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Books & Comics / Re: New Comic Book Day Megathread
« on: Today at 08:24:08 am »
Interesting haul. There's been a few number 1s lately so that means this considerable haul has a lot of number 2s (oh calm down) and the second issue can be a tricky beast.

Weather Man Vol. 2 2 is pretty good. The nature of this book has shifted from the intriguing question asked in the first volume into a more horror inspired action piece... which probably just means I'm not getting what this is doing. Still its a fun read and when I get to a re-read I suspect will pull together fine.

Lois Lane 2 is so earnst in its message, its such an interesting contrast to its partner Jimmy Olsen - deliberately - good but not 100% sure I'm actually enjoying it!

Black Hammer Justise League 2 is beautiful, smart and immense fun. So Flash = Black Hammer then.... interesting...

Second Coming 2 continues as you where, and see Black Hammer Justice League above. This one will all hang on how it develops, but its doing what its doing really well.

Lazarus Risen 2 - the second of these new format books for this series. They are lovely products BUT. Well Greg Rucka (see Lois Lane) is really earnst. This comic I do really enjoy but the new format is a little worrying. The comparisons between this and Dante are there large - I mean Forever has even cut her hair during Tsar... I mean Family War.

The new format gives the story plenty of room to breathe, Possibly too much however. The telling feels indulgent and I'm not sure adds too much. In this issue there is a wonderfully executed 25 page fight sequence at the start - which starts resolving the cliffhanger from 3 months ago with a very tried and annoying "oh you know I looked broken and beaten well I wasn't and I'm fine and can fight perfectly" which was frankly a real groan. Now this is all very exciting and really does give Rucka and Lark the space to tell their tale in a different way. This is a 25 page fight sequence with about 2 or 3 pages of character work thrown in.

Reading Dante Tsar War at the same time makes you realise quite how this is the 6 page sequence between Dante and Jena which was done in about 6 pages and I would say done with more power and impact in Dante. Now of course we need and should embrace comics told in different ways, with different pacing. This does expose my nagging belief that while this is still a good comic rather than using its space and room to good effect its becoming a little too flabby and indulgent.

We'll see.

So Immortal Hulk 22 doubles down on its 2ness and is fine, not as strong as some issues of late.

As well as number 2s we get a couple of number 1s Coffin Bound 1 has been getting a LOT of attention lately and is already on a 3rd print I believe. By Brad Simpson (?) and Dani of these pastures its ... okay... its possibly the most Vertigo comic ever in a post Vertigo word and needs to calm down a little and stop trying quite so hard to be otherworldly. As alas it leaves me with very little sense of its world and characters. We'll see how this develops. History of the Marvel Universe 1 does just what it should packs in loads of facts and stuff in a dense retelling by Mark Waid and Javier Rodriguez pulling an absolute shift drawing ALLTHISSTUFF. I used to love this type of thing, lets see if I still do?

We also get three ending. Dick Tracy Forever 4 finishes this time trotting adventure with its typical panashe and style. James Bond Origin 12 finishes this series (I assume nothing tells you any more, even the last comic itself!) with a bit of a squib of the damp kind.

The biggie is Paper Girls 30 which fills its double sized pages with romance of the past the way this series has. I think this is amazingly effective... but I won't know until re-read alas.

Finally we get some regular comics. Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur 45 has another decent one-shot as this series - I think (back to nothing saying its ending anymore) - fills space a little to squeeze out one more trade. The Goon 5 is a fill-in while we wait for The Goon 4 (no really) its pretty good fun.

Some hauls I struggle to pick a book of the haul as so much is just brilliant. This haul nothing quite gets to that standard so I'm skipping naming the best.

Prog / Re: 2000 AD in Stages
« on: Today at 07:10:24 am »
Always time for a good diagram!

Yeah diagram and charts this thread is becoming the best every!

Prog / Re: Prog 2145 - Body Horror!
« on: 17 August, 2019, 09:07:23 pm »
So there we have it. Dredd 'Control' ends and if I'm honest I'm a little disappointed. The ideas were excecuted well. The events that were used to carry them a little hackneyed for me. Shame as this has been a great story and I really liked what it was aiming at. Have to say happy that Maitland's alive.

Indigo Prime however is glorious and is the kind of story that gets away with 'The human Fingerbob' by the force of shear creative brilliance and glorious realisation. Ending exciting too!

Always happy with Sinister Dexter and this is a nice intro. Just also say I didn't like how John Charles coloured the Might Yeowell's last time here I think its a complete trimuph! It really evoked the painted stuff Steve Yeowell did back in the late 80s.

If I'm being picky the Future Shock makes a great Terror Tale as the shock ain't all that  shocky but the terror is certainly in the tale. Shouldn't really get too hung up on that as its a good story. I'm intrigued how folks will react to the art in this one. 2000ad fans can suprise by how conservative (small c) they can be in their art tastes and I see this could be an issue here. Me I loved it thought is was sharp striking. Loved the bold colours.

Jaegir didn't really move us on too much, just kept the same things going effectively enough.

Decent Prog if not quite up the standard of late.

General / Re: It Shoulda Ended with...
« on: 17 August, 2019, 07:54:48 am »
...Your defense smells of poo.


Okay now this is getting ridiculous. I promise this meant to be an arrogant self quote with me saying 'Brilliant' to my own post. I was meant to be saying BRILLIANT! to the picture from Link Prime, but it didn't copy across in the quote???

Sigh my typos now include missing out whole pictures, not just letters and words!

General / Re: It Shoulda Ended with...
« on: 16 August, 2019, 12:53:06 pm »

Daredevil - Born Again

By all the songs of importance and value have you lost your you mind man. Has your very soul been devoured by the dark creatures of the night.... what is this you say?!???!!!

Matthew Murdock, attorney at law, speaking for the defense:

"My client has informed me that he recently re-read the entirety of Miller's work over a short time period.
It can, in no uncertain circumstances, be justifiably claimed that this body of work is the definitive take on the character.

While subsequent work by different authors has produced some fine examples of periodic comic strip, my client prefers to imagine a tangent fictional universe wherein the protagonist walked into the sunset at the end of this specific arc - born again in mind and body."

Arh very clever, evoking the spirit of Daredevil alter-ego Matt Murdock to defend your claim. That leaves me tempted to develop some elaborate Fiskesque plan to expliot your weaknesses, draw your into my world and then crush you under my gargantuan fist of criminal genius leaving you brutally exposed and vulernable and this time making sure we check for the body in the taxi...

.... but I'm pushed for time so...

...Your defense smells of poo.

Prog / Re: Prog 2144 War Crimes and Retribution
« on: 15 August, 2019, 06:07:29 pm »
Dredd shouting "Maitland Duck!" I'd forgotten he was from Sheffield.

General / Re: Forthcoming Thrills - 2019
« on: 15 August, 2019, 06:06:08 pm »
Couple of Treasury things I've picked up from Previews. Note seem them mentioned but that might just be me being dozy? Particularly intrigued by the first one. Not a strip I know but the write makes it sound very interesting!

(W) Don Avenell (A) Carlos Cruz
Hammer Horror meets Doomlord in this 1970s supernatural comics gem! After several artefacts are stolen from his home, the mysterious Egyptologist Dr. Mesmer resurrects a five-thousand-year-old mummy called Angor, a Pharaoh possessed with great mystical power. Together they set out to retrieve the missing items, bringing terror and destruction in their wake! Featuring the work of legends of British comics Donne Avenell (The Spider, The Phantom) and illustrated by Carlos Cruz Gonzalez (M.A.S.K, The Phantom).
In Shops: Oct 02, 2019
SRP: $18.99

(A) Jordi Badia Romero
Deluxe over-sized art-book celebrating the art of a lost master of horror illustration! Celebrating the incredible art of Jordi Bad a Romero from supernatural girls comic Misty, this sumptuous hardcover art book collects stories from the 1980s that showcase this remarkable, and criminally-overlooked, artist who died in 1984. This is a must for collectors of artist-focused biographies and visual history guides.
In Shops: Oct 30, 2019
SRP: $24.99

Prog / Re: Prog 2144 War Crimes and Retribution
« on: 15 August, 2019, 06:43:04 am »
I have serious problems with Indigo Prime, but I don't see anything unclear about the storytelling. The *plot* is gratuitously complicated but that is very much the intention - the actual panel-to-pane and page-to-page content is well communicated.

Conversely there were problems with storytelling in Anderson, but as a whole the story - contrasting two different 'fallen' Psi judges to show one's redemption - worked fine.

I value a nice clear story very highly, but I think there's definitely room for strips that deliberately confuse and puzzle in comics, as in all fiction.

Getting both sides of this. I'm loving the current Indigo Prime - for all the surrounding issues as a story judge in and of itself its good comcis - I actually don't think its the plot that's confusing. Its pretty straight forward. The main challenge is that it immerses you in its universe so completely and in doing so uses languages and concepts that are deliberately otherworldly which gives it its scale and wonder. It uses this to pull you in completely to pull you in and experience something in a way it wouldn't if it was straightforward. The actual things that happen are pretty straightforward - well lets be clear for sci-fi terms! - once you work with this.

The thing is there's enough there to make me work with it.

In the case of Anderson its trying the same thing, but for me didn't give me enough to make me want to work with it (the me's are deliberate to emphasize a point to come). So while it was doing the same thing it didn't give me enough to make me invest. That said the end was pretty good and even though I was drifting from it I got the end and that made me want to go back, on one level, and take the reveal and see how that it reflected on my take of what had gone before. The trouble is I just wasn't invested enough to actually do so.

So yes comics can and in many ways should, confuse and puzzle, stretch and challenge - as Todalback says - as should all fiction - but it needs to give the reader enough to make them want to do that. Now what the needs are the reader brings to that fiction that make them want to invest will vary from person to person. Hence the craft required to draw as many in as possible is quite something. If the creators manage to do that, as a reader making me work with you to get to whatever story I draw out - be it what the creators intended or not, that strangely doesn't really matter, its what the story the reader gets from what the writer and in the case of comics artists and others bring to meet the needs the reader) bring with them...

...I'm going on ....

Other Reviews / Re: The completely self absorbed 2000ad re-read thread
« on: 14 August, 2019, 09:13:25 pm »

Covering long awaited returns

A couple of lovely covers beck in the first relaunch of 2001. Prog 1234 also sorts out a recent issue - that thankfully didn't last long. The new mast head didn't last long a little over 6 months and is replaced by... well the classic logo, the greatest and longest lasting. Oh its been tweaked and played with, its been put back into a mast head of a kind now. but almost 1000 (gulp) Progs later - well 900+, its still there. As Unca Joe says on the cover itself

If it ain't broke don't fix it creep!

Its a revisit to the logo of old and the cover of old that introduced it and its a lovely piece of work


When I look at the cover of the next Prog 1235 I wonder if Tharg commissioned this as an option for the relaunch before deciding to go a different direction and celebrate the new logo. Its a glorious Kev Walker Tharg cover with a nice little montage of characters at his feet. Its one of my favourites, but then I've always been a sucker for a Tharg cover.


Inside there's a bit of a classic feel to Tharg's organ too. Wagner and Kennedy Dredd, modern classics Dante - with a silly and slightly out of tone Tsar Wars side story and Sinister Dexter. Alongside these is a return after a long break of the classic ABC Warriors. Its a set of stories I've very much been looking forward to re-reading, not necessarily cos I remember liking them especially, I have significent problems in my mind with this return to Mars triology (as I recall I'll get) but I'm very much looking forward to re-evaluating them.... they start... okay... glorious Henry Flint art aside, but I'll give this far story some more time before I make a proper assessment.

Still overall good times in the Prog, lets see how it goes and all we need is a little more girth and I'll be well content to go with this classic look and feel.

General / Re: It Shoulda Ended with...
« on: 13 August, 2019, 08:51:34 pm »
I did think about making that same argument, Colin, but I thought you'd have more fun doing so.

Seems I was right!

Well if ya going to do it, go BIG I say!

Planet of the Apes should have ended with Chuck on his knees, crying his eyes out in the shadow of Liberty. Everything else, whilst often enjoyable, is entirely superfluous.

And you, you're just baiting me now ain't ya!

Books & Comics / Re: Rok the God Kickstarter
« on: 13 August, 2019, 07:56:12 pm »
Very excited about this. Can't wait. Looking forward to seeing what the  different levels offer. Loved the first series A LOT.

General / Re: It Shoulda Ended with...
« on: 13 August, 2019, 06:34:00 pm »

Daredevil - Born Again

Now these things are fun and shouldn't be take too seriously AND experience has taught me that Link Prime is a fine soul and all previous evidence says one who has good taste in comics.... you ready...

... you ready for it....

sure.... here it comes ...


By all the songs of importance and value have you lost your you mind man. Has your very soul been devoured by the dark creatures of the night.... what is this you say?!???!!!

If you end it there you get no Nocenti run, the finest run of them all UNLESS you think the Waid run is the greatest of them all that is also an acceptable answer. You also don't get the Bendis run, the Brubaker run which all have considerable merits. I refer the (previous thought to be) learned gentleman to the evidence.


Oh, oh breathe, breathe.... this may seem like an utter over reaction and a massive hissy fit comparible to those oh my 10 year old daughter when we take her mobile off her BUT ITS NOT ITS UTTERLY JUSTIFIED...

...it is...

...it really is...

Prog / Re: Prog 2144 War Crimes and Retribution
« on: 10 August, 2019, 09:30:42 pm »
Well we get an absolute winner of a Prog with two endings. The first is a bit of a surprise in that I've not enjoyed Anderson much to date but have to be honest I thought it ended pretty well and while it wasn't perfect and I still have issues with the art it was certainly a uptick.

The second ending is no surprise in that Thistlebone nails it for me. Its genuinely horrible in the best possible way. This has been a brilliant series and I suspect will stand up very well on re-read. I'd say more please, but suspect it should be left where it is.

Elsewhere we get a swap out and while Jaegir was never going to stand up to the end of Absalom its makes a damned fine fist of it with a great opener. As Proudhuff says nice Cam Kennedy touches to further echo the characters past appearance.

Indigo Prime continues to challenge and delight with a truly evil reveal at the end. Similarly Dredd has a shocker of an ending and is quite, quite brilliant.

With promises of Dabnett and Yeowell back on Sinister Dexter next week I'm a happy camper in the green fields of Tharg's organ.

Welcome to the board / Re: hi
« on: 10 August, 2019, 01:37:01 pm »
Welcome aboard - have fun.

What's your story with 2000ad then?

i have got it from the start (before i could read lol) but took a break in the 90s sarted again in the late 90s or 2000s

Its a pretty common story!

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