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Off Topic / Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« on: 04 June, 2019, 02:41:19 pm »

Only on alternate Fridays when there's a 'k' in the month.

Off Topic / Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« on: 04 June, 2019, 12:58:29 pm »
I find it helpful (in all aspects of life) to try and remember the Trivium method of Grammar, Logic and Rhetoric.

Step 1, Grammar.
Ensure an understanding of definitions, context, conclusions, assumptions etc. In the physical world, this step can be compared to reading and understanding the instructions contained with flat-pack furniture - knowing what Dowel C or Bracket F refers to.

Step 2, Logic.
Extrapolate meaning and reconcile contradictions. In the example, matching all the pieces and parts in the instructions with the physical parts of the flat-pack to ensure it all makes sense; are the instructions correct for the item to be built and are all the parts present and correctly identified.

Step 3, Rhetoric.
Construct and present a valid response. Putting all the parts together in the correct configuration to end up with a sturdy new bookcase.

Do I always go through this process properly? No, unfortunately - which can result in a wobbly bookcase.

When it comes to arguments, I find the biggest problem to be emotion. For example, if someone says to me, "the Earth is flat because A+B=C," my immediate reaction is an emotional one - something along the lines of, "oh f*ck off, you bloody idiot," which is not helpful. The best response is to put the emotion aside, understand what A+B=C actually means, construct a logical response and then put that response into words. Unfortunately, this in itself often leads to an emotional response - at which time it's probably time to walk away as emotional arguments cannot be defeated by logical arguments. Whilst emotion is important to inform our arguments, it cannot be relied upon to carry them.

General / Re: Things that went over your head...
« on: 03 June, 2019, 09:30:26 pm »

I didn't know that, either.

Worst. Nerd. Ever. :(

Off Topic / Re: RIPs
« on: 03 June, 2019, 05:21:29 pm »

Paul Darrow, Avon from Blake's 7.

General / Re: Things that went over your head...
« on: 01 June, 2019, 11:00:48 pm »

Torchwood, I've just discovered, is an anagram of Doctor Who.

Off Topic / Re: Squaxx Telling Jokes
« on: 29 May, 2019, 12:32:28 pm »

Police recruiters have again lowered the i.q. requirement.

The plod thickens...

Off Topic / Re: Squaxx Telling Jokes
« on: 28 May, 2019, 09:22:56 pm »

A Norse walks into a Cockney pub and the landlord says, "Why the long boat?"

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 28 May, 2019, 09:20:24 pm »

In a couple of decades, maybe sooner, there'll be a handful of pan-European parties vying to run all Europe and everyone will be squabbling over how crap and self-serving they all are right across the continent.

The same people will still be in charge of money creation, the same people will still be pulling the strings, and the rest of us will still be struggling and arguing and waiting for the Right Person to be elected so we can all be saved.

Off Topic / Re: Y'know what really grinds my gears?
« on: 27 May, 2019, 09:03:24 pm »

Makes my blood boil that does, JBC.

Believe it or believe it not, I've recently become friends with a policeman. Of course, the day we met I told him all about my adventures with his colleagues - the false accusations they made against me, the "missing" cctv footage that showed what really happened and all the rest of it - and he just nodded resignedly. "All too common," he said sadly.

When I told him I eventually got a couple of grand off them to basically go away, his eyebrows shot up so fast he nearly knocked his own ears off. "Blimey," he said, "I'm impressed. People generally get fuck all off Lancashire Police."

He's told me other stories as well and I'm astounded how closely our opinions match. It's sad how this guy (who's been on the force for decades and is looking forward to retirement) and his colleagues know how poorly the police serve the public and how vigorously they protect themselves and the upper portions of society.

Out of uniform he's a nice bloke - he gave me a bottle of scotch today as a thank you for helping him out with a couple of unrelated and relatively trivial matters - and he can't wait to be done with his job.

It was hard for me to even talk to him at first but I'm glad I overcame my prejudice. It doesn't mean I'll ever trust the Force again, of course, but it goes to show that they're just normal folk under the uniform.

I hope you get your bike back, JBC, and don't have to resort to Bronsonesque shenanigans to do so.

Off Topic / Re: Y'know what really grinds my gears?
« on: 27 May, 2019, 07:16:17 pm »

That sucks, JBC - hopefully the insurance will cover it if the Boys in Blue draw a blank.

Film & TV / Re: Game of Thrones: the last series [SPOILERS]
« on: 26 May, 2019, 12:49:25 pm »

Flaming arrows?

Film & TV / Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
« on: 25 May, 2019, 10:54:57 pm »

I've never read the comics so I don't know what to expect - but this is a Good Thing as it's all new to me. I find most of the DC stuff pretty bland, with one or two notable exceptions, but this is utterly superb so far.

Film & TV / Re: Current TV Boxset Addiction
« on: 25 May, 2019, 06:12:36 pm »

Quote from: Jim_Campbell
Doom Patrol Episode 4… You saw that, right? I
didn’t imagine that…?

Just got to it - a disembodied blue horse's head with a spike in it, chewing gum of knowing, and assassins made out of dead skin and letters that were never sent (amongst other insanities).

This is one gloriously mad show and I f*cking Love It!

Film & TV / Re: Game of Thrones: the last series [SPOILERS]
« on: 24 May, 2019, 06:24:51 pm »

I've managed to avoid all the spoilers but I've seen a lot of negativity, which had me worried, but I rather enjoyed that.

Now to read this thread from the beginning...

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 24 May, 2019, 02:44:52 pm »

Over a million views for this thread.

What have I done? :(

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