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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15780 on: 18 July, 2019, 12:51:05 am »
And yet a very clever man (far cleverer than me) repeatedly told me the other night that the way it works is the Tories clean up Labour's financial messes. Labour spend it, the Tories save.

Despite being able to hear everything other one of my criticisms of the shambles of the Tory party and its actual record vs its hype (and the nature by which this hype is sustained), he wouldnt shift on that one. All evidence to the contrary, BoJo a shining, crystallized icon of the absolute utter waste of time and money they're capable of without any kind of positive return. Never mind overspending, it's literally setting fire to it so you stand in the faint light. 
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15781 on: 18 July, 2019, 01:09:17 am »
And yet a very clever man (far cleverer than me) repeatedly told me the other night that the way it works is the Tories clean up Labour's financial messes. Labour spend it, the Tories save.

Despite being able to hear everything other one of my criticisms of the shambles of the Tory party and its actual record vs its hype (and the nature by which this hype is sustained), he wouldnt shift on that one. All evidence to the contrary, BoJo a shining, crystallized icon of the absolute utter waste of time and money they're capable of without any kind of positive return. Never mind overspending, it's literally setting fire to it so you stand in the faint light. 

It's trickle-down theory, isn't it?  Giving lots of money to really rich people is good for everybody because (theoretically) they'll spend it on things and the money eventually gets down to the poor people.  And the rich people don't hoard it all or spend it on incredibly expensive pieces of artwork.

Also - you left out that the tories are the party of law and order, as we can tell from the glowing recommendations that the police, court system, probation services, prisons, et al have given the tories in the ninth year of their current rule.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15782 on: 18 July, 2019, 02:59:05 am »
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Labour spend it, the Tories save. 

Or Labour spend it on services, the Tories spend it on ... something offshore, probably.
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15783 on: 18 July, 2019, 08:26:08 am »
And yet a very clever man (far cleverer than me) repeatedly told me the other night that the way it works is the Tories clean up Labour's financial messes. Labour spend it, the Tories save.

This is one of those myths (lies) that simply passes into perceived ‘truth’ by endless repetition. The actual numbers very clearly show that not only do the Conservatives borrow more than Labour when in government, Labour also repays more of the national debt.
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15784 on: 18 July, 2019, 10:09:30 am »
That Boris speech. Sweet Jesus.

When we run out of Mars bars, will the UK finally see sense?

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15785 on: 18 July, 2019, 04:25:39 pm »
That Boris speech. Sweet Jesus.

When we run out of Mars bars, will the UK finally see sense?

It's only a suggestion, but it might be an idea if we all stopped calling him Boris, which plays into his own carefully constructed image of a cuddly, matey lad-next-door.  He's a cynical, calculating fuck that has never known anything other than how the entitled rich live.

He can have his surname like every other politician, or even better, that word I used for Farage that got me a week's ban from the forum.

Speaking of that particular profanity, Trump has his bovine followers shouting 'send her back'.  Where is it all going to end? The west is broken now, and it won't be fixed any time soon.
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« Reply #15786 on: 18 July, 2019, 05:00:40 pm »
Yep. I’m in particular sick of the media getting sucked into the Boris thing. Stop using his first name, like he’s Prince or Madonna. He’s a fucking MP, like the rest of them. Use his full name!

Still, I guess he’ll at least get to go down in history now, probably as the last PM of the UK, if not the last Tory PM. (I’m not optimistic enough to think this will bring down that party.)

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15787 on: 18 July, 2019, 07:59:37 pm »
When we run out of Mars bars, will the UK finally see sense?

Pretty sure the reaction to no Mars Bars/medicines/planes/jobs will be very far from sense: instead it'll be further misplaced rage at the EU, only fueling the careers of toerags like Johnson and Farage and demands for retribution and even more complete separation and union with the US.

Floating the idea that the UK will be anything other than injured prey for the US after Brexit should be enough to see any politician booed off the stage. Amazing that the English can understand in their very bones that 54 million > 5 + 3 + 2 million, and what power that confers, but not that 510 million > 325 million > 64 million, and what that implies. 


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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15788 on: 18 July, 2019, 08:35:48 pm »
Boy, it sure is good that no harm came of pretending the left was riddled with antisemitism just so we could take potshots at Corbyn and Omar.  Now if you'll excuse me, I'm just off to see what this #SendHerBack thing is all about...

Welp.  Dunno how fucked we were before, but we're super fucked now.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15789 on: 18 July, 2019, 10:35:53 pm »
Still hard for me to believe that this is where we've ended up: if you can't persuade your party and constituents of the value of your ideas, just tell lies and more lies and keep telling lies until you're in charge. And why stop then?

 It feels like someone's found a glitch in a side-scroller where you just keep running in the same specific spot and nothing can kill you, and now all the kids are doing it and getting ludicrous scores and no-one else gets a game but equally no-one seems to care that IT'S TOTAL BULLSHIT.