 2014, 11:52:47 PM
Quote from: GrinningChimera on 12 May, 2014, 08:52:28 AM
Puff Daddy/P Diddy/Diddy -Come With Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxuodY-c0yU)

Karma, dude. For all those Howlin' Wolf and Willie Dixon swiffs and ripes. And everything else (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyvLsutfI5M).
Title: Re: Butchered Songs
Post by: 8-Ball on 18 May, 2014, 11:56:23 AM
Quote from: GrinningChimera on 17 May, 2014, 08:09:23 PM
Quote from: Eightball on 17 May, 2014, 03:49:40 PM
To my shame I own that movie on Blu-Ray. I hate to use the term "guilty pleasure" because people like what people like but Pat Benatar's Hit Me With Your Best Shot always makes me swoon.

http://youtu.be/PL5kcy3Hv-Y (http://youtu.be/PL5kcy3Hv-Y)

You are one very sick individual...

That is very true. >:D I need to get myself some help. :D