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: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: janus stark 05 January, 2018, 12:39:55 PM
what can i expect from the world of Tharg this year?
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: Bolt-01 10 January, 2018, 02:15:24 PM
Just spotted on Amazon...

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51BR%2BPM-%2BOL._SX359_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)

Amazon linkie Thing! (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Strontium-Dog-Repo-John-Wagner/dp/1781086435/ref=pd_rhf_dp_s_cp_0_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1781086435&pd_rd_r=Y5ZD4ES6KHMPB87TK3QF&pd_rd_w=2ZpcY&pd_rd_wg=AXGr6&psc=1&refRID=Y5ZD4ES6KHMPB87TK3QF)
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: Rogue Judge 10 January, 2018, 03:40:15 PM
Just spotted on Amazon...

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51BR%2BPM-%2BOL._SX359_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)

Amazon linkie Thing! (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Strontium-Dog-Repo-John-Wagner/dp/1781086435/ref=pd_rhf_dp_s_cp_0_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1781086435&pd_rd_r=Y5ZD4ES6KHMPB87TK3QF&pd_rd_w=2ZpcY&pd_rd_wg=AXGr6&psc=1&refRID=Y5ZD4ES6KHMPB87TK3QF)

Oooh that looks great!  This is the most excited I have been for a trade in a long time! I caught up on Strontim Dog several monts ago and cant wait to see what happens to Johnny (and why he was acting so strange after being revived). I have avoided all spoilers thus far!
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: Dash Decent 28 January, 2018, 10:46:25 AM
Jinty Vol. 1: The Human Zoo & The Land of No Tears (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jinty-Vol-Human-Land-Tears/dp/1781086249) - 28th June 2018
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: Richard 28 January, 2018, 04:56:04 PM
Rogue Judge, I think you've missed a volume. Those questions were answered in Dogs of War.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Strontium-Dog-Death-Johnny-Alpha/dp/1781083363/ref=pd_sim_14_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=DP3Y8QWY8YHPYNMHYSSG
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: Colin YNWA 29 January, 2018, 07:41:01 AM
Jinty Vol. 1: The Human Zoo & The Land of No Tears (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jinty-Vol-Human-Land-Tears/dp/1781086249) - 28th June 2018

I don't know anything about this Jinty stuff but the write up certainly makes it sound interesting! Will be checking it out that's for sure.
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: norton canes 31 January, 2018, 12:19:33 PM
Anyone know what the first changes are going to be to the current line-up of strips?
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: Cosier 31 January, 2018, 12:55:01 PM
Anyone know what the first changes are going to be to the current line-up of strips?

Prog 2073 is going to be the next jumping on prog. Details here:
https://www.newsarama.com/37658-rebellion-march-2018-solicitations.html
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: sheridan 31 January, 2018, 01:46:38 PM
Jinty Vol. 1: The Human Zoo & The Land of No Tears (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jinty-Vol-Human-Land-Tears/dp/1781086249) - 28th June 2018

I don't know anything about this Jinty stuff but the write up certainly makes it sound interesting! Will be checking it out that's for sure.

"Whilst undergoing surgery on her lame leg, Cassy Shaw is transported into a dystopian future in which people with genetic defects are regarded as second class citizens."
I thought this was supposed to be fiction? ;-)
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: norton canes 31 January, 2018, 03:34:41 PM
Anyone know what the first changes are going to be to the current line-up of strips?

Prog 2073 is going to be the next jumping on prog. Details here:
https://www.newsarama.com/37658-rebellion-march-2018-solicitations.html

Cheers. That sounds like an awesome line-up.
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: CalHab 31 January, 2018, 03:49:46 PM
Prog 2073 is going to be the next jumping on prog. Details here:
https://www.newsarama.com/37658-rebellion-march-2018-solicitations.html

Good line up. I'm looking forward to seeing Jaegir back and am very curious about what happens next with Judge Pin.

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: Colin YNWA 31 January, 2018, 05:46:17 PM
The thrill mail has a linkie to this years Treasury releases.

https://2000ad.com/post/2906 (https://2000ad.com/post/2906)

I think a fan of a certain German pilot will be happy with the news in there!
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: IndigoPrime 31 January, 2018, 06:44:37 PM
18/10/2018 9781781086537 The 13th Floor (paperback, £14.99)
I wish this was hardback, but: OH YES!
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: Taryn Tailz 31 January, 2018, 06:52:01 PM
The next line-up looks like it's going to be much better than the current one. I'm really looking forward to the return of Judge Pin.
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: The Amstor Computer 31 January, 2018, 08:37:32 PM
18/10/2018 9781781086537 The 13th Floor (paperback, £14.99)

I wish this was hardback, but: OH YES!

The price and lack of "Vol. 1" makes me wonder how complete this will be. The collections we put out a while back barely touched the Eagle strips and came to around 120 pages or so all in, IIRC. Considering the Thirteenth Floor ran to some 400 pages in Eagle alone, plus the Scream! strips, I can't see how this can collect everything. I'd be really disappointed if this wasn't just a first book collecting the Scream! strip and the the wrap-up portion of the Eagle run, with at least one or two more books collecting the rest of the Eagle stories. Yeah, they get a bt silly later on, but it would be a shame to miss the opportunity.
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: Robo-K33F 31 January, 2018, 09:39:59 PM
18/10/2018 9781781086537 The 13th Floor (paperback, £14.99)

I wish this was hardback, but: OH YES!

The price and lack of "Vol. 1" makes me wonder how complete this will be. The collections we put out a while back barely touched the Eagle strips and came to around 120 pages or so all in, IIRC. Considering the Thirteenth Floor ran to some 400 pages in Eagle alone, plus the Scream! strips, I can't see how this can collect everything. I'd be really disappointed if this wasn't just a first book collecting the Scream! strip and the the wrap-up portion of the Eagle run, with at least one or two more books collecting the rest of the Eagle stories. Yeah, they get a bt silly later on, but it would be a shame to miss the opportunity.

This is a book one, collecting up to the end of Max's tenure at Maxwell Towers. There will be more volumes in the future.
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: The Amstor Computer 31 January, 2018, 09:46:32 PM
This is a book one, collecting up to the end of Max's tenure at Maxwell Towers. There will be more volumes in the future.

Fantastic! Thanks for confirming that - much appreciated  :)

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: Robo-K33F 31 January, 2018, 10:18:53 PM
This is a book one, collecting up to the end of Max's tenure at Maxwell Towers. There will be more volumes in the future.

Fantastic! Thanks for confirming that - much appreciated  :)

No worries.
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: Dash Decent 08 February, 2018, 06:26:36 AM
Judge Dredd: Nobody Apes The Law (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Judge-Dredd-Nobody-Apes-Law/dp/1781086338) - Paperback, 23rd August 2018

This swinging anthology of ape-related stories explore what happens when criminals try to monkey around with the law in Mega-City One!

MEET THE PRIMATE PERPS!
 Spawned from apes who were genetically altered after the Atomic Wars, a sizeable population of simian citizens now live in Mega-City One. Many have turned to crime, including Don Uggie Apelino and his ape gang. Harry Heston, on the other hand, has taken it upon himself to enforce the law, having drawn inspiration from the Big Meg’s most notorious lawman, Judge Dredd.

 * A bananas collection of weird and wonderful tales and curios featuring simians from the 2000 AD archives!
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: Colin YNWA 17 April, 2018, 08:02:20 PM
Well we ain't looking out for this thread proper are we!

Anyway Rebellion solicitations for July

JUDGE DREDD MEGAZINE 398
398 on sale 18 July 2018
More action and adventure in the future-shocked world of Judge Dredd! The epic Razorjack crossover ‘This Corrosion’ by Michael Carroll and John Higgins comes to explosive conclusion as the lawman fights for his life to escape the demonic dimension; Devlin Waugh’s date night goes from bad to worse in ‘Kiss of Death’ by Rory McConville and Mike Dowling; secrets are revealed in ‘The Returners’ by Si Spencer and Nicolo Assirelli; Oz faces destruction in Chopper: ‘Wandering Soul’ by David Baillie and Brendan McCarthy; and there’s the start of a special Strange Brigade story by Gordon Rennie and Tiernen Trevallion to tie in with this year’s must-have action-horror videogame. Plus the usual interviews and features – and in the bagged supplement this month, a former Chief Judge dispenses justice in Mega-City One in The Streets of Dan Francisco by Arthur Wyatt and Paul Marshall!
64pp (+ bagged 64pp graphic novel), monthly, £5.99
UPC: 9 770960 181187 98
ISSN: 0960 1813

2000 AD PROGS 2088-2091
2088 on sale 4 July 2018
2089 on sale 11 July 2018
2090 on sale 18 July 2018
2091 on sale 25 July 2018
Incredible SF action from the Eisner-nominated UK anthology! Judge Dredd’s on a high-speed elevator straight to hell in ‘Elevator Pitch’ by Rob Williams and Chris Weston; young Jess attempts to save Fairfax in Damned: The Fall of Deadworld by Kek-W and Dave Kendall; Nolan Blake learns the truth behind the ‘Crown’ in Skip Tracer: ‘Heavy Hangs the Head’ by James Peaty and Paul Marshall; and two new series start: Grey Area’s back, and the Exo Transfer Control cops battle murderous aliens, courtesy of Dan Abnett and Mark Harrison, and we journey to the New World in the time-shift fantasy saga The Order by Kek-W and John Burns!
32pp, weekly, £2.75
UPC: 9 770262 284227 88
UPC: 9 770262 284227 89
UPC: 9 770262 284227 90
UPC: 9 770262 284227 91

I've tried to spare you a visit to Bleeding Cool increasingly clunky site but to be fair and decent the linkie to the source

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/04/16/rebellion-2000-ad-july-2018-solicits/ (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/04/16/rebellion-2000-ad-july-2018-solicits/)
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: IndigoPrime 17 April, 2018, 11:01:21 PM
More Deadworld: hurrah!

And I hope that’s the full Heston in that book.
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: maryanddavid 17 April, 2018, 11:28:09 PM
Is that  Dredd/Razorjack crossover? I got the Hardback Razorjack last year and it was a great read,the crossover sounds like  a great idea.
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: Bolt-01 18 April, 2018, 09:19:12 AM
David- there's a Razorjack strip in the new Meg. Possibly setting up the Dredd crossover- or parts of it at least.
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: norton canes 18 April, 2018, 09:24:20 AM
Anyone know anything about this new strip 'Skip Tracer'?
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: tingramretro 12 May, 2018, 04:00:12 PM
Anyone know anything about this new strip 'Skip Tracer'?
I've just read the first installment, and I can't shake the feeling I shoud know this character from somewhere.
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: rs_jr 14 May, 2018, 01:48:16 AM
Any news on the upcoming Slaine ?

And will we ever get collection of FINN ?
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: Richard 14 May, 2018, 06:40:12 PM
I wouldn't hold your breath for Finn, as the best Finn stories have already been reprinted in the floppies.
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: The Monarch 15 May, 2018, 03:51:07 AM
a lot of floppy material made it into trades.
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: Richard 15 May, 2018, 02:00:47 PM
Not much has.
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: The Adventurer 15 May, 2018, 04:48:56 PM
Not much has.

More then you’d think though. Chopper, Death Planet, War Machine, Deadlock, Tiger Sun Dragon Moon... off the top of my head.  A bunch of Exteme Edition material is starting to get rereprinted too finally.
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: Colin YNWA 21 June, 2018, 06:14:26 PM
Some real treats in the Rebellions September solicitations:

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/06/21/2000ad-rebellion-september-2018-solicits/ (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/06/21/2000ad-rebellion-september-2018-solicits/)

Great line-up in Prog 2100 with Kingdom back, Brink back, Skip Tracer bac... oh hold on it it go? Anyway and Fiends of the East Front back with an intriguing premise - do we know the creative team for this one?

Elsewhere the Meg gets a shiny 400th issue too with Lawless and Blunt amongst the treats.

We get another Misty volume - I'd missed this was happening but that might just be me being rubbish? Sniper Elite gets a great Colin Wilson cover, can we have more Colin Wilson please Tharg

BUT for me the biggest news in this month of pretty big stuff I'd say is the floppie with Meg 400 is Mind Wars - never read it but can't wait to get my hands on more Redondo goodness!
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: sheridan 21 June, 2018, 06:30:05 PM
I've seen a few Jinty ads lately - looks like the resurrection of 1970s/1980s British children's comics is continuing apace.
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: Richard 21 June, 2018, 07:04:12 PM
That's good news about Mind Wars, it was excellent and deserves to find a new audience.
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: broodblik 21 June, 2018, 07:46:48 PM

Great line-up in Prog 2100 with Kingdom back, Brink back, Skip Tracer bac... oh hold on it it go? Anyway and Fiends of the East Front back with an intriguing premise - do we know the creative team for this one?


Hopefully for Fiends we get some black and white Colin MacNeil art similar to his Defoe work

Also looking forward to Mind Wars
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: gameluvah 21 June, 2018, 07:51:39 PM
Did anyone else's heart sink when it was noted that Skip Tracer was coming back :(? I can't miss you if you're not gone.

Spoiler: I don't think I'll miss Skip Tracer anyway.  :(

That said, looking forward to the returns of Lawless, Brink, and Fiends of the Eastern Front!!!
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: Taryn Tailz 21 June, 2018, 07:54:52 PM
The new Fiends of the Eastern Front strip sounds very intriguing.
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: broodblik 21 June, 2018, 08:27:17 PM
Did anyone else's heart sink when it was noted that Skip Tracer was coming back :(? I can't miss you if you're not gone.

I actually enjoy it. Maybe some patience to see how the series develops. Hopefully the keep the combo of Marshall/Teague on art duty
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: gameluvah 21 June, 2018, 08:46:14 PM
Did anyone else's heart sink when it was noted that Skip Tracer was coming back :(? I can't miss you if you're not gone.

I actually enjoy it. Maybe some patience to see how the series develops. Hopefully the keep the combo of Marshall/Teague on art duty

That's the problem, it's not developing...at all. I have never seen a story work so hard to go nowhere, the art is very good though.
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: I, Cosh 21 June, 2018, 09:34:52 PM
Not keen on Skip Tracer so far but good in Tharg's for finally taking heed of the eternal criticism and scheduling a quick follow up to a new strip.

More importantly, I had no idea Peter Capaldi was an artist in a formerlife.
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: Frank 21 June, 2018, 10:20:37 PM
More importantly, I had no idea Peter Capaldi was an artist in a formerlife.

I was completely unaware of this one brilliant way to check if I had PPI.

Skip Tracer's by-the-numbers stuff, but I'd rather see something new not quite work than new creators put on old strips getting by on name recognition.

I also agree that Ewan McGregor would be the most disappointing thing about an Obi-Wan Kenobi film, too, but there's no way I'm jumping into that thread. *


* A lot of very deep-seated issues being worked out there, and when the dust settles nobody involved will ever be quite the same person they were before:  https://youtu.be/T5XYNQv6F_o?t=38s
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: M.I.K. 22 June, 2018, 03:46:21 AM
More importantly, I had no idea Peter Capaldi was an artist in a formerlife.

Peter Capaldi is a pretty damn good artist in his current life (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rewhHdFDCZg).

Pretty sure he didnae draw for Misty, though.
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: gameluvah 22 June, 2018, 09:23:31 AM


Skip Tracer's by-the-numbers stuff, but I'd rather see something new not quite work than new creators put on old strips getting by on name recognition.



I'm going to have to fully agree with you there.
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: Dash Decent 03 July, 2018, 01:44:53 PM
Rico Dredd: The Titan Years (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1781086486) Paperback  – 4 Apr 2019

Original fiction featuring the story of Judge Dredd’s evil twin Rico’s years on Titan, finally revealed.

You know about me. I’m Rico Dredd, Joe Dredd's big brother.

I'm the clone that went bad, that brought shame on Judge Fargo's legacy.

I was a Judge, the best the Academy of Law ever turned out. The very best. But after less than a year on the streets of Mega-City One, I was brought down, taken in. It was Little Joe who caught me; second-best Judge there’s been.

Broken, sentenced, stripped of office, I was shipped out to the brutal moon Titan, to do my twenty years' hard labour. Yeah, you know about Rico Dredd.

But do you know what really happened? Why I did it? What it was like, out there on the edge of space, doing time in the Bronze?

Truth is, mister, you know stomm about me.



(https://i.imgur.com/Yrosxyo.jpg)
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: Dash Decent 03 July, 2018, 01:46:45 PM
Judge Dredd: Cold Wars (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/178108694X) Paperback  – 7 Mar 2019

The timely and critically acclaimed brand-new collection featuring Judge Dredd’s latest thrilling adventures

BEASTS IN THE EAST!

After returning from a mission into Sov territory, Judge Dredd finds himself at odds with fellow veterans of another past conflict – The Apocalypse War.

Under orders from the Justice Department, Dredd returns to the depths of Siberia where things start to go wrong… even his training and iron will might not be enough against the bitter cold, angry mutants and the echoes of past conflicts!

Featuring stories from Michael Carroll, Rob Williams and John Wagner with stunning art from Trevor Hairsine, Dan Cornwell, Paul Davidson and Colin MacNeil.



(https://i.imgur.com/OQQqUwa.jpg)
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: Dash Decent 03 July, 2018, 01:48:44 PM
Wildcat 1 – Turbo Jones (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1781086656) Paperback  – 10 Jan 2019
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: Colin YNWA 03 July, 2018, 07:44:19 PM
Wildcat 1 – Turbo Jones (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1781086656) Paperback  – 10 Jan 2019

Oh good trawling Dash Decent. That saves me having to buy those Wildcat issues I was about to start tracking down!
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: Richard 03 July, 2018, 07:57:16 PM
 :o :o :o :o :o
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: broodblik 03 July, 2018, 08:02:25 PM
Wildcat 1 – Turbo Jones (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1781086656) Paperback  – 10 Jan 2019

Turbo Jones was just one of the Wildcat characters ? So if this is vol 1 the rest of the Wildcat characters will each get a separate volume ? If this is the case I will look out for this next year
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: sheridan 03 July, 2018, 08:22:32 PM
Wildcat 1 – Turbo Jones (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1781086656) Paperback  – 10 Jan 2019

Oh good trawling Dash Decent. That saves me having to buy those Wildcat issues I was about to start tracking down!

Very good trawling, seeing as Amazon had put it under: Comics & Graphic Novels › Publishers › Dark Horse
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: sheridan 03 July, 2018, 08:23:42 PM
Looking forward to Michael Carroll's Rico collection.  As I don't do eBooks, is it the same format as the previous collected editions - two previously-published-as-eBooks plus a third novella seeing publication for the first time?
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: BPP 03 July, 2018, 10:34:18 PM


(https://i.imgur.com/Yrosxyo.jpg)

Wait, Rico was Arseface all this time?
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: O Lucky Stevie! 04 July, 2018, 06:46:31 AM
BUT for me the biggest news in this month of pretty big stuff I'd say is the floppie with Meg 400 is Mind Wars - never read it but can't wait to get my hands on more Redondo goodness!

KHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNN!!!

The Gospel According To Jesus Redondo deserves to be reprinted close to original publication  size in one of those  lovely Treasury of British Comics, not as a squint-o-vision floppie.

Rigellian hotshots all round.  :thumbsdown:

Wildcat 1 – Turbo Jones (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1781086656) Paperback  – 10 Jan 2019

Now we're talking  :)
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: O Lucky Stevie! 04 July, 2018, 07:46:55 AM
Jinty: Fran from the Floods (https://www.bookdepository.com/Jinty-Fran-from-Floods-Gascoine-Phil/9781781086728) 21 March 2019


Durham Red: Island of the Damned (https://www.bookdepository.com/Durham-Red-Island-Damned-Alan-Grant/9781907519260) 01 July 2020
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: sheridan 04 July, 2018, 08:23:38 AM
Durham Red: Island of the Damned (https://www.bookdepository.com/Durham-Red-Island-Damned-Alan-Grant/9781907519260) 01 July 2020

That's quite a lead time for a new edition of a previously-collected reprint!
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: Dash Decent 04 July, 2018, 12:28:15 PM
Finally - the physical version!

JUDGES Volume 1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/JUDGES-1-Michael-Carroll/dp/1781086397) Paperback  – 10 Jan 2019

New fiction series exploring the (very) near-future origins of Judge Dredd’s Department of Justice

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, 2033 A.D.

In a time of widespread poverty, inequality and political unrest, Special Prosecutor Eustace Fargo’s controversial new justice laws have come into effect.

Protests and violence meet the first Judges as they hit the street to enforce the Law; the cure, it’s clear, is far worse than the disease.

Is this a sign of things to come?


(https://i.imgur.com/lScU3SD.jpg)
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: CalHab 04 July, 2018, 02:15:35 PM
Looking forward to Michael Carroll's Rico collection.  As I don't do eBooks, is it the same format as the previous collected editions - two previously-published-as-eBooks plus a third novella seeing publication for the first time?

Pat Mills is not so impressed:
https://twitter.com/PatMillsComics/status/1014417858334527493
"1/2 Just learned that there are THREE novels about Rico out there. No one told me or gave me the opportunity to write MY character. I’m furious. #2000ad #JUDGEDREDD"

https://twitter.com/PatMillsComics/status/1014418014899527680
"2/2 The author and Rebellion endlessly say ‘we really respect you and your work.’
If that were true, they would either leave my characters alone or pay me a creator’s fee.
Otherwise it’s pure humbug! #2000ad #JUDGEDREDD"
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: James Stacey 04 July, 2018, 03:20:06 PM
I hope he checked with John Wagner before using his character Dredd and giving him a brother then. Just sounds like Unkie Pat is angling for another paycheck there.
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: James Stacey 04 July, 2018, 03:34:03 PM
Just read his comments on Michael Carroll's fb feed. Not cool at all to be doing in public. (especially as Michael is one of the nicest people you'll ever meet :) )
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: CalHab 04 July, 2018, 06:01:21 PM
Just read his comments on Michael Carroll's fb feed. Not cool at all to be doing in public. (especially as Michael is one of the nicest people you'll ever meet :) )

Yeah, it’s all very sad and will be grist to the mill of those who frequent the various FB Forums which seem to exist only to criticise, not read, the prog
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: Robin Low 04 July, 2018, 07:05:23 PM
Pat Mills is not so impressed...

I'm trying to remember if he criticised John Wagner for Blood Cadets or Origins. Or when Wagner used Bad Bob Booth. Or Snap, Crackle and Pop. Or Mega-City Two. Or The Cursed Earth.

The thing about Rico Dredd... he's not much of a character. He's a bad guy with a face full of plumbing, and little in the way of personality. There's not much substance to latch onto and claim ownership of. Some, but not much.

Regards,

Robin
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: Dandontdare 04 July, 2018, 07:12:25 PM
Pat needs to wind his neck in
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: Leigh S 04 July, 2018, 07:25:31 PM
I understand Pat's general complaint, but you are getting into very sticky territory regarding a character like Rico, who has appeared in as many flashback and hallucinatory moments as possible, from "Behold, the Beast!" to "Helter SKelter"  - unlike Satanus, who you can argue has a life outside of the Dredd continuity, Rico is like saying whoever came up with the phrase Lawmaster should get asked permisssion before they use one in the strip.

I can see it might have been politic to ask Pat if he fancied writing it given the Satanus thing, or even to have asked Pat for a list of characters he wanted to be considered for before farming out when he first started to make an issue of this (to fair, often times with more reason than here).

It'd also have a bit more weight if he had given Martin Edmond his due credit on the Accident Man film, beacuse if the "freelancers dont speak out".... Reading PAt's 2000AD history he does seem to have a fairly complex xystem of what and who counts and who and what doesnt, so you can't blame Tharg for instigating his own equally esoteric version....

Oh, and take your beef to Tharg, not Michael, I would suggest as a first step
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: broodblik 07 July, 2018, 01:32:35 PM
Wildcat to be collected: https://downthetubes.net/?p=98848 (https://downthetubes.net/?p=98848)
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: moly 07 July, 2018, 05:30:29 PM
Pat mills is starting to sound like a bitter old man and should just give it a rest
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: Apestrife 08 July, 2018, 08:19:47 PM
Judge Dredd: Cold Wars (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/178108694X) Paperback  – 7 Mar 2019

The timely and critically acclaimed brand-new collection featuring Judge Dredd’s latest thrilling adventures

BEASTS IN THE EAST!

After returning from a mission into Sov territory, Judge Dredd finds himself at odds with fellow veterans of another past conflict – The Apocalypse War.

Under orders from the Justice Department, Dredd returns to the depths of Siberia where things start to go wrong… even his training and iron will might not be enough against the bitter cold, angry mutants and the echoes of past conflicts!

Featuring stories from Michael Carroll, Rob Williams and John Wagner with stunning art from Trevor Hairsine, Dan Cornwell, Paul Davidson and Colin MacNeil.



(https://i.imgur.com/OQQqUwa.jpg)

I'm guessing William's story is the one were they rescue Sinfield and Wagner's the one were they try to rescue a former apocalypse squad member from euthanasia. But what about Carrol's? Any ideas which story or stories of his the book will collect?
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: Frank 08 July, 2018, 08:31:28 PM
Under orders from the Justice Department, Dredd returns to the depths of Siberia where things start to go wrong… even his training and iron will might not be enough against the bitter cold, angry mutants and the echoes of past conflicts!

Featuring stories from Michael Carroll, Rob Williams and John Wagner with stunning art from Trevor Hairsine, Dan Cornwell, Paul Davidson and Colin MacNeil.

(W)hat about Carrol? Any ideas which story or stories of his the book will collect?

Black Snow (Holden), Echoes (MacNeil) and The Shroud (Davidson), which ran consecutively from 2055-2068.


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: Apestrife 08 July, 2018, 08:43:28 PM
Under orders from the Justice Department, Dredd returns to the depths of Siberia where things start to go wrong… even his training and iron will might not be enough against the bitter cold, angry mutants and the echoes of past conflicts!

Featuring stories from Michael Carroll, Rob Williams and John Wagner with stunning art from Trevor Hairsine, Dan Cornwell, Paul Davidson and Colin MacNeil.

(W)hat about Carrol? Any ideas which story or stories of his the book will collect?

Black Snow (Holden), Echoes (MacNeil) and The Shroud (Davidson), which ran consecutively from 2055-2068.

Thank you. Did you like them? Did Dredd surf of on a dead dog in one of those stories?
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: IndigoPrime 08 July, 2018, 09:45:04 PM
The author and Rebellion endlessly say ‘we really respect you and your work.’
If that were true, they would either leave my characters alone or pay me a creator’s fee.
Otherwise it’s pure humbug!
They give him regular work, a significant portion of which is basically recycling. This despite his ongoing and very public criticism of the company. Then there was that colouring book thing (IP issues a go go), which continues to exist. Also, I’m not sure anyone needs to read a Rico book that’d probably end up being another wafer-thin rant about the establishment, peppered with conspiracy theory.

Pat should think himself lucky. Almost any other writer would be kicked to the kerb by a publisher for this sort of thing.
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: Jim_Campbell 08 July, 2018, 10:39:14 PM
Pat should think himself lucky. Almost any other writer would be kicked to the kerb by a publisher for this sort of thing.

I’ll confess the same thought has occurred to me. In a less benign corporate environment, a freelancer asserting ‘moral’ rights to IP they’ve already sold under work-for-hire terms that mean they have not one single leg to stand on legally would have been reminded quite forcefully long before now of the reality of their situation.
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: The Monarch 09 July, 2018, 01:30:38 AM
Agreed hundred per cent
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: broodblik 09 July, 2018, 05:51:17 AM
Pat should think himself lucky. Almost any other writer would be kicked to the kerb by a publisher for this sort of thing.

I’ll confess the same thought has occurred to me. In a less benign corporate environment, a freelancer asserting ‘moral’ rights to IP they’ve already sold under work-for-hire terms that mean they have not one single leg to stand on legally would have been reminded quite forcefully long before now of the reality of their situation.

I am in total agreement. I do understand that Pat has history behind him but that does not mean that you are indispensable. Just imagine Rebellion gets tired of this and all his current series gets reassigned to other creators.
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: IndigoPrime 09 July, 2018, 09:53:20 AM
Next prog:

Judge Dredd by Rory McConville and Chris Weston
Sláine by Rory McConville and Simon Davis
Flesh by Rory McConville and Mick McMahon

Etc.
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: IndigoPrime 09 July, 2018, 09:54:28 AM
(I do joke about Rory McConville, but hats off to the guy. As a freelancer writer myself, I'm in awe of his productivity, and the way in which he's gone from not being in 2000 AD comics to writing large chunks of them. Plus do I actually like a lot of what he does.)
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: James Stacey 09 July, 2018, 12:01:03 PM
y know what. The thought of other writers having a bash at Slaine or ABC Warriors genuinely thrills me. It's bound to be better than the endless recycling of plot punctuated with ranting.
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: Colin YNWA 09 July, 2018, 12:47:39 PM

Flesh by Rory McConville and Mick McMahon


You don't know how much I want this to happen!
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: Link Prime 09 July, 2018, 12:54:03 PM
y know what. The thought of other writers having a bash at Slaine or ABC Warriors genuinely thrills me.

Aside from The Black Hole, my favorite ABC Warriors story was written by Alan Moore.

I was chatting with former IDW head honcho Chris Ryall a couple years ago, and he suggested strong interest in producing an ABC Warriors series, but couldn't get it of the ground due to the restriction about using a different writer for the characters. 
I know IDW can be hit or miss, but the thought of new ABC Warriors material with a completely fresh creative team did have certain appeal.
The characters have always had huge potential in my opinion, and sometimes haven't been serviced with the best of story-lines (nevertheless always the best of artwork).

Having said all that, I've been a huge Pat Mills fan all my life, and regularly enjoy his current work in the Prog.
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: Tjm86 09 July, 2018, 02:21:23 PM
Just imagine Rebellion gets tired of this and all his current series gets reassigned to other creators.

Not to mention, what will happen when karks it.  What will he do?  Come back as the ultimate ghost writer?  Or just haunt King's Reach tower, moaning pitifully about what writers are doing with his characters now?
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: Greg M. 09 July, 2018, 03:56:17 PM
I would hope that when Pat is no longer with us, 2000AD would retire his characters. All current evidence suggests that won't be the case, unfortunately.
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: Bolt-01 10 July, 2018, 01:09:17 PM
and with the best will in the world it shouldn't be. Rebellion have spent a lot of money to own these characters and the revenue they generate. I would imagine that The ABC warriors and Slaine will definitely be continued.
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: James Stacey 10 July, 2018, 01:26:02 PM
Marvel would be kerbollocked when Stan Lee dies.
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: Greg M. 10 July, 2018, 01:51:16 PM
From my perspective, continuing ABC Warriors and Slaine without the unique authorial voice of Pat Mills would be a creatively worthless endeavour, just as continuing Indigo Prime and Devlin Waugh without John Smith is.
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: Bolt-01 10 July, 2018, 02:13:01 PM
But you are happy for the artists to be reshuffled despite their authorial voices?
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: IndigoPrime 10 July, 2018, 02:30:45 PM
From my perspective, continuing ABC Warriors and Slaine without the unique authorial voice of Pat Mills would be a creatively worthless endeavour, just as continuing Indigo Prime and Devlin Waugh without John Smith is.
I'm torn on the John Smith thing. It's hard to know fully what went down there, and even what the current situation is. But I get the feeling he basically filed some scripts and then – due to horrible personal circumstances – basically went dark for two years. It comes across now like bridges have been well and truly burnt, but I hope that's not the case. His voice was unique and exciting, and is – as I've said before – the reason I stuck with the Prog.

As for others taking over, though, I don't know. Indigo Prime worked nicely with Kek-W behind the typewriter. Devlin Wauigh, though, just didn't click. McConville just doesn't have the right voice for me, and perhaps he was deck-clearing but bringing tantalising glimpses that were presumably Smith's background texture to the fore seemed an awfully strange decision. Still, these are Rebellion's characters, to do with as they please, and if the people behind them won't write anything further, and the editor reckons others can do a good job, that's their prerogative.

But you are happy for the artists to be reshuffled despite their authorial voices?
This is an interesting point, not least given that a strip's visuals are often as much of a 'voice' as what's said/written.
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: Jim_Campbell 10 July, 2018, 02:39:12 PM
Also worth noting that assigning Smith’s authorial voice to someone else’s character gave us what is near-universally regarded as the best Rogue Trooper story, whilst ‘Red Planet Blues’ remains my favourite ABC Warriors story by some margin.
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: Steve Green 10 July, 2018, 02:42:13 PM
Depends on the strip for me.

If a strip starts with a varied line-up then it works up to a point - multiple artists are having their input (see Dredd), plus not many artists could keep up with doing it day in day out anyway, so it's just a reality.

For those who have a stamp on it - Carlos on Strontium Dog, Ian on Robohunter, then I find another artist taking over hard going.

I believe Kingdom was held back for Richard's availability, so it seems to be preferred to hold back for certain strips.

And I'm not comfortable with the way John appears to have been treated either - I've been dipping in and out of the prog and megazine this year because I'm not really feeling it, and having that hanging over strips doesn't really encourage me to do so.

It may be a great strip, but hard to separate that from the circumstances.

Also in general with a couple of exceptions, having other writers take over characters doesn't have a great track record either.
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: Greg M. 10 July, 2018, 02:59:36 PM
But you are happy for the artists to be reshuffled despite their authorial voices?

You do indeed make a good point, Bolt, and I don't want to give the impression that I think the artist on a comic strip is somehow of lesser importance than the writer. That's not my belief. However, I do feel Slaine and the ABCs are defined more by Mills's voice than by the work of any individual artist. I'm not saying you can't get interesting one-offs or stories with different writers – as Jim suggests, few would fault Cinnabar – but for the most part I’d rather new creators came up with their own unique stories.
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: James Stacey 10 July, 2018, 03:01:01 PM
I think the John Smith thing was unfortunate but also an exception rather than the rule. Whether it was right or wrong to pass the characters on, if John hadn't encountered the horrible personal circumstances and continued supplying scripts I suspect there would have been 0% chance that he would have been taken off IP in favour of someone else.
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: IndigoPrime 10 July, 2018, 03:06:19 PM
I suspect James is right. Be mindful that while Smith was – albeit sporadically and somewhat randomly – filing content to 2000 AD, his strips were never given to other writers. It was only when – from what I can tell – he went dark for something like two years, leaving Tharg with a half-finished series, that cogs started turning. Perhaps that was bad timing. Perhaps had Smith resurfaced a few months earlier, things would be different. But things are what they are. (And, as I've said elsewhere, while I do sympathise with Smith and love his work, you can't just cut off all contact and expect to pick up where you left off.)
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: Steve Green 10 July, 2018, 03:18:22 PM
There are plenty of half-finished series/plotlines littering the past few years not by John Smith.

I have some sympathy about getting someone in to finish one already started in IP, but handing over Devlin Waugh and Tyranny Rex?
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: Greg M. 10 July, 2018, 03:30:07 PM
I have some sympathy about getting someone in to finish one already started in IP, but handing over Devlin Waugh and Tyranny Rex?

Agreed - not to mention Revere, whose appearance, whilst possibly intended as tribute to Smith, jarred horribly.
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: IndigoPrime 10 July, 2018, 04:19:52 PM
There are plenty of half-finished series/plotlines littering the past few years not by John Smith.
Sure, but with Indigo Prime, Rebellion already had (and has presumably paid for) a chunk of script. So that wasn't so much a dangling plot thread as content that could only be used if someone finished it.
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: The Amstor Computer 10 July, 2018, 06:51:09 PM
I could be wrong, but from memory of the various postings here and elsewhere, John Smith had completed the first two episodes and was working on another after a long hiatus. I believe Lee Carter had completed his art for those episodes too, so I'm assuming Tharg was left with a dozen pages of complete story and a tough choice to make between binning the whole lot, proceeding without Smith, or waiting and hoping that the whole story could be completed at some point by Smith.

Beyond that, I've no idea what's happened between Tharg/Rebellion and Smith, but hopefully it doesn't preclude a return for him at some point - he's one of my favourite voices in the prog, and I'd like to see more by him at some point. That new writers have taken over on Devlin Waugh and Tyranny (though perhaps that latter will be a one-off, rather than an ongoing thing) suggests a more major breakdown, but we'll see.

re: Pat's complaint about Rico. Eh... I'm a little iffy on that one. Yes, he's Pat's (and Mick's) creation and the story is relatively important in the development of Dredd, but it feels a little off for a writer who has essentially had nothing to do with Dredd (barring some half-dozen or so episodes?) for decades to erupt about another freelancer exploring the character (especially for a strip that is, now Wagner has stepped back significantly, more of a corporate strip). I remember the blow-up about Satanus and I had a little more sympathy for that, as Pat had returned to the old dino several times and had crossed him over to his other strips (that said, it had been quite some time since anything had happened with Satanus at that point, and he wasn't as clearly a "Pat Mills" character as someone like Nemesis or Hammerstein, so I could see how editorial and all involved had gone forward with Satanus Unchained expecting no issues).


: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: Frank 10 July, 2018, 07:47:20 PM
There are plenty of half-finished series/plotlines littering the past few years not written by John Smith. I have some sympathy about getting someone in to finish one already started (Indigo Prime), but handing over Devlin Waugh and Tyranny Rex?

Agreed - not to mention Revere, whose appearance, whilst possibly intended as tribute to Smith, jarred horribly. For the most part, I’d rather new creators came up with their own unique stories.

In general, with a couple of exceptions, having other writers take over characters doesn't have a great track record.

Quality is the strongest argument against treating stories like shoes at a bowling alley (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=44818.0).

Mills has a solution that addresses Bolt's concern for artists by compensating creators for all exploitation of characters and strips they originate in exactly the same way Rebellion already do with regard to merchandise. *

If anyone else uses something you created, you're paid a fixed percentage. Giving originators a stake in this way incentivises originality in new creators and publishers alike.

For the avoidance of further misunderstanding, Mills recently posted that he's sought and received assurances that nobody else will be writing characters he created (https://www.facebook.com/PatMillsComics/posts/10212993716012527?comment_id=10213012351798410&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R0%22%7D).



* Full details here (http://viciousimagery.blogspot.com/2017/02/loving-alien-guide-to-running-2000ad.html), outlined by Mills's own Nemesis, Dark Dave Bishop, in a guide to running 2000ad that's well worth reading in its own right:

"Egmont Fleetway pays creators 10% of our net revenue from sales. This is split equally – 5% to the writer, 5% to the artist. However, if the item is drawn by someone other than the original artist creator, we split the 5% art royalty 80/20 – the artist whose work is being sold gets 4%, the character’s creator gets 1%.

In the case of the Prog 2000 t-shirt, this gets even more complicated because it features five characters. The writer split is fairly straight forward, going to Pat Mills (1% as creator of Nemesis), Robbie Morrison (1% as creator of Nikolai Dante), Gerry Finley-Day (1% as creator of Rogue Trooper),  and John Wagner (2% as creator of Judge Dredd and Strontium Dog).

But when it comes to the art split, the headaches really begin. The artist, Brian Bolland, will get 4% of our net revenue. The other 1% of the art royalty is split between Kevin O’Neill (0.2% as creator of Nemesis), Simon Fraser (0.2% as creator of Nikolai Dante), Dave Gibbons (0.2% as creator of Nemesis), and Carlos Ezquerra (0.4% as creator of Judge Dredd and Strontium Dog)."

http://viciousimagery.blogspot.com/2017/02/loving-alien-guide-to-running-2000ad.html
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: Jim_Campbell 10 July, 2018, 07:58:59 PM
For the avoidance of further misunderstanding, Mills recently posted that he's sought and received assurances that nobody else will be writing characters he created (https://www.facebook.com/PatMillsComics/posts/10212993716012527?comment_id=10213012351798410&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R0%22%7D).

That's from 19th of May and considerably predates this latest Rico kerfuffle, though, suggesting the issue might not be completely settled.
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: IndigoPrime 10 July, 2018, 08:26:31 PM
I had to discourage a serious attempt by the Phoenix to do a young Slaine about four years ago, so my concern about these new writers is real. If the Phoenix project had gone ahead it would have been a watered down Slaine for the middle classes. Eugh!
I'm thinking "Eugh!" at this point, too, but not at the Phoenix. FFS.
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: Jim_Campbell 10 July, 2018, 08:29:48 PM
I'm thinking "Eugh!" at this point, too, but not at the Phoenix. FFS.

Given that it wouldn't have been 'Young Slaine', unless there was a serious proposal to license the character to The Phoenix I never heard about, is Pat now claiming to have ownership over 'all barbarian stories with a Celtic flavour'…?!
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: IndigoPrime 10 July, 2018, 08:32:40 PM
Perhaps he invented Conan the Barbarian in 1932.
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: The Amstor Computer 10 July, 2018, 08:34:12 PM
That revenue split sounds like a reasonable approach, though one that has some wrinkles that would be interesting to see dealt with.

The link to Pat's "keep off the grass" statement is interesting - there's a fair amount in there I agree with, and Pat's position on strips like Slaine is entirely understandable and seems to be respected by Rebellion. That said... M.A.C.H. 1? The strip even Pat has said was a direct rip-off of The Six Million Dollar Man? Like a whole host of strips at the time, it was clearly a comic response to a popular series in other media, and while it had a 2000AD spin put on it, it's hard not to have some sympathy with the idea that it was Steve Austin with the serial numbers filed off. John Probe was also almost a "house character" from the off (writing credits alone on the strip run to Pat, John Wagner, Roy Preston, Nick Allen, Charles Herring, Alan Hebden, Robert Flynn and Steve MacManus across the life of the strip) and while Pat has clearly staked his claim here with his sequel/reimagining, Greysuit, the "ownership" of M.A.C.H. 1 doesn't feel as clear-cut as something like Nemesis, Slaine et al. I wonder if he would have been quite as protective about John Probe if he hadn't mined M.A.C.H. 1 for a reimagining of his own?
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: Frank 10 July, 2018, 09:33:48 PM
That revenue split sounds like a reasonable approach, though one that has some wrinkles that would be interesting to see dealt with.

The link to Pat's "keep off the grass" statement is interesting - there's a fair amount in there I agree with, and Pat's position on strips like Slaine is entirely understandable and seems to be respected by Rebellion. That said... M.A.C.H. 1? The strip even Pat has said was a direct rip-off of The Six Million Dollar Man? Like a whole host of strips at the time, it was clearly a comic response to a popular series in other media, and while it had a 2000AD spin put on it, it's hard not to have some sympathy with the idea that it was Steve Austin with the serial numbers filed off. John Probe was also almost a "house character" from the off (writing credits alone on the strip run to Pat, John Wagner, Roy Preston, Nick Allen, Charles Herring, Alan Hebden, Robert Flynn and Steve MacManus across the life of the strip) and while Pat has clearly staked his claim here with his sequel/reimagining, Greysuit, the "ownership" of M.A.C.H. 1 doesn't feel as clear-cut as something like Nemesis, Slaine et al. I wonder if he would have been quite as protective about John Probe if he hadn't mined M.A.C.H. 1 for a reimagining of his own?

I don't imagine Mills has much time for Frank Miller or his work, but he'd do well to heed Dwight's advice about the importance of choosing the ground upon which you fight[1].

Mills & McMahon are undeniably the creators of Rico[2], but arguing that only they should decide when or how that character is used seems more like dogged determination to follow a point of principle to its logical conclusion than heartfelt anguish.

On the other hand, Slaine, ABC Warriors, Nemesis, Finn, and Defoe - the starting points for that line of logic - I'm happy to watch disappear over the horizon alongside their creators[3].


[1] To be fair to Mills, the Mach-1 comments were in response to Whatabouttery from Jay Gunn.

[2] ... and, therefore, under the terms described above, would be entitled to a tiny stake in any future exploitation of the character. Mills & McMahon would receive a credit on any film or TV show that made use of the character. Few would argue that shouldn't involve financial compensation, so it seems strange to argue that exploitation of the character in other media should be any different.

[3] ... or, as Mills would presumably agree, for Alex Di Campi (https://2000ad.com/post/3623) to weigh her desire to write Slaine against her willingness to send 1% off to Torremolinos every week, marked 'paid with thanks'
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: Steven Denton 11 July, 2018, 10:48:50 AM
I like a lot of stories written by people other than the original creators of strips but I do think the original creators deserve recognition and compensation and I think Mills has a point about the creators wishes about other writers working on their strips being respected. I also think that there is a good argument that rights were sold too cheaply because the system demanded it in the past. creators had no choice other than to sell their entire stake in something and have no guarantee of a credit if they wanted to work in UK comics up until the late 1970's Rebellion Bought the IP, they can respect Mills wishes or not as a gentleman's agreement, the only way to guarantee the creators rights is to transfer some ownership back to them. If they were to sell their IP there is no guarantee that any subsequent owner would uphold the same agreement. If the agreements were part of the sale than the IP would be worth less then if the new IP holder was free to act however they whished.

Characters created for someone else's strip or a corporate strip are a more complicated issue. The originator is already working within someone else's sand box so the ideas can only ever be so original, and if no one else can use them in a shared universe there probably isn't a compelling reason to let them be created in the first place. Dredd had a bit of an issue (also an issue with Dredd and Anderson) where different writers tell complex and far reaching stories that have absolutely no effect on each other, it seems at times like they exist in small unconnected bubble universes within the comic. 

For a real mess though, I present to you; Friday. Friday is a re-boot of Rogue Trooper Gerry Finley-Day and Dave Gibbons created RT but Gibbons and Will Simpson created Friday, but Friday is basically Rogue so was he actually created by Finley-Day Gibbons & Simpson? Maybe not. Gibbons IIRC made Friday how he thought RT should be, essential expunging Finley-Days input so maybe it is just Gibbons and Simpson. Friday then becomes Tor Cyan under Kev Walker and John Tomlinson... but does that make Tor created by Finley-Day Gibbons Walker and Tomlinson?
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: M.I.K. 11 July, 2018, 02:16:50 PM
I had to discourage a serious attempt by the Phoenix to do a young Slaine about four years ago, so my concern about these new writers is real. If the Phoenix project had gone ahead it would have been a watered down Slaine for the middle classes. Eugh!
I'm thinking "Eugh!" at this point, too, but not at the Phoenix. FFS.

Whenever Pat Mills says anything about middle class folk it reminds me of those vehemently homophobic politicians who turn out to have a profile on Grindr.

Also, WTAF is he on about? What has class got to do with anything in this instance? Is it just 'cos they (apparently) sell the comic in Waitrose?
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: IndigoPrime 11 July, 2018, 03:06:25 PM
God knows. You'd think he'd be supportive of a comic full of original strip that, against all the odds, has managed to survive and thrive in the current climate, rather than dismissing it with a sneer. And, like Jim said, why shouldn't they do a barbarian strip? Sláine isn't exactly unique in the world.
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: Steve Green 11 July, 2018, 03:45:18 PM
Supportive like this thread you mean?

https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=44773.0 (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=44773.0)
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: Jim_Campbell 11 July, 2018, 03:46:58 PM
Supportive like this thread you mean?

How is that in any way relevant to the subject under discussion?
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: Steve Green 11 July, 2018, 03:55:31 PM
Ah, it's the wrong product we're being supportive of then?
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: Frank 11 July, 2018, 04:01:41 PM

Steve: It wasn't made clear, but the 'supportive' comment was referring to The Phoenix, rather than 2000ad and/or the forum run under its auspices.

I don't suppose anyone is obliged to be supportive of any comic they don't like, for whatever reason. Certainly not one they believe* was trying to use a character they created in a way that wouldn't benefit them in any way.

The exploitation of work by others without compensation being the reason for the remarks under discussion.


* Rightly or wrongly
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: Jim_Campbell 11 July, 2018, 04:09:30 PM
The exploitation of work by others without compensation being the reason for the remarks under discussion.

I wonder if John Wagner's on a percentage of that colouring book…
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: Robin Low 11 July, 2018, 06:25:42 PM
Couple of days late to this...

From my perspective, continuing ABC Warriors and Slaine without the unique authorial voice of Pat Mills would be a creatively worthless endeavour, just as continuing Indigo Prime and Devlin Waugh without John Smith is.

I dunno about you, but I think the voice of both Warriors and Slaine has changed quite considerably since they began, not always for the better. On that basis, I think they could stand different writers. I also liked the recent Indigo Prime (including the addition of Revere) and Devlin Waugh.

I'd like to see John Smith back, though. There's no doubt about it: Cinnabar, Killing Time and Cradlegrave are among the very best series we've ever seen in 2000AD.

Regards,

Robin
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: Frank 11 July, 2018, 07:59:19 PM
(T)he voice of both Warriors and Slaine has changed quite considerably since they began, not always for the better. On that basis, I think they could stand different writers. I'd like to see John Smith back, though. There's no doubt about it: Cinnabar, Killing Time and Cradlegrave are among the very best series we've ever seen in 2000AD.

If Tharg had responded to the success of Cinnabar by putting Smith on Rogue, we may never have been blessed with those other strips. Smith's other Rogue Trooper strip, Enfleshings[1], was dismal, which is generally how things go with house characters.[2]

The fact we have to go back 30 years to find a franchise story everyone agrees was any good tells you everything you need to know. I don't have any problem with Tharg giving creators the heave-ho, but trying to franchise their strips is in nobody's best interests[3].


[1] 2000ad Yearbook 1993 (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=prog&page=specials&choice=2000AD93).

[2] Although volunteering a story written by the best writer in the world as an example of how easy it would be to turn ABC Warriors into a sandbox for creators gave me a laugh. Not sure Alan Moore returns Tharg's calls anymore, the reasons for that include the very issue under discussion here.

[3] Including Tharg's
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: Jim_Campbell 11 July, 2018, 08:38:09 PM
Although volunteering a story written by the best writer in the world as an example of how easy it would be to turn ABC Warriors into a sandbox for creators gave me a laugh.

Pretty sure I didn’t say that. I simply mentioned that it was my favourite ABC Warriors story — there aren’t a lot of non-Mills entries into that canon to choose from, for obvious reasons. Maybe John Smith could have given us a cracking ABC Warriors tale, but we’ll never know.
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: Steven Denton 12 July, 2018, 08:05:21 PM
I’m slightly torn on this because the idea that franchising strips doesn’t work for 2000ad is pretty shaky. all Dredd world strips are a franchise and that seems to work out pretty well. It’s not that surprising that you have to go back 30 years to find solid gold classics because truely outstanding strips don’t come along all that often. A strips legend grows with time to legendary strips are more or less always going to be from decades past. Aside from Dredd 2000ad hasn’t routinely farmed strips out to replacement/alternative writers so examples are always going to be thin on the ground. Some of the strips that were rebooted in the late 80’s and 90’s were given to terrible writers, Millar and Flisher’s original work was just as balls awful as their work on company IP.

Robohunter I enjoyed originally. Lovely art, entertaining enough scripts, but nothing that really made that big an impression on me. I don’t think of it as a classic, levels of attachment may vary. The Mark Millar reboot is objectively awful (still nice art though) but the Peter Hogan run (although short) was probably my favourite. (The art quality rarely dips in 2000ad does it? That run have some simply stunning artwork) Give a property to a bad writer and you are going to get a bad strip.

So I disagree that ‘franchises’ produce worse strips.

But I don’t really want to see IP flogged to death for decades either. There is something to be said for new ideas and constantly moving forward. Superhero comics are stuck on an infinite loop and it would be a real shame to see that happen to 2000ad. Funny as it would be to see the outrage a new book of Zenith by a new writer I wouldn’t actually be interested in reading it.



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: broodblik 12 July, 2018, 08:41:40 PM
But I don’t really want to see IP flogged to death for decades either. There is something to be said for new ideas and constantly moving forward. Superhero comics are stuck on an infinite loop and it would be a real shame to see that happen to 2000ad. Funny as it would be to see the outrage a new book of Zenith by a new writer I wouldn’t actually be interested in reading it.

I agree with what you are saying. If Zenith would return the only artist on duty must be Yeowell. I am currently re-reading the new colored versions of Halo Jones. I always wanted this to return. Who would be able to write this and who would be able to give justice to the characters like Gibson ? We can all dream, cant we ?
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: Woolly 12 July, 2018, 09:11:07 PM
But I don’t really want to see IP flogged to death for decades either. There is something to be said for new ideas and constantly moving forward. Superhero comics are stuck on an infinite loop and it would be a real shame to see that happen to 2000ad. Funny as it would be to see the outrage a new book of Zenith by a new writer I wouldn’t actually be interested in reading it.

I agree with what you are saying. If Zenith would return the only artist on duty must be Yeowell. I am currently re-reading the new colored versions of Halo Jones. I always wanted this to return. Who would be able to write this and who would be able to give justice to the characters like Gibson ? We can all dream, cant we ?

Its known that Alan Moore had an outline for the entire Halo Jones saga, Neil Gaiman claims to have listened to this from the horses mouth.
Surely the great bearded one wouldn't have a problem with selling this to Tharg so someone else could pick up the baton so to speak?
Surely this would tempt Ian Gibson back to the fold?

As you said, we can but dream...
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: Jim_Campbell 12 July, 2018, 09:17:04 PM
Surely the great bearded one wouldn't have a problem with selling this to Tharg so someone else could pick up the baton so to speak?

In the past, Moore's basic position in any discussion of 2000AD work has always started with "Give me Halo Jones back." I suspect this is more for devilment on the part of the Bard of Northampton, and is just his way of saying "No, never" but it amuses him to pretend that there are circumstances where he might consider it, but attaches them to a demand he knows will never be accepted.
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: sheridan 12 July, 2018, 09:18:56 PM
But I don’t really want to see IP flogged to death for decades either. There is something to be said for new ideas and constantly moving forward. Superhero comics are stuck on an infinite loop and it would be a real shame to see that happen to 2000ad. Funny as it would be to see the outrage a new book of Zenith by a new writer I wouldn’t actually be interested in reading it.

I agree with what you are saying. If Zenith would return the only artist on duty must be Yeowell. I am currently re-reading the new colored versions of Halo Jones. I always wanted this to return. Who would be able to write this and who would be able to give justice to the characters like Gibson ? We can all dream, cant we ?

Its known that Alan Moore had an outline for the entire Halo Jones saga, Neil Gaiman claims to have listened to this from the horses mouth.
Surely the great bearded one wouldn't have a problem with selling this to Tharg so someone else could pick up the baton so to speak?
Surely this would tempt Ian Gibson back to the fold?

As you said, we can but dream...


Hah - so funny!
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: sheridan 12 July, 2018, 09:21:01 PM
I sort of would want to see the other six books of Halo (by Moore and Gibson) on the other hand I'm not sure it would live up to expectations.  The three books stand together pretty well, with the last panel of the last book tying in to the first advert and cover.  I wanted to see the first three chapters of Star Wars, until they came out, written and (the first one) directed by the original creator.  Careful what you wish for...
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: The Monarch 12 July, 2018, 11:28:54 PM
isn't alan moore retiring from writing after that last volume of loeg hes doing at the moment
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: sheridan 13 July, 2018, 12:18:00 AM
isn't alan moore retiring from writing after that last volume of loeg hes doing at the moment

Didn't he retire about ten years ago?  Before the Black Dossier, the three Nemo books and Jerusalem ;-)

Speaking of which, just read the Nemo books and the (comic pages of) the dossier - great stuff, well worth a read.  When I have slightly more time I may even read the more text-heavy pages...

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: M.I.K. 13 July, 2018, 05:13:07 AM
If I remember correctly, Moore said he was pretty much done with comics but didn't rule out the possibility of doing the odd little comicy thing later on.
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: Dandontdare 13 July, 2018, 12:09:28 PM
But I don’t really want to see IP flogged to death for decades either. There is something to be said for new ideas and constantly moving forward. Superhero comics are stuck on an infinite loop and it would be a real shame to see that happen to 2000ad. Funny as it would be to see the outrage a new book of Zenith by a new writer I wouldn’t actually be interested in reading it.

I agree with what you are saying. If Zenith would return the only artist on duty must be Yeowell. I am currently re-reading the new colored versions of Halo Jones. I always wanted this to return. Who would be able to write this and who would be able to give justice to the characters like Gibson ? We can all dream, cant we ?

Its known that Alan Moore had an outline for the entire Halo Jones saga, Neil Gaiman claims to have listened to this from the horses mouth.
Surely the great bearded one wouldn't have a problem with selling this to Tharg so someone else could pick up the baton so to speak?
Surely this would tempt Ian Gibson back to the fold?

As you said, we can but dream...

Ian Gibson disputes this legendary anecdote - he says Moore had a few ideas but certainly didn't have the whole thing worked out. Gibson actually wrote and submitted books 4 and 5 but they were never commissioned. He also has a lot to say about Moore's general writing on HJ - "plot holes you could strain your vegetables through" was a favourite phrase.
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: dweezil2 13 July, 2018, 01:03:29 PM
But I don’t really want to see IP flogged to death for decades either. There is something to be said for new ideas and constantly moving forward. Superhero comics are stuck on an infinite loop and it would be a real shame to see that happen to 2000ad. Funny as it would be to see the outrage a new book of Zenith by a new writer I wouldn’t actually be interested in reading it.

I agree with what you are saying. If Zenith would return the only artist on duty must be Yeowell. I am currently re-reading the new colored versions of Halo Jones. I always wanted this to return. Who would be able to write this and who would be able to give justice to the characters like Gibson ? We can all dream, cant we ?

Its known that Alan Moore had an outline for the entire Halo Jones saga, Neil Gaiman claims to have listened to this from the horses mouth.
Surely the great bearded one wouldn't have a problem with selling this to Tharg so someone else could pick up the baton so to speak?
Surely this would tempt Ian Gibson back to the fold?

As you said, we can but dream...

Ian Gibson disputes this legendary anecdote - he says Moore had a few ideas but certainly didn't have the whole thing worked out. Gibson actually wrote and submitted books 4 and 5 but they were never commissioned. He also has a lot to say about Moore's general writing on HJ - "plot holes you could strain your vegetables through" was a favourite phrase.

Get Leah Moore to script it, problem solved!  ;)

(Ask dad for permission first of course)
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: broodblik 13 July, 2018, 01:20:16 PM
Ian Gibson disputes this legendary anecdote - he says Moore had a few ideas but certainly didn't have the whole thing worked out. Gibson actually wrote and submitted books 4 and 5 but they were never commissioned. He also has a lot to say about Moore's general writing on HJ - "plot holes you could strain your vegetables through" was a favourite phrase.

The truth is out there and maybe one day we will open the prog and the last chapters will unfold in front off us.
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: IndigoPrime 13 July, 2018, 01:34:49 PM
Given the manner in which Gibson burned his bridges with 2000 AD, I can't see that happening, well, ever.
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: broodblik 13 July, 2018, 03:14:03 PM
Given the manner in which Gibson burned his bridges with 2000 AD, I can't see that happening, well, ever.

So that is the reason why I have not seen his work in AD. So what did he do ?
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: IndigoPrime 13 July, 2018, 04:36:15 PM
Filed half-arsed art for the Samantha Slade story, gave up, and then at some point named a pin-up "topless Halo" and then acted like a massive prick about it (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/mar/21/halo-jones-topless-row-ian-gibson) when Rebellion said NOPE. Alan Moore wasn't thrilled about the last of those either.
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: broodblik 15 July, 2018, 02:05:47 PM
Ok now I am also up to speed. Would still like a possibility that at one stage we can see the further adventures of Halo Jones.  :)
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: Richard 15 July, 2018, 11:37:42 PM
I hope not. It ended perfectly well, and I don't really want to see someone else trying to be Alan Moore.
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: broodblik 16 July, 2018, 03:59:53 AM
It is more wishful thinking than anything else. I cant see anyone else picking this up and continuing the story-line. This is the same case with Zenith. Both will be remembered with great fondness and  I would rather never have a new story-line than a twisted version going forward.
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: sheridan 16 July, 2018, 12:34:04 PM
It is more wishful thinking than anything else. I cant see anyone else picking this up and continuing the story-line. This is the same case with Zenith. Both will be remembered with great fondness and  I would rather never have a new story-line than a twisted version going forward.

I enjoyed it, but for an idea on how it would happen, and differ from the three books we know (this example with Moore's full blessing), look at the Neil Gaiman MarvelmanMiracleman books.  Quality writing, but of a completely different style to what went before.
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: Dash Decent 19 July, 2018, 01:10:03 PM
Wildcat 1 – Turbo Jones (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1781086656) Paperback  – 10 Jan 2019

(https://i.imgur.com/0FDjrlN.jpg)
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: Richard 19 July, 2018, 07:06:49 PM
What a great cover!
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: Cosier 19 July, 2018, 09:42:28 PM
Jimmy Broxton is the new artist on Storm Warning. (https://twitter.com/johnreppion/status/1019645749875879936)

Happy to see more Lillian and Broxton is a great choice... but hadn't it previously been announced that Tom Foster was returning? Maybe I'm misremembering. (I guess it could be a Nemesis the Warlock-esque situation, where Broxton is doing Book 2 whilst Foster is working on Book 3?)
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: Link Prime 20 July, 2018, 10:34:16 AM
Great news that The Broxton Droid is returning, just wish it was on something other than Storm Warning.
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: TordelBack 20 July, 2018, 03:04:47 PM
Great news that The Broxton Droid is returning, just wish it was on something other than Storm Warning.

Ditto.  Storm Warning was a top thrill for me, but I suspect Foster's wonderfully spacious art was a huge part of that.  I can see why the superb Broxton would be a solid choice for a replacement, but I'd rather see him on new projects of his own, and Foster back on SW... It all feels like it might go a bit Ten Seconders or Button Man IV to me... a fantastic artist stepping in, but just not the same.  But when does anyone ever get what they want, hmmm?
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: broodblik 21 July, 2018, 05:45:30 AM
Ditto.  Storm Warning was a top thrill for me, but I suspect Foster's wonderfully spacious art was a huge part of that.  I can see why the superb Broxton would be a solid choice for a replacement, but I'd rather see him on new projects of his own, and Foster back on SW... It all feels like it might go a bit Ten Seconders or Button Man IV to me... a fantastic artist stepping in, but just not the same.  But when does anyone ever get what they want, hmmm?

Interesting that in Prog 2057 "Thrills of the Furture" it was mentioned that Storm Warning: Green and Pleasant Land by Leah Moore, John Reppion and Tom Foster will return to the Meg.
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: sheridan 21 July, 2018, 09:40:34 AM
So, the decks are being cleared in the JDM for Meg 400.  Any word on what's going to start in 400 (other than Storm Warning)?
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: broodblik 21 July, 2018, 09:47:10 AM
So, the decks are being cleared in the JDM for Meg 400.  Any word on what's going to start in 400 (other than Storm Warning)?

https://www.newsarama.com/40567-rebellion-september-2018-solicitations.html (https://www.newsarama.com/40567-rebellion-september-2018-solicitations.html)
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: Dandontdare 21 July, 2018, 10:02:10 AM
So, the decks are being cleared in the JDM for Meg 400.  Any word on what's going to start in 400 (other than Storm Warning)?

https://www.newsarama.com/40567-rebellion-september-2018-solicitations.html (https://www.newsarama.com/40567-rebellion-september-2018-solicitations.html)

ooh some nice titbits there for September - Brink's coming back, as is Kingdom, and I'm very excited about Fiends of the Eastern Front 1812 - Napoleonic vampires! Also, Lawless in the Meg (yay!) and Mind Wars from Starlord in the floppies.
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: broodblik 21 July, 2018, 10:07:32 AM
........and don't forget the return of Skip Tracer  :D :D :D
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: Richard 21 July, 2018, 11:09:09 AM
Especially looking forward to Kingdom and The Torture Garden!
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: Dandontdare 21 July, 2018, 12:36:13 PM
........and don't forget the return of Skip Tracer  :D :D :D

well I've already forgotten what happened in the first one....   :lol:
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: Colin YNWA 21 July, 2018, 01:19:56 PM
There is just to look forward to in both Prog 2100 and Meg 400. As for Skip Tracer I remain optimistic that after the stumble in the first series we get a little more focus on why we should care for our lead, it it lands that we could have a good thrill on our hands and Tharg must have seen something in it to have commissioned two series back to back?
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: broodblik 22 July, 2018, 12:43:32 PM
Backed with Meg 400 is Mind Wars see also the link for more: http://www.greatnewsforallreaders.com/blog/2018/7/8/on-this-day-22-july-1978-starlord (http://www.greatnewsforallreaders.com/blog/2018/7/8/on-this-day-22-july-1978-starlord)
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: Richard 22 July, 2018, 02:18:50 PM
That's a rather spoiler-heavy review!!!
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: gameluvah 25 July, 2018, 09:01:43 PM
October solicitations are up!

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/07/25/2000ad-rebellion-solicits-october-2018/

I am all over those 13th Floor and Black Max books! Not to mention the Scream and Misty special (Dig that cover!) and the usual progs and megs.

Does anyone know what Ales Kot is writing? His stuff is really hit and miss with me.
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: Frank 01 August, 2018, 01:27:36 PM

San Diego ComicCon 2000ad Panel 2018 (https://youtu.be/e4WVW_q3Zg8?t=20m48s)

Wagner returns to Dredd in Megazine 400*

Prog 2100 sees Rob Williams & Henry Flint catch up on Judge Smiley in The Small House

Colin MacNeil replaces Paul Marshall as artist on Skip Tracer: Legion**

Ian Edginton's doing the Fiends Of The Eastern Front prequel. Explains the 19th-century setting.


* The Trouble With Harry, described as 'royal shenanigans (https://www.newsarama.com/40567-rebellion-september-2018-solicitations.html)'

** As he did on The Corps (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&choice=CORPS)
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: Bolt-01 01 August, 2018, 01:40:14 PM
Rather amusingly in Something Wicked 07 we did a 'Fiends of the Eastern Veldt' strip which involved both vampires and zombies...

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0A4kDNvN0tI/TptczRG_BII/AAAAAAAABQM/sOVTANOiZsA/s1600/FiendsOfTheEasternVeldtBLOG.jpg)

Script by the Emperor and art by Adam Bolton.

Link to the comiXology version (https://www.comixology.co.uk/Something-Wicked-7/digital-comic/570801?ref=c2VyaWVzL3ZpZXcvZGVza3RvcC9ncmlkTGlzdC9BbnRob2xvZ2llcw)
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: Proudhuff 01 August, 2018, 04:24:06 PM


Wagner returns to Dredd in Megazine 400*

Prog 2100 sees Rob Williams & Henry Flint catch up on Judge Smiley in The Small House

Colin MacNeil replaces Paul Marshall as artist on Skip Tracer: Legion**

Ian Edginton's doing the Fiends Of The Eastern Front prequel. Explains the 19th-century setting.


There's a fair bit to lift my chin there:
The Mighty W back on Dredd with Royalty  :thumbsup:
Flint on Judge Smiley, Happy Shrapnel could even make Skippy un skipable, and after Ian Edginton's  Shirley Holmes Victorian exploits, it looks like the rest of the year could be rather tasty  :D :D 
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: Frank 01 August, 2018, 04:44:30 PM
Colin MacNeil replaces Paul Marshall as artist on Skip Tracer

Happy Shrapnel could even make Skippy un skipable

It seems like MacNeil's in the same position as Massimo Belardinelli was in the late eighties; an artistic legend, hugely popular with readers, but without a regular strip to call his own.

I have a lot of goodwill for Skip Tracer - just because it's an original creation, rather than a reboot - but something tells me this isn't the end of editorial's search for a foot that fits his glass slipper.

The obvious solution would be to crown him the main artist on Dredd, so I assume MacNeil's temporarily bored of that and wants to spread his wings a little. I wish Defoe had worked out for him (and for Mills).


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: broodblik 01 August, 2018, 04:48:13 PM
Colin MacNeil replaces Paul Marshall as artist on Skip Tracer

Happy Shrapnel could even make Skippy un skipable

It seems like MacNeil's in the same position as Massimo Belardinelli was in the late eighties; an artistic legend, hugely popular with readers, but without a regular strip to call his own.

I have a lot of goodwill for Skip Tracer - just because it's an original creation, rather than a reboot - but something tells me this isn't the end of editorial's search for a foot that fits his glass slipper.

The obvious solution would be to crown him the main artist on Dredd, so I assume MacNeil's temporarily bored of that and wants to spread his wings a little. I wish Defoe had worked out for him (and for Mills).

I am just glad his back on something. I believe if he used the same style as he did on Defoe he would have been a great option on "Fiends Of The Eastern Front".

Skip Tracer I had no problem with and don't mind that it is back
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: Jim_Campbell 01 August, 2018, 07:02:48 PM
I am just glad his back on something. I believe if he used the same style as he did on Defoe he would have been a great option on "Fiends Of The Eastern Front".

He did use more or less that style on “Fiends of the Eastern Front”…!
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: gameluvah 01 August, 2018, 07:08:14 PM

San Diego ComicCon 2000ad Panel 2018 (https://youtu.be/e4WVW_q3Zg8?t=20m48s)

Wagner returns to Dredd in Megazine 400*

Prog 2100 sees Rob Williams & Henry Flint catch up on Judge Smiley in The Small House

Colin MacNeil replaces Paul Marshall as artist on Skip Tracer: Legion**

Ian Edginton's doing the Fiends Of The Eastern Front prequel. Explains the 19th-century setting.


* The Trouble With Harry, described as 'royal shenanigans (https://www.newsarama.com/40567-rebellion-september-2018-solicitations.html)'

** As he did on The Corps (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&choice=CORPS)


That all sounds really good. Is Wagner back for just the one issue? While I wasn't crazy about Skip Tracer, Colin MacNeil only makes anything better.
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: broodblik 01 August, 2018, 07:27:11 PM
I am just glad his back on something. I believe if he used the same style as he did on Defoe he would have been a great option on "Fiends Of The Eastern Front".

He did use more or less that style on “Fiends of the Eastern Front”…!

Yes I can remember it was published in Judge Dredd Megazine #245-252.
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: davidbishop 03 August, 2018, 08:13:38 PM
I am just glad his back on something. I believe if he used the same style as he did on Defoe he would have been a great option on "Fiends Of The Eastern Front".

He did use more or less that style on “Fiends of the Eastern Front”…!

Surprisingly almost competent script by David Bishop, too.
Yes I can remember it was published in Judge Dredd Megazine #245-252.
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: broodblik 03 August, 2018, 08:54:27 PM
I am just glad his back on something. I believe if he used the same style as he did on Defoe he would have been a great option on "Fiends Of The Eastern Front".

He did use more or less that style on “Fiends of the Eastern Front”…!

Surprisingly almost competent script by David Bishop, too.
Yes I can remember it was published in Judge Dredd Megazine #245-252.

It was a great script. I really enjoyed it.
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: TordelBack 03 August, 2018, 10:36:05 PM
It was a good story, but the Meg's schedule utterly killed it for me.  Just seemed to go on and on and on, much like some of (also Colin's!) Devlin Waugh of a similar era.  Reading both again in one go, it was crazy how much better they read.
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: sheridan 12 August, 2018, 11:00:04 PM
Misty Volume Three - apparently has a story about a wolf-girl, according to Newsarama (https://www.newsarama.com/40567-rebellion-september-2018-solicitations.html).  Doesn't say what the story is actually called, and doesn't have any details about the other story to be reprinted (I'm assuming that Misty Volume 3 is going to follow the format of the first two, and have two stories).
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: sheridan 12 August, 2018, 11:00:25 PM
Misty Volume Three - apparently has a story about a wolf-girl, according to Newsarama (https://www.newsarama.com/40567-rebellion-september-2018-solicitations.html).  Doesn't say what the story is actually called, and doesn't have any details about the other story to be reprinted (I'm assuming that Misty Volume 3 is going to follow the format of the first two, and have two stories).

Oh, also didn't have a publication date on that article.
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: broodblik 13 August, 2018, 05:02:26 AM
Misty Volume Three - apparently has a story about a wolf-girl, according to Newsarama (https://www.newsarama.com/40567-rebellion-september-2018-solicitations.html).  Doesn't say what the story is actually called, and doesn't have any details about the other story to be reprinted (I'm assuming that Misty Volume 3 is going to follow the format of the first two, and have two stories).

Little more details on the 200AD shop: https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/RCA-G0006 (https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/RCA-G0006)
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: broodblik 20 August, 2018, 05:40:00 PM
I see that in Prog 2100 Rob Williams and Henry Flint is doing a 10 part Dredd story together called "The Small House".
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: Colin YNWA 20 August, 2018, 09:57:17 PM
I see that in Prog 2100 Rob Williams and Henry Flint is doing a 10 part Dredd story together called "The Small House".

Saw that on Facebook - very exciting!
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: I, Cosh 21 August, 2018, 07:11:51 AM
I see that in Prog 2100 Rob Williams and Henry Flint is doing a 10 part Dredd story together called "The Small House".
Saw that on Facebook - very exciting!
Somehow I read this comment as "10 page story" the first time. Bounced out of bed, excited to share what I just read on Rob's Tweet and this is the thanks I get!

I was starting to worry that we hadn't seen Flint in the Prog or Meg for a while. This will scratch that itch for sure.
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: wedgeski 21 August, 2018, 09:13:32 AM
Do we know when book 3 of Brink will be arriving?
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: I, Cosh 21 August, 2018, 09:40:10 AM
Do we know when book 3 of Brink will be arriving?
Starts in Prog 2100.
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: wedgeski 21 August, 2018, 02:21:47 PM
Best news ever.
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: broodblik 21 August, 2018, 02:44:35 PM
Best news ever.

2000 AD PROG #2100 SPECIAL
A brand-new roster of stories start in the bumper Prog 2100! Judge Dredd finds a secret hidden beneath the rubble in “Unearthed”; cop Bridget Kurtis goes undercover to investigate cult behaviour in Brink: High Society; a new dispatch from the vampires-at-war saga Fiends of the Eastern Front in “1812,” as the action moves to the Napoleonic Wars; Skip Tracer Nolan Blake enters his brother’s mind in “Legion”; and Kingdom returns in “Alpha and Omega” as Gene the Hackman crashes back to Earth, pursued by the Masters. Plus much more!


The Dredd story mentioned above is called  "The Small House"
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: Bolt-01 21 August, 2018, 03:35:56 PM
NEW KINGDOM! YAY!
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: JOE SOAP 21 August, 2018, 09:04:05 PM

John Wagner: I’m working on 1. Season 2 of Rok of the Reds, the alien football comic with Alan Grant, Dan Cornwell, Abby Bulmer and Jim Campbell. 2. Dredd: Machine Law, a follow up to Harvey. 3. Spector, a new series for the Judge Dredd Megazine with Carlos Ezquerra.


https://downthetubes.net/?p=99897

Spector might be the previously announced reworking of the Sam Street character from the early 1980s.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2013810272224899&id=1943326612606599

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: broodblik 22 August, 2018, 05:34:41 PM
2000 AD PROG #2100 SPECIAL
A brand-new roster of stories start in the bumper Prog 2100! Judge Dredd finds a secret hidden beneath the rubble in “Unearthed”; cop Bridget Kurtis goes undercover to investigate cult behaviour in Brink: High Society; a new dispatch from the vampires-at-war saga Fiends of the Eastern Front in “1812,” as the action moves to the Napoleonic Wars; Skip Tracer Nolan Blake enters his brother’s mind in “Legion”; and Kingdom returns in “Alpha and Omega” as Gene the Hackman crashes back to Earth, pursued by the Masters. Plus much more!

Dave Taylor is going to be on art duty for Fiends of the Eastern Front with words provided by Ian Edginton
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: Dark Jimbo 22 August, 2018, 05:42:37 PM
Dave Taylor on Fiends...?! Oh my goodness. That's a marriage in heaven, right there!
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: TordelBack 22 August, 2018, 05:47:40 PM
Well this is good news!

Dave Taylor doing Napoleonic vampires.  Given his fabulously detailed settings, that could be truly amazing.

Plus Kingdom and Brink back in the same prog! Pure elation, that feeling is.

A second chance for Skip Tracer to impress is welcome as well - from that blurb, it looks like they are foregrounding the psychic dimension, which SEEMS to be the USP of the character, Deckard meets Wolfie Smith sort of thing?  TBH it was hard to tell.

Not so mad about a longish Rob Williams Dredd - while I definitely appreciate the craft and the originality of his approach, plus the Flinty goodness which adds so much, they generally aren't my thing. 

But the prospect of a follow-up to Harvey, one of my favourite recent Dredds, is something to tide me over! Fingers crossed McCrea is back on scribbles, he was fantastic on the original story.

Oh yum yum yum.
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: broodblik 22 August, 2018, 07:37:21 PM
But the prospect of a follow-up to Harvey, one of my favourite recent Dredds, is something to tide me over! Fingers crossed McCrea is back on scribbles, he was fantastic on the original story.

Oh yum yum yum.

When is this coming to the Prog ? Hopefully early next year and not later in the year.
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: Frank 23 August, 2018, 05:56:31 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/Ja4wb1n.jpg?1)

Anna Kohl - Strawberry Delight*
Daniel Calhoun - Hazelnut/Triangle Noisette
Bergerac - Toffee Penny
Armoured Gideon - Toffee Deluxe


*This guide (https://i.imgur.com/rQA9r7q.png) says Strawberry Dream, but I think it's Strawberry Delight. Probably changed the name because of bonkers and/or barmey EU bureaucrats. That's another thing we can take back next March.
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: Woolly 23 August, 2018, 06:21:48 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/Ja4wb1n.jpg?1)

Anna Kohl - Strawberry Delight


Under the wrapper of a Hazelnut Noisette, surely?
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: Frank 23 August, 2018, 07:03:34 PM
Under the wrapper of a Hazelnut Noisette, surely?

I remember Strawberry Delight having green on the wrapper at some point in the past, but I'm prepared to accept that might belong in the same category of false memory/delusion as an extra 350 million quid per week for the NHS.


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: sheridan 23 August, 2018, 07:21:53 PM
*This guide says Strawberry Dream, but I think it's Strawberry Delight. Probably changed the name because of bonkers and/or barmey EU bureaucrats. That's another thing we can take back next March.

Nah, Boris is too busy at the moment to make up any more stories right now about EU laws - keep him away from the editorship of any newspapers though, who knows what lies he'd come up with?
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: broodblik 23 August, 2018, 07:29:49 PM
Upcoming from Rebellion for the month of November:

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/08/23/rebellion-2000ad-solicits-november-2018/ (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/08/23/rebellion-2000ad-solicits-november-2018/)
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: broodblik 23 August, 2018, 07:32:59 PM
It looks like Mind Wars are planned for Meg #402
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: sheridan 23 August, 2018, 08:46:02 PM
Upcoming from Rebellion for the month of November:

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/08/23/rebellion-2000ad-solicits-november-2018/ (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/08/23/rebellion-2000ad-solicits-november-2018/)

David Hine (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=DAVIDH)?  That's after a gap of about 22 years since last contributing to the GG.
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: Colin YNWA 23 August, 2018, 08:51:50 PM
Upcoming from Rebellion for the month of November:

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/08/23/rebellion-2000ad-solicits-november-2018/ (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/08/23/rebellion-2000ad-solicits-november-2018/)

David Hine (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=DAVIDH)?  That's after a gap of about 22 years since last contributing to the GG.

In the interim done some damned fine comics elsewhere. Particularly 'Bulletproof Coffin' and 'Cowboys and Ants' both with the genius that is Shaky Kane. Lovely chap too.

Glad to have him back in Thargs bosom.
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: broodblik 26 August, 2018, 08:12:29 PM
A preview of Sniper Elite:

https://downthetubes.net/?p=100174 (https://downthetubes.net/?p=100174)
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: Cosier 29 August, 2018, 06:38:14 PM
Stumbled across this fun interview with Rufus Dayglo (https://paulhanleyblog.wordpress.com/2018/08/28/an-interview-with-rufus-dayglo-its-all-about-technique-style-is-adaptable/) in which he reveals he's working on a new series for the Galaxy's Greatest.
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: broodblik 29 August, 2018, 08:11:26 PM
Stumbled across this fun interview with Rufus Dayglo (https://paulhanleyblog.wordpress.com/2018/08/28/an-interview-with-rufus-dayglo-its-all-about-technique-style-is-adaptable/) in which he reveals he's working on a new series for the Galaxy's Greatest.

Quoted from the article "....... and I am currently drawing a new sci-fi series for 2000 AD called ‘The Devil’s Railroad’ which will be announced soon! "
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: broodblik 30 August, 2018, 03:18:32 PM
More of prog 2100:

https://www.newsarama.com/41621-tharg-recruits-george-perez-for-2000-ad.html (https://www.newsarama.com/41621-tharg-recruits-george-perez-for-2000-ad.html)
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: TordelBack 30 August, 2018, 03:58:48 PM
Stumbled across this fun interview with Rufus Dayglo (https://paulhanleyblog.wordpress.com/2018/08/28/an-interview-with-rufus-dayglo-its-all-about-technique-style-is-adaptable/) in which he reveals he's working on a new series for the Galaxy's Greatest.

Quoted from the article "....... and I am currently drawing a new sci-fi series for 2000 AD called ‘The Devil’s Railroad’ which will be announced soon! "

Also exciting in that interview,  Rufus has been drawing dinos for a Dredd boardgame due out at Christmas!
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: Colin YNWA 30 August, 2018, 09:45:12 PM
More of prog 2100:

https://www.newsarama.com/41621-tharg-recruits-george-perez-for-2000-ad.html (https://www.newsarama.com/41621-tharg-recruits-george-perez-for-2000-ad.html)

Whoops so - got carried away and gave this its own thread... I mean it deserves its own thread right?
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: broodblik 31 August, 2018, 03:57:48 AM
More of prog 2100:

https://www.newsarama.com/41621-tharg-recruits-george-perez-for-2000-ad.html (https://www.newsarama.com/41621-tharg-recruits-george-perez-for-2000-ad.html)

Whoops so - got carried away and gave this its own thread... I mean it deserves its own thread right?

I am not familiar with his work. I am always in for somebody new doing work for the prog
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: I, Cosh 10 October, 2018, 01:30:38 PM
Just this morning I was thinking to myself that it would be a shame if the current series of Brink wasn't afforded the same space to move as the second, even if that means running through the Christmas Prog. Lo and Behold.

More importantly. It seems Rennie's cryptic hints in another thread meant something exciting!
: THARG
The Galaxy's Greatest Comic rounds out another storming year with a 100-page Xmas spectacular, featuring a stunning line-up of stories and creators.
- Judge Dredd tackles a sinister Christmas spirit in 'Jingle All the Way'
- Nolan Blake has to investigate a terrorist cell in Skip Tracer: 'Louder Than Bombs'
- vampire bounty hunter Durham Red takes down a criminal gang in 'Three Gifts'
- Celtic warrior Slaine learns a little of Ukko's nefarious past in 'The Bogatyr'
- Deadworld's survivors face down Judge Fear in 'Running Scared'
- something evil lurks in the woods in new folk-horror series 'Thistlebone'
- the master cult makes its move in Brink: 'High Society'
- the vampires take to the skies above WWI France in Fiends of the Western Front
- and the supernatural series Caballistics, Inc. comes to a close with the final ever episode 'Visiting Hour.'
-  Plus much more!
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: IndigoPrime 10 October, 2018, 02:25:14 PM
And then Rebellion, while GNASHING TEETH will issue "No, really, this is TOTALLY the Complete Cabs Special Edition with knobs on", and Rennie, grinning wildly, will write another episode two months later called "another visiting hour – mwahahahaha".

Tharg really seems invested in Skip Tracer, doesn't he?
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: The Enigmatic Dr X 10 October, 2018, 03:16:45 PM
I like Skip Tracer.

I liked Synammon.

What do I know?
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: broodblik 10 October, 2018, 03:18:29 PM
I like Skip Tracer.

I liked Synammon.

What do I know?

As much as I do since I like both those stories  :D
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: norton canes 10 October, 2018, 04:35:04 PM
the supernatural series Caballistics, Inc. comes to a close with the final ever episode 'Visiting Hour.'

Yes!! (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=45053.msg978344#msg978344)
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: Colin YNWA 10 October, 2018, 04:53:00 PM
More importantly what the heck is ‘folk horror’?

Have to say there’s a lot to be excited about there.
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: Greg M. 10 October, 2018, 04:59:02 PM
More importantly what the heck is ‘folk horror’?
Blood on Satan's Claw. The Wicker Man. Rurally-set pagan horror. Summer Magic would probably qualify.
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: Pyroxian 10 October, 2018, 04:59:07 PM
More importantly what the heck is ‘folk horror’?

It's that creeping feeling up your spine when you're having a quiet pint in your local and see a bunch of hairy blokes walk in with various fiddles, guitars, and accordions...
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: Jim_Campbell 10 October, 2018, 05:02:57 PM
More importantly what the heck is ‘folk horror’?

I’m assuming that this ties in with the pen & ink drawings Simon Davies has been posting intermittently to social media under the #folkhorror tag.
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: CalHab 10 October, 2018, 05:20:40 PM
Glad to see that Jaegir is returning soon.
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: broodblik 10 October, 2018, 05:34:22 PM
Glad to see that Jaegir is returning soon.

Great news, my favorite Rogueverse arc
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: CalHab 10 October, 2018, 05:56:30 PM
It’s great. There must be a second collection due soon?
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: AlexF 10 October, 2018, 07:58:14 PM
Re: folk horror - anyone else listening to this podcast?:
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-evolution-of-horror/id1276042346 (https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-evolution-of-horror/id1276042346)

it's truly excellent; they've just finished a 17-part series on folk horror films, a diverse lot that certainly starts with the Wicker Man but manages to end with Get Out, via Deliverance and the Blair Witch Project.

If Simon Davis is painting folk horror for the Prog, it's going to be proper chilling!
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: davidbishop 11 October, 2018, 06:39:19 AM
More importantly what the heck is ‘folk horror’?

Jim Campbell, unplugged.
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: Link Prime 11 October, 2018, 12:18:02 PM
More importantly what the heck is ‘folk horror’?

My new local boozer.

Christmas Prog line-up looks great.
Will be a treat having the much missed Dom Reardon back in the Prog (assuming he is indeed returning for the final Caballistics, Inc. story).
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: CalHab 11 October, 2018, 12:35:23 PM
More importantly what the heck is ‘folk horror’?

My new local boozer.


The Slaughtered Lamb?
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: Proudhuff 11 October, 2018, 12:36:54 PM
I like Skip Tracer.

I liked Synammon.

What do I know?

Yeah but you twist another man's spoons!
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: Proudhuff 11 October, 2018, 12:38:33 PM

More importantly what the heck is ‘folk horror’?


Its that feeling you get when you see some beardy bastard climb on stage cover one ear and open their mouth
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: Link Prime 11 October, 2018, 12:52:17 PM
More importantly what the heck is ‘folk horror’?

My new local boozer.


The Slaughtered Lamb?

About 40% more 'rural'.
But they do a decent Guinness and have a fire going most nights, so just call me Doc Hollywood and be done with it.
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: SIP 11 October, 2018, 06:02:51 PM
Really pleased to get one final installment of Caballistics, one of my favourite stories in 2000ad over the last 20 years. Really hope Dom is back on it too.
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: DrJomster 11 October, 2018, 09:44:13 PM
Hadn’t realised we were in for Cabs. That would be AWESOME! Does that mean we’ll be seeing an updated Complete Digital Edition next year? Count me in!
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: IndigoPrime 13 October, 2018, 10:43:53 AM
NOM NOM NOM

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpYP4PGXoAAqLPu.jpg)
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: Tjm86 13 October, 2018, 12:02:32 PM
Posty's just dropped mine off as well.  A thing of beauty to be sure.  When Rebellion pull out the stops it really does pay off.

One thing I don't get though; how come your cover is blue?
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: Colin YNWA 13 October, 2018, 03:07:23 PM
Arh man now I'm wishing I'd ordered this.  Do you know if it collects more than the Hibernia editions?
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: moly 13 October, 2018, 03:30:45 PM
13th floor in hard back is a thing of beauty
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: IndigoPrime 13 October, 2018, 04:41:07 PM
One thing I don't get though; how come your cover is blue?
It's black. Colour cast from the light, I assume.
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: The Amstor Computer 13 October, 2018, 05:15:10 PM
Arh man now I'm wishing I'd ordered this.  Do you know if it collects more than the Hibernia editions?

Yep, should do - from memory, it will cover all of the material we reprinted plus at least another 50-ish pages. Looking forward to grabbing a copy of it when it comes out, partly from curiosity to see how Rebellion's repro droids work compares, but mainly because, well... it's the fantastic Thirteenth Floor in hardback, innit?
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: Tjm86 13 October, 2018, 06:26:46 PM
Looking forward to grabbing a copy of it when it comes out, partly from curiosity to see how Rebellion's repro droids work compares, ...

Quite favourably TBH.  Considering some of the issues we've had with some of the Mega Collection and others of this age they've done a cracking job. The Tower King and House of Daemon volumes from Hibernia stand up well against this and give a good indication of the quality of workmanship there.

 Just hope that when they get around to the next volume we get a hardback edition as well.

Can we start a campaign for Kennedy's Dan Dare run?

Colour cast from the light,

Ah ... that makes sense.
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: Jim_Campbell 13 October, 2018, 06:47:00 PM
Can we start a campaign for Kennedy's Dan Dare run?

That would require getting some kind of sense out of the Dan Dare Corporation, which is a lot harder than one might imagine from what I understand.
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: IndigoPrime 13 October, 2018, 07:06:23 PM
Jim: yep. “Would you like some free publicity in a magazine?” “How much will you pay us?” Erm...

Colin: any reason why you don’t want to buy it now? Do you already have another edition? The HC hasn’t sold out yet: https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/graphic-novels/treasury-of-british-comics/RCA-B0041
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: broodblik 13 October, 2018, 08:06:32 PM

Can we start a campaign for Kennedy's Dan Dare run?


You have my backing but as Jim said not sure if DDC will play along.
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: Colin YNWA 13 October, 2018, 09:23:41 PM
Colin: any reason why you don’t want to buy it now? Do you already have another edition? The HC hasn’t sold out yet: https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/graphic-novels/treasury-of-british-comics/RCA-B0041

I have the Hibneria edition and £20 for the extra pages feels extravagent so was going to wait for a cheaper trade... but damn it looks like a nice produce... this, Black Max, Jinty and Bella, El Mestizo round the corner... I'm trying to be more selective!
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: Greg M. 16 October, 2018, 11:40:18 AM
I have the Hibneria edition and £20 for the extra pages feels extravagent so was going to wait for a cheaper trade... but damn it looks like a nice produce... this, Black Max, Jinty and Bella, El Mestizo round the corner... I'm trying to be more selective!

Mine arrived today. It is a thing of nightmarish beauty. The additional Eagle pages, not already published by Hibernia, are truly wonderful - I'd forgotten what horrific treatment Sgt. Ingram was dealt - and of course, it features the scene I've wanted to re-read for thirty years, Max's explanation about the erasure of Bert Runch from existence.

Look closely at my screen, Jerry Colin. See the way it swirls round and round? So restful. Doesn't it make you feel relaxed? Wouldn't it be nice to just buy the hardback... buy the hardback... slowly sink into its pages...?
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: IndigoPrime 16 October, 2018, 01:04:47 PM
It's still available, Colin. It still says 'Add to basket'. Plus if you don't buy it, Max is going to hurl you into a nightmare dimension.
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: broodblik 28 October, 2018, 05:08:24 PM
Coming to 2000 AD Prog 2106… Infestinauts by Arthur Wyatt and me, featuring microscopic robots, aliens, car chases, love, loss, and hairy naked space dudes…

http://www.pyeparr.com/tag/2000ad/ (http://www.pyeparr.com/tag/2000ad/)
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: broodblik 28 October, 2018, 05:11:58 PM
Coming to 2000 AD Prog 2106… Infestinauts by Arthur Wyatt and me, featuring microscopic robots, aliens, car chases, love, loss, and hairy naked space dudes…

http://www.pyeparr.com/tag/2000ad/ (http://www.pyeparr.com/tag/2000ad/)

A sequal to a Future Shock called "Intestinauts" from prog 1822
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: Art 28 October, 2018, 07:41:38 PM
Loose stools, space bugs in the tummy, unwanted symbiotes? For more information on what Intestinauts can do for your gastric system see the informational strip in the  2018 Free Comicbook Day Prog.

https://2000ad.com/post/3389
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: Richard 28 October, 2018, 08:05:01 PM
Brilliant! I'm delighted this is happening, that was a great story.
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: broodblik 09 November, 2018, 02:58:26 PM
For all the Caballistics Inc. fans out there coming in the Christmas prog: https://2000ad.com/post/4586 (https://2000ad.com/post/4586)

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: I, Cosh 09 November, 2018, 11:05:38 PM
For all the Caballistics Inc. fans out there coming in the Christmas prog: https://2000ad.com/post/4586 (https://2000ad.com/post/4586)
As exclusively revealed in this very thread not seven weeks ago!

However, this is a genuine touch of Betegeusian class:

And there’s a treat for digital readers – fans who have previously bought the digital ‘Complete Caballistics Inc.’ edition from the 2000 AD webshop and apps, which does not contain the new concluding story, will have their digital file automatically upgraded to the new version – for free – on day of release.
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: Bolt-01 12 November, 2018, 08:09:41 AM
That's classy. #PraiseTharg.
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: broodblik 28 November, 2018, 02:57:50 AM
More about the Christmas Prog: https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/PRG2111P (https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/PRG2111P)
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: Mardroid 30 November, 2018, 12:56:12 PM
More about the Christmas Prog: https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/PRG2111P (https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/PRG2111P)

Nice! Thanks for the link! Plenty of stuff there up my street! And quite a slant towards horror too, which seems fitting for Christmas. (I don't mean that in a sarcastic way. It works for me!)
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: broodblik 30 November, 2018, 01:42:15 PM
The only thing about the Christmas prog that is not so clear is which stories will be carried over to 2019 (except Brink and Skip Tracer). Awhile ago it was mentioned a story called Thistlebone will start in prog 2111 but it has now been dropped from the roster.
 
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: I, Cosh 30 November, 2018, 03:37:55 PM
Brink is the only strip which will be running straight through. Skip Tracer starts a new story.
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: M.I.K. 30 November, 2018, 04:22:18 PM
Awhile ago it was mentioned a story called Thistlebone will start in prog 2111 but it has now been dropped from the roster.

I don't think it has. It's not mentioned in the "Episodes include" section, but it is mentioned in the text at the top.
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: broodblik 30 November, 2018, 04:31:52 PM
Got it thanks M.I.K ......something evil lurks in the woods in new folk-horror series "Thistlebone"
: Re: 2018: forthcoming thrills..
: Steve Green 30 November, 2018, 04:34:00 PM
For all the Caballistics Inc. fans out there coming in the Christmas prog: https://2000ad.com/post/4586 (https://2000ad.com/post/4586)
As exclusively revealed in this very thread not seven weeks ago!

However, this is a genuine touch of Betegeusian class:

And there’s a treat for digital readers – fans who have previously bought the digital ‘Complete Caballistics Inc.’ edition from the 2000 AD webshop and apps, which does not contain the new concluding story, will have their digital file automatically upgraded to the new version – for free – on day of release.

Nice, I've been arguing for upgrades on digital for a while now.

Would happily pay a bit extra for better scans/reinstated colour pages as and when they're done.

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: I, Cosh 22 March, 2019, 09:20:31 AM
SIKU!
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: Colin YNWA 22 March, 2019, 10:18:39 AM
SIKU!

Your livin' in the past, man.
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: Link Prime 25 March, 2019, 02:32:36 PM
SIKU!

Your livin' in the past, man.

Ain't we all?