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Spoilers => Megazine => Topic started by: sheldipez on 18 December, 2012, 12:52:06 pm

Title: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: sheldipez on 18 December, 2012, 12:52:06 pm
I've noticed a couple of peeps have mentioned dropping the bundled floppies / mini graphic novels from the Megazine, and again most recentlly over at the 2000ad.wordpress. I was just wondering if this was the feelings of the majority?

I for one love those things as I get to read up on a bunch of stuff in the same series that I've never read before in one quick succession without having to go hunt down all the progs they appeared in. Though I can kinda see the point of someone who's read them all previously, but is it not good thing being able to re-read the material again in a lump.

Keep them coming please!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Andy Smart on 18 December, 2012, 01:06:50 pm
Quote from: sheldipez link=topic=37607.msg732731#msg732731 date=1355835126
Keep them coming please!
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Seconded. I'm always happy to read these even if the material isn't the best. Plus, there's still plenty of stuff that could be reprinted.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: radiator on 18 December, 2012, 01:35:57 pm
The contents of the Megazine has always been a balancing act ever since they had to start including reprint material 16 years ago.

A Megazine consisting solely of all-new strip material isn't economically viable - and it amazes me that some long-term readers still haven't grasped this.

I kinda like the floppies. There've been a fair few that haven't been to my taste, but I do like the fact that I now have certain niche strips like Strontium Dogs, Durham Red, Downlode Tales etc that are unlikely to be collected elsewhere.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Dandontdare on 18 December, 2012, 01:46:01 pm
The only problem with them is that they sometimes (certainly not always) serve to highlight a poor Meg - if I find that the most enjoyable read out of the whole package is a 20 year old reprint of a  B-list strip, then you have to question what's in the main magazine.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Andy Smart on 18 December, 2012, 01:51:19 pm
The only problem with them is that they sometimes (certainly not always) serve to highlight a poor Meg - if I find that the most enjoyable read out of the whole package is a 20 year old reprint of a  B-list strip, then you have to question what's in the main magazine.

On those occasions I'd rather come away with something than nothing.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: NapalmKev on 18 December, 2012, 02:25:52 pm
The free 'floppie' is what tipped the balance as regards to my first purchase of the Megazine. Admittedly 'some' of the reprints have been of 'less than stellar' stories, but I still the floppy as a very much welcome addition to the Meg!

Cheers
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: James Stacey on 18 December, 2012, 02:32:01 pm
Its a price I'm prepared to pay for the continuation of the Meg. A poor floppy and Sexy Ostriches together tho does make me wonder why I bother sometimes mind.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 18 December, 2012, 02:36:15 pm
Love the bagged floppies.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Pioneer on 18 December, 2012, 03:12:17 pm
Love the bagged floppies.

Yeah same, recent Ratfink and Marauder most enjoyable. Looking forward to getting stuck in to Disaster 1990 over the next couple days for some old school vibes
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mabs on 18 December, 2012, 03:17:24 pm
As a new reader i have to say i love the floppies! I get to read stuff which i would not have known about. The last few floppies have been very good, especially Ratfink which i thought was superb, and Finn. Anyway, if you dont like the floppy you dont have to read it. Simple as that. But personally i gotta say i like 'em!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Proudhuff on 18 December, 2012, 03:30:25 pm
keep em coming, I say.

With the notable exception of Death Planet, I've enjoyed reading them. Things which I never enjoyed at the time are so much better collected (Gibbons Rogue?), and often if its one character their collected tales mean we can follow their development: Ratfink, especially when it links to stories in the megazine.


I do think the Rebellion is missing a trick by facing these inward when they are bagged, face out would mean punters could see what the bonus was, might hook in a couple o waverers.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: P-BOT/1138 on 18 December, 2012, 03:46:27 pm
the only problem,i think, with them is that you're not gonna get the best stories.
cause theyre gonna be in trade.
so, unless youre a big fan of some obscure story they arent gonna put in trade. your gonna love the floppie.
would also like to see them not running the same story concurently.
three months of mercy heights then two of tor cyan were a real slog.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 December, 2012, 04:00:43 pm
I've read all but one of them and usually read them before bed and then store them. I agree with Proudhuff, that they should be facing outwards, especially as many of the covers are very enticing!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 18 December, 2012, 05:54:14 pm


With the notable exception of Death Planet

Had a fantastic cover though. Worth the price of admission for that alone.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 18 December, 2012, 09:20:23 pm
I thoroughly enjoyed re-reading Death Planet. It was a product of its time, but no worse that, say, Futureworld or whatever the Westworld sequel was called.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: hippynumber1 on 18 December, 2012, 09:40:27 pm
I love the floppies; more so when it's something I know won't get collected elsewhere - Death Planet, Disaster 1990 and their ilk remind me of simpler times...
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 18 December, 2012, 09:59:53 pm
I must admit that on the rare occasions that I do purchase the Meg it's usually only because I want the bagged floppie.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 19 December, 2012, 12:38:36 pm
I must admit that on the rare occasions that I do purchase the Meg it's usually only because I want the bagged floppie.

Likewise. I don't buy the Meg anymore (endless Tank Girl was the final nail in the coffin for me) but I pick up back issues for the floppies - it's nice to have cheap, complete collections of the likes of Deadlock, Ratfink, Strontium Dogs, etc.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: oshii on 19 December, 2012, 03:28:31 pm
Sorry, not a fan of them, but that's probably because a) I've got a full set of progs so already have everything that turns up in them.  and b) I've got nowhere to put the bloody things

I'd prefer to have the option of buying a floppyless Meg (even at the same price), but I'm obviously in a minority on that.  And as someone else said, if they're the price to pay for the continued existence of the Meg, then fair enough.  (and Pye's covers for Death Planet and Disaster 1990 were great)
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 19 December, 2012, 06:07:49 pm


I'd prefer to have the option of buying a floppyless Meg (even at the same price)

Well, no disrespect intended, but you can already do that by simply binning the floppy. You don't have to keep them.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Andy Smart on 19 December, 2012, 08:08:46 pm


I'd prefer to have the option of buying a floppyless Meg (even at the same price)

Well, no disrespect intended, but you can already do that by simply binning the floppy. You don't have to keep them.

Personally, I only keep the ones I actually enjoy and chuck any that are a bit ropey.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Dandontdare on 19 December, 2012, 08:41:33 pm


I'd prefer to have the option of buying a floppyless Meg (even at the same price)

Well, no disrespect intended, but you can already do that by simply binning the floppy. You don't have to keep them.

but without the "graphic novel" it's a very expensive magazine. The only justification for the regular price hikes is all the free reprint material.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: oshii on 19 December, 2012, 09:09:57 pm


I'd prefer to have the option of buying a floppyless Meg (even at the same price)

Well, no disrespect intended, but you can already do that by simply binning the floppy. You don't have to keep them.

I never said it made sense....

Can't quite bring myself to throw away something from the House of Tharg.  My house would be a lot tidier if I could
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: maryanddavid on 19 December, 2012, 10:28:59 pm
I like them too, I rarely read them when I get them, but pick them up when im at a loss for something to read, and im usually surprised at how much I enjoyed them.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 19 December, 2012, 11:46:34 pm
I run hot and cold on them. On a good month i bemoan that im not able to show my support for the brand by giving tharg cash for the same material between marginally more rigid covers. On a bad month i just dont read them and pack them away. Im not sure how long-term my storage of them will be as the paperstock seems so flimsy it bubbles if there's moisture in the air even. I have a feeling that given a wifely ultimatum, they'd be first to go.

However, if it adds to the perceived value of The Meg, encourages newer readers than myself, and keeps it on the shelves, I'll happily keep stacking them. One day they'll get The Meg exactly right for me (closest: back when it had a spine) and it will last two perfect issues before being cancelled and crumbling to dust, as everything perfect in my life seems to do. And then I will cry. But until then, whatever it takes to keep it around is fine by me.

SBT
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Dandontdare on 20 December, 2012, 12:10:59 am
Im not sure how long-term my storage of them will be as the paperstock seems so flimsy it bubbles if there's moisture in the air even.

yeah what's that all about? Where do they even get this freakishly volatile paper-like substance?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 20 December, 2012, 12:17:26 am
Some kind of bakery suppliers, or kitchenware outlet, is my guess.

SBT
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: James Stacey on 20 December, 2012, 09:22:40 am
I remember reading a copy of the mean machine one in the garden and accidentally leaving it out overnight.. By the morning most of the cover had dissapeared, I assume from dew. Ive never seen such volatile paper before.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 20 December, 2012, 04:20:20 pm
I love them, simply they feel like an exstension of the meg for someone like me who has only been reading the prog for a few years. But of cause that just how I see it.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Darren Stephens on 23 December, 2012, 09:02:26 am
I must admit that on the rare occasions that I do purchase the Meg it's usually only because I want the bagged floppie.

Likewise. I purchased this months Meg, though, as I'm really feeling the loss of thrills in the gap between the Christmas prog and the start of the new year!  :D
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: The Prodigal on 29 December, 2012, 12:41:17 pm
As someone who has only been on the 2000Ad bandwagon since last Christmas I have to say the freebies are very welcome-I probably won't have read the material and as others have said they help justify the hefty price of the meg. Even then I must confess I am not a regular reader.

I get the increasing impression on here that meg readers are a minority of the overall constituency-when i first joined i thought 66% that bought the prog also picked up the meg. What is the situation as a matter of interest?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Grant Goggans on 29 December, 2012, 01:43:10 pm
I wish you guys would quit binning the floppies.  Set them to one side and drop a few at the children's ward of a local hospital instead.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 29 December, 2012, 01:54:12 pm
Set them to one side and drop a few at the children's ward of a local hospital instead.

Kids love Canon Fodder! I certainly did ;)
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Skullmo on 29 December, 2012, 04:20:33 pm
The floppy is the best thing about the Meg. I only buy it for the floppy.

I am a bit disappointed that Finn was started and then halted :-( I really ejoyed re reading this and would like to see the whole thing reprinted!

Personally, I would prefer if the Extreme Edition returned as well. There is some great stuff that I would love to see reprinted which is unlikely to get the GN treatment (Armoured Gideon for example).

Long live the floppy!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: sheldipez on 29 December, 2012, 04:36:27 pm
Just finished 331 and thought the "Disaster 1999" floppy was good dumb fun. The Megazine was a good read too. I think you get a lot of content for the £5.60 coverprice.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 29 December, 2012, 10:17:29 pm
I am a bit disappointed that Finn was started and then halted :-( I really ejoyed re reading this and would like to see the whole thing reprinted!

Yeah but they did a "Vol.1" with Downlode Tales as well - I presume they'll pick Finn up again later!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Skullmo on 29 December, 2012, 10:52:38 pm
I am a bit disappointed that Finn was started and then halted :-( I really ejoyed re reading this and would like to see the whole thing reprinted!

Yeah but they did a "Vol.1" with Downlode Tales as well - I presume they'll pick Finn up again later!

Oh, I don't mind that they did not continue that :D
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Proudhuff on 31 December, 2012, 02:23:15 pm
What are these listed on ebay as? anyone know? had a quick look but couldn't see em
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Skullmo on 01 January, 2013, 01:37:17 pm
If anyone has floppies that they want to get rid of PM me I would gladly take them off your hands and have loads to trade (and could even flash a few creeds).

I have been a subscriber this year, but before that I missed the Strontium Dogs reprints, the Samantha Slade and the Carl Critchlow Flesh Reprints (I prob missed a few others that would interest me too so let me know what you want rid of).

Cheers!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: staticgirl on 09 January, 2013, 11:37:19 am
I really enjoy the floppies and have kept the best ones. Some I've never read before, some are a nostalgic reminder. I would love to see Firekind in there if there's never going to be a tpb version.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Bolt-01 on 09 January, 2013, 11:53:43 am
Static- can't you get hold of the EE reprint of Firekind?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: IndigoPrime on 09 January, 2013, 01:45:22 pm
Still available for three quid on the 2000 AD shop (http://shop.2000adonline.com/products/extreme_editions_issue_8).
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: The Monarch on 11 January, 2013, 08:13:38 pm
.....

i want more downlode tales...rebellions biggest screwup since taking over was leaving those out of their graphic novel run...
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: DrJomster on 12 January, 2013, 11:29:25 pm
They're a great opportunity to see stuff you wouldn't otherwise get a look at.

Support your Meg, good people! 
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Cthulouis on 13 January, 2013, 12:32:56 am
Seeing as it looks unlikely Red Seas is ever going to get collected in a tpb, could we have a few floppies worth of that?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 13 January, 2013, 04:10:46 pm
Seeing as it looks unlikely Red Seas is ever going to get collected in a tpb, could we have a few floppies worth of that?
And the last two Caballistics series please.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Skullmo on 13 January, 2013, 09:32:30 pm
And Time House
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Dodsy on 16 January, 2013, 12:45:08 pm
Am I the only one who would like to see Witch World reprinted? That started shortly after I started collecting 2000AD so it's one thats always stuck with me. Unfortunatly it ended on a mini cliffhanger that never got resolved  :(
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Skullmo on 16 January, 2013, 01:00:59 pm
Am I the only one who would like to see Witch World reprinted? That started shortly after I started collecting 2000AD so it's one thats always stuck with me. Unfortunatly it ended on a mini cliffhanger that never got resolved  :(

They could get Gordon Rennie to write the ending as a text story :D
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: staticgirl on 18 January, 2013, 04:28:21 pm
I didn't know that EE edition existed. Annoyingly, the button for BUY THIS won't work.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: staticgirl on 18 January, 2013, 04:29:27 pm
Oh Hang on it's working now....
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 18 January, 2013, 10:20:40 pm
Oh Hang on it's working now....
....saldy you must have bought 50 issues worth! :lol:
I must get some of those EE at some point.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: The Prodigal on 19 January, 2013, 08:12:02 am
Seeing as it looks unlikely Red Seas is ever going to get collected in a tpb, could we have a few floppies worth of that?

Oooohh yes.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Little_Tengu on 09 February, 2013, 10:13:51 am


I'd prefer to have the option of buying a floppyless Meg (even at the same price)

Well, no disrespect intended, but you can already do that by simply binning the floppy. You don't have to keep them.

but without the "graphic novel" it's a very expensive magazine. The only justification for the regular price hikes is all the free reprint material.

The Megazine by itself is how much exactly? 9-10 Dollars U.S and 5-6 Pounds sterling? I have a hard enough time justifying comics are the current price of $4.00, let alone one that costs five bucks more
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: sheldipez on 09 February, 2013, 11:09:54 am


I'd prefer to have the option of buying a floppyless Meg (even at the same price)

Well, no disrespect intended, but you can already do that by simply binning the floppy. You don't have to keep them.

but without the "graphic novel" it's a very expensive magazine. The only justification for the regular price hikes is all the free reprint material.

The Megazine by itself is how much exactly? 9-10 Dollars U.S and 5-6 Pounds sterling? I have a hard enough time justifying comics are the current price of $4.00, let alone one that costs five bucks more

To be fair US comics are way over priced at $4.00, they're full of adverts during the comic itself and if it's a Marvel release the paper quality is awful (the pages of the latest Superior Spider-Man was actually curling over in my hands because the pages are so bloody thin).
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Little_Tengu on 09 February, 2013, 11:36:46 am


I'd prefer to have the option of buying a floppyless Meg (even at the same price)

Well, no disrespect intended, but you can already do that by simply binning the floppy. You don't have to keep them.

but without the "graphic novel" it's a very expensive magazine. The only justification for the regular price hikes is all the free reprint material.

The Megazine by itself is how much exactly? 9-10 Dollars U.S and 5-6 Pounds sterling? I have a hard enough time justifying comics are the current price of $4.00, let alone one that costs five bucks more

To be fair US comics are way over priced at $4.00, they're full of adverts during the comic itself and if it's a Marvel release the paper quality is awful (the pages of the latest Superior Spider-Man was actually curling over in my hands because the pages are so bloody thin).

It's been well over a decade since I've been into comics and I'm so used to typical newspaper stock that the newer paper is rather disorienting
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: mogzilla on 09 February, 2013, 04:00:53 pm
i like the floppies they do vary in quality though the first few we got was a jock dredd one ,bad manners etc and i enjoyed those and i think they should continue to release the one off dredds as them as its unlikey theyll get a trade , death planet was good i missed it the first time round as i did disater 1990 but that one can stay sunk for me...

weve nagged pleaded and promised roger's mom to tharg for return to armageddon but he aint listening and i would champion the metro dredds to be bundled... you cant please all of the people etc... but at least he's giving us something to get our teeth into.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: judda fett on 09 February, 2013, 05:24:03 pm
I'd second a Metro Dredd collection for the floppies but I would really love a complete Daily Star Dredd phonebook.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Little_Tengu on 09 February, 2013, 06:26:47 pm
I'd second a Metro Dredd collection for the floppies but I would really love a complete Daily Star Dredd phonebook.

Now, see, I'd buy a Meg just for that. Those collected editions of the Daily Star strips are fairly hard to come by these days
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mardroid on 11 February, 2013, 09:08:39 pm
As a relative newbie to 2000 AD (relative in that I've only bee reading it a few years, rather than most of my life like many of you) I welcome the presence of the floppies. A mixed bunch in terms of like/dislike but that's normal anyway for stories.

I particularly liked Downlode Tales from a couple of months back. Recognizable Sinister/Dexter world (although if there was doubt, the title of the strip and the lads actually turning up in a couple of strips was a big giveaway) but the noirish tone was very different and welcome. (I like the tone of Sinister/Dexter too, I just like variety.) I hope they did more that will be collected.

The Savage 'Disaster 1999' one... not so much. It was readable and entertaining in places but wasn't really my cup of tea. I am curious as to Savage's character though. He seems rather different to the version from Savage. Obviously he's been through a lot since then, (death of his wife being the main one.) so this could be put down to character development, but I'm curious if the different authors had a role here. Was the version from Invasion! closer to the current Savage strip?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Dog Deever on 12 February, 2013, 01:42:20 am
there was  a long run of barrel scrapings for a bit, but I've enjoyed Disaster
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: judda fett on 12 February, 2013, 02:22:38 am
I'd second a Metro Dredd collection for the floppies but I would really love a complete Daily Star Dredd phonebook.

Now, see, I'd buy a Meg just for that. Those collected editions of the Daily Star strips are fairly hard to come by these days

Metro Dredds would warrant a floppy as there weren't as many as the Daily Star ones. They would need a phonebook to be done justice.

Id like to see a floppy of star scans, sci fi special stuff and extraneous things that wouldn't make other volumes. A floppy doesnt always need to be strips right?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: glassstanley on 12 February, 2013, 05:05:23 pm
I'd like to see Rogan's run on Strontium Dogs & Durham Red to bring the floppies up to the Durham Red GNs.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: hippynumber1 on 16 February, 2013, 03:39:18 pm
I second this - the floppies did seem to be heading this way but then stopped... Can we have the rest of Strontium Dogs please Tharg?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Richmond Clements on 16 February, 2013, 03:47:05 pm
I've just read the second part of Disaster 1990. It is be no measure what you could possibly call 'good comics', but by Drokk it's entertaining.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Proudhuff on 18 February, 2013, 03:30:13 pm
AHAB works well collected this month too
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mabs on 19 February, 2013, 11:35:49 am
AHAB works well collected this month too

I'd love to hear more thoughts on this months floppy from you guys, either here or in the Meg thread.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: hippynumber1 on 19 February, 2013, 08:47:21 pm
I'd never read it before and quite enjoyed it - 2000AD does Moby Dick.  Mr. Elson's art is beautiful.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mabs on 19 February, 2013, 10:32:30 pm
I'd never read it before and quite enjoyed it - 2000AD does Moby Dick.  Mr. Elson's art is beautiful.

Sounds great! Looking forward to reading it tomorrow!  :D
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mabs on 21 February, 2013, 12:00:59 pm
I wow...that Henry Flint cover is absolutely outstanding!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mabs on 21 February, 2013, 12:04:54 pm
Oh bugger..i thought i was posting on the Meg thread.. :-\

But while i'm here might as well say that this months floppy looks great. Can't wait to get stuck in!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 21 February, 2013, 12:31:18 pm
A.H.A.B read well as a floppy. Neat little story also.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: monsterx on 03 March, 2013, 07:35:22 pm
I love the megazines floppies and I'm really enjoying Pat Mills Finn (really bring him back to 2000ad please), Pan African judges anyone?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mabs on 03 March, 2013, 07:48:48 pm
As i said in my review over at the Megazine thread, i really loved A.H.A.B, if we can regularly get floppies as good as this months one, then i don't mind at all. I know we'll get the odd hiccup but i've generally been pleased with the output of late. And i cannot agree more - i wanna see more Finn!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Proudhuff on 05 March, 2013, 03:02:35 pm
I think some of the stories in the Floppies work really well and hang together better collected, but some of the art is really dated and hard to follow, the mucky colours and oddly drawn boy people can make it all a bit hard on the eyes, still I like the fact that after the meg is done there's a second helping of 2K to be had.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mardroid on 11 March, 2013, 04:53:30 pm
I was glad to see more Downlode tales next month! I liked that first set. (This is my first time reading these.)
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Dandontdare on 11 March, 2013, 05:23:36 pm
still I like the fact that after the meg is done there's a second helping of 2K to be had.

Well put Mr Huff! It's like finding that last broken biscuit wedged at the bottom of the packet.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Tjm86 on 23 March, 2013, 08:01:39 pm
Personally I'm not a massive fan since they are duplicating stuff I already own.  That said I accept it as the price of the meg and the fact that it does introduce new readers to some of the old and almost forgotten back history that is tooth.  I don't think there are any that I have not at least skimmed through before setting aside and have already recycled one batch to pastures new. 

[  I now have about 16 months worth up for grabs if anyone is interested (from 318 on).  Feel free to PM with requests.  All you have to cover is postage. ]
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: newschmoo on 25 March, 2013, 09:46:39 pm
We're getting 2 volumes of Black Light after Downlode Tales and not Finn it seems. I was AWOL for this one first time round. Any good ?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Grant Goggans on 25 March, 2013, 10:14:47 pm
Depends.  Did you enjoy The X Files?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 25 March, 2013, 10:17:38 pm
Never head of Black Light before. What's that all about then?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mabs on 25 March, 2013, 10:24:15 pm
Never head of Black Light before. What's that all about then?

I've been looking online and couldn't really find anything on it, unfortunately. It involves a woman called Emma Paris who must be a secret agent or assassin or something. It's by Dan Abnett; artwork by Steve Yeowell and John Burns. Any other info welcome!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mabs on 25 March, 2013, 10:26:33 pm
Oh, this should of some help!

http://progslog.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/prog-1011-011096.html?m=1
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 25 March, 2013, 10:37:38 pm
Oh, this should of some help!

http://progslog.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/prog-1011-011096.html?m=1


Thanks for that Mabs.  :D
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Grant Goggans on 25 March, 2013, 10:41:07 pm
http://www.2000ad.org/thrillpower/2kad1.html
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mabs on 25 March, 2013, 11:07:18 pm
Oh, this should of some help!

http://progslog.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/prog-1011-011096.html?m=1


Thanks for that Mabs.  :D

No problem, Tim! Sounds quite interesting if you ask me. That said i would love to have seen the second part of Finn much earlier.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: moly on 26 March, 2013, 07:14:59 pm
What about a floppy of all the old funny one page strips they used to do
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: HubertWindell on 27 March, 2013, 01:39:40 pm
Black Light almost became a TV show. A TV pilot was in pre-production (I think). It was years back when the Dredd movies 'Possession' and 'Reckoning' were being spoken about. I seem to recall something about Rogue Trooper and a German production company too.

Googling as I post, I find that the Black Light show is mentioned by a former Tharg here:

http://viciousimagery.blogspot.ie/2007/02/28-days-of-2000-ad-151-dark-bish-op-pt.html

...maybe the Rogue Trooper thing was a dream. I also recall owning a pet unicorn at the time.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: I, Cosh on 27 March, 2013, 07:56:24 pm
That said i would love to have seen the second part of Finn much earlier.
Apologies if you actually know this and I'm teaching my granny how to suck eggs but I think you, and possibly others, are misconstruing the naming of some of the recent floppies.

First we had Disaster 1990 Books 1 and 2. Disaster 1990 was a single story reprinted over two months because of its length.

Then there's Downlode Tales Books 1, 2 and 3. Downlode Tales was a short lived spin off from Sinister/Dexter which was erroneously omitted from that series' TPB line. As is frequently the case with Abnett's writing, it forms a single important storyline but is made up of several shorter stories making it slightly easier to break up and stop people getting bored with the same story appearing every month as they did with Mercy Heights. [Of course, it isn't actually easier as they've had to print one story out of order and the current floppy finishes half way through the last one but hey ho.]

Finn Book 1, on the other hand, is a complete reprint of a single story called Finn Book 1. There are other Finn stories, including one called Finn Book 2 which I'm sure will see the light of day at some point down the line, but it's not quite the same thing as those others.

Again, sorry if you already knew that and just want to see Book 2 reprinted. As an egomaniacal bonus, here's my thoughts on Interventions (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=33711.0), when I read it a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mabs on 27 March, 2013, 09:31:49 pm
Ah, interesting - that i did not know. And might i add, a very informative read in the link too, mate. Thanks for clearing that up.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 02 April, 2013, 10:50:43 am
Did a bit of searching and found a single Cal-Hab Justice story has been reproduced in floppie format. I'm quite keen to look into the series so is it worth asking if the entire run will see reprint?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Frank on 02 April, 2013, 06:23:41 pm
Did a bit of searching and found a single Cal-Hab Justice story has been reproduced in floppie format. I'm quite keen to look into the series so is it worth asking if the entire run will see reprint?

I don't remember it being any good, but if there's one thing this forum's taught me it's that Cal-Hab Justice will be someone's very favourite story of all time. It started off as a whimsical judge from another country story (what if Billy Connolly was a judge?) with nice John Ridgeway art, then turned into some kind of odd psychic drama about corruption, with art which was an acquired taste (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1sErybAqabg/R4MyEnB_xXI/AAAAAAAAABI/u2mrS1uJLO4/s400/brunch+and+poetry.jpg). Maybe I'm just being over-critical because it was Scottish, but it's one of the few stories I can remember starting to skip without reading.

Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Goosegash on 02 April, 2013, 07:22:54 pm
I like the idea of them, but not a huge fan of the format. They always feel a little too...flimsy. When I first heard the Megazine was going to come with a free mini GN every month, I really hoped they'd have proper card covers, like real GNs, but I guess that would've push the price of the Meg up beyond acceptable levels. The Extreme Editions kind of had the same problem, but at least with those they had the benefit of being able to reprint the art at a decent size.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 02 April, 2013, 07:28:48 pm
Did a bit of searching and found a single Cal-Hab Justice story has been reproduced in floppie format. I'm quite keen to look into the series so is it worth asking if the entire run will see reprint?

I don't remember it being any good, but if there's one thing this forum's taught me it's that Cal-Hab Justice will be someone's very favourite story of all time. It started off as a whimsical judge from another country story (what if Billy Connolly was a judge?) with nice John Ridgeway art, then turned into some kind of odd psychic drama about corruption, with art which was an acquired taste (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1sErybAqabg/R4MyEnB_xXI/AAAAAAAAABI/u2mrS1uJLO4/s400/brunch+and+poetry.jpg). Maybe I'm just being over-critical because it was Scottish, but it's one of the few stories I can remember starting to skip without reading.
I do like the sound of it and have a thing for shorter lived and less well known Dredd world titles. Also, heratige is kinda obscuring my thoughts and I might think the concept is pish. Regardless i'd still give it a shot.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 02 April, 2013, 08:10:47 pm
I've just read the second part of Disaster 1990. It is be no measure what you could possibly call 'good comics', but by Drokk it's entertaining.

Sorry, jus t catching up on this thread.

This quote is what the floppies are for if you are an old timer like me. I remember these stories the first time around and my seven year old self loved them.  I know they are not good by today's standards, same way that the original battle star galactica or knight rider are now rubbish.  But I loved them when I were a kid.

As a bonus, if you've never read them then they are a nostalgic info-blast of 2000ad history.

And they keep the Meg viable.

All in all, everyone is a winner.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Proudhuff on 16 April, 2013, 12:48:20 pm
I've just read the second part of Disaster 1990. It is be no measure what you could possibly call 'good comics', but by Drokk it's entertaining.

Sorry, jus t catching up on this thread.

This quote is what the floppies are for if you are an old timer like me. I remember these stories the first time around and my seven year old self loved them.  I know they are not good by today's standards, same way that the original battle star galactica or knight rider are now rubbish.  But I loved them when I were a kid.

As a bonus, if you've never read them then they are a nostalgic info-blast of 2000ad history.

And they keep the Meg viable.

All in all, everyone is a winner.

I'd agree except that Downlode tales seems a drop in class from Invasion 1990
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Colin YNWA on 16 April, 2013, 03:46:50 pm

I'd agree except that Downlode tales seems a drop in class from Invasion 1990

YOU WHAT, I SAY, I SAY YOU WHAT I'll COME UP THERE AND DISASTER 1990 YOUR ASS WITH THAT KINDA TALK PROUDHUFF...

... and breathe....
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Proudhuff on 16 April, 2013, 05:04:55 pm

I'd agree except that Downlode tales seems a drop in class from Invasion 1990

YOU WHAT, I SAY, I SAY YOU WHAT I'll COME UP THERE AND DISASTER 1990 YOUR ASS WITH THAT KINDA TALK PROUDHUFF...

... and breathe....

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42654000/jpg/_42654619_inman_bbcpicgal2.jpg)

Comeaway in, you'll of had yer tea?!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Skullmo on 15 May, 2013, 01:55:37 am
Oh yes!!! I see the zero stories are coming to the floppy soon - I remember loving these!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: michael kennedy on 15 May, 2013, 12:39:52 pm
they need something to justify the price tag.

although i have been enjoying the downlode stories.
which excel whats on offer
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Link Prime on 15 May, 2013, 12:52:27 pm
Oh yes!!! I see the zero stories are coming to the floppy soon - I remember loving these!

As did I.
I wonder if they'll hold up on a re-read 20 odd years later though  :-\
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mabs on 15 May, 2013, 01:00:38 pm
Oh yes!!! I see the zero stories are coming to the floppy soon - I remember loving these!

What are the zero stories if you don't mind me saying? Was it something in the mould of Tharg's 3riller and Futureshock?  :-*
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Recrewt on 15 May, 2013, 01:10:51 pm
That last downlode tales had me laughing my arse off!

It seems to me with each Meg I look at the floppy and think - meh, leave it a week or so and then sit down and read it and I really enjoy it.  I have particularly enjoyed the last couple of downlodes and ahab.

Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Skullmo on 15 May, 2013, 01:56:25 pm
Oh yes!!! I see the zero stories are coming to the floppy soon - I remember loving these!

What are the zero stories if you don't mind me saying? Was it something in the mould of Tharg's 3riller and Futureshock?  :-*

Night Zero:
"Night Zero" (in 2000 AD #607-616, December 1988 - March 1989)
"Beyond Zero" (in 2000 AD #630-634, 645-649 and 665-666, June 1989 - February 1990)
"Lost in Zero" (in 2000 AD Annual 1991, September 1990)
"Below Zero" (in 2000 AD #731-745, May–August 1991)

From memory it was a really well written SF series. I really enjoyed reading them first time around and have been waiting for a reprint!

http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&choice=tanner
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mabs on 15 May, 2013, 02:11:07 pm
Interesting stuff, Skullmo. Thanks!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Colin YNWA on 15 May, 2013, 02:18:20 pm
I read all of the Night Zero stories not that long back. The first two struggled a little, were a bit generic while strangely trying to do too much that was different, but the art was nice. I enjoyed the third series Below Zero a lot more, but alas then it got canned (or whatever its fate was), just as it was getting good.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Greg M. on 15 May, 2013, 05:01:24 pm
I was the other way around - I really liked the first two (particularly the second one, though it may just have picked up some reflected glory from the fact that it was in the prog at the same time as Zenith, Cinnabar and Bisley-era Slaine - what a line-up!) but was not keen at all on the third. The art was indeed consistently good though.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Link Prime on 16 May, 2013, 09:54:07 am
The art was indeed consistently good though.

I really liked Kev Hopgoods art too, and as you mention, coming from that era in 2000AD that was saying something.
Shame he never did much work for the Prog.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Dodsy on 20 May, 2013, 12:57:04 pm
I'm currently going through my back progs with the intention of selling a load and replacing them with the Trades/ "Floppies" of my favs to save some room. A character I'd totally forgotten about but would love to see reprinted in a "floppie" is Rose O'Rion from Pulp Sci-Fi/ her own series.
As far as I can remeber it was a fun thrill. Anyone agree?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Skullmo on 20 May, 2013, 01:36:38 pm
I'm currently going through my back progs with the intention of selling a load and replacing them with the Trades/ "Floppies" of my favs to save some room. A character I'd totally forgotten about but would love to see reprinted in a "floppie" is Rose O'Rion from Pulp Sci-Fi/ her own series.
As far as I can remeber it was a fun thrill. Anyone agree?

It was terrible! :)
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Recrewt on 20 May, 2013, 01:43:26 pm
I'm currently going through my back progs with the intention of selling a load and replacing them with the Trades/ "Floppies" of my favs to save some room. A character I'd totally forgotten about but would love to see reprinted in a "floppie" is Rose O'Rion from Pulp Sci-Fi/ her own series.
As far as I can remeber it was a fun thrill. Anyone agree?
I was looking on the 2000ad org site recently at what floppies had already come out - 'The best of pulp sci-fi' was released with Meg 296.  Not read it myself, so I won't comment on the quality of content!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Dodsy on 20 May, 2013, 08:28:00 pm
I'm currently going through my back progs with the intention of selling a load and replacing them with the Trades/ "Floppies" of my favs to save some room. A character I'd totally forgotten about but would love to see reprinted in a "floppie" is Rose O'Rion from Pulp Sci-Fi/ her own series.
As far as I can remeber it was a fun thrill. Anyone agree?

It was terrible! :)

Was it that bad? I think I remember the first off of being good but could be wrong about the solo series.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Cactus on 31 May, 2013, 08:15:44 am
Next month is Google Car Roadkill. Hurrah!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Dodsy on 04 June, 2013, 12:58:26 pm
Since my last idea was poo-pooed ( :lol: ) how about a Lobster Random collection? I think it was only ever the first series that was collected, it would have to include the series it crossed over with but I can't remeber the name of the top of my head.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 04 June, 2013, 10:23:42 pm
The Vort ;)
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: The Adventurer on 04 June, 2013, 10:33:04 pm
I say it a lot, but its absurd that we haven't had a proper Lobster Random soft cover trade. Also needs another series.

Its too great to be relegated to Meg Floppy status.

Though I would take a complete digital edition. hint hint wink wink
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Dodsy on 05 June, 2013, 12:58:56 pm
I say it a lot, but its absurd that we haven't had a proper Lobster Random soft cover trade. Also needs another series.

Its too great to be relegated to Meg Floppy status.

Though I would take a complete digital edition. hint hint wink wink

Glad I'm not the only one. I'll admint I'd kind of forgotten about Lobster Random until I picked up the first series in hard back from Forbidden Plant in Manchester for £2.50 (That alone probably explains why we haven't seen the other series collected).
Really enjoyed re-reading it and plan to dig out the bag progs to read the rest of the series.
Title: Re: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: sheldipez on 23 July, 2013, 09:44:31 pm
I'm starting to think that most people stick the floppies in the bin going off how many people I've messaged on ebay when trying to fill gaps in my collection.

Getting hold of a complete meg outside of the 2000 ad store is mission impossible.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Simon Beigh on 23 July, 2013, 09:54:21 pm
It's the people that split the floppy from the Meg and sell them separately that gets me. Keep an eye on the classifieds on the forum. I now own every Meg from Volume 5 (201 onwards) and I got them from three different forum members, all of whom included the floppy. They were in fantastic condition and much cheaper than eBay.

I have a spare 331 with floppy if that's of use?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: sheldipez on 23 July, 2013, 10:04:50 pm
It's the people that split the floppy from the Meg and sell them separately that gets me. Keep an eye on the classifieds on the forum. I now own every Meg from Volume 5 (201 onwards) and I got them from three different forum members, all of whom included the floppy. They were in fantastic condition and much cheaper than eBay.

I have a spare 331 with floppy if that's of use?


Splitting floppies! Do people not take heed of the "not for resale" warning?! Tharg will not be pleased. Got 331 cheers for the offer though, I've got a gap of 327 at the mo and as much as it's killing me I've already spent too much on a combination of back issues and bags & boards this month to fill it right now.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Dog Deever on 23 July, 2013, 10:27:51 pm
... Its too great to be relegated to Meg Floppy status...

Whilst I DO understand that view- if the good stuff doesn't get into the floppies, what does that leave for the floppies?
The meh & pish stuff?

If that's the case, and now that the GN line is well and truly improved, might it be an idea to just drop the floppies altogether? I see no point in grinding out the stuff that few liked just to fill a floppy.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Dandontdare on 23 July, 2013, 10:38:27 pm
nah it's still a good idea - there's loads of stuff that just isn't commercially viable for a TPB release, but still has a lot of love amongst the fans - Night Zero being a case in point. I love the fact that this stuff is being given away to Meg readers 'free', sdo new readers get to enjoy old thrills for the first time, and we get a nice nostalgiathrillboost (yes, that IS a  word).

Lobster Random has potential for an actual TPB, but there are still loads of gems in the thrill vaults - Mach 1 and Mach 0 for example.

Sheldipez - I'm no completest, and I'bve gor all the original progs, so which is the 327 floppy? Unless it's a particular favourite, I may be able to part with mine.
Title: Re: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: sheldipez on 23 July, 2013, 10:51:08 pm
327 is Marauder (http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/10/109303/2525513-comic_0001.jpg)

He looks like some weird superhero to me
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Dog Deever on 23 July, 2013, 11:09:54 pm
Well- whilst there have been a few good ones, less than half of mine have been read.
And I recall a substantial price rise upon their inclusion, so they might be cheap, but they sure aren't 'free'.

That's an old argument though- I'm not really caring about new readers getting to read old stuff tbh- I'm more interested in not sticking away a complete comic, completely unread, month after month. This has been especially irritating alongside Sexy Ostriches infinity-arcs, as it means month on month I keep shelling out for very little comic. At it's lowest common denominator, it makes little sense for me.

As I said- there have been a few really good ones I was glad of.
Still preferred Extreme Editions though- I liked the larger format and it allowed for choice- if people didn't like it, they didn't have to buy it which afforded some measure of quality control- apparently proved by the readers voting with their feet over the Mean Arena run of 3 back to back (which pales into insignificance  next to the 4-issue snore-fest that was the Mercy Heights run*). The GN's seem to have removed that option and, for me,  the quality plunged very quickly- leaving me with little I can do about it except either whine about it at every turn or stop getting my Meg.

*I can't help but feel that if this had been done in EE's they would only have gotten half ways through before the title collapsed. A more cynical man might see some sort of corporate dirty trick in there...  ;)
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Dandontdare on 24 July, 2013, 12:54:45 am
the price rise vs floppies argument has been done to death, which is why I put 'free' in inverted commas. The cost saving of not doing the floppies wouldn't reduce the cover price much, or pay for new original strips, so I think it's worthwhile. If they get chucked away unread, donate them to somewhere and spread the word of thrillpower!

Sheldipez - Marauder is a recent strip that I've no particular attachment to, so PM me your address and I'll dig that one out for you.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Dog Deever on 24 July, 2013, 02:28:17 am
Sure- but the real argument gets diverted away from the crux of the matter by bandying about of 'facts' about the economics of it all, when the actual £'s and pence are not the real issue (If they were, I would have stopped buying the Meg by now). If we're talking economics then it would be more sensible for the consumer to save the money they spend on the Meg and buy the good stuff as GN's when they get released. All well and good right up until the Meg goes the way of Extreme Editions...

My viewpoint is merely one of concern for quality. Perfectly simple- 'I would rather see them drop it than fill it with shite, because filling it with shite may affect the Meg's readership figures' is all I'm saying. I can't see any logic in doing that from either Rebellion's POV or the readers. Why reprint the stories that nearly buried the parent comic? The Meg has never had the readership of the weekly- why risk cutting it down by watering the quality of it with Tharg's barrel-scrapings? If Medivac 90210 was worth 4-floppy reprint, why is it not economically viable to do a GN? Because too many people know it's not worth buying, thus sales would be low?
That leaves the choice of either not reprinting it at all, or else forcing current readers to buy it along with their Meg or Prog. The floppies are more in line with the latter choice.

Granted, there are a few of them I would happily have paid way more than £1 for, but there's been soooooo many I wouldn't take off you for free. I just don't understand the argument for choosing the dross over the decent stuff when the cost of reprinting is the same for both. Would you buy a beer with pish in it just because it has a half-pint more fluid and is only 20p more expensive?

Where do we draw the line- before or after Junker, Chronos Carnival, The Mike Fleischer Collection, Blood of Satanus or , god forbid- American Reaper gets floppied? Or are we not to draw a line at all- just buy it, smile and say 'please sir can I have some more pish in my beer'?

There's nothing at all unreasonable in a consumer having concerns over value for money- it's no less reasonable than a commercial company desiring to maximise their profit- these are the balancing factors in any market. I don't think 'make them good, or get rid of them' is a particularly polar viewpoint and it's a perfectly valid one. Whilst it may not be your view personally, there's no merit in tying to brush it aside as nonsense.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Simon Beigh on 24 July, 2013, 06:47:55 am
To mis-quote Forrest Gump - "The Meg floppy is like a box of chocolates...". One man's coffee cream (yuck) is another man's caramel swirl (mmmm - caramel....). I enjoyed AHAB, Night Zero, Marauder and Disaster 1990 to name a few. Others may have detested them all. But I am a returning Squaxx, so have no history with most of them. I also have a dreadful memory for comics, so even something like Disaster 1990 which I probably read the first time round I enjoyed as if it were brand new to me.

I don't think the pish in beer analogy works, Dog. You are saying it pollutes the whole thing. The Meg still carries four strips, interviews and articles. And its the same with every comic anthology, different will people will enjoy the different parts of it - well - differently! Hence the American Reaper "marmite" discussions of late... I much prefer to think of it as the box of chocolates. I always chuck out the coffee creams because they are the work of Satan - others will disagree...
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Colin YNWA on 24 July, 2013, 07:50:34 am

Lobster Random has potential for an actual TPB, but there are still loads of gems in the thrill vaults - Mach 1 and Mach 0 for example.


Yeah and since Si Spurrier is starting to make a name for himself in the States maybe it could get a US release?

...then he'd come back and write us some more too!
Title: Re: Re: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: sheldipez on 24 July, 2013, 09:46:01 am
Sheldipez - Marauder is a recent strip that I've no particular attachment to, so PM me your address and I'll dig that one out for you.


To mis-quote Forrest Gump - "The Meg floppy is like a box of chocolates...". One man's coffee cream (yuck) is another man's caramel swirl (mmmm - caramel....). I enjoyed AHAB, Night Zero, Marauder and Disaster 1990 to name a few. Others may have detested them all. But I am a returning Squaxx, so have no history with most of them. I also have a dreadful memory for comics, so even something like Disaster 1990 which I probably read the first time round I enjoyed as if it were brand new to me.

As a newcomer to 2000ad (early 2012 -I've since caught up with most of 2011) I have to agree. I've read some criticism of the floppy bundled each month often to read it myself and to come away thinking "that was a lot of fun" even when the material has been a bit dumb (the story from this month's for e.g. but some nice art - and a fun ride). Disaster 1990 took a bit of a bit of a battering on here yet I thought it was a nice romp and a nice bit of Savage backstory that would of been too costly to hunt down old progs for.

I see the point of peeps that have been with the prog since the early days, even the beginning (how I envy you) and you automatically think "not THAT strip AGAIN" but as a reader it's really appreciated.

There's a bunch of well received stuff in the prog that struggle to shift a great deal of copies of graphic novels like Red Seas (Dante was even name dropped on the recent ECBT2000AD podcast when asked about Dante case files) so you have to appreciate how much of these b strips would die on their arse.

I guess what I'm saying is that 2000ad has a lot history (mediocre or otherwise) and it's good that it doesn't all die in long time fans' memories or in over priced progs on ebay.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: hippynumber1 on 09 August, 2013, 04:02:28 pm
In short, I would always choose having the 'floppies' over not! I enjoy the cheesy old strips, I like that this stuff is unlikely to get collected otherwise, I'm pleasantly surprised by some of the newer stuff that I haven't read and, ultimately, if I don't like it, there's always next month. I was an EE subscriber and was sorry to see it go, the floppies make up for its absence, and I enjoyed both 'Mean Arena' and 'Mercy Heights'
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mabs on 10 August, 2013, 12:03:35 pm
In short, I would always choose having the 'floppies' over not! I enjoy the cheesy old strips, I like that this stuff is unlikely to get collected otherwise, I'm pleasantly surprised by some of the newer stuff that I haven't read and, ultimately, if I don't like it, there's always next month. I was an EE subscriber and was sorry to see it go, the floppies make up for its absence, and I enjoyed both 'Mean Arena' and 'Mercy Heights'

I concur; I finished Mercy Heights Book 4 last night and I enjoyed it immensly. Some of the artwork on show especially from Kev Walker is outstanding. I'm also reading Tor Cyan right now, again some great stuff from Kev and Colin Wilson. I mean just check out this page from Kev;

(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m560/Nexus-wookie/20130810_115916.jpg)

Wow.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Simon Beigh on 10 August, 2013, 09:35:23 pm
One thing I've noticed on my Meg Odyssey is that's the early Megs had introductions to the stories in the reprint section (called Gold and pre-dating the bundled floppy). I find this enhances my enjoyment of the story, knowing a bit about where it came from, whether it was a follow up to a previous story and so on. As an example, the Slaine Time Killer story that was reprinted talked about the previous Slaine stories and a bit about how Slaine came into being.

In recent Megs, you get chucked in at the deep end a bit. Do I need to have read Nemesis in order to appreciate the Deadlock floppy, for example? If so, a quick synopsis would help new readers like me...
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Skullmo on 10 August, 2013, 10:40:51 pm
I think it would really enhance the floppy to have some context about the story. If the team do not have time to write one I would be happy to research and write one for free to include as I seem to know everything anyway!



I like supporting the Meg, and for me a floppy makes me happy!

Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Proudhuff on 29 August, 2013, 04:34:06 pm

I mean just check out this page from Kev;

(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m560/Nexus-wookie/20130810_115916.jpg)

Wow.

Yeah we need Kev back on Dredd, his post DoC Megacity in the rain would be a doozie!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Goaty on 30 August, 2013, 02:09:55 pm

Love Kev Walker's artworks, one of my fave 2000AD artists, check his Future Shock Red Moon, and one of my fave Dredd stories, Mandroid Book 1.

(http://www.2000adonline.com/books/assets/covers/judge_dredd_mandroid.jpg)

Here a brilliant image from Mandroid by Kev Walker;

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llwekv4Ooc1qi8laso1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Proudhuff on 30 August, 2013, 02:27:56 pm
Has he every done a interrogation in the Meg? don't remember it if he did, but i would like to see him back under Tharg's whip!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Simon Beigh on 30 August, 2013, 03:44:11 pm
Meg 290 according to BARNEY. Thought I had seen it in the big pile I have in my house :)
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Theblazeuk on 17 October, 2013, 10:08:22 pm
I personally love the floppies. Reading Detonator X today and well, after Pacific Rim I am even happier with this strip than I was the first time round. Night Zero was something I'd never come across and it was grand. I even enjoyed Disaster (as hokey as it was in comparison to Savage proper). And Mercy Heights is actually one of my favourite concepts and well, in a muddy way, Tor is what I think Rogue became.

They started just as I got my first megazine and they've been a big part in why I carried on buying it, even when my funds were getting very low. I don't like all of the stuff collected but then the hit rate is much better than the 9 months of DC's new 52 I tried before abandoning them - that was 20+ pages of no thrill power each issue.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Skullmo on 17 October, 2013, 11:19:02 pm
Anyone know what floppies are on the horizon?

They are great - I read night zero last night - a brill story!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: jackstarr on 29 October, 2013, 07:46:31 pm
I seem to be on perpetual catch-up with the Meg - finally read Night Zero - and I *really* enjoyed it - the first time I've enjoyed a bundled floppy in a very long time.

I've been very much "meh" on the bundled floppies for a very long time, both for series I've read before and series that are new to me - but for some rease Night Zero just clicked - some decent old-skool fun.

Just hope the sequel floppy (Beyond Zero) is as much fun!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Skullmo on 29 October, 2013, 08:05:16 pm
I read Disaster 1990 last night - wow, almost every page was a WTF moment! I loved it!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Theblazeuk on 30 October, 2013, 10:24:42 am
Beyond Zero - how does post-apocalyptic pirate zeppelin raiders grab your fancy?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: jackstarr on 30 October, 2013, 10:52:28 am
Beyond Zero - how does post-apocalyptic pirate zeppelin raiders grab your fancy?

Well, if you put it like that...  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Judge Brian on 28 November, 2013, 06:07:02 am
I'm looking forward to reading the Di Marco floppy. Maybe it'll tell me why she was hanging out with the Gorilla that got killed in Trifecta
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Colin YNWA on 28 November, 2013, 06:12:52 am
I'm looking forward to reading the Di Marco floppy. Maybe it'll tell me why she was hanging out with the Gorilla that got killed in Trifecta

There's a DeMarco floppie coming? When is that do we know?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mabs on 28 November, 2013, 08:39:20 am
I'm looking forward to reading the Di Marco floppy. Maybe it'll tell me why she was hanging out with the Gorilla that got killed in Trifecta

There's a DeMarco floppie coming? When is that do we know?

December, with Meg #343!  :)
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Colin YNWA on 28 November, 2013, 11:16:05 am
Cool! Will defo be picking that one up.

See its all in the floppie for me then it seems. A good floppy makes the Meg a great deal. Since I have most of the stuff though its otherwise too expensive for the content. Anyway nice to pick up a copy to re-evaluate that though.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Fungus on 29 November, 2013, 09:36:12 pm
I seem to be on perpetual catch-up with the Meg - finally read Night Zero - and I *really* enjoyed it - the first time I've enjoyed a bundled floppy in a very long time.
It's the exception. And I agree completely. I think the bundled second/third rate stories really need to be humanely nudged towards The Long Walk. Off a Short Pier. I actually resent the time reading these ('cos if I buy it, I WILL read it).
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Skullmo on 29 November, 2013, 11:57:22 pm
well I think they are great!  Not a waste of the and they are what keeps me buying the Meg really!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Fungus on 30 November, 2013, 12:39:23 am
But the Meg's been pretty damn fine recently? No?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Skullmo on 30 November, 2013, 03:11:18 am
It's pretty good - but I do enjoy having a whole story - I don't really like reading stories in parts, having a full (or large chunk of) classic 2000ad tale keeps me going until the various meg series has finished and I read them.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: NapalmKev on 30 November, 2013, 07:15:28 am
Keep the floppy!

If people don't like it they don't have to read it; 'getting rid' of it entirely would be a massive mistake.


Cheers
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mabs on 01 December, 2013, 12:14:36 am
well I think they are great!  Not a waste of the and they are what keeps me buying the Meg really!

Rightly said, Skullmo! I couldn't agree more.  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mabs on 01 December, 2013, 12:16:40 am

If people don't like it they don't have to read it; 'getting rid' of it entirely would be a massive mistake.


^This. Absolutely.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 01 December, 2013, 11:22:41 am
Have they ever done the second book of FINN? I guess that's the only way we are likely to see it in a readable bookshelf format? Or do I have to take scissors to the progs before I chuck them all out?

SBT
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mabs on 01 December, 2013, 11:31:51 am
We're still waiting for the second book. I hope it's not too long before we see it as I loved the first one.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Mardroid on 01 December, 2013, 10:44:18 pm
I like the floppies, but then again I haven't read most of them before.

It was a nice surprise getting Lobster Random this month's. I read it thinking, "Is this the first story?"
Then the next day the Lobster Random volume turned up in a package along with a couple of other books (Necronauts and the first Durham Red collection). I'd forgotten I'd ordered it! So another surprise.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Skullmo on 02 December, 2013, 02:13:56 am
I second more Finn. All books of Finn please oh Meg Gods.

And Timehouse.

And that Adrian Salmon story from the Meg with Shakespeare - I remember that was better than it looked like it was going to be.

And Pandora too :)



Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Dodsy on 03 December, 2013, 12:36:28 pm
I think that is the beauty of the 'floppies' that stuff that would be a hard sell or difficult to re-print on it's own is reaching a new audience who may have missed it the first time around. Hopefully it will also encurage some new stories from some forgotten favs if they are well recieved.
I was really pleased to see the 2nd Lobster story getting a reprint and fingers crossed the rest will soon.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Fungus on 03 December, 2013, 01:52:46 pm
As so often, I find myself in a tiny minority  :o
Just leapt back to the thread's beginnings and yup, these floppy things are popular all over...

Let's keep them!

(I'll revise my 'exception' comment. I've known two. Disaster 1990 and Night Zero were both good fun).
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Dandontdare on 20 December, 2013, 09:18:15 am
In need of something to read this week, I've been revisiting my pile of floppies. Mercy heights was far better than I remembered it when read through in one go, although Tor Cyan was a  bit of a one-note spin-off. One thing struck me though - Tor Cyan must be the WORST shuttle pilot in the galaxy! Every single craft that he pilots over the course of five volumes either blows up, or more usually, crashes into a planet. NEVER FLY WITH THIS MAN!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: NapalmKev on 20 December, 2013, 11:46:12 am
In need of something to read this week, I've been revisiting my pile of floppies. Mercy heights was far better than I remembered it when read through in one go,


My thoughts exactly. I first read Mercy Heights in the Prog and didn't really think much of it. As a collection it stands up pretty well.

Cheers
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Theblazeuk on 27 November, 2014, 01:56:30 pm
A bit of a resurrection but seemed like a good place to say I really enjoyed the latest floppie. Rose O'Rion wasn't a character I'd ever come across and it was good, simple fun.

What was the name of that story where a dwarf and a girl are on a starcruiser and get themselves dumped on a prison planet? Was that Rose too? That was a story that was underway when I started collecting so it's all a bit hazy.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: James Stacey on 27 November, 2014, 01:58:09 pm
Lilly Mackenzie ?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 27 November, 2014, 02:30:54 pm
Lilly Mackenzie ?
Actualy I Was talking to Mr.Fraser on deviantart recently and he said he jntends to continue to second series soon and will hopefully get both stories collected in a trade by....someone.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Proudhuff on 27 November, 2014, 03:45:31 pm
never mind a floppie back issue I wants the new stuff!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Theblazeuk on 27 November, 2014, 03:52:44 pm
Lily Mackenzie, thank you.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Ancient Otter on 29 November, 2014, 10:08:24 pm
Lilly Mackenzie ?
Actualy I Was talking to Mr.Fraser on deviantart recently and he said he jntends to continue to second series soon and will hopefully get both stories collected in a trade by....someone.

Like a certain someone who collected Numbercruncher and Ordinary?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Judge Nutmeg on 29 November, 2014, 11:03:58 pm
keep them in I say, it's probably the only way some of the titles will be reprinted although there has'nt been many i have cared for. I'd like to see brigand doom and luke kirby get reprinted. I doubt there will ever be a complete canon fodder trade paperback so i am glad of them.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: WhizzBang on 30 November, 2014, 09:02:46 am
I am new to the magazine and I love these 'floppies'. I like it that they are one or more complete stories nicely collected and the ones I have found have all been stuff that is new to me. Is there anyway to get hold of back issues of these 'floppies'? I have tried looking on eBay for them but not found anything.

There is a fairly up to date list of them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dredd_Megazine#Supplements (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dredd_Megazine#Supplements)

I would love to get them all.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 01 December, 2014, 12:43:45 pm
Lilly Mackenzie ?
Actualy I Was talking to Mr.Fraser on deviantart recently and he said he jntends to continue to second series soon and will hopefully get both stories collected in a trade by....someone.

Like a certain someone who collected Numbercruncher and Ordinary?
Considering the work Mr.Fraser has done for Titan recently i'd say it's the best bet. Plus, as you point out, it's the stommping ground for collected editions of Meg Creator Owned material.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: QuickQuag on 02 December, 2014, 01:42:26 am
I'd like to add my voice to the argument for finishing off partially-floppied sagas!

The CalHab floppy just landed here in NZ (we missed it for the referendum but it made it here via surface mail just in time for St Andrew's Day!) and, well, it ends just as things get a little more interesting (YMMV of course.)

Will there be any more, or was that subject to the Yes or No vote as well?  ;)
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: The Monarch on 15 December, 2014, 10:32:08 pm
Ohhh boy calhab justice that series started off sonwell...
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Tjm86 on 20 December, 2014, 03:14:07 pm
I am new to the magazine and I love these 'floppies'. I like it that they are one or more complete stories nicely collected and the ones I have found have all been stuff that is new to me. Is there anyway to get hold of back issues of these 'floppies'? I have tried looking on eBay for them but not found anything.

There is a fairly up to date list of them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dredd_Megazine#Supplements (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dredd_Megazine#Supplements)

I would love to get them all.

I've got a track going begging.  Not all but a lot of them.  No use to me as my collection is complete.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: sheridan on 28 January, 2015, 01:24:42 pm
There is a fairly up to date list of them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dredd_Megazine#Supplements (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dredd_Megazine#Supplements)
Even more up-to-date now  ;)
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Keef Monkey on 29 January, 2015, 02:26:15 pm
I enjoy the floppies personally - true, some months are better than others and there have been some I haven't enjoyed at all, but I've always been glad to have had the chance to revisit that stuff.

I read digitally so even if it's a month I don't like it's not like it's taking up any physical space or anything, can't really see any argument against them that makes sense to be honest (particularly if they're not adding to the cost of the Meg in any significant way).
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Theblazeuk on 29 January, 2015, 02:58:11 pm
I'd like to add another vote to sequel-floppies for previously flopped thrills.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Magnetica on 29 January, 2015, 11:19:46 pm
I enjoy the floppies personally - true, some months are better than others and there have been some I haven't enjoyed at all, but I've always been glad to have had the chance to revisit that stuff.

I read digitally so even if it's a month I don't like it's not like it's taking up any physical space or anything, can't really see any argument against them that makes sense to be honest (particularly if they're not adding to the cost of the Meg in any significant way).

Hmmm..I was always thought they did add to the cost. I seem to remember the Meg went up in price when they started. I almost never read them these days as I just don't have the time and I think it is right to say in all the time they have been doing them only once or twice did it feature something I haven't read before - but that goes hand in hand with being a long time reader :)
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Fungus on 29 January, 2015, 11:27:01 pm
Yes, they clearly add to the cover price. I remain in the "graceful exit" camp, but judging from comments that may be the minority and it continues to make sense for Rebellion.

And just wanted to say that for perhaps the 3rd time only, I enjoyed the floppy tonight (titter ye not). Red Fang rattled along and looked great. More Steve Moore, if possible...
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: IndigoPrime on 30 January, 2015, 12:05:18 am
Most of the cost in a publication like the Meg is in the production, not the printing. Get rid of the floppy and the cover price might be able to drop a bit, but it wouldn't be by much, but the effective page count per month would have been knifed.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Jacqusie on 30 January, 2015, 02:38:05 am
Lets face it, the quality has been pretty poor over the last few years in the floppy & I'm feeling a bit disconteded by having only 3-4 new strips in the Meg - the rest filler - while over at 2000ad at least I get 5 for less money!

Ditch the floppy - I'd like the space in the meg to be used for new & upcoming strips & creators like it used to. There is so much more in that direction I feel to better the Meg.

Si
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: NapalmKev on 30 January, 2015, 08:23:29 am
Keep the Floppy!

How about using it (on occasion) to showcase new talent? Sure, they wouldn't get paid much but it could be a chance to see your own work in Print, and maybe lead to bigger and better things in the future. I'd write something and give it for free just to see my name in print as a "Creator".

Yeah, I know; Crap Idea!

Cheers
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 30 January, 2015, 09:34:59 am
From an entirely selfish point of view, I say keep the floppy.  Yes,  it's true that the vast majority get piled up unread,  they do provide an easy source of strips when the mood takes me, without having to lug boxes about and unbag multiple comics, then refile them later.
Red Fang,  for example, has been buzzing around my conscious for a while,  and is now to hand. 

While having a complete set of everything renders any and all reprints an unnecessary luxury both in terms of cost and space,  at this point in my life,  38 years into buying the prog, I may as well embrace the plain fact that these things are essential to me,  and just go with it. 

The lack of FINN volume two,  however,  is a continual source of frustration.

SBT
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Molch-R on 30 January, 2015, 09:47:54 am
Yes, they clearly add to the cover price.

They don't. They were brought in to give added value to the magazine when the price had to rise due to rising production costs. Getting rid of the 'floppy' GN wouldn't bring the price down beyond a couple of pence.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Molch-R on 30 January, 2015, 09:49:02 am
How about using it (on occasion) to showcase new talent?

That was tried for a period and unfortunately could not be sustained.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Skullmo on 30 January, 2015, 10:37:30 am
Yes, they clearly add to the cover price.

They don't. They were brought in to give added value to the magazine when the price had to rise due to rising production costs. Getting rid of the 'floppy' GN wouldn't bring the price down beyond a couple of pence.

Whether they add to the price or not they definitely add value to the package and are one of the main reasons I get the Meg as I really prefer to read a story in one book - it means every meg you get a complete tale. I think they are a great thing, even when there are issues I don't necessarily like that much I understand that taste is a subjective thing and my passion may be another person's poison.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Theblazeuk on 30 January, 2015, 12:55:50 pm
I have been reading 2000AD regularly for years, had access to a huge back catalogue of the Megs for a few months, and would always get anything from the House of Tharg when I saw it in the library. Oh and my dad had scattered copies of Eagle, american reprints et al in the loft.


I still haven't read 99% of the strips featured in the floppies. What I'm saying is I'm not a new reader by any definition but they add huge value for me, and were a big part of my decision to start getting the Meg as well as the prog in those early days (Which coincided with their launch as a regular thing).
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Magnetica on 30 January, 2015, 04:57:41 pm
Yes, they clearly add to the cover price.

They don't. They were brought in to give added value to the magazine when the price had to rise due to rising production costs. Getting rid of the 'floppy' GN wouldn't bring the price down beyond a couple of pence.

Thanks for clearing that up - it is good to get the definitive word from one of Tharg's droids.

I had always assumed that the floppies had increased the cover price as Meg 274 was £2.99 and 275 was £4.99 and that was when the first floppy appeared, so it is good to know they don't.

As I said I don't often read them, buy hey given that they don't increase the cover price, then for me that is the end of the argument - may as well keep them.

And can I add my vote for more Finn - I would read that. Or SinDex.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: sheridan on 31 January, 2015, 02:09:12 am
I have every:
- every prog
- every meg
- Starlord
- Crisis
- Revolver
- Lawman of the Future
very nearly every:
- Sci-fi/Winter/Mega-special
- annual
one or two copies of:
- Tornado
In short, I have just about every story which Rebellion has the rights to reprint.

Despite this, and even though I live in a typical London-sized flat and don't have a whole lot of space, I do not object to seeing the floppy every month (not even Fleisher's Harlem Heroes - though I can think of a hundred things that should have been republished first). As others have said, it's nice to be able to read a whole story each month without having to dig through ten or more comic bags in far-off boxes.

As for things I'd like to see again (which I don't think have been collected in recent graphic novels):
- a collection of Future Shocks, especially from the first decade
- I'd request the Stainless Steel Rat, but I'm guessing the estate of Harry Harrison would have something to say about that?
- some of the Tharg stories (Invasion of the Thrill-Snatchers stands out in my memory, but the box it's in is buried pretty deep at the mo, so I can't easily check)
- Ace Trucking Co
- Max Normal (not sure how many strips all those annuals and specials appearances would add up to)
- Helltrekkers
- some of the Diceman / Dice Man strips
- Metalzoic
- Luke Kirby
- another vote to complete Finn
- Revere
- finish off Calhab Justice

That should be enough to be going on with :-)
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Jacqusie on 31 January, 2015, 03:26:31 am
One BIG vote for a truck load of Ace Trucking Co, that would go down well when having to shell out my bimms.


Rever is a no brainer for me- it should be way up there too!

Si
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: TordelBack on 31 January, 2015, 08:03:10 am
Is all of Ace Trucking not in the two case files? Admittedly it'd be nice to see the annual story in colour, but beyond that..?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 31 January, 2015, 09:54:00 am
I love the floppies even if I don't always read them

I get the Meg to read the Meg. The floppy is an added extra. It's like a lucky bag. I open up the Meg and think "I wonder what the floppy is", then am either pleasantly surprised or not. I'm never disappointed, as I don't expect anything.

That sounds like I'm damning with faint praise. I don't mean to do that. What I am getting at is that this is extra material - the cherry on top, the buscuit at the side - and if you don't like it then that's fine, as you didn't get the cake/ tea for the decoration.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: sheridan on 31 January, 2015, 11:40:50 am
Is all of Ace Trucking not in the two case files? Admittedly it'd be nice to see the annual story in colour, but beyond that..?
Ace Trucking Co Volume One was (first) published seven years ago - I don't know how available that makes it presently?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: sheridan on 31 January, 2015, 11:42:00 am
Is all of Ace Trucking not in the two case files? Admittedly it'd be nice to see the annual story in colour, but beyond that..?
Ace Trucking Co Volume One was (first) published seven years ago - I don't know how available that makes it presently?
Oops - had a link all lined up and everything, then forgot to paste it:
http://www.2000adonline.com/books/ace-trucking-the-complete-vol-1.php
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Skullmo on 31 January, 2015, 11:43:13 am
Is all of Ace Trucking not in the two case files? Admittedly it'd be nice to see the annual story in colour, but beyond that..?
Ace Trucking Co Volume One was (first) published seven years ago - I don't know how available that makes it presently?

Lets imagine you were a magician who could make things happen with a swish of your hand - would you prefer them to reprint it over multiple floppies? Or just reprint the Ace Trucking Volume 1?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: ZenArcade on 31 January, 2015, 11:52:58 am
You can never get enough of the Big A comin' back at ya. Z
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: sheridan on 31 January, 2015, 11:54:30 am
Is all of Ace Trucking not in the two case files? Admittedly it'd be nice to see the annual story in colour, but beyond that..?
Ace Trucking Co Volume One was (first) published seven years ago - I don't know how available that makes it presently?

Lets imagine you were a magician who could make things happen with a swish of your hand - would you prefer them to reprint it over multiple floppies? Or just reprint the Ace Trucking Volume 1?

Personally I don't have space for bound reprints unless there's compelling bonus material included (like the 30 Years of Laughter Slaine book that came out). I may venture to my local library at some point to see if they have a copy of Ace to read, but I don't have the shelf space to buy a permanent copy. I don't throw away floppies (or give them to doctor's waiting rooms) but they're easier to store than graphic novels.  So speaking very personally I'd prefer them in floppies.
My list of suggestions was more series I liked that I think should get a wider audience than those in my position where I've read them all before and have them (sort-of) to hand.
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Post by: TordelBack on 31 January, 2015, 12:04:11 pm
...but they're easier to store than graphic novels.

Personally I find storage is one of the big pluses of GN's over piles of slippery-covered magazines.  However, I am not ever going to be against seeing more Ace Trucking Co reprints, I think it's a brilliant series, made more so by the near-impossibility of ever getting a decent revival (not even Al Ewing and Boo Cook would manage it), and deserves a wider audience. 
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Post by: Skullmo on 31 January, 2015, 12:10:56 pm
I am against more Ace reprints. yes, it's a great series but if you want to read it you have many options to see it - best of 2000ad, case files.

I would like to see new stories in the floppies.
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Post by: ZenArcade on 31 January, 2015, 12:15:31 pm
Guy Adams is doing a super job on Ulysses Sweet; but who could ever replace the amazing and much missed Massimo? Z
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Post by: Magnetica on 31 January, 2015, 12:24:12 pm
Zen - spot on.   As I recall there was (possibly) only one episode / story not drawn by Massimo (Ian Gibson did it I think) , so to me Massimo is so synonymous with Ace Trucking it would be strange to say the least to see someone else drawing it.

Now I have said I generally don't read floppies but I would read them if they had Sinister Dexter, Ace Trucking or Finn in them.

Although I don't read them, I do keep them, so storage wise I would prefer Ace Trucking in multiple floppies rather than a "case files" type release.

Basically given that the floppies are here to stay, lets have the good stuff I say.

(If we keep mentioning Finn do you think it will happen?) :lol:
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Post by: IndigoPrime on 31 January, 2015, 02:56:20 pm
I wouldn't want to see any more Ace Trucking without Massimo. Of other artists who've worked for 2000 AD, Boo Cook could probably pull the strip off, but it just wouldn't be the same.

On sheridan's list:

- a collection of Future Shocks — Nice idea. I'd happily devour collections of these.
- Stainless Steel Rat — Rights issues.
- some of the Tharg stories — Oh, man. I remember when I subbed to Best of 2000 AD and they did a Tharg issue. Calling it a nadir for that run is probably being very kind. Reading it was just painful—and that was when I was young too.
- Max Normal — Could be a nice themed thing, but I wonder if that'll be in the MC…
- Helltrekkers — That was reprinted in the Meg itself at some point, wasn't it?
- Diceman / Dice Man strips — That could be interesting, if they fit.
- Metalzoic — Owned by DC, not Rebellion.
- Luke Kirby — In rights hell, otherwise this would have happened LONG ago.
- Finn — I can't stand later Finn, but would agree this should be continued.
- Revere — I wouldn't complain about another outing for this, given that it's unlikely to ever get a trade.
- Calhab Justice — Again, not a fan, but wouldn't complain about more.
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Personally, I'd like to see Armoured Gideon continued, too. That went a bit off the boil later on, but that first floppy was a lot of fun, and the series was certainly a lot better than the likes of Harlem bloody Heroes.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Skullmo on 31 January, 2015, 03:10:09 pm


- a collection of Future Shocks — Nice idea. I'd happily devour collections of these.
Yeah - me too

- Stainless Steel Rat — Rights issues.
Didnt that all get reprinted in the SSR book?

- some of the Tharg stories — Oh, man. I remember when I subbed to Best of 2000 AD and they did a Tharg issue. Calling it a nadir for that run is probably being very kind. Reading it was just painful—and that was when I was young too.

Agreed

- Revere — I wouldn't complain about another outing for this, given that it's unlikely to ever get a trade.

But  . . .  you can just but an extreme edition with it in from the 2000ad shop!


Personally, I'd like to see Armoured Gideon continued, too. That went a bit off the boil later on, but that first floppy was a lot of fun, and the series was certainly a lot better than the likes of Harlem bloody Heroes.

I really liked the later Armoured Gideon and would love to see it
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: sheridan on 31 January, 2015, 03:22:38 pm
Personally, I'd like to see Armoured Gideon continued, too. That went a bit off the boil later on, but that first floppy was a lot of fun, and the series was certainly a lot better than the likes of Harlem bloody Heroes.
Nice one - I didn't like Simon Jacobs art when it first appeared, but it developed really quickly into something I did like.
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Post by: Jacqusie on 31 January, 2015, 08:20:09 pm
Hows about the later Rogue Trooper - reissued in a chronological order so we might be able to understand what happened & it all meant?

*stop laughing at the back there...*

 :lol:
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Post by: Dodsy on 03 February, 2015, 12:58:49 pm
I hope they hurry up and finish Lobster Random soon! I honestly can't remeber if that thrill got a proper ending or is it one of those 'left in limbo' strips?
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Post by: Dark Jimbo on 03 February, 2015, 01:21:27 pm
I hope they hurry up and finish Lobster Random soon! I honestly can't remeber if that thrill got a proper ending or is it one of those 'left in limbo' strips?

It stopped just as all the pieces were in place for the big, final story it had clearly been preparing for since the beginning. The evil Lobster-God chap broke through into our dimension, heralding many apocalyptic shenanigans.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Skullmo on 03 February, 2015, 01:22:05 pm
Why? :(
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Post by: Goaty on 03 February, 2015, 01:30:32 pm
The highlight of it was The Vort - one of best twists in 2000AD!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 05 February, 2015, 09:27:48 am
I can't agree with you there, I'm afraid, Goaty.  It had already been done twice and to far better effect with Dredd and Sinister Dexter (although the latter never really capitalised on it, in my book).
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Post by: Jacqusie on 06 February, 2015, 03:38:00 am
I enjoyed The Vort for what it was - a bloody good story... then they had to ruin it and it be about Lob... which I cannot read to save my life...
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Post by: Dodsy on 06 February, 2015, 12:37:13 pm
Slightly off topic but is there any word of is Si intends to finish Lobster at any point?
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Post by: Colin YNWA on 06 February, 2015, 01:21:46 pm
Slightly off topic but is there any word of is Si intends to finish Lobster at any point?

I asked him about that a couple of years ago now (gulp is it really that long ago) and he said he'd love to as he was very conscious that he rather left us all dangling. Alas at that point he couldn't give any idea of when as he was so busy writing for the American market.

So we're best to hope that he starts to bomb terribly over there and a broken man he has to come crawling back to Tharg begging him to have mercy and take him back on board...

... what how is that selfish?
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Post by: Greg M. on 06 February, 2015, 01:28:09 pm
So we're best to hope that he starts to bomb terribly over there and a broken man he has to come crawling back to Tharg begging him to have mercy and take him back on board...

Given the number of folk on CBR who want Spurrier to be given the keys to the X-kingdom, now that Bendis is moving on, I wouldn't hold my breath. (Though I reckon it'll go to Remender.)
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Post by: Link Prime on 06 February, 2015, 03:05:47 pm
So we're best to hope that he starts to bomb terribly over there and a broken man he has to come crawling back to Tharg begging him to have mercy and take him back on board...

Given the number of folk on CBR who want Spurrier to be given the keys to the X-kingdom, now that Bendis is moving on, I wouldn't hold my breath. (Though I reckon it'll go to Remender.)

I'm hoping for Al Ewing, or the return of Kieron Gillen. Or both.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Greg M. on 06 February, 2015, 03:18:19 pm
I'm hoping for Al Ewing, or the return of Kieron Gillen. Or both.

Gillen I'd be more than happy with. Haven't enjoyed Al's Avengers work as much as I'd hoped, though there've been highlights - I find there's a slightly arch quality to his Marvel writing that, to me, suits 2000AD better than it does Big Two titles.
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Post by: Theblazeuk on 08 February, 2015, 09:11:10 pm
Has Kieron ever done owt for Tharg?

Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Link Prime on 09 February, 2015, 10:36:23 am
Has Kieron ever done owt for Tharg?

Unfortunately, never.

And Greg- I take your point about Ewing. I did read a couples of issue of his Avengers stuff, and didn't really like it.
But I chalked that down to a general dislike of The Avengers / current Marvel than anything else.

He could be good- nay great, on an X title.

Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 February, 2015, 12:40:20 pm
So next month's floppy is… Harlem Heroes, volume 2. Man, what did we all do to piss Tharg off so much? *resolves not to complain so much about sexy ostriches next time it's in the Meg* *maybe*
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Post by: ZenArcade on 14 February, 2015, 01:04:53 pm
My reservations about the usefulness of the floppies is compounded: unless they print Junker! Z :-\ scurries off....
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Post by: Dandontdare on 16 February, 2015, 02:41:19 pm
I've been surprised by how often a strip I remember as being awful isn't actually too bad when revisited through the floppies.

I have to report that Harlem Heroes (redux) is not one of them.
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Post by: robert_ellis on 21 February, 2015, 04:00:42 pm
It's great to see the Steve Dillon layouts even if the inking doesn't reproduce too well shrunk down on Harlem Heroes. I'm all for a Junker reprint - it's daft and a throwback with lovely art. And a good reminder from tharg of how amazing the prog is NOW.
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Post by: Zenith 666 on 21 February, 2015, 05:13:54 pm
Universal soldier and Kelly's eye for Brett seeing as neither have been reprinted.
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Post by: I, Cosh on 21 February, 2015, 05:20:02 pm
Remember quite enjoying Universal Soldier, but wasn't that Will Simpson?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Zenith 666 on 21 February, 2015, 05:26:15 pm
Will Simpson did the original series.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: robert_ellis on 22 February, 2015, 09:56:45 am
Not sure Kelly or universal soldier would show Brett at his finest. I'd rather see a collection of his Dredd short stories.
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Post by: Zenith 666 on 22 February, 2015, 10:56:15 am
Floppies tend to be for unpublished works that's why I mentioned them and I think universal soldier was great.
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Post by: Zenith 666 on 22 February, 2015, 10:57:31 am
Unpublished ? I should have said never reprinted.
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Post by: sheridan on 22 February, 2015, 12:20:43 pm
Or at least rarely reprinted - looks like the current story did get a showing in a Fleetway / Quality reprint about twenty years ago...
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Post by: SmallBlueThing on 22 February, 2015, 12:33:48 pm
So,  two Harlem Heroes volumes but no Finn book two or Bonjo From Beyond The Stars/ Dash Decent? 

Do I hear green,  drunken-on-polystyrene cackling and see the shadow of alien fingers flicking Vs? 

SBT
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Post by: hippynumber1 on 22 February, 2015, 12:37:05 pm
Universal soldier and Kelly's eye for Brett seeing as neither have been reprinted.

I believe there was a copyright issue with Kelly's Eye in that Fleetway (or whoever owned our beloved Prog at the time) thought they owned rights to the character but didn't! Oops!  :-\
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Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 22 February, 2015, 03:04:31 pm
As posted elsewhere, I really enjoyed the HH reboot at the time. And, on re-reading it in the floppy, I really enjoyed it all over again.
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Post by: Colin Zeal on 23 February, 2015, 02:08:40 pm
My copy of the HH floppy has already been chucked in a box unread. I enjoyed the artwork in the story but my real problem with it was how long it dragged on for. It could easily have been done in about half the time but seemed to go on interminably.
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Post by: sheridan on 01 April, 2015, 11:15:55 pm
Although I have it in boxes somewhere, the current return of pre-Apocalypse War Orlok in the pages of 2000AD could be complimented by a re-print of The Inspectre...
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: staticgirl on 18 April, 2015, 03:41:22 pm
I am one of the few that likes the Harlem Heroes reprint. It dates back to my earliest times reading 2000AD, I think I started partway through the HH story and Steve and Kev's art had a big influence on me at the time.

I also liked the Black Siddha reprint more than expected. I thought it would be a bit like when the ABC Warriors developed an interest in Khaos Magic and started faffing about a bit but Black Siddha had lots of jokes in it.
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Post by: sheridan on 20 April, 2015, 05:44:02 pm
So,  two Harlem Heroes volumes but no Finn book two or Bonjo From Beyond The Stars/ Dash Decent? 

Do I hear green,  drunken-on-polystyrene cackling and see the shadow of alien fingers flicking Vs? 

SBT


I liked Dash Decent (Bonjo not so much) - bung those two in a collection, put in a few of the other pre-520 one-pagers (has Sooner or Later been reprinted?)...
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Post by: BPP on 04 May, 2015, 01:38:23 pm

I liked Dash Decent (Bonjo not so much) - bung those two in a collection, put in a few of the other pre-520 one-pagers (has Sooner or Later been reprinted?)...

It's in The Best of Milligan & McCarthy.
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Post by: JudgeOiNK! on 06 May, 2015, 11:56:55 am
I am one of the few that likes the Harlem Heroes reprint. It dates back to my earliest times reading 2000AD, I think I started partway through the HH story and Steve and Kev's art had a big influence on me at the time.

I also liked the Black Siddha reprint more than expected. I thought it would be a bit like when the ABC Warriors developed an interest in Khaos Magic and started faffing about a bit but Black Siddha had lots of jokes in it.

Black Siddha didn't really grip me but I was really enjoying the Harlem Heroes.  I'd read the first few chapters of the original in the Best of 2000 AD book recently so was intrigued by a "reboot" as it was described.  This turned to horror when it seemed it was in name only.  But then I found out really it was a sequel in a way, it wasn't trying to reboot it at all, these were new characters using the same name in the same universe as the originals, and I really enjoyed it.  Though it is a bit annoying to have got two full floppies and now just a few chapters a month.  Couldn't we have had a third volume to finish it all off neatly?
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Post by: glassstanley on 16 May, 2015, 12:10:18 pm
Would have been nice to have had these last HH chapters in one volume. Great choice for this month's floppy and really pleased to see Finn Book Two is due next month. Lot of love for the floppy from me :)
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Post by: The Monarch on 18 May, 2015, 06:20:31 pm
Harlem heroes is like herpes...its spreading to good floppies
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: James Stacey on 19 May, 2015, 12:55:00 pm
So when are we getting an American Reaper floppy
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: The Monarch on 19 May, 2015, 02:22:13 pm
Never we all know reguardless of whether its liked or not it'll get the hardback treatment
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Post by: Skullmo on 19 May, 2015, 02:36:05 pm
I would buy a hardback American Reaper - it's nice to see something new and not a rehash of past glories
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Post by: Hawkmumbler on 19 May, 2015, 02:54:31 pm
I'd sooner burn money in front of a homeless person than spend money on a Sexy Ostritches collection.
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Post by: Fungus on 19 May, 2015, 04:35:58 pm
Reading sucks, waiting for the movie (http://www.comingsoon.net/movie/american-reaper).
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Post by: NapalmKev on 19 May, 2015, 04:37:20 pm
I would buy a hardback American Reaper - it's nice to see something new and not a rehash of past glories

I'd buy one. A Bookplate edition with art print would be nice.

Cheers
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Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 19 May, 2015, 07:49:16 pm
I like them.

I had no recollection at all of Interceptor and enjoyed it.

Was there a sequel?
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Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 May, 2015, 08:58:04 am
Nope.
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Post by: Taryn Tailz on 03 August, 2016, 03:52:35 pm
I'd really love for the floppy to collect the complete 'Necrophim' one day.

I know it divided opinion somewhat, but it was right up my street. Unfortunately I only got to read the final story of the three, so I'm crying out for a collection.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: IndigoPrime on 03 August, 2016, 04:35:15 pm
I'd like more Armoured Gideon. Or a digital collection. Or a lovely hardback that probably only I would actually buy.
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Post by: Dark Jimbo on 03 August, 2016, 06:57:40 pm
I'd like more Armoured Gideon. Or a digital collection. Or a lovely hardback that probably only I would actually buy.

Ooh! Ooh! No, I'd buy the shit out of an AG hardback!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: moly on 03 August, 2016, 07:44:07 pm
Put me down for a AG collection would love to see it
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Post by: IndigoPrime on 03 August, 2016, 08:50:34 pm
Three copies! C'MON!
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Post by: Hawkmumbler on 03 August, 2016, 09:01:33 pm
Four because I fuckin'm love Armoured Gideon!!!
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: TordelBack on 03 August, 2016, 09:38:32 pm
I'm catching up on the Meg at the minute, and I've found the floppies an unexpected treat. Getting Lobster Random, Freaks, Tyranny Rex, Synammon, even Black Siddha, and now the very beginnings of the Moses mega-arc in Sinister Dexter has been brilliant. They've also upper my enthusiasm for 'proper' collections of same.  Sure, there has been a lot of unmitigated crap, but no-one's forcing me to even open those ones (although I do).
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Post by: abelardsnazz on 03 August, 2016, 10:26:10 pm
A high five for AG. Franqweitz gets my vote every time.
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Post by: Link Prime on 03 August, 2016, 11:43:37 pm
Giant demonic cyborgs, Shako the polar bear and Michelle Pfeiffer- what more could you want?

Gorgeous artwork (both B&W and painted) by the criminally underrated Simon Jacob too.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: James Stacey on 04 August, 2016, 09:34:08 am
Whats not to love about Armoured Gideon ? I'd buy the shit out of a shiny hardback
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: IndigoPrime on 04 August, 2016, 10:40:02 am
Whats not to love about Armoured Gideon ?
Indeed.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqkMyjTCYAAQFFL.jpg)
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Post by: NapalmKev on 04 August, 2016, 10:41:22 am
I'd like to see an Armoured Gideon hardback as well. Get it sorted, Tharg!

Cheers
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Post by: The Monarch on 04 August, 2016, 07:19:57 pm
I would do terrible things to get ag in print especially the utterly bonkers one where he teams up with bill savage to fight shako the polar bear
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 04 August, 2016, 09:06:25 pm
Armoured Gideon certainly seems to be a more popular choice than my Necrophim. :P
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Post by: Hawkmumbler on 04 August, 2016, 09:16:46 pm
I would do terrible things to get ag in print especially the utterly bonkers one where he teams up with bill savage to fight shako the polar bear
Man, thats the funniest thing! I've never read said story, but the very idea of it has sparked something in my soul for 5 years, it's like the most obscure of the 2000AD team ups.
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Post by: The Monarch on 04 August, 2016, 10:28:41 pm
Its definatly a weird one had a lot of early 2000ad characters in it if i recall angel and mach 0 played a role in it too and ants lots of ants
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: NapalmKev on 05 August, 2016, 07:56:11 am
Armoured Gideon certainly seems to be a more popular choice than my Necrophim. :P

I returned to the Prog just as the last series of Necrophim was drawing to a close. I thought it quite good (from the small amount I read) and would like to see it collected in some form.

Cheers
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Post by: Skullmo on 05 August, 2016, 08:33:20 am
AG for me too - the first story has been reprinted a few times but not the later ones
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Post by: Link Prime on 05 August, 2016, 10:14:21 am
I would do terrible things to get ag in print especially the utterly bonkers one where he teams up with bill savage to fight shako the polar bear

For random 2000AD cameos, it pre-dated Ennis' Helter Skelter by a few years.

Very enjoyable story, and as noted by Skullmo, I don't think it was ever reprinted.
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Post by: Dodsy on 05 August, 2016, 01:12:23 pm
now the very beginnings of the Moses mega-arc in Sinister Dexter has been brilliant.

Have the floppies reprinted this run? I may have to have a look into this....

For random 2000AD cameos, it pre-dated Ennis' Helter Skelter by a few years.

Very enjoyable story, and as noted by Skullmo, I don't think it was ever reprinted.

Helter Skelter was almost definitely reprinted as a trade. Not sure available it currently is tho.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Link Prime on 05 August, 2016, 01:36:42 pm
For random 2000AD cameos, it pre-dated Ennis' Helter Skelter by a few years.

Very enjoyable story, and as noted by Skullmo, I don't think it was ever reprinted.

Helter Skelter was almost definitely reprinted as a trade. Not sure available it currently is tho.

Ah yeah, I was just referencing the fact that both Helter Skelter and Armoured Gideon: The Collector both featured random cameos from 2000AD characters not normally associated with either strip.
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Post by: Colin Zeal on 05 August, 2016, 02:54:39 pm
I really enjoyed Necrophim and would like to see it collected. I don't remember it being that popular on here though.

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Post by: TordelBack on 05 August, 2016, 03:51:33 pm
now the very beginnings of the Moses mega-arc in Sinister Dexter has been brilliant.

Have the floppies reprinted this run? I may have to have a look into this..

Most recent Meg floppy reprints the Kal Kutter stuff, which is where one Moses makes his covert return. It's great stuff - and continues next month.
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Post by: The Monarch on 05 August, 2016, 05:30:26 pm
The early moses war stuff is being reprinted in floppies starting the latest issue and running in at least the next two
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Post by: Taryn Tailz on 05 August, 2016, 06:19:14 pm
As well as Necrophim, the final run of Caballistics Inc would be nice. I know there's not enough for a third trade, so I'd love to get a floppy to round out the collection.
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: TordelBack on 05 August, 2016, 07:11:29 pm
As well as Necrophim, the final run of Caballistics Inc would be nice. I know there's not enough for a third trade, so I'd love to get a floppy to round out the collection.

Not likely when Tharg is flogging the full series in digital format (tempted).
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Colin YNWA on 06 August, 2016, 09:27:34 pm
I enjoyed Necrophim a lot more than many as memory serves. Reckon it'll get a floppy at some point. Probably not a trade?
Title: Re: Lack of love for the bundled "floppies"?
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 06 August, 2016, 11:36:59 pm
I enjoyed Necrophim a lot more than many as memory serves. Reckon it'll get a floppy at some point. Probably not a trade?

I'd pick up either, but I feel floppies are much more likely than a trade.
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Post by: terryworld on 07 August, 2016, 09:51:26 am
please please please Tharg, can we have a MACH ZERO floppy?

i'm going to undertake a course on custom book-binding and i want to make my own "2000AD Year 1" year 2 year 3 etc hardcovers. need mach 0 to be able to do this.
splundig etc
 
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Post by: Skullmo on 07 August, 2016, 07:27:02 pm
please please please Tharg, can we have a MACH ZERO floppy?

i'm going to undertake a course on custom book-binding and i want to make my own "2000AD Year 1" year 2 year 3 etc hardcovers. need mach 0 to be able to do this.
splundig etc

Didnt that all get reprinted in an extreme?
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Post by: Skullmo on 07 August, 2016, 07:27:22 pm
Timehouse would make a good floppy
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Post by: terryworld on 08 August, 2016, 03:44:34 am
while MOST (but not all) of MACH 1 got reprinted in 2 extreme editions, MACH ZERO didn't get the treatment. would love to see the unreprinted MACH 1 stories along with the MACH ZERO stories bundled in a floppy.
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Post by: Richard on 09 August, 2016, 08:47:47 pm
The first MACH Zero story was awful, one of the worst stories in the history of the comic. It doesn't ever need to see the light of day again. But the other two stories were very good. They should be included in any future MACH 1 collection. Or a floppy.
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Post by: Colin YNWA on 09 August, 2016, 09:28:36 pm
The first MACH Zero story was awful, one of the worst stories in the history of the comic.

Wow really I've just re-read it (assuming you don't mean the M.A.C.H. 1 appearance) and its brilliant stuff, absolutely great. Dark and mysterious creepy and immense fun. Added to my a crazy wonderful villain its a bit of a forgotten masterpiece if you ask me.
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Post by: Dandontdare on 10 August, 2016, 12:51:09 pm
can someone jog my memory as to the order of the Mach 0 stories?- I remember the one with the gang of tramps, and the one where he was  railway porter, but I can't remember where they came in the ongoing narrative. Wasn't "The Suit" a Mach 0 story too? (I absolutely adored that iconic cover (http://www.2000ad.org/functions/cover.php?choice=73&Comic=2000ad))
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Post by: Colin YNWA on 10 August, 2016, 06:05:57 pm
can someone jog my memory as to the order of the Mach 0 stories?- I remember the one with the gang of tramps, and the one where he was  railway porter, but I can't remember where they came in the ongoing narrative. Wasn't "The Suit" a Mach 0 story too? (I absolutely adored that iconic cover (http://www.2000ad.org/functions/cover.php?choice=73&Comic=2000ad))

http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&Comic=2000AD&choice=MACH0 (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&Comic=2000AD&choice=MACH0)

The first story he appeared in was M.A.CH. 1 where the two strap.

'Cousin George' is the first M.A.CH. 0 story proper (i.e. in his own series) and is the one featuring the army of tramps - wonderful stuff

The 'The Suit' followed by BIG break and the final story almost 100 pros later, which I guess has him as a porter?
 
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Post by: Magnetica on 11 August, 2016, 09:26:59 pm
I would like to see the early Mach Zero stories and the Mach One stories that haven't been reprinted as I haven't read them and they along with a few early future shocks are just about the only remaining 2000AD stories I have never read.

I don't care if they are "dross" or not, I need to see them.
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Post by: TordelBack on 11 August, 2016, 11:33:18 pm
Just received a second haul of 50p Megs (hell of a deal), and strange to report one of the biggest thrills was clocking the floppies. I hadn't really considered that you could order and group the series you liked and ditch the ones you don't - nice little runs of Lobster Random and others crying out for a temporary binding. The floppies can be annoying month to month if you don't like the particular material, but in aggregate they're great. Converted.
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Post by: maryanddavid on 12 August, 2016, 12:30:35 am
Flopppies tend to go unread, and then binged on. Keep em coming!
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Post by: The Mind of Wolfie Smith on 23 August, 2017, 08:40:41 pm
well, really happy that rebellion's new purchases will make for a slew of half-forgotten and underground collections from the likes of tornado, starlord etc (starting this month). but obviously i would still love a wolfie smith floppie. i started with the prog round about prog 126, i think. and i kind of knew even then that the plotting was nonsense. but memories of the art still chill and i'd really like to read it again, especially the story set on a film set where the devil was inadvertently summoned ... hmmm ... please?
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Post by: sheridan on 24 August, 2017, 12:09:13 am
well, really happy that rebellion's new purchases will make for a slew of half-forgotten and underground collections from the likes of tornado, starlord etc (starting this month). but obviously i would still love a wolfie smith floppie. i started with the prog round about prog 126, i think. and i kind of knew even then that the plotting was nonsense. but memories of the art still chill and i'd really like to read it again, especially the story set on a film set where the devil was inadvertently summoned ... hmmm ... please?

The Wendigo!
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Post by: TordelBack on 24 August, 2017, 12:21:34 am
The Wendigo!

She already appeared in the SinDex floppies.
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Post by: glassstanley on 16 September, 2017, 05:33:06 pm
Lot of love from me for this month's floppy. Whatever Happened To..? It's almost the perfect floppy - this would never be collected as a trade. Some top drawer talent - Mills, Grant, Weston - wrapped in a Robinson cover. It's what the floppy was made for!
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Post by: Colin YNWA on 16 September, 2017, 05:37:43 pm
Lot of love from me for this month's floppy. Whatever Happened To..? It's almost the perfect floppy - this would never be collected as a trade. Some top drawer talent - Mills, Grant, Weston - wrapped in a Robinson cover. It's what the floppy was made for!

Yeah and with the addition of the British Comics Treasury stuff that won't make trades the floppie has all of a sudden become essential reading!
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Post by: hippynumber1 on 20 September, 2017, 06:05:31 pm
But I still wish Tharg would collect the rest of Finn, and Helltrekkers, and Tyranny Rex.
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Post by: Geoff on 20 September, 2017, 07:13:30 pm
Great floppy this month! As someone said above, it's what they're made for.
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Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 September, 2017, 07:43:10 pm
Helltrekkers was reprinted in the Magazine itself (218–223). If you're a really big fan, grab issue 54 of the Dredd partworks collection (https://hachettepartworks.com/judge-dredd-the-mega-collection/cursed-earth-carnage).
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Post by: glassstanley on 21 September, 2017, 04:57:09 pm
Definitely yes to Finn and Tyranny Rex.  I’d also be up for the Friday Rogue strips. These would need to be very occasional reprints, and be self-contained so they aren’t dragged out for months like Harlem Heroes was. Stories are meh, but there’s some good artwork in there. One a year wouldn’t hurt to get the Fleisher stories out of the way.

I’d also like to see a new scan of Flesh Book One from the Progs rather than the annual reprints. Silent giant spiders creeping up on the rangers rather than hissing away.
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Post by: IndigoPrime on 21 September, 2017, 10:16:18 pm
I don't care for Finn at all, but figure it'd be decent floppy fodder. Tyranny Rex: yep. Although I'd dearly love that to be collected in full for the Ultimate Collection if that gets expanded. Friday Rogue: bleh. They were fairly awful, but there must be enough good stuff to fill a floppy or two if cherry picked.
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Post by: The Adventurer on 22 September, 2017, 01:06:45 am
Anyone find it crazy they've been doing Floppy reprints for almost 10 years now? Amazing.

As for Tyranny Rex, isn't it mostly reprinted at this point? All the early stuff in the Extreme Edition 21. Floppy 366, 367, and 369 covered the rest.

I do wish Rebellion would do us a solid and release the Extreme Edition digitally. They were released in that 2003 to now window they focused their digital back catalog on. And its the only place stuff like The Dead, Revere, Bad City Blue, and Time Flies have been reprinted. And because of that, they are unlikely to be reprinted as floppies*.

*the fact that stuff like Lobster Random book 1 & The VCs Books 1-3 won't be reprinted in Floppies because they were previously reprinted. But don't have digital editions, is beyond frustrating.
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Post by: glassstanley on 22 September, 2017, 07:07:08 am
There’s been a fairly continuous run of monthly reprints since the mid-80s, with the odd gap when the material was used to fill out the Megazine. So 10 years of floppy is is just a fraction!  But yes, it is quite an achievement and makes me feel old.

Given that the Best of Misty and Eagle lasted about 6 months each,it says something about the quality of the Progs, or the mentality of its readers :)
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Post by: IndigoPrime on 22 September, 2017, 10:30:02 am
I don't know about reissuing the Extreme Editions digitally, but entire runs of stories might be a good shout. I suppose it depends on future plans, and estimates of how likely digital purchases of the more niche strips are likely to put off people from buying in print should the opportunity arise.
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Post by: I, Cosh on 22 September, 2017, 10:44:10 am
I don't know about reissuing the Extreme Editions digitally, but entire runs of stories might be a good shout. I suppose it depends on future plans, and estimates of how likely digital purchases of the more niche strips are likely to put off people from buying in print should the opportunity arise.
They've already done this with Red Seas and Caballistics. To presumably little effect. Although it was never very well publicised.
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Post by: Bolt-01 on 22 September, 2017, 01:17:29 pm
The Red Seas digital collection (both volumes) were superb and really brought home the quality of the series overall.
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Post by: IndigoPrime on 22 September, 2017, 02:32:53 pm
They've already done this with Red Seas and Caballistics.
Well, quite, hence my suggestion. I'd sooner they do that than just churn out the old EEs as PDFs. (Although if they did, it'd be piss easy to make your own custom collections anyway.)
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Post by: The Monarch on 22 September, 2017, 02:59:13 pm
I am still sea salty (sorry) about red seas being digital only its why i hope it gets the ultimate edition treatment it deserves
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Post by: IndigoPrime on 22 September, 2017, 04:15:39 pm
It's a shorter series than I realised. Potentially could be shoved into three 250-page hardbacks. (Might be a bit of a squeeze.)
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Post by: The Monarch on 22 September, 2017, 04:49:55 pm
make it four and add some edginton singles like leviathan (assuming thats not in the ampney crucis book) could be a nice wee run
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Post by: The Adventurer on 22 September, 2017, 10:50:03 pm
They've already done this with Red Seas and Caballistics.
Well, quite, hence my suggestion. I'd sooner they do that than just churn out the old EEs as PDFs. (Although if they did, it'd be piss easy to make your own custom collections anyway.)
I love making custom collections with my 2000AD purchases. I regularly break down my progs into series arcs for easy rereads. And I've pieced together Meg floppy reprints that got spaced out, like putting the final Samantha Slade Robo-Hunter strip From the Ian Gibson collection, into the prior month's Robo-Hunter volumes. So it's continuous. Thank god for drm-free CBRs.

make it four and add some edginton singles like leviathan (assuming thats not in the ampney crucis book) could be a nice wee run
You could toss American Gothic in there, no problem.  I'd say Detonator X too, but that's in color.
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Post by: Bolt-01 on 25 September, 2017, 02:03:22 pm
I remember really enjoying American Gothic- some lovely Mike Collins art too- he used a really 'rough' style that worked beautifully.
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Post by: Colin YNWA on 25 September, 2017, 08:26:51 pm
I remember really enjoying American Gothic- some lovely Mike Collins art too- he used a really 'rough' style that worked beautifully.

Yeah I'd go with that. Mike Collins art was such a striking contrast to what I expect him to do, but so perfect for the strip. At times it reminded me of Klaus Janson.
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Post by: glassstanley on 14 October, 2017, 02:32:26 pm
Another nice floppy this month. A decent collection of 'Terror Tales'. There's a couple of obvious twists, and 1 ending which left me thinking uh?, but on the whole a nice package.

Next month is 'Helium', one from the selection of Unfinished Works by Ian Edginton (when he should have been writing Brass Sun :) )
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Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 October, 2017, 03:23:37 pm
Helium? Odd choice, given that it only ran two years ago.
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Post by: The Adventurer on 14 October, 2017, 03:24:01 pm
Wow. Helium in a floppy? That should of hand a book 2 and been collected in a proper trade by now, wtf!
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Post by: Fungus on 14 October, 2017, 03:28:45 pm
Wow. Helium in a floppy? That should of hand a book 2 and been collected in a proper trade by now, wtf!

Helium read as a floppy sounds great, one of his best. Yum.
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Post by: Skullmo on 14 October, 2017, 04:09:02 pm
Helium? Odd choice, given that it only ran two years ago.

probably because a new series of it will be starting soon and people may need a refresher?
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Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 October, 2017, 04:12:15 pm
probably because a new series of it will be starting soon and people may need a refresher?
There is? Must have fallen out of my brain. Well, in that case: good.
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Post by: Magnetica on 14 October, 2017, 04:36:21 pm
I would prefer to see some more from the back catelogue Rebellion owns appearing, rather than recent 2000AD stuff. For example more stuff from Tornado, like maybe the Mind of Wolfie Smith.

I do appreciate that might taken time e.g. to track down decent source material and it can’t be stuff that they would rather put in a GN or stuff that is expensive to clean up.
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Post by: Richard on 14 October, 2017, 04:41:11 pm
NOT The Mind of Wolfie Smith please.

But otherwise, yes -- although there is nothing wrong with them doing a mix of stuff from 2000AD and stuff from other comics. Not every Megazine was reading the prog over five years ago.
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Post by: WhizzBang on 14 October, 2017, 05:32:01 pm
I'm firmly in the opposite camp. I think I am unlikely to be interested in anything non-2000ad that isn't written by Pat Mills or John Wagner. I haven't read any of the floppy material before.
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Post by: Richard on 14 October, 2017, 06:17:13 pm
Then you've been missing out.
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Post by: sheridan on 14 October, 2017, 07:17:00 pm
probably because a new series of it will be starting soon and people may need a refresher?
There is? Must have fallen out of my brain. Well, in that case: good.

Pretty sure I'd have remembered that if I'd seen an announcement somewhere -  good news - let's hope this bodes well for Edgingtonverse tales continuing after being in limbo for  years...
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Post by: Magnetica on 14 October, 2017, 07:35:02 pm
NOT The Mind of Wolfie Smith please.

But otherwise, yes -- although there is nothing wrong with them doing a mix of stuff from 2000AD and stuff from other comics. Not every Megazine was reading the prog over five years ago.

What’s wrong with the Mind of Wolfie Smith? I have only read the 2000AD stuff, so would be curious to see what it was like in Tornado.

But if Blackhawk is anything to go by, then it’s probably no great shakes. But having said that I would still be interested to see it, if only from a comics history point of view.
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Post by: Richard on 14 October, 2017, 08:34:11 pm
 Wolfie Smith was boring. It made Tharg's list of the 16 worst strips to appear in 2000AD.
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Post by: Colin YNWA on 14 October, 2017, 10:08:20 pm
NOT The Mind of Wolfie Smith please.

But otherwise, yes -- although there is nothing wrong with them doing a mix of stuff from 2000AD and stuff from other comics. Not every Megazine was reading the prog over five years ago.

What’s wrong with the Mind of Wolfie Smith? I have only read the 2000AD stuff, so would be curious to see what it was like in Tornado

Yep I'm up for that. Yes its far from perfect but I get on with it well enough, especially the last story.
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Post by: sheridan on 15 October, 2017, 03:06:08 pm
Wolfie Smith was boring. It made Tharg's list of the 16 worst strips to appear in 2000AD.

Was that during the nineties, in the midst of the insult-everything-that-went-before phase while not offering much decent material to replace it (including the infamous - "comics are just disposable entertainment, don't look for any deeper meaning or subtext, if you're mature enough to want anything more, then stop reading now" reply to a reader's letter)?
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Post by: davidbishop on 15 October, 2017, 05:36:13 pm
Wolfie Smith was boring. It made Tharg's list of the 16 worst strips to appear in 2000AD.

Was that during the nineties, in the midst of the insult-everything-that-went-before phase while not offering much decent material to replace it (including the infamous - "comics are just disposable entertainment, don't look for any deeper meaning or subtext, if you're mature enough to want anything more, then stop reading now" reply to a reader's letter)?

Blimey! What prog was that in?
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Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 15 October, 2017, 07:46:09 pm
Are you sure? Sounds more like the brief manifesto of the Grark Millarson team during the Big Dave / Babe Race 2000 era.