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Prog / Re: Prog 2145 - Body Horror!
« on: 24 August, 2019, 12:04:38 pm »

Lots of dead Judges found with missing helmets.

Film & TV / Re: The Trailer Thread
« on: 24 August, 2019, 02:14:24 am »
Unload your sacks of credits. Herzog gotta eat.

The Mandalorian

Off Topic / Re: It's a bit warm/ wet/ cold outside
« on: 21 August, 2019, 10:09:12 pm »
Listening to Ben Shapiro is like a bee going in and out of earshot.

Film & TV / Re: Last movie watched...
« on: 20 August, 2019, 09:55:38 pm »
We probably saw it round the same time Tords, as it freaked me out too, to the point I think I instantly forgot it until seeing a still of it many years later that opened the door of horror again. It's got that peculiar Peter Weir(d) Ozploitation vibe that just gets in on you.

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 20 August, 2019, 09:50:02 pm »

Film & TV / The Matrix: Re4matted
« on: 20 August, 2019, 09:31:03 pm »
Get ready to re-enter the Matrix.

Lana Wachowski is set to write and direct a fourth film set in the world of “The Matrix,” with Keanu Reeves and Carrie-Anne Moss reprising their roles as Neo and Trinity, respectively.


General / Re: It Shoulda Ended with...
« on: 20 August, 2019, 09:28:06 pm »
Rocky and Predator have been mentioned already. I would add The Matrix, Rambo and Ghostbusters.

It's your day, Pops, Matrix 4 got the greenlight.


General / Re: It Shoulda Ended with...
« on: 20 August, 2019, 05:38:07 pm »
It was suggested in a paranoid scene/delusion from the book when Deckard finds himself in a fake police station run by replicant cops. Fancher also only saw it as a suggested possibility but wrote him as a human.

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 20 August, 2019, 04:05:31 pm »
he now refers to him as "Boris Piccaninny Watermelon Letterbox Cake Bumboys Vampires Haircut Wall-Spaffer Spunk-Burster Fuck-Business Fuck-The-Families Get-Off-My-Fucking-Laptop Turds Johnson"


General / Re: It Shoulda Ended with...
« on: 20 August, 2019, 03:31:47 pm »
Yes - and the value of this depends on what they're testing for.
Maybe they're trying to see if the memories, values, emotions they've implanted will create the desired effect of him persevering with his duty and not saying 'fuck it' and doing a runner when faced with superior odds.

All that's fine to think about in a kind of fan-fictiony way, as we often do here, but none of it is really supported by the text of the film. It's an extrapolation a few steps beyond a reasonable reading, for me at least, but your mileage may vary.

General / Re: It Shoulda Ended with...
« on: 20 August, 2019, 03:05:22 pm »
If you accept him being a replicant though, it opens the possibility that the whole plot is actualy a Deckard field test and that the Nexus VI replicants haven't seen attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion - it's all made up to give Deckard something to do.

A field-test where they send a weaker, middle-aged replicant against a bunch of sexy upgrades who kick the shite of him repeatedly.

General / Re: It Shoulda Ended with...
« on: 20 August, 2019, 02:35:01 pm »
Apart from it raising plot-holes, I can only assume he likes it because it makes his additions of metaphorical origami and fantasy animals come together in a 'clever' plot-twist at the end, which hardly matters at that point in a film which is more about story/theme than plot.

General / Re: It Shoulda Ended with...
« on: 20 August, 2019, 01:09:40 pm »
Also wasn't entirely happy to see Harrison Ford growing old; unless I've misremembered something that explains things, it kind of takes away from the question of his humanity or lack thereof.

I find that the question of Deckard literally being a replicant, or not, is not in itself a particularly interesting loose-end nor the point, as Ridley Scott continues to argue.

The question for me is can a human who acts like a 'machine' (or artifical non-human if you will) be considered more human than a 'machine' that acts like a human? Which is at the heart of one of Philip K Dick's statements: "living and nonliving things are exchanging properties". Both films resolve, if not conclude, that coundrum in different ways.

General / Re: 2000 AD ART STARS - HALO JONES
« on: 19 August, 2019, 01:38:41 am »
... the detail of the shoe slowly falling out of shot is just... where's that heart emoji when you need it?

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