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Title: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: davidbishop on 11 November, 2017, 12:57:28 pm
"Most unnecessary pop-culture revivial since Salt-n-Pepa's Lonely Hearts Club Band.'  :lol:
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Richard on 11 November, 2017, 02:23:01 pm
That was a particularly good Sinister Dexter this week.

I prefer these daft comedy one-parters to the massive sprawling epic storylines, at least where SinDex is concerned.
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 11 November, 2017, 03:15:42 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/yFZKaA4.jpg)

Boo Cook
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 11 November, 2017, 03:37:37 pm
That's quite possibly the cover of year for me.
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 11 November, 2017, 03:38:42 pm
That's quite possibly the cover of year for me.

Very trade-worthy!
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: The Monarch on 11 November, 2017, 03:38:51 pm
that cover makes it worth bringing revere back in indigo prime def cover of the year candidate
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Tjm86 on 11 November, 2017, 03:50:29 pm
That was my first thought.  Revere would be absolutely perfect for Boo Cook's style and that cover is proof positive.  We need to start a petition!
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: TordelBack on 11 November, 2017, 03:59:00 pm
"Most unnecessary pop-culture revivial since Salt-n-Pepa's Lonely Hearts Club Band.'  :lol:

That's no way to talk about Revere.
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Colin YNWA on 11 November, 2017, 04:11:46 pm
I see Dredd by PJ, Davis on Slaine too
I read Tharg's thrills, for me and you
and I think to myself, what a wonderful Prog.

I read Sinister and Dexter, running through Downlode too
I see Absalom with a historical view
And I think to myself what a wonderful Prog

I see Indigo Prime, yes the writer might not be quite right
The story is blessed though, the art a delight
And I think to myself what a wonderful Prog

The puns by Adnett and Yeowell so pretty on the eye
Slaine might not that surprising, but at least Mills was giving it a try
I see Tharg give us thrills of such different style, tones and hue
He's really saying Earthets I love you.

We'll hear some Squaxx dek Thargo crying, its always so
Aside from Slaine what's wrong with this Prog, I'll never know
And I think to myself what a wonderful Prog
Oh Yes I think to myself what a Zarjaz Prog
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Fungus on 11 November, 2017, 05:12:46 pm
That's quite possibly the cover of year for me.

It’s got pluses and minuses.
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Colin YNWA on 11 November, 2017, 05:21:18 pm
That's quite possibly the cover of year for me.

It’s got pluses and minuses.

I thank you.
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 11 November, 2017, 05:41:05 pm
That's quite possibly the cover of year for me.

It’s got pluses and minuses.

I see what you did there.
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 11 November, 2017, 09:49:52 pm
Lovely little Edmund Bagwell nod in the opening page of Indigo Prime too - an "Image Magician" indeed.
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Magnetica on 12 November, 2017, 07:53:23 am
Not sure if this should go in the Prog thread or the Meg thread (but that hasn’t been started yet)...anyway...

In the Nerve Centre Tharg describes the latest floppy as “The Complete Helium”.

Does that mean it’s not coming back? I didn’t think what was published was it. If it is, it puts a different take on the ending: I had taken it as a cliff-hanger, not that Constable Hodge and the others were killed.

Also (and I haven’t read it again yet), but weren’t there a load of outstanding questions, not least how did the world come to be the way it is?
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Colin YNWA on 12 November, 2017, 07:57:39 am
From the Nerve Centre I did get the impression that's it, but I think Thrag said there would be more back in the day (not read it since publication so could be wrong).

Shame as I really enjoyed it, but if you look at what the creators involved have on, might be fair to call it a day and allow them to focus on other strips.
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Fungus on 12 November, 2017, 08:19:28 am
Definitely felt like book 1 of something bigger, was put across that way I'm sure. After Stickleback, my favourite of theirs, much preferred to Scarlet Traces anyway.
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Richard on 12 November, 2017, 01:17:29 pm
It is complete in the sense that it is the whole story so far. He may be priming us for Book 2.
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: glassstanley on 14 November, 2017, 04:12:09 pm
The final ep in the prog had  "Helium will return". This has disappeared from the floppy, along with the weekly credits & story title etc.

I'm resigned to this being another Edginton strip that has been left abandoned half-way through (see also Ampney Crucis). I'd guess there's more money to be found in Strange Traces.
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Steve Green on 14 November, 2017, 05:16:39 pm
Ian said he was working on Helium but Tiernen was taking over on art duties.

Unless something has changed since he said this at Thought Bubble.

https://youtu.be/8zUMtWZ1vuY?t=1481 (https://youtu.be/8zUMtWZ1vuY?t=1481)
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 14 November, 2017, 05:21:09 pm
Ian said he was working on Helium but Tiernen was taking over on art duties.

OOOH.
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: glassstanley on 14 November, 2017, 06:47:02 pm
I retract my earlier cynicism! 😁
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Colin YNWA on 14 November, 2017, 09:55:22 pm
Ian said he was working on Helium but Tiernen was taking over on art duties.

Unless something has changed since he said this at Thought Bubble.

https://youtu.be/8zUMtWZ1vuY?t=1481 (https://youtu.be/8zUMtWZ1vuY?t=1481)

That's workin'
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Richard on 14 November, 2017, 11:02:33 pm
Quote
...along with the weekly credits & story title etc.

This should have been a clue not to read too much into it.
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: 73north on 15 November, 2017, 11:36:08 am
I totally enjoyed Sinister Dexter , this week ( the best story in the prog this week )
Dan Abnett knows how to write a great story , Dredd Black Snow is shaping up as a really good read and different to the usual stuff , I like Slaine and Absalom as well -

HOWEVER - the real daft story that I can't understand and can't wait to end ' INDIGO PRIME '
I pride myself on being a reasonably intelligent person , but this story really makes little sense

- please can we have a new series of Jaegir sooner rather than later ?
and can we have Helium back for the Prog as well ? - as the bagged give away floppy in the Megazine emphasized how long has been the interval between the last story appearing and it still to re-emerge
( Rant over )
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Richard on 15 November, 2017, 01:15:11 pm
I took the reprint only two years later as a sign that it's coming back soon.
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: norton canes on 16 November, 2017, 10:19:57 am
Cover: It's good, though I'd be fibbing if I said I didn't think it was a tiny bit too busy. Also it has one of my pet comic art hates, digitally-added motion blur. It's perfectly clear from the superbly drawn pose that Revere is caught in mid-leap. We don't need to see motion blur to reinforce that. Yes, I know 'whizz lines' have been part of comic art since comic art existed but an indication of motion that's drawn onto the page is infinitely preferable to Photoshopped blur.

Sorry, picky.

Dredd: Good stuff, and the plot gets a nice development at the end. I thought some of the action frames were slightly confusing in terms of who was attacking who. And, 'animal hide' that can stop armour piercing rounds? Woah.

Slaine: Let's be honest, compared to the amount of verve and imagination on display in the other strips, this is pretty dreary and uninspired stuff. It looks great courtesy of Mr Davis but I get the sense he doesn't have much to work with, which is why he's ending up drawing the same characters repeatedly in the same pose.

Indigo Prime: I can't say I'm really connecting with this but it's a decent read. It just needs a bit more fizz, if that's not too disconcertingly vague. That Danny Redman line about the football pools sounded so clumsy, sorry. 

SinDex: Love it. The panel that has them firing with silencers had me properly laughing. 'FUT, FUT, FUT'  :D

Absalom: Top Thrill again, this is superb. The replacement eyes... so disturbing, especially with the image right next to the one on the previous page with the bulging eyes, ripe for plucking... ew.
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Geoff on 16 November, 2017, 12:22:57 pm
I was about to write a few observations myself, then I read what norton canes wrote and... well he's pretty much covered everything that I was thinking. Other than to say again how great the art on Indigo Prime is.
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: TordelBack on 16 November, 2017, 02:48:12 pm
Most things ticking along, but it's Slaine that really nibbles my thrill-biscuit.  There is surely no other comic today that can boast art like that: absolutely mesmerising.  SBD has always been fantastic on everything from SinDex to Stone Island to Ampney Crucis, but this week's episode feels like a new high point to me. 

Plot's not bad either, although I'm disappointed that we ended up with monster-rape again: maybe Pat's going somewhere with this, but it isn't promising.  I'd also be lying if I said I hadn't been hoping for Elfric. 

But that art... glaaargle.
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Colin YNWA on 16 November, 2017, 09:15:31 pm
.... that really nibbles my thrill-biscuit....

HA!
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 17 November, 2017, 07:48:34 am
I will take Tordel's baked confectionary metaphor and add to it, by saying the strips in this prog were positively huddled together playing a game of "Thrilly Biscuit".
Dredd, Slaine, SiniDex, Absalom- all were frantically bashing out the Thrills, with an eye on the dormitory door in case Tharg came back.
In such games there always has to be a loser, and I'm afraid Indigo Prime has to munch the digestive this time, but even that can't detract from the overall feeling of being well-spent as you turn the last page.
SBT
Title: Re: Prog 2057 - A Witch in Time
Post by: Andy Lambert on 18 November, 2017, 12:08:15 pm
This is the first Indigo Prime I've come across, and I thought having no previous exposure to it was the reason why I'm struggling to follow it, so it comes as some relief to find that longer term readers are struggling with it themselves and it's not just me.