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Title: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 19 April, 2017, 09:18:18 am
Not sure if anyone listening to this...

http://cradeline.com/space-spinner-2000/2017/4/19/space-spinner-2000-ep-26-new-listeners-start-here (http://cradeline.com/space-spinner-2000/2017/4/19/space-spinner-2000-ep-26-new-listeners-start-here)

An American take on early 2000AD.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 19 April, 2017, 12:21:52 pm
I've been listening to this since it started.  Their Bill Savage impersonation needs to be heard to be believed!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 15 May, 2017, 12:43:14 am
Hadn't been, but going to start.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 15 May, 2017, 02:03:40 am
It's very entertaining! Just listening to them chanting 'Klegg Hai!' is a joy. It's a real voyage of discovery for them, and they're loving it.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 24 May, 2017, 01:38:15 pm
Got the day off work, have read my weekly prog and have it blasting through the flat so I can hear it in just about any room :D  On the second installment now.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: AlexF on 24 May, 2017, 08:01:47 pm
It's excellent! Thanks for sharing it on the forums; such a joy to hear someone being super affectionate about a comic that he'd barely heard of before, and the chap reading it all for the second time clearly has a deep abiding love 2000AD as well. I do hope they keep going; gotta admit that there's an awful lot of material in podcast/blog form about the really early tooth, but increasingly less as the Prog numbers rise.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 30 May, 2017, 09:14:25 pm
Thanks everyone! It's great to hear people liking the show, it's a ton of fun making it.

Besides our website you can find the show on iTunes, the Google Play store, and most podcast apps. We're currently doing two shows a week and making pretty good progress through the Progs (as well as the SciFi Specials and Annuals).

I definitely agree that the first couple years of 2000 AD can be over represented in recap efforts, it's sort of the nature of the beast, as otherwise you have to figure out a semi-arbitrary start point, you know? On our show we're getting every closer to the 80s, where all the classics live :D At this point we have no plan of stopping, our current goal is to put out two shows a week until we reach the Megazine, then we'll have to figure stuff out. But that's a 2019 problem ;)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 30 May, 2017, 09:51:55 pm
Thanks everyone! It's great to hear people liking the show, it's a ton of fun making it.

Besides our website you can find the show on iTunes, the Google Play store, and most podcast apps. We're currently doing two shows a week and making pretty good progress through the Progs (as well as the SciFi Specials and Annuals).

I definitely agree that the first couple years of 2000 AD can be over represented in recap efforts, it's sort of the nature of the beast, as otherwise you have to figure out a semi-arbitrary start point, you know? On our show we're getting every closer to the 80s, where all the classics live :D At this point we have no plan of stopping, our current goal is to put out two shows a week until we reach the Megazine, then we'll have to figure stuff out. But that's a 2019 problem ;)

Welcome to the forum!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 30 May, 2017, 11:06:19 pm
I just binge-listened to the first 30 on my morning commute and now I'm following them as they come out (and I'm very happy they've gone to twice a week). 

t's great fun, the guys' enthusiasm is infectious, and it's at it's best when they discuss 70s British references and wonder about things like Weetabix, Pickled Onion Outer Spacers and endless stamp coolection ads.Their love for Invasion and Shako in partuicular was great to listen to, and it's okay guys, nobody liked Rick Random.

I've seen a few things with a new perspective through their eyes - such as the fact that Dan Dare is a genocidal dickhead who wins more by luck than judgement and invariably gets ALL his crew killed. Also, I knew Dredd wasn't keen on robots, but didn't appreciate just how consistently robo-racist he's been from day one - whether they're rebelling or kissing his boots, he hates 'em all.

They're a little harsh on the specials and annuals - jeez guys, reading a few actual words won't kill ya, and those space articles were cutting-edge in 1978!

The one thing that invariably bugs me though is the mispronunciation of names - it's GERRY (same as Jerry) Finlay Day, not Garry! Oh and the downside of listening to them on the morning commute is that they frame each episode with a chart song from that month, which can be real nostalgic earworms. It's embarrasing to spend a whole day singing Silver Lady or Figaro!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 31 May, 2017, 08:25:35 am
The music of the week really sets the scene, and yeah the enthusiasm is infectious. I think the whole package is like opening up a time capsule including the non-thrills, ads etc which you don't get with the trades.

It passed me by how much of a genocidal maniac DD was as well.

Favouwite episode was the one with the Dwedd episode weviewed with a tewwifyingly accuwate pwonunication.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 31 May, 2017, 09:51:37 am
Favouwite episode was the one with the Dwedd episode weviewed with a tewwifyingly accuwate pwonunication.

My favourite was the one where Conrad reads an utterly bonkers (but completely accurate!) synopsis of Angel while Fox looses it in the background.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: 8-Ball on 31 May, 2017, 12:39:00 pm
Had a quick listen to a random episode last night, superb. I especially liked the Invasion stuff.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: skurvy on 31 May, 2017, 12:54:06 pm
It's my new favourite podcast, I absolutely love it. I also really want a "quack, quack Volgs" t-shirt now.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 31 May, 2017, 02:19:39 pm
They're a little harsh on the specials and annuals - jeez guys, reading a few actual words won't kill ya, and those space articles were cutting-edge in 1978!

The one thing that invariably bugs me though is the mispronunciation of names - it's GERRY (same as Jerry) Finlay Day, not Garry! Oh and the downside of listening to them on the morning commute is that they frame each episode with a chart song from that month, which can be real nostalgic earworms. It's embarrasing to spend a whole day singing Silver Lady or Figaro!

Oh man, that's really embarrasing about Gerry Finlay-Day, I swear I've seen that name pronounced elsewhere as "Gary" but I will change my pronounciation going forward (it may take a while for it to filter into the episodes, we're pretty far ahead in terms of taping). I think we are a bit harsher on Annuals and Specials than we could be, usually it's just that the content in general isn't as good as the regular progs and the short stories and features bear the brunt of that.

I'm always happy to put weird ear-worms in people's heads from the opening songs! I always end of bopping along to some old disco track or something, and there was one really funny day at the office when Fox came in singing "Take a Chance on Me" uncontrollably because of the show :D


Quote from: skurvy
It's my new favourite podcast, I absolutely love it. I also really want a "quack, quack Volgs" t-shirt now
Invasion remains a favorite of ours, and coming up there's a call back to "quack, quack Volgs" during our coverage of Disaster 1990 that I think is pretty hilarious!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 31 May, 2017, 03:19:06 pm
It's true the annuals and specials aren't as good as the prog - even as a kid I could tell when a story was recycled filler or when a writer doesn't "get" a character - but I must disagree that a 10yr old would skip the features, quizzes and text stories: trust me, if you're stuck on a wet campsite in Wales for 2 weeks with no TV you'd read that sucker cover to cover several times!!!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 31 May, 2017, 04:45:34 pm
Haha, that's definitely fair. It's easy to forget what it's like a kid without a lot of options! I'm trying to interact with the Annuals and Specials a bit more, we do a couple quizzes in the '79 Sci Fi Special, and another in the Annual. My goal is to positive when possible!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 31 May, 2017, 06:57:18 pm
I just want to add another voice of appreciation - this really is very excellent stuff and hilarious with it. I listened to the most recent 2 today and was struggling to not laugh out loud amongst my very packed in fellow train passengers. Thanks SpaceSpinner2000! Looking forward to the next one.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Geoff on 31 May, 2017, 07:29:20 pm
Just listened to the first 5mins of the linked episode...it's playing as I type - it's great guys, keep it up!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 01 June, 2017, 08:11:46 pm
I'm not sure if I should start a new official thread for the show or not, but we have a new episode out today!

(http://i.imgur.com/yoyK3qg.jpg) (http://imgur.com/yoyK3qg)

In our thrilling thirty-sixth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 120-123 of 2000 AD, covering July of 1979. Join us as we get underway with ABC Warriors and Disaster 1990 and we near the finale of Dan Dare

Find the episode here:
Direct Download (http://cradeline.com/space-spinner-2000/2017/6/1/space-spinner-2000-ep-36)
iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/space-spinner-2000-cradeline-network/id1162479912?mt=2)
Google (https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Iyrcaybmzmrupjzvsk7rbme5ymy)
Stitcher (http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/stranger-by-the-dozen/space-spinner-2000)
Or on your favorite podcast app!

Please let me know what you think of the episode!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 02 June, 2017, 12:02:25 am
I'm not sure if I should start a new official thread for the show or not, but we have a new episode out today!

(http://i.imgur.com/yoyK3qg.jpg) (http://imgur.com/yoyK3qg)

In our thrilling thirty-sixth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 120-123 of 2000 AD, covering July of 1979. Join us as we get underway with ABC Warriors and Disaster 1990 and we near the finale of Dan Dare

Find the episode here:
Direct Download (http://cradeline.com/space-spinner-2000/2017/6/1/space-spinner-2000-ep-36)
iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/space-spinner-2000-cradeline-network/id1162479912?mt=2)
Google (https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Iyrcaybmzmrupjzvsk7rbme5ymy)
Stitcher (http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/stranger-by-the-dozen/space-spinner-2000)
Or on your favorite podcast app!

Please let me know what you think of the episode!

Deadlock's first appearance!  Though I've not listened to the show yet as I need to catch up first!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: terryworld on 02 June, 2017, 05:39:11 am
thoroughly enjoying these too, as has been said, the enthusiasm for the early progs is infectious. well done fellas, keep 'em going.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 04 June, 2017, 07:00:03 pm
I have become somewhat addicted to these now and am spending every spare minute I have catching up on them (up to 21 now). I have never actually read any of these progs myself, I only know some of the strips through reprints (Dredd and Flesh) but I like the idea of reading them before each podcast. The synopses of some of these early forgotten strips can be hilarious - Ant Wars in particular sounds ridiculous.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 04 June, 2017, 11:47:19 pm
I have become somewhat addicted to these now and am spending every spare minute I have catching up on them (up to 21 now). I have never actually read any of these progs myself, I only know some of the strips through reprints (Dredd and Flesh) but I like the idea of reading them before each podcast. The synopses of some of these early forgotten strips can be hilarious - Ant Wars in particular sounds ridiculous.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 05 June, 2017, 12:51:28 am
Sorry, I wrote a whole dialog making fun of ant wars but it got eaten by the forum (and possibly giant ants!)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 06 June, 2017, 05:28:38 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/yhOYDbX.jpg) (http://imgur.com/yhOYDbX)

In our thrilling thirty-seventh episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 124-127 of 2000 AD, covering August of 1979. Join us as the ABC Warriors recruit more team members, a mutant army invades Mega-City 1 and both Project Overkill and 2000 AD veteran Dan Dare complete their journeys. Also 2000 AD merges with Tornado magazine, bringing with it new thrills Blackhawk, The Mind of Wolfie Smith, and Captain Klep!

Direct Download (http://cradeline.com/space-spinner-2000/2017/6/5/space-spinner-2000-ep-37)
iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/space-spinner-2000-cradeline-network/id1162479912?mt=2)
Google (https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Iyrcaybmzmrupjzvsk7rbme5ymy)
Stitcher (http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/stranger-by-the-dozen/space-spinner-2000)
Or on your favorite podcast app!

Please let me know what you think of the episode!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 06 June, 2017, 05:53:07 pm
Another fun episode (hope you're feeling better btw). You missed one of the greatest puns in Dredd during the animal experiments story (or was that last ep?) - Caption:"Dredd posted a heavy guard on the door" - image: really fat judge guarding door.

Have you read any Tornado? It wasn't great - I love the way they had to sci-fi up stories like Blackhawk which began a normal historical adventures. Whatever plaudits Dave Gibbons gets for Watchmen, he'll always be BigE to me  :lol:

You'll see lots of letters over the coming years asking when Dan Dare is coming back but they just kind of abandoned it mid story. Not a great loss, but when they did the same to Luke Kirby and Halo Jones ... grrrr!

And what is Fox's fascination with the Green Cross Code? I bet the TV ads are on YouTube - check them out to see what Darth Vader should have sounded like - his accent FYI is West Country (SW England) generally caricatured as "dumb country yokel" I guess the US equivalent would be a Deliverence style redneck
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 06 June, 2017, 05:56:19 pm
Loving it - I remember being pissed off with the Tornado merger at the time - especially Klep, even though it was a one pager.

Wolfie Smith didn't really seem to fit, although I guess it's not much different to something like MACH 0...

At least Blackhawk had Belardinelli and weirdness.

And yeah, ABC Warriors is phenomenal.

I did laugh at the pic of the fish in Disaster 1990...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 06 June, 2017, 07:10:41 pm
Quote from: Dandontdare
And what is Fox's fascination with the Green Cross Code? I bet the TV ads are on YouTube - check them out to see what Darth Vader should have sounded like - his accent FYI is West Country (SW England) generally caricatured as "dumb country yokel" I guess the US equivalent would be a Deliverence style redneck

I have no idea why Fox hates the Green Cross Code so much! It's a children's comic at this point and it seems reasonable to have a thing reminding them to look both ways before crossing the street, imo. We have things teaching kids that here as well, but for some reason it's a real bee in Fox's bonnet!

I'm extremely bummed to have missed the "heavy guard" line, I think it's clear at this point that puns like that are what give me life energy! :D I haven't read any or Tornado or that much Starlord, it seems very interesting but it's hard to find the time!

Quote from: Steve Green
Loving it - I remember being pissed off with the Tornado merger at the time - especially Klep, even though it was a one pager.

Wolfie Smith didn't really seem to fit, although I guess it's not much different to something like MACH 0...

I agree about Wolfie Smith, maybe it's just the scale of the threats he encounters and the level of power needed to deal with them? There's not really a ton of crazy action scenes, like John Probe beating guys up with a motor cycle or the hobo army coming to free Mach Zero. It's more just minor threats easily handled by ESP, if that makes sense.

Also, I don't know what to do with these one-pagers you guys. Sooner or Later is really good, but it seems like it's the ONLY good one, unless Dash Decent turns out OK, but I seem to have scrubbed it from my memory, which isn't a good sign!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 06 June, 2017, 07:23:58 pm
I guess they were handy filler if they couldn't fill ad space - being single pages they were a bit crap for a shock reveal. Seemed more like a throwback to younger comics for the most part.

I haven't read Wolfie Smith in decades, but I think yeah it doesn't have the violence of MACH 1 or the more interesting aspects like the Vagrant Army of MACH Zero.

More importantly it's taking up a slot which Strontium Dog could be sitting in...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 06 June, 2017, 08:26:48 pm
And what is Fox's fascination with the Green Cross Code? I bet the TV ads are on YouTube - check them out to see what Darth Vader should have sounded like
Damn, just looked at one of those and they dubbed him with a posh upper class voice! (There are clips of the Star Wars original rushes that are hilarious though)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 07 June, 2017, 09:48:48 am
Damn, just looked at one of those and they dubbed him with a posh upper class voice! (There are clips of the Star Wars original rushes that are hilarious though)

They use his real voice in the later ones - not to mention some of the ones from the eighties had a voice over by Ian 'The Emperor' McDiarmid...

I haven't read Wolfie Smith in decades, but I think yeah it doesn't have the violence of MACH 1 or the more interesting aspects like the Vagrant Army of MACH Zero.

Wolfie Smith's biggest problem is that both of his stories have three or four episodes worth of plot (at most!) that are stretched over some fifteen episodes each.

More importantly it's taking up a slot which Strontium Dog could be sitting in...

Aww, the other things Carlos was busy drawing more-or-less make up for that!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 07 June, 2017, 10:59:22 am
You mean that episode of Rick Random, yeah?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 07 June, 2017, 02:04:55 pm
You mean that episode of Rick Random, yeah?

Hey, now, that was the best thing about Rick Random!  Vanda Lane gets unbelievably hot for a couple of panels.  Anyway, that was L. J. Silver, who may or may not be a Spanish pirate...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 07 June, 2017, 03:38:13 pm
Quote from: Lobo Baggins
Aww, the other things Carlos was busy drawing more-or-less make up for that!

Quote from: Steve Green
You mean that episode of Rick Random, yeah?

This is a extremely savage burn! But seriously, I tend to agree, inbetween Journey to Hell and Death's Head Ezquerra drew two Stainless Steel Rat chapters, Fiends of the Eastern Front, and a bunch of Tharg one-offs, plus feared pirate Long John Silver drew the Golgotha section of ABC Warriors (Robots vs armored T-Rexs!). It's pretty good output, imo!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 07 June, 2017, 03:59:27 pm
I'd forgotten about the Rat.

Seemed pretty unusual to rest what I imagined was a top-tier (even if a relatively new import) for a year, and have one of your top droids working on a WW2 vampire story, (an odd fit for 2000AD) + disposable tharg stories etc.

I guess it could have been the scripts weren't ready.

What's weird is that Stainless Steel Rat is well-liked, and Rick Random isn't much, despite them both originating from Harry Harrison.

I guess the Rat is much more fun, and feels less retro?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: matty_ae on 07 June, 2017, 04:06:18 pm
Just listened to the first episode. Love the English focus group impressions. Very funny.
Will listen to more.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 07 June, 2017, 04:27:02 pm
Quote from: Steve Green
What's weird is that Stainless Steel Rat is well-liked, and Rick Random isn't much, despite them both originating from Harry Harrison.

I guess the Rat is much more fun, and feels less retro?

I think that's it. SSR feels very modern with its fourth wall breaking first person narration and incredibly fast action pace. Plus I'd bet in terms of source material Harrison may have worked harder on a novel (Rat) than a comic strip (Random).

That said, in these early Progs any time they aren't publishing Strontium Dog and Robo-Hunter stories I feel like the prog isn't living up to it's full potential! :D

Quote from: matty_ae
Just listened to the first episode. Love the English focus group impressions. Very funny.
Will listen to more.

Those kids love their cowboys and dinosaurs! We try to keep our English accents as broad and ridiculous as possible!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 07 June, 2017, 04:38:22 pm
Talking of broad and ridiculous accents, you'll have to meet Pete Wells one of these days...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 07 June, 2017, 06:52:43 pm
Quote from: Steve Green
What's weird is that Stainless Steel Rat is well-liked, and Rick Random isn't much, despite them both originating from Harry Harrison.

I guess the Rat is much more fun, and feels less retro?

I think that's it. SSR feels very modern with its fourth wall breaking first person narration and incredibly fast action pace. Plus I'd bet in terms of source material Harrison may have worked harder on a novel (Rat) than a comic strip (Random).

I don't think that any of the Rick Random stories that are reprinted in the annuals and specials are actually written by Harry Harrison - plus Random is from the fifties and Slippery Jim first appeared in 1961.

Anyway, the weirdest thing about The Riddle of the Astral Assassin is that it seems, somehow, even more old fashioned than the fifties stories in the reprints!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 07 June, 2017, 06:54:42 pm
Talking of broad and ridiculous accents, you'll have to meet Pete Wells one of these days...

Careful, now, I hear (from a friend of a friend) that if you go on the internets and say 'Pete Wells' three times on a podcast, he'll toorn up in just his pants...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 08 June, 2017, 06:47:16 am
Quack quack volgs
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 08 June, 2017, 07:36:19 am
Talking of broad and ridiculous accents, you'll have to meet Pete Wells one of these days...

Careful, now, I hear (from a friend of a friend) that if you go on the internets and say 'Pete Wells' three times on a podcast, he'll toorn up in just his pants...

Naw, would be naked painted blue, Doctor ManMackem.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 08 June, 2017, 03:03:46 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/wbwuxj7.jpg)

In our thrilling thirty-eighth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with the Dan Dare Annual 1980. Join us for comics from deep in the Fleetway Vault, and a holiday themed robot brawl that seems to be mostly about late 70s labor relations! Also we continue to out ourselves as dumb Americans by our dislike of reading words not accompanied by pictures!

http://cradeline.com/space-spinner-2000/2017/6/8/space-spinner-2000-ep-38 (http://cradeline.com/space-spinner-2000/)
iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/space-spinner-2000-cradeline-network/id1162479912?mt=2)
Google (https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Iyrcaybmzmrupjzvsk7rbme5ymy)
Stitcher (http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/stranger-by-the-dozen/space-spinner-2000)
Or on your favorite podcast app!
 
Please let me know what you think of the episode! I'm also very interested to hear any insights/observations about the infamous Holiday Party story in this annual!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 08 June, 2017, 03:26:17 pm
I'm not the greatest fan of the early progs in the same way as I am "my" Era (or at least Starlord onwards era!), so I was wary of starting from the beginning - 38 episodes already!  Shouldn't have worried - already on Episode 4! Great stuff
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Pyroxian on 08 June, 2017, 03:58:16 pm
It's kinda fun reading the episodes they're about to review before listening. Or at least the ones that I can - where's that darn MACH 1 collection...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 08 June, 2017, 10:22:48 pm
Can't help much with the background to that story, except that it was almost certainly writen by Pat Mills. I know you've been reading Thrillpower Overload, but I can't recoomed highly enough Steve McManus' The Mighty One - his autobiography covering the creation of 2000ad and his stint as editor during the period you're currently reviewing. And Pat Mills has his own version of events just published - 2000AD & Judge Dredd: The Secret History - so far only as an e-book, but I'm holding out for a physical version (Summary - "management were all bastards and every decision I made was right")
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 09 June, 2017, 02:48:17 am
Definitely! I'm about halfway through the Mighty One now (though the effects of me reading it won't show up on the show for a while, we record pretty far ahead.) And while I don't recall him talking about this this story specifically, his book is really valuable. There's a long section about planning the first Judge Dredd annual that I'm very excited to bring to the podcast. I've already got Mills's book queued up for afterwards!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 09 June, 2017, 07:37:22 am
Yeah that dredd stories fricking weird....it must be the first instance of a dredd story that can in no way whatsoever make sense in the "canon" of the series

what the hell were they thinking
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 09 June, 2017, 08:19:36 pm
Definitely! I'm about halfway through the Mighty One now (though the effects of me reading it won't show up on the show for a while, we record pretty far ahead.) And while I don't recall him talking about this this story specifically, his book is really valuable. There's a long section about planning the first Judge Dredd annual that I'm very excited to bring to the podcast. I've already got Mills's book queued up for afterwards!
also forgot to mention the Future Shock DVD - the extended version has about three hundred hours of Pat Mills. but the basic version is definitly worth a watch. In addition to some fantastic anecdotes from the creators about that time, there are interviews with people like Karen Berger who admits that Vertigo could never have happened without 2000ad
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 11 June, 2017, 09:43:04 am
Please let me know what you think of the episode! I'm also very interested to hear any insights/observations about the infamous Holiday Party story in this annual!

Don't worry, you're nearly away from the Space Facts and Ill Fitting Reprint era of the annuals - although the IPC annuals are actually vastly superior to their rivals, World Distributors, whose offerings for their licensed stuff like Doctor Who are often so bizarre and off model that it's almost unrecognisable.  And consider yourselves fortunate that you're not doing the Starlord Annuals, as the last one has a six page Stronty Dog script, one other new strip that's completely unrelated to anything that appeared in the actual comic, then eighty pages of filler material and particularly crappy reprints.

There was a four year ban on reprints, so they're finally able to reprint 2000AD strips beginning in the 1982 annuals and it improves dramatically after that happens, and the 1981 Judge Dredd Annual is a shining example of what the annuals could be like.  It also means that you'll eventually be able to do some of the Starlord stories in the podcast as the likes of early Strontium Dog and Ro Busters get reprinted in the specials and annuals.

I don't know what they were thinking of with the Dredd party story - it's an eight page comedy strip that doesn't have any jokes in it.  Weird to think that the Dan Dare annuals have the first full colour Dredd strips in them...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 12 June, 2017, 10:28:38 am
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In our thrilling thirty-ninth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 128-132 of 2000 AD, covering September of 1979. Join us as the ABC Warriors head to Mars, SPREAD THE WORD! Also we discuss the proper terminology for breaking into a ship, sing along with Ursa, and kill a ton of geese with Bill Savage!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 12 June, 2017, 02:30:55 pm
Great podcast again!

Yeah Johnny Teardrop has a bit of a Bruce Forsyth thing physically - he was a mainstay of 70s and 80s gameshows, and hosted the UK version of Dancing with the Stars called Strictly Come Dancing until recently.

His catchphrase parodied in Sob Story is 'Didn't they do well' which comes from the generation game, where they familes competed against each others performing tasks demonstrated by experts.

Johnny Teardrop seems like an amalgam of Brucie, with the camper aspects of Larry Grayson, who took over from him on the Generation Game.


Rumpus' outfit is a Teddy-boy outfit, which started appearing in the 1950s, rather than the 1970s.
is a riff on a Fiat TV commercial, which ended with 'handbuilt by robots' this was around the time automation was coming in.

There was also a sketch parodying it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU-tuY0Z7nQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU-tuY0Z7nQ)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 15 June, 2017, 05:46:20 pm
New one out today and it is the 1980 2000ad annual. Is the last of the terrible annuals? I think the 1981 one was where they started being good.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 15 June, 2017, 06:32:13 pm
I'd argue that the 1980 Annual has it's moments, but it's still pretty rough. Looking ahead the 81 Annual looks pretty fun, though it still has older legacy comics and a lot of short stories and other prose. To me the 82 annual is where things really pick up, when they're allowed to start reprinting launch 2000AD stories and stuff. Nothing against Phantom Patrol or Guinea Pig, but the art and writing style of these older stories really stand in stark relief to even the stuff in the annual, let alone what's going into the Progs at this point.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 15 June, 2017, 06:37:47 pm
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In our thrilling fortieth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest comic with the 1980 2000 AD Annual (Annuals are dated by the following year). This episode we discuss the final Dan Dare story, the strange fate of Mega City 4, and we learn our 2000 AD IQ! We're 40 episodes in, and we hope that like us, Tharg is a big part of your life!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Fungus on 15 June, 2017, 10:26:10 pm
Excellent podcast guys, I'm only a couple of episodes in but am here for the duration. A month of progs each time works well.

In the Annuals, I can't rate '1981' even though I was an excitable new fan at the time. '1982' is a big leap forward. And the first Dredd Annual was a thing of beauty, as we all know.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 17 June, 2017, 09:11:01 am
Got as far as episode 22, which has been vaped from Stitcher????
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 17 June, 2017, 05:51:16 pm
Got as far as episode 22, which has been vaped from Stitcher????

Whoa weird, sorry about that! I think I see why episode 22 is missing but I'm not sure how to get it back on Stitcher :( In the meantime, you can download the file directly from the site (http://cradeline.com/space-spinner-2000/2017/3/21/space-spinner-2000-ep-22) and you should be able to play it in the Stitcher app as a work around. I'm really sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks for bringing this to my attention!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 17 June, 2017, 06:38:55 pm
No worries!

Listening to the download now... I'll be working away in a couple of weeks and intend to catch up as near as I can then - your enthusiasm for these early stories is very infectious - If you love the early progs, stamp ads and all, you really owe it to yourself to check out some Solar Wind! http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/omnivistascope
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 17 June, 2017, 07:55:06 pm
Seconded - That's some quality small press there.

Hang in there - the annuals do get better!!

Just thinking if you had started this a year ago we'd be desperately trying to talk you into coming over for the 40th party so you could meet all these ex-thargs and others
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 17 June, 2017, 08:07:00 pm
I've been reading The Mighty One and it's got me very excited for the first Judge Dredd Annual, MacManus talks about the creation of that pretty extensively. We were just starting out during the 40th, only on episode 18 or so. Luckily at our current pace we should be finishing up in time for the 50th anniversary! :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 19 June, 2017, 04:36:53 pm
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In our thrilling forty-first episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 133-136 of 2000 AD, covering October of 1979. We only need six words to describe this episode: Incredibly Armed, Incredibly Dangerous, Incredibly Awesome.

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Vanilllahubby on 20 June, 2017, 09:02:55 am
Another great episode Fox and Conrad! I certainly can feel your love for the prog  :D
Just reread the first dredd annual, it certainly feels like a quantum leap compared to
the early 2000ad books. Can't wait to listen to that podcast!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 22 June, 2017, 08:33:09 am
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In our thrilling forty-second episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 137-140 of 2000 AD, covering November of 1979. Join us for the heart warming story of Mad George, the terrifying Night of the Bloodbeast, and for Blackhawk losing his soul! Also we continue our constant march towards our own Disaster 1990!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 26 June, 2017, 02:27:27 pm
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In our thrilling forty-third episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 141-145 of 2000 AD, covering December of 1979. Join us Christmas in June (check out the festive airhorn!), as Tharg punches out Santa, Barney the computer grants wishes, and the Stainless Steel Rat comes into his own!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 26 June, 2017, 09:46:53 pm
We are ticking ever close to the golden age of 2000ad
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 26 June, 2017, 11:40:14 pm
Basically one more episode! Once Judge Death shows up you've gone from "Early 2000AD" to "Golden Age 2000 AD" :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 27 June, 2017, 06:39:09 pm
Great stuff again.

I think Alvin Gaunt is not just Alant Grant. I think it is Kevin Gosnell and Alan Grant but I can't remember where I got that from.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 27 June, 2017, 09:15:23 pm
Great stuff again.

I think Alvin Gaunt is not just Alant Grant. I think it is Kevin Gosnell and Alan Grant but I can't remember where I got that from.

Yeah in my head (I'm guessing from Thrillpower Overload) Kevin Gosnell started the story but then past it onto Alan Grant to run with, hence the name...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 27 June, 2017, 09:40:47 pm
According to Barney (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&Comic=2000AD&choice=BLACKH) it was a Gosnell/Grant team up for the first prog, then just Grant for the remainder. I credited it as both of them for the first two episodes we covered Blackhawk but have stopped in more recent ones.

You can kind of see the team-up in the writer's name, ALan+KelVIN=Alvin, GrANT+GOsnell=Guant

I'm kind of arbitrarily deciding that once BH loses his soul it's all Grant :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 28 June, 2017, 08:18:48 am
Ah, aboard the last launch to transfer off the HMS Hood before it was destroyed was a young Navy intelligence officer, Lieutenant Jon Pertwee, who later went on to present a prototype (and even more annoying) version of the Green Gross Code...

https://youtu.be/_r1UiNZ3G4Y (https://youtu.be/_r1UiNZ3G4Y)

Stop pavement look is near keep, that's easy to remember...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 29 June, 2017, 06:49:41 am
Ah, aboard the last launch to transfer off the HMS Hood before it was destroyed was a young Navy intelligence officer, Lieutenant Jon Pertwee, who later went on to present a prototype (and even more annoying) version of the Green Gross Code...

https://youtu.be/_r1UiNZ3G4Y (https://youtu.be/_r1UiNZ3G4Y)

Stop pavement look is near keep, that's easy to remember...

Holy crap, all of that is amazing!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 29 June, 2017, 10:18:50 am
Ah, aboard the last launch to transfer off the HMS Hood before it was destroyed was a young Navy intelligence officer, Lieutenant Jon Pertwee, who later went on to present a prototype (and even more annoying) version of the Green Gross Code...

https://youtu.be/_r1UiNZ3G4Y (https://youtu.be/_r1UiNZ3G4Y)

Stop pavement look is near keep, that's easy to remember...

Well I've found where Conrad's been hiding.

The Green Cross Code is slightly improved by Mr. Pertwee, but reminds me a lot of Look Around You: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaI6kBVyu00

As a child once, I don't recall ever needing instruction on the hazards of getting smashed by a car. We had our fair share in the US that were crammed in between the precious cartoons. I'm trying to watch Skeleton Warriors, stop bothering me Crash Test Dummies!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 29 June, 2017, 10:42:01 am
We should have had some 2000 AD themed safety films.

Don't throw motor-cycles at people unless you're a MACH man.

While taking a bath in Volgan-occupied Britain, always remember your yellow ducky and shotgun.

Dinosaur awareness week.

And Dan Dare's please remember to blow up this planet before you leave the system.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Vanilllahubby on 29 June, 2017, 11:40:38 am
Never leave the doghouse without your electronux and at night keep yourself seen
with a electroflare (warning may cause blindness). Just a quick question fox&Conrad,
how far in front are you with the podcast? Into 1981 yet?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 29 June, 2017, 12:54:54 pm
Ah, aboard the last launch to transfer off the HMS Hood before it was destroyed was a young Navy intelligence officer, Lieutenant Jon Pertwee, who later went on to present a prototype (and even more annoying) version of the Green Gross Code...

https://youtu.be/_r1UiNZ3G4Y (https://youtu.be/_r1UiNZ3G4Y)

Stop pavement look is near keep, that's easy to remember...

Well I've found where Conrad's been hiding.

The Green Cross Code is slightly improved by Mr. Pertwee, but reminds me a lot of Look Around You: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaI6kBVyu00

As a child once, I don't recall ever needing instruction on the hazards of getting smashed by a car. We had our fair share in the US that were crammed in between the precious cartoons. I'm trying to watch Skeleton Warriors, stop bothering me Crash Test Dummies!


May be the parts of California that I visited, but every corner had Walk-Don't-Walk lights.  You wouldn't get far in the UK if you only crossed roads where there was a specified crossing.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Tiplodocus on 29 June, 2017, 02:04:21 pm
Listening to the first five episodes of this while decorating.

Hugely enjoyable stuff and the enthusiasm for INVASION has me laughing along.  It really makes me want to go back and read INVASION and HARLEM HEROES in full again.  MACH 1, less so.

But looking forward to more.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 29 June, 2017, 02:27:36 pm
Never leave the doghouse without your electronux and at night keep yourself seen
with a electroflare (warning may cause blindness). Just a quick question fox&Conrad,
how far in front are you with the podcast? Into 1981 yet?

Our current posting schedule is super aggressive so we are pretty far ahead, that way we can provide a consistent product to you guys while allowing us the ability to get reasonable amounts of sleep! It's a balancing act though, because being ahead means that it takes a while for us to react to things, even important corrects like me mis-pronouncing Gerry Finley-Day's name! Since you asked, right now we have shows recorded until the middle of Q3 1980, but we're trying to get further ahead.

Also, for the record I remain legitimately exasperated by Fox's anti-Green Cross Code stance.

Listening to the first five episodes of this while decorating.

Hugely enjoyable stuff and the enthusiasm for INVASION has me laughing along.  It really makes me want to go back and read INVASION and HARLEM HEROES in full again.  MACH 1, less so.

But looking forward to more.

Thanks! We're having a ton of fun making the show and it means a lot to hear people enjoying it!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 29 June, 2017, 02:39:27 pm
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In our thrilling forty-fourth episode Fox and Conrad take a break from reviewing weekly progs to reminisce on the whole of 2000 AD comics for the year 1979. It's a chance to reflect, review, and give out awards! Welcome to the 1979 Spinnies! At the end of every chronological year in our prog timeline we'll give out awards to the storylines and thrills we liked best over the last year.

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 29 June, 2017, 02:40:13 pm
We should have had some 2000 AD themed safety films.

Don't throw motor-cycles at people unless you're a MACH man.

While taking a bath in Volgan-occupied Britain, always remember your yellow ducky and shotgun.

Dinosaur awareness week.

And Dan Dare's please remember to blow up this planet before you leave the system.


If you're going to befriend Bill Savage or Dan Dare, remember this simple acronym: PYW. Prepare Your Will!



May be the parts of California that I visited, but every corner had Walk-Don't-Walk lights.  You wouldn't get far in the UK if you only crossed roads where there was a specified crossing.

There are, but if I know my Californian's, those are very optional. Besides, it's robot slavery and I'm taking a stand. Er, walk.


Listening to the first five episodes of this while decorating.

Hugely enjoyable stuff and the enthusiasm for INVASION has me laughing along.  It really makes me want to go back and read INVASION and HARLEM HEROES in full again.  MACH 1, less so.

But looking forward to more.

I seriously miss Harlem Heroes. I was very surprised by how taken I became with a sports comic. I'm going into this very blind, but Conrad has explained to me that I shouldn't be too excited for anything after Inferno in that regard.




Space Spinner 2000 Rules, OK!?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 29 June, 2017, 03:00:42 pm
May be the parts of California that I visited, but every corner had Walk-Don't-Walk lights.  You wouldn't get far in the UK if you only crossed roads where there was a specified crossing.

There are, but if I know my Californian's, those are very optional. Besides, it's robot slavery and I'm taking a stand. Er, walk.

I knew a guy who is technically a wanted man in California - he got a ticket for jay-walking across an empty street in Hollywood at 3am, and by the time the ever-increasing fines and court demands had been redirected to him via several address changes, there was a warrant for his arrest out.
How long do those things last? This was 1987, but he claimed he'd never be able to go back to California again!

And if Darth Vader or Dr Who can't persuade you to be safe, how about creepy 70s pop heart-throb Alvin Stardust (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiKQO6BVzyA)?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 29 June, 2017, 03:05:36 pm
May be the parts of California that I visited, but every corner had Walk-Don't-Walk lights.  You wouldn't get far in the UK if you only crossed roads where there was a specified crossing.

There are, but if I know my Californian's, those are very optional. Besides, it's robot slavery and I'm taking a stand. Er, walk.

I knew a guy who is technically a wanted man in California - he got a ticket for jay-walking across an empty street in Hollywood at 3am, and by the time the ever-increasing fines and court demands had been redirected to him via several address changes, there was a warrant for his arrest out.
How long do those things last? This was 1987, but he claimed he'd never be able to go back to California again!

I am not a lawyer, but I suspect three years (http://statelaws.findlaw.com/california-law/california-criminal-statute-of-limitations-laws.html).
Quote
And if Darth Vader or Dr Who can't persuade you to be safe, how about creepy 70s pop heart-throb Alvin Stardust (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiKQO6BVzyA)?

We thought of him as a cheap Gary Glitter knock-off - I know which one I'd want as an entertainer at a party now...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 03 July, 2017, 03:23:13 pm
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In our thrilling forty-fifth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 146-149 of 2000 AD, covering January of 1980. It's a huge Judge Dredd month, as Judge Minty leaves Mega City One just as Judge Death arrives! Also Conrad tries to explain what Top of the Pops is, and fails miserably!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 03 July, 2017, 03:28:35 pm
We sort of expose the business this episode, as you can really figure out when we're taping vs  when the episodes come out based on our Judge Minty Fan Film discussion. As Steve McManus will tell you, stockpiling is important to having a smooth release schedule!  :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 03 July, 2017, 03:38:35 pm
I'd completely forgotten that Timequake made an appearance in the prog.

Thanks for the shout-out on Minty - yeah, The Stainless Steel Rat is great - the rebellion trade collects the three strips.

I wish they'd adapted more.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 03 July, 2017, 04:29:04 pm
In space, no one can hear you Pew! Pew! Pew!, as there aren't any sound effects in The VCs space battles.

Not yet, anyway, as it gets forgotten later on... but it's a nice touch which took me years to notice.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 03 July, 2017, 06:03:18 pm
Whoa that's an awesome point! I didn't notice that either! Luckily the VCs themselves are there to provide sound effects themselves by shouting "VAPE" all the time!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 03 July, 2017, 06:38:18 pm
Whoa that's an awesome point! I didn't notice that either! Luckily the VCs themselves are there to provide sound effects themselves by shouting "VAPE" all the time!

Ahem, after a quick look, I now notice that spaceship explosions sometimes make noises (and Geeks go Geee! a lot) but it's otherwise silent.  The battle on Pluto actually becomes extremely eerie when I realised that.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 04 July, 2017, 05:47:55 pm
Incidentally, some of the characters under the bridge in Captain Klep include -

Standing behind Klep in the first panel is our old pal, Rick Random.

The long haired guy using the football as a pillow is Roy Race from Roy of the Rovers, a football comic.

The guy under the comics asking about Plumduff is Jet-Ace Logan, his sidekick went by the name of Plumduff Chateris.

Spaceman First Class Albert Fitzwilliam Digby, batman to Dan Dare from The Eagle.

The disembodied metal hand is Louis Crandell, The Steel Claw (he's invisible).

The guy talking about the all-powerful eye is Tim Kelly from Kelly's Eye.

The squaddy looking for his guv'nor is Maggots Malone, batman to Captain Hurricane.

The bloke with the cigar and the hat is Major Eazy, an extremely laid back Carlos Ezquerra character from Battle.

Captain Hurricane was a British Commando and homicidal maniac originally from Valiant, but he was the Tharg-style editor of Battle at the time of this strip.

The robot with ARC on its chest is Robot Archie, you may remember him from the first Tharg's Future Shock (he was originally from Lion).

I don't know who the stripy thing in front of Rick Random is, or the bloke in the second to last panel who's 'finally going to die' is though.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 04 July, 2017, 06:19:19 pm
The stripey character is Tiger Tim.

The other guy - D-Day Dawson possibly? Shot by a Nazi bullet, lodged near his heart?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Tiplodocus on 04 July, 2017, 07:52:49 pm
I don't see the download option on the website any more? Is there a limit of 5 downloads and I have to stream the rest?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 05 July, 2017, 02:38:07 am
Not that I'm aware of, but I might not have it turned on for every episode. I will correct this in the next few hours hopefully!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 05 July, 2017, 04:06:10 am
All episodes should now be downloadable from the website! Let me know if something isn't working.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 05 July, 2017, 01:13:54 pm
Incidentally, some of the characters under the bridge in Captain Klep include -

Standing behind Klep in the first panel is our old pal, Rick Random.

The long haired guy using the football as a pillow is Roy Race from Roy of the Rovers, a football comic.

The guy under the comics asking about Plumduff is Jet-Ace Logan, his sidekick went by the name of Plumduff Chateris.

Spaceman First Class Albert Fitzwilliam Digby, batman to Dan Dare from The Eagle.

The disembodied metal hand is Louis Crandell, The Steel Claw (he's invisible).

The guy talking about the all-powerful eye is Tim Kelly from Kelly's Eye.

The squaddy looking for his guv'nor is Maggots Malone, batman to Captain Hurricane.

The bloke with the cigar and the hat is Major Eazy, an extremely laid back Carlos Ezquerra character from Battle.

Captain Hurricane was a British Commando and homicidal maniac originally from Valiant, but he was the Tharg-style editor of Battle at the time of this strip.

The robot with ARC on its chest is Robot Archie, you may remember him from the first Tharg's Future Shock (he was originally from Lion).

I don't know who the stripy thing in front of Rick Random is, or the bloke in the second to last panel who's 'finally going to die' is though.

Whoa.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 06 July, 2017, 12:34:29 pm
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In our thrilling forty-sixth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 150-153 of 2000 AD, covering February of 1980. Join us as we travel to the future to fight robots and aliens, to the past to fight alongside vampires and hang out with dinosaurs, fight the evil Judge Death, and DRINK THE BLOOD OF SATANUS! Also Conrad quotes classic poetry, or at least a version of classic poetry as performed on a popular 1990s sitcom.

Also I forgot to mention on the show but shout out to Judge Anon and their excellent series of articles about female judges in Judge Dredd (http://judgeanon.tumblr.com/post/138323182320/a-short-history-of-female-judges-in-judge-dredd), which I've shamelessly mined for jokes!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Tiplodocus on 06 July, 2017, 09:44:27 pm
All episodes should now be downloadable from the website! Let me know if something isn't working.

Thanks. Just downloaded another three.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 07 July, 2017, 08:00:33 am
I absolutely love your take on the British stuff!  Your comments about Patrick Moore had me laughing out loud in the street as I listened on my walk home from work. 'He's been presenting how long??  That's like, a thousand years!!'   Hahahahaha!!!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 07 July, 2017, 08:17:29 am
And that was before he became a cyborg in Gamesmaster.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: AlexF on 07 July, 2017, 12:11:16 pm
I'm a little behind and just finished listening to the Spinnies awards show for 1979. I think you're going to need some new categories going forward, becasue 'best art: Carlos Ezquerra' and 'best writing, Pat Mills tied with John Wagner' is going to be the result for, ooh, the next 40 years-worth of awards episodes...

Not to say that the other writers and artist on 2000AD aren't great, too, but man, those three dudes are SOOOO good, and so consistently thrilling, too! (YMMV on 1990s-era Pat Mills, but to you doubters, I say re-read and marvel at how much better it is than you might remember).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 07 July, 2017, 04:19:16 pm
I'm a little behind and just finished listening to the Spinnies awards show for 1979. I think you're going to need some new categories going forward, becasue 'best art: Carlos Ezquerra' and 'best writing, Pat Mills tied with John Wagner' is going to be the result for, ooh, the next 40 years-worth of awards episodes...

Not to say that the other writers and artist on 2000AD aren't great, too, but man, those three dudes are SOOOO good, and so consistently thrilling, too! (YMMV on 1990s-era Pat Mills, but to you doubters, I say re-read and marvel at how much better it is than you might remember).

That's why I have runners up for my awards, so that I can talk about the same couple guys! :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 10 July, 2017, 06:31:59 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/MBE2shI.jpg)

In our thrilling forty-seventh episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 154-158 of 2000 AD, covering March of 1980. Join us as we head out with Judge Dredd as he begins his quest to find the Judge Child, the there is political intrigue with the Robo-Hunter, and the hosts once again side with monsters against humanity at large in Fiends of the Eastern Front!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 10 July, 2017, 07:07:47 pm
and now we got the judge child quest ah good times
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: JLC on 10 July, 2017, 08:26:47 pm
sorry, found this podcast unlistenable.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 10 July, 2017, 08:47:03 pm
LOL, each to their own - I love it.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 13 July, 2017, 08:34:09 am
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In our thrilling forty-eighth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 159-162 of 2000 AD, covering April of 1980. Join us as we say goodbye to Captain Klep and the Fiends of the Eastern Front, and hello to returning thrills MACH Zero and Wolfie Smith. We'll also head off into deep space with both the VCs AND Judge Dredd! Also, this episode contains an easter egg for next episode, can you spot it?

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: skurvy on 13 July, 2017, 09:10:17 pm
I've pretty much just die-harded myself through the whole 50 episodes in a matter of weeks. Conrad and Fox, you ever thought about just going daily on this thing? I think we'd all be a lot happier.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 13 July, 2017, 10:38:57 pm
Ha ha! Definitely appreciate the kind words, though I think if we did that many shows you'd start getting diminishing returns three or four days in! Plus other folks are overwhelmed by our current output :D There's lots of fun stuff to come!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Vanilllahubby on 13 July, 2017, 11:41:19 pm
Three times a week maybe? Listening to the podcast has opened my eyes to thrills I
would normally skip or skim read e.g. mach zero and disaster 1990.
 As for that easter egg that's got me into a JAM. Keep up the awesome work and the dodgy English accents!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 15 July, 2017, 09:50:02 pm
Well damn your eyes, damn them.

There I was about to start listening to the first part of the Robin Smith interview from the Thrillcast as I'm falling behind (as ever, on my listening). Ironing Board out I pause and decide. Oh hold on no I'll just give that Space Spinner 2000 a try I've been meaning too for ages...

... do I start at the latest...

Or even the Prog 85 'jump on' podcast...

... No Mr Late to the Party here decided I should check out what they thought of the first Progs... and having bloody loved this finds himself with like a 90 podcast back log...

Bugger and a two part Robin Smith interview ... what is a boy to do.

Listened to the first two and loving the work fella. But unlike the others could you slow up for like a year so I can catch up?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 17 July, 2017, 01:59:08 pm
Well damn your eyes, damn them.

There I was about to start listening to the first part of the Robin Smith interview from the Thrillcast as I'm falling behind (as ever, on my listening). Ironing Board out I pause and decide. Oh hold on no I'll just give that Space Spinner 2000 a try I've been meaning too for ages...

... do I start at the latest...

Or even the Prog 85 'jump on' podcast...

... No Mr Late to the Party here decided I should check out what they thought of the first Progs... and having bloody loved this finds himself with like a 90 podcast back log...

Bugger and a two part Robin Smith interview ... what is a boy to do.

Listened to the first two and loving the work fella. But unlike the others could you slow up for like a year so I can catch up?

I can definitely empathize, my own podcast queue is pretty extensive! Don't worry, the show isn't going anywhere! Speaking of which...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 17 July, 2017, 02:00:22 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/wfdV7pd.jpg)

In our thrilling forty-ninth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 163-167 of 2000 AD, covering May, June and July of 1980. Join us as Dredd travels the spaceways, we get 6 times the Sam Slade, MACH Zero reunites with his son, and the Stainless Steel Rat begins his next quest, to save the world! Also we have a revelation about the nature of time travel, and how it relates to beating up bikers.

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Fungus on 17 July, 2017, 02:58:23 pm
As Colin says, please slow down. I think I'm on podcast 4.

The temptation to jump to the giddy heights of 1980 is tempting, though  :o
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 17 July, 2017, 06:11:25 pm
I've just listened to episodes one and two. It takes me ages to download them, what with living in a field and everything, but it's been worth it so far and I'm looking forward to catching up over the next few years. Great stuff!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 19 July, 2017, 06:31:52 pm
In our thrilling forty-ninth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 163-167 of 2000 AD, covering May, June and July of 1980. Join us as Dredd travels the spaceways, we get 6 times the Sam Slade, MACH Zero reunites with his son, and the Stainless Steel Rat begins his next quest, to save the world! Also we have a revelation about the nature of time travel, and how it relates to beating up bikers.

Please let me know what you think of the episode!

Waitaminute - you don't know who The Jam OR the Jams are?

I'd say that was madness, but I've previously discovered that Americans don't know who Madness are either...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 19 July, 2017, 06:41:33 pm
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Waitaminute - you don't know who The Jam OR the Jams are?

I'd say that was madness, but I've previously discovered that Americans don't know who Madness are either...

I can't speak for Fox, but my music knowledge in general in general is pretty poor, especially for pop music eras from before I was born/just a baby :D I'd hate for all Americans to be judged by my poor example!

Madness did that "Our House" song, right? ;)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 19 July, 2017, 10:21:51 pm
Well just finished 7 so I'm making ground and have to say its just great hearing folks new to the Prog (in one case - you don't expect me to remember which one of you do you!) having such fun with it.

I'm interested has this move you onto the current stuff or are you (see note above) sticking to the old stuff?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 19 July, 2017, 10:26:32 pm
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Waitaminute - you don't know who The Jam OR the Jams are?

I'd say that was madness, but I've previously discovered that Americans don't know who Madness are either...

I can't speak for Fox, but my music knowledge in general in general is pretty poor, especially for pop music eras from before I was born/just a baby :D I'd hate for all Americans to be judged by my poor example!

Madness did that "Our House" song, right? ;)

Not as good as Mutants in Mega-City One... ;)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 20 July, 2017, 12:08:46 am
Well just finished 7 so I'm making ground and have to say its just great hearing folks new to the Prog (in one case - you don't expect me to remember which one of you do you!) having such fun with it.

I'm interested has this move you onto the current stuff or are you (see note above) sticking to the old stuff?

Fox is the one who's new :D Though my (Conrad's) first hand experience with the product ends at around Prog 1000.

At the moment I don't think we'll jump around, we're having a ton of fun just going month to month, seeing things grow and expand organically. I would say that you should feel free to jump around if you have favorite stories that came out in this period, we've covered a couple of classics already, and there's no reason to feel bound to our format!

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Not as good as Mutants in Mega-City One... ;)

WHOA! And here I thought Anthrax had the only Judge Dredd song!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Pyroxian on 20 July, 2017, 09:51:00 am
WHOA! And here I thought Anthrax had the only Judge Dredd song!

Human League's 'I Am the Law' is one too.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: I, Cosh on 20 July, 2017, 10:04:37 am
I deeply regret not picking up a copy of this when I saw it in a Geneva record shop bargain bin.

(https://img.discogs.com/O47wG2NNes-qcARFl1Cvy7zEiDE=/fit-in/350x347/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1102014-1192135019.jpeg.jpg)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 20 July, 2017, 12:20:25 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/FxrLMkI.jpg)

In our thrilling fiftieth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with the 1980 Sci-Fi Special of 2000 AD. This Special contains the 2000AD premiere of both Alan Moore and Steve Dillon, and has some cool stories without a ton of filler. Thanks to all our listeners for helping us get to fifty episodes! Here's to a whole lot more!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 24 July, 2017, 03:55:52 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/AK4T2dv.jpg)

In our thrilling fifty-first episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 168-172 of 2000 AD, covering July and August of 1980. Join us as the Stainless Steel Rat saves the world, for the first time, but not the last time, Wolfie Smith opens an evil door, the Geeks go undercover, the robot war begins, and we trip balls on Oracle Spice!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 24 July, 2017, 04:17:09 pm
Funny Feet ice lollies were never one foot long, it's a 'one foot lolly' (which I'm pretty sure is cheating).

You wouldn't want one that big anyway, as they were horrible - chemical tasting ice cream that had the texture of cotton wool, if I recall.

I liked Wall's Fat Frog lollies (apple flavour shaped like a frog for some reason) but no one else seems to even remember them.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 24 July, 2017, 06:26:56 pm
Funny Feet ice lollies were never one foot long, it's a 'one foot lolly' (which I'm pretty sure is cheating).

You wouldn't want one that big anyway, as they were horrible - chemical tasting ice cream that had the texture of cotton wool, if I recall.

I liked Wall's Fat Frog lollies (apple flavour shaped like a frog for some reason) but no one else seems to even remember them.

That's one of the saddest things I've ever heard! I have to completely rethink my ice lolly strategy now, maybe the Incredible Hulk one? Of the alternate names for things starting with L that you guys have (Loo, Lorry, Lift, etc) I think calling popsicles ice lollies is my favorite :D

Oh, for everyone else, we're talking about this frequent advertisement in 2000AD circa summer 1980:
(http://i.imgur.com/cVbyMc1.png)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 24 July, 2017, 06:31:39 pm
Cruel lies told to children. You had sea monkeys, we had 1 foot lollies.

Besides, the best ones were the cider flavoured ones.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Pyroxian on 24 July, 2017, 09:24:03 pm
The Incredible Hulk lollies were pretty good (and came with a trading card IIRC), but they weren't as good as Dalek Death Rays :)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 24 July, 2017, 10:03:23 pm
Besides, the best ones were the cider flavoured ones.

Oh wow, I'd forgotten about those - just googled them - Lyons Maid Cider Barrel and Cider Quench ("the drink on a stick"). And it should be pointed out that in the UK cider isn't apple juice, but the preferred cheap strong alcohol of choice for underage kids, shouty tramps and functioning alcoholics of limited funds. But fine in lollies.

Don't get me started on chocolate smoker's sets in the Christmas stocking....
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 24 July, 2017, 10:14:23 pm
As I recall (see previous comments on my memory) Funny Feet melted really fast. Making their comsumption, even on a holiday camping on the Devon coast a feat (no pun intended... well okay just a little) a test of speed, skill and hand licking.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 24 July, 2017, 10:15:46 pm
Yeah on one hand you had Superman's anti-smoking ads, and the other Superman branded sweet cigarettes.

Sweet syringes seem even more iffy.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: skurvy on 24 July, 2017, 10:22:00 pm
Remember Top Deck? I loved the shandy and lager and lime ones but couldn't stand the cider one. Maybe because it wasn't as good as the real thing.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Fungus on 24 July, 2017, 10:48:25 pm
Funny Feet did indeed melt real fast. Bit insubstantial as a choice of lolly for that reason. This is tickling the far reaches of my memory banks!

Anyway. Listening to podcast 5 today and found the observation that sometimes Shako kills directly, and sometimes indirectly, very satisfying. Bravo! Also found the 'Shake'-O pronunciation odd, it's been 'Shack'-O for me. Based on nothing much of course. 'Shack'-'Zero' ?  :)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 24 July, 2017, 10:53:34 pm
Anyway. Listening to podcast 5 today and found the observation that sometimes Shako kills directly, and sometimes indirectly, very satisfying. Bravo! Also found the 'Shake'-O pronunciation odd, it's been 'Shack'-O for me. Based on nothing much of course. 'Shack'-'Zero' ?  :)

That must a temporary thing, because in my mind I definitely pronounce it as either "shack-o" or "sha-ko," or just generally with a soft a. Also, one of the key things about him is the many and varied ways he kills people, it's not just biting their heads off!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Fungus on 25 July, 2017, 12:30:15 am
Dang. You may be right. It's been a long day.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 25 July, 2017, 12:44:57 am
Dang. You may be right. It's been a long day.

No problem either way, I'm sensitive about pronunciation after learned that I mispronounced Gerry Finley-Day's name for like 40 episodes! D:
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 25 July, 2017, 08:21:40 am
Yeah on one hand you had Superman's anti-smoking ads, and the other Superman branded sweet cigarettes.

Sweet syringes seem even more iffy.

Sweet syringes sounds like a dangerous, yet promising business venture.

"Doctor, what's wrong with me!?"

"Looks like you've got SWEET TOOTH. But I've got the cure! Sweet Syringes. Get your fix with the stick that does the trick!"
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 25 July, 2017, 08:26:08 am
TBH, definitely better than these.

(http://itsugar.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/c/1camel_balls_amazon.jpg.jpeg)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SuperSurfer on 25 July, 2017, 12:08:41 pm
Oh wow, I'd forgotten about those - just googled them - Lyons Maid Cider Barrel and Cider Quench ("the drink on a stick").
Lyons Maid? Pah! They were what DC was to Marvel. Wall's Ice Cream was where it was at.

Anyone remember Count Dracula ice lollies? Would advertise heavily in Marvel UK comics on their luxurious glossy cover paper. The blood red jelly got sickly. I overdosed on these as I was collecting the stencil sticks.

(http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/resources/images/6391120.jpg?type=article-full)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-syzBGcIAEFM/Tdi7sp9sL6I/AAAAAAAAE4Y/lKGzU5ndzVU/s1600/Buster76-07-0321AdDraculalolly.jpg)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 27 July, 2017, 10:31:21 am
ChocoTacos?

(http://pearsonicecream.com/images/choco_taco%20b.png)

Otterpops?

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1283/4712670347_c9a0e00724_z.jpg)

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 27 July, 2017, 03:45:45 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/W8DgccO.jpg)

In our thrilling fifty-second episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 173-177 of 2000 AD, covering August and September of 1980. Join us as we clear the decks in advance of a thrill refresh in the second half of September! All thrills must end! (Except Judge Dredd, natch.)

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 27 July, 2017, 04:31:14 pm
Thanks Conrad - I have just finished listening to this.

I have a Stainless Steel Rat collection published by Rebellion but I can not see it on the 2000AD store so it must be out of print. Amazon have this page: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Harry-Harrison-Stainless-Steel-Paperback/dp/B00RWPR8CE/ref=sr_1_69?ie=UTF8&qid=1501165704&sr=8-69&keywords=Stainless+Steel+Rat .

The 2000AD shop does have a digital edition available though: https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/GRN378

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 27 July, 2017, 04:53:49 pm
The 2000AD shop does have a digital edition available though: https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/GRN378

Click on the 'paperback £15.99' icon and it says they have it in limited stock at the moment.  I admit it looks a bit like it's been greyed out as it's unavailable.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 27 July, 2017, 05:17:39 pm
Yeah, when I was looking things up for this episode I went on Google and just seemed to find the Eagle comics reprints from 1985, instead of the full collection. I don't know why I didn't think to check the Rebellion store to see if there were more recent collections! I did figure it out and mention it on an upcoming episode, but I'm going to make a special note on the Monday show, because I definitely regret this error, because I think SSR is great and everyone should check it out! :D Thanks for the help folks!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 27 July, 2017, 08:38:10 pm
Another good one guys. I've not read most of my old progs for years, but I've taken to skim-reading along with the podcast, so I'll get to do the 'prog-slog' I've been putting off for ages.

You're right that "hate is my eyes, Judge Dredd, and now you'll be my gun" is a very cool line, but I was sad you missed one of my all-time favourite Dredd lines a few pages earlier; to the ape-goons who try to mug Dredd for the reward money: "You creeps must think I sailed through space on a synthi-biscuit". Classic.
 
And If you don't mind a Dredd spoiler for something we don't find out for another thirty-something* years,  we learn that one of the very few personal mementoes that Dredd keeps in his appartment is Lopez' badge - to remind him that he was wrong, and that he should have taken the oracle spice. But there is no hint of it now
*citation needed

Oh, and if Fox is freaked ouit by Riunus Limpopop Quintz, he should come to London to check him out: http://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=39512.msg843388#msg843388 (http://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=39512.msg843388#msg843388)

Also, I don't think I ever really appereciated just what a dick Wolfie Smith was. I guess he DID look more like a cool rebel when you're 13!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 27 July, 2017, 09:47:23 pm
Well I'm about 12 or 13 in on these (onto the first Spinny, what you don't actually expect ME to remember what number that is do you) and have to say lovin' every minute. Its such a delight to here you evidently have such fun with the comic. Its infectious, unlike the self important posturing of other podcasts (well last time I listened to... ) this one remains a delight.

So like what I want to know after the creepin' and all is does anyone claim a spinny... or do I need to keep listening to find out?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 28 July, 2017, 05:08:20 am
So like what I want to know after the creepin' and all is does anyone claim a spinny... or do I need to keep listening to find out?

Unfortunately nobody has taken us up on our offer of hand-crafted golden frisbee awards, though I do currently have a bunch of them lying around the house in case one is claimed!

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And If you don't mind a Dredd spoiler for something we don't find out for another thirty-something* years

It's tough with stuff from way in the future, because I don't think that was a fact that was actually in Wagner/Grant's heads in 1980, you know? And part of the fun of the show for me is learning about and experiencing this stuff as it happens, without the weight of 30-odd years of the stuff that comes after it, if that makes sense.

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Also, I don't think I ever really appereciated just what a dick Wolfie Smith was. I guess he DID look more like a cool rebel when you're 13!

I've tried to make a point of this as we've read Wolfie, especially with this second story. To me it really feels like Wolfie plays very differently to a 10 or 12 year old vs some bitter guys in their 30s like me and Fox. Still, I feel like the big things that even experienced 2000AD fans have learned from our show is that Woflie Smith is a jerk and Dan Dare is VERY quick to destroy planets or wipe out sentient races :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 28 July, 2017, 10:17:20 am
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Also, I don't think I ever really appereciated just what a dick Wolfie Smith was. I guess he DID look more like a cool rebel when you're 13!

I've tried to make a point of this as we've read Wolfie, especially with this second story. To me it really feels like Wolfie plays very differently to a 10 or 12 year old vs some bitter guys in their 30s like me and Fox. Still, I feel like the big things that even experienced 2000AD fans have learned from our show is that Woflie Smith is a jerk and Dan Dare is VERY quick to destroy planets or wipe out sentient races :D

Mental Note: Make a compilation of all Dan Dare murder victims.

I miss Battle Action Playset Dan Dare, Conradical :C
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 28 July, 2017, 12:32:51 pm
It does feel that the space fort should be on the end of a genocidal 10-year old's arm in a hyper-active Kenner commercial.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 28 July, 2017, 12:53:46 pm
Oh wow, I'd forgotten about those - just googled them - Lyons Maid Cider Barrel and Cider Quench ("the drink on a stick"). And it should be pointed out that in the UK cider isn't apple juice, but the preferred cheap strong alcohol of choice for underage kids, shouty tramps and functioning alcoholics of limited funds. But fine in lollies.


I resent that remark!  And which of those three would the Wurzels (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzGkB6YO9Yc) it in to (recent official video of a 1970s song).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 28 July, 2017, 01:10:57 pm
Oh wow, I'd forgotten about those - just googled them - Lyons Maid Cider Barrel and Cider Quench ("the drink on a stick"). And it should be pointed out that in the UK cider isn't apple juice, but the preferred cheap strong alcohol of choice for underage kids, shouty tramps and functioning alcoholics of limited funds. But fine in lollies.


I resent that remark!  And which of those three would the Wurzels (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzGkB6YO9Yc) it in to (recent official video of a 1970s song).


What did I just watch? What is this? WHAT IS THIS MADNESS!?

I do kind of want some cider, though.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 28 July, 2017, 02:04:48 pm
Oh wow, I'd forgotten about those - just googled them - Lyons Maid Cider Barrel and Cider Quench ("the drink on a stick"). And it should be pointed out that in the UK cider isn't apple juice, but the preferred cheap strong alcohol of choice for underage kids, shouty tramps and functioning alcoholics of limited funds. But fine in lollies.


I resent that remark!  And which of those three would the Wurzels (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzGkB6YO9Yc) it in to (recent official video of a 1970s song).


What did I just watch? What is this? WHAT IS THIS MADNESS!?

I do kind of want some cider, though.

'Ave yersel a care, Sheridan, Wurzles baint fer the eyes o' furriners! Thems ud gives thur wurzels ta thur snobgrobbers an' eats thur manglewurzles themselfs!  Oh ah, thus'd make oi laff!

Anyway, that's nothing like Madness. This is Madness (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-uyWAe0NhQ)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 28 July, 2017, 07:43:30 pm
looking forward to your take on 178 onwards - this is my era (well, started with 195 as a regular, but all the stories from then are about to start!). Redondo is a fantastic artist, and Meltdown Man is hokey but also genius! Even Mean Arena caught my interest (possibly those Dillon drawn episodes!)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 28 July, 2017, 08:52:42 pm
Just listening to Episode 14 and Lucky and Jim (what like you expect me to remember Conrad's and Fox's names now) are about to talk about Visible Man... I've been so looking forward to this... happy days... well a good way to spend a Friday night for an old duffer who doesn't go down the pub any more.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 28 July, 2017, 09:11:25 pm
I re-read Mean Arena recently, I thought there was going to be more Dillon episodes, but it's just the Jensen Clan bit really.

Starts off OK, but seems to throw too much in there, and drops characters like the reporter who you think is going to play a larger role.

Listening to the podcast, I'd really like a collection of all the Ro-Jaws Robo-tales and the Tharg Stories.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 31 July, 2017, 09:03:06 am

'Ave yersel a care, Sheridan, Wurzles baint fer the eyes o' furriners! Thems ud gives thur wurzels ta thur snobgrobbers an' eats thur manglewurzles themselfs!  Oh ah, thus'd make oi laff!

Anyway, that's nothing like Madness. This is Madness (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-uyWAe0NhQ)

Ska!?!?! Well, that was a bit mad.

Just listening to Episode 14 and Lucky and Jim (what like you expect me to remember Conrad's and Fox's names now) are about to talk about Visible Man... I've been so looking forward to this... happy days... well a good way to spend a Friday night for an old duffer who doesn't go down the pub any more.

Visible man is factually gorgeous. Sometimes you just need to crash a wedding party and eat all the cake.

I re-read Mean Arena recently, I thought there was going to be more Dillon episodes, but it's just the Jensen Clan bit really.

Starts off OK, but seems to throw too much in there, and drops characters like the reporter who you think is going to play a larger role.

Listening to the podcast, I'd really like a collection of all the Ro-Jaws Robo-tales and the Tharg Stories.

Robo Tales collection, or Tharg Stories collection would be pretty mighty....

But it means hearing a lot of "BEEP BEEP BEEEEEP" -- which I'm all for hahaha
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 31 July, 2017, 02:31:49 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/aXTSInh.jpg)

In our thrilling fifty-third episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest comic with the 1981 2000 AD Annual (Annuals are dated by the following year). We've been pretty tough on annuals over the years, and this one has some pretty rough sections, but also has some extremely neat comics, articles, and features. For the first time ever we have two non-comics as the top thrill!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 31 July, 2017, 08:37:09 pm
Great stuff as usual. I had that annual 2 or 3 of years after it was released and remember it being okay but not as good as the subsequent years annuals.

I have no recollection at all of any of the re-print stuff discussed. From the sounds of it, you have to wonder if the editor even read the strips before picking them for inclusion. In 2000ad histories it is said that Sci Fi had a bad name in UK comics before 2000AD arrived (sports and war was where it was at) so perhaps it was stuff like this that earned that reputation.

The annuals should be good from now on though, and the first 2 Dredd annuals are a real treat. Do we get the 1981 Dredd annual SpaceSpinner 2000 next week? I can vividly remember much of it even after at least 30 years so I must have pored over it many times in my bored youth.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 31 July, 2017, 10:49:56 pm
The 1981 annual is both totally awesome and will. E covered on Thursday! We're saving the best for last!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Fungus on 31 July, 2017, 10:59:27 pm
Dredd Annual 1981 is vying with my first prog for pride of place if you order these things by sentimental value. Which you wouldn't do unless you were daft of course.

Been decades, but I think the pages are reasonably intact. Unlike my copy of 1982's. Wouldn't read that in a draughty room...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 01 August, 2017, 01:33:13 pm
Say, speaking of Labyrinth (as you were in... err... episode 49) with the idea that the Fireys strongly resemble the Aliens from Lesser Lingo, pretty much everything we see in Sarah's room turns up in some form or another in the Labyrinth, and she does have a copy of the Judge Dredd Boardgame sitting on a shelf, so maybe there was a copy of prog 164 lying around somewhere too.  And chronologically it's pretty close to the cover of prog 168 that can be spotted in The Princess Bride, too...

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 03 August, 2017, 03:04:36 am
Say, speaking of Labyrinth (as you were in... err... episode 49) with the idea that the Fireys strongly resemble the Aliens from Lesser Lingo, pretty much everything we see in Sarah's room turns up in some form or another in the Labyrinth, and she does have a copy of the Judge Dredd Boardgame sitting on a shelf, so maybe there was a copy of prog 164 lying around somewhere too.  And chronologically it's pretty close to the cover of prog 168 that can be spotted in The Princess Bride, too...

Whoa I never noticed either of those, but that's a good eye! Honestly I tend to think that most of these kinds of things are just happy coincidences instead of big movie guys stealing ideas from comics. Except for Jurassic Park, that's so clearly stolen from Judge Dredd it defies belief!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 03 August, 2017, 09:36:52 am
Pretty sure the dinosaur theme park thing had been done in a short story before either and had been mentioned as an inspiration for the one in Dredd.

Maybe this from 1969 - although it's giant robots than cloned animals?

http://prehistoricpulp.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/the-parasaurians-by-robert-wells-1969.html (http://prehistoricpulp.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/the-parasaurians-by-robert-wells-1969.html)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 03 August, 2017, 09:51:32 am
Reading a bit more, they're touted as robots, but the twist is they're cloned animals.

So before both JP and Cursed Earth.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 03 August, 2017, 11:53:16 am
Before we get too carried away the whole Cursed Earth is 'inspired' by Damnation Alley. So what goes around comes around.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 03 August, 2017, 01:07:32 pm
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In our thrilling fifty-fourth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest comic with the 1981 Judge Dredd Annual (Annuals are dated by the following year). It's the first Dredd Annual, after a few years of Dan Dare Themed ones. Join us for the first great 2000AD annual, featuring Dredd, the whole Dredd, and nothing but the Dredd!

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Also a quick programming note, for the next few weeks we'll only be doing one new show a week (on Mondays). But tune in Thursday for our Collection episodes, it's all our coverage of a specific storyline or thill all in one place. Of course we're starting next week with the Cursed Earth, but we will have some more personal favorites after that! I hope you did it!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 03 August, 2017, 04:40:56 pm
speaking of madness

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7LELj5SXn7A/U-N7EQCGmtI/AAAAAAAAJ2g/K4YJs7VYn6E/s1600/stron062.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-uyWAe0NhQ

one step beyond!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 03 August, 2017, 07:29:29 pm
That was a cracking episode - very funny indeed, especially the stuff about trans time and their horrific tour rosta. This annual must surely be up for some kind of Spinny award this time around.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 03 August, 2017, 07:48:06 pm
I'm going to have to dig out the annual.

I remember the trans-time thing being like an exploitation movie - early 2000AD big on genocide...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 03 August, 2017, 07:50:11 pm
I'm pretty sure very few in the UK had heard of Schlitz beer over here, or any american beers TBH, can't ever remember the ad making it over here.

Chalk that one down to John's US upbringing.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 03 August, 2017, 10:18:47 pm
Yeah, I didn't hear the commercial for years after- it was another one like Rogers & Hammerstein - "hey that sounds just like.... ohhh"
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 03 August, 2017, 10:42:46 pm
speaking of things movies ripped off shok....
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 04 August, 2017, 12:39:16 pm
I'm pretty sure very few in the UK had heard of Schlitz beer over here, or any american beers TBH, can't ever remember the ad making it over here.

Chalk that one down to John's US upbringing.

I assume it's a contemporary Laverne & Shirley reference, which I can vaguely remember seeing at the time and was set in the Milwaukee Schlitz Brewery.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 05 August, 2017, 08:32:49 pm
I find it interesting that Fox almost never picks Dredd as his favourite thrill - even in the JD annual. I can understand this as when I first discovered 2000AD Sam Slade would have been my top thrill. Dredd is fairly consistantly good though and this wins out over most other series which drop off at some point, even Sam Slade sadly.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 06 August, 2017, 06:09:53 pm
I can't speak for Fox, but I know I can be reluctant to pick long term thrills as top over things that might be going away soon. You can also see it in our early shows with Invasion, which didn't get a ton of tops despite being one of our all-time favorites because it ran for 50-some issues and was such a stalwart in the progs at the time. Dredd's evergreen nature can make it easy to overlook in favor of thrills with a more limited shelf life. But also Fox is weird and likes weird stuff, surely you can tell that from just listening to the show! :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 06 August, 2017, 06:18:10 pm
I'm going to have to dig out the annual.

I remember the trans-time thing being like an exploitation movie - early 2000AD big on genocide...

It's definitely one of those situations where there's a mini-apocalypse every month or so in MC-1 and when you list them one after another in a brochure or something it gets very grim very quickly!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 07 August, 2017, 08:25:49 am
I find it interesting that Fox almost never picks Dredd as his favourite thrill - even in the JD annual. I can understand this as when I first discovered 2000AD Sam Slade would have been my top thrill. Dredd is fairly consistantly good though and this wins out over most other series which drop off at some point, even Sam Slade sadly.

I actually noticed that myself a short time ago when listening back to the episodes. Not out of spite, but to be honest I'm a schlock addict and there's a lot in the progs so far. Most of the time I'm thinking within the bubble of the episode, and while JD always delivers on the thrillpower...It's hard not to see something so ridiculous and not hold it up. You can't just show me Fiends of the Eastern Front and not blow my mind.

I came into this with almost 0 understanding of the comic, and JD is someone I know from culture and less from substance. That substance is being filled in now, and the world they're spinning is one I'm much more bought into. This is the longest I've read comics for since I was maybe 15. Wouldn't be doing it if I didn't love it. :)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 07 August, 2017, 04:42:00 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/5rqHYW3.jpg)

In our thrilling fifty-fifth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 178-179 of 2000AD, covering September 1980. This episode is also designed for new listeners, with explanations about the nature of both the show and 2000AD. If you're interested in getting into either, this is a great place to start! As well as a recap and recommendations of thrills and episodes to listen to, this episode also marks the start of several classic 2000AD stories and the start of the dramatic climax to the Judge Child Saga!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 07 August, 2017, 09:38:14 pm
I came into this with almost 0 understanding of the comic, and JD is someone I know from culture and less from substance. That substance is being filled in now, and the world they're spinning is one I'm much more bought into. This is the longest I've read comics for since I was maybe 15. Wouldn't be doing it if I didn't love it. :)
I am really glad you are both enjoying it and hope it long continues. I would love it if Pat Mills listened to these podcasts as I think he would very much appreciate the perspective you guys have on it all, especially on the early progs from when he first launched the comic.

Please let me know what you think of the episode!

It's frickin' awesome!

'Save The Bomb!' is a reference to the commonly seen slogan in the 1980's of 'Ban The Bomb!'. There was quite a big anti-nuclear movement headed by an organisation called CND (Campaign for Nuclear Disarmement). I recently found out Americans associate it's symbol as the 'Peace symbol' instead of it being a anti-nuclear thing. This is probably because of its association with hippies in the 60's. The symbol is made up of the semaphone signs for 'N' and 'D' - Nuclear Disarmement.

The bit about UK comics not being varied while US stuff is mainly superheroes was well put and not lost on the UK readers of the time, I think. There are barely any UK super heroes and probably the most successful one was a comedy parody called Bananaman which had its own comic and TV show.

I am looking forward to the collections now. It will be easier to follow these with a collected trade than the regular shows are.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 07 August, 2017, 10:06:01 pm
We've gotten some support from folks like Mills and MacManus, which always gives me a fanboy freak out :) And yeah, I realized most listeners wouldn't be reading from old progs, some hopefully the collections will be a bit more digestible!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 08 August, 2017, 12:06:04 pm
Re free badge gift - a metal front with a safety-pin type back would always be referred to as a badge - pin would mean one of those small lapel ones with a spike and a back piece.

My opus of these progs have holes where I collected the Dredd tshirt tokens I could post pictures of how that Dredd tshirt looked when I rediscovered it last year - tight squeeze is an understatement!.

Another very enjoyable ep - loved the "when's he gonna melt?" bit  :lol:
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 08 August, 2017, 12:20:41 pm
"Copies" not opus  ::)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 09 August, 2017, 09:45:18 am
Dash Decent is a very odd thing - it's more or less a thinly disguised version of Kenny Everett's* Captain Kremmen sketches with all the smut taken out, even though a Kenny Everett sketch with all the smut taken out is pretty much five minutes of silence.  It's also possible that's where Tharg's name came from (Kremmen was often bothered by the Thargoids).

https://youtu.be/pyjKPbkkW9k (https://youtu.be/pyjKPbkkW9k)

*A ubiquitous 70's and early 80's British DJ and television personality - you may remember him as the DJ who appears on the first page of Terror Tube in prog 167.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 09 August, 2017, 12:40:38 pm
Re the Green Cross Man - I saw Dave Prowse give a talk recently and he says this is his proudest achievement - for 5 years he toured schools as well as doing the TV ads and the campaign halved child road deaths in the UK from 20,000 to 10,000 - for which he was later awarded a MBE by the Queen
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 09 August, 2017, 12:56:22 pm
And annoyed Fox.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 09 August, 2017, 04:33:38 pm
Dash Decent is a very odd thing - it's more or less a thinly disguised version of Kenny Everett's* Captain Kremmen sketches with all the smut taken out, even though a Kenny Everett sketch with all the smut taken out is pretty much five minutes of silence.  It's also possible that's where Tharg's name came from (Kremmen was often bothered by the Thargoids).

Dash Decent is like a giant sink hole of British pop culture stuff! I guess the lisping doctor Zellemy is based off and impression of a TV actor named Bellemy from a children's show called Tiswas? It's ridiculous!

Re the Green Cross Man - I saw Dave Prowse give a talk recently and he says this is his proudest achievement - for 5 years he toured schools as well as doing the TV ads and the campaign halved child road deaths in the UK from 20,000 to 10,000 - for which he was later awarded a MBE by the Queen

I keep trying to explain that kids don't naturally know how to cross the street safely! I'll again mention that as a kid in the US a few years after this we ABSOLUTELY had a bunch of things like the Green Cross Code, Fox is just a crazy person about this issue! :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 09 August, 2017, 04:59:28 pm
Dash Decent is like a giant sink hole of British pop culture stuff! I guess the lisping doctor Zellemy is based off and impression of a TV actor named Bellemy from a children's show called Tiswas? It's ridiculous!

David Bellamy was a botanist and TV presenter, and I think Lenny Henry used to do an impersonation of him on TISWAS - although I think TISWAS was a London only programme that most of the country never actually saw.  We were still getting repeats of The Banana Splits in my area (Southern) at the time.

Oh, and both he and Walter's speech impediments aren't lisps, it's a rhotacism.  Lithping characterth turn up eventhually, donth worry.

I keep trying to explain that kids don't naturally know how to cross the street safely! I'll again mention that as a kid in the US a few years after this we ABSOLUTELY had a bunch of things like the Green Cross Code, Fox is just a crazy person about this issue! :D

Well, at least no one actually dies in the Green Cross Code PIFs - if you want to show Fox some of the true horrors some of us had to sit through, you need to show him the dreaded Apaches https://youtu.be/UAQZaUixmpA (https://youtu.be/UAQZaUixmpA)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 09 August, 2017, 05:05:08 pm
Kind of.

Zellamy is a caricature of David Bellamy a British botanist/tv presenter - I guess the equivalent is a botany version of Neil Degrasse Tyson, but he was also a favourite (or favouwite) of impressionists, including Lenny Henry who did an impression of him on Tiswas, usually during a segment called Compost Corner.


https://youtu.be/TKn5otfZHxE?t=53 (https://youtu.be/TKn5otfZHxE?t=53) This clip will probably raise more questions than answers...

So...

Yes that is Phil Collins dressed as a sunflower
Crossroads was a daytime soap filmed in the same studios
Sandy was a character in a wheelchair in the soap...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 09 August, 2017, 05:10:41 pm
Dash Decent is like a giant sink hole of British pop culture stuff! I guess the lisping doctor Zellemy is based off and impression of a TV actor named Bellemy from a children's show called Tiswas? It's ridiculous!

David Bellamy was a botanist and TV presenter, and I think Lenny Henry used to do an impersonation of him on TISWAS - although I think TISWAS was a London only programme that most of the country never actually saw.  We were still getting repeats of The Banana Splits in my area (Southern) at the time.

Oh, and both he and Walter's speech impediments aren't lisps, it's a rhotacism.  Lithping characterth turn up eventhually, donth worry.

I keep trying to explain that kids don't naturally know how to cross the street safely! I'll again mention that as a kid in the US a few years after this we ABSOLUTELY had a bunch of things like the Green Cross Code, Fox is just a crazy person about this issue! :D

Well, at least no one actually dies in the Green Cross Code PIFs - if you want to show Fox some of the true horrors some of us had to sit through, you need to show him the dreaded Apaches https://youtu.be/UAQZaUixmpA (https://youtu.be/UAQZaUixmpA)

Tiswas was ATV/Central filmed in Birmingham - we got it in the midlands (before the volgs nuked it), I expect it was just midlands and London that had Tiswas to start with.

One of the presenters came to our school for some event and I had a home-made Darth Vader costume (for reasons I don't remember), he asked my Dad if he could make one for his son, and we ended up getting tickets to the studio.

All the parents were stuck in the cage to have water/stuff thrown at them, but my Dad got to hang out with the cast of Crossroads...

I won't bother trying to explain the dying fly or the phantom flan flinger...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 09 August, 2017, 06:28:38 pm
David Bellamy is immortalised in the prog more memorably when he appeared in Dredd as 'David Baloney' sometime around the 300s.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 09 August, 2017, 06:32:08 pm
We had Tiswas in darkest Lancashire - I remember Sally James's garters with particular fondness...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 09 August, 2017, 08:00:13 pm
This clip will probably raise more questions than answers...

 :lol: :lol: :lol:



We had Tiswas in darkest Lancashire - I remember Sally James's garters with particular fondness...

*sigh* Sally James...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 09 August, 2017, 08:18:13 pm
Just for you, DDD.


(http://www.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeek/files/styles/main_wide/public/images/14465.jpg?itok=0JecGcVj)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 10 August, 2017, 01:55:05 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/Fl4ys6E.png)

Judge Dredd heads out into the deadly wastes of the former United States in The Cursed Earth, the first in our series of Space Spinner Collections! These collections have all of our coverage for a specific character or storyline, all in one place. They're a great accompaniment to reading collected versions of 2000AD, or to just hear your favorite thrill all in one place.

This week we load up our Land Raiders to head to Mega-City 2, and fight all the mutants, giant rats, dinosaurs, and relics of the old world that get in our path.

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 14 August, 2017, 05:22:50 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/F9LkMsK.jpg)

In our thrilling fifty-sixth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 180-183 of 2000 AD, covering October of 1980. Join us as we finish the quest for the Judge Child, figure out how robots fit into the Mean Arena, and go to the vats with Meltdown Man! Also Johnny Alpha accepts a bounty on Hitler. LET THE SHOW BEGIN!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 14 August, 2017, 05:31:53 pm
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I'd mistakenly assumed teddy boys were solely influenced by 50s US Rock music, but it seems,  that the name stems from an Edwardian influence (shortened to Teddy), but then adopted aspects from the US.

http://www.edwardianteddyboy.com/page2.htm (http://www.edwardianteddyboy.com/page2.htm)

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 14 August, 2017, 06:04:32 pm
Well far from it taking me an age to get through these I'm fair pounding through them I'm finding them so enjoyable.

A recent camping trip saw me get to episode 42 and also reminded me of a question that I've been meaning to ask. You often to refer to things people might do if they are following along. Are you aware of people doing that. Has your infectious enjoyment... well infected people? Do you think you've got folks engaged with the Galaxies Greatest?

I'm sure I could do a little work, put some effort in and find out for myself from your various social media platforms... but you can't seriously expect a lazy ass like myself to do things for himself can you... after all I've still got another 15 or so episodes to catch up on...

... You chaps might sometimes have some crazy opinions - one day I will sit you down and if necessary beat your love of the hideous Disaster 1990 out of you... but man I'm loving your work. So before I forget thanks for all the fun times... as you American types seem to say... a LOT!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 14 August, 2017, 08:39:29 pm
David Bellamy was a botanist and TV presenter, and I think Lenny Henry used to do an impersonation of him on TISWAS - although I think TISWAS was a London only programme that most of the country never actually saw.  We were still getting repeats of The Banana Splits in my area (Southern) at the time.
I would have been either in the Anglia region or Midlands and I saw it.
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Oh, and both he and Walter's speech impediments aren't lisps, it's a rhotacism.  Lithping characterth turn up eventhually, donth worry.
Yeah, typically, people with (just) a lisp would be able to pronounce rhoticism pretty well, while people with a rhoticism would be able to pronounce lisp, but not the condition that they suffer from.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 14 August, 2017, 08:40:45 pm
David Bellamy is immortalised in the prog more memorably when he appeared in Dredd as 'David Baloney' sometime around the 300s.

Bob and Carol and Ted and Ringo, which is also a 1970s cultural reference...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 14 August, 2017, 08:41:45 pm
Re the Green Cross Man - I saw Dave Prowse give a talk recently and he says this is his proudest achievement - for 5 years he toured schools as well as doing the TV ads and the campaign halved child road deaths in the UK from 20,000 to 10,000 - for which he was later awarded a MBE by the Queen
Saving the lives of 10,000 children is truly something to be proud of.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 15 August, 2017, 12:24:06 am
Well far from it taking me an age to get through these I'm fair pounding through them I'm finding them so enjoyable.

A recent camping trip saw me get to episode 42 and also reminded me of a question that I've been meaning to ask. You often to refer to things people might do if they are following along. Are you aware of people doing that. Has your infectious enjoyment... well infected people? Do you think you've got folks engaged with the Galaxies Greatest?

I'm sure I could do a little work, put some effort in and find out for myself from your various social media platforms... but you can't seriously expect a lazy ass like myself to do things for himself can you... after all I've still got another 15 or so episodes to catch up on...

... You chaps might sometimes have some crazy opinions - one day I will sit you down and if necessary beat your love of the hideous Disaster 1990 out of you... but man I'm loving your work. So before I forget thanks for all the fun times... as you American types seem to say... a LOT!

I don't know how many (if any) new fans we've brought to the table. It can admittedly be a little difficult to actually follow along if you haven't managed to acquire copies of the comics somewhere. One thing we've just started doing are collections based around various graphic novel collections that can be purchased more easily. So far almost all of the people I've heard from have been old fans listening for nostalgia purposes, which is perfectly fine, imo. That said, we certainly appreciate being suggested to other people, we're still a growing podcast and every listener is great!

Also, while certainly not a top thrill, Disaster 1990 isn't THAT bad! It's a mid-level thrill and an action sequel in the purest sense (like Die Hard vs Die Hard 2). But memories of truly crappy thrills combined with fond memories of Invasion definitely made me give it a easy time.

Re the Green Cross Man - I saw Dave Prowse give a talk recently and he says this is his proudest achievement - for 5 years he toured schools as well as doing the TV ads and the campaign halved child road deaths in the UK from 20,000 to 10,000 - for which he was later awarded a MBE by the Queen
Saving the lives of 10,000 children is truly something to be proud of.

Definitely agree!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 15 August, 2017, 12:55:20 pm
Re the Green Cross Man - I saw Dave Prowse give a talk recently and he says this is his proudest achievement - for 5 years he toured schools as well as doing the TV ads and the campaign halved child road deaths in the UK from 20,000 to 10,000 - for which he was later awarded a MBE by the Queen
Saving the lives of 10,000 children is truly something to be proud of.

Definitely agree!

Of course, when I met him I was just disappointed that he wasn't dressed like Darth Vader.  And when I took his autograph home I compared it with the DV one I'd gotten in a toy shop a few years earlier and noted that the "Da"s in "Darth" and "Dave" did not match up (still got both of them somewhere, side by side in the pages of a book).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 15 August, 2017, 02:16:18 pm
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I'd mistakenly assumed teddy boys were solely influenced by 50s US Rock music, but it seems,  that the name stems from an Edwardian influence (shortened to Teddy), but then adopted aspects from the US.

http://www.edwardianteddyboy.com/page2.htm (http://www.edwardianteddyboy.com/page2.htm)

+++Spacespinner 2000 educational supplement+++

Wait, so as well as never getting glam rock, prog rock, punk, post punk, New Wave, New Romantic or the Ska/2-Tone movement, the US never got the early 80s Rockabilly Revival either? What else is there?!?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 15 August, 2017, 02:20:06 pm
I would have been either in the Anglia region or Midlands and I saw it.
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Yes, it looks like it was actually on in my area after all and I just never watched it (it does look pretty tedious, to be honest).  I don't recall watching Swap Shop, either - frankly, Noel Edmonds has always given me the creeps.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 15 August, 2017, 03:44:35 pm
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I'd mistakenly assumed teddy boys were solely influenced by 50s US Rock music, but it seems,  that the name stems from an Edwardian influence (shortened to Teddy), but then adopted aspects from the US.

http://www.edwardianteddyboy.com/page2.htm (http://www.edwardianteddyboy.com/page2.htm)

+++Spacespinner 2000 educational supplement+++

Wait, so as well as never getting glam rock, prog rock, punk, post punk, New Wave, New Romantic or the Ska/2-Tone movement, the US never got the early 80s Rockabilly Revival either? What else is there?!?

I'm not sure what we did and didn't get! I have trouble with this early 80s nostalgia because I was a baby during it! Definitely don't mistake my half-assed research for evidence of larger trends :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 18 August, 2017, 05:43:38 pm
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The world's most wanted polar bear is on the loose in Shako, the second in our series of Space Spinner Collections! These collections have all of our coverage for a specific character or storyline, all in one place. They're a great accompaniment to reading collected versions of 2000AD, or to just hear your favorite thrill all in one place.

This week we head to frozen north and the dawn of 2000AD as murderous bear Shako evades and destroys everything the CIA can throw at him! Listen to his adventures, and learn why Shako makes King Kong look like a pet chimp!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 18 August, 2017, 06:49:36 pm
Wot no Invasion?

Great stuff from Shako, and you guys really have a fresh perspective on this. I haven't read it and don't have access to it but I had alwats assumed it was a bit of a damp squib, seeing as though it wasn't considered good enough for the launch lineup.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 18 August, 2017, 06:52:11 pm
[shameless self-promotion dept]If you like polar bears and you like hyper-powered secret agents, get yourself a copy of Issue 22 of Zarjaz, the 2000AD fanzine, and marvel at the M.A.C.H. 1 - Shako crossover![/shameless self-promotion dept]
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 18 August, 2017, 07:22:50 pm
We moved Invasion back a bit because I'm also talking about it on the Mega City Bookclub podcast, and thought it would be fun to make the week of September 10th Invasion Week!

Also, I'd definitely consider Shako a forgotten classic, despite its reputation!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Bolt-01 on 19 August, 2017, 12:33:20 pm
Heck, Shark- we've got much more Polar Bear action than just Zarjaz #22

(http://www.futurequake.co.uk/imagebucket/CoverWebbies/CoverZ2.22Mini.jpg)

Shop Link (http://www.futurequake.co.uk/zarjaz/zarjaz-22/), Contents link (https://futurequake.wordpress.com/2014/11/02/zarjaz-22/)

We also have:
(https://futurequake.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/c1c88-shakoblo.jpg)
SHAKO- Snack Attack by Richmond Clements and Bryan Coyle (https://futurequake.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/shako-snack-attack/)

Also- Judge Dredd- The Right to arm Bears Pdf link (http://www.futurequake.co.uk/imagebucket/Downloads/JD-TheRightToArmBears.pdf) by Lee Robson and Bryan Coyle...

I see a pattern here.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 19 August, 2017, 03:48:23 pm
Woo-hoo!

Or should I say, ggrraaaargghh!!!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 19 August, 2017, 06:55:58 pm
This is important information that I am excited to act upon! SHAKO 4 EVA
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 19 August, 2017, 07:20:15 pm
Also, I'd definitely consider Shako a forgotten classic, despite its reputation!

Oh, I think that Shako is fondly remembered by those who read it the first time around - most of us first saw it as a much hacked about reprint in one of the annuals, which didn't do it any favours.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 19 August, 2017, 07:29:08 pm
Also, I'd definitely consider Shako a forgotten classic, despite its reputation!

Oh, I think that Shako is fondly remembered by those who read it the first time around - most of us first saw it as a much hacked about reprint in one of the annuals, which didn't do it any favours.

Yeah defo. While its no Flesh (but then what is) I do think its considered one of the early jewels in Tharg's crown. Certainly when I've discussed it here the thoughts of folks joining in has been overwhelmingly positive.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 19 August, 2017, 09:15:43 pm
It was one of my favourites too, although I must admit that as a sharkling I mispronounced the name as Shake-oh, which grizzled old me still thinks sounds better, somehow.

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: TordelBack on 19 August, 2017, 09:20:12 pm
It was one of my favourites too, although I must admit that as a sharkling I mispronounced the name as Shake-oh, which grizzled old me still thinks sounds better, somehow.

You're not alone there, Shark-oh. Although I hear Pat maintains it's actually pronounced ''Shawk-nya'.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 19 August, 2017, 09:29:33 pm
"Shawk-nya" - brilliant, now I have hot chocolate all over my chin!

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 20 August, 2017, 05:04:49 pm
You're not alone there, Shark-oh. Although I hear Pat maintains it's actually pronounced ''Shawk-nya'.

What! This information is making me question everything I believe! Even more so than learning that M.A.C.H. 1 is pronounced "Mack 1" instead of "Mock 1." But somehow less than learning that it's "Jerry" Finley-Day instead of "Gary" Finley-Day. Pronouncing things is hard!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 20 August, 2017, 05:26:57 pm
I used to mispronounce MACH 1 too. I called it "Match 1."

No wonder I is become an writist...

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 20 August, 2017, 06:02:33 pm
You're not alone there, Shark-oh. Although I hear Pat maintains it's actually pronounced ''Shawk-nya'.

What! This information is making me question everything I believe! Even more so than learning that M.A.C.H. 1 is pronounced "Mack 1" instead of "Mock 1." But somehow less than learning that it's "Jerry" Finley-Day instead of "Gary" Finley-Day. Pronouncing things is hard!

In case you don't know he's just messing with you...

The pronunciation of Sláine should be Slawnya rather than the more common Slain and that comes up occasionally.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 20 August, 2017, 06:37:48 pm
Just listened to the Cursed Earth Episode (Jez I've almost caught up - how the hell did that happen!) and while I tend not to buy trades of comics I already own it appears I like listening to Pod casts of stuff I've already heard. Nice work, well edited together and with the 'Introduction' and the 'Bonus Material' at the end it really worked. Really looking forward to the Shako one now... but I hope to have something cute to  go with that ... we'll see.

Anyway Conrad raises a very interesting question about the Cursed Earth I misquote.

"Can Cursed Earth be considered the greatest Dredd story since its missing that vital character of Mega City One".

 To which I answer yes... I'm not sure it is... but it might be.

See the absense of Mega City One for me defines it as a Dredd story, its about Joe Dredd the person, not Judge Dredd the impecible upholder of the law. Away from the system that defines his actions we get to see Dredd the man. As has often been said it shows a far more heroic Dredd, a more traditional hero character. That though is who Dredd is as a man. Sure he's hard, mean, surly bastard, but the man himself is an out and out hero. He's determined, indefatigable but released from the city and the law that so shapes him we see that yes indeed he's a relentless pursuer of justice in its real sense, rather than the justice as defined by Mega City Law.

You comment on the fact that during this story we see the look if Dredd defined, I'd also say we fully realise the character of Dredd too, unbound by the system that shapes him. So for me you could argue that its the best story about Joe Dredd rather than Judge Dredd...

... oh and you know kick ass dinosaurs - so that's double value!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 21 August, 2017, 04:42:42 am
Dinos make everything better, that is a fact!

I think I mostly agree with what you're saying about the Cursed Earth. It's very important as the FIRST Dredd epic to really solidify what we like about the character and to define him going forward. I'm pretty sure in a couple places that the Cursed Earth is where Dredd becomes Dredd. I don't actually have a favorite epic to suggest instead of the Cursed Earth, but I love Mega City One and all of its ridiculousness so much that I just can't make a story that mostly takes place outside of it my number one, you know? Right now from what we've done on the show my Dredd epic rankings are:
1. <Vacant>
2. Cursed Earth
3. Judge Child
4. Judge Cal
A lot of me making a big deal about this is from right when they announced the Mega City One TV show, and there were a ton of articles suggesting Dredd storylines to be adapted to the small screen, and the Cursed Earth is always the top one. I really disagree with that, because to me you have to spend time building up the city before you can leave it, otherwise there's no contrast or sense of adventure or whatever. I dunno, just my random mumblings really :D

It's awesome you've caught up though! I listen to a lot of podcasts and it's always both cool and depressing to get caught up on a show, because suddenly you're getting drip-fed episodes. I'm glad you like the collections also, they are a blast to make if you're like me and love laughing at your own jokes :D Thanks for sticking with us!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 21 August, 2017, 04:54:06 pm
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In our thrilling fifty-seventh episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 184-188 of 2000 AD, covering November of 1980. Join us as we meet a new entrepreneur on the scene of Mega-City 1, the Strontium Dogs go on travels with Hitler, the revolt begins in Meltdown Man, and we get thrown in the deep end immediately as we Return to Armageddon!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 21 August, 2017, 07:51:30 pm

A lot of me making a big deal about this is from right when they announced the Mega City One TV show, and there were a ton of articles suggesting Dredd storylines to be adapted to the small screen, and the Cursed Earth is always the top one. I really disagree with that, because to me you have to spend time building up the city before you can leave it, otherwise there's no contrast or sense of adventure or whatever. I dunno, just my random mumblings really :D


Yes this is absolutely spot on.

As much as I love Cursed Earth a rigidly indecent amount, to launch a show called Judge Dredd - Mega City One with it would be kinda missing the point. I mean the clues on the title. That's not to say it wouldn't work on telly, far from it. But in a show called Judge Dredd MEGA CITY ONE... take the hint huh!

Now if they launch a spin-off I'm down with that... now a good launch story for the show might well be covered in your current pod-cast... though you might want to break in the craziness a little easier than good old Otto? That kinda turning the crazy straight to 11!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 25 August, 2017, 02:19:53 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/KFVycit.png)

The pilot of the future blasts off as Dan Dare and his band of space criminals head off for the Lost Worlds in the third in our series of Space Spinner Collections! These collections have all of our coverage for a specific character or storyline, all in one place. They're a great accompaniment to reading collected versions of 2000AD, or to just hear your favorite thrill all in one place.

This week we head to back to the very early days of 2000AD, and to deep space as English legacy space explorer Dan Dare returns to 2000AD after a brief retooling, and proceeds to have a bunch of awesome space adventures! Check it out, and learn why the "Battle Action Playset" era is our favorite Dan Dare!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 29 August, 2017, 09:14:05 pm
surprised the new ep wasn't posted here but you do know emberton was one of ian gibsons pen names right?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 29 August, 2017, 10:11:43 pm
I've been out of town and away from my computer with all the links and stuff I use to make show posts, will have it up momentarily. Usually I try to say something like "Ian Gibson drawing as Emberton" or something like that, Sorry if I missed it that time!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 29 August, 2017, 10:17:04 pm
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In our thrilling fifty-eighth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 189-192 of 2000 AD, covering December of 1980. Join us as we fight space zombies in Return to Armageddon, party hard with Johnny Alpha and Wulf, hit a pit stop with Judge Dredd, and consult with Abelard Snazz about Robots! Also, this is the month podcast host Conrad born! Hooray!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 30 August, 2017, 02:12:22 pm
You may remember Milton Keynes from Superman IV: The Quest for Peace where it played the part of Metropolis.

And no one says the z-word in Return to Armageddon - to such an extent that I rather suspect that they were forbidden from using it!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 30 August, 2017, 06:19:09 pm
And no one says the z-word in Return to Armageddon - to such an extent that I rather suspect that they were forbidden from using it!

That's a good point! Here in the States we had a formalized comics code that outlawed a lot of stuff like that (industry self-policing so the government doesn't step it). It had a lot of stuff related to horror comics, including zombies, because of the anti-comics moral panics of the 1950s. I know it also outlawed realistic pictures of guns, which is why most DC and Marvel superheroes fight high-tech bad guy groups, because they could draw all the ray guns they wanted!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 30 August, 2017, 07:13:11 pm
There wasn't an official code over here - closest were the likes of Mary Whitehouse, or tabloid outrage (see Action) (Mary Whitehouse = Marjorie Blackshack in the Dredd Exo-men story)

I think it was more actions that could be imitated by kids that was a problem, rather than horror in general - although the upcoming SD story with Bubo got some flak over people being eaten.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 30 August, 2017, 09:08:39 pm
The kids were wondering it was I was listening and snigger too over the last month or so. I played it cool, after all I'd tried to hook the kids into 2000ad a few times with little success. Anyway I told them it was just about my comics.Then a little about the stuff I they were talking about (not that I let them listen to it as you chaps are such fuckin' potty mouths!*). Finally me and the boy child discussed the positives of killer bears in comic form after I snorted at the Shako collection.

So shortly after listening to the Shako 'trade' I sat down with my 5 year old (same age as I was when I first came across Shako) and we read it together. I was a little nervous, cos ya know its pretty full on violence wise*... but it didn't do me any harm... well much... well maybe I should let others judge that... anyway he bloodly lapped it up. He looked a little nervous a few times but was desperate for me to carry on so I did and we'd licked it in two sittings.

Flesh is next up for him AND Otto Stump and a greatest hits from Case Files 1 has broken my 8 year daughter too. We're getting her straight to Cursed Earth next.

Arh Space Spinner 2000 the podcast that brings families together!

*Its so weird that I worry about letting my kids hear shitty fuckin' bastard twat language. Yet actively encourage them engaging with a polar bear ripping into into a variety of folks in increasing entertainly horrible ways!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 31 August, 2017, 12:12:48 am
That is amazing! I'm super proud to be part of getting a new generation into 2000AD, no matter how tangentially :D Sorry about the language, when we started the show I considered asking Fox to try to keep it all G-rated, but decided that that losing battle wasn't even worth fighting
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 31 August, 2017, 12:27:57 pm
I tried to give a review using an iPhone but couldn't get it to work. I gave it 5 stars, wrote a few nice sentances, prodded the 'Send' text and entered a nickname but nothing happens. I can either keep prodding the word 'Send', which does nothing, or go for 'Cancel' which takes me back to the existing reviews list.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 31 August, 2017, 02:28:04 pm
That's very odd! I will look into it ASAP!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 31 August, 2017, 06:52:04 pm
... considered asking Fox to try to keep it all G-rated, but decided that that losing battle wasn't even worth fighting

Damn fucking straight its not worth it.

Glad you didn't it adds to the sense of passion! Don't want to kids to actually get as nerdy as me and listen to things like this!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 31 August, 2017, 08:10:57 pm
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In our thrilling fifty-ninth episode Fox and Conrad take a break from reviewing weekly progs to reminisce on the whole of 2000 AD comics for the year 1980. It's a chance to reflect, review, and give out awards! Welcome to the 1980 Spinnies! At the end of every chronological year in our prog timeline we'll give out awards to the storylines and thrills we liked best over the last year.

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 01 September, 2017, 10:06:53 am
The fourth annual Spinnies! Where do the years go?

But guys, when choosing one song to represent the British charts in 1980 the best you could find was Grandma? Sheesh.  And Fox choosing an annual as top thrill? Surely the end-times are upon us!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 01 September, 2017, 12:19:03 pm
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Fiends of the Eastern Front should be a movie!

They did produce this when the hardback collected edition came out...

https://youtu.be/5cB1LWzZz8c (https://youtu.be/5cB1LWzZz8c)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 01 September, 2017, 08:15:02 pm
But guys, when choosing one song to represent the British charts in 1980 the best you could find was Grandma? Sheesh.  And Fox choosing an annual as top thrill? Surely the end-times are upon us!

It's really an amazing turn around with the Dredd annual, a testament to McManus's efforts!

I always choose a top british single from the month being covered, and count the Spinnies as a December month, so we got Super Trooper and Grandma. Maybe I should make the Spinnies song the #1 single from the year? (For '80 it would have been "Don't Stand So Close to Me") To be honest though I'll take any opportunity to do something like Grandma, a super niche pop song that can only be sung with an English accent, like when we did "Matchstalk Men and Matchstalk Cats and Dogs" for April '78. I always appreciate local color!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 01 September, 2017, 08:31:59 pm
But guys, when choosing one song to represent the British charts in 1980 the best you could find was Grandma? Sheesh.  And Fox choosing an annual as top thrill? Surely the end-times are upon us!

It's really an amazing turn around with the Dredd annual, a testament to McManus's efforts!

I always choose a top british single from the month being covered, and count the Spinnies as a December month, so we got Super Trooper and Grandma. Maybe I should make the Spinnies song the #1 single from the year? (For '80 it would have been "Don't Stand So Close to Me") To be honest though I'll take any opportunity to do something like Grandma, a super niche pop song that can only be sung with an English accent, like when we did "Matchstalk Men and Matchstalk Cats and Dogs" for April '78. I always appreciate local color!

I think you mean colour <ahem>  :lol:
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 01 September, 2017, 08:35:18 pm
Snap!

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 01 September, 2017, 08:58:05 pm
I stand by my regional spelling!  :lol:
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Andy B on 02 September, 2017, 01:59:36 am
Loving this podcast, and rereading all the stuff you guys are talking about.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 02 September, 2017, 09:10:31 pm
Thanks! Glad you are enjoying it!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 04 September, 2017, 03:45:32 pm
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In our thrilling sixtieth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 193-197 of 2000 AD, covering January of 1981. Join us as we meet some old friends as the Fink comes to Mega-City One, learn the history of street football and the Mean Area, beat some bad boys with Strontium dog, and melt down with...Return to Armageddon?

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 04 September, 2017, 04:36:50 pm
It's possible that the second Dredd tale in prog 195 is there because Dredd himself doesn't actually appear in part three of The Fink, and they might have felt the need to add another one because the comic is now called '2000 AD featuring Judge Dredd'...

It does look a bit of a rush job.

It is a reasonably accurate depiction of Southampton in Mean Arena, albeit Southampton from circa 1979.  It had been almost completely levelled by bombing during the second world war, and had been rebuilt in a hideous Brutalist style throughout the sixties and seventies - however, they spent the eighties and nineties systematically demolishing it all again so it doesn't remotely look like that any more.  There's also no giant stone memorial to Kevin Keegan (so far).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 04 September, 2017, 04:38:02 pm
Ah - prog 195 was my first regular prog! Looking forward to this one!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 05 September, 2017, 03:45:26 am
It's possible that the second Dredd tale in prog 195 is there because Dredd himself doesn't actually appear in part three of The Fink, and they might have felt the need to add another one because the comic is now called '2000 AD featuring Judge Dredd'...

It does look a bit of a rush job.

It is a reasonably accurate depiction of Southampton in Mean Arena, albeit Southampton from circa 1979.  It had been almost completely levelled by bombing during the second world war, and had been rebuilt in a hideous Brutalist style throughout the sixties and seventies - however, they spent the eighties and nineties systematically demolishing it all again so it doesn't remotely look like that any more.  There's also no giant stone memorial to Kevin Keegan (so far).

That's an interesting theory about the extra Dredd comic in 195. It's art isn't helped by the fact that it's one of the first times Gibson had drawn for Dredd in the progs and it opens with a fish-eye view of him. Like I say in the show, that image especially looks like a parody of a McMahon Dredd.

The Southampton stuff is interesting, I assumed it was just "generic urban dystopia" like the warehouse/abandoned factory  districts that most superhero fights take place in.

Ah - prog 195 was my first regular prog! Looking forward to this one!

I hope you think we do it justice!

I also want to say that I am on the edge of my seat for our 1981 coverage, there's so much awesome stuff happening in the progs this year, as well as a bunch of really great show milestones!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 09 September, 2017, 12:25:41 am
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Spread the Word! Hammerstein and his team of meknificent robots arrive on Mars in the fourth in our series of Space Spinner Collections! These collections have all of our coverage for a specific character or storyline, all in one place. They're a great accompaniment to reading collected versions of 2000AD, or to just hear your favorite thrill all in one place.

This week we'll roll out with the ABC Warriors, going from the end of the Volgan War to the fontiers of the red planet as an awesome robot team is assembled and then begins it's super awesome mission! The story of the ABC Warriors is truly classic 2000AD and must be experienced. Once you do you too will be ready to SPREAD THE WORD!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Buttonman on 09 September, 2017, 09:16:38 am
Late to the party and slowly catching up - I listen to then while out running and the miles just slip away. After some initial reservations I've even started to like the air horn and Fox saying 'Snap' all the time.

I like the detailed synopses of stories I can barely remember and visualizing the old strips whilst hearing your mad keen descriptions.

You should spend more time analyzing the letters however. The letters are important. I have a database.

Overall great stuff and thanks for your continued efforts.

Tiny error : You have three or four episodes on iTunes that say the music is 'Xanadu' by ELO - I use the songs as a point of reference to delete the ones I have listened to off my ipod - the music on the actual episode is different from Xanadu but I guess that's just the perils of cut and paste! Good tune though!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 09 September, 2017, 04:07:07 pm
Late to the party and slowly catching up - I listen to then while out running and the miles just slip away. After some initial reservations I've even started to like the air horn and Fox saying 'Snap' all the time.

I like the detailed synopses of stories I can barely remember and visualizing the old strips whilst hearing your mad keen descriptions.

You should spend more time analyzing the letters however. The letters are important. I have a database.

Overall great stuff and thanks for your continued efforts.

Tiny error : You have three or four episodes on iTunes that say the music is 'Xanadu' by ELO - I use the songs as a point of reference to delete the ones I have listened to off my ipod - the music on the actual episode is different from Xanadu but I guess that's just the perils of cut and paste! Good tune though!

We all have our little storytelling quirks! If you check out our social media feeds I try to post some art from all the thrills we cover, just to help remind folks of the excellent visuals!

It's a hard balance talking about the input pages, I agree that they are important and worth discussing, but in our current timeline it's often two pages of letters and the show is already getting longer and longer. I'm trying to compromise by talking about at least one letter specifically per prog and trying to summarize the rest.

Also that's a great catch about Xanadu showing up everywhere, I think I've caught them all and fixed it. We're all imperfect people, except for Tharg, who isn't really a person in the first place!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 09 September, 2017, 04:15:52 pm
The music really sets the scene, if only you could have a scratch and sniff card of whatever deranged flavour crisps/ice lollies/racist sweets it would really transport us to the 70s/80s.

I wouldn't mind seeing the odd scan of the reader art, especially the dirty low-down cheatin' tracers...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 09 September, 2017, 04:32:36 pm
I wouldn't mind seeing the odd scan of the reader art, especially the dirty low-down cheatin' tracers...

we can't be too far away from the shamelessly copied picture of a Beholder from the D&D Monster Manual by A Janes -I was at school with him and it was sooo good when another reader called him out and Tharg denounced him!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 09 September, 2017, 04:46:43 pm
Haha, so that was the person behind Tharg and the cheat?

Thankfully, my 2 art contributions weren't traced, although the first one looked pretty much like a lanky yoda in a dress, and the other one was just a desperate attempt to find a Tharg that hadn't been done yet.

I ended up with Tharg the ZX Spectrum... which no doubt earned me a kicking at school.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 09 September, 2017, 05:42:08 pm
I hate tracers SO MUCH! It's hard with the non-2000AD stuff, determining what's done by a kid that's good at art and what's just traced from another comic or sci-fi book. From what I could put together, Tharg and the Cheater was about this picture of a space pirate from Prog 149

(https://i.imgur.com/n1UOjcV.png)

If anyone reading this was published in the nerve center and wants a shout out, let me know! Otherwise I'm just generally on the look out for familiar names (for instance a Warren Ellis, possibly THE Warren Ellis, make s a couple apperances in the Nerve Center in 1981).

I'm thinking of making some best/worst posts for when we reach our one year anniversary next month, and reader art seems like a good topic!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 09 September, 2017, 05:48:48 pm
If anyone reading this was published in the nerve center and wants a shout out, let me know! Otherwise I'm just generally on the look out for familiar names (for instance a Warren Ellis, possibly THE Warren Ellis, make s a couple apperances in the Nerve Center in 1981).

It is THE Warren Ellis, I believe (but it's apparently a different Chris Chibnall who responds to him).  You've already missed a couple of big name Art Droids making their 2000AD début in the Nerve Centre, but keep your eyes open!  You even mention Adrian Salmon (in prog 9 or something) by name without realising he's later converted into a droid.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 09 September, 2017, 05:49:54 pm
and if you fail to give a shout out to Stephen Watson of Paisley's debut letter (AKA Buttonman, above), he'll never forgive you!

There was a thread here called "Letters to the Green Dude" featuring famous people's early letters and pics, but it seems to have vanished from the archive - it's name-checked here https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=21716.msg371479#msg371479 (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=21716.msg371479#msg371479) but the link goes nowhere.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 09 September, 2017, 05:51:52 pm
Ah I wondered what it was, no idea what the original was of - maybe Prince Barin from Flash Gordon?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 09 September, 2017, 07:51:42 pm
Argh how embarrassing! The 2000ad forums are so important for keeping me humble ;)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 11 September, 2017, 05:40:04 pm
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In our thrilling sixty-first episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 198-201 of 2000 AD, covering February of 1981. Join us as Judge Dredd fights pirates and sows the seeds of the Apocalypse War, we get into showbiz with Return to Armageddon, we meet some animal brigands in Meltdown Man, and we start an amazing new story with Strontium Dog, Portrait of a Mutant!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 11 September, 2017, 05:44:46 pm
Pity poor Pole-Axe, who came up with an awesome pun based name (he's a POLAR BEAR with an AXE! He's POLE-AXE!) thus becoming 2000 AD's second most famous homicidal polar bear, whilst simultaneously becoming the second axe-wielding bear character after Ursa from Blackhawk.

Bet he fired his agent after that.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 11 September, 2017, 06:01:36 pm
Pity poor Pole-Axe, who came up with an awesome pun based name (he's a POLAR BEAR with an AXE! He's POLE-AXE!) thus becoming 2000 AD's second most famous homicidal polar bear, whilst simultaneously becoming the second axe-wielding bear character after Ursa from Blackhawk.

Bet he fired his agent after that.

I like to imagine that Pole-Axe IS Shako, like how in the Disney Robin Hood movie Little John is played by Baloo from the Jungle book. Like he'd been hanging around 2000AD central casting for a few years and Tharg took pity on him! That's why he gets his own cover, unlike the rest of the Meltdown Man cast ;)

It is rough though, Pole-Axe comes in as a "big guy" character in a strip that already has both T-Bone (a cool minotaur) and Tiger Commander (an awesome tiger dude) how can he compete?!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 11 September, 2017, 06:37:07 pm
Still loving this, guys.

One minor correction - Corn O'Connor, isn't based on cheesy gameshow host Des O'Connor, but cheesy gameshow host TOM O'Connor (http://www.tomoconnor.co.uk/), who had a segment called "Name that Tune" in one of his TV comedy shows (hence, Name that Crime) - the teeth are a giveaway.

Also, whilst there are occasional cross references between the Dredd and Strontium Dog universes, it's best not to think of them co-existing in the same time-line because the history doesn't make any sense - too many nuclear wars in all the wrong years. Wagner's attitude was always "I'm the writer, I can make up anything I want to make a story work" and he's often said they are separate. The "Millsverse" (Invasion, Ro-Busters, ABC Warriors) just about fits into the Dredd timeline, if you ignore few minor inconsistencies, like how nobody in Dredd's world ever mentions Volgs.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 11 September, 2017, 07:17:38 pm
What are the too many nuclear wars in all the wrong years?

Regarding the connections, other writers seem more interested in making SD part of the same universe than John does. Al Ewing in 'The Americans' and Michael Carroll in the recent one with NBK.

John seems to use it as just a bit of fun, but he is rather wanting to have it both ways - his Top Dogs story relies on Alpha's future being the same as Dredd's future - as does By Private Contract.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 11 September, 2017, 07:27:02 pm
ah, I'm not going to derail the thread by going into all that again - the topic's been done to death elsewhere, but the Britain we see in Portrait of a Mutant is only a few years after Dredd's (current) time and bears no resemblance to the Brit-Cit of Dredd's world. I suppose you could fit multiple wars into the timeline just about, but the nuclear war/post apocalyptic world scenarios in both strips do seem to be from completely different narratives.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 11 September, 2017, 07:45:32 pm
I'm definitely not planning on nitpicking or getting to crazy about the interconnectivity or causality of the various 2000AD thrills, that's not fair to the guys writing 30-some years ago who had no idea they'd have to account for it all in the distant future of 2017! I mostly mention it in the start of Portrait because I'd just read the Megazine with Kreelman and thought it was pretty neat so it was high in my mind.

Personally I tend to see all 2000AD causality the same way I see it on Doctor Who, where mentions of other stories or events are more like fun easter eggs instead of a crazy Marvel Cinematic Universe style interconnected house of cards. It'd be really neat if 27 years from now or so in Judge Dredd we start hearing reports of an assault on Upminster Castle by an army of mutant rebels, including a teenage Johnny Alpha, but that also seems like a LOT of work!

This is probably worthy of its own thread instead of here, but I've got a couple diffent cosmological models for the 2000ad universe that lets this all hang together neatly. One is "A Time Traveller Did It" another is "Tharg is Mighty and You Should Relax." I assure you this isn't going to be a huge part of our Portrait of a Mutant Coverage, instead we're counting down until Mr. McNulty arrives :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 11 September, 2017, 08:14:04 pm
It's obviously all due to a dense knot of pseudo-overlapping dimensioney-wensioney timelines banging into one another.

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 11 September, 2017, 08:22:54 pm
I mean, if killing one prehistoric butterfly can change everything, imagine a bunch of time travelers killing thousands of dinosaurs for their meat! After going on awesome cowboy style dino-drives!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 11 September, 2017, 08:32:04 pm
Every bad ass's dna started with Old One Eye - she's the primordial Eve of destruction...

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Smith on 11 September, 2017, 08:38:03 pm
I mean, if killing one prehistoric butterfly can change everything, imagine a bunch of time travelers killing thousands of dinosaurs for their meat! After going on awesome cowboy style dino-drives!
I imagine time travel works differently in this case.Travel created an alternate time line or something like that.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: skurvy on 11 September, 2017, 10:58:29 pm
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wwRz2PQt1GM/VYmXIPGzFaI/AAAAAAAAZrY/FId91638Ozs/s1600/Star%2BWars%2B%25238%2B-%2BSerji-X.png)

Thought I recognised that Space Pirate... Serji X Arrogantus from Marvel Star Wars 8 (although I would have seen it in Star Wars Weekly originally).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 12 September, 2017, 02:07:08 am
Oh my gosh! This is an awesome find, and now my blood is RED HOT WITH RAGE AT THE CHEATING!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: skurvy on 12 September, 2017, 06:49:55 am
Funnily enough the Star Wars story he's from is a blatant rip off of the Magnificent 7 (and, yeah I know, that was based on a Seven Samurai too etc).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 12 September, 2017, 06:26:25 pm
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wwRz2PQt1GM/VYmXIPGzFaI/AAAAAAAAZrY/FId91638Ozs/s1600/Star%2BWars%2B%25238%2B-%2BSerji-X.png)

Thought I recognised that Space Pirate... Serji X Arrogantus from Marvel Star Wars 8 (although I would have seen it in Star Wars Weekly originally).

I saw that pirate in Return of the Jedi - they certainly had a busy reprint schedule!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 12 September, 2017, 06:27:26 pm
Pity poor Pole-Axe, who came up with an awesome pun based name (he's a POLAR BEAR with an AXE! He's POLE-AXE!) thus becoming 2000 AD's second most famous homicidal polar bear, whilst simultaneously becoming the second axe-wielding bear character after Ursa from Blackhawk.

Bet he fired his agent after that.

I like to imagine that Pole-Axe IS Shako, like how in the Disney Robin Hood movie Little John is played by Baloo from the Jungle book. Like he'd been hanging around 2000AD central casting for a few years and Tharg took pity on him! That's why he gets his own cover, unlike the rest of the Meltdown Man cast ;)


Do you think he spent any time in Mega-City One?  Getting involved in criminal underworld capers with Max Normal et al?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Buttonman on 12 September, 2017, 07:00:24 pm
It was the only time that Earthlet Pugh profited from cheating - unless he changed names and location for another stab at £10.

JONATHAN PUGH   PORTHCAWL   203      
MIKE    PUGH   LIVERPOOL   1050      
JOHN PUGH   WALLASEY   149   YES   SPACE PIRATE
STEPHEN PUGH   BIRMINGHAM   246      THE EBONY WARRIOR

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 16 September, 2017, 06:21:10 am
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Quack quack, listeners! Bill Savage, Peter Silk, and their band of rag-tag resistance fighters arrive to fight off the evil Volgans in the year 1999 in this, the very first thrill of 2000AD and the fifth in our series of Space Spinner Collections! These collections have all of our coverage for a specific character or storyline, all in one place. They're a great accompaniment to reading collected versions of 2000AD, or to just hear your favorite thrill all in one place.

This week it's time for vengeance with Invasion! Starting on January 1st 1999, it's the tale of the the commie-nazis invading england, and the one man that has the strength, will, and shotgun to fight back against them! Invasion is one of our very favorite thirlls and is a fantastic mix of amazing action and gallows humor. It's Red Dawn meets Deathwish, and it's 100% fantastic.

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 18 September, 2017, 03:55:50 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/ihOajMl.jpg)

In our thrilling sixty-second episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 202-205 of 2000 AD, covering March of 1981. Join us as Judge Dredd deals with out of control superbikes and Pug Uglys, A robot rebellion beings in Return to Armageddon, we start arms running with Meltdown Man, a young Johnny Alpha joins the resistance, and Future Shocks return! I hope you brought your airhorns. Also this episode we reach an awesome milestone, we've now read 10 percent of 2000AD!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 18 September, 2017, 07:51:48 pm
An excellent time to jump onboard the Space Spinner as Conrad and Fox enter the glorious 200s.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Vanilllahubby on 19 September, 2017, 08:00:02 am
Couldn't agree more! Jumping ahead to the next
episode I find it quite fascinating how many Easter eggs
are on the first colour spread of unamerican graffiti.
PS Conrad and Fox, how many Massimo cameos have
 you spotted in meltdown man?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: 8-Ball on 19 September, 2017, 12:05:31 pm
Currently reading the Invasion! podcast along with the TPB. Bill and the lads dressing up as statues in order to spring a surprise attack on the Volgs is one of the most ludicrously ingenious (and insane) schemes I have ever seen. Just how long were they standing like that? Why did none of the Volgs notice that a bunch of new statues had suddenly appeared out of nowhere? Amazing.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 19 September, 2017, 05:23:59 pm
PS Conrad and Fox, how many Massimo cameos have
 you spotted in meltdown man?

At least one that we've mentioned on the podcast! Everyone in the distant future has delicate feathered hair, so a bald bearded guy does stand out!

Currently reading the Invasion! podcast along with the TPB. Bill and the lads dressing up as statues in order to spring a surprise attack on the Volgs is one of the most ludicrously ingenious (and insane) schemes I have ever seen. Just how long were they standing like that? Why did none of the Volgs notice that a bunch of new statues had suddenly appeared out of nowhere? Amazing.

New statues that are all carrying guns! If I have one regret about my MCBC appearance it's not calling out how Mike Dorey always has at least one panel where savage makes a crazy, "I'm gonna kill every Volg in this room" face.

(https://i.imgur.com/rokmkfT.png)

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 19 September, 2017, 05:33:58 pm
It's a cheap cosplay at least.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: 8-Ball on 19 September, 2017, 09:50:07 pm

New statues that are all carrying guns! If I have one regret about my MCBC appearance it's not calling out how Mike Dorey always has at least one panel where savage makes a crazy, "I'm gonna kill every Volg in this room" face.

(https://i.imgur.com/rokmkfT.png)

I can just see Bill Savage coming up with this plan, "Right. I've got a great idea. We all strip down to our underpants, cover ourselves in mud, then sneak into Sandringham and then stand very still on a conveniently empty plinth until the Volgs walk past... then we blast 'em." I mean, how could it not succeed?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 19 September, 2017, 10:19:22 pm
I mean, the usual Bill Savage plan is "then I'll shoot down the attack helicopters with my shotgun!" So this one is actually pretty elaborate tbh!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 25 September, 2017, 01:40:01 pm
In our thrilling sixty-third episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 206-209 of 2000 AD, covering April of 1981. Join us as Judge Dredd choppers up Mega-City One's massive graffiti problem, young Johnny Alpha foments rebellion, our heroes finally Return to Armageddon, we meet lionmen and camelmen along with Meltdown Man, Future Shocks continue with the return of Abelard Snazz, and CROYDON IS MISSING!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: ming on 25 September, 2017, 01:59:37 pm
I'm loving these - just a joy to listen to.  As much as I want to get to the more recent episodes, I'm dutifully working my way through from the beginning (on episode 22 now and getting through them at a fair rate).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 25 September, 2017, 04:11:47 pm
Would not have put Bucks Fizz down as being concurrent with my ealry weeks of Squax Dek Thargoing!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 25 September, 2017, 07:32:58 pm
It was as that or “This Ole House” by Shakin Stevens which was this weird Elvis thing? It was too much for me, so let’s do this “up with people” clone instead!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 25 September, 2017, 09:31:50 pm
It was as that or “This Ole House” by Shakin Stevens which was this weird Elvis thing? It was too much for me, so let’s do this “up with people” clone instead!

My best friend at Primary school at the time I started reading also read 2000AD and was a huge Shakin' Stevens fan! (I was into Ska, because I have always been cool! :/) 

Just hearing that list of early (for me) Dredds, it is no onder I turned out such a cynical bastard - unemployment and the system will crush you every time - great message for a council estate kid to hear early!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 02 October, 2017, 03:59:44 pm
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In our thrilling sixty-fourth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 210-214 of 2000 AD, covering May of 1981. Join us as the mutant army attacks Upminster Palace, we travel the spaceways with Judge Dredd, head north with Meltdown Man, and near the conclusion of Return to Armageddon! Also we have an extended conversation about audio cassette tapes, and Fox's mind is blown by the existence of cassingles!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 02 October, 2017, 05:08:30 pm
Love it when the cultural reference is lost, mostly because it then makes me research the thing I knew, but didn't know why I knew!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobby_Lud
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 03 October, 2017, 11:04:39 am
Still catching up - in the late 50s now.

Re Fiends if the Eastern Front, there was a discussion about where they were from - Romania. Fox said 'Well, not Transylvania then.'

Transylvania is in Romania. I've been there - the place is creepy as hell, and you could totally imagine the vamps coming from there!!! :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 03 October, 2017, 06:09:47 pm
2000ad editorial wanted to do a fan club....ipc didn't because they were cheap as hell thats why it never happened
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 03 October, 2017, 07:09:40 pm
Love it when the cultural reference is lost, mostly because it then makes me research the thing I knew, but didn't know why I knew!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobby_Lud
This is excellent thanks! I tried to look it up but I thought maybe the "clarkie" thing was part of it? Awesome to get an answer!

Still catching up - in the late 50s now.

Re Fiends if the Eastern Front, there was a discussion about where they were from - Romania. Fox said 'Well, not Transylvania then.'

Transylvania is in Romania. I've been there - the place is creepy as hell, and you could totally imagine the vamps coming from there!!! :D
I think we both might have been thrown by the fact that it's called "Rumania" in the text, which I definitely assumed was a different but nearby place as Romania, in some kind of Paraguay/Uraguay type thing. Yes, I'm dumb.

2000ad editorial wanted to do a fan club....ipc didn't because they were cheap as hell thats why it never happened
I wonder if the anti-fan club sentiment in the reader profiles were cherry-picked, or even if they were completely made up! False Flag reader profiles!?!?!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 05 October, 2017, 08:04:23 am
Still loving the show and now I'm up to date with the weekly podcast it now comes with added anticipation! Its like reading the Progs all over again!

So in the latest (May 1981) you mention thinking that there was a James Bond scene with ice yachts fight is it possible this is being conflated with the ice yacht type thingie in Barbarella? Actually who knows as I might be misremembering that as well? Its been an age since I've seen that movie.

As for Return to Armageddon I completely see where you are coming from about the ending. The strip was always more about the journey than the destination, but in a way that makes it (the ending) work all the more. It reminds the reader that for all the batshit crazy stuff that led there this was still a sci-fi/fantasy story in a boys comic and all the wonderful stuff you had before plays out in wonderful juxapostion to the more traditional ending sequence.

That said even the end is stil kinda a little off kilter, you have nice reminders of what's gone before, as you say Seeker remains one of 2000ad great characters, though alas he appears less at the end. Also Amtrack while playing more of a typical hero role is still pretty bumbling until right at the end. He's always getting rescued and captured and what not. A nice gentle reminder that this is not the normal and while I do think the end is weaker than whats gone before seen as a whole for me it kinda works in its own wonky way.

Keep up the excellent work, I'm almost as excited as you are about some of the things that you'll be talking about soon. Still my favourite podcast out there and thanks for the continued efforts.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 05 October, 2017, 01:44:50 pm
I think we both might have been thrown by the fact that it's called "Rumania" in the text, which I definitely assumed was a different but nearby place as Romania, in some kind of Paraguay/Uraguay type thing. Yes, I'm dumb.

I think that one is an example of evolution of language - Romania appears to have been spelt 'Rumania' in British English until sometime in the eighties.  There doesn't seem to have been any sort of 'official' change over, though.  Weird.

Romanians themselves almost always pronounce 'u' as 'oo' anyway.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: M.I.K. on 05 October, 2017, 03:32:49 pm
Yep. I still automatically spell it with 'u', because that's how it was written in most of the vampirey books I read when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 06 October, 2017, 09:38:26 pm
No collection again this week. I am not moaning as I can see Conrad put's an immense amount of work into this (the show itself, the Cradeline page, the Twitter feed, possible more) but these podcasts, along with the digital prog on Wednesday, have become highlights of my dreary week so I do watch out for them and get a bit disappointed when ther is a no-show.

Any chance of a Verdus Robo Hunter collection in the near future? I expect Flesh is a given
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 09 October, 2017, 05:37:52 am
No collection again this week. I am not moaning as I can see Conrad put's an immense amount of work into this (the show itself, the Cradeline page, the Twitter feed, possible more) but these podcasts, along with the digital prog on Wednesday, have become highlights of my dreary week so I do watch out for them and get a bit disappointed when ther is a no-show.

Any chance of a Verdus Robo Hunter collection in the near future? I expect Flesh is a given

Really sorry about the slowdown in collections! My goal is to do a bunch to get back on track this week! I think I'm 3 or four behind and will try to get many of them out this week. Based on your requests, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 09 October, 2017, 02:17:31 pm
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In our thrilling sixty-fifth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 215-218 of 2000 AD, covering June of 1981. Join us as the mutant AND the yujee resistance runs into some trouble, we learn more about the mega-rackets of Mega-City One, and we reach the end of Return to Armageddon! Also this episode marks the one year anniversary of our show, we're every excited! Here's to many many more!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 09 October, 2017, 04:37:18 pm
Happy anniversary! I'm almost caught up, now, (just the latest episode to listen to) and I've loved them all. I'm giving these podcasts a rating of 7.5/7.5! Here's to the next year's worth of thrillage!

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 09 October, 2017, 04:42:31 pm
No collection again this week. I am not moaning as I can see Conrad put's an immense amount of work into this (the show itself, the Cradeline page, the Twitter feed, possible more) but these podcasts, along with the digital prog on Wednesday, have become highlights of my dreary week so I do watch out for them and get a bit disappointed when ther is a no-show.

Any chance of a Verdus Robo Hunter collection in the near future? I expect Flesh is a given

I may or may not be almost possibly responsible for this maybe.

Still loving the show and now I'm up to date with the weekly podcast it now comes with added anticipation! Its like reading the Progs all over again!

So in the latest (May 1981) you mention thinking that there was a James Bond scene with ice yachts fight is it possible this is being conflated with the ice yacht type thingie in Barbarella? Actually who knows as I might be misremembering that as well? Its been an age since I've seen that movie.

As for Return to Armageddon I completely see where you are coming from about the ending. The strip was always more about the journey than the destination, but in a way that makes it (the ending) work all the more. It reminds the reader that for all the batshit crazy stuff that led there this was still a sci-fi/fantasy story in a boys comic and all the wonderful stuff you had before plays out in wonderful juxapostion to the more traditional ending sequence.

That said even the end is stil kinda a little off kilter, you have nice reminders of what's gone before, as you say Seeker remains one of 2000ad great characters, though alas he appears less at the end. Also Amtrack while playing more of a typical hero role is still pretty bumbling until right at the end. He's always getting rescued and captured and what not. A nice gentle reminder that this is not the normal and while I do think the end is weaker than whats gone before seen as a whole for me it kinda works in its own wonky way.

Keep up the excellent work, I'm almost as excited as you are about some of the things that you'll be talking about soon. Still my favourite podcast out there and thanks for the continued efforts.

So, RTA is something a bit special for me still. Like, I'm not going to go out and hate something that clearly was astounding. I play a lot of games and almost all endings are never that satisfying, especially horror. Amtrak was this character I felt had something to gain from being put into this position where he is in constant pain and being treated like dirt, and eventually has to confront in some way the horrors of how he was treated by human beings.

This is ultimately what made me unhappy about it. I didn't expect him to be jaded, but I did expect that there would be some questioning of that experience, and if he truly should save them. Have his counterpart give him this conundrum and, as Amtrak appears to be turning evil, reveal that he's actually just using it to get close and stop this whole thing from happening. That string never got plucked and I feel it was a missed opportunity.

Happy anniversary! I'm almost caught up, now, (just the latest episode to listen to) and I've loved them all. I'm giving these podcasts a rating of 7.5/7.5! Here's to the next year's worth of thrillage!

Thanks for the love!


Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 10 October, 2017, 07:52:28 am
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KLEG HAI! The insane Judge Cal has taken control of Mega-City One and it's up to Judge Dredd, Judge Giant, and a rag tag team of instructors and kings of underground rivers to stop him in the sixth in our series of Space Spinner Collections! These collections have all of our coverage for a specific character or storyline, all in one place. They're a great accompaniment to reading collected versions of 2000AD, or to just hear your favorite thrill all in one place.

This week it's time for resistance with the saga of Judge Cal. following the events of the Cursed Earth, Dredd returns home to find the powerful Cal out to get him, and when the Chief Judge is murdered, all hell breaks loose! The third great Dredd mega-epic, Judge Cal is the always relevant story of a mad tyrant coming to power and a determined resistance taking him down.

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 11 October, 2017, 04:56:04 pm
with your two collection poddys you are spoiling us this week
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 11 October, 2017, 07:23:55 pm
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Head 'em and move 'em out! From the 23rd century AD to 65 million years ago, it's time to feed the hungry mouths of the future with Flesh! Join Earl Reagan, Claw Carver, and the hag Tyrannosaurus Rex herself Old One Eye in the seventh in our series of Space Spinner Collections! These collections have all of our coverage for a specific character or storyline, all in one place. They're a great accompaniment to reading collected versions of 2000AD, or to just hear your favorite thrill all in one place.

This time we're heading out into the frontier of millions years ago to drive herds of angry dinos and eventually be killed by them. Tough cowboy Earl Reagan leads the cast of time traveling cowpokes as they fight everything from giant alligators to bloodthirsty giant spiders to tyrannosaurs with three human heads thanks to a crazy time-travel mixup! It's a great early thrill. Check it out and learn why Flesh is always on the menu!

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There's still more to come!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 16 October, 2017, 07:02:43 pm
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In our thrilling sixty-sixth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 219-222 of 2000 AD, covering July of 1981. Join us as we conclude Portrait of a Mutant, the Mega Rackets roll on, the Jensen Gang strikes, and Nemesis the Warlock returns! CREDO! The second half of 1981 is full of premieres of classic thrill-powered stories, and it all starts here!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 16 October, 2017, 09:28:48 pm
Oh/ My/ God

Ghost Town, Portrait of  Mutant and Nemesis... Don't think humanity has improved on this month
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 16 October, 2017, 09:52:34 pm
Oh I'm looking forward to my journey to work tomorrow accompanied by your thoughts on Nemesis.

I do however have another point to make. Are you in trouble, does someone disapprove of you recording your podcast. Do you have sensitive neighbours sicked by your depraved enjoyment of this sick British comic?

The reason I ask is the wrap around bits of the Flesh 'Trade' seemed like you were desperately keeping your voice down. As if recording under your duvet by touch light after your bedtime desperate that your Mum didn't catch you! It sounds clear and fine BUT hushed.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 16 October, 2017, 10:00:10 pm
The third quarter of 1981 has at least one historic storyline or thrill premiere, it's insane.
July: Nemesis arrives full time/end of portrait of a mutant
August: Judge Death Lives
September: Rogue Trooper premieres
BONUS MONTH
October: Ace Trucking premiers/The Hot Dog Run/Start of Block Mania (just one issue)

It's not until November or December that we'll really slow down with new and history stuff. It's a good era for podcast, but a tough one once we finally get to the 81 Spinnies and have to figure out the best one!

Oh I'm looking forward to my journey to work tomorrow accompanied by your thoughts on Nemesis.

I do however have another point to make. Are you in trouble, does someone disapprove of you recording your podcast. Do you have sensitive neighbours sicked by your depraved enjoyment of this sick British comic?

The reason I ask is the wrap around bits of the Flesh 'Trade' seemed like you were desperately keeping your voice down. As if recording under your duvet by touch light after your bedtime desperate that your Mum didn't catch you! It sounds clear and fine BUT hushed.

Haha! I do tend to speak a little quieter when it's just me, there's just something about talking to myself that makes me get a little self conscious :D It's a good point though, will try to be louder and prouder for the upcoming Robo-Hunter, Strontium Dog (Journey to Hell), Harlem Heroes, and the ultra-secret-mega collection that I'll be putting out over the next week or two before Thursdays turn into Special and Annuals day!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 17 October, 2017, 05:44:04 pm
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Holy Joe Smith! It's the year 2140 and Sam Slade, ace Robo-Hunter, is being sent to the planet Verdus to deal with a massive robot uprising. Along with his robo-meter Cutie and the de-aged and cantankerous Kidd all head out for adventure in the eighth in our series of Space Spinner 2000 Collection! These collections have all of our coverage for a specific character or storyline, all in one place. They're a great accompaniment to reading collected versions of 2000AD, or to just hear your favorite thrill all in one place.

This time we're headed out to Verdus for some awesome action and hilarious situations! From the sewers full of robo-gators to the streets teaming with empty robo-taxis, to the stately halls of robo-parliament Sam and friends do what they do best, crack wise and bow up robots. It's another great early thrill, and one of the silliest of all time. Check it out, and learn why sometimes saving the day has some unintended consequences!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 19 October, 2017, 04:52:35 pm
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All roads lead to Hell as futuristic bounty hunters Johnny Alpha, Wulf, and the alien The Gronk pursue their quarry to the land of fire and brimestone! It's an awesome Strontium Dog adventure in the ninth in our series of Space Spinner 2000 Collections! ! These collections have all of our coverage for a specific character or storyline, all in one place. They're a great accompaniment to reading collected versions of 2000AD, or to just hear your favorite thrill all in one place.

This time exploring a strange dimension full of skeletal horesmen, flaming rivers, and the devil himself in a story full of action, amazing art, and more than a few CB radio call signs. Journey to Hell was the second apperance of the Strontium Dog series in 2000AD (following its run in the discontinued Starlord) and it arrives here fully formed and super awesome! If you're a fan of Johnny Alpha, 2000AD, or action comics in general, you owe it to yourself to check out Strontium Dog, Journey to Hell!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 19 October, 2017, 05:00:54 pm
Thank you so much - this weeks podcasts have been a real treat.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 20 October, 2017, 05:08:31 pm
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The Heroes fly high in the tenth in our series of Space Spinner 2000 Collections! These collections have all of our coverage for a specific character or storyline, all in one place. They're a great accompaniment to reading collected versions of 2000AD, or to just hear your favorite thrill all in one place.

This time we're heading out for future sports action with the Harlem Heroes! Basketball, soccer, karate, and freakin' jet packs collide in this awesome prog 1 thrill. We'll meet heroic Heroes like Giant, brian-in-a-jar Louis, evil villains like the murderous cyborg Gruber, and Aeroball teams from all over the world. If you like future sports you'll love the Harlem Heroes!

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Please let me know what you think of the episode! We're now finally caught up on Collection episodes, so posting should "slow down" a bit to our regular twice a week schedule. DROWN IN CONTENT! :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 23 October, 2017, 06:45:47 pm
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In our thrilling sixty-seventh episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 223-227 of 2000 AD, covering August of 1981. Join us as we reach the end of Meltdown Man, Johnny Alpha returns to duty, we’ll see the face of Nemesis, and JUDGE DEATH LIVES! We are in goddamn flavor country here!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 23 October, 2017, 08:57:53 pm
Don't worry - the Warlock's genitals are on display, it will just take a decade or two before Pat feels confortable enough to be explicit about it..... !

What a run of progs though! You have to give Mean Arena its dues, as it stops complete thrill circuit meltdown as we build up to the next level thrills once Rogue and Ace turn up!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 24 October, 2017, 06:45:27 am
It does serve a key role as a thrill power release valve! Though I’m not super duper mad at it, the way I am with the thrills we’re featuring this Thursday!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 26 October, 2017, 02:30:21 pm
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For every silver lining there's an angry dark storm cloud. So it is in the eleventh in our series of Space Spinner 2000 Collections as we cover our least favorite thrills!  These collections have all of our coverage for a specific character or storyline, all in one place. They're a great accompaniment to reading collected versions of 2000AD, or to just hear your favorite thrill all in one place.

This time we're torturing ourselves for your fun and amusement as we collect the four thrills we've disliked the most so far in our coverage of 2000AD. It's a rogue's gallery of thrill-suckers: Colony Earth, Death Planet, Angel, and Rick Random. We'll talk about what makes these thrills so painful and what could be done to make them better. While we usually pride ourselves on being positive, sometimes you just have to release your anger!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 27 October, 2017, 09:32:41 am
Just finished episode 63 -

Jings! Crivvens! Help m’boab!! That was the second worst impression of a Scottish accent I have ever heard!!  :o :lol: :lol:

Keep up the good work guys!  :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 30 October, 2017, 01:52:31 pm
Just finished episode 63 -

Jings! Crivvens! Help m’boab!! That was the second worst impression of a Scottish accent I have ever heard!!  :o :lol: :lol:

Keep up the good work guys!  :D

You haven't even gotten to the heart of my Middenface quoting!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 30 October, 2017, 01:52:57 pm
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In our thrilling sixty-eighth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 228-231 of 2000 AD, covering September of 1981. Join us as Judges Dredd and Anderson settle Death’s hash, Nemesis plays the blues, we start the Kid-Knee Caper, and Rogue Trooper synths out across Nu-Earth for the first time!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 30 October, 2017, 02:08:53 pm
Who is the nice robot lady voice doing the links on the collections episodes?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 30 October, 2017, 03:35:25 pm
Who is the nice robot lady voice doing the links on the collections episodes?

It's so important to find good robot help! It's one of the voices from ttsreader.com (http://ttsreader.com). I figured a UK voice would fit in with the 2000AD content, and stand out from Fox and myself :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 30 October, 2017, 07:19:09 pm
She needs a space spinner 2000 droid name.
 :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 30 October, 2017, 07:34:32 pm
Wow, either Conrad had somewhere he had to be, or he had a full bladder, or too much recreational powders, but that was a heckuva pace! I'm reading along and could barely flip the pages fast enough!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 30 October, 2017, 08:00:04 pm
Oh no, Sorry! I got a little self conscious with the giant opening I had with Rogue Trooper. I love Rogue, but I feel like he's got so much going on that it's hard to explain with out saying a lot, and I know our shows have been getting longer and longer. Will try to avoid over correcting!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 02 November, 2017, 12:42:47 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/4H8ZDtd.jpg)

In our thrilling sixty-ninth (nice) episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with the 1981 Sci-Fi Special of 2000 AD. This Special contains some excellent Judge Dredd and Nemesis the Warlock stories, and a pair of classic One-Eyed Jack stories that caused a fair amount of debate among the the hosts.

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 02 November, 2017, 01:51:53 pm
Ah, R. E. Wright is a stock IPC pseudonym when something's been extensively rewritten and the original author wants his name taken off it (rewrite, see!)

In this case, this one is rather historical because the original author of Southern Comfort was a young fellow by the name of Alan Moore writing his very first full length script submission.  No one seems sure exactly how much Alan Moore material is left in it, though...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 02 November, 2017, 02:35:43 pm
is that the nemesis episode which was supposed to be part of book 1 but worked enough as a one off they stuck it in the special?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 02 November, 2017, 02:40:06 pm
Ah, R. E. Wright is a stock IPC pseudonym when something's been extensively rewritten and the original author wants his name taken off it (rewrite, see!)

In this case, this one is rather historical because the original author of Southern Comfort was a young fellow by the name of Alan Moore writing his very first full length script submission.  No one seems sure exactly how much Alan Moore material is left in it, though...

Interesting! I must say, based on the amounts of panels alone I thought that Southern Comfort was an older strip, I guess my pallette still needs to develop. I wish I had known that RE Wright thing earlier, because the upcoming annuals have him writing a lot of early thrills!

is that the nemesis episode which was supposed to be part of book 1 but worked enough as a one off they stuck it in the special?

I think it might be? It's pretty self contained, but I could see it taking place in the prison in Termight right before Nemesis starts the raid.

btw we're in annual season now, the rest of our 1981 coverage will have progs on Monday and Specials/Annuals/Spinnies on Thursday!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Vanilllahubby on 02 November, 2017, 04:31:20 pm
This sc fi special was my first introduction to the galaxy's greatest! Btw is that Tom Frame in the
photo strip (second box?). Can't wait to here your opinions on ace trucking. Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 03 November, 2017, 06:25:35 pm
Am I the only one who laughed when Conway and Fox discussed the woman who 'kissed Judge Dredd's helmet'?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 03 November, 2017, 06:50:00 pm
This sc fi special was my first introduction to the galaxy's greatest! Btw is that Tom Frame in the
photo strip (second box?). Can't wait to here your opinions on ace trucking. Keep up the good work!

I don't know, but I think one of the guys waiting in panel three is art bodger Robin Smith, and I've always had the impression that the Alien Registrar was played by Richard 'Burt' Burton, as he looks a bit like Ezquerra's version of him.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 03 November, 2017, 08:25:30 pm
Am I the only one who laughed when Conway and Fox discussed the woman who 'kissed Judge Dredd's helmet'?

You can really hear me think of and then reject doing a "No time for love Doctor Jones" type joke in the moment!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Vanilllahubby on 03 November, 2017, 09:05:53 pm
More finbarr than short round!  :lol:
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 04 November, 2017, 06:32:45 am
one eyed jack available now as part of rebellions treasure of british comics brand fox approved*

*may be a lie
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 04 November, 2017, 03:01:53 pm
Just discovered this. Listened to one of the more recent ones last night, then the very first. Have now downloaded 2-8 to cram in when herself is at work. Absolutely wonderful, the joy is tangible and I sincerely hope they go all the way to current progs.
SBT
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Andy B on 04 November, 2017, 04:39:01 pm
is that the nemesis episode which was supposed to be part of book 1 but worked enough as a one off they stuck it in the special?

The way I remember it, this Sci-Fi Special was published before Book 1 started in the Prog: so this was our first sight of Nemesis. Seems like it was written to be that big reveal (irritating that collections put it as bonus content at the back, and not directly after Killer-Watt).

Great podcast, as ever: only thing I’d do differently is rave a bit more about the extreme awesomeness of Colin Wilson’s art on Dredd!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 06 November, 2017, 12:45:47 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/oP1VWpE.jpg)

In our thrilling seventieth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 232-236 of 2000 AD, covering October of 1981. Join us as Ace Garp his crew and their ship the Speedo Ghost head out into the spaceways, Nemesis starts a jail break, Rogue Trooper heads out to sea, Mean Arena moves to Manchester, the Kid Knee Caper concludes, and Judge Dredd heads out on a Hot Dog Run before BLOCK MANIA BEGINS!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 06 November, 2017, 12:51:22 pm
More finbarr than short round!  :lol:

Heh, another incomprehensible reference!

Just discovered this. Listened to one of the more recent ones last night, then the very first. Have now downloaded 2-8 to cram in when herself is at work. Absolutely wonderful, the joy is tangible and I sincerely hope they go all the way to current progs.
SBT

Thanks! Welcome aboard!

The way I remember it, this Sci-Fi Special was published before Book 1 started in the Prog: so this was our first sight of Nemesis. Seems like it was written to be that big reveal (irritating that collections put it as bonus content at the back, and not directly after Killer-Watt).

From what I can tell the special came out right around the time Nemesis book one premiered, possibly even before fully body Nemesis shows up in the progs (Book 1 of course opens with a lot of Termight/Torquemada stuff). That is a bummer it's not part of the main story, as Nemesis having the Sword Sinister is a plot point of book one.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 06 November, 2017, 01:32:32 pm
black mambas a species of snake

also shame on you conrad for almost giving the game away to poor fox i dunno how far you record so i ain't saying what but you know what you did :lol:
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 06 November, 2017, 01:54:25 pm
Okay, a bit weird. I thought I was listening to episode five, and was enjoying them tearing the first annual apart... Then my phone went tits up, and now I can't find it again. Episode five seems to be something else entirely. Anyone point me in the right direction? I have 1-11 downloaded.
SBT
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 06 November, 2017, 02:17:23 pm
black mambas a species of snake

Sure, but that gets in the way of our "everything is stolen from 2000AD" agenda!

Okay, a bit weird. I thought I was listening to episode five, and was enjoying them tearing the first annual apart... Then my phone went tits up, and now I can't find it again. Episode five seems to be something else entirely. Anyone point me in the right direction? I have 1-11 downloaded.
SBT

The first annual is episode 9, if that helps! Both episodes seem to working on the feed, maybe you just got further along than you though?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Fungus on 06 November, 2017, 02:38:46 pm
Someone pointed out here recently that Nemesis does appear at the start. Cover of prog 222  :o A great spot!
(I'm on Space Spinner 25 or something so don't know how the Space Spinner guys treat this)

Anyway, I'm almost done Nemesis book 1 in the Ultimate collection and it makes me happy. First re-read since 1981 and O'Neill's art boggles the mind as much as ever...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Vanilllahubby on 06 November, 2017, 05:47:11 pm
Finbarr Saunders and his double entendres, another classic British strip this time from viz.
If you get a chance you should check out viz.co.uk (nsfw!) Loved the high praise for ace trucking,
one of my all time faves! Re the hotdog run is it me or does the main villain look suspiciously like the
great Ron Smith?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Pyroxian on 06 November, 2017, 06:09:45 pm
Finbarr Saunders and his double entendres, another classic British strip this time from viz.
If you get a chance you should check out viz.co.uk (nsfw!)

http://viz.co.uk/category/cartoons/strip-cartoons/finbarr-saunders/ [NSFW]
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 06 November, 2017, 09:02:43 pm
A few more months of exposure to early 80s British culture, and you will never be able to see any reference to flaps, helmets or knockers without adding "oo-er missus!"  :D Also, a welcome return this week to the wonders of savoury potato based snackage.

Loved the description of the Gila Munja: "they're good at what they do 'cos they're crazy-crap monsters, dude!"

Interesting mention that there's little actual blood in Nemesis' sword battles - that's largely down to censorship. By this point it was almost a running battle between Mills/O'Neill and the IPC management, who insisted on inspecting every page artwork before it went to press - O'Neill would submit pages full of gore, and the assistant art-editors ("bodgers") would be ordered to white-out anything too extreme, especially blood-sprays - look out for suspicious white spaces in otherwise detailed panels, and a classic example where Nemesis plunges his sword up to the hilt in a guy's chest, but they've removed the blade coming out of his back, so it looks like one of those collapsible prop-swords.

Re: Block Mania - McMahon absolutely hated drawing this strip because every other panel was a humungous crowd scene, and it's one of the reasons he drew less and less Dredd from here on.

Looking forward to his artwork in the 82 Dredd annual though. You won't notice this if you're reading digital, but the worst thing about that book was the terrible production quality - as soon as you cracked the spine, the pages just started falling out, whereas my 81 annual is still solid as a rock
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 06 November, 2017, 09:07:39 pm

Sure, but that gets in the way of our "everything is stolen from 2000AD" agenda!



The first annual is episode 9, if that helps! Both episodes seem to working on the feed, maybe you just got further along than you though?

Ah, reckon I accidentally pressed play on the wrong file. Much obliged.
SBT
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 06 November, 2017, 09:09:46 pm
...look out for suspicious white spaces in otherwise detailed panels, and a classic example where Nemesis plunges his sword up to the hilt in a guy's chest, but they've removed the blade coming out of his back, so it looks like one of those collapsible prop-swords.

That was Talbot, by that point - the bit where Nemesis kills Magna at their wedding.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 06 November, 2017, 09:21:46 pm
ah yes, so it was - they didn't trust anyone after Kev!.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 06 November, 2017, 09:50:57 pm
Someone pointed out here recently that Nemesis does appear at the start. Cover of prog 222  :o A great spot!
(I'm on Space Spinner 25 or something so don't know how the Space Spinner guys treat this)


Ha! Very good point Fungus old chap. I was looking at that cover the other day and admiring the Nemesis Torque figure flanking it and it never occured to me this is probably Nemesis first actual full body appearance.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 08 November, 2017, 12:38:54 pm
Someone pointed out here recently that Nemesis does appear at the start. Cover of prog 222  :o A great spot!
(I'm on Space Spinner 25 or something so don't know how the Space Spinner guys treat this)


Ha! Very good point Fungus old chap. I was looking at that cover the other day and admiring the Nemesis Torque figure flanking it and it never occured to me this is probably Nemesis first actual full body appearance.

Had he not already appeared on the last page of Olric's Great Quest in the Sci-Fi Special?  Not sure what dates the respective progs were released?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 08 November, 2017, 12:40:16 pm
Interesting mention that there's little actual blood in Nemesis' sword battles - that's largely down to censorship. By this point it was almost a running battle between Mills/O'Neill and the IPC management, who insisted on inspecting every page artwork before it went to press - O'Neill would submit pages full of gore, and the assistant art-editors ("bodgers") would be ordered to white-out anything too extreme, especially blood-sprays - look out for suspicious white spaces in otherwise detailed panels, and a classic example where Nemesis plunges his sword up to the hilt in a guy's chest, but they've removed the blade coming out of his back, so it looks like one of those collapsible prop-swords.


Co-incidentally one of Kev's first jobs on the prog.

Quote
Re: Block Mania - McMahon absolutely hated drawing this strip because every other panel was a humungous crowd scene, and it's one of the reasons he drew less and less Dredd from here on.


That's an understatement - I've a feeling he didn't draw Dredd again until Howler, decades later (Titan covers and a page of Tharg's Head Revisited notwithstanding).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 08 November, 2017, 05:04:42 pm
Had he not already appeared on the last page of Olric's Great Quest in the Sci-Fi Special?  Not sure what dates the respective progs were released?

From what I can tell the Nemesis premiere in 222 (with the border picture) are sort of contemporanious? 222 is late July, and the Sci Fi Special is listed as coming out in June, but it's not clear when the actual release date is to me. Tharg was definitely hyping up the Sci-Fi special as just coming out as Nemesis arrived in the progs.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 09 November, 2017, 01:37:56 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/Z0VzYEO.jpg)

In our thrilling seventy-first  episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest comic with the 1982 Judge Dredd Annual (Annuals are dated by the following year). It's the second Dredd Annual, and I think it stands up to the first one. Join us as we meet the fattys, fight space vampires, and take part in a mini-block rumble! We'll also revisit some classic Dredd stories and hang out with our buddies Max Normal and Walter the Wobot. Finally these annuals are pretty good!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 13 November, 2017, 01:45:07 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/4a7Q3Wn.jpg)

In our thrilling seventy-second episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 237-240  of 2000 AD, covering November of 1981. Join us as Nemesis the Warlock and Torquemada have a zombie showdown, Rogue Trooper goes topside, Ace Trucking goes down a black hole, Mean Arena goes to Edinburgh, and Mega-City One goes to hell as Block Mania reaches a fever pitch!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 16 November, 2017, 02:59:29 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/ojJWj9F.jpg)

In our thrilling seventy-third episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with the 1982 2000 AD Annual (Annuals are dated by the following year). We've been pretty tough on annuals over the years, and this one has some pretty rough sections, but this one is improved greatly by the replacement of legacy comics with awesome classic 2000AD thrills. Besides some interesting new stories, it's a cool chance to hang out with our old friends from Flesh and MACH One!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 16 November, 2017, 09:08:02 pm
Episode 73: the 1982 annual, Old One Eye, MACH 1, Bolland in colour, and Kim Wilde with Kids in America. The hits just keep on coming!

Great stuff, guys.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 17 November, 2017, 07:37:35 am
Yes, great work.

I am expecting a big reaction from Fox on the turn of events in Block Mania that should be coming up on Monday

These must have been exciting times for readers at the time. They were probably still poring over Judge Death Lives and trying to draw the dark judges themselves while Block Mania and the Apocolypse War pushed the stakes up even higher.

I am pretty sure the next two 2000ad annuals are worth your time.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 17 November, 2017, 08:00:31 am
'...those leather clad Corinthians..'  Brilliant!!!  :lol: :lol: :lol:

I was laughing all the way to work!!!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 17 November, 2017, 05:09:16 pm
Dudes - the Daily Dredds - ‘not missing much’...!?!  :o

You DEFINITELY need to get your hands on a copy of volume one and review it!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 17 November, 2017, 06:18:33 pm
Dudes - the Daily Dredds - ‘not missing much’...!?!  :o

You DEFINITELY need to get your hands on a copy of volume one and review it!

Lol, at least in terms of storyline effects on the main progs. There's so much stuff that's either part of or adjacent to the 2000AD canon that at some point you've got to prioritize some parts. I'm definitely going to check out the daily Dredds, but unfortunately we definitely don't have time to cover them as part of our regular Space Spinner coverage :(
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 17 November, 2017, 07:00:15 pm

I am expecting a big reaction from Fox on the turn of events in Block Mania that should be coming up on Monday


Yeah I'm really looking forward to this one. Keep on keeping on chaps this podcast continues to be an absolute joy. Can't thank you enough for keeping it going.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 20 November, 2017, 01:30:35 pm
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In our thrilling seventy-fourth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 241-244  of 2000 AD, covering December of 1981. Join us as Matt Tallon gets revenge, Ace Trucking gets jacked, Nemesis gets stabbed, Rogue Trooper gets laid out, and Judge Dredd gets his man, but at what cost!?

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 20 November, 2017, 02:58:18 pm
"Stay tuned at the end of Episode 75 for important news for all listeners!"

Noooooooooo!!!!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 20 November, 2017, 09:21:27 pm
"Stay tuned at the end of Episode 75 for important news for all listeners!"

Oh God please don't tell me your merging with Everything Come Back to 2000ad. Only Conrad transfers over and we get glimpses of Fox in Annual and Specials only!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 20 November, 2017, 10:22:55 pm
All will be explained in Thursday's show. Don't worry, we're still hard a work making shows, we just recorded one last night!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 21 November, 2017, 07:46:34 am
"Billy club panel" - now that's GOLD!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 21 November, 2017, 11:15:01 am
I don't think i could take it if the podcast got canned ipc style :o
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 21 November, 2017, 12:08:25 pm
Fox is reviving the green cross code man for a series of a public safety films in the US.

In a twist, he now has a Walter style speech impediment, and has been rebwanded the Gween Cwoss code dwoid.

And has an air-horn to scare the cwap out of any pedestwians twying to wun into twaffic.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 21 November, 2017, 12:39:04 pm
Matt Tallon gets revenge

I think that we're definitely supposed to be rooting for Tallon as a hero, rather than him turning out to be an out-and-out baddy - however, it's worth noting that Tom Tully gets replaced by an 'A. Ridgeway' in a couple of progs time. Nobody knows who that is, but I strongly suspect that it's 'Tom Tully under extremely close supervision so that this sports strip doesn't get the comic pulled' following the astonishingly gruesome death of the doctor character.  It was, after all, a Tom Tully sports strip (football tale 'Look out for Lefty!') that was directly responsible for the demise of Action, not to mention Inferno nearly killing the prog in 1978.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 21 November, 2017, 12:49:23 pm
Inferno had already been cut short/censored, maybe he was on a last chance?

Could ask Steve MacManus...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 23 November, 2017, 03:01:10 pm
we love you guys and you truly do need a rest to recharge the thrill circuits

a lot of serious things coming so maybe the rest is a good timing :lol:
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 23 November, 2017, 05:32:12 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/3UkGNAr.jpg)

In our thrilling seventy-fifth episode Fox and Conrad take a break from reviewing weekly progs to reminisce on the whole of 2000 AD comics for the year 1981. It's a chance to reflect, review, and give out awards! Welcome to the 1981 Spinnies! At the end of every chronological year in our prog timeline we'll give out awards to the storylines and thrills we liked best over the last year. After this episode we're going to take the rest of the year off from releasing podcasts, but rest assured podcast PRODUCTION continues for the rest of the year and onward forever! I'll put out collection episodes over the next few weeks, so you won't forget us :D It's been an amazing year, and here's to many more!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 23 November, 2017, 06:10:01 pm
Dudes - the Daily Dredds - ‘not missing much’...!?!  :o

You DEFINITELY need to get your hands on a copy of volume one and review it!

Lol, at least in terms of storyline effects on the main progs. There's so much stuff that's either part of or adjacent to the 2000AD canon that at some point you've got to prioritize some parts. I'm definitely going to check out the daily Dredds, but unfortunately we definitely don't have time to cover them as part of our regular Space Spinner coverage :(

Not even under your 'collections' podcasts?  I'm sure we'd all love to hear your and Fox's take on these wee stories, and how they flesh out MC1.

Anyway, no matter if you can't - what you're both doing already is very entertaining.  I cannot wait to hear Fox's reaction to the next Dredd epic...   :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 23 November, 2017, 09:46:40 pm
Hey chaps enjoy the well earned break. Half way through the latest Spinnies and have to say it emphasizes everything that's great about the podcast. Behind the joyous enthusiasm and great humour there's some superb analysis and fresh insightful perspecitive unjaded like some of us longer term readers.

Can't wait to have ya back, but take the time ya need.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 24 November, 2017, 10:25:05 am
Although I'm gutted we'll have to wait a year to hear Fox's reaction to the Apocalypse War, I would rather you took some time off to maintain the love, rather then it becoming a chore or just fizzling out altogether.

Credo!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Fungus on 24 November, 2017, 10:29:57 am
A year... I could catch up  :)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Pyroxian on 24 November, 2017, 11:38:57 am
Although I'm gutted we'll have to wait a year to hear Fox's reaction to the Apocalypse War

It's only 6 weeks until the next year, so not that long to wait :)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 24 November, 2017, 01:13:11 pm
aahh - I misunderstood - I thought they were taking a year off, not the rest of the year off.

Phew!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 24 November, 2017, 06:12:33 pm
I can confirm, we'll be back January 1, 2018, and we'll be releasing more collected episodes in the coming weeks, so content will continue at a regular pace!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 24 November, 2017, 09:57:33 pm
aahh - I misunderstood - I thought they were taking a year off, not the rest of the year off.

Phew!
And in the meantime there’s a Harlem Heroes podcast out this Sunday featuring a forum regular.
 ;)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 25 November, 2017, 04:15:09 pm
Kids in America
Don’t you want me
Tainted love

💕 the eighties  :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Andy B on 26 November, 2017, 02:45:04 am
That announcement had me worried, but turns out could have been a lot worse...

Thanks for all the entertainment this year, and have a great holiday!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: AlexF on 27 November, 2017, 02:16:12 pm
Yes, many, many thanks to Conrad and Fox for the free entertainment and enthusiasm. Frankly, you'll need all the rest you can get to cope with the thrill-surges to come in 1982. I'm predicting meltdown levels of hilarity when we get to Rogue Trooper: Fort Neuro.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 27 November, 2017, 04:49:54 pm
Yep, thanks again for the entertainment so far - enjoy the brief break, you've both earned it!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 27 November, 2017, 06:33:16 pm
Yep, I can only echo what's already been said. A thoroughly enjoyable and entertaining podcast chock-full of insight and enthusiasm. I'm really looking forward to your take on THE Dredd epic...

Enjoy the vacation, creeps, you're gonna' need it!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 01 January, 2018, 07:40:07 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/QUJY5W6.png)

Note: We had planned to start new episodes, but have run into some technical difficulties, explained at the start of the show.

Have you seen this boy? It's the twelfth in our series of Space Spinner 2000 collections!  These collections have all of our coverage for a specific character or storyline, all in one place. They're a great accompaniment to reading collected versions of 2000AD, or to just hear your favorite thrill all in one place.

This time we're blasting off to deep space with Judge Dredd, Judge Hershey, and the Justice One in the Judge Child Saga! It's the third Judge Dredd mega epic, and will take us to exciting parts of the southern former United States, and then far into deep space. We'll meet heroes and villains that will be a big part of the Dredd Universe and see far more of the world (and beyond the world) of Dredd than we've ever seen before!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Echidna on 02 January, 2018, 01:02:32 pm
Note: We had planned to start new episodes, but have run into some technical difficulties, explained at the start of the show.

Oh no! I hope you can recover the files, I don't think I can take any more exciting news for all listeners. I've been listening since this thread started (thanks Steve) and I'm super excited for your 1981 coverage because that's where my back-prog collection starts, so I'll be reading along with you!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 02 January, 2018, 01:22:12 pm
Yeah good luck recovering the files for the lost episodes. Hopefully you get them back. Hearing you both this morning reminded me how much I miss you, I miss you damnit!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 02 January, 2018, 01:35:14 pm
Ouch, best of luck with the hard drive recovery guys.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 02 January, 2018, 04:00:02 pm
Hi everyone, thanks for the kind words, and I'm sure you'll all be EXTREMELY stoked that thanks to some IT wizardry the files have been recovered! WHEW! I'm super relieved, I must say.

So the plan is (2000AD forums EXCLUSIVE UPDATE): On Wednesday I'm going to put out a special New Listeners episode, just recapping the history of the comic up to this point, then on Thursday we'll roll out episode 76 and get started on 1982! We're also starting our new posting schedule, with Prog episodes on Mondays and non-prog stuff (Specials, Annuals, the Spinnies) every third Thursday. It should both let us keep moving at reasonable clip AND be sustainable in terms of podcast generation. Anyhow, that's enough under the hood stuff, get stoked for new content!

Note: We had planned to start new episodes, but have run into some technical difficulties, explained at the start of the show.

Oh no! I hope you can recover the files, I don't think I can take any more exciting news for all listeners. I've been listening since this thread started (thanks Steve) and I'm super excited for your 1981 coverage because that's where my back-prog collection starts, so I'll be reading along with you!

I should mention that we've already done '81, and the bombs are about flying as we begin '82!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 02 January, 2018, 04:37:27 pm
And you came back to me.

And like the fool I am I took you back in with open arms...

... ahem...

... or in other words, really pleased you got the files back and bless whatever wizard wizzed the magic.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 02 January, 2018, 05:41:18 pm
Great to have you back!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Echidna on 02 January, 2018, 06:20:13 pm
I should mention that we've already done '81, and the bombs are about flying as we begin '82!

I was so distressed by your announcement I was temporarily unable to tell years apart. Now in a state of maximum stokedness!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 03 January, 2018, 04:02:49 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/JNyqcbG.jpg)

Before we restart our thrilling adventure through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic, let's take a moment to get resituated with a New Listener Episode! This short episode features a brief history of 2000AD, and definitions of commonly used terms and concepts in the show. Check it out, you might learn something! Then stayed tuned for episode 76 and the return of Space Spinner 2000!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 04 January, 2018, 11:53:46 am
(https://i.imgur.com/w6DHgUB.jpg)

In our thrilling seventy-sixth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 245-249  of 2000 AD, covering January of 1982. Join us as  Ace Garp loses his ship, Torquemada gets lost in space, Rogue Trooper goes high tech, the Slayers go to Reading, and the goddang Sov-Blocks strike!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Andy B on 05 January, 2018, 05:17:25 am
Great show!

Superman II might have placed higher if it had a kick-ass Queen soundtrack.

Flash Gordon is also a lot more like 2000AD...

“Open fire! All weapons!”, etc
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 05 January, 2018, 09:30:52 am
Good to have you back!

I properly laughed at your description of the biochips inside the computer.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 05 January, 2018, 04:01:35 pm
I used to work in Reading and I know it well enough to say that all those directions in Mean Arena are accurate (especially the one about the shortcut through Woolworth's to get from Broad Street to Friar Street) and the Maiwand Lion being referred to by its Local Name of 'The Forbury Lion' indicates that whoever 'A. Ridgway' is he's a Reading native - although admittedly almost all the landmarks mentioned are long gone (Butts Shopping Centre, Forbury Park Bandstand, King's Road Office Tower, Woolworth's...)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 05 January, 2018, 05:16:37 pm
I used to work in Reading and I know it well enough to say that all those directions in Mean Arena are accurate (especially the one about the shortcut through Woolworth's to get from Broad Street to Friar Street) and the Maiwand Lion being referred to by its Local Name of 'The Forbury Lion' indicates that whoever 'A. Ridgway' is he's a Reading native - although admittedly almost all the landmarks mentioned are long gone (Butts Shopping Centre, Forbury Park Bandstand, King's Road Office Tower, Woolworth's...)

That is amazing! Who'd have thought there's be a love letter to Reading in the middle of a future sports comic?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 05 January, 2018, 05:50:22 pm
or ever :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 05 January, 2018, 05:52:54 pm
Surprised by just how much I missed you guys in your brief gap - I don’t (and didn’t)like Ace Trucking as much as you, and I rated Rogue Trooper slightly higher than you, but generally your comments are spot on. It’s easy to overlook in hindsight that lots of sci-fi cliches were pretty groundbreaking at the time - the idea of existing as a person in (what had not yet been christened) cyberspace blew my tiny mind then - this was a few years before William Gibson, and you do point out that we really didn’t have terms of reference back then.

Oh and remember when I thought you were talking really fast one week? Just discovered that my iPhone has an easily pressed button that plays podcasts at x1.5 speed! How embarrassing!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 05 January, 2018, 07:50:50 pm
Surprised by just how much I missed you guys in your brief gap - I don’t (and didn’t)like Ace Trucking as much as you, and I rated Rogue Trooper slightly higher than you, but generally your comments are spot on. It’s easy to overlook in hindsight that lots of sci-fi cliches were pretty groundbreaking at the time - the idea of existing as a person in (what had not yet been christened) cyberspace blew my tiny mind then - this was a few years before William Gibson, and you do point out that we really didn’t have terms of reference back then.

Yeah definitely, like I said on the show, for the the story was hurt a big by the lack of vocabulary for what they were doing. I think Fox and I are both drawn towards the funnier thrills (Fox especially) but once we get to the Buzzard and all the players are involved I think we'll turn around on Rogue Trooper. Honestly if I knock it it's mostly because I feel bad about ragging on Mean Arena all the time :D

Oh and remember when I thought you were talking really fast one week? Just discovered that my iPhone has an easily pressed button that plays podcasts at x1.5 speed! How embarrassing!

Haha that's happened to me too! It can be hard to tell sometimes because a lot of players will also pitch down the audio when you make it go faster so that it doesn't get all chipmonk-like, so it's just weirdly fast.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 06 January, 2018, 07:57:23 pm
So glad you guys are back.

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 08 January, 2018, 12:06:20 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/SAjs93d.jpg)

In our thrilling seventy-seventh episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 250-253 of 2000 AD, covering February of 1982. Join us as Ace Trucking heads out on the great Mush Rush, the games begin in Mean Arena, the invasion begins in Judge Dredd, Nemesis gets caught up with some spiders, and Rogue Trooper goes undercover!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 08 January, 2018, 10:15:31 pm
Thanks Conrad - great to have you both back.

That bombing of hippy earth with MC1 TADs is brilliant. I like to think of it as the climax of a gradually escalating scale of violence that started with the ice cream being dropped on Melda Dreep at the beginning of Block Mania.

I like Nemesis book II now but didn't care for it when I first encountered it (3 or 4 years after publication). Torquemada is great in it but Nemesis doesn't do too much as I recall and Kevin O'Neil's touch is missed.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 15 January, 2018, 05:27:18 am
(https://i.imgur.com/XEQvilT.jpg)

In our thrilling seventy-eighth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 254-257 of 2000 AD, covering March of 1982. Join us as we roll on with the mush rush, fight back against the East Meg invaders, have a spider showdown, team up with apemen, and deal with outside interference in Mean Arena!

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Or on your favorite podcast app!

Please let me know what you think of the episode!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 15 January, 2018, 05:31:30 am
Thanks Conrad - great to have you both back.

That bombing of hippy earth with MC1 TADs is brilliant. I like to think of it as the climax of a gradually escalating scale of violence that started with the ice cream being dropped on Melda Dreep at the beginning of Block Mania.

I like Nemesis book II now but didn't care for it when I first encountered it (3 or 4 years after publication). Torquemada is great in it but Nemesis doesn't do too much as I recall and Kevin O'Neil's touch is missed.

We're really loving the Apocalypse War and you're definitely right, the steady ramp of violence and destruction really gives the story and epic feel!

It's interesting, I think your opinion of Redondo on Nemesis is actually a pretty common one. People are down on Book 2 because it's not O'Neill, and while I can definitely see that because O'Neill's work is so amazing and distinctive I think it gives Redondo a rough deal. He's done some really neat work in book 2 that is worthy of inclusion in the larger Nemesis canon for sure! Though I'm certainly excited for the return of Kev in '83 :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 15 January, 2018, 04:16:04 pm
Weetabix is indeed big blocks of dry wheat.  If you put cold milk and sugar on them, it tastes like sugary milk.  For some reason, whenever I went to visit my grandparents I'd be presented with a plate of three Weetabix with butter spread on them (admittedly, it was usually margarine, and on at least one occasion, lard) even though I never actually ate them...

At the risk of scrambling Fox's brains even more, it's worth noting that the whole of the Apocalypse War, including Block Mania, probably lasts under a week of Dredd-verse time (it might be as short as four days...)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 15 January, 2018, 04:24:19 pm
8 or 9 - it mentions the 8th day just before the mission to wipe out East-Meg One.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 15 January, 2018, 05:22:59 pm
I was always amazed that the Daily Star newspaper strip managed to tell the entire story in one comic!

And something occurred to me about those TADS that hadn't before - when warped to the alternate Earth, they crack the planet wide open - so if they HAD landed on East Meg 1, then Justice Dept would have destroyed the whole planet - not a great outcome and hardly 'justice'

and Weetabix with butter? Yuck - they were unpleasant enough with milk!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 15 January, 2018, 06:47:33 pm
Maybe Justice Department calculated that only one or two TADs would get past the East Meg defences, or that any surviving TADs would detect a couple of TAD detonations and deactivate. Still, one Hell of a gamble!

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 15 January, 2018, 07:47:44 pm
It's interesting, I think your opinion of Redondo on Nemesis is actually a pretty common one. People are down on Book 2 because it's not O'Neill, and while I can definitely see that because O'Neill's work is so amazing and distinctive I think it gives Redondo a rough deal. He's done some really neat work in book 2 that is worthy of inclusion in the larger Nemesis canon for sure! Though I'm certainly excited for the return of Kev in '83 :D

Yeah absolutely with you 100% on this. I yeah its not O'Neill good but damnit Redondo on Nemesis, taken on his own merits is absolutely amazing. I've waxed lyrical about it many times here before, and don't doubt I will again but Book 2 is a great story, with some astonishing art and a joy to read.

And this spiders are just so gloriously hairy!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 15 January, 2018, 10:02:22 pm
It's interesting, I think your opinion of Redondo on Nemesis is actually a pretty common one. People are down on Book 2 because it's not O'Neill, and while I can definitely see that because O'Neill's work is so amazing and distinctive I think it gives Redondo a rough deal. He's done some really neat work in book 2 that is worthy of inclusion in the larger Nemesis canon for sure! Though I'm certainly excited for the return of Kev in '83 :D

Yeah absolutely with you 100% on this. I yeah its not O'Neill good but damnit Redondo on Nemesis, taken on his own merits is absolutely amazing. I've waxed lyrical about it many times here before, and don't doubt I will again but Book 2 is a great story, with some astonishing art and a joy to read.

And this spiders are just so gloriously hairy!

So many great artists have worked on Nemesis down the years - I think I actually prefer Redondo's version of Novala to O'Neill's (Novala being the planet which Terrans attempted to terraform, but which outgrew the colonists).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Spikes on 15 January, 2018, 10:57:09 pm
And something occurred to me about those TADS that hadn't before - when warped to the alternate Earth, they crack the planet wide open - so if they HAD landed on East Meg 1, then Justice Dept would have destroyed the whole planet - not a great outcome and hardly 'justice'


Maybe Justice Department calculated that only one or two TADs would get past the East Meg defences, or that any surviving TADs would detect a couple of TAD detonations and deactivate. Still, one Hell of a gamble!





There's a panel showing a hospitalised Griffin being brought up to speed by Dredd  "You've launched the TADS then... You did right... better the Sov's perish with us, than rule us..."
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 15 January, 2018, 11:34:10 pm
Later on when the Dredd and the Apocalypse squad fire TADs from a hijacked Sov Silo they shoot 20 and only three get through. I think they were definitely taking East Meg 1 defenses into account when they fired. Making unleashing the on the peace world al the more monstrous!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 18 January, 2018, 11:34:06 am
(https://i.imgur.com/HZPnUIw.jpg)

In our thrilling seventy-ninth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with the 1982 Sci-Fi Special of 2000 AD. This Special has some fun stories featuring Judge Dredd, Rogue Trooper, and Ace Trucking, as well as some truly classic early thrills!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 18 January, 2018, 01:43:00 pm
Definitely Scientology in Ace Trucking.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 18 January, 2018, 09:20:17 pm
That was possibly the funniest one ever - I was sniggering away with my hand covering my mouth to stop myself laughing out loud on the train.

One of my favourite things ever said on the show was at the end of the Sam Slade Verdus story where Conrad declared it 'another successful genocide for a 2000ad character!'.

Conrad declared an interest in peoples 2000AD origin stories in this latest episode and invited listeners to write in so here is mine.

I was 9 or 10 year old Eagle reader (it was pretty good, especially the Dan Dare which was closer to the original Frank Hampsen one, and Doomlord by John Wagner) and there was a boy who lived near me who was 13 who I looked up to a bit and thought he was really cool. He told me 2000AD was far better than The Eagle and lent me the run of progs containing Judge Death Lives. I loved it and immediately took up 2000AD from prog 300 which had a free Dredd badge with it.

Thanks for the laughs guys - keep them coming.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 21 January, 2018, 12:25:21 pm
Awesome 2000AD Soecial episode guys! Really funny, particularly the query re MACH1’s methods.

Really cool hearing you covering the Daily Dredd reprints! My apologies for giving you ‘guff’ about it earlier, but super-stoked to hear you may be tackling the collected volumes at some point in the future!  :D

Looking forward to the next episode - I can’t wait to hear what Fox thinks of the next part of Apocalypse War!!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 21 January, 2018, 03:54:32 pm
Really cool hearing you covering the Daily Dredd reprints! My apologies for giving you ‘guff’ about it earlier, but super-stoked to hear you may be tackling the collected volumes at some point in the future!  :D

Haha no problem! Frankly it's super flattering to think anyone wants to hear our coverage of things!

The thing I love about the specials is that since they're so short (60 pages or so, half the size of the usual 120-150 pages of a standard month) they give us a chance to draw out discussions and go down rabbit holes that we'd normally have to skip so that the show doesn't end up being two hours long.

I was 9 or 10 year old Eagle reader (it was pretty good, especially the Dan Dare which was closer to the original Frank Hampsen one, and Doomlord by John Wagner) and there was a boy who lived near me who was 13 who I looked up to a bit and thought he was really cool. He told me 2000AD was far better than The Eagle and lent me the run of progs containing Judge Death Lives. I loved it and immediately took up 2000AD from prog 300 which had a free Dredd badge with it.

Nice! We'll get to 300 soon enough and I'd interested to hear how our opinions match up with your 10 year old ones :D

Definitely Scientology in Ace Trucking.

Yeah that makes sense, it can be hard some times figuring out what movements are popular when. For instance there's a Robo-Hunter story coming up with a robot cult and I can't tell if it's just a parody of Hare Krishnas or also of the Unification Church. Always a fraught topic.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 21 January, 2018, 05:20:31 pm
Probably more the moonies than Hare Krishna, the moonies popped up in the tabloids in the early 80s, but Hare Krishna processions were quite often seen up and down Oxford Street in central London.

Then there's football crazy... ahem.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 21 January, 2018, 07:14:43 pm
The robo-world cup is really going to stretch my ability to research and comprehend 36 year old cultural references and jokes.

Also I've been reading ahead a bit, and the greatest tragedy is that the Human League in Robo-Hunter doesn't sing any Human League songs!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 21 January, 2018, 07:38:27 pm
It pretty much boils down to who was who in English football - managers/coaches/pundits/players

Ron - Ron Greenwood (England Manager)

Don - Don Revy (England coach)

Brians (pundits) - one was Brian Clough (Nottingham Forest Manager), another possibly Brian Moore, not sure who the other Brian was - got the feeling Jimmy Hill might have been in there (don't have it to hand)

Trev - could have been Trevor Francis or Brooking
Kev - Kevin Keegan

Bev - no idea, maybe just a play on the other 'evs

The title comes from an old song...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDRBDX3nt_o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDRBDX3nt_o)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 21 January, 2018, 09:04:25 pm
Yeah Jimmy Hill is definately in there and its both Trevor Brooking and Trevor Frances as I recall aren't there two Trevs???
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 21 January, 2018, 09:22:45 pm
Yes there are.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 21 January, 2018, 10:25:16 pm
https://goo.gl/images/K2s5Sb (https://goo.gl/images/K2s5Sb)

The image middle left (3rd panel) I always thought the Brians were (from left to right) Jimmy Hill, Elton John (who owned Watford at this time I think?) and Ron Greenwood, then England manager... I could very well be wrong.

Could find an image of the Trevs with a quite search.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 21 January, 2018, 10:43:08 pm
Surely Ron is... Ron the manager.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 22 January, 2018, 08:05:15 am
I think we all have to agree, that certainly is a powerful image.

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 22 January, 2018, 03:33:39 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/aTOiTQn.jpg)

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 22 January, 2018, 09:01:28 pm
Surely Ron is... Ron the manager.

Yeah this always confused me (well on recent re-reads) as it looks like Ron Greenwood to me... as I say I have a reputation for getting this sort of thing right.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: manwithnoname on 23 January, 2018, 09:44:05 pm
Probably more the moonies than Hare Krishna, the moonies popped up in the tabloids in the early 80s, but Hare Krishna processions were quite often seen up and down Oxford Street in central London.

Then there's football crazy... ahem.

No Blakee Pentax!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 28 January, 2018, 05:49:12 pm
I listened to this in the week and meant to say I'm really pleased the way the break landed on the cliffhanger. I remember back in the day just being flummoxed by how Dredd was going to survive, if he possibly could, what would they do now he was dead, just endless conversations in school... and with my brother, though he had sussed it and wouldn't tell me... I was young and hadn't paid enough attention to the trip to the armourer.

Gosh that was one of the longest weeks of my life and one I'm so glad I was able to live in real time. A treat that box sets and collections deny so many and a fine example of why reading the Prog week by week is still the thing to do.

Fantastic word as ever chaps and I'm really looking forward to hearing tonights offering as I trudge to work tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 29 January, 2018, 11:47:11 am
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In our thrilling eighty-first episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 262-266 of 2000 AD, covering May of 1982. Join us as we solve the case with Sam Slade, restart revenge with Matt Tallon, and strike back with Judge Dredd!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: AlexF on 29 January, 2018, 12:58:29 pm
Die Hard in a Spaceship = Lockout? (With Guy Pearce, highly recommended as a silly action film)

Although technically it's 'Escape from New York in a Space prison', but that's close enough, surely?

Can't wait for you guys to get to Harry 20 on the High Rock, a highlight for 11-year-old me when I read it in the Best of... Monthly.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 29 January, 2018, 08:53:57 pm
Lockout is great, but I'm making a differentiation between "Die Hard in a Spaceship" and "Die Hard in a Space Station" because I'm ridiculous about these things. Meanwhile I'd say Escape from New York is it's own "Die Hard in a City" kind of thing. I'm also super stoked for Harry 20, as a similarly 11-year-old Conrad saw Fortress, and I've been obsessed with future prisons ever since!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 29 January, 2018, 09:06:30 pm
I'm pretty sure the guests ARE in teh pies, and a jumpy editorial or management dictat led to that rather fumbled "fed to the Krokilla" edit after teh completed artwork was in - From memory, Slade's horrified face always seemed to suggest so, I thought? Wonder if Thrill Power Overload mentions anything?

EDIT: Yep, TPO confirms this (pages 88/89 of the original edition) was a veto from above - Slade is a cannibal!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 29 January, 2018, 09:08:34 pm
I'm pretty sure the guests ARE in teh pies, and a jumpy editorial or management dictat led to that rather fumbled "fed to the Krokilla" edit after teh completed artwork was in - From memory, Slade's horrified face always seemed to suggest so, I thought? Wonder if Thrill Power Overload mentions anything?

Yeah I always thought this and the end was fumbled as editorial (or higher) lost their nerve... to be fair for good reason I guess. I mean hvaing your hero enjoy cannibalism is a bit much even for 2000ad... but my the very strong suggestion is glorious!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 29 January, 2018, 09:13:06 pm
Alan gRant: "Throughout the story we had Sam commenting on the pies at Blackheart Manor, how good they were.  He kept walking off frame to get another pie.  The last episode was going to reveal, as Sam bites into another pie, that that's where teh dead bodies had gone. But we wern't allowed to do that."

I'm pretty sure even as a kid I suspected they were being editorialised!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 29 January, 2018, 09:13:14 pm
They had those complaint(s) about the guy being eaten in Strontium Dog.

Possibly might have been a reaction to that.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 29 January, 2018, 09:14:04 pm
Excellent point!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 30 January, 2018, 03:13:04 am
I mean, after being responsible for the deaths of thousands during the Verdus storyline some inadvertent cannibalism isn’t all THAT bad!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 30 January, 2018, 10:36:53 am
Hah. Nice to hear Fox getting the British pop culture reference in this episode (Bedknobs and Broomsticks).
 :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: AlexF on 01 February, 2018, 03:08:39 pm
I don't think I ever noticed the editorializing  -I've always thought it was just transparently the case that the Blackheart pies had people in. Try harder, 1982 Steve McManus!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 05 February, 2018, 11:31:01 am
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In our thrilling eighty-second episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 267-270 of 2000 AD, covering June of 1982. Join us as  Ace trucking starts the Joobaloo, Mean Arena starts a new game, Sam Slade starts a new case, Rogue Trooper stats out along the Dix-I front, and Judge Dredd ends the Apocalypse War!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 06 February, 2018, 06:48:15 am
Thanks guys - great listening as usual.

So where did Russian Roulette come from? Wikipedia hints it might not come from Russia but states the first description of it was written by a Russian author. Being Russian though, he didn't call it 'Russian Roulette'.

Weetabix is okay - it is better than Shredded Wheat. The skinhead campaign running in comics at this time was fairly memorable and is still brought up by nostalgia comedians. You can buy it here in Sweden so it may be a European thing rather than a British thing.

The Executioner and Destiny's Angels and I am expecting cheers when Walter gets his.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 06 February, 2018, 02:24:09 pm
The Russian Roulette thing is me making a reference to one of my favorite podcasts, "I Don't Even Own a Television" which is about bad books. On that show they play a game where they flip to a random page of the book they're looking at and read from that page. It starts with a song that goes:
Russian Roulette!
Russian Roulette!
Not actually Russian!
Which I think is pretty fun, and so I make a reference to it whenever it comes up. I'm now starting to realize that this probably doesn't make a ton of sense without that context, and for that I apologize!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 08 February, 2018, 12:20:56 pm
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In our thrilling eighty-third  episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest comic with the 1982 Judge Dredd Annual (Annuals are dated by the following year). This is the third Dredd Annual, and just as fun as the first two. Like the first two annuals this one features several original full color Dredd stories but this time they’re all drawn by Carlos Ezquerra, as well as a bunch of other comics and features. We'll get a chance to see the city's reaction to the Apocalypse War and dispense justice in whole other dimensions!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 08 February, 2018, 11:42:48 pm
"I've got them - I'm just not scratching" is one of my top 5 Dredd lines!

As for the price, it wasnt the kids the annuals were aimed at - they were seen as an easy Christmas present / Stocking Filler for grannies and parents rather than being affordable to kids straight off the shelf - so they are milking the 'dults rather than the juves!


Love "Day in the Death.."

"Behold THe Beast" is masterclass stuff - how to do a "nostalgia" story that just works as a story period - Helter Skelter hang your head in shame!

And "line 9" is so chilling and funny and depressing!  Possibly a good primer story that sums up Dredd as good as anything in 6 or 7 pages?




Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: maryanddavid on 09 February, 2018, 12:12:10 am
Quote
"I've got them - I'm just not scratching" is one of my top 5 Dredd lines!
Same here!

'Behold the Beast' is one of the few 2000AD strips that freaked me out a bit at the time of reading for some reason, the others were annual Future Shocks. First was a Belardinelli drawn strip about reaching the edge of space, the other two I remember only a bit, a father and son shooting an alien and the other was a guy in a boat and a nuclear war.
 Not thought of these in years, weekend reading sorted!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 09 February, 2018, 06:37:06 am
Quote
"I've got them - I'm just not scratching" is one of my top 5 Dredd lines!
Same here!

'Behold the Beast' is one of the few 2000AD strips that freaked me out a bit at the time of reading for some reason, the others were annual Future Shocks. First was a Belardinelli drawn strip about reaching the edge of space, the other two I remember only a bit, a father and son shooting an alien and the other was a guy in a boat and a nuclear war.
 Not thought of these in years, weekend reading sorted!

I know the last two are from the very first Annual, End of Voyage and The Monsters. I remember End of Voyage as being very striking and very bleak, ending with the head of the statue of liberty flying off into the sky, while I think The Monsters may have earned some of the very first airhorns when we came across it :D Both are in our ninth episode, which now seems like a million years ago!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 09 February, 2018, 07:30:27 am
One thing I keep meaning to ask, but being rubbish always forget is what you chaps think of Colin Wilson's art. I always think he gets very over looked and his eurocentric style is just perfect for 2000ad. You often mention the art and artists but to date I don't recall you expressing any thoughts on him?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 09 February, 2018, 12:22:03 pm
The reprints are in colour? They're not in my copy...

Weird!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 09 February, 2018, 06:28:53 pm
Another British cultural reference:
Dr Finlay’s Casebook (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Finlay)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 10 February, 2018, 04:56:20 pm
The reprints are in colour? They're not in my copy...

Weird!

That story has some odd parts in the scan I have of the annual, making me think that it was added in from another source or something. It's a scandal either way!

Another British cultural reference:
Dr Finlay’s Casebook (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Finlay)

Oh jeez!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 10 February, 2018, 05:19:45 pm
One thing I keep meaning to ask, but being rubbish always forget is what you chaps think of Colin Wilson's art. I always think he gets very over looked and his eurocentric style is just perfect for 2000ad. You often mention the art and artists but to date I don't recall you expressing any thoughts on him?

I think Wilson is a great sort of baseline 2000AD artist, if that makes sense. In my mind I have him in a group with guys like Mike White and Eric Bradbury, who all draw a realistic style that looks really good in the black-and-white pages of the progs, but aren't as instantly recognizable as some of the more famous artists. Honestly I sometimes lament our lack of art coverage, it's something I want to work on for the show. I'm trying to develop more vocabulary to describe how artists draw things but it can be hard going. That said, we're coming up on the Marauders storyline that both Wilson and Cam Kennedy worked on, and I'll try to shout him out a bit there. Oh and sorry for the double post!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Fungus on 10 February, 2018, 09:18:00 pm
Ah. The art is something I have meant to mention for a while. Despite knowing you guys are loving the prog's art, it often (in early podcasts, I'm way behind) doesn't get mentioned. The craziness, dialogue and characters get covered and I'll sometimes think 'What about the eye-popping Bolland art?!'. Maybe I'm more visual. Recently, the love for Carlos in Fiends and early SD shone through, so I've watched it change... And describing art is HARD of course  :) What can you say about McMahon's Dredd without getting repetitive?!

My favourite podcast!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Fungus on 10 February, 2018, 09:21:10 pm
PS. Mike White is fantastic in an unflashy way... His Tornado work in the recent Meg floppies reminded me just how appealing his style is, for me at least. Without being one of the 'big guns'.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Andy B on 11 February, 2018, 02:26:59 am
I think Wilson is a great sort of baseline 2000AD artist, if that makes sense. In my mind I have him in a group with guys like Mike White and Eric Bradbury

Strong disagree! I’d put Colin Wilson in a totally different league from those guys: for me, it’s only the (lamentable) fact that he did so little work for 2000ad that keeps him from being one of the all-time greats.

His detailed ‘realistic sci-fi’ backgrounds and cool hardware designs were perfect for (the otherwise pretty dull) Rogue Trooper, and indeed for Dredd: he’s in my top 10 JD artists despite only doing a handful.

But it’s fascinating to hear other views!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 11 February, 2018, 02:36:17 am
I think Wilson is a great sort of baseline 2000AD artist, if that makes sense. In my mind I have him in a group with guys like Mike White and Eric Bradbury

Strong disagree! I’d put Colin Wilson in a totally different league from those guys: for me, it’s only the (lamentable) fact that he did so little work for 2000ad that keeps him from being one of the all-time greats.

His detailed ‘realistic sci-fi’ backgrounds and cool hardware designs were perfect for (the otherwise pretty dull) Rogue Trooper, and indeed for Dredd: he’s in my top 10 JD artists despite only doing a handful.

But it’s fascinating to hear other views!

Interesting! I'll definitely keep an eye out for his work going forward. I don't have a great head for a lot of the art stuff. I'm often more in an "I know what I like" mode while also looking for the big names. Like i said, I'm still learning a lot about evaluating the art for the the progs, and discussions like this are really helpful! For sure going to really try to discuss art a bit more on the show.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: ming on 11 February, 2018, 07:47:00 am
Yeah, Colin Wilson is one of the all-time greats for me, despite a relatively limited presence in the Prog.  He definitely appeared to arrive fully-formed, style-wise*, and his ability with future-tech and looser 'Euro-styling is second to none.  I really need to pick up some more of his more recent work (and brush up on my French for all the untranslated stuff).



* That 'Sweet Taste of Justice' Dredd story in the 1981 Sci-Fi special was his first commissioned work from Tharg, despite other work seeing print in Progs first.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Tjm86 on 11 February, 2018, 10:00:33 am
I really need to pick up some more of his more recent work (and brush up on my French for all the untranslated stuff).

Amen!  I loved Into the Shadow of the Sun: Rael when Eclipse printed it.  It harked back to some of his Rogue Trooper work but with the influence of writers like Jodorowsky on display.  Regrettably they never published the subsequent volumes.  The other highlight for me was the few issues he did of Diggle's / Jock's "Losers" for DC.  A fun series all round and one of the many hidden gems that DC has produced over the years.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 11 February, 2018, 10:18:09 am
Just goes to show how subjective art is. For me Colin Wilson is amongst the 2000ad greats and miles ahead of Mike White and the more solid journey artists. So fascinating to hear him placed in with those by some.

I've always wanted to get some of his Blueberry as while I love his gritty sci-fi stylings and lapped up the Star Wars stuff he did, he does dusty landscapes and gritty beaten heros like no one else (well maybe Moebius himself!) and love his style.

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 12 February, 2018, 11:08:48 am
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In our thrilling eighty-fourth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 271-275 of 2000 AD, covering July of 1982. Join us as Sam Slade solves the case, Rogue Trooper reaches the sea, and the Fatties revolt in Judge Dredd! At the start of this episode Conrad says it's Progs 271-277, but that is NOT correct!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 12 February, 2018, 03:52:39 pm
Belatedly to the party - Colin Wilson is also one of my top 2000AD artists - his Dredd and Rogue are up there with the definitive versions, most especially his grasp of believable and cool looking future ctechnology
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 19 February, 2018, 03:08:00 pm
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In our thrilling eighty-fifth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 276-279 of 2000 AD, covering August of 1982. Join us as  Sam takes care of Kidd, the Dix-I front concludes, Dredd has trouble with fungus, and Ace Trucking is ready to GET OUT.

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 19 February, 2018, 04:34:31 pm
Gameshow hosts:

Les: probably Les Dawson (Blankety Blank) or Les Dennis (although bit early for Les Dennis as a gameshow host)

Jeremy Weevil: Jeremy Beadle (co-hosted Game for a Laugh, more of a prankster)

Eammon Enos: Eamonn Andrews (hosted this is Your Life)

Harry Karry: just a joke on Hari-Kari I guess.

Larry Gruesome: Larry Grayson: the Generation Game (the last game had a conveyor belt of prizes which the contestant had to remember to win)

Ted Cringe: Possibly Ted Rogers, host of 3-2-1 which had notoriously cryptic clues to win a top prize or end up with a dustbin.

Bamber Gastank: Bamber Gascoigne, host of University Challenge, also parodied in Young Ones episode 'Bambi'

Crazy Chick Chuckle - no idea.

Slob Bankhurst - Bob Monkhouse

A few other references - the golden bullet probably refers to the Golden Shot where a contestant directs a crossbow to hit a target. It also had the catchphrase 'Bernie, the bolt' when loading the crossbow which is also the name of the robot in the Dredd story.

Visually they don't look anything like their real counterparts.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Andy B on 20 February, 2018, 01:57:56 am
Another great show, and I very much enjoyed the call-out for my ‘cool’ Celeneon Death Guard in Prog 278. Still my artistic high point!

By the way, the name ‘Ogden’, that Fox found so weird, is a reference to a family in Britain’s longest running soap opera, ‘Coronation Street’. Wikipedia tells me that “The character of Hilda Ogden was very popular with the British public — in 1982 she came fourth behind the Queen Mother, Queen Elizabeth II, and Diana, Princess of Wales in a poll of the most recognisable women in Britain.”

Next week should be fun. #NoBlakeePentax
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 20 February, 2018, 03:36:46 am
There’s enough of a gap between Robo Hunter stories, combined with our coverage of the 2000AD annual that the Pentax will remain safe until episode 88!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 26 February, 2018, 12:11:20 pm
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In our thrilling eighty-sixth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 280-283 of 2000 AD, covering September of 1982. Join us as the Robo World Cup comes to Brit-Cit, Mean Machine comes back to life, and Mean Arena comes to a close! Also, a big shout out to our sponsor this week, Otto Sump's GUNGE BOX!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 26 February, 2018, 03:06:02 pm
Phew! I am glad the Mean Arena is over. I am reading the progs along with you and have found MA wearisome.

I think a lot of the Sam Slade football references would have gone over the heads of many readers. Football is the most popular sport in the UK but more people have no interest in it than do. As I kid I loved playing football but never had any interest in watching it on TV or following a team.

Also, it is funny how people get very militant these days about the term 'Soccer'. You can see in the ads in these 2000AD comics that the term 'soccer' was frequently used in place of football which would not happen today. It is claimed it as a class thing but back then there was near zero awareness that other games existed in the world that also called themselves 'football' and I feel it is more down to bagging the term for the most popular football variant.

The race representation is coming soon and is regretable but I think unfair to label as racist. It is ignorant, stereotypical and unpleasant but I do not believe it was deliberaterly malicious or implying some kind of racial superiority of the creators. Stereotypes were perhaps just an easy laugh and they would have seen it as similar to putting a Scot in a kilt with bagpipes and ginger hair like the Simpsons. Actually, now that I think about it, isn't Apu a bit of a racial stereotype too?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 26 February, 2018, 03:33:46 pm
Brian Clough's surname was pronounced 'Kluff' - the English also have a lot of frankly baffling rules for pronouncing names as well as the Irish and the Welsh.

Be thankful that there's no 2000 AD stories set in Loughborough...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 26 February, 2018, 03:56:52 pm
Good luck.

Slough can be either OW as in the town, named after soil or UFF as in to shed skin.

Then Frank Bough (70s/80s presenter) is pronounced OFF, but bough as a branch is OW.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 26 February, 2018, 04:43:28 pm
The race representation is coming soon and is regretable but I think unfair to label as racist. It is ignorant, stereotypical and unpleasant but I do not believe it was deliberaterly malicious or implying some kind of racial superiority of the creators. Stereotypes were perhaps just an easy laugh and they would have seen it as similar to putting a Scot in a kilt with bagpipes and ginger hair like the Simpsons. Actually, now that I think about it, isn't Apu a bit of a racial stereotype too?

For me these Asian jokes just seem really over the top and rough. They're really an example of comedy from a different era, sort of like (to continue the Simpsons reference) when Krusty does similar jokes at a comedy show and everyone else is shocked by them (http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/The_Last_Temptation_of_Krust). I believe I try to put it in context in the actual episode, which we'll have in two weeks. I think this, sort of like the early MACH ONE stuff, is one of those times that you really realize that we're reading something from 36 years ago, and how much things have changed in that time. This is obviously a thorny subject and one I don't feel fully qualified to take on, but hopefully we end up doing a not completely terrible job at it!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 26 February, 2018, 04:49:27 pm
Brian Clough's surname was pronounced 'Kluff' - the English also have a lot of frankly baffling rules for pronouncing names as well as the Irish and the Welsh.

Be thankful that there's no 2000 AD stories set in Loughborough...
Good luck.

Slough can be either OW as in the town, named after soil or UFF as in to shed skin.

Then Frank Bough (70s/80s presenter) is pronounced OFF, but bough as a branch is OW.

My understanding is that Worcestershire is pronounced "Wooster" but that might just be a Boston thing. As always I apologize for any errors, it's hard keeping this stuff straight!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 26 February, 2018, 05:11:09 pm
Pretty much :D  - I pronounce it Wustershur/Wustersher - not sure how much it varies around the country, around Birmingham they tend to have a bit more oo in their pronunciation.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Big_Dave on 26 February, 2018, 05:21:33 pm
For me these Asian jokes just seem really over the top and rough

because rednecks
& russians havent
been pilloried too?

any letters from llanelli?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 26 February, 2018, 05:24:07 pm
At least you're not reviewing Dad's Army - you'd have a meltdown over Captain Mainwaring!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 26 February, 2018, 07:50:13 pm
Otto Sump's "very very tasty" jingle would have been instantly recognisable from this ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92r9H_6B2kI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92r9H_6B2kI) (coincidentally, the waiter on the right went on to star in a hugely popular sitcom set in nazi-occupied France, whose very British humour was based almost entirely on comedy stereotypes of foreigners such as you'll see in Robohnter, but with more smutty innuendo).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 26 February, 2018, 08:17:34 pm
Otto Sump's "very very tasty" jingle would have been instantly recognisable from this ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92r9H_6B2kI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92r9H_6B2kI) (coincidentally, the waiter on the right went on to star in a hugely popular sitcom set in nazi-occupied France, whose very British humour was based almost entirely on comedy stereotypes of foreigners such as you'll see in Robohnter, but with more smutty innuendo).

Oh wow! I didn't even imagine the possibility of this! As always there's untold layers of British pop culture that I still have to learn about! (On twitter I've just been informed taht Blankety Tharg is probably a reference to the gameshow Blankety Blank?) It's hard out there!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 26 February, 2018, 08:51:29 pm
Otto Sump's "very very tasty" jingle would have been instantly recognisable from this ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92r9H_6B2kI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92r9H_6B2kI) (coincidentally, the waiter on the right went on to star in a hugely popular sitcom set in nazi-occupied France, whose very British humour was based almost entirely on comedy stereotypes of foreigners such as you'll see in Robohnter, but with more smutty innuendo).


'Allo 'Allo was based on national stereotypes, but in a fairly gentle way (kinda) - all the Brits are clueless toffs, the French get some variety while the Nazis are pretty sympathetically portrayed, apart from one of the generals and a Gestapo agent.  Difficult to describe our cultural artefacts sometimes...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 26 February, 2018, 09:25:59 pm
Yeah, the Asian stereotype in the UK at least lasted well into the late 90s and beyond.

Clive James had a series on UK TV which showed TV around the world, including a Japanese game show called Endurance.

There was a UK version which had two 'Japanese' sidekicks played called Hoki and Koki played by white guys - this was 1998.

(http://www.ukgameshows.com/p/images/1/17/Endurance_hokikoki.jpg)

And then there's Ting Tong the mail order Thai Bride in Little Britain (mid 2000s).

http://littlebritain.wikia.com/wiki/Dudley_and_Ting_Tong (http://littlebritain.wikia.com/wiki/Dudley_and_Ting_Tong)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 26 February, 2018, 09:27:38 pm
Otto Sump's "very very tasty" jingle would have been instantly recognisable from this ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92r9H_6B2kI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92r9H_6B2kI) (coincidentally, the waiter on the right went on to star in a hugely popular sitcom set in nazi-occupied France, whose very British humour was based almost entirely on comedy stereotypes of foreigners such as you'll see in Robohnter, but with more smutty innuendo).

I've been reading some Actions and I've Hellman of Hammer/Africa Corps to be an interesting example of that, like fighting the Allies is just a job, and his real enemies are the Nazi brass.
'Allo 'Allo was based on national stereotypes, but in a fairly gentle way (kinda) - all the Brits are clueless toffs, the French get some variety while the Nazis are pretty sympathetically portrayed, apart from one of the generals and a Gestapo agent.  Difficult to describe our cultural artefacts sometimes...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 01 March, 2018, 11:19:29 pm
Just to put my hat in some of this, I have discomfort reading the stuff in the same way I felt when my grandfather used to ask how my oriental friends are doing. I just feel it's a bit gauche. Still, I think Conrad's response was best: it was more the times than anything. Certainly hasn't hurt my enthusiasm however, as I'm sure people can tell.

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 02 March, 2018, 04:13:48 pm
Just to put my hat in some of this, I have discomfort reading the stuff in the same way I felt when my grandfather used to ask how my oriental friends are doing. I just feel it's a bit gauche. Still, I think Conrad's response was best: it was more the times than anything. Certainly hasn't hurt my enthusiasm however, as I'm sure people can tell.

Very glad to hear it and I think you are right in saying Conrad's response was best.

Speaking of your enthusiasm, I wonder how/if you guys will get through the later period when the thrill ratio takes a tumble in later years (creators lured to the lucrative US market, internal company issues, various other reasons). I haven't seen most of that stuff myself and so I will get to it as you do, but if it is any consolation I can say that 2016 was a bit of a golden year for 2000AD, and 2017 was good too so the comic is far from dead.

2000AD is more than just a nostalgia thing for me as what they are doing today is exciting and you just don't know what is coming next. It might be something you really want (Strontium Dog) or something you didn't know you wanted (The Fall Of Deadworld) or something completely different (Brink, The Order, Absolem, Ampney Crucis, many others).

I never see anything in it today that is actually bad (unlike Mean Arena, Wolfie Smith, Inferno, etc) but sometimes strips are too involved in their own continuity for me to follow if they started before I re-started reading. The Judge Dredd Megazine (a sister title to 2000AD) includes a supplement of re-prints which can help with this.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 02 March, 2018, 04:45:32 pm
I liked Inferno but that could just be my Belardinelli-tinted spectacles - Mean Arena was fun but frustrating (and the less said about the ending the better)

I guess it did feel a bit of a throwback to the first year of 2000 AD, when compared to Dredd, Stront, Nemesis and the rest.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 04 March, 2018, 09:49:55 am
Just to put my hat in some of this, I have discomfort reading the stuff in the same way I felt when my grandfather used to ask how my oriental friends are doing. I just feel it's a bit gauche. Still, I think Conrad's response was best: it was more the times than anything. Certainly hasn't hurt my enthusiasm however, as I'm sure people can tell.

Very glad to hear it and I think you are right in saying Conrad's response was best.

Speaking of your enthusiasm, I wonder how/if you guys will get through the later period when the thrill ratio takes a tumble in later years (creators lured to the lucrative US market, internal company issues, various other reasons). I haven't seen most of that stuff myself and so I will get to it as you do, but if it is any consolation I can say that 2016 was a bit of a golden year for 2000AD, and 2017 was good too so the comic is far from dead.

2000AD is more than just a nostalgia thing for me as what they are doing today is exciting and you just don't know what is coming next. It might be something you really want (Strontium Dog) or something you didn't know you wanted (The Fall Of Deadworld) or something completely different (Brink, The Order, Absolem, Ampney Crucis, many others).

I never see anything in it today that is actually bad (unlike Mean Arena, Wolfie Smith, Inferno, etc) but sometimes strips are too involved in their own continuity for me to follow if they started before I re-started reading. The Judge Dredd Megazine (a sister title to 2000AD) includes a supplement of re-prints which can help with this.

Neither of us have really lost any enthusiasm, and I don't think that's going to stop even in down turn years. What I enjoy about 2000ad over US Comics (and again, I'm not a really huge comic person) is that it's anthology. Nothing overstays a welcome each issue, and if something is real bad (I see you, Death Planet) it's quickly removed. The thing I dislike the most about the old comics I used to read in the US was that if I DID like something but a majority of people didn't buy the issues...it just died without an end. At least 2000 AD tries to tie things up into a bow.

I liked Inferno but that could just be my Belardinelli-tinted spectacles - Mean Arena was fun but frustrating (and the less said about the ending the better)

I guess it did feel a bit of a throwback to the first year of 2000 AD, when compared to Dredd, Stront, Nemesis and the rest.

I loved Inferno. Loved it.

That said, I have a special place in my heart for Wolfie Smith, Mean Arena, and Return to Armageddon. It's like the comics that could have been. I like supernatural whatever, and Wolfie Smith COULD have been that. It just didn't sit well, and it's second coming was whoabad.

Mean Arena, I grew to love it's weird appendage of murder. I almost feel it would have been a better comic had Matt Talon been an antagonist; it could have been the reverse of a Harlem Heroes, where you're kind of rooting for the murderer as opposed to the good guys.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 04 March, 2018, 10:11:42 am
As a massive fan of Artie Gruber, I like that idea.

I don't think I've read Wolfie Smith since it first appeared, but it always felt that it was one of those unloved strips from Tornado.

I wonder if there was an official policy that they had to run a merged strip for x number of episodes before they could axe it?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 04 March, 2018, 05:02:17 pm
The way Tornado merger really shows that some comics merge better than others, especially when you compare it to Starlord. The Starlord merger brought us two backbone 2000AD stories, Strontium Dog and Ro-Busters, which easily fit in to the lineup, and we even had Starlord himself showing up and doing things in the Progs. Meanwhile both of the Tornado imports had to be heavily changed when they arrived, Blackhawk moving to space gladiators, Woflie Smith aging up and becoming a Fugitive/Incredible Hulk style wanderer, and Big E and his gang just on one cover of the merger issue, and then disappeared completely! Honestly I don't think Wolfie translated as well into a more Sci-Fi setting, plus I think in general Tom Tully (who wrote Wolfie) is from a different era of British comics, and it shows when you compare his work to others.
 
To me Mean Arena feels like Tully taking one last attempt at writing in a more "modern" or 2000AD writing style and he can't quite seem to cut it. As I've said on the show, for me the big problem with Mean Arena was just a lack of follow through on different concepts. If you're gonna hound your revenge targets and kill them ironically, let's do that! If we're gonna meet and have ridiculous side stories for all the team members let's do that! If there's gonna be this thing about hidden robots passing as humans, let's really check that out! Instead there's all these interesting plot threads left on the table, and frankly it's a shame.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 04 March, 2018, 05:13:08 pm
Totally agree, it's so odd that Mean Arena picks up and drops so many threads which could be interesting.

Mind you, Mean Team doesn't fare much better, kind of becomes a Blackhawk part 2 with that split personality.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Echidna on 04 March, 2018, 10:01:08 pm
I've been praying for Mean Arena to end, but now that it's over I find myself wishing they'd given it a few more episodes to wrap up properly (then again, a whole match set inside that video game stadium would probably be unbearable). At least it wasn't as rushed as Inferno's last episode or Return of the Mean Team, which I described in another thread as "a dumb story with a fuck-you ending".
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 04 March, 2018, 11:03:11 pm
I want to read the Foxisntarobot version of Mean Arena!  Mean arena could ahve had an insanely good ending if they'd have gone for Matt Tallon as rogue droid/deluded psycho/both ending.

That said, I think a number of snotty little British boys would have been put out by 'avin' their 'ero turn out to be a bad 'un.. possibly a little too early in the progs maturing to get away with that, even in the hands of a Wagner, Mills or Moore....
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 05 March, 2018, 09:08:00 am
you jerks putting off the death of the wobot for an annual  :lol:
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 05 March, 2018, 12:39:50 pm
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In our thrilling eighty-seventh episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with the 1983 2000 AD Annual (Annuals are dated by the following year). This annual features classic MACH One, Invasion, and Judge Dredd stories, as well as the first five episodes of Harlem Heroes. We'll also ride out with Johnny Alpha, Ro-Busters, Rogue Trooper, Tharg the Mighty, and a super awesome appearance by Nemesis the Warlock! Also this episode has twenty-two different thrills and Conrad almost died announcing them all!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 06 March, 2018, 08:03:48 am
Another fantastic episode chaps, as ever. And one that I feel I can add some context for you with. See the 'YNWA' at the end of my forum name actually stands for 'You'll Never Walk Alone' in reference to my once great passion for Liverpool Football Club for which the song is an anthem (along with Celtic in Scotland).

So the song actually has American origins being a Rodgers and Hammerstein song from the movie 'Carousel' - hence its appearance in Ro-Busters is a double whammy referencing both Ro-jaws and Hammerstein's naming inspiration and the fact that Northpool clearly references the docks of Liverpool.

Anyway it was adopted by LFC after Gerry and the Pacemakers covered it in 1963 and is sung at the start of every LFC game. At the time you are currently reviewing Progs Liverpool were completely dominant in English football and probably (I do have some biase) the biggest and best team in Europe winning 4 European Cups (before the 'Champions' League) between 1977 and 1983.

If you want to know how to sing it (and I'll cut this down as obivously there's WAY more than you need to know here).

Walk on through the wind [soft]
Walk on through the rain [soft]
Though your dreams be tossed and blowwWwN [soft]

Walk on walk on [building] with hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone [cresendo]

You'll never walk alone [basically shouting by now]

Walk on walk on [softer again] with hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone

There see - loads of useless context but I felt I should share!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 06 March, 2018, 04:58:45 pm
Thanks for the shout out for me and Jake, Fox.

We must talk about getting you into the book club.

David Tomlinson forever!  :P
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 07 March, 2018, 05:19:23 pm
Another fantastic episode chaps, as ever. And one that I feel I can add some context for you with. See the 'YNWA' at the end of my forum name actually stands for 'You'll Never Walk Alone' in reference to my once great passion for Liverpool Football Club for which the song is an anthem (along with Celtic in Scotland).

So the song actually has American origins being a Rodgers and Hammerstein song from the movie 'Carousel' - hence its appearance in Ro-Busters is a double whammy referencing both Ro-jaws and Hammerstein's naming inspiration and the fact that Northpool clearly references the docks of Liverpool.

Anyway it was adopted by LFC after Gerry and the Pacemakers covered it in 1963 and is sung at the start of every LFC game. At the time you are currently reviewing Progs Liverpool were completely dominant in English football and probably (I do have some biase) the biggest and best team in Europe winning 4 European Cups (before the 'Champions' League) between 1977 and 1983.

If you want to know how to sing it (and I'll cut this down as obivously there's WAY more than you need to know here).

Walk on through the wind [soft]
Walk on through the rain [soft]
Though your dreams be tossed and blowwWwN [soft]

Walk on walk on [building] with hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone [cresendo]

You'll never walk alone [basically shouting by now]

Walk on walk on [softer again] with hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone

There see - loads of useless context but I felt I should share!

Consider me learn'd! I actually looked up the song today to listen to while working. Quite lovely I think. I love me some history. As a new Euro resident, I'm starting to get the feeling that Football plays a pretty big role in life! hahahahah


Thanks for the shout out for me and Jake, Fox.

We must talk about getting you into the book club.

David Tomlinson forever!  :P

Eamonn!! My pleasure man. And I'd love to do an episode. I'll talk to Conrad about getting your info and we'll chat about a good time. Would be absolutely marvelous to chat on your podcast!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: BMCCOLL on 08 March, 2018, 10:31:16 pm
New to this podcast. Love it, funny as f**k!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 12 March, 2018, 12:00:27 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/gBlbvQA.jpg)

In our thrilling eighty-eighth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 284-288 of 2000AD, covering October of 1982. Join us as the Angel gang runs amok on Mega City One, Rogue Trooper finally meets the Traitor General, and Harry Thompson arrives at the High Rock.

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 12 March, 2018, 03:35:34 pm
don't let the door hit your arse on the way out walter and maria :lol:
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 12 March, 2018, 04:48:48 pm
don't let the door hit your arse on the way out walter and maria :lol:

I think this is something we can all agree on!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 19 March, 2018, 06:01:58 am
how about when the quality of the prog is high change the rating from worst thrill to weakest thrill
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 19 March, 2018, 11:14:42 am
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In our thrilling eighty-ninth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 289-292 of 2000AD, covering November of 1982. Join us as both Harry 20 and Ace Garp plan escape from space prison, Rogue Trooper arrives at Fort Neuro, and Judge Dredd pursues the deadly Executioner. Welcome to Space Spinner 2000 the only comic book podcast that is 100% anti-vigilante!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 19 March, 2018, 11:16:34 am
how about when the quality of the prog is high change the rating from worst thrill to weakest thrill

You make a good point. A lot of times I'll say "Top/Bottom Thrill" which I think sounds a little better than worst. Definitely something we have to take into account for the coming months!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 19 March, 2018, 08:05:46 pm
Fox was spot on about computer games in the UK. The early 80's were a boom time for gaming with the ZX Spectrum and Commodore 64 being the leading machines in the early years. Very few people in the UK had heard of the 'Great Video Game Crash' at the time it happened.

There was an awful lot of terrible but cheap games around but it was all new and exciting at the time. There was a lot of originality too but also a huge amount of arcade clones. Games were generally put together by just one or two people and the better games programmers actually had a following (Matthew Smith, Mike Singleton, John Ritman, the Stamper Brothers, the Darling Brothers) amongst games fans such was the quality of their output.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 19 March, 2018, 09:01:49 pm
Interesting! It is pretty amazing to see the Micro Page with actual gigantic BASIC programs in them in the Progs. I don't have a ton of memory of the actual crash itself, I came into video games just when the first Nintendo system was coming out. But you can get a sense of how down people were on video games at the time by looking at old ads for the NES (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Pyhu2yo0Ns), that stress peripherals like the light gun and the robot instead of the actual games! This is a cultural difference I never expected, and I think it's pretty cool!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 20 March, 2018, 08:27:43 am
Christ yeah home computing was a blessing and a curse in our house. I'm pretty sure it was Christmas 1982 that shrouded in great mystery my dad revealed that the reason my brother and I hadn't been asked what we wanted for X-Mas was because we got a ZX Spectrum - 48K, of gaming delight. It was massive deal at the time and cost a bomb BUT my God was it value for money in terms of the time spent using it.

Fast forward a few years and image my dismay when the same father decided we needed to swop the Speccie for a BBC Micro as it was better for learning to programme on and therefore more eduicational. I mean it was okay but the games couldn't hold a torch to its rubber keyed 48K rival.

I still feel the pain.

Though to be fair from my dad's objective it worked and my brother has worked as a programmer for many years now - all be it of the unglamourous world of warehousing software.

Oh and just for reference about how much £19.99 was (the price of the watch you mentioned) in my head the original kenner Millenium Falcon retailed (I think) at £24 or there about. So you could have a Pac Watch  or say a Rebel Transporter which was also £19.99 (again very shakey memory).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Pyroxian on 20 March, 2018, 10:10:31 am
Oh and just for reference about how much £19.99 was (the price of the watch you mentioned) in my head the original kenner Millenium Falcon retailed (I think) at £24 or there about. So you could have a Pac Watch  or say a Rebel Transporter which was also £19.99 (again very shakey memory).

The MF was £19.99 according to page 132 of the 1982 Winter Argos Catalog (https://issuu.com/retromash/docs/argos-no18-1982-autumnwinter)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 20 March, 2018, 11:01:40 am
This inflation calculator (http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1633409/Historic-inflation-calculator-value-money-changed-1900.html) (http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1633409/Historic-inflation-calculator-value-money-changed-1900.html)) suggests that £19.99 in 1982 would be £73.01 today - a shade over a hundred bucks at current exchange rate. I don't think it's that simple though - some things have changed price more than others, especially electronics.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 20 March, 2018, 12:51:30 pm
Oh and just for reference about how much £19.99 was (the price of the watch you mentioned) in my head the original kenner Millenium Falcon retailed (I think) at £24 or there about. So you could have a Pac Watch  or say a Rebel Transporter which was also £19.99 (again very shakey memory).

The MF was £19.99 according to page 132 of the 1982 Winter Argos Catalog (https://issuu.com/retromash/docs/argos-no18-1982-autumnwinter)

Wow cool - I could happily spend hours looking through that catelogue! Anyway RRP of £29.95 so I've gone for middle ground!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Pyroxian on 20 March, 2018, 02:23:35 pm
The MF was £19.99 according to page 132 of the 1982 Winter Argos Catalog (https://issuu.com/retromash/docs/argos-no18-1982-autumnwinter)

Wow cool - I could happily spend hours looking through that catelogue! Anyway RRP of £29.95 so I've gone for middle ground!
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Ah yes - there's a "Suggested Retail" price as well. So Argos used to be cheap once upon a time...

Also £34.95 for the AT-AT - I guess my parents really did love me :) - Especially as they bought it at Hamley's, which would've been even more expensive :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 21 March, 2018, 12:15:43 pm
Fox was spot on about computer games in the UK. The early 80's were a boom time for gaming with the ZX Spectrum and Commodore 64 being the leading machines in the early years. Very few people in the UK had heard of the 'Great Video Game Crash' at the time it happened.

There was an awful lot of terrible but cheap games around but it was all new and exciting at the time. There was a lot of originality too but also a huge amount of arcade clones. Games were generally put together by just one or two people and the better games programmers actually had a following (Matthew Smith, Mike Singleton, John Ritman, the Stamper Brothers, the Darling Brothers) amongst games fans such was the quality of their output.

Even I know the Stamper Brothers. Possibly the two most influential people in my early life (thanks to Rare!). Mind you, they made their name by doing ports and the acclaimed Sabre Wulf and Knight Lore, among others!

Just for additional information when I talked about "A game about an egg" I meant Dizzy!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dizzy_(series)

Seems like it played a huge role in British friend's lives.

Just for added context, computer games came to the US in the much later 80s and gained a larger base in the early 90s and then on. We missed the early programming days by nearly a decade :)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 21 March, 2018, 12:44:22 pm
Yeah it was pretty big, I think a big part of it was a push in schools by Acorn and the BBC with the BBC Micro and Atom, under the guise of education.

The other thing was delivery was feasible for the amateur since it was mostly cassette based rather than cartridges for consoles.

There was this weird niche following for composers like Rob Hubbard, Martin Galway etc, with people ripping music from games and coding graphics demos to push the hardware on the C64 and Amiga in particular.

The Amiga had a huge advantage over PCs of the time for creative content which were pretty limited graphically, but it squandered that.

I guess once the PCs got out of the VGA/EVGA limitations - with Wing Commander, Lucasarts etc *think MCGA expanded the palette* the PC could start to compete with the Amiga, even if it lacked the custom hardware.

Then it was voodoo cards for 3D and so on, and the PC/Console wars started...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 21 March, 2018, 12:54:35 pm
Just for additional information when I talked about "A game about an egg" I meant Dizzy!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dizzy_(series)


Oh interesting I just assumed you meant Chuckie Egg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuckie_Egg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuckie_Egg)

Surely Chuckie Egg had is the computer game involving eggs that had the biggest impact. I mean it was almost as big as Manic Miner wasn't it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_Miner (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_Miner)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 21 March, 2018, 01:22:24 pm
I guess once the PCs got out of the VGA/EVGA limitations - with Wing Commander, Lucasarts etc *think MCGA expanded the palette* the PC could start to compete with the Amiga, even if it lacked the custom hardware.

WING COMMANDER HNNNNNNGGGG

Oh interesting I just assumed you meant Chuckie Egg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuckie_Egg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuckie_Egg)

Surely Chuckie Egg had is the computer game involving eggs that had the biggest impact. I mean it was almost as big as Manic Miner wasn't it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_Miner (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_Miner)

I had never heard of Chuckie egg until this very moment and had to check it out. Kind of neat, and great control on jumps from the looks.

For reference, this is one of the oldest games I played when it came to personal computers: Treasure Mountain!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HAxdTacsgQ
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 21 March, 2018, 01:45:26 pm
Yay PC Palettes!

Here's one of the games I worked on before I got went back to college to get some training...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWlGpPD6eao (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWlGpPD6eao)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 21 March, 2018, 02:50:56 pm
Yay PC Palettes!

Here's one of the games I worked on before I got went back to college to get some training...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWlGpPD6eao (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWlGpPD6eao)

Pitfalling, Side Scrolling AND isometric? Not bad at all! Also, oh damn, I know ISS. A friend of mine used to play the incredible shrinking sphere on the Amiga Commodore 64 his dad owned!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 22 March, 2018, 07:59:13 am
Ah Chuckie Egg - I used to clock that over and over.  *sigh* Happy days.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 22 March, 2018, 12:54:45 pm
Yay PC Palettes!

Here's one of the games I worked on before I got went back to college to get some training...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWlGpPD6eao (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWlGpPD6eao)

Pitfalling, Side Scrolling AND isometric? Not bad at all! Also, oh damn, I know ISS. A friend of mine used to play the incredible shrinking sphere on the Amiga Commodore 64 his dad owned!

Hah!

Yeah the C64 version played better - seem to recall the Amiga play area was cut down in size so it was easier to port to the Atari ST, also did one called Brat, which was basically dropping control icons in front of Baby Herman to stop him wandering off the safe path.

Annoyingly we got an edict from the publisher to make him cooler, and it was literally baseball cap and shades, proper Poochy level stuff.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 26 March, 2018, 06:08:24 am
(https://i.imgur.com/9PmryIo.jpg)

I'm up late so here we go!

In our thrilling ninetieth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 293-296 of 2000AD, covering December of 1982. Join us as Judge Dredd catches the Executioner, Robo-Hunter sings a song, and we start our first Time Twister stories! I'm sure you'll enjoy our new time-based air horn!

Also, it looks like our oldest episodes are disappearing from the feeds, but they can still be found on the website. I'm taking steps to fix this!

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Google (https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Iyrcaybmzmrupjzvsk7rbme5ymy)
Stitcher (http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/stranger-by-the-dozen/space-spinner-2000)
Or on your favorite podcast app!

Please let me know what you think of the episode!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 26 March, 2018, 08:01:52 am
Well just making my way through this weeks episode and while I've not finished it yet I can pop in a little cultural reference for you.

Snork as referenced in the Dredd refers to Stork Margarine a butter sub from back in the day 9may well still make it who knows. Anyway here's an ad that has that makes use of a reference I've whittered about before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zUq6ZWhT8U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zUq6ZWhT8U)

Mind it would have been great if it had been used to refer to the other Snork that's sniffing its way into a prog near you soon...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 26 March, 2018, 11:33:35 am
"And your phone number" eesh.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 26 March, 2018, 01:35:19 pm
Another fun episode, but I don't know where you're doing your research on conkers - they're not hazelnuts, but Horse Chestnuts, (not the edible kind) - do those grow in the US? Big five-fingered leaves, spiky seed cases and big brown nuts? Every autumn you'd see kids hurling sticks up into the conker trees trying to knock them down, caring little for nearby pedestrians, cars or windows. It'snot as popular as it was  - Nowadays, the ground is littered with good conkers, but back in the day these would've been scavenged instantly, and most schools now ban the game on safety grounds, or insist on protective goggles (booo!). Smashing someone else's conker added to your conker's score - IIRC my record was a thirty-sixer. Cheats would bake them in the oven or soak them in vinegar. These school games were seasonal - autumn was conker season, whilst spring was marble season.

Stork's ad campaign for many years centred around not being able to tell the difference between Stork and butter. That ad for the Orbital puzzle also brought back memories - I've still got one of those dating back to Christmas '82!

Glad you're enjoying Robohunter, but I hated this story (in fact, I pretty much gave up on this strip after the world cup story, the gags just got more laboured and unfunny, apart from the occasional Hoagy/Stogie gem) I'm not a big fan of musicals in the movies, and I hate it when they do it in comics - it doesn't read well unless you actually sing along and that's not what I want from a comic!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 26 March, 2018, 02:08:57 pm
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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 26 March, 2018, 02:15:24 pm
I think I'm enjoying the space spinner sing-a-long version more than when I read it originally.

Phil Oakey, lead singer of the Human League was a reader (or at least wore a t-shirt), but I love the idea of Don't you want me being used...

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DudLeeNU10M/TI7ckfvrgfI/AAAAAAAAA_Q/aJuecXR01kg/s1600/glasses.jpg)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 26 March, 2018, 03:20:22 pm
Another fun episode, but I don't know where you're doing your research on conkers - they're not hazelnuts, but Horse Chestnuts, (not the edible kind) - do those grow in the US?

The chestnut/hazelnut thing is me having a massive brain fart and/or not know how different nuts work. Things like Conkers and Skittles are for sure Mysterious Albion to me!  The Orbitz is cool though, when I was checking things out for the show I ended up in a deep youtube hole looking at videos of late 70s early 80s toys!

Snork as referenced in the Dredd refers to Stork Margarine a butter sub from back in the day 9may well still make it who knows. Anyway here's an ad that has that makes use of a reference I've whittered about before.

Wow that is a ridiculous ad! We had similar things for margarine over here, but in the form of a product literally called "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter!" I had a lot of google problems this episode, both with Stork and with British Holiday Camps (which mostly gave me...a selection of Camp websites) but I've figured it out a bit by now. There's a pretty funny Wikipedia page about them that gives a list of famous Red coats and Blue coats, but doesn't take time to define what those are or what the difference between them is!

I think I'm enjoying the space spinner sing-a-long version more than when I read it originally.

Phil Oakey, lead singer of the Human League was a reader (or at least wore a t-shirt), but I love the idea of Don't you want me being used...

He gets mentioned as a fan in a Mega-Sounds column in a few weeks also. I'd assume that it's a copyright thing, but then there's a song from Tommy in there, which couldn't have been in the public domain in 1982!

I'll say, right now we're enjoying the novelty of a musical comic, I feel like this novelty wears off as we get further into it :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 26 March, 2018, 04:30:43 pm
Basically it's a uniform for staff depending on the company, Butlins Holiday Camp had redcoats, Pontins (a different company) had blue coats, Warners had greencoats and in the fictional Maplin holiday camp in Hi-de-hi they were yellowcoats.

So not summer camps as much as family holiday camps, where they had chalets to stay in, the kids would be entertained and the parents would have variety style entertainment in the evening.

They're still around, but with cheap flights at one end and places like Center Parcs they're not as popular as they were.

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Andy B on 26 March, 2018, 10:43:00 pm
Glad you're enjoying Robohunter, but I hated this story

Me too! Most of the songs were set to tunes of songs I didn’t even know: they were weirdly old-fashioned to a 13 year old. Wonder why? Presumably it’s not a copyright problem to just say something is set to a particular tune?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 28 March, 2018, 01:21:24 pm
We had similar things for margarine over here, but in the form of a product literally called "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter!"

Oh yeah, we have that too, but I think that came in later: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYn-RC2aOQM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYn-RC2aOQM)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 28 March, 2018, 04:12:43 pm

Oh yeah, we have that too, but I think that came in later: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYn-RC2aOQM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYn-RC2aOQM)

I thought that was going to be the David Baddiel routine on this with things like 'F*ck me! This is fish paste and I'll deck anyone who says otherwise!'
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 28 March, 2018, 05:19:52 pm
 :lol: ah yeah, wih I'd remembereds that one
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 01 April, 2018, 05:49:30 am
Big news coming up on Monday's show! But things might get a little weird with our feed this weekend. Hopefully it won't be a big deal.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 01 April, 2018, 09:11:57 am
Big news coming up on Monday's show!

Oh you tease you. You know we'll be listening anyway so why treat us this way!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 02 April, 2018, 05:27:08 am
(https://i.imgur.com/ukLRSy0.jpg)

In our thrilling ninety-first episode Fox and Conrad take a break from reviewing weekly progs to reminisce on the whole of 2000 AD comics for the year 1982. It’s a chance to reflect, review, and give out awards! Welcome to the 1982 Spinnies! At the end of every chronological year in our prog timeline we’ll give out awards to the storylines and thrills we liked best over the last year. Stay tuned after this awards for important show updates! Also, feel free to visit our new podcast site at SpaceSpinner2000.com (http://SpaceSpinner2000.com)!

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Gist of announcements:
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 06 April, 2018, 04:09:52 am
excellent episode as ever and thank god it wasn't a good news chums scenario although the changes are good news
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 09 April, 2018, 12:20:49 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/ix5ZHqX.jpg)

In our thrilling ninety-second episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 297-300 of 2000AD, covering January of 1983. Join us as Judge Dredd fights the last invader, Rogue Trooper goes clubbing, and Harry 20 takes off!

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Please let me know what you think of the episode!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 09 April, 2018, 03:15:25 pm
Oh Lord, are we up to the disco-Rogue cover? Can't wait hearing what you made of THAT one!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 09 April, 2018, 08:02:01 pm
Great stuff as always - thanks Conrad and Fox.

It hasn't been commented on as far as I can recall but I really like the colour effect that is applied to the artwork in your posts announcing each new show. Is it some clever effect from Photoshop or something that takes a lt of time on your part?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 09 April, 2018, 09:08:37 pm
Eamonn Clarke put me onto this podcast, it's great stuff.  Your unrestrained glee at ultraviolent deaths is nearly up there with Pete's! Also got to love how every strip is introduced in a movie trailer voice.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 09 April, 2018, 09:40:21 pm
Eamonn Clarke put me onto this podcast, it's great stuff.  Your unrestrained glee at ultraviolent deaths is nearly up there with Pete's! Also got to love how every strip is introduced in a movie trailer voice.

Thanks! "In a world...where grownups read 35 year old comic books!"

Great stuff as always - thanks Conrad and Fox.

It hasn't been commented on as far as I can recall but I really like the colour effect that is applied to the artwork in your posts announcing each new show. Is it some clever effect from Photoshop or something that takes a lt of time on your part?

Thanks! I do the initial photo editing in the old standby, MS Paint, then edit it using a photo editing app (I use the Prisma Photo Editor, but there are a bunch out there). Generally I use the Dallas filter, which I like because it smooths out the image (the images I snap from the progs are usually no more than 900x900 pixels, and they need to be 1400x1400 for iTunes) and brightens things up without getting too weird. It takes like 15 minutes, a lot of that is moving it between my computer to my phone and back, and it and social media stuff are what I do while I'm editing the show! (I know, I know, "you should focus more on editing there buddy"). I'm sure there are ways to do things better and more efficiently, but at this point I've done it for almost 90 episodes so it's almost second nature!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 11 April, 2018, 03:56:44 pm
conrad my man you know what next weeks thumbnail must be :lol:

its coming the best bit of harry 20 :lol:
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 11 April, 2018, 10:06:20 pm
It's a problem we all must FACE, choosing the right cover COMES up frequently. Still, I like to think we pull it OFF pretty well most episodes.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 12 April, 2018, 04:51:26 pm
heh heh heh heh
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 13 April, 2018, 12:55:11 am
It's a problem we all must FACE, choosing the right cover COMES up frequently. Still, I like to think we pull it OFF pretty well most episodes.

I might be misremembering, but I think that was the first episode of H20 I ever read...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 13 April, 2018, 08:43:53 am
what an insane first episode to join in on xd
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 13 April, 2018, 12:34:13 pm
In normal circumstances I'd praise this weeks episode with a casual - good as ever or the like, which is high praise.

However it would be inconceivable to not up the anti for anything that drops in Princess Bride references with some gloriously subtle quotations deserves extra special plaudits... so here have some extra plaudits... of the special kind.

Your name is Spacespinner 2000
You thrilled your audience
Prepare to... be... errr... mostly dead...

... that didn't work at the end there did it.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 13 April, 2018, 02:42:01 pm
my favourite was the loco guy trying to "one-flew-over-the-cuckoo's-nest his way off the High Rock"
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 16 April, 2018, 11:44:19 am
(https://i.imgur.com/Zd0AWE1.jpg)

In our thrilling ninety-third episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 301-304 of 2000AD, covering January and February of 1983. Join us as Judge Dredd heads to Shanty Town, Robo Hunter heads to a camp, and the Guinea Pig gets his revenge! Also, there MIGHT be a twist in this week’s Harry 20!

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Please let me know what you think of the episode!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 16 April, 2018, 07:37:07 pm
you guessed every name except KENNY Everett (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Everett)!

Possibly the funniest episode ever - black pearl maguffins, the return of danger acid, and of course climate cheese denial theories.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 16 April, 2018, 07:41:08 pm
I mean we knew this cover was the one coming but come on Disco Rogue. I'm no fan of Rogue but I LOVE disco Rogue.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 16 April, 2018, 08:36:39 pm
Disco Rogue is also a great cover, but Ben 90 is such an iconic one. We had a ton of fun with this episode, I must admit. Fox's reaction to Cheesus is now one of my favorite show moments :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 19 April, 2018, 05:32:46 pm
On another note, it was a year ago today that this thread was created! Both Fox and I have gotten a lot of love and support from this board, and we definitely super appreciate it! We're getting close to a couple awesome milestones for the show and I'm super stoked to share them all with you folks. Once again thanks for all the support, and here's to many more!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 19 April, 2018, 06:16:52 pm
On another note, it was a year ago today that this thread was created! Both Fox and I have gotten a lot of love and support from this board, and we definitely super appreciate it! We're getting close to a couple awesome milestones for the show and I'm super stoked to share them all with you folks. Once again thanks for all the support, and here's to many more!

Give yourself the credit (well you and the lovely Steve Green who started the thread) its a fantastic Podcast. Fresh entertaining and behind all the fun and frolics pretty smart.

Well done and thanks to you!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 19 April, 2018, 07:06:09 pm
Yep, episode 93 - bloody hilarious.  The second best podcast of the week (Brian Blessed on RHLSTP takes first place, sorry!) - I hope Cheesus has a second coming!   :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This was even better then Fox's reaction on every episode when you covered the Apocalypse War!  :o  :D

Here's to many more!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Andy B on 20 April, 2018, 12:14:30 am
We're getting close to a couple awesome milestones for the show

And also getting close to the Best Prog Ever... I’m excited to see what you guys make of late 1983!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 20 April, 2018, 12:26:21 am
yes i adore this and mega city bookclub its like the two podcasts i drop everything to listen to plus this podcast gave me that idea i did for the advent calender where i got my poor american friend to deal with 2000ad
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 20 April, 2018, 06:10:13 am
And also getting close to the Best Prog Ever... I’m excited to see what you guys make of late 1983!
Which prog is this?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Andy B on 20 April, 2018, 12:41:39 pm
And also getting close to the Best Prog Ever... I’m excited to see what you guys make of late 1983!
Which prog is this?

335. Just my opinion, obviously! I’m sure there’s a thread on that somewhere...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 20 April, 2018, 02:24:40 pm
I'm pretty stoked about that one too: the return of Nemesis and Strontium Dog, The Graveyard Shift, Venus Bluegenes, and McMahon starting on Slaine. Just from the table contents it's a very strong prog!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 20 April, 2018, 03:04:15 pm
And also getting close to the Best Prog Ever... I’m excited to see what you guys make of late 1983!
Which prog is this?

335. Just my opinion, obviously! I’m sure there’s a thread on that somewhere...

That was the first one where I became a regular reader (can't remember why, but I must have had problems buying the prog where I lived, because it wasn't until 350 until I started getting absolutely every week).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 20 April, 2018, 03:05:25 pm
And also getting close to the Best Prog Ever... I’m excited to see what you guys make of late 1983!
Which prog is this?

335. Just my opinion, obviously! I’m sure there’s a thread on that somewhere...

That was the first one where I became a regular reader (can't remember why, but I must have had problems buying the prog where I lived, because it wasn't until 350 until I started getting absolutely every week).

p.s. I doubt that I'd still be reading comics if it wasn't for Nemesis Book III - the fact that Sláine was also running didn't harm matters.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 20 April, 2018, 04:39:44 pm
And also getting close to the Best Prog Ever... I’m excited to see what you guys make of late 1983!
Which prog is this?

335. Just my opinion, obviously! I’m sure there’s a thread on that somewhere...

Statistically speaking, the prog that had the highest rating on Barney (back when Barney still had ratings!) was prog 324...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 23 April, 2018, 05:22:31 am
(https://i.imgur.com/CHCFkL2.jpg)

In our thrilling ninety-fourth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 305-308 of 2000AD, covering February and March of 1983. Join us as Judge Dredd takes on the Trapper Hag, Rogue Trooper takes on Napoleon, Harry 20 takes on the world, and Skizz takes on Gravity! Also some truly high quality time twisters!

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Stitcher (https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/stranger-by-the-dozen/space-spinner-2000)
Or on your favorite podcast app!

Please let me know what you think of the episode!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 23 April, 2018, 03:56:02 pm
Oh boy!  I hope Fox was prepared for the Authorised Retaliation to a correctly performed First of the Month Ritual!

'A slap and a kick, for being so quick!' supersedes the 'no returns!' clause...

Also, Fox's vision of the next Royal Wedding left me laughing so much that I missed the whole of the Harry 20 review and had to rewind it.

Skizz is my absolute favourite of Alan Moore's 2000AD work, even though it's probably the most 'bafflingly British' things you're likely to see. And pay very close attention, as nearly everything you see (including tiny background details) is Important Later.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 23 April, 2018, 04:08:04 pm
Oh boy!  I hope Fox was prepared for the Authorised Retaliation to a correctly performed First of the Month Ritual!

'A slap and a kick, for being so quick!' supersedes the 'no returns!' clause...

Also, Fox's vision of the next Royal Wedding left me laughing so much that I missed the whole of the Harry 20 review and had to rewind it.

Skizz is my absolute favourite of Alan Moore's 2000AD work, even though it's probably the most 'bafflingly British' things you're likely to see. And pay very close attention, as nearly everything you see (including tiny background details) is Important Later.

I forgot to get a report of Fox's experiences with it at the start of April, gotta check in!

Angela Merkel, Meghan Markle, same person basically!

I really like Skizz as well! I've been waiting to get to it almost since the show started, so I'm incredibly excited that we're finally talking about it, and that Fox is enjoying it :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 23 April, 2018, 06:02:22 pm
Jim Calladroid is James Callaghan, Labour PM before Thatcher.

Known as 'Sunny Jim'

Hard to see what the others are The Great something?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 24 April, 2018, 07:45:05 am
Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but I always think 'Skizz' owes as much to Alan Bleasdale's seminal TV drama 'Boys from the Black Stuff' as it does to 'ET'. In so far as it really helps identify key social differences between the backdrops of both stories. This has been fairly well covered in commentry of 'Skizz' in various places so you are very possibly well on with this, but worth mentioning just in case.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 24 April, 2018, 12:26:46 pm
Jim Calladroid is James Callaghan, Labour PM before Thatcher.

Known as 'Sunny Jim'

Hard to see what the others are The Great something?

Did Oswald Mosley get mentioned anywhere?  Inspiration for Iron Aggie's usurper, obviously, but I also think he's the inspiration for one of Torquemada's incarnations...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 24 April, 2018, 01:11:53 pm
I think it was right when he first appeared, but I definitely did call it out!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 24 April, 2018, 01:21:42 pm
Yeah, I was wondering whether you would pick up on it - when I read it as a kid, I didn't know who he was.

British Fascists weren't covered in English History when I was at school...

I also re-read the story when you were covering it, I'd forgotten how long it went on!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 24 April, 2018, 02:03:39 pm
I think it was right when he first appeared, but I definitely did call it out!

As Steve says - even British schoolchidren weren't told about our fascist past - as far as the official line goes, it was all Germans and Italians (with a little bit of Spain thrown in).  Must have been laughing to much to hear you mention - looking forward to the next episode :-)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 24 April, 2018, 02:13:36 pm
Quite a lot of the references seem to have been aimed at comic reading parents, IMO.

Oh, and 'The Reversible Man' was the first 2000 AD Story that kept me awake at night thinking about it afterwards.  I was eight years old in 1983.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 26 April, 2018, 06:35:03 am
(https://i.imgur.com/xGrU5bB.jpg)

In our thrilling ninety-fifth episode we continue our journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with the 1983 Sci-Fi Special of 2000AD. This Special has some great stories featuring Judge Dredd, including one with art by famous comics artist John Byrne, Rogue Trooper, and our all-time favorite Invasion story! QUACK QUACK VOLG!
 
This episode Conrad is joined by Steve Lacey of the Fantasticast podcast! Every week Steve and co-host Andy Leyland recap an issue of the Fantastic Four or a related comic, and is well worth your time!

Find their show at: http://www.thefantasticast.com/

and find Steve on Twitter where he’s @quizlacey

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Stitcher (https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/stranger-by-the-dozen/space-spinner-2000)
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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 26 April, 2018, 08:04:23 pm
What a treat - thanks Conrad and Steve! I don't have any recollection of this one so it may be one I missed. No crazy Britsh 80's references to clear up on this since Steve was on hand.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 26 April, 2018, 08:53:15 pm
I must say, having actual English people on the show to explain English things has been one of the unexpected great things about this process!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 26 April, 2018, 08:59:52 pm
We have our uses!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 27 April, 2018, 12:53:20 am
holy crap what a crossover!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 27 April, 2018, 01:42:24 pm
Alan Moore's run on Swamp Thing didn't start until January 1984, but by coincidence in 1983 he was singing a jaunty tune alongside Northampton Goth group Bauhaus that includes a line from the 1983 2000 AD Sci-Fi Special...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGL8Fx6SOjg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGL8Fx6SOjg)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 30 April, 2018, 05:28:14 am
(https://i.imgur.com/BMcEoZ9.jpg)

In our thrilling ninety-sixth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 309-312 of 2000AD, covering March and April of 1983. Join us as the Starborn Thing arrives in Mega City One, Skizz gets to know Birmingham, Fort Neuro concludes, and the Chrono Cops enforce time law. Just the facts! Also feel free to celebrate, as we’ve now covered 15% of 2000AD!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 30 April, 2018, 07:56:50 am
Just finished episode 95 and while its fair to say I missed Fox it was great to hear different input and that was another fantastic (no pun intended... well maybe just a little) episode. Think the new format for presenters is going to work a treat!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 30 April, 2018, 11:27:04 am
This forum has had a ... troublesome ... relationship with John Byrne - he said some very uncomplimentary things about Alan Moore and British creators in general on his own forum (tried to find the thread but couldn't locate it - anyone help?). Someone here (Jim Campbell maybe?) used to keep an eye on his rather bizarre online fiefdom and post some of the more outlandish exchanges and ego trips for our amusement. I get the impression he's a bit of a  dick (but he can draw comics, although I'm not a huge fan of that style - 80s Marvel was all pouches shoulderpads and bad haircuts)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 April, 2018, 11:35:06 am


Behold the legend: https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=17355.0
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 30 April, 2018, 12:54:41 pm
ah yes, thanks - that brings back some memories  :lol:
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 30 April, 2018, 02:44:43 pm
Wow, I had no idea there was so much backstory behind all this!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Andy B on 01 May, 2018, 03:26:41 am
Just reread Skizz for first time in a long time: forgotten just how great it is, and it’s aged really well.

Alan Moore really was the master of telling a story in short episodes that have a satisfying structure of their own, but also move the story forwards. His 80s output is so good it just doesn’t seem possible for one guy to have done it!

(Just for the record, there are no nuclear power stations in Birmingham, which is as far from the sea as you can get in the UK. Plenty of chimneys, though - birthplace of the Industrial Revolution!)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 01 May, 2018, 10:01:36 pm
Just reread Skizz for first time in a long time: forgotten just how great it is, and it’s aged really well.

Alan Moore really was the master of telling a story in short episodes that have a satisfying structure of their own, but also move the story forwards. His 80s output is so good it just doesn’t seem possible for one guy to have done it!

(Just for the record, there are no nuclear power stations in Birmingham, which is as far from the sea as you can get in the UK. Plenty of chimneys, though - birthplace of the Industrial Revolution!)

The furthest point from the sea is in Derbyshire - maybe you're thinking of the 'centre of the UK', in Coventry (not far from Brum)?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 01 May, 2018, 10:23:45 pm
That's so weird, because nuclear cooling towers do seem to show up in Skizz imagry a bit, both in the opening comic and even in teasers for upcoming progs, like this one:

(https://i.imgur.com/2Hu1DTw.png)

Maybe these are just regular smokestacks and I'm making assumptions? That said, I really love Skizz. There's so much character stuff in it, especially for Roxy, Skizz, Loz, and even Cornelius. It's a big change from the average 2000AD story of the time, but it also somehow fits right in. Very excited to cover it more!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 01 May, 2018, 10:59:30 pm
They're not nuclear power stations necessarily - cooling towers are all over the place for non-nuke power stations in the UK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didcot_power_stations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didcot_power_stations)

All the nuclear stations in the UK are on the coast.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_the_United_Kingdom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_the_United_Kingdom)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Andy B on 02 May, 2018, 02:42:24 pm
That said, I really love Skizz. There's so much character stuff in it, especially for Roxy, Skizz, Loz, and even Cornelius. It's a big change from the average 2000AD story of the time, but it also somehow fits right in. Very excited to cover it more!

I didn’t know anything about UK girls comics (which were huge in the 70s and 80s) until I read the recent ‘Misty’ reprints.

Reading Skizz again now, it seems clear it was influenced more by those girls comics than by anything in 2000ad itself. The schoolgirl protagonist (obviously), the emphasis on characters with realistic emotions, and the (wonderful) Jim Baikie art: could easily have run in ‘Jinty’.

An early example of 2000ad soaking up influences from all over until it was the last comic standing. Next up: Sword & Sorcery!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Andy B on 02 May, 2018, 02:45:26 pm
The furthest point from the sea is in Derbyshire - maybe you're thinking of the 'centre of the UK', in Coventry (not far from Brum)?

Yes I was - the nearby Meridan (or so it is said). Damn: geographic nit-picking, and I started it!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 02 May, 2018, 04:06:43 pm
(https://cdn1.28dayslater.co.uk/xf/2017/07/1467561_b5daf0a80bd8a4b839b670c282acb233.jpg)

That is, or was, the Nechells coal fired power station in Birmingham. I grew up not too far from there.
It closed in 1982 and was subsequently demolished. It's now the Star city shopping mall/entertainment multiplex, but then again isn't everything these days?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 02 May, 2018, 05:02:07 pm
This is really interesting stuff! I think some combination of SimCity and the Simpsons made me assume that those big towers were just for nuclear plants. Always learning new stuff for this show!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Andy B on 02 May, 2018, 05:06:49 pm
By the way, nice shout-out to Dave Gibbons on this weeks show. For anybody who doesn’t know, the reason he didn’t do that much in 2000ad between Dan Dare and Rogue Trooper is, he was drawing Doctor Who for Marvel UK.

And an excellent job he made of it: it’s all available in three collections, ‘The Iron Legion’, ‘Dragon’s Claw’ (with bonus Mike McMahon), and ‘The Tides of Time’. The first volume is written by John Wagner and Pat Mills, and if you imagine Dr Who as an early 80s 2000ad story, it’s exactly like what you’re imagining.

Anybody who enjoys this period of 2000ad should definitely check out the first book at least. Thinking about it, one of those stories (‘The Star Beast’), would make an interesting double-feature with Skizz...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 02 May, 2018, 05:45:06 pm
Anybody who enjoys this period of 2000ad should definitely check out the first book at least. Thinking about it, one of those stories (‘The Star Beast’), would make an interesting double-feature with Skizz...

Nonsense! Everybody knows there's no thrills worth sucking at Marvel UK...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 02 May, 2018, 05:54:18 pm
By the way, nice shout-out to Dave Gibbons on this weeks show. For anybody who doesn’t know, the reason he didn’t do that much in 2000ad between Dan Dare and Rogue Trooper is, he was drawing Doctor Who for Marvel UK.

And an excellent job he made of it: it’s all available in three collections, ‘The Iron Legion’, ‘Dragon’s Claw’ (with bonus Mike McMahon), and ‘The Tides of Time’. The first volume is written by John Wagner and Pat Mills, and if you imagine Dr Who as an early 80s 2000ad story, it’s exactly like what you’re imagining.

Anybody who enjoys this period of 2000ad should definitely check out the first book at least. Thinking about it, one of those stories (‘The Star Beast’), would make an interesting double-feature with Skizz...

Stay tuned to another 2000AD podcast for an episode on the Iron Legion volume from Panini which is coming up on May 13th, and we do mention similarities between the Star Beast and Skizz.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 03 May, 2018, 03:54:05 pm
god the doctor who weekly/monthly/whenever the hell its released now are good stuff
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 07 May, 2018, 05:20:36 am
(https://i.imgur.com/xTVPPjZ.jpg)

In our thrilling ninety-seventh episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 313-329 of 2000AD, covering April and May of 1983. Join us as Skizz gets sick, Slade gets dead, and Dredd gets pregnant!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 08 May, 2018, 08:32:51 pm
I consider this to be the last proper Sam Slade story and it was a shame to see the character written off like this. Has any background into what happened ever come out? Were Wagner and Grant just bored of him?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 08 May, 2018, 09:23:17 pm
I consider this to be the last proper Sam Slade story and it was a shame to see the character written off like this. Has any background into what happened ever come out? Were Wagner and Grant just bored of him?

It seems a bit like that to me, both Play it Again Sam and this storyline have a fair amount of filler in them imo (all the different songs, or the section we'll be getting next episode that's basically a clip show of previous robo hunter stories). Plus we're right on the verge of a sea change for authorship in 2000AD. As opposed to the last year or two where basically every non-future shock has been either Wagner/Grant or Finely-Day, we're now seeing Alan Moore come on the scene with extended stories (first Skizz, then DR & Quinch, then Halo Jones) and Pat Mills is on the verge of arriving with both Slaine and fairly regular Nemesis storylines. There clearly isn't room for all that PLUS Robo Hunter and Strontium Dog, so I could see them working to get all the story lines they wanted to tell and get it all finished up in time for Prog 335. Of course, it's a telling detail that they only revisit Sam once, two years later. But all this is based on looking at the text, instead of actual back story :D

Also, I like the Peter Hogan/Rian Hughes installment of Robo Hunter, though I understand it wasn't popular at the time, and I'm very interested to check out the Samantha Slade stuff, but of course that's way way in the future!

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 08 May, 2018, 09:56:08 pm
Also, I like the Peter Hogan/Rian Hughes installment of Robo Hunter, though I understand it wasn't popular at the time, and I'm very interested to check out the Samantha Slade stuff, but of course that's way way in the future!

Yep to the Peter Hogan / Rian Hughes stuff its great and I'm a big fan of the Samantha Slade stuff too.

Aren't we all forgetting the brilliant 'Farewell my billions'. Absolutely love that story.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 14 May, 2018, 08:03:04 am
Sorry getting a little ahead of the posts here, but just started listening to Episode 98 and its absolutely fantastic stuff. Its so interesting hearing Fox's frustration at the current batch of stories. The juxtaposition of the jump in quality from what I think is the weakest of the original Robo-Hunter stories in 'Death of' to the joy of Skizz is just fascinating and kinda foreshadows the shift I suspect will come if you compare the quality of thrills over all in this batch and what will be coming shortly.

The shift in quality between say Prog 319 and Prog 335 is quite something to behold!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 14 May, 2018, 11:29:04 am
(https://i.imgur.com/STdDsPI.jpg)

In our thrilling ninety-eighth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 317-320 of 2000AD, covering May and June of 1983. Join us as Rogue Trooper remembers Milli-Comm, Dredd checks out Condos, and DR and Quinch have fun on Earth!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 14 May, 2018, 11:34:05 am
Sorry getting a little ahead of the posts here, but just started listening to Episode 98 and its absolutely fantastic stuff. Its so interesting hearing Fox's frustration at the current batch of stories. The juxtaposition of the jump in quality from what I think is the weakest of the original Robo-Hunter stories in 'Death of' to the joy of Skizz is just fascinating and kinda foreshadows the shift I suspect will come if you compare the quality of thrills over all in this batch and what will be coming shortly.

The shift in quality between say Prog 319 and Prog 335 is quite something to behold!

I do really think it's interesting how Robo-Hunter being kind of a bummer can bring the whole set of progs down. It really speaks to the importance of a good opening story! It's kind of a bummer to see Robo-Hunter in this decline, but 335 is on the horizon and I for one and super stoked!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 14 May, 2018, 05:21:19 pm
I honestly like this batch of progs.

The first time I read this Sam Slade story I had not yet read Verdus or Day of The Driods so this stepping back through Sam's history was not a problem for me. It may not be the greatest of the Robo Hunter cases but it is still Sam Slade and I enjoy him while I can.

I liked the Time Twisters too and with DR and Quinch being the obvious highlight.

The Stupid Gun was fun and could Condo be seen as an early attempt at a more Procedural Drama Dredd story? It is not a particularly memorable one but it works fine for me and has Ezquerra's art.

Rogue's memories give insight into the formative years of the GIs and that's a nice break from the usual Nu-Earth based stuff.

No need to say anything about Skizz since the praise is fairly unanimous on this one.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 16 May, 2018, 10:20:53 pm
I honestly like this batch of progs.

The first time I read this Sam Slade story I had not yet read Verdus or Day of The Driods so this stepping back through Sam's history was not a problem for me. It may not be the greatest of the Robo Hunter cases but it is still Sam Slade and I enjoy him while I can.

The Slaying of Slade was running in the first progs I ever read - with the first prog I bought being the last episode - also of Skizz - upsetting for me as it was one of the things that got me in to the prog!  Only a few weeks until 335 though, with one of the strongest line-ups there has ever been! I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that I wouldn't still be reading comics all these years later if it wasn't for the 1983 line-up in 2000AD!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 17 May, 2018, 01:38:07 am
It's going to be a monster of a wrap up. Picking a bottom OR a top for that month will be a challenge!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 17 May, 2018, 05:15:02 am
(https://i.imgur.com/vNAf0q4.jpg)

In our thrilling ninety-ninth episode we continue our journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with the 1983 Sci-Fi Special of 2000AD. This is the fourth Dredd Annual, and once again we have Carlos Ezquerra drawing three new full color Dredd stories, as well as classic Dredd, some features, and another Jose Casanovas Max Normal.

This time I'm joined by Eamonn Clarke of the Mega City Book Club, who you surely know from around this forum!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 17 May, 2018, 01:02:01 pm
I honestly like this batch of progs.

The first time I read this Sam Slade story I had not yet read Verdus or Day of The Driods so this stepping back through Sam's history was not a problem for me. It may not be the greatest of the Robo Hunter cases but it is still Sam Slade and I enjoy him while I can.

The Slaying of Slade was running in the first progs I ever read - with the first prog I bought being the last episode - also of Skizz - upsetting for me as it was one of the things that got me in to the prog!  Only a few weeks until 335 though, with one of the strongest line-ups there has ever been! I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that I wouldn't still be reading comics all these years later if it wasn't for the 1983 line-up in 2000AD!


Stunned that Fox thought this same line-up was one of the weaker periods - but then I didn't like the first book of the Brutannia Chronicles (which seemed to garner heaps of acclaim) and have liked some of the later books more (when everybody else seems to be going off it).  (Hate the typeface for the cythrons though).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 17 May, 2018, 05:38:50 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/vNAf0q4.jpg)

In our thrilling ninety-ninth episode we continue our journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with the 1983 Sci-Fi Special of 2000AD. This is the fourth Dredd Annual, and once again we have Carlos Ezquerra drawing three new full color Dredd stories, as well as classic Dredd, some features, and another Jose Casanovas Max Normal.

This time I'm joined by Eamonn Clarke of the Mega City Book Club, who you surely know from around this forum!

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Well I for one love it! And I’m not at all biased.

Podcasts collide as the skies turn red. Watch out if your name is Flash.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Pyroxian on 17 May, 2018, 05:50:37 pm
Stunned that Fox thought this same line-up was one of the weaker periods - but then I didn't like the first book of the Brutannia Chronicles (which seemed to garner heaps of acclaim) and have liked some of the later books more (when everybody else seems to be going off it).  (Hate the typeface for the cythrons though).

I can see his point though - Dredd is good, but can't hold a candle to the Apocalypse War, which was only a couple of months ago, and Robo Hunter is definitely on a bit of a decline (although it does pick up after this IMO). I'd still say each prog is a solid 4.5 / 5 though :)


Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 17 May, 2018, 09:44:14 pm
I suspect reading in real time as us old timers did vs the condensed reading for the podcast hasnt helped these stories - I was surprised how vexed Fox was, but it does make sense when a story (or stories) are underperforming from previous high peaks... I always think the balance of more Alan Moore more than makes up for a few semi sluggish Grover scripts, and with the return of Pat at his finest and Stront at HIS finest.... hang in there our (non robot) pal!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 17 May, 2018, 10:26:45 pm
... I always think the balance of more Alan Moore more than makes up for...

You only said that so you could get more/Moore three times in four words, right?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 17 May, 2018, 10:40:05 pm
... I always think the balance of more Alan Moore more than makes up for...

You only said that so you could get more/Moore three times in four words, right?

busted!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 17 May, 2018, 11:12:54 pm
I didn't get the reference to Ron Smith and "that thing with the clock"  :-*
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 18 May, 2018, 01:31:52 am
One thing I’ve heard a lot about Ron Smith was that he’d figure out how much his paycheck worked out for to allow his to work a reasonable work week, and then he’d divide that evenly over each page he worked on, literally setting an alarm clock for each page, and once it went off that page was done. I’m not sure how real that, but I’ve heard it several times.

To me this feels like people are accusing him of being lazy or something, which to me isn’t really borne out by the level of detail and amount of stuff going on in them, you know?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2018, 02:30:03 am

Ron was just talented, reaching a point where he could bypass the pencil stage and go straight for the inks – brush to page.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 18 May, 2018, 09:02:24 am
ah of course, I have heard that story - I assumed it referred to something he'd drawn and was racking my brains for a Dredd story that featured a clock!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 18 May, 2018, 01:19:44 pm
Has he made any appearances since Free Comic Book Day 2012 (which I couldn't attend?)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 21 May, 2018, 05:14:40 am
(https://i.imgur.com/BD7HprT.jpg)

In our thrilling one hundreth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 321-324 of 2000AD, covering June and July of 1983. Join us as Sam Slade goes full ghost, Skizz goes full caper, Dredd goes full werewolf, and we go full bore because it’s the 100th episode!!! Conrad has had too much to drink in celebration, will he survive to the end of the episode!?

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Thanks to everyone here for your support as we reach this milestone! Here's to many hundreds more episodes!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 21 May, 2018, 03:30:29 pm
Congratulations on 100 episodes, guys!

Stay tuned till June with is Spacespinner 2000 month on Mega City Book Club.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 21 May, 2018, 09:14:01 pm
congrats on the first hundred lot of good stuff for the next 100 then....well...err :o
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 22 May, 2018, 06:08:32 am
Congratulations on and thanks for your first century of excellent podcasts. Zarjaz!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 22 May, 2018, 06:41:20 pm
Congrats again to Conrad for making it to the end of the episode.  :lol:

And I was wrong, July is Space Spinner month in the book club.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 22 May, 2018, 06:50:57 pm
"For the record" is maybe the phrase of the show.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 22 May, 2018, 09:06:05 pm
Good work lads! This is a really special podcast.

I think it is right that the Robo Hunter chair thing is having a laugh at British apathy, unfriendliness, and inertia while also managing to squeeze in a distaste for seeing people enjoying themselves in public. These character traits are probably more pronounced in the south of England than in the North or Scotland.

Sherbert came up during this episode and Conrad described it as being something like toothpaste. It is actually a powder - indistinguishable from icing sugar to look at or touch but it tastes sweeter, sharper and fizzier than sugar. You eat it by dipping either liquorice (yuck), a lolly pop, or your finger into it.

Thanks for the heads up about Where Eagles Dare. Listening to them discuss Doomlord made me realise I need a Doomlord collection but have found none exists which is a shame.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 22 May, 2018, 09:33:18 pm
In a wonderful bit of coincidence one of my art entries, Tharg the ZX Spectrum appeared in this batch of progs.

Yeah, London has a reputation for people being unfriendly, not talking/making eye contact on the tube etc.

I was surprised Sherbert isn't a thing in the US. I guess the closest analogy is a milder version of space dust, no popping - it's sort of like lemon flavoured bicarbonate of soda, so if you stuck a load in your mouth it would foam/fizz up.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 May, 2018, 09:42:24 pm
Sherbet is like Cocaine.


(https://traditionalsshop.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/sherbet-fountain-1024x757.jpg)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 22 May, 2018, 09:48:38 pm
Though never EVER snort it. Please God don't snort it.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 May, 2018, 09:58:17 pm


It had to done, at least once.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 22 May, 2018, 10:07:34 pm
Oh yeah sure you start on the Sherbat but then you move to the hard stuff.

I mean have you ever tried to snort a Fox's Glacier Mint?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 22 May, 2018, 10:10:58 pm
Just stay off the 1970s racist sweets. That's not cool.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 23 May, 2018, 07:37:28 am
Big round of applause for surviving that chaps - did I even hear a bit of a 'mouth sick' at one point?

Such a delight and the drunken fun is kinda like making it double sized with a hologram cover, just makes it that little bit more fun and special.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 23 May, 2018, 01:29:39 pm
That was great fun - congratulations on reaching 100, seems like only yesterday! It should be a law that all podcast anniversary episodes must be done drunk (although Fox has some disgusting taste in beverages).  If anything, it was more professional than most episodes, apart from a slightly chaotic start.

Sherbert came up during this episode and Conrad described it as being something like toothpaste. It is actually a powder - indistinguishable from icing sugar to look at or touch but it tastes sweeter, sharper and fizzier than sugar. You eat it by dipping either liquorice (yuck), a lolly pop, or your finger into it.

*Tchoh*, Philistine - the bitter saltiness of the liquorice in the Sherbet Fountain contrasts perfectly with the sweet sherbet; unlike the inferior Sherbet Dib-Dab which had a hard candy stick making a sickly sweet/sweet combo.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 23 May, 2018, 04:41:08 pm
Big round of applause for surviving that chaps - did I even hear a bit of a 'mouth sick' at one point?

Such a delight and the drunken fun is kinda like making it double sized with a hologram cover, just makes it that little bit more fun and special.

As I was constantly saying during the episode, I'm not gonna lie to you, I was having a rough time by the end. I'm glad everyone enjoyed this episode, I'm not sure we'll repeat this for episode 200 :D

I just want to say that I love these "Two Nations Divided By A Common Language" moments about childhood snacks. In my experience sherbet is a kind of ice cream (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorbet#Distinction_from_sherbet), usually fruit flavored (Orange, Boysenberry, and "Rainbow" were the big ones). We did have powdered sugar stuff, mostly famously Pixie Sticks, which were just colored and flavored sugar in paper straws, though there was also Fun Dip (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fun_Dip), which seems similar to British sherbet, which was colored sugar you ate using a stick made out of hardened sugar. The opened package of sherbet above is blowing my mind slightly.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 23 May, 2018, 04:55:56 pm
Conrad and Fox react to british snacks spinoff vidcast?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 23 May, 2018, 11:17:39 pm
Hahahaha!! 100th episode - brilliant! Well done both. You both sounded totally wrecked.  :lol:

I have to admit to skipping an episode to get to 100, so now I’m going to hit reverse and check out the awesome Eammon on your show.  :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 24 May, 2018, 07:23:59 pm
Conrad and Fox react to british snacks spinoff vidcast?

Immediate interest.

(although Fox has some disgusting taste in beverages). 

I love a good cocktail. Berlin is strangely short of quality mixing ingredients and specialty mixers. My dream was to make a Blockmania, which I imagine is absinthe, mixed with almost anything that makes the drink more tolerable. That's a lot of experimenting with wormwood I just didn't want to do.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 24 May, 2018, 07:46:52 pm
Top it with a 4-cred Freezy-whip
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 24 May, 2018, 10:03:11 pm


Just don't try a Nemesis...

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 25 May, 2018, 02:59:24 pm
Top it with a 4-cred Freezy-whip

No way dude, those things are just way too dangerous!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 26 May, 2018, 11:47:47 pm
Congratulations on your Century! 

I have just read Skizz again, and (this might be the Brummie in me talking) I'm thinking this is the equal, if not the best thing Alan Moore ever did.  Comics perfection!

Also reread "The Time Machine", my favourite of all Alan Moore's shorts for Tharg - I feel like I shouldnt't like it - the message is a bit.... grim at best?  But I think it is just beautiful and sad and totally wrong for a kids comic, which is what makes it exactly right for 2000AD

Fox - set robo-tearducts to maximum capacity!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 28 May, 2018, 12:27:52 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/Jz3aX8K.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and first episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 325-329 of 2000AD, covering July and August of 1983. Join us as Skizz reaches its climax, Rogue Trooper fights the press, Sam Slade gets back on the case, and Dredd is a dang werewolf!

Direct Download (http://ow.ly/VL2I30kdaym)
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Stitcher (https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/stranger-by-the-dozen/space-spinner-2000)
Or on your favorite podcast app!

Please let me know what you think of the episode!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 28 May, 2018, 12:29:45 pm
Congratulations on your Century! 

I have just read Skizz again, and (this might be the Brummie in me talking) I'm thinking this is the equal, if not the best thing Alan Moore ever did.  Comics perfection!

Also reread "The Time Machine", my favourite of all Alan Moore's shorts for Tharg - I feel like I shouldnt't like it - the message is a bit.... grim at best?  But I think it is just beautiful and sad and totally wrong for a kids comic, which is what makes it exactly right for 2000AD

Fox - set robo-tearducts to maximum capacity!

Skizz is so great! Also, while I prefer The Reversible Man a bit more, both it and The Time Machine take a very melacholy tone that I think is amazing!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 28 May, 2018, 12:58:42 pm
Die Hard on a space ship is Space Mutiny. They've stolen hours of effects footage from Battlestar Galactica and they're not afraid to go up to speeds of 3!

The Undercity as a D&D campaign setting, you say? Why not try The Rookie's Guide to the Undercity (wot I wrote).  It's out of print, but Amazon has a used copy in good condition for the bargain price of £10,202.51...

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 28 May, 2018, 07:13:27 pm
Thanks Conrad and Fox!

I was one of the runners up in the Robo Machines competition and it was a huge thrill to get a letter from Therg on 2000AD headed notepaper. My memory of the toy thing is that Robo Machines were on the market first but didn't have a big impact and were then pretty much forgotten once Transformers came out.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 28 May, 2018, 09:25:25 pm
"Eureka!" is my other top Alan Moore one-off!

The brilliance of it is, that the idea being spread about is Alan Moore's ofted talked about belief in the idea of time as a Four Dimensional Solid, which if you investigate it, is not only a sound and very plausible explanation for how the Universe works, but also fits the idea that once you've heard it, you can't go back (I've certainly adopted it, so the strip did its job on me!) - "all time is simultaneous..." (if you could step out of it and observe it in its four dimensions, so we are living eternally in a heaven or hell that we make for ourselves here and now - scary or reassuring, depending on your p.o.v.!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: I, Cosh on 28 May, 2018, 10:34:50 pm
Allnow is love.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 29 May, 2018, 03:05:51 am
Die Hard on a space ship is Space Mutiny. They've stolen hours of effects footage from Battlestar Galactica and they're not afraid to go up to speeds of 3!

The Undercity as a D&D campaign setting, you say? Why not try The Rookie's Guide to the Undercity (wot I wrote).  It's out of print, but Amazon has a used copy in good condition for the bargain price of £10,202.51...

My "Die Hard in a [sci fi setting]" library is surprisingly small, though I think I have seen stuff for Space Mutiny! I'd probably get the used copy for $13 if it's all the same to you, though I'll also say that I've had problems running RPGs for intellectual properties that I love but other people aren't that familiar with. It happened with the Warhammer 40K rpg I tried to run, and I'm sure it would happen with a Dredd game :D

Thanks Conrad and Fox!

I was one of the runners up in the Robo Machines competition and it was a huge thrill to get a letter from Therg on 2000AD headed notepaper. My memory of the toy thing is that Robo Machines were on the market first but didn't have a big impact and were then pretty much forgotten once Transformers came out.

I think they came out at roughly the same time here in the states? But go-bots were definitely the store brand transformers. Though they DID get their own movie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoBots:_Battle_of_the_Rock_Lords), where they fought lame robots that turned into rocks or something. I believe I saw it when it came out, but since that was 30 years ago I can't be trusted for details!

"Eureka!" is my other top Alan Moore one-off!

The brilliance of it is, that the idea being spread about is Alan Moore's ofted talked about belief in the idea of time as a Four Dimensional Solid, which if you investigate it, is not only a sound and very plausible explanation for how the Universe works, but also fits the idea that once you've heard it, you can't go back (I've certainly adopted it, so the strip did its job on me!) - "all time is simultaneous..." (if you could step out of it and observe it in its four dimensions, so we are living eternally in a heaven or hell that we make for ourselves here and now - scary or reassuring, depending on your p.o.v.!

Haha, the problems with the mysteries of the universe is that sometimes I'm not smart enough to understand the inital points! Maybe it's just the crew surrounding the narrator and forcing him to hear the idea at the end, but Eureka! always reminds of The Game  (http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Game_(episode))episode of Star Trek TNG.

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 29 May, 2018, 08:13:39 am
Happy to report I heard a lot of love for Spacespinner at this weekend's Lawgiver IV con - I talked to several people who were listening, and recommended it to a few who weren't.


Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Pyroxian on 29 May, 2018, 09:59:12 am
Robo Machines also had their own strip in Eagle - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robo_Machines_(comics) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robo_Machines_(comics))
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 29 May, 2018, 07:43:08 pm
Happy to report I heard a lot of love for Spacespinner at this weekend's Lawgiver IV con - I talked to several people who were listening, and recommended it to a few who weren't.

Awesome! I really appreciate it! Next year I'm really hoping to get out and show the flag at at least one convention over there, but that is very much in the "wouldn't it be cool if..." stage right now :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 29 May, 2018, 08:56:07 pm
By which time, my Skizz Tour of Birmingham will be up and running!  (I jest, but expect at least one photo of a "then and now" Skizz location just down the road from work!

Happy to report I heard a lot of love for Spacespinner at this weekend's Lawgiver IV con - I talked to several people who were listening, and recommended it to a few who weren't.

Awesome! I really appreciate it! Next year I'm really hoping to get out and show the flag at at least one convention over there, but that is very much in the "wouldn't it be cool if..." stage right now :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 29 May, 2018, 09:15:00 pm
By which time, my Skizz Tour of Birmingham will be up and running!  (I jest, but expect at least one photo of a "then and now" Skizz location just down the road from work!

The underpass near the Bullring?  I'm guessing the canals with smoke stacks would be a bit generic (though maybe...)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 29 May, 2018, 09:17:24 pm
Robo Machines also had their own strip in Eagle - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robo_Machines_(comics) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robo_Machines_(comics))

Tom Tully and Kim Raymond?  Interesting...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 29 May, 2018, 10:59:07 pm
The Peace Gardens on Holloway Head (though why Cornelius thinks thats a good place to be at that particular point!

By which time, my Skizz Tour of Birmingham will be up and running!  (I jest, but expect at least one photo of a "then and now" Skizz location just down the road from work!

The underpass near the Bullring?  I'm guessing the canals with smoke stacks would be a bit generic (though maybe...)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 29 May, 2018, 11:12:26 pm
The Peace Gardens on Holloway Head (though why Cornelius thinks thats a good place to be at that particular point!

I think I've been through there - was there a large London Eye-style Ferris Wheel there about a decade and a half ago?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 30 May, 2018, 05:01:25 am
Hey everyone, we're a couple days away from taping our 1983 year in review show, the Spinnies! I'd love to hear what you guys thought about 1983 in the Galaxy's Greatest, and if there's anything you'd like us to discuss on the show. Anyhow, get your golden tuxedos ready! :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 30 May, 2018, 07:13:09 am
1983 sure was the year i was born in....yup
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 30 May, 2018, 01:55:43 pm
There seems to be a preference for longer form stories on Dredd, especially from Fox which is interesting. (maybe less so on Robohunter).

I guess Dredd of that period in particular tends to pack a lot more in, so even the longer stories don't drag.

Also quite surprised that something that's heavily influenced by UK drama like Skizz stands the test of time and with an international audience - I guess some things are universal.

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 30 May, 2018, 02:08:47 pm
The Complete Skizz is half price in the 2000 AD Shop right now...

https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/XB611 (https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/XB611)

...and I'm seriously tempted to buy even though it'll eventually turn up as part of the Hachette Ultimate Collection, as those particular progs were the ones I used to loan out to my RPG group as part of my Introduction to Dredd and they're subsequently in a pretty tatty state...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 30 May, 2018, 02:29:23 pm
The Complete Skizz is half price in the 2000 AD Shop right now...

https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/XB611 (https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/XB611)

...and I'm seriously tempted to buy even though it'll eventually turn up as part of the Hachette Ultimate Collection, as those particular progs were the ones I used to loan out to my RPG group as part of my Introduction to Dredd and they're subsequently in a pretty tatty state...

I was stoked that Skizz was half price, I bought the digital version to have a better picture of the color page from prog 329!

1983 sure was the year i was born in....yup

Haha, I must admit that i'm excited to actually get to years I have memories of!

There seems to be a preference for longer form stories on Dredd, especially from Fox which is interesting. (maybe less so on Robohunter).

I guess Dredd of that period in particular tends to pack a lot more in, so even the longer stories don't drag.

Also quite surprised that something that's heavily influenced by UK drama like Skizz stands the test of time and with an international audience - I guess some things are universal.

I'm split between the big epic stories and the super short ones, in terms of my faves. There's one coming up, "The Suspect" where there's a guy who has three jobs and Dredd finds him out, and it's a lot of fun! But way off on the horizon I see City of the Damned looming and I get very excited :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 30 May, 2018, 02:31:37 pm
BTW I see Hibernia have the digital versions of their specials on UK comics, including Beyond 2000 AD available.

Worth a look if you haven't read them.

https://www.facebook.com/HiberniaComics/?ref=br_rs
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 31 May, 2018, 12:27:41 am
Hey everyone, we're a couple days away from taping our 1983 year in review show, the Spinnies! I'd love to hear what you guys thought about 1983 in the Galaxy's Greatest, and if there's anything you'd like us to discuss on the show. Anyhow, get your golden tuxedos ready! :D

I want to hear everything, as it's the year I started to read 2000AD.  I think I mentioned it in Eamonn's podcast (the first Ballad of Halo Jones one), but I was given about nine or ten progs between 308 and 322 by a neighbour when I was eight years old.  The first prog I bought was 330, I started to buy most weeks from 335 and started to buy every week from 350, so my 'firsts' were also firsts for Skizz, Slaine, Nemesis the Warlock Book III (and I think the Malak Brood story), and The Killing.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Funt Solo on 02 June, 2018, 10:56:28 pm
This podcast is great.  I collected and read 2000AD from about prog 178 (then years later buying progs 1-177) and then I stopped getting it at prog 1683 - partly because I'd moved to the US and import costs became an issue.

So, I was having a nostalgia blether about it and decided to download a couple of progs, and I've just read prog 1685.   Uhm ... at this stage it just seems like Judge Dredd is stupid to not realize that Ambrose is Maybe.

I figure if you guys can go from prog 1, I can probably manage to get caught up to present day from 1685.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 04 June, 2018, 03:22:42 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/QXUiu9t.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and second episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 330-333 of 2000AD, covering August and September of 1983. Join us Skizz beams up, Sam Slade starts his last case, Dredd gets heavy, and a young man named Sláine arrives on our show!

Direct Download (http://ow.ly/dWH630kkkIg)
iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/space-spinner-2000/id1162479912?mt=2)
Google (https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Iyrcaybmzmrupjzvsk7rbme5ymy)
Stitcher (https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/stranger-by-the-dozen/space-spinner-2000)
Or on your favorite podcast app!

Please let me know what you think of the episode!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 04 June, 2018, 09:52:25 pm
In our thrilling hundred and second episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 330-333 of 2000AD, covering August and September of 1983. Join us Skizz beams up, Sam Slade starts his last case, Dredd gets heavy, and a young man named Sláine arrives on our show!

Direct Download (http://ow.ly/dWH630kkkIg)
iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/space-spinner-2000/id1162479912?mt=2)
Google (https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Iyrcaybmzmrupjzvsk7rbme5ymy)
Stitcher (https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/stranger-by-the-dozen/space-spinner-2000)
Or on your favorite podcast app!

Please let me know what you think of the episode!

Great stuff - as mentioned in my last comment - this is the era that got me into life-long devotion to the GG!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 04 June, 2018, 10:09:34 pm
Great stuff - as mentioned in my last comment - this is the era that got me into life-long devotion to the GG!

Nice! Hope you think we're doing it justice!

I figure if you guys can go from prog 1, I can probably manage to get caught up to present day from 1685.

I mean, our goal is to go from prog 1 to the present day, so I can understand how daunting it is!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 05 June, 2018, 01:25:29 am
Great stuff - as mentioned in my last comment - this is the era that got me into life-long devotion to the GG!

Nice! Hope you think we're doing it justice!

Certainly do - the passion, excitement and enjoyment come through, particularly when Fox has been talking about Skizz and Slaine!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 05 June, 2018, 01:25:50 am
Great stuff - as mentioned in my last comment - this is the era that got me into life-long devotion to the GG!

Nice! Hope you think we're doing it justice!

Certainly do - the passion, excitement and enjoyment come through, particularly when Fox has been talking about Skizz and Slaine!

p.s. another D&Der here ;-)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 05 June, 2018, 08:33:04 am
Am I too late for the 1983 year end comments?

1983 was my first 2000AD year and the highs were great and the lows were not very low. I knew Dredd and Slade before I started so I was sad to see Slade go in a way that seemed unnecessary.
Nemesis and Strontium Dog were new to me and I had no trouble getting into them without reading any previous storties which I am sure was a deliberate and well executed part of these strips. I was 9 when the year began and I struggled with Skizz and Slaine which perhaps weren't space/future enough for me back then.

Pat Mills has said that Slaine development involved a huge amount of research into ancient (particularly Celtic) legends and mythology. The upshot is that the more ridiculous or bizarre the thing is that happens, the more likely it has its roots in ancient legend, myth or truth. The bit in this weeks podcast about the way prisons worked is true. You can visit Clink Prison in London to find out what prison was like up to the 16th Century and prisoners did stay until they had begged or borrowed enough money to pay their way out. It is really grim and not far from the prison described in the early Slaine story.

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 05 June, 2018, 08:46:22 am
it'll likely be a year -and an annual special i am booked to part of ahem- before we get to where i became a squaxx and the oddness of falling in love with a character then losing said character in a quick timeframe -being vague for foxes sake but i think you all know who i am talking about-
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 05 June, 2018, 12:52:22 pm
it'll likely be a year -and an annual special i am booked to part of ahem- before we get to where i became a squaxx and the oddness of falling in love with a character then losing said character in a quick timeframe -being vague for foxes sake but i think you all know who i am talking about-

Depends - did you start reading about 1989/1990?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 05 June, 2018, 05:44:58 pm
yup
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 05 June, 2018, 11:53:46 pm
yup
On the same page then.  It was possible you were referring to Chief Judges Silver or McGruder, Wulf or any of the members of Bad Company who died but inexplicably aren't dead now.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 07 June, 2018, 01:47:27 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/KToFwql.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and third episode we continue our journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with the 1984 2000AD Annual. This is the seventh 2000AD annual and we’re seeing a great combination of new stories and classic thrills in these pages.

This episode Conrad is joined by Steve Green, the co-director of Search/Destroy, the Strontium Dog fan film, the cinematographer of Judge Minty, the Judge Dredd fan film, and visual effects artist for the recent Rogue Trooper: The Quartz Massacre fan film!

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Or on your favorite podcast app!

Please let me know what you think of the episode!

It was super fun talking to Steve about these thrills. We also talked about his movie making, but it was too much for one episode! I'll have that part of our conversation up next week as a special bonus episode.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 07 June, 2018, 02:44:42 pm
Thanks, had a great time revisiting the annual!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Fungus on 11 June, 2018, 02:44:55 am
Still plenty episodes behind the latest but making progress... nice today to hear the guys reach my first published letter and deem it 'great'. 99% sure anyway, based on the description and the ballpark prog being covered (would need to check the progs to prove it). 'Some kid', haven't been called that for ages  :)

Time-travel is weird. Hootin' heck...!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 11 June, 2018, 11:16:05 am
(https://i.imgur.com/rLETdZb.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and fourth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 334-337 of 2000AD, covering September and October of 1983. Join us as Sláine goes on a mission, Dredd starts the midnight shift, and Nemesis the Warlock and Strontium Dog return!

Direct Download (http://ow.ly/4k9V30krbci)
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Google (https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Iyrcaybmzmrupjzvsk7rbme5ymy)
Stitcher (https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/stranger-by-the-dozen/space-spinner-2000)
Or on your favorite podcast app!

Please let me know what you think of the episode!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 11 June, 2018, 11:18:35 am
Still plenty episodes behind the latest but making progress... nice today to hear the guys reach my first published letter and deem it 'great'. 99% sure anyway, based on the description and the ballpark prog being covered (would need to check the progs to prove it). 'Some kid', haven't been called that for ages  :)

Time-travel is weird. Hootin' heck...!

Thanks! Sorry, I wish we could cover all the individual letters and reader art and stuff, but it'd take super long. I guess at some point I should stop assume everyone who writes in is a young person, but that day is not today! :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 12 June, 2018, 07:50:36 am
Arh man Prog 335, so good and while its easy to get wrapped in a big love blanket with that issue and grease up your thrill glands with its gooey goodness I think the point you make at the end really carries.

Prog 335 is just the start and those stories are with use for the rest of 1983 (pretty much) and then we get a slightly different type of thrill gush that's almost as good!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Pyroxian on 12 June, 2018, 09:26:56 am
Great episode (as always), but Z-cars is pronounced Zed-cars, not Zee cars!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 12 June, 2018, 12:49:13 pm
Great episode (as always), but Z-cars is pronounced Zed-cars, not Zee cars!


In the same way that i'd say Poppy Zee Brite, even though I'd usually say Zed (though Zed is a character in Pulp Fiction - how does that work?)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 12 June, 2018, 12:53:40 pm
Langwidge iz grate.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Frank on 12 June, 2018, 01:16:00 pm
Great episode (as always), but Z-cars is pronounced Zed-cars, not Zee cars!

According to Brian Blessed, it's pronounced Z-fucking-Cars. He played a character called Fancy-fucking-Smith.

https://youtu.be/ZH4cWoetw4s?t=5m8s


Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 12 June, 2018, 08:08:47 pm
In the same way that i'd say Poppy Zee Brite, even though I'd usually say Zed (though Zed is a character in Pulp Fiction - how does that work?)

The "Z as Zed" thing is something that I know I'll never remember. I just didn't learn it that way, you know? The Zed in Pulp Fiction might be a Zedekiah (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zedekiah), sometimes people get weird biblical names and shorten them down like that, for instance Jeb being Jedidiah or whatever. I don't think the character was just named "Z" but I could also be totally wrong! :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Richard on 12 June, 2018, 11:22:24 pm
"Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead."
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 14 June, 2018, 12:56:37 pm
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In the second part of our thrilling hundred and third episode, Conrad continues the conversation with Steven Green. He’s the co-director of Search/Destroy, the Strontium Dog fan film, the cinematographer of Judge Minty, the Judge Dredd fan film, and visual effects artist for the recent Rogue Trooper: The Quartz Massacre fan film! We talk about his history with movies and 2000AD films in particular. I hope you enjoy it! If you’d like to be on a Sci Special or Annual episode, please contact the show!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 14 June, 2018, 01:49:08 pm
Thanks for having us on!

I apologise for the many y'knows in advance.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 18 June, 2018, 05:35:09 am
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In our thrilling hundred and fifth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 338-341 of 2000AD, covering October and November of 1983. Join us as Dredd finishes the graveyard shift, we learn the truth about Venus Bluegenes, we’ll meet a bunch of characters including Sláine’s Dad, a futuristic necromancer in Strontium Dog, and an old friend in Nemesis the Warlock. BIG JOBS!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 18 June, 2018, 09:40:55 pm
"Once Rogue leaves, Venus just tosses Helm off".... :o

The Moses Incident is probably my favourite Stront tale - as you rightly identify, Stront and the fantastic somehow fit at least as much as Stront and Western.  Remind me to pitch the Malak Brood Origin story to Dogbreath!

Add to that peak Nemesis, Graveyard Shift, and God damn Slaine....

Wouldnt have put Uptown Girl so early in the 80s!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 18 June, 2018, 10:14:40 pm
"Once Rogue leaves, Venus just tosses Helm off".... :o

Yeah I'm still sniggering over that one!  :lol:

reminds me of the old Rodney Marsh anecdote (https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/14111-funny-anecdotes/)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 19 June, 2018, 07:27:39 pm
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Gone to space wizard, IOU one child corpse
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 20 June, 2018, 03:09:13 am
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Gone to space wizard, IOU one child corpse

That’s Fox’s favorite!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 25 June, 2018, 12:59:57 pm
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In our thrilling hundred and sixth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 342-345 of 2000AD, covering November and December of 1983. This week Johnny Alpha fights a necromancer, Dredd heads to a rumble, Slaine does the bull dance, and it’s time for more BIG JOBS!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 25 June, 2018, 03:29:27 pm
Post 'Eye of the Traitor', it increasingly looks like Rogue Trooper has forgotten about the Main Quest and has become determined to finish all the Side Missions, even the stupid ones and the weird off kilter dream sequence one.  He even dodges out of an NPC trying to railroad him back into hunting for the Traitor at one point...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 25 June, 2018, 04:34:01 pm
Post 'Eye of the Traitor', it increasingly looks like Rogue Trooper has forgotten about the Main Quest and has become determined to finish all the Side Missions, even the stupid ones and the weird off kilter dream sequence one.  He even dodges out of an NPC trying to railroad him back into hunting for the Traitor at one point...

That is an amazing analogy! It's so true too, like "hey let's so this optional quest to gain telekinesis powers!" "let's finish off the major magnam questline" and stuff. They know once they have the final showdown Rogue is in trouble!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 25 June, 2018, 04:45:50 pm
Shame the Fr1day DLC pack never took off.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 25 June, 2018, 04:53:10 pm
Post 'Eye of the Traitor', it increasingly looks like Rogue Trooper has forgotten about the Main Quest and has become determined to finish all the Side Missions, even the stupid ones and the weird off kilter dream sequence one.  He even dodges out of an NPC trying to railroad him back into hunting for the Traitor at one point...

 :lol:
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 26 June, 2018, 12:19:21 am
Shame the Fr1day DLC pack never took off.

It had a promising start but later expansions failed to live up to expectations ;)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 26 June, 2018, 04:35:14 pm
The Moses Incident is probably my favourite Stront story ever, so glad Conrad called that as his top after the disappointment of Fox dropping it behind Rogue and those darned killer dames! Honestly, its now Sister Sledge, the Scan Sector Dancing Queen, Venus and now bubble girl as bad uns... it is worse than the casual comedy racism for me as a "hard to justify to modern eyes" flaw of those early progs.

And not just to knock to opposition: In Stront's favour, here is an excerpt from my Dogbreath review of TMI:

What is particularly well pitched is the balance between a mature and introspective tale of consequence, all out action set pieces, humour and intrigue. Malak Brood’s chillingly calculated manipulation of Alpha’s guilt drives the tale to its perfect conclusion. 
 
Yet despite the deeper than usual themes, nothing feels forced, preachy or overly maudlin.  Wagner and Grants true talent has been in how they make this mix look so effortless – there’s no showboating here.  So many lesser writers would signpost how clever and mature they were in their use of the themes this story touches upon, but Wagner and Grant’s light touch and keen eye for rollicking adventure mean that their more subtler talent for characterisation often goes unsung
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Greg M. on 26 June, 2018, 06:47:08 pm
Honestly, its now Sister Sledge, the Scan Sector Dancing Queen, Venus and now bubble girl as bad uns... it is worse than the casual comedy racism for me as a "hard to justify to modern eyes" flaw of those early progs.

In a comic aimed at young boys, the 'Ugh! Girls!" aspect of Rogue Trooper is more akin to Calvin's G.R.O.S.S. club than anything. I've long found it amusing how much the bio-chips echo the playground attitudes of the prog's then-contemporary readers: "Stop being all mushy and hanging out with girls, Rogue! Get back to shooting people!"
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 26 June, 2018, 07:02:58 pm
Honestly, its now Sister Sledge, the Scan Sector Dancing Queen, Venus and now bubble girl as bad uns... it is worse than the casual comedy racism for me as a "hard to justify to modern eyes" flaw of those early progs.

In a comic aimed at young boys, the 'Ugh! Girls!" aspect of Rogue Trooper is more akin to Calvin's G.R.O.S.S. club than anything. I've long found it amusing how much the bio-chips echo the playground attitudes of the prog's then-contemporary readers: "Stop being all mushy and hanging out with girls, Rogue! Get back to shooting people!"

You could read that as a reflection of the GI's training and development - they've been designed, built and trained to be organic killing machines, but otherwise have the emotional maturity of children.

I don't think Rogue Trooper was ever that deep, though, and that would make Venus Bluegenes' status in Millicom Memories even more disturbing (the visiting officers appear to be using the Dolls as little more than comfort girls, after all).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 26 June, 2018, 07:19:32 pm
you uncultered american swines did not just diss terrahawks  :P the last great gerry anderson puppet show with the goddamn creepiest villian who haunted my nightmares as a kid....well until killing time took zeldas place

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/robotsupremacy/images/6/67/Zelda.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111026232619)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 26 June, 2018, 07:55:59 pm
The "Y-Bob" thing is a bit weird - it definitely means youth, as in YMCA, but I'm unaware of an other real-life examples of it being used this way - Wagner likes it though as it crops up a few times.

It's a testament to the quality, of the progs around this time that every single strip has been collected - in fact, you could probably spend the first 20 minutes listing all the various re-prints and different editions that they's appeared in.

And yes, Rogue is by far the weakest story in this line-up. The hunt for the Traitor General was okay, but has been spread out far too long, and once he gets him the strip loses focus completely. I was never a huge fan of Rogue - loads of great future war concepts (biochips, chem clouds, bio-wire etc) but, even as a kid, I found the usual narrative of "show up, save some Southers, shoot some Norts and then moodily wander off" to be a bit dull.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 26 June, 2018, 08:44:47 pm
I've made no secret of my distaste when it comes to Rogue. Always pretty but dumb. I find it endlessly fascinating that in a line-up this good there could be any doubt its the weakest strip.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 26 June, 2018, 09:59:48 pm
you uncultered american swines did not just diss terrahawks  :P the last great gerry anderson puppet show with the goddamn creepiest villian who haunted my nightmares as a kid....well until killing time took zeldas place

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/robotsupremacy/images/6/67/Zelda.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111026232619)

I feel like we'd actually need more knowledge of Terrahawks to properly diss it! :D

For everyone's Rogue comments, I see the point, but I think Rogue is doing what it sets out to do, just sort of be action-y future war stories. It's certainly the most formulaic of our current thrills, but I think it's still a decent formula at this point.

Honestly, its now Sister Sledge, the Scan Sector Dancing Queen, Venus and now bubble girl as bad uns... it is worse than the casual comedy racism for me as a "hard to justify to modern eyes" flaw of those early progs.

I think this is a fair point and one worth looking at. It's interesting because on Dredd we've got a fair amount of female characters to counter balance the occasional female criminal (Hershey, Anderson, McGruder especially, she seems to show up every other story), but there's nothing like that in Rogue. Definitely something to keep an eye on!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 26 June, 2018, 10:14:00 pm
I'll defend GFD Rogue - it misses a lot of tricks, but it is also unfairly lambasted. Of all the strips I've shown my son Joe, he was very taken with Rogue Trooper, so even now it must be doing something right - Pat Mills would say it confirms his opinion regarding mainstream and "fan" tastes...

I agree that the chips distaste at icky girls is kind of fun, it is mainly the fact they are 100% right about the icky girls I roll my eyes at!

"Gone to see Space Wizard - IOU one child corpse" when you try to explain the story, it can seem kind of odd, or hyperbolic, or just plain hokey, but its the delivery - the scene where Martha Quest hugs her child back to death, the themes of guilt and sin and responsibility... with zombies before zombies were played out! 

And Malak might seema  little unambitious for an all powerful necromancer, but I think that's a strength - he has been literally hampered to bring his power and position down to something Alpha can interact with on a level that has a resonance with Alpha's character
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Frank on 26 June, 2018, 10:33:10 pm
I think Rogue is doing what it sets out to do, just sort of be action-y future war stories. It's certainly the most formulaic of our current thrills, but I think it's still a decent formula at this point.

The reputation of Gerry Finley-Day's Rogue Trooper has suffered because, when read in collected editions, the stories are directionless and bitty.

As weekly showcases for action art and hardware design, each episode was good fun. Go back and read any episode in isolation*; they're great! Just don't treat them as graphic novels.


* The way they were supposed to reach the reader. Rogue Trooper holds up better as a toilet book than any other strip - Gerry Finley-Day can have that for his tombstone, if he likes.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: broodblik on 27 June, 2018, 04:24:24 pm
As weekly showcases for action art and hardware design, each episode was good fun. Go back and read any episode in isolation*; they're great! Just don't treat them as graphic novels.

Yes this is true when the strip started (as many of teh 70s and 80s strips) but when it was established their is many cases where we have a continues story-line. The purpose of Rogue always was to get the traitor.  Maybe it fizzled after the traitor was out of the picture. I still believe it works as a graphic novel for me even on the toilet
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 02 July, 2018, 12:28:49 pm
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In our thrilling hundred and seventh episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 346-349 of 2000AD, covering December of 1983. This week Rogue slips time, Sláine fights a Shoggey Beast, a homunculus is in peril, and Dinos run amok in Mega City One!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 06 July, 2018, 12:08:03 pm
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In our thrilling hundred and eighth episode Fox and Conrad take a break from reviewing weekly progs to reminisce on the whole of 2000 AD comics for the year 1983. It’s a chance to reflect, review, and give out awards! Welcome to the 1983 Spinnies! At the end of every chronological year in our prog timeline we’ll give out awards to the storylines and thrills we liked best over the last year. Stay tuned until the end to hear what’s coming up in 1984 from both 2000AD and our show!

Also be sure to check out Fox on episode 70 of Mega City Book Club!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Andy B on 07 July, 2018, 10:45:01 pm
It’s getting difficult to make any comment on this thread other than “you’re right - that stuff is all great!”.

I sometimes wonder if I like 80s 2000ad (and Tom Baker Dr Who) so much because I was exactly the right age to experience them. But looking back like you guys are, it really was that good!

Thanks again for this hugely enjoyable podcast. So much to look forward to in 1984...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Fungus on 07 July, 2018, 11:52:33 pm
I’m about 10 podcasts off the pace but getting there...
we’ve reached Skizz and the prog quality is fantastic (as we know).
Especially liked the various pronunciations of Birmingham, then the realisation that Skizz’s Burgy-gam is undermining the effort anyway. Nice!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 09 July, 2018, 01:06:20 pm
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In our thrilling hundred and ninth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 350-353 of 2000AD, covering January of 1984. This week Dredd gets pied, Rogue gets covert, and DR and Quinch go straight!

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Also, stay tuned later in the week for the Ant Wars collected episode, and check out Fox talking about it on this week's Mega City Book Club!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 09 July, 2018, 07:25:21 pm
Thanks Conrad and Fox, great stuff as usual. Sad to see Dredd at the bottom of the pile this week but I suppose it is a testament to the quality at that point.

There was a computer game of 'Strontium Dog - The Killing' about the same time the strip was running. It wasn't very good but it was the first 2000ad game. Could there have been some collusion between Wagner/Grant and the software company to come up with a plot that was so suited to being a game?

Strontium Dog, Dredd, Nemesis, Slaine and Rogue Trooper all got games in the 8 bit era. Rogue Trooper seems to be the strip that transfers best to gaming since it is fairly humourless and about a lone soldier in a war. The Rogue Trooper game that came out in the PS2 era and was recently re-done for the Switch is, I think, regarded as the best of all the 2000ad games.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 09 July, 2018, 07:47:04 pm
There was a computer game of 'Strontium Dog - The Killing' about the same time the strip was running. It wasn't very good but it was the first 2000ad game. Could there have been some collusion between Wagner/Grant and the software company to come up with a plot that was so suited to being a game?

Strontium Dog, Dredd, Nemesis, Slaine and Rogue Trooper all got games in the 8 bit era. Rogue Trooper seems to be the strip that transfers best to gaming since it is fairly humourless and about a lone soldier in a war. The Rogue Trooper game that came out in the PS2 era and was recently re-done for the Switch is, I think, regarded as the best of all the 2000ad games.

I had forgotten about this when we recorded, but it's definitely clear by the end of the year, when advertising for the two Strontium Dog games is in every prog! I really want to check these games out, at least watch a let's play or something, to experience these classic games! Though even if it's been done I still maintain that The Killing would make a great format for a modern Fortnite/PUBG style battle royale game :D

The UK based computer game site Rock Paper Shotgun routinely refers to the Rogue Trooper game as "The best 7 out of 10 game of all time. (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/08/04/best-average-action-games-on-pc/)" Which is a certain kind of dubious honor!

I'm just waiting for a Steam sale to pick up the re-released Dredd '95 game, which was a tie in for the movie!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 13 July, 2018, 05:46:07 am
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War declared on humanity! It’s the thirteenth in our series of Space Spinner 2000 collections!  These collections have all of our coverage for a specific character or storyline, all in one place. They’re a great accompaniment to reading collected versions of 2000AD, or to just hear your favorite thrill all in one place.

Anyhow, I don’t want to alarm you, the podcast listener, but there is a giant army of giant ants on their way! They’ll eat us all! You don’t believe me? Well that’s fair I guess. OH NO YOU’VE BEEN EATEN BY A GIANT ANT! You can find this story of South American insect conflict at the 2000AD webstore, or wherever books are sold.

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 13 July, 2018, 01:16:18 pm
I had forgotten about this when we recorded, but it's definitely clear by the end of the year, when advertising for the two Strontium Dog games is in every prog! I really want to check these games out, at least watch a let's play or something, to experience these classic games! Though even if it's been done I still maintain that The Killing would make a great format for a modern Fortnite/PUBG style battle royale game :D


Here you go (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD3ignxYE8U).  Haven't actually watched the full half-hour clip as I'm just finishing my lunch break so just watched a couple of five second snatches, but prepare to be disappointed!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 13 July, 2018, 01:43:05 pm
Wow, that game really was craptastic!

Interesting in the latest ep you said the final splash page in Slaine was in colour - don't know if this was just a slip of the tongue, but it was definitely B&W in he original prog. Looking forward to revisiting Ant Wars after Fox's appearance on the Mega-City Book club.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 13 July, 2018, 06:43:15 pm
Wow, that game really was craptastic!

Interesting in the latest ep you said the final splash page in Slaine was in colour - don't know if this was just a slip of the tongue, but it was definitely B&W in he original prog. Looking forward to revisiting Ant Wars after Fox's appearance on the Mega-City Book club.

There were two episodes of Glenn Fabry Slaine around the time of Slaine the King where the last page was in colour - one was Glenn's wordless (almost) sequence, the other was after Slaine had become king.  The last page was on the back cover of the prog, so got colourified (the only instance I can remember where a comic page appears on the back cover and isn't coloured is a Cam Kennedy / Rogue Trooper story back in 1983).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 13 July, 2018, 08:39:02 pm
Spent forever trying to get those Stront Games - here is a feature what I wrote about 2000AD games a lifetime ago - The reasons for the Stront games is right up at the start:

http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=news&page=features&choice=retrogames


I've always said that the Killing would make an amazing game - now more so than ever - it would be Fortnite with alien powers - solid gold
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 16 July, 2018, 06:08:13 am
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In our thrilling hundred and tenth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 354-357 of 2000AD, covering February of 1984. This week Sláine takes to the skies, DR and Quinch get drafted, the Killing continues, and we’ll get to meet CITIZEN SNORK! Also several songs are sung.

Usually I run a filter over the comic page, but this one is just too awesome!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 16 July, 2018, 07:31:20 pm
A great months prog this week - I ended up having to read on and am now a bit ahead of the podcast. There are some great times ahead for the next 2 or 3 shows at least.

This is the first time I have read those early Slaine strips properly and they are indeed great. As an 10 year old I struggled with the art being less clean than I was used to and I didn't really get into Slaine until the later Time Killer stuff.

The Osmonds were really a 70's pop act and so would have been unknown to many readers (including myself) when the Osmongs appeared in The Killing. I know who they are now and the likeness is pretty funny.

Also, veganism was definately well known in the 1980's. I thought it may have first been popularised in the 1960's but according to Wikipedia the term has been around since 1944.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 17 July, 2018, 07:50:59 am
Well again we could get distracted by what a great podcast it was again but there are two far more significent things we need to mention.

1) How the hoopin' heck have we got to Frankie already. Pottering down the road listening to the show I was at first delighted when I heard 'Relax', but then more than a little shocked that you'd made such progress that we'd got to this*!

2) How the f**k are you so young that you had to explain the Osmonds??? Your youth disgusts me... I'm so old...

*Of course if you were being a little more on the ball you'd have played Radio Gaga instead having banned 'Relax' just as the BBC did!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 17 July, 2018, 12:48:45 pm
Well again we could get distracted by what a great podcast it was again but there are two far more significent things we need to mention.

1) How the hoopin' heck have we got to Frankie already. Pottering down the road listening to the show I was at first delighted when I heard 'Relax', but then more than a little shocked that you'd made such progress that we'd got to this*!

2) How the f**k are you so young that you had to explain the Osmonds??? Your youth disgusts me... I'm so old...

I'm old enough to remember Frankie in the charts, but not the Osmonds.  Any reference to the seventies group would have gone completely over my head in 1983.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 20 July, 2018, 09:09:59 pm
Well again we could get distracted by what a great podcast it was again but there are two far more significent things we need to mention.

1) How the hoopin' heck have we got to Frankie already. Pottering down the road listening to the show I was at first delighted when I heard 'Relax', but then more than a little shocked that you'd made such progress that we'd got to this*!

2) How the f**k are you so young that you had to explain the Osmonds??? Your youth disgusts me... I'm so old...

*Of course if you were being a little more on the ball you'd have played Radio Gaga instead having banned 'Relax' just as the BBC did!

It's definitely amazing how much music has changed just in the time we've covered the show! I remember the early days when it was all disco and reggae, now it's all this new wave and synthesizer stuff, it's crazy. What a difference eight years make I guess? Also for the record we are still very much in a pre-Fox era, and will be for another year or two of progs.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 21 July, 2018, 10:13:08 am
Spent forever trying to get those Stront Games - here is a feature what I wrote about 2000AD games a lifetime ago - The reasons for the Stront games is right up at the start:
http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=news&page=features&choice=retrogames

That's a fascinating read .. and I would urge all Spacespinner fans to purchase as many back issues of Dogbreath as they can to read Leigh's excellent ongoing annotations/review of Strontium Dog from the start, including important additions to 'strontinuity' (I love that word  :D) and a regularly updated Cucumber Count.

2) How the f**k are you so young that you had to explain the Osmonds??? Your youth disgusts me... I'm so old...

Everything I knew about popular culture in the 70s came from cartoons and comics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5cyJPQuHCc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5cyJPQuHCc) (see also The Harlem Globetrotters, Jackson 5, and the Beatles)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 23 July, 2018, 05:23:43 am
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In our thrilling hundred and eleventh (ELEVENTY-FIRST) episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 358-361 of 2000AD, covering March of 1984. This week Johnny Alpha finishes Killing, dragons strike in Sláine, Sector House 9 is haunted, and Future Shocks return with a vengeance!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 27 July, 2018, 12:03:23 pm
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In our thrilling hundred and twelfth episode we continue our journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with the 1984 Sci-Fi Special of 2000AD. This Special has some great stories featuring Judge Dredd and Rogue Trooper, as well as classic thrills from Flesh and Invasion!

This episode Conrad is joined by Stephen Reid of the Everything Comes Back to 2000AD podcast! Every week ECBT covers all kinds of things, including movies, comics, and pop culture, as well as the new progs and megazines because everything comes back to 2000AD!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 30 July, 2018, 12:04:35 pm
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In our thrilling hundred and thirteenth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 362-365 of 2000AD, covering March and April of 1984. This week Johnny Alpha gets outlawed, Slaine heists a dragon, Dredd checks out high society, and DR and Quinch go to Hollywood!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 03 August, 2018, 05:34:03 pm
yup fish supper is indeed our way of saying fish and chips guys it always amused me that opening where they were doing a similar ceremony to the old haggis one but with a fish supper
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 04 August, 2018, 06:54:55 pm
yup fish supper is indeed our way of saying fish and chips guys it always amused me that opening where they were doing a similar ceremony to the old haggis one but with a fish supper

So many words you just said completely mystify me. Once I'm done with an upcoming summer holiday I need to make my way to England again so I can pretend I know British things.

We're having a ragged summer in Germany but I hear it's even worse there (humidity AND +30 degrees!?) , so waiting for the season to change.

WHY IS THERE NO AIR-CON IN MY HOUSE :C
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 04 August, 2018, 07:53:59 pm
You live in northern Europe, when do we need Air Con... about once ever 10 years or more... well that was the case once anyway...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 04 August, 2018, 08:20:22 pm
Had a bit of respite the past week but the last couple of days it's back with a vengeance, like an unwanted text story.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 04 August, 2018, 09:36:02 pm
You live in northern Europe, when do we need Air Con... about once ever 10 years or more... well that was the case once anyway...

This is my first year in Germany and it's treating me like I'm in Cyprus.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 06 August, 2018, 11:52:27 am
heh you spoiled american and your air cons  :P
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 06 August, 2018, 12:52:20 pm
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In our thrilling hundred and fourteenth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 366-369 of 2000AD, covering March and April of 1984. This week the mutant rebellion reunites, Sláine flies off, DR & Quinch mind the oranges, and Dave the Orangutan runs for mayor!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 13 August, 2018, 12:23:02 pm
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In our thrilling hundred and fifteenth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 370-373 of 2000AD, covering May and June of 1984. This week Judge Dekkar is evaluated, Rogue Trooper hangs out with some Captains, the Strontium Dogs are on the run, and it’s time for some dang future shocks!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 13 August, 2018, 04:34:34 pm
Also as we're taping ahead we're getting close to the end of 1984! I would love to hear people's thoughts on the year, what they liked and so forth, for our year in review show.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Funt Solo on 13 August, 2018, 06:57:07 pm
1984: Top Five Thrills

The Ballad Of Halo Jones (376-385)
Script: Alan Moore
Art: Ian Gibson
Letters: Steve Potter

Unique in the comic, for the first time we had a female lead character who lived in a world where the biggest threat was a ... shopping expedition.  A whole other world came to life here, with its own language and bizarre technologies: all beautifully realized by Ian Gibson.  It sounds light, but the threats the characters face are very real.  Subsequent books are also great tales, but they take us to more obvious tropes by degrees until we end up in a war zone: so nothing's quite as fresh as this first book.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ly9gasp.jpg)


Slaine: Sky Chariots (352-360)
Script: Pat Mills
Art: Mike McMahon
Letters: Tom Frame

Arguably the best art to ever grace the prog, McMahon's work here is just astounding: it should be hung in art galleries.  On top of that we have the amazing premise of flying viking ships powered by evil death druids.  Dragonheist is a great story as well (and has great art), but it can't compete with McMahon's work here. There's a powerful argument that this is really the best of Slaine: before he started firing laser guns, or time traveling, or repeating himself (by telling us about the cauldron and the sword and the spear over and over again).

(https://i.imgur.com/Vpem0em.png)


D.R. & Quinch (350-359, 363-367)
Script: Alan Moore
Art: Alan Davis
Letters: Steve Potter

This is the core of D.R. & Quinch, where they variously Go Straight, Go Girl Crazy, Get Drafted and finally Go To Hollywood.  The misadventures of two alien juvenile delinquents ranks easily as the best comedy story ever published in 2000AD and (like the best comedy shows: Fawlty Towers or The Office) left us wanting more.

The most quoted story is probably Go To Hollywood ("Mind the oranges, Marlon!"), but my favorite lines are from the last few frames of Get Drafted, where D.R. is ruminating on life:

"Later, as the mega-palace drifted among the stars, I thought about war and rich people and all the utterly fantastic things that had, like, happened to me ... all at once I understood just why it is that men fight each other.  I suddenly saw the answer to all this senseless violence that afflicts us!  But, like, I didn't write it down or anything ... and, like, y'know how it is - next morning I had totally forgotten what it was, man."

(https://i.imgur.com/kvWW8tW.jpg)


Strontium Dog: The Killing (350-359)
Script: Alan Grant
Art: Carlos Ezquerra
Letters: Jack Potter

This is Battle Royale, but that novel didn't come out until 1999.  It's Durham Red's Night of the Hunters, but that was in 1996.  It's Fortnite, but that's 2017.  The Killing, then, was ahead of its time.  It's up against Outlaw (363-385), but I think this is the tauter story, with a solid premise that doesn't rely on a wide arc for us to make sense of it.  It's got humor, but it's not belabored.  It's definitely the best Strontium Dog story since Portrait of a Mutant.

(https://i.imgur.com/xB1otpW.jpg)


Judge Dredd: The Haunting of Sector House 9 (359-363)
Script: John Wagner & Alan Grant (as T.B. Grover)
Art: Brett Ewins
Letters: Tom Frame

A fantastic premise and just amazing art from Brett Ewins, this turned up in what was otherwise a bit of a low point in Dredd as we'd had a sequence of silly ones (Bob & Carol & Ted & Ringo, Pieromania, Are You Tired of Being Mugged? & Citizen Snork).  It was time for some real threat, and this delivered it gloriously.

(https://i.imgur.com/gLWjCGd.jpg)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 13 August, 2018, 11:42:29 pm
Amazing! Thanks so much!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 14 August, 2018, 06:07:18 pm
This was tricky to do since I haven't just re-read the whole of 1984 like you guys have (I am keeping pace wth the podcast). I have browsed through the future issues and it is very hard to choose as there was a lot of quality this year.

Best story I would like to give to Judge Dredd: A Case For Treatment. (runners up SD: Outlaw or JD: Dredd Angel). I know it is a one off but it has quite an impact.

Best writer goes to Wagner/Grant for a great year of Stronium Dog and Dredd.

Best art goes to Alan Davis for DR & Quinch.

I can't really pick a best month having not read the whole year again properly yet.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 14 August, 2018, 06:59:04 pm
Best story I would like to give to Judge Dredd: A Case For Treatment. (runners up SD: Outlaw or JD: Dredd Angel). I know it is a one off but it has quite an impact.

Case for Treatment and the stories before it (Question of Judgement and Error of Judgement) are really important Dredd stories, even though they're mostly just talking instead of action. The idea that Dredd would ever question his judgement, and his place in the world, is really interesting. We'll talk about it a lot on the show, but those thrills really shook me!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Echidna on 14 August, 2018, 10:09:02 pm
Case for Treatment and the stories before it (Question of Judgement and Error of Judgement) are really important Dredd stories, even though they're mostly just talking instead of action. The idea that Dredd would ever question his judgement, and his place in the world, is really interesting. We'll talk about it a lot on the show, but those thrills really shook me!

Reading about [various stories from progs 650-700, you know the ones I'm talking about] is what got me interested in Dredd and 2000 AD back in 2013 (holy crap I just realised I've been here five years) and those stories from progs 387-389 are the start of a lot of those plot threads, so I'm really looking forward to hearing your thoughts on them.

Like WhizzBang I'm reading along with the podcasts, and (aside from Dredd, Nemesis and Halo Jones) it's all new to me, so I can't really offer any nominations. That said, I'll be astonished if anything tops McMahon's work on Sky Chariots.

I'd also like to nominate Rogue Trooper (progs 359-361) for a Special Award for Most Memorable Sound Effects:

WHEEEEN, WHUMPAA, HOPPA HOPPA HOPPA, HOPPA HOPPA, HOPPA HOPPA HOPPA HOP HOPPA
HOPPAHOPPAHOPPA, HOPPAHOPPAHOPPA, BOMPAA, WHOMMMPA, PTIING
BLAM, HOPPA HOPPA HOPPAPPA, BUDDA BUDDA BUDDA, BOOMFA
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 16 August, 2018, 09:01:57 am
My Spinnies nominations for 1984:

It's really tempting to go with Halo Jones because of what that strip will become, but the first book on its own is still a bit weird and a culture shock that left many of us puzzled at the time.

So instead I'm going to pick another Alan Moore series that reached its pinnacle in 1984 with the Towering Citrus Inferno of "Mind the oranges, Marlon!"

Top thrill: DR & Quinch go to Hollywood.

[Silver medal to Slaine:Sky Chariots for Mick McMahon at the height of his pencil powers.]

Top Writer: Alan Moore

Top Artist: Alan Davis

Top month: April 1984

What a year. And congratulations to Fox and Conrad for keeping on keeping on with the thrilling prog slog.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 16 August, 2018, 11:18:31 am
An interview with John Wagner reveals that everything written in this period credited to either TB Grover or Alan Grant was written by the pair of them together and whoever did the typing got their name on the Credit Card box.

Nobody on the production side of things ever seems to say anything nice about Kim Raymond - I get the impression he was either very slow or prone to missing deadlines, which might explain why they had to reprint Mutie the Pig and Superbowl takes place before Portrait of a Politician even though it appears afterwards.

Anyway, here are the nominations for the 1984 Spinnies from Frag End...

Top Thrill: Strontium Dog - The Killing

Top Script Droid: Alan Moore

Top Art Droid:  Brett Ewins

Top Month: August 1984 because there'd been no prog for five weeks and my ten year old self thought it was gone for good.

Best SFX:  SPATTATTAAA! CHIKA-CHIKA-CHIKA-CHIKA-CHIKA- Judge Dredd - Tarantula, 1985 Judge Dredd Annual
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 16 August, 2018, 12:00:27 pm
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In our thrilling hundred and sixteenth episode we continue our journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with the 1985 Judge Dredd Annual. This is the fifth Dredd Annual, and once again we have Carlos Ezquerra drawing three new full color Dredd stories, as well as classic Dredd, some features, and more ghost punching by Judge Anderson.

This episode Conrad is joined by Peter Adamson of the Beyond the Soda and Where Eagles Dare podcast! Where Eagles Dare recaps the Eagle comic from the 1980s! If you like our show you’ll love Where Eagles Dare!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: AlexF on 17 August, 2018, 04:31:25 pm
1984 is a few years before my time as a weekly Prog reader, but I read a fair chunk of these strips in my early days when they turned up in the greatest reprint comic of all time, 'The Best of 2000AD monthly'! I was always curious why they reprinted stuff that seemed quite recent, and almost never included stuff from the first 200 progs - now I know it's because the thrills from 1984 were just better!

Top art: Brett Ewins for Sector House 9
Top story: Wagner & Grant for the Killing
Top overall thrill: Nemesis book IV (and I love the detail that episode 1 of this book was, apparently, originally crafted as the actual episode 1 of the whole Nemesis saga. That's so crazy and weird! It's like he's an alien who looks like the devil dressed as a Victorian gent with a robot valet on a steampunk planet and the villain is a weird tentacly demon ghost I don't even understand but I LOVE IT)
Top month: October - Nemesis begins, but also Rogue reaches a milestone, Ace Garp is a ton of fun, and Dredd kickstarts this long-running saga of doubt, also allowing Rob Smith to draw the single best 'irritating pencil-pusher gets punched in the kisser' panel. Yeah, Brian Bolland, it's better than 'gaze into the fist of Dredd', I said it.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 21 August, 2018, 12:35:38 pm
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In our thrilling hundred and seventeenth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 374-377 of 2000AD, covering June, July, and August of 1984. This week Johnny Alpha gets Scottish, Dredd deals with some wreckers, Rogue deals with a coup, and Halo Jones goes out!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 21 August, 2018, 05:06:34 pm
Also I want to thank everyone for their Spinnies responses!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 22 August, 2018, 06:26:29 pm
Great episode - curiously, I have no memory of the strike!  Given I can recall the horro of missing out on prog 228 due to a holiday and stupid newsagent thinking I had given up on my 7 months long order, that seems very odd...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 22 August, 2018, 06:46:30 pm
Great episode - curiously, I have no memory of the strike!  Given I can recall the horro of missing out on prog 228 due to a holiday and stupid newsagent thinking I had given up on my 7 months long order, that seems very odd...


Hope you managed to get a copy in the end - so, there's this new character called Rogue Trooper, right?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 22 August, 2018, 09:35:07 pm
At least there wasn't the end of a really gripping Dredd classic in there or anything.....   >:(

Great episode - curiously, I have no memory of the strike!  Given I can recall the horro of missing out on prog 228 due to a holiday and stupid newsagent thinking I had given up on my 7 months long order, that seems very odd...


Hope you managed to get a copy in the end - so, there's this new character called Rogue Trooper, right?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 24 August, 2018, 06:19:46 pm
I love the way the energy dropped - in a good way - as soon as you started to discuss Halo Jones and both of you got quieter and more reflective. Just goes to show what an impact that series can have!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 24 August, 2018, 09:36:04 pm
I love the way the energy dropped - in a good way - as soon as you started to discuss Halo Jones and both of you got quieter and more reflective. Just goes to show what an impact that series can have!

Certainly more of that to come as Halo Jones gets more serious!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 27 August, 2018, 11:53:32 am
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In our thrilling hundred and eighteenth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 378-382 of 2000AD, covering August and September of 1984. This week Halo Jones goes shopping, Dredd and Mean are on a mission, Johnny Alpha is in trouble, and Ace Garp breaks out!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 27 August, 2018, 12:06:50 pm
I wish I'd appreciated that Halo Jones cliffhanger at the time - I was still decidedly nonplussed by the whole thing when I was 10.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 03 September, 2018, 02:02:55 pm
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In our thrilling hundred and nineteenth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 383-386 of 2000AD, covering September and October of 1984. This week Halo Jones goes out for real, Dredd heads for the sewers, Johnny Alpha settles things with his dad, and Major Magnam returns, as do the Dictators of Zrag!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 03 September, 2018, 02:47:17 pm
I've read Halo Jones multiple times, I've reviewed it twice on my podcast, and I still got new insights from the Conrad Fox double act.
Great stuff.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 03 September, 2018, 03:01:34 pm
On the subject of Johnny's torture at the hands of his dad - do we reckon that Kreelman is implanting specific imagery and visions, or is he just pumping him full of drugs and allowing Johnny's subconscious to fill in the details? Either way, that 'bondage daddy' vision says a LOT about one of them!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 03 September, 2018, 04:10:07 pm
I've read Halo Jones multiple times, I've reviewed it twice on my podcast, and I still got new insights from the Conrad Fox double act.
Great stuff.

Thanks! That means a lot. There's more tBoHJ talk coming up in the Spinnies for 1984, and of course when book two starts in early 85.

On the subject of Johnny's torture at the hands of his dad - do we reckon that Kreelman is implanting specific imagery and visions, or is he just pumping him full of drugs and allowing Johnny's subconscious to fill in the details? Either way, that 'bondage daddy' vision says a LOT about one of them!

I'm pretty sure Kreelman is choosing them, because when the situation starts he knows that Johnny is being attacked by rats. I guess it makes sense, since Kreelman is literally torturing Johnny, but the clothing choice is indeed concerning!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 04 September, 2018, 06:07:43 pm
Rogue Trooper never finished the side missions (he's completely forgotten about the Bagman's damaged chip arc, and Colonel Kovert was last seen swearing to get his revenge*), but the game has clearly had enough of Rogue ignoring all the clues he's supposed to be following** and has just literally dropped the end game directly on his head.  You just know he's heading for the Worst Ending.  The Big Bad's going to get killed in a cutscene if he's not careful...

*He was never seen or mentioned again.

**Most recently, the bodylooter in Just Routine, who said he knew something about the Traitor - did Rogue try to find his ship, or his base, or try to make contact with any of his acquaintances...? Nope, he just wanders off.

***There is no third footnote.  Move along!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 04 September, 2018, 07:47:58 pm
 :lol: I adore your Rogue/game analogies.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 04 September, 2018, 09:21:25 pm
I've read Halo Jones multiple times, I've reviewed it twice on my podcast, and I still got new insights from the Conrad Fox double act.
Great stuff.

Thanks! That means a lot. There's more tBoHJ talk coming up in the Spinnies for 1984, and of course when book two starts in early 85.

Pretty sure this week's cover was my Grail Page on Eamonn's podcast...

Really looking forward to hearing the new insights now, which I'll do the moment I've posted this :-)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 06 September, 2018, 11:58:54 am
Rogue Trooper never finished the side missions (he's completely forgotten about the Bagman's damaged chip arc, and Colonel Kovert was last seen swearing to get his revenge*), but the game has clearly had enough of Rogue ignoring all the clues he's supposed to be following** and has just literally dropped the end game directly on his head.  You just know he's heading for the Worst Ending.  The Big Bad's going to get killed in a cutscene if he's not careful...

*He was never seen or mentioned again.

**Most recently, the bodylooter in Just Routine, who said he knew something about the Traitor - did Rogue try to find his ship, or his base, or try to make contact with any of his acquaintances...? Nope, he just wanders off.

***There is no third footnote.  Move along!

Oh man, that's true. He'll never get the platinum trophy at this rate! I must agree, this is a top quality metaphor!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 06 September, 2018, 12:02:39 pm
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In our thrilling hundred twentieth episode we continue our journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with the 1985 2000AD Annual. This is the eighth 2000AD annual and we’re seeing a great combination of new stories and classic thrills in these pages.

This episode Conrad is joined by one of our own 2000AD Forums member and Liverpool supporter Colin YNWA!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 06 September, 2018, 12:57:18 pm
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In our thrilling hundred twentieth episode we continue our journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with the 1985 2000AD Annual. This is the eighth 2000AD annual and we’re seeing a great combination of new stories and classic thrills in these pages.

This episode Conrad is joined by one of our own 2000AD Forums member and Liverpool supporter Colin YNWA!

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My first annual, looking forward to listening to that tonight.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 06 September, 2018, 01:31:12 pm
I'm sorry
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 06 September, 2018, 01:50:54 pm
Gasp!  All this time... I've been reading Colin YNWA as Colin YMCA and never noticed!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Bolt-01 on 06 September, 2018, 02:20:22 pm
sigh... Young man!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 06 September, 2018, 02:22:52 pm
I'm sorry

Thanks for coming on the show! I thought it turned out pretty well!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 06 September, 2018, 02:39:15 pm
Quote from: Bolt-01
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sigh... Young man!

There's no need to feel down...

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 06 September, 2018, 09:04:20 pm
The McMahon Slaine art was used as the cover of the mockup of "ZARJAZ", the aborted 2000AD more adult spin off  - Pat Mills talks about it in the preview of "Kiss My Axe" being shown off at a comics convention I think, which pissd him off as ir was being bandied about before the strip had debuted....
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Funt Solo on 06 September, 2018, 10:49:46 pm
sigh... Young man!

There's no need to feel down...

I said, young man, pick yourself off the ground
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 10 September, 2018, 11:16:41 am
sigh... Young man!

There's no need to feel down...

I said, young man, pick yourself off the ground

For more information on this please see our 29th episode!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 10 September, 2018, 11:19:15 am
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In our thrilling hundred and twenty-first episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 387-390 of 2000AD, covering October and November of 1984. This week we’re starting all new stories, as Dredd questions his judgement, Ace trucking goes on strike, the helltrekk begins, and Nemesis visits the Gothic Empire!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 10 September, 2018, 01:07:39 pm
Tim Sell is an illustrator rather than a comics artist - you may remember him from the Fighting Fantasy series, particularly the murder spree epic, Forest of Doom.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 10 September, 2018, 01:36:16 pm
Tim Sell is an illustrator rather than a comics artist - you may remember him from the Fighting Fantasy series, particularly the murder spree epic, Forest of Doom.

Aren't they all murder sprees?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Funt Solo on 10 September, 2018, 10:27:47 pm
the murder spree epic, Forest of Doom.

When I first got into D&D, it was the old Basic Set from 1981, and it came with a bundled adventure module: B2 - The Keep on the Borderlands.

The basic story was that you get tooled up in the Keep and then go to this terraced wilderness area that housed a whole bunch of humanoid creatures: kobolds, goblins, bugbears, orcs and so on.  These guys were all living peacefully in their various tunnels, and the module even listed the amount of non-combatants in each location.  There was no story about them causing any harm to anyone.

Then you systematically murder them all and steal their treasures.  So, like, Genocide on the Borderlands.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 10 September, 2018, 11:29:54 pm
the murder spree epic, Forest of Doom.

When I first got into D&D, it was the old Basic Set from 1981, and it came with a bundled adventure module: B2 - The Keep on the Borderlands.

The basic story was that you get tooled up in the Keep and then go to this terraced wilderness area that housed a whole bunch of humanoid creatures: kobolds, goblins, bugbears, orcs and so on.  These guys were all living peacefully in their various tunnels, and the module even listed the amount of non-combatants in each location.  There was no story about them causing any harm to anyone.

Then you systematically murder them all and steal their treasures.  So, like, Genocide on the Borderlands.

Dude, the clue was in the name - nothing good ever came out of the Caves of Chaos (though our version had loads of pit ponies which I freed).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 11 September, 2018, 05:56:12 pm
Dare you doubt Tharg's explanations puny Earthlets!!!

To my eye the art has that oily inks look (and letratone!) that the earlier O'Neill has, though he appears to have redrawn some panels  - the soul sucking on the restaurant manager being the most obvious.

As for the strip swinging insanely and unexpectedly from Killer Watt.... well it is Pat Mills - you'll get ued to it!  :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 11 September, 2018, 10:49:52 pm
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Dare you doubt Tharg's explanations puny Earthlets!!!

To my eye the art has that oily inks look (and letratone!) that the earlier O'Neill has, though he appears to have redrawn some panels  - the soul sucking on the restaurant manager being the most obvious.

As for the strip swinging insanely and unexpectedly from Killer Watt.... well it is Pat Mills - you'll get ued to it!  :D

Agreed, there's no doubt in my mind that the first two episodes of Book IV were drawn between Killer Watt and Book I.  Not noticed if there's any evidence of re-touching (or bodging, even) by O'Neill, but I'll have to look out for it next time I read it.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 17 September, 2018, 05:27:20 am
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In our thrilling hundred and twenty-second episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 391-394 of 2000AD, covering November and December of 1984. This week Hammerstein returns as Nemesis goes undercover, Dredd and Anderson head to the future, it’s worm time for Ace trucking, The stainless steel rat returns, and Rogue trooper gets his man! Also Fox and Conrad fight a mighty battle against Conrad’s terrible internet connection, with mixed results.

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Echidna on 17 September, 2018, 10:56:14 pm
For Conrad and anyone else baffled by Fox's reference at 25:20...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWTL5pKYofY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWTL5pKYofY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmd1qMN5Yo0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmd1qMN5Yo0)

Can't say I'm as affected by Helltrekkers as you guys - the cast are dispatched so rapidly I haven't had a chance to grow attached to any of them. That said, if Crustacia gets boiled alive I'll be super sad about it. And I'm looking forward to Quint inevitably going out like Robert Shaw.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 17 September, 2018, 11:22:24 pm
Please let me know what you think of the episode!

Do you still have plans for Collections?  It seems quite a while since Ant Wars!  My vote is for Comic Rock, Nemesis Book I, Nemesis Book II, Nemesis Book III, Nemesis Book IV: The Gothic Empire (not that you've got to the end of that yet).  Do you detect a theme?

By the way - people in the UK who eat lunch in the middle of the day will eat dinner in the evening.  People who eat dinner in the middle of the day eat tea (as well as drinking tea) in the evening.  Everybody has supper.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 18 September, 2018, 09:49:21 pm
For Conrad and anyone else baffled by Fox's reference at 25:20...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWTL5pKYofY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWTL5pKYofY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmd1qMN5Yo0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmd1qMN5Yo0)

Can't say I'm as affected by Helltrekkers as you guys - the cast are dispatched so rapidly I haven't had a chance to grow attached to any of them. That said, if Crustacia gets boiled alive I'll be super sad about it. And I'm looking forward to Quint inevitably going out like Robert Shaw.

I hear you about helltrekkers! For me the depression sets in a little later, once we get to the black scap, then the shootout at the fort, THEN the other stuff. It's a ridiculous build.

Please let me know what you think of the episode!

Do you still have plans for Collections?  It seems quite a while since Ant Wars!  My vote is for Comic Rock, Nemesis Book I, Nemesis Book II, Nemesis Book III, Nemesis Book IV: The Gothic Empire (not that you've got to the end of that yet).  Do you detect a theme?

By the way - people in the UK who eat lunch in the middle of the day will eat dinner in the evening.  People who eat dinner in the middle of the day eat tea (as well as drinking tea) in the evening.  Everybody has supper.

I've got tons of PLANS for collections, sadly those plans have had difficulties once they come into contact with all the other factors in my life :( I'm hoping to get to some soon. As for Nemesis, right now my plan is to eventually collect it according to the Complete Nemesis the Warlock editions, so it'll qualify once we finish the Gothic Empire story. Sorry for the delay with the collections, they're a fair amount of work!

Is tea a different evening meal than supper? I must say I usually imagine it being consumed in the morning or mid-day, not at night. That's a terrifying new wrinkle!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 18 September, 2018, 10:36:11 pm
People in the South (and posh people) have breakfast lunch and dinner. Tea (often called 'afternoon tea') is a light snack of tea and cake around 4pm.

Northerners however, have breakfast, dinner and tea - we're too poor/busy for an extra meal in between.

Oddly however, school food-servers are always called 'dinnerladies' - I've never heard any brit say lunch-lady (as in the Simpson's lunch-lady Doris)

'supper' is a minefield of class politics - for me as a kid, it meant a snack before bedtime, but posh people use it to mean a less formal evening meal - David Cameron was widely mocked for pretending to be less posh than he really is by talking about his "kitchen suppers" (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/10344653/Jolly-kitchen-suppers-arent-as-casual-as-youd-think.html)

I was surprised you seemed to get the 'meals on wheels' pun - meals on wheels is a longstanding social care service for senior citizens - the local council would provide a daily hot meal, delivered to the door of elderly people. Don't know if it still exists, I doubt it has survived austerity cuts.

Helltrekkers didn't depress me at all - it's like any disaster or slasher movie - you know that virtually everyone you meet at the beginning is about to die horribly, but it's fun seeing how they do it.

Never having even heard of Hill Street Blues really did make me feel old!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 18 September, 2018, 11:18:43 pm
Do you still have plans for Collections?  It seems quite a while since Ant Wars!  My vote is for Comic Rock, Nemesis Book I, Nemesis Book II, Nemesis Book III, Nemesis Book IV: The Gothic Empire (not that you've got to the end of that yet).  Do you detect a theme?

By the way - people in the UK who eat lunch in the middle of the day will eat dinner in the evening.  People who eat dinner in the middle of the day eat tea (as well as drinking tea) in the evening.  Everybody has supper.

I've got tons of PLANS for collections, sadly those plans have had difficulties once they come into contact with all the other factors in my life :( I'm hoping to get to some soon.

Er, yes - my prog slog blog has been on pause for a year or two now - things should be a bit more settled now, so I'll get back in to it.  Soon.

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As for Nemesis, right now my plan is to eventually collect it according to the Complete Nemesis the Warlock editions, so it'll qualify once we finish the Gothic Empire story. Sorry for the delay with the collections, they're a fair amount of work!

No worries, I managed to wait however-long-it-was between Deathbringer and Hammer of Warlocks Final Conflict.

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Is tea a different evening meal than supper? I must say I usually imagine it being consumed in the morning or mid-day, not at night. That's a terrifying new wrinkle!

There's High Tea - that's a meal you'd have in posh hotels involving sandwiches and scones (plus actual drinks of tea).  I've moved around the country a bit, so my vocabulary might be a bit of a confusing mix of Southern, Midlands and Northern.  If I was eating all through the day my meal-times would consist of the following:
Hmm, I'm missing out the mystical power of Seven, as taught to us by Deadlock and Uncle Pat.  Must slot in another meal somewhere.  Midnight feast, maybe?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 18 September, 2018, 11:21:59 pm
Growing up it was breakfast, dinnertime, teatime.

Now it's breakfast, lunch, and god knows what...

I think the concept of working for a living, sometimes at home, sometimes on the way home has scuppered my concept of what an evening meal is called.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 18 September, 2018, 11:40:28 pm
Supper is alien to me as a barely even working class Brummie - I would imagine we used "tea" and "dinner" interchangeably. - mid day would be either a "dinner" (because you had a school dinner), but going home for food rather than eating with the rest meant I always thought of it as "lunch", because it was eaten during the lunchbreak.... not sure where this puts me in the scale of these things!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 19 September, 2018, 12:58:42 am
I hope that's clear now  :lol:
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Funt Solo on 19 September, 2018, 01:58:38 am
When I wert lad, we had breakfast at home, lunch at school (during the dinner break, served by dinner ladies, who weren’t posh), tea at home, and any other food we ate was a snack.

Brunch, high tea and supper were mythical meals provided to posh people.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 19 September, 2018, 06:23:47 am
When I wert lad, we had breakfast at home, lunch at school (during the dinner break, served by dinner ladies, who weren’t posh), tea at home, and any other food we ate was a snack.

Brunch, high tea and supper were mythical meals provided to posh people.

This is a solid summary.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: TordelBack on 19 September, 2018, 08:10:04 am
When I wert lad, we had breakfast at home, lunch at school (during the dinner break, served by dinner ladies, who weren’t posh), tea at home, and any other food we ate was a snack.

Brunch, high tea and supper were mythical meals provided to posh people.

This is a solid summary.

For me too,  in Dublin. The only supper I was aware of was fish'n'chips consumed by Alf Tupper on the way to a big race (probably involving hurdles),  and brunch was something invented by Enid Blyton. Dinner was something you ate on Christmas Day, or more generally something involving a roasted bird. I was pretty shocked to learn that down the country they ate dinner every day at lunchtime,  and my failure to do so made me irretrievably posh
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 19 September, 2018, 09:07:41 am
Ten posts explaining our geographical confusion about what to call our evening meal.  :lol:
Ah the joys of living in the British Isles.
I'm looking forward to the episode about how we pronounce the word Scone.

 :P
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Pyroxian on 19 September, 2018, 09:43:46 am
Hmm, I'm missing out the mystical power of Seven, as taught to us by Deadlock and Uncle Pat.  Must slot in another meal somewhere.  Midnight feast, maybe?

Elevenses?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 19 September, 2018, 12:32:02 pm

How could you forget tiffin? Tiffin is an Indian English word for a type of meal. It can refer to the midday luncheon or, in some regions of the Indian subcontinent, a between meal snack , or in South Indian usage, a light breakfast. When used in place of the word "lunch", it does not necessarily mean a light meal.

(Wikipedia)

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 19 September, 2018, 01:03:13 pm
America has its public holidays, we have unnecessary meals.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 19 September, 2018, 01:09:12 pm

And, of course, oop north, we call work breaks 'baggin'.

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 19 September, 2018, 02:12:45 pm

And, of course, oop north, we call work breaks 'baggin'.

errrm - do we? As a Lancastrian who didn't move further than Manchester, I can safely say I have never heard this. (must be a West Lancashire thing  :))
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 19 September, 2018, 02:29:51 pm
Ten posts explaining our geographical confusion about what to call our evening meal.  :lol:
Ah the joys of living in the British Isles.
I'm looking forward to the episode about how we pronounce the word Scone.

 :P


Nobody tell the 'mericans how to pronounce it - I want to hear what they call it untainted by our opinions!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 19 September, 2018, 02:30:35 pm
When I wert lad, we had breakfast at home, lunch at school (during the dinner break, served by dinner ladies, who weren’t posh), tea at home, and any other food we ate was a snack.

Brunch, high tea and supper were mythical meals provided to posh people.


When I were a lad we had one meal a week, and count meself lucky :)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 19 September, 2018, 05:43:54 pm

And, of course, oop north, we call work breaks 'baggin'.

errrm - do we? As a Lancastrian who didn't move further than Manchester, I can safely say I have never heard this. (must be a West Lancashire thing  :))

Maybe it's a really local village thing. I believe it derives from farm workers taking butties and other snap with them into the fields in a bag so they didn't have to walk back to the farmhouse for some scran. Whatever, the call "baggin time" is always a welcome one!

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Funt Solo on 19 September, 2018, 06:56:25 pm
The only supper I was aware of was fish'n'chips

I'd forgotten about chip shop suppers.  That means that this sentence makes sense: "It's nearly tea-time and I don't know what to make for dinner: let's just go to the chip shop and have a fish supper."

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On a completely unrelated topic, I remember enjoying the early Rogue Trooper series (up to where Space Spinner is right now) much more than Conrad or Fox seem to.  I really enjoyed the art: Cam Kennedy's hoppers are my favorite, the tech (giant tanks and Nort glider troops) and the weird idea of a world at war consumed by chem clouds.  This may be the hazy rose-tinted spectacles of a youth long gone, and today I might not dig it so much, but my memories of the series are generally positive.

(Now, Horst, on the other hand...)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Frank on 19 September, 2018, 07:17:50 pm
I remember enjoying the early Rogue Trooper series (up to where Space Spinner is right now) much more than Conrad or Fox seem to

They're reading a bunch of progs at a time.

I enjoy any individual episode of original Rogue Trooper - the art's usually great, the action's exciting, and the ideas and characters are memorable - but reading an entire series (certainly the longer series) in one go usually turns into a chore.

I wasn't reading at that time, but I'm pretty sure they'd have read just fine on a weekly basis, which is what they were meant to do.


Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 19 September, 2018, 08:35:22 pm
On a completely unrelated topic, I remember enjoying the early Rogue Trooper series (up to where Space Spinner is right now) much more than Conrad or Fox seem to.  I really enjoyed the art: Cam Kennedy's hoppers are my favorite, the tech (giant tanks and Nort glider troops) and the weird idea of a world at war consumed by chem clouds.  This may be the hazy rose-tinted spectacles of a youth long gone, and today I might not dig it so much, but my memories of the series are generally positive.

(Now, Horst, on the other hand...)

Yes to both of those, loved them at the time and love them now, right up to where Conrad and Fox have read up to (and published, because they've probably read up to the egg virus thing).  I liked the next bit, right up to when the re-chipped GIs hit Horst.  I even liked the bit after Horst, with art by Steve Dillon, and Hit One.  It was after that when it was clear there wasn't any real plan for the Hits that original Rogue lost his lustre.  I've not read any of the Hits since Hunted gave the TG a motive for being a traitor (which ties in to the hits).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 19 September, 2018, 08:39:15 pm
Re-reading the hit, 'the princess is in another castle' got old very quick.

I'm not sure how they managed to screw it up so badly.

If it had been 4-6 episodes a hit run over a year, and variety in targets/situations I think it would be remembered much more fondly.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Funt Solo on 19 September, 2018, 10:30:32 pm
The great Steve Dillon art was far and away the best thing about the Hits sequence.

Horst was such a disappointment, but seems inevitable.  As they said on the podcast, once you find the one-armed man, the adventures of Dr. Kimble aren't very compelling.  (But now you take Dr. Kimble and stick him in a jungle.  It's still not interesting.)

Nu Earth itself was a great character, though.  Maybe I wish that Cinnabar could somehow have multiplied itself out over time to give us more of whatever made it so great.

But the great reboot happened instead.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 20 September, 2018, 04:08:29 am
I remember enjoying the early Rogue Trooper series (up to where Space Spinner is right now) much more than Conrad or Fox seem to

They're reading a bunch of progs at a time.

I enjoy any individual episode of original Rogue Trooper - the art's usually great, the action's exciting, and the ideas and characters are memorable - but reading an entire series (certainly the longer series) in one go usually turns into a chore.

I wasn't reading at that time, but I'm pretty sure they'd have read just fine on a weekly basis, which is what they were meant to do.

We've talked about that on the show a couple times. The similarity of the plot lines definitely become visible if you read a bunch in a row. Plus the nature of Rogue's story means that there aren't the occasional weird, wacky, or epic stories that can break up that monotony in other long-term thrills like Dredd. I think we talked on the most recent show about how there's something about Rogue and Nu-Earth that makes it different from Invasion, which being another every prog GF-D story seems like Rogue's closest comparison. Maybe the nature of Rogue and the conflict he's fighting in makes the over the top stuff less engrossing than Bill Savage's shoot 'em ups? I'm not sure.

Also, I can't believe how much conversation and differences there is about daily meals around various parts of the British Isles! For the record I think the standard US pronunciation for scone is just the word "cone" with an s on the front, and I'm terrified to learn what the other ways of saying it are!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Funt Solo on 20 September, 2018, 06:20:40 am
Scone (skon) can rhyme with bon (as in bon appetit): this is how it was said in my house.  I consider this the non-posh "correct" version.

Scone (skone) can rhyme with bone: posh version.

Scone (skoon) can rhyme with boon: this is just for Scone Palace and the village of Scone (in Scotland).

The Internet, of course, has a pie chart:

(http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/wp-content/uploads/Scone-world1-460x283.png)

By the way, that's pie rhyming with eye.  Unless you're from Dundee, in which case it's pie rhyming with ray.

Just to combine the meal time debate with the scone debate, here's high tea:

(https://www.totalguidetomanchester.com/images/content/STOCK-IMAGES/Eating-and-Drinking/Food/scones_ss101897407.jpg)

Next up: is a Jaffa Cake a biscuit?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Pyroxian on 20 September, 2018, 09:40:45 am
I always thought it was pronounced 'scawn-yeh'
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 21 September, 2018, 12:15:16 am
Scone (skon) can rhyme with bon (as in bon appetit): this is how it was said in my house.  I consider this the non-posh "correct" version.

Scone (skone) can rhyme with bone: posh version.

Scone (skoon) can rhyme with boon: this is just for Scone Palace and the village of Scone (in Scotland).

The Internet, of course, has a pie chart:

(http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/wp-content/uploads/Scone-world1-460x283.png)

By the way, that's pie rhyming with eye.  Unless you're from Dundee, in which case it's pie rhyming with ray.

Right, now that's sorted - almost 50/50 split, with the proper pronunciation just about winning, do you bake them with fruit or with cheese?

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Next up: is a Jaffa Cake a biscuit?

Depends if you're having to pay tax on it.  Do you get Jaffa Cakes in 'merica?  If not, were there any in the care package?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 21 September, 2018, 02:28:42 am
Depends if you're having to pay tax on it.  Do you get Jaffa Cakes in 'merica?  If not, were there any in the care package?

I've never seen one, I guess they're orange and chocolate? Definitely one of those things that I've only heard about vaguely when I watch repeats of Great British Bake Off (that's also where I've learned weird stuff about pudding, which is both another word for desert AND a specific kind of cake that's very different from what we have here, which you call custard). The care package we got was a lot of awesome savory stuff, like chips and crisps and stuff, and straight up candies of various types. For the record, I just want to say that these times we all pause to talk about junk food and snacks are some of my favorite parts of doing this show :D
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Funt Solo on 21 September, 2018, 03:23:02 am
Star Wars And Jaffa Cakes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZnsOZsA7_4)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: AlexF on 21 September, 2018, 06:52:23 am
I always thought it was pronounced 'scawn-yeh'

 :lol:

For the record, I am undeniably posh, and I've always said 'skon'.
Also in my house we grew up with breakfast, lunch, and then either High Tea (if we were eating early and were getting cake), or Supper (if we were eating late).

'Rogue Trooper' was pronounced 'a bit too rough for my liking'.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 21 September, 2018, 08:22:03 am

Now that pudding is on the table, as it were, I feel the need to mention the total awesomeness that is black pudding - one of my favourite things. However, I'm not entirely sure our American cousins would believe me if I described it.

So I won't.

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 21 September, 2018, 09:23:01 am
Depends if you're having to pay tax on it.  Do you get Jaffa Cakes in 'merica?  If not, were there any in the care package?

I've never seen one, I guess they're orange and chocolate? Definitely one of those things that I've only heard about vaguely when I watch repeats of Great British Bake Off (that's also where I've learned weird stuff about pudding, which is both another word for desert AND a specific kind of cake that's very different from what we have here, which you call custard). The care package we got was a lot of awesome savory stuff, like chips and crisps and stuff, and straight up candies of various types. For the record, I just want to say that these times we all pause to talk about junk food and snacks are some of my favorite parts of doing this show :D

Yeah, kind of a spongey base, not hard like a cookie.
A layer of orange jam/jelly type stuff, sealed in with chocolate.

There was some legal ruling of whether they were cakes or biscuits (biscuits have a higher tax rate) so they're defined as 'biscuit sized cakes'

Seem to recall some definition of whether a thing is a cake or a biscuit as being - if it goes hard when it's stale it's a cake, if it goes soft - then it's a biscuit.

This is why the lawyers get the big bucks.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 21 September, 2018, 02:26:50 pm

Now that pudding is on the table, as it were, I feel the need to mention the total awesomeness that is black pudding - one of my favourite things. However, I'm not entirely sure our American cousins would believe me if I described it.

So I won't.

I judge any cooked breakfast first and formost on whether it includes the glory that is black pudding.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 21 September, 2018, 03:36:16 pm

Don't we all???

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 21 September, 2018, 06:43:53 pm

Now that pudding is on the table, as it were, I feel the need to mention the total awesomeness that is black pudding - one of my favourite things. However, I'm not entirely sure our American cousins would believe me if I described it.

So I won't.


They'll know what a Black Pudding is (note the capitalisation) - it's a monster from D&D:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/DnD_Black_pudding.png/549px-DnD_Black_pudding.png)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 21 September, 2018, 07:24:03 pm
Good Lord!

Further, I believe even the Klingons had their own version. (http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Rokeg_blood_pie) Sounds delicious, except for the hairs...

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 21 September, 2018, 08:52:59 pm
I don't know how true it is but I've heard that as the blood drive during the second world war was so successful there was a proposal that all the blood would be of more use alleviating food shortages than used for medical purposes (but it could all be an urban myth).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 21 September, 2018, 09:38:28 pm

I wouldn't be surprised - governments always have been evil, blood-sucking parasites...

Back of the net! Ha.

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 22 September, 2018, 05:35:24 pm
I'm not saying we're food obsessed but...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnthyxzWkAAEV_0.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 23 September, 2018, 12:20:07 pm
I'm not saying we're food obsessed but...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnthyxzWkAAEV_0.jpg:large)
In case further translation is needed :
Jam sandwich = jelly sandwich
Battenburg cake = cake with squares of alternating yellow and pink sponge cake cubes, wrapped in marzipan.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/Battenbergcake.jpg/300px-Battenbergcake.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/EEAS-ambulance.jpg/220px-EEAS-ambulance.jpg)
Jam sandwich: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Met_police_car.jpg/220px-Met_police_car.jpg)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 24 September, 2018, 06:53:19 am
(https://i.imgur.com/GTN3rqK.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and twenty-third episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 395-398 of 2000AD, covering December of 1984. This week the Stainless Steel Rat begins his candidacy, Torquemada gets a new body, Ace quits trucking, we see even more Helltrekker funerals and Dredd fights vampire judges!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 24 September, 2018, 02:29:52 pm
I have missed so much, and I just, I don't know what anything is anymore. WHAT IS EVERYONE SAYING. AM I POSH OR NOT. HOW DO I KNOW. I FEEL VERY INSECURE ABOUT BRITISH FOOD.

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 24 September, 2018, 10:27:24 pm
I have missed so much, and I just, I don't know what anything is anymore. WHAT IS EVERYONE SAYING. AM I POSH OR NOT. HOW DO I KNOW. I FEEL VERY INSECURE ABOUT BRITISH FOOD.

We need NEW BLOOD - join us, Fox...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 24 September, 2018, 10:38:11 pm
I suspect that is the idea, Fox - to keep the plebs in their place and identify them more easily by their confusion over what should be a simple set of social rules!

I have missed so much, and I just, I don't know what anything is anymore. WHAT IS EVERYONE SAYING. AM I POSH OR NOT. HOW DO I KNOW. I FEEL VERY INSECURE ABOUT BRITISH FOOD.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 24 September, 2018, 10:53:12 pm
I'm loving Conrad's pronunciation of 'buoy'! :lol:
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 24 September, 2018, 10:53:25 pm
*psst* The lights go out line wasn't quoting Churchill, it was quoting Sir Edward Grey, Foreign Secretary on the outbreak of the Great War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_lamps_are_going_out) - Churchill did riff off it a year before the start of the second world war:
Quote from: Winston Churchill
The stations of uncensored expression are closing down; the lights are going out; but there is still time for those to whom freedom and parliamentary government mean something, to consult together.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 27 September, 2018, 05:31:26 am
*psst* The lights go out line wasn't quoting Churchill, it was quoting Sir Edward Grey, Foreign Secretary on the outbreak of the Great War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_lamps_are_going_out) - Churchill did riff off it a year before the start of the second world war:
Quote from: Winston Churchill
The stations of uncensored expression are closing down; the lights are going out; but there is still time for those to whom freedom and parliamentary government mean something, to consult together.

Oh noooooooo!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 27 September, 2018, 05:32:40 am
(https://i.imgur.com/nFiFKOW.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and twenty fourth episode Fox and Conrad take a break from reviewing weekly progs to reminisce on the whole of 2000 AD comics for the year 1984. It’s a chance to reflect, review, and give out awards! Welcome to the 1984 Spinnies! At the end of every chronological year in our prog timeline we’ll give out awards to the storylines and thrills we liked best over the last year. Stay tuned until the end to hear what’s coming up in 1985 from both 2000AD and our show!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Echidna on 30 September, 2018, 09:05:30 am
Awesome work, guys! That was loads of fun and the shout-out really made my day. (It's pronounced ekidna, but don't sweat it - me and Ee-mon are pretty forgiving guys ;) )

Re-Action sounds great; I've read some  Battle but nothing from Action so it will be completely new to me.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 30 September, 2018, 01:41:58 pm
Awesome work, guys! That was loads of fun and the shout-out really made my day. (It's pronounced ekidna, but don't sweat it - me and Ee-mon are pretty forgiving guys ;) )

Indeed we are.
 :P
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 01 October, 2018, 06:01:46 am
(https://i.imgur.com/vGcQsVr.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and twenty-fifth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 399-402 of 2000AD, covering January of 1985. This week the ABC Warriors reunite, the Helltrekkers make the crossing, the Stainless Steel Rat holds a campaign rally, and Dredd and The Mutant see eye-to-eye. Or maybe not!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 01 October, 2018, 07:19:04 pm
It is a nice coincidence that you and Fox talk about how great Carlos' work is at some length in this podcast, on a sad day for 2000ad fans. It is a fine tribute to him that his work was still gaining fresh admirers after all these years of sheer brilliance.

On the replica Nemesis being beheaded by Torquemada - that was quite a cliff hanger at the time and I remember thinking all week 'how will he get out of this one?'. I was a little bit disappointed by the resolution although it is sign posted with the 'low psychic energy reading' mention early on. I can't remember what explanation I dreamed up and thought was better.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 01 October, 2018, 07:36:35 pm
It is a nice coincidence that you and Fox talk about how great Carlos' work is at some length in this podcast, on a sad day for 2000ad fans. It is a fine tribute to him that his work was still gaining fresh admirers after all these years of sheer brilliance.

On the replica Nemesis being beheaded by Torquemada - that was quite a cliff hanger at the time and I remember thinking all week 'how will he get out of this one?'. I was a little bit disappointed by the resolution although it is sign posted with the 'low psychic energy reading' mention early on. I can't remember what explanation I dreamed up and thought was better.

Naturally both Fox and I are heartbroken by the news, it's so terrible. Ezquerra is such an essential part of the prog it is hard to imagine it without him. But he'll live on in his work, and I'm honored to have a hand in preserving that. Can't wait to get to the next Strontium Dog stories, which are some of my favorite.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 01 October, 2018, 09:30:04 pm
Conrad, as I said in the Goodbye Carlos thread, I was listening to Fox and yourself enthusing over Carlos' Stainless Steel Rat art as the news came in - as a child deeply affected by Carlos' work, particularly Strontium Dog (WWJD stands for "What Would Johnny Do?" to me), it has always filled my heart to hear you and Fox rave about the comics that shaped me, and hearign you call out Stront as your favourite in the Spinnies and his brilliant art in SSR really helped me today - thanks to you both!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 02 October, 2018, 12:26:39 am
(https://i.imgur.com/nFiFKOW.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and twenty fourth episode Fox and Conrad take a break from reviewing weekly progs to reminisce on the whole of 2000 AD comics for the year 1984. It’s a chance to reflect, review, and give out awards! Welcome to the 1984 Spinnies! At the end of every chronological year in our prog timeline we’ll give out awards to the storylines and thrills we liked best over the last year. Stay tuned until the end to hear what’s coming up in 1985 from both 2000AD and our show!

Direct Download (http://ow.ly/B2Th30lZwCQ)
iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/space-spinner-2000/id1162479912?mt=2)
Google (https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Iyrcaybmzmrupjzvsk7rbme5ymy)
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Please let me know what you think of the episode!

What was that about Sam Fox?  Uncle Sam / Fox?  You know there was a 1980s celeb called Samantha Fox, right?  She released a few records, though don't know if they made it over the pond.  If you feel the urge to google for her, don't do so on a work computer.  You have been warned.



I think one of the Block Mania / Mega Mania boardgames also had a Sam Fox block board...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 02 October, 2018, 03:30:26 pm
I've often wondered about the Sam Fox thing too - when was the book originally written (and does it also reference Sam Fox)?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Leigh S on 02 October, 2018, 04:02:54 pm
Written in 1982 - the book has a different author and more spoilery subtitle: - "How to win Elections", subtitled "Or how to vote the cemetery" by Seamus O'Neill
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 04 October, 2018, 05:13:25 am
(https://i.imgur.com/9a6hKa2.jpg)

In our action-packed first episode Jason and Conrad begin their journey through the pages of the infamous classic comic with issues 1-3 of Action! This episode a whole bunch of athletes get injured, Dredger is on the case, and Hookjaw eats a TON of people!

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If you're subscribed to the show you'll get this one too! I hope you enjoy it and that you like my friend Jason who's coming with me on this new classic comics journey!

Please let me know what you think of the episode!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 04 October, 2018, 04:00:05 pm
I just wanted to say that I've really enjoyed the podcast even though I haven't said anything for a while.

I probably ought to mention that I sometimes it just doesn't occur to me to communicate for weeks or months at a time (and on one occasion, nearly a year), which has made certain things a bit tricky, like holding down a job, having a girlfriend and keeping in touch with people.

Fortunately, in the Internet age, no one notices.

I'm not dead, in other words.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Andy B on 04 October, 2018, 06:28:51 pm
I just wanted to say that I've really enjoyed the podcast even though I haven't said anything for a while.

This! Can’t gush about how great the show is every week...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 04 October, 2018, 08:03:03 pm
Yeah for sure! We appreciate everyone listening, it's been an amazing run so far, and I hope you like the ReAction show!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 05 October, 2018, 06:49:39 pm
Finished listening to first Reaction and its a great addition. Jason seems fun and nice to hear about some strips I've never read... in fact only ever read Hookjaw.

So the question this leaves us is when you going to start on Battle?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 05 October, 2018, 07:14:01 pm
Enjoyed the first Re:Action cast - I didn't actually read this as a kid, so it's fun to get the spacespinner take on stuff I'm less familiar with.

And you only called him "Fox" once!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 05 October, 2018, 10:54:26 pm
Finished listening to first Reaction and its a great addition. Jason seems fun and nice to hear about some strips I've never read... in fact only ever read Hookjaw.

So the question this leaves us is when you going to start on Battle?

At this point my vision is pointed forward, not back. Our next target is space nobility, but that's a 2019 plan!

Enjoyed the first Re:Action cast - I didn't actually read this as a kid, so it's fun to get the spacespinner take on stuff I'm less familiar with.

And you only called him "Fox" once!

At this point calling my cohost Fox is total muscle memory. That and calling every character Dredd.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: AlexF on 06 October, 2018, 01:58:37 pm
I too never got to read Action (something to do with only being born in 1978), and apart from that Hookjaw collection from Hibernia I've not managed to find any of the other stories - how does one go about reading along? The stories sound too ridiculous not to seek out!

Are you going to combine Space Nobility with Freak Weather Patterns?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 06 October, 2018, 02:21:10 pm
I too never got to read Action (something to do with only being born in 1978), and apart from that Hookjaw collection from Hibernia I've not managed to find any of the other stories - how does one go about reading along? The stories sound too ridiculous not to seek out!

Are you going to combine Space Nobility with Freak Weather Patterns?

And then possibly about a time of intense difficulty, trouble or danger!

For reprints, I'm trying to post a bunch of screenshots on our social media, which gives you the majority of each story and should hopefully give you a sense of the stories at least!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 06 October, 2018, 02:22:06 pm
At this point my vision is pointed forward, not back. Our next target is space nobility, but that's a 2019 plan!

A space noble?  Some sort of Star... Lord?

Hurray!  You're doing Guardians of the Galaxy!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 06 October, 2018, 11:03:26 pm
Are you going to combine Space Nobility with Freak Weather Patterns?

And then possibly about a time of intense difficulty, trouble or danger!


Will you be turning around while you do it, about mid-way through the peril?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 08 October, 2018, 05:34:09 am
(https://i.imgur.com/CM69d2T.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and twenty-sixth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 403-406 of 2000AD, covering February of 1985. This week the GIs are back to the chips, Nemesis and Torquemada showdown, the Helltrekkers continue mutant fighting, and the City of the Damned concludes! Also it’s our second anniversary doing the podcast! Hooray!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 08 October, 2018, 04:12:58 pm
Now, pay attention - this is complicated!

Nemesis Book IV era Purity Brown has Lily Munster's hair (black with white streak), in Elvira's style (big tall hair) with Patricia Morrison from the Sisters of Mercy's face (loud lipstick, huge dark eyes, nearly invisible nose) and she's wearing Emma Peel from the Avengers (not to be confused with Marvel's Avengers, which was called 'Marvel's Avengers Assemble!' over here) costume from the episode 'A Touch of Brimstone' (also worn by Dark Phoenix in an episode of Marvel's X-Men).

I hope that's perfectly clear.

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Echidna on 10 October, 2018, 09:03:39 pm
"The Judge Child will return in Prog 1077, eighteen years after Judge Feyy's prediction, just as foretold!"
"Oh, what the fuck."
"Ah, y'know, whatever, that's a problem for when we're covering 1998, buddy. I'm not worried about that too much."
"That's so far away."
"You'd think so, but I got plans."


WHAT. What does this mean? You're not - gasp! - skipping ahead, are you?

Congrats on the anniversary - Space Spinner continues to be one of the podcasting highlights of my week, and ReAction is off to a great start too.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 10 October, 2018, 10:21:45 pm
Not even I know, sometimes I’m just vamping out there! Definitely no plans to skip!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 15 October, 2018, 05:57:12 am
(https://i.imgur.com/fRSSfLy.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and twenty-seventh episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 407-410 of 2000AD, covering March of 1985. This week Dredd goes against the Hunters Club, the King arrives in Halo Jones, things are getting hot for the Hell Trekkers, and Rogue Trooper starts his new mission!

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ReAction episode 2 is this Thursday!

Please let me know what you think of the episode!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Hudge_Jeeley on 15 October, 2018, 06:00:04 pm
Poor Fox, he's going to be broken next week.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 18 October, 2018, 05:25:34 am
(https://i.imgur.com/7llXk57.jpg)

In our action-packed second episode Jason and Conrad begin their journey through the pages of the infamous classic comic with issues 4-6 of Action! This episode it’s shark vs squid in hookjaw, Hellman goes to Dunkirk, Dredger meets his match, and at least one person gets punched in the face in every single story!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 22 October, 2018, 05:53:42 am
(https://i.imgur.com/2lBDsjm.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and twenty-eighth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 411-415 of 2000AD, covering March and April of 1985. This week Dredd fights big robots and young juves, the Helltrek concludes and Halo Jones reaches her destination, Rogue goes to the bugs, and Sláine begins a new adventure!

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Also, check co-host Conrad out on the lastest episode of the Fantasticast, talking the Fantastic Four, Doctor Strange, and Godzilla!
http://www.thefantasticast.com/podcast/304
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 22 October, 2018, 12:52:15 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/2lBDsjm.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and twenty-eighth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 411-415 of 2000AD, covering March and April of 1985. This week Dredd fights big robots and young juves, the Helltrek concludes and Halo Jones reaches her destination, Rogue goes to the bugs, and Sláine begins a new adventure!

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Please let me know what you think of the episode!

Also, check co-host Conrad out on the lastest episode of the Fantasticast, talking the Fantastic Four, Doctor Strange, and Godzilla!
http://www.thefantasticast.com/podcast/304

Looking forward to listening to that tonight - can't wait to find out how Fox reacts to the second half of Halo Book II!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 25 October, 2018, 06:10:44 am
(https://i.imgur.com/KZvSHjf.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and twenty-ninth episode we continue our journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with the 1985 Sci-Fi Special of 2000AD. This Special has some great stories featuring Judge Dredd and DR & Quinch, as well as classic Ro-Busters action!

This episode Conrad is joined by David Royane of the Beyond the Soda and Where Eagles Dare podcast! Where Eagles Dare recaps the Eagle comic from the 1980s! If you like our show you’ll love Where Eagles Dare!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: QuickQuag on 25 October, 2018, 10:12:35 am
..er... it behoves me to slip quietly from out of the Quag to inform fans of the splundig Space Spinner 2000 cast that Conrad himsef returns the favour and joins us Where Eagles Dare for a Very Special Special eaglesode flung into the podosphere within hours of this latest SS2k.

Conrad's clearly got the hang of the UK comic form. But can anything prepare him for an Eagle photostrip?

Direct download (https://sofageddon.wordpress.com/2018/10/25/wed16-a-very-special-special/)

Squelching off again now...
 
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 25 October, 2018, 04:41:43 pm
howard quartz half human cyborg and eventual continuity nightmare got me some strange looks on the bus as i was laughing too hard
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 25 October, 2018, 04:45:03 pm
Though for the record I guess it should be 10% man 90% robot, 100% continuity nightmare 😁
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 27 October, 2018, 11:53:22 am
YouTube: Man from Del Monte (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqmpVWzH4FM) - a series of commercials in the late 1970s(?), 1980s for fruit juice.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 27 October, 2018, 03:32:19 pm
..er... it behoves me to slip quietly from out of the Quag to inform fans of the splundig Space Spinner 2000 cast that Conrad himsef returns the favour and joins us Where Eagles Dare for a Very Special Special eaglesode flung into the podosphere within hours of this latest SS2k.

Conrad's clearly got the hang of the UK comic form. But can anything prepare him for an Eagle photostrip?

Direct download (https://sofageddon.wordpress.com/2018/10/25/wed16-a-very-special-special/)

Squelching off again now...

This was great - a triple dose of Conrad this week. I am following Where Eagles Dare since I did subscribe to Eagle before I moved on to 2000AD. I do not have any scans or copies of the comics so it is all from memory for me. Doomlord was the best and also scariest at the time - I am glad that it sounds as though it has stood the test of time.

I was staggered when for the closing music on this special it used A Taste Of Aggro by The Baron Knights. As a child, I used to brush my teeth to this song and I still have the 7" which I played to my 9 year old daughter just this week. I genuinely thought I was the only person who remembered this song as I have never encountered anyone else ever who knew of it.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 28 October, 2018, 04:27:18 am
This was great - a triple dose of Conrad this week. I am following Where Eagles Dare since I did subscribe to Eagle before I moved on to 2000AD. I do not have any scans or copies of the comics so it is all from memory for me. Doomlord was the best and also scariest at the time - I am glad that it sounds as though it has stood the test of time.

This week actually has a quintuple does of Conrad if you're a real glutton for punishment, as I've also done some American comics podcasting.

I'm a guest host on the Fantasticast, talking Fantastic Four, Doctor Strange, and Godzilla: http://www.thefantasticast.com/podcast/304

Also I've finally started working on my Doctor Strange podcast Stranger by the Dozen, which will be come out every two weeks: https://soundcloud.com/strangerbythedozen/xlvi

SO MUCH CONRAD!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 29 October, 2018, 06:27:57 pm
SO MUCH CONRAD!

Enough is never enough. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUzkghAJXZg) ;)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 29 October, 2018, 06:37:27 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/UUx6KVE.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and thirtieth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 416-418 of 2000AD, covering May of 1985. This week it’s the big spring relaunch, with a new story for Dredd, the return of Strontium Dog, and the debut of Judge Anderson’s solo strip!

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SO MUCH CONRAD!

Enough is never enough. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUzkghAJXZg) ;)

At first I thought it was gonna be a video of me and got worried!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 01 November, 2018, 04:45:27 am
(https://i.imgur.com/vnqXttp.jpg)

In our action-packed third episode Jason and Conrad continue their journey through the pages of the infamous classic comic with issues 4-6 of Action! This episode Hellman heads to Africa, Blackjack fights The Bull, Hookjaw bites a plane, and Coffin Sub dives into the sunset!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 01 November, 2018, 10:01:53 pm
That was one of the funniest things I have listened to in a long while, thanks for that.The shark facts and Hookjaw in general were the highlight for me. The description of what is going on in Hookjaw reminded me of a biography I read where the person was at school in the 1970s and was having a competition with a school mate to have the highest kill rate in their English homework assignments. The teacher gave them titles like 'A Night At The Theatre' and they would find ways to have hundreds die through gas leak explosions and such like. Pat Mills seems to be doing this kind of stuff in Hookjaw.

It sounds like Action is getting better as it goes along. It will be interesting to hear what you think of it by the time you reach the Kids Rule OK cover, which could well be the peak of the run.

Is this Jason"s first exposure to non-US comics? He seems to be having fun with it.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 01 November, 2018, 10:54:28 pm
All the shark stuff is so much fun. The plane especially seems like it was just pulled out of a hat and they decided to work with it. It's amazing on the page though, looking out the windows of a plane to see a dark sea full of hungry sharks!

I'm excited to see where we go with the more well known Action stories! We'll get Look out for Left next episode, and Death Game 1999 the episode after that. I'm especially interested for when Kids Rule Ok starts, in sort of the way that the second time you read an Agatha Christie novel you perk up when the killer first appears :D

I believe it's Jason's first time with British comics. He's not a huge comics guy generally, but he's really enjoying these crazy tales!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 02 November, 2018, 07:31:45 am
I'm concerned I'm now stalking Conrad. I decided that the Fantasticast sounded fun and indeed it is and hence I'm a little behind and will be listening ReAction later today with any luck... is listening to three podcasts by the same person in one week too much?

Does this mean we're going steady now?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 05 November, 2018, 05:28:13 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/0RRIrTT.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and thirty-first episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 419-422 of 2000AD, covering May and June of 1985. This week Sláine learns about balance, the Strontium Dogs get more bounties, Rogue Trooper meets some new enemies, Dark Judges attack Mega-City One, and Judge Dredd deals with the fallout. Also with episode we’ll have covered 20% of 2000AD progs!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 05 November, 2018, 07:05:16 pm
I think Frankie Wilson is probably Francis Wilson who was a breakfast TV weather presenter in the 80s.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 05 November, 2018, 10:19:48 pm
If you want to know what Middenface's song sounds like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0da8d8T8bvg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0da8d8T8bvg). (a deoch-an-doris, apparently, means 'a drink at the door').

If you're getting a bit fed up of "comic book pagan nonsense" from Pat Mills, then buckle in guys, because Uncle Pat has read a LOT of books (and more recently websites) and he's going to explain all of them in detail for the next thirty years*. A recent book of Slaine was literally a single six-week punch up in which Slaine and his opponent made speeches and shouted slogans at each other like a couple of demented internet trolls. At times, you just have to let it wash over you and enjoy the pretty pictures.

*Just a Grant & Wagner have mined their Scottihness for comic effect over a similar period. Comedy Scotsmen, pagan nonsense and gruesome death. Reckon that's as good a description of 2000ad as any!

Also enjoying re:Action, making me want to get hold of that Hookjaw reprint. (Have you read the recent reboot drawn by Conor Boyle? It's excellent, with some clever nods back to Action)

Also curious - was Paul Hardcastle's n-n-n-n-nineteen a hit, or even released in the US?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Frank on 05 November, 2018, 10:38:41 pm
Also curious - was Paul Hardcastle's n-n-n-n-nineteen a hit, or even released in the US?

I answer only to free-up Mr Spinner to answer your Hookjaw query. 15 on the pop chart, number 1 on the club chart:

https://www.billboard.com/music/paul-hardcastle/chart-history/dance-club-play-songs


Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 05 November, 2018, 11:34:03 pm
Also curious - was Paul Hardcastle's n-n-n-n-nineteen a hit, or even released in the US?

I answer only to free-up Mr Spinner to answer your Hookjaw query. 15 on the pop chart, number 1 on the club chart:

https://www.billboard.com/music/paul-hardcastle/chart-history/dance-club-play-songs

Thanks! That's one I didn't have info for.

We're about to enter a section where I think we're a little tough on Mills and the pagan stuff, and I'm not super happy with it. I (Conrad) have trouble with the whole balance between good and evil thing which rubs me the wrong way, and in the future I'm going to have a lot of disagreements on Mills's views on women as untouchable holy and incalculably treacherous. However, on the whole I really like this series, and I think it opens up into pretty good stuff by the end. I'm hoping too clear this up a bit when we get to the and of 1985 and have more of an open forum in the Spinnies. For now I'll say that it's just a big change for Slaine, from Conanesque fantasy wandering to mindbending scifi world building!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 07 November, 2018, 07:46:20 am
A little more back drop to ReAction 3 in which you mention the success of Neil Adams being one of the few in the sports star feature that actually got to a level of success in sport. Alas what you have no reason to know is that the real measure by any 70s or early eighties sports personality was their success in TV show 'Superstars' where sports folks from different arenas competed against each others in... well sports

You didn't really make it until you had competed and even better won Superstars (or fallen off a bike dramatically I guess). Alas Neil Adams was never a great champion of this competition. Unlike his mentor Brian Jacks who was surely the king of the show. I think Adams only got to one final of the series unlike Brian Jakes who gained great fame with his squat thrusts (or maybe it was his dips but squat thrusts is much more fun to type) and defeating all comers...

I mention this only as as soon as you mentioned his name my first thought was Neil Adams wasn't that good, I barely remember him in Superstars... well I did say it was a little back drop!

Fantastic show chaps.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 07 November, 2018, 08:46:10 am
I love Big Bust (and I cannot lie), seems like an ideal candidate for a film adaptation - the Killing's fine, but this covers similar ground but with a little bit more SD background.

Having a bunch of bemused alien crims singing that song, while cross-cutting to Alpha and Wulf in the bar would be amazing on film.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 12 November, 2018, 07:49:18 am
Well even though I'm only half way through I feel I have to comment on Episode 132.

First and foremost I'm of course deeply flattered that you dedicated the show to me my playing the song written in tribute to my forum name at the start (and I assume) and end of the show. Very touching.

Secondly Doug Church Block is actually named after one of the original art / design team on 2000ad. Pat Mills really rates him and his influence on the comic as he more than ably expresses in the linkie below.

https://www.millsverse.com/10-of-the-best-celebrating-some-of-2000ads-unsung-heroes/ (https://www.millsverse.com/10-of-the-best-celebrating-some-of-2000ads-unsung-heroes/).

Oh and wonderful show - thank you for making me laugh like a goon on the way into work this morning with you description of Pluke - Gold!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 12 November, 2018, 08:36:14 am
holy crap i just realised whats coming up in strontium dog :o

on another note since i was subbed way longer to the fantasticast than to this podcast it was a genuine thrill to hear conrad on it
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 12 November, 2018, 12:29:12 pm
Well even though I'm only half way through I feel I have to comment on Episode 132.

First and foremost I'm of course deeply flattered that you dedicated the show to me my playing the song written in tribute to my forum name at the start (and I assume) and end of the show. Very touching.

Secondly Doug Church Block is actually named after one of the original art / design team on 2000ad. Pat Mills really rates him and his influence on the comic as he more than ably expresses in the linkie below.

https://www.millsverse.com/10-of-the-best-celebrating-some-of-2000ads-unsung-heroes/ (https://www.millsverse.com/10-of-the-best-celebrating-some-of-2000ads-unsung-heroes/).

Oh and wonderful show - thank you for making me laugh like a goon on the way into work this morning with you description of Pluke - Gold!

Thanks! For the record YNWA was the number one for that month, for one reason or another, but who am I to go against someone's weird podcast obsession?

I've read that article before but forgot about Doug Church, I mostly remember it for Mills saying a lot of good stuff about Gerry Finley-Day. I liked that a lot because I feel like Thrillpower Overload is actually pretty mean to GFD, discussing mostly his spelling errors and how he didn't fit in with the cool kids.

holy crap i just realised whats coming up in strontium dog :o

on another note since i was subbed way longer to the fantasticast than to this podcast it was a genuine thrill to hear conrad on it

It's gonna get heavy! I was super excited to be on the Fantasticast, it's one of my main shows to listen to. I have to get something scheduled with Andy though, I've missed him twice!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 12 November, 2018, 12:32:53 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/8rbP0WW.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and thirty-second episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 423-426 of 2000AD, covering June and July of 1985. This week Judge Death gives a rude awakening, Rogue Trooper and Sláine go for the oldest trick in the book, Johnny takes on the Slavers of Drule, and Super Surf 7 begins!

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Also, we're starting to get towards the end of 1985 in our recording, and the Spinnies are on the horizon! I'd love to hear your nominations for best artist, writer, overall thrill, month, and where you think 1985 fits in with the rest of 2000AD so far! Also, what your favorite thing we covered in 2018 was! It goes from 1982 to 1985, real golden age stuff. All comments/commentary appreciated!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 12 November, 2018, 01:00:53 pm
Well even though I'm only half way through I feel I have to comment on Episode 132.

First and foremost I'm of course deeply flattered that you dedicated the show to me my playing the song written in tribute to my forum name at the start (and I assume) and end of the show. Very touching.

Thanks! For the record YNWA was the number one for that month, for one reason or another, but who am I to go against someone's weird podcast obsession?


I think it was a re-release of the song (by a Liverpool band) following a ferry disaster on the Mersey...


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holy crap i just realised whats coming up in strontium dog :o

It's gonna get heavy!


Don't quite have time to check out Barney, but I'm guessing a time job followed by a reduced cast?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 12 November, 2018, 01:10:50 pm
Well even though I'm only half way through I feel I have to comment on Episode 132.

First and foremost I'm of course deeply flattered that you dedicated the show to me my playing the song written in tribute to my forum name at the start (and I assume) and end of the show. Very touching.

Thanks! For the record YNWA was the number one for that month, for one reason or another, but who am I to go against someone's weird podcast obsession?


I think it was a re-release of the song (by a Liverpool band) following a ferry disaster on the Mersey...


It was actually for the Bradford disaster.

Please everyone knows I was just being cheeky right?!?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 12 November, 2018, 04:20:47 pm
yes...yes it is time for a bit of a RAGE inducing time with bubble gum

oh by the by the helltrekkers can't fly over the cursed earth because of the Death Belt that was introduced in the cursed earth epic. I mean i know it was dealt with later on but its still an issue at this point in the dredd timeline right?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 15 November, 2018, 04:10:32 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/x2Mh263.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and thirty-third episode we continue our journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with the 1986 Judge Dredd Annual. This is the sixth Dredd Annual, and we have Carlos Ezquerra drawing two new full color Dredd stories, and new challenger John Higgins doing one, as well as classic Dredd, some features, and an Ian Gibson Judge Anderson punch up.

This episode Conrad is joined by friend of the show and 2000AD and Dredd fan Jake Ebeling! You can find Jake on Twitter where he’s @ebeling_j

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 15 November, 2018, 04:10:50 pm
Also, we're starting to get towards the end of 1985 in our recording, and the Spinnies are on the horizon! I'd love to hear your nominations for best artist, writer, overall thrill, month, and where you think 1985 fits in with the rest of 2000AD so far! Also, what your favorite thing we covered in 2018 was! It goes from 1982 to 1985, real golden age stuff. All comments/commentary appreciated!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 15 November, 2018, 04:27:19 pm
I've always assumed the Wally Squad was named after Where's Wally?, even though it's called Where's Waldo? in America.

And I think that Walter the Wobot page must have been languishing in the "we've-paid-for-it-so-we've-got-to-use-it-sometime" drawer since 1979...
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 15 November, 2018, 04:33:47 pm
I've always assumed the Wally Squad was named after Where's Wally?, even though it's called Where's Waldo? in America.

And I think that Walter the Wobot page must have been languishing in the "we've-paid-for-it-so-we've-got-to-use-it-sometime" drawer since 1979...

Ah, but the first Where's Waldo was in 1986!

And that drawer seems to get a lot of use in '85, as we keep getting these big masses of Alan Hebden and Peter Milligan Future Shocks.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Frank on 15 November, 2018, 05:33:41 pm

When fans and journalists get a chance to interview Wagner or Grant, they waste the opportunity by asking questions about politics, when what everyone really needs to know is why the Wally Squad are called the Wally Squad.

Google suggests 'wally' was a chant that went round Woodstock*, but other than that, my level of insight hasn't changed much since I was a kid. Here's what else the word 'wally' meant** in the eighties:

(https://i.imgur.com/0lTkclc.png?1)


* Which would fit with TB Grover's age(s) and interest in the counterculture, as well as the perception of the Wally Squad as freaks and weirdoes

** 'Wallies' would only mean 'false teeth' to those afflicted by Scottishness
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: I, Cosh on 15 November, 2018, 05:41:36 pm
I just assumed it was the everyday schoolyard definition: idiot.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Frank on 15 November, 2018, 05:56:59 pm
I just assumed it was the everyday schoolyard definition: idiot.

Yeah, that's the obvious one, but that reading of the name doesn't make intuitive sense in the same way as dunk, tap or pongo. Maybe they're sometimes dressed like idiots, or pretending to be idiots, but not all the time.

It probably means idiot, but it's slippery enough to warrant further consideration.


Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 15 November, 2018, 06:21:14 pm
First time it appeared on my radar would have been in Only Fools and Horses...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA3ylZl6zO0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA3ylZl6zO0)

Which would have been around the right time.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 15 November, 2018, 06:38:41 pm
A wally is also a gherkin according to my South London bred parents (they're from Shooters Hill in Eltham, which subsequently turns out to be where Bill Savage originally comes from...)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 15 November, 2018, 09:20:17 pm
And that drawer seems to get a lot of use in '85, as we keep getting these big masses of Alan Hebden and Peter Milligan Future Shocks.

That poor drawer suffers in the 90s
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 16 November, 2018, 05:59:13 pm
A wally is also a gherkin according to my South London bred parents (they're from Shooters Hill in Eltham, which subsequently turns out to be where Bill Savage originally comes from...)
Where else would the most famous Londoner who always wields a shooter come from?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 17 November, 2018, 11:44:36 am
I thought it was funny in the latest episode covering 426 where Conrad and Fox puzzled over why the US letter had the address stated as Fargo, USA without mentioning the state. The state seems superfluous to us and is never used in the UK, although US music acts touring Europe will sometimes state 'London, England', 'Glasgow, Scotland', 'Paris, France', etc on their tour posters. It looks odd to us, as it implies we could be confused and think they mean another London/Glasgow/Paris if they do not state the country.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 19 November, 2018, 04:41:58 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/QWMW3iH.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and thirty-fourth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 427-430 of 2000AD, covering July and August of 1985. This week Judge Anderson gets her man, Rogue gets sandy, Ace Garp gets bad news, and Super Surf 7 gets underway! WRITE HIS NAME IN BLOOD

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I thought it was funny in the latest episode covering 426 where Conrad and Fox puzzled over why the US letter had the address stated as Fargo, USA without mentioning the state. The state seems superfluous to us and is never used in the UK, although US music acts touring Europe will sometimes state 'London, England', 'Glasgow, Scotland', 'Paris, France', etc on their tour posters. It looks odd to us, as it implies we could be confused and think they mean another London/Glasgow/Paris if they do not state the country.

It is one of those US things I guess, we love saying the state!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 19 November, 2018, 08:52:41 pm
I thought it was funny in the latest episode covering 426 where Conrad and Fox puzzled over why the US letter had the address stated as Fargo, USA without mentioning the state. The state seems superfluous to us and is never used in the UK, although US music acts touring Europe will sometimes state 'London, England', 'Glasgow, Scotland', 'Paris, France', etc on their tour posters. It looks odd to us, as it implies we could be confused and think they mean another London/Glasgow/Paris if they do not state the country.


That's Chief Judge Fargo to you, citizen!


Re: London, England - I blame Ontario!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 20 November, 2018, 07:44:37 am
Great episode once again.

I particularly loved the fact that you have a definative fav piece of art of all time. There's so much good stuff to be able to fix it on one spread is so cool.

I'm also curious as to when Dredd was both of your favourite thrill - seems like a age ago... though that could very possibly be my rubbish memory. If its right however it speaks to the fact that there is sooo much good stuff in the Progs at this time.

Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 20 November, 2018, 04:47:08 pm
Great episode once again.

I particularly loved the fact that you have a definative fav piece of art of all time. There's so much good stuff to be able to fix it on one spread is so cool.

I'm also curious as to when Dredd was both of your favourite thrill - seems like a age ago... though that could very possibly be my rubbish memory. If its right however it speaks to the fact that there is sooo much good stuff in the Progs at this time.

Yeah it’s been a while since Dredd was a top for both us. The progs have really bee going from strength to strength, giving us amazing stuff!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 21 November, 2018, 08:18:01 pm
enjoy the highs while you can guys
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 22 November, 2018, 06:39:42 am
(https://i.imgur.com/xDxiIBC.jpg)

In our action-packed fourth episode Jason and Conrad continue their journey through the pages of the infamous classic comic with issues 10-12 of Action! This episode we’re getting into phase two of action, as some early stories end and some new ones start. Hookjaw will return!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Funt Solo on 22 November, 2018, 04:05:25 pm
I thought it was funny in the latest episode covering 426 where Conrad and Fox puzzled over why the US letter had the address stated as Fargo, USA without mentioning the state. The state seems superfluous to us and is never used in the UK, although US music acts touring Europe will sometimes state 'London, England', 'Glasgow, Scotland', 'Paris, France', etc on their tour posters. It looks odd to us, as it implies we could be confused and think they mean another London/Glasgow/Paris if they do not state the country.

There are at least three London’s in the USA: in Ohio, Arkansas and Kentucky. So they (y’know, the homogenous hive mind known as the Americans) need to specify the state because they were so unoriginal and homage-driven when it came to naming things when they politely told the locals to move along the bench and make some room. They have ten Newcastles.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Fungus on 22 November, 2018, 05:41:56 pm
Stating the state makes sense, yup. Original place-naming feels a bit route 1; plenty of Burns, Hills, Fields, Ends, Mills and Ports, etc. Sticking New ahead of US placenames is pretty cheeky (York, England, even... South Wales). A real missed opportunity with New Newcastle  :)
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: The Monarch on 23 November, 2018, 01:54:04 pm
so wait if america calls badges buttons what do they call buttons
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Funt Solo on 23 November, 2018, 02:52:38 pm
so wait if america calls badges buttons what do they call buttons

Buttons.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Frank on 23 November, 2018, 04:35:33 pm

https://youtu.be/FggHwHnoz8U


Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 23 November, 2018, 04:51:46 pm
Subutteo is great! My big brother used to force me to play all the time - he had a pal who had all the pitch-side accessories like stands, scoreboards and floodlights, plus dozens of carefully painted teams. I was rubbish at it and had to be bullied into playing so he could beat me - but once you snap a couple of those plastic suckers off their base, you tend to get left alone!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: FoxIsntARobot on 23 November, 2018, 05:11:26 pm
so wait if america calls badges buttons what do they call buttons

Buttons.

This literally made me laugh so hard water shot out of my nose. I love this forum.

To clarify, badge/buttons can also be called Pins.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: AlexF on 23 November, 2018, 06:40:20 pm
Is it bad etiquette to post my Spinnies 1985 submissions here?
In any case:

Top Artist: it can only be Carlos Ezquerra, but my mind is ever blown by his amazing brick statues of the Lords of Drule.
Top Writer: Pat Mills, and specifically for those bits of Time Killer that annoy Fox and Conrad so much. I LIKE the good/evil balance nonsense.
Best overall thrill: The Mean Team! Because I am still my inner 7 year-old self. Never has violent death looked and sounded so much fun. Maximum Kill Points!!
Best month: October - if only because October 1985 is when I read my first ever Prog (but also I have a special love for Two Ton Tony, and Farewell, my Billions - not to mention the mighty Mean Team)
Best Year: you'd think for the reason stated above 1985 would have to rank as my favourite year ever but frankly Helltrekkers and Horst-era Rogue Trooper are so dull I think 1984 has the edge this time.

Best Space Spinner Memories from 2018? Gotta be our genial hosts waxing poetical and practically weeping into their microphones over the glories of Skizz.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 23 November, 2018, 09:16:41 pm
Thanks! Yeah everyone post your Spinnies here if you want to!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 24 November, 2018, 04:22:12 pm
As with the lasty Spinnies, I am reading along with the podcast and so can only judge the latter part of the year through the covers and my very distant memory of those progs.

Best Writer: John Wagner/Alan Grant
Best Story: Nemesis Book IV
Best Art: Cam Kennedy for Super Surf - especially shooting the O of the Okey Dokey Man
Best Month: July
Biggest improvement: Halo Jones Book 2.



Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 24 November, 2018, 07:03:26 pm
Best writer: Alan Moore
Best artist: Carlos for the Slavers of Drule
Top thrill: Halo Jones
Best month: February

Great work from Conrad, Fox and all the guest hosts.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Huey2 on 25 November, 2018, 09:48:50 pm
Top writer: Wagner/ Grant
Top artist: Belardinelli
Top thrill: Ace Trucking - the most underrated of all 2000ad strips. Fantastic stories totally driven by the characters. And that ending! - one of the top moments of the past 40+ years.
Top month: October
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 26 November, 2018, 05:39:16 am
(https://i.imgur.com/xovT10u.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and thirty-fifth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 431-434 of 2000AD, covering August and September of 1985. This week Dredd fights Nosferatu (WRITE HIS NAME IN BLOOD), Rogue gets the antigen, Johnny Alpha takes down the Slavers of Drule, and Ace takes the croakside trip! The fall relaunch is coming, all storylines must end!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 27 November, 2018, 08:34:16 am
Loved the reference to kids stuffing their pockets with rocks and holding their breath under water!  This really spoke to me - I was that kid!

When I was 13 or so I went to the bottom of a 12 foot swimming pool, and decided to let air out of my lungs to see if I could stay down there longer.  I almost stayed there permanently!  When I realised my error I kicked up and just managed to grab the bottom rung of the ladder and haul myself out.

Also, they should make one of those kid safety films about not stuffing a forklift palette with polystyrene and using it as a raft on the Water of Leith while wearing a heavy duffel coat and wellies. I almost came a cropper then too, when the polystyrene started escaping from underneath, and the palette flipped me over into the deepest part of that river.  Friends watching on the bank had to wade in and haul me out.

I could list so many other stupid things I did as a child. I am the poster boy of those films.  It's a wonder I made it into adulthood to be honest.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 27 November, 2018, 09:39:13 am
I wondered where they got the inspiration for Blake Edmonds in Death Wish from.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 27 November, 2018, 09:53:34 am
I wondered where they got the inspiration for Blake Edmonds in Death Wish from.

I have the looks too!   :lol:
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 27 November, 2018, 02:38:52 pm
PS - my record for holding my breath underwater was 2 mins 59 seconds.  I never could crack that 3 minute mark.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Funt Solo on 28 November, 2018, 03:21:34 am
Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I'm right.

Top writer: Alan Moore (for The Ballad of Halo Jones, Book II)
Sequels are difficult to do well, but here Halo's universe expands.  The Rat King, the Glyph, Toby's motives, the dance with Lux Roth Chop, the dolphins.  It's all just so fucking good.

Top artist: Glenn Fabry (for his work on Time Killer)
Fabry seemed to be at the top of his game here, with amazing dynamic combat scenes in the arena, and a brand new look for Slaine. 

Top thrill: Judge Dredd - Midnight Surfer
Chopper was last seen as King Scrawler (from Unamerican Graffiti in 1981).  What crazed genius set him on a power board four years later?  It's top notch thrills from the best Dredd writer - the man with the plan - Mr John Wagner himself, and a real treat of art from Cam "Best Hoppers" Kennedy, showing us how to shoot the 'O' in style.

Honorable mentions:
Nemesis Book V: The Vengeance of Thoth by Pat Mills and Bryan Talbot.  Crazy time-traveling soap opera antics with perhaps the two weirdest families in the galaxy and a crazed pet tyrannosaur.

Anderson Psi-Division: Four Dark Judges.  The return of the best supernatural threat ever to darken the doors of Justice Department, and Anderson stepping up for her own series.  Top notch thrillage, smudged slightly by the need for three artists.  Let the dead fluidsss flow!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 03 December, 2018, 07:09:41 am
(https://i.imgur.com/hb2vqSF.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and thirty-sixth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 435-438 of 2000AD, covering September and October of 1985. This week Dredd deals with murder-bots and the start of a conspiracy, Nemesis and Robot-Hunter return, and we get to know the Mean Team! Oh, and Tharg is back in the comics.

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 06 December, 2018, 05:33:01 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/VWV8YG3.png)

In our thrilling hundred thirty-seventh episode we continue our journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with the 1986 2000AD Annual. This is the ninth 2000AD annual and we’re seeing a great combination of new stories and classic thrills in these pages. The highlights of this year’s annual include an abridged version of classic thrill Shako, and the iconic Apocalypse War Dredd comic strip!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 06 December, 2018, 08:06:26 pm
Thanks Conrad for all your hard work! This is the best podcast out there.

I am still reading along with the show and The Mean Team is better than I remember it. I am wondering if I just confused it with Mean Arena in my memory or whether it goes drastically downhill.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 06 December, 2018, 08:43:33 pm
Thanks Conrad for all your hard work! This is the best podcast out there.

I am still reading along with the show and The Mean Team is better than I remember it. I am wondering if I just confused it with Mean Arena in my memory or whether it goes drastically downhill.

Mean Team gets a bad press (not least from the editorial staff of 2000AD about a decade later, sadly), but I always love an excuse to showcase Belardinelli's imagination.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 06 December, 2018, 08:44:55 pm
Top artist: Glenn Fabry (for his work on Time Killer)
Fabry seemed to be at the top of his game here, with amazing dynamic combat scenes in the arena, and a brand new look for Slaine. 


It is good, but gets better for Sláine the King (spoilered because there's at least on person who might read this who won't know about future developments).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 06 December, 2018, 09:08:06 pm
I think I ended up spoiling this for Fox in a later episode because Tomb of Terror is in the collection with that name.

And I think maybe it’s the second part of Mean Team that’s bad? This first section has some good action and the brain transplant stuff is inspired imo. It might also being 80s teens being too cool for sports comics? 😁
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 06 December, 2018, 09:32:50 pm
I think I ended up spoiling this for Fox in a later episode because Tomb of Terror is in the collection with that name.

Though thinking back - doesn't the very first episode foretell where Slaine will end up?  Blame Pat!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 06 December, 2018, 09:34:56 pm
SMF playing up - had to split my reply into two parts, otherwise it insisted that my reply was empty!


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And I think maybe it’s the second part of Mean Team that’s bad? This first section has some good action and the brain transplant stuff is inspired imo. It might also being 80s teens being too cool for sports comics? 😁

I liked both parts - first was Mean Arena / Inferno-y while the second bit with post-apocalyptic, ruralised Earth harked back to Meltdown Man.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Funt Solo on 06 December, 2018, 09:46:23 pm
One of the things I love about 2000 AD, and this board, is that there's almost no thrill that's universally either loved or loathed.  Something for everyone.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Tjm86 on 06 December, 2018, 10:10:52 pm
One of the things I love about 2000 AD, and this board, is that there's almost no thrill that's universally either loved or loathed.  Something for everyone.

Except 'Crusade' ...

In fact pretty much all of Millar's prog writing falls into that category.  Only artwork ever gives it any breath of life (Silo, I'm looking at you here ... and Robo-Hunter, Mr Hughes).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Funt Solo on 06 December, 2018, 10:20:56 pm
I really liked Silo, don't remember Crusade and my opinions on non-Wagner/Grant Robo-Hunter are best left in the padded cell in my brain, gnawing at the walls in pathetic, drooling madness.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 06 December, 2018, 10:38:56 pm
Mean Team is such an odd-one, like the switch from Blackhawk in Tornado to the Space Arena (or even the space arena to Silversun)

I guess maybe it was because sports strips fell out of favour a little, I don't know if 'The Beast' was pulling extra duties, with Robohunter, Dredd, Strontium Dog and Mean Team was the one that he didn't have much invested in, so Alan Hebden just took over.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 07 December, 2018, 01:10:25 pm
I really liked Silo, don't remember Crusade and my opinions on non-Wagner/Grant Robo-Hunter are best left in the padded cell in my brain, gnawing at the walls in pathetic, drooling madness.


Mark Millar, Mick Austin on art, something about Vatican judges, who are nowhere near as interesting as Vatican paranormal investigators.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 07 December, 2018, 01:12:00 pm
I really liked Silo, don't remember Crusade and my opinions on non-Wagner/Grant Robo-Hunter are best left in the padded cell in my brain, gnawing at the walls in pathetic, drooling madness.

I think even with non-Wagner and Grant Robohunter, you still have Casanovas and Hughes art to raise it a little (perhaps if somebody went through them and made up new dialogue - or just removed what's there already).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Colin YNWA on 07 December, 2018, 09:44:26 pm
One of the things I love about 2000 AD, and this board, is that there's almost no thrill that's universally either loved or loathed.  Something for everyone.

This, so very this.

Oh and I really like Silo and the first Manic Five as well.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: WhizzBang on 08 December, 2018, 11:03:30 pm
Thursday's 1986 Annual show was great - more non-British co-hosts please! It is always entertaining to hear the perspective of people who are new to it.

It was interesting that Zane thought the annual itself was a nice introduction to the wider 2000ad stable. I think this was also partly the point of these annuals. I certainly had annuals given to me for things I hadn't read, and if I liked them enough I would be willing to check out the weekly comic.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 10 December, 2018, 02:52:44 am
I think I ended up spoiling this for Fox in a later episode because Tomb of Terror is in the collection with that name.

Though thinking back - doesn't the very first episode foretell where Slaine will end up?  Blame Pat!

Very first line of Slaine in Prog 330: "And so it begins... the saga of Slaine Mac Roth of the Sessair - mercenary, cattle-rustler and battle-smiter, who rose to become a legendary king of the tribes of the earth goddess."
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 10 December, 2018, 06:40:52 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/O6BWSnz.jpg)

In our thrilling hundred and thirty-eighth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy’s Greatest Comic with Progs 431-434 of 2000AD, covering August and September of 1985. This week Dredd deals with fatties, Nemesis and Torquemada team up, Mean Team hits 5000, and Sam Slade cracks up!

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Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Dandontdare on 11 December, 2018, 03:59:34 pm
If there was a category in the Spinnies for "comment most likely to come back and bite you in the ass" it's gotta be Fox's: "Mean Team - well I'm not hating this yet!" I find the art on Mean Team to be a long way below Belardinelli's best - when he's dealing with (mainly) humans rather than crazy aliens, his figures and composition are a bit static, it doesn't play to his strengths.

And I must lodge a complaint: I'm fine with American English having different words and spellings for some things (even the bizarre way you guys pronounce 'buoy') but in this latest episode, you committed the unforgivable sin, the one that sets my teeth on edge and cannot be explained by cultural differences as it's just plain wrong. I refer of course to LEGOS - the toy is called Lego (singular) and is composed of different sized Lego bricks (or blocks or pieces) but each piece is not called 'a Lego' and there is no plural of that word (rant over!)

This podcast has become part of my Monday ritual - I get in from work, pull out the relevant progs and read along. Keep up the great work - we've got Halo Jones III, plus some fantastic Nemesis and Strontium Dog action coming up, which I can't wait for.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Steve Green on 11 December, 2018, 04:14:08 pm
I'm wondering what a Dwedd story with hundreds of Walters in an attempt to dwive Dwedd (and Fox) cwazy would be like.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 11 December, 2018, 08:59:14 pm
My whole life they’ve been legos! Also I assure you Americans find the English pronunciation of “buoy” equally perplexing. Also: we’ve got some hot Mean Team takes coming down the pipeline!

And, hundweds of Walters? That would weally be tewwible!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: Funt Solo on 11 December, 2018, 10:13:02 pm
I'm British but teach math (not maths) to Americans, and it confuses the fuck out of them when I refer to 0.5 as "nought point five" because they think I'm saying "not point five".  I should say "zero point five".

Some things I've learned to change (like pronouncing tulip as two-lip, rather than chew-lip), but nought is too far ingrained to shift.

And then there's Arkansas.  And Boise.  And Butte.  And bangs.  And lifts.  And pants.  And rubbers.
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 12 December, 2018, 12:43:31 pm
My whole life they’ve been legos! Also I assure you Americans find the English pronunciation of “buoy” equally perplexing. Also: we’ve got some hot Mean Team takes coming down the pipeline!

And, hundweds of Walters? That would weally be tewwible!


The wascal, putting the idea of a pwofusion of Walters in my bwain.  I'm afwaid that this kind of twope might pwedominate.  Let us not west in our stwuggle to pwevent such an occuwence from twanspiwing.  We must pwevail!
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 12 December, 2018, 12:44:52 pm
My whole life they’ve been legos! Also I assure you Americans find the English pronunciation of “buoy” equally perplexing. Also: we’ve got some hot Mean Team takes coming down the pipeline!

And, hundweds of Walters? That would weally be tewwible!


The wascal, putting the idea of a pwofusion of Walters in my bwain.  I'm afwaid that this kind of twope might pwedominate.  Let us not west in our stwuggle to pwevent such an occuwence from twanspiwing.  We must pwevail!

I felt like Chekov after writing that - now where's that nuclear wessel?
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: sheridan on 12 December, 2018, 12:47:55 pm
My whole life they’ve been legos! Also I assure you Americans find the English pronunciation of “buoy” equally perplexing. Also: we’ve got some hot Mean Team takes coming down the pipeline!

And, hundweds of Walters? That would weally be tewwible!


The wascal, putting the idea of a pwofusion of Walters in my bwain.  I'm afwaid that this kind of twope might pwedominate.  Let us not west in our stwuggle to pwevent such an occuwence from twanspiwing.  We must pwevail!

I felt like Chekov after writing that - now where's that nuclear wessel?

(further clarification - Pavel Chekov played by Walter Koenig and Anton Yelchin, not Anton Chekhov,played by Anton Checkhov).
Title: Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
Post by: SpaceSpinner2000 on 13 December, 2018, 07:06:38 am
(https://i.imgur.com/VXNGnDv.jpg)

n our action-packed fifth episode Jason and Conrad continue their journey through the pages of the infamous classic comic with issues 13-15 of Action! This episode the Action keeps increasing, as new story Death Game 1999 begins and Hookjaw returns!

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