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Tjm86

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15360 on: 31 January, 2019, 04:57:17 pm »
just because Westminster is physically surrounded by the planet Earth, doesn't mean the MPs there have anything in common with the rest of humanity, or are even in touch with reality ...

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15361 on: 04 February, 2019, 11:37:34 am »
This is fine.


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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15362 on: 04 February, 2019, 12:13:34 pm »
That's the least of it. Also be mindful that:

- The app does not work on iPhones nor quite a few Android devices
- There are only 13 scanning centres in the whole of the UK, and they will charge people to scan documents
- Despite settled status supposedly only being about residency and a lack of a criminal record, those who've not worked for five years are typically NOT getting settled status at present – only pre-settled status
- Even those who have full HMRC records are not guaranteed status, because the system is a shit-show
- Quite a few people are stuck in a tech support loop, after the app's failed but no-one can help them (and so: no settled status)
- EFTA citizens cannot apply at all as yet
- NO-ONE SHOULD HAVE TO FUCKING APPLY AT ALL ANYWAY

That last point is one a lot of people are missing, including the MPs who've signed that "make this shit better, please" letter. EU and EFTA residents, who may have been here for years or decades (one on my Twitter feed earlier: 74 years) are having to APPLY for the right to stay in their own homes. This is abhorrent. At most, this should have been a basic registration process: go to your local council office with photographic ID and proof of residency, and you get a bit of paper back with "congrats – you have pre-settled status". Add to that proof of five years of residency (which for many would be automatic through you being on the council's listings for council tax) and that becomes full settled status. Job done.

But no. Things can't be like that, despite the government claiming that the process would be as easy as buying something online. Apparently, they must purchase things from sociopathic websites.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15363 on: 04 February, 2019, 12:21:07 pm »

The purpose of bureaucracy is to perpetuate bureaucracy. The effect of bureaucracy is to entrench power. And the role of the people bureaucrats ostensibly work for is to pay for it and stfu.


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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15364 on: 05 February, 2019, 11:38:58 am »
If the first early part of this century was a struggle against Islamic extremism, a fight that looks ongoing is the aftermath a vying against Christian Fascism? Russia and America both seem behest to extreme Orthodox Christians who believe in a broad application of Biblical theocracies. How do Rationalists try to reason with those who believe in a Primitive Fairy story and the even more dangerous  “Politics is the art of identifying and neutralising the enemy.”—Ivan Ilyin, 1948? Vladimir Putin had Ilyin's body interred in a Monastery overseen by a Priest who was a known KGB informer so that should tell you all you need about his adoration of that miserable sod. Is there any reasoning with such people or are we heading for a collision with a sizable group some of whom believe that routing out unbelievers moves society closer to God?
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15365 on: 07 February, 2019, 10:05:57 am »

That is a scary aspect.

These buffoons believe in the Book of Revelations and so don't really care about the consequences of their actions as everything they do they do in God's name. Furthermore, God is going to allow Hell to be unleashed upon the Earth and then come down off His cloud to sort everything out, thereby absolving the ruling classes of all responsibility.


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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15366 on: 10 February, 2019, 10:10:22 pm »
Aging white knight, the Member of Parliament Sir Christopher Chope promotes female genital mutilation.  The only plus side I can think of here is that he's closer to his death than he is to his birth.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15367 on: 10 February, 2019, 10:42:24 pm »
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Sir Christopher has argued his aim is to stop badly thought-out legislation.
He said he had not been objecting to the substance of the issue, but wanted to see all legislation properly debated.
Strange how he does this on legislation (this isn't the first time) relating to women's rights, yet waves through plenty of PMBs by his mates. It's almost like he's a raging misogynist or something.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15368 on: 11 February, 2019, 02:19:14 pm »
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Sir Christopher has argued his aim is to stop badly thought-out legislation.
He said he had not been objecting to the substance of the issue, but wanted to see all legislation properly debated.
Strange how he does this on legislation (this isn't the first time) relating to women's rights, yet waves through plenty of PMBs by his mates. It's almost like he's a raging misogynist or something.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15369 on: 11 February, 2019, 06:46:05 pm »
It's unclear whether Liam Neeson has helped or hindered his career by telling stories of his (self-admittedly highly regrettable) past desire to murder an innocent black man (as part of a revenge by skin pigmentation association). 
 
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15370 on: 13 February, 2019, 09:00:59 pm »
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Brexit, the diplomatic equivalent of your dad divorcing your mom by moving to a waterbed into the garage, isn't going great.


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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15371 on: 13 February, 2019, 10:28:55 pm »
I find it weird when the BBC report on "miracles" without ever mentioning that it's just made up by a bunch of old men in Rome.

Or, at the least, presenting it as an opinion (which allows for old men in Rome making stuff up), rather than as fact.
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15372 on: 14 February, 2019, 01:20:09 pm »
I had to share this amusing story as it immediately reminded me of a certain forum member.

https://www.wigantoday.net/news/crime/freeman-of-the-land-causes-chaos-in-wigan-court-1-9594633?fbclid=IwAR02QTBBQixoXbhLjAhOnj7Nwv6RtCe8sgqqkz3TRAKWQAfUUHcKOBkqIgQ

No offence intended - it just made me laugh. :lol:

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15373 on: 14 February, 2019, 01:36:06 pm »
“There is my name. I did not consent to it. It was given to me at birth.”

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #15374 on: 14 February, 2019, 01:41:03 pm »
"The truth is just an opinion"

I hear he's been scouted by Fox news for in field reporting.