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: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 22 May, 2015, 09:15:28 PM
At some point before the end of this year I'm going to embark on a prog slog (or possibly a back prog slog), but as it means I'll be devoting quite a chunk of my time to it, I want to make sure I start out doing it right.  A quick study of the experiences of others (on here and elsewhere) suggests that I can expect to spend one year per 500 progs.  As there will be 2,000 progs by the time I'm a quarter way into it, that's quite a time commitment.  But I don't want to stop at just the progs - I want to re-read my Megs as well.  And my Starlords.  I don't have Tornado yet (except for one single, solitary issue) so that might present a problem.  And not leaving out the Sci-Fi and Mega-Specials, Annuals and Yearbooks.  By the time I'm up to the mid-eighties the next volume of the Daily Dredds should also be out as well.

But there's just a few questions I'm trying to resolve in my mind.  In what order should I actually read them?  Cover-to-cover as they came out, living the thrill-powered life of someone just a little older than I am?  Or starting at prog one and reading the storylines as they start?  Should I stop the weeklies every time an annual or special is released?  What do I do when I get to the nineties - do I read the weekly Progs and the monthly (and sometimes fortnightly) Megs in between?

Any ideas?  From others who have taken this journey, or who might be about to?  Speaking of which - how many others are there out there who have enough Progs and Megs to join me?

As I intimated earlier - this isn't something I'm about to start straight away.  Due to various house moves  my collection is mostly complete but pretty fragmented, so the first order of the day is to get the thing in order (and then replace those precious Progs which have gone missing in the last three-and-a-bit decades).  I seem to remember there was quite a disastrous distribution problem around the time that film came out which could cause problems too...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 22 May, 2015, 10:06:19 PM
You should read one prog a week with a bag of sherbert lemons in your den behind the garage.

it's the only way to recreate that thrill power experience.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Albion 22 May, 2015, 10:54:08 PM
I'm currently on a Prog Slog.
I started by reading all the Megs first as I stopped getting it for awhile and wanted to see what I had missed. I then started on the Prog from Prog 1.
I am missing out some stories, such as Dredd, Ace Trucking and Robo-hunter as I have read them in the collected books fairly recently. My next Prog is 250. This was such a golden era for 2000AD that I am getting through them quite quickly as I am skipping the previously mentioned classic stories.
The real joy for me has been the Future Shocks. I had forgotten a few of them and there are some real gems in there.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 22 May, 2015, 11:32:01 PM
You should read one prog a week with a bag of sherbert lemons in your den behind the garage.

it's the only way to recreate that thrill power experience.

Nice idea - though for me I think Space Raiders would be more appropriate.  I can't even remember if I knew Brett did the packet designs at the time, but I cut out the comic strips on the back, oily and greasy as they were.  I wonder if I still have them lurking in a box somewhere?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 22 May, 2015, 11:39:04 PM
I'm currently on a Prog Slog.
I started by reading all the Megs first as I stopped getting it for awhile and wanted to see what I had missed. I then started on the Prog from Prog 1.
I am missing out some stories, such as Dredd, Ace Trucking and Robo-hunter as I have read them in the collected books fairly recently. My next Prog is 250. This was such a golden era for 2000AD that I am getting through them quite quickly as I am skipping the previously mentioned classic stories.
The real joy for me has been the Future Shocks. I had forgotten a few of them and there are some real gems in there.

How long ago did you start?  Thinking about it I think I should try to get the Tornado set before I get into it, it'll be pretty early into the slog.

I'm looking forward to a lot of the shorts (even if they're not good, they'll be over in 4-6 pages).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dark Jimbo 23 May, 2015, 12:02:03 AM
Nice idea - though for me I think Space Raiders would be more appropriate.  I can't even remember if I knew Brett did the packet designs at the time, but I cut out the comic strips on the back, oily and greasy as they were.

 :lol: Me too!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Colin YNWA 23 May, 2015, 07:17:59 AM
Yeah and you should have to fight with your brother about whose turn it is to read it first. If you don't have a brother just chose a random person in the street who looks about 3 1/2 years older then you.

Anyway its one of those things that you really have to decide for yourself (man maybe we can release a Prog Slog help guide like running a marathon guide or some such?). What is it your want to get from the experience. Last time I did a 'full' one I read a year of Dredd's then went back through that year reading individual stories as one, happily skipping stories here and there that didn't take my fancy. That's cos I just wanted to read the stories I hadn't read for years.

On my 'To Read' Spreadsheet about 1 year or more away I've put in re-read in but this time I'm going to read a year of Progs in a month (ish) have about 4 slots in my reading list 'section', 2 new material, 2 re-read if that makes sense, tends to take me a month to get through one of those, though with a year of progs in each section might take longer... anyway I digress that one I'm kinda thinking I'll be reading each prog as a whole, cos I want to know how each Prog read. I'd stick the relevent years annuals and specials at the end of the relevent year I'd guess but have over thought it.

I think some people read a Prog a day which always seemed a nice way to do it, but not sure I have the patience or time, I'd miss some etc etc.

Its all about what you want from the experience I'd say, why you doing it. Main thing of course is you'll have a bloody good time and remember to keep us informed!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Jock Savage 23 May, 2015, 08:42:56 AM
In what order should I actually read them?  Cover-to-cover as they came out?

I would say so. That way you get an impression of the history of the comic as well as the development of the strips themselves.

Throwing in annuals and specials sounds like a great way of adding a bit of variety, but I'm not sure the complicated business of coordinating the Megazine's erratic publishing schedule with the prog is worth the bother. There are 2 or 3 epics where the Dredd strips in both comics hook up, but for the rest of the 25 years they're just 2 comics from the same publisher.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dash Decent 23 May, 2015, 10:52:27 AM
At some point before the end of this year I'm going to embark on a prog slog (or possibly a back prog slog), but as it means I'll be devoting quite a chunk of my time to it, I want to make sure I start out doing it right.

Are you going to keep a prog slog blog too Sheridan, or are you rereading them just for pleasure?

I like the idea of reading Tornado or some other contemporaneous titles along with the weekly prog to get a sense of the past.  Nice one!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 23 May, 2015, 01:07:32 PM
Yeah and you should have to fight with your brother about whose turn it is to read it first. If you don't have a brother just chose a random person in the street who looks about 3 1/2 years older then you.

Anyway its one of those things that you really have to decide for yourself (man maybe we can release a Prog Slog help guide like running a marathon guide or some such?). What is it your want to get from the experience. Last time I did a 'full' one I read a year of Dredd's then went back through that year reading individual stories as one, happily skipping stories here and there that didn't take my fancy. That's cos I just wanted to read the stories I hadn't read for years.

On my 'To Read' Spreadsheet about 1 year or more away I've put in re-read in but this time I'm going to read a year of Progs in a month (ish) have about 4 slots in my reading list 'section', 2 new material, 2 re-read if that makes sense, tends to take me a month to get through one of those, though with a year of progs in each section might take longer... anyway I digress that one I'm kinda thinking I'll be reading each prog as a whole, cos I want to know how each Prog read. I'd stick the relevent years annuals and specials at the end of the relevent year I'd guess but have over thought it.

I think some people read a Prog a day which always seemed a nice way to do it, but not sure I have the patience or time, I'd miss some etc etc.

Its all about what you want from the experience I'd say, why you doing it. Main thing of course is you'll have a bloody good time and remember to keep us informed!
Here's a few reasons I have for wanting to re-read the lot:
I'm thinking at the moment that I'll try to read them in the order they came out, including the erratic publishing schedule of the Meg (though excepting the Daily Dredds, as reading one weekly and five dailies in between progs would be a bit overcomplicated...)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 23 May, 2015, 01:10:50 PM
At some point before the end of this year I'm going to embark on a prog slog (or possibly a back prog slog), but as it means I'll be devoting quite a chunk of my time to it, I want to make sure I start out doing it right.

Are you going to keep a prog slog blog too Sheridan, or are you rereading them just for pleasure?

I like the idea of reading Tornado or some other contemporaneous titles along with the weekly prog to get a sense of the past.  Nice one!
I'm thinking of some sort of blog - trying to think of some sort of angle that others haven't covered before (though if I can't , I'll probably just do it anyway).  First things first - got to come up with a name for it...  Both ideas so far featuring travelling / journeying terms:
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Buttonman 23 May, 2015, 01:18:32 PM
Prog Party? Issue Endeavour? Comic Quest?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Fungus 23 May, 2015, 01:23:23 PM
Prog Peregrination
Box of Progs
Prog Blog
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 23 May, 2015, 01:43:56 PM
In what order should I actually read them?  Cover-to-cover as they came out?

I would say so. That way you get an impression of the history of the comic as well as the development of the strips themselves.

Throwing in annuals and specials sounds like a great way of adding a bit of variety, but I'm not sure the complicated business of coordinating the Megazine's erratic publishing schedule with the prog is worth the bother. There are 2 or 3 epics where the Dredd strips in both comics hook up, but for the rest of the 25 years they're just 2 comics from the same publisher.

I've also just thought that the Virgin and Abaddon shall need to fit in somewhere.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Buttonman 23 May, 2015, 01:44:08 PM
Prog Blog

This could reignite the old is it pronounced 'Pr-oag' or 'Pr-og'. I'm a 'Pr-oag' person as it is short for 'programme'.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Fungus 23 May, 2015, 02:16:14 PM
Aware of this schism (hm, Skizzm?)... For the record, my progs rhyme with frogs. Always been aware it's shortened from 'programme' and still preferred 'prawg', see absolutely no problem with this and it just sounds better. In this bonkers-future world of podcasts, thrillcasts, etc. I detect 'prawgs' might be in the majority? But obviously I do hear both. Was it ever 'resolved' ?

"Prog Bloag" then  ?  :) That is kind of pleasing...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 23 May, 2015, 02:16:59 PM
Prog Blog

This could reignite the old is it pronounced 'Pr-oag' or 'Pr-og'. I'm a 'Pr-oag' person as I'm wrong

FTFY
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Albion 23 May, 2015, 02:37:41 PM
I'm not sure when I started my slog.
The amount of Progs I get through in a week varies. I read the issues before the Star Lord merger some time ago and then started from Prog 86 fairly recently.

Another fun part of it is recognising the names of some of the letter writers and fan artists who I now know or have gone on to work for Tharg.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Colin YNWA 23 May, 2015, 05:00:25 PM
Another fun part of it is recognising the names of some of the letter writers and fan artists who I now know or have gone on to work for Tharg.

Yeah it certainly is. It for this reason and ones like it that I'll always prefer to have the original Progs (surely its always as in rhymes with frogs as the alternatiave are just uck! Even if it is short for Programme Pr-oags is just horrible!) over neat and easy trade collections. Another thing I love is the way the ads in the Progs really help give the stories a context about the time and environment they were created in.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Buttonman 23 May, 2015, 06:08:38 PM
This fine thread (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,36119.0.html) (along with 'Letters to the Green Dude') contains of of the art and letters that could be scraped together for future creators - might spoil the fun of stumbling across them though!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 27 May, 2015, 09:05:07 PM
Well, the first bit was surprisingly easy - I now possess a set of 22 Tornado comics.

I could do with a checklist, with dates easily accessible and sortable. 

While Barney (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=collector&page=checklist) and Termight (http://www.2000ad.nu/termight/collecting.html) are certainly going to come in handy, they're not quite what I'm looking for...

If there isn't already a Google Spreadsheet out there then I shall have to create one (and then share it, naturally).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dash Decent 30 May, 2015, 04:08:57 AM
I'm thinking of some sort of blog - trying to think of some sort of angle that others haven't covered before (though if I can't , I'll probably just do it anyway).  First things first - got to come up with a name for it... 

Strontium Blog
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: judda fett 30 May, 2015, 07:31:36 AM
'Star-lag and the Torn-A-holes of 2000 Maniacs'

Nice and snappy like.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: judda fett 30 May, 2015, 07:56:23 AM
... Or maybe just '2000 Maniacs'

Prog Busters
Proglodyte Review
Backprogs and Re-joggin' (oof)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: judda fett 30 May, 2015, 08:09:15 AM
Re-Prog Man
Prog, All Bar None

I'm also throwing in a free blog title for anyone wishing to start a blog dedicated to the Dark Knight... 'Cowl Movements'.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 30 May, 2015, 11:04:29 PM
I've now started a blog (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/05/30/17/) (title possibly subject to change).

As I'm going along, I'll be updating the Wikia (http://2000ad.wikia.com) for all things 2000AD (one of three now, though the other two are centred on Dredd alone).  To this end I've put together a quick spreadsheet of the tales which were printed in Tornado (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Nu-nMEA4j_rsX9sIl23HzkIoh6E0P7jHY3_q3l9_NMg/edit?usp=sharing)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 12 September, 2015, 02:21:13 PM
Not got much on this weekend, weather lately has got a bit cold, so I'm going to start today (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/starting-today/%20start%20today).

Still not entirely sure where my Star Lords are, but I've got almost a year's worth of progs, the summer supercomic and the first annuals lined up.
I’m setting myself a few rules:

That’s about it – time to make myself a coffee and get started – I won’t go into the garden to play with the space spinner though.  Apart from anything else, I don’t think the cat would play along (if only I had a dog!)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 12 September, 2015, 04:24:47 PM
Prog 1 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/prog-1/) - more a commentary than a review - I'm sure there's nothing in there that you lot don't already know
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: TordelBack 12 September, 2015, 06:29:41 PM
Well I didn't realise 'Drokk!' originated in Dan Dare, or that it was in Prog 1, so you're off to a good start! Any Betelgeusian expressions other than Galactic Groats?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 12 September, 2015, 08:55:59 PM
Well I didn't realise 'Drokk!' originated in Dan Dare, or that it was in Prog 1, so you're off to a good start! Any Betelgeusian expressions other than Galactic Groats?

Good point - there's no Borag Thungg, but he does sign off with a Splundig Vur Thrigg!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 12 September, 2015, 10:26:51 PM
The Nerve Centre makes it's first appearance in Prog 2 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/prog-2/).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 13 September, 2015, 12:41:53 AM
Onwards, to Prog 3 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/prog-3-shoot-me-boss-dont-let-it-eat-me-alive/), and the Belardinelli droid's first two-story prog (not that there are many - I think there's one coming up where he draws the Dredd as well as Dare).

p.s. we also get our first glimpse of what working conditions are like in the Command Module.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 13 September, 2015, 02:52:22 AM
Up to Prog 4 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/13/prog-4-logans-force-field-has-failed/) and Kevin O'Neill's first bona fide comics work in the Galaxy's Greatest (the background of one panel in the Dredd Brotherhood of Darkness story, and a full-page comic strip / advert for Flesh products).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Spikes 13 September, 2015, 10:52:47 AM
O'Neill redrew/altered some of McMahon's work? Interesting. Which panel was that Sheridan?

(And didn't Kevin draw the little Tharg head on the cover of Prog 1?)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 13 September, 2015, 02:18:03 PM
O'Neill redrew/altered some of McMahon's work? Interesting. Which panel was that Sheridan?

(And didn't Kevin draw the little Tharg head on the cover of Prog 1?)
I think he did draw that Tharg, but could stand to be corrected.

Bottom right panel of the third page - that's definitely an early O'Neill skull!  Looks like he just filled in what would otherwise be a blank background.

(http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkly2wQzbw1qi8laso1_500.jpg)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Spikes 13 September, 2015, 07:16:28 PM
Cheers for that.
I did have a look-see before your reply, to see if I could spot the panel in question, and the one you've mention was the one that did catch my eye. So, was this stated for sure, or is this something you have felt was always the case?
Certainly over the years, artwork was altered a good few times before going to print.

But a great excuse to re-read that particular episode!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 13 September, 2015, 08:11:03 PM
Cheers for that.
I did have a look-see before your reply, to see if I could spot the panel in question, and the one you've mention was the one that did catch my eye. So, was this stated for sure, or is this something you have felt was always the case?
Certainly over the years, artwork was altered a good few times before going to print.

But a great excuse to re-read that particular episode!

I don't remember noticing it myself, but can't work out where I read about it.  In the course of my failed research I did just find out that Kev had to bodge some Volg outriders into an Invasion! strip, because to the Argentinian artist who originally drew them an outrider is a guy on a horse.  That's something to look out for (assuming I haven't already missed it).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 13 September, 2015, 10:07:59 PM
Oops - posted the blogpost a few hours ago but completely forgot to update here, Dredd made the cover (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/13/prog-5-dredds-attacking-the-cyborg/) and we John Cooper joins the roster of art droids.

: Re: how to do a prog slog
: glassstanley 14 September, 2015, 08:05:54 AM
Up to Prog 4 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/13/prog-4-logans-force-field-has-failed/) and Kevin O'Neill's first bona fide comics work in the Galaxy's Greatest (the background of one panel in the Dredd Brotherhood of Darkness story, and a full-page comic strip / advert for Flesh products).

In Prog 1's episode of Flesh, final page, final panel, the Trans Time base has always looked like O'Neill's work to me.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 14 September, 2015, 08:10:51 AM
Is that Satanus in Prog 6 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/14/prog-6-the-nazis-have-come-back-from-the-dead/)?  I'll wait until the Cursed Earth, then go back and compare scenes...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: AlexF 15 September, 2015, 01:52:50 PM
Your ambition on covering EVERYTHING is to be greatly admired! Good luck to you.

As you say, it's tough to find new things to say about the very early Progs that hasn't been said before, but so far so good!
: Re: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dominic O'Rourke 15 September, 2015, 03:35:14 PM
I'm up to prog 1234 on my slog.

There was an awful lull from around 750 onwards, but I pulled through.

I started off trying to read it all in order, but after the dune shark Dredd crossover, I've taken to reading a year of the prog and a year of the Meg.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 15 September, 2015, 11:46:39 PM
Your ambition on covering EVERYTHING is to be greatly admired! Good luck to you.

As you say, it's tough to find new things to say about the very early Progs that hasn't been said before, but so far so good!
Thanks!  I probably won't include the phone cards ('coz I don't have them), but will include the movies - not sure what I'll do about the audio plays and books yet, but I'll fit 'em in somehow.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 17 September, 2015, 10:56:30 PM
Galactic Greetings, or as aliens say, Borag Thungg! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/prog-7-the-biogs-from-planet-zircon-are-on-the-rampage-for-their-main-fuel-supply-earthmen/) - yep, while Splundig Vur Thrigg was with us from the beginning, Prog 7 saw the first use of Tharg's now-familiar greeting.  Coincidentally, given recent previews, it also sees the first appearance of the Statue of Judgement too.  In later years it'll be surrounded by a sea of concrete, but in 2099 at least it still has some of Upper New York Bay behind it.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 17 September, 2015, 10:58:05 PM
In Prog 1's episode of Flesh, final page, final panel, the Trans Time base has always looked like O'Neill's work to me.

That one has crossed my mind in the past too, but it's not quite distinctive enough to be conclusive for me (probably is our Kev though).
: Re: Re: how to do a prog slog
: glassstanley 18 September, 2015, 07:06:40 PM
Your ambition on covering EVERYTHING is to be greatly admired! Good luck to you.

As you say, it's tough to find new things to say about the very early Progs that hasn't been said before, but so far so good!
Thanks!  I probably won't include the phone cards ('coz I don't have them), but will include the movies - not sure what I'll do about the audio plays and books yet, but I'll fit 'em in somehow.

The first series of phone cards can be found on the fantastic Cellar of Dredd site. Virgin novels are easy to place as the Meg printed a Prelude chapter for each; audios and the Black Flame novels have publication dates on Amazon. I spent a couple of years slowly compiling a publication order list of all Dredd World stories. Most of it is fairly easy to place..
: Re: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 18 September, 2015, 07:36:32 PM
Your ambition on covering EVERYTHING is to be greatly admired! Good luck to you.

As you say, it's tough to find new things to say about the very early Progs that hasn't been said before, but so far so good!
Thanks!  I probably won't include the phone cards ('coz I don't have them), but will include the movies - not sure what I'll do about the audio plays and books yet, but I'll fit 'em in somehow.

The first series of phone cards can be found on the fantastic Cellar of Dredd site. Virgin novels are easy to place as the Meg printed a Prelude chapter for each; audios and the Black Flame novels have publication dates on Amazon. I spent a couple of years slowly compiling a publication order list of all Dredd World stories. Most of it is fairly easy to place..
I got all the Virgin novels as they were coming out.  Do you still have that publication order list?
: Re: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 19 September, 2015, 10:46:06 PM
Thanks!  I probably won't include the phone cards ('coz I don't have them), but will include the movies - not sure what I'll do about the audio plays and books yet, but I'll fit 'em in somehow.
The first series of phone cards can be found on the fantastic Cellar of Dredd site.

I thought I'd seen pictures of some of them before, and I knew John had them all so that must have been where I saw them.   Thanks for the reminder!

p.s. I've had a busy Saturday, but finally found time to read Prog 8 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/19/prog-8-8-full-colour-monster-pix/), which is now up.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 20 September, 2015, 12:51:06 PM
Roll on Sunday, and Prog 9 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/20/prog-9-goodbye-giant-the-mad-avenger-has-you-in-his-sights/) - the Harlem Heroes make the cover (for the only time), the word 'prog' is used and Dredd uses his respirator.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 20 September, 2015, 04:33:50 PM
Second post today and it turns out I have a bit more to say about Prog 10: "The Robot's Revolt has begun - all humans must die!" (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/20/2000ad-prog-10-the-robots-revolt-has-begun-all-humans-must-die/).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 21 September, 2015, 01:19:54 AM
Last post of this weekend takes me up to Prog 11: Follow Me into the Sun... you will Share the Death of a Martian Warrior! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/21/2000ad-prog-11-follow-me-into-the-sun-you-will-share-the-death-of-a-martian-warrior/) (Bolland's first appearance, the rules to the Flesh game and Dredd's first resignation of many).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: TordelBack 21 September, 2015, 02:55:34 PM
These are great reading, keep it up!  I'd no idea Tharg sheds his skin (although it explains a lot).  Is it really PVC, and not polystyrene,that Tharg eats originally? The kinky green divil!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dash Decent 21 September, 2015, 11:17:46 PM
There's a bit in the very early progs - the letters page in prog 8, or something like that - where Tharg describes Betelguesian females as being very alien looking, with tentacles etc.  Of course, when one finally shows up in the prog (Marg?) she's just a female version of Tharg.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 27 September, 2015, 11:35:59 PM
There's a bit in the very early progs - the letters page in prog 8, or something like that - where Tharg describes Betelguesian females as being very alien looking, with tentacles etc.  Of course, when one finally shows up in the prog (Marg?) she's just a female version of Tharg.
I don't think I've come across that bit yet, and I'm up to Prog 12, as of yesterday (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/26/2000ad-prog-12-the-return-of-mekon/).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 28 September, 2015, 12:41:29 AM
Hot on the tail of Prog 12 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/26/2000ad-prog-12-the-return-of-mekon/) comes Prog 13 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/27/2000ad-prog-13-from-out-of-my-alien-head-i-tharg-bring-you-the-future/) (the first prog to be called a prog instead of a programme).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: glassstanley 29 September, 2015, 12:31:07 PM
FYI, Inferno is on the cover of Prog 68.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 05 October, 2015, 01:32:05 AM
I'm currently on a Prog Slog.

My next Prog is 250. This was such a golden era for 2000AD that I am getting through them quite quickly as I am skipping the previously mentioned classic stories.
The real joy for me has been the Future Shocks. I had forgotten a few of them and there are some real gems in there.

Which prog are you up to now?  After a week since the last one (my self-imposed deadline) I'm up to Prog 14 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/10/05/2000ad-prog-14-the-dinosaurs-have-got-us-the-pteranodons-have-got-us-and-now-the-spiders-have-got-us/).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Albion 05 October, 2015, 07:57:05 AM
I'm on Prog 615. There's a dip in quality now.
The era of Zippy Couriers, Night Zero and Swifty"s Return (Sooner or Later).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 06 October, 2015, 04:11:33 PM
interesting note on the "furry tyrannosaurs" from prog 11:

In the final talk session of the entire meeting, Jean Le Loeuff looked at Mathurin Meheut’s artwork (in 1943 Meheut produced a fairly surreal painting titled Les Diplodocus), and Allison Ksiazkiewicz spoke about… about.. well, I’m not entirely sure, but it was something to do with how viewers interpret the gaze of ancient animals as depicted in artwork. And, in the very last talk of the conference, Jeff Liston provided an outstanding overview of how the dinosaur renaissance was depicted in the comics and books of the 1970s. A 1977 story from 2000 A.D., ‘Flesh’, has Late Cretaceous theropods ganging up on villainous humans who have come back in time to harvest herbivorous dinosaurs. Led by the matriarchal tyrannosaur Old One Eye, a coalition of tyrannosaurs and spinosaurs co-operated: where else could you hear the line ‘From the north came the furry tyrannosaurs’? Important is that the story incorporated Deinonychus. So agile, furry dinosaurs had infiltrated popular culture pretty soon after Bakker’s early articles (Bakker 1968, 1971, 1972, 1975).

From: http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2008/05/13/dahp-part-ii/ (http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2008/05/13/dahp-part-ii/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: amines2058 06 October, 2015, 04:17:35 PM
interesting note on the "furry tyrannosaurs" from prog 11:

In the final talk session of the entire meeting, Jean Le Loeuff looked at Mathurin Meheut’s artwork (in 1943 Meheut produced a fairly surreal painting titled Les Diplodocus), and Allison Ksiazkiewicz spoke about… about.. well, I’m not entirely sure, but it was something to do with how viewers interpret the gaze of ancient animals as depicted in artwork. And, in the very last talk of the conference, Jeff Liston provided an outstanding overview of how the dinosaur renaissance was depicted in the comics and books of the 1970s. A 1977 story from 2000 A.D., ‘Flesh’, has Late Cretaceous theropods ganging up on villainous humans who have come back in time to harvest herbivorous dinosaurs. Led by the matriarchal tyrannosaur Old One Eye, a coalition of tyrannosaurs and spinosaurs co-operated: where else could you hear the line ‘From the north came the furry tyrannosaurs’? Important is that the story incorporated Deinonychus. So agile, furry dinosaurs had infiltrated popular culture pretty soon after Bakker’s early articles (Bakker 1968, 1971, 1972, 1975).

From: http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2008/05/13/dahp-part-ii/ (http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2008/05/13/dahp-part-ii/)

Hmmm... One for the swipe file???
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 06 October, 2015, 04:28:25 PM
it's not a swipe - just pointing out that Pat Mills was bang up to date with current dino-research when he wrote Flesh!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Albion 07 October, 2015, 10:49:54 PM
I've just read Prog 622. Not much variety of writers in this one!

Two stories by Alan Grant. Dredd and Anderson.
Three by Hilary Robinson. Zippy Couriers, Medivac 318 and a Future Shock.
A Daily Star Dredd by Grant and Wagner.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 12 October, 2015, 04:28:27 AM
I've just read Prog 622. Not much variety of writers in this one!

Two stories by Alan Grant. Dredd and Anderson.
Three by Hilary Robinson. Zippy Couriers, Medivac 318 and a Future Shock.
A Daily Star Dredd by Grant and Wagner.

I saw a kitten on someone's Tshirt the other day which made me think of Zippy Couriers (it was in the same style, but I don't think it was directly related).

I set myself an absolute minimum limit of one prog a week (apart from the latest, that is) and am pushing the definition this week, though I haven't gone to sleep yet, so this still counts as Sunday, right?

Prog 15: Mach One Plus One (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/10/12/2000ad-prog-15-mach-one-plus-one/)

I now have a few days off work so should be able to catch up...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Albion 12 October, 2015, 08:19:35 AM
I'm on a minimum of one Prog a day. Sometimes it can be up to ten, if I'm doing a long printing job at work.  :D
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 14 October, 2015, 01:05:02 AM
Savage goes face-to-face against an Australian bounty hunter who uses the word 'sport' in two thirds of his sentences while Probe gets to wipe out a "nest of slant-eyed vipers".  Casual racism was more socially acceptable in the seventies you say?  I'd never have guessed!  Prog 16: We are Being Attacked by the Capitol Building (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/10/13/2000ad-prog-16-flight-z-40-location-devils-triangle-amber-alert-we-are-being-attacked-by-the-capitol-building/).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: TordelBack 14 October, 2015, 04:40:55 AM
We get a second Dan Dare centrespread in portrait orientation next – I don’t remember there being another one until the Torque-Armada spread in 1983, and I’m pretty sure there won’t be any more after that.

Does the City of the Damned 'Next Prog' count? (Somewhere in the 390s).And am I misremembering, or did Mad George not get the Torque-Armada treatment first? Or was that technically a Star Scan? (Somewhere in the 130-150 range?).

Really enjoying the blog, Sheridan - keep at it!

: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 14 October, 2015, 07:56:23 AM
We get a second Dan Dare centrespread in portrait orientation next – I don’t remember there being another one until the Torque-Armada spread in 1983, and I’m pretty sure there won’t be any more after that.

Does the City of the Damned 'Next Prog' count? (Somewhere in the 390s).And am I misremembering, or did Mad George not get the Torque-Armada treatment first? Or was that technically a Star Scan? (Somewhere in the 130-150 range?).

Really enjoying the blog, Sheridan - keep at it!

Thanks - and good catch on both counts, just checked, there is the Mad George / ABC Warriors reporting for duty portrait.  I reckon we're well overdue for another centrespread (though good luck to anybody rotating the magazine on public transport...)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 15 October, 2015, 01:44:07 AM
Prog 17 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/10/15/2000ad-prog-17-oh-no-johnson-mills-and-shepherd-have-got-mixed-up-with-a-tyrannosaur-in-the-time-machine/) - the one with a dinosaur with three (human) heads on the cover.  Turns out that this is my favourite episode of Judge Dredd so far in the Back Prog Hack - love the styling of the back of the Lawmaster, Gibson's views of the city, Texas City gets a mention on the side of an oil tanker and more.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 19 October, 2015, 05:25:51 PM
Ma Mahaffy (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/10/19/2000ad-prog-18-by-stomm-now-theyre-even-growing-law-breakers-in-mega-city-1/) - the cover by Don Lawrence, which was famously bodged to replace Ma with Dredd...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 01 November, 2015, 10:46:12 PM
It's been a while, hopefully I'll speed up a bit (I've been updating a wiki (http://2000ad.wikia.com/) while I've been going along, which hasn't helped the frequency of my posts).  Prog 19 - Supercover No 1, A Robot's Best Friend... (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/11/01/2000ad-prog-19-supercover-1-a-robots-best-friend/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 03 January, 2016, 03:50:49 AM
After taking November out to do NaNoWriMo, and then finding it difficult to get back into the swing of things with the 2000AD Summer Special Supercomic (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2016/01/03/2000ad-summer-special-supercomic/) I've finally managed to make my way though and update the blog.  I'm hoping Prog 20 won't take so long!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 28 March, 2016, 04:34:16 AM
Prog 20 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2016/03/28/2000ad-prog-20-supercover-2-the-man-who-stole-the-stars/) - will it take me less than three months to put up the next one?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 17 October, 2016, 11:35:52 PM
Prog 20 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2016/03/28/2000ad-prog-20-supercover-2-the-man-who-stole-the-stars/) - will it take me less than three months to put up the next one?

...and the answer to that is yes, it took substantially more than three months!  I usually make some sort of birthday resolution each year, so I think this year's will be to update more regularly!  Enough chat - slog entry for Prog 21 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2016/10/17/2000ad-prog-21-supercover-3-emergency-the-alien-machine-is-about-to-destroy-our-world/).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 20 October, 2016, 12:39:34 AM
Hot on the heels of that one - here's Prog 22: Mutant on the Metro! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2016/10/19/2000ad-prog-22-supercover-4-mutant-on-the-metro/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Albion 20 October, 2016, 08:15:39 AM
My next Prog is 1055.
The quality is improving again now I'm in the late 1990's with early episodes of Sinister Dexter and Nikolai Dante.
I'd forgotten there were so many topless women in I Was A Teenage Tax Consultant! Saucy Tharg.  :o
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: AlexF 20 October, 2016, 03:55:44 PM
Yes, along with the various efforts cataloguing female Judges, BAME characters and smiling Dredds, someone somewhere is compiling a list of all panels featuring nudity. I'm genuinely curious to know if the Prog displays more naked boobs or dangling wangs; I reckon it's a close thing.

And no, I'm not tackling this one!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 20 October, 2016, 05:01:06 PM
Yes, along with the various efforts cataloguing female Judges, BAME characters and smiling Dredds, someone somewhere is compiling a list of all panels featuring nudity. I'm genuinely curious to know if the Prog displays more naked boobs or dangling wangs; I reckon it's a close thing.

And no, I'm not tackling this one!

"tackle" *hur-hur* shut up beavis :)

p.s. don't miss out Probe's bottom in the very first prog ;)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Albion 20 October, 2016, 06:07:41 PM
.....Probe's bottom......
:o

*hur-hur* shut up beavis
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 21 October, 2016, 09:42:00 PM
After that juvenile interlude (I'm sure there'll be more) it's back to the slog, with Prog 23: The Plague from Pluto! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2016/10/21/2000ad-prog-23the-plague-from-pluto/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: ZenArcade 22 October, 2016, 10:20:51 AM
Ok, 3 progs per day. I'm starting on 1st Nov. Z
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 23 October, 2016, 11:48:42 PM
Yes, along with the various efforts cataloguing female Judges, BAME characters and smiling Dredds, someone somewhere is compiling a list of all panels featuring nudity. I'm genuinely curious to know if the Prog displays more naked boobs or dangling wangs; I reckon it's a close thing.

And no, I'm not tackling this one!
It's not full nudity, but Prog 24 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2016/10/23/prog-24-get-a-load-of-this-ancient-water-god-drawing/) features Shako tearing the clothes off of a trooper sent to kill him one at a time until he's in his underwear.  Other than that, Kev O'Neill starts to make an impact (that you can see on the page, that is).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 23 October, 2016, 11:51:16 PM
Ok, 3 progs per day. I'm starting on 1st Nov. Z
Good luck, ZenArcade!  My tip - if you want to keep on schedule, don't update blogs and wikis as you go along!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: ZenArcade 24 October, 2016, 05:31:22 PM
Any advice much appreciated Sheridan. Z
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 28 October, 2016, 04:30:17 AM
I'm getting pretty close to my first annual - not sure exactly which progs it will fall between, but it's a few weeks off yet.  In the meantime: Prog 25: Mega-City... Murder by Meteor! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2016/10/28/prog-25-mega-city-murder-by-meteor/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 30 October, 2016, 09:22:24 AM
Mega-City One takes revenge (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2016/10/30/prog-26-greetings-earthmen-we-are-the-first-of-the-satan-horde/) in a pretty unsatisfactory way...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 10 February, 2017, 08:40:57 PM
Ok, 3 progs per day. I'm starting on 1st Nov. Z
Did you get started?  And keep it up?

Spurred on by the upcoming celebrations, I've taken my latest out of drafts and published it.

Prog 27 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2017/02/10/prog-27-have-made-contact-with-aliens-facial-area-composition-flesh-conclusion-edible/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 14 May, 2019, 12:51:04 AM
How not to do a prog slog!  I came to the first annual, and suddenly found almost anything else at all to do that was more interesting.  Can I go back to the weekly progs now? (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/05/13/2000-a-d-annual-1978/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: AlexF 14 May, 2019, 03:11:19 PM
I have a strong suspicion that the way to do a Prog Slog is NOT to read the Annuals! And maybe not the Specials, either - although there are bound to be some exceptions at some point, where there are key chapters in the sagas of Rogue Trooper and Tyranny Rex to name two examples.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 14 May, 2019, 04:32:18 PM
I have a strong suspicion that the way to do a Prog Slog is NOT to read the Annuals! And maybe not the Specials, either - although there are bound to be some exceptions at some point, where there are key chapters in the sagas of Rogue Trooper and Tyranny Rex to name two examples.

I think the Judge Dredd annuals are all pretty good, and the 2000AD ones from 1985 onwards*, it's just everything prior to those that will drag...


* the one's I grew up with!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 24 May, 2019, 10:54:30 PM
You wait ages for a prog slog post, then two come along at once (well, within a week of each other).

Prog 28: Terror at 20,000 Fathoms! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/05/24/prog-28-terror-at-20000-fathoms/).  Better get started on the next one, or it'll be another two years...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 24 May, 2019, 11:27:39 PM
I enjoyed that, but c'mon mate, pick up the pace - my great-grandchildren will be reading witty reviews of Necropolis at this rate!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 25 May, 2019, 12:25:34 AM
I enjoyed that, but c'mon mate, pick up the pace - my great-grandchildren will be reading witty reviews of Necropolis at this rate!

I should add that I'm also updating the 2000ADopedia (https://2000ad.fandom.com/wiki/2000ADopedia) while I'm going along, and finding out just how many characters called George (https://2000ad.fandom.com/wiki/George), Charlie (https://2000ad.fandom.com/wiki/Charlie), Alf (https://2000ad.fandom.com/wiki/Alf), Karl (https://2000ad.fandom.com/wiki/Karl) and Whitey (http://) there are.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 25 May, 2019, 12:29:45 AM
I enjoyed that, but c'mon mate, pick up the pace - my great-grandchildren will be reading witty reviews of Necropolis at this rate!

Not that any of that's an excuse - at my current rate around 70 or 80 progs, megs, specials and books have been released in the time it took me to cover the first annual and a prog.  Even if Rebellion stopped publishing tomorrow, it'd be one or two geological epochs until I caught up...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 25 May, 2019, 10:22:33 PM
And another - Prog 30: Destroy! Destroy! Destroy! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/05/25/prog-29-destroy-destroy-destroy/) (the Supercover Saga story all about a giant robot designed to kill pigeons*).


*it was the seventies...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 27 May, 2019, 06:26:34 PM
I would have posted this yesterday, but I had a birthday party to go to.

Prog 30 - the one with the Return of Rico! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/05/27/prog-30-time-travellers-from-titan/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 27 May, 2019, 09:15:32 PM
I'm going to experiment on this one - to avoid posting two blogposts on the same day, I've scheduled the following to be published on wordpress tomorrow at 07:30 - let's see how it works!

Prog 31: Alert! Alert! Emergency touchdown - Pad 5, get the clean-up crew, fast! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/05/28/prog-31-alert-alert-emergency-touchdown-pad-5-get-the-clean-up-crew-fast).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 27 May, 2019, 10:36:10 PM
I'm going to experiment on this one - to avoid posting two blogposts on the same day, I've scheduled the following to be published on wordpress tomorrow at 07:30 - let's see how it works!

Wordpress seems to have timezone problems - it knows I'm in London but doesn't understand how British Summer Time works, so it may go live at 08:30 instead of 07:30...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Tjm86 28 May, 2019, 02:39:06 PM

Wordpress seems to have timezone problems - it knows I'm in London but doesn't understand how British Summer Time works, so it may go live at 08:30 instead of 07:30...

Not a major problem, most of my year 9 class have a similar problem with time full stop, never mind BST ...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 28 May, 2019, 09:13:26 PM

Wordpress seems to have timezone problems - it knows I'm in London but doesn't understand how British Summer Time works, so it may go live at 08:30 instead of 07:30...

Not a major problem, most of my year 9 class have a similar problem with time full stop, never mind BST ...

I have the same problem too - I may physically be present at work, but until I've had that first cup of the day my mind takes a while to catch up ;)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 29 May, 2019, 01:46:30 AM
Glad you're back at it! I had initially thought to update the wiki as well as the start of Spinner, but early on I learned about Barney so I didn't go forward with it. You're doing good work!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 29 May, 2019, 11:27:36 AM
Glad you're back at it! I had initially thought to update the wiki as well as the start of Spinner, but early on I learned about Barney so I didn't go forward with it. You're doing good work!

Thanks!

I must confess that I've been listening to your early podcasts (covering the same annual and progs) to help give me inspiration, hence a link regarding the Star Warriors in today's post:

Prog 32: You will not defeat me, human! The Silver Cyborg shall destroy you and your planet! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/05/29/prog-32-you-will-not-defeat-me-human-the-silver-cyborg-shall-destroy-you-and-your-planet/)

Everything Comes Back to 2000AD started doing podcasts about early progs as well, though I'm not sure they made it as far as 32...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 30 May, 2019, 05:14:39 PM
Prog 33: Dangerous Android at Large (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/05/30/prog-33-dangerous-android-at-large/)

How long will I be able to keep this up daily?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 31 May, 2019, 11:18:55 AM
Prog 34: The Day the Earth Burned (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/05/31/prog-34the-day-the-earth-burned/).

The day in question was in 2010.  Mention is made in Judge Dredd about the how Weather Control hasn't been set to Winter since 2019...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 01 June, 2019, 11:13:36 AM
Prog 35: All Earthmen must die!  Take no prisoners! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/01/prog-35-all-earthmen-must-die-take-no-prisoners/)

Shako ends in a manner inconsistent with the 'no-shooting-or-the-capsule-might-break' constraints from preceding episodes, there's no starscan and I rediscover tags...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 02 June, 2019, 12:41:18 PM
Prog 35: All Earthmen must die!  Take no prisoners! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/01/prog-35-all-earthmen-must-die-take-no-prisoners/)

Shako ends in a manner inconsistent with the 'no-shooting-or-the-capsule-might-break' constraints from preceding episodes, there's no starscan and I rediscover tags...

I only noticed after I'd finished reading Prog 38, but the first appearance of the Landraider is also in Prog 35 (though it's not called the Landraider, and it's in an advert).  Have added a paragraph to Prog 35's entry.

Prog 37 is scheduled to go out tomorrow, but today's post is Prog 36: Take ’em from behind – best way to kill those slimy aliens! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/02/prog-36-take-em-from-behind-best-way-to-kill-those-slimy-aliens/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 03 June, 2019, 08:03:55 AM
Prog 35: All Earthmen must die!  Take no prisoners! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/01/prog-35-all-earthmen-must-die-take-no-prisoners/)

Shako ends in a manner inconsistent with the 'no-shooting-or-the-capsule-might-break' constraints from preceding episodes, there's no starscan and I rediscover tags...

The jump straight from harpoon to bazooka is one of my favorite things ever!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 03 June, 2019, 09:23:30 AM
Prog 35: All Earthmen must die!  Take no prisoners! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/01/prog-35-all-earthmen-must-die-take-no-prisoners/)

Shako ends in a manner inconsistent with the 'no-shooting-or-the-capsule-might-break' constraints from preceding episodes, there's no starscan and I rediscover tags...

The jump straight from harpoon to bazooka is one of my favorite things ever!

Having been listening to your early podcasts - did you ever get to try shredded wheat?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 03 June, 2019, 12:47:02 PM
Today's post: Prog 37: Examining specimen now… soon we shall exterminate the plague of humans! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/03/prog-37-examining-specimen-now-soon-we-shall-exterminate-the-plague-of-humans/)


: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 03 June, 2019, 06:04:26 PM
Having been listening to your early podcasts - did you ever get to try shredded wheat?

I appreciate your willingness to listen to those formative shows! I have in fact now sampled by Shreddies AND Weetabix, as well as Sherbet and KP Space Raiders! My quest for the Bigfoot Ice Lolly will sadly probably end up like my quest for Bigfoot himself: In disappointment, with a lot of spoiled milk.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 03 June, 2019, 06:20:30 PM
ah but how's your stamp collection coming on?  :lol:
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 03 June, 2019, 07:32:24 PM
ah but how's your stamp collection coming on?  :lol:

I have completed my stamp collection - when I got this one:

(https://www.collectgbstamps.co.uk/images/phq/large/phq362j.jpg)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 04 June, 2019, 01:52:50 PM
Prog 38: Killer Rock! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/04/prog-38-killer-rock/)

Spoiler warning - the twist on the supercover saga will not surprise anybody!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 05 June, 2019, 01:16:25 PM
Prog 39: Get it through your thick skull, Earthman… we don’t have pointed ears! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/05/prog-39-get-it-through-your-thick-skull-earthman-we-dont-have-pointed-ears/)

I saw one of the pages in this prog at Lawless last month - can't remember which one it was, but it was from The Ape Gang (and had just been bought for an undisclosed amount of money).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 06 June, 2019, 01:43:39 PM
Prog 40: Secret of the microverse (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/06/prog-40-secret-of-the-microverse/)

There's not really any secret in the Supercover Story, and an ending that basic medical precautions could have done something about...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 07 June, 2019, 01:19:56 PM
Prog 41: Ah-aaarrh! Two more of those juicy Earth-sweets I always enjoy! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/07/prog-41-ah-aaarrh-two-more-of-those-juicy-earth-sweets-i-always-enjoy/)

Next one's in draft and I may have a busy weekend ahead of me, so there could be a delay until the next update.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 09 June, 2019, 12:27:22 PM
Yesterday's post was Prog 42: Sorry fellas, but with these odds I’m not sticking around to play games with that stinkin alien… (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/08/prog-42-sorry-fellas-but-with-these-odds-im-not-sticking-around-to-play-games-with-that-stinkin-alien/)  Dredd goes to the Moon, but due to the Supercover Saga we don't get any pictures of something like that on the cover.

Prog 43: Dial M for Monster (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/09/prog-43-dial-m-for-monster/) - we finally get to the end of the Supercover Saga, so the covers can have something to do with the contents of the prog again!

I'm stealing Space Spinner 2000 (http://spacespinner2000.com/)'s idea of including details of where you can read these stories if you don't have the original progs and Mega-City Book Club (https://megacitybookclub.blogspot.com/)'s idea of grail pages for each prog.  Concepts stolen without permission!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 10 June, 2019, 05:25:44 AM
J. Clough is a Mike Dorey pseudonym, in the Invasion collection it's credited "Mike Dorey as J. Clough"

Always happy to inspire a slogger, keep up the great work!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 10 June, 2019, 02:55:30 PM
Thanks Conrad - I'll update the wiki!

I'm going to continue (to attempt) to update daily, scheduling the posts for 11 (GMT) or 12 (BST) each day, but I'll probably only update this thread at weekends.

Prog 44: Too late, Judge Dwedd *sob* this is our last Christmas! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/10/prog-44-too-late-judge-dwedd-sob-this-is-our-last-christmas/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 14 June, 2019, 09:57:09 PM
The week's posts, and they all have Dan Dare on the cover:

Prog 45: Dan Dare greets the galactic New Year (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/11/prog-45-dan-dare-greets-the-galactic-new-year/)
(Tuesday) The last prog of 1977.

Prog 46: Bodies, Dare, bodies of those who have dared to defy me — remember them well, for soon you will join them! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/12/prog-46-bodies-dare-bodies-of-those-who-have-dared-to-defy-me-remember-them-well-for-soon-you-will-join-them/)
(Wednesday) Dare takes to the cover, Eagle-style while Dredd takes centre page.

Prog 47: Give the order — commence the staking of the prisoners! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/13/prog-47-give-the-order-commence-the-staking-of-the-prisoners/)
(Thursday) The Visible Man starts...

Prog 48: Those escort ships will never fight again… but half the Starslayer fleet’s closing in on us, Dare! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/14/prog-48-those-escort-ships-will-never-fight-again-but-half-the-starslayer-fleets-closing-in-on-us-dare/)
(Friday)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 15 June, 2019, 06:18:35 AM
I love that prog 46 cover, all the enemies of the Star Slayers, strapped to stars orbiting their home planet! Great scifi stuff!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 15 June, 2019, 05:08:06 PM
I love that prog 46 cover, all the enemies of the Star Slayers, strapped to stars orbiting their home planet! Great scifi stuff!

What a way to launch their new format (Dare story page on the front cover)!  There's also a few alien races I don't think we ever saw before or since on those stars...

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Saturday's post - Prog 49: Death to the intruders! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/15/prog-49-death-to-the-intruders/) - Dredd is believed dead (not for the first time) and quits the force (not for the first time).  And probably the biggest character death we've seen in the prog so far...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 19 June, 2019, 10:22:06 PM
Prog 50: More Starslayer ships — but they’re opening fire on the battle fleet! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/16/prog-50-more-starslayer-ships-but-theyre-opening-fire-on-the-battle-fleet/)  Brit Cit's first mention (well, Brit Territories)!

Prog 51: You are fast, Dare — but it will take more than clever swordplay to beat the Killing Star! You are as good as dead! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/18/prog-51-you-are-fast-dare-but-it-will-take-more-than-clever-swordplay-to-beat-the-killing-star-you-are-as-good-as-dead/) Last episode of this Dare story...

Prog 52: If we weren’t light years from the other side of nowhere… …I’d say that thing was a coffin! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/19/prog-52-if-we-werent-light-years-from-the-other-side-of-nowhere-id-say-that-thing-was-a-coffin/) New Dare story, Visible Man ends, Colony Earth! begins.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 23 June, 2019, 01:14:40 AM
Prog 53: That thing already has my face, my voice, my memories! And now… it’s got my ship! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/20/prog-53-that-thing-already-has-my-face-my-voice-my-memories-and-now-its-got-my-ship/) came out.

John Probe returns, we get to see where Walter's pleasure circuit was installed and I reveal my pet hate.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 23 June, 2019, 09:06:35 PM
Today's post was: Prog 54: We’re under attack! Can’t see — can’t *gasp* even think! Aargh! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/23/prog-54-were-under-attack-cant-see-cant-gasp-even-think-aargh/)

I learn the difference between a shoal of fish and a school of fish, thanks to Belardinelli (kinda).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 24 June, 2019, 05:27:30 AM
I could imagine Walter going crazy with a label maker one day and putting multiple tags on Dredd's lawgiver!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 24 June, 2019, 11:20:16 AM
I could imagine Walter going crazy with a label maker one day and putting multiple tags on Dredd's lawgiver!

You might be on to something there - the latest Wite to Walt has something about Walter sewing Dredd's name into his long johns...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 27 June, 2019, 01:03:21 AM
Prog 55: Bear… times six! Only one of you is real — the rest are clones that must be destroyed! But which ones do I kill? (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/24/prog-55-bear-times-six-only-one-of-you-is-real-the-rest-are-clones-that-must-be-destroyed-but-which-ones-do-i-kill/)

Prog 56: Approaching planetary surface — now! Yaaaargh! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/25/prog-56-approaching-planetary-surface-now-yaaaargh/)

Prog 57: Another bash like that and we’re gonna burst open like a cracked egg! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/26/prog-57-another-bash-like-that-and-were-gonna-burst-open-like-a-cracked-egg/)
Creators get shuffled around to accomodate Star Lord's arrival in a month or two.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 28 June, 2019, 09:29:16 PM
As we enter the weekend, another two episodes have gone live...

Prog 58: L-look! Out there — it’s as big as a street-block! Yeah — an’ with our motor reactors DEAD, we’re completely at it’s mercy! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/27/prog-58-l-look-out-there-its-as-big-as-a-street-block-yeah-an-with-our-motor-reactors-dead-were-completely-at-its-mercy/)
What's the difference between cliffhanging and cliffhangering?  Bolland and McMahon share art duties on Dredd's last Luna-1 story.  Gary Leach makes his first appearance.

Prog 59: Mega City Beware – the Judge is back! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/28/prog-59-mega-city-beware-the-judge-is-back/)
Dan Dare and some crew member we've never met before try Viagra (or something that sounds very much like it) before plunging deep.  I also remember to mention that the co-founder of Forbidden Planet and Titan Books is writing stories for the prog now.

: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 29 June, 2019, 01:07:41 AM
This stuff with the Zeebs is really a prime example of Dan Dare deciding to wipe out an alien race because they've vaguely inconvenienced him. Classic battle-action playset stuff!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 30 June, 2019, 02:24:01 PM
This stuff with the Zeebs is really a prime example of Dan Dare deciding to wipe out an alien race because they've vaguely inconvenienced him. Classic battle-action playset stuff!

I'm sure his crimes will come back to haunt him some day!




I noticed something about one of the stamp adverts in Prog 58 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/27/prog-58-l-look-out-there-its-as-big-as-a-street-block-yeah-an-with-our-motor-reactors-dead-were-completely-at-its-mercy/), so have updated the blog with the following...
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f I’m not mistaken, this week’s Nerve Centre features the first contribution from a reader who will go on to be famous (admittedly this one would be famous in 2000AD circles only. Adrian Salmon presents a ‘hyper punk’ riding a bike. I missed this first time I read, but I also noticed that one of the obligatory stamp adverts looks like it’s been thrown together by the 2000AD editorial team – “? Can you name these planets – If so, you must have bionic eyes. Send us the correct answer and we’ll send you a selection of Zrag Stamps on approval plus your free 101 galaxy wide stamps. Martin Stamp Service (Dept 2000), 78 Barsoom Rd, Helium, Mars”

Back to regular programming...

Prog 60: M.A.C.H.1 meet your replacement… M.A.C.H.2! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/29/prog-60-m-a-c-h-1-meet-your-replacement-m-a-c-h-2/)
A cyborg special this prog, with MACH 1, MACH 2 (if 2 can be called a cyborg) and Artie Gruber, back from the dead!

Prog 61: Judge Dredd brings law to the… Cursed Earth! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/30/prog-61-judge-dredd-brings-law-to-the-cursed-earth/)
Dredd's return to Mega-City One - heralded for two progs, spends one and half progs on the streets, then leaves for the Cursed Earth a prog later!  Also, Remember the Great Germ War!  No, me neither...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Lobo Baggins 30 June, 2019, 02:51:53 PM
There are specific dates given in Harlem Heroes and Inferno - but I seem to recall that they imply that Inferno takes place about 130 years after Harlem Heroes. Or, possibly, the dates given in Inferno bear no realtion to the ones in Harlem Heroes.

Time distortion, that's what it is.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 30 June, 2019, 09:25:44 PM
There are specific dates given in Harlem Heroes and Inferno - but I seem to recall that they imply that Inferno takes place about 130 years after Harlem Heroes. Or, possibly, the dates given in Inferno bear no realtion to the ones in Harlem Heroes.

Time distortion, that's what it is.

The one I've just read (coming to the blog on Tuesday, I think) says that it's been two years since the game where Artie Gruber was first engulfed by flames in a match with Clay and one year since cyber-Gruber last faced Clay, which would have been in 2050 (because that's the world championship they were aiming at).  I haven't seen any other dates given in Inferno itself, just extrapolating and comparing to Harlem Heroes.  I've been making notes of dates as I go along (not just in Harlem Heroes/Inferno, but also in other stories), but not tried putting them all together yet...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 03 July, 2019, 12:42:35 AM
Prog 62: Can Commander Lorna Varn survive on… Death Planet! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/01/prog-62-can-commander-lorna-varn-survive-on-death-planet/)
Gruber returns in Inferno, Spikes Harvey Rotten returns in The Cursed Earth.

Prog 63: Beware of… RATS..! The Devil’s Lapdogs (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/02/prog-63-beware-of-rats-the-devils-lapdogs/)
Kids get bikes, mum's get cookers and dads get greenhouses!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 03 July, 2019, 01:04:06 PM
arsebiscuits, my work has revamped it's internet security and decided I can no longer look at wordpress - got a backlog of these to catch up on, but I'm loving 'em!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dark Jimbo 03 July, 2019, 01:32:29 PM
Don't think I've said it yet, but I'm really enjoying reading these!  :thumbsup:
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 04 July, 2019, 01:28:46 AM
Thanks for the votes of confidence!

Prog 64: Watch the Sky! UFO – reader’s report (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/03/prog-64-watch-the-sky-ufo-readers-report/)

The last episode of M.A.C.H.1!  A new sci-fi comic out, on the same day as Prog 64!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 05 July, 2019, 11:56:10 PM
It would have made more sense if I'd posted the Prog 64 link in the same post as the Star Lord No 1 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/04/star-lord-no-1-watch-the-stars/) link.  Watch the Stars, child soldiers!  In other news, the first appearances of great duos Johnny and Wulf, and ro-Jaws and Hammerstein!

Prog 65: Wuuuuuuuurgh! Zero is Back! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/05/prog-65-wuuuuuuuurgh-zero-is-back/)
Other than the obvious, Dave Gibbons gets to practice drawing giant alien tentacles.  Also, the return of the  third ever set of villains we saw Dredd face.  Also also - one parody of Evel Knieval dies, but don't worry, there'll be another along in a different strip by the end of the comic.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 07 July, 2019, 01:32:52 PM
Prog 65 was originally published on the same day as:

Star Lord Issue 2: You’ll never be the same after reading it! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/06/star-lord-issue-2-youll-never-be-the-same-after-reading-it/)
Mind Wars starts and a few long-running elements in Strontium Dog and Ro-Busters are introduced.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 09 July, 2019, 09:36:37 AM
On the same day the following were published:
Prog 66: I think I smell a rat! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/07/prog-66-i-think-i-smell-a-rat/)

Dave Gibbons draws huge tentacled aliens, I can't tell the different between Death Planet of the Damned and Massimo Belardinelli appears in the crowd of Inferno.

Star Lord No. 3: Fight your own Star Battles (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/08/star-lord-no-3-fight-your-own-star-battles/)

I take extra care not to confused the tale of people stranded on a deadly planet with other stories that are tales of people stranded on deadly planets, Dave Gibbons moonlights on Ro-Busters as well as this week's Dan Dare and a* gronk appears.



* not the Gronk, you understand...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 11 July, 2019, 12:35:24 AM
Cover date: 3 June 78 (so on the shelves the week before that):

Prog 67: MACH Zero in… Darts of Death! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/09/prog-67-mach-zero-in-darts-of-death/)

Walter returns!  Oh joy!  Though the even bigger news is the appearance of a certain President of the United States...

Star Lord No 4: Inside! Part One of a mind-stretching sci-fi game! It stars Strontium Dog… it’s called Hell Planet… it’s not for cowards! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/10/star-lord-no-4-inside-part-one-of-a-mind-stretching-sci-fi-game-it-stars-strontium-dog-its-called-hell-planet-its-not-for-cowards/)

The Nazi issue!  Whether you're in on a hostile planet in another dimension or Golders Green, you can't escape time or space Nazis!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 14 July, 2019, 12:35:47 AM
Prog 68: Ssssssssss Clay, now you’re gonna… DIE just like A…Artie! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/11/prog-68-ssssssssss-clay-now-youre-gonna-die-just-like-a-artie/)

MACH Zero goes all Dickensian, Walter ends, Dredd saves President Robert L Booth's life (Smooth Booth in this story, not Bad Bob Booth).

Star Lord No 5: This is gonna be a bad one, Hammer-Stein! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/12/star-lord-no-5-this-is-gonna-be-a-bad-one-hammer-stein/)

Is Doctor Varn from Star Lord's Mind Wars related to Lorna Varn from 2000AD's Death Planet?  After these two stories end, will there be any more of the Varn family in the pages of 2000AD, Star Lord or related publications?
 Questions like these won't be answered in my blog post (or anywhere).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 18 July, 2019, 12:43:09 AM
On one day in 1978 the following comics were published...

Prog 69: O.K., come quietly – or else there’ll be trouble! Tweak! (http://)

Star Lord No 6: Interstellar Federation invasion begins! You have been warned! (http://)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 18 July, 2019, 12:48:59 AM

And one week later the following pair were published.

Prog 70: Screee The Hell-bird is coming in for the kill! Time is running out for the survivors on the… Death Planet! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/15/prog-70-screee-the-hell-bird-is-coming-in-for-the-kill-time-is-running-out-for-the-survivors-on-the-death-planet/)
Female characters in boy's comics?  Zero, Dickensian-style, Tweak!

Star Lord No 7: Into forbidden worlds… beyond the limits of man’s imagination! Battle for survival on Planet of the Damned (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/16/star-lord-no-7-into-forbidden-worlds-beyond-the-limits-of-mans-imagination-battle-for-survival-on-planet-of-the-damned/)

Star Mind Wars, robot hotels, illusions, Nazis.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 20 July, 2019, 07:22:01 PM
Prog 71: Are YOU Prepared for… Ant Wars! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/17/prog-71-are-you-prepared-for-ant-wars/)

It's all about the food - eating ants, throwing mousse-covered pieces of cardboard at each other and don't forget the burgers!

Star Lord No 8: Nazi World 2478 A.D. Time Control 85 Million B.C. Torn between impossible worlds… (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/18/star-lord-no-8-nazi-world-2478-a-d-time-control-85-million-b-c-torn-between-impossible-worlds/)

Klee-Fang eats some fish, but Starlord is the comic to go to for Nazis!  Also the beginning of the three-parter SD story mentioned in the latest Space Spinner 2000 podcast (because it was reprinted in a special).