Star Wars Episode IX

[SIP]

Full disclosure,  today it's:

TESB,  ANH,  RotJ,  TLJ,  (CW '03-05),  TPM,  (TCW '08-14)=TFA,  (Rebels), Solo, RotS=R1, AotC, (Droids),  CoC,  (Ewoks), BfE,  THS.

So Episode IX has it all to play for,  really.

I have no idea what half those acronyms mean

I'm not sure if it's a good thing for me to admit.....but I understand the whole list......though certainly not the order they are in. They seem to have got mixed up  .

I was going to put TLJ in dead last place, but notice the inclusion of THS.....regardless, it's still a close thing for me. The survival of the OT cast in THS might just edge it ahead of TLJ. THS ("The Holiday Special") was, up until last year, the most dismal piece of Star wars. There are no super weapons in it though. And it does have an entirely original story... .it's almost entirely unwatchable, more than once.

No separate inclusion of TCW movie? Assuming you are just including it as part of the series (I know it was just some joined up and jazzed up episodes).

Star wars lists.....all good fun 

[JOE SOAP]

It's cartoon Boba Fett (his first time seen in-universe and he's an actual character with agency), Life Day and grandpa Wookie porn, for THS to take its rightful place ahead of the Prequels.

[TordelBack]

No separate inclusion of TCW movie? Assuming you are just including it as part of the series (I know it was just some joined up and jazzed up episodes).

Correct.  Although I note that it's still a separate purchase on DVD, which is a bit shitty (even if it does still clog the bins of shops everywhere)- an extra disc at the front of Season 1 would have been nice.  If I were rating it separately, it'd have to be down near RotS, because outside of the two main battle scenes (Christophsis and the initial assault on the Monastery on Teth), it doesn't really stand the test of time - and compared to the existing first half-dozen episodes of Season 1, it's a bit rubbish: the Tatooine bits, Anakin hopping around on STAPs - I just find myself thinking what a pale lifeless imitation of the Tartakovsky series it is.  Even the TCW episodes that act as prologues to Christophsis are better.

I've tried to see Joe Soap's point about the Boba Fett cartoon, but is surrounded by so very much soul-sapping dreck that I don't think I can even raise The Holiday Special to the level of Caravan of Courage.

[SIP]

The only reason that I rate the clone wars movie as a separate entity is that it did get an official cinema release.....so, as I saw that in the cinema....twice....so,I'd rank it.

It's inclusion of Ventress alone, possibly my favourite clone wars character, elevates it over some ofthe New Star Wars films (mainly as I was still feeling joy for all things star wars  then).

The Holiday Special is almost entirely unwatchable, even I would struggle a little to choose between sitting through it ever again or sitting through last jedi ever again .

[Professor Bear]

I never made it through THS, but I'd agree that TLJ ranks dead last for me even though I wouldn't describe it as the worst installment by any yardstick - it's just that even with objectively terrible entries like AotC I at least wanted to see more, but after TLJ I barely managed to go so see SOLO (and only went in the end because my dad wouldn't go to the cinema on his own to watch something).

[SIP]

I never made it through THS, but I'd agree that TLJ ranks dead last for me even though I wouldn't describe it as the worst installment by any yardstick - it's just that even with objectively terrible entries like AotC I at least wanted to see more, but after TLJ I barely managed to go so see SOLO (and only went in the end because my dad wouldn't go to the cinema on his own to watch something).

Solo was the first time that I ever walked into a star wars movie with an attitude of complete apathy......I did really enjoy it thankfully. I don't have the same desire for episode 9.....but I'm waiting on the trailer.  I just really want to see a crowd pleasing feel good adventure movie. They don't come any more generic and jam-packed with complete scene rehashing as TFA and TLJ, so I guess we're all in for even more of the same, just hopefully with a little more joy and a lot less "your momma" humour.

[TordelBack]

It's inclusion of Ventress alone, possibly my favourite clone wars character, elevates it over some ofthe New Star Wars films (mainly as I was still feeling joy for all things star wars  then).

Hmm, you're right, Ventress is pretty great in it - I love her repartee with Kenobi.  In the lead-in to the Nightsister stuff, the part where Dooku outright abandons her after her ships crashes in the hangar with the two lads is truly fantastic.

I would however argue that Rotta cancels out Ventress in the context of the film itself (Uncle Ziro Desilijic Tiure (aka Truman Capote the Hutt), on the other hand, I love, and think he should have had a longer run - to this day I regret the absence of a Ziro in any form in my collection of plastic tat. But then my last 3 3/4" scale Hutt of any kind was Jabba Glob back in '99. I do have two WotC 28mm Jabbas, each with their own shortcomings, and I often think about repainting one as Ziro).

I used to rank the TCW movie as its own thing(Episode 2.5) for exactly the same reasons, cinema release, but after long years of rewatching it with my Clone Wars-obsessed son, I decided it was better to think of it as a feature-length pilot.

Along with RotS it's the only theatrical SW movie I only saw once in the cinema.

[The Legendary Shark]

This thread left me behind ages ago. I still haven't seen the Holiday Special but I think I'd like to, just for research of course...

[TordelBack]

This thread left me behind ages ago. I still haven't seen the Holiday Special but I think I'd like to, just for research of course...

You think that.  You think it's so bad it has to be at least amusing, a curiosity, a shared experience of nerdkind.  We all thought that.  Then we watched it.  You have a finite life, it's up to you to use it as you see fit.  But on this, heed the warnings of your peers.

The ONLY bit worth watching, unless you have a serious Bea Arthur fetish, is this:

https://youtu.be/UC2Q6ANLXQ0

There, you're done.  Spend the time saved reading a good book, or whittling scrimshaw, anything else, basically.

[The Legendary Shark]

Hmmm, but, you know, you're talking to a man who enjoyed Episodes I, II and III more than IV, V and VI...

However, if your advice still stands after learning the depths of my depravity I will take heed and forget it ever existed. Probably.

[sheridan]

* The Walt Disney Corporation having special expertise in the removal of heads and overoptimistic expectations regarding the reanimation of the deceased

Reference to an urban myth regarding Walt?

[sheridan]

Full disclosure,  today it's:

TESB,  ANH,  RotJ,  TLJ,  (CW '03-05),  TPM,  (TCW '08-14)=TFA,  (Rebels), Solo, RotS=R1, AotC, (Droids),  CoC,  (Ewoks), BfE,  THS.

So Episode IX has it all to play for,  really.

I have no idea what half those acronyms mean

I got:
Empire Strikes Back
A New Hope
Return of the Jedi
The Last Jedi
Clone Wars TV series
The Phantom Menace
The other Clone Wars series
The Force Awakens
Rebels
Solo
Revenge of the Sith
Rogue One
Attack of the Clones
Droids cartoon
CoC?
Ewoks cartoon
BfE?
THS?

[JOE SOAP]

CoC = Caravan of Courage
BfE = Battle for Endor
THS = The Holiday Special

The first Star Wars 'spin-offs'.

[sheridan]

CoC = Caravan of Courage
BfE = Battle for Endor
THS = The Holiday Special

The first Star Wars spin-offs.

I worked out two of the other three further down the thread (couldn't look ahead, that would be cheating!)  I have actually seen all of those mentioned, though can never remember the name of Battle for Endor.

[SIP]

What the hell, I'll throw in my star wars votes, though I'll leave out the ewok films as I don't really count them.

1. Return of the Jedi
2. Empire strikes back
3. New hope
4. Revenge of the Sith
5. Clone wares cartoon (cgi)
5. Attack of the clones
6. Phantom Menace
7. Solo
8. The clone wars movie
9. Rogue One
10. Force awakens.....which would have been 1 higher, but last jedi robbed it of it of most of its good points.
11.  The last jedi.
12. The dreaded holiday special ....it's almost unbearable.