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Title: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 20 November, 2012, 02:23:29 pm
Doesn't quite fit the remit of the 'Last Movie Watched' thread, so here's a new one where you can bang on about the TV show that you're currently gripped by.

I just had to express my praise for Breaking Bad, which I've got bang up to date with over the last month or so, which has entailed many nights marathoning episodes into the wee small hours.

Finally watched the latest episode of series 5 last night, and what can I say but - Wow. It's almost cliche to say now, but what a piece of work this series is - just an incredible achievement. I'm consistently in awe of the writing, how the writers gradually build a house of cards, then just when you think it's all going to come crashing down, they somehow keep stacking it up to reach heights you never imagined. It feels as if it was all meticulously planned out years in advance (which I know it can't have been) and, unlike so many other great shows - it doesn't get bogged down by occasional poor story choices, or boring subplots, or inconsistent character scripting. Every episode is more absorbing than the last. While everyone will tell you "The Wire/Game of Thrones/Boardwalk Empire is great, but you have to watch twenty episodes of it before it gets good", Breaking Bad really get's it's hooks into you from the opening shot - in fact the pilot episode is like a self-contained movie.

So you have to forgive the occasionally far-fetched plot, and the regular deus ex-ish get-outs, but it's totally forgivable in a show as entertaining as this one. The episode involving a train is a damn sight more entertaining and exciting and beautifully realised than most similarly themed big budget movies. And what a cast...(!).

Can't recommend it highly enough!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: golledge100 on 20 November, 2012, 04:56:05 pm
I concur!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 20 November, 2012, 04:57:36 pm
I'm hearing good things about Justified, anyone recommend?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 20 November, 2012, 04:59:11 pm
I thoroughly enjoyed that series and he's the coolest cop ever!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JamesC on 20 November, 2012, 05:06:46 pm
It's been a while since I've really gotten into anything but I've had a hankering just lately to pick up the boxsets of The Equalizer.
I haven't seen it since I used to watch it on telly when I was about 10 but I really liked it and am curious to re-visit. Great theme tune too!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 20 November, 2012, 05:09:49 pm
Totally agree about 'Breaking Bad' Radiator, I absorbed Seasons 1-4 in the same number of weeks.
One of the best shows ever, ever made.
No sign of Season 5 on DVD yet though...where on earth did you get that from?  ;)

I'll throw 'Sons of Anarchy' into the box-set arena...I've gorged on Seasons 1-4, and would reckon its as addictive as Umpty Candy!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 20 November, 2012, 05:54:16 pm
Who needs dvd boxsets when you have back to back endless Mock The Weeks, Would I Lie To Yous and HIGNFYs on Dave? Mind you, they do shove the odd night of Gavin and Stacy or Red Dwarf to push me to Radio 4 Extra, so...

SBT
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: michael kennedy on 20 November, 2012, 06:20:26 pm
i know what you mean SBT but when theres a series that needs to be permantly on your shelf, you just gotta buy it.

heroes series one

luther series one and two
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 20 November, 2012, 07:04:13 pm
I avoided Caprica for two years because it seemed to embody everything bad about BSG, but got caught up in the last week or so and was pleasantly surprised to find that it actually does embody everything bad about BSG.  It's essentially a sci-fi series aimed at - or possibly just written by - 13 year old boys, about a sexy schoolgirl robot and virtual reality where kids have loads of sex and play Grand Theft Auto while discussing what is really reality, maaaan.  There's also some stuff about the Space Godfather and monothistic religion being totally heavy "because", and some 911 references.
It is horseshit of the worst kind, because it comes so damn near to being a good show but blows it in favor of wallowing in cliches beloved of dyed-in-the-wool sci-fi nerds, like using the word "frac" as an analogue of "fuck", yet everything else isn't an analogue, it's just the regular world transposed to another time and place, including sports stadiums, talk shows, digital broadcasting, the internet, mobile phones, licence plates on cars, the meaning of the word "Trojan" and so on, and of course, the whole series is also ultimately about a man making an anatomically correct sex robot of his dead 15 year old daughter.  As one does.
Also been watching The Flash, which is lowbrow hokum.  The production design pulls in one direction (the superhero costume and Shirley Walker's score are straight from the Burton-era Batman films) and the script pulls in another (most stories veer between camp, melodrama, and camp melodrama), but it's an impressive failure even if it doesn't know what audience it's aiming at.  None of it would stand up to a second viewing, I'm thinking.

Who needs dvd boxsets when you have back to back endless Mock The Weeks, Would I Lie To Yous and HIGNFYs on Dave?

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Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 20 November, 2012, 07:42:54 pm
Who needs dvd boxsets when you have back to back endless Mock The Weeks, Would I Lie To Yous and HIGNFYs on Dave?

Because those are comedy panel shows, which isn't really the same as getting involved in a good drama.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 20 November, 2012, 10:51:35 pm
Who needs dvd boxsets when you have back to back endless Mock The Weeks, Would I Lie To Yous and HIGNFYs on Dave? Mind you, they do shove the odd night of Gavin and Stacy or Red Dwarf to push me to Radio 4 Extra, so...

The comedy panel show format is the devil's work, but I still watch some of them depending who's on. There's nothing inherently more worthwhile about something just because it's a drama - Hollyoaks is (technically) a drama. I've just started Breaking Bad on netflix, and I'd agree that it's more immediately accessible than the holy trinity of The Sopranos/The Wire/Mad Men, but I'm not sure that won't work against it in the long run.

This Is England shits in the hat of everything else mentioned here.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Ancient Otter on 20 November, 2012, 11:04:31 pm
Got Spartacus: Vengence for my birthday recently and before that, Miami Vice Season 1....
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 21 November, 2012, 12:33:26 am
While everyone will tell you "The Wire/Game of Thrones/Boardwalk Empire is great, but you have to watch twenty episodes of it before it gets good",
You mentioned this about not getting into The Wire a few weeks ago. It got me thinking about it and I decided to watch the first episode again to see if I agreed. I didn't: as far as I'm concerned, if you weren't gripped by the end of that I wouldn't see any point in persevering. Incidentally, the first episode of Boardwalk Empire bored me rigid so I've never bothered with any more. Anyway, the following weekend I watched the rest of the first series and I'm now halfway through the third series again. Should be finished them all by the end of the month, although I might slow down if the fifth is as irritating as I remember it being.

This is just a bit of a sidetrack thought as my real current boxset of choice is Buffy. It's not much of an addiction though. The odd episode with dinner one evening during the week and maybe a couple on a Sunday afternoon if I'm hungover and feeling sorry for myself. I finished the third series a couple of weeks ago and am on a temporary hiatus until I can get hold of the fourth for under a fiver.

I've also heard good things about Justified but haven't gotten round to trying it. Started watching the new series of The Killing the other night but got bored twenty minutes into the first episode and switched it off.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 21 November, 2012, 07:48:33 am
Is Breaking Bad the one about a chemistry teacher who makes drugs?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 21 November, 2012, 08:05:28 am
This Is England was indeed fantastic. Looking forward to the new series.

Which reminds me: I really need to watch Misfits.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 21 November, 2012, 08:39:13 am
I agree, but was merely being facetious and questioning where anyone gets the time to watch this stuff. In between work, cooking, eating, reading comics and books and listening to the radio, ive not had time to even put on a dvd that wasnt expressly to keep the kids quiet, in months.

Oh, except last night, but im sworn to secrecy on that one!

I cant get into american drama, genre or otherwise- the last show i followed for any length of time was The X Files, and even that i gave up on after a few years. Frasier, maybe? I saw that through to the end.

There's still a Primeval series four episode ive not watched, despite my love for that show- and i know that when the new Canadian PRIMEVAL: NEW WORLD debuts on dvd i'll buy the set, watch two or three and then let it slide, however good or bad it is. Probably bad.

Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Sopranos, Spartacus, American Horror Story, Supernatural, Grimm, Smallville, Battlestar Galactica, Arrow... all have precisely zero interest for me, im sorry to say. (cont)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 21 November, 2012, 08:42:17 am
(cont) and the only drama-ish things i watch on a regular basis- and which i would possibly seek out if pushed- are YOUNG DRACULA and WOLFBLOOD on kids' tv. If only because when they're broadcast im still awake! And they're good, too.

Otherwise, it's all about the aforementioned DAVE repeats, Im a Celebrity and Embarassing Bodies in our house!

SBT
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 21 November, 2012, 08:45:57 am
So you don't watch TV series and don't have any to recommend, but still feel compelled to post (at great length) in this thread for some reason.

And you don't have TIME to watch them you say?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 21 November, 2012, 08:51:42 am
Ha! I texted that while on my way to work, on the bus. Or should i have been using the time to downstream my technoload of new episodes of Stargate?

SBT
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 21 November, 2012, 08:54:12 am
Is Breaking Bad the one about a chemistry teacher who makes drugs?

Yes. It really is superb, but some bits require a strong stomach (I know some people who gave up after the bit involving the bath as it was a bit to gruesome).

Personally, I found aspects of the first two series (hospital scenes) very upsetting and hard to watch, IMO that particular part of the plot works best as a catalyst to kick things off and needn't have been lingered on quite so much.

Oh, forgot to mention the music (both the original soundtrack and the licensed tracks) all of which is amazing.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: James Stacey on 21 November, 2012, 09:43:14 am
Or should i have been using the time to downstream my technoload of new episodes of Stargate?
If only they were still making Stargate, yes you should.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Charlie boy on 24 November, 2012, 03:44:28 am
Twin Peaks and Carnivale are two great series to watch. Sons of Anarchy is the only show going at the moment that has me buy the boxsets once they're available. I did like The Sopranos but don't think I'd ever watch it from start to finish again. I remember watching The Sopranos and getting a tad annoyed how in a later series, a brief argument shown in one episode of an earlier series would be mentioned and I'd be scratching my head trying to remember it. Sons of Anarchy doesn't have that problem, it keeps it all running along nicely. Oh, and The Munsters boxsets are more than entertaining.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 24 November, 2012, 07:20:39 am
The only bit of Sons of Anarchy I've seen is someone doing a ludicrously awful Irish accent. Must admit, it put me off a little.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 24 November, 2012, 09:19:32 am
The only bit of Sons of Anarchy I've seen is someone doing a ludicrously awful Irish accent. Must admit, it put me off a little.

Listen here fellah, don' youh daare pass up the feckin oppertuuunity to watch dis bleedin geniuos bit o telly just cause dey spend halfa season tree in oireland.

Dere are few bettar tings ye could watch rite now- gie it a shot from season wan.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: DaveGYNWA on 24 November, 2012, 09:45:58 am
The only bit of Sons of Anarchy I've seen is someone doing a ludicrously awful Irish accent. Must admit, it put me off a little.

It's put me off it totally - I hate hearing american versions of an Irish accent in shows/films. Case in point: Burn Notice....first episode. Fiona's accent. Switched off straight away. Left it for a year, and then someone mentioned that the accent was dropped from episode 2 onwards, so I watched again. And love the show (but I still cringe when the opening titles are playing...."Where am I?"..."Miami, to be sure to be sure"....I may have modified the words, but that's the effect it has in my head)

I just can't get into Sons of Anarchy because of it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: golledge100 on 24 November, 2012, 09:55:21 am
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No sign of Season 5 on DVD yet though...where on earth did you get that from? 



Season 5 of breaking bad is available on Netflix. This makes up for its 5.99 monthly subscription alone!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Steve Green on 24 November, 2012, 10:35:53 am
Although it's only half a season annoyingly.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 24 November, 2012, 10:54:05 am
Season 5 of breaking bad is available on Netflix. This makes up for its 5.99 monthly subscription alone!

I'm on the month free trial of netflix at the moment and I can only get seasons 1-3, does the choice widen with a real subscription? The defining appeal of box sets, for me, isn't what you watch so much as how you choose to watch it. I watched three or four episodes of The Wire a week, and the regularity of that made it an enjoyable part of my daily life; while I watched most of The Pacific in a single day, because I was snowed in during the Christmas holidays, and it felt much more slight and disjointed than Band of Brothers, which I watched weekly on TV.

Radiator's use of the word 'addiction' in this thread's title is interesting. I'd been quite happily watching an episode of Breaking Bad most days so far, then I had a couple of shit days at work and managed to power through most of season 2 on Friday. Watching Jessie and his girlfriend sink into heroin addiction made me aware that I was using the show in exactly way as he was using the junk- to get out of my own head and shut out the real world. I'm ridiculously straight edge - I don't even drink - but I've been using all kinds of fiction to get out of my tree for most of my life.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Steve Green on 24 November, 2012, 11:10:26 am
I didn't realise that the trial restricted what you can see. I expect it's to stop people just using the trial to watch a couple of seasons of something specific.

There is a difference between the US and UK netflix - although if you access through a VPN you can access the US Netflix content even if you registered outside the US.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 24 November, 2012, 11:22:43 am
There is a difference between the US and UK netflix - although if you access through a VPN you can access the US Netflix content even if you registered outside the US.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Charlie boy on 24 November, 2012, 12:36:43 pm
The only bit of Sons of Anarchy I've seen is someone doing a ludicrously awful Irish accent. Must admit, it put me off a little.
You should give it a go, mate. As has been pointed out- you've got a good 2 1/2 series before they go to Ireland and by then you'll be well in to it. Series 4 was then fantastic and I'm hoping 5 airs over here soon.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 28 November, 2012, 08:50:51 pm
I'm watching series 1 of Misfits.

So does it take a while to get good, or am I just not getting it?

Doesn't really seem anything special so far - script and acting is quite poor. Seems to have childish, outdated sweary/rude phrases in place of actual humour, a bit like The Inbetweeners.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pauljholden on 28 November, 2012, 09:13:10 pm
I'm currently watching community, available from netlfix via Canada (I use the proxy service unblock-us.

Hard to say what it's like, kind of friends meets spaced. Very warm with great central characters.

Also watching Better Off Ted, us comedy about a company that clearly supplies crazy scientist equipment to bond villains and/or dr doom (it's not really about that, but that's e background...)

(Oh, and the wife is glued to Once Upon a Time, a TV show that shares a LOT of DNA with the comic "fables" - the big difference is fable is about the original Grimm fairy tales, whereas Once Upon a Time the fairy tales are all Disney's version of the same (which makes it weirdly unwatchable for me...))
-pi

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 28 November, 2012, 09:28:52 pm
Also watching Better Off Ted, us comedy about a company that clearly supplies crazy scientist equipment to bond villains and/or dr doom (it's not really about that, but that's e background...)

Excellent show. Cancelled before its time. Portia di Rossi is fantastic as the crazy boss
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: michael kennedy on 29 November, 2012, 09:03:14 am
community is the freaking best thing iv'e seen in ages, had to get the boxsets after viva dropped it and it went to sony.

the first season was finding its feet but the two after that are some of the best bits of comedy iv'e seen from the US.

definitley worth a youtube search particularily anything with senor chang or paintball played by ken jeong

i spoilered it in case it ruins someones watching of said show.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Van Dom on 29 November, 2012, 09:36:37 am
I just ran through the first series of Revenge on Netflix. Really didnt expect to like it when I stuck on the pilot episode,  as its not my usual kind of thing (rich folk backstabbing each other in Dynasty-style shenanigans) and in fact I thought Id be switching it off after 5 minutes. But the lead, Emily Van Camp, really captivated me and kept me on board. She's awesome. And her character is great. Starts off as a simple "get revenge for past wrongs on baddie of the week " type thing before picking up steam and getting really complex and convoluted. The other lead, the dorky, socially awkward billionaire who goes around paying people to be his friend also turns out to be a really cool character. Good show, if you can get into it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 29 November, 2012, 09:56:07 am
Community is wonderful, but it can be hard getting people to give it a chance as the first half/third of series one isn't that great. My girlfriend didn't warm to it at all, but I know she'd love it if she just persevered for a few more episodes! I sung it's praises to a few friends, but they never got past the pilot. I think it all really clicks into place during the first Halloween episode, I'd be tempted to suggest people start there.

"I am Batman!" *applies lipbalm*
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 29 November, 2012, 10:04:37 am
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'm currently watching community, available from netlfix via Canada (I use the proxy service unblock-us.

Hard to say what it's like, kind of friends meets spaced. Very warm with great central characters.

Oh, and PJ - if you haven't already seen it (and if you can get it on Netflix) I'd highly recommend Modern Family, a tremendous, slick family sitcom. It doesn't quite scale the dizzying heights of some of Community's more ingenious writing, but unlike Community it manages the trick of being genuinely likable and funny while being incredibly broad and accessible.

Only the first two series though, it really took a dramatic nosedive as of series three...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pauljholden on 29 November, 2012, 10:33:48 am
Community is wonderful, but it can be hard getting people to give it a chance as the first half/third of series one isn't that great. My girlfriend didn't warm to it at all, but I know she'd love it if she just persevered for a few more episodes! I sung it's praises to a few friends, but they never got past the pilot. I think it all really clicks into place during the first Halloween episode, I'd be tempted to suggest people start there.

"I am Batman!" *applies lipbalm*

Weirdly, I started seeing bits of episodes from series 3, I think - caught them on telly after seeing recommendations (ironically, after Dan Harmon had been fired). But, as much as I enjoyed them, I couldn't get into them - everything was locked in place but I didn't quiet connect. BUT I loved the pilot and the first season (I started watching from ep1, season1, and I'm on ep3 season 2).

-pj
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: James Stacey on 29 November, 2012, 01:28:08 pm
Community is the best comedy thats been on TV in years. As such its been hit with the shitty stick till almost dead. There is still hope for six seasons and a movie.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 29 November, 2012, 01:46:52 pm
I thought season three was a bit patchy, but had some real standout episodes.

I can see it going down the shitter now that Harmon and Chase have left though. The fact they've truncated, then delayed season 4 is worrying.

Anyone notice that Pierce's adopted brother is played by Gustavo Fring form Breaking Bad?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pauljholden on 29 November, 2012, 02:30:31 pm
SPOILERS! (THough, he is also plays the genii/magic mirror in Once Upon a Time - he MAY be the US equivalent of Alan Dale... (who is also in Once Upon a Time, but not, afaik, Community))

-pj
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 29 November, 2012, 02:39:09 pm
Community is wonderful, but it can be hard getting people to give it a chance as the first half/third of series one isn't that great. My girlfriend didn't warm to it at all, but I know she'd love it if she just persevered for a few more episodes!
As a wise man once said:
The Wire. Gave up after the pilot. Yeah, so apparently it's AMAZING, you just need to get through the first series - after that you'll be hooked.

Strangely enough, I never seem to find myself with enough spare time to want to sit and watch hour after hour of boring television in the hope it eventually gets interesting.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 29 November, 2012, 02:54:54 pm
What's your point? I can understand why my friends haven't given it a chance - in fact I was a bit touch and go with it at first because it initially seems like it's going to be like Scrubs or something - that's exactly why I'd consider recommending people start midway through the series, or by recommending specific episodes.

Having said that, there is difference in that Community is a sitcom, which is by it's nature light, snappy and fast paced, each episode lasting only 22 minutes. It's a totally different kettle of fish to getting into a heavy drama series like The Wire or Boardwalk Empire, which demand your full attention, must be watched in chronolgical order and can require a bit of psyching up to get into the mood. Sometimes watching one of these big cult series feels like a nagging assignment you have got to do.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ChickenStu on 01 February, 2013, 04:17:13 pm
Coming off Breaking Bad. Wow.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 01 February, 2013, 04:23:21 pm
The Big Bang Theory series 5. Oh lawds!  :lol:
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 01 February, 2013, 04:47:36 pm
I don't know how anyone can tolerate The Big Bang Theory.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hoagy on 01 February, 2013, 04:51:20 pm
Criminal Minds s1-7 coming up and Extras.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 01 February, 2013, 04:56:03 pm
I don't know how anyone can tolerate The Big Bang Theory.
I dunno, guess it's a generation thing. Maybe. Everyone I know loves it, and being a bit of a Physics nut I tend to get the jokes.  :-\
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 01 February, 2013, 05:17:14 pm
I am very nearly done with 'Lexx'. Just about 6 episodes left.

I've been consistently entertained. This show is BRILLIANT fun! I'd been expecting the fourth season to be a stinker, having been warned by folks that it was 'weak' and 'as low as bad TV gets', but I've been pleasantly surprised.

This is actually a show I can see myself going back to and re-watching sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 01 February, 2013, 06:05:29 pm
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I dunno, guess it's a generation thing.

Think it's more of a taste thing - I'm probably younger than you are.

Something about it just rubs me the wrong way - the bits I've seen have been desperately unfunny.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 01 February, 2013, 07:22:13 pm
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I dunno, guess it's a generation thing.

Think it's more of a taste thing - I'm probably younger than you are.

Something about it just rubs me the wrong way - the bits I've seen have been desperately unfunny.
I'm 17 so that may be a bit of a stretch. :lol:
Fair does and all, not like I like you any less for it, there's many comedys I hate. ANYTHING with Ricky Gervais for a start. >:(
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pauljholden on 01 February, 2013, 08:22:37 pm
Currently watching the west wing, which I loved when I saw it first and burning through episodes is a lot of fun, but there's some interesting takeaways from it:
If you're not American then you're likely to be a very stereotypical representative of your country.
You see a lot of relationships blossom but precious few ever seem to go anywhere.
I get the sense that sorkin is less interested in the lives of his characters than he is in manipulating the audience and getting to his idealised world.

That said, I do love it.

Wondering whether is should start watching house of cards BEFORE I start watching house of cards or not (the new us netflix version)

-pj
(Ps I live netflix and unblock-us...)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mardroid on 02 February, 2013, 02:42:20 pm
Something about it just rubs me the wrong way - the bits I've seen have been desperately unfunny.

When I first saw it I found myself wincing inside, what with playing on the stereo-typical geek thing, etc. ("They make us look bad", I thought. Not that I'm much of a geek - I have geek interests, but probably lack the intellect.)

I've watched it since then.... and it just clicked. I find it a funny and warm programme. And I'll admit to getting a bit of a thrill seeing *that* prop in the time machine episode.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 26 February, 2013, 11:18:59 am
Through the magic of Lovefilm I've been soaking up Battlestar Galactica for the first time over the past couple of weeks. At the start I remember telling a mate that I wasn't really that into it and then realising I'd watched the whole mini-series and the first half dozen regular episodes in two or three days! After hearing so much about it, I think it took me a while to get past the standard tv scif-fi crappy acting and just let the story carry me forward. It was the episode where Starbuck interrogates the Cylon that finally hooked me. I really like that a large part of the series is the old "What is this thing called love, captain?" taken to extremes and allowed to develop in unexpected ways.

Anyway, finished the second series last night and really looking forward to seeing where it's going next.

PS So far, Boomer is the hottest Cylon.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 26 February, 2013, 11:34:16 am
My second anf third Shojo Kakumei Utena boxsets arrived on friday. God, this series is just so WIERD I freaking love it. Some of the philosophy is out there extreme (Incestues abuse, rape, psychological torture etc) but are handled with extreme levity and mixed in with some real WTF moments that never seem to detract from the strong mixture of surreal humour and black comedy. A very fun series but not for everyone. Also, Roses. Roses everywhere.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JamesC on 26 February, 2013, 11:47:50 am
Through the magic of Lovefilm I've been soaking up Battlestar Galactica for the first time over the past couple of weeks. At the start I remember telling a mate that I wasn't really that into it and then realising I'd watched the whole mini-series and the first half dozen regular episodes in two or three days! After hearing so much about it, I think it took me a while to get past the standard tv scif-fi crappy acting and just let the story carry me forward. It was the episode where Starbuck interrogates the Cylon that finally hooked me. I really like that a large part of the series is the old "What is this thing called love, captain?" taken to extremes and allowed to develop in unexpected ways.

Anyway, finished the second series last night and really looking forward to seeing where it's going next.

PS So far, Boomer is the hottest Cylon.

I've just started watching BSG on Lovefilm too and am also really enjoying it.
When it first came out i saw a couple of mid-season episodes and thought it just seemed like 'West Wing in space' with all the talking and politics - I was expecting action!
Watching it from the beginning though, I'm finding it really gripping.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 26 February, 2013, 12:14:28 pm
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I dunno, guess it's a generation thing.

Think it's more of a taste thing - I'm probably younger than you are.

Something about it just rubs me the wrong way - the bits I've seen have been desperately unfunny.

BBT is one of the most uneven shows I've watched, and since the wife is a big fan I've seen most of it by now.  When it gets it right, it can be extremely funny and quite sweet, when it gets it wrong it's unwatchable, becoming Two-and-a-Half-Men with Stephen Hawking impressions.  Its biggest hurdle is that the original lead character (Leonard) is very dull, and its breakout discovery (Sheldon) can completely dominate it to the point of boring repetition, despite Jim Parsons' cracking performance.  It works best when it works as an ensemble, with everyone contributing a little bit of their well-honed schtick, rather than when it focuses on one character and the narrowness of the characterisation becomes apparent.  I think they've cottoned on to this as the seasons march on, and the large supporting cast has become the highlight for me, Leonard's and Sheldon's mothers in particular being a hoot.

What has struck me as the thing has gone on is there is a refreshing moral line played out over the long term: unpleasant throwaway gags early on come back to haunt the characters in interesting ways. 

It's also hard for me to see it as painting a negative nerd stereotype (to a greater degree than that required of the themed paticipants of any sit-com) when most of the characters have a terrific social life, exciting careers and a string of gorgeous partners. 

One thing that I do not understand: how do they get away with the unbelievably racist depiction of India and Indians in the show? 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JamesC on 26 February, 2013, 12:34:19 pm
I've never seen an episode of BBT that I didn't find funny, although some more than others. It suffered when the actress that plays Penny broke her arm and wasn't in a few episodes - she's a great character and is really the glue that holds everything together.
I find it a very warm programme it very really gets a laugh out of 'bullying' humour (in stark contrast to Ricky Gervais).
As for the 'racist' depiction of India - well cultural stereotyping doesn't always equal racism. Loads of things are stereotyped in BBT - for example Jewish people and the Bible belt.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 26 February, 2013, 02:12:13 pm
As for the 'racist' depiction of India - well cultural stereotyping doesn't always equal racism. Loads of things are stereotyped in BBT - for example Jewish people and the Bible belt.

Didn't mean to drag the thread in the direction of a discussion of racism, but there is a difference between poking fun at powerful cultural groupings within the host nation, and a sole foreign character whose home country and its cultures are presented as universally laughable. Not that it isn't often funny, and indeed lampshaded by Raj himself, but it's frequently at an Alf Garnett level, except that there's no indication that the perpetrators are anything other than witty and knowledgeable. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 26 February, 2013, 03:57:19 pm
It's also hard for me to see it as painting a negative nerd stereotype (to a greater degree than that required of the themed paticipants of any sit-com)

My take on this criticism about BBT has always been this: they aren't awful people because they're nerds, they're awful people because they are in a Chuck Lorre sitcom.  You would have to take a pretty narrow reading of it to come away thinking it was anti-nerd, as pretty much anyone in any walk of life who gets screen time comes off pretty badly.
The best example for me is Penny's ex-jock, ex-bully boyfriend, whose low intelligence is mocked by the main characters in a pretty merciless and arseholeish way as the "nerds" close ranks on him - he's moved on from the idiot high school cliche he was and even reaches out to share his love of comic books with the characters, trying to explain why Archie comics have moved on from what they were only to be rebuffed by the cast and ridiculed as they continue to thumb through their DC back issues - it's a surprisingly layered moment of insight to the characters and the show itself that highlights that a lot of it's crowd-pleasing moments come from the kind of thoughtless cruelty that is later used as joke fodder, but could equally be construed as karmic balance, with someone's downfall coming not because the world is an inherently cruel place but because these people deserve it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: sheldipez on 26 February, 2013, 04:47:41 pm
Through the magic of Lovefilm I've been soaking up Battlestar Galactica for the first time over the past couple of weeks. At the start I remember telling a mate that I wasn't really that into it and then realising I'd watched the whole mini-series and the first half dozen regular episodes in two or three days! After hearing so much about it, I think it took me a while to get past the standard tv scif-fi crappy acting and just let the story carry me forward. It was the episode where Starbuck interrogates the Cylon that finally hooked me. I really like that a large part of the series is the old "What is this thing called love, captain?" taken to extremes and allowed to develop in unexpected ways.

Anyway, finished the second series last night and really looking forward to seeing where it's going next.

PS So far, Boomer is the hottest Cylon.

The wife and I are about to finish up season 2 of Battlestar, I love the show when it focuses on the space politics and military friction but can't get away with a lot of the [OTT] relationship centred episodes, I mean Starbuck knew that freedom fighter bloke on Caprica for all of five minutes yet the show goes on like they were together for a long time, now I don't know if it's me but I need more than a day or two to get that attached to someone (my wife thought the same). Lee Adama seems to fall in love with someone else every half dozen episodes that I fully expect him to be bunked up with the President by series finale. But besides that one aspect the writing has been more consistantly great than any other TV show I care to think of and the SFX are so good that it ages every other sci-fi show a great deal!

Big Bang Theory is the worst sitcom I've ever seen, Coach  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coach_%28TV_series%29)being the second worst.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 26 February, 2013, 04:53:44 pm
You have clearly never seen Rob or Hank.

I envy you.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 26 February, 2013, 05:05:35 pm
The wife and I are about to finish up season 2 of Battlestar, I love the show when it focuses on the space politics and military friction but can't get away with a lot of the [OTT] relationship centred episodes, I mean Starbuck knew that freedom fighter bloke on Caprica for all of five minutes yet the show goes on like they were together for a long time, now I don't know if it's me but I need more than a day or two to get that attached to someone (my wife thought the same).

You know, it's SO GREAT to see some deserved criticism of the new BSG.

I sat through the whole thing for the first tiem a few months back, and thought it was great. I really, REALLY had to be persuaded, because I have a deep-seated loathing of the old series. But the lure of that same general premise writ large and treated with some intelligent writing was what finally won me over.

But, I gotta say, there are some points in that series where the writing is REALLY not very good, and some aspects of it come off as being poorly handled, in my opinion. Liek I say, I still think it's a great show, but it isn't perfect by any means.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 26 February, 2013, 05:06:56 pm
...someone's downfall coming not because the world is an inherently cruel place but because these people deserve it.

I agree, and I do think that's a lot of the show's appeal.  Pretty much all of the characters are jerks pretending to be nice people, and to give the writers credit their tribulations are usually a direct response to their own arseholery, and they seldom get away with the kind of vileness that Friends folk exhibited for a decade seemingly without consequence.  When the characters do manage to behave with decency, they tend to be rewarded.  It's a simple formula, but pleasant enough to watch played out over the long term.

I did enjoy the one where Leonard's old school bully showed up, and appeared to repent and be forgiven, only to wake up in the morning and continue on his shitty way
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JamesC on 26 February, 2013, 05:11:34 pm
...someone's downfall coming not because the world is an inherently cruel place but because these people deserve it.

I agree, and I do think that's a lot of the show's appeal.  Pretty much all of the characters are jerks pretending to be nice people,

But I don't think they're pretending I think they're just damaged.
Penny is afraid of commitment so she fucks Leonard around a bit. She's not pretending to be nice, she's just a bit crap.
Same with Wolowitz - he's so desperate to be a stud, not because he loves women so much but because he needs to be validated as a man.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 26 February, 2013, 05:19:14 pm
But I don't think they're pretending I think they're just damaged.

While I suspect we may be over-analysing this just a smidgeon, I'm not sure being damaged actually excludes jerkishness and pretense. It may well be an underlying cause (although find me someone who isn't damaged in some way), but (for example) I'm not sure Leonard's having a psychopathic mother is actually an excuse for his self-centered manipulations.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 26 February, 2013, 06:22:54 pm
While I suspect we may be over-analysing this just a smidgeon

You ought to check out Chuck Lorre's other big sitcom Two and a Half Men and then try and say there is no subtext whatsoever to the character played by Charlie Sheen replacement Ashton Kutcher: big-knobbed, so handsome he turns straight men gay, billionaire, smarter than everyone in the room, women can't love him because he's too rich and handsome, and so on.  There's been nearly two seasons of it now, and I'm still waiting for this to pay off as something other than a big name star with a veto on the final script.  I can understand wanting to keep his teen girl/gay men fanbase happy, but it would be nice to see him display some depth.

Watched Our Friends In The North for the first time, and while a pleasingly political take on the usual BBC social drama, I'm not sure if I agree with some of the thematic inferences such as the equivalence drawn between the collapse of the power of the working-class unions and the rise of yob culture, or the bafflingly apolitical finale that offers neither comment on the time nor context for events, looking as it does like any other episode and presenting no resolution or insight to this stage of the characters' lives.  It's oddly stagey in places, too, and heavily reliant upon the viewer taking the idea of Tories as bad people at face value - and while I have no problem with anything that takes a pop at the Tories, I'm not sure I want my political views mirrored back at me, I want them challenged.  There's a storyline where common-as-muck Tosker gets ideas above himself and becomes a musician, a businessman, a freemason, a rich landowner and so on, but there's no real attempt to explore this example of someone taking advantage of a free market as an insight to how the Conservatives appropriated the working class vote, or even to explore the role of red top journalism beyond that it was a hotbed of sneering scum, which again is not something I have bother believing and is exactly why something which presents this point of view should go out of its way to challenge or explore it as the prevailing notion.
It's certainly a very good show and well made and performed - the odd accent aside - but also a frustrating series in not really separating itself as a narrative from the politics of its characters.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 26 February, 2013, 06:34:15 pm
I love [BSG]... but can't get away with a lot of the [OTT] relationship centred episodes, I mean Starbuck knew that freedom fighter bloke on Caprica for all of five minutes yet the show goes on like they were together for a long time, now I don't know if it's me but I need more than a day or two to get that attached to someone (my wife thought the same). Lee Adama seems to fall in love with someone else every half dozen episodes that I fully expect him to be bunked up with the President by series finale.

That can be readily explained in the context of the show if you're so inclined - these people are suffering PTSD, after all. You may take a long time to form attachments, but if 99% of mankind was wiped out at a stroke tomorrow and you'd survived by the skin of your teeth, managing to throw your lot in with the only other survivors of the holocaust; and the killers of humanity were relentlessly pursuing your band of survivors intending to finish the job, and so you knew that literally any day might be your last; would you not throw caution to the wind and jump into any chance of a relationshop going? I know I would.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 26 February, 2013, 06:40:47 pm
But then why abandon established relationships as Starbuck does so often?  I long ago decided that the intent was to make the character unlikable by any means necessary, even if it made no sense.

For me, the remake loses points for not having a creepy monkey-dog thing, and an ending that just makes you think "Ron Moore should have put off writing that until he worked out his issues with his mates on Star Trek: Voyager."
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: sheldipez on 26 February, 2013, 06:42:23 pm
I love [BSG]... but can't get away with a lot of the [OTT] relationship centred episodes, I mean Starbuck knew that freedom fighter bloke on Caprica for all of five minutes yet the show goes on like they were together for a long time, now I don't know if it's me but I need more than a day or two to get that attached to someone (my wife thought the same). Lee Adama seems to fall in love with someone else every half dozen episodes that I fully expect him to be bunked up with the President by series finale.

That can be readily explained in the context of the show if you're so inclined - these people are suffering PTSD, after all. You may take a long time to form attachments, but if 99% of mankind was wiped out at a stroke tomorrow and you'd survived by the skin of your teeth, managing to throw your lot in with the only other survivors of the holocaust; and the killers of humanity were relentlessly pursuing your band of survivors intending to finish the job, and so you knew that literally any day might be your last; would you not throw caution to the wind and jump into any chance of a relationshop going? I know I would.

Nope, after realising that the cylons now looked like humans I wouldn't trust anyone , the early episodes had a real "The Thing" vibe with emphasis on the doctor doing testing through hundreds of sample vials, that plot line has since been forgotton with neither Adama or the President ever mentioning how that was going and every body seems to have pretty much reverted to screwing each other.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 27 February, 2013, 12:31:36 am
But then why abandon established relationships as Starbuck does so often?  I long ago decided that the intent was to make the character unlikable by any means necessary, even if it made no sense.
NB Probably unnecessary spoiler tags as at least two other people are currently watching the series.

Maybe just to show that she's as unstable and unreliable emotionally as she is assured and clinical in combat? The idea of someone brilliant in their specialist field but intent on driving people away is hardly novel. Then there's the historical abuse which was briefly alluded to but which hasn't yet been revisited. I have a theory about Starbuck's new-found need for love anyway. One which I could easily validate through Google or which anyone who's seen the whole thing could easily prove or disprove but I'm happy to wait and see.

Viewers of BSG through Lovefilm should be aware that the final episode of the second series appears to be a heavily edited version of the original, which was an extended finale: based on the length quoted on iTunes there's about 25 minutes missing.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 27 February, 2013, 12:43:15 am
Viewers of BSG through Lovefilm should be aware that the final episode of the second series appears to be a heavily edited version of the original, which was an extended finale: based on the length quoted on iTunes there's about 25 minutes missing.
In fact: http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Lay_Down_Your_Burdens,_Part_II

"According to Ron Moore's podcast, although the SciFi Channel was willing to air this episode as a 90-minute special, there also exists an 60-minute version for international distribution. In some markets outside of the United States, viewers might only see the 1 hour version of the episode, which Moore regards as "almost incomprehensible". Many plot threads, such as the entire Cally/Tyrol subplot, were completely removed for the one hour version. However, it appears that most non-American television stations also show the full version."
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 27 February, 2013, 01:12:46 pm
Not sure which version I'll have on my DVD box sets but if it's the loner one, I'm happy to let you borrow it.


Just finished DOLLHOUSE which was very good and had the added benefit of only running to 25 or so episodes.  (It gets too much like doing homework when you know you have 100 episodes of something to watch before getting to the finale).

Dushku is a pleasantly hot but suprisingly blank lead - even when she's not meant to be blank. I put this down to the hotness part of her brain overpowering the acting part.  And the improbably named Tamhoh Penniket is nothing short of abysmal throughout - almost unwatcheable. The supporting cast are equally cute and clunky. But by golly it's dense stuff with enjoyable individual epiosdes, a couple of great season arcs and the sort of smart savvy writing you expect from a Joss Whedon production.

The penultimate and last episode each looked like a season squashed down to one hour (and within that there are sub plots that looked like they might also have spawned half a dozen episodes).  I know this was probably as a result of it being cancelled (and thank goodness they tied up most of the loose ends) but I'd have been tempted to just rewrite the last 5 episodes entirely rather than condensing a seven year plan.



Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dr Feeley Good on 27 February, 2013, 01:23:45 pm
I've only recently started watching the shield, just started the second series. ..I know there were seven series and I was wondering if it runs out of steam !! Really enjoying it at the moment
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 27 February, 2013, 03:00:27 pm
It slows down a bit around the robbery thing, but stick with it and there's some cracking stuff in the latter seasons, particularly Glenn Close and Forest Whittaker's turns as antagonists to the team - the latter turning in such a mad performance that his character was transplanted whole into an episode of Family Guy.

Been watching CSI seasons steadily for the last couple of years as a fallback distraction for when I'm working on something and don't have any current tv to bung on, and while I cannot bring myself to say it is good, it is still well-made nonsense that's got its schtick down pat pretty early to the point that despite being conservative in its outlook it still manages to take the odd pop at itself and play around with its own formulaic plots now and then, a particular high point being Fur And Loathing (in Las Vegas), a murder mystery based within the furry community.  Seeing as I watch them in order, I eventually had to start watching the spin-off CSI: Miami, which despite recently being the first of the franchises to be cancelled is arguably the best of the three because it hinges entirely on a committed central performance from David Caruso as a hysterically deadpan Mary Sue version of the gruff tv cop that makes the show largely bulletproof in a way LV and NY aren't in their playing things super-straight (though both have recently introduced their own Mary Sue leads in Sela Ward and Ted Danson).  The earliest episodes (especially the originating backdoor pilot) give Caruso some range and elbow room and he's clearly aiming for nuance and potential backstory, but about a dozen episodes in and he's twigged that he needs to go full-on Judge Dredd with the one-liners, silly voice and sunglasses to match what surrounds him, particularly Khandie Alexander's utterly dreadful turn as the show's regular coroner (I saw Treme before I saw CSI: Miami so her acting in the latter was a genuine shock).  All the same, it's a bit of a surprise that this wooden performance that everyone's been taking the piss out of for years has actually been cannily-calculated artifice.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 27 February, 2013, 03:10:40 pm
I have a theory about Starbuck's new-found need for love anyway. One which I could easily validate through Google or which anyone who's seen the whole thing could easily prove or disprove but I'm happy to wait and see.

Without spoiling things, there remained several unanswered questions about Starbuck, which I found quite frustrating. However, I am in the minority in that I actually liked the conclusion to BSG!

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 04 March, 2013, 12:34:26 pm
Finally made a start on Mad Men. It's pretty good stuff, but I can't quite shake the feeling that its a bit pleased with itself and style over substance - or 'period (drama) porn'. A bit too much fetishising of the (admittedly sumptuous) set dressing, and indulging in "isn't the past CRAZY? Things were DIFFERENT then!" nods to the audience, a bit too little plot.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 06 March, 2013, 11:45:53 am
Episode 27 of Shojo Kakumei Utena last night...did one of the main characters just give birth to King Ghidorah? :lol:
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 06 March, 2013, 12:13:25 pm
Viewers of BSG through Lovefilm should be aware that the final episode of the second series appears to be a heavily edited version of the original extended finale.
Not sure which version I'll have on my DVD box sets but if it's the loner one, I'm happy to let you borrow it.
Thanks Tips. I managed to source an alternative copy and was fairly taken aback at the number of important plot beats cut out of the first version I saw.

Watched the first four episodes of the third series last night. Other than an excess of manly hugging I reckon this is the best yet.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 06 March, 2013, 05:46:32 pm
Finally made a start on Mad Men. It's pretty good stuff, but I can't quite shake the feeling that its a bit pleased with itself and style over substance - or 'period (drama) porn'. A bit too much fetishising of the (admittedly sumptuous) set dressing, and indulging in "isn't the past CRAZY? Things were DIFFERENT then!" nods to the audience, a bit too little plot.

Plot isn't really Mad Men's thing; folk get married and divorced and have babies, but the show's more interested in psychological realism than any of that. The period setting's an interesting hook to hold the viewers' interest while the show and the characters are bedding in, but I sometimes wonder why they bothered, since the motivations and neuroses of the characters are so universal and timeless.

I think that it might be easier for the audience to accept the way characters' actions are constrained by their personal relationships and personal histories if there's also the additional distance provided by the context of a time with different social mores - nobody likes to be told that they're a prisoner of the limitations imposed upon them by their friends, their intimate relationships, and by the fears, wants and needs of their five year old selves.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 06 March, 2013, 05:59:27 pm
I actually find it quite refreshing that the most dramatic thing to happen eleven eps in is that one character had a heart attack, as most dramas - especially US series which have to fill dozens of episodes a season - usually fairly quickly descend into increasingly cliched and unrealistic narrative twists, such as the 'character A is pregnant, but doesn't know if the father is character B or C' - an especially lazy plot device that pretty much every series or sitcom eventually wheels out as soon as they start to run out of ideas and is a particular pet hate of mine!

Enjoying it very much, but I do wonder how it will sustain itself for four more seasons...

My Game of Thrones Season 2 Blu Rays arrived the other day, so planning a complete marathon of all episodes to date ahead of the Season 3 premiere later this month. Hopefully I'll like s2 a bit more this time round as i was a bit disappointed by it when it originally ran last year.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Judge Olde on 10 March, 2013, 12:40:02 pm
My Game of Thrones Season 2 Blu Rays arrived the other day, so planning a complete marathon of all episodes to date ahead of the Season 3 premiere later this month. Hopefully I'll like s2 a bit more this time round as i was a bit disappointed by it when it originally ran last year.

I felt the same way, gave me the nudge I needed to start reading the books.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 10 March, 2013, 02:11:01 pm
I think I was disappointed precisely because I was reading the book as I was watching the series, so I noticed every single change they had made, often for the worse.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 10 March, 2013, 08:47:14 pm
Whitechapel, which I sought out on the assumption it was the prequel series to Ripper Street as I recalled hearing about it years ago, but it's actually a modern-day riff on the Jack the Ripper murders rather than a period drama, and appeared on another channel entirely.  It is a dreadful, braindead offering of a show where characters actually come right out and state their motivations in words like they've started reading the scene descriptions in the script rather than say the awful, awful words, and to be honest I can't blame them.  I won't lie, as utterly awful as this was, I am genuinely intrigued by the plot for the sequel series which sounds identical to an episode of Lois And Clark: The New Adventures Of Superman, but with clones of the Krays on the rampage rather than a clone of Al Capone, and another in the plus column is no Teri Hatcher.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 10 March, 2013, 10:33:06 pm
Finally started on HOMELAND.  It was good but it "ain't all that". Maybe there was too much hype or I've seen too much in the adverts.  I'll give it another couple of episodes and hope it perks up.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 10 March, 2013, 11:56:55 pm
Just finished season one of Breaking Bad. I am assured by all that it gets better than this, but I sure as hell cannot see how!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 March, 2013, 12:07:03 am
Just finished season one of Breaking Bad. I am assured by all that it gets better than this, but I sure as hell cannot see how!


Heh, heh.


Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 11 March, 2013, 08:15:40 am
Still not seen Breaking Bad... :-[
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 11 March, 2013, 10:17:26 am
Still not seen Breaking Bad... :-[

Just watch it. Seriously.

I've been hassling a friend to do the same - he always says "Oh, I don't have the time". No. Once you've seen the first episode, you will make time!  :D
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 13 March, 2013, 01:08:38 pm
Just wrapped up my Utena marathon with the feature film, which although doesn't quite reach the godly levels of great character writing and whittey scripting teamed with symbolism aplenty as seen in the series, was still fun. I was so impressed with Nozomi's boxsets also that i checked there site....and noticed they had released the entire run of The Dirty Pair. I'll be buying these soon for sure.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 13 March, 2013, 01:18:50 pm
Still not seen Breaking Bad... :-[

You're wasting your life, man.  What if you got hit by a bus tomorrow?  It would all have been for nothing.

Nearly at the end of Season 3 now, finding some episodes genuinely unbearable in their tension.  Actually woke my daughter up the other night shouting "Walt for feck's sake shut up!" at the telly (the fly episode).
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 13 March, 2013, 01:21:31 pm
Still not seen Breaking Bad... :-[

Just watch it. Seriously.

I've been hassling a friend to do the same - he always says "Oh, I don't have the time". No. Once you've seen the first episode, you will make time!  :D

I literally don't know anyone that hasnt seen it by now (including my parents for Gruds sake).
Was late for a meeting 2 weeks ago...my boss texted me 'Pollos'!  :D
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 13 March, 2013, 01:37:57 pm
Was late for a meeting 2 weeks ago...my boss texted me 'Pollos'!  :D

 :lol:
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Satanist on 13 March, 2013, 10:11:42 pm
With BB I just couldnt get into it. I watched the first ep and didnt really know what it was. Was it a drama, a comedy or both? Over two years I tried and on the 3rd attempt got passed the first ep and then, well, I watched the lot over 2 months  :lol:
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 18 March, 2013, 06:39:26 pm
Firefly on Lovefilm. Sneaking it into my lunchtimes when I'm working from home. 

which is much more fun than doing this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co_DNpTMKXk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co_DNpTMKXk)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 19 March, 2013, 12:28:25 am
End of Mad Men season 2 was awesome, but what's the deal with season 3? Why does it look so weird/cheap all of a sudden? Seem to be getting that horrible 'soap opera effect'/sped up/harsh video look to the visuals...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ChickenStu on 19 March, 2013, 12:59:53 am
I've been hassling a friend to do the same - he always says "Oh, I don't have the time". No. Once you've seen the first episode, you will make time!  :D

LOL!!! I've got a mate of mine addicted to it now! I lent him my set and said "watch this" and he can't get enough! Great show.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 21 March, 2013, 11:58:43 pm
I've been watching season 1 of HBO's 'Girls'. I really wasn't convinced at first, but a few eps in it has won me round somewhat.

There's a smugness about it that is a bit grating, and a willingness to allow the characters to be downright unlikable which is either bold or foolish, I can't quite decide. The tone also sometimes feels uneven, flitting between relatively naturalistic and wildly ott cringe comedy situations. But yeah, overall a thumbs up.

You lot would probably hate it, though.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 23 March, 2013, 11:43:14 pm
Finally been catching up on Breaking Bad and while it's a great show, I can't really get a handle on Walt, Skylar is a bitch, and I want to clear a day from my schedule and spend it kicking Jesse in the throat.  Some of the plot turns seem a bit arbitrary (like Walt sacking his assistant to placate Jesse) compared to the meticulous planning evidenced elsewhere, but it hasn't quite derailed the show for me.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mardroid on 24 March, 2013, 03:39:21 am
I've been gradually working my way though The Clone wars Blu-Ray set.

I was reticent about getting it on Blu-Ray as I figured one wouldn't tell the difference with animation as you would with live action. However on seeing the first three series box set going (relatively) cheap at CEX a couple of months back I thought, why not? Turns out it really does look better!

Anyway, enjoyable all round, I'd say. I just started Series 2 and so far it's been great. (Clunky expositiony dialogue aside.) Surprisingly dark in places considering it was supposedly aimed, at least partly, at the kiddies. Not that I'm complaining. And Aayla Secura! Where'd you put your Jedi robe you saucy minx?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: moly on 24 March, 2013, 07:46:35 am
Just watch game of thrones series 1 really good with some great surprises now for series 2
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Post by: Frank on 24 March, 2013, 10:22:07 am
Finally been catching up on Breaking Bad and while it's a great show, I can't really get a handle on Walt ... Some of the plot turns seem a bit arbitrary ... but it hasn't quite derailed the show for me.

Walt was always like that. Even when he was cleaning armadillo crap from alloy wheels he was doing whatever he had to do to make money. His being a teacher helped me understand that Walt wasn't magically transformed into a cunt - even the good ones have something nasty in reserve and a lot of built-up resentment. The whole reason he was in that situation was because he fucked a friend and someone he loved, and that's what I took away from the character; the dedicated teacher who dotes on his disabled kid is also a nasty piece of work, all at the same time, and there's no contradiction between being one and the other - other than the way everyone is encouraged to perceive them.

I'm with you on the plot twists, which put eighties US TV soaps to shame; you just have to let it slide.

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Post by: Professor Bear on 26 March, 2013, 12:10:29 am
If Wikipedia is to be trusted - and I see no reason it isn't - then season 3 was actually made up on the fly while 1 and 2 were planned out from the start, which would explain why even I picked up on the sudden random twists when my bread and butter is shite dramas where someone goes OMG at who's been sleeping with who this week.  Swear to God, if you plonk me down in front of an episode of Dallas and an episode of Suits, I can actually tell you which is which as if they don't just blur together.

Kudos to Bryan Cranston, though, I never thought he had that kind of glowering charisma in him from his stumblebum act in Malcolm in the Middle, and it's always good to see some of the old-school anime VO artists make good.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 27 March, 2013, 07:22:09 pm
Quote
Skylar is a bitch

In what way? Never really understood why so many people hate her - perhaps because she's always the one threatening to spoil all the 'fun'?

She struck me as a very likable, strong character, and vital to the show.
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Post by: Professor Bear on 27 March, 2013, 07:57:32 pm
I could point to smoking while pregnant just to get back at her husband for imagined slights, or shagging her boss regardless of what this would do to her family, but in context her initial demands for full disclosure from Walt make no sense unless you accept that she is an arsehole.  The viewer as an omniscient observer knows Walt is up top no good, but all Skylar knows within the story is that he wants some space after being diagnosed with a terminal illness.  Especially in the fourth season where the carwash subplot comes in and she is not as estranged from Walt so you can view her actions without the "she wants to spoil the fun" angle as a factor, every contribution she makes to this plot paints her as obsessively controlling and her common response to failing to win arguments or get her way is to go off in a huff.
Ultimately, she works to pull her family apart for no discernible reason other than spite, while murderous, poisonous Walt's horrible actions are to keep his family together even if he's no longer a part of it.  Walt thus elicits sympathy despite what he does, Skylar not so much.
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Post by: I, Cosh on 27 March, 2013, 08:00:57 pm
All of that sounds sort of exactly like the way some people might react in real life.
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Post by: shaolin_monkey on 28 March, 2013, 12:18:46 pm
I started watching the back catalogue of Arrested Development last night.  I gave up after four episodes.  It just was not funny, and every single one of the characters was incredibly irritating.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 28 March, 2013, 12:26:50 pm
I started watching the back catalogue of Arrested Development last night.  I gave up after four episodes.  It just was not funny, and every single one of the characters was incredibly irritating.

You are dead to me.
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Post by: Link Prime on 28 March, 2013, 12:37:10 pm
I started watching the back catalogue of Arrested Development last night.  I gave up after four episodes.  It just was not funny, and every single one of the characters was incredibly irritating.

(Joe Mantegna voice) "You're not a pet, and you're not a friend. You're nothing to me."
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Post by: Professor Bear on 28 March, 2013, 01:12:24 pm
I love Arrested Development, but humor is a subjective experience so it's always best to adopt a live and let live approach to discussions of it lest you turn into the equivalent of one of those moronic "female comedians are not funny" cunts.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 28 March, 2013, 01:18:23 pm
Arrested Development is one of those shows - like Community - where there are certain lines of dialogue or recurring gags that are so intricately crafted and clever that it makes my head spin.

I don't know how anyone could find the legend that is Gob Bluth unlikable.
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Post by: shaolin_monkey on 28 March, 2013, 01:20:44 pm
So you think I should persevere with it?
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Post by: radiator on 28 March, 2013, 02:52:16 pm
To be honest if the first four eps didn't grab you it's probably just not for you - I was hooked from the pilot.

Out of interest, what other comedy series do you like?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 28 March, 2013, 03:00:09 pm
Oh, the usual - Red Dwarf, IT Crowd, Father Ted, That kind of stuff.  I can't think of many US comedies I enjoy, except maybe My Name is Earl, but I find that hit and miss.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 29 March, 2013, 11:57:28 pm
Oh, the usual - Red Dwarf, IT Crowd, Father Ted, That kind of stuff.  I can't think of many US comedies I enjoy, except maybe My Name is Earl, but I find that hit and miss.

Nothing is funnier than US series Curb Your Enthusiasm IMO, but I completely agree with Prof a few posts back; comedy is completely subjective.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Daveycandlish on 30 March, 2013, 07:23:00 am
So you think I should persevere with it?
Nah, you've given it a good go - if you don't like it after four episodes you are right to give up.
I watched Plebs the other night and lasted ten minutes before I turned it off - that was enough for me!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ChickenStu on 03 April, 2013, 06:45:13 pm
I don't know why, but after rewatching the original V and the inferior (but not terrible) V: The Final Battle I'm currently halfway through the 19 episode "original series" that came after those in 1985.

All I can say is "OH. FUCKING. DEAR".

I'll stick with it till the end out of sheer bloody mindedness - but there's not even a parallel dimension where this shit is good...  :(
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 03 April, 2013, 06:57:14 pm
So you think I should persevere with it?
Nah, you've given it a good go - if you don't like it after four episodes you are right to give up.


Hmm, I'm actually finding it quite addictive.  I'm up to episode 12 now.

I still don't like it though!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 03 April, 2013, 07:05:38 pm
Why are you watching it if you don't like it?
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Post by: Hawkmumbler on 03 April, 2013, 07:09:28 pm
Why are you watching it if you don't like it?
Masochism?
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Post by: Professor Bear on 03 April, 2013, 08:44:32 pm
Only quitters stop watching something because it is terrible.  I remember I gave Clone Wars at least a full season after it became unbearable before I actually stopped watching it - I'm a trooper, me.

Anyway, because it is vaguely relevant to the conversation about watching something even if you think it's terrible, I started watching Space Precinct halfway through an episode of Walking Dead - specifically that episode where Egg and a pirate were going ARR at each other in a room - and I just finished watching the entirety of SP and while it is not good, the scale of the modelwork gives it a lot of charm that a similar show made today with CGI wouldn't have, and the really terrible dialog and acting works remarkably well if read as deliberate parody so I am going to go ahead and say without irony or sarcasm that although Ted Shackelford is no Bruce Boxleitner, Space Precinct is better than Babylon 5.  The effects work on the creatures is occasionally impressive and throws up how reliant US sci-fi is on cgi that something like SP couldn't be made too readily these days as a lot of on-set SFX rather than post-production work would be required, which is a shame as there's a real weight and depth to some of the shots that you just can't get with CGI, and the overhead views of the city at night as viewed through the clouds is still particularly impressive and ambitious even today.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 03 April, 2013, 10:06:41 pm
Why are you watching it if you don't like it?
Masochism?

I think I'm just loathe to admit its growing on me. I have chuckled quietly on a couple of occasions.
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Post by: Hawkmumbler on 03 April, 2013, 10:29:04 pm
Why are you watching it if you don't like it?
Masochism?

I think I'm just loathe to admit its growing on me. I have chuckled quietly on a couple of occasions.
I can get you some cream for that. ;)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 05 April, 2013, 02:33:47 pm
15 new episodes of Arrested Development to be released simultaneously on Netflix on 26 May! woohoo!

http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/arrested-development-return-date-confirmed-by-net/305438 (http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/arrested-development-return-date-confirmed-by-net/305438)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Spikes on 08 April, 2013, 07:06:44 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/RNMHCI9.jpg)

Been after these for absolutely ages, but was always put off by the high prices they went for. But recently somebody had them listed on E-Bay for what amounted to £11.00 each. Thank you very much.  :thumbsup:

Three series - twelve discs in total. Thats my viewing sorted out for a good while.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 08 April, 2013, 08:38:37 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/RNMHCI9.jpg)

Been after these for absolutely ages, but was always put off by the high prices they went for. But recently somebody had them listed on E-Bay for what amounted to £11.00 each. Thank you very much.  :thumbsup:

Three series - twelve discs in total. Thats my viewing sorted out for a good while.
Top stuff! :D
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 09 April, 2013, 08:04:48 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/RNMHCI9.jpg)

Been after these for absolutely ages, but was always put off by the high prices they went for. But recently somebody had them listed on E-Bay for what amounted to £11.00 each. Thank you very much.  :thumbsup:

Three series - twelve discs in total. Thats my viewing sorted out for a good while.

I've never seen a single minute of this JJ, despite hearing so much about it.
Give us a review when you're finished!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 09 April, 2013, 08:14:31 pm
I've been watching the complete run of 'Alias' starring Jennifer Garner...

WHYYYYYY??? It's TERRIBLE! The writing on this show is SOOOOOO CRAAAAAP!!! Somebody shoot me! PLEASE!
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Post by: von Boom on 09 April, 2013, 08:29:12 pm
I've been watching the complete run of 'Alias' starring Jennifer Garner...

WHYYYYYY??? It's TERRIBLE! The writing on this show is SOOOOOO CRAAAAAP!!! Somebody shoot me! PLEASE!

BANG!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 09 April, 2013, 08:32:01 pm
Working our way through Mad Men season 4 now, picked up seasons 1-5 for £50, well worth it.

It goes without saying really, but it really deserves its reputation. Excellent TV, Don Draper is such a compelling character.
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Post by: Link Prime on 09 April, 2013, 08:39:38 pm
Working our way through Mad Men season 4 now, picked up seasons 1-5 for £50, well worth it.

It goes without saying really, but it really deserves its reputation. Excellent TV, Don Draper is such a compelling character.

Better book the morning off work and get cramming Radiator, season 6 starting tomorrow night...
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Post by: radiator on 09 April, 2013, 10:10:34 pm
Ah, if I time it right we'll have season 5 wrapped up just in time to be able to watch all of season 6 back to back.

I think these really involved shows that have a huge casts of characters work so much better watched that way instead of watching week to week.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Spikes on 10 April, 2013, 12:21:18 am
I've never seen a single minute of this JJ, despite hearing so much about it.
Give us a review when you're finished!

No probs!
Personally, i love it. But then im a sucker for owt post-Apocalyptic. And my home town gets a couple of mentions - which seemed a big deal at the time!

For those that havent seen it before, itll probably seem tame, or slow going by today standards, but it has much to recommend it (and of course the BBC re-made the series a few years ago - which got cancelled after the 2nd series), but there's plenty of clips/full episodes of the original run posted up on You-Tube that you can check out, Rich.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 10 April, 2013, 09:18:50 am
I've been watching the complete run of 'Alias' starring Jennifer Garner...

WHYYYYYY??? It's TERRIBLE! The writing on this show is SOOOOOO CRAAAAAP!!! Somebody shoot me! PLEASE!

I can never tell when you young things are being sarcastic.  This is a joke, right? First couple of seasons I've seen have been aces.
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Post by: HdE on 10 April, 2013, 07:50:55 pm
I've been watching the complete run of 'Alias' starring Jennifer Garner...

WHYYYYYY??? It's TERRIBLE! The writing on this show is SOOOOOO CRAAAAAP!!! Somebody shoot me! PLEASE!

I can never tell when you young things are being sarcastic.  This is a joke, right? First couple of seasons I've seen have been aces.

Working STRICTLY within my caveat of 'if other people are enjoying it, all's well and good', I'll ennumerate the reasons I'm really not liking this show:

ALL of the leads are dreadful. Jennifer Garner is prone to some hideous over-acting. Victor Garber seems to be stuck at one default setting all the time. Michael Vartan is lumbered with the unenviable and unwinnable task of making Garner's love interest look like anything but a complete drip. And the soap-opera tone of the filler stuff that fits in around the plot (and there's a LOT of it) really services all concerned poorly, in my opinion. Awww... Sydney's flatmate just got engaged, but here fella is playing about on the side? I DON'T CARE! SHOW ME MORE SPIES AND ASS KICKING, DAMMIT!

There are some enjoyable moments, true - but for me they all seem to be buried in among the dross. It's almost as if the writers don't know when they're onto a good thing, and when they DO, they really hammer it into the ground.

I mean, Kevin Weismann's techie guy is genuinely brilliant, although his character becomes nauseatingly over-written later on. Must he stumble over himself unfailingly on his every single appearance? He's gone from being one fo the highlights of the show for me to a genuine irritation now.

And for every genuinely sharp and neatly written bit of dialogue, there are a dozen clunk-tastic wads of heavy exposition that grate in the extreme. There are some exchanges between Garner and Vartan, or Garner and Garber (try saying that fast ten times in a row!) that play so appallingly I've actually groaned audibly a few times.

I'm persevering with it just because there's a decent story idea in there, and I want to see it through. It waxes and wanes, and I won't pretend that I'm not being entertained, but... it all feels a bit average to me, and it's not something I think I'll come back to watch again. It's competently staged, sure... but this isn't a well written show, as far as I'm concerned. Not even close.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ChickenStu on 10 April, 2013, 09:19:48 pm
Never EVER watch the 1985 series of V. Just don't, OK?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 10 April, 2013, 11:59:12 pm
I solemnly promise you, ChickenStu... I will not.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ChickenStu on 11 April, 2013, 03:40:20 pm
I solemnly promise you, ChickenStu... I will not.

Don't ever watch Galactica 1980 either. You'd never survive the experience. There's just something about that show that makes people consider suicide...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 12 April, 2013, 06:14:50 pm

Don't ever watch Galactica 1980 either. You'd never survive the experience. There's just something about that show that makes people consider suicide...

Saw an episode once. Collapsed in hysterics. Put me of the new BSG for a good long while, I can tell you!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ChickenStu on 13 April, 2013, 12:49:58 am
Put me of the new BSG for a good long while, I can tell you!

Lol. Yeah, I was a fan of the newer one. Got it all on DVD. The only criticism I really have about it is that it went on a good half season too long. The first part of the last season was largely superflous. I reckon they could've chucked out a lot of that bollocks, made it shorter and just did the compelling story of the second half.

Otherwise, fuck me that was some TV show!
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Post by: Professor Bear on 13 April, 2013, 12:50:21 am
Those dreadful old 1980s sci-fi shows weren't all bad: I liked the synth score on V: The Series, and the opening episode where the little girl goes off to die in a cave and the snakes all gather around her corpse while "she's changing... BUT INTO WHAT?" and a green light pulses and creeptastic music plays was a commendable attempt on the makers' part at shitting the audience up the same way that lizard baby crawling out of a lady's womb under its own power did in the miniseries, but sadly there was just too much outright shite in the series as it tried too hard to be sci-fi rather than a drama about Nazis in control of America.

If you want old-school sci-fi, Buck Rogers in the 25th Century is pure cheesy gold.  I still rewatch the odd episode when I want to turn my brain off - I watched the theatrical cut of the pilot a week or so back, and watch Space Vampire every Halloween.  Planet of the Slave Girls is wonderfully camp and has Jack Palance as a cult leader and terrorist with a harem of barely-legal tottie creating more onscreen ham than live coverage of a swine flu bonfire, but Ardala Returns is amazing: the plot is that a space princess has robot doubles made of Buck so they can bang her from both ends, but Buck thinks sad thoughts while they copy his mind so the robots will be depressed all the time and not want to have sex or fights, meanwhile, one of his robot doubles - who is, naturally, also wired with a nuclear bomb - is walking around with Buck's mates on Earth saying things like "ERR-OR! Incorrect response to query!" out loud within earshot of everyone around him and no-one bats an eyelid - and yet the most ludicrous thing about it?  The idea that any character played by Pamela Hensley in a bikini would have trouble getting a shag.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ChickenStu on 13 April, 2013, 01:10:49 am
Those dreadful old 1980s sci-fi shows weren't all bad: I liked the synth score on V: The Series, and the opening episode where the little girl goes off to die in a cave and the snakes all gather around her corpse while "she's changing... BUT INTO WHAT?" and a green light pulses and creeptastic music plays was a commendable attempt on the makers' part at shitting the audience up the same way that lizard baby crawling out of a lady's womb under its own power did in the miniseries, but sadly there was just too much outright shite in the series as it tried too hard to be sci-fi rather than a drama about Nazis in control of America.

TOTALLY AGREED.

If you want old-school sci-fi, Buck Rogers in the 25th Century is pure cheesy gold. 

Oh you and I are SO going to be friends...  :)


I still rewatch the odd episode when I want to turn my brain off - I watched the theatrical cut of the pilot a week or so back, and watch Space Vampire every Halloween.  Planet of the Slave Girls is wonderfully camp and has Jack Palance as a cult leader and terrorist with a harem of barely-legal tottie creating more onscreen ham than live coverage of a swine flu bonfire, but Ardala Returns is amazing: the plot is that a space princess has robot doubles made of Buck so they can bang her from both ends, but Buck thinks sad thoughts while they copy his mind so the robots will be depressed all the time and not want to have sex or fights, meanwhile, one of his robot doubles - who is, naturally, also wired with a nuclear bomb - is walking around with Buck's mates on Earth saying things like "ERR-OR! Incorrect response to query!" out loud within earshot of everyone around him and no-one bats an eyelid - and yet the most ludicrous thing about it?  The idea that any character played by Pamela Hensley in a bikini would have trouble getting a shag.

I used to love that show as a kid. REALLY love it. I've flirted with buying the DVD set a few times but for some reason have never had the guts to do it. I remember one magical saturday when I had the most horrendous hangover (don't drink now btw) an old channel called Bravo did a WHOLE DAY of Buck Rogers. It was absolute fucking HEAVEN and MIRACULOUSY it made my hangover go away (although a great big bacon and sausage baguette - greasy as fuck - played a big part).

I'm getting it. That's all there is to it, I'm fucking getting it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 13 April, 2013, 03:06:52 am
Those dreadful old 1980s sci-fi shows weren't all bad: I liked the synth score on V: The Series, and the opening episode where the little girl goes off to die in a cave and the snakes all gather around her corpse while "she's changing... BUT INTO WHAT?" and a green light pulses and creeptastic music plays was a commendable attempt on the makers' part at shitting the audience up the same way that lizard baby crawling out of a lady's womb under its own power did in the miniseries, but sadly there was just too much outright shite in the series as it tried too hard to be sci-fi rather than a drama about Nazis in control of America.

Pretty much spot-on as to why V was largely a one-off deal for me, or should have been anyway; it was a social-political allegory exploring how the typical Americana community would react in varying ways in the event of a totalitarian takeover, it didn't even begin as an alien invasion drama, the villains were 100% human fascists, but NBC thought it needed more pizazz and suggested making them aliens... an inspired suggestion as it turned out, as that first scene when Marc Singer rips off the Visitor's face mask and you get a good look at what really  lurks underneath remains one of the very best scenes of modern sci-fi drama.  That first mini-series ends perfectly; all the principal characters have chosen sides in the new regime (whether it be co-operation or resistance), and although the humans have won the first skirmish the war continues, there was nothing more to say after that... it was never about defeating the alien invasion and liberating Earth, it was always a character piece about how people react to fascism and whether they accept or rebel against it!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Daveycandlish on 13 April, 2013, 07:48:12 am
Yeah but if we had left it there you would never have had Michael Ironside turn up. And he's great.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ChickenStu on 13 April, 2013, 03:11:54 pm
Yeah but if we had left it there you would never have had Michael Ironside turn up. And he's great.

I've met him you know... in fact... a few years ago he probably would've made an awesome Judge Dredd!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 13 April, 2013, 04:42:44 pm
Caught the last 9 episodes of Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated, and for a show whose central conceit is the secular pursuit of truth at all costs, that was one batshit crazy series finale.  If you know Scooby Doo only as a cultural phenomenon - I couldn't really stand any of the other versions of the show but this one - you grasp the core idea: kids investigate seemingly supernatural goings-on and always find a logical explanation which may or may not be a bit silly, yet Mystery Inc creates an overarcing cause for it all in the form of an elder god manipulating the kids and their adversaries across time.  By the end the show is revealed not just as a prequel to the original Scooby Doo series from the 1960s, but also as a meta-origin for all the other versions of Scooby Doo, and we find this out when Harlan Ellison shows up, though not before the show crosses over with Twin Peaks and also makes it clear Velma really was gay in the original series, which she realises only when her would-be girlfriend is murdered in the penultimate episode - no, really.
It didn't always make sense and was not subtle, but it ends with what is easily one of the all-time great series finales. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: auxlen on 13 April, 2013, 05:28:42 pm
I cannot recommend highly enough Callan the colour years starring edward woodward. 70's drama at its understated best.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 13 April, 2013, 07:30:10 pm
Caught the last 9 episodes of Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated, and for a show whose central conceit is the secular pursuit of truth at all costs, that was one batshit crazy series finale.  If you know Scooby Doo only as a cultural phenomenon - I couldn't really stand any of the other versions of the show but this one - you grasp the core idea: kids investigate seemingly supernatural goings-on and always find a logical explanation which may or may not be a bit silly, yet Mystery Inc creates an overarcing cause for it all in the form of an elder god manipulating the kids and their adversaries across time.  By the end the show is revealed not just as a prequel to the original Scooby Doo series from the 1960s, but also as a meta-origin for all the other versions of Scooby Doo, and we find this out when Harlan Ellison shows up, though not before the show crosses over with Twin Peaks and also makes it clear Velma really was gay in the original series, which she realises only when her would-be girlfriend is murdered in the penultimate episode - no, really.
It didn't always make sense and was not subtle, but it ends with what is easily one of the all-time great series finales.
OK, I need to watch this now.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Spikes on 13 April, 2013, 08:04:21 pm
I cannot recommend highly enough Callan the colour years starring edward woodward. 70's drama at its understated best.

Ive given some thought to buying this set. From Network, isnt it?
And while were talking of the great Mr Woodward, im hoping somebody will eventually get round to releasing this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_(TV_series)) as a complete box set.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: smilersaltash on 14 April, 2013, 12:25:22 am
Never EVER watch the 1985 series of V. Just don't, OK?

I remember watching this as alternative to the 1984 Olympics, and had high viewing figures. Was groundbreaking tv at the time.
Tried to watch it when the series was repeated on Syfy recently, but found it had not stood the test of time, and was in fact shite.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 14 April, 2013, 03:44:56 am
I too watched it that week of the Olympics, although I disagree that it's what you said it was, was it the sequel mini-series you were watching, V: The Final Battle, in which case I would partly agree with your assessment, it's clearly inferior to the original eponymous two-part mini-series, which remains for me one of the very best sci-fi allegorical dramas of recent years (flaws notwithstanding).  V's creator/writer/director Kenneth Johnson left the sequel mini-series early in it's development (after mapping out the basic story outline) because Warner Bros were being overly tight with the budget and wouldn't give Johnson the money to do it right... hence why he walked rather than make a compromised version! 

And I agree about Michael Ironside being a real highlight of The Final Battle, but it's still a pity that Kenneth Johnson didn't get the requisite budget to remain on his creation, it clearly would have been better than how it turned out (which is still pretty good), and more akin in style and tone to the original mini-series - darker and more somber - but that still doesn't detract from just how good a piece of sci-fi drama the two-part original was and still is.

Lastly, if you want a great new series, grab the Season One box set of Person of Interest, hands down the best thing on telly right now... and proof you don't need either bloody violence, excessive profanity, or overt sexual content to pull off a first-rate drama.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ChickenStu on 14 April, 2013, 11:07:00 am
Guys, in 2008 Kenneth Johnson wrote a novel called V: The Second Generation which was set 20 years after the original mini-series. It ignores the events of V: The Final Battle and V: The Series and picks up on a cliffhanger from the end of the original mini-series where the resistance send a distress call into outer space to another alien race who are enemies of the visitors. In the book... help arrives.

It may be jarring to anyone who was a fan of V: The Final Battle and V: The Series cause not only are those events completely ignored (Kenneth Johnson has never even watched them), but characters who died in those (Harmony, Robert Maxwell, Martin) are walking around alive and well in the book as if nothing ever happened. No star child bollocks, no Ham Tyler, no red dust... no nothing.

If you can get past that, it's a pretty good read. It's definitely one for the fans though.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 14 April, 2013, 06:52:26 pm
Helped a friend move yesterday and noticed she had Game of Thrones season 1, so I've borrowed that to find out what everyone's so giddy about.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 14 April, 2013, 08:08:16 pm
I'm sort of moderately interested in Game Of Thrones... just not a fan of the HBO 'bewbs wiv everyfing' modus operandi. I might give it a peek when there's more of it available on DVD.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 15 April, 2013, 01:49:47 pm
Now watching The Big O season 1.
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Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 15 April, 2013, 01:55:55 pm
Quote
I'm sort of moderately interested in Game Of Thrones... just not a fan of the HBO 'bewbs wiv everyfing' modus operandi. I might give it a peek when there's more of it available on DVD.

Tbh I find the more lurid/titilating elements a bit annoying. Just remember that the boobs/incest/genital mutilation etc etc are there to get the attention of the average punter, and there is so much more to the show than that.

What I love is the grand scale, the world-building (it's so intricate and crafted that just one small corner of Westeros would be the entire setting in another fantasy saga), the intrigue and the shocking twists.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Charlie boy on 15 April, 2013, 05:50:14 pm
I'm one of the few other people to have never seen Game of Thrones. I used to really want to see it because I was still working in a bookstore when the first series started and one or two people I worked with were talking about it and every day you'd have loads of lads who you'd usually look at and think "They think all books are stupid" coming in and asking what order to purchase them in. The reason why I sort of lost interest in seeing it (I'm still a little curious about it but it's so far in now and I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything by not watching it, having never seen it) is down to noticing it was being shown on Freeview's PickTV when it was 3 or 4 episodes in to the first series so I felt I'd somewhat missed that boat.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 15 April, 2013, 06:28:05 pm
Now watching The Big O season 1.

When you get to the end of season 1, don't watch season 2.  That way you can always believe it might be good, rather than knowing for a certainty that it was horseshit.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 15 April, 2013, 08:09:20 pm
Now watching The Big O season 1.

When you get to the end of season 1, don't watch season 2.  That way you can always believe it might be good, rather than knowing for a certainty that it was horseshit.
Yeah, I hear it's a sequel best left alone. Just watched the 4th episode and already this might be a strong contender for best TV series i've watched in a good while. Really encapsulates everything I loved about old school animation before everything was either trying to be Naruto or Spongebob dependent on which side of the other pond you are on.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 15 April, 2013, 08:22:37 pm

Tbh I find the more lurid/titilating elements a bit annoying. Just remember that the boobs/incest/genital mutilation etc etc are there to get the attention of the average punter, and there is so much more to the show than that.

Colour me average then because I love those.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 15 April, 2013, 08:26:20 pm
The Big O is pure class, and I'll not countenance any talk of season 2 being crap. Just because it isn't.

[/internet dogma.]

Seriously - I LOVE The Big O! It's jam packed with style and character, and it's a helluva lot of fun.

DO NOT skip season 2. You may find it very difficult to get hold of if you don't already have it, is the only drawback. I can appreciate that not everybody likes the way it continues (or, indeed, concludes) but I was thoroughly entertained all the way.

If only there were more TV shows that were this much fun.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 15 April, 2013, 11:26:42 pm
Season 2 is superfluous (especially if you've seen the Truman Show and/or The Matrix), needlessly convoluted, and only exists not because the makers thought it was necessary to the story (they cut the original 26 episode story down to 13 after the show's poor reception in Japan), but because American tv bods wanted more episodes after the show's surprise success in the west.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 16 April, 2013, 05:49:50 pm
Talking about classic anime and current TV box set addictions, here's an upcoming release that fits into both categories nicely indeed. And I just pre-ordered it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 16 April, 2013, 09:57:57 pm
Season 2 is superfluous (especially if you've seen the Truman Show and/or The Matrix), needlessly convoluted, [snip]

I disagree with you on all counts there. Principally because if a first time viewer were to leave off at season 1 episode 13, it really doesn't offer a satisfying ending. Season 2 builds ta conclusion, whatever you might think of it. Personally, I love it. But, y'know, each to their own.


As for Cowboy Bebop - what a great show! I'm suddenly reminded that I need to go back and re-watch it. Really pleased to see this getting another release.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 16 April, 2013, 11:11:04 pm
I disagree with you on all counts there. Principally because if a first time viewer were to leave off at season 1 episode 13, it really doesn't offer a satisfying ending.

Depends how much you value closure over consistency.  Not much point in having a definite ending if it's an ending to a different show.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: smilersaltash on 16 April, 2013, 11:35:35 pm
I'm still waiting for Twin Peaks to be properly finished off.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 16 April, 2013, 11:42:12 pm
Wasn't there a rumour recently that Twin Peaks is returning?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: smilersaltash on 16 April, 2013, 11:57:44 pm
I heard that rumour too, but don't know if it was anything more than that.

I am going to borrow Game of Thrones Season 1 tomorrow as my interest has been piqued. General concensus in work was that it is like a soft porn film, so thought I would take the plunge.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 17 April, 2013, 12:49:59 am
Wasn't there a rumour recently that Twin Peaks is returning?

You missed it - the Red Room appeared in and was a major plot element in the final story arc of Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated.  There was an entire episode set within it, but the short version of the story is that the events of the Mystery Incorporated series are wiped from time itself and become a prequel to the original 1960s Scooby Doo series, every other Scooby Doo continuity, other Hanna Barbera cartoon shows such as Blue Falcon and Moby Dick, and Twin Peaks.

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Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 April, 2013, 01:35:39 am
Wasn't there a rumour recently that Twin Peaks is returning?


According to Jennifer Lynch and Mark Frost it was never a 'thing'.


Story-wise, next year will mark the significant '25 years' since Cooper first entered The Black Lodge.


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Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ChickenStu on 17 April, 2013, 10:40:37 am
Yep. I could handle some new Twin Peaks!  :)

Do you know, I was 12 when I first watched that show and I got REALLY into it. Weird for a kid that age innit?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 17 April, 2013, 10:42:47 am
You know, there are many great show's I've watched. But Twin Peaks isn't one of them. I should probably fix that.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 17 April, 2013, 11:54:17 am
You know, there are many great show's I've watched. But Twin Peaks isn't one of them.

I agree, but I DID watch it. Pretentious bunch of pants then, pretentious bunch of pants now.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Charlie boy on 17 April, 2013, 12:58:38 pm
I agree, but I DID watch it. Pretentious bunch of pants then, pretentious bunch of pants now.
We share a birthday Mr Dare and I tend to agree with most of your posts, but that is like a slap in my face!
As for Twin Peaks 3, it'll never happen. Lynch says he ended it the way he did believing he would be given a 3rd run on demand and he would be able to tie everything up and finish it properly. When that didn't happen, he was well pissed. When his Mulholland Drive series fell apart, he swore never to work on a TV show again. When Frost said he would do Twin Peaks series 3, Lynch complained openly about it and put Frost off in doing so. Apparently, he did attend a meeting with TV folk recently to discuss Twin Peaks series 3- only to say they had left it far too long and it won't happen.
In the book Lynch on Lynch, he says an entry was found in Laura's journal about Cooper being in the Black Lodge and they got him out of there; it's just Lynch never filmed it happening.
Don't forget there were rumours years back of an X Files/Twin Peaks crossover (would Duchovny be Mulder or Denise in that?) and Lynch said it was insulting to suggest Mulder and Scully could sort everything that happened there in a small number of episodes. Lynch still gets annoyed when its suggested shows like X Files and Lost were made possible thanks to Twin Peaks. It looks to be something of an illegitimate father to much of the TV that followed.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: sheldipez on 17 April, 2013, 01:14:10 pm
You know, there are many great show's I've watched. But Twin Peaks isn't one of them. I should probably fix that.

I watched the Pilot and didn't watch any more, I was expecting more of the weird I've heard about but it just came across as an extended soap-drama movie. Maybe it takes a few episodes for the good stuff to kick in but the pilot was enough. Generally if you don't hook me with the pilot you've lost me.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 17 April, 2013, 04:51:34 pm
You know, there are many great show's I've watched. But Twin Peaks isn't one of them.

I agree, but I DID watch it. Pretentious bunch of pants then, pretentious bunch of pants now.
Dude, my favourite films of all time are Videodrome, Forbidden Zone, The Big Lebowski, and Zardoz. I live off pretention. :lol:
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 18 April, 2013, 09:59:04 pm
Brimstone, or as I like to call it: Awkward Rapey Satanic Detective Show
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 18 April, 2013, 10:07:54 pm
Brimstone, or as I like to call it: Awkward Rapey Satanic Detective Show

They remade this several years later and renamed it Raper, only someone made a typo.  Then they took out the rapes, so in the end it worked out okay.

Brian Glover is always watchable, though, and apparantly a top bloke in real life.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 18 April, 2013, 10:23:15 pm
Brian Glover is always watchable, though, and apparantly a top bloke in real life.

I think you mean 'John', Pro. I've never seen such slack wok in my life, Casper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Glover).

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 19 April, 2013, 12:19:44 am
I did, actually - but Brian Glover is also always watchable.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 21 April, 2013, 10:39:41 pm
Finished The Big O. Season 2 an' all. Over all, a masterclass in animation and a truely mind blowing good series. The conclusion to season 2 was conffusing yes, but only in the sense I felt it was going somewhere. Although I very much doub't it's currently on the cards a third (and final) season would be more than welcome.

Gonna start watching Gunsmith Cats next. Or maybe Baccano. I can't deciede.
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Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 22 April, 2013, 10:15:44 am
I know Walking Dead has its own thread, but that seems to be focused on Season 3 and so I'm avoiding that to avoid spoilers as I've currently finally got around to watching season 2 thanks to my LoveFilm list. Last night I watched episode 7 and the big barn opening. Have to say I'm really enjoying it and the ending to that episode, though on one level quite poorly written so as to rather labour the point it was making about the group and its shifting dynamics, has certainly left me hankering for more.

As I recall, possibly incorrectly, Season 2 came in for a hard time? Is that right? Its far from perfect, but to date its been pretty good. At times out and out scary (the under the cars bit in particular) and seems to be handling the soap opera, human dilemma stuff really well. Each week seems to set up some new conflict or other, but no plot line seems to be left hanging for too long to outstay its welcome. In each episode since they've arrived at the farm there does seem to be one or two too many hand wringing, meaningful conversations on the poach, or the like, but never so much as it gets dull.

I think they handle the balance with the human transformation the post apocalypse world throws up and reminding us its also a zombie horror show, which sometimes will involve putting various tools and weapons through the heads of our living dead hosts in suitably gory fashion.

The bits of the comic I've read (and I've tried a couple of times) have left me cold (Kirkman really isn't such a great writer is he) but the telly show strikes me as much more entertaining and generally better put together.

Out of interest, if beefs with this season do exist, what were they?

On another note (and going back to the beginning of this thread, my wife has had Breaking Bad recommended to her and so it looks like we'll be watching that soon (she's marked it as a priority watch on our list), which I'm looking forward to after hearing such good thing about it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: michael kennedy on 22 April, 2013, 10:52:29 am
it was was double the episodes of the first season and also a somewhat slowburner but it pays off in the end.



Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 03 May, 2013, 09:36:21 pm
Finished The Big O. Season 2 an' all. Over all, a masterclass in animation and a truely mind blowing good series. The conclusion to season 2 was conffusing yes, but only in the sense I felt it was going somewhere. Although I very much doub't it's currently on the cards a third (and final) season would be more than welcome.

Alas, a third season will never happen. Too bad, I say.

But now that you've seen the whole shebang, I'd say it's worth going back for a rewatch at some point. That ending is kind of mind boggling in terms of how much it throws at you, literally tying everything up within the last minute or so of the entore series. However, if you're the sort fo viewer who's inclined to go back and puzzle it out, all becomes clear.

Love that show!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 04 May, 2013, 12:10:00 am
With you on The Walking Dead. I never got the crit of season 2 and am eagerly awaiting 3 when it gets on Channel 5.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 04 May, 2013, 06:43:13 am
Just finished the second season and it was fun all the way through. The only problem I had with it and I felt that this was particularly the case in the second half, was the way each episode seemed to MAKE. ITS. POINT. a little to... well pointedly. Its not a subtle show and each episode seemed to be about something and rather labour that point. Almost like a set of vignettes exploring what would happen in the zombie apocalypse to the survivors. which just happened to have central characters and plot moving things forward. This was especially the case in the '12 Angry Men' (not the actual title) what do do with Randall episode. What could have been a real series highlight, turned into a rather one toned piece. This was somewhat underlined by Dale's fate, as if the only thing had to be dealt with and then the everything to do with it mopped up and put away.

The last episode also seemed to function as merely to set up the next series and again unsubtly underscore a new dynamic for the group, that will function for that series. Kinda like the impression I've always had of the bits of the comic I read. Mind love the way they dealt with the Zombies conveniently turning up on mass to move the plot on from time to time. That was a very nice touch.

Still, for all that apparent griping it was always a compelling and exciting story and zombies have never looked so scary and most the characters are really well realised as well.

Really looking forward to the next season.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 06 May, 2013, 02:19:47 am
So I just somehow watched all 63 episodes of Arrested Development.  After my initial tirade I found myself getting sucked into it. By the last episode I was pretty sad it had come to an end. Some of it really made me laugh out loud. I loved the Yellow Submarine pisstake, and how Gobs illusions backfired all the time. Also, the various cameos were great, particularly Ben Stiller's rival magician.

So now I need to find another box set to get obsessed with.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 06 May, 2013, 09:42:15 am
If you haven't seen it already, try Community.

It takes a while to find its voice, but when it shifts into gear it becomes the greatest, most ambitious and defiantly weird sitcom since Arrested Development.

Also Freaks and Geeks is essential viewing if you haven't seen that.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 11 May, 2013, 08:06:05 pm
Just watch this. Really, it's stonking good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMXgHfHxKVM
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 12 May, 2013, 12:12:37 pm
Just watch this. Really, it's stonking good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMXgHfHxKVM

Grud help me, but apparently I just cannot get into Anime.  I tried the first episode of this, and from the title sequence setting my teeth on edge to the awful character designs and ludicrously overwrought climax, I hated it.  Architectural backgrounds are nice, but you couldn't force me to watch another episode. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 12 May, 2013, 12:31:27 pm
Just watch this. Really, it's stonking good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMXgHfHxKVM

Grud help me, but apparently I just cannot get into Anime.  I tried the first episode of this, and from the title sequence setting my teeth on edge to the awful character designs and ludicrously overwrought climax, I hated it.  Architectural backgrounds are nice, but you couldn't force me to watch another episode.
Anime is very much a median I find is marmite to say the least. Chances are if you like one (Cowboy Bebop not withstanding as it's universaly loved) you'll find a number of others to your taste. Like you I see a number of people who just dislike the general asthetic feel to it. At time's even I dislike the large eye's and other issues, but Attack on Titan is far from the worst offender (i'm looking at you One Piece!), but look to stuff like Cowboy Bebop, Baccano, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex and Big O for some more western like animated style's, these are the one's generaly most well recieved in the west.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 12 May, 2013, 12:40:57 pm
Alright world, I'm going to makeyou  a deal:  I will watch Cowboy Bebop.  And if I don't like I will stop trying to watch Anime, and accept that it's not for me, and we'll say no more about it. 

Everyone's been nagging me about Cowboy Bebop for so long now that it seems like a suitable test.
Title: Re: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: sheldipez on 12 May, 2013, 01:26:09 pm
I tend to be of the opinion that ghost in the Shell stand alone complex is anime for people that don't like anime. Great Sci fi show.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 12 May, 2013, 02:31:15 pm
The thing to remember about anime is that it's a huge myth that it has the respect of live action or "serious" drama in its native Japan when it's at best seen as a harmless distraction, but otherwise is for kids and nerds no matter what us western fans claim otherwise.  While trying to introduce others to its charms, it's worth remembering that this task is no different than trying to get a regular joe into Babylon 5 or Star Trek.

Also toys: the product placement in anime is often shameless and jarring even for its original audience, but for those in the west not realising they're watching a scene whose only purpose is to promote an action figure and which serves no narrative purpose, I imagine it is utterly baffling.

If I was trying to get non-nerds into anime, I'd start with Samurai Champloo (anachronistic mix of hip-hop soundtrack, over-the-top characters and period setting), Samurai 7 (Seven Samurai relocated to an abandoned mining asteroid in the far future that has regressed to fuedalism), or aforementioned Cowboy Bebop, but I'd avoid the pretentious Evengelion like the plague, if only because the constant re-releases make it abundantly clear that two decades after it finished the damn thing is still a work in progress.  If you like to watch your 'toons with little 'uns, I'd say the original Mobile Suit Gundam is a good bet, as it mixes a little bit of everything in there, with influences from Lucas to Heinlein, or Sherlock Hound, which wasn't really for me but went down a storm with my younger relatives.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 12 May, 2013, 11:10:54 pm
If you like to watch your 'toons with little 'uns, I'd say the original Mobile Suit Gundam is a good bet...

Isn't there a risk it might Cyberleader2000ify them?  Although admittedly my enforced viewings of ST:TOS hasn't James. T. Beared them (yet).
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: James Stacey on 13 May, 2013, 06:53:25 am
If you haven't seen it already, try Community.

It takes a while to find its voice, but when it shifts into gear it becomes the greatest, most ambitious and defiantly weird sitcom since Arrested Development.

Everybody should take Radiators advice. He is wise.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 13 May, 2013, 01:30:26 pm
Isn't there a risk it might Cyberleader2000ify them?

The original MSG is actually the most straightforward of all the giant robot 'toons I've seen, and being made before videogame logic started seeping into anime storytelling means that even its daftest conceits like the nebulous "Newtype" plot arc - where it's suggested humanity's move into space has triggered some sort of evolutionary jump in the species - just comes off as a slight riff on The Force in the background of episodes.  It is very much a show that - if characters weren't killed off in the latter portion of the series - would have been on kids' telly when we were younger and remembered fondly, and I can't see it damaging younger viewers or giving them a hankering for giant robots and/or anime.  The robot stuff is really just functional animation at best, and the old-fashioned storytelling means it doesn't really have any appeal to fans of illogical and incestuous modern anime as anything other than the starting point of later dreadful series like G Gundam or Gundam Seed: Destiny.
So no, between the slower pace, logical story progression/setup and emphasis on character over mecha porn, I don't think it could Cyberleader2000ify your nippers, which is good because he's a treasure and making more would only dilute the charm.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 13 May, 2013, 01:50:08 pm
I don't think it could Cyberleader2000ify your nippers, which is good because he's a treasure and making more would only dilute the charm.

And cause rampant inflation on eBay.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 13 May, 2013, 02:22:45 pm
Isn't there a risk it might Cyberleader2000ify them?

The original MSG is actually the most straightforward of all the giant robot 'toons I've seen, and being made before videogame logic started seeping into anime storytelling means that even its daftest conceits like the nebulous "Newtype" plot arc - where it's suggested humanity's move into space has triggered some sort of evolutionary jump in the species - just comes off as a slight riff on The Force in the background of episodes.  It is very much a show that - if characters weren't killed off in the latter portion of the series - would have been on kids' telly when we were younger and remembered fondly, and I can't see it damaging younger viewers or giving them a hankering for giant robots and/or anime.  The robot stuff is really just functional animation at best, and the old-fashioned storytelling means it doesn't really have any appeal to fans of illogical and incestuous modern anime as anything other than the starting point of later dreadful series like G Gundam or Gundam Seed: Destiny.
So no, between the slower pace, logical story progression/setup and emphasis on character over mecha porn, I don't think it could Cyberleader2000ify your nippers, which is good because he's a treasure and making more would only dilute the charm.
No mention of Gundam Wing or Endless Waltz? As far as I'm concerned they are the best material turned out by the metaseries. Saying that I can't fault your logic that MSG is the most "straightforward" of them all.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 13 May, 2013, 04:39:04 pm
For me, Gundam Wing wandered off the reservation towards the end with arbitrary double-crosses, random plot twists and a bad case of "I am not going to kill you for the moment" that undermined any dramatic tension and reduced characters like Wufei and Trowa to cyphers.  Before that it just wasn't very well structured and relied entirely on its audience's familiarity with anime tropes rather than actual storytelling - a problem that later carried over into the visually-impressive but ultimately hollow 00.
Mobile Suit Gundam, Victory and War In The Pocket are the best the series have to offer, but I have a soft spot for the steampunk stylings of Turn-A, and the full-on kiddie-adventuring of Gundam X.  If you have the self control to watch only the first six episodes of Destiny and then never watch any more, you'll probably think that's pretty good, too.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 13 May, 2013, 07:02:05 pm
Yeah, the original Gundam show is pretty straightforward and inoffensive. I've never been able to get along with Wing, though.

And, to Tordelback, I say this:

DEFINITELY give Cowboy Bebop a look. It's one of the more accessible shows out there, features some great action scenes, and packs a wallop in the finale.

Whoever suggested Samurai Seven is also on the right track. That's an awesome show - and also largely devoid of the big-eyed character designs that switch off most anti-anime types.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ChickenStu on 24 May, 2013, 02:38:19 pm
Lois & Clark: The New Adventures Of Superman - Season One

I'm actually really digging this!  :) Just ordered the second season from Amazon!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 24 May, 2013, 07:06:58 pm
I just received the complete Monkey box set dvds in the mail after ordering them Ebay and have started watching them.

Born from a egg on a mountain top....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2huJqFsFDE

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 24 May, 2013, 08:00:29 pm
Aw, maaaan... I'm quite jealous now! Monkey is pure, unadulterated fun!

I sometimes think we could use more shows like that on TV. Everything is so overwrought and serious these days.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 25 May, 2013, 09:02:23 am
Lois & Clark: The New Adventures Of Superman - Season One

I'm actually really digging this!  :) Just ordered the second season from Amazon!

I'll confess to not having seen it since it was on the Beeb, but it was pretty much perfect viewing for a Saturday tea-time.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 25 May, 2013, 03:05:01 pm
I just received the complete Monkey box set dvds in the mail after ordering them Ebay and have started watching them.

Born from a egg on a mountain top....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2huJqFsFDE

Monkey is pure class, I used to watch it avidly when it was first on telly in 1979.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 25 May, 2013, 03:51:04 pm
Lois & Clark: The New Adventures Of Superman - Season One

I'm actually really digging this!  :) Just ordered the second season from Amazon!

THE HAIR!  THE CLOTHES!  FAX MACHINES!  COMPUTER HACKING EPISODES!
But it's brilliant to see Superman being played as Superman instead of a moping teenager or a closeted gay man, Dean Cain largely playing the role as a stuffy older brother rather than as everyone's dad.  It's interesting to see the show's take that Superman is just a role played by Clark Kent rather than the other way around, and Lex Luthor as the dark side of the American dream is a fantastic foil that harks back to the idea of Superman as a social crusader later revived by Grant Morrison in the comics to less interesting effect.  Owes a heck of a lot to the Superboy tv show, all the same.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ChickenStu on 25 May, 2013, 09:16:25 pm
Dean Cain was pretty good. Interesting tidbit: Dean Cain is actually one quarter Japanese (his birth name was Dean Tanaka). His ethnic heritage explains his exotic features. It was a big factor in him getting cast as Superman because he didn't look like a typical, square jawed American. Producers thought his unusual, yet striking visage made him more believable as an alien.

So there's your bit of useless trivia for today!  :D
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 25 May, 2013, 10:05:49 pm
I already knew that and demand a different bit of trivia.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 26 May, 2013, 02:06:24 am
I already knew that and demand a different bit of trivia.

I got yer back, Bear.

Weezie Simonson, Jon Bogdanov, Mike Carlin and some other comics guys (but not friend-of-the-forum and major influence on the series John Byrne) all have non-speaking roles in one 1st Season episode. 

The Superboy rights situation meant Smallville characters like Lana Lang appeared under different names in the earlier seasons, but when rights reverted later in the run they were replaced by their 'proper' comics versions.

And I only just got the pun in the title. 

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 26 May, 2013, 11:22:48 am
And I only just got the pun in the title.

 :-*
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 26 May, 2013, 11:31:48 am
Lois & Clark = Lewis & Clark

I know, I'm a moron.  I even had a (horrible) job doing the maps for a Lewis & Clark Expedition project once.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 26 May, 2013, 11:33:34 am
Ah - I've just had to Google 'Lewis & Clark', so I would never have got that!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ChickenStu on 26 May, 2013, 02:57:14 pm
I already knew that and demand a different bit of trivia.

OK. I got this for ya: The show was the first live action incarnation of the character that was based on John Byrne's Superman: The Man Of Steel post crisis 1986 comic book reboot. This is why Lex Luthor was a multi billionaire businessman, and why Clark Kent's human Dad Jonathan Kent was still alive.

Those things confused the shit out of older viewers who weren't aware it had been restarted in 86.

It was also the first time we saw the characters Cat Grant and Metallo on screen in live action Superman.  :geek:
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 27 May, 2013, 05:08:55 pm
Lois & Clark aired during my pubescent years, so my only lasting memory of it was that I was always very happy with the amount of eye candy on view from main stars Teri Hatcher & Tracey Scoggins, to guest stars like Jessica Collins, Denise Richards, and even MILFs (now GILFs) like Racquel Welch & Michelle Philipps.

I'd say the casting director enjoyed his tenure on that show.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Sideshow Bob on 27 May, 2013, 10:32:12 pm
I remember watching that myself,  and thoroughly 'enjoying' it...

And I would say that most lads everywhere, enjoyed that particular Casting Directors' tenure on the show.................Mmnnnn ......Teri Hatcher.....Wow....
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 27 May, 2013, 10:40:13 pm
We've just watched the first two eps of the Netflix Arrested Development, and its doing absolutely nothing for me.

Dense and head-spinningly fast-paced, with hardly a joke in sight. Oh dear.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Buttonman on 27 May, 2013, 11:02:46 pm
I'm enjoying the Arrested Development reboot! - seen 9 of 15 episodes today and I'd say it was up to standard - which is a good thing!

Lots of it is self reverential with 'I blued myself', 'I made a huge mistake' and 'Mister F' all geting an airing but there is still some development with Ron Howard getting a bigger role as is Isla Fisher - yum yum!

I appreciate it's not all laugh out loud funny but the Tobias and Gob episodes were near classics - and that's only on the first viewing.

Have you seen the show before Radiator? You're always going to get hop ons, as they say.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 27 May, 2013, 11:23:49 pm
Ill play along and answer your question even though it seems deliberately constructed to let you use your 'hop ons' quote. Yes, big fan - especially seasons 1&2 - 3 was a little patchy, but at least it had, y'know, jokes in it.

I'll watch another episode or two, but if it doesn't drastically improve - and I very much suspect it won't - i'll be shelving it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: von Boom on 28 May, 2013, 02:35:32 pm
Watched the first two episodes of Arrested Development last evening and while it's not bad, it's not as funny as the original series so far. I'll watch a few more today and see how they go.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pauljholden on 28 May, 2013, 02:53:52 pm
Just finished watching the entire new series of Arrested Development. Felt slow to start, like it was a little rusty, but by the end of it it's like you've watched Doc Manhattan's clock inspired Martian building being formed around you - it's kind of amazing.

I can see why they didn't want reviewers to judge it on the first few episodes, much of the gags are set up but don't play off for as many as 10 episodes later (and there's loads which is upended and looped back and changes entirely by the end of the entire run)

I read somewhere that the writer was pitching this as a series AND a movie - rather than a series with the hope for a movie. The last episode feels like the lead in to a whodunnit movie, the clues - I'm sure - are littered around the entire series.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 28 May, 2013, 04:08:29 pm
I watched maybe 6-7 episodes of AD last night, and my overall feeling was they were relying too much on the farcical nature of the interweaving story threads for the comedy, rather than the witty interchanges of yore.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 28 May, 2013, 04:13:37 pm
Currently watching The Two Ronnies series 2. Love me some Ronnies. Loving Done to Death. :lol:
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 28 June, 2013, 12:31:47 am
Couldn't really call it an addiction, but I've finally gotten around to watching the TV adaptation of Alan Garner's The Owl Service, which I bought a mere four years ago (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=24015.0).

It's all over the place really. The plummy, staginess of it is to be expected given its vintage but there are bigger problems with the pacing. Simultaneously stretching some things out too long and repetitively while leaving other plot strands underplayed to such a degree as to be incomprehensible until the voiceover intro of the next episode. The book is certainly enigmatic but at least explains enough of the circumstance to leave you baffled by what you're told rather than what you're not. Most frustratingly, every so often, it manages to hit something exactly right: an image, an effectively freaky sequence or just a scene that really allows the characters to express themselves or their relationships.

Shamefully, I fear it's Gillian Hills as Alison that keeps me watching. She's like a sixties Karen Gillan with better hair. Don't worry though, I checked and she was a good bit older than her character at the time.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 June, 2013, 12:36:41 am


Couldn't really call it an addiction, but I've finally gotten around to watching the TV adaptation of Alan Garner's The Owl Service


They knew how to do title-sequences back then: The Owl Service (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyst2klpy08&list=PLA1B785C1382C45F1)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 28 June, 2013, 03:21:06 pm
LOONEY TUNES!

Roadrunner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWTRPThy7tk) is the greatest cartoon ever made. I'll brook no arguments on that.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 28 June, 2013, 05:06:53 pm
About a month ago, I got the full series one of  Kindred the Embraced (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindred:_The_Embraced). It's only on two DVD discs, but it's the full series. It's about modern day Vampires and their masquerade. Described as a cross between the God-Father & Melrose Place.

Based on the table-top Role-Playing-Game called  Vampire the Masquerade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire:_The_Masquerade) and  Vampire the Masquerade : Bloodlines. Unfortunitely, the television series is only pale imitation of what game is.

I started watching this when I got them and fell asleep before the first DVD disc was finished.

I will try again later.

I still have the rest of the Monkey complete boxed set to watch and now I have the Red Dwarf complete boxed set. As well, Red Dwarf: Back to Earth and Red Dwarf: Series X.

Choices, choices. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire:_The_Masquerade_%E2%80%93_BloodlinesThe)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 08 August, 2013, 08:52:35 pm
We're watching Freaks and Geeks again. What kind of colossal, short-sighted, miserable arsehole do you have to be to cancel a show as nigh-on perfect as F&G? It's just astoundingly good, and every single episode stands up to repeated viewings.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 August, 2013, 09:20:52 pm
We're watching Freaks and Geeks again. What kind of colossal, short-sighted, miserable arsehole do you have to be to cancel a show as nigh-on perfect as F&G? It's just astoundingly good, and every single episode stands up to repeated viewings.


I know, it's mad. They broadcast the whole series in Ireland the same time NBC didn't bother.  At least we did something right. Maybe they should've given us Firefly. The follow-up, Undeclared, isn't too bad either.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 08 August, 2013, 11:31:28 pm
Oh so slowly working through Breaking Bad. Just finished Series 2, episode 10. The one where we meet Gus.

I know, I know, I'm behind.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 09 August, 2013, 07:57:42 am
Oh so slowly working through Breaking Bad. Just finished Series 2, episode 10. The one where we meet Gus.

I know, I know, I'm behind.

I've just finished season 3. It's bloody well great.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 09 August, 2013, 12:09:06 pm
Oh so slowly working through Breaking Bad. Just finished Series 2, episode 10. The one where we meet Gus.

I know, I know, I'm behind.

Not a bit of it in the Taylor house hold we're still waiting on Episode 7 series 1!

Loving it so far.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Spikes on 10 August, 2013, 10:23:18 pm
Finished watching the complete Survivors (http://www.survivorstvseries.com/index2.htm) last night.
Thats been three boxsets with four disc's apiece, and its all made for a great bit of viewing the last couple of months - highly recommended.

(Been after the boxsets (http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/132420/Survivors-Complete-Series-1-Box-Set/Product.html?searchstring=survivor+series&searchsource=0&searchtype=r2alldvd&urlrefer=search&strefer=r2alldvd&searchfilters=s%7bsurvivor+series%7d%2bc%7b57%7d%2b), for an age - these particular sets was pricey upon release - over ten years ago, and remained that way.
But managed to snag 'em recently as bargains).

Ive never seen the full run of episodes, so a lot was fresh.
But i'd also caught many before, either on those old BBC video's, online, and showing my age here - from when they was originally broadcast.

Generally, all three seasons are pretty darn good. The third series maybe dips slightly (and with civilisation starting to become re-established, the original concept of the series is effectively over), but still standout episodes abound.
If you can find 'em cheap enough, then treat yourself - a slightly newer, and cheaper BBC boxset is available, if your so inclined.


Now to dust off my other bargain purchase, thats been patiently waiting in the wings....

(http://i.imgur.com/C9LjHFL.jpg)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Greg M. on 10 August, 2013, 10:38:38 pm
'Survivors' is absolutely brilliant - whilst the first series is probably the most lauded, particularly when it comes to episodes like 'Law and Order', 2 and 3 also have some real highlights. Talfryn Thomas as Tom Price in series 1 is superb - about as far a cry from 'Dad's Army's Cheesman as you could get - though you almost wish they'd kept him alive longer after his terrible deed. "He did worse things" indeed. Part of my abiding fondness for the series comes from the fact that I am named (in real life) after one of the principle characters, Ian McCulloch's delightfully taciturn Greg Preston. Apprently McCulloch had plans in place for a fourth series (not featuring Preston, for obvious reasons), though they never manifested.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 21 August, 2013, 10:12:50 am
Oh god, Battlestar Galactica is SOOOOO GOOOOOD.  It's my new crack cocaine of TV.  I can't believe I didn't watch this first time around.  Thank goodness for Netflix - I have all 76 episodes to hand including the mini-series that kicks it all off.

I've been watching it for about a week, and I'm getting through a minimum of 2 episodes a night. 

The most disconcerting thing for me is thinking 'damn, Starbuck is hot!', when previously Starbuck was a male lead played by Dirk Benedict.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 21 August, 2013, 10:33:42 am
Oh god, Battlestar Galactica is SOOOOO GOOOOOD.  It's my new crack cocaine of TV.  I can't believe I didn't watch this first time around.  Thank goodness for Netflix - I have all 76 episodes to hand including the mini-series that kicks it all off.

Just be aware that there are some lows to go with those highs Shaolin, but overall its a fine bit of genre TV.

Season 3's Exodus Part 2 is still probably one of my favorite hours of television. Ever.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 21 August, 2013, 10:36:05 am

Glad you enjoy Battlestar Galactica, hope you like Mr Tigh? He get better in later seasons...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ChickenStu on 21 August, 2013, 08:16:19 pm
Recently re-watched all five seasons of Quantum Leap. First three seasons are ace. Season four had some nice moments but you could see it was running out of steam. Sadly, season five completely jumped the shark/nuked the fridge/whatever it is they say these days, and overall was a steaming pile. And that very last episode... ugh.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: sheldipez on 21 August, 2013, 08:19:56 pm
And that very last episode... ugh.

I liked it!  :o I thought it was a fitting end for the show (not for Dr. Beckett!) :-X

I would have watched any of the rumoured spin-offs they were developing -the one where it was his daughter picking up his work then jumping after him sounded well worth a few hours of anyone's time.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 22 August, 2013, 12:18:18 pm
I was watching Enterprise with Tiny Tips last night and explaining to him how much good will Scott Bakula carried through to his role as Archer as a result of those first 3 seasons of Quantum Leap.

And while not strictly "box set" (it's being shown nightly on Pick TV, we are really enjoying Star Trek: Enterprise.  I'd only ever seen the start of Season 1, the second half of Season 3 and Season 4 before. (and really liked the later episodes - mostly). 

Currently I think we are just into Season 2 and really enjoying it. They don't do much with some of the characters (Hoshi and Travis) but Archer get's by on Bakula's likeability, Trip is a classic of home-spun good ole boy wisdom, Reed the stuffy Brit is good for a laugh, Doctor Phlox could have his own show but the stand out for me is T'Pol - easy on the eye plus a study in exemplary eyebrow acting and innuendo played completely straight. 

It works best when it breaks format ("A night in sickbay" and "The catwalk" both being enjoyable bottle (almost) shows. This probably a good sign that the Star Trek "boldy going" format was actually dead long before this show was greenlit. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 22 August, 2013, 01:20:02 pm
Say what you like about that show, but at least the Borg were an actual menace again and not just emo robots like in Voyager.
For me, Enterprise was at its best in season three when it went for broke and stopped pretending it wasn't Galaxy Quest, though season 4 had a few great moments, like the evil universe episodes, and that episode where the captain had a fistfight with Robocop inside a city that is also a UFO that is also a death ray that is also on Mars, which is sort of undercut as a fun concept when the very next thing that happens is a dead baby, but still - full marks for trying.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 22 August, 2013, 02:18:18 pm
like the evil universe episodes

They were great.
The change to the title sequence was inspired.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 22 August, 2013, 02:46:01 pm
The change to the title sequence was inspired by an alternate-reality episode of Buffy that did the same thing several years earlier.

FTFY.

As I say, Enterprise was at its best when it stopped pretending it was reinventing the wheel and got over itself - exemplified by the time halfway through season three when someone on the writing staff said "fuck yeah, I'm gonna interrupt this season-long genocide story and do a cowboy episode."  A few episodes later when the ship encountered suicide-bombing space-Muslims I recall thinking it must be awesome to have a job where they pay you to be drunk.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 22 August, 2013, 02:57:22 pm
A few episodes later when the ship encountered suicide-bombing space-Muslims I recall thinking it must be awesome to have a job where they pay you to be drunk.

Yer all kindsa nuts Prof, but in a good way.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 22 August, 2013, 02:59:24 pm
Hey, look me in the eye and tell me "Spock is a lady with massive boobs and the captain is Sam Beckett" wasn't a production meeting that started with a nose full of charlie and ended with high fives.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 22 August, 2013, 03:24:15 pm
Good point!  :D
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 22 August, 2013, 11:29:21 pm
Hey, look me in the eye and tell me "Spock is a lady with massive boobs and the captain is Sam Beckett" wasn't a production meeting that started with a nose full of charlie and ended with high fives.

Where in Grud's name is the LIKE button?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 23 August, 2013, 07:56:00 am
Hey, look me in the eye and tell me "Spock is a lady with massive boobs and the captain is Sam Beckett" wasn't a production meeting that started with a nose full of charlie and ended with high fives.

Did you notice those massive boobs suddenly deflated in later seasons?!?  Highly illogical.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 23 August, 2013, 08:47:42 am
Did you notice those massive boobs suddenly deflated in later seasons?!?  Highly illogical.

Pon farr is a complex cycle.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 23 August, 2013, 10:10:27 am
Did you notice those massive boobs suddenly deflated in later seasons?!?  Highly illogical.

Pon farr is a complex cycle.

Yes, and clearly involves silicon, or the sudden lack thereof.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 23 August, 2013, 10:17:23 am
I genuinely never noticed. She did change from that very tight grey brown outfit into a fetching set of coloured catsuits. Maybe they just emphasised other aspects.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 23 August, 2013, 10:19:58 am

Funny that no-one notice she got different haircut in Season 3.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 23 August, 2013, 11:36:08 am
she had hair?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 23 August, 2013, 11:37:06 am
She was a she???
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 24 August, 2013, 07:56:33 pm
I watched that Twenty Twelve. Yes, no, absolutely. Good stuff, very clever, good characters. So that's all good. The bullshit they come out with on this show is both impressive and hilarious. Some great performances, but the delightful Olivia Colman acts circles around everyone.

I just got back my The Prisoner box set, after it having circulated amongst my friends for over three years now. I'll definitely be watching all of that again. I've already watched Do Not Forsake me, Oh My Darling, and it's still stunning. No one speaks a word for the first half hour, there's not even any incidental music for the first ten minutes. If a TV show these days tried something that audacious, the internet would probably cream itself.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 01 September, 2013, 05:45:46 pm
Still watching Attack on Titan. Fucking amazing.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 01 September, 2013, 08:03:43 pm
Still watching Attack on Titan. Fucking amazing.

Go on...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 01 September, 2013, 08:17:54 pm
Still watching Attack on Titan. Fucking amazing.

Go on...
Imagine Mad Max if the apocalypse had occured in the Dark Ages, and the reason for us not knowing any history of that time was due to fucking Giants mindlessly eating 99% of humanity. The remainders where forced to lock themselfs in Skeletors locker (I JOKE!) and rapidly advance militery technology. The result is an alternative history saga that's prity much Japans (to use and obvious comparison) Slaine or Defoe. It moves at a frantic pace but has a well rounded cast and very fluid animations. I highly reccomend it if you haven't given it a shot yet.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 01 September, 2013, 08:33:02 pm

BOARD
WALK
EMPIRE
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 02 September, 2013, 01:33:44 am
The first seasons of Wentworth and King Of The Hill.
Wentworth is a prequel/reboot of Prisoner (Cell Block H), and for those not versed in Antipodean telly of late, let me assure you it is quite representative, being trashy, hysterical and like something you accidentally picked up on your telly after it was struck by lightning and now only receives television from another reality, possibly one where tv is commissioned exclusively by - and for - drag queens.  It's full of effin and jeffin, boobies and lezzing-up, which is a pity as it's that kind of misery porn that older viewers love to watch, especially fans of the original, but for those of us who don't mind fit women licking each other onscreen and superfluous scenes set in kinky nightclubs, this is compelling trash.  Only the final episode to watch now and SUM BITCH GON DIE.
King of the Hill I watched first time around (or near as dammit) for a few episodes, but it wasn't Beavis and Butthead or Simpsons or South Park, so I wandered away from it and only really watched it again for the last season, possibly accidentally as I had resolved to stop watching Family Guy and its spin-offs but still wanted cartoon sitcoms in my life, and I am quite glad I gave it a miss at the time because clearly younger me didn't appreciate how good it could be at times and now I have 13 seasons to catch up on.  Fair enough the final season I watched was nowhere near as sharp as the first season episodes I'm currently enjoying, but even allowing for a Simpsons-style drop in quality that means some potentially fine viewing ahead, at least one episode of which involves Hank becoming a pimp.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 02 September, 2013, 10:34:13 am
Still watching Attack on Titan. Fucking amazing.

Go on...
Imagine Mad Max if the apocalypse had occured in the Dark Ages, and the reason for us not knowing any history of that time was due to fucking Giants mindlessly eating 99% of humanity. The remainders where forced to lock themselfs in Skeletors locker (I JOKE!) and rapidly advance militery technology. The result is an alternative history saga that's prity much Japans (to use and obvious comparison) Slaine or Defoe. It moves at a frantic pace but has a well rounded cast and very fluid animations. I highly reccomend it if you haven't given it a shot yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Titan

Sounds interesting!!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 02 September, 2013, 12:32:28 pm
Still trekking with ENTERPRISE; recent highlights being Trip butting in on the morals of a three gender alien race (not a typical ending!) and a cracking Borg episode.  There was also a fantastically cheesey flashback epiosde where Archer reminesces about the early days of the warp ship programme which hopes to be like "The Right Stuff" but fails because Keith Carradine plays the other Captain as if he's Zap Brannigan.  If you don't have that image in your head, it's almost impossible to enjoy the episode.

And I've started sneaking in SMALLVILLE season 9 in an attempt to finally finish the bugger. By Grud, it's hard work. The only good point of last season, Jimmy Olsen (Sean Ashmore?), isn't in it any more. 

So it's down to the fact I really, really fancy Erica Durance as Lois Lane to keep me going. Really. Fortunately the rest of the aucience and the producers are with me on this given the disgraceful way they treat her character. Is her continued objectification taking a sly dig at me? I'm not sure, keep dressing her up so I can form an opinion. 

By now, Smallville really is set in an alternate reality where everybody speaks in snappy semi-cryptic one-liners, can kick ass in a fight and real world processes (travel, getting jobs, access to high security buildings, hacking complex security systems, everything, in fact) do not exist because a character just needs to have an idea to do something and then magically, it happens.  Did the writers take inspiration from INCEPTION and THE MATRIX but were so charlied up they missed the bit about them being constructed worlds?

And it features the wettest Zod you could imagine.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: sheldipez on 02 September, 2013, 12:37:51 pm
I watched the first four seasons of Smallville, really enjoyed it for the most part (it was a bit ridiculous the amount of different times the writer's had to 1) de-power Clark or 2) mind wipe or change character personailites to fit the stories - it would have been better if the show was 10-15 episode seasons to get rid of some filler) but just didn't continue watching it after the season four finale.

I wouldn't mind getting back to it but it wasn't on Netflix the last time I checked  :'(
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 02 September, 2013, 12:44:17 pm
It's been hard going since Season 4 tbh (and you could argue a point for Season 1!) but I'm going to see it through to the bitter end!

(I have them on DVD and the last two seasons on blu-ray. Tellingly, Seasons 9 and 10 have been sitting unopened for nearly two years).
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: sheldipez on 02 September, 2013, 12:48:08 pm
It's been hard going since Season 4 tbh (and you could argue a point for Season 1!) but I'm going to see it through to the bitter end!

(I have them on DVD and the last two seasons on blu-ray. Tellingly, Seasons 9 and 10 have been sitting unopened for nearly two years).

Then straight onto Season 11 (http://www.comicvine.com/smallville-season-eleven/4050-48550/)?  :D
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 02 September, 2013, 01:01:10 pm
It's been hard going since Season 4 tbh (and you could argue a point for Season 1!) but I'm going to see it through to the bitter end!

(I have them on DVD and the last two seasons on blu-ray. Tellingly, Seasons 9 and 10 have been sitting unopened for nearly two years).

Then straight onto Season 11 (http://www.comicvine.com/smallville-season-eleven/4050-48550/)?  :D


SPOLIERS PLEASE! It looks like, from what's on those comic covers, that Clark turns out to be Superman!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: sheldipez on 02 September, 2013, 01:04:05 pm
It's been hard going since Season 4 tbh (and you could argue a point for Season 1!) but I'm going to see it through to the bitter end!

(I have them on DVD and the last two seasons on blu-ray. Tellingly, Seasons 9 and 10 have been sitting unopened for nearly two years).

Then straight onto Season 11 (http://www.comicvine.com/smallville-season-eleven/4050-48550/)?  :D


SPOLIERS PLEASE! It looks like, from what's on those comic covers, that Clark turns out to be Superman!

A plot twist M. Night Shyamalan would be proud of! I guess only the budget (i.e. imagination of artists) could depict Season 11 when Clark finally becomes Superman.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 04 September, 2013, 12:39:41 pm
Season 9 of Smallville episode RABID.  It's a zombie outbreak episode.  Everything about it - especially the resolution - is almost enough to make me quit watching. 

Oh and while the physical effects remain pretty good as is when they sue CGI for bullet time/super speed stuff, Smallville must have some of the worst CGI effects for things like plane and train crashes that I have ever seen.

(I quite liked the next episode though - some much more fun character stuff)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 04 September, 2013, 05:21:36 pm

Godammit! They made me fall in love with Billie Kent (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6S158_5vLc) and led me to think I know exactly where her story is going - she was as charming as a shit in her audition for her big break in Hollywood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnV3YQeSoNs) - and then they go and slaughter before my adoring eyes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uiqhfBFBx8). Why, I oughta ...

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 04 September, 2013, 05:26:33 pm
I've been doggedly persevering with 'Alias'. For which I deserve a medal... and have been somewhat rewarded.

Seasons 3 and 4 of this show are guff. utter guff. There's loads of dull-witted plotting and some atrociously leaden writing. Thankfully, season 5 - which I had to be cajoled into watching - has seen the show blossom into ACTUAL entertainment.

I still have the uncomfortable feeling that I got from 'Lost', where the writers are basically making big chunks of this up as they go along, and there are some plot elements that feel like they're not ultimately going to go anywhere. But at least the pace has picked up. Elodie Bouchez and Rachel Nichols certainly make the show a good deal more watchable. For me, at least. ;)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 04 September, 2013, 10:09:05 pm
The Starlost, a Harlan Ellison-created sci-fi series from the 1970s about a man, a woman, and a life-sized cardboard cutout of Kier Dullea wandering around an ark ship 800 years in the future visiting "bio domes" that contain various cultures and trying to figure out how to steer the now-crewless ship away from a collision with a star despite being Amish types who can barely read English and keep thinking things like lightbulbs and carpets are devil magic.  Reminds me of Blake's 7 but with lower production values, less action, and either the greatest or worstest mustache in television history.  It is not great, to be honest, and I can see why Ellison took his name off this one, but it reminds me of those daffy mid-80s kids' dramas and distracts me nicely.

Also Flash Gordon, the 2007 tv series that everyone hated.  It is not that terrible, it's just really cheap and the name Flash Gordon does it more harm than good as it'd make a fine low-budget tv series if it was called anything else and people stopped saying they wanted to see terrible model rockets in it or dudes in fake wings or something.  It's not brain science by a long shot, but about a dozen episodes in and it's created a consistent mythology for itself to the point that it's developed an overall arc story that does - as I recall - actually go somewhere and then resolves itself for the not-really-a-cliffhanger finale.  It's a fun show, but its greatest objective problems are the name and the fact that it is accessible and inoffensive when most sci-fi tries very, very hard to be alienating, cliquey and exclusive.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 September, 2013, 10:23:23 pm
It is not great, to be honest, and I can see why Ellison took his name off this one

Any projects that are shit he takes his name off but any that are good he sues to have his name put on (The Terminator). He's a card.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 04 September, 2013, 10:33:46 pm
I keep trying to watch season 4 of Community, but I just can't get through it. 10 minutes into an episode my attention just starts to wander. I don't know how much of my apathy towards it is just my prejudice though.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 04 September, 2013, 11:57:44 pm
I've been doggedly persevering with 'Alias'. For which I deserve a medal... and have been somewhat rewarded.

Seasons 3 and 4 of this show are guff. utter guff. There's loads of dull-witted plotting and some atrociously leaden writing. Thankfully, season 5 - which I had to be cajoled into watching - has seen the show blossom into ACTUAL entertainment.

We stalled about half way through Season 2. It was aces but somehow it just dropped off the watch list.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 05 September, 2013, 03:20:11 am
We stalled about half way through Season 2. It was aces but somehow it just dropped off the watch list.

I think one of the show's biggess problems is that it's badly weighed down with filler and takes an age to ever get anywhere. Ironically, it's around the mid-point of season 2 that things start to pick up.

There's fun to be had with Alias. It's just that there's nowhere near five season' worth of it. How a show like this gets that kind of run, while Firefly gets canned after 13 episodes... egh.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Spikes on 05 September, 2013, 04:48:17 pm
The Starlost, a Harlan Ellison-created sci-fi series from the 1970s about a man, a woman, and a life-sized cardboard cutout of Kier Dullea wandering around an ark ship 800 years in the future visiting "bio domes" that contain various cultures and trying to figure out how to steer the now-crewless ship away from a collision with a star despite being Amish types who can barely read English and keep thinking things like lightbulbs and carpets are devil magic.  Reminds me of Blake's 7 but with lower production values, less action, and either the greatest or worstest mustache in television history.  It is not great, to be honest, and I can see why Ellison took his name off this one, but it reminds me of those daffy mid-80s kids' dramas and distracts me nicely.

Never come across this before - as far as i can recall. But checking it out on YouTube, it does look to be utter tosh. But gloriously so! Keen to watch some more, now.
 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: von Boom on 12 September, 2013, 05:22:28 pm
The Starlost, a Harlan Ellison-created sci-fi series from the 1970s about a man, a woman, and a life-sized cardboard cutout of Kier Dullea wandering around an ark ship 800 years in the future visiting "bio domes" that contain various cultures and trying to figure out how to steer the now-crewless ship away from a collision with a star despite being Amish types who can barely read English and keep thinking things like lightbulbs and carpets are devil magic.  Reminds me of Blake's 7 but with lower production values, less action, and either the greatest or worstest mustache in television history.  It is not great, to be honest, and I can see why Ellison took his name off this one, but it reminds me of those daffy mid-80s kids' dramas and distracts me nicely.

I remember Starlost. They used the same ship model (Valley Forge) as in the Bruce Dern film Silent Running.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 12 September, 2013, 06:36:47 pm
The Starlost, a Harlan Ellison-created sci-fi series from the 1970s about a man, a woman, and a life-sized cardboard cutout of Kier Dullea wandering around an ark ship 800 years in the future visiting "bio domes" that contain various cultures and trying to figure out how to steer the now-crewless ship away from a collision with a star despite being Amish types who can barely read English and keep thinking things like lightbulbs and carpets are devil magic.  Reminds me of Blake's 7 but with lower production values, less action, and either the greatest or worstest mustache in television history.  It is not great, to be honest, and I can see why Ellison took his name off this one, but it reminds me of those daffy mid-80s kids' dramas and distracts me nicely.

I remember Starlost. They used the same ship model (Valley Forge) as in the Bruce Dern film Silent Running.


I don't mean to derail, but Last Exit to Nowhere are discontinuing their Valley Forge design, and are selling the remaining stock at a reduced price:

 http://www.lastexittonowhere.com/shop/product/valley-forge-slim-fit-t-shirt/
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 18 September, 2013, 07:53:00 pm
Starsky and Hutch - complete horseshit, and I can't help myself but watch it.  It's like two grown men making a tv show for their kids so they won't have to watch those awful cop shows currently on tv with all their drug taking and "eff this" and bare ladies everywhere.  The soundtrack is fantastic, though, and I can see why it's been the go-to for three generations of pornographers whenever a young woman (or man, or combination thereof) needs one or more orifice filled onscreen by obliging handymen.  I remember people giving off when the remake movie was shot as a comedy, but based on this, I am not sure how they expected anything else.
Exo Squad is the tops.  A hand-drawn animated toy advertisement from the early 90s - at least I assume there were toys somewhere in the mix given the bright and colourful designs for the characters and technology on display - and though the animation lacks the sophistication of Asian counterparts then or now, the storyline makes up for it, being a serial narrative (rather than episodic standalone stories) set across several years of interplanetary war between humanity and its genetically-engineered slave race the Neo Sapiens, created to terraform Mars before a failed uprising aimed at their emancipation left them hated, brutalised and openly treated like shit even 50 years later.  Right from the off, humanity has it coming, and sure enough their oppressed slaves oblige with a war of genocide that sees Earth, Mars and Venus conquered, millions of humans too frail to work as slaves fired into the sun, and the Earth fleet destroyed - and rather than this being the rallying point for the main characters, things just keep getting worse.  It's like there was a mid-80s Marvel comic based on a toy line and someone went ahead and animated it in its entirety - gruesome, unjust and final deaths of characters included.  It's great fun, and even though I know it's an unfinished story (cancelled in the third season), I can't stop watching.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mardroid on 18 September, 2013, 08:13:57 pm
I'm working my way through the Planet of the Apes box-set at the moment. (The original movies.)

I just finished Beneath the Planet of the Apes last night. A good, slightly strange, sequel. And what a strange downbeat ending!* Not to mention that rather odd voice-over.


I find the acting style a little cheesy and expositiony in these films, but they're still highly enjoyable. I was particularly struck by the slow pace of the first film when compared to many modern films. Or even the sequel for that matter.

Incidentally, this is not my first time watching these films. I've seen them all at some point. It's been a little while since I've watched them all though, and I only bought the box-set relatively recently.

*Don't highlight the spoiler bit bellow if you haven't seen the ending of Beneath the Planet of the Apes. I know that should go without saying, I just want  you to know it's a big spoiler.

I've often wondered, and I'm still not clear, if Taylor's triggering of the Doomsday Bomb at the end was accidental (i.e he falls and his arm happens to be stretched out) , or if he just thought 'drokk it' (or words to that effect) and intentionally triggered it making himself the biggest multi-murderer of all time. (Although he probably saw it as a blessing on the human race considering the state they were in.) By the expression on his face and the way he falls, it could be either way.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Greg M. on 18 September, 2013, 08:42:49 pm
One of the most nihilistic films ever made. As for what Taylor does, I think it's on purpose. I've always felt sorry for Nova in that film - she gets treated appallingly from start to finish.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 18 September, 2013, 08:45:45 pm
One of the most nihilistic films ever made. As for what Taylor does, I think it's on purpose. I've always felt sorry for Nova in that film - she gets treated appallingly from start to finish.

Indeed. There's stuff that they would never get away with now: like in the first film with Taylor laughing at the American flag.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mardroid on 18 September, 2013, 10:20:26 pm
One of the most nihilistic films ever made. As for what Taylor does, I think it's on purpose.

I think you're probably right. One of the things that struck me in the first film in particular is that, despite being the hero of the story, he isn't a particularly nice chap. This goading of one of the other astronauts at the start for example. And what he states to his mates when confronted by the primitive humans "If they're all like this, we could be running the whole planet in a year." (Or words to that effect.) Not so different from the apes he despises later then.

Not that he is just like that. He does show a moral centre too, as is clear in his little speech in the 'captain's log' at the start, and his whole reason for leaving earth in the first place - despair with humanity.

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I've always felt sorry for Nova in that film - she gets treated appallingly from start to finish.

Yes, although it's largely under the control of others. Not that that makes her any less mistreated. There is something rather uncomfortable in the way Brent attacks her, under the mutant control though, kissing and hurting her at the same time. You sort of get the impression he isn't just being controlled as if by remote, but that the mutants are amplifying his own base desires, if that makes sense. Not that I'm suggesting he would ever willingly act in that way.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 18 September, 2013, 11:17:23 pm


It's Spaceballs cause the mess!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD516OENN7s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD516OENN7s)

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 23 September, 2013, 08:14:41 pm
If you have not already, do yourself a favour an read the novel of PotA. It is incredible.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 23 September, 2013, 08:56:01 pm
I've read it and it's not all that, but the framing device/ending was the one Tim Burton should have gone for in his remake, rather than that shit he filmed.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 23 September, 2013, 08:59:47 pm
I've read it and it's not all that, but the framing device/ending was the one Tim Burton should have gone for in his remake, rather than that shit he filmed.

Agree on the Burton comment, but the book is bloody awesome.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mardroid on 24 September, 2013, 03:45:47 am
By PotA novel, do you mean the original novel Monkey Planet that the films are based on? Or a novelisation of the film?

I've read Monkey Planet. It wasn't bad, and the differences with the film were curious. (The Ape* society is pretty modern, contemporary with 20th Century Earth. I like the idea of handholds used to cross busy streets.)

Ultimately this is one of the few instances where I prefer the film to the book though.

*Not monkey!
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Post by: radiator on 25 September, 2013, 10:09:17 am
Having heard good things about it, we decided to give the Netflix original series Orange is the New Black a go last night, and devoured the first two eps in one go. Fantastic stuff!

The premise (based on a book of a true story) is a middle class urbanite finds herself in women's prison when her wild past catches up with her. Much fish out of water calamity ensues as she comes to terms with her surroundings and begins to bond with her fellow inmates. Janeway(?) from Voyager(?) plays the terrifying Russian prison cook, and she's amazing, as is American Pie's Jason Biggs.

Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 25 September, 2013, 10:55:49 am
Just learned Attack on Titan is going to conclude this saterday. I knew the end was nigh but jesus. :o
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 25 September, 2013, 12:39:13 pm
I'm into Season 10 of SMALLVILLE and I'm not ashamed to admit I am actually enjoying it again. It no longer feels like doing homework. The start to Season 9 was dire but I even warmed to Wet Zod by the end.

They finally seemed to have remembered that "Hey, this is a show about how Clark makes the decision to become Superman". 

All the Clark and Lois stuff is great - I think there's some great chemistry between Tom Welling and Erica Durance despite Tom's limited range. The constant tortuous betrayals and character twisty turns seem to have taken a back seat to (there are still some) and we have lighter "Lois gets in a stupid predicament and Supes saves her" plots. But importantly, despite the producers still fetishising the endlessly perky Erica Durance, Lois saves Supes just as often.

"Homecoming" (episode 200) was a particular standout with Braniac 5 (James Marsters) doing "A Christmas Carol"/"It's a Wonderful Life" on a doubtful Kal-El. I just didn't want to leave the "future" segment but when we did, the pay-off in the barn was beautiful.

And Darkseid is the baddie - I'll admit to having read very little with him in it so I'm open to their interpretation.  And I do hope the clone Lex grows into Michael Rosenbaum.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: LorcanQ on 25 September, 2013, 09:57:05 pm
finally got box sets of season 4 and 5(part 1) of breaking bad (dont like streaming it online tbh).... YESSSSSS. just got my wisdom teeth out aswell so im gonna eat this shit up  :D
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Post by: radiator on 03 October, 2013, 11:04:23 am
We have just one episode to go now of Orange is the New Black, and it just gets better. Really, really great stuff - shocking, moving, smart, and often laugh out loud funny. It's so clever how it introduces characters as fairly broad stereotypes, then through fascinating flashbacks reveals how human they are. I really hope season 2 maintains the quality.

Has anyone seen Weeds, which is by the same writer? I've heard good things about it, and it's on Netflix... May have to give it a go.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: GrinningChimera on 05 October, 2013, 09:38:34 pm
Finally caught up with season 3 of Boardwalk Empire. I was worried that the show wouldn't be the same without Jimmy, but this is definetly my favourite season yet. The bit where Richard went all Taxi Driver and killed everyone was epic. I actually found myself yelling at the tv. Actually that probably happens more than it should...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 05 October, 2013, 10:25:02 pm
Finally caught up with season 3 of Boardwalk Empire. I was worried that the show wouldn't be the same without Jimmy, but this is definitely my favourite season yet. The bit where Richard went all Taxi Driver and killed everyone was epic. I actually found myself yelling at the tv. Actually that probably happens more than it should...

What about the bit where Gyp Rosetti started a fight WITH GOD? That was so brilliantly in character, and a variation upon (and escalation of) a scene that had been played out so many times during the series - and I suppose it's as good an explanation of how his story worked out as the subtle unpeeling of the psychology of the character which went on as the series progressed. That ability to use a single narrative to reveal different psychological aspects of multiple characters is what I think makes Boardwalk Empire so special.

Richard Harrow's smooth, impassive face and the tortured, ugly chaos it conceals are the perfect metaphor for what the series reveals about the characters and America itself.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 06 October, 2013, 06:28:18 pm
I've been eyeing the Blu-Rae or DVD of Monty Python's Flying Circus Complete Boxed Set on Ebay (http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.Xmonty+python+flying+circus+complete+boxed+set%3A+blu-rae&_nkw=monty+python+flying+circus+complete+boxed+set%3A+blu-rae&_sacat=0&_from=R40), but won't I won't be spending that much money yet.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 06 October, 2013, 06:34:24 pm
It's much cheaper here (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MONTY-PYTHONS-FLYING-CIRCUS-COMPLETE-SET-NEW-SEALED-/150477010052?pt=AU_DVDsBlurayDiscs&hash=item230920f484), but I'm still not spending that much money just yet.

Besides, I just spent thirty dollars on Warhammer: 40k's Space-Hulk on Steam.

Anyway, can anybody find out if the Complete Monty Python Boxed Set is available on Blu-Rae, because I can't find any.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: GrinningChimera on 08 October, 2013, 07:46:13 am
Got Walking Dead season 3 on the weekend on dvd. It's labour weekend over here on the 26th-28th so I'm gonna throw a Walking Dead marathon and watch all 3 seasons back to back. I told somone at work this and got a funny look as if to say it's not normal or something!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dragonfly on 08 October, 2013, 09:33:08 am
It's much cheaper here (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MONTY-PYTHONS-FLYING-CIRCUS-COMPLETE-SET-NEW-SEALED-/150477010052?pt=AU_DVDsBlurayDiscs&hash=item230920f484), but I'm still not spending that much money just yet.

Besides, I just spent thirty dollars on Warhammer: 40k's Space-Hulk on Steam.

Anyway, can anybody find out if the Complete Monty Python Boxed Set is available on Blu-Rae, because I can't find any.

I don't believe the Monty Python TV series has ever been released on Blu-Ray but I think two of the films have, those two being The Holy Grail and The Life Of Brian. If anyone knows any different then I would love to be corrected!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 12 October, 2013, 11:35:36 pm
So it looks like I'm giving Breaking Bad a second chance. First time round I got bored halfway through the second series. I think I'm just past that point now.

It's a decent programme but I do find myself wondering what I'm missing about it that everyone seems to find so amazing. Does it suddenly get much better at some point?

And when does Skylar become a bitch? So far she's the least cuntish character in the whole show.
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Post by: radiator on 12 October, 2013, 11:47:28 pm
Personally I was grabbed from the very first episode, though it took friends of mine til the end of s2/beginning of s3 to get hooked. I never understood all the apparent hate towards Skyler either - I think she's a great character and actress, and fulfills a vital role in the series.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 12 October, 2013, 11:50:35 pm
So it looks like I'm giving Breaking Bad a second chance. First time round I got bored halfway through the second series. I think I'm just past that point now. It's a decent programme but I do find myself wondering what I'm missing about it that everyone seems to find so amazing. Does it suddenly get much better at some point? And when does Skylar become a bitch? So far she's the least cuntish character in the whole show.

Stick with it; there's great stuff in there, alongside an awful lot of padding. Skylar isn't a bitch, but it's fairly obvious there was no character arc mapped out for her and that none of the writers can think of anything interesting for her to do - so she just ends up moaning a lot and trying to spoil the boys' fun.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 12 October, 2013, 11:56:19 pm
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I never understood all the apparent hate towards Skyler either - I think she's a great character and actress, and fulfills a vital role in the series.

I think she's a great character, but I think the hating comes from the simple fact that she's a woman in the boy's club. Marie also suffers from the same - call it what it is - misogyny.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 13 October, 2013, 01:04:32 am
My problem with Skylar was that she smoked while pregnant just to get back at her husband's slights, which at that point were largely unconfirmed suspicions based on the fact that a recently diagnosed cancer patient wanted a bit of time to themselves - a dick move that for me cast a shadow over her actions to the very end of the show.  That she wanted to spoil "the fun" had nothing to do with my appraisal, though obviously I can't speak for others.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 October, 2013, 01:32:13 am
call it what it is - misogyny.

I get the impression most of the Skyler hate (http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/archive/segment/why-do-people-hate-breaking-bads-skyler-white/521cf66b78c90a630c000163) is coming from the female demographic but maybe that's just the misogynist in me.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Proteus4 on 13 October, 2013, 04:12:12 am
My problem with Skylar was that she smoked while pregnant just to get back at her husband's slights, which at that point were largely unconfirmed suspicions based on the fact that a recently diagnosed cancer patient wanted a bit of time to themselves - a dick move that for me cast a shadow over her actions to the very end of the show.  That she wanted to spoil "the fun" had nothing to do with my appraisal, though obviously I can't speak for others.

I didn't read it like that. What I took from it was that she was under a tremendous amount of pressure and that she snapped for a short period of time.  She maybe wanted to do something that was entirely selfish because that was what Walter was doing, or she may have resented the fact that she was pregnant with his baby and maybe even resented the baby at that point. She only smoked what looked like a handful of fags and only when she was at her lowest ebb. I don't think she did it to get back at Walter, I think she did it coz she was exhausted, sad, lonely and terrified.

I found Skylar to be a strong determined and flawed character, brilliantly acted and totally tragic. The whole Skylar is a bitch thing was just awful dickheads and trolls as far as I'm concerned. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 13 October, 2013, 09:21:53 am
So it looks like I'm giving Breaking Bad a second chance. First time round I got bored halfway through the second series. I think I'm just past that point now.


I watch this sometimes on the FX channel and wonder if he's really the dad from the well known sit-com Malcom in the Middle?

He's still very hard to take seriously if that's the case.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 13 October, 2013, 09:28:02 am
Studio Trigger have a new series, Kill La Kill. Like it's sister, Gurren Lagann, its utter fucking shite that the entire internet seems to be convinced is amazing.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 13 October, 2013, 04:38:04 pm
I found Skylar to be a strong determined and flawed character, brilliantly acted and totally tragic. The whole Skylar is a bitch thing was just awful dickheads and trolls as far as I'm concerned.

I found Gus Fring to be a strong family man with an admirable work ethic.  Clearly those criticising him are racists.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 13 October, 2013, 05:03:22 pm
It's a decent programme but I do find myself wondering what I'm missing about it that everyone seems to find so amazing.

It is a really good TV Show, I just think large portions of the internet forget that's all it is, a TV show.

Also, I thought the fact that the main players were all a shower of despicable hallions was what made Breaking Bad so compelling.

I found them all very interesting, but I'll be damned  if I actually liked any of them.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Steve Green on 13 October, 2013, 05:40:37 pm
It's much more interesting to root for someone you don't (or didn't) particularly like.

A fair few of the characters went through points where I wanted to see them succeed more because of who they were interacting with - and having Walt cross various lines to either protect Jesse or his family kept me rooting for him until the end, even though he'd long been a monster.

It was just that there were worse monsters around him.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Proteus4 on 13 October, 2013, 09:43:27 pm
I found Skylar to be a strong determined and flawed character, brilliantly acted and totally tragic. The whole Skylar is a bitch thing was just awful dickheads and trolls as far as I'm concerned.

I found Gus Fring to be a strong family man with an admirable work ethic.  Clearly those criticising him are racists.

quite right.

Joking aside, it's interesting that we have strong opinions on Skylar smoking (and a lot of people gave off about skylar for smoking at the time too) when we miss the fact that Walter is a total scumbag drug dealer who turns everything he touches to shit.  Skylar's actions were no where near as wicked as Walt's.

peace
Dave
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 13 October, 2013, 09:48:49 pm
I found Skylar to be a strong determined and flawed character, brilliantly acted and totally tragic. The whole Skylar is a bitch thing was just awful dickheads and trolls as far as I'm concerned.

I found Gus Fring to be a strong family man with an admirable work ethic.  Clearly those criticising him are racists.

quite right.

Joking aside, it's interesting that we have strong opinions on Skylar smoking (and a lot of people gave off about skylar for smoking at the time too) when we miss the fact that Walter is a total scumbag drug dealer who turns everything he touches to shit.  Skylar's actions were no where near as wicked as Walt's.

peace
Dave

Yeah, I would sometimes find myself thinking "why are you being a bitch, Skylar?" ... and then I'd remember what a horrible bastard her husband was being to her...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 October, 2013, 09:54:17 pm

You bunch of misogynists can't even spell her name right- it's Skyler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyler_White).
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 13 October, 2013, 11:28:59 pm
Joking aside, it's interesting that we have strong opinions on Skylar smoking (and a lot of people gave off about skylar for smoking at the time too) when we miss the fact that Walter is a total scumbag drug dealer who turns everything he touches to shit.  Skylar's actions were no where near as wicked as Walt's.

No-one is defending Walt because his actions are unquestionably reprehensible.  Skyler, on the other hand, has lots of people suggesting it's fine to give a fetus a birth defect or two if you're feeling stressed out a bit.  I do not agree.  Nor do I agree that someone's gender, ethnicity or status as a disabled person excludes them from objective criticism.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Proteus4 on 13 October, 2013, 11:41:08 pm

You bunch of misogynists can't even spell her name right- it's Skyler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyler_White).

no no no. Its Skylar.  and Waltar.  and Jessa!

Jeepers. learn to spell, mate.  :D

Dave
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 14 October, 2013, 12:43:29 am
Deve

FTFY.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 15 October, 2013, 07:53:10 pm
I watched that Netflix Original Prison Drama, Orange is the New Black.

Overall it's very satisfying, but the show's Achille's Heel is the protagonist. At first she comes across as an immature, thoughtless, unsympathetic narcissist, but as the show progresses, it becomes more obvious that that's what the writers were aiming for. My main problem with her was that she seemed to base her personality and decisions on with whomever she last had a conversation, it seems like a bit of a crutch.

Where the show shines is the rich and varied supporting cast, there's sleazy screws, guards whose good intentions make them incompetent, and inmates from all walks of life. Unhinged crazies, religious fanatics and flakey hippy-dippy former pot farmers and looming over them all Kate "Janeway" Mulgrew as the russian battleaxe who runs the kitchen and ostensibly, the prison. The power dynamics between her and her wardens is where this show really shines, and Mulgrew shows some serious acting chops. That woman could give ye a look that would make yer shite freeze while simultaneously making yer bowels void themselves.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 15 October, 2013, 08:12:56 pm
Mulgrew and Schilling were also in the short-lived shagging doctors soap Mercy together, fact fans.  It wasn't very good, as I recall, but Mulgrew was.  She was also on good form in the Black Donnelys, which can be found in bargain bins for about three quid and is basically what the makers of Peaky Blinders were aiming for when they made their car-crash of a series, though BD didn't have Sam Neil's epic Bayelfaaaaaast accent which is - no bullshit - the only reason I am still watching Peaky Blinders.

"EYE do not trost any of YOUZ, YEW most awall ORN mi trost - AND IT WILL TAK SOME IRONING!"
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 15 October, 2013, 08:26:02 pm
Sam Neil, born in Omagh, canny do a Norn Irish accent? That's shackin, so it is.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Spikes on 16 October, 2013, 04:37:40 pm
Still happily ploughing through my 'Allo 'Allo Secret Army boxset.

(Though rather annoying available copies of the sequel, and future watching fun - Kessler are proving to be so darn expensive  >:(

Grand stuff, but boy the RAF chaps need a slap. No wonder they keep getting caught, or have to be killed by the resistance.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 16 October, 2013, 05:39:37 pm
I watched that Netflix Original Prison Drama, Orange is the New Black.

Overall it's very satisfying, but the show's Achille's Heel is the protagonist. At first she comes across as an immature, thoughtless, unsympathetic narcissist, but as the show progresses, it becomes more obvious that that's what the writers were aiming for. My main problem with her was that she seemed to base her personality and decisions on with whomever she last had a conversation, it seems like a bit of a crutch.

Where the show shines is the rich and varied supporting cast, there's sleazy screws, guards whose good intentions make them incompetent, and inmates from all walks of life. Unhinged crazies, religious fanatics and flakey hippy-dippy former pot farmers and looming over them all Kate "Janeway" Mulgrew as the russian battleaxe who runs the kitchen and ostensibly, the prison. The power dynamics between her and her wardens is where this show really shines, and Mulgrew shows some serious acting chops. That woman could give ye a look that would make yer shite freeze while simultaneously making yer bowels void themselves.

Broadly agree - Schilling is a very good actress - and let's face it a bit of a knockout - but I do think Piper is the weakest character on the show, followed closely by Alex Vause. The show's creator has actually admitted that she used the character of Piper as a 'trojan horse' in order to sell the show to networks.

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"In a lot of ways Piper was my Trojan Horse. You're not going to go into a network and sell a show on really fascinating tales of black women, and Latina women, and old women and criminals. But if you take this white girl, this sort of fish out of water, and you follow her in, you can then expand your world and tell all of those other stories. But it's a hard sell to just go in and try to sell those stories initially. The girl next door, the cool blonde, is a very easy access point, and it's relatable for a lot of audiences and a lot of networks looking for a certain demographic. It's useful."

http://www.npr.org/2013/08/13/211639989/orange-creator-jenji-kohan-piper-was-my-trojan-horse (http://www.npr.org/2013/08/13/211639989/orange-creator-jenji-kohan-piper-was-my-trojan-horse)

The stars of the show for me were the other inmates - the 'Miss Claudette' arc was especially moving and, ultimately, heartbreaking. I loved how characters were introduced almost as caricatures (the crazy one, the religious lunatic, the terrifying Russian chef etc), but then fleshed out and humanised in a very satisfying way as the season progressed. I adored the supporting cast - there's some truly incredible acting talent on this show - some future superstars in there for sure. I'm hoping season 2 will go further in this direction and away from the soapy/far-fetched 'lesbian love triangle' aspect.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JamesC on 19 October, 2013, 06:17:03 pm
I've been watching lots of Star Trek TNG. Season five is currently airing on SyFy and this is the first time I've seen any of these since they were first on BBC 2.
My favourite character is Ensign Ro - she's believably competent and has a hard edge that most of the characters lack. She also has a certain amount of vulnerability - she's very well portrayed by the actress.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 19 October, 2013, 07:13:28 pm
TNG seasons 5 to 7 is why I love it.

Still some real stinkers in there but it's what cemented the geek in me.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 21 October, 2013, 06:30:36 pm
Sam Neil, born in Omagh, canny do a Norn Irish accent? That's shackin, so it is.

He was originally deported to Australia, his accents are that criminal.

Homeland, which is basically 24 without the invincible Jack Bauer at the center of things, although it is just as daft, lacking in sympathetic characters and prone to dedicating far too much screen time to the misadventures of children of the main cast as 24 was.  I caught up with the first four episodes of the current (third) season and it's changed tack a bit from previous seasons to be a bit Chaos Day-Dredd-ish with the normally monolithic CIA element reduced to a shadow of its former self in the wake of a large-scale terrorist atrocity, but the first four eps make a good mini-arc with a decent twist at the end to disguise some glaringly obvious plot deficiencies and what seems essentially to be some sort of running theme about ladies with daddy issues that I am not entirely sure would be present if we were watching a show focused more on male protagonists.  Still, it's worth a punt if you haven't already.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 21 October, 2013, 09:29:44 pm
Well, I've made it to the end of the second series of Breaking Bad and, on the way, found a couple of characters to unequivocally root for. Sadly, Walt's already killed one of them but it looks like Saul will be in it for the long haul. His cheerful crookedness is a welcome respite from the anguished shouting elsewhere.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 21 October, 2013, 09:56:54 pm
Stephen Fry on Out There. A very heart warming and often shocking look at how homosexuality is viewed in western and 3rd world nations. Say what you will about Fry as an intellectual, he has hit the nail on the head here. As an open Bisexual whose currently in a relationship with another guy, I can honestly say ive been the victem of a lot of nasty cooment and a bit of physical vioence (nothing I couldnt fight back against naturaly) and doggedly support the LGBT community in its war against stereotyping and misconception,which is exactly what Fry goes out to do in these two episodes. He challenges the bigoted beliefs and ill informed opinions masquerading as facts held by politicians and the public alike.

Then I go and read this piece of shit article. It gets even worse in the comments section.
http://digitaljournal.com/article/360276#tab=comments&sc=0
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 21 October, 2013, 10:22:01 pm
It gets even worse in the comments section.

The internet in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 21 October, 2013, 10:33:15 pm
Well, They look to have gone and deleted all the comments. How surprising. ::)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 21 October, 2013, 10:51:50 pm
Those comments must really have been something if the people who published an article that describes corrective rape as "propaganda" thought they went too far.  I liked the way the article presents facts, too "there weren't that many people killed for being gay" being a favorite, alongside "he was only fined for being gay".  I also like how the writer describes wanting to murder gay people as being little more than a lack of common sense.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 23 October, 2013, 12:56:13 pm
In other news...

I made it to the end of SMALLVILLE.

I made it to the end of SMALLVILLE.

All TEN Seasons.  It didn't end quite the way I wanted it to (or how most sensible people would have written it) but we still got to see just enough of Tom Welling in the suit (and nice happy endings shown for most characters) to leave me with a big grin on my face. And it was great to see Aaron Ashmore - just about the best thing in Season 8 (and Season 7?) back briefly.

I'd be interested to know if there was some legal reason we didn't get a proper full length body shot of Tom in the suit? Or was it just that they couldn't go to the expense of designing a new Supes suit and/or couldn't face the internet frothing that would follow?



Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 23 October, 2013, 01:04:15 pm
Those comments must really have been something if the people who published an article that describes corrective rape as "propaganda" thought they went too far.

I think its quite the reverse. Many where anti-homophobic comments, which where then undercut (and subsequently deleted) by this "journalist".
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 27 October, 2013, 06:34:57 pm
I'm one episode from finishing season 2 of Breaking Bad, and I've been pleasantly surprised by this show.

Having seen people in my life ruin themselves with drug use, I was sincerely concerned that this show would glamourise the drug scene, and as such, I really had to have my arm twisted to sit down and watch the show. But the depiction of the low down, scummy, horrible existence drug abuse leads to is very credible indeed.

It's also a great show. I'm not sure as yet why it's won such wide acclaim, as I don't really see anything mind-blowing there. But it's very well acted, and I like the aspect of it where you can see trouble coming sometimes way ahead fo the characters.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 27 October, 2013, 07:03:18 pm
I'm one episode from finishing season 2 of Breaking Bad

I'm finally about to start watching the second half of the final season. I may be gone for some time.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 27 October, 2013, 07:06:11 pm
I started season 5 last night but I've already had the ending ruined while reading some comments about the end of Dexter on a 'Dexter' Facebook page, unbelievable!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 27 October, 2013, 07:12:44 pm
To be fair, if you were going to come across spoilers anywhere, it'd be on a fan page where people were discussing the show - I learned that the hard way when someone told me that Clark Kent becomes Superman at the end of Smallville.  If it's any help, though, the ending of Dexter is utterly leftfield and has no precedent in anything leading up to that point, so knowing the destination won't really ruin the journey in this case.


Moderator edit for spoilers
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 27 October, 2013, 07:17:05 pm
The current talk is of Breaking Bad and that is what I'm on about and the ending of that was talked about on the Dexter page.
I wouldn't ever look for stuff on what I'm actually still watching.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 27 October, 2013, 08:39:25 pm

SPOILER FREE! I promise to tread lightly. Season 5, episode nine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Money_%28Breaking_Bad%29). The trademark teaser flash-forward - revealing graffiti, hilarious neighbour reaction, and all that they imply - was a welcome and reassuring touch.

Walt's obsessive and pernickety discussion of air freshener placement at the car wash reminds you that the loser science teacher you met in episode one of the first season and the guy who has murdered half the supporting cast are the same person, and that the aspects of Walt's personality which meant he picked on Gale until he could fire him and saw him chasing that fly all over Fring's lab are symptomatic of the tragic flaw (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamartia) that both got him where he is and that will be his undoing.

Jessie's acting entirely within the established pattern of his behaviour too; doomed to repeat the same cycle of cleaning himself up, getting his shit together, and then self destructing because his guilt and self hatred mean he can't bear to see himself happy. The stoned Star Trek conversation was priceless.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JudgeE1M1RT on 28 October, 2013, 11:58:32 am
Started watching Breaking Bad yesterday.

And now I'm on the third episode of season 2.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Proteus4 on 29 October, 2013, 01:05:17 am
Started watching Breaking Bad yesterday.

And now I'm on the third episode of season 2.

it should come with a health warning - dont start watching this if you have other things you need to do!  :D

Dave
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: GrinningChimera on 29 October, 2013, 01:54:50 am
I've just begun my Walking Dead marathon. About 3 episodes into season 1 so far. After spending the weekend watching blu-rays (Alien Saga - The Last Stand - Sherlock Seasons 1 + 2 - Silent Hill 2 : can you say no life?) it's suddenly very noticeable how much better blu-ray is than DVD. The whole of the first episode was almost unwatchable just because of the sheer drop in picture quality. I'm getting used to it now though, but it has made me reconsider re-buying everything again on blu-ray.

The last episode of Sherlock season 2 was some of the best T.V I've seen in ages. From the opening with the "clockwork orange music" (I'm sure it's got a real name but that's what I know it as/from) to the ending which had me YELLING at the TV. I really hope that Moriarty is alive.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 29 October, 2013, 11:37:46 am
Started watching Breaking Bad yesterday.

And now I'm on the third episode of season 2.

Yeah it'll do that. We recently bought season 1 for some friends of ours, and two days after they received it they were asking around if anyone had season 2 they could borrow!

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dont start watching this if you have other things you need to do!

Several people I know are almost pathologically against watching Breaking Bad - partly because everyone droning on about it the whole time has actually put them off, and partly because they 'don't have time'. Thing is, what I always say to this is when you're hooked, you'll make time!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 14 November, 2013, 07:45:55 pm
Nope, can't do it.

Still can't make it through a single episode of Community season 4 without my head sinking solemnly into my hands. It's almost utterly devoid of the sharpness, charm and wit that defined it for those first three seasons. As much as I try to go in with an open mind, the standard of jokes are exactly the kind of thing you'd expect from lowest-common denominator gash like The Big Bang Theory - just dressed up as a single camera sitcom.

I'm genuinely baffled how anyone who claims to be a fan of the show could defend it on any level. Even the excellent cast can't elevate such lame material. There's even one point - where Annie screams "I HATE REFERENCE HUMOUR!" - that feels like almost like a very ill-advised swipe at the previous seasons.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 14 November, 2013, 08:02:23 pm
Every time I watched an episode of that season I was surprised by Troy and Brita's relationship. Every time. That's how memorable it was.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 14 November, 2013, 08:18:27 pm
It really makes you realise that, while some episodes in those first three seasons were stronger than others (season one certainly takes a good long while to really find its feet), I actually don't think there's a single weak or downright unfunny joke in all 70-odd episodes, so it's really jarring and weirdly repulsive watching season 4 and seeing jokes crash and burn left right and centre. It just feels so wrong!

They Britta'd it.

It reminds me of Modern Family. While it was never a serious contender for 'greatest sitcom of all time', I thought the first two seasons were surprisingly strong - a little derivative, but warm, authentic and genuinely funny. And then it just completely went off a cliff between seasons two and three, and no one seemed to notice. I even checked to see if there'd been any major staff or writing team changes, but it just looks like they won a few awards and got complacent. Even Friends had four or five decent series before they got lazy and started phoning it in.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 14 November, 2013, 08:39:48 pm
Just watched episode 4, and the Germans from the foosball episode are brought back... so loads of unfunny, borderline-offensive WWII jokes can be made at their expense. Oh deary me.

And Jeff keeps openly referring to the study group as his 'family' and talking about his feelings....!!!!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 14 November, 2013, 08:47:28 pm
Yeah, and Jeff's heartfelt and inspirational speeches seem to be genuinely heartfelt and inspirational. It's all wrong.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 14 November, 2013, 09:00:10 pm
The stuff with Jeff's Dad was especially awful - all that careful buildup squandered so thoughtlessly. Apparently Dan Harmon had always wanted Bill Murray to play the role, which would have been insanely good - I feel like Murray's comedic style would have really gelled with the show's sensibilities. Guess that'll never happen now.

Funny how the new show-runners tried to make the show more accessible and the characters more likable, and ended up doing the exact opposite. All these dated anti-German jokes. Sheesh.

All the pop-culture reference stuff seems really forced too. In the old series, they used that stuff to tell real, emotional stories about the relationships and group dynamics in interesting ways. So far this series it all feels really shoehorned-in and awkward.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 14 November, 2013, 11:26:19 pm
I was going to pitch in that I didn't find much particularly objectionable about season 4 and a lot of objections may have been influenced by people's opinions on the departure of Dan Harmon, but then I remember Chang this season.  And that I didn't bother watching the rest of this season.
To be fair, though, German jokes are relevant among the under-40s because they (Germans) have become synonymous with dance culture, mid-80s synth-pop references and being villains in action films thanks to a generation of popular entertainment eating its own arsehole with references to the trends followed in the youth of those making it.  Basically Family Guy is to blame.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 14 November, 2013, 11:45:19 pm
Nah, I've watched a fair few eps now and I can say with some confidence that season 4 is pretty much tortuous. It's not the worst thing I've ever seen - you can tell they're at least trying, and a couple of moments even raised a smile - but it's a monumental cliff-dive in quality, and made me cringe more than it did laugh. I read a review on amazon that said there were less good jokes in the entire season than in one episode of the Harmon era, and I'd have to agree. It's like an awkward, clumsy cover-version. They hang entire episodes on comedic conceits that would have been throwaway jokes in previous seasons. And they've really neutered Jeff - no wonder McHale was the one to pull the strings to get Harmon back on board for s5. At least the setup of the series is kind of fluid so they'll be able to write around and retcon a lot of this dross.

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(Germans) have become synonymous with dance culture, mid-80s synth-pop references and being villains in action films thanks to a generation of popular entertainment eating its own arsehole with references to the trends followed in the youth of those making it

But jokes about WWII? In 2013? Really? I don't want to draw too much attention to that one aspect, but it seemed very distasteful and unCommunity-like to me.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 15 November, 2013, 12:23:14 pm
But jokes about WWII? In 2013? Really? I don't want to draw too much attention to that one aspect, but it seemed very distasteful and unCommunity-like to me.

And it's not Alf Garnett/David Brent/Alan Partridge? You are meant to laugh at the person making the jokes not the jokes?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 15 November, 2013, 05:27:14 pm
Yeah Season 4 is a mess, with this exception of a funny episode written by Jim Rash and the brilliant Matt Lucas it just tries too hard and squanders a lot of good build-up. The finale was ridiculous, the forced puppet-episode was awful and the awkward attempt to "normalise" Abed with a cringy romance plot was heartbreakingly off-message. Can't wait for its return with Harmon etc - although will miss Donald Glover.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 15 November, 2013, 05:50:59 pm
Everything I've seen of it so far just felt totally, totally 'off'. The big, apparently network-mandated emotional moments felt totally OTT and unearned. Despite what those moronic execs think, Community has always been a show with a big heart, it just did those moments with a bit more humour and subtlety, or subverted them to not let things get too saccharine.

What's very odd is it seems like they deliberately changed the character of Jeff to make him more 'appealing' to a wider audience, then they go and do loads of pandering, fan-service heavy episodes like the cringeworthy Inspector Spacetime convention one that would only be of interest to long-time fans. Feels like a lot of hands pulling in different directions behind the scenes.

Agree about Lucas - it's a shame he didn't get to appear in a better episode. And Rash too, who is always great. I haven't got to his episode yet, but might just skip ahead to that one and have done with it.

Anyway, just started watching Season 1 of Parks and Recreation.

It's pretty good - I like it. Very good cast. Nothing amazing so far, but I've heard it gets better as it goes.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 17 November, 2013, 11:28:31 am
Ages ago I bought the complete 1959-1964 run of The Twilight Zone, off an ebay seller. They've been sitting on the shelf ever since unwatched, other than showing the kids 'The Howling Man' and 'The After-Hours' a couple of Halloweens ago.

This week, I received in the post a couple of early Gold Key Twilight Zone comics- and to my surprise, they were excellent. The Gold Key house format still somewhat puts me off, but the stories were fun and clever, and neither shat on the legacy of the great tv show. Inspired by this, I began to dip into the tv episodes for the first time in a decade, wondering if they were still as good as I remembered. Last night I watched 'An Occurrence At Owl Creek Bridge' (Civil War soldier escapes a hanging and makes his way home- famously the "last" TZ and the only one they bought in from outside, not producing themselves), 'The Invaders' (In a farmhouse out in the sticks an old woman fights a battle against action-figure-sized robot aliens who land in their tiny flying saucer) and 'Mr Dingle, The Strong' (in which Burgess Meredith is a weakling vacuum cleaner salesman suddenly given the power of a superman by the Best Alien On TV Ever).

Did I worry they wouldn't stand up? Nah, not at all- TZ is the single greatest television show in history. It helped that two of the above episodes mentioned I'd never seen- having somehow missed them during Channel Four's late-night repeats during the early to mid eighties. But Mr Dingle still reduced me to tears- mirth and nostalgia equally. Burgess Meredith, you were as close as this planet ever got to a god walking upon it. Next up: 'Time Enough At Last'.

SBT
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JOE SOAP on 17 November, 2013, 11:48:58 am
TZ is the single greatest television show in history.


Aye; the variety of stuff is incredible and so many to re-visit in the box-set. I have fond memories of the Channel 4 repeats and ones that stick out are Walking Distance (a weary businessman returns to his childhood town), A Hundred Yards Over the Rim (man from the 1900's wanders into the future and finds medicine for his sick son) , The Lonely (a murderer on a prison-planet falls in love with a female robot), Miniature (A loner (Robert Duvall) falls in love with a doll in a dollhouse) and many, many more. I like the 80's re-boot as well.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 17 November, 2013, 02:58:02 pm
It's hard to overstate how great so much of Twilight Zone really was - even in some of its later guises, but especially in the 60's run.  I often find I'm disappointed in so much modern SF/genre TV just because they seem to spread the same number of ideas over an entire season (or several) as TZ managed in an hour, or they just drop the ball in terms of message or resolution in favour of character-focused rmelodrama in a way that TZ seldom did.  Mind you, I feel the same way about SF novels versus short stories. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 18 November, 2013, 10:26:15 am
The remastered Blu-ray editions of the 60's Twilight Zone released a coupla years ago are some of my my prized discs.
There were so many episodes I'd never seen before, not to mention the high re-watch factor.
Rod Serling...ye were a God among men.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 18 November, 2013, 12:00:12 pm
A Hundred Yards Over the Rim (man from the 1900's wanders into the future and finds medicine for his sick son)

Wasn't there a future shock ripped off inspired by that? Except it was a modern traveller who finds a some 19th c pioneers - I remember them calling coke a s'strange nectar' - he gives them some antibiotics (which he just happened to have on him)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Spikes on 18 November, 2013, 04:17:53 pm
Indeed. I fancy it was drawn by Redondo, but ive not got my progs at hand...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 18 November, 2013, 04:33:13 pm
Picked up the complete Dollhouse in my local Blockbuster's 'so long and thanks for all the fish' sale.

I had been warned that the opening of this series was weak. But, my goodness, that felt unusually vapid.

I have faith that Whedon will turn it around, though.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 18 November, 2013, 04:35:06 pm
Rod Serling's life story is worth a gander, if you can.  I like how he used to go wandering in one of his old jobs, having daydreams for fantasy stories trying to sort out how he'd write them and make the plots work in his head much to the despair of his co-workers - US servicemen deployed in "The Death Squad", a notoriously high-casualty platoon whose fatality rate once reached a record low of 50 percent.  His adventuring came to an end when he took an arrow to the knee - no, really.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Ancient Otter on 18 November, 2013, 11:13:39 pm
Rod Serling's life story is worth a gander, if you can.  I like how he used to go wandering in one of his old jobs, having daydreams for fantasy stories trying to sort out how he'd write them and make the plots work in his head much to the despair of his co-workers - US servicemen deployed in "The Death Squad", a notoriously high-casualty platoon whose fatality rate once reached a record low of 50 percent.  His adventuring came to an end when he took an arrow to the knee - no, really.

Thanks for the tip - I had a flick through Wikipedia and was amazed he even lived long enough after the war to create The Twilight Zone.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 November, 2013, 11:46:01 pm
Rod Serling's life story is worth a gander, if you can.  I like how he used to go wandering in one of his old jobs, having daydreams for fantasy stories trying to sort out how he'd write them and make the plots work in his head much to the despair of his co-workers - US servicemen deployed in "The Death Squad", a notoriously high-casualty platoon whose fatality rate once reached a record low of 50 percent.  His adventuring came to an end when he took an arrow to the knee - no, really.


It's worth watching the feature documentary: Submitted for your approval (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kZcHylU2t8).

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 19 November, 2013, 08:46:35 am
It's worth watching the feature documentary: Submitted for your approval.

Fascinating (if overworked) stuff, that.  Interesting to see the very same external constraints and pressures that shaped and elevated Star Trek and 2000AD at work in Sterling's career - a need to slip the good stuff under the radar of the commercial and morality police by using allegory. And robots. 

I had no idea that Sterling wrote Requiem for a Heavyweight -  never seen his Jack Palance original (although the clips here make it look ace), but I love the Anthony Quinn/Mickey Rooney movie version.

And such cool interviewees in there!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 20 November, 2013, 12:55:40 pm
Due to the fact it clashed with Downton Abbey (Mrs. Primes fav show) over the past few months, I hadn't seen any of 'Love / Hate' season 4.
Got the box-set there at the weekend, and gorged on all 6 episodes.

For me, bringing the perspective of the Gardai into play was a brilliant idea, and really made for a more satisfying show.
Didn't hurt that the excellent Brian F. O'Byrne was chewing scenery like it was the top of a Bic pen.

The seemingly insurmountable forces stacking up against Nidge's gang had a decent pay-off, and I was very happy to hear the series has been renewed for another year.

Ireland's answer to The Wire? Not quite- but it's getting there.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 20 November, 2013, 01:18:37 pm
Just watched an episode of Never Mind the Buzzcocks where Huey Morgan through a strop and nearly took out Phil Jupitus's eye out with a mug. The guy knows his music, but he seriously can not take a joke.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 20 November, 2013, 01:25:50 pm
Yeah I saw that, what was the deal there?

I think he was getting agitated at Rizzle Kicks which is fair enough but he definitely comes off worse than them!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 20 November, 2013, 01:48:08 pm
He claims to have become a bit embittered by how formulaic the series has got. I mean, I still enjoy it immensely, but it sure hasn't changed much in years. Still, no excuse to let a game get to you and get all uppity.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 20 November, 2013, 02:53:44 pm
Picked up the complete Dollhouse in my local Blockbuster's 'so long and thanks for all the fish' sale.

I had been warned that the opening of this series was weak. But, my goodness, that felt unusually vapid.

I have faith that Whedon will turn it around, though.

I see what you did there  ::)

I think you made a pun, when you mentioned Faith. As in the other Slayer character from the third or fourth season of Buffy the Vampire-Slayer.

I was wondering if you did that on purpose.

She's in Dollhouse as well.

Though I never got into that show or Firefly

I follow that actress on twitter.

Who ever she is.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Bobblehead on 20 November, 2013, 03:40:46 pm

 Just bought Breaking Bad Season 1 to see what all the fuss is about. Only watched 3 episodes in and im loving it already,will watch a couple more tonight. I agree with people who say its well acted,well written and tragic/funny at the same time.

 Also watching Bates Motel on catch-up,watched episodes 4-9 last week and the ex-missus is coming round tonight to watch the finale and some more Breaking Bad with me.
 
My daughter Amelia is currently watching Scooby Doo and Chip n' Dale cartoons. These are 'amazing' and Scooby Doo is 'scary'. We watched the whole 2 seasons of Mystery Incorporated together (about 52 episodes), i was quite impressed,it was funny and clever at times with knowing winks for the grown ups about certain films (Hellraiser and Terminator) and jokes about the old shows (Flim-Flam is doing 20years for theft atm and Scrappy Doo- 'we dont talk about him')
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 21 November, 2013, 08:22:50 pm
While trying to decide whether Breaking Bad 3 or Buffy 5 is more deserving of my attention, I find myself halfway through I, Claudius.

Bloody Hell, it's good. While I vaguley remember it being on tv when I was a kid, I don't think I've ever sat down to watch it as an adult. I can imagine the odd modern person being put off by the staginess and some of the shrill screaming but it don't bother me guv. Amongst the obvious amusement at seeing young versions of bigger names (Captain Picard with hair!), it's particularly fascinating to see that Brian Blessed was once a real  actor.

Also interesting that, while both the history itself and the talk centres around the male stars, it's Sian Phillips' Livia who rules here. Some nicely arch dialogue in places which would probably just be replaced with the sex being alluded to. Plenty more bloody action to look forward to with Nero and Caligula just coming of age.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Ghost MacRoth on 21 November, 2013, 08:29:01 pm

 Just bought Breaking Bad Season 1 to see what all the fuss is about. Only watched 3 episodes in and im loving it already,will watch a couple more tonight. I agree with people who say its well acted,well written and tragic/funny at the same time.

Just watched the end of season 5, damn I envy you having it all new and unseen before you! Excellent series, brilliant cast, cracking scripts. Loved every minute of it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 21 November, 2013, 08:35:27 pm
We watched the whole 2 seasons of Mystery Incorporated together (about 52 episodes), i was quite impressed,it was funny and clever at times with knowing winks for the grown ups about certain films (Hellraiser and Terminator) and jokes about the old shows (Flim-Flam is doing 20years for theft atm and Scrappy Doo- 'we dont talk about him')

I was more impressed that they got a gay Velma in there without it being the punchline to a joke, and that the series became a prequel for every other version of Scooby Doo ever by doing a crossover with Twin Peaks.  The clever way it utilises Christianity (specifically Catholicism) as a force for good throughout the gang's meta-arc of a quest for secular truth is both commendable and virtually unique in sci-fi outside the odd episode of the Twilight Zone, too - "all things can be forgiven" still gets me right here.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 21 November, 2013, 11:07:47 pm
I find myself halfway through I, Claudius.

Bloody Hell, it's good.

It really is, I watch it every couple of years and I'm always bowled over.  I fantasise about a future version where all the performances are retained but the exterior sets replaced with expansive and seamless CGI, and the big set-piece spectacles of the books are inserted.  This is a perfect version where all that works, obviously, and not the one we'd actually get, which would be awful.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Greg M. on 22 November, 2013, 03:52:17 pm
I do love I, Claudius. It took me a couple of goes to get through the lengthy first episode, but once Ian Ogilvy (one of my favourite actors ever) had popped up, I had my in-roads and was hooked. After that, it just got better and better. It goes without saying that John Hurt, clearly in the midst of one of the purplest patches of any actor's career, probably steals the show during his reign as Caligula. The interplay between he and Jacobi is fantastic - I was amazed they got away with broadcasting his most infamous moment.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Charlie boy on 22 November, 2013, 04:07:06 pm
I'm going to start buying The Shield boxsets; never watched it but I've heard it goes great once Kurt Sutter is promoted as the man in charge. Anybody here actually watch it when it was on channel5 a few years back?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 22 November, 2013, 04:20:24 pm
... I was amazed they got away with broadcasting his most infamous moment.

Yeah, even from the vantage point of 2013 it's as shocking a piece of telly as there's ever been.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 23 November, 2013, 05:24:00 pm
I am currently watching all Star Trek ToS for the first time.

Although I am led to believe the show was a pioneer in terms of equality attitudes it still suffers from being a product of it's time.  It is still very chauvinistic.  It does appear to be trying nonetheless and it's chauvinism isn't as bad as some modern media equivalents and it at least has an excuse of being the aforementioned product of it's time.  That aside, it's quality is better than what I had been led to believe through many a Star Trek cliche.  It's not good quality though.  It's fun watching Shatner actually developing his terrible over acting he is renowned for over time.  The pauses in his sentences are slowly but surely getting longer and longer. 

There are some nice ideas being presented (and often repeated several times over) that could be fleshed out and modernised.  This has me thinking about the rebooted Battlestar Galactica which I loved watching.  When I have finished with ToS I may go onto the original Battlestar Galactica - avoiding Galactica 1980.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 23 November, 2013, 06:45:07 pm
Roddenberry deliberately reined-in the overt gender and racial equality of the show because when he tried to make it too blatant (in the original pilot The Cage), the network passed on the show, citing among other things that the ship's first officer was a woman and this meant that whenever the captain was off having adventures in the course of any hypothetical series that she'd be in charge of the ship and everyone on it.  Paradoxically, they also complained that the green lady slave type was offensive, so eventually the series settled on a middle ground of just having women - and non-Caucasians - around but never going into details, while individual scriptwriters could choose to go forward from that as they saw fit.
For the most part, just being present and visible in the background was a huge leap forward for equality in the era as the Enterprise was a defacto military ship and miniskirts or not the female crew-members were serving military officers.  Just take a look at other sci-fi of the era like Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Land of the Giants or Lost In Space and how they portrayed women - if at all.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 23 November, 2013, 07:21:05 pm
Roddenberry deliberately reined-in the overt gender and racial equality of the show because when he tried to make it too blatant (in the original pilot The Cage), the network passed on the show, citing among other things that the ship's first officer was a woman and this meant that whenever the captain was off having adventures in the course of any hypothetical series that she'd be in charge of the ship and everyone on it.  Paradoxically, they also complained that the green lady slave type was offensive, so eventually the series settled on a middle ground of just having women - and non-Caucasians - around but never going into details, while individual scriptwriters could choose to go forward from that as they saw fit.
For the most part, just being present and visible in the background was a huge leap forward for equality in the era as the Enterprise was a defacto military ship and miniskirts or not the female crew-members were serving military officers.  Just take a look at other sci-fi of the era like Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Land of the Giants or Lost In Space and how they portrayed women - if at all.

Hence "product of it's time", "It does appear to be trying" and "isn't as bad as some modern media equivalents".
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 23 November, 2013, 07:28:06 pm
Now you leave Battlestar Galactica alone - for all we know there maybe just wasn't a whole lot of tv shows about sex robots and we really needed another one.

And there's really no need to be defensive, I was joining the debate rather than derailing it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 23 November, 2013, 07:49:31 pm
Now you leave Battlestar Galactica alone - for all we know there maybe just wasn't a whole lot of tv shows about sex robots and we really needed another one.

I don't understand what you mean here.  You're going to have to explain this one for me, please.

Quote
And there's really no need to be defensive, I was joining the debate rather than derailing it.

Fine. Join the debate, there's really no need to be defensive about my replies :)

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dr Feeley Good on 23 November, 2013, 08:27:18 pm
I'm going to start buying The Shield boxsets; never watched it but I've heard it goes great once Kurt Sutter is promoted as the man in charge. Anybody here actually watch it when it was on channel5 a few years back?
first couple of series are great, dips a bit then goes really good again when Forrest Whittaker comes into it
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 25 November, 2013, 03:53:23 pm
After a hectic weekend, I'm now three episodes into Dollhouse and I really don;t care for it so far.

Weakly written, limp episodic fluff. Well, okay the second episode had a bit more muscle to it, but so far, this is pretty lame. Not actually sure if I can be bothered to stick it out and see if the stories I hear about it improving dramatically are true. This show just feels completely vacant.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 25 November, 2013, 04:07:25 pm
Dollhouse has been recommended to me countless times and I still haven't managed to muster up enough enthusiasm to give it a go.  The concept just doesn't excite me enough.  I find it a bit off putting, to be honest.

Although when I get recommendations they usually turn out to be worthwhile, eg.  Battlestar Galactica (reboot), Game of Thrones and the absolutely fantastic The Wire.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 26 November, 2013, 02:36:00 pm
I'm literally choking on my biscuits at the suggestion that Shatner was "crap" in Trek! That's a muddleheaded piece of nonsense spread by terrible stand up comedians back in the nineties,and endlessly copied and repeated by office bores trying to appear cool and funny in front of the latest sexy temp. Shatner's Kirk is an incredible creation- undeniably the most famous hero in a'll of science fiction, and utterly believable from start to his end. Shatner is a great actor anyway- check out 'nightmare at 20000 feet' for more of this. What always makes me laugh about trekkers who have a go at Shatner, is that they then claim Patrick Stewart is "a good actor". Let me make this very clear: he is not. But he very very much thinks he is.

SBT
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 26 November, 2013, 03:00:49 pm
Kirk is rightly an icon, but I think what I found most grating about NuTrek is that Chris Pine doesn't have that smarmy, sleazy porn-star charm that Shatner does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAvRBDQqSmY
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 26 November, 2013, 03:38:36 pm
I can't say I'm overly impressed by Star Trek ToS.  Some episodes are enjoyable, some a laughable and some a just plain awful.  So far, at the end of series 2, I can say that it's better than what I expected but not by a great deal.  Still, I take that as a win and who knows, I may even develop a bizarre fondness for it.

With all that in mind I still think it is better than the New Star Trek films.  By lightyears.  OK, I've only seen the first New Trek, but I'm led to believe that the second is worse (which I'm happy to accept without viewing it for myself... it's probably wall to wall lens flare).  Karl Urban does a pretty good job as Dr McCoy, I'll grant him that, but he's Dredd.  Of course he doesn't suck.  I can't say I was impressed with anyone else, not even Simon Pegg.  Back to the point.  ToS = better than Star Trek Reboot.

Due to ToS' repetitive nature in terms of story themes I am still enjoying considering the potential of a Star Trek series reboot ala BSG.  Of course much of it's tone would need to be less dark than BSG.  I like the representation of the Klingons and the way they are presented in ToS is very different from the Films and spin offs.  Expanding the original Klingon concept would be interesting.  I do end up bustling with loads of ideas and if I had both the time and talent I'd write a reboot fan fiction or something.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 26 November, 2013, 04:48:52 pm
Shatner's Kirk is an incredible creation- undeniably the most famous hero in a'll of science fiction, and utterly believable from start to his end. ... they then claim Patrick Stewart is "a good actor". Let me make this very clear: he is not.

While completely agreeing with you that Shatner is superb, almost ridiculously so in ToS, I just can't agree about Stewart: he does precisely what he needs to do as in actor in TNG, which is to appear to believe utterly in and treat the ridiculous tosh around him completely seriously, to the stage where it becomes a plot point to have his character want his scientific/diplomatic/humanitarian/military mission to be run professionally, and not as an interstellar daycare centre.  I think his performance is every bit as good as Shatner's in filling and developing the role his character plays.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Recrewt on 26 November, 2013, 05:15:07 pm
I can't say I'm overly impressed by Star Trek ToS.  Some episodes are enjoyable, some a laughable and some a just plain awful.

When I saw that you were watching Star Trek ToS, this is what I immediately thought.  I bloomin well love ToS and have to say your comments about Shatner are absurd - the man is a legend that has never been equalled in the captain's chair.  But, it is very up and down with episodes ranging from pretty poor to the best stuff I have ever seen. 

What always makes me laugh about trekkers who have a go at Shatner, is that they then claim Patrick Stewart is "a good actor". Let me make this very clear: he is not. But he very very much thinks he is.

Well, as we all know Shatner has a bit of love/hate relationship with Trekkies/Trekkers/Whatever They Call Themselves so a lot of the 'flak' I think relates to this.  He calls them weird freaks and they say Patrick is better.  I dont mind Patrick Stewart - he's the second best captain Trek has ever had.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 26 November, 2013, 05:21:08 pm
Shatner's Kirk is an incredible creation- undeniably the most famous hero in a'll of science fiction, and utterly believable from start to his end. ... they then claim Patrick Stewart is "a good actor". Let me make this very clear: he is not.

While completely agreeing with you that Shatner is superb, almost ridiculously so in ToS, I just can't agree about Stewart: he does precisely what he needs to do as in actor in TNG, which is to appear to believe utterly in and treat the ridiculous tosh around him completely seriously, to the stage where it becomes a plot point to have his character want his scientific/diplomatic/humanitarian/military mission to be run professionally, and not as an interstellar daycare centre.  I think his performance is every bit as good as Shatner's in filling and developing the role his character plays.

Stewart even does a good job of the completely-out-of-character Picard served up in most of the Next Gen films. He's aces. Brilliant also in EXTRAS.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Daveycandlish on 26 November, 2013, 05:37:29 pm
I must admit the only Trek boxset I have is the 70s animated series where Shatners acting ticks are even more pronounced! Still love it though
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 26 November, 2013, 05:38:16 pm
I haven't seen Shatner in much outside of Star Trek.  Nevertheless, it is my observation that as the series go past he is overacting more and more.  I'm aware that it has been exaggerated in popular culture because it's not as bad as I was expecting (so far) but it's still bad. 

I have no nostalgia for ToS nor do I have any emotional investment in it.  I have no beef with Shatner, either.  Just calling it how I see it.... sorry about that :)

Moving on:

I enjoy Patrick Stewart's performances and I did enjoy his Piccard.  My favourite Trek captain is Avery Brooks' Ben Sisko.  His character actually developed over the years from a traumatised commander to a mystic warrior demi-god.  Even then, I probably wouldn't defend my choice to the hilt - don't really care enough.

In case anyone is wondering, I'm not a trekkie or trekker.  There might be a science fiction franchise out there that I would claw anyone's eyes out for criticising.  I won't say what it is because I suspect the temptation might prove too great for some of you boys ;)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Ancient Otter on 27 November, 2013, 12:02:55 am
I'm literally choking on my biscuits at the suggestion that Shatner was "crap" in Trek! That's a muddleheaded piece of nonsense spread by terrible stand up comedians back in the nineties,and endlessly copied and repeated by office bores trying to appear cool and funny in front of the latest sexy temp. Shatner's Kirk is an incredible creation- undeniably the most famous hero in a'll of science fiction, and utterly believable from start to his end. Shatner is a great actor anyway- check out 'nightmare at 20000 feet' for more of this. What always makes me laugh about trekkers who have a go at Shatner, is that they then claim Patrick Stewart is "a good actor". Let me make this very clear: he is not. But he very very much thinks he is.

SBT

Starring in over 60 pieces by the Royal Shakespeare Company means nothing to you? You are one tough critic SBT.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 27 November, 2013, 07:40:06 am
Brilliant also in EXTRAS.

"But it's too late.  I've seen everything."

One of several guaranteed methods of de-angrying the wife is to deliver one of the Extras soliloquies in my best Stewart.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 27 November, 2013, 11:25:10 am
I'm going to start buying The Shield boxsets; never watched it but I've heard it goes great once Kurt Sutter is promoted as the man in charge. Anybody here actually watch it when it was on channel5 a few years back?

I am rewatching the Shield in its entirety for something like the 3rd time?

It's a great show with great performances and a photography style that really suits it. It's a little over the top (ok a lot over the top) but it's a fun, dark and satisfying show with an ambitious way of telling stories. Effectively tells one story from beginning to end, nothing ever goes away forever. Worth watching just for Forest Whitaker
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 30 November, 2013, 07:16:36 pm
Finally made it to the end of Community Season 4. It improves slightly towards the end of the 13 episodes, but it's instantly forgettable stuff and, unlike seasons 1-3 which I must have watched through 4+ times now, I'll never watch any of it again. Every so often they have a germ of something interesting, but it's weird how off everything still is - even down to how the actors deliver lines - the rhythm of the show is just missing entirely. And of course, it's about 95% less funny than it used to be, and the 'antics' feel incredibly forced - sometimes to a toe-curling degree.

On the plus side, the quality bar has been lowered by such an absurd degree that there's no way the imminent season 5 can possibly disappoint...

Roll on January.

On another related note, I've finally converted some of my friends onto the show, who now love it as much as I do, and it's been a delight watching the old episodes with them. Maybe I can now get my gf to give it another chance.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 30 November, 2013, 07:28:46 pm
I seem to be constantly Community-converting folk, it's amazing how relatively popular it is how few people have actually seen it!

With regards to four as I said to someone t'other day - now that we know there's probably definitely going to be a good season 5 it just makes that mess look like a bump on the road rather than what it looked like when it aired. Which was a monstrosity of epic proportions. Phheewww.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 30 November, 2013, 08:10:10 pm
I've always found it tricky to get others hooked because the first series - especially the first five or six episodes - don't really represent what the show becomes as it grows and evolves, and the writers get more confident. It certainly didn't click with me until the Modern Warfare episode, and it took me a long time to really warm to the characters. People tend to have very short attention spans these days and tend to judge stuff very quickly - I know that people I have recommended it to in the past didn't make it past the pilot. Their loss.

I pressed the DVD into my friend's hand a couple of week's ago, and gave them a big spiel about it, saying not to judge it too harshly early on, and to maybe even skip ahead to specific episodes, but I needn't have bothered as it turns out they loved it straight away!

I do think it's going to be one of those shows that, like Arrested Development, only gets a big following after its ended. It's staggering how it is almost completely unknown in the UK.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 30 November, 2013, 11:02:24 pm
I polished off the fifth and final season of the original Twilight Zone and there were some great episodes like Nightmare at 20 000 Feet and Number 12 Looks Just Like You, but my favorite was probably The Self-Improvement Of Salvadore Ross, which has some moments of sinister genius like the main character getting younger and younger as he travels from his penthouse apartment to his car, and the black cruelty of the final twist is just fantastic.  There's the odd turd, though, like the nonsensical Come Wander With Me, which I will charitably suggest is about a guy trapped inside a song, A Short Drink From A Certain Fountain, Sounds And Silences, and Black Leather Jackets, but the sexism and racism of isolated episodes like The Encounter and From Agnes With Love aside, it's otherwise a solid season with some standout imagery like the giant fear monster balloon and Robby T. Robot with a pimp cane dissing a 'ho.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 30 November, 2013, 11:39:02 pm
Honestly I remember watching Community for the first time and not being sold on the first... maybe two or three episodes. But I have a completists mentality about this kind of thing and someone I really trust on these matters had told me it was worth it so that pulled me right through, but even before the paintball one I thought "now this is weird" but Harmon's penchant for sappiness without context threw me right off at the start.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 01 December, 2013, 12:28:07 am
Speaking of completest mentalities I have been seriously considering ditching my attempt to watch the original series Star Trek from start to finish.  I don't know how much more of it I can take but I feel obliged to persevere.  I must carry on  and get to the   end.  I can't let it      beat me.  I           just can't.  Don't you                               understand? Ican'tletit     win!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 01 December, 2013, 12:57:11 am
I did that last December/January - bought the whole thing for my Trekkie other half and it was, yeah, tough going but some of it is marvellous. Hard to do in one sitting, will break it into season chunks in future!

I've bought her (she doesn't read this board he says hopefully) the original movies for this Crimbo. Much more manageable (and cheaper)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 01 December, 2013, 01:15:35 am
I'm not the biggest fan anyway, but I don't think something like Star Trek was ever designed to be watched in quick succession like that so it's bound to suffer as a result. Watching the odd episode when it pops up on telly is definitely the way forward.

As for Community, I guess it's destined to be one of those programmes like Seinfeld or Arrested Development or whatever. Beloved of TV critics everywhere and a few lone souls but generally ignored or just never seen. Sorry.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 01 December, 2013, 12:43:09 pm
I've been watching one or two a day so it's spread out a little bit and I've seen 61 episodes so far.  It really depends on the quality of the next 19 episodes as to whether I can manage to get to the end or not.  The children of the corn episode "And the children shall lead" (from which the clip Professor Bear posted appears) really did my head in.  It was just so tiresome and annoying.

I'll probably have to admit that I'm not a big TV fan anyway.  I don't have a television feed and scheduled programming has been mostly devoid in my life for around 5 years now.  Box set viewing is how I view TV programmes now. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 01 December, 2013, 01:12:01 pm
I'm not the biggest fan anyway, but I don't think something like Star Trek was ever designed to be watched in quick succession like that so it's bound to suffer as a result. Watching the odd episode when it pops up on telly is definitely the way forward.

We've been watching TOS an episode a week-or-so since the spring, usually with The Boy and usually out of order, and sometimes mixed in with TNG episodes, and I thought it stood up very well indeed in that essentially televisual format.  Still manages to be thought-provoking on occasion, and frequently very exciting.  I find myself mesmerised by how successful the make-up and costumes are, and surprised how much I care about the crew's OTT emotions.  Most importantly, it's a future I actively want to live in: there aren't many of those.  They really do a hell of a lot with very little.

Mind you, Pictsy, if you're having problems with the first and/or second seasons you're as well to jump before you get to the third - there is some good stuff in there, but also some terrible repetitive clunkers.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 01 December, 2013, 01:41:58 pm
Already into the third series.  I'm on "Spectre of the Gun" which is proving so far to be a bit silly.  The previous episode wasn't too bad either, although seeing Dr Pulaski appear in ToS a second time was distracting.

I remember watching an episode of Star Trek many years ago that I enjoyed to a degree.  I haven't seen that one this time around yet.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 01 December, 2013, 02:00:06 pm
... seeing Dr Pulaski appear in ToS a second time was distracting.

You'd think Lwaxana Troi (aka Number One, Nurse/Dr. Chapel, the Computer) and Sarek of Vulcan (aka Romulan Commander, Klingon Captain of the IKS Amar) would have prepared you!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 01 December, 2013, 04:35:10 pm
Not really as I was aware those two featured in the series.  I had no idea about Dr Pulaski and she looks quite different in ToS than TNG.  That haircut in TNG did her no favours whatsoever.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 01 December, 2013, 11:06:18 pm
Finished my viewing of I, Claudius. The second half isn't quite as good as the first but John Hurt is indeed great as Caligula and it's fairly obvious why they (or Graves) elected to spend so much time on him. The final section covering Claudius' own rule is a nice coda which maybe drags on slightly too long and features another historic casting coup in Christopher Biggins' Nero. Marvellous.

Over the past couple of nights I've watched almost all of the second series of Game of Thrones in a distracted sort of way. I'm sure I've missed all sorts of things but , knowing the books reasonably well, it's been nice to have it on in the background and dip in and out of paying attention. Think I'll manage the climactic battle before bed.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 09 December, 2013, 02:21:41 pm
After watching Frasier (which is absolutely great) I went back and started watching Cheers, I'm up to the series 6 now, when Saavik shows up. Kirsty Alley is absolutely fantastic, her comedy chops have been a revelation. She's much more likeable than Diane Chambers too, although (especially in her later years), I think we weren't supposed to like Diane much, and the whole Sam and Diane thing became completely insufferable very quickly.

Another aspect that impressed me was how Kelsey Grammar had Dr. Frasier Crane down pat immediately. Whether you watch his first appearance in Cheers, or the last episode of Frasier, it is absolutely the same character, a bit older maybe, but without any tweaking. He hit the ground running with that character.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 09 December, 2013, 03:21:31 pm
Teen Wolf season 3.  The first season was surprisingly good for a po-faced update of a notoriously rubbish campfest from the 1980s whose only redeeming quality was that Michael J Fox had a habit of choosing scripts at random, but season 2 was all over the shop with arbitrary plot elements coming into play and the show displayed signs of becoming less horror and more superhero-y, reminding me a lot of Japanese kids' series Kamen Rider Blade.  I say this without judgement, either, but the show also became amazingly gay, as if another show lingered on the undressed female form the way this show lingers on its topless male cast, it'd be called out as sexist tripe rather quickly.
Season 3 is a straight superhero show, complete with a blind kung-fu werewolf martial arts master, twin werewolves who combine into a single more powerful werewolf, psychics, druids, serial killers, evil sorcerers, a baddie made of insects - oh, and being a werewolf is also like being a Highlander now, because there can be only one and once one werewolf kills another they absorb their werewolf powers, which is one of the lesser-known parts of werewolf mythology established in the famous sequel to the Wolf Man made in 1943 where Claude Rains Licked cream off a dude's shaved chest for three minutes.  It all makes perfect sense for a comedy about a basketball-playing werewolf, really - oh, except he doesn't play basketball anymore, he plays lacrosse, which is basically girls' hockey.
Still, it's pretty enjoyable hokum if you don't mind illogic and a jenga tower approach to the script, owing considerably more than it wants to admit to the kids' show romp that was Big Wolf On Campus, though admittedly with considerably less of the self-awareness that show possessed, with at least one scene so far in which someone talks another person out of ghost-influenced suicide using The Power Of Love - it's two dudes expressing their love, naturally, and this comes less than ten minutes after two other dudes are making out on-camera in a motel room.
Utter nonsense as a whole, but I enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 09 December, 2013, 03:31:50 pm
I did the Cheers and Frasier thing not too long ago.  Cheers surprised me.  It wasn't half as bad as I remembered and actually maintained an average at best quality throughout.  Conversely Woody Harrelson wasn't half as good as I remember.  I must have had an inflated notion of his characters comedic value.  The Frasier character is certainly a highlight.

Frasier, the TV show is one of my favourite sitcoms.  It has it's faults, but the essential quality that makes it so good is how often it makes me laugh.  Cheers didn't really make me laugh that often and the characters were mostly annoying on the whole.  Frasier is just quality and I thoroughly enjoy it on repeat viewings (minus a small handful of episodes I find difficult to watch).
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 09 December, 2013, 05:22:41 pm
Another aspect that impressed me was how Kelsey Grammar had Dr. Frasier Crane down pat immediately. Whether you watch his first appearance in Cheers, or the last episode of Frasier, it is absolutely the same character, a bit older maybe, but without any tweaking. He hit the ground running with that character.

The younger, thinner, hairier Frasier also bears more of a resemblance to Niles. We love a bit of Frasier up our end. Even though you can see plenty of the gags coming a mile away, it's so delightfully and expertly done. Charming.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Daveycandlish on 09 December, 2013, 05:30:19 pm
First three and the final season of Frasier are some of the finest comedy shows to come out of the US in years
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 10 December, 2013, 10:46:55 am
Started watching League of Gentlemen on Netflix - bloody brilliant stuff. My housemates are perplexed by how dark it all is, how it blends the prosaic world of a small, rundown town in the moors with a surreal carnival of insane characters and incredibly creepy ideas. What's all this shouting? We'll have no trouble here!

Other times I be mostly watching the Shield from start to finish when I work from home. Up to Forest Whittaker, genius character.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Ancient Otter on 10 December, 2013, 11:16:28 am
Started watching League of Gentlemen on Netflix - bloody brilliant stuff. My housemates are perplexed by how dark it all is, how it blends the prosaic world of a small, rundown town in the moors with a surreal carnival of insane characters and incredibly creepy ideas. What's all this shouting? We'll have no trouble here!

Having a horror portmanteau for a Christmas special was a great idea.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 10 December, 2013, 11:38:42 am
The BBFC have recently released some long forgotten horror gems on DVD / BD, and I jumped at the chance to pick up 'Dead of Night', primarily for the oft mentioned but little seen 'The Exorcism'.
The box-set only includes 3 episodes, the others apparently deleted from the BBC archives and lost forever.
The other two episodes 'Return Flight' and 'A Woman Sobbing' are perfectly alright if unremarkable, but the main draw of this disc- 'The Exorcism' lives up to the hype.
Hard to believe an hour of television that's over 40 years old would resonate so strongly today.
I'm very much a horror aficionado, and it takes a lot to creep me out.
The final scene featuring the open mouthed starved-to-death corpse of the supernatural force is genuinely shocking.
'The Exorcism' is also set at Christmas, making this a must buy for any fan of the BBCs 'Ghost Stories for Christmas'.

Recommended.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 10 December, 2013, 11:43:01 am
Stuck on episode 13, series 3 of Star Trek ToS.  The title of the episode "Elaan of Troyius" just fills me with dread.  So whilst I work up the courage to watch it I have started on TNG.  Instantly I can see the improvement in quality across the board.  I'm not a fan of the first series of TNG but compared to ToS it is ambrosia.  I don't think I'll ever be a fan of ToS, but I have finally given it a chance.  ToS is better than I expected (at least to begin with), but it doesn't float my boat.  Giving me a greater appreciation for TNG and a revived interest in it is a good thing, though - as I had got tired of TNG from watching it too many times. 

I hope I can finish ToS... maybe if I get really drunk over Christmas.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 10 December, 2013, 12:32:00 pm
Stuck on episode 13, series 3 of Star Trek ToS.  The title of the episode "Elaan of Troyius" just fills me with dread. 

Is that the one with a bit of dialogue along the lines of:

"What is this Human word 'Spanking' that you refer to?"

How could you not love that?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 10 December, 2013, 01:27:00 pm
I haven't actually watched it yet.  You're just scaring me off even more ;)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 10 December, 2013, 01:33:16 pm
Quick! Stop this before Richmond see's!

Well I started to watch Breaking Bad, at last. Five episodes into season one and it's very good indeed. I find Walter to be one of the more empathetic anti hero's of recent years.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Recrewt on 10 December, 2013, 01:34:44 pm
I can remember watching Star Trek ToS on TV as a small child so it is impossible for me to be unbiased about it.  That said, when I watched it again recently I thought it stood up pretty well.  As with any sci-fi series, there is good and bad.

(http://b2b.cbsimg.net/blogs/insp_spocks_brain.png)


As for TNG, well it's generally accepted that the first couple of series were patchy but it does get good after that. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 10 December, 2013, 01:36:21 pm
Elaan of Troyus is not a great episode, in fairness, and any enjoyment probably depends on your threshold for 1950s ideas about women.  The worst of it is, without the non-pun of the various names it wouldn't be half so irritating.  Didn't stop Next Generation making several episodes with the same plot, mind.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 10 December, 2013, 02:12:34 pm
I've now reached series 6 of Steptoe and Son. Previously I'd only seen whatever random episodes BBC2 would show to plug a gap in schedules, which is usually the colour 70's episodes, so virtually everything thus far has been new to me. To be honest, I prefer the early 60's epidoes, if anything - it hadn't had time to lapse into catchphrase and formula and it's much darker stuff.

It's so perfectly pitched and observed. Returning to the kitchen sink gloom of a British sitcom feels like coming home after watching various squeaky, glossy US series - I definately prefer my comedy laced with a bit o' darkness, and Steptoe can be as black as it gets. The pilot episode perfectly encapsulates this - having spent the episode making plans to leave his hated dad and the life he loathes, Harold has a moment of clarity towards the end and breaks down in tears as the sad truth dawns that it's already far too late to change his fate, and he's doomed to end his days alone and bitter in the horrible little scrapyard, committed to a failing buisness in a dying industry. It's uncomfortable viewing, and the audience are completely silent for the last ten minutes. And there's no last-minute punchline to undercut the tension - Albert gently shepherds him back inside for a cup of tea, thereby confirming Harold's doom once and for all, and the credits roll. Bleak as you like - and yet this is the pilot for a sitcom!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Devons Daddy on 10 December, 2013, 02:56:57 pm
I own all the star trek episodes!!
But I cannot bring myself to get past season 1 of enterprise.
 Damn that is bad.

Currently watching boardwalk empire, in marathon sessions.

Will be repurchasing BSG in digital format this 25th!! Hi def with hall the extras me thinks!! Webisodes commentary and so forth.
Now that's an addiction worthy of feeding
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 10 December, 2013, 03:45:07 pm
I forgot to mention the absolute worst thing about Cheers.

NOBODY ON THAT SHOW CAN PULL A FUCKING DECENT PINT!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 10 December, 2013, 09:35:59 pm
I own all the star trek episodes!!
But I cannot bring myself to get past season 1 of enterprise.
Damn that is bad.

Never seen all of Season 1 either but the end of Season 2, Season 3 & 4 are great stuff. Really.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Devons Daddy on 12 December, 2013, 02:54:45 pm
Enterprise is better after season 1?? Ok I try then It failed for me it was neither Star Trek past or future and the captain was to well known for my liking.
I give it a go then.
If I can find a working DVD player somewhere in the house.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: GrinningChimera on 14 December, 2013, 07:25:16 am
Adventure Time

Just watched the first episode of season 1. The theme music is annoying. In saying that I complain to my girlfriend about the intro music to Sherlock too. Maybe I just have too high expectations when it comes to intro music. Still not sure if I really "get" the show yet. I was expecting something similar to The Marvelous Misadventures Of Flapjack. With all of the bright colours and crazyness going on, I'd imagine this would be crazy with some kind of natural sensory enhancement. What does everyone else think of this show?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 14 December, 2013, 09:22:31 am
Hm I love the intro to Adventure Time.

It's Adventure Time! That's all I want from it.


It's good with some kind of sensory enhancement, I can confirm (but will deny everything if pressed)

About to take a break from the Shield for the last season of Luther
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 16 December, 2013, 01:51:50 pm
OK I have ditched Star Trek TOS.  I can't watch every episode.

I have watched the entire first series of Star Trek TNG, though and it is soooooo much better.  I am now onto the second series which is already showing improvements. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 16 December, 2013, 02:38:37 pm
NOBODY ON THAT SHOW CAN PULL A FUCKING DECENT PINT!

It's America: no one knows what a decent pint is.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 16 December, 2013, 03:01:45 pm
NOBODY ON THAT SHOW CAN PULL A FUCKING DECENT PINT!

It's America: no one knows what a decent pint is.


Yeah they all drink it cold, the fiends.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 16 December, 2013, 03:07:03 pm
Yeah they all drink it cold, the fiends.

Less the temperature than the fact it tends to be piss-weak and they serve a short pint, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pint_glass) IMO.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 16 December, 2013, 03:15:24 pm
Plus, classically, American beer is a little like making a love in a canoe (http://youtu.be/m_WRFJwGsbY?t=1m1s)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 16 December, 2013, 03:17:22 pm

Less the temperature than the fact it tends to be piss-weak and they serve a short pint, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pint_glass) IMO.


One more reason why the UK & Eire will always be the best spots for a pint.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mikey on 16 December, 2013, 03:24:45 pm
Well I started to watch Breaking Bad, at last. Five episodes into season one and it's very good indeed. I find Walter to be one of the more empathetic anti hero's of recent years.

The Emporer has no clothes.

I was looking forward to Breaking Bad as I'd heard a lot of people saying how much they liked it and it had an inteteresting premise. So I watched it. Turns out my view, which is the correct one of course, is that is was way over hyped and it just didn't live up to the praise it garnered.

My main problem with it was that it went on for too long for what it actually was - I reckon there's a good two or two and a half series when you get rid of the shite. My second problem was that I really didn't like the Whites (apart from Junior) at all, partly because I did not believe them as characters. Plus some of the plot points seemed to require what I saw as pretty massive, massive intuitive leaps to keep the ball rolling, which leads me to my next point: it came across in many occasions as being willfully written into a corner so they could show just how clever they were in getting out of it. As long as you could swallow the leap of logic sometimes needed, for which you had no hope of guessing or marveling at in hindsight as it still didn't make sense. Walter had a tendency to Talk Like A Scientist Does and mumble his thought process in that bumbling way usually reserved for people in white coats with big glasses and mad hair. Plus, in case you hadn't got it already, you can tell he's a nerd because he has a calculator watch and wears y-fronts. Like a big nerd. And if he was worried and/or thinking he opened his mouth. If he wasn't it was closed. Jesse had his moments, including a girlfriend in the fridge one, but I couldn't bring myslef to care. And Skylar? A hateful trout! First of all, she's worried about the kids, she just wants to be with her kids, HER KIDS GODDAMN IT! But then is happy to ship them off for as long as it takes to mooch about in search of character. Plus why in the name of suffering fuck did Hank not scoop Walter when he was standing in his garage having bloody confessed? The whole thing couldn't decide if it was gritty or funny either.  Plus: WHAT WAS THE POINT IN THE FUCKIN CAR WASH?

And that's just for starters...

M.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 16 December, 2013, 05:39:12 pm
OK I have ditched Star Trek TOS.  I can't watch every episode.

I have watched the entire first series of Star Trek TNG, though and it is soooooo much better.  I am now onto the second series which is already showing improvements.

Blimey! It takes 2 to 3 series to find it's feet does TNG.  But then is great*. So I reckon you are in for a treat.

* Your mileage may vary depending on how much you like Brent Spiner.  I think he's great. Yes, even in that one with the bloody masks. Oh and there's a Scottish Ghost episode that is possibly the worse thing I've ever seen. (And I watched ALL of  Smallville),
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 16 December, 2013, 05:56:25 pm
Oh and there's a Scottish Ghost episode that is possibly the worse thing I've ever seen.

Ha, Sub Rosa - that one is craptacular: zombie shortbread-tin grandmothers and the alien ghosties that love them.  Poor Gates McFadden, one of her few 'solo' episodes and it is atrocious.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 16 December, 2013, 07:54:29 pm
Blimey! It takes 2 to 3 series to find it's feet does TNG.  But then is great*. So I reckon you are in for a treat.

* Your mileage may vary depending on how much you like Brent Spiner.  I think he's great. Yes, even in that one with the bloody masks. Oh and there's a Scottish Ghost episode that is possibly the worse thing I've ever seen. (And I watched ALL of  Smallville),

I have seen most of TNG countless times.  Actually to the point where I got sick and tired of it.  After watching ToS I find TNG watch-able again which is a marvellous thing.  I always think things really start taking off when they get rid of those thin coloured lines on the top part of their uniform.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 17 December, 2013, 10:53:07 am
[ Plus why in the name of suffering fuck did Hank not scoop Walter when he was standing in his garage having bloody confessed? The whole thing couldn't decide if it was gritty or funny either.  Plus: WHAT WAS THE POINT IN THE FUCKIN CAR WASH?

And that's just for starters...

M.

The Car Wash was to launder money, which they did successfully. And Hank didn't because of a lack of solid evidence (Walt had covered his tracks) and the extremely poor light it would shine on him either way - to bring him in without solid evidence and a means of exonerating himself from suspicion, he'd be thrown in jail or at the very least, fired for his association.
 


However I do think the hype surrounding Breaking Bad reached a bit of a critical mass and as much as I enjoyed it, it was perhaps exaggerated. I prefered The Sopranos if I'm honest. And both shows are gritty and funny at the same time...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 17 December, 2013, 11:36:46 am
Well damnit I've got something I really want to mention but I'm afraid as soon as I do I'll not be able to come back to the thread for fear of spoilers. Anyway I'll be brave and here goes. Last night we watched the end Breaking Bad's 3rd season. Oh my giddy Aunt was that a cliff-hanger or what!

Now we're lucky. We watching it via Lovefilm and so while we will have to wait a wee bit for Season 4 to kick off again, maybe a couple of Doctor Whos will arrive  first etc etc I can't even begin to imagine how folk who watched this in real time coped. You'd have had to wait, what 9 months before it was back. That is just cruel.

Wow its good though.

So now I can never come back to this thread for fear of spoilers, or do you all promise to play nice?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 17 December, 2013, 12:55:03 pm
Well, we'll play nice with the spoiler tags. On your own head be it if you look underneath!

Mikey has watched all of Breaking Bad btw so do not look lest ye pay the price.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Devons Daddy on 17 December, 2013, 02:02:45 pm
Breaking bad  :o
Amongst the greatest tv ever seen!

Ranks alongside the wire and sapranos in terms of yank tv.
With some scream at the tv moments. For sheer Nooooooooo cliffhanger endings.

Star Trek for me DS9 was excellent.
Pure Sci if western frontier town.

Own both may begin an overdose after christmas
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 17 December, 2013, 04:26:09 pm
Mikey has watched all of Breaking Bad btw so do not look lest ye pay the price.

Yeah I realised that a wee bit earlier and ran like the wind up the thread!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mikey on 17 December, 2013, 05:00:17 pm
I liked some bits of Breaking Bad, but gruddammit they were too few and far between. SPOILERS COMING COLIN!

The Car Wash was to launder money, which they did successfully. And Hank didn't because of a lack of solid evidence (Walt had covered his tracks) and the extremely poor light it would shine on him either way - to bring him in without solid evidence and a means of exonerating himself from suspicion, he'd be thrown in jail or at the very least, fired for his association.
 

Yes, I know it was to launder money. I just thought it was stupid and having a lock up full of cash you couldn't launder quick enough was stupid too! Plus about Hank: unless things are different in the US, an officer of the law (never mind being a credible witness) like Frank would have a 'reasonable suspicion' that an offence had been committed if someone 'fessed up to it and could use that as grounds to arrest him. Once he's arrested then you can start questioning him about his link to the notebook, look into his financial affairs etc. And the fact that Frank was DEA only strengthens my point Frank was one of the few good characters.

Quote
Ranks alongside the wire and sapranos in terms of yank tv.
With some scream at the tv moments. For sheer Nooooooooo cliffhanger endings.

Your mouth is full of crazy talk DD! There is NO WAY it can be mentioned in the same breath as those two series! There was some awful acting in The Wire at times, but at least there was plot and character to get you through it. Sopranos was bob on, apart from poor Vito having to dance unconvincingly in a gay fetish bar  :lol:

M.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 26 December, 2013, 03:16:34 pm
Recently I've been alternating between the first serieses of Justified and Lexx, both of which are a lot of fun.

Justified stars Timothy Olyphant playing basically the same character as in Deadwood, transposed to contemporary Kentucky. This first series doesn't have any single over-arching plotline, favouring the loosely bubbling strands mixed in with murder of the week favoured by early seasons of The Shield. Coincidentally, one of those strands is good ol' Cletus van Damme himself, playing a figure from our man's past.

I'd seen quite a bit of Lexx before, but mostly later series and late at night so going back to the start has been enlightening. The first series is made up of four 90 minute tv movie installments. This has its pros and its cons. On the plus side, each episode gets plenty of space to explore its plot in full; on the other hand, this often leads to needless, overextended scenes and annoying repetition of effects sequences.

Boiling it down to its "core concept", Lexx has a lot in common with the likes of Blake's 7 and Farscape but it seems to me that it piles in a lot more genuine science fictional elements as well as a far broader streak of black humour. Probably what distinguishes it most from other tv sci-fi, what I enjoy most about it - and is just as likely to turn others off - is the unrepentant daftness it contains.

I'd previously thought Lexx's more overt sexxual content was maybe due to it being a German co-production and, therefore, having a more open-minded, European outlook. There's definitely an element of that and of taking the piss out of our expectations of gender roles. However, plenty of it is just plain pervy.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Ancient Otter on 27 December, 2013, 07:02:53 pm
Recently I've been alternating between the first serieses of Justified and Lexx, both of which are a lot of fun.

Is Lexx the show with loads of puppet work aliens or I am confusing it with another show?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Daveycandlish on 27 December, 2013, 08:15:28 pm

Is Lexx the show with loads of puppet work aliens or I am confusing it with another show?

Nah, that's Farscape surely?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 27 December, 2013, 09:10:11 pm

Is Lexx the show with loads of puppet work aliens or I am confusing it with another show?

Nah, that's Farscape surely?

Jim Henson's company leant a hand to make that show, several in fact.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 27 December, 2013, 09:20:11 pm
Jim Henson's company leant a hand to make that show, several in fact.

Waka-waka-waka! 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: von Boom on 07 January, 2014, 02:21:08 pm
Chuck.

I decided to give this a try on Netflix and I'm hooked. There's some serious geek charm to this show. I can't believe I've missed this until now. Even the missus has been sucked in.

Just finish the episode where the guys dress as Shai'Hulud for Halloween. As a Dune fan this show will always be tops with me now.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 07 January, 2014, 02:33:41 pm
I'm still watching Star Trek TNG.  I am on the fifth series now.  Thing picked up with pretty much back to back classic episode in series three, the jump in quality was amazing.  There is no going back to TOS, now, it'll be total pants in comparison.  Watched a number of episodes of TNG over the hols with my eldest brother and made light of the Star Fleet's need to normalise everyone and everything.

I have also started watching the Trigun anime for a job I am currently working on.  It's not at all what I was expecting.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 11 January, 2014, 02:43:30 pm


I'd seen quite a bit of Lexx before, but mostly later series and late at night so going back to the start has been enlightening. The first series is made up of four 90 minute tv movie installments. This has its pros and its cons. On the plus side, each episode gets plenty of space to explore its plot in full; on the other hand, this often leads to needless, overextended scenes and annoying repetition of effects sequences.

Boiling it down to its "core concept", Lexx has a lot in common with the likes of Blake's 7 and Farscape but it seems to me that it piles in a lot more genuine science fictional elements as well as a far broader streak of black humour. Probably what distinguishes it most from other tv sci-fi, what I enjoy most about it - and is just as likely to turn others off - is the unrepentant daftness it contains.

I sat through the entire series late in 2012. Loads of fun!

I think it's one of those shows where you have to just accept the silliness of it. Even the sexual humour sort of falls into that and becomes a part of it, for me.

Whichever way you slice it, the show is certainly unique. I remember picking up the box set for cheap and expecting some stupid, trashy fun. I was surprised at how much I found myself genuinely enjoying it when watching it all end to end.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 13 January, 2014, 10:23:59 am
Chuck.

I decided to give this a try on Netflix and I'm hooked. There's some serious geek charm to this show. I can't believe I've missed this until now. Even the missus has been sucked in.

Just finish the episode where the guys dress as Shai'Hulud for Halloween. As a Dune fan this show will always be tops with me now.

Got through the first two episodes on Friday - think I'll be loading it up next time I work from home too. Not least for Sarah.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Bobblehead on 13 January, 2014, 10:42:49 am
I have also started watching the Trigun anime for a job I am currently working on.  It's not at all what I was expecting.

  Is that good or bad? :)
 I really enjoyed what ive watched of the anime so far,just waiting for my mate to buy the rest of the series so i can borrow it ;)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 13 January, 2014, 11:21:28 am
Oh it's a good thing.  The series is very fun.  Although, from my cursory knowledge before having watched any episodes I really thought it was going to be more serious than it is.  I don't really need to watch more than what I have for this job, but I'm going to as I have really got into it now.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 13 January, 2014, 11:35:44 am
Just finished Season 2 of Game of Thrones.  Cor, that was a bit good.  I may have missed something while gawping open-mouthed at the magnificently disparate locations and budget-devouring battle-scenes, but do we get some sort of a reprise of the sacking of Winterfell at the start of Season 3? 'Cos while I've read the books the missus hasn't, and I don't want to be mansplaining if I don't have to.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 13 January, 2014, 11:52:18 am
but do we get some sort of a reprise of the sacking of Winterfell at the start of Season 3? 'Cos while I've read the books the missus hasn't, and I don't want to be mansplaining if I don't have to.

Not as such — I haven't quite got that far in the books, but the 'Who burned Winterfell and what the fuck is happening to Theon?' is running plot through Season 3, although the reveal is a blink-and-you'll-miss-it throwaway.

The bit of Season 3 is pretty unflinching, BTW, to the extent that I'd give some sort of gentle warning to those of a sensitive disposition…

We're about to start our pre-Season 4 re-watch of Season 3, because… (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZY43QSx3Fk&feature=youtu.be)

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 13 January, 2014, 11:59:39 am
...the 'Who burned Winterfell and what the fuck is happening to Theon?' is running plot through Season 3, although the reveal is a blink-and-you'll-miss-it throwaway.

Perfect, I'll keep my white male privilege to myself so.  I've greatly enjoyed watching my better half puzzling everything out and falling for the usual characters, but if I offer one more helpful gloss on proceedings I think I'll have to take the black myself.

Making a run at Season 3 later this week, and looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 13 January, 2014, 12:25:55 pm
I would love to be able to sit through a TV show without having to mansplain, particular when it's such straightforward things as what just happened on TV that she missed because she can't keep off bloody facebook.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 13 January, 2014, 12:38:56 pm
...mansplaining...

...mansplain...

This phrase really makes me cringe.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 13 January, 2014, 12:44:01 pm
...mansplaining...

...mansplain...

This phrase really makes me cringe.

 :D  It is truly ghastly, isn't it?  I was using it in the most pejorative sense (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mansplain) possible, honest! [/mansplain]

 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 13 January, 2014, 12:53:33 pm
I ended a friendship over 'mansplaining'.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 13 January, 2014, 01:02:38 pm
I ended a friendship over 'mansplaining'.

I don't doubt it, the practice is endemic, even if the portmanteau is ugly.  I'm a frequent offender myself, but while I feel it's probably more a general part of my being a relentless bore than anything targeted, I am working on it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 13 January, 2014, 01:04:44 pm
I've never heard of it. Looking at the definition I don't think I have much need for it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 13 January, 2014, 01:23:23 pm
To be clear, it was the portmanteau (that is a fantastic word) that started the argument that prompted me into parting ways with her.  Although, perhaps ironically, she was 'mansplaining' at me considerably at the end of the argument.

I don't like the phrase 'man flu' either.

Also, good for you, Hawkmonger :D
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 13 January, 2014, 01:30:08 pm
Manflu is bollocks*, it's a common cold and it is easily killed with hot whiskey.

*That might be a poor choice of words.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 13 January, 2014, 01:52:55 pm
I know we've discussed this here before*, but the misappropriation of manflu is driving me crazy.  The other day my wife's boss phoned to say he wouldn't be in 'cos he had manflu.  What the wife (and I) heard was: "I have a mild cold and/or hangover but am pretending it's a serious illness because I'm male".  Now I know that's not what he meant, he meant he had a bad cold, but feck's sake what a stupid use of language.



*Although probably not in the Boxset thread...  :-\
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 13 January, 2014, 02:58:16 pm
Yeah they are hideous words.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 13 January, 2014, 04:39:47 pm
I'm on the last episode of series 5 of ST:TNG.  This series has been slightly more clunky than the the previous two stellar series', with a few more episodes to groan at.  Nevertheless, there are still a good number of excellent episodes to make up for it.

Also half way through Trigun and keen to carry on watching it now I have my internet connection back.  The slow development of the show is really interesting and there is a well devised mystery to it that compels me to keep on watching.  The animation is well done and very apt for the tone.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Greg M. on 13 January, 2014, 07:01:22 pm
I'm on the last episode of series 5 of ST:TNG.  This series has been slightly more clunky than the the previous two stellar series', with a few more episodes to groan at.  Nevertheless, there are still a good number of excellent episodes to make up for it.

Probably my favourite season of the lot - hard to argue with 'The Inner Light', 'Darmok', 'Silicon Avatar' or 'I, Borg'. It even has that rarest of things - a good Wesley Crusher episode in the form of 'The First Duty'.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 13 January, 2014, 07:30:22 pm
Inner Light and Darmok are fantastic stuff. Picard (and ergo TNG) at his best.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 13 January, 2014, 08:10:58 pm
I certainly agree.  There is also Imaginary Friend, Hero Worship, Cost of Living and even Ethics get's a groan as Crusher rides her high horse once again.  Looking ahead there are a few more groan inducing episodes to come in the next two series'.  Still, looking ahead I am reminded of what great episodes there are to come that I have never quite tired of watching.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Greg M. on 13 January, 2014, 08:22:37 pm
'Ethics' has that great Riker moment though, where he suggests Alexander is the one Worf should be asking to help him with his suicide. And I quite like 'Hero Worship', simply because the kid does an excellent Data. But yes, 'Cost of Living' is one of the worst episodes ever - it's Season 1 bad.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 13 January, 2014, 10:13:40 pm
Is "Ethics" the one where they take Worf's spine out because he's Professor X now, stick it in a fish tank, then wave christmas lights at it until everything is better?  That was the first episode of TNG I ever gave my full undivided attention (rather than reading or doing homework while it was on) and it did my head in.

Also for my sins I have been watching season 1 Voyager lately - not as bad as I remember - in fact a lot better than some TNG - but its strengths were sadly sidelined later.  Picardo is very good, though - his early version of the Doctor cleverly subverts expectations of a Trek show by being little more than what everyone says he is, particularly when he tries to explain to Kes(/the audience) that he's incapable of picking a name for himself because he's just a fucking machine.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 13 January, 2014, 10:18:36 pm
Unless I'm mistaken it's the also one where Worf turns out to have a hitherto unmentioned secondary backup brain.  Presumably in dangerous situations his primary brain separates and heads off on its own.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 14 January, 2014, 10:44:06 am
Also for my sins I have been watching season 1 Voyager lately - not as bad as I remember...

I thought the same when I rewatched all of Voyager last year.  It still has my least favourite cast of characters (of the Trek I enjoy watching), but early Doctor was a definite highlight.  I think his development was better than Data as he wasn't fawning over "being human" and was quite happy to develop his identity as a hologram.  Nevertheless, we still have to put up with Tom Paris, Harry Kim, Nelix and that awful Irish Theme Pub holodeck programme. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 14 January, 2014, 10:59:10 am
that awful Irish Theme Pub holodeck programme.

So, tis a praablam with Fairhaven ye have, is it?
Nathin ta do wi' the fact Species 8472 were turned from the most pramisin new Trek villain to Tribble level threat within wan season?

Away with ye.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 14 January, 2014, 11:10:40 am
Nathin ta do wi' the fact Species 8472 were turned from the most pramisin new Trek villain to Tribble level threat within wan season?

I dunno, the ability to perfectly duplicate the entire of Starfleet Command from half a galaxy away, down to the speech patterns of the Academy groundskeeper, seems pretty powerful to me.  Or unbelievably moronic, hard to say.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 14 January, 2014, 11:25:51 am
For me, it was the moment the Shark Jumped.

Out of the bleedin' Alpha Quadrant.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 14 January, 2014, 12:52:19 pm
that awful Irish Theme Pub holodeck programme.

So, tis a praablam with Fairhaven ye have, is it?
Nathin ta do wi' the fact Species 8472 were turned from the most pramisin new Trek villain to Tribble level threat within wan season?

Away with ye.

lol
Actually Species 8472 never bothered me a great deal.  They were set up as a promising new villain, didn't really deliver and that's about it. 

Fairhaven was nausea inducing.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 14 January, 2014, 01:07:18 pm

Fairhaven was nausea inducing.

That it was.
And imagine having to sit through it if you were Irish?  :)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 14 January, 2014, 04:06:55 pm
I didn't mind the Fairhaven stuff as it was explicitly an idealised panto version of Ireland within the fictional context of Voyager's own universe, and acknowledged as such by the characters.  At the time I thought it a lot less insulting than the likes of braindead shit like Ballykissangel or those Eastenders episodes, though it also has a lot more validity than something like 2000ad's own Emerald Isle.

Voyager was at least an equal opportunity-offender, too, as it's take on 1930s Paris, Nazi-occupied rural France, and even mid-90s America were pretty unrealistic versions of the real thing.  "Freakasauraus" my oul hole!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 17 January, 2014, 09:39:17 am
I'm about halfway through the first series of 'The Killing', and it's... actually pretty pedestrian.

It's quite atmospheric, though. I just don't get much sense of why it's so highly regarded at the moment. I keep waiting for an earth-shattering twist or reveal, and it's been a bit dull in that area so far.

Although, I AM in danger of developing a thing for middle-aged Danish women in chunky-knit sweaters. With sleuthy abilities. (A very specific thing, you understand.)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Jo-L on 17 January, 2014, 12:25:01 pm
I'm in the middle of watching "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia".  For the third time.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 19 January, 2014, 07:05:45 am
You know how I said 'The Killing' was a bit pedestrian?

Yeekers, was I wrong! The last few episodes have REALLY ramped things up!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 19 January, 2014, 09:44:39 am
In the middle of Game of Thrones Season 3, thoroughly enjoying watching the missus' expectations being repeatedly confounded, but even more so when she predicts things correctly: she was spot on with Daeny's trick with Valyrian and the Unsullied at Astapor.  And the Red Wedding approaches, undetected.  Almost makes me wish I hadn't read the books.

A Song of Ice and Fire is a great fun read, but it isn't exactly unique - why is there nothing else on telly with the scale of ambition and success of realisation as Game of Thrones?  it's schlocky nonsense to be sure, but there are some really great performances (how good is Diana Rigg, never mind Lena Headey, Peter Dinklage, Nikolai Coster-Waldau, Maisie Williams...) and the location work alone poops on anything else out there.  Even the CGI on the dragons and set-extensions is extraordinary.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 20 January, 2014, 10:31:19 am
Red Wedding was fun to watch with the uninitiated. Especially when they killed the wolf. Last shot of Caetlyn getting her throat slit was genius and put such a quiet end to all the shrieking in my room - my wife is a yeller.

Just finished Fringe off - second time through for me, first time for the Mrs. She loved it though she had trouble accepting that time travel works by whatever means they say it works, as its not real. Think I enjoyed this even more the second time around as well actually especially Observer-world, though the cracks in the concepts were quite blatant on second viewing. Authoritarian occupying force is terrible at actually monitoring or policing anyone who is actually opposed to it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mardroid on 21 January, 2014, 12:53:49 am
Currently working my way through the second series of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

Very good stuff, although there are gaps in the thread of some stories where a bit of explanation wouldn't go amis, although some of that could just be me missing stuff.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 21 January, 2014, 10:11:50 am
I liked a lot of what was set up by the end....Always fond of some ambitious time travel and the idea of an allied AI. Wish the showrunners would sketch out a plot so I could have some closure.

Dont think those spoilers are too much if you're in season 2. One ridiculous thing about the whole show was John's attraction to Summer Glau. Yes she's pretty but she's a robotic killing machine! Ew.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 21 January, 2014, 12:24:20 pm
Rewatching The Sopranos - currently mid-way through season three and approaching 'Pine Barrens', one of the single greatest episodes of anything ever.

Still amazing, and made all the more poignant by the recent passing of James Gandolfini - it really is the performance of a lifetime. HOW is it possible to make a character so monstrous, magnetic, charming, vulnerable, completely lovable and utterly repellent all at the same time? I really should get round to seeing Enough Said.

If I had to criticise the show I'd say there's a tad too much flowery therapist-speak/psychobabble, and (if this isn't a bit too Daily Mail of me) I suspect that real-life gangsters and career criminals wouldn't be as multi-layered, nuanced or interesting as the characters presented in the show.

Armand Assante is also awesome and coldly menacing as the loathsome Richie Aprile. See, ol' Judge Rico can act when he isn't hamming it up!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 21 January, 2014, 01:30:07 pm
The Sopranos is my favourite tv show of all time, okay so for a few episodes at the start of Season 6 we were all a little worried as it lost its way but by the end it was firmly back on form.

My chronology gets a bit wonky but it stands out for me as the first truly great long form tv show of the current American generation. Its the start of the time we (by which I mean there seemed to be a general understanding and or perception) stopped thinking that British TV was the best and the American channels started doing telly that was better than not just our telly, but better than film. So many great characters, Carmela, Livia, Paulie, Christopher, Silvio and so many more. For all that its Tony's show and Gandolfini is just gigantic in the role. The fact that its Tony's show makes the ending oh so clear to me too, but I digress.

The only possible thing that could rock it from its mantel as best telly show ever and Tony Soprano as best performance and or character in telly ever is the fact that I've just finished season 4 of Breaking Bad and that show and Bryan Cranston / Walter White are, much to my amazement fighting for both top slots... mind I prefer Mike as a character, much as I loved Paulie the most in The Sopranos.

I think once I finish BB (first disk of season five on the way) I might try to persuade my wife to try it again so I can compare the two.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 21 January, 2014, 01:38:41 pm
Quote
My chronology gets a bit wonky but it stands out for me as the first truly great long form tv show of the current American generation.

Funny you should mention it. I'm actually trying to get hold of this:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/415tvHPirML._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_SX342_SY445_CR,0,0,342,445_SH20_OU02_.jpg)

 but ideally want the audiobook version but can't find it for a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 21 January, 2014, 01:40:56 pm
One alarming thing about watching Sopranos now is that it started 15(!!!) years ago, and already looks incredibly dated (as in things like fashion, tech and whatnot, not the show itself), especially the early seasons...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 21 January, 2014, 02:54:08 pm
The Martian Chronicles, which starts out okay, hits its stride when people start going native and being haunted by a ghost race reduced to the equivalent of mountain men, but then tails off into a muddled and absolutist view of the politics of colonialism, finally nailing the coffin lid shut on its potential by having Darren McGavin dressed as a cowboy having a stagecoach chase shootout and then having Rock Hudson's family commit collective suicide and end the human race, which is thematically appropriate given the notions of cyclical history and parallels between humanity and native Martians explored, but also noticeably at odds with the writer and director's intent.
While not terrible, the music is deeply intrusive and inappropriate - but what the hell, it's not like this mother hasn't dated appallingly already.  I liked some of the ideas on display - like the human and the Martian speaking but knowing who was in the planet's past and who was in its future - but a lot of it has been appropriated in the intervening years and often implemented better, so I think enjoyment of the material here may be down to how much you're willing to indulge something that's clearly of its time in attitude and execution.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 25 January, 2014, 02:20:53 pm
Not long finished the third series of Breaking Bad. A definite improvement on the previous one. The dramatic reduction in scenes of Walt whining coupled with increased focus on some of the other characters like Skylar and Hank has worked wonders. In particular, the decision to make the latter not a total bellend any more (well, he's still a bellend, just not so much of a comedy bellend) was a good one. It made the jump back to Walt and Jesse for the last couple of episodes fresh and gripping in a way that I've rarely found it.

Now back to the second series of Justified for some fun.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 25 January, 2014, 02:22:56 pm
The Martian Chronicles, which starts out okay, hits its stride when people start going native and being haunted by a ghost race ... so I think enjoyment of the material here may be down to how much you're willing to indulge something that's clearly of its time in attitude and execution.
I have vague memories of seeing bits of this on tv in the early 80s. May give it a whirl.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 07 February, 2014, 03:07:58 pm
The Following is a show about a cult obssessed with Edgar Allen Poe and a serial killer. Or goths as they're known 'round our way.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 07 February, 2014, 03:40:12 pm
The Following is entertainingly daft.  At one point a baddie ties Kevin Bacon up - like you'd expect Adam West to be in the old Batman show - then uses magnets to make his heart stop, all the while going "BWAH-HA-HA-HA!" so it's very silly even before you remember that it is a television show that has Kevin Bacon in it.
Title: Re: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 07 February, 2014, 04:12:31 pm
Been watching a few eps of Rick and Morty. Pretty good stuff, like a more unhinged Futurama. It's no Community, but is watchable enough.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 07 February, 2014, 05:40:54 pm
I'm really into Rick and Morty - bafflingly mad and probably the most inspired thing I've seen on TV in an age.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 07 February, 2014, 05:43:32 pm
Is it ANYTHING to do with BttF? From what i've seen of it, very little. :lol:
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: GrinningChimera on 10 February, 2014, 07:14:45 am
I'm looking at adding Jericho to my collection. But I thought I'd get an opinion first. Has anyone here seen it? What did you think? I'm a huge apocalyptic fiction geek and it sounds right up my alley. Although the short episode run for season 2 is a little off putting. Worth my time? Or should I get the Malcolm In The Middle box set instead? (I know it's not the same. But watching it now that we have Walter White might make it even more funny than I remember)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 10 February, 2014, 11:27:34 am
Jericho, like so many of these things, starts off a bit rocky and bogged down in soap operadom, but finds its feet in short order and is bloody brilliant by the time they axe it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 10 February, 2014, 01:29:46 pm
Just ordered season 2 of game of Thrones now the price has come down somewhat - can't wait!

And I'm gonna have to check out Rick & Morty, it looks like as lot of fun.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 10 February, 2014, 02:29:32 pm
I'm looking at adding Jericho to my collection. But I thought I'd get an opinion first. Has anyone here seen it? What did you think? I'm a huge apocalyptic fiction geek and it sounds right up my alley. Although the short episode run for season 2 is a little off putting. Worth my time?

It's not a classic, but is it is diverting enough if all you want is a post-apocalyptic soap about rednecks, though I admit the appearance of the truly terrible Revolution on our screens right now may give Jericho a sheen and charm it didn't have at the time.  The show was cancelled but renewed thanks to decent dvd sales, so in a truncated season 2 the producers took the chance to wrap up the season 1 plots and made the series one of the rare cancelled sci-fi shows that didn't screw its audience on the final stretch.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HOO-HAA on 10 February, 2014, 03:32:20 pm
Jericho, like so many of these things, starts off a bit rocky and bogged down in soap operadom, but finds its feet in short order and is bloody brilliant by the time they axe it.

Yep, Jericho was great.

I'm chain-watching two very different shows at the moment: Danish noir, The Bridge, and Australian sci-fi classic, Farscape!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 10 February, 2014, 05:05:39 pm
the appearance of the truly terrible Revolution on our screens right now may give Jericho a sheen and charm it didn't have at the time. 

I'd never even heard of Revolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_%28TV_series%29#Season_1) before, Pro - it sounds like utter pish!

Title: Re: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 11 February, 2014, 10:03:49 am
Everyone seems to be raving about HBO's True Detective at the moment. We watched the first episode last night, and it's ok but really bleak. A bit hard to get invested. Might continue, might not.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 11 February, 2014, 11:31:11 am
Started watching Luther from the beginning the other night. Only saw one episode of season 3 before now. 4 episodes into season 1 and I can only say it's the mutt's nut's. A blooming amazing series all round.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 11 February, 2014, 01:24:32 pm
Started watching Luther from the beginning the other night. Only saw one episode of season 3 before now. 4 episodes into season 1 and I can only say it's the mutt's nut's. A blooming amazing series all round.

Series 1 had the best cliffhanger I think I've ever seen. Never been so anxious to know what happened next. Series 2 really suffered in comparison, if only because the first series was so good.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 12 February, 2014, 02:33:49 am
Just finished off a few episodes of season 2 of 'The Killing'.

Brilliant! While the first season smacked a little too much of manufactured tension, and aggravated me a little with all the twists (to the point where characters on screen started complaining about it!) this second season is top notch. Being exactly half the length of the first season, there's a need to pack more into each episode, which the writers have accomplished without making things feel rushed.

Thomas Buch is now one of my favourite characters in anything. I couldn't tell you why. He just has this likeable quality about him.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 13 February, 2014, 10:36:33 pm
Well that was a fecking phenomenal conclusion to season one of Luther! Oh my lawds I haven't been so exhilarated by an ending in years, so much so that I've instantly gone out and bought season 2.  :D
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HOO-HAA on 13 February, 2014, 10:54:35 pm
Well that was a fecking phenomenal conclusion to season one of Luther! Oh my lawds I haven't been so exhilarated by an ending in years, so much so that I've instantly gone out and bought season 2.  :D

Luther's wonderful. Each season's a winner. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 13 February, 2014, 10:59:58 pm
I am really struggling with the last 2 eps. The vigilante guy doesnt do it for me.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Magnetica on 15 February, 2014, 03:08:48 pm
I decided it was time I finally finished off Lost...I could n't bear not knowing what was going on. I know I could have just read it on Wikipedia...but that's not the same. All I had to do was stop watching re-runs of Star Trek on Pick TV and fast forward through the non Liverpool games on MOTD!

So I have recently watched season 3,4,5 and 6 back to back. I know the series has its detractors but I thought it was great. I really liked the non-linear story telling techniques (I could start going on about ABC Warriors but will restrain myself) and how all the characters interacted. I also really liked the fact that something that happened way back in an earlier series has significance later - it did seem to me that the writers had a definite plan all along. I think watching it at the rate of 8 or so episodes a week really helped - I have seen criticism that a plot thread would be left dangling for 5 or 6 episodes..well for me that was only a couple of days so it did n't matter.

The non-linear story telling really came to the fore when something was shown to have happened to a character and at first you thought you had missed something only for it to be explained later. Have to say the first couple of times I fast forwarded through the previous episode to see if I had missed something; once you got used to it it was great.

The other really stand out aspect of it was the huge and fantastic ensemble cast. I am hard pressed to think of anything else that has so many memorable characters. A bit like The Wire, it was intentionally hard to tell who the good guys were and who the bad guys were. Indeed by the end I was even rooting for Ben.

As to the ending and the explanation of the island. At first I was left feeling a lot was left unexplained, but a trawl through the Net showed this actually was n't the case and that most things did get explained...you just had to be paying enough attention.

I think overall it was one of the best series ever. I certainly didn't think I would have said that when it first started- I think at the time Buffy and Angel had just finished and Enterprise wasn't quite filling the hole left by TNG and DS9.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HOO-HAA on 16 February, 2014, 08:02:42 pm
Just wrapped on The Bridge Season 2. A good run, for sure, but not up to the very high standard of the first season, I felt.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tjm86 on 17 February, 2014, 05:58:05 pm
Picked up Fringe at Christmas.  Currently on season 3.  Enjoying it much more in a compressed form.  Some of the one liners are absolute class.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 26 February, 2014, 10:01:37 pm
Just finished Breaking Bad and while there seems like point just simply nodding my head in dumb agreement with all the superlatives that get thrown at it - here I am nodding my head in dumb agreement with all the superlatives that get thrown at it.

I think the best thing I can say is its as good as, probably better than The Sopranos. From me there is literally no better compliment I can pay in TV terms at least.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 26 February, 2014, 11:59:13 pm
I am about to conclude my Star Trek TNG binge with only the last (double) episode of series 7 left to watch (possibly next week as I'm off to spend time with my partner for the next five days).  It has been a great journey and it is certainly superior to ToS in every regard.  Especially the wonderful third and fourth series.  My partner has started watching TNG from the beginning recently as well.

Once this has been concluded I am going to move on to Star Trek DS9.  DS9 is my favourite of the bunch and I have been looking forward to watching it again for a while now.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 27 February, 2014, 01:19:22 am
I am about to conclude my Star Trek TNG binge with only the last (double) episode of series 7 left to watch (possibly next week as I'm off to spend time with my partner for the next five days).  It has been a great journey and it is certainly superior to ToS in every regard.  Especially the wonderful third and fourth series.  My partner has started watching TNG from the beginning recently as well.

Once this has been concluded I am going to move on to Star Trek DS9.  DS9 is my favourite of the bunch and I have been looking forward to watching it again for a while now.

That last time-hopping double parter is one of my favourites.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 27 February, 2014, 01:25:22 am
That last time-hopping double parter is one of my favourites.

Yeah, it's magnificent.  The gentle concluding scene is basically as good as these things get.

Shame they fecked it all up just a few months later.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 27 February, 2014, 01:38:26 am
For fans of TNG and the original series/movies.  Objectively, that's a pretty impressive twofer.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: amines2058 on 27 February, 2014, 06:23:34 am
Just started Series 3 following a speed viewing of S1 & S2 of The Walking Dead am enjoying a lot, even if it is not playing out quite like I thought it would be. It is a lot more personal and intimate tale of survival and I like it for that.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Magnetica on 27 February, 2014, 10:30:18 pm
TNG has to be my favourite show of all time and Q Who my favourite episode anything ever.

DS9 eventually comes pretty close. It starts off a bit slow in my opinion - with mostly unconnected stories in the first season. At that point I was thinking it would not be able to maintain the interest - given the station can't go anywhere. Then it developed a really interesting political world around it and a large set of recurring characters to complement the main cast. From that point on it was just so good. Unlike TNG it managed to maintain the quality all the way through - the final 6 episodes (or so) with the Dominion war were just great.

Both series had great last episodes as well.

That the last season of TNG was probably not as good as what went before does not detract from my overall opinion of it. I find I can pretty much endlessly re-watch it and still love it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 12 March, 2014, 05:04:09 pm
After giving up towards the end of season 4, I decided the availability on Netflix of the sixth and final season of The Clone Wars was worth checking out for old times' sake, and it's a frustrating and schizophrenic season that opens strongly with several episodes dedicated to malfunctioning clones and then shifts to a multi-part story about banking loans (really), a multi-part Jar-Jar Binks story based on the racist parts of Temple Of Doom (really really), and then winds down with a pretty good one-off episode about Yoda coming to terms with old age and the ultimate failure of the Jedi in becoming pawns of an evil they refuse to see, slightly undermined as a one-off by being - for some reason - a rambling three-parter, though it's commendable that it actually adds to the original films in terms of Yoda's character.  The banking episodes have some great set-pieces, but these just seem out of place in a supremely dull story where one of the shocking plot twists is that the bad guys raise interest rates - I swear, I am not making that up - while the Temple of Doom episodes I just wished would end sooner as they are actually painful to watch.
The production side of things occasionally borders on spectacular, especially in the opening episode's series of lengthy one-take action scenes, but Tim Curry's take on Darth Sidious (necessary because of the passing of the original voice actor) is maybe a bit too panto-level in places even if his evil laugh makes me crack up every time I hear it and I would not begrudge its inclusion in anything.

It feels on occasion like they're trying too hard to line things up with the movies, but I suppose that's inevitable when they've done such good stuff here that it now has to be ratified to the fixed points of the film storylines.  When it ends on an uplifting down beat, it does really feel like an ending to all that's gone before, and despite the tail-end of the series being such a let-down overall compared to some of the stronger earlier episodes, I would've liked to see more of this version of the Star Wars universe freed from the constrictions of film continuity.  Despite our differences, I'll miss you, Clone Wars.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 12 March, 2014, 05:34:26 pm
I decided the availability on Netflix of the sixth and final season of The Clone Wars was worth checking out for old times' sake, and it's a frustrating and schizophrenic season that opens strongly with several episodes dedicated to malfunctioning clones and then shifts to a multi-part story about banking loans ... (these) episodes have some great set-pieces, but these just seem out of place in a supremely dull story where one of the shocking plot twists is that the bad guys raise interest rates - I swear, I am not making that up

The screen crawl of Phantom Menace concerns the minutia of federal policy regarding trade and taxation, after all. Like all sixties idealists, George turned out to be a solipsistic narcissist who considered acquiring as much personal property as possible to be the ultimate guarantee of the freedom and individuality which he fetishized in his best early work. Happened to the best of them (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZqK97av7I3s#t=6).

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: sheldipez on 12 March, 2014, 05:39:15 pm
it's a frustrating and schizophrenic season

That's every season of Clone Wars!  :lol: And the reason I gave in, it would go from really great to utterly abysmal "I don't think I can sit through this, even if its only 20 minutes long" levels. Though now the whole thing is on Netflix I think I may have to finish it off. There's no way I'm sitting through more Jar Jar or Amidala centered episodes though!

necessary because of the passing of the original voice actor

I feel dumb that despite Army of Darkness and Seinfeld being two of my favorite things, I never knew that Elaine's boss and the wiseman were the same person! Never mind that he went on to Clone Wars. I don't know, stick a beard on someone and he's a different person, maybe there is something behind the Clark Kent glasses thing after all.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 12 March, 2014, 09:04:27 pm
ooh new From Dusk Till Dawn TV series start on Netflix tonight, weekly episode every Wednesday.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: sheldipez on 13 March, 2014, 01:36:24 pm
ooh new From Dusk Till Dawn TV series start on Netflix tonight, weekly episode every Wednesday.

I was interested in this until I heard it was just an expanded remake of the first movie, Rodriguez has been saying it's going to take half of the season to get to the bar.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 23 March, 2014, 09:08:25 pm
Started the fourth series of Breaking Bad after a bit of a break. Interesting to see Marie getting some of the more sympathetic development afforded to Hank in the previous series.

Far more entertaining, however, is Fishing with John. Here's the first episode, Montauk with Jim Jarmusch (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVa8rj1mm7A), in its entirety. It seems there are only six, so I'm saving the double-length finale - Thailand with Dennis Hopper - for the next time I'm feeling a bit low.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 23 March, 2014, 09:21:58 pm
Rewatching Buffy from the start, for the first time since, well, the first time.  Its style of elaborately overwritten quippery is pretty hard to get back into, Boreanaz urgently needs some acting lessons and someone should buy the ELT guy some new bulbs, but Gellar makes for an astonishingly effective lead: she carries the opening episodes single handed as Head, Brenden and Hannigan stumble through their dialogue looking vaguely panicky.  Very enjoyable, and hits the ground running, which I suppose is what having a bit of a flop of a movie under your belt does for you.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 08 April, 2014, 12:45:51 am
..And just finished Season 1.  The completely-forgotten-by-me anti-climactic reveal of Audrey II aside, that was a wonderful dozen episodes.  It was really fascinating watching the cast find their feet, with the noted exception of Gellar who was absolutely perfect from the first minute: what a piece of casting.  By season's end Giles, Cordelia, Willow and Joyce are compelling characters, and even Xander is getting there.  Only Borenaz's Angel continues to be a big ineffectual lemon.

The wheels do come off a bit in the muddled finale, which tries to do too much without really developing any one thread enough, and suffers from ghastly music mixed with cringey use of the main theme, but there are still some fantastic elements: when the much-heralded Annointed finally comes for Buffy, there is none of the usual farce of misdirection - Buffy knows who he is straight off, takes his hand and goes with him in a hugely classy piece of authorial restraint.

As you might notice, I am massively taken by the Buffy character: far from being a blunt instrument of butt-kicking, Buffy actually arrives at most of the solutions to the season's mysteries herself, cutting through Giles' and Willow's reams of exposition with a decisive plan or a critical observation, which is something I think I associated with her much later on in the series (In fact, almost everything starts much earlier on than I remembered it: Cordy's rapprochement, Ms. Calendar's arrival, Luke's slaying). 

Why is there nothing like this on telly today? Or am I missing it?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 08 April, 2014, 07:44:55 am
Rewatching Buffy from the start, for the first time since, well, the first time...And just finished Season 1. 
My own (re)watch has been stalled at the end of season 4 for a few months, so I heartily approve of this project. First time around it was season 2 before I got on the Buffy bus. There is a pretty big jump in the overall assurance of the production between 1 & 2 , but 1 is still a massively endearing and entertaining watch.

Much like Moses Tannenbaum, I was surprised how little Jenny Calendar is actually in the show.
As you might notice, I am massively taken by the Buffy character...In fact, almost everything starts much earlier on than I remembered it: Cordy's rapprochement, Ms. Calendar's arrival, Luke's slaying
Me too. One thing that's really neat about watching it with hindsight is picking up the little bits of foreshadowing sprinkled around every now and then.

For my part, I started watching True Detective last night and had to stop after three episodes so I might actually get up this morning. Bloody hell, it's gripping stuff. I think it's what drugs might be like if drugs were really addictive and awareness of the limited supply would have you torn between the twin desires to gorge yourself on the lot in one go or eke it out as long as possible in the hope of finding more.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 08 April, 2014, 09:21:27 am
I watched all of the first season of American Horror Story recently.  Not bad - a couple of nice twists and turns such as when the daughter died, but we didn't realise until a couple of episodes later.  Also, Connie Britton eh?  Phwoar, eh?  Phwoar! Say no MORE!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 09 April, 2014, 10:51:29 am
Buffy the character is the one I like the least by the end of the show. Season 4 is where she starts to turn...

Angel is terrible throughout Buffy apart from when he's hamming it up as Angelus. His own show would eventually be suprisingly good largely due to his supporting cast and the final season's creativity.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 09 April, 2014, 12:40:19 pm
I have accidentally started watching CASTLE which is a very comfortable* cop show starring Nathan Fillion.

I'm only 5 episodes in but the the last one A CHILL RUNS THROUGH HER VEINS was a genuine cracker of a tale with some really good twisty turny bits built into it and some top notch emoting all round.  The quippery is kept to believable levels.

The only slightly challenging bit is that the opening shot of the episode is normally a beautifully lit and framed shot of a corpse, often in an unusual setting.  There after it's standard cop/mismatched partners/will they or won't they type stuff. 

But none the worse for it. Certainly a lighter way to end the evening with an interesting mystery than CSI.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: amines2058 on 09 April, 2014, 12:53:15 pm
Just started watching the new Hawaii Five-0 from series 1 as I missed it first time around. A few episodes in and it looks quite enjoyable. Anyone else watched / watching, and is it worth sticking with?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: GrinningChimera on 20 April, 2014, 04:44:58 am
Starting Breaking Bad again. Classic stuff.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 20 April, 2014, 06:54:24 pm
Friends loaned me the first series of Game Of Thrones recently, which I watched over the last few days.

Yyyyeeeaahhh... I don't think I'll bother with the rest of it.

I'm actually left with this frustrating feeling that other people are seeing something in this show that I'm not. There's a lot to admire - some great acting and scenery, genius opening sequence, credible sense of scale to the whole story, Peter Dinklage, Lena Headey (le drool)... but for me, the negatives outweigh all that stuff.

What's the point of all the sex and nudity? Really? Or the seemingly mandatory once-per-episode use of the c-word (which, even as a fan of creative profanity, I find utterly vulgar and disgusting)?

I wouldn't say I thought it was 'bad'. I just didn't find it particularly edifying.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 21 April, 2014, 02:47:08 pm
Just started watching the new Hawaii Five-0 from series 1 as I missed it first time around. A few episodes in and it looks quite enjoyable. Anyone else watched / watching, and is it worth sticking with?

I love Hawaii 5-0!  It's pretty great if you like your tv dumb-but-fun, though the lead male (McGarret) remains dull throughout all four seasons so far, and there's a female character introduced at one point who you think might end up being an interesting addition to the team because she isn't immediately paired-off with a male character, until it becomes clear that she's only there because the actress the producers wanted was busy on another show that may or may not have been getting cancelled, and rather than just give the current (better) actress a job, they had her keeping the other actress' seat warm for 16 episodes and she's unceremoniously written-out in something like 7 seconds when the other actress is finally freed up to become the male lead's equally-dull girlfriend.
Danno is great, though, as he's played by the utterly ludicrous Scott Caan ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC9phoBfIXo ), whose career spans acting, modelling, hip-hop production, photography, curing autism with the power of surfing, and touring Hawaiian chat shows telling the people of Hawaii that their island is a shithole - and all of this was before it even dawned on me that his dad is James Caan, which I only twigged when he turned up on H50 as a character who asked if it was okay if he could show up now and then to say how disappointed he was with how Danno was running his life, which for JC must have been a bit like when Sean Connery got paid to do movies where he played golf.  The main baddies for the first few seasons are Crying Freeman/The Crow, and Spike from Buffy being a Northern Irish terrorist with a Scottish accent, and don't even get me started on the show's hilarious approach to product placement, with characters regularly stopping the plot to set up a Microsoft Surface and use it at length, though the writers do occasionally integrate product placement seamlessly and organically into the occasional episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQYwFND7rHE
Also there is an episode about Japanese internment during WW2, which ends with - I shit you not - an elderly Japanese internee apologising to one of his racist guards for thinking he might have been involved in wrongdoing when in fact all he did was participate in the cover-up the robbery and murder of an innocent man for seventy years, which means that the guard was one of the true heroes of WW2.

Gloriously stupid television.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 21 April, 2014, 03:02:52 pm
Friends loaned me the first series of Game Of Thrones recently, which I watched over the last few days.

Yyyyeeeaahhh... I don't think I'll bother with the rest of it.

I'm actually left with this frustrating feeling that other people are seeing something in this show that I'm not. There's a lot to admire - some great acting and scenery, genius opening sequence, credible sense of scale to the whole story, Peter Dinklage, Lena Headey (le drool)... but for me, the negatives outweigh all that stuff.

What's the point of all the sex and nudity? Really? Or the seemingly mandatory once-per-episode use of the c-word (which, even as a fan of creative profanity, I find utterly vulgar and disgusting)?

I wouldn't say I thought it was 'bad'. I just didn't find it particularly edifying.


I utterly, TOTALLY, agree.

This stuff is aimed at me. I have, however, never watched the whole of the first episode. I have tried maybe six or seven times, usually when someone expresses incredulity that I don't watch it. And every time, after 30 or 40 minutes, I think: "This is rubbish."

For what it's worth, I'm Scottish and happen to think Braveheart is the worst film I've ever seen. In the cinema, I turned to the wife about an hour in and asked if she wanted to leave. "No," she said. "It's got a couple of hours left and everyone says this is great. It's got to get better."

It didn't.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 21 April, 2014, 03:54:42 pm
What's the point of all the sex and nudity? Really?

Because it's very consciously trying to establish itself as a different kind of fantasy? You never have the sense in hundreds of pages of Lord of the Rings that Aragorn ever had to drop his kecks behind a bush for a shit while out in the wilds; GoT is meant to be much more grounded in an, umm, earthier pseudo-medieval setting. Otherwise, it's just one more High Fantasy Tolkein knock-off.

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Or the seemingly mandatory once-per-episode use of the c-word (which, even as a fan of creative profanity, I find utterly vulgar and disgusting)?

Ahh. A several of GoT's best lines deploy the c-word to splendid effect. Minorly-spoiler-ish links, concealed to protect delicate eyes from profanity:

"There's no cure for being a c*nt." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13CSWRyaAgA)

"Why are the gods such vicious c*nts?" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upqpS9TTc2c)

"Lots of c*nts." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ItKF3xyci8)


Edit to add: why aren't those fucking spoiler tags working…?

That first one is one my favourite lines from any TV show, ever.

This stuff is aimed at me. I have, however, never watched the whole of the first episode. I have tried maybe six or seven times, usually when someone expresses incredulity that I don't watch it. And every time, after 30 or 40 minutes, I think: "This is rubbish."

The first episode is hard work. It throws something crazy like twenty-odd named, speaking characters and half a dozen significant locations at you and then expects you to keep all that straight in your head while it engages in some really ambitious world-building. Anyone who's ever asked me if it's worth watching has got the same answer: stick with it to the end of episode one, but if you get to the end of episode two and you don't want to watch episode three, don't bother going any further.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 21 April, 2014, 04:41:50 pm
What's the point of all the sex and nudity? Really?

Because it's very consciously trying to establish itself as a different kind of fantasy? You never have the sense in hundreds of pages of Lord of the Rings that Aragorn ever had to drop his kecks behind a bush for a shit while out in the wilds; GoT is meant to be much more grounded in an, umm, earthier pseudo-medieval setting. Otherwise, it's just one more High Fantasy Tolkein knock-off.


Now, see, this is the thing - I can see the merits of adding a measure of this sort of thing to make things feel more credible. But I personally don't like my fantasy to be too realistic. Certainly not if it means the end result is something like GoT.

My bigger beef with all the exposed flesh and grunty-groany is just that it does nothing in my view to build a world or imbue a certain atmosphere - it just feels gratuitous. Season one had at least one scene which really felt to me like the writers said "urrm... this bit's boring. Here! Let's have a naked guy dash on screen so we can wake everyone up with a little full frontal nudity!"

I don't think the show's rubbish by any stretch. But it does feel pointlessly 'adult' in the worst sense. If I could see more story relevance to the stuff I find objectionable (and, I'll admit, in a couple of cases, it's there) I'd not have such a big problem with it.

End of the day, this show just isn't for me. Not rubbish. Just not for me.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 21 April, 2014, 04:46:45 pm
But I personally don't like my fantasy to be too realistic.

I totally get that. I had the same thing with Deadwood. I love Westerns, but the effort to make a more 'adult' Western seemed strained and in the process managed to eliminate whatever it is about Westerns that I love…

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 21 April, 2014, 04:52:59 pm
I had no knowledge of the books and watched the first 4 or so episodes of GoT with a sense of mild amusement, considering it all to be utterly disposable trash TV.

But then around the end of episode 4 'Cripples, Bastards and Broken Things' something just clicked and I was utterly engrossed, and have been ever since. Though it should be noted, even as an avid watcher I ended season 1 still a little confused as to exactly who was who - there are a lot of grizzled men with long hair and beards to keep track of - but the more research you put in, the more you get out of it. It's the perfect example of a show to watch with a companion podcast so you can dissect it afterwards - I listen to a couple and it greatly enriches each episode.

Being deadly serious, though Jim makes a good point, I consider all the sex and nudity stuff as a red herring - it's what got the show noticed and is there primarily to ensnare the casual punter. In all honesty I rather wish they'd tone it down a little as it can often go a bit too far and distract from what makes the show fascinating - the sense of scale, the wonderful characters, the intrigue and incredible world-building.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 21 April, 2014, 05:03:26 pm
My bigger beef with all the exposed flesh and grunty-groany is just that it does nothing in my view to build a world or imbue a certain atmosphere - it just feels gratuitous ... I don't think the show's rubbish by any stretch. But it does feel pointlessly 'adult' in the worst sense.

I just watched all of True Detective, which was fantastic, but it does offer evidence of some obvious HBO box ticking. I'm pretty sure there's a network document out there which explains to show runners that their narrative can be as decompressed and their themes can be as esoteric as they please, just as long as a pretty girl gets her tits out every ninety minutes.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 21 April, 2014, 07:55:28 pm
There's no doubt that teh bewbs and gratuitous humpage are there in large part to attract and hold a certain kind of target viewer's attention, at least as much as to establish any earthy realism, hence the much-lampooned 'sexposition' that makes up much of Seasons 1 and 2.  I'd read the books before watching, and while being impressed by Season 1's enormous ambition I found the attempts at titillation quite off-putting and took my sweet time in catching up with Seasons 2 and 3, which I eventually found more to my taste - although I still tend to groan when everyone commences dropping their kecks.

Incidentally, I understand anyone who says they don't like either the books or the TV series: I honestly thought I was completely done with fantasy novels before reading Game of Thrones, and in fact struggled to get past the first few chapters, before I began to find it compelling.  I could just as easily have found myself on the other side of the fence.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 21 April, 2014, 10:02:55 pm
Great discussion, guys.

I think what comes out of this most for me is that, sure those HBO trappings of south-of-bellybutton adventuring and potty language may grab attention, but they're also just as likely to repulse.

I'm reminded of my sole experience with the show 'Homeland', which is one that family and friends have nagged me to investigate. It's never going to happen, because the only episode I saw was the one where Damian Lewis bundled Clare Danes into the back of her car for a quickie. Utterly bloody horrible, tawdry stuff to behold, in my opinion.

Where GoT is concerned, I find myself thinking 'guys, I see what you're trying to do, but I'd rather you tried a different method, please.' It kind of says something that I felt FATIGUED by the content by the end of season one. I'm kind of curious to know where it goes, but not enough to commit hours to viewing it.

And Jim - your point about Deadwood is excellent. I never saw any of it, but I can appreciate how the execution of something that sits squarely in a certain genre could be off-putting to fans of that genre.
 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 21 April, 2014, 10:32:37 pm

This stuff is aimed at me. I have, however, never watched the whole of the first episode. I have tried maybe six or seven times, usually when someone expresses incredulity that I don't watch it. And every time, after 30 or 40 minutes, I think: "This is rubbish."

The first episode is hard work. It throws something crazy like twenty-odd named, speaking characters and half a dozen significant locations at you and then expects you to keep all that straight in your head while it engages in some really ambitious world-building. Anyone who's ever asked me if it's worth watching has got the same answer: stick with it to the end of episode one, but if you get to the end of episode two and you don't want to watch episode three, don't bother going any further.


Oh, go on then. It's downloadable on Sky so I'll stick them on my box and give it another go.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 21 April, 2014, 11:33:37 pm
Being deadly serious, though Jim makes a good point, I consider all the sex and nudity stuff as a red herring - it's what got the show noticed and is there primarily to ensnare the casual punter. In all honesty I rather wish they'd tone it down a little as it can often go a bit too far and distract from what makes the show fascinating - the sense of scale, the wonderful characters, the intrigue and incredible world-building.

Fair play to Emilia Clarke (Daenerys Targaryen), who threatened to quit if they didn't tone down her gratuitous nude scenes - they did.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 22 April, 2014, 10:26:19 am
Deadwood was amazing. It was the Wire of the West. Everything was so dirty in that town and a showdown at noon rarely solved anything.

Too much sexposition in GoT I agree but sadly I think that is part of its appeal to a wider audience.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 22 April, 2014, 04:45:51 pm
Deadwood was amazing. It was the Wire of the West. Everything was so dirty in that town and a showdown at noon rarely solved anything.

This. I lluuuuuuurrrvve Deadwood. It is as deep as the sea - I find something new in it every time I watch it - people harp on about dying being a big deal in GoT and it is but the deaths of characters in Deadwood still haunt me to this day. :'(
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 22 April, 2014, 04:52:44 pm
This. I lluuuuuuurrrvve Deadwood. It is as deep as the sea - I find something new in it every time I watch it - people harp on about dying being a big deal in GoT and it is but the deaths of characters in Deadwood still haunt me to this day. :'(

I don't feel nearly as attached to Deadwood as some, but the tragic story of Reverend Smith remains one of the most affecting things I've ever seen...  :'( It's like the last episode of Band of Brothers, I just can't watch without shedding a manly tear or two.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 22 April, 2014, 04:55:40 pm
And every one of us heard a gnarled Ian McShane snarl "Cocksucker" at least once just now.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 22 April, 2014, 08:04:18 pm
Deadwood did something amazing in making the mythical appallingly ugly, and then finding real beauty in all that ugliness. Anytime I'm made to feel a prude for disliking some specific bit of profanity or finding some sex-thing unnecessarily exploitative I remind myself that I love every minute of Deadwood.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 22 April, 2014, 08:28:24 pm
Deadwood did something amazing in making the mythical appallingly ugly, and then finding real beauty in all that ugliness. Anytime I'm made to feel a prude for disliking some specific bit of profanity or finding some sex-thing unnecessarily exploitative I remind myself that I love every minute of Deadwood.

Beautifully, beautifully said. It's such a shame that Milch's incomprehensible John From Cincinnati & horse-deathtacular Luck didn't capture the same magic. Although the latter has some very strong scenes - Dustin Hoffman versus Mike Gambon both in full powerful Al Swearengen mode is quite stunning. Frustratingly HBO passed on his next project 'The Money' which was going to feature the brilliant Brendan Gleeson as a mighty patriach and cynical media mogul set in modern New York. Sigh. We'll always have Deadwood though...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 22 April, 2014, 08:49:18 pm
Deadwood was so masterpiece! I agree about those deaths left long in your memory. Great casting to be honest.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 22 April, 2014, 08:59:12 pm
the tragic story of Reverend Smith remains one of the most affecting things I've ever seen...  :'( It's like the last episode of Band of Brothers, I just can't watch without shedding a manly tear or two.

Agreed, a hard watch.
I only 'discovered' Deadwood a few years ago, and gorged on the lot in a few weeks.
TV has rarely been better.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 22 April, 2014, 09:42:45 pm
Farscape... back on Pick TV from last night :)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 28 April, 2014, 01:17:44 am
Now settled in to Season 3 of our Buffy rewatch.  I actually can't get over how good this show is, or how fast it moves - both in terms of pacing within episodes (which almost never sag) and in terms of how relentlessly new characters and situations are introduced, developed and even discarded.  Wherever I noticed weaknesses earlier on, these have been thoroughly addressed - even Boreanaz' Angel, the great wooden lemon of the first season, has passed through his far more entertaining but ultimately terribly hammy evil incarnation in Season 2 to become an interesting well-acted character, and his previously rather unconvincing relationship with Buffy now feels genuine. 

Most fascinating is the time spent establishing the rich and quite touching central family group of Buffy, Giles and Joyce: all the broader, flashier relationship stuff is anchored by this core. 

Probably the most consistently satisfying re-watch of a long-running genre show that I've yet undertaken: at no point is there any sense of dutifully slogging on to get to the 'good stuff' - it's all good stuff.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 28 April, 2014, 07:37:06 am
Now settled in to Season 3 of our Buffy rewatch.  I actually can't get over how good this show is, or how fast it moves - both in terms of pacing within episodes (which almost never sag) and in terms of how relentlessly new characters and situations are introduced, developed and even discarded.

Oddly enough, we're currently doing the same (albeit only mid-way through Season 2) with much the same feeling — it really is that good, and it depresses me that:

1) There are people who still refuse to watch Buffy on the basis of what they think the series is going to be like

2) Eleven years since its cancellation, it's still so singularly good.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: 8-Ball on 28 April, 2014, 12:51:40 pm
BtVS was (and still is) the best TV show... ever. I wasn't a big fan to begin with when BBC2 were showing it but I took a gamble and bought the season one box set on VHS at the end of 1999. That was me hooked.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 28 April, 2014, 02:16:33 pm

Generation War - BBC2

The story of five German friends in the years from 1941 to 1945: five young women and men whose friendship was meant to last their whole lives.

Berlin, the summer of 1941. Wilhelm, Friedhelm, Charlotte, Viktor and Greta meet to say their farewells. Little do they know how war will change them.


I miss 1st Part of 3-Parts series of it last Saturday and lucky to catch it on iPlayer, what a great opening episode, looking forward to watch next 2 episodes.

Also it subtitled as it filmed in Germans.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 28 April, 2014, 03:22:43 pm
Buffy ...Eleven years since its cancellation,

so that means 17 years since it began - holy crap, where does the time go?

.......in my day, this was all fields
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 28 April, 2014, 04:05:19 pm
.......in my day, this was all cemeteries

FYP

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 28 April, 2014, 04:38:01 pm
Okay so I'm currently just starting on The Wire. Now to be fair to it its reputation is such that to match it would be a challenge and I'm only three episodes in BUT... well it was coming... its good, very good... but its not anywhere near Breaking Bad or The Sopranos so far for me.

The issue I have is the core of the story isn't massively interesting, or rather original. I've seen a gazillion tales of how grim and gritty it is being a bizzy in downtown... wherever, be it Baltimore in this case, or New York, or LA - all over it would seem. How hard bitten the cops are, how damaged their live and corrupted the system etc etc. The Police side of things really isn't doing anything new. The characters seem born out of cliche... on that side of the coin. Now given the experience of the writers I have no reason to suspect its not accurate, but as drama its hardly original now, or back in 2002 when it started.

The gangs side is far more compelling and refreshing and those elements I enjoy much more. On the whole though I'm a little underwhelmed.

Is it a victim of my expectations? Will it get better? Am I just being daft?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 28 April, 2014, 04:44:55 pm
yep you being daft, it getting better into the Wire series, thought Series 2 was the best of all. You would like follow more characters on it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 28 April, 2014, 05:12:42 pm
Is it a victim of my expectations?

Undoubtedly - I know a lot of people who have attempted and given up on The Wire in the first or second season because it didn't tick the right boxes for them personally - just because something is critically acclaimed doesn't mean you'll love it, after all! It's not the same as Sopranos or Breaking Bad no - it's slightly less bombastic than both of those - being quite a dense character thing that requires a lot of serious watching. I'm trying to remember what made me stick with it - as I remember being bewildered by it completely to start with. Something happens further along in Season 1 that really flipped me out - and I was hooked right after that.

A lot of my favourite ever TV series are growers - and they alone convince me as they run along and The Wire has unfortunately been choked by reputation. I imagine getting into it now you feel like you're being poked by a big stick every five minutes going "YOU SHOULD BE LOVING THIS - WHY AREN'T YOU?!". I say no - don't give up on it yet perhaps as it definitely gets more absorbing the further you go - but at the same time don't feel you have to love it! That'll make you bitter for spending the time with it - ! I thought the first season of Breaking Bad was terribly uneven for example - strong start, strong finish - soggy boring middle that I was really confused about "THEY'RE ALL RAVING ABOUT THIS?!" I thought - !

I know this chap - who recently failed to watch The Deer Hunter. He went on Facebook and said "hey - I've sat through an hour of this shit and they've done nothing - I'm giving up" :S
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 28 April, 2014, 05:13:37 pm
Okay so I'm currently just starting on The Wire ... Is it a victim of my expectations? Will it get better? Am I just being daft?

Yes, yes, and no. I found series 2 a chore, and The Wire is more like The Sopranos than Breaking Bad, in that it's really more about enjoying the characters (and eventually some very big thematic resonances) than some meticulously worked out macro-plot being fed to you in small, carefully rationed pieces at intervals determined by season breaks and Nielson sweep weeks. Plot ain't its strong suit, and sometimes it feels like they're making it up as they go along, but there's some genuinely fantastic stuff in there if you're prepared to take the show on its own terms.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 28 April, 2014, 05:23:13 pm
The only issue with The Wire is that you must put aside the expectations drilled into you by decades of unceasing, wall to wall convention. That is what I really enjoyed.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 28 April, 2014, 05:25:46 pm
the thing I liked about the Wire is the way it told similar (and often interlinked) stories but each series had a different focus - the first was the cops, subsequent series focus on the Mayor's office, the unions and the press.

I'm anticipating a similar over-hyping reaction when I finally get around to Breaking Bad.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 28 April, 2014, 07:51:27 pm
the thing I liked about the Wire is the way it told similar (and often interlinked) stories but each series had a different focus - the first was the cops, subsequent series focus on the Mayor's office, the unions and the press

Like those hobby magazines they used to advertise on telly every January, it builds week by week into a comprehensive inventory of all human society's ills - it just takes its time getting there.

The Buffy discussion has made me realise how much that show has influenced all telly, even the likes of Breaking Bad and Boardwalk Empire. Once you catch onto what Whedon is doing structurally - a different villain every season, and each episode forming part of a larger narrative which runs over that season, building to a huge series-spanning arc - it's addictive, and anything without that dynamic feels as tedious and desultory as free form jazz. Any show that doesn't tease you and indulge you with tasty morsels of continuity cake in the manner pioneered by Buffy now just feels like its being deliberately difficult.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 28 April, 2014, 09:15:59 pm
Wow - thanks for the thoughts all. Was expecting a reaction, but more the getting run out of town, pitchfork and burning torches type!

Seriously though I did some careful reading before diving in (my wife and I had a long discussion about what to got for next after finishing Breaking Bad - worried whatever it was would suffer post BB withdrawal comparisons... which it might also be suffering from) and it was the dense characteristation that most intrigued us and that, at least in half I'm not finding yet. As I say the cops to this point aren't offering me much new. At the same time I'm finding it okay to follow (might be me missing stuff of course!) and have only had one "Hold on who was that" moment with my wife asking last night who McNulty was being warned about at the end of episode three and that wasn't even I tricky one I think my wife was just dead tired!

Still early days and the series structure (different focus each season) really appeals to me.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 28 April, 2014, 09:46:59 pm
Any show that doesn't tease you and indulge you with tasty morsels of continuity cake in the manner pioneered by Buffy now just feels like its being deliberately difficult.

There's an interesting phenomenon with the better episodic shows of that style  - if you're reasonably confident of the thought that's going into something you can start to stitch together ingredients to make your own 'continiuity cake' which, if the show is really working, complements the intentional one.  The example that highlighted this for me was a Season 2 (or maybe very start of Season 3) Buffy episode where Xander remarks, after a spot of fill-in slaying, "it's all fun and games until someone loses an eye". 

Now this is a common throwaway phrase, and I really can't believe it was part of anything intentional at the time, but in a show where most incidental little mysteries and apparent non-sequitors come back to haunt the cast many episodes down the line ("get back before dawn", for example), or where background characters - virtual extras - maybe have a single line or a reaction shot every other episode for 2 or 3 seasons before suddenly moving centre stage (Jonathan, say), it's hard not to weave these details together.  And maybe Whedon, retrospectively, really does draw on this innocent remark when he introduces his Firefly refugees to Sunnydale 4 or 5 years later.

Long-winded way of saying: it's not just a simple case of a show having a larger structure drip-fed through nested layers of pace, it's where this process is subtle, reliable and challenging enough to allow the viewer to do their own world-building around it without regular disappointments.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Magnetica on 28 April, 2014, 11:41:40 pm
For me the Wire is all about the characters. There are just so many of them and the lines between what is "good" and "bad" are so blurred.

Personal favourites are Omar and Avon. Oh and Clay Davis (just for his catch phrase).

Really loved it..must get round to watching it again a some point

The other thing is who is the actual protagonist? That would be Jimmy McNulty right? Well how can that be when he pretty much doesn't appear in season two at all (except maybe for 5 mins in the first episode.)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 29 April, 2014, 12:34:44 am
The example that highlighted this for me was a Season 2 (or maybe very start of Season 3) Buffy episode where Xander remarks, after a spot of fill-in slaying, "it's all fun and games until someone loses an eye".
See also: Willow's comment about her evil doppelganger "looking a bit gay." Or is that a definitely deliberate one?

Okay so I'm currently just starting on The Wire ... Is it a victim of my expectations? Will it get better? Am I just being daft?
Yes, yes, and no. I found series 2 a chore, and The Wire is more like The Sopranos than Breaking Bad, in that it's really more about enjoying the characters (and eventually some very big thematic resonances) than some meticulously worked out macro-plot being fed to you in small, carefully rationed pieces.
Most of what he said apart from the bit about series 2, which popped through my letterbox along with the Prog on a Saturday morning and I'd watched the whole lot by Sunday evening.

I certainly remember thinking the cop characters were nothing new for the first couple of episodes but they did grow on me and you've already picked up on the dealers being more interesting than them. This is a big part of the point of the programme for me: it's trying to draw a picture of the world in which this happens and maybe suggest reasons people become involved on all sides and why it doesn't change. As others have said, the ramshackle, investigative plot is just a way of allowing them to poke into different corners.

In the end, there's nothing you can do if it's not for you and your point about the weight of expectations may be right. I have the inverse relationship with Breaking Bad and The Wire to your own.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 29 April, 2014, 07:10:37 am
For me the Wire is all about the characters. There are just so many of them and the lines between what is "good" and "bad" are so blurred. Personal favourites are Omar and Avon. Oh and Clay Davis (just for his catch phrase)

I'm sure if they'd been planning the whole thing out like a proper show Clay Davis would have popped up at regular intervals throughout the series to do his catchphrase, like Woody Woodpecker. It is fucking brilliant, though, and his fantastic performance during the climactic trial proves he ain't a one trick pony.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Daveycandlish on 06 May, 2014, 10:16:27 am
80s tv show TRIPODS.
Okay so there's some dodgy acting and very 80s effects and the tripods don't appear half as much as you want them to but this is bloody good. I never actually saw the second series when it was broadcast (probably because the early teen me wanted more effects than the first series had given me so I gave up on it) but I'm hooked now (and not because it features lots of young men in shorts dancing in a club called The Pink Parrot!) - I really wish they had made the third and final series. I'll just have to buy the books instead.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Ancient Otter on 06 May, 2014, 10:34:21 pm

The other thing is who is the actual protagonist? That would be Jimmy McNulty right? Well how can that be when he pretty much doesn't appear in season two at all (except maybe for 5 mins in the first episode.)


Not sure I'd agree with you on that, I think you are underestimating his role in that season

Season 2 was the series I started with The Wire so I'm pretty fond of that one, coming home after working evening shifts and turning on TG4 (the Irish language channel of the national broadcaster who have great taste in picking up US programs that the main Irish channels should - Oz, Carnivale, Breaking Bad...)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 07 May, 2014, 10:07:59 am
The BBC really dropped the ball in how it broadcasted the Wire. Every episode one after the other each week at different times on different channels with no repeats, at one point with several episodes in one week. Like they were burning through it as fast as possible and if you missed one you'd be bang out of luck.

Given that it only started broadcasting it as the 5th series was underway you'd have thought they'd have a more planned approach. However I doubt any converts were made to the Wire by its run on the BBC.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 07 May, 2014, 12:22:44 pm
Funnily enough, Blaze, my one and only attempt at watching The Wire was via the BBC broadcasts. Maybe it contributed to the utter apathy I felt at what was supposed to be such an 'event' series. I don't think I watched a single pair of episodes in sequence due to the crazy way it was scheduled, and I couldn't even tell you what series the ones I did watch were from. None of the characters made an impression, none of the storylines registered, not a single thing about it got my attention.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 07 May, 2014, 12:37:35 pm
It really works better on a slow burn.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 07 May, 2014, 12:41:47 pm
Yeah, I don't blame the series itself. Always meant to give it another shot one day.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 08 May, 2014, 01:13:18 pm
Just started watching MODERN FAMILY - an american sit-com about life in a modern family. 

There's a traditional husband and wife and 2.2 kids as one strand but also some less than traditional couples and offspring. It's done in "Office" style i.e. people speaking directly to an unseen interviewer at points but also able to cast some great glances to camera during otherwise normal scenes.

I must say, I like it. There are some great characters, some fantastically crafted gags (that aren't always obviously "set-up/punchline" or sarcastic quippery).

Some issues - everybody is very pleasantly well off and the mums are all stay at home and often "let the dads win" to keep the peace. What is this, 1970?

But other than that, I find it very smart slice of (unattainable) life comedy.

And I'm totally in love with one of the cast members. Not Sofia Vergara (who, to quote "looks like she fell off a mud flap") but the marvellous Cam. The thought of his Lion King still makes me laugh.

Right, you can all slate me now because it's so boring and traditional and not in the slightest bit edgy.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 08 May, 2014, 01:48:16 pm
You can only be truly poor in America if your family is involved in crime, substance abuse, or if you are in possession of a different skin colour. Or at least that's what the TV tells me. Otherwise you can afford a massive apartment with a terrace in the middle of New York on the salary of a waitress and a chef.


Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 08 May, 2014, 02:21:07 pm
It's not just an American thing, British tv is very middle class-centric, too.
Having said that, I think Modern Family has an in-built excuse because of the reality/documentary conceit, as the show-within-a-show is following a "normalised" family unit rather than one in extreme circumstances (such as poverty), though there's plenty of US shows about poor people, like 2 Broke Girls, Devious Maids (which technically qualifies even if there are rich people in it), Mom or the Fosters.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Keef Monkey on 08 May, 2014, 02:22:56 pm
Modern Family has become our teatime sitcom now Tips, I wrote it off quite early on but it won me over and now I'm really enjoying it. Some great moments and performances in that show.

I decided on a whim to figure out where I left off 24 and pick it up again, so I've just jumped back in towards the end of season 6. I'd stopped because I got a bit burnt out on it and wasn't feeling it anymore, but coming back fresh the hooks are right back in. I just love it, and mainly because it's ludicrous. Guaranteed I'll gasp at something insane at about the 58mins mark in every single episode. It's mental but brilliant, brilliant tv.
Title: Re: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 08 May, 2014, 03:55:50 pm
Just started watching MODERN FAMILY - an american sit-com about life in a modern family. 

There's a traditional husband and wife and 2.2 kids as one strand but also some less than traditional couples and offspring. It's done in "Office" style i.e. people speaking directly to an unseen interviewer at points but also able to cast some great glances to camera during otherwise normal scenes.

I must say, I like it. There are some great characters, some fantastically crafted gags (that aren't always obviously "set-up/punchline" or sarcastic quippery).

Some issues - everybody is very pleasantly well off and the mums are all stay at home and often "let the dads win" to keep the peace. What is this, 1970?

But other than that, I find it very smart slice of (unattainable) life comedy.

And I'm totally in love with one of the cast members. Not Sofia Vergara (who, to quote "looks like she fell off a mud flap") but the marvellous Cam. The thought of his Lion King still makes me laugh.

Right, you can all slate me now because it's so boring and traditional and not in the slightest bit edgy.

Not at all, I've mentioned many times on this thread about my love for Modern Family. A genuinely funny family sitcom with broad appeal is a rare thing.

Be warned though, it (IMO) completely goes off a cliff after season 2. Every episode from 3.1 onwards almost entirely lacks the charm and wit of what came before. Even my girlfriend, who held on longer than me, have up on it midway through season 4.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 08 May, 2014, 05:02:48 pm
You can only be truly poor in America if your family is involved in crime, substance abuse, or if you are in possession of a different skin colour. Or at least that's what the TV tells me. Otherwise you can afford a massive apartment with a terrace in the middle of New York on the salary of a waitress and a chef.

It was a rent controlled (http://my.telegraph.co.uk/expat/sophiepitman/10151459/the-myth-of-nyc-rent-control/) apartment, and Monica had to pretend her Grandma (the official tenant) was still living there to hold onto the lease - they did a whole episode about it, so it wasn't just a yuppie fantasy. The conspicuous wealth of characters in US film and TV fascinated me as a kid; all those John Hughes teenagers living in two-storey clapboard mansions making unmetered calls on the phones they had in their rooms and holidaying in The Islands. Roseanne was the only exception.

I just assume that's because very few of the US nationals who manage to get their work on screen come from a working class * background or have any experience of that form of existence. That's largely true of successful UK screenwriters too, they just feel more guilty about their privilege than their counterparts in the aspirational US, and so inflict wretchedly clichéd portrayals of what they imagine working class people and their lives are probably like upon viewers.


* that term's a synonym for bum or trailer trash in the context of the US - almost anyone with a job figures themselves as middle class
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 08 May, 2014, 07:07:15 pm
It's not just film and tv - yank comics in recent years seem to have migrated focus from the slums of NYC to the beaches of Los Angeles.  I think I noticed it first with Runaways - a comic whose cast never seemed to encounter poor people and who always lived in lush mansions despite the premise of the book being that they were homeless kids "making it on their own" or something.  The in-house art preference seems to have changed at Marvel to reflect this, too - switching from scratchy, gritty realism to bold, slightly abstract manga styles.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 08 May, 2014, 07:24:25 pm
...they did a whole episode about it, so it wasn't just a yuppie fantasy.

Similarly the Simpsons, supposedly eternally teetering on the brink of poverty, appear to live in a detached house with a vast garden, basement, attic, garage and four bedrooms. But again this became the subject of an episode, with Frank Grimes as the incredulous observer. 

At least Lois and Hal from Malcolm in the Middle had a shit lawn and had to get by with two bedrooms. 

The bit that always got me was Ferris bitching about getting a kickass computer with a modem and a synthesiser instead of a car like his sister.  Boo-drokkin'-hoo, Bueller,
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 08 May, 2014, 10:45:14 pm
Also British stuff clearly does it better. The doctor's place is the definition of a box room and even Sherlock has to lodge at someone's house.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 09 May, 2014, 04:53:52 pm
The bit that always got me was Ferris bitching about getting a kickass computer with a modem and a synthesiser instead of a car like his sister.  Boo-drokkin'-hoo, Bueller

I always took the modem and computer line to be a reference to Broderick's character in War Games. Which I suppose could mean Ferris's sister got her car as compensation for her nasty experience of sexual predation by a much older member of staff at Summer camp (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HFK_i5r1WJk#t=39).

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Batman's Superior Cousin on 14 May, 2014, 09:28:16 pm
At any one time, my TV schedule would comprise of either of the following: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Boardwalk Empire, Doctor Who, Endeavour, Game of Thrones, The Blacklist, True Detective and Utopia.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: IronGraham on 14 May, 2014, 09:57:06 pm
For me my current habbit is mad men
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 15 May, 2014, 08:03:23 am
Been watching Adventure Tim. Shame on me for not getting into it sooner! What a bloody fun series!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 15 May, 2014, 09:23:21 am
Powered  through all of Young Justice. Not a bad replacement for the DCAU of old at all. Shame it was cancelled and nowt has replaced it really
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 15 May, 2014, 09:45:48 am
Rupaul's Drag Race, via Netflix.

Steamrollered through seasons five, four and one- now going through season two. Glorious.

SBT
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 20 May, 2014, 12:48:13 pm
Still continuing with MODERN FAMILY and CASTLE. Both on Season 2.

Modern Family continues to charm and delight and provide big laughs. 

Castle is even more formulaic than previously - not to say the individual stories don't have good twists etc. but it's all a bit predictable. Sadly, they've ditched the bit I liked most - the beutiful lit corpse at the start of the show. But in it's defence, it has had a great Firefly gag and Kate Beckett (Stana Katic) said she reads comics. A nice light nightcap of a programme.

Both shows also give me a feeling of "where have I seen them before?" about nearly every cast member - and, with the obvious exceptions of Nathan Fillion and Ed O'Neill, I can't work out where.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 20 May, 2014, 01:58:38 pm
Off the top of me head, Beckett was the voice of Talia Al Ghul in the Arkham games, and was the lady at the end of Quantum of Solace that Bond told to leave the room.  Castle's mum was Greg's mum in Dharma and Greg, Castle's daughter does squeaky voices for one of those dreadful Disney cartoons about fairies with giant heads and very little clothing, the hispanic detective guy was in the Shield and Generation Kill, Captain MK1 did voice work on Gargoyles and Spawn, Captain MK2 was Sisko's missus in Deep Space 9, and Castle was in some shite space cowboy thing for nerds that didn't last a full season.  The murderers/suspects are 99 percent of the time played by actors from other tv shows that you will recognise, but probably not care enough to Google.

I like Castle and it really does stop trying in later seasons, but it still has its moments, like the shameless/pointless rip-off of Kirk's birth from the first Trek reboot movie that makes no sense at all, an episode with a time traveler, and a mystery at a sci-fi convention where the murder weapon is a phaser set to kill instead of stun, and which guest-stars lots of Trek alumni.  Also Mr Worf is Beckett's psychiatrist for some reason.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 20 May, 2014, 02:44:07 pm
Captain MK2 was Sisko's missus in Deep Space 9

She was President Denis Haysbert's evil wife in 24, too…

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Satanist on 20 May, 2014, 03:16:14 pm
My missus loves Castel (the man and the show) but the only episode Ive seen was the Time travel one. Its the best bit of crap telly Ive seen in years.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 20 May, 2014, 05:01:06 pm

Her name's Beverley, and she used to get Larry Sanders (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4hMC-YOuCQ)'s ointment for him.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 22 May, 2014, 06:37:29 pm
Well I could google it as well but where is the fun in that?

Pleasures our children will never know #247: Leaving the pub not knowing the answer to an argument.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Ghost MacRoth on 22 May, 2014, 06:49:25 pm
Vikings

Violent, gritty, well shot, well acted, beautiful design, and most importantly characters that engage my interest (regarding their fate).  Done 2 seasons now, and impatient for more!!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 22 May, 2014, 09:39:55 pm
Well I could google it as well but where is the fun in that?

Pleasures our children will never know #247: Leaving the pub not knowing the answer to an argument.

So true.  Since I got one of those newfangled smarties-phone things I now point-blank refuse to google things I should know/remember (as opposed to things I definitely don't know).   A day or two of racking my feeble brain has to be better than a few seconds of typing on that miniscule screen, surely?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 23 May, 2014, 10:46:52 pm
Person of Interest - started off slow but I'm really enjoying the adventures of the Punisher and Oracle.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 23 May, 2014, 10:59:20 pm
Started on Kolchak The Night Stalker, which has quite the reputation to uphold.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 24 May, 2014, 10:31:46 am
Vikings

Violent, gritty, well shot, well acted, beautiful design, and most importantly characters that engage my interest (regarding their fate).  Done 2 seasons now, and impatient for more!!

I loved season 1.
RTE began broadcasting it a few months back, and after 3 episodes I ventured west to plunder the DVD instead of waiting.
Eagerly awaiting season 2, and beyond.
The historical events it's loosely based on promise much to come.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: 8-Ball on 24 May, 2014, 01:34:02 pm
Parks And Recreation. I am in the middle of season five. I know people like 'em but I've have had my fill of those (now tedious) blood n' boobs cable shows where everyone acts like a dick to one another. I get enough of that in real life (more the dickishness and less the boobs or blood) so Parks & Rec is good solid escapism. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 24 May, 2014, 02:40:20 pm
It's Buffy 5 round my manor. While there were certainly episodesof earlier series which I hadn't seen, this is getting into territory I know very little about. While it retains the same sense of fun and works hard to address the characters' changing situations, I've always thought the Buffy and Spike romance was a really stupid development and far too much time is spent building that up.

The good still far outweighs the bad.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 24 May, 2014, 06:55:55 pm
You're ahead of me! We're racing towards the finish of Buffy Season 4 in our house, eagerly devouring it as every episode is better than the last.  I'd always though Season 4 was a bit unfocused following the loss of the shared school setting (swinging between College, Giles' place and Xander's basement), but in fact it all works brilliantly, with some great character bits and really clever foreshadowing that is definitely intentional this time.  Also, refreshingly Angel-lite
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mardroid on 24 May, 2014, 11:45:35 pm
Season 1 of Game of Thrones.
Having no plans with friends I've watched four episodes tody and about to watch more. Unfortunately, having read the book and the fact is pretty faithful means most of the story is already known to me, but it's a good watch just the same.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Proteus4 on 25 May, 2014, 04:39:17 am
Started on Kolchak The Night Stalker, which has quite the reputation to uphold.

oh - I loved that show.  It used to be on late nights when i was in my early teens and i recorded all of them and watched them over and over again.  I'm gonna have to buy it on DVD now that you've reminded me of it.

Dave
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 25 May, 2014, 07:05:42 am
Well in my continuing adventures of 'The Wire' I've been increasingly getting into it and enjoying it. Last night we watched episode 11 (still season 1) and the tension and eventual heart stopping cliffhanger at the end of an attempted sting in a Baltimore back alley left me aware just how much I'm invested in the characters - even the less interesting 'cop' side of things.

I hereby retract my initial reservations... mind its no Breaking Bad... yet.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 25 May, 2014, 07:56:17 am
Well in my continuing adventures of 'The Wire' I've been increasingly getting into it and enjoying it. Last night we watched episode 11 (still season 1) and the tension and eventual heart stopping cliffhanger at the end of an attempted sting in a Baltimore back alley left me aware just how much I'm invested in the characters - even the less interesting 'cop' side of things.

I hereby retract my initial reservations... mind its no Breaking Bad... yet.

:D :D :D

I'm trying to remember what made me stick with it - as I remember being bewildered by it completely to start with. Something happens further along in Season 1 that really flipped me out - and I was hooked right after that.

This was indeed that.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 05 June, 2014, 12:45:47 pm
Found THE THICK OF IT on Lovefilm  I've seen plenty of episodes but never sat down in order.  First three an absolute treat!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 05 June, 2014, 01:14:46 pm
"No, he's useless. He's absolutely useless. He's as useless as a marzipan dildo."
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 05 June, 2014, 06:25:53 pm
My favourite Tuckerism: (KNOCK KNOCK)  "come the fuck in or fuck the fuck off" - which I've used many times since!
Title: Re: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 06 June, 2014, 02:42:51 pm
"What is this? Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Cunt?"
Title: Re: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 06 June, 2014, 03:03:38 pm
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Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: GrinningChimera on 09 June, 2014, 10:46:47 pm
Watching The Comic Strip Presents..... remembering Rik Mayall in my own little way. Classic stuff.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 13 June, 2014, 10:15:07 pm
Orange Is the New Black season 2 on Netflix.

Much like season 1, this is extraordinarily good TV - witty, sharp and often moving writing, top-notch production values and one of the most talented casts of unknowns* I've ever seen in anything - every character infused with real humanity and vulnerability. My main complaint with the first run - too much time dedicated to the main character's slightly far-fetched and tedious lesbian love triangle plot - seems to have been addressed - Piper works best as a window through which we get to know all of the other characters.

If you've dismissed this series as being 'girly' then think again - you're seriously missing out.

*Plus the guy from American Pie and Janeway from Star Trek.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 13 June, 2014, 11:07:03 pm
I'm not enjoying season 2 really.

Person of Interest is however getting much much more interesting, AI finally steps forward into the narrative and the superhero/vigilantes are getting more and more knowingly OTT.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: GrinningChimera on 14 June, 2014, 06:47:42 am
Hannibal.

Watch the first 2 episodes today. Will get round to watching the rest of season 1 tomorrow hopefully. Enjoying it so far. I was ready for some pretty shocking stuff which I'm still waiting on, but I've heard it gets more brutal as the season goes on so I will wait and see.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: IronGraham on 14 June, 2014, 06:57:59 pm
Just started true detective
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 20 June, 2014, 02:42:48 am
Well, I just wrapped up 'Elfen Lied', which had been sat on my little stack of anime for way too long.

I'd kind of gotten anime'd out, which, in spite of my being a lifelong fan of the stuff, does happen every few years or so. But I'd heard enough praise for the show to dig it out.

Cannot stress this enough - I REALLY think it's the sort of show a lot of the regulars on this board would enjoy.

It kind of works in spite of itself at times - the voice acting is a little hard to take (LOTS of breathy-voiced, saccharine-sweet girls in this) and there are some real clangers in the script at times. As in 'oh my god did this actually get past an editor' clangers.

BUT...

What makes the show work is that it actually deals with some weighty stuff, has pretty appealing characters, a set up that feels fresh, and - let's not sugar coat this - it's GNARLY AS ALL GET OUT. I felt genuinely unsettled by the first episode, which contains probably more bloody violence in 20 minutes than I saw in all the anime I watched last year.

Inventive stuff, played out with great conviction and suitable gravitas. And the final episode was pretty much perfect. Recommended.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 20 June, 2014, 08:34:03 am
Onto the last few episodes of Angel Season 1 here, as a side-project of the Buffy rewatch, and despite never having thought that highly of the spin-off show, it has really grown on me.  By the latter third of the season Boreanaz has finally squeezed some personality into Angel, and the writers have found some interesting things for him to say.  An increasingly leathery Cordelia isn't as sharply funny as she was (although still fun), and the intensely (intentionally) annoying Wesley has had some of the more jagged edges filed off.  Most tellingly every time Buffy appears as a Very Special Guest Star I wish she would piss off home, which is quite an achievement given my affection for the character and general lack of interest in her BFF.

I'm most impressed by the way the show has changed over 20-odd episodes, surviving the unfortunate loss of Doyle, reining back the use of Detective Kate, and establishing its own tone.  It certainly didn't hit the ground running the way Buffy did, but its tribulations have been interesting and the results more so.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 20 June, 2014, 08:42:30 am
Oh Angel will get better by Season 2. Oh lucky you for first time to watch Season 3 and 4, that was great!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 20 June, 2014, 09:50:59 am
Who would win in a fight? Cavemen or Astronauts?

It's SMILE TIME :)

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 20 June, 2014, 08:34:30 pm
Who would win in a fight? Cavemen or Astronauts?

It's SMILE TIME :)

Never seen it. I had given up on Angel by that time, but it's definitely one of the episodes I'm most looking forward to watching - the designs look great.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 20 June, 2014, 09:26:04 pm
I think you're in for a genuine treat if you haven't seen much of Angel, TB.
A very slickly produced show.
Season 3, my personal favourite, had an almost dizzying arc, with the status quo constantly shifting in unexpected and thoroughly entertaining ways.
Boreanaz was superb throughout the five years, inspiring impressionable young-ish Squaxx to style their hair in ever unfeasible manners, and broodily wear long black coats, even in the summer. Cough.

It's Wesley's character that received the most satisfying development however, literally stealing the scenes by the end.
I never put together an official top-ten TV shows in my head, but this would certainly merit consideration.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 20 June, 2014, 10:57:27 pm
Even the Conner guff gets good with Jasmine's "Heaven on Earth" storyline. Lot of painful stuff leading up to that though.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 20 June, 2014, 11:05:22 pm

I only really enjoyed the first season of Angel. Once Cordelia was suddenly psychic and they started popping out to mediaeval fantasy land I thought it lost whatever charm the initial premise offered.



Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 20 June, 2014, 11:18:19 pm

I only really enjoyed the first season of Angel. Once Cordelia was suddenly psychic and they started popping out to mediaeval fantasy land I thought it lost whatever charm the initial premise offered.

The trip to Pylea only lasted a few episodes Sauchie- you shoulda stuck it out.

Plus; Cordelia takes a back seat in Seasons 4+5, eventually killed off. Probably cause Carpenter was tooting more Hoover than Keith Richards at the time.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 20 June, 2014, 11:40:34 pm
The trip to Pylea only lasted a few episodes Sauchie- you shoulda stuck it out. Plus; Cordelia takes a back seat in Seasons 4+5, eventually killed off. Probably cause Carpenter was tooting more Hoover than Keith Richards at the time.

I might have, but I think Channel Four stopped buying it around that point. Pretty much every show I watched in the late nineties or early 21st century eventually disappeared behind Rupert Murdoch's pay wall.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 20 June, 2014, 11:49:02 pm
The trip to Pylea only lasted a few episodes Sauchie- you shoulda stuck it out. Plus; Cordelia takes a back seat in Seasons 4+5, eventually killed off. Probably cause Carpenter was tooting more Hoover than Keith Richards at the time.

I might have, but I think Channel Four stopped buying it around that point.

Same thing happened to me. I was struggling a bit with Fred and Pylea and all that, and then I had to chase it around and get friends with Sky to tape it and I just lost the motivation.  When I did dip back in there was mopey teen Conner and I just never connected with it again.

Which is all to the good now!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 22 June, 2014, 02:43:22 pm
As my Buffywatch reaches completely uncharted waters, I've been dreading watching the musical episode for the first time. Having no soul, I loathe musicals almost as much as I hate those stupid robots from off of Silent Running and I can't really say its fan favourite status helped ease my nerves.

Anyway, turns out I was wrong and Joss Whedon is an actual genius.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 22 June, 2014, 02:55:41 pm
Anyway, turns out I was wrong and Joss Whedon is an actual genius.

That episode transcends television itself.  My mate's first child was born the night it first aired here, and I subsequently berated him for missing it (the episode, not the birth) and knew I was right to do so.

However:

...almost as much as I hate those stupid robots from off of Silent Running...

That's an automatic fail on the Voight-Kampff.  Stay away from my tortoise.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 22 June, 2014, 03:38:35 pm
Not a Buffy fan. But I DID see that episode.

"It doesn't mean a thing if it ain't got that.... ow."

Genius!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 22 June, 2014, 03:47:35 pm
Not only are the tunes catchy, funny, and well-performed (and thus works well as a standalone piece of musical theatre), but the episode represents the culmination of at least half-a-dozen character arcs and several long running sub-plots, and kicks off a whole new phase of the series - and it does it all satisfyingly and memorably, and delivers a gobsmacker of a twist.  It really is an extraordinary achievement, possibly the single most accomplished 45 minutes of television ever made.  And it really, really shouldn't have worked at all.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 22 June, 2014, 04:09:14 pm
That's an automatic fail on the Voight-Kampff.  Stay away from my tortoise.

He's not helping, Tordel. Why isn't he helping…?

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 22 June, 2014, 11:58:12 pm

I've watched it twice now. Quite extraordinary, and TB nails it there.

It starts out making you think it's just a gimmicky joke episode then takes a whole load of important plot strands and cuts the Gordian Knot of finding time to let them all play out without skimping on the impact of any of them in a fun, inventive way which is both totally unexpected and completely in keeping with the spirit of the show in general and this episode.

Plus the songs are funny: "I can bring whole cities to ruin/
And still have time to get a soft shoe in..."

I texted a pal about my discovery and he responded: "There's moments in it when I completely forget that I'm supposed to actively loathe adult orientated rock at all times. Also, Tara's quite the chanter." I had to agree.

Where does Giles solo gig in Restless sit on the foreshadowing wallchart?
That's an automatic fail on the Voight-Kampff.  Stay away from my tortoise.
He's not helping, Tordel. Why isn't he helping…?
Arf. As a child I once had a tortoise called Arnold who ran away.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: GrinningChimera on 28 June, 2014, 06:34:56 am
Just finished the first season of Hannibal. Gripping stuff. Waiting for the next season to come to blu-ray is going to be a killer.

Highly recommended to any budding serial killers out there
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Proudhuff on 15 July, 2014, 10:53:59 am
Series three of Falling Skies out now and second House of Cards... on DVD.

Have just finished the first series of The Following, tempted to follow up the second.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 15 July, 2014, 11:50:37 am
True Blood, season 5.  There's too much overt fantasy stuff and the strongest material concerns human characters and dramas, the fairy nonsense doing nothing but padding out the running time with stuff 1990s Power Rangers would think twice about, but if you don't mind that, it's decent bit of camp fluff - for all its gore, bumming and swearing - even if some characters and plotlines strain one's capacity to sit in front of the tv and not set fire to it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mardroid on 15 July, 2014, 10:37:46 pm
From Dusk 'Til Dawn
The series, that is, not the film.

I recently started the trial run of Netflix. I went on there looking for Almost Human (it's on Amazon Prime but missing episodes 2 and 3 for some reason) and came across this instead.

Interesting. Particularly how close to the storyline of the film it is. Almost as if the film were a Reader's Digest version of the series story. I'm some ways this makes it feel rather padded, but I wonder if I'd get that impression if I'd never seen the film?

Also interesting that they basically went with the snake person idea which is Salma Hayek morphed into in the film as the main form for the vamps. (All the other vampires in the film are of the more traditional variety.)
It took 4 or 5 episodes to reach the Titty Twister club. But boy is that scene grim when they do.


Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 15 July, 2014, 10:53:16 pm
From Dusk Til Dawn was a weekly must-see in the Small Blue House. Very much looking forward to series two.

SBT
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 21 July, 2014, 05:30:40 pm
It's Buffy 5 round my manor. While there were certainly episodes of earlier series which I hadn't seen, this is getting into territory I know very little about. While it retains the same sense of fun and works hard to address the characters' changing situations, I've always thought the Buffy and Spike romance was a really stupid development and far too much time is spent building that up.
As it turned out, I'd seen far more of the fifth season then I remembered but there were some big gaps. In fairness, the way the Buffy Spike relationship plays out in the second half of the series is a bit better and becomes genuinely interesting at the start of the next series. On the one hand I still find all Spike's doe-eyed mooning hard to take and can't shake the feeling that it's playing to over-earnest writers of slash fiction (as opposed to over-earnest, po-faced internet commenters.) On the other, how on Earth could I have forgotten the existence of the Buffybot?

Overall, the quality remains high with some of my favourite crass laughs - Anya's plans for the two Xanders, Buffybot's Terminator style HUD - and probably the most affecting moments. I remember when I originally saw The Body, it was halfway through before I realised that part of what was making it so unsettling was the lack of incidental music or, in some cases, sound.

It's an interesting ending too, for the tiny little shift in Giles as much as the main event. One where we obviously know it isn't final and are intrigued to find out how it will be resolved but also for how the creators try to contextualise it. I'm not usually one to be interested in commentaries or behind the scenes gubbins but Whedon's observations about this being originally conceived as a potential capstone for the whole series and then repurposed in this way are pretty interesting.


Onto the last few episodes of Angel Season 1 here, as a side-project of the Buffy rewatch, and despite never having thought that highly of the spin-off show, it has really grown on me...I'm most impressed by the way the show has changed over 20-odd episodes, surviving the unfortunate loss of Doyle, reining back the use of Detective Kate, and establishing its own tone.  It certainly didn't hit the ground running the way Buffy did, but its tribulations have been interesting and the results more so.
Like the Megazine before it, I refused to have any truck with Angel when it was initially released then ended up getting and watching the whole lot a few years ago and really enjoying the majority of it. You're right about the way it changes over the course of the first series, ending up in a completely different place, with a completely different supporting cast to what you initially expect. The first two series are great, the Connor thing is something a dreary retread of Dawn, but it finds its feet again in the latter days.

TL;DR Buffy is great. Cosh takes it too seriously.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 04 August, 2014, 09:58:30 pm
Finally getting round to watching the last series of Breaking Bad. I really didn't think it could get any more ridiculous after the end of the fourth but Jesus Christ! It keeps me watching, but I just can't seem to balance the dramatic side with the ludicrous A Team giant magnets and train robbery stuff.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Devons Daddy on 05 August, 2014, 11:23:19 am
just began on RAY DONOVAN
damn season 1 is good,
with its slightly hidden yet blatantly obvious characters of certain hollywood actors,

a decent ride of total nonsense and reality tv style actoin, of a group of disturbed family member mixed up in the holllywood scene,
good stuff.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Devons Daddy on 05 August, 2014, 11:27:13 am
True Detective

just saw this via the wonderful world of ITUNES
damn,that was incredible entertainment.

worthy of a fist full of groats. story,acting,cinematography,editing, it had me in the first 6 minutes then the need to sleep over the weekend ebbed away.

that has got be sweeping the board at the awards this year.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Proteus4 on 06 August, 2014, 06:00:16 am
Just finished seasons one and two of House of Cards (US) and i loved it.  Season 1 was a bit ropey in places and the politics felt very dumbed down, but the acting and plot were great.  I remember the first series of the british one all those many moons ago and the - at that time - very shocking ending.  It was a clever trick to hold that over for the end of the first episode of season 2 as it completely grabbed you and pulled you into the show again.

Has anyone else been watching falling skies?  I havent started season 4 yet, and while i think it's only a fair to middling show, im quite looking forward to it.
Dave:)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 08 August, 2014, 12:48:32 am
Notes from last week.
Faced with the choice of the last series of Breaking Bad or delving straight into the sixth of Buffy, it was a no-brainer: Sunnydale for the win. This is the one series I knew almost nothing about, having only ever seen two or three episodes before (did it move to Sky or something?) and the first thing that struck me was how bleak a lot of it is. Having gone about as far as they could with the escalation of bigger bads, the decision to flip that round - making the apparent nemesises so mundane - and letting the main focus be on coping with life plays a big part in that. Having the villains be human and without so much as a grandiose scheme between them, just the most venal of motives, makes some of what happens later hit harder: Warren killing his ex is more shocking than any vampire attack.

The first third of the series, with Buffy trying to come to terms with what's happened, is great. The dynamic between her and Spike which I was complaining about before really does make sense here. I still found the whole bringing the house down scene laughable rather than comic, butyou can't have everything. The quality peaks with the previously fawned upon Once More with Feeling and its immediate aftermath. Conversely ,the episodes which follow, centring on Willow's addiction to magic, are some of the ropiest they've ever done. It's important for the ongoing storyline and it's one subject I can't remember them ever having touched on before (hmmm: Riley's inverted shooting gallery, maybe) but it's really not done very well.

Things improve again coming into the home straight, just in time for the wheels to fall off everything in our happy troupe's lives. Love saves the day but a different flavour. I'm looking forward to watching the last series so much that I'm even thinking about buying some of the comics too.

The addition of Dawn to the cast is an interesting way of revisiting some of the teen angst of the early days from a quite different perspective.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Devons Daddy on 08 August, 2014, 07:36:11 am
House of cards, YES!!
He does it justice does Kevin.....

The original was amongst the British clAssics.
The yank version is a perfect rendition of both the important scenes and a modern twist updated
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 28 August, 2014, 10:32:40 pm
So enjoying the 100 TV series on E4.

It's does got latest Battlestar Galactica vibe about it... (I know some actors from it on it!)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 28 August, 2014, 11:20:42 pm
Started on channel 4's Utopia today. Ever wanted to see a 2000AD serial in television format? This is it. Only one episode in, so i'm not gonna give a full opinion yet. But it's good. Very good.




Oh, and did Bolt get royalties for that FutureQuake cameo?! :lol:
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Fungus on 29 August, 2014, 12:36:31 am
Started on channel 4's Utopia today. Ever wanted to see a 2000AD serial in television format? This is it. Only one episode in, so i'm not gonna give a full opinion yet. But it's good. Very good.

Which series, 1 or 2? Both start with incredibly promising episodes.
Followed by some ultra-violence to shock.
And I didn't make the end of either  :(
Tried both series twice - just in case.

Mind you baling out is becoming pretty common. That WAS The Honourable Woman about anyway?  :|
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 29 August, 2014, 06:45:12 am
What WAS The Honourable Woman about anyway?

It was about four or five episodes too long.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 29 August, 2014, 07:03:38 am
Started on channel 4's Utopia today. Ever wanted to see a 2000AD serial in television format? This is it. Only one episode in, so i'm not gonna give a full opinion yet. But it's good. Very good.

Which series, 1 or 2? Both start with incredibly promising episodes.
Followed by some ultra-violence to shock.
And I didn't make the end of either  :(
Tried both series twice - just in case.

Mind you baling out is becoming pretty common. That WAS The Honourable Woman about anyway?  :|
Series 1. Uktra-violence i'm fine with so long as it isn't at the expense of a story.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Devons Daddy on 01 September, 2014, 03:35:49 am
House of cards (yank version) outstanding just watched season 2
Yes losing the original path now of course but still outstanding stuff.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 01 September, 2014, 06:07:08 am
Finished The Wire Season 2 and it is as good as people say. Absolutely loving the series. Glad they've sorted the whole 'Getting the band back together' thing boxed off as that was just about the only downside to this season. Brilliant stuff, even if the cop element is increasingly a sideshow.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 01 September, 2014, 11:21:06 am
Finished The Wire Season 2 and it is as good as people say. Absolutely loving the series.

You still have Season 3 to watch for the first time.
How I envy you.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 01 September, 2014, 12:38:56 pm
You still have Season 3 to watch for the first time.
How I envy you.

Yeah I'm quite excited about it. My guess is and this is just speculation so please don't confirm or deny anything - we're in for a clash between Omar and Stringer, depending on where he's at Barksdale might get in the mix too.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 01 September, 2014, 12:40:15 pm
Yeah I'm quite excited about it. My guess is and this is just speculation so please don't confirm or deny anything - we're in for a clash between Omar and Stringer, depending on where he's at Barksdale might get in the mix too.

OOOh so you in for a big ride for Season 3 ;)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 02 September, 2014, 11:14:13 pm
Finally getting round to watching the last series of Breaking Bad. I really didn't think it could get any more ridiculous after the end of the fourth but Jesus Christ! It keeps me watching, but I just can't seem to balance the dramatic side with the ludicrous A Team stuff.
Made it to the end at last. I've probably been overly critical of some aspects of this programme so I better say that the second half of the last series is by far the best it's been and almost reaches the heights some of the more overheated fans make for it. The work put in to doing something with the likes of Hank and Skylar really paid off towards the end.

The finale itself kind of encapsulated the show for me: annoying callback to the start of the series, some genuinely dramatic bits and one final credulity-stretching Macguyvering.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 04 September, 2014, 12:39:50 pm
EXTANT on Lovefilm.

Primarily because Halle Berry is one of my laminates but it's a great opening episode even if it seems like "SOLARIS meets AI the TV series".
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Devons Daddy on 04 September, 2014, 02:44:35 pm
Due to the overwhelming vote of WOW and positive comments i just downloaded BUFFY
the singing episode.

about to sit and watch it now,
I like/d buffy and simply did not catch this show at the time and have yet to catch up on this particlar season.
so ITUNES now has my groats.

hoping to join you all in its celebration in an hour
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 September, 2014, 02:58:40 pm
Due to the overwhelming vote of WOW and positive comments i just downloaded BUFFY
the singing episode.

I don't think you're seeing it in its ideal context — one of the reasons it's such a great episode (apart from coming up with a logical, story-consistent rationale for the whole musical shtick and then doing it really well) is that's a really important episode within the context of all the ongoing story/character arcs of that season. Without that, I suspect it's really just going to be a bunch of songs.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Proudhuff on 04 September, 2014, 04:41:24 pm
Finished The Wire Season 2 and it is as good as people say. Absolutely loving the series.

You still have Season 3 to watch for the first time.
How I envy you.

Indeed
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 04 September, 2014, 07:25:51 pm
The Wire lasted 15 minutes in our house. I don't have time to waste on "getting through the first season" of a programme. Sorry.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 04 September, 2014, 08:33:36 pm
The Wire lasted 15 minutes in our house. I don't have time to waste on "getting through the first season" of a programme. Sorry.

Maybe give Farscape & Buffy a miss so!  ;)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 04 September, 2014, 08:36:49 pm
I did.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Rude as HECK on 04 September, 2014, 09:08:11 pm
Been binging on Seinfeld recently. Hell of a sitcom.  A few too many filler episodes, but sometimes the plots are so vapid you barely notice them, so you sort of just pass over 'em.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: von Boom on 04 September, 2014, 10:18:25 pm
Just about to finish rewatching Only Fools and Horses. So much funny.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 05 September, 2014, 01:51:35 am
The Wire lasted 15 minutes in our house. I don't have time to waste on "getting through the first season" of a programme. Sorry.
Fair enough, but I usually give it a whole episode.

This Judge Dredd is a lot of pish. He didn't even investigate that crime which was shown in graphic detail on the first page.

Yes he did. In fact that formed the plot of the whole story.

Who has time to turn pages?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 05 September, 2014, 06:43:05 am
The Wire lasted 15 minutes in our house

The episodes are usually longer than that - did you have it on fast forward by mistake? That'll be why you didn't enjoy it.


Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Devons Daddy on 05 September, 2014, 11:52:05 am
BUFFY GREAT!!

shall get the  full season now, as i recognise it has far more depth.
was good bright colourful subplots of a deeper nature brought to closure or torn open.

was good use of my time to enjoy.


Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 12 September, 2014, 05:20:06 pm
After finishing off the John Lithgow series of Dexter, I don't think I'll be looking back in again.

Now it's on to Utopia proper, which 3 episodes in is rather special. Nice to see Faisal from Four Lions again. It's nice to hear all those lovely accents on screen - shame Smiley didn't stick around.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 30 September, 2014, 02:45:48 pm
On any other show but Star Trek Voyager, the producer sleeping with an actress whose character came to dominate the show she only joined in its fourth season would have been seen as a conflict of interest, or at the very least a HR lecture waiting to happen, but luckily for all concerned, any potential Voyager had to move Trek forwards had already been quashed and it had outed itself as an old-fashioned and conservative-to-a-fault show, so no-one really gave two fucks about some barely-watched tv show about robots and lasers pushing yet another watered-down version of Spock to prominence in an attempt to appeal to nerds, lurching her around onscreen in an utterly ridiculous glittering catsuit that would have looked stupid in an episode of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century as she declared people's emotions illogical/inefficient - though it really is hilarious how blatantly Seven of Nine comes to overshadow everything to the point that the rest of the cast look like troopers for putting up with being reduced to guest-stars in their own show for the rest of its run.  Even funnier is trying to imagine someone with a straight face telling a meeting of tv network executives that what their show needed to take from the Borg was a big-breasted Mr Data impersonator, and not a horde of unstoppable robot space zombies who'd just starred in the most successful Star Trek movie of all time.
There are a couple of good episodes in the season 3-4 run I've caught in the last few weeks, particularly that one where we find out that Janeway is stalked by the actual honest-to-goodness Grim Reaper, but there are far more stinkers, especially that space-rape episode with - obviously - Seven of Nine discovering that even in the 24th century, suppressed memories are a confidence trick invented by the psychiatric industry, and that women aren't bothered by finding out they've been molested until Social Justice Warriors convince them to kick up a fuss.  Thanks for giving the Trek mythology that, Voyager.

Also Star Trek Continues, a Kickstarter-funded fan production based on the original series featuring a damn-near perfect Kirk from prolific anime voice-over artist Vic Mignogna, although bizarrely his voice is the weakest link in the chain.  Apart from that, his mannerisms and delivery are classic Shatner and the rest of the cast vary between good and Not So Good, with the odd bit of stunt casting of Trek fans like Erin Grey, that bloke who played Apollo on the Battlestar Galactica remake, the son of the bloke who played Scotty in the original Trek series (here playing Scotty, naturally), and computer voices provided by Mr Worf and Counselor Troi from Star Trek: the Next Generation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G-ziTBAkbQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mOpmIFTxkE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJf2ovQtI6w
The worst of the three episodes produced so far is Lolani, but even in its failure it's magnificent, because it's still a perfect reproduction of the failure of Trek at its most preachy and thus has nostalgia value.  It's a talky episode about the responsibility not to interfere in the ways of other cultures and the evils of slavery that not only dispels the ludicrous after-the-fact justification of later shows like Enterprise for the existence of slaves in Trek's supposed utopian future by suggesting that slave women willingly give themselves into bonded servitude, but it has Lou Ferrigno playing an Orion slave-master - yes, that's right, Lou Fucking Ferrigno in green body paint - and if that's not enough for you, then dammit, you're made of stone.
The best episode is far and away Fairest Of Them All, a direct sequel to the original Mirror Universe story that sees the (Evil) Spock in a power struggle with (Evil) Kirk for control of the (Ambivalent) Enterprise, complete with ham-fisted Kirk/Spock fight scenes filmed in Dutch Angles, and is pretty much perfect except for maybe one or two effects shots being too good, especially that wide-angle shot of the Enterprise shuttle bay near the end.
Yes, it is exactly the kind of thing they invented the term "fan wank" for, but when it's better than the fan wank being produced by the people who actually make Star Trek tv shows and movies, why worry?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 30 September, 2014, 03:19:15 pm
Another eloquent review, oh ursine one.

I had no idea that Jeri Ryan was bonking the producer, but it does explain an awful lot. I'll have to check out that other one - sounds like my kinda fanwank.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 30 September, 2014, 05:34:23 pm
Star Trek Continues, a Kickstarter-funded fan production based on the original series ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G-ziTBAkbQ

That really is uncanny, and getting Seth McFarlane to play Scotty is quite a coup.


Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 30 September, 2014, 06:08:34 pm
Star Trek Continues is amazing. So easy to slip into the fantasy that you're watching a Season 4 that you somehow missed.  As the Bear says, even its shortcomings just enhance the illusion. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Grugz on 30 September, 2014, 06:22:06 pm
walking dead...again and series 4 gets on demand tomorrow so while the kids at school I can zombie away to my hearts content...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 30 September, 2014, 10:41:27 pm
COMMUNITY

Was this ever shown on normal telly? It's brilliant stuff playing too and subverting tropes in equal measure with fantastically bonkers, utterly flawed but still just about likeable characters, some genius gags and enough smart one liners to last you a lifetime.

Just finished season 3. Have crush on Dean Pelton
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 01 October, 2014, 01:00:12 am
COMMUNITY

Was this ever shown on normal telly?
Yeah. It's one of those programmes like Curb Your Enthusiasm that Guardian reviewers and the very occasional real person who actually watched it go bonkers about.

Never seen an episode myself. Doubt I ever will.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 01 October, 2014, 04:16:40 pm
I looked up Star Trek continues on the strength of Bear's review and he is pretty much spot on. Compared to every other fan made Star Trek I also glanced at STC was actually watchable.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 01 October, 2014, 04:19:32 pm
And the people making it have actually gone to a lot of trouble to make it look and sound and be acted and edited like Star Trek original series episodes. Again all of the other fan things seem to be doing something that just happens to use Star Trek uniforms and spaceships.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 01 October, 2014, 05:02:08 pm
And the people making it have actually gone to a lot of trouble to make it look and sound and be acted and edited like Star Trek original series episodes.

Right down to the way certain scenes end in a way you can tell where the add break would have been in the original transmission. That's not just because of the technical aspects of the way the scene is edited and scored, but also the way the narrative has been constructed.


Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 01 October, 2014, 06:39:11 pm
Accidentally posted twice.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Satanist on 01 October, 2014, 07:04:10 pm
Accidentally posted twice.

Was this ever shown on normal telly?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 03 October, 2014, 11:13:44 pm
Season 4 of Community and it seems to have become very normal. A poor halloween episode, a poor let's laugh at nerds at a convention episode and a completely devoid of luaghs "comedy Germans" episode.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 03 October, 2014, 11:26:56 pm
Yep, season 4 of Community is the pits. Not sure if you're aware Tips, but this was the season made without the involvement of Dan Harmon, and boy it shows. Though a certain section of fans seem to think it was alright (some even try to claim it's not much worse than season 3) I tend to recommend that people just skip over it entirely - it's pretty embarrassing for all concerned and is for me just not the same show as what came before.

Season 5, while I wouldn't call it an unqualified triumph, is a vast improvement.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 04 October, 2014, 11:32:56 am
I have an abiding love for the original Star Trek, and have really enjoyed James Hawley's Star Trek: New Voyages/ Phase II... but Star Trek Continues, based on the ten minutes Ive just watched, is on a whole other level. If I can find something for the kids to do this afternoon that doesn't involve me, I will be having a bit of a marathon. Cheers for the heads up. Wow.

SBT
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Daveycandlish on 04 October, 2014, 11:41:39 am
Star Trek Continues is by far and away the best new Trek you are going to find on YouTube.

I've just bought Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased) in the NetworkDVD sale so will be having a marathon of that this weekend.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 04 October, 2014, 11:56:23 am
I've just bought Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased) in the NetworkDVD sale so will be having a marathon of that this weekend.

Classic original or misguided Vic'n'Bob remake?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Daveycandlish on 04 October, 2014, 03:34:14 pm
I enjoyed the remake (mainly because of Foxy Emilia as Jeannie) but this weekend it's Mike Pratt and Ken Cope's wig all the way
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 20 October, 2014, 04:32:26 pm
Rather enjoyed misguided Vic N Bob remake.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 20 October, 2014, 05:02:50 pm
Just finished 'The Wire' season 3 well now that was fun. I'm not sure it was quite as good as season 2, but then Omar wasn't quite as fantastic as he was in that. It certainly had some quite phenomenal episodes that for me would rank as highly as any in the other two great TV shows (Breaking Bad and The Sopranos) episodes 9 and 12 in particular. The rest had some really wonderful moments but overall for the longest time it felt like it was peddling too many things... which I guess is why episode 12 was such a relevant, it did manage to bring everything to an end very nicely indeed, quite brilliant.

The big letdown for me was the... well events of episode 11, if you've seen it you know. While I loved the balcony conversation and all weight that carried I felt the big ending had been coming for a while and therefore lost a lot of impact. Shame.

Still this is still up there with the afore mentioned big 2 quite breath-taking telly.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 21 October, 2014, 03:05:35 am
I'm about halfway through the original Captain Harlock.

Oh my, it's deliciously bonkers. Continuity gaffes all over the place, big, big things in the show (like Captain Harlock being a pirate) just being the way they are 'just coz'... and some incredibly wonky, totally fantastic and implausible logic... but by god is it fun!

Much can be forgiven on grounds of the show's age. Originally airing in Japan in 1978, it still has a lot of the identifying hallmarks of anime as we know it in the west. It doesn't shy away from showing us death and conflict on different levels. And, for all the dated animation techniques, it's still a visually inventive show.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 21 October, 2014, 01:29:27 pm
Still thinking about getting the Monty Python Flying Circus....perhaps one day!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Skullmo on 21 October, 2014, 01:36:49 pm
Just finished 'The Wire' season 3 well now that was fun. I'm not sure it was quite as good as season 2, but then Omar wasn't quite as fantastic as he was in that. It certainly had some quite phenomenal episodes that for me would rank as highly as any in the other two great TV shows (Breaking Bad and The Sopranos) episodes 9 and 12 in particular. The rest had some really wonderful moments but overall for the longest time it felt like it was peddling too many things... which I guess is why episode 12 was such a relevant, it did manage to bring everything to an end very nicely indeed, quite brilliant.

The big letdown for me was the... well events of episode 11, if you've seen it you know. While I loved the balcony conversation and all weight that carried I felt the big ending had been coming for a while and therefore lost a lot of impact. Shame.

Still this is still up there with the afore mentioned big 2 quite breath-taking telly.

I loved Season 3, I even enjoyed that big ending.

Season 4 is my favourite though!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 03 November, 2014, 01:29:46 pm
I have recently been watching The X-Files and the original Battlestar Galactica.

The X-Files is pretty solid television.  Perhaps laughable in places, not to the extent that it distracts from a pretty well crafted formula.  Even though the show is enjoyable I am finding it difficult to binge on.  Maybe because I watched far too many episodes back to back when I had the flu.  I will be dipping back into this show in the interim between now and the next time I see my partner - we will be watching the new BSG hopefully in its entirety if it goes down well.

With the thought of that in mind I also started giving the original BSG a go.  Actually better than I was expecting and certainly a more enjoyable experience than that I had with Star Trek TOS(s).  It is still a little corny with a degree of insufferable sci-fi optimism that was common of the era.  It certainly has made me appreciate the rebooted version a lot more.  I may not get to the end of the series, but it's compelling enough to watch an episode a day at the moment.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 03 November, 2014, 01:40:44 pm
I enjoy the X-Files most as a non-linear experience. In contrast to most shows, I prefer monster-of-the-week to ongoing mythology.

Wish it was on Netflix UK.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 03 November, 2014, 01:50:07 pm
I remember loving the ongoing mythology when it originally aired.  It was the most enigmatic thing I had ever seen on television at the time.  This is actually my first viewing of the show as a fully-fledged card-carrying adult and I was surprised how monster-of-the-week it is.  I am appreciating it in different ways than I did the first time around.

Watching this show and the first episode of the Constantine show has got me recently thinking more about Buffy the Vampire Slayer - which is my all time favourite monster-of-the-week show.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 03 November, 2014, 02:10:33 pm
Sherlock, just finished Season 1.  Oh I don't know about this at all.  Obviously the two leads are impressive, but are the characters they portray actually any good?  After years of trying to persuade my Holmes-purist wife that we should watch this, I'm starting to feel a bit of a chump.  The season finale was fun simply because of the rapid succession of half-familiar puzzles, but at the same time, it was deeply silly. I suppose what annoys me, apart from inconsistent characterisation of Holmes himself (which could be intentional, I suppose, 'mercurial' covers many ills) and the slightly-unbelievable-as-an-army-doctor Watson, are the gaping plot holes... a Holmes mystery should be watertight, full of the outlandish and grossly improbable, but by the man's famous dictum never impossible - which these frequently are. 

I'll persevere for a bit longer.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 03 November, 2014, 02:22:48 pm
I remember loving the ongoing mythology when it originally aired.  It was the most enigmatic thing I had ever seen on television at the time.

Yeah I loved it too, though I was far too young to get it until it was well underway and the movie came out. I think this was part of the flaw of the mythology for me; by the time I could engage with it, I already had some suspicions that the conspiracies, secrets and more would ultimately fail to satisfy.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 03 November, 2014, 02:43:09 pm
Yeah I loved it too, though I was far too young to get it until it was well underway and the movie came out. I think this was part of the flaw of the mythology for me; by the time I could engage with it, I already had some suspicions that the conspiracies, secrets and more would ultimately fail to satisfy.

Yeah, I have been wondering about that.  The conspiracy and motives have already been spoilt for me (I haven't seen the movie in its entirety and my viewing was sporadic at best around the time it came out) it is a disappointment.  Thinking back, though, I think I enjoyed the mystery more.  These shadowy and mysterious people doing shady things for unclear purposes and ends was really compelling for me.  There was paranoia, uncertainty, subterfuge and distrust that lingered uncomfortably in the background - it was great.  Getting all the answers, in this case, could do nothing but disappoint as the compelling aspect is the frustration of not knowing the answers but, like Fox Molder, continuously pursuing it every week - mostly in the form of monster-of-the-week.  Given that I haven't seen all of the X-Files episodes and those I did watch I saw a long time ago I can't really say how well the show actually achieved this.  Nevertheless, from a nostalgic perspective this is what the show represented for me.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 03 November, 2014, 04:14:55 pm
...I was far too young to get it until it was well underway and the movie came out.

Stop, you're killing me.

Coming at it from the perspective of being old enough at the time to know better, I too found the 'mythos' episodes the most compelling, and often resented what I thought of as filler.  Now, on the rare occasions that I have cause to think about X-Files, it's the better monster-of-the-weeks that really stand out as retrospective favourites.  Although I still have residual affection for the CSM and Krycek. 

Pictsy is absolutely right - knowing the solution to the big mysteries could never have been as satisfying as the search for truth.  But it still would have been nice if the answers were even vaguely interesting.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 03 November, 2014, 08:21:57 pm
With the thought of that in mind I also started giving the original BSG a go.  Actually better than I was expecting and certainly a more enjoyable experience than that I had with Star Trek TOS(s).  It is still a little corny with a degree of insufferable sci-fi optimism that was common of the era.  It certainly has made me appreciate the rebooted version a lot more.

For me, the opposite was true - watching the new BSG made me appreciate the original a lot more, if only for being more ambitious, more forward-thinking, and less socially conservative than the remake (the original's Greek influence extended to a gay reading of the Starbuck/Apollo relationship, while the remake manages only to make a minor and unimportant character bisexual, but even then only manages to do so in a spin-off web series).

A good bridge between the two would be the underrated Space: Above and Beyond, which alongside Firefly was heavily stripmined for the BSG remake.  It's a straight-faced space war series about a squadron of fighter pilots based on a carrier craft, made by X-Files writers Glen Morgan and James Wong (Fox Mulder even does a cameo).  It had the misfortune to run afoul of the (then) small world of sci-fi critics and fandom by getting into a feud with journalists who'd run a hatchet job on an early pirate print of the pilot, and as a result the show couldn't get a break even when it produced objectively classic episodes like Who Monitors the Birds, Sugar Dirt, or The Angriest Angel (the latter was remade beat-for-beat in the BSG episode Scar).  While not cheap-looking, it does show its age, but it's worth a gander.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Batman's Superior Cousin on 03 November, 2014, 09:02:59 pm
Obsessively Watch

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Doctor Who
Game of Thrones
House of Cards

Occasionally Watch

Bojack Horseman
Criminal Minds
Falling Skies - Finishing next year
Have I Got News For You
Peaky Blinders
Star Wars Rebels
True Detective
Yonderland

Planning to Watch

Agent Carter
Daredevil
Galavant
Lilyhammer

Abandoned

American Horror Story
Continuum
Defiance
Homeland
Law & Order: Special Victims Unit
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
The Blacklist
The Mentalist

Have a Healthy Interest In

Person of Interest
The legend of Korra

Ended

Boardwalk Empire
Utopia
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 03 November, 2014, 09:05:33 pm
For me, the opposite was true - watching the new BSG made me appreciate the original a lot more, if only for being more ambitious, more forward-thinking, and less socially conservative than the remake (the original's Greek influence extended to a gay reading of the Starbuck/Apollo relationship, while the remake manages only to make a minor and unimportant character bisexual, but even then only manages to do so in a spin-off web series).

We're probably going to disagree massively on this point.  I haven't completed the series but I haven't become aware of any reading of a gay relationship between Starbuck and Apollo and saying 'reading' suggests that it's never explicitly stated.  The remake makes other reference to non-hetero sexualities not only Gaeta (who I would argue is not a minor character and certainly not unimportant having many significant story lines including the attempted coup) but also, for example, Admiral Helena Cain.  The show that is more open about sexuality would be the less socially conservative and that would be the remake.

I think the remake is certainly more ambitious, taking a beloved product and making such a drastic re-imagining but also adding weight with social, political, metaphysical and moral issues.  The original is barely equalling that ambition.  Although I was surprised to see Apollo's wife get killed in the original series I am not seeing anything as daring as a secret court dispensing people out of an airlock, yet.  Who knows, maybe things take a turn for the dark mid-season.

How watching the original is making me appreciate the remake more is seeing just which elements they took from the original show and what they did with them.  It's nice to see those elements in the original.  For instance I have just started watching the episode with the prisoners.  It's interesting to watch how that was originally dealt with it.  I think it's entirely appropriate how the remake built upon that foundation and really ran with the concept of convicts in the colonial fleet.

My bias towards the remake of BSG is always going to be fuelled by passion as I regard it as one of the finest Science Fiction shows I have ever seen.  There is only one show I would certainly say is better (Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex) and maybe a handful I would consider better, but it really was an amazing breath of fresh air watching it.

I don't know whether I saw any Space: Above and Beyond.  I would certainly seek that one out and give it a go.  I always like Sci-Fi recommendations ;)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 03 November, 2014, 09:29:36 pm

I just took a long toke on season 6 of Mad Men, where brylcreem and seersucker give way to love beads and cheesecloth. Highlights were the insane episode where they all lock themselves in the office over a weekend, get wrecked on uppers, and the show turns into The Prisoner; the droll device of having a soap within the show *, resulting in the gift of three Megans on screen at the same time **; and the psychological Hiroshima of Don's pitch to Hershey's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxMef0hYIWw).

I had to watch that last scene through my fingers.



* a show which takes flack for being too soapy

** evil blonde Megan with Mia Farrow's haircut rocks
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 03 November, 2014, 10:48:51 pm
We're probably going to disagree massively on this point.

Indeed we are, but when Starbuck tells Apollo he's jealous of Apollo's new wife, I'm afraid there's really no turning the Gay Subtext Train around and going back to the closet station.
Also don't watch Galactica 1980.  I enjoy it but I'm not blind or deaf - it's complete horseshit.  The final episode is great, though, and belongs in season 1 as the finale.

You cite Stand Alone Complex so I salute you, but shall see your anime reference and raise you one Super Dimensional Fortress Macross (redubbed in the west as Robotech), in which the titular giant starship searches for Earth while infiltrated by enemies made to look human, one of whom has a baby with a flight chief on the starship.  There's a love triangle between the daring space pilot main character, a sensible lady on the bridge whose job is supposedly important even though all she does is answer the phone and state the obvious (to the gruff and experienced Admiral who was close to retirement before the events of the series occurred), and a flighty, immature younger woman - the triangle is seemingly resolved after the show jumps ahead 18 months halfway through and everyone on the starship has relocated to a desolate planet they call Earth.  The pilot character ends up with the sensible lady from the bridge, all the fighters on the starship look like planes, and the ace fighter pilot character shockingly dies halfway through the series.

It reminds me of something, but I can't recall what that might be. :-\
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 03 November, 2014, 11:07:39 pm
Indeed we are, but when Starbuck tells Apollo he's jealous of Apollo's new wife, I'm afraid there's really no turning the Gay Subtext Train around and going back to the closet station.
Also don't watch Galactica 1980.  I enjoy it but I'm not blind or deaf - it's complete horseshit.  The final episode is great, though, and belongs in season 1 as the finale.

It's not explicit enough for me.  When Starbuck says he is jealous I - in all honesty - took it to mean jealous of the love and commitment, not jealousy to Apollo's wife.  With Starbucks rampant womanising as well I am finding a gay subtext to be dubious and this to be a clear case of the difference between implication and inference.  Believe me, I'd love it if there was any 70's sci-fi show that challenges sexual 'norms'. 

Oh and I'm steering well clear of Galactica 1980.  I was exposed to it as a child and it left me with the impression that all of BSG was utter shite to be avoided like the plague.  It even took a bit of convincing to get me to watch the remake.

You cite Stand Alone Complex so I salute you, but shall see your anime reference and raise you one Super Dimensional Fortress Macross (redubbed in the west as Robotech), in which the titular giant starship searches for Earth while infiltrated by enemies made to look human, one of whom has a baby with a flight chief on the starship.  There's a love triangle between the daring space pilot main character, a sensible lady on the bridge whose job is supposedly important even though all she does is answer the phone and state the obvious (to the gruff and experienced Admiral who was close to retirement before the events of the series occurred), and a flighty, immature younger woman - the triangle is seemingly resolved after the show jumps ahead 18 months halfway through and everyone on the starship has relocated to a desolate planet they call Earth.  The pilot character ends up with the sensible lady from the bridge, all the fighters on the starship look like planes, and the ace fighter pilot character shockingly dies halfway through the series.

It reminds me of something, but I can't recall what that might be. :-\

I see what you did there ;)

Not seen that anime.  There's a massive list of anime shows that are on my 'need to watch list'.  I get hassled most for not having seen Cowboy Beebop.  Neon Genesis Evangelion is the one that I'm most curious about.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 04 November, 2014, 03:28:12 am
For the love of God, Pictsy, see if you can watch one or to episodes fo Evangelion before you commit to watching the whole thing. I think it's appallingly over-rated, and more than bit crap. But it seems to endear itself to a lot of folks, so clearly I'm just on one side of the fence there.

Cowboy Bebop, on the other hand, is really essential viewing. You may find, as I did, that you watch it through and think 'huh, what's all the fuss about?'

But it leaves a deep groove. And when you get to the final episode, there will be tears. Oh, lawdy, will there ever be tears.

Incidentally, Stand Alone Complex is THE anime everyone should see before they die. Or, at least, before Dreamworks screw it up with a horribly butchered and mis-cast summer movie version of it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 04 November, 2014, 09:16:44 am
I enjoy NGE. It's not great but it certainly has it's charm. Cowboy Bebop is essential viewing though. Just a superb piece of television.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 04 November, 2014, 09:19:31 am
The magic mushrooms episode slays me every time!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 04 November, 2014, 10:12:41 am
To be fair any scene with Ed and Ein in is pure magic. Like the Alien inspired episode with the monsterous mould growing in the refrigerator (which made a guest appearence in Space Dandy, BTW).
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 04 November, 2014, 10:59:13 am

...
For me, the opposite was true - watching the new BSG made me appreciate the original a lot more, if only for being more ambitious, more forward-thinking, and less socially conservative than the remake....

...A good bridge between the two would be the underrated Space: Above and Beyond...

I'm with Pictsy RE: the new BSG. In many ways its like the world of the Big Meg to me; female judges are not even a thing, for example. Gaeta is not a minor character in my book either, rather he was one of my favourite parts of the main cast throughout the whole series and made his betrayal in the coup e ven more tragic. Whatever conservatism is expressed in BSG (and there's a lot) I felt as a reaction against the sheer horror and paranoia of their situation, and the fundamentalist viewpoints that arise around it. And in BSG remake, it's not just a wink and a nudge subtext a la the original.


Regarding Space: Above and Beyond - I loved that show so much. As a kid it looked incredible. The worldbuilding was immense too... the abused and exploited clone soldiers replacing the synthetics who had rebelled and sided with the unknown and terrifying alien force... the synthetics who spoke in machine code... And a very ambiguous 'good guys' who were responsible for the prejudices and seeds of their own destruction, at least in so much as the bigwigs in the corporations and the military had created both the AIs and covered up a blundering first contact.

Should remake this whilst they're trawling the back catalogue...

There's a show that needs a remake. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 04 November, 2014, 11:01:29 am
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

The original cartoon series from early nineties!

The only version of that cartoon worth watching!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 04 November, 2014, 11:19:15 am
With the thought of that in mind I also started giving the original BSG a go.  Actually better than I was expecting and certainly a more enjoyable experience than that I had with Star Trek TOS(s).  It is still a little corny with a degree of insufferable sci-fi optimism that was common of the era.  It certainly has made me appreciate the rebooted version a lot more.

For me, the opposite was true - watching the new BSG made me appreciate the original a lot more, if only for being more ambitious, more forward-thinking, and less socially conservative than the remake (the original's Greek influence extended to a gay reading of the Starbuck/Apollo relationship, while the remake manages only to make a minor and unimportant character bisexual, but even then only manages to do so in a spin-off web series).


Who agrees that original Starbuck is much prettier (Maybe a TS, considering he was the Face of the A-team!) and would have made a better female than his current replacement in the latest series.


A good bridge between the two would be the underrated Space: Above and Beyond, which alongside Firefly was heavily stripmined for the BSG remake.  It's a straight-faced space war series about a squadron of fighter pilots based on a carrier craft, made by X-Files writers Glen Morgan and James Wong (Fox Mulder even does a cameo).  It had the misfortune to run afoul of the (then) small world of sci-fi critics and fandom by getting into a feud with journalists who'd run a hatchet job on an early pirate print of the pilot, and as a result the show couldn't get a break even when it produced objectively classic episodes like Who Monitors the Birds, Sugar Dirt, or The Angriest Angel (the latter was remade beat-for-beat in the BSG episode Scar).  While not cheap-looking, it does show its age, but it's worth a gander.

Space Above And Beyond...I enjoyed this series a lot, but wasn't impressed with the climatic last episode.

This  one is favourite (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0FpPUZO144). You-tube used to have the full episode, but that was all I could find.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 04 November, 2014, 01:06:21 pm
I tried watching the late eighties/early nineties cartoon of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.  I can't say it has aged well and it certainly does look like a glorified toy ad - which it was.  I had the same problem with the nineties X-Men cartoon and Spiderman.

Oddly, out a sense of playful nostalgia, I rewatched the first two series of Thomas the Tank Engine a couple of months ago (loved it as a tot) and it holds up really well.

One day I'll give Batman: The Animated Series a go.  Despite not thinking a great deal of it as a kid (but obviously always loving when Harley Quinn appeared) I am curious how well it does twenty years or so on.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Satanist on 04 November, 2014, 01:45:25 pm
Batman The Animated Series is great. Just watched loads with the kids and it hold up really well. My favourite episode so far is about an ordinary bloke who cuts up the Joker on his way home. Funny and scary.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 04 November, 2014, 01:49:02 pm
It's not explicit enough for me.

THEIR LOVE IS REAL YOU HEARTLESS DEVIL.

There's a massive list of anime shows that are on my 'need to watch list'.  I get hassled most for not having seen Cowboy Beebop.  Neon Genesis Evangelion is the one that I'm most curious about.

"you haven't seen Cowboy Bebop?  I don't believe you!" etc.
Bebop is quite good, actually.  It takes an episode or three to warm up, but then it's really good, emulating a kind of stylised 1970s action movie vibe, but it remains very, very Japanese.
Neon Genesis Evangelion is a series that was at best okay, but took itself too seriously and isn't really the gold standard of its genre that it's held up as being.  They did their best with what they had, but the storytelling is often frustrating, hinting at things or skirting around themes without ever really exploring them or the historical and mythological parallels it attempts to draw, so it doesn't really surprise me that it's cropped up in a discussion about the BSG remake.  The shadow it casts across anime that followed it is disproportionate to the show's quality, which is probably why they keep "remaking" it every couple of years by adding new scenes to the original episodes and then telling you that this time it's definitely the way they would have done it back in the day if they had the budget and the time, so if you haven't seen it already, I don't envy your having to make sense of it now: do you start with the original series, or the reinvented movies, or the other reinvented movies?  You might end up missing something whatever way you do it, but then you might also end up watching a version of the show that's full of non-canonical scenes and plot arcs.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 04 November, 2014, 02:04:26 pm
This year I was introduced to a few anime series.  Hellsing, Hellsing Ultimate and Elfen Lied.  I actually enjoyed them all.  My most proud moment was managing to track down the Patlabor tv show (and also the OVAs).  I loved the first two films and I was so curious about these characters.  The show was not what I was expecting, but I loved it anyway. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 04 November, 2014, 02:45:44 pm
Batman The Animated Series is great. Just watched loads with the kids and it hold up really well. My favourite episode so far is about an ordinary bloke who cuts up the Joker on his way home. Funny and scary.

My favourite Joker story ever.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 04 November, 2014, 10:16:33 pm
Batman The Animated Series is great. Just watched loads with the kids and it hold up really well. My favourite episode so far is about an ordinary bloke who cuts up the Joker on his way home. Funny and scary.

Yeah - it's a genuinely timeless classic. Better than any of the live action versions.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 05 November, 2014, 01:22:33 am
Lillyhammer on Netflix! Very funny - New York mobster turns stoolie on goes into hiding in Norway. Very funny!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 05 November, 2014, 08:53:21 am
Lillyhammer on Netflix! Very funny - New York mobster turns stoolie on goes into hiding in Norway. Very funny!

Nobody can say "What the fuck?" quite like Little Steven.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: auxlen on 08 November, 2014, 05:22:47 pm
Lillyhammer is decent. The locals are funnier than the star. I love the way its subtitled too.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 09 November, 2014, 12:31:10 am
Sherlock Season 2.  Not sure I can last the remaining 3 episodes, TBH, but the missus is keen.  The Irene Adler episode was a simply appalling mess and not a little worrying in its attitudes; the Final Problem episode appeared to have an overwrought Doctor Who finale tacked on for an ending, right down to the music; the Baskervilles one was very enjoyable silliness, but the solution was painfully obvious almost from the start.  I like the programme when it's being funny, sometimes when it's explicitly playing with Holmes-fans' expectations, and not at all when it's being serious.  It's a bit of a shambles of a thing really, but it does have an odd charm. 

The Fall, on the other hand, is really rather good.  Not wanting to trespass on Thryllseekyr's turf, but not only is Gillian Anderson excellent, she's also spellbindingly lovely in this.  This one I'll see through.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Frank on 09 November, 2014, 09:10:05 am
The Fall, on the other hand, is really rather good.  Not wanting to trespass on Thryllseekyr's turf, but not only is Gillian Anderson excellent, she's also spellbindingly lovely in this.

Agree completely *, and that's part of the clever thing the show is doing. You're certainly not the only one to think that, and it's going to lead you to some uncomfortable places before the show is done. I've just started The Missing (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04n9p9c/the-missing-1-eden), which looks like it will fill the gap until the second series of The Fall nicely, even if it is a bit more formulaic.



* including the bit about Sherlock
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 09 November, 2014, 07:51:18 pm
Finally chewed thrugh the last few episodes of Dollhouse last night.

I was primed and ready to hate this show with a vengeance. I mean, my hate is certainly legitimised by the sheer number of episodes in season one which are PROPERLY RUBBISH. Given that I have a deep, abiding dislike of Eliza Dushku as an actress as well, its safe to say that I was sold this show on the strength of its premise.

So, imagine my suprise when pretty much everything in season two coalesced into a genuinely smart, intelligently played bit of sci-fi. The characters are what kept me interested enough to suffer through the duff stuff, and I was pleased to see the show came to a definite ending in spite of cancellation. And not just a 'quick, we're cancelled, wrap everything up and see if we can spin a few comics or nevels out of the loose ends' type of ending - a really satisfying, comprehensive one. The sort of ending that makes me think I need to watch the show again sometime.

I will admit, I felt genuinely terrible for poor ol' Topher in the end. He didn't get the resolution I wanted for him...  :'(
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 09 November, 2014, 10:35:15 pm
Considering it's just Joe 90 with hookers, Dollhouse didn't really have to do much to be better than its premise would lead you to expect, though it still took 2 seasons to get there.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Fungus on 10 November, 2014, 06:56:25 am
It's a common complaint - and I'm nothing if not common - but the *nothing* ending of The Fall left a bad taste in the mouth. I can't even remember how it ended in series 1, just that it built nicely, then... just stopped. You can argue that expectations are being cleverly subverted, but it felt very unsatisfying.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 10 November, 2014, 08:15:32 am
Dollhouse was notoriously interfered with by the suits throughout season one. Apparently they just wanted the wacky-one-off resets to continue rather than any kind of plot.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 10 November, 2014, 01:37:57 pm
Yay for the TV execs.

I would have thought that it should be clear to anyone with half a bran cell who actually sat down to watch the early episodes what a TERRIBLE idea for a TV show that would be. That episode with the baacking singers? Risible.

I think what's tragic about the way the show was handled was that, probably about a third of the way into season 2, important story stuff kicks in, everything moves up a few gears, and you can't help but sit back and think 'They should have got to this so much quicker!'

Its amazing what the developments past the halfway mark do to punt everything into touch. The characters become more interesting, the show's premise is captialised upon in rich fashion... it really starts to lean on its own internally developed mythos.

And then it ends. Just like that. 

Way to go, Fox.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Proudhuff on 10 November, 2014, 02:22:59 pm
House of Cards II, the Memsabib haranged long and hard for this and its worth it, OD'ing on four episodes a night: Kevin and Robin are a the deadly duo, with Kevin's dark asides and quick glances to camera more telling that any amount of grandstanding or speachifying. Will be sad to see this end, but I can guess where he's aiming.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 10 November, 2014, 04:37:44 pm
Well. I did it. I started watching Game of Thrones. Two episodes in and i'm hookd.
Title: Re: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 10 November, 2014, 10:40:56 pm
Assuming you haven't already read the books, Game of Thrones is a bit like Breaking Bad - you've got NO idea what you're getting into, and just how crazy its going to get as it goes on!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 12 November, 2014, 12:52:20 am
Just finished off season 3 of HBO's Girls. I have a bit of a love/hate thing with this show. On the one hand there's a precociousness about writer/star Lena Dunham than can be a bit hard to take (both on and off-screen - I admire her while also finding her a bit annoying), the show can feel formless and a little self-indulgent, and there's a commitment to making the characters authentically flawed that perpetually teeters on the brink of making them completely irredeemable arseholes..... but overall I still kinda like it.

Season 3 was imo a huge improvement over the rather bleak season 2 (which I could take or leave), and it gets bonus points from me for guest-starring the mighty Richard E Grant. Also, Adam Driver is the real deal - it's no wonder he's destined for star(wars)dom.
Title: Re: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 12 November, 2014, 09:23:22 am
Assuming you haven't already read the books, Game of Thrones is a bit like Breaking Bad - you've got NO idea what you're getting into, and just how crazy its going to get as it goes on!
Watched episodes 3 through 5 last night. Crawled to bed at 2 in the morning a little light headed (I blame the Lancaster Bomber) but god this is some great television. It's been a long time since I saw a series that can make three hours fly by without me noticing.

One slight question though, and thats HOW CAN TYRION LANNISTER BE SO DAMN GOOD? Seriously, hats off to Martin and Dinkledge. Between them they've made quite possibly the most likeable and original character in literature right now. Every wcene he's in Dinkledge own's the role. Particularly loved how he coped with being kidnaped by Lady Stark. Sheer indifference.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 12 November, 2014, 07:09:13 pm
Coincidentally, I'm rewatching the entire series from the beginning right now, currently on s01e07.

It's simply astounding how much careful foreshadowing there is early on that only really becomes obvious on a rewatch, with the knowledge of later events, and the world-building is incredibly effective and economical. Right from the off they're laying the groundwork for minor characters - and even entire factions and locations - that only become significant later on in the story. Never twigged that things like Mance Rayder, the Greyjoy Rebellion and Dorne are regularly referenced way back in season 1!

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One slight question though, and thats HOW CAN TYRION LANNISTER BE SO DAMN GOOD?

An instant all-time classic TV character, and the undisputed star of the show. However, while you're being introduced to many excellent characters early on, you're going to be meeting a lot more of them as the show goes on, any one of whom could be the lead in a lesser series. For example, one of the show's most charismatic figures was only introduced in season 4!

My personal favourite is still Syrio Forell. How can such a minor character be so memorable?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 12 November, 2014, 07:23:49 pm
Right from the off they're laying the groundwork for minor characters - and even entire factions and locations - that only become significant later on in the story. Never twigged that things like Mance Rayder, the Greyjoy Rebellion and Dorne are regularly referenced way back in season 1!


Martin does this really well in the books too, by the time you reach the last chapter of the first book, you're aware of a great many, seemingly inconsequential people, places and things. As the pages unfold you begin to realise these aren't just throwaways to make the world seem bigger, they've been playing the Game all along and are a big part of a MASSIVE world. A massive world described in overly tedious detail.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 12 November, 2014, 07:53:46 pm
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As the pages unfold you begin to realise these aren't just throwaways to make the world seem bigger, they've been playing the Game all along and are a big part of a MASSIVE world.

Precisely. Apparently Martin professes to 'write from his head' - ie just write and see where the characters take the story, not making extensive notes etc, but I find it hard to believe that all of the story beats weren't painstakingly laid out years in advance - plot-wise it's like a swiss watch.

Martin has this reputation for 'trolling' his readers which, having now seen every episode of the TV show and read most of the books - I think is unfounded. He's not some hack writer throwing nasty twists and unexpected deaths (of which there aren't nearly as many as some people make out) in for the sake of it. Though admittedly some of the nastier twists really sting at the time, they always make complete sense within the narrative, and in hindsight were inevitable. I never feel 'tricked' - I just kick myself for not seeing it coming.

Without an encyclopaedic knowledge of the books, I don't know how much foreshadowing is verbatim, but there are definitely things invented for the TV show that help to speed things along - like giving Theon an arc in season 1.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 14 November, 2014, 04:58:44 pm
So, first season of Game of Thrones completed and what a belly full that was. And it still only felt like the first act. So many memoriable characters (Bronn turned out to be a firm favourite. I hope he sticks around, he's given me probably one of my new favourite quotes) and some truely shocking moments (Ned Stark getting the chop. Jesus christ) has solidified this as my new most anticipated show. Hurry up Now TV! Get the second season online!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 14 November, 2014, 05:28:01 pm
I'm still trundling along at a slow pace with the original Battlestar Gallactica.  There have been so OK episodes but it's starting to get a little tiresome.  I think I can see the appeal, however.  It does seem to identify things like social issues even if fails to engage beyond a superficial level with them.  It's a rare thing even then.  Mostly I am finding it a flavour of silly that isn't entirely to my taste.  I don't know whether I'll watch all the episodes.  It is definitely interesting to see the source material for some of the concepts and stories that appeared in the remake.

Maybe if I interspersed it more with episodes of X-Files - which I inexplicably stopped watching.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 14 November, 2014, 05:29:19 pm
Glad to hear it. Did you know about Ned in advance? Hard to believe anyone in the Western world doesn't now know about that, and the dragons by now.

Personally I found season 2, while still great, to be a bit of a bump in the road, but seasons 3 and 4 are both magnificent.

Bronn is easily one of the best characters, but expect to grow to like certain characters you've already met a lot more as the series goes on.....  :-X

For me the standout moment of season 1 was probably this bit:

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Kevan Lannister: "The great hairy one insisted he must have two battleaxes. Heavy black steel, double-sided".

Tyrion: (nonchalantly sipping wine) "Shagga likes axes".
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 14 November, 2014, 05:33:39 pm
Personally I found season 2, while still great, to be a bit of a bump in the road, but seasons 3 and 4 are both magnificent.

That's encouraging - I loved season one, but sort of trailed off halfway through season 2. I still intend to finish it, but I'm glad it picks up a bit.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 14 November, 2014, 05:38:43 pm
Oh heck yeah. To be honest the Dragons came as a bit of a dissapointment, if in execution only as I felt the CGI was somewhat lacking. I am however familier with how the look in later seasons so i'll over look it.

Bronn clicked with me due to his witty exchange with Lysa Arryn.

Arryn: "You don't fight with honour!"

Bronn: "No...But he did 'Looks down at the whole where sirEgen fell'"

Coass writing that. Oh, but I assume this character is The Mountain ? I assumed that was going somewhere as we never actualy saw him get arrested. Either him or Jorah Mormont whom i've already grown to like as a character.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 14 November, 2014, 05:54:25 pm
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but I'm glad it picks up a bit.

That's putting it mildly  :lol:

I found season 2 to suffer a bit from 'difficult second album' syndrome. It founders a bit in the absence of a single main storyline/protagonist and feels a bit messy and unfocused as a result. It also (and this is just me being biased as I was reading it at the time) imo totally fluffs some of the standout moments of the book - I won't go into details but certain plot changes they made make the actions of certain characters make no sense at all (for example Jon coming across like a total buffoon throughout).

They also totally neglect certain key characters to devote more screen-time to fan-favourite characters like Danaerys (who has very little to actually do in the narrative at this point) eg Stannis, Davos and Melisandre - very important characters in the overall story who are totally shortchanged in the adaptation. They're just not very well established or characterised, and my girlfriend (who I use as a litmus test for the 'average viewer') still has to be reminded who they are every single time they appear. The romantic subplot for a certain character (greatly embellished from the novels) also takes up a lot of screentime and is quite tedious.

Not to put anyone off - it's still great TV, just be aware that it really gets back into full steam towards the end of season 2 (and it's well worth persevering to witness the incredible penultimate episode)...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 15 November, 2014, 11:03:59 am
Only four episodes into Breaking bad but it's had some great stuff already. The chemistry lesson/flirting intercut with disposing of the mess of the body and the whole thing with Crazy 8 in the cellar being particualrly top notch telly.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 15 November, 2014, 11:26:57 am
Just finished a leisurely, indulgent rewatch of Firefly capped off with Serenity.  Truly remarkable, one of the most finely-crafted genre TV shows ever produced.  It finds its feet instantly (in the intended viewing order, that is), establishes a believable ship-as-a-home thing immediately, is (almost) consistently good throughout its 14 episodes and film, and effortlessly delivers great character moments without dipping too far into schmaltz. Every bit as good as its evangelists would have you believe.

I was very impressed this time by how well the movie ties into the series, allowing for a few summarising tweaks and the slightly-off Shepherd Book, I remember finding it more jarring at the time.  What I almost couldn't believe is the absence of Reavers from the TV series - in my memory they had been a regular presence, but in reality its just a single brief chase, a booby-trap and one disturbed survivor of an attack, all the rest is purely from characters' conversation.  Amazing.

I still can't decide whether losing the vast further potential of the characters and setting that is evident in every episode is worth the fact that what we did get remains fresh and near-perfect, and was never diluted or stretched out to the point of boredom.  It's a toughie.

A treasure of a line from near the end:

Wash: [talking about River] Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science-fiction.
Zoe: You live on a spaceship, dear.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 15 November, 2014, 01:12:31 pm
I personally felt the evangelists oversold Firefly.  I thought it was OK, but no where near as good as I heard.  Which unfortunately means I feel it's over-rated.  If it weren't for being exposed to fandom before viewing I'd have probably thought it was... OK.  Hmmm.  Well, it's enjoyable enough.  Doesn't spark for me in any great way.  Good characters, nice idea.  I think it was the stories that failed to engage me, though.  I can only remember three episodes and two of them I do not remember fondly.  The infiltration one was pretty good.

The way they dealt with reavers in the series was really good and there is a lot in the show that was a set up for further series.  It's easy to see that this was the start of something and I think it doesn't entirely measure up because of the promise of what was to come that never materialised.  Serenity is good and entertaining but really serves to just put a cap on a story that wasn't given much of chance.

I wasn't as annoyed that Firefly got cancelled as much as I was that Stargate Universe did.  That show certainly didn't hit the floor running and had many faults but towards the end it's quality was improving exponentially.  Can't bring myself to watch the final episode, though.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: von Boom on 15 November, 2014, 01:20:06 pm
Half way through Firefly myself. I'm trying not to rush through it since there is so little to enjoy. I think the time is right for an animated Firefly series so we can continue the adventures in the 'Verse. I swear by my pretty floral bonnet...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 15 November, 2014, 01:52:43 pm
I can only remember three episodes and two of them I do not remember fondly. 

Funny you should say that, because I was surprised how poorly I remembered individual episodes (with the exceptions of Our Mrs. Reynolds, Objects in Space and the series-best Jaynestown*) - the character stuff, incidents, settings, yes, but I had only a vague idea of how they fitted into an episode structure, and I'd watched it through at least three times before (admittedly some time ago). 

That's one thing that I find to be so successful about it - rather than my enjoyment depending on lurching between episodic plots of varying quality (in the way something like ST:TNG does, where I'm sometimes forcing myself to watch episodes that I know are going to be unforgiveably bad) the core of the crew and their home is what makes the show: individual plots are often just ways to showcase their attitudes, or reactions to new characters (Saffron, Niska, Jubal Early etc). 

There are a few slightly duff plots (I've no idea how the crew escape from their missile-laden pursuers in 'The Message', for example, and the tinfoil-brothel episode makes very little sense), but even those are so chock-full of interesting character interactions that it's sort-of irrelevant.  So yes, perhaps in terms of episode plotting there are shortcomings (and let's face it, the pseudo-SF setting is pretty nonsensical), but as a roman-fleuve** focusing on the fortunes of a group of complex and engaging characters as they explore their world, it's a rare complete success (for me).   

Conversely, this means that if you don't fall for the characters and their witty banter littered with makey-uppy language, you may well be disappointed.


*An episode not spoiled one iota by revelations that Adam Baldwin is actually Jayne in real life
**See what I did there?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 15 November, 2014, 03:55:50 pm
I wasn't as annoyed that Firefly got cancelled as much as I was that Stargate Universe did.  That show certainly didn't hit the floor running and had many faults but towards the end it's quality was improving exponentially.

The only way was up?

My favorite episode of SGU was the one where they encounter a time loop, and the viewer knows it's a time loop because not only have they seen time loop episodes of tv shows before, but time loop episodes happened at least once (sometimes more) a season in the two previous Stargate shows, as did alternate reality episodes (the penultimate episode of Stargate Atlantis - the show that directly precedes Stargate Universe - was an alternate reality episode and didn't even bother with a framing or bookend sequence set in the "regular" Stargate universe because alternate reality episodes were so commonplace) and also bog-standard time travel or paradox episodes - yet the entire cast of SGU have to sit around a big table and discuss at length what this conundrum they've encountered could possibly be.
Better than that, when the scientist - the smartest man in the room (that is in a spaceship) - suggests that it might be a time loop or an alternate reality, the cast are all like "that's just science fiction stuff", despite the fact that they were having the conversation on a spaceship and would have been briefed about the possibility of encountering such phenomenon because of the 15 years of documented encounters with alternate realities and time loops by people with whom the cast were communicating on a regular basis.
I can vaguely understand the idea of making characters genre-blind in order to avoid breaking suspension of disbelief necessary to the fiction, but in what was technically the sixteenth year of a franchise based on stripmining other sci-fi properties for ideas and then not only hanging a lantern on doing so, but making at least four episodes whose entire premise was pointing out that someone psychically linked to a character couldn't get work as a scriptwriter because all the ideas he presented (gleaned from the adventures of the cast of the show) were deemed too unoriginal by the tv executives who were making the show in which the story was currently being told, you kind of have to admire the sheer chutzpah of thinking people would go along with it almost as much as you have to admire the producers then blaming the show's complete failure on fans who had nothing to do with its production.

Even among a series with episodes where characters encounter alternate versions of their lives where cast members play different versions of themselves that then turns out to be a delusion or a dream state (also a yearly occurrence in SG1 and SGA), that episode is a truly magnificent example of the kind of joyless stupidity that killed a once-invincible franchise.


For added Firefly linkage, SGU was an attempt to copy the success of Battlestar Galactica, which was written, produced, and SFX-ed by people who'd previously been heavily-involved in the making of Firefly.  Serenity even appears in the background of a shot in the BSG pilot.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 15 November, 2014, 04:08:59 pm
...yet the entire cast of SGU have to sit around a big table and discuss at length what this conundrum they've encountered could possibly be.
Better than that, when the scientist - the smartest man in the room (that is in a spaceship) - suggests that it might be a time loop or an alternate reality, the cast are all like "that's just science fiction stuff", despite the fact that they were having the conversation on a spaceship and would have been briefed about the possibility of encountering such phenomenon because of the 15 years of documented encounters with alternate realities and time loops by people with whom the cast were communicating on a regular basis.

Contrast this with SG1, where the genre-savvy cast remark on a regular basis how their current adventure resembles Alien, Star Wars or The Simpsons.  Or BtVS, where everyone immediately identifies Warren's oddly-behaving girlfriend as a robot, despite it being only the second robot they encountered.  It undermines the seriousness of the situation (something SGU took very, err, seriously), but also makes the characters much more believable, and relatable, as our contemporaries. 

(As an aside, I've often wondered what it must have been like for the San Francisco characters in STIV:TVH to encounter Kirk, Spock and the IKD Bounty, coming as they do from a world where there was no Star Trek).

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 15 November, 2014, 04:15:46 pm
I so loved STU! Wish Syfu will film few more episodes to finished off the show. There was Season 3 scripts online and thought that was perfect finish off as it was just 6 episodes scripts.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 15 November, 2014, 08:47:26 pm
Sorry Allah Akbark, I lost track of what you were criticising.  I'm under the impression you aren't a Stargate fan.  I can understand, I didn't like it during it's original showing. 

I watched SG1 almost all the way through a few years ago and actually reappraised my opinion.  I really like SG1s self-referential awareness about what kind of show it was.  It actually works well in its favour.  The characters are surprisingly entertaining and likeable.  It loses pace towards the end, though.

SGA, for me, was a mess and I gave up on it long before getting to the end.

SGU almost didn't catch my attention.  My first impression was "this is a Battlestar Gallactica rip-off".  Except it isn't.   There are similarities, certainly, but this was a different take on the space-opera survival genre.  It also takes Stargate in a new direction with a degree of disassociation with the previous entries in the franchise.  It actually struggled to set itself apart from SG1, SGA and Battlestar Galactica story wise and had some poor casting choices.  Robert Carlyle carries a lot of the show himself allowing some other actors to start shining - notably Jamil Walker Smith in his role of Master Sgt. Greer.  By the end of the second series I was entirely engaged, invested and entertained.  It seemed a little bit like a trial by fire but for my money the show was going to come out the other side as something fantastic.  Then it got cancelled.  I was very disappointed.

Firefly, on the other hand, was cancelled before I watched it.  I had actually seen the film first (and enjoyed it) before finding out about Firefly.  I heard it was fantastic, amazing and it's cancellation was the biggest crime against television ever.  I just didn't see it.  It obviously didn't deserve to get cancelled based on quality.  It's quality was consistent and it had a very capable cast and crew.  The consistency is perhaps the problems, it achieved it's potential.  It hit the ground running, kept pace (mostly) then ended (kind of abruptly).  If there was a second series it would have been more of the same quality.  SGU faltered at it's start but I think it became a better program.  I certainly enjoyed it more than Firefly in the end as it engaged more with what I am interested in seeing in a sci-fi TV show.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 15 November, 2014, 09:48:48 pm
Pretty sure I'm on the record as a Stargate fan, and I even thought several Atlantis episodes were objectively great even if there wasn't half enough of Robert Picardo smoking cigars and being an asshole in that show for my liking.  Also kudos for their great Tealc/Ronan episode where people just act confused that the two identical characters don't get along, fully aware that they are living in fanfiction that for some reason the producers have chosen to film.

I suspect we'll simply have to agree to disagree on how much SGU sucked or not.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 15 November, 2014, 10:04:14 pm
Pretty sure I'm on the record as a Stargate fan...

My mistake then. 

I suspect we'll simply have to agree to disagree on how much SGU sucked or not.

Given our differing opinions on BSG and the remake it's hardly surprising to me that we differ in opinion about SGU.  At least we are being consistent ;)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 15 November, 2014, 10:07:10 pm
Gonna have to side with the dog in a fez on this one: SG-U is objectively terrible. Or, at least, the first half of Season 1 is — I genuinely couldn't be arsed to pick up after the mid-season break, so piss-poor were the initial episodes. The previous SG series weren't great television, but at least they were engaging and fun. SG-U just sacrificed everything that was enjoyable about the previous contributions to the franchise on the altar of its utterly misguided attempt to reinvent itself as new-era BSG. Which, for the record, was also shit.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 15 November, 2014, 10:40:38 pm
Well yes, I can understand animosity to the start of SGU if you can't get past the BSG remake comparison and hated the BSG remake anyway.

I wouldn't be able to agree that the first half of the first season of SG-U is 'objectively terrible'.  Subjectively, yeah, but objectively, no.  This just tempts a debate/argument of the Cartesian nature of quality.  I doubt anyone wants that.

Anyway, to be a SGU cheerleader a little more, for anyone who doesn't dislike the BSG remake and can get past similarities I would certainly recommend watching both series of SGU.  Also fans of Robert Carlyle - who does provides an excellent performance from the outset.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mardroid on 16 November, 2014, 05:02:14 am
I'm recently picked up the first series of Ashes to Ashes on DVD and I'm working my way through that. Not as good as the later series, maybe, but still pretty good.

I also recently noticed that the third series of American Horror Story is on Netflix. I'm only a couple of episodes in so far but it's interesting, rather warped stuff.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 16 November, 2014, 06:28:04 pm
SGU starts as a series with a good idea that clumsily muddles along the SG universe and is a bit dire overall, before turning into a more standalone affair that has some great moments and was well worth the watch. Mainly once they stop trying to juggle SG1 campness with some actual weird consequences.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 20 November, 2014, 01:21:36 pm
I solved a mild conundrum last night.

About four or five years ago, a bloke at work recommended a little heard of TV show called Breaking Bad. I think it was on council telly at the time.  I tuned in to one episode and despite not knowing exactly what was going on, thought it was very good and resolved to watch more.

I tuned in the next week but it was no longer in the schedules. I cursed the schedulers (d their constant need to move programmes between timeslots in case anybody actually gets into the habit of watching a show!) and then forgot about it.

Fast forward to 2013 and everybody and their dog is talking about how brilliant it is and I feel left out.

Last night, I see Season 1 Episode 7 - it's the episode I saw all of those years ago.  And it's the end of season episode.  Which explains why I never found another episode to watch.

So I apologise to the schedulers that I cursed. (But you still shouldn't have sold it on to Sky or whoever).
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 20 November, 2014, 01:36:11 pm
The Thick of It.  Only ever caught the odd episode, but last night just finished Season 2 on Netflix.  We were really enjoying the intense 20 minute chunks, and initially resented the shift to hour-long Christmas specials, but bloody hell by the end we were on the edge of our seats - fantastic telly, somehow convoluted in both plot and language, and yet deadly simple at the same time.  My poor wife, a communications type by trade, has identified herself completely with Joanna Scanlon's Terri and her 'oh god that's just my life' wails make the whole thing so much funnier.  For me.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 20 November, 2014, 01:42:02 pm
One of the few comedies that actualy got in in universe term jnto the Oxford Dictionary.

Oh, and obligatory Capaldi is shit hot as Tucker post.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 20 November, 2014, 01:44:58 pm
You finally met Malcolm Tucker!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 20 November, 2014, 01:56:26 pm
Currently watching an episode a night of Sapphire and Steel. So glad my mum was enlightened enough to show me the infamous 'railway station' story when I was just the right age (7 or 8, I think). I mean, obviously it shared the living sh*t out of me but stayed with me ever since, in a profound way that only stuff watched in those formative years can.

The programme may be older than I am but the effects work holds up remarkably well for the most part (excepting that not-too-great third story). The character interplay is great and Joanna Lumley is gorgeous, o'course. Must check out those audio adventures one of these days.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 20 November, 2014, 03:08:19 pm
So I apologise to the schedulers that I cursed. (But you still shouldn't have sold it on to Sky or whoever).

Your beef is with AMC


Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Proudhuff on 20 November, 2014, 03:16:54 pm
The Thick of It.  Only ever caught the odd episode, but last night just finished Season 2 on Netflix.  We were really enjoying the intense 20 minute chunks, and initially resented the shift to hour-long Christmas specials, but bloody hell by the end we were on the edge of our seats - fantastic telly, somehow convoluted in both plot and language, and yet deadly simple at the same time.  My poor wife, a communications type by trade, has identified herself completely with Joanna Scanlon's Terri and her 'oh god that's just my life' wails make the whole thing so much funnier.  For me.

'In the Loop' takes the whole circus to Washington and has a wonderful Tucker rant that I won't spoil here.
I've mostly been watching House of Cards series II which ends well  :D and have started Penny Dreadful _ no Dredd yet and also a lot more grownup and thoughtful than I was lead to believe.

Also have True Detective lined up, that comes highly recommended so fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 20 November, 2014, 04:27:10 pm
The Thick of It.  Only ever caught the odd episode, but last night just finished Season 2 on Netflix.  We were really enjoying the intense 20 minute chunks, and initially resented the shift to hour-long Christmas specials, but bloody hell by the end we were on the edge of our seats - fantastic telly, somehow convoluted in both plot and language, and yet deadly simple at the same time.  My poor wife, a communications type by trade, has identified herself completely with Joanna Scanlon's Terri and her 'oh god that's just my life' wails make the whole thing so much funnier.  For me.

It takes no prisoners between series either. It just jumps straight in and leaves you to join the dots.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 20 November, 2014, 04:36:42 pm
Though I adore pretty much everything Armando Ianucci has done, I could never get into The Thick of It/In The Loop/Veep for the simple reason that I find the machinations of party politics incredibly dull as a subject matter. It's why I don't really like any kind of political satire, or even something like House of Cards - I just don't care about that world or the kind of people that populate it.

It just leaves me totally cold apart for the inventive Capaldi swearing.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 20 November, 2014, 10:26:19 pm
Just finished a leisurely, indulgent rewatch of Firefly capped off with Serenity.  Truly remarkable, one of the most finely-crafted genre TV shows ever produced. 
... [lots of stuff about how great Firefly is] ...
Conversely, this means that if you don't fall for the characters and their witty banter littered with makey-uppy language, you may well be disappointed.
I'm afraid this is me. I detest the theme tune and physically cringe every time someone mentions "the 'Verse." I don't dislike the series but I'm firmly with Pictsy block in terms of reputation vastly overshadowing actual impact. Personally, I think the cast is just a little too big so that giving everyone on the ship a little time to shine ends up meaning there is no core to focus on which didn't work for me. I also think the lack of a real bad egg in the basket hamstrings it in a way. I realise Jayne is supposed to fill that role but he ends up just being a lovable buffoon rather than Avon. Or more Andrew than Warren if you prefer.

...What I almost couldn't believe is the absence of Reavers from the TV series - in my memory they had been a regular presence, but in reality its just a single brief chase, a booby-trap and one disturbed survivor of an attack, all the rest is purely from characters' conversation.  Amazing. ...
There's pleasure tinged with sadness round my way as I only have two episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer left to watch. I had seen most of the final series before but, rather like these Reavers, I  had remembered Captain Reynolds' Caleb as being a constant presence whereas, in real life, he's only in the last few episodes. Then again, I'd also remembered it as being Jonathan who ends up joining the gang when it's actually Andrew.

Again, this has been a series where a long time is spent picking over the fallout from the previous before concentrating on the new. That's not necessarily a bad thing.

There have been a couple of very good episodes. The Willow/Warren bodyswap, for example, manages to have decent laughs, character development and a real edge about the horrendous, self-imposed guilt of moving on from loss. Some interesting redefining of the roles and relationships between the characters too: Giles in particular. However, an awful lot of time is spent with Buffy going on about getting ready for  the war that's coming and very little time actually showing this. With the caveats that average Buffy is still better than most things and I'm looking forward to the big finale but it seems like it's going out on maybe its weakest year.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 20 November, 2014, 11:13:46 pm
I'm firmly with Pictsy block

I love the idea of having a block named after me in MC1.  Would be so awesome :D

BtvS is a show I find something extra to appreciate every time I watch it.  I've only watched it in it's entirety twice and saw a good number of the original showings with some impressively well defined characters.... including the women.  Caleb was certainly a highlight and definitely more memorable than Captain Reynolds.  Not necessarily a fair comparison as Caleb was so good at being villainous and Nathan Fillion is so convincing in the role.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 21 November, 2014, 07:12:32 am
Our own Buffy/Angel combo re-watch has stalled at the end of the excellent Season 6, as we try to get through Angel Season 3 to catch up and get back in sync.  Not that there's anything wrong with Angel, we just keep getting distracted into watching other things, and time is limited.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 21 November, 2014, 08:58:17 am
Nobody can be bothered with Conner.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 21 November, 2014, 09:15:30 am
Nobody can be bothered with Conner.

I have attention-span problems with the whole Pylea-Fredcentric-Conner period.  There's a lot of good stuff in there, but so far the pre-Pylea parts of Season 2 overshadow what we seem to have been watching for months now. Having finally established Angel as an interesting character in his own right (not an easy task), he seems to move into a background role for too long.  Billy, the The Shining episode, with its leaden 'all men harbour a primordial misogyny' thesis sitting uncomfortably with Fred's nominative-deterministic Scooby Doo antics, nearly made me give up entirely. Hence the Firefly and Thick of It diversions.

It's still perfectly good telly, but not uncoincidentally, this is where I stopped watching regularly when it was broadcast. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 21 November, 2014, 11:41:19 am
Worth everything to get through to the last season. I hated Conner and the Beast bit, though there are a couple of episodes in there. Wesley's transition to the guy he was pretending to be in his first appearance on Angel is the highlight.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 10 December, 2014, 11:08:09 am
Just finished The Detectorists, by and starring a loveable McKenzie Crook.  Okay, so I'm squarely in the target audience, but I thought this was a charmingly gentle sitcom of a type you don't really see any more, well researched and pleasingly complete.  I like that it highlighted the intellectual lives of men in 'menial' jobs, something I see all the time on construction sites, where you're just as likely to have a grand chat about the War of the Spanish Succession or Stegosauruses with the guy who keeps the tarmac warm as you are with supposed educated bastions of culture like architects and planners.  Not a drop of nastiness in it either. Possibly some of the supporting cast were too broadly stereotyped, and maybe him off Horrible Histories took me out of it rather too often as I was expecting to see him in a toga in the next scene, but the core five or six characters were great. With a bit of trimming of subplots it'd make a brilliant stage play.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ming on 10 December, 2014, 01:38:55 pm
Just finished The Detectorists...

I knew you'd like this.  I loved it to bits - apparently M. Crook is a real-life detectorist and used his own kit during filming, which he had to turn off to prevent him getting distracted and eager to dig about all the time.  Anyway, for me, that one of the best comedies for quite some time; nicely understated and the lack of a bloody laughter track was very welcome.  Looking forward to more!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 10 December, 2014, 02:47:47 pm
Just finished The Detectorists...

I knew you'd like this... that was one of the best comedies for quite some time; nicely understated and the lack of a bloody laughter track was very welcome.  Looking forward to more!

It really was superb. After episode 1 I thought 'That was a good bit of fun. I'll try to remember to catch the next one.' By episode 6 I'd come to enjoy the little world so much I actually had a lump in my throat when it ended. A nice gentle comedy that didn't see 'gentle' as a dirty word but something to be embraced.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 11 December, 2014, 07:28:48 am
And how great was that final shot! Pure class.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 11 December, 2014, 02:04:40 pm
Been confirmed for a second series next year, too (although that could have been a perfect place to end it!)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 11 December, 2014, 07:30:47 pm
Missed out on Detectorists but I'm sure I'll catch it at some point as I've heard it's grand. Subject matter wise it's one of those things that's so close to home it doesn't really provoke interest. As much as I'd love to spend my evening thinking about my day job...

Gentle comedywise I can't recommend Puppy Love on BBC4 any higher - from Joanna Scanlan & Vicky Pepperdine wot did the gloriously deadpan 'Getting On' (some episodes of which were directed by Capaldi!) it's a a great bit of seriously addictive character comedy and has had me hooting.

Just finished Dagvaktin ('Day Shift') as well - a very brilliant, very brutal and dry comedy drama from Iceland that revolves around a tremendously well-observed odious prick called Georg played by Reykjavik's former mayor (!) and perennial god Jon Gnarr.

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If you're looking for some great telly and want something very different I can't recommend it higher but it's not easy to come by. They screened the first series called 'Naeturvaktin' (Night Shift) on the BBC a few years ago and so you can sometimes find it - but it's an arse to find subtitled so I just bought the Icelandic DVD (as they are also Region 2) which has bumpy but solid English subs.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 11 December, 2014, 08:58:47 pm
Just finished Dagvaktin ('Day Shift') as well - a very brilliant, very brutal and dry comedy drama from Iceland that revolves around a tremendously well-observed odious prick called Georg played by Reykjavik's former mayor (!) and perennial god Jon Gnarr.

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If you're looking for some great telly and want something very different I can't recommend it higher but it's not easy to come by. They screened the first series called 'Naeturvaktin' (Night Shift) on the BBC a few years ago and so you can sometimes find it - but it's an arse to find subtitled so I just bought the Icelandic DVD (as they are also Region 2) which has bumpy but solid English subs.

Was it you that I chatted about the Night Shift with at Inverness airport while we waited for the bus to Hi-Ex a few years back? You remain to this day the only other person I know who's seen it. Having spent more years than I'd have liked working in a petrol station at that point I did more than once expierience the same sort of thing as you mentioned with Detectorists.

Always meant to seek out the rest of the series but last time I looked there wasn't a region 2 DVD - and I just looked it up on Amazon! Christ! £35! No thanks. Where did you find the Icelandic one, O...?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 11 December, 2014, 10:50:44 pm
A lot of patience and eBay - but yes you'll not find them for cheaper than £20 a series - It's hugely worth it though!

Blimey I was just thinking about Inverness the other day - seems like forever ago!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 13 December, 2014, 09:00:26 pm
Lois and Clark: the New Adventures of Superman season 2.

Both better and worse than I remember, it's pretty darn nineties all up in here in terms of clothes and hairstyles, but for some reason it really, really reminds me of Gotham, with dudes in period suits, unconvincing sets, dated characters and scenarios... I could absolutely see these shows being set in the same fictional universe, and given that Man of Steel is a cinema franchise and Gotham is a tv franchise and never the twain shall meet (there's some creative and marketing synergy for you), there's no real reason to assume otherwise.
It's all good clean fun, but the biggest problem - like the previous season - is that Lois is just such an asshole I cannot for the life of me see what the attraction is, certainly not when there are smarter, kinder and warmer women who share the screen with Clark and if anything only serve to highlight what a charmless shrew Lois really is.  I could understand if Clark thought she was work but eventually found her assholery to be some sort of defensive mechanism that hid a much better person, but that's not the case - he's in love with her from the start, and she constantly betrays that she's small-minded, jealous, greedy, selfish and hateful at her core, so their relationship is ultimately baffling.
I love how Superman - rather than some awe-inspiring demigod - is seen by the citizens of Metropolis as just some dude they see around town who's vaguely famous, like that man in New York who plays guitar in his underpants.  There's a bit where some guy slips in the snow and Superman flies down from the sky and helps him stand up and they guy is like "Oh, Superman.  (pause)  Thanks." and then they chat about Christmas.  I like this idea that Superman isn't terrifying, that his name isn't an imperialist statement of intent and just a goofy affectation, that he wears tights and underpants and a Dracula cape and that people are a hair's breath away from calling him out on it and telling him he looks stupid, and then some guy does that anyway and Superman rebuts with "my mom made this costume for me" and the guy just looks like a dick for saying it.
The scripts are all over the place and the production budget sometimes struggles with the odd bit of overambition - like Superman chasing a runaway fuel truck - but it works in the same way that the virtual reality of a professional wrestling storyline works, in that it quickly establishes the immediacy of any given scenario of panto suspense and rolls with it, adhering to its own internal logic and playing things out without breaking your concentration, and for a superhero tv show with a low budget I don't think you can really ask for much more.  Shakespeare it is not, but it has considerable charm that is magnified by how dated it occasionally looks.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 15 December, 2014, 10:14:35 am
I always thought Margot Kidder's Lois was the best characterisation, alongside the sublme Dini/Timm-verse of course.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 15 December, 2014, 01:51:48 pm
Teri Hatcher was awful. Pretty but awful.  One of those cases where they don't bother writing a plausible romance because everybody knows they are meant to love each other.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 15 December, 2014, 02:13:14 pm
I'd say that's fair.  There's never anything onscreen that justifies Clark's interest in Lois beyond the name of the show itself, but the sad thing is that the then-current comics that were being stripmined for ideas - the Byrne/Jurgens/Wolman years that created the dystopian Krypton, businessman Lex Luthor, studly Clark Kent, etc - created a pretty good Lois whose assholery and competitiveness stemmed from a childhood as a transient army brat, so there was an in-built rationale for her defensiveness and lack of roots or long-term friendships that didn't preclude her being a decent person, but L&C instead makes her a middle class kid who's just tired of not getting her way and blames other people constantly for her own failings - she is just a horrible human being, and that's before you even get to Hatcher's unconvincing delivery.

If I remember right, the dreadful Smallville appropriated the army-brat version of Lois and she was one of the few good things about that show.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 15 December, 2014, 02:24:12 pm
I hated Lois in Smallville. All the brat, none of the resourcefulness or integrity. The made-for-tv Chloe character was the Lois stand-in and a much nicer, funnier and interesting person than her cousin from Metropolis. When Lois appeared they really started scraping the barrel and completely disconnected from the idea that Clark from Smallville would eventually be Superman a la comics.


Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 15 December, 2014, 02:36:26 pm
While it would have been great if she stopped using cultural references from before she was even born, the Smallville version of Lois was the only castmember who was an active instigator of events rather than just waiting around for things to happen like Clark and the gang did.  She espoused a moral and social responsibility that had until her introduction been absent from the series, whose cast - with the exception of villains - were entirely reactive - worse, through awful characters like Clark's dad, the show was espousing the kind of discredited and dangerous know-your-role parochialism that was antithetical to the core concepts of Superman.  When Lois came along, obnoxious as she was, she pushed a truly dreadful character into being something better.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 15 December, 2014, 05:24:58 pm
It was Lois and Jimmy Olsen that helped me through many a bad episode of Smallville. Often the best things in it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 15 December, 2014, 08:02:58 pm
You mean Henry Olsen.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 16 December, 2014, 01:11:20 pm
While it would have been great if she stopped using cultural references from before she was even born, the Smallville version of Lois was the only castmember who was an active instigator of events rather than just waiting around for things to happen like Clark and the gang did.  She espoused a moral and social responsibility that had until her introduction been absent from the series, whose cast - with the exception of villains - were entirely reactive - worse, through awful characters like Clark's dad, the show was espousing the kind of discredited and dangerous know-your-role parochialism that was antithetical to the core concepts of Superman.  When Lois came along, obnoxious as she was, she pushed a truly dreadful character into being something better.

You clearly watched more Smallville than me :)

You know who was really good in Lois & Clark? Ma and Pa Kent. Though I didn't dislike the Hazzard lad as Clark's dad, thought he did a better job than Martin Sheen. Don't really remember much 'know your role' beyond the whole tired 'farm is going under' theme.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 16 December, 2014, 01:19:30 pm
You mean Henry Olsen.

I was trying to avoid a spoiler.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 16 December, 2014, 01:53:55 pm
It's been literally years since it's been on TV.

Don't really remember much 'know your role' beyond the whole tired 'farm is going under' theme.

Clark is constantly told by his dad to keep his head down, never reveal himself, and never help others.  When Clark (accidentally) helps others, his dad always says something along the lines of "I know you saved those people, son, BUT--"
Selfless altruism is seen as weakness by Clark's dad, and when you factor in his instinctive dislike of Lex Luther even when the show's writers have gone to great lengths to make it clear he isn't evil, Clark's dad just looks like someone warning his son off hanging around with someone because of who their dad is, the end result of which is that after years of Clark lying to Lex (who is often motivated by altruism and friendship, and often comes a cropper because of Clark's lies and omissions), Lex is corrupted by the only other moral influence in his life - his evil and eventually-barmy father - and slides into corruption, all because Clark is an ineffective hero, a coward, and a terrible friend.
By elevating Johnathan Kent - whose character is indistinguishable from that of a domineering homophobic bully - to being a yardstick of outstanding morality rather than an example of everything that's wrong with America, Smallville's main character takes over a decade to become Superman, and even then he is both forced into the role, and is so thoroughly ashamed of it that Superman doesn't even appear onscreen.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 16 December, 2014, 03:20:08 pm
Fair point if I think a slightly stronger interpretation than I remember :) Homophobic though? And on a side note, Lex Luthor was the best thing about that show. Almost as good as when he played the Flash on JLU (and then played the Flash playing Lex Luthor, which was a great episode).

Though I still think nothing beats Sheen-Kent making Clark cry because he rescued a bus of schoolchildren. At least Smallville Kent just told him to be careful and worried alot.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 16 December, 2014, 09:10:25 pm
While you guys are watching credible drama about a guy who wears his underpants over his tights, I'm watching Japanese cartoons.

...

Wait. That wasn't NEARLY as clever a smart-ass comment as I thought it would be. Oh, well...

After hearing good things about the manga series it's based on, I picked up the DVD of the BTOOOM! anime. Flippin' HECK, this is good stuff!

It's one of those shows that starts of with a simple - you could even say silly - premise, but adds layers as it goes. Basically, a bunch of people arrive on an island where they're charged with killing each other to escape. Their only weapons are tiny bombs called BIMs, which appear to be unique to each 'player' and have ther own specific effects. Each of the island's new inhabitants also has a crystal implanted in their left hand which functions as a radar, and must be taken as a trophy once they've been killed. All of the above bears an uncanny resemblance to a hit video game in the 'real' world called BTOOOM!, which several of the characters on the island are aware of to one degree or another.

What makes it interesting is that NONE of the players are there by choice, and all of them seem to have been 'voted in' by somebody with a grudge against them. The real guts of the story lies in these backstories as they unfold, and the enmities and alliances that are formed on the island. I won't lie - it reminds me at times of the TV show 'Lost' in terms of its execution... but so for it's been much more satisfying and it's a hell of a lot gnarlier!   

I'm about halfway through, and it's a short series at 12 episodes. I've been trating myself to a couple of episodes every night when I'm done with work, and it's real 'can't wait to watch it' stuff.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 16 December, 2014, 10:00:35 pm
Well just finished The Wire season 4 and SHEEEE-TEH that's some hard stuff completely gutted that Bodie cops it and the fate of the kids was as depressing as I assume it was realistic.

While I still tink Season 2 might edge it I completely can't wait for Season 5 and much as I'd like to see Marlo get some compence I have no idea if that's the sort show this is, or the kinda ending they think is in anyway right.Which is why its so damned good!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 19 December, 2014, 10:07:14 am
I've been collecting classic Dr Who for a while as I've not seen most of these since the first time around when I was a  kid.

Finally got to watch The War Games last night - this was before my time and I've never seen it before. I knew the basic story as it was Troughton's last, but was surprised by how good it was. many of the old b/w eps are distinctly ropey but this was quality - and a 10 parter too!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 22 December, 2014, 02:53:46 pm
War Games in great. The Troughton era is all round solid and has my favourite double act in 2nd and Jamie. Great times.

I re-watched Rememberance of the Daleks the other day and it's still a seriously awesome series. Thinking I should listen to some of the stories set atter it by Big Finish featuring Davros.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 22 December, 2014, 09:04:55 pm
I have been watching copious amounts of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.  It's of reasonable quality that succeeds in making me laugh with it's own charm.  It can be a bit hit and miss, with a couple of series being less than funny.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 26 December, 2014, 07:36:12 pm
Avatar: The Legend of Korra concluded this week with quite simply one of the greatest finales I've ever seen in a TV show. From beginning to end it's been one of the most entertaining, innovative, and groundbreaking family shows around, and no where better is this shown than in the final moments of the show, which show's the culmination of 4 seasons of wonderful character development.

Saddened that this is (almost) the last we'll see of this truly wonderful universe, at least in the TV department, as it's been a constant companion through out my life from a child to a (kinda) adult. I'll miss it. But at least, now, I have the excuse to watch it all from the beginning again. Watch me, i'm pressing play on the first disc of Last Air Bender. And I might be gone some time...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 29 December, 2014, 10:19:19 am
Earth. Air. Fire. Water.

Long ago...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Noisybast on 29 December, 2014, 10:47:50 am
I've just marathoned the full run (to date) of Archer, and followed it up with season one of American Horror Story. A fine way to end a lurgy-filled Christmas break.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 02 January, 2015, 08:53:11 pm
Ooh Stargate: Universe finally on Netflix UK! That is one of finest Sci-Fi TV series.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Rog69 on 02 January, 2015, 11:46:40 pm
The Wife and I finally started watching Game of Thrones over the Christmas break, we just polished off season 1 tonight only to find that the rest of it it has now gone off the Sky on demand service. Bugger.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 03 January, 2015, 02:09:17 am
I'm currently burning my way through PSYCHO PASS, an anime so awesome it requires its title being typed in ALL CAPS.

Quite how this hasn't attained Ghost in the Shell levels of notoriety, I do not understand. It's brutal, it's brilliant and it's quite properly smart. I've got just four episodes left, and I'm actually in fear for some of these characters.

Please have a happy ending, please have a happy ending,  please have a happy ending...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 03 January, 2015, 06:05:58 pm
Prepare to be disappointing. It doesn't end well. :lol:
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 04 January, 2015, 01:53:12 am
I think the bigger issue is, with a second season broadcasting in Japan and a movie to come, it doesn't end *yet*.

Things ain't looking good for my favourite character in the show, though. Finishing it off tomorrow night. I'm going to be on pins and needles just like I was with Black Lagoon...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 04 January, 2015, 05:27:08 pm
You can rest easy with Black Lagoon. We've had 1 chapter in 3 years. Theirs nothing left to adapt. :lol:
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 05 January, 2015, 06:23:13 am
Heh! You have no idea how much I was expecting Revy to cop it in the series finale of that show. As the golden anime rule goes: If the manga ain't finished, nobody's safe!

Anyhoo, I'm still two episodes away from the finale of Psycho Pass season one. But I continued my current anime kick with a few episodes of Attack on Titan.

Not sure what I think of it so far. It's different, certainly, but the last couple of episodes weren't exacly what I'd call 'good'. I'm currently a bit mystified as to the popularity of it. But we'll see how it develops.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 05 January, 2015, 09:28:30 am
Honestly i'd be surprised if Black Lagoon ever gets continued at this point. The 9th volume came out here 2 years ago and the 14th is due anytime now, but it contains the chapters published to date. Last on (Wild Red Card part 11 I believe) was published monthly back in 2013. Sad thing if Hiroe isn't as well known as his creation, so theirs not been any coverage on what he's actually been doing in this time. Which is gutting because I looove Black Lagoon in all it's cheesy over the top glory.

I'm an unashamed fan of Attack on Titan. I acknowledge it as a great series, if an imperfect one. Take Marco's death for example. It was considered a huge catalyst for a number of the characters actions to join the survey corps, but it all felt a little forced because the viewers where never given any reason to care for him until the flashbacks. I won't hear a word against the animation though. As far as TV animated series go, AoT is one of the best this decade.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 05 January, 2015, 05:18:42 pm
ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT

I'd dipped my toes in before and hadn't enjoyed it but with regular viewings, I've really enjoyed this. 

Noticed a strange change in physical appearances (and quality of jokes) between Seasons 3 and 4 and looked it up on Wiki only to find out 7 years had passed.  No wonder George Michael looks so different.

I don't like the episodes dedicated to one character but some of the running gags are still inspired.

Will Arnett is just fantastic in it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 05 January, 2015, 07:21:38 pm
I thought that final netflix-only season was very cleverly done - all one story but told and retold through different characters POV
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 05 January, 2015, 09:50:14 pm
Yes, I can see that it's clever (about four episodes in) but it's just not as funny (some individual brillint gags aside).  Lindsey's episode was terrible and half of the one where Michael meets Ron Howard was awful (but half, great!)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 07 January, 2015, 02:25:28 am
Just to come back to Hawkmonger's comments:

Finished Psycho Pass yesterday and had no problems with the ending. GREAT stuff, and I was pleased to see the show didn't shy away from killing a few characters off along the way. One death in particular made me gulp down a few manly tears. I absolutely cannot wait to see the rest of it - even if poor sales over here mean I may have to wait for Funimation to put it out as an R1 DVD.

Attack on Titan, I'm about halfway through now. It's a visually stunning series, if a little too reliant on panned static shots for my liking. I feel like it faltered a bit after a strong start, but I'm pleased to see that my assumption of it being just a zombie show with a twist has been thoroughly disproved. 

Biggest complaint? The dub is of inconsistent quality. We've got Christopher Sabat turning in an amazing performance as a secondary character, and Bryce Papenbrook being unsufferably awful as Eren. I'm also finding myself increasingly irritated by Josh Grelle as Armin. These guys are so much better than the performances they bring to this show. And I've already spotted one instance of an old dear with the voice of a 20 year old. Gnng!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 07 January, 2015, 07:22:55 pm
In between fixing the tumble dryer, posting the last of the churstmas presents and sorting out our broadband cintract I have watched  DIE ANOTHER DAY and AVATAR.

Both better than I remember but still full of flaws.

AVATAR definitely benefits from being seen on a biggish screen in high def in glorious 3D as it's such an unashamed visual feast. The dialogue doesn't do much to explain why being a Navi is so wonderful but the script assumes the lushness of Pandora will just suck you in. Is it five years old? Special effects still look utterly flawless.

There aren't many things that would get worse when you add Rosamund Pike and Halle Berry but DIE ANOTHER DAY is one of them. It's not there fault as such. DAD is rattling along quite nicely as a serviceable "Bond goes rogue" movie until Halle arrives to utter terrible innuendo to Brosnan as he holds in his gut. Thereafter it becomes a massive sack of shit with zero surprises and a complete lack of wit. I have warmed slightly to the showdown on an exploding plane but still don't see why, when you build a villain as such a credible physical threat, you then emasculate him in a power rangers outfit.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Spikes on 11 January, 2015, 02:03:36 pm
Finally making good headway through my reading, and watching pile.
Which has me now dusting off, and viewing The Omega Factor complete series set, from 1979.

Now, I have no real recollection of this series at all (I suspect it was on past my bedtime, then) but after reading about it in my copy of the Ten Years of Terror book, ive been meaning to track this down for some time.

It's typically intense stuff, and all played incredibly seriously, from the tail-end of the 70's, and comes across like a slightly flared trouser-ed  version of the X-Files, except minus all the alien stuff. Or looking at stuff that was contemporary to it at the time, then Sapphire and Steel-ish. Kinda...

Main lead, James Hazeldine is on fine form, and eminently watchable.
Big Finish are currently producing new audio drama's for this show, so it would seem to be having a bit of a revival.

A curious beast - and a half forgotten 70's curio, this, but recommended.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 11 January, 2015, 06:17:32 pm
So only one episode of The Wire to go. So the question I ask you is do I watch it tonight after the kids are in bad, or save it and read my latest comics haul which I got from my LCS yesterday but only read a few of last evening as... well you guessed it... we watched The Wire...

... what to do what to do...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 11 January, 2015, 07:30:31 pm
Get it over with.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 11 January, 2015, 10:04:23 pm
Well I did and...

hit and miss I guess is the only way to describe it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 12 January, 2015, 08:44:41 am
Halfway through Season 2 of Breaking Bad. 

It continues to entertain but the tone veers wildly between episodes.  The grim "reality" of Jesse stuck with a poor child in a junkie's pad in PeekaBoo sort of sits with the black comedy of  Danny Trejo 's severed head on an exploding tortoise but then in comes unashamed light relief in the shape of Saul Goodman.  I'm sure this initial impression is wrong but it's still good stuff.


THE OFFICE (USA) - OK, shoot me. I'll admit to liking this more than the UK version. We only have the finale to watch and it continues to make me laugh out loud (the most important compliment that matters for a comedy) and has fantastic performances throughout. Sure it's sacharrine at times but it usually does it shouting through a loud hailer.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 12 January, 2015, 08:58:45 am
It continues to entertain but the tone veers wildly between episodes.  The grim "reality" of Jesse stuck with a poor child in a junkie's pad in PeekaBoo sort of sits with the black comedy of  Danny Trejo 's severed head on an exploding tortoise but then in comes unashamed light relief in the shape of Saul Goodman.  I'm sure this initial impression is wrong but it's still good stuff.

No, I think that's spot on.  The drastic changes in tone, and [NOT REALLY A SPOILER] the increasingly improbable twists, are what made it so enjoyable for me - had it played everything straight it would have been unbearable, as it is there is just enough fantasy and silliness added to the grim situations to make it obviously an entertainment (albeit a compelling one), rather than something to be endured.  I like some slapstick with my partially dissolved corpses.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 12 January, 2015, 09:51:25 am
Well there we go finally finished The Wire and have to say over all I loved it, brilliant stuff. Not sure if its quite up there with Breaking Bad and The Sopranos but damned close if not.

The end was a little disappointing, never has 1 and 1/2 hrs of telly dragged pasted so many possible endings and yet felt so rushed. It did its job, but in wrapping up so much seemed to compromise so much. Many of the individual character endings seemed a bit trite and simple and this was a case were I definitely think leaving somethings a little more open would have been a benefit. As it stands those little snap shots concluding the stories of everyone who survived the series, just too many. Some worked, some didn't and even if the ending for the character seemed appropriate and nice (I'm happy for Bubble) the actually shot was as cheesy as hell.

Aside from that the main story seemed to twist itself almost to breaking point to try top wrap things up. After a series that had felt so grounded this was such a shame and too much stuff was doubtful, or slightly out of character to enable them to get to the end of the story. I dread the idea of watching it again as under the closer scrutiny of a second viewing I don't think it will hold up. My wife plans to do just that tonight, I will steadfastly be ignoring the telly so my threadbare ability to accept the way it wrapped up remains intact!

I guess that's the price you pay for weaving such a rich tapestry.

Still when viewed as whole an absolute triumph of a series. There's a bit of me still thinks Season 2 was the best?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 12 January, 2015, 12:23:03 pm
I hear what you're saying, but they're damned if they do, damned if they don't - the makes of the Sopranos were pilloried for their ending because it just stopped without resolving any of the hanging plots. The writer said this was to emphasis that it wasn't a single story they were telling but a "soap opera" of life in a gangster family, and this life goes on after the series ends.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 12 January, 2015, 12:47:57 pm
I hear what you're saying, but they're damned if they do, damned if they don't - the makes of the Sopranos were pilloried for their ending because it just stopped without resolving any of the hanging plots. The writer said this was to emphasis that it wasn't a single story they were telling but a "soap opera" of life in a gangster family, and this life goes on after the series ends.

Yeah but I loved the ending to The Sopranos - which might explain my views here!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 12 January, 2015, 02:01:02 pm
me too!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 12 January, 2015, 04:35:34 pm
Twas alright. Nothing beats the ending of The Shield....
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 12 January, 2015, 05:02:09 pm
Quote
I hear what you're saying, but they're damned if they do, damned if they don't - the makes of the Sopranos were pilloried for their ending because it just stopped without resolving any of the hanging plots.

The fate of certain characters were left ambiguous, but I certainly felt it resolved everything to a satisfactory level.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 12 January, 2015, 06:15:08 pm
It continues to entertain but the tone veers wildly between episodes.  The grim "reality" of Jesse stuck with a poor child in a junkie's pad in PeekaBoo sort of sits with the black comedy of  Danny Trejo 's severed head on an exploding tortoise but then in comes unashamed light relief in the shape of Saul Goodman.  I'm sure this initial impression is wrong but it's still good stuff.
No, I think that's spot on.  The drastic changes in tone, and [NOT REALLY A SPOILER] the increasingly improbable twists, are what made it so enjoyable for me - had it played everything straight it would have been unbearable, as it is there is just enough fantasy and silliness added to the grim situations to make it obviously an entertainment (albeit a compelling one), rather than something to be endured.  I like some slapstick with my partially dissolved corpses.
Conversely, this was one of the things I found really hard to stomach about the series. I'm all for black humour used to undercut the more serious side of something, but I found the abrupt switches to broad comedy and the seeming inability to mix the different tones very jarring.

Then there's the ludicrous MacGyver stuff which initially comes out of desperation and entertaining, innovative ways to get things done but which gets stupider and stupider as it progresses and, again, does nothing but ruin the dramatic aspect of the programme.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 13 January, 2015, 08:54:16 am
So far, Saul looks like he belongs in another show entirely.  But then again, I am thankful for the break.

I suppose you don't bat an eyelid when an episodic TV show like Star Trek does a serious angsty epiosde followed by a comedy episode followed by a scary episode so why the difference here?

PS: Was very satisfied with the finale of The Office. All "i"s dotted and all "t"s crossed. Very clever doing the 1 year later jump as it meant that everything didn't feel crammed into a short time frame.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 13 January, 2015, 09:06:48 am
So far, Saul looks like he belongs in another show entirely.  But then again, I am thankful for the break.

I get what The Cosh is saying, but I'm not sure I'd have binge-watched the alternative series he describes.  I did struggle with the tonal flip-flops in the early seasons, coupled with the realisation that the plot was being made up on the fly, but once I was properly involved with Walt and Jesse I came to depend on these aspects as a release from the tension.  The silliness (as opposed to black humour) of S'all Good Man and the rest made Albuquerque into a fantasy setting, rather than an attempt at reality, and that allowed the character's journeys to be genuinely bleak, despite involving unlikely contraptions, magic drugs and feats of derring-do.  The core human stories remained dramatic, with the rest of the production providing the necessary laughs. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 13 January, 2015, 10:10:20 am
I've not thought this through properly so fully expect to be shot down in flames but what the heck, spouting nonsense has never stopped me before.

I sometimes struggle with people not liking changes in tone in a show and or comic etc. I get people wanting to set a tone and or mood for a piece of fiction as it provides stability and a more comfortable or consistent viewing experience (or for that matter consistently uncomfortable depending on the tone set!). That is however not to say its realistic. My experience is life doesn't have a tone or consistent mood. It flip flaps, you can be in the most miserable circumstance and still met 'characters' that have a completely different mind set or situations that force a different mood in the same conditions. I engage with different situations and moods, or tones, all the time within the same mundane working day. To me having this curious lack of consistency is refreshing like real life.

In particular it works in Breaking Bad which is very much a show about a man moving between different worlds and the tensions that creates. There is no better shift in tone that the move between Walter White and Heisenberg. Often this very shift, or more accurately the man caught half way between the being the two people is the source of some of the best humor and tension in the show.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Fungus on 13 January, 2015, 11:37:33 am
BB remains the only show I've ever 'binged' on, and I just know that I wouldn't have been able to wade through many hours of tense - at times very grim - drama. Come to think of it, I doubt my disbelief would have been suspended for long if no-one ever cracked a joke. Better invoke Saul.

And Shakespeare punctured his tragedies with comedy, he knew what he was doing. The impact of both is heightened?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 19 January, 2015, 10:23:00 pm
Is there a record for the longest gap between a comment and a specific reply? Brought on by my Polish colleague and his fiancee having watched the first four series in 8 days...
I sometimes struggle with people not liking changes in tone in a show and or comic etc. I get people wanting to set a tone and or mood for a piece of fiction as it provides stability and a more comfortable or consistent viewing experience (or for that matter consistently uncomfortable depending on the tone set!).
I get what you're saying and, of course something like Judge Dredd or, more recently, Low Life is enjoyable and successful at least partly because it is able to move between different tones. However, within that framework, one story tends to stick to a particular  register.

I get what The Cosh is saying, but I'm not sure I'd have binge-watched the alternative series he describes.  ...The silliness (as opposed to black humour) of S'all Good Man and the rest made Albuquerque into a fantasy setting, rather than an attempt at reality, and that allowed the character's journeys to be genuinely bleak, despite involving unlikely contraptions, magic drugs and feats of derring-do.
I certainly hadn't thought of it in those terms.

You all make some good points and it's clear I'm in a small minority here and the problem must be me, not you or Walt. Interesting that a couple of you have said that you wouldn't have binged on my version of the show, as it wasn't something I could ever watch more than one or two of at a time. I'm just going to accept that it wasn't for me, write a last bit of guff here and try my best not to start whinging again the next time somebody mentions how great it is.

I'm not sure what the root of my antipathy is. Maybe the programme was sold to me on the basis of the dramatic elements so I was surprised by the other stuff. To use the example mentioned, I felt the dissolved bath was enough comic relief in itself. Adding the Last of the Summer Wine style house viewing panto was just overegging the pudding.

So far, Saul looks like he belongs in another show entirely.  But then again, I am thankful for the break.
For the record, Saul and his unabashed villainy amongst all the hand-wringing was one of the things I unequivocally liked.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 19 January, 2015, 10:26:55 pm
As for me, I've started watching Farscape, even though it's got muppets in. I think I've seen the first three series before but never made it to the end for some reason.

Half a dozen episodes in and it's starting to open up some of the backstories. However, I've been doing that kind of half-watching while you're doing something else and then you realise at the end of the episode that you've a vague idea of what happened but not the specifics.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 20 January, 2015, 08:23:26 am
Well its not an addiction yet but since it was lent to me by my boss our next endeavour is The West Wing. Watched the first episode and while it certainly had some nice moments all I can say is I do hope it gets better! After all the praise I've heard of it I suspect it will?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ming on 20 January, 2015, 09:04:46 am
Well its not an addiction yet but since it was lent to me by my boss our next endeavour is The West Wing. Watched the first episode and while it certainly had some nice moments all I can say is I do hope it gets better! After all the praise I've heard of it I suspect it will?

I always get that confused with Veep.  Which I love.

We just watched The Worricker Trilogy (Page Eight, Turks & Caicos, Salting the Battlefield).  The second installment felt a bit forced but overall this was really enjoyable and seeing Bill Nighy in a main role was something of a revelation.  Worth looking out for.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 20 January, 2015, 11:01:56 pm
The man in the high castle.

On lovefilm/amazon prime instant video as one of seven pilots for shows that you can vote to be made.

I have no idea if it's a good adaption of Philip K Dick's "What if the nazis won the war?" tale but it was rather good even if I can't see them doing a light relief episode.

Watch it and vote so I can get addicted.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 21 January, 2015, 01:11:32 pm
In between my Last Airbender foray I've been rewatching some IT Crowd and I had completely forgoten just how funny it is.

"Ha! Well prepare to put mustard on those words as you eat them, with a side order of humble pie, baked in this oven of shame, set at gas mark egg on your face!"
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 22 January, 2015, 09:05:19 pm
IT'S ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA.
Tiny Tips has started watching this. Despite some good laughs in the first few episodes,  I don't think that I will be sticking with it. The performances are good but everybody, EVERYBODY  is a complete arsehole. There's a mean streak running through it as well (same as Family Guy). Not for me.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Zenith 666 on 22 January, 2015, 09:36:41 pm
Seen six seasons and while it has some gold moments that mean streak just gets worse so you'll get no enjoyment from it Tips.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 23 January, 2015, 01:10:13 pm
Toast of London

Has its moments, though a pale imitation of Darkplace/Boosh/etc. Mind you just thinking about some of the Mighty Boosh moments makes me snigger.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 30 January, 2015, 09:02:28 am
I'm in the middle of BUffy season 5 on my rewatch. While there is stuff I didn't like: Riley should have died at the end of season 4, because there's nothing for him to do here and his leaving was too contrived.

BUT:

The latest episode was The Body. Man that is some powerful and moving television.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 30 January, 2015, 09:19:09 am
The latest episode was The Body. Man that is some powerful and moving television.

We've paused our Buffy re-watch at the end of Season 5 to watch a chunk of the Angel box set, but the Great Buffy Re-watch has fairly conclusively proved to me that the "It's All Downhill After Season 3" crowd are just plain wrong.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 30 January, 2015, 09:42:05 am
The latest episode was The Body. Man that is some powerful and moving television.

We've paused our Buffy re-watch at the end of Season 5 to watch a chunk of the Angel box set, but the Great Buffy Re-watch has fairly conclusively proved to me that the "It's All Downhill After Season 3" crowd are just plain wrong.

Cheers

Jim

Yup. Apart from the spoilered complaint, it's been great. Glory is a proper scary threat, and they do an excellent job of giving everyone something to do (which is harder than you think when writing team based storylines).
I'm thinking of chasing down some Angel myself...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 30 January, 2015, 09:53:15 am
Loved Buffy so better rewatch it on Netflix and loved Angel much better, so dark.

Like how they changed Wesley from geek into badass.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 05 February, 2015, 03:28:14 pm
All 5 seasons of Community just in Netflix, hadn't seen it yet, and some of you rating it good.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Satanist on 05 February, 2015, 04:14:36 pm
All 5 seasons of Community just in Netflix, hadn't seen it yet, and some of you rating it good.

Watch first 3 series, forget the rest.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 05 February, 2015, 05:01:44 pm
The latest episode was The Body. Man that is some powerful and moving television.

Staggering piece of work. They do things in that episode that I've never seen done anywhere else, and even thinking about it chills my blood.  Never was disposable teen entertainment so utterly real.

Meanwhile, having finally completed Angel Season 3,, we resumed the Buffy rewatch at Season 7, which I don't have particularly fond memories of. Wrong again - it's absolutely brilliant, we wolfed down 8 episodes in 4 nights. What a show, such clever balancing of the cast as we hurtle towards the end.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 05 February, 2015, 05:37:11 pm
It's interesting to note that critical reaction towards Buffy cooled when she couldn't afford college and had to get a shitty job and didn't have any plan what to do with the rest of her life - in other words when the show became a reflection of the young adulthood of the vast majority of its audience rather than the young adulthood of its professional critics.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 05 February, 2015, 05:39:06 pm
I sometimes wonder if the major problem with Buffy's later seasons is that after the Mayor, no bad guy really shines. Adam, Glory, the First - they're all meh (though I love Glory being a god and bitchy her little coterie of monks and the whole Ben thing stumbled for me) and the Trio are comic relief really, good comic relief but not like the Master, Angelus or the wonder that was The Mayor.

Well that and Spike-romance.

 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 05 February, 2015, 05:42:36 pm
I sometimes wonder if the major problem with Buffy's later seasons is that after the Mayor, no bad guy really shines. Adam, Glory, the First - they're all meh (though I love Glory being a god and bitchy her little coterie of monks and the whole Ben thing stumbled for me) and the Trio are comic relief really, good comic relief but not like the Master, Angelus or the wonder that was The Mayor.

Well that and Spike-romance.

Yeah, the 'need' for a Big Bad is something that these shows (and I'm pretty sure Buffy started it!) suffer from. But I disagree about Glory - having just finished that season, she's totally great. It was nice to have a villain that Buffy genuinely couldn't beat by just hitting her hard, until they figured out a way she could beat her by hitting her hard, that is...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 05 February, 2015, 06:57:32 pm
t was nice to have a villain that Buffy genuinely couldn't beat by just hitting her hard, until they figured out a way she could beat her by hitting her hard, that is...

Don't knock it, Richmond - Mark Millar has made a career out of that plot.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 05 February, 2015, 07:27:08 pm
...the Trio are comic relief really...

But the Trio aren't the Big Bad of Season 6 - they're just a brilliant piece of misdirection. More generally the real demons post-Glory are all personal ones, and no harm there.

But yeah, the Mayor (and Faith) was an impossible act to follow. The First (and Caleb) are pretty damn scary, but much like Glory's obsequious minions, the silly ur-vampires undermine the thing a tad.

It's ridiculous how much we've enjoyed rewatching Buffy (and Angel). Definitely got more out of it a dozen years later.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 12 February, 2015, 09:04:08 am
The man in the high castle.
...
Watch it and vote so I can get addicted.
I watched this for you last night. It was alright but all setup. I suppose that's the point of a pilot.

It's been ages since I read the book so I can't comment on how good an adaptation it is either. I guess they have a ready-made twist for the start of series 2 or 3: a bunch of Germans wake up to find the Allies have won the war.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 12 February, 2015, 12:19:33 pm
FARGO.

I missed this when it was on Channel 4 last year but it popped up on Netflix.  I thoroughly enjoyed it -some quality visual story telling going on (compare the amount of dialogue in this compared to something like your average episode of Silent Witness).

Really liked most of the performances - the only one that didn't quite work for me was Martin Freeman - except when he became an "alpha" - that brought him out of the performance we normally see from him.

Ultimately wasn't too keen on the whole digression into what happened to the money from the original movie. Almost felt like it should have been a standalone story.

Lorne Malvo (Billy Bob) was a great character.  I actually imagined him speaking some of his dialogue Joker style because more often than not, he seemed to be doing things for the lulz. And, with his brazen-ness, it looked like he almost WANTED to get caught.

Conicidentally, it's the third thing I've seen this week that has a "You are either butcher or cattle!" theme running through it; Walking Dead Season 5 start with the hunters and Jupiter Ascending.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Fungus on 12 February, 2015, 05:11:14 pm
FARGO.
the only one that didn't quite work for me was Martin Freeman

Yep, fine terrestrial telly and that bloke from The Office tended to disrupt his scenes. Does the same in Sherlock (whose stapler is still missing).
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 20 February, 2015, 05:43:49 pm
Tiny Tips has started watching ALIAS. (Probably more Jennifer Garner than is good for a fourteen/fifteen year old). So I've watched the odd episode with him and remembered how great the first couple of seasons are.

Funny to see that the van in the "Die Hard" episode belongs to McTiernan Refrigeration.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 21 February, 2015, 09:49:49 am
Three episodes in and Better Call Saul just keeps getting better.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 24 February, 2015, 10:06:24 am
On a Breaking Bad rewatch. Just watched the first episode of season 2 and amazingly, this is when Walt makes the ricin!This is, what, two seasons before we meet Lydia... man that's some forward planning...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ming on 24 February, 2015, 12:45:25 pm
Three episodes in and Better Call Saul just keeps getting better.

Right there with you on that one.  Just watched the third episode last night and it's excellent; familiar but distinct enough to stand firmly on its own two feet.

Pass the cucumber water, will you?

 :)


Also currently enjoying: Uncle.  Second season is a couple of episodes in and continues to tickle my funny bone.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 25 February, 2015, 10:12:43 pm
All 5 seasons of Community just in Netflix, hadn't seen it yet, and some of you rating it good.

Watch first 3 series, forget the rest. Skip season 4. Watch season 5.

Quote
On a Breaking Bad rewatch. Just watched the first episode of season 2 and amazingly, this is when Walt makes the ricin!This is, what, two seasons before we meet Lydia... man that's some forward planning...

I think even the writers would freely admit that it was more 'leaving a dangling plot thread hanging then resolving it on the fly' than forward planning.

I've watched a bit of Saul. It's OK, but nowhere near as addictive or gripping as Breaking Bad so far.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 26 February, 2015, 09:10:09 am
Quote
On a Breaking Bad rewatch. Just watched the first episode of season 2 and amazingly, this is when Walt makes the ricin!This is, what, two seasons before we meet Lydia... man that's some forward planning...

I think even the writers would freely admit that it was more 'leaving a dangling plot thread hanging then resolving it on the fly' than forward planning.


Watching the interviews on the DVDs I watched BB from I was very surprised, assuming all this was very intricately put together, that even the bit with the big gun at the start of season 5 was thrown in with no knowledge of exactly how it would be used/resolved. The final use of said being determined during the course of the filming as episodes were finally written.

Either way you look at things, be it incredible foresight, or very neat tidying up as seems more likely. they did it very very well!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Fungus on 26 February, 2015, 03:58:49 pm
Either way you look at things, be it incredible foresight, or very neat tidying up as seems more likely. they did it very very well!

Well yes, but the thing about the ricin and guns is, you can imagine everyone in BB coming to a sticky end. Factoring in some poison (for a chemist) and gun action while tying up a drug-based crime drama doesn't sound like a huge stretch, more a head-start when writing the finish? Pleasinlgy neat, but not Earth-shattering.

If a leprechaun riding a zebra had been through the car-wash in episode 5 season 2, winked at camera, then proven to be pivotal to the whole series, then, well, bravo. Spoiler: that didn't happen.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 27 February, 2015, 04:26:03 pm
Picked up on The Walking Dead.

I watched the first season some time back but because I was very familiar with the comics and I found the series relentlessly grim (during a low part of my life) I stopped.

All 5 seasons (so far) popped up on Sky on demand so I plunged back in and have found it brilliant. I had to watch all the seasons before they took it off by 1st of March.

It's still grim but by God it's wonderful. Just finished season 5 episode 8 when Beth gets killed by the cop Dawn at the hospital. Man, that almost made me cry! 6 foot 4 inch, 15 stone man nearly weeping at the television.

That's some good stuff right there in my opinion.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Magnetica on 28 February, 2015, 10:52:24 am
Just been watching Stargate SG1 seasons 9 and 10. It has taken me a number of years to do this since Channel 4 stopped showing it and as far as I know they never showed these final two seasons.

So did the show suffer when Mitchell replaced O'Neill? No not at all in my opinion.

I thought the concept of the Ori was great, but overall I think they could have made far more of it. I kept waiting for the big battle to come and it really never did (apart from a bit of a shoot out at the end of season 9 / start of season 10 with some Ori mother ships.)

Season 10 became really just a quest to find a technobabble way to beat the Ori. I was expecting the last few episodes to focus on the war with the Ori's followers (a bit like the final 6 episodes of DS9 focussed on the war with the Dominion - and even that suffered from big battle taking place off screen syndrome) but it just didn't happen.

Then it was wrapped up in the spin off movie The Ark of Truth which was again a quest to find a technobabble way to get the Ori's followers to stop believing which then had to re-introduce a previous foe (The Replicators) so that it could last the running time.

I'm not saying it was bad, just that it could have been so much better and was in my opinion a bit of a wasted opportunity.

As to SG1 overall - yes I liked it, but for me it was always secondary to Star Trek (especially TNG and DS9). It was remarkable consistent in quality  - always about 6-7 out of ten in my opinion*. For me it never hit the heights that Trek did (e.g. Q Who, Best of Both Worlds, Dominion war) but there was never a really terrible episode either.


* the fantastic episode "200" apart.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 28 February, 2015, 03:31:21 pm
Well its not an addiction yet but since it was lent to me by my boss our next endeavour is The West Wing. Watched the first episode and while it certainly had some nice moments all I can say is I do hope it gets better! After all the praise I've heard of it I suspect it will?

Quite egoistical to quote yourself but wanted to say having finished Season one, all 22 episodes it certainly does. At times its a bit cute, a little idealised (though it does try to balance this) and the music is God awful but its a bloomin' trimpuh and very funny at times. Beautifully drawn characters who always seem to be pulled back from being over earnst and too polished. Great stuff.

That cliffhanger though my gosh that would have been cruel in real time! Need to get hold of season 2 asap!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Magnetica on 28 February, 2015, 03:56:17 pm
Yes the West Wing was one of my favourites. Definitely worth persevering with in my opinion, even if at times I didn't necessarily follow all the political goings on.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 03 March, 2015, 04:06:18 pm
Caught up with the Walking Dead now after doing 3 and a half seasons in 3 weeks.

Sucks being on 1 episode a week now.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 03 March, 2015, 04:35:50 pm
Well, that's the Buffy rewatch finished after more than a year of high-quality fun.  The final season was a very different beast than I had remembered, with a lot more going on and Caleb and the Scythe and all that stuff tucked into just 4 episodes at the end (in my memory, that was at least half the season).  I felt the writing slumped badly in the penultimate two episodes, with a lot of dutiful pairings and sparkle-free speeches, but it rallied marvelously for the (somewhat rushed) finale.  There's a lot of stuff I still don't understand, such as why any of the Slayerette stuff was necessary if Spike was just going to zap the baddies anyway, how the ubervamps became vulnerable to ordinary folk with swords, what 'Joyce's' message to Dawn was actually about, why the First just apparently slunk off at the end, and why Kennedy doesn't appear to be on the getaway bus but Willow isn't fussed.  Maybe I'll have to watch it again!  That said, the completeness of the tale in the end was impressive: involving Faith so thoroughly, and using the full rogues' gallery of the Master, the Mayor, Adam, Glory etc. as the faces of the First made for a very satisfying last outing.

While I'll never forgive Whedon for needlessly killing Wash Anya, at least I knew it was coming and so savoured my time with her.  Why Emma Caulfield didn't go on to world-dominating stardom is a mystery to me, she's been just luminous in this since her first scene, frequently overshadowing the also-excellent SMG.

The thing that really clicked for me this time through was Buffy and Spike's relationship, which by the end seemed genuinely plausible and complex, and actually gave both characters a very welcome depth.

Onwards with the rest of Angel!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Link Prime on 03 March, 2015, 04:39:57 pm
Onwards with the rest of Angel!

With the unexpected (but not unwanted) return of Spike for season 5!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 03 March, 2015, 04:53:04 pm
Onwards with the rest of Angel!

With the unexpected (but not unwanted) return of Spike for season 5!

Don't remind me!  If ever a character's story was fully told by the time he went out on a blaze of glory, it was Spike's.  Still, now I've warmed to Angel in general maybe I won't mind his reappearance so much this time. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 05 March, 2015, 12:06:32 am
The thing that really clicked for me this time through was Buffy and Spike's relationship, which by the end seemed genuinely plausible and complex, and actually gave both characters a very welcome depth.
If the old insomnia's playing up you can try and track back through this thread for my changing thoughts on that. I didn't like it at all at first, but it gradually makes sense in parts although ultimate does seem partly about setting him up for the ultimate sacrifice. I was also surprised about the relatively small role of Caleb in it.

Despite a relatively weak last series and as much as I love The Wire and whatnot, there's never going to be a better series than Buffy, is there?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 05 March, 2015, 12:14:30 am
Any fans of Parks and Recreation?

The last season has been perfect, absolutely spot on.

I shall miss Ron Swanson.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 05 March, 2015, 12:47:37 am
If the old insomnia's playing up you can try and track back through this thread for my changing thoughts on that. I didn't like it at all at first, but it gradually makes sense in parts although ultimate does seem partly about setting him up for the ultimate sacrifice. I was also surprised about the relatively small role of Caleb in it.

Staying awake is tonight's issue - the crew I'm working with have been on nights for 6 months now (originally slated for 3-4 weeks) and they have understandably lost the will to live, and as a result sort of ineffectually fiddle with things in an unfocused effort to get fired, leaving me at a loose end for far too long in the wee hours. So I did go back and read The Cosh's Buffy comments. Most of which I agree with entirely. 

One thing that slightly bugged me was my failure to bond with the Slayerettes at all, Kennedy excepted. I was mainly interested in how soon each of them might die, even and maybe especially the lovely Felicia Day. A rare misstep from a series that handles ensemble so well.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Famous Mortimer on 05 March, 2015, 06:41:00 am
Any fans of Parks and Recreation?

The last season has been perfect, absolutely spot on.

I shall miss Ron Swanson.
I abandoned it somewhere during the previous season - my feeling was that the arcs for all the main characters had ended, in some cases long ago, so we were now just watching them all turn into lovely cuddly people, despite that not being why we found them funny in the first place. And the more she was on screen, the less funny Retta was; and Billy Eichner sucked too.

Bear in mind I've not watched this for ages, so I might be way off.

But most importantly, RIP writer/producer/occasional star Harris Wittels. One of the funniest people ever.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 05 March, 2015, 07:53:21 am
Parks and Rec creeps nearer the top of my to watch list with every growing day and the snippets I see around are genuinely hilarious. Generally I find sitcoms from the other side of the pond all to go-happy and ineffective at making me laugh. In recent years i've found both the US The Office and Brooklyn 99 to be utterly delightful and hope this beckons in a new era of comedy that is less US centric.

I wont touch Big Bang Theory or How I Met Your Mother with a barge pole though.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Famous Mortimer on 05 March, 2015, 09:35:19 am
As long as you ignore the last season of "How I Met Your Mother", and are prepared for some stretches where you hate one or more of the main characters, you'll probably have a good time with it. "The Big Bang Theory" I hated too, until it was on every day when I got home from work and I learned to love it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 06 March, 2015, 12:53:51 pm
I just never found it my cup of tea.

Though not television persay, 88Films have just launched a line for trashy Italian horror movies to be released on BD. Pretty excited to have nasties like Night Train Murders and Anthropopagus in HD. :lol:
Title: Re: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 06 March, 2015, 02:49:38 pm
Parks and Rec creeps nearer the top of my to watch list with every growing day and the snippets I see around are genuinely hilarious. Generally I find sitcoms from the other side of the pond all to go-happy and ineffective at making me laugh. In recent years i've found both the US The Office and Brooklyn 99 to be utterly delightful and hope this beckons in a new era of comedy that is less US centric.

I wont touch Big Bang Theory or How I Met Your Mother with a barge pole though.

Check out Community and Arrested Development for ground-breaking US comedy populated by misanthropic characters. Id also tentatively recommend seasons one and two of Modern Family - broad as hell and inoffensive but very well done, something you could watch with the whole family and not want to claw your own eyes out.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 06 March, 2015, 03:27:09 pm
I wont touch Big Bang Theory or How I Met Your Mother with a barge pole though.

I would avoid HIMYM. It shows promise early on and the supporting cast are OK, but you soon realise that Ted Mosby is a terrible, awful human being who is impossible to root for. Quite possibly the worst character in the history of television. The perfect storm of crap writing and a terrible casting choice for the leading man.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Famous Mortimer on 06 March, 2015, 03:52:21 pm
I wont touch Big Bang Theory or How I Met Your Mother with a barge pole though.

I would avoid HIMYM. It shows promise early on and the supporting cast are OK, but you soon realise that Ted Mosby is a terrible, awful human being who is impossible to root for. Quite possibly the worst character in the history of television. The perfect storm of crap writing and a terrible casting choice for the leading man.
I'll give you worst leading man - there's whatsername on "True Blood" for genuine worst TV character of all time.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 06 March, 2015, 06:35:41 pm
I really can't stand to watch The Big Bang Theory for more than 30 seconds - I find it gratingly, desperately unfunny and think it's take on 'geek culture' (if there is such a thing) is very trite and inauthentic. Not offensive or anything, just weirdly antiquated - like nerd culture viewed through the eyes of an out of touch TV executive who thinks 'nerd' = 'brainy scientist'.

Horses for courses though - I like the early seasons of Friends and I can totally understand why someone might find that show every bit as contrived and banal as I find BBT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKS3MGriZcs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKS3MGriZcs)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 06 March, 2015, 06:42:22 pm
Instead of just saying "every single character on Suits is the worst character on tv", I'll raise you Sela Ward's eternally shot in soft-focus character on the latter seasons of CSI New York.  She was introduced smiling while standing over a violently murdered child and things go downhill from there - at one point she solves a mystery by refusing to believe that one human being would help another.
Tim Allen's character from Last Man Standing is pretty repugnant, too, thanks to his constantly attacking straw man liberal arguments and announcing that his middle eastern neighbors shouldn't have security cameras to protect themselves from attacks because it's them who do the attacking.  Initially, his character wasn't quite so bad, but at some point he started being portrayed as always being right in his prejudices, with the first major warning sign for me coming when one of his daughters complained about being "beaten up by liberal kids at school" because her mum was employed by an oil company and oil companies do fracking, which was 100 percent safe, naturally.  All that Galaxy Quest goodwill is really starting to run out.
Title: Re: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 06 March, 2015, 07:19:55 pm

Check out Community and Arrested Development for ground-breaking US comedy populated by misanthropic characters. Id also tentatively recommend seasons one and two of Modern Family - broad as hell and inoffensive but very well done, something you could watch with the whole family and not want to claw your own eyes out.

I second all of these.  Arrested Development possibly the one I liked least (especially the born again episodes) but they all have really good stuff in them. And Season 4(?) of Community has entirely laugh free episodes (the Germans). Only ever saw those first two of Modern Family and much as I loved the characters, the warnings about later seasons have put me off.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 06 March, 2015, 08:16:20 pm
Season 4 of Community is unwatchable. Even as a completist I refuse to tarnish my DVD shelf with it.

The problem for me with ModFam is that the first two seasons felt like they had a ring of truth about them - the plots of each episode are largely based on stories the writers would share about their own families and it shows. But after season 2 they seemed to run out of stories so reverted back to very contrived sit-commy premises and cheap stunts. Previously-lovable characters also devolve into irritating caricatures alarmingly quickly, especially Claire, Cameron and Gloria. Perhaps it's a bit harsh, but imo most of the kid actors seem to get simultaneously weaker at acting and less charming as they age too. Post season 2 it has it's moments, (mostly involving Ty Burrell) but I can largely take it or leave it and would rather just rewatch the older episodes.

Give it a go though, you might enjoy it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 06 March, 2015, 08:17:51 pm
Ty is excellent. Took me ages to recognise him as Asshole Steve from Dawn of the (sprinting) Dead.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 06 March, 2015, 08:20:39 pm
He's a fantastic comic actor. Also similarly distracting playing serious in the 2008 Incredible Hulk movie.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 06 March, 2015, 08:57:53 pm
Onwards with the rest of Angel!

With the unexpected (but not unwanted) return of Spike for season 5!

Don't remind me!  If ever a character's story was fully told by the time he went out on a blaze of glory, it was Spike's.  Still, now I've warmed to Angel in general maybe I won't mind his reappearance so much this time.

astronauts  or cavemen?  Smile Time!

spike earned his resurrection
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 06 March, 2015, 10:25:45 pm
astronauts  or cavemen?  Smile Time!

spike earned his resurrection

Never seen any of that. Looking forward to it, although now Better Call Saul has me in its claws.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 12 March, 2015, 04:40:11 pm
Finally got round to starting on Parks & Recreation on Netflix, which is exactly as good as I knew it would be. Really lovely show - sweet without being saccharine, and very funny too. I'd heard from several people that season 1 wasn't very good and to skip ahead, but s1 was enjoyable enough. The only character I don't like is Mark, though I gather that he leaves quite early on and didn't even return for the finale, so I think it's safe to say I'm not alone on that.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mardroid on 12 March, 2015, 09:23:25 pm
Bates' Motel Series 2

I'm not sure I'd say this is an addiction, but it's rather enjoyable. The actors playing the main roles are all rather good in their depiction of these extremely flawed yet empathetic characters.

I was thinking of dropping Netflix. It's a good deal but I just wasn't watching it much! Then this came along. I liked the last one and this seems as good, so far.

I wish they'd get a move on bringing across the latest American Horror Story though. Still Daredevil will be here soon...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 12 March, 2015, 10:10:42 pm
The Borgias.  The only real question, a few episodes into Season 2, is why I am still bothering.  Pitiful smell-the-fart acting, comedy casting (Ser Jorah Mormont as Savonarola?), and a rigorous formula of 1 Graphic Torture/Execution per episode + 2 Scenes (minimum) of boobs and bum per episode +1 floppy willy every 2 episodes + 1 fanny per 4 episodes (yes, I counted - had to pass the time somehow). 

The combo of European actors who struggle (but not very hard) with English lines and American actors who speak only in protracted monotones only adds to the (intentional) torture, and the staggeringly bad visual continuity between shots takes away what considerable pleasure can be derived from the costumes, sets, locations and digital backdrops.  And I would be very happy if the exposition could be elevated from people continually describing everything as if their listener was from, say, another century:  "How goes the war with our enemies the French?", or "It is a letter from His Holiness Alexander VI, the current Pope", and so forth (I exaggerate, but not much).

The best bit is the most innovative 'Previously on...' sequence, which maps 'current' events onto some religious festival or theme.  So, an Italian voice intones something like: "Easter 1492: Christ is Risen [clip of Rodrigo Borgia being elected Pope]".  It's actually what keeps me zipping on to the next episode, just to see what they've come up with this week.

But yet, I keep watching.  And for all of the above reasons. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 12 March, 2015, 10:19:03 pm
And of course I stuff it up by getting the name wrong: it's Borgia I'm watching, not Jeremy Irons vehicle The Borgias.  And before anyone accuses me of being snitty about the historical accuracy or lack thereof, I don't care about that stuff at all, which in this case is a very good thing.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 12 March, 2015, 11:25:43 pm
If you don't care about that sort of thing, give DaVinci's Demons a go.  Sometimes it's hard to tell if it's serious or taking the piss and there's a bit in America that seems to go on forever, but generally it's good fun and very well made.  I'm not sure if my favorite bit is the Pope's evil double snapping children's necks while laughing in her dad and sister's face, beating his henchmen while naked, or that time DaVinci's gang fight Islamophobic Dracula.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 13 March, 2015, 12:18:29 am
That does sound fun, I've been meaning to track it down, if only to pay respect to our own Michaelvk. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 13 March, 2015, 12:21:06 pm
A couple of episodes behind in the current series of Deadwood with Pirates (aka Black Sails) but thoroughly enjoying it. Season 1 was waaay to leisurely in its pacing and really only gets anywhere near interesting around Ep4/5 but starts to promise greatness in the back half of the series.

Season 2, however, has kept a much tighter focus on Toby Stephens' compelling and utterly ruthless Flint, nominally the 'hero' only because everyone else is an even bigger shit than he is, much to the series' benefit and I'm enjoying it enormously.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 13 March, 2015, 01:20:02 pm
A couple of episodes behind in the current series of Deadwood with Pirates (aka Black Sails) but thoroughly enjoying it.


Living, it would seem, in a box these days and have never heard of this. I should have heard of this as I loves me me pirates. Thanks for the heads up another in the all too long list of things I must get around to.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 13 March, 2015, 01:32:08 pm
A couple of episodes behind in the current series of Deadwood with Pirates (aka Black Sails) but thoroughly enjoying it.


Living, it would seem, in a box these days and have never heard of this. I should have heard of this as I loves me me pirates. Thanks for the heads up another in the all too long list of things I must get around to.

I was just about to say the same thing.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 13 March, 2015, 01:52:03 pm
Is it a LOVEFILM only type deal?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 13 March, 2015, 02:03:10 pm
Is it a LOVEFILM only type deal?

Free to stream on Amazon Prime…

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 13 March, 2015, 02:18:47 pm
Is it a LOVEFILM only type deal?

Free to stream on Amazon Prime…

Cheers

Jim
Yoinks!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Famous Mortimer on 13 March, 2015, 04:43:58 pm
I tried the first three episodes of "Black Sails" and despite having read several books about the era beforehand ("Villains of All Nations" is amazing), it bored me to tears. It tried too hard, I think. But I might dip back in.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 14 March, 2015, 11:06:14 pm
At long last Now TV has updated with Game of Thrones seasons 2 through 4. If I should vanish over the next few weeks, theirs tour explanation. I've died of joy.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 16 March, 2015, 06:38:29 pm
Just finished the first two series of 'Hannibal' - not sure if I'm interested in watching the third. There were some nice touches (like the 'demonic' manifestation of Hannibal); Mads Mikkelsen is properly good and Gillian Anderson just gets sexier every day but it got sillier and sillier as the story progressed. Hannibal puts so much time into his 'work' it beggars belief. The guy fastened to the tree in the car park - I mean, come on; Hannibal wouldd have needed a week, a truck and a JCB to set that up for a start. Still, enjoyable enough in a 'this is impossible but diverting' kind of way.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 17 March, 2015, 04:36:27 pm
We've been watching The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt - the new Netflix-produced comedy series created by Tina Fey.

It's a light and breezy sitcom about a woman who has spent half her life underground in an Apocalypse cult bunker trying to make her way in New York City following her liberation, and if that sounds like a lot to take in, it's all covered - and all the main characters are introduced - in the first five minutes of episode one(!).

While it's unlikely to trouble my list of all time favourite sitcoms it's really good stuff - the writing is clever, the pace is ludicrously fast, the tone endearingly bonkers and the lead, Ellie Kemper, is absolutely adorable. The theme tune, which riffs on Autotune the News - is an insanely catchy instant classic.

Strong recommend.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 17 March, 2015, 06:24:36 pm
Yeah, I've watched the first few episodes of Kimmy Schmidt too. I didn't think I'd like it but turns out I do - Carol Kane (from Scrooged) in particular is good fun. I find myself losing interest as it meanders through overfamiliar  'making it in NYC' territory, but then we get some more of the bunker flashbacks and I'm on board again. It 'goodhearted oddball' pitch reminds me a lot of Elf, which is no bad thing.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 17 March, 2015, 06:26:59 pm
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Carol Kane (from Scrooged)

Ah! Thought it was her, but assumed it wasn't as she barely looks any different to how she did in a film from 30-odd years ago...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 17 March, 2015, 09:02:23 pm
I've only seen the first episode so far but yeah I'm inclined to agree with both of you on this - pleasant but not outstanding, a premise and a cast strong enough to demand attention.

I also recommend the slightly more goofball Last Man on Earth from the minds behind Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs, The Lego Movie etc which falls into the 'quirky but heartwarming' category.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 17 March, 2015, 09:04:43 pm
Yes, LMoE is definitely on my radar, will definitely be checking it out.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 19 March, 2015, 11:09:59 pm
Tiny Tips decided to start watching Alias. We got stuck about half way through Season 2 so it has been good fun catching up. It packs more into one episode than you get in most movies.

Tiny Tips thought that a good mark of the writing and characterisation was that he would quite happikly watch a spin off show of at least three of the supporting cast; an eighties set Young Jack Bristow super spy show; a Marshall Makes It gadget fest and a Will Tipping investigates.

Me, I was just wondering if there was a single more attractive woman on the planet (MMrs Tips aside) than Jennifer Garner and then Lena Olin turns up. Obligatory comic fan sexism aside, both are brilliant.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 24 March, 2015, 08:13:16 am
The Bridge Season 1, on Netflix. So silly, so stylish, so much fun. The contrast between Kim Bodnia's completely believable Martin Rohde and Sofia Helin's completely unbelievable Commander Data Saga Noren is just a joy to watch. In fact the casting is the real star here - almost everyone on the screen is distinctive, memorable, and interesting, from junkies to receptionists. I also get the amusing feeling that there are huge jokes about respective pronunciation flying over my head, but I enjoy the characters' reactions to same, and all it does is enhance the feeling of observing a specific complex unfamiliar world, or maybe two.

It's all a bit broad, they do like to bash you over the head with the bleedin' obvious until you scream mercy, and I'm a bit disappointed that it isn't a finite story (a third series is in production), but it most definitely fills the aching gap between episodes of Better Call Saul.

Incidentally the gorgeous Sofia Helin was 39 when she made this. I must not be living right, she'd pass for my daughter, although very fortunately she isn't.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 24 March, 2015, 08:46:01 am
My wife really got into her Scandicrime and adored The Bridge. I think in her pantheon its ranks even higher than The Killing.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Fungus on 24 March, 2015, 08:56:00 am
The Bridge is certainly my favourite Scandi show, followed by Borgen, then The Killling (which I dropped then forced myself to complete on iPlayer, so plodding and stretchy did the plot become. Gave up on series 2 early on). There's a lot of fun in The Bridge and very glad more is on the way.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 24 March, 2015, 12:49:24 pm
Ah, but season 2 of The Killing is the best of the three! Nicholas Bro really adds a lot to it - proving that (apologies in advance) YOU CAN DO IT IF YOU THOMAS BUCH IT!

Totally agree that the first arc was over-long. It got to a point where every time the finger of suspicion pointed directly at somebody, you knew it couldn't possibly be that simple, just because they overused the red herrings and rug pulls.

That said, and while season 3 actually regresses to that a little, I did find the whole shebang very entertaining. It's well acted and really atmospheric throughout. I can see myself digging it out again soon for a re-watch.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 24 March, 2015, 01:00:32 pm
Hmm... maybe I'l return to The Killing and give it the benefit of the doubt, then. I only watched the first series and ended up pretty peed off with it for all the reasons given. There were some really good bits but the constant one-step-forward-two-steps-back nature of the series had undermined an awful lot of my goodwill by the (eventual) end.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hoagy on 24 March, 2015, 07:46:14 pm
So glad you are all talking The Killing! I am investing important time into the American version. The first " Killing takes two seasons to uncover the murderer and as with above posters it is trudging and lumbersome but it the end I found it holds in the memory well. I could tap dance around it and it was still ploughing on through a certain thread when I returned to give it my full attention. I did enjoy all the torturous events in it's plots and the endurance of the characters. And when my attention was better spent elsewhere I let them drift off as I did doing our own thing to return again in the moments of jump on crisis points. (Saul Goodman. Sorry.) It's all good man(, I mean).

Now on the final episode of the 3rd series and this season could be the Aliens to Alien it goes that mental, with all sorts of plots bursts and arcs both comfortable revisitations to tried and tested street urchin villainy, with only the police top brass being the impediment in the mix this time; rather than the Wire-like wider spread infractions embellishing the story from the first story arc.

Stiff and clogged in some places, it still has me hooked.

Better Call Saul? Now that's some damn fine tv.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 24 March, 2015, 11:38:04 pm
Never seen the US version fo the show. I gather it departs pretty dramatically from the Scandinavian one.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hoagy on 25 March, 2015, 12:30:01 am
From what I slept through of the Scandinavian one and woke up to, it does.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 28 March, 2015, 07:53:30 am
Last night we decided to give the first episode of 'The Last Ship' a go. Has anyone else seen this?  And can anyone reassure me that it's not as straight -up obvious as it seems and that there are some twists to stop it becoming the most predictable formulaic show US TV has put out since the eighties?

It's beautiful to look at,  apparently very expensive, and the first ep rattled along at a good old pace...  but my grud,  it was by the book! 

Mysterious us navy mission to the arctic is cover for some scientists trying to find a cure for a virus that is spreading across the world.  By the time they are allowed to break radio silence,  80% of the world's population is dead and the ship must find fuel and supplies while developing a cure and outwitting the Russians. Manly man captain,  manly man second in command, lesbian bridge officer,  spunky Brit scientist and her untrustworthy Brit assistant (who is most likely a double agent)- sheeeesh.

Fun though.

SBT
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: DaveGYNWA on 28 March, 2015, 08:53:07 am
Last night we decided to give the first episode of 'The Last Ship' a go. Has anyone else seen this?  And can anyone reassure me that it's not as straight -up obvious as it seems and that there are some twists to stop it becoming the most predictable formulaic show US TV has put out since the eighties?

It's beautiful to look at,  apparently very expensive, and the first ep rattled along at a good old pace...  but my grud,  it was by the book! 

Mysterious us navy mission to the arctic is cover for some scientists trying to find a cure for a virus that is spreading across the world.  By the time they are allowed to break radio silence,  80% of the world's population is dead and the ship must find fuel and supplies while developing a cure and outwitting the Russians. Manly man captain,  manly man second in command, lesbian bridge officer,  spunky Brit scientist and her untrustworthy Brit assistant (who is most likely a double agent)- sheeeesh.

Fun though.

SBT

Without giving much away, you've guessed a few things right. I'll be honest and say I gave up on it after the second episode because my cheese intolerance kicked in - but then once the series was finished its run I decided to binge watch from the start again and it actually does kick in a few episodes later. It's still got the cheese, but there is some action later on that allows you to overcome that.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tjm86 on 28 March, 2015, 09:32:50 am
Last night we decided to give the first episode of 'The Last Ship' a go. Has anyone else seen this?  And can anyone reassure me that it's not as straight -up obvious as it seems and that there are some twists to stop it becoming the most predictable formulaic show US TV has put out since the eighties?

It's beautiful to look at,  apparently very expensive, and the first ep rattled along at a good old pace...  but my grud,  it was by the book! 

Mysterious us navy mission to the arctic is cover for some scientists trying to find a cure for a virus that is spreading across the world.  By the time they are allowed to break radio silence,  80% of the world's population is dead and the ship must find fuel and supplies while developing a cure and outwitting the Russians. Manly man captain,  manly man second in command, lesbian bridge officer,  spunky Brit scientist and her untrustworthy Brit assistant (who is most likely a double agent)- sheeeesh.

Fun though.

SBT

Without giving much away, you've guessed a few things right. I'll be honest and say I gave up on it after the second episode because my cheese intolerance kicked in - but then once the series was finished its run I decided to binge watch from the start again and it actually does kick in a few episodes later. It's still got the cheese, but there is some action later on that allows you to overcome that.

I'd second that.   I managed the full season which is more than I could say for some of the stuff that has been about lately.  Not worth paying for, but reasonable brain candy.  Surprisingly enough it looks like it might get a second season.  I'm tempted to give the book a look.  Looks like it's in the same vein as The Gold Crew or Trinity's Child.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 28 March, 2015, 11:15:54 am
Thanks guys,  I think we'll continue with it then.  Though I reckon it may well become the very definition of "guilty pleasure"!

SBT
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 02 April, 2015, 04:32:42 pm
Have I mentioned the fact that we started watching 3RD ROCK FROM THE SUN (on Netflix I think).

It's really funny (so far - only half way through Season 1). John Lithgow is just absolutely powering the show and grabbing laughs where none should exist. Inspired casting.

(We started showing it to Tiny Teen Tips just to show him what a baby Joseph Gordon Levitt looked like)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Daveycandlish on 02 April, 2015, 05:04:27 pm
Astonishingly, 3rd Rock never stops being funny all th e way through the six seasons. Most comedies fall off after a couple of years but it kept going strong before finishing with a definite end. Great stuff. You can catch it on Channel 4 at breakfast time too.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: von Boom on 02 April, 2015, 07:44:31 pm
3rd Rock is sheer brilliance. Lithgow is a very talented actor and deserves much more respect than he gets.

A few years ago there was a rumour that an adaptation of Isaac Asimov's The Caves of Steel was to be filmed. I truly thought that Lithgow and Levitt should be cast as R. Daneel Olivaw and Elijah Baley respectively (or the reverse for that matter) since they worked so well together.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 10 April, 2015, 08:36:13 am
Seeing as the manga has been on hiatus for a year and will probably be so for a while yet, I started watching the )apparently very faithful) 2011 adaptation of HunterXHunter. A half dozen episodes in and it's showing great promise.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 11 April, 2015, 09:26:02 pm
Not been watching Game of Thrones anywhere near fast enough as I would like. A heavy work load, dive related work, and education can be attributed to that meaning I VALUE MY SLEEP!

That being said, the cliffhanger to S.2 Ep.7 might just be one of the darkest, most mean spirited things i've ever seen. I was genuinely sickened physically at the site of....well, I shant spoil it. But damn, I hope Theon suffers horribly for what he has done. Oh so much rage for just one character you wouldn't believe.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 12 April, 2015, 08:48:46 am
But damn, I hope Theon suffers horribly for what he has done.

Guys... shall I tell him, or will you?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 April, 2015, 11:17:52 am
He won't be pointing percy at the porcelain any more. Can't get sky Atlantic so will have to wait till the DVD of series 5 appears.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 13 April, 2015, 11:36:49 pm
Oy OYOYOY! Nay spoiler, ta!

Anyway, S.2 episode 8 took a little a little of the bite out of Theons actions but then I realized, 'those where still two kids he burnt alive'. So yeah, I hope Boltons bastard son give's him a proper good hiding.

Also, fuck Geoffrey. He just an inbred arse hole, CERCI'S the really megalomaniac we need to be worrying about.
Title: Re: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 15 April, 2015, 07:32:51 pm
Said it in the other thread, but Theon - despite being a colossal screw-up, is one of my favourite characters in the whole series. He is Game of Throne's analogue for Gollum, and just as complex and interesting. Perfectly cast and played in the show wonderfully by Alfie Allen, who gives him a touch more dimension than he has on the page (usually the reverse is true and character nuances are lost due to the nature of adapting the book to TV).
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 15 April, 2015, 10:26:30 pm
Well S.2 EP.9 "Blackwater" might just be one of the best bit's of TV i've seen in the longest time. Bloody fantastic stuff!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 15 April, 2015, 11:24:22 pm
Oh man, you have no idea what's in store in seasons 3 and 4...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 16 April, 2015, 08:52:56 am
Oh man, you have no idea what's in store in seasons 3 and 4...

Heh... I was thinking the same thing...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 16 April, 2015, 01:59:23 pm
Must get back into GoT - I loved season 1, but drifted off a few episodes into season 2 as there didn't seem to be much happening and I lost track of the huge cast. Reckon I'll restart season 2 and plough through as I understand it picks up after a slowish start.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Daveycandlish on 18 April, 2015, 07:16:30 pm
Holy boxset!

Decided to treat myself to the collected series of 1960s Batman starring Adam West and Burt Ward

As cheesy and as brilliant as I remember it  :D
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Batman's Superior Cousin on 19 April, 2015, 03:06:10 pm
My current TV Programmes that I watch

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Better Call Saul
Daredevil
Doctor Who
Falling Skies (Season 5)
Game of Thrones
House of Cards
Star Wars Rebels
The Jinx: The Life & Deaths of Robert Durst
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JudgeOiNK! on 21 April, 2015, 10:46:48 pm
This is my current fix.  Just over 70 hours, currently about halfway through the third season (of four) and you know what?  I'm loving every minute of it!

(http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k389/TheOinkBlog/KR2000AD_zps2emswvsu.jpg)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 22 April, 2015, 07:25:47 am
This is my current fix.  Just over 70 hours, currently about halfway through the third season (of four) and you know what?  I'm loving every minute of it!

(http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k389/TheOinkBlog/KR2000AD_zps2emswvsu.jpg)

Beautiful....should be in the shape of a Tranzam (Is that the correct spelling for that old 80's Sports car?)

Right now, I have been watching this show I that's been around since late 2011. A teen soap called.....

Slide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slide_(TV_series))

Interesting.... because it has a good looking cast line up (just check out three of the female leads....

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRcfsK6u4OXApOOpp59VmmWS_uO0Q8cMhhcPUz6hTE2jnXyQkuW)

One of them looks like Xena, the other Rodsie Cotton the one with pink hair Judge Hershey.

And it's set in Brisbane, (A place I go to very often, being closest city to Ipswich!) and some times the Valley (Fortitude Valley!) and the very first episode (Not the actual first episode of the series, by my own guess!) I saw nearly two hours earlier was set at Gold Coast (By the looks!)

Bloody rich folk.....

It also has Ben Oxenbould who was  the character lead in  Fatty-Finn (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=fatty+finnn&rls=com.microsoft:en-AU:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7NCHC_en-GBAU631&gfe_rd=cr&ei=aDw3VbfFIMLu8weCjoHIAw&gws_rd=ssl)

A well known Aussie comic book icon.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 22 April, 2015, 12:02:08 pm
This is my current fix.  Just over 70 hours, currently about halfway through the third season (of four) and you know what?  I'm loving every minute of it!

(http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k389/TheOinkBlog/KR2000AD_zps2emswvsu.jpg)

The recent reboot series is a must-watch once you're done.*  I often couldn't believe some of the criticisms aimed at it, like people were expecting the new BSG from a show about a talking car driven by a fashion model who investigated surfing crimes, and who on one occasion fights an evil double of the talking car that is so evil it's a darker shade of black than the good car, and is also a transformer with gatling guns for hands and the voice of Optimus Prime and they STILL beat it by using Turbo Boost.

As long as you know what you're getting into, it's a hoot.



* Ignore Knight Rider 2000 and Team Knight Rider, they're bloody awful even by Knight Rider standards.  TKR especially manages to be awful even without having David Hasselhoff in it, that's how bad it is.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JudgeOiNK! on 22 April, 2015, 02:25:38 pm
The pilot movie for the sequel series in 2008 I really enjoyed, it set it all up really well and had loads of hidden references (Mike puts on a leather jacket on top of his red shirt just as he meets KITT for the first time, which is what The Hoff wore in his pilot etc), but for the series NBC gave it to Executive Producer Gary Scott Thompson, creator of the first Fast & the Furious, and you could tell.  I really didn't like it.

Loads of pointless extra characters (it's meant to be "one man can make a difference") and KITT was now a Transformer.  There were glimpses of hope towards the end after the awful KARR episode but by then it was too late.  Those final few they had the right dynamic between Michael and KITT but it'd already been cancelled I think.

Such a shame as it was so full of potential in the movie!  And Val Kilmer had great delivery with KITT's new dry sense of humour.

Yeah I completely agree about KR2000 and TKR.  KR2000 was okay in places but felt like fan-fiction rather than a sequel, and TKR had one good episode with Duke and The Beast out on their own which felt like the original series, but other than that it was terrible.

I actually liked Knightrider 2010.  You ever seen it?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 22 April, 2015, 07:36:55 pm
Sadly no, but a Google reveals it is Knight Rider in a post-apocalyptic setting (made in 1994, you say?), so yeah, I'll be having some of that.*

I know what you mean about the show shifting to a different dynamic after the KARR stuff cleared the decks of some of the extraneous characters**, but I liked the larger cast episodes, because they underlined that it was a deliberately silly show.  Try watching one of the earlier episodes, then watching an episode of the spectacularly awful CSI: Cyber - which has a near-identical cast of characters - and you'll see what I mean.





* It also sounds a bit like Highwayman.
** like Sydney Poitier(no, not that one)'s womanising surfing FBI agent who is introduced in quite the sleazy fashion and then promptly disappears behind a desk for ten episodes before being written out.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JudgeOiNK! on 22 April, 2015, 08:50:06 pm
The show runner came out and said audiences are more sophisticated and need a larger cast and won't settle for one man in a car, which is why he changed so much of the already-successful pilot.  Uh, yes they would, and that's what they wanted - one man and his car.  Such a shame as I think Justin Bruening was great as a new Michael Knight.

Before you watch KR 2010 just go in knowing it's NOT Michael and KITT and you should have a blast.  It's a completely new riff on the whole idea.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 22 April, 2015, 10:06:36 pm
To be entirely fair, TV hasn't really done shows carried on the back of a single actor for quite some time.  Apart from maybe Scott Caan in Hawaii Five-0.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JudgeOiNK! on 22 April, 2015, 10:26:55 pm
Now I do love H50 but I feel there's a good ensemble there.  Especially love the 'car'guments as they're called by the writers between Steve and Danno!  Did prefer it when it was the four main characters before all these additional ones they've added though, as much as I do love Grover in it.

The thing with KR was always that KITT felt like an actual character and so he was never on his own, story-wise if not actor-wise, but yeah the only other show I can think of in recent times that's gone season-to-season with basically the one main character (and support) would probably be 24.  But hey that worked!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 22 April, 2015, 11:08:55 pm
But McGarritt's girlfriend was such a great addition to the H50 cast!

Fair point about 24, but I think it only accidentally became all about Bauer when they'd eventually genocided the entire backing cast.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 23 April, 2015, 12:52:33 pm
Just finish the final episode of The 100 Season 2 on E4 last Tuesday, that was great season as glad I still watch it from Season 1; so many deaths! With tribes of Sky People, Grounders and Mount People! Brilliant!

Can't wait for Season 3 next year! You could watch Season 1 on Netflix.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mabs on 02 May, 2015, 11:38:10 am
Gomorrah Season 1: Absolutely bloody fantastic! The story is set in Naples, and concerns the notorious Comorro or mafia. We have a young foot soldier, Ciro has a dreams of becoming a boss, all the while playing a dangerous game. Genny the son of the mafia boss who seems afraid to follow in his fathers footsteps (his transformation is amazing). But the real tragedy is seeing how their criminal activities affects the whole community, from the poor to the very rich. There are moments of genuine shock, and twists. For example, the last episode with its closing scenes had me scraping my jaws off the ground. It's one of the best series finalé ever. If you're a fan of such shows as Breaking Bad, Sopranos et al, do not miss this series.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 02 May, 2015, 02:32:37 pm
Because I got nagged by my old man, I picked up the first season of Agents of Shield in Tescos for him.

Sat and watched the first half dozen of these and... nope. Not feeling it.

It seems to be at its best when the show is moving its ongoing story elements forward. But there's an alarming propensity for filler and by-the-numbers TV plotting going on here. The acting is pretty dreadful right across the board, Clark Gregg aside, and I'm left struggling to work out who the show is actually for.

I mean, on the one hand, the show has some really grating, juvenile presentation. The music is over-the-top, and the fight scenes are pretty hammy. On the other, we have a few mild sex references and - oh yeah, an episode with my personal number one turn off - eyeball related violence. That appears to actually be developing into a plot point, with Hydra agents having eye implants so it' an instant drop for me. I just can't watch a show that makes me want to literally physically throw up due to its content.

Really disappointing.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: auxlen on 02 May, 2015, 05:24:03 pm
Not so much an addiction but an 80s nostalgia trip. bought a load of 80s dvds.

Fall Guy: hasn't. aged well, but some laughs. my Mrs loved Lee majors and his truck but even she agreed it's not that good.

A team. Seasons 1-4 absolute heaven.

magnum PI: surprisingly good.

Chips: some good banter but again not so good.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 03 May, 2015, 10:48:40 pm
Just finished watching the Daredevil series and quite surprised not to see more chat about it anywhere.

Overall, I thought it was a pretty good stab at rehabilitating the character after a duff movie outing, but it's a real game of two halves. The first half dozen or so rattle along at a terrific pace and are a lot of fun but then we get five episodes of Matt sitting around picking his scabs while nobody talks to each other and hints are dropped of future plot strands. Which gets a bit wearing.

Some decent fight scenes for telly and I assume plenty references for the nerds: I'm no expert on Daredevil but I did smile when one of the first hoods he batters turned out to be Turk.

The biggest problem, for me, was Kingpin (not that anyone ever calls him that.) It's obviously a deliberate decision to play the villain in a different and distinctive manner so, on those terms, it's probably the best performance in the series. Unfortunately, I found it totally aggravating. I'm not sure I ever understood what his nefarious plan was either.

"This city needs me." "I am here to save my city."  Et cetera. Give it a rest lads and bring back Bullseye.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Famous Mortimer on 04 May, 2015, 05:24:54 pm
Because I got nagged by my old man, I picked up the first season of Agents of Shield in Tescos for him.

Sat and watched the first half dozen of these and... nope. Not feeling it.
I ditched it halfway through season 1 and haven't regretted it. There was the much-vaunted Thor tie-in episode, which had them...cleaning up after the events of the movie. Such a cheat.

Anyway, I've been watching

Highlander: The Series
I'm quite surprised at how much I'm enjoying this. It's not quite as formulaic as I remember from the first time round, Adrian Paul is a great leading man and it's vastly superior to (similar-ish vintage) Hercules and Xena, which were miserable slogs to get through, most of the time.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 04 May, 2015, 06:35:30 pm
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Give it a rest lads and bring back Bullseye.

Buttonman will be along with that photo shortly...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 04 May, 2015, 06:50:47 pm
Is Extant any good?

Downloaded the lot on Sky.

Also: 12 Monkeys is much, much, better than it has any right to be, and is the first TV programme since old school Who to even attempt to handle time travel properly. Which is does, and well.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 04 May, 2015, 07:03:53 pm
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Give it a rest lads and bring back Bullseye.
Buttonman will be along with that photo shortly...
ActuaLOL.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 04 May, 2015, 11:19:12 pm
Just finished watching the Daredevil series and quite surprised not to see more chat about it anywhere.

Overall, I thought it was a pretty good stab at rehabilitating the character after a duff movie outing, but it's a real game of two halves. The first half dozen or so rattle along at a terrific pace and are a lot of fun but then we get five episodes of Matt sitting around picking his scabs while nobody talks to each other and hints are dropped of future plot strands. Which gets a bit wearing.

Some decent fight scenes for telly and I assume plenty references for the nerds: I'm no expert on Daredevil but I did smile when one of the first hoods he batters turned out to be Turk.

The biggest problem, for me, was Kingpin (not that anyone ever calls him that.) It's obviously a deliberate decision to play the villain in a different and distinctive manner so, on those terms, it's probably the best performance in the series. Unfortunately, I found it totally aggravating. I'm not sure I ever understood what his nefarious plan was either.

"This city needs me." "I am here to save my city."  Et cetera. Give it a rest lads and bring back Bullseye.

Agree with this. While it was at first refreshing to see a hero who isn't back on his feet two minutes after been beaten to within an inch of his life, it actually meant fuck all happened for about four episodes.

I thought his final costume was too fussy and the climactic fight with Kingpin was anti.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 05 May, 2015, 03:55:00 am

I thought his final costume was too fussy...
 

Yeah, too many straps and rivets and bolts. Looked like something from a DC show. Nowhere near as cool as his Ninja Cowl and Matt Black Trakkies.

I think the series suffered from being released all at once. It was designed to be binged on. If you chose to ration it out, it suffered from a drop in pace, just before the last act, which was just a wee bit too neat. Interesting take on Kingpin.

I think the first half of the series stands out because it is quite possibly the best live action origin story ever. Through a series of flashbacks which culminate to Stick's appearance, I got to understand who Matt was and what he could do.

This show just had the same problem all Movie Origin Stories have: What do you do once you've established the hero? This show didn't have the budget to show a massive gas/lazer attack from the top of a skyscraper.

I think Foggy might be my favourite character in the MCU.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 05 May, 2015, 04:11:53 am

I think the series suffered from being released all at once...


Too slow for the edit:

If they had released this show 1 week at a time, the entire internet would be ablaze after the end of the  second episode.

The problem I found, was that it was difficult to talk about with work colleagues. some had binged it all, some had binged a large portion, but most had just watched snywhere between 2 and 6 episodes.

The "watercooler moments" were lost.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 05 May, 2015, 02:11:13 pm
Possibly because I watched this in pieces rather than at once with the last 2 episodes as one sitting but I enjoyed it and felt it was a fine ending, not reaching the heights of the series but with enough threads hanging and enough closed off to do justice. I like the costume too, more than the generic 'man in the mask' look. And Fisk fight was good enough for me.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 10 May, 2015, 04:20:57 am
W1A

This is like a British version of Community, except it's David Tennant in the role of Abed, making a documentary about his quirky friends, but instead of being set in in bizarre, surreal Community College, it's presented in the even weirder environs of the BBC.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 11 May, 2015, 06:30:27 pm
I've just discovered that my cable subscription entitles me to free use of that Simpsons World App/service - basically I can stream every single episode of The Simpsons, any time I want. Amazing.

So it looks like I'm about to embark on an epic binge-watch of the show's glory days (seasons 2-10). Despite having seen these episodes so many times, it occurs to me that I've probably never seen them either in decent quality, or uncut - ISTR, though I wasn't aware at the time, that the eps that used to run on terrestrial TV and Sky had a lot of the edgier material cut out of them for pre-watershed broadcast.

I'd also be interested to check out some of the more popular recent episodes. It seems like the hardcore fans say "Actually, it's got really good again" every time a new season airs. I don't believe them of course, but maybe it's time to put that to the test.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 11 May, 2015, 06:41:26 pm
I still watch the Simpsons, and if I'm being honest, while not actually dreadful, it's at best middling and inoffensive comedy with the odd good-to-great joke.  I think what would have helped it immensely at some point in the last 10 years was if it shifted focus from Homer's being an epic dumbass every week onto other characters like Marge or Lisa, much as the show did in its early years when it shifted focus away from weekly episodes about Bart being an asshole.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 11 May, 2015, 06:59:28 pm
I find it hard to believe The Simpsons ever got objectively bad - I'm sure the newer episodes have very funny bits and they seem to have a lot of fans that still love the show - but for me personally, I love those old episodes so much that I just find it very hard to watch the modern ones. I think certain fans have such an attachment to these characters as they were in their prime that here just seems to be something intrinsically wrong about, for instance, retconning the timeline so that Homer and Marge met in the 90s.

I also flinch a little when I see those desperate attempts the show occasionally makes to be relevant and down with the kids, like Lisa Simpson singing a Kesha song, a Family Guy crossover, the Simpsons doing the Harlem Shake, or a whole episode built around an extended Lady Gaga cameo. Feels like the kind of shameless populist bandwagon-jumping that the original show used to viciously rip the piss out of.

Those early seasons though - just wow. Some of the greatest comedy writing/performance ever. There's gags that still make me howl with laughter twenty years later, having heard them dozens of times.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 13 May, 2015, 05:37:37 pm
I have been watching a lot of Bleach lately.  Hadn't seen it before and I was enjoying it.  Unfortunately I am currently two thirds of the way through one of the animes filler arcs and those things are too often tiresome.  This one isn't as bad as the Naruto filler arcs, but it does drag.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 13 May, 2015, 06:41:19 pm
Naruto made me stop watching anime entirely.  I just couldn't face it anymore - luckily, Avatar: Legend of Korra.
You really should.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 13 May, 2015, 07:02:31 pm
Korra isn't anime. It's American property, produced by a Korean animation studio.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JamesC on 13 May, 2015, 07:09:42 pm
I've been watching loads and loads of Person of Interest lately.
I really like it because it strikes a good balance between 80s action shows like The A Team and MacGyver with their 'baddie of the week' structure and simple three act stories and more modern thriller TV shows with drawn out arcs.
It's easy watching, it's not confusing and all the characters are likeable for different reasons. Plus there are loads of cool action bits where baddies get a good pasting from Jim Caveziel
Definitely recommended and excellent as a teatime, undemanding alternative to the One Show and rubbishy soap operas.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 13 May, 2015, 07:43:25 pm
Korra isn't anime. It's American property, produced by a Korean animation studio.

So it's anime, then.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 13 May, 2015, 07:47:02 pm
Loved Person of Interest, very interesting to watch.

And Jim Caveziel does not kill bad men, just shoot lots of legs!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 May, 2015, 08:06:03 pm
Yeah, too many straps and rivets and bolts. Looked like something from a DC show. Nowhere near as cool as his Ninja Cowl and Matt Black Trakkies.

I think the series suffered from being released all at once. It was designed to be binged on. If you chose to ration it out, it suffered from a drop in pace, just before the last act, which was just a wee bit too neat. Interesting take on Kingpin.

I think the first half of the series stands out because it is quite possibly the best live action origin story ever. Through a series of flashbacks which culminate to Stick's appearance, I got to understand who Matt was and what he could do.

This show just had the same problem all Movie Origin Stories have: What do you do once you've established the hero? This show didn't have the budget to show a massive gas/lazer attack from the top of a skyscraper.

The binge is not an issue for me, it's more that it felt 3-4 hours too long, which can be an issue with shows intended for syndication that require at least 13 episodes per season.

I'd assumed that the fledgling profession side of Murdock & Co. would be used more to build different cases and an evidence picture against Kingpin as the season progressed, with the failure of that not working being the reason that pushes Murdock into going all Daredevil on him at the end, but they opted more for rambling secondary character moping instead to fill in the time which made some characters feel a little superfluous. Otherwise it's the best of Marvel TV and the best of Marvel villainy. It also handled the mystical elements really well for a "realistic" series - now all it needs is Spider-Man & Doctor Strange.

The red-suit didn't bother me.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 13 May, 2015, 08:16:51 pm
Naruto made me stop watching anime entirely.  I just couldn't face it anymore - luckily, Avatar: Legend of Korra.
You really should.

I just stopped watching the series because of the filler crud.  I went and read fan translations of the Manga and was very pleased I did.  I catch up every now and again and I still enjoy the story.

I have seen numerous anime since I gave up on the Naruto anime.  In the last year I have seen Elfen Leid, both Hellsings, the most recent Guyver and started watching a weird one called Fooly Cooly.

Never been enticed by Avatar.  I keep getting hassle to watch things like Cowboy Beebop and Kill la Kill.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 13 May, 2015, 09:11:39 pm
Kill La Kill reminds me of Excel Saga, in that it is enjoyable if you like anime characters screaming their genre awareness at each other for twenty minutes, but largely seems made for anime nerds.  Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex and Neon Genesis Evangelion - I'll go out on a limb and say you've been hassled to watch one or more of those, but personally, I found lighter-going shovelware like Gundam Seed and Samurai 7 more fun.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 13 May, 2015, 10:00:14 pm
Well GitS SAC is something I bought when the boxsets were first released.  I'm a massive GitS fan, although I have been very hesitant in watching the latest addition.

Neon Genesis Evangelion is one I don't actually get hassled about and have encountered more hate than love for.  I started watching it, but couldn't get into it at the time.  I think it may have been off the back of a Patlabor marathon (after I managed to find all the anime) and I was perhaps tired of more giant robot action.

Samurai Champloo is one I have had recommended, but once I'm done with Bleach my next anime series will probably be Cowboy Bebop.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 13 May, 2015, 10:02:11 pm
Korra isn't anime. It's American property, produced by a Korean animation studio.

So it's anime, then.
No.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 14 May, 2015, 12:09:45 am
It's American property, produced by a Korean animation studio.

See, you've just described Powerpuff Girls Z (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eznOQk3j3vo), Supernatural (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4tc8Do5wQA), Big O season 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnaQZgZaOkg), and many more.  Don't get hung up on labels.  If you do I will refer to it as Japanimation and I shan't stop doing so.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 14 May, 2015, 12:45:41 am
I actually agree with Hawkmonger.  Nevertheless I have come to terms with the alternative point of view and I can even understand where it is coming from.  Defining genres is pretty arbitrary and for me Anime is about more than style.  This comes from the reasons I love it.  I have enjoyed American cartoons (outsourced to Korea or not), but I like them for different reasons.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: M.I.K. on 14 May, 2015, 02:17:47 am
*Brings up the original series of Mysterious Cities of Gold, Dogtanian, and Around The World With Willy Fog, just to confuse matters...*


*...and Ulysses 31...*
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 14 May, 2015, 08:43:56 am
Big O season 2 is an interesting one, as the first run was met with mediocre reactions from the Japanese audience but was critically lauded by Western fans. And rightly so, it's a fucking amazing show. So naturally a second series aimed more towards the western fan base was a given and economy's had to be made, such as shifting the production team.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 14 May, 2015, 10:55:28 am
Cowboy Bebop will send you to Samurai Champloo and all will be well in the world.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 14 May, 2015, 11:54:50 am
Defining genres is pretty arbitrary

In the current world of multimedia cross-pollination, I can only agree, but as a caveat would exclude those who for some reason pronounce it "monga" on purpose.  Those people are the devil.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 14 May, 2015, 03:24:19 pm
...as a caveat would exclude those who for some reason pronounce it "monga" on purpose.  Those people are the devil.

This we are in complete agreement on.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 14 May, 2015, 07:45:08 pm
*Brings up the original series of Mysterious Cities of Gold, Dogtanian, and Around The World With Willy Fog...*

*...and Ulysses 31...*

*Sheds nostalgic tear for lost childhood and departs to watch old cartoon theme tunes on Youtube*
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 14 May, 2015, 08:33:35 pm
*Sheds nostalgic tear for lost childhood and departs to watch old cartoon theme tunes on Youtube*

Huh, I never realised we are the same age.

Those were some fun theme tunes.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 14 May, 2015, 09:40:46 pm
Yep - recently turned the wrong side of 30.

Cities of Gold, especially, is a cracker. The cartoon itself went completely over my head at that age, but the tune stayed with me - along with Phillip Schofield introducing it from the Broom Cupboard with Ed the Duck and Gordon the Gopher!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 14 May, 2015, 10:31:07 pm
Cities of Gold doesn't seem especially familiar.  There may have been something on the other side that I watched.  I do remember Schofield, Gordon the Gopher and Ed the Duck.  I still have an Ed the Duck calender mug from 1992.

Speaking of awesome cartoon theme tunes, let us not forget Trap Door. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 15 May, 2015, 12:00:39 am
Well GitS SAC is something I bought when the boxsets were first released.  I'm a massive GitS fan, although I have been very hesitant in watching the latest addition.

As you should be.

Being an equally big GITS fan, I bought the first two episodes of Ghost In The Shell: Arise earlier this year. The first episode is one of the worst written single episodes of ANYTHING I've ever witnessed, and does little to convince that the new direction of the show, basically giving us 'Section 9: The Early Years' is in any way a good idea.

I was actually so horrified at how crappy it was that I very nearly just didn't bother with the second episode. When I did, I was pleasantly surprised. Most of what the first episode did wrong, the second bypassed completely, and it had a much more appreciably GITS-y feel. However, it's still stymied by some pretty glaring faults. Action scenes literally happen out of nowhere. And there are some woefully ill-explained developments.

If you have to be paying rapt, unblinking attention to your entertainment, and look things up on wikipedia or spend hours scratching your head afterwards just to make sense of it, that's a bad thing.

So, check it out, sure... but go into it forewarned.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: pictsy on 15 May, 2015, 12:02:57 pm
As you should be.

Being an equally big GITS fan, I bought the first two episodes of Ghost In The Shell: Arise earlier this year. The first episode is one of the worst written single episodes of ANYTHING I've ever witnessed, and does little to convince that the new direction of the show, basically giving us 'Section 9: The Early Years' is in any way a good idea.

I was actually so horrified at how crappy it was that I very nearly just didn't bother with the second episode. When I did, I was pleasantly surprised. Most of what the first episode did wrong, the second bypassed completely, and it had a much more appreciably GITS-y feel. However, it's still stymied by some pretty glaring faults. Action scenes literally happen out of nowhere. And there are some woefully ill-explained developments.

If you have to be paying rapt, unblinking attention to your entertainment, and look things up on wikipedia or spend hours scratching your head afterwards just to make sense of it, that's a bad thing.

So, check it out, sure... but go into it forewarned.

Unfortunately this is all why I am hesitant.  I was first sceptical about it when I heard the premiss.  I'm not sure it works knowing too much the Majors past given that she is such an intentionally enigmatic character.  How SAC dealt with it was fantastic, especially in the second series.  I also heard that Motoko was made excessively vulnerable in the first part of Arise.  She certainly has vulnerability within the rest of the franchise but it was offset by how incredibly capable she is.  I would rather see her capability as a reaction to her childhood trauma and a necessity in dealing with a full prosthetic body at such a young age.

Then I think that Arise is probably going to be better than that inevitably disappointing live action film they're making.  Right?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 16 May, 2015, 10:14:19 pm
I'm thinking of getting stuck into DS9 again, but I'm torn on whether or not I slog through the early seasons, or just skip to when Mister Worf shows up.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 16 May, 2015, 10:18:28 pm
I'm thinking of getting stuck into DS9 again, but I'm torn on whether or not I slog through the early seasons, or just skip to when Mister Worf shows up.

ha! Yep thoughts I am only one on that, but there some good episodes on 2nd half of Season 2.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 17 May, 2015, 01:56:47 am

Unfortunately this is all why I am hesitant.  I was first sceptical about it when I heard the premiss.  I'm not sure it works knowing too much the Majors past given that she is such an intentionally enigmatic character.  How SAC dealt with it was fantastic, especially in the second series.  I also heard that Motoko was made excessively vulnerable in the first part of Arise.  She certainly has vulnerability within the rest of the franchise but it was offset by how incredibly capable she is.  I would rather see her capability as a reaction to her childhood trauma and a necessity in dealing with a full prosthetic body at such a young age.


This is part of the problem for me. I think Arise is guilty of humanizing Kusanagi a little too much.

The best way to go into it is maybe to approach it as a 'what if..?' kind of deal. That's easy to do as it's billed as a prequel to the '95 movie. It's certainly not in continuity with SAC, overwriting the origin that gave Kusanagi, as well as her first meeting with Saito (a real highlight of SAC - the line 'You're MINE now, you son of a bitch!' still makes me flinch!)

What cripples it for me is that the first episode follows a kind of mystery-thriller path, and it botches things badly. It DOES make use of some of the unique aspects of GITS, but fumbles the mystery / whodunnit aspect by having the central conundrum unravelled by the worst means possible. Instead of Kusanagi puzzling things out and revealing the truth with actual detective work, it gets parcelled out to us bite size by incidental characters who literally (in one case at least) simply walk in from stage right and start blabbing it all. 

It's not terrible, though. Arise has some good stuff. Like I say, episode 2 is much better, and actually has some pretty gnarly moments. The new voice actress for Kusanagi is great, as is the new Logicoma. And it does look pretty damned gorgeous on blu-ray.

Just... proceed with caution. You REALLY have to forgive a lot and treat it as its own animal going in.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Keef Monkey on 19 May, 2015, 10:39:08 am
Enjoyed Arise, and agree the second episode was way better than the first. Still to see 3&4 because although they're on Netflix I'm holding off for the blu-ray and can't find anything about a release.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 20 May, 2015, 11:08:31 pm
Well into Season 3 of ALIAS and still enjoying it as it becomes more contorted.

Highlight so far has been a cracking episode called Facade which starts out as an M:I style caper with Rick Gervaise being the mark.  By the end of the episode the stakes have escalated beyond recognition. It's not only a great ensemble piece where everybody gets something significant to do but also a great standalone episode for the most part until they pull out a reference that ties together earlier story threads and ups the stakes even higher.   Fantastic stuff.

Jennifer Garner is mesmerising but I also love Victor Garber as Jack. Especially since discovering he starred in the 1973 movie of Godspell.

(http://www11.pic-upload.de/12.12.14/ui3c3m62gbbm.jpg)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 21 May, 2015, 03:50:34 am
I was going to try and dig up a photo of that Garber fellow, as the original, original, original.....

Superman with a fro!

Was going to share it on the movie thread about that new film he's in now!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 01 June, 2015, 08:09:04 pm
I am still not enjoying watching IT'S ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA but Tiny Tips watches it so I see the odd episode.

But...

"That is such a turn-off. I'm losing my cock ring here" had me laughing very long and hard.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 02 June, 2015, 10:14:25 pm
Enjoyed Arise, and agree the second episode was way better than the first. Still to see 3&4 because although they're on Netflix I'm holding off for the blu-ray and can't find anything about a release.

Missed this before.

As a general rule of thumb, we get dubbed anime after everybody else. Arise is being handled by Funimation in the States, and the 3rd and 4th OVA haven't even surfaced over there yet.

News has broken of Arise being aired on TV in Japan, so I expect we'll see home video releases of the next two episodes around then. Japan are also getting a 5th OVA, which hasn't been confirmed as yet for Western distribution. There's also going to be a movie, which seems to further the delusion that this version of GITS is anywhere near as good as Stand Alone Complex. :p

As critical as I am of this stab at the franchise, I'd really like to be able to get my hands on the rest of Arise without paying for a ridiculously priced Japanese BD.

Also, about that second episode - did anyone else take a while to twig what was going on with Motoko's bike when she has her freeway encounter with Batou?
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 05 June, 2015, 12:17:45 am
Fell into a re watch of Band of Brothers.
Crossroads. Bastogne and Breaking Point.

That's some quality television right there with some genius visual storytelling.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 06 June, 2015, 11:51:21 pm
And skipped back to Day of Days episode today seeing as it was D-Day. Great stuff. I would not do any of what they did. You would really have to go me in an Independence Day situation before I lifted  a gun.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 22 June, 2015, 03:18:36 pm
Currently hurteling towards the finale of GoT season 4. Bloody hell, wasn't expecting Oberyn to snuff it, and in quite such an awful manner.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 22 June, 2015, 10:15:16 pm
NBC Cancels "Hannibal" After Three Seasons
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 13 July, 2015, 04:59:03 pm
Spent this weekend getting through most of the first season of VEEP. Not quite as hilarious as I'd come to hope but still very good. The characters are a bit US-comedy-staples, but there are always a couple of great gags per episode - my favourite was the list of nicknames that her staffers have to google to find out what the bloggers are saying about her.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 13 July, 2015, 06:15:05 pm
We just polished off season 3 of Orange is the New Black on Netflix.

It's such a fantastic show with one of - if not the - best ensemble cast on TV - all the more amazing considering how many of them were complete unknowns when the show began. The last (feature-length) episode was pure joy.

If I had to nitpick, I'd say the ostensible lead characters (Piper and Alex) are now kind of redundant and uninteresting, and that the writers are also in danger of smoothing off all of the nastier characters rough edges and making former 'bad guys' a bit too cuddly.

Another potential issue is that they've now examined pretty much every single tertiary character in detail - something that the finale seems to acknowledge, hinting that they're set to introduce a huge new influx of characters for season 4.

I'm also not a huge fan of the more far-fetched/soapier elements of the show - the ongoing baby drama etc. For me the real strength of the show has always been in its self-contained character studies (with attending flashbacks) that shed light on side characters and show us how they ended up in Litchfield.

I always assumed that this would be a show that would struggle to maintain momentum after its fantastic first season, and I'm delighted to be proven wrong.

Big Boo FTW.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 13 July, 2015, 06:59:59 pm
Finished my Band Of Brothers re watch. Choked up during Why We Fight and Points.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 13 July, 2015, 07:03:18 pm
Finished my Band Of Brothers re watch. Choked up during Why We Fight and Points.

Why We Fight is possibly the greatest single episode of any television show ever.
Title: Re: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: W. R. Logan on 13 July, 2015, 09:08:33 pm
I can stay stiff upper lipped through all of BoB but Major Winters final quote gets me every time.
http://youtu.be/iWkRPs0smnE


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Title: Re: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 14 July, 2015, 01:42:45 pm
I can stay stiff upper lipped through all of BoB but Major Winters final quote gets me every time.
http://youtu.be/iWkRPs0smnE


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I'm not clicking on that. I'll just start crying in the pub.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 14 July, 2015, 05:29:22 pm
Being off work long term sick has pros and cons. Pros - I have been watching a lot of online tv... Firefly rewatch was as beautiful as ever.
Under the Dome... my self hate kept me going. It is objectively BAD television. Characters constantly act in inconsistent ways, never telling each other the crazy things they saw... then I read it is written by the Lost team... Horrible show. You can see Dean Norris screaming 'I WAS IN BREAKING BAD!' from behind his eyes as he delivers each leaden line... but grud help me, I could not stop watching...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: DaveGYNWA on 15 July, 2015, 08:02:30 am
Under the Dome... my self hate kept me going. It is objectively BAD television. Characters constantly act in inconsistent ways, never telling each other the crazy things they saw... then I read it is written by the Lost team... Horrible show. You can see Dean Norris screaming 'I WAS IN BREAKING BAD!' from behind his eyes as he delivers each leaden line... but grud help me, I could not stop watching...

We were browsing the channels the other night and this was on. After looking at the info, the first thing I thought was "how the hell did this get to season 3?" I think we gave up on it after 2 episodes of the first series for the reasons you state.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Famous Mortimer on 17 July, 2015, 09:57:11 am
Being off work long term sick has pros and cons. Pros - I have been watching a lot of online tv... Firefly rewatch was as beautiful as ever.
Under the Dome... my self hate kept me going. It is objectively BAD television. Characters constantly act in inconsistent ways, never telling each other the crazy things they saw... then I read it is written by the Lost team... Horrible show. You can see Dean Norris screaming 'I WAS IN BREAKING BAD!' from behind his eyes as he delivers each leaden line... but grud help me, I could not stop watching...
I remember partway through season 1, Steven King defended the show in public, saying it was a different version of his book but still great, etc etc. The thing that always struck me is, if the original book had had the same plot as the show, it'd have been a complete disaster.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 17 July, 2015, 11:07:45 am
You've heard of must-watch tv, Under the Dome is hate-watch tv.  The season 2 cliffhanger is hilariously bad on every conceivable level, and yet the season 3 opener somehow manages to double-down.
The only good thing to come out of it has been that if you're a BKV fan, he seems to be working like a carthorse making new comics rather than spend any more time on UtD.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 23 July, 2015, 06:25:09 pm
Dragon Ball Super is turning out to be remarkably fun. Helps that it's scripted by Toriyama and is deliberatly diverging from the majority of Dragon Ball Z and instead trying to capture the silly action series aisthetic of Dragon Ball. Still no sign of Jaco the Galactic Patrolman yet though....
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 24 July, 2015, 01:39:29 am
Every time I see Hawkmonger's tag next the 'last post' icon in this thread, part of me hopes he's watching anime! :p

And, oddly enough, so am I. The weekend approaches, and with it, the next dose of Gundam OO. Bloody hell - THAT'S how you do a giant robot TV show!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 24 July, 2015, 09:46:31 am
Heh, i've started watching anime again as a form of background static while I clean or draw. Watched quite a bit in recent weeks but never really bothered to keep the tread updated.

Anyway, Free! Iwatobi Swim Club was fun, a sports series about five young swimmers trying to make it in the professional competative swimming world. Very light weight viewing, mainly episodic and very well animated. Just a fun little series that didn't command and require much thought or attention, but as someone who swam competitively in high school it was a fun romp all the same. 

Jojos Bizarre Adventure Part 3 Stardust Crusaders wrapped up it's second (and last) season in fine form wih the four part epic DIO'S WORLD story arc. Beautifully animated and very, very true to the original material (of which it's no secret i'm as big a fan you can get). Also, steam roller. (http://youtu.be/XRTIwDbmVzM)

I tried getting into Overlord, thinking it would be a fun fantasy romp, but turned out it was just another dreary "Player stuck in virtual MMO" type series (yes, thats a genre now). At least the main character was kinda fun, in that he was a completely unlikeable bellend and made no attempts to better himself because he's self aware to the point he knows he's the villein. Not really reccomended but at least it has a kick arse opening.

Other things i've just kind of half watched include World Trigger, Food Wars!, and a re-viewing of Shojo Kakumei Utena. All enjoyable in their own way (Utena is a masterpiece, who am I kidding) but Ushio & Tora and DBS are the only NEW series i'm currently watching...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 25 July, 2015, 03:29:29 am
Gawd yeah - Japan is really doing the 'real people stuck in high stakes video game' schtick to death. I get a lot of amusement from seeing all the back and forth over Sword Art Online. But it's also kind of depressing. I mean, if people would focus on Log Horizon, which is properly decent, as opposed to harping on about SAO, maybe there'd be a bit more focus on quality shows over such dreadfully inconsistent pap.

I'm currently too strapped for cash to indulge my Japanese cartoon habit, but I'm pumped about Legend of the Galactic Heroes getting licensed Stateside. I can see that being a show some of the board regulars here would enjoy. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 25 July, 2015, 10:41:43 am
Sense8 on Netflix. Can't decide whether it was the worst thing I've seen in ages, or the best - either way it was a huge amount of fun. So much of it is gimmicky, hammy and predictable, but then it does things with all those flaws that are unlike anything I've ever seen, and almost impossible to believe you're watching on 'television'.

It's all such stilted rubbish, with hardly a single line you could believe a human being uttering, woefully uneven pacing...but: the Nairobi car chase, the cringe-inducing (or was it?) 4 Non Blondes singalong and the Bollywood dance number, the polysexual mental orgy, the lab breakout, the uplifting nature of Lito's story arc, the neat inversion of Wolfgang's... Somehow in its dog's dinner of cliches it manages to be something utterly unique, and quite gorgeous.

Feck it I don't know what to think, but I do know I'll be watching the next season, even just to ponder logistics that must make Game of Thrones seem like a production of Waiting for Godot.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mardroid on 25 July, 2015, 02:12:24 pm
I loved the four non blondes bit.

But then again I like that song a lot.

And kudos to them for sticking a entire cheesy Bollywood style musical number into an episode.

A bit of.cheese can be good fun sometimes.

I can understand some people really cringeing at these sequences though, which makes me admire the production team's audacity in including them.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 25 July, 2015, 02:26:31 pm
I loved the four non blondes bit.

So did I. No, wait, I hated it. No, no, I loved it. Or did I? Lawks, I'm confused.

You put you finger on it, there Mardroid: audacity. It's just plain audacious, and it's great to live at a time where such productions are possible and accessible.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Satanist on 05 August, 2015, 01:00:52 pm
Mr Robot - started off well and has just got better, it'll have to fuck up the ending bigtime to spoil my enjoyment. Imagine Breaking Bad crossed with Fight Club and you're about there.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Satanist on 10 August, 2015, 02:42:39 pm
Watched the whole first season of Rick and Morty over the weekend and it may just be my new favourite thing. Dark, cynical, sweary and yet at times quite touching.

means nothing to anyone I know so I'm sticking it here...

"I'M MR MEESEEKS LOOK AT ME"
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 10 August, 2015, 03:15:50 pm
We finished all 5 seasons of ALIAS. Overall a thumbs up but seasons 1 and 2 were the best. You can see it and M:I influencing each other in some kind of bizarre time loop.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: DaveGYNWA on 10 August, 2015, 04:16:47 pm
Got around to watching Sons of Anarchy - had put it off for ages as I know that the third season is going to do my head in (bad Irish accents) so slowly working our way up to that. The accents on the couple of Irish characters in season 1 didn't annoy me at all - season 2 and we've got some dodgy accents creeping in (one of them from a character from the first season too....so it's regressing)

Fingers crossed I don't throw something at the tele in about 11 episodes time.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Skullmo on 16 August, 2015, 11:06:54 pm
Got around to watching Sons of Anarchy - had put it off for ages as I know that the third season is going to do my head in (bad Irish accents) so slowly working our way up to that. The accents on the couple of Irish characters in season 1 didn't annoy me at all - season 2 and we've got some dodgy accents creeping in (one of them from a character from the first season too....so it's regressing)

Fingers crossed I don't throw something at the tele in about 11 episodes time.

There are some great bits in that series
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 17 August, 2015, 12:58:14 pm
Watched the pilot for a thing called INTELLIGENCE last night on Lovefilm. Josh Holloway stars (and produces I think). It looks like Chuck but without any jokes. Or Castle but without any jokes or any charisma in the leads.  I don't think I shall be watching any mor ethan the 43 minutes of my life it has already taken.  Not actively bad, just 100% box ticking exercise in a buddy TV series with really flat action sequences.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: HdE on 17 August, 2015, 08:33:26 pm
That rings a bell. If I recall correctly it got almost instantly cancelled.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 17 August, 2015, 09:51:16 pm
That was one of my background shows while I worked, and memorably bad it was, too.  One of the original CSI castmembers left CSI to be on it - she's on Under The Dome now, so I'm increasingly convinced she picks bad shows deliberately.
If you want to see another show that's Chuck, only not Chuck, try Jake 2.0 if it comes up on the telly box thing.  It was Chuck before Chuck was Chuck - light-hearted and 20something friendly - only without being wilfully stupid or quite as dependent on hateful caricature.  It's not a classic or owt, but it did have an enjoyably daffy throwback premise of a CIA dogsbody accidentally turned into a Six Million Dollar Man, and had the original Six Million Dollar Man (Lee Majors) in it for an extended cameo and a bit where the character runs and it goes into slow motion and a noise goes wowowowowowow, which is really all you need in a show.

Been rewatching Street Hawk, which I only half-remember from when I was a nipper.  It's got that slightly different pacing of older tv shows from when they were about five minutes longer than they are now, and along with the music score and how shitty Los Angeles looks without lens flares and the streets all cleaned up before the film crew gets there, there's an aesthetic quality to things I really like even if the plots often aren't great and the production design - including Street Hawk itself - isn't very inventive or memorable.
Crap, but in a fun way.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tjm86 on 21 August, 2015, 05:58:06 pm
Been rewatching Street Hawk, which I only half-remember from when I was a nipper.  ..... there's an aesthetic quality to things I really like even if the plots often aren't great and the production design - including Street Hawk itself - isn't very inventive or memorable.
Crap, but in a fun way.

That's from the time in the early eighties when we had an insane number of shows like that.  Air wolf, A Team, Manimal, Automan, Blue Thunder ...   All predictable mind candy.  Watched Airwolf a while ago.  Made it through the first season and half of the second.  Decided that the (allegedly) dodgy third and fourth season weren't worth the risk.  Blue Thunder was a poor second to it and not a patch on the film. 

In a similar vein I'm on a slog through the X Files.  Currently on season 2 which if I remember was about the highlight before it completely lost the plot (or rather tied the mythology in so many knots you didn't have a clue what was going on).  Kind of weird, especially with Duchovny currently on Aquarius looking a hell of a lot older. 
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 27 August, 2015, 09:22:06 pm
CATASTROPHE just turned up on Love Film. I suspect it was on C4 previously. Kookie sit com fave Sharon Horgan and the quite edible Rob Delaney in mismatched couple expecting baby and wedding high jinks. Painfully observed but really funny.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 27 August, 2015, 09:28:45 pm
CATASTROPHE just turned up on Love Film. I suspect it was on C4 previously. Kookie sit com fave Sharon Horgan and the quite edible Rob Delaney in mismatched couple expecting baby and wedding high jinks. Painfully observed but really funny.

Indeed, highly recommended. It will lull you into thinking it's just another comfy 'mismatched couple' sitcom, then throw in  a jaw-dropping gag about abortion or something.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 27 August, 2015, 09:58:32 pm
Still working my way through The West Wing. Now I know people rave about the end of Season 1 and start of Season 2, but man that last episode of Season 4 was quite something, really quite something.

It really is an incredibly good show.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 28 August, 2015, 09:52:50 am
CATASTROPHE just turned up on Love Film. I suspect it was on C4 previously. Kookie sit com fave Sharon Horgan and the quite edible Rob Delaney in mismatched couple expecting baby and wedding high jinks. Painfully observed but really funny.

Ah cool. They were the guests on this weeks Richard Herring podcast. This will mAke the show easier to track down.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 28 August, 2015, 08:26:14 pm
Just finish watch final episode of Season 3 of Person of Interest on Channel 5, oh wow that was brilliant season! Don't know what to expect in Season 4, would be interesting to see what new way they will do it. As I know I am one of few who watch it from Series 1 on C5. Worth it to check first two series on Netflix. It very familiar to PSU in Mega-City 1.
Title: Re: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 17 September, 2015, 06:59:11 am
Rick and Morty.

As a huge fan of Community and Dan Harmon, I watched the first few eps of R&M when it debuted last year, but while I enjoyed it, it didn't quite grab me enough to persevere. Decided to give it another try the other day and devoured almost the entire first season in one sitting. Now on to season 2.

It's magnificent. As a high concept sci fi comedy cartoon, its very reminiscent of Futurama at its peak, and much like Community, it has me both howling with laughter and marvelling at how clever it is.

Highly, highly recommended.
Title: Re: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 17 September, 2015, 08:50:12 am

It's magnificent. As a high concept sci fi comedy cartoon, its very reminiscent of Futurama at its peak, and much like Community, it has me both howling with laughter and marvelling at how clever it is.

Highly, highly recommended.

Seconded. Utterly phenomenal TV - each episode is a whirlwind of creative fury and boundless madness that's completely irresistible. I cannot think of a single show like it apart from the halcyon days of Futurama perhaps. I can't reccommend it higher.

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/l41lMVHP4uOK1it5m/200.gif)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Satanist on 17 September, 2015, 09:14:45 am
Wubba Lubba Dub Dub BITCHES!

Watched "The Bastard Executioner" last night. Its an alright intro and I'll stick with it to see where it goes.

Sutter did the Shield which was great and Sons of Anarchy which was pish and actually got worse so it could go either way.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: I, Cosh on 17 September, 2015, 09:51:33 am
A colleague foisted his much loved Rome box sets on me a few months ago. It's taken me a while to get through the first series but it's fairly enjoyable. I found both the odd couple PoV characters a bit irritating but the big hitters were all pretty good, particularly Ciaran Hinds' Caesar.

Having developed a taste for all things Roman I then moved onto the utterly ludicrous Spartacus: Blood and Sand. This is very, very silly indeed. Taking its lead from 300 but far more fun, it manages to make a stylistic virtue of its CGI blood and ropey backgrounds. Legs are hacked, throats sliced, John Hannah is slimy and there are more tits on display than you can shake a gladius at.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 17 September, 2015, 10:53:44 am
A colleague foisted his much loved Rome box sets on me a few months ago. It's taken me a while to get through the first series but it's fairly enjoyable. I found both the odd couple PoV characters a bit irritating but the big hitters were all pretty good, particularly Ciaran Hinds' Caesar.

I bloody love Rome, its jammed packed with silliness and nonsense (not as much as Spartacus: Blood and Sand, as I'm led to believe, hence I've avoided that), but does a really good job of presenting the history in a fun, relatively accurate (as far as I know) way. Though if you don't like Titus Pullo (Ray Stevenson as one of the odd couple POV characters) you are dead to me, you hear, dead to me.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 17 September, 2015, 11:31:31 am
Thirteenth! Thirteenth!  Yeah, Rome is all kinds of stupid fun, but Spartacus is even more stupid, and thus logically even more fun.  It has its own daft pronoun-free dialect, elevates blood and gore to some kind of inoffensive expressionist art form, and fearlessly brings the mirkin back into fashion.  The first two series (original and prequel) are especially great.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 17 September, 2015, 01:37:00 pm
I loved James Purefoy as the 'cock of the north' Mark Anthony.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 17 September, 2015, 01:41:51 pm
Great scene!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBCqAU4HB5o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBCqAU4HB5o)
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Proudhuff on 17 September, 2015, 03:56:54 pm
Rome was fun once they got the obligatory HBO nakedness and violence toned down and got on with the story, Spartacus: Blood and Sand was just badly done nonsense, not bad enough to be fun or funny but po-faced enough in a 300 way to make it a laughing stock.

Those nice peeps at Lovefilm have finally sent me the first disc of Treme: series 4. Nice.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 17 September, 2015, 05:09:06 pm
Ah no Huffster,  Spartacus was brilliant: definitely bad enough to be funny, but it also completely and unashamedly embraced its sweaty nipple histrionics and endlessly exaggerated aesthetic, resulting in marvelous painterly setpieces and gripping melodramatic payoffs. Just bats enough to be great.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Dandontdare on 17 September, 2015, 05:39:48 pm
I'm fighting with Tordelblock on this one - Hannah's finest hour!
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: SIP on 17 September, 2015, 06:53:59 pm
Yeah, another fan of Spartacus here too, though the first two series far surpassed the last two in my opinion.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Richmond Clements on 21 September, 2015, 03:02:59 pm
Have had Revolution on as I work the past while... it's very very silly, isn't it? I have thought there's a drinking game in taking a shot everytime someone has a gun held to them and then a character off screen saves them - it happens at least twice an episode.
Much like Dean Norris in Under the Dome, you can see the scream from behind Giancarlo Esposito's eyes as he thinks 'I was in Breaking Bad!'

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 21 September, 2015, 07:26:08 pm
Wubba Lubba Dub Dub BITCHES!

Is what I have been mostly watching and entirely loving.

Poor Morty... and poor Rick, I guess.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: auxlen on 28 September, 2015, 05:23:00 pm
Just restarted Breaking bad and I'm struggling with the last season because i hate Todd so much. Dead eyed prick. (or potato Matt damon)

Currently re-watched all of red dwarf. even enjoyed the previously hated (by me ) series 9.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mister Pops on 28 September, 2015, 09:15:38 pm
Just restarted Breaking bad and I'm struggling with the last season because i hate Todd so much. Dead eyed prick. (or potato Matt damon)


I quite liked calling him Meth Damon.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: TordelBack on 28 September, 2015, 09:54:43 pm
Just restarted Breaking bad and I'm struggling with the last season because i hate Todd so much.

Woah yeah, he is a vile creation alright. Even though he's meant to be exactly that, he's still hard to watch for multiple episodes. Frankly I just wanted him to die right after the train heist.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: auxlen on 29 September, 2015, 04:29:36 pm
Although the scene where they cut up the bike then...


but yeah...he's just vile.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 29 September, 2015, 05:08:36 pm
Been catching up on Rick and Morty and can't add anymore superlatives than have already been gushed upon the series. Utterly hilarious.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Satanist on 29 September, 2015, 06:26:10 pm
Been catching up on Rick and Morty and can't add anymore superlatives than have already been gushed upon the series. Utterly hilarious.

I'm still here and still selling real fake doors  :lol:
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 29 September, 2015, 06:44:46 pm
"I'm 'Ants-in-my-eyes' Johnson! And everything is black, I still can't feel a thing and I hope our prices aren't too low!"
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 30 September, 2015, 06:21:10 pm
"I'm 'Ants-in-my-eyes' Johnson! And everything is black, I still can't feel a thing and I hope our prices aren't too low!"

:D Best one :D

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Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 01 October, 2015, 01:00:42 pm
American Horror Story: Freak Show (Season 4) and The Flash: Season 1 will coming to Netflix on October 6
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 01 October, 2015, 01:36:44 pm
HOUSE OF CARDS (with Kevin Spacey) is a bit good.

We also started watching BOSCH on Lovefilm. It looks like a good police procedural with added swearing, nakedness and gore.  The dialogue veers between seemingly authentic cop mumble speak to cliched "He's not worth it!". So a bit like a Michael Connelly book then.  Connelly, coincidentally, plays poker (as himself) with Nathan Fillion in Castle.

Oh and we watched the first episode of TRANSPARENT because it has the magnicient Jeffery Tambor in it.  We classified it as TBFTL.*



* Tits, Bum, Fannies; The Lot.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: auxlen on 01 October, 2015, 04:15:03 pm
Just binge watched Ray Donovan on Amazon. a Very odd series with some truly disturbing scenes and a lot of dark secrets worming themselves out of cans. (Jon Voight is truly disgusting)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2249007/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2249007/)

Loved it tho.
They are making me purchase season 2 on DVD. bastards.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 08 October, 2015, 08:01:16 pm
Finally finish complete seasons of Dexter as only watched first season on TV long time ago! What a crappest ending!!

Dexter does went down after season 4. :(
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Theblazeuk on 10 October, 2015, 11:17:50 pm
Over the Garden Wall

Weird, fun stuff.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Citi-Def_Joe on 11 October, 2015, 10:21:25 am
A bit late to the party but  really enjoyed the first series of  Rick & Morty, perfect little sub 30 min episodes of silly slightly weird fun
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 11 October, 2015, 12:22:32 pm
Must get the box set of Monty-Python's-Flying-Circus.. the entire collected series. I sure it's still available to buy first hand. 

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Devons Daddy on 22 October, 2015, 05:18:03 am
just about to complete, Battle Star Galactica (not the original team)
first time is was a WOW , second time its an AMAZING WOW :o
almost halfway through the final season now,

stands up well, and will likely age with grace due to it dirty ,realistic flawed characters and at times impactful questions it raises leaving the viewer with the question,

ok lets not consider the final episode, i know, but I can live with it.
but still an incredibly good show.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 11 January, 2016, 01:25:48 am
Netflix's controversial new series Making a Murderer.

I'll save you some time.

This zeitgeisty docu-series actually made me a bit angry - It's like Errol Morris' The Thin Blue Line or the HBO Paradise Lost trilogy, except that in this case the guy the doc is trying to exonerate blatantly did it.

Watch those aforementioned docs instead - they're far more compelling and don't feel so dishonest.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: richerthanyou on 11 January, 2016, 04:32:13 am
I went back and watched the first followed directly by the final season of Breaking Bad. I must have watched the whole thing 4 times through already, and the show is just as exciting still. I must remember to build myself a meth empire one of these days...
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 21 January, 2016, 11:33:41 am
Man in the High Castle. It's bloody fantastic stuff.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Tiplodocus on 21 January, 2016, 12:40:19 pm
Man in the High Castle. It's bloody fantastic stuff.
Positively glacial but in a good way. Rufus Sewell is superb.


HOUSE
I think we are somewhere in Season 3 - a great half dozen episode arc where House gets singled out for treatment by a superb, softly spoken David Morse appears to have come to a bit of a damp squib ending (Cop gives up when even Cuddy closes ranks, House is in Rehab but sill on his pills?) but Hugh Laurie was absolutely on fire as his addiction amplified his ass-hattedness. 

The episodes are often best when you have a good patient rather than a good mystery; so we've had some crackers with Joel Grey, John Laroquette, an angry twenty something couple and a big, big fella in a pretty convincing fat suit (the chap from Herschell's farm that Shane did the dirty on  in The Walking Dead). 

I also laughed like a drain when House's secret stash of Vicadin was in his Lupus (whatever that is) Reference book and he says "But it's never Lupus" (this has become a running joke in the Tips' Household).
Anyway, cracking stuff. And we haven't even got to Olivia Wilde yet.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Satanist on 21 January, 2016, 01:46:33 pm
Netflix's controversial new series Making a Murderer.

I just finished this and really don't know what to think. I feel that the young guy Brendan was just a bit thick and that Avery would have to be a complete and utter nutcase to murder a random with millions of USD just a few months away. The docs obviously biased but the whole things just odd but then that's people for you.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 01 February, 2016, 11:23:35 am
Fargo Season 1 - what I just watch? that was great enjoyable and Billy Bob Thornton's character  :o And nice to know one link to that film Fargo

Fargo Season 2 - Never expect it better and so brutal! too many killings!

Jessica Jones - Finally watch it, very enjoyable and final battle got me big grin
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Proudhuff on 01 February, 2016, 11:32:26 am
Penny Dreadful - series two: Mad, glad and dangerous to know, ignore the plot holes and Count Arthur Strong's sidekick's underacting and go with the flow. Loverly to look at too and the usual overly used quick cuts sparely used mostly replaced by long panning shots. Bliss.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 01 February, 2016, 03:18:48 pm
Doing Scrubs again. Not watching the awful 10th season when I get to it though.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 01 February, 2016, 04:25:57 pm
Now in the final season (7) of West Wing and while sure its not been perfect, while sure its had its ups and down and yeah its a rose tinted view of the US of As. I accept it was never going to be The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, or The Wire BUT BUT BUT by God I'm going to miss it when its gone.

Absolutely brilliant telly and at its best right up there with the aforementioned triumvirate of telly quality.

Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: radiator on 01 February, 2016, 05:27:22 pm
Netflix's controversial new series Making a Murderer.

I just finished this and really don't know what to think. I feel that the young guy Brendan was just a bit thick and that Avery would have to be a complete and utter nutcase to murder a random with millions of USD just a few months away. The docs obviously biased but the whole things just odd but then that's people for you.

The doc is really unbalanced, for instance choosing to leave out some incredibly damning trial evidence against Avery and glossing over a vague animal cruelty charge as some kind of innocent childhood jape (when in reality the sick fuck deliberately doused his pet cat in petrol and threw it in a bonfire). When I read about it all I stopped watching the series to be honest - it felt like it was way too skewed.

My personal opinion on it was that Avery almost certainly did it, but the cops bent the rules to ensure a conviction - and I also believe that that kind of thing goes on all the time. Not because of some grand conspiracy (like the rather far-fetched picture the doc tries to paint), but because of an 'ends justify the means' kind of attitude. And yeah, maybe that does need a little light shone on it (and obviously even the guilty deserve a fair trial), but don't try to muddy the waters by making out like its a tale of a noble man wrongfully convicted.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Colin YNWA on 07 February, 2016, 09:53:08 pm
Well just seen it (the last of The West Wing) and damn that's some fine, fine telly. It might not be quite up there with the very, very best, but damnit its so very, very close and really if you've not seen it I can't recommend it highly enough, well assuming you've all already seen Breaking Bad, The Wire and The Sopranos that is.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mardroid on 08 February, 2016, 12:39:55 am
I watched the first series* of Peakey Blinders on Netflix this week. I remember seeing it advertised when it came out, but never got round to watching it until now.

I found it very enjoyable. The subject matter 'family based gangster drama' isn't exactly original, but setting it in post - Great War Birmingham and the whole cinematic depiction, (very British, but with a flavour of Western to my mind, despite not being set in the U.S. or in the old West time period, although not that long after being 1919) and that lovely moody Sound Track (not of that period, but it fits so well) really provides something new and unique. As does the fact these lads (and the ladies in their own way, one who had to run 'the business' while the lads were away fighting, the other affected by IRA terrorism, a whole different but equally real war) are damaged war veterans.

The main characters are very likeable, flawed and very human. The most dislikeable character, ironically is the Northern Irish cop sent to bring back the stash of guns stolen at the start. But he is meant to be dislikeable, and is a great character in his own right.

I look forward to seeing the next series, although I suspect Ill have to wait a while if I have the patience to wait for it to appear on Netflix.


* I did a brief bit of internet research when I finished the series and was surprised they've done two series and there's a third coming out.It doesn't seem that long since the first series came out.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Satanist on 08 February, 2016, 11:32:24 am
Anyone seen The Flash? My kids love it and I've heard good things so was wondering if its worth catching but don't want to waste 20 odd hours if its pish.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Keef Monkey on 08 February, 2016, 05:22:56 pm
Wife and I are big fans of The Flash, so I'd recommend it. Took a few episodes to click but it's fantastic fun, and a more bright and colorful take on superhero telly/films than you generally get these days.

Not sure if you watch Arrow but it does cross over with that on occasion but generally not in a way that you'd need to see both (although we do watch and enjoy both).
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 08 February, 2016, 05:43:47 pm
Currently marathoning The Venture Bros. I have nothing to say other than this.

It's fucking brilliant. "They hit me with a truck".  :lol:


Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 08 February, 2016, 06:04:12 pm
How to get a car like a boss.

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Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 08 February, 2016, 06:41:55 pm
The Flash is at least as good as any other teen drama on tv, but it's probably better if you come to it cold so you don't wince at some of the truly terrible winks to DC continuity - although not knowing DC continuity also makes a lot of the "clever" dialogue utterly meaningless.  IE: a character who - in DC comic books - is a villainess with ice-based powers talks about her dead boyfriend who - again, in the comics - is a fire-based hero, describes an actual conversation with him in which he described them both as "like fire and ice", which, if you don't what they're alluding to, just makes him sound like an asshole, while if you do know what they're alluding to, it just sounds like awful dialogue.

I'd argue about Flash being independent from Arrow, though.  At one point there are concurrent storylines, and characters start talking about characters from the other show like the audience knows exactly what they're on about, even though they tend to exposit like crazy at any other time.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Goaty on 08 February, 2016, 07:01:13 pm
Well I did watch Flash season 1 on Netflix; odd I find many episodes repeatable of hero meet the new villain with new power and lost. And at end learn and beat them. At most every episodes??
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Professor Bear on 08 February, 2016, 07:10:36 pm
Flash is very episodic, it's true.  I love how part of the formula is that he has a room full of boffins talking to him while he fights super-powered villains, and Flash is always losing until the boffins come up with a clever plan Flash could never conceive of on his own, and it's always the exact same plan: they tell Flash to use his super-speed.  Sometimes they shake things up by having Flash use his speed in the early bit of the episode, only it turns out he's not fast enough, so he thinks maybe he's not cut out to be the Flash for about twenty minutes, but then he learns to run faster and decides that he can be Flash after all - for at least the next four episodes.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Magnetica on 08 February, 2016, 07:55:12 pm
I watched the first series* of Peakey Blinders on Netflix this week. I remember seeing it advertised when it came out, but never got round to watching it until now.

I found it very enjoyable. The subject matter 'family based gangster drama' isn't exactly original, but setting it in post - Great War Birmingham and the whole cinematic depiction, (very British, but with a flavour of Western to my mind, despite not being set in the U.S. or in the old West time period, although not that long after being 1919) and that lovely moody Sound Track (not of that period, but it fits so well) really provides something new and unique. As does the fact these lads (and the ladies in their own way, one who had to run 'the business' while the lads were away fighting, the other affected by IRA terrorism, a whole different but equally real war) are damaged war veterans.

The main characters are very likeable, flawed and very human. The most dislikeable character, ironically is the Northern Irish cop sent to bring back the stash of guns stolen at the start. But he is meant to be dislikeable, and is a great character in his own right.

I look forward to seeing the next series, although I suspect Ill have to wait a while if I have the patience to wait for it to appear on Netflix.


* I did a brief bit of internet research when I finished the series and was surprised they've done two series and there's a third coming out.It doesn't seem that long since the first series came out.


Same for me - missed it first time round, watched in about a week on Netflix. Really enjoyed it and am keen to see the next one.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: blackmocco on 09 February, 2016, 04:48:41 pm
Rewatching Hannibal from the start. If anything, it's more bizarre than first time around. If you haven't watched it, and fuck knows no-one else did, I'd say give it a go. It's so utterly macabre and unique (in a way that will either grab you or repel you) that it's worth me plugging it on here again. Don't let the fact it was on US network TV put you off. This is as intelligent, graphic and disturbing as anything on grown-up people's cable. Very interesting to watch it alongside the cinema incarnations as well and find it all fits together beautifully, despite a completely different cast.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Modern Panther on 09 February, 2016, 05:35:05 pm
After watching the first episode of Hannibal, I was a bit worried that it would turn into a crime-of-the-week drama, with odd couple investigators, one of whom happens to enjoy eating folk.  But it turned out to be this intelligent, well written show.  Madds Mikkelsen is a far more sophisticated Lector than any of the actors before him.

Then the last season went batshit crazy and I found myself watching close ups of snails whilst listening to opera and worrying about the nature of reality.  Still, it was a fantastic bit of television whilst it lasted.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Proudhuff on 09 February, 2016, 05:56:27 pm
Anyone seen The Flash? My kids love it and I've heard good things so was wondering if its worth catching but don't want to waste 20 odd hours if its pish.

Pish.
 hateful pish at that, really pishfilled pish, a pile o pish, IMHO of course.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: blackmocco on 09 February, 2016, 06:12:27 pm
After watching the first episode of Hannibal, I was a bit worried that it would turn into a crime-of-the-week drama, with odd couple investigators, one of whom happens to enjoy eating folk.  But it turned out to be this intelligent, well written show.  Madds Mikkelsen is a far more sophisticated Lector than any of the actors before him.

Then the last season went batshit crazy and I found myself watching close ups of snails whilst listening to opera and worrying about the nature of reality.  Still, it was a fantastic bit of television whilst it lasted.

I'd drank the Kool Aid by that point. Haha! I loved season three for the same reasons I loved Mad Max: Fury Road. The visuals were as much a part of the storytelling as any part of the written script and for that reason, I found myself engrossed in what was happening, even if, yeah, much of it was pretty out there. It all pulled itself back together nicely for the Red Dragon arc, I thought.

In truth, I'd probably watch Mikkelsen read the phone book. His take on Lecter was all cold reptilian menace. It's what he's not showing you in his performance that's most chilling.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Proudhuff on 10 February, 2016, 10:29:34 am
getting to the end of Penny Dreadful this week highly entertaining, some nice twists and the visuals are sensual, the odd clanger (not that kind) but overall great fun.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 10 February, 2016, 11:01:06 am
getting to the end of Penny Dreadful this week highly entertaining, some nice twists and the visuals are sensual, the odd clanger (not that kind) but overall great fun.

Bailed on Season 2 after about four episodes. After some interminable episode about prancing around on the moors, I think.

On the other hand, we're now catching up on Season 2 of Fargo — five episodes in, and it's great.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Satanist on 10 February, 2016, 11:12:30 am
I loved the 3rd season of Hannibal. Arty Farty yes but I thought there must be room on TV for at least one over the top self indulgent show, then it got cancelled. And yes Mads is simply incredible in this.

Fargos another odd show in that I didn't want to watch it as how could it live up to the Coens original. Loved the first season then worried about the second but thought that was great as well. So many great characters.

Think I'm gonna blast a few eps of Flash this weekend then see if I can figure out how PH really felt about it.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: Mardroid on 01 March, 2016, 04:14:54 am
Death Note on Netflix

I've seen part of this before, but I think it was in movie form. A lot is familiar, though, so I have it in mind they must have combined episodes and made 2 films out of them but my memory is hazy. I do remember liking it to start with back then, then my mind drifting and missing a bit, which means I probably fell asleep. Maybe I was overtired.

I decided to give it another go in this form on Netflix, and I'm really enjoying it! A very interesting dark premise, and very cleverly written.
Title: Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
Post by: amines2058 on 01 Mar