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Title: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 30 October, 2013, 06:21:08 pm
While strolling down memory lane today, revisiting those old Terran Trade Authority handbooks and associated artists, a few things surfaced which made me do a bit of a double-take…

I’ve probably been aware of these er, similarities, on some level for decades but seeing these images for the first time in a long time, just how obvious these swipes are came as a bit of a surprise, and as I spotted these in quick succession I’m sure there are more examples out there.

So, was Tharg aware?  Attentive people might recall I posted previously* about my brother swiping an image from one of the TTA books (then combining it with a background from another) and managing to get Tharg to print it.  First he received £5 and then, after being snitched on by other readers, a Rigellian Hotshot.  The harsh nature of Tharg’s reaction suggests a guilty conscience may have been involved… It’s somewhat comical that readers and creators alike were swiping from the same sources, anyway.

I’d be interested in seeing any more similar examples if anyone has ‘em; if I come across any more I’ll post them here.

Right, on to the Street of Shame.

Joe Petagno: cover art was originally used for a 1979 printing of F. Paul Wilson’s novel Healer but was also featured in Aliens in Space (Hamlyn, Galactic Encounters series)
(http://i.imgur.com/bDLlLIT.jpg)  (http://i.imgur.com/yPEKUQL.jpg)

The Mophioso: art by Ron Smith
(http://i.imgur.com/5ylvv5Z.jpg)


Tim White: cover art used for Robert Silverberg’s Those Who Watch (1977 NEL edition)
(http://i.imgur.com/wQ7DXCu.jpg)  (http://i.imgur.com/HWs63CU.jpg)

Captain Skank’s Calypso: art by Ron Smith
(http://i.imgur.com/o5TTiEs.jpg)


Tim White again (not certain where this was used but I think it was Omni in 1980)
(http://i.imgur.com/kp9JgzG.jpg)

Alan Davis: Harry Twenty on the Swiped Rock (1982)
(http://i.imgur.com/rdpKknJ.jpg)



* http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=28631.0
Image links have gone dead but here’s a new one of Tharg’s responses to swiping… “Only a grexnix would attempt to pass off somebody else’s work as his own in the pages of my progs.”  Indeed, Green Bonce, indeed.  I still can't get over the enthusiasm of those snitching Squaxx... If only they knew.

(http://i.imgur.com/LihNV5W.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: TordelBack on 30 October, 2013, 06:36:13 pm
Brilliant work Ming!  For years I knew there was something familiar about Captain Skank's sea fortress, but I was thinking Millennium Falcon.

That High Rock design brings 'blatant' to a whole new level! 

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: smiffy on 30 October, 2013, 06:52:20 pm
Mr Austin and a photo of Ms Shilleto, maybe?

(http://i40.tinypic.com/1zwjma1.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Frank on 30 October, 2013, 07:00:28 pm

Wrong file, smiffy.

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 30 October, 2013, 07:08:30 pm
I can see this being an extremely enjoyable thread to keep popping into :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Mabs on 30 October, 2013, 08:05:51 pm
Wow that is some seriously interesting (not to mention entertaining) stuff! Cheers Ming! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 30 October, 2013, 09:17:31 pm
I just spotted this last week, hunting through some old progs.  Mike Dorey obviously had some "Blake's 7" photos in his reference file, as demonstrated by "Psi-Testers" in prog 408:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x418/Dash_Decent/Prog408clipgunpanel_zpsfc772561.jpg)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x418/Dash_Decent/PDgun_zps7d4be39a.jpg)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x418/Dash_Decent/scorpio1_zpsf397f578.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 30 October, 2013, 11:47:21 pm
Oh grud, I loved those guns. The only scifi guns to ever look like real weapons that I'd ever seen. Even now they look so cool I can't stop drooling, and in comparison to the squeezy bottle and flex Liberator guns it was like Blake's 7 had suddenly grown a pair of supersize manplums.

This thread has the potential to be as much fun as Spinechat.

SBT
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Steve Green on 30 October, 2013, 11:56:25 pm
Yeah, I don't know about the gun thing, more a copy of a copy of a copy.

(http://publicgunandpawn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/ChurchillHanSolo_MauserC96.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 31 October, 2013, 07:32:35 am
Mr Austin and a photo of Ms Shilleto, maybe?

(http://i40.tinypic.com/1zwjma1.jpg)

Amazing! Although, not sure how you spotted that one in the first place! ;-)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: glassstanley on 31 October, 2013, 08:31:41 am
Doesn't the intro to the Harry Twenty GN go on about how difficult it was to design the High Rock and how the artist had to make models to show GFD that what he wanted wasn't possible? Certainly not if the artist only wanted to, er ... Pay tribute to an Omni magazine,
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Steve Green on 31 October, 2013, 09:06:41 am
I seem to remember a blatant rip of a stormtrooper in a back page poster - maybe a summer special?

Doesn't appear to be in any of the posters on Barney...
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 31 October, 2013, 10:40:40 am
Amazing! Although, not sure how you spotted that one in the first place! ;-)

It was the two Tharg heads, they're a dead giveaway.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Recrewt on 31 October, 2013, 03:38:49 pm
Mr Austin and a photo of Ms Shilleto, maybe?

Amazing! Although, not sure how you spotted that one in the first place! ;-)

Huh, I was reading that exact prog just the other night - #713.  I did amire the cover as it is a great one although  I always thought it was based on that girl out of the flashdance movie.  I will never look at that cover in the same way again. 

Mick Austin did some great covers but now I am starting to wonder what image he used as the basis of this one:  :o :o :o


(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/hires/840.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 31 October, 2013, 08:10:47 pm
Sigh - I used to own that cover :(
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 31 October, 2013, 09:36:56 pm
One of the early progs (under 30) has a zygomatic on it
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 31 October, 2013, 10:13:19 pm
One of the early progs (under 30) has a zygomatic on it

(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/hires/21.jpg)

(http://www.stickboydaily.com/images/2013/04/Top-10-TV-aliens-10.jpg)

Yup.  Trevor Goring / Kev O'Neill, Prog 21.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: BPP on 01 November, 2013, 01:25:17 am
I take it Steve Sampson is getting his own thread?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 01 November, 2013, 09:43:06 am
I take it Steve Sampson is getting his own thread?

The main point of the thread was to highlight lifting of specific character and technical designs rather than more general photo reference, but having said that...

Rondo
(http://i.imgur.com/B7i8bgx.jpg)

Bollo
(http://i.imgur.com/uSbfzUv.jpg)


Then again, within the context of this story it's perfectly sensible.  Took me years to figure out who Rondo Hatton was, though.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 01 November, 2013, 09:49:42 am
I always enjoy it when he comes into a film, it takes me back to this story!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: BPP on 01 November, 2013, 11:55:31 am
I take it Steve Sampson is getting his own thread?

The main point of the thread was to highlight lifting of specific character and technical designs rather than more general photo reference

Eh? Can you explain that in context to the first post and differentiate it from the countless Steve Sampson swipes?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: hippynumber1 on 01 November, 2013, 12:04:31 pm
I think we need to see what it is/was that Mr Sampson swiped design wise (which is the thread) as opposed to Sampson's use of photo references for drawing/painting which is what it seems you're referring to...
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 01 November, 2013, 12:11:43 pm
I take it Steve Sampson is getting his own thread?

The main point of the thread was to highlight lifting of specific character and technical designs rather than more general photo reference

Eh? Can you explain that in context to the first post and differentiate it from the countless Steve Sampson swipes?

Well, I'll try... In the first post I put up some examples of designs (alien, spacecraft / sub, orbiting prison) directly lifted for use in various strips in the Prog.  This kind of things seems more interesting (to me, at least) than the use of photo-reference for random characters, which is presumably fairly common.  Steve Sampson might feature more than most in that respect, I know - but is it very interesting?  I called the thread Sci-Fi Swipe Files as I thought spotting alien and spacecraft / tech designs lifted from other sources might be a bit of fun.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: BPP on 02 November, 2013, 02:03:00 pm
I take it Steve Sampson is getting his own thread?

The main point of the thread was to highlight lifting of specific character and technical designs rather than more general photo reference

Eh? Can you explain that in context to the first post and differentiate it from the countless Steve Sampson swipes?

Well, I'll try... In the first post I put up some examples of designs (alien, spacecraft / sub, orbiting prison) directly lifted for use in various strips in the Prog.  This kind of things seems more interesting (to me, at least) than the use of photo-reference for random characters, which is presumably fairly common.  Steve Sampson might feature more than most in that respect, I know - but is it very interesting?  I called the thread Sci-Fi Swipe Files as I thought spotting alien and spacecraft / tech designs lifted from other sources might be a bit of fun.

Except the Austin, Bolland posts etc are just photo references. Glad to have been the straw that broke the camels back, as Mr Sampson was with my mega subscription back in the day.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Steve Green on 02 November, 2013, 02:30:01 pm
I don't know how you differentiate between, say Star Wars swiping existing guns (Mausers, Sterling Machine Guns for the stormtroopers) and similar being done in comics.

And it could go the other way as well - this looks rather similar to Mr Alpha's Westinghouse.

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130322075760/nerfipedia/images/4/46/Nerf%2BN-Strike%2BElite%2BRough%2BCut%2B2x4-%2BPreview%2B02.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 02 November, 2013, 02:32:26 pm
let's just post anything here that has inspired design or images - that cuts out the 'does it fit on the thread' debate.

However don't just say -so and so used references - Give a nice happy example that you have seen.


Simples.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: hippynumber1 on 02 November, 2013, 02:35:00 pm
I take it Steve Sampson is getting his own thread?

The main point of the thread was to highlight lifting of specific character and technical designs rather than more general photo reference

Eh? Can you explain that in context to the first post and differentiate it from the countless Steve Sampson swipes?

Well, I'll try... In the first post I put up some examples of designs (alien, spacecraft / sub, orbiting prison) directly lifted for use in various strips in the Prog.  This kind of things seems more interesting (to me, at least) than the use of photo-reference for random characters, which is presumably fairly common.  Steve Sampson might feature more than most in that respect, I know - but is it very interesting?  I called the thread Sci-Fi Swipe Files as I thought spotting alien and spacecraft / tech designs lifted from other sources might be a bit of fun.

Except the Austin, Bolland posts etc are just photo references. Glad to have been the straw that broke the camels back, as Mr Sampson was with my mega subscription back in the day.


So, your point is that you're the third person to misunderstand what the thread is about? I don't understand what it is that you think you've broken...but I'm picking up on some hostility here.  :o
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 02 November, 2013, 02:46:42 pm
Horsetility . . . camels with broken backs . . . where will it all end!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Frank on 02 November, 2013, 03:41:36 pm
Horsetility . . . camels with broken backs . . . where will it all end!

With an elephant in the room and a monkey on your back, mate. I too am unsure I've understood the point of the thread - does this count?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4305438.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4305438.stm)

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: hippynumber1 on 02 November, 2013, 03:58:02 pm
Probably not but you've at least included an image (or link in this case) to illustrate your point! I like cats.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: smiffy on 03 November, 2013, 11:45:31 am
Ming, I'm sorry if I misunderstood what this thread was about. If a moderator wants to delete my post I'll not spit my dummy out.

The "chaos" symbol from Michael Moorcock's Eternal Champion or multiverse books turns up in Nemesis. It's clearer more on the interior pages of the prog but you can see the symbol in the top righthand corner of the below cover.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/wly5cp.jpg)

(Off-topic but included in case it will make Ming's brother feel any better: There were a number of similarities between Nemesis and the Multiverse stories. From the Hawkmoon books, the traditional baddies (the Germans, the aliens) were the goodies and the traditonal goodies were the baddies (the British). The baddies (the Termites, the British) also wore face-covering helmets and masks. The whole "chaos" versus order thing runs through most if not all of the multiverse books. The Gothic Empire storyline (the steampunk aliens) also seems to be inspired in part by Moorcock's The Warlord of the Air (the first steampunk novel (people will try to tell you otherwise online), published in 1971, with its futuristic Victoriana technology and whatnot).)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 03 November, 2013, 12:11:37 pm
I like the photo references
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Alski on 03 November, 2013, 12:27:33 pm
Love it - a few fine examples of Twothy art droids nicking other people's designs so they can finish early and go for a long oil break.

The Rondo Hatton was obviously not a "swipe", although pinching the gun design from Blake's 7 certainly is. There's photo reference and there's blatant theivery.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: smiffy on 03 November, 2013, 12:42:01 pm
Found a better example of the Chaos badge on Mr Brood's CAF gallery: http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=923500&GSub=134078# Nemesis by Bryan Talbot; chaos shield by John Picacio.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/155t1t5.jpg)



Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: SuperSurfer on 03 November, 2013, 01:08:51 pm
I reckon the Venetians of the 16th century copied Nemesis.

(http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~durduran/master10.gif)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 04 November, 2013, 01:22:46 am
This 70s book about robots that I have and Little Mo from Ro-Busters

(http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p599/skullmo2000/ScreenShot2013-11-04at011907_zpscdd87ba9.png)

There is a better picture of him in it but I can't find the book!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Andy_Lee on 04 November, 2013, 07:53:30 am
Skullmo, I've got that book somewhere. Most of the extra characters from the Robusters Rise and fall story are in there.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 04 November, 2013, 08:32:37 am
I seemed to remember that is the case - let's see some pictures  :lol:
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 04 November, 2013, 10:39:25 am
I seemed to remember that is the case - let's see some pictures  :lol:

Great find!  If you or Andy could dig that book out I'd love to see more...

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Andy_Lee on 04 November, 2013, 09:53:57 pm
There's a couple from Robots: Fact, Fiction and prediction

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/23rpm/img006.jpg) (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/23rpm/media/img006.jpg.html)

Mo

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/23rpm/mo.jpg) (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/23rpm/media/mo.jpg.html)

Gottlieb

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/23rpm/gottlieb.jpg) (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/23rpm/media/gottlieb.jpg.html)

and Casey

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/23rpm/Casey.jpg) (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/23rpm/media/Casey.jpg.html)

I'm also super sure I've seen Dr Feely-Good as a welding or medical robot in something.

Also has anyone mentioned the Matchbox K2001 Raider Command yet?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: TordelBack on 04 November, 2013, 10:09:45 pm
Wow, that is truly fantastic - never knew about any of that.  Is that O'Neill, McMahon and Dorey all using the same Mills-supplied reference, or are the gang's looks established by just one of them?  Thanks a million, AndyLee and Skullmo:  da eyes of da movement truly are everywhere!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: SuperSurfer on 05 November, 2013, 12:19:31 am
Meanwhile on Sauropod Vertebra Picture of the Week dino nerds are getting their vertebrae in a twist over:

"2000 AD’s flagrantly plagiarised Brontosaurus"
"Like the recent Compsognathus, this is a card from the “Flesh” card-game that was printed across several progs (issues) of the comic 2000 AD in 1977. This one is from the back cover of Prog 10. (Click through the picture for the whole back cover.)

What’s interesting about this one is how very flagrant a rip-off it is of Rudolph Zallinger’s 1960 painting of Brontosaurus being attacked by Allosaurus:"

(http://svpow.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/2000ad-prog-10-back-cover-flesh-card-game-brontosaur.jpeg?w=480&h=316)

(http://svpow.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/1960-allosaurus-attacking-brontosaurus-by-rudolph-f-zallinger.jpg?w=480&h=342)

http://svpow.com/2012/10/18/2000-ads-flagrantly-plagiarised-brontosaurus/

My beef (or Flesh) with that card game is that I destroyed several good progs for it including IIRC that episode of a helmetless Dredd.

And if that's not enough, poor 2000AD gets outnerded for not sticking to the source material:

"2000 AD’s bizarre fin-handed Compsognathus"
http://svpow.com/2012/10/02/2000ads-bizarre-fin-handed-compsognathus/
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: TordelBack on 05 November, 2013, 08:13:27 am
And if that's not enough, poor 2000AD gets outnerded for not sticking to the source material:

I read that differently - 2000AD was sticking close to the source material, but the source material became outdated almost immediately.

Thanks for a new blog to follow, Surfer!  That one is pure displacement gold.

And this thread is bearing wonderful fruit, well done all.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 05 November, 2013, 10:23:44 am
Those Ro-Busters robots are a joy to behold...

On similar lines:
Gargantua by Chris Foss; used as the cover to The Bicentennial Man, (Panther, 1978).  Is it just me or does this bear more than a passing resemblance to Dave Gibbons and Pat Mills' perennial fan-favourite, Charlie, Hero of Northpool (first appeared in February 1979)?  Note the presence of the ships being towed by Charlie's Gargantua's lower arms...  Might be pure coincidence, of course!

Chris Foss
(http://i.imgur.com/v7uh885.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/piYFWUN.jpg)


Dave Gibbons
(http://i.imgur.com/85we2YV.jpg)



Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 05 November, 2013, 10:37:47 am
What’s interesting about this one is how very flagrant a rip-off it is of Rudolph Zallinger’s 1960 painting of Brontosaurus being attacked by Allosaurus

They say very flagrant a rip-off, Tharg says 'homage'.

Speaking of homages, I'm sure we've had a few variations on the 'people in the late night diner with the curved front' painting show up in the prog and meg.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: TordelBack on 05 November, 2013, 11:53:01 am
Speaking of homages, I'm sure we've had a few variations on the 'people in the late night diner with the curved front' painting show up in the prog and meg.

Aye, there's loads of art-homages.  From this week's re-reading, Millais' Ophelia stands in for the dead Demi in Eurocrash (can't find a scan of the latter(:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/John_Everett_Millais_-_Ophelia_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg/800px-John_Everett_Millais_-_Ophelia_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg)

But I suspect all the artistic borrowings are conscious and explicit homages, intended to be recognised and appreciated as such.  I doubt the same can be said for the Hero of Northpool!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 05 November, 2013, 11:57:05 am
Yes - there is difference between an artistic homage (that you want readers to spot), a swipe (that you want them to miss), photo referencing (to make things a bit more realistic), and copy of designs (make the incidental details more convincing).
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Steve Green on 05 November, 2013, 10:34:54 pm
Funny though, I think the Gibbons version is a better design, and the bodywork feels more like a functional machine.

Was very surprised to see the Robusters extras, but again I think there were improvements like Gottleib's striped bollard legs.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Albion on 05 November, 2013, 11:25:16 pm
Remember this from a while back?
Another one from Ro-Busters, Dr Feely-Good.

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/albion79uk/39db3e9a549f9018dfc4b8da74ed2438_zps3ccc00fd.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 05 November, 2013, 11:38:47 pm
What’s interesting about this one is how very flagrant a rip-off it is of Rudolph Zallinger’s 1960 painting of Brontosaurus being attacked by Allosaurus

They say very flagrant a rip-off, Tharg says 'homage'.

Speaking of homages, I'm sure we've had a few variations on the 'people in the late night diner with the curved front' painting show up in the prog and meg.

As if by magic:

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x32/scowling_monkey/null_zps9243a8fa.jpg)

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 06 November, 2013, 01:43:49 am
Outlaw was clearly based on 2pac - who also has outlaw tattooed on his arm.

(http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p599/skullmo2000/ScreenShot2013-11-06at014145_zps7c1a33c8.png)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Richmond Clements on 06 November, 2013, 08:05:26 am
(http://i1.cdnds.net/13/45/618x813/comics-2000-ad-prog-report-1857-1.jpg)

(http://www.dandare.info/history/books/virgin_dredd/dredd_silencer.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Colin YNWA on 06 November, 2013, 08:13:51 am

As if by magic:

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x32/scowling_monkey/null_zps9243a8fa.jpg)

Nighthawks by Hopper has to be one of the most referenced and homaged pieces of art in the comics field. There's countless examples of it being used... no I don't have any to hand you'll just have to trust me...
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Andy_Lee on 06 November, 2013, 08:19:44 am
Remember this from a while back?
Another one from Ro-Busters, Dr Feely-Good.


Yes, thanks Albion. That's exactly the pic I was thinking of.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 06 November, 2013, 10:10:53 am
Nighthawks by Hopper has to be one of the most referenced and homaged pieces of art in the comics field. There's countless examples of it being used... no I don't have any to hand you'll just have to trust me...

And not just in comics.  And the same could be said for American Gothic.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 06 November, 2013, 11:31:21 am
Remember this from a while back?
Another one from Ro-Busters, Dr Feely-Good.

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/albion79uk/39db3e9a549f9018dfc4b8da74ed2438_zps3ccc00fd.jpg)

Fantastic.

(http://2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/hires/108.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Andy_Lee on 06 November, 2013, 12:20:15 pm
Obligatory Land Raider / Matchbox K2001 Raider Command post.

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/23rpm/raider1.jpg) (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/23rpm/media/raider1.jpg.html)(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/23rpm/Dredd_0022.jpg) (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/23rpm/media/Dredd_0022.jpg.html)

I think this was some kind of tie-in promo because there was a comp to win one in prog 80.

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/23rpm/Dredd_AD-80-Page-10.jpg) (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/23rpm/media/Dredd_AD-80-Page-10.jpg.html)


Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 06 November, 2013, 01:10:36 pm
Obligatory Land Raider / Matchbox K2001 Raider Command post.
I think this was some kind of tie-in promo because there was a comp to win one in prog 80.

As a kid in the 70's, being able to play with a toy of something from the pages of 2000AD was such a joy...

Bolland quoted from an interview posted on David Bishop's blog:

"There was a toy tie-in – the Killdozer, it was a real story. They gave us this toy to draw it into the story. The script said I had to draw the Killdozer driving up the face of Mt Rushmore. There was no way this thing manage it, but I just drew what I was asked to do. It was going pretty much vertically. It didn’t look very convincing to me, but there you go!"

http://viciousimagery.blogspot.no/2007/02/28-days-of-2000-ad-24-brian-bolland-pt.html
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: TordelBack on 06 November, 2013, 01:45:18 pm
The script said I had to draw the Killdozer driving up the face of Mt Rushmore.... It didn’t look very convincing to me, but there you go!

That's the Mt. Rushmore moved from the south-west of South Dakota to somewhere in Appalachia, folks!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 06 November, 2013, 01:49:14 pm
That's the Mt. Rushmore moved from the south-west of South Dakota to somewhere in Appalachia, folks!

Well if they can move the White Cliffs of Dover to the Big Meg for a one-off*, I don't see why Mutie Rushmore should be a problem...  :lol:




* If they made an appearance outside UnAmerican Graffiti, my brain doesn't know about it.  Please advise.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: hippynumber1 on 06 November, 2013, 02:03:10 pm
They 'appeared' (as in I remember them being mentioned, I think  :-\) in one of the radio plays!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 07 November, 2013, 02:28:32 am
Dr and Quinch


An excerpt from OC and Stiggs in National Lampoon

(http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p599/skullmo2000/ScreenShot2013-11-07at022642_zpsd28083c9.png)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Steve Green on 07 November, 2013, 09:35:13 am
I don't know if you'd call it a swipe, but maybe an inspiration, good buddy! (Since we know Feek was inspired by something else)

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/worth-more-than-its-weight-in-gold--alberto-giacometti-sculpture-could-fetch-31m-at-sothebys-auction-8925213.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/worth-more-than-its-weight-in-gold--alberto-giacometti-sculpture-could-fetch-31m-at-sothebys-auction-8925213.html)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 07 November, 2013, 09:40:05 am
I don't know if you'd call it a swipe, but maybe an inspiration, good buddy! (Since we know Feek was inspired by something else)

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/worth-more-than-its-weight-in-gold--alberto-giacometti-sculpture-could-fetch-31m-at-sothebys-auction-8925213.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/worth-more-than-its-weight-in-gold--alberto-giacometti-sculpture-could-fetch-31m-at-sothebys-auction-8925213.html)

Hah, that's uncanny...  :)

(http://i.imgur.com/EcAw1lY.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Andy_Lee on 07 November, 2013, 09:56:14 am
I don't know if you'd call it a swipe, but maybe an inspiration, good buddy! (Since we know Feek was inspired by something else)


Hah, that's uncanny...  :)


That's Ace! Bum, tish. I'm here all week

What was Feek based on?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Alski on 07 November, 2013, 12:17:19 pm
Can't be coincidence - shame we can't ask Massimo!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 November, 2013, 02:28:41 pm
Dr and Quinch


An excerpt from OC and Stiggs in National Lampoon


(http://anagitationofmind.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/nloc_stiggs1.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 07 November, 2013, 02:56:20 pm
Well if we're dragging out plotting 'influences' and the like, here's the plot outline from Roger Zelazny's  1969 novel, Damnation Alley, lifted from Wikipedia (bits in italics are mine, obviously).  I'm sure you're all aware of this old chestnut but it always tickles me....

"The story opens in a post-apocalyptic Southern California [Mega-City Two], in a hellish world shattered by nuclear war decades before [Atom Wars]. Several police states have emerged in place of the former United States [Judges]. Hurricane-force winds above five hundred feet prevent any sort of air travel from one state to the next [The Death Belt], and sudden, violent, and unpredictable storms make day-to-day life a mini-hell. Hell Tanner [Spikes Harvey Rotten], an imprisoned killer [criminal biker], is offered a full pardon in exchange for taking on a suicide mission - a drive through "Damnation Alley" [The Cursed Earth] across a ruined America from Los Angeles to Boston [east coast to west coast] - as one of three vehicles attempting to deliver an urgently needed plague vaccine [K2001 Land Raider, Killdozer; 2T(Fru)T vaccine]."

(http://i.imgur.com/xugt7d1.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 07 November, 2013, 02:58:46 pm
Well if we're dragging out plotting 'influences' and the like, here's the plot outline from Roger Zelazny's  1969 novel, Damnation Alley, lifted from Wikipedia (bits in italics are mine, obviously).  I'm sure you're all aware of this old chestnut but it always tickles me....

"The story opens in a post-apocalyptic Southern California [Mega-City Two], in a hellish world shattered by nuclear war decades before [Atom Wars]. Several police states have emerged in place of the former United States [Judges]. Hurricane-force winds above five hundred feet prevent any sort of air travel from one state to the next [The Death Belt], and sudden, violent, and unpredictable storms make day-to-day life a mini-hell. Hell Tanner [Spikes Harvey Rotten], an imprisoned killer [criminal biker], is offered a full pardon in exchange for taking on a suicide mission - a drive through "Damnation Alley" [The Cursed Earth] across a ruined America from Los Angeles to Boston [east coast to west coast] - as one of three vehicles attempting to deliver an urgently needed plague vaccine [K2001 Land Raider, Killdozer; 2T(Fru)T vaccine]."

(http://i.imgur.com/xugt7d1.jpg)

 :o

Just...

 :o


Wut!

 :o
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 07 November, 2013, 03:38:07 pm
 :lol:  Brilliant!!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JamesC on 07 November, 2013, 03:42:37 pm
Well if we're dragging out plotting 'influences' and the like, here's the plot outline from Roger Zelazny's  1969 novel, Damnation Alley, lifted from Wikipedia (bits in italics are mine, obviously).  I'm sure you're all aware of this old chestnut but it always tickles me....

"The story opens in a post-apocalyptic Southern California [Mega-City Two], in a hellish world shattered by nuclear war decades before [Atom Wars]. Several police states have emerged in place of the former United States [Judges]. Hurricane-force winds above five hundred feet prevent any sort of air travel from one state to the next [The Death Belt], and sudden, violent, and unpredictable storms make day-to-day life a mini-hell. Hell Tanner [Spikes Harvey Rotten], an imprisoned killer [criminal biker], is offered a full pardon in exchange for taking on a suicide mission - a drive through "Damnation Alley" [The Cursed Earth] across a ruined America from Los Angeles to Boston [east coast to west coast] - as one of three vehicles attempting to deliver an urgently needed plague vaccine [K2001 Land Raider, Killdozer; 2T(Fru)T vaccine]."

(http://i.imgur.com/xugt7d1.jpg)

 :o

Just...

 :o


Wut!

 :o

That's one crappy looking Land Raider.

The death belt is present and correct in that image though.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: o1s1n on 07 November, 2013, 03:46:29 pm
"The story opens in a post-apocalyptic Southern California [Mega-City Two], in a hellish world shattered by nuclear war decades before [Atom Wars]. Several police states have emerged in place of the former United States [Judges]. Hurricane-force winds above five hundred feet prevent any sort of air travel from one state to the next [The Death Belt], and sudden, violent, and unpredictable storms make day-to-day life a mini-hell. Hell Tanner [Spikes Harvey Rotten], an imprisoned killer [criminal biker], is offered a full pardon in exchange for taking on a suicide mission - a drive through "Damnation Alley" [The Cursed Earth] across a ruined America from Los Angeles to Boston [east coast to west coast] - as one of three vehicles attempting to deliver an urgently needed plague vaccine [K2001 Land Raider, Killdozer; 2T(Fru)T vaccine].

Ah here! That takes the cake! Remind me to stop reading this thread :D



Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Steve Green on 07 November, 2013, 03:47:54 pm
The Feek thing was inspired by a south/Central American statue I seem to recall.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Colin YNWA on 07 November, 2013, 04:56:57 pm
If you've not all seen it there's a great (terrible) film version staring George Peppard (I think) and that bloke what was off of Airwolf (I think). It all there on Youtube and good heartly fun (nonsense)...

... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsKYJdHe4xo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsKYJdHe4xo)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: IndigoPrime on 07 November, 2013, 04:57:24 pm
Quote
The Feek thing was inspired by a south/Central American statue I seem to recall.

Mictlantecuhtli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mictlantecuhtli), presumably…

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/MictlantecuhtliByPhilKonstantin.jpg/220px-MictlantecuhtliByPhilKonstantin.jpg)
(http://media.web.britannica.com/eb-media/78/97478-004-1C7C76FF.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 07 November, 2013, 05:34:50 pm
WOW!!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Richmond Clements on 07 November, 2013, 05:38:30 pm
I love this thread.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Andy_Lee on 07 November, 2013, 06:21:15 pm
I love this thread.

Indeed. It's getting addictive.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: hippynumber1 on 07 November, 2013, 06:26:51 pm
If we're including plots, and tying in with another thread, I have a vague recollection (as most of them are these days) of our beloved weekly getting into some trouble for swiping the plot of an episode of 'The Twilight Zone'. Please correct me/fill in details as appropriate...
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 07 November, 2013, 06:41:05 pm
If we're including plots, and tying in with another thread, I have a vague recollection (as most of them are these days) of our beloved weekly getting into some trouble for swiping the plot of an episode of 'The Twilight Zone'. Please correct me/fill in details as appropriate...

Prog 302, 'The Pilgrim' (not actually a Future Shock) is very clearly 'A Hundred Yards Over the Rim', told in five pages without missing a thing.  It appears to be a 'first thing pulled out of the Emergency Drawer' to replace that week's episode of Rogue Trooper, probably because the Ewins droid overheating after having to come up with 22 panels on a single page in prog 301.

There's also one based very closely on Frederik Pohl's 'The Tunnel Under The World', albeit entirely rewritten.  And, of course, the one based on the Harry Harrison short story...
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 07 November, 2013, 06:42:55 pm
Judge Fire
(http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p599/skullmo2000/skull_zps7df088c7.jpg)

And Judge Mortis
(http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p599/skullmo2000/sheep_neonate_lat_800_zps4a257240.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: hippynumber1 on 07 November, 2013, 06:48:26 pm
Judge Fire
(http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p599/skullmo2000/skull_zps7df088c7.jpg)

And Judge Mortis
(http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p599/skullmo2000/sheep_neonate_lat_800_zps4a257240.jpg)

Genius!  :lol:
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 07 November, 2013, 06:50:55 pm
Spam the thread, why don't you? ::)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 07 November, 2013, 06:59:23 pm
That's not spam it's gold. GOLD!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 07 November, 2013, 07:02:15 pm
Another blatant influence on Judge Fire.  Coincidence?  I don't think so

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRwQCEu8pPc7xpLEb4-ixwEcEQWbK26581SLSgJoG_x9Kbk1SKt)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 07 November, 2013, 07:03:24 pm
Yeah, well, just leave it at that and don't start on Judge Fish, okay? :lol:
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: M.I.K. on 07 November, 2013, 07:11:09 pm
Quote
The Feek thing was inspired by a south/Central American statue I seem to recall.

Mictlantecuhtli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mictlantecuhtli), presumably…

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/MictlantecuhtliByPhilKonstantin.jpg/220px-MictlantecuhtliByPhilKonstantin.jpg)(http://media.web.britannica.com/eb-media/78/97478-004-1C7C76FF.jpg)

Which I mentioned on John Wagner's facebook fan page (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151828929174613&set=a.431901729612.231093.22334044612) this very afternoon, when he mentioned the Ace Garp-a-like.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 07 November, 2013, 07:13:44 pm
If I may desperately try to rescue the thread:

There was a Grant Morrison Future Shock about a letter travelling through time and space, that was a near word-for-word swipe from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.  The great, big, baldy, knighted old cheat
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 07 November, 2013, 07:16:59 pm
That's not a rescue, it's a corner at best!

I always thought Ace was inspired by the impossible man http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/ff176.jpg   But John Wagner said it was a Mask that they sent to Belardinelli for reference
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: o1s1n on 07 November, 2013, 08:40:10 pm
This thread is brilliant, I really haven't come across any of these before. Particularly loving the prog 713 / Toni Shilleto connection. It was always one of my favourite covers when I was younger - now I know why!  :D

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 November, 2013, 08:58:45 pm
Since this thread has become a purging of sorts.


PURGE! by Bruce Bezaire & Jose Oritz. Not posting it here but the complete story is in Creepy #73 (1975):


(http://imageshack.us/a/img5/2862/purge1.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img32/6704/purge2.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img39/3539/purge3.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img69/8932/purge4.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img856/3065/purge6.jpg)




Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Spikes on 07 November, 2013, 09:20:25 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/xugt7d1.jpg)



If you've not all seen it there's a great (terrible) film version staring George Peppard (I think) and that bloke what was off of Airwolf (I think). It all there on Youtube and good heartly fun (nonsense)...

... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsKYJdHe4xo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsKYJdHe4xo)

Its a right load of old crap really, but i do have a bit of a soft spot for it.
And i do keep meaning to track down a copy of the paperback, so thanks for the reminder guys!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: SuperSurfer on 08 November, 2013, 12:45:24 am
If you've not all seen it there's a great (terrible) film version staring George Peppard (I think) and that bloke what was off of Airwolf (I think). It all there on Youtube and good heartly fun (nonsense)...
... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsKYJdHe4xo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsKYJdHe4xo)
I remember seeing this in my school days on tv and the next day we were talking about how bad it was and how the wheels on their Landraider type vehicle were ridiculous. Just had a quick look at that link and strangely enough it seems very watchable. But still crap.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: O Lucky Stevie! on 08 November, 2013, 04:14:48 am
Oh dear. It all comes down to personal taste but poor Eddie Jones was responsible for Little Stevie not reading  a whole swag of books.

Fortunately Sphere saw fit to issue another edition with a proper Chris Foss cover:

(http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1301/1470822101_9ea43624d5_z.jpg)

& what a cracking read it is too.

In no part due the fact that the whole thing plays out in your head drawn by McMahon & Bolland.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: TordelBack on 08 November, 2013, 08:36:01 am
PURGE! by Bruce Bezaire & Jose Oritz. Not posting it here but the complete story is in Creepy #73 (1975):

Lovely crisp scans there, Joe.  One can almost see the naughty-naughties in question.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: O Lucky Stevie! on 08 November, 2013, 08:51:28 am
Ooo hello! This chap seems oddly familiar.

The phizog rings a bell...

(http://www.vintagetoysillustrated.com/vintagetoy/forsale/may/2011/RENWAL_THE_VISIBLE_MAN_INCREDIBLE_SCIENCE_ASSEMBLY_PROJECT_PLASTIC_MODEL_KIT_800_BOX_LID.JPG)



...but just can't put a finger on the name...




(http://www.vintagetoysillustrated.com/vintagetoy/forsale/september/2008/RENWAL_THE_VISIBLE_WOMAN_THE_VISIBLE_MAN_PLASTIC_MODEL_KITS.JPG)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 08 November, 2013, 10:18:34 am
PURGE! by Bruce Bezaire & Jose Oritz. Not posting it here but the complete story is in Creepy #73 (1975):

Lovely crisp scans there, Joe.  One can almost see the naughty-naughties in question.

Yeah, loving the unique style of Jose Ortiz - one of my fave artists from the early years.  Distinctive, detailed and full of character!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 08 November, 2013, 10:27:12 am
That's one crappy looking Land Raider.

It looks like the Little Engine that Could crossed with some metallic cockroaches.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Colin YNWA on 08 November, 2013, 10:32:18 am
The thread isn't just popular here. You've made the 'headlines'

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/11/08/friday-runaround-from-2000ad-swipes-to-kickstarter-scammers/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/11/08/friday-runaround-from-2000ad-swipes-to-kickstarter-scammers/)

Credit where its due though at least Rich Johnson is giving appropriate credit rather than just running the swipes as stuff he's come across... as he's been accused of before (maybe not with swipes but other stories... and maybe swipes I don't remember)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 08 November, 2013, 10:58:17 am
Wait.... Bleeding Cool SWIPE their swipes?!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Kudos on 08 November, 2013, 11:25:05 am
Now, I don't have any images to share but this thread has raised a memory. When I was a kid I had a book called Spacecraft: 2000 to 2100 by Stuart Crowley.
The book came out in the late 70's  and was full of amazing spaceship art. I remember it fondly. I'm pretty sure that some of the ships featured have appeared in the pages of 2000AD; at the very least I remember several ships from the book appearing in the original run of the VCs - bothe Geek ships and the VC's own vehicle IIRC - and I'm pretty sure there were some others. Is anyone else familiar with this book?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 08 November, 2013, 11:27:06 am
Is anyone else familiar with this book?

Read the post that started the thread...   :)

As for the VCs ship, I don't remember seeing that anywhere other than the Prog but if you dig something up, please post it here!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Kudos on 08 November, 2013, 11:41:12 am
Ah, I never made the "Terran Trade Authority" connection to the book I remember. It was a long time ago and I just remember it as a cool book full of spaceships. I'll have a look around the net for images now though.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 08 November, 2013, 12:59:45 pm
So has 2000AD ever been pulled up on this kind of stuff then?  Legally or otherwise?

I remember my indignance about the whole SOK!/Hardware thing, but now it seems the shoe is somewhat on the other foot, and may have been for quite some time!  :o ;)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JamesC on 08 November, 2013, 01:04:28 pm
So has 2000AD ever been pulled up on this kind of stuff then?  Legally or otherwise?

I remember my indignance about the whole SOK!/Hardware thing, but now it seems the shoe is somewhat on the other foot, and may have been for quite some time!  :o ;)

I guess those Cursed Earth episodes count don't they?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 08 November, 2013, 02:54:23 pm
So has 2000AD ever been pulled up on this kind of stuff then?  Legally or otherwise?

I remember my indignance about the whole SOK!/Hardware thing, but now it seems the shoe is somewhat on the other foot, and may have been for quite some time!  :o ;)

I guess those Cursed Earth episodes count don't they?

Well, yes, but what I'm wondering is if 2000AD got into trouble about the similarities, in much the same way the makers of Hardware did...? 
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Steve Green on 08 November, 2013, 03:12:45 pm
Not about Damnation Alley, AFAIK.

Fleetway had a history of being inspired by pop culture.

Spinball/Death Game = Rollerball, Hookjaw = Jaws, MACH 1 = Six Million Dollar Man,  Flesh = Valley of Gwangi.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 08 November, 2013, 04:05:10 pm
Not about Damnation Alley, AFAIK.

Fleetway had a history of being inspired by pop culture.

Spinball/Death Game = Rollerball, Hookjaw = Jaws, MACH 1 = Six Million Dollar Man,  Flesh = Valley of Gwangi.

And, of course, back then it was fine. Companies weren't so litigious- which is possibly why everyone was so surprised when McShitburgers got their foul-tasting fastfood knickers in a tizzy over Burger Wars and the Green Giant people weren't "Ho HO HOing" either.

I wonder if you could get away with that level of rip-off er, parody, now under the laws concerning satire and fair usage? Could 2000AD run a "Cross Raptors" strip, for instance, that was blatantly based on Angry Birds? Or a "Pack 'em in" monster-collecting story with a little yellow shit called "Chickapoo"? Not as a one-off, or a satirical bad guy in Dredd, but as a whole new series, a la Hook Jaw. Hmm. Famously Lucasfilm told Tharg to cease and desist when he ran with the strapline "Star Wars" on a Rogue Trooper-themed cover a decade or so ago.

SBT
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 November, 2013, 04:18:41 pm
Companies weren't so litigious- which is possibly why everyone was so surprised when McShitburgers got their foul-tasting fastfood knickers in a tizzy over Burger Wars and the Green Giant people weren't "Ho HO HOing" either.

I believe McDonalds were never involved or raised too much of an eyebrow; it was the owners of Jolly Green Giant - General Mills - that made all the threats and demanded a retraction. The Burger Wars episodes were withdrawn from future publication just in case.

Quote
I wonder if you could get away with that level of rip-off er, parody, now under the laws concerning satire and fair usage?

Only applies in the US where the laws are different, apparently, but the banned strips still can never be republished because under agreement Fleetway/IPC made a promise never to reprint them so they can't break it.

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: GordonR on 08 November, 2013, 04:36:56 pm
Quote
but the banned strips can never be republished because under agreement Fleetway/IPC made a promise never to reprint them

AHH, that was decades and several publishing owners ago. Can't Rebellion claim such an agreement was never actually signed and dare the other party to produce the actual paperwork to prove otherwise? (Or "try a Morrison", as I believe this is called in legal terms.)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 November, 2013, 04:37:44 pm
AHH, that was decades and several publishing owners ago. Can't Rebellion claim such an agreement was never actually signed and dare the other party to produce the actual paperwork to prove otherwise? (Or "try a Morrison", as I believe this is called in legal terms.)

The Jolly Green Giant never forgets and never forgives.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Steve Green on 08 November, 2013, 07:37:25 pm
There are changes to parody laws in the UK being talked about.

http://www.worldipreview.com/article/uk-copyright-law-a-change-for-the-better (http://www.worldipreview.com/article/uk-copyright-law-a-change-for-the-better)

It would be great to see an Uncut Cursed Earth, but if it's not been reprinted in the states I'm not sure what difference the new guidelines would make over here.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 09 November, 2013, 02:39:29 am
The Arnold Shwarzenegger film "The Sixth Day" was on TV last night.  I hadn't seen it before.

The story includes "RePets", a service offering clones of deceased pets.  It reminded me of the pet resurrection service run by Dr. Icarus in the "Dredd vs Death" game.  In both cases the treatments used on pets foreshadow something similar happening with people.

I think the movie came first but perhaps pet cloning/resurrection is a more common SF idea than I'm aware of.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: pert on 23 November, 2013, 07:17:28 pm
Does anyone think The Rock Drill by Jacob Epstein looks like Nemesis?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: I, Cosh on 23 November, 2013, 07:45:27 pm
In a similar vein to the Cursed Earth/Damnation Alley thing, I've mentioned on here the... debt that Meltdown Man owes to Cordwainer Smith's The Underpeople. It was nice to see Tom Tully acknowledge it in his introduction to the GN.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 23 November, 2013, 11:02:57 pm
Does anyone think The Rock Drill by Jacob Epstein looks like Nemesis?

Nahhh. It's Mad Ronn, innit?

(http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8453/7887132634_f53e457d78.jpg)

(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/square_small/1/13925/294996-116592-mad-ronn.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: maryanddavid on 24 November, 2013, 01:07:38 am
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Can't Rebellion claim such an agreement was never actually signed and dare the other party to produce the actual paperwork to prove otherwise?

Probably not really worth the hassle, would the few extra episodes shift that many more GN's of a 'really complete' Curded Earth?

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Tom Tully acknowledge it in his introduction to the GN.

Alan Hebden's introduction, not nitpicking, but more that this caught my eye, as a 'was Tully finally tracked down' moment

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Spikes on 24 November, 2013, 01:31:48 pm
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Can't Rebellion claim such an agreement was never actually signed and dare the other party to produce the actual paperwork to prove otherwise?

Probably not really worth the hassle, would the few extra episodes shift that many more GN's of a 'really complete' Curded Earth?


I'd dearly love to see a complete Cursed Earth reprinted. Whether it would be worth the potential hassle, as youve said, is another matter.
I wonder if Rebellion have given this matter any thought?

I believe McDonalds were never involved or raised too much of an eyebrow

I wonder if that would remain true if those episodes were reprinted now?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 November, 2013, 01:44:07 pm
I believe McDonalds were never involved or raised too much of an eyebrow

I wonder if that would remain true if those episodes were reprinted now?


I doubt McDonald's would be bothered.

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: malkymac on 24 November, 2013, 01:44:29 pm
Mr Austin and a photo of Ms Shilleto, maybe?

(http://i40.tinypic.com/1zwjma1.jpg)

Any idea who she is?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: hippynumber1 on 24 November, 2013, 02:07:32 pm
Ms Shilleto, obviously!  ;)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Spikes on 24 November, 2013, 02:21:58 pm
I believe McDonalds were never involved or raised too much of an eyebrow

I wonder if that would remain true if those episodes were reprinted now?


I doubt McDonald's would be bothered.

Mmmm. If anything they seem, over the years, to be more inclined to clamp down hard on any perceived infringements/negative portrayals.

Or at best - like most global corporations, lack a sense of humour for any suchlike.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 November, 2013, 02:58:38 pm
Mmmm. If anything they seem, over the years, to be more inclined to clamp down hard on any perceived infringements/negative portrayals.


The only legal cases I've seen McDonalds take are against the competition or companies with similar branding. If anything they are very stealthy when it comes to criticism or lampooning– they took adavantage of Super Size Me by placing an ad in the trailer pointing to a McDonalds sponsored 'debate' website and eventually turned the tables by promoting their slop as a 'healthy' alternative by adding a mass-produced anemic salad choice and snack wraps (knowing well that the vast majority of people never go to McDonalds just for the salads). McDonalds yearly revenue increased after that.

Ideally, if a newly released complete Cursed Earth collection with the banned episodes took-off, McDonalds would seize the chance to release a Burger Wars Happy Meal with plastic toys and cardboard play-background.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Spikes on 24 November, 2013, 03:24:22 pm
Ideally,.... McDonalds would seize the chance to release a Burger Wars Happy Meal with plastic toys and cardboard play-background.

WANT!!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: smiffy on 24 November, 2013, 07:05:42 pm
Any idea who she is?

Toni Shilleto.

Fine cheekbones. Classical jawline. Winning smile. Well worth referencing as a photo.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 25 November, 2013, 04:04:13 pm
I googled her after reading this and could not find that image.

Which means it comes from Smiffy's private collection! :D
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 25 November, 2013, 05:16:38 pm
Any idea who she is?

Toni Shilleto.

Fine cheekbones. Classical jawline. Winning smile. Well worth referencing as a photo.

Want.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: hippynumber1 on 25 November, 2013, 06:48:41 pm
I googled her after reading this and could not find that image.

Yea, don't imagine you were the only one!  :lol:
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 25 November, 2013, 07:23:18 pm
I wonder if smiffy can upload all his pics to dropbox for us - just so that we can research any other pictures that have inspired covers!
 :lol:
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Spikes on 26 November, 2013, 05:33:21 pm
I googled her after reading this and could not find that image.

Yea, don't imagine you were the only one!  :lol:

Indeed. Found a nice one of her in a swimming pool though.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Proudhuff on 27 November, 2013, 11:06:43 am
There are changes to parody laws in the UK being talked about.

http://www.worldipreview.com/article/uk-copyright-law-a-change-for-the-better (http://www.worldipreview.com/article/uk-copyright-law-a-change-for-the-better)

It would be great to see an Uncut Cursed Earth, but if it's not been reprinted in the states I'm not sure what difference the new guidelines would make over here.

Isn't this why we keep Canada?




joking  :D
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: IndigoPrime on 27 November, 2013, 11:34:19 am
There are changes to parody laws in the UK being talked about.
Although most of this—including fair-use laws for format-shifting—have already been roundly rejected by the government, because they argue there's no case for it and it'll harm their rich chums' businesses.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 18 December, 2013, 10:36:07 am
Clearly the inspiration for Nikolai Dante!  ::)

(http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p599/skullmo2000/dante_zps0c86d6c9.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Chris Tresson on 18 December, 2013, 12:12:25 pm
Al's Baby:
(http://shop.2000adonline.com/images/product_full/als_baby.jpg)

FOX's Archer (TV Series):
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1462972_688383231180541_1523681731_n.png)

...Or is it just me that sees this?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: GordonR on 18 December, 2013, 12:15:16 pm
Uhhh....

They're both referencing the same thing - the really, really famous magazine cover (was it Vanity Fair?) of a naked and heavily pregnant Demi Moore standing in that exact pose. (Sans gun, obviously...)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Chris Tresson on 18 December, 2013, 12:19:18 pm
Ah... I had no idea.

Just googled it. I blame my age and lack of Vanity Fair for my stupidity.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 18 December, 2013, 12:24:27 pm
Uhhh....

They're both referencing the same thing - the really, really famous magazine cover (was it Vanity Fair?) of a naked and heavily pregnant Demi Moore standing in that exact pose. (Sans gun, obviously...)

(http://www.vanityfair.com/dam/hollywood/2011/08/demi-moore.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Chris Tresson on 18 December, 2013, 12:26:26 pm
Yeah I saw that one, and a few others based on it too. The pensioner one is a bit grim...
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dandontdare on 18 December, 2013, 12:33:12 pm
Johnny Vegas also did a version for a Guardian feature.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Chris Tresson on 18 December, 2013, 12:52:16 pm
Johnny Vegas also did a version for a Guardian feature.

Nice... Haha.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 18 December, 2013, 04:03:02 pm
(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2011/09/22/article-1316698246956-0E0507B500000578-912690_465x547.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Chris Tresson on 18 December, 2013, 04:13:16 pm
JESUS! HAHAHA
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 16 March, 2014, 08:56:52 pm
This just came up in discussion on the FB art group... The classic Gary Rice / Brett Ewins Future Shock from Prog 206, 'The Last Man' bears a striking resemblance to a story published in Heavy Metal the very same month (April 1981).   As detailed in the blog linked to below, "'Good-bye, Soldier !', written by Ricardo Barreiro, with distinctive black and white art by Juan Giminez".

Anyone know whether this was printed in French earlier in Metal Hurlant?

(http://i.imgur.com/HNV18rf.jpg)

You can see the whole story via the link below; too similar to be a coincidence, although Brett's visuals for the ending are unbeatable...

http://theporporbooksblog.blogspot.no/2011/04/heavy-metal-magazine-april-1981-heavy.html
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Steve Green on 16 March, 2014, 09:10:38 pm
And in live action

http://vimeo.com/16838477 (http://vimeo.com/16838477)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Call-Me-Kenneth on 16 March, 2014, 09:39:43 pm
This just came up in discussion on the FB art group... The classic Gary Rice / Brett Ewins Future Shock from Prog 206, 'The Last Man' bears a striking resemblance to a story published in Heavy Metal the very same month (April 1981).   As detailed in the blog linked to below, "'Good-bye, Soldier !', written by Ricardo Barreiro, with distinctive black and white art by Juan Giminez".

Anyone know whether this was printed in French earlier in Metal Hurlant?

(http://i.imgur.com/HNV18rf.jpg)

You can see the whole story via the link below; too similar to be a coincidence, although Brett's visuals for the ending are unbeatable...

http://theporporbooksblog.blogspot.no/2011/04/heavy-metal-magazine-april-1981-heavy.html
any chance of putting up (or linking to)the future shock?

Cheers.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Graff Vynda K on 16 March, 2014, 09:50:37 pm
Here's one that's been bothering me for a while...

Radio Times, August 1975, Frank Bellamy illustrates the upcoming 'Terror of the Zygons'

(http://i.imgur.com/jXCHA5t.jpg)

...then hey presto, Trevor Goring produces the cover of Prog 38...

(http://i.imgur.com/lkQ0Inw.jpg)

Coincidence? I don't think so, Trevor! :)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Steve Green on 16 March, 2014, 10:01:36 pm
This just came up in discussion on the FB art group... The classic Gary Rice / Brett Ewins Future Shock from Prog 206, 'The Last Man' bears a striking resemblance to a story published in Heavy Metal the very same month (April 1981).   As detailed in the blog linked to below, "'Good-bye, Soldier !', written by Ricardo Barreiro, with distinctive black and white art by Juan Giminez".

Anyone know whether this was printed in French earlier in Metal Hurlant?

(http://i.imgur.com/HNV18rf.jpg)

If you just google "the last man brett ewins" it's the first 3 images (not in order)


You can see the whole story via the link below; too similar to be a coincidence, although Brett's visuals for the ending are unbeatable...

http://theporporbooksblog.blogspot.no/2011/04/heavy-metal-magazine-april-1981-heavy.html
any chance of putting up (or linking to)the future shock?

Cheers.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 16 March, 2014, 10:04:50 pm
any chance of putting up (or linking to)the future shock?

Well, here's the first page...

(http://i.imgur.com/orcNDOr.png)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 16 March, 2014, 10:55:11 pm
This just came up in discussion on the FB art group... The classic Gary Rice / Brett Ewins Future Shock from Prog 206, 'The Last Man' bears a striking resemblance to a story published in Heavy Metal the very same month (April 1981).   As detailed in the blog linked to below, "'Good-bye, Soldier !', written by Ricardo Barreiro, with distinctive black and white art by Juan Giminez".

Anyone know whether this was printed in French earlier in Metal Hurlant?

(http://i.imgur.com/HNV18rf.jpg)

You can see the whole story via the link below; too similar to be a coincidence, although Brett's visuals for the ending are unbeatable...

http://theporporbooksblog.blogspot.no/2011/04/heavy-metal-magazine-april-1981-heavy.html

Love that story! I had it in a best of Heavy Metal collection.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Steve Green on 16 March, 2014, 10:59:05 pm
Weird, I meant to say if you google "Brett Ewins Last Man" it pops up in the image search.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 28 March, 2014, 05:00:20 pm
One more?  Again, Tim White - the High Rock, Carib and now - Battak?  The book cover dates from 1979, I think - the same year as the 2000AD debut for Black Hawk.

(http://i.imgur.com/1rHWH18.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/NpXbonZ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/XrHFXRu.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 28 March, 2014, 05:37:03 pm
...and revisiting the Tim White swipe from page one, I just stumbled on this issue of Omni from 1980 - Harry Twenty appeared in 1982).

(http://i.imgur.com/vtxojww.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 28 March, 2014, 05:48:21 pm
I wonder what the incredible human carrot was!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Fungus on 28 March, 2014, 06:06:22 pm
Oh that High Rock is disappointing.
Wait a minute - what is the correct response to this....?  :)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Goosegash on 29 March, 2014, 11:48:38 am
Mmmm. If anything they seem, over the years, to be more inclined to clamp down hard on any perceived infringements/negative portrayals.


The only legal cases I've seen McDonalds take are against the competition or companies with similar branding. If anything they are very stealthy when it comes to criticism or lampooning– they took adavantage of Super Size Me by placing an ad in the trailer pointing to a McDonalds sponsored 'debate' website and eventually turned the tables by promoting their slop as a 'healthy' alternative by adding a mass-produced anemic salad choice and snack wraps (knowing well that the vast majority of people never go to McDonalds just for the salads). McDonalds yearly revenue increased after that.


What about the infamous McLibel case that dragged on for years?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLibel_case
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: The Corinthian on 29 March, 2014, 06:41:32 pm
I seem to remember Alan Moore prohibited Titan from reprinting the second Abelard Snazz story on the grounds that he'd unconsciously plagiarised it from a short story by R.A. Lafferty. (Presumably he didn't notice that 'Doctor Dibworthy's Disappointing Day' - which Titan did reprint - is basically a stripped-to-the-basics take on Lafferty's 'Thus We Frustrate Charlemagne'.)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 March, 2014, 06:46:49 pm
I seem to remember Alan Moore prohibited Titan from reprinting the second Abelard Snazz story on the grounds that he'd unconsciously plagiarised it from a short story by R.A. Lafferty. (Presumably he didn't notice that 'Doctor Dibworthy's Disappointing Day' - which Titan did reprint - is basically a stripped-to-the-basics take on Lafferty's 'Thus We Frustrate Charlemagne'.)


I don't recall Titan reprinting Doctor Dibworthy's Disappointing Day but rather The Disturbed Digestions of Doctor Dibworthy but Rebellion did reprint all Snazz and Dibworthy stories.


Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: The Corinthian on 29 March, 2014, 10:40:38 pm
I seem to remember Alan Moore prohibited Titan from reprinting the second Abelard Snazz story on the grounds that he'd unconsciously plagiarised it from a short story by R.A. Lafferty. (Presumably he didn't notice that 'Doctor Dibworthy's Disappointing Day' - which Titan did reprint - is basically a stripped-to-the-basics take on Lafferty's 'Thus We Frustrate Charlemagne'.)


I don't recall Titan reprinting Doctor Dibworthy's Disappointing Day but rather The Disturbed Digestions of Doctor Dibworthy but Rebellion did reprint all Snazz and Dibworthy stories.

I'm almost certainly mis-remembering which Dibworthy Titan reprinted; maybe Moore thought he'd plagiarised* the Disappointing Day as well but just never got round to saying so in public.

(* Just to clarify, I'm not accusing him of this; I think Lafferty was probably an influence but there's a difference between that and outright theft.)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Bazooka Joe on 06 August, 2014, 02:36:19 pm
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff387/gypsum23/1978-10-112_zps26471da8.jpg)

From Omni Magazine issue 1, 1978.

The one the left looks familiar.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Bazooka Joe on 06 August, 2014, 02:54:37 pm
Thinking about that picture, I'm not sure which came first. Was it swiped or the swiper?

Any takers?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Frank on 06 August, 2014, 03:02:29 pm
Thinking about that picture, I'm not sure which came first. Was it swiped or the swiper?

The first episode of Robusters appeared in Starlord in May 1978 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlord), and that issue of Omni hit the racks in October 1978 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omni_%28magazine%29) - the same time as the final issue of Starlord and its merger with 2000ad. I'm assuming Mek-Quake featured in the Starlord episodes of Robusters, which would mean Kev O'Neill's design appeared in print first.

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 06 August, 2014, 04:17:23 pm
Thinking about that picture, I'm not sure which came first. Was it swiped or the swiper?

The first episode of Robusters appeared in Starlord in May 1978 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlord), and that issue of Omni hit the racks in October 1978 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omni_%28magazine%29) - the same time as the final issue of Starlord and its merger with 2000ad. I'm assuming Mek-Quake featured in the Starlord episodes of Robusters, which would mean Kev O'Neill's design appeared in print first.

Mek-Quake is indeed in most of the Starlord episodes (including the earliest). The cover to Mek-Memoirs fom 1976 has an even earlier proto-Mek Quake byO'Neill.

(http://www.djfood.org/djfood/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/mek_memoirs-cover.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 06 August, 2014, 04:22:07 pm
I love this thread
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Spikes on 06 August, 2014, 05:44:02 pm
Thinking about that picture, I'm not sure which came first. Was it swiped or the swiper?

Any takers?

Is the artist for that painting Angus McKie?
I had thought it had been used in one of the TTA books, but on digging the books out, its not the same, but does share some similarities. (The TTA book is from '79, btw.)


(http://i.imgur.com/HB3gNEI.jpg)

TTA was famous for using images that had been around for a good few years previous, so unless it was commissioned directly for use in that issue of Omni, its kinda hard to date - well, without an artists name, etc..
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Bazooka Joe on 06 August, 2014, 06:18:02 pm

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Is the artist for that painting Angus McKie?

Yes it is
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Grugz on 06 August, 2014, 06:22:43 pm
reminded me a bit of chris foss.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Colin YNWA on 06 August, 2014, 09:51:48 pm

Is the artist for that painting Angus McKie?
I had thought it had been used in one of the TTA books, but on digging the books out, its not the same, but does share some similarities. (The TTA book is from '79, btw.)


(http://i.imgur.com/HB3gNEI.jpg)

TTA was famous for using images that had been around for a good few years previous, so unless it was commissioned directly for use in that issue of Omni, its kinda hard to date - well, without an artists name, etc..

I think I used to own that book... or my brother did. I really remember that picture? What's the cover if you don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Spikes on 06 August, 2014, 10:04:18 pm
The book in question is Great Space Battles. Click on the linky for a look (http://www.terrantradeauthority.com/tta-books-2/great-space-battles/)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Colin YNWA on 07 August, 2014, 06:21:38 am
Ha! That's the fella. We had another similar book which had schematic type things of space craft (I think) with those sort of Chris Foss pictures that was great too.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Frank on 07 August, 2014, 06:47:17 am
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Is the artist for that painting Angus McKie?

Yes it is

The same Angus McKie who coloured Gibbons on Give Me Liberty and taught Brian Bolland how to draw on the computer? UK comics are like the Laurel Canyon music scene, aren't they?

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 07 August, 2014, 08:56:23 am
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Is the artist for that painting Angus McKie?

Yes it is

The same Angus McKie who coloured Gibbons on Give Me Liberty and taught Brian Bolland how to draw on the computer? UK comics are like the Laurel Canyon music scene, aren't they?

Angus McKie has also had a few colouring gigs for Tharg over the years...

http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=ANGUSM
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Proudhuff on 11 August, 2014, 11:17:40 am
Mr McNeil saluted by the Guriardian?

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/8/1/1406898845276/The-Guide-cover-001.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_o0H5SdZtXHs/TMGjFkTnPTI/AAAAAAAAAAY/8f_xqHvYZcQ/S220/hiex-adimage-CM%5B2%5Dweb.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 11 August, 2014, 12:09:34 pm
Mr McNeil saluted by the Guriardian?

Are you referring to the image below?

(http://i.imgur.com/nGLdbpn.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Proudhuff on 11 August, 2014, 02:16:29 pm
trying to... :-[
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 11 August, 2014, 05:42:09 pm
trying to... :-[

Well, I instantly knew what you were on about and I imagine most others would as well (or should).

 :)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 11 August, 2014, 07:11:49 pm
Lesson below:

MacNeil should do all the posters.

Not just for Ediburgh Fringe but FOR

EVERYTHING




EVER
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 25 August, 2014, 12:13:03 pm
Pulp magazine cover used for a recent Leigh Brackett collection:

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/Lobo_Baggins/MarsAmazon_zps73653dac.jpg) (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/Lobo_Baggins/media/MarsAmazon_zps73653dac.jpg.html)

From the Time Twister 'Avenging Kong meets Laurel and Hardy', prog 313:

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/Lobo_Baggins/Kong_zps99f3f75a.jpg) (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/Lobo_Baggins/media/Kong_zps99f3f75a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: TordelBack on 25 August, 2014, 03:01:23 pm
Amazing spot, Lobo!  And what a great cover.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 25 August, 2014, 04:11:58 pm
Amazing spot, Lobo!  And what a great cover.

What he said.

That's a great find and a wonderful addition to what's become a rather fascinating thread!

 :)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 25 August, 2014, 04:38:24 pm
And what a great cover.

It is, isn't it?

Although - a fierce looking woman clad entirely in armour standing in front of a large chested man wearing only some leather straps, his face contorted in fear... truly, Mars is a world of madness!  Madness, I tell 'ee!

Also, they're both facing to the left.  No one can face to the left, it's just impossible.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Frank on 25 August, 2014, 05:06:27 pm

Fourthed, although the redhead with the tumbling locks in the original is a pretty obvious Rita Hayworth swipe:


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ADsTVFn-cho/USO3wEw9PpI/AAAAAAAAJEM/ihOLRze8p9c/s1600/gildahairflip.gif)

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Spikes on 25 August, 2014, 05:07:48 pm
Is there owt that appeared in the prog that wasn't plundered from somewhere else!?!   ;)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 26 August, 2014, 09:15:07 am
Is there owt that appeared in the prog that wasn't plundered from somewhere else!?!   ;)

Trash.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: japandroid on 27 August, 2014, 03:02:58 pm

Is the artist for that painting Angus McKie?
I had thought it had been used in one of the TTA books, but on digging the books out, its not the same, but does share some similarities. (The TTA book is from '79, btw.)


(http://i.imgur.com/HB3gNEI.jpg)

TTA was famous for using images that had been around for a good few years previous, so unless it was commissioned directly for use in that issue of Omni, its kinda hard to date - well, without an artists name, etc..

I think I used to own that book... or my brother did. I really remember that picture? What's the cover if you don't mind me asking?
A personal fave and the first place I saw it.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/japandroid/hmmar79_zpsc1ba51ef.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/japandroid/media/hmmar79_zpsc1ba51ef.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: japandroid on 27 August, 2014, 03:04:57 pm
Mr Austin and a photo of Ms Shilleto, maybe?

(http://i40.tinypic.com/1zwjma1.jpg)

Any idea who she is?
Susanna Hoffs! ;)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 09 September, 2014, 04:39:32 pm
Via the eagle eyes of Albert Hammond-Bootleg: spotted at the British Museum... Rinus Limpopop Quintz.

(http://i.imgur.com/akgS9FW.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/J8ovFkV.jpg)

Great find!

 :)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 09 September, 2014, 04:43:07 pm
A great find indeed :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Colin YNWA on 09 September, 2014, 07:26:37 pm
Ha! That is fantastic. Very good spot.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Spikes on 09 September, 2014, 09:59:54 pm
Fantastic spot, indeed.

Looking back, i'm sure i saw this (not trying to take owt away from the eagle eyed Mr Bootleg) last year in the British Museum, but it didnt fully sink in, for some reason. Though i do recall thinking "hey up....!?! Nar, it cant be..." and then moving on to the next display.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Bubba Zebill on 09 September, 2014, 10:41:52 pm
Rinus Limpopop Quintz !!! :o
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Fungus on 09 September, 2014, 11:00:58 pm
Brilliant spot :)

I think most of us would recognise that face but not quite be able to place it....
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Bolt-01 on 10 September, 2014, 03:53:36 pm
Yeah, but were Wagner/Grant/Smith trying to imply that Rinus has been to earth, plying his wares as an onest trader in the past? And that this mode of dress was the local way of honouring his visit?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 10 September, 2014, 04:03:06 pm
I can't believe they copied Ron Smith!  It just goes to show what a legend he is, eh?   :D
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: japandroid on 15 September, 2014, 01:54:52 pm
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/japandroid/rook8_zps5ccf4183.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/japandroid/media/rook8_zps5ccf4183.jpg.html)
Swiped FROM 2000AD!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 15 September, 2014, 02:16:15 pm
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/hires/76.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: SuperSurfer on 15 September, 2014, 02:19:49 pm
Beat me to it Dark Jimbo.

Very naughty (the copy, not you.)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: smiffy on 15 September, 2014, 02:50:11 pm
I'm a massive Gibson fan and to avoid any confusion it's worth noting that that Rook comic was published after the 2000ad one: http://www.comicvine.com/the-rook-8/4000-161981/ :)

Edited to say that I've just spotted the "swiped from 2000ad" bit under japandroid's post... Ignore this post, please. Durr.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: japandroid on 15 September, 2014, 03:11:42 pm
When I first saw that Rook 8 cover back in the 90's it came in a big pile of old Warren mags. I just assumed it was the other way round as I always associated Warren with the 60's ad 70's.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dandontdare on 15 September, 2014, 04:34:34 pm
Ah, I was thinking "apocalypse war sentinoid", but that robohunter droid is even closer.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 15 September, 2014, 06:37:46 pm
Swiped FROM 2000AD!

What a great find!  This thread never ceases to amaze me...  Great stuff.

 :)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: japandroid on 10 October, 2014, 07:47:56 pm
Berni Wrightson Swamp Thing
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/japandroid/swampy_zps602006ce.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/japandroid/media/swampy_zps602006ce.jpg.html)
Brett Ewins 2000AD Annual '79
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag70/japandroid/SAM_6240_new_zps7c4debbc.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/japandroid/media/SAM_6240_new_zps7c4debbc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 20 October, 2014, 10:34:13 am
We were in Toys R Expensive on the weekend trying to get some Christmas shopping organised.

I saw a toy of a Skylander's character called Jawbreaker.  I can't find a picture of it but this illustration is spot on.  It reminds me of Mongrol.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x418/Dash_Decent/SkylandersJawbreaker_zpsc0d41de8.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 January, 2015, 09:19:22 pm


Published 1975 (http://www.amazon.com/2000-D-Illustrations-science-fiction/dp/0809281171/ref=la_B001H9PXHI_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1422738916&sr=1-2)


(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/2000AD_zpsfaa2015c.jpg)



Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Colin YNWA on 31 January, 2015, 09:24:57 pm
Wow intriguing find. How on earth did you stumble across that?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 January, 2015, 09:35:12 pm
Wow intriguing find. How on earth did you stumble across that?

Accidentally on purpose.

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 31 January, 2015, 09:39:40 pm
No, seriously, how?

Never seen that before.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 31 January, 2015, 09:40:06 pm
Gives new meaning to "2000ad swipe file"
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ZenArcade on 31 January, 2015, 10:00:47 pm
The drug Omnidrene in the page 10 swipe 'Goodbye soldier' is swiped from the anger enhancing drug Omnidrene in Norman Spinnard's 'The Men in the Jungle'. Z
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Spikes on 01 February, 2015, 01:17:31 pm
Everyone's at it! (http://www.cracked.com/article_21898_5-famous-authors-who-stole-their-biggest-ideas.html?utm_source=FBTraffic&utm_medium=fijifrost&utm_campaign=CMfacebook)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: hippynumber1 on 01 February, 2015, 01:41:05 pm


Published 1975 (http://www.amazon.com/2000-D-Illustrations-science-fiction/dp/0809281171/ref=la_B001H9PXHI_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1422738916&sr=1-2)


(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/2000AD_zpsfaa2015c.jpg)

I've seen this floating around e-bay for a while and didn't even give it a second look!  :-[
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: maryanddavid on 09 February, 2015, 11:34:58 pm
Another swipe, from 2000AD
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Bolt-01 on 10 February, 2015, 11:35:30 am
Is that a Simon Jacobs cover?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 10 February, 2015, 12:08:12 pm
Is that a Simon Jacobs cover?

Alan Burrows, apparently.

http://www.comicvine.com/eagle-471/4000-315081/


And just for anyone not sure what this is swiped from...

(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/87.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 10 February, 2015, 01:03:20 pm
Were they bring published by the same company at the time, though?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 10 February, 2015, 01:11:38 pm
Were they bring published by the same company at the time, though?

Nope.  In March 1991, 2000AD was being published by Rebellion while IPC was responsible for the Eagle.  At least according to Comic Vine.

http://www.comicvine.com/2000-ad-722-prog-722/4000-127762/

http://www.comicvine.com/eagle-471/4000-315081/
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: IronGraham on 10 February, 2015, 01:21:50 pm
Were they bring published by the same company at the time, though?

Nope.  In March 1991, 2000AD was being published by Rebellion while IPC was responsible for the Eagle.  At least according to Comic Vine.

http://www.comicvine.com/2000-ad-722-prog-722/4000-127762/ (http://www.comicvine.com/2000-ad-722-prog-722/4000-127762/)

http://www.comicvine.com/eagle-471/4000-315081/ (http://www.comicvine.com/eagle-471/4000-315081/)

Hmm me thinks Comics vine might be mistaken
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 10 February, 2015, 01:24:46 pm
in 1991 2000ad was not published by Rebellion. It was published by IPC I think. Then it changed to Maxwell group. Then Egmont Fleetway in about 94 then Rebellion in 2000. . . . this is all from half remembered memory and I am probably wrong. But it certainly not Rebellion.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 10 February, 2015, 01:26:27 pm
in 1991 2000ad was not published by Rebellion. It was published by IPC I think. Then it changed to Maxwell group. Then Egmont Fleetway in about 94 then Rebellion in 2000. . . . this is all from half remembered memory and I am probably wrong. But it certainly not Rebellion.

I suspected as much but I have no particular grasp on the dates of the changeovers, really.  Anyway, a swipe's a swipe!

 :)

EDIT: having just checked, Rebellion took over in 2000, which makes sense...
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 10 February, 2015, 01:27:26 pm
in 1991 2000ad was not published by Rebellion. It was published by IPC I think. Then it changed to Maxwell group. Then Egmont Fleetway in about 94 then Rebellion in 2000. . . . this is all from half remembered memory and I am probably wrong. But it certainly not Rebellion.

I suspected as much but I have no particular grasp on the dates of the changeovers, really.  Anyway, a swipe's a swipe!

 :)

Where is dark Bishop when you need him!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 10 February, 2015, 01:30:14 pm
1977      IPC
1987      IPC > Fleetway
1991      Fleetway > Egmont
2000      Egmont > Rebellion

I think.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Staz Johnson on 15 February, 2015, 01:45:31 pm
I find this thread fascinating, especially the instances of early 2000AD artists borrowing from those mid-70's sci-fi paperback cover artists. Here's my two penneth on the subject, all observations on Rogue trooper, & the first one is one of those paperback cover artists being an influence.

This was one of Chris Foss' rejected designs for the Leviathan (the spaceship from ALIEN), which he recycled to use for the cover of his own artbook.

(http://i61.tinypic.com/29wswfo.jpg)

Which later shows up in a Mike Dorey drawn Rogue Trooper story...

(http://i57.tinypic.com/2dt9ch0.jpg)

 Now, bit of a long lead up to the next two, so apologies in advance. Back in '82-ish, I managed to blag a meeting with Robin Smith (2000AD's then art editor) at King's Reach Tower. During the meeting he asked me which 2000AD artists I liked, Colin Wilson's name came up & I said I liked the way he drew tech-stuff, how (to my eyes) it was like Chris Foss with all the panel lines etc. Robin rejected that as an influence on Colin but said that he did rip off a "shit-hot war artist called Ian Kennedy". At the time I wasn't familiar with Ian Kennedy's name (though I must have seen his work in the pages of Commando) so I was left wondering exactly what he meant. Recently I got a copy of Bear Alley Books reprint trade of 'Frontline UK', a strip which feature Ian Kennedy's art in Battle. While going through the volume, a couple of panels jumped out as familiar, this panel...

(http://i62.tinypic.com/yjxc4.jpg)

with the addition of a few extra gun barrels etc forms the basis of this image by Colin Wilson, 

(http://i58.tinypic.com/10i9or4.jpg)

and this image of a fuel tanker

(http://i60.tinypic.com/ta1zt4.jpg)

becomes this explosive panel by Colin Wilson...

(http://i57.tinypic.com/inqps4.jpg)

... so maybe Robin Smith did have a point, & it just goes to show that in the hands of a really talented artist who can bring his own spin to the work, swiping isn't such a crime.

While scanning these images, it occurred to me how many figures from Brett Ewins' first Rogue strip were straight swipes for Dave Gibbons & Colin Wilson panels, but since that was probably an editorial recommendation for continuity's sake & because I'm sure everyone on the forums is familiar with them, I didn't think they were worth including.





Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Spikes on 15 February, 2015, 02:04:20 pm
While scanning these images, it occurred to me how many figures from Brett Ewins' first Rogue strip were straight swipes for Dave Gibbons & Colin Wilson panels, but since that was probably an editorial recommendation for continuity's sake & because I'm sure everyone on the forums is familiar with them, I didn't think they were worth including.

Now, I love a bit of Brett's work, but it has to be said, he didn't half copy from other's a lot. Rogue, Dredd, various Future Shock's.....
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 February, 2015, 02:09:12 pm
Those trucks and tanks panels are very similar but still both rather amazing to look at IMHO.

There's nothing new in Rock and Roll folks!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: TordelBack on 15 February, 2015, 02:14:13 pm
You're the Rogue pro Staz and I defer to your expertise, but from my humble perspective I don't see those images as even vaguely similar - if the 'pose' has been swiped, maybe, but almost every detail is different beyond the basic idea of 'tank' and 'tanker'. Should note that I love both Kennedy and Wilson.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 February, 2015, 02:28:09 pm
There certainly does seem to be singular points that persuasively indicate swipage in those images: the tankers on the trucks have almost identical angle of action, shading and design; the tank-turrets have similar attributes plus some identical details shaded in stark relief, but what stops them dead from being blatant robbery is that Wilson has extrapolated way beyond these points to create his own remarkable panels.

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Staz Johnson on 15 February, 2015, 02:29:48 pm
You're the Rogue pro Staz and I defer to your expertise, but from my humble perspective I don't see those images as even vaguely similar - if the 'pose' has been swiped, maybe, but almost every detail is different beyond the basic idea of 'tank' and 'tanker'. Should note that I love both Kennedy and Wilson.

In my experience most 'swipes' tend to fall into this bracket, rather than a straight trace. But Wilson has definitely borrowed from those Kennedy images, from the actual inking technique, to the lighting... he has sci-fi'ed them up somewhat, but that's the point I was making.. if you're going to swipe, bring something of yourself to the party to make it your own.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Colin YNWA on 15 February, 2015, 05:16:22 pm
Of more importance than any of this swipey type talk thanks for the heads up about the Frontline UK reprint, never heard of that before and since I'm lovin' all of Hibneria's output I'm thinking this has got to be worth a go. Anyone read it?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Staz Johnson on 15 February, 2015, 05:38:13 pm
Of more importance than any of this swipey type talk thanks for the heads up about the Frontline UK reprint, never heard of that before and since I'm lovin' all of Hibneria's output I'm thinking this has got to be worth a go. Anyone read it?
I have (obviously) & I enjoyed it, baring in mind the strip was originally aimed at a young juvenile audience, so it's not the most sophisticated storytelling ever. The artwork, however is superb (as you might expect), & there's some interesting articles on the creators & origin of the strip.

Regarding my original post, I find the Chris Foss 'swipe' (for want of a better word) far more interesting, & if I ever get asked to do a strip with spaceships again, you can bet I'll be borrowing heavily from those classic 70's paperback cover artists, & making no secret of it. Those guys were just brilliant!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 15 February, 2015, 06:43:11 pm
Of more importance than any of this swipey type talk thanks for the heads up about the Frontline UK reprint, never heard of that before and since I'm lovin' all of Hibneria's output I'm thinking this has got to be worth a go. Anyone read it?
Bear Ally have put out a collection of material from The Crunch as well called Arena. Need to get around to these at some point.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 16 February, 2015, 10:17:40 am
Of more importance than any of this swipey type talk thanks for the heads up about the Frontline UK reprint, never heard of that before and since I'm lovin' all of Hibneria's output I'm thinking this has got to be worth a go. Anyone read it?

It's in the reading pile but I haven't got to it yet (Dredd Urban Warfare and The Royals Masters of War are on the go at the moment).  You can see some interior spreads and order it from here: http://bearalleybooks.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/frontline-uk.html (http://bearalleybooks.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/frontline-uk.html)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Staz Johnson on 16 February, 2015, 06:17:54 pm

Nighthawks by Hopper has to be one of the most referenced and homaged pieces of art in the comics field. There's countless examples of it being used... no I don't have any to hand you'll just have to trust me...

I do trust you, but the only one I can think of is this by Dave Mazzucchelli from Batman: Year One, however, I'm no comics historian...

(http://i62.tinypic.com/vr3hwk.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 16 February, 2015, 06:37:25 pm
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r182/Caliban_photos/Nighthawksmaybe_zps6b85d475.jpg)

Maybe it is
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 16 February, 2015, 07:23:38 pm
Not exactly a swipe but...

Front cover of the book of the film Moonraker, which, to avoid confusion, is named 'James Bond and Moonraker' in true Doctor Who novelisation style rather than Moonraker as it isn't remotely a film of the original book...

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/Lobo_Baggins/MoonrakerMovieNovel_zpsgthmqdmd.jpg) (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/Lobo_Baggins/media/MoonrakerMovieNovel_zpsgthmqdmd.jpg.html)

Front cover of prog 119, which saw the first episode of the ABC Warriors and the return of Dan Dare - not to mention the beginning of Disaster 1990 - which had some recycled artwork of Roger Moore zooming through space WITHOUT A HELMET ON!

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/Lobo_Baggins/prog119_zpsm2j4hsom.jpg) (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/Lobo_Baggins/media/prog119_zpsm2j4hsom.jpg.html)

How does he breathe? HOW DOES HE BREATHE?!?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 16 February, 2015, 09:36:11 pm
Power of the comb over.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Link Prime on 17 February, 2015, 12:52:26 pm
DC Comics swipe Tharg!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Fungus on 17 February, 2015, 04:05:34 pm
BIG JOBS !!!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Ursula K on 22 March, 2015, 03:47:52 am
Not sure I'm doing this right, but here goes...

I always thought the scout-plane in The Masks of Arazzor (Prog #241, late 1982) looked similar(ish) to a 1970s Battlestar Galactica Viper...

Something about the placement of the three engines around the cockpit and the snub-nose. Most likely a complete coincidence though, I mean, how many variations of basic jet plane designs are there, right?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 23 March, 2015, 11:00:39 am
Not sure I'm doing this right, but here goes...

I always thought the scout-plane in The Masks of Arazzor (Prog #241, late 1982) looked similar(ish) to a 1970s Battlestar Galactica Viper...

Something about the placement of the three engines around the cockpit and the snub-nose. Most likely a complete coincidence though, I mean, how many variations of basic jet plane designs are there, right?

Good call!  :)

(http://i.imgur.com/MrX19Gr.jpg)

(http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/moe/images/moe_0940_title.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dandontdare on 23 March, 2015, 11:17:38 am
indeed - though they've added a gun to the jet engine's air intake, which I'm not sure is an awfully good idea, design-wise!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: The Adventurer on 23 March, 2015, 08:51:23 pm
I vaguely recall the fighter craft in 86ers heavily reminding me of colonial Vipers. Only perhaps without wings.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Link Prime on 23 March, 2015, 09:00:31 pm
I vaguely recall the fighter craft in 86ers heavily reminding me of colonial Vipers. Only perhaps without wings.

There was a definite BSG influence to The 86ers.
Fun series.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 23 March, 2015, 09:42:50 pm
indeed - though they've added a gun to the jet engine's air intake, which I'm not sure is an awfully good idea, design-wise!

 :lol:
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Jacqusie on 24 March, 2015, 12:26:55 am
Mr Austin and a photo of Ms Shilleto, maybe?

(http://i40.tinypic.com/1zwjma1.jpg)


Aha! I knew I hadn't made this one up...

I remember seeing this in a Jazz mag in '91 & they had a laugh at the artists 'good taste' in models to crib from... It also explained why it looked nothing LIKE Anderson on the story inside and the artists preffered reading material at the time...

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Spikes on 14 April, 2015, 04:38:23 pm
Re-reading the Shamballa book from the Mega collection, I was reminded that the spaceship Anderson uses at the end of The Jesus Syndrome story, bears more than a passing resemblance to the Narcissus shuttle from the first Alien film

(http://i.imgur.com/Ow7NlCt.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Ow7NlCt)


(http://i.imgur.com/7lT7CQO.jpg) (http://imgur.com/7lT7CQO)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Richmond Clements on 14 April, 2015, 05:57:12 pm
Re-reading the Shamballa book from the Mega collection, I was reminded that the spaceship Anderson uses at the end of The Jesus Syndrome story, bears more than a passing resemblance to the Narcissus shuttle from the first Alien film

(http://i.imgur.com/Ow7NlCt.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Ow7NlCt)


(http://i.imgur.com/7lT7CQO.jpg) (http://imgur.com/7lT7CQO)

Gah! That's it! I knew it was familiar..!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 15 April, 2015, 02:33:50 pm
Not technically 2000 AD, but...

Front cover, Tornado issue 17 - 'The Money Shop'...

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/Lobo_Baggins/Tornado17_zpssjymxnog.jpg) (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/Lobo_Baggins/media/Tornado17_zpssjymxnog.jpg.html)

Count Arthur Strong...

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/Lobo_Baggins/arthur1_zpsowgs0uwc.jpg) (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/Lobo_Baggins/media/arthur1_zpsowgs0uwc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Fungus on 15 April, 2015, 02:52:01 pm
And my street has a No 17 too!
Plagiarists!!!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 30 April, 2015, 12:09:07 am
Arthur Ranson's ship in The Jesus Syndrome

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x32/scowling_monkey/4B63AA36-E508-4F7F-BB8D-5B64E95288BE_zpsvp7alhpa.jpg) (http://s186.photobucket.com/user/scowling_monkey/media/4B63AA36-E508-4F7F-BB8D-5B64E95288BE_zpsvp7alhpa.jpg.html)

bears a striking resemblance to the Narcissus, the escape pod from the Nostromo.

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x32/scowling_monkey/03942365-ADC8-458E-B1C5-9148F55F2E13_zpsvn7tvv7z.jpg) (http://s186.photobucket.com/user/scowling_monkey/media/03942365-ADC8-458E-B1C5-9148F55F2E13_zpsvn7tvv7z.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 30 April, 2015, 12:10:07 am
Ah crap. Just noticed someone beat me to it!!!!    :lol:
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 30 April, 2015, 01:19:49 pm
I think you've just swiped from the swipe file!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: james newell on 03 May, 2015, 12:29:05 am
Swipe or homage ?

(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/2/23749/423838-91393_20070421203543_large.jpg)

Rich Larson


(https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1399/64/1399645770933.jpg)

Simon Bisley original

all though I  am a bit guilty of this my self: http://jamescnewell.blogspot.ie/2000/09/james-newell-covers-abc-warriors-book-4.html (http://jamescnewell.blogspot.ie/2000/09/james-newell-covers-abc-warriors-book-4.html)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Greg M. on 03 May, 2015, 12:30:32 am
On the basis it is from the same strip, I think homage is a safe bet.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 06 August, 2015, 09:45:08 am
Prog 76 (August 1978): Robo Hunter's first appearance featured a rather familiar looking spacecraft.....

(http://i.imgur.com/poHn8kY.jpg)

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Albion on 16 September, 2015, 09:02:12 pm
A.B.C. Warriors Prog 573. It's Vincent from The Black Hole!

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/albion79uk/bfdf4ce140f224218b418ef4df145f26_zpssubklfvz.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 16 September, 2015, 09:07:49 pm
'I have nice sister.'  :lol:
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Albion on 16 September, 2015, 09:14:40 pm
In another panel he's selling "dirty postcards"!  :D

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/albion79uk/b02695a92648377fc397b2e9392452df_zpshyu4qems.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 20 September, 2015, 01:44:59 pm
Front cover, Prog 140...

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/Lobo_Baggins/Prog140_zps9djzn1si.jpg) (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/Lobo_Baggins/media/Prog140_zps9djzn1si.jpg.html)

Front cover, STar Trek: The Motion Picture A Marvel Super Special Magazine...

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/Lobo_Baggins/Marvel%20Super%20Special_zps7hmth1sa.jpg) (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/Lobo_Baggins/media/Marvel%20Super%20Special_zps7hmth1sa.jpg.html)

Possibly taken from the same source image rather than one copying the other, though, but I'm pretty sure it's the same image (there's either some sort of weird shortening effect at the back, or the engine nacelles are in the wrong place).  And what's going on with that ship's registration on the prog?  The 1's are backwards and the registration ought to be NCC 1701 rather than 1701 NCC... has it been flipped about and then bodged around?  The more I look at it the weirder it seems.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 20 September, 2015, 08:26:02 pm
Cor, that cover's a bit of a mess all round. So much text! So many different fonts!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: sheridan on 21 September, 2015, 12:25:10 am
Cor, that cover's a bit of a mess all round. So much text! So many different fonts!
I count five, plus another four which are part of logos (Star Trek, 2000AD and Tornado, Dinky and The Stainless Steel Rat).  Changing the colours and putting in the odd piece of italics doesn't help.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 21 September, 2015, 08:40:19 pm
Cor, that cover's a bit of a mess all round. So much text! So many different fonts!

Aye, I get the distinct impression that the Stainless Steel Rat cover from prog 141 was supposed to coincide with the start of the story, but wasn't ready yet and that one is very much a swiftly put together emergency measure.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: SuperSurfer on 21 September, 2015, 09:37:51 pm
Aye, I get the distinct impression that the Stainless Steel Rat cover from prog 141 was supposed to coincide with the start of the story, but wasn't ready yet and that one is very much a swiftly put together emergency measure.
Or more likely some suit in advertising sales leant on editorial, having closed a deal that just couldn't be refused. And to hell with an aesthetically pleasing front cover in what was a great era for covers.

I'm curious as to who drew that USS Enterprise. I wonder if it's actually from the Marvel Super Special Lobo posted the front cover of. See internal pages and the inking style which to me looks like it could be by Tony DeZuniga:
http://marvel1980s.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/1979-marvel-super-special-15-star-trek.html

Some more prog tv/film/toy tie-in covers:
http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=covers&page=character&choice=FILM&Comic=2000ad
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 21 September, 2015, 10:12:08 pm
I'm not sure that something officially recognised - like a movie Enterprise from a Star Trek movie - is really a swipe. Is it?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: sheridan on 21 September, 2015, 11:19:37 pm
I'm not sure that something officially recognised - like a movie Enterprise from a Star Trek movie - is really a swipe. Is it?
I don't think it's a swipe at all - surely the defining feature of a swipe is that it's illicit?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: SuperSurfer on 22 September, 2015, 12:07:44 am
No not a swipe. Interesting find though.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 22 September, 2015, 08:07:16 am
I'm not sure that something officially recognised - like a movie Enterprise from a Star Trek movie - is really a swipe. Is it?
I'd say that most of the stuff appearing in this thread isn't true swiping - most of it it homage and there's occasionally some recycling going on.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 22 September, 2015, 08:24:22 am
I'm curious as to who drew that USS Enterprise. I wonder if it's actually from the Marvel Super Special Lobo posted the front cover of.
The planet in the background looks very Belardinelli, and the Speedo Ghost is very prone to similar 'lens flaring' whenever it appears on the cover - however, the star scape is nearly identical to the one in 'Star Lord's Guide to the Galaxy' on the back cover of the same issue, which is drawn by Dave Gibbons.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 22 September, 2015, 08:27:43 am
I'm not sure that something officially recognised - like a movie Enterprise from a Star Trek movie - is really a swipe. Is it?
I'd say that most of the stuff appearing in this thread isn't true swiping - most of it it homage and there's occasionally some recycling going on.

Yeah, but there are some startling cases of things from 2000AD that I've been familiar with for decades suddenly having another origin (the High Rock and The Last Man Future Shock, f'rinstance).

Out of curiosity, which things would you consider as swipes?  Is the Feek a homage?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 22 September, 2015, 02:33:19 pm
For me a true swipe is clandestine in nature. It is taking something else and passing it off as your own. In the past, it might have been calculated that distance would give anonymity and protection - who was going to even know that your robot for a 70s UK comic was a riff on an illustration from 40s US pulp? But that was before the internet and the fun of having these things shown up.

There are also homages or knowing uses - like Deadlock or the Enterprise above - where the source may not be obvious to the reader but there was no attempt by the artist to disguise their source.

Then there are in-jokes, like the Vincent robots in ABC warriors. These are artistic easter eggs and just fun to see but, again, the artist isn't really meaning to claim they designed the thing.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: sheridan on 22 September, 2015, 02:39:59 pm
For me a true swipe is clandestine in nature. It is taking something else and passing it off as your own. In the past, it might have been calculated that distance would give anonymity and protection - who was going to even know that your robot for a 70s UK comic was a riff on an illustration from 40s US pulp? But that was before the internet and the fun of having these things shown up.

There are also homages or knowing uses - like Deadlock or the Enterprise above - where the source may not be obvious to the reader but there was no attempt by the artist to disguise their source.

Then there are in-jokes, like the Vincent robots in ABC warriors. These are artistic easter eggs and just fun to see but, again, the artist isn't really meaning to claim they designed the thing.


I endorse this post, and all who sail in it.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 22 September, 2015, 06:16:34 pm
I just spotted this last week, hunting through some old progs.  Mike Dorey obviously had some "Blake's 7" photos in his reference file, as demonstrated by "Psi-Testers" in prog 408:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x418/Dash_Decent/Prog408clipgunpanel_zpsfc772561.jpg)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x418/Dash_Decent/PDgun_zps7d4be39a.jpg)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x418/Dash_Decent/scorpio1_zpsf397f578.jpg)

The Scorpio Clip Guns fired six types of bullet (laser, plasma bullet, percussion charge, micro grenade, stun and drug) you know...
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 22 September, 2015, 06:34:08 pm
Out of curiosity, which things would you consider as swipes?  Is the Feek a homage?

Some of this is also artists being inspired - although I think in Belardinelli's case Tharg kept a tighter control on the design of the main characters because when left to his own devices Massimo would produce something utterly mad.  I seem to recall a story (admittedly, I can't remember where I remember it from!) about the original design for Battak in Blackhawk getting rejected for being too weird, which would explain why the final version was copied from the paperback cover further up the thread.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: TordelBack on 22 September, 2015, 06:45:06 pm
The Scorpio gun itself very clearly a swipe of Han Solo's DL-44 heavy blaster, itself a disguised Mauser C96 (from 1896).
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 23 September, 2015, 01:49:41 am
I'm told the Scorpio clip guns also got reused in "The Two Ronnies" mini serial, "The Worm that Turned", so perhaps it was a lift from The Two Ronnies!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Colin YNWA on 23 September, 2015, 09:46:06 am
I'm told the Scorpio clip guns also got reused in "The Two Ronnies" mini serial, "The Worm that Turned", so perhaps it was a lift from The Two Ronnies!

For some reason I find that obscure fact indecently cool... which is a little sad, but its GREAT!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: sheridan on 23 September, 2015, 01:00:17 pm
I'm told the Scorpio clip guns also got reused in "The Two Ronnies" mini serial, "The Worm that Turned", so perhaps it was a lift from The Two Ronnies!


This one?


(http://www.gmanx.com/ImageBank/E11_TwoRonnies.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: James Stacey on 23 September, 2015, 01:08:21 pm
Is that Barbara Castle in the background?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 23 September, 2015, 01:31:20 pm
I'm told the Scorpio clip guns also got reused in "The Two Ronnies" mini serial, "The Worm that Turned", so perhaps it was a lift from The Two Ronnies!

Unlikely, unfortunately - 'The Worm that Turned' was broadcast at the beginning of 1980, Blake's 7 series 4 didn't start production until 1981. But odder things have happened in 1980 - here's young Steve Dillon in Doctor Who Weekly BLATANTLY TRACING screengrabs of Jenna Coleman to play the part of Princess Taiyin!

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/Lobo_Baggins/princessclara_zps3bea3f24.jpg) (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/Lobo_Baggins/media/princessclara_zps3bea3f24.jpg.html)

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/Lobo_Baggins/Snap_zpsidub2nek.jpg) (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/Lobo_Baggins/media/Snap_zpsidub2nek.jpg.html)

I'm sure Tharg must have had a few choice words about such a blatant disregard for the laws of continuity!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 23 September, 2015, 01:31:34 pm
Is that Barbara Castle in the background?

I don't know, I've never been to Barbara Castle. I've heard they've got a great little gift shop, though - much better than the one at Shirley's Temple.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 23 September, 2015, 01:34:13 pm
(http://www.gmanx.com/ImageBank/E11_TwoRonnies.jpg)

Is that a stormtrooper rifle painted silver and modified a bit?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: sheridan on 23 September, 2015, 04:11:26 pm
Is that Barbara Castle in the background?

I don't know, I've never been to Barbara Castle. I've heard they've got a great little gift shop, though - much better than the one at Shirley's Temple.


I've been to Vanessa Paradis, but I've never been to Meatloaf.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 24 September, 2015, 12:49:21 am
You are Charlene and I claim my five galactic groats.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: TordelBack on 24 September, 2015, 07:23:08 am
Is that a stormtrooper rifle painted silver and modified a bit?

Or a Sterling SMG with some gubbins attached, and painted silver. So yes, a stormtrooper rifle.

I adored The Worm That Turned as a kid, and may even have taken it a bit seriously, but nothing topped the Phantom Raspberry Blower of London Town, which may have been the highpoint of my week at some point in the mid-70s. Does it make an appearance in From Hell: Dance of the Gull Catchers? I can't recall, but it definitely should.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 24 September, 2015, 07:53:22 am
Is that a stormtrooper rifle painted silver and modified a bit?

Or a Sterling SMG with some gubbins attached, and painted silver. So yes, a stormtrooper rifle.

I adored The Worm That Turned as a kid, and may even have taken it a bit seriously, but nothing topped the Phantom Raspberry Blower of London Town, which may have been the highpoint of my week at some point in the mid-70s. Does it make an appearance in From Hell: Dance of the Gull Catchers? I can't recall, but it definitely should.

I'm with Tordels.

I hated waiting through the sketches to get to the good of drama!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 24 September, 2015, 03:34:27 pm
Is that a stormtrooper rifle painted silver and modified a bit?
Or a Sterling SMG with some gubbins attached, and painted silver. So yes, a stormtrooper rifle.

Oh yes, definitely built up from a Sterling SMG as were the stormtrooper rifles.  What I meant was, for the Two Ronnies I assume the BBC bods grabbed something they already had on the shelf and modified it a bit, spraypainted it silver and went off to film, rather than getting some Sterlings and building them up into SF guns from scratch.  I suppose what I should've asked was do any of the attached gubbins indicate these are repurposed SW props?

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 24 September, 2015, 03:37:54 pm
I'm told the Scorpio clip guns also got reused in "The Two Ronnies" mini serial, "The Worm that Turned", so perhaps it was a lift from The Two Ronnies!

Unlikely, unfortunately - 'The Worm that Turned' was broadcast at the beginning of 1980, Blake's 7 series 4 didn't start production until 1981.

Interesting!  I haven't checked myself (or even thought of checking the dates) as I assumed the person that said it had seen them on the screen for sure.  I'm going to check it out myself sometime, purely for research and nothing to do with all the women in hot pants.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Leigh S on 24 September, 2015, 07:57:17 pm
Was "The Worm that turned" a repurposed Dr Who story?  I know there simialrly themed "Prison in Space"(?) was a vetoed Troughton episode.... but was there any cross over in terms of the writers of both?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Albion on 25 September, 2015, 04:03:32 pm
Just posted on Facebook by the wonderful Dark Star brewery for their Hopfest this weekend.
Looks a bit like a certain ABC Warrior.....

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/albion79uk/c987a148184bccd5bcb77571296d50f5_zps9uzpieem.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 04 October, 2015, 08:54:04 pm
I adore the Ronnie's serials, revering them as among the best of comedy. The Worm that Turned was wonderful, as is The Phantom Raspberry Blower of Old London Town (oh that fiend!) but the Charley Farley and Piggy Malone mystery serials are just the best.

Oh...I seem to have gone of on a tangent....erm...

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Spikes on 05 October, 2015, 10:55:43 am
"We would like to apologise from the 'F' in Fog..."
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: hippynumber1 on 11 October, 2015, 11:16:33 am
Just goes to show that even the mighty Alan Moore wasn't above a spot of plagiarism. This was originally published in 'The House of Secrets' #86 June/July 1970 issue

(http://i.imgur.com/u6yqbZv.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/k8ajmh9.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Spikes on 11 October, 2015, 11:35:52 am
Just goes to show that even the mighty Alan Moore wasn't above a spot of plagiarism.

Yes, apart from this, Alan Moore's writing was totally original....  ;)

Good spot though.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Judge Brian on 11 October, 2015, 06:49:41 pm
No mention of the latest Captain Britain comic?

(http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Captain-Britain-and-the-Mighty-Defenders-1-002-1024x409.png)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 11 October, 2015, 07:04:36 pm
No mention of the latest Captain Britain comic?

Yep - http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,42433.0/topicseen.html
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Albion on 23 December, 2015, 10:07:42 pm
Prog 720. Future Shock - Retribution. Script John Tomlinson, art by Arthur Ranson.
That spaceship looks familiar.

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/albion79uk/cb5e99f81b0f2644c09fee747697e0a0_zpspe9lhwfe.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 24 December, 2015, 07:20:05 am
Very cool.  :D That Captain Britain easter egg above is also great.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Silent_Bomber on 24 December, 2015, 06:42:14 pm
I'm sure everyone around here's known this for years, but ran into this the other day in (I think) a 1970s Conan

(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc1/jesusarnold/conan.png~original) (http://s216.photobucket.com/user/jesusarnold/media/conan.png.html)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: M.I.K. on 24 December, 2015, 07:03:49 pm
Weird... It looks as if that last swipe was in the script. Must be an intentional 'homage'.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 28 December, 2015, 12:12:52 am
I think it was an intentional homage
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Spikes on 09 January, 2016, 01:00:42 am
A 2000ad related swipe spotted by David Roach (from his FB page)

(http://i.imgur.com/S8N7JlD.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/3f59GSZ.jpg)

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dandontdare on 09 January, 2016, 03:00:23 am
wow, good find.

I remember at the time thinking that it was an odd cover  - after weeks of training us to defend Earth against the invasion, this was the issue when we discovered that Starlord was just leaving us to it

 - and we got a picture of a crab-sub. Huh?









Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: sheridan on 09 January, 2016, 05:48:19 pm
wow, good find.

I remember at the time thinking that it was an odd cover  - after weeks of training us to defend Earth against the invasion, this was the issue when we discovered that Starlord was just leaving us to it

 - and we got a picture of a crab-sub. Huh?
He carried on the fight against InStellFed, including releasing some 'Info Data Control' which had been 'banned on all federated worlds' telling of their rise to power - all told in the 1981 Starlord Annual, with some of the illustrations possibly by Ian Kennedy, though if they are it looks like he didn't have a lot of time to do them.  Or more likely a bunch of spacey pictures lying around in IPC's image vaults with some copy hastily put together by an overworked sub-editor.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 09 January, 2016, 06:08:21 pm
He carried on the fight against InStellFed, including releasing some 'Info Data Control' which had been 'banned on all federated worlds' telling of their rise to power - all told in the 1981 Starlord Annual, with some of the illustrations possibly by Ian Kennedy, though if they are it looks like he didn't have a lot of time to do them.  Or more likely a bunch of spacey pictures lying around in IPC's image vaults with some copy hastily put together by an overworked sub-editor.

He should have held some of them back - by the time of the 1982 Annual, he's got a six page Stronty script then there's eighty eight pages of reprint and filler material...

(There's also a publicity picture from the Doctor Who story Mission to the Unknown which I've never seen anywhere else, probably because it's a particularly unflattering shot of Verity Lambert...)

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/Lobo_Baggins/Starlord%201981_zpsc0wzs5mz.jpg) (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/Lobo_Baggins/media/Starlord%201981_zpsc0wzs5mz.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: sheridan on 09 January, 2016, 09:25:39 pm
He carried on the fight against InStellFed, including releasing some 'Info Data Control' which had been 'banned on all federated worlds' telling of their rise to power - all told in the 1981 Starlord Annual, with some of the illustrations possibly by Ian Kennedy, though if they are it looks like he didn't have a lot of time to do them.  Or more likely a bunch of spacey pictures lying around in IPC's image vaults with some copy hastily put together by an overworked sub-editor.

He should have held some of them back - by the time of the 1982 Annual, he's got a six page Stronty script then there's eighty eight pages of reprint and filler material...
No Ro-Busters either :-(

Gary Leach's The Exterminator almost made up for the not-really Starlord-y or 2000AD-y -ness of it all though (good artwork even though it's a not particularly shocking eight-page Future Shock otherwise).
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 10 January, 2016, 09:07:01 am
Not a swipe, but a homage.

Alan Moore gave "Chronocops" (Tharg's Time Twister, prog 310) the vibe of the early Kurtzman-era MAD comics.  Dave Gibbons underlined this with his art, making the piece into a true homage to Harvey Kurtzman and artist Will Elder.

MAD parodied Dragnet twice, in the third issue (1953, based on the radio series) and in issue 11 (1954, based on the TV series).  In both cases the parody was called "Dragged Net", but it is in the second go that the main character is drawn to caricature Jack Webb, the actor playing Friday.  (Webb also originated and produced the show.)

Gibbons made sure the lead character in "Chronocops" was clearly Webb, but directly in the style of Elder.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x418/Dash_Decent/CC1_zpsq23rupf6.jpg)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x418/Dash_Decent/CC3_zpsj8ipfx1s.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 10 January, 2016, 09:08:33 am
Additionally Gibbons added references to MAD in the background.  Will Elder and Bill Gaines (MAD's publisher) are name checked.  Potrzebie is one of the Yiddish/Polish mishmash words that would crop up regularly in early MADs (along with  furshlugginer, veeblefetzer, ganef, hoo-hah, etc).

By the way Mr Gibbons, "ingredients" has an "R" in it.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x418/Dash_Decent/CC4_zps8wtam1yb.jpg)

One of the background gags in the second "Dragged Net" parody is Will Elder's mother searching through the strip for him, calling "Villie" all the while.  Here Gibbons directly points to the MAD parody by including her search for Will(y).

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x418/Dash_Decent/CC7_zpsun3yxmwe.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 10 January, 2016, 09:12:51 am
Oh, and there's the TARDIS.  It fits the time travel theme well, and of course Mr Gibbons did a lot of work drawing Dr Who strips for DW Weekly/Monthly.  I assume the honking sound is a "Beeb" rather than a "Beep" as a nod to it's BBC owners.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x418/Dash_Decent/CC8_zps0yxbzgcd.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 10 January, 2016, 09:13:39 am
The Chronocops emblem appears to be an hourglass with "CC" across the centre.  The CC is a homage to the EC logo.  It can also be seen on the time-traffic cop.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x418/Dash_Decent/CC5_zpsbc3dnq5y.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 10 January, 2016, 09:16:10 am
MAD's Joe Friday begat Moore & Gibbon's Joe Saturday, who in turn inspired the forum's own Joe Soap.  Joe Soap currently uses a photo of Jack Webb as his avatar but his earlier avatar - from "Chronocops" - was immortalised in a certain film...

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x418/Dash_Decent/CC6_zpsrus3b3nf.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 10 January, 2016, 09:18:14 am
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x418/Dash_Decent/Soap_zps4urv7xm7.gif)


(Mods, please remove if this creates any copyright angst.)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: TordelBack on 10 January, 2016, 12:27:45 pm
I didn't know some of that, and it was fantastic to see it all set out so clearly. Great work, Dash, thanks a mill.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 10 January, 2016, 01:00:22 pm
Thanks Tordelback!  It was a lot of fun to put together.  If I could edit it I would explain that EC was Gaines' company and add some examples of the "Villie!" joke from MAD no. 11. (You can see one example here, a detail from the final panel of the second "Dragged Net" parody, incorrectly ascribed to MAD no. 3 - Click! (http://www.willelder.net/art_gallery.html#).  It's not the perfect example as in this panel she says his full name (as payoff to that particular joke), whereas in the previous panels she was only crying "VILLIE" - just like we see in "Chronocops".)

Another on-going joke in the early MADs were notes saying "Call your mom - Ed".  It's only just occurred to me that they could be a callback to this joke, in response to Elder's mother searching for him.

Intriguingly, the Wikipedia entry on Dragnet includes an incomplete list of parodies of the show.  It mentions "Chronocops" but neither of the spoofs by MAD!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: sheridan on 10 January, 2016, 03:11:47 pm
Intriguingly, the Wikipedia entry on Dragnet includes an incomplete list of parodies of the show.  It mentions "Chronocops" but neither of the spoofs by MAD!
I hope you added the references then!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 10 January, 2016, 06:46:26 pm
This reminds me of an audit
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 10 January, 2016, 10:54:39 pm
That reminds me Skullmo, about this tax return you've submitted...

(Also: why?)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: TordelBack on 10 January, 2016, 11:14:58 pm
This reminds me of an audit

Just the facts, ma'am.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 11 January, 2016, 09:49:53 am
Fantastic to see this last batch of posts; wonderful work there, Dash.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: pauljholden on 11 January, 2016, 10:30:52 am
By the way Mr Gibbons, "ingredients" has an "R" in it.


Dave Responds (via twitter):
Quote
Interesting. But tell Dash Decent that sign reads "Fresh Ingels" after the EC horror artist, not "Fresh ingredients"!

-pj
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: TordelBack on 11 January, 2016, 10:46:14 am
Fantastic!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 January, 2016, 10:56:58 am


How did I end up in a MAD comics/Chronocops/Dragnet/Dredd meta-narrative?

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 11 January, 2016, 12:24:33 pm
By the way Mr Gibbons, "ingredients" has an "R" in it.


Dave Responds (via twitter):
Quote
Interesting. But tell Dash Decent that sign reads "Fresh Ingels" after the EC horror artist, not "Fresh ingredients"!

-pj

I stand corrected, while bowing in awe and amazement that one of my heroes has commented on something I did (and better than last time, "How did you get into my house?" isn't really what you want to hear!)  Look on my works, ye mighty...!  Thanks PJ (another hero!)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 11 January, 2016, 12:27:46 pm

How did I end up in a MAD comics/Chronocops/Dragnet/Dredd meta-narrative?

Something to do with your choice of avatar, I believe.  There's an article about it here on the forum somewhere.

Now it's a recursive meta-narrative.

(Recursive does mean it keeps making people swear at me, right?)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 11 January, 2016, 12:29:00 pm
Point Dave G at page 3 of the thread and ask him about Charlie / Chris Foss's Gargantua while you're at it.

 ;)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 11 January, 2016, 01:03:19 pm
Quote
Interesting. But tell Dash Decent that sign reads "Fresh Ingels" after the EC horror artist, not "Fresh ingredients"!

Just as a final post script, Bill Schelly's recent (2015) biography of Harvey Kurtzman refers to Dave Gibbons three times* and Graham Ingels only twice.

That's not to downplay Ingels the artist (or Ingels the man) in any way, it's just the way Schelly tells the story.  But it is interesting following on from Dave's justification explanation.


* as Harvey award winner, as contributor to HK's "Strange Adventures" title, and as guest at a certain convention.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Bazooka Joe on 16 January, 2016, 06:01:26 pm
(http://i68.tinypic.com/2q9evic.jpg)

Crime Zone (1989)
Quote
Best described as Bonnie and Clyde in the future, this thriller pits two young outlaws against a post-apocalyptic city as they commit crimes all in action-packed, rebellious fashion

I know what I'm watching tonight
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 05 February, 2016, 06:55:54 pm
Microwave Mountain, Rogue Trooper prog 312, 1983...

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/Lobo_Baggins/MicrowaveMountain_zpsca1xova7.jpg) (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/Lobo_Baggins/media/MicrowaveMountain_zpsca1xova7.jpg.html)

Sea City 2000, Usborne Books 'Future Cities', 1979...

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/Lobo_Baggins/SeaCity2000_zpsktcuzu64.jpg) (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/Lobo_Baggins/media/SeaCity2000_zpsktcuzu64.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Skullmo on 05 February, 2016, 07:32:58 pm
HA!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 05 February, 2016, 10:23:57 pm
Someone's going on Santa's Norty list!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 06 February, 2016, 10:25:54 pm
Doctor Feeley-Good and his real-life visual inspiration, the 77-ton 'Beetle'; apparently the largest robot ever built!

(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/hires/108.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/Darkjimbo2/471e0471-acf0-4148-950f-d4e7d2295d9e_zpsmw2dxymp.jpg~original) (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/Darkjimbo2/media/471e0471-acf0-4148-950f-d4e7d2295d9e_zpsmw2dxymp.jpg.html)

http://tanks-a-lot.tumblr.com/post/125619903017/the-beetle-was-a-robot-designed-for-the-air
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 09 February, 2016, 09:32:03 am
Video game Galaga '88...

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/Lobo_Baggins/Galaga_zpshxon9h14.jpg) (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/Lobo_Baggins/media/Galaga_zpshxon9h14.jpg.html)

The Greater Spotter Thrill Sucker...

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/Lobo_Baggins/ThrillSucker_zpscnszuyy7.jpg) (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/Lobo_Baggins/media/ThrillSucker_zpscnszuyy7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 09 February, 2016, 09:41:34 am
Video game Galaga '88...

Interesting... The first appearance of Thrill Suckers was (I think) in 1980 though (Prog 180) so predates Galaga '88; does Galaga go back far enough for a 1980 swipe?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: credo on 09 February, 2016, 10:02:43 am
Doctor Feeley-Good and his real-life visual inspiration, the 77-ton 'Beetle'; apparently the largest robot ever built!

(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/hires/108.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/Darkjimbo2/471e0471-acf0-4148-950f-d4e7d2295d9e_zpsmw2dxymp.jpg~original) (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/Darkjimbo2/media/471e0471-acf0-4148-950f-d4e7d2295d9e_zpsmw2dxymp.jpg.html)

http://tanks-a-lot.tumblr.com/post/125619903017/the-beetle-was-a-robot-designed-for-the-air

There's a certain ironic joy in the idea of something as precise as a robot surgeon having the form of the 'heaviest robot ever'.

That Crime Zone film sounds like a fantastic plot for a Dredd story - have we ever had a Bonnie and Clyde type pairing? Always love me some Chopper-style futile-rail-against-the-system heroes.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: SuperSurfer on 19 February, 2016, 02:49:02 pm
Homage rather than swipe. Always loved this 2000AD advert that appeared in Star Lord in July 1978.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CblZ08fUYAAUE4F?format=pjpg&name=large)

Clearly Kevin O'Neill art. Based on this classic Pepsi advert https://youtu.be/jB8rnZ-0dKw (https://youtu.be/jB8rnZ-0dKw).

My older brother had a T-shirt at the time with the Pepsi advert text.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: credo on 20 February, 2016, 02:10:36 am
Homage rather than swipe. Always loved this 2000AD advert that appeared in Star Lord in July 1978.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CblZ08fUYAAUE4F?format=pjpg&name=large)

Clearly Kevin O'Neill art. Based on this classic Pepsi advert https://youtu.be/jB8rnZ-0dKw (https://youtu.be/jB8rnZ-0dKw).

My older brother had a T-shirt at the time with the Pepsi advert text.

A joy. Makes me think of mid-nineties Nirvana tees.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Spikes on 01 March, 2016, 06:06:14 pm
From the art of Brian Lewis FB page...   

(http://i.imgur.com/1B5zMZc.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ha23rtr.jpg?1)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 01 March, 2016, 08:53:46 pm
I find it interesting that two thirds of the current prog is the same lineup as Starlord in 1978!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Leigh S on 02 March, 2016, 05:25:36 pm
I find it interesting that two thirds of the current prog is the same lineup as Starlord in 1978!

BRING BACK MIND WARS!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: sheridan on 03 March, 2016, 07:49:38 am
I find it interesting that two thirds of the current prog is the same lineup as Starlord in 1978!
...and that three fifths is the same as 2000AD and Starlord immediately after the merger!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: johnnystress on 10 March, 2016, 04:19:18 pm
Just spotted this today. Gibson's cover predates The Rook by a few years.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a5/df/23/a5df2325c82ae961707d230acf50c1d8.png)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 10 March, 2016, 04:30:30 pm
Just spotted this today. Gibson's cover predates The Rook by a few years.

Yeah… I googled this after I saw you post this on FB — that issue of The Rook was published in 1981, and the cover depicts one of the stories inside, rather than being a generic painting that might have been painted years earlier and bought in from an agency.

(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb36/jimcampbell2000/The%20Rook%2008-23_zpsfw0eypzn.jpg)

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: johnnystress on 10 March, 2016, 04:32:01 pm
Damn. I went through the thread and saw it had already been mentioned.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: johnnystress on 10 March, 2016, 04:34:05 pm
Just spotted this today. Gibson's cover predates The Rook by a few years.

Yeah… I googled this after I saw you post this on FB — that issue of The Rook was published in 1981, and the cover depicts one of the stories inside, rather than being a generic painting that might have been painted years earlier and bought in from an agency.

(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb36/jimcampbell2000/The%20Rook%2008-23_zpsfw0eypzn.jpg)

cool!

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Albion on 20 December, 2016, 10:40:21 pm
Prog 1113. Slaine, The Swan Children. Art by Siku.
Is that Slaine's palace or Jabba the Hutt's?

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/albion79uk/249fd16a7458aee6370aa93af8ae1f79_zpsvl6e200x.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: sheridan on 21 December, 2016, 12:51:21 pm
Just spotted this today. Gibson's cover predates The Rook by a few years.

Yeah… I googled this after I saw you post this on FB — that issue of The Rook was published in 1981, and the cover depicts one of the stories inside, rather than being a generic painting that might have been painted years earlier and bought in from an agency.

(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb36/jimcampbell2000/The%20Rook%2008-23_zpsfw0eypzn.jpg)

Cheers

Jim


I'm wondering why the blokes are wearing coats while she's wandering around in her underwear...
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: james newell on 12 November, 2017, 12:35:44 pm
really like this topic so i will put my own Swipe\Homage, whatever to see if it can be rebooted back to life.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/7a50e11992ff2f01d4e8b8ab69fdc1d3/tumblr_ouy4wa79Ya1uobbgmo1_1280.jpg)

by james after

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rSKBz-6BpMA/UcYLjRuiC5I/AAAAAAAAICw/9b9PcoNIVJI/s1600/flesh3.jpg)

Ramon Sola


Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Albion on 13 November, 2017, 07:57:12 am
Published in the same year as the Terra-Meks story in Ro-Busters.
Cover by Angus McKie

(http://i66.tinypic.com/sfz51w.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Andy_Lee on 13 November, 2017, 08:10:52 am
Published in the same year as the Terra-Meks story in Ro-Busters.
Cover by Angus McKie

Didn't Angus share a studio with Dave Gibbons? Might be a bit of Ro-Busters in there as well.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: ming on 13 November, 2017, 08:24:41 am
Published in the same year as the Terra-Meks story in Ro-Busters.
Cover by Angus McKie

Already spotted - see Page 11 of this thread. The original link to the image from Omni #1 is dead though so if someone wants to look into that...  :)

Thinking about that picture, I'm not sure which came first. Was it swiped or the swiper?

Any takers?

Is the artist for that painting Angus McKie?
I had thought it had been used in one of the TTA books, but on digging the books out, its not the same, but does share some similarities. (The TTA book is from '79, btw.)


(http://i.imgur.com/HB3gNEI.jpg)

TTA was famous for using images that had been around for a good few years previous, so unless it was commissioned directly for use in that issue of Omni, its kinda hard to date - well, without an artists name, etc..
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 13 November, 2017, 09:51:02 am
My kids have this drawing book:

(https://i.imgur.com/Zf0DQKX.jpg)


It's not all original work.  You can see where it gets some of its inspiration from.

(https://i.imgur.com/o7zrJvj.jpg)


I was amazed to see this "Space Robot"!

(https://i.imgur.com/6SuyXlY.jpg)


Having seen Mr H in the book, it was then pretty obvious what inspired "Space Warrior".  Just look at that helmet for a start!

(https://i.imgur.com/tpAM79c.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: sheridan on 28 January, 2018, 02:22:29 pm
Not a swipe, more a homage.  The cover to Leviathan is obviously inspired by the poster for the SS Normandie (has this appeared in the preceding 23 pages of this thread?)
Xerox: 50 posters that rocked the world (https://www.xerox.co.uk/en-gb/digital-printing/insights/custom-poster-prints)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: james newell on 31 January, 2018, 10:19:24 pm
you mean this:

(https://www.xerox.com/sites/default/files/50-posters-16.jpg)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: james newell on 31 January, 2018, 10:29:53 pm
 Dont know if this was just an Irish think, but I do remember this Chrisp packet knocking around in the 80's:

Captain Chrisp

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/6d/84/51/6d8451914e988bf879dac40a4873be34.jpg)

(http://img2.thejournal.ie/inline/3359962/original/?width=594&version=3359962)

maybe David for http://hiberniabook.blogspot.ie/ (http://hiberniabook.blogspot.ie/) might have some insight?

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 January, 2018, 11:59:07 pm


It was just an Irish thing.

http://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=29533.msg879899#msg879899
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: james newell on 01 February, 2018, 11:03:57 pm
Class!, thanks Joe, for the insight.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 04 February, 2018, 12:20:19 pm
Feck! My brother and I used to have a Captain Crisps poster on our bedroom wall.  His arch enemies were Hyprum and Krispos, if I remember rightly.

Also, you've just reminded me of how he used to tote packets of Captain Crisps crisps on his belt, presumably showing a picture of himself toting packets of Captain Crisps crisps on his belt, continuing into infinity.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Dash Decent on 08 February, 2018, 06:27:56 am
That's called the Droste Effect, I think - after the nurse/nun on the Droste cocoa powder.
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: sheridan on 09 February, 2018, 09:39:11 pm
Feck! My brother and I used to have a Captain Crisps poster on our bedroom wall.  His arch enemies were Hyprum and Krispos, if I remember rightly.

Which one of those is the Judge Death analogue?
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 February, 2018, 10:19:59 pm
Which one of those is the Judge Death analogue?

More like The Starborn Thing/General Blood 'n' Nuts


http://ifiplayer.ie/captain-crisps/
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 April, 2018, 09:19:28 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DO8bmkuXkAAEH4s.jpg)


(https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/859429.jpg)

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: Tjm86 on 02 April, 2018, 09:25:10 pm
Reckon you'd be hard pressed to convince anyone that Look and Learn swiped that cover there Joe.   ::)
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 April, 2018, 09:31:35 pm
Never heard of the thousand-year-stare?

Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: maryanddavid on 03 April, 2018, 12:38:58 am
That's a great spot!
Title: Re: 2000AD Sci-Fi Swipe File
Post by: O Lucky Stevie! on 07 June, 2018, 01:21:30 pm
...& suddenly Stevie is no longer  wracked by guilt re: his retelling of that particular Suoercover Saga in his Grade 5 Composition book.

Cheers Joe!