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Website and Forum / Re: Wax on-topic, wax off-topic......
« on: 12 February, 2005, 08:48:35 pm »
A few last words from myself to you all before I dissapear for ages again...

I'm not a troll, a Scojo, a Cairns, 2K writer stirring up things or any other boarder under alias. I visit here and post only in the still moments of my life, or when I get the need to hop on a post that entertains or stimulates me. I don't feel the need to become involved in everything because I don't feel any obligation to have an opinion on everything. If I've offended anyone, it wasn't intentional (you'd know about it if it was) so get over it ;) Finally, try not to take this site or life too seriously because you'll just end up neurotic.

Whenever next.

Noah.

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Website and Forum / Re: Wax on-topic, wax off-topic......
« on: 12 February, 2005, 08:33:02 pm »
Finally Wils. As I said in an earlier reply, and I admitted it unfortunately came across as rather arrogant, I was trying to point out that I'm neutral when it comes to board divisions so I'm between both sides of the arguement. I do however believe that everyone here has the right to post (obviously within certain moral boundaries) what they like. Again you are more than capable of ignoring it, but by not doing so you merely add fuel to the fire.

I don't actually get what you are trying to say with your comments about what the 'look at me brigade' doesn't like. I thought the issue was more about the boards being used exclusively for 2000ad related topics. Or am I missing some major point?

As to pubs not being the place where the socially or emotionally retarded should seek therapy, that wasn't what I was saying and I suspect by the tone and replies of your posts that you are seeking an argument rather than a debate. Also, considering the number of people who disguise their social problems with alcohol, closet especially, who do see pubs and booze as their "therapy" you may just have to accept that there are people in the world who are different to you and may view you as equally irritating as you view them. Like what you like, ignore what you don't.

Noah.

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Website and Forum / Re: Wax on-topic, wax off-topic......
« on: 12 February, 2005, 08:08:54 pm »
On to Si. As Oddboy pointed out the reference to Trout was due to the fact that he was responsible for starting this thread, no doubt aware that it would, as usual end up a heated debate or a slanging match. Very evil, but a total genius when it comes to these type of threads ;)

From the posts I read I assumed that there was a general lumping together of "look at me", "whoring for sympathy" and off-topicness. If that's not the case then I apologise for misreading the situation. Although being a writer you will understand just how easy it is to misconstrue posts at times.

On the subject of the 'look at me posts', well I can understand what you are saying about some of them luring unsuspecting boarders in, but does that mean that you have to linger or return? If I go to the library and choose a book I'm not under any obligation to finish reading it if I don't want to. The same should apply to these type of posts. Let the peole who want to respond to them do so and if you want to avoid them like the plague once you know what they are.

Finally, you probably have a point, at least to a degree, about the socially inept hindering themselves rather than helping by going on sites like this. But then again, even if they get off to a bad start, at least they are connecting and developing their social skills. You can't move mountains overnight so obviously sometimes the change isn't instantly noticable. I'm sure there are plenty of people here who could come up with a number of boarders, who played the 'look at me card' and for want of a better term started of as irritating twats. But if you look at them now they've settled in nicely. That, to some extent is why I don't really have a major problem when I see similar posts.

Noah.

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Website and Forum / Re: Wax on-topic, wax off-topic......
« on: 12 February, 2005, 07:42:21 pm »
Righty ho, I'll reply to the points raised individualy rather than on one post, mainly cos I can't be arsed to cut & paste and they'll be shorter.

First up shazhuges. Sorry if that remark about being 'more qualified' came across as arrogant. It wasn't supposed to but that's the problem with replying to posts when you feel you have to defend your viewpoint. You can end up seeming a tad stroppy ;)

I was, as I said trying to get across the fact that as a casual visitor I don't really take sides over the board divisions but I do believe in the rights of anyone to post what they feel is relevant in their lives at the time, whether it's crap or not. It's like TV. You don't need to look at these posts if you dont want to, so it shouldn't really be a major cause for debate. It's that simple.

Noah

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Website and Forum / Re: Wax on-topic, wax off-topic......
« on: 11 February, 2005, 08:49:06 pm »
'Don't talk such utter cock.'

Well after such an elequent and well thought out reply, how can I fail to respond.

I take a backstage view of events on the board with no alliegance to either side of the debate. Just my own view of the bigger picture so I feel I'm slightly more qualified and extremely entitled to air an opinion based on my observations.

This is, as I've already stated, that there is a division amongst boarders over whether or not people should be allowed to post off-topic or as you put it yourself 'attention-seeking "look how funny, erudite and *totally* zany I am" threads and those just whoring for sympathy'. Now as far as I can see there is no reason why, especially on an open forum, people should not be allowed to post what they want.

The whole point of sites like these, as I couldn't have set out any clearer in my posts, is for fans to meet up and chat. It's the same scenario as a pub. The people share a common interest of drinking, but you don't have to socialise with everyone there.

The problem is, that there is undeniably a lot of venom aimed towards boarders over certain posts. As you put it yourself 'those just whoring for sympathy *do* just fuck some of us off'. Not a particularly tolerant or sympathetic approach is it? Do you think that anyone with genuine problems reading your reply would feel welcome here or do you think you may be adding to their issues with your "fuck off" attitude?

'Would you air your dirty laundry on the messageboard? Didn't think so.'

Actually, If I didn't have an understanding and supportive partner and friends I may well 'air my dirty laundry here, so it's probably best that you don't attempt to pre-empt the replies of myself or any of the boarders responsible for those 'whoring for sympathy' posts.


' That comment is *so* pathetically laughable (and even a tad mentalist), I'm not even going to comment any further on it.'

That was the general idea. It's using an extreme example to get a point across. You obviously missed that though because you were too ready to go on the defensive without reading the post properly.

I hope your happy now Mr Trout!

Noah.

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Website and Forum / Re: Wax on-topic, wax off-topic...
« on: 10 February, 2005, 06:50:41 pm »
I've been trying not to go down this road because the whole on/off-topic thread debate has been done so many times before, but what the Hell eh. If it livens things up round here I'll start the controversial ball rolling...

It seems to me that this site is steadily creeping
towards elitism again. It used to be a place where anyone could air their views, however stupid or near the knuckle with the minimum amount of critiscism.

The fact of the matter is that this is a site devoted to 2000ad for fans of 2000ad. That means that it isn't just for people who want to talk inanely about nothing else than their favourite comic, but also about the other things in their lives.

I came on here to meet and virtually socialise with people who share common interests. Not just an infatuation with a comic. If this site consisted of nothing but on-topic 2000ad related posts then you wouldn't see me, and I imagine quite a few other boarders for dust.

The people who come here post what they want because this isn't a dictatorship and as such they are allowed to do so no matter how stupid or irrelevant their posts may, or may seem to be. People come here to have fun and chat to the members of this community they have made a connection with. That is essentially the whole point of fan sites. A meeting place for people with shared interests.

When it's at the point where there are actually divisions between whether or not there should be a seperate board for off-topic threads why don't we just take it one step further and go for segregation according to race, creed and colour? That may seem extreme, and rightfully so, but the point is that any form of discrimination, whowever small, is still discrimination. Like what you like and accept that not everyone else will share your views.

The bottom line? There are far more important things in life to be getting pissed off about instead of something so trivial.

Noah.  

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Website and Forum / Re: Wax on-topic, wax off-topic......
« on: 10 February, 2005, 06:19:06 pm »
'I've no problem with off-topiciness at all, except for the look at me/woe is me ones, which piss me off but end up being like a scab you've just got to pick.'

Hmm, a bit harsh Wils. What you have to remember is that the internet and sites like this give many people, who feel alone or outside of society, the chance to connect with others just like themselves. By this I don't mean angst ridden fook-ups, but people with the same interests who can, hopefully, help them develop emotionally and shed all that negativity.

It's kind of like having a mentor or just someone you can talk to when you're feeling alone, you think no-one understands you or you just don't want to discuss things with people you know.

Often, sites like this act as a shoulder to cry on, or a chance to let go of bottled up feelings that once released can make a vast difference to that persons outlook on life.

I don't personally have a problem with any of the boarders responsible for the 'look at me/woe is me' threads purely because everyone, myself included has been at that stage at some point in their life, even if they've forgotten it or choose to deny it. We are all outsiders in some way.

Noah

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Website and Forum / Re: Wax on-topic, wax off-topic...
« on: 10 February, 2005, 05:46:25 pm »
I can't discuss this here. I'll need a seperate board.

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Off Topic / Re: who are ya
« on: 10 February, 2005, 12:15:33 am »
I'm Noah, and I'm that infrequent around here that I'm not even going to finish this sente

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Off Topic / Re: Cocteau Twins reform!............
« on: 10 February, 2005, 05:48:22 pm »
It's always an Ark lark for me.

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Off Topic / Re: I successfully asked a girl ou...
« on: 10 February, 2005, 12:44:54 am »
Thanks to my infrequent visits, I missed all this emotional drama, which from the sound of it was a blessing ;)

I'd also guess that it probably wouldn't be a good idea to say my rare appearances are due to my very lovely lady friends keeping me occupied. Oops!

Anyway, here's my helpful advice:

Walk down the street or go to a pub and check out the couples. You'll be surprised at how many stunning women are paired with ugly men. The reason? Insecurity? Sense of humour? Confidence? Personality? Who the fook knows? All that matters is that if they can do it then a good-looking chap like yourself shouldn't have a problem.

That's all. The rest is up to you. Have fun and be brave.

Noah (more pretty than handsome)

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General / Re: I'm new here
« on: 17 December, 2004, 08:25:42 pm »
Welcome aboard John/Judderman.

I'm Noah and I'm probably one of the most infrequent boarders around here. I'd like to say that's down to my hectic social life...so I will.

Regarding the site, enjoy but don't annoy would be the best advice I can give you. See you and everyone else as and when.

Noah Morningstar Angel

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Off Topic / Re: Small scary
« on: 17 December, 2004, 08:42:41 pm »
'The audience who saw the fall during the day have been given a full refund.'

I would have refused the refund whilst wiping tears of mirth from my eyes and shouting ENCORE!. In fact I'd have paid double to have seen it. Gratuitous injuries, that's what I want to see when I go to a pantomime involving F-List 'salabrities'. Now if only I could get Jim Davidson up a FORTY foot beanstalk...

'Tis the season to be jolly, but at someone else's expense ;)

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General / Noah who?
« on: 27 November, 2004, 09:38:17 pm »
Hello again to anyone who remembers me and to all those who've dared to forget me! ;)

I've recently returned to the welcoming shores of 2000adonline.com after my voyages to find land resulted in various mishaps and general tomfoolery.

A minor problem occurred with the realisation that it was perhaps not such a good idea to bring a pair of Wirrn on to my Ark.

Luckily my time spent on this site had prepared me for battle with hive-minds and I was able to prevent the assimilation of most of the livestock and crew (We lost the Dragons and Thora Hirds) by dividing the swarms opinion over something trivial thus causing the internal dynamic of their society to collapse, leaving them to battle amongst themselves*.

We thought things were looking up after landing on Arrarat but we discovered it to be have been over run by Krool soldiers. Luckily we had Jim Davidson on board and as you know there is nothing the Krool fear more than... Wait for it... "Bad Company". No? Oh well. Please yourselves.

Anyway, a *VERY* sincere apology to Al Says Pop for not getting in touch and thanking him for the fantastic bundle of comics he gave me as a prize for his William Dozier Dredd competition. They were extremely appreciated. Even if it's torturing me as to how some of the stories turned out! Thank you Al. You are a star.

Dudley, I never got the spare Placebo poster mag you said you'd send me. I managed to pick up a copy with my Metal Hammer though. Upon reading it I'm glad I never received it off you though cos I might have asumed it was hate mail! Yep, not since "Judge Dredd Lawman of the Future" have I been so insulted by a comic strip. Well, there was that time I bought Digital Justice...

Oh well. I'm sort of back now, although on an infrequent basis. I hope it's still a fun and welcoming place to be and I hope the familiar faces haven't become cynical and jaded old buggers. PVS excluded of course. ;)

Cheers mateys,

Noah Morningstar Angel



*It's good natured observational humour. Not an attack on anyone so don't have a go at me!

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General / Re: Happy Birthday Nat
« on: 08 September, 2004, 04:22:45 am »
Happy day of your birth Nat. Here you go...



I'm not sure what happened to The Birthday Party tho' (hyuk, hyuk!)

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