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: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: COMMANDO FORCES 28 May, 2014, 04:47:45 AM
It seems that Marvel are really going to push their characters on Netflix, starting with Daredevil

Led by a series focused on “Daredevil,” followed by “Jessica Jones,” “Iron Fist” and “Luke Cage,” the epic will unfold over multiple years of original programming, taking Netflix members deep into the gritty world of heroes and villains of Hell’s Kitchen, New York. Netflix has committed to a minimum of four, thirteen episodes series and a culminating Marvel’s “The Defenders” mini-series event that reimagines a dream team of self-sacrificing, heroic characters.

The biggest, most recognizable series is “Daredevil,” which previously was made into a much-maligned movie starring Ben Affleck. After the rights to the property lapsed at FOX, and returned to Marvel Studios, fans have been wondering where the blind lawyer by day, New York vigilante by night would show up next. And now they know the answer.

The other series are probably less well known, at least to fans outside the comic-book arena:

‘Jessica Jones’ This was previously announced in development by Marvel TV as “AKA Jessica Jones,” based on the comic book by Brian Michael Bendis and Michael Gaydos. The comic series was named “Alias,” which was also the name of a TV show starring Jennifer Garner (interestingly, also a star of the “Daredevil” movie), hence the name change to “AKA Jessica Jones.” Now it’s just simply the character’s name. Jones is a former superhero and member of the Avengers who hit on hard times and now works as a detective in New York.

‘Luke Cage’ One of the most eagerly requested Marvel properties by fans, Luke Cage is a street-smart hero with unbreakable skin. He tied in heavily in the “Alias” comic-book series, later marrying and having a child with Jessica Jones. He also frequently partnered with...

‘Iron Fist’ A mystically powered Kung Fu expert and playboy billionaire named Danny Rand, Iron Fist has had a number of iterations through the years — though his most popular was working with Luke Cage as “Heroes for Hire,” a team that sold their heroic expertise for money.

‘The Defenders’ This is the street equivalent of “The Avengers.” Traditionally in the comics, The Defenders have been called the “non-team,” with their membership ranging from Ghost Rider, Hulk, and Dr. Strange.

Looks quite interesting and yet again a Brit takes a lead role as an American Superhero, as Daredevil will be played by Charlie Cox.
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: Charlie boy 28 May, 2014, 08:35:20 AM
I have largely ignored Agents of Shield but Daredevil would be one I'd watch but I'm guessing I'd have to wait for it to be released on DVD with it being on Netflix. Is Charlie Fox the lead from TV's Dexter ? I only ask because I read he was the most likely candidate for the role but I can't remember his name this early in the morning.
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: Theblazeuk 28 May, 2014, 10:52:07 AM
Better be darker than Agents of Shield with that line-up.

Defenders as a street team is a bit misleading though, the line-up is the Hulk, Ghost Rider, Dr Strange and Namor (and the Silver Surfer among many others) - more like Cosmic power team of loners. I wish they'd just go with Heroes for Hire.

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: Batman's Superior Cousin 28 May, 2014, 04:03:18 PM
I have largely ignored Agents of Shield but Daredevil would be one I'd watch but I'm guessing I'd have to wait for it to be released on DVD with it being on Netflix. Is Charlie Fox the lead from TV's Dexter ? I only ask because I read he was the most likely candidate for the role but I can't remember his name this early in the morning.

No, Charlie Cox is from Stardust (Tristan Thorn) & Boardwalk Empire (Owen Slater).
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: Professor Bear 28 May, 2014, 05:34:03 PM
Daredevil and Iron Fist might be good because they've got great high concepts to wrap the show around, but Jessica Jones has already done the rounds with numerous networks and they all said "no" without seeing a single frame of the pilot, and considering the sheer amount of tv shows about "a strong single woman in a man's occupation doin it for herself etc" on tv in the last few years, few of which have been any good, the show pitched must have either been some other kind of awful, or network types thought the character to be bland/generic - and fair enough, she has actually been done several times over the years on tv to underwhelming success on shows such as Birds of Prey, Smallville (several times, often in the space of the same season), Dark Angel, etc, and those are just the genre shows (if we're including non-genre stuff like Covert Affairs, Against The Wall, State Of Affairs, Undercovers, Protector, Profiler, and so on, we'll be here all day.
Luke Cage I don't see faring much better, as nowadays the character is divested from the whole "Power Man" thing seeing as that's a separate character being pushed in Disney's animated superhero line, so the character would be a strong black man with a bald head and a goatee and a criminal past he's put behind him - not exactly exciting stuff.  Still, Daredevil and Iron Fist might be interesting.  It's just a shame that they have to be sold as a package deal with characters that Marvel couldn't shift on their own merits.  Fifty percent of this at least looks like it might be good.
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: Goaty 12 October, 2014, 03:20:58 PM
Here first images of new Daredevil! It was debut at NYCC.

Marvel used a panel at the New York Comic Con this weekend for the launch of its Netflix TV series "Daredevil". Two official photos and some concept art by Joe Quesada have been revealed, including a glimpse of star Charlie Cox in an early incarnation of the "Daredevil" outfit which his character will sport before he slips on the more developed and familiar main suit.

Several clips from the series were screened, one which sees Matt Murdoch (Charlie Cox) in the early version of the suit engaging in a fight with two men trying to get into the apartment of Karen Page (Deborah Ann Woll). All the cast were on hand to discuss their roles and the tone of the show.

The biggest reveal is that of Rosario Dawson's character. Dawson's casting is old news, but her role was unknown until today - that role being Claire Temple who, in the comics, was romantically involved with Luke Cage. Dawson's character is a nurse who, in a clip shown, has her tending to an injured Matt Murdock and accepting of the fact he doesn't want to take his mask off. During the scene she also mentions an ex-boyfriend with secrets.

Also onboard in previously unannounced roles are Ayelet Zurer as Vanessa Marianna, Bob Gunton as Leland 'The Owl' Owlsley, Vondie Curtis-Hall as Ben Urich, and Toby Leonard Moore as Wesley. Producer Jeph Loeb also says that Marvel has yet to cast the titles roles in either of their proposed "Jessica Jones" and "Luke Cage" Netflix series, and everything heard so far about them are just rumors.

Cox says that due to the nature of the series being made for streaming service Netflix and with an audience of binge watchers in mind, the project is being shaped as one big story: "One thing I noticed when reading the script is that because there's not a week in between, because you don't have to remind people what happened and there isn't the need for a cliffhangers, you can tell real stories. Like nothing else, it's going to feel like a thirteen-hour movie." 


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: JOE SOAP 07 January, 2015, 07:58:38 PM


All 13 Daredevil episodes will drop at once on Netflix in April (http://marvel.com/news/tv/23903/marvel_netflix_announce_release_date_for_marvels_daredevil).


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: Goaty 03 February, 2015, 09:10:23 PM
15 secs trailer teaser to full trailer out tomorrow!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ3yXDFvybA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ3yXDFvybA)
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: Goaty 04 February, 2015, 02:24:51 PM
New trailer, that looks good.

http://uk.ign.com/videos/2015/02/04/marvels-daredevil-teaser-trailer (http://uk.ign.com/videos/2015/02/04/marvels-daredevil-teaser-trailer)
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: Professor Bear 04 February, 2015, 02:31:22 PM
So the first one was just the teaser for the teaser?
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: COMMANDO FORCES 04 February, 2015, 03:44:04 PM
I think I'll give that a go, the more grit the better for me :D
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: wedgeski 04 February, 2015, 04:38:32 PM
Looking forward to eating this up.
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: Colin YNWA 04 February, 2015, 04:52:17 PM
So the first one was just the teaser for the teaser?

Which of course is a teaser of the proper trailer... which of course is a teaser of the show (or movie) itself.

I'd say things have gone just about as far as they can... right?
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: Charlie boy 04 February, 2015, 05:23:10 PM
Sad to find myself disappointed. Seeing the suit in stills had me thinking the first series would be inspired by the Miller/Romita Jr Man Without Fear run (but then again it reminded a mate of Trial of the Incredible Hulk). That trailer just brought the 2004 film to mind a fair bit.
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: Professor Bear 04 February, 2015, 05:57:21 PM
The 2004 movie was alright.  I thought it was at least as good as the first Spidey flick, and it certainly made some coin or they wouldn't have made that dreadful spin-off.
I also thought of the Hulk tv movies when I saw the costume, but self-awareness is dead in modern media.  Best just crack on and see how it goes.
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: Colin YNWA 04 February, 2015, 08:13:54 PM
Sad to find myself disappointed. Seeing the suit in stills had me thinking the first series would be inspired by the Miller/Romita Jr Man Without Fear run (but then again it reminded a mate of Trial of the Incredible Hulk). That trailer just brought the 2004 film to mind a fair bit.

I still think it might be just that. It has the air of an origin of sorts. Hope they are patient, let it be good, let it build and then maybe do 'Born Again' in a triumphant 4th season...

...mind or I could just not worry about it and read the comics again...
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: Goaty 04 February, 2015, 08:18:39 PM
But what exciting is Vincent D'Onofrio as Kingpin! Great actor!

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: JOE SOAP 04 February, 2015, 09:08:34 PM
That trailer just brought the 2004 film to mind a fair bit.


Apart from the playground dance-off and ropey nu-metal Daredevil - director's cut - is perfectly fine and faithful. It offers more than Man of Steel ever could.



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: Tiplodocus 05 February, 2015, 12:28:38 PM
For some reason, I had it in my head that Vincent D'Onforio had died.  But a quick google reminds me that Private Pyle was also in Men In Black.
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: Batman's Superior Cousin 05 February, 2015, 01:50:32 PM
For some reason, I had it in my head that Vincent D'Onforio had died.  But a quick google reminds me that Private Pyle was also in Men In Black.

Watching Full Metal Jacket, as I'm reading that comment!!!
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: Goaty 10 March, 2015, 03:02:28 PM
Holy smoke, that does looks good! They did good casting so far.

Full Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGTs8nQuR9M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGTs8nQuR9M)
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: wedgeski 10 March, 2015, 03:29:44 PM
That looks splendid. Sounds exactly like Ben Affleck in the opening VO!
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: TordelBack 10 March, 2015, 04:16:27 PM
Normally I whinge about these types of things being too grim'n'gritty, but this looks perfect.
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: Greg M. 10 March, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
I am not convinced by Foggy's hair, but it's cool to see Stick.
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: Mardroid 11 March, 2015, 03:51:43 AM
Costume aside, i like that. Most elements seem to be present.

Shame the suit isn't one of them, although he might change it later, I guess.

The basic 'rag around the head' look is suitably creepy but it's just not Daredevil.
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: radiator 11 March, 2015, 04:01:11 AM
I'd bet money that he'll get the proper costume later on, perhaps even in a later season.

Looks really good, though. I'll definitely be watching.
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: Colin YNWA 11 March, 2015, 06:45:04 AM
This has probably come five years too late for me. I was so excited when the Johnson movie was annouced. Possibly my favourite character (then) big movie colour me chuffed. It was pretty poor and possibly the start (the very start) of me realising that there's little point getting excited about adaptions of comics as I have the comics and they will always be better as they won't involve compromise and live action doesn't by default make a story more valid. I'm more than happy to stick (no pun intended) to the comic stories as they were intended...

... all that said I've watched this with a quiet mild interest and unlike The Flash (who overtook DD as my favourite character in the intervening years) which for some reason hasn't caught my imagination.

The trouble DD tends to be earnst and grim and push that too far and it just seems a bit silly on telly. Works a treat in comics, but telly it will look like its trying too hard. Some of the dialogue there kinda confirmed that...

...I'm not a big fan of Man without Fear which the early costume (I agree this will surely change by series end?) seems to suggets this draws off...

... yet, yet... I can't help but be intrigued.

I wish it well but I'm going to re-read my Nocenti comics and try not to get distracted...

...maybe...
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: Goaty 19 March, 2015, 07:38:51 PM
Daredevil's motion poster. there lots of Easter Eggs in it, even Stark Tower!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltzGfeqWp_M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltzGfeqWp_M)

But check out Murdock's puddle reflection...  ;)
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: radiator 02 April, 2015, 04:30:58 PM
Early reviews starting to appear for the first few episodes of Daredevil.

Apparently it's ace.
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: Charlie boy 06 April, 2015, 03:52:56 PM
I do have a little more hope following the extended trailer for DD. I like how the dialogue taking place between him and Fisk seems to be taking place without them being near one another. With luck (as far as I'm concerned) Daredevil won't be aware of Fisk's involvement in crime until the last scene in series one or something. I'd like them to build up to the whole reveal and then build up to actual confrontations between the two instead of rushing in for Daredevil finds out who he is and goes beats him up right away.
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: Goaty 10 April, 2015, 09:37:48 AM
Daredevil just on Netflix now, been watch opening scene, on my coffee break, so good so far.

So this Daredevil's actions on his hearing, than sonar in the film.
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: Buttonman 10 April, 2015, 02:11:41 PM
3 episodes in and I'm enjoying it.

Familiar faces like Foggy, Karen, Ben Urich and Turk all have appeared although the Kingpin and the red suit are, so, far under wraps. All the action has been well choreographed fights but it zips along and acting and script are crisp.

Will be in for the duration!
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: Buttonman 10 April, 2015, 03:43:27 PM
Kingpin in at the end of episode 3 and dominates episode 4. Nice to see some other characters from the Miller era either named or in person - Wesley, Vanessa and 'Mr Potter' - the Gladiator turned tailor.
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: Colin YNWA 10 April, 2015, 05:07:13 PM
How quickly is this being released on Netflix? The first episode only seemed to be a wee bit ago, is it a new episode every week?
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: Goaty 10 April, 2015, 05:10:41 PM
All 12 episodes out now
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: DaveGYNWA 10 April, 2015, 05:11:11 PM
How quickly is this being released on Netflix?

The entire series (13 episodes) available straight away.
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: Colin YNWA 10 April, 2015, 05:12:00 PM
Oh right so they drop the lot in one go! Didn't release that. So full costume pictures must be out there... to the internet...
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: Goaty 12 April, 2015, 02:44:46 PM
Busy weekend with missus, just finally watch 1st episode, that was good!
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: Mardroid 12 April, 2015, 06:15:55 PM
I started watching the first episode. Had to pull the curtains so I can see the picture properly due to sunlight reflection on dark visuals.

Then the missus of my household (in this case not MY missus. Thank goodness,) popped her head in the room and exclaimed "Oh god!" Translation: she wants the living room but seeing the room is dark, and I'm watching something she thinks I've settled in and her plans have scuppered.

I could have just stayed there but so as to not foster bad feeling in the household I switched it all off, opened the curtains again and went upstairs to do something else I'd planned for a while*.

Not a big deal but I'm thinking of getting a TV for my room or I could move the one in the living room (which belongs to me) up there but again with the bad feeling. I could watch it on my tablet but it tends to be a bit fuzzy, (although it does improve) but we'll see.

Oh, on Netflix, there's a picture of Daredevil in what appears to be the full red costume. At least it's a dark reddish colour and sports horns which he doesn't appear to be wearing in the first costumed scene of the first episode, so it looks like you guys are right - he will upgrade later.

It's a dark red, but if we're going the realism route, that makes sense for stealth purposes. The bright yellow or red of the comics never quite made sense for someone who relies on surprise and ambush, although it does make a statement. Much like Batman's bright yellow utility belt on an otherwise grey/black costume... altough it does look cool.


*Namely ripping a bunch of CDs so I can listen to them on my phone and MP3 player alarm clock.
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: Mister Pops 12 April, 2015, 06:21:58 PM
I've only watched the first two episodes of Daredevil, but I think it might be my favourite Marvel live action thing by quite a margin. Even better than Roger Corman's Fantastic Four.
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: Buttonman 12 April, 2015, 08:44:42 PM
All done! Thought that was excellent and it's a shame I've binged as it will be at least a year before any more.

Couple of surprises and not necessarily good ones.

Foggy knowing Matt's secret identity saves them having a lot of scenes where he's making excuses to run out for emergencies, but it certainly changes the dynamic.

Also seemed a waste to kill off Ben Urich who must have had plenty of mileage as the go to journalist. I was also sad to see Wesley die - he was only a minor character in 'Born Again' but he was good in this as the weasely fixer.

Also strange the costume only appeared with 10 minutes to go in the last episode. Quite a departure from the comics but the black elements certainty seem more practical in the 'real' world.
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: Theblazeuk 13 April, 2015, 10:16:52 AM
I've only watched the first two episodes of Daredevil, but I think it might be my favourite Marvel live action thing by quite a margin.

Agreed! Though Blade nudges it out.

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: Goaty 13 April, 2015, 03:46:11 PM
Episode 2 was excellent, and that scene so simple to Oldboy's famous hammer fight scene.
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: Goaty 22 April, 2015, 09:33:03 AM
Well some non-surprise news, Daredevil been renewed for Season 2.
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: Mardroid 22 April, 2015, 11:21:22 AM
Well some non-surprise news, Daredevil been renewed for Season 2.

A nice surprise for me at least.

There have been many series I've liked that went the way of the dodo.

(I have a silly image now of a superhero in a fat bird costume. What a rubbish superhero that would be...)
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: COMMANDO FORCES 23 April, 2015, 03:31:57 PM
A bit of info from the Starburst email...

If you’ve seen Marvel’s Netflix-exclusive DAREDEVIL, chances are you’ll have absolutely adored it. The wonder of the 13-episode series is that it received massive praise from long-standing fans of the Guardian Devil, from casual comic book fans, and from those who previously had no idea who Matt Murdock was and presumed the show would be about Evil Knievel.

So in some welcome news, it’s been confirmed that the show will be getting a second season. Not only that, Season 2 will debut in 2016. Doug Petrie and Marco Ramirez will act as showrunners on the new season, with the two also serving as executive producers along with Drew Goddard and Jeph Loeb.

Steven S. DeKnight, showrunner for the first season, will not be returning, although said, “While previous commitments unfortunately prevent me from continuing on with DAREDEVIL into its second season, I could not be happier that Doug Petrie and Marco Ramirez are carrying the torch. They were invaluable collaborators during our first season, and I for once can’t wait to see what they do with the show moving forward.”

What is of interest is just when this second season will debut. At present, the shared universe A.K.A. JESSICA JONES is to premiere towards the end of this year, and then it was believed that LUKE CAGE would arrive in the first half of 2016, followed by IRON FIST in late 2016, with the foursome (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and Iron First) then coming together for the 8-part THE DEFENDERS mini-series. Now that Season 2 of DAREDEVIL will supposedly arrive in 2016, it’ll be interesting to see if any of these other shows are brought forward or if DD will simply have a second season whilst the other characters are still in their debut run.

In terms of casting for A.K.A. JESSICA JONES, Krysten Ritter is Jessica Jones, David Tennant is Kilgrave aka Purple Man, Rachael Taylor as Patsy Walker, Carrie-Anne Moss as Harper, and will also introduce Mike Colter as Luke Cage before he then goes off to his own series next year.

As for DAREDEVIL, the first season dropped a plethora of Easter eggs that could be developed in future seasons, and there were plenty of nods and teases of other Marvel heroes and villains
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: CrazyFoxMachine 23 April, 2015, 09:44:31 PM
then coming together for the 8-part THE DEFENDERS mini-series.

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: Goaty 09 June, 2015, 10:15:52 PM
Ooh good casting;

Jon Bernthal is The Punisher in DareDevil Season 2!

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: Theblazeuk 09 June, 2015, 10:24:08 PM
Promising! Hope Punisher gets its own spin-off...
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: DaveGYNWA 10 June, 2015, 12:04:47 AM
Hell fucking yeah!
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: amines2058 10 June, 2015, 07:07:39 AM
That is great casting I think. I could have sworn that I read over the weekend that Jason Statham had also been cast as Bullseye for series 2?
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: DaveGYNWA 10 June, 2015, 09:37:46 AM
That is great casting I think. I could have sworn that I read over the weekend that Jason Statham had also been cast as Bullseye for series 2?

Just rumours, but it would be good casting too. Elektra is another that is seemingly being lined up to appear in the second series too.

In other news - 'AKA Jessica Jones' is now just 'Jessica Jones'
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: JamesC 10 June, 2015, 12:39:09 PM
Ooh good casting;

Jon Bernthal is The Punisher in DareDevil Season 2!

(http://images.amcnetworks.com/blogs.amctv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/InsideTWD_S1_Character_ShaneWalsh_325.jpg)

I'm not familiar with this actor but I'm very pleased to hear that Frank is making an appearance. 
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: Link Prime 10 June, 2015, 01:18:40 PM
Ooh good casting;

Jon Bernthal is The Punisher in DareDevil Season 2!

(http://images.amcnetworks.com/blogs.amctv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/InsideTWD_S1_Character_ShaneWalsh_325.jpg)

I'm not familiar with this actor but I'm very pleased to hear that Frank is making an appearance.

He has the prerequisite 'air of sweaty menace'.
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: Goaty 08 July, 2015, 08:43:19 AM
Elodie Yung has been cast as Elektra in Daredevil Season 2

(http://i.imgur.com/Scs4hOj.jpg)
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: Tiplodocus 08 July, 2015, 08:57:08 AM
I don't like the new costume.
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: I, Cosh 08 July, 2015, 08:58:27 AM
I don't like the new costume.
She's not even Greek!
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: Jim_Campbell 08 July, 2015, 08:59:16 AM
Ten out of ten to Goaty for finding a picture of the actress in her undies, less so for finding one where she looks the part.

(http://images.desimartini.com/media/uploads/elodie_yung_pics.jpg)

FWIW, Bill Sienkiewicz has tweeted his approval…!

Cheers

Jim
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: Dark Jimbo 08 July, 2015, 02:29:14 PM
Ten out of ten to Goaty for finding a picture of the actress in her undies, less so for finding one where she looks the part.

The man knows his audience!
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: Goaty 07 October, 2015, 08:18:13 PM
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: Neo Yahtzee 08 October, 2015, 11:53:17 AM
Couldn't be looking forward to season 2 of Daredevil more. I'd go as far to say that it's the best onscreen Marvel property to date.
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: Satanist 08 October, 2015, 11:56:11 AM
I'm still hopeful of seeing a good version of Punisher so please, please don't fuck this up.
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: COMMANDO FORCES 09 October, 2015, 03:44:44 PM
Here's the teaser trailer for....

JESSICA JONES (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=48&v=Wi2hbejO75s)
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: COMMANDO FORCES 12 October, 2015, 04:28:30 PM
The trailer for Season 2 of Daredevil is online and it's a visual re-cap for most of it but they do show new stuff at the end, including a certain vigilante who doesn't mind killing people!

DAREDEVIL SEASON 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2&v=UmmFjIC1TAE)
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: DaveGYNWA 23 October, 2015, 02:50:13 PM
Jessica Jones full trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7NMA6lC-Ag
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: I, Cosh 24 November, 2015, 04:18:23 AM
Jessica Jones full trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7NMA6lC-Ag
Watched the first episode of this and, well, it's a bit shit really. Irritating voiceover, cutesy cinematic alcohol abuse and annoying, squelchy "is it real" flashback effects.

Don't know anything about the comics other than it turned out not to be the Jennifer Garner tie in I always assumed when I saw it in FP.
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: JOE SOAP 24 November, 2015, 05:58:59 AM
Watched the first episode of this and, well, it's a bit shit really. Irritating voiceover, cutesy cinematic alcohol abuse and annoying, squelchy "is it real" flashback effects.

I thought the same after the first episode or two and I started to think they really dropped the ball. I don't know why they bothered with the v.o. as they drop it soon enough, never to come back.

Then it surprised me - the series got better after the second episode, a lot better, to the point where the show ends up being far superior to Daredevil. It never forgets its themes and manages to play with and invert them continually thoughout the run; and all the characters, even the secondary players, have decent storylines that all pay-off. As with Daredevil, Jessica Jones can also boast having the most interesting and compelling villain to come out of any Marvel/DC comic adaptation. They manage to make his seemingly all too powerful superpower work by limiting it through his stunted personality - it only fumbles a bit when they try to give some 'science' as to how his power of persuasion works.



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: amines2058 24 November, 2015, 06:51:51 AM

I thought the same after the first episode or two and I started to think they really dropped the ball. I don't know why they bothered with the v.o. as they drop it soon enough, never to come back.

Then it surprised me - the series got better after the second episode, a lot better, to the point where the show ends up being far superior to Daredevil. It never forgets its themes and manages to play with and invert them continually thoughout the run; and all the characters, even the secondary players, have decent storylines that all pay-off. As with Daredevil, Jessica Jones can also boast having the most interesting and compelling villain to come out of any Marvel/DC comic adaptation. They manage to make his seemingly all too powerful superpower work by limiting it through his stunted personality - it only fumbles a bit when they try to give some 'science' as to how his power of persuasion works.

Hmm I may need to stick with it then as I watched the 1st two episodes over the weekend, and was slightly underwhelmed, and not bothered watching any more yet.
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: Professor Bear 24 November, 2015, 12:01:23 PM
For the most part it just seems to be a lot of leftovers from dusty old teen show Veronica Mars, right down to the "she was raped so she's tough now" origin - the comics didn't go this route, but the tv version seems to rub it in from around the eighth episode or so.
The voice-over comes and goes throughout the series, sometimes absent for episodes at a time, a pretty inconsistent device that seems to be used to fill stretches of an episode that would otherwise be wordless, or to reiterate plot details from previous episodes that will shortly come up again, but it pretty much never relates to the themes of the episode, making me think the VO is a post-production addition.  I hate the cheap-sounding soundtrack - I know they're going for a noir detective vibe but sometimes the background music reaches Dr Who-levels of intrusive.
The pacing is good, though, as it gets where it's going a lot quicker than you might expect, and there's at least a passing commitment to the MCU setting.  Ritter doesn't display a lot of range, there not being a great deal of difference between Before and After Jessica Jones, but she's at least consistent, while the guy who plays Luke Cage is more of a presence than he is a personality.  Some board members may also enjoy the sight of a noble junkie being saved from an evil cyclist - no, really.

Overall, pretty patchy, but likely there's more good than bad.
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: Mardroid 24 November, 2015, 12:14:28 PM
I watched a few episodes Sunday and on my day off yesterday.

I'm largely enjoying it. Ridiculously raunchy at times (comics have grown up! Let's show some explicit rumpy pumpy. Saucepot  in cow girl mode just broke bed with her super-strength Humpty tumpy. Wahaaay! Etc.) but the characters and story are pretty good.

I wasn't too sure of that Cops acting.

I saw some criticism concerning Tenant's portrayal of Kilgrave as being 'over the top' (not on this forum, to be fair) but I think he makes a terrific villain.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Theblazeuk 24 November, 2015, 11:04:45 PM
I am in the 2-episode party at the mo. I think it's a bit weak so far but I'm confident Killgrave will make a good villain once it kicks in. Jessica's personal life and her building are a bit terrible and the acting is a bit ropey. Again though, Tennant does what he does pretty well. I'm looking forward to a bit of villainous over-the-top.

Playing the what-if game, I think Killgrave and the backstory would have been better brought in later rather than sooner. A couple of unrelated (or ultimately related) cases that took up an episode or two could have let us know Jessica so we cared about the mysterious flashes and so on. As it was it was a bit strained.
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: Tiplodocus 24 November, 2015, 11:30:28 PM
I know nothing about JJ at all (though she was in a Mighty Avengers I read recently) so have nothing to compare this to.

Only seen first episode. Enjoyable enough so far. Bit slow. Didn't like voice over. Not sure I've found anyone to empathise with yet.
Will watch a bit more

D'Onforio was cool as Kingpin but as someone, possibly Cosh, pointed out, it was hard to figure out if he loved or hated the city and whether he wanted to save it or destroy it.
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: I, Cosh 26 November, 2015, 11:30:38 PM
Watched the first episode of this and, well, it's a bit shit really. Irritating voiceover, cutesy cinematic alcohol abuse and annoying, squelchy "is it real" flashback effects.
I thought the same after the first episode or two and I started to think they really dropped the ball. I don't know why they bothered with the v.o. as they drop it soon enough, never to come back.

Then it surprised me - the series got better after the second episode, a lot better, to the point where the show ends up being far superior to Daredevil.
Well, I stuck it out to the third episode but I thought that was abysmal. It's a bold choice to have such a completely unlikable protagonist but it needs a much better actor to carry it off. Ah'm oot.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Theblazeuk 06 December, 2015, 07:48:52 PM
After sticking JJ through, I'm glad I did. David Tennant was great.

Jessica Jones herself never really became likable and her choices... well. The writing on this show is ridiculously bad at points, contrasting starkly with almost every scene Killgrave is actually in.

If you gave us a reason to care about Jessica before dropping the plot, if you removed the cutesy cinematic alcohol abuse (good turn of phrase) and kept the flashbacks out until the plot reared it's head - then it would probably have been pretty damn good. The voiceover could have gone completely or at least learned how to do it better. I swear Daredevil has a voiceover at points but never makes you think "Oh god that voiceover again how long since they remembered that".
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: CrazyFoxMachine 07 December, 2015, 07:44:32 PM
Well, I stuck it out to the third episode but I thought that was abysmal. It's a bold choice to have such a completely unlikable protagonist but it needs a much better actor to carry it off. Ah'm oot.

Same here, hated the first episode. Halfway through the second we just thought "why are we wasting our time on this". It's a grey flat hateful world and if you compare it Daredevil which was almost instantly likeable JJ is basically early 00s cheesy sass mixed with ooh-isn't-this-dark cobblers. Didn't care about anyone in it. Didn't want to watch any more of it.

I think it represents a bit of a problem with the miniseries format as a whole actually - it's obvious from the other comments that it's obviously setting itself up for a big pay off. But this is like... what 12 hours of episodic television. If it doesn't grab me in the first few parts why the balls would I watch the whole thing through to that 'well-set-up' finale?

Nonsense.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: JOE SOAP 07 December, 2015, 08:52:52 PM
I think it represents a bit of a problem with the miniseries format as a whole actually - it's obvious from the other comments that it's obviously setting itself up for a big pay off. But this is like... what 12 hours of episodic television. If it doesn't grab me in the first few parts why the balls would I watch the whole thing through to that 'well-set-up' finale?


Both Jessica Jones and Daredevil are about 4 hours too long. Rather than the weak start of Jessica Jones, Daredevil felt too episodic and fell flat beyond the midway point. After introducing good characters like Murdock, Claire Temple, Stick, Madam Gao and Fisk, it plotlessly muddled around with far less interesting touchy-feely characters being sad and investigating things we all ready know before picking up at the end.

I don't think the mini-series format is the problem but maybe their scheduling is: they began filming Jessica Jones in February and released it in November. The demand for all 13 episodes to drop at once must be punishing.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Goaty 07 January, 2016, 01:05:11 PM
Teaser for Daredevil Season 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXyW4Cuwphg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXyW4Cuwphg)
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Goaty 07 January, 2016, 01:51:38 PM
new poster

(http://i.imgur.com/jQbJ30z.jpg)
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Dandontdare 21 January, 2016, 01:12:14 PM
Just watched the full run of Jessica Jones over a couple of weeks and I bloody loved it.

Personally, I like my PIs to be drunk, hard-boiled and abrasive, I thought she was a wonderful character. I don't think we'd be having a conversation about the "likeability" of the protagonist if it was a man - we don't usually worry that Sherlock Holmes or Philip Marlowe are 'unlikeable'.

I thought the theme  music was fantastic - not usually something I notice , but I really did love this one (last time i was so taken with a theme was Firefky)

Tennant was great as The Purple Man, Luke Cage was fine but a but bland. The lawyer was more evil than the villain, a great character; and the best-pal was okay too. I assume the nurse was from Daredevil, which I haven't watched yet? the only character that I wanted rid of was the junkie-neighbour.

The super-shenanigans were used sparingly but very well. ("Laser eyes" lol)

Anyone else notice the plethora of EXIT signs in every shot? usually red and white in the same typeface as the Netflix logo and sharing similar letters, so I'm guessing it some kind of subliminal advertising. I spotted one or two in Agents of Shield and I'll be keeping my eyes out for them in Daredevil.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Mardroid 21 January, 2016, 02:25:58 PM
Personally, I like my PIs to be drunk, hard-boiled and abrasive, I thought she was a wonderful character. I don't think we'd be having a conversation about the "likeability" of the protagonist if it was a man - we don't usually worry that Sherlock Holmes or Philip Marlowe are 'unlikeable'.

You might have a point there.

I enjoyed it, and I largely liked the characters. As for the junkie, I found him very endearing later on in the show. The female (uh-oh! ;-) ) neighbour was annoying, but she as supposed to be. And I warmed to her later.

I felt they overdid it a bit with the sexual stuff, although I understand that features in the comics too. It felt like they were overcompensating a bit due to the lack of explicit rumpy pumpy in the he other shows.

I'm not saying characters shouldn't have sex. I just prefer it to be implied rather than shown. The (grantedly few) sequences were almost soft porn! Although without any actual nudity, to be fair.

But overall, it was rather good.

I'd recommend Daredevil certainly.

I'm not that fussed about the upcoming Cage spinoff (the character didn't really do it for me either although their fight sequence was great), but i'll likely give it a go.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Professor Bear 21 January, 2016, 02:57:42 PM
I don't think we'd be having a conversation about the "likeability" of the protagonist if it was a man

Most reviewers touch upon the likeability of protagonists, they just don't use gender as a yardstick - IE, male PIs being "hard-boiled", "laconic", "no-nonsense", and so on.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: IndigoPrime 21 January, 2016, 03:14:23 PM
Bar some minor wobbles regarding pacing, internal logic, and editing (a voiceover popping up now and again, and then vanishing for good), I thought Jessica Jones was the best of the MCU to date. Only Iron Man and the first Avengers flick rival it in my mind. I'm really happy to see it's getting a second run.

As for likeable, I don't really see how that factors into it. People here raved over Dredd, and he's basically a fascist who goes round shooting people in that film. Empathy and sympathy, however, might be more to the point, depending on the life you've led. I know a lot of women found the series equal parts compelling and difficult with Kilgrave clearly being an analogue for an abusive and controlling partner.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Dandontdare 21 January, 2016, 05:08:01 PM
My point was that people were citing JJ's likeability as a reason why they didn't rate the show, rather than just as character trait - Nobody has said Dredd is a crap film, or that they didn't enjoy watching it because he's not likeable.

As for the junkie, I found him very endearing later on in the show.
Funnily enough, I quite liked him as a junkie it was when he became such a whiney earnest do-gooder that he began to bug me!

I googled the EXIT sign thing and somebody else had mentioned it on reddit, and was nastily shot down because NY buildings have to have exit signs due to fire codes ("ITS A FUCKING FIRECODE!!! GO READ UP ON NFPA1 NOOB") - when it's obvious that these can be removed, or shots re-framed when filming - there are just too many prominent ones in in JJ to not be deliberate.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: IndigoPrime 21 January, 2016, 05:44:40 PM
My point was that people were citing JJ's likeability as a reason why they didn't rate the show, rather than just as character trait - Nobody has said Dredd is a crap film, or that they didn't enjoy watching it because he's not likeable.

I was agreeing with you on that point. I think if nothing else, Jessica Jones has starkly highlighted some people's response to a show breaking from the default 'male gaze' stance that pervades pretty much everything on telly, and certainly the vast majority of anything linked to comics. I saw quite a few people 'disgusted' at the way she shagged blokes and tossed them aside, and when challenged on the reverse happening frequently argued that was somehow different.

Frankly, I thought Jones was an interesting and nuanced character. And it was also rather nice to see a show that didn't so much pass as blaze through the Bechdel test every episode.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Theblazeuk 22 January, 2016, 11:59:38 AM
I think I'd still find John Jones* to be boring, contradictory and irritatingly stupid for huge chunks of the show, particularly if he mastered that sullen pount. I'm sure there are a lot of people falling on the old double standard, but I don't think it's universally the source of criticism. The Dredd comparison falls apart on any examination (I am pretty sure 0% of screen time was spent on Dredd's motivation, his backstory, his emotions) though I do understand your point.

I'd be happy if they cut all sex scenes at the bedroom door if it meant more time for stuff I actually cared about, a faster pace...

Oh and I'm not convinced it did pass the Bechdel Test :) Everyone is talking about Killgrave...

I never warmed to TV Jessica the same way I did to Alias - though it quickly became apparent TV Jessica is a much more aggressive character than comic Jessica, so I tried to stop making comparisons. The world they occupy is also so much different and offers less opportunity for interesting complications outside of Killgrave himself.

I personally think the major problem was leading with the flashbacks, trauma etc, way before we actually had any reason to believe this woman was ever anything different. And that Jessica's main obstacle was small locks. By the end it was a much better show and I thought the terrible events in the lift were extremely well shot, and were my main motivation for persevering till things ramped up. The supporting cast were a mixed bag of excellence (Pattie), blandness (Luke), personality (Malcolm) and problematic writing (Will & Hope, and in completely different way, crazy neighbours, ergh).

I suppose overall I say it was OK to good, with some very mixed moments. Don't think it was the best thing by Marvel so far by any measure but see it as a good stab at a harder challenge than Daredevil (which I rate as the best). Marvel messed up Agents of Shield for a good 60% of the time and that should have been the easiest to pull off really, on that basis JJ was actually surprisingly good.

*Anyone who gets the reference should know that Jonn Jonzz would be a much different show anyway :)
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: IndigoPrime 22 January, 2016, 12:13:55 PM
Oh and I'm not convinced it did pass the Bechdel Test :) Everyone is talking about Killgrave...
I suspect at least once in every episode, two women have at least a two-line conversation that isn't about a man. That's essentially all that's required to pass the test, which is why it's so astonishing a great many films and TV shows fail.

It'd be interesting to see how familiarity with the source material impacts on people's enjoyment (or lack thereof) of the show. I know very little about this area of the Marvel universe. I read a few Daredevil crossovers with Spider-Man as a kid, but that's about it. So I'm coming into all this stuff completely blind. For what it's worth, I do agree with quite a lot of your criticisms, Theblazeuk, but they didn't knock back the show to nearly the same extent for me.

As for Agents of SHIELD, I quite like that now, although it's very popcorn. The first half of the first season was dreadful, but it found its feet. It does have a habit (along with quite a lot of the MCU) of going for very high body counts with few ramifications for the heroes, though, which I find distasteful. "Oh, it's OK, because they're BAD GUYS." I think of that Invisibles comic increasingly frequently these days.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Theblazeuk 22 January, 2016, 07:54:18 PM
I love Shield now but it was really tough going for the first season till Winter Soldier events kicked in, and even in the second series it had a few dull, irritating slips back into rubbish-ness.

However Coulson skydived into a portal to an alien world with three moons, on a mission to hunt down an enemy agent and rescue his people from a terrible being. And his first words when arriving were "Tatooine". So I am 100% sold on that show at this point. The body count is pretty high but then everything we see of the bad guys makes them appear to be fanatical murderers. Plus we see plenty of SHIELD agents drop like flies, stabbed in the back on many occasions - feels like the stakes are higher than in the regular Marvel world.

They even made me interested in the Inhumans :o Though I still wish it could have been good old fashioned X-Gene mutants :(

(And RE the bechdel test, I just thought it would be funny if it did fail because most conversations are at least obliquely about Jessica's encounters with Killgrave. Probably at least one of the lawyer/lover/wife scenes are all about women. It would have just been hilarious if it failed that extremely low bar for entirely different reasons than most films/TV shows.)
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Professor Bear 22 January, 2016, 09:15:15 PM
Except it wouldn't be failing for entirely different reasons other shows and movies do, it would be failing for exactly the same reason: they talk about men, be it their boyfriends or their rapists.

It should be pointed out that the Bechdel Test isn't any actual scientific test or anything, it's just an observational technique in the same way Godwin's Law is.  It doesn't have any actual merit as a yardstick of something's feminist credentials, as there are plenty of feminist works that would fail it, but something like Rambo 2 or Transformers would pass.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Theblazeuk 25 January, 2016, 10:38:17 AM
Yeesh. Methinks things are being taken a tad too seriously.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Goaty 15 February, 2016, 02:44:51 PM
Daredevil Season 2 trailer; https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m5_A0Wx0jU4 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m5_A0Wx0jU4)
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: COMMANDO FORCES 24 February, 2016, 05:59:16 PM
They've just put up a 15 second clip of Elektra finishing off some thugs on the top of a building.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: amines2058 24 February, 2016, 06:24:29 PM
They've just put up a 15 second clip of Elektra finishing off some thugs on the top of a building.

fnarr...fnarr snigger!! nudge nudge wink wink say no more!!
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Goaty 24 February, 2016, 08:00:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyjgAyc2eV0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyjgAyc2eV0)

(http://i.imgur.com/4cbEJtt.jpg)
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Goaty 24 February, 2016, 08:02:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcaeGErMVXI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcaeGErMVXI)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZKGZhxx.jpg)
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: COMMANDO FORCES 25 February, 2016, 01:57:05 PM
The second trailer is online now and it's looking good.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Goaty 08 March, 2016, 08:00:05 PM
OOoh, Punisher get overkill...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cc_uORlUEAEoDBc.jpg)
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: JOE SOAP 08 March, 2016, 09:18:10 PM
(http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/daredevil-season-2-poster.jpg)
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Link Prime 09 March, 2016, 09:38:14 AM
Looks great.
I'm one of the few left on Earth without a Netflix account, so it will be a while before I catch up with this.
I've been looking around for a Blu-ray of the 1st season too, nowhere to be found yet.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Goaty 09 March, 2016, 10:21:05 AM
Looks great.
I'm one of the few left on Earth without a Netflix account, so it will be a while before I catch up with this.
I've been looking around for a Blu-ray of the 1st season too, nowhere to be found yet.

Season 1 will be out on Blu-Ray in June this year.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: IndigoPrime 09 March, 2016, 10:27:40 AM
I'm one of the few left on Earth without a Netflix account
Any reason for this? If it's not kit/bandwidth-related, you can always try the free trial and watch that way.
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: Satanist 09 March, 2016, 11:07:34 AM
Please, please be the good version of Punisher I've always imagined.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Link Prime 09 March, 2016, 02:34:40 PM
I'm one of the few left on Earth without a Netflix account
Any reason for this? If it's not kit/bandwidth-related, you can always try the free trial and watch that way.

That's the main reason IP. I'm currently tied into a contract with Three.ie (15GB allowance per month for €25).
It would be possible to use Netflix, but I'd soon reach my limit. The contract is up in July, and I'm planning to switch to an unlimited package with Sky.

However, even without the broadband limitation I don't know if I'd be inclined to give up purchasing  the discs. I have, for want of a better description, a severe case of 'collector mentality' (I'm sure it is a common illness with our fellow boarders).
I really like having a full wall in my living room filled with DVD's / BD's, and consistently add discs to the collection (although I'm definitely more selective than I used to be).
There is also the appeal of 'owning' a copy of the movie / box-set, and one that I can lend to friends or family if I so wish.

PS- Cheers for the heads up on the season 1 Blu-ray Goaty, I'll keep an eye out for it in the summer.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: IndigoPrime 09 March, 2016, 02:45:39 PM
Given the transient (and frequently DRM-encrusted) nature of digital content, I don't think there's anything odd in wanting ownership of an object, especially if you're likely to want to rewatch something at a time of your choosing. We do the same here, although most of our viewing is now through streaming. (It turns out there's not a great deal we actually want to rewatch! Too many good shows; not enough hours, especially with a miniature human stomping about the place.)
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Link Prime 09 March, 2016, 02:48:12 PM
Too many good shows; not enough hours

It's not just me then?  :D
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: COMMANDO FORCES 09 March, 2016, 03:03:45 PM
Same here! Every so often, we look through the V+ box, or whatever it's called and cull stuff we have decided not to bother with any more!
It's the sign of the times, as the Belle Stars once said!
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Professor Bear 09 March, 2016, 03:51:11 PM
I'm just going to jump in here and say to LP that I am the only person I know who didn't have a bad experience with Sky as a broadband provider, and that is because even after all the horror stories I'd heard I still gave them a go and their service never once connected to the internet from my home so they couldn't actually enforce my contract when I finally got fed up and went with BT instead.  And yes, by "enforce my contract" I mean they threatened legal action to make me pay them for services they never delivered, so their customer service arguably needs a bit of work, too.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Link Prime 09 March, 2016, 04:06:07 PM
Noted Prof, cheers.
As an aside- I've found Three.ie infuriating and will likely get into bed with the first broadband provider who winks at me in July.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Dandontdare 09 March, 2016, 06:03:20 PM
Too many good shows; not enough hours

It's not just me then?  :D

I've got four seasons of Breaking Bad and two seasons of Game of Thrones on my shelf waiting to be watched; also desperately catching up with daredevil on Netfliox and I intend to do House of cards and Orange is the New Black if I ever get the time!

Does anyone else find that as soon as you've actually GOT something on tape/disk/magical digibox and can watch it any time, you lose the urge to do so? I used to get this when I taped films off the telly - if I knew I had to watch it at a certain time, I'd do so, but once it's recorded, it could sit on the shelf for years.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: IndigoPrime 09 March, 2016, 07:25:28 PM
We have far too many shrink-wrapped seasons of DVDs, so exactly that.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Goaty 18 March, 2016, 10:25:45 AM
Daredevil Season 2 just on Netflix now! Just saw first 15 mins, brutal opening! Hope this time Punisher is successful version!
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Pyroxian 18 March, 2016, 11:38:46 AM
Daredevil Season 2 just on Netflix now! Just saw first 15 mins, brutal opening! Hope this time Punisher is successful version!

:) Good to hear. I'm planning on grabbing a takeaway on the way home from work, and then sitting in front of my TV and not moving for the rest of the night :)
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: DaveGYNWA 19 March, 2016, 09:30:22 AM
Just 3 episodes in but already I'm grinning like a cheshire cat - Punisher = nailed, and a fight sequence to rival the hallway sequence from season 1.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Tiplodocus 19 March, 2016, 03:42:23 PM
Just seen the first episode and I liked the way it contrasted DDs style in taking down the bad guys with the Punisher's methods.

Wasn't so keen on how Punisher lost the ability to shoot straight in the hospital.

I'll 'fess up. I know nothing about Punisher except his name and basic premise - no idea what sort of character he is.  But I like Bernthal in what I've seen; the "sweaty menace" he exuded in Walking Dead was superb (thanks to whichever Board member coined that term) and his neanderthal turn in FURY.  Hopefully he works for  this role.

But fuck it, that Foggy guy is still in it.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Satanist 21 March, 2016, 01:55:36 PM
I've been watching this over weekend and am at ep 10. They've pretty much nailed The Punisher though I still think he could be nastier. Gotta say I'm enjoying this a lot.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: DaveGYNWA 21 March, 2016, 02:45:42 PM
They've pretty much nailed The Punisher though I still think he could be nastier.

You'll be wanting episode 11 in that case....oooffff.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Satanist 21 March, 2016, 02:58:40 PM
They've pretty much nailed The Punisher though I still think he could be nastier.

You'll be wanting episode 11 in that case....oooffff.

I cant watch it tonight as Mrs is out (or could I) hmm :lol:
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Tiplodocus 21 March, 2016, 10:51:30 PM
Episode 3 - So a pretty awesome rooftop dialogue between Daredevil and Punished followed by a stupidly good hall way and stair well fight is ruined by some dull as dishwater stuff with Foggy in a hospital. It really dragged you out of the rooftop drama.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: DaveGYNWA 22 March, 2016, 08:23:25 AM
All done - loved it, absolutely loved it...didn't have the 'drag' that occurred with season 1 as it approached the finale, it just kept going and going.

Anyone who is still to watch it....stick around for the little trailer snippet after the end credits.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Hawkmumbler 22 March, 2016, 09:38:46 AM
Still haven't seen Season 1 (though I have seen Jessica Jones) so need to marathon it soon enough.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Radbacker 22 March, 2016, 01:55:32 PM
i got stuck about episode 8 or 9 first season, I was enjoying it but life got n the way looks like I'm gonna have to find time this long eater weekend to binge.

CU Radbacker
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: pauljholden 22 March, 2016, 03:53:24 PM
Slightly amazed to see they got Fing Fang Foom in there...
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Steve Green 02 April, 2016, 09:47:49 AM
Finished the series last night.

I don't know - the Punisher arc seemed more satisfying than a lot of the Elektra one.

I've not read any Daredevil, and only the Ennis Punisher.

There were just little things that bugged me.

The plan to steal the ledger hanging on not a single person discovering the bodies in the toilet.

Them *really* not bothering about fingerprints in that plan.

It not dawning on Stick and Murdock that resurrection might be a possibility.

A bit of fuzziness over the Hand wanting Elektra dead, and Stick saving her - then switching positions but not much reason given (admittedly this was a binge watch so may have missed that)

Was the massive hole ever explained?
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Keef Monkey 18 April, 2016, 05:06:02 PM
Just finished off Daredevil S2 last night, loved it. Never really clicked with Elektra, her character didn't seem particularly sympathetic to me so she was just kind of the nuisance who kept popping up and throwing a spanner in the works. Not sure I ever bought that Matt would ditch his blossoming relationship with Karen or his friendship with Foggy. I did love seeing Foggy come to the realization he's a kickass lawyer, and was nice to see Karen finding her calling too.

The real thrill for me though was the handling of The Punisher, which I thought was superb. Bernthal was fantastic, and he was written as a much more sympathetic character than I expected. As a big Punisher fan (it's the only Marvel comic I've ever really dug deep into) I was absolutely thrilled with his depiction.

On top of that the fight scenes were better than ever (I remember being really impressed with the corridor fight in S1, but within three episodes S2 blows that out the water. That stairway fight is probably the best action scene I've seen in a TV show), and the whole thing looked really stylish (as much as I really enjoyed Jessica Jones I feel like the telly budget is more apparent in that than DD, particularly where the action is concerned).

Very happy with it, and the last scene with Frank had me punching the air, that shot of him walking away from his burning home with the minigun was great and the Micro disc shows they've got some plans for him in the future. Curious to see if he gets his own show or if he'll be popping up in Luke Cage.


Short version is I really liked it.
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: Dandontdare 18 April, 2016, 06:02:07 PM
Feeling a bit poorly so took a day off today and just watched the final 4 episodes of DD, and I have to agree with all of the above.

There have been hints throughout both seasons that Karen is going to take a similar route to the comics  :'(. Elektra didn't bug me too much (though I don't think I've ever seen a woman with bigger nostrils!) and the fight sequences are top rate.

The only thing that I thought made no sense at all was Fisk springing Frank out of prison - his plan was to use him and then kill him, but he then witnessed what an unstoppable killing machine he was - even more reason to finish him off, rather than just piss him off and turn him loose.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Mardroid 18 April, 2016, 10:14:36 PM
I think the Fisk is banking on Frank slaughtering a fair portion of the competition, making it easier for him to take over as kingpin when he gets out.

A bit of a chance, sure, since he has to then deal with Frank too. And I doubt Fisk underestimates him, but he is the kind of character who enjoys a challenge.
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: Goaty 18 April, 2016, 10:20:14 PM
Fisk fights with Frank and Matt was great! No kung-fu bullshit, just heavy guy fight!
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Dandontdare 18 April, 2016, 10:58:30 PM
I think the Fisk is banking on Frank slaughtering a fair portion of the competition, making it easier for him to take over as kingpin when he gets out.

A bit of a chance, sure, since he has to then deal with Frank too. And I doubt Fisk underestimates him, but he is the kind of character who enjoys a challenge.


I disagree. He's the kind of man who plans carefully and takes care to eliminate every threat. To just unleash an incredibly capable loose cannon with every reason to hate him seems totally out of character. I do like how they've kept Fisk so physically dangerous though, rather than just a fat mob-boss
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: Mardroid 18 April, 2016, 11:12:08 PM
Oh he is careful, and he plans for sure.

I think this is part of that. He sees Frank as an asset to get his way. I think he might be hoping that Punnisher will clash with Daredevil too, and one will deal with the other just leaving him one to defeat.

Point taken, he'd have that if he'd just killed Frank too, but there would still be the other crimelords.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Theblazeuk 29 April, 2016, 12:43:43 PM
I also think that prison is making Fisk a little crazier than before, more villainous. Soon he'll be building Spider Slayers and hiring the Hobgoblin.

Finished it off yesterday, overall I enjoyed it - think the Hand and so on was always going to struggle and they did it well. Less interesting than the Punisher arc and never really came together like they hoped, but good stuff in general and I'm happy to see more weird in Daredevil. Though some of those things were a little extraneous ultimately, like the rescued kids turning all Jerusalem's Lot, and who was in the resurrection chamber when Matt broke into the hideout? I guess maybe all of the Hand's ninjas go through there, Wolverine comic showed they are pretty much all brought back from the dead. Plus Stick's claim to 'screw these amateurs lets get the old gang back together' never really went anywhere.

I enjoyed seeing the Punisher tremendously though and I hope they do at least a 6-part or so series following just Frank Castle being Frank Castle. Lucky none of those cops at the end took a shot whilst he was being Batman though.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Satanist 29 April, 2016, 02:56:25 PM
Punisher series has been announced...

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/29/punisher-marvel-netflix?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter

This makes me happy.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Dandontdare 29 April, 2016, 03:30:05 PM
Great news!

I like the way these series are interlinked creating their own distinct gritty Marvel universe, so lots of scope for team-ups and crossovers - A Trifecta sort of story would be great with Daredevil, Jessica JonesLuke cage and Punisher all pursuing apparently different stories in their own series which then collide in a huge feature length mash-up!
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: IndigoPrime 29 April, 2016, 07:12:07 PM
We've not yet finished Daredevil (the series is pushing Mrs G to the brink, and I suspect any third series will be solo viewing, if I bother), but it's hard where we're currently at (a few episodes from the end) to see how a Punisher series could work. I've always found Punisher a bit one-note anyway, so having him murder his way through 13 episodes, justifying it because they're bad guys, seems like it could get quite tedious.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Theblazeuk 30 April, 2016, 12:39:35 AM
Supporting characters get caught between the Punisher and his victims :)
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: Mardroid 30 April, 2016, 07:49:41 PM
We've not yet finished Daredevil (the series is pushing Mrs G to the brink, and I suspect any third series will be solo viewing, if I bother), but it's hard where we're currently at (a few episodes from the end) to see how a Punisher series could work. I've always found Punisher a bit one-note anyway, so having him murder his way through 13 episodes, justifying it because they're bad guys, seems like it could get quite tedious.

I know what you mean. I really liked Castle in Daredevil, but I wonder how he would sustain a series devoted just to him, particularly as he was such a central character in those Daredevil episodes in which he appeared. Granted they were just a few, but maybe that in itself is a good thing.

Then again, I haven't read that much Punnisher comic stuff. It could be there are storylines that really keep things fresh for the character.

Let's see how it goes.

Anyone looking forward to the Luke Cage series? I believe that's next.

After seeing him is Jessica Jones, I was kind of... meh. I'm kind of looking forward to it now though, if with reservations. The jacket gag in the trailer at the end of DD2 was amusing, at least.

I would likely have watched it anyway as I like the things they are doing with the Netflix side of the Marvel tv-filmiverse.

Incidentally, as part of Zavvi's recent 2 Blu-ray for £15.99 deal, I took a chance and ordered Agent Carter series 1. I missed it on the telly, but I've read good things on here and elsewhere. I was originally going with Guardians of the Galaxy and Antman. I replaced Antman with Carter although I'll probably catch the former at some point.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: IndigoPrime 30 April, 2016, 10:41:11 PM
Anyone looking forward to the Luke Cage series? I believe that's next.
Not really, nor Iron Fist, but I'll watch, in the hope they're good. Cage in JJ wasn't that interesting to me; I'm very glad JJ itself was renewed though.

I took a chance and ordered Agent Carter series 1. I missed it on the telly, but I've read good things on here and elsewhere. I was originally going with Guardians of the Galaxy and Antman. I replaced Antman with Carter although I'll probably catch the former at some point.
To me, Antman felt like a different (and possibly better) film was often struggling to get out. In part, it was clearly hampered by the huge shift during production. Lots of rewrites. Still quite good, though.

Carter wobbles a bit here and there, but I enjoyed the bulk of the two series. I recall the first took its time to get going; the second, bizarrely, had pretty dreadful first and last episodes, but the rest were very good on the whole. Still no word on a third season, annoyingly.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Keef Monkey 03 May, 2016, 09:55:53 AM
the rescued kids turning all Jerusalem's Lot, and who was in the resurrection chamber when Matt broke into the hideout? I guess maybe all of the Hand's ninjas go through there, Wolverine comic showed they are pretty much all brought back from the dead..

Haven't read the comics, but my read of it in the show was that there was never anyone in it, rather everything they were doing with the blood etc. was prep work to 'charge' it for a single use, and it's purpose was always to bring Elektra back if things went that way.

Could be wrong though, but was the way it seemed to me!
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Satanist 03 May, 2016, 10:58:58 AM
I've always found Punisher a bit one-note anyway, so having him murder his way through 13 episodes, justifying it because they're bad guys, seems like it could get quite tedious.

You could say the same about Dredd(comic) or Dexter(tv) as characters. All they have to do is follow Ennis Punisher Max run (especially the Slavers story) and you would have some quality drama right there.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: IndigoPrime 03 May, 2016, 01:27:52 PM
Perhaps. To be fair, I don't know Punisher all that well, but the Ennis stuff I read didn't feel especially deep nor terribly nuanced. And I never finished watching Dexter (I think I watched five or six seasons), but it had some complexity beyond "kill someone every week just because they deserve it".

I'm quite happy to be proven wrong with this, but it doesn't strike me as a show I'll be clamouring to watch on day one. (Mind you, we've stalled on DD in IP HQ now. Not sure when we'll finish it. It doesn't help that Matt Murdoch is an intolerable, selfish, delusional prick, who I'd be quite happy to see written out of his own show.)
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Theblazeuk 03 May, 2016, 01:40:19 PM
Depends on which Ennis.

The Marvel Knights run is Ennis indulging himself by gleefully abusing all of the Marvel standards of spandex and ridiculousness. It's fun - it gave us the Russian, Wolverine getting steamrollered and lots of other good stuff - but it's never deep. Never lets seriousness get in the way of a good joke though you do get a decent plot and characters throughout, it's basically Preacher without a philosophy.

The MAX run though is where the gloves come off and the Punisher leaves the world of superheroes, and becomes a well-equipped serial killer with only one kind of prey.

Anyway... back to DD. I think the weakest part of this season has been the lack of Nelson and Murdoch.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: IndigoPrime 03 May, 2016, 04:16:27 PM
Looking at Wiki, we made it to episode 9. I'm sure we'll get round to the other four at some point, but, really, I couldn't give a shit about Murdoch. I'm mostly watching for Karen Page now (and hoping that the people behind the show don't follow her path in the comics remotely closely, because otherwise nuts to the series).
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Dandontdare 07 May, 2016, 12:08:41 AM
I'm mostly watching for Karen Page now (and hoping that the people behind the show don't follow her path in the comics remotely closely, because otherwise nuts to the series).

There has been the odd line of dialogue that suggests they will. I do not foresee a happy ending for Karen!
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: JamesC 25 May, 2016, 01:45:11 PM
Well I've just finished watching Daredevil series 2 and, I have to say, I have pretty mixed feelings about it.
Firstly, I think the whole thing is just too slow paced.
The Punisher and Karen Page are obviously the best things about it and Josie's is a great location that feels like a real place. I think Nurse Claire is a good character too and it's a shame she didn't have more to do.
Matt Murdock himself is sort of likeable despite his mopeyness, due to the performance of Charlie Cox. Unfortunately the whole Hand/Elektra/Stick plot was just boring. I couldn't care less what happens to Elektra, she's a totally uninteresting character. I got completely fed up watching Daredevil punch 3rd rate ninjas too - again, it was just boring.
What else?...Oh yes, Foggy Nelson. A really good character in the first series but this time it felt like he was only there to remind the viewer that there's something else Matt should be doing.

I'll be interested to see where things go from here. The Punisher show holds promise - I thought his portrayal in DD was interesting but I wouldn't go so far as to say they 'nailed it'.
In future DD series I'd like to see a slightly more upbeat tone and a faster pace.   
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Tiplodocus 25 May, 2016, 01:56:07 PM
I got completely fed up watching Daredevil punch 3rd rate ninjas too - again, it was just boring.

I agree with lots of the above and in particular this bit.  There was just a sameyness to the actin sequences that meant it got pretty dull and repetitive.  There was an episode where they had a bit of a car chase - surely by now the most boring of Hollywood staples - but it stood out just because it was different.  (Similarly, the episode where they actually went out in daylight and blue skies was a welcome relief to the dark colour palette).

It needs a bit of inventiveness; a chase swinging over the roof tops might be fun, a tense heist scene or a fight that takes place in, and utilises the props of, a different physical envirnoment (something other than a rooftop or a corridor!).
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Theblazeuk 25 May, 2016, 02:39:26 PM
Yeah, the swarms of ninjas definitely proved the rule of Conservation of Ninjutsu

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConservationOfNinjutsu
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: IndigoPrime 25 May, 2016, 03:20:36 PM
We trudged through the final two episodes last night. Safe to say I'll be watching any third series on my own—if I bother. Matt Murdoch remained a total dick right until the end, to the point I just don't care about him in the slightest. I'm not very familiar with Daredevil comics, and so I don't know if he's usually this much of a selfish git with a martyr complex, but urgh. Karen Page was excellent, and I really don't understand people's obsession online with her character not adhering to the comics. Her end there is fucking horrible. If they did that on the telly, I might quit with Marvel-related stuff altogether.

As for the finale itself, it had some serious Stormtrooper stuff going on. A million ninjas! Now suddenly only a dozen or so! Heroes beat the shit out of loads of enemies! Heroes now get duffed up by one enemy! The lack of internal logic was evident and the fight scenes were just dull.

By the end, Foggy was anonymous too, and I couldn't give a rat's arse about Punisher, who shows up too late to save one person getting stabbed, because, hey, the plot demanded that the guy who can apparently predict where a person will drive can't make it to a rooftop in a timely fashion.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: JamesC 25 May, 2016, 05:09:11 PM
The Daredevil comics tend to range between dark and dismal - with Matt and co (particularly Karen) being put through the wringer - and street level swashbuckling. I prefer the latter if I'm honest.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Dandontdare 25 May, 2016, 05:41:24 PM
Karen Page was excellent, and I really don't understand people's obsession online with her character not adhering to the comics. Her end there is fucking horrible. If they did that on the telly, I might quit with Marvel-related stuff altogether.

I can certainly see the rest of your points but this one I don't get - It's true that Karen's fate in the comics was horrible, but it was a bloody good story, one of the most gripping periods of DD history. Often the best drama comes from horrible things happening to good people. If every character we were supposed to root for had a happy ending, there'd be no tension or tragedy and everything would have a sanitised Disney feel. To see her decline as per the comics will certainly be harrowing, but at the end of the day, it's all fiction!

Even if you think this is the wrong way for this particular character to go, or decide that you just wouldn't enjoy watching it (there are a number of brilliant powerful films that I don't really want to watch again because they are so upsetting); to boycott marvel's entire output smacks of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: IndigoPrime 25 May, 2016, 05:48:06 PM
It's just, well, Frank Miller. It struck me as unnecessarily vile, and a bit too much like fridging. I'm not against drama nor loss, but the character deserves better, and her path in the MCU's already suitably different from what I know in the comics.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Link Prime 05 July, 2016, 05:23:35 PM
Looks great.
I'm one of the few left on Earth without a Netflix account, so it will be a while before I catch up with this.
I've been looking around for a Blu-ray of the 1st season too, nowhere to be found yet.

Season 1 will be out on Blu-Ray in June this year.

Zavvi have it up for pre-order, release date pushed back to October.
That Joe Quesada Steelbook has turned my head; http://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/daredevil-season-1-zavvi-uk-exclusive-steelbook/11312347.html
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Goaty 22 July, 2016, 07:44:48 AM

Luke Cage trailer - so every series got to have that scene?
http://youtu.be/ml_xt1KAgyo (http://youtu.be/ml_xt1KAgyo)

Iron Fist teaser trailer
http://youtu.be/a_N2sJZBAT0 (http://youtu.be/a_N2sJZBAT0)

The Defenders teaser trailer
http://youtu.be/1o5UjCKzh1s (http://youtu.be/1o5UjCKzh1s)
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Goaty 09 August, 2016, 03:45:01 PM
Luke Cage new trailer.
Series out on 30th Sept.

https://youtu.be/ytkjQvSk2VA (https://youtu.be/ytkjQvSk2VA)
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: CrazyFoxMachine 09 August, 2016, 07:37:18 PM
Lady Geoffery and I finally finished Daredevil S2 this month after watching it one episode sort-of every week since it came out. The first series was untouchably good in my eyes but thissun was weaker by a way. It retained a good sense of character throughout and the performances were great. The action was still fantastically measured as well but I felt about halfway through it started to meander a bit. The strong dynamic between DD & P was brilliantly engaging - his hunt, trial and temporary incarceration extraordinary but the more we got into Elektra and The Hand the more the strong focus which made the first so phenomenal got muddier and muddier (the build-up to Defenders possibly). The final two episodes were guilty of  dipping into some really irritating cliches and felt more Agents of SHIELD than Netflix Marvel Punisher feeling almost crowbarred into the action to set him up for 'more to come'. All this weight is being put on by the fact that 2016's DD is now a part of the Marvel Netflixverse rather than a bold new experiment.

A shame but I fully admit I'm tainted by my expectations from the stunning S1 (finally out on DVD this year!!) and there wasn't nearly enough bad going on here to capsize my view that DD is the strongest superhero television series ever made.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Goaty 04 October, 2016, 09:19:23 PM
Just start Luke Cage on Netflix, now at end of 4th episode. Enjoy it. As ever, every Marvel series got excellent 3rd episode as this does!

Nice classic comic costume of Luke Cage on 4th.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Trout 05 October, 2016, 07:25:58 AM
I just binged my way to the end of Luke Cage. Supercool stuff.

It had some silly moments (acid bath surgery and the weirdly lucky celebrity encounter spring to mind), but they were pretty minor. The whole thing was a treat, especially the way the "discredited superhero hunted by the police" trope (Spider-man: threat or menace?) was folded into commentary about the way African-Americans are treated by law enforcement.

And the music was amazing.

I can't wait to see Cage again.

- Trout
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Mardroid 05 October, 2016, 06:29:07 PM
Hoping my home internet connection is fixed soon so I can watch Cage. (I used my phones hotspot to watch some Netflix recently. I have a fair amount data on my phones data allowance, but it was quite an eyeopener to see how much it got through, so I'll be careful with the rest.)

I didn't like the character much in Jessica Jones but this does seem promisong..
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Goaty 06 October, 2016, 06:08:23 PM
Wow, just finish the series. I enjoy it! Good casting even villains, Cottonmouth was good  ;)

Nice marvel Easter eggs there. Even it in same universe as Marvel films.

I liked Shades character!
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Dandontdare 07 October, 2016, 11:58:22 AM
Can't decide whether to renew my Netflix sub now (I cancelled it when they jacked up the price by £2 pm) or wait until there are more series I want to binge on - like more Daredevil and Jessica Jones.

: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Goaty 09 October, 2016, 07:28:55 AM
Trailer for Iron Fist

https://youtu.be/0sEJeWB3RA8 (https://youtu.be/0sEJeWB3RA8)
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: JOE SOAP 29 December, 2016, 03:16:16 AM
For the first time since the 1980's the reclusive CEO of Marvel Entertainment - Ike Perlmutter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Perlmutter) - has been photographed in public. This time with the Trumpet of the Apocalypse (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/reclusive-marvel-ceo-ike-perlmutter-photographed-public-959632) himself:

(http://cdn5.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/landscape_928x523/2016/12/rtrleight452169-h_2016.jpg)


This is the only other publicly available photo:


(http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/320x486.jpg)

: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Dr Feeley Good 29 December, 2016, 09:57:12 AM
Enjoyed the first series of Daredevil and Jessica Jones,thought the second series of Daredevil was OK but must admit I've hated Lake Cage,painful to watch,it just seems to have dragged on and on...didn't mind him at all in Jessica Jones.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: IndigoPrime 29 December, 2016, 10:37:00 AM
I thought Cage was OK, but slow and riddled with stereotypes. DD just became a miserable series about someone screaming LOOK AT ME! I'M A MARTYR to the point I don't care any more. I'd happily watch a Karen Page series, but I'm done with DD. Jessica Jones was, bar the first and last episodes, rather good though.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: CrazyFoxMachine 25 March, 2017, 09:24:56 PM
Well I know the official Iron Fist talk was going on in the TV boxsets thread but let's drag it all back here. I'd been avoiding this thread because I was taking my time with Cage - shame other folks didn't dig it. It certainly was quite uneven but I found it far more likeable than the angsty JJ - what with the awesome soundtrack and fun setpieces and all. The last episode was a damp fart though, and it all seemed to build towards nothing.

I've watched the first episode of Iron Fist and yeah, I can see where all the indifference lies and whereas it's not as mind-bogglingly dumb as say, most American network dramas, it's also not nearly as fun. Lacking the likeable cast of DD, the angsty edge of JJ and the class of LC it hasn't really got an identity of its own. Jones is a really unlikeable lead and mostly seems to be exactly the unnervingly whiny hobo that most of the bland rest of the cast assume that he is. The pacing is abominable - is it Danny? It can't be Danny. Could it be Danny? Surely not. BUT IS IT DANNY? WHO KNOWS? WHAT IF IT'S DANNY?

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-22-2015/drGM4V.gif)

In DD: S1 the Netflix meets Marvel thing was fresh and worked brilliantly, slowly and grittily building to an awesome climax with strong characterization - but after a good start the second season became entangled in what was clearly a muddy build-up to what'll be the background of the Defenders. Luke Cage (WHILE I ENJOYED IT) was clearly trying not to tread on any toes so ended up becoming a stylish but indulgent exercise in water-treadery. Ultimately they have to strike a better balance between mythos building and telling good stories. I didn't finish JJ so I'm not quite sure where it sits but presumably by both having both a coherent beginning-middle-and-end and introducing Cage it's more functional than HERE'S ROSARIO LET'S GET THE BAD GUYS OH THEY GOT AWAY HARLEM YAY.

I'll take a few months slowly absorbing Iron Fist (terrifying name for a porno) but I really hope it essentially leads right into Defenders rather than sitting with its own fairly straightforward narrative. But wait... isn't The Punisher showing up this year as well? Crikey.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Goaty 19 April, 2017, 10:27:37 PM
Trailer for new Series Marvel's Cloak & Dagger for teen audience on Freeform channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZFc3FzK344 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZFc3FzK344)

(http://cdn1-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2017/04/cloack-and-dagger-header-1.jpg)
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Professor Bear 20 April, 2017, 12:55:18 AM
Looks like that Tomorrow People remake mixed in with Heroes - a winning combo!
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Hawkmumbler 20 April, 2017, 09:54:11 AM
Thats exactly what I needed to reinstate my interest in Marvel Netflix after the mockery that was Iron Fist.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Theblazeuk 20 April, 2017, 11:18:52 AM
That's some lovely title design.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Colin YNWA 20 April, 2017, 12:37:14 PM
Oh that's interesting. I used to love them as characters back in the day. Kinda lost touch with them but it might be interesting to see what they do with the idea. That trailer is all foreshadowing so lets see where it goes ... although whether I will...
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: CrazyFoxMachine 20 April, 2017, 02:35:56 PM
Yeah not too bad, that. Looking forward to seeing the series I used to love those characters!
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Goaty 03 May, 2017, 02:18:42 PM
New trailer for the Defenders

https://youtu.be/4h3m7B4v6Zc (https://youtu.be/4h3m7B4v6Zc)
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: CrazyFoxMachine 11 May, 2017, 07:49:07 PM
....yeah - during episode 5 we decided to dump Iron Fist. It's not offensive, it's not terrible - but it's simplistic, shallow and extraordinarily bland.

It was Claire that did it - she just... shows up as if she's been written into the scene on the day it was being filmed and was grimly crowbarred in. Rosario is great but ... they couldn't find a better way to fit her in?

A lot of it was just "long-form for the sake of it" I feel - spending hours with scenarios that should have taken minutes. The ethical-guy-takes-on-big-pharma scenario genuinely seems like it was written in minutes by an idiot. It doesn't help anyone to be that crude about it but seriously. At times it made your standard Fox primetime trash show look like The Wire.

Happy to watch Rand as part of the ensemble in Defenders, but the groundwork here doesn't seem like it's worth eight more hours of my time.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Goaty 18 August, 2017, 09:05:16 PM
The Defenders is on Netflix today, first episode was quiet start. Look forward to next 7 episodes.

And in another news about Jessica Jones Season 2 as it in production;

Mr Killgrave aka David Tennant is there at the production, so he was alive or was he there for flashback scenes?
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Mardroid 18 August, 2017, 09:49:21 PM
The Defenders is on Netflix today, first episode was quiet start. Look forward to next 7 episodes.

And in another news about Jessica Jones Season 2 as it in production;

Mr Killgrave aka David Tennant is there at the production, so he was alive or was he there for flashback scenes?


I've been looking forward to this. I may restart my membership, if only for a short period.

Concerning the spoiler, I'm hoping it's the latter, unless they have a really good story behind it, as it gets a bit silly if death doesn't mean anything. There's been enough villain resurrection with The Hand as it is.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: JLC 20 August, 2017, 12:48:06 PM
So the Defenders was fun, basically a kung-fu action show. Left things open for the inevitable sequel.

& are we going to see a Misty Knight spin-off? Or a link between Defenders & Avengers. Apparently in the comics she gets a bionic arm from Tony Stark.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Bolt-01 31 August, 2017, 04:54:22 PM
Really enjoyed the Defenders- It benefitted from having a tighter plot, though there was still a fair old bit of standing around and talking.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: IndigoPrime 01 September, 2017, 11:25:52 PM
Just finished Defenders. Solid, but Rand is such a massive tool. The series kinda confirms for me that I'll be well up for more JJ, will watch more LC, couldn't give a hoot about DD, and would have to be paid good money to watch another second of IF.
: Re: Marvel Superheroes hit Netflix
: Jim_Campbell 20 September, 2017, 04:23:15 PM
No release date (still) but…

Punisher trailer. (https://youtu.be/lIY6zFL95hE)
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: JamesC 20 September, 2017, 06:40:31 PM
Looks promising. Not sure the changes to the origin were necessary - I always found the 'family killed in a crossfire' story satisfying enough. Still, shouldn't really get in the way of the shooty action!
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: Dandontdare 20 September, 2017, 08:09:40 PM
Doesn't  look like a big change - seems to more closely follow the Garth Ennis Punisher: Max version of the origin story (which I'd heartily recommend, along with Nick Fury: Max) than the original Marvel version - same gang shoot-out at the park, but turns out to be a FBI undercover sting that went wrong and was covered up, rather than just a random accident. The trailer does seem to make it more CIA/spooks than FBI, but we'll see.

Bottom line: naughty people - need punishment!
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: Goaty 20 September, 2017, 09:17:19 PM
Looks good, but hope it get lots of backstories of enemies to fill up the episodes like in comics!
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: TordelBack 20 September, 2017, 09:29:40 PM
Bottom line: naughty people - need punishment!

Specialist brothel name and slogan all in one.
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: Jim_Campbell 21 September, 2017, 07:03:11 AM
Bottom line: naughty people - need punishment!

And Metallica.
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: Keef Monkey 21 September, 2017, 09:26:36 AM
Looks promising. Not sure the changes to the origin were necessary - I always found the 'family killed in a crossfire' story satisfying enough. Still, shouldn't really get in the way of the shooty action!

Yeah the only part of that which confused me in the trailer (and bearing in mind I'm halfway through Luke Cage and haven't seen Iron Fist or Defenders yet) is that I thought they'd already covered his family's death in Daredevil, and it was the shootout in the park by the carousel. This trailer seems to suggest they were killed at home.

I could be totally misremembering the events of Daredevil though, it was a while ago!

Trailer looks immense though, and very authentically Punisher.
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: DaveGYNWA 21 September, 2017, 10:59:55 AM
Yeah the only part of that which confused me in the trailer (and bearing in mind I'm halfway through Luke Cage and haven't seen Iron Fist or Defenders yet) is that I thought they'd already covered his family's death in Daredevil, and it was the shootout in the park by the carousel. This trailer seems to suggest they were killed at home.

I could be totally misremembering the events of Daredevil though, it was a while ago!

Trailer looks immense though, and very authentically Punisher.

Yep, his wife and 2 kids are caught in the crossfire in a shootout in the park.

The bit from the trailer is probably a dream sequence: Frank, happy in his sleep, 'wakes' to find his wife in the room....and then BLAM. And then he wakes up.

That's my hope anyway - continuity be damned = mess as per comics.
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: Jim_Campbell 19 October, 2017, 07:23:33 PM
The Punisher: new trailer, and air date… (https://youtu.be/OMW_dPtm7Bo)
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: Link Prime 20 October, 2017, 09:46:25 AM
Seen several ads for the forthcoming Inhumans series on Sky recently.
Not sure if even Iwan Rheon's man-beard can save it.

I'll give it a go of course, but expectations are pretty low.
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: IndigoPrime 20 October, 2017, 09:48:09 AM
The Medium is not Enough (https://www.the-medium-is-not-enough.com) has been having fun tearing it to shreds. And the guy behind that even liked Iron Fist.

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: Jim_Campbell 20 October, 2017, 09:58:21 AM
I'll give it a go of course, but expectations are pretty low.

It's not bad, it's just desperately mediocre and utterly lacking in tension or excitement.
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: CalHab 20 November, 2017, 01:18:57 PM
A pretty interesting take on The Punisher and its problems:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/nov/20/the-punisher-netflix-marvel-glorifying-gun-violence

The journalist credits Garth Ennis as having the most successful take on the character.
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: JamesC 20 November, 2017, 06:54:18 PM
I'm up to about episode 4 of The Punisher and quite enjoying it. It doesn't feel very much like The Punisher though - more like an entirely new character.
I wish they'd have just taken the Max run and filmed it (either Ennis or Aaron's).
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: TordelBack 21 November, 2017, 07:30:08 AM
FrankenCastle or nothing.
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: JLC 22 November, 2017, 02:51:38 PM
Another dull Netflix Marvel show. Given up after 4 episodes.
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: Mardroid 23 November, 2017, 07:41:44 AM
I binged it over the weekend. I largely enjoyed that. I can't  really compare it to the comics as I haven't read much,  but I think it worked at what it was. A bit predictable in places. Who didn't guess the pretty boy ex-comrade would turn out to be a bad un? The shere viciousness of his revenge on a certain character in the last episode was a bit... much for me though. Really, rather disturbing. I know it's supposed to be, but even so.
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: The Legendary Shark 23 November, 2017, 10:19:28 AM
Yeah, it was pretty good, if a little slow in places and somewhat predictable in others. It superficially "explored" the gun control issue without being preachy either way and the violence was largely pedestrian, nothing we haven't seen before. Not too sure about the character of Castle, he seemed too stable to be a psycho killer (in my mind, he's the kind of person you have to be really careful around so as not to mention anything he happens to be unreasonably angry about today - which could be anything from murder to shampoo) and too unstable to be stone-cold sane. I think he was a bit bland, trying (and failing) too hard to be the stereotypical tortured hero.

I enjoyed it well enough, though, and hope for more seasons, but it's no Daredevil. 7/10.

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: Trooper McFad 30 November, 2018, 06:48:57 AM
So that’s Dare Devil now cancelled on Netflix after what I thought was a pretty good season 3. With Luke Cage & Iron Fist (weakest one) also cancelled it onl leaves Jessica Jones an probably a final season of the Punisher left from the Marvel studio on Netflix. Overall I thought they were better attempts at putting the super hero genre onto the small screen than the attempts on mainstream TV over the years. Even just comparing these with the DC set currently on Sky (though I’m currently watching Black Lighting also on Netflix and quite enjoying this for what it is).
It’ll be interesting to see if these characters turn up on the new Disney channel as the violent programs they were or a watered down nobody gets killed ever super hero romp.
Anywhoo a lot of content space left available for any Rebellion productions 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
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: CalHab 30 November, 2018, 08:54:45 AM
There are a ridiculous amount of superhero tv shows and films and even the hardest core fan couldn't follow them all. At some point there will be an implosion, and this might be Netflix anticipating it.

But then why do a big money deal with Mark Millar?
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: Jim_Campbell 30 November, 2018, 09:14:33 AM
At some point there will be an implosion, and this might be Netflix anticipating it.

But then why do a big money deal with Mark Millar?

I'm assuming that the Marvel thing is either coming from Disney, or is retaliation by Netflix for Disney's streaming plans. I imagine the Millar thing was, at least in part, a move to fill that part of their schedule that wasn't reliant on other people's IP and thus prone to this sort of thing.
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: Steve Green 30 November, 2018, 09:39:02 AM
Yeah I'm wondering what Disney/Marvel will do with the properties - even the series that have already been made.

Fisk mashing someones head in a car door doesn't seem like the kind of thing Disney would want on their streaming services.

Unless they set up a Touchstone equivalent for streaming, or the Netflix series already made stay there?
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: TordelBack 30 November, 2018, 10:47:24 AM
You'd imagine that the DC TV shows have a much wider potential audience - my own kids enjoy them, The Flash and Supergirl in particular,  whereas it'll be a while yet before I sanction their access to the brutality of many of the Defenders stable. Not that I object to that direction myself, but it must restrict family viewing options for what are, at the end of the day, Marvel Superhero TV shows, and might be expected to perform as such.

How the Millarerse fits in there is anyone's guess...
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: Steve Green 30 November, 2018, 10:56:38 AM
Yeah, it's a bit odd with an explicit link to the MCU as well.

DD season 2 was the last one I watched - there's just too much of it out there for me to keep up.
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: TordelBack 30 November, 2018, 11:08:11 AM
That's the real problem for me - there's just too many episodes. Everytime I make a dent in one show, twice as many episodes seem to have appeared across the rest. Given the way they are released in a chunk, shorter more concentrated seasons would have suited me better.

With the DC shows appearing on telly, and being relatively kid-friendly, I have no problem dipping in and out as they cross my path of a weekend or evening. With the Marvel stuff I feel obliged to watch every season from the start, and then resent the commitment and time, and either stop or never start.

There's no comparison in quality between say Arrow and Daredevil, but I bet I've watched (or at least been in the same room as) more episodes of Arrow.
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: Jim_Campbell 30 November, 2018, 11:21:42 AM
Yeah, it's a bit odd with an explicit link to the MCU as well.

DD season 2 was the last one I watched - there's just too much of it out there for me to keep up.

Well, if you feel like catching up from there…

Luke Cage S1 — I liked this more than some, and it lays a lot of groundwork for the significantly-better S2.

Iron Fist S1 — There's a good series in here trying to get out, but it never manages it. There's a fight sequence a few episodes in where they suddenly go split-screen and you think it's going to embrace the 1970s kung-fu vibe it should have been going for all along… but it doesn't. You can skip this completely if you already know who Danny/Iron Fist is, since that's all you need for…

Defenders S1 — I thought this was solidly entertaining. Elektra is substantially less annoying than in Daredevil S2 (which I thought suffered from being great except for all the bits with Daredevil in) and it sets up DD S3.

The Punisher S1 — I thought this was great. Perhaps not if you're a big fan of the comics… I'm not, so I can't really say, but this doesn't pretend to have any easy answers to the questions it poses, especially about the damage done to men who serve, and even manages some sly humour on the subject of male friendship. Quite a lot of wince-inducing violence.

Jessica Jones S2 — This is a weird one. I didn't hate any of the individual episodes, but somehow this seemed completely unsatisfying as a series. I'd argue that this is skippable, too.

Luke Cage S2 — A step up from S1. Worth a watch. Also, Misty Knight.

Iron Fist S2 — Much more like it. It's still a little po-faced, and they could have dialled it up a lot more, but Danny is about 80% less annoying. Also, Misty Knight. :-)

Daredevil S3 — Now more or less the gold standard for these. Tight, muscular plotting. Good acting throughout and D'Onofrio's Kingpin is magnificent. Possibly docked a point for lack of Misty Knight.
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: dweezil2 30 November, 2018, 12:05:56 PM
Space left for a Judge Dredd TV show-result!!!  :D :thumbsup:
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: TordelBack 30 November, 2018, 12:07:42 PM
Useful stuff Jim, cheers!
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: Professor Bear 30 November, 2018, 12:09:01 PM
You'd imagine that the DC TV shows have a much wider potential audience - my own kids enjoy them, The Flash and Supergirl in particular,  whereas it'll be a while yet before I sanction their access to the brutality of many of the Defenders stable.

I've found the DC shows just as brutal, if not more so because every episode of these shows features brutal murders and assaults despite their garish trappings and simplistic moralising.  All these meaningless deaths achieve is the desensitisation of the viewers until it doesn't even register that Green Arrow's superpower is his ability to stab people and he's now murdered more people than Israel.
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: IndigoPrime 30 November, 2018, 12:25:57 PM
Horses for courses with MCU on Netflix. My take's rather different from Jim's:

LC S1: Plodding, but quite nice. Should have been done in half the episode count. Good characters. Quite dull.
IF S1: Almost unwatchable. Danny Rand and his Glowing Hand is a first-order arsehole. Much of the rest of the cast appear to have forgotten how to act. The plotting varies between abysmal and pointless.
Def S1: Surprisingly OK, albeit in part because it's short. The characters mostly work well together. Some unnecessary sexism lobbed at JJ.
Pun S1: Perhaps the biggest surprise. Frank's a fuckwit, but it works, and although they should have trimmed the season by at least three episodes, it's coherent and watchable. It does feel like they don't really need to do any more, mind.
JJ S2: A mite disappointing to me, compare to the superb first season. Still watchable though, and for me among the best of the Netflix series.
LC S2: We're about a third of the way through and it's pretty slow. Mrs IP isn't really interested after a domestic violence incident that, yes, shows the male lead again to be a massive fuckwit. It's like copy and paste sometimes…
IF S2: No way am I ever watching this.
DD S3: Ibid.
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: Bolt-01 30 November, 2018, 01:09:17 PM
IP; If you suffered through Iron fist S1, then you should make the effort for S2. After a slow start it really picks up and the final episode is, IMO, superb.

DDS3 is just superb from beginning to end. So much more focused.

As for the future- I'm hoping that the 3rd JJ season incorporates a resolution to Luke Cage S2- I don't like how Luke was left at the end of that show and would welcome a crossover that returned Luke to his state of grace position.

I think that Punisher S2 will be the finale for the shows, but Netflix have said these shows aren't going away.

I reckon Disney will fold them into its streaming alongside a lot of the ABC channel shows, maybe even absorbing the likes of the Gifted, Runaways and Cloak & Dagger.
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: IndigoPrime 30 November, 2018, 01:26:44 PM
I can't stomach any more Iron Fist. We very nearly abandoned S01 and I wish we had done that. It was just awful. From what I've read elsewhere, I know it ends well, but then given that it's not continuing, I'm not sure I want to put in the effort.

DD3: I hated the second season, bar the bits with Karen. Daredevil is just a prick. Mrs IP absolutely won't watch that, and I have very little time to watch TV on my own, so it's a no-go (or, at the very least, way down the queue for my telly time during exercise).

Netflix can say that it likes, but if Daredevil's cancelled, that's it. This strand is done. And given the horrible mess of ownership and the fact there's been no crossover of MCU and Netflix MCU, I won't be surprised if Disney just reboots the shots it thinks will work in a more conventional and family friendly set-up. (As in: don't expect to ever see JJ and Punisher again, and for some of the others to be heavily sanitised.)
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: broodblik 30 November, 2018, 02:01:40 PM
Punisher was great.

Yes, I am sure the whole superhero thing is going to implode on itself. I am already at this point that most of the Marvel movies I find like episodes of the A-team different villain different environment same basics story-line (and more of the same idiotic decisions made by the so-called heroes). It seams almost like these are the only movies that is making money so this is what we will get for the rest our lives. All originally is gone (thank you Disney for that one)
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: TordelBack 30 November, 2018, 03:12:43 PM
I know this is a very common refrain, but I really don't see the "sameiness" of MCU movies. Recently: Thor 3, Antman 2, Black Panther, GotG 2, Dr Strange, Spider-Man, Infinity War. With the possible exception of elements from GotG and BP repeating in Infinity War, that's a pretty diverse range of films. I think it's a balancing act between cohesiveness and individuality that Marvel are handling very well.
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: Professor Bear 30 November, 2018, 04:02:57 PM
People keep saying it because CinemaSins keeps saying it in their fine, fine videos full of considered observations.
I've heard suggestions that people dismiss the MCU movies as "all the same" because it's a way to establish cool kid hipster cred by not being impressed with things that other people like, but it would be unfair of me to (subtle pause) dismiss a wide range of contributions by homogenising them.

These shows have been explicitly part of the MCU, so any reboots would have to be done with legacy characters or be set in their own self-contained universe, though I don't see there being any hurry to reboot middling successes and outright failures just for the sake of having the IPs in circulation.  If Disney/Marvel are that worried about keeping the brands out there, they'll just revive them in a show like Super Hero Squad (or whatever that thing with the bobbleheaded characters was).
I would be pretty surprised if there isn't a massive loophole for quietly rebooting elements of the MCU at the end of Avengers 4, mind.
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: broodblik 30 November, 2018, 04:17:22 PM
As long as people continue watching the movies they will continue producing them in mass. I just want some really diversity in the cinemas (and not only superhero movies).  Yes, I do watch them all but my interest is starting the fade away.
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: The Legendary Shark 30 November, 2018, 04:25:44 PM

I don't expect deep emotional insights from the MCU, I expect to be transported and entertained - and these films and series do that in spades.

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: Dandontdare 23 June, 2019, 01:59:32 AM
Just finished S:3 of Jessica Jones. Well, what a change of tone, with this heartwarming feelgood tale of friendship and redemption.

Nah, only kidding. Life still sucks, everyone's a shit and even those who try to do good find only pain,misery and betrayal. I loved it, although the finale did include an entirely pointless Luke Cage cameo. Shame there'll be no more.

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: Mardroid 23 June, 2019, 07:19:08 PM
I liked it too. Ditto with Luke Cage, although it was nice to see him. I guess it did have a point in that it spurred her on to do the right thing, but she seemed poised to go that route anyway.

Concerning cancellation, I'd hoped to see a second series of Defenders at least. I suppose that could still happen but likely it would require subscribing to Disney's streaming platform to see it and other future Marvel stuff. To see first hand, of course. One could always wait for the blu-ray or digital downloads... of one wanted to keep it legal. (I do.)