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Messages - Dark Jimbo

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Prog / Re: Prog 2083 - Fame in the fifth dimension
« on: 26 May, 2018, 11:36:04 pm »
My favourite bit might be the John Titor reference.

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Prog / Re: Prog 2083 - Fame in the fifth dimension
« on: 26 May, 2018, 10:22:48 pm »
... the kid with the baseball cap (is) surely an alt-verse Ash Ketchum and Pikachu...?

As Tomwe says, that's the kid from Flight Of The Navigator. You're not missing anything.

D'oh! Course it is.

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Prog / Re: Prog 2083 - Fame in the fifth dimension
« on: 26 May, 2018, 08:44:48 pm »
I'm also going for Bill Murray from Ground Hog day as he has some kinda ground hog on his shoulder... this one is a punt

If you mean the kid with the baseball cap, that's surely an alt-verse Ash Ketchum and Pikachu...? Puxatawney Phil is represented on one of the banners on't ceiling.

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Yes, fairly certain it's the same contents across all three books.

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 23 May, 2018, 04:31:46 pm »
it's hard to imagine any new readers who didn't quite see what the fuss was about with vol.1 not being won over this time!

The 2 modern volumes have both been fantastic but Vol 1 was a bit lacklustre I'm hoping 2 is going to be a different beast.

Aye, the big shame of not including the Starlord strips are that Galaxy Killers and Journey Into Hell are thrust forward as an introduction to the characters and set-up; and they aren't really very good at that, being off-kilter a-typical tales. It isn't really until Schiklegruber Grab that the strip starts to feel like 'proper' Strontium Dog, for my money...

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 22 May, 2018, 07:39:57 pm »
So volume 20 contains - Bad Boys Bust, Portrait of a Mutant, Gronk Affair, Kid Knee Caper and The Moses Incident. One hell of a line-up...!

Repro is generally excellent, although some of Moses Incident looks just a touch heavy with the blacks to me. Hard to know for certain without another edition to compare it to, though. Even so, it's hard to imagine any new readers who didn't quite see what the fuss was about with vol.1 not being won over this time!

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 22 May, 2018, 09:19:30 am »
The initial splash page of Hachette 1 is missing the text. Was this in the original progs? (Mine are boxed away upstairs, and Emmerdale is on).
Why do the Hachette volumes start by removing all the start of episode captions and logos and episode titles, but then later on start reprinting them?


The text was there in the prog, & first two GN editions. It was removed from the art for the previous reprint. There, it was printed on it's own on the page immediately before the initial splash.

Looks like whoever sent the files to Hachette didn't realise this had happened.

The 'missing' text is, perhaps, rendered a bit redundant by the 'Story so far' blurb just two pages earlier...

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Off Topic / Re: Threadjacking!
« on: 20 May, 2018, 09:46:08 am »
We live in a world where this conversation can happen, yet 2000ad sells fewer copies than What Caravan.

Quality, not quality!

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 18 May, 2018, 11:07:54 am »
Hi guys,

How important is robusters for the ABC warriors and if it needs to be read before.

What about the early Strontium dog that was not published by 2000ad (starlord) how crucial is it before starting the ultimate collection?

Strontium Dog... Not very crucial to have read the Starlord strips, no. You'll just miss the introduction of the Gronk - otherwise, there's nothing very continuity-troubling in those early stories.

Ro-Busters is a bit more important to understanding ABC Warriors, I'd say. Initially you only really have to know that between the first ABC adventure (Meknificent Seven) and the second (Black Hole) Hammerstein was, for a while, part of a disaster-solving squad of misfit second-hand robots where he met Ro-Jaws and Mek-Quake (who both later join the ABC Warriors).

Their dastardly boss in Ro-Busters was Howard Quartz, who becomes a major antagonist for the ABC Warriors later on, so the Ro-Busters history definitely gets more important. There's also a prologue/epilogue for the first ABC Warriors story that will make absolutely no sense to you if you haven't read at least some of Ro-Busters.

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 18 May, 2018, 10:27:21 am »
As I have all of Dante somewhere, spread across about four different formats (but thus difficult to assemble for a re-read), and money is tight yet again, I've been questioning my decision to pick up all the relevant UC volumes: not so after starting into Volume 3.  The pivot in the story that takes place either side of the wonderful Prog 2000 (v1.0) story is breathtaking, Fraser and Burns' art seem to simultaneously scale new heights and stay there, all the fun silly stuff suddenly feels like a necessary counterbalance to all the brutality, and everything, everything, just clicks into place. 

A thing that struck me on this re-read was how obvious it is that 'Love and War' was written to run after Battleship Potemkin (presumably changed to facilitate Si Fraser's schedule).

In Love and War it's mentioned in passing by Jena to Dante that 'your brother killed my sister' and he doesn't bat an eyelid, and yet his discovery of who did the grisly deed is then an important revelatory moment in Potemkin. Love and War also ends with the climactic - 'Tell him Nikolai D- No. Tell him Nikolai Romanov is coming for him.' And yet in Potemkin he's back to using Dante, and the captions are telling us 'At that time, Nikolai Dante's refusal to take his father's name was mystifying.'

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 17 May, 2018, 10:49:39 pm »
Talking of which, what was the deal with the Starlord artwork, it was beautiful grey scale which contrasted sharply to the 2000ad style, which don't get me wrong wasn't bad, but....different.

Just generally better production values, I suppose. That's why it was (the more-expensive-to-produce) Star Lord that was folded into (cheaper-to-produce) 2000AD.

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 17 May, 2018, 08:13:32 am »
I've perhaps asked this before, but Rogue Trooper I guess will be up till the treaty episodes, the last of the 'classic' stuff...

I did a bit of my own maths a while back, and the original run (up to the end of the Traitor General arc, anyway) will fit exactly in three volumes. As we've been told we're getting five Rogue volumes it'll be interesting to see what else we get. My guess - a volume of the Horst stuff, Cinnabar, maybe the Hit stories; and one of all the GRennie revival run.

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 15 May, 2018, 04:11:20 pm »
I guess what meant if they would include all published material up to date in Slaine, Strontium dog and ABC warriors?

Thanks

Very probably as far as Slaine and ABC Warriors go. Strontium Dog will collect up to Life and Death of Johnny Alpha.

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 15 May, 2018, 11:47:07 am »
I do wonder what we'll get with Robo-Hunter. This would have been a good opportunity to do a colour reprint of the Hughes/Hogan stuff, but we've already been told they won't be in there.

Aye, it's interesting. Book II must run up to the end of Play it Again, Sam (because take that away and it would only be 139 pages!). But the rest of the classic run is only another 161 pages - surely not enough to fill a third book? You could fit in the majority of the Samantha Slade stuff but you'd have to leave out the final two stories, so who knows...?

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Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 15 May, 2018, 09:56:09 am »
Nikolai Dante - Yes
Slaine - Probably - but it is still running
Nemesis - probably
Strontium Dog - No Starlord episodes; no Tax Dodge or Roadhouse; plus the series is still running, so nothing post-Life and Death of Johnny Alpha.
ABC Warriors - again, it's still running.
Sinister Dexter - No chance! Far too much to go into three books!
Caballistics - Yes
DR and Qunich - Very likely
Stickleback - No
(Original) Robo Hunter -Yes - and maybe some of the Samantha stories...?
(Original) Trooper - Almost certainly
Meltdown Man - Yes
Shakara - Yes
Kingdom - No
Ace Trucking - Maybe...?

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