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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #16560 on: 13 December, 2019, 04:37:10 am »
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #16561 on: 13 December, 2019, 04:58:10 am »
Remember when Stanley Johnson accused the British publib of being illiterate and that they couldn't even spell Pinnocio?


He was right.
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #16562 on: 13 December, 2019, 06:37:54 am »
Tory win? 100% predictable. The scale of it? Maybe less so. But give Scotland indyref2, and I am quite sure that this time, finally, we'll make the right choice and be out of this joke of a union. The problem, of course, is that Johnson won't let us have it. Which will in turn inevitably increase the desire for it.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #16563 on: 13 December, 2019, 07:32:19 am »
Phew, finally the UK is safe from anti-semitism.

This UK December election has turned out to be an historian's blessing, neatly marking the twenty-teens as the decade that western democracy shat the fucking bed. Enjoy Christmas, my turkey friends.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #16564 on: 13 December, 2019, 07:43:06 am »
What an absolute nightmare we're in.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #16565 on: 13 December, 2019, 08:38:14 am »
I’m still angry. Mrs IP in tears all last night. This shortly after the first time she told me she no longer feels safe and secure in the UK. She’s now driving to work, where staff had Farage posters up and were being shitty to her because they knew she’s a migrant – as are a third of the people who work there. She’s been shopping around in Sweden, idly looking for houses.

I don’t want to leave everything I know and start again. I don’t want my child to lose all her friends and start again. But it almost feels inevitable now.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #16566 on: 13 December, 2019, 08:51:36 am »
I truly hope that this sort of disgusting nationalistic fervour soon dies down.  I just don't know.

No-one should ever feel threatened in that way.

I can't stand what this country is now.




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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #16567 on: 13 December, 2019, 10:05:49 am »
I’m still angry. Mrs IP in tears all last night. This shortly after the first time she told me she no longer feels safe and secure in the UK. She’s now driving to work, where staff had Farage posters up and were being shitty to her because they knew she’s a migrant – as are a third of the people who work there. She’s been shopping around in Sweden, idly looking for houses.

I don’t want to leave everything I know and start again. I don’t want my child to lose all her friends and start again. But it almost feels inevitable now.

Absolutely awful to read that, IndigoPrime.

Devastating to think that there are people so awful, that they think that behaviour is acceptable. Sad that the Newspapers, Politicians etc. have one their damndest to normalise and make acceptable the behaviour of vile people who add so little to our communities.

Someone said this morning that Brexit isn't a British thing, it's an English thing. I think we are headed towards an horrendous, even more uncertain and chaotic times in the UK, or at least for as long as the UK lasts.


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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #16568 on: 13 December, 2019, 10:11:47 am »
I truly hope that this sort of disgusting nationalistic fervour soon dies down.  I just don't know.

Of course it won't. It just won the Tories a landslide — they're not putting this back in its box when it works so well for them.
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #16569 on: 13 December, 2019, 10:14:00 am »
I truly hope that this sort of disgusting nationalistic fervour soon dies down.  I just don't know.

Of course it won't. It just won the Tories a landslide — they're not putting this back in its box when it works so well for them.

Hope you are wrong, Jim, but I think my optimism is misguided.

All we can do is try and be decent, and hope that eventually people wake up and realise that we are marching towards a very dark, dangerous time in History.


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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #16570 on: 13 December, 2019, 10:32:52 am »
You could argue the North of England, who lost many Industries like Shipping and Coal to the first wave of Thatcherite Neo-Liberal Freemarketeers has finally got their revenge upon the globalists. Quite a way to go about it, so we'll have to understand that we'll be leaving the eurozone sooner, rather than later. Nationalism I suspect has been the winner here, both in England and Scotland. Gas-Putin must be rubbing his hands with glee at a weakened E.U. All left-leaning Parties appeared to have recieved a mauling by the electorate, but that's the way it went. Not much to be happy about Brexit looks now unstoppable.
 
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #16571 on: 13 December, 2019, 10:36:58 am »
We gotta have hope, chaps.

What a disaster.  I'm literally sat in work whilst people argue around me.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #16572 on: 13 December, 2019, 10:42:52 am »
Nationalism I suspect has been the winner here, both in England and Scotland.

You keep using "nationalism" like this in relation to the SNP, but their platform is determinedly internationalist, rather than the isolationist nationalism peddled by the likes of Johnson, Farage and Trump.
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #16573 on: 13 December, 2019, 10:56:27 am »
No matter how anyone feels about their nation and the teeming hordes of swarthy letterbox-faced jihadist rape-gangs that threaten to overwhelm the queue in Lidl, it seems genuinely beyond comprehension that someone could look at Boris Johnson and think "yep, that's  the man who'll look out for me".

If - eyes fully open to his endless lies, venal shenanigans and cynical buffoonery - another nation can deliberately grant someone like that the power he craves, I don't know where it's all going to end. Like Trump, what could Johnson possibly do that would unsettle his followers?

I really truly feel for you, UK peeps - and individual stories like IP's break my heart.
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #16574 on: 13 December, 2019, 11:09:16 am »

We've had our disagreements, IP, but your post genuinely brought a tear to my eye.

I feel bad for you all but please don't despair, you are stronger and more powerful than you know. I don't want to sound trite or condescending (too late?), but I put my faith in individuals - like you wonderful, amazing, humane people - and not in tribes, factions or institutions.

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