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: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Smith 07 August, 2017, 04:47:49 PM
http://forums.millarworld.tv/t/biggest-news-ever-netflix-buys-millarworld/10356 (http://forums.millarworld.tv/t/biggest-news-ever-netflix-buys-millarworld/10356)
So yeah,that happened.Im not sure if there is anything left that hasnt been adapted/optioned as a movie,however.
(I apologize if this is the wrong forum,moderators can feel free to move it)
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: CalHab 07 August, 2017, 05:28:14 PM
One step closer to the Red Razors adaptation everyone has been clamouring for.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Jimmy Baker's Assistant 07 August, 2017, 05:39:57 PM
This is.... news.

I hope that Millar enjoys the fortune he's managed to obtain, and that Netflix learns quickly from this terrible mistake.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: TordelBack 07 August, 2017, 05:45:53 PM
I hope that Millar enjoys the fortune he's managed to obtain, and that Netflix learns quickly from this terrible mistake.

I dunno man, Millar may not be my cup of scripting, but aside from his direct Hollywood successes, there's a good argument don't that the whole MCU stems from his Ultimates work. Might not be such a crazy idea for Netflix to give him a spin.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: JLC 07 August, 2017, 05:53:37 PM
Not read any of his stuff other than 2000AD. Any good?
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Jim_Campbell 07 August, 2017, 06:02:32 PM
Not read any of his stuff other than 2000AD. Any good?

I thought all his creator-owned stuff for Marvel's Icon imprint was horrible. Cheap, mean-spirited, cynical and nasty. For some reason, the recent(ish) move to Image seems to have improved his output immeasurably. It's pretty much disposable, IMO, but far less unpleasant to read! I enjoyed both Huck and Empress quite a lot, to my considerable surprise.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Smith 07 August, 2017, 06:03:50 PM
Not read any of his stuff other than 2000AD. Any good?
His DC stuff,very.His Marvel stuff not so much.Solo,Millarworld stuff really varies.All over the place.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Greg M. 07 August, 2017, 06:08:37 PM
For some reason, the recent(ish) move to Image seems to have improved his output immeasurably. It's pretty much disposable, IMO, but far less unpleasant to read!

I've long thought that if Millar could lose the both desire to shock and the fundamentally spiteful streak that taints much of his writing, he'd be a fine writer. It's good to hear he may be doing just that. He's always been a crowd-pleaser, with a very sharp insight into what a mass audience enjoys, combined with the ability to give them what they want in a proficient, exciting manner - I just wish he didn't cater so often to their baser instincts.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Greg M. 07 August, 2017, 06:08:57 PM
For some reason, the recent(ish) move to Image seems to have improved his output immeasurably. It's pretty much disposable, IMO, but far less unpleasant to read!

I've long thought that if Millar could lose the both desire to shock and the fundamentally spiteful streak that taints much of his work, he'd be a fine writer. It's good to hear he may be doing just that. He's always been a crowd-pleaser, with a very sharp insight into what a mass audience enjoys, combined with the ability to give them what they want in a proficient, exciting manner - I just wish he didn't cater so often to their baser instincts.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: JLC 07 August, 2017, 06:16:11 PM
Not read any of his stuff other than 2000AD. Any good?
His DC stuff,very.His Marvel stuff not so much.Solo,Millarworld stuff really varies.All over the place.
Thanks. I don't read DC or Marvel, but see that a lot of his other stuff is under Image Comics who I like. Will check some of it out.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Frank 07 August, 2017, 06:24:17 PM
Mr Millar said it was only the third time in history that a company book company purchase on this scale had happened, with Warner Bros buying DC Comics in 1968, and Disney buying Marvel in 2009


Bitch, please. Rebellion buying Whizzer & Chips was a bigger deal.*


* ...and IPC to Mirror Group was definitely an even bigger deal than the lucrative Wanted franchise changing hands
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Proudhuff 07 August, 2017, 06:48:15 PM
Not read any of his stuff other than 2000AD. Any good?

I thought all his creator-owned stuff for Marvel's Icon imprint was horrible. Cheap, mean-spirited, cynical and nasty.

Aren't you confusing him with his brother Frank?
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Smith 07 August, 2017, 06:50:31 PM
Knowing Netflix,they probably decided Unfunnies would be a great adition to their animated lineup.Still,cant be worst then their Castlevania.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: dweezil2 07 August, 2017, 06:56:55 PM
I loved The Ultimates titles he worked on and I can't stand superhero comics, if that's a recommendation.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: JLC 07 August, 2017, 07:58:21 PM
Knowing Netflix,they probably decided Unfunnies would be a great adition to their animated lineup.Still,cant be worst then their Castlevania.
I watched the first episode *shudder*
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: IAMTHESYSTEM 07 August, 2017, 08:01:23 PM
Is having more comic inspired TV a bad thing? I must admit I haven't read anything by Mark Millar for a while, but I'm pleased that his work along with others might find a new output on TV.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Smith 07 August, 2017, 08:08:02 PM
Is having more comic inspired TV a bad thing?
A part of me says yes.Another part of me says it all depends on the execution.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: JOE SOAP 08 August, 2017, 12:41:10 AM


I think it's more interesting that Netflix just got into comic publishing.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: CalHab 08 August, 2017, 08:53:58 AM
His DC stuff,very.His Marvel stuff not so much.Solo,Millarworld stuff really varies.All over the place.

I have very fond memories of his run on Swamp Thing. Red Son and Old Man Logan were okay. I can't say I've enjoyed much else he's done.

A friend of mine was doing PR for a book festival back when he was promoting the Wanted film and the comic release of Kick Ass. He was very good after the show and took various fans (and me and my mate) to the pub round the corner to buy them a drink and answer questions. He seems like a genuinely nice guy, so fair play to him.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Fungus 08 August, 2017, 10:18:59 AM
Is having more comic inspired TV a bad thing? I must admit I haven't read anything by Mark Millar for a while, but I'm pleased that his work along with others might find a new output on TV.

It's not good or bad, is it? A writer whom many seem to despise wrote/writes comics and some (more) will be turned into telly. There's an awful lot of both, so try not to fixate on it if it's not your cuppa (it will affect your day).

Anyway, his Swamp Thing was OK and I liked MPH a lot. Mainly for Fegredo (fantastic) but the story works well too. I was pleasantly surprised by that last part.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: BPP 08 August, 2017, 11:36:53 AM
Starlight was very good but that was a mix of the fantastic art and Millar doing an old-man Dredd script.

Jupiters Legacy is obviously barnstorming but its pretty much down to a competent script meeting the joy of Quitely's art.

Would doubt either of those are high up the adaptation list given the costs each would involve.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Smith 08 August, 2017, 12:30:05 PM
Wouldn't that be Old-man-Flash-Gordon?
While Empress was still going,Millar said he got a movie deal,so maybe that was related to this somehow?Then again,he always says that,so who can tell?
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: BPP 08 August, 2017, 01:47:46 PM
Its Flash Gordon stylings but that bit where hero guy gets out of the lake is totally Dredd. Full on don't try and stop me angry old man Dredd.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: JOE SOAP 08 August, 2017, 01:55:30 PM
Starlight was very good but that was a mix of the fantastic art and Millar doing an old-man Dredd script.

Jupiters Legacy is obviously barnstorming but its pretty much down to a competent script meeting the joy of Quitely's art.

Would doubt either of those are high up the adaptation list given the costs each would involve.


Starlight is all ready in development at 20th Century Fox but it's not out of Netflix's budget range these days - they dropped $90 million on the fantasy film Bright (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOl4ygrkZT4).

: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: JLC 08 August, 2017, 08:48:50 PM
Is having more comic inspired TV a bad thing? I must admit I haven't read anything by Mark Millar for a while, but I'm pleased that his work along with others might find a new output on TV.
Unless it is something fresh & new rather than the same old superhero stuff it may be a bad thing. I feel like the superhero genre needs a bit of a kick up the arse. True it is still a box office winner but the forumla is starting to look a bit staid now.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Proudhuff 09 August, 2017, 11:13:27 AM
Big bit in the Herald:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/15459194.Netflix_and_thrill__Entertainment_giants_buys_rights_to_the__quot_iconic_characters_and_stories_quot__of_Scottish_comic_master_Mark_Millar/ (http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/15459194.Netflix_and_thrill__Entertainment_giants_buys_rights_to_the__quot_iconic_characters_and_stories_quot__of_Scottish_comic_master_Mark_Millar/)

The idea of a Banksyesque Millarworld in Coatbridge is rather appealing  :thumbsup:
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: jacob g 09 August, 2017, 12:48:07 PM
I never liked Millar work, but one thing about this makes me happy. Millar created all his creator owned books with artists I like and admire, and this means more money for them for work well done, so... It's kind of great news.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Frank 09 August, 2017, 12:57:41 PM
Big bit in the Herald:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/15459194.Netflix_and_thrill__Entertainment_giants_buys_rights_to_the__quot_iconic_characters_and_stories_quot__of_Scottish_comic_master_Mark_Millar/ (http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/15459194.Netflix_and_thrill__Entertainment_giants_buys_rights_to_the__quot_iconic_characters_and_stories_quot__of_Scottish_comic_master_Mark_Millar/)

The idea of a Banksyesque Millarworld in Coatbridge is rather appealing  :thumbsup:

Certain to involve lots of conveyor belts.


: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: 8-Ball 09 August, 2017, 01:03:56 PM
Good luck to them. As someone who still comes out in hives at the very thought of Millar's work on Judge Dredd and Robo-Hunter back in the early Nineties. Meh.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Tarantino 10 August, 2017, 08:55:49 AM
Who's up for Rebellion selling 2000AD to Netflix, the potential for films, TV series and animated shows would be limitless.

Go on Rebellion, sell 😀

Tarantino
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: CalHab 10 August, 2017, 08:59:13 AM
I'd rather 2000AD was owned by someone who respects and is interested in the comic. Someone like Rebellion, in fact.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Jim_Campbell 10 August, 2017, 09:02:06 AM
I never liked Millar work, but one thing about this makes me happy. Millar created all his creator owned books with artists I like and admire, and this means more money for them for work well done, so... It's kind of great news.

I'm likewise not what you'd call a Millar fan but I think it's also worth noting that ever since he went down the creator-owned route, he's offered his artists a very equitable deal. If you take a moment to look in the legal/copyright blurb of a great many 'creator-owned' books, you'll find that they really mean 'writer-owned' and everyone else, artists included, is on a work-for-hire contract, with no share at all in the product.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Magnetica 10 August, 2017, 09:14:48 AM
 :-*
Who's up for Rebellion selling 2000AD to Netflix, the potential for films, TV series and animated shows would be limitless.

Go on Rebellion, sell 😀

Tarantino

I guess we will have to wait and see how Netflix buying Millarworld affects their comics, but as far as 2000AD is concerned what I want is a weekly Prog, monthly Meg and good range of GNs. Which is what we have got. For me the comic is the main thing. Any film or TV series is a bonus, but not if it were to impact negatively on the comics. I wouldn't want 2000AD exist only to serve a large corporate TV series production.

As someone said in I think Future Shock (possibly Kev O'Neill) "you think you want 2000AD to be mainstream, but you don't as it would then have mainstream content" (or something like that).

So it would all depend on how they would treat the comics side of it for me. Anyway it's never going to happen, is it?
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Smith 10 August, 2017, 09:45:48 AM
Who's up for Rebellion selling 2000AD to Netflix, the potential for films, TV series and animated shows would be limitless.

Go on Rebellion, sell 😀

Tarantino
Don't even joke with that.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Tarantino 10 August, 2017, 01:48:41 PM
I want it to happen, in fact if I win the Euromillions I'm going to make a Rebellion an offer they can't refuse and then sell 2000AD to Netflix for a penny, just so that make a Nikolai Dante TV series, or ABC Warriors.

Tarantino
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: ming 10 August, 2017, 02:11:48 PM
I want it to happen, in fact if I win the Euromillions I'm going to make a Rebellion an offer they can't refuse and then sell 2000AD to Netflix for a penny, just so that make a Nikolai Dante TV series, or ABC Warriors.

Tarantino

In that case I take some comfort in the fact that the odds of you winning the jackpot are 1 in 139,838,160.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Bolt-01 10 August, 2017, 02:43:19 PM
Tarantino- That is a terrible idea.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: James Stacey 10 August, 2017, 03:07:01 PM
That's the worst idea since new coke  :lol:
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Jim_Campbell 10 August, 2017, 03:21:35 PM
In that case I take some comfort in the fact that the odds of you winning the jackpot are 1 in 139,838,160.

Never tell him the odds!
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Will Cooling 10 August, 2017, 04:51:15 PM
I hope that Millar enjoys the fortune he's managed to obtain, and that Netflix learns quickly from this terrible mistake.

I dunno man, Millar may not be my cup of scripting, but aside from his direct Hollywood successes, there's a good argument don't that the whole MCU stems from his Ultimates work. Might not be such a crazy idea for Netflix to give him a spin.

Did it hell. Not a single character in the MCU is like how he scripted in Ultimates. Look at his most radical updates. Is Captain America a hard-right Republican? No. Is HULK sex-crazed. No. Is Thor a new age hippy. No. Where Ultimates has influence is Bryan Hitch's art i.e. changes to Cap's costume and having Nick Fury be Sam Jackson. But Millar's influence is grossly overstated.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: Smith 10 August, 2017, 05:20:55 PM
Iron Man is an alcoholic(as opposed to 616 Iron Man who is a former alcoholic*),so there is that.

Last time I checked,around '08-09,so who knows what changed since then.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: The Adventurer 10 August, 2017, 06:44:43 PM
Mr Millar said it was only the third time in history that a company book company purchase on this scale had happened, with Warner Bros buying DC Comics in 1968, and Disney buying Marvel in 2009


Bitch, please. Rebellion buying Whizzer & Chips was a bigger deal.*


* ...and IPC to Mirror Group was definitely an even bigger deal than the lucrative Wanted franchise changing hands

I can think of a few far larger comic buy outs from non-comic companies (which is what I assume the quote is about, as its a bit garbled). Disney buying Crossgen. And Rebellion buying 2000 AD.
: Re: Netflix buys Millarworld
: TordelBack 10 August, 2017, 06:58:39 PM
I hope that Millar enjoys the fortune he's managed to obtain, and that Netflix learns quickly from this terrible mistake.

I dunno man, Millar may not be my cup of scripting, but aside from his direct Hollywood successes, there's a good argument don't that the whole MCU stems from his Ultimates work. Might not be such a crazy idea for Netflix to give him a spin.

Did it hell. Not a single character in the MCU is like how he scripted in Ultimates. Look at his most radical updates. Is Captain America a hard-right Republican? No. Is HULK sex-crazed. No. Is Thor a new age hippy. No. Where Ultimates has influence is Bryan Hitch's art i.e. changes to Cap's costume and having Nick Fury be Sam Jackson. But Millar's influence is grossly overstated.

I concede your point about Hitch, and how to your greater knowledge: my Ultimates data comes from one read of the first couple of TPBs in the library. I saw a Shield agent Hawkeye, Sam Jackson Fury assembling a dysfunctional team, and a dissolute Stark. I appreciate those are superficial, in my defence so was my reading: presumably it's more a case of two similar approaches to the same 'modern origin' problem.