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Steve Green

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The awfulness of youtube
« on: 28 February, 2019, 09:01:57 pm »
Nothing groundbreaking but youtube seems about as toxic as lead in paint (well even more than it was before)

Recently uploaded/recommended (unless I log in) has Yaxley Lennon videos moaning about censorship - and no apparent way to block that channel or content.
Like having a TV that randomly tunes to the arsehole channel.

I could just about bear it in when it was some tedious prick banging on about Star Wars/Doctor Who/Star Trek/Whatever, but there is a limit.

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Re: The awfulness of youtube
« Reply #1 on: 28 February, 2019, 09:05:37 pm »

It's not all bad - you can find Kenny Everett, Roobarb and The Wombles on there too!


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Re: The awfulness of youtube
« Reply #2 on: 28 February, 2019, 09:15:50 pm »
Never look up any Jordan Peterson videos: you'll get flooded with hundreds of suggestions for "Jordan Peterson easily destroys snowflake SJW".

It's all about destruction and domination and subjugation.  Yuck.
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Re: The awfulness of youtube
« Reply #3 on: 28 February, 2019, 09:23:21 pm »
You have to curate the recommended for you list by clicking on the options pull-down menu - the three little dots on the corner of the video you want to stop appearing in your recs - and choose "not interested" and when prompted "tell us why", select "not interested in this channel".  Do this a few times and YT will stop recommending you such videos - at least until you or someone on your computer or device looks at such videos again.
I did this a while back and now I follow like 200 different communist Youtubers that got recommended to me - when the algorithm starts working for you, it really starts working for you.

YT does some very awful stuff to the point I pretty much defend the algorithm now because it's far from the worst concern.  Nonces using kids' videos to share nonce porn links, for example, or YT's demonetisation strategies that constantly impoverish the users that made the service the social media hub it is now rather than the place you went to find copyright-infringing uploads.  YT has many problems, but the algorithm one is at least fixable.

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Re: The awfulness of youtube
« Reply #4 on: 28 February, 2019, 09:27:24 pm »
My recommendations are mostly music videos, film trailers and retro-game streams. Oh and it recommends I should pay them £2.49 to watch the 'Dredd' movie. but I already have it on blu-ray so, no.

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Re: The awfulness of youtube
« Reply #5 on: 28 February, 2019, 09:47:26 pm »
You have to curate the recommended for you list by clicking on the options pull-down menu - the three little dots on the corner of the video you want to stop appearing in your recs - and choose "not interested" and when prompted "tell us why", select "not interested in this channel".  Do this a few times and YT will stop recommending you such videos - at least until you or someone on your computer or device looks at such videos again.
I did this a while back and now I follow like 200 different communist Youtubers that got recommended to me - when the algorithm starts working for you, it really starts working for you.

YT does some very awful stuff to the point I pretty much defend the algorithm now because it's far from the worst concern.  Nonces using kids' videos to share nonce porn links, for example, or YT's demonetisation strategies that constantly impoverish the users that made the service the social media hub it is now rather than the place you went to find copyright-infringing uploads.  YT has many problems, but the algorithm one is at least fixable.

That only works if you log in though doesn't it? It doesn't stop the shite popping up if you're not logged in, and no way that I can see to control it.

Yeah, I hadn't even got to the other major concerns yet.


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Re: The awfulness of youtube
« Reply #6 on: 28 February, 2019, 10:45:25 pm »

But... The Wombles, guys - the fucking Wombles!


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Re: The awfulness of youtube
« Reply #7 on: 01 March, 2019, 04:57:08 am »
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Re: The awfulness of youtube
« Reply #8 on: 01 March, 2019, 09:41:44 am »

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Re: The awfulness of youtube
« Reply #9 on: 01 March, 2019, 01:11:03 pm »
The trick is to ignore every part of the front page except the search bar.

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Re: The awfulness of youtube
« Reply #10 on: 01 March, 2019, 01:39:37 pm »
I imagine the life as a youtube censor isn't unlike the life of a facebook censor, and while we're complaining about lead in the air, those poor bastards are mainlining the crazy...

https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/25/18229714/cognizant-facebook-content-moderator-interviews-trauma-working-conditions-arizona
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Re: The awfulness of youtube
« Reply #11 on: 01 March, 2019, 04:11:54 pm »
I read an article the other day about a ‘bold’ and ‘radical’ new initiative to combat the spread of fake news (or ‘far right propaganda’ as I call it). Their plan? To add a little caption under suspect news articles suggesting that they might nor be factually accurate. Yep, go home lads, you nailed it!

Personally I’m of the opinion that the government needs to step in and the big tech giants need to be heavily regulated and/or broken up and/or nationalised. There’s too much at stake. They already wield far too much power. Facebook alone is a total disaster.

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Re: The awfulness of youtube
« Reply #12 on: 01 March, 2019, 04:17:19 pm »
The actual Tommy Robinson channel came up as a recommendation.

I'm not sure whether that's a blanket thing or some bit of dogshit that I've trodden in on twitter or facebook or something else on my internet travels.

That this ringpiece is high profile enough to get banned from facebook etc and youtube are still promoting him is unbelievable.

I agree - regulate the fuck out of these companies.

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Re: The awfulness of youtube
« Reply #13 on: 01 March, 2019, 04:45:23 pm »

I'm not sure that putting politicians in charge of deciding what is and isn't true is entirely the best idea...


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Re: The awfulness of youtube
« Reply #14 on: 01 March, 2019, 05:10:10 pm »
Some people believe the earth is flat.

Being wrong isn't limited to politicians.

I avoid the politics threads for this very reason Sharky, so I'll leave it there - having that prick turn up as recommended has wound me up enough, I'm not going to waste my time trying to argue a point with you here, I've seen how that goes on the other thread.