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Messages - Steven Denton

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General / Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
« on: 12 July, 2018, 08:05:21 pm »
I’m slightly torn on this because the idea that franchising strips doesn’t work for 2000ad is pretty shaky. all Dredd world strips are a franchise and that seems to work out pretty well. It’s not that surprising that you have to go back 30 years to find solid gold classics because truely outstanding strips don’t come along all that often. A strips legend grows with time to legendary strips are more or less always going to be from decades past. Aside from Dredd 2000ad hasn’t routinely farmed strips out to replacement/alternative writers so examples are always going to be thin on the ground. Some of the strips that were rebooted in the late 80’s and 90’s were given to terrible writers, Millar and Flisher’s original work was just as balls awful as their work on company IP.

Robohunter I enjoyed originally. Lovely art, entertaining enough scripts, but nothing that really made that big an impression on me. I don’t think of it as a classic, levels of attachment may vary. The Mark Millar reboot is objectively awful (still nice art though) but the Peter Hogan run (although short) was probably my favourite. (The art quality rarely dips in 2000ad does it? That run have some simply stunning artwork) Give a property to a bad writer and you are going to get a bad strip.

So I disagree that ‘franchises’ produce worse strips.

But I don’t really want to see IP flogged to death for decades either. There is something to be said for new ideas and constantly moving forward. Superhero comics are stuck on an infinite loop and it would be a real shame to see that happen to 2000ad. Funny as it would be to see the outrage a new book of Zenith by a new writer I wouldn’t actually be interested in reading it.




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General / Re: 2000 AD Art Stars Summer 2018 - Judge Dredd
« on: 12 July, 2018, 09:33:16 am »
Lots more great work!

Chris Askham is always quality! 

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Books & Comics / Re: The Zarjaz, Dogbreath & FQP comics thread
« on: 12 July, 2018, 09:32:19 am »
Next time I'll either use a thinner line at the same scale or the same line at a larger scale and see what the results are like. I need to tidy up my linking a bit as well.

The next strip I have out for FQP is in Dogbreath and was digitally inked, it has a smoother look but digital has always ended up as a bit of a rabbit hole for me. it starts fine but before long I end up working to a massively wasteful and over elaborate process.

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Books & Comics / Re: The Zarjaz, Dogbreath & FQP comics thread
« on: 11 July, 2018, 11:46:10 am »
https://cool-stuff-you-will-like.blogspot.com/2018/07/zarjaz-issue-31-review.html

My art was produced at A4 with a relatively thick line and high contrast in an attempt to make it more readable at A5. Pages I have produce A3 and with thinner lines and/or hatching I have found disappointing once printed. I do think that I need to tidy up my inking for this approach to work as I'm naturally a scratchy and messy artist. There is also too much detail in some of the frames for the approach I was using. Hopefully it's readable enough but it could do with being cleaner (which my next strip for Dogbreath is)

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General / Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
« on: 11 July, 2018, 10:48:50 am »
I like a lot of stories written by people other than the original creators of strips but I do think the original creators deserve recognition and compensation and I think Mills has a point about the creators wishes about other writers working on their strips being respected. I also think that there is a good argument that rights were sold too cheaply because the system demanded it in the past. creators had no choice other than to sell their entire stake in something and have no guarantee of a credit if they wanted to work in UK comics up until the late 1970's Rebellion Bought the IP, they can respect Mills wishes or not as a gentleman's agreement, the only way to guarantee the creators rights is to transfer some ownership back to them. If they were to sell their IP there is no guarantee that any subsequent owner would uphold the same agreement. If the agreements were part of the sale than the IP would be worth less then if the new IP holder was free to act however they whished.

Characters created for someone else's strip or a corporate strip are a more complicated issue. The originator is already working within someone else's sand box so the ideas can only ever be so original, and if no one else can use them in a shared universe there probably isn't a compelling reason to let them be created in the first place. Dredd had a bit of an issue (also an issue with Dredd and Anderson) where different writers tell complex and far reaching stories that have absolutely no effect on each other, it seems at times like they exist in small unconnected bubble universes within the comic. 

For a real mess though, I present to you; Friday. Friday is a re-boot of Rogue Trooper Gerry Finley-Day and Dave Gibbons created RT but Gibbons and Will Simpson created Friday, but Friday is basically Rogue so was he actually created by Finley-Day Gibbons & Simpson? Maybe not. Gibbons IIRC made Friday how he thought RT should be, essential expunging Finley-Days input so maybe it is just Gibbons and Simpson. Friday then becomes Tor Cyan under Kev Walker and John Tomlinson... but does that make Tor created by Finley-Day Gibbons Walker and Tomlinson?

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I like Kola Kommandos. It's Anthony Williams best period artistically, its full of ideas, quirky characters and action. (I also like Dry Run and the 90's Mean Arena so my taste may not be representative)


Was that around the same time as his PJ Maybe story?  Liked his art in that.  He seemed to be a good artist served up not-particularly engaging stories.

he did the PJ Maybe story where Dredd punches him in the face at the end (for being 18) and the Necropolis PJ Maybe story a bit earlier I think. same style but it was more polished by Kola Kommandos. 

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Creative Common / Re: Friday Fixup
« on: 30 June, 2018, 11:16:51 am »
Fantastic food for thought (brain pretzels?) as always! 

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Creative Common / Re: Rogue Trooper (and related G.I's) Fanzine
« on: 29 June, 2018, 02:31:18 pm »
There are the sample scripts https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=27411.0 That are pretty good practice. they have been done by dozens of artist.

Feedback is probably quite important. one of the advantages of working on a live script for a small press anthology is you get an editor (in the case of the Rogue fanzine me, with FQP bolt) and that artist editor relationship is invaluable.

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I like Kola Kommandos. It's Anthony Williams best period artistically, its full of ideas, quirky characters and action. (I also like Dry Run and the 90's Mean Arena so my taste may not be representative)

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Creative Common / Re: Rogue Trooper (and related G.I's) Fanzine
« on: 29 June, 2018, 12:43:38 pm »
The arm's are a bit long but you can get away with it. proportions only have to be dead on if you have a dead on style, exaggeration for effect/dynamism is often better than photorealism for energy. 

Bolt is right, if you put the body and upper thy in the line would run pretty much exactly along the line of the hose and smoke.

Sequentials would definitely help. my advice would be start with something short (no more than 4 pages) and just get it done. the first rule of drawing is done not finished, art is never finished but you have to get used to calling it done.

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Creative Common / Re: Rogue Trooper (and related G.I's) Fanzine
« on: 29 June, 2018, 10:57:42 am »
it's good!

constructive criticism wise, I think you loose the torso and chest. looking at the pose there should be more of Tor on the right hand side of the picture.

I could tell exactly what was going on though which is the most important thing with narrative art

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Creative Common / Re: Friday Fixup
« on: 26 June, 2018, 01:33:09 pm »
PJ gives good advice! if I was working on any art right now I would definitely ask PJ for advice.

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Off Topic / Re: Reading all of my old posts
« on: 26 June, 2018, 10:57:56 am »
My take away is I need to post on things I agree with whilst happy as well as things I disagree with whilst in a bad mood or risk coming across as a lot angrier than I actually am*

I read that BBC article too and I remember reading one much like it on a tech website a few months ago, that and boredom inspired my read through . Our internet history is a time capsule more real and more emotionally raw than any diary could be. 

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Off Topic / Re: Reading all of my old posts
« on: 25 June, 2018, 07:22:50 pm »
Always the full half hour and no just contradicting what I say!

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Off Topic / Reading all of my old posts
« on: 25 June, 2018, 04:37:50 pm »
I've been reading all of my old posts (helpfully organised in my profile) and it's a strange mixture of complimenting peoples work, posting art, and aggressively arguing about random things. It's quite surprising if not terribly insightful looking at everything I have ever posted here in isolation.

I need to either calm down the arguments or increase the hostility in the compliments to bring some kind of consistency.


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