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Messages - JOE SOAP

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Film & TV / Re: Star Wars Episode IX
« on: 22 December, 2019, 12:30:11 am »
Feck the fandom menace begrudgers.

It's a greatest hits, an easter-egg hunt, a 'sum of all' Star Wars tropes; and even though it takes careless, mad short-cuts into narrative ditches, it manages to pay-off in ways I didn't think it would: emotionally, thematically and – dare I say – as an ending.

Recklessy entertaining, entertainingly reckless, I don't care.

It's Star Wars and it worked for me.

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Film & TV / Re: Star Wars Episode IX
« on: 21 December, 2019, 07:02:29 am »
Writers were hired and fired and at the end the director became one of the co-writers (and the movies suffer because of this).

The directors hired for the trilogy (Abrams, Trevorrow) were co-writers from the very beginning — apart from Johnson, who was sole writer.

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Film & TV / Re: Star Wars Episode IX
« on: 20 December, 2019, 05:52:44 am »
And here, at the end of it all, it's Werner Herzog who ends up with the best line.


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Film & TV / Re: Star Wars Episode IX
« on: 18 December, 2019, 05:21:35 pm »
Movies with a, shall we say, 'enthusiastic' fanbase, both positive and negative, tend to skew RT votes with concerted voting campaigns.

It's only a critic rating at the moment. Fan ratings don't get voted till the film publicly releases.

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Film & TV / Re: Star Wars Episode IX
« on: 17 December, 2019, 05:29:37 pm »
Everyone's hearing the bits they want to hear – that's the alphabet soup they've made.

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Film & TV / Re: Star Wars Episode IX
« on: 15 December, 2019, 06:54:46 pm »
No, she says it. As they are running from the TIE fighters, Finn shouts "We need a pilot!" and Rey replies "We've got one". It's as much as Luke got.

Star Wars has always functioned on character short-cuts (Han always takes the short-cut) and ellipses between films, and I don't have a huge problem with Rey being a good pilot on a planet of junk ships, but what I believe blackmocco is implying is that there was a certain amount of dramatic development time allowed to sit between Luke mentioning the T-16 and then jumping into an X-Wing – there was build-up whereas JJA just goes for the direct hit. Again I don't have a huge problem with Rey's abilities. It's still a leap for Luke going from light aircraft to ace fighter-pilot but it was given audience time to render and be vague enough while the audience gets to know the character.

The more pertinent issue it could be argued is Rey having force knowledge after Kylo's interrogation – that's the 'force awakens' part that's been left to hang somewhat till the last film, apparently. I'm not in love with that kind of mystery element, or it being left so long for an answer but it is part of the overall theme, and JJ gonna JJ.




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Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 14 December, 2019, 04:36:26 pm »
Only reason BJ hasn't agreed to IndyRef2 is he needs to appease the Unionist faction of the Conservative party, otherwise it would be a done deal and Tory's would have their perpetual rule copper-fastened – but he can't say no forever. Norn Irn is similar: now that a non-unionist vote is the majority in NI for the first time ever (unionist seats taken in unionist jerrymandered constituencies), it holds no political value and is only a drain on the Treasury.

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Film & TV / Re: Star Wars Episode IX
« on: 14 December, 2019, 03:48:18 pm »
If corporate and fan politics were completely expunged from Star Wars, I'd have looked forward to an Episode IX  synthesis of ideas and threads presented by Johnson & Abrams – t'would make the most sense – instead it's whatever/just make it look and sound good.

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Film & TV / Re: Star Wars Episode IX
« on: 13 December, 2019, 09:52:07 pm »
To misquote Hudson from Aliens: "Why don't you put R2 in charge?" I'd watch THAT movie.

Secure that shit!

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Film & TV / Re: Star Wars Episode IX
« on: 13 December, 2019, 06:13:27 am »
Regarding Luke and the Jedi, something that this video really hits on that I haven't really seen discussed much elsewhere is that one of the best things about TLJ was that it attempted to bring the more spiritual and pacifistic side of the Jedi back to the fore. I didn't love all the projection stuff (maybe it would sit better with me now), but I'm totally on board with the Jedi being a bit more mystical and magical like they were in the OT, and not having to be boxed in to this prescribed 'move set' of previously established abilities.

The Last Jedi is full of set-ups and pay-offs, and I assume the narrative conceit of Luke getting the idea to astrally project himself across the galaxy was incepted in the Falcon, when R2D2* played back the original hologram of Leia's S.O.S to grumpy Luke. As a metaphorical bookend, the original call to action that sparked Luke's 'journey' all those years ago was at the very end answered, this time with Luke projecting himself back to Leia when she again needed help.

*again, of course, R2D2 saves the day.







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Film & TV / Re: Star Wars Episode IX
« on: 13 December, 2019, 03:13:10 am »

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Film & TV / Re: HBO Watchmen
« on: 25 November, 2019, 03:20:32 am »
I still kneel before The Hairy One’s word-processor, but Bootleg Watchmen or not, Episode 6: This Extraordinary Being, is one of the best pieces of telly I’ve ever seen.

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Film & TV / Re: Last movie watched...
« on: 23 November, 2019, 02:48:29 pm »
Refrigerated


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