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: Fleetos 12 October, 2011, 04:42:35 AM
I've started getting some of the complete collections books.

A question to the droids who art directed them. Why did you not put the numbers in the same place on all the books???

On my shelf it would have look so much better to have had a consistant look. Instead of them bouncing up and down.

Am I alone here or do people agree or like it not the same on each book?
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: O Lucky Stevie! 12 October, 2011, 05:30:15 AM
That Rennie droid will be along any time now to answer this.
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: The Adventurer 12 October, 2011, 06:18:49 AM
Spine Chat is the best chat. PEACE.
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: COMMANDO FORCES 12 October, 2011, 06:34:47 AM
It's beyond the comprehension of mere mortals to understand the difficulty in making the spines match up  :crazy:
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: Fleetos 12 October, 2011, 10:47:32 AM
Spine Chat is the best chat. PEACE.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

has this topic popped up before
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: Colin Zeal 12 October, 2011, 10:50:50 AM
Does anyone really care about this? I don't give a damn what the spines look like and find it hard to believe that people do. Yet this topic is often mentioned with people grumbling about it.
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: SmallBlueThing 12 October, 2011, 10:58:31 AM
It's beyond the comprehension of mere mortals to understand the difficulty in making the spines match up  :crazy:

It is indeed, nuts.

Having said that, I recently completed my run of Case Files, and on sticking them on my shelf I thought it might bug me that they are all so misaligned. But, do you know, it doesn't. In fact it annoys me more that the last two I had to get (12 and 13) are more-or-less matching. Somehow it doesn't look right to have that oasis of calm in the middle of a turbulent sea of crazy up and downiness.

What bugs me more is that they changed the spine design (badge in the 'u' of Dredd, reverse colours) with volume eleven- knowing, surely, that volume eleven would be the last of the fat ones before it all went thinny with twelve. Now, I know that doing the colours and design in batches of ten, and sticking with it over volumes 11-20, is a great idea... but ARGH! that sticky-outy volume eleven annoys. Could they not have done it in batches of eleven, making volume eleven purple or something, with the "old" spine design, then giving us 12-21 (the thin ones) as the "new" design?  The bouncy writing is NOTHING compared to that. NOTHING I tell you.

SBT
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: James Stacey 12 October, 2011, 11:38:31 AM
I love you guys. Don't listen to that Colin Zeal guy, he just doesn't understand :)
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: Colin Zeal 12 October, 2011, 12:39:49 PM
You're all very strange people.
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: SuperSurfer 12 October, 2011, 12:57:31 PM
Only got one case file so my shelf looks fine.

But I  can't resist looking at the spines when I am in FP as I am aware this has been mentioned before.

Seems to me that the designer has gone for a very nifty design (IMO) where the 'JUDGE DREDD' title spans the width of the spine and all the small text and number are jammed up under the helmet graphic. I do reckon that looks better than if all that info was spaced out and lower down the spine away from the title. Looks tighter and neater.

I reckon it's more important that each book looks good and how they look as a set is secondary – though others will argue that both could be achieved.

In fact I still think they look great as individual items and on shelves.
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: SuperSurfer 12 October, 2011, 01:01:54 PM
Don't see an edit button so two posts in a row. Now I think of it, the spines could never be exactly the same. The size of 'JUDGE DREDD' will always be taller or shorter on the shelf depending on the thickness of the volume. Only way to achieve complete consistency would be if they were all same thickness. Or if the title was miniscule based on the thinnest. Which would be yuk.
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: radiator 12 October, 2011, 01:34:23 PM
If the 2000ad graphics guys see this thread they're going to completely change the design of the Case Files books from 19 onwards just to mess with you.
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: SmallBlueThing 12 October, 2011, 01:39:31 PM
Bring it on! Personally, it matters not much- but the wrath of commando forces? That man has been known to abseil into the nerve centre, crash through the window, land on cyber-matt's desk and shoutily demand mugs and keyrings. Mess with his shelves you do not.

SBT
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: IndigoPrime 12 October, 2011, 01:52:56 PM
Don't see an edit button so two posts in a row. Now I think of it, the spines could never be exactly the same. The size of 'JUDGE DREDD' will always be taller or shorter on the shelf depending on the thickness of the volume. Only way to achieve complete consistency would be if they were all same thickness. Or if the title was miniscule based on the thinnest. Which would be yuk.
Quite. Still, it could be worse: Canongate's Complete Peanuts books had their logos in the key colour of the volume, but for the last four just went with bright red. BOO! Etc.
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: COMMANDO FORCES 12 October, 2011, 03:19:35 PM
The insane bollocks that are the spines is so easy to rectify that it makes my blood boil and I have to physically stop myself doing a full scale assault (by myself) on the bleeding got a nerve centre!

I would have done this. Dredd Case Files 1:- bring the helmet on the spine down to near the 2000 AD logo with the correct size gap left for the number to be placed in. This means that the front cover can still be the colour of the helmet and the bottom can still be black, this enables the number to still be the colour of the front and not change to WHITE on every one, as it does later. It doesn't matter how large the name is or how it looks, it's all down to the colouring on the shelf and uniformity.

I have just looked at my shelf and steam is escaping my head (I hope you know I've only just come out of theatre and this is not good for me). It's as though we have two different sets of case files for Dredd.

Firstly we have the black bottom spine ones, Jesus Christ make that three sets. JUST LOOK at number eleven, it's a bloody mixture of them both  :crazy:  Putting the badge in with the name is another thing that knocks it all out of kilter.

I remember when I was collecting the Babylon 5 videos and after series three they went from numbers to 4.1 I then wrote to the company telling them what I thought and stopped collecting them, bastards!

How difficult is it to make things look neat and tidy on the shelf. Look at the Horus Heresy novels they can manage it with different font sizes, it really is piss easy. I would ask Rebellion to sort it out but it's too late now, the damage is done and I will have to try and live with this for the rest of my life!

P.S I won't even mention the square bloody logo at the bottom of seventeen  :-X
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: Proudhuff 12 October, 2011, 03:52:17 PM
Radiator's pic shows all:

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/radiator_2006/IMG_1121.jpg)

more spinetingling fun on the apt thread: http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,33880.0.html (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,33880.0.html)
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: Colin Zeal 12 October, 2011, 04:09:47 PM
You're all being ridiculous. As long as the content is good what does the spine matter?
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: Proudhuff 12 October, 2011, 04:14:02 PM
(http://i460.photobucket.com/albums/qq322/bucketmusic/life_of_brian_allstar-5468.jpg)
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: COMMANDO FORCES 12 October, 2011, 04:18:57 PM
HOW VERY DARE YOU!
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: Trout 12 October, 2011, 04:23:27 PM
I reckon that editions make a difference.

The discrepancy in height between 6 and 7 is significantly more in Radiator's pic than it is on the Case Files I can see on my shelf.

Colin has a point. I'm not quite as bothered as some people but it is a little annoying. The spine is the part of the book you see most often. Neat spines are a pleasure to look at.

- Trout
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: James Stacey 12 October, 2011, 04:32:58 PM
For that matter.. look at the Dante spines. Look at them. Something they could have easily remedied with the american release, even going so far as to add some other goodies to sweeten the deal. But did they? DID THEY !
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: Grant Goggans 12 October, 2011, 04:47:30 PM
It's really simple.  I look at Titan's Dan Dare and Charley's War books, and Fantagraphics' Peanuts books, and I want something as nice-looking as that on my 2000 AD shelves.  Consistency is key.  I still can't believe these stinking American editions keep not following the pattern.  I'm not ordering the new The Black Hole until I see with my own eyes that I can replace the DC edition with one that I can slot with the others.

Try suggesting that Fanta should fire Seth and have somebody new design The Complete Peanuts 1987-88.  We're declawed, baby pussycats compared to how people would riot.  WITH GOOD REASON.
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: Colin Zeal 12 October, 2011, 05:28:28 PM
Am I going to be shunned at the next forum meet up/convention?
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: SmallBlueThing 12 October, 2011, 05:32:29 PM
Shunned like a biscuit.

SBT
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: The Adventurer 12 October, 2011, 06:32:42 PM
I solved my 'dilemma' by finally giving up keeping all my 2000 AD TPs separated from the rest of my graphic novels. Its marginally more appealing since all my GNs don't match.


Click for Full Size!
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2959/shelf1.th.jpg) (http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2959/shelf1.jpg)
Paperbacks 1

(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/3554/shelf2.th.jpg) (http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/3554/shelf2.jpg)
Paperbacks 2 (I've recently added Nikolia Dante Vol.9 and 10, which are not show)

(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/5206/shelf3g.th.jpg) (http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/5206/shelf3g.jpg)
Paperbacks 3

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/radiator_2006/IMG_1121.jpg)

Look at how nice those Akira spines look together.

Also, remember when Spine Chat got forever immortalized?

(http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6465/jdspines.jpg)
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: Dark Jimbo 12 October, 2011, 06:58:34 PM
I still can't believe these stinking American editions keep not following the pattern.  I'm not ordering the new The Black Hole until I see with my own eyes that I can replace the DC edition with one that I can slot with the others.

I've had the new Black Hole for a couple of months now, and can confirm it fits in nicely with all the other ABC books.
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: Grant Goggans 12 October, 2011, 07:41:46 PM
Now, that's good news!  Sure is a shame that Dante, Low Life, Harry 20 etc couldn't have also been given the right treatment though.
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: The Adventurer 12 October, 2011, 08:01:54 PM
Dante pisses me off the MOST.
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: COMMANDO FORCES 12 October, 2011, 08:03:12 PM
Am I going to be shunned at the next forum meet up/convention?

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/Forum%20Meetings/P3050022.jpg)

Nap, El Chivo, Uncle Fester & Supersurfer decide how long Colin has to stand outside the pub for not giving a toss about the spines of Rebellions tpb's
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: SmallBlueThing 12 October, 2011, 08:29:09 PM
Mardroid, surely?

:D

SBT
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: COMMANDO FORCES 12 October, 2011, 08:32:41 PM
I'm so confused, it's the spines that have done it plus the op  :-[

I think I got out of that one okay  ;)
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: SmallBlueThing 12 October, 2011, 08:38:35 PM
I reckon that editions make a difference.

The discrepancy in height between 6 and 7 is significantly more in Radiator's pic than it is on the Case Files I can see on my shelf.

- Trout

Oh my wordy, yes! I've just looked at my versions of six and seven- and they are pretty much aligned. At least compared to the editions in the picture above. That adds a whole new layer of mentalness to this question! Surely it must be possible to get a set wherein they DO (more or less) align, then? Does this mean that I now have to sell all the ones I have, and carry around a little book of measurements- or worse, some kind of actual size template, with which to measure all copies I find in shops? :-/

SBT
Not mad, honest, Colin.
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: COMMANDO FORCES 12 October, 2011, 08:42:25 PM
I hope you mean 7 and 8 SBT, otherwise I will explode if there is a 6 out there that lines up with 7  :'(
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: SmallBlueThing 12 October, 2011, 08:47:02 PM
No, take a look at the pic i posted in that other thread- youll see that 6 and 7 align (not perfectly, by any means), but much better than in the picture radiator's picture.

SBT
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: SmallBlueThing 12 October, 2011, 08:48:58 PM
6, 7 and 8 are a pretty good match on my shelf...

SBT
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: MR. ELIMINATOR 12 October, 2011, 08:49:29 PM
I haven't collected any case files yet, but if it is possible to have them match I might try for it. I like to have collections matching, like my sin city. They did good with the spines as when you put them all together it makes a sexy woman.

Does anyone have the US editions as I might collect them. The covers look much better for a start.
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: COMMANDO FORCES 12 October, 2011, 08:50:58 PM
But you know there is no search capability anymore, that would take me years  :'(
Have you got a linky  :D
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: COMMANDO FORCES 12 October, 2011, 09:02:02 PM
Seen. It looks thicker as well, how strange  :o :-*
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: SmallBlueThing 12 October, 2011, 09:34:38 PM
I sent you a text with a pic, cf, but i see you found the other one.

Rebellion have history with mucking about like this. Im a constant reader of their Tombs of the Dead series, and the ten books so far have three very different spine designs, plus another change of coverstock (shiny to matt). The series went from normal sized paperbacks to oversized after book four, and has recently been revamped as of book ten ('the viking dead') to a shinier and completely different style.

Normally, i'd say changing stuff is good- it keeps browsers on their toes and reinforces the 'newness', but all the same, it's ever-so slightly annoying. To get my own back, i shelve that particular series backwards (10-1, not pages-out) so they merge gently with other similar paperbacks on dedicated zombie fiction shelf number two in the lounge.

I may go and kill myself now, having read back over that.

SBT
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: COMMANDO FORCES 12 October, 2011, 09:37:30 PM
I now have something to torture the Rebellion Crew with at the next convention,

The BASTARDS >:D >:D >:D >:D
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: SuperSurfer 13 October, 2011, 01:32:25 AM
Right. Let me put it this way.

I LIKE THE SPINES AS THEY ARE!

 :)

When I have a spare moment I will do a visual to show just why.
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: Emperor 13 October, 2011, 04:03:55 AM
I find myself equally concerned about people ordering their books from left to right - madness.  :o
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: The Adventurer 13 October, 2011, 04:54:53 AM
I find myself equally concerned about people ordering their books from left to right - madness.  :o

I suppose there is an argument to be made for ordering books from right to left. The first page of book 2 comes after the last page of book 1 after all. So placing them Right to Left is like one continues giant book.

That being said, numerically... you count up. Hence Left to Right tendencies. Because we read Left to Right.

Its a conundrum.  If only we read our books from Left to Right, like in Japan, we wouldn't have this problem!
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: Fleetos 13 October, 2011, 05:31:21 AM
I think it is just lazy art direction myself.

A good designer would make it work so no matter how big, small. The spines would work together.

You have to think of the bigger picture. Collectors get these. Collectors want to display them.

I also don't like it when a strip has a different artist dropped into a series run. But that is a different kettle of fish my friends.
 :P
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: Proudhuff 13 October, 2011, 11:19:04 AM
But you know there is no search capability anymore, that would take me years  :'(
Have you got a linky  :D

I shouldn't encourage you lot but:

http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,33880.0.html
 (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,33880.0.html)
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: Emperor 13 October, 2011, 01:31:09 PM
I find myself equally concerned about people ordering their books from left to right - madness.  :o

I suppose there is an argument to be made for ordering books from right to left. The first page of book 2 comes after the last page of book 1 after all. So placing them Right to Left is like one continues giant book.

That being said, numerically... you count up. Hence Left to Right tendencies. Because we read Left to Right.

Its a conundrum.  If only we read our books from Left to Right, like in Japan, we wouldn't have this problem!

My argument is that on book (and DVD) spines the text is rotated 90 degrees clockwise, so to read them properly you put your head over to the right hand side. This makes the book on the right essentially become the top of a stack of books, a stack you would read from the top to the bottom. Therefore the numbering should go from right to left.
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: James Stacey 13 October, 2011, 01:46:23 PM
what madness is this? That's right up there with Colin saying it's not important, only the content is.
But then I've just brought 2 copies of the new Pratchett book as there are 2 covers for the first edition. (and I used to laugh at people doing that with comics)
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: Colin Zeal 13 October, 2011, 02:00:48 PM
Seeing as CF clearly gave me a pre-emptive shunning it's probably best I stay out of this now. I still think I'm right though.
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: James Stacey 13 October, 2011, 02:03:17 PM
CF clearly gave me a pre-emptive shunning

Is that legal ? was there a sock involved  :lol:
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: COMMANDO FORCES 13 October, 2011, 02:12:02 PM
Don't listen to Colin, he bought, with his own money, 2000AD's from the dark era at the last Southern Contingent gathering  ;)
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: radiator 13 October, 2011, 02:13:54 PM
My argument is that on book (and DVD) spines the text is rotated 90 degrees clockwise, so to read them properly you put your head over to the right hand side. This makes the book on the right essentially become the top of a stack of books, a stack you would read from the top to the bottom. Therefore the numbering should go from right to left.

You're a lunatic. Numbers go from left to right.

Out of interest, what does everyone think about those titles - usually French books or films - where the spine text reads the wrong way - bottom to top, making a mess of even the neatest shelf?
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: SmallBlueThing 13 October, 2011, 02:17:04 PM
Talking of which, at the next southern contingent gathering, it'd be appreciated if you'd all wear basically the same colours please, and have jackets that are mostly the same length. It really winds me up to see you all mismatched standing there, and ruins memories and photographs.

SBT
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: COMMANDO FORCES 13 October, 2011, 02:25:56 PM
It's a bloody disgrace, what we need is

UnIfoRmItY
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: Colin Zeal 13 October, 2011, 03:08:54 PM
Don't listen to Colin, he bought, with his own money, 2000AD's from the dark era at the last Southern Contingent gathering  ;)

You can never have enough Michael Fleischer stories.
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: Proudhuff 13 October, 2011, 03:23:47 PM
Don't listen to Colin, he bought, with his own money, 2000AD's from the dark era at the last Southern Contingent gathering  ;)

You can never have enough Michael Fleischer stories.

NURSE! NURSE!
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: Emperor 13 October, 2011, 04:13:16 PM
My argument is that on book (and DVD) spines the text is rotated 90 degrees clockwise, so to read them properly you put your head over to the right hand side. This makes the book on the right essentially become the top of a stack of books, a stack you would read from the top to the bottom. Therefore the numbering should go from right to left.

You're a lunatic. Numbers go from left to right.

Or top to bottom - even if technically on their sides.

Out of interest, what does everyone think about those titles - usually French books or films - where the spine text reads the wrong way - bottom to top, making a mess of even the neatest shelf?

I turn the books/DVDs upside down to make them fit.
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: radiator 13 October, 2011, 04:34:23 PM
Or top to bottom - even if technically on their sides.

That's mental. They are on their sides. If you're stacking them in columns layed flat, then yes, biggest number goes at the bottom of the stack, but in what universe does that override the fact that numbers read left to right?

By that logic, you would also alphabetise your music collection Z-A.
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: I, Cosh 13 October, 2011, 10:53:13 PM
Pfft. Here's my Case Filing system. I thought this in itself would be enough to upset some of you, but then I noticed some things that will really shock you. SBT was crowing about his volume 6 lining up with 7 and 8, but just take a look at his 5. The helmet is down around its knees, whilst mine aligns pretty well with 7. Likewise, my volumes 1 and 2 make a pretty nice pair, whilst his are all over the place.

(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/103/filing003.jpg)

After I read Emperor's post, I had to go for a walk round the block to calm down. I most certainly do not tilt my head to read the spines. I simply look at the symbols running down the spine and allow my brain to transpose them and form words.
When I was running out of shelf space, I had a brief flirtation with stacking my comics vertically and it seems obvious to me that you would do this with number 1 at the bottom, as that's the first one you buy.
I went to gather some evidence of this and was surprised to find that there is no hard and fast rule imposed here, as the Hyperions in descending order and thus opposition to everything else.
(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/919/filing005.jpg)

As for DVDs, that doesn't bother me in the slightest, as you can see here:
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7643/filing006.jpg)

With CDs, on the other hand, it physically pains me. However, I made a decision many years ago that it is more important for the boxes to open in the same direction than for the spines to be aligned, as illustrated by this antiquated Low effort.
(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/7356/filing008.jpg)
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: O Lucky Stevie! 14 October, 2011, 12:39:48 AM
Any decent graphics program or even word processor will allow you to set up a design template of your choice.

Then it's just a simple case of typeytype, printy print & sticketty-stick & voila! Matching spines.
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: Grant Goggans 14 October, 2011, 01:00:27 AM
I like how you kept the cardboard wraparound of Rhino's reissue of Forever Changes.  You're a good man.
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: Trout 14 October, 2011, 12:02:11 PM
Cosh, I'm on my way to your house. The shelf needs to be put into proper order.

- Trout
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: COMMANDO FORCES 14 October, 2011, 12:08:26 PM
You tell him Trout those Case Files, I just can't look as it's beyond comprehension what he's done  :crazy:
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: Colin Zeal 14 October, 2011, 12:14:13 PM
I'll have to take a picture of my book shelf over the weekend so you can all find faults with it.
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: COMMANDO FORCES 14 October, 2011, 12:19:23 PM
I feel :sick: just thinking about it.
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: SuperSurfer 14 October, 2011, 01:05:37 PM
Not sure about that case files number 60 in The Cosh's photo. All the graphics are upside down.
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: Emperor 14 October, 2011, 03:09:13 PM
I do hope Cosh deliberately monkeyed around with his book shelves for comic effect, otherwise that could be used as evidence against him in court if he ever got arrested for a bit of murder or a touch of sex crimes.

When I was running out of shelf space, I had a brief flirtation with stacking my comics vertically and it seems obvious to me that you would do this with number 1 at the bottom, as that's the first one you buy.

That is how I stack them in the pile to be processed, then they get files with the #1 at the front, which is, when seen from the side, another good example of how things maturally fall into a right to left ordering.

I have recently implemented a new space efficient stacking system (photos will be made available when I'm happy with the classification system and when I can be arsed) so life was made a lot easier because they were already arranged in right to left order.

I just checked my book shelves and they are also right to left.

I'm not sure I did all this conciously but I feel better knowing everything is the same across all my media (as it means I won't spend the evening fretting ad have to get stuck in re-ordering something).
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: Proudhuff 14 October, 2011, 03:34:09 PM
Not sure about that case files number 60 in The Cosh's photo. All the graphics are upside down.

That's a collector's item shirley? Buy two!!
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: Mardroid 16 October, 2011, 02:02:13 AM
I'm so confused, it's the spines that have done it plus the op  :-[

I think I got out of that one okay  ;)

RED ALERT!  HUNTER-KILLER MODE ACTIVATED! LIQUIDATE! LIQUIDA-

Oh. Wait. That was hours ago. He's gone.

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: Mardroid 16 October, 2011, 02:18:21 AM
Oh. Wait. That was hours ago. He's gone.

Actually make that days ago. I really am slow these days. Need servicing methinks. Not in that way. Get back in the cupboard Vacuum Droid. Dirty 'bot! (Droid life can have that one. My rates are cheap.)

Concerning spines, I'll admit I'm in the 'don't really care' category. I love the way my Red Dwarf DVDs match up to create the programme logo though.
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: James Stacey 16 October, 2011, 08:11:52 PM
Pfft. Here's my Case Filing system. I thought this in itself would be enough to upset some of you, but then I noticed some things that will really shock you. SBT was crowing about his volume 6 lining up with 7 and 8, but just take a look at his 5. The helmet is down around its knees, whilst mine aligns pretty well with 7. Likewise, my volumes 1 and 2 make a pretty nice pair, whilst his are all over the place.

(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/103/filing003.jpg)

Definately spine differences there. My 4 and 5 are the same height and my 6,7 and 8 pretty much match too. Oh and my 16 sits facing the opposite way
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: The Adventurer 16 October, 2011, 08:16:15 PM
Hey Spine chatters, its time to spine chat.

What might the spine of Low Life: Paranoia look like? Close to the the typical Rebellion spine, like Zombo was? Or you know, not? Granted Mega-City Undercover was a blight as it was, so it probably doesn't matter. Oh, yeah, and the Lenny Zero spine, what might that look like? Since I'm rebuying Low Life, might as well rebuy Lenny Zero while I'm at it.
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: mogzilla 16 October, 2011, 09:31:42 PM
just read hellboy, all nice aligning spines there there ,shush (gently strokes several foreheads)
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: Grant Goggans 16 October, 2011, 09:42:37 PM
Ironically and idiotically, I forgot to tell my retailer not to order Lenny Zero or Low Life, so I ended up having to purchase both.  Neither match the line as we would like.  They're white spines with black/red text that matches the fonts on their respective covers.  I'll give them both pretty nice reviews on my Bookshelf blog - they certainly do collect some very good stories, other than the risible "Street Fighting Man" - but if you have Mega-City Undercover, I certainly wouldn't bother dipping again.
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: Grant Goggans 16 October, 2011, 11:15:04 PM
Actually, whoops, Lenny Zero's is a black spine, LENNY ZERO in white, AND THE PERPS OF MEGA-CITY ONE in red, all caps, font similar to other Rebellion books but not same, creator names in white, 2000 AD logo in red, un-numbered.
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: Fleetos 17 October, 2011, 12:06:30 AM
I also will need to upload pictures when i learn how.

I have the 10 books of nikolai dante. The first two are originals when they came out. But have DC/2000ad branding.

From 3-10 are all the purple spines.

Now, did the first 2 get released with the purple spines?

And why does it bug me to have them not match????? lol
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: I, Cosh 17 October, 2011, 12:49:42 AM
I do hope Cosh deliberately monkeyed around with his book shelves for comic effect, otherwise that could be used as evidence against him in court if he ever got arrested for a bit of murder or a touch of sex crimes.
Haw haw! I will admit to fooling around with the Case Files, but the novels were like that. In fact, it occurred to me afterwards that I should arrange those Dan Simmons ones thematically, with Rise of Endymion at the top and Fall of Hyperion at the bottom.

I had a brief flirtation with stacking my comics vertically and it seems obvious to me that you would do this with number 1 at the bottom, as that's the first one you buy.
That is how I stack them in the pile to be processed, then they get files with the #1 at the front, which is, when seen from the side, another good example of how things maturally fall into a right to left ordering.
Ah. Well. I'm afraid you're wrong all over again there. When I get round to it, something like 2000AD which I know will eventually fill a box by itself, gets filed from the back to the front, just like Case Files on a shelf. Also how it would work vertically as it's just like rotating them 90 degrees anticlockwise. Other comics (you'll love this) get filed from either end of the same box - to keep series separate - until they meet in the middle and a new box is needed. Or an ebay offload.

There is no system for games or DVDs but you may be interested in how I handle compilation albums! If it's a single artist compilation (New Order - Singles, say) then it gets filed by artist. Where there is a strong enough connection to a particular label then that becomes the index value. This is the case with Trojan and the majority of techno. Finally, anything left over is filed alphabetically by title. I can tell you, agonised long and hard over where to put the old 4AD compilation, Lonely is an Eyesore.

Now, did the first 2 [Dante books] get released with the purple spines?

And why does it bug me to have them not match????? lol
No they did not. I think this was the one that originally started The Adventurer's spine-mania. There is a faction on here that longs for the day Rebellion finally reprint these in their own colours. I'm not in it.
: Re: Spines
: The Adventurer 17 October, 2011, 03:16:42 AM
Ironically and idiotically, I forgot to tell my retailer not to order Lenny Zero or Low Life, so I ended up having to purchase both.  Neither match the line as we would like.  They're white spines with black/red text that matches the fonts on their respective covers.  I'll give them both pretty nice reviews on my Bookshelf blog - they certainly do collect some very good stories, other than the risible "Street Fighting Man" - but if you have Mega-City Undercover, I certainly wouldn't bother dipping again.

Ugg. I sort of have to get Low Life because it reprints stories not in Undercover. I guess I'll not double dip on Lenny Zero though.
: Re: Spines
: Grant Goggans 17 October, 2011, 08:24:50 AM
Ugg. I sort of have to get Low Life because it reprints stories not in Undercover. I guess I'll not double dip on Lenny Zero though.

The hell it does!  In fact, it contains one fewer story than Mega-City Undercover, as "He's Making a List" is not in it.
: Re: Spines
: The Adventurer 17 October, 2011, 09:33:25 AM
Ugg. I sort of have to get Low Life because it reprints stories not in Undercover. I guess I'll not double dip on Lenny Zero though.

The hell it does!  In fact, it contains one fewer story than Mega-City Undercover, as "He's Making a List" is not in it.
Wait. Rob Williams himself told me Low Life: Paranoia reprinted all the Low Life published up to that point. Now I'm just confused.
: Re: Spines
: Grant Goggans 17 October, 2011, 03:40:17 PM
Williams is mistaken.  The Paranoia book contains only the stories that are already in Mega-City Undercover, less He's Making a List.  So it has stories you've already bought in both the prog and in M-CU, and the spine is wrong.  For new readers, it's almost essential - skipping He's Making a List is a shame - and I hope it sells by the truckload to people who buy all that trademark protection garbage that Williams is writing for Marvel, but nobody who owns M-CU needs this.
: Re: Spines
: MR. ELIMINATOR 27 October, 2011, 04:20:38 PM
I currently have 5 Dredd books now, and when on my shelf, it is quite clear they don't really fit. They are all different stories, but if they went through the effort of having all spines similar (dredd's face and red lettering) they could have at least one it properly. The titles all start at different levels, and even the two Tour of Duty's Backlash and Mega-City Justice don't really seem to fit. I've also noticed that some the 2000ad logo has a red square behind it, and some don't.

Why all the little changes? I know it's not that important, but I like my collections to look neat and they just look a bit weird.

(Also the Henry flint collection ruins it a bit as the cover is white, which slightly goes onto the spine making it stand out.)
: Re: Spines
: James Stacey 27 October, 2011, 04:25:33 PM
I've also noticed that some the 2000ad logo has a red square behind it, and some don't.
This was due to them changing the branding on the comic and then back again. You raise lots of good points, all of which make me cry and keep me up at night.  :'(
: Re: Spines
: COMMANDO FORCES 27 October, 2011, 04:31:29 PM
I know it's not that important, but I like my collections to look neat and they just look a bit weird.

WHAT! It's very important.

You might as well put a plain white spine on the shelves and write your own blurb down it than have this mess destroy the Feng Shui of the bookcase!
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 27 October, 2011, 04:34:19 PM
Do you think Dredd has these problems with his Law books?
: Re: Spines
: COMMANDO FORCES 27 October, 2011, 04:36:22 PM
NO!
: Re: Spines
: James Stacey 27 October, 2011, 04:40:42 PM
Do you think Dredd has these problems with his Law books?
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/megazine/hires/300.jpg)

nice and neat
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 27 October, 2011, 06:37:37 PM
aren't they binders?
: Re: Spines
: Roger Godpleton 28 October, 2011, 12:47:29 AM
I keep all my books in vertical piles. The smaller the surface area, the higher the book.

: Re: Spines
: O Lucky Stevie! 28 October, 2011, 04:30:41 AM
Stevie’s trades are in boxes.

Problem solved.
: Re: Spines
: James Stacey 28 October, 2011, 09:13:50 AM
aren't they binders?
Shush you
: Re: Spines
: Spaceghost 28 October, 2011, 09:33:41 AM
Talking of spines, has anyone noticed that the Tour of Duty trade's spines feature the briefly tried 'squared-off' 2000 AD logo and so don't match the other Dredd trades. Presumably, now that logo has been abandoned in favour of the old rounded version, future trades will be printed without the square logo too.

Annoyingly, second print runs of Case Files volumes and the Complete Nemesis collections have the square logo too at the moment further buggering up any sense of symmetry.

I really wish I wasn't bothered about this.
: Re: Spines
: SmallBlueThing 28 October, 2011, 09:41:22 AM
Of course, the spine-madness can go too far the other way. Take DVDs for example- i hate having those 'collection' versions on my shelf- 'the clint eastwood collection', etc. I like the spines of series to be in the same style as each other, but not homogenised.

Yesterday i bought Hellraiser 1-3 from poundland for a quid each. Nicely packaged (other than 3's poster art being a copy/paste of 1 with some buildings behind pinhead)- however, this has the knock-on effect of meaning that 1&3 have basically the same spine, as the top part is the picture of pinhead from the poster. This gave me an extra crease on my forehead as i grumpily pondrred it for ten seconds...

SBT
: Re: Spines
: The Adventurer 28 October, 2011, 10:55:55 AM
On the Square Logo thing, as anal as I am. those logos are so small, and generally similar between the square and 'badge' designs, that it really doesn't chap my ass that much. I do prefer the square design and wish they had not reverted.
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 28 October, 2011, 11:23:17 AM
I tend to use this system:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGlN_EaEgPQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGlN_EaEgPQ)
: Re: Spines
: Trout 28 October, 2011, 12:54:01 PM
Feng Shui of the bookcase![/color]

Do what now? I am very disappointed in you, John. I had no idea you were a sprout-munching, pipe-smoking hippy! ;)
: Re: Spines
: Dandontdare 28 October, 2011, 01:59:52 PM
I bought a book on Feng Shui once - but I couldn't decide where to keep it.

b'dum tish
: Re: Spines
: mogzilla 28 October, 2011, 09:59:19 PM
just turn them all around so the spines are facing the wall then it wont upset you so much!
: Re: Spines
: The Adventurer 09 January, 2012, 11:20:43 AM
Hey gang, I've been compiling a master list of all the 2000 AD collections I own, and how many I don't so I can make some plans on what to buy in the near future. There are some books I'm looking to replace (mostly the old DC trades).

So it looks like Simon and Shuster editions cover a few of these gaps, and of course the question turns to spines. Because that's the whole point of the replacements.

ABC Warriors The Meknificent Seven and The Black Hole S&S editions. Do their spines match the Rebellion spines for Khronicals of Khaos/Third Element/Shadow Warriors?

huh. I guess that's my only question. I guess its the only major gap I could fill (might replace my rebellion copy of Bad Company Vol.1 with the Complete Bad Company. But that's not super important.
: Re: Spines
: Trout 09 January, 2012, 12:33:25 PM
Of course, the real challenge for the ubergeek would be a catalogue of spine art measurements for each volume, depending on what edition it is.

Is anyone geek enough for this? I suspect it's a step too far, even for us.

- Trout
: Re: Spines
: vark 10 January, 2012, 12:30:00 PM

So it looks like Simon and Shuster editions cover a few of these gaps, and of course the question turns to spines. Because that's the whole point of the replacements.

ABC Warriors The Meknificent Seven and The Black Hole S&S editions. Do their spines match the Rebellion spines for Khronicals of Khaos/Third Element/Shadow Warriors?

I will check this evening and come back to you.
: Re: Spines
: Emperor 10 January, 2012, 05:58:32 PM
Of course, the real challenge for the ubergeek would be a catalogue of spine art measurements for each volume, depending on what edition it is.

Is anyone geek enough for this? I suspect it's a step too far, even for us.

Never!!

I'm not saying I'd condone or even encourage such an anal activity (or any anal activity!!) but.... I could see a place for getting all the shots of the various covers into the 2000AD wiki (people do find volumes are can be uncertain what they are, especially if they pop up on eBay, for example) and it'd be rude not to include a photo of the spines all together (as people do ask about it) so if someone wanted to throw in a table of spine measurements... So there is a logical progression there. It'd just depend on whether someone could be bothered.
: Re: Spines
: Dark Jimbo 10 January, 2012, 06:23:33 PM
ABC Warriors The Meknificent Seven and The Black Hole S&S editions. Do their spines match the Rebellion spines for Khronicals of Khaos/Third Element/Shadow Warriors?

Yes, match perfectly. Likewise the paperback editions of The Volgan War.
: Re: Spines
: vark 10 January, 2012, 07:08:23 PM
Yes it matches all the spines and numbers... when they exist:
(https://api.mescontenus.orange.fr/gate/dungeonwire.php?wirecode=yG6af0Gxepg2z2ioA9dwkQroziWMwcq0aGMlBR96Y7Wmp)
: Re: Spines
: The Adventurer 10 January, 2012, 07:11:37 PM
Yes it matches all the spines and numbers... when they exist:
(https://api.mescontenus.orange.fr/gate/dungeonwire.php?wirecode=yG6af0Gxepg2z2ioA9dwkQroziWMwcq0aGMlBR96Y7Wmp)

eeeeeeeeeeee

wait, 'when they exist'? ARe they hard to find, or not out yet? The Volgan Wars SCs matching kinda make me want to buy them as well. Even though I sort of loath the story.
: Re: Spines
: TordelBack 10 January, 2012, 07:19:31 PM
Ooooh, prettty!
: Re: Spines
: IndigoPrime 10 January, 2012, 07:33:21 PM
Interesting, given that the Dante trade is very different design-wise.
: Re: Spines
: The Adventurer 10 January, 2012, 07:34:58 PM
Interesting, given that the Dante trade is very different design-wise.

S&S is so erratic when it comes to their spines. Flawed design or not, at least Rebellion is consistent line-wide.
: Re: Spines
: vark 10 January, 2012, 08:20:07 PM
wait, 'when they exist'? ARe they hard to find, or not out yet? The Volgan Wars SCs matching kinda make me want to buy them as well. Even though I sort of loath the story.
I was talking about the numeration that has misteriously vanished with the volgan war.
: Re: Spines
: The Adventurer 10 January, 2012, 08:23:31 PM
wait, 'when they exist'? ARe they hard to find, or not out yet? The Volgan Wars SCs matching kinda make me want to buy them as well. Even though I sort of loath the story.
I was talking about the numeration that has misteriously vanished with the volgan war.

Well, it makes some sense that the Volgan War is being individual numbered. what with being broken up into 4 or more books (which sort of sucks? I guess.) But its rather less important, because it does remain consistent.
: Re: Spines
: James Stacey 11 January, 2012, 09:29:26 AM
It does make the Dante spine design decision even odder though. It would have been a perfect chance to get sad individuals like me to double dip (well triple as I have the hamlyn ed)
: Re: Spines
: Colin Zeal 11 January, 2012, 03:52:26 PM
I'm going to stay out of this dicussion this time around. I am sat here shaking my head that this topic has started up again though.
: Re: Spines
: SmallBlueThing 11 January, 2012, 03:55:52 PM
I'm going to stay out of this dicussion this time around. I am sat here shaking my head that this topic has started up again though.

Colin, what's your opinion of the MADNESS that are the Mazeworld and Black Hawk spines?

SBT
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 11 January, 2012, 03:56:21 PM
I really feel someone at Rebellion should shoulder the blame for this mess and fall on their whatsit
: Re: Spines
: Colin Zeal 11 January, 2012, 04:00:41 PM
I'm going to stay out of this dicussion this time around. I am sat here shaking my head that this topic has started up again though.

Colin, what's your opinion of the MADNESS that are the Mazeworld and Black Hawk spines?

SBT

I don't think I've even looked at the spines of those trades. I'd be more worried about the content, certainly in Blackhawk's case.
: Re: Spines
: Large48 11 January, 2012, 04:23:23 PM
Mind you, can we now start talking about the different sizes that the different language versions are?

Slaine, English / French / German / Italian are not all the same sizes etc......

You Spien freaks are small time, book sizes is where the pain is!!!!!!

 >:(
: Re: Spines
: Dandontdare 11 January, 2012, 04:28:47 PM
I had a dilemma when shelving all my old french-language books when I finished uni - their spine text runs the other way so you have to tilt your head left instead of right to read along a shelf of 'em. If they're mixed with English books, it's just anarchy. You could shelve them upside down and they'd look the same, but deep down you'd always KNOW they were upside down, and that would clearly be unacceptable.
: Re: Spines
: COMMANDO FORCES 11 January, 2012, 04:29:13 PM
They might as well wrap the books in a plain white cover for all the trouble they take over the spines. It's not too much to ask for that all the spines line up and to be told a load of old guff about why they can't is just not on. I find it strange that other companies can manage it easily enough in the 21st Century  :o
: Re: Spines
: Emperor 11 January, 2012, 04:37:30 PM
I'm going to stay out of this dicussion this time around. I am sat here shaking my head that this topic has started up again though.

Indeed, until we can get the left-right / right-left business (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,34474.msg631637.html#msg631637) sorted to my satisfaction* discussing the spine trade dress is like re-arranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. Madness.

* i.e. everyone agrees with me. ;)
: Re: Spines
: COMMANDO FORCES 11 January, 2012, 04:42:04 PM
Book 1 always goes to the left and that is the LAW!
: Re: Spines
: James Stacey 11 January, 2012, 04:53:12 PM
The Emperor, single handedly re-writing Dewey Decimal.
: Re: Spines
: Colin Zeal 11 January, 2012, 05:00:42 PM
Caring about the numbering isn't madness. They go from left to right and that's the end of it.
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 11 January, 2012, 05:11:48 PM
The Annuals got it right so when not the Trades?
: Re: Spines
: COMMANDO FORCES 11 January, 2012, 05:17:14 PM
It'll probably be sorted once a new set of trades come out on the 40th anniversary, so everyone can collect those as well  ;)
: Re: Spines
: SmallBlueThing 11 January, 2012, 05:24:01 PM
What I want is for them to restart the 'Digital Archives', and this time do all 1765+ progs to date- but with spines that are designed to look like a wodge of comics. So when you have them all on your shelf it looks exactly like you have a massive bookcase full of comics. When they do this, I'll put them next to my massive bookcase full of comics, and the other massive bookcase full of reprint editions of the same comics, and the other massive bookcase full of mismatched Rebellion-spined editions. Then I'll take my pants off and jump up and down as my wife shows people* around our house.

SBT

*doctors.
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 11 January, 2012, 05:25:47 PM
SBT, It would be more fun the other way round  ;)
: Re: Spines
: SuperSurfer 11 January, 2012, 05:41:34 PM
The Annuals got it right so when not the Trades?

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x141/mycenaean/photos/2000ad-jd-annuals.jpg)
: Re: Spines
: Large48 11 January, 2012, 05:49:41 PM
What I want is for them to restart the 'Digital Archives', and this time do all 1765+ progs to date- but with spines that are designed to look like a wodge of comics. So when you have them all on your shelf it looks exactly like you have a massive bookcase full of comics. When they do this, I'll put them next to my massive bookcase full of comics, and the other massive bookcase full of reprint editions of the same comics, and the other massive bookcase full of mismatched Rebellion-spined editions. Then I'll take my pants off and jump up and down as my wife shows people* around our house.

SBT

*doctors.

SBT I want your life................ :D
: Re: Spines
: Large48 11 January, 2012, 05:51:33 PM
Well at least the annuals are the same size!!!!!!!!!!1
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 11 January, 2012, 06:25:31 PM
Date order!! come on guys!  ::)
: Re: Spines
: IndigoPrime 11 January, 2012, 08:54:57 PM
I find it strange that other companies can manage it easily enough in the 21st Century
Most screw up somewhere. One of my Usagi Yojimbo books lacks the number on the spine. And the Peanuts collections, which until 61/62 nicely had the Canongate logo in the book's key colour, now have the spine logo in bright red, which looks fucking horrible. Given the sheer variety of material and book thickness, I think Rebellion does pretty well.

Also, I want whatever drugs SmallBlueThing is ingesting.
: Re: Spines
: SuperSurfer 11 January, 2012, 08:56:57 PM
!tfel ot thgir morf daer ot sekil eh fi tahw os, rorepmE no ysae og ,syug yeH
: Re: Spines
: SmallBlueThing 11 January, 2012, 08:57:22 PM
Coffee, nicotine and existential angst.

SBT
: Re: Spines
: Large48 11 January, 2012, 09:51:13 PM
And I thought it was that unlimited supply of boobies..... :(

And can we get the artwork all the same size so that it can be put in folders properly please!

Why can't the S&S GN's have a little something on the spine to signify that they are US versions?

I think we need another Southern Meeting asap to discuss these important issues!
: Re: Spines
: The Adventurer 11 January, 2012, 11:42:27 PM
S&S trades have US dollar prices on the back. I find that is indicator enough.
: Re: Spines
: COMMANDO FORCES 12 January, 2012, 12:59:57 AM
You don't see the back when they are on the bookcase  ::)
: Re: Spines
: vark 12 January, 2012, 06:36:54 AM
I had a dilemma when shelving all my old french-language books when I finished uni - their spine text runs the other way so you have to tilt your head left instead of right to read along a shelf of 'em. If they're mixed with English books, it's just anarchy. You could shelve them upside down and they'd look the same, but deep down you'd always KNOW they were upside down, and that would clearly be unacceptable.
It's even more tricky than that, because if all the US or UK trade text spine are always oriented in the same way (bending your head to the right), in France, depending on the editor, it's either one way or another. So when you're looking for a particular item on the shelf, it's kind of a strange gymnastics (better do it when there is nobody around).
: Re: Spines
: Large48 12 January, 2012, 09:27:03 AM
Vark - that's very true, up and down left to right, its a RSI nightmare!
: Re: Spines
: SuperSurfer 12 January, 2012, 11:34:47 AM
It was explained to me once that French book spines are designed to be read when on shelves and UK ones when a book is lying flat on a surface.

?think I argument Emperor's explaining to way some goes Which

(Sorry for making that gag a second time.)
: Re: Spines
: Emperor 12 January, 2012, 03:17:58 PM
It was explained to me once that French book spines are designed to be read when on shelves and UK ones when a book is lying flat on a surface.

?think I argument Emperor's explaining to way some goes Which

(Sorry for making that gag a second time.)

Indeed. In a vertical stack 1 goes at the top so you read down, then you put that stack on its side and 1 is now on the right - to read them you cock your head to right and essentially read downwards right to left.
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 12 January, 2012, 03:33:23 PM
your mouth is full of wrong! what about adding the latest one? all that double handling, tsk H&S not to mention RSI
: Re: Spines
: Dash Decent 13 January, 2012, 02:00:16 PM
Guys!  You're overlooking something even more serious!  The multi colour-coded Dredd sequence has been violated!

All Case File volume 1's (1, 11, 21 etc) have to have red spines, right?  And all volume 2's (2, 12, 22, etc) have to have yellow spines, etc etc.

The Cosh has time-travelled into the future and brought back the abomination that is Case Files 60.  It SHOULD be white, but the @#&*!% made you looking thing's grey!

(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/103/filing003.jpg)
: Re: Spines
: James Stacey 13 January, 2012, 02:02:29 PM
Its also French judging by the orientation of the lettering. The Emperor will be pleased.
: Re: Spines
: TordelBack 13 January, 2012, 02:20:00 PM
I'm just off to cut the very last three shelves for my all-new revised house-wide bookshelf reorganisation project (necessitated because at the age of 2-going-on-22 I think it's about time that my poor neglected daughter didn't have to sleep in a room stacked floor-to-ceiling with GNs, SF and straight novels, Archaeology, History and Science books, Star Wars crapiana, and so what hasn't been sold yet has to go somewhere). 

Is it wrong that I'm whistling a jaunty tune to myself as I contemplate a complete re-ordering of my remaining (and thus most precious) books?  Must review this entire thread to develop a scheme, but first, Nurse!  The tenon saw!
: Re: Spines
: Colin Zeal 13 January, 2012, 02:30:27 PM
I'm curious to know which book Cosh dislikes so much he's turned the spine around so we can't see the name of it.
: Re: Spines
: James Stacey 13 January, 2012, 02:38:23 PM
I'm curious to know which book Cosh dislikes so much he's turned the spine around so we can't see the name of it.
A process of elimination will lead you to conclude its Casefiles 16  :geek:
: Re: Spines
: TordelBack 13 January, 2012, 02:39:09 PM
Presumably the Lulu.com deluxe printing of Django Zoon: The Straightener.
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 13 January, 2012, 03:07:53 PM
I'm curious to know which book Cosh dislikes so much he's turned the spine around so we can't see the name of it.

Porn
: Re: Spines
: James Stacey 13 January, 2012, 03:10:18 PM
It's actually a copy of 'The Courtship of Jena Makarov'. He just didn't want the Huffster to comment on character mortality.
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 13 January, 2012, 03:16:51 PM
You mean she ? naw better not   ;)
: Re: Spines
: TordelBack 14 January, 2012, 12:50:21 PM
Yes, yeesssss!   A few weeks behind schedule, but a total of 22m of shelving is now complete, spread across three rooms, our books for the exclusive and sole use of.  Not including new cupboarded space set aside for CDs, DVDs, files etc., my former office library (in storage in my brother's house, along with some flatpack shelves set against the day I have an office again), and three smaller bookcases reserved for the kids.  Lion's share is gloriously accessible in the living room, cobbled together rather nattily into a built-in unit from re-used and re-sized IKEA Billys and scrap timber.  An end to boxes and attics and teetering piles, except for all that stuff that won't fit, which is heading for a car-boot sale, and then (lets face it) the charity shops.  We've already eBayed anything that seemed vaguely valuable.  If the leftovers include any comicky  or genre stuff, I'll put up a free-to-a-good-home list here first.

Let the rigid ordering of spines commence!  Well, right after I get a system down, get some jobs done for my father-in-law, and prepare the vegetable patch while this dry weather holds.  So soon.  Honest. 
: Re: Spines
: I, Cosh 14 January, 2012, 02:25:52 PM
Presumably the Lulu.com deluxe printing of Django Zoon: The Straightener.
I LOLed quite a bit.

Good work on the shelving. Now the nightmare begins! Should you file by author, genre, subject, size, series, etc... Best of British.
: Re: Spines
: Emperor 14 January, 2012, 04:17:51 PM
Good work on the shelving. Now the nightmare begins! Should you file by author, genre, subject, size, series, etc... Best of British.

Or a fiendishly complicated system known only to yourself?
: Re: Spines
: The Legendary Shark 14 January, 2012, 04:32:00 PM
I just use the Dumpitt system.
: Re: Spines
: Large48 15 January, 2012, 07:28:34 PM
It should be size (decending) then title (ascending) then colour then date published then foreign language versions (order of languages yet to be decided!)

 :o
: Re: Spines
: TordelBack 15 January, 2012, 08:06:31 PM
Answer me this:  where in the name of mindfuckery do I shelve the most recent The Dead Man GN, tell me that, hmmm, hmmm, HMMMMM?
: Re: Spines
: Grant Goggans 15 January, 2012, 08:23:07 PM
Between D.R & Quinch and Durham Red.
: Re: Spines
: TordelBack 15 January, 2012, 08:31:47 PM
Between D.R & Quinch and Durham Red.

Not between The Cursed Earth Vol 2 and The Final Solution then? 
: Re: Spines
: I, Cosh 15 January, 2012, 08:45:10 PM
Answer me this:  where in the name of mindfuckery do I shelve the most recent The Dead Man GN, tell me that, hmmm, hmmm, HMMMMM?
As can be clearly seen in my own image, it sits between Case Files 13 & 14. If you're really determined, you could cut CF14 in two at the start of "Tale of the Dead Man" and file the halves on each side.
: Re: Spines
: TordelBack 15 January, 2012, 08:47:58 PM
As can be clearly seen in my own image, it sits between Case Files 13 & 14.

Somewhere along the way you've lost sight of the importance of spinal continuity.  It's all about the reading for you now, isn't it?  :'(
: Re: Spines
: COMMANDO FORCES 15 January, 2012, 08:54:39 PM
If any of you that have posted on here in a mocking tone about the horror that is Rebellions spines have an item from Apple, with its aesthetically pleasing designs, well you can just jolly well drokk off!
: Re: Spines
: I, Cosh 15 January, 2012, 09:09:45 PM
If any of you that have posted on here in a mocking tone about the horror that is Rebellions spines have an item from Apple, with its aesthetically pleasing designs, well you can just jolly well drokk off!
I have genuinely never liked the clean aesthetic of Apple products. I like jaggy, cluttered or garishly coloured things.

I even thought the early Sony mp3 walkman thing (but not the horrible fat one that came after) looked cooler than the iPod.
: Re: Spines
: Grant Goggans 15 January, 2012, 10:57:41 PM
Of course, I actually meant between D.R. & Quinch and Defoe.

I apologize for the error.
: Re: Spines
: Ancient Otter 15 January, 2012, 11:18:25 PM
Ampney Crucis Investigates: Vile Bodies has a white spine and a white back cover with a large illustration of Ampney in contrast to the black minimalist design on other 2000AD softcover trades. If anyone has a problem with that.  :)
: Re: Spines
: The Adventurer 16 January, 2012, 05:13:40 AM
Oh Rebellion. I love it when you troll us.

Does it at least follow the standard design, if not the color scheme? Or is it more like the Mega City Undercover TP?
: Re: Spines
: James Stacey 16 January, 2012, 09:16:22 AM
As can be clearly seen in my own image, it sits between Case Files 13 & 14.

Somewhere along the way you've lost sight of the importance of spinal continuity.  It's all about the reading for you now, isn't it?  :'(

Looks like we got ourselves a 'Reader'
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 16 January, 2012, 01:14:34 PM
TB we need fotaes of the shelves, before AND after. ;)

I got the Adventures of Herge for my xmas and it's a different size from my Tintin books, why in the name of all that's Snowy would they do that? 
: Re: Spines
: Ancient Otter 16 January, 2012, 08:25:28 PM
Oh Rebellion. I love it when you troll us.

Does it at least follow the standard design, if not the color scheme? Or is it more like the Mega City Undercover TP?

I've never read that so I can't compare it. Publisher credits are on the inside front cover, along with a large colour illustration of Ampney's car stretching onto the title page, then it's onto standard design. Just noticed there is no spine number either, possibly because the spine is quite narrow compared to other 2000AD collections. If anyone cares :)
: Re: Spines
: I, Cosh 19 January, 2012, 12:17:36 AM
I had known for a while that I needed to reclaim the Rebellion shelf and a half for actual books, so I went out and got myself one of those Argos bastards. Here's the new look.
Top half.
(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5231/books002w.jpg)

And below the waterline...
(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/3351/books004c.jpg)
: Re: Spines
: The Adventurer 19 January, 2012, 03:46:20 AM
Man, I never realized how fat the Anderson Psi-Files collection is. Damn that's a fat trade.

Also, those Rogue Trooper Tales of Nu-Earth trades have sexy matching spines. So sweet.
: Re: Spines
: Emperor 19 January, 2012, 04:28:57 AM
The Horror!!
: Re: Spines
: O Lucky Stevie! 19 January, 2012, 04:34:02 AM
Is that Semtex that you've got strapped to the underside of your shelf there Cosh?
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 19 January, 2012, 02:23:42 PM
Cosh, What's that PKD book like? anygood?
: Re: Spines
: I, Cosh 19 January, 2012, 11:16:27 PM
Cosh, What's that PKD book like? anygood?
Yeah. It's a bit French but well worth a read if you've any interest in Dick. A bit of an eye opener in terms of just how mad a bastard he was.
: Re: Spines
: SuperSurfer 20 January, 2012, 12:59:25 AM
That set of Case Files looks great. And I mean that.
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 20 January, 2012, 11:46:37 AM
Cosh, What's that PKD book like? anygood?
Yeah. It's a bit French but well worth a read if you've any interest in Dick. A bit of an eye opener in terms of just how mad a bastard he was.
Cheers, will stick it on ma wish list
: Re: Spines
: Third Estate Ned 02 February, 2012, 05:14:57 PM
What's that Strontium Dog volume 5 book on The Cosh's shelf? Is it The Final Solution? Also, is the 4th Stronty collection any good?
: Re: Spines
: James Stacey 02 February, 2012, 05:19:55 PM
Yep. Final solution is #5
: Re: Spines
: Third Estate Ned 02 February, 2012, 05:49:47 PM
Cheers. I enjoy this thread because, apart from voyeuristically peering into people's living rooms, you can see the fatness of the trades to judge value for money on your next buy.

CF 9 looks fit to burst.
: Re: Spines
: Tombo 02 February, 2012, 05:52:10 PM
Speaking of Argos shelving I picked up a new book case the other day, the smaller version of the one The Cosh bought (which I'm pretty sure is from the Maine range, not the Bastard range  :lol: ).  Pretty good for £14, although because of the hole spacing it's not possible to get three shelves of full sized graphic novels in.  Good thing I'm planning on getting a load of Star Wars and Indiana Jones omnibuses this year.
: Re: Spines
: TordelBack 02 February, 2012, 06:44:28 PM
Pretty good for £14, although because of the hole spacing it's not possible to get three shelves of full sized graphic novels in.

Psst. 

(http://img.directindustry.com/images_di/photo-g/cordless-electric-drill-screwdriver-382051.jpg)
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 02 February, 2012, 06:49:24 PM
Tombo, didn't realise the DMZ spines made the Manhatten skyline, sweet!
: Re: Spines
: Tombo 02 February, 2012, 07:11:31 PM
Psst. 

(Pic of drill)

I did honestly think of doing that but A) I don't think I'd be capable of making the holes line up straight, B) three rows of full sized would be too tight, and C) Like I could be trusted with a drill in the first place, my brother has still not forgiven me for the whole brand new table/orbital sander "incident" and that was twenty odd years ago.

Tombo, didn't realise the DMZ spines made the Manhatten skyline, sweet!

It's what caught my eye in FP in the first place, its a really clever idea.
: Re: Spines
: TordelBack 02 February, 2012, 08:15:42 PM
I did honestly think of doing that...

I know you did, was just funnin' ya.
: Re: Spines
: SmallBlueThing 02 February, 2012, 08:38:05 PM
I forgot to say that I bought one of them there Argos shelves the other week. Here it is, in my dining room:

(http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q599/SteevTH/bookcase.jpg)

SBT
: Re: Spines
: The Adventurer 02 February, 2012, 09:38:15 PM
Wound up reevaluating my decision to integrate my 2000 AD trades with my main book shelf. So I pulled them all out and put them on their own designated one. They were just sagging too much mixed in with the others. It was causing too much cover warp.

This seems to work better.

(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/7474/2000adshelf1.jpg)
: Re: Spines
: Dark Jimbo 02 February, 2012, 09:44:51 PM
They were just sagging too much mixed in with the others. It was causing too much cover warp.

Actually that reminds me of something I was thinking of bringing up here - sounds like it might even be the same problem. I have my 2k trades in a row, on a shelf, and the spines all sit together fine; but the front ends of the books are all sagging downward. The books up against the vertical bit of the shelf unit are fine, but those at the other end are getting all warped and bendy. Is there a solution to this, or would I be better stacking the books horizontally, like Cosh?
: Re: Spines
: The Adventurer 02 February, 2012, 09:58:49 PM
They were just sagging too much mixed in with the others. It was causing too much cover warp.

Actually that reminds me of something I was thinking of bringing up here - sounds like it might even be the same problem. I have my 2k trades in a row, on a shelf, and the spines all sit together fine; but the front ends of the books are all sagging downward. The books up against the vertical bit of the shelf unit are fine, but those at the other end are getting all warped and bendy. Is there a solution to this, or would I be better stacking the books horizontally, like Cosh?

What seems to be happening is, the spines of the books are actually thicker then the actually cover+pages part of the book. So when you line them up, and square their spines together. The pages and covers have a lot more wriggle room, and gravity pulls them down, or left and right. And because of how heavy the glossy paper stock* is, when it pulls left or right. It applies a lot of pressure on adjacent books. And if you leave them sagging like that for a long time, the cover start to hold their shape.

I think it has to do with how much wider 2000 AD collections are compared to regular US comic collections.


*the case files, with their non-glossy paper. Don't seem to have this problem.
: Re: Spines
: Dark Jimbo 02 February, 2012, 10:02:31 PM
They were just sagging too much mixed in with the others. It was causing too much cover warp.

I have my 2k trades in a row, on a shelf, and the spines all sit together fine; but the front ends of the books are all sagging downward. The books up against the vertical bit of the shelf unit are fine, but those at the other end are getting all warped and bendy.

What seems to be happening is, the spines of the books are actually thicker then the actually cover+pages part of the book. So when you line them up, and square their spines together. The pages and covers have a lot more wriggle room, and gravity pulls them down, or left and right. And because of how heavy the glossy paper stock* is, when it pulls left or right.

That's it! Is there any solution, does anyone know? Stack fewer trades together?
: Re: Spines
: The Adventurer 02 February, 2012, 10:04:47 PM
They were just sagging too much mixed in with the others. It was causing too much cover warp.

I have my 2k trades in a row, on a shelf, and the spines all sit together fine; but the front ends of the books are all sagging downward. The books up against the vertical bit of the shelf unit are fine, but those at the other end are getting all warped and bendy.

What seems to be happening is, the spines of the books are actually thicker then the actually cover+pages part of the book. So when you line them up, and square their spines together. The pages and covers have a lot more wriggle room, and gravity pulls them down, or left and right. And because of how heavy the glossy paper stock* is, when it pulls left or right.

That's it! Is there any solution, does anyone know? Stack fewer trades together?

I'm looking into getting some book ends, to see if that improves things. But I'm actually haven't a really hard time actually finding any!
: Re: Spines
: Tombo 02 February, 2012, 10:16:06 PM
http://www.play.com/Gadgets/Gadgets/4-/6738199/-/Product.html (http://www.play.com/Gadgets/Gadgets/4-/6738199/-/Product.html)
: Re: Spines
: Buttonman 02 February, 2012, 11:09:12 PM
Cosh, What's that PKD book like? anygood?
Yeah. It's a bit French but well worth a read if you've any interest in Dick.

Snigger - Edimburghers all rushing to Watersons!
: Re: Spines
: Grant Goggans 02 February, 2012, 11:41:59 PM
I slip a piece of cardboard, about a quarter-inch thick, in between every seven or eight books.  You can't see the board and it addressed the warping.
: Re: Spines
: I, Cosh 02 February, 2012, 11:46:32 PM
Cheers. I enjoy this thread because, apart from voyeuristically peering into people's living rooms, you can see the fatness of the trades to judge value for money on your next buy.

CF 9 looks fit to burst.
Not the best guide really. CF12 onwards have a broadly similar to the early volumes but are almost half the size because of the improved paper stock.
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 04 February, 2012, 09:58:36 AM
i had noticed the cover warp too on my shelf, this is worsen by a support at the back which books can get caught in, Grant's cardboard seems the best idea.

I must update my photo of me shelves as the xmas gifts and another box have been added, sadly it doesn't look as good as. say SBT shelves, as my stuff is a bit more random.
: Re: Spines
: Dash Decent 16 February, 2012, 11:37:54 AM
I slip a piece of cardboard, about a quarter-inch thick, in between every seven or eight books.  You can't see the board and it addressed the warping.

That's a good idea.  I've been using the hardbacks (ABC Warriors, Prion Best ofs) at various intervals.  It works but of course it means you have a couple of series that are split up.
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 16 February, 2012, 12:24:31 PM
Looking at me bookcase spines last night I realised my Warrior magazines in their collector's binder aren't there! which means there is STILL a box (or two) to be found in Huff Snr Mansions and more books to be added/purged  :o   
: Re: Spines
: I, Cosh 22 November, 2012, 11:15:45 PM
Well, after some serious procrastination I finally got round to rearranging the 2000AD trades. Dredd and associated spin-offs get there own section, so a shiny sixpence to the first Squaxx to correctly identify the filing system being employed here.

(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7373/shelf006.jpg)
: Re: Spines
: TordelBack 22 November, 2012, 11:45:09 PM
Order in which the strips debuted in the Prog.
: Re: Spines
: I, Cosh 23 November, 2012, 12:30:20 AM
Order in which the strips debuted in the Prog.
Bah. I'll have a look in my sock full of pre-Euro currencies and send you any Punts I find.
: Re: Spines
: Colin YNWA 23 November, 2012, 06:59:05 AM
 Is the order of the strips that appeared in the same Prog based on the order they appeared in that Prog? If so that's the kinda attention to detail I can respect.
: Re: Spines
: SmallBlueThing 23 November, 2012, 07:08:49 AM
Is it that they are in the order they first appeared in the prog?

SBT
: Re: Spines
: I, Cosh 23 November, 2012, 09:29:05 AM
Is the order of the strips that appeared in the same Prog based on the order they appeared in that Prog? If so that's the kinda attention to detail I can respect.
Correct. It's nice to be appreciated.
: Re: Spines
: Colin Zeal 23 November, 2012, 09:55:34 AM
You're all strange. Just put them on a shelf, it doesn't matter to the order.
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 23 November, 2012, 09:56:05 AM
Shirley its time for everyone to update their photos here?
: Re: Spines
: TordelBack 23 November, 2012, 10:20:08 AM
You're all strange. Just put them on a shelf, it doesn't matter to the order.

BAN THIS POSTER.

This sort of filth wouldn't be allowed if Roger was a Mod.
: Re: Spines
: IndigoPrime 23 November, 2012, 10:40:36 AM
Heh. I've so many books I'd never find anything if they were just bunged on the shelf. My trades are ordered similarly to CDs (which are artist: album title), so series: alphabetical or by volume number if those exist. I make the odd exception, though, with Dead Man nestling amongst the Dredds.
: Re: Spines
: radiator 23 November, 2012, 10:45:09 AM
I've so many books I'd never find anything if they were just bunged on the shelf.

Heh, that's the excuse I use too.
: Re: Spines
: Trout 23 November, 2012, 10:59:27 AM
You're all strange. Just put them on a shelf, it doesn't matter to the order.

Reported.
: Re: Spines
: Trout 23 November, 2012, 11:00:22 AM
Well, after some serious procrastination I finally got round to rearranging the 2000AD trades. Dredd and associated spin-offs get there own section, so a shiny sixpence to the first Squaxx to correctly identify the filing system being employed here.

(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7373/shelf006.jpg)

By the way, is that a comic on the right? What is it?
: Re: Spines
: Grant Goggans 23 November, 2012, 11:08:56 AM
Cosh's shelf is a sad reminder that a new edition of Skizz is needed, so we can all send our old, unsightly DC editions to childrens' hospitals.
: Re: Spines
: Colin Zeal 23 November, 2012, 11:58:21 AM
You're all strange. Just put them on a shelf, it doesn't matter to the order.

BAN THIS POSTER.

This sort of filth wouldn't be allowed if Roger was a Mod.

Someone has to stand firm against the tidal wave of madness regarding spines and shelves.
: Re: Spines
: TordelBack 23 November, 2012, 12:28:52 PM
Someone has to stand firm against the tidal wave of madness regarding spines and shelves.

Take that slapdash attitude somewhere else.
: Re: Spines
: Richmond Clements 23 November, 2012, 12:39:08 PM
You're all strange. Just put them on a shelf, it doesn't matter to the order.

BAN THIS POSTER.

This sort of filth wouldn't be allowed if Roger was a Mod.

Someone has to stand firm against the tidal wave of madness regarding spines and shelves.

I with you, Colin!
: Re: Spines
: SuperSurfer 23 November, 2012, 01:21:07 PM
If all my 2000AD graphic novels ever make it onto the same bookshelf I might consider some sort of order. Until then chaos rules! Down with order!
: Re: Spines
: I, Cosh 23 November, 2012, 02:02:46 PM
By the way, is that a comic on the right? What is it?
No. It's a bit of card (possibly retrieved from a bag containing a second hand comic) stuck at each end to protect the covers of the outer books from the unused shelf mounting holes.
: Re: Spines
: Trout 23 November, 2012, 02:06:44 PM
By the way, is that a comic on the right? What is it?
No. It's a bit of card (possibly retrieved from a bag containing a second hand comic) stuck at each end to protect the covers of the outer books from the unused shelf mounting holes.

 :lol: Ironic.
: Re: Spines
: sheldipez 29 November, 2012, 02:33:54 PM
Radiator's pic shows all:

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/radiator_2006/IMG_1121.jpg)

more spinetingling fun on the apt thread: http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,33880.0.html (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,33880.0.html)

Wow those Case Files go on a diet from #12; straight down to size 0! Those poor things.
: Re: Spines
: IndigoPrime 29 November, 2012, 03:57:44 PM
Shinier, more colourful, easier to read, and almost as many pages. I don't pity the things at all!
: Re: Spines
: TordelBack 29 November, 2012, 06:50:03 PM
Wow those Case Files go on a diet from #12; straight down to size 0!

Solid muscle.
: Re: Spines
: Skullmo 13 December, 2012, 09:17:59 AM
Radiator's pic shows all:

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/radiator_2006/IMG_1121.jpg)

more spinetingling fun on the apt thread: http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,33880.0.html (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,33880.0.html)

I had never really thought about it . . . .but yes - that misaligned spineage is so annoying. They need to be trained in the Alexander Principle!
: Re: Spines
: SmallBlueThing 13 December, 2012, 10:12:21 AM
There's a special kind of thrill-tingling reserved for when the 'new replies' function on my phone pings to let me know the 'Spines' thread has been updated.

SBT
: Re: Spines
: James Stacey 13 December, 2012, 11:13:42 AM
It's a thread close to my heart too.
: Re: Spines
: The Adventurer 13 December, 2012, 11:18:24 AM
I find my stance about spines has softened in my old age...


Or basically I gave up because of all the inconsistency over the last year or so. You just can't win.  Though i rather do like what they did with Absalom, I kinda hope that's their new 'standard' for all-new series collections.
: Re: Spines
: SmallBlueThing 13 December, 2012, 11:48:32 AM
I'd definitely  prefer a bit more experimentation in the spinage- and even the front covers. Who really wants an entire bookcase full of stuff that looks the same? Surely it's much more interesting to play around with them?

I'd start by redesigning the Case Files- the American ones look great!

There's been some much-appreciated movement in the design of 2000AD trades of late- but the spines have suffered with overuse of the design, i think. Brighter colours! More contrast!

SBT
: Re: Spines
: IndigoPrime 13 December, 2012, 12:30:05 PM
Or basically I gave up because of all the inconsistency over the last year or so. You just can't win.
Quite. Bear in mind even the Peanuts collections by Canongate—surely the easiest spines in the world to get consistent—have errors. Fro 63/64, the logo has been red rather than the book's key colour, and the year stamp moves up and down.
: Re: Spines
: SuperSurfer 13 December, 2012, 12:38:47 PM
I think the spines look great.

One day perhaps someone can explain to me how a 30mm 2000AD spine can be the same as another 6mm 2000AD spine. I just don't get it. Unless all stories are chopped mid way so that all volumes are the same thickness – so that all the spines can match on collector shelves.
: Re: Spines
: Grant Goggans 13 December, 2012, 12:51:18 PM
Titan issued fifteen volumes of James Bond newspaper comics.  Their spines are all perfectly matched.  Except they decided to capitalize each letter in the title of exactly one of them, GOLDFINGER instead of Goldfinger.  Rebellion's never done that to us, although the different designs for Absalom, Mazeworld, etc. really does rankle.
: Re: Spines
: TordelBack 13 December, 2012, 01:42:00 PM
I've only just seen what they've done to Volume 3 the American version of the Dredd Casefiles...  Drokk!  (Photo lifted from Dave Lartigue's entertaining blog www.davexmachina.com).

(http://www.daveexmachina.com/gfx/2012/showcases.jpg)

Mind you, those new Rogue spines look spiffing.
: Re: Spines
: Skullmo 13 December, 2012, 02:45:28 PM
I think the spines look great.

One day perhaps someone can explain to me how a 30mm 2000AD spine can be the same as another 6mm 2000AD spine. I just don't get it. Unless all stories are chopped mid way so that all volumes are the same thickness – so that all the spines can match on collector shelves.

QuarkXpress!
: Re: Spines
: SuperSurfer 13 December, 2012, 04:22:15 PM
I think the spines look great.

One day perhaps someone can explain to me how a 30mm 2000AD spine can be the same as another 6mm 2000AD spine. I just don't get it. Unless all stories are chopped mid way so that all volumes are the same thickness – so that all the spines can match on collector shelves.

QuarkXpress!
Indesign man meself.
: Re: Spines
: Skullmo 14 December, 2012, 08:49:01 AM
I've only just seen what they've done to Volume 3 the American version of the Dredd Casefiles...  Drokk!  (Photo lifted from Dave Lartigue's entertaining blog www.davexmachina.com).

(http://www.daveexmachina.com/gfx/2012/showcases.jpg)

Mind you, those new Rogue spines look spiffing.

Princess of Gemworld! That is one that passed me by!
: Re: Spines
: SmallBlueThing 25 December, 2012, 09:44:35 PM
(http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q599/SteevTH/spines.jpg)

It's as if they've named the two volumes with this thread in mind. "Mon Amour"- I love its font, it matches. "Bete Noir"? IT DOESN'T EVEN MATCH ITSELF!! ARRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!!

SBT
: Re: Spines
: Tombo 26 December, 2012, 01:16:05 PM
Deep breaths SBT, deep breaths.  Maybe the fourth book will have a blue spine as well, then it wont look so bad - two red spines then two blue ones, then two of another colour (how many books is Mr Talbot planning on writing anyway?)
: Re: Spines
: SmallBlueThing 26 December, 2012, 01:41:08 PM
To be honest, it's more the "mon amour"/ "bete noir" text- and the differences in the depth of the "glow" around them. "Bete noir" doesnt even match the "Grandvile" on its own spine, let alone the rest of the series. The blue is fine!

SBT
: Re: Spines
: I, Cosh 26 December, 2012, 03:35:24 PM
Heh. I spy some Requiems there. I have the first two Heavy Metal editions, which are both different sizes and collectively different sized to the two Titan editions. Also, the HM collections have three stories apiece while the Titan ones only manage two so I have no gaps in the run despite only having volumes 1,2,4 and 5. It's an archivist's nightmare.
: Re: Spines
: Grant Goggans 26 December, 2012, 03:43:02 PM
Oh, yeah, those two Requiem books from Heavy Metal are just awful.  Who in the world decided to change sizes between volumes?!
: Re: Spines
: Skullmo 26 December, 2012, 11:22:54 PM
(http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q599/SteevTH/spines.jpg)

It's as if they've named the two volumes with this thread in mind. "Mon Amour"- I love its font, it matches. "Bete Noir"? IT DOESN'T EVEN MATCH ITSELF!! ARRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!!

SBT


Haha! I hope the 4th book is in Times New Roman!
: Re: Spines
: Large48 03 January, 2013, 11:15:33 AM
Grandville - Noel

Is the next one.
: Re: Spines
: vark 08 January, 2013, 09:12:59 AM
Heh. I spy some Requiems there. I have the first two Heavy Metal editions, which are both different sizes and collectively different sized to the two Titan editions. Also, the HM collections have three stories apiece while the Titan ones only manage two so I have no gaps in the run despite only having volumes 1,2,4 and 5. It's an archivist's nightmare.
Because we are in a topic where details count, the UK edition of Requiem is published by Panini, not Titan. ;)
: Re: Spines
: sheldipez 30 September, 2013, 08:15:16 PM
I came across this on Reddit - it made me  :'(

(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu282/DarthSheldo/2bOfuQN_zps1ea21bfc.jpg)
: Re: Spines
: I, Cosh 01 October, 2013, 08:43:32 AM
I came across this on Reddit - it made me  :'(
Ha! I forgot to post a picture but I was buying Hitman recently and I deliberately bought a second hand copy of an older edition of volume 3 so that I'd have one unnumbered in the run.

I find spine numbering quite vulgar in general. I've never needed it to know how to organise my record collection so I don't feel the need for it on comics.
: Re: Spines
: Skullmo 01 October, 2013, 01:44:27 PM
How dare you mock order!  :'(
: Re: Spines
: COMMANDO FORCES 01 October, 2013, 02:04:31 PM
Exactly, if you don't have order, then you have chaos. How on earth would you find one of your books, if that happens!
: Re: Spines
: Recrewt 01 October, 2013, 02:10:26 PM
I came across this on Reddit - it made me  :'(

HaHa!  :lol:
 
That has made me laugh out loud in the office.  Mind you - it would drive me mad if they were mine.
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 01 October, 2013, 04:06:29 PM
I came across this on Reddit - it made me  :'(
Ha! I forgot to post a picture but I was buying Hitman recently and I deliberately bought a second hand copy of an older edition of volume 3 so that I'd have one unnumbered in the run.

I find spine numbering quite vulgar in general. I've never needed it to know how to organise my record collection so I don't feel the need for it on comics.

He SAYS that but no photo evidence, I think he's just geekbaiting
: Re: Spines
: vark 20 October, 2013, 01:14:58 PM
As the Deluxe Titan edition of Charley's War has reached its end (published over ten year), here are what all the outer and inner spines looks like:

(I have uploaded other pictures about this edition here http://myabsolutecollection.blogspot.com/2012/08/charleys-war-titan-books-classic.html (http://myabsolutecollection.blogspot.com/2012/08/charleys-war-titan-books-classic.html))
: Re: Spines
: Colin YNWA 20 October, 2013, 01:23:00 PM
As a general rule I'm not fussed about this type of thing but the complete Charley's War collection will have such a prized place in my collection that that missing poppy will bug me. Still it will be a thing of beauty when the final volume arrives as those pictures show.
: Re: Spines
: COMMANDO FORCES 20 October, 2013, 02:22:48 PM
I would demand a replacement, immediately!
: Re: Spines
: Skullmo 20 October, 2013, 02:52:37 PM
What is bugging me ist hat the books are not all the same height!
: Re: Re: Spines
: radiator 20 October, 2013, 05:03:29 PM
I came across this on Reddit - it made me  :'(
Ha! I forgot to post a picture but I was buying Hitman recently and I deliberately bought a second hand copy of an older edition of volume 3 so that I'd have one unnumbered in the run.

I find spine numbering quite vulgar in general. I've never needed it to know how to organise my record collection so I don't feel the need for it on comics.

You say that, but I remember the pre internet days when DC flatly refused to number their trades, apparently the theory being that they thought sequential  numbers would put off browsers. The ONLY way to tell which volume of Preacher or Hellblazer or whatever to buy next was to read the small print on the inside cover to determine which issues it collected. Was always a right pain in the arse.
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: ThryllSeekyr 21 October, 2013, 03:23:11 AM
Such a pity about the outer spine of number three and as for the dent on the inner spine of number four. I would have sent it back and asked for another.
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: Trout 21 October, 2013, 04:03:20 AM
I came across this on Reddit - it made me  :'(
Ha! I forgot to post a picture but I was buying Hitman recently and I deliberately bought a second hand copy of an older edition of volume 3 so that I'd have one unnumbered in the run.

I find spine numbering quite vulgar in general. I've never needed it to know how to organise my record collection so I don't feel the need for it on comics.

Sicko.

I've been buying Hitman recently and I'm kind of horrified that volume five, which is thicker than the others, looks different, spinewise. I can't decide if it's a different edition or just because of the thickness. I will investigate.

Either way, annoying.
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: TordelBack 21 October, 2013, 08:41:45 AM
It's only a matter of time before thus thread goes the way of Underware [sic].  Pure filth.
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: Colin Zeal 21 October, 2013, 12:31:18 PM
Everytime this thread reappears it allows me to shake my head at all of you weirdos who think spine design matters.
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: James Stacey 21 October, 2013, 01:11:07 PM
Every time this thread reappears I give a little cheer. I love this thread.
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: Dandontdare 21 October, 2013, 02:21:19 PM
some of those Charley's war spines don't even look the same HEIGHT, let alone design. I may have to have a lie down in a darkened room to get over that.
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: SmallBlueThing 21 October, 2013, 02:27:40 PM
I have a littor alarm that goes off when this thread is updated- and wherever I am in the world and whatever I am doing,  I make my excuses and nip off to a quiet room, whip it out and spend a few happy minutes gazing at the thing that makes me happiest in the world.

SBT
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: Skullmo 21 October, 2013, 02:30:15 PM
I have a littor alarm that goes off when this thread is updated- and wherever I am in the world and whatever I am doing,  I make my excuses and nip off to a quiet room, whip it out and spend a few happy minutes gazing at the thing that makes me happiest in the world.

SBT

Ahh, you have the complete Zenith book too?
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: Hawkmumbler 21 October, 2013, 07:43:33 PM
This thread reminds me of my love/ hate relationship with Viz Media and IDW. The former published te first two volumes with a tin silver shine to the cover and spine. After that it was replaced by a dull, grey tone. Wankers. The latter NEVER have a series of trades that are the same height. My Doctor Who tpb's look like a sea of jagged edges. Wtf?
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: vark 22 October, 2013, 10:09:07 AM
Such a pity about the outer spine of number three and as for the dent on the inner spine of number four. I would have sent it back and asked for another.
Yes, but as I rarely use them without their dust jacket it doesn't bother me too much. And as all the books were sent through amazon, overall I consider myself lucky. :-\
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: vark 13 December, 2013, 08:03:58 PM
Hilarious advert in French bandes dessinées magazine about the new volume of a series that changes his format from half vertical A4 to plain A4.

"hysterical wave of reactions among collectors: volume 5 of Animal Lecteur is published in a different format!"

"Why?, Why?", "It will exceed in the shelf" "They've done it, they have dare!"

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: vark 13 December, 2013, 08:13:22 PM
And I forgot in the left low corner: "For sale in the most courageous libraries"
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: CrazyFoxMachine 13 December, 2013, 08:52:55 PM
:D That's excellent!
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: TordelBack 13 December, 2013, 08:54:16 PM
Funniest thing I've seen in ages!
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: TordelBack 13 December, 2013, 08:55:00 PM
Although it's no laughing matter.  :geek:
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: IronGraham 13 December, 2013, 09:35:22 PM
He He hope Judge Burdis didn't hear me :ssh:
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: vark 13 December, 2013, 09:57:42 PM
Although it's no laughing matter.  :geek:
I hear you :geek:
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: IronGraham 18 December, 2013, 07:01:21 PM
What do the US case file spines look like?
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: COMMANDO FORCES 19 December, 2013, 03:29:21 AM
He He hope Judge Burdis didn't hear me :ssh:

I watch this thread with a permanent scowl, as the torture that is the spine debate continues :'(
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: IronGraham 19 December, 2013, 09:36:49 AM
He He hope Judge Burdis didn't hear me :ssh:

I watch this thread with a permanent scowl, as the torture that is the spine debate continues :'(


(Run for the radiated hills)
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: Proudhuff 19 December, 2013, 10:57:13 AM
He He hope Judge Burdis didn't hear me :ssh:

I watch this thread with a permanent scowl, as the torture that is the spine debate continues :'(

Good job he's doesn't monitor the 'Dust' thread  :-[
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: shaolin_monkey 19 December, 2013, 01:58:40 PM
I'm not usually very anal about this kind of stuff, but I do like the look of all my Lone Wolf and Cub volumes stacked in numerical order on my shelf.
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: Skullmo 05 October, 2014, 11:09:14 AM
I am missing the spines thread.

Here is something to cause controversy

(http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p599/skullmo2000/P1000444_zps17e5fc02.jpg)
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: COMMANDO FORCES 05 October, 2014, 03:21:42 PM
GET OUT!

How could you do that to us all! I can see everyone booking in for some intensive therapy now :'(
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: J.Smith 05 October, 2014, 03:47:28 PM
If I could, I would burn that shelf to ashes. T_T
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: I, Cosh 05 October, 2014, 03:52:39 PM
I like it. It's similar to one of my own more experimental phases: http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,34474.msg631810.html#msg631810
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: Hawkmumbler 05 October, 2014, 04:27:37 PM
YOUR A GOD DAMN DEVIANT AS WELL!!!!!!
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: Tombo 06 October, 2014, 05:13:25 PM
I'm glad this threads been resurrected since it lets me ask a pertinent question without having to create a new tread.  It is the definitive question regarding shelving.  Or rather a question about the definitive article.

When people are arranging their shelving A-Z where do you put titles which begin with the word "The" i.e. does The Boys go near the beginning of your shelving or at the end?  What about The Losers? The Sandman, The Walking Dead?

Personally I'm tempted to ignore the "The" and simply place each series based on the second word of the title.
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: IndigoPrime 06 October, 2014, 05:17:01 PM
That's what I do. A lot of listings put a 'the' on the end anyway, after a comma.
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: Dandontdare 06 October, 2014, 06:19:44 PM
When it comes to my Marvel GNs I order them by character - so all the various incarnations of the Avengers on the left, moving to the various X-titles on the right. But where the hell am I supposed to put the Avengers vs X-men books eh? EH? (and don't suggest the bin - they weren't THAT bad!)


I'm still wrestling unsuccessfully with my phone to get a picture uploaded of my latest horror - I bought vols 1-3 of Superior Spiderman off Amazon - they are slim with white spines. I later went back to buy vols 3-6 - they are much thicker with the black-and-red format spines.
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: Hawkmumbler 06 October, 2014, 06:27:15 PM
I order things by continent < country < publicant < chronological order of first appearence.

Though this leaves a few bouncing around as I can't decide where they belong (should Miracleman and V for Vendetta go with under Warrior in the UK material, or in the misc. US material?...) ultimateky I find little folt with how it's layed out. Gantz is a nightmare though because looks wierd next to all the massive Biz edition sof All You Need is Kill and Biomega.
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: Proudhuff 06 October, 2014, 06:46:06 PM
I put mine on order of how much I think the author is a dick
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: IronGraham 06 October, 2014, 08:01:08 PM
When it comes to my Marvel GNs I order them by character - so all the various incarnations of the Avengers on the left, moving to the various X-titles on the right. But where the hell am I supposed to put the Avengers vs X-men books eh? EH? (and don't suggest the bin - they weren't THAT bad!)


I'm still wrestling unsuccessfully with my phone to get a picture uploaded of my latest horror - I bought vols 1-3 of Superior Spiderman off Amazon - they are slim with white spines. I later went back to buy vols 3-6 - they are much thicker with the black-and-red format spines.


Did you by any chance get half the us collection and the other half the uk collections?
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: Skullmo 07 October, 2014, 12:31:13 AM
I'm glad this threads been resurrected since it lets me ask a pertinent question without having to create a new tread.  It is the definitive question regarding shelving.  Or rather a question about the definitive article.

When people are arranging their shelving A-Z where do you put titles which begin with the word "The" i.e. does The Boys go near the beginning of your shelving or at the end?  What about The Losers? The Sandman, The Walking Dead?

Personally I'm tempted to ignore the "The" and simply place each series based on the second word of the title.

To use someone else's joke

I arranged my record collection alphabetically and they all ended up in the T section because they started with The. So I ignored The. And it was fine until I got to 'The The'.
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: I, Cosh 07 October, 2014, 01:39:17 AM
The definite article is always ignored for filing purposes. An indefinite article is contingent. This is where I expect Colin to burst into song.
I order things by continent < country < publicant < chronological order of first appearence.
Excellent work. Out of interest, is it country of origin of the publisher or the character? Depending on your answer, where would you file A: Alpha Flight, B: Captain Britain, C: Marvel UK, D: Different volumes of Requiem published by Heavy Metal (which you had to order from us amazon) and Panini?
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: The Adventurer 07 October, 2014, 08:11:49 AM
There isn't a day that goes by that I'm not thankful that switching to 99% digital has alleviated the nightmare that was graphic novel spines from my life.


Now its just hard drive folder organization that is the bane of my existence!
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: Hawkmumbler 07 October, 2014, 09:14:06 AM
I order things by continent < country < publicant < chronological order of first appearence.
Excellent work. Out of interest, is it country of origin of the publisher or the character? Depending on your answer, where would you file A: Alpha Flight, B: Captain Britain, C: Marvel UK, D: Different volumes of Requiem published by Heavy Metal (which you had to order from us amazon) and Panini?
Excellent points, though I personally don't own any Alpha Flight can explain the others.
Though this might sound controversial, I keep my Marvel Uk material (the Claremont, Frierich and Moore Captain Britain material, Deaths Head and Dragons Claws) along side my UK material, specificaly next to the Panini Doctor Who Magazine reprints.

Requim is an oddity, though I only own the first volume so far, being a "Franco-British" comic it's right at the very end of my UK material next to the likes of Marshal Law and The Best of Milligan and McCarthy amongst other oddities that have a distinctively 'English' feel to them even if more than half of the content was produced outside of the UK.
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: Recrewt 07 October, 2014, 12:47:36 PM
I'm still wrestling unsuccessfully with my phone to get a picture uploaded of my latest horror - I bought vols 1-3 of Superior Spiderman off Amazon - they are slim with white spines. I later went back to buy vols 3-6 - they are much thicker with the black-and-red format spines.

I think there are two versions of the Superior Spiderman trades (ignoring the hardbacks).  Don't now why they have done this, but perhaps you have mixed the two types? 
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: TordelBack 07 October, 2014, 01:16:51 PM
...the nightmare that was graphic novel spines from my life.

It ain't spines that're your problem - it's backbone.
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: Proudhuff 07 October, 2014, 01:28:16 PM
...the nightmare that was graphic novel spines from my life.

It ain't spines that're your problem - it's backbone.

s'right, sorting out the bookshelf spines is one of life's little joys
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: IronGraham 10 October, 2014, 12:11:38 PM
Now that my Nikolai Dante collection is complete here are the spines.
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: Hawkmumbler 10 October, 2014, 12:13:41 PM
As amazing as the series is, and it is, having three spines then a sudden change is painful!
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: TordelBack 10 October, 2014, 12:14:16 PM
The new editions are flippin' gorgeous, mind.
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: J.Smith 10 October, 2014, 02:27:22 PM
This thread, man. So many tears.  :'(

By the way, will all the volumes of Nikolai Dante be getting these reprints? Know that the next two books, the Tsar Wars, are out of print, but I don't believe I've seen it mentioned anywhere what'll happen to the rest.
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: Hawkmumbler 10 October, 2014, 02:28:57 PM
More important question, are the historical quotes still intact in the new editions of The Great Game and Love and War?
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: James Stacey 10 October, 2014, 02:37:54 PM
This thread, man. So many tears.  :'(

By the way, will all the volumes of Nikolai Dante be getting these reprints? Know that the next two books, the Tsar Wars, are out of print, but I don't believe I've seen it mentioned anywhere what'll happen to the rest.
I think it will depend on numbers. If they sell well I assume (and hope) so.
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: Dash Decent 11 October, 2014, 01:45:59 PM
I am missing the spines thread.

Here is something to cause controversy

(http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p599/skullmo2000/P1000444_zps17e5fc02.jpg)

Bloody hell.  Why isn't volume 11 over on the left with all the other red ones?
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: Feikki 14 October, 2014, 05:22:15 PM
You're supposed to distribute the red ones between the colourful ones!  ;)
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: I, Cosh 28 December, 2014, 01:51:59 PM
I find this almost heartbreakingly beautiful.

(http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii544/TheCosh/iPod_dec036_zps952c29c9.jpg)
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: Spikes 28 December, 2014, 03:11:13 PM
The third one won't match,  ;)
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: Judge Brian 28 December, 2014, 09:08:05 PM
I'm disappointed that Stickelback volume 2 isn't blue.
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: Hawkmumbler 28 December, 2014, 09:09:51 PM
More important question, are the historical quotes still intact in the new editions of The Great Game and Love and War?
I can now verify they are indeed!
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: Mister Pops 28 December, 2014, 11:40:01 PM
So two of my sisters got me the first two volumes of Batman '66.

Volume 1 is Softback.

Volume 2 is Hardback.

I fully understand if the Mods want to ban me for posting these pictures.

I'm a monster.
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: Apestrife 29 December, 2014, 10:54:48 AM
I'm disappointed that Stickelback volume 2 isn't blue.

I'm also blue that it isn't :(

Hope the next one is purple so that it makes sense and the balance to the world is restored :)
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: I, Cosh 29 December, 2014, 11:30:27 AM
Bad form, but the image has disappeared from the original post on account of me fucking around with the folders.
I find this almost heartbreakingly beautiful.
(http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii544/TheCosh/PublicShare/iPod_dec036_zps952c29c9.jpg)
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: Hawkmumbler 29 December, 2014, 11:33:12 AM
All four together will make for a gorgeous collection.
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: Judge Brian 29 December, 2014, 01:56:24 PM
All four together will make for a gorgeous collection.

It will, but I'm not going to pay $100 for a story I already have.

Now, I have to keep telling that to my self every time I see them in my local bookstore.
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: Hawkmumbler 10 March, 2015, 02:08:56 PM
Ahem....WHY THE FUCK DOESN'T CHARLEYS WAR III HAVE A POPPY AT THE TOP?????!!!!!
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: TordelBack 10 March, 2015, 03:37:45 PM
It will, but I'm not going to pay $100 for a story I already have.

Polystyrene doesn't grow on trees you know - multiple dips are what built the House of Tharg.

But yeah, those Zenith spines are so lovely that they could stick Fleisher Rogue Trooper in as bonus content and I'd still buy the other two.
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: Colin YNWA 10 March, 2015, 05:48:45 PM
Ahem....WHY THE FUCK DOESN'T CHARLEYS WAR III HAVE A POPPY AT THE TOP?????!!!!!

I'm not normally one to worry about such things but even I notice that when I look at my lovely volumes sat together.
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: Zenith 666 10 March, 2015, 07:13:36 PM
Cosh has great taste in comics and in games.IKARUGA IS AWESOME.
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: Dark Jimbo 10 March, 2015, 07:16:27 PM
Ahem....WHY THE FUCK DOESN'T CHARLEYS WAR III HAVE A POPPY AT THE TOP?????!!!!!

I always meant to get around to scanning a spine, printing off a spare poppy and sticking it on Vol. III - but now I have passed the curse on to you instead. Mwahahaha!
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: Tjm86 10 March, 2015, 07:31:29 PM
Just curious but how are the more OCD amongst us coping with the random release schedule of the Mega collection?  That has got to be causing some anxiety :o
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: Hawkmumbler 10 March, 2015, 08:29:52 PM
Ahem....WHY THE FUCK DOESN'T CHARLEYS WAR III HAVE A POPPY AT THE TOP?????!!!!!

I always meant to get around to scanning a spine, printing off a spare poppy and sticking it on Vol. III - but now I have passed the curse on to you instead. Mwahahaha!
If I squint and tilt my head to the left it looks like everything as it should be....

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: Apestrife 12 May, 2015, 09:14:08 PM
I feel violated...

(http://36.media.tumblr.com/1932c0ebfe105673746788c3fd1d59de/tumblr_no8cucxM7h1qf427ko1_500.jpg)

What will the women think when they see that one in my JD collection >:( ??!
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: I, Cosh 12 May, 2015, 09:19:11 PM
What have they done?!
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: I, Cosh 12 May, 2015, 09:21:44 PM
Cosh has great taste in comics and in games.IKARUGA IS AWESOME.
Not sure how I missed this wonderful, pithy and insightful comment before. It's also rock hard.
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: Zenith 666 12 May, 2015, 10:30:04 PM
Yes it is.i could one credit to the fourth boss but never could beat him.
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: Hawkmumbler 09 August, 2017, 02:42:24 PM
I do believe there was a general thread for DVD's and such but, eh, here's some new IKEA shelves with the first of my lovelies out of storage...rest to follow as well as COMICS!!!!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGyqoq-WAAEO5f5.jpg:large)
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 09 August, 2017, 03:56:36 PM
Dear Grud, Hawk what have you done?  :o
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: Hawkmumbler 09 August, 2017, 04:01:19 PM
Now LISTEN! DVD's and BD's can and should be mixed you elitist Huffer! :lol:
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: Proudhuff 09 August, 2017, 04:10:15 PM
but what system are you using?

•Dewey Decimal Classification (DDC)
•Library of Congress Classification (LCC)
•Colon classification (CC)
•Universal Decimal Classification (UDC)

or the classic Two Ronnie's Colour coding?
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: Hawkmumbler 09 August, 2017, 04:16:34 PM
I'm using a very personal system called IFFFS:

If it Fucking Fits it Fucking Sits

Plus I got all the Nigel Kneale stuff together what more do you want?!  ;)
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: Proudhuff 09 August, 2017, 04:20:17 PM
If it Fucking Fits it Fucking Sits

I think I know her  :-X
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: Hawkmumbler 09 August, 2017, 04:37:32 PM
I live in Bolton, your probably right.  :lol:
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: Andy B 14 December, 2018, 02:50:13 AM
Brutania Chronicles vol.4 is glossy; the others were matte.

Come on guys....
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: Blue Cactus 03 May, 2019, 07:49:39 PM
Sorry if this makes everyone grimace, but the spine of Complete Case Files 33 says 'MEGAZINES 374 - 3.79' when it should say 'MEGAZINES 3.74 - 3.79'.

Shudder.

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: Blue Cactus 03 May, 2019, 09:48:39 PM
It's worse than I thought... Case Files 32 is the same  :o
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: Richard 04 May, 2019, 09:49:08 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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: JBC 31 October, 2019, 03:22:23 AM
Well, I promised I would post some pics of my Case Files here when they arrived but it's taken me a few days to even find the time - and I'm on vacation! :-\ FedEx beat the box all to hell but luckily they were packed well within. You can see my vol. 9 sustained a nic on the spine but I don't really mind. The layout of my shelves seems to alleviate some of the problems with uniformity and just so happens to leave one space open for vol 34 when it arrives next month. I'm really enjoying these, especially the thicker, lighter older volumes. Give me newsprint over glossy any day.
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: sheridan 31 October, 2019, 08:19:10 AM
So two of my sisters got me the first two volumes of Batman '66.

Volume 1 is Softback.

Volume 2 is Hardback.

I fully understand if the Mods want to ban me for posting these pictures.

I'm a monster.


How did your sisters cope with your disowning them?
: Re: Spines
: sheridan 31 October, 2019, 08:22:03 AM
I do believe there was a general thread for DVD's and such but, eh, here's some new IKEA shelves with the first of my lovelies out of storage...rest to follow as well as COMICS!!!!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGyqoq-WAAEO5f5.jpg:large)


Is that a paint-it-yourself dalek?
: Re: Spines
: TordelBack 31 October, 2019, 09:49:49 AM
Well, I promised I would post some pics of my Case Files here when they arrived but it's taken me a few days to even find the time - and I'm on vacation! :-\ FedEx beat the box all to hell but luckily they were packed well within. You can see my vol. 9 sustained a nic on the spine but I don't really mind. The layout of my shelves seems to alleviate some of the problems with uniformity and just so happens to leave one space open for vol 34 when it arrives next month. I'm really enjoying these, especially the thicker, lighter older volumes. Give me newsprint over glossy any day.

Rainbowtastic! But where will you put your America and Dead Man collections?  ;)
: Re: Spines
: Dandontdare 31 October, 2019, 10:34:26 AM
That is one solid block of thrill-power!
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: Proudhuff 31 October, 2019, 10:44:57 AM
Looking good!
: Re: Spines
: JBC 31 October, 2019, 12:54:53 PM
Rainbowtastic! But where will you put your America and Dead Man collections?  ;)
I guess I'll move that Ultraman stuff up top and lay them flat until I start running out of space. Gotta make room for Fall Of Deadworld 1 & 2 soon as well!
: Re: Spines
: Hawkmumbler 31 October, 2019, 01:17:15 PM

Is that a paint-it-yourself dalek?

Nope! An ooooold pull back and noise Imperial Dalek I got at the (now closed?) Doctor Who shop in Liverpool docks. I remember it fondly.

Funny looking at how anemic my home video collection was back then, it's tripled in size since, as has the comics and books, yet still no proper display. 2020 will be the year that changes.
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 31 October, 2019, 03:49:43 PM
Similar with me Hawkie, I've currently  only one bookcase in the house, while under both beds are crammed with boxes of books and GNs. The rest of the house has piles of books and GN randomly scattered around.

 I had planned to build a entire wall of bookcases, but  it looks like it might have to been IKEA instead, but 2020 will be the year I sort that all out...
: Re: Spines
: Dandontdare 31 October, 2019, 08:57:40 PM
I guess I'll move that Ultraman stuff up top and lay them flat until I start running out of space.

I know that feeling - I bought shelving a few years back to house my collection, but subsequent purchases mean that every shelf now has horizontal books laid on the top of other rows.

I need more room!
: Re: Spines
: sheridan 31 October, 2019, 10:36:39 PM

Is that a paint-it-yourself dalek?

Nope! An ooooold pull back and noise Imperial Dalek I got at the (now closed?) Doctor Who shop in Liverpool docks. I remember it fondly.


Had no idea there is/was a Doctor Who shop in Liverpool - I live pretty close to the one in London (which definitely is still open - in fact I went past it today).
: Re: Spines
: moly 01 November, 2019, 06:51:13 PM
I guess I'll move that Ultraman stuff up top and lay them flat until I start running out of space.

I know that feeling - I bought shelving a few years back to house my collection, but subsequent purchases mean that every shelf now has horizontal books laid on the top of other rows.

I need more room!

I started off with a bookcase in the living room, then a big bookcase in the bedroom then a book case in the spare room, the better half has finally put her foot down
: Re: Spines
: IndigoPrime 01 November, 2019, 07:55:23 PM
Mrs IP put her foot down on a three grand quote for bespoke bookcases in our TV room. IKEA may beckon.
: Re: Spines
: Hawkmumbler 01 November, 2019, 08:00:01 PM
They have a bad rep, but a billy bookcase will never let you down. I've been buying a bunch of stuff from their Fjallbo (never met 'er) range. Cheap and cheerful for a firs time home owner*.


*Well about 75% eventually....
: Re: Spines
: IndigoPrime 01 November, 2019, 10:47:48 PM
We currently have four Billy cases, but they don’t fit the space well. Ivar is looking a likely option.
: Re: Spines
: TordelBack 02 November, 2019, 01:09:04 PM
It's relatively easy to cut down a Billy to fit an awkward space. I took 150mm off the middle one in a row of 5 to make them fit a full wall in our living room. You just chop all the cross-boards and shelves, cut the backing card and re-drill the fixing holes in the cross boards. Shelves just need two nicks taken out to seat the supports.
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 02 November, 2019, 02:18:01 PM
You know what grinds my gears... that IKEA doesn't allow for skirting boards at the back of their bookcases. (I know wrong thread!)
: Re: Spines
: Richard 02 November, 2019, 03:42:22 PM
Get Tordelback to adjust them for you.
: Re: Spines
: TordelBack 03 November, 2019, 12:17:27 PM
Get Tordelback to adjust them for you.

I had to do it to my own! But yeah, it is a pain. Simpler is to use the included wall brackets at their longest setting to stabilse and just leave a gap at the back.
: Re: Spines
: IndigoPrime 03 November, 2019, 04:49:50 PM
It's relatively easy to cut down a Billy to fit an awkward space.
Sadly, that isn’t the problem. Two Billy cases are short (wasting room height) and too narrow, but the space between then isn’t big enough for something useful like a shiny discs unit or something. By contrast, 2x Ivar fit almost exactly (but are a bit high for our absurdly low downstairs ceilings).

You know what grinds my gears... that IKEA doesn't allow for skirting boards at the back of their bookcases. (I know wrong thread!)
Our Billy cases have pre-made cuts for skirting boards. But they’re really old ones (c. 2006) and so I guess things changed with the new, shallower redesign.
: Re: Spines
: Proudhuff 05 November, 2019, 03:07:30 PM
You're right, however skirting board in Edinbra tenements are over a foot high  :-[