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Colin YNWA

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Re: Science is Drokking Fantastic Because...
« Reply #1500 on: 22 November, 2020, 09:13:16 AM »
Ray Harryhausen knew the score!

Complete fossilised T-Rex skeleton found locked in battle with Triceratops.

Wow that I'd never heard of this, yet know details of the WAGatha Christie case is a shocking indictment of what I pay attention to and what the mainstream media hold to be important.

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Re: Science is Drokking Fantastic Because...
« Reply #1501 on: 22 November, 2020, 11:08:17 AM »
One day, future palaeontologists will find a complete fossilised Coleen Rooney skeleton locked in battle with Rebekah Vardy.

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« Reply #1502 on: 22 November, 2020, 12:06:01 PM »
That's amazing. (The dinosaurs, that is, not the footballers' wives.) Also never knew that the Triceratops' surname was 'Horridus'.
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Re: Science is Drokking Fantastic Because...
« Reply #1503 on: 24 November, 2020, 04:20:38 AM »
That's amazing. (The dinosaurs, that is, not the footballers' wives.) Also never knew that the Triceratops' surname was 'Horridus'.

Me neither. Makes me thing of the Grizzly bear’s moniker (Ursus Horribillis). I don’t understand Latin in general, but I think I understand that.  :lol: (Not entirely fair on the bear. We humans will leave tasty morsels in our rubbish dumps and wander into their territory.)

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Re: Science is Drokking Fantastic Because...
« Reply #1504 on: 25 November, 2020, 07:30:40 PM »

In philosophical mood, I ask: what does "trust the science" actually mean?

Trust the scientist? Well, scientists are only human. Most just do their thing to pay the bills and feed their children. They go where the money is, do what the money says, just like the rest of us. And, just like the rest of us, they often disagree - on everything from the Many Worlds interpretation of Quantum Theory to climate change to virology. So, trust all the scientists or some of them? Which ones? Why? If so, trust the science translates to trust some of the science. With no disrespect to scientists in general, I'm not sure I like that.

Trust the scientific results? Again, what to do when the results conflict or have multiple possible interpretations? Which results to trust? Again, I'm left with trust some of the science, and again I'm not sure I like it.

Trust the scientific projections? I see the same problem only moreso - predicting the future has never been a particularly fruitful area of endeavour, save for fundamentals like physical processes governed by natural laws - and even this is not perfect, as several lost Mars probes adequately demonstrate. Trust some of the science. Nope.

By this point it seems to me that "trust the science" is a political slogan designed to win arguments and avoid questions.

But there is one more possibility.

Trust the scientific method. This is based on relentless testing and questioning, recording and interpreting results and, most importantly, that the current dominant theories in any given discipline are simply our best and most educated guesses. These educated guesses have a lot to support them, which is why they serve as current models or frameworks, but some result or discovery or interpretation could come along at any moment to radically alter or even sweep them away. The scientific method is the same for us all. And there's the definition of trust the science I can almost go for.

It's arguably the most important tool we've ever developed, we must never allow it to be reduced to a political slogan or, worse, a religion.

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Re: Science is Drokking Fantastic Because...
« Reply #1505 on: 25 November, 2020, 07:47:02 PM »

Ignore me.

I am currently engaged in a repeat experiment involving the addition of certain chemically interesting fluids to my general biological mass.

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Re: Science is Drokking Fantastic Because...
« Reply #1506 on: 25 November, 2020, 07:53:55 PM »
It's arguably the most important tool we've ever developed, we must never allow it to be reduced to a political slogan or, worse, a religion.

I 100% agree. Maybe I've only started to notice this during the pandemic, but politicians when politicians say "Trust the Science" or "Follow the science" they use the word "science in the same way their predecessors might have used the word "bible".

As for everything else you've put there....

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Re: Science is Drokking Fantastic Because...
« Reply #1507 on: 25 November, 2020, 08:45:08 PM »
In philosophical mood, I ask: what does "trust the science" actually mean?

It's probably better than trusting polemic.
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Re: Science is Drokking Fantastic Because...
« Reply #1508 on: 25 November, 2020, 10:04:27 PM »
You already reached the answer that I would have given - don't trust the scientist trust the method - unbiased, repeatable experiments with peer-reviewed methodology, and the core belief that We Don't Know Everything - every piece of research strengthens some theories, demolishes other, but the end result is a continually improving understanding. The word science simply means 'knowledge'

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Re: Science is Drokking Fantastic Because...
« Reply #1509 on: 25 November, 2020, 10:32:53 PM »
And trusting the method, 97% of them agree on climate change beingreal and man made. So I wouldn't say there is any significant number that disagree there.
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