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Off Topic / Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« on: 06 June, 2019, 12:33:32 pm »
Jim, tried to send you a message!

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Off Topic / Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« on: 05 June, 2019, 07:00:18 pm »
Right, I'm going back to lurking on the forum now.......this appears to be going nowhere but down.

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Off Topic / Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« on: 05 June, 2019, 06:59:05 pm »
That's fairly clear cut though isn't it? The "weaselly" response if fairly easy to take offence to. You being offended appears to be due to your enduring interpretation, despite my attempts at clarification, of a subtext that I have stated was not there. So, what are you offended by?

I thought we were letting this go?

I tried that, and I got that "jeez" comment. So, apparently we didn't. Then you indicated that you were offended by something I had said. And here we are..   

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Off Topic / Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« on: 05 June, 2019, 06:52:53 pm »


"Again, though, I'm struggling to work out how you taking offense at what I wrote is my fault, but my taking offence at what you wrote is also my fault."

That's fairly clear cut though isn't it? The "weaselly" response if fairly easy to take offence to. You being offended appears to be due to your enduring interpretation, despite my attempts at clarification, of a subtext that I have stated was not there. So, what are you offended by?


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Off Topic / Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« on: 05 June, 2019, 06:34:54 pm »
As I pointed out, perhaps it was not the right thread to post it, it felt pertinent at the time in light of other general comment. But, can we have a cessation of hostilities please? Life is short, and it's been a long day.

Jeez. How many times do I have to say it's done? It's done, Si. There are no hostilities.

Sorry Jim, but I haven't been back on here since last night and since then you appear to have made comments above that continued to call my intentions into question, including that you think I was making a personal attack on you.....am I supposed to just ignore those and NOT discuss them?

Am I missing the post where we agreed that it was resolved?

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Off Topic / Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« on: 05 June, 2019, 06:07:49 pm »
I am writing on a mobile phone, so unfortunately do not have ease of putting quotes into my response, my apologies.

Jim, timeout please.

My initial post was a general comment, as I have already indicated , the comment was intentionally NOT directed at individuals. I felt (and still feel) that I clearly stated that.

The intention was to raise my perception that the board had become more intolerant and confrontational than it had in my previous experience. Not that it had degenerated into a terrible place, but that it was less hospitable than it had been. My hope from making the comment would be that everyone took time to consider the tone and content of their replies. Clearly most people already do. Again, this is not intended as a barbed comment!

I would assert that using "weaselly" as a word to describe your interpretation of my comments in a direct reply to me is inflammatory, and I'm hoping that you will see that on reflection. "Evasive" would have been the better choice. To say that someone's reply is employing a weaselly approach does suggest/infer that they are themself a weasel. If that was not the inference, fair enough.

Nonetheless, I was not attempting to be evasive. As I have already said, I had no desire to single people out or take part in a witch hunt on a public forum. If I had an issue that I felt I needed to address with someone, then I would take that up with the individual via the messaging system here, and I hope others would do the same if they had something to raise with me.

I don't have "beef" with anyone here, but again, I can't help how some comments are perceived. What I can assure you is that I consider my comments carefully before posting and  make every effort that I can to be civil, fair and measured.


As I pointed out, perhaps it was not the right thread to post it, it felt pertinent at the time in light of other general comment. But, can we have a cessation of hostilities please? Life is short, and it's been a long day.

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Off Topic / Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« on: 04 June, 2019, 10:24:22 pm »
Does insulting me twice somehow further the debate Jim? As I said, the comments were intended as transparent, no hidden subtext was intended whether you found it there or not.

Perhaps this was not the thread to raise my point, but it appeared to be pertinent in the context of the other replies posted.

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Off Topic / Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« on: 04 June, 2019, 10:06:52 pm »
I'm not looking to fire shots off at anyone personally, Jim.

That’s a pretty weaselly way of saying “yes”, Si. Since this entire thread is more or less about my behaviour, and you chose to add a post about people behaving badly, there is inference invited to connect the two. I don’t think that’s fair, which is why I asked the question. If the answer was “no” then saying so wouldn’t have been “firing of shots”, would it?

Jim, I don't have the power to influence how you choose to interpret my posts, could have done without the "weaselly" comment though.

I think my comment was transparent and could be alternately expressed as "naming no names", as I don't see it as constructive to call individuals out on a public forum. I wanted to take the opportunity to express my current view on the atmosphere (sometimes) of the forum and, as I pointed out, this discussion is "not entirely unrelated" to that discussion.

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Off Topic / Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« on: 04 June, 2019, 09:37:25 pm »
To be fair, it has always had that edge to varying degrees, but I feel like I have witnessed more people getting cut down (especially newer people) over the last year.

By me?

I'm not looking to fire shots off at anyone personally, Jim.

I've been here for 14 years now and have found the general tone has moved increasingly towards condescension and passive-aggressiveness. I'm rarely here anymore as a result as honestly, I generally feel unwelcome (and it's entirely possible that's just my perception).

Maybe people need to be more measured in their responses and altogether more tolerant of opinions that may not be their own.

No doubt part of the problem is also the shorthand and understanding that exists between a group of people who know each other very well.

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Off Topic / Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« on: 04 June, 2019, 09:10:28 pm »
On a not entirely unrelated note, I have found the forum an increasingly confrontational and "cliquey" place over the last year. You expect clique, but hope for a little more tolerance. Expressing an opinion or preference here can occasionally feel like sticking your head above the parapet.

To be fair, it has always had that edge to varying degrees, but I feel like I have witnessed more people getting cut down (especially newer people) over the last year.

In my opinion. For what that's worth.

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I always saw Henry Flint as 100% McMahon influenced, not eally Ezquerra.

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Film & TV / Re: Game of Thrones: the last series [SPOILERS]
« on: 30 May, 2019, 08:13:55 am »
I think this will end up sort of like Fullmetal Alchemist.Once the final book is done,we will get a more faithful adaptation and this will just be remembered as weird fanfiction.

IF you ever see those books......at the current rate of production Martin would be pushing 80 by the time the next two have been released.....and that's assuming he can finish it in two books . I wouldn't say the odds were great.

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News / Re: Strontium Dog Without Wagner or Ezquerra
« on: 22 May, 2019, 09:02:42 pm »
For clarity, as in another fantastic drawing.

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News / Re: Strontium Dog Without Wagner or Ezquerra
« on: 22 May, 2019, 08:30:50 pm »
Two of my favourites drawing Strontium Dog this week! Fantastic.


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News / Re: Strontium Dog Without Wagner or Ezquerra
« on: 21 May, 2019, 03:49:39 pm »
That's fantastic.  If I saw a "thrills of the future" in the prog with THAT picture......I'd be really looking forward to it.

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