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Film & TV / Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
« Last post by Jim_Campbell on 22 September, 2017, 07:48:34 pm »
Deadpool, American Sniper and IT prove otherwise (that's just off the top of my head) but it just goes to show how unpredictable audience engagement and box office is.

The noteworthy point is that these are exceptions. Once upon a time, studios' business lived in the mid-budget, with the low-budget surprise hit and mega-budget blockbuster both being the outliers but now the reverse is true.
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Film & TV / Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
« Last post by dweezil2 on 22 September, 2017, 07:39:23 pm »
If they set the budget for them much lower, they could be much more free to experiment

There's no money in mid-budget movies. I can't be arsed googling up articles, but it's been a noticeable much-commented-on trend that, in the last decade, no-budget (<$1M) films which enjoy moderate success will provide a return on investment, and big budget (>$100M) can provide a decent ROI, but the mid-range (~$50M) films almost never make money. See: Dredd.

Deadpool, American Sniper and IT prove otherwise (that's just off the top of my head) but it just goes to show how unpredictable audience engagement and box office is.
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Film & TV / Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
« Last post by JLC on 22 September, 2017, 07:22:59 pm »
It would really screw with audience expectation to have a mid-budget Star Wars film.

I'm surprised how expensive Logan was (relatively) though.

I don't mean it felt cheap, but it feels more like a film that would have cost $50m rather than twice that - a smaller scale Dredd type film.
Maybe the Obi Wan movie will be lower budget? To be honest I can't see how it would work having an Obi Wan movie between ROTS & ANH as he was supopsed to be in hiding. But something along the lines of Yojimbo would suit the character.
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Film & TV / Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
« Last post by Steve Green on 22 September, 2017, 07:08:21 pm »
It would really screw with audience expectation to have a mid-budget Star Wars film.

I'm surprised how expensive Logan was (relatively) though.

I don't mean it felt cheap, but it feels more like a film that would have cost $50m rather than twice that - a smaller scale Dredd type film.
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Film & TV / Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
« Last post by Jim_Campbell on 22 September, 2017, 06:51:56 pm »
If they set the budget for them much lower, they could be much more free to experiment

There's no money in mid-budget movies. I can't be arsed googling up articles, but it's been a noticeable much-commented-on trend that, in the last decade, no-budget (<$1M) films which enjoy moderate success will provide a return on investment, and big budget (>$100M) can provide a decent ROI, but the mid-range (~$50M) films almost never make money. See: Dredd.
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Film & TV / Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
« Last post by JamesC on 22 September, 2017, 06:50:16 pm »
I was always frustrated that the 'mini-rigs' Star Wars toys weren't actually vehicles from the films. I think they should make a film with them all in.
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Film & TV / Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
« Last post by TordelBack on 22 September, 2017, 06:46:31 pm »
I understand why the main franchise movies like The Last Jedi need to be huge spectacle movies (and as such need to play it relatively safe), but it's a shame that Disney apparently feel the need to make every one of these spin off films a $200m blockbuster too. If they set the budget for them much lower, they could be much more free to experiment, and they'd still be guaranteed to turn a profit. You could do a great Han Solo or Boba Fett spin off if you kept it self-contained and really simple - make it a space Western type movie confined to a handful of locations. With a good script you wouldn't need to rely on excessive cgi spectacle.

Even better, use the spin-offs to establish brand new characters (crazy idea I know).

I confess that those angles were my hope for the 'off year' movies, and if the creative histories of R1 and Untitled Han Solo Project are anything to go by that may well have been the original plan.  It's clear that R1 was headed in a different direction early on, and Lord and Miller seem to have headed off on an unexpected tangent too.

The urge to shove as much of your extremely costly IP up on the screen is an understandable one, but maybe, just maybe, once these first 5 are done we'll get something more original. 
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Film & TV / Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
« Last post by Smith on 22 September, 2017, 06:44:48 pm »
Nearing the end of season 2 of Gargoyles,and its still as great as the first time I watched it.But the world tour arc lasted way too long.
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Film & TV / Re: Last movie watched...
« Last post by Dandontdare on 22 September, 2017, 06:35:13 pm »
For me it's definitely one I'd only watch if it came on TV and I had nothing more pressing to do ... and yet it seems to be absolutely smashing the box office - apparently it's "well on the way to becoming the biggest horror movie of all time at the UK box office"
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News / Re: Zenith returns in Prog 2050!
« Last post by JLC on 22 September, 2017, 06:34:32 pm »
There's no excuse to be a lapsed reader, the Prog has been on excellent form for longer than I can remember, Zenith or no Zenith!  ;)
:lol:
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