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Film & TV / Re: Prometheus
« on: 16 July, 2012, 10:42:24 pm »
Honestly - if you need to do the intellectual back-flips you're doing right now to justify the movie, then it is not a good movie.
As I said: it'll be on the same list as Battlefield Earth sooner rather than later.

Couldn't agree more. The apologists would have you believe that 'Blade Runner and Alien got bad reviews on release because they went over critic's heads, it's the same for Prometheus, it'll be recognised for the classic it is in years to come'

I think completely the opposite - once the hype dies down, a lot of people are finally going to open their eyes to what a Phantom Menace-esque load of nonsense it is.

I take it that I look like a apologist? What I react to the most is the fact that just because I liked some bits of the film it's portrayed like I'v said "nay sayers are wrong, it's a classic.". I'd say I give it about 2 tits out of 5.

It's like the fact that I really like the pod race in Star Wars episode 1 The Phantom Mayonnaise, but that doesn't mean I'v said "I love this movie entirely" now does it?
I don't think it's an overall good movie, but I don't see the importance in harshly telling people off about the opposite and trying to rise a mob against a movie you don't like.

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Film & TV / Re: Prometheus
« on: 16 July, 2012, 10:31:55 pm »
Honestly - if you need to do the intellectual back-flips you're doing right now to justify the movie, then it is not a good movie.
As I said: it'll be on the same list as Battlefield Earth sooner rather than later.

I haven't stated that I loved every bit of this movie just because I don't dislike it as much as some do.

I have admitted that while I like the ideas it brings to the table, but I'v also said it's a very flawed movie. It's certainly not in any length good as Alien or Blade Runner, at least not for me (or you either)

Who knows, a theory about why some doesn't 100% dislike the movie could be based on the fact that Noomi Rapace and Charlize Theron is in it?

And mostly I just watch movies. Some theories on "how is this possible?" may arise, but it's not like my life is depending on it. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to find joy in Star wars, black and white space operas or Zardoz wouldn't I ;) ?

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Film & TV / Re: Prometheus
« on: 16 July, 2012, 10:12:39 pm »
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And I think that's an interesting perspective, which I also think becomes more powerful since you as a film goer is left with the same questions as Shaw.

Not unless her question was "Why did I just waste two hours of my life on this?" ;)

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Do you for example know where they got it in the first Alien film?
Sorry, I don't get what you're saying. Are you saying that they are on the planet at the behest of The Company? If so, this doesn't make sense either, as they land on a different planet than the one in Prometheus.

Ha, you almost got -me- a point there ;)

No. I know it's two entirely different planets, different companies and that it's 30years between the films in the universe. I just pointed out that the first alien film gives every detail either, and for me that doesn't matter if I'm not entirely in the loop on how or why they found the aliens. Weyland says that he brought Shaw and her boyfriend with them because they where believers. I don't think they made a break in discovering the planet, they where just "a crew" as the one in alien, to hide what really was going on.

But then. It's been a while since I saw it. And the memory of it has cooled down a bit thanks to that Dark Knight Rises has it's premier in just a week. I could have another take/opinion about it if/when I watch Prometheus again.

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Film & TV / Re: Prometheus
« on: 16 July, 2012, 10:01:53 pm »
Shaw is a beliver in the christian God . . .

. . . Yet, as a Christian, she didn't seem at all bothered or perturbed that her whole belief system was at best . . . wrong.

Well, not many christians seems to bother at all that science often seem like it doesn't have anything to do with any god. But that's not the point I think, I believe that to be that she's a seeker, believing in god for her could both be since her father was a priest or just a way of think that someone or something created humans. God or not, she wants to know why we where to be.
Which a lot people seems to want to know.

Me myself, I think/hope we're glorified monkeys.

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Books & Comics / Re: The 3rd Strontium Dog files, a good start?
« on: 16 July, 2012, 09:37:55 pm »
Also that "epic revenge" isn't so epic if you haven't come to know the characters.

You sure? I think Sternhammer is just like norweigans are in general. And I "know" a quite few of those ;)

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Books & Comics / Re: The 3rd Strontium Dog files, a good start?
« on: 16 July, 2012, 09:35:04 pm »
It'll be a tough gamble between the two, and who knows -could buy both ;)

I'v already read that Johnny tells Max some bad ass words before effing him (it's hard not to come by spoilers on the internets...) but still, I'd really like to read it. Johnny seems like a damn charismatic character and Wulf seems like good fun, and a fine character to avenge.

But let's say I'll start of with 2,3 or both, the first one seems to be quite good. But the fourth one then? I'v read that it lacks a bit since there's no Wulf. And the end of Johnny (the internets took that away from me too obviously  :lol:) isn't as great as it should have been?

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Film & TV / Re: Prometheus
« on: 16 July, 2012, 09:18:43 pm »

The example you use of David's behaviour is a prime example of how bad this movie is. You can see no reason for it because there is not one. It does no make sense, no matter which way you look at it.

I'm assuming you mean his claim that it is a military research base? What I'd like to know is how did he know this? Where could he have possibly got this information? And if it is true, then why did the aliens have drawings in caves pointing to a secret base and not their home planet?

I don't think this will make you any happier about the film but, here's my take.

You remember David talking to Peter Weyland? When Meredith asked David what Peter said to him, he replied: "Try harder.". The reason behind this was that the engineers where dead, and they needed something, so David tried out the black goo to see if it lead somewhere.:

And it wasn't stated where they got the information from. Do you for example know where they got it in the first Alien film?

I think the lack of answers to some of things in the film is one of it's strengths. Mostly because Shaw is a beliver in the christian God, and to do that she loves something that the bible states as something you should fear, something that creates and something that destroys.
And I think that's an interesting perspective, which I also think becomes more powerful since you as a film goer is left with the same questions as Shaw.

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Books & Comics / The 3rd Strontium Dog files, a good start?
« on: 16 July, 2012, 08:59:07 pm »
Hi!

I'v read some about Strontium Dog, and checked some preview pages and what not, and I was thinking that this looks like a book with some good fun in it.
But I was thinking of starting with one book. And based on reviews, the third one seems to pack some good story (vikings, helicopters and epic revenge.).

So is that a good start?

I'v read that the first book is a bit like the Dredd files, good one offs but no epics. The second one got some good reviews and looks interesting to, where Johnny becomes a revolutionary leader, but still not up there sci fi-western wise as having vikings and drokkin helicopters on the same page!!

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Books & Comics / Re: How big are the "new" Dredd case files?
« on: 15 July, 2012, 12:49:55 pm »
Thanks!

Then I'll probably buy both with the second case files collection, files 2 for cursed & law died and 5 for apo war.

I love the designs of the US ones, minimalistic yet striking.

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Books & Comics / How big are the "new" Dredd case files?
« on: 15 July, 2012, 12:07:46 pm »
Hi!

I'v got some of the Dredd Case files, and it hit me that I don't have the one containing Apocalypse war. The number 5.

And now when I checked the internetz I found that the most common one is what belive an american version, this one


which looks, in my opinion, a lot better than the european(?) purple one



So, colors aside. Is it as big too? I'm thinking of buying it, but I want it to be as big as the orgin. case files.

Big as in the size of the book, not the number of pages.

The same goes with The day the law died and The cursed earth saga. These editions



They aren't some sort of pocket variants are they? Small ones. Because I like them as big books :)

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Film & TV / Re: Last movie watched...
« on: 15 July, 2012, 11:53:20 am »
I saw Kubrick's The Killing and Huston's Asphalt Jungle to other night. Great films, especially The killing. The pun of the time he'd get for robbing small vs large dollars really summed it up beautifully in the end: "Eh what's the difference" haha.

And I just saw Pi. Quite mad with great photo. A work of art. For me it felt more interesting than good. I'd recommend it  to people to make their minds up about it.

I think i'll continue this journey through very "grey" movies shot in black and white with Tirez su pianiste and Rififi tonight.

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Books & Comics / Re: What comics have brought a lump to your throat
« on: 15 July, 2012, 10:36:05 am »
100Bullets. Small spoiler, but just to be certain I marked some of it as spoilers. The agent Philip Graves cannot give Curtis Hughes a job as a "warlord" for an outfit-organisation that runs USA because Curtis has a dark skin(the outfit are rasists). But the closet homosexual Joseph Shepherd will get the job.
It hits me everytime when Curtis tells Shepherd:
"At least you can hide what scares them."

I feel real sorry for the guy everytime I read it. :'(

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Film & TV / Re: Prometheus
« on: 13 July, 2012, 12:49:11 pm »
Can't believe that people are trying to find logic and consistency in the Joker's actions! There isn't any- that's the point!

He does seem to try to prove something similar to The Killing Joke's "One bad day...", but at the same time he doesn't seem to care that much either when neither of the ferries explodes (since he'll set them off himself) and when Batman doesn't let him drop he just laughs.

Have you read Brian Azzarello and Lee Bermejo's The Joker by the way? It has a similar tricky portrayal of him, and a point of the story is the danger of rationalizing such crazy and unstoppable force/person. A real good read, and the joker looks familiar to the movie one (which I think is a coincident, since Lee's "realistic" joker design is 5 years older)

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Film & TV / Re: RoboCop - Murphy's Law
« on: 13 July, 2012, 12:31:26 pm »
I wonder if they'll keep the Frankenstein qualites of the original, that gives the whole "clunky future" vibe enough charm to work. I think the brain implanted in a machine feels to ineffective to run such a spectacle as robocop since the devolpment of computers now days.

Maybe they'll let Murphy be alive this time, and let him roam the streets in more of a exo-skeleton or something. More Jesus than Monster.

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Film & TV / Re: Prometheus
« on: 13 July, 2012, 12:14:30 pm »
--but there's a logic to what he does, a desire to expose the true human nature masked by society. "When the chips are down, these people will eat each other". To me that's far more chilling and relevant than a pantomime 'Clown prince of crime' type villain.

Yes, that sums it up for me too, about the Joker in the movie. I even think his goal in the end is a suicide by cop (in his case batman).
He got Harvey going insane and broken by breaking his belief in the system, and I think he wanted a similar thing for batman by making him break his one rule about not killing someone.

But then he also said that he's like a dog chasing cars, but not knowing what he'd do if he catched one.

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