Greetings from 2000 AD at Comic Con 2011.
Stand by for some exciting SDCC news about the forthcoming Dredd movie ...
Excellent!
Can you hold off until I wake up?
I an ready :o
THIS JUST IN...
We have just had confirmation that the release date for Dredd has been announced: 21 September 2012!
Almost two years after filming began. Lots of post production time, that might be a good thing.
Unbelievable :'(
September 2012?
Shit, I'll have run out of helmet jokes long before then.
Anyone ask the obvious questions:
1. Why so fucking long? and
2. I want it now now NOW!!
I realise the second one isn't, technically, a question, but...
Aw man, I'm doing a half day today and now I'm going to go home and cry.
And masturbate, but that's about something else.
Believe it: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118040241?categoryid=4076&cs=1&cmpid=RSS%7CNews%7CLatestNews
It could also mean that nobody gives a shit about this movie but us.
Quote from: Cyclopz on 22 July, 2011, 02:18:40 AM
It could also mean that nobody gives a shit about this movie but us.
I'd rid yourself of such speculation, earthlet. Just not true.
Fair enough perhaps more news to come. I'll be lurking.
Quote from: Molch-R on 22 July, 2011, 12:56:36 AM
Stand by for some exciting SDCC news about the forthcoming Dredd movie ...
Hang on, you said "exciting" - is there more or was that what you were referring to?
How is this not exciting?
wow.
I'm off (again)
Quote from: Molch-R on 22 July, 2011, 02:40:43 AM
How is this not exciting?
In all candor, excitement is not the emotion I got from the post.
I'm not going to be a whiney bitch about it though (I've already done that), thanks for the update and nice to have a firm release date.
Well, there's lots of good news with this announcement:
The first half of any year leading up to Memorial Day (The traditional start of summer blockbuster season) in Hollywood is where the studios send their movies to die. That is, movies they have no idea how to market or movies they think are going to fucking tank. Think the likes of Green Hornet, Priest, The Rite, The Adjustment Bureau, Battle: Los Angeles. That this is being released on the tail-end of the summer season, and avoiding the summer's big-guns, means they must have some faith in what they've got.
Of course, the shit news is we have to wait over a year to see it now...
It's damn fine and exciting news. And no-one's awake for it. How I giggle Riddler style.
Now that I'm parked up I can say that the release date has made me happy. Mainly as I was worried that it may happen over the weekend of Hi-Ex and that would be BAD.
As said in the above post, it is now well away from the Marvel/DC films that are coming out and so won't get lost in all the hype that comes with them.
I do think the title of this thread should have been the release date as a few forum members may feel cheated, thinking teaser trailer, Anderson pics, etc...
Still, a few of us all nighters enjoyed the torture of waiting for Molch-R to say his second post!
I shall now have to sort out some leave over that period, just so I can enjoy the telly build up ;)
Pretty surprised the Dredd release date is so far into 2012, but this is a good thing, hopefully means the visual effects- and by that, read as MEGA-CITY ONE- and the 3-D are both going to be top-notch. The bad thing is we're unlikely to see a teaser trailer anytime this year, hope y'all have a lot of coffee on hand, we're in for the long haul on this one...
Yeah, thought we might maybe get one with Conan in August but couldn't see that now...
At least they are not rushing it so the SFX will be up to scratch.
Gonna be about 10 months before we get a trailer though i bet.
That certainly explains the drip-feed of publicity so far. Good to get a date, but more than a year, oh my heartses, won't somebody think of the obsessives? Hopefully this is a positive thing, based on extended post-production and clever scheduling.
Too much to hope for a Christmas teaser trailer, maybe? In the meantime, I think I'll be avoiding this thread for a while...
That gives them a a few months or so to shoot a sequel before the end of time.
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 22 July, 2011, 06:36:42 AMAt least they are not rushing it so the SFX will be up to scratch.
That may not be the reason at all though, they'll only spend the time on FX that their budget was allocated for unless they got more money. It may be just a scheduling decision to avoid all the big films released during the first two quarters and just before 3D
box-office singularity 'THE HOBBIT'. Warners just put back the Man of Steel to Summer 2013 to avoid all the other 2012 men-in-tights flicks.
Yeah they gotta to re-shots to shaved off his chin to pleased some compliants! And with new re-size helmet!
Well, that of course sounds far off, but sensibly avoids spider-mania, batmadness and hobbit-irritation. So we can expect a teaser trailer 14/9/12 then i take it?
But no, at least now we have a firm release date*
SBT
*subject to change, of course.
While the wait will be excruciating, if the delay allows the film makers to craft the best Dredd film possible then I'm more than happy to wait.
Quote from: dweezil2 on 22 July, 2011, 09:56:43 AM
While the wait will be excruciating, if the delay allows the film makers to craft the best Dredd film possible then I'm more than happy to wait.
And it's up against the next Resident Evil film in that time-slot so no contest! :D
Exciting news?? its like telling the kids xmas has been put back untill may! 2013 untill we can get the blu-ray- dvd! shit news :(
Over a year to wait but that will give them plenty of time to prepare a marketing campaign plus polish up the special effects. :)
Trouble is according to the Mayan calender the World ends on 21st of December 2012 so we'll only have a few months of Dredding before the Apocalypse boys ride into town. :-\
No blu-ray then ;)
Certainly gives them enough time to press "undo" on the 3D effects gizmo.
If 2012 is the end I'm going to spend my final moments,... well screaming frankly.
Quote from: Psidude on 22 July, 2011, 10:14:32 AM
No blu-ray then ;)
No Blu-Ray but here's to hoping that what the Mayans predicted is the arrival of Death, Fire, Mortis, Fear + Phobia and Nausea... Hell of a 3-D Dredd experience.
Honestly- moaners when there's no news- and moaners when there is.
Mulcher- you'll always be an overly tall twat*, but I salute your King Canute-like dedication to the job in the face of endless whining.
*Yes, I can call him that because we've known each other for a long time- and we're very nearly friends.
The other down side of the long wait is we're going to have to endure another year of "stubble on the chin", "the shoulder pads are too small" comments! :o
Maybe somebody's hoping by then everyone would've forgotten about the thing all together and everyone would've gone and watched Judge Minty instead..
At least Judge Minty will be out before it (hopefully)!
And there's more time to save up for a sudden flood of merchandise.
And... ummmm ... more 3D screens around (maybe!) to show it on, leading to more profit?
Its opening weekend competition is Sony's Hotel Transylvania, a CGI Adam Sandler flick in 3D, which may be competing for 3D screens.
Cool. I know what I'm doing for my birthday next year! Judge Dredd followed by a Jack Daniels grill in TGI fridays! Nothing like a bit of forward planning! :)
I dunno, it's temping fate, what with the ageing readership - doubt half of us will be here next September - Commando Forces and Proudhuff already look halfway to the knacker's yard!
I'd rather they took their time and made it great rather than rush out some half baked turd. At least if it is rubbish it'll be fully baked. And it won't be, it'll be gem. You heard it here first.
Quote from: Buttonman on 22 July, 2011, 01:28:19 PMI dunno, it's temping fate, what with the ageing readership - doubt half of us will be here next September - Commando Forces and Proudhuff already look halfway to the knacker's yard!
...and even if the lads make it, will they even remember what
Dredd is? Rumour is CF's been found wandering round the cellar at all-hours in the morning in his night-shirt looking for apple drops.
I read on dailyblam.com that the sept 2012 date is for the US. Uk release, they state, is Dec 1st this year.
That does sound like utter bollocks.
Why release it in a small territory, allow it to get pirated (or even an official DVD release) and kill its US Box Office entirely?
Makes no sense. Even stinkers don't get US theatrical releases nine fucking months later. Dredd could have a stubbly baby by then!
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say Lionsgate probably wouldn't have left such a vital piece of information out of their official press release...
That seems an awfully long time to wait.
Almost two years from when it started filming.
This strikes me as a bit odd and does not bode well.
Excitement levels have now dropped quite a bit.
Straight to DVD perhaps?
Quote from: Buddy on 22 July, 2011, 04:03:22 PM
That seems an awfully long time to wait.
Almost two years from when it started filming.
This strikes me as a bit odd and does not bode well.
Excitement levels have now dropped quite a bit.
Straight to DVD perhaps?
Yeah probably- I'm sure they're just hoping we've all bought a 3D TV by then...
Quote from: Buddy on 22 July, 2011, 04:03:22 PM
Straight to DVD perhaps?
Can we please cease with this little piece of nonsense? The date announced is for worldwide cinema release - it has been sold into all territories for CINEMA RELEASE. Okay?
Quote from: Matt Timson on 22 July, 2011, 10:39:59 AM
Mulcher- you'll always be an overly tall twat*, but I salute your King Canute-like dedication to the job in the face of endless whining.
I love you too, Matthew ;)
Quote from: Buddy on 22 July, 2011, 04:03:22 PM
That seems an awfully long time to wait.
Almost two years from when it started filming.
This strikes me as a bit odd and does not bode well.
Excitement levels have now dropped quite a bit.
Straight to DVD perhaps?
It's already been explained why. Timing's everything with a niche release like this. Release it at the wrong time and it'll get lost in the crowd.
Quote from: Buddy on 22 July, 2011, 04:03:22 PM
That seems an awfully long time to wait.
Almost two years from when it started filming.
This strikes me as a bit odd and does not bode well.
Excitement levels have now dropped quite a bit.
Straight to DVD perhaps?
What the fuck are you on about?
Or maybe that should just be - what the fuck are you on?
Quote from: ED GRIMREAPER on 22 July, 2011, 02:57:41 PM
I read on dailyblam.com that the sept 2012 date is for the US. Uk release, they state, is Dec 1st this year.
That's cos
dailyspam are reading the Dredd IMDB page.
Quote from: Molch-R on 22 July, 2011, 04:09:05 PM
Quote from: Matt Timson on 22 July, 2011, 10:39:59 AM
Mulcher- you'll always be an overly tall twat*, but I salute your King Canute-like dedication to the job in the face of endless whining.
I love you too, Matthew ;)
I know.
:lol:
Quote from: exilewood on 22 July, 2011, 05:08:02 PM
What the fuck are you on about?
Or maybe that should just be - what the fuck are you on?
What I'm on about is that post production on a movie usually doesn't take 18 months to complete.
A film sitting on the shelf is a film losing money. I'd have expected it to be out on DVD by next September.
Films that are delayed in release are usually delayed because the studio doesn't have faith in the film.
Straight to DVD? Where do you people come from?!?
:lol:
Quote from: Buddy on 22 July, 2011, 04:03:22 PM
That seems an awfully long time to wait.
Almost two years from when it started filming.
This strikes me as a bit odd and does not bode well.
Actually that's the average amount of time for a genre SCI-FI film.
Quote from: Buddy on 22 July, 2011, 05:25:09 PM
What I'm on about is that post production on a movie usually doesn't take 18 months to complete.
A film sitting on the shelf is a film losing money. I'd have expected it to be out on DVD by next September.
Films that are delayed in release are usually delayed because the studio doesn't have faith in the film.
Talk about jumping to conclusions. The 18 months ain't about post-production, it's a non-argument.
Unfortunately/fortunately 2012 happens to be the biggest year for genre/comic adaptations in film history out-the-gate almost from Jan/Feb with Star Wars 3D, Ghost Rider, Wrath of the Titans & John Carter, right through the Summer with Avengers, Batman 3, Prometheus, Star-Trek 2, Spider-Man, Bourne Legacy, Total Recall, G.I. Joe 2.
The Hobbit, Django Unchained, Bond 23, Halloween 3D, Twilight, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3D all pencilled for the Nov/Dec.
September is the only real window for Dredd that doesn't have BIG competition unless you count Looper, Resident Evil or the Expendables 2.
Think Star Trek's back to Xmas 2012, Joe. No script yet.
The only possible reason for such a long wait is - that there actually is no film. It's all an elaorate hoax and you guys are falling for it.
Yes, when a "film" takes a long time to release like this it always means that said "film" doesn't actually exist. Dre3d will actually turn out to be some sort of new fragrance for men or something. This would explain all the pictures of cars and why Karl Urban has so much stubble in the official photo.
MARK MY WORDS - THERE IS NO FILM.
Quote from: blackmocco on 23 July, 2011, 12:35:45 AM
Think Star Trek's back to Xmas 2012, Joe. No script yet.
Still 2012 though, a
full year.
Report on Empire on Rise of the Apes: http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=31544
QuoteI think now, 12 months after shooting the film, I've breathed a huge sigh of relief.
WHA-? They filmed it 12 months ago! And it's only coming out now??? Straight to DVD, I assume..?
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 July, 2011, 12:50:09 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 23 July, 2011, 12:35:45 AM
Think Star Trek's back to Xmas 2012, Joe. No script yet.
Still 2012 though, a full year.
If 18 months post production is the average amount of time for a genre SCI-FI film don't expect Star Trek 2 until well into 2013.
I think if Johan Hex can get a cinema release i think dredd will be ok! this is just wishful thinking on my part,but i think with karl urbans last film priest being very dredd like with the mega city- cursed earth look,putting the film back could be for the best ,like super was put back a year when kick ass came out! just a thought :)
Well if it's bad it's bad and there's nowt we can do about it.
John Wagner, Judge Dredd's Co creator seemed pretty positive about what he'd seen on the Films set so surely that's something to consider. No idea what he's said recently since I will never have a twitter or Farcebook account. Any gossip about the Movie either good or bad tends to get reported here on the threads pretty quickly so the Intel hub will report any mis givings if or when they come out.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 July, 2011, 12:22:49 AM
Quote from: Buddy on 22 July, 2011, 05:25:09 PM
What I'm on about is that post production on a movie usually doesn't take 18 months to complete.
A film sitting on the shelf is a film losing money. I'd have expected it to be out on DVD by next September.
Films that are delayed in release are usually delayed because the studio doesn't have faith in the film.
Talk about jumping to conclusions. The 18 months ain't about post-production, it's a non-argument.
Unfortunately/fortunately 2012 happens to be the biggest year for genre/comic adaptations in film history out-the-gate almost from Jan/Feb with Star Wars 3D, Ghost Rider, Wrath of the Titans & John Carter, right through the Summer with Avengers, Batman 3, Prometheus, Star-Trek 2, Spider-Man, Bourne Legacy, Total Recall, G.I. Joe 2.
The Hobbit, Django Unchained, Bond 23, Halloween 3D, Twilight, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3D all pencilled for the Nov/Dec.
September is the only real window for Dredd that doesn't have BIG competition unless you count Looper, Resident Evil or the Expendables 2.
This sums it up very well, timing is everything. As for you Buddy think of it like releasing your beloved pet (project) into the wild, you wouldn't release into a dark wood full of wolves who would rip your beloved pet into little blooded shredded pieces now would you , no?No ,you would release it in open clear fields ,where it could run, run free , run Forest run ..erm sorry wrong film -but you get my point :D
Oh Good grief people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
John Carter Of Mars finished shooting before Dredd even started filming- its been in post for nearly over two years.
Batman was only a few months behind Dredd too, and its a month or so ahead of Dredd's release- but then its got much more $$ to push it through the mill faster .
The fact that its release date is set for September is in no way a sign of anything to do with its quality or predicted success- as has been clearly stated before- its the sign that the studio WANT it to do well and as such have moved it out of the 1 week wonder summer blockbusters and into a much more competitive time slot, thus giving it far more chances or being a financial success. The film is quite a small production compared to the likes of Batman etc, and to even think it has a chance of grabbing bill boards, TV slots and the like along with the promo spent behind Batman is pretty silly- it cant compete with that amount of promo and would just get lost.
People need to stop being so defeatest...... :o
Quote from: Buddy on 23 July, 2011, 09:05:45 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 July, 2011, 12:50:09 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 23 July, 2011, 12:35:45 AM
Think Star Trek's back to Xmas 2012, Joe. No script yet.
Still 2012 though, a full year.
If 18 months post production is the average amount of time for a genre SCI-FI film don't expect Star Trek 2 until well into 2013.
I never said 18 months post-production is the average amount of time for a SCI-Fi film. As I said Post-production ain't the issue. The Amazing Spider-man aint too far off the Dredd production/release time-frame either -won't be out till next July, it started filming last December- but that has a higher budget and larger resources plus would you rather them release Dredd to go up against Spider-man in July/August?
I don't see the point using whatever new info is released about this film as an excuse to beat it -especially something like a release date- or that every decision that is made is an indication that it's badly made and that it hasn't a chance especially since none of us know, there's no reason in that...or maybe you just want it to fail.
Chill, people. The film will be as good as the team can make it.
If it turns out to be awesome, I'll be a very happy squaxx.
If not, I've still got a bajillion back-issues and TPBs within easy reach and no shortage of new comics to keep me going.
I don't think anyone can say with absolute confidence the release date is because it's the best slot in 2012. No-one here knows how long Dredd's post production has taken.
The filming ended in February. Assuming post production started in March, how long would that take? Let's take an uneducated guess of six months maximum to add the soundtrack, the audio, the CGI effects, to do the editing, and any modification of the 3D effect. The film would be almost complete around August plus any extra time added to do trailers, posters and other promotional stuff - interviews for magazines, perhaps a promotional website. Let's say the film is totally complete by September or October. That means there's an eleven or twelve month gap before the film's release.
The problem with a September release is kid go back to school, teenagers go back to college, university. The mindset could be "summer's over, I'm less inclined to go to the cinema." This may explain why there's a big drop in September's box office.
A spring release could have been better? Maybe. It's not the same as the summer season when the big budget films are out but April is the last month before the first big releases in May. April may have been the best month for its release?
The long gap could be because Lionsgate have seen the rough cut and not been impressed. It's possible. That may not be the reason but nobody knows why the film has got such a long post production period. Perhaps the film is a stinker or perhaps it's going to wow people in the September slot? Who knows.
Just out of interest, does anyone have to hand info on the gap between wrap and release for a) the stallone dredd, and b) district 9?
SBT
Quote from: future123 on 23 July, 2011, 11:30:23 AMThe problem with a September release is kid go back to school, teenagers go back to college, university. The mindset could be "summer's over, I'm less inclined to go to the cinema." This may explain why there's a big drop in September's box office.
It's not a kids film though, it'll be R-rated in the States and 15/18 in Ireland & UK. It's a genre film for an older audience and September is a better time to release a film like that after a Summer of popcorn. I'm surprised Prometheus is scheduled for June though there will be both PG13 and R-rated cuts of the film to be viewed by Warners and that may change the release date.
QuoteA spring release could have been better? Maybe. It's not the same as the summer season when the big budget films are out but April is the last month before the first big releases in May. April may have been the best month for its release?
Spring is similar to Autumn but Dredd has more competition in Spring with John Carter, Star Wars 3D, Ghost Rider etc.
QuoteThe long gap could be because Lionsgate have seen the rough cut and not been impressed. It's possible.
That wouldn't really explain the September release though and I don't think they'd be be willing to throw a load more money to fix anything like that, they'd more likely just finish and release it. There'd still be time anyway to address reshoots if the release was next Spring. All indications from the crew are that the shoot, at least, went well.
Do I win for being the first to notice him?
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 23 July, 2011, 11:37:34 AM
Just out of interest, does anyone have to hand info on the gap between wrap and release for a) the stallone dredd, and b) district 9?
I know District 9 took two and a half years to
produce but the shoot started in Spring 2008 and it was released in August 2009. Not too far shy of Dredd and D9 was released in a less jam-packed year for genre films. The director had all ready tested the waters with the short 'Alive in Jo'burg'. Not sure if the Stallone Dredd is particularly comparable.
Quote from: DrRocka on 23 July, 2011, 11:54:31 AM
Do I win for being the first to notice him?
The pleasure's all yours.
Well its a knocking bet we will get a dredd trailer at comic com! shame it will comic com 2012 ;)
Here's a small glint of hope to ease the pain away of another year waiting for DREDD. A New Scientist feature states someone has built a working time machine.
;)
Say...it's not gonna make us age ten years, is it?
Most likely DrRocka!
It'll bring the release date forward...
We wish. Anybody got prof' Hawkins email, perhaps we can get him on it?
I'm with Dom on this It's actually set to release on my eldest sister's birthday which is exactly a week after mine. But whoa! What a comedown from a weeks celebrating my 40th!
io9 fucked it up as well:
http://io9.com/5824053/americans-will-get-the-new-judge-dredd-movie-10-months-after-the-brits
Lazy journalism, copy/paste/copy/paste/repeat.
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 23 July, 2011, 11:37:34 AM
Just out of interest, does anyone have to hand info on the gap between wrap and release for a) the stallone dredd, and b) district 9?
SBT
The Stallone Judge Dredd movie began filming in July 1994 and finally wrapped in late January 1995- I remember the time frame well as I was avidly following it's progress at the time- with the completed movie released in North America on June 30th, 1995. That means post-production looks like it only lasted for an insanely tight five months, but they could have been assembling footage and working on effects shots prior to production wrapping, I have no idea on that regard.
The new Dredd movie is being released in September 2012 so the visual effects and 3-D can be rendered to their fullest potential, and also so the distributors, Lionsgate in particular, can create an effective marketing campaign to make the wider audience aware and interested in the movie in the immediate months leading up to release- and I for one am glad they seem to be taking their time with this, do we really want a re-run of 1995...?