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: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 31 December, 2018, 06:29:01 AM
Happy New Year's Eve, everyone!

I've picked the start of a new year to start a new writing project. 2000AD Thrillshots will review and explore a Volume from the Judge Dredd Mega Collection and the 2000AD Ultimate Collection, in order of the first story to appear in each Volume.

The Collections are great, and hopefully this project will provide a roughly chronological journey through a large amount of the Galaxy's Greatest Comic!

Check it out at http://thrillshots.wordpress.com, and check back every Monday for a new post.

Thanks!
Liam
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: sheridan 31 December, 2018, 01:20:45 PM
Shall keep an eye on it!
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: The Monarch 31 December, 2018, 01:31:58 PM
"do you find walter bearable" is kinda the bawwier to entwy of early judge dwedd i hate him

have bookmarked the blog
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: Vernoona 07 January, 2019, 06:15:39 AM
New post up on the blog today, Volume 53 of the Mega Collection: "Brothers of the Blood".

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/01/07/brothers-of-the-blood/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/01/07/brothers-of-the-blood/).

Also, a quick request for help! I'm using the subtitle on the back of each Volume as the title of each post, but my copy of "The Day the Law Died" printed the info for "Necropolis" instead! Can anyone who has the correct version let me know what they used for "Day"? Thanks!

(The back image for "America" is posted below so you can see which bit I mean).

(https://thrillshots.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/screen-shot-2019-01-07-at-5.12.51-pm.png)
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: Greg M. 07 January, 2019, 08:29:51 PM
An enjoyable read. A recent 'Best Dredd Stories Ever' thread saw 'Blood Cadets' make my personal top ten. It's interesting that, although John Wagner didn't come up with the 'Dredd as clone' angle, whenever he deals with it, it consistently leads to his finest work on the character.
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: Vernoona 08 January, 2019, 01:20:56 AM
Thanks Greg! There are some wonderful storylines with the clone plot - can't wait until I get to cover "Oz" and "Necropolis" in particular.
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: The Monarch 12 January, 2019, 12:51:59 PM
i was looking at my copy of the day the law died and my back copy was also necropolises i wonder if its a screwup on all versions

if it helps my gn version of it published by rebellion uses tyranny wrecks as back cover which is bloody clever
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: Vernoona 13 January, 2019, 12:06:11 AM
if it helps my gn version of it published by rebellion uses tyranny wrecks as back cover which is bloody clever

Oh that's excellent! I'll definitely use that!
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: Vernoona 14 January, 2019, 06:26:26 AM
New entry up on the blog for Judge Dredd Mega Collection #85: Tales of Ordinary Madness.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/01/14/still-crazy-tales-of-ordinary-madness/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/01/14/still-crazy-tales-of-ordinary-madness/)
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: Vernoona 21 January, 2019, 10:19:19 PM
Time to grab the Land Raider and Killdozer combo pack - new entry up on the blog for Judge Dredd Mega Collection #32: The Cursed Earth.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/01/21/the-cursed-earth/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/01/21/the-cursed-earth/)
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: The Monarch 22 January, 2019, 08:03:32 AM
am i going nuts or isn't the jimp in the law according to dredd a mutant not a robot

also isn't darkside of the moon technically before the cursed earth chronologicall....-is shot-
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: Fungus 22 January, 2019, 09:12:01 AM
am i going nuts or isn't the jimp in the law according to dredd a mutant not a robot

also isn't darkside of the moon technically before the cursed earth chronologicall....-is shot-

It's a robot.

What are you referring to with 'dark side of the moon'?
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: Dark Jimbo 22 January, 2019, 09:18:57 AM
am i going nuts or isn't the jimp in the law according to dredd a mutant not a robot

It's a robot.

He's absolutely a mutant! Don't be led astray by that chin - it's a hunk of metal he's bolted to his face to make himself look more like Dredd.
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: Fungus 22 January, 2019, 09:49:00 AM
Dang. I read that recently, too. It's a mutant  ::)
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: Vernoona 22 January, 2019, 09:56:30 AM
It is a mutant! What was I thinking?!

Regarding the Dark Side of the Moon volume, I'm going by the first story actually presented in the volume which in that case is "Darkside". A few Luna-1 stories are in there, but there towards the end of the book.
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: The Monarch 23 January, 2019, 11:21:34 AM
ohhh yeah darkside was the first story in the collection my bad
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: Vernoona 28 January, 2019, 08:02:48 AM
“A steadily escalating robot-world epic that starts in a ‘pretty crazy’ gear and ends with ‘utter insanity’”.

Review of Robo-Hunter: Volume 1 is up on the blog now.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/01/28/robo-hunter-volume-1/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/01/28/robo-hunter-volume-1/)
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: Vernoona 04 February, 2019, 07:02:33 AM
"Dredd having to go underground to fight his own people. The City under the rule of a tyrant Judge – who’s also absolutely insane. Deputy Chief Judge Fish!!"

Line up in alphabetical order and check out the new post on "The Day the Law Died".

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/02/04/the-day-the-law-died/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/02/04/the-day-the-law-died/)
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: Greg M. 04 February, 2019, 06:41:11 PM
I'd largely agree with your assessment of The Day the Law Died - it has a lot of great moments and elements, but it's not consistently a great story. It's a good story, but it's certainly not as strong as its immediate predecessor The Cursed Earth. That said, I love Cal himself enormously, even if he is just John Hurt in I, Claudius (or, with his original haircut, Pat Mills.)
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: Vernoona 04 February, 2019, 09:44:07 PM
Thanks Greg - it's a really tough one to review! A huge amount of the individual elements are some of the best Dredd ever, so it feels weird and strange to write a somewhat downbeat review of the whole thing.
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: Vernoona 11 February, 2019, 10:05:57 AM
"2000AD space nonsense at its best." Strontium Dog: Volume 1 is up on the blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/02/11/strontium-dog-volume-1/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/02/11/strontium-dog-volume-1/)
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: AlexF 11 February, 2019, 02:56:03 PM
Finally got around to having a read on your blog, and I must say it's excellent! Some real insights there, and a willingness not to just gush over how good it all is (because it isn't). I especially appreciate the effort you've taken to say at least something about every story in each collection.

I echo your frustration that the Strontium Dog volume starts with Walrogs and omits any of the StarLord stuff. not only did that have some cracking full colour art, almost all of those stories function as better introductions to the strip than Walrogs, which is fine but could easily have been left out.

Anyway,you'll be busy on this for years, so that's good news for my idle times at work...

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: Vernoona 12 February, 2019, 01:50:07 AM
Thanks Alex - I really appreciate the feedback! I try to find a balance between positive and negative, but as with everything it's all so individual what works and what doesn't.

Hope you keep enjoying the posts!

Liam
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: Vernoona 18 February, 2019, 11:07:48 PM
Noble robot warrior Hammerstein is tasked by a mysterious human officer with collecting robots for a secret mission: It's the first volume of ABC Warriors up on the blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/02/18/abc-warriors-volume-1/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/02/18/abc-warriors-volume-1/)
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: Vernoona 25 February, 2019, 09:56:03 PM
In Mega-City One, any well-organised craze catches on fast… – “Blobs”, 2000AD Prog 290.

"Crazy Town" is up on the blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/02/25/stand-out-from-the-crowd-crazy-town/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/02/25/stand-out-from-the-crowd-crazy-town/)
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: Vernoona 04 March, 2019, 09:20:39 AM
The Crime Isss Life – The Sssentence Isss Death!

"Judge Death Lives!" Is up on the blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/03/04/judge-death-lives/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/03/04/judge-death-lives/)
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: Vernoona 11 March, 2019, 11:40:54 AM

Dredd! In! Space! It’s the third Dredd mega epic. The Judge Child is up on the blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/03/11/the-judge-child/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/03/11/the-judge-child/)
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: broodblik 11 March, 2019, 01:35:02 PM
I like your reviews Vernoona, keep them up
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: Vernoona 11 March, 2019, 09:26:46 PM
Thanks broodblik, I really appreciate it!
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: Fungus 11 March, 2019, 10:33:54 PM
Enjoying these bitesize reviews. Judge Child did seem to get a bit of a kicking, and in context I might see why. But, compare to the Dark Years and it's glorious. Objectively!
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: Vernoona 12 March, 2019, 12:49:34 AM
Thanks Fungus!

I went back and forth on The Judge Child a fair bit - I even note in the review that I'm being negative and piling on! I think it's a big challenge with reviewing works like these, where you can see the story get so close to being amazing, but just not quite get there. Is it fair to judge Wagner and Grant by a higher standard? I don't know, but I definitely did here.

As with all reviews, it's all so personal. I'm sure many people like the sudden about-turn at the end, but to me it just undermined the whole story. But I can totally imagine I'll come back to this review in a couple of years and go "what was I thinking??"
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: Vernoona 18 March, 2019, 09:19:10 PM
"Reading this Volume was my first ever exposure to Nemesis, and it was a thrilling, dense, high-speed, macabre and dizzying read."

"Nemesis the Warlock: Volume 1" is up on the blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/03/18/nemesis-the-warlock-volume-1 (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/03/18/nemesis-the-warlock-volume-1)
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: Vernoona 26 March, 2019, 06:39:06 AM
"I can’t imagine there was huge fan demand for all the vaguely-ape related stories to be easily accessible in one book."

The blog takes a slight detour to look at the recent collection "Nobody Apes the Law".

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/03/25/extra-thrillshot-meet-the-primate-perps-nobody-apes-the-law/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/03/25/extra-thrillshot-meet-the-primate-perps-nobody-apes-the-law/)
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: Vernoona 01 April, 2019, 09:16:53 AM
Dredd as police procedural TV?

War on the Streets is up on the blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/04/01/urban-pacification-war-on-the-streets/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/04/01/urban-pacification-war-on-the-streets/)
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: Vernoona 08 April, 2019, 12:39:51 PM
"It’s fascinating how despite Dredd’s blunt decision to just walk away from the Judge Child mission, its legacy remains a part of his world for decades."

Krysler's Mark is up on the blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/04/08/kryslers-mark/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/04/08/kryslers-mark/)
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: Greg M. 08 April, 2019, 12:58:06 PM
Before I read this particular post, I had a bet with myself. The bet was: "City of the Damned" will be proclaimed ok, but somewhat lacking.

Yup!

There are people who absolutely love City... and in my experience, they're the ones who read it on a weekly basis. I imagine that, experienced as intended, it was pretty bloody exciting. But I didn't start reading 2000AD till a hundred progs after City... ended, and it sounds so much better as a plot summary than it actually turns out to be. Some great bits though - the "To be eyeless in hell" sequence is astounding, and about as good a summary of Dredd's character at the time as you're going to get. Overall though, it's maybe best viewed as a dry run for Necropolis, which takes the same basic concept - city becomes hell due to monstrous psychic force - and does it for real, rather than in a parallel timeline.
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: Dark Jimbo 08 April, 2019, 01:35:39 PM
Overall though, it's maybe best viewed as a dry run for Necropolis, which takes the same basic concept - city becomes hell due to monstrous psychic force - and does it for real, rather than in a parallel timeline.

I think that's it, really, isn't it? You can talk about too many artists, too few supporting characters, this-that-or the other, but at the end of the day I think it fails because it just feels a bit 'empty' - that it doesn't ultimately matter.
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: Dandontdare 08 April, 2019, 02:00:29 PM
Another good blog, I'm enjoying these - not much to add as I reckon your conclusions are pretty spot-on.
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: Vernoona 08 April, 2019, 11:48:42 PM
I'm going to have to write some truly incorrect reviews soon, just so you lose some bets! "Necropolis - yawn. So boring and terrible."

It's a really good point about the difference between reading weekly and collected, particularly these early progs. They're really not designed to be read in one big go. Makes reviews tough!

Before I read this particular post, I had a bet with myself. The bet was: "City of the Damned" will be proclaimed ok, but somewhat lacking.

Yup!

There are people who absolutely love City... and in my experience, they're the ones who read it on a weekly basis. I imagine that, experienced as intended, it was pretty bloody exciting. But I didn't start reading 2000AD till a hundred progs after City... ended, and it sounds so much better as a plot summary than it actually turns out to be. Some great bits though - the "To be eyeless in hell" sequence is astounding, and about as good a summary of Dredd's character at the time as you're going to get. Overall though, it's maybe best viewed as a dry run for Necropolis, which takes the same basic concept - city becomes hell due to monstrous psychic force - and does it for real, rather than in a parallel timeline.
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: Vernoona 08 April, 2019, 11:49:15 PM
Another good blog, I'm enjoying these - not much to add as I reckon your conclusions are pretty spot-on.

Thanks Dandontdare!
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: Vernoona 15 April, 2019, 06:58:02 AM
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Welcome back, voorms!

The journey through the Mega and Ultimate Collections continues with Strontium Dog: Volume 2.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/04/15/child-of-the-revolution-strontium-dog-volume-2/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/04/15/child-of-the-revolution-strontium-dog-volume-2/)
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: broodblik 15 April, 2019, 02:35:18 PM
I enjoy your reviews Vernoona so keep it up  :)
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: Vernoona 16 April, 2019, 08:53:18 AM
Thanks Broodblik, much appreciated!
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: Greg M. 16 April, 2019, 05:52:53 PM
The journey through the Mega and Ultimate Collections continues with Strontium Dog: Volume 2.

Portrait of a Mutant's wonderfulness is pretty much universally accepted, but by crikey, The Moses Incident has to be one of the greatest Strontium Dog tales of them all. The atmosphere of pervading dread and hopelessness - despite the wacky banter from Brood's brothers' heads - is second to none, and I'm not sure anyone has ever drawn more frightening zombies than Carlos. (He repeats the trick in the earlier parts of Judgement Day.) Does the Strontium Dog (or indeed Dredd) universe need magic? It's an interesting question - psychic powers, sure, but flat-out sorcery? Is The Moses Incident the only good use of it? (Because The Final Solution isn't particularly good - not really - and Johnny's later magical resurrection is more of a necessary evil.)
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: Vernoona 17 April, 2019, 05:10:08 AM
Yep - sorcery/mysticism is usually a huge issue for me, but I think it works here because it only really works to serve the pressure put on Johnny Alpha. It's not really about Moses's resurrection, but about what Alpha is prepared to do to atone.
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: Greg M. 17 April, 2019, 05:33:35 PM
You're right - it works because it doesn't solve the problem (or indeed even create the original problem.)
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: Leigh S 17 April, 2019, 06:54:59 PM
The Moses Incident is qite possibly my favourite Stront tale of all
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: Dandontdare 17 April, 2019, 08:41:22 PM
It is certainly a classic, although post-spacespinner2000 I will never be able to forget the potential note "Gone to see space wizard. IOU one dead kid"
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: Vernoona 22 April, 2019, 07:45:56 AM
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"A fun read that draws on a lot of familiar influences to create something pretty unique."

Rogue Trooper: Volume One is up on the blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/04/22/clone-war-rogue-trooper-volume-1/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/04/22/clone-war-rogue-trooper-volume-1/)
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: Vernoona 29 April, 2019, 03:50:45 AM
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We step back in time a bit to take a look at the weird Venn diagram of talking animals, fantasy quests and manly 1980s action heroes in Meltdown Man - up on the blog now!

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/04/29/animal-rescue-meltdown-man/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/04/29/animal-rescue-meltdown-man/)
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: Vernoona 06 May, 2019, 08:08:59 AM
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Time to pull out the Space Trucking Dictionary and attempt to translate Ace Trucking Co.: Volume One.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/05/06/tucker-truckin-ace-trucking-co-volume-one/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/05/06/tucker-truckin-ace-trucking-co-volume-one/)

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: Greg M. 06 May, 2019, 08:27:00 AM
I love Ace Garp - I think the 'get rich quick' schemer is a very under-utilised archetype in 2000AD. 'Hell's Pocket' is presumably absent due to being drawn by Ian Gibson - he's obviously a great artist, but I don't feel the series works with anyone other than Belardinelli in the jockbox. As for Ace's scarf - it's alive, all right. In fact, its status leads eventually to a rather touching pay-off.
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: Vernoona 06 May, 2019, 11:19:39 AM
I love Ace Garp - I think the 'get rich quick' schemer is a very under-utilised archetype in 2000AD. 'Hell's Pocket' is presumably absent due to being drawn by Ian Gibson - he's obviously a great artist, but I don't feel the series works with anyone other than Belardinelli in the jockbox. As for Ace's scarf - it's alive, all right. In fact, its status leads eventually to a rather touching pay-off.

He's definitely a stand-out character at this point in time for 2000 AD. Now I'm in suspense about the scarf!
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: broodblik 06 May, 2019, 02:04:27 PM
Ace Garp only works with Belardinelli
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: Vernoona 13 May, 2019, 07:27:45 AM
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It's a biggie. Thrillshots reaches "The Apocalypse War".

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/05/13/the-apocalypse-war/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/05/13/the-apocalypse-war/)
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: Vernoona 20 May, 2019, 04:54:28 AM
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Yup, it’s time for another round of robot-detective shenanigans with Sam Slade, Hoagey and Stogie in Robo-Hunter: Volume Two.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/05/20/the-song-remains-insane-robo-hunter-volume-two/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/05/20/the-song-remains-insane-robo-hunter-volume-two/)

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: Vernoona 27 May, 2019, 05:46:02 AM
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Satire is pushed to - and possibly past - the limit in this week's collection: Fast Food.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/05/27/fast-food/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/05/27/fast-food/)
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: Vernoona 27 May, 2019, 10:08:34 AM
With over 20 reviews now up, I've created a few Index pages to keep track of the posts.

By Publication Date: https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/index-by-publication-date/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/index-by-publication-date/)
By Mega Collection: https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/index-by-mega-collection/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/index-by-mega-collection/)
By Ultimate Collection: https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/index-by-ultimate-collection/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/index-by-ultimate-collection/)
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: Vernoona 03 June, 2019, 04:47:16 AM
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If there could only be one artist-focused Dredd Volume in the Ultimate Collection, it was always going to be Carlos Ezquerra.

Return of the King is your Thrillshot for this week: https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/06/03/return-of-the-king/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/06/03/return-of-the-king/)
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: Vernoona 10 June, 2019, 04:51:17 AM
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“It’s still a mad, mad, mad nu world.”

It's September 1982, and Rogue Trooper: Volume Two is up on the blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/06/10/shell-shocked-rogue-trooper-volume-2/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/06/10/shell-shocked-rogue-trooper-volume-2/)
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: Vernoona 17 June, 2019, 09:25:57 AM
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It's May 1983. Recite five of the nine sacred equations and, like, chill out man, and check out D.R. & Quinch / Skizz, now up on the Thrillshots blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/06/17/alien-antics-d-r-quinch-skizz/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/06/17/alien-antics-d-r-quinch-skizz/)
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: broodblik 17 June, 2019, 09:40:19 AM
One of my favorite humor strips D.R. & Quinch. Thanks for the review, enjoyed it.
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: Vernoona 17 June, 2019, 11:15:20 AM
Thanks broodblik!
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: Vernoona 24 June, 2019, 09:07:20 AM
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It's June 1983. It's Judge Dredd vs. Hammer Horror as we look at Famous Monsters, now up on the Thrillshots blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/06/24/famous-monsters/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/06/24/famous-monsters/)
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: Vernoona 30 June, 2019, 08:25:27 AM
So throughout the journey through the Mega and Ultimate Collections, I'll be adding in a couple of extra books/collections that seem worth covering. It's a bit easier to work out what to add to Dredd as the Mega Collection is over so we know what they didn't include. I've already covered Nobody Apes the Law (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/03/25/extra-thrillshot-meet-the-primate-perps-nobody-apes-the-law/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/03/25/extra-thrillshot-meet-the-primate-perps-nobody-apes-the-law/)), and I'll also cover:


Is there anything I else I should consider covering from the Dreddverse?

I'm going to wait until we know for sure what ends up being collected with the 2000 AD Ultimate Collection, but happy to take suggestions for additions there as well! I have both deluxe Volumes of Dan Dare and Ro-busters already, so they'll definitely be on the list.
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 01 July, 2019, 06:29:29 AM
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It's August 1983. I defy anyone not to love a story that features floating ships powered by blood-soaked magic stones battling each other in the sky. Sláine: Volume One is now up on the Thrillshots blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/07/01/the-axeman-cometh-slaine-volume-one/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/07/01/the-axeman-cometh-slaine-volume-one/)
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 08 July, 2019, 08:04:51 AM
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It's January 1984. Johnny and Wulf are on the run as we look at Strontium Dog: Volume Three.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/07/08/dog-eat-dog-strontium-dog-volume-three/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/07/08/dog-eat-dog-strontium-dog-volume-three/)
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 15 July, 2019, 09:34:29 AM
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It's March 1984. Dredd tackles ghosts, poltergeists and serial killers as we take a look at Horror Stories.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/07/15/horror-stories/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/07/15/horror-stories/)
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 22 July, 2019, 08:22:16 AM
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It's March 1984. An alien race called the Cythrons. Holes drilled in time. Ancient humanity’s encounters with the aliens. All that and more as we look at Sláine: Volume Two on the Thrillshots blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/07/22/a-race-against-time-slaine-volume-two/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/07/22/a-race-against-time-slaine-volume-two/)
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: sintec 25 July, 2019, 04:03:20 PM
in this collected form it does make for some confusion as you struggle to keep up with all the new elements.

For me, the Cythron elements are the weakest part of the story, and feel almost artificially grafted on to everything else.

Seems like you had a similar reaction to Time Killer as me (see my rants in the Ultimate Collection thread on the Announcements if you can be bothered to hunt for them). I felt like he'd run out of ideas for good Slaine plots but didn't want to roll up a new character so hammered them all in here with a crowbar.

Gonna try a slower re-read at some point in the future and see if that works better.  But so far (not got vol 5 yet) this was the weakest Slaine story for me.
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: TordelBack 25 July, 2019, 04:53:15 PM
Great read Vernoona, thanks!  I could happily live without having ever heard of the Cythrons, Leysers or El-Worlds, but it's not entirely fair to say that all the SF elements dumped on us in Time Killer were unprecedented - as I never seem to tire of harping on about, time-travel and its connection to the Drunes is right there on the very first page of Slaine, and it's also far from alien from Celtic myth. The Ever-living Ones of Dinas Emrys are referenced several times in the early part of the strip, the technological harnessing of Earth-power and Atlantis gets a nod too.   

Mills definitely takes us away very abruptly from what we've learnt to love about the series, the dream-time wanderings of a properly European Conan drawn with a deep sense of landscape and cultural context by Bellardinelli and McMahon, and places us in the larger vaguely Moorcockian world that surrounds and supports it.  I hated it all passionately at the time, right up to Slaine's Professor Hulk moment in the arena, when it starts to get interesting - but I've come round to the idea that this cross-time antediluvian techno-fantasy is as much a part of modern myths of the imagined past as anything else in the strip, and was in any event always hidden in the background. The shift in Slaine's consciousness (however temporary!), and ours, was an essential stage in his story. 

Keep up the reviews, they're great.
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: JayzusB.Christ 26 July, 2019, 02:19:25 PM
They are indeed hugely enjoyable reviews.  In more mature rereading I kind of agree that the sci fi thing feels a wee bit sudden and strays somewhat from what I really like about the strip, but at the time I was a kid and I loved it.  Aliens, laser guns; sorry, leyser guns; and violence.  Just what the doctor ordered.

That said, one of my earliest memories is of the first episode ever; in particular my dad telling my brother and me how to pronounce Sláine  (but let's not go there) and my brother gleefully recreating the 'Eat it all up!' scene.

: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Greg M. 26 July, 2019, 02:46:28 PM
Aliens, laser guns; sorry, leyser guns; and violence.  Just what the doctor ordered.

Yeah - you often see people complaining about the leysers or talking about Time Killer as a low point, and fair enough, but I think it's an enormously enjoyable science-fantasy conceit and, frankly, I reckon it gives the series a real lift. It's a heretical opinion, but this is where Slaine really starts for me. Time Killer itself is still a bit long - I prefer Tomb of Terror - but it's a riotously mental collision of loopy Mills-ian ideas.
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: broodblik 26 July, 2019, 02:47:06 PM
I agree with that the reviews are enjoyable. My first encounter with Slaine was "Time Killer". I still have fond memories of this story and I will rate this along-side "The Horned God" as my all time favorite Slaine tales.
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Dandontdare 26 July, 2019, 10:34:08 PM
Vernoona absolutely nails my opinion of Timekiller:
A prologue page throws more information at the reader than entire previous stories. An alien race called the Cythrons. Holes drilled in time. Ancient humanity’s encounters with the aliens. The next few pages give us Diluvials. Leyser guns. All in the first episode.

As someone who'd always been into SF but, at that time, was also getting into Tolkein, Moorcock and D&D, Slaine had been a real highlight -sword & sorcery through the unique lens of 2000ad - but I didn't recognise this weird scifi hybrid (I shuddered with disdain at "ley-ser" when I was a child, and it still repels me, despite my usual love of puns), though to be fair Mills then steered the storyline round magnificently with tomb of teror and slaine the king.

Nowadays I'm afraid I just regard Slaine as a frame to hang some truly beautiful pictures on - Pat hasn't had anything interesting to say with the character for some time, but my god, Clint Langley and Simon Davis have given us some absolutely jaw-dropping images over Pat's thin storylines
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: Frank 26 July, 2019, 11:09:46 PM
Nowadays I'm afraid I just regard Slaine as a frame to hang some truly beautiful pictures on - Pat hasn't had anything interesting to say with the character for some time, but my god, Clint Langley and Simon Davis have given us some absolutely jaw-dropping images over Pat's thin storylines

Longest-running 2000ad Series

Judge Dredd
ABC Warriors
Slaine
Judge Anderson
Indigo Prime
Devlin Waugh
Durham Red
Sinister Dexter


I'll concede that Pat Mills Slaine isn't as good as John Wagner Dredd, but everything else on that list? Seems like much of a muchness to me, but opinions are opiniony.

Slaine should have finished years ago, but then so should all the others.

Like all good-hearted people, I think the premise and tech upgrade of Time Killer are ridiculous but that the strip itself is more fun than zorbing with Jameela Jamil.


: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Leigh S 27 July, 2019, 12:01:28 AM
Coount me in for having my Time Killed!  It's a bit of an abrupt change, could maybe have done with a tale to set up the transition, but the ideas are pure Mills magic and make Slaine more than the sum of its Celtic Conan parts
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Dandontdare 27 July, 2019, 01:19:57 AM
Damn you Frank!

I was composing a witty, cogent comeback about how most of those strips are irrelevant to the argument, but now all I can think about is zorbing with Jameela Jamil
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: broodblik 27 July, 2019, 04:55:23 AM
Nowadays I'm afraid I just regard Slaine as a frame to hang some truly beautiful pictures on - Pat hasn't had anything interesting to say with the character for some time, but my god, Clint Langley and Simon Davis have given us some absolutely jaw-dropping images over Pat's thin storylines

Unfortunately so true. It almost feels like Pat is just recycling the same story does not matter the character(s). I am looking forward to the upcoming Defoe and hopefully the new Slaine story that is in the wings are something different and new.
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 27 July, 2019, 10:35:38 PM
Thanks for all the feedback everyone! As a relative newbie to 2000 AD every time I post I’m worried I’ve missed something / not got the context of something. It seems like Time Killer was a big swerve even at the time though!

Pat Mills will obviously feature a lot in the blog, and I find him an absolutely fascinating writer. Even if I dislike the structural move with the story here, as has been pointed out it’s still so much bonkers fun that it’s impossible not to enjoy the ride anyway!
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 27 July, 2019, 10:43:20 PM
Great read Vernoona, thanks!  I could happily live without having ever heard of the Cythrons, Leysers or El-Worlds, but it's not entirely fair to say that all the SF elements dumped on us in Time Killer were unprecedented - as I never seem to tire of harping on about, time-travel and its connection to the Drunes is right there on the very first page of Slaine, and it's also far from alien from Celtic myth. The Ever-living Ones of Dinas Emrys are referenced several times in the early part of the strip, the technological harnessing of Earth-power and Atlantis gets a nod too.   


Thanks for that information TordelBack - it’s all definitely seeded as you say. The Celtic background throughout the strip is fascinating!
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: Funt Solo 28 July, 2019, 08:57:02 AM

It's May 1983. Recite five of the nine sacred equations and, like, chill out man, and check out D.R. & Quinch / Skizz, now up on the Thrillshots blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/06/17/alien-antics-d-r-quinch-skizz/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/06/17/alien-antics-d-r-quinch-skizz/)

Perhaps obvious, but Skizz is also influenced by Alan Bleasdale’s show Boys from the Blackstuff: in particular Cornelius seems based on Yosser Hughes (played by Bernard Hill, now famous as King Theoden).
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 29 July, 2019, 12:19:19 AM

It's May 1983. Recite five of the nine sacred equations and, like, chill out man, and check out D.R. & Quinch / Skizz, now up on the Thrillshots blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/06/17/alien-antics-d-r-quinch-skizz/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/06/17/alien-antics-d-r-quinch-skizz/)

Perhaps obvious, but Skizz is also influenced by Alan Bleasdale’s show Boys from the Blackstuff: in particular Cornelius seems based on Yosser Hughes (played by Bernard Hill, now famous as King Theoden).

Thanks Funt Solo! The background material in the Volume mentions that connection - I'll have to add Boys from the Blackstuff to my "must watch eventually" list!
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 29 July, 2019, 08:58:37 AM
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It's July 1984. A young woman is about to head out on a shopping trip, and change sci-fi stories forever. The Ballad of Halo Jones is now up on the Thrillshots blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/07/29/journey-into-the-unknown-the-ballad-of-halo-jones/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/07/29/journey-into-the-unknown-the-ballad-of-halo-jones/)
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Lorenzo 29 July, 2019, 09:10:04 AM
Perhaps obvious, but Skizz is also influenced by Alan Bleasdale’s show Boys from the Blackstuff: in particular Cornelius seems based on Yosser Hughes (played by Bernard Hill, now famous as King Theoden).

Yosser also makes a one off appearance in Leviathan!:

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: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: IndigoPrime 29 July, 2019, 10:40:41 AM
The thread pointing out that early Sláine was far more batshit is interesting. The King was arguably the turning point, when the strip headed into a more grounded take on those old legends. As for the more recent stuff, bar one hideous scene that Mills said wasn’t his idea anyway, I did like Books of Invasions. It wasn’t bonkers, but it did feel (alone with The Wanderer) like a return to form.

The Brutania Chronicles: A Simple Killing, though, was the really big surprise for me. Refreshing new art. Oddball ideas. A sense of unexplainable weirdness and mystery that echoed Mignola. But then it all went to crap in the subsequent books that too often felt like a scene was stretched across multiple Progs, combined with a Scooby Doo-style loop on repeat.
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 05 August, 2019, 09:12:02 AM
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It's August 1984. No-one writes a blog about this collection lessen I tells them they can! Mean Machine is up on the Thrillshots blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/08/05/buttin-man-mean-machine/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/08/05/buttin-man-mean-machine/)
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: davidbishop 05 August, 2019, 01:37:05 PM
IIRC, the Mean Streets tale was from a Dredd Mega-Special themed around alternate versions of characters - think Elseworlds, What If?, Unbound, that kind of thing. Hence the random strangeness!
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 05 August, 2019, 01:53:50 PM
IIRC, the Mean Streets tale was from a Dredd Mega-Special themed around alternate versions of characters - think Elseworlds, What If?, Unbound, that kind of thing. Hence the random strangeness!

Ah, that makes sense - thanks Mr Bishop! The artwork on that one is beautiful.
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: Dark Jimbo 05 August, 2019, 02:02:28 PM
Huh! I always assumed that when people mentioned 'Mean Streets' they meant a certain episode of Mean's solo adventures that I read in the Megazine in the early 2000's. Turns out that was actually 'Butt Me Deadly' - a completely different Mean-as-a-noir-gumshoe-with-no-explanation strip...!  :lol:

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: IndigoPrime 05 August, 2019, 03:06:18 PM
I could’ve done without both of these collections, TBH. #26 was a rough ride, and even the classic Dredd tale (Dredd Angel) isn’t one of the best. Then Fallen Angels was a pretty awful way to round out the original run. Angelic is pretty good, albeit a short reboot. The rest varied between being just about readable and abject tosh (did anyone really need a run of Harke & Burr in hardback?)
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: sintec 05 August, 2019, 04:43:46 PM
Then Fallen Angels was a pretty awful way to round out the original run. Angelic is pretty good, albeit a short reboot. The rest varied between being just about readable and abject tosh (did anyone really need a run of Harke & Burr in hardback?)

I hadn't looked at the original release order of these before having acquired my copies via ebay; wow those last half dozen books on the pre-extension Mega Collection run really were a rough ride.  With the exception of Chopper I could have lived without the majority of that.  Stars Of Psi-Division was utter tosh (it's a contender for the worst book in the run imo) and most of Weird Science was pretty forgettable. Mega City Underworld and Armitage are better but were hardly essential reading.  A rough 3 months.
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: IndigoPrime 05 August, 2019, 05:23:11 PM
I was thinking in terms of the tail end of the volumes rather than the release order. Then again, the suggestion was the Dredd run was initially 60, and later expended to 80, and then 90. But, yeah, even in release order, those final ten books were quite the mix, in terms of quality.
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 05 August, 2019, 10:13:54 PM
Huh! I always assumed that when people mentioned 'Mean Streets' they meant a certain episode of Mean's solo adventures that I read in the Megazine in the early 2000's. Turns out that was actually 'Butt Me Deadly' - a completely different Mean-as-a-noir-gumshoe-with-no-explanation strip...!  :lol:

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"Butt Me Deadly" is such a great title!
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 05 August, 2019, 10:17:21 PM
Then Fallen Angels was a pretty awful way to round out the original run. Angelic is pretty good, albeit a short reboot. The rest varied between being just about readable and abject tosh (did anyone really need a run of Harke & Burr in hardback?)

I hadn't looked at the original release order of these before having acquired my copies via ebay; wow those last half dozen books on the pre-extension Mega Collection run really were a rough ride.  With the exception of Chopper I could have lived without the majority of that.  Stars Of Psi-Division was utter tosh (it's a contender for the worst book in the run imo) and most of Weird Science was pretty forgettable. Mega City Underworld and Armitage are better but were hardly essential reading.  A rough 3 months.

There's definitely some 'filler', shall we say, material in some blocks of the Collection. I've got about 30 of the 90 I've never read so I'm looking forward to tackling them. My general experience has been that even in Volumes I haven't liked overall there's been a gem hiding in there somewhere.

Yeah, Stars of Psi-Division... I read that last year. I'm already wondering if I can just write the review from memory rather than having to re-read the whole thing! Mind you, even there, I have an abiding love for Adrian Salmon's art so it's not a total loss!
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: TordelBack 06 August, 2019, 08:07:18 AM
That's some sweet scribbling on that alt.Mean page of-which-I-have-no-memory!  Looks like early Goddard and Teague? 
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Dark Jimbo 06 August, 2019, 08:32:26 AM
That's some sweet scribbling on that alt.Mean page of-which-I-have-no-memory!  Looks like early Goddard and Teague?

Goddard pencils and Lee Townsend inks, apparently, although I'd have guessed Teague, too.
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 12 August, 2019, 11:19:29 AM
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It's October 1984, and time for three wildly different takes on the Cursed Earth in Cursed Earth Carnage.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/08/12/the-wild-wild-west-cursed-earth-carnage/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/08/12/the-wild-wild-west-cursed-earth-carnage/)
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 19 August, 2019, 04:47:23 AM
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Don't gnaw the claw, good buddy! It's August 1982, and the crew of the Speedo Ghost are back for their second - and final - set of adventures in Ace Trucking Co.: Volume Two.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/08/19/aces-high-ace-trucking-co-volume-two/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/08/19/aces-high-ace-trucking-co-volume-two/)
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: sheridan 25 August, 2019, 10:52:06 AM
IIRC, the Mean Streets tale was from a Dredd Mega-Special themed around alternate versions of characters - think Elseworlds, What If?, Unbound, that kind of thing. Hence the random strangeness!


The Alternity Special?
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: sheridan 25 August, 2019, 11:18:27 AM
Seems like you had a similar reaction to Time Killer as me (see my rants in the Ultimate Collection thread on the Announcements if you can be bothered to hunt for them). I felt like he'd run out of ideas for good Slaine plots but didn't want to roll up a new character so hammered them all in here with a crowbar.


The thing is, he clearly hadn't run out of ideas for Sláine as there were all those loose threads that would be continued in Sláine the King and resolved in The Horned God - some of which were begun on the very first page of the first episode in Prog 330.  I think a more accurate explanation for the Cythron diversion could be that Uncle Pat has a tendency to put whatever the latest theories he's been reading about into his current stories.  If Finn had been around a few years earlier then perhaps we'd have had different Sláine stories in between Dragonheist and The Gates of Anwwn (or whatever it's called).  And if Diceman hadn't existed then the Cauldron of Blood may have been introduced in an entirely different way.
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 26 August, 2019, 08:13:59 AM
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It's October 1984. Things get personal for Nemesis and Torquemada as we take a look at Nemesis the Warlock: Volume Two.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/08/26/rule-britannia-nemesis-the-warlock-volume-two/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/08/26/rule-britannia-nemesis-the-warlock-volume-two/)
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 26 August, 2019, 08:15:00 AM

The thing is, he clearly hadn't run out of ideas for Sláine as there were all those loose threads that would be continued in Sláine the King and resolved in The Horned God - some of which were begun on the very first page of the first episode in Prog 330.  I think a more accurate explanation for the Cythron diversion could be that Uncle Pat has a tendency to put whatever the latest theories he's been reading about into his current stories.  If Finn had been around a few years earlier then perhaps we'd have had different Sláine stories in between Dragonheist and The Gates of Anwwn (or whatever it's called).  And if Diceman hadn't existed then the Cauldron of Blood may have been introduced in an entirely different way.

Mills certainly displays a certain 'restlessness' with many of his series (ABC Warriors is an even better example of this). If he wants to make a change, he doesn't gradually build to it, but just makes it happen.
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: sintec 27 August, 2019, 01:27:56 PM
I think a more accurate explanation for the Cythron diversion could be that Uncle Pat has a tendency to put whatever the latest theories he's been reading about into his current stories.  If Finn had been around a few years earlier then perhaps we'd have had different Sláine stories in between Dragonheist and The Gates of Anwwn (or whatever it's called).  And if Diceman hadn't existed then the Cauldron of Blood may have been introduced in an entirely different way.

Yeah I think that's probably more accurate.
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Dark Jimbo 28 August, 2019, 05:19:02 PM
This story ends up featuring the ABC Warriors, the return of Mek-Quake from Ro-busters, a Mega-City One Judge and – inevitably – the return of the worst lizard of the them all, Satanus… These are all fun additions to the story, but there’s a slight sense that Mills is losing control of the story a bit. “The Vengeance of Thoth” ends up feeling very much like a middle section, getting pieces into place before the next Book – Nemesis and Torquemada forced to be allied, the chase through the time wastes set up, and so on.

I'd never really thought about Book V that way, but you're absolutely right. It's all over the place! So many fun elements but no clear sense of where the overall story's heading. Torquemurder works much better by slowing things down a bit and having a much stronger focus.
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Greg M. 28 August, 2019, 05:40:47 PM
It's all over the place!

Pretty much exactly what makes it the (second) best book of Nemesis.
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 02 September, 2019, 08:23:11 AM
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It's November 1984. To pretend to be a regular citizen in Mega-City One, you have to be a little crazy. Walk on the wild side as Undercover Brothers goes up on the Thrillshots blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/09/02/cops-or-criminals-undercover-brothers/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/09/02/cops-or-criminals-undercover-brothers/)
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 09 September, 2019, 06:47:19 AM
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It's June 1985. We take a deeper look at Marlon Shakespeare as Chopper goes onto the Thrillshots blog.

https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/09/09/surf-or-die-chopper/ (https://thrillshots.wordpress.com/2019/09/09/surf-or-die-chopper/)
: Re: 2000AD Thrillshots - Reviewing the Mega and Ultimate Collections
: Vernoona 16 September, 2019, 04:21:04 AM
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It's July 1985. Tragedy strikes close to home as we rejoin Johnny and Wulf for Strontium Dog: Volume Four.

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