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Website and Forum / Re: How to make a healthy vibrant forum?
« on: Today at 07:35:14 am »
Perhaps the number of likes minus the number of dislikes would be an interesting thing to show!

On the BBC website they often have a comment section (called Have Your Say) after stories and you can rate comments by effectively liking or disliking them. Interestingly the highest rated comments (the ones with the most likes) and the lowest rated comments (the ones with the most dislikes) are often the same ones (at least in the sports / football sections).

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General / Re: Would the Megazine be better off with fewer strips?
« on: 23 August, 2019, 09:59:26 pm »
I think part of the problem is that the current bunch of strips just aren’t very... memorable.

Sometimes I think I need to catch on the Meg, get halfway through a story, then realise I already read it.

Could be my aging brain, but on the other hand I had no problem following ‘Lawless’ every month.

Absolutely nailed it.

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Website and Forum / Re: How to make a healthy vibrant forum?
« on: 22 August, 2019, 11:21:28 pm »
This is still my favourite website, but it definitely seems to have a lot less traffic than it did when I first joined a few years ago. Then there seemed to be multiple genuinely interesting threads with regular comments throughout any given day. Now there seem to be fewer such threads and it can be days between replies, which is a real shame.

I have joined a number of the Facebook groups and quite like a couple of them in particular. As others have said there are some comments made to the effect that “I haven’t read the Prog in decades and it’s rubbish now” but there are also a lot of people who comment that genuinely like the Prog and some in particular who are unbelievably knowledgeable. One of the comments above in this thread was about a creator (Simon Fraser) asking for details about what a Lawgiver looks like and getting answers here, which is great. Almost the exact same thing happened on one of the Facebook groups last month - Dave Kendall asked about a rolling tank and got his answers including what story it was from and indeed pictures within minutes.

There is one person in particular who seems to be a walking encyclopaedia of all things 2000AD for whom no question is too obscure and he backs his answers up with pictures, usually within minutes.

There are however some comments made in the Facebook groups about this Forum that paint it in a negative light. As Colin has said, I also don’t get that. Yes there has been the odd spat, but I’m sure that happens on Facebook too. Personally I don’t like comments that criticise other Forums or groups - its really unhelpful IMO (both ways around).

I really like the structure of the Forum. I don’t find it hard to navigate at all and just use the last post date as a guide to where new comments have been made. I also check into my favourite threads regularly just in case. I never use the the most recently updated topics link but can see how others would find that helpful.The Forum structure, as others have said, really lends it self to ongoing persistent threads in a way Facebook groups just don’t - they are much more a topic of the day and in the groups I use, there tend to be a lot of replies in a short period of time (a few hours) and then it is pretty much done. Very rarely does anything last more than a few days. That is a Facebook thing, not a 2000AD thing (I am in other non 2000AD groups and they work the same way). I guess that lack of persistence encourages replies in a short space of time, because it you don’t reply, you will have missed the boat.

Basically I use both Facebook and the Forum now and there should be room for both. One isn’t better than the other, they are different. But both seem to have a relatively small hard core who do most of the posting (certainly of those that post frequently).

To pick up on the comment on the like button - I hardly ever use it on “normal” Facebook with regard to my friends posts, but I do think it is very useful in groups and helps avoid spats: someone might comment on your post giving a completely different view but you can see that they have already liked your post which helps you to see its is just that - a different perspective. Whereas here, there have at times been some misunderstandings (which is a bit of a shame).

I am not sure the lack of Rebellion input is the key reason for the Forum dwindling. For me it’s more that we as a collective just aren’t posting as frequently as we used to, and yes there have been people who have left and gone to Facebook, but there are still enough members that a vibrant set of conversations should be possible. I would be sorry to see the Forum end and we love it to get back to what it was.

I guess it’s up to us to get posting

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Other Reviews / Re: The Vigilant Legacy.
« on: 21 August, 2019, 12:49:34 pm »
I think the frequency critisim is valid, but taking into account the scale of what has been achieved, a new comic featuring featuring classic Fleetway characters on the newsagents shelves is remarkable. Hopefully sales will be enough to increase the frequency.

Think of it more as an appeal to see this more frequently- I would like to support it by buying it and hope it does well.

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Other Reviews / The Vigilant Legacy.
« on: 18 August, 2019, 10:28:24 am »
Surprised there is no review thread for this yet(?).

This follows on where it left off last year for more of the same. The art by Simon Coleby is really good and suits it very well.

The additional Dr Sin tale really adds to the intrigue and there are some nice background pieces in the back. Loved the bit about Mary’s watch too.

The main problem for me is this is currently being done at yearly intervals. At that rate I’m guessing it will be cancelled before it completes which will be a real shame. It needs to be at least quarterly IMO.

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General / Re: It Shoulda Ended with...
« on: 16 August, 2019, 10:55:21 pm »
Harry Potter should have ended with Deathly Hallows.
  The appeal of Harry Potter was and is a perpetual mystery to me.  There was absolutely nothing original in it, just a bizarre melange of Blyton's Mallory Towers and pretty much every fantasy trope ever written.  The characters ranged from the banal to the two dimensional, the prose was only a minor step above Mills and Boon.  I know I'm in the minority on this and millions of people would disagree (hell, some would even take me out in the streets and stone me for such heresy) but the only thing the films had over the books is that they had better pictures.

I am currently reading the Harry Potter books (which I like) to my son. We also read and listen to a lot of Roald Dahl. The difference in the language is striking to me. Dahl’s is like the finest quality chocolate melting in your mouth, where as JK Rowling’s language just isn’t and indeed doesn’t always seem grammatically correct. She is also, oddly to me, very fond of the word “dully” as in “Harry said dully”.

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General / Re: It Shoulda Ended with...
« on: 16 August, 2019, 01:28:56 pm »
Have to agree with the comment saying Iron Maiden should never stop.

You could say they went through a dodgy patch for 12 years after the master piece was that was 7th Son of a 7th Son, but since 2000 the quality they have maintained is truly remarkable. A Brave New World, Dance of Death, A Matter of Life and Death, The Final Frontier and the Book of Souls are every bit as good as their 80s classics.

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Prog / Re: Prog 2144 War Crimes and Retribution
« on: 15 August, 2019, 02:02:38 am »
Wasn't that confusion largely the point? We experienced it alongside the characters.

Not sure about that. There comes a point where unclear story telling gets in the way and makes reading stuff not enjoyable. And for me we have had that in spades over the last few weeks with Anderson and Indigo Prime. It’s funny how stories by Dan Abnett never suffer from being unclear. It’s really not a virtue.

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General / Re: Does 2000 AD need another 'Judge Dredd'?
« on: 08 August, 2019, 09:47:47 pm »
Likewise. My copy arrived yesterday, and I dug out its predecessor. I’m half tempted to grab the special that the universe originated in too.

What special is that?

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General / Re: Does 2000 AD need another 'Judge Dredd'?
« on: 08 August, 2019, 12:25:45 pm »
In a sense, this is why I wonder about things like The Vigilant. It’s almost comical to see my two issues stating August 2018 and August 2019 as the dates. My old brain has enough of a hard time remembering Meg stories month to month, let alone when there’s a year-long gap.

Totally. My plan is to re-read the first one then read the new one. But I shouldn’t have to  :|

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General / Re: Does 2000 AD need another 'Judge Dredd'?
« on: 08 August, 2019, 07:27:49 am »
I’m keen on the idea of having strips with long runs or at least minimising the length of time between series. When you get long gaps it is hard to keep up with what is going on. It should not be necessary to dig out the back Progs to follow what is going on - it’s meant to be fun after all. I have seen comments previously saying that is due to the availability of creators but surely there is an element of creators losing interest- I can think of at least one writer who has multiple uncompleted series- why not just finished each one before moving on to the next?

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General / Re: how to do a prog slog
« on: 04 August, 2019, 01:34:50 pm »
Just loved those Starlord Robusters stories. The artists don’t seem to get the recognition they deserve 40 years later, especially Carlos Pino. Apart from Ian Kennedy obviously.

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Prog / Re: Prog 2143 - The End
« on: 04 August, 2019, 11:04:13 am »
Maybe I’m being thick but what is the deal with Harry’s grand kids not having aged?

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Prog / Re: Prog 2142 - Major Malfunction
« on: 01 August, 2019, 06:46:52 pm »
along with John Wagner , Pat Mills and Michael Carroll ,
Gordon Rennie is the best writer 2000AD has in the Prog .

Dan Abnett?

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Prog / Re: Prog 2142 - Major Malfunction
« on: 31 July, 2019, 08:08:42 am »
Dredd is fantastic both in terms of story and art. Good to see consequences from the Small House, even if other writers glossed over it (cough - Wagner. :lol:). Weston continues his best Bolland impression and I have to say he is the best at it (Tom Foster not withstanding).

Indigo Prime. I’m so glad this is the last ever series. I know a lot of people like it, but sorry not for me. I like to have some clue as to what is going on week to week.

Anderson. Just shows how great a writer Alan Grant was: good stories well told.

Thistlebone. Great, atmospheric story and great art. Was half expecting a Slaine/ Horned God/Slough Geg cross over.

Absalom. Sorry but I’m finding this a very disappointing final series. Not sure how they will wrap everything up in the last episode, but I’m absolutely not expecting a happy ending.

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