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General / Re: Drokk!! - a rival to SpaceSpinner 2000??
« on: 14 February, 2019, 10:04:10 pm »
That was a great listen. Don't necessarily agree with everything said - but then that's half the fun. The Eisner comparison is pretty shallow at this stage and its something that's better served later in the series. I also think they sometimes over look at things in a way that if you say enough things will stick BUT they are clearly knowledgable and thoughtful and definately hit more than they miss.

Great stuff and I'm really looking forward to how this will develop. Once a month may feel like a long wait since we're been treated so well by Conrad and Fox but well worth it.

Film & TV / Re: Last movie watched...
« on: 13 February, 2019, 10:11:26 pm »
I have a real soft spot for high school films and I hadn’t seen this one since the 90s.
It’s much funnier than I remember but the satire is pretty dark. I wonder how modern audiences would react to its theme of teen murder and social justice. I can see why they never show it on TV!
Definitely worth a watch. Winona Ryder and Christian Slater both give good performances – as do the Heathers who are all absolutely vile.

I was just thinking the other day I must get around to watching this again. One of my favourite filsm back in the day but haven't seen it in years. Good to hear it holds up.

So took a detour on my Apes trip to make good on this and very glad I did I enjoyed it. Sure its dated in some ways but in others remains entirely timeless and its funny as all hell as well as being a wonderfully sharp satire.

The only problem I think I'd conflated its soundtrack with 'Pump Up the Volume'. Which isn't a problem in itself as I think the actual soundtrack was perfect for this film BUT means I now want to check out that movie as well and I'm not sure that will hold up!

General / Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
« on: 11 February, 2019, 08:57:44 pm »
Space Spinner 2000 has reached Livin’ on a prayer?

I thought we'd only be about...

...we'd be half way there...

...at most

Film & TV / Re: Last movie watched...
« on: 11 February, 2019, 01:53:19 pm »
As I mentioned elsewhere I recently picked up all the Apes movies (well I'm not counting Tim Burton's effort) for about £21 the other day and so I'm happily working my way through them in production order.

I've always loved Planet of the Apes (1968) and its a film that really stands up to repeated viewing, even if Chuckie H's performance is very overstated at times, he still makes Taylor if not likable entirely engaging and the Apes are all top notch. The satire is sharp and well placed. Its the classic I always think it is.

What struck me more was the differences from the first film to its sequel 'Beneath the Planet of the Apes'. Now I want to say before I go any further that I enjoyed BtPotA a lot more than I remember doing in the past with this viewing. Its full of lovely kinetic nonsense and while the satire isn't as sharp, possibly a bit to on the nose (?) its a fun action romp, if completely in the shadow of its predecessor.

What struck me most however was while PotA (1968) feels like a movie parible, but feels like a big screen production BtPotA I enjoy on the level of a decent Doctor Who story. It just doesn't feel like a movie. I know budgets had already begun to diminish, but its not that, I think it still holds up visually pretty well given its age and all, rather the way the story feels a lot less tight than the original.

Having recently read another book about the making of the movies I'm reminded of the tricky time they seemed to have finding a story for the sequel that would work. Now it not as if PotA (1968) didn't have its own share of pre-production struggles but the core concept and story, however departed from Boulle's book, is so fantastic that however many interations it went through it still holds onto those tight core ideas so well. BtPotA feels like a story looking for a reason to be. Or rather the type of Doctor Who 6 parter that really should have stayed a 4 parter. It feels stretched and slightly directionless at time. I'm not sure if it has too much, or too little going on with it but the story doesn't quite hold.

Still enjoyed both and can't wait for the next which I've always held as my favourite, though I don't know if that will hold as it been a long time since I saw it last.

Film & TV / Re: Last movie watched...
« on: 11 February, 2019, 12:55:55 pm »
I have a real soft spot for high school films and I hadn’t seen this one since the 90s.
It’s much funnier than I remember but the satire is pretty dark. I wonder how modern audiences would react to its theme of teen murder and social justice. I can see why they never show it on TV!
Definitely worth a watch. Winona Ryder and Christian Slater both give good performances – as do the Heathers who are all absolutely vile.

I was just thinking the other day I must get around to watching this again. One of my favourite filsm back in the day but haven't seen it in years. Good to hear it holds up.

General / Re: 2000AD Original Art Thread
« on: 11 February, 2019, 12:54:40 pm »
Hi guys, just wondering if anyone might know how to contact Colin McNeil about buying a page from him? It’s a very recent page so I’m hoping he still has it.



Now before you do anything rash I hope this isn't one of the three pages I've been stirring at thinking ...

"As soon as I shift some comics to raise funds I'll be contacting that there Colin MacNeil."

as there have been some simply glorious pages in the last three weeks. Good luck picking up what you are after I know a few folks here have contact with Colin so fingers crossed.

« on: 10 February, 2019, 07:48:59 pm »
Evan's Rogue is a winner if ever I seen one!

Yep that is wonderful - would love to see this rewarded with a trip to the Prog.

Other Reviews / Re: The completely self absorbed 2000ad re-read thread
« on: 10 February, 2019, 08:35:49 am »
The art of telling a story

Bloomin' heck there's really no messing about in 1998 is there. No sooner has the year begun and we're at our first wrap up Prog by the end of February. Given the amount I've got to read in this 'batch of comics' (I refer the loyal reader to the beginning of this thread were I try to explain how I organise my comic reading and how this Prog Slog fits into that) I'm going to take this unexpected opportunity to read the first half of GMozz's JLA run... I digress ...

I actually came here to discuss a couple of things or three.

Firstly I really want to like Durham Red - Scarlet Cantos but Mark Harrison's art really does have storytelling issues alas.

Speaking of artistic issues there's a wonderful Dredd serial in the last few Progs in 'Missing' in which Dredd is kidnapped and sold on to a collector of the world's finest examples of humankind in any given field. In telling the tale we actually spend the first half the story wondering where the heck Dredd is and the suggestion is pushed that he's dead. I wish Wagner had played with this a bit longer as I think it had quite the potential. Still the second half of six resolving the whole thing is fun.

Alas Lee Sullivan's art on the story isn't for me and also has its storytelling problems all be in a very different way to Mark Harrison. While Harrison's hyper-realised glarefest in these issues just simply obsures what's going on with his obsession with detail and exploding lighting at the expense of clarity. In the case of Sullivan's much more traditional style he just makes a few odd choices' and just don't give the reader the elements in place or in relationship to each other in a panel they really need. Both have issues and while Harrison's art is immediately more exciting than Sullivan's its problems are bigger and Sullivan's slightly ungrippng and inelegant style works a little better. Neither is great, but they present an interesting comparison as to when art doesn't work.

Should of course note that these days Mark Harrison has really fine tuned his art and makes far less mistakes than he did in these days... though he still makes them. Alas not seen Lee Sullivan's work for some time so not sure how he's developed.

Finally Prog 1083 suggests that we're at the end of Vector 13 ... please say its so. I've whined before about how the construct that forms Vector 13's way into story limits it and kills much of the ability to engage the reader and the storys more often that not become cold and lack humanity. I know I've gone on about this before but I return to it simply to make clear that its not just artists that can damage a story by poor telling. The very nature of the strip can do that just fine by itself.

In my head this strip lasted longer than this... maybe it just felt so... my none peaking methodology on this slog means I can't confirm if the series is done, but I hope Tharg isn't teasing me!

Books & Comics / Re: Whats everyone reading?
« on: 10 February, 2019, 07:14:09 am »
Enjoy Mage Hero Denied - its bloomin' superb.

Creative Common / Re: Torquemada cosplay
« on: 10 February, 2019, 07:07:45 am »
That's the stuff of dreams... or nightmares. Seen Other Steve's Deathlok but this tops even that!

Prog / Re: Prog 2118 - Enemies of the State
« on: 10 February, 2019, 07:03:12 am »
Nice Proggae Tharg, nice Proggage. There's a useful shift from last time and rather than go in reading order I'll go bottom to top to see if we can find the difference.

So last weeks weakest strip was the 3riller and here its Skipperty. Now I actively didn't like the 3riller and Skippster just struggles to engage me and this weak felt particularly light but still didn't really offend. So that's a plus.

Last weeks 4th ranked was the afore mentioned Skipperty and this week Jaegir and here we see the biggest positive difference. See Skipesque is just muh which Jaegir is bloomin' good. Really enjoyed this and if the fourth ranked strip is this sharp you know you are in good shape.

The middle rank goes to Grey Area replacing last weeks excellent Jaegir. Both where superb openers and so this is the first time we see parity between this weeks and last. Love Jaegir last week love Grey Area his simple opening pulling you in and placing the conflicit we about to the enter front and centre, bringing me back up to speed and engaging me straight away. Wonderful.

So the top two and this of course is where the ability to compare falls apart as both as soooo good BUT I can say both improve, though you'd have doubted that was possible. Dredd - well we may have been spoiled by the Thrillmail BUT I think it was a bluff, showing us what we thought was the episode's play but really was an incredible slight of hand as Wagner had an even bigger play to hit us with. Ohhh that John Wagner he's such a trickster... such a genius trickster. Bloomin' heck I did not see that coming but man it was handled quite brilliantly! Just genius.

Speaking of genius thrill of the week has to be Brink right if only to celebrate the fact that it ends and while Dabnett seemed to suggest that Brink would be finished with this book the end, which provides so much oversight, yet does so in the typically engaging and lowkey way, surely sets up more to come? The end was just so satisfying. The series has been gen ius beginning to end and can't wait to see what happened next.

This and a Thrills of the Future promising us more Warren Pleece call me a happy bunny. Two stone wall classics, two great thrill and one muh in a Prog is a decent return it say the least in my book!

Books & Comics / Re: Calvin and Hobbes and Tharg's Droids
« on: 08 February, 2019, 06:46:23 am »
Yeah its such a rewarding experience and you should defininately make the effort jrdd. Astonishing funny, smart and has some of the greatest comic art ever.

Other Reviews / Re: The completely self absorbed 2000ad re-read thread
« on: 08 February, 2019, 06:44:42 am »
Short and snappy vs. long a flabby

So as we hit 1998... bloody hell how did we get to 1998... anyway we hit 1998 and have one week tp wrap all the current stuff up for the special Dredd long 1077. So we get an interestingly contrasted couple of Progs.

In 1076 you get a bunch of one offs and a terrible cover. The cover is bad as its a direct panel lift from the Anderson story, the one off 'Danse Macabre', which might be a decent story but I'm struggling to tell as I really don't get on with the art by Angel Unzueta at all. So the cover image is a heavily enlarged image with the tag line '"Anderson is HOT!" ... ouch.

Dredd is the only ongoing stuff finishing a fun robot Frankenstein love tale. Aside from that a Vector 13, yawn and two SInister Dexters which works well to showcase the diversity of the strip, even if one has some pretty shocking art by Clint Langley which I just find harsh on the eye. The other has some lovely Alex Ronald art, showing that he's become the artist he always promised to be, with this inked style I actually prefer to his glorious 'painted' stuff these days.

So yeah the first prog of 1998 is a curious beast that almost shows how 2000ad can pack a real punch with sharp, short thrills... alas it doesn't quite make it.

So in complete contrast Prog 1077 goes to the other extreme with a Prog long Dredd by Wagner and Jason Brashill, well 24 page story with filler advertising what in the year to come from Tharg.

Its an interesting story as we reach 2020 - much to everyones surprise I'd guess - and realise that was the year of Feyy's prophecy of a great doom befalling the Meg City one. And so it seem to come as Dredd sees the Judge Child who transforms into The Mutant and he needs Anderson to get to the bottom of it.

The thing is this story feels unnecessary as we're dealt with this a number of times and the threat has been abandoned, nuked and then time travelled out of existance already in various stories over the years. However Wagner has a neat trick up his sleeve that acknowledges that then gives the story valid reason to exist.

The other problem is the art, I frankly hate it. Jason Brashill isn't my favourite artist, so of the time and his pen and ink work especially exposes him to be style over substance. Here its this curious mix of gritty with his normal clean smooth hyper-realised lines. It just looks odd and I think this is largely as he's just a bad fit for the horror elements this story tries to return to and in trying to modify his art style to move towards this he just makes this odd mis-match that fails on both counts. The result is it sucks a lot of the potential horror out of the story was Anderson's over large cartoon eye emphasize...

...so yeah two very different Progs and they make an interesting contrast. Alas as we are still firmly in recovery here neither is as successful as it might be and neither a particular success.

So to anwser the title "Short and snappy vs. long a flabby" alas at this stage it a rather frustrating 1 : 1 draw and I'm not sure we get the replay I'd be interested to see these days!

Other Reviews / Re: Last Comic Read
« on: 07 February, 2019, 12:52:04 pm »
Let's keep this thread going, so I'll put this here rather than the 'What's everyone reading' thread.

Just read the first 17 issues of Black Science by Rick Remender and Matteo Scalera. I've actually picked up the first 18 issues from various Image sales of Humble Bundle or whatever but 1-17 seem to tell one story - all be it with a mighty cliffhanger to pull you back for what happens next - so stopped there.

Unlike so many other stories I ranted about last time this one seems to have found the audience it deserves and is still going strong but these 17 issues tell the tale of a largely duplicitous bound of 'dimensionauts' cast out and lost hoping between dimensions and trying to survive while the search for what they call home. The issue is what that home and family is to them... well that and various members of the troupe keep dieing! This grim death toll means the series has that genuine tension and fear for the characters, a bit like The Walking Dead. And just as you assume certain characters are safe the story demands otherwise - even if its a bluff... or is it...

Anyway it gripping stuff helped by great, kinetic art. Even if Matteo Scalera does rather do the pointy nose thing that seems so in vogue in comic are these days... what is it with the sharp pointy noses... a minor point.

So yeah I'll defo be picking the rest of the issues of this up as the next Image sale comes around. Enjoyed it so much might even track down the physical copies. Great sci-fi action adventure with strong, characters and geniune emotional tension.

General / Re: Drokk!! - a rival to SpaceSpinner 2000??
« on: 07 February, 2019, 07:48:14 am »
Had a prod around the Podcast advertising this and they certainly seem to have the relaxed chit chatty relationship that makes these things work (well as long as you don't take it too far and forget folks are there to listen about comics and related stuff and not middle aged men belly aching as some podcasts seem to forget!). Be really interesting to see how they handle the amount of content and they seem to have a good grip on that.

Will defo check this out, thanks for the heads up.

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