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General / Re: Nominations 'Villains' - Ultimate not Dredd Tourney
« on: 12 July, 2020, 12:20:20 PM »
Rogue judges: Barry Kurten

That's a good choice, I concur.

General / Re: Nominations 'Villains' - Ultimate not Dredd Tourney
« on: 12 July, 2020, 12:07:10 PM »
Lulu Romanov. She's one of my favs and given she joined Dante in the Rebellion at the end defo sided with the 'goodies'.

Lulu's a bit like Thrax - she's a completely amoral murderer - except she actively does go against Dante at points, even though she sides with him at the end. But Thrax has nicer eyelashes.

General / Re: Nominations 'Heroes' - Ultimate not Dredd Tourney
« on: 12 July, 2020, 12:04:53 PM »
Another vote for Giant (Jnr.) and a nomination for Chief Judge Hilda Margaret McGruder.

General / Re: Nominations 'Heroes' - Ultimate not Dredd Tourney
« on: 12 July, 2020, 09:35:42 AM »

Danny Franks - Soldiers
Sheeva - Soldiers
De Racine - Soldiers
Revere - Rebels
Fervent and Lobe - Rebels
Winwood and Cord - Agents
Fludd - Rebels or maybe Traveller
Wulf Sternhammer - Strontium Dogs

General / Re: Nominations 'Villains' - Ultimate not Dredd Tourney
« on: 12 July, 2020, 09:34:50 AM »
In my mind Thrax sits in the heroes side, in that he's an absolute git but fights on the side of the angels (ahem!) in story terms at least.

You're right that he's always on the side of Bad Company as a whole - even when he deserts, he comes straight back. But he's also a cold-blooded murderer who kills one of the raws for annoying him. I've always said his function the story is as yardstick for Danny - how Danny reacts to him shows how 'bad' Danny has become.

General / Re: Nominations 'Villains' - Ultimate not Dredd Tourney
« on: 12 July, 2020, 09:18:01 AM »

Protoid - I'd put him under Scoundrels and Tricksters
Thrax - Or does he belong in the other list? Here under Military and Government, there under Soldiers.
Phobia and Nausea - joint entry under Dark Judges

General / Re: The Galaxy’s Greatest Top 20 Series - Tournament
« on: 11 July, 2020, 11:20:29 AM »
Similarly isn't The Dead Man effectively a Dredd strip but with a different banner stuck on it?

The funny thing is, I'd rate The Dead Man over virtually any Dredd strip - it's in my top 3 2000AD stories.

Website and Forum / Re: Spam, pornspam, and morespam
« on: 09 July, 2020, 10:38:16 AM »
...thanks to you Mods for wombling the forum!

I'm pretty sure there was a link to that. "See red-hot mods wombling the forum hard!"

I've reflected on the fact that I've recently seen Dabnett's work describe as 'Ultra, ultra, ultra competent' (I might misquote slightly)

I only used two ultras, not three. That'd be pushing it.

As I've said repeatedly, I think Abnett's very good at what he does. I go into any new Abnett strip with an open mind, ready to enjoy. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. I deny none of the man's technical ability - which to me would suggest a very high degree of competence. His ideas are perfectly decent.

I think that approach ends up a bit unintentionally patronising to Abnett. "We know you can't beat John Wagner, but if we tie his arm behind his back, you might last a bit longer." It heads off down a reductive rabbit hole: "How much can be taken away from Wagner till he's level with Abnett? Is Dan Abnett better than Balls Brothers?"

I’m perfectly happy Mills has come in second, and wouldn’t have been annoyed had he won; but there’s something nice in the win being more about the future of the comic than its past.

Abnett has been writing for 2000AD off and on for about 30 years, around 25 as a regular. He does a good job and if you want to call him the 'present' of 2000AD, that's fair enough. His work certainly epitomises the current incarnation of the comic - take that any way you want - but with such a long tenure, I'm not sure I'd call him the future.

As for the idea of Mills recycling - you hit a certain age, and your creative processes become more about refinement of your existing ideas than generating brand new ones. I don't think it's realistic to expect a man in his (very) early seventies to start a process of radical innovation now. He's innovated plenty in the past, far more than most! The fact that he has just created a whole swathe of brand-new properties for his creator-owned Space Warp title, many of which sound like they're full of potential, is impressive enough in its own right.

Kingdom is one I want to like more than I do - it does an awful lot right, and is the most traditionally 2000AD thing Abnett has ever written. Iconic, catchphrase-spouting, tough-guy lead with a great visual design, clear motivations and interesting origin - on paper, I should love it. But there's something a little bit decompressed about it - the average episode doesn't feel complete in its own right, in the way that, say, the episodes of a Gordon Rennie story invariably do.

The idea of Abnett having a greater variety of ideas than Mills - well, I'm not going to pretend I agree. I think Mills packs far more exciting ideas into each individual story. Maybe Abnett could be said to spread his out and explore them in a more measured way over separate strips?

I'd say Nemesis as a series presents a third way between the Scylla of destructive Khaos and the Charybdis of ultimate Order - that path is Purity's, and she rejects both as ultimately having nothing to offer humanity.

Looking at the reasons people gave for their votes, Abnett seemed to edge it primarily because he’s very, very consistent, and very, very prolific. Many voters seemed to count Pat’s less successful outings against him, as if writing Dinosty somehow made Nemesis less brilliant. Abnett, on the other hand, seldom writes anything that’s actively bad: the somniferous Brink, so beloved around these parts, is undoubtedly the polar opposite of what I want from comics, but it’s obviously not hackwork. Pat, on the other hand, is the human equivalent of a big, mad firework display, exploding across the sky but occasionally misfiring, letting off a damp squib, or setting your neighbours alight. If the price you pay for genius is the occasional Hellbringer or Demon Killer, then for me it’s worth it for the genuine Gods sired by The Godfather, be they Horned or Torquemada.

Thanks to Colin for managing the complexities of the tournament. I found the opening rounds the toughest, as they involved people whose work I had no strong opinions about - after that, I've got a pretty defined internal hierarchy of 2000AD writers, so whilst some of the rounds were frustrating - Smith vs Mills, Milligan vs Mills - I always knew which way I'd vote. The main thing I discovered from this tournament is just how highly I rate Summer Magic! If it'd been Alan McKenzie versus Abnett in the final, I'd definitely still have voted McKenzie.

General / Re: FINAL - Dan Abnett or Pat Mills - For the Godpleton Cup
« on: 02 July, 2020, 08:09:06 AM »
I'll talk more about what would have happened with a tie in a bit.

What would the world's biggest Sinister Dexter fan have done in the event of a tie? That's a tough one...

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