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Title: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2018, 08:45:58 PM
'Game Of Thrones' Duo Benioff & Weiss To Pilot New 'Star Wars' Trilogy (http://deadline.com/2018/02/star-wars-trilogy-david-benioff-d-b-weiss-game-of-thrones-duo-1202279600/)

David Benioff and D.B. Weiss are going from Winterfell to a galaxy far, far away.

It was announced today that Benioff and Weiss, creators of the smash-hit, Emmy Award-winning television series Game of Thrones, will write and produce a new series of Star Wars films.

These new films will be separate from both the episodic Skywalker saga and the recently-announced trilogy being developed by Rian Johnson, writer-director of Star Wars: The Last Jedi.


Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: TordelBack on 06 February, 2018, 09:07:03 PM
KotOR at last...?
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 February, 2018, 09:07:25 PM

I presume so; it seems to fit, and I doubt Johnson wants to do it.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Tiplodocus on 06 February, 2018, 09:11:54 PM
Can they keep it light? Literally the last thing I want to see is Game Of Thrones with lightsaber.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: TordelBack on 06 February, 2018, 09:30:23 PM
(https://cnet2.cbsistatic.com/img/7OqaiUH-u7WgLSOhnBgZSZFS4mE=/fit-in/570x0/2016/02/10/246f1368-1674-4a63-8878-bbf7089f23a1/lukeleia.jpg)

If I were Han I'd stay away from open windows...
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: SIP on 07 February, 2018, 09:22:11 AM
Wow......Disney isn't messing about is it?

Can there be too much Star Wars?

Yes, I think so.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Professor Bear on 07 February, 2018, 11:17:51 AM
It's actually getting embarrassing how badly in denial people are about the fact they once liked the Ewoks - each new Star Wars project has to be more darker than the last.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: James Stacey on 07 February, 2018, 01:15:02 PM
as long as its got more quadboobseals in it I'm in.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: GrudgeJohnDeed on 07 February, 2018, 01:17:43 PM
I still love the Ewoks  :-X
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Goaty on 07 February, 2018, 04:23:53 PM
Quote from: Professor Bear on 07 February, 2018, 11:17:51 AM
It's actually getting embarrassing how badly in denial people are about the fact they once liked the Ewoks - each new Star Wars project has to be more darker than the last.

Well there a clue in the title Star Wars.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: TordelBack on 07 February, 2018, 05:09:11 PM
I love the Ewoks. Vicious stone-age buggers with a taste for human flesh and a talent for arboreal warfare,  what's not to like.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: dweezil2 on 07 February, 2018, 05:10:00 PM
Hoping for a Porg erotic thriller!    :D
50 Shades Of Porg.

Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Professor Bear on 07 February, 2018, 05:12:44 PM
We don't know for sure the Ewoks were going to eat those people, just that they were going to burn them to death in the vicinity of a cooking pot.

Quote from: Goaty on 07 February, 2018, 04:23:53 PM
Quote from: Professor Bear on 07 February, 2018, 11:17:51 AM
It's actually getting embarrassing how badly in denial people are about the fact they once liked the Ewoks - each new Star Wars project has to be more darker than the last.

Well there a clue in the title Star Wars.

I'm not sure what the logic is there, but it doesn't track that wars have to be worse as time goes on - the Gulf War was much more fun than Vietnam or the Falklands.  I also imagine all those high school dropouts recruited for their gaming skills are probably having a whale of a time using drones to blow up weddings.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: TordelBack on 07 February, 2018, 05:24:06 PM
You would hope that TLJ has finally silenced the calls for each instalment of a kids' fantasy franchise to be daaaaarker.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Colin YNWA on 07 February, 2018, 06:44:14 PM
I've really warmed to the murder bears over the last few months. Not sure why but maybe its the realisation that fair from being teddy bears they are in fact

Quote from: TordelBack on 07 February, 2018, 05:09:11 PM
I love the Ewoks. Vicious stone-age buggers with a taste for human flesh and a talent for arboreal warfare,  what's not to like.

Which you know is like very cool.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 February, 2018, 10:36:28 PM
One of the best parts of ROTJ is C-3PO's relationship with the Ewoks: ascension to god-hood then Teddy Ruxpin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrE095XLEm0).


And of course, Yub Nub (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np6vAuS0KNs) – the real ending to ROTJ.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 08 February, 2018, 02:33:01 AM
They'll have to come up with something original for this otherwise it'll be called a rip off.  Hard to see where they can really take Star Wars now. 
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: TordelBack on 08 February, 2018, 05:11:43 PM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 08 February, 2018, 02:33:01 AMHard to see where they can really take Star Wars now.

But they haven't really taken it anywhere yet,  have they? Rogue One was supposed to be a different direction,  but ended up being about Y-Wings, Star Destroyers,  Tarkin and Darth Vader. I'm hoping Solo will be an underworld heist/caper thing, but there are TIE Fighters and Star Destroyers in the trailer,  so possibly not... By my reckoning that leaves almost every imaginable genre and non-Hero-Mentor-Dark-Lord plot still to explore in a GFFA setting.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: JamesC on 08 February, 2018, 06:48:06 PM
I'd like to see a Star Wars POW film.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: dyl on 08 February, 2018, 07:26:39 PM
Seeing the trailer made me think that there could be some fun films with Han and Lando, more pulpy Sci fi less about jedi/Sith and destiny etc which is getting a bit dull. I think you do need the Empire in there to keep it Star Wars plus they make a great bad guy. Think one of the problems with the prequels and the new trilogy is that the bad guys are a bit fuzzy. Just hope it doesn't get too bogged down with origin stuff and that that bloke is ok as Han.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 08 February, 2018, 07:34:48 PM
Quote from: dyl on 08 February, 2018, 07:26:39 PM
Seeing the trailer made me think that there could be some fun films with Han and Lando, more pulpy Sci fi less about jedi/Sith

I've been saying for years that I'd watch a series of movies entirely based around Han and Chewie smuggling shit and getting into/out of scrapes with the authorities.

And then someone pointed out that was basically Firefly.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: dyl on 08 February, 2018, 07:44:38 PM
Haha, good point. This will have Star destroyers and storm troopers though :)
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: blackmocco on 09 February, 2018, 04:49:13 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 08 February, 2018, 07:34:48 PM
Quote from: dyl on 08 February, 2018, 07:26:39 PM
Seeing the trailer made me think that there could be some fun films with Han and Lando, more pulpy Sci fi less about jedi/Sith

I've been saying for years that I'd watch a series of movies entirely based around Han and Chewie smuggling shit and getting into/out of scrapes with the authorities.

And then someone pointed out that was basically Firefly.

It's true. But then we didn't get nearly enough Firefly to scratch that itch properly...
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 09 February, 2018, 10:17:36 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 08 February, 2018, 05:11:43 PM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 08 February, 2018, 02:33:01 AMHard to see where they can really take Star Wars now.

But they haven't really taken it anywhere yet,  have they? Rogue One was supposed to be a different direction,  but ended up being about Y-Wings, Star Destroyers,  Tarkin and Darth Vader. I'm hoping Solo will be an underworld heist/caper thing, but there are TIE Fighters and Star Destroyers in the trailer,  so possibly not... By my reckoning that leaves almost every imaginable genre and non-Hero-Mentor-Dark-Lord plot still to explore in a GFFA setting.


But what direction can they head in?   If they change it too much it won't be Star Wars and there's pnly so many ideas out there.   They're still going to be films that usually end up in a giant battle.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: TordelBack on 09 February, 2018, 10:58:42 PM
I know what you mean,  but with at least 8 films on the card after Solo*, I think that they can still make 'traditionally themed' SW movies, and have room to do all sorts of tangential things that expand the scope of the setting.

Looking no further than Clone Wars' movie-homage episodes gives a good idea of what can be done successfully with a GFFA twist: Seven Samurai,  Godzilla,  Vietnam,  undercover prison break,  Longest Day... And that's without shifting into comedy,  romance,  horror,  crime,  historical etc etc.


*Meaning we've only seen half of the SW franchise as currently envisaged!  :o
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 10 February, 2018, 10:38:05 AM
I always enjoyed the video Game Jedi 2 with Kyle Katarn as the former Imperial and force user who turned to the Alliance after falling in lurv' with Rebel Jan. That might be a good idea for a film I felt since from Empire Officer to Alliance Commando is quite a journey and you could space it out nicely over several movies. I'd enjoy a Kotor based Film too or even a Tinker Tailer type film about infiltration into the Alliance by Imperial spies. Or vice-versa even.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Proudhuff on 10 February, 2018, 10:50:10 AM
I'm totally lost and CBA with the whole SW universe now...
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Big_Dave on 10 February, 2018, 10:52:35 AM
CBA

???
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Proudhuff on 10 February, 2018, 10:56:16 AM
can't be arsed... :D
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Professor Bear on 10 February, 2018, 11:41:39 AM
Hollywood has very few stories up its sleeve and you could probably throw a few half-assed cliches together - superweapon, star-crossed lovers, galactic fugitives, disgraced officer's last chance for redemption, missing family member, The Chosen One, etc - and start a betting pool for which one Disney will make first.  I imagine there is almost zero chance the Jedi and/or Chosen One narratives won't be making a comeback.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Proudhuff on 10 February, 2018, 11:57:30 AM
Satr Wars bingo! a bit like the 2k Futureshock one  :D
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: Big_Dave on 10 February, 2018, 02:39:59 PM
"Hollywood has very few stories up its sleeve and you could probably throw a few half-assed cliches together - superweapon, star-crossed lovers, galactic fugitives, disgraced officer's last chance for redemption, missing family member, The Chosen One, etc - and start a betting pool for which one Disney will make first"


The Seven Basic Plots are the basics of plot-writing.

Overcoming the Monster[edit]
The protagonist sets out to defeat an antagonistic force (often evil) [1] which threatens the protagonist and/or protagonist's homeland (with tie fighters)

Rags to Riches[edit]
The poor protagonist acquires things such as power, wealth, and a mate, before losing it all and gaining it back upon growing as a person (with wookies)

The Quest[edit]
The protagonist and some companions set out to acquire an important object or to get to a location, facing many obstacles and temptations along the way (with light sabers)

Voyage and Return[edit]
The protagonist goes to a strange land and, after overcoming the threats it poses to him or her [2], returns with experience (with darth vader)

Comedy[edit]
Light and humorous character with a happy or cheerful ending; a dramatic work in which the central motif is the triumph over adverse circumstance, resulting in a successful or happy conclusion (with star destroyers)

Tragedy[edit]
The protagonist is a hero with one major character flaw or great mistake [3] which is ultimately their undoing. Their unfortunate end evokes pity at their folly and the fall of a fundamentally 'good' character (with jar jar binks)

Rebirth[edit]
During the course of the story, an important event forces the main character to change their ways, often making them a better person (with x-wings)
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 February, 2018, 12:32:41 AM
Did Benioff & Weiss tell George there'll soon be an empty studio in Belfast with an experienced crew?

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/news/belfast-to-join-star-wars-universe-as-spinoff-movie-comes-to-town-36591457.html

Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 14 February, 2018, 02:49:04 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 09 February, 2018, 10:58:42 PM
I know what you mean,  but with at least 8 films on the card after Solo*, I think that they can still make 'traditionally themed' SW movies, and have room to do all sorts of tangential things that expand the scope of the setting.

Looking no further than Clone Wars' movie-homage episodes gives a good idea of what can be done successfully with a GFFA twist: Seven Samurai,  Godzilla,  Vietnam,  undercover prison break,  Longest Day... And that's without shifting into comedy,  romance,  horror,  crime,  historical etc etc.


*Meaning we've only seen half of the SW franchise as currently envisaged!  :o



Possibly.   I bet they'll go on forever though.
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 14 February, 2018, 02:49:45 AM
Quote from: Big_Dave on 10 February, 2018, 02:39:59 PM
"Hollywood has very few stories up its sleeve and you could probably throw a few half-assed cliches together - superweapon, star-crossed lovers, galactic fugitives, disgraced officer's last chance for redemption, missing family member, The Chosen One, etc - and start a betting pool for which one Disney will make first"


The Seven Basic Plots are the basics of plot-writing.

Overcoming the Monster[edit]
The protagonist sets out to defeat an antagonistic force (often evil) [1] which threatens the protagonist and/or protagonist's homeland (with tie fighters)

Rags to Riches[edit]
The poor protagonist acquires things such as power, wealth, and a mate, before losing it all and gaining it back upon growing as a person (with wookies)

The Quest[edit]
The protagonist and some companions set out to acquire an important object or to get to a location, facing many obstacles and temptations along the way (with light sabers)

Voyage and Return[edit]
The protagonist goes to a strange land and, after overcoming the threats it poses to him or her [2], returns with experience (with darth vader)

Comedy[edit]
Light and humorous character with a happy or cheerful ending; a dramatic work in which the central motif is the triumph over adverse circumstance, resulting in a successful or happy conclusion (with star destroyers)

Tragedy[edit]
The protagonist is a hero with one major character flaw or great mistake [3] which is ultimately their undoing. Their unfortunate end evokes pity at their folly and the fall of a fundamentally 'good' character (with jar jar binks)

Rebirth[edit]
During the course of the story, an important event forces the main character to change their ways, often making them a better person (with x-wings)


Interesting summary that.   
Title: Re: Another New Star Wars Trilogy
Post by: sheridan on 14 February, 2018, 08:46:41 PM
Quote from: Big_Dave on 10 February, 2018, 02:39:59 PM
"Hollywood has very few stories up its sleeve and you could probably throw a few half-assed cliches together - superweapon, star-crossed lovers, galactic fugitives, disgraced officer's last chance for redemption, missing family member, The Chosen One, etc - and start a betting pool for which one Disney will make first"


The Seven Basic Plots are the basics of plot-writing.

(snip Booker's seven plots)

Nah - there's 46, according to Polti! (//http://)